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Jason Alexander
I'm Jason Alexander. And I'm Peter Tilden. And together, our mission on the really Know really podcast is to get the true answers to life's baffling questions, like why the bathroom door doesn't go all the way to the floor. What's in the museum of failure, and does your dog truly love you? We have the answer. Go to reallynoreally.com and register to win $500, a guest spot on our podcast or a limited edition sign. Jason Bobblehead. The really no really podcast. Follow us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Peter Tilden
Wake that ass up early in the morning.
DJ Envy
The Breakfast Club.
Charlemagne tha God
Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy Jess. Hilarious Charlemagne, the guy we are the Breakfast Club. Jess is on maternity leave, so Lauren LaRosa is filling in. And we got a special guest in the building. We have Pastor Stephanie E.K. okafor. Did I say it right?
Peter Tilden
You said it good.
Charlemagne tha God
Okay. Thank you so much. Welcome.
Peter Tilden
Thank you.
Charlemagne tha God
How you feel?
Peter Tilden
I feel good.
DJ Envy
Are you related to the basketball player?
Peter Tilden
No. Okay.
DJ Envy
Okay. Got you, got you, got you, got you. So you got a new book out now, the power of your dreams.
Peter Tilden
Yeah.
DJ Envy
I love a good dream book. I'm the type of person that I keep dream books by my bedside, so when I wake up, I can look and see what certain things mean. Is that what got you into wanting to write this book?
Peter Tilden
No. So I encountered God when I was nine years old, and one of the ways that was so consistent was that he will speak to me through dreams. And it's interesting when you talk about, you know, using, like, having books that tell you about symbols and things like that, because I think one of the reasons why maybe sometimes people don't even understand the fullness of their dream is because they pick it apart. And the. The whole dream is telling a message. So if you only pick it apart, you may not understand the fullness of it. But dreams has been so consistent for me ever since 9 years old.
DJ Envy
That is a great point because I never look at the whole totality of my dream. I find, like, one thing that that stood out.
Peter Tilden
It's like a WebMD of dreams. When people, like, get books or go on Google and you're like, you only look at one thing. And that's one of the things I talk about in the book, where you have to look at it like a whole story and to understanding each symbol to tell the. You know, kind of like, tell. What is the dreams really saying?
Jess
Now?
Charlemagne tha God
You said you had an encounter with God at the age of nine.
Peter Tilden
Yeah.
Charlemagne tha God
What was that encounter? What did he say? What was that conversation?
Peter Tilden
What?
Charlemagne tha God
What? Just enlighten us with what it was.
Peter Tilden
Yeah, so my father was murdered when I was 8 months old. And so I grew up with like a lot of anger. And there was one day that, you know, my mom was looking for this document and I was just like, she. It was something that she really needed, you know, just for the times that we were in. And I was like, man, God, you know, if you didn't take my father, it was just another reason why I got angry again. But that day, literally, like, I remember being in my room and I could feel like a presence in my room, but it wasn't scary. But then for a nine year old, it's like, bruh, who's in my room? You know? And I want. I go to my mom's room because I'm like, whatever is going on there, I don't want no parts of it. So I go to my mom's room and she's up, she's in her bed, she's like, what are you doing? I was like, oh, no, I just want to, you know, sleep. Sleep in your room. She's like, okay, hop in. So the moment I hop in her bed, she's out cold, like, not moving, not responding. And I feel the same presence again in her room. And I didn't really believe in God at that age, but my mom has always been a strong believer. And so I didn't even know. Now I knew it was the Holy Spirit. Then I didn't realize what made me ask the question. And I was like, God, if this is of you. Because I was thinking, okay, if this is my mom's God, he can't harm me. I'm like, if this is of you, cause wind to flow through my ankles. And out of nowhere, the windows are not open, nothing. There was like this wind that just flows through me because with my eyes closed, I could see a man sitting, but his whole makeup was like light. So then I remove like the covers of my eyes and I see him with my eyes open, sitting there. And he gets up, he walks over to my mom, and I start asking him questions because I thought it was God. And I was like, where were you? With my dad. Dad. And he starts saying something. I had no clue what he was saying. He walks over to my mom, he opens her hand, he puts like this piece of paper in her hand, closes, it disappears. So when that happened, my mom gets up and I was like, mom. So I open her hand. There's nothing there. And like, mom, like, this just happened. Da, da, da, da. She was like, stephanie, I thought it was God. I was like, God was in the room. And she's like, I don't think it works like that. So she goes back to bed. She's like, stephanie, I think you're tripping. She wakes up that morning, her pastor calls her. And he was like, hey, I was in prayer. And I just feel led to tell you that there was an angelic encounter in your home. But he didn't know to the degree of what he was even saying. And I was like, mom, I'm telling you, this happened randomly. The document we had been literally ripping the whole house apart for just shows up on the table. And then I'm like, wait, was that the document? Like, was that what symbolized, like, they put in our hand? And so I'm like, oh, my gosh, I met God. And then I started hearing the voice of God, and he was like, no, that was not me. That was an angel. And then he starts describing to me who angels are, but then points me to read the Bible. I had never really read the Bible to tells me what scriptures to read. I could hear it so clearly. And I'm like, mom, I need a Bible. I need, like, a study, a kid's Bible. And I. I'm like, so she's the one guiding me where to go to to read those scriptures. And I'm literally seen in the scripture when it talks about angels and X, Y, and Z. And after that, it was like something just unlocked for me spiritually. I started hearing the voice of God. I will have encounters in dreams. Some dreams was like a very, like, you know, just. It didn't even need to be explained. The dream was literally like an encounter. And then some dreams were just like symbols that had hidden messages in it. And that became like, my life ever since then.
DJ Envy
What did the angel look like? Did it look like homie from the Crossroads video touching people between eyes?
Peter Tilden
No, it was so he had, like a. He had a human form, but the only difference, his whole makeup was light. That was. Everything about him was, like, light radiating. So I couldn't even tell you what he. How to describe his features because it was just light.
DJ Envy
I'm sorry. I just want to say I believe her because I've seen the same thing exactly like that.
Peter Tilden
How old were you?
DJ Envy
I was actually old. I was in my teenage years, and I remember laying in the bed sleeping, and I thought I was dreaming, and it looked like my bedroom door Bursted open. And when it burst it open, it was just this figure that was light.
Peter Tilden
Yeah.
DJ Envy
It had a human form.
Peter Tilden
I couldn't see a face, but it.
DJ Envy
Had a human form, but it was just light.
Peter Tilden
Yeah, yeah. What happened after that?
Charlemagne tha God
He seen aliens too. An alien came and got him too.
Peter Tilden
I could tell you stories. You believe in aliens too? We called them aliens, but they're really just demonic spirits.
Charlemagne tha God
Oh, I believe he is alien. Shot him in the leg.
Peter Tilden
Tell the story, tell the story.
DJ Envy
He's making this up. And it's crazy that we're having a real conversation about God, but he would try to interject.
Lauren LaRosa
She said that, like when she confirmed that you probably saw a demonic. I, I, it just, I don't know. It sits well with me. Like, I think.
Peter Tilden
Yeah, because angels really come in a way that their, their presence, their essence is so radiating. Yeah. But then they're also. You can also have encounters with demonic spirits. That's also very, I've had, I've, I could tell too many stories.
Charlemagne tha God
Is it a mission that you feel like from seeing that and from having those conversations, do you feel like you were sent on a mission to do something and do you know what that mission is?
Peter Tilden
If so, I think not even. I think everyone has their angels assigned to everyone on this earth. Like, life is not just physical. It is, it's actually more spiritual than physical. I think the difference is that there are times that you know, based on how God is working with someone, that he might open your eyes to see things at a younger age. And if you're not scared of it, if you don't run from it, and even if you do, you can always come back to the place where you're like God. Maybe I was scared, but show me again. And I believe that part of my calling, even on earth, it's really to awaken people to the supernatural because it governs everything that we do in the natural realm.
Lauren LaRosa
I was going to say, like, for you it was a lot more clear. But like, I've had like, not encounters where I saw something, but where things have happened. I'm like, that's nothing but God. And I'd be like, God, do it again. So I know that this is like a thing and then he'll do it again. So I myself, I'm always like, no, my faith is strong because he's talked to me.
Peter Tilden
Right. He's shown that.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah, but it took a couple times. Some people think they're hearing things, but it might not be clear that it's God to them. How do you coach people through being able to let that voice break through and understanding it is God.
Peter Tilden
Yeah. I think one of the key things is found. There's the foundational element of it. Right. You don't need to read a Bible for God to speak to you, but you need to have an understanding of his voice in the Bible so that you're not deceived by the voices you hear. And so when you have a good foundation of knowing the voice of God, even in his Word, then when you begin to hear him or you see things in the book. One of the things I talk about, even before I get into the subject of dreams, are the different ways we experience God's voice to.
DJ Envy
The four primary ways.
Peter Tilden
Yeah, the four primary ways. So there are some people who. They're feelers, right. They can, you know, God has emotions. The Bible talks about so many types of emotions. Peace, you know, love, anger, all these things. So there are people that you might walk into a room, there's a deal on the table for you, everything checks off, but then you don't. You're not at peace with it. Something is, like, messing up with you. Like, I don't think this is for me. The problem is that if we don't have a God consciousness about life, we think it's us feeling that way. But the Lord is trying to share his emotions with you. Like, hey, I'm not in that. You know, it might look good on paper, but I'm not in that. So those are people that feel. There are people that know. There's some people that just have an instinctive knowing. And for many, that is more heightened when you're a kid. Like, you will meet a child and you're like, what do you want to be? You know, sometimes they just say random stuff. But there are kids that just know what they want to be. And it has nothing connected to their parents. Like, their family members were never in that field of work. But they see something, they're exposed to something, and they just have a knowing. Wait, I'm supposed to be in this field. I'm supposed to do this. I'm supposed to be an actress. And it's just this instinctive knowing because there's a. There's a beauty with being a child. There's not. Your intelligence is not in the way. The older we get, our wisdom blocks us from discerning the voice of God because we're trying to, you know, outthink it, which we're. We're overthinking it rather, like, where did this Come from? Where did that come from? And then there's the hearers. There are people who, you know audibly. It's more rare to hear the voice of God audibly now, but you can also. He also speaks in the form of thoughts. So there are these distinctive thoughts or series of thoughts that you would really like here in your head. And it has nothing to do with how you would naturally think, how you would naturally like, you know, think about a matter. The same way that anxiety has a voice, you know, pain has a voice. The. The Lord also speaks to you through your thoughts. And then they're seers. And that's where dreams come in. Right. There are people where you're dreaming. You see visions. There's something called open visions where you might even be. You feel as though you were somewhere and then you're back in your body, you know. But all these things are ways that we can experience the voice of God. But the foundation is if you don't know how he speaks in the Bible, then you can easily get deceived.
DJ Envy
So feeling, knowing, hearing, seeing and seeing. Yes.
Charlemagne tha God
So how do you break down some of those. Those dreams?
Jason Alexander
Right.
Charlemagne tha God
Because you talk about the power of your dreams. I'm sure probably the biggest dream that people have, I'm sure, is somebody falling.
Peter Tilden
Yeah.
Charlemagne tha God
And so what does that mean when somebody is falling or when you. When people feel like they see somebody coming in from their past life.
Peter Tilden
When you say past life, like a loved one who passed away.
Charlemagne tha God
Um, yeah, like a loved one that passed away. You know what? For me, it's. I remember when my wife's father passed away. Right. And it was the weirdest thing. We had balloons downstairs.
Peter Tilden
Yeah.
Charlemagne tha God
And it was her birthday. And my wife, out of nowhere, just started thinking about her dad. And I don't know if this was whatever it was, but out of Nowhere, like midnight 1am the balloons that were in the kitchen actually blew up the stairs and came into the bedroom.
Peter Tilden
Wow.
Charlemagne tha God
And it freaked me. The out freaked me the out.
Lauren LaRosa
I can't believe that house.
DJ Envy
They helium balloons?
Charlemagne tha God
Yeah, they were helium balloons.
Peter Tilden
Yeah.
Charlemagne tha God
Of course they would rise and you would think they let me finish. But to go up the stairs and.
Lauren LaRosa
Discount his experience with God speaks to be too.
Charlemagne tha God
But it could have went to any one of the bedrooms in the house. It could have went to.
Peter Tilden
It went right to the bedroom. You know what?
Charlemagne tha God
See, this is why I don't like talking to him.
Peter Tilden
That's why you talking. If an alien shot him in the foot.
DJ Envy
Exactly. No, I believe. I believe that was. I believe that was your. I believe that was a sign. I believe that was him. I really do. I'm not doing. It just sounded.
Peter Tilden
Was it helium? Yes. No.
Charlemagne tha God
But it was out of. Out of my house, out of anywhere those balloons could have went. And the fact that she was talking about her dad and crying over him several hours earlier just made me feel like, damn, there are signs and there are angels. So what. How do you, you know, I guess break down different dreams? And what do the different dreams mean?
Peter Tilden
Yeah, so in the book, I talk about just different types of dreams because the key thing, even before you get into that, is to know why we dream, right? God. I mean, and dreams can come from different places. A dream can come from you, A dream can come from God. A dream can come from, you know, the enemy. But when it comes from God, God has a desire to. Has a desire to speak to us more than we even desire to hear from him. Because regardless of where we find ourselves in life, regardless of how successful we perceive ourselves to be, regardless of all the things we have going on, we were. We are first his creation. And there's something there. Your life is not random. He desires to do life with you. He desires to partner with you. And so there are types of dreams, like, especially when people see their loved ones who had passed on, those could be encouragement dreams. Now, how the dream is presented matters because when someone passes away, they are. They lose consciousness of the physical realm. But that does not mean that who they are, their essence is gone, Right? They're transitioning to a different life. You know, whether that's with the Lord or, you know, the opposite. Nobody wants that. But. But they're transitioning now to, like an eternal life, you know, in the spiritual realm. But they don't technically have. You can see them in dreams. And most people would have, you know, these dreams where they don't speak, they just appear, they just show themselves. Right? Because those realms are now, they're different realms, right? So you might see them in a dream. And the purpose of that dream is just the Lord trying to bring comfort to you and encourage you that, yes, you don't have your loved one with you, but they're not fully absent. They're not fully just gone. You know who they are, the core of who they are, that their spirit man is still with him.
Charlemagne tha God
What about the opposite side of that scale? The dream where you dream that you die?
Peter Tilden
That is a dream that now that could be warning dreams. So we had. This was President. This was President Lincoln, I believe, so he had a dream Right before he was assassinated, he literally had a warning dream. And in the dream, he's walking, you know, through the White House and he hears people mourning and he's like, hey, what's going on? And somebody tells him in the dream the President has been assassinated. And he's like, wait, what? And he's literally watching them mourn him. And his, like, almost like a funeral service, he wakes up. The problem is he has that type of dream. So it's recorded that he told people close to him the dream. But then if no one understands, like, hey, regardless of who you are, God is still trying to get a message to you. If he understood the weight of the dream, he would have canceled every activity that was coming up. But he kept his schedule as normal. And few days after that, he was assassinated.
DJ Envy
But doesn't that, doesn't that. I guess the right word is negate. Doesn't that negate your faith in God? If you do that, like, if you, somebody, if you have a dream that something bad is going to happen to you and then you just automatically cancel everything. It's like, where does God come into play?
Peter Tilden
So here's the thing. You know, we have this thing where we say, like, you know, is God in control of life and all these things? Yes. But the Bible says the earth has he given to man. Now what that means is that. Let me even go back, go back a little bit. Even Jesus, right before Jesus could do what he was purposed to do on earth, he had to come through a human vessel in order to execute it. Now this is God. God is eternal. God is all powerful. He could have just spoken and rewritten history. But be. But in order for us to be redeemed, Jesus had to come through the flesh. Why? Because the flesh gives you legal rights to do things on earth. So when we look at God, there's a reason why God desires to partner with us. It's just like even the reason we pray, you know, why would Jesus tell us when you pray, not if you pray? The reason we pray is because we're saying, hey, God, I'm in agreement with what you're doing and you can do it through me. The Bible also talks about that before God reveals. Before God does anything, he reveals it. The Bible says to his servants, the prophets. It's not even about people being prophets per se, but that there is this prophetic stream that someone needs to be aware of what God wants to do so that they can partner with him in prayer. And so when God reveals something to you in a dream, God doesn't speak to gossip or just to be like, hey, heads up. He speaks so that there is partnership. There is something that needs to be canceled. There is something that needs to change. I'll give you an example. I had a dream one day, and in the dream, I saw a calendar. And on the calendar, there was a particular date circled in red. And then in the dream, I hear, pray for your brother concerning that day. So I wake up from the dream. My brother's in Chicago. He flips properties in Chicago. And I tell him, I was like, hey, on this day, be really careful about your movements, right? And so I just start praying. And I just start praying for God's protection over him. I'm like, whatever has been assigned to his life, because I literally saw death. And I'm like, whatever is trying to, you know, take him before his time, God, just cancel it in prayer. That day comes, my brother is going to his property, just a regular checkup, and a car starts following him. He didn't notice it at first. And then he makes a turn. He's like, wait, let me just make sure. He makes a random turn. They turn. Makes a left turn. They turn left. He makes another right turn. They turn right. And then he looks and he's like, oh, they're probably trying to, like, steal from him. And this is Chicago. Chicago, even. They might want to steal bread from you and shoot you, you know? So now he's like. He just comes to a place where he's like, okay, like, God, give me wisdom on how to navigate this. And he mentioned, like, he didn't even know. Something just took over and almost, like, telling him how to. How to drive, right? And then he loses them. So he calls me right after. He was like, yo, the craziest thing happened today. And I told him, I said, bro, what's today? And I'm like, go back to. Go back to the message I sent you. I'm like, what's today? And he looks. It was that day that God literally showed me in the dream, circled in red. So how I partner with God was to say, God, your purpose is that nothing happens to my brother. But someone on earth needs to come in agreement with that, because there's something. Because even when you look at terrorist shootings and all these things, it goes beyond a person, you know, a mental health issue. You have someone who is influenced by a spirit to do that. And so that day, why God gave a warning ahead of time is because there is something that is beyond people just trying to steal from him. There is a spirit that has influenced those people because of an agenda that was not of God. And so that is why prayer is important. When you see a dream and you see yourself dying or you see a family member dying, doing nothing is coming in agreement with that narrative. And pray against it, pray against it. And with Jesus, it's so simple. It's not even like you got to do all this hoopla. It's literally coming in agreement to say, you know what, Lord, I'm speaking life into this person's life. No harm will come before them. And so that shows us the supernatural powers of God, that even when we feel like we got it all together, he's like, no, if I partner with you, we could. You could. You would really get this life right. The reason why 1. When another common dream is when people see themselves in school or in a classroom and they're trying to take a test, and they keep failing the test because God is trying to tell them, hey, there's a different season of life you're supposed to be stepping into. And you're, you're, you're, you're not. You're. You're missing it, right? You're still in an old season, and you're still stuck there. And so he's trying to show people, like, there's more I have for you, but because you're not seeing it right, you're so comfortable where you are that you're missing the test to get you to the next place.
Charlemagne tha God
Talk about if you. If you feel comfortable about the time you went to the doctor and God told you something different than what your doctor told you.
Peter Tilden
Oh, that. That happened to me, you know, so when I was pregnant, I have a. I have a daughter. When I was pregnant with my daughter, I started experiencing, like, a lot of pain. And, you know, we go. Rush to go to the. Go to the. We are obgyn, rather, and he's, like, trying to, you know, even confirm the pregnancy. And he's like, man, I don't see a pregnancy here. I just see some things that does not look good. Like, you need to go to the er. So we rush to the er. They tell me that I have, like, these fibroids that have gone, you know, gotten really big because of the pregnancy and the blood flow going, like, to the womb. So they, you know, we share the results with the doctor. And he literally calls me. He was like, because of the size of these fibroids, because of the location of these fibroids, you need to terminate the pregnancy, and you need to terminate this because from his analysis, the baby won't have room to grow. And the fibroids could cause. And even if, you know, we take the baby to term, the bleeding is going to be too excessive. And he was like. And he called back to back, he was like, I'm telling you, you need to terminate this and try again. Terminate it. Let's take the fibroids out and try again. Now before that, how I even knew I was pregnant. Now from 9, I started seeing angels and all of all those things. So right before I found out I was pregnant, I was in my closet, I was getting ready for something and this angel appears in my closet and doesn't speak. They don't speak like how we're talking. It's almost like spirit to spirit. And I just had this knowing that I'm pregnant. And I was like. And I run downstairs to my husband, I was like, babe, I think we're pregnant. So when the doctor is telling me this, and then I used to see my daughter in dreams a lot. And I'm like, God, you will not go through all of this just so that I have to terminate this pregnancy. But I also believe that there's some things we experience in life that reminds us that we are not doing life by our own intelligence because that's to be self dependent. But I'm doing life with God. So there are things I'm going to experience in life that only God can see me through it. And he designed it to be that way. And so I remember like, I'm still in a lot of pain and I just like I'm praying and calling out to God. And that night I have a dream and the Lord comes to me and says there are two key things. He says, no harm is going to come to your child. And he hands me a Bible. And when I woke up, I knew that the Bible was represented. Stand on my word. So then I started opening scriptures. I spoke about healing and I'm like, okay God, no harm will come to her. And this is what your word says about healing. And so I got another OB GYN because I'm like, God has shown me like no harm is going to come to this child. And the other ob gyn, she was like, you know, I'm going to be optimistic, but I'm going to tell you there is a scare and a concern. So we need to get a specialist doctor, you know, involved and we need to watch this carefully. All of a sudden everything that was a concern started being reversed. So initially they're like, we don't know if you're going to have room for this baby to grow. Doctor is like, oh, you got room for two. You know, there were things about the. What, the location of the fibroids. The fibroids started moving on their own. They started calling my daughter a soccer player. They're like, she's just kicking them up and down. Everything that they said, God turned it around, you know. But the key thing is getting that word from God. And I believe that's why in the busyness of our lives, God still finds that place when we're sleeping to speak to us and show us. Like, I know everything in your world is telling you this is not going to work, but I'm showing you that I'm with you.
DJ Envy
You talk about, in the book about how the Bible, the Bible and science talk about the benefits of good, getting good sleep. What, what, what? Break that down. I never heard that from the Bible perspective.
Peter Tilden
Yeah, because biblically, you know, we are body, soul and spirit. And I think so many times even in like Christianity, we only focus on like, you know, the things we got to do, like the spirit realm, the soul realm. But there is a, like your body. And in order for. You have to be a good steward over your body, you know, you have to. There are things that even as believers is just as important and eat, eating well, just as important as working out. Because the body is the vehicle, is the thing that carries your spirit is the thing that embodies your soul. So if your body's not healthy, that's not good stewardship, you know, so when you're able to get proper rest and it's. There's such a connection between, you know, science and even, you know, our spirituality because from a scientific standpoint, when you don't have enough rest, you have brain fog that, that affects your ability to even remember your dreams. Because when you wake up and you come out of this place where you had an encounter or X, Y and Z, your body needs to be healthy enough to process what was just deposited. And so if you're not getting enough rest is very similar to know a computer. Like if you only allow your computer to die every single time, it causes memory loss over time. Same thing if you only go to bed when you feel like, shut down, like you're ex. Completely exhausted and you just crash. It's harder for you to remember your dreams because that also affects memory loss, you know, when you're waking up from those moments. And so being a good steward is looking at every part. Even the Bible talks about you know, when the Lord, this talks about you prospering, you know, in all things, right? Not just in your spirit, but in your soul, in your body. So there's a scripture that talks about bring your whole body, your whole soul and your whole spirit blameless before God, so he's after everything that be a good steward because it all connects.
Lauren LaRosa
There's a part of your book where you talk about part two, like the, I guess it's part three of part, I mean part four of part two. The source of your dreams. Are there bad sources of dreams where it's like it, this dream comes from this. You should not try interpret it and leave it there.
Peter Tilden
No, absolutely. And the key thing, sometimes you may not even know exactly where the dream came from because there's some things that people call nightmares and they're really warning dreams. So when you. That's why like I go, I have this whole process of like, you know, step by step when it comes to interpreting. And there's a part where by that time you, you might be able to discern like did this come from God? Did this come from the enemy? But in the beginning I always tell people right in every dream down because on surface level you may never see it right until you get into the weeds of it. But a dream can literally.
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Peter Tilden
Come from. Satan. And how that happens is based on what you agree with. You know, the Bible talks about how can two people walk together except they be agreed. And we don't find out. We don't. We don't recognize the times where we are opening ourselves up to agreement with things that come from a demonic realm. And what that looks like is some horror movies. Even in the industry, they will tell you there are directors that will Literally tell you that when they were writing the script, there were real spells, real, you know, real spells in witchcraft used in this script. And so when you're watching the movie before going to bed or in the afternoon, you're opening yourself up to something that is beyond entertainment. And then when you go to bed now, you start having some weird dreams and you're like, wait, where did this come from? Like, what is going on here? Because there was an access given to that. You know, it's the same reason why someone would just start having, like, there are these weird scenarios. Like, even when you think of, you know, families, for example, like when people want to question, you know, things with the demonic realm, when you see some weird patterns in families, you know, every man at this age, something happened to them. The moment they hit 30, this happened to him the moment they hit 40, this happened to them all the way back to their great great grandfather. But that shows you demonic influence. And how it happens for us is that there are all kinds of things, whether it's in media, it's in, you know, the things that we're consuming, reading, watching, listening to. And we don't see that we're opening ourselves up. And then the enemy starts showing us things in dreams that we're like, wait, how? Like, where is this coming from?
DJ Envy
You know, what about deja vu?
Peter Tilden
Oh, deja vu, I think, has been so misinterpreted. You know, when people think deja vu, they make it seem, like, spooky, and it's really not. You know, you're dealing with a God who knew your end from your beginning. And there are times most people have deja vu doing the most random things.
Lauren LaRosa
Yes.
Peter Tilden
It's like you're shopping and then you're like. Comes over you.
Lauren LaRosa
Like, I've been here.
Peter Tilden
Like, what is happening and what God is communicating to that person oftentimes is your life may feel mundane, your life may feel boring. You may feel like there's nothing going on. For me, but this place in your life, I wrote it even before you were born, I knew this moment in your life. And it's a. It's an encouragement to people to know that even though it just feels like nothing is really happening, or I don't feel like I'm. I'm where I'm supposed to be, God is showing you, but this moment of your life is known by me. You're on track. You're in the right place at the right time.
DJ Envy
That's what somebody told me a long time ago. Now, the power of dreams Is fascinating because I do believe that it's just. It's God speaking to us. I think it's glimpses into other. Other dimensions. Like, I've. I've never had somebody that I was close to pass, and they haven't visited me in a dream at least. At least once. And some of them are more clear than others. Right. Like, my grandmother came to me and told me she saw my niece when my niece was born. Right. Or my. My homegirl, Michelle came to me and told me, thank you for something. Right? But my homegirl, Jaz came to me in a dream. I went chasing after her. She didn't want to be bothered. That's the only one out of all of them that confused me.
Peter Tilden
That's a good thing.
DJ Envy
She literally didn't want me bothered. She was like, leave me alone.
Peter Tilden
No, but that's a great thing because again, when dreams with people that have passed on, the things that you should be worried about, if you see in the dream is if they're leading you somewhere, if you're chasing them and they're kind of telling you, come on. If they're driving a car and you're in the car, those are scary. You should pray about that. So you chasing her and she's like, leave me alone. Is so that. Because where she's going, you should not be there because you still have an assignment on this earth. So you chasing her is almost like you're trying to like, hey, let me go with you. And she's like, no, no, no, no. So it's not even about her not wanting to be bothered. It's the spirit behind that. Like, yo, you should not be where I'm at right now. So I. I think it'll be interesting if you think back on where you were in that time of life headspace. Because that could even speak to you about why you saw that in your dream.
DJ Envy
What about car accidents?
Peter Tilden
Car accidents is something to really, like, pray for. Just for direction in your life.
DJ Envy
If you're a passenger, you know, I wasn't driving, but it was a car.
Peter Tilden
Oh, you were a passenger. Who then? Like, it depends. You were in a bus?
DJ Envy
Yeah.
Peter Tilden
Okay, explain the dream. Let's do a dissection.
DJ Envy
I was. I was just in a bus, and I don't remember. For some reason, I feel like I remember the person being intoxicated that was driving the bus. I don't know why that was a thing.
Peter Tilden
Yeah.
DJ Envy
And I was on a bus. And then the bus went. It started driving, then it started to, like, fishtail, and then it flipped over.
Peter Tilden
Yeah. So when you're looking like a bus, when it's a car, it's very oftentimes it's more personal, right. When you're looking at a bus and you're looking at a corporate setting, and then the person who is in leading, driving the bus is not even in their right mind. So they're intoxicated. So that could speak to several things. One, it could speak to something that you are a part of, that it's like it could be a corporation, it could be something that you're connected to, something that has a corporate setting to it. But the person who is in charge, whether it's the CEO, whether it's, you know, whoever is making the decisions, calling the shots. Because everything, anything that everything in life has movement, right? So even the things you're part of in the natural, it could just seem like you're part of a company or you're doing X, Y and Z. But all of this is speaking to movement in your life. And so on one hand, that could be the Lord showing you, like, hey, this thing you're a part of, the person who is the head is not the person that should be leading this. And if you are connected to this, when they crash, you all are going to be affected, right? So that's one side, another side of it could also be. And it's just to see where you are in life, what, what is really speaking to you more, right? So you, then you examine your life like, hey, what am I part of? What company am I a part of? What business am I involved in? And who is, who is the head? Because whenever this crashes, I'm going to be involved. Or if you're in a space in your life, because then it's entertainment. And there was something you, maybe you were going out in a few weeks and there was a party bus. And that could just be a sign where the Lord's like, hey, don't be a part of that. So when you also look at what's taking place in your waking life, it helps you also discern, like, what God could be speaking to. This.
Lauren LaRosa
Like, the conversation with you about dreams in the, in the book feels like how people go and get like, can you read my palm? And can you. But it's. I know it's different. And growing up in a church, my grandma, she don't play that. Like, we're not allowed to do that type of stuff. But then pastors will prophesize to you why, what is. Why can we do one thing but not the Other.
Peter Tilden
That's a great question. So when you look at the spiritual realm, just like in life, right, there's good, there's evil, the spiritual realm, there's good, there's evil. So you know, when you are doing things from an evil is really just a counterfeit of that good. So from a Christian perspective, you know, Jesus, God speaks to us, right? And even like prophecy, prophecy again is that it's not even like this weird thing is literally just accessing the mind of God concerning a person. So it's just like if you're praying, let's say you're praying for envy, right? And you're like God, what are your thoughts about envy? And then all of a sudden, and we all have access to this when you have the Holy Spirit because there's so many things God wants to show you about people. And so it's just like God, what are your thoughts about envy? And then the Holy Spirit might start showing you things about him baby oil envy. That is not your portion. Charlie, get it together.
DJ Envy
This is what I pray. I pray this what God shows me.
Peter Tilden
This is not. No, no, you got to, you also.
Charlemagne tha God
Got to figure out like when somebody's being evil or they joking like cuz she pray for her eyelashes, right? And it's to the point where it's like just joke too much. There's no baby oil with me.
Peter Tilden
Continue on, we being serious, none of that too much. What's wrong with you? What's wrong with you? But that not.
Lauren LaRosa
You almost knocked out the poop.
Peter Tilden
But the beauty is it's coming from God, right? And what comes from him, it's for your good. This is, and first of all, it is the source that you can trust, right? Because it's the source that created you. It's the source that knows your life. It is the source that is for you. When you go to someone reading your palms, a tarot card reader, a psychic, the source is demonic. Now I grew, I grew up in Nigeria and we've seen it all. I've seen it even in, from, from even some family members, right, who are not on the other side. But the source of that is very demonic and, and the goal. So for example, someone goes to a psychic, the psychic can tell you everything about your life that has been is known. What your grandmother wore when she, you know, she got married. It's a known information in the spiritual realm. So yes, God can reveal that to someone, but the enemy can also reveal that to someone as well. The enemy can tell someone where you live, your address, how Many kids, you have what you were doing yesterday because it's past information, it's past knowledge. It's known now when you don't know. That's why the Bible even says, you shall know them by their fruits, not by what they tell you, not by the fact that they have knowledge about you. Because many people can have knowledge about you, but the source of it can either be demonic or it can be God.
Lauren LaRosa
Right.
Peter Tilden
But the motive is where it changes. So when you're receiving a message that's coming from God, the motive is for your growth. Right. Jesus would say that I have come to give you life and life more abundantly. But then when it comes to Satan, he has come to steal, kill and destroy. So the psychic comes, you go, someone goes to a psychic. The psychic tells them what their grandfather wore when they died. They start crying. Now they're open. They're like, oh, my gosh, how did you know? And the psychic just keeps going, keeps going, buys their trust. And the motive is to curse you. It may not happen that day, but it happens over time. Then from there, the psychic would say, oh, you're going to have three marriages. But what did they just do? They cursed your first marriage. So they just spoke to you that you'll get married the first time, but it's not going to work out. You get married the second time, it's not going to work out, and then you're going to get married the third time. So they just. And you're in agreement with it, you're eating it up. So you literally opened yourself up for them to curse you. So it takes. They want to get you in and then. But the spirit behind it, Satan, cannot, can only take you where he's going. He cannot give you anything else, so he can tell you all these nice things you want to hear. But after they buy your trust, then they start telling you things that now you're scared, you're like, oh, my gosh. You're like, no, but X, Y and Z. But what they're doing, the, the, the motive of that is to get you off track. Yeah. It's so that you don't know where you're supposed. Like you're not walking in the path that God has for you. And that's the difference question.
Charlemagne tha God
You know, when people do pray, is some of the prayers frivolous? Like, for instance, like if somebody prays for their team, right? Not pray to be healthy or to be safe during the game, or pray their team wins, or Lauren prays for a man, or Charlemagne, prays to be a little taller.
DJ Envy
I never pray for that ever.
Charlemagne tha God
Like, how do those type of prayers work when it comes to it? Is it one of those things where. Write it off or is it one of those things to honestly, to pray for things that, like, I pray that the Giants win next week. That's not a real prayer, or is it.
Peter Tilden
No, I think wherever. God is so kind, you know, just like when you have a kid, when a child is a baby, you know, they want to get into all kinds of things. You don't get mad about that. There's some things they want to get into. If it doesn't really hurt them. You even help them. Like, here, let me lift you up so you can paint the wall. You know, as you get older, you naturally grow to a place where you're like, I don't want to paint the couch. Let me paint on the paper. Right. The same thing in our walk with God. When you come to know the Lord in the beginning, those beginning stages of growing and getting to know him, there are random things you can ask for. And sometimes he would just randomly do them, you know, and there's some things, Lauren, you know, like, oh, my God.
Lauren LaRosa
I'm not worried about these people at all.
Peter Tilden
But it's like, God is just so kind in that way now. Doesn't mean that just because you're like, man, I pray the Giants win. And guys, okay, the Giants are going to win. But as you grow in God, you start to understand that, you know, the power of prayer is when you pray in alignment with his will, but you have to first know his will. So that takes maturity. Right. But when you're still in that, like, you know, stage of being like a baby, there are random things you could ask. And sometimes he will do some random things just to show you he hears you and he loves you.
DJ Envy
How can they follow you, Stephanie?
Charlemagne tha God
Well, first I got to pick up the book.
DJ Envy
Yes, I'm getting to that. But I want to know how they can follow.
Peter Tilden
Yeah.
Lauren LaRosa
It's so crazy you being here. I used to watch you preach in.
Peter Tilden
Person when I was in la. I love that. No, I'm on Instagram. Stephanie Ek Ike. And then I have a YouTube channel. Stephanie Ek Okafor. Yeah. Tick tock. Stephanie Kokafor. Yeah.
DJ Envy
You preach at Torah and Sarah Church.
Peter Tilden
Yeah.
DJ Envy
Okay. Okay. Okay.
Peter Tilden
Yep.
DJ Envy
What's the name of that church? One church.
Charlemagne tha God
The name of the book and where people could get it.
Peter Tilden
The power of your dreams. And it's available everywhere. Books. So then it has a Spanish edition coming out In November, A guide to.
DJ Envy
Hearing and understanding how God speaks. While you sleep.
Peter Tilden
While you sleep.
Charlemagne tha God
All right, well, before we get about here, let's close on a prayer.
Peter Tilden
Yes, yes, yes. And even before we close, I just want to share a few things, because every time I come to a place, I'm always asking the Lord just to show me, like, what he's showing about not just the people that will listen to this, but the people that are on here. And very quickly, Charlemagne, even when you share that story about what you saw as a teenager, there is a protection that has always been around your life. And. And this is a general. Everybody has got protecting them. But what I'm saying is that what God showed me concerning you is when you think about some of the things that you got yourself involved in, you should not by any right, be where you are today. And there is a covering. There are things that God has saved you from. There are things that God has protected you from. When you think of your physical life and also your image. And it's. Because there is a. There is something very unique. There's a very unique assignment to your life that has to be fulfilled. And I believe that it's. It's not things that you. The way he showed me. It's almost as though, because you're a very smart man, you might see it, and you. You'll question yourself out of it. And it would be your kids that will tell you what it is. And to not discount their voices when they tell you, like, hey, dad, you. I think you're supposed to do, da, da, da, da, da. But it's literally the voice of God to you, because there's something that God has been preserving you for that you must do on this earth. And what he showed me is that the confirmation of what that is. You wouldn't. You know it, but you reject it. But your kids will be the one that will tell you that very thing. And when they do, and maybe they have walk in that path because there is. You're going to see so much favor beyond what you've ever known. And I receive it. Amen. And even when I was praying, first of all, I love you know how you've been on the show. Thank you. And there's just such. Like this journalist and maybe you. I don't know if you are. Yeah, okay. Beautiful. Because I'm like, oh, my gosh. Like, how she thinks, how she speaks.
Lauren LaRosa
When I was in la, I was. I was at tmz. That's tmz. But y'all used to Help me. Cuz my. My weeks would be rough.
Peter Tilden
Amazing.
Lauren LaRosa
And I would come in there and you would be on. You were always so happy.
Peter Tilden
Oh, thank you. But even what I saw concerning you was how like, God is going to bring you in. There are rooms, whether it's like the Breakfast Club and different things, but there are rooms that God is going to bring you in. And there is such a light about you. You are more grounded in the Word than people know you to be. But the reason that God is opening doors for you is because of the Word that he's put in you. And so it goes beyond what's on your resume, goes beyond what you have experienced, and it goes beyond the people that you know. But that to not. To not shy away from speaking His Word. To not shy away. There are moments I just kept seeing how the Holy Spirit would even give you words about people. Like you'll be around them and there's something you're sensing, but it's like, should I say it? Should I not say it? And he's like, no. But that's why I brought you in the room so that you can say what I put in your heart. It's beyond me just adding something else to your resume. It's because I need your. There's an influence that sometimes we would have because of the word. God wants to get out there. And I remember even as I was, God showed me this. Um, not you, if anyone who knows the story, I'm not talking about you in the way of Pharaoh, but it was literally like Pharaoh in the times of Egypt, where there was going to be a famine. And the person God brought the word to was not Joseph, the person who was like walking with the Lord, but it was Pharaoh because he had influence over nations. He had influence to execute the plan of God. And then Joseph was able to interpret the dream that helped him to do that. But when he showed me this, it was in the sense where God will bring you to places because you have influence in the room, you have influence with people, but it's because of what he wants you to execute with your voice. So to not shy away from that. And then finally DJ envy with you. It was so beautiful because the first thing I saw was God's love. And it was almost this thing where you not. It's like you had this wall, right? And it's like you used to protecting yourself. You're used to kind of like keeping people out so you can control the narrative. But as you're doing that, you're also keeping yourself out of the reckless love of God and how he wants to show up for you. And what I kept seeing was, yes, you have questions. Yes, there are things, because I saw it almost like, where, you know, even when it comes to faith, like, one of the things is, like, you know, but if this person who didn't know you dies, like, what happens to them? You know, where you have all these questions that are intelligent and smart questions, but to really step into the why behind it requires surrender. And what I just kept showing, what God kept showing me was you come into a deeper place of surrender in your life, and it is going to open. It literally felt like a dam bursting out. What he wants to do, because there are many things he wants to bring you into that you don't even know about yourself yet, but that if you have this wall, then it's not just keeping people out, it's keeping his voice out, it's keeping his word out. But I just saw, like, this love of God that is chasing after you. And it was almost like someone just like, hey, let me in. I'm right here. And regardless of the things you've experienced in life, there are answers that is almost like they're questions he's not afraid to answer. But you have to. There's a will, there's a surrender that needs to take place first.
Charlemagne tha God
But thank you.
Peter Tilden
Amen.
Charlemagne tha God
Let's pray before we get up out of here.
Peter Tilden
Yes, yes, yes. Heavenly Father, we thank you for just everything you've done in this moment. Lord God, we thank you even in talking about this book, because it's really not about just getting a book out, but it's really about getting people to be awakened to knowing that you speak and you desire to speak to them, whether they're awake or whether they're asleep. But even the power of their dreams. Many people are ignoring their dreams in this time. And there are words you're trying to alert them about. There are warnings you want to make them aware of. There are ways you want to prepare them. There are ways you want to encourage them. And so, Lord, I just pray that you will continue to be glorified in, in and through everything that we do. We love you, Lord. We thank you in Jesus name. Amen.
DJ Envy
Amen.
Charlemagne tha God
Well, thank you very much. Thank you, Mr. Stephanie E.K.
Peter Tilden
Okafor. Yes. Come on.
Charlemagne tha God
It's the Breakfast Club. Come on.
Peter Tilden
Thank you.
DJ Envy
Wake that ass up early in the morning.
Peter Tilden
The Breakfast Club.
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Podcast Summary: The Breakfast Club with DJ Envy and Charlamagne Tha God
Episode: Best Of Full Interview: Stephanie Ike Okafor Talks 'The Power Of Your Dreams,' Encountering God, Morality, Deja Vu +More
Release Date: January 2, 2025
In this compelling episode of The Breakfast Club, hosts DJ Envy and Charlamagne Tha God engage in an in-depth conversation with Pastor Stephanie E.K. Okafor. The discussion delves into the profound themes of dreams, divine encounters, morality, and the phenomenon of deja vu, offering listeners insightful perspectives on the interplay between spirituality and daily life.
Pastor Stephanie shares a transformative experience from her childhood that fundamentally shaped her spiritual journey.
Encounter Details ([01:00]):
"I encountered God when I was nine years old... He would speak to me through dreams."
Emotional Impact ([01:43]): Stephanie recounts the emotional turmoil stemming from her father's tragic death and how her encounter with the Holy Spirit provided solace and direction.
Visual Description ([05:41]):
"He had a human form, but the only difference was his whole makeup was light... everything about him was radiating light."
This early experience instilled in her a deep connection to the divine, emphasizing the importance of understanding dreams as holistic messages rather than fragmented symbols.
Stephanie elucidates the significance of dreams in spiritual communication, advocating for a comprehensive interpretation approach.
Whole Dreams vs. Symbolic Analysis ([01:09]):
"Pick it apart, and you may not understand the fullness of it... the whole dream is telling a message."
Consistent Divine Communication ([02:16]): Dreams have been a consistent medium through which God communicates with her, reinforcing her faith and guiding her actions.
Practical Application ([12:58]): Stephanie discusses practical steps for interpreting dreams, stressing the necessity of discerning the source to avoid deception.
Stephanie outlines the four primary ways individuals can experience God's voice:
Feelers: Emotional resonance with God's emotions.
"[...] peace, love, anger... the Lord is trying to share his emotions with you."
Knowers: Instinctive knowing or gut feelings about life's directions.
"You will meet a child and they're like, 'what do you want to be?'... they just know."
Hearers: Audibly hearing God's voice or receiving distinctive thoughts.
"He speaks in the form of thoughts... not how you naturally think."
Seers: Visual experiences or visions in dreams.
"Dreaming... seeing visions... feeling as though you were somewhere else."
Stephanie provides frameworks for understanding different types of dreams and their implications.
Encouragement Dreams ([14:42]): Dreams featuring deceased loved ones serve as comfort and reassurance of their continued existence in the spiritual realm.
Warning Dreams ([14:46]): Dreams about death or impending disasters act as divine warnings to prompt prayer and protective actions.
"President Lincoln had a warning dream before his assassination... few days after."
Personal Story of Intervention ([20:38] – [24:10]): Stephanie shares a personal narrative where a dream led her to seek a second medical opinion, resulting in a positive outcome against medical advice.
"I pray that nothing happens to my child... the fibroids started moving on their own."
Stephanie bridges biblical teachings with scientific understanding to highlight the importance of good sleep.
Biblical Stewardship ([24:19]): Emphasizes caring for the body as a vessel for the soul and spirit.
"We are body, soul, and spirit... being a good steward over your body... interconnects with spiritual health."
Scientific Correlation ([24:19]): Adequate sleep enhances memory and dream recall, enabling better interpretation of divine messages.
"When you don't have enough rest, it affects your ability to remember your dreams... similar to memory loss in computers."
Stephanie addresses the origins of dreams, distinguishing between those inspired by God and those from malevolent sources.
Good Dreams ([26:28]): Originating from God, intended for personal growth, guidance, and alignment with divine will.
Bad Dreams ([26:28]): Sourced from demonic influences or deceptive mediums like psychics, aimed at misleading or cursing individuals.
Avoiding Deceptive Practices ([37:31] – [39:17]): Encourages avoiding practices like palm reading or tarot, which can open individuals to negative spiritual influences.
"God can reveal that to someone, but the enemy can also reveal that to someone... motives differ."
Stephanie highlights the significance of aligning prayers with God's will and the maturation of faith.
Childlike Prayers vs. Mature Prayers ([42:02]): In early stages of faith, prayers might be spontaneous and varied, but as one matures, prayers become more aligned with divine purpose.
"When you grow in God, you start to understand that... the power of prayer is when you pray in alignment with his will."
Praying with Purpose ([41:16] – [42:34]): Encourages praying for meaningful and purposeful intentions rather than frivolous requests, fostering deeper spiritual connections.
Stephanie provides information on how listeners can engage further with her teachings and writings.
Social Media and Online Presence:
"I'm on Instagram as Stephanie Ek Ike, YouTube channel as Stephanie Ek Okafor, and TikTok as Stephanie Kokafor."
Book Availability:
"The Power of Your Dreams is available everywhere, with a Spanish edition releasing in November."
The episode concludes with a heartfelt closing prayer led by Stephanie, encapsulating the themes discussed and seeking divine guidance for the listeners. The hosts express gratitude and reinforce the message of divine communication through dreams.
Stephanie Okafor on Divine Encounter ([01:43]):
"I could read the scriptures when it talks about angels and X, Y, and Z... something just unlocked for me spiritually."
Stephanie on Interpreting Dreams ([15:55]):
"Sometimes you may not even know exactly where the dream came from... but you can pray against it."
Stephanie on the Purpose of Prayer ([20:38]):
"Nothing happens to my child... there's something God designed me to see this through."
Stephanie on Good vs. Evil Dreams ([37:31]):
"The motive is where it changes... from growth to destruction."
Lauren LaRosa on Experiencing Divine Dreams ([20:38] – [34:00]):
"I know it's different... but pastors will prophesize to you why... which is to be in alignment with God's will."
Pastor Stephanie E.K. Okafor's interview on The Breakfast Club offers a profound exploration of how dreams serve as a conduit for divine communication. Her insights encourage listeners to approach their dreams holistically, discern their origins, and align their prayers with God's purpose for a spiritually enriched life.
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