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Chelsea Handler Speaks Out, Kevin Hart Stays Quiet & Quinta Brunson Revives Betty Boop
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Lauren LaRosa
This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.
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Jonas Brothers
Hey guys, it's us, the Jonas brothers.
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Lauren LaRosa
I'm Joe.
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Jonas Brothers
I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called hey Jonas.
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Lauren LaRosa
We invented a podcast.
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Jonas Brothers
Well, we didn't invent it, we just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts.
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Lauren LaRosa
We get to ask other people questions.
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Jonas Brothers
Cause we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but you know, tired and sick. Tired and sick. Listen to hey Jonas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.
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Lauren LaRosa
Let's get to it.
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Quinta Brunson
Time to do it.
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Lauren LaRosa
I'm the home girl that knows a little bit about everything and everybody exclusive. You know she don't lie about that, right?
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Jonas Brothers
Lauren came in hot.
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Lauren LaRosa
All, what's up? It's Lauren LaRosa. And this is another episode of the Latest with Lauren LaRosa. This is your daily dig on all things pop culture, entertainment news, and all of the conversations that shake the room, baby. Now, y' all know we always kick off our episodes here at the Latest with Lauren LaRosa with a check in behind the scenes of the grind. Back on the grind. Checking in behind the scenes of the grind. Today, I am preparing for family to come in town. Y' all know how that goes. Like, whenever you're hosting, you just, I feel like you think about everything that could possibly, like, not go the way it normally goes when you're home alone. But when family comes in town, it's like things just pop up. And you know, when people come in town and you're hosting them, you want everything to be, like, smooth. You want them to be comfortable. You want them to have a good time. So I, I mean, I, I, I did the grocery shopping thing, things clean. Like, I've done all the things last week when I had the time, knowing that this week would be kind of crazy. But I'm still sitting here thinking of, like, little things that I'm not for sure if I like, have or if I have set up or if I have ready. So just a little anxiousness around that. And I don't even know why I'm anxious about that because some, some of my coming up, they're, they're excited. They want to go to watch the Breakfast Club tape. But some of my family that is doing that, they've already been here to my home. So, yeah, I don't know, it's just first, this is like jitters. I was going to say first time jitters, but again, it's not first time, but it's just like jitters a little bit. But I'm excited, though, to even be able to be at the place where like, you know, back home, closer to family and able to have family come up, spend a night, get the experience. Like, what a day in my life is. Like, what a day in my world is like, that was like always something for me that when I was living in la, that I really, really missed, and not even missed because I never had it before I moved to la. I was right out of college, so it's not like I had, you know, apartment homes set up, people could come to and all that. I was figuring out life, but I just knew that it was something that I wanted. Being a person that's, like, so family oriented and family, like, you know, like, I. I rely a lot on my family, but I. I've always wanted to be able to, like, host them, have them come up, come over. And that's why I'm actually looking forward to buying a home somewhere in the New York area. I am really excited to get started on that. Every time my family is talking about coming to visit me and stuff in my apartment, it makes me be like, all right, this is amazing, but, like, wait until I buy a home and I could do, like, the family cookouts at my house and stuff like that. And as I was thinking about all this today, I'm like, girl, you are really an adult now. Like, you are, like, getting excited to buy patio furniture so that people can sit out on the patio and, like, have a good time and, you know, like, that type of thing. I'm like, sister, girl, you getting old now. Like, it's just there. Like, the time is there. Oh, my God, Lauren, you're 34. Wow. And there are some people listening to this that are probably like, girl, you are a baby. But I don't know, in my mind, 34 in the way I thought about it. Like, in. In 35, it was really 35 for me. Like, I remember being younger and thinking about what I would be doing and what I would have happening at 35. Like, I. I thought I was going to be married by now. Children in a home. Like, it just felt so grown when I wasn't this age, like, when I was younger. And now I'm this age and I don't feel like an adult yet. Like, I feel so not fully responsible and still putting the pieces to the puzzle, but I'm doing grown things. So, yeah, today I was going down that whole rabbit hole of like, girl, you really the auntie. You gonna be showing up with box wine next? Okay, now let's get on into the latest. Let's talk about some things. Okay, now let's get right into it. So Chelsea Handler, a comedian, talk show host, podcaster, actress, sat down with Dion Cole, also comedian, actor. Y' all know Dion Cole. Funny to know you, which is his podcast that he does. And it in this podcast, I really love his Show. It's a sit down, one on one segment. It's literally, it's very chill, though. Like, he has a variety of guests, everybody from comedians to actors to musicians to just, you know, friends of his in the business, in the industry. They sit on the couch, reflect through moments. But I feel like on this show, the moments that are the best are when he has comedians there, number one. But comedians of a certain era or genre. So Chelsea Handler, when I saw her on the show, I wasn't surprised to see her, but I was interested to see how the conversation was going to go. Because I think the pocket I love to see Deon Cole in is when he talks to, like, the Tichina Arnold. I love to hear him in that pocket of like, you know, like that Def Comedy Jam old school. Like. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I. I think I get so much out of his guests because they're not guests to him, even though they are. They're colleagues and they share stories differently. Like, it's just like a really good conversation sometimes. His show to me is like, it's the black OG comic sit down version of like, what drink champs is to hip hop, if that makes sense. Don't get what I'm saying. Okay. But anyway, Chelsea Handler's on the show and Deon can talk to anybody. He's one of those people who can talk to anybody. So the conversation was great. Go check it out if you have not already. But she got into the roast and she talked about the fact that she did not like the racist jokes at the roast. And I mean, she's a white comedian, so let's take a listen. I mean, did you like the shit they were saying up there, though? Like, no.
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Chelsea Handler
I mean, it was.
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Chelsea Handler
It was gross. There's no. I don't find those jokes to be funny. Jokes about lynching black people or like, lynching is not a joke. Is not. That's worse than rape. Like, you're not joking about rape, are you? Are you saying, I'm going to go rape you? You know, you can't do that, but you can say lynching. Like, I find that to be. I don't know. You know, people are like, it's a roast. You go for it. I'm like, you can go for it without being gross. Like, I find that to be gross. I found them making fun of Cheryl Underwood's like, dead husband who committed suic, like, skin color. You know, she's fine with that. If she says she's fine with that, she's fine with That I wasn't fine with that. I thought that was disgusting too. But there was so much disgustingness that I knew it was going to be such a, like, gross vibe that I would be able to elevate it no problem. And that's what I want to do.
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Lauren LaRosa
I don't know if I was surprised to hear her say that or not. Like, a part of me wasn't surprised to hear her say that because I don't know, like, I don't know how to describe it. Like, I saw some people in the comments of this post when it started to go viral. Like, Chelsea Handler has always been invited to the cookout. And I don't really know how I feel about that whole cookout invite thing. I feel like sometimes we just let people do things a little bit too much and that's how we end up in situations where people are joking about things like George Floyd and his death. But Chelsea Handler has never given me, like, all right, so you got like white, like, all right, there's white people, right? Like, y' all know it's the white people in the world. You got white. White people who are very oblivious to what is happening outside of their bubble of whiteness and privilege. Chelsea Handler has never given me that. I mean, not just because she didn't had a couple black men run through her. That's not Shay. She talks about it openly and they joked about it at the Rose, but she's just never given me, like, you know, to be a person opposite black culture who isn't aware of the fact that she enjoys our culture, that there's a respect level that should be there for our culture, but also that she, she. She understands she's a white woman in the world and what that comes with and, and you know what I mean, all those things, right? So I wasn't surprised because she's always struck me as that, but I was surprised because, I don't know, I'll be feeling like when it comes to like, white entertainers, or not even just white entertainers, but non black entertainers in mainstream media spaces, one of the things I feel like they do very well is like, they don't have to like, ever be like, called out about anything to the point where they feel like they have to actually answer to it. I mean, and if they do, they have this, they have this. The way that they maneuver through the world and through society where it's like, I mean, when Louis CK was canceled, when Kevin Spacey was canceled, right? Like, statements were put out, things were said, but like, they still maneuver through the world as if somebody owed them something. And so hearing her just volunteer the fact that, like, oh, no, they were on bullshit and should be held accountable for it, I don't know, I just didn't expect to hear that because of that, that notion, especially in Hollywood, because of all of the powers that being. Y' all know that whole conversation about, you know, what is the minority and the majority in Hollywood, I don't know. I just. It kind of. It just surprised me a little bit just to hear her call them out, but it, it didn't surprise me. At the same time, now, they didn't get into a conversation about how she felt seeing black people laugh at the joke, Kevin Hart included. Let's take a listen. When you see other black people laughing at that, does it make you go, all right, whatever. Or do you. Or do you think to yourself, what the fuck are they laughing at? That fuck.
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Chelsea Handler
I mean, I'm not here to tell black people what's funny about black jokes. Like, no, I'm not here in the world to do that. Like, I know enough to just. That's my opinion. I don't like that. I also don't like the N word, but I have plenty of black friends who toss that around all the time. It's not my place to say, oh, that word makes me feel uncomfortable. You know, black people are allowed to do whatever they want. If Kevin thinks that's funny, he thinks that's funny. I don't think it's funny.
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Lauren LaRosa
Thought her answer was brilliant. Stay in your lane. Understand what you can and can't do. Why not? You know, I love it. Chef's kiss to her understanding that ain't none of your business at all. We appreciate an ally, but we don't need a white savior. And that is not what she's on. And that's why I appreciate, you know, the way that she went about this. Now I will say I'm very interested to hear from Kevin Hart. No one has heard from Kevin Hart in any of this outside of the thank you that he posted the day after the roast where it kind of talked a little bit about the backlash he was receiving for some of the racist joke that were jokes that were made by the white comedians. Let's take a listen.
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Kevin Hart
That, my friend, is what the rooster is supposed to be. It's goddamn hard hitting, relentless jokes with no consequence. Shout out to every comedian that came on that stage. They all understood the assignment, man. There's no emotions attached to a roast. You tell your jokes and we Understand that they gonna come with some heat. It's all in the efforts of being funny. It's that I love you, but this
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Lauren LaRosa
was literally like the day after the roast. The roast is almost two weeks old now and we're still having a conversation about it. And no one's really heard anything directly from Kevin Hart. So I'm interested to hear how he feels because it seems like a lot of the people literally there on the stage were just as uncomfortable as some of the people watching it. But, I mean, but there are people that are like jokes or jokes, you know what I'm saying? So, yes,
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Jonas Brothers
Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news? Huge news. We created our own podcast called hey Jonas.
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Lauren LaRosa
We invented a podcast.
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Jonas Brothers
Well, we didn't invent it.
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Lauren LaRosa
We.
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Jonas Brothers
We just contributed to First People to do podcasts. Pretty. Yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts, but this one's extra special. So how did we. How do we actually come up with the name hey Jonas? Guys, I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. And, well, we were thinking, I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers was. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes, I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing a bit for the podcast. People could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, hey Jonas. And offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that. Guys, listen to hey Jonas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.
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Lauren LaRosa
Moving on. Right. Speaking of Hollywood, the mainstream, the conversations, it was announced that Krinta Brunson, my girl, oh, he got money. She didn't. Came a long way from that viral video. She is going to be starring in and developing a new Betty Boop movie that is going to be coming to theaters. Now. She's her and her production company called Fifth Chance Productions, is partnering with Mark Fleischer, who is the grandson of Betty Brook creator Max Fleischer and Fleischer Studios on the project. Now, this is important because Max Fleischer, some, many, many, many, many years ago, was actually a part of the legal proceedings that went down when the original Betty Boop idea was being contested in court about where the inspiration came from. Now, a lot of you guys are, you know, are probably sitting here like, wait, what? How Is Quentin Brunson going to be the Betty Boop character? Wasn't Betty Boop oh, white girl Baby? No, this is a. I love this because I feel like the history behind Betty Boop, the history behind the conversation of Betty Boop will actually get. It's just due in a theater. So Esther Jones, AKA Baby Esther, is a black woman who is literally known as the inspiration for Betty Boop, but sadly enough, not known amongst the masses as this. So Esther Jones or Baby Esther, she was a child performer and she would do the Cotton Clubs within, like the 1930s era, right? And when she would go and do the Cotton Club, she had this, like, baby scat that she would do. So that infamous. The Betty Boop boop boop. Like, that whole thing literally came from her actual performance. And she was known for all of the scatting that she did around Harlem, her look, everything, right? And some years ago, there was a Betty Boop play on Broadway, I believe this was like a year or so ago, there was a Betty Boop play on Broadway that actually attempted to give Esther Jones her flowers. But again, still not as widely talked about. But there was a black woman named Jasmine Amy Rogers, who played her. And even then, she talked a lot about how people would come to the play. And it would be twofold. It would be like people would either come and be like, oh, my God, I didn't know Betty Boop was inspired originally by a black woman, a black jazz singer, or there'd be people who would come, especially people of a certain age generation, that would come and be like, we are so happy to see one of us up there telling this story, because this is the original roots of Betty Boop. Now, some years ago, I mentioned the legal proceedings that the Flesher family were involved in because there was a white woman named Helen Kane who had always alleged and even to this day still alleges that she was the original inspiration for the Betty Boop character. And she actually sued Max Fleer, who is the grandfather of the guy that. That Quinton Brunson is going to be doing this movie with. And when she sued him, she sued him. When it was one of the original Betty Boop cartoons that came out, she sued him because she said that her likeness was being used against her will. And she sued. She tried to sue for a ton of money. Now, during this trial, you know, Baby Esther, she of course, was not in court during the trial, though it was. It was always reported as if she was alive during the time, but she just didn't come to Court. Her manager ended up coming to court, though, and testified about, you know, the. The actual origin of Betty Boop, how this woman, Helen Kane, had actually come and saw Betty Boop or Esther actually performing in Harlem at some of the clubs, and then took the style and kind of created it in her way and ran with the narrative that she was the person that inspired this. There was some sort of screen test that is now, like lost and can't be found that was shown by the defense in court to prove that, you know, Esther Jones and Betty Boop was. Was a whole conversation or baby Esther was a whole conversation prior to this woman named Helen Kane. Now, the Supreme Court at the time of this, threw this out. They said that there was not enough evidence for her to show what she was claiming and threw this whole thing out. And it's been reported that Esther Jones passed away and never got her just due. So that court case happened. She passed away and never got a just due. But now the movie is coming. Now, there is no word on the specific storyline of the movie, but it is said that, you know, Quinta is going to be able to talk about the impact on culture for nearly a century. She gave a statement to Variety, and she said, betty Boop is one of the nation's most beloved character cartoons, yet somehow still remains presently niche. She has had a quiet but undeniable impact on culture for nearly a century. After Aaron and I met with Mark and learned more about his grandfather's creation of Betty, I realized there was much. There was a much deeper story to tell, one that could be explored in a way that feels refreshing, submersive and timeless, much like Betty herself. So Mark Fleisher, who is again, the grandson of Max, who went through that whole original court case and, you know, actually got his inspiration from. From Esther Jones, says, when Quinta first approached me with the unique concept of a movie about the relationship of my grandfather, Max Fleischer, and his creation, Betty Boop, I was breathtaking. Quinta so embodies Betty's love of life, intelligence, humor, sassiness and compassion that the relationship between her as Betty and Max burst into life at its mere mention. So I'm looking forward to this shout out to Quinta. She is having a run. I mean, Abbott elementary is a hit on abc. And this comedy, Abbott elementary, made her the first solo black woman to win an Emmy for outstanding writing for a Comedy series and the first to earn three Emmy nominations in a single year for writing, acting and producing in the comedy category. She later then went on and won An Emmy for outstanding lead comedy actress for season two of the show. And she became the first black woman to earn that honor since 1981. So, you know, if you were following Quinta Brunson from the early Internet days when she was just going viral out of Philly, living in la, and then she went on over to buzzfeed and did work there, Just everything she's been able to accomplish. Like, I was watching her the other day on Houseguests and I was like, man, I am so proud of her. Like, so proud of her. Let's take a listen to her own house guest. She's talking about, you know, what the come up has been like for her.
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Quinta Brunson
And that even when my mom didn't necessarily get it, she got it, right? Cause like, I left school, everyone's like,
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Lauren LaRosa
yeah, I'm moving to la. I kept the same.
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Quinta Brunson
Yeah, we gonna need more information.
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Quinta Brunson's Mom
Yep.
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Quinta Brunson
She was like, we not just leaving school with full ride scholarships, talking about, we just leaving school to go to la.
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Quinta Brunson's Mom
My mom was not having it.
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Quinta Brunson
She's like, what are you doing?
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Quinta Brunson's Mom
Until Abbott. And you know what? She was not having it. Cause she didn't understand the Internet.
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Quinta Brunson
Even with, like the BuzzFeed, she didn't
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Quinta Brunson's Mom
know what BuzzFeed was. She was asking me up until Abbott. And I'm not even kidding.
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Lauren LaRosa
What are you doing?
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Quinta Brunson
When are you going back to it?
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Quinta Brunson's Mom
If you are stripping, let me know
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Quinta Brunson
if you were stripping.
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Quinta Brunson's Mom
Because she didn't understand. She did not understand how I was paying my rent. The Internet made no sense to her.
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Quinta Brunson
Right? She's like, I'm logging on the Internet and nobody's sending me a check.
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Quinta Brunson's Mom
She didn't.
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Lauren LaRosa
Exactly.
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Quinta Brunson's Mom
And so that was confusing. I didn't let her watch a black lady sketch show.
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Lauren LaRosa
That didn't exist.
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Quinta Brunson's Mom
That didn't exist. You know, Christian woman, she doesn't like that. You know, she'd rather hbo, like, not exist. Like, that should not be a channel on television.
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Lauren LaRosa
Listen, goals, okay, Quincy, you better get in them studios and run up that money gras. Okay? I'm Lauren LaRosa, y'. All. This has been another episode of the Latest with Lauren LaRosa. This is your daily dig on all things pop culture, entertainment news, and all of the conversations that shake the room. Baby. I'll see y' all in my next episode. Because I tell y' all every single episode, y' all could be anywhere with anybody, but y' all choose to be right here with me every episode. And I appreciate y' all so much. I'll see y' all this is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.