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TS Madison
Hey, y' all, it's your girl, TS Madison coming to you loud live and in color from the Outlaws podcast. We're talking to Chapel Rohn and Sasha Colby. We talk about the lovers, the haters, and the creator. In the Midwest. They told you, well, just be humble. Mine was, I think, wrapped up in like Christian guilt.
Chapel Rohn
Oh.
Bomhan
So, yeah, we definitely had like some.
TS Madison
Jehovah's Witness guilt there. Yeah.
Sasha Colby
Yeah.
TS Madison
Wait, were you Jehovah's Witness? Yeah, my family's still this okay. Or no.
Chapel Rohn
Hi.
TS Madison
Listen to outlaws with TS Madison on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcast, honey.
Bomhan
Yo, K Pop fans, are you ready? It's your boy, Bomhan, and I'm bringing you the K Factor, the podcast that takes you straight into the heart of K Pop. We're talking music, idols, exclusive interviews, and even the real behind the scenes K Pop stories. Plus, you, the fans, you're part of the show. And you can get a chance to jump in, share your opinions, and be part of the conversation like never before. And trust me, you never know where we might pop up next. So listen to the K factor starting on April 16th on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. This isn't just a podcast. It's a K Pop experience. Are you in? Let's go. Let's go.
Mental Health Advocate
The Made for this Mountain podcast exists to empower listeners to rise above their inner struggles and face the mountain in front of them. So during Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast, focus on your emotional well being, and then climb that mountain.
Sasha Colby
You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify. The thing that you refuse to say, hey, this is my mountain. This is the struggle.
Mental Health Advocate
Listen to Made for this mountain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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TS Madison
Day is something to behold.
Chapel Rohn
We'll get a read.
Mental Health Advocate
They gave me donkey of the Day.
Chapel Rohn
And I deserve it. People need to know well, you need to tell them. I am. You have the voice. Tell them. Tell them it's time for Donkey of the Day.
Bomhan
It's a read, but you're so good.
TS Madison
At it, you're trying to be a fake ass.
Chapel Rohn
Charlemagne.
TS Madison
There's only one Charlemagne involved.
Chapel Rohn
Damn Charlemagne. Who you give a dunky of the day to now? Yes, Donkey today for Wednesday, May 21 goes to 33 year old Zachary Jordan, alum. Now, Jack Zachary is a J Sixer. Okay, you know who the J6s are, right? They have other names for those domestic terrorists. Vanilla ISIS, Al Cracker, just to name a couple. But the J6s are the individuals who participated in the insurrection of the United States Capitol on January 6, 2021. Okay? Zachary was one of those. And he was also issued a pardon for his role in the January six riot. Okay, remember, President Trump issued full commutations and pardons to those indicted and are sentenced in relation to the attack on the U.S. capitol. Okay? But just like several other individuals who Donald Trump pardoned for their actions on January 6, Zachary has found himself back in jail. Let's go to CBS 9W USA for the report, please.
News Reporter
6Th Capitol rioter from Northern Virginia who was released from prison after receiving a pardon from President Trump. Well, he's now back behind bars. Police arrested 3323 year old Zachary Alam last Friday night. They say he allegedly broke into a home in Henrico county just outside of Richmond and stole personal belongings. Allen was previously sentenced to eight years for assaulting officers and smashing that same window Ashley Babbitt tried to climb through back on January 6th. We spoke with him back in December from behind bars, and he told us he was, quote, demanding a pardon from President Trump. When asked what he'd do if he got out, Alam said, quote, that's just for me to know and you to find out. Alum is now being held at the Henrico County Regional Jail West.
Chapel Rohn
Keep them. Okay? Trump's January 6th pardons are like expired coupons, useless and bound to cause trouble at checkout. Okay. You know, for most people, if someone is gracious enough to give you a second chance, then you won't need a third. Zachary got a pardon and then went and broke into a house after you broke into the Capitol and assaulted police officers. That's not a redemption arc. That's more like a sequel nobody asked for. Okay? The reality is people like Zachary are empowered and emboldened because they got away with something like an attempted coup of this country. And because they have President Trump in office, they feel like the law doesn't apply to them. Okay? That's why consequences to actions are very important, because they teach you that you can't just do things in this country. Okay? This man Zachary clearly didn't get enough of prison because if he did, you know, if he did or would have gotten that real prison experience, okay, well, he had to do that time. I don't think he would just be breaking into houses. Okay? But this is also the same guy who assaulted a police officer at the Capitol, so he really doesn't give a about the law. Okay? I remember when Trump's team said, we're only pardoning the best people. Turns out Bess was short for best at reoffending. Okay? Trump was considering giving compensation to the J6s, and Zachary was one of those ones who demanded a full pardon with compensation. I wouldn't be surprised if there was people who use this as an example as to why the J6s should receive compensation, because they will say, you know, people like Zachary can't find a job. Being incarcerated was a stain on his record, so he had to resort to crime. Now you know how so many black people in the hood feel every day. Okay, welcome to our world. Okay? I can see right wing outlets right now saying Zachary just breaking into things like the Capitol and homes because it's a good networking strategy, Okay? A way for him to meet people. What a slap in the face to the MAGA movement. Okay. What a slap in the face to President Donald J. Trump. I'm on record as saying that everyone around Trump should be trying to prove people wrong. Okay? Don't be the thing folks said you were going to be while you were campaigning. Folks said Trump's economic policies, the tariffs could cost people jobs and ruin the economy. So far, so good on that one. We said Trump was going to implement Project2025 and authoritarian rule and ignore the Constitution. Check on that one. Folks said the J6s deserve to be in jail. A lot of them already had criminal records. And if you stormed the Capitol and assaulted law enforcement, then you don't give a damn about this country or the rule of law. And Zachary, here you go proving them folks right, too. And it's not just Zachary. At least eight individuals who are pardoned by President Trump have faced new criminal charges. Are legal issues. Okay. Pardoned by President Trump for J6. Okay. Have faced new criminal charges or legal issues. You don't care about your president. If you did, you wouldn't be making him look bad. Okay. This is also a very teachable moment because in life, eventually you will always end up where you need to be, with who you're meant to be with and doing what you should be doing. Okay, Zachary and a lot of J Sixes need to be in prison with other prisoners doing time. Okay, Henry. Henry Rollins once said, you'll end up right where you're supposed to be. Okay? Don't be surprised when you get there, Zachary. I hope you not surprised. Okay, Henry's quote continues. Everything you did was a step in that direction. There is no such thing as bad luck, Zachary. You earned your arrest on January 6th and you earned your arrest. Now please let Remy Ma give Zachary alum the biggest Hee haw. Hee haw.
Mental Health Advocate
Hee haw.
Chapel Rohn
You stupid motherf. Are you dumb? All right, well, thank you for that donkey today. Yes, indeed. Now when we come back, Mikey Sherrell will be joining us. She's running Congresswoman, Governor of New New Jersey. So we actually leading in the in the polls. Yeah, she's leading in the polls. So we're going to talk to Mikey when we come back. So don't go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club Donkey today is sponsored by renowned personal injury attorney Michael the Bull Laminsoft. Don't be a donkey when you need a fighter on your side. If you're ever injured, go to Michael the Bull dot com. That's Michael the bul. And when you mess with the bull, you get the horns.
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TS Madison
Hey y' all, it's your girl, TS Madison coming to you loud live at in color from the Outlaws podcast. We're talking to Chapel Rohn and Sasha Colby. We talk about the lovers, the haters and the creator in the Midwest. They told you. Well, just be humble. Mine was I think wrapped up in like Christian guilds.
Bomhan
Oh yeah, we definitely had like some.
TS Madison
Jehovah's Witness guild there.
Sasha Colby
Yeah, yeah.
TS Madison
Wait, were you Jehovah's Witness? Yeah, my family still this hey or no.
Chapel Rohn
Hi.
TS Madison
Listen to outlaws with TS Madison on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast, honey.
Bomhan
Yo K. Pop fans are you ready? It's your boy, Bomhan. And I'm bringing you the K Factor, the podcast that takes you straight into the heart of K Pop. We're talking music, idols, exclusive interviews, and even the real behind the scenes K Pop stories. Plus you, the fans, you're part of the show. And you can get a chance to jump in, share your opinions, and be part of the conversation like never before. And trust me, you never know where we might pop up next. So listen to the K factor starting on April 16th on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. This isn't just a podcast. It's a K Pop experience. Are you in? Let's go. Go.
Mental Health Advocate
The Made for this Mountain podcast exists to empower listeners to rise above their inner struggles and face the mountain in front of them. So during Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast, focus on your emotional well being, and then climb that mountain.
Sasha Colby
You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify, the thing that you refuse to say. Hey, this is my mountain. This is the struggle.
Mental Health Advocate
Listen to Made for this mountain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Sasha Colby
You're listening to an iHeart podcast.
The Breakfast Club - Episode: DONKEY: Man Arrested For Burglary After Being Pardoned For Jan. 6 Riot
Release Date: May 21, 2025
In this episode of The Breakfast Club, the hosts delve into a compelling and controversial story that has stirred discussions nationwide. The segment, titled "Donkey of the Day," focuses on Zachary Jordan, a 33-year-old man whose actions post-pardon have raised serious questions about the effectiveness of presidential pardons, especially those related to the January 6th Capitol riot.
At [02:37], Chapel Rohn introduces Zachary Jordan, highlighting his past involvement in the January 6th insurrection. Jordan was among those who received a pardon from former President Donald Trump for his role in the Capitol riot. However, his recent arrest has cast a shadow on the notion of redemption through presidential clemency.
Chapel Rohn:
"Zachary was one of those [pardoned individuals]. He was also issued a pardon for his role in the January six riot."
[02:37]
A news segment from CBS 9W USA is played at [03:28], providing a factual account of Jordan's latest legal troubles. Initially released after his pardon, Zachary Jordan was arrested again for allegedly breaking into a home in Henrico County, Richmond, and stealing personal belongings. This incident marks a concerning pattern of re-offending among some of the pardoned individuals.
News Reporter:
"He allegedly broke into a home in Henrico county just outside of Richmond and stole personal belongings."
[03:28]
Chapel Rohn takes a critical stance on the matter, questioning the efficacy and intent behind President Trump's pardons related to the January 6th participants. Her analysis spans from [04:08] to [07:46], where she intertwines sharp commentary with broader implications for justice and societal norms.
Chapel Rohn:
"Trump's January 6th pardons are like expired coupons, useless and bound to cause trouble at checkout."
[04:08]
She argues that pardons were perhaps premature or improperly granted, leading individuals like Jordan to believe that their actions are beyond reproach. Rohn emphasizes the importance of consequences in maintaining the rule of law.
Chapel Rohn:
"If someone is gracious enough to give you a second chance, then you won't need a third. Zachary got a pardon and then went and broke into a house after you broke into the Capitol and assaulted police officers. That's not a redemption arc. That's more like a sequel nobody asked for."
[04:37]
Rohn further criticizes the notion that such pardons could be perceived as a tacit approval of extremist actions, thereby endangering societal trust in legal and governmental systems.
Chapel Rohn:
"A lot of them already had criminal records. And if you stormed the Capitol and assaulted law enforcement, then you don't give a damn about this country or the rule of law."
[06:15]
The discussion transitions into a broader commentary on societal issues, particularly focusing on the disenfranchisement and systemic challenges faced by marginalized communities.
Chapel Rohn:
"This is also a very teachable moment because in life, eventually you will always end up where you need to be, with who you're meant to be with and doing what you should be doing."
[06:45]
She reflects on the cyclical nature of crime and punishment, suggesting that without genuine rehabilitation, individuals like Jordan are doomed to repeat their mistakes.
As the segment wraps up, Chapel Rohn shares a poignant quote to encapsulate the lesson from Jordan's story.
Chapel Rohn:
"Henry Rollins once said, you'll end up right where you're supposed to be. Don't be surprised when you get there, Zachary. I hope you not surprised."
[07:30]
The hosts collectively emphasize the importance of accountability and the belief that actions have long-lasting consequences, reinforcing the idea that redemption must be earned through genuine change.
Before concluding, Chapel Rohn teases the next segment where Mikey Sherrell, running for Congresswoman and Governor of New New Jersey, will be joining the discussion, highlighting her leading position in the polls. This sets the stage for further engaging and insightful conversations in future episodes.
Chapel Rohn:
"Now when we come back, Mikey Sherrell will be joining us. She's running Congresswoman, Governor of New New Jersey. So we actually leading in the in the polls."
[07:46]
Ineffectiveness of Pardons: The episode critically examines how pardons, particularly those related to the January 6th insurrection, may fail to deter future criminal behavior, as evidenced by Zachary Jordan's re-arrest.
Rule of Law: Emphasizes the importance of maintaining legal consequences to uphold societal order and discourage extremist actions.
Redemption and Rehabilitation: Highlights the necessity for genuine rehabilitation over mere pardons to ensure individuals do not repeat their offenses.
Societal Reflections: Encourages listeners to consider broader societal issues that contribute to criminal behavior and the cycles of re-offending.
Chapel Rohn:
"Trump's January 6th pardons are like expired coupons, useless and bound to cause trouble at checkout."
[04:08]
Chapel Rohn:
"That's not a redemption arc. That's more like a sequel nobody asked for."
[04:37]
Chapel Rohn:
"Henry Rollins once said, you'll end up right where you're supposed to be. Don't be surprised when you get there, Zachary. I hope you not surprised."
[07:30]
This episode of The Breakfast Club presents a critical analysis of a recent incident involving a pardoned individual from the January 6th Capitol riot. Through incisive commentary and factual reporting, the hosts shed light on the complexities surrounding presidential pardons, the importance of accountability, and the broader implications for societal justice systems. Listeners are encouraged to reflect on the balance between mercy and justice, and the roles each plays in maintaining the integrity of the nation.