Best of full interview: Gary Owen Defends Himself Against Loren LoRosa & Jess Hilarious, Talks Nate Jackson, Special + More

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Breakfast Club – Best Of Full Interview: Gary Owen Defends Himself Against Loren LoRosa & Jess Hilarious, Talks Nate Jackson, Special + More

Episode Date: December 30, 2025
Hosts: DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious (remote references), Charlamagne Tha God (not present), Lauren LaRosa, Angela Yee
Guest: Gary Owen
Podcast: The Breakfast Club

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Episode Overview

This lively episode features comedian Gary Owen as he joins The Breakfast Club to address social media "beefs" with Lauren LaRosa and Jess Hilarious, clarify tensions with fellow comedian Nate Jackson, discuss changes in his career strategy, and open up about his personal life—including a high-profile divorce and its aftermath. The episode balances sharp wit, candid reflections, and playful banter, highlighting the blurred lines between genuine conflict and manufactured drama in today’s comedy and social media landscape.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Gary Owen’s Viral Generosity and Navigating Social Media [04:41 – 06:08]

• Story of Compassion: Owen recounts helping a fan whose wife recently passed away, emphasizing he only helped because the fan didn't ask for financial support but simply sought a photo:
  • “That’s all he wanted… I took care of the urn, then gave him more because he had to take off work for a month.” (Gary Owen, 05:14)
• Downside of Visibility: Gary notes that, after going public, his inbox was filled with new financial requests:
  • “You see the good and the bad side of social media… my DM’s got overrun. ‘Well, since you helped him, help me?’” (Gary Owen, 05:28)

2. Clips, Content Creation, and Comedy Business [06:28 – 07:52]

• Rise of Daily Content: Gary explains his new momentum online is the result of hiring a full-time camera person and a sharper editor, inspired by comedian Nate Jackson’s approach.
  • “Now I got the right team… the clips are better, they’re actually capturing it and editing it correctly.” (Gary Owen, 06:54)
• Content's Role: He underscores that he’s always done crowd work; now, the difference is having it consistently captured and edited for social media.

3. Addressing On-Air “Beefs” with Lauren LaRosa & Jess Hilarious [07:53 – 14:21]

• LaRosa's “Not Checking For Gary Owen” Comment: Gary recalls a prior episode where Lauren threw shade at him, joking about not being a real celebrity.
  • LaRosa responds: “I have a tendency to say things, and I don’t think much of it… I thought I was saying that it was clear what Kendrick Lamar was talking about.” (Lauren LaRosa, 09:34)
  • Gary notes he never takes social media drama personally: “I just want content. I want you to react… All my beefs are fake, you know.” (Gary Owen, 10:17)
  • Both agree the online sparring helps both their profiles: “It helped out… now look, then they going to clip this up, and we’re still riding that Kendrick train beef.” (Gary Owen, 10:34)
• Dynamic with Jess Hilarious: Discussion turns to a misunderstanding involving Damon Williams, and Gary’s penchant for gently ribbing fellow comics for content.

4. Strategy, Platform, and Industry Frustrations [16:16 – 19:27]

• Netflix Special Frustration: Gary addresses why he doesn’t have a Netflix special despite his popularity.
  • “What did you do to an executive at Netflix? …What did you do where they are not reaching out to you?” (DJ Envy, 17:06)
  • Gary, unfazed by others’ success: “I’m not ever bitter towards another guy getting a Netflix special. I’m doing fine, I’m selling out everywhere in advance.” (Gary Owen, 17:44)
• YouTube and Consistency: He reveals daily posting is the key to growth:
  • “It was judges and it was daytime talk show hosts… they’re on every day. That’s why. So I go, I gotta post a clip every day.” (Gary Owen, 17:50)
  • His current webman, Adam, is crucial to his process.

5. Tensions and Inspirations: Nate Jackson “Beef” [20:03 – 24:11]

• Accusations of Stealing Material and Format:
  • Nate Jackson raised that Owen copied his use of jerseys and clip compilations, prompting Gary to clarify:
  • “Here’s Nate’s issue. He reads comments too much and takes them to heart… I just happened to wear an Astros jersey. To say I stole a jersey, I was like, huh?” (Gary Owen, 20:16)
  • Gary openly admits learning from Jackson’s producer-driven approach: “If I took anything from Nate, it’s work ethic and, you know, invested in yourself—full-time camera guys on the road.” (Gary Owen, 22:54)

6. Adapting to Social Media—and Getting Paid [24:11 – 25:41]

• Learning Monetization: The crew discusses discovering and maximizing TikTok’s and Facebook’s earning potential.
  • “Do you know that they monetize it, you get a check from TikTok every month?” (DJ Envy, 25:06)
  • “Facebook’s for the money.” (Gary Owen, 25:33)

7. Personal Life: Divorce, Family, and Reconciliation [36:21 – 53:44]

• Estranged Family and Emotional Healing:
  • Gary reveals a surprise reconnection with his son after three years of silence, starting with a phone call over a work issue.
    • “The first thing he said was, ‘Dude, I know we got a lot to work on… but I really need your help with this problem right now.’” (Gary Owen, 38:10)
  • On explaining the divorce to his kids:
    • “I was able to be honest with him… I think they probably think they had something to do with it. I was like, nah, it had nothing to do with you.” (Gary Owen, 39:31)
  • Still estranged from his daughter, Gary hopes they’ll reconnect before major milestones.
• Comedy and Divorce:
  • He jokes about how material from his divorce even made it into court mediation.
    • “If I’m talking about Jess, I’m talking about Lauren—it’s all content. Even in the divorce… it was content.” (Gary Owen, 50:55)
  • Advises listeners getting divorced to be cordial for mutual benefit—lawyers will “play you” for as long as possible:
    • “This is when I knew, these lawyers are playing us... Get to a point where you’re cordial with your ex, and you guys decide what you want to do that’s fair to everybody.” (Gary Owen, 51:11)

8. White Privilege in Real Life: The Car Robbery Story [41:08 – 48:31]

• Self-Deprecating Anecdote: Gary humorously shares how his naive trust led to being robbed—leaving a cash payout in his car at a gym for 45 minutes.
  • “Dude, that white privilege was kicking in that day. I thought, I’m good.” (Gary Owen, 42:06)
• Houston’s “Juggin’” Phenomenon: Police confirm his case was typical of an increasingly common pattern where thieves follow people from banks.
  • “He clearly follows you out of the bank—it’s called Juggin’ in Houston…” (Gary Owen, 44:21)
• Silver Lining: Insurance savings by consolidating after the robbery:
  • “I just saved money on my insurance… look at God. Come 2030, Gary’s ahead.” (Gary Owen, 46:32)

9. Touring Success and Resiliency [50:12 – 54:18]

• Owen highlights his continued success at selling out live shows, adding more dates when possible—underscoring his sustained relevance and audience loyalty.
  • “Atlanta next week—sold out. We did add a show… in two weeks, I got eleven shows in D.C., they’re sold out.” (Gary Owen, 50:20)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Beef for Content:

  • “All my beefs are fake, you know.” (Gary Owen, 10:46)
  • “I’m the most respectful, like, beef person… It’s all content.” (Gary Owen, 14:25)

• Industry Insights:

  • “Judges and daytime talk show hosts… they’re on every day… so I go, I gotta post a clip every day.” (Gary Owen, 17:50)

• On Social Media Monetization:

  • “Do you know that they monetize it, that you get a check from TikTok every month?” (DJ Envy, 25:06)

• On Family Reconciliation:

  • “You kinda replay the years lost in your brain, but then where we’re at now when we’re good—yeah, I didn’t miss a wedding… So I think that would be tough.” (Gary Owen, 39:31)

• On Being Robbed:

  • “Dude, that white privilege was kicking in that day. I thought, I’m on, I’m good.” (Gary Owen, 42:06)
  • “Silver lining… in five years, I’m ahead. Thank you for robbing me, because I just saved money on my insurance.” (Gary Owen, 46:29)

• On Divorce and Lawyers:

  • “These lawyers are playing us. We were held up for a couple weeks over life insurance… I’m dead, I don’t care what it is.” (Gary Owen, 51:11; 51:39)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Gary helps fan after wife’s death – 05:14
• Lauren LaRosa “beef” explained – 09:13
• Jess Hilarious + Damon Williams incident – 11:17
• Gary on getting a Netflix special/YouTube strategy – 17:06
• Nate Jackson “jersey” controversy – 20:16
• TikTok/Facebook monetization discussion – 25:06
• Reconnecting with his son post-divorce – 38:00
• Car-jacking story (white privilege joke) – 42:06
• Divorce mediation/lawyer games advice – 51:11
• Touring success, “No S” on Gary Owen – 50:12

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Tone and Essence

The episode’s tone is irreverent, insightful, and full of mutual roasting—true to The Breakfast Club’s signature style. Gary Owen keeps things candid and comedic even when discussing serious matters, reflecting both vulnerability and a comedian’s instinct to turn pain into punchlines. The discussion with the hosts is playful but honest, with room for introspection and growth in both personal and professional arenas.

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Summary

This episode is a must-listen for fans of comedy, social media, and real-life redemption stories. Gary Owen shows how a comedian’s wit doesn’t just fill an auditorium—it can defuse drama, mend fences, and even find a silver lining in a car robbery. Whether discussing industry beefs, the challenges of amicable divorce, or the business of going viral, Owen gives listeners an unfiltered look at life on—and off—the comedy stage.

Transcript

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[Gary Owen]

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[DJ Envy]

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[Gary Owen]

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[DJ Envy]

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[Gary Owen]

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Hold up.

[Gary Owen]

Every day I wake up. Wake your ass up. The Breakfast Club.

[DJ Envy]

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne the guy. We are the breakfast club. Lauren LaRosa is here as well. We got a special guest in the building.

[Angela Yee]

Yes, we do.

[DJ Envy]

One of my favorite comedians, ladies and gentlemen.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Why is not one of ours?

[DJ Envy]

I don't know, but one of my favorite comedians, ladies and gentlemen, Gary Owens here, ladies. Yes, Gary Owen.

[Gary Owen]

Let's get it. Ratings are about to skyrocket.

[Angela Yee]

I already know what's up, y'.

[Gary Owen]

All.

[DJ Envy]

Well, how you feeling? First and foremost?

[Gary Owen]

How's everything? Everything's great. No complaints.

[Angela Yee]

I've been.

[DJ Envy]

I've been really watching your clips the last couple of. The last couple of weeks. I've been watching your clips and I just want to say salute to you. I've seen a couple of clips where one Guy. Which was kind of weird. I thought it was kind of weird. His wife died.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

And he still went to see Gary Owen.

[Angela Yee]

Yes, Two days. Two days later.

[DJ Envy]

Two days later, yeah. Because he was supposed to go with his wife and his wife died and he still went, which was surprising, but he went. And Gary, you decided to take care of the funeral?

[Gary Owen]

Course, the. Well, they cremated her. They cremated. I took care of the urn. Then I gave him. I gave him more because he had to take off work for a month. But he didn't. I don't think he had a. A GoFundMe. So he got that. And that got over 14,000. Wow. So, yeah. But the reason, it just was kind of spur of the moment. But it was more. He didn't ask because then you see the good and the bad side of social media do something like that. Because I had. My DM's got overrun. Well, since you helped him, help me, can you do this? Can you? All he sent me a message was he told me that his wife passed. They. And then when I saw his page, they go to a lot of comedy shows. That was their thing. So they got pictures of all kinds of comedians. And so he's. I'm going to go. Because she wanted. She. We were supposed to go. And so that's why I took care of it. Because he didn't ask. He said, man, I don't know if you do meet and greets, but I really like to get a picture with you. That's all he wanted.

[DJ Envy]

That's all he wanted. Yeah, yeah. I could even tell even when he was asking, he was stuttering like, I'm not here for this, but thank you. And I wanted to know, you know, because you pick on. I don't want to say pick on, but you will call people out at a show. Have you ever called out somebody and it was wrong? Like, I've done it up here all the time. But like, so what did your mom think? And they'd be like, my mom's dead. Like, it's happened a bunch of times. So has that happened to you?

[Gary Owen]

Yeah, yeah. You just be like, ah, way to bring the show down. If you had a commentary, you're there to laugh. But that's going to happen. You know, I mean, like that people think I'm just doing like crowd work. Sometimes I get interrupted. And we're taping it now. So I finally got a full time camera person with me, which I should have did a long time ago.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, that's why I'm seeing so many Clips now.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah. Well, I got the right editor, too.

[DJ Envy]

Okay.

[Gary Owen]

Okay. I mean, I had camera guys, but then I. I'd be like, why did you stop it there? Now I got. It took trial and error. Now I got the right team. So that's why I think you're seeing me more in the algorithms. And the clips are better. Cause they're actually capturing it and they're editing it correctly. You know what I mean?

[Angela Yee]

So you were always doing it. You just got a team to actually capture it, edit it, and put it together.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah. Thanks to Nate Jackson.

[Angela Yee]

Okay.

[Gary Owen]

I saw him here last week.

[DJ Envy]

We'll get it to Nate Jackson. But also, Lorna LaRosa that's sitting to the right of you, threw a shot at you.

[Gary Owen]

Just you being here.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I didn't throw a shot.

[DJ Envy]

There was another white comedian here, and I think she was trying to pit two white comedians against each other.

[Gary Owen]

I saw that.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Whoa. Is the white comedian.

[DJ Envy]

Yes. And she just threw a shot at you for no reason and we didn't. Let's listen to the audio. Know what's going on.

[Gary Owen]

But they brought up the Kendrick Lamar thing, and all of a sudden, the girl that fills in for Jess, Hilarious. That was there when I was there a few months ago. They said, you know, Kendrick has never really said who he's talking about. Andrew's like, how do we even know Kendrick was talking about me now? Envy, Charlemagne, and Schultz, like, we only know who Kendrick was talking about. He could have been talking about Gary Owen. And literally, the girl goes, anybody checking for Gary Owen? I tell you, this girl, I can't remember her name. I don't know what her issue was with me is, but I'd be like, what? How did I catch a strain? Anybody checking for Gary Owen? And I'm like, well, I just did 12 shows in Baltimore. Somebody checking for me. Word I love. Sold out Nashville this weekend. Somebody checking for me. Yeah, you can tell she, like, takes her hip hop real serious and the lyrics real serious. I could tell when I was there. I go, so she's like, you know, Andrew, how can you say that? And, you know, you got almost. He almost was defending Kendrick, but I was like, oh, she takes those lyrics serious. Takes her hip hop serious. It reminded me. It was like when Tyrese got mad at me because I said of a. I said a joke. Like, in her mind, I'm not a real celeb. I'm not a real entertainer. She doesn't take me serious. Yeah. She doesn't feel. I bet you in her mind, if she was Booking the show. She wouldn't have me on. I bet you in her mind she goes, no, no, no, no, no, no. Why are you like that? Why?

[Lauren LaRosa]

First, first, before we ask me questions, do you know my name now?

[Gary Owen]

Yeah. Lauren LaRosa.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Okay.

[Angela Yee]

You didn't know it then.

[Gary Owen]

From Delaware. Went to Delaware State.

[Ad Break / Announcer]

Okay.

[Gary Owen]

Came from tmz.

[Lauren LaRosa]

People come for me. They act like they don't know my.

[Gary Owen]

Name, but I knew your name. That was a.

[DJ Envy]

Throw the shot at him.

[Gary Owen]

I saw why he did that to me.

[Lauren LaRosa]

First of all, it wasn't a shot.

[DJ Envy]

What you are. I.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Okay. So I have a tendency.

[Gary Owen]

It was a shot.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Can you be quiet?

[DJ Envy]

All right.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I have a tendency to say things, and I don't think much of it. But then I'm realizing that people. It hits people differently because I thought I was saying that. During that time, it was very clear what Kendrick Lamar was talking about, because Andrew Schultz, in the conversation that he had was all over the news. And then the Kendrick Lamar stuff happened.

[DJ Envy]

So Gary Owen will be all over the news. Gary Owen, don't be all over things.

[Gary Owen]

I had a show with Ken. Andrew's never worked with Kendrick at the same time.

[Lauren LaRosa]

True. Y' all know what I'm talking about. Like, it was very clear at the time what was happening. It wasn't a dig at you. It was like a. I thought we all saw the same thing.

[Gary Owen]

I saw, like, when you said that was the. Got my.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You really don't think I think you a celebrity?

[Gary Owen]

No, I just want content. I want you to react. It's me.

[DJ Envy]

I know.

[Gary Owen]

I'm me. Lauren. I don't take none of this personal. And if I'm doing a rant, I'm like, yeah, they'll probably pick this up.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah.

[Gary Owen]

And sure enough, took that bait.

[Lauren LaRosa]

No. I mean, no.

[Gary Owen]

I saw you in your car.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Views was good.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah. It helped out. Help both of us out. Now, look, then they're going to clip this up, and we're still riding that Kendrick train beef.

[Lauren LaRosa]

No, you were like my first celebrity or not celebrity beef.

[Gary Owen]

Somewhat.

[Angela Yee]

I am.

[Gary Owen]

All my beefs are fake, you know.

[Angela Yee]

Oh, my God.

[Gary Owen]

The Michael Blackson one was fake. This. This thing we're about to do with Nate's fake.

[DJ Envy]

Well, before we get to. Before we get to Nate and I don't see. I don't know what your problem is. Gary Owen with black women. Black women just disrespect you. Then to the left of you. You and Jess. Hilarious. Went back and forth because.

[Gary Owen]

Did we?

[DJ Envy]

Yes.

[Angela Yee]

I ain't never say Nothing to this nigga.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It wasn't a back. It was a. I never came back.

[Angela Yee]

And I. And I don't know why this white man decided to attack me.

[Gary Owen]

Let's listen. Me. Yeah, Jess, hilarious. Went to Detroit Mike Evans Comedy Club, which Mike Epps had nothing to do with it. I think his name is on it. But I guess it just wasn't run well the weekend she was there. She goes on the Brush Club, and she goes, you know, they told me Damon Wayans is going to be on the show. I get there is Damon Williams. I don't know no damn Damon Williams. And I'm going, jess, everybody knows Damon Williams in the comedy world. I don't know why she took that moment to dig on Damon. Like, I don't know no damn Damon Williams. Every comic knows Damon Williams out of Chicago.

[Angela Yee]

I'm from Baltimore. I ain't from no damn Chicago.

[Gary Owen]

You don't know Dame Williams?

[Angela Yee]

Yeah, I do. Now. I know who he is now.

[Gary Owen]

He's a good dude.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah, yeah, Obviously he's a good dude. But I met him one time backstage, right? We was on the same show. I meet so many people I'm on shows with. You know what I mean?

[Gary Owen]

So I think it was the dam.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah, it was the dam.

[Gary Owen]

You said, I don't know Damon Williams. I don't know no damn Damon Williams.

[DJ Envy]

She was more taking her frustration out on the nightclub.

[Angela Yee]

It was just more so. And it was. You weren't the only one. It was a lot of people, I think he called and asked to make videos to say, like, yo, come on, shorty. Ruining my credibility. I'm valid. I'm in these shoes. I've been, like, a pioneer in this shit. Can y' all please let her know who I am? And it was you amongst other, you know, OG comics that made the video and said it. But I'm like, yo, I really did not know who he was until videos were. No pictures were posted. A couple pictures were posted from one night at a club. We were on D Ray show. Shout out to D Ray.

[Gary Owen]

That was the New Year's Eve stuff, right?

[Ad Break / Announcer]

Yes.

[Angela Yee]

And I did. I swear, I meet so many people. Like, I just did not remember, oh, that's Damon Williams. Okay, cool. Even still, only met him one time now. My bad. But, like, I'm not gonna say sorry because I didn't know who he was by name. And every comic does not know Damian Williams. Every comic does not know me. Every comic don't even know your ass.

[Ad Break / Announcer]

Shocking.

[Angela Yee]

Every comic. Everybody don't know everybody now, you know, some people just like, duh, we know who that is. You know what I mean? But it's like, I. I did not know.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah, well, he ran with it, and like I said, it's all content.

[Angela Yee]

He did.

[Gary Owen]

I didn't. I didn't say.

[Ad Break / Announcer]

He actually.

[Gary Owen]

Huh? No, no, no. I did. On my side. I like David.

[DJ Envy]

So you just jumped in the beef? You didn't even call your ass.

[Gary Owen]

Listen, I'm very. Listen, I'm very strategic with what I say. You don't see me calling them out their name. You don't see me saying they should get fired. You don't see me saying they're not good at their job. I don't ever. I'm like, anybody check for Gary Owen? You know who damn Damon Williams is? And then I just keep it moving. I'm like, they're gonna respond. I literally go to my phone, be like, oh, yeah, Lauren did it. Exactly. When I go on, Jess is gonna bring this up.

[Angela Yee]

And you know what's crazy? When you did that, when you posted the video, somebody was like, why Tommy from power gonna make a video talking.

[Gary Owen]

About, you know what they were.

[Angela Yee]

I said, tommy from Power. Tommy from power probably don't know. No. Damn. Damn. But I was like, you know what? That's Gary.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Angela Yee]

So boom.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah.

[Angela Yee]

See, now we're talking about, oh, damn.

[Gary Owen]

Emmy gonna get the smoke. You get smoke. You better get the smoke. I'm the most respectful, like, beef person, Jess. I like her. Lauren. She's good at her job.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You didn't say that.

[Gary Owen]

Huh?

[DJ Envy]

He did.

[Angela Yee]

He said you take the hip hop very seriously.

[Lauren LaRosa]

That was a dish. You didn't say I was good at my job. You said, I take my hip hop very seriously. Like, that was like a.

[DJ Envy]

He said, you know, your name.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Exactly.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah, yeah, that was. That was. Yeah, that was on purpose.

[Lauren LaRosa]

If you think I'm good at my job, you could say, now, are you.

[Gary Owen]

Good at your job?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Thank you.

[Gary Owen]

I think you add something to the show. You know what I mean? It's good to have a little antagonist every now and then.

[Lauren LaRosa]

But what does that do for you, though, at where you are? Because, like, wow.

[DJ Envy]

For me.

[Lauren LaRosa]

No, a real question.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Wow.

[Gary Owen]

It's fun.

[Lauren LaRosa]

No. Where you are.

[Gary Owen]

Can we have fun in this?

[Lauren LaRosa]

No, I'm just saying where you are. Meaning. So when I. When you said I didn't think you were a celebrity, I was like, what? I've been watching you. My household has been watching you forever. I do think you're a celebrity. I'm saying, where you are. As if, like, you. You're at a point where, like, that type of trolling. Do you need to do that?

[Gary Owen]

I don't think it was trolling. I like the Breakfast Club. So I chime in.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You know, you're so commentating.

[Gary Owen]

Commentating, but same thing you're doing.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, but my. I feel like my comment, like you're. You're here saying those weren't your true feelings. If I say something, that's really how I feel.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah, well, we're different.

[DJ Envy]

Gary's fake.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah, I'm completely fake on the Internet.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes, that's what I'm saying.

[Gary Owen]

I mean, I did one of my specials is literally called hashtag doing what I do. Because I go, I'm lying. If I do the hashtag, I'm lying. I've taken pictures in front of yachts. I wasn't on the yacht. I was lying. You know?

[Angela Yee]

So that's where Bow Wow got all that fake shit from.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah, probably.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Meow.

[Gary Owen]

Huh?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Did you go at Bow Wow?

[Gary Owen]

That's where I got it from.

[DJ Envy]

That's where I got it.

[Gary Owen]

I go from the best. When he was on a private plane, I go, that's a good idea. Yeah.

[Angela Yee]

So you got your comedy special, Gary Owen. No.

[DJ Envy]

You got the one on Netflix.

[Gary Owen]

No. You know that's a lie.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You gotta do a video about Instagram.

[Angela Yee]

Cause he just shy.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm like, you ain't on Netflix.

[Angela Yee]

But, yo, so do you really? Does it really grind your G? What people call you grind your G? Yeah, I mean, he's one.

[Gary Owen]

When they put an S on my.

[Angela Yee]

Name, when people say Gary Owens, is that a thing?

[Gary Owen]

Not. I don't think the public, but I think when a promoter hires me and you put on the flyer, I'm like, dude, you put the wrong name on the flyer. The funny. Like, it just happened last week, they did some promo video about some city I'm coming to, and it was Gary Owens. I go, bro. And he's like, why aren't you reposting it? I go, because you got the name wrong. They don't do it to nobody else. You don't see Bruce. Bruce's.

[DJ Envy]

No.

[Gary Owen]

You and your buttons, earthquakes.

[DJ Envy]

Just hilarious Novys that do it. Now, you know, on a serious note, you are funny. You sell out shows all the time. You sell out specials all the time.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

What did you do to an executive at Netflix? Did you bang somebody's wife? Did you bang somebody's man? Like, what did you do where they are not reaching out to you? I don't know it's ridiculous now. Come on.

[Gary Owen]

I know, I. But you know what? It's been. People think, like, I got all this. These special. All these networks. Not. It was. BT had a good relationship with them when they were doing comedy. And then Showtime, I had a good relationship with them. So Showtime stopped doing comedy specials. So it pretty much. There's three buyers right now. Hulu, Amazon, and Netflix. Right. So I don't know. You asked me. I don't know.

[DJ Envy]

You see comedians getting special, that you feel like, he's not better than me, he's not better than me.

[Gary Owen]

I think we all think we're better than everybody else. If we're being honest. We're like, but I would. I'm not ever bitter towards another guy getting a Netflix special. I'm like, yeah, that's fine, because I'm doing fine. Like, I'm selling out everywhere in advance. You know what I mean? So I'm. YouTube's a. I finally figured. Figured it out with YouTube, I said, who was the highest paid people on TV? It was judges and it was daytime talk show hosts. And I was like, why? Because they're on every day. That's why. You knew Jerry Springer. Jerry Springer was on once a week. Week. He wouldn't have been. So I go, I gotta post a clip every day. I have to take over people's phones and I have to post good clips. Once I figured that out, I go, it just went. And this is all in the last, like, three months. And I can tell it just went because even my guy Adam, who's. He's like, slash opener. And he's also my web guy. It was the best DM I ever answered. This guy DM me like 2 years ago and said, hey, I'm just starting out doing stand up. You know, I've been watching you forever. And I said, I looked at his page.

[DJ Envy]

Who does your clips?

[Gary Owen]

He goes, I do it myself. I said, you can come down to a guest spot. He's at the West Palm Beach Improv. I go, if you film me and let me see how the clips look. And me. And it's been seamless ever since. Took a while for me to bring him on, like full time, but now.

[DJ Envy]

But you just hire him for the clips.

[Gary Owen]

No, he's very funny and he takes the craft serious. Like, even when he's not with me, he's on stage every night. He's open mic and he's. I'm like, dude, you're on stage again. So he takes the crab serious. And I love the way he edits me and just. It's just. It's seamless. So I. I'll even call him, be like, that. That clip wasn't funny. Take down everybody or it's too short or, you know, but we work. We were good together. But that's what. That's what's happened over the last, like, three months. We finally was like. We made a decision. Every day, we gotta post a clip.

[Ad Break / Announcer]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

You know, it's worse because I. I could tell the difference.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah. So he's a comedian.

[Gary Owen]

He's a comedian named Adam Fink, and.

[Angela Yee]

He is a videographer, and he does.

[Gary Owen]

He came from, like, doing rap videos. He was, like, working with Big Sean and some other people. And so working with me is great. He goes, dude, there's less weed.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah.

[Gary Owen]

He goes, I'm getting paid on time. No offense. I got paid, but I have to ask. You know what I mean? Hey, can't get my money. The video's over. The song's number two.

[Angela Yee]

Everybody's high.

[DJ Envy]

And what happened with your and Nate Jackson? So you and Nate Jackson. Y do well. Y used to do a podcast together.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

And he. He alluded that you might have stole some of his material.

[Gary Owen]

I did not steal nobody's material. Me and Nate, Jack, you seen us.

[Angela Yee]

No, not.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Not material, but it was like the jersey. It was the concept.

[Gary Owen]

Here's Nate's issue. He reads comments too much and takes him to heart. And so I'm sure in his brain, two people said, gary wore a jersey, and I did. I live in Houston. I had an Astros jersey. I put it on one night. I thought nothing of it. My first headshot was in a jersey. So I was like to say I stole a jersey. I was looking at Nate, like. And then I know Nate puts out a lot of clips. I didn't know he does, like, a monthly thing because he puts out so much. So I was sitting here going, huh? I said, I'm gonna get all these cities. We're gonna clip it up. And I said, on the first of the month, we'll do whatever city I was in. Like, in Baltimore, we'll do that, and we'll do. I'm going to call it off the Dome. So Nick, I guess he's a podcast when he goes, hey, man, I got a beef because you put on a jersey, and then you put on the Best of and you called off the Dome. I go, and. And then he was like, man, you know, I do a compilation, and I wear jerseys in every city. I said, yo, so you. You Gotta. You can't wear jerseys is that we're saying right now, you know, So I just think he read the comments and then, I don't know. We're good. Like he said, we're good. I just, I think he shouldn't read the comments as much because I, I read the comments. I don't take them personal.

[DJ Envy]

This is what he said for people that don't know, so we can have a clear understanding what Nate said when he was here. I rock with Gary. I have no, I have no malice.

[Gary Owen]

You know what I'm saying? And so he good, but not.

[DJ Envy]

But this is. And, and so I have noticed that as I'm up in the Pacific Northwest.

[Gary Owen]

Fighting for ways to be an innovator and stay relevant from way the fuck up up there and off the grid, that sometimes people come up and they're like, oh, that is. That's the sauce. You can't.

[DJ Envy]

I can't protect that.

[Gary Owen]

Whether he comes close to me and does it or stays away from me and does it.

[DJ Envy]

If somebody sees a editing style or.

[Gary Owen]

A wave or, I don't know, a.

[DJ Envy]

Dress or a way, somebody walks to talk and it's working. Astrology, go ahead. There's nothing you could do. He from. He from there. Well, he from Ohio, but.

[Gary Owen]

Ohio. He lived this. Envy is wild.

[Angela Yee]

Crazy. Envy is.

[Gary Owen]

No, but I. I wore. I wore an XL jersey. Nate's not wearing an XL jersey.

[DJ Envy]

You're stupid.

[Gary Owen]

My Astros with extra large. Nate's not wearing an extra large Astro jersey. If I would have wore a triple X. I stole it.

[Lauren LaRosa]

That's me.

[Gary Owen]

It's not me. Is it me?

[Angela Yee]

He's wearing a triple X. Oh, is.

[Lauren LaRosa]

That a joke or. That's like a real feeling.

[Gary Owen]

I just want to. I want him to see it and I want him to react.

[Angela Yee]

Okay, that shit was funny just now.

[DJ Envy]

So y' all don't do the podcast anymore? Now he says it's timing. Is it timing or no?

[Gary Owen]

It really was. Like when I did his club last year, I said, yo, he's. Because he's. He's an impressive guy. And if I took anything from Nate, it's work ethic and, you know, invested in yourself. So the full time camera guys that are on the road with you, I said, I gotta start doing that. You know, I'll be the first one to admit. Like, I was probably. I saw Bill Brown here and he was like, I take care of my people. I make sure they're paid well. And I, When I hear conversation, I go, yeah, I don't want People working for me struggling. So I make sure everybody's well compensated. When I saw Nate taking his camera guys on the road, I go, I got. I got to do that. And Nate's the one that told me, you should have the camera guys with you at all times. So if I took anything from him, it's that. So the podcast away, because he does live in Tacoma. It's far. And I'm going up there once a month for like, two, three days, and we're busting out five, six episodes. And so it was just. It was a lot. It was taxing, and we weren't, you know, it just. He got busy, I got busy, and I was like, dude, this is a lot. And we both agreed. You're la, I'm Houston.

[Angela Yee]

Oh, you're Houston. And he's washing. Oh, yeah.

[Gary Owen]

But he's got his own studio, which is impressive. I was like, yeah, this is. He's. He's like a mini, mini Tyler Perry going on over there. Yeah, okay. Yeah, he's got his own spot he can do, and he runs his merch out of there, and he's got, like three people in cubicles just cutting. Cutting up his clips.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah.

[Gary Owen]

So if I took anything from Nate, it's that. But no, like I said, good. I don't take nothing personal. You know what I mean? I just think he got a couple comments, and then he was like, hey, wait a minute. I do this because, like, Charlemagne's got a podcast. He wasn't the first one to do a podcast. Somebody did a podcast, saw there's money in it, saw that you could build stuff and you go with it, you know, Matt Rife, I didn't know I had a Tick Tock. And then I remember I was in Atlanta and the club owner there, Gary Abdul, I saw Matt Rife and he was sold out, like, month in advance. I go, matt Rife sold out already. He goes, tick tock, bro. He went nuts. I called my web people, I go, dude, do I got a Tick Tock? They go, you got 600, 000 followers. I didn't know I had a Tick Tock. They had already had it. And my clips was up there, and I was like, oh, I got one. Yeah. So now I make sure there's, like, Instagram, YouTube. I make sure I'm active in my Tick Tock. But where'd I get that from? Matt Rife took off.

[DJ Envy]

Do you know that they monetize it, that you get a check from Tick Tock every month? Okay.

[Gary Owen]

Crazy. You know what?

[Angela Yee]

Because Envy Just put me on today. I didn't realize that I had like, that I could monetize Tick tock. I never posted on my average 300, 000 views. I literally had somebody running it. I never was on TikTok. I never been on Twitter, any of that. I just run Instagram. Right. So when Envy came in here a couple weeks ago, like, yo, are you monetizing? I'm like, no, I didn't know you can make. I didn't know I could make money.

[Gary Owen]

Off Facebook's for the money.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah, right. But he told me that. And so now I'm working on all my, you know, social media.

[Gary Owen]

You stole that.

[Angela Yee]

You stole that, right?

[Gary Owen]

No, no, I'm saying you're a thief.

[Angela Yee]

Obviously.

[DJ Envy]

Obviously.

[Gary Owen]

You know what? Damon Williams has a tick Tock.

[Angela Yee]

Shut up. He actually should have off that whole moment. He should have had a who is Damon Williams Tour so he could tell people who didn't know.

[Gary Owen]

One thing. I will say he maximized. I think that was. We say, like, how could Jess do that? But that was like the best thing for. For him at that time. It went everywhere.

[Angela Yee]

You know, you welcome.

[Gary Owen]

It's like Angel Reese, the best thing she ever did was do the ring thing to Caitlin Clark.

[Ad Break / Announcer]

Of course.

[Gary Owen]

Because she's the villain.

[DJ Envy]

That's right.

[Gary Owen]

You know, because WMA is kind of boring.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

But now every time they play, it's sold out.

[Gary Owen]

But when angel and Caitlin play, you watch that thing.

[Angela Yee]

They went from Angel Reese doing that, you know, to the.

[Lauren LaRosa]

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[Gary Owen]

What a matchup we got, y'. All. This is that classic HBCU vibe. Non stop action. The band is rocking and the crowd lit. Chance echo drum beat everybody showing that school pride. A game like this. Yeah, it calls for an ice cold Coca Cola. Ah, crisp and refreshing. That's a game changer right there. Mmm. Yeah, that taste always hits the right note. Just like the band at halftime. And just like that, we're back at it. Passionate fans, school colors everywhere, and an.

[DJ Envy]

Ice cold Coca Cola.

[Gary Owen]

That's a winning combo. No matter the sport, no matter the yard. Everybody knows fan work is thirsty work. So grab a Coca Cola and keep that HBCU pride going.

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[Gary Owen]

Man, that's when you know your league's boring. That's the headline, not the score. Cause I guarantee you all those, all those games that doe got thrown to court, nobody knows the score.

[DJ Envy]

I got in trouble for that the.

[Gary Owen]

Other day because I'm a dildo on the court.

[DJ Envy]

No, I reported yesterday, I was like wnba, there was a dildo thrown on the what? Charlotte go. What was the score? I don't know.

[Gary Owen]

Nobody cares.

[Angela Yee]

Did not know. Look, going back to what you said about your videographer, right? Like you say he's a comedian, right? What do you do? Was he a comedian but when you met him?

[Gary Owen]

Yeah, he DM me and he was like I'm a comedian, okay? And he was already. I went to his page and I saw his videos and I go, yeah, that's pretty good. I go, can you record me? And he was like, yeah. So we tried it and it took about seven, eight months for me to bring them on full time. I use them here and there. But he got better too. Like he now we're, we're synergized like a team. He gets me, I get him. He's so I like how he's like, he's way younger than me, so he's like 30. So he, he knows what the 30 year olds are looking for. He goes, nah, that attention span ain't gonna be there for that. Yeah, really, it's great.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[Gary Owen]

For real. So.

[Angela Yee]

So what do you.

[Gary Owen]

Sorry, am I neglecting eye contact? I'm over here. I don't wanna leave you out.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Don't.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah, like this. Yeah, the energy's great.

[Angela Yee]

So what do you do right when he goes, like when he blows, he pops off Good.

[Gary Owen]

We talked about. I said, dude, I would love to have the like Jo Koy opened up for Chelsea Handler, Chris d' Elia opened up for Jo Koy, that type of deal. And he told me, he goes, dude, by the time that happens, this is going to be a well oiled machine. You're going to be good, you know, because he's. We. I have a full time camera guy. That's not Adam. Adam edits it. So Adam doesn't have to be with me every week.

[Angela Yee]

Got you.

[Gary Owen]

You know, but I like him with me because when you're in the room, you know, when the energy's right, he gets it.

[Angela Yee]

He's a comedian.

[Gary Owen]

That one that went nuts last month. The paper straws one in Baltimore.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Gary Owen]

Remember the guy? I was like imitating four people at the same time. The security guards and everything. It was like I forgot all about that. That was back in February. That happened.

[Angela Yee]

That was hilarious though.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah, but he captured it. If he wasn't there, we missed out on that. So if you're talking about what I took from Nate, keep the camera guys with me. Because that wasn't crowd work. That was. I was getting interrupted. The guy was like animate. And we come to find out he doesn't drink. And they were trying to get him to buy drinks. That was a discussion. He bought the VIP tickets, but he wasn't buying anything. So he's like, dude, you need to buy some drinks. He's like, I don't drink. That was what I didn't know. But they were so animate. I just started going, but that wasn't like crowd work. I just got interrupted and rolled with it. You know what I mean?

[DJ Envy]

Now you said John Cena's interview really, really changed your perspective on things 100%. So break that down. What? How did it change your perspective?

[Gary Owen]

It was funny because like the week before he came on Kelsey Plum, we're talking about the WN player, she like snapped on somebody that was trying to get her autograph and she goes, how's that make you feel as a grown person, you know, doing that? Then when John Cena came on your show. And he goes, if I can sign something and a guy can make money off of it, it's no sweat off my back because I'm helping put food on somebody else's table. And I go, dang. I was caught up in the. You're just gonna sell this now? I'm like, yeah, it ain't nothing. I'll sign it. You know what I mean? So I'm glad I saw that because it really did change my perspective on things because we get so caught up in, like, we feel like we're getting taken advantage of or we want a piece of everything that has our name on it. But if somebody's gonna blow up a 8 by 10 glossy and I can sign it and they can get 100 bucks for it, it's no sweat off my back. Yeah. You know what I mean? So I'm glad. I'm glad I saw that. You know what I mean?

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, that was dope.

[Gary Owen]

That was good.

[DJ Envy]

Now let's talk about this special.

[Angela Yee]

Yes.

[DJ Envy]

Gary owen. No on YouTube. No s on YouTube.

[Gary Owen]

No s. Because black people put an S on my name.

[DJ Envy]

No s on YouTube.

[Gary Owen]

Gary Owen.

[DJ Envy]

No s. No s on YouTube.

[Angela Yee]

So it's only us that do it.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah. You guys.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah.

[Gary Owen]

Filipinos put a P on it in the beginning. Perry Poens. Those Filipinos.

[Lauren LaRosa]

My mom put an S on target. She like, targets.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah. Or shrimps.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I don't know what it is even.

[DJ Envy]

Nowhere near target.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It's just an older black person thing. I don't know. They put S's on everything.

[Angela Yee]

Damn, that's true. I didn't know that we was the only one that did that.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah. Black people love the letter S. You guys love it.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You're not coming to the cookout anymore. We can't because the S. What do you mean? Are you disassociating yourself? Like, because they're gonna still call you Gary Owens, maybe?

[Gary Owen]

No, I still come with cookout.

[Ad Break / Announcer]

Maybe.

[Gary Owen]

Maybe. I don't know. We'll talk about it. I'm sure you'll be like, gary was at the cookout yesterday. I'd be like, lauren, you knew who I was. You didn't even say hello at the cookout.

[Angela Yee]

Or she ran up to you. Gary Owen.

[Gary Owen]

You said, I'm not coming to yours. It was a joke.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I was trolling.

[DJ Envy]

Wow.

[Gary Owen]

You ain't coming to my cookout. Where's Charlamagne? I miss him.

[DJ Envy]

That's crazy. Now I always want to ask too, you know? So you had a crazy divorce and it's finally over. You moved on and everything is good. So you've been. You. You spoke about your relationship with your kids. Has that gotten any better at all?

[Gary Owen]

Son got right after I left here last time, son got a hold of me, so now we're good. He was just in Vegas with me last two weeks ago.

[DJ Envy]

How did y' all make that?

[Lauren LaRosa]

You saw the interview?

[Gary Owen]

He didn't see the interview. He. He. He had an issue at his job, and he. He needed my help, needed my advice. So he. He just called out of left field. It was funny because Adam, I opened, we're in Philly, and he. He matched with this girl on Tinder. And he goes, yo, I got a feeling this girl's trying to catfish me. Can you go to the bar with me just to play wingman? All right. So we're walking to the bar, and my phone rings. It's my son. I looked up. I go, my son's calling me. And he looked at. I go, my son ain't call me, like, three years. So I picked up. I said, good luck with your Tinder date. I hope she's legit, but I'm out. So we talked for, like, three, four hours at night, and then. Yeah, we're. We're as close as ever now. It just took took time. Daughter is still. Still nothing, but she's. She's gonna be a tough one to crack.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Have you attempted to reach out to your daughter since reaching.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah, I always do, but, you know, I don't have. I don't have any. I don't have a way to contact her. She's not on social media. She got a new cell phone, so I have. I have no way. Other than an email.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, she's told her brother not to give you her number.

[Gary Owen]

Well, it's a little different than that. I'll keep that between them. I'll keep that between them. I don't want everything to be on the Breakfast Club.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah, but that's good.

[DJ Envy]

But what was that initial conversation like?

[Gary Owen]

Was it like with my son?

[DJ Envy]

Yeah. Was it natural? Was it like, hey, how's it going? It was like, hey, dad, we haven't spoken. Let's speak. Like, how was that. That conversation after three years? Because it's still your son at the time, you could be mad, but, you know, you still got a place for your art.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah. The first thing he said was, dude, I know we got a lot to work on, and I know we'll get to it, but I really need your help with this problem right now. So I went into immediate, like, dad mode. Like, all right, this is what we got to do. And then it just so happened I was gonna be in the Bay Area, like, two weeks later, and that's where he lives. So the phone call happens two weeks later. We got to reconnect. And then. And then he ended up flying back to Houston with me. I said, you wanna. You wanna fly back Monday when I fly back? He goes, yeah. Cause yeah, I got the twins. So we got to meet the twins. And then everything's good now he's got it. You know, he's got his favorite already. I love it.

[DJ Envy]

Now, be honest. When you first seen that number, did you think it was a money call? Like, you know, like, because, you know when your kids call, it's either they're in problem or they need some money.

[Gary Owen]

Oh, no, he has no problem asking for money.

[DJ Envy]

Okay.

[Gary Owen]

Like, that's not an issue with him. Let me tell you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like this. Oh, you're making up for that three years.

[DJ Envy]

So it wasn't a money call. It was. I need some advice.

[Gary Owen]

It was. No, that wasn't a money call. There's been money calls since, but I think that's natural.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Did you have a moment where you, like. Because last time you were here, you talked about it.

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There was.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It was a bit emotional for you.

[DJ Envy]

Ish.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Did you have a moment where you, like, were like, okay, like, I finally got to the point where me and my son are reconnecting. You were able to, like, take it in and, like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Gary Owen]

But, you know, I was like. I was able to, like, be honest with him about the divorce. It had nothing to do with you. That's between me and your mom. Because I think he. I think, think. And maybe my daughter feels that way too. I think they probably think they had something to do with it. And I was like, dude, it had nothing to do with you. Nothing. So, yeah, you got. You. You kind of replay the. The years lost in your brain. But then where we're at now when you know we're good. Yeah, I didn't miss a wedding. I didn't miss, like, him having kids or anything like that. So I think that would be. That would be tough. Like, if my daughter ever. When she does get married, my God, I hope her we're back in touch by then. You know what I mean?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Walker down the aisle.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah, all that.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Do you change how you do your jokes now? Because, like, I mean, from this point on, because your son's watching and you know all the things. And you had jokes about the divorce. And all that stuff. Did y' all talk about that?

[Gary Owen]

Nah, He's. He's got a dark sense of humor, like I do, so he was good with it.

[Angela Yee]

How old is your son?

[Gary Owen]

24.

[Angela Yee]

Oh, yeah?

[Gary Owen]

Yeah. He's an adult now.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah. So now he's good. He'd be cracking up, and then he. You know, it's funny because now he's kind of hanging out at the comedy club up there in the Bay Area, because I. When I did the show, I brought him up there, and everybody knew him from back in the day. We used to come around. So now he's. He's kind of hanging out there a lot. So he's meeting a lot of the comedians. So it's been good, because I think I've been cool with most comedians, unlike Jess, you know, with Damon. But he says, man, the comedians really like you, dad. Nobody says anything bad about you. I said, well, I hope not. You know, I don't really cross people like that. So that was good.

[Lauren LaRosa]

He's funny. Is he trying to work?

[Gary Owen]

No, he's funny. He could do it if he wanted to pursue it, but I don't think it's his passion, but he could do it. He's quick on his feet.

[DJ Envy]

This is how I knew you were white, Gary, not because of your complexion. You driving past the bank of America, decide to pull over, crazy ass, and say, hey, I want to close my account today. You close the account and then say, oh, well, why are the money. But the account's closed. So they say, okay, you can either take a cashier's check or cash. Yeah, you take the cash. Then you proceed to go to the gym and say, you know what?

[Lauren LaRosa]

What?

[DJ Envy]

I'm gonna leave the cash that I just took out the bake in my car while I go work out for an hour plus. Yeah. And I expect the cash to be there.

[Angela Yee]

Oh, it better be here.

[Gary Owen]

45. It was 45 minutes.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, 45 minutes.

[Gary Owen]

I went to sit in the sauna.

[DJ Envy]

Okay, 45 minutes.

[Angela Yee]

Oh, wow.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, we're relaxing.

[Angela Yee]

A sauna with money in your car, absolutely white.

[DJ Envy]

Then you come back out, your car's broken into, man. The money is gone, with a note that says, thank you.

[Angela Yee]

Damn.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Now how.

[DJ Envy]

Why? We're. How explain.

[Angela Yee]

What was your.

[Gary Owen]

Dude, that white privilege was kicking in that day? I thought, I'm on. I'm good.

[Angela Yee]

You thought she was Tommy from power.

[Gary Owen]

I thought, man, I wish he was there that day. I wish he was there that day. Get him, Tommy. Kiss for Christmas on these. So I'm Literally. I don't bank at bank of America, but I have an account there, and I've had money in there for years that I just. I didn't pay any attention to.

[DJ Envy]

That's how you know he's white. He had money there in an account.

[Gary Owen]

That's not an enormous amount he didn't.

[DJ Envy]

Know was even there.

[Gary Owen]

No, it's there, but it's not an enormous amount. I'm not gonna say, because I don't want to be judged.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Give us a range. Is it over 10,000? But under 50?

[Gary Owen]

I'm not. It's over a thousand. And under 30, you don't get to dictate.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm sorry to say, nigga, but I'm sorry.

[Gary Owen]

Damn sorry. You don't get to dictate. There is nobody in this room that.

[DJ Envy]

Would have an account with over $1,000 in there and not know it's there.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm not even leaving five.

[Gary Owen]

I know it's there.

[DJ Envy]

Go ahead.

[Gary Owen]

I just haven't. I don't bank there, so I'm just kind of sitting. It's not rich like that, okay? I just. I go in. It's like an hour. I was getting fed up. I go, oh, my God, dude. I'm looking at the lay like, I just want to leave. And then she was like, well, do you want to cash your check or you want cash? I go, what's ever faster? Because once you're there for an hour, you ready to go?

[Angela Yee]

Yeah.

[Gary Owen]

She goes, we can do the cash right now. All right. My car, I put in the middle consult. I go, now I'm just driving by Lifetime Fitness. I'm stopping the sauna. I can use a little sweat.

[DJ Envy]

Okay?

[Gary Owen]

I knew people break into the lockers in Lifetime, and that part is. I thought about it. I go, huh? I think it's safer in the car because I have the alarm on the car. You know, them Audis are like tanks. And I was like this. I should be good. And it's middle of the day. It's like 1:30.

[DJ Envy]

Did you leave the cash on the dashboard?

[Angela Yee]

Crime don't have no goddamn time.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Where did you put it? Where was it?

[Gary Owen]

In the middle.

[DJ Envy]

So you didn't even put it in the glove box and lock it? You just.

[Angela Yee]

That's the first place I used to look when I break in cars. Yo, you don't do that, guys. That was back in the day.

[Gary Owen]

Okay, okay, so you can't come. So I come out. I'm just. I'm doing. Not only am I getting robbed because the Widest thing I ever did was leave the money in the car. I got a smoothie, you know.

[Angela Yee]

Wow.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah. I think I was listening to Chris Stapleton, Wide Horse. So I come out, this security guard's on a golf cart just sitting by my car. And they go, here you go. Yeah, they got you. And I went, huh? And I look around. I mean, that passenger side back window is gone. It's just crushed. And they tried to get in all four windows, but they finally got in. Well, the police department finally called me, right? And they said, all right, here's what's crazy. He clearly follows you out of the bank. It's called Juggin Joggin in Houston, where they literally. Guys will sit her outside of banks and they'll follow people. Here's the thing. I'm glad I didn't go home, because he would have followed me home. That's right. And I'm. Because I. I was paying no attention to nothing. So I'm glad I went to the gym. And so they said, dude, you walked right by his car. They got the cameras at Lifetime said, you got out. He parked about five cars away from you. He goes, you stopped and threw something in the garbage can. And you literally stopped right in front of this white Chevy Blazer. I think he was in. Now I'm replaying the Blazer. White Chevy Blazer. White Chevy Blazer. And then I was like this. I go, hey, I'm not saying this, but I really want to know what color was he? Do I get a guess? I go, do I get a guess? Oh, my God. The detective was like, I don't know what you think. I go, black?

[DJ Envy]

And he was.

[Gary Owen]

He was. Yes, he was. Yeah, it was a black guy. It was really black. He was really black.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[Gary Owen]

No, you robbed me. You're really black.

[Angela Yee]

Okay, okay.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, my gosh.

[Angela Yee]

So what happened?

[Gary Owen]

So they. He got the money. He gets there, and then. Here's the silver lining. Once he broke into the car, I went back and had to call my insurance company. And of course, they cover the damages. Well, they go, reevaluate everything. They said, you know, shout out to State Farm. You know, you can consolidate the homeowners, the car and everything. They go, and you're gonna save $240 a month. So I'm not gonna tell you how much it was, but in five years, I'm ahead. Thank you for robbing me, because I just saved money on my insurance.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I know that's right.

[Gary Owen]

$204 a month.

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Boom.

[Gary Owen]

So, yeah, you gotta look at God look at God. I come come 20, 30, Gary's ahead. You think you robbed the wrong one today? State Farm.

[DJ Envy]

Did they catch the people? Did they catch them?

[Angela Yee]

They did.

[Gary Owen]

No, they said they're, they said they do have a guy that is. They got him for other juggins. So now they're going to see if he ever rented a white Chevy Blazer. Cuz how they do, they rent the car and they take the front light. They, they said this guy's a pro cuz he took the front license plate off. And the way he parked it, you couldn't get the lice plate from the camera and he backed up. And so here's the bad part. He tried to get into the driver's side first and couldn't and he realized, oh, I can't keep here. So he, he drove and parked in another part of the lifetime fitness and then came back like 15 minutes later. And that's when he got in the passenger side, right? They said the, the security guard on the golf cart that's supposed to patrol, where was he at by the way? Right? And then they said he drove. When he tried to do it the first time, he drove right by your car and sat there and looked at it for a few minutes and then he, he drove off again. I'm like, where was this guy at? Listen, and let me tell you something. When you get robbed, this is what you don't do. I called a couple people, right? The people. You're like, hey, I just got robbed one. You don't try to share a story of somebody else get robbed. The security guard tries to tell me about all the crimes he stopped. I'm like, I don't care about the dude you stopped before. He was like this. He goes, I can't believe it's happened on my watch. But I take a lot of, of pride. There's another guy that came here, he tried to rob somebody. We had some kids tried to play basketball, they didn't want to leave. Found out they were robbing people in the locker room. I had to kick them out. I go, dude, I don't give a. What are we talking about right now?

[Angela Yee]

I'm gone. All my money is gone.

[Gary Owen]

My window's still broke. I'm waiting on the tow truck, bro. And then he. So I'm waiting on the tow truck. I'm in my car, I got the AC on. I'm just sitting there with the door open. He keeps driving by trying to talk to me. I finally said, dude, I don't want to talk to you. I don't want to be rude, but I want to talk to you. Yeah, and the same thing. How's it going? How you think? How you think it's going, man?

[DJ Envy]

Jesus Christ.

[Gary Owen]

So then I found out Nate Jackson got robbed, so I just want to do what he was doing.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I cannot.

[Angela Yee]

I know he. But look, man, that boy saw you pull out the. The goddamn bank and was like, oh, that's Gary Owens.

[Gary Owen]

We going. We going.

[DJ Envy]

Go.

[Gary Owen]

He got me. I was an easy mark, bro. They're like this. Oh, that's why I kept thinking, was it an inside job? Was somebody in the bank, like, tipping somebody off? Because that's what I heard also, they said, be careful. So now I'm replaying everybody in the bank. I'm like, there was a brother in a suit at the atm. There was another brother came in, the young Mexican dude. He was kind of walking around aimlessly. You know what I'm saying?

[DJ Envy]

I'm like, everybody don't play with the Mexican dude, Joe.

[Gary Owen]

Mexicans have black friends.

[DJ Envy]

You know? Fiance's Mexican.

[Angela Yee]

Oh, is he Mexican and black.

[Gary Owen]

Oh, where'd you meet him?

[DJ Envy]

Yo, that's funny as hell.

[Gary Owen]

Where'd you meet him?

[Angela Yee]

In Baltimore.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Where do you thought she met him at?

[Gary Owen]

No, I'm asking, like, a specific occasion, like Chipotle. Where'd you meet him at?

[Angela Yee]

No, Gary Ruth.

[Gary Owen]

Chris.

[Angela Yee]

I met him. His name is Chris, actually. But no, I met him at one of the downtown restaurants. Watershed in Baltimore.

[Gary Owen]

He was a waiter? No, crazy.

[Angela Yee]

A truck driver.

[Gary Owen]

He's a truck driver. So he's gone a lot? Yeah. Oh, that's good. I don't know. I didn't see you with a truck driver.

[Angela Yee]

Why is it good that he's gone a lot, huh?

[Gary Owen]

Because it makes the heart grow fonder. Oh, God. Because truck drivers ain't out there wiling truck stops. You know what I mean? What could happen? What could go wrong?

[Angela Yee]

A lot, Lizard.

[Gary Owen]

That's what I'm saying.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, exactly.

[Gary Owen]

I don't think. I don't think he's. If he's with you, he's not gonna go back to lot lizards. I'm sure he had one at some point in his life.

[DJ Envy]

Jesus.

[Angela Yee]

What's the next question?

[Gary Owen]

Anybody?

[Angela Yee]

Anybody?

[DJ Envy]

Well, Gary's gonna be.

[Gary Owen]

I mean, at one point, it's already sold out. It's already sold out. Oh, we added Sunday. It's sold out. Oh, you want to talk about Atlanta next week?

[DJ Envy]

Week.

[Gary Owen]

Sold out. We did add a show. We did add a show Sunday in Atlanta, and then in two weeks, I got 11 shows in D.C. they're sold out.

[Angela Yee]

I know. That's right, girl.

[Lauren LaRosa]

That's good.

[DJ Envy]

What'd you say?

[Gary Owen]

Oh, wait a minute. I'm in. I'm in Virginia beach in October. Sorry about that. October, sold out.

[Angela Yee]

You better tell them I know what.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You'Re not doing on them, so.

[Angela Yee]

That's right.

[Lauren LaRosa]

No more divorce jokes. Because. Because it came up in court. Mediation.

[Gary Owen]

Oh, I know. With that. With the. With the thing. It came up mediation.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I was gonna let you rock. So you sold out.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah. That was funny, though. I can't even lie.

[Angela Yee]

All right.

[Gary Owen]

That was a good one. I never even like the same thing. If I'm talking about Jess, I'm talking about Lauren. It's all content. Even in the divorce, I was like. Even with the mediation, it was content. Like, I was acting like I was serious. I was like, that's kind of funny. You know what I mean? He got. It's just.

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And it's like.

[Gary Owen]

I know.

[Angela Yee]

The lawyers don't even know when to take you serious.

[Gary Owen]

This is what I learned. This is the biggest thing I learned. I hope anybody's getting a divorce. Listen, and you hear it all the time. Get to a point where you're cordial with your ex, and you guys decide what you want to do. That's fair to everybody. Because this is when I knew, these lawyers are playing us. This. We were held up for a couple weeks over life insurance. She wanted to take out, like. Like a. I think it was like, a $5 million life insurance policy. On me, right?

[DJ Envy]

On you?

[Gary Owen]

Yeah, on me in case I passed away. So she's good, right? Yeah. But she's got to play the premium. I'm not paying it. So my lawyer went back and forth to her lawyer over, that's too much for life insurance. I said, I'm dead. I don't care what it is. She's paying for it. I don't care what my policy is. They go, well, I don't think the. The life insurance should be bigger than the divorce settlement. I go, who cares?

[Angela Yee]

Yeah.

[Gary Owen]

When I realized I'm getting the bill, like, okay, why am I getting charged? Every email over the. I said, it's done. Give it to her. I'm done. And then when I finally. We finally get to a point where you're like, that. I go, this is so pointless. They will literally find one thing to keep it going. And that kept it going for a couple weeks. The dang. If I'm dead, how much does she get?

[DJ Envy]

And you're like, I don't care.

[Gary Owen]

I'm not paying the problem. All I can do is get a physical.

[DJ Envy]

That's right.

[Angela Yee]

And they just getting your money, taking more money just to prolong it.

[Gary Owen]

And I finally told her. I was like. I finally got to a point where I called her. I said, look, we just got to get this over with. Trust me on this. I said, yeah, I wasn't the best with fidelity, but I never did you wrong financially. You know what I mean? So say she felt like, all right.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah, yeah, y' all called you right. Okay.

[Gary Owen]

Every now and then, it'll creep back up like, whoa, you're really still mad? You're really still upset?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes.

[Gary Owen]

Yeah. You're really still upset. I think the. It's funny. I talk on stage a little bit. Like when I had the twins, I randomly saw her at an airport, and I. I said, hey, you know, I had. I had twins. She goes, yeah. And I go, well, do you want to see them? She goes, no. I said, I know you do. So I showed her the twins, right? So the. The. It's fun.

[Lauren LaRosa]

That is not fun. She thought it was fun.

[Angela Yee]

I was him by now.

[Gary Owen]

So anyways, she goes, there's this white arm and there's this white leg in the side of the picture. She goes, who's that? I go, the nanny. She goes, you have a nanny? You have a nanny? We have a nanny. I go, well, you met me at the wrong time. If you was with me now, you would have a nanny.

[Angela Yee]

He's a butthole, ladies and gentlemen.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Oh, my God. I would have threw my drink at you.

[Gary Owen]

Why? Cause.

[Angela Yee]

Don't.

[Gary Owen]

It's funny. Laura, when you get divorced, you'll know.

[Angela Yee]

She gotta get married first.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm not getting divorced. I don't believe in it.

[Gary Owen]

Really?

[DJ Envy]

Owen. Ladies and gentlemen, Owen not Owens. And check out his comedy special, no s on YouTube. And we appreciate you for joining us anytime. You enjoy.

[Gary Owen]

This is awesome. I'm glad. I'm glad we're friends again. Lauren LaRosa from Delaware. Delaware State. Boom. Just know if I ever say anything, I don't mean it. I don't at all. Anybody checking for me? I worry about you.

[Angela Yee]

You should have called the Lauren Laroses.

[Gary Owen]

Lauren Laros from TMZ's Delaware States.

[DJ Envy]

It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Hold up.

[Gary Owen]

Every day I wake up. Wake your ass up. The Breakfast Club. So y' all done it.

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[Gary Owen]

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