Best of full interview: Omarion Talks Millennium Tour, The Art Of Swooning A Woman, Love Life + More

Summary

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The Breakfast Club – Best of Full Interview: Omarion Talks Millennium Tour, The Art Of Swooning A Woman, Love Life + More

Date: January 2, 2026
Podcast: The Breakfast Club (iHeartPodcasts)
Hosts: DJ Envy, Charlamagne Tha God, Jess Hilarious (with guest Gisele Bryant)
Guest: Omarion

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Overview

This episode spotlights Omarion, R&B superstar and former B2K frontman, sharing candid reflections on his evolving career, personal growth, the Millennium Tour, his perspective on R&B and relationships, and tips on seduction. Anchored in his signature Zen approach, Omarion discusses maturing in the public eye, his artistic journey, ventures into acting, and modern dating culture. Both playful and thoughtful, the conversation blends nostalgia, wisdom, and humor.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Setting the Tone: Omarion's Morning & Mindset

• Routine and Intention
  • Omarion begins the interview discussing his tranquil morning routine, including showering, affirmations, and intention-setting.
  • Quote: "I'm intentional. I don't take things personal." (Omarion, 04:10)
• Noted by hosts as the "Zen king," Omarion shares how not personalizing situations helps him stay unbothered.

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Millennium Tour, Longevity & Performance

• Tour Details & Nostalgia ([05:00])
  • Omarion hypes the 2025 Millennium Tour, calling it "a moment" that blends nostalgia with new memories.
  • The tour now embraces classic and new-era artists—“It brings you back to a memory and creates a new memory at the same time.” (Omarion, 05:44)
• Lineup and Headlining
  • The current co-headline includes Trey Songz and Bow Wow.
  • Performance order rotates for festival-like energy, not just about being last on stage (07:12).
• Classics & New Music
  • 20th anniversary as a solo artist; promises all classics and new material (08:43).

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Growing Up in the Spotlight

• Challenge of Maturing Publicly ([09:03])
  • Being a childhood star makes public and business perceptions hard to shift: “People tend to just put you where they thought you were.”
  • Gaining independence and making career decisions without being ‘just the kid in the group’ was a major turning point.
  • Quote: "After my last couple of projects—supporting myself, being independent—I started to feel like, okay, now I have control of my career." (Omarion, 09:52)

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Artistic Expansion: Acting & New Roles

• New Acting Project: Wild Rose ([10:50], [14:40])
  • Omarion stars as an assassin in upcoming All Black TV series "Wild Rose," premiering in 2026. Shares insight on character work and psychological depth:
    • "He has 27 bodies. He does have a lot of psychological and emotional issues."
  • Vanessa Williams and Alan Payne play his parents.
  • Emphasizes craft, boundaries, and the energetic/spiritual connection to his long hair—his “antennas.”

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Dance: Art, Practice, and Teaching

• Dedication to Dance ([12:16])
  • Dance has been daily since childhood (“second nature”), and he discusses the discipline and pressure involved.
  • Few boys in dance; sees dance as its own language, particularly in how it relates to leading women.
• Dance Studio Ambitions
  • Omarion aspires to open creative spaces for young dancers, honoring the Boys & Girls Club roots.
• Notable Quote: “When you learn how to lead women in dance, you know how to lead them in real life.” (Omarion, 12:49)

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R&B Groups, Solo Careers & Artist Development

• Evolution of R&B ([19:56])
  • Omarion sees R&B as cyclical and evolving, hopeful for a resurgence of emotionally expressive music.
  • Notes the decline of groups due to challenges of unity, time, and inevitable breakups.
  • “I think everybody also, too, have the expectation that at some point in time, they’ll break up.” (Omarion, 21:03)
• Artist Development:
  • Suggests lack of true artist development and mentorship hurts modern acts. Wishes for more elders guiding newcomers.

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Modern Love, Seduction & Relationship Talk

• “The Art Of Swooning A Woman” ([23:33], [24:39])
  • Discusses contemporary dating, noting a shift to materialism and the “soft girl era.” Says true seduction now requires nuanced understanding and targeted effort.
  • “You have to be more specific if you really want to entice a woman.”
• Omarion’s Approach:
  • Prioritizes “gatherings” over formal "dates," asking deep, intention-centered questions ("What is your purpose in life?") ([25:16]).
  • Non-traditional relationship philosophy: not seeking titles, but creating unique bonds.
  • Memorable Quote: “Anytime I’m…involved with a woman, I let them know I’m not a traditional man. I’m not someone who subscribes to specific titles” (Omarion, 38:42)
• Boundaries, Trauma, and Healing
  • Self-checks to avoid trauma bonds; steers away from heavy drinkers.
  • Mindfulness and fasting play roles in his love life.

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Family, Co-Parenting & Growth

• Fatherhood & Co-Parenting:
  • Shares pride as a "first generational wealth builder" and his parental focus.
  • Co-parenting is in “a way better place” with the mother of his children—time has healed past issues ([34:06]).
• On reliving his love life on reality TV: never again; the pain was transformative but ultimately worth it ([33:37]).

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Reflections on B2K, Group Dynamics & Legacy

• Relationship with B2K ([39:18])
  • Honors the group's foundation but says there’s little current interaction, aside from rare cordial moments.
• Child Star & Celebrity Life:
  • Describes the intensity of peak fame (fans hiding in hotel rooms) and how fan culture has shifted. Still receives nostalgic gratitude.
  • Quote: "There was some times where… it was, like, dangerous. Five little strong girls is stronger than the biggest man." (Omarion, 41:06)

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Business Lessons, Independence & Industry Wisdom

• Major Label Experience ([45:15])
  • Worked with Epic, Young Money, Maybach Music, and learned the importance of clear business relationships with true decision-makers.
  • "I don't think they care… I think that a lot of people in the business are…numbers." (Omarion, 46:20)
• Now Independent:
  • Praises creative control, flexibility with new label Create.
• Advice to Young Self:
  • Emphasizes financial education, life insurance, and trusts—wishes he’d learned these earlier (50:11).

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Fun, Viral Moments & Collaborations

• Drake Dance Battle: ([51:23])
  • Lighthearted recounting of a viral dance-off with Drake at a birthday party (“I don’t believe that happened!”).
• Talks about creative cameos, such as the JT “You Got Served”-inspired feature, and hopes to collaborate more with emerging artists as well as child stars like Leon.

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Notable Quotes

• On Career Evolution & Independence:

  “After my last couple of projects—supporting myself, being independent—I started to feel like, okay, now I have control of my career.”
  – Omarion, 09:52

• On Seduction and Modern Relationships:

  “You have to be more specific if you really want to entice a woman.”
  – Omarion, 24:39

• On Leadership via Dance:

  “When you learn how to lead women in dance, you know how to lead them in real life.”
  – Omarion, 12:49

• On Artistic Authenticity:

  “Anytime I’m…involved with a woman, I let them know I’m not a traditional man. I’m not someone who subscribes to specific titles.” – Omarion, 38:42

• On Celebrity in the Pre-social Era:

  “There was some times where… it was, like, dangerous. Five little strong girls is stronger than the biggest man.”
  – Omarion, 41:06

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Important Timestamps

• [03:19] – Interview starts, Omarion welcomed
• [05:00] – Millennium Tour plans and nostalgic reflections
• [09:03] – Growing up and shifting perceptions in the industry
• [12:16] – Dance and performance as daily practice
• [14:40] – Acting in “Wild Rose,” prepping for character
• [19:56] – R&B’s current state and group decline
• [23:33] – Changing dynamics of seduction and relationships
• [25:16] – Why “gatherings” over “dates,” and his deep questions
• [34:06] – Co-parenting relationship update
• [39:18] – Status of B2K and group legacy
• [41:06] – Childhood celebrity and the weight of fan culture
• [45:15] – Industry lessons from major labels
• [50:11] – Financial wisdom and advice to his younger self
• [51:23] – Drake dance battle story

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Memorable Moments

• Omarion’s take on the spiritual significance of hair (19:00)
• Playful banter about age, “Uncle Baby Head” nickname, and generational shifts (04:23, 08:43)
• Honest discussion of relationships, avoiding trauma bonds, and non-traditional love lives (32:19, 38:42)
• Recollections of intense teen stardom and wild fan encounters (43:01)
• Insight on the lack of R&B groups and missing artist development in modern times (21:03)
• Light-hearted talk about shooting his shot at Nia Long and the Drake dance-off (36:13, 51:23)

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Summary

Omarion’s interview is both lighthearted and insightful, blending industry wisdom, spiritual self-care, and the joys and difficulties of living—and loving—in the spotlight. He honors his past but is firmly rooted in the present, focused on growth, legacy, and creative exploration—onstage and beyond.

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Transcript

[Omarion]

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[Omarion]

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[DJ Envy]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

You have to find joy in the work you do when no one else is around.

[DJ Envy]

Success is not an accident. I'm passing the ball to you. Let's go.

[Omarion]

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We were in the car Like a.

[Omarion]

Rolling Stone came on and he said, there's a line in there about your mother.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I said, what?

[Omarion]

What I would do if I didn't feel like I was being accepted is choose an identity that other people can't have. And I knew something had happened to me in the middle of the night, but I couldn't hold on to what had happened. These are just a few of the moving and important stories on my 13th season of family Secrets. Listen to Family secrets on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Dr. Elizabeth Poynter]

Welcome to Decoding Women's Health. I'm Dr. Elizabeth Poynter, chair of Women's health and gynecology at the Atria Health Institute in New York City. I'll be talking to top researchers and clinicians and bringing vital information about midlife women's health directly to you.

[Dr. Joy Harden Bradford]

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[Dr. Elizabeth Poynter]

Listen to Decoding Women's Health with Dr. Elizabeth Poynter on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Gisele Bryant]

You know the shade is always shadiest right here.

[Omarion]

So season six of the podcast Reasonably Shady with Gisele Bryant and Robyn Dixon is here dropping every Monday as two.

[Gisele Bryant]

Of the founding members of the Real Housewives Potomac. We're giving you all the laughs, drama, and reality news you can handle.

[Omarion]

And, you know, we don't hold back, so come be reasonable or shady with.

[Dr. Joy Harden Bradford]

Us each and every Monday, listen to.

[Gisele Bryant]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wake that ass up in the morning.

[Omarion]

The Breakfast Club.

[DJ Envy]

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, sir.

[DJ Envy]

Omarion.

[Omarion]

Hey, hey.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Welcome back. The good brother.

[Omarion]

Oh, hey, hey, hey.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What was the routine this morning, man? What did you do? Did you wake up? Pray, meditation?

[Dr. Joy Harden Bradford]

What was it?

[Omarion]

Yeah, a little moment to myself, you know what I'm saying? Shower up, get fresh, say my affirmations, put on my oud. I'm here.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What was your intention for today?

[Omarion]

To just have a good time, you know what I'm saying? Not put too much on it, you know what I'm saying?

[Gisele Bryant]

You are known as the Zen king. Like, how do you stay so tranquil? Like, so zenful through everything? Like, you don't let nothing bother you. Yo, I done came at you so many times.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So many.

[Gisele Bryant]

Like, yo, you let this man. He said, yeah, let's nothing get to him. I'm trying to get to that.

[Omarion]

I'm intentional. Yeah. I'm intentional. And also, I don't take things personal. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

[DJ Envy]

The wild thing is, you know, Omarion, I just looked it up. Omarion is 40 years old.

[Omarion]

Crazy.

[DJ Envy]

We've been seeing him grow up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He's still, I don't know, like, Omarion, 40. I. You still got baby head.

[Omarion]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's a blessing. It is.

[DJ Envy]

So people still look at you as a. Like a. A young. I can't say teen, but.

[Gisele Bryant]

Right.

[DJ Envy]

A young 20 year old, because that's what you look like.

[Omarion]

Yeah. Well, I mean, it does confuse people sometimes, but. Yeah. I think I made it to UNC status at this. At this point in time, you ain't gonna get. So. So why is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You can't be Uncle Baby head. No, no.

[Gisele Bryant]

The millennium tour is back.

[Omarion]

Yes, yes, yes, yes. I'm super Excited about it. We played barclays on the 21st, so if you ain't got your ticket, definitely pop out. It's a moment. It's a moment.

[Gisele Bryant]

What keeps you doing all this? After all, he is like, what keeps you doing this?

[DJ Envy]

He's still doing flips and dancing.

[Gisele Bryant]

Like, yo, like what?

[DJ Envy]

You twist your ankle, it gonna take a long time to heal.

[Omarion]

No, actually I have a routine of making sure that I, you know, stay energized. I'm a performer, so it's important that I take care of my body. But the Millennium Tour, you know, is a series concert that has brought nostalgic literally back on the planet. You know, my era and my time, I'm so happy to been a part of it because, you know, it brings you back to a memory and creates a new memory at the same time, you know, so I'm excited. Yeah, we keeping it going. We keeping that energy going.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Can I ask you what 40 felt like? I remember how I felt when I turned 40.

[Omarion]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Where were you? What were you doing? How did it feel? Because to me, it felt like I really entered a new dimension when I turned for it.

[Omarion]

Yeah. So I usually don't do anything for myself and shout out to Janine, who helped me put together my birthday party. But I had a birthday party in Malibu, and it was such an amazing gathering, you know, all of my friends came out, my family. So I did something for myself, you know, which was the throw a party. It was a lot of beautiful people in the building. So that's what I did for my birthday.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Did you feel like yourself going into a different level of consciousness?

[Omarion]

For sure. A different level of maturity, a certain level expectation for myself. The things that I'm creating now, you know, why am I still doing it? I definitely feel like I've arrived because I'm one of the few entertainers that has grown up in the public eye. So growing up has, you know, been a challenge at some times in my career. You know what I mean? So I finally feel like I've arrived to that place where, you know, I can have a say so and people understand it and respect it. So now how do y' all figure.

[DJ Envy]

Out who closes the Millennium Tour? Like, who closes that show? You got so many artists on there, right? And you're one of the originators on that tour. So who closes the Millennium Tour?

[Omarion]

Well, it is a co headline, you know, myself, Trey and Bao. So it's kind of meant to be like a festival vibe, you know, Any real performer, artist will tell you sometimes it's not best to close the show because, you know, the energy is drained. You know, you kind of want to go maybe second, you know, the last. So for me, yeah, I don't really trip off of that, but, yeah, that's how we decide between us and the promoters.

[DJ Envy]

How do you headline? So is it like you do two, then you jump and do two, and Trey jumps in and do two?

[Omarion]

Exactly. Yeah. Maybe Trey will close, and then me and Bow will swap in between. Seen, you know, him going last before Trey or maybe going last before Trey. So, yeah.

[Gisele Bryant]

So I know before, you know, the Millennium tour, it was B2K. Why not B2K this run?

[Omarion]

Well, this one was kind of more so framed for this class. You know, all the. If you look at the, you know, who's on there now, it's a lot of non millennium, you know, artists, you know what I'm saying? Like, I think it's so cool that Boosie's gonna be on there. You know what I mean? Yeah. Applies. I think we're gonna get some special guests as well. Exactly. The whole vibe. So it's kind of, I would say, a little bit different than, you know, like the previous years. So, yeah, that's. That's how. That's.

[Gisele Bryant]

So are we getting all the O, like the.

[Omarion]

Yeah, we getting the classics. No, Skip, we getting the classics.

[Gisele Bryant]

So we getting that.

[Omarion]

Yeah, we getting the class. It's actually my 20th year anniversary of putting in being a solo artist.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Omarion]

Time is flying. Yeah. So, yeah, we get into classics. And also I'll be introducing some new music. You know, I mean, I got some new music, some new slaps. I'm gonna be performing as well.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So you said something that was interesting. You said growing up for you was a challenge. Why was growing up a challenge? Did you mean personally or professionally?

[Omarion]

Both. Oh, just because, you know, when you're young and people see you're young, you don't change much. You know what I mean? Like, physically, you know, because I take care of myself, you know, people tend to just, you know, put you where they thought that you were, you know what I'm saying? So, yeah, it's been a challenge in that way. And then also in business, you know, just really being able to, like, have a say. So. And then I just be like, okay, well, you're a kid. You know what I mean? Any child stars will tell you, you know, having a foot in control in their business is a struggle when you start young.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

When did that change? Like, when did people start saying, okay, this is Omarion the grown man, not the kid from B2K.

[Omarion]

I think once I really started taking full responsibility for my independence, you know, trying different things, I think that, you know, when you're in the industry for a long time, it is peaks and valleys, you know, you're not gonna have 10 hot moments. You know what I'm saying? You might have a down moment. You might have a transitional moment. I think that it's okay, you know, when you're finding your way. And I feel like after my last, like, couple of projects, you know, just supporting myself, being independent, like, I started to feel like, okay, now I have control of my career. Oh, I want to put this out. Okay, maybe I should put it out this way. You know, maybe I should do things differently. You know, I grew. I grew into that. So I'm, like, very proud of that, you know, because a lot of artists don't get the chance to do that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's true. And nobody talks about that, right? Like, nobody talks about when you're red hot and, yeah, there's an ice box where your career used to be. You know what I mean? Like, I mean, I don't feel like you've ever been through that, because you're always on the road.

[Omarion]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And. And I've been gifted, you know, with the talent to be able to do many things. Like, two years ago, I believe the last time we spoke, you know, I was promoting my book, so there's always something for me to do. Something new that I just did that's really exciting is a show called the Wild Rose with all black. So I'm gonna be, you know, hitting your TVs in 2026. I play an assassin, so it's something different. Oh, first of all, yeah, I'm doing fighting scenes. I'm socking and popping. Wow. So you will be seeing me in a whole.

[Gisele Bryant]

Sin King is now an assassin.

[Omarion]

I mean, you know, I'm acting exactly, right? But, you know, the real true measure of an actor is to tell the truth. You know what I'm saying? So get to show a different side of myself. I'm excited about that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I feel like that's a natural transition for all you flexible guys. Seriously, like, you, Chris Brown, like, y' all should be doing action movies.

[Omarion]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whooping ass. That's a part.

[DJ Envy]

And I got a different respect for you now. Right. And I'll tell you why. So my daughter's dance, right? And the amount of, I would say, pressure they have when they dance, but also the amount of time it takes to Practice?

[Omarion]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Like, I. I never thought about it. And then when they go to these competitions and they dance and everything they did, they do ballet, hip hop, jazz, whatever it takes. And I'm like, jesus Christ. The fact that Omarion has to do that and sing and not worry about. And not lose breath and remember the steps.

[Omarion]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Growing up, how often did you dance?

[Gisele Bryant]

Like, how.

[Omarion]

Every day. Every day? Every day. That was like a big part of. Of, you know, my existence in my career. Dancing is second nature. And the singing part too, you know, the breath, you know, really, you know, being able to know, like, okay, this is a live performance. Maybe I shouldn't do the routine right here. I definitely have grown in that space.

[DJ Envy]

Even. Even boys, I don't see too many boys, young boys or men dancing.

[Omarion]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Like, you'll see, for every 1,000 girls, you see two. Two boys. Yeah.

[Omarion]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Because I guess it's a thing. No boy wants to dance.

[Omarion]

But it's crazy because it's a whole language, you know, Especially when it comes to women. You know, when you learn how to lead women in dance, you know how to lead them in real life.

[DJ Envy]

So do you have your children in dance? Do you always dance?

[Dr. Elizabeth Poynter]

Do they dance?

[Omarion]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. My daughter's in gymnastics. My son, he more so, like, he's a little too cool for it. I was the same way early on, but, yeah, he still can dance.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So that's how you be seducing women. You be like, let me show you some moves. Yeah, you know, that's what you do.

[Omarion]

No, I start at the mind first. I start with the mind first, and then. And then, you know, then I get into dance moves.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

When did. When did you first start learning to dance?

[Omarion]

It's. I had my first dance recital at either three or five.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wow.

[Omarion]

Yeah. Yeah, so. And it was tap dance. So I've been dancing my whole life.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So they always. They always knew that you was going to be an entertainer?

[Omarion]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wow.

[Omarion]

Yeah, very much so.

[DJ Envy]

With the dance world so big, you never thought about doing something in dance? Like, you know, how they have America's Got Talent, all these different challenges and all these different shows, you never thought about creating your own because you're one of hip hop's dances?

[Omarion]

Yeah, no, I definitely.

[DJ Envy]

Especially see an old girl at the Olympics and what people thought hip hop, break dancing was.

[Omarion]

Right, right, right. Damn. I was. I was mad at that. Yeah, I was mad at that. But, yeah, I definitely. I want to open up some dance studios. I believe I've been talking about it for years. But just, you know, really waiting for the opportunity to create a creative space for kids. Because that's how I grew up. You know, I went to the Boys and Girls Club. It was always stuff to do, you know, so I definitely gonna do either a TV show or open up a facility. For sure, for sure.

[Gisele Bryant]

Now going back to wild roles, right? Cause you also executive Produ, like you producing that too. What was the process of like getting into that role? Because I mean. Cause playing an assassin, that just don't come natural to you. Or have you killed niggas before?

[Omarion]

You know, I don't know.

[Gisele Bryant]

You know, what was that process like?

[Omarion]

So that process was deep. You know, I definitely had an assistance with my acting coach. And, you know, I really started diving into who is this person who is Rose? You know, he has 27 bodies. So he does have a lot of psychological and emotional issues. And how it pertained to, you know, this particular scene or, you know, at one point in time, we reveal that my family is not no longer with me. That's something that brings him anxiety. He's actually a righteous kill. Sometimes, you know, he gets in trouble with his agency, which is called Civil, by the way. Vanessa E. Williams plays my mom. And I also want to talk about my boy. What's my boy? Yeah. Alan Payne. Oh, wow. My boy Alan Payne plays my father, you know, in it. So I'm surrounded by great, incredible actors. But yeah, I did my due diligence. And also I really wanted to bring the character to life because he struggles with, I think, a lot of things that a lot of men go through. And that is. Is wanting to have a foundational relationship with their family. You know, I mean, it's obviously tumultuous because I'm an assassin, but I show that journey. I end up bodyguarding for this very famous singer named Samaya. Shout out to Casey Gardner, a new actress that's going to be on the scene and shout out to Daisy Lee Ray. But it's gonna be something to watch. Yeah. So look for that. All Black 2026.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's got to be tough though, when you are a purg. Just person who practices mindfulness the way you do.

[Omarion]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

To get into a person who's dealing with so much, so much trouble, it is. How did you. How did you get out of.

[Dr. Elizabeth Poynter]

Get.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Get out of character?

[Omarion]

I made certain ticks, you know, for the character. And I also, you know, lend myself to it. So it was never in. In a negative way. You know, there are certain scenes where, you know, I, I, without giving away Too much of the story. There are certain scenes where I had to, like, really dig deep beyond myself and do the research. Like, you know, how would I feel if I killed someone? You know, what would I feel? You know? And because I've, you know, stitched out the character so well, I'm able to kind of say, okay, this is the difference between me and him. You know, now I can take him off and I can be myself. So a little stuff like that, my wardrobe, the way I looked. I look differently.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So do you have boundaries for as far. As far as how far you'll go as an actor? Like, how far you. How deep you'll go?

[Omarion]

I haven't found any yet. I haven't found any yet. I think the only maybe challenge would be like cutting my hair. Yeah. Because, you know, my hair is. Is sacred to me, is something that is spiritual for me, too. My spiritual antennas. So that's like. I went out for a bunch of different roles. Actually. I went out for Sammy Davis Jr. Role.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, you had to cut your hair for that?

[Omarion]

That was a conversation. That was a conversation. That was a tough one. Just because I feel like, to a degree, you know, you don't want to lose yourself in certain characters. You know, you playing a character for three months, it really does become who you are. So I'm very mindful that that's probably my only challenge. But there's wigs. There's wigs.

[DJ Envy]

You know, I don't think you put all that under a wig.

[Gisele Bryant]

That's the laugh.

[Omarion]

Now you can. You could wrap this thing up well.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Omarion]

You feel me?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Pat it down.

[Omarion]

There's some real professionals in this game. Trust me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yo, that's interesting, man. Cause I wonder what's more important nowadays, Your personal or your professional? Because it's only, like you said, it's only three months.

[Omarion]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But then I gotta live the rest of my life, and I'm the one that gotta deal with this.

[Omarion]

Exactly.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Is it worth it?

[Omarion]

I don't know. You know, I think for some people, it depends on the check, you know? And for a person like me, I think it depends on the story. It depends on where I am and if I really do feel like it is my duty as an actor to tell this story. So I think it's some factors, you know, I mean, but I'm very, like, connected with myself spiritually, and. And my hair is a. Is an identity, you know, for. For myself.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So what's the spiritual connection with your hair?

[Omarion]

Just your antennas. You know, I think when you see people that Grow hair. You know that it takes time. Anytime you see any elders that have long hair, you know, you respect them automatically because, you know, it's a process. And also, I come from a hair family, so, you know, having healthy hair has always been just, you know, mandatory.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So you look down on bald people?

[Omarion]

Nah, I was raising. Come on.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was just saying I have no antenna.

[DJ Envy]

No antenna.

[Gisele Bryant]

Because I am follically challenged.

[Omarion]

So wait a minute.

[Gisele Bryant]

Don't do none of this.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wow.

[Omarion]

Come on. No, no, no.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, why bald people?

[Omarion]

Yeah. Okay, there it is. No, actually, it's certain bald people you just don't want to mess with. You know what I'm saying? So disrespect.

[DJ Envy]

Now I want to get into R and B music. What's your thoughts on R and B music now? Right. Growing up, there was always R and B groups, right? Whether it was white or black, whether it's New Edition or Pretty Ricky or B2K or whoever it may be. Boyz II Men, you don't see that now?

[Omarion]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Why is that, and why do you think that is? And what's your thoughts on R and B music today?

[Omarion]

I think that R and B music is an ever evolving, changing, you know, just like all genres of music, you know, country coming. I feel like it goes through a type of evolution. I think R and B is definitely rearing its head back in the sentimental and expressive way that we talk about our emotions. That's why I loved R B. I loved R and B because there was this sentiment that if it was your icebox representing your heart, these metaphors that kind of allow men to express themselves. So I feel like it's in a. It's in a dope state. Like, one of my favorite songs out right now is Mutt by Leon. Yeah, so. So it's like when people like him and, you know, some other new artists that, you know, have really put the time in to express their emotion, I feel like it's. It's going back.

[DJ Envy]

I was talking specifically groups.

[Omarion]

Oh, okay. Groups.

[DJ Envy]

You don't see that anymore. Do you think people don't want to put the time and energy and effort into it anymore? They want a quick turnaround?

[Omarion]

No, I. I think. I think. I think that's a factor. And I also feel like. I don't know if there's. I haven't seen a lot of people band together outside of, like, hip hop and gangs. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's not. I'm pretty sure there's some out there, but not at the forefront yet. And I feel like that time, you know, maybe within a year or two, we'll probably see some. Some really dope groups. But it's just like, I think everybody also, too, have the expectation that at some point in time, they'll break up, you know, So I think that there is a brotherhood, a type of brotherhood you have to kind of display.

[Gisele Bryant]

And that does take a lot of time. Right. I mean, like, even, like, because what you can do solo, it would take, what, 10 times longer to do it with the group, because that's like one band, one sound. Y' all have to get on one accord.

[Omarion]

Exactly.

[Gisele Bryant]

All be aligned. Harmonization, you know, all of that. So that did. It took a lot of time.

[Omarion]

It did.

[Gisele Bryant]

With making music with B2K, as opposed to doing it yourself.

[Omarion]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dr. Elizabeth Poynter]

Can you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Can you have a great group or maybe even a great R and B singer without artist development? I feel like that's what's missing from the game.

[Omarion]

That is missing from the game. Yeah. And I would say that is the reason why, you know, for us, you know, when I was in the group, that we had the run that we had because we spent so much time together, we had one common goal. You know, we were focused on one thing. And it's so hard, you know, after success to kind of keep that path. So it is a little bit more difficult unless it's like family. But even family, you know, family fight, too. You know what I mean? So, yeah, I think it is, you know, about developing something, and I would love to do that in the future, you know, if I ever had an opportunity to, you know, bring a group to the forefront, you know, I mean, I feel like that's what's missing, too. It's just like having elders, having people that have gone through certain experiences. It's like, you know, some of the Y ends, you know, they don't have big homies, you know, they don't have people that could be like, I'm going through this, you know, what do you think? I can't wait for the game to get back to that place.

[DJ Envy]

And also, you know, Jagged Edge was here.

[Omarion]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

They were talking about people don't sing to the vagina anymore.

[Omarion]

Yeah. Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Like, they don't ass.

[Omarion]

They don't beg.

[DJ Envy]

Why you looking at me like that?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Cause you talking this guy crazy. Yo, I'm.

[Omarion]

They don't ask.

[DJ Envy]

They don't beg anymore.

[Omarion]

Yeah, the vagina has changed.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You can get it made now. You gotta make sure they're not genetically modified.

[Omarion]

Yeah, the vagina has changed.

[DJ Envy]

What do you mean it's changed?

[Omarion]

Yeah, I feel like, you know, you know, there's this thing called soft girl era, you know what I mean? And I don't know, it's just. I feel like it's so materialistic, you know, I mean, like, in order to really, you know, swoon a woman, you have to really find a particular type and you have to appeal to her, you know, differently than you maybe had to appeal to her, generally speaking, back in the day, you know, I mean, so I would say it's. It's different, you know how you can wake up those senses. It depends on the woman, you know what I mean? Because some women will not be turned on by a nice guy, you know, I mean, some women get turned on by assholes and people who are disrespectful and call them out their names. Some women are really just into that, you know what I mean? Some women, you know, vagina only get wet with money, you know what I mean? So, yeah, I think it's a little bit different. And you have to be more specific if you really want to entice a woman, you know what I mean?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Lyrically, doesn't that require us to vibrate Heido? And what I mean by that is if a woman is only used to eating fast food, yeah, you know, she out the country and she eat a real fruit and you're like, damn, I.

[Omarion]

Didn'T know mango in Jamaica, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So don't that require us to vibrate higher?

[Omarion]

I agree. Yeah, I agree. That's. That's the tip I'm on, you know, I mean, outside of being mature and having my experiences, you know, really just being able to have a good conversation, you know, an in depth conversation. Somebody asked me the other day, like, what are some of the questions that I asked on, you know, a first gathering? I don't call them dates, you know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Gathering? Yeah, gathering.

[Omarion]

Yeah, gathering.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why they call it a first gathering?

[Omarion]

Because I think a date carries a certain level of expectation, you know, whether that be a place or whether that be a price budget, you know, I mean, I think a gathering kind of keeps it on a. On a very, just non assuming, low level expectation. And really when you get to know somebody, you don't need much, you know, you just need conversation and great questions, you know, I'm saying? And nice ambiance. So yeah, for my first gatherings, you know, I asked very serious questions, you know, like, you know, what is your purpose in life? You know, I mean, what is your.

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[Omarion]

Us, we are in a divisive time where our comments are weaponized against us. And so what we find is a.

[Dr. Elizabeth Poynter]

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[Omarion]

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[Omarion]

Like if we're on the air here and I literally have my contract here and I'm looking at, you know, as soon as I sign this, I'm gonna get a seven figure check. I've told them I won't be working here in two weeks.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Omarion]

I really just had never experienced anything like what was going on in the city as far as, like, you know, seeing so many young, black affluent creatives.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Gisele Bryant]

And God said, this is your assignment. And that's like how, you know, like.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Omarion]

For real. I ain't got to say too much.

[Gisele Bryant]

I'm Grady, baby. Shut up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Omarion]

So when I got attacked, it was very random. Four guys jumped out of a car and just started beating me and my friend. And they broke my jaw, my teeth. I was unconscious. Then I woke up and I screamed. And I screamed because even though I didn't, I didn't know who I was or where I was, something in me was just like, hold on, wait, they could kill me. And I'm not going to let that happen. I'm not going to let that happen. I'm going to get through this.

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Omarion]

I will continue getting stuff from Target and I will continue to not pay for it.

[Brad Palumbo]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Omarion]

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[Dr. Joy Harden Bradford]

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[Omarion]

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[Omarion]

Oh, jump straight out. What you gonna do to it, baby?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's not a gas.

[Omarion]

That's a great question. Do you know what you're doing, baby? Do you have another experience? But yeah, questions like that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But I think you set the tone because they see you. Oh, so they see you on Instagram, they see how you've grown and evolved. They see what you on. So they feel like they gotta be there too, I would think.

[Omarion]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I definitely have my own personal challenges as well because again, you know, we are a vibration of people, you know, I mean, so sometimes things can look good on the outside, but then once you really get into it, you like, oh, there are some, there's some things you have to fix that I can't help you with. You know what I mean? So I always give myself room. I say that my timeline is like two years. I give myself two years with a person to really figure out if I'm, you know, gonna continue with them. You know, I mean, I gotta see their family, I gotta see their best friends and we actually have to go through something to see if, yeah, you can be. In my life.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Have you ever been turned off by a, a woman's trauma because you can't be a person's healing?

[Omarion]

Yeah, yeah, for sure.

[Dr. Elizabeth Poynter]

Okay.

[Omarion]

For sure. I think particularly women that drink that over drink, you know what I mean? It's really hard because they mask it with the drink, you know, in a good time, you're never able to really see, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, so fasting is a part of, you know, being with me too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Has that ever been too much for a woman? Has a woman ever said, look, man, I like you, but I'm not with all of this mindfulness stuff that you want.

[Omarion]

No, no, no, I don't really run into that issue and I don't frame it in the way. I don't frame it in the way. It's just more so like, yo, let's be healthy, like, oh, I'm about to go on a fast. You want to join? You know what I mean? It's no pressure.

[Gisele Bryant]

So what does the love look, Love life look like for today?

[Omarion]

I mean, to be fair, you know, I have two beautiful and amazing kids. And, you know, any parent will tell you once you have kids, there's. The love level is just astronomical when you have kids, you know, because they love you, they don't care what you did yesterday and today, you know, so I'm, I'm just chilling right now, you know, I mean, I'm first generational wealth builder, so I'm still focusing on continuing my legacy and building for them. You know, I have, I have a friend or two. You know what I mean? But, you know, it's nothing, it's nothing serious.

[Gisele Bryant]

Okay, cool.

[DJ Envy]

Now we've seen your love life play out on TV a little bit.

[Omarion]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Would you ever do that again?

[Omarion]

Have your love?

[DJ Envy]

Never. No, not again.

[Omarion]

Yeah, yeah. Nah, I think hurt you will help you. I think of a little bit of both. Yeah. I think in order to really transform as a man, you know, it had to be a little painful, you know, in order for you to change and be like, oh, I don't want to go through that again. But, yeah, I love love. And I'm definitely not a person that's like, so hurt that I can't open myself up to it.

[Gisele Bryant]

So is everything better with you and the mother of your children?

[Omarion]

Yeah, yeah, we're. We're in a better place. We're in a way better place. I mean, you know, mega's 10. My daughter, she'll be nine March 7th. So, you know, they're. They're getting older. So, yeah, you know, time and time really help. Helps things. So, yeah, we're in a better place.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Have you ever. How do you avoid trauma bonds?

[Omarion]

I ask questions. You know, I ask questions and I think that that is what, you know, gives me the foresight to know, like, okay, this person is on that level, you know, I mean, to make sure that I'm not. And also I check in with myself, you know, I mean, and I make sure that, you know, I'm dealing with whatever personal issues, I handle it. So that's how, that's how I now.

[Gisele Bryant]

You know, I gotta ask you this. I've seen a tick tock Go viral where I said I was about to say, be Simone. Raven Simone has said she was pregnant by you a long time ago. Like in the younger days when the hell that happened.

[Omarion]

So this is. You know, the Internet is a wild place. So if you look at the regular. The normal interview, the regular interview that they did, someone edited it and they. And they had her saying that because what happened, what she was saying on set, that, you know, they have this certain level of expectation and people thought that she was pregnant with my child.

[Gisele Bryant]

While she was with K. Young. Okay, so they cut it.

[Omarion]

Yes, I got you. Yeah. So she didn't actually say that.

[Gisele Bryant]

Okay.

[Omarion]

Yeah, she didn't say we.

[Gisele Bryant]

Were you ever messing around for somebody? That was all speculation and everything like that.

[Omarion]

I never been in a room butt naked with her. You know what I mean? So.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, yeah.

[Omarion]

But we did live in the same apartment complex when we were younger. There was this complex back in the day. All of the entertainer kids stayed there, so.

[Gisele Bryant]

Yeah.

[Omarion]

Yeah.

[Gisele Bryant]

Really?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, it was like a complex with all, like.

[Omarion]

Yeah. I mean, everybody that was making money. Really? Yeah, everybody lived there. Three LW lived there. Raven, Simone, a bunch of actors. Yeah, just a whole bunch of people was in Studio City.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I feel like a TV show.

[Omarion]

Yeah, I was ready before the TV show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was pretty good fun. Going to the gym and seeing whoever.

[Gisele Bryant]

Yeah.

[Omarion]

Okay. You working out today?

[DJ Envy]

At one time, you was applying a little bit of pressure on Nia Long.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Can't blame me for that, my brother.

[Omarion]

Yeah, I saw her this weekend.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I didn't see her present, but I saw her on Instagram at Floyd Mayweather party. Oh, my God, she's beautiful.

[Omarion]

Oh, she's beautiful. I would love to work with her. I would.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'd love to teach y' all to dance.

[Omarion]

I would love to work with her.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Have you ever really shot your shot?

[Omarion]

No, actually, after that moment, we were at, like a party and she was occupied, so. Yeah, no, I didn't get the chance to look at her. In her eye, we're both Scorpio, so I'm not sure what the energy would be like, but yeah, once y' all.

[Gisele Bryant]

Catch that eye contact.

[Omarion]

Yeah, no, she's. She's a beautiful woman. And then, you know, also, I don't know. I don't know how young her son is, but I don't know how. I don't know how young she goes. I don't know how exciting she wants her life to be.

[Gisele Bryant]

That's Neil Long. You know, she's still shooting that shot. You hear It.

[Omarion]

I don't know how exciting she wants.

[DJ Envy]

Her life to be right now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like 55, maybe 51.

[DJ Envy]

I don't think she.

[Omarion]

Yeah, I don't know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Neil Long is.

[Omarion]

I gotta go look. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I gotta look it up. But yeah, you know, I'm not afraid to learn.

[Gisele Bryant]

So what is your.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Age, brass? He's 54, but. Yeah, 54. That's not even old.

[Omarion]

Yeah, yeah.

[Gisele Bryant]

That ain't too old for you, 54. Nah, not when it's near long.

[Omarion]

Not when it's near long.

[Gisele Bryant]

Cause I know some other 54s.

[Omarion]

Yeah, yeah, that. You be like, jesus, Yeah, I said my age cut off would be like 47, you know what I mean? But a young 50, a young 55. Yeah, I would definitely, you know what I mean, have a gathering or two.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They all killing the young girls, by the way.

[Omarion]

Facts.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The Neil Longs, the Sinai Layton, the Angela Bassett of the world. They killing these.

[Omarion]

That's facts. That's facts. I would love to, you know, get in, get into their mental state, you know, I mean, because they are women that kind of stay away and they only pop out when it's time to. So I would love to, like have a conversation and see where their mind are.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But, you know, they only accept an honesty. They're older, they don't got time for them.

[Omarion]

And that's what I love. I lead with that, you know, I mean that, you know, being a young man and leading with honesty is like a double edged sword because, you know, some, some younger people are just not prepared for that. You know what I mean? But older women, they don't care. They don't care about that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So that's why you like deleon Thomas record. Because he's being so honest.

[Omarion]

He is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Have you ever had, you ever had to say that to somebody? Just let them know straight up, like, look, I'm not trying to settle down.

[Omarion]

I wouldn't frame it like that. Like I'm a dog, I'm a mutt. But yeah, yeah, I definitely. Anytime I'm, you know, involved with a woman, I let them know, you know, I'm not a traditional man. I'm not someone who subscribes to specific titles, you know what I'm saying? I like to create what, you know, what I want to call whatever it is that we make. So, yeah.

[Gisele Bryant]

Do you say grand rising or good morning?

[Omarion]

I say the rise is grand. The rise is grand, baby.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, yo.

[Gisele Bryant]

Okay, so what. What is your relationship going back? What is your relationship now with B2K? With the rest with the other three. Cause that is not. It's technically not B2K anymore, is it?

[Omarion]

I mean, I always will honor, you know, my group, my foundation, and, you know, where I come from, as far as personally, you know, we don't really have a relationship.

[DJ Envy]

None of them.

[Omarion]

Not. Not really. You know, I will say that Boog did come to one of my shows, and we chopped it up, you know, so there'll always be a type of love there. You know, we. We grew up together. And, yeah, you know, we. We did something in all of our lives that no one in our lives did, you know, I mean, so I think that there's always an honor system there, you know, not to speak negatively ever. And it just be like, yeah, you know, that was that.

[Gisele Bryant]

Did you guys know each other before the group started, or you guys were bought together as the group? That's.

[Omarion]

We were brought together as the group. Yeah. The first time I met them, it was at a New Year's Eve party, and they performed and I performed, and it was like, you want to be the lead singer? I was like, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. Yeah.

[Gisele Bryant]

And what about you and Marcus Houston? Are y' all close or.

[Omarion]

No?

[Gisele Bryant]

Okay, got you.

[Omarion]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know why we thought y' all was real brothers, you know, that was our thing.

[Omarion]

That was our thing back then, you know, I mean, anybody that was a part of the camp was fam. You know, that's like, oh, that's my cousin. You know what I'm saying? But, yeah, no real blood tie.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You were one of the few people who probably experienced real celebrity, right? Because I don't feel like there's real celebrity no more. Everybody should be a celebrity now.

[Omarion]

That's true.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, y' all had to, like, run from crowds, be. Be ducked off in disguise. Like, how did that feel? And was it hard to. When you weren't feeling it anymore?

[Omarion]

Yeah, no, I, I, I feel like it was amazing, you know, it was amazing to, you know, look back on it. There was some times where, you know, I think Bug got hurt. He got lifted up into a crowd. It was, like, dangerous, you know, I mean, because five little strong girls is stronger than the biggest man, you know? I mean, but looking back on that time and having it, you know, be a part of my experience as far as the organic, you know, energy between you and your fans was amazing. And when it changed, it changed. Not just for me, for everyone. You know, I think you still have a little bit of a fandom still today, but it's viewed different. It's almost like, are you okay? Why are you screaming? Are you okay? You know, I still. I still receive that love, you know, no matter where I'm at on the planet, people still come up to me and be like, wow, my childhood. Can I take a picture with you? So I always appreciate, you know, the influence that I've had on people's life experience through music, through movies, through. So, yeah, I don't feel no way about it. You know, I definitely feel like, you know, a sort of an elder on the scene, you know what I mean? That has had all the experiences.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So it's just different when you got the. When you were a child star.

[Omarion]

That's what I'm saying.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I guess that kid fan base, you.

[Omarion]

Know what I mean?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They act different than everybody else, period.

[Omarion]

And those fans are still with me to today. I'm so thankful for those fans that stuck with me because we're able to put on the millennium tour. We're able to, you know, bring that nostalgia back on the planet. Which, by the way, before the millennium tour, you know, that wasn't the show. That wasn't the, you know, the set list for, you know, all of these productions. You know what I mean? To have a little bit of nostalgia in your production, you know, is a great thing.

[DJ Envy]

Tell us the craziest story as a child, what Charlamagne was talking about, right? We always hear about the Michael Jackson story. People waiting in the airport for days, weeks. What was the craziest story that you remember as a child and.

[Omarion]

A girl being in our room before we got there? You know, the security would have to, like, check the room. I always thought that was weird because, you know, nobody knows.

[DJ Envy]

How would they?

[Omarion]

Girl sitting in there, crouching down. Soon as we walk and we like, oh, yeah.

[Gisele Bryant]

So it was a green room or like a.

[Omarion]

It was a green room. And then on my personal room, we, like, one of the workers just let themselves in. And I was, like, half sleep, and I woke up like, what are you doing?

[DJ Envy]

It was a girl.

[Omarion]

She was trying to gather, and she was like, hey. She was trying to get you. I'm like, while I'm asleep. No. What are you doing, though? You gotta go, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that was when it was, like, a little scary.

[DJ Envy]

That's when you was a kid.

[Omarion]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Jesus Christ.

[Omarion]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

When were you able to, like, walk around a mall by yourself? Because I know. I know there was a point. Y' all couldn't even do stuff like that.

[Omarion]

I don't know. I don't know. I still I can't do.

[Gisele Bryant]

Yeah, yeah.

[Omarion]

I still don't know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I mean. I mean, you're a star. I'm talking about, like, pandemonium riot.

[Omarion]

Oh, Maybe that happened after. After the. The group separated. Yeah, after the group separated, it shifted, you know, because if you walking in the, you know, the mall with. With, I mean, B2K was already four people and then plus four security guards. It's like, you know, you in there and you a mob. You know what I mean? So people are like. But, you know, if you want to do things quickly, you go along. And that's what I learned, you know, how to be stealthy. So. Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Did you find that your fans grew with you?

[Omarion]

Yes. Okay. Yes. A lot of them. I mean, a lot of them still, you know, still pop up to the shows and come to the meet and greets and everything, so. Yeah, yeah. Girls I grew up with, from New York City, they know who they are, you know, I mean, still come to my shows. They got kids got. Got work, all kind of stuff.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So you ever bring any of the kids and they got baby hairs and, you know, long.

[Omarion]

Yeah. I say what's up to their kids. Kids named after me? Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Named after you?

[Omarion]

Yeah. Kids named after me and everything. Like. Yeah, it's. It's. It's. It's a few kids out there named after Omarion.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Do they look like Omari?

[Omarion]

No, no, no.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Could they be Omarion's kids for real?

[Omarion]

Oh, no, no, no, no, no.

[DJ Envy]

Are they dancing at the Ghost at the meet and greets? That's what you're asking?

[Omarion]

Yeah, yeah. Nah, nah, nah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[Omarion]

No, I haven't met any of those yet, but I'm pretty sure that I've, you know, inspired some kids out there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, you've worked with a lot of legendary labels. Epic. You was with Young money for a little bit, made back music. What did you learn from each one of those experiences?

[Omarion]

Experiences that it's. It's very important to make sure that you create the relationship that you want. And, you know, like you said, I've dealt with so many different layers and levels of business. People, you know, at this particular time, you know, me and my team, we only dealing with the head, you know, pause. We're dealing with the top people, the people that are decision makers. So I think through all of that, you know, I mean, being on Maybach, because, you know, they were working with Atlantic. They were, you know, I won't say a subsidiary, but they did a, you know, a deal together.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Joint venture.

[Omarion]

Yeah, joint venture. That's what the word I was looking for. So, yeah, just really dealing with the top people. That's decision makers. That's the difference to today. Like, you know, when I'm doing business, I deal with the people that can move things.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Do you feel like. Do you feel like they realize the full potential of Omarion, any of those labels?

[Omarion]

I don't think they care. I don't think they care. I don't think it's. It's in the business's nature to care. I think that a lot of people in the business are, you know, just, you know, numbers. I think that there's a few executives that really care about the product, and they understand that in order to really make a. An intentional return, you got to be invested for real, not just on a financial level. You have to really know where the artist wants to take it. So that's been my experience.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And you indie now, right?

[Omarion]

Yes. Shout out to Create. I'm about to drop some new music. You know, myself and mbk, you know what I'm saying? We just doing a collaborative with Create. So. Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What about Bow Wow? You think you and Bow Wow ever do a join album again?

[Omarion]

I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I feel like if I'm gonna do, you know, any collaboration, whether it be rapper, singer, I feel like they have to have, like, current music out. You know, I'm saying music that and. And, you know, current music of the last maybe three to three years. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, if I'm gonna do a collaborative, it's gonna be like, okay, new music, we working on new vibes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why is that? Just because you feel like, you know, if you made music in the last three years, you actually care. You're active.

[Omarion]

Yeah, you're active. You know, I mean, like, you. You know, what's. You know, as far as producers, you know, I mean, like, what does that look like? And also, I feel like you. You have a. Like a better shot at putting something out, you know, like visuals. I think that today's artists, like, there's so many things that you have to do in order to, you know, really be visible. You know what I mean? So I would want someone as. Not just, you know, visible, you know, on social media, but, like, in the music too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I feel like you and Leon would cook up some shit together.

[Omarion]

Oh, yeah, that would be dope. That would be dope.

[Gisele Bryant]

And you did a you got served style cameo for jt.

[Omarion]

Oh, yeah, yeah, that was.

[Gisele Bryant]

That was really dope.

[Omarion]

Yeah.

[Gisele Bryant]

How did that come about.

[Omarion]

Yeah. So JT and their people hit me up and they was like, you know, we got this song, you know, And I felt like in a way it was also paying homage to Fat Man Scoop, you know what I'm saying? Rest in peace. So, yeah, it was cool. She asked me and I was just like, I got you. And she's such a sweetheart, you know what I mean? So I thought that was really, really dope. And I wish more artists would pay homage to the generation before them, you know, because we're still relatively young, you know what I mean? The 80s babies. I saw a video and it was like all these kids that were born in 2000, they were saying that you're old if you were born in 2000. And I'm like, huh? I'm like, so it seems like being older stops at 30, which is crazy. Crazy, you know, I mean. So, yeah, I would, I would definitely love to continue to do things like that, work with, you know, some of the younger talent in the business. Yeah, yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Have you ever reached out to Leon?

[Omarion]

No, no, no, not yet, but we've crossed paths. Yeah, we crossed paths. I love to see what he's doing, you know, I mean, like, he's, he's actually a child star too. You know, he's someone that started very, very young. So to see where he's at today is just, it's awesome. I feel like that's, you know, it's. It's very rare to see a lot of child stars continue on and continue to transform. And that's what I've always loved about music is you don't have to stop or you don't have to essentially get old. You know, you can pick up a, you know, a flute, you know, you can pick up an instrument, you can write, you can direct. You know, it's so much to do in our business.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Child styles don't go crazy like they used to. Like there was a time when the child started like the ones from the.

[Omarion]

80S, some still going crazy, but yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

For the most part, y' all keeping it together.

[Omarion]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What do you think? What's the one thing you wish you knew when you first started your career with 40 year old Omarion? What would he tell 16 year old Omarion?

[Omarion]

I think about like, life insurance policies, you know, trust, you know, just certain things that, you know, if you wanted to take a break, you could, you know, I'm saying that's something that I feel like, you know, finances. I just, I wish I would have, you know, been given that Game earlier on, I felt like, you know, maybe I would move differently, you know, if I had that. But, you know, everything is for. Is for a reason, so. Yeah. Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Well, definitely check him out on Tour. Millennium Tour, 2025.

[Omarion]

You're gonna be in New York.

[DJ Envy]

What's the date?

[Omarion]

We at the Barclays March 21st. Y' all pop out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, March 17th.

[Omarion]

Oh, it's March 17th.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what it says here.

[Gisele Bryant]

I don't know, maybe for my city, because I know Baltimore come out March 16th. He's at the CFG Bank arena, and then Barclays is the next day, March 17th.

[Omarion]

Oh, well, excuse me. I done messed it up. Don't listen to me. All right, all right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm looking forward to the music, man, because I'm always like, you know, brothers that are practicing mindfulness and, you know, really dealing with their emotional well being. Yeah. I like to see how that translates in that art. Yeah, I'm looking forward to the music.

[Gisele Bryant]

I'm looking forward to Wild Rose, the new series coming in 2026 on All Black. So I'm looking forward to that.

[Omarion]

Thank y' all so much.

[DJ Envy]

And just side note, we seen Drake beat you in the dance battle, too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Drake?

[DJ Envy]

Yeah. Him and Drake had a dance battle, and Drake killed him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't. I don't believe that. I didn't even see that, but I know. I know that didn't happen.

[DJ Envy]

Destroyed him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't believe that.

[Omarion]

He's like, I don't believe that.

[Gisele Bryant]

When was this?

[DJ Envy]

At his birthday party.

[Gisele Bryant]

Oh, he was at the birthday party.

[Omarion]

I was keeping it like.

[DJ Envy]

Light skin. We up one.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't believe that happened. It was your birthday party.

[Omarion]

No, it was his.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, okay, okay, okay.

[DJ Envy]

All right.

[Omarion]

Well, it is.

[DJ Envy]

It's the Breakfast Club of Mariana.

[Omarion]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wake that ass up in the morning.

[Omarion]

The Breakfast Club. This is an I heart podcast. Guaranteed human.