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This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human. I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything.
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And everybody exclusive know she don't lie about that, right?
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Lauren came in hot. Hey, y'. All, what's up? It's Lauren LaRosa. And this is the latest with Lauren LaRosa. This is your daily dig on all things pop culture, entertainment news, and all of the conversations that shake the room, baby. Checking in behind the scenes of the grind, which is where we get on in behind the scenes of just kind of like the day to day. What's happening, what's not happening, all of the things back on the grind, y'. All. Today was such a day at work. I'm feeling so unsure of myself. Ugh. I just had to get that out. I recorded a video coming here, and it's. You know, what's so crazy? It's like, it's not unsure of my capabilities. I think I'm trying to figure out, like, when missteps happen. I'm trying to figure out, like, what the root cause is. Like, what is it? What's happening within my mind and in my brain and are making me feel like I'm not owning my space the way that I should be. I think we talked a little bit about that, you know, before a few days ago when we checked in behind the scenes of the grind. And that's just been, like, a constant thing for me this week and a little bit of last week as well, too. I be so honest with y'. All. I get on here and just, like, treat y' all like y' all are like my diary or something. So low ridings. Don't ever say I ain't give y' all nothing. Cause I be giving y' all all the inside scoop. But, yeah, I think it's just. I don't know. There's just been a. I mean, there is an added pressure. Not really, though, but I guess so. Ish. I think that's a self proclamation, though. Like, I think when things start to feel like they're added pressure, they only are if you treat life or whatever the situation is like there is added pressure. So I don't even want to give into that because that's not what I'm feeling. I'm. Maybe it's a. It's not overwhelming. I don't know. Y' all can't. Can't describe it, can't explain it, but I'm just off my pivot a little bit. I'm aware, though, as you guys see, because I'm telling You guys so trying to just hone in on what it is. One of the things that I did this week, that I prioritized this week was organization. And I think organization didn't really matter as much when I was coming from a place where, like, I don't know, it just not even that organization. It's not that it didn't matter. Organization just wasn't. It's never been a priority for me. Like, I've always thought it's cool, I'm good because I can operate in chaos. And I do think now that I am caring more about what I'm putting out into the world, how I'm putting it out, what the conversations I'm having are. Because, you know, I think when your name is on the line, there's just a lot more on the line. Organization is just like, so much. It means so much to me because the more organized I am, I think the better I'm able to understand the what, the why, and the relevancy behind anything I'm talking about. But also, like, even if I'm on an island stranded by myself, and I don't mean physically, I mean, like, just mentally, right? Like, if I'm on this island all alone and I have to debate my way out of anything, I always think about this. Like, if I'm in a courtroom and I'm the only person that believes that this person is innocent in this courtroom, the only thing that is going to save me is factual information. But not just that, the organization of it and how it's presented. So I think that's one of the things behind the scenes of the grind that, like, I'm really trying to sharpen. I've never really been a person that has been the most organized. I think most leaders that are creators have a sense of organization because you're delegating and stuff like that. But I think the more with more responsibility just comes, you know, heavy is the head that wears the crown. Like, the more responsible, the more responsibility requires a different level of you. So I don't know if maybe, like, that's what's happening. Like, I'm being pushed to, like, this next level of like, okay, delegate. Okay, open your mouth. When things are not right. Okay, Lee girl. Like, I think that's where I'm being pushed to. So today has been like a tug of war for me. Just, like, mentally, because it's a battle when, like, you naturally, like, eat, sleep, and breathe certain things. And then things are not 100. Things are not moving at a hundred percent, as if you do that, like, and that's what, like, freaks me out about this, this whole, you know, feeling of, like, unsure of myself. I've never been a person that has ever been unsure about my unsure about myself in anything. So, so it's two things. It's the fact that I'm not in a new space. Like, it's not like I'm walking into a new career path and I'm having to figure out, do I like it here, why am I even here? How does my, you know, skillset and my capability even progress me in the space that I am in? That is not it. Because this is what I've been doing. I'm in a new space physically, but this is the lane of things that I've been doing for some time. So I'm like, what the heck? Like, what's happening? Like, why is my A game off? Like, what is going on? And then secondly, it's, you know, feeling unsure about yourself. It's just a very, it's a very hard concept to grasp when you've never been through that. But I try to. Like, one of the things I told myself today was that I'm not giving that too much light. Like, I'm going to sit in the feeling of how I feel today. I'm going to talk about it, I'm going to get it out. And once I do that, you not getting much else from me on that whatsoever. Because I think it's, it's, I feel like the feeling of being unsure lends to like, the feeling of like, faith. And for me, whenever I don't know what's about to happen, I'm in one of these, like, nightmare spots in life where you can't control what's going on. And like, you know, things just feel so heavy, whatever. Not like work wise, but just like in life in general. Like, whenever I'm in like a very crazy, weird space where like, you really can't control much of anything. The only thing that I control is the amount of faith that I have in God to like, just allow me to do what I naturally do in situations. We talked the other day, if you missed that podcast episode, make sure you go back and listen to it. But in situations, I always am trusting God that I will figure it out. And I do. In situations where I've learned that it is not my job to figure things out, I can't solve everyone's issues. I can't be, you know, like, I, I, I can't be the crutch for everybody. Like, I, I just Can't I trust God? And I have faith in God to give me that, like, intuition of, like. No, Lauren, is. You gotta say no. No, Lauren, you gotta put your foot down. No, Lawrence, see something, say something. You know what I mean? So my faith is, like, unshaken, but I just need to apply that to all aspects of my life right now. Like, and maybe that's it too. Like, I haven't had a lot of time to just kind of, like, sit down in the spirit. Like, just really sit down, have some conversations with God. I don't even think I need to have conversations with God. I think I need to be quiet and listen. So I think that's it. I think that, you know, that is kind of, you know, this uncertainty and this feeling that I've been feeling is a very new feeling for me. I've never experienced this type of feeling in my life. But I'm also. Although I'm not in a new career field, I'm physically in a new space, and I'm physically at a different point in my life and different level of my life. So, you know, maybe, hey, that's that. Maybe that is what it is. Like, maybe it's. It's, you know, it's not. It's not a new. Like, I didn't wake up and go decide to become a freaking dentist, and I'm like, girl, what are you doing here? But things are different. Like, man, the podcast will be one in. In March. I got to start planning something for that. I don't want to just have, like, a party to celebrate. Like, I don't mind doing that, like, on, like, you know, but I want to do something that is, like, very impactful to celebrate the first year of the podcast. Because I feel like this podcast, like, is literally, like my baby. Like, it's grown physically, like, in its appearance, in its sound. It's grown in the thoughts and the conversations that we have here, because I've gotten more comfortable just talking to you guys. But it's also just, like, really grown me just, you know, being responsible for a podcast and a show and working with a team of people. It makes you, like, really? This is what I'm talking about on the other entity of my life. Like, I thought I had it all figured out as far as, like, you know, how this whole thing of, like, life and being an adult and grown upness works. Is grown up ness a word? No, grown upness is not a word. But I thought I had it all figured out. And then, you know, you enter new levels of your life. And it's like, no, this new level requires a different version of you. You cannot use the old version of yourself. The old corners that you were cutting, you know, you can't do it. You just can't. So I, I, I really want to make sure that one year is. Is, like, you know, a thing. But I say all that to say within this year, within the podcast, about to be 1 years old. I think about just all of the things that we've been through here together on the podcast. That sounds weird, because I'm sitting here talking to y', all, and I can't see anybody. That still freaks me out, too. Like, that still freaks me out that I can't see none of the lowriders. But y' all can see and hear me. But I know y' all out there, though, because we be talking on Twitter, we be talking on Instagram, all that stuff. When I see y' all in person, we talk about the podcast. But, yeah, I just, there's. I. Maybe it's a transition period, and we've been through it together, so, you guys know from the very beginning. But what I'm realizing as this podcast hits a year and, you know, this time has partaken, I think the biggest thing is new levels require, like, new versions of yourself. So I think that's what I'm walking into right now. And I don't know, maybe I was fighting that a little bit and just thinking I could handle everything, and I got it. And I'm like, you know, I'm Brown girl grinding. Like, I. I'm. I got it. No, not at all. So readjusting some things, just, you know, personally, but also professionally in the way that I do, you know, things day to day. I think that's the reoccurring lesson that I've been getting over these last, like, five days. And maybe I just realized that in talking it out, and that's why I be talking to y', all, even though I can't see or hear you guys. You help me. All right, y', all, let's get on into the latest. Enough about my problems. Let's get into somebody else's. So NBA Youngboys sat down with Complex. He sat down with Jordan Rose. Now, I just want to say shout out to Jordan Rose over at Complex, because NBA Youngboy is not an easy interview, okay? And I don't mean he's not an easy interview, because, like, he was rude. He just doesn't really say much. And the little bit that you do get out of him, I think that there Is. I mean, with any interview, I think of interviews like playing spades. There is like such a dance to the conversation between you and another person. It's really a dance when you do it with multiple people. So when it's like you and a team interviewing someone, but when it's just you and that person, the dance is a lot different. Because if I'm playing spades and I have a team member, my team member knows, you know, all right, follow suit, know what I'm cutting. You know what I'm saying? Like, you. You kind of know where to go. We watching the board, we know how to play together. But when you're interviewing somebody, y' all aren't prepping together. So that person, you know, it's not like it's a. Like a malicious battle in an interview whatsoever. And this interview didn't feel like that either. Jordan Rose did an amazing job, but that person's coming from a whole different place in mental space with a whole different objective than you are. So trying to figure out the best way to meet in the middle and have that conversation. Only the greats do it. And Jordan Rose, I've been watching him on Complex. I feel like Complex is doing a good job of building him as talent. Speedy Mormon, who, like, you know, is the face of Complex and has been for a long time, is. I feel like I was telling a friend this. I feel like Speedy is kind of like their. Like, he's out of here. He's doing the bigger interviews. He's traveling for the interviews. You know, he has a lot going on. And the brand is smart to keep branding him and Building 360 with Speedy in the way that they are. But they're also really smart in getting a person like Jordan Rose, who can be a little bit more readily available for all things, for all talent, is, you know, in New York a bit more, it seems, than Speedy. I don't know. It just seems like it because Speedy's all over doing his interviews. But, you know, I'm sure because of the success of 360 with Speedy on Complex, Complex has gotten an influx of people wanting to host conversations because Speedy's conversations are so great. Jordan Rose is in that. In that vein of thing things. And I think Complex was so smart about the branding and the way that they chose their talent to lean into, because Jordan Rose isn't 360 night and day from Speedy. They're two very different people, two very different interview styles, for sure. Another thing that I thought was smart with Conflux, Jordan Rose is a lot younger, so, you know, I think the things that he's able to care about are just a little bit different than, you know, the conversations that Speedy are having. And you need both. Like, Speedy's still young, I think. How old is Speedy? If you guys don't know who I'm talking about, I'm like, I don't know what rock you live under, because here at the latest, like, you gotta know the people. But Speedy Mormon is a correspondent for Complex. He's been there for a very, very long time. And to be honest with you, I feel like Speedy has built Complexes and interview platform to become a space where artists, like, artists and talent. You gotta go through Complex. Like, that is a. It's like how you gotta stop at the Breakfast Club when you go to New York. You gotta talk to Complex when you're rolling something out, whether you're a music artist, you know, an actress, actor, whatever the case may be. Because Speedy's interviews have been. They've done so well, and they pick up so well for talent. So now Complex is developing, you know, this other talent. And I don't know if Jordan Rose was on the platform prior to. But if he was, they're positioning him a lot better now. If he wasn't, don't even matter, because he is killing it right now. I just wanted to show them that love because I watch their stuff a lot, and it's really, really good to watch. But I also just know how important it is to big up the people in the seats that are doing the work, especially the people that are on our grind and coming up, because we all have days, like I told you guys, I was feeling. And in these last, like, honestly, it's been since last week where you're not always on, you know, a hundred. You're not always, you know, averaging the best numbers from the court, but you're still doing a great job. So I want to make sure. I don't know if they ever will hear this, but if so, I want to be the one to tell you, doing a great job, but getting into the interview. So NBA Youngboy sat down with Jordan Rose, and, oh, my God, y', all, like, he barely talks. Okay? So I just want to give y' all an example of him barely talking. I want you guys to take a listen to Jordan Rose asking NBA Youngboy about the Massa Tour, which is the Make America Slime Again tour that NBA Young Boy did. Very successful tour. We'll get into that. And the fact that Birdman was there, like, every Tour stop. And Birdman talked a lot about the tour when he was at Versus. He just kept yelling and kept me yelling and kept me yelling about this tour. But this is a perfect example of basically what the interaction for the most part was like in the interview. Let's take a listen.
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Birdman was also on the tour, like basically every stop. What was his role on. On the road with you?
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Just chilling. Being unk.
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Being unk. You got like a favorite memory on the road with him every moment. Every moment. Yeah. Yeah. That's somebody that's been with you since you were about 16.
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What.
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What does he mean to you?
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I think you should ask him. Do you want to get some fresh air?
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You want to take a walk? Only if you promised that we could come back.
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Maybe.
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Maybe A handshake of a maybe is still a pretty solid handshake. Would you agree?
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I'm gonna hold you to it.
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The maybe.
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So I don't think NBA Youngboy meant any harm. He did say when they first came back in, like, I'm not the best at words. And I was like, that's ironic. NBA Youngboy not the best with words. Like, your music goes so crazy though. Like how? Like, okay, but you know, interview artists. An artist in an interview is different than an artist in a studio making music in a setting that is his own, that he can own. I get it. But they got into some things. So they talked about this whole Michael Jackson, NBA Youngboy comparison. Because one of the things that gets thrown on NBA Youngboy is that he is the Michael Jackson of his generation because of how crazy his fans go for him. Like his level of celebrity is insane. I thought his answer was actually very mature. Like he won't say too many words, but I thought these words made a lot of sense. Let's take a listen.
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I don't know nothing about no Michael Jackson though.
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Which. Yo, yb, you got a song called Dirty Ayanna sampling Dirty Diana.
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I don't understand the star.
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Okay.
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Oh. Cause you wasn't.
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We wasn't like really alive at his peak when like women was like passing out.
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I feel like certain should be over exaggerated sometimes. So you gotta think about it. They over exaggerate about me sometimes.
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How.
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But how though?
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Like how like that statement, right, that you the Michael Jackson, that's like going too far.
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Well, first of all, NBA Youngboy very on point. I mean, I don't know what it was like when Michael Jackson was alive. I wasn't. I mean that's not true. I was alive and I was Aware of things when Michael Jackson was alive. But I was so young. I wasn't like, the age I am now sitting in the scene I'm sitting in now. When did Michael Jackson die? Let's look this up. Yeah. So Michael Jackson died in 2009. So in 2009, I was. I was in high school. I graduated from high school in 2010. He died June 25, 2009. Right. So, yes, I was in high school. That probably. That was my. I was my junior year of high school. So it's like, you, of course, you know Michael Jackson. You understand the celebrity of Michael Jackson. But I was. It wasn't like I was, like, attending Michael Jackson concerts or, like, paying enough attention to, like, really have felt the celebrity of Michael Jackson. So I think an NBA youngboy is younger than me. NBA youngboy, he has to be around Jordan Rose's age, because Jordan Rose. Jordan Rose made a. Like a kind of like a comment about them being around the same age. Yes. NBA young boy is 26 years old. Okay. So if I'm 34. NBA youngboy is 26 years old. Yeah. He. If I am telling y', all, I got a chance to, like, see it from the TV screen, and I don't even really fully understand the impact of Michael Jackson. Not that I don't understand it, but I just, you know how, like, you have to see some things up close and personal to really, like, oh, shoot, I ain't get a chance to do that. So if I haven't gotten a chance to do that, NBA youngboy is. He wasn't even like, yo, he's 26 years old. I think a lot of people in his position could have used a question like that and a moment like that to lean into the hype because he knew it was going to go viral. I mean, this NBA youngboy, it's going to go viral regardless. But he could use that to lean into the hype. But he didn't. He answered it in a way that was, like, smart. And I think that people talk about NBA youngboy as if he's this, like. Because, I mean, there, you know, there's the cases and the charges and the baby mamas and the, you know, the drugs and, like, there's a lot of things that be going on over there, allegedly. Right. But I think people have conversations about NBA youngboy as if he's, like, so unaware of, like, what's happening outside of his bubble. And I think sometimes he does lean into that. And we're going to get into a moment where he did that during this interview. But he's very well aware of culturally, his influence, his touch on his people and his fans, and just kind of where he sits in the hierarchy of like, the greats, because people put him literally next to Michael Jackson, which a lot of people take issue with. Now let's. Okay, so I told you guys that there was a moment in this complex interview with NBA YoungBoy and Jordan Rose where NBA Young Boy plays very like, yeah, I don't know what you talking about. So Jordan Rose brings up the name of the tour, Massa Make America Slime Again. Obviously, it's a play on Trump's MAGA Make America Great Again. Now, this NBA YoungBoy Tour was a huge success. It sold over 500,000 tickets. It grossed over $75 million across four across 42 to 45 sold out arena dates. Each date sold out, making it one of the highest grossing rap tours within reports, indicating roughly around $1.5 million per show. Okay. At a time where people are having issues selling tickets and getting people into seats, this man sold out 42 to 45 arenas, $1.5 million a show. The music is streaming crazy. His numbers go crazy. And in this interview, he said he still owns his masters. He know a little something, but he act like he didn't though, when it came to Trump. Let's take a listen.
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What is that message? Make America Slime Again. Like, what does that title mean to you?
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And then follow whatever Trump applying.
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Follow whatever Trump applying?
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Yeah.
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What? In what way?
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Like in every way.
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Well, you know, Trump pardoned you, got you off house arrest.
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I don't know nothing about that.
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What you mean? Did you ever speak to him about, like, did you ever have a.
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Nothing about that.
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Right.
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Okay.
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But the album's name, Make America Islam Again, the tour is named Make America Slime Again.
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It was, the name was like, it's just to enforce whatever Trump applied message.
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Have you ever met Trump?
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Why you keep thinking?
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Cause you, like, you got me thinking right now. Yb like.
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Okay, so this is obviously him playing a little stupid. I. I can't confirm whether he's met Trump or not. I did reach out to the White House to, to see if that conversation happened because I don't know where else I'll get it. I'm gonna try and work it out another way as well too. But in 2024, NBA YoungBoy was sentenced by a federal judge in Utah after he admitted to possessing a weapons despite the fact that he was a convicted felon. So he reached this agreement that he would get that basically took care of his state charges. So they resolved his state charges against him, and then it settled two sets of federal charges against him. One that carried a 23 month sentence, and then the other ordered five years of probation and a $200,000 fine. And he was given a pardon on these charges, on these gun charges, and was released and able to go home. The pardon even made it where his probation terms, including, like, drug testing and all of that, were out of here. Now, at the time, he released a statement thanking Trump. He says, I want to thank President Trump for granting me a pardon and giving me the opportunity to keep building as a man, as a father, and as an artist. But there's been no confirmation of, like, the meeting or anything like that since this time. I get it. President Trump gave NBA Youngboy another shot at not sitting behind bars. Career, family, all the things, right? All the things I know this month. All the things. I get it. So I'm not knocking him for his answer. Let me back that up. I'm not knocking him for acknowledging. Well, he didn't even acknowledge it. I'm not knocking him for obviously being grateful for Trump for doing that, which is, in my opinion, whatever, right? Politically, I don't know him. I don't know enough. We haven't heard enough, you know, politically, to understand how NBA Youngboy would have arrived at being a Trump supporter if he had not gotten a pardon. Not enough in recent. Not enough consistently. I think with some, I mean, shoot, Nicki Minaj is the same way. I would have never thought that Nicki Minaj would end up a Trump supporter. It makes sense with NBA Youngboy, though, because this man was literally pardoned. He was about to go to jail. He was about to be behind bars. It was about to be, you know, two years of sitting down solid and then another term sitting down at home. Right? So I understand that. I just wish that he wasn't pushing a whole mega regime thing, because obviously, NBA Youngboy is very influential and very impactful. He is like the leader of you, one of the leaders of youth culture. If not. Honestly, I'mma say it. NBA Youngboy is the leader of youth culture at this point. Youth culture is basically like the pushais, the youngins, like the. The people. Look, I'm 34 years old. I gotta. It's not me anymore, but like the 31 and under, like the. I would say indy. I mean, the kids love NBA Youngboy. Y' all remember seeing those tour videos and hearing the crowd and just seeing how crazy they were going that man say jump, they say, how high? So I think politically, and again, I haven't heard him speak much on politics to say this indefinitely, but I don't know if he understands where he's leading the people. Especially, like, you know, I know that there are some music artists who, although, you know, come from underserved communities and blah, blah, all that stuff that, you know, that goes along with it still feel like, or felt like President Trump was the answer. But if you look at things that have happened more recently, I don't understand why anyone would think that or push that. And I just don't know if NBA Youngboy, as smart as he is, I don't know if he understands how his blind loyalty ends people up longer term. And honestly, I mean, maybe he does. Maybe I'm completely wrong. Maybe we'll get that in another interview. But I would rather hear that, like, okay, like, why push whatever Trump is pushing? Why, yes, he pardoned you. I totally understand that. But, like, I mean, Fetty Wap was recently released, and he wasn't pardoned, but the First Step act, which, you know, got through under the. Under the Trump administration, is the reason why he was able to come home. But he's not out here. I want you to be mag again, baby. Yeah. I want you. I'm not even saying that because I want nobody to clip that. Y' all get what I'm saying, though? All right, now, listen, obviously, at this point, if y' all can't tell, I am a converted NBA young boy fan. I never was against NBA Youngboy. I've always liked his music. I just think I wasn't really in tune with, like. Only thing I knew about him was the things that hit the headlines. And, y' all know, on my end of it, sometimes that's just the. That's the cattiness of it all. That's the baby mama drama. That's the, you know, the arrest, the running from the police, the. All of that stuff. But his tour and watching each tour stop in the crowds. I didn't go to the tour, but just I wanted to go. That's how much watching the tour influenced me. I wanted to go to the tour just to experience the energy of it in real life, but didn't end up making it. But he says that he's gonna go back on tour again. He's gonna. His plans are to take it international, hopefully. I stand the fact that he's been able to do all of this with feeling blackballed by the industry, with also not having a lot of mainstream support. Like, he's not played all over the radio. He's not sitting down for a bunch of interviews. A lot of the times when the outlets are talking about him, it is the drama. But people love his music. It goes crazy. I'm all against people going against the regime. I don't support the MAGA stuff, but, I mean, I support. Get paid, young man, get paid. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, but shout out to complex for this interview. This was my breakdown of it. You guys want more episodes like this, let me know. I enjoy talking through interviews with you guys because I think we really get a chance to dissect not only the conversation that is being talked about and, like, the headline of it all, but the actual real conversation, like the how is this impacting us? What does this really mean? Doesn't really mean anything because sometimes these interviews would just be like, this could have been a tweet. We didn't need to see this in an interview. You know how you get that feeling sometimes with your boss? Like, yo, this could have been an email. We didn't need a meeting. But I love it nonetheless. This is the ladies with Lauren LaRosa. This is your daily dig on all things pop culture, entertainment news, and all of the conversations that shape the room. I'm Lauren LaRosa. You guys could be anywhere with anybody talking about all of the things, but you choose to be right here with me, my low riders. I appreciate you and I'll see you in my next episode. Yes.
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Yeah.
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