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Lauren LaRosa
What's up? It's Lauren LaRosa. And this is the latest with Lauren LaRosa. This is your daily dig on all things popcorn, culture, entertainment, news, and all of the conversations that shake the room, baby. So today I am bringing you guys a conversation that I'm sure will shake the room, and we'll have you guys talking, and y' all know we love to hear back from you. Take it to the streets in the tweets.
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Lauren LaRosa
I'm Lauren LaRosa everywhere. That's L O R E N L O R o S a. I mean, it's in the title of the show, but y' all still get it wrong. But, yes, take it to the streets. And the tweets get in the comments, get everywhere. Let me know how you guys are feeling once you listen to this interview. I had the pleasure of being hosted in Memphis over the weekend, and it was amazing. So I went there for the Podbox Podcast festival. I was there for about a day. I literally was there overnight, did this festival at the Cosset Library, shout out to, you know, Ina Esko and all of the Cossett Library team and everybody, everybody that I met there. I had such a great time. Amen. Say, man, I had a great time in Memphis, y'.
Mayor Paul Young
All.
Lauren LaRosa
They adopted me. I'm going back. But more importantly, while I was there, the, you know, the city and everyone in the city, they had been talking to people a lot while there. And one of the things I kept hearing was that people are currently preparing or were currently preparing over the weekend. This is actually taking into effect today, September 29, for the National Guard to come into the city. The National Guard, per the Governor of Memphis, Governor Bill Lee, and President Donald Trump, the National Guard will be coming into the city because they are trying to fight, Help. Fight. Help local agencies fight the violent crime that is happening in Memphis. And from everyone I talk to while there, these are everyday citizens just trying to figure it out. I think there is a need for resources. Definitely, from what I understand, there's a need for resources because there are violent crimes happening. And although they've been able to have success in some places, there's not as much success in others when it comes to completely stopping the violent crime. And now the governor has said, hey, we need the National Guard to come, and that is what's happening. And that is what's happening. But these everyday people, as much as they want the resources and the help and they want their neighborhoods to be safe, they. They're scared right now, y'.
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Lauren LaRosa
Like, they're over there preparing for the National Guard to come in. And they don't know what that means. They don't know if, you know, everyday people and these everyday, you know, enforcement agencies will clash with National Guard, and they already feel like, you know, in certain places, they're not safe because of the violent crime that we're discussing. And now these law enforcement or these additional resources and agencies like the National Guard are being brought in. And, you know, this is a. Memphis is black. Memphis is black as I don't know what. So, you know, just. Just that whole conversation about what that relationship looks like between the community that is already there and the National Guard coming in and what force looks or doesn't look like and how that's used and just so many things. People were having a lot of conversations with me about while I was there, to the point where I said to, you know, the Pod Box Podcast festival team while we were at dinner, is there a way I can talk to the mayor and just, you know, have a conversation with him about what's going on and what the plan, you know, just use it. When I get back to work at the latest with Lauren laros at the podcast and on the Breakfast Club, and they said, sure. So he came out to the podcast festival. We had some time backstage where we were able to talk and really meet. And I let him know that I'll be sharing this interview. And we talked about everything, like, why is this happening? Why is the governor bringing the National Guard here? Do you guys feel like you need the help? And he's open to the help, but what happens after? If you guys don't have the resources now, once they leave, will you have it then? And people are scared. How do you talk to the people in your community? There are people who are preparing to, you know, get. Everybody's like, hey, get your affairs in order. I got out of my. The car that picked us up from the airport. When I arrived at the hotel, I got out, the driver said, y' all be safe now. And I was like, why did he say that does. And when I went to dinner, they were like, because everyone, you know, people were in town for. There was a Southern heritage classic happening. But they were explaining to me there are a lot of people right now that are they buckling down. They making sure, you know, license and registration is up to date and insurances and just everything that they warrants, everything that they can, because they don't want to have to have contact with the National Guard. So let's take a listen to my interview with the mayor of Memphis, Mayor Paul Young. Black Mayor. Yeah, we talk about some things. Let's get on into it.
Mayor Paul Young
Well, you know, there's a lot going on in Memphis right now with all of the national conversations.
Lauren LaRosa
They were telling me about it last night.
Mayor Paul Young
You didn't even know about it?
Lauren LaRosa
No, I didn't. I knew about dc, the conversation about Chicago, but I, I didn't know that they were starting here.
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Lauren LaRosa
Yeah, yeah, we jumped line. I was asking them, I'm like, how do you prepare for that? Like, what do you.
Mayor Paul Young
Well, we are preparing and you know, I've been trying to articulate to people that we're different than Chicago and la, because our governor has said yes and the President said yes. So as mayor, I don't have a say in whether they come or not. So what we're doing now is working to align how they come, where they're going to show up, what their assignments are going to be. So we're putting together a whole strategy of how we engage and we've been having positive dialogues with the National Guard, major generals and all of those folks. You know, my goal is to try to keep them focused on violent crime and not, you know, petty crimes and things of that nature. But really the thing that is a challenge for us, admittedly is that we do have folks that are committing violent crimes and not being brought to justice.
Lauren LaRosa
Do you feel like it's going to be helpful though? And like, if so, how long? Because that's not something you don't just come here for like a month or two.
Mayor Paul Young
Yeah.
Lauren LaRosa
And then, you know, like, how long do you think they need to be? I think that's, it's a long term conversation.
Mayor Paul Young
I think, I think that the other resources, a lot of times people get fixated on the National Guard piece and I think that's just a visible presence. I think the thing that's going to be helpful is the FBI, DEA and all the investigative resources that they're going to be able to bring to support our police department. Because when you have a certain amount of homicides or a certain amount of shootings and you only have X amount of investigators, it's going to leave a lot of them being unsolved. So having their different technologies and things like that are going to help us be able to solve.
Lauren LaRosa
What about, though? Because they were telling me yesterday the jails are overflowing at this point. People don't even have cells. They're sitting in the hall so what do y' all do then? Like, where do you put people that you're gonna. Like, they're. They're gonna be arresting people?
Mayor Paul Young
Yeah, they are. So they're gonna be working with counties, so that's around the city in order to help on that. But that is a big problem, which is why I think our emphasis needs to be on find the most violent folks, and that's who we focus on. And not just, you know, petty crimes a lot.
Lauren LaRosa
It's interesting to hear you hear say that, because a lot of people. I know when Chicago, when they were saying that what might happen, a lot of people's p was it's just not going to help because of the force that'll be, you know, that'll be brought to the city, which people are going to fight back against. But you think opposite because you feel like you'll be able to work with them?
Mayor Paul Young
I won't say I think opposite. I think that my goal is to get the strategy executed in a different way than what people are perceiving. I think people are perceiving. If you have the military that's enforcing laws in the city against people, then it's going to lead to more conflict. My goal is to minimize the role of the National Guard and try to elevate the role of those other entities.
Lauren LaRosa
Got you. How do you control that, though? Like, how do you know they're going to come in here and listen to you?
Mayor Paul Young
We can't control it. I mean, but my goal is to try and use influence to do it. What I've heard from the folks in D.C. was that when they first came in, it was chaotic. And this came from the feds and the folks that work that. That work for the mayor and all that in D.C. right. But when they start. When they started folding into the operations that D.C. police already had in play, that's when they both said they were most successful. So that's why I'm trying to drive this thing in that direction as opposed to what they're concerned about in Chicago.
Lauren LaRosa
Do you feel like. Do you feel like you were at the point before this where you were like, there was no hope for solving the violent crime issue here?
Mayor Paul Young
No, I definitely didn't feel hopeless on it because we've been doing it. I mean, we've been moving it in the right direction.
Lauren LaRosa
Haven't you guys seen a decrease? I think she said 30% decrease.
Mayor Paul Young
30% on homicides, 19% on violent crime year over year, 37% on car thefts, and that was in 20, 24 this year would be nose numbers. So I know that the things we're doing work, it's just when you starting and you this high, when you get to this level, it's still too high and people are still frustrated. So for me, I didn't think that it was hopeless. I just thought it's going to take more time. And so that's why I want to. When this happens, since it's happening, we can't stop it from happening. I want to try and drive it in a way where it does amplify the work that we've already been doing.
Lauren LaRosa
So even if your governor has said no to it, it still could have happened, correct?
Mayor Paul Young
No, I don't. I don't think. I mean, because then it would have been. Yeah, it would have been different. But when you have the governor, it puts us in the same position that DC Was in.
Lauren LaRosa
The reason why I asked that is because I think a lot of people would say, if you guys are seeing the decreases, even though it's taking time, why not just bank on what you've already been doing? Why. Why say yes to that? And there's the risk of it not working in your favor.
Mayor Paul Young
Well, I mean, I think the thing is we don't get to say yes. The governor said yes.
Lauren LaRosa
Why would question more to him? Why would he say yes?
Mayor Paul Young
Yeah, well, that's a different kind of politics. That's politics above me. Because, you know, they're both Republicans and we're a blue dot in a red state, and that decision was made without us.
Lauren LaRosa
That's messed up.
Mayor Paul Young
But, yeah, it's a. It's a. It's an interesting time, but it's one of those things where my goal is to make sure we navigate it in a way that we become an example for the rest of the country. How do you deal with it in a way where you minimize negative impact on the community and maximize positive impact?
Lauren LaRosa
Well, I wish I the best of luck, man.
Mayor Paul Young
I appreciate it.
Lauren LaRosa
That's challenging.
Mayor Paul Young
Appreciate it. Yeah.
Lauren LaRosa
It's a hard spot to be in.
Mayor Paul Young
It's definitely hard. I mean, yesterday the government was here. We did a press conference yesterday. Yesterday. So there's a lot of the feelings are at a peak right now in the city.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah.
Mayor Paul Young
But that aside, you're gonna enjoy your time. We do have challenges with crime, but so do cities all across the country.
Lauren LaRosa
Right.
Mayor Paul Young
So, you know, my goal is to just make sure that we amplify the good in the city and we overtake this negative narrative and don't let it dominate the headlines and define who we.
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Now. That was my sit down with the mayor of Memphis again, Mayor Paul Young. And they have created a website dedicated to, you know, informing the public on what to expect. That website, where people can go and get some of that information is Memphis, Tennessee.gov backslash safe and clean. And it just answers your questions about, you know, what to expect, what does this look like when the federal agencies come in, and a ton of other frequently asked questions. I hope this works out. I mean, I think anytime somewhere is lacking resources. As we talked about, he said, the jails are overflowing and there's just not a lot of support where they need it. There's a problem that needs to be solved for sure. I just hate that there's a fear because of the relationship between certain law enforcement agencies and the people on the ground that live in these communities. There's a fear of, does this cause us more harm or does this help us? So I'm hoping and I'm praying that the plan that Mayor Young talked about is a plan that is actually going to help the city and that other cities can look at and watch and mimic, you know, as this thing spreads from city to city. It happened in D.C. i know that there were some conversations around Chicago that didn't happen. You know, now Memphis and you know, other places. So yeah, I'm just wishing the best for everybody. At the end of the day there is always a lot to talk about. Y' all could be anywhere with anybody talking about it, but you guys choose to be right here with me. I'm Lauren LaRosa. This is the latest with Lauren LaRosa. This has been an exclusive episode, an exclusive sit down interview with Mayor Paul Young who is the mayor of Memphis, Tennessee. As I was gonna say as they prepare for but as a currently like right now as the National Guard descends on Memphis. So you guys are bringing you the latest right from there. See you guys in my next episode.
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Podcast: The Breakfast Club (iHeartPodcasts)
Date: September 29, 2025
Host: Lauren LaRosa (special segment: The Latest with Lauren LaRosa)
Guest: Mayor Paul Young, Mayor of Memphis
This exclusive episode focuses on the recent deployment of the National Guard to Memphis in response to violent crime surges. Host Lauren LaRosa sits down with Memphis Mayor Paul Young for an in-depth discussion about why the National Guard is being sent, how the city is preparing, community concerns, and the mayor’s strategy for balancing safety, resources, and community relations during this high-tension moment.
Announcement: As of September 29, 2025, the National Guard is being deployed to Memphis per an order from Governor Bill Lee—supported by President Donald Trump—to assist in curbing violent crime.
(04:01) Lauren contextualizes the atmosphere: “These everyday people, as much as they want the resources and the help… they're scared right now, y’all.”
Community Response: Lauren describes a city on edge, with residents “buckling down” and preparing to avoid unwanted interactions with the Guard. There’s widespread uncertainty about what the arrival of military force will mean for the predominantly Black community.
(05:20) “They’re making sure… license and registration is up to date… warrants… because they don’t want to have to have contact with the National Guard.”
Mayor's Role: Mayor Young clarifies that the decision was made above him:
(07:56) “Our governor has said yes and the President said yes. So as mayor, I don't have a say in whether they come or not.”
Strategic Focus: Mayor Young is trying to “align how they come, where they're going to show up, what their assignments are going to be” to minimize negative impact and keep the Guard’s focus on violent crime—not petty offenses.
(08:19) “My goal is to try to keep them focused on violent crime and not, you know, petty crimes and things of that nature.”
Federal Agency Involvement: He emphasizes that beyond the National Guard, the real value comes from investigative resources like the FBI and DEA, which can help solve more major crimes with their advanced technologies.
(09:00) “The thing that's going to be helpful is the FBI, DEA… support our police department… different technologies… to solve [crimes].”
Jail Overcrowding: Lauren asks about the overflowing jail conditions and concern over more arrests. Mayor Young acknowledges this as a significant issue, reiterating his intent to limit action to the “most violent folks.”
(09:49) “That is a big problem, which is why I think our emphasis needs to be on. Find the most violent folks, and that’s who we focus on. And not just, you know, petty crimes.”
Community Skepticism: Lauren relays local worries that increased force might escalate tension—with historic distrust of militarized responses in Black communities.
(10:07) “A lot of people's [opinion] was it’s just not going to help because of the force that'll be brought to the city..."
Mayor Young’s Aspirations: While he can’t control National Guard actions, he hopes to use influence to integrate them under existing police guidance—referencing D.C. as a potential model when federal forces aligned with local operations.
(10:58) “We can’t control it. I mean, but my goal is to try and use influence to do it… when they started folding into the operations that D.C. police had… that's when they were most successful.”
Crime Data & Progress: Mayor Young points out real progress:
(11:45) Lauren: “Haven’t you guys seen a decrease? I think she said 30% decrease.”
(11:49) Mayor Young: “30% on homicides, 19% on violent crime year over year, 37% on car thefts…”
Political Dynamics: The mayor describes Memphis as a "blue dot in a red state," noting partisan divides and that the National Guard decision was made without local input.
(13:03) “That’s a different kind of politics. That’s politics above me… that decision was made without us.”
Leadership Challenge: Mayor Young frames his primary goal as minimizing community harm and turning Memphis into a national example for successfully navigating such tense interventions.
(13:19) “My goal is to make sure we navigate it in a way that we become an example for the rest of the country… minimize negative impact… maximize positive impact.”
Closing Reflections: Lauren and Mayor Young express hope but acknowledge the difficulty of the situation, with city sentiment at a “peak.”
(13:41) Mayor Young: “It’s definitely hard… the government was here. We did a press conference yesterday… the feelings are at a peak right now.”
Resource for Public Updates:
(18:26) Lauren: “They have created a website dedicated to... informing the public… memphistn.gov/safeandclean… answers your questions about... what to expect…”
(05:21) Lauren LaRosa:
"People were having a lot of conversations with me… to the point where I said to the Pod Box Podcast festival team… is there a way I can talk to the mayor and just, you know, have a conversation with him about what's going on and what the plan… people are scared."
(07:56) Mayor Paul Young:
“As mayor, I don't have a say in whether they come or not. So what we're doing now is working to align how they come, where they're going to show up, what their assignments are going to be.”
(09:47) Mayor Paul Young:
“That is a big problem, which is why I think our emphasis needs to be on find the most violent folks, and that’s who we focus on.”
(10:26) Lauren LaRosa and Mayor Young:
Lauren: “But you think opposite because you feel like you'll be able to work with them?” Mayor Young: “I won't say I think opposite. ... My goal is to minimize the role of the National Guard and try to elevate the role of those other entities.”
(11:49) Mayor Paul Young:
“30% on homicides, 19% on violent crime year over year, 37% on car thefts ... when you get to this level, it’s still too high and people are still frustrated.”
(13:03) Mayor Paul Young:
“That’s a different kind of politics. That’s politics above me… we’re a blue dot in a red state… that decision was made without us.”
(13:19) Mayor Paul Young:
“My goal is to make sure we navigate it in a way that we become an example for the rest of the country. How do you deal with it in a way where you minimize negative impact on the community and maximize positive impact?”
This timely interview captures Memphis at a crossroads—balancing hope for greater safety and real skepticism about militarized solutions. Mayor Young is intent on making the best of a decision imposed on the city and leveraging federal resources to sustain the recent progress in reducing violent crime. The episode is a compelling snapshot of urban governance, community relations, and the push-and-pull between local and state/federal power.
Lauren closes with a call for cities nationwide to watch Memphis as a possible model—or cautionary tale—for the evolving debate over public safety and the role of armed forces in American cities.