DONKEY: Kristi Noem Defends Trump's Justification Of Renee Good’s Death

Summary

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The Breakfast Club — Donkey of the Day: Kristi Noem Defends Trump’s Justification of Renee Good’s Death

Date: January 12, 2026
Hosts: DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God
Episode Theme:
This episode centers on Charlamagne Tha God's “Donkey of the Day” segment, highlighting South Dakota Governor and Secretary of Homeland Security Kristi Noem’s controversial defense of Donald Trump and ICE Agent Jonathan Ross in the fatal shooting of Renee Good. The hosts dive into the political spin around the tragedy, emphasizing issues of hypocrisy, cognitive bias, law enforcement double standards, and the ongoing struggle to uphold right and wrong in America.

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Main Theme & Purpose

The main focus is a critical analysis of officials justifying excessive use of force by ICE against Renee Good, a Black mother killed in a controversial raid, and the broader hypocrisy in applying justice when comparing protesters and Trump supporters. The episode uses Kristi Noem’s recent TV appearance as a case study for how cognitive bias and political loyalty shape public discourse on police violence and accountability.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Renee Good Shooting and Immediate Political Response (02:19–04:36)

• Background: Renee Good, a 37-year-old mother, was shot and killed by ICE agent Jonathan Ross under highly disputed circumstances.
• Political Reaction: Before investigations concluded, right-wing politicians and media swiftly framed Good as a threat, using her death to demonize protests and justify lethal force.
• Charlamagne’s Take: He criticizes this approach, noting officials are “trying to convince the American people we didn’t see what we all saw,” using denial and misinformation tactics.
• Memorable Quote:
  • “Don’t pee on my head and tell me that it’s raining… That is what this administration is currently doing to us, okay? Peeing on our heads and telling us it’s raining.” — Charlamagne Tha God [04:08]

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2. Kristi Noem’s Appearance on CNN’s State of the Union (04:37–07:06)

• Evasive Answers: On live TV, Kristi Noem sidesteps direct questions about prejudging the officer’s actions, instead doubling down on protester demonization and vague references to law enforcement ‘defense.’
• Jake Tapper’s Pushback: Tapper questions whether Noem is setting a double standard for law enforcement use of force depending on the suspects’ political affiliations.
• Noem’s Defense: She maintains that ICE agents were justified, claims protesters match the definition of “domestic terrorism,” and insists “everything stated…has been factual.”
• Memorable Exchange:
  • Jake Tapper: “What evidence are you looking at that so many other people…say it looked to me her tires were turned to the right…they see a woman trying to flee?” [05:25]
  • Kristi Noem: “Everything that we’ve stated as the Department of Homeland Security and this administration has been factual…” [05:42]
  • Charlamagne Tha God: “Talk factual about the protesters, but not factual about law enforcement. What evidence are you looking at, Kristi?” [06:03]

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3. Double Standard in Law Enforcement Response (07:06–08:22)

• Comparison to January 6th: Tapper asks Noem about the lack of lethal response to pro-Trump insurrectionists attacking officers during the Capitol riot, highlighting apparent inconsistencies.
• Noem’s Parry: She responds that every case is different and insists Trump enforced all laws equally, despite video and presidential pardons contradicting that assertion.
• Jake Tapper’s Rebuttal: Tapper flatly states the hypocrisy, noting Trump pardoned the very people Noem implies were held accountable.
• Memorable Quote:
  • “There’s a different standard for law enforcement officials being attacked if they’re being attacked by Trump supporters. We just saw them.” — Jake Tapper [08:00]

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4. Charlamagne’s Core Message: Right vs. Wrong, Cognitive Bias (08:22–11:00)

• Beyond Partisan Lines: Charlamagne emphasizes that this isn’t about party politics but fundamental morality and the loss of consensus on right vs. wrong in America.
• Historical Parallels: References past police brutality cases (Rodney King, George Floyd, Eric Garner) as public moments of obvious injustice that were still politicized.
• Call for Empathy: Argues that “shared empathy helps us to bridge divides,” and warns that society is “doomed” if we can’t unite in the face of clear injustice.
• Cognitive Bias: Blames political tribalism and confirmation bias for the inability to see or admit wrongdoing by law enforcement.
• Memorable Quotes:
  • “If we as a people don’t know what right and wrong is anymore, it’s over.” — Charlamagne Tha God [08:27]
  • “There should be no confirmation bias in this situation because…you can clearly see what happened to Renee Good was wrong…” — Charlamagne Tha God [09:11]

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5. Comic Relief & Aftermath (11:00–11:41)

• “Hee Haw” Award: Charlamagne punctuates the segment with his signature “biggest Hee Haw” for Kristi Noem, signaling public ridicule for her evasions.
• Asparagus Metaphor Extended: Banter among the hosts about the distinct smell of asparagus in urine, extending the 'don’t pee on my head' metaphor through a playful lens.
• Memorable Moment:
  • “But the asparagus is crazy because… I can’t even bite a piece of asparagus. Piss be smelling for hours.” — Angela Yee [11:19]

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Notable Quotes & Timelines

• Charlamagne on Political Spin:
  “Don’t pee on my head and tell me that it’s raining…” [04:08]
• Jake Tapper challenges Noem on evidence:
  “What evidence are you looking at…they see a woman trying to flee?” [05:25]
• Noem on ‘factual’ defense of ICE:
  “Everything…has been factual. And I wish we would talk factually about what we see every day from these protesters...” [05:42]
• Charlamagne on societal decline:
  “If we as a people don’t know what right and wrong is anymore, it's over…There should be no confirmation bias in this situation…” [08:27, 09:11]
• Jake Tapper on pardons and hypocrisy:
  “President Trump pardoned every single one of those people…There’s a different standard…” [07:38, 08:00]
• Angela Yee extends the pee-asparagus metaphor:
  “Piss be smelling for hours.” [11:19]

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Additional Context & Tone

• Tone:
  The conversation is blunt, irreverent, and humorous even as it tackles deadly serious issues. The hosts don’t mince words and keep their analysis rooted in real-world experience and empathy, sprinkled with signature “Breakfast Club” jokes and banter.
• Public Accountability:
  The segment calls out both political hypocrisy and public complacency, stressing the necessity for a moral baseline and refusal to let political bias cloud obvious injustices.

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Key Timestamps

• [02:19] Start of Donkey of the Day segment on Renee Good
• [04:37] Excerpts of Kristi Noem on CNN and her defense of officer
• [07:06] Discussion of Trump’s double standard: January 6th vs. protesters
• [08:22] Charlamagne’s closing commentary on cognitive bias and empathy
• [11:00] “Hee Haw” humor wraps up the segment

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This summary captures the episode’s major themes, sharp political insight, memorable exchanges, and the hosts’ signature blend of outrage and comedy—making it a useful recap for anyone who missed the show.

Transcript

[Angela Yee]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Mike De la Rocha]

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[Jorge Ramos]

Hola, I'm Jorge Ramos. This week on the Moment, we take a look at Venezuela's uncertain future in a conversation with two people who have directly advised US Presidents, Juan Gonzalez during the Obama and Biden administrations.

[Ed Helms]

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[Jorge Ramos]

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I'm Maria Hinojosa, host of Latino usa. Venezuelans around the world are celebrating the takedown of former President Maduro. But inside the country, there is fear and silen. And in the United States, people are concerned about Donald Trump's rogue tactics. Listen to Latino usa, the fall of Maduro and the rise of an unconstrained Trump. That's on your iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your Podcasts.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This is America. There is no question that there are problems in this country between police and community.

[DJ Envy]

Yes, you are a donkey.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

To the latest on that police killing.

[Ed Helms]

Of a black man.

[Kristi Noem]

Now to new developments in the deadly spa shooting rampage.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yesterday was a really bad day for him and this is what he did.

[Angela Yee]

And so we are in a state of emergency, okay?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

White supremacist violence is and always has been the number one threat to our society. But I'm also very proud that my wife is white. To the Breakfast Club, bitches.

[Maria Hinojosa]

All right, Charlene, please tell me, why.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Was I your donkey of the day? Well, donkey of the day for Monday, January 12th goes to the United States State Secretary of Homeland Security, Christy Noem. Now, I think by now we all are familiar with the tragic murder of Renee Nicole good, okay? A 37 year old mother of three who was shot and killed by an ICE agent named Jonathan Ross. Ross can be heard on his cell phone video calling Renee a effing bitch, okay? After shooting into her truck as she turns away from his direction. Now, what we have seen since, since this incident has happened, you know, before there was even a formal investigation started, we saw Republican lawmakers, we saw the Trump, we saw the vice president, J.D. vance, we saw right wing media like Fox News, we saw, you know, Kristi Noem all rush to demonize Renee Goode and justify being her. Justify her being shot and killed by Jonathan Ross, okay? Literally, they are trying to convince the American people that we didn't see what we all saw, okay? One of my favorite sayings is don't pee on my head and tell me that it's raining, okay? It's one of those sayings that makes so much sense but actually doesn't make any sense because don't pee on my head should be a complete sentence, alright? The fact that I would even have to say that anywhere at any time is troubling. Don't pee on my head. But if you do, don't tell me it's rain because I smell the asparagus. That is what this administration is currently doing to us, okay? Peeing on our heads and telling us it's raining. But yesterday Kristi Noem was on State of the Union and Jake Tapper asked her point blank. I'm wondering if you're not doing a disservice to the officer Jonathan Ross by reaching a conclusion before the investigation takes place. And Kristi Gnome started dancing like she was doing a tik tok video. Let's listen.

[Jake Tapper]

Those are law enforcement officers being physically attacked by this Standard would any of those officers justified in shooting and killing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Stop, stop, stop, stop. The other one that was a.

[Jake Tapper]

Is that Agent Ross's voice calling Renee Good a bitch?

[Kristi Noem]

I can't determine which one it is, but it could be. Sir, if you look at what the definition of domestic terrorism is, it completely fits this situation on the ground. This individual, as you saw in the video that we released just 48 hours after this incident, showed that this officer was hit by her vehicle. She weaponized it, and he defended his life and those colleagues around him and the public.

[Jake Tapper]

What evidence are you looking at that so many other people around the country look at? And they say, it looked to me, her tires were turned to the right, she was moving her car, and they see a woman trying to flee.

[Kristi Noem]

Jake, I'm watching the videos.

[Jake Tapper]

Other people watch videos.

[Kristi Noem]

Everything that we've stated as the Department of Homeland Security and this administration has been factual. And I wish we would talk factually about what we see every day from these protesters, what they do, what they say, how they chant over and over, kill ice, attack law enforcement, how they're trained to perpetuate violence against them and to stop the work that they do every day.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Talk factual about the protesters, but not factual about law enforcement. What evidence are you looking at, Christy? That was a valid question from Jake Tappa. I would have said, why are you peeing on my head and telling me it's rain? Did she not realize her own hypocrisy? Okay, the media didn't judge jump to conclusions about Renee Goode. We the people didn't jump to conclusions about Renee Good. We responded to the video we saw. And then immediately, Kristi Noem, people like yourself immediately politicized it and used it as an opportunity to demonize Renee Good and liberal protesters everywhere. But Jake Tapper decided to point out the clear double standard between how law enforcement responds to Trump supporters versus non Trump supporters by showing Christy Gnome video from the January 6th insurrection. Remember when those domestic terrorists that I not so affectionately call vanilla ISIS and Al Cracker, remember when they stormed the Capitol? Yeah. Jake Tapper showed Christy Gnome footage of that and asked her about the double standard from law enforcement. Let's go back to State of the Union to listen, please.

[Jake Tapper]

Those are law enforcement officers being physically attacked by this standard. Would any of those officers being justified in shooting and killing the people causing them physical harm?

[Kristi Noem]

Every single situation is going to rely on the situation those officers are on, that they know that when people are putting hands on them, when they are using weapons against them, when they are physically harming them, that they have the authority to arrest those individuals.

[Jake Tapper]

The president pardoned every single one of.

[Kristi Noem]

Those people and make sure that they are getting justice for their actions going forward.

[Jake Tapper]

President Trump pardoned every single one of those people.

[Kristi Noem]

And every single one of these investigations comes in the full context of the situation on the ground. And that's one thing that President Trump has been so focused on, is making sure that when we're out there, we don't pick and choose which situations are in which laws are enforced and which ones aren't. Every single one of them is being enforced under the Trump administration.

[Jake Tapper]

I just showed you video of people attacking law enforcement officers. Undisputed proof, undisputed evidence. And I just said President Trump pardoned all of them. And you said that President Trump is enforcing all the laws equally. It's just not true. There's a different standard for law enforcement officials being attacked if they're being attacked by Trump supporters. We just saw them.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, it is. America, this isn't about politics to me, because both sides absolutely politicize issues like this. All I care about in a situation like this is right and wrong. And if we as a people don't know what right and wrong is anymore, it's over. Okay? Not that America has ever been held to a high moral standard, but if there is a video that we all can see, a la Rodney King, George Floyd, Eric Garner, okay? Now, Renee Goode, if we all can see a video and see that injustice happened, why is it so hard to just admit, hey, that was wrong? Listen, ICE agents have a job to do. I get it. ICE has been around for 22 years, OK? United States immigration and Customs Enforcement, okay? Bush, Obama, Biden, Trump, ICE was around under all of them. There have always been massive ICE raids in this country. I don't know how they were doing their ICE raids before because. Because we didn't have social media back then recording at every move, okay? And I don't have to agree with how they do their job to know they have a job to do. I want them to do their job lawfully, and I don't want us impeding on them doing their job unlawfully, okay? I don't know if what Renee Good was doing was unlawful. It didn't look unlawful to me. But I don't know the law, but I do know what I saw didn't warrant her being shot and killed the way she was. And if we can't agree on simple right and wrong scenarios, we are doomed as a society. Okay? Right now we can't determine what's wrong in this situation because of good old fashioned cognitive bias. Okay? This is the time when folks are letting their politics pick sides and they shouldn't. At some point, we have to have some shared empathy, okay? Shared empathy helps us to bridge divides, all right? Politics just leads to more cognitive bias. All right? People tend to favor information confirming existing beliefs. That's confirmation bias. But there should be no confirmation bias in this situation because you got ice. Okay? You can clearly see what happened to Renee Good was wrong, and we should all be acknowledging it because we don't want it to happen again. All right? We want ICE agents to do their job lawfully, not unlawfully. And we want citizens to lawfully protest against ICE if they see injustice. Okay? And not unlawfully interfere in a situation and end up dead. But we can't get to that point if we collectively. Okay, if collectively we can't say what happened to Renee Good was wrong. And it's just another example of law enforcement being extra aggressive when they didn't have to be and using deadly force where deadly force wasn't needed. But instead we the people are getting peed on and being told it's raining. Please give Kristy Noam the biggest Hee Haw.

[Kristi Noem]

That's ridiculous.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, it is. It sounds dumb.

[DJ Envy]

All right, well, thank you for that.

[Angela Yee]

Donkey today, but the asparagus is crazy because.

[DJ Envy]

What?

[Kristi Noem]

Listen.

[Angela Yee]

Yes, and. And women be trying to tell me. It's some girls that be trying to say, oh, no, I don't never smell my pee when I eat asparagus, Girl, yes, you do.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, it affects everybody differently. So everybody. Yeah, everybody's Pete doesn't smell when they eat asparagus. I forgot why, but there's a scientific reason.

[Angela Yee]

We need to figure it out.

[DJ Envy]

And what does it mean over there?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right?

[Angela Yee]

Yeah, but like, what does it mean for the women who would do stink 4 because I know I can't even bite a piece of asparagus. Pissed me smelling for hours.

[DJ Envy]

Jesus Christ. All right, well, thank you for that donkey of the day.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[DJ Envy]

Now when we come back, let's open up the phone lines. 800-585-1051. So there's this TikTok couple, the social media couple, Desmond Scott and his wife.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Christy that just announced what makes one a TikTok couple.

[Angela Yee]

I guess what they started on TikTok.

[DJ Envy]

But no, there are a couple that. They're big on TikTok and Big on YouTube. People know them from their social media and they're huge. They do all these videos. They get millions and millions of. Of views. I think she has 17 million on tick tock, 9 million on Instagram. But they recently got divorced right after being married since 2014. They met at 14, they have two kids. But the question is 800-585-1051. We were just talking about it behind the scenes and Jess said, I just.

[Angela Yee]

Oh, oh, my gosh. Because it's gonna be so many people mad at me. But they met at 14 and they have only been in one relationship their whole life. Right. They got married, they got two kids, and, you know, they just recently divorced because allegedly he cheated.

[DJ Envy]

She filed for divorce.

[Angela Yee]

Yep, she filed. I'm sorry.

[Maria Hinojosa]

Yep.

[Angela Yee]

She filed for divorce because found out there was infidelity. But I'm like, yo, you gotta think about it. Not justifying him cheating, but it's just like, yo, we've been together since 14. You know what I mean? You don't really get to live out your bachelor days. You know what I'm saying? And you don't really get to, you know, she didn't get to live out her bachelorette life. Now, she probably never wanted one, never desired to have one, because they always say women know what they want, but for men. But I just feel like.

[DJ Envy]

Ah, you feel like people should sow their royal oats before they get married?

[Angela Yee]

Yes.

[DJ Envy]

I mean, let's discuss it. Let's open up the floor.

[Angela Yee]

You should have a chance to do that.

[DJ Envy]

Do you agree with Jess? 800-585-1051? Do you feel like being with somebody since 14 is too young to be with them for that long? That is the question.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[DJ Envy]

We'll take your calls when we come back. We'll give you our opinions as well. But call us up right now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, dog.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Mike De la Rocha]

A new year doesn't ask us to become someone new. It invites us back home to ourselves. I'm Mike Della Rocha, host of Sacred Lessons, a space for men to pause, reflect and heal. This year, we're talking honestly about mental health, relationships, and the patterns we're ready to release. If you're looking for clarity, connection, and healthier ways to show up in your life, Sacred Lessons is here for you. Listen to Sacred Lessons with Mike Delaroach on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Jorge Ramos]

Hola, I'm Jorge Ramos. This week on the Moment, we take a look at Venezuela's uncertain future in a conversation with two people who have directly advised US Presidents Juan Gonzalez during the Obama and Biden administrations.

[Ed Helms]

We're really good at invading countries. We're very bad at nation building in.

[Jorge Ramos]

Carlos de Rosillo during Trump's two terms. I can guarantee you that nobody in the Trump administration likes Delcy Rodriguez. Listen to the Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paolo ramos on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Ed Helms]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Angela Yee]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Ed Helms]

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[Maria Hinojosa]

I'm Maria Hinojosa, host of Latino usa. Venezuelans around the world are celebrating the takedown of former President Maduro. But inside the country, there is fear and silence. And in the United States, people are concerned about Donald Trump's rogue tactics. Listen to Latino usa, the fall of Maduro and the rise of an unconstrained Trump. That's on your iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Angela Yee]

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