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DJ Envy
Wake that ass up early in the morning.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
The Breakfast Club.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Jess. Hilarious Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Lauren laros is here as well. We got a special guest in the building. We have Dr. Cheyenne Bryant.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
Welcome, Breakfast Club Man.
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Jess Hilarious
You are one of the people in the mental health space who are. Who's you who's really using social media. Right, Right. Like, you know, because you've used it to, you know, elevate your platform and just elevate the conversation around mental health. So I applaud you on that.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
Yeah, thank you. I appreciate that. Yeah. I always say I didn't get into this field to become a celebrity, but God has his own plans, right? So I literally, in my master's and my doctorate program, I remember my professor saying, everyone who's going to get licensed, raise your hand. I didn't raise my hand. Everybody else did. And he's like, doc, you go, you know, was shying at that time. You're going through all this and not get licensed. I'm like, no, because I'm gonna be on a platform where I'm able to change lives. Didn't think that it ended up being a platform where to this magnitude 1 and then to the place where literally I didn't want it. The whole celebrity status and lifestyle. And not that I'm saying I don't want it now and I don't like it. It's just this is not where I expected it to go. But again, if God needs to use a celebrity ness and I said it at your mental health a mental wealth expo, you know, whether the celebrity status brings me the naysayers or the sayers, whatever it brings, as long as they can get a tip or two that gives them a better quality of life and helps them become better mentally, then run the play. I'm cool with it. It is what it is.
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Angela Yee
How does that impact, though? Like, you do work in mental health, but there's a lot of, like, the naysayers are so loud. How does that impact you mental health wise? And like, what's your work through? Cause it's there. Especially with that. When the cam interview came out, they were. People were upset about it. Some people agree. But, you know, how do you as a person in that space deal with all of that pushback?
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
This the thing, sis. I grew up a little girl in the inner city, in the hood. I grew up to two teenage parents. My mom was addicted to the drug that my father sold. I'm a product of a street dude, a straight gangster who turned into being a good family man. My mom is now sober, for the record. And so I say all that to say that when you grow up in a certain type of adversity, loud noise, that's against the grain of what you're doing.
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DJ Envy
It don't even.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
It's not loud noise, you know, it's a norm. And that's why, you know, the Bible says it's good for me that I was afflicted. Because when you have those afflictions, they are preparing you for a time like this, that you have to stand in a leadership role. And leadership comes with pressure. It comes with commitment. It comes with character. And so when you have naysayers who are applying pressure, then that's when you show if you a pipe or if you're a diamond. But I already knew from the trenches that I was a diamond. So I wasn't worried about coming into this space with somebody having a problem with what I'm doing. And I'm in my intent, I'm in my purpose, and I'm vertical in who I am. It don't matter to me because I'm running my own place. So I'm not sitting up there as a quarterback being Brady waiting for a moss. I'm good.
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Angela Yee
I ain't heavy, too.
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Jess Hilarious
I'm going to make all my receivers better. Put somebody out there, we go.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
Put someone out there. That's just what it is, you know, so when you're vertical in who you are, you're not really worried about what is going to show up to catch the catch. You know, your job is to throw and then the receiver job is to do what to catch. And so the quarterback don't throw and go, jess, catch. You better do it, Jess. Hands up. The quarterback throws and he like, all right, I know I did it. 10 up and slant over and that's it. And it's a celebration if you're in there. If not, we run the playback Again, yeah, until we do it. And that's just what. That's what life's about.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Now, you talked about your calling. So when it came. When it comes to your calling, what is your calling? What do you specialize in? Is it relationships? Is it dealing with people's problems? Is it just listening? What is your specialty? When it comes to it, what's your calling?
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
I love that. So I started off as a marriage and marriage family child therapist. And I tell God, I said, listen, I'm a little girl from the hood. You know what I come from. Don't put me in the hood and don't put me with. With, you know, court order, DCF kids. Not that I had a problem with him. I didn't want to be triggered dealing with him, and I didn't want to have to deal with what I came from. I wasn't in the system, but I came from that type of adversity. And the first place God put me was off of Hardell and Slauson. I don't know if y'all familiar with la, but a block away from Slosson, Swap meet in the hood. And every one of my. My clients were court ordered. Dcfs, Department of Family and Child Services. We have moms in there who were pregnant, still, still hitting the pipe, asking me, can I sign off on the documents so they can get the kids back? Because I was predicated on their reunification with their kids. And so started off as doing that. When I got my doctorate, I transitioned to a psychology expert life coach so that my hands wouldn't be tied behind my back. Because when I was a therapist working for a nonprofit under a license, the protocol just with the BBS law, and you're very familiar with, like, mental health and therapy, there's so many things that you cannot do based on ethics and law that in my opinion, it negates and it really takes away from the real therapeutic experience. So, for example, I had a young lady come in and she had experienced sexual abuse. Her mother was allowing men to pay her to have sex with her daughter. At 13, from age all the way from age 8 to 16, the last time the guy came in, he put her on the burners and the stove burners and had his way with her. For that young lady, thank God, that was the last straw for her. So she ends up in my office, and we're talking and she's telling me her story, and I'm starting to become triggered because it's triggering my sexual abuse pass. And so, long story short, after one of our Sessions. I get up and she's in tears, and she's telling her story, and I go to hug her, and she's like, no, no, no, you know, don't touch me. Because that's not something that she's in a place to handle at that time. No problem. Eight months go by. She's like, she has to then be transferred out. She's like, all right. You know, I wasn't Dr. Brian then. I was Cheyenne. She's like, Ms. Cheyenne, thank you for everything. I'm like, okay. And she goes, oh, by the way, I'm ready for that hug. Everything in me. Everything in me. DJ envy was just like. Everything was just like, yeah. And so not only did I hug her, but I think I broke the BBS laws because I hugged that poor baby. I kissed all over her. But you're not supposed to do that.
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Jess Hilarious
So you're still human.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
You're not supposed, but you're still human. And so my specialty then was marriage, family and child therapy. So that is my foundation. So now that I am a psychology expert, life coach, I don't. I can't get rid of that because I. That's my foundation. I do psychodynamic cbt, but I couple it, which is my hybrid approach with coaching. So it's therapy and coaching, which is hybrid. And I say this without humility. That's why I'm so effective, because therapy is. Tell me more. Let me hear about your trauma, your daddy issues, your mom issues. Why are you who you are? And then once you're finished dealing with that and you process that, okay, DJ envy, where the hell you going from there?
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Charlamagne Tha God
I do have one other question. When it comes to the therapy aspect, I'm sure the world has been watching the Mendez brothers, right? And I had a question. Right? So the Mendez brothers, if you don't know, they confessed their crime to the therapist. And they believed that the therapist could not tell police officers because it was, I guess, patient client privilege. But they did. So does that mean anything that I tell a therapist or that anybody tells a therapist can and can possibly be used against them in the court of law, 100%.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
So a therapist is only under confidential oath unless you are threatened to kill yourself and someone else. And it can't just be a threat. It has to be. You actually have, like, an action plan to do so, right? You can't just come to me and say, hey, Doc, look, you know, I want to kill myself. I will help you process through that and hopefully talk you off the ledge. But if you Say, I got a plan. At 9pm I'm leaving the house. I'm gonna do X, Y, and Z to my wife. Then I have a duty to report. If I'm subpoenaed to court, I have to speak on that.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Now, if I did a crime and I'm talking to you about the crime because it's eating me up, you're not supposed to tell law enforcement if I already killed somebody, I already did the crime already.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
No.
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Jess Hilarious
Even if it's a murder.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
Only unless that therapist is subpoenaed.
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Jess Hilarious
Oh, gotcha.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
Oh.
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Charlamagne Tha God
So the fact that he was subpoenaed, that's it?
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
When it comes to subpoena in the court and the justice system, their law overseeds everything. It just does. When it comes to your confidentiality as client privilege, there's nothing that I can say outside even.
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Jess Hilarious
Can you reach out to the court and say, subpoena me, I need to be subpoenaed.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
I personally would never do that just because I believe in following the oath of. And maybe I just love and respect my clients too much, but if you came to me and said something, I'm just not. And I know this is smaller than murder, but I've had married couples who come separately and together, and the husband is just lighting it up in his individual sessions like, I'm cheating. I'm intimate with this person and that person. It's family members. It's this. And I'm having to just make sure I process my countertransference because I'm sitting there like, damn. And I have her in one hour.
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Charlamagne Tha God
And you can't say nothing.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
I have her in one. In one hour.
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Jess Hilarious
God damn.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
Now, of course, if it was like my girlfriend, I'd be like, bitch.
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Jess Hilarious
Still violating the client.
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Angela Yee
But you would take your girlfriends though, right? Cause it's an adult.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
My best friend couldn't be. That's a conflict. She could never come to me as a psychology expert, any of that. But then I'd be, you know, ripping into him.
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Jess Hilarious
Talk to me from the human perspective. Cause you're still a real nigga at the end of the day.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
I am.
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Jess Hilarious
So when you hear stuff like that, when you hear the guy come in one hour, he doing X, Y, and Z, then the woman come in the next hour. What is going through your mind about the dude?
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
See, Charlamagne, my clients are watching this interview. My client's gonna be like, doc, that's what you. But you know, in my mind, honestly, what I try to do, and some of my clients have followed this guidance I have one client now. He's married, and the wife is attempting to divorce him, and she's divorcing him because he cheated. But she doesn't have any hard facts on him. So I've actually been able to process with him whether you're going to be with this woman or not, if you want to be with her or you want to be able to leave and do better at. At some point, you got to be able to be real with yourself and real with her, and you got to be transparent. When do you plan on doing that? So he just. Literally this week or last week? Because this week he told me, doc, I sat with her and I told her that it's been, you know, a few times that I did cheat. And I said, how does she respond? He said. She said, now we can have a conversation because now you keeping it real. And when I had her in session, I said, listen, Triggered. Triggered, right?
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Jess Hilarious
Yeah.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
But I told her, I said, look, you have two options. I said, either, you know, I can. I can. If you're willing to learn to love a dog, we can start that process because, you know, or we could start the process of you leaving and starting over. And she goes, what do you mean by a dog? She said, but he didn't. We've been together for 10 years. He's never cheated. The first time. I said, no, no, baby. I said, he been quiet for 10 years. He decided to bark on your number 10.
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Jess Hilarious
Jesus Christ.
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Angela Yee
So you don't think. So you don't think that he could change in that marriage and not cheat anymore?
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
First of all, nobody changes, including me. We shift, and that changes our life. And when I say we shift, we shift out of the things and behaviors that don't serve us after we learn they're not working.
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Angela Yee
Gotcha.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
And then we have to learn to manage those. So I am very firecrackery. When I was younger, I was very temperamental. I was very, you know, who the fuck you talking to real quick? I just. Because of my trauma, because of things, I just had a very protective. By all means necessary. I'm the oldest of seven, so I was, you know, I light this place up. Is that still in me after all of my healing? Hell, yeah. Do I manage it? Absolutely. Managing it just means that I'm high function. I'm able to regulate my emotions. Right? Identify my emotions. Don't get into my feelings, because emotions are healthy. Feelings cause problems, and I can just say, okay. I identify that. I'm angry, I'm frustrated. So now let me choose My response before I was low functioning. Once I felt it, I was triggered and everybody here was going to know and it was going to be a problem. So does that still come up? Yeah, but do I have self talk that says we not doing that?
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Charlamagne Tha God
So you don't think people can change, you just feel like they change?
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
We manage ourself well. We manage ourself well. So a man who's a womanizer, he is always a womanizer. It's just how well can he discipline or manage his womanizing appetite, his womanizing actions, his womanizing desires? Can he manage his environment? Can he be in a room full of women and not womanize, and not cheat and not step out and not have infidelity issues? We like what we like. We are who we are.
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Charlamagne Tha God
So you would never date a man that cheated before because you feel like he will always be a cheater? Is that what you're saying?
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
I think that's also circumstantial. So I do believe that different relationships bring out different things in us. I was also an extreme alpha. In my first engagement, I had two engagements called off, two weddings. My first relationship that I was engaged to, I, I was extreme alpha. So even if he tried to be alpha, I left no space. It was like, hell no, by all means necessary. Because I said so. You can walk. Like, I'm chasing my career, I know my value. I'm not fatherless. I got a daddy, he spoils me good day.
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DJ Envy
So even in that, do you feel like that he wasn't man enough for you or like, what was that? Do you think that's your fault? Do you look back and be like, ugh, I was trying to be the man, not trying to be the man, but I actually, I gave him. Because you just said you gave no room for him to do it. So do you regret that part of it?
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
I think that's a duality. I think he chose a woman who was alpha because it fed something in him that was beta. Yeah, I chose a man who was beta because my alpha needed to be inflamed. But my second engagement, he was alpha. That's why I say circumstantial. But not only was he alpha, I was ready. I had these submissive feels in me already. So by the time we got in a relationship, I was a hybrid. By then I was alpha, submissive. So I was cooking, he was daddy, I was soft, I was in my feminine. And the, the blessing of that is I got to experience both. And I learned that I fell more in love with myself. In my softness than he probably did.
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DJ Envy
Yeah.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
Like, I was doing shit where I'm like, ooh, girl. I was turned on by me.
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DJ Envy
I'm like, ooh, sis, that's me. That's me right now.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
Even in the bedroom, things that I was like, no, I'm not. When I was in my Alpha. Absolutely not. I was like, can we do that thing again? That thing? I don't want to look at y'all. Y'all marrying. Can we do that thing again? Like that thing? I said I want to do that. Submit.
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Jess Hilarious
Yeah, guys do that too.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
But it also. But right. But it also plays a role in. But in the position.
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Charlamagne Tha God
What you want to say.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
What you doing? What's that thing?
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Jess Hilarious
Nah, I'm not going front. When you said that, I kept thinking of this stuff.
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Angela Yee
Story.
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Jess Hilarious
It was Gilly telling me the story about. Never mind Gilly. The king was telling me a story about something that was in Kim Porter book. And how did he told Kim Porter do that thing again? And it was getting pegged.
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DJ Envy
I just knew it was something gay.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
Something.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Something in the butt. So you don't feel men can't answer.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
In the butt question.
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Charlamagne Tha God
You don't think men can change, though, like, you know, maturity? Because, you know, a lot of times.
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Jess Hilarious
Yeah, I'm stuck on that, too.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Because a lot of times you still got butt.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
What?
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Angela Yee
She's not seeing a child.
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Charlamagne Tha God
No, I was saying because you know things. Sometimes you're immature and you don't know. Right. And you. And I think you can grow out of things where you are mature, not just being a womanizer or being insecure. Some of those things you grow out of because you learn differently. And some of the things that you follow is because of society teaches you other than what you should be doing, if you understand what I'm saying.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
So when I was a child, I thought as a child. Now that I'm a man. I think as a man. Right. That's what the Bible says. So do I think that we can mature out of things? Yes. But maturity takes work. It takes awareness and sense of self. So how many of us are really getting that if we're in the same environments, the same relationships are. We're dating different people with the same spirit. So the same spirit's gonna activate the same things in you. You want different, There has to be a different circumstance, a different activation. I went from a beta to an Alpha, and I was receptive to being with an Alpha. So that's why I was able to be activated in my feminine. I wouldn't choose a beta. Now, I'd want an alpha man, but I also hold space for an alpha man. You couldn't be with a woman who is high functioning and be a womanizer. She ain't holding space for you. You can prey on a low functioning woman because she holds space too much space for a low functioning man who wants to prey on her. But if you were to say, you know what, I, I want to shift up my ways, you would also have to shift and choose a woman who won't tolerate that because she will hold you accountable when you're in a space that don't work for her.
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Charlamagne Tha God
That's right.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
Does that make sense? So you can't be in the same.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Environment, but let's say a man is insecure and he's insecure when he's 16, 17, 18. Right. Because he doesn't know the world. Or a man follows the likeness of, for instance, hip hop.
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Jess Hilarious
Right.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Cause hip hop influences so much of us and a lot of us were grown from it. You know, whether it was what we did, what we spoke about, carrying guns, selling drugs, being a womanizer, whatever that may be.
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Jess Hilarious
Men can change.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Men can change.
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Jess Hilarious
I feel like what you're saying is true, but I feel like I would say shifts lead to action.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
That's what I'm saying.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Absolutely.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
So. Right. So I'm not saying, listen, we're not. Jesus, we're not turning water to wine. I've said that on the Cam Newton episode and I stand by that. So you're not going to change and you're not going to switch up and tomorrow be a six, five chocolate man.
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Charlamagne Tha God
You don't know what I identify as.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
Listen, I'm self projected because that's what I'm attracted to, but I'm back. But can you shift? Shifts will change you, your world. You don't change, you shift. So what happens is that insecure boy grows up to be a man who shifts things in him and his environment changes. And so does he feel his insecurity and flame way less? Absolutely. But will there be moments where your little boy arises in you because you're triggered? That's life. And when that happens, if it's once a year or once every five years, you have to have the effective tools to manage that little boy or he will sabotage or he will go cheat. And that's how you say he, he ain't cheated in 10 years. But he barked on your number 10.
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Jess Hilarious
I agree with that wholeheartedly. The way it was worded the first time I was like I think men can change. But I get what you said.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. Yeah. People can shift and that creates a change, but we don't wake up and we're like, we're totally different.
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DJ Envy
So the interview with Cam, and also I saw that you sat down with Nick. How did that. How did the firecracker in you be like, I need to sit down with them? How did you get them in the room? How did you do those two interviews? Did they reach out to you or did you reach out to them?
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
So Nick reached out to me.
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DJ Envy
Okay.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
And said, doc, what's up? Like, I want to work through some things, but I want to work through it on camera. And I said, okay, no problem, but I'm going to penetrate. So we're not doing this, right?
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DJ Envy
Penetrate.
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Angela Yee
The things that trigger you is crazy.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
So when you trigger him.
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Charlamagne Tha God
So he liked penetration.
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Jess Hilarious
Nick, do that little thing you do.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
Do that little thing you do. Because Nick always goes, doc, do you have to use that word? I'm like, yeah, I am. I'm penetrating you at the space that obviously is broken.
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DJ Envy
Yeah.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
And that's dysfunctional and toxic. You need to grow up too. See, men just don't change.
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DJ Envy
No, no.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
Like you.
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Angela Yee
To your point, 12 year old girl.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
Right now, a little boy is definitely present. Definitely.
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DJ Envy
So when he says, all right, I need to work through some things, you're like, okay, on camera. Does that then in your mind say, is this for real?
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
For real.
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DJ Envy
Or do you want to appeal to a certain market, you know, to a certain audience?
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
I love that.
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DJ Envy
You know what I'm saying? Because we're in the times now where everything has to be recorded or it didn't happen, or that's just how people look or how people feel. But does that make it a little phony to you?
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
So.
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DJ Envy
Cause I couldn't find another way other than phony.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
But great observation. I didn't look at it like that because I look at it like I have a job to do and a purpose to serve. So Whether we have one camera or 10, you gonna get this work.
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DJ Envy
Yeah.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
And so they may have done it, and I'm not saying they did. They may have done it from an entertainment perspective, but as we see, more than entertainment came out of it, because your intention will always be what ends up being the end result for you. And so my intent was to use Nick's situation and shift a whole culture of black men saying what can. And it happened. There were a lot of naysayers, but a lot of black men were actually in there Creating the viruness and saying, listen, Doc is right. We need to create more husbands and less baby daddies. Black men were like, I'm 26, I got three kids by three different women. And she's right. This ain't it, man. Yeah, we got to do different. That was my intent, and my intent is what manifested so. And Nick as well. Cam was resistant, but Cam had to answer a lot of questions in his household. Cam had a lot of stuff. He had a lot of different conversations he had to have with that woman, whether she wants to come out on social media and wear the mask she's been wearing. That mask is off at home.
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DJ Envy
Yeah.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
Cam had to answer questions that created a lot of conflict. Conflict is needed for resolve and for shift and change. And so, yeah, entertainment or not, I wanted to make sure that what happened happened, that the conversation is now being had everywhere, that it is time for our community to do things differently. And if you have already created broken houses and homes, you're not doomed. But you need to stop. It's a time to stop. Like we're not here to. To create broken houses. And now yourself, you're projecting your daddy issues and mommy issues as a man onto an entire generation that has to now grow up to figure out what the hell is the root of their issue and how do they not sabotage and how do they do this thing differently?
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Jess Hilarious
Yeah. I saw Cam say that it affected his relationship with his first two baby moms and his current situation. So do you feel any remorse for that?
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
No. Cause I'm here to interrupt that pattern. No, like the shit should have been interrupted a long time ago.
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DJ Envy
A long time ago. Yeah.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
You know, Cam and you come from and not that this breeds, you know, good decision making people, but Cam comes from. He's a pastor's child. He comes from two parents that are still married and they're still very. They're pastors. Very much involved with the church. That goes to show you, like the Bible said, it was good for me that I was afflicted. Because you got people who come from brokenness. That's why I said these kids are not doomed who make different decisions. Because it's not about where it's. A lot of times it's not where you go and they get you where you going. It's where you trying to get the hell away from.
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DJ Envy
Yeah.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
And a lot of times parents. Yeah. Like I was telling Ray J, this Ray J's my client as well.
- [23:02]
DJ Envy
Jesus.
- [23:03]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
And leave my boy alone.
- [23:05]
DJ Envy
Leave Ray.
- [23:06]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
I was telling Ray, I said, Ray I love your parents and. But they showed you everything to do, right? They didn't show you what not to do. And see, for me, I had a circumstance and environment that showed me everything not to do, right? So sometimes knowing what not to do saves you from doing the wrong shit. It's not about having a perfect household. It's about having a blended, balanced household that says, listen, this is what you can do. It'll get you. This is what you. You shouldn't do. And when you come from a lot of pastor kids, and these folks are coming from these really perfect households or perfect marriages that have a lot of infidelity, a lot of brokenness in them, these folks, these kids learn how to mask their life as well. And they learn how to overcompensate for what they're missing in broken houses, in womanizing or man nizing ways. And that becomes an issue, and then they just becomes a dysfunctional pattern where they keep creating this. They get comfortable in dysfunction and say, I'm thriving here. No, you're not. You've learned to survive, and you're teaching everybody else who you are, you know, creating or procreating how to survive.
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DJ Envy
I was just gonna ask, how do you deal with your other clients if you have Ray J. Yeah.
- [24:20]
Jess Hilarious
Who do you talk to after you talk to Ray J?
- [24:22]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
Do you have a therapist?
- [24:23]
Jess Hilarious
I hope you have.
- [24:23]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
I do. Oh, yeah, I definitely. I have that. I have wise counsel. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I have a nice group, a nice, really healthy ecosystem of people who are, you know, counselors and coaches and who are not. And I use them.
- [24:36]
Angela Yee
Does this, like, so, like, with the cam situation is in there, like a follow up conversation with him, like, he wants to work through more stuff now off camera. Cause, like, it, I'm sure triggered a lot for him as well, too, when those additional conversations had to happen.
- [24:47]
Charlamagne Tha God
Or did he block your number or, like, is he.
- [24:48]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
You know what I mean?
- [24:49]
Angela Yee
Like, what happens after that? We see it in real. We see it on the Internet, and it goes crazy.
- [24:53]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
Yeah.
- [24:53]
Angela Yee
The baby, mom's a girlfriend. All the fallout. There's been recent fallout too, with him talking about her. Jazz not being the only woman that he slept with in a relationship. And so there's things coming out now. Does he hit you up and say, hey, I want to do some more work, I want to have a conversation? Or he's like, nah, he's.
- [25:09]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
He hasn't hit me up to say yes, but he's definitely not, like, not okay, but who I would love to have a conversation with whether it can, whether it's on camera or not, just to more support her in whatever she's doing right now or feeling or going through. Is Jazz.
- [25:24]
DJ Envy
Yeah.
- [25:25]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
I would love to have a conversation with Jazz, even if it's a private session. I think that she needs tools on how to be in this relationship if she's going to stay. And if she chooses to leave, she needs tools on how to. Also, people pivot that. And it's not about having a conversation with her or having a session with her to get her to change her mind. It's about getting her to feel supported and showing compassion and trying to figure out where she wants to navigate from here.
- [25:47]
DJ Envy
And see, that's the thing, because I don't know if you saw months ago, or this may have been before she was pregnant. I saw this. She's happy with or, you know, with everything that's going on. You know how she's okay with that. So if she understands and she is willing and she's like, okay, I'm all in. I'm abiding by every rule that you have, then what the hell you gonna talk to her about? You know what I'm saying? Like, how can. Cause even as a woman watching that.
- [26:16]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
Right.
- [26:17]
DJ Envy
I didn't know who she was with yet until it came out. And then I was like, oh, damn.
- [26:21]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
Oh, right.
- [26:21]
DJ Envy
So that's how you feel about him. And that's my man's, and that's my girl. But I'm just like, damn, how strong. The strongest back that I've ever. I give my head off to her for dealing with that whole dynamic. But what can you say to her that'll change how happy she is for this?
- [26:45]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
I think it's helping her come to herself. And I think that Jazz got herself into something. That one she didn't understand that she was getting herself into. And I think she would love to backpedal if she could. But where do you go from here? You have a child. A lot of women, especially black women, stay because they don't want to be a product of a broken house.
- [27:07]
DJ Envy
Yeah.
- [27:08]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
And they don't want to be a single mom who wants to be a statistic who wants to be that. Right. And so for her, I understand why she would want to stay to make it work, but I also would understand why she wants to leave to do it. Right. And it's not because he has kids. It's because this man is not honoring you.
- [27:27]
DJ Envy
Yeah.
- [27:28]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
He's disrespecting you. And he's not only doing it privately. He's doing it publicly. He's not even allowing it to be pillow talk, you know, so it's like. And that's what I mean by the epitome of a high valued man in the most low functioning functionality you can have. Like, you have no respect at all for this woman who you not only have a child with, but you are in a relationship with. You're waiting for God to give you more kids. You have a woman at home. You're sleeping with other women publicly on your platform for this woman to feel how all you're doing is self projecting your brokenness and your pain on this woman. In all of these eight kids and these three other women, you are procreating broken houses. And let me go further, he also has a broken home with her. Because a broken house and a broken home are two different things.
- [28:15]
Jess Hilarious
Explain.
- [28:16]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
So you have both. A broken house is just a single family home. It could be one mama, one daddy, or for people who have partners, it could be one partner in the house. That means just there's one person. A broken home is. You got a two party household. The home is so impaired it can't even function at a level of healthiness. Cam has both and he knows that. And he's trying to figure out how he front, back, side pedals. But this is the deal, you know, And I said this to him jokingly, and I wasn't pun intended, but it was like I told him. I said, I said, cam, before we did anything. I said, cam, you about to throw pics this entire interview just like you did when you was playing. I said, you took him to a Super bowl but you couldn't get the ring. And he just looked and he said, no, but to backtrack real quick. Cam reached out to me.
- [29:00]
Jess Hilarious
I wouldn't pay you if you told me that before the interview.
- [29:02]
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, that's brutal.
- [29:05]
Jess Hilarious
Like, I'm leaving. I'm like, why would you?
- [29:08]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
But did I catch the pics or not?
- [29:10]
DJ Envy
From what I saw, yeah, caught the pics, right.
- [29:13]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
And so, but my point is, Cam reached out to me because ego, he seen me in Nick Cannon's interview and he said Nick was too soft. Do my interview, it's not going to be that same smoke. And so I said, sign me up when I'll fly out tomorrow. He said, oh, okay. Like that. I said, 100%, I'm ready. And so when it happened, I think Cam's edge was to throw me off and to see if he can challenge you. Challenge me and more dominated the conversation. My intent was to bring healing and awareness. And he got that.
- [29:45]
Charlamagne Tha God
Do you ever tell women to leave? When you're dealing, when you're talking to women or men, do you ever tell them to leave? Because I know a lot of times therapists won't tell somebody to leave. And if somebody is still in a relationship, whether it's domestic violence, whether it's a womanize or whether it's something that's negative, do you feel like if a woman stays, she's weak?
- [30:03]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
I don't think she's weak. I think she has a lot of underlining issues that need to be processed. And I think she doesn't have awareness of what those are and what that relationship is feeding are the underlining issues. And she's staying because she needs those to be fed. And if she leaves, what's fed, if she doesn't have any awareness of her healthiness. See, what we know is what feeds us. We all set up feeding stations and we go and feed on things that we have awareness of, which is a lot of times our trauma or dysfunction or our survival mechanism. And so I never tell them to leave, but I do help them either. Say this is what the work is going to take to stay and this is what it looks like for you to leave. What do you want to do?
- [30:47]
Charlamagne Tha God
So you don't feel like if a man stays, a woman stays, they are weak, Whether it's whatever their relationship, you don't feel that way. You feel like people can get through certain things, whether it's domestic violence, whether it's abuse, whether it's cheating, whether it's whatever it may be.
- [31:03]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
I think that people can get through it if they're willing to reinvent. So marriage isn't something that always has to be dissolved. Sometimes it can be recreated and reinvented if two people are open to that. And I say that because, you know, I'm not married yet. I look forward to being married and being a mother, but I'm not divorcing my husband. And so it very well could be where, you know, shoot the social media, hopefully not. Goes off on Doc one day and says, hey, what you was preaching, what's up? What you doing now? Hopefully not, but I'm saying that I'm not leaving my husband.
- [31:33]
DJ Envy
That's right.
- [31:34]
Charlamagne Tha God
What do you say to people that say, how do you give advice on marriages or marriage couples when you're not married? What do you say to those people?
- [31:42]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
I love that I say that. I don't want to hear, you've been together 15 years with miserable 13. I'd rather take advice from a single woman or man who's happy, thriving, successful, meaning in their joy, not just in their monetary value, than someone who is miserable in their marriage with a side dude and a side chick. And you want to give me the advice that you give yourself that you use in your failed marriage.
- [32:01]
DJ Envy
I'll pass.
- [32:02]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
I'll pass. Past. And what happens is married people like to shun on single folks. The Bible also says single people are happy. People look that up. It says, marriage take discipline. No, it says marriage take discipline.
- [32:17]
Charlamagne Tha God
And because a lot of times they say that you reach out to older couples that's been married longer because they'll tell you how to deal with the marriage. Then people, you know, like some people say, don't hang out with your single friends. You talk to married couples that's been in that situation long.
- [32:31]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
And you know why that's true? Because folks have been married 10, 15, 20 years. They've been through the trenches.
- [32:35]
Jess Hilarious
Yeah.
- [32:36]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
So they're not going to teach you how to be happy. We got that single sis. We got that. I've had that all my life. They're going to teach you how to get through the. The times when you ain't happy. Y'all married. You know that. Let's not play this game. You married. You know that. You got. Of course, Mar. I think marriage is beautiful. It's popping. It's. It's. It's where everybody wants to land. Why would you not want a partnership and a companion your go to. But that shit comes with work. The Bible says marriage is for disciplined people. Discipline. I'm single. I don't have to be disciplined. Even though I am. I don't have to be in that space.
- [33:07]
Charlamagne Tha God
You think people get married too early?
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
I think people choose the wrong people. I think people choose their fairytale ideology. They're not choosing the person. See, people are choosing marriage and not a husband. They're choosing marriage and not a wife. And so when you're choosing marriage, you get the title. You get the looks of it, but you're not getting a person. So you're a beautiful house who's homeless.
- [33:28]
Jess Hilarious
They like the idea of dying.
- [33:30]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
The idea. And those are people who are fatherless, sometimes motherless, who just need something to be a part of. I just need this companionship. I want the title. I don't feel valued. I don't feel validated. So because we're married, I got somebody who's checking for me. I got somebody who can get me through the day. But you got to be able to check even in marriage. I was engaged for 10 years, you know, because I kept calling it off, calling it off. And he was like, you keep getting these degrees, you keep saying, wait for the next degree. We're getting married. And by the time I went and got my doctor, he's like, baby, you done got four degrees. Degrees.
- [33:59]
Charlamagne Tha God
All right.
- [33:59]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
Yeah, engaged, you know, 10 years. I kept putting it off because I knew that that wasn't my person.
- [34:06]
Jess Hilarious
Yeah, that's the point.
- [34:07]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
And I. And I end up leave. I end up leaving him, you know, unfortunate for him.
- [34:12]
Jess Hilarious
For 10 years.
- [34:13]
Charlamagne Tha God
10 years.
- [34:14]
DJ Envy
And she said he was a great guy.
- [34:15]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
Great guy. He was a great guy. He just wasn't my guy. Right. And so for 10 years, he thought.
- [34:19]
Charlamagne Tha God
He was the guy.
- [34:20]
Jess Hilarious
You strung him along for 10 years. Why you ain't let him go be great with somebody else that would appreciate him and love him?
- [34:24]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
About to jump on me.
- [34:25]
DJ Envy
She ain't want to hurt his feelings.
- [34:28]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
I love that question. I love the question. So I'm not saying for 10 years, I knew he wasn't the one. When we got about year number five or six and I seen that his work ethic and his ability to provide at the level that I wanted our family to. To be at, I knew that he wasn't mine. My guy. And when I say provide, I'm not talking about like he was making six figures. And I was like, now make millions. I'm saying his thing was, baby, I'm cool with me. You a dog in, in a one bedroom apartment and just no work ethic at all. So for the first six years, I thought, well, I'm out here getting it. I have a legal company, you know, I own Property. I'm only 22, I'm getting all these college degrees. How can he not be inspired by me? See, that's that age appropriate young woman. He got potential. Let me stay. That's why people should take their time. But when I seen you number seven and eight, this guy was the same guy who was, you know, I hate talking. Cause he's such a good guy. I always protect him when I talk about him. But where he was lazy and he had no work ethic. I had a pivot. I had a pivot.
- [35:24]
Charlamagne Tha God
But he didn't have the work ethic that you wanted. Cause he worked. Right, but he just didn't.
- [35:27]
DJ Envy
He was comfortable. He was comfortable.
- [35:29]
Angela Yee
Your ideas were different.
- [35:30]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
Was he a rapper? At some point he just decided to not work at all. He rapped. No, he wasn't a rapper.
- [35:36]
Angela Yee
Oh, Not Jesse. He had a mixtape.
- [35:39]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
He started off in pharmaceutical sales. A very educated young man, went to BYU D1 College, did his thing very much like the boy next door. Mixed kid, you know. And so it was all really good. It came from a really amazing family, parents still married. I think they own like 45 years.
- [35:56]
DJ Envy
You just wanted more.
- [35:57]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
I wanted more. And if he would have said we can have more and grow, I would have rolled with him. But when he said I don't want anymore and I'm cool with this, it goes to your question. Then I had to choose what I was choosing. I was choosing a man. I wasn't choosing marriage. I didn't grow up the little girl that wanted marriage in this white picket fence. I wanted just to be honest, I wanted money and power to change a trajectory of a community. I wanted a platform to be able to shift people so they have a better life, so they can take their pain like I did and find some pieces out of it and make peace from their broken pieces. So I never grew up thinking I just. And I also had a father, I had a daddy who doted on me. I'm a product of a street dude. And if anyone knows a street dude, the way they love their daughters when they're involved, you're God, you're goddess to them. You're a princess. I mean I didn't have man problems like that and so I didn't wasn't looking for a man outside to come validate me. So when I get in relationships till to this day, I'm still choosing the man.
- [36:55]
Jess Hilarious
Did he acquire more in the future?
- [36:57]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
No, he's still in the same place. So I made the right decision.
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- [37:58]
Angela Yee
What was the conversation, that last conversation y'all had when you decided to leave him and how did he react?
- [38:04]
Jess Hilarious
You can have the dog. That's what you said.
- [38:05]
DJ Envy
Oh, my God.
- [38:06]
Jess Hilarious
You don't keep the dog.
- [38:08]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
No, he. He was in tears and I was in tears. We were sitting there crying and he said. He said, I knew it. I was a buffer for you. He said, I was a buffer for you. He said, I just knew it. And he said, you're with me because you're too insecure to be with who you really want to be with. The type of guy, not a particular guy. The type of guy.
- [38:28]
DJ Envy
Was he right?
- [38:29]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
100% right. I said, you're right, you're right. And as years went on, that was some of the best advice that I was able to acquire because I was able to work on myself. And he was right. Because the type of man that I now date with that alpha ness, with that leadership, the space that he needs so he can even be with me, right. Is a different type of space, a different type of woman. So I had a shift. Not change, shifts a lot of things in me that had to do with insecurity because my mom being in her addiction, creating abandonment in me, I had attachment anxiety. And so when you, you know, in order to have a man who's doing well, who's successful and he's. He's in his alpha, the healthy alpha, that man is moving and grooving, he's doing certain things he don't have time for. A woman with no damn Attachment anxiety, meaning when he's making moves to better this household, when he's making moves to better this family, I gotta be able to be solid and vertical in myself and who I am and hold the house down. I can't be insecure when he's traveling or doing things or he's not right up under me. I had to work through that. Attachment anxiety.
- [39:29]
Jess Hilarious
Hold on, I got a couple of questions, right? Like one, I want to know what is your definition of a high value man? That's number one. And then two, what you said about attachment anxiety. Is it okay for the woman to feel insecure if she knows this man ain't really out here doing business? He out here. Really.
- [39:44]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
That's called discernment. Okay, yeah, call him out on that. I mean, transparency. What's up? I'm feeling some type of way. What's going on? What are you doing? I'm feeling this way and I just think two respectful people who are choosing each other and not just the relationship are going to have those conversations. And that's what those older couples who've been married 20, 30 years is teaching you, how you have those conversations. And baby, when your man tell you he out here turning corners, he not really turning bills. How do you stick through that? How do you stay without losing your dignity? How do you still be to submit to this man? Cooking and cleaning and having sex, making love to this man without being disgusted at the fact that he's either stepped out emotionally, physically, or mentally? How do you keep that? How do you keep going?
- [40:25]
Angela Yee
I was gonna act. That was gonna be my first.
- [40:26]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
That's what the older folks say. They don't tell you how to be happy.
- [40:29]
DJ Envy
Envy.
- [40:29]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
They telling you how to roll through and stick through some shit. That's what they teaching you.
- [40:32]
DJ Envy
Well, my grandfather was like, leave that bitch. He gonna tell my grandmother that. Yeah. Cause he. That's how I be like back in the day. And he was still with, you know, my grandmother, but he just, still was just like, man, like, leave that bitch now. Because I would have left this bitch back in the day and I wouldn't have had it.
- [40:52]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
I've been grandpa. Because I've been leaving. But now, now I say I'm in my choosing stage and I'm really looking forward to staying. But it will be my first time utilizing a lot of my new tools. Not new meaning a year ago. But you, you knew. Because I've been single six years of this attachment anxiety, I've had to work through of what that looks like. So there's going to be things in me that are new that inflame and trigger that I'm going to have to have a hell of a man who's mature enough, emotionally intelligent enough to sit through certain conversations with me that are going to be transparent.
- [41:19]
Jess Hilarious
So what is a high value man? Because I heard you reference Cam as a high value man with a low value. I guess just a low vibration, very low functioning. So what is your definition of high value? Because to me, it just sounds like high value to you is like superficial stuff.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
High value just means that you're. Yeah, it's pretty much like you're making a lot of money. You have a lot of tangible things.
- [41:39]
DJ Envy
Your high value, your value is high.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
Your value is high. And your monetary value, your value is high. Meaning, you know, you Got a man who's making $100 million, then he's high valued in women who are superficial, but I'm not knocking y'all sis. Okay, Are very attracted to that. But again, are they choosing the man? Are they choosing the value?
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DJ Envy
The value?
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Jess Hilarious
Well, some people are so poor, all they got is money.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
And so you know what I mean? And, and that goes to where this is going to be a very, very unpopular opinion or very popular, but it's going to cause a lot of controversy. I always say, if you realize the most prettiest beautiful women, many of them men have put a baby in them but ain't made a wife out of them. And I go to the high value men, have put babies in them, but ain't made a wife out of them, because those women are choosing the value in them and those men are choosing the low functionality in her. So that's a match made in heaven for them. Even though the fairy tale ends at some point and everybody goes back to the drawing board and comes into my session and says, because I can't now, these I can't name. I have some very, very A list celebrity women who come in and say, I'm beautiful, I'm successful, I can have any man I want, I'm lonely as hell, and I'm afraid that I'm gonna die alone. Yeah, but you have a child. You've been married to this A list big NBA player, and the relationship is now over. And you feel like you won't be alone because you never learned to choose anything of substance. So you were hollow the whole time. So you're not afraid of being alone physically, you're afraid of being alone emotionally because you've been alone this whole time. So you don't even have a relationship with yourself. So who you really don't want to be with is you.
- [43:19]
Jess Hilarious
So why should we call it alone.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
Is about being with you.
- [43:21]
Jess Hilarious
So why should we call those brothers high value then?
- [43:23]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
Because value, based on how I define it, is just money. Like I'm a high valued woman, right? I have a multimillion dollar home. I come from the hood, I went from the hood to the hills. But I. I've accumulated a lot of value, right? I drive luxury cars, I have a certain lifestyle. But I would be low functioning if I preyed on men that I know I can use. If I prayed on men that I know I can say, eat, sleep and poop me and shut up while I go run amok. Be in your beta. Because I said so. That's low functioning. Of me, high value and high functioning would be. Now I want a man who can stand on, he got, he's vertical. Because every human being is a hybrid. We're all high functioning and low functioning. So there's gonna be moments where I get in my low functioning and if I get in my low functioning and I start to say things that are emasculating to you, I don't want a low functioning man. I want you to say, baby, I don't talk to you like that. And I don't like when you talk to me like that. I'm not gonna leave you, but we gotta work on this because I'm not some nothing ass nigga, you know. And I love you and I respect you. So let's work through this.
- [44:24]
Jess Hilarious
What if you got a high value man, he got all the money. He, he might even be a alpha. But dick little and he trash in bed. So then what?
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Charlamagne Tha God
That's what I mean, I'm just saying.
- [44:34]
Jess Hilarious
Cuz, he can't talk then what? Because you ain't going, you ain't going to let him talk to you in your kind of way.
- [44:39]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
What? Listen, you ain't going to let him.
- [44:43]
Jess Hilarious
Talk to you any old kind of way. That's what I'm saying. He can be the outfit, he can have.
- [44:45]
Angela Yee
All I know, you ain't letting him talk to you any kind of way. That mouth go crazy.
- [44:49]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
Hey yo, if I had to choose between a little pito, okay, in my Spanish speaking language, little pizza, little penis and a family. Hell of a good man. Take. Give me the little dick and a good man. Because remember, I'm choosing the man. I'm not choosing these, these ornaments. And I know and I'm. This is the thing, men don't understand this. A woman just needs a big dick when she don't know how to truly love and connect with you. Once we love you and connect with you, we love. And when we love, we love. Especially black women.
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DJ Envy
When we love, we love.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
We'll figure out how to work with that little thing. You got fingers, a mouth, you got toys like we. When we love you, we love you.
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DJ Envy
Yeah.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
And we figure out how to make it do what it do. You got women who are with men who got little penises and pay no bills because she love him. Now that's not DOC approved, but. That's not DOC approved, but so for me, I don't want, I'm not manifesting, God, the little pito type thing. But I'm saying, you know, if, if it. Yeah, and this is this is probably going to be tmi, but I always joke with my best friend Lola and my assistant. I always say, girl, I'm not the woman who needs a big old penis.
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DJ Envy
Me either, girl, that share.
- [45:59]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
Wait a minute, Jess. But I said, why do God always send me the men Charlamagne? You feel like the.
- [46:06]
DJ Envy
Is this.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
What the.
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Angela Yee
Is that something you ain't never seen go here?
- [46:12]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
I said, like, this familiar.
- [46:16]
DJ Envy
Lauren, we don't know what.
- [46:18]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
You're right.
- [46:19]
DJ Envy
I know what you're right.
- [46:21]
Angela Yee
And I gotta be inclusive.
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Charlamagne Tha God
But I wanna ask you about some Internet rumors that I seen. You know, Corey Holcomb said some things about you about not having your degree and where you started off as. I guess working in a strip club. Is any of that stuff true?
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Jess Hilarious
You said you're not a real doctor.
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Charlamagne Tha God
You said. Yeah. You're not a real doctor.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
No. So I have four degrees. Three are in psychology. One's in Pan African Studies. My doctor degree is in counseling psychology. My master's in marriage and child therapy. All degrees are in psychology. Where this Corey Holcomb thing comes from is. We did. I was on a show 10 years ago when I actually, I think it was before I even had my doctor's degree. And Corey is used to being able to be very disrespectful to women and do his things.
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Charlamagne Tha God
You was on the show with him or was just.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
He was a guest on a show. I was co hosting. He was a guest, and I drilled his ass, to be honest. It's on YouTube. People could, you know, look at it. And I cut into him and I said, you seem like you are inferior to white men, and you seem like you got daddy issues, and you seem like you got mommy issues, and you got kids that don't even talk to you or respect you. They don't like you. It tells a lot about your character. Now, this was 10 years ago, okay? And obviously, he's still in his feminine because he's still holding a grudge over it. You know, this is like, interviews are interviews. Are you saying you do them and you move on to the next? And so was very upset. And I feel like in that space, he was. Y'all could watch it. He was dumbfounded. Like, usually he comes back with the, you know, F, U B or he has something to say. Cory's, you know, he got a mouth. He was really just like, you know, a deer with headlights. He was just like, oh, my God. The interview, the person podcast we was on, everybody else was in there was like, we've never Seen Corey be this quiet. We've never seen anybody be able to respectfully check him in this way. Way. After we were done with the interview, we went to take a big picture on the backsplash and I would walked up toward him. You know, my personality, I'm very playful. I walked up, I'm like, let's take a picture. He want to fill in the picture. Ten years later, I think he looked at it with his failed comedian career because he's been attempting this career for about 45 or so years with his failed comedian career, his failed marriage, and I'm not saying this to be mean. Y'all can just research it. And his failed parenting skills with his kids because none of those people deal with him. Yeah, I think he looked at it like, I get to kill two birds and one stone, which was smart. I get to humiliate her back in some kind of way, which it didn't work and. Or I get to ride on her back because she's going viral. I don't have a career. I do. He doesn't have a career, so he's.
- [48:43]
Jess Hilarious
Got a good comedy career. He does stand up. He just stays in 5150 of the big podcast and he does stand up.
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DJ Envy
Where he at?
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
What?
- [48:51]
DJ Envy
Where he be at?
- [48:52]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
Thank you. We back. She got a good career, but anyways, we back. So the point is, I think that he did and this part I'm not knocking him for. He did what any to me career oriented business person was supposed to do. I see an opportunity, let me take it, Let me create a narrative. But what happened was all it did was bring more attention to damn Dr. Bryant. So all people did was research me more, which is what I wanted them to do. All people did was find out for themselves. She is a real doctor. She has these degrees. She's been doing this for a long time. This woman started off from Teen Mom a family reunion, which we were the biggest show on mtv. She not only was the on camera life coach doctor for that show, she co produced it and developed the show. So what happened was he brought attention to where people were able to go in and do what I want them to do, which was research more of me, get more background on me and say, hey, let me make my own opinion about her. And again, you know, as my really good friend Shaquille O'Neal says, which is one of my, you know, we've become pretty much like best friends now. He's like, doc, he's like, you know, he says this. I hate when he says this, but I love it. He goes, doc, trust front babies don't give attention to the ones who have nothing. He goes, so let the good and bad attention do what it does for you. Let it do what it does.
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DJ Envy
That's right.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
And I'm not a trust fund baby. But what Shaq is saying is when you hear and they hear, all it does is magnify you, right? The small dog has to stay in the small dog park. They're just not allowing the big dog park. The big dogs can go to the small dog park and we dominate either way.
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Jess Hilarious
Would you have a conversation with Corey now? Like, would you go on 5150 or have them on truth Talks or something?
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
I would not. Only because Corey's. And I'm only talking about this on here because when I did Nick and other interviews and other places I've interviewed with who are also, you know, as big as Breakfast Club. Well, who's bigger than Breakfast Club, though? Y'all popping. But I also told them, I said, I'm not gonna address it, period. I don't want to bring any attention to him or give him the fume that he needs because again, Charlamagne, I hear what you're saying, but he has a total failed career. A total failed, total failed career as a comedian. Is he funny? There are some things he says, yes, that are funny. Has he made it to any place past a podcast of a group of men who agree with just a rhetoric that's just a. A very negative, distorted narrative of black people in general, especially women? Kevin Samuels spent only two years doing what Cory does and had a better career than Cory. Corey been doing it for 40, 50 years. He was at improv in LA and can't even get a job there. So that doesn't go to his comedic abilities. That goes to his lack of character. Nobody wanting to work with you. You have gifts and you have professionalism. You gotta have both to make it.
- [51:39]
DJ Envy
Cory is just a broken person, period. And I do feel like, yo, need help. He needs help.
- [51:44]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
Cory needs off camera. If Corey came to me and said, doc, let's do off camera sessions. 100%. 100%. If he wants to do it on camera, because it's just going to be a rhetoric. I'm not doing that to help his career. I will help him as a man, but I'm not here to help him in his career. That's his job. I'm not here to carry a man that ain't mine or float a man that ain't mine, but to help you with your mental health or help you as a person. He's an alcoholic. He drinks a lot. You know, he's overcompensating those areas. Those are places he needs help with. Did you guys see what he looked like on Cam Newton interview? Am I talking about looks meaning attractiveness? Do you see how unwell, hygienically clean he looks?
- [52:23]
Jess Hilarious
God Damn. All right, Dr. Bryant. Lord have mercy.
- [52:25]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
Let me say what. No, this ties into mental health. You know, this.
- [52:28]
Charlamagne Tha God
She's an assassin.
- [52:29]
Jess Hilarious
I mean, the chopper is.
- [52:30]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
But does this not tie into mental health? Right. You run. You run. You ran. Actually, an amazing, organized mental wealth expo. Thank you. I was so honored and privileged to be there. It was amazing. But I want to say thank you that we know that keeping up your hygiene is one of the number one symptoms to depression. The number one way you're able to see that somebody's depressed or in their addiction or overcompensating in addictive behaviors is how they keep themselves up. That's how parents could look at their kids and be like, you're not bathing. Your hygiene is not up to par. What's going on? That man's hygiene was on negative 200. What I'm saying is he needs deeper help than me coming on 5150 to bring him a bigger audience. He can still do 5150, but he needs to be able to 5150 himself and get the help that he needs.
- [53:22]
Charlamagne Tha God
Lord have mercy.
- [53:23]
DJ Envy
That's right.
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Jess Hilarious
Doc was talking. He was talking earlier about growing up in the wrong environment, and you learn what not to do. And I think that is difficult for a lot of parents. Right. Because like I always say, my father raised me out of fear and not love because he didn't want me to make the same mistakes that he made growing up in the same environment. Yeah, right. So what would you say to, you know, parents who are. Who are navigating that, like, who have kids, you know, y'all are in. You're in. They're in the same environment that you grew up in, and you want them to get out of it, but you weren't even able to navigate through it yourself.
- [53:56]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
Yeah. I think that, again, seeking wise counsel. I think that therapy coaching should be a lifestyle. It shouldn't be something that someone does for preventative or intervention measures. And I think that parents need to just be 100 and transparent with their kids. I think they need to say, listen there. This is my first time doing you, raising you, knowing you. I've never. I've never known a 15 year old you. So I don't know what to do here. You know, I mean, let's sit down and dialogue. Can you use some of your critical thinking skills? Do you have resources at your school? Help me help you. Let's do this. I think the transparency of it is what allows kids to be vertical in who they are. I think that handing them everything, problem solving for them and doing everything for them, especially men, it handicaps y'all. So when you have to be the head, you now have a mother who taught you how to be the nick. And then you want to be mad at a woman who comes in and she has to be in her alpha because who the hell going to be the head to this thing? So I think it's about transparency. I think parents got to stop having this mommy daddy guilt and stop feeling like they have to be this perfect parent. I think your kids seeing your vulnerability and your imperfections, will actually aid them in ways more than them seeing your perfection.
- [55:07]
Charlamagne Tha God
You think kids are too soft?
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
I think parents are too soft and kids are too soft these days. Yeah. The Bible says an undisciplined child is an unloved child. I think kids are feeling unloved because they're not being disciplined.
- [55:20]
Charlamagne Tha God
What is too soft for you now? And the reason I ask is like Charlamagne said, you know, there were certain things. I mean, my kids can't do it anyway, but there were certain things that you can do and you couldn't do.
- [55:30]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
Right.
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Charlamagne Tha God
And I run the household the same way. Right. But if you look at these kids now, a lot of them are a lot softer, a lot weaker, cry faster. You hear depression, you hear a lot of triggering words that I don't even think that they know what they're saying. They just see it because they see it on TV or they heard somebody say it online. But also people would say that the reason that these kids are like that, because parents can't parent anymore. Because if they yell at their child, if they pop a child, or if they do anything that their parents did to them except abuse, they will be told on to the school and CPS will be at the door.
- [56:06]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
So listen, my grandmother whooped my ass and I called the police while I was down nine. She put one on one and told them when they got there, I whooped her ass. If you take me to jail, I'm gonna come home and I'm gonna beat her ass again. So whatever you gonna do, let's do it. And I would never take away her discipline. That's how I know she loves. You know how? First of all, I'm not even a mama. I'm the oldest of seven. I got about nine nieces and nephews. Do you know how much energy it takes? Well, y'all have kids to discipline a child, to watch them, to see when they're doing right or wrong. Oh, I know the love part is the time it takes to even watch, to see what I'm doing, to discipline me. So a lot of parents. To me, this gentle parenting is just called lazy parenting. That means I'm not in the mood to parent. I got things I'm trying to do. I'm trying to figure my life out, or I'm a single parent. I'm trying to date, or I'm trying to get a sense of self. So I don't even have time or energy to deal with disciplining you. I think that's more of what it's about. And no, it does not work. These kids have no guidance. They're a very lost generation. I mean, I'm gonna go there. You look at the campaign this year. You know, all due respect to sis, Kamala, she threw a concert. And I like Megan, I like. I love Glorilla. She threw a concert with Meg and Glorilla, thinking that that was going to move and influence our community to vote for her. You think that we're that low functioning that you cannot talk politics to us and legislation to us for us to choose you based on leadership, that we're gonna choose you based on who's dropping it like it's hot or who's bringing in a concert?
- [57:45]
Jess Hilarious
I agree with that. I said that. You know, I would've rather just had Megan up there talking about women's rights and women's reproductive rights. The way Cardi. I thought, what Cardi doing fantastic.
- [57:54]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
And Cardi's all, But Cardi been talking politics for years. Cardi would come on there with no.
- [58:00]
DJ Envy
Wig hair everywhere and really know what.
- [58:03]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
She'S talking about and be like, listen here. All this shit fucked up. And then we'll run a whole bill that she could just author and try to pull into legislation. So what I'm saying is this whole election showed you the level of where our kids are. And I'm like, really? But it also showed you it didn't work. It didn't work.
- [58:21]
Angela Yee
I saw you said, too, that you comment on the fact that Kamala didn't come out that first night when she didn't win. Speak to that and speak to the comment, because people Were upset about.
- [58:31]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
Oh yeah, another unpopular opinion. I don't care. This is. She proved why the people, men and women who are not ready for a woman president, are not ready for a woman president because society and some men, not all, deem women as emotionally unstable and unable to regulate our emotions. Sis, when these, when you knew you weren't winning or weren't in the lead and these kids, these babies, these adults were at a historical black university that you went to, Howard, waiting hours for you, they had volunteered. I'm sure they had a contributed and they probably voted for you and supported you this entire time. You couldn't come out and address the people who supported you. That's proven to the people who don't believe women could lead at that level that a woman can't regulate her emotions enough to come out and take an L. I don't care if she would have came out in tears. Listen, I'm sorry we lost, whatever that looks like. And this husband, listen, I'll give a.
- [59:32]
Jess Hilarious
Little pushback on that because Donald Trump never gave a confession speech. Hillary Clinton, nor would he even admit that he lost.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
Listen, and I'm not in. In support of Donald Trump, but Donald Trump didn't need to come out cuz he never conceded. He also stood 10 toes down and said y'all, which I'm not saying I agree with this. Y'all rigged it. I won. I'm not conceding. He still got the keys to the.
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Charlamagne Tha God
White House, but he didn't come to his people either. When they, when that night he never came out. There was when he lost to Joe Biden. He never came out that night.
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Jess Hilarious
That's what I just said.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, no, but she said.
- [60:01]
Jess Hilarious
No, but she said he didn't come out.
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Charlamagne Tha God
But he didn't come out at all to speak to his people.
- [60:05]
Jess Hilarious
That's what I just said.
- [60:06]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
But we're talking about Trump who runs on being that type of person. So his people never expected that. Just like when someone says, well, Trump's a racist, he's running on that. Trump is talking about getting rid of dei. He has said that.
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Jess Hilarious
I get what you're saying. No, I get what you're saying.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
But Kamala came out and showed us all this love and support after she said, I can't do just something for the black community. But the day that I get into office, I'm going to sign my very first bill that's called immigrant reform. That's doing something for a group of people. Now, I'm black and Hispanic, so I ain't Got a problem against immigrants. But what I'm saying is, if you can't do something for one group of people, my love, that's one group of people. Now, let me move forward. But when you took the L. Let me add to that, not only did you not come out, you sent a man to come out and address these people. Cedric Richmond, he was fine, too. You sent a man. I don't know if you're married, but that man was handsome. You sent a man to come out and address the people. You didn't even send another woman or black woman. This was a woman's moment, and that's what you made it. Blackened women. You sent a man to do a woman's job. And in my opinion, that all that did was tell the folks who said women can't lead. See, she sent a man out to do it, and then came out the next day and said, okay, I'm gonna have this. That's not leadership. To me, leadership is commitment. And commitment is doing what you said you would do regardless of how you feel. I don't care how you felt. Kamala, come out and address us. Those kids left what they had down. They weren't sad just because she lost. They were sad because they were looking for who was throwing. Whether she lost or not to come out and address those kids. That's wrong. That's just out of pocket. That's not leadership. And you gotta have a backbone. So I mean it. I still supported her. I voted for her. But I didn't see the leadership in her from the beginning. But I was rooting for her. I wanted sis to show different. But when she didn't show up for that, I said, this is it. Who knows? Maybe I'll run in four years and I'll run black and women, and I'll run all these ways that I'm, you know, very lovingly criticizing Kamala for it. And maybe when I win, you know, y'all will say, well, of course you came out, Doc, because you won.
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Angela Yee
He is married, too. I looked it up for you, sis.
- [62:34]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
Sorry. Did you know Nipsey personally?
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Jess Hilarious
Yeah.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
I mean, yeah.
- [62:38]
Jess Hilarious
Okay.
- [62:39]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
We grew up in la. Everyone and everyone in la. And that's how you know we know each other. Yeah. Especially in the 80s. We're all 80s kids.
- [62:46]
Charlamagne Tha God
I was going to ask, when's the last time you apologized or last time you were wrong about something? Do you remember?
- [62:52]
DJ Envy
Good question. Envy?
- [62:53]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
It probably.
- [62:54]
Charlamagne Tha God
No, it probably was 1984.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
You know, it probably was. To my best friend Lola, and my assistant. We work so Closely together. We're always together. And because I'm so comfortable with her, she gets all of my moving parts, right? So she gets like the really good me. She gets like the bratty me. She gets the, what the fuck are you doing? You're moving too slow. Me, you know, she gets the thank you, me. And then she gets to like, you know, I'm sorry. You're right. That was a little brash. Or, you know, so probably her, to be honest with you.
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Angela Yee
What about to a man that you're dating, he ain't never get an apology. I asked you that, though, because you, you. You are very strong in opinion and stuff like that. And I think men think that women that are structured like, you don't know how to be accountable and don't know how to apologize.
- [63:39]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
I'm very accountable. I do apologize. That's why I said, I want a man who will say with respect. And he ain't about to just dominate, like, shut your ass up. You know, he can be disrespectful. But I want a man who's like, hold on, you out of pocket right now. You know, like, we don't do that. Yeah, this is not what we do. And I like you strong, but this is not strong. This is disrespectful, baby. But I want him to be able to know how to say it. And then I will be like, you know, even if it's not in that moment, I can process and be like, you know what? You're right. And I do. I will apologize. I will come to myself because I have the discipline of that self talk of saying stop, you know, Or I will say, listen, you've already apologized. You've done everything you could. Right now. It's not a you problem. I'm still trying to get out of my ego. So just give me 30 minutes. Because, baby, you've apologized like, you've done your job. And then I come around in 20, 30 minutes, and I'm like, okay, I'm back. And I'm sorry, too.
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Jess Hilarious
That's awareness. That's accountability.
- [64:34]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
Sorry, too. And the thing is, when you really want peace, and that's the thing about being single for so long, though, you.
- [64:40]
Angela Yee
I can. Yes, you figure it out.
- [64:43]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
You find a peace and a joy that when I do get in a.
- [64:45]
Angela Yee
Relationship, it gotta make sense.
- [64:46]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
And when you do get a relationship, though, you're really saying, let's deaden this. Let's deaden this argument. Because, see, I'm so used to being happy because it's just me That I just want to get to the cuddle part again. I just want to get to the happy party. So what do we need to do just to be good? And people who are so used to being in relationships with this circle dysfunction of argument, they leave that marriage and do the same thing.
- [65:08]
Jess Hilarious
That's real.
- [65:08]
Angela Yee
Have you ever got afraid that you're going to get so used to that piece that you're not going to want to do nothing? Because I tell myself that all the time. Like I'm in such a good state, I don't want nothing to bother me.
- [65:16]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
But people come with flaws.
- [65:17]
Charlamagne Tha God
Shut up, Charlemagne.
- [65:18]
Angela Yee
Hater. Well, he's a hater.
- [65:19]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
No, because I have been, I have been serial, serial dating for the six years I've been single. So when I say single, it means I haven't been committed. Committed, but have I had like three months, six months relationships that went that long season and were exclusive and were committed in that season. Yeah, because I, I am very into exclusivity. I, I don't like casual sex and so I will accidentally go a year, year and a half celibate because I don't like the casualty of sex. Do you know what I mean? And so, yeah, no. So I'm dating, like, I mean, like I have someone that I spend time with now that I will go on dates with. We're not committed, so I'm still single.
- [65:52]
Angela Yee
Right.
- [65:52]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
But I'm a woman who I, I'm, I'm going, I'm gonna have a companion around. I love companionship and I love a man's energy. That testosterone, that alpha energy is recharging for me. And it's not something that I would just say like, oh, I could do without. No, I want it, I love it. And so I keep around what I want and when I decide to, I would choose that one person to be around for the long term.
- [66:15]
Angela Yee
Well, when does that decision happen for you?
- [66:17]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
Now. I'm in my choosing stage, so it's.
- [66:19]
Angela Yee
Gonna happen now, like soon.
- [66:20]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
I'm in my choosing stage, but I'm not desperate. So it's not like again, I'm not choosing just a high valued man. I will even take a man who's a little less value, meaning a little less income money. But I just love this man. He's my person.
- [66:37]
Charlamagne Tha God
So you would take the bus driver?
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
I don't. Well, only no, because he's away from me for too long and he's coming home with money that's not worth the value. The time I'm not getting with you.
- [66:47]
Jess Hilarious
What if he's a good man? I guess that's why I'm confused about what the high value man thing. Because I'm like, I understand he got the bank, but what if he's just got a poor spirit? What if he got poor character? What if he's not willing to do the work on himself?
- [66:56]
Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
Like, that's why I'll take a little less value in higher functioning. Like I don't want high value, low functioning. I'll take a little less value. Right. Because I do well on my own. Am I going to take care of a man? No. Am I going to spoil the hell out of him? Hell yeah. But I'm not going to take care of you. Or will I go? Will I take you on a trip because you mine? Yeah. Would I buy you a brand new car when you come home and this is the Lambo you wanted? Hell yeah. But are you going to be a man who is. Is not submitting to me either? Or can't be in your Alpha, or you ain't paying no bills, or you're not respecting me, you're not coming to support my shows, you're not on my speaking tour? No. I'm not doing it with a man who's not doing those things. But do, do I need you to just take full care of me and then I still got my hand out? No, I'm submitting to you. You have in house love. And I'm not going to deny that. Whatever I got to do, I got you. I did that in relationships. And that's why the men I' are, the men I've dated also have always wanted to marry me because I'm a good woman. I treat them good. I'm loving. But also because I'm not choosing a man just for their value. I want you to have money. I want to go to Maldives. I want a trip. I want you to buy me a Birkin. Not because I want a Birkin, it's because I want it from you. Right. And so the Birkin or the Louis or whatever the hell coming from you is what I place value in. And that's what makes me love the bag. That's what makes me love the iPhone. Because you bought the iPhone for me. Right?
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DJ Envy
Yeah.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
Right. So yeah. Yeah. I mean, he can. Yeah. So I would. And I would regular have a. Rather have a regular man who isn't in the limelight, who we both don't have to straddle this, this whole industry thing. And he can go run a business or go be a corporate Guy, he can come to my shows and we can go home and have intellectual pillow talk. I can go home and put my hair in a bird's nest and walk around with sweats and a tank top and no bra. You don't know what a bird's nest is?
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Jess Hilarious
No, I definitely know what it is.
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Angela Yee
He just always.
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DJ Envy
You know what? So you got the show Truth Talks.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
I do truth Talks. Yes. Yes.
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DJ Envy
Before we get out of here.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
Oh, my God. So Truth Talks is my new talk show. It's on Fox. It's Monday through Friday at 8pm Congratulations.
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Jess Hilarious
Why would somebody give you a talk show? You good at talking to some?
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
No, not at all. Not at all. It's funny sometimes it's. Producers are like, doc, you know, give the other co host time to talk. I'm like, really? I'm like, I gotta do that?
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DJ Envy
Yeah.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
But it's cool because we're pretty much. We're a global news. We're, we're a CNN that gives you the black voice, the black perspective, and we're bringing truth to everything. News with culture twist to it. So we're, we're every night, 8pm prime time.
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DJ Envy
Love that.
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Jess Hilarious
How do they follow you? Dr. Shan?
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
Cheyenne, follow me on underscore, Dr. Bryant on Instagram, social media. Or you can go to Dr.bryant.co and that's Dr.bryant co, not dot com. And then I'm on my speaking tour. So every weekend I am on the tour with tonight's conversation, but I'm also on my own speaking tour. So every weekend go to my, my website, on my social media. You'll see that I'm with tonight's conversation for the rest of this year. But I also have my own speaking tour in Chicago. We got Atlanta, we got la, we got London, we got Canada, we have Iowa. I'm like, I'm like, y'all like black people, right?
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DJ Envy
That's how I be when I be on my comedy. So, like, who's in Wisconsin?
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
Even two people in Iowa who are black whose lives I can shift or change. The doc is on her way. The doc is on her way. We gonna do it. Yeah.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Dr. Charlene Bryant. We appreciate you, Brian.
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Jess Hilarious
Thoroughly enjoyed your comments.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Up here.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
I am. Thank y'all for having us. But no charlamagne. Seriously, thank you for being such an advocate. This whole mental health, it's not an event. You, you have a mental health movement going on. When I came there, people, I mean, to see black people, black men with like mental health for black people. Black men for mental health and mental health is life's life change. They had, like, merch with everything. Mental health black. And even though it's for all races and all ages, your panelists there were just giving incredible information. People were sitting there, intrigued, entertained. But more than that, people were leaving with gems that they were really like, yo, this event is powerful.
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Jess Hilarious
Thank you. I'm glad we could have you.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
So thank you for having that.
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Jess Hilarious
I needed you there, like, when we that you were, like, top of the list. I'm like, Dr. Bryant got to be there, so I'm happy that we can make that happen.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
Thank you so much. Thank y'all for having me.
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Charlamagne Tha God
That's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Thank you.
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DJ Envy
Wake that ass up in the morning.
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Dr. Cheyenne Bryant
The Breakfast Club.