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DJ Envy
Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Lorna Rose is here, and we got a special guest in the building.
Angela Yee (Host)
The legend, the icon has returned to bless us with her presence. Once again, ladies and gentlemen, Jill Scott is back.
DJ Envy
Welcome. How you feeling?
Jill Scott
Thank you. Thank you.
Angela Yee (Host)
How do you feel, Ms. Jill?
Jill Scott
Excited. Excited.
Angela Yee (Host)
First album in a decade.
DJ Envy
Ten years.
Jill Scott
That's what I hear.
Angela Yee (Host)
To whom it may concern.
Jill Scott
Yes, sir.
Angela Yee (Host)
By the way, I love the way you release music because it feels like you release music when you feel like you want to. When the spirit moves you, how do you know when is the right time to release music?
Jill Scott
Because I have too much. And then I. It lets me relax. When it's not finished, I keep tweaking, touching, touching, tweaking, finding new flavors, seasonings, musicians, producers. And when it's done, it leaves me alone. And then I can just listen. And I have so much that I could just listen to. I knew I was done. I was like, okay, now I can create.
DJ Envy
So people would assume that you stopped recording for a little bit, and then you just started recording recently, but you've been recording this whole time.
Jill Scott
I mean, it doesn't stop. It's gonna show up. I mean, what are you gonna do? I do record, but I don't. I just go when I feel like it were for no intention, just because I have to get it out. Other than that, you know, it's not like I'm thinking about an album until it's done.
Angela Yee (Host)
Are you like a comedian? Like, you know, comedians always say they got to stop and live a little life before they get back on the stage. Are you like that?
Jill Scott
Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. I gotta. I gotta make dinner. I gotta go grocery shopping. I gotta see my mom. I gotta have her put me in my place a little bit, you know, raise my kid, do stuff.
Angela Yee (Host)
Absolutely.
Jill Scott
Other than that, what are we talking about?
Angela Yee
I saw you talking about when you took the time off and how intentional you are with just being a mom in that time that you took off.
Jill Scott
You.
Angela Yee
And then explaining to your son about, like, why you got to get back to work and teaching him that. How has it been now that you're back out on the road and you're doing all these things and getting back into the swing of things?
Jill Scott
Well, he's 16 now, and I didn't have to explain anything to him. He knew he was in the studio with me. You know, he's the one that suggested Jid. He's the one that suggested Tierra Wack. You know, he's been a part of the whole process.
DJ Envy
So you got him working.
Angela Yee
So he and R. He is.
Jill Scott
He is an A R, Absolutely. We'll see what else he can do. Right now he's scuba diving, cross country, singing, writing person.
DJ Envy
Thus far, all of that.
Jill Scott
Yeah, thus far. I'm just watching to see, you know, what I could do, you know, how I could help out with the thing.
DJ Envy
Does he know how special his mom is and how powerful his mom is?
Jill Scott
Well, he loves me. You know, like, whether I do well or if I, you know, what I have or don't have, he loves me. You know, we love each other.
Angela Yee (Host)
Yeah. You're special and powerful to him in ways that we would never understand. You, his mom.
Jill Scott
I love him. I appreciate him, I respect him. Try to help him in any dream that he has, and I. I don't even know what it. That'll even mean. I don't know. I don't care. As long as he's happy and he can take care of himself financially, that matters to us. Yeah, I'm. I'm straight. Like, he's a good person. He's so funny. He's cool. So I'm glad he suggested Jid. I. I was. We listened to him, you know, like, this is our music in the kitchen. This is what Jet and I do when we have time together. And he said, mom, why don't you call Jid? And I was like, I don't know him, Jet. And he's like, just DM him.
DJ Envy
And that's what you did?
Jill Scott
Yeah. And it's like, minutes later, he texted back, like, what's up, queen? What you want now? What you want to do? And I was like, huh? Well, he said, send it. And within 24 hours, he sent his verse back.
DJ Envy
Wow.
Jill Scott
And when I tell you, I asked him specifically, I said, I need you to paint a picture with words. This is what I require of the MCS that I love and the MCS that I put on my projects. I need you to paint pictures. Less than 24 hours bars. You can see it, you could taste it. He. He painted brilliant. So proud of him and so happy that he's on my project.
Angela Yee (Host)
So what made you put Absol on Old to Nikki? Because I feel like Old to Nikki would have been such a personal record to you. That you wanted to keep that to yourself. What made you reach out to Absol?
Jill Scott
Because Nikki Giovanni inspired writers. She inspired her inspired poets. And Absol is an ill mc.
Angela Yee (Host)
Absolutely.
Jill Scott
He's. He's so thought provoking. I have to go back and listen again and again, and then I pull out books and, you know, I pick up Wikipedia or whatever, you know, to find out exactly what he's talking about, because he's. He's that thoughtful, he's that prolific. He's had quite a life experience, and it represents in his writing deeply. So I. When I did Ode to Nikki, she's the first poet that I ever found out about at school. Black poet, black woman. And it was just awesome to see myself on paper like that. My people, my. My neighborhood, you know, my love on paper. So when I did Ode to Nikki, she had just passed. Absol seemed like the right guy to me.
Angela Yee (Host)
I mean, no, he sounds great on it.
Jill Scott
He does sound great.
Angela Yee (Host)
I just wanted to know the meaning because I'm like, you know, that's a big compliment for Absol, because we spend
Jill Scott
a lot of time talking. We clicked really easily. So we talked about the Celestine prophecy, like, within minutes of just talking to each other and moved on from. From there. So, yeah, he was the right person for me to choose.
DJ Envy
You look so happy. Like, you look so glowing. I've been watching your rollout, right. I seen you with a demo, and I seen you doing a lot of pressing. You just look and feel like a positive vibe.
Jill Scott
I feel good. I. I did something that I really wanted to do, and it means a lot to me, and I have an opportunity to share it and perform it in front of people that will be looking at me like, I look at them and I get a chance to. To travel some more and make some money, you know?
DJ Envy
But you even, like, Even when I see you do these interviews, you're blushing. It's like. It's like you're overly loving. I love it. I love it. Even when you got here this morning, you were. You said, what time do you guys get here in the morning? But you was smiling and happy about it. Like, I love it. And I love to see artists like that, that love to craft. You could tell when an artist has to do something for money or when an artist has to do something because a label is requiring it or management requiring it, then you can tell when somebody just loves putting albums.
Angela Yee (Host)
She albums every 10 years. She doesn't do anything because the label wants her to do it. I know that's What I'm saying, you
DJ Envy
can tell the difference.
Angela Yee
Even your rollout felt like a hug. Like, I saw you, you went from Gillian Wallow. Then I saw you on Angie Martinez. Then eventually you started doing like, you were posting like the letters on your Instagram and kind of explaining the project. And I'm like, this just feels like I'm being ushered into like a whole new, like, world of things.
Jill Scott
That was the plan. I have a new publicist. I think she's absolutely wonderful. Her name is Erica Trucker Tucker. Forgive me. I think she's fantastic. But we had a whole other idea, like two days before we started doing the rollout. Two days before. I just was like, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Talking about beautiful people. If we're going to put beautiful people out as an introduction to the album. Because really, that's who I'm calling. I'm calling the people that. That light up from the inside, you know, that. That. Love. Love. Yeah, love. Love. That are again, financially respectful to their lives. Make sense. Okay. And so if that's the. If that's the intention is this is the call out. Well, let me represent the people that have been so beautiful in helping me with this project. You know, it's all been organic. I met a guy at a party, he was like, I'm Two Shorts engineer. And I was like, I believe you.
Angela Yee (Host)
That record that the church gonna be mad at you.
Angela Yee
Oh, yeah, possibly.
Angela Yee (Host)
That's like part two of Drewy skit.
Jill Scott
Possibly.
Angela Yee
It's the church in the education system too though. Right. Cuz you mentioned education in there as well.
Jill Scott
Yes. And the pharmaceutical industry.
Angela Yee
Yes. Big pharma.
Jill Scott
Yeah.
Angela Yee (Host)
You ain't lie though.
Jill Scott
I know you didn't lie.
Angela Yee (Host)
And even just the choice to go get too short to come on there and describe pimping.
Jill Scott
The mentality of a pimp. What is it? So, so we're clear, I'm not saying anything. I'm not trying to be mean to you. What? I want to be mean to somebody for that. That's not it. This is what it is, right? This is what it is. And I have a thoroughbred pimp to tell you so. To give you all the information that you need. And this has been brought to you by education because I want you to
Angela Yee (Host)
know, are those records easy or hard to create?
Jill Scott
Easy.
DJ Envy
Easy.
Jill Scott
Really easy. The. The musician's name is K. Martin. I met him when he was like a kid at the studio. Now he's. He played every instrument on that. Every instrument. Wow. Right, Right. Okay. He gives me this music, it feels like. It feels like. Like the Players Ball. It feels like it's pimpy. It's. It's fela. It's like revolutionary at the same time. And I was like, yeah, okay, what am I gonna talk about? This is what I want to say. I say, preacher man, what you trying to do? Trying to get this money? Is that all you do when mama ain't got squat, but you take that toe when you ain't good for the people? I ain't moved. Where's the universities? Where's all the food for free? People can't pay the bills, but you're still riding around in the Cooperville biggest pimp of the year, huh?
Angela Yee (Host)
So when you look. When somebody. When you meet Too Short. What'd you say you met his engineer?
Jill Scott
I met Too Short at something. He's just a part of me. I don't even know when. I didn't know Too Short.
Angela Yee (Host)
Even Hip hop DNA, yo.
Jill Scott
Is that what that is? Like immediate brethren. Okay, that's what it is. Okay, Okay. I don't feel too crazy, but I met his engineer at a party. He said, I'm a producer, and I also. I engineer for Too Short. I just believed him. I just believed him.
DJ Envy
I just believed him.
Jill Scott
I just believed him. So I gave him my number. We exchanged numbers. I called him. He sent me music. He sent me off of the back, and he sent me pressure.
Angela Yee (Host)
Wow.
Jill Scott
When I say organic, like just allowing the things to be what they are. I'm talking to David Banner, you know, that's my dude. And now we're talking. He's been giving me music forever. He just keeps. Keeps the inspiration churning, right? So he's. We're talking and I said, I got this track. I. I want it to feel like. I want it to feel like a marching band. I want it to feel like HBCU marching band. That's what I want. That's what I want. He said, why don't you call Trombone shorty? You got his number? Yeah, send it to me. I called Easy. He went in and cut 480 tracks.
DJ Envy
Jesus.
Jill Scott
Why would you do such a thing, sir? Why would you do such a thing? And he's just like, I love you.
Angela Yee (Host)
That's a great intention.
Jill Scott
So listen, the way that it's working, I couldn't have planned it. Like, even the day that it's, you know, come out, it's. It's February 3rd. 13th. 13th.
Angela Yee
Yeah.
DJ Envy
2, 3, 2, 1, 3.
Jill Scott
No, February 13th. Got it.
DJ Envy
I don't get it, but okay.
Jill Scott
On the 20. Wait, 26th year, right? 26.
DJ Envy
Nobody else in the room got it?
Angela Yee (Host)
Yes. 2. 13. 13 times. No, no, hold on.
DJ Envy
You ain't got it either.
Jill Scott
It's as simple as simple could be. I love. I, I, I call myself the queen of grand simple things. 2, 4. 1 and 3. 2 and 6. Wait. 2 and 6. 8. Right? 2, 4, 8. Just as simple as can be. These are the things that I look for.
Angela Yee (Host)
Just for things just all add up.
Jill Scott
Basically, I am. After reading the Celestine prophecies, I am driven. I am. I'm driven. It's a path. I just, I just follow it. Signs are obvious and evident. And I say yes, whether, whether I, you know, my number is four. Two is obviously. So I'm always looking for a four. I'm looking for the right energy. And Friday the 13th kind of felt good to me. I don't know. And it's the day before Valentine's Day. I could have released it on Valentine's Day, but I like this. I'm hoping people will listen and, and like, have something to talk about.
DJ Envy
Most people would have stayed away from Friday the 13th.
Angela Yee (Host)
Why? She playing Jason? She killing these holes. Listen. But no, when you talk about the celestial prophecy, it's like, to me, I've always seen your aura. Like, when you talk about following the divine, like, you always had that divine energy, that divine presence. Like, that's why we've always gravitated towards you.
Jill Scott
It's a confirmation of what I already knew.
Angela Yee (Host)
Got you. Okay.
Jill Scott
It was a, it was a stamp. So when I'm not reading it, I'm listening to it. It's just a good story. Like, like, like any folklore, I would say, or Bible or Torah or Holy Quran. They're filled with stories that teach us how to live a life. And obviously you get to choose how you do the thing with, with the Celestine Prophecy. It taught me that I'm already doing the things that I need to do. Like, I always look for beauty. You know, no matter what situation I'm in. Where is the beauty? It's some. There's got to be some. And then you find it. The, the, the mud around your boot is, is rich and it's kind of, like, mushy and, and something about it is a little satisfying. So you step in the mud a little bit more. My boots are muddy, but my spirit feels good. So I follow these things. They're nine insights. The studio that I was working out of has, I've worked in many times, but it's been changed over and over again. It's always closing down and starting again. So I'm in the middle of Celestine Prophecy, and I'm going to the studio because I've decided to take the month and just go every day, like, finish. And I'm walking up and I look and they put that new sign on the studio, and it's I N C I I T E Studios. I was like, insight Studios. Okay, okay. I'm headed in the right direction. Don't give up. Just. It's. These are the things that I look for, like little. Little signs that are actually really big ones. And here I am with you. It's been a while.
DJ Envy
It's been a while. So if everything's a sign, do you ever feel. See a sign that says, I'm not going in that direction or I'm not going there, or management, let's not do that, because that does not feel right.
Jill Scott
It's. It. It's not as easy. It's abrupt. It's harsh. It's a. It's a jerk back. And I. I haven't really. No, I don't know how to, like, navigate that part yet, But I will. I will get. I will get away. I will get away. I've learned that too. Then when the spirit says no, when your whole energy says no.
Angela Yee (Host)
That's right.
Jill Scott
What are you doing? Don't talk to this person. I remember talking to somebody at a party, and I was like, why are you talking? Got Covid all in my face and I got covet. I was like, see, girl,
Angela Yee (Host)
everything makes so much sense now. Because, you know, one of my favorite records on the album is pay you on Tuesday. Right? And it's so funny because my niece had put out a tweet yesterday, and she put, if you young, black, and gifted, get away from and asap. Right? And I just thought that was hilarious. And then I heard pay you on Tuesday, but now I'm like, oh, she's staying away from the. The poor me energy type. I mean, now that I hear you talk about the. The book so much, I'm like, oh, that's why she wrote that record.
Jill Scott
Part of it.
Angela Yee (Host)
Part of it.
Jill Scott
Yeah, part of it. And I know I keep saying financial, but I am really over us spending and buying things that we can't afford. For who? For what? It's so many things to do, to taste, to see, places to be. Like. I just. I'm. What? I just don't see how it profits us to. You know, I like nice stuff, too. I really do, but I buy the stuff that I can afford, and somebody else was like, but you can afford. You don't know what I could afford, and you don't know what I want.
Angela Yee (Host)
But you act your wage.
Jill Scott
I do, I do. I do. I think it's a wise decision. I. I save properly. I. I invest. I. I really want to switch out of this poverty mindset or the lacking mindset of some, you know, my family, break away from these things. I'm not interested in doing that anymore. I want to grow and I want to make a whole lot of money, Like, a whole lot. And I'm going to do great things with it. Enjoy it. I already do. Enjoy the money I have. I do dope shit on a regular. I really do. It's been. It's been so nice. Oh, my God. You know, my son went to Tanzania to get his scuba certification.
Angela Yee (Host)
Wow.
DJ Envy
That's amazing.
Jill Scott
That's so fly.
Angela Yee
I was like, I've never been.
Angela Yee (Host)
Oh, I went to Zanzibar, Tanzania. I went to Zanzibar in Tanzania. Beautiful.
Jill Scott
I've never been, but he has, like.
DJ Envy
Yes, but that's the most important thing, right? When we get to a place where it's like, none of this matters. You just want your kids to be happy. Whatever it takes to be happy. Like I tell my daughter, my son, I don't care what you do. If you want to do nails, if you want to do hair, if you want to do sanitation, as long as you're happy. Life is too short.
Jill Scott
Joyful. Happy is fleeting. Joyful, joyful, look for it. That's an insight as well, to constantly look for the joy. Taste the food. Taste it. Feel the water. It's nice and it sparks creativity.
Angela Yee (Host)
But I can't afford to eat that, Jill. And I can't afford to go there to swim in that water. So can you loan me something? 10,000. Real quick.
Jill Scott
I've learned this. If someone wants to borrow something from you, you give them a job word. If they do the job and do the job well, then that you're showing me something. I'm going to give you a small reimbursement contract. I'm going to say 25amonth. Fair? Yes. You don't pay the 25. I don't know how. When it's going to stop, it's going to stop. If you're consistent. If you're consistent. If you're not consistent, you never have to worry about me again. You never have to ask me anything again. Because this was. This was a contract. It didn't have any Interest. This was respect. So I enjoy helping people, but I have to see what they want. I have to see what they're doing. I gotta see something. You gotta show me something. Can't just tell me a dream. Okay.
Angela Yee
When did you get to that point in your life? Because I saw you talking to Angie Martinez about that. Right. And setting these boundaries. But then I also hear you talk a lot about, like, you carry so much for your family for a long time, because you were trying to, like, y' all were trying to get out of the situations that you guys were in. And I think that there's like a. Sometimes there's like this tug of war of, like, I'm able to help, so I want to help, but at the same time, I gotta set these boundaries. When did Jill Scott say, I done did enough. I gotta stop this now.
Jill Scott
Now.
DJ Envy
Something had to happen.
Jill Scott
I turned 50 and the light popped on again. Yeah, that's what happened. Time creates wisdom, you know, if you're paying attention, if. If you're not paying attention, it just creates age. But, yeah, I've been paying attention, and I know that. That. That doesn't make me feel good to watch people do things that are outside of their. Their particular space, financial space, like going on a cruise. Okay, you going on a cruise, but you didn't pay the mortgage. I can't help you with that. I can't. And the fact that you had asked me to is ridiculous. You made a choice. That is your choice. It wasn't like something happened like, you know, the car broke down or, you know, the. The tuition is behind or it's not. It's nothing like that. And even if tuition is behind, how' em grades? Mm. How they doing? What activities are they in? Because it's mine. And I can share with you as I seem fit and deemed fit. It might seem harsh, but I. I don't know. It feels right to me. I feel better. I don't feel weighed down by people's stuff.
Angela Yee (Host)
I don't think that's harsh. And then also, what about when you give somebody money for mortgage, but then you go see them on a cruise after you. After they just ask you for money?
Jill Scott
I didn't get invited to the cruise.
Angela Yee (Host)
What is blues to you?
DJ Envy
That's his favorite song, by the way.
Angela Yee (Host)
No, I got a lot of favorite records, but that record was hitting hit for me yesterday. In a real way. I got a lot of favorite records on that one, but that one really was okay.
Jill Scott
Music is medicinal. It'll hit you when you need it. So what do you mean by like, what. What does it do for you, man?
Angela Yee (Host)
For me, it. It just put things in perspective based off what you're saying, because you're saying a lot of that throughout the song as you're singing, but it's also. It's like, I don't want no more blues. Stop putting your problems on me. I can wake up in the morning and be good, and then by the end of the week, I'm feeling way down. And then when you realize why you're way down, it's because you're trying to help everybody else with they. I don't want no more, nigga.
Jill Scott
It's exhausting. Yes, it's exhausting. I love to inspire. I want people to do better. But if they don't want it, what am I supposed to do? Just keep pouring into an empty well? I can't do it. The things that you do don't benefit you, so why do I have to? Damn, that's a bar. Mm.
Angela Yee
It is.
Jill Scott
That's.
Angela Yee
It's really mentally heavy too, especially depending on where you come from. Like, I've. I've. Your song with a Tierra whack is so Philly. It's so, like, arts Philly. I love Tierra whack, but just hearing you say that makes me think about, like, a lot of people who come from, like, particular neighborhoods, families, whatever. That mental weight, we never. Some of us never let that go. Like how you said I turn 50, right? I got family members, 65 and plus, that are, like, literally aging themselves because they're still holding on to that. I got to do everything for everybody.
Jill Scott
Yes. It's not benefiting us. It's like, what are we being loyal to? That line, you know, all. All skin folk and kin folk. Not all people are your people.
Angela Yee (Host)
That's right.
Jill Scott
You gotta search out for your people and weed them out respectfully, you know, or disrespectfully. They just have to go. They can't stay. They're taking up space. A girlfriend of mine had asked me about what to do. She said she wanted a man. And I was like, maybe make some space for one. A physical manifestation of a. Of a dream or an idea that you want. It becomes real. Make room in your closet. Take the lamp down on the other side of your bed and take the stuff out of. Might sound crazy to some. Try it. Make space in your life for what it is that you want, and you'll see it every day. The fact that there's a space. And watch. Just watch. Just trust Auntie, I love you. Okay,
DJ Envy
well, I'll make space in my bank account and I'm manifesting I lost space. If that money come in, get another account.
Jill Scott
Get another account.
DJ Envy
Did your friend ever get the man?
Jill Scott
They're very happy.
DJ Envy
Oh, good.
Angela Yee (Host)
At this stage in your life, what does honesty and music require that it didn't demand from you when you was in like your 20s and 30s?
Jill Scott
What does it require now? I don't know what it requires. I know what I require.
Angela Yee (Host)
What do you require?
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Jill Scott
AT&T connecting changes everything. AT&T.
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Jill Scott
I require a certain amount of rest. I I want to be in the best venues that has the best sound I. I like a two bedroom or a definitely a two bathroom hotel suite. Time with my people, like my people, they. I've known them forever. They're like friends. They're not like friends friends, they're the best of friends. Time with them. And then I. And then I love to do my job. So it's not even like I feel like I'm required to do anything by anyone. I set my space. You know, I said it before, I'll say it again. You work hard in your 20s, you work smart in your 30s, you work how you want to in your 40s, you work when you want to in your 50s, and you work if you want to in your 60s. And I'm in my how I want to phase of my life. So how I want to is more than likely I will be having residencies instead of running all over the country. Come to me, come to me. Let me give you a stage that I've created that I don't have to pick up and move from space to space, you know, and in, you know, if I just come see me, I'll let you know in plenty of time, you know, so that you can come and I'll create based off of the space that I'm in. This is where I am now. This is what I require. And then I would love listening ears, people that actually listen to what's being said and the musicianship of the album. You know that part. Like, I hope to inspire bass players like crazy. I hope to inspire MCs like crazy to start, I don't know, telling stories, painting pictures in. In big grand scopes, you know. So to whom this May Concern requires these things and that's where I am at this point.
Angela Yee (Host)
The title feels like a. Like, like, like a boundary and a release in a way. Why'd you come up with that title, To Whom It May Concern?
Jill Scott
Because it's To Whom this May Concern.
Angela Yee (Host)
Casting a wide net.
Jill Scott
It is To Whom this May Concern. I'll. You'll know. If it's for you, you'll know. And then I thought about this because I thought maybe that was limiting. I thought about this the other day, that I didn't understand Billie Holiday when I was young. I didn't understand the tone of her voice. I didn't understand the things that she was talking about. I didn't get it. It's like, why did it make such a big deal about this lady? Until I got my feelings hurt. And then I played Billie Holiday and I was like, oh, that's what this is. And you're relating to me in this space. Oh, so it could be the same thing for a lot of people. I don't know. But to whom this may concern is for. To whom this may concern, we'll know. I can't wait to see your faces.
Angela Yee (Host)
That makes so much sense because, like, you know, I can't wait. I think about, like, you know, older records of yours, like, Blessed, right? And when you first heard it, it's. It's a good record. But when you're actually in that space, later in life, oh, my God, it just hits. It just hits different.
Jill Scott
You get to that point, you're like. And I know what I know.
DJ Envy
Do you think about that when you're creating? Like, I want to make sure that people understand it when they're at their lowest moment, at their highest moment, at that moment.
Jill Scott
I don't know if I could do that to myself. I try my best to be as clear as possible, and I know that I speak in poet, but I try my best. And then I just have to release the baby, go head out in the world and see what happens. You know, I put a lot of good intentions, a lot of prayer, a lot of love, a lot of hours, lots into the project. So this baby's been loved. I think you can hear that. I know I can hear it. And we'll see who gravitates towards it. I'm excited to see them.
Angela Yee (Host)
I really am on the hook. Okay.
Angela Yee
I was gonna say that's the heat on the start of the album. You talk about you can't wait to see the people. Just now, when you said it before this last time, you kind of got emotional when you said you can't wait to see people's faces. What is that feeling that I'm like? Since, as you say, you can't wait to see the people show out for this.
Jill Scott
It's a dream. It's a dream. I've seen it. I've seen it every time I sing. Beautiful people, I just see. I see thousands and thousands of people, like, is. And they're up. And they're up there, too, as far as I can see. And I. And I get to see these faces looking back at me. I don't know how I'm gonna make it through that, but I'll do my best. And I don't know how I'm gonna make it through Ashe either.
Angela Yee (Host)
Me and one of our producers was talking about that record earlier because she was asking me what was one of my favorite records on the album. She said, ashe. Ashe.
Jill Scott
I was crying during the recording. Andre Harris sent me the music, and I was like, this is a prayer. This is a prayer. Now what shall I say to my beautiful people? Man, I don't know how I'm gonna ever get through that song. They'll probably have to sing it for me. I just don't know. I don't know.
Angela Yee (Host)
I've seen you do some amazing singing when you was crying. I remember years. Years. This is 20 plus years ago. I seen you in Charlotte, North Carolina, at the Sugar Water Festival. You hit a high note so crazy, like, literally, a tear came down your face, like in Denzel and Glory. It just sat there for a second, and you didn't miss a beat, so I don't think you'll miss a beat.
Jill Scott
We'll see how this goes on the
Angela Yee (Host)
hook of be great. You say, I'm gonna go ahead and be great?
Jill Scott
Yeah.
Angela Yee (Host)
Do you have times where you feel like you're not great already?
Jill Scott
It's internal. It's. And it's not for anybody else's. It's not for anybody else. You're great, my great. It's all great. You know what I'm saying? But I'm do my great. I'm. You know. Yeah. Do I have. Do I have. What was the question?
Angela Yee (Host)
Like, do you ever feel like you have moments where you feel like you're not great already? Like, I don't know, because I can't imagine Joe Scott having imposter syndrome ever.
Jill Scott
Oh, thank you. I'm sure. I feel insecure and scared and. And all the things that human beings feel. I mean, I know I do. Was there a time I didn't think I was being great? I don't remember.
Angela Yee (Host)
When you say I'm gonna go ahead and be great, you're just talking about
Jill Scott
everything and all the things. You know what? As I said, all my life I wanted to do good. I wanted to be good. I wanted to feel free of a history that made me cry and stump my stride. So I changed my mind. I doubled down on believing that the opinions of other people couldn't light my life or deter my sight Nor wrong my rights or delay my flight I'm flying high now up above on the clarity of love I only kidding what I put into it I spend my sweet time where I deem fit I got one life Imma let my glow show baby look at this the embodiment of soul glow I admit Paint my own pictures Gifts on gifts on gifts Let the load live Let the words shift I ain't here to live in fear or just plain old exist. I' ma go ahead and be great. Why not? So I want people to play before they go in their audition. I want them to play before they go in their job interview. I want them to play when. Before they propose, before they take their test. Before they take test.
Angela Yee
So much affirmation here.
Jill Scott
Yeah.
Angela Yee
Like, the whole, like, it felt like. Like, I feel like living my life like it's golden is like a song that you play when you want to feel good too. Like, that's like my go to, like, easy affirmation song. But when I was listening to this, I'm like, you got like the first three songs, first two songs are just straight out the back. And then you.
Jill Scott
You just gone off with the affirmations and other things. Is that what it is?
Angela Yee
It felt. I don't know if I like. It's kind of like the sort of the opening song. What is it? Dope shit. That kind of felt like a. Like how you was like, just listen to auntie, right? I felt like I was sitting down and somebody was like, I'm tired of you. Come here. Come have a conversation. Let's really talk. Because what's going on? It felt like that. And then when we go into the second song, be great. It's like it's already there. And I done told you and I'm not going to tell you again. And then Beautiful People is like, the people have finally got it and now they, like, all come together and it's just this big march and push back against, like this. I just like, it's like a world phenomenon. Like everything's switching.
Jill Scott
You can see it.
Angela Yee
Yes. Like, it. It just continues and continues and continues. So maybe it's more of a movement, not affirmations.
Jill Scott
I'll take it. I'll take it. It's. It's. I was made an auntie for a reason, and I'm going to do my job, period.
Angela Yee (Host)
You know, I wonder, when you do records like Pressure Hill, when you do records like Me 4, is that when you do the actual record, is that when the closure comes? Or do you have closure before in order to do the record?
Jill Scott
I never thought about it. I don't know if that I'm looking for closure necessarily. I need to say it. I need. I need it. I need to say it. It is true. I need to get it out. I think that's how I feel about that. Yeah. And then when I listen to it, it becomes an affirmation for me because I've said it and I was like, yeah, you said that. Because that's. That's what it is. That's exactly what it is. Yeah.
DJ Envy
You ever went too far and was like, let me take this out, man.
Jill Scott
Many, many times.
DJ Envy
Really?
Jill Scott
Many times. Many times. I typically write the thing before I get into the studio so I can find how it feels when I get in there. Or I already know how it feels. It wasn't something. I don't know if I necessarily went too far. Let me be clear. I just said some shit I probably shouldn't have said that might be too far, but I don't know. It was the right thing. And when I listened to it, I'm like, yep, that's right. You know, that was. That was real there. But I probably shouldn't have shared it.
Angela Yee (Host)
You went hard on this album, I mean.
Jill Scott
Oh, yeah, I did.
Angela Yee (Host)
Hey, you say you married a pretty.
DJ Envy
That's.
Angela Yee (Host)
I would know what went farther than that. I got pretty self explanatory.
Jill Scott
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think I just needed to get that. Get stuff out too, you know, Music is healing for. For the artist as well. Supposed to be.
DJ Envy
What's the moral compass with that? Is it yourself saying, nah. Is it your son? Is it your homies?
Jill Scott
Be like, I haven't had that. It didn't come up. Nobody said anything. You know, and my son listens to everything and we talk about everything. Yeah. So it didn't come. Nobody said, hey, you probably shouldn't say that. Nobody did not. I don't know if I would agree or disagree about it. Shit. Did you see how everybody's going crazy about Squeezing My Meat? It's a song called Don't Play.
Angela Yee (Host)
Yeah, right. But I didn't see. No, I didn't see people going crazy about it.
Jill Scott
Oh, boy. I did. They were like, squeeze my meat. And I was like, she said, squeeze my meat. She was doing squeeze my meat. And I was like, I did.
Angela Yee (Host)
They're not used to that from you yet at this point.
Angela Yee
It's a new generation of people who just be on Twitter.
Jill Scott
I. I'm just. I'm just confused. Maybe you all can help me out here because I would love to know. I've heard lyrics that.
Angela Yee (Host)
Oh, way worse. Slob on my knob like corn on the cob. They singing about eating ass now, Jill.
Jill Scott
I heard.
Angela Yee (Host)
Yeah, I heard.
Jill Scott
I heard. I listened to a lot of music, and because I listened to a lot of music, I was just like, what exactly is so radical about Squeeze My Meat?
Angela Yee (Host)
They're not real Jill Scott fans then.
Jill Scott
No, but What? But besides being a fan or not, like, what's radical about that? I just don't. I'm missing something.
Angela Yee (Host)
Probably the way you sung it when you sing it with.
Angela Yee
Yes.
Angela Yee (Host)
You know, because it sounds amazing. So you might be just randomly finding yourself singing it even as a guy. You know what I mean?
Angela Yee
I also think it's. I think it's too like with the new generation. They get it different ways.
Angela Yee (Host)
I'm sure I will at some point. The spirit will move me and I'll just be coming around the corner. Squeeze my meat.
DJ Envy
You better never sing that if you in the bathroom with me, bro.
Angela Yee (Host)
I'm just telling you that right now. It can happen. That's all.
Jill Scott
It's. I think it's the fact that you gotta say squeeze.
Angela Yee
They said it was. They was demon. The big areola music.
Jill Scott
I heard that too.
Angela Yee
Yeah.
DJ Envy
I was like the big ariola music.
Angela Yee
Yeah. They. They said. Because basically if you don't know what to do with it, don't come over here. That's the conversation. And I think it's just right now in music you either get stuff like that very straight forward to the point where it's not sensual. And that has always been you to be able to communicate those type of things in a very unique way. Right. But there is a new generation of creators and artists who are listening to this and discovering your ability for the first time. And they just think it's so powerful and forward. And I'm like, welcome.
Angela Yee (Host)
I don't talk to people though, like people like that. It's like, like I hate people that I don't want to have to don't. I don't want to catch up with you. Okay. Like we over here celebrating Jill Scott because of who Jill Scott always has been. I don't have time to explain.
DJ Envy
They'll get there.
Angela Yee (Host)
The greatness of Jill Scott. You know, Catch up in your own time.
Jill Scott
Fair enough.
DJ Envy
They'll get there.
Angela Yee (Host)
Catch up in your own time.
Jill Scott
Right.
DJ Envy
I ain't got to explain it. They'll get there.
Jill Scott
Life will happen. And then there I'll be. You're loving auntie with so many stories to tell, so many life experiences to share, so many lessons learned. So much music.
Angela Yee
There was a skit on here too. I forget where. Where it like comes in at. You're like talking to someone and then it goes into a song. And I was hoping that we would get more of that type of thing. Kind of like what Jasmine Sullivan did on Hotels. Just because of what you said. Like I. I know we know so much about you, but I know that there's a lot more to hear. And now that I'm older, I just was like, I wonder if she'll ever do that, where we just get to hear her talk through her, like, experiences of things and then we go back to the music after that.
Jill Scott
Well, I don't know. I did listen to Viola Davis's book and just. My God, I could listen to that woman. That story was so powerful, so impactful. I think if I were going to do that, it'd probably be a book. You know, I. I have a lot of dreams.
Angela Yee
Does that mean a book is in the works or something?
DJ Envy
I know a publisher if you need one.
Jill Scott
Thank you.
Angela Yee (Host)
You know, it's so interesting. You mentioned David Banner a lot to me. Y'.
Jill Scott
All.
Angela Yee (Host)
I don't know. Y' all have similar spirits. I don't know. Like, sometimes I hear you talking, I hear David Banner, and then now I'm hearing David Banner. Sometimes I heal Jill Scott, but I never thought about that until I've heard you mention him in the last couple. I heard you mention him in Angie Martinez interview. Mentioned him here now. And I'm like, they the same person kind of energy wise.
Jill Scott
Thank you. We. We click.
Angela Yee (Host)
You want to expound?
Jill Scott
What would I say about david ban? He is really, like, I said this earlier, but he's really, really kept me inspired, Sending me music. Sending me music from other people as well, not just himself. Like, not just trying to get on the album, like, sending me other musicians, stuff like that. That's a lot. That's a lack of id. Okay. Like, love that. And he's. He's amazing for resources as well. We. We buckheads often. And I tell him, I'm not scared of you, David Banner, you know, and he likes that. So we're. That's my brother from another mother.
Angela Yee (Host)
Yep, I can see that.
Jill Scott
And I think he's beautiful. That part too.
Angela Yee (Host)
Do you think healing is. Is louder or quieter at 50?
Jill Scott
Quieter internally, but very vocal outside.
Angela Yee (Host)
Gotcha. It shows up in the music.
Jill Scott
Yeah, Gotcha. Yeah. How old are you?
Angela Yee (Host)
47.
Jill Scott
That's it?
Angela Yee (Host)
Yeah. I'll be 48 this year. Born in 1978, baby, right there. But I feel the same way you feel. I like being. I like just growing, like, you know, feeling. You feel more unapologetic about who you are every day. And you realize how much more it is for you to learn and how much it. That you have to unlearn.
Jill Scott
The unlearning part. Practice, practice, practice, practice, practice.
DJ Envy
What did you have to unlearn. That was so difficult.
Jill Scott
I had to unlearn doubting myself. I had to. I had to learn to trust the process. I think for the last few albums, I've been, like, trying my best. Like, trying, trying, like. You don't have to try. You don't have to try. All you got to do is realize, shout out to Bilal. But that's all you got to do. And that is, like, this freed me and I. I have so much. I have so much music, y'.
Angela Yee (Host)
All.
Jill Scott
It's not even funny with. With in so many different categories, which is exciting to me. I don't know. I. You know this one. I'm. I'm here. See, I gotta stay right here because there's so many things, and I'm excited about them all, but I have to stay right here with. To whom this may concern. I put a lot of love in this thing. I cannot wait for people to listen with their listening ears, like, actually think about the words and have conversations. And. I don't know. By the time they get to. To be honest, I really hope that they're in full swing. That was my intention.
Angela Yee (Host)
Is there a song on this album that represents a boundary that you used to ignore, but now you protect it no matter what?
Jill Scott
I'd have to look at the song list. Can you think of one?
Angela Yee (Host)
Let me see. You got dope. Be great beautiful people off the back north side Disclaimer. Pay you on Tuesday. Pressure me forward the math or universe lifting me up don't play to be honest, right here, right now, I say sincerely do probably me for it, right?
Jill Scott
No.
Angela Yee (Host)
Maybe pressure, no. No.
Jill Scott
I love all my life. Everything gets you where you're going. If I change something, then what would happen? Who would I be? You know, I am. I am literally baby mama number four. Four is my favorite fucking number. I'm always gonna find it. The silver lining, the joy, the beauty and the thing, you know? But you go through stuff, and that's life. And you just. You know, I'm. I'm on the other side of everything, which is good. Now the job is to get myself in inside of everything, to tell the story properly on stage.
Angela Yee (Host)
That's what you looking forward to the most.
Jill Scott
I'm looking forward to it. It's. It's therapeutic. It's terrifying. So scary.
Angela Yee (Host)
Oh, I'm coming to see you on Valentine's Day. I will be right there. Me and the wife.
Jill Scott
Nice.
Angela Yee (Host)
Absolutely.
Jill Scott
No, I'm. I'm feeling stuff out. So you're coming to a feel Out.
Angela Yee (Host)
Okay, my last question, when it's all said and done, what does peace look like for Jill Scott and did this album bring you closer to whatever that is?
Jill Scott
Life is bringing me closer to my
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Jill Scott
and my kid doing well for himself, and my mother living so comfortably, and she's happy. My. My private. My personal life is solid. I love my home. I love my friends. I have beautiful friends, y'. All. You will with them. Anybody would like. They're so dope, so many levels of it. It's not a lot of them, but they're powerful. I'm. I'm. I'm. You know, I'd say you say you're happy, you say you're joyful, and people get upset about it. I feel sorry for that for you.
Angela Yee
People get upset about you saying that.
Jill Scott
People are upset about other people feeling joy and being happy. Yes. They do it all the time. I see it. Yes. Yeah. I don't know what it is. I don't care what it is. It's not my bag to carry. I'm gonna let this little light of
Angela Yee (Host)
mine shine, and that light gonna irritate some demons and others.
Jill Scott
You see what I'm. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. I have a force field. I put it on. It goes for under my feet, above my head, anytime I think about it, or I just put my force field on and I walk through my life. We're superheroes. We can do really anything we want. Anything we can imagine. Just need the power to do it. The power is. Is love. The power is sincere friendships. The power is guidance. My mentor is outside somewhere. Like, having that is. Is. And anybody can attain it. Anybody at any time, in any state of their life can get all of the things. My mentor. Sometimes life will be a little stressy. Stressful. She'll come in swinging, swinging like boys in the hood swinging. She'll kick. It's a physical manifestation of a spiritual thing. She's fighting off whatever can't happen. And then she says, whoa. And I love that. I want to. You know, I'm like, damn. I really, like, got everything I asked for. I got everything I asked for.
Angela Yee (Host)
Praise God.
DJ Envy
Amen.
Jill Scott
Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
Angela Yee
Everything.
Jill Scott
Wow. It's okay.
Angela Yee
Feel that. That's what I've been feeling all interview. I'm like, something. She. There's a feeling here. I just don't know what it is. But I'm so glad that you, in this space, you deserve it. You worked hard. Ma' Am for a long time, ma'.
Jill Scott
Am.
Angela Yee
You've been literally like, the deal Scott my whole life. I'm 34.
Angela Yee (Host)
I just want you to know what you mean to so many people. Like, I hope you know that we really love you and we value. We appreciate you. We appreciate you. And even you putting out new music means so much. Like, this is an event. Like, oh, my God, Jill. Scott, putting up, putting out new music, like, that matters. Like, a lot of people that put out music, I can take it or leave it. Some people put out music. The world stops for me.
Jill Scott
That's right.
Angela Yee (Host)
And that. That is what you're doing. To whom it may concern.
Jill Scott
I hate to be redundant, but I'm gonna say it again. That in the time when Marvin Gaye was the highest, there were albums that hit number one and stay number one for weeks. In the time with Chaka Khan, I love you wherever you are. Shaka Khan so much had number five on. On some chart. There was some 1, 2, 3, and 4 that were doing way better than that. But who do we remember?
Angela Yee (Host)
That's right.
Jill Scott
Who do we talk about? Who do we still go see? It's. You know, this thing is. Is all secular. You're gonna get. You're gonna get a bunch of other things in the water as well. But sometimes. Sometimes you get a Prince. Sometimes you get a Michael Jackson. Sometimes you get a Teddy Pendergrass and a Stephanie Mills and a Phyllis Hyman. Oh, Lord, the list. And we remember them and we carry them and we play their music in our house and we. We live by it and we reference it and. And that's what I. My goal was. I wanted to have a career like Frankie Beverly and Mays. And somebody else would be like, well, what do you mean? Frankie Beverly and Maze. Not everybody knows them. What Frankie Beverly and Mays could do 25 years without having an album is sell out an arena. And everybody's gonna show up in white and everybody's gonna sing with all of their hearts. Arms in the air. That's what I wanted for myself. And I. And I have it.
Angela Yee (Host)
Yes, you do.
Jill Scott
I might have to take a nap.
DJ Envy
Ladies and gentlemen, Jill Scott. Alvin is out today.
Angela Yee (Host)
Make sure you buy all that good stuff. We appreciate you so much. I hope you get that nap. No, that's. That's divine. Go get that nap. You deserve it. Your soul deserves it.
Jill Scott
Oh, my goodness.
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Jill Scott
All right. Woo.
Angela Yee (Host)
It's Jill Scott.
DJ Envy
It's the Breakfast Club.
Angela Yee (Host)
Good morning.
Jill Scott
Hold up.
Angela Yee (Host)
Every day I wake up, wake your ass up. The Breakfast club.
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Episode: Best of Full Interview: Jill Scott On Divine Timing, Honesty, Healing + New Album "To Whom This May Concern"
Air Date: April 7, 2026
Hosts: DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God
Guest: Jill Scott
This episode features a rich, insightful interview with neo-soul icon Jill Scott, celebrating her return with her first album in a decade: "To Whom This May Concern." The discussion journeys through Jill's creative process, motherhood, financial wisdom, personal healing, boundary-setting, and the spiritual underpinnings of her life and music. Jill radiates joy and unapologetic authenticity as she discusses the album’s intention, collaborations, and her growth as a woman, artist, and mother.
Jill Scott's appearance on The Breakfast Club captures her vibrant, grounded spirit and the multi-layered intention behind "To Whom This May Concern." The interview offers both musical insight and life wisdom, making clear that Scott's artistry is inseparable from her humanity, self-respect, and evolving philosophy. This episode will resonate deeply with listeners seeking affirmation, permission to grow, and a reminder that joy, authenticity, and creative sovereignty are all attainable—and worth fighting for.
Recommended listening: Play the episode for moving discussions on boundary-setting, financial self-respect, spiritual guidance, and creative freedom—all delivered with Jill Scott’s signature warmth, humor, and poetic gravitas.