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Call it out.
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Angela Yee
He's a donkey. Oh man. Charlemagne, you giving donkey today? To who now? Well, Busta Rhymes, Donkey of the day for Wednesday, February 26th goes to Sean Simpson. Sean Simpson is a 16 year old North Carolina teenager who broke down in tears after in court after being charged as an adult for murder. Let's go to Fox 46 for the report, please.
News Reporter
Sean Simpson came into Gaston County Court at points wiping away his tears as he stood before a judge. Just 16 years old. He's being charged with first degree murder as an adult. That's as a result of a law change that went into effect in December which allows teens his age to be charged as an adult in certain crimes. There was a realization that during this proceeding that the gravity was hitting him. A grand jury indictment that come in the near future. And a moment that hit when a judge told him that he would not be seeing freedom anytime soon.
Angela Yee
Court made him as a hold without bond. Court finds sufficient allegations to support the charges.
News Reporter
Something that Sequavius Dawkins family says they needed to be here for. Simpson accused of killing Dawkins Sunday night along Chester Street. Simpson also accused with attempted first degree murder involving another victim. Dawkins family says he was going to get medical supplies for his mother when he was killed.
Angela Yee
I would say this is a teachable moment, but I've been alive 46 years and I haven't seen too many of you learn yet. Okay, all of these are reruns, sadly. I don't understand why we aren't breaking this cycle. I don't understand why we aren't learning. I mean, truthfully, this was me at 16 or 17. Of course, I never killed anyone, but I've been in dumbass situations like this. When I was 16 or 17, I went to jail for assault and Barry would intend to kill. Okay, the charge got changed. The point in presenting a firearm. But I was literally just in the backseat of a car and one of my homies shot at another car. Just dumb and young and reckless. Wasn't about nothing. Just teenage kids who don't really know any better. I wrote about it in my first book, Black Privilege. Opportunity comes to those who create it. And the reason I'm telling this story is because when my homie shot, there was three people in the car. The bullet hit the headrest of deceit. Nobody was sitting in the empty seat behind the passenger seat. But what if that seat wasn't empty? Did not go to jail for accessory to murder Unless I snitched, which I probably would have. My point is trouble is easy to get into and hard to get out of. And none of us have the time stone from the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Okay? The time stone allows the user to control time. You can rewind, fast forward, travel through time. When you see this young man, Sean Simpson, break down like that in court, don't you think he wish he had a Time stone so he could rewind the time and not do what he did. Of course he would. Of course. Okay, Shawn and the young man he killed, Zaquivius Dawkins, had a fight, according to People magazine, the previous year at Ashbrook High School. I don't know who won the fight, but it clearly wasn't Shawn. And guess what, kids, you gotta learn to take an ass whipping, okay? Because these are just all hypotheticals I'm about to spew. But if you fight, get your ass whipped, even if it goes viral, so what? Okay? When anger rises, think of the consequences. Would you rather go viral because you got your ass beat in school, or would you rather go viral because you in the courtroom getting charged with murder? And then when you get charged with murder, you looking like Simba screaming. Screaming out after Mufasa got trampled by the wildebeest. Okay? This is exactly what Simba felt in that moment. A mix of shock, grief and disbelief. But the grief you feel spending the rest of your life in jail because you're getting charged as an adult isn't the same as the grief Zaquavius mother feels. So I don't feel bad for you, okay? I'm sad about the situation because two young black men aren't gonna have a. And society, you know, keeps failing these young men. I read that Sean is being held in the Gaston Adolescent center where he has been undergoing treatment. Okay? The center treats children and adolescents that have significant emotional and behavioral difficulties. Now, I'm not the highest grade of weed in the dispensary, but why wasn't he getting this treatment before he committed a murder? I guess I still gotta say allegedly, but allegedly. Okay? There had to be signs. There had to be some type of disciplinary issues at home and in school, but those signs were clearly ignored. But of course, we don't get people help help until it's way too late. And that's what I'm sad about, okay? These things could be prevented. But I don't feel bad for Sean, okay? Because the Quavius was walking to a store to buy items for his disabled mother. And that's when Sean Sodom. That's when Sean shot him. Okay, listen to me. Read what it says, okay? This is what it says happened in People magazine. I'm gonna read this, and you tell me what movie this sounds like. The Cuevius and his friend walk in the family dollar to get items for the Quavius's mother. A black Tesla drives past, and the boy in the backseat, identified as Sean, shout something out the window. Sequavius and his friend began to run. When the car returns again, Sean Simpson allegedly starts shooting from the back. And that's how poor Zaquavius got shot and killed. What movie does that sound like? Boys in the Dance.
DJ Envy
I was ready to say Boys in the Hood, Ricky.
Angela Yee
Okay, but this ain't no movie, dawg. Okay? Zaquavius is dead for real. Because Sean Simpson made a choice that he is clearly now regretting and that he clearly can't change. And destiny is not a matter of chance. It's always a matter of choice. And I'm sad that Sean Simpson didn't make a better choice. But I'm not moved by Sean Simpson's tears. I'm not moved by his outburst in court. You know why? Because I know the Quavius Dawkins mother is crying way harder than Sean ever will. Okay, There is a quote, and the quote is, everyone makes mistakes in life, but that doesn't mean they have to pay for them for the rest of their life. Kids, I want to tell y'all, that quote is a lie. Okay? Yes, everyone makes mistakes in life. And depending what that mistake is, you will probably pay for it for the rest of your life, literally. And first degree murder in North Carolina is absolutely a life sentence. Please give Sean simpson the big SEO. 16 years old, man. 16, 16.
DJ Envy
That's crazy. But for me, it was him breaking.
Charlemagne the God
Down, like, realizing what it is.
DJ Envy
Yeah. Like, you know, too late. Nah, it is. You know, you out here trying to be a Y N. You about to go to jail and be a YB Dad. Nope. I'm sorry. I don't. I. I do not be feeling sorry for, like, yo, come on. Like that little boy not here no more. This is all because you. You couldn't just fight him. You couldn't just keep fighting him. Just. That's. Ain't that how it used to be back in the day, you. Before you go get a gun, you keep fighting until you win or whatever. Just.
Angela Yee
Well, I mean, people used to come back blasted, too. We used to say the same thing back in the day. I think now it's heightened because if it's recorded and goes viral, not a world sees it. As opposed to just your hood.
DJ Envy
Yeah, but it happens often. Like, almost every day.
Charlemagne the God
Happens a lot. It seems like guns are more accessible.
Angela Yee
Yeah.
DJ Envy
Like.
Charlemagne the God
Like what was at a higher rate.
Angela Yee
Right.
Charlemagne the God
Because growing up, you probably only. Well, I. I'm from New York. Country is a lot different. But you might have only known one person with a gun.
DJ Envy
Yeah.
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Or maybe two people.
DJ Envy
I'm not about to say you was even scared to. Yo, honestly, what world have y'all lived in?
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We didn't have guns.
Charlemagne the God
And then if in New York, you'd automatically get. I think it's two years or three years in prison if you were found with a gun, so.
Angela Yee
I'm 46 years old. Gun violence has been going on, but I didn't know.
Charlemagne the God
Now it seems like every kid has a gun. Like, like, not just small guns. I mean, ars. I mean shotguns. I mean Uzis.
DJ Envy
I mean, somebody extended clips just like you or something. Like, the country's a little different.
Angela Yee
We're acting like this is a new conversation.
DJ Envy
No, we're not acting like this is a new conversation.
Angela Yee
Not a new conversation.
DJ Envy
We just don't all have the same.
Angela Yee
No, gun violence has been going on since the beginning of time. And even. And by the way, I just mentioned one movie, boy in the hood. This is the same scenario for Menace to Society, too. Society dude get beat up and he come back blasting. This is life. Sadly.
DJ Envy
Yeah, I agree.
Angela Yee
And that's why I said the cycle doesn't ever break. This has been going on for a long, long time. I'm not gonna sit here and tell that lie. Like, you know, gun violence has not been prevalent for a long time.
Charlemagne the God
It has, but it seemed like it's gotten worse in the last couple of years.
DJ Envy
Absolutely. It's just when somebody else got a different opinion. Respect it and shut up.
Angela Yee
Or maybe we just care more because we're adults now. Cause think when we was young, we used to glorify it. When we was young, you kind of used to celebrate it a lot, right? That's just the fact of that.
Charlemagne the God
Let's open up the phone lines about this kid. 800-585-1051. Do you feel bad for this kid? He's 16 years old. He allegedly shot two teens. He's not gonna be charged as a child. He's gonna be charged as an adult. He broke down in court yesterday crying, so you can tell where his mind frame is. 800-585-1051. Let's discuss.
Angela Yee
Yeah, let's discuss.
Charlemagne the God
You feel sympathy? Do you feel sad for this young man?
Angela Yee
Something failed. I feel sad for the situation of the cycle that never seems to end.
DJ Envy
I'm sad for the little boy. Mother who. Not here.
Angela Yee
Definitely. That's just part of the cycle.
DJ Envy
Yeah, but that's. That's who I'm. I'm sad for.
Charlemagne the God
Let's talk about it. We'll take phone calls. We'll talk about it in death. When we come back, it's the Breakfast Club.
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Podcast Information:
In this powerful episode of The Breakfast Club, hosts DJ Envy, Angela Yee, and Charlamagne Tha God delve into the harrowing case of Sean Simpson, a 16-year-old from North Carolina charged as an adult for murder. The discussion offers a deep dive into the implications of charging minors as adults, the pervasive issue of gun violence among youth, and the societal failures that contribute to such tragedies.
The episode centers around Sean Simpson's court proceedings, where he was charged with first-degree murder following the killing of Zaquavius Dawkins. The incident occurred when Simpson allegedly shot Dawkins while he was attempting to purchase medical supplies for his disabled mother. This law-enforced move to charge a minor as an adult stems from a legislative change in December, allowing such actions in severe cases.
Notable Quote:
"Everyone makes mistakes in life, but that doesn't mean they have to pay for them for the rest of their life. Kids, I want to tell y'all, that quote is a lie."
— Angela Yee [07:00]
Angela Yee provides a comprehensive analysis of the case, intertwining it with her personal experiences. She emphasizes the cyclical nature of violence and the lack of effective intervention for troubled youth. Reflecting on her own past, Angela shares:
"When I was 16 or 17, I went to jail for assault and battery... I was literally just in the backseat of a car and one of my homies shot at another car. Just dumb and young and reckless."
— Angela Yee [03:24]
She underscores the tragedy of Sean Simpson's situation, highlighting the irreversible consequences of his actions and the profound grief experienced by the victim's family.
DJ Envy expresses deep sorrow for both the victim and the ripple effects of Sean Simpson's actions. He focuses on the loss experienced by Zaquavius Dawkins' family and the broader impact on the community:
"I'm sad for the little boy's mother who... not here."
— DJ Envy [10:47]
He also reflects on his own youth, drawing parallels to past instances of violence and the ongoing struggle to break the cycle.
Charlamagne Tha God challenges the notion of second chances for individuals like Sean Simpson. He provokes listeners to consider whether sympathy is appropriate in such severe cases:
"Do you feel sympathy? Do you feel sad for this young man?"
— Charlamagne Tha God [10:17]
Charlamagne pushes the conversation towards accountability, questioning whether societal structures adequately support troubled youth before situations escalate.
The episode critically examines the recent legislative changes that allow minors to be charged as adults in severe crimes. The hosts discuss the potential long-term impacts on individuals like Sean Simpson and the justice system's role in rehabilitation versus punishment.
Gun accessibility and its role in escalating conflicts are central to the discussion. The hosts debate the prevalence of firearms among teenagers and the societal factors that contribute to youth violence.
Notable Quote:
"Now it seems like every kid has a gun. Like, not just small guns. I mean, shotguns. I mean Uzis."
— Charlestha God [09:19]
A significant portion of the conversation addresses how society consistently fails to intervene effectively in at-risk youth populations. The hosts emphasize the need for comprehensive support systems to prevent such tragedies.
Notable Quote:
"These things could be prevented. But I don't feel bad for Sean, okay?"
— Angela Yee [07:00]
Angela Yee [03:24]:
"When my homie shot, there were three people in the car. The bullet hit the headrest of deceit. Nobody was sitting in the empty seat behind the passenger seat."
Angela Yee [07:00]:
"Everyone makes mistakes in life, but that doesn't mean they have to pay for them for the rest of their life. Kids, I want to tell y'all, that quote is a lie."
DJ Envy [08:05]:
"That's crazy. But for me, it was him breaking down, like, realizing what it is."
Charlamagne Tha God [10:17]:
"Do you feel sympathy? Do you feel sad for this young man?"
Angela Yee [09:50]:
"Gun violence has been going on, but I didn't know."
The hosts conclude the episode by urging listeners to reflect on the systemic issues highlighted by Sean Simpson's case. They advocate for greater societal intervention, better support systems for youth, and a re-evaluation of how the justice system handles juvenile offenders.
Final Notable Quote:
"When anger rises, think of the consequences. Would you rather go viral because you got your ass beat in school, or would you rather go viral because you in the courtroom getting charged with murder?"
— Angela Yee [03:24]
The episode serves as a poignant reminder of the complexities surrounding youth violence, the importance of timely intervention, and the profound impact of our societal choices on young lives.