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Best of full interview: G Herbo Talks New Album 'Lil Herb,' Grief; Father's Passing, Family, Meek Mill, Funny Marco + More
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G Herbo
Guaranteed human peace of the planet.
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Charlamagne Tha God
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DJ Envy
Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Yes, sir.
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DJ Envy
We got G herbo. Welcome. Good morning and congratulations, man. The number one record a couple of weeks ago. Congrats, man. Thank you.
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G Herbo
Thank you, brother.
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Angela Yee
How are you?
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G Herbo
I'm good, I'm good. I'm glad to be here.
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Angela Yee
That's what's up.
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DJ Envy
How's it feel? Number one record.
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G Herbo
It feel good. I'm not gonna lie. I feel great. It feel great. I just be trying to, like, stay in the moment. For real. For real, like, and just, just keep it like up, you know, like when you, when you got those type of moments, you just trying to figure out, like, all right, well, I, me personally, like, I gotta figure out what's the next best thing, like, what do I do next from that? Like, I try to live in the moment and grasp up that energy, but just keep it going. Like, I'm not trying to catch another number one. I'm just trying to keep it going.
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DJ Envy
Did you expect that to be the record? Cause it's not your typical. Of course. It was just you just spitting.
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G Herbo
Nah, hell no. For sure. I was just literally, I. I can't say it enough. It was just me just having fun in the. I was in New York and was in the studio. Me Southside Smack. And you know, Southside. Like, I really, I be having to give a lot of credit to Big bro. Because he one of the only people that could tell me like rap on this. Just rap on this and figure it out. Like just rap. And that's what I did. And that, that shit changed my life on there.
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Angela Yee
He was talking your shit on there.
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G Herbo
Yeah.
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DJ Envy
Who picked it as a single like? Or was it just. I'm just gonna release and see what happened and it just took off like how.
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G Herbo
That's what I'm saying. That's why I like, as artists, you gotta like really just bet on yourself. For real, for real. Because I was in a, in a, a mode of just trying to do music and see what the streets connected to. I didn't even. I like that song came out in December on my app. I got an app on my own app, like where I just put out music material, content, all this. It just for the people who really support me, like, you know what I'm saying? My fans, they know about the G Herbo app. I put it out on my app on a project that I was just recording all samples to. Like I did a project with all samples and it couldn't even go on Apple Music. It couldn't go on dsps. You see what I'm saying? Like I put it out on the app in December and the label put it out on DSPs in like March, April. So it's like you gotta just trash it and just see what the streets fuck with.
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Angela Yee
Congratulations on your app.
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G Herbo
I didn't know you had an appreciate it.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Has it changed the bag? Has that single changed your bag?
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G Herbo
Absolutely.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Because see, I be thinking that, you know, a lot of people be fronting on like the power of radio and having a big radio record speak to.
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G Herbo
That man for sure. And you gotta put money in radio though. Like you gotta like, you know what I'm saying, what you put in it come out. What, go out on the wash, come out in the rinse, whatever that saying is. You see what I'm saying? So like I always been like. I knew because I've been independent this whole time. So I know about like analytics. I know about like residuals. I know what like one record could really change your life. That's right. I'm saying like. And I finally caught that record, that like that life changing record. So yeah, the, the bag been crazy since.
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Charlamagne Tha God
And the royalties from radio are better than the screaming.
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G Herbo
Yeah, absolutely. For sure. And it's like once you, once you get a song that really go radio, it's like it just like it just changed everything. For real, for real.
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DJ Envy
Changes the places you Actually perform?
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G Herbo
Yeah, for sure. Right, exactly. Like, you could put. You could put. You put money in radio for sure, for it to do what it's supposed to do. But just like, even, like, it's a difference between like putting something in radio for just getting a radio for. To get like, rhythmic play playlist, you know what I'm saying? Like, all of that is a big super difference. Like, I'll be talking to, like, make all the time. And just like, once you get a record, like, I'm not even talking about went legit, like, it's certain records that like the format where, you know, it could go radio. You feel what I'm saying? Like, I feel like every artist, all you need is like one radio record a year. Just one. And like, you feel what I'm saying?
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DJ Envy
It ain't that easy to get one record.
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G Herbo
It's not easy at all. But like, you know, hit maker, that's my big brother. Like, he. He the God of this. Like, you feel what I'm saying? Like, he know the whole formula. He do it like, and that's why he's so rich. Like that nigga rich as. Cause he own radio every year at least figured it out for sure.
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Angela Yee
Wild little Herb.
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G Herbo
Wild little Herb. I was just trying to, like, tap into, like, that old hunger, like my old self. And when I be rapping good and, like, I be reading the comments and sometime my fans be like, oh, that ain't. That ain't G herbo. That's Lil Herb. You know what I'm saying? Like, I feel like that was like one of my best eras of rap. Like, I always been able to rap. I'm an mc, so it's like I'm. I don't care if I'm not even all the way tapped into, like, my confidence and all of that shit. I'm always gonna be able to rap good, you feel me? But, like, once you really focus on straight rap, it's different. And that's what I was trying to do. So that's why I went and like, named my album Lil Herb. I was going to, like, listen to old interviews, listen to old music videos. I mean, watch old music videos, listen to old songs and shit like that. And like, I was just trying to find, like, a higher, like, level of rap for myself, you know what I'm saying? Like, and I say this all the time. Like, you could really get caught up in what's in front of you. Like, always been the type of person, like, I say this a lot. A lot of rooms that I was in. I wasn't really in the rooms, you know what I'm saying? Because I'm thinking about like, my past.
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DJ Envy
Yeah.
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G Herbo
I'm thinking about what I gotta do when I get out the room. Like, I'm just saying, what's up? Like, certain conversations that I really couldn't have because my mind is all over the place. You feel me? Like, so like in this like era where I am mentally, I was just trying to like, find that old hunger that made me enjoy what I have now. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, like, that's, that's why I really named my project Lil Herb. Because like you like on a day to day. I'm 30 years old. I've been rapping since I was like 16. For real, for real, you feel me? And I was trying to figure out, like, damn, all the steps that it took me to get here. You feel what I'm saying? I forgot a lot. I'm not gonna lie. It's a lot of shit that I did that I forgot. So it's like I wanted to make myself remember, so I had to go back and tap in with my old self. For real.
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Charlamagne Tha God
I heard you say Lil Herb is a full circle moment and it's a return to the fundamentals. But you closing the chapter on the little Herb area, what does, what does closing that chapter actually look like?
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G Herbo
Closing that chapter is like for real, just letting go. Like, it's a lot of that. I held on to that. I just don't need no more. Like, for real, for real.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Like the streets, that therapy talk right there, boy.
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G Herbo
Yeah, Just letting go. For real, for real. And it is, it is definitely therapy that help me. It's like a lot of that you hold on to you just like, just let it go. Just let it go and just let it find you. You know what I'm saying? Like, no, for real. Like, I was one of them people that just like my heart so big and I feel like people knew that. Like, people knew that. Like they, they grabbed me and I'm grabbing them back. You feel what I'm saying? Like I'm holding on to that type of. It's like that's just letting that chapter go. Like I should. Like, and people been saying this to me for years and I've been knowing it, but I never really acted on it. Like, I. I shouldn't focus on nothing but music and my family and like, God, like, that's the only thing that I should wake up and care about. I shouldn't really give A about how somebody else eat or how somebody else get to work or get to sleep or any of that shit. And I worried about that for years. Like, let's be closing that chapter. Like I'mma tap into this, tell my story and just let go or let go and let God. For real, for real and that go for everything and everybody and. And it's a whole nother chapter opening for me because everything that got me here, I don't even really have it no more. For real, for real. All my friends did. I'm finna be a real 100% independent artist. I don't got no label, no production company. I'm 100% a real new person and a new artist. So it's like I just want to just tap into this shit, do what I need to do. And I'm already doing it for real, but just like letting go for real. I don't want to have no attachments other than and family. No, you talk.
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Charlamagne Tha God
So how did you. How did you balance revisiting like those old traumas with the grown man you are now like you. You 30, so you, you a whole new level of life. You done shifted a phase of life. You got that kid, 19 year old kid no more.
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G Herbo
Yeah, no for sure. My homie, my, one of my best friends, he. He used to say this like, he only probably like eight months older than me. He like, bro, once you touch 30, you just gonna start thinking. He used to tell me like, I can't wait till you turn 30. Like he turned 30. He like, I can't wait till you turn 30. Right? Because it's just like, it's like a light switch. Like just. You know what I'm saying? Just tap in for you and is for. For me for real. Like, I promise I'm like, I don't, I don't be wanting to sound like cliche or corny or none of this type of. But like my girl is like my toughest critic. Like she won the people who really just like stay on me. Like she tell me a lot of that. I know and I don't act on, you know what I'm saying, where it's just coming to like my business around me, you know what I'm saying? Like all of that, you feel me? Like, and like to kind of like tap into the. The what you were saying. The question is like you just gotta, you just gotta really like just go with your gut, your intuition. You feel what I'm saying? Like a lot of times question theyself and feel like all right? But, you know, you might know the answer. You might know right from wrong and not do it because you question how it's going to, like, affect other people. You feel I'm saying, like. And I'm one of them type of people, but, like, I'm one of the type of people that think about how it's going to affect other people. And, like, I was saying that, like, because my girl, she, like, she don't give a fuck. Like, she don't care. And you need that. Like, you need it. Like, I really got to stop caring. For real, for real. Like, I feel like I care too much, and I like, doing certain shit or not doing certain things because I'm figuring. I'm feeling like it's going to affect people in a negative way or whatever way it is. You know what I'm saying? It's like, if you got a good heart, if you just lead with what is right for you, like, it'll. It'll work out for sure.
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DJ Envy
Now you talk about Meek Mill changing your life, right? You said he was your inspiration.
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G Herbo
Yeah.
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DJ Envy
Break that down of what you seen in Milk. That Meek that made you think that.
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G Herbo
You can do it, bro. I literally. I just got done listening to We Gonna get this Money right now on my way here. Like, Meek is my favorite rapper. For real, bro. It's my big brother. And I was just with Meek last night. We just did a song last night. We was in the studio last night, I believe. Yeah, two nights ago. Yeah, we just in the studio the other day. But Meek is just like. Like, he's like, I. I used to listen to Meek and watch Meek when he was a battle rapper, but when he really got rich and made this happen, it's like, all right, but that, like, it's different from me watching, like, Wayne and hov, and you know what I'm saying? Like, I couldn't. Like, I. I could relate to it, but it's like, once when I grew up and me grow, I seen them rich already. Like, yeah, I seen me turn rich coming from the streets and going through all the. That he went through and really, like, talking about it and preaching, like, positivity and motivation, that made me feel like I just want to be like that. For real, for real. Like, that really, like, helped me grow into the artist that I am today. For real, for real. Because, like, damn. Like, this Meek, like, it's not like he was an artist and he was, like, far away. You feel what I'm saying? Like, I felt like I could grasp onto that and become that, like this is a real street. That became the biggest in the world. Like he became the biggest, best rat and he's a rap guy. Like I love rapping, I'm an emcee, so I study that first and foremost. But just a blueprint of like a, like he, he like he gave you the real blueprint. Like you get on you, you take care of niggas, you do what you supposed to do, you take care of your family. Your mother like that nigga used to make me. Like I just used to have to just give money to my mama. Just like thinking about that type of shit. You feel what I'm saying? Like I retired my mom when I was 16 years old, bro. Literally. And it put a lot of pressure on me. I told my mama stopped working when I was 16, she never worked since. I've been taking care of her, my aunties, my whole family, since I was 16. That's a lot of pressure. That's a hell of a pressure, A lot of pressure.
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DJ Envy
But how do you now one more question. I was going to say, so now you're the meek mill for a lot of these younger artists. So what do you show them to show them that they can do it. What do you do different? So because you know you got a lot of kids watching you, they want.
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G Herbo
To be herbo for sure. Like for me is I just try to like, what's the word? Like you gotta like show em, like, like what Meek did for real. Like being example, tangible. You just gotta show like, like the thing with me that I feel like make a difference a lot is I let people see me in the physical. Like you gotta see it, like have conversations. Like seeing is believing. You feel what I'm saying? Like, you know, you could do this when you could actually get in front of somebody. Like me growing up, I never seen nobody that I looked up to and I wanted to be like in front of me, talking to me, you know what I'm saying? Like I just had to have a manpower, like I could do it, I'm gonna do it. You feel what I'm saying? Like, and it happened for me. And when I got a certain age, like 19, 28, like those ages when I started traveling and having conversations with people that I looked up to, but like 14, 15, 16, them years really matter. Whereas like, you know what I'm saying, I try to be the person where I just go back and do certain things and go touch the community and you know what I'm saying, tell them that they could really make it like this is nothing for real. Like, like. And I ain't gonna say it's nothing. Like, it's, it's a task for sure. It's hard, but it's easy at the same time. All you gotta do is wake up and strive to go get it and want to do it and believe that you could do it. You just gotta have a vision, you know what I'm saying? Like, and, and when I go look at, like these kids and be going to talk and have conversations, like, they got the same power that I got. Like, they really got something in them. They just don't think it's possible. This is really possible. Like, they. When you wake up and all you got is this 4 block radius and your hood and the. That you dealing with every day, you think that's your life, but it's like it's so much outside of that.
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Angela Yee
Yeah.
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G Herbo
All you got to know is how to break that cycle. And you feel what I'm saying? Like, that's, that's the thing with me. Like, I feel like that's what make a difference in why people like believe in me. Because I try. I let them touch me. I let them. You know what I'm saying? Pause like.
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Charlamagne Tha God
You know what I'm saying?
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G Herbo
I go see the people.
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Charlamagne Tha God
I'm thinking about something now, and you made me think about it when you said you've been rapping since you was 19. Because I can remember like your first.
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G Herbo
16.
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Charlamagne Tha God
16. So I can remember your first early Breakfast Club interviews.
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DJ Envy
Right.
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Charlamagne Tha God
But then it started getting me thinking about all of these artists we've seen from Chicago that have come through, come through here the past 15 years. You talk about what's possible, man. You are proof that surviving is possible. Chief Keef is proof that surviving is possible.
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G Herbo
Sosa, definitely.
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Charlamagne Tha God
You know what I mean? People like Dirk, that's locked up, people like Von that's no longer here. Plenty other artists we probably interview from Chicago.
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G Herbo
Yeah, for sure.
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Charlamagne Tha God
How does that feel?
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G Herbo
It feel great, man. You know, and I'm gonna say this again. I'm a shout Mick out real quick. Cause he just told me the other day and it's like he told me this before, but him telling me the other day, it just like, it feel different. It's a different feeling than him saying. It's like he like, man, when you the chosen one, it's certain things that just affect you differently. You know what I'm saying? And I learned that from the streets. Like, I done bumped my head so many times and did so Much and been arrested and fell off and came back or whatever the case may be. You know what I'm saying? It's like, when you do certain things, God just punish you differently because you can't get away with that. You feel what I'm saying? Like, you would think you would see somebody else doing it. Like, oh, he did it. And you can't do that because God got a different path for you. And like, surviving in Chicago, just making it out of the streets alone is a blessing. Like, it's literally like I'd be seeing some of my homies and certain people that just like. But. And I understand it, other people don't get it. Like, it's certain people where you just, like. You just like, wash your hands with everything. I know certain niggas that was real menaces in the streets that don't do nothing but just be at home with their girl and their kids now because they just want peace. Like, damn, I made it out this shit. I can't believe I'm still alive. Like, a lot of people never experience life to that capacity where they just grateful that they're alive, that they still here. You feel? I'm saying. And there's a lot of people when it comes to surviving, you gotta. You gotta make decisions, and it got to be calculated. And it's a lot of people that's just raised off survival. When you would do anything. It's a difference. Like when you survive and you just raised off survival. Like, I'm trying to explain that with, like, it's certain people where if you just, like, survive was your first instinct, you would do anything. Yeah, you would. You would. You would kill your closest friend. You a snitch. Robbed, rob, steal from your mama, your grandma, and. And you got to understand, it's like, that's just life. It's certain people who don't know nothing else. They was raised off of survival. They mother and father raised them off of survival.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Right?
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G Herbo
So it's like a lot of people don't understand that. You feel what I'm saying? It's just me being here today. I try to, like, I think that's one of the reasons why, like, I probably got took advantage of so much because I understand both sides of the fence. And I try to get everybody the benefit of the doubt, you know what I'm saying? Like, I try to, like, I try to think about putting myself in other people's shoes before I make a decision. I'm saying, like, I always. Before I do anything, I always think about the Consequences, repercussions, everything. So if I do something to anybody or do anything, I thought about it so many times, I'm comfortable with, have it play out. You feel what I'm saying? And like, you, like, it's only certain people that think like that, especially in life. And coming from Chicago, you got to think about both sides of the fence. It's certain people that think a lot, and there's certain people that don't think at all. You feel me? And this shit. Like, it's a blessing to be here for sure. For sure. Cause I seen a lot. I experienced a lot. I seen a lot of death. And I just come from one of the toughest neighborhoods in Chicago. Like, one of the most poverty struck in neighborhoods where it's like, I was a kid and people used to. Like, a lady walked. I think I said this before on a Breakfast Club interview when I was at Shorty. Like, a lady walked up on me. I'm waiting on my mom. She coming from the laundromat. A lady walked up on me like, you got some C. I'm like, she like, what? I'm like, what? She like, you got some seed. She asked for crack. I'm like 9 years old. I'm like 9, 10. Waiting on my mama to come in the house like, you got some C. I'm like, what?
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DJ Envy
Yeah.
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G Herbo
She asked me if I had cracked. Literally, a kid. Three in the morning, I'm outside. Cause that's. It's nine year olds selling crack. For real. For real, like, so when did you.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Get some to sell?
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G Herbo
Jesus. That's the statue of limitations with this. For real. Like, I done sold some crack. It's a statue of limitations for sure. But I always been one of them kids is like, I just wanted to get money. I knew how to get money early on, you feel what I'm saying? Like, and I. I used to do. To just get fly, like, get fresh and shit. You know what I'm saying? Like, and I'm. I'm blessed that I didn't have to do it for long. You feel me? Like, I ain't got. Like, I started really making money off music at 16 years old.
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Charlamagne Tha God
That's crazy.
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G Herbo
But I was outside 2 for sure.
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Charlamagne Tha God
What was the first record you made money off was. It wasn't the Nikki record, right? Was it Chicago?
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G Herbo
The first record I actually like when we started making money, like, after Kill came out. Yeah, Kill. Yeah.
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DJ Envy
I was gonna ask with. I know he mentioned Sosa, he mentioned Vaughn, mentioned Dirk. Have you spoke to Dirk?
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G Herbo
Yeah, yeah, I Spoke to Smirk, talked to Dirk probably like a month. A month or two ago.
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DJ Envy
How's he doing?
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G Herbo
Yeah, he doing good for sure. Like, mentally. And that's the thing about Smurk. If you know him, you know, he good. Like, that is really a real discipline. Mentally strong. For real, for real. Like this, just, like, he just like this, just a part of his journey. Like, he know he coming from under this. We all know he coming from under this. You know what I'm saying? But, like, he's. He. He one of them type of. Like, he never gonna lose himself. All he doing is praying, talking to his family, like, connecting with God, you know what I'm saying? Like, shit like that. And, yeah, Smirk definitely good. I spoke to him. I sent them, like, a little snippet of music that I'm putting out. And the music that I like was saying his name in shit like that. You feel what I'm saying? Like, it's my brother. Yeah, pretty smirk.
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Angela Yee
So for Lil Herb, right?
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Charlamagne Tha God
Do you.
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Angela Yee
Are you getting personal? Like, are we hearing the pain? Because you have been through a lot. You said you lost your friends and then God rest your dad, so, you know what I'm saying? You've been through a lot of. Yeah, so are we getting the personal? We getting the pain?
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G Herbo
Definitely. I'm speaking about, like, everything. I feel like I've. I've. I covered a lot in this album. Yeah, I'm really talking about a lot. A lot, a lot, a lot. And it make me feel good, though, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's like rap always been a form of, like, therapy for me, you know what I'm saying? So it's, like, certain. I don't really, like, when I'm in the studio, I just rap and just, like, I got to a point in my life, in my career where I don't think about, like, how people gonna receive it, like, how the world gonna receive it, how my family gonna receive it or whatever. I just speak about whatever is on my mind and go from there, you know what I'm saying? And that's how I pick the records. You feel what I'm saying, like. And I don't. I'm saying that to say, like, I don't really realize all the shit I'm talking about and what I cover until I'm hearing it, like, on the speaker, you know what I'm saying? I just go in the studio and rap and, like, hear a week later or two weeks later, like, damn, I just said some shit like. Like, yeah, no, for sure. Like, that. That this album is. And, you know, artists say this all the time. I feel like I always feel like this, but, like, you would say, like, oh, yeah, this is one of my best projects. And, like, I don't. I'm not even gonna say this my best project or my best body of work. I really don't feel like it's my best body of work, but I just feel like it's my best era of rap. I feel like I'm rapping better than I ever rapped before. Like, however they receive it or whoever, feel like this project better than this one or not. Like, I just know for a fact I'm rapping so good and I gave it my all, for sure.
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Charlamagne Tha God
How therapeutic was this album, though, in regards to your grieving process? Cause I hear you mention your brother a lot, especially on Give It All.
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G Herbo
How.
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Charlamagne Tha God
How did that help?
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G Herbo
I ain't gonna lie that I've been dealing with death since I was a kid, bro. Like, I lost. I started losing friends when I was, like, 14 years old, you know, like, and. And I'm talking about that. I'm touching on that in my. In my alb. My project. But you gotta really, like, realize I'm 30 years old. I've been losing people I love for 15 years and still managing to wake up and make it happen and bg herbo and take pictures and smile for the fans. Like, I really didn't. Lost some of my best friends and had to go do a show that same day. You know what I'm saying? Like, my homie cap died 2015. I had to perform in front of 10,000 people. I just had to find an Emmy. A lot of people can't do that. A lot of people, like, man, I just lost my homie. Fuck this shit. I'm finna go spin. Like, I wanted to go do the show. Like, so it's like, I feel like I'm really destined for this shit. I chose my own destiny. I chose my own path. And I'm saying that, like, for me to experience all of that death and feel like I was numb to it when my little brother died, it changed my life. That was some of the worst pain that I ever felt in my life ever. Like, I could never. I never could fathom. Like, and I'm a street nigga. Like, when I wake out, when I walk out the house, I feel like I'm gonna die. Like, you know, like, I really feel like that. And that's what get me home. You feel what I'm saying? Like, every step, every move that I take is calculated. And I never felt like he was gonna die. You know what I'm saying? Like, no. Bullshit. I never, ever think like him. Hell no. I just. I never thought he was gonna die. Every day I wake up, I really feel like I'm a die. I feel like somebody will do something to me, and that's just the life I live. And that's just.
- [26:16]
DJ Envy
You still feel like that? Cause I remember last time you said you feel like that and you said you were going to therapy to help you.
- [26:21]
G Herbo
Yeah, it helped me with it. Helped me with it. But, like, nah, hell no. And I. And I'm glad that even going through therapy and. And. And like, growing and healing the way that I've healed in my life, I'm. I'm kind of glad that I never lost that edge, for real. Because that's how I protect myself. That's how I protect my children. That's how I make sure I get back home. You feel what I'm saying? Like, and I'm not out here thugging. I ain't wilding. I ain't doing no crazy. Some days I leave the house and it just be just me by myself, no security, nothing. But I'm still on point. I'm still watching my back. I'm still aware of my surroundings, you feel. I'm saying. So it's like, I'm glad that I never lost that edge. For real. For real. And when, like, going back to what you know, I'm saying what you said, Charlemagne. Like, when I. When my little brother died, I lost myself. Like, I became an alcoholic. Like, a badass alcoholic. I never used to drink, bro. I used to drink a fifth of liquor every single day. Like, every day by myself. Like, and my girl was pregnant when he died. You feel me? Like, and I was like, I was trying to, like, not be that weak around her. You feel me? Because she know I done been through shit. Like, she done been around me and I done lost homies. You feel what I'm saying? Like, and she used to, like, say shit, like, snap out of it. Like, you feel me? Like, she used to, like, say, but it's like, I can't. It was just so hard for me. I really couldn't, for real. Like, I used to have to leave the house just to go cry. Like, swear to God, like, just go get in the car and just cry for an hour straight. Cause I ain't want to do that in front of her. And I felt like I should have. I should have I should have, but I was like, I don't know, I just.
- [28:06]
Angela Yee
And when she say snap out of it, what does she mean?
- [28:08]
G Herbo
Like, not snap out of the grief, snap out of the healing, snap out of the crashing out. Like drinking, Drinking every day and wanting to go to the club. Club and just feel something. Because I really can't feel nothing. You feel what I'm saying? Like, that was like. That's what she used to tell me to snap out of. And it was like. It was hard, man, I ain't going to lie.
- [28:28]
Charlamagne Tha God
Did people in your family try to, like, blame you? Because you know, for whatever reason, when you're the person that made it, when something bad go happen, they feel like your success and your money could have kept that person from being in that situation.
- [28:41]
G Herbo
Nah, not really. For real, for real. Like, honestly, they didn't. And that was like the. The biggest blessing. Nobody ever blamed me. For real, for real. Like. And I had a conversation with my grandma and I said this. When I did the. This with. With Shannon Sharp, I just did an interview with him and I had a conversation with my grandma and she made me like, she. It was one of the conversations that made me snap out of drinking and crashing out because she like, man, I already lost him. I'm not gonna lose you to this. You feel what I'm saying? And she didn't blame me, but, like, it was like my little brother was real, like, good, a solid. And I know for a fact he got killed because somebody wanted to hurt me. For sure it wasn't my fault. But she like, you gotta do it the right way. Like, if you finna like, no, everybody, we grieve and we all going through the same, but you can't grieve like that. Like, you gotta go make it. Like, you gotta make this happen for him because it's like, he's not gonna die in vain. You feel me? Like, that was the conversation that she had with me and that just turned me up. And one of the last conversations, I swear to God, my brother died at 11am or some. We was texting at 4 or 5 in the morning. My last conversation with him was just like, bro, I don't want to do number. See you win. Like, I ain't never asked you for nothing. Like, he never really asked me for no money. Everything I ever gave him, everything we ever did was just like a bonus. Like that. Never asked me for no money ever. He never asked me, like, give me this, buy me this, put me on, do this, do that. And he been with Me every step of the way. You feel me? He just enjoy the fruits of my labor that literally never asked me for no money ever in life. And our last conversation was, bro, I just want to see you win. Like, I just want you to do this. And we was talking back and forth, and I swear to God, the next morning that died.
- [30:44]
Charlamagne Tha God
So were you blaming yourself? That's why you was trying to escape?
- [30:48]
G Herbo
Yeah.
- [30:49]
Charlamagne Tha God
When did you stop blaming yourself?
- [30:52]
G Herbo
I was definitely blaming myself because I just felt like. And I used to have these conversations with him. Like, I used to really tell him. And that's the reason why I had to go back and think and reflect, because I used to tell that, like, bro, move to la. Like, he got kids. Just like I got kids. I used to really tell that. Like, man, go back and take care of them every now and then or do whatever you need to do. Send that. Like, bro, just come with me, please. Like, I used to have that conversation with him. Like, bro, just come to la. Move to la. Like, please, just come out here. You feel what I'm saying? Like, because I know what that. Like, bro, like, you feel what I'm saying? Like, I used to. I used to talk to that nigga and be like, bro, just stop going back. For real, for real. Cause I'm thinking about that shit. Like, he. He. My brother was in the streets, but I feel like he was just naive to the fact, like, he really. Like. Like I said, like, I used to leave out the house and feel like I'm a die every day. He didn't have it, man.
- [31:42]
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- [33:09]
G Herbo
That's it.
- [33:10]
Angela Yee
He's more optimist.
- [33:11]
G Herbo
He didn't think like that. You feel me? I used to think like that, and it scared me. Like, I hate to see somebody I love walk out. I'm like, man, this could die, right? Like, you feel what I'm saying? And I was blaming myself in a way, because I just felt like I should have. Well, I could have. I ain't gonna say I should have. Like, I feel like I could have just, like, changed everybody life by force. And you can't do that. You can't feel like you could save everybody. You know what I'm saying? Like, and I stopped blaming myself when I just realized that, like, I realized, like, you, like, it was nothing I could do for real. Like, I used to really. I used to think, like, that's why I was so fucked up. Cause I felt like even me being G herbo, being an artist, being a star, I wish I was really with him when that happened. Because it wouldn't happen like that. Like, I would have put my life on the line. I would have put everything on the line 1000%. Like, the scenario and how he died. I feel like if I was. And you can't feel like that, like, because, you know, you thinking about every scenario. Like, I'm thinking, like, if it was me in there, like, it probably wouldn't happen. Like, I would have did this this way. But you don't know, like, you know what I'm saying? God, is that, like, he is the person who control your destiny and say how, like, shit happened. But I'm thinking about that and it's like, I really used to, like, really wish I was with him. Like, I just really feel like. I wish. Like, still to this day, I really wish I just would have been there, like, because I feel like it wouldn't have happened that way.
- [34:34]
DJ Envy
But how do you Stop yourself crashing out. Like, we've seen it with Gilly and the bad. One of the worst things about the Internet is the Internet will make you lose yourself. Right? They'll trick you into taking you off the street. How did you say, you know what? I'm just gonna stay focused and grieve my brother, but still focus on my family.
- [34:50]
G Herbo
Yeah.
- [34:51]
DJ Envy
Because a lot of times people be like, now I gotta get my. I gotta get my get back. I gotta do this, I gotta do that. And it puts you in.
- [34:55]
G Herbo
So you were talking about like what I, what I said on the, the. The interview I just did with Gilly. It's like naturally, it's like every action deserve a reaction. And I come from a place where it's like you gotta react. Like certain shit you do. Like, even if you, like some shit might happen to you today and you make it home, when you get in the house, you thinking about what the people gonna say, like what the hood gonna say. When I come back, I gotta do something. You feel what I'm saying? And I'm one of them niggas. Like, me personally, if I go to sleep, like with it on my mind, like, if I'm thinking about it all day, I'm gonna have to do something. Like, for real, for real. Like, if that shit stay on my brain and I think about it three times, four times, five times, that's when I feel like is eligible for me to not crash out, but react. Because I'm never gonna crash out. Because if I was, I feel like the definition of when people say like crash out is when you react right then off emotion. That's a crash out. You feel what I'm saying? Like whatever I do to you, if I didn't thought about this and calculated my steps and whatever consequences happened behind that, that's not a crash out. Because I made a choice. I'm okay with what happens if I'm saying like, and for me, like how I stop myself from doing that is like, certain is not worth it. Like I know for sure. I know my power. I know what I could do, you know what I'm saying? It's like certain is like I'm automatically like not a person that like confrontation. I hate confrontation because I only know how to deal with it one or two ways. Somebody gotta fight or die or something. You know what I'm saying? Like, I only know how to approach it that way. Like I'm not a person that could have a two hour long conversation about something, get to the bottom of it. That's just not me. So I avoid it every chance I could get. You feel what I'm saying? So it's like just. You got to know yourself. You gotta know like you. You gotta know when people say things or try to push your buttons and just let them have it. Like I don't care about nobody saying I'm a punk or nobody saying I'm a. Or none of that type of. And I used to for sure, you know what I'm saying? But it's like at this point I just think about my kids. Like literally that's the main reason why I don't do crazy. Cause I think about my kids. It's like my kids don't understand what I got going on. You know what I'm saying? My kids don't understand. If I end up in jail, they'll be like, what the fuck? How my daddy go to jail? And I know what put me in jail, you know what I'm saying? Like, I know what got me there. I know what I did. But a lot of times people don't explain that to their kids. You feel what I'm saying? And being a father, you got to be transparent as with your kids with shit like that. If you make a crazy decision, a life changing decision, you gotta explain that to your kids. For real. For real. So they don't make the decision. So they understand why my dad not coming home. All. All that type of. So I just. That's the type of confrontation that I avoid as well. Like I just think about my children, bro. Like a lot of. Like when you had kids, like it's a lot of that you would do that when you had kids. Like, hell no, I ain't thinking about doing that no more. For sure.
- [37:59]
Charlamagne Tha God
I want to go back to one thing you said in regards to how you reacted. Death. Because you know, staying busy is a response to trauma.
- [38:06]
G Herbo
Yeah, right.
- [38:07]
Charlamagne Tha God
And, and we saw that in real time, if you don't mind me bringing this up. Like, like people don't know. The day your father passed. God bless.
- [38:14]
G Herbo
The day I came here, you were.
- [38:16]
Charlamagne Tha God
Scheduled to do a Breakfast Club interview. You came in the studio and still.
- [38:20]
DJ Envy
Wanted to do it.
- [38:20]
Charlamagne Tha God
I'm like, bro, go home. Like, what the hell?
- [38:24]
G Herbo
And I love you forever for that. Cause I really was here to do this. And it's like, that's the thing. Like I'm so used to death and used to shit. It's like I didn't even process it for real. I came here cause it's like I really was in my head Trying to forget that my dad is dead. But I gotta, like, understand it. I gotta know. Like, yeah, my pops just died today. I need to process that.
- [38:47]
Charlamagne Tha God
Like, and you had just got the news while you was in the car.
- [38:51]
G Herbo
On the way here? Yeah, my dad was in the hospital. I knew he was sick, and I found out he died, and I just came here. I don't know. I just, like, I. I don't even. Like.
- [39:04]
Charlamagne Tha God
What are you doing, bro? Like, we're not doing no enemy.
- [39:07]
G Herbo
Yeah, no, it's telling me like, bro, just go home. Like, just, yeah, leave, bro. For real, for real.
- [39:11]
Angela Yee
What was the rest of that day like? What did you do? Did you reflect on it? Were you afraid to even.
- [39:15]
G Herbo
I was afraid. I was afraid because, like, when you lose a parent, that different. For real, for. And my dad, like, I didn't. I didn't have an absent father. Like, my father been living with me my entire life. Like, my mother and my dad been together 40 years. For real, for real. And, like. And I think I was just trying to, like, not feel it, like, not process it. Like, you know what I'm saying? I was just like, all right, bet. Let me just do it. And, like, that's the. That's the problem. Like, that's the thing. Like, you feel like, all right, let me just do it and push through this. And this is my job. This is my life. Like, you gotta put that to the side. Sometimes when you're going through things like that, you feel what I'm saying? And the rest of that day for me was really just like, I was scared. Like, I ain't want to call my mama. I ain't want to talk to my sister. It took me so long to just ask my sister, are you okay? How you doing? That was hard. For real? For real. Like, it was super hard.
- [40:05]
Angela Yee
You weren't okay?
- [40:06]
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
- [40:07]
G Herbo
Like, I was scared to, like, had them conversations with her. Like, how you feeling? You know what I'm saying? Even my mom, like, I keep my mom close to me and my mom like this. You feel me? And I. I know it. Like, I. I could see it. I know she was not okay. And I used to avoid them conversations, you know what I'm saying? Like, she bring stuff up and, like, send me pictures and all that. Like, it was. It was like, I, I, I. I didn't want to look at pictures of my dad for a long time because it made me cry. Like, I ain't like. And I'm not. I'm like, I'd have been in therapy. I'M a person that's not like, shy from my emotions. Like, I'm in tune with my emotions. All of that was just like, it was hard because, like, for me just, I just thought he had more time. Like, I just wanted him to be here. So I wasn't trying to like, living reality because I'm still. I was still grieving my little brother, you know what I'm saying? Like, so when that happened, it was just like, I didn't want to believe that my dad was dead. Because I be on the road sometimes I go eight months without seeing my pops. So it's like, you feel me? Like eight, nine months without seeing them at all. Sometimes I go months without talking to him. So I was trying to like, tap into that. Like, you feel me? Like, let me just get in that mentality. Like he, like he here, but you know what I'm saying? But he. My pops really like that crazy. I think about that every day. Like, man really died on me. And it's crazy. Like, that's why, like, I pray every day. Like, I pray so much because my pops, my last conversation with him, my dad died the day after his birthday. Like my birthday, October 8th. My dad birthday, October 16th, he died on the 17th. And my last conversation with him, I called him, I said, happy birthday. I said, man, you on your way, boy. You getting old. Like, I'm like, you getting old, boy. And he died. Like, that was the last thing I said to my pops. Like, boy, you on your way, boy, you about to be 70, you know what I'm saying? Like, you getting old. That stop getting old dream.
- [42:07]
Angela Yee
Like you said that I was on my way.
- [42:10]
G Herbo
Yeah, I. I hope so. I want him to now he haven't checked. I want him to. I hope he. I hope he's telling me that tonight. Like, that should have gave me a lot of comfort. For real? For real.
- [42:18]
Charlamagne Tha God
Like, is it hard to write about? I mean, like I said, you write about your brother now.
- [42:22]
G Herbo
Yeah.
- [42:22]
Charlamagne Tha God
But you think your brother will pass three years ago?
- [42:25]
G Herbo
Five.
- [42:25]
Charlamagne Tha God
Five.
- [42:26]
G Herbo
Okay, five years.
- [42:27]
Charlamagne Tha God
So is it hard? It's hard to put that on paper.
- [42:29]
G Herbo
Right now in a way. Like, only like, I'll just like for sure. Like in a way I just rap about like my pop's passing. Yeah, I never. Like, I didn't got all the way. Like, I didn't made songs like paying homage to my brother. Like, give it all. That song is about my brother and made songs just talking about how I felt that day. Like, I done made multiple songs about my brother dying. Like I ain't did that for my pops yet. All I said on wax, for real, is just like my dad did. Like, I never spoke about the emotions, how I felt, none of that. So, yeah, it is definitely tough because I. I don't know, I feel like mentally or just where I'm at in life. Like, I ain't been able to tap into that pain yet.
- [43:10]
Angela Yee
Yeah.
- [43:11]
DJ Envy
Do you. Do you make it a conscious effort to not to take it out on your girl?
- [43:16]
G Herbo
Right.
- [43:17]
DJ Envy
And the reason I say that is a lot of times when we deal with things, the only person we do really get a chance to talk to is your girl.
- [43:23]
G Herbo
Absolutely.
- [43:24]
DJ Envy
Your fiance, your wife. So do you make it a counter effort when you talk about the death, your brother, everything that's going on in the streets, your father, do you make that effort not to do it?
- [43:32]
G Herbo
No. Now I talk to her about everything. Like whatever emotion I'm feeling, I bring it to her in a way where I just want her to understand it. I used to bring it to her where she just felt my pain in a fucked up way because I was mentally just not there. I'm arguing and like I just said earlier in the interview, like, I'm not confrontational. So every day I'm trying to find an enemy to not crash out on somebody so she might say the smallest thing and it triggered me and we start arguing and doing goofy shit when.
- [44:02]
DJ Envy
It'S like, that was stupid.
- [44:03]
G Herbo
It was silly. Like, I really should just tell her. Like, I should tell her what I'm feeling and what I'm going through. And I feel like she gave me grace because when my little brother died, she knew that tore me apart. Like, she understood it. So it's like she's just like, just let me get away with murder for real. Like, I used to come home and argue and not come home sometimes. Like, I really used to purposely not come home because I'm just up in the head. Like, I didn't. Slept in my car, in the garage, all type of. Just because I just didn't want to go up there and feel that. Cause like I said, when my little brother died, she was pregnant. So she full of emotions too. Yeah, she got a feeling.
- [44:42]
Angela Yee
She hormonal, you know?
- [44:44]
G Herbo
Yeah. So it's like, like, like, like now I definitely make it like, like a thing. Like make it my business to not put that on her and to communicate with her. Like, communication is key and she is a communicator. Like she's gonna say, she gonna say what she feel, how she feel, like back and as a man, I. I ain't never really experienced that for real, to be honest. Like, I ain't never had to really, like, just sit down and talk. You feel me? Like, she'll really make me sit down and talk about this. And I appreciate that, though, from her and her pops told me some real. I ain't gonna lie, dad. Like, me and her pops like this. And sometimes she don't even like it. Cause her dad gonna tell me there's like, beneficial to me and might not be beneficial to her.
- [45:38]
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
- [45:38]
G Herbo
You know what I'm saying?
- [45:39]
Angela Yee
Like, that's that man to man, though.
- [45:40]
G Herbo
Yeah.
- [45:40]
Podcast Host (Shopify Ad)
Yeah.
- [45:41]
G Herbo
So, like, he told me some real that told me one day, he said, bro, whatever the you got going on, leave that at the doormat before you walk in the house. Bro. Walk in the house with peace. Walk in the house. Like, you want to go in the house and see your girl and talk to your girl and be with your kids. You know what I'm saying? Like, and that shit helped me, I swear to God. Like, I literally. Some days I just go and walk in the house and I look at the doormat like, literally, like, boy, go on this motherfucker and be happy no matter what's going on. Because you got to be grateful to make it in the house. That nigga told me that shit. I swear to God, it changed my whole perspective. Like, whatever you got going on, however your day went, leave that shit at the concrete before you walk in the house. And that shit helped me.
- [46:24]
Angela Yee
I know you was happy when Ari and Tyena got cool.
- [46:28]
G Herbo
I know.
- [46:28]
Angela Yee
Because after the long back and forth and the beef and stuff, how did that make you feel to see that?
- [46:33]
G Herbo
It made me feel great. Like, amazing. For real?
- [46:36]
Angela Yee
You had nothing to do with that?
- [46:38]
G Herbo
Nah, nothing. Okay? Nothing at all. And. And the reason why it happened is because you don't. Like, you don't really play the middle. You just play right and wrong.
- [46:47]
DJ Envy
Yeah.
- [46:47]
G Herbo
You feel what I'm saying? Like, you don't play the middle. You feel what I'm saying? Like, I'm not gonna, like, shy away from my love for my woman. I'm not gonna shy away from my love for my son. Mom. You.
- [46:59]
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
- [46:59]
G Herbo
Just, like, I just want everybody to be a family.
- [47:03]
Angela Yee
And you said, we're not a blended family. We're a family.
- [47:06]
G Herbo
Yeah, yeah.
- [47:06]
Angela Yee
So everybody can call each other.
- [47:07]
G Herbo
Yeah, no, I've seen that shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've seen people say, like, oh, I love a blended family. It's like, it's just a family.
- [47:12]
Angela Yee
Yeah.
- [47:13]
G Herbo
Yeah, like the blended shit.
- [47:14]
Charlamagne Tha God
I love that you and Moneybag did a song together.
- [47:17]
G Herbo
Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
- [47:18]
Angela Yee
I love that too. How did that come about?
- [47:21]
G Herbo
We was like, in Atlanta. I was in Atlanta for my son Game, and I was talking about my show. Like, the Swerving Friendship. I was talking about it and Ari was on the phone with Bag at the time. I'm like, man, let me holler at him. Let me holler. Like, I was talking to him like, man, I'm trying to bring you out for this shit. You feel me? And he like, all right, bet, we need to do some shit real quick. Like, I'm gonna send you something, send it back. Gonna drop this shit before the show. This was like, we had like a two week deadline or some shit. Like, we did that shit quick. We sent the song. No, matter of fact, I don't even think he sent the song tripping. Like, man, we need to do some shit. We was in la, I pulled up on him, we did a song together, and then he, like, structured it, put the song together, then sent it, and I finished the song. He like, all right, Bet, we finna shoot this shit on. I think my show was on the 26th or some shit like that. We shot the video on the 20th, put that shit right out. And I brought him out to the song. So it's like, yeah, he put that play together. That was hard.
- [48:24]
Angela Yee
That was. It's a bop. So you said y' all rushed and did it?
- [48:26]
G Herbo
Yeah, and it's still a bop. That shit. We definitely rushed and did it. Like, all that shit was strategic for sure.
- [48:32]
Angela Yee
Like, did y' all have any conversations, you know, about the relationship? Y' all never even had to do that.
- [48:36]
G Herbo
Hell no. We don't even gotta do that, bro. Like, me and him ain't never had no, like, differences. Like, it was never no confusion or none of that type of shit, like, at all. Like, we ain't gotta talk about that. Cause it's just. It just is what it is.
- [48:49]
Charlamagne Tha God
I wanna ask one more question about just the grieving process, and I'll put a button on it. How have you helped Funny Marco through his grieving process? Because you killed him on his show. It's still impacting him. He was just here. He was just not talking about him. He was literally just here. When was that? Last week.
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G Herbo
Can you tell me what he said? What the did he say?
- [49:08]
Charlamagne Tha God
He just. It hurt him and he's learning from it, and he grew from it, and he had to learn to have, you know, thicker skin because of it like. You ever think about how you affected funny Marco negatively?
- [49:20]
G Herbo
Yeah, I did. I'm not gonna lie. I did. But at the same time, I didn't because. And I'm. And Marco. My man's like, me and him still talk. We didn't. I didn't apologize to him about this. And it's like. It's like what I said. What happened in the watch come out in the rinse. Like, Marco's a troll.
- [49:38]
Charlamagne Tha God
He.
- [49:38]
G Herbo
He hurt people's feelings every single day. And they called me there to hurt his feelings. I swear to God. They literally called me there. Like, me and Southside, we was drunk and all that for sure. Like, we. I think the way we did it just came off a little aggressive, because how we are is nature. Like, we street. You know what I'm saying? Like, I feel like he was a little intimidated when we did. Scared. Right. But we wasn't going through nothing, so we weren't trying to scam. They literally called us there and said, do whatever. Troll him.
- [50:08]
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
- [50:08]
G Herbo
Hurt him. Disrespect them. Talk about, like, not disrespect. I'm sorry. I'm not gonna say disrespectful. Yeah. Talk about him. Do whatever the way he do people. Yeah. They told us to flip the script, but he didn't know that. I don't think so.
- [50:20]
Angela Yee
His team said to do.
- [50:22]
G Herbo
Told us to do that. Yeah. When we did the interview, he needed.
- [50:25]
Charlamagne Tha God
To be more prepared. What did he say? I forgot the other day when he.
- [50:28]
DJ Envy
Was here now, he said he should have trolled back.
- [50:31]
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, he should have trolled back.
- [50:32]
G Herbo
But he didn't know. He was so intimidated. He didn't know whether or not that's what he supposed to. Did he supposed to troll back and just. It would have been a totally different experience. They think we came on there and on him, and we wasn't doing that. We was really having fun. We. With bro. Yeah. But he wasn't, like, ready for a to come and do that to him. Like, and when we left, his team was like, oh, we love it. It's gonna be so great. They called and asked me and Southside, do we want our own show? I swear to God. Wow. Like, y' all want your own show? We like, man, hell no. We don't do that. We don't give a About having our own show. We just did, like, they literally called us and asked us, did we want to show that we want all this, like, you feel me? And I'm like, no. But we really had fun at Night. I ain't gonna lie.
- [51:14]
DJ Envy
Of course.
- [51:15]
G Herbo
Yeah. We didn't think that it was gonna, like, had that effect on the world and on him, too. So, like, shout out. Funny. Marco, man, I with you. Like, and I told him this, though. Like, I was like, bro, man, you know we with you for real. You know what I'm saying? But, like, we definitely violated. I ain't gonna lie.
- [51:33]
Angela Yee
He said he used to just one person.
- [51:34]
G Herbo
He said he was two of y'. All. Both of y' all was jumping him. Yeah. Nah, we violated, man. I apologize again, man.
- [51:41]
Charlamagne Tha God
You got the song. Thank me. How important is it to thank yourself, man?
- [51:46]
G Herbo
Very, very important, man. And I feel like I ain't really realized that until I did that record. Like, you got to thank yourself and congratulate yourself. You feel what I'm saying? Because I'm one of them type of people that I really. Soon as I drop a project, soon as I do anything, I be on to the next. Like, I don't even listen to. Like, if I used to be that artist. Like, soon as my album dropped on Friday, Saturday, I'm playing unreleased music that I just worked on. And you gotta live in, like, you gotta grasp on, so you gotta live in it. And went legit. Helped me do that. Like, me having that type of big record and everybody just, like, congratulating me and just, like, telling me this record is this. And you know what I'm saying? This is crazy. And you got this moment, and you the hottest right now. Like, you feel what I'm saying? I never, in my career, nobody never walked up on me. Like, you the hottest out of everybody. You feel me? Niggas told me I'm their favorite rapper. Like, yeah, you. But niggas walk up to me now and be like, you the one. You the top dog. And I ain't never felt that before. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, you gotta, like, thank yourself and you gotta, like, like, live in. In it. You feel me? Like, a lot of times, and I. I said this already. A lot of rooms. I didn't used to be in them for real. Like, mentally, I was really somewhere else. Like, I really forgot a lot of my life and a lot of my career and a lot of relationships and a lot of people that I met. That was important, because mentally, I'm just thinking about some whole other.
- [53:14]
Angela Yee
Yeah.
- [53:14]
G Herbo
So it's like, you gotta grasp into it and be grateful for what you have. So that's like, thank me that record. Like, I had to deep, like, dig Deep into just, like, being grateful for what I got and thanking myself and just that I got this far. Like, I was able to change my circumstances, my family circumstances, create a family, have kids. Like, and all this was kind of strategic. Like, I was. I was one of them. Like, I wasn't having no children until I got some money and got out the streets. I just couldn't do it. Like, for real, for real. Like, I could have probably had 10 kids already. You know what I'm saying? But I was just the type of. That. I'm not doing that until I'm able to really, like, raise my kids and focus on my kids or find a woman that I cared about enough to create a family with them. You see what I'm saying? And when I think about that type of shit, just being grateful that I was able to, like, create life for real. For real. Like, see what I'm saying? So it's very important to thank yourself, and that's a real important record, for sure. For sure.
- [54:17]
Charlamagne Tha God
Are you still struggling with nightmares? Because on one chance, you say you're dealing with sleep paralysis. You know you'd be having nightmares.
- [54:24]
G Herbo
You still that bad, bro. I ain't gonna lie.
- [54:26]
Charlamagne Tha God
We say that's the hag riding you.
- [54:28]
G Herbo
What.
- [54:28]
Charlamagne Tha God
When you have the sleep paralysis, when you can't, you. You. Your eyes are open and you feel like.
- [54:34]
G Herbo
What you mean? Like the hag is a.
- [54:36]
Charlamagne Tha God
A spiritual creature, Maybe evil, depending on who you ask, but haunts you.
- [54:45]
G Herbo
I definitely believe right here. And I'm. I'm very spiritual, for sure. Like, yeah. And I. I struggle with sleep a lot, bro. Like, sleep paralysis. I have sleep paralysis a lot. Nightmares a lot. Like, sometimes my girl just wake me up and, like, you feel me? Like, I sweat in my sleep. Like, I ain't gonna lie. I. I still got a lot of healing to do. Like.
- [55:06]
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
- [55:06]
G Herbo
It's a point where I say this to my girl all the time. She think I'll be joking. Like, and that's why you do this. Like, that's why you get money and you do the you doing so you could chill. Like, I really want to be able to chill and just sleep and relax, heal and heal. Like, it's a point of my life. I want to enjoy my life. I ain't. Like, I'm trying to get enough money to quit. For real. For real. Like, when artists were like, be like, oh, yeah, you fell off. They gonna say that to death when it comes to me, because I'm stopping this. I'm gonna enjoy my family. I'm gonna enjoy my kids because I really can't sleep. Sleep. Some nights, like for real. Three, four days ago, I woke up every single hour. I told my girl she was sleep. She's sleeping like a baby. I woke up every hour cause I had five, six nightmares. I can't sleep. This is up for me. You feel me? And I still wake up and do the Breakfast Club. I still go do my shows. I still go to the studio. Like, you know what I'm saying? I still try to show up. So it's gonna be a point of my life and my career. Well, I'm quitting this shit. I need to be able to take care of everybody and go to sleep, just chill, go vac and be with my family. Like mad at you. I'm. I'm g herbo. I've only been to three, four countries. I. I have not seen the world. I want to see this.
- [56:22]
DJ Envy
But you're gonna start seeing it now because they're gonna start booking you like crazy. You gonna see.
- [56:26]
Charlamagne Tha God
I just want to say the hag feeds off the energy of the sleeping victims, so it steals their breath and then wears their skin as a disguise. Yeah, so I used that.
- [56:34]
G Herbo
Yeah, but I seen a lot of death, bro. You know how many dead bodies I've seen? Yeah, a lot. Like, I didn't see my friends die a lot.
- [56:41]
Charlamagne Tha God
You ever thought about getting saved?
- [56:44]
G Herbo
Nah, not really, to be honest. Not really. I haven't.
- [56:48]
Charlamagne Tha God
I've been thinking about it lately. I'm not, but I've been thinking about it.
- [56:51]
G Herbo
Yeah, for sure.
- [56:52]
Charlamagne Tha God
Like, why are you looking at me like that?
- [56:53]
Angela Yee
Because you've been thinking about getting saved, but you not.
- [56:57]
Charlamagne Tha God
No, I mean, I'm not saved.
- [56:59]
Angela Yee
Oh, no, I know you're not saved.
- [57:00]
DJ Envy
Yeah.
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G Herbo
He didn't say he not doing it.
- [57:03]
Charlamagne Tha God
I've been thinking about it.
- [57:04]
G Herbo
Right.
- [57:05]
Charlamagne Tha God
I just wanted to. I don't know. I'm just always looking for different ways. Define.
- [57:09]
Angela Yee
Yeah.
- [57:09]
Charlamagne Tha God
Peace.
- [57:10]
G Herbo
No, for sure. I definitely, I need it. And my, like my biggest thing, like what bring me peace for real is just being around my kids. I swear to God, number one, when I be home, like, and my girls say that and I like seeing little memes. And like when you comfortable and you at comfort, that's when you really sleep. I like I just said I got sleep. Pride don't sleep. But sometimes, like I could come home, like when I'm on the road and just that one night of sleep be everything for me. Like, for real. For real. Like, I get home and be with my girl on the Couch and be with my kids and I just fall asleep, bro. Like that just bring me so much comfort and peace. And your son be like you, always sleeping. All you do is sleep.
- [57:52]
DJ Envy
My kids say the same thing.
- [57:53]
G Herbo
All you do is sleep.
- [57:54]
DJ Envy
But that's the best. That's the best time. You feel more comfortable at home or you want to get into something off the album? What you want to hear off the album, man?
- [58:00]
G Herbo
Let's play Give it all. It's one of my favorite songs.
- [58:02]
Charlamagne Tha God
Why not?
- [58:03]
DJ Envy
We appreciate you for joining us, brother.
- [58:05]
G Herbo
Thank you so much.
- [58:05]
Charlamagne Tha God
I do have one last question before you do that.
- [58:08]
DJ Envy
Chat. Yeah, we are live, so if you got questions for G Herbal, let us know now because.
- [58:11]
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, it's too late now. Chat.
- [58:12]
G Herbo
Let's get it. Chat, but hurry up.
- [58:14]
Charlamagne Tha God
I wanted to ask you about Chicago, right? It built you, but it also caused you so much pain.
- [58:20]
G Herbo
Yeah.
- [58:21]
Charlamagne Tha God
What's your relationship with the city now?
- [58:24]
G Herbo
It's like, it's crazy. I love Chicago so much and I just had this conversation with Mick yesterday. He like, bro, we about to neglect that. Like we not even going there on tour or nothing. Like they gotta really miss you. For real, for real. Because I go there so much and. And I'll be feeling comfortable because it just, it's home for me. You see what I'm saying? Like, and I still, of course, like, I already, you know, I'm gonna be on my own, my head on swivel regardless, you found. So I'm always take precaution and do all of that. My relation with Chicago is my mother won't leave. You know what I'm saying? Like, she won't leave. So it's like my heart is still there some, like not even some days. A lot of that. I go to Chicago and I don't see my mom because she hang with me in la. Like she'd be with me out of there. But my heart's still in Chicago. My mom there, my aunties there, my grandmother there, like my friends there. So I go there and I enjoy myself. I go to restaurants, I do this and like I really move in Chicago. Like probably nobody else. For real? For real. There's not many artists in Chicago, especially as big as I am at my level, that go outside and do the shit that I do in Chicago. I go to clubs every time I'm there, I go to restaurants, I don't sit in my hotel, I go outside in Chicago. And I just did that big ass concert and had all them artists there. And I went to three spots after that. They didn't like, my team didn't want me to go outside.
- [59:48]
Angela Yee
They saying this in the chat now. You be everywhere when you there. Love you.
- [59:51]
Charlamagne Tha God
No, but they said, top five Chicago rappers in Chicago love hero like we love.
- [59:56]
G Herbo
Sure. Like, we went to. We did the show, and I went to three places. I went to a bowling alley, a club, and another club. And it was peaceful. Like, it was no nothing. Like, I had everybody. I had Polo there. Bad came outside. Ari came outside. Doug came outside. 21 came outside. Everybody came outside. And it's like that, really. Like, it's smooth, it's dangerous. But Chicago is a. A great place, for sure.
- [60:25]
Charlamagne Tha God
Chicago love you like they love D roll. They said when they get. When you get. When you get another. When we doing another four minutes of hell or when they get another four.
- [60:32]
G Herbo
Minutes, I'm gonna definitely do it. I ain't gonna lie. I'll be saying I'm done. But I definitely. Like, that's. That's something that I just gotta do. Like, you know how like. Like, like. Like t Grizzly do the robberies. I gotta keep doing four minutes of hills for sure.
- [60:45]
DJ Envy
All right, well, we appreciate you for joining us. Make sure you pick up herbo album this week. And it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
- [60:52]
G Herbo
Hold up.
- [60:53]
Charlamagne Tha God
Every day I wake up.
- [60:55]
G Herbo
Wake your ass up. The Breakfast Club. You all finish or y' all done?
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