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Ms. Pat
Wake that ass up early in the morning.
Tyler Perry
The Breakfast Club Go to hell Greased up like a first day of school. Black candy.
Ms. Pat
And she's back.
DJ Envy
Ms. Pat is here, ladies and gentlemen. She don't even know introduction. She came in final.
Tyler Perry
Ms. Pat is here.
DJ Envy
Good morning to season four of the Ms. Pat show on bet plus, welcome back, Ms. Pat.
Ms. Pat
How you feeling?
Tyler Perry
Thank you.
Ms. Pat
Ms. Pat. Keeping the lights on at bet. You hear me?
Tyler Perry
I don't know why y'all keep lying on me. Tyler Peris over there. I'm just over there sweeping the floor.
Ms. Pat
Oh, yeah, I forget.
Tyler Perry
Tyler over there.
Ms. Pat
Well, Tyler and Ms. Pat.
Tyler Perry
Well, I say Ms. Pat sweeping the flow. But I'm glad to be season four. I'm glad. Absolutely.
DJ Envy
How you feeling?
Tyler Perry
I'm feeling great. I'm feeling great. I'm just doing tv and I'm doing a tour. I'm starting my second theater tour called Hot and Flat Flashy, Go on sale tomorrow.
Ms. Pat
Why is it flashy? What's the.
Tyler Perry
Why is it hot in your Flashy. Because I'm grown. Why is it hot and flashy? Cause I'm hot and flashy. Why is you greased up like a condom, about to go over your head, walking up here looking like a. Walking, walking. You look like a. A dildo. Why you looking like that? Oh, my God. Yeah, you see? Why your head grease up like a.
Ms. Pat
Used dildo, too, huh?
Tyler Perry
A used one. I don't do dildos. But keep talking. I don't need nothing fake by eyelashes and a wig.
Ms. Pat
What makes the show so successful, Ms. Pat?
Tyler Perry
Cause it's truthful. People can relate to it. You know, it's the first time. It's the first time somebody like me ever been on TV to say what real people were thinking. You know, we've seen all the moms before who played mama, who did great jobs, but you always say, that ain't my mom or that ain't how my aunt talked to me. And I think when they put my big crazy black behind on tv, I was able to. I gave the people voice that never had a voice on TV before. So that's all. And that people come up and tell me all the time, the thing that we dig into, you know, we dig into child molestation, abortion, convicted felon, everything that real people go through in life or know somebody who went through in life. So I think that's why people love the show.
Ms. Pat
But it's a comedy.
Tyler Perry
It is. Don't you laugh. Well, you probably don't watch it. Yeah. What you mean? I do watch. Cuz I ain't gonna sit here and tell y'all Read your book. So don't lie. I read your book too, though. I ain't. I read my own book one time. Cause they paid me. Them people dog my behind. Oh, you read slow. I was getting paid hourly, so I was not at. I was going to take all the time I needed to read. Hey, them does and a's and. And it's your words, Ms. Pat. I don't care. I was getting paid by the hour, and I was taking my time at that time. That was the most I ever got paid by the hour. So you thought I was gonna read that thing fast. I didn't even rehearse. And usually I rehearse to make sure I pronounced the. I said, would you pay me an hour? Oh, they're gonna be a long week. Yep. So the fact that you visit all of those traumas on your show, has it ever been anything like that's been very emotional for you to film everything? It's very emotional. Dealing with Jordan E. Cooper. The first season, we was gonna do an episode about my mama boyfriend touching us and my mama just turning away, like. Cause, you know, predators come in and they groom the family. You know, they come in, they see what type of needs you got and what we needed. We a father figure. We need somebody to help us grocery rent. And that predator came in and he did what he wanted to do with my sister and me. And when I got. When we told our mom, she just looked the other way. So, Jordan, we wrote a whole episode in the first season, and this is my first time ever being on tv. I'm like, oh, I don't think I'm ready to visit that. So we visit in the second season, which broke me all the way down because I was already dealing with a lot of trauma from my kid's father, who I was 12, he was 22, married, shot me. So we was telling all those stories. Didn't you want me to tell the child molestation story on top of it? I was like, we gotta back some of this up before I have to go to counseling. So we took that out. We did it in the second season, which was great.
Ms. Pat
Jordan said, there's a healing that happens this season. What do you mean by that? He said, there's a healing. That quote, there's a healing that's going on in front of the lens.
Tyler Perry
It was. I dealt with my mom because my mom used to say really bad things to me. You know, I'm lighter skinned. My sister's darker skin, but to me, my sister always been way more cuter. Than I was. My sister had long curly hair. She was just beautiful. She don't crack now, but Jesus Christ, that cracked up her ass up. She was beautiful.
DJ Envy
Had a long, nice head like this. But she don't crack.
Tyler Perry
So. So my mama used to say ugly things to me because I. I had acne really bad. And she would always talk about how ugly my skin was. And I'm 52, and I still can hear my mom and my. My mind saying bad things to me. So I think that's one of the reasons why I work so hard in life is because the things that my mama said to me. So we did a whole episode where my mom come back as a ghost. And she. And she what she put on me, she want me to put on my kids. Cause her mom put on her. So there in. In the episode, you see me break a generation. And at the end, I broke down and I remember fighting and I said, jordan, don't push me down. Don't push me down. And at the end, I just broke down crying. And I just remember saying, I hate this bitch.
Ms. Pat
Damn. All of that came back up.
Tyler Perry
Cause, you know, I never went to counseling and I've been through some stuff. So to deal with what I've been through, you know, And I told somebody this the other day. I said, my sister dealt with what we went through doing drugs and alcohol. I dealt by just shutting the door on it. Well, if you shut that door on it one day, that door gonna open back up. And all what you had behind that door is going to eventually flow out. So when I got to miss Pat show and started telling Joy, my life, he just keep bringing all of this stuff out. But it is a healing because it's stuff I never talked about. Oh, I never really dealt with. So I think I heal along with the audience.
Ms. Pat
You think it was other ways that you, like, you coped. Like, I know you said your sister did drugs. Did you do anything else?
Tyler Perry
Like, yeah, I ate. Look at me, Chick fil A. He was waiting on me to say I was fine every time I come in here. Listen to me, that's not true. No way I'm gonna come next time fat. And next time fat. When you come to my schedule, I'mma be fat. No, it's not.
Ms. Pat
That is not true.
Tyler Perry
Yeah, I. I tried on Zippy. It gave me gallstone. Damn.
DJ Envy
Did you. Did you hear Charlamagne when they was attacking him about the big bad comment?
Ms. Pat
Yeah, she texted me. I forgot it was something.
DJ Envy
What you text him?
Tyler Perry
It was funny. It was people so sensitive. I mean, if you fat. I am, I'm fat. I'm. I think I'm beautiful. And all the time she's beautiful.
DJ Envy
That's what you meant, right?
Tyler Perry
They attack me all the time. And I tell them, I said, hey, you going to clock in at somebody job? My husband sucking my titty. So that mean I don't have to go to work today. Damn, damn, damn. My system forever. Erasing what people, what I'm saying back. Don't talk to me because I'm not Beyonce. I'm gonna talk back. Cause I be reading these comments. Don't be. Don't be playing with me. So leave me alone. They call me fast. That's all you can say. But you going to clock in. I'm doing what I love. So who miserable, you or me? And I'm gonna tell your boss, you stealing that chicken. I ran out of breath.
Ms. Pat
I thought your mouth was watering when you say chicken.
Tyler Perry
I cannot stand Charlemagne. Oh, my God.
DJ Envy
When did you find it, Feel it comfortable where you could talk about all these stories? Because some of these stories you'd be like, damn.
Tyler Perry
Yeah.
DJ Envy
You don't know if you want to.
Tyler Perry
Laugh with you or you just want to cry and just be sad the whole episode. You know, I do it like my comedy. I'm just an open book. I'm not ashamed of nothing I've been through. You know, I was on stage last week, I mean, the other night, and I was like, oh, yeah, I had crabs, gunner and fleas. Everybody. Like, what? And so I was talking about the whole thing about young girls shaving their vagina. Well, I'm 52. Nobody. Your mama and your mama and me, we didn't shave our vagina unless we had crabs or gonorrhea.
DJ Envy
He said, no, that's true.
Tyler Perry
How you know?
Ms. Pat
I was born in 1978. The first pornos I saw had bush.
Tyler Perry
Yes.
Ms. Pat
The Playboy magazine had bush in it.
Tyler Perry
And they only checked aiding them if they had crabs. But now everybody just walking around with a bird vagina. So I don't get it. So just a bald head coochie. It look like a bird. Mine look like a beak. If I. I haven't seen it. Cuz I got a flap in the front. Yo, when I put a mirror down there and it don't fog up, it look like a little bird.
DJ Envy
Oh my.
Tyler Perry
I don't do that.
Ms. Pat
Are you having fun?
Tyler Perry
I'm. You know what? Life is great. My husband is retired. I just moved into my house.
Ms. Pat
When did the house get finished?
Tyler Perry
I finished it okay. It took two and a half years. Cause I was too cheap to hire contracts.
DJ Envy
You was your own contractor. Oh, you and your husband.
Tyler Perry
My own contractor in TikTok.
DJ Envy
I was watching you.
Tyler Perry
It's like 15,000 square feet.
Ms. Pat
Okay.
Tyler Perry
I tore up some stuff, put some stuff back in there. I'm a diy and I keep telling these people, you need to give me a DIY show. Cause that's what I like to do. That's what I used to do before when I. When I immediately stopped stealing, I started doing diy and I love it. So I built this house. My husband thought I was crazy.
DJ Envy
I know you went over budget, cuz.
Tyler Perry
You was there every one no budget.
DJ Envy
No.
Tyler Perry
Okay, one no budget.
Ms. Pat
When you see diy, though, you said, like, what else do you like to do with yourself? Just house.
Tyler Perry
I used to do like furniture, paint stuff, decorate. I like to do all of that. But mine's mostly like building. I like to see a house like my, my. I did my nephew house and I. He bought a flip. And then once you moved in the flip, you realize all the problem. I said, well, look, I had all this stuff for the house I was building. So look, let me do your household. I tore his house up from the rooter to the tooth and put it back and it's cute.
Ms. Pat
You ain't got time for all of that though, Ms. Patrick, do you?
Tyler Perry
I do. I really do. I still do it. I still do. I'm doing somebody else's house right now and getting ready to do somebody else's house right now. Well, how you do tour? You do tv? You a construction worker, obviously. Construction worker, Damn. How do you balance that and still be able to be a wife? Mom, like all of that. That. I've been married 30 something years. So when you've been married 30 something years, you just really dealt with somebody that you know to watch TV with. So when I come home, I mean, look, I'm. I'm. I'm at the point. I was just telling somebody. I'm at the point where I just told my husband, we can no longer sleep in the same bedroom because I'm tired of sharing toilets with him. I'm tired of sharing the bed when he snore. He's on no Z. He ain't losing nothing but air. So I just want to be by myself.
DJ Envy
How do you take it?
Ms. Pat
Why y'all wasting all this ozempic between.
Tyler Perry
You and your husband?
Ms. Pat
You said it didn't work for you.
Tyler Perry
You said it worked for him, it didn't work for Me, because I like to eat. I don't want nobody cutting off my appetite. Oh, so you can't eat with it? Oh, it don't let you eat. You really try to.
Ms. Pat
For real?
Tyler Perry
Yeah. But I got gallstones immediately after that, so I stopped.
DJ Envy
You stop.
Tyler Perry
Damn. Damn. My gallbladder. I don't think it made. My gallbladder went bad. I think the fried food over the years, my gallbladder down. So I had my gallbladder removed and I just kept going. But my husband lost like. Like probably about 40, 50 pounds on it. Wow.
DJ Envy
So what did your husband say when you said you no longer want to be in the same room with him?
Tyler Perry
He good. We be FaceTiming each other 15,000 square feet.
Ms. Pat
Damn. Right.
Tyler Perry
Right. Well, he just on one side, so his bed haven't arrived to the new house yet, so we'll see how that works. But we definitely got separate toilets. I'm tired of sharing the toilet with somebody. I'm just. I can't. I cannot. I'm. I just want peace. That's all I want. I got you go. Y'all gonna eventually get there. You gonna eventually get there. And that works for both of y'all, you and him. I don't know if it worked for him yet, because I think you think I'm bs.
Ms. Pat
You just need breaks from each other every now and then.
Tyler Perry
I go on the road every week. My husband's a retired. He just take care of the house. So I think he. I think we get enough breaks. I've been gone since last week, so he won't see me until Monday of next week.
Ms. Pat
Did they check on you at least?
Tyler Perry
We talk every day. I get up, you know, I have a routine that I've always had because it's the same drug dealer mentality that I got. I always wake up early in the morning. I don't sell drugs anymore. But the first person I call is my husband because I know my dad's gonna get busy, and sometimes I'm on the other side of the world and I. I just wake him up every morning at six o'clock his time.
Ms. Pat
Damn.
Tyler Perry
And we'll talk for an hour or two, and then I know I talk to my husband. You used to.
Ms. Pat
You was waking up to do radio. But what happened?
Tyler Perry
They quiet me.
DJ Envy
They quiet.
Tyler Perry
You fired me before I could quit. I knew that was coming from this one here. Yeah. You know, I told. I told them. I said, I'm gonna leave in August. And before August could get there, I was blown away. I never thought I was Gonna get fired from that job.
DJ Envy
So you had no idea?
Tyler Perry
No, me and Shamil didn't have no idea. No idea at all. I just knew they was gonna renew her contract and I was gonna go on by my business. I was never there and there. But that's what happened when you work with a hater. And I'm just gonna go and say it. I don't even care, because that can't about whoop my ass. You know who the hater is? Tigger. Tigger's the biggest damn hater. I mean, just. I mean, you had a good show and you messed it up because of your ego. And I think it's because I was coming in and say, I know it. Because I didn't care. I said, look, I don't need a job. I work here. Then my husband Chick, I ain't never spent to check up here. I'm working for my husband to check. I ain't never seen. I ain't Never spent a V103, chick. This. This is my husband chick. And it is. You know, when you work with somebody who. It's just jealousy. To me, it was jealousy. Really. I'm just gonna put it out there, and if you call me, we could fight in the street. It was. It was jealousy. I bought a G wagon. Your truck called more than both of my cars. I said, well, buy you another car so we could be equal. Damn it.
Ms. Pat
Damn.
DJ Envy
Damn, Ms. Pat.
Tyler Perry
I like that. Yeah, you know, you. Then you. You. I get. Another thing was, is that we was all equal, so you couldn't talk down to nobody. And you weren't gonna talk down to me no way. Because I would have whooped you. Like, hey, back in the day, when I went back on Section 8, I used to always want to get fired so my rent can go back down to free crap. But I. I was. I was really. When they walked me in now and they said, we're not renewing your contract because I said I was leaving in August, I was so shocked. I said, y'all gonna fight me. Me? Wow. Do you know these people get up to listen to me. Don't nobody listen to this crap because.
Ms. Pat
Pat gotta hit podcast, hit TV show.
Tyler Perry
And you gonna find a person who had the most going on, which was me and Shamil.
Ms. Pat
You.
Tyler Perry
You gonna lead a dj? You want the DJ just to spin records, Take it.
Ms. Pat
At least reach out to you and say thank you for it.
Tyler Perry
I blocked that. Damn. He sure did Happy. I said, don't you. I'm not Shamil. You don't Play with me think. I mean, you know, Jamil was nice. I think she still talked to him or whatever. She's nice because I still talk to her all the time. But I'm not. I'm. No, you don't. You get one time to play with me. I'm 52 years old. I don't have time to play these game with you. You low down, you're dirty. And anybody who go over there and work for him and the show ain't doing. The show was doing well when I got. They were number 15 when I left. We were 2 and 3. You gonna follow us. You should have got five a long time ago. But keep your little show. Cause I ain't never needed it anyway. My. My team was like, why are you going over there and work for that old dead ass station? I said, I want to work for V103. I'm from Atlanta. I want to work for V103. Don't make me wake up and take unnecessary baths. You know, I had to get up and take a bath every morning.
DJ Envy
I knew it wasn't going to work. Why when you came and did the week here, Ms. Pat came and did a week here, and that's competition. And she was only supposed to come here for one day.
Ms. Pat
It ain't competition no longer.
Tyler Perry
It was competition. You was in my city. Cause I listened to. I listen to y'all every morning now. It was. You got me fired. That's right.
Ms. Pat
Charlemagne youth, the 96 one out there.
Tyler Perry
Oh, my God. When I got back, oh, hell broken loose. Oh, my God. You was only. You did. What is that report? Y'all do the rumor. You did the rumor report. I said, what the hell is the rumor report? I ain't did no rumor report. They pull up the tape. I said, that's the rumor report.
Ms. Pat
I thought I was just up there talking.
Tyler Perry
I said, they just told me to sit in on this. You know, that was the rumor.
Ms. Pat
But they gotta understand you a star outside of radio.
DJ Envy
But she was promoting her show at the time.
Tyler Perry
I was promoting my show just came back. I was promoting my show and I'm all. And you know, he would say, say, well, to show. I said, this show says your name. It does not say my name. So I worry about keeping the Ms. Pat show on. That's why I make my money at. I don't make no money here. I mean, I made money there, but it was for my husband. That was. I did that because I like doing it. Yeah. And then you gonna tell me not to go on One of the biggest shows to promote my show. To promote my. I said. I told him this. I said, it really didn't hurt you. Cause people would have liked me and probably would have came over there listening to us in the morning. You stupid fool.
Ms. Pat
And it's not like you wasn't shouting them out. It's not like we said, hey, don't shout out your radio show, Ms. Pat.
Tyler Perry
Yeah, but it was. It was a jealousy. You at the competition. I ain't with. I don't compete. I'm fat. I came over here to tell people to watch a Ms. Pat show.
Ms. Pat
I don't compete. I eat. Tell them Ms. Pat.
Tyler Perry
Oh, my God. Hit me up, boy. You. Them rappers want to whoop your ass. Well, I'm a comedian. Gonna have to get him, Jess. I wish you weren't pregnant so we could jump on.
Ms. Pat
You wouldn't want to do your own show, though, Ms. Pat.
Tyler Perry
I would want to do my own show.
Ms. Pat
Morning show. If she want to get up afternoons.
Tyler Perry
I am a morning. I'm a morning person. I'm. I'm asleep by 6:35 if I'm just at home. But I do. I did. I learned a lot over there, and I really like doing radio. But, you know, it is what it is. They. They let me go. They acquired me. But it was day lost. It was. It was day loss. I got a fourth season. I got season two of the misspass settles it. I got other things going on. Chamille became a housewife. I said, when she got that housewife, I said, oh, I know you sick now. You got rid of everybody who could have brought somebody to that Dead station.
Ms. Pat
So Ms. Pat would have been on her fourth season, and Shamir would have been a housewife right now in the morning.
Tyler Perry
And I'm the second season of the Ms. Pat settles it. Yeah, I just finished taping it now.
DJ Envy
What was the craziest thing you seen on that show? Yeah, Ms. Pat settles it.
Tyler Perry
These people crazy. And I don't know if y'all know, but some them cases be real. I was ready to say, are you a real judge? No, I'm a convicted felon. Oh, no, I'm acting. But those are real cases. Seems a lot of people asking your comments, like, I think she a real judge. I think she is a real j. Nah, I'm a convicted fellow. I'm just. Yeah, that's right. That's what I said when they asked me when I pitched this idea of the bet and they said, you do it. I'm like, but I'm gonna convict the felon. They was like, it's tv. I said, well, why not, right? The craziest case I seen on the second season when I these two women got in the fed. Her name was Shay Shay and they was in the feds. And I said, what was you in jail for? She said, dope. I said, dope. That woman scared the hell out of me. But this lady came in on 99, baby. She was about. She was ready to whoop her friend behind and everything. It was crazy.
DJ Envy
Fight or what? Dope.
Tyler Perry
No, she, she had. Did some work for it and the friend didn't want to pay her. And Shay shay stand about 4ft tall, about 80 pound, but she one of them people who will fight. And baby. And the friend was mild manner and quiet, you know, don't want no, no, don't want no smoke. It was hilarious. I said, y'all put her in the commercial.
Ms. Pat
Dope. And what's up with the crack babies cartoon?
Tyler Perry
Crack baby cartoon. Yeah.
Ms. Pat
I thought you had a crack baby car.
Tyler Perry
I'm still working on it. You know how some places are just slow. I got other things I'm working on. Like building houses. Yeah, yeah. I just sold another show, so keep your finger crossed. Hopefully get, get on up there. But I just sold another show, so we're working.
Ms. Pat
What you talking about? On the hot and flashy to her. Like what's the content about just being.
Tyler Perry
A grown ass woman, Being married life. The things that I go through, you know? You know one thing I learned about being in a different tax bracket? That didn't nobody tell me that you have to give the government half the money that you made. Yeah, that and the government ain't never wrote no joke for me. I don't know them. You know what's crazy? I call the IRS and I'm telling on all my family members to see if I can get a. A cut a discount.
DJ Envy
He gonna start snitching on.
Tyler Perry
Hell yeah. Wouldn't you? I mean, you know how many of my cousins that file taxes for kids that ain't they kids?
Ms. Pat
Of course.
Tyler Perry
Won't that help us?
DJ Envy
You just want a couple percentage points off. Instead of taking half, just take 40%. You tell them some people I don't know where dead body is.
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Carlos Miller
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Carlos Miller
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Ms. Pat
How are you?
Tyler Perry
Hello.
Peter Tilden
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Carlos Miller
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Tyler Perry
Bless you all.
Peter Tilden
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Carlos Miller
Really?
Ms. Pat
That's the opening?
Tyler Perry
Really?
Ms. Pat
No.
Tyler Perry
Really? Yeah, really?
Angela Yee
No really.
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Peter Tilden
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Carlos Miller
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Ms. Pat
PPP loans.
Tyler Perry
I didn't do no PPP line. Thank God I didn't. I don't. First of all, nothing is free in this world. I already know that because I used to steal. So if somebody giving you something free is. Is to put you on a hook and everybody I seen get them PPP loan. Now they out of the trillions of dollars. Now they going to the hundred thousand and the million dollar people. I'm not. I. I told, I told everybody don't take those loans. I'm okay. I went home and paint my whole basement during the pandemic.
DJ Envy
Yourself? Really?
Tyler Perry
I sure did. Did floors and then ended up the show got Picked up and I. Second season. We moved back to Atlanta. I wasn't taking no money. I don't take no free money. Ain't nothing free in this world. Right?
Ms. Pat
What made you get into DIY so much? Like what. When did you first start?
Tyler Perry
Just my husband used to do. My husband used to work at Simmons Mattress. Then he went and started building houses. And so we. I bought my house that I was. I was on section 8 for like 10 years. And I lied like everybody else do, and I got a husband and I ain't tell the truth. And I think my sister didn't were reporting me. So they took my section eight. Go to hell. Go to hell. And they cut my food stamps off, so. So my rent went. The lady said, well, I. I just paid the mortgage, was 600. So she was getting older. And she said, look, you really need to buy this house for me and my mother's. I ain't buying this regular house. I said, I think the house got some good bones. So I bought the house. We bought the house. And I still own the house over there on Hawthorne Drive in Atlanta, Georgia. Wow. And I just told that house. I tore it up and I said, I want a bigger bedroom. So I hired an architect. That's when the housing market failed the first time, like in early 2000. And I just. 2008, right, 2000, the housing market failed and I hired an architect because all them was laid out off. And he charged me like $2,000 to draw the back of my house. And I just had got my husband. Boss, he was doing house at the time. And he did. And we did the rest.
Ms. Pat
Why she. She rent the house out now in Hawthorne.
Tyler Perry
I do rent the house out for. Too cheap. Damn. She. I didn't even. I lived in Indiana for 15 years and I was. The rent was $800. And my friend said, do you know what rent costs in Atlanta? And I'm like, no. For 15 years, I rented my house out for 800 in Atlanta Square feet.
DJ Envy
That person never left property.
Tyler Perry
They still there.
DJ Envy
They gonna be there for 80 years at that price.
Tyler Perry
I went up a little bit. But I look at it like this. I'm not trying to make a big profit. They take really good care of my house. So I rather have them in there taking really good care of my house than to be trying to rob them blind. So they've been there now for about 14 years. Not even a thousand, though. I did. I raised it a little bit. Okay, I raised it a little bit. But, you know, I don't need the money. I just need the mortgage pay. And what they have done over the years, they've paid the mortgage. I. I mean, they. They really great tenants. I think I'm a great landlord. I go over there and do what I'm supposed to do every year without them asking. I kind of wish they would move so I can remodel it, but I ain't gonna complain. Yeah.
Ms. Pat
Is it true that you never wanted to be famous? Famous because your mom used to always tell you that you wasn't gonna be.
Tyler Perry
Yeah, it was. Fame was something. And I don't consider myself famous now. I consider myself with a lot of jobs because, you know, it's just. It's the way my mama beat me down. She always said I wasn't good enough. She always said I wasn't. So in my head, I never saw myself like other people. And. And my husband told me. He said, that's why you don't want to do a lot of things, because was. I was scared to get out there. I wanted to make the money, but I didn't want to be up front. And then when I got this TV show, it really put me out there, and it. I didn't even know. I was shy. Like, if you want to take a picture with me, I do it. But then I'll be like, why? I used to always ask myself why? And people would come up to me and be like, oh, Miss Pay you so great. You telling my story. And I'm like, no, I'm telling my story. So if fame is something I had to get used to, like, I don't go to the black Walmarts because they won't leave me the alone. So I try to go way out in the white neighborhood because white people, people, they treat fame different. What's up, Ms. Pat? Black people. Oh, shaking on you. Pulling on your wig. Get your hands on me, you. And keep that mean. I just said, ain't nobody, ain't nobody. You think I ain't shakable? I ain't gonna keep taking. I ain't gonna take too many little. I smell. I'm gonna take one of my boobs out and drop them on your head and break your damn neck. What's wrong with it?
DJ Envy
Man, oh, man, yelling to me all morning. That's why I'm glad when you come up here. Listen, you and Jess got my bag. I love it.
Ms. Pat
How is it at bet, huh? How is it at bet?
Tyler Perry
I love bet. I do. I really do. I'm being honest. I. You know what? I. When I First went in my hustle versus what they were used to doing was different. But since it's my show, I just say, hey, y'all, if we can work together, this is what I would like to be done. And so we. I've been over there four years now, so we work together. And they know what Ms. Pat want. You know, one of the things that tripped me out the first season, whatever they did for one show, they did for every show. And I said, uh, let me talk to you. I can't stand alone if all of us gonna do the same promo. So I was. I started coming up with ideals. I started talking to the promo team, or me and Jordan started coming up ways to make our show stand out.
Ms. Pat
Right?
Tyler Perry
And let me just say, this is our best season ever. I don't know why we. Why it took four season to really get in for black people and other people to really get on it, but this season has. This is our most watched season ever. Wow.
DJ Envy
Congrats.
Tyler Perry
We kick nothing but ass.
DJ Envy
But you dug it out a lot, though, yourself, though. Like, you have done what you had to do. Like, most of the time where I see you or I run into you or if I see you on the red carpet or even if you hit me in a dm, this is not. Because BET said it. You do it.
Tyler Perry
Yeah.
Ms. Pat
And.
DJ Envy
And that's the. The biggest thing. And you've been doing. Doing it from the beginning.
Tyler Perry
And that's what I tell people who come over there. I said, hey, you know that everybody got only so much promotional money to plot. And BET is not cbs. So I just use my. My street knowledge and I say, you know what? Give me this. You don't want to give it. I'm gonna spend my own money. I spent a lot of my own money. I had a PR person. I mean, I. I hire everything I need. And people like, oh, they bet. Give her some promotion. They do give me promotion. But when you see me doing certain things, thing a lot of it is time is me out of my pocket. I don't. I didn't wait to BET get me on Late Night, hired me a PR person. Late Night didn't even want me. But this lady Pam, who I had, she just kept, y'all gotta take her. Y'all gotta take her. Y'all gotta take her. And I ended up in the right place, and I ended up getting same thing with you guys. First time I asked to come over here, the note back was, she ain't famous enough. Who is she?
Ms. Pat
Who said that?
Tyler Perry
Shut your ass. Up. You said that. And then I run into him at a Lee Daniel party. And Lee Daniel introduced us at a diddy party. Diddy party? Yeah, he been to a diddy party.
Ms. Pat
Never been to no diddy party ever in my life.
Tyler Perry
Why is everybody denying diddy parties? Diddy through nice parties.
DJ Envy
I never went.
Tyler Perry
That don't mean you got taken in a room. That don't mean somebody touched you. That just mean you was at a diddy party. I mean, everybody act like if you go to a diddy party, you had to do something to diddy to be at the party.
Ms. Pat
I never went. I don't know.
Tyler Perry
But you probably did go. But don't deny me.
Ms. Pat
I never been to a diddy party.
Tyler Perry
You never got invited to. You look like you went.
Ms. Pat
You don't invite me no way.
Tyler Perry
You think the way you over there.
Ms. Pat
Grease, they know I'mma tell.
Tyler Perry
Somebody me in the ass and not tell. Yeah, I think you would let somebody ass not tell. Then when the William. Oh, my God.
Ms. Pat
That is not funny. I am a.
Tyler Perry
What did you have to do to keep that windy weed job? I've heard a few things to pick to have them plastic titties. Since you want to keep digging at me. What you got to do to keep that? Because that what that's what popped Charlemagne in the world.
Ms. Pat
That is true.
Tyler Perry
So you know I mean one a diddy party. But tell us what you did over there. You had to take one for the team. Tell your wife. This is going to us off Medicaid. Get us off medicate. Look at him laughing. He know I'm telling the truth. Then all of a sudden she let you go. She let you go. And every say you no more plastic titty to pick you. The reason why she got dementia.
Ms. Pat
Man, cut it out. You have to forget.
DJ Envy
Oh my goodness.
Ms. Pat
Man, that is funny as.
Tyler Perry
What?
Ms. Pat
What if. Did he start claiming he battled?
Tyler Perry
That might be the way he battled. Who is joining you on this?
DJ Envy
This bat is wild.
Tyler Perry
Said that to him before. But you know, the Internet, you out there saying stuff and I've seen it, but I ain't never walked in. But he going to keep on calling me fat alone. How much you eat? You know, can't nobody shake you. You don't think I see all them little dibs? You don't think he act like I. He act like when he first met me, I was 110. All of a sudden I blew up from steroids or some. I've been f fat. I've been fat since I had that first baby.
Ms. Pat
But Nobody ever said Ms. Pat wasn't famous to come up here. Nobody said that.
Tyler Perry
Yes, you did. Yes, you did. Y cuz I asked. I asked. And then the answer was no. I. I saw you at that Le Daniel thing and Lee Daniel introduced you like, yeah, come on the show. And I'm like. And I. My, my. My thing was. I. Cuz y'all didn't know me. Y'all wasn't really for me. And I said, I'mma walk.
Ms. Pat
I read Rabbit.
Tyler Perry
You read Rabbit? After we sent it to you? After you let me on. So I had. All I had was a book. I really didn't have no show or anything. And I said, you ain't gonna never fucking forget me. Cause I was mad. Cause I tried several times to get on here. I'm glad I'm on here now.
Ms. Pat
But the publicist will lie and say that the public, if they do reach out.
Tyler Perry
I had no publicist at the time. I couldn't afford. Now all I had.
Ms. Pat
I wonder who they was talking to.
Tyler Perry
Manager.
DJ Envy
I don't know who it is back then.
Ms. Pat
Yeah. Nobody said that, though, if they did.
Tyler Perry
No, you said it because you didn't even know me.
DJ Envy
I'm sure they did.
Tyler Perry
Thank you.
Ms. Pat
But I don't remember nobody asking.
DJ Envy
Remember when Ms. Pat came? Ms. Pat came so early. She was introd, introducing her story for the first time to us. And we were like in a maze.
Ms. Pat
But I had red Rabbit already. The first time you came here, I had red Rabbit.
DJ Envy
I think you came with your. You became with your daughter at the time.
Tyler Perry
My daughter?
DJ Envy
Yeah. That was the first time she told the story. And then it just started going from there for Ms. Pat.
Tyler Perry
Yeah. Because y'all said no. Cause I think it wasn't. Yeah. Cause I thought you didn't like me because you were going to catch a flight and you kept turning around. You. I'm gonna miss my damn flight.
DJ Envy
Yeah, yeah.
Tyler Perry
It was just me and you.
Ms. Pat
You know, Angela, he was there too.
Tyler Perry
No, he left the first time. And the second time I came back, he was there.
Ms. Pat
I'm glad I had read the book.
Tyler Perry
He ain't read that.
Ms. Pat
I did read the book. There's so much in that book I remember to this day. Cuz I was sitting there reading like, damn, this woman done been through a lot. We just.
DJ Envy
Have you been through a lot?
Ms. Pat
Your nipple shot off.
Tyler Perry
Yes, I did. Damn. So dope. I sold a lot of dope.
DJ Envy
Then I think a year later, I seen you the BET Awards, the Red Carpet Awards, and they. And this is how crazy it was bet didn't even know who Ms. Pat was. The show was so early. And I called me. I called you over, remember?
Tyler Perry
Yep. Yeah.
Ms. Pat
I even knew the story cuz your show, Fox had picked it up.
Tyler Perry
It was Fox show, then it was Hulu. Hulu shot the pilot and then BET ended up got it out the vault. Because they threw it in the vault. When I said. When I called my son a. That white man said, no, we ain't going to be able to do that. I said, it's just like calling your kids a school shooter. White people.
Ms. Pat
Damn. Damn.
Tyler Perry
They threw it in the vault and then BET came and got it and we've been popping ever since.
DJ Envy
Well, we love you, Ms. Pat.
Tyler Perry
I love you. How can you not love Ms. Pat?
DJ Envy
We support you for anything that you do. We support you. We appreciate you.
Ms. Pat
I do love you, Ms. Pat. I with you.
Tyler Perry
Heavy. You know what he do? He. He will text back. He used to didn't text back.
Ms. Pat
That's not true.
Tyler Perry
You. You famous as what you.
DJ Envy
Ms. Pat called, check up on me. She birthdays, holidays. Just make sure I'm all right.
Tyler Perry
I forgot to tell you. Happy Father. Happy Father's Day. Envy. I forgot to text you yesterday.
DJ Envy
Thank you.
Tyler Perry
Happy Father's Day, Niggle.
Ms. Pat
Thank you. Happy Father's Day to you too.
Tyler Perry
Well, you look dipper in the top of your head. That from Wendy did. He can never leave you alone, yo. Oh my God. I love. I, I thank y'all. I thank y'all.
Ms. Pat
That is gonna be. That headline gonna be so funny. Ms. Pat accuses Wendy Williams a what?
Tyler Perry
Lord, take that back. Don't put that out there voluntarily. Rape. He wanted it. That was his first radio job.
Ms. Pat
No, it wasn't.
Tyler Perry
Yes, it was.
Ms. Pat
No, I did. I worked in South Carolina.
Tyler Perry
Yeah, that don't count. Nobody listen.
Ms. Pat
I was on four stations in South Carolina.
Tyler Perry
Boy, please. The rats in New York was more famous than you. You had to do what you had to do. And Bigfoot was your favorite. The things we have to do. I ain't never had to do none of that.
Ms. Pat
Oh, my God.
DJ Envy
Have you ever seen the picture of.
Tyler Perry
Of him naked?
DJ Envy
No, not him naked. Wendy. Of Wendy Williams sitting in the throne. Ain't no pictures of me neck Charlamagne sitting on her lap.
Tyler Perry
No.
DJ Envy
You never seen that picture?
Ms. Pat
What pictures of me naked?
Tyler Perry
That's why you in that throne now, ain't it?
Ms. Pat
I'm about to get out of it. My back hurt.
Tyler Perry
What you had to do to get. How much. How much you make over there, cuz? I Know you made a lot.
Ms. Pat
I work for free for a year and a half.
Tyler Perry
That what you thought?
DJ Envy
Show the picture. Show the picture.
Ms. Pat
Let me see.
Tyler Perry
You were sending Whitney lap.
DJ Envy
Look, look, look. Come on now.
Tyler Perry
O you gonna tell me this ain't but partners.
Ms. Pat
That woman is sick. Ms. Pat.
Tyler Perry
I know of you. She. She erased her own memory.
Jason Alexander
That's right.
Tyler Perry
Y'all gonna get me in trouble.
DJ Envy
Ladies and gentlemen, Ms. Pat on BET plus and again, Ms. Pat, we love you.
Tyler Perry
Thank you. Make sure y'all go to misspackcompany.com for all the tickets. I'm in your town this weekend. South Carolina.
Ms. Pat
What part?
Tyler Perry
Where? Green Greensboro. Green Greens, North Carolina.
Ms. Pat
Green Greensboro, North Carolina.
Tyler Perry
Okay. I just left Greenville, so I'm going to North Carolina. Greensboro. Make sure y'all get y'all tickets this weekend. Only one show left.
Ms. Pat
We gotta go see Ms. Patman.
Angela Yee
Absolutely.
Ms. Pat
When you gonna be close to this area?
Tyler Perry
I'm going on tour with Martin. I don't know if I'm coming to New York, but I'm. I'm doing. I'm doing like 10 dates with Martin.
DJ Envy
I think they're doing the Barclays. I think they're doing the Barclays. I thought saw.
Tyler Perry
I don't know if I'm on that show. Ain't you on a tour with Martin, too? Yeah, so I. I don't know where I'm going.
Ms. Pat
Oh, okay.
DJ Envy
Yeah.
Ms. Pat
Dot com.
Tyler Perry
What is it? Ms. Ms. Pack. Go to. Go to comedian misspat dot com. Make sure y'all keep streaming season four, the Ms. Pat show, so I can get season five.
DJ Envy
There you go.
Tyler Perry
Absolutely.
DJ Envy
The Breakfast Club is Ms. Pat, ladies and gentlemen.
Ms. Pat
Wake that ass up early in the morning.
Tyler Perry
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Podcast Information:
[02:19] DJ Envy: "Ms. Pat is here, ladies and gentlemen. She don't even know introduction. She came in final."
The episode kicks off with DJ Envy introducing Ms. Pat, highlighting her presence on the show without a traditional introduction, setting a casual and engaging tone for the interview.
[03:32] Ms. Pat: "What makes the show so successful, Ms. Pat?"
[03:35] Tyler Perry: "Cause it's truthful. People can relate to it... I gave the people voice that never had a voice on TV before."
Ms. Pat delves into the authenticity of her show on BET Plus, emphasizing how its success stems from its truthful portrayal of real-life issues. Tyler Perry adds that the show resonates because it provides a platform for voices previously unheard on mainstream television.
[07:46] Ms. Pat: "Jordan said, there's a healing that happens this season. What do you mean by that?"
[07:49] Tyler Perry: "It was very emotional... It's a healing because it's stuff I never talked about. I think I heal along with the audience."
Ms. Pat and Tyler Perry discuss the therapeutic aspect of addressing past traumas on her show. Tyler shares his personal struggles, including childhood abuse and marital issues, and explains how confronting these painful memories on air facilitated his healing process alongside the audience.
[11:01] Tyler Perry: "I'm at the point where I just told my husband, we can no longer sleep in the same bedroom because I'm tired of sharing toilets with him."
The conversation shifts to the challenges of balancing a demanding career with personal life. Tyler Perry humorously and candidly discusses his decision to create personal space within his marriage to maintain his well-being amidst his busy schedule.
[14:48] Tyler Perry: "They quiet me. You fired me before I could quit... It's what happened when you work with a hater."
Tyler recounts the surprising experience of being fired from his radio job before he had the chance to resign. He attributes his firing to workplace jealousy and conflict, particularly pointing fingers at a colleague named Tigger, whom he blames for undermining his position.
[29:14] DJ Envy: "That person never left property."
[30:01] Tyler Perry: "Fame was something I didn't consider myself famous now. I consider myself with a lot of jobs because... I'm scared to get out there."
Ms. Pat and Tyler explore the complexities of fame, with Tyler admitting his ambivalence towards being a public figure. He discusses how negative reinforcement from his upbringing affected his self-perception and hesitancy to embrace fame fully.
[31:29] DJ Envy: "Man, oh, man, yelling to me all morning. That's why I'm glad when you come up here."
[32:19] Ms. Pat: "Right?"
[32:20] Tyler Perry: "And let me just say, this is our best season ever... this season has... our most watched season ever."
The discussion highlights the collaborative efforts with BET in promoting Ms. Pat’s show. Tyler attributes the show's success to strategic collaboration and personal investment, noting that the current season is their most watched yet due to tailored promotional strategies and authentic content.
[35:05] Tyler Perry: "So you know I mean one a diddy party. But tell us what you did over there. You had to take one for the team."
Tyler addresses the competitive dynamics within the radio industry, particularly his interactions with Ms. Pat. He expresses frustration over perceived sabotage and underscores the importance of mutual support over competition.
[41:16] Tyler Perry: "Thank you. Make sure y'all go to misspackcompany.com for all the tickets... I'm in your town this weekend."
As the interview wraps up, Tyler Perry promotes his ongoing projects, including tours and upcoming seasons of Ms. Pat’s show. This segment emphasizes their commitment to growth and reaching wider audiences through various platforms.
[38:47] DJ Envy: "Well, we love you, Ms. Pat."
[39:19] Tyler Perry: "I love you. How can you not love Ms. Pat?"
The episode concludes with heartfelt expressions of support and camaraderie among the hosts and Ms. Pat, reinforcing the strong relationships and mutual respect within the show.
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Tyler Perry on Show's Success:
This episode of The Breakfast Club offers an intimate glimpse into Ms. Pat's journey through trauma, healing, and the challenges of navigating fame and a demanding career. Through candid conversations, Ms. Pat and Tyler Perry share their personal struggles and triumphs, emphasizing the importance of authenticity, resilience, and supportive relationships in overcoming adversity. The episode not only highlights Ms. Pat's impactful show but also underscores the value of open dialogue in fostering healing and connection within the community.
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