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DJ Envy
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DJ Envy
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DJ Envy
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Tamela Mann
So you're her, right? You're the boxer.
David Mann
Experience.
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The incredible true story.
Tamela Mann
As long as I'm boxing, I'm gonna be okay.
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Of Claressa Shields.
DJ Envy
My baby going to the Olympics. Let's go.
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Critics are calling the Fire Inside an inspirational knockout crowd pleaser.
Tamela Mann
If I'm gonna train for this gold.
Lauren LaRosa
Medal, I'm gonna need exactly what the man gets.
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It's a monumental achievement.
Tamela Mann
I've been working my whole life.
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It is the Fire Inside. Based on the incredible true story.
Tamela Mann
Rated PG 13.
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May be inappropriate for children under 13. Only in theaters everywhere.
David Mann
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DJ Envy
The Breakfast Club.
Charlamagne Tha God
Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy.
Tamela Mann
Jess.
Charlamagne Tha God
Hilarious. Charlamagne tha guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Jess is on maternity leave, so Lauren LaRosa is filling in. And we got some special guests in the building. We have Tamela and David Mann. Welcome.
DJ Envy
What up, though?
Tamela Mann
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for having me. Good morning.
Charlamagne Tha God
How you doing?
DJ Envy
Now, just in case y'all wondering why I'm here, I walked in the door and she's. Sit down. Yes, ma'am.
David Mann
I'm in your house because Ms. Man is here to promote her new album Live. Breathe, Fight. But I mean, y'all been doing things together forever. Like, do y'all even know life without each other?
Tamela Mann
No, and I don't want to either.
DJ Envy
Look, we got married at 21, so we've been married 36 years.
David Mann
21.
DJ Envy
That's a long time.
Tamela Mann
No separations. I like to say that.
Charlamagne Tha God
There you go.
Tamela Mann
We worked through it.
David Mann
Did y'all know as soon as y'all saw each other like she did?
DJ Envy
Cause I was that kind of guy. No.
Lauren LaRosa
Whatever.
Tamela Mann
No, we did not.
DJ Envy
But we were just friends. Okay. We were just friends.
Tamela Mann
But it wasn't long after, though, that I knew. But I wouldn't let him know that I knew that. I felt like that, like he was the one. I felt like he was the one. But I was like, I don't know. Cause, you know, David had a little play in him.
David Mann
So when did you realize?
Tamela Mann
When did I realize? It was probably it was really some months that. Cause we started singing together early. So it was some months. And David started protecting me, even, like, with the other guys. Cause I was the only girl in the group singing. And he would always like, y'all don't horse play.
DJ Envy
Yeah. Singing group. Like, so y'all know me, Kirk Franklin and another guy, Darrell Blair. So Kirk Franklin and I have been friends for like 40 something years old.
Tamela Mann
Yeah. When he was 15, when I met.
DJ Envy
School together, we met him.
Tamela Mann
So it just. But I just felt like if it works out, I said. I said, I really like this dude. But, you know, I have to just.
Charlamagne Tha God
See, wait and see how Watch his playaways.
Tamela Mann
Yeah, yeah. You know, and it did. His plays played away.
DJ Envy
She actually busted me one time with my. With a couple other girls that I was with.
Tamela Mann
I was just looking.
DJ Envy
She was just looking.
Tamela Mann
I didn't bust you. You bust yourself.
DJ Envy
They threw me a surprise birth. Both girls?
Tamela Mann
No. Well, we were. No, they just. We were all these friends. You know how you invite people to. Okay, we gonna do this. They should have told me we meeting at this house. They should have told me we meeting at this house. But he brought somebody with him. So we didn't know that he was gonna bring somebody. But it was just people that we all knew. And so happened a couple of them that knew. And then his new piece, I guess he had.
Lauren LaRosa
Wow.
DJ Envy
Throw me a half giggy.
David Mann
Your new piece.
Tamela Mann
Well, I've been saying it was back in the day. Your nephew. Let's go back. Y'all shaded all this is like 19, you know, we like 19 years old at time. So, you know, that was.
DJ Envy
That's about tabular man. Live breathe through this.
Lauren LaRosa
She didn't breathe through it.
Charlamagne Tha God
Thirty years later, he's still nervous.
David Mann
I just want to know how much did your cup run up over with women, David? How much? How much?
DJ Envy
I was doing a little much. That's why I wouldn't. I'm for real. That's why I wouldn't hook up with her. Because she was my friend. And I knew once I started that is it. That was it.
David Mann
She wasn't going nowhere.
DJ Envy
Nope. Then once I said, I do, I am, I will. All right. And here I am.
David Mann
How did you know? I want brothers to know. How did you know? This is the one. I'm gonna put all my playaways to the side. This is what I want to be with for the rest of my life.
DJ Envy
She was just different, you know, she. She just wasn't the same. She was somebody I could call when I was in trouble. I had to wash dishes and stuff. I'd call her and talk and wash dishes. She'd be, what you doing? I'm sitting here washing dishes. What you doing? And so it was just. We would just have that conversation about everything. Like, she knew about. She actually knew my baby, mom, and them before me. So she knew about all of them, Everybody. So when I decided, okay, let me cut this out. I start calling. Hey, you may want to come and get this last little hit. Cause I'm about to get into something for life. And boom. That's it. Wow, that's beautiful. 36 years, I thought, don't that sound crazy?
David Mann
So you told the girl, come get one last little.
DJ Envy
I thought we was gonna get past it.
Tamela Mann
That sound crazy?
DJ Envy
No, but I just. I just knew for real, she just had something different. And, you know, we can say it's different, but, you know, me being a believer, I know it was the anointing that she had on her that was different. So I couldn't. I wasn't gonna be able to play her. And then I knew she was gonna be famous. So I got her pregnant, trapped her, and, you know.
Tamela Mann
So you did not know that. You did not know, but it's really been a wonderful ride, y'all.
David Mann
That's right.
Tamela Mann
Marriage can work. I mean, it takes work.
Charlamagne Tha God
That's right.
Tamela Mann
But we really enjoy each other's company. And I like him. We like each other. We're not just in love, but we really like and love each other. Hanging out doing nothing is fun to us.
DJ Envy
And, you know, sometimes that's the problem. Getting some of the interviews like this is because, you know, we've. They've pitched us to do interviews as a couple.
Tamela Mann
So.
DJ Envy
Wait a minute. Has he cheated on it? No, he's not cheating on. Does he have something else going on? Anybody addicted to something? No.
Lauren LaRosa
They come to y'all with that.
Tamela Mann
Yeah, it's like. It's like you can't get interview if you're doing good, you know, it's like the world thrives off of the negative.
David Mann
That's right.
Tamela Mann
It's like the positive that people. And that it can work. And talking about family and trying to hold family together, I mean. Cause, you know, it just.
DJ Envy
Somebody put online the other day, they can't be that happy. They fake.
Tamela Mann
Yeah, that's fake.
Charlamagne Tha God
That's. People say that all the time. Yeah, they say that all the time. And the reason is because they're not happy in their life. They can't see how you guys are not happy. I was gonna ask, so what do you tell young couples? Because you said something. You said y'all. But you've been together that long. Never separation and never separation. Right. Me and my wife, we've been married 23 years, been together 31. No separations. Right. We worked through everything. Good, bad, ugly, whatever. So what do you tell young couples?
Tamela Mann
We took divorce off the cup. We took divorce off the table. And the thing is, is to. Sometimes you gotta just separate in, for instance, in the house, to just gather your thoughts versus, like, throwing venom, like, at the heat of the moment. Sometimes you just have to back up. Okay? Just take a minute and digest what's happening versus. So you won't say, pierce, I say piercing things. I've been saying that since the beginning. Because you can say stuff when you're angry, and then you can't. You can't take them words back. Because no matter if somebody say, I'm sorry and I forgive you, but in the back of your head, you still thinking.
DJ Envy
You can never try to resolve issues in the middle of a battle.
Tamela Mann
Right?
DJ Envy
I mean, just let it calm down a little. Just cool it off a little bit. When you trying to resolve stuff in the middle of war, it gets a little hard because, you know, early on, like, she say, just I. I'm quick with. Quick with my mouth, quick with my tongue, So I would just say piercing stuff. And I just started to see how, man, this is devastating, this woman. It's crushing her. So, you know, I just started building her up.
Charlamagne Tha God
What's the worst battle that you guys got into that you remember that it was just nasty. And you was going at her neck. She was going at your neck.
DJ Envy
Okay, so, like, we talk.
Tamela Mann
Which one you gonna say?
DJ Envy
The knock at the door. Yes, the knock at the door. Uh.
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, knock at the door.
Tamela Mann
Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
Who showed up at the crib?
DJ Envy
Imag. Imagine she's at work, you at the house, and the constable knock on the door and say, hey, here you go. Here the papers.
Tamela Mann
You've been served.
DJ Envy
You've been served. And say, served with what? What? Oh, you have a baby. I'm like, what? I got a new. Yeah. And so she comes home and is like, hey, how your day been? I'm good.
Charlamagne Tha God
This is how long y'all were married at this time?
DJ Envy
We were married five years by this time. So before I got married, I. One of them last come by.
David Mann
The last little hit. Yeah, yeah. Come on, give me the last little hit.
Lauren LaRosa
Last little relapse always get you.
DJ Envy
Yeah. And so imagine her coming home and say, hey, how's your day? Oh, my day was good. What you do today? Oh, I got us another baby.
David Mann
Oh, that's how you said it.
DJ Envy
No, I did not.
Tamela Mann
It took him some time to get it out.
DJ Envy
I rehearsed it because on the way home. Okay, I'm gonna tell her like this, so, you know, you remember. Nah, I can't say it that way. So you know the time, and I can't.
Lauren LaRosa
Jesus Christ.
DJ Envy
I just tried to rehearse it. So finally I had to come and say, dear, you know, I might have a child that, you know, that I had.
Tamela Mann
And he. The thing is, Is he. He had two. He had two. He said from a previous argument. That's what he calls it. So that he's. But they, you know, two. Two different ladies.
DJ Envy
One of the best things that have happened. My two daughters, the best thing.
Tamela Mann
So it's like I told him. I said, okay. Now I accepted the one because I was there when she was born. Cause we was best friends.
DJ Envy
She was at the hospital the day of my child.
Tamela Mann
I went to the hospital with him when she was born. The whole 21 hours, y'all sit there. But as he came and said this to me about the other young lady, which I knew about the other young lady. And I knew that they had been intimate. I knew they had a thing going and all of that. But for how it was presented, it's like. It was just a. It was rough for me to take. You know, I was like, I don't know. Cause the chick, you know, God bless her, we're in a better place now. But then she was rough to deal with, right?
David Mann
You had to put holy hands on her.
Tamela Mann
I didn't put no holy hands on her. You know, I just had. We had words, but not even to. They don't do that. They air this stuff. Don't put me out there like that. Somebody might come try me. But I am. But I'm licensed.
David Mann
There you go.
Tamela Mann
How about that? Them holy bullets. Holy bullets.
Charlamagne Tha God
So how did you get through it?
Tamela Mann
But I just. You know what? We talked about it, and David really.
DJ Envy
Pulled me before we got there. It got really bad because she was like, I can't deal with this. I'm out. And I shared with her, like, look, it's me and you against everything.
Tamela Mann
That's the breakdown he gave it.
DJ Envy
It's me and you against everything else. Because I know that this is a hard situation to swallow. I know I put us in a bad situation. I tell my kids now, I say, look, I put y'all in a bad situation because now you got to go over to your mom's house for Christmas, okay? I'm about to have Thanksgiving. I say, that's a hard place to put kids. And I say, I take full responsibility. I mean, that my. My two old daughters. Best thing ever happened. You see him now? I went to get the. The blood test. You know how you go in to do the. The test? And I was going to go and do a test, and, you know, first thing. Baby probably ain't mine. That baby ain't mine. So by now, she's five. And I walk in the place, and I Look down at this little face.
Lauren LaRosa
I.
DJ Envy
We ain't got to take no blood. Her face is exactly like mine. I was like, no. I said, dear, we gotta just.
Tamela Mann
Now, you ain't got to tell another part what she said to you.
DJ Envy
Oh, yeah, you gonna give me a check? You gonna give me that check?
Lauren LaRosa
Oh, my God.
DJ Envy
But it was. It was parents. It was both of us as parents that put that kid in that bad situation. And our relationship. My relationship with her is like, man, I just love both of them.
Charlamagne Tha God
You had no clue into the knock.
DJ Envy
On the door, like, right? I mean, you know, there was murmurs, you know, but I wasn't sure. Of course, I wasn't gonna volunteer. Yeah, like, bring another one on.
Lauren LaRosa
But, I mean, if the knock at the door. If the knock at the door never happened, you would have just, like. The murmurs just would have been there, like you never wanted to know.
DJ Envy
I don't know. I don't know if I was even mature enough to say yes on that.
Lauren LaRosa
Gotcha.
DJ Envy
You know, that's the whole deal is maturity.
Tamela Mann
It's the honesty. It's like, if you didn't. Because, like I say, we knew that they had been involved. Right? It's like. But it's a possibility. And you saw the baby. But to me, she looked like him and she looked like her. So it's like she was a great mixture of the two. But when David told me the resolve, for me, DJ Envy was that he did the Spock thing. He said, it's us, and then it's them.
DJ Envy
It's everybody else.
Tamela Mann
He said, so you never have to worry about me choosing you over them because it's us first and then them. So that gave me a reassurance in our relationship. I wouldn't have to be fighting to just have my place, because I knew that I had the papers, but still, you don't want to be worrying with someone else over just stuff that's even outside of your home.
Charlamagne Tha God
How did you block out the noise?
Tamela Mann
Right?
Charlamagne Tha God
Because I'm sure you had friends and girlfriends leave him.
Tamela Mann
He's this, that, and the other. But no one really, honestly did come to me like that. Because the thing is, is we were in a small community. A lot of us, we were. Y'all. We was church kids. We was in church singing and all this kind of stuff. So all of us did know each other and knew that they had been what they did.
DJ Envy
What is that?
Tamela Mann
You know, doing what you did? Oh, yeah. You know, being involved. That's outside the church. Yeah. So. But if people didn't really, they knew me as a person, and they knew her as a person. So it's like she had her reputation, I had mine. And it's like, no one really never stepped to me and said anything crazy like that, but they was willing to defend me.
DJ Envy
Now, mind you, when we wrote this book and I put the chapter. The knock at the door at it, girl, he was cheating on you all the time. It's like, do the math. Read the book. Just go read the book. You know, Girl, I knew he was cheating. It's like, you just gotta read and just follow. But that's what I'm doing.
Tamela Mann
But we living and we breathing, and we fight through all the things. You know, 36 years later, we're still building, we're still living because we just believe that heaven is our destiny. You know, we're breathing every breath with purpose. We believe that we have a call, we have a purpose to do what we do, even to inspire people that follow us in relationships. I mean, this is like you said, everybody wanting us to do this together. Lord, they do, and they expect to see us. It's like, when you see one, it's like, okay, where your husband? You out here by yourself? No, he's here. It's like he just stepped away from me.
DJ Envy
Trust me, I've been trying to lay in the cut while we've been doing this promo tour, and the same thing.
Tamela Mann
I was like, we fighting together. We doing this together.
David Mann
I really can't see. I mean, I don't see y'all apart. Y'all are really tag team back again.
Tamela Mann
Every time we see y'all, we really.
Lauren LaRosa
It was complete. When y'all are together and if.
Tamela Mann
And that's. That's. I love the completion of it, because he completes me. And my prayer is like, lord, please give us more time. Give us more time together. And it's like I said, I don't know if I can do life without him, without God, without him.
Lauren LaRosa
He's so beautiful.
Tamela Mann
But it's the truth. But it's the truth, though, because it's like, it is really a completion. David pushed me into this. I mean, he helped me to get to this point as an artist. He helped develop me as an artist. And it's like, even when it comes to, like, interviews y'all, this man, but us being the same age, but he's walked me through life. It makes me almost in tears right now, because it's like, I'm really grateful. I'm really grateful. I'm thankful for you, and I really appreciate we done came to the breakfast.
DJ Envy
You about to turn this into oak.
Tamela Mann
But having the opportunity. No, to even. To be, you know, to be transparent and to even show people our lives. It's not a joke. It's really serious that he is my friend and we really have a good time together, but we don't base it off of the things. And a lot of times, I think in our life, especially in our culture, we build things. Like, it has to be about the gifts and what we doing for each other, what we going and what we drive, and it is.
DJ Envy
No, we enjoy each other.
David Mann
Y'all was broke together.
DJ Envy
Broke. That was an understatement. We were broken and broke, but I.
Charlamagne Tha God
Think that's what's missing. A lot of times, like, even when I look at my wife or Charlamagne looks at his wife, we came up from the bottom. We didn't have anything. It was just love. It wasn't about a check. It wasn't about a dime. Expensive to us was Red Lobster. Like, you know that's right. You know what I mean?
David Mann
Dining, baby.
DJ Envy
Y'all was my favorite restauran, y'all.
Charlamagne Tha God
That was a special occasion, right?
David Mann
I sold crack too, though, so.
Tamela Mann
Oh, you did?
David Mann
Back in the day.
Tamela Mann
Too scared. Too scared. I was around it, but was too scared to do that.
David Mann
Is that what got y'all to get into shape? Cuz you said, you know, you wanted to live, like, you wanted more time. Is that what made y'all say, you know what? Let's get into the.
DJ Envy
I had whole diabetes scare and all this stuff, and we just like, man, we gotta do something? I can't leave her here by herself. It's just too much going on, just seeing the craziness, and I'm just like, I can't leave her here by. I gotta get myself together. And so that's what we doing. We just a work in progress, you know?
David Mann
Y'all look good, man.
Tamela Mann
Thank you. Working from the inside out. I think the importance of. Is, like, this record and doing it is like mentally working. Coming from a mental space, coming from building the body, doing differently, making better decisions for the body. And that thing is like, so we can be here longer together.
DJ Envy
And I was telling you off air, thank you so much for what you're doing in this. This mental health space.
David Mann
Thank you, brother.
DJ Envy
It means a lot to me as a black man and somebody who's expected to make the world feel good. And I was like, I share with. I was embarrassed to come out with my story of depression and making it and to Hear stories like yours and. And you're talking and just putting it in the forefront. It makes people like me say, good, I can share mine without being embarrassed because I was embarrassed. Really?
Tamela Mann
I mean, like, why embarrassment, though?
DJ Envy
Because people expect me every time to come out and perform.
David Mann
Got to be funny.
DJ Envy
You got to be funny. You gotta. You, Mr. Brown, you make the world laugh. Like she said, I grew up, I'm a family. Like, okay, so people expect that. And so they don't know in the background, you dying. You know, literally dying and drowning. And so when people like you come out and. And, you know, make it known, hey, it's cool. I have a therapist and I have Jesus.
David Mann
That's right.
DJ Envy
And so, you know, I just.
Tamela Mann
But even all of. Yeah, it's just all of y'all lives, what y'all give. It's. I think it's important that all of us bring what we bring to the table. I feel like this pie is big enough for all of us to have a piece to share it. We can help somebody. I mean, one of our messages ought to get to somebody. I mean, my God. I mean, it's like with the platforms that we. We have, we should be able to help encourage somebody from any walk of life. I just feel like we're sent here not just for us. We're sent here to help all walks of life.
David Mann
So what's the message in this album?
Tamela Mann
This album is to live, breathe, and fight. Even though you're facing the things you're facing the songs, excuse me on here is talking about carry on. Even though that you've dealt with mental health or different things in your family or whatever your issues may be, we have to carry on. We deserve to win. After you've done and been through the mess and the upbringings that we've came out of, we deserve to win. You deserve to have some nice things. You deserve to have a smile on your face, to be in good relationships.
DJ Envy
I'm not going to miss you gonna find somebody. I've been watching. I be talking to the screen. Leave her alone.
Tamela Mann
Thank you.
David Mann
She don't pray, though. She don't pray about it.
Charlamagne Tha God
She was kind of like you early on. She was a player.
Lauren LaRosa
That is not true. That is not true.
Charlamagne Tha God
All the men have caught on to what she's been doing.
David Mann
Been checking the radio every day.
DJ Envy
I see it. Trust me, I'm with you.
Lauren LaRosa
I've been watching. You know, I did not start out player, player. I was.
DJ Envy
Oh, wait a minute.
David Mann
Wait a minute.
DJ Envy
See, you messed up. You said I didn't start out player.
Lauren LaRosa
I didn't. I mean once you get I wasn't a player. I was single. I'm just meeting people, you know. And now she kicks the same game.
Charlamagne Tha God
To the same guy.
Lauren LaRosa
That's not true.
Charlamagne Tha God
And they figured it out to the fact that two gentlemen said you need to fix yourself. You need to get therapy to come back around.
David Mann
First of all, two men told us you need to heal Tamworth and don't.
Lauren LaRosa
One of them only lasted till the Sunday after homecoming.
Charlamagne Tha God
Cause you needed to heal.
Lauren LaRosa
No, because he don't get me started. A lot of it be deflecting and.
David Mann
Cap and the language she uses she be calling these guys things like eaters. Y'all know about that?
DJ Envy
No.
Tamela Mann
You know we owe not my best eater.
David Mann
Yes.
Tamela Mann
Yes.
Lauren LaRosa
I didn't say that.
Tamela Mann
I don't say that.
DJ Envy
Got him in the phone.
David Mann
Got him labeled in the phone.
DJ Envy
Eater. Eater too.
David Mann
Best eater.
Lauren LaRosa
That is not true.
Tamela Mann
I would never let's pray but I.
Lauren LaRosa
Think we should I'm down to pray.
Tamela Mann
But when you look down to pray but when you looking at being found I think we have to make a list of what we're wanting in a relationship.
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The holidays are about spending time with your loved ones and creating magical memories.
DJ Envy
That will last a lifetime.
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So whether it's family and friends you haven't seen in a while or those.
DJ Envy
Who you see all the time, share.
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Holiday magic this season with a nice cold Coca Cola. Copyright 2024 the Coca Cola Company.
David Mann
The.
Charlamagne Tha God
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Charlamagne Tha God
This is Questlove and I'm here to tell you about a new podcast I've been working on with the Story Pirates and John Glickman called Historical Records. It's a family friendly podcast.
DJ Envy
Yeah, you heard that right.
Charlamagne Tha God
A podcast for all ages. One you can listen to and enjoy with your kids. Starting on September 27th, I'm going to toss it over to the host of Historical Records, Nemini to tell you all about it. Make sure you check it out.
Lauren LaRosa
Hey y'all, Nimini here. I'm the host of a brand new history podcast for kids and families called Historical Records. Historical Records brings history to life through.
DJ Envy
Hip hop, Smash, Slam, Another one gone. Bash Bam. Another one gone. The crack of the bat and another one gone. A tip of the cap cause another one gone.
Lauren LaRosa
Each episode is about a different inspiring figure from history. Like this one about Claudette Colvin, a 15 year old girl in Alabama who refused to give up her seat on the City bus.
Tamela Mann
Nine whole months before Rosa Parks did the same thing. Check it. And it began with me.
DJ Envy
Did you know?
Lauren LaRosa
Did you know I wouldn't give up my seat? Nine months before Rosa. Get the kids in your life excited about history by tuning in to historical records, because in order to make history.
Tamela Mann
You have to make some noise.
Lauren LaRosa
Listen to historical records on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Tamela Mann
Then you become the list.
Charlamagne Tha God
Fuck that talk.
Lauren LaRosa
I have a list.
Tamela Mann
So we become the list. And just like one of the songs is called Big Facts. It's on. It's my fun song, but it's like looking in the mirror, examining yourself, fixing yourself. So when he finds you, you're ready. It's like you're making ready. It's not like you just sitting.
DJ Envy
What does he find?
Charlamagne Tha God
It?
DJ Envy
What does he find?
Tamela Mann
He finds a good thing. You find favor. We bring the favor. Women don't realize that when a man finds you and connects with you, you are the favor to the relationship. And favor goes way beyond money.
David Mann
That's right.
Tamela Mann
So it's like you want to be. It's like, I don't understand it, but it's like I found these things out later in life that I have value, that I have. I have a purpose. And again, a call.
DJ Envy
Y'all got Tam over here ministering to Lauren. Need it.
Tamela Mann
She needed.
Lauren LaRosa
First of all, don't say Lauren needed, because a lot of.
Tamela Mann
Come on. Okay.
Lauren LaRosa
They don't understand.
Charlamagne Tha God
I promise. You don't receive it. No, no, no, no, no.
Lauren LaRosa
I don't receive it from you.
David Mann
She texts a man a scripture. Proverbs 18:21. Talk about life and death are in the power of the tongue. True. What?
Tamela Mann
That's true.
DJ Envy
I did not send back, bro.
Lauren LaRosa
I did not sen.
DJ Envy
Okay, did you see?
Lauren LaRosa
I would never send.
David Mann
I never heard your voice go that high.
Lauren LaRosa
Because why would y'all play in front of God face like that?
Tamela Mann
Okay.
Lauren LaRosa
I would never send a proverb talking about my best eater. My pastor would have your tongue.
Tamela Mann
Help me, Lord.
David Mann
Help me, Lord.
DJ Envy
See, that was too easy of a joke.
David Mann
She just laid it. That's why you know what you're doing.
Lauren LaRosa
I was waiting.
Tamela Mann
Well, don't take that, will you? But just know what you want, and it's okay to have standards and.
Lauren LaRosa
But you said that you realize later in life about your value, right?
Tamela Mann
Yeah. It begins.
Lauren LaRosa
It takes time for you to get to a certain point where you feel like, okay, now I'm ready to enter back into things.
Tamela Mann
Yes.
Lauren LaRosa
I just feel like Some men don't understand when you're taking that time, and that doesn't mean that you're lonely or without. It's just, you know, you need that time. I stepped away from something. See, that's the healing process.
Tamela Mann
When y'all say for taking her time for healing. That's the healing process right there. So she is in a process of being healed.
DJ Envy
That's the way she looking at this.
Tamela Mann
So y'all just have to. It's her way.
DJ Envy
Are you still dating her Kneeling.
Tamela Mann
She was at GHO this weekend, but honestly.
DJ Envy
What's that?
Lauren LaRosa
What's GHO?
DJ Envy
I wasn't talking about We58.
Tamela Mann
I got eaters.
Lauren LaRosa
I be with the hoes. She's sorry for them. That's okay. I done brought y'all into this, and I did not know.
Tamela Mann
It's okay. But as long as you know.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah, I know.
Tamela Mann
And I know these guys are. Y'all stop teasing her.
DJ Envy
Why you gonna come here and try to mama somebody?
Tamela Mann
Because I'm this old. I'm just old. I'm the oldest in here. I'm 58.
Lauren LaRosa
I did take before I started dating. I took a lot of time because it was a long relationship that I was in. And then I got back outside, and now here come these two.
David Mann
I see God working on it. God got his hand on it.
Tamela Mann
You know, Hand on Me is one of my titles.
Charlamagne Tha God
That's right.
DJ Envy
Hand On Me.
Tamela Mann
Hand on Me.
Lauren LaRosa
And you don't need to have hands around the.
Tamela Mann
What?
Lauren LaRosa
The way he got his foot on.
Tamela Mann
He need a choke on it. What? But I have a song on this called Power. Talking about the power of God. You should listen to it, Charmaine. It's a good one. The power is really just talking about how. Just how the Lord just maneuvers and how his power just happens over things and just how he just holds us. I mean, it's just amazing how God just really protects us when we don't know that we being protected. We think we out here doing it ourselves, but the Lord is really shielding us. So it's just. It's just really a blessing to be able to bring good. You know, My hope is that it's good music and people can be healed and have inspiration from it.
David Mann
I was gonna ask about, Lord, I trust you. Right? Because, you know, to what you're speaking about now, you say, when the sun's not shining down on me, when the chaos is overwhelming my peace, when my life is spinning out of control, when I lose my grip and I start to let go, Lord, I trust You. How hard is it to put your trust in God when things aren't going well, when you don't see no light?
Tamela Mann
At the end of the day, it could be hard. To me, that's when I have a real good cry. I just get in my. I get in my car a lot because my car. To me, it's like I can get away from everything and I don't have to hear anything. It's like that. But in my closet, it's like a prayer closet. And in my car. But it's like. Because God is like, I don't understand what's happening right now. This last year and a half of things and things coming to me, like, I can't believe that I'm in this situation. I can't believe that I'm having to fight just to prove who I am. And I. And I thought I was doing that, but it's like, okay, Lord, I trust you. I trust that you gonna handle it. And then that's when the song, too came for me. Working for me. That the Lord just gave me a stamp of approval. You may not see me at work, but I'm working in your behalf that he's working for me. Bless you.
Charlamagne Tha God
Thank you.
Tamela Mann
So it's just. I just take comfort in knowing that he is my guide and he is my help. He's my present help in the time of storm. Even when I don't see and nobody else is around, he's there, and I can go to him and I ain't got to worry about him. My business being in the street.
David Mann
That's why testimony is so important, though, right? Because I like to hear other people's stories and what they've been through. And what they've been through.
Tamela Mann
The overcoming of it.
David Mann
That's right.
Tamela Mann
Overcoming.
David Mann
That was your last album.
Tamela Mann
The Overcomer. Sure was. Overcomer. And that's the thing is. And the Lord has allowed me to finish the work, even to the extent of. Even with my body. I finally found. I reached the goal of, like, even the weight loss that I was trying to do so. But to even spiritually become a writer. Like, I wrote on. It's like I gave direction on every song on this album. So it's like, things that I'm proving to myself and showing like, lord, you know, I wrote the plan down and I'm following through with the plan and working for me.
David Mann
That was your 11th number one, right?
Tamela Mann
Yes.
David Mann
The record of all time.
Tamela Mann
Number one.
David Mann
Wow. Congratulations.
DJ Envy
With her mentor. Her and Kirk, we're tied. Yeah. We're tired for number one, we're tired.
Tamela Mann
But I didn't. I mean, you don't see this stuff coming. You hope people gonna like the music and enjoy it. But it's like when it happened. I don't even look at the charts, y'all. They have.
Lauren LaRosa
They tell me she never know working for me. You lean into the country music. Yeah. So I know, and I know Kirk Franklin is known for dibbling, dabbling different beats and sounds and stuff like that. Have you thought about, like, what, you know, it would be like for you to do other styles or bringing other styles, like the R and B or like anything secular, but making it gospel, kind of how he does a bit.
Tamela Mann
Well, I kind of have some ballads that's close to. I would say maybe R B. I've.
DJ Envy
Had a little bit.
Tamela Mann
And then we did do a love project, Us against the world. That I did. Like, I have a song that's called Feels. I sing a song that's called Feel. Like it's really a straight R B song. We didn't push it, but I think it would have really did well. But I just didn't want people to think that I was trying to do R B music, that I still want to stay in my genre. Cause I feel like, again, like I said earlier, we all have a part, a part to play.
DJ Envy
And really, she was afraid of what.
Tamela Mann
People were going to say. I did. I was. I was very fearful. And it wasn't like I was fighting them, but I was dragging my feet. It's like I feel like if I can hear whatever, I can sing whatever, you know, like when you say the country music, it's like, I'm country, y'all. Y'all hear it in my. Just how I talk. But I know about the chickens and the hogs. You know, I was raised actually in the country, so it's like those things to me, it's like I've been stretched and people just don't. I think once you hear. A lot of times we only listen to people's single that they have out. But we really don't go listen to the body of work.
DJ Envy
Even with the love project we did, she was afraid, like, of what people were gonna think. I'm in the studio, I got my chest hairs out. I got my sunshade. I'm doing my best R and B.
Lauren LaRosa
Oh, you was ready.
DJ Envy
What?
Tamela Mann
I mean, let the lights down. Pull the lights down.
DJ Envy
I had my shades on. I was doing my. Oh, yeah. And she was like, just have I said that is not how you sing. But Then I realized she was afraid of what the church crowd was gonna, you know, think of her.
Tamela Mann
But once I thought about it, it's like I'm singing to the love of my life. I'm singing to him. I'm not singing for y'all, per se. I mean, thank God for everybody. But I was singing to him. And the song is. You make me feel like I'm on top of the world. And when it's the truth, he does. So it's like, when you hear this song, it's like. It just brings it all to life. Of, like, me talking straight to him or him, you know, feeling like when he touched me, it just. It's just high feet. He still give me goosebumps. So it's like, babe, don't do that. Don't do that right now.
DJ Envy
Cause you're not touching.
Tamela Mann
You don't do that right now.
David Mann
What was wrong with that, though? Y'all married. Why can't two married people have that?
Tamela Mann
It's true, but it's just the society that we live in, it's like, I. Our people, we can be judgmental. We could be the most loving, but we also can be the most judgmental. When it comes to Christian people.
David Mann
I don't understand that about Christianity. I'm not gonna lie. Thou shalt not judge. One of the first things they teach.
DJ Envy
And I love being on this side, but I don't know why we are like that.
Tamela Mann
I have no, but it's. It. It just. It does have to be a separation, though, y'all. It has. It's just, you know, there. This just has to be. I wouldn't come and look for you to do certain things, just like you probably wouldn't expect for me to do certain things. And it's not judgmental. You just. It's just like, what you've represented, you just. That's just kind of like. Like with your parents. It's like sometimes even some. Like, our kids like to talk about sex. They don't want us to talk about sex. But. Yeah, but we have sex.
DJ Envy
We have sex.
Tamela Mann
So it's like. But it's just like, we make love. People that we do. And people don't want to hear certain things from certain people. So it's not. I don't think all of it is. I would say, judging. It's just. You just. I might start over saying, what would Jesus do? Could you see him just pull back on one? Yes. Get out.
DJ Envy
He wouldn't smoke some weed.
Tamela Mann
Yeah. Get out of there.
Lauren LaRosa
Burning bush now.
Tamela Mann
The burning Bush. Burning bush was to bring a message.
DJ Envy
Did you say that?
Tamela Mann
I'm going to push you out.
David Mann
His father created marijuana.
Tamela Mann
The burning bush was not for used to him smoking. No. The bush was being burnt to show as a sacrifice.
David Mann
So let me ask you a question.
Lauren LaRosa
Ms. Man sacrifice in the bush that I'm talking about.
Tamela Mann
No, they not. No, they cooking greens.
David Mann
God creates everything for a purpose. God created marijuana.
Tamela Mann
He did. But it wasn't for us to be like, joyous, walk around and get high. Healing.
DJ Envy
Now I do believe.
Tamela Mann
Healing. It's healing. It's for healing. It's not for us to just be.
DJ Envy
Like, whoa, I'm going go get one.
Tamela Mann
And I'm just in my class because I got people. This young man, I ain't going to mention his name, but he said, my man, I love your album. And when I'm there, man, I'm going straight to church. It's like.
DJ Envy
But he hid his garage and listen to Tamil, man.
Tamela Mann
He had. He said, man, he said, I had the best church. I said. I said, come on.
DJ Envy
You almost said his name.
Tamela Mann
I said, come on, you know, you. He said, but he says, true, though. He said, I just have better church when I'm. When I done.
Charlamagne Tha God
So he get high. He listen to your album and go to church.
DJ Envy
He is going to listen to the church.
David Mann
I think Jesus getting high with all this discipline.
Tamela Mann
I love him. I sit and talk to him on the phone. I mean, I take time. I take time with people. Cause it's like, once you really get to know me, I really am a mama. Mama. And I'm a. Ain't it. Ain't he? So it's like. And I'm for everybody. You know, I love to cook for everybody. So Mama Man's Kitchen is another thing that I'm doing. But it's just. I just love people, and I just love. I just feel like I should be able. We should be able to rap and talk about everything.
David Mann
Y'all don't think Jesus got high?
Tamela Mann
I don't.
DJ Envy
I'm gonna push you out.
David Mann
Why you think all the people thought he was walking on water?
Tamela Mann
Yeah, I don't cook.
David Mann
He turned the water into wine. So that's the alcohol. And then he turned the fish. Was the fish in the bread. He multiplied it for everybody. That's the munchies, man. I don't know, man.
Charlamagne Tha God
That is the munchies.
DJ Envy
I see why you always on him.
Tamela Mann
Come on. Come on, Lauren, get this. This is.
Lauren LaRosa
I'm with you.
Tamela Mann
This is your time.
Lauren LaRosa
You know what I'm Doing. Doing. I'm allowing him to jump off the cliff on his own. And we just gonna watch him go down.
David Mann
Jesus know my heart. He working on me still.
Lauren LaRosa
He know my heart and he working on me still.
Tamela Mann
Help me, Lord. Live, breathe and fight, y'all. Live, breathe and fight.
DJ Envy
I can't believe some of the stuff he say.
Tamela Mann
Keep living. Keep breathing.
Charlamagne Tha God
He talks so like.
Tamela Mann
Like you be telling him he talk too much.
Charlamagne Tha God
No, no, no. He says it's so aggressive and with so much force that you think is true, Right? He been up here for 15 years talking about the burning bush was dead. Jesus was smoking a burning bush.
Tamela Mann
It wasn't dead.
Charlamagne Tha God
So there' of people out there listening. Jesus was smoking.
DJ Envy
A real believer. Like you know the word.
Tamela Mann
You know that bush was not.
David Mann
We call God the most high.
Tamela Mann
He is the most high.
Charlamagne Tha God
And listen to him.
Tamela Mann
They do. And you. That's misleading. And you stop that. That's the mama me.
David Mann
You quit that. God, if I did anything wrong.
DJ Envy
You.
David Mann
Know my heart, God.
DJ Envy
Back to the album for all of us.
Tamela Mann
Get struck.
DJ Envy
Let me leave.
Tamela Mann
I'm leaving the building, right?
Charlamagne Tha God
Can we play some records off this, please? What you want to hear right now, Lauren? What you want to hear?
David Mann
Deserve to Win for me?
Tamela Mann
Deserve to Win is my. My new single? Yes, Laura, you want to hear that?
Charlamagne Tha God
Deserve to Win.
Tamela Mann
Yes. It's a good.
Charlamagne Tha God
You deserve to win, Lauren.
David Mann
Matter of fact, let's play both, because I don't know if I might go to hell after what I just said. So let's play both just in case.
Lauren LaRosa
Wait, he said what?
David Mann
Let's play both. Oh, let's do Working for Me and deserve the one.
Lauren LaRosa
Don't try to bring God on in here. Double talk now.
Tamela Mann
Now you see it double. You were just smoking with God.
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Now you in the ground.
DJ Envy
Double.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
DJ Envy
All right.
Tamela Mann
I told you he gonna fall off.
Lauren LaRosa
That cloak by himself, ain't I?
Tamela Mann
Won't we do it? Won't he do it? He's working for us tonight. Dancing tonight.
Charlamagne Tha God
You gotta say a prayer before we get up out of here.
Tamela Mann
Father God, we thank you for this day. We thank you for this opportunity to be before your people. We ask you to just bless us, Lord God. Bring inspiration, understanding to all of us. God in every area that we need and touch those that are having problems for us in their minds, Lord God, to just bring and lift every weight off of us. Oh, God, we just give you glory for this opportunity. Thank you for the Breakfast Club. Thank you for what they bring for our people. And we give you glory for everything that you do. In Jesus name. Amen.
DJ Envy
Amen.
David Mann
Amen.
DJ Envy
Amen.
Charlamagne Tha God
We appreciate you for joining us.
David Mann
Always a pleasure, man.
Charlamagne Tha God
Thank you so much.
Tamela Mann
Thank y'all.
Charlamagne Tha God
Pick up the album out right now, live.
Tamela Mann
Breathe, Fight.
Charlamagne Tha God
And remember, keep living.
Tamela Mann
Keep breathing. Keep fighting.
Charlamagne Tha God
God did not smoke the burning bush.
Tamela Mann
He did not. That's not it. It was for a sacrifice. Come on, get out of there.
Charlamagne Tha God
It's the Breakfast Club.
David Mann
Get out of there.
Charlamagne Tha God
It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
David Mann
Wake that ass up early in the morning.
DJ Envy
The Breakfast Club.
David Mann
You wake up, put on your Ray Ban Meta glasses.
DJ Envy
You're living all in. You realize you need coffee so you.
Tamela Mann
Say, hey Meta, how do I make a latte?
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Charlamagne Tha God
After Meta AI gets you caffeinated, you're.
DJ Envy
Ready for some beats. Hey Meta.
Tamela Mann
Play hip hop music.
DJ Envy
You head to meet some friends but can't remember the place. Hey Meta. Call Eva Ray Ban Meta glasses, the next generation of AI glasses.
David Mann
Just say hey Meta.
DJ Envy
To harness the power of Meta AI.
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Podcast Summary: The Breakfast Club - Best Of Full Interview: Tamela & David Mann Talk New Album; Live Breathe Fight, Marriage, Faith & God + More
Release Date: December 31, 2024
Hosts: DJ Envy and Charlamagne Tha God
Guests: Tamela Mann and David Mann
In this heartfelt and engaging episode of The Breakfast Club, hosts DJ Envy and Charlamagne Tha God welcome Tamela Mann and her husband, David Mann. The discussion delves deep into their enduring marriage, the inspiration behind Tamela’s new album Live Breathe Fight, and the couple's shared journey of faith and overcoming life's challenges.
Tamela and David open up about their remarkable 36-year marriage, emphasizing the strength and resilience that have kept them together through thick and thin.
Tamela Mann [03:22]:
"No, and I don't want to either." – Responding to a playful question about their inseparable bond.
DJ Envy [03:25]:
"We have been married 36 years." – Highlighting the longevity of their relationship.
The couple shares anecdotes from their early days, including Tamela's realization of David's protective nature and their mutual commitment to one another despite life's temptations.
David Mann [05:32]:
"This is the one. I'm gonna put all my playaways to the side. This is what I want to be with for the rest of my life." – Expressing his unwavering dedication to Tamela.
The Manns candidly discuss past struggles, including DJ Envy's infidelity and the emotional turmoil it caused. They reveal how open communication and mutual support helped them navigate these difficult times.
DJ Envy [06:33]:
"She was just different, you know, she just wasn't the same. She was somebody I could call when I was in trouble." – Reflecting on what made Tamela unique and essential to his life.
Tamela Mann [07:05]:
"Marriage can work. I mean, it takes work." – Emphasizing the effort required to maintain a strong marriage.
Their story serves as a testament to the power of forgiveness and the importance of standing together against external pressures and misunderstandings.
Faith plays a pivotal role in the Manns' lives, guiding them through personal and professional challenges. They discuss how their belief in God has been a cornerstone of their relationship and individual growth.
Tamela Mann [15:47]:
"We are still building, we're still living because we just believe that heaven is our destiny." – Highlighting the enduring nature of their faith.
DJ Envy [18:27]:
"It means a lot to me as a black man and somebody who's expected to make the world feel good." – Sharing his personal journey with mental health and faith.
Their conversations about spirituality provide listeners with insights into how maintaining a strong belief system can fortify relationships and personal well-being.
Tamela introduces her latest album, Live Breathe Fight, which encapsulates themes of perseverance, faith, and personal growth. The Manns discuss the creative process behind the album and its intended impact on listeners.
Tamela Mann [19:48]:
"This album is to live, breathe, and fight. Even though you're facing the things you're facing." – Explaining the album's empowering message.
David emphasizes the importance of mental health and how the album aims to inspire others to overcome their struggles.
DJ Envy [18:21]:
"I was telling you off air, thank you so much for what you're doing in this mental health space." – Acknowledging the significance of Tamela’s work in promoting mental well-being.
Drawing from their extensive experience, the Manns offer valuable advice to young couples striving to build lasting relationships. They discuss the importance of communication, mutual respect, and prioritizing the relationship over external distractions.
Tamela Mann [08:15]:
"We took divorce off the table." – Stating their commitment to making their marriage work.
DJ Envy [08:49]:
"You can never try to resolve issues in the middle of a battle." – Advising against addressing conflicts during heated moments.
Their guidance underscores the necessity of patience, understanding, and continuous effort in nurturing a strong partnership.
The conversation shifts to the significance of mental health, with DJ Envy opening up about his own struggles with depression. The Manns advocate for seeking therapy and breaking the stigma surrounding mental health, especially within the African American community.
DJ Envy [18:27]:
"It was embarrassing to come out with my story of depression." – Sharing his personal challenge with mental health.
Tamela Mann [19:47]:
"We should help encourage somebody from any walk of life." – Emphasizing the universal need for support and understanding.
Their dialogue highlights the importance of mental health awareness and the positive impact of openly discussing one's experiences.
As the episode concludes, the Manns reiterate the themes of living purposefully, maintaining faith, and continuously fighting for personal and collective growth. They express gratitude for the opportunity to share their story and encourage listeners to pursue their own paths with determination and hope.
Tamela Mann [40:24]:
"Remember, keep living. Keep breathing. Keep fighting." – Offering a final inspirational message to the audience.
This episode of The Breakfast Club offers a profound look into the lives of Tamela and David Mann, showcasing their unwavering commitment to each other, their art, and their faith. Their honest reflections and uplifting messages provide inspiration to listeners navigating their own personal and relational challenges.