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Mandy B
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Charlamagne Tha God
Early in the morning.
Coca-Cola Announcer
The Breakfast Club.
DJ Envy
Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Jess. Hilarious Charlamagne. Th guy. We are the Breakfast Clubs. We got some special guests in the building.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes, Indee.
DJ Envy
We have Mandy B. And Weezy from Horrible Decision, but they changed the name.
Wheezy
Thank you.
Ben
They did.
DJ Envy
Decision Component Podcast.
Charlamagne Tha God
Is that possible?
Mandy B
No.
Wheezy
Yes, it is. It is absolutely possible.
Charlamagne Tha God
You could delete your ownness.
Wheezy
You grow up, you can move to a different city where no one knows you and then want to change your Instagram.
Mandy B
Worked at the grocery store. They said, hey, you can't delete it.
DJ Envy
Well, good morning, ladies.
Jess Hilarious
Good morning.
Charlamagne Tha God
Why did y' all change the name.
Wheezy
For the coins, Charlotte? Oh, not only that. When we started Horrible decisions, we were 26 years old. I was still in college. I was in my last year of college.
Jess Hilarious
Wheezy.
Wheezy
We were both in corporate, and we was kind of living life, doing. Doing all the things, and we just kind of.
Charlamagne Tha God
You was in your whole phase.
Wheezy
We was in our whole phase. I think everyone has a whole phase. And now we're out of it.
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay.
Wheezy
And we just, you know, are growing with our audience.
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay.
Wheezy
And growing with the.
Ben
With the dollars.
Mandy B
To be fair, doing this book, though, you know, I was telling people, like, I want to do Drew Barrymore. I want to do this and that, and I just can't see them saying whore.
Jess Hilarious
Especially not Drew Barrymore. She and I both did Drew Barrymore.
Wheezy
Gonna still rub our knee, though.
Jess Hilarious
And I now she might be like.
Mandy B
And why did you guys feel the need to change? It's okay to be a whore. But no, I mean, with growth and with also wanting to be respected as an author, I feel like for the people that don't know us, everybody that, like, is in the podcast world understands our evolution. And I think that's when we started to Gain our respect to know that, sure, we talk about sex, but it lasted so long. We've been able to catapult into all these different ventures, But a new person, I feel like they're gonna be like, how you feel about your fan?
Jess Hilarious
Like, how you think the fans took it? Like, did y' all took the horrible off?
Wheezy
I think the fans love it.
Mandy B
I think the core fans are happy. I think the casual fans just found a way to get angry at you. Like, people get very excited if they think something bad is going on. You know what I mean? Literally, the second they saw that, horrible would be going behind a paywall. It's like, oh, they fight. And Charlotte don't want that. I heard them with them. Like, you know, it's. They can't wait to feel that. And Mandy and I being that we've been colleagues for so long, we've had on air mess and things like that, I feel like that was the sexiest part of the story. When really now we're so much older, it's like, okay, girl.
DJ Envy
Mandy's celibate, right? You still celibate?
Jess Hilarious
Oh.
Mandy B
Oh, yeah.
Wheezy
Nah, it's over. I. I started the year off, you.
Mandy B
Know, with a baby.
Wheezy
I just seen you a couple of months ago.
DJ Envy
I seen in the comments, like, yo, E, I'm celibate. Fuck that. I'm starting over.
Charlamagne Tha God
That wasn't even a couple months ago. That was a few weeks ago.
Wheezy
It was a couple weeks ago.
Mandy B
That was your Magic city moment.
Jess Hilarious
Yeah.
Wheezy
I love how you said club. You could let them know we were in the city. Oh, yeah.
DJ Envy
It was a magic city.
Wheezy
We was in Magic City.
Mandy B
Tell them to see a magic city.
DJ Envy
Yo, that's the first thing she told me. It wasn't like, e has a family.
Commercial Voice
See?
Mandy B
Yo, what up, E?
DJ Envy
I'm celibate now.
Charlamagne Tha God
I was like, what made you break the celibacy vow?
Wheezy
I saw somebody cute.
DJ Envy
So it wasn't even a relationship.
Charlamagne Tha God
Is it somebody that you was already with sitting up here talking?
Wheezy
Wholeness can't be deleted.
DJ Envy
Jesus Christ.
Wheezy
It is. I mean, it was intimate. It was sensual. We kissed and cuddled.
DJ Envy
Have you seen him since?
Wheezy
He doesn't live in my state. So he's flying to see me? Yes.
Charlamagne Tha God
Wow.
Wheezy
All right, So I put it on him.
Charlamagne Tha God
A one night stand or something?
Mandy B
No, no, no, no.
Wheezy
We're about to go to the second stand.
Charlamagne Tha God
No, I'm saying when y' all deal.
DJ Envy
With me to one night stand, we're not about to go to the second stand. What's the first stand?
Wheezy
The first stand was great. It was when I saw him.
DJ Envy
So y' all didn't date. Y' all just.
Questlove
You seen him.
Wheezy
Okay, now.
DJ Envy
Now you gotta explain it.
Wheezy
I'm just not celibate anymore. And this is what the book is about. About liberation, growth as women getting what you want.
DJ Envy
Did you meet him at Magic City that night?
Wheezy
No, I met him on an island.
Charlamagne Tha God
Ooh.
Wheezy
So you know where Mandy got a move.
Charlamagne Tha God
What island?
Wheezy
St. Croix. Which was.
DJ Envy
So you was on vacation.
Mandy B
Uh huh.
DJ Envy
And you let one of them island boys.
Wheezy
Yes, Manny Dingo. Okay, don't do that. But now I do see why women go to islands. And it was great how you see that. Now I see. Now I see.
Mandy B
Let me tell you, they booked us to go to Hedonism. If no one's ever heard of this.
Charlamagne Tha God
I've been there.
DJ Envy
Charlamagne.
Charlamagne Tha God
Been there.
DJ Envy
We know you been.
Mandy B
We know you've been twice. I had. Didn't. I wasn't dating at anybody at the time. So I'm like, let me just bring somebody. Fine. I know. So there was a ball player that I knew, and I was like, just come. He was in Europe. He was off season. He got there, he wasn't even. He's not crazy basketball player at all. But he was 6, 5, dark skinned and fit. When I tell you every white woman with her husband found us at breakfast.
Wheezy
Oh, yeah.
Mandy B
And they pay sex before we.
Wheezy
In the bushes.
Mandy B
In a bush.
Wheezy
In a bush.
Charlamagne Tha God
But no, that's. What if you like, I went to. He did the most. When I used to work for Wendy Williams at wbls, they used to do radio station trips to Hedonism. So Hedonism is a nudist resort. Parts of it. And they have like, hammocks hanging from the trees. You can have sex in hammocks. You can have sex all over the whole facility if you want to. Yeah. Mirrors on the ceiling.
DJ Envy
No disrespect, but is it a lot of, like, overweight white women?
Charlamagne Tha God
No, no, we.
Wheezy
Well, we went.
Mandy B
Yeah.
Wheezy
There's different things that you could go. Like I'm hosting Heato Labor Day weekend with black travel.
Mandy B
So when a group takes over it, like, we got lucky. But then there was a few parts of the place, they were like, we come every weekend. It was like, oh, yeah.
Wheezy
The white couples definitely go to get. Jamaican. Jamaican people.
Mandy B
By the way, the funniest part of this, I always tell this story because. So first of all, he's already having sex in the bush. We just check in. I'm like, I'm done with him. Already. So there's a nude side and a prude side, right?
Charlamagne Tha God
Yep.
Mandy B
So we.
DJ Envy
Someone goes, yep, yep.
Mandy B
Prune side means you can keep your clothes on. So you know when you're at a resort, you know how to be having the buffets or whatever. So I'm hungry. I go to get a pizza. I'm already irritated with him because all he doing is sleeping with people in the bush. And I'm trying to get some pizza. I'm ordering his pizza, and the security guard comes up and said, ma', am, you have to be naked on this side. I'm like, I gotta get naked just to eat. He's like, yeah, how long is your food gonna take? I had to literally take off my pajamas, hold them in my hand, and sit there naked and wait for food. I was like, this is the worst.
Wheezy
Place ever when I say I loved it.
Jess Hilarious
So when does it become.
Mandy B
When did it become what?
Jess Hilarious
Trafficking. I know trafficking.
Mandy B
I were booked for it. Like, you know, like, we were out there and just like. And we had a great time.
Wheezy
But I've gone out there with friends.
Mandy B
When you're going out there, you can't.
Charlamagne Tha God
And they pay you. Like, these couples be paying. Like, you might be out there, and you might holla at a woman, and she might be like, hold on, I'm gonna get my husband. Or they might come up to you and be like, y' all get 1500 if you let.
DJ Envy
If.
Charlamagne Tha God
If you let my husband watch us have sex.
Wheezy
Now, see, we didn't get offered for those type of things, Charlotte. Were they.
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, yeah.
Wheezy
So maybe it's the men. The men should go out there and make some money then.
DJ Envy
So lady came up to you and wanted to see you smash her husband.
Charlamagne Tha God
First of all, let's put this in context. This was like 2006, 2007, I was on the balcony, and I was like, yeah, you know, girl.
DJ Envy
Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
Like, y. Y. And she like, hold on, let me go get my husband. And then she was like, yeah, we can do it. But my. But my husband gotta watch.
Mandy B
Oh, wow.
DJ Envy
So after he knocks it off.
Charlamagne Tha God
No, I didn't knock it off.
DJ Envy
Okay.
Charlamagne Tha God
I did not knock it off. No.
Mandy B
So that's the thing that really kind of makes that whole thing beautiful. As much as I'm joking about it, all of this is normal for these people in the world. You know what I mean? Like, a lot of the things we talk about, even as normal to us, if I say my man and I are going on a date with somebody, people looking at me like I'm Crazy. But this is normal for me. So when I'm at Hedonism and I'm watching cuckolding going on, which is really what it is. This is normal for them and they like to be amongst their people. I just did happen to be one of the people that want to get pizza with clothes on. Excuse me, but yeah, no, it's a no for me.
Charlamagne Tha God
You only change nothing but the name.
Wheezy
Don't do that.
DJ Envy
That's it.
Wheezy
We're growing.
Mandy B
I'm trying to think mine.
Wheezy
What?
Mandy B
Besides this blazer, what's the biggest rebrand thing of me?
Jess Hilarious
I will say this.
Mandy B
I think now I'm so over communicative. We're in the beginning of horrible decisions. I wasn't talking about exactly what I wanted. My feelings, even the type of sex that I wanted to have, like situationships, I was falling into them all the time. I think as you evolve and you get more comfortable with yourself and who you are, that's when it hits. I actually don't think that could happen before 30, if I'm being honest. I think you could try to get close to it, but there's something that happens at 30 where it just clicks. You're like, oh, no, this is no, 30.
Wheezy
You. You look better, you feel better, you make more money, you know, a little bit more of what you want. You didn't dealt with enough men in your teens and twenties that now you can be like, okay, I don't want that, but this is what I want.
DJ Envy
Do y' all want a monogamous relationship?
Wheezy
No.
Jess Hilarious
Do y' all want marriage? Anybody want marriage?
Mandy B
Yeah, I don't.
DJ Envy
Do you want a monogamous relationship?
Mandy B
Not monogamous, but I mean, of course I want marriage. I mean, like.
Wheezy
What if.
Mandy B
Listen, if we're not gonna have sex with a nanny, what's the point?
Wheezy
No, I mean, yeah, go ahead. I mean, I'm dating.
Charlamagne Tha God
But why?
DJ Envy
Why, why, why not?
Mandy B
Not monogamy.
DJ Envy
Both of you? Yeah. Why start with you?
Mandy B
Just doesn't fit my lifestyle. Like, I. I've been known for having a boyfriend and a girlfriend since I've been 20 years old. Like, it's, It's.
Charlamagne Tha God
It doesn't matter what you're known for or what you want, though.
State Farm Announcer
It's a difference.
Mandy B
We had a conversation about this last night. I did a podcast where I mentioned that I believe Mandy and I have done this so well because we really live this life. And a lot of times what's kind of hurt me from the public is people say, oh, you're just doing that. To keep them. Or you let your man have sex with someone else because you want to keep them. And it's like, you think, I'd be doing this for eight years if I really didn't enjoy this. I honestly have fun with it. And I feel like when I'm dating someone that's more monogamous. Mainly when I date religious men, they look at me like I'm trash. And I know you date religious men.
Wheezy
Why would you do that?
Mandy B
You know, a little.
Wheezy
Jesus, I'll never do that again.
DJ Envy
What about you, man?
Wheezy
Ethnomonogamy. I want to throw that word in there. So that's where, like, it's consensual. There's, like, there are boundaries. You are communicating, and it's under the umbrella where you could be poly open. There's. You could be swingers. There's all these different labels underneath. Ethical, non monogamy. For me, I like men and women, and I don't want to not be able to experience both. Gotcha off of that.
DJ Envy
So would y' all date bisexual men? And the reason I asked that, who was up here? And they said that it wouldn't bother them.
Mandy B
Damn.
Jess Hilarious
Dochi, Dochi, Dochi.
Wheezy
I heard Dochi talk about it.
DJ Envy
Would y' all mind?
Wheezy
It wouldn't bother me.
DJ Envy
No, I don't want to see it.
Mandy B
For me, it's a caveat. So the thing that attracts me to women is their femininity. Like, I've never dated a stud, right? No disrespect to his studs.
Charlamagne Tha God
I just hated on the stud because.
Mandy B
You feel like you got it. Punky came on horrible. I was like, oh, no, Is she cooking?
Wheezy
Britney Griner, the only stud.
Mandy B
We all got one.
Wheezy
I want Brittany Griner.
Jess Hilarious
That's it.
Wheezy
That's the only one.
Mandy B
As far as men, I love the masculinity in men. And so if I was dating a bisexual man, that maybe like a homo thug I could do.
Wheezy
That's what I'm saying. Like, they're so masculine.
Mandy B
Give me one of them atl.
DJ Envy
Like, so you wouldn't mind, but he just got to be a thug. You want to thug on the thug.
Mandy B
There's also levels to it, right? So I really, truly believe every man has had some sort of experience.
Wheezy
I think everybody a little gay.
Jess Hilarious
For real?
Wheezy
For real.
Mandy B
Even you and your kid watch them.
Charlamagne Tha God
In another find a little gay.
Wheezy
Like, there's a. There's a. There's a spectrum. The Kinsey scale. Everyone is not all the way fully straight or fully gay. Yes. K I N S T y like a little gay. Like you can. You can even. And it could be as little as you can actually admit that another man is attractive or a good looking man.
Jess Hilarious
Or you could have a man be classified as gay. Why can't.
Wheezy
Well, because it's. It's the attraction attract is different.
Mandy B
But.
DJ Envy
But no, you can say a man is handsome, but attractive means you feel something towards you. Take that back.
Charlamagne Tha God
Say a man is handsome. You did. You did.
DJ Envy
I was a little gay.
Jess Hilarious
Because you do have men that won't.
Mandy B
Even do that then I think you know there's so many men that would say they ran trains in high school. There's another man that wouldn't get naked in. Yeah, trains, threesomes. Like there is levels. I don't think that's cake by the way.
Questlove
Way.
Wheezy
That's why I said a little. That's not gay.
DJ Envy
If you don't stick your penis in a male. That's not gay.
Mandy B
But why you and another man are.
Jess Hilarious
Enjoying got your dicks out.
Charlamagne Tha God
Did you hear what just say not gay if you stick your penis in a man.
DJ Envy
No, I said it's not gay.
Jess Hilarious
You not sticking your penis in the mail.
DJ Envy
So you hear what you want to hear.
Charlamagne Tha God
It's not gay if you stick a penis in.
DJ Envy
You got gay ears your ear.
Wheezy
So it be as long as it's oral then. No, it's fine. Okay.
DJ Envy
No.
Wheezy
A hand job?
DJ Envy
No.
Wheezy
Okay. I just.
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay. I'm looking at the Kinsey scale.
Wheezy
See, it's a real thing.
Charlamagne Tha God
It says X. No social. No socio sexual contacts or reactions. 0 is exclusively heterosexual. 1 mostly heterosexual, only slightly homosexual. 2 mostly heterosexual, but more than slightly homosexual. 3, equally heterosexual and homosexual. 4 mostly homosexual, but more than slightly heterosexual. 5, mostly homosexual, only slightly heterosexual. And 6 is all homo.
DJ Envy
Charlotte's about a 5.
Jess Hilarious
I just like the days where you.
Mandy B
Were straight or gay. That's a lot.
Wheezy
Yeah, that's a lot.
Mandy B
Yeah. By the way, I have a friend of mine, his name is Christopher. And on New Year's five, six years ago, I'll never forget, I kissed him like, oh my God, he's gay. Kiss him. He looked at me and he was like, you bitch, I am gay. Gay. And now you ruined it.
Charlamagne Tha God
He's a six.
Mandy B
He's a six.
Charlamagne Tha God
He'S a six.
Mandy B
When I tell you he was really upset with me. I was like, I'm so confused. I just thought you were having fun. He's like, no, no, I am not. Gold star. He's like, I didn't even have. I came from a C section I'm platinum. He was like, you kissed me. You ruined this.
Jess Hilarious
You messed him up. Now he felt a little straight.
Mandy B
That's who I would define as a six.
Charlamagne Tha God
I know one thing. Toronto might have to re six that six thing. Knowing that six is the highest on the Kinsey scale.
Mandy B
That's funny.
Charlamagne Tha God
Exclusively homosexual if you're a six. That's what it says on the King scale.
Mandy B
I was like, you all the way gay. No, you give me hot straight girl that got one lesbian friend and she be doing this.
Jess Hilarious
She be like, nah, bitch, that, yeah, that, that's me. But I ain't going to lie. Back in the day, yeah, I had a couple gay experiences.
Mandy B
Yeah. Like kiss.
Jess Hilarious
A little bit more to kiss, but you know. Yeah, I. I dated a stud for like a little minute until I found out she was married and she ended up being a clown.
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, you number two. And then, yeah, mostly heterosexual, but more than slightly homosexual.
DJ Envy
It might be a little three, cuz.
Mandy B
She dated a stud. So that always tells me like you kind of are the straight girl. That's like where you could dive into to it.
Jess Hilarious
Because I don't, I don't find like the, the femmes to be like, yeah, you're beautiful to me, but I'm not. I wouldn't be attracted to a feminine girl. Like, it's like, I get it. No, no, for me, I like that.
DJ Envy
But y' all have the same crush too. Y' all too Mandy. You and Manny at the same crush.
Wheezy
I think a lot of people have a crush on her. Yeah.
Jess Hilarious
Until I call. Until I heard her call herself Pops. I'm like, damn.
Mandy B
Oh no.
DJ Envy
You know what's wrong with Pops?
Mandy B
There's certain things you could say that make you just instant corny.
Jess Hilarious
Like no masculine energy.
Wheezy
You see what I mean?
Mandy B
No, no, I'm saying like, well, she.
Jess Hilarious
Already got the voice of God. I mean, that just sound like the whole thing. But I mean, I just, you know, she ain't like when she was doing an interview and Shane, like when somebody was like. The girl was like, oh, you about to be a mom. You about to, you know, she was like, nah, Pops. Like she got serious.
Charlamagne Tha God
I remember that.
Wheezy
I was like, damn.
Jess Hilarious
But I. But I wouldn't just assume that if I never heard her say that, like, I wouldn't have said, congratulations, yo, your mom. I wouldn't just be like, yo, congratulations, like you pops now. Cause I think that that would offend her, but she was offended at her being called a mom.
DJ Envy
Gotcha.
Jess Hilarious
I told Brittany, daddy, damn. Yeah, Brittany Looked good.
Mandy B
I would. Let me tell you something. When all that stuff was going on, I was like, we gotta get her out. We gotta get her out.
Jess Hilarious
But I'm okay with still having the crash. I'm okay with letting her go. Mandy can't have her. Cause my boyfriend looked just like her.
Mandy B
So. That's crazy.
Wheezy
That is crazy.
Mandy B
Listen, as someone that also has a pretty boyfriend, I know how it feels. I went and took him to a show, and it was a lesbian show. It. It like, literally, like a queer comedy night. And she was like, oh, yeah, I saw you over there with your girlfriend. I was like, that's a man. And he just got dressed and he pretty. See, it sucks, but it's great.
Charlamagne Tha God
Your man get flight shooter, though.
Mandy B
No, he do give shooters.
Charlamagne Tha God
Slight shooter.
State Farm Announcer
Right?
Mandy B
He gives slight shooter too. Yeah, but he's a hotel. It's weird. Like, he looks like he's a.
Commercial Voice
What?
Mandy B
He's a hotel.
DJ Envy
A hotel.
Mandy B
He makes. I'm. We're fasting right now. I'm so. I'm about to die on this table. He's. We fast.
DJ Envy
What the is a hotel?
Wheezy
That is not what it is. This is.
Mandy B
There's no way that this hasn't crossed over to you.
DJ Envy
A hotel. What the is a whole tap. I've been with Charlamagne, man. I feel like with a hotel.
Charlamagne Tha God
I know what a hotel is. I don't know what a hotel is, but I know what a hotel is.
Wheezy
It's a hotel.
Mandy B
Okay, I'm being facetious.
DJ Envy
What's the whole tip?
Mandy B
A hotel is like, you know, one of them. Like, oh, meditative. Like, all pro black power to the people. Like, we can't be doing xyz, but.
DJ Envy
Like, the fuck hoes.
Jess Hilarious
Yo. He's still on the whole part.
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, no.
DJ Envy
Whole part of it.
Jess Hilarious
That's it.
Mandy B
To be fair. Do you know who 19 Keys is?
DJ Envy
Yes, I do know 19 Keys.
Mandy B
That's my favorite hotel. I joke.
Charlamagne Tha God
It's an Egyptian word that means to be at peace.
Mandy B
It does mean at peace, which was what?
DJ Envy
But y' all said hotel, so I'm just thinking something.
Wheezy
Of course you are. Of course you are.
Questlove
Together.
Jess Hilarious
So with decisions, decisions. Is it less sex talk? Like, is it less.
Mandy B
Yeah, yeah.
Wheezy
We're leaning more into the conversations around relationships. So non traditional relationships, non monogamy. All the ways that you don't have to go about the traditional way of dating and pursuing love, essentially, because us growing up, what is it? Get married, have kids, live happily ever after. That's not everyone's reality, but it's cool.
Mandy B
Because we're diving into history, which we always kind of did during horrible. But now it's fun. Like, we're talking. We talk about the history of romance, the first date. Even the history of romance is dope. I was. When we were talking about the first date, like, how the first date was different, There had to be a male caller at your home, knocking on the door, asking your parents. They were supervising you.
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, I'm an idiot. I thought you meant, like, y' all documented the first date ever in history. Cause you said history. I was like, oh, the first date.
Mandy B
We ended up in a climate machine. How it evolves over time. Even the history of romance. How, you know, you marry for, like.
DJ Envy
You'Re talking to some dumb hoes right here.
Charlamagne Tha God
I'm not a hoe, okay? I retired a long time ago.
Wheezy
Me too.
Mandy B
Nothing. Just dumb. Me too. Now, the history of the romance shit was crazy because it basically, romance was a sickness. And they believed when people were in battle or in war, they would start a war over love. And they were like, oh, yeah, you can't fall in love. So that's why you would marry for agriculture, socioeconomic stuff. And it's just fun to dive into this because we already have been talking about sex and dating so long, so now we just get to go back and people enjoy learning about stuff with us, and we're not scholars, so that's what makes it fun to me.
DJ Envy
Not now, also. So now you got a book coming out as well?
Ben
We do.
Wheezy
We do, under Charlemagne's imprint.
DJ Envy
What's the name of the book?
Wheezy
No holes. Borrowed. It's a duo. Any hole, no hose.
Ben
Barred.
Wheezy
Listen, all of them. It's a dual manifesto of sexual exploration and power. And so we each dive into our journeys as women. I did a lot of diving in therapy, like, going all the way back to, like, my childhood, as to maybe why I date, the type of men I date, what type of men I date, my views. I mean, everything that's not. My daddy so non short Jamaicans.
DJ Envy
Jesus.
Wheezy
But I go into that and even as early as me talking about my journey of having anal sex and how I used to think any man that wanted it was. Was gay because I was like, well, why would you want the back hole when there's another hole? And so I'm five.
Mandy B
Oh, that was funny.
Charlamagne Tha God
Mackenzie skin.
Mandy B
Like, just mid.
Jess Hilarious
No, but it was.
Wheezy
It, like, goes through my journey of even, like, having to relearn and unlearn the things that aren't true. And then we even get deep and we talk about, like, our sexual assaults. I talk about my abortion when I was 16.
Mandy B
The book is broken down is cool because, like, when we get into that stuff, so it's pleasure, pain, progression and power. So, like, in the pain section, that's when abortion and sexual assault comes up. But there's also a story of a dude, bdsm. Bdsm. Like, tying me up, spanking me, choking me. Like, Mandy getting electrocuted. That's my favorite. I love.
DJ Envy
Electrocuted. It was great.
Wheezy
I went to a dungeon with my ex, and we agreed to both do two things that we had never done before. So he agreed to put. Allow me to put him in a chastity belt, which took some time because he kept growing and he couldn't grow in order to lock him in. And then I allowed him to do electroshock inside of me with a tool.
Jess Hilarious
What happened to me?
DJ Envy
What do you mean?
Mandy B
Inside of you?
DJ Envy
A dildo.
Mandy B
Electric.
Wheezy
Yeah. And so, like, it, like, spawned all of these electrocurrents inside of me. And it was the best feeling. It felt like almost like an alien. I was like, I'm never gonna feel this again. It felt like eight tongues inside of me giving me oral at once. It was. It was the best feeling. I was like, this ain't a normal feeling you gotta get. It was great, though.
Jess Hilarious
So that's why you can't be one person. One person can't just be one person.
Charlamagne Tha God
Well.
Wheezy
And to be honest, I don't ride. I don't ride. So I would love for my partner to be able to experience everything he wants to experience that I'm not down.
DJ Envy
What you mean?
State Farm Announcer
On ride.
Wheezy
I don't get on top. Let me go get you somebody acrobatic.
Jess Hilarious
You mean you can be electrocuted, but you can't.
Wheezy
But I ain't getting on top. But I ain't getting on top. Nope.
Mandy B
Dang. It takes more effort, I guess.
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, yeah.
Wheezy
I just came back from Carnival, and the way them girls were winding their hips and doing all the splits, I said, my man deserves to experience a woman that flexible. It ain't me, though.
Charlamagne Tha God
Isn't that a position of power for women, though, when they look up?
DJ Envy
When.
Mandy B
Yeah. When they're what?
Jess Hilarious
In my opinion.
Mandy B
And it's the strongest orgasm for women.
Wheezy
That's great that y' all receive it that way.
DJ Envy
You ain't got no rhythm.
Commercial Voice
No.
Mandy B
No.
Wheezy
Oh, me, I'm half white. No.
Charlamagne Tha God
Half Jamaican.
Jess Hilarious
I knew it.
Wheezy
I know. So it goes. It goes both. It goes both. It goes both. You know I do a little bit of everything.
Mandy B
Okay. All right.
Jess Hilarious
Well, what. What makes you have an orgasm?
Wheezy
Oh, penetration. Which is why I can't be fully gay. Like. And I want. I want a member with a.
Mandy B
With a pulse.
Wheezy
That is literally gayness.
Mandy B
This is what we do.
Wheezy
No, no, no.
Jess Hilarious
I want.
Wheezy
I want.
Mandy B
It ain't really them right here. I don't want nobody.
Wheezy
I'm not like that.
DJ Envy
I want.
Wheezy
But I like a man body. There's just so many things I like about man.
DJ Envy
A girl could knock you off with a strap on, though, right?
Wheezy
Yeah, no, it needs to have a pulse. I like the finishing. What comes.
DJ Envy
Girls have pulses. Oh, you mean the strap on.
Mandy B
The strap on.
Wheezy
It's just what she said, though.
Charlamagne Tha God
She likes the finish and I like the.
Wheezy
I like straps either.
Mandy B
Like, when I had a girlfriend, we maybe once in a blue used them for fun. And after a while we was like, nah, it's just something about it. Maybe because her and I both slept with men before, it's just like, no, that's not what we hear about.
Wheezy
Oh, yeah, no. And I like the finish.
Mandy B
I feel like I've always felt that toys. So something I talk about in the book even is like, I realized after having a girlfriend that gay sex, as far as lesbian sex is that we see, is really for the male gaze. It's not that sexy. It's not that pretty. Sometimes you be rubbing your coochie be on the neck arm. It's like you start rubbing stuff everywhere. It's not exactly what we think it is.
Charlamagne Tha God
Nothing crazier than watching two lesbians with a scrap on and one of them sucking the scrap on. And the person that got the scrap on is Monica.
Jess Hilarious
It's a form of mental illness because sex is.
Wheezy
Sex is actually 90% psychological.
Charlamagne Tha God
But you moaning while you sucking a scrap on.
Wheezy
Okay, so no one moans when they suck you.
Charlamagne Tha God
But it's a strap on.
Wheezy
But I'm not feeling anything by giving it to you. And I'm. I may be moaning.
Charlamagne Tha God
I got the scrap on.
Wheezy
Right now.
Charlamagne Tha God
But I'm just saying, it just seems that's because you.
Jess Hilarious
Right after you finish sucking, I could take it off and throw it in the closet. So I think that's what he's saying. Like, how.
Mandy B
Okay, but it's like you can be having phone sex and you moan and like she said, you could be giving and you moan. There's something about the action. And also keeping in mind this is how I want to play because it's.
Wheezy
Sexy watching you do it.
Mandy B
This is all bdsm.
Commercial Voice
Right?
Mandy B
So you're being in the dominant position. That's how people wearing it get off. It's like they know that you're on your knees, you're being submissive, humiliate, whatever the word is. So that's where they're getting a turn off from. Got you.
DJ Envy
So what was your crazy sexual experience? If that was hers getting electrocuted, what's yours?
Wheezy
Hers is nasty.
DJ Envy
Oh, no, hers is nasty.
Mandy B
Oh, wait, no. It actually can't go on radio, but.
Charlamagne Tha God
I'll just say we'll put it behind the Patreon. Go ahead.
State Farm Announcer
Okay.
DJ Envy
Y' all got a Patreon?
Mandy B
This ain't going on YouTube.
Wheezy
No, they don't have a Patreon.
Charlamagne Tha God
She said, okay, It'll be on YouTube.
Wheezy
She got something about blood, girl.
DJ Envy
Yeah.
Wheezy
See?
Mandy B
Okay, here's what happened.
DJ Envy
Oh, boy.
Mandy B
My man.
Ben
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State Farm Announcer
What a matchup we got, y'.
Mandy B
All.
State Farm Announcer
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DJ Envy
Hey, what up, y'? All? It's DJ Envy. And the holidays are here. The time of year that's all about connecting with loved ones in person or over the phone. In fact, hearing someone's voice can evoke a similar emotional response as a hug. And while most of us can hop on a video chat to really bring that connection to life, using tech isn't easy for everyone, especially some of the older folk in our lives. AT&T has been doing something special here to help. They offer digital literacy workshops that help older adults learn how to use technology to do things most of us take for granted, like video conferencing and sharing photos. Take Nancy Shand. She joined one of AT&T's workshops to learn how to video chat for the first time this holiday season. Nancy won't just be hearing about family gatherings, she'll be a part of them, sharing stories, opening presents, and making memories all through a screen. Nobody should have to go through the holiday season alone. So be sure to connect and stay connected to your loved ones this holiday season.
Commercial Voice
Connecting changes everything. AT&T.
Charlamagne Tha God
Hey, audiobook lovers. This week on the podcast I'm sitting.
Questlove
Down with musician, producer, and walking encyclopedia Questlove. We're talking about Mark Ronson's memoir, Night.
Charlamagne Tha God
People how to be a DJ in.
Mandy B
90S New York City.
Charlamagne Tha God
All right, like we talked about before, Mark Ronson found sanctuary in the DJ booth. What's a tool or piece of equipment.
Questlove
In the studio or on stage that gives you the most control?
Coca-Cola Announcer
So I have two microphones on stage. We have the microphone that you hear as the audience. Then we have a second microphone in which we communicate with each other. I feel like that second microphone kind of saved all of our friendships. No band likes each other after 20 years or 25 years. The Beatles broke up in seven and a half years, and we're going on 35.
Questlove
Listen to Earsay, the Audible and iHeart Audiobook Club. On the iHeartradio app or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Mandy B
Like, I think I was having a bad day, and I was like, oh, my God, you don't love me. I feel bad, you know, but just be complaining. I've dated them, so I know. And he was like, why are you feeling like that? Why do you feel like just cause you're on your period, I don't love you. I'm not attracted to you. And I was like, I just feel that way. And we were in the car, and he put the car in park, and he said, put your fingers inside of yourself. I'm like, no. And then he did it. He ate it. And he said, you think I love you now? And it was like. It was like, saltburn vampire.
DJ Envy
Now. You broke up with that man?
Mandy B
What you mean? He my man right now.
Charlamagne Tha God
Damn, man. You ain't had to put him out there like that. But my God damn, I would say he from Brooklyn, right? Vampire from Brooklyn, vampire from the Bronx, then. God damn.
Mandy B
But you know what it is that's really dope about it. Yes. You're listening to this right now, watching this. You're like, this is disgusting. But I think it's just that when you have no boundaries with someone, it's sexy.
Charlamagne Tha God
Y' all gotta get married.
Mandy B
Oh, of course we are.
State Farm Announcer
Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
You just told everybody on the radio, I hate you out on your period. We gotta get married now.
Wheezy
That is not what she said.
DJ Envy
She was like.
Charlamagne Tha God
Like a little bit.
Mandy B
But I did put that in the book because I was like, yo, every time we re.
Jess Hilarious
I.
Mandy B
You think you've reached a level sexually.
Jess Hilarious
You know something else.
Mandy B
So, so many things on our list. But listen, I'm not judging. We definitely live a wholesome life. Like we. Huh? I was saying we had a threesome with this woman, went on a date with her. It was a wild night. So wholesome. And my father, he's in a. A nursing home right now, and we had to make sure we were there in the morning to go see him. We got up, we're sitting there playing checkers and stuff. We looking at each other like. And we really just fucked this bitch last night. We really here having this family moment. It's like our sex life is our sex life.
Charlamagne Tha God
We ain't bring your daddy no hoes. That's what he really need. Daddy won't do.
Wheezy
My parents are still married. Oh, okay.
Mandy B
That's what's funny about it.
Charlamagne Tha God
And your mama fine.
Mandy B
Thank you. And she would love to hear that. She knows she loves you.
Commercial Voice
She is.
Mandy B
She went to go to Charlamagne's book tour. And she was like. He was looking at me, and I was like, Is it because he knows who I am or he's looking at me, girl.
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay, both.
Mandy B
Happy birthday.
DJ Envy
He likes older women.
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, happy born days.
DJ Envy
Happy birthday.
Wheezy
Happy birthday.
Jess Hilarious
When is the birthday?
Mandy B
13Th. Oh, sorry. It's 14th. Okay. Whatever day it is. I don't know. We're hoes. We don't know.
Jess Hilarious
Have y' all ever been sexually?
Ben
Never.
Mandy B
Okay, never.
DJ Envy
Yeah, you said that so fast. Like, I don't even look at her like that.
Jess Hilarious
Have y' all ever had sex?
Mandy B
Have you ever.
Wheezy
We've never. Okay, never.
Mandy B
Why would you.
Jess Hilarious
Was you really about to ask me? Why do people think that?
Commercial Voice
Are you crazy?
Mandy B
Are you serious? To be honest, I don't feel like Mandy and I give the energy. Like, we've been.
Charlamagne Tha God
I've been listening to harbor for a long time. There was a point where I was like, yo, they gotta be some sexuality.
Jess Hilarious
Definitely bumping.
Charlamagne Tha God
I did feel like that for a second.
Wheezy
No, no.
Mandy B
Oh, my God. It's just y'. All.
Ben
I mean.
Jess Hilarious
No, no. Y' all don't seem like lovers at all or nothing like that, but, I mean, with all this y' all got in. In common and how y' all just so.
Mandy B
Well, Mandy did watch me have sex, and she reminded me. So we're sitting with.
Wheezy
I didn't really watch. I was just on the bed.
Mandy B
Okay, if now you was that horny.
DJ Envy
You couldn't say, Mandy, can you leave?
Mandy B
Oh, no, no.
DJ Envy
I'm so scared.
Mandy B
No, no, no.
Wheezy
She was scared. Cause she met him at the club. We was like, 16, using fake IDs down in Miami Memorial Day weekend. She found a guy she liked at the club.
Mandy B
Yes.
Wheezy
I thought we'd be fighting.
Mandy B
Let me tell you what's crazy about it. For, like, 20 years, I forgot this story, right? So we're talking about our co, Arthur, and she's trying to dig stories out of us. So I said, you know, it's crazy. I've never had a one night stand. Mandy's like, that's a lie. I'm like, no, it's not. She's like, I was right there on the bed, and I was like, oh, now anything pre titties I feel like don't count.
Wheezy
See, this is why. See, the wholeness can be deleted. She talking about Candace, like, saying, you.
Jess Hilarious
Can take miles off a car.
Mandy B
You can't do that.
Wheezy
No, it was like, yeah, literally. I mean, that was kind of back in the day, you know, like cell phone. I think we had sidekicks back then. Like, it wasn't to where, you know, you had so much access. So she wanted to fuck him. So I was like, okay, I'm gonna sit at 16.
Mandy B
I was fake ID and everything. Oh, yeah.
DJ Envy
So y' all went down to Miami.
Wheezy
We drove to Miami.
Mandy B
We lived in Orlando. We had no teen pregnancies. We lived. I said, we didn't have a teen pregnancy. Oh, yeah.
Wheezy
I got rid of it.
Charlamagne Tha God
How old was the guys?
Mandy B
Clearly he was. Maybe they were 18, I think it.
Jess Hilarious
Was like, I'm not trying to be.
Wheezy
Not in Miami, at least 21.
Jess Hilarious
Bro.
Wheezy
To be in a club in Miami is 21 and up for guys. We have fake IDs.
Mandy B
You think they ain't got fake IDs, Mandy?
Jess Hilarious
Nah, they were some jits.
Mandy B
They were staying together.
Wheezy
Cause you didn't even remember him. Don't try to sit here and confront me.
DJ Envy
Back then, everybody was staying with each other. Back then, nobody had no money. It was like nine of us, and.
Mandy B
Then it was no shame.
DJ Envy
No shame. Now you can't do that.
Wheezy
He had money. So he wasn't 19 because he had his own room. He wasn't sharing with nobody.
Mandy B
That wasn't no courtyard.
Wheezy
It don't matter.
Mandy B
Yo, let me tell you.
DJ Envy
Oh, my goodness.
Mandy B
When I was really reflecting on this.
Wheezy
Book, this is chaos. This. I thought this was going to be way more different. You came in with a blazer. I have on plaid. I don't understand how we're taking it here.
Mandy B
Y' all wanted us to spice up y' all morning and see, like, let's go back to being okay.
Jess Hilarious
So what is trip house?
Mandy B
Oh, girl, explain. So I've been going to workouts in New York for almost a decade. And I love Pilates inspired movement and I love lifting. And so literally, I went to a Pilates class. I'm not even joking. It was February this year. And I was saying to the Instructor like, oh my God, girl, that was such an amazing workout. Thank you. Like, like I needed some, like, some trap or something. She's like, I'd never play that here. And made me feel so small, like. And I was like this, like, I really was like, I'll make that.
DJ Envy
And that's dope.
Mandy B
I. And it's funny because someone said to me when I made it, do you know Envy wants to do hip hop Pilates?
DJ Envy
Who told you that?
Mandy B
It was just. Maybe it was just someone I mentioned.
DJ Envy
I thought about it because I don't tell nobody, especially not him. But I go to Pilates, right?
Charlamagne Tha God
Why do I care if you go to Pilates?
DJ Envy
Because I don't want you to pull up on me looking my ass when I'm out there. But anyway.
Jess Hilarious
Looking at his ass.
Charlamagne Tha God
Looking.
DJ Envy
What'S on your mind? So you're a little gay.
Charlamagne Tha God
He might be a three or four.
DJ Envy
But when you go to Pilates, there's never no music that you. There's no hip hop music.
Mandy B
And it's hard. You're shaking, you know what I'm saying? So literally, my favorite genres of music of all time and I listen to everything is trapping house music. So I was gonna buy an apartment in New York, right? I had money. I was like, I got 150 camera. Buy a million dollar house. And I was like, nah, it's either that or start a business. So because I'm not a fitness trainer, I had to, you know, partner with someone. And so I found my favorite instructor in New York, black dude. His name is Jeff Blue. And I was like, yo, I want you to make this. And he literally was like, trapped in Pilates. I'm like, I'm telling you, dog. And he did everything. We flew him to LA to learn Legree. That's the really hard kind. And like training these instructors to do things that people have never done. So. And it's funny because you'll see buff ass dudes coming and doing. They come in and they shake in like crazy. And then they go in the other one and they're shaking. And then the little girls that are super tiny can't do the lifting. So everybody's doing something different. But even as I've evolved, my partner, Breonda, she's like, all right, who's making the music? I'm like, me, I got good music. She's like, that's not enough. So I had to get a music director. And every step of the way, I've tried to make this elevated just so a bitch can't knock. You know, when it's a black owned business, they be like, you ain't got this. Even the candles. I wanted five dollar candles. I'm like, gotta be a little labo. Every single thing. I made that. I wanted to be luxury. Especially because you're walking in there and you hear Jeezy talking about hot Cheetos. Like, it. It get real ghetto.
Charlamagne Tha God
It looks like business is booming, though. From what I see on Instagram, I.
Mandy B
Haven'T been able to take a class because it's been so busy. I wait because of relations, though. That's what's up.
DJ Envy
As I said, I want to do a group trip there. Right? And. And you got to come to Charlamagne.
Charlamagne Tha God
I don't want to be sexually harassed.
DJ Envy
But I want to take a group trip there and put everybody in Pilates for 50 minutes.
Jess Hilarious
Oh, my God.
Wheezy
Oh, it's hard, especially for the people that haven't done Pilates.
Mandy B
Oh, I know.
Wheezy
Oh, it's.
DJ Envy
I go.
Wheezy
It's not.
DJ Envy
I used to go four times a week. Five times a week. My wife and my daughter, we go together.
Mandy B
Oh, so you're gonna be good. It's mega performer, though.
DJ Envy
Okay. Yeah, that's. That's fine. We do it all, but I. I enjoy it. People don't know how difficult it is, but how it helps you as well, as far as strength is concerned.
Mandy B
Yeah. Why they don't either? The look of pilates is skinny blonde, white. Yeah.
Jess Hilarious
Honestly, I'm sitting here like, I ain't never had a desire to do it.
Mandy B
So I was making jokes like, oh, we gonna open. We're gonna have these white girls and they gonna be like, oh, what is Gucci mane break? Like, I really thought that was gonna happen. When I tell you all black women, and it's mind blowing to me. I actually wasn't ready for that. But just TikTok. We were literally working out when I was in there the other day, and it was none of my coochie. I was like, this is crazy.
Jess Hilarious
None of my coochie.
Mandy B
Oh, okay. I do like her.
Charlamagne Tha God
How did you promote it? How did you get the word out so fast?
Mandy B
Okay. So I truthfully was really worried about strategy because I didn't know. So I posted myself making something cool. You know, when you can have a tastemaker vibe. Like, people know I like to party. They know I like music. I thought that would work. It literally was just people tiktoking. We've never made one TikTok. It's just genuine.
Wheezy
A girl's like, listen, that's why. Listen, that ain't going away on a night she about to hurt a whole lot. It's gonna affect the economy. Like, there's a lot of people that make money off of there.
Charlamagne Tha God
Frank McCourt's gonna buy it. Frank McCourt and Project Liberty, everybody.
DJ Envy
But there's nothing like that. And I always say, the. The biggest businesses. What makes people rich is to have something that nobody else has. Right? And there's so many minorities that love Pilates. I'm the only black guy. When I go, I'm usually the only guy. When I go Dominican, I'm black. But when I do go, I hate the music. So the fact that I was there, the first thing I said, where is it? I want to go. You know what I mean? Because I want to try it out. Because I would love to do it. Because it's already painful, right? You already trying to focus. But if I had the music that I enjoy, it makes it fun now, and I can really go through it. So we're going to do a family trip there.
Mandy B
I'll give me the code for Everybody. Breakfast is 10 bucks off. Even if you've already been, you can still use it, but with the house music. By the way, my mom is a Studio 54 girl. She's a black woman. I've been listening to house music my whole life. I've always thought it was black. I feel like all we know is show me love. But house music is black. Yeah. I mean, I'm not playing out. I'm playing that.
DJ Envy
Follow me.
Charlamagne Tha God
Why'd you spell it H, A, U, S?
Mandy B
Because I'm bougie.
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay. Okay. Because, I mean, it can still read as trap hose is what I'm saying.
Mandy B
Oh, here you go.
Charlamagne Tha God
So that's something. Like, why. Why did you spell it like that?
Mandy B
To be honest, it was because I feel like when we see the year or like, a different version of house, we always think, oh, this is, like, kind of, you know. And then I felt like a house. If someone googled it, they might find, like, a weed store.
Jess Hilarious
Yeah, Trap house.
Mandy B
Now, by the way, I wanted to call it Trap Pilates, but shout out. I don't know who they are, but, you know, the trademark was taken in Atlanta, so. But we already know Atlanta got trapped, Lottie.
DJ Envy
I'm sure they probably got.
Mandy B
But I mean, my goal, like, people be asking me to franchise. We've been open six days. People like, oh, can we franchise it? I'm like, oh, yeah. Like, I gotta learn from every white city.
DJ Envy
Congratulations.
Mandy B
But, yeah, yeah, give me your money.
Charlamagne Tha God
People don't talk about your entrepreneurial ventures enough. You know what I'm saying? You got WTF Media. Mandy, you had the studio.
Wheezy
I still have it over there. Yeah. It's just now need to Know studios.
DJ Envy
Yeah.
Wheezy
But I. I relocated to Atlanta. I have other opportunities professionally down there. But yeah. And right now I'm working on scripts and pitching those. I just wrote another proposal for a book. After writing the book with you, I definitely just love the process, so I want to continue doing that. Um, and yeah, I think over the last eight years, I think that's why we've been able to keep this going because we've both been able to just branch out individually and do the things that we really like to do.
Mandy B
So turning over your money that you make, like when we got our first Black Effect check, it was so dope because to be on salary for a podcast is just like unheard of. And we were making. We quit our jobs before, you know, so like we were in this, doing this. But it's just mind blowing that we've been able to take that business acumen and flip it. Because a lot of people think when you're a podcaster, people really don't know how I make money. Like, I think so many people think I have onlyfans when they meet me, which I get it. I feel like I could have the look my titties already out like, okay. But content creation is one thing and then it's like business is another. Business is another.
Wheezy
Not only that, it's just diversifying as well, how you bring in money. So between Black Effect, now the book with Charlamagne as well, then we have Patreon, then we tour shout out to Justin and merchandising doing panels. We have five different means of income just for the podcast. So even though we're not in the write ups like the other white podcast, talking about $100 million deals, our business and what horrible decisions does make seven figures a year. We are a seven figure podcast.
DJ Envy
Y' all be 100 million, yet we're.
Wheezy
Not 100 million, but we have seven figures like, and we make that yearly.
Charlamagne Tha God
That's right.
Wheezy
So I love that. And then again, that's just one form of income. Again, she has her studio, I have my studio. We have other things that we do as well outside. So how do y'.
Mandy B
All.
Charlamagne Tha God
The decision is a business that generates money and I love how y' all use that money to build other businesses.
Wheezy
Other businesses.
Mandy B
I honestly want every podcaster to start consider considering Building another business. It doesn't have to be brick and mortar, but, like, literally.
Wheezy
Oh, yeah. Shout out to you, what is your. When you got into brick and mortar, even having the studio, like, dealing with an actual location and staffing, I'm like, oh, yeah, that ain't for me.
Mandy B
Do you know the owner of the building? So we got three buildings, four different studios. Right. The Soho dude hits me up about how someone filed an insurance claim, and I'm like, what? They're like, yeah, they filled my bathroom. Yeah. I was like, I'm so sorry to hear that. He was like, it's good. Like, he has huge buildings. He's like, I've already got this covered. But, like, that's what's happening.
DJ Envy
That can break a building.
Mandy B
Yeah.
DJ Envy
That could break a business.
Wheezy
Yeah.
Mandy B
How much I spent trying to make sure this fitness studio got a. Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
At your house, too.
Wheezy
It's crazy to me. All the businesses, though, all the projects, everything that we do creatively, those are my babies. As a woman that doesn't want kids. And when people talk about what legacy looks like and things, the things that I'm creating are gonna outlive me and my kids, if I had any, their kids. So to me, my legacy and what I'm leaving are the things and businesses that I'm creating. And I think Weezy and I talk about it as well. I think it's wonderful that we're able to, like, provide salaries and pay people. Like, even our horrible decisions. Team is like 10 people. And then she has her studio. Team, I have my studio, and it's just, like. It's great.
DJ Envy
How do y' all tape with you in Atlanta and you here in New York? How do y' all tape? The podcast?
Wheezy
We bulk record. And she was just in Atlanta. I go to la. Whenever we're in the same city, we find a studio and record.
Mandy B
Gotcha. It's honestly, too, like. I mean, shoot, you wasn't even. Do you live here?
Jess Hilarious
I. Now I do.
Mandy B
Now you do. But, yeah, like, you make it work. You know what I'm saying? I remember when I first heard that, like, just didn't live here. When she was first working, I was like, wow. But, like, you got your home is your home. Like, what are you gonna do?
Questlove
Yeah.
Mandy B
Your job, I think, should be secondary. So, Mandy, I felt the Atlanta coming. I was like, oh, my God, she's gonna do it. She's gonna do it.
Jess Hilarious
She's always gonna be at it.
Wheezy
I wanted to move to Atlanta years ago, but I had another show that kept me Here that thankfully I ended. And it was amazing ending it. And so now that I don't have to be here weekly to do a current event pod. Yeah, as soon as I ended that, I was like, yeah, I'm out.
Mandy B
Which, by the way, Mandy and I have lasted so long. When that show ended.
DJ Envy
What show are y' all talking about?
Wheezy
We already gotta say. See, the thing is, it was another show that I had.
Mandy B
People, we've been together so long, so if someone is a casual listener, they're thinking, it's Mandy. And I. I woke up to all these texts. It was my birthday. I think when it happened, I was like, what the fuck are they talking about? And then my mother called me because Mandy made a video.
Wheezy
That's what made our rollout so good. When everyone thought we broke up, they was like, oh, of course I became, I'm the villain, whatever. And they made it seem like, oh, she can't keep a partner. She can't keep a podcast up.
Jess Hilarious
She can't.
Wheezy
And it was like, we played into that, especially with me ending the pod last year.
Mandy B
So my mom called me, like, mandy is on the Internet going off on you. And when did you do this? I'm like, when did you do this?
Wheezy
It wasn't me.
Mandy B
I'm like, it's another light skin.
DJ Envy
I'm on back.
Mandy B
But yeah, I'm glad to be in real celebrity drama.
Questlove
Love your voice.
Wheezy
It's a mess.
Mandy B
You running naked in the halls. It's on the news like it is something. You know it is. Tea. I'm serious.
Charlamagne Tha God
Well, I'm proud of y', all, man.
Wheezy
Thank you.
Commercial Voice
Thank you.
Charlamagne Tha God
The book, no Holds Barred, a Dual Manifesto of Sexual Exploration and Power, will be in two stores June 24th.
Wheezy
June 24th. Right?
Ben
That's right.
Jess Hilarious
You got them nails. Them two short nails so you can play with your.
Wheezy
It's for men and women. No, it's for. I'm thoughtful for other people.
Jess Hilarious
Okay. All right.
Mandy B
Uhhuh.
Jess Hilarious
Cuz I was know like, just one. I'm right handed purposely. Okay, get ready.
DJ Envy
When you go to the nail salon and you be like, no, no, no, no, not these two open and they. They have to ask why and you.
Mandy B
Tell them they don't.
Wheezy
It's either I braid hair or I type a lot and I'm like, short. They do ask.
Mandy B
They do have shorts. They do.
Wheezy
They ask.
Mandy B
By the way, Jess, I cannot wait till your auntie age when you said, oh, should I auntie age now? No, you not. What the.
Jess Hilarious
I'm not.
Charlamagne Tha God
Or 40.
Mandy B
You have an Undertone as auntie when you just said something there. Oh, that's what you do. All right.
Charlamagne Tha God
Auntie age is 40, but she not 40.
Mandy B
Don't let you have a lesbian niece. You going to be like, so you and that girl be kissing.
Charlamagne Tha God
You got lesbian sister?
Jess Hilarious
Yeah, my little sister, she just. She too new, though. She ain't get out the trial period yet. My little sister, she gay.
Mandy B
I do believe that. It's a try. It's a phase.
Jess Hilarious
She's 21, though, so, you know, she. She still could be, you know, try. I'm not saying that she won't be gay forever, but she still. When she said, look, she got a little twinkle in her eye for these little guys out here, so she can't be fully gay yet.
Charlamagne Tha God
So she had three.
Mandy B
Heterosexual pretty and she gonna be straight.
Jess Hilarious
Right?
Mandy B
Right.
Jess Hilarious
Because she don't like to sexually engage with men, but she still like to look at them and. But she like having sex with girls. So that's what. I don't know. Is that a seven?
Mandy B
Like.
Jess Hilarious
That'S gay.
Mandy B
Okay.
DJ Envy
But she put you on the new music.
Jess Hilarious
She put me on it, yeah. It's this new song. Y' all ever heard this song? I forgot his name, but it'd be like.
Wheezy
Can be gay too.
Charlamagne Tha God
You mean like black?
Jess Hilarious
You know they talking about black men. Like it's.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, we didn't need that reminder.
Mandy B
Young man told us that already.
Wheezy
Rebrand.
Charlamagne Tha God
Who?
Wheezy
He didn't. I like his new song.
Jess Hilarious
Who?
Wheezy
Y' all gotta have Lil Nas X up here to talk about. No, I'm sure he's still his sexuality, but his music is different now, and it's really good. I really like him.
Mandy B
Lil Nas X Steve Lacey. Yeah, bruh.
Wheezy
Tyler can't be gay.
Jess Hilarious
Ever since my little sister played me.
Wheezy
That is crazy.
Charlamagne Tha God
To ban that record.
Mandy B
For Trump. Trump would be like, not if you're trans.
DJ Envy
Oh, my goodness. Mandy, Wheezy. We appreciate y' all joining us. Decision Decision podcast. Go pre order the book.
Wheezy
Go pre order the book and make sure you listen to us wherever you listen to your favorite podcast, but also on the I Heart podcast app, because we are there under the Black Effect network. It's decisions, decisions. And if you do want the X rated things where we do talk more about sex, Horrible Decisions did not leave. We're just behind a paywall. So join us on Patreon. It's patreon.com Horrible Decisions.
Mandy B
Yeah, that story you got, that was $5.
Charlamagne Tha God
The whole hive is so active that when the book first was announced, it was number One.
Wheezy
We hit number one. They went ahead and immediately were pre ordering their books. So we're really excited. And of course, we will be touring. We'll announce that later. But you guys will be able to see us do this live.
Mandy B
I know we gotta go. But just to tell you about, there was a girl that's a really big fan of yours at the live show we just had. And she was taking. I know she's taking a picture of me. And I'm like, oh, I know you will go to all his book tours. Did you see him? She's like, yeah, he whorehave. He always here. Wow, that almost made me tear up.
Charlamagne Tha God
But I know y' all said no King shaming.
Mandy B
Yes.
Charlamagne Tha God
What if the king is animals?
State Farm Announcer
Oh, no.
Wheezy
So. So we have rules. No kids, no animals, no dead bodies. Those are the three.
Mandy B
And consensual.
Wheezy
And of course, consensual. Like everything consensual. But we absolutely zero tolerance for PDFs, for bestiality and for necrophilia.
Charlamagne Tha God
Gotcha. Because there was a guy in Florida who I gave Donkey the day to this morning. He put his penis in the horse's nose.
Wheezy
That is. That is. That's also animal abuse.
Mandy B
But on the nose.
Wheezy
That's crazy. That's crazy.
Mandy B
And what color was he?
DJ Envy
What color you think?
Charlamagne Tha God
White.
Wheezy
I mean, but Florida. In Florida, I don't even go based on color. It's just.
Mandy B
Are y' all watching Florida Man?
Charlamagne Tha God
I do on hbo.
Wheezy
Florida man is good.
Mandy B
Eating them.
Charlamagne Tha God
It's good. It ain't as good as the regular Florida stories we read in the news, though, but it's good.
Mandy B
Nah. That black man and a white dude with no teeth, and he burned the house on. But they were still together.
Charlamagne Tha God
I see that one. Maybe yet.
Mandy B
It's good, but it's. It's. It's reenactments of Florida man stories. But I think. What's so crazy about Florida? We from there.
Wheezy
So we from Florida and we be. It's embarrassing.
DJ Envy
Why you think I was.
Mandy B
We was doing vampire. Hello. People be like, oh, it's because you got.
Wheezy
Not we. Sometimes you have to speak for yourself.
Mandy B
First of all, you got electronics.
Wheezy
Anyways.
Charlamagne Tha God
All right.
DJ Envy
It'S the Breakfast Club, Gamora.
Charlamagne Tha God
Wake that ass up early in the morning.
Coca-Cola Announcer
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Ben
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Mandy B
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Podcast: The Breakfast Club (iHeartPodcasts)
Date: December 29, 2025
Hosts: DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God
Guests: Mandii B & WeezyWTF (formerly of Horrible Decisions, now Decisions Decisions)
In this energetic and candid episode, Mandii B and WeezyWTF—known for their raw, sex-positive podcast—discuss their personal and professional evolution. They talk about rebranding their show from "Horrible Decisions" to "Decisions Decisions," promote their new book No Holes Barred, dive into the nuances of non-traditional relationships, and give an inside look at Mandy’s new fitness venture, Traphous Pilates. The conversation, filled with humor and signature candidness, explores sexual freedom, boundaries, entrepreneurship, and Black women’s empowerment in new spaces.
Reasoning & Evolution
Fan Reaction
Personal Growth & Non-Traditional Love
Open Conversations on Sex & Desire
Acceptance and Boundaries
Content & Purpose
Memorable, Candid Stories
Launching a Black-Owned, Culturally Relevant Fitness Space
Community Response & Growth
Entrepreneurial Lessons
Working Across States, Navigating Media Rumors
Clearing Up Relationship Speculation
The episode exudes the trademark irreverence and humor of The Breakfast Club mixed with Mandii and Weezy’s raw honesty. The candid sexual disclosures, jokes about boundaries, and frank business advice make this episode both educational and wildly entertaining. The guests’ openness is matched by the hosts’ willingness to probe, tease, and laugh, making even taboo topics approachable.
Listeners come away with a deepened understanding of Mandii B and Weezy’s journey as creators, businesswomen, and unapologetically authentic voices in both the podcast and entrepreneurial world. Their wisdom on relationships, business, and self-growth—delivered with wit and vulnerability—will resonate with anyone interested in sex-positivity, representation, and leveling up in work and life.
**To learn more, follow Mandii B and Weezy at "Decisions Decisions" and look out for their bookNo Holes Barred, dropping June 24th.