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This is DHA Envy from the Breakfast Club. From Curtis 50 Cent, Jackson and the executive producers of Power Comes the Stars original series Raisin Kanan. Kanan's journey is driven by ambition and betrayal as he fights to escape the shadow of his mother Rock, played by Tony, Grammy and NAACP award winning Patina Miller. As tensions rise, Kanan forges a dangerous alliance that sets off a war with his own blood, becoming the ruthless man he's destined to be. This final season is a must watch. Tune in when it drops and stay ahead of the spoilers. Catch the season premiere of raising Canaan June 12th only on stars so women
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All, what's up? It's Lauren LaRosa. And this is another episode of the Latest with Lauren LaRosa. This is your daily dig on all things pop culture, entertainment news, and all of the conversations that shake the room, baby. Now y' all know here at the Latest with Lauren LaRosa. When we kick this thing off, we always start off with the behind the scenes of the grind. Check in. So let's get it. So when we check in behind the scenes of the grind here, it's.
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Just to take a second to see how we feeling a bit. You know, a lot of times you be moving, grooving, doing your thing, and if you out here trying to figure something out, hustling, bustling, doing all the things, a lot of times you don't really take the time to sit down and check in on yourself, to really just ask yourself how you feel. How's it going, man? Sometimes I know myself, I gotta sit down and be like, when did I eat today? And y' all know how it is, like, when you're trying to figure something out, when you're on a mission, when you're in the building phases and stages of something. So I built this into the show so that we all can take a second to really sit down and answer the question, how are we feeling today? So today I am feeling well. I'm excited that it is toward the end of the week this week. I'm not even gonna lie to y'.
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I am very excited about that. But I'm feeling a little bit, like, all over the place. Like, I don't know what it is about this week and how fast it feels like it's moving, But I've talked to you guys before on here about the mantra that I have about not letting the day own me. Owning the day, baby, when I tell you I had to tell myself that a few times this week, like, and I feel like the closer it gets to the end of the week and trying to make sure I get everything done that I need. You know, you got people that need things from you. You're trying to Fulfill all those requests and yeah, also just sleep and make sure you're good. Like a lot of times it just feels like there's 24 hours in a day, but, like, can I get more than 24 hours? A lot of times it feels like that. And a lot of times I'm always like, beyonce got the same 24 hours. That be my motto in life about a lot of things. Like, yo, Beyonce has the same 24 hours. Issa Rae has the same 24 hours. They maximize the hell out of their 24 hours in from what they seem like from the outside looking in. I don't know them yet. They're also just like kind of like balanced people. Like they had time for the family. Like they figure it out. Right. Like it's probably not always balanced, but they figure out the flow. Yeah. So that, that's me this week. My niece has been here with me all week long. She's on her summer break, so also just trying to make sure that like, we at least get out the house after I get off of work. Yesterday we went to lunch. Today we were supposed to go to like a park that does like a park situation. And when I tell y', all, I fell asleep trying to prepare for work the following day. Didn't even get to take her to the park. So, yeah, just trying to be in, in, in lockstep with the, the, the to do list I set for myself for the day. I'm trying to like be in lockstep with that. But listen, you win some, you lose some. Like that is the motto of my adult life. You win some, you lose some. And the ones that you win may baby wins because the other ones might got to wait until after your nap or tomorrow. Okay. I don't feel guilty about it like I used to. I used to feel really guilty about not being able to do all things and show up and literally burnt myself out from that. Not happening this time around. But there's a lot going on in the news. A lot is moving fast in the news as well too. So let's get on into the latest
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This is DHA Envy from the Breakfast Club. From Curtis, 50 Cent Jackson and the executive producers of Power comes the Starz original series Raising Kanan. Kanan Stark's journey has been one of ambition and betrayal as he fights to escape the shadow of his mother, Rock, played by Tony, Grammy and NAACP award winning Patina Miller. As tensions rise, Kanan forges a dangerous alliance that sets off a war with his own blood, becoming the ruthless man he's destined to be. Raising Kanan is a story of power, family and betrayal where every choice has consequences and no one gets out clean. This final season is a must watch. You want to tune in for every episode as it drops. Don't let it get spoiled for you. Starring Makai Curtis, Shameik Moore, Wendell Pierce, Joey Badass, Tony Danza and more. Catch the season premiere of raising Canaan June 12th only on Starz.
Lauren LaRosa
Okay, so quick behind the scenes moment about my business because people always ask me like how do I actually run everything? So Shopify is literally the platform where I turned this tiny idea into a business. Before this I was really just like popping up at any in person event, any vending opportunity I could, which I still do. But I wasn't really as focused online. I was like, you know, the websites are going to be too much to build out. I'm not like a super techy person, even though I can make things cute and I didn't want to put up a website that would run my customers away. I wanted it to be efficient, to be easy. And Shopify helped me build brown girlgrinding.com out. Once I switched to Shopify, it finally clicked like, okay, I can actually do this. It's not about it being tough, it's about using the right platform to make it easy. Shopify takes all of the guesswork out. I build my own store, I manage my community, own my own customer relationships. Plus this is my favorite thing. Shopify gets my products everywhere I'm able to link stuff through Google, YouTube, TikTok, Shop, the Shop app, even Chat, GPT and Instagram, which is very important for me and Shopify's AI co founder, sidekick, game changer, let me tell y', all, right? So it's helped me not only optimize my site, it helps me look at my sales trends, it updates my product skills, all the stuff I'm absolutely not an expert in, but it's like having a genius business partner that never sleeps. And right now the Bronco grinding storefront and the Black Effect storefront is busy and Shopify is handling all of the heavy lifting. I love that for us. I am pumped, like so pumped that Shopify is going to show up at the Black Effect Podcast festival this year in a big way. And I will be there preaching this platform to all of the small black owned businesses that partner with us. So if you've been sitting on an idea or if you're ready to scale, which you've already started, this is your sign. Go to shopify.com Ben, if I can do it, you can do it too.
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All right, so we have been talking a bit about the Carmelo Anthony case. For those of you guys who are not familiar, Carmelo Anthony is the 19 year old boy who at age 17 made headlines when he got into an altercation with a, a another teenage boy, another 17 year old boy named Austin Metcalf. They were at a high school track meet and there was a altercation that ensued of some sort that ended in Carmelo Anthony stabbing Austin Metcalf with a pocket knife. And Austin did not survive the stab. He passed away later from his injuries. Carmelo Anthony was just sentenced to 35 years behind this incident. And we interviewed a community advocate that had been working closely with the family on a prior episode. Literally like as the sentencing was coming down, like the 35 years, like as the world found out and honestly as his family found out, we on our interview in real time found out. So if you guys are listening to this right now, I want to go take a listen to that. Please go take A listen to that prior episode, this episode, prior to this one that you were listening to right now. But less than 24 hours later, I said, things are moving fast and they are as they should when you're dealing with, you know, circumstances like this. Carmelo Anthony's attorneys have filed for or have filed a notice of appeal. Now, again, to reiterate some of the conversation around this case, race has become a really big conversation in this case because Carmelo Anthony is a young black teen and Austin Metcalfe is or was, God rest his soul, a white teenager. So there's been a lot of conversation about race and how this is playing out because of race. Now, the notice of appeal that was filed less than 24 hours after Carmelo Anthony was sentenced to 35 years basically just lets the court know, hey, we do plan to appeal. We're putting you guys on notice that this is coming, it's happening. We don't want to waive that ability to do so. So we'll, we'll, there will definitely be more there because from now on, moving forward, what will happen is there will be documents filed by Carmelo Anthony's family attorneys of the actual appeal with them outlining everything they think was done wrong or should be paid more attention to from the lower court. And they'll be asking for a few things. What they'll probably ask for is a lesser sentence, if not a dismissal altogether of some sort. I, I don't really see them doing the dismissal thing though, because Austin was stabbed, a life was lost. But I can see them asking for a shorter sentence, a retrial to get to that shorter sentence. Those are normally things that people do when they're trying to appeal certain situations. As of right now, Carmelo Anthony is in police custody. He is in prison. There was a story that was reported by TMZ that mentioned that he's currently being held on a, like secure lockdown and ice isolation while officials at the prison that he's at determine like, what his long term placement is going to look like. Because this has been a high profile case up until this point because it went from just a local case to something that made national news headlines. Now with it making national news headlines, there are a lot of celebrities that are starting to weigh in on this conversation. And I think everyone's sentiment is pretty much echoed the same, like, you never want to see no family have to bury their baby ever. White, black, green, purple. You never want to see that. And feeling that heartfelt feeling for Austin Metcalfe and his family who you know, Austin is no longer here. His family no longer has their child anymore. On the other side of it, the conversation about race plays a major factor in the fact that Carmela Anthony said that this happened in self defense. And, and the fact that the court, the all white jewelry did not believe him. And the way that he was sentenced 35 years, with some people believing that it was too harsh, being as though he is standing on the fact that it was in self defense. Now during the trial, the jury had like the court had the. This. The court could have looked at this as a manslaughter situation, which would have lessened it or lessened, you know, the time that Carmelo Anthony was looking at, but they decided not to. And I think. And you guys again can go back to the conversation we had with an advocate who was. I'm not for sure if he's still working with the family. I've seen things that have said that he's not because the family decided no longer to work alongside him. I don't know. I think getting into all that stuff is so meticulous at this point because there's a child that lost his life and there's a child that is sitting behind bars for 35 years who is 19 years old. But in that conversation, I brought up the fact that I don't think that there was enough done in court. I don't think that his attorneys did enough in court whatsoever. Carmelo Anthony's attorneys, that is to prove that yes, this happened, but it was self defense. And really establishing a timeline of what led up to that moment. And, and that's just my opinion. I'm not an attorney, but just from, you know, the court minutes and everything that I was following leading up to the actual verdict day. Now I mentioned some celebrities who are speaking out about this. And I remember, you know, various cases like this that I've covered, whether it be, you know, police brutality to whatever it is when it comes to, you know, fair sentencing and anything systematic. When it comes to black people, black children, often a lot of celebrities speak out because I think, you know, you look at them as celebrities, but these are people that are raising kids themselves like, and that are people themselves. Literally. Like, you know, they're operating in the world the same way we are. And Jay Z said it best, like when in. On 444, I believe was on 444, when he said, I'm not black, I'm O.J. yeah, okay. Like there's not an amount of money that can change the way that the System deals with black people and people of color, period. And we're never going to tiptoe around that fact. So when you see the celebrities getting involved, number one, I think anything that brings light to anything that may be an injustice, like having a celebrity voice on it, if even just to say, hey, here's how I feel as a mother, as a black man or whatever, I'm not against that. I'm for it because I think it brings light, right? And it keeps like, the more attention to a case, the more people are going to have to be held accountable for certain things that go well and. And don't go well. But also, too, I. I think the dynamic that you're seeing with celebrities getting involved with things that are like, systematic or political is because the way that the world that we live in is set up right now, it's like you go, you. You either gonna understand the system and how these things work, or it's gonna do you, period. So, Cardi B. When Carmelo Anthony was first sentenced, she posted, wow. Just freaking wow. Disgusting in all caps. This is not justice. This is trying to make an example. And then she's been retweeting some things about Carmelo Anthony. She retweeted a post that said almost four years ago, Carmelo Anthony saved someone's life. Don't allow these trolls or mainstream media to tell you otherwise. They're trying to character assassina against his image like the dominant societies always do. She then was on her Twitter spaces and she had a lot to say coming from the. The point of she's raising black children. A black. Two black young boys. Let's take a listen to Cardi now.
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As a mom, right, What I would tell my sons, son, don't let nobody punk you. Don't ever let nobody make you feel less of a man. And always defend yourself. If Austin and his team felt a certain type of way that he went to the tent, he should have went to his coach. What do they tell us in school if you have an issue with somebody, go to a teacher, go to an adult. If Austin had an issue with Anthony being in the tent, he should have went to the coach and told the coach, take him out of the tent. But Austin took into his hands to get aggressive with Anthony. Now in life, something that I have to learn. Just because somebody provoke you, and they could provoke you, they could provoke you. If you put your hands on them, it's still wrong. It's illegal to put your hands on somebody. He put his hands on somebody. Austin was twice his size. And not only that, but I also heard he knows how to fight Jiu jitsu. He was surrounded. He was protecting himself. Is it wrong to lose your life over something so petty? Absolutely is wrong. Like I said, it's a loose situation on both. It would have been so different if it was a white boy that went to a black football player's tent and the aggressor was black and big. It is the truth.
Lauren LaRosa
And I think that's the thing for me, it's like, man, when I was. So we're in the interview and we find out that Carmelo Anthony, the interview with the community activist Dominique that was working alongside Carmelo Anthony's family at one point, and he says to me, he breaks the news to me in the interview that Carmelo was sentenced to 35 years. I literally, I couldn't not like, cry, like, I got it together and we moved on. Let's take a listen to that moment.
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We find out that Carmelo has been sentenced to 35 years.
Lauren LaRosa
Oh my God. Mm. Wasn't expecting that. But the first thing I thought of was like, man, I've been a teenager doing dumb things and just reacting in the heat of the moment. And at that age or so like, those decisions just cost someone their life, cost two people their life. One person is no longer here. A family had to bury a kid and the other person is about to spend majority of their life behind bars. Like. But then you get into the conversation of like and this is a question that is fairly being asked and should continue to be asked. Would the outcome of this be different if Carmelo Anthony was a white teenager? Would it be 35 years? Would the jury have ruled differently? There are research and studies that show that having an all white jury for, you know, anyone that is on a trial, especially in a criminal trial, that is a black individual, especially a black man, it fares it. It fair is not as equally just because of, you know, you come in with your preconceived notions. No matter. People are human, jurors are human.
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This is DHA Envy from the Breakfast Club, from Curtis, 50 Cent Jackson and the executive producers of Power Comes the Stars original series Raisin Kanan Kanan Stark's journey has been one of ambition and betrayal as he fights to escape the shadow of his mother, Rock, played by Tony, Grammy and NAACP award winning Patina Miller. As tensions rise, Kanan forges a dangerous alliance that sets off a war with his own blood, becoming the ruthless man he's destined to be raising Kanan is a story of power, family and betrayal where every choice has consequences and no one gets out clean. This final season is a must watch. You want to tune in for every episode as it drops. Don't let it get spoiled for you. Starring Makai Curtis, Shameik Moore, Wendell Pierce, Joey Badass, Tony Danza and more. Catch the season premiere of raising Canaan June 12th only on Starz.
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Now, Wakaf Flocka rap artist Wakaflaka also posted about this on his social media and I thought his take was pretty interesting. And now I. And I. I know Waka. So this is no shot at him. But a lot of the things he's been talking about recently when it comes to politics, not here for it whatsoever, period. But I thought that this post that he put up about the Carmelo Anthony situation was pretty fair and I appreciated him speaking out from his perspective on this thing because the other stuff he's been talking about, you can say that, but here we go. So Waka Flocka says, what I keep coming back to is fairness. I also believe we cannot ignore what led up to that moment. From what I understand, Carmelo Anthony was being bullied, intimidated, and put in a situation where he felt threatened and cornered. When young people are pushed, surrounded, or made to feel like they have no way out, fear can take over in a split second. That does not mean Austin Metcalf deserved to lose his life. He did not. My prayers are with his family because they are living with a pain nobody should ever have to carry. But I also believe Carmelo's side and the circumstances leading up to that moment should have mattered more. This is why so many people are hurt and frustrated with the justice system. It feels like justice isn't always equal, not always compassionate, and not always willing to see the full story, especially when a young black man is the one on trial. I'm praying for Carmelo, his family, his safety and his mental well being. I am also praying for Austin's family because none of this is right. Two families are broken and life was lost. Another young life has been changed forever. My prayer is that truth, fairness, healing and real change will come. Very unfortunate. Like, this whole situation is just so heartbreaking,
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Yeah. So there, there will be updates here and we will keep you guys posted as those updates as they develop. I'm Lauren LaRosa. This has been another episode of the Latest with Lauren LaRosa. I tell you guys all the time that I appreciate y' all, my lowriders, because I do. You could be anywhere with any old body talking about all of the things that you guys choose to be right here with me. And for that, I appreciate it. I'll catch you in my next episode.
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Date: June 11, 2026
Host: Lauren LaRosa (with Charlamagne Tha God, DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious)
Podcast Network: The Black Effect Podcast Network and iHeartPodcasts
This episode dives into the high-profile and controversial sentencing of Carmelo Anthony, a Black teenager convicted of fatally stabbing a white peer, Austin Metcalf, during an altercation at a high school event. The show explores the legal aftermath, celebrity reactions, and the broader implications for race, justice, and youth in America. Lauren LaRosa leads a candid discussion, featuring emotional moments, notable celebrity quotes, and in-depth breakdowns of ongoing debates surrounding the case.
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Lauren explains:
"Race has become a really big conversation in this case because Carmelo Anthony is a young black teen and Austin Metcalfe is or was, God rest his soul, a white teenager." (11:40)