Decisions, Decisions: Baby Makin (Ft. Jacquess)

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Breakfast Club – "Decisions, Decisions: Baby Makin (Ft. Jacquess)"

Introduction In the "Decisions, Decisions: Baby Makin" episode of The Breakfast Club, hosted by iHeartPodcasts, the dynamic trio DJ Envy, Angela Yee, and Charlamagne Tha God engage in an in-depth conversation with R&B artist Jacquees. This episode delves into the complexities of relationships, personal growth, and the challenges of navigating love and fatherhood in the public eye.

Guest Introduction: Jacquees The episode kicks off with introductions, featuring Jacquees joining the hosts to discuss his personal journey and upcoming projects. The hosts express excitement about having Jacquees on the show, highlighting their previous interactions and the anticipation surrounding his new endeavors.

Relationship Dynamics and Personal Growth Jacquees opens up about his relationship with Deondra, his fiancée, discussing the evolution from friends to romantic partners. He shares candid insights into overcoming personal struggles, particularly his battle with alcohol and the impact it had on his relationships.

• Quote: "I was always the type of dude to play with fire. I thought I could have it my way, but everything started to fumble." ([11:07])

Jacquees emphasizes the importance of discipline and self-improvement, attributing his transformation to Deondra's unwavering support and belief in his potential.

• Quote: "She believed in me to be someone better. She gave me an opportunity to be better from forgiveness." ([13:18])

Navigating Fatherhood and Responsibility The discussion shifts to fatherhood, with Jacquees reflecting on his responsibilities as a first-time father. He shares how Deondra's pregnancy served as a pivotal moment, inspiring him to mature and take his role as a provider seriously.

• Quote: "When she got pregnant, I had to stop really playing with fire. I had to get disciplined with myself." ([12:00])

Jacquees offers advice to other men, advocating for active participation and support in their partners' lives, especially during significant life changes like pregnancy.

Gift-Giving and Communication in Relationships A notable segment focuses on the complexities of gift-giving within relationships. Jacquees and the hosts explore scenarios where gifts may not meet the recipient's expectations, emphasizing the importance of honest communication.

• Quote: "If you give someone something they don't like and they re-gift it, it hurts because they could have told you the truth." ([32:24])

Mandy expresses her views on the often-cited adage "the thought that counts," arguing that genuine intent and understanding a partner's desires are crucial.

• Quote: "The thought that counts is the bare minimum. Be intentional with listening and getting something that enhances my life." ([36:42])

Jealousy and Success in Relationships The conversation delves into the challenges men face when dating more successful or accomplished women. Jacquees discusses societal pressures and personal insecurities that can arise in such dynamics.

• Quote: "If a woman is more accomplished, it shouldn't make you jealous. It's about respecting and supporting each other." ([62:56])

Eden and Mandy explore how societal expectations influence perceptions of masculinity and partnership, advocating for balanced and supportive relationships regardless of individual success levels.

Pop Culture Reactions and Relationship Insights The hosts play a clip from Nick Cannon discussing his relationship with Mariah Carey, prompting Jacquees to share his perspectives on balancing personal ambitions with relationship commitments.

• Quote: "Her world is automatically bigger than mine. I need to support her without feeling like I'm losing myself." ([61:35])

Jacquees underscores the importance of mutual support and understanding in maintaining a healthy relationship dynamic.

Baby Making Project and Album Promotion Towards the end of the episode, Jacquees introduces his new project, "Baby Making," an album designed to bridge the gap between music and intimate relationships. The hosts engage in playful banter about the album's themes, highlighting its focus on meaningful connections and personal experiences.

• Quote: "This album is something I’m already in before I press play. It’s about real connections." ([70:37])

Jacquees encourages listeners to support his work by purchasing the album, emphasizing its availability in physical stores and online platforms.

Conclusion The episode wraps up with a blend of light-hearted interactions and sincere reflections on love, responsibility, and personal growth. Jacquees's journey from personal struggles to becoming a supportive partner and father serves as a testament to the transformative power of love and dedication.

Notable Quotes with Timestamps:

• "[11:07] Jacquees: I was always the type of dude to play with fire. I thought I could have it my way, but everything started to fumble."
• "[13:18] Jacquees: She believed in me to be someone better. She gave me an opportunity to be better from forgiveness."
• "[32:24] Mandy: Because you gave a gift to someone and they didn't like it and you re gifted it."
• "[36:42] Mandy: The thought that counts is the bare minimum. Be intentional with listening and getting something that enhances my life."
• "[61:35] Jacquees: Her world is automatically bigger than mine. I need to support her without feeling like I'm losing myself."
• "[70:37] Jacquees: This album is something I’m already in before I press play. It’s about real connections."

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Final Thoughts "Decisions, Decisions: Baby Makin (Ft. Jacquess)" offers listeners an intimate glimpse into Jacquees's personal life, his growth as an individual and partner, and his artistic aspirations. The conversation underscores the significance of communication, support, and mutual respect in fostering healthy and fulfilling relationships.

Transcript

[Jacquees]

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[Mandy]

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[Jacquees]

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[Colleen Witt]

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[Deondra]

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[Mandy]

After Meta AI gets you caffeinated, you're ready for some beats.

[Colleen Witt]

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[Jacquees]

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[Deondra]

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[Eden]

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[Jacquees]

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[Eden]

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[Mandy]

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[Eden]

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[Jacquees]

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[Eden]

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[Mandy]

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[Deondra]

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[Jacquees]

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[Mandy]

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[Jacquees]

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[Deondra]

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[Jacquees]

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[Eden]

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[Jacquees]

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[Deondra]

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[Jacquees]

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[Deondra]

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[Jacquees]

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[Mandy]

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[Eden]

Welcome to Decisions, Decisions.

[Mandy]

I don't think you should say decisions, decisions. It sounded like you was talking in cursive.

[Eden]

You definitely say the. Welcome.

[Mandy]

Welcome to the new podcast.

[Eden]

Oh, wait, you want to say it together? Decisions, decisions.

[Mandy]

All right, y'all, well, we are just gonna jump right into this shit. We.

[Eden]

Baby daddy.

[Mandy]

I ain't gonna hold y'all. This is probably crazy because I normally don't bring people like that. I know. Like this. I think.

[Eden]

Tell the truth. They be fighting. Put the camera on.

[Mandy]

Uh, we're not gonna do that. We not gonna do that.

[Jacquees]

Y'all.

[Mandy]

We have Jaques in the building today, and I am really excited because. Yeah, I had a pre pro call with your fiance.

[Jacquees]

Yeah, I heard.

[Mandy]

First up, first up, I ain't gonna hold y'all. Let me tell y'all how I'm sitting here, like, letting her know kind of the questions and conversations we're gonna have on the pot. And here go Jacques in the background. Man, I done heard y'all shit. Y'all better not make my episode boring.

[Jacquees]

I'm like, man, don't give me all that other shit.

[Mandy]

Nah, man.

[Eden]

That's funny.

[Jacquees]

She walked right back out the room.

[Eden]

Yeah, but see, we have to now, because now we can't dig into the holes. Cause if we the ones who dug into the past, we gonna be like, why the fuck would you feel I made our person like that?

[Mandy]

Just know we gonna get to the sex, the baby making of it all.

[Eden]

Before we get to the sexiness. Can I tell you, every time I hear your name, I think of one thing. You know, just as, like, a fan of listening to songs for yours. My favorite song is a song that I would have to go through hell in high water to listen to. And I get so excited anytime I hit a beat. Cause all I want to say is, I gotta ride with my gun.

[Mandy]

I'll take it.

[Jacquees]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mandy]

That's not sex.

[Eden]

You okay? So pretty to me Ain't gonna get paid.

[Jacquees]

What is it you said?

[Mandy]

The gun off safety. Oh, this is when you liked fucking niggas who had guns under the pillow?

[Eden]

No, I just said I resonate with the lyrics.

[Jacquees]

Damn. That's your lie, bro.

[Eden]

That's my shit.

[Jacquees]

It's already turned.

[Eden]

I get so happy when a DJ Just takes it off track, please.

[Jacquees]

Yeah, really.

[Eden]

You know, I really hate remixes, but fuck, when it's better than a song.

[Mandy]

Here we go.

[Eden]

I'm sorry. I love LMA too, but, like, honestly, I was really upset. Like, the dsps, it was killing me, bro. I haven't listened to it on YouTube. I bought YouTube Premium for the day.

[Jacquees]

Hey, you swear? Damn.

[Eden]

Swear to God. Love, love, love, love your voice in that song. It was really fun to listen to. And it's like, just. It was such a good song.

[Jacquees]

Thank you.

[Eden]

But, yeah, like, I can't.

[Jacquees]

That was a fun time, right?

[Eden]

And also, I. You know what? I wanted to.

[Mandy]

I want to Stole the thunder. Wait, and you stole the thunder from her again? Not. Y'all having babies around the same time.

[Jacquees]

Oh, for real? She having a baby?

[Mandy]

She had her baby as well.

[Jacquees]

Oh, that's hard. Congrats to her, though. That's fato.

[Eden]

No, she is dope.

[Jacquees]

I like, she used to be cool with me back in the day.

[Eden]

Did you? When you were singing that song? Because the clip I remember. Did you really? The audios from you singing in a car?

[Jacquees]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No. So that day, I was out the country. I was in London. And it's crazy. Cause her best friend used to run around with me, you know what I'm saying? In London, like, she had worked for, like, Cash Money and Republic, like, out there. It was like they had like a second part out there or whatever. Out the country. And she used to run around with me, whatever. So I was like, man, one day I was like, man, I'm finna make this video to trip. You know what I'm saying? I was like, I'm finna make it in the car. My manager was like, man, don't do that. Whatever. You shouldn't do it. Whatever. I'm like, nah, I'm gonna do it. So I just recorded on the phone, and that's the little clip. I was just lip syncing what I had already recorded and I just threw it on the gram. And when that went viral that same day, I was already shooting a video to it. You know what I'm saying? So I was like, you know, I always do quick mixes. I didn't know it was gonna be that crazy. When I put it on the gram, it had got like. It had got like 10,000 plays. Like in a minute or something crazy. Something ridiculous had happened in like 10 minutes. I remember.

[Eden]

Cause we got the hood version of the song. That's why.

[Jacquees]

Yeah, like, I remember, like, I ain't even gonna cap Like, I remember when I dropped that stuff. Like, I remember, like. Like they had called me from Cali. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, playing it, like, what Was this? Like, 2018 or something like this. Like, I remember they'd call me from California, like, in the neighborhood. Like, just everybody in the neighborhood of California just out the windows playing Trip. Like, it was crazy. Like, that was a crazy moment.

[Mandy]

Is Queen mixes still something? Especially, like, with everyone using samples or remixing and doing all that shit, but also it not being money out of it. Cause shit ain't get cleared. Is that something you still doing? Does it make sense to do?

[Jacquees]

I mean, y'all still do it. I just dropped the Quee Meats project the top of the year.

[Mandy]

Okay?

[Jacquees]

You feel me? I did it because I'm like, man, my fans be asking for it. And that was what was going viral. If you seen, like, the little shit that was like, damn, girl, you been like, damn, damn. Everybody was doing the little dances.

[Eden]

Oh, yeah, that was cute.

[Jacquees]

So it's like, I always do something to end up going viral.

[Eden]

I actually had a really interesting conversation about that moment in time with. I was in this meeting about. It was a TV show that I was working to EP and they wanted to hire this influencer who was popular for copying something from another woman. And the conversation was like, yo, but like, this is kind of fucked up. I'm like, yeah, but there are two black creators. Like, all tiktokers do the same thing. They just remix it. I'm like, what about Jacques? Think about that moment in time. Like, I feel like we all agreed that, like, okay, I understand why you perform this. It's not like people are paying the ticket to see you do this one thing exactly. Can they not do this?

[Mandy]

I will say that is another thing about. I think our first time meeting. Deandre ain't shit. I gotta share this. I gotta share it. So I find out that one of our best friends is dating Jacquees. And she calls me and is like, listen, Jacques, my friend be talking about music, and I don't really know if she listens to your music that well. And she say that you is not the king of R and B. So when we come to New York, swear to God, when we come to New York, I'mma bring her to your show so she could see how you get down, baby. And I went to the show and the visuals in the back, the dancers.

[Jacquees]

Yeah.

[Mandy]

And literally he comes backstage and he was like, so ain't shit. I did that shit. Didn't I?

[Jacquees]

Yeah, yeah. Real talk. That was on a succeeding for you too.

[Mandy]

That was like our first time meeting. And I did want to get into so, you know, decision decisions. You know, we talk relationships, we talk sex, we gonna get into baby making. The new project.

[Jacquees]

Let's do it.

[Mandy]

But before getting into the project, I wanted to bring up just a very real topic about our interaction. Maybe something that people often go with or deal with. And I'll be real with you. Cause you already know I wasn't a fan of you personally at first. Of course there was a lot around the pregnancy, the announcement of it, what was going on with your previous relationship as it intertwined with this previous with this current relationship. And I will tell you, I don't know if you know, there was a decision whether she was going to keep the baby or not. And I sent her flowers that said, real ass bitch give a fuck about a nigga. I support whatever decision you make.

[Jacquees]

Of course.

[Eden]

This so ghetto.

[Mandy]

Oh, but it happens. I'm not gonna lie.

[Jacquees]

As a friend, of course you gotta.

[Mandy]

Support your friend because that took place during your relationship. I do wanna commend you in having to go against and earn the trust, the love from her family members, her brothers, the mama, her best friends and everything around. Because I think it's been a lot for y'all to go through a high risk pregnancy, but also for you as a man, a first time father, having to go against everything and also really being excited about this moment. And I did want to commend you because I do think it's hard. Like a lot of people out there have, you know, get pregnant with ain't shit niggas. Not saying that you are, but those men, there is a battle in wanting to be excited because this is a baby that's coming into the picture. Wanting to stay with this woman, though there's been some ups and downs. And then also fighting to prove that I'm finna be the man that I know I can be in this relationship. And I do want to say from a personal standpoint, y'all, every time I have seen you, you have done nothing but show up as a partner, as someone embracing the family, even though you knew we hated you a little bit.

[Jacquees]

Yeah, Real talk.

[Mandy]

And I did wanna ask you how was that moment of wanting to celebrate your first child? And then also as the man trying to just give advice to maybe other men dealing with this, like how you let them know, like, I'm gonna be here and I'm gonna be a good father and I'm gonna be a good partner to this woman.

[Jacquees]

Uh, well, really, it's like. It's just a decision a man gotta make. Honestly, that's what I think. You know what I'm saying? Cause, like, us as dudes, like, it come a time where it came a time in my life where I'm like, man, I gotta stop really playing with fire, you know what I'm saying? I was always the type of dude to, like, play with fire. You dig what I'm saying? I would always think I could have it my way, period.

[Mandy]

Yeah, most men think that.

[Jacquees]

That's just how I was thinking. I was just like, man, I'm Jacques. I can have shit my way. You know what I'm saying? And it just came to a halt because when I was thinking that, it's like everything started to fumble. You dig what I'm saying? Like, other places in my life started to fumble, and I'm like, I ain't got no discipline nowhere, you know? And if you ain't got no discipline nowhere, then everything gonna start to fumble. So once I got disciplined with myself and I stopped drinking and doing things.

[Mandy]

Like that, I was gonna share how that discipline happened.

[Jacquees]

Yeah, like, my girl was big on that, you know, I was big on drinking. You know, I was just really like a drinker. You feel me? Like a nigga that just liked to drink. But it was taking me somewhere that I had never been, and I was, like, starting to lose myself in a way. But then I had somebody like Deondra that's right there, that seen me in such a light, that was seeing me go down like that, that she really just couldn't believe it type of thing.

[Mandy]

She clearly couldn't drink. Well, she couldn't drink during the pregnancy, so they kind of went on that sobriety journey together, you know what I'm saying?

[Jacquees]

So it was like that. But see, while she got pregnant, I was still turned, you know what I'm saying? So I didn't turn down until like, three months after.

[Eden]

Do you think that men need a moment of, like. I feel like to any man that's ever dated me, there was a moment where they had to almost lose me to be like, oh, okay. And for you, I don't know if that moment was just, you know, drama online and ex or whatever, but do you think that it takes that? Like, do you think if you didn't have that moment, you could propose? Like, is there moments?

[Jacquees]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Without the moment, I could have still proposed.

[Eden]

Do you think that that really showed you the Value, though. I'm not saying, obviously you won't look at this like the future wife, but it doesn't make you feel like, oh, nah.

[Jacquees]

It's like all the BS did for me really was just show me that she believed in me to be someone better, you know, she gave me an.

[Eden]

Opportunity to be better from forgiveness.

[Jacquees]

Yeah, it's like. It's like she, like, you know when somebody know, like, nah, that ain't you. You know what I'm saying? They be like, nah, I don't believe that's you. You know what I'm saying? They could see the good in you, like, the real greatness in you.

[Mandy]

Did you also feel like the liquor was turning you into someone that you weren't proud of?

[Jacquees]

Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like. Cause I would use it for, like, a coping mechanism for different things that I was fighting myself. You know what I'm saying? So if I wanted to be at a certain place in my career, like, you feel me? If I done got mad at motherfuckers for stuff I could control and not knowing, I would just sit there and just drink, and then I would just drink till I fall asleep. You know what I'm saying? Wake up the next day and just.

[Eden]

Like, drink in the day.

[Jacquees]

Yeah, I'll just wake up. You feel me? Go do something. Then I'll figure out a way to be like, oh, I got a flight. Or I'm gonna go to the bar, sit down to the flight. Like, oh, the flight got two more minutes to board. All right, I'll run down there. You feel me? Get on the flight. Oh, they got something drink on this flight. All right. I just drink, go to sleep, wake up, then just do a show. Then N be like, how the fuck did he kill the show? Like this. N was just backstage, like, N thought I was crazy.

[Mandy]

Oh, wow.

[Jacquees]

Cause I'd be fucked up. But then I get on stage and.

[Eden]

Be, like, functioning alcoholic.

[Mandy]

I mean, I'm not gonna lie straight up.

[Jacquees]

You know what I'm saying?

[Mandy]

I'm currently going through my sober journey right now, too. And it awakens you in so many of your relationships, how you show up with the dependency of liquor to either ease stress, anxiety, just being codependent. Also, as being an artist, you're constantly around drinking and things like that.

[Eden]

Oh, my God, y'all. Don't make me feel bad.

[Jacquees]

And it went. But it wasn't even.

[Eden]

I was saying I did ecstasy last week.

[Mandy]

I feel like.

[Jacquees]

But you can turn the fuck up. I like when folks turn up Like, I hate when folks come around me and they be like. Like, if a motherfucker came around me that drink and don't drink, I'm gonna.

[Mandy]

Be mad like, oh, I ain't gonna lie. I sneak to the bar now and be like, give me a seltzer, Put a lime and mint in that so it look like a mojito, but it ain't. Or I get, like, the 0% Heinekens.

[Jacquees]

Exactly.

[Mandy]

Cause it's still in a beer bottle.

[Jacquees]

You know what I'm saying?

[Mandy]

So I be looking like I'm drinking it tastes like it.

[Jacquees]

It's just a vibe. Like, I swear, now that I done start getting the mocktails and shit, I promise you, sometimes I be feeling like I'm drunk. I'd be like. I'm like, this shit might be in my head for real. Like, I'm like. I told my aunt the other day, I'm like, bruh, I don't think I. Like, I'm really the same. N. Like, regardless, like, you know what I'm saying? Then I had got to a point where it's like, liquor be fun. You dig what I'm saying? And then I was like, you know, you be in, like, some shit where it's like, you know, both of y'all do that shit. You know what I'm saying? I was in stuff like that, like, where we both. I was in relationships where we both enjoyed drinking, and then I was the one who couldn't grasp hold of it. Like, I even look back on past situations now and be like, damn. You know, it was certain things that people was trying to tell me in the past that I understand now, though. You know what I mean? Like, God, make no mistakes. You know what I'm saying? But I be thinking, like, my whole life, a lot of times in my twenties with different relationships I was in. It was like, a lot of times, liquor was always the downfall.

[Eden]

But you know what, though?

[Jacquees]

You know what I'm saying?

[Eden]

Everyone I'm dating somebody famous, women feel so much pressure to not be the fun girl. You want to be everything. You want to be the fun girl. You want to do this. You want to let them lay you down? Like. Like, I feel like I.

[Jacquees]

But then the dude will let you know, you ain't gotta be. Cause then sometimes the nigga will be like, nah, I don't want that from you.

[Eden]

But I don't think women are leading with that. I don't think that most women that famous men meet are being their real selves.

[Jacquees]

I could believe that.

[Eden]

I think they being the woman that they think that you want.

[Jacquees]

That's a fact. It's gonna take. It probably take the dude to break down or something to form. To show their real self for you, I think.

[Mandy]

Um, I. I'm curious because we have this conversation. We've had dating coaches on here, and they. They say how long someone should be with somebody before the question is popped, before you make it serious. Do you remember the moment that you were like, I'm gonna go buy a ring and propose to Deandra? Yeah, we knew you. You had the gender reveal, the baby shower, which is where you proposed. But what was the exact moment where you were like, I'm gonna proposed to this woman?

[Jacquees]

Like, well, you gotta think at the gender reveal, I wasn't even thinking about getting married. You know what I'm saying?

[Mandy]

It was only two months apart from each other, damn near.

[Jacquees]

Like I'm saying, I was just like, wait, really? No, I was just like, one day we'll get married. But I was just like, you know, how n be like, you know, one day we'll get married. But you never really know when they always say it'll just come to you, you know what I'm saying?

[Eden]

How long had y'all been dating before you proposed? Let's see if Anwar is right.

[Jacquees]

Me and Deondra. She came on the tour last year. She came on my tour. We went on tour by October.

[Eden]

Add this up. Cause we had a dating coach say, if a man wanted.

[Mandy]

Because she was pregnant in three months.

[Eden]

No. So now.

[Mandy]

Yeah, she was pregnant in three months of dating, so she was pregnant in January.

[Jacquees]

Yeah, facts.

[Mandy]

So it's different here. The timeline was different.

[Jacquees]

Yeah, our timeline.

[Eden]

But you don't have to marry a woman just cause they pregnant.

[Mandy]

Valid.

[Jacquees]

Hell no. That ain't why I married her. You gotta think so.

[Mandy]

Gender reveal was April. You didn't know in April you didn't wanna propose, but the baby shower was in June or July. Between April and the summer. What moment? Or what did she do? Or what happened to where you were like, this needs to be my wife.

[Jacquees]

Well, it's like, really, we started going to church and stuff. You know what I'm saying? So we started going to change church.

[Eden]

We gotta get in there, motherfucker. On Sunday. We gotta get.

[Mandy]

He could play it on the laptop.

[Jacquees]

Yeah, we start going.

[Mandy]

We start TDJ shape.

[Jacquees]

We started going to church and stuff. And then, honestly, I had started like after the gender revealing. You know, I'm watching them seeing a go, like seeing what we doing and stuff. Like, that. I'm at the crib. Like, I got a schedule. I'm working out in the morning, you know, making my smoothies. We're gonna come back then. And I'm doing what I'm doing now. So I'm like, okay. Cause I'm like, okay. I can, like, you know, first you just try to see the routine. First you be like, okay, can I do this every day? You know what I'm saying? So I'm asking myself that. I'm like, okay, I like waking up over here, making my smoothie, going to the gym, coming back. Shout it right here. I do this, I do that. Okay, I'm waking up. Okay, Now I'm doing this shit for two months straight. I'm like, I still feel straight, like, you know what I'm saying? I'm like, okay, okay.

[Eden]

Just like, it feels easy, you know?

[Jacquees]

I'm just, like, adding it up. I'm trying to see, like, what I'm gonna be missing. You know what I'm saying? Then I'm working.

[Mandy]

And then you started thinking, yeah, then.

[Jacquees]

I'm working out one day, and I'm working out, and I'm running on the treadmill, and I'm looking at this dude. It's this black dude in the gym. So every time it's like, black people in the building. I always be like, oh, this dope. Like, I'm gonna have a conversation with him. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? So I was like. I was like, man, what's up, man? Like, you know what I'm saying? Wu was in the gym. He was like, man, what's up, Doc? Woo, woo. Whatever. And I was talking to him, and he was like, man, I'm a pastor. I couldn't believe he was a pastor. Cause it's swag. I was like, oh, that was up.

[Mandy]

Not pastors. You expect pastors not to be swaggy.

[Jacquees]

I'm saying he was swagged up. You feel me?

[Mandy]

Really?

[Jacquees]

Yeah. You know, you just like, are you the pastor?

[Eden]

Are you the swaggy megachurch?

[Jacquees]

I'm saying. But he just had sauce. Like, you know, he looked like the aunt you just talked to at the crib, like the one that got some money or something. You know what I'm saying?

[Mandy]

It wasn't the one married that was married to Gisele Bryant, was it? No, he got the church in. What?

[Jacquees]

Where the church at? Hold on. Tell me where the church at.

[Eden]

Hold on.

[Mandy]

It's in Atlanta.

[Jacquees]

Tell me where it said hold on. See, Let me see a picture.

[Mandy]

Jamal Bryant. Look up new birth. New birth is Jamal Bryant's channel.

[Jacquees]

Nah, not him.

[Eden]

It wasn't him. No.

[Jacquees]

Okay, so I remember he see Swaggy, bro. Let me see.

[Eden]

Yeah, that nigga look like he got.

[Jacquees]

Oh, no, that ain't bro.

[Eden]

He look like he fuck hoes, you know what I'm saying?

[Jacquees]

That ain't bro.

[Mandy]

You may be probably Victory. That's the other big church. It wasn't Victory.

[Jacquees]

Nah, it was a small church.

[Mandy]

Oh, okay.

[Jacquees]

So he was just basically in there talking about how he was talking about marriage. Just random, you know what I'm saying? And I was like, man, you know, I was just listening to him the first day. I was like, okay. Then he came back to the gym, and it's this other white guy, super cool, who been in the gym with us and stuff. And he always be like, hey, Jaquese, man, you dating, you know, Sanders together. You know what I'm saying? I be like, yeah, man. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, that my girl. Whatever. You know what I'm saying? Like, yo, man, it's dope, man. Stay focused, man. Da da da. You be able to be like, all right. You know what I'm saying? So then the pastor, you know the one we call Doc or whatever, he like, hey, Doc, he just giving me some game or whatever, so I'm like, man, I might get married. You know what I'm saying? So he was like, oh, for real, Doc. Woo woo. Giving me some little game and stuff. I'm like, yeah, yeah, I might do it. I'm just really throwing it out there to see what the OG gonna say. For real say, oh, yeah, Doc, that'll be good for you. Da da da da. You know what I'm saying? He don't even know me for real, but he telling me, that'll be good for you. Da da da da. So I'm like, okay, okay. So I'm just sitting around. So I started writing this letter. You feel me? So I'm like, let me start writing this letter. Let me just see what's going down. So I started writing the letter, then I started writing it. Then I called my mama.

[Eden]

I'm like, a letter to who?

[Jacquees]

Deondra?

[Eden]

Okay.

[Jacquees]

You know what I'm saying?

[Mandy]

The eight minute letter.

[Jacquees]

Yeah, yeah. I was writing that letter for four days. You feel me?

[Mandy]

Shut up.

[Jacquees]

Yeah, and I remember when I was writing the letter, I remember I would be on the balcony, and this one, we was in the condo in the city when I was over there, staying at her spot. And she would be on the sofa, you know, the sofa right here, the balcony right here. And I'd be out there late, and she would be like, I don't worry about you. I'm like, what you worry? You know, Deondra like that. She was like, babe, I don't worry about you. I'm like, what you worry about? I'm right here. You know what I'm saying?

[Mandy]

But you were writing a lot in your phone.

[Jacquees]

But she know I always write down stuff anyway. So I'm making it seem like, yeah, I got a lot of ideas.

[Eden]

That's what I'm trying to do.

[Jacquees]

I'm making it seem like, yeah, I got a lot of ideas. Like, I'm just writing some ideas and stuff. I'm thinking about some lyrics and stuff. So she was like, okay. Then it went on for days. She kept saying, like, I'm just worried about you. You know what I'm saying? So then I asked my mama like, hey, mom, I think I'm marry Deandra. She like, okay, cool. She like, well, you need to ask her short term goals and her long term goals.

[Mandy]

Oh.

[Jacquees]

You know what I'm saying?

[Mandy]

This wasn't a conversation y'all had already.

[Jacquees]

My mama?

[Mandy]

No, you and Deondra, the short term and long term goal conversation.

[Eden]

Uh, oh, well, I guess in all fairness, you just kind of getting to know each other. You've got this new thing going on.

[Jacquees]

It's like, oh, wow, we didn't. It was frisk. So my mama, like, make sure you know our short term goals and our long term goals. Cause my mama had already told me she was the one on tour, you know what I'm saying?

[Eden]

Really? What made your mama said, oh, yeah, your family.

[Jacquees]

I mean, DeAndre had came on my tour. She really snuck on tour with us. For real. Like, she came to us.

[Mandy]

Oh, that's what I gotta do. I gotta sneak on tour with her now.

[Jacquees]

You gotta come to a show.

[Mandy]

Okay, Turk, and sneak on a tour. I see you, Dee. I'm finna do it too.

[Jacquees]

Shawty came to a show. She brought her brothers to the first show she came to. She brought Shador and Bucky. And then she was like, I wanna come to another show. I want my friends to see you perform. You know what I'm saying?

[Mandy]

And she had us pull up every city. She was like, I got friends in this city.

[Eden]

Yeah, every friend was coming to the.

[Jacquees]

City and I was meeting. And then she was telling her mama, for real, like, I think he the one like I caught whiff of them saying like, oh, he done won. Like, you feel me? I'm hearing that you feel me? So I'm like, oh shit, they think I'm the one. Like what the hell Ch ch ch.

[Deondra]

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[Eden]

What type of things do you think mean? The one we had Rotimi on.

[Mandy]

Yep.

[Eden]

And he talked about and said specific things. I'm just curious, like, what is.

[Mandy]

Hold on, hold on. Did she pay herself to come on that tour? That's what Rotimi said. Rotimi said he knew her.

[Eden]

Oh, yeah.

[Mandy]

His woman was the one. She flew us South Africa to LA because she wanted to see him and then.

[Jacquees]

Nah, she was paying to get there.

[Mandy]

God damn it. We all gotta pay to be with these niggas. She was paying to get there?

[Jacquees]

No, I think I paid for her to get there probably one time, but she.

[Mandy]

Wait, how many shows she went to? I need to know.

[Jacquees]

Deandra started out on one show, and then she finished the tour, like, after. Like, before Halloween. Deondra was there with us on Halloween. We all had on costumes. She had her friends with us with costumes. Then she was there with us the whole tour. She was on the whole tour and.

[Mandy]

She just popped up every city. She brought herself.

[Jacquees]

No, she stayed on the bus. She organized my room. She had her.

[Mandy]

She said, I'm gonna work for her.

[Jacquees]

She had everything organized. Like, literally. She came and changed the whole game.

[Eden]

Let me ask you this.

[Jacquees]

Damn.

[Eden]

Somebody is going to watch this. And people are enjoy hating on what you have, right? Or happy people, whatever. Like, even Deondra's post about pregnancy. I have fibroids. I couldn't believe the comments. That shit really triggered me. And I don't even know Deondra like that. I know her through Mandy when she comes to a show. Yeah, I was fucked up reading that show. I'm like, bro, you can't even make a choice for yourself because people just want to be angry about a nigga with you that you.

[Jacquees]

Yeah, real talk.

[Eden]

So people, I feel like, will be excited to hear the DeAndre paid to come because they wanna. I really do. I feel like this. Oh, yeah, someone's gonna watch this and be like, see, I gotta put a.

[Mandy]

Little piggy bank to the side to spent on some niggas in 2025.

[Eden]

Tell me why Deandra doing this on her own taught you that she was the one.

[Mandy]

Or spoke to you.

[Eden]

What did that show you, if anything?

[Jacquees]

I mean, you gotta think we was friends first. Anyway, so DeAndre would always be at my birthday parties and all that type of Stuff. Anyway, so it's like, I was with her on her 33rd birthday. I remember she was telling me when she turned 33, she was like, oh, this is my Jesus year. You know what I'm saying? Like, soon as she turned 33, I think that's the same year she got pregnant. It is. You know what I'm saying? And she was like, this is my Jesus year. I was like, what that means? She was like, you know, she was explaining it to me, and I just got lost. What'd you ask me?

[Eden]

I'm saying, like, with her spending money to come.

[Jacquees]

Oh, yeah.

[Eden]

I feel like somebody.

[Jacquees]

Yeah, I'm saying. What did it mean?

[Eden]

Did that mean something?

[Jacquees]

I mean, like, I said, we was already friends and just going back to her telling me it was a jeezy year and stuff like that. It was like we already had, like, a special connection. You know what I'm saying? We was already connected. So for her coming to my shows, it was really like. With her coming to see me, it's like. Yeah. Like Deondra pulling up on me. You feel me?

[Eden]

Okay, so hold on. How you start fucking your friend? Cause I feel like nobody gonna let us run. Nobody's gonna let us have a homeboy ever again.

[Jacquees]

I'm saying.

[Mandy]

What you mean?

[Eden]

Did you always know you did go.

[Mandy]

From homie to lover? No, no, no.

[Eden]

We needed. Was it really friend?

[Mandy]

How do you go there? How do you go from homie to love?

[Jacquees]

I feel like when a nigga get. When a nigga get. When a nigga either got problems in his spot. For real. When a nigga got problems in his spot, and a nigga just tired of what he got, and a n just ready to just explore. Like, when you ready to risk, when you ready to jump, you gotta be ready to just.

[Mandy]

Like this either. I like that answer.

[Jacquees]

All right. I mean. I mean.

[Mandy]

I mean.

[Eden]

Okay, well, let's rephrase it.

[Jacquees]

That's what it is.

[Mandy]

Okay.

[Eden]

No, I think we need to go back here.

[Jacquees]

Rewind it.

[Eden]

Can I just tell you how that you made it sound?

[Jacquees]

How?

[Eden]

Kind of just like she made it.

[Jacquees]

Seem like she's a homewrecker or something.

[Eden]

No, you made it sound like she was just there.

[Jacquees]

Oh, no. I mean, you gotta think. We was friends. We met probably on one of those days. Like, not one of them days. Like one of them times. You know how you're in a relationship with someone, you not with someone for some time? Like, you might have been dating somebody for years, right? But y'all might have not been in a relationship for, like, three months, you know what I'm saying? You might have met someone that became your friend. That's how you met somebody. Like, I met her in a period like that, okay? You know what I'm saying? I met her, like, when she turned 31. Like, Pat Man Jones had called me to sing her Happy Birthday. I didn't know nothing about her. You feel me? He was just like, man, I'm with DeAndre. I'm like, who is that? He like, man, it's Deiondaughter. You feel me? It's like, my little sister. It's her birthday. Sing to her. I'm like, what, nigga? I don't be singing to folks on the phone. You know what I'm saying?

[Mandy]

Y'all meeting 3Pac is crazy.

[Jacquees]

Yeah. And he like. And he like, bruh, just sing to her. I'm gonna put her on the phone. He put on the phone. And when I seen her, I'm like, oh, she's super pretty. I started singing. I ain't. I don't never seen the people on the phone. You know what I'm saying? I just started singing, and she was just like, oh, thank you. And I was like, oh, damn. I was like, pat Shout is typing.

[Eden]

In Deonton's Dr. Instagram.

[Jacquees]

Shout is bad. And I just started DMing her, and I met her in Miami, and then we just started kicking it. Like, we was kicking it so hard. I couldn't believe she was Deion Sanders daughter. You feel me? Like, we was just kicking it.

[Eden]

Yeah. I ain't gonna lie. That's a risk to your life.

[Jacquees]

Like, I was just like. I was just like, dang. Like, Shawty really, like, cool as hell. Like, you feel me?

[Mandy]

She is.

[Jacquees]

She was so real. I was just like, damn. Like, this shit crazy. You feel me? I was really blown. Like, this don't make sense. Like, Shawty too real.

[Mandy]

I love this. It's got into.

[Eden]

I haven't talked to a from Atlanta in so long. Oh, my God, look. You hear the stairs? I be with Shawty. I'm gonna get my smoothie, come back to the gym. Shawty stood on like, yeah, he was a Joe Budden and amigos still.

[Mandy]

Don't do that.

[Eden]

Don't do that.

[Jacquees]

Crazy.

[Mandy]

That's crazy. I want it. Because the holiday season is coming up and again. Digging into relationships and how to navigate them. I have a hypothetical that I want to throw at you because we are in the season of gift giving. So I want to see how you would react to this incident. Happen Eddin feel free as well, because you a dude. And so sometimes I know it could be seeming like we ganging up. So if you got to step in, you got to step in. So, Queen, you get your partner a gift for the holidays. Let's say you buy her a bag. She absolutely hates the gift, but doesn't tell you. Two months later, you see her wrapping it to re gift it to one of her close friends, don't you? How do you respond to this?

[Jacquees]

I'm hurt. I done been hurt before. Like, I'm like, hurt. Yeah, slick.

[Mandy]

Because you gave a gift to someone and they didn't like it and you re gifted it.

[Eden]

I be no re gifting it is.

[Jacquees]

Crazy because it's like, yeah, like, you re gifted it. Now if it's like, if you would have told me, like, all right, I don't like these.

[Mandy]

What is it now? Let's hold on. We gotta help the audience. It's the season of giving. I really think men have an awful, awful time getting gifts that women actually like.

[Jacquees]

Facts.

[Mandy]

Weezy and I have come on here on Patreon and had to share how n spent money. And we ain't like that shit.

[Eden]

And then, oh, I'll never forget mine, bitch.

[Mandy]

I didn't.

[Eden]

She wallet, it was just as red as your pants.

[Mandy]

She hated it. She had to come on and was.

[Jacquees]

Like, I know that it's tough to buy women gifts. I tell DeAndre that all the time. I come in the house with stuff.

[Mandy]

Oh, no. She told me.

[Jacquees]

She told me.

[Mandy]

You scared as hell to buy her again?

[Jacquees]

Yeah, I tell her. Cause I be like, I'm nothing now. So, you know, I wanted to ask you something before. So how did you pick out the ring? Oh, so I had my sisters with me. But did they know what shape and stuff? Cause I realized I knew. I'm like, I wanna. I want her like. I'm like, I want her ring to be like my earrings.

[Mandy]

Wait, you knew what you wanted her to wear, but did you know what type of ring she wanted?

[Jacquees]

I ain't know what she wanted, but I end up buying her dream ring.

[Eden]

Oh, thank God.

[Mandy]

Oh, you looked up, nigga, you got lucky.

[Eden]

You know what I think about when I think about a bad ring? Sex in the City. When she threw up. You remember that moment?

[Mandy]

Mm.

[Eden]

Mm. She found the ring in the closet and threw up.

[Jacquees]

Oh, shit.

[Eden]

And everybody was like, what made you throw up? She was like, it was pear shape. It had this kind of van, and it was all sick to their stomach. And I'm like, yo, I would be so happy, I would just live with it, bro.

[Jacquees]

Nah, if.

[Mandy]

Nah, if it was the way I want it.

[Eden]

Wait, wait. How ugly.

[Mandy]

I want one that made my hand go like this.

[Jacquees]

You gotta, you gotta. Are you saying you seen Shouting Ring?

[Mandy]

Oh, no, it's not. No, girl, that thing was glistening. I told my friend, girl, let me sing.

[Jacquees]

Put it up like me.

[Eden]

You know, I will say this, though, if I'm dating. I mean, you're RnB singer with rapper energy. My ring can't be made. I'm sorry.

[Mandy]

No, it can't be made.

[Eden]

You telling me my nigga can't go through TSA without taking everything off? And I have to be sitting here with a normal ring.

[Mandy]

But to be fair, you also just.

[Jacquees]

Brought up not liking my jury don't ring in tsa.

[Eden]

Huh?

[Jacquees]

My jury don't go off in tsa.

[Eden]

No, I'm saying, like, I just thought you have to take off everything. Cause you got.

[Mandy]

So I just had to throw that out. Get off. He said, this ain't metal, bitch. Do what?

[Jacquees]

Hey, y'all ain't catch that, though.

[Mandy]

I was like, yo. He said, nah, I don't have that experience.

[Eden]

Sorry. I Honestly, when I said it, it didn't come out of my mouth. Like, it was.

[Mandy]

So then. So then you. So as men who are thoughtful and gift given, if your partner doesn't like it, it does have an impact on you. But then how would you want your partner to say, hey, babe, don't really like this?

[Jacquees]

It only got an impact on you by the reaction of how they do when you give them the gift. Like, if I give somebody something they like, thank you, but I don't. It'll make you. It'll hurt you. Regard. What if I fake it at a.

[Mandy]

Moment and then come to you back then? Or like, hey, babe.

[Eden]

Yeah, I think it hurts regardless. Cause you could either be ungrateful.

[Jacquees]

I mean, it depends on how you say it. Like, if you say it on some cool, funny shit like that, I might laugh and be like, you know, like, damn, what the fuck?

[Mandy]

I gotta make a joke of the gift you gave me. Tell me how to tell a nigga I don't like what they got.

[Jacquees]

Cause you never know how hard a nigga went to get it. Can we role play?

[Mandy]

Okay.

[Eden]

Can we role play?

[Mandy]

Okay.

[Jacquees]

Can you give her a gift real quick? And then she.

[Mandy]

Okay, you respond, weezy, you don't like the gift?

[Jacquees]

Yeah, yeah.

[Eden]

She gonna like, oh, my God, you got me. Oh, my God. Yeah, she.

[Mandy]

I'm so happy okay, so wait, as a man, would this reaction be okay, even though it's.

[Eden]

Even though you know it's a little bit of a lie?

[Jacquees]

Yeah, I would be a little sick then, my pop. You feel me, bro?

[Eden]

You know, my grandmother said to me one time, God rest her soul, I got her a fucking sweater I'll never forget. She opened the box on Christmas that might have been like 2015. And she went like this. Oh. I was like, what's wrong with it? And she was like, I don't think I like it. I said, didn't Grandma said. Thought that count? She said, don't think about me.

[Jacquees]

Damn.

[Eden]

I was like, that was my line forever.

[Jacquees]

That's real, though.

[Mandy]

Don't think about it.

[Eden]

Not for real.

[Mandy]

So can we bring that up, though? Is there a moment where it actually is the thought that counts? I think that's a bullshit ass line. I ain't gonna hold you.

[Jacquees]

It's like this. I feel like with a gift you should be thankful regardless.

[Mandy]

So I disagree. And let me.

[Eden]

Oh, girl, don't bring up the flowers.

[Mandy]

I'm not gonna bring up the flowers, bitch. Damn.

[Jacquees]

I think that's a valid point, too.

[Mandy]

Shut up.

[Eden]

So my nigga and I argued over Mandy. I thought she was gonna. He showed me, right?

[Mandy]

Okay, okay. So to me, the thought that counts, A brings it down to being something bare minimum. We all have thoughts. We all. And when holidays come around, it's almost like second nature. Fuck, I gotta get a gift. When Valentine's Day come around, birthdays come around, when there's moments that come around where technically gift giving is a part of it, the thought that counts actually is the bare minimum. Because you already know there's going to be an exchange of something. So to me, being intentional with a listening to me or getting me something that you know will enhance my. Whatever, my life in whatever way or that I've actually asked for. So, yes, I'm. Okay. I'm not gonna bring up the flowers, but I'm gonna bring it up so he can hear. I'm gonna bring up the surprise party. So when I was. So when I was in my previous relationship, I'm not big on celebrating birthdays. I don't want to do birthday dinners. I don't want everyone around and in the moment. I just wanted a spa day with my nigga. That is it. I was very adamant, let all my friends know I don't even want nothing but a spa day. There was a lot going on with work. My birthday, he gives me a surprise party. All my friends Are there. There's a cake. There's food. I'm surprised. With a surprise party. I roast that nigga on a podcast the next week and bring up how much I absolutely hated it because I thought, you know what? This nigga didn't even listen to what I wanted.

[Eden]

Wait, you didn't tell him to his face you were.

[Mandy]

No, I told him. I told him that following week, and then we got into an argument, which is why I brought it up on the podcast. I brought it up on the other pod, but I ended up being upset because in that moment, me telling him I didn't like it, he said, I've never done that for anybody. And he made me feel like I was ungrateful because he went out of his way to get me something I didn't want. There is a problem there. There's an intentionality of you literally going out of the way to give me something I don't want. And now you're trying to make me seem ungrateful because you got me the one thing I said I didn't want. You don't get a pat on the back for the thought of doing something that meant something to you and not to me. And so I think it's the same thing. Let's bring up the example. No, but don't do that.

[Eden]

Wait, is that wrong?

[Mandy]

No. Do you know? Hold on. I want to bring up Pop Cult. I don't know. Did y'all see this year, even Swizz Beats went on an interview and said, yo, I got. I got Alicia A1. I think there was only seven cars made. This certain type of car. Look up the car. Edit if you can. And he went on, and he was like, man, there was only, like, seven of these made. I got it for her birthday. And that shit collecting dust. She ain't even drove it. She don't like it. I spent all this money on it.

[Jacquees]

It's. It's Virgil's $300,000. Is it Maybach?

[Mandy]

Yes.

[Jacquees]

Yeah.

[Eden]

I'm not saying I hate rich people, because I don't want to be one, but, like.

[Mandy]

But literally. And what he even came to realize in that moment was I bought her something that I wanted myself.

[Jacquees]

I'm sorry. $500,000.

[Mandy]

$500,000 car. She hated it. Didn't drive it. And he was like, damn. I realized in that moment that's not even what my wife wanted. And he did feel like she was fucking awful for not being excited about her.

[Eden]

Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

[Mandy]

What?

[Eden]

The only caveat was you strong either.

[Mandy]

I ain't hard. Give me what I like, nigga.

[Jacquees]

No, I gotta say to something about what you said. So boom. So you had told buddy like, woo, woo. You were like, no, I'm saying. Know what I'm saying? You really had told whoop de whoop de whoop.

[Mandy]

Yep, I said all that.

[Jacquees]

You told buddy basically like, damn, it's my birthday. You know what I'm saying? Like, I really don't want to do nothing this year. I just want to have a spa day, right? But I'm going to tell you something. How dudes think. How n think, right? Uh oh, n think like. Cause then especially who you are, right? N think like, damn. Okay, Shawty said she didn't want to do nothing for her birthday, okay? I'm trying to wild shot it. Like, whenever a nigga hear a girl say she don't want to do something for her birthday, a nigga instantly get to thinking like, nah, we doing something for her birthday. Cause I know she want to do something for her birthday. Maybe shawty ain't got it. I totally get it. Maybe shawty like. Or maybe shawty like trying to figure it out. So I'm gonna figure it out full boom. Hey, you know shawty like to be lit. Hey, let's have a surprise party. Boom. That's what I'm saying.

[Mandy]

You know what's crazy?

[Jacquees]

I get it.

[Mandy]

I'm not a bitch that even fake reaches for my wallet to pay for a date. You know exactly what you getting with me. So that me saying what I wanted to say.

[Jacquees]

It was your birthday.

[Eden]

Did you still get the spot?

[Jacquees]

It was your birthday, you said.

[Eden]

What did you get at the spots?

[Mandy]

Also, oh, three breakups later because I had a coupon. Thank you, Erica and Mila for that.

[Eden]

Okay, wait, let me just say this one thing from him, though, that I was thinking of.

[Mandy]

I got it from my friends.

[Jacquees]

I would have been sick.

[Mandy]

My friends got me a $200 Sojo Spa gift card because my friends listen to what I watch.

[Eden]

Hold on, wait, wait.

[Jacquees]

But see, he trying to open.

[Eden]

You go to the spa already and do it right. This is. I didn't really think of it like this, but now that you said this, a lot of niggas that date me feel like it's hard to get me anything because I always get it myself. My nigga said to my face, like, when he took me to Soto, like, thank God you ain't fucking been here.

[Mandy]

You don't think I could have threw myself a surprise party?

[Eden]

No, I Don't think you can throw yourself. I mean, it's the effort, but that's the point.

[Mandy]

But see, so that's. So this is my point. For men, it's the effort. To me, then the gift and what you do, the gesture becomes about you, not about your partner.

[Eden]

Why do you think that, though?

[Mandy]

Well, that's because. Because literally, yo, I'm going out of my way to do this. He brought up that he'd never done it for a woman before.

[Jacquees]

That's different.

[Mandy]

He felt proud of that moment, and so it did something for him. But you literally went out of your way.

[Jacquees]

But it's like you made him feel like that.

[Mandy]

Oh, wow.

[Jacquees]

It's like you made. It's like, yeah, you made him want to go out of his way.

[Colleen Witt]

Yeah.

[Eden]

I'm not gonna lie to you.

[Jacquees]

You did what I'm saying, it's like you made a nigga. It's like. It's like, I like you so much, you make me want to go call all your friends and go out my way to celebrate you. Like, I like you that much. Like, I heard you say that you ain't wanna do nothing for your birthday, but I know you, Mandy. Like, so. It's like I heard you say you ain't like, but it's your birthday, though. Like, we celebrating you. Like, that's how the nigga was saying.

[Eden]

You know, I did not think I was gonna be Team Red pants instead of Red Shirt.

[Jacquees]

That's crazy. But that's how the nigga was saying.

[Eden]

I'm not gonna lie to you.

[Mandy]

I see he really fuck with you. So you'll say, overall, because this is the consensus I'm getting. Are we saying then in gift giving, women should just. Literally, it's the thought that counts. And to not share whether they hate something or not. Should we eat that then? To not.

[Jacquees]

It just depends on.

[Mandy]

Hold on. We got an audience today. She said no, but that's what I'm hearing because of the effort that the man puts in. So then how can we be honest in a relationship if the ego is not involved, where we can share whether we dislike something?

[Jacquees]

Well, I mean, it's like this. My girl can tell me she don't like something. I'm not gonna just be hurt. You know what I'm saying? I might be like, just say, I came in the house with something. I went to Louie and I brought Deandra something in the spot. And then she was like, oh, man, I don't like that. I would be like, well, let go return that shit right that's what I would say. No cap. Just like that. I be like, well, let go return that shit.

[Eden]

Right?

[Mandy]

Okay.

[Jacquees]

That's me, though.

[Eden]

I wish I would have told the truth about that one gift. That was the second.

[Jacquees]

Yeah.

[Mandy]

Cause, bitch, you did you.

[Jacquees]

But then if I see her wrapping it up, trying to give it to Mandy, I'm be like, why are you giving Mandy my shit, Right?

[Mandy]

Oh, well, damn. Let me get that shit, baby. I like that shit. That's why.

[Eden]

God damn.

[Jacquees]

That's how I'm gonna as well let.

[Mandy]

It go to you somewhere. Goddamn.

[Eden]

I think there's a thin line of like, letting someone know that you're grateful. So let me tell you something. Mandy just said her homegirl did. And I was like, this bitch is insane.

[Mandy]

So this episode comes out beforehand just so we know.

[Jacquees]

That's what I was going to try to go at you.

[Eden]

But whatever, fuck it. So. Because this is. This is in the same kind of family, okay? Her homegirl just started dating a nigga, okay? Three, four months. Asked him to get her a tote bag.

[Jacquees]

What's a tote bag?

[Eden]

A tote bag.

[Jacquees]

Okay. Sorry.

[Eden]

I have my bracelets.

[Jacquees]

Oh, she asked for one.

[Eden]

Yes.

[Jacquees]

She asked for a bag.

[Eden]

She asked for a tote bag.

[Mandy]

She never fooled. Was old.

[Jacquees]

Like, I need a bag. Can you give me a bag?

[Mandy]

I don't like how you and you. It wasn't phrased that way. I'm sure it wasn't phrased that way.

[Eden]

So the dude gets on.

[Jacquees]

I don't like that shit. Don't do that.

[Mandy]

And this is why we gotta buy our own fucking.

[Eden]

I'm gonna be honest with you though. The shit that you said, I really think is crazy.

[Jacquees]

Now I'll tell you some real shit. When I was first getting with DeAndre, right, like this, before we was dating or anything, like when we was first kind of liking each other, knowing we liked each other, I was always going to the Louis store, right? And she would always be like, buy me something like, da, da, da. I never would. You feel me? I just never would. You know what I'm saying? I remember she bought me a Louis hat, right? But she would never give it to me. Cause I never bought her shit out of the Louis.

[Mandy]

That is funny.

[Eden]

I'm a dangle.

[Mandy]

This bitch. So she just took a picture of it, was like, got this for you, babe. But never gave it to.

[Jacquees]

She still got it. She rocked it. I never wore it, though.

[Mandy]

Not she wore it. She said, I'm gonna wear this.

[Eden]

Yo. That's actually really Funny.

[Mandy]

That is funny.

[Jacquees]

Cause you know what that is I got together.

[Eden]

Have you ever seen that little meme? When a bitch get a gift, she be like, he's not your nigga. He not your nigga. He's not your nigga. That's me.

[Jacquees]

What's up?

[Mandy]

That is funny.

[Eden]

Okay, so the friend asked for the bag, right? He gives her a bag, a tote bag. It's Marc Jacobs.

[Jacquees]

Okay?

[Eden]

What was her response?

[Jacquees]

I don't wear Marc Jacobs.

[Mandy]

Do you have Marc Jacobs in your closet? Then why do you think Marc Jacobs. Look at the jaw drop.

[Jacquees]

I got Marc Jacobs.

[Eden]

Me, too, but he didn't. I have ready to wear my Jacob.

[Mandy]

If you don't have Marc Jacobs in.

[Jacquees]

Your closet, why are you buying it for me?

[Mandy]

You have Goyard, you have Gucci, you have all these other things.

[Jacquees]

Why are you doing this for me?

[Mandy]

Do you think I'm less than? What you think? If you're three or four more than.

[Jacquees]

You ask, I'm just like, does this bag show how much I value you? Does this bag show your value?

[Eden]

You asked for it. If you wanted something, bitch, you should have been specific.

[Jacquees]

I mean, yeah, you asked for a new bag. I didn't know it had to be Gucci. Like, she would have threw me off.

[Mandy]

Okay.

[Eden]

I can't believe he wasn't about to.

[Jacquees]

I'd have been like, yeah, I'm straight on. You. You trim. Because this ain't even about none of this shit. You asked for a bag. Like, I could have bought you a JanSport. You feel me?

[Mandy]

No, no, you couldn't.

[Jacquees]

I could have. You said, I need a new bag when I need a new suit.

[Mandy]

A GM Sport is. Hold up. We not gonna let you get that off.

[Jacquees]

You need a new bag.

[Mandy]

Bag.

[Eden]

And you're gonna buy from.

[Jacquees]

I'm saying, what type of bag we talking? Okay. She talking about you need something to walk around with. Like, we talking about something to rock.

[Mandy]

Hold up. Dance sport does not come.

[Jacquees]

I'm talking about how we coming. You need something to rock. We said you gonna put your shit in.

[Eden]

Yeah, this is real. This is.

[Mandy]

I got you to treat me.

[Eden]

I know the point you're trying to make, but you're not driving it home.

[Jacquees]

All right, let's do 1000. All right, let's do 1000.

[Eden]

Like, if I buy you Fruit of the Looms, when you say, yo, I want some nice boxers, you be like, you went to Walmart.

[Jacquees]

All you gotta. Oh, I promise you, all they gotta do for me is be all black. I don't even I don't even.

[Eden]

You know what? I believe him. But this.

[Mandy]

I guess I'm not.

[Eden]

But you know what?

[Jacquees]

Like, I'm a different type of nigga.

[Eden]

So I thought the tote bag comment was crazy. I honestly was like, yo, this is some Bird shit.

[Jacquees]

Like, she looking for something else.

[Eden]

But I think the. What did I just say? But I think the main thing about it, that she's looking at that nigga.

[Jacquees]

Bags like, okay, if I get with him instantly, I'm gonna get what he get.

[Mandy]

But I'm not.

[Jacquees]

You can't think you getting with a man and get what he get.

[Mandy]

You said what?

[Eden]

You said he's a mortgage broker.

[Mandy]

He made like, 400. He does real estate.

[Jacquees]

But it's like, what a N make don't got.

[Eden]

No, no, no. It's not enough to be accepted.

[Mandy]

I mean, but he.

[Jacquees]

But I feel like what a man make don't got nothing to do with a woman. Nothing. It's like, I can.

[Mandy]

What a man make.

[Jacquees]

I just feel like I can have.

[Mandy]

Nothing to do with a woman.

[Jacquees]

No. I feel like I can make a million dollars. And you could work at Marshalls. I don't have to give you my money.

[Mandy]

We not gonna break up. Goddamn. That is cra. We're not gonna do it. We're not gonna do it. We're not gonna do it.

[Jacquees]

We.

[Mandy]

We done talked about the Marshall story enough. The audience knows about Marshall.

[Eden]

People did not believe it. He makes in the hundreds, millions, right? This. Started dating a girl. Was it TJ Maxx?

[Mandy]

It was TJ Maxx.

[Eden]

And literally, he was like. She cut it off with him because he was trying to give her money to go to school, do different shit. And she was like, I like managing a retail. Like, I went in retail.

[Jacquees]

So why. I mean, why did they break up? He was trying to. He was like, I'm not gonna deal with her.

[Eden]

She said that he wasn't happy with being with her. She believed it. And literally, he met her in the airport. She was going on some solo trip. And when he called me about it, he was like, yo, this bitch is so dope. Like, she's about to go backpack in a jungle by herself. And when he found out she made it to TJ Maxx, he said it was slightly embarrassing, but, like, he was.

[Jacquees]

How is that embarrassing? That should have turned him on more. He not a real nigga.

[Eden]

I think it's more so, like, I want the woman I'm with.

[Jacquees]

He not a real nigga.

[Eden]

Hold on. The woman.

[Mandy]

You only sticking up. Cause that's your friend, but let him talk. Let him get his shit off.

[Eden]

No, but how?

[Jacquees]

He's not a real nigga. This man just said Shawty worked at TJ Maxx. I was embarrassed. Let me tell you some real shit, DeAndre. That's my girl. Regardless, we just talking now. We just talking, right? If I was Jacques and my girl worked at fucking T.J. maxx, like, I would be. I would stand on that shit like, yeah, my girl, like, she love that shit. She the manager down there at TJ Maxx. And, hey, I ain't gonna tell y'all which one, but Shawty love that shit. That shit will turn me on more.

[Eden]

Okay, hold on.

[Jacquees]

Go buy Shawty everything.

[Eden]

TJ Maxx. I didn't think anything was wrong with him dating.

[Jacquees]

No, no, no.

[Eden]

But I started to understand.

[Jacquees]

I wanna buy her everything that she ever wanted, because it's like, she not looking for a N for nothing. He should have married her. You feel me?

[Eden]

Well, she broke up with him because she. He said he was making a lot of gestures to, like, start a business, give her money to do certain things. And she was like, yo, you really don't fuck with me. And cut him off.

[Jacquees]

I would say he was trying to buy her. Or, you want me to be her.

[Mandy]

You want me to be somebody.

[Eden]

Are men not allowed to want women in a different bracket?

[Jacquees]

I can want you in a different bracket, but is that what you want for yourself?

[Eden]

I can't ask you a serious question now, right? I got to be honest. While I agree, you make $100 million, it really don't matter where your bitch work. There was a point in time where he started to be like, I don't know if I could be with someone that don't really want more than a TJ Maxx.

[Mandy]

That's a real. But that. I'm not gonna lie.

[Eden]

I don't think that's wrong.

[Jacquees]

Nah, that's not wrong. That's.

[Eden]

Maybe he wasn't trying to buy her. Maybe he was like, bro, I ain't gonna lie.

[Jacquees]

The only part why I said it wasn't real, because he said he was embarrassed about her job. Now, if he want a woman that want to think hired, now, that's cool. Ain't nothing wrong with that. He just that type of nigga, you know what I'm saying? It's different types of guys. You know what I'm saying? He just like, well, shorty, I want a girl that want to be the President of the United States. You did what I'm saying? Like, I don't want a girl that just want to think at TJ Maxx. I want my girl to be the president of the United States.

[Mandy]

Why he want Kamala?

[Jacquees]

You know what I'm saying?

[Eden]

I mean, and honestly. Cause most niggas I went back and forth with.

[Jacquees]

How come most niggas don't care about all that? Most niggas just want to be with them. You got my back. That' you gonna make sure I'm good.

[Eden]

No, it's not. Niggas want teammates.

[Mandy]

He's a man.

[Jacquees]

I'm a man. What I want is someone that got my back, Someone I can depend on, someone who loves me.

[Eden]

Feel like that goes back to what I'm saying.

[Jacquees]

Someone who has confidence in me and someone that I could build with.

[Eden]

Would you say that if you worked at TJ Maxx?

[Jacquees]

What you mean? Tell me the truth.

[Eden]

Would you be just okay with someone that just supports you if you worked at TJ Maxx?

[Jacquees]

If I worked at TJ Maxx right now. Hold on. Wait, wait.

[Eden]

You're already someone that can be a provider.

[Jacquees]

What you mean, if I worked at TJ Maxx? Ask me the question.

[Eden]

What I'm saying is I think it is very easy for successful men to say it doesn't matter. That is it. I'm not asking a question. Before you said that, I said, rich niggas talk like that.

[Jacquees]

Rich.

[Mandy]

She said, if you worked at TJ Maxx, for maybe the men listening that have just the nine to fives, you.

[Eden]

Would need a teammate.

[Mandy]

Jacqueline, you would care one moment. I disagree with that, too. The question is, if you were not this super breadwinner or this famous person and you were just a regular 9 to 5 worker, would the woman you want, would you also still just want her to be your. The person that supports you, that is there for you, or would you want a partner?

[Jacquees]

It depends on what position I'm in. If I just got this million dollar plan and I'm like, hey, baby, all I need you to do is ride with me. You ain't gotta do nothing else. I just need a. You just need to support me right now. I got everything else. Then I don't need her for nothing.

[Mandy]

And Edin is.

[Eden]

That's my point.

[Mandy]

Edna's agreed, but it's a plan.

[Jacquees]

And then if I'm a nigga that's just sitting, you know, working at TJ Maxx, I'm like, shit, I do want a new house, but I don't feel like putting in that much work. I am gonna need a little. I Am gonna need somebody. Yeah. With the work ethic with you as a man. Yeah, it gonna have something to do with the work ethic because a woman is just extra. But then when a woman. When a man do get a woman, it does need to be a team, just like my girl. I like to depend on her for certain stuff, you know what I'm saying? I told her that before we got married, like, I mean, before we got engaged. I'm like, I'm gonna have to lean on you for certain stuff, you know, If I ever need you, you know what I'm saying, You gonna have to be there. I remember it was certain stuff we had to pay for for the baby shower. This one I knew I could marry. All right. We was going over the list about it 10 year. I'm looking at the expenses. So I see some shit for like 1,300, and it say paid. So I'm like, oh, shit. I'm thinking. But I'm thinking in my head, like.

[Mandy]

I didn't pay for this shit.

[Jacquees]

But I'm thinking. I'm like, okay. I'm like, hey, babe, this shit say paid. She was like, oh, yeah, I paid for that. I was like, oh, damn. Thank you, babe. I was like, that was dope. I was like, this. The marriage conversation I'm having, but she don't know. I'm like, I'm like, babe, that was dope. She was like, I'm like, see, I'm gonna need you to. I'm gonna need you to be doing that type of stuff. She was like, I only paid for that because I knew you was gonna get back. I'm like, what you mean? She was like, oh, yeah, I'm not paying for nothing else, right? So that's when I was kind of scared. My heart dropped like, fuck. So then I'm like. I'm like, I'm like, man. I'm like, nah, look, I ain't gonna be working hard for you to just like. I'm not putting everything in the pot for you to just be pulling out of it. I'm like, just imagine if I put in the pot. You put in the pot, and then now we got 10,000 in the pot. We wanna go to the mall, we take out 5,000. We got 5,000 left. You did what I'm saying? I'm like, you know what I'm saying? You bring 2,000 to the pot, I bring 3,000 to the pot. We got 5,000 in the pot. You know what I'm saying? She's sitting there listening. I'm like, yeah, just imagine I gonna make 15. You go make 3,000. We got 18,000. You did what I'm saying we want to take out 8,000. We got 10,000 in the pot. She like, yeah. I'm like, you know, we could just play like, do it like that. She like, oh, yeah. That makes sound like, yes. So I'm gonna be need you. You did what I'm saying, like. Cause I can't be out here hustling that hard and I'm making all my money and you just taking from the pot. That's not gonna add up. We ain't gonna look in the pot. I ain't gonna have. We ain't gonna have nothing. She like, oh, okay. That makes sense. Okay, well, okay, well, you can keep that on there. Oh, you don't gotta give me that back. That's why I was like, oh, I can marry.

[Mandy]

Thank you. I love that.

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[Mandy]

I want to play a quick video. We like reactionary. And then after this video and after this conversation, we gonna get into the nasty talk.

[Jacquees]

Let's do it.

[Mandy]

Okay. But for this one, this still has to do with a little bit of pop culture. Not sure if you saw a couple weeks ago, Nick Cannon was a guest on the God show. Shout out to Ray Daniels.

[Jacquees]

Okay. And Ray Daniels, that's my name.

[Mandy]

Yeah, that's my Nick.

[Eden]

I feel like Charlie. The only person that has showed that name. That's good.

[Mandy]

The Gods G A U D S. The God show. And so he went on there and pretty much spoke about his relationship with Mariah Carey and how he felt as a man in that relationship. You wanna go ahead and click that video and I want you to listen to what he had to say and then we'll respond.

[G]

I got married in my 20s still, you know what I mean? To the biggest star in the world. My trajectory was here and then hers. She's already in a different stratosphere. I would lay up at night thinking like, is is this who I am? Am I Mariah's man? Is that what my life is supposed to be. There's nothing wrong. But I'm like, ah, this ain't yourself. And then when you have children, your man is like, wait, I can't. I'm carrying the purse, the diaper bag. You know, I'm standing on the corner, you know, like, she rocking. Being a. All the alpha that.

[Mandy]

Well, by the way, she deserves it.

[Eden]

By the way, I believe she needs.

[G]

A dude like that. I'm just not that dude. Her and I never had problems.

[Jacquees]

Yeah.

[G]

Never argued. Never even. Even with. Even with me struggling in this space. She's so understanding and so evolved and lives in her own world. That's the thing. When someone has their own world and you got to be a participant in that. You know what I mean? Like, I'm. I'm main character.

[Jacquees]

It was like.

[G]

Like muscle atrophy. I'm not being the dude that God put me on this earth to be. The love kept me there even, you know, made it work so well because I was like, oh, you need somebody. You need a support system. You need somebody that don't want you for your money. You need somebody that's sincere. You need somebody that's willing to build a family, raise some, you know, amazing kids together. And that was my goal. But then there was just something constantly in me, like, I got it when I tell you.

[Mandy]

Hated everything about this clip because a. And also the fact that he left this relationship just to put babies in six other women. That's a whole nother topic.

[Eden]

But he was only 6.

[Mandy]

I mean, but he has. Yeah, he has twins. He has, like, two sets of twins. He got a whole bunch of. I don't know. He got a lot, though. He got like 12 or 9 or 35. I don't fucking know. He got a lot, though. There was a few, I would say, red flags about this. And I do wanna bring it up to you as someone who is now coming into a relationship as a father, but also with a woman who has her own life. And you entered her world right there. Was.

[Jacquees]

Did I?

[Mandy]

So we'll. And I wanna talk about it, because I do think we all have our own worlds. I think she entered your world in going on tour, and I think you entered her world, in fact, in the way her family moves.

[Jacquees]

That's true.

[Mandy]

In the way they celebrate holidays in her dad being on the pedestal that he's on and her name carrying the way they did. I know there was a conversation even about the last name of the baby for a long time. Right. So in this thing, he talks about needing to feel Alpha needing to be the main character in a relationship. How do you think. What is a healthy way for a man to show up in partnership without feeling like his manhood is attacked, when maybe he has to carry the diaper bag, Maybe he has to play the role of the quote unquote woman. Maybe he has to be more of the submissive. I think that's what Nick Cannon had the biggest problem with, being with someone that was alpha. He mentioned that. How does a man show up being a man while also leaning into his feminine in a relationship or not being the main character all the time?

[Jacquees]

Um, like the main character in a relationship. I don't really know about that. You know what I'm saying?

[Mandy]

Okay, so you didn't like that?

[Jacquees]

Yeah, I just don't know about that. You did what I'm saying.

[Eden]

What'd you take when you watched it? Did you feel like him saying he was in.

[Jacquees]

No. What? I just took from it. And Nick Cannon, my nigga, you know, we just talking. I feel like, you know, just from watching that, from a man's perspective of, like, just by me trying to get married or whatever, I'm just listening, you know what I'm saying? And I'm just thinking, like, okay, Nick seemed like. Nick seemed like, okay, Mariah Carey. Like, he said, like, she already who she is. You know what I'm saying? He got this woman, she already who she is. You know, he's already who he is. But like he said, he dealing with somebody up here. He's still trying to get up there, you know what I'm saying? So her world is automatically. Her system, automatically bigger than his system, you know what I'm saying? So it's like, he couldn't. It sounds like he like, man, I ain't all the way where I need to be in life. You know what I'm saying?

[Mandy]

Do you think it was him projecting his insecurities at the time?

[Jacquees]

I mean, I don't know. Like, from me listening, it just sound like, damn. He felt like, damn, I got this lady. I'm locking myself down. She already got her millions. I ain't got mine yet. Like, I need to go get my million.

[Mandy]

She definitely has them. Now, I wanna ask you, is there a difficulty. And let's generalize this. Is there a difficulty for men to be with women who are more successful or more accomplished than them that, you know, even with your friends and what conversations are normally had?

[Jacquees]

I don't know. I mean, shout out to the ladies, you know what I'm saying? I love the Women. But I don't think I've ever dated a woman that was more accomplished than me. Oh, that ain't no disrespect, okay? Women should want a man that's, like, doing their thing, you know what I mean? But I don't.

[Mandy]

Women should want a man that is more accomplished than them.

[Jacquees]

No, they should want a man that's accomplishing things, period. But if it just so happened that your man is accomplishing more than you, you shouldn't be jealous or anything. I'm just sitting down saying I've never known. I've never had that experience. I've never dated a woman with more than when I was young. Now I do know how I feel to like somebody and be around somebody with more than me. Like, when I was a young nigga, when I was coming in the game, I was around a lot of females that had paper. You did what I'm saying, like, I used to be around females. Like, 30,000 in their pocket. I had a thousand. Like, I know how that feels.

[Mandy]

How did that feel?

[Jacquees]

That just felt like I ain't made it yet. I'm like, damn, shot it and ballin'like. This is how it feel to be around me.

[Eden]

What about men? Cause I think now it's making me wonder. When you're around men that are more accomplished than you or have more money than you, does that make you your manhood feel?

[Jacquees]

It just depends. It just depends. That's some real shit, you know what I'm saying? It just depends. See, you have to get yourself in a state where you don't give a fuck about that. When you a young nigga, when you just in this shit for real, you could come around some n and you like, man, you know what I'm saying? Cause either who you done been with that made you feel insecure about something, or, you know, you just done feel like you ain't where you're supposed to be, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I feel like I ain't never been a hater, you know what I'm saying? So I never hated on what another nigga had, you know what I'm saying? But have I ever felt like it was places I was supposed to be, you know I wanted to be? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, I think that what.

[Eden]

You'Re saying, though, is interesting because it kind of shows whether you're you and Nick Cannon or cool how it is fucked up that when it comes to somebody, you're with a woman. Your masculinity is taken by their accomplishments.

[Jacquees]

Not me, though.

[Mandy]

Not you, based on what he said?

[Jacquees]

Oh, no. I love, like. I love, like, women that's accomplishing things. Like, I remember when I first started dating women, that was in the industry, I thought it was. I was fascinated because I was like, wow. Like, they, like, look how these people dressing them up. Like, they gotta get their makeup. Like they getting their hair done. Somebody doing their hair and their makeup at the same time. Like, these folks. I was, like, blown away. Like, this shit cool as fuck.

[Mandy]

Now you being blown away by the hair and makeup.

[Jacquees]

I had never seen that shit. Like, I was just a nigga. Like, coming from all the camps I was with in the industry, it just been, like, real camps. So it was never, like, no females in our camps. You know what I'm saying? And even if it was females in our camps, they weren't getting their makeup and hair done and shit. You know what I'm saying? So when I first seen that shit, I was just like, damn, that shit. Dope.

[Eden]

I will tell you this. Watching somebody go through glam, like, when, you know, like, famous, famous people, you be like, oh, shit. Like, when the stylist is changing the clothes and they not even touching their own body, like, what you lit.

[Jacquees]

Especially when you. I was just coming up. You know what I'm saying? So it's like. But just with anything, like, even with Dee, I'm happy for her. I'm trying to figure out a way how to get in there to make some more, you know what I'm saying?

[Mandy]

Can I ask you a question? And Eden, if you want to jump in on this, too, and we the. You, too. I think we use this word a lot. Jealousy is a human emotion. Right. Do you feel like it's healthy or natural or wrong to be jealous of your partner?

[Jacquees]

Wrong. Wrong. Yeah.

[Mandy]

Okay. Even though it. Okay. Cause I know we talk about it in friendship.

[Jacquees]

Like, what would be an example of being jealous of my partner?

[Eden]

Maybe your partner makes.

[Mandy]

Your partner makes more money than you.

[Jacquees]

Yeah, that's terrible.

[Eden]

You know, partnership. I think it's wrong in jealousy. We've been having in friendship. We've been having this conversation. I think there's a malicious jealousy. And then, for example, let's just say we sitting here and Mandy's like, bitch, fashion Nova just about to take me on a trip to Choice, and cake goes, fuck you. I don't not want her to have this, but I'm gonna be a little jealous I'm not on the beach. Or a little jealous that I didn't get chosen.

[Jacquees]

But you ain't gotta be a little jealous. You could just be like, oh, damn. Like, damn, that shit would've been fine if I would have came. But you could really have no emotion.

[Eden]

But that's the thing, that jealousy that I'm talking about for something like this, I think that's a real emotion that can be natural and human.

[Jacquees]

Yeah, like, you would want that, but not at the expense of her losing it.

[Eden]

Exactly. I don't want you to not get.

[Jacquees]

It, but I wish I can get it.

[Eden]

I wish I can get it, like, on a peer level. The reason I think romantically it gets tough is because partnership is sharing a bit. And if you can't share in this pleasure that I'm getting, you can't be excited for me because you want this thing, too. When it gets there, that's me.

[Jacquees]

Yeah, that's very tough. And that happens in relationships, especially when y'all both do the same thing. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying?

[Mandy]

That's why I don't want no podcaster.

[Jacquees]

Yeah, like, that's.

[Eden]

You know, I always used to think about jealousy with Kim and Kanye.

[Jacquees]

I mean, like, when you. Yeah, that's.

[Eden]

I always thought, like, you got the biggest of each thing, right?

[Mandy]

B and J. I don't know.

[Eden]

I feel like B and J stay.

[Mandy]

On camera, not E and J.

[Jacquees]

No, B and J. I'm saying, like.

[Mandy]

Beyonce and Jay and Jay Z. Nah, they don't count. Why they don't count? They do the same shit.

[Jacquees]

Enj's hilarious, by the way.

[Mandy]

I was like. No, I random.

[Eden]

Yeah, but you know what it is? They're both really the best of their own artistry.

[Jacquees]

Yeah.

[Eden]

So I think with Kim and Kanye, it's like, Kim's kind of famous for nothing. Not saying she's not a businesswoman, but it's like, she's so fucking famous. Everybody's on her dick. Kanye literally makes art. I hate this nigga, but, like, literally makes art.

[Mandy]

I love him.

[Eden]

I know damn well, look at what he did. He done burst the fucking maggots.

[Mandy]

Speaking of birthing shit, you had some baby making sex to become a father.

[Jacquees]

Yes, I did.

[Mandy]

And I love the baby project. We gotta get into baby making.

[Jacquees]

Come on.

[Mandy]

We gotta get into it. This is where y'all, if you were ready to hear how nasty and freaky this motherfucker be getting in the bed. He is not on the market, y'all, so just sit in your puddles at work. You cannot have this man, but let's talk about baby making. Let's get into it. I just like to ask this question to all artists before we get into the music. Do you fuck to your own music? Because I ain't gonna hold you. DeAndre already told me she sneaks you into the playlist. And I'm like, bro, why would you do that? Why would you sneak your nigga into the playlist that maybe he don't wanna hear himself?

[Jacquees]

She got a song she like from me. Yeah.

[Mandy]

What's the song that ends up coming on?

[Jacquees]

It's a song called Always. It's me and my cousin. She love that song.

[Mandy]

And it's on the. It's on the.

[Jacquees]

It's on the playlist.

[Mandy]

It's on the playlist.

[Jacquees]

Yeah, but I got. Yeah, like it play.

[Eden]

You feel me fucking the dick to the song.

[Mandy]

To the song that I made.

[Jacquees]

That ain't nothing, though. That's fine.

[Mandy]

So you know what I'm saying? You like fucking in your music?

[Jacquees]

Yeah. I mean, you know, you make it to fuck too. I mean. Yeah, like, you know, put to use.

[Mandy]

Yeah.

[Jacquees]

That's how you know it's. That's how you know it's lit.

[Eden]

Ooh, wait, you telling me when it don't randomly come on, you don't be like, oh, shit, what the fuck?

[Jacquees]

Nah. But you know, sometimes. Sometimes you be like, damn, here I go.

[Eden]

Yo, I'm not gonna lie to you.

[Jacquees]

You know what I mean?

[Mandy]

I've had a song come on to.

[Eden]

A, and I was someone else, and I was like, okay, no, wait, I do.

[Jacquees]

Oh, you heard A. Oh, Oh, I do.

[Mandy]

I do have a question, because I know you was working. Like, I don't know how long you've been working on this project, but you know how they be talking about, there ain't no baby making music now happening in the R B is just toxic and they not making it to where you want to love anymore. So is there a time where you go into the studio, you record a song, and then you put it to the test in the bedroom to see if it hits like it should? In the bedroom?

[Jacquees]

Yeah. I think this baby making project for real got put to some.

[Mandy]

Put to use, not put to use.

[Jacquees]

Yeah.

[Mandy]

So wait, you tested it out in the bedroom already?

[Jacquees]

Yeah. She loved this project.

[Mandy]

Okay.

[Jacquees]

Yeah, she loved this one.

[Mandy]

And so what can. What can we expect from it? And I do also.

[Jacquees]

It's one of them. Like, it's like, if you talking sex, like, with your partner with this album.

[Mandy]

We about to have a baby boom in 20, 24.

[Jacquees]

Yeah, it's like. Cause you can go for the ride. You know what I'm saying? It's like you can go for the ride. Like, you can go. You got your shit. Like it gonna start off how you want it to. Like, that's just a. Like, honestly, if you. Like, I think this. Me, this just me, right? If I'm doing this shit, I'mma already be in it before I press play. Cause the first song touchdown.

[Eden]

I'm not. I'm saying.

[Jacquees]

You get what I'm saying?

[Eden]

It kind of makes me want to play it and have a plan B right there.

[Mandy]

Not a plan B. Yeah, but you.

[Jacquees]

Need to be already like, have it on your tongue. You know what I'm saying? Like, already going in.

[Eden]

You know what I mean?

[Mandy]

You know what? Can I ask you a question in terms of you got baby making, right? I want to ask you, what is the difference between good sex and lovemaking? Or do you feel like there's a difference?

[Jacquees]

I know that's a real question.

[Mandy]

I know we talked about our good engineer, Wolf. He don't even like eye contact, so I don't think he's ever made love. Yeah, but I'm curious.

[Eden]

Is that true, Wolf? Have you never made love before?

[Mandy]

Have you ever made love?

[Jacquees]

Wolf ain't never looked that one up, twin. Not in their eyes. He never looked that one up.

[Mandy]

So what is the difference to you between just a good round of sex and actually making love?

[Jacquees]

I think like sex is like, that shit could just like feel good, you know what I'm saying? Like, sex just feel good, you know what I'm saying? And then after you nut, it's like, fuck it. Like, fuck you. Fuck this.

[Mandy]

Okay, Edit. You laughed way too hard, right?

[Jacquees]

You know? Cause I get it, you know what I'm saying?

[Eden]

We get that too, though.

[Jacquees]

It's like so. But it's like when you making love, it's like, damn, I love you. You know what I'm saying? You might roll over, you sit in it.

[Eden]

Yeah, I can't wait to get my smoothie in the morning with you.

[Jacquees]

How you ever just got done and looked in the sky just like, damn, we did that. That's how I be fooled.

[Mandy]

I just be like, that's you looking at the sky.

[Jacquees]

Then I always get something to eat. Honey, you want something to eat? Hell yeah. Hell yeah.

[Eden]

I don't know why feeding a dude after we fuck. And it's specific to love bacon. It be like the extra little layer.

[Mandy]

Is that intimate? Did. Do you want food from Somebody you just fucked.

[Jacquees]

You see this stomach? I mean, yeah, it's like. I mean, yeah, for sure. It's like you gotta have the food. You feel me? The food, just a part of it. You either gonna eat before or after. Mm.

[Mandy]

Okay.

[Jacquees]

Get what I'm saying? You got to have the food. It's a part of it.

[Mandy]

Before or after?

[Jacquees]

See what I'm saying?

[Mandy]

You gonna get a wet rag warm, bro.

[Eden]

You know what's my favorite thing? After you get after you got that good ass session. And then they just be like, ugh, like they can't move.

[Mandy]

I love when a nice.

[Eden]

I love seeing a little weakness. I'm not saying I'm a dog or anything, but I love when I just see a limp body.

[Jacquees]

So you like a nigga to go to sleep.

[Eden]

I just want to know that.

[Mandy]

Like, I want a. To say his knees is out. Yeah, I want a nigga, he can't walk. He get off the bed and he almost stumble because he don't know how to work his leg.

[Eden]

Oh, yeah, that's my ego. I don't know if I can put a picture of my ass on Instagram and get a million likes or that. That. It's the same feeling.

[Mandy]

No, when. When a nigga, like, smiles after sex, I feel empowered. What is that for men? What can a woman do? The smile that makes you know you just did your. Don't ask her. Did you come, babe? No. No words. What actions happened to let you know you just laid it down for a man? Yes.

[Jacquees]

She can't move.

[Mandy]

She can't move.

[Jacquees]

Yeah, it's like some nigga, maybe the.

[Mandy]

AC was off and I'm like, nah, nah.

[Jacquees]

It's like, either. I think either. I think either she like, go to sleep. You know what I'm saying? She go to sleep or she like. You know when she, like, look at you and then like, look at the gate.

[Eden]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jacquees]

You know what I'm saying? Like, it one of them look at you. It's them, bro.

[Eden]

You know what I'm doing? It's so bad, I start crying.

[Mandy]

What do you do? You cry.

[Eden]

Oh, my God. But then literally, if it's crying and.

[Jacquees]

Shit, you like, man, get your shit.

[Eden]

So when the tears come out, though, it's not even super emotional. It's just like this crazy. I came so hard the first time I cried with a dude that I wasn't, like, close to or anything like that. In the middle of crying, I was like, it's not you. It's just a release.

[Mandy]

You know what I Need. I think I need to lean into my feminine. Cause I be like, you ain't never cried, bitch. Bitch, I be. When it's done, this is how I hang. Shit. I be like, you did that?

[Jacquees]

You did that?

[Deondra]

Yeah.

[Eden]

That's why you. That's why you cussed him out. By that part.

[Mandy]

You gotta be a little bit more fit. I'll be like, you did that. All right, girl.

[Jacquees]

I cried.

[Eden]

I cried in that threesome, y'all. They don't know it. Cause I was like, I can't cry in front of this whole. We just met. But I came so hard, I started crying.

[Mandy]

And I know Shot is looking at.

[Eden]

I tried to do one of these with the hair so they didn't see the tears.

[Mandy]

I was like, ooh, I gave a nigga a high five one time.

[Jacquees]

Like, boy, that was it. See, You a gangster.

[Mandy]

Like, I'm working on it. I need to. I need to be. Maybe I gotta get eye drops to.

[Eden]

Go Think what you see? He said, gangster.

[Mandy]

You said what?

[Eden]

The text that you were sharing on the tour where you said, gang, this dick in your mouth.

[Mandy]

Oh, yeah. No, no, no, no, cuz. So last tour was you on. Okay, hold on.

[Eden]

So last, you know, we do our podcast last year.

[Mandy]

Last year, we were on tour, and we decided to share text messages with what our booty calls look like, right? And my booty call, I text this nigga like, where you at? And he was like. Or it was like I said, what's up? And he said, what's up, gang? And I was like, come gang that dick in my mouth. That's kind of how we talk. And that was how we set it up. And I don't see how we set it up. I don't see shit wrong with that.

[Jacquees]

That's your lingo, you feel me? I mean, that's how you coming. That's the. Your niggas know that you right.

[Mandy]

Maybe I could be more feminine and get these niggas be like.

[Jacquees]

But then your niggas ain't gonna. Y'all gonna lose y'all funness. That's y'all thing.

[Mandy]

Okay, I like that.

[Eden]

Yeah. Do you have lovemaking moments?

[Mandy]

Don't do this.

[Eden]

I'm serious, bitch.

[Mandy]

I make love. I did. In my last relationship, we made love. We cried one time together, but we were on shrooms, so I don't know if that helped.

[Jacquees]

I used to cry all the time.

[Mandy]

Wait.

[Jacquees]

When I first got with DeAndre.

[Mandy]

Wait, you cried?

[Jacquees]

I just be out of town some shit I probably just think about.

[Mandy]

She no have you ever cried?

[Jacquees]

I was trying to see how much she loved me.

[Mandy]

Have you ever cried during sex?

[Jacquees]

Wait, wait, wait.

[Eden]

You were doing a little fake time.

[Jacquees]

I was just trying to say I faked the injury and everything one time. Oh, my God.

[Eden]

It's like us with pregnancy.

[Mandy]

Hold on, hold on. You know, I'm triggered. The nigga sent me an old picture in the hospital, so. What you mean you faked the injury?

[Jacquees]

I had the wheelchair and everything.

[Mandy]

Nope.

[Jacquees]

They had the folk pushing me and everything.

[Mandy]

Wait, wait, wait.

[Jacquees]

Then I just hopped out the wheelchair, like, man, that ain't hurt. I just want to see how much you love Elaine.

[Eden]

Oh, girl, I hate.

[Mandy]

Don't test me.

[Eden]

You really in love.

[Mandy]

Don't test me.

[Jacquees]

I'll tell you the truth. What is wrong with you?

[Eden]

You know what? When you get in love like that, you start doing dumb shit. Oh, I might have to cut this. You know what me and my nigga did the other day?

[Jacquees]

Oh, what?

[Mandy]

Nope. Keep it in. We not edited it.

[Eden]

He wasn't answering the phone, right? And I was like, oh, my God. Answer the phone. Da, da, da, da. He's like, damn, babe. I was on the toilet. I was like, I want to be in there with you. Oh, I want to be in there with you when you shitting.

[Jacquees]

Girls do that.

[Eden]

I want to see it.

[Jacquees]

Girls like that.

[Mandy]

Wait, you want to be in the bathroom while he shitting?

[Jacquees]

When they really into you.

[Eden]

Take the FaceTime. Put it. I want to see.

[Mandy]

Wait, wait. You wanted to. You asked him and you wanted to be in the bathroom while he was taking.

[Jacquees]

Girls be wanting to do some crazy shit.

[Mandy]

Y'all calm down. Calm down.

[Eden]

He be doing the same shit now. Bitch, I locked the door. He be like, uh, let me. You know, I want to see that.

[Mandy]

He wants to see the turd. You want to hear his pop into the toilet?

[Eden]

I'm fucking crazy. I'm in love with this nigga.

[Mandy]

Okay, you know why I don't want to see that? Because I really.

[Jacquees]

Oh, you love, bro.

[Mandy]

I eat ass. I don't want to be in the bathroom.

[Eden]

You should see me on my period.

[Mandy]

Smell your shit. I actually want to believe you never.

[Eden]

Shit, I can't believe I'm here. I cannot wait to get past this face.

[Mandy]

I. E. Ass way too much to want to see you on the toilet. Like, I wanna know everything I gotta do. I don't even wanna imagine that a nigga sit on the seat. I know that you use the bathroom standing up, sir. I want to keep that in my mind, dog.

[Eden]

I'M be honest with you. My love done gone too far. It went too far. Like, literally.

[Jacquees]

You about ready to be two girls in one cup, bro.

[Eden]

We was talking about doing some shit under the full moon. I was like, let's cut our hands and do some blood brother shit.

[Jacquees]

Oh, hell no. Y'all on some white boy shit.

[Eden]

No, I'm in love. He got. Nah, see, I got a different type of dread. He. He the wolf type. He the whole type, nigga. You know what I'm saying?

[Mandy]

Like a ho type.

[Eden]

He wants to fast in the morning, only eat raw fruits and shit. So he already on that crazy ass. Like, you really connect with people when they're that spiritual. It be feeling like they don't have a limit. Like, what we gonna do next? Yes, let's talk to Yay. My lot. Like, who. Who's up there?

[Mandy]

Soon y'all gonna be sparing each other's shit on each other. Like symbols.

[Eden]

Wow.

[Mandy]

Put that across.

[Eden]

Once we peed Once I peed in the whole. Like, once we did the pee, then I knew. Oh, yeah, what's the pee?

[Mandy]

Oh, yeah, she peed on him.

[Jacquees]

Oh, you peed on you Each other and what that means?

[Eden]

I just felt like I marked my territory. Like, that's my.

[Jacquees]

He did, like. Yeah, like, drenched her, bro. Like, drenched her. Like, for real?

[Eden]

Yeah, we were in Tulum. It doesn't count.

[Jacquees]

No, whoa.

[Mandy]

Because we were in another country.

[Eden]

Oh, no. I did it during that Vegas trip.

[Jacquees]

We, like, hold on. I got to be.

[Eden]

You know what's crazy? I used to think this was so much. I thought it was crazy. But then I was like, oh, no, you really gotta love a nigga.

[Jacquees]

So what he. How you do it?

[Eden]

Like, so we was in. I be asking questions like this too. We was in Vegas. We went to the porn awards. We were up for a podcast award. We drunk. We went to Jeezy with Mandy. Whatever. Uh, I'm in the bathtub.

[Mandy]

Don't do the whoop. The whoop.

[Eden]

Just.

[Mandy]

Cause quee here.

[Jacquees]

Yeah.

[Eden]

New York. So I'm in the bathtub. He about to go to the bathroom. I was like, wait, wait, wait.

[Mandy]

Cause you was in the sun.

[Jacquees]

She like, let do it on me. Each feet on your face, too.

[Mandy]

Wait, wait, wait, hold on.

[Eden]

Let me tell you what made me mad. So the first time, right? It was just the chest, but for some reason, because I asked for it again. He was like, no, no, open your mouth. I was like, hold on.

[Mandy]

But you gonna kiss me.

[Jacquees]

Oh, you.

[Eden]

I didn't do it. Not me.

[Mandy]

I'M celibate. I don't even have sex.

[Eden]

I'm not ready to drink the beer.

[Jacquees]

Yeah, Voice.

[Mandy]

No. No liquor and no sex.

[Jacquees]

For real. What the happened to you? Nah, for real. N. What?

[Mandy]

I'm going for 90 days.

[Jacquees]

Okay.

[Eden]

Just on some laugh, cuz. Mandy was like, yo, this shit ain't funny. But that was really funny, cuz. You know what? We all do this.

[Mandy]

These niggas.

[Eden]

Every time I meet somebody that tells me they haven't been drinking for four years, I'm like, did they kill somebody?

[Mandy]

You know, just going through sobriety.

[Jacquees]

And that's beautiful, though.

[Mandy]

It is. Thank you. It's tough, but, you know, I feel it. I'm getting through it.

[Eden]

How are you?

[Mandy]

Back to the album? What is your favorite?

[Eden]

Yeah, back to the album. PP Love and not pp Girl, you crazy.

[Mandy]

PP Love is not on the album.

[Jacquees]

By the way, my favorite song, probably. Honestly, to be real, probably middle of the night and sex like this.

[Mandy]

Ooh.

[Eden]

Smell like this Sound good.

[Mandy]

I'm like, middle of the night now. We both went with the dinner, but.

[Jacquees]

I really love all of them. It's like, tomorrow I might have some more favorites. It's one of them type of albums.

[Mandy]

Deandra said her favorite was Drip. Ok. Now I know. I like to be able to think of what things are about. I assume it's about the dripping of a pussy.

[Jacquees]

Of course.

[Mandy]

Yeah.

[Jacquees]

Yeah.

[Mandy]

The whole song.

[Jacquees]

It's like, she got that drip, not the pee drip. It's like when they.

[Mandy]

It's not the pee drip.

[Jacquees]

It's like when they ask me why I fuck with you, I say it is what it is. She got that drip.

[Eden]

Is the pregnancy drip crazy?

[Jacquees]

Yeah, it's like super crazy. Now it's extra crazy. Like, it's like. I thought it was crazy. Now it's crazy. I didn't know babies make it better. Oh, so you ain't got no kid.

[Mandy]

Neither of us do.

[Jacquees]

Oh, man. God. Gotta go have one. Whoa. Whoa. Yeah.

[Eden]

I'm gonna be honest with you.

[Mandy]

I like my pussy.

[Eden]

So I started taking pictures for my hair.

[Jacquees]

It'll be different.

[Eden]

I wanted my hair to grow. My pussy was so crazy. And I literally thought, I'm gonna get pregnant if I keep this up.

[Jacquees]

Yeah, bruh.

[Eden]

It was like I was peeing on myself. It was crazy.

[Mandy]

Nope.

[Jacquees]

So what your man say he ain't get you pregnant, bruh.

[Eden]

We had to step. We had to. We had to. We had to take a halt.

[Mandy]

Calm down. We have a work coming up, sir. Jesus Christ.

[Eden]

I know. Baby want kids.

[Mandy]

We have work to do.

[Eden]

No, we're planning on getting this album.

[Jacquees]

You gonna get pregnant.

[Mandy]

Nope. I'm now gonna ban it from home.

[Jacquees]

No, don't ban. Okay. You ain't gonna get that.

[Eden]

Do you know Mandy met my nigga? We all got drunk, we had a good time.

[Mandy]

We went out, and I said I.

[Eden]

Could hear her telling him, no, I'm glad y'all happy and shit, but me and this bitch got a tour to God. And I ain't got to have this whole pregnant like, yo, our family planning.

[Mandy]

Okay?

[Eden]

You lucky this fibroid shrinking slow.

[Mandy]

We got shit going on.

[Jacquees]

Real talk.

[Mandy]

Don't take her out.

[Jacquees]

You want to get pregnant, though. I see it in your eye.

[Eden]

No, I'm gonna tell you why. The other day, we was out. We was dancing. We was out till 4 in the morning. We was having fun. We love going out to, like. I'm a piano shit. And, like, Afrobeats parties.

[Jacquees]

Y'all different. I fuck with y'all.

[Eden]

Y'all like, we love a dance party, disco party. Like, he loves Soul Train type shit.

[Jacquees]

Y'all like soulmates.

[Eden]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Jacquees]

Y'all peeing on each other and shit. Y'all, like, crazy.

[Eden]

No, we woke up and he was like, bro, like, imagine if we had a baby right now.

[Mandy]

Who wants to do that?

[Eden]

Because it hit like, yo, I just had a bad day. We ended up, you know, it's New York shit, though. Five in the morning, he was like, I don't know. We was saying two years, maybe three. And I think there's a lot of things that get scary.

[Jacquees]

So y'all use a condom every time y'all fall.

[Eden]

No, I'm on birth control.

[Mandy]

Do I not look like a cream ride?

[Jacquees]

Girl, you on birth control. You got to get off of that.

[Mandy]

What are your thoughts?

[Jacquees]

Wait.

[Mandy]

What are your thoughts on birth control?

[Jacquees]

I think y'all should have a baby.

[Mandy]

No, no, no, no. Calm down. Do you have. Do you have general thoughts on women being on birth control?

[Jacquees]

No, I just, like, heard it got, like.

[Mandy]

There's a lot of bad side effects.

[Jacquees]

Yeah. Like. You know what I'm saying? It's like, now it's like, all right, everybody grown. Like, just tell your boy pull out.

[Eden]

Yeah, we are growing.

[Mandy]

The pull out method does not work.

[Jacquees]

That shit works, bro.

[Eden]

Did you just hear this? HL Logic. Everybody gonna tell him to pull out.

[Mandy]

Oh, my God. The pull out method does work.

[Jacquees]

Don't say that. If you with your man now.

[Eden]

When you got that drip, bruh. Let me tell you, when we were in Atlanta, for the Black Effect show. I wasn't on birth control. Right. He didn't pull out. And he literally, after he came still inside of me, I said, are you about to. Are you telling me you. He's like, I'm so sorry. I know you don't want to hear this, but that shit was so good.

[Mandy]

And I'm like, no, I gotta be.

[Eden]

On motherfucking plan B. No, after that, that was when birth control started.

[Jacquees]

Cause you like, I ain't having no baby.

[Eden]

You know what it is? It's the anxiety of not being able to plan. I would love to have children with this person, but at the end of.

[Jacquees]

You should plan it.

[Eden]

Yeah, I really wanna plan it.

[Jacquees]

I mean, if you can.

[Mandy]

I know that I was about to say, if you're dealing with a nigga who believes the pull out method. Not really.

[Eden]

Yeah, we see how that baby happened.

[Mandy]

I mean, you're pulling out.

[Jacquees]

I wasn't pulling out, though. Oh, like, that's the thing about it.

[Eden]

All right.

[Jacquees]

Like, some niggas just know, like, yeah, I'm not pulling out. That was me. Just. Oh, yeah. Like.

[Mandy]

And clearly you're swimmer.

[Jacquees]

Swim, my niggas. Get up through there.

[Mandy]

You know what?

[Eden]

I've always wanted to ask somebody on this podcast. Not you. I've always wanted to ask a man just like a whole ass nigga to come out. Like, how many abortions have you had that. Oh, it's such a hard question to ask somebody. Like, we don't ask women that. But like.

[Jacquees]

But a man never had an abortion.

[Eden]

But you don't know how many you paid for.

[Jacquees]

A man never had a. I had.

[Eden]

A. Homeboy told me he paid for 11.

[Jacquees]

Wow.

[Mandy]

Whoa. That's crazy nasty.

[Eden]

Yep. And you know what? He look good and he rich. And I bet every be waiting on it. He was like, yo, I be at the dough. He's like, I literally. He's like, I be strap up, though.

[Mandy]

No, that's.

[Eden]

A lot of men have entitlement and they don't care about the baby.

[Jacquees]

I mean, but he shouldn't be nutting them knowing that he don't want a baby.

[Mandy]

Yeah, I agree.

[Jacquees]

It's like he putting her through unnecessary. The ringer. Yeah.

[Eden]

Oh, my goodness.

[Mandy]

Hello. Yeah, it's like, you know the Internet gonna like you.

[Jacquees]

Yeah. It's like, why the fuck you busting at a fool?

[Eden]

You know what? I really appreciate you saying this. Because the selfishness of men being so detached from a pregnancy. It exists.

[Jacquees]

Yeah. But it's like, why blessing her, bro?

[Mandy]

If you don't want to kiss.

[Jacquees]

That don't make sense. That's the dumbest shit ever.

[Eden]

Hello, Nick. Sorry.

[Mandy]

No, he want them 15 kids from her, not you. Hey, all of our opinions are ones of our own.

[Eden]

No. What Not. I'm actually. I'm not even gonna say Nick Cannon. He does seem like he was intentionally having a bunch of kids. Who's the little young nigga that got 25 kids and he's still 22 or something?

[Mandy]

Young boy who might be going to jail.

[Eden]

NBA Young Boy. Is that it?

[Mandy]

And Dirk.

[Jacquees]

Free Young boy.

[Mandy]

Sorry, Anderk.

[Jacquees]

Dirk.

[Eden]

Wait, is it Dirk got 12k.

[Mandy]

He said free everybody. But he got a lot of kids. Both of them got a lot of keys.

[Eden]

No, I know one of them got like 10 at 22.

[Jacquees]

Young boy has. Yeah, 11 at 23. Damn. YB got 11 kids, little bro. He just welcomed. Yeah, 11.

[Mandy]

He just welcomed a new one in 2023.

[Jacquees]

He welcomed a little. Oh, sorry. Oh, yeah, I'm sorry. Yeah, 12.

[Eden]

Hold on. Wait. Is this the dude that be like, I don't want to fuck. Me too.

[Jacquees]

That's my.

[Eden]

That's an elite choppa. I don't know the young.

[Mandy]

You don't know NBA Youngboy?

[Eden]

Sometimes I get confused with the nle. Chocolate or Young Boy. Then the other ones.

[Jacquees]

Yeah, the letters.

[Mandy]

It's a lot. It's a lot, but I. I know the difference.

[Eden]

Hold on. 11.

[Mandy]

12.

[Eden]

Sorry, when do you. 12?

[Mandy]

Yeah, 12.

[Eden]

He's only 22.

[Jacquees]

Gotta make it even.

[Mandy]

How many?

[Eden]

How do you.

[Jacquees]

24.

[Eden]

Do you think he knows all their names?

[Mandy]

I mean, he just had one with Mayweather Daughter.

[Eden]

Oh, yeah, that's right.

[Mandy]

Now you know what we talking about anyway, baby, making out now. Where can everybody listen? By the way, I would like to say too, when we have artists, if you really want to support your artists, make sure you purchase, not just stream, so you can go into the App Store. How much is it? 9.99. 1099. 1299. I think it's like 9.9999, baby. Y'all pay that shit for Netflix and y'all don't even like all the shows on that bitch. If you want to support artists, make sure you drop that 9.99 in the App Store.

[Eden]

Let's just say it costs $50 with the plan.

[Jacquees]

And you can go to the store and buy this album, too. On November 15th. It'll be in the stores.

[Mandy]

Okay, so you go buy a physical copy.

[Jacquees]

It's out now. November 15th. Y'all can go get it in the Stores. Baby making.

[Eden]

Wait, for real? I'm not even trying to be funny.

[Mandy]

Wait, where do people go buy albums now? Like at your Target, Walmart?

[Jacquees]

Well, I'm not sure.

[Eden]

Where are they putting it in?

[Jacquees]

Yeah, you just look it up online. You can find it online.

[Eden]

Is it like a vinyl for fun?

[Jacquees]

Nah, but I ain't gonna lie. At your local stores, they sell like CDs or. Or probably like selected, like Walmarts and Targets. You can get like. No kids.

[Eden]

Yeah, I'm gonna buy this album. But where are we gonna put it?

[Jacquees]

What do you mean we gonna put it?

[Mandy]

What are you gonna. Wait, what do you play a CD in now?

[Jacquees]

I got. Well, I ain't gonna lie. I took. I changed my c. My cars. I had a car with a CD player. I changed. That's what.

[Mandy]

Where do we play a CD now?

[Jacquees]

I played in the car.

[Eden]

What car did you have with a CD player in it?

[Jacquees]

You gotta think. My Lambo, when I first got it, that was a two.

[Eden]

Oh, I know.

[Mandy]

My Lambo. It was old. Let everyone know where they can follow you, support you. Y'all, Baby Making is out in stores now.

[Jacquees]

Yes, it's out. Y'all can follow me Ocqueese, if you haven't already. J, A, C, Q, U, E, E S Jacquees. That's on everything. Love y'all. Y'all know what it is.

[Mandy]

And y'all already know. If you want to support us and hear more whoreass stories, make sure you go to Patreon. That's patreon.com backslash. Horrible decision.

[Eden]

I'll tell you the plan B story.

[Mandy]

And yeah, y'all make sure y'all have a good one. And we'll see y'all next week. Same time. Baby.

[Jacquees]

You wake up, put on your Ray Ban Meta glasses. You're living all day. You realize you need coffee, so you.

[Colleen Witt]

Say, hey Meta, how do I make a latte?

[Deondra]

Brew two shots of espresso?

[Jacquees]

After Meta AI gets you caffeinated, you're.

[Mandy]

Ready for some beats.

[Colleen Witt]

Hey Meta. Play hip hop music.

[Mandy]

You head to meet some friends but.

[Jacquees]

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[Colleen Witt]

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[Jacquees]

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[Mandy]

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[Jacquees]

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[Eden]

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[Jacquees]

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[Eden]

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[Mandy]

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And nearly half of survivors delay leaving.

[Mandy]

Because they can't bring their pets with them.

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[Mandy]

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[Colleen Witt]

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[Mandy]

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