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Kamala Harris
This is an iHeart podcast.
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Eva Longoria
I'm Eva Longoria.
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Maite Gomez Rejuan
And I'm Maite Gomez Rejoan. And this week on our podcast, Hungry for History, we talk oysters. Plus the Miami chief stops by.
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Charlamagne Tha God
If you are not an oyster lover, don't even talk to me.
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Maite Gomez Rejuan
Ancient Athenians used to scratch names onto oyster shells to vote politicians into exile. So our word ostracize is related to the word oyster.
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Kamala Harris
No way. Bring back the Oster Khan.
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Eva Longoria
Listen to Hungry for on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Snax
What's up everybody? It's snacks from the Trapped nerds. And all October long, we're bringing you the horror.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Boogity, boogity, boogity.
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Tony
We kicking off this month with some of my best horror games to keep you terrified.
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Snax
Then we'll be talking about our favorite horror and Halloween movies and figuring out why black people always die first.
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Tony
And it's the return of Tony's horror show side quests written and narrated by yours truly. We'll also be doing a full episode reading with commentary and we'll cap it.
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Snax
Off with a horror movie battle royale. Open your free AHA Radio app search Trapped Nurse Podcast and listen now.
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Hunter
Short on time, but big on true crime. On a recent episode of the podcast Hunting for Answers, I highlighted the story of 19 year old Lachey Dungey. But she never knocked on that door. She never made it inside. And that text message would be the last time anyone would ever hear from her. Listen to Hunting for Answers from the Black Effect podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Lauren LaRosa
I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything. And everybody let me know.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Lauren LaRosa, you hear that exclusive? Lauren came in hot.
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Kamala Harris
I came in telling the truth.
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Lauren LaRosa
Every day I'm bringing you the latest in entertainment, breaking down the headlines you can't stop talking about and giving you my very unfiltered take on the biggest stories in the industry. From exclusive news. And y' all know I got it to us breaking down the interviews. Cause y' all are my co hosts now. I'm giving you deep dives on some of the biggest moments in pop culture.
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Snax
Oh my God.
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Lauren LaRosa
Listen to the Latest with Lauren LaRosa, weekdays on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Please welcome to the stage our forever vice president, Kamala Harris.
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Kamala Harris
What's up, Birmingham? Good evening, good afternoon, good evening. Thank you. Thank you all for taking the time to Be with us this afternoon. And Charlamagne. Thank you.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Yes. It's happy hour. We should be drinking or something. We should have more than water in these cups. How are you feeling?
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Kamala Harris
I am well. Thank you for asking. It's good to be back in Birmingham. It really is. It really is. It was important to me to come back here, and I love you back. Thank you. Thank you.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Just being on the book talk, we can't understand what you just said. Does being on the book tour feel like being back out on the campaign trail?
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Kamala Harris
It's different, but it's good to be out and talking with folks and most of all, listening to folks. It's similar in terms of. It's a pretty intense schedule, but not nearly as intense as 107 days. And it's a different time. We got a lot to talk about.
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Charlamagne Tha God
A lot to talk about. Well, you know, I loved 107 days, and the reason I loved 107 days is because I just love honesty, you know, and it felt like, you know, you got a lot off of your chest. A lot of things that you've been wanting to say but I guess couldn't say you decided to say in the book. Was that a hard process?
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Kamala Harris
So writing the book was a process of reflection for me. And I tend to be very task oriented. And especially in those 107 days, you know, my prayer every night was, God, please let me have done everything I could have done in that day. And thank you. And. And then, of course, the election happened. And then after that, I certified the election January 6th.
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Charlamagne Tha God
I know that was tough.
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Kamala Harris
That was a very difficult day. I write about that. And then the inauguration. And before the inauguration, actually, Doug and I, my husband and I, were packing up DC to go back home to California. And the wildfires erupted in California and we were literally Charlemagne, packing boxes, watching the tv when the chyron said, fire approaching Kamala Harris House. We were actually under a mandatory evacuation from our house in la. We were in dc, but we could not go back to our house. And the evacuation wasn't lifted until January 19th. And the election was on the. I mean, the inauguration was on the 20th. So not until the day before the inauguration that we needed to leave did we know if we'd even have a home to go back to. All of that to say. There really was not much time for reflection for me. And then when I got back, it was about literally and figuratively unpacking, and there was a lot to unpack. And I decided to write about the 107 days and to reflect in a way I had not allowed myself before. And the reflection is about the joys. It's about the. The ups, the downs, the reflection around how I would have done some things differently. But also, I write the book with the hopes that we all will remember the optimism and the feeling of the possibilities for our country. Dare I say, the joy that we will remember that in a way that reminds us it's in us. It's in each of us. And we cannot let the outcome of one election or one individual or circumstance dim or extinguish that light that is in each of us. And especially in moments of darkness.
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Charlamagne Tha God
That.
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Kamala Harris
Is, in particular, when we need to see that light in ourselves and each other, to shine a light on this path and to take us to the next step where we do not lose our fight and we understand that it is worth it because we love our country. And it is our country. It is our country.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Have you been. Have you been shocked by the reaction to the book? Because, you know, I've heard people say, oh, it's just a book full of excuses. But I'm like, well, did you read it? Because the person that she holds the most accountable is herself. And I think you took a little too much blame, if you ask me.
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Snax
Well.
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Kamala Harris
I listen. I believe in speaking truth. And I do talk about, for example, certain interviews I would have done differently, certain decisions or things that I would have said or done differently. But look, I didn't write the book for the pundits. And frankly, just to be very candid, because why not just continue to be candid? I do believe that God will judge us not based on what other people say about us, but based on what we do. And so that's how I feel about that.
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Charlamagne Tha God
You write about finding your own voice during those 107 days. What parts of you felt silenced while you were serving as vice president?
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Kamala Harris
I did not find my voice. I always had my voice. It wasn't lost. But I was vice president. I was now president. And it's the first time in my elected career that I was not the number one, I was the number two. And that took some adjustment, there's no question. But the reality of it is, during the campaign, those 107 days, I was able to do a lot of what I do believe is important about talking about the needs of the American people in a way that was reflective of my priorities. One of the things I reflected on, for example, is that we did a lot of good work in our administration, but I would have done some things differently for example, we did the infrastructure bill, which was very important and very good, good work. We did the CHIPS act, which was about technology and what we need to do in terms of creating and manufacturing it here in the United States. But if I had to do it again and do it differently, I would have first done the family piece that was about extension of the child tax credit, paid family leave, affordable childcare. I would have done that first.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Putting money in people's pocket. Well.
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Kamala Harris
And to deal with the immediate needs. And that's why in the 107 days, I prioritized just exactly that. So my priority in the 107 days included what we needed to do, based on my own experience taking care of my mother when she was sick, which is getting Medicare to cover home health care for those of us who are taking care of our family members, and in particular the sandwich generation, as we call those folks who are raising young children and taking care of your elder parents and relatives. My priority was around getting homeowners or potential homeowners down payment assistance so they could afford a home. Things of that nature were the priorities that I had in the 107 days that I was able to effectuate because I was the top of the ticket.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, I never understood. And we talked about this before, like, you know, the economy does better when there are Democrats in the White House.
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Kamala Harris
That is just a statistical fact. That's right.
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Charlamagne Tha God
But Democrats are never able to message that to the American people. Why?
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Kamala Harris
Well, that's a broad statement, Charlemagne. I mean, I think that he. But to your point, I will say this. I do believe that when we reflect on where we are and reflect on where we are in the context of the election in 24, you know, one third of the voters voted for the current president, one third voted for us, and one third did not vote. Okay, so part of it is the first takeaway for me. We have a lot of work to do on that one third that did not vote about. Figuring out what we need to do to connect and allow people to know their voice is important and a priority. The other piece of it is to remember two thirds did not vote for this man. And also when we are then thinking about, you know, and everyone has a relative, a neighbor, a co worker who voted differently than them, and when we're trying to reconcile it all, I would suggest that part of what we should agree is on is that I do believe there are a fair number of people who voted for the current president on one issue, which is they believed him when he said he would bring down the cost and prices. They believed him because that was their number one issue. Now, he did not tell the truth. There are young children here, so I'll say it that way. He did not tell the truth.
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Charlamagne Tha God
There's a lot of kids in here.
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Kamala Harris
Yes, it's kind of the matinee.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Eight o' clock show. We gonna be cursing. You should have came to the 8 o' clock show. We gonna curse at the 8 o' clock show.
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Kamala Harris
And as evident with the fact that price of groceries is up, inflation is up, unemployment is up, as of today, he did not tell the truth. But when we try to reconcile the differences around how people voted in the election, I think there's some work that we have to do to one, recognize who did not vote. Also to ask for a certain subsection of who did vote, other than differently than we did.
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Podcast Narrator
Why?
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Kamala Harris
And the other piece that I would ask us to reflect on is let's also not make assumptions that the people who voted differently than us are working with the same set of information. And this goes to your point. And I didn't say a different set of facts because there's two plus two is four every day, all the time. That's a fact. But a different set of information. And I do believe, again, part of why I wrote the book is what did we learn that helps us figure out today, in the future? Part of one of the biggest challenges to our democracy is mis and disinformation, which is rampant and is everywhere. And how do we focus on that as part of what is ailing us as a society and a democracy? And how do we then each of us think of our own power and our collective power to do what we can to make sure we are working with the same information in terms of facts? That's part of the work we need to do.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah. I wonder if people just don't know what to believe because it's so much information.
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Kamala Harris
Yeah, I think that's part of it.
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Charlamagne Tha God
And how do you direct people to say, hey, no, this is actually the truth? Because everybody, even when they're telling their lies, thinks that they're telling the truth.
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Kamala Harris
I think some people are telling lies. And they know they're telling lies. They do. And they're doing it to distract from what they're really up to. You know, part of this, you know what I'm saying? Right.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Well, damn, what are they doing in the dark? Cause I swear, everything they doing in the light seems crazy.
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Kamala Harris
Well, you know that, but, you know, but you're right. So, okay, here's why we need to understand we're not the crazy ones. Okay. It's the matinee. So here's the thing, is that part of it is that they are basically trying to give and throw out information that is inaccurate to distract from what they are up to, which is that this is one of the most corrupt, callous, and incompetent presidents of the United States we've ever had. And part of what they're attempting to do is to suggest, which is about gaslighting and scapegoating, that it is those who are relatively powerless that are the cause for our predicament, to distract from us looking at the powerful. They're basically saying to people you have less because of people who have even less than you, to distract from what they are doing, to line their pockets with corrupt and dare I say, certainly unconstitutional behaviors.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Absolutely.
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Kamala Harris
That are about a few people amassing and centralizing power to the exclusion of the whole. They are working against the best interest of working people in America. This shutdown, by the way. They're trying to, again, scapegoat on this. Let's be clear who owns who runs the House, who runs the Senate, who's in the White House, who's to blame for the shutdown. Thank you.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, come on. You're right. But then there's polls that say. There's polls that came out yesterday that say most of America is starting to blame Democrats for the shutdown. Like, how do you combat that?
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Kamala Harris
Well, we have to keep reminding folks of who's in power. And again, this is my point, that they are trying to deflect from the people who are in power to absolve them from any responsibility for what's happening in our country right now. And we can't let them. And that's where I always will say that ultimately, part of my optimism about, you know, and it's waned a bit since the election, I give you that, but it's still a year. And part of my optimism is always going to be because there are those who are powerful in those places, but the greatest power is with the people. The greatest power is with the people and our ability to then talk with each other and remind each other of what is actually happening and deconstruct it in a way that we can see where the dots line up in terms of where this leads to, who is actually responsible. And, you know, look, I think that part of what we have to also understand is so much of what we are experiencing now. I know it feels overwhelming. I know that it is a source of everything from great sadness, depression, to anger. It results in people rightly feeling like, you know, putting the covers over my head, wake me up when it's over. It's exhausting. It is all of that. And it feels chaotic. But here's what. But, no, it is. No, no, no. Because here's the thing. Let's not conflate what feels chaotic with what is actually a high velocity event. That is about the swift implementation of a plan that has been decades in the making. That's what we are witnessing. Project 2025 did not just fall out of the sky. The Federalist Society, the Heritage foundation, this stuff has been decades in the making. Part of what I write about is you look at the person who's in the White House right now is an interesting combination of a pattern that was taking place where it's almost. You can attribute it to Ronald Reagan's celebrity, Newt Gingrich's base level of discourse, and Pat Buchanan's nativism all piled into one. What we are.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Yes, that's not a drink you want. That is not the right cocktail.
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Kamala Harris
Think about how this path has been building over a period of time. This thing about what they're doing to try and destroy the Department of Education, school lunch programs, Head Start. This is not new. This has been part of a longstanding agenda to attack public education. What they're doing with the fcc. And I will tell you, yes, I predicted just about all of it.
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Charlamagne Tha God
I've been wanting her to say that for so long. But what I. I wanted you to tweet it in all caps. I was right about every effing thing.
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Kamala Harris
But the one thing I did not predict, I did not predict the capitulation. I did not. You know, I, among many things, am a lifelong and therefore devout public servant. I've worked with the private sector over the years doing good work, and I have always believed that if push came to shove, the titans of industry would at some point be the guardrails around our democracy. And instead, what we have seen is titans of industry bend the knee at a foot of a tyrant. One has to ask why? And I think the answer is obvious. Either it's because they heard what I said on the debate stage, that the man yields to favor and flattery. So say he should get a Nobel Peace Prize or because they want a merger approved or they want to avoid an investigation, or they just think that, I don't know, they're going to lose their house in the Hamptons and their yacht, they'll be okay. But the level of Fear. And the thing that I have to say is, whether it be members of Congress, including members of the president's own party, or those CEOs or titans of industry, this is the thing that is so troubling and disappointing, doesn't begin to explain it. They know it's not right. They know it's not right. It's not like we have to evangelize about a good number of these people who are doing nothing or are yielding. They know it's not right, but they're feckless. They are not willing to stand up and. Right, baby, that's right.
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Charlamagne Tha God
I know you said why, but why? Like, seriously, has America always been a house of cards? Have these people just been waiting for their opportunity to show who they really are? Like, what is it?
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Kamala Harris
But I do believe that it is about power. It is about power. And this is not new to America. It is probably the most blatant example in recent history. But it is. And this is why I again say, but the greatest power is with the people. And we will continue to know that and exert that. But we got some work to do that is about us kind of like getting some rest after that last election and then getting back out there. Tomorrow is a big day. No Kings rally. Right.
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Hunter
Right.
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Kamala Harris
Let's look at it in terms of. I mean, most recently, that when this. Again, the person in the White House who has just got this fragile little ego so sensitive and could not take the jokes of a political satirist.
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Maite Gomez Rejuan
So.
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Kamala Harris
Uses the fcc, a federal agency, which is the people's agency, to threaten retribution, and they take the man off the air. A political satire is. But what happened? The people spoke with your pocketbooks.
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Charlamagne Tha God
That's right. That's right.
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Kamala Harris
And Kimmel is back on the stage. Right.
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Charlamagne Tha God
By the way, I love this Kamala Harris. I mean, this is the one. Thank you.
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Eva Longoria
I'm Eva Longoria.
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Maite Gomez Rejuan
And I'm Maite Gomez Rajan.
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Eva Longoria
And on our podcast, Hungry for History, we mix two of our favorite things, food and history.
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Maite Gomez Rejuan
Ancient Athenians used to scratch names onto oyster shells, and they called these ostracon to vote politicians into exile. So our word ostracize is related to the word oyster.
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Kamala Harris
No way. Bring back the ostracon.
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Eva Longoria
And because we've got a very mi casa, es su casa kind of vibe on our show, friends always stop by.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Pretty much every entry into this side of the planet was through the El Golfo de Mexico. No, the America.
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Kamala Harris
No, the America.
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Charlamagne Tha God
El Golfo de Mexico. Continuanasie emoisi Forever and ever.
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Eva Longoria
It blows me away how progressive Mexico was in this moment. They had land reform, they had labor rights, they had education rights.
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Maite Gomez Rejuan
Mustard seeds were so valuable to the ancient Egyptians that they used to place them in their tombs for the afterlife.
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Eva Longoria
Listen to Hungry for History as part of the My Cultura Podcast Network available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Snax
What's up everybody? This is Snax from the Trap Nerds Podcast and we're bringing you the horror every week all October long.
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Tony
Kicking off this but I'll be bringing you all my greatest fear inducing horror games from Resident Evil to Solid Hill. Me and Tony bringing backfire team on Left 4 Dead 2 and we just gonna be going over some of the greats.
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Snax
Also in October we'll be talking about our favorite horror and Halloween movie and figuring out why black people always gotta die first.
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Tony
The Umbral reliquary invites any and all fool brave enough to peruse its many curiosities. But take it all sales are final. Weekly horror side quests written and narrated by yours truly with a full episode read and a commentary special and we.
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Snax
Will cap it off with Horror Movie Battle Royale, Jason versus Freddy, Michael Myers versus the Alien Thing with the Little Tongue Monster. October, we're doing it Halloween style. Listen to the Traverse Podcast from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.
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Hunter
I'm Hunter, host of Hunting for Answers on the Black Effect Podcast Network. Join me every weekday as I share bite sized stories of missing and murdered Black women and girls in America. There are several ways we can all do better at protecting black women. My contribution is shining a light on our missing sisters and amplifying their disregarded stories. Stories like Tameka Anderson. As she drove toward Galvez, she was in contact with several people talking on the phone as she made her way to what should have been a routine transaction. But Tameka never bought the car and she never returned home that day. One podcast, one Mission. Save our Girls. Join the search as we explore the chilling cases of missing and murdered Black women and girls. Listen to Hunting for Answers every weekday on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Podcast Narrator
Think back to the early 2000s. You're flipping through TV channels and then you hear this.
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Kamala Harris
I was rooting for you. We were all rooting for you. How dare you learn something from this.
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Podcast Narrator
But looking back 20 years later, that iconic show so many of us love.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Is horrifying Robyn, first of all, is too old to be starting model.
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Kamala Harris
She's huge.
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Podcast Narrator
I talked to cast, crew and producers who were there for some of the show's most shocking moments.
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Kamala Harris
If you were so rooting for her.
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Podcast Narrator
Why don't you help her with never before heard interviews? The Curse of America's Next Top Model examines why this show was so popular and where it all went wrong.
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Kamala Harris
We basically sold our souls and they got rich.
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Podcast Narrator
Listen to the Curse of America's Next Top model on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Charlamagne Tha God
When you were writing the book, did you think about the critics who say you're too overly cautious and you play it too safe?
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Kamala Harris
I didn't write it for period.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Why is it so hard for a lot of politicians to just like, defy the political script and just say what they really feel, especially in the position you were in?
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Kamala Harris
You know, first of all, I think that it's really important that people know where they stand and especially at this moment in time. And if you, if you understand where you are grounded in terms of your morals and your values and your principles, this is not a time to splice and dice words. It's a time to speak truth. And that's what people need to do. And by the way, and let's not put all the, let's not put all the responsibility only on Democrats, though, because everybody needs to speak truth. And that gets back to my point about what's happening in the Republican Party. I served in the Senate for four years. I served in Congress as a United States Senator. And I know, I know how some of these folks think and I know they know what's happening is wrong, but they're, I guess, into self preservation as their first priority over the oath they took to the Constitution of the United States. And that's it. Shame. And then, and there are other, and then there are also to make the point, they're also the ones who have decided not to run for reelection because they can't stand to be in that environment where they are suppressed talk about being silenced from going against the herd. Because one of the things that the Republican Party does very well is discipline and, you know, fall in line. They do that very well. And, you know, one could argue that that's part of the genius of their success, but I don't know if that's part of what we think of as being who we, the spirit of Americans and who we are as Americans, which is to stand up for what we believe is right and for the principles of our Constitution around equality and freedom and fairness and justice.
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Charlamagne Tha God
I guess that's what's scary when you talk about, you know, these people are thinking about self preservation because they're moving like, there's not an election next year or there's not an election in 2028. Like, they're moving like, you know what this is going to be? He's going to be here for a while.
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Kamala Harris
I don't know if that's right. I think that there are. First of all, I'd say that part of the punditry, the political pundits, that I think I would like them to think differently. I'm getting kind of bored with the whole chatter, especially on cable news. That is this whole savior complex. Who is the savior? Who is the one? Where's the Messiah? We have a lot of stars in the party. We have a lot of stars. And instead of everyone spending full time just getting themselves all twisted up about who is the one, what is the one? See that? We have so many and let's see where our riches are and go out with a sense of the fight that is grounded in what we know to be right. And instead of all these circular conversations, I find it actually, at this point, quite boring.
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Charlamagne Tha God
These pundits might be really calling for Jesus at a time like this, though.
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Kamala Harris
Well, I'm just talking about the people who are on earth right now.
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Charlamagne Tha God
How much of Kamala Harris in this book is the politician and how much is the woman who just don't give a f no more?
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Kamala Harris
I'm the same person that I've always been. And so that's just it.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Do you. We cannot hear you. We don't know what you said. Do you feel like the Democratic Party truly supported your leadership, or were they just relieved you could steady the ship after Biden stepped aside?
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Kamala Harris
Well, that's a big thing to say. The Democratic Party.
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Charlamagne Tha God
There was a Biden administration.
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Kamala Harris
Well, I write about it in the book. I write about how I felt about people in.
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Charlamagne Tha God
The answer is no, she don't feel like.
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Kamala Harris
But here's the thing. If we think about where we are now and moving forward, we have got to have the fight in us. And we have to understand that, that this is not a time for sitting around complaining about, oh, they're cheating, they're just not fair. They're not playing by the rules. We need to fight fire with fire.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Here we go.
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Kamala Harris
We need to fight fire with fire. So when I look at where the Democratic Party is today, that's what I applaud. Those who are understanding that this is not a time to try and be the ones who are holding up the standard when they are stealing our lunch. We will not compromise our values or principles. These things can coexist where we have our principles and our values. But we know how to roll up our sleeves and throw a punch instead of just taking a punch.
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Charlamagne Tha God
I wish we had some Johnnie Walker or something. Cause this is good.
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Kamala Harris
Anybody got some brown liquor?
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Charlamagne Tha God
You know what I'm saying? That's literally the only thing that, like, for me, it's like, this is the Kamala Harris we all know and we love. And this is why we like seeing you.
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Kamala Harris
Thank you.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Just be honest at a time like this. Now, another thing I want to talk about. Like, we've all seen the clips of people interrupting you at these book events, right? Please, nobody do that tonight. All right? And it always makes me wonder if they've read the book, like, the people who are in support of Palestine. Have they actually read the book? Because in the book, you call Biden's comments on Gaza inadequate and forced. What word would you use to describe the administration's role in that moment?
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Kamala Harris
I firmly believe we could have done more. We had a certain level of leverage that we did not exercise. Whether it was about what we did in terms of supplying support, at what level about speaking publicly about what we knew to be wrong. I think we could have done more and should have.
- [37:18]
Charlamagne Tha God
Did you ever feel complicit in decisions. That's right. Did you ever feel complicit in decisions that went against your conscience?
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Kamala Harris
I. The people in the administration were very clear about how I felt.
- [37:41]
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah. You wrote that Netanyahu wanted Trump in the seat across from him. Not you, not Joe. So what do you think that says about how foreign leaders really view the current administration and the Biden administration?
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Kamala Harris
I think, and I, again, for the sake of repetition, I predicted it. And it's exactly what we're seeing. I said on the debate stage, they 1 are laughing at us. If you look at it in the context of, again, a disgraceful speech that the president gave before the United Nations. He did it when he was president the first time and again was disgraceful. You look at it in terms of the whole flattery or favor. He accepted a plane, the President of the United States, from a foreign government. Remember, we all learned back in the day, what is a Trojan horse. Some people might call it a jet plane. I'd call it a Trojan horse. And let me tell you something. I spent four years flying around the world on Air Force Two, and taking very important, highly classified meetings with the Secretary of Defense, Secretary of State, generals, and others in an environment on that plane that was highly protected for those classified conversations. Because you can only imagine how much foreign governments want to have access to our classified information, which we possess in the best interest of our national security. And this man wants a big plane so bad. Cause, you know, his plane is not that big, that Trump plane, And he wants it so he can have it when he's out of office. They talk about giving it to the library. You know who's gonna be flying around on that plane.
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Charlamagne Tha God
That's right.
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Kamala Harris
And this is on top of. Remember, early on, they were using Signal Charlemagne to plan out war plans. We would get ourselves out of bed in the middle of the night, all of us, wherever we were, to go to what is called a scif, which is a secure facility, or go to the Situation Room to have those conversations. These people are so lazy that they're sitting back texting each other about war plans and then. So dumb to not know. Reporters in the text chain with our national security interest at stake. And if it weren't so incredibly harmful, it would be the thing of a great comedy sketch.
- [41:05]
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, it will be in the future.
- [41:06]
Kamala Harris
But it's ext. And this is the thing about.
- [41:12]
Maite Gomez Rejuan
Having.
- [41:13]
Kamala Harris
People who don't fully appreciate the strength and power and therefore solemn responsibility that comes with these positions, that it is not about them. It is about you. It is about us. It is about we, the people. And that is what is so tragic. Put aside personalities, put aside egos, or lack thereof. The matters that we are discussing are of such a grave and important nature that to have people who do not understand that they possess the power in the public trust and to instead be convinced of their personal entitlement is so incredibly dangerous to who we are as a country. Well, let's save each other. We're here to save each other. We are doing this together. We have midterms coming up, and we have local, state, and federal elections. And this is a time for us. We cannot afford to. Let's never let anybody take our power from us. Let's never let anybody or situation take our power from us. It is ours. And whether it is just re. Or amping up the engagement with our friends, our neighbors, our cousins and play cousins, whether it be what we do to, you know, be more active in our church or where we pray, whether it be to get more involved in nonprofit organizations which are so thinly spread right now, and being attacked by this administration and then, and then being a part of whether it be peaceful protest or are getting involved in the next election cycle, let's not cede our power. Let's not cede our power because then they win. We cannot let our spirit be defeated. Then they win. So that's the charge for us all. We will get through this. But I cannot guarantee it won't get worse before it gets better. Right. So let's be clear eyed, how much.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Worse do you think it could get?
- [43:46]
Kamala Harris
I mean God only knows. Every day something is happening, happening every single day. And so I don't know how much worse it can get, but we should assume it's going to get worse and maybe much worse. And so let's be braced to some extent. But the other thing that is so critically important for us and for the young people in our lives is to not allow them to have us normalize this. There is nothing normal about what is happening right now. Nothing normal.
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Charlamagne Tha God
That is a great point, but I mean a lot of these young people don't have anything else to compare it to. So that's the scariest part, right? Like this is their normal. They may just accept it as such.
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Kamala Harris
That's right. And that's where we have a collective responsibility to help them know otherwise. I just met with a young group of brilliant young people here in Birmingham this afternoon and they were talking with me for example about the fact that their main source of information is online. They're not reading legacy media at all. They're not reading the paper, whether it be online or otherwise. Most of what they are also receiving his video. But good for them. And they were between about age 18 and 22 and they are, this was something that again my optimism. They know that they are being fed information that is for a large part inaccurate. They know it. And so what they're asking is where can they go for accurate information? And that's the charge that each of us has, right? And then it is, you know, whether it be what we're reading, whether it be Associated Press, New York Times, other what we have, you know, those of us of an older generation who are not, let's say Gen Z, that's where we have an added responsibility, as we always will have to those who are coming up to share with them our knowledge not only about fact but also history, especially when there are full on attacks to rewrite history and revise history according to their perspective on what we should be teaching.
- [46:20]
Charlamagne Tha God
I want to go back to Palestine for one second because you said something in the book and I've been wanting to ask you this. How did you emotionally reconcile working in an administration that, in your words, didn't fully express empathy for Palestinians?
- [46:35]
Kamala Harris
It was very difficult. I mean, I. So I was in conversations where, for example, you know, five months into the war, I gave a speech at the foot of the Edmund Pettus Bridge on the commemoration of Bloody Sunday. And I write about this. I gave a speech and I was the first at the highest level of our administration to talk about the fact that Palestinians were starving. And it was not received well within the White House that I did that. I spoke of Ceasefire five. This was a year and a half ago, at least. And I. I couldn't not speak about it as much as I could. But I'm. I was not president. I would be in conversations where, for example, about the, the starvation issue, you know, early on it became very clear that there was no running water or clean water. And then people would start. And this was when Israel was allowing. The government of Israel, let me say, the government of Israel was allowing humanitarian aid. And I would say, look. So they would talk about this many tons of flour. And I literally said in one of the meetings, look, I cook. So let me tell you, you can't do a thing with flour if you don't have water. So what are we talking about in terms of what are they actually eating? To be very specific about it, I asked, like, what are women doing around their monthly needs? And usually it was a room full of men who don't have never experienced monthly needs that way.
- [48:46]
Charlamagne Tha God
I would hope not. That would be different.
- [48:49]
Kamala Harris
Well, but you understand my point. So it was, it was, it was very challenging.
- [48:56]
Charlamagne Tha God
Is that one of the most challenging things when, you know, you have all of these people out here who believe in you and want to support you, and they don't know what it is you're doing behind the scenes? Like, behind the scenes, you're having these fights. Behind the scenes, you're having these, you know, discussions, but the people don't know that.
- [49:13]
Kamala Harris
Right. And that is sadly, the nature of the work that I do and have done, that not everything I know. Can I speak, especially if it's obviously of a classified nature. Plus, as I write, it is very important, I believe, that in the relationship between the President and vice president, that there be a safe zone of having conversations that are not going to be shared. And I maintain that that is very important.
- [49:46]
Charlamagne Tha God
But what about when, you know the president is dead wrong? What about what, what about when, you know the president is just dead wrong?
- [49:53]
Kamala Harris
Well, if There is a disagreement, then there has to be candor in that. And that's what I engage in.
- [50:08]
Eva Longoria
I'm Eva Longoria.
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Maite Gomez Rejuan
And I'm Maite Gomez Rejuan.
- [50:11]
Eva Longoria
And on our podcast Hungry for History, we mix two of our favorite things. Food and history.
- [50:17]
Maite Gomez Rejuan
Ancient Athenians used to scratch names onto oyster shells and they called these ostrakon to vote politicians into exile. So our word ostracized is related to the word oyster.
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Kamala Harris
No way. Bring back the Oster con.
- [50:33]
Eva Longoria
And because we've got a very mi casa esucasa kind of vibe on our show, friends always stop by.
- [50:40]
Charlamagne Tha God
Pretty much every entry into this side of the planet was through the El Golf of Mexico. No, the America.
- [50:47]
Kamala Harris
No, the America.
- [50:49]
Charlamagne Tha God
El Golfo de Mexico continuing forever and ever.
- [50:53]
Eva Longoria
It blows me away how progressive Mexico was in this, in this moment. They had land reform, they had labor rights, they had education rights.
- [51:01]
Maite Gomez Rejuan
Mustard seeds were so valuable to the ancient Egyptians that they used to place them in their tombs for the afterlife.
- [51:08]
Eva Longoria
Listen to Hungry for History as part of the My Cultura Podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Snax
What's up everybody? This is snacks from the Trap Nerds podcast and we're bringing you the horror every week all October long.
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Tony
Kicking off this month, I'll be bringing you all my greatest fear inducing horror games from Resident Evil to Solid Hill. Me and Tony bringing backfireteam on Left 4 Dead 2 and we just gonna be going over some of the greats.
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Snax
Also in October we'll be talking about our favorite horror and Halloween movie and figuring out why black people always gotta die first.
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Tony
The Umbral reliquary invites any and all fool brave enough to peruse its many curiosities. But take it all sales are final. Weekly horror side quests written and narrated by yours truly with a full episode read and a commentary special.
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Snax
And we will cap it off with Horror movie Battle Royale. Jason versus Freddy, Michael Myers versus the Alien thing with the little tongue Monster. October, we're doing it Halloween style. Listen to the Traverse Podcast from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.
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Hunter
I'm Hunter, host of Hunting for Answers on the Black Effect Podcast Network. Join me every weekday as I share bite sized stories of missing and murdered black women and girls in America. There are several ways we can all do better at protecting black women. My contribution is shining a light on our missing sisters and amplifying their disregarded stories. Stories like Tameka Anderson. As she drove toward Galvez, she was in contact with several people talking on the phone as she made her way to what should have been a routine transaction. But Tameka never bought the car, and she never returned home that day. One podcast, one mission. Save our Girls. Join the search as we explore the chilling cases of missing and murdered black women and girls. Listen to hundreds of for answers every weekday on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Podcast Narrator
Think back to the early 2000s. You're flipping through TV channels and then you hear this.
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Kamala Harris
I was rooting for you. We were all rooting for you. How dare you learn something from this.
- [53:34]
Podcast Narrator
But looking back 20 years later, that iconic show so many of us love is horrifying.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Robyn, first of all, is too old to be starting model.
- [53:46]
Kamala Harris
She's huge.
- [53:47]
Podcast Narrator
I talked to cast, crew and producers who were there for some of the show's most shocking moments.
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Kamala Harris
If you were so rooting for her.
- [53:54]
Podcast Narrator
Why don't you help her with never before heard interviews? The Curse of America's Next Top Model examines why this show was so popular. Popular and where it all went wrong.
- [54:05]
Kamala Harris
We basically sold our souls and they got rich.
- [54:10]
Podcast Narrator
Listen to the Curse of America's Next Top model on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Charlamagne Tha God
You know Governor Josh Shapiro, you talk about, you talk about him in the book and you said that you, you feel like he might be overly ambitious. Am I using the right words?
- [54:31]
Kamala Harris
That's not what I said. That's a characteristic.
- [54:37]
Charlamagne Tha God
But he might have. What was the word? What was.
- [54:40]
Kamala Harris
Open the book.
- [54:41]
Charlamagne Tha God
I think it was. I thought it was overly ambitious. Oh, yes. Yep. Yes. Too ambitious. Maybe.
- [54:54]
Kamala Harris
Refer to the words I actually used and then get to your point.
- [54:59]
Charlamagne Tha God
The point is really more so about you, though. Like, you know, that's some of the things that the criticism they had about you is that you might be too ambitious. And you know, the president always had to watch his back.
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Kamala Harris
So there is a saying in the White House. Lore has it, whether it's true or not, it's, it is repeated over many administrations and years, which is that the outgoing chief of staff of the President of the United States will say to the incoming chief of staff to the incoming President of the United States, regardless of party rule number one, watch the vice president. And as I write in the book, part of the, the dynamic that I was aware of coming into the White House as vice president was I had obviously run against the president and that there May still be not on his behalf, but others. Some hard feelings about that. But here's how I feel about the subject that you are raising, which is ambition. I applaud ambition in people. And I think that part of the challenge that we face is to look at someone, especially our young people, and say their ambition is a bad thing. As though it is a fault of character instead of a strength of character to suggest that somehow if someone has ambition, we've conflated ambition with blind ambition. Somehow it's bad. I encourage people to have ambition. I think it is a good thing. I think it's part of the American spirit to believe in what is possible. To go for it, to roll up your sleeves. You know, I have lived my career and tried to live my career where I don't hear no, I hear no. Maybe the 10th time. I like to joke. I eat no for breakfast. I've mentored a lot of people over the years, including now. And I tell them you don't. And you know, somebody actually has the sweatshirt with one of the sayings from my mother on it, which is, you don't ever let anybody tell you who you are. You tell them who you are. Right. I think that is a good thing. So there you go.
- [57:26]
Charlamagne Tha God
And I mean, you should scare people when you walk in the room.
- [57:31]
Kamala Harris
Do I scare you? Yes.
- [57:33]
Charlamagne Tha God
You know that. What you talking about? What you mean?
- [57:37]
Kamala Harris
I'm not trying to scare people. I'm not trying to scare people at all.
- [57:41]
Charlamagne Tha God
Have you spoken to President Biden? Has he read the book?
- [57:44]
Kamala Harris
I have talked to him, yeah. I mean, he's most recently. And we should all say a prayer for his strong and full recovery. He's battling cancer right now. And he is a fighter. He is a fighter.
- [58:03]
Charlamagne Tha God
So how did he feel about you telling your truth?
- [58:06]
Kamala Harris
I think he has. I think he's been actually very supportive of me telling my truth. Joe Biden is a good man. He's a very good man. He really is. He really is. And he was a good president. And he was a good president.
- [58:28]
Charlamagne Tha God
How did. How did you reconcile protecting President Biden as. As your friend, but also protecting, you know, the country as a leader? Meaning that, you know, when you saw things starting to slip, you know, I didn't.
- [58:43]
Kamala Harris
What? I don't know what you're talking about, Charlie.
- [58:45]
Charlamagne Tha God
Well, President Biden, him as a human.
- [58:48]
Kamala Harris
I. I did not see him start to slip. In what way? That's not what I. What I talk about is about let's. Again, at that moment where everyone was just piling on Him I was not about to participate in piling on, number one. Number two, that don't. Let's not mistake whether someone has the ability to govern versus the vigor that one might want in a candidate for election, because those are two different things. And I never questioned, nor do I, on reflection, his capacity to have been president.
- [59:31]
Charlamagne Tha God
But you did say in the book that you didn't think his decision to run again should have just been his and his alone.
- [59:36]
Kamala Harris
That's a different point. Yes. Huh. I did.
- [59:40]
Charlamagne Tha God
So with that said, how do you reconcile being his friend but also knowing what's best for the country.
- [59:47]
Kamala Harris
What's best for the country in the context of an election is what you mean. I think that he. I said what I meant. Which is on reflection, I think that there. That it was. We should have. And I. And I'll take. I'm going to speak for myself that I perhaps should have said something to him about that, suggesting he reconsider running. And there are a number of reasons I did not including that I did believe that to do that would come off as being very self serving and therefore not effective. But it was a conversation that should have been had.
- [60:39]
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah. You said you thought it would be self serving.
- [60:44]
Kamala Harris
Yes. I'm vice President of the United States at the time.
- [60:46]
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, but you actually would be looking out for the needs of the country.
- [60:50]
Kamala Harris
I'm talking about how it would be interpreted.
- [60:52]
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, got you, got you, got you, got you, got you, got you, got you.
- [60:56]
Kamala Harris
And therefore, would it have been an effective conversation? I don't believe that you have a conversation just because you want to get something off of your chest. You also have to, I think, be engaged in. Is it going to be productive? And that was my point.
- [61:12]
Charlamagne Tha God
Another thing I got from the book, especially early on. Do you feel like you are loyal to a default? At least in this situation.
- [61:21]
Kamala Harris
I am a loyal person and I don't apologize for that. But it can be, I suppose, a weakness, but it's my nature.
- [61:32]
Maite Gomez Rejuan
Right.
- [61:33]
Charlamagne Tha God
I got a couple audience questions.
- [61:34]
Kamala Harris
Okay.
- [61:36]
Charlamagne Tha God
Sherrelle Garrell. She says the Voting Rights act has long symbolized.
- [61:40]
Kamala Harris
It's Sherrell.
- [61:41]
Charlamagne Tha God
Did I pronounce your name right? Sherrell.
- [61:43]
Kamala Harris
There you are.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Hi, it's Sherrell. Sherelle. Sherrell Garrel. The Voting Rights act has long symbolized the promise of equal access to democracy. As those protections are being rolled back, how do we ensure that our generation doesn't just defend that promise, but strengthens it?
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Kamala Harris
Mm. So I think everyone saw. And if not, I'd invite everyone over the weekend if you have some time to take a look at those arguments before the Supreme Court this week, they're trying to wholesale get rid of the Voting Rights Act. And I have to say to you as a young leader that part of your legacy being here in Birmingham is that it is young leaders who imagined and dreamed that you would be here right now that are from this region and from this place that are the reason that we got the Voting Rights act in the first place. And it is part of your legacy to fight to maintain as best as we can those protections. But right now we are witnessing a reversal of those hard fought rights that the American people should have to have access to the polls as a way to express their voice through their vote about the future of their country and their government. The arguments that happened in the United States Supreme Court this week, I've just started to review them. I'm going to try and spend some time this weekend reading it in whole. But it's outrageous and it's basically around a case out of Louisiana where I believe there are six congressional seats in Louisiana. And I believe that the local they decided in Louisiana that they only had one that had a black representative to Congress and they would expand it to two. And now there are a bunch of plaintiffs saying no that the Voting Rights Act Section 2 should not apply and get rid of that which will affect, it is estimated of I'm going to get the number approximately right. But just under about 10 Democratic seats will be wiped out if where we think the ruling is headed actually goes to that place. And that's where it's going to be about you and all of us as leaders, regardless of our age, to stand up in particular around what we do around local elections, congressional elections to fight for these protections because they are very much under attack right now. And it's a crying shame. It's a crying shame when again to your point, Charlamagne, they're so blatantly and unapologetically trying to roll back the advances we've made in civil rights. And again, this suggestion that civil rights are just for some, they're for all of us. Everybody benefits when each other's civil rights are protected. Everyone benefits. And that's part of the scapegoating and gaslighting that's happening right now. So we're counting on you. And I know you. I've just put a heavy burden on you. Welcome to the club and I'm glad you're here. Thank you.
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Charlamagne Tha God
You know, you mentioned the Supreme Court. Why do we still act like they're a legitimate institution.
- [65:22]
Kamala Harris
Because we want them to be. Because we want them to be. But you're right, I mean, this is about. Back to the point about this has been decades in the making. We are where we are because of an agenda that has been about longstanding, gerrymandering, taking over state houses, manipulating who receives judicial appointments. This is all we are seeing. Like I said, the implementation of a plan that has been a long time in the making. And we have to see where it is heading to know where we have to head. And that includes, for example, I think part of the mistake, at least in hindsight, is we drop the ball on what was happening at a local and state level. And that's part of the price we're paying. And that relates to everything from who you elect as your local sheriff to mayor to governor to your state house representatives and what we all need to do. And I think we have allowed. And I'm not. It's all of us. I'm not pointing a finger at anyone in particular. But the future of our democracy is not only going to be determined by who sits in the White House. It is all of these positions. And therefore we do have power at a local level. We do have school board elections, for goodness sakes. So important when we think about the future of where we're putting resources in the education of our children. And are we actually teaching them about the history of the Voting Rights Act? And are we teaching them about the history of who we are, not to mention civics around 3 CO/ of government, to your point, and the need for the safeguards and the backstops.
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Charlamagne Tha God
I'm gonna go back to the audience questions. Cause we running out of time. But if Democrats knew what Republicans were planning all of these years, where was the defense? If you knew what their offense was gonna be, where was the defense?
- [67:42]
Kamala Harris
I think that we have to see what happened and know what we need to do in the future. I think you're right. I mean, one could argue. How could this just. How could this happen? Yes, I think that's a fair question. I think that's a fair question because.
- [67:56]
Charlamagne Tha God
Y' all talking about Project 2025. What if January 1st coming, we get a 2026 and then the Project 2027 and the Project 2028, they might have.
- [68:03]
Kamala Harris
This whole thing planned. You are absolutely correct. And that's why the moment, the present moment requires us to be active and see what's right in front of us and deal with that with an eye toward where we need to go. For example, Part of what I have been thinking a lot about in terms of where we are now in the future, I think a lot about Gen Z and I'll tell you why. First of all they are Gen Z as a population of people demographically are larger in number than boomers. So boomers handle that there are more of them. They are between about age 13 and 27, 28. And then think about them as a generation. They've only known the climate crisis. Incredibly important phases of their education because of the pandemic were taken from them. Brown education, socialization. If you think about the pandemic in terms of the statistics, which I believe is still true, 1 in 4 black Americans lost a family member to Covid. And what that meant in terms of trauma experienced in a family, you look at it in terms of the fact that it is estimated Gen Z, when they graduate, be it high school or college, will probably have up to 10 to 12 jobs in their lifetime. Previous generations we could expect when we came out of high school, came out of college, we'd have one job and that's where we would retire. So many of our students, if they're in college, for example, they're not sure if what they're studying now by the day they graduate, be that next year or in three or four years will actually lead to an employable job and work. And so I say all that to say that they are having a very specific experience. They are also, as I have come to know them and have members of that generation in my family, incredibly impatient. They are not sitting around waiting for us to figure it out and they have a stake in what's happening right now. Part of what I think about the future of the Democratic Party as it relates to Gen Z, I actually am here to say I believe that part of what we need to do to fix things is lower the voting age to 16. I think we should sit with that for a minute. I see some people need to. I think we should lower the national voting age to 16 because if we are talking with our young people about what is important, they will tell us everything that is about tomorrow and the next 5 and 10 and 20 years. They'll lay it all out for us. They are not invested in the way things have been. They are not benefiting from tradition or status quo as it has existed, existed for decades. They're right now present and very clear eyed about how we need to address the future. And if we give them the power to make decisions about who is in elected office and allow them to help inform the priorities. I think our future is brighter.
- [71:44]
Charlamagne Tha God
Wow.
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Kamala Harris
I think our future is brighter.
- [71:47]
Charlamagne Tha God
I had another audience question. Her name is Lindsey Hall. She's 17. But I feel like you already answered it. Cause her question was, I have always been afraid of speaking up first. So what advice would you give young women like myself who want to lead but feel afraid of being labeled too ambitious?
- [72:02]
Kamala Harris
Where are you?
- [72:03]
Charlamagne Tha God
Where you at, Lindsey?
- [72:05]
Kamala Harris
Where? Wait, let's see. Where is where. Wait, turn the. You up there. Oh, there you are.
- [72:15]
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, she all the way up there. Wow.
- [72:16]
Kamala Harris
She's right there.
- [72:18]
Charlamagne Tha God
What's up, Lindsay?
- [72:19]
Kamala Harris
Okay, first of all, can we all applaud, Lindsay, please, for being here? So, first thing first, I want you to hear and remember what you just heard and hold onto it, which is you may be the first to do many things. You may be alone in many rooms where you're the only one like you. And everybody else around the table is different than you in terms of their life experience or how they look. And I want you to never feel alone and always know and hear in your heart and soul the applause you just heard to know that there are a whole lot of people that are encouraging your ambition and encouraging you to have the energy and the excitement. Excitement about doing things that are about making this world better. See? So don't ever allow yourself to be limited in terms of what you think you are capable of based on other people's limited ability to see what's possible. Don't let their limitations be yours. Don't ever let. Let their limitations be yours. Okay, lecture over. I'm glad you're here.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Listen, this has been a great conversation. We're over time, but I want to make sure we close by continuing to talk about the fight ahead. Right. Like during the campaign, you would end your speech. You're saying, when we fight, we win. And in your highway speech, you acknowledge that sometimes the fight takes a while.
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Kamala Harris
That's right.
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Charlamagne Tha God
What does that fight look like now? What weapons should we be using?
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Kamala Harris
We should be using the weapon. The power of our voice, of our vote, of our pocketbook. We should be using the strength. I think of it as strength. Right? The strength of our ability to create community. You know, so many people right now, there's so much fear. So much fear. And so many people are feeling attacked and are being attacked.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Literally.
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Kamala Harris
Yes. People are on edge, Charlemagne. And I think one of the counteractions to that is us doing everything we can to create and reinforce community. Like, I'd ask you, if you don't know the person sitting next to you just. Just look at them and say, how you doing?
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Maite Gomez Rejuan
Right.
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Eva Longoria
You know.
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Kamala Harris
We'Re in church, but. Right. Just let's. Yeah. You know, what we can be doing is to remind each other we're not alone. We are all in this together. And that's our power, and that's our weapon among these people that are trying to divide our country and turn American against each other. Because part of what I'd add, Charlemagne is, I think part of what we have to fight against right now is there is an incredible amount of mist and distrust in our world right now. And there's an incredible amount of distrust between the American people of each other. And that distrust is not only about what people are worried about and, you know, can I lock my front door? But a concern about whether can I trust that you are not a threat to my very existence. That's part of what's happening in our country right now. And the great antidote and can counteraction to that, I believe, is to keep working in community with a sense of the collective. And so that's our power, and that's the power that we have that we should use every day. Yeah.
- [76:32]
Charlamagne Tha God
Make some noise for offering ever Vice President. I like what that young lady called you. She called you big sister General. I like that. Let's. So listen. Make some noise again for Kamala Harris, y'.
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Snax
All.
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Eva Longoria
I'm Eva Longoria.
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Maite Gomez Rejuan
And I'm Maite Gomez Jejun. And this week on our podcast, Hungry for History, we talk oysters. Plus, the Miami chief stops by.
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Charlamagne Tha God
If you are not an oyster lover, don't even talk to me.
- [77:05]
Maite Gomez Rejuan
Ancient Athenians used to scratch names onto oyster shells to vote politicians into exile. So our word ostracize is related to the word oyster.
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Kamala Harris
No way. Bring back the ostracon.
- [77:19]
Eva Longoria
Listen to Hungry for history on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Snax
What's up, everybody? It's snacks from the Trapped nerds. All October long, we're bringing you the horror.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Boogity, boogity, boogity.
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Tony
We kicking off this month with some of my best horror games to keep you terrified.
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Snax
Then we'll be talking about our favorite horror and Halloween movies and figuring out why black people always die first.
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Tony
And it's the return of Tony's horror show side Quest, written and narrated by yours truly. We'll also be doing a full episode reading with commentary, and we'll cap it.
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Snax
Off with a horror movie battle Royale. Open your free iHeartRadio app and search Trapped Nerds podcast and listen now short.
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Hunter
On time, but big on true crime. On a recent episode of the podcast Hunting for Answers, I highlighted the story of 19 year old Lachey Dungey. But she never knocked on that door. She never made it inside. And that text message would be the last time anyone would ever hear from her. Listen to Hunting for Answers from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [78:26]
Lauren LaRosa
I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything and everybody.
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Kamala Harris
Lauren LaRosa.
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Charlamagne Tha God
You hear that Exclusive Lauren came in hot.
- [78:35]
Kamala Harris
I came in telling the truth.
- [78:37]
Lauren LaRosa
Every day I'm bringing you the latest in entertainment, breaking down the headlines you can't stop talking about and giving you my very unfiltered take on the biggest stories in the industry. From exclusive news. And y' all know I got it to us breaking down the interviews. Cause y' all are my co hosts. Now I'm giving you the deep dives on some of the biggest moments in pop culture.
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Snax
Oh my God.
- [78:57]
Lauren LaRosa
Listen to the latest with Lauren, the Rosa weekdays on the the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.
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Kamala Harris
This is an iHeart podcast.