FULL SHOW: Cardi B Fans React to Ring in Baby Pics, Porsha Says Delta Incident Was Over Loud Phone 🙄 + Dr. Joel Tudman Interview

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Episode: Cardi B Fans React to Ring in Baby Pics, Porsha Says Delta Incident Was Over Loud Phone 🙄 + Dr. Joel Tudman Interview
Date: November 20, 2025
Hosts: DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God

Episode Overview

In this engaging episode, The Breakfast Club delves into the latest celebrity happenings, current events with a socio-political edge, and a deep-dive interview with Dr. Joel Tudman, who discusses mental health, personal journey, and relationships. Highlights include reactions to Cardi B’s “engagement ring” rumors, insight into Megan Thee Stallion’s ongoing legal battles, viral real-life stories questioning medical care for Black women, and a candid, inspiring interview with Dr. Tudman about self-discovery and coping with loss.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Front Page News & Political Commentary

[07:07 – 12:47]

• Epstein Files Transparency Act:

  • President Trump signs a bill releasing unclassified files on Jeffrey Epstein.
  • Concerns are raised about how much will really be disclosed, given new investigations might serve as a loophole for withholding information.
  • “Why are you opening? It’s nothing.” – DJ Envy (10:31)
  • Charlamagne questions transparency: “Since when does this administration follow the law?” (11:20)

• Legal Updates:

  • DOJ didn’t properly indict James Comey; Letitia James’s mortgage fraud case also comes into question.
  • Ongoing skepticism about politically motivated prosecutions.

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2. Listener Call-Ins — “Get it Off Your Chest”

[13:13 – 18:58]

• Listeners air personal grievances, including job loss and political frustrations.
• Notably, a self-identified “MAGA MAGA” fan calls in to defend Trump fervently, calling him "king," prompting Charlamagne to call out bias:
  • “There is no way you could... be objective about Donald Trump because you just called that man king.” – Charlamagne (17:44)
  • “You should never refer to no elected official as a king, bro.” – Charlamagne (18:58)

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3. Pop Culture & Celebrity News: Cardi B Baby Rumors

w/ Lauren LaRosa
[21:01 – 24:00]

• Cardi B posts baby photos showing a ring on her finger, prompting engagement rumors—debunked by her rep.
• NFL congratulates Cardi B and boyfriend Stefon Diggs, which divides fans about league involvement in celebs’ personal lives.
  • “Everyone wants to be part of the algorithm.” – Charlamagne (22:39)
  • Discussion segues into criticism of Taylor Swift coverage and social media engagement.

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4. Megan Thee Stallion’s Legal Battle & Online Harassment

[24:00 – 28:22]

• Details Megan’s defamation suit—manager testifies about impact of false online rumors, including leaked deepfake content and Megan’s need for expensive therapy.
• Discussion on precedent for emotional distress lawsuits due to online slander (shout-out to Cardi B’s case).
  • “That’s why you should sue the hell out of them...garnish all their wages.” – Charlamagne (28:05)
  • “If you win, take their assets. Don’t feel bad about making somebody homeless.” – Charlamagne (28:17)

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5. Medical Racism: Black Women Dismissed by Hospitals

w/ Mimi Brown
[29:16 – 38:55]

• Two viral stories: Black women in Indiana and Texas are turned away by hospitals before giving birth in cars/halls, sparking wider discussion of the Black maternal mortality crisis.
• Charlamagne and Envy stress importance of having doulas and partners who advocate for you.
  • “That’s why doulas are also important, because you need somebody advocating for you in those hospitals.” – Charlamagne (36:38)
  • Envy shares personal story about hospital dismissing his wife’s concerns.

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6. Viral Chicago Attack & GoFundMe Scams

[38:58 – 42:29]

• Mother beaten trying to protect children warns of fake fundraisers; the hosts debate where accountability for youth violence starts—home or environment.
• Community voices call for accountability: “Parents need to be held responsible.” (Clip, 40:53)

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7. Deep-Dive Interview: Dr. Joel A. Tudman – “The Fight to Find Yourself”

[42:51 – 68:54]

Core Themes:

• Journey of Self-Discovery, Mental Health, and Personal Loss

  • Dr. Tudman shares personal struggles—the breakdown, grief from losing his father and son, and path toward healing (therapy, mentorship, journaling).
  • “Every accolade...could not solve the inner pain.” – Dr. Tudman (43:21)
  • “Pulled a gun to my head...tried to figure out how to maneuver through.” – Dr. Tudman (44:41)

• Suicide, Faith, and Honest Conversation

  • The panel discusses the stigma in religious communities about mental health.
  • “It’s a lack of empathy and compassion to have a conversation with the person to find out why they felt that way.” – Dr. Tudman (49:49)
  • Envy and Dr. Tudman advocate checking in and real support, not trivializing crisis.

• Role of Partners & Relationships

  • Explores how marriage isn’t always 50/50, sometimes 80/20, and details his wife’s support during his struggles.
  • “Having a good spouse is the opposite of having a bad one... you survive a lot of bad things.” – Dr. Tudman (54:33)

• Guidance on Building Healthy Relationships

  • Discusses questions and conversations that should happen before kids and marriage (finances, faith, conflict resolution).
  • “Spend time with each other, talk about who you are, what do you like... all those things need to be talked about first.” – Dr. Tudman (57:07)
  • “Just reverse the order. We know what to do.” (58:02)

• Individual and Family Healing

  • Talks about learning to set boundaries and navigate relationships with people who haven’t found their own “healing.”
  • “Once I fought to find me, there’s no need for me to fight you, because you don’t know you.” – Dr. Tudman (67:50)

• Lauren LaRosa’s Personal Journey

  • Lauren vulnerably opens up about not having completed her “fight to find herself,” and Dr. Tudman responds with compassionate, actionable advice.

Notable Quotes:

• “You may encounter many defeats, but you must not be defeated.” – Maya Angelou/Charlamagne (109:36)
• “If you’re doing life right, you’re constantly finding yourself.” – Charlamagne (106:54)
• “My marriage is my marriage. It is not yours.” – Dr. Tudman (55:35)

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8. Just Fix My Mess – Listener Advice Segment

w/ Jess Hilarious
[85:25 – 97:48]

• Jess and the crew help listeners with relationship and family drama, highlighting themes of self-respect, walking away from toxic dynamics, and putting yourself first.
  • “You have to choose yourself.” – Jess Hilarious (96:17)
• Comedic moments blend astute advice with authenticity:
  • “Count that jail sentence... do your jail math, because you can’t be in jail behind this.” – Jess (90:42)

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9. Pop Culture: Glorilla’s R&B Album & Southern Rap Mount Rushmore

[98:17 – 104:56]

• Speculation about a Glorilla R&B album, with playful debate about what that would sound like and celebrity genre crossovers.
• Heated, hilarious discussion about which Southern rappers belong on a “Mount Rushmore”: TI, Scarface, Lil Jon, Outkast, Wayne, Jeezy, and more, debating pioneers vs. lyricists.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “That’s the power of love. I think we evolve in time. I don’t think marriage is 50/50.” – Dr. Tudman (52:13)
• “There’s no way you could be objective about Donald Trump because you just called that man king.” – Charlamagne (17:44)
• “You gotta do your jail math.” – Jess Hilarious (90:42)
• “If you win, garnish all their wages. Don’t feel bad about that.” – Charlamagne (28:16)

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Important Timestamps & Segments

• Epstein Files Act & Political News: 07:07 – 12:47
• “Get it Off Your Chest” Callers: 13:13 – 18:58
• Cardi B Engagement Rumors: 21:01 – 24:00
• Megan Thee Stallion’s Lawsuit: 24:00 – 28:22
• Maternal Health Crisis Stories: 29:16 – 38:55
• Viral Attack/ GoFundMe Scams: 38:58 – 42:29
• Dr. Joel Tudman Interview: 42:51 – 68:54
• Just Fix My Mess Advice: 85:25 – 97:48
• Mount Rushmore of Southern Rap: 98:17 – 104:56
• Lauren’s Takeaways: 106:33 – 108:08

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Episode Tone

• Bold, direct, and comedic, with moments of vulnerability.
• Real talk about social and mental health issues, leavened with jokes and typical playful banter among the hosts.
• Unfiltered listener interactions, warm camaraderie, and a mix of seriousness and levity.

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Conclusion

This episode of The Breakfast Club covers a smorgasbord of hot topics—a rollercoaster between news, celebrity culture, real-life community crises, and powerful conversations about mental health and self-improvement. Dr. Tudman’s interview stands out as especially moving, offering life lessons on finding oneself through adversity, while the hosts and callers keep the cultural pulse beating with humor, candor, and relatable stories.

“You may encounter many defeats, but you must not be defeated.” — Maya Angelou/Charlamagne

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Transcript

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In early 1988, federal agents raced to.

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Track down the gang they suspect of.

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Importing millions of dollars worth of heroin.

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Into New York from Asia.

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Had 30 agents ready to go with it. Shotguns and rifles, and you name it.

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Five, six white people pushed me in the car. I'm going, what the hell?

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Basically your Stay at home, moms were.

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Picking up these large amounts of heroin.

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All you gotta do is receive the package.

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Don't have to open it, just accept it. She was very upset, crying. Once I saw the gun, I tried to take his hand and I saw.

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The flash of light.

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Listen to the Chinatown sting on the.

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Wake you up.

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Wake that ass up.

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Program your alarm to power 105.1 on iheartradio.

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[D]

Jess is not here yet. Charlemagne the God.

[B]

Peace to the planet. It's Thursday. How y' all feel out there? I feel blessed. Black and highly favored. Happy to be here another day to serve our beautiful listeners. Good morning.

[D]

Good morning. How you feeling, man?

[B]

I feel fantastic. I feel great. God woke me up this morning. I had an amazing dream last night. I had an amazing couple of dreams yesterday because, you know, I'm old.

[G]

Was.

[B]

I had to take a nap because I had things to do yesterday afternoon.

[D]

So was I in any of them?

[B]

No, you weren't actually in none of these. But I did have a couple of dreams. I had a dream that I had a. What? Asian extraterrestrial interior designer.

[D]

Okay. What was he designing?

[B]

It was a young lady, and she had on a black wool cap and, like, a black baggy black sweatshirt, baggy black sweatpants. And she was talking like, you've seen the Incredibles before, right? Remember the woman that was making the costumes in the Incredibles?

[C]

The suits?

[B]

What was her name? Edna Mode? Edna Mod, I think her name was. She was talking like her.

[D]

Okay, yes.

[B]

I don't know what that meant. And then I had another dream that a good friend of mine found God.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

So I woke up this morning and text her that.

[D]

Okay, yes.

[C]

All right.

[D]

Come on. I went to a Thai restaurant. You ever ate Thai food? You like Thai food?

[B]

I do.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

I went to a Thai restaurant.

[B]

What's wrong with you, man? Trying to make everything so stupid all the time. Okay, yes. You had Thai food. I like Thai food.

[D]

So let me tell you. So I went to this place. Well, actually, when Madison was young, we used to go to this. This Thai restaurant in Jersey. And then it closed down. And I found out that the owner used to work at all these restaurants. He had all these restaurants, and he was Barack Obama's chef. He retired, and his daughter got married to a Dominican and they reopened another stop.

[B]

So she supporting your people.

[D]

So now it's called Thai Chef Junior. So he gave all the recipes to his son in law.

[B]

I thought Barack Obama chef died or something like that.

[D]

Well, he was one of the chef that cooked for Barack Obama, so. Yeah. So I went to his new restaurant, it's called Thai Chef Junior out in.

[B]

Jersey, and Barack Obama ain't never tasted that man food ever in life.

[D]

They got pictures and everything with each other, so I don't know.

[B]

Okay. I don't know. So you ate Ty? I ate Ty.

[D]

Ty.

[B]

All right. What's up?

[D]

Ty was good.

[B]

Okay. Congratulations.

[D]

Thank you, man. Thank you.

[C]

I don't.

[B]

You know What? Nothing. Congratulations. I ain't had Ty in a minute.

[D]

All right. Anyway. See, you make everything funny.

[B]

Anyway. What happened? I can't even have a conversation about Thai food without this guy. This guy is something else, man. No, me.

[D]

That's you.

[B]

Jesus Christ.

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But we got a special guest joining us this morning. Dr. Joel A. Tudman.

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He'll be joining us.

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He has a new book.

[B]

Yes. He has a pastor and he has a new book called the Fight to Find Yourself Moving from Uncertain to Unstoppable. If you ever tune into Potter's house. You remember Dr. Joe used to preach at Potter's house, right? Yes.

[D]

So we'll talk to him in a little bit.

[B]

He's fantastic.

[D]

Jess is gonna be fixing somebody's mess. And of course we got front page news with Mimi. So don't go anywhere. Wake your ass up.

[B]

I am officially an Instagram shopper too. You hear me? Why is that? My wife's trying to tell me about Instagram shopping for so long. I'd be buying all types of stuff off Teemu and Coof, Andy and sweats. All them comfortable, affordable fits.

[D]

I tried to buy one one time. One pocket was hiding, the other pocket was. Was hiding.

[B]

See, that's how I know you ain't never grew up off Cosby Show. So you should appreciate that. Embrace it. Treat it like a Gordon Garage. I don't want to like all of that. It don't matter.

[D]

Like, pockets got to be symmetry. I don't have one sleeve longer than the other one.

[B]

Man, I had a pocket on my ankle yesterday. I don't care. It feels comfortable and it's affordable. I don't care.

[D]

All right, well, good morning everybody. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page news now on Thursday night's football. The Buffalo Bills play the Texans tonight at 8:15. All right. What's up, Mimi?

[E]

Good Morning, Envy. Good morning, Charlamagne. How y' all doing?

[B]

Blessed, black and highly favored. How are you, Mimi?

[E]

Good, I'm good, thank you.

[B]

All right.

[E]

Well, we start this morning in Washington where President Trump has now signed the Epstein Files Transparency act into law and officially ordering the Justice Department to release all unclassified records connected to Jeffrey Epstein. It's a stunning reversal from the president who just days ago opposed releasing the files. Now, Congress, they passed a bill with overwhelming bipartisan support, 427 to 1 in the House and unanimously in the Senate before sending it to the White House on Tuesday night. Now, under the new law, Attorney General Pam Bondi has 30 days to publish all unclassified DOJ and FBI documents. Internal communications and investigative materials related it to Epstein. But it's unclear how much of that information will actually become public. The law includes several carve outs that allow the Justice Department to redact or withhold information that could reveal victims identities, expose personal or medical information, contain child sexual abuse material, or interfere with an active investigation. And that active investigation clause may now be a major factor. Just days before signing the bill, President Trump announced on Truth Social that he was ordering Bondi to launch a new federal investigation into Epstein's relations with several high profile figures, including Bill Clinton, Larry Summers, Reid Hoffman, JPMorgan Chase, among many others, and other institutions. Now, hours later, Bondi confirmed that she would open that investigation. This morning, Republican Congressman Tom Massie sounding the alarm, saying he fears the president could use this new investigation delay to avoid releasing the files altogether. Let's listen to what he had to say.

[C]

I'm afraid they're going to try and.

[D]

Use a provision of the law that allows you not to release these materials if they're subject of an ongoing investigation. These files implicate billionaires and friends of his and political donors that he's trying to protect. And Epstein also had close ties to our own intelligence agencies and Israel's intelligence agencies. That's why there's so much effort in trying to stop this.

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Yes.

[E]

And at a press conference yesterday, Bondi was asked directly whether this investigation would block or slow down the release of those files. Let's listen to that exchange.

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Does the new investigation by the Southern District of New York, U.S. attorney prevent the department from releasing all of the remaining files? So we have released 33,000, over 33,000 Epstein documents to the Hill and will continue to follow the law and to have maximum transparency. Also, we will always encourage all victims to come forward.

[C]

Do you mean that you will provide all the files by 30 days we.

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Will follow the law.

[A]

The law passed both chambers, but we.

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Will continue to follow the law again while protecting victims, but also providing maximum transparency.

[B]

It was going to be released is probably a big redacted, nothing burger that'll only show Trump's ops like Clinton and Hoffman and some numbers, all the people he already naming, they done for. But it's not going to point the finger at Trump or any of his allies. But I will say for any Republicans, any traditional conservatives that want to take their party back, now is your time to shine because y' all will know the truth. So if there's something you can use in these files to take your party back from maga, now is your time.

[D]

But anything under that investigation can't be be shown. So if, if he, he just said he, he's investigating those individuals, you can't see none of those files. So it's like, what are you opening? It's nothing.

[E]

It's like there's nothing open but envy, to your point. So under the law, if the DOJ withholds any information because of the investigation, they have to, they must publicly explain why within 15 days. So, I mean, they can give any explanation, but within 15 days, if they're going to withhold anything, they have to give a public statement or explanation as to why they are withholding those in that information. So we'll see if that, you know, helps out with us finding out anything. But even though that bill is signed and the 30 day countdown has begun, what the public, as you guys were saying, will actually see and how much could be hidden under the banner of active investigation remains to be seen.

[B]

And also, since when does this administration follow the law? This administration do whatever they say they're told, whatever they're told to do. They don't do that. They don't follow the rules.

[D]

My point exactly.

[E]

Yeah, so we'll see. I mean. And an investigation development that can completely unravel the government's case against James Comey. The Justice Department admitting in court yesterday that the indictment against federal against former FBI director James Comey, it was never presented to a full grand jury, which is a basic requirement under the law. Instead, interim U.S. attorney General, U.S. attorney Lindsey Halligan, who had no prosecutorial experience, you guys will remember that before taking this role, had only the grand jury, four person signed the indictment. Nacomi's lawyer say that mistake alone could, should wipe out the case because without a proper grand jury vote, the vote, the case is not valid and the legal deadline to charge him has already passed. And this isn't the only Trump administration case targeting a political rival that is raising questions. In a separate filing, Fannie Mae's own fraud investigators say that they found no clear evidence that New York Attorney General Letitia James committed mortgage fraud, even though she's now facing charges. And her attorneys say this case only moved forward because of a Trump ally. He pushed for it.

[A]

And.

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And after Attorney General Pam Bondi put Halligan in charge of the original after the original prosecutor refused to bring the case. So we'll continue to watch what. What happens in both of those cases.

[D]

All right, well, that is front page news. Thank you, Mimi.

[E]

Of course.

[D]

Now, everybody else, get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, phone lines are wide open. Again, 800-585-1051. Call us up right now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[C]

This is your time to get it off your chest.

[D]

800-58510.

[C]

Have one.

[D]

We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club.

[C]

Hello?

[B]

Who's this?

[G]

Hey, what's up, man? My name Romeo from North Carolina, bro.

[B]

What's up, Romeo? How you doing, my brother?

[G]

I'm all right, man. I. I want to speak my mind this morning, man. I got fired for no reason because I guess my boss decided to take a younger guy's advice, and he lied on me and said I was in a bathroom of the apartment store smoking a box of cigarettes.

[B]

A whole box, guy.

[A]

You were stressed.

[B]

How you smoke a whole box of cigarettes?

[G]

I don't even smoke, though, Charlie, I.

[B]

Believe you because smoking is nasty.

[C]

I don't.

[B]

Smoking is disgusting. If you were smoking some weed or something, that's a different story. But just a cigarette.

[D]

I'm with you.

[G]

That's right, man. I didn't check the cameras or nothing, man.

[D]

They just let me go, man.

[G]

And I got two kids, bro.

[D]

I mean, you might have to go to human resources if they got a human resource department, and you might have to go see an attorney, brother.

[G]

Okay. Is it me? I can plug in my cash app.

[B]

But you just got fired. Ain't your times ain't that hard. Now you. You just got fired. When?

[G]

About two weeks ago.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

All right.

[B]

Well, go ahead. Throw your cash out.

[G]

All right. My cash out. Dollar sign, G U A P O F L Y.

[B]

Now, I'm gonna tell you something, though. People usually put money in cash apps for very compelling stories. I just got fired story for, you know, because you smoking cigarettes. That's not compelling. In no way, shape, or form. It's a lot of people that just lost their job, brother, over the last couple of weeks.

[A]

Yeah, I'm sorry to hear. But don't you got another check coming still?

[C]

They came already.

[D]

Two weeks is up.

[C]

Probably just got it.

[B]

Well, enjoy the holidays the best you can, my brother.

[D]

Sorry, brother.

[G]

I appreciate it, man. Much love.

[B]

Yes, sir.

[D]

Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, call us up right now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[B]

Yo, Charlemagne. Envy. What up?

[H]

Are we live?

[C]

This is your time to get it off your chest.

[H]

I got an indoor pool.

[C]

We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club.

[D]

We can get on the phone right now.

[B]

He'll tell you what it is.

[A]

We live.

[B]

Hello? Who's this?

[G]

Yeah, this is Trevor.

[C]

Trevor.

[B]

What's up, Trevor?

[D]

Get off your chest, Trevor.

[G]

Oh, yeah, like, my thing is I, you know, I want to put it out there. Maga Maga. We don't have no fracture in a Maga potty. It's no fracture. That's a false narrative.

[B]

Oh, you Maga Maga.

[G]

Yes, sir.

[B]

Okay.

[G]

All day. Yeah, so it's no fracture in a Maga potty. And also, I want to state this because, you know, I sit back and listen, and I heard this, this, this. This thing about Trump this, Trump that. But I want to say, like this.

[B]

Charlemagne, I don't care, bro.

[G]

You know? No, no, I want to say this. Remember when Joe Biden told you at the end of that podcast, if you don't vote for him, you ain't black?

[B]

Yes, I do.

[G]

That's some of the most disrespectful stuff that. Since we want to talk about white people. Racist. That's one of the most racist things that an old white man can tell a black man, if you don't vote for me, you ain't black. Trump. Trump is one of the best presidents outside of Abraham Lincoln. That's in that chair. You know, I'm not here.

[B]

I'm not about to debate with you about this.

[G]

No, but. But like, you remember when Joe Biden told you that, though, right?

[B]

I was sitting there. He told. He said it to me.

[G]

Yeah.

[B]

What you mean?

[G]

Yes, I mean, said nothing negative about that. About who?

[B]

About Joe Biden.

[G]

Yeah, the most disrespectful stuff. And he told you that to your face on your podcast if you don't vote for him. So basically, he's saying, but that's.

[B]

That's not true.

[G]

You know, where you supposed to stand as a black man, that what he Told you.

[B]

Yes, And I watched it.

[G]

Listen.

[B]

Yes. And as I told him in that moment, you know, it's not about me being black. It's about me wanting something for my people. So, I mean, that was. That was the conversation, y' all see.

[G]

But had Trump. But. But had Trump said something like that, it would have exploded. But that did explain that, though. But outside, no idea.

[B]

But outside of that, I want to.

[G]

Say to that news lady, I want to get to that news.

[B]

Mimi Brown.

[G]

Yeah, she got to report the real.

[B]

Story, what wasn't real, what's not the real story.

[G]

Because, like, she got a narrative like. Like she reporting and she got that little narrative, that negative narrative about the king, about the Don, you know, the king.

[B]

My brother. My brother. Listen, no, no, don't hang up on him. This is a good conversation. There is no way that you could.

[G]

I've been knowing about Trump. I've been knowing about Trump since the 80s, man.

[B]

Sure.

[G]

I come up in the inner city all my life. I've been knowing about Trump since the 80s.

[B]

Where are you from?

[G]

Richmond, Virginia.

[B]

If you knew about Trump since the 80s, you'd have a whole. Anyway, I'm not gonna have a conversation. This is what I will say. It's about. It's impossible for you to be objective about Donald Trump because you just called that man king.

[D]

And Don. Like, I don't know why people, like, why you want to argue.

[A]

So.

[B]

So anything that you hear, because, like.

[G]

I know it's going to trigger. Because I know it's going to trigger. You know what I'm saying?

[C]

It don't trigger me.

[D]

No, I just don't want to argue.

[B]

I just know I can't have an objective conversation with you about it.

[D]

But you have a good one.

[G]

But also, I just want to say this, though, if y' all can go back and look at it. Look at the interview with Oprah Winfrey back in the mid-80s when Oprah. When Oprah had her store in Chicago, she used to have Donald Trump on that show all the time. She always used to ask Trump about running for president. You know, Jesse Jackson, he looked out for Jackson. Jackson, homegirl from the. Like, you did a movie with Beyonce. What's her name? Like the singer? The black girl who got her family killed. Yeah. Jennifer Hudson. Pump took her in after that incident happened with her family, with Michael Jackson.

[B]

I never heard that.

[G]

Michael.

[B]

I never heard.

[G]

You ever heard of that.

[B]

No. But listen, bro, you gotta get off your knees, man. You called that white man a king this morning. The glaze is Crazy. The Krispy Kreme around your lips right now is ridiculous. And I'm not. If that's your opinion, that's your opinion. But God damn, you can't even be objective and have an objective conversation with somebody like that. If you refer to your president as a king. Hey, that's ridiculous.

[A]

That is.

[B]

You should never refer to no elected official as a king, bro.

[D]

All right, well, we got the latest with Lauren coming up. What are we talking about?

[A]

We talking about Cardi B, because she got the. The people going again. There are rumors that she may be engaged, and I got some answers.

[D]

All right, we'll get to that.

[B]

Next.

[D]

It's the breakfast.

[B]

I got the finder. I will never, ever say anything about people who buy from Sheen Fashion Nova ever again. Okay, I just bought one, two, three. I just bought four outfits for $300. Okay, one is a three piece matching set.

[D]

Three piece matching set.

[B]

Three piece matching Set.

[D]

Wait, what do you mean?

[B]

It's a turtleneck.

[D]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Like a peacoat. And the pants.

[A]

Okay, where you going to speak at? That sound like.

[B]

I ain't going nowhere to speak.

[A]

That sound like you write a book.

[B]

Salute. I don't know. What's the name? Couf Andy.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

Yo, when he watched that one time, it's gonna fall apart.

[B]

Hey, yeah. What don't matter.

[D]

One time, Charlemagne came in with these cargoes. I was like, where you get them cargoes? I said, I'm order a pair.

[B]

$8.

[D]

One leg was longer than the other. There was one pocket on one. One pocket.

[B]

There was no symmetry to the pocket, bro.

[A]

I told him, is that some of the Instagram stories is not for tall people. It worked for him because he little.

[D]

Yeah, the one was short. I could see my socks and my ankles.

[B]

Rest in peace, Malcolm. Jamal Warner, man. Lisa Bonet. Gordon Gartrell, y'. All. Y' all too good to wear Gordon out. Wait till I come in here with this effortless luxury three piece matching set.

[D]

Jesus Christ. Let's get to the ladies with Lauren.

[F]

Lauren becoming a straight fat.

[D]

She gets them from somebody that knows somebody.

[B]

She gets the details.

[A]

I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything.

[B]

She be having the latest on.

[D]

The.

[B]

Latest with Lauren LaRosa. Sometimes you have facts, sometimes you have details. Sometimes she have a little bit of everything. Oh, it's the latest on the Breakfast Club.

[D]

Oh, and Lauren, you know what? You know the strings that hang from the on cargo pants? The string went all the way down to my ankle. That's how long.

[B]

Like I Pocket on my ankle yesterday. It don't matter. It's $100.

[A]

Okay?

[B]

For a three piece, I'm so effortless. Luxury matching set.

[A]

Try furniture from TEU Furniture. Just try it, huh? All right, let's keep going. All right, so Cardi B. Cardi B yesterday posted some photos because we know we did the story here that she welcomed her baby a few weeks ago. So she posted some photos with her new baby boy, her and Stefan Digg's baby. The baby is wrapped in a Patriots blanket with a matching hat. There are also some photos of them in the hospital when the baby was first born. Now, the caption says the date November 4, which is what we now know was the day that their son was born. But in one of the photos, when you swipe through, the baby's laying all swaddled in the blanket and Cardi B's hand, her left hand is in the photo and there is a ring on her left hand. So the fans went wild thinking that this was an engagement ring. So I spoke to Cardi B's rep yesterday who tells me that that is not an engagement ring. There's nothing to see here, but people have been sending congratulations to Cardi on the baby, including the NFL now. Okay, so the NFL posted the same photos I just told y' all about in the midst of all of the potentially eng conversation. And people were in the comments upset. People were trying to figure out why the NFL were posting the photos to say congratulations to me. I think we know baby. Yeah, it's for the baby. And of course, Stefan is in the NFL. But the point that people are trying to make is we saw it with Taylor Swift, and I think people get upset anytime the NFL does anything but just talk about numbers in sports. They're like, why are you guys leaning into this? Just because this is trending right now. We don't care about his personal life. Like, why is the NFL posting this?

[B]

First of all, the same reason that y' all lean into all of these celebrities lives. Like, everybody wants to be a part of the algorithm. They want to be a part of whatever pop culture story is going on. So if the NFL is doing that, I don't. I don't have an issue with it.

[D]

Yeah, it's Stefan Diggs. He plays for the NFL. He's congratulating one of the NFL not to do it. Y' all don't make no sense.

[B]

You don't want the NFL to do exactly what y' all doing.

[D]

Makes no sense.

[C]

Sense.

[A]

I mean, people got upset when they were Doing the whole thing with Taylor Swift too. Like making sure she was on the camera accident players about her being there. Like people were upset about that as well.

[B]

I can understand that.

[F]

Why?

[A]

Because she white?

[B]

No, I just, I'm, I don't like Taylor Swift. I can agree with that one.

[A]

I did want to mention too, when Cardi B had posted these photos, there was a cute exchange between her and Stefan Diggs in the comments. So he commented and said, proud of you, boo, but love you. And she said, I love you more. Thank you for my handsome sub son. Love y' all much. Congratulations to them.

[B]

I don't dislike Taylor Swift. I don't know her to dislike her, but I will say that I just felt like it was too much for a girlfriend now that she's engaged. Okay, I can understand it a little bit more. But you know, I think that all that camera time should actually be reserved for watch.

[F]

Okay.

[B]

Yes.

[D]

Well, there's no famous wife like Taylor Swift.

[B]

That's not my problem.

[D]

Well, they want to bring the popularity, the fact that people are watching because of Taylor Swift, they're going to dive right into it.

[A]

Definitely tuning in because of Taylor Swift.

[B]

They're engaged now. So I can, I can see a little bit more of the camera commitment.

[A]

This guy said he just don't like her. He almost said it's not true. Well, in other news, speaking of just, you know, this is not even speaking of in other news, Meg Thee Stallion. So you guys know Meg Thee Stallion is in court right now over a defamation lawsuit that she has against a blogger. And yesterday in court it came out cuz Meg, y' all know Meg goes online and she talks about how a lot of the online hate she receives following the shooting that happened in 2020, what it does to her. Like we've heard her vocally talk about this and I think people don't grasp what that means and a lot of people don't believe her when she says it. So yesterday a former manager of megdasallians got on the stand and they were talking about just kind of what some of the damage that has been done to her because of online things that have been spreading. They are alleging that this blogger spread things such as like deep fake or alleged deep fake porn and stuff like that, which ultimately hurt Megan. He mentioned that Meg, this Meg thee stallion spent $240,000 attending a four week therapy session to deal with the emotional distress that Megan claimed she felt after this blogger made a string of posts, one of which included that deep fake porn video that I mentioned. To you guys, which a lot of people at the time thought was real online, but it turned out not to be real. So the manager detailed in court about how Megan came to him in tears and apologized to him even for having to witness the video, which sparked Megan's decision to undergo therapy at that point because she kept breaking down from it. Now the manager says and recalls that he rushed Meg. He rushed to Megan's side at the hospital after he received a call back in July of 2020 about the shooting with Tory Lanez, which was eventually, you know, Tory was eventually found guilty, which led to where they are now. So he's been going through this with Megan since the very beginning and he took the scene yesterday. So when this came out, I saw a lot of people still reacting to this like, oh my God, here she goes again. I'm like $240,000 on a. Just to have a peace of mind. Like it's never going to be enough for people. But here she is having to get on the stand and she will make. The stallion will be taking a stand today. She's supposed to anyway to speak on her own behalf.

[B]

Listen, why wouldn't that impact her? Like, I can completely see how that could impact somebody's mental and emotional well being. And I bet you if you anonymously spoke to a bunch of therapists and psychiatrists, they would tell you how often people come to them to discuss being attacked and slandered online. Not just, you know, people that are celebrities, just. Just everyday people. I'm sure that's the thing. I bet you counselors get that so much in school from kids.

[D]

I must have missed it. What is she, what is she on trial for now? Wait, what is she on stand on the standpoint for?

[A]

This is the lawsuit where she alleges that Tory Lanez for defamation.

[D]

So she's alleged Tori for defamation.

[A]

No, there's a blogger in question and she's saying that Tory Lanez paid this blogger to alleges that Tory Lanez paid this blogger to spit. To spread negative things about her online.

[D]

Gotcha. So she's suing the blogger?

[A]

Yeah, she's gone. She's coming for the blogger.

[D]

This, this is gonna be an interesting case. And the reason I say that is because there's so many people online that spew things that are not real. Fake. Ish.

[B]

Right.

[D]

And they make up stories. Now if, if somebody can say that this affects me because it affects all of everybody. Like Charlemagne says. Can you sue that person for. For defamation and for, you know, emotional distress and all that people have done.

[B]

That already and won. It's precedent for that already. Cardi B. Said president for that.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Promotional distress. I know. For.

[A]

For that was the thing with the other blogger.

[B]

I love this. My homegirl Bonang in South Africa said precedent. Well, that's South Africa, but still no precedent for it.

[D]

I love that because maybe that'll make people stop reporting fake news and start reporting lies. They keep getting sued because you can't afford it.

[A]

I think. I think the issue is that you got to figure out what people determine is fake and not fake. And a lot of people can't say.

[D]

Somebody did a sex tape and it didn't have no sex tape.

[A]

But I think it goes back to how people are taught what you can and can't do. Like, you know what I mean? Like. And also, too, I think it is. It gets to a point where some don't care. We don't know what the situation is yet in this case because it hasn't finished in court. So we don't know who's guilty of what in a courtroom. But, you know, in other circumstances, I think it just depends on the person and what they know and what they care to act like they don't know.

[B]

But that's why you should soon sue the hell out of.

[D]

Because everybody can sue somebody. Because I'm sure there's. There's somebody lies about somebody online every day. B. But it gets to the point where nothing happens to that person.

[B]

Sue them. And if you win, garnish all their wages. Don't feel bad about that.

[C]

Right.

[B]

Take their assets. Don't feel bad about that.

[F]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay. Don't feel bad about making somebody homeless.

[A]

We're gonna talk about homelessness, too, because Kevin Spacey had a real interesting conversation with Outlet. We're gonna talk about that in the next hours as we wrap up.

[D]

All right, everybody else, thank you. That's the latest with Lauren. Now, when we come back, we got front page news. And then after that, Dr. Joel A. Tubman will be joining us. He has a new book out. We're gonna talk to him about his new book, and he's gonna help Lauren with her life.

[B]

His book is really good. It's called the Fight to Find Yourself Moving from Uncertain to. To unstoppable.

[D]

All right, we'll get to that next. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[B]

You're checking out the Breakfast Club.

[D]

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page news now with Thursday Night Football. The Buffalo Bills take on the Houston Texans. All right, and salute to Shador Sanders. He's gonna make his first NFL start this Sunday versus the Raiders. What's up, Mimi?

[E]

Good morning, M.V. charlamagne, Lauren, how y' all doing this morning?

[B]

Peace, Mimi.

[A]

Doing great.

[E]

Good morning. All right, so we start this hour with two troubling stories going viral of two black women in two different states, both in obvious pain, both begging for help, and both turned away from hospitals just minutes before giving birth. Now, the first story is in Indiana. A young mother, Mercedes, well, says she gave birth in the backseat of a car just eight minutes after a hospital told her to go home. Her family posting video of her being wheeled out of a hospital, doubled over in pain.

[B]

What a matchup we got, y'.

[C]

All.

[B]

This is that classic HBCU vibe. Non stop action. The band is rocking and the crowd lit. Chance, echo, drum beat, everybody showing that school pride game like this. Yeah, it calls for an ice cold Coca Cola. Ah, crisp and refreshing. That's a game changer right there.

[C]

Mmm.

[B]

Yeah, that taste always hits the right note. Just like the band at halftime. And just like that, we're back at it. Passionate fans, school colors everywhere. And in ice cold Coca Cola, that's a winning combo. No matter the sport, no matter the yard.

[C]

Everybody knows fan work is thirsty work.

[B]

So grab a Coca Cola and keep that HBCU pride going.

[D]

A decade ago, I was on the trail of one of the country's most elusive serial killers. But it wasn't until 2023 when he was finally caught, the answers were there, hidden in plain sight. So why did it take so long to catch him? I'm Josh Zieman and this is Monster Hunting the Long Island Serial Killer. The investigation into the most notorious killer in New York since the Son of Sam. Available now listen for free on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcasts.

[A]

All I know is what I've been told and that to have truth is a whole lie.

[E]

For almost a decade, the murder of an 18 year old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved until a local homemaker, a journalist and a handful of girls came forward.

[F]

With a story I'm telling you.

[G]

We know Quincy killed her.

[E]

We know a story that law enforcement used to convict six people and that got the citizen investigator on national tv.

[B]

Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky.

[G]

Housewife helped give justice to Jessica Curran.

[E]

My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist producer, and I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find.

[B]

I did not know her and I did not kill her or rape or.

[G]

Burn or any of that other stuff.

[C]

That y' all said.

[F]

They literally made me say that I.

[A]

Took a match and struck and threw it on her.

[B]

They made me say that I poured.

[F]

Gas on her.

[E]

From Lava for Good. This is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame.

[C]

America, y' all better wake the hell up. Bad things happens to good people and small towns.

[E]

Listen to Graves county in the Bone Valley feed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts and to binge the entire season ad free. Subscribe to Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcasts.

[D]

In early 1988, federal agents raced to.

[A]

Track down the gang they suspect of.

[D]

Importing millions of dollars worth of heroin.

[A]

Into New York from Asia.

[C]

We had 30 agents ready to go with shotguns and rifles and you name it.

[E]

But what they find is not what they expected.

[B]

Basically, your stay at home moms were.

[C]

Picking up these large amounts of heroin.

[B]

They go, is this your daughter? I said, yes. They go, oh, you may not see.

[D]

Her for like 25 years.

[E]

Caught between a federal investigation and the violent gang who recruited them, the women must decide who they're willing to protect and who they dare to betray.

[B]

Once I saw the gun, I tried to take his hand and I saw.

[F]

The flash of light.

[A]

Listen to the Chinatown sting on the.

[D]

Iheartradio app, Apple Podcasts, or anywhere you get your podcasts.

[A]

Hi, I'm Danny Shapiro, host of the hit podcast Family Secrets.

[B]

We were in the car like a rolling stone came on. He said, there's a line in there about your mother. And I said, what?

[D]

What I would do if I didn't.

[B]

Feel like I was being accepted is.

[D]

Choose an identity that other people can't have.

[A]

I knew something had happened to me in the middle of the night, but I couldn't hold on to what had happened. These are just a few of the.

[C]

Moving and important stories I'll be holding.

[A]

Space for on my upcoming 13th season of Family Secrets.

[C]

Whether you've been on this journey with.

[A]

Me from season one or just joining the Family Secrets family, we're so happy to have you with us.

[C]

I'll dive deep into the incredible power.

[A]

Of secrets, the ones that shape our identities, test our relationships, and ultimately reveal who we truly are.

[E]

Listen to Family secrets on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. After staff told her she wasn't far enough along because she was only 3cm dilated. Now, minutes later, Mercedes told her husband she had to push. He was driving with one hand and found himself delivering the baby with the other. Let's listen to mom and dad.

[A]

I was in excruciating pain. She seen me in pain and agony and I guess she still perceives me to not be in labor.

[C]

It's totally God's crazy. I was scared. I didn't know what to do. I don't have any medical license or anything to deliver a baby.

[E]

Well, 911 guided them to a second hospital where several doctors and nurses were waiting outside to help. Mercedes is recovering now, but says she feels violated and dismissed. And France Franciscan Health. They call the video deeply troubling and says it does not reflect their values. They've launched a full investigation and say they'll take action based on what they find. And now to Texas, where a similar story is also taking shape in Dallas. Kerry Jones is shown in a viral video doubled over in a wheelchair, screaming in pain while nurses. While a nurse calmly continues intake questions, her mother says that the hospital made her wait more than 30 minutes after she gave and then she gave birth 12 minutes later. Her mother said she had called the hospital ahead to warn that they were coming. But when they arrived, the nurses refused to take her to a delivery room until paperwork was was finished, even though she could barely sit up. Dallas Regional Medical Center. They haven't commented on specifics, but say they are reviewing the incident and that the safety, dignity and well being of every patient is their top priority. And these cases, they're drawing attention because they highlight a broader reality. In the United States, black women experience the highest maternal mortality rate in the country, roughly 50 deaths per 100,000 births. That's more than twice the national average.

[B]

Yeah, man. And this is why when black and brown women have. We celebrate the way we do. Because exactly what you just said, Mimi. The black maternal death rate is high. And this is why doulas are also important. Because you need somebody advocating for you in those hospitals because it damn sure can't be your husband. Because ain't no way in hell I knock over all this stuff if y' all don't hurry up and get to my wife.

[D]

You know the crazy thing when. When we delivered our last baby, Peyton, Gia went to the hospital and the hospital said, no, you're not ready yet. Go home. And Gia was like, no, I'm not going home. I had five other kids.

[B]

Yeah, exactly.

[D]

She know I know what my body Is you call my gynecologist. I'm not leaving.

[B]

And.

[D]

And forced them to put her in the room, and we had the baby a couple hours later.

[B]

That's why doulas are important. Cause you need somebody advocating for you in the hospital like that. Cause, you know, as men, some of us can be cool, calm, and collected. But when you see your wife in that type of pain, when she's about to give birth and everybody just dragging their feet, no, you gonna wild out.

[A]

Do you suggest a doula from the cause? Now, hospitals have, like, a doula, like, departments that, like, they'll assign doulas to.

[D]

You, but somebody you feel comfortable, and.

[A]

Then you can bring your. You get your own. You suggest one from inside the hospital or outside.

[B]

I don't know. I never knew about the hospital. We've always had our own. Salute to lat is glow maven. You know, she helped my wife deliver our. Our third and fourth child.

[D]

Yeah, no, we. I mean, I would say somebody that you're comfortable with. Like, my wife's gynecologist. Been with us for four kids, four delivery. So she knows gear, she knows me, she knows the kids, and she knows when Gia says she ready to pop.

[B]

Is she a doula? I don't know. I mean, I don't know.

[C]

She's not a doula.

[D]

She got gynecologist, but, you know, she's delivered.

[A]

She'll advocate for.

[B]

Right, right.

[D]

She knows.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, I saw that video. I sent it to Mimi. I'm like, can we talk about this? Because this is scary. I saw. I don't understand how that happens.

[B]

I. I don't understand how another woman can sit there and just type all slow while she's watching this woman go through all of this pain. Like, shouldn't it be a sense of urgency from even another woman on my timeline?

[D]

It's probably robotic. It's probably. Okay, here's another pregnant woman. Let me fill out the paperwork. And used to it. That's what that problem is.

[A]

Like, I saw the woman's face, and I felt so bad, I sent it to Mimi. Like, is there something we can do? Like, I just felt bad for her, like, in that moment. And I'm watching it on my timeline.

[E]

Yeah. And that one that. The one that you're talking about, Lauren, happened after the one in Dallas happened, because the one in Dallas had been circulating on social media, and people have been sending me that in my inbox. Like, you know, can we talk about this? Because clearly, it is it. People feel like this is happening these are just two stories that we know of. What about the stories that we don't know?

[B]

That's right. That's right.

[A]

So.

[E]

And new information this morning as we move on, new information on the Chicago mother at the center of that viral attack that has stunned people across the country. The mom seen on video being beaten while trying to shield her children. She is now warning of the public of fake GoFundMe pages using her name. She says several unauthorized fundraisers started circulating within hours of that video going viral. Some have reportedly collected more than $200,000 without her permission. In a Facebook post, she is pleading with supporters to be careful writing, please go get your funds back. I'll be those ago fund mes are fake and please report them. She says she has one legitimate fundraisers fundraiser and she is urging people to double check before they donate. I looked this morning and her legitimate FundRaiser has about $7,000 so far. Now Hatter says the violence seen on camera that we all saw, it wasn't all of a sudden, it was months. After harassment, bullying, vandalism, and even attempts at setting fires near her home by neighborhood youth, she says she's been asking for help for a while now. After Monday's attack, the community stepped in quickly. I know you guys spoke about this yesterday. Where local leaders, they, they helped, they secured a new place for her to live. Clothing holiday donations are coming in. The housing authority is also assisting with a new place to live. A relative say that she is expected to move into a new place today. But along with that support, two very different reactions from parents connected to the kids in those videos are circulating. In one clip, a parent of a student can believe to be involved is heard saying to her child, the whole city of Chicago is looking for you. And a different parent posting a long series of comments defending her daughter, downplaying the attack, calling her child a good kid and saying she was peer pressured. Her tone frustrated many online who says it shows a lack of accountability. Let's listen to some of the community reactions.

[A]

What action needs to be taken is the parents need to be held accountable.

[B]

Charges should be pressed, charges, colleges should.

[A]

Be pressed and these kids should be expelled for school.

[H]

We need more help out here.

[A]

Trump sending troops and stuff out here for that. Come send troops out here for these kids.

[H]

We need these kids. Open up more programs for our kids.

[B]

Now. She's right. They need, do need to have more programs for the kids. But don't say things like trump, send the troops for our kids, okay? Because Trump will be like, say less. I saw a Lot of people meet me saying that it starts in the home. And that would be a good discussion for the radio because I think when people say things like that that, you know, they, they. They discount the environment these kids live in. Like, peer pressure is a real thing. And like, sometimes discreets have. Have more influence and impact than what's going on at. At the house, of course.

[E]

Chicago police say no arrests have been made. Detectives, they are reviewing multiple videos, interviewing witnesses. And the Chicago public School, the district, they released a statement. It reads, in part, they are committed to building a physically and emotionally safe teaching and learning environment in every. Every school. It went on to say that they are horrified by the attack on this family and they are working with the city departments and agencies to provide support for the victims.

[B]

How has there not been no arrest? There's a whole video in broad bunch of videos and they know where the.

[D]

Kids go to school. That's crazy.

[E]

Yeah, no arrest yet. But how.

[A]

What.

[E]

How do you handle it? A lot of these kids are. I know one of them were in eighth grade. So, you know, so that's. That's, you know, 13, 14 years old. I don't know, you know, what that looks like, what they're going to do. But that one parent said that the kids should be expelled because it happened on school grounds. And so that is one action that the district can definitely take, you know. All right, y'.

[A]

All.

[E]

Well, that is your front page news. I'm Mimi Brown. Follow me at Mimi Brown tv. For more stories, follow the Black Information Network, Download the free iHeartRadio app, and visit bin news dot com.

[B]

Thank you, Mimi.

[D]

Thank you, Mimi. Now when we come back, we have Dr. Joelle Tubman. He has a new book out called the Fight to Find Yourself Moving from Uncertain to Unstoppable? And we're gonna dive into Lauren LaRose's life a little bit.

[A]

I fight to find myself.

[D]

Okay, all right, we'll get into that next. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. We got a special guest in the building.

[B]

We told you we were gonna have him back.

[D]

That's right. Dr. Joelton.

[B]

Welcome back, brother Man.

[C]

Thank you for having us back. I didn't get to talk to you last time.

[B]

No, I wasn't here.

[D]

I was out of town. How you doing, brother?

[C]

Great. It's an honor to meet you, brother.

[B]

New book, the Fight to Find Yourself Moving from Uncertain to Unstoppable is out now.

[C]

Yes, sir.

[B]

I want to ask you, Dr. Joe, what was the, like that real breaking point that made you realize you weren't living as your authentic self.

[C]

Several moments. I don't think I can categorize it to 1. I think it was a breakdown for me, a chain of events, a lot of success, and the success couldn't solve the pain. And so once all the breakdowns started to accumulate, I started realizing this stuff is just a band aid. Every accolade, every award, every stage, every opportunity could not solve the inner pain. And so having a good community, of course, Jay, of course other brothers and other ministers that knew that I was hurting started looking into the inside, saying, hey, man, pull yourself back. We need to talk to you. My mentor who became a pastor, he began to talking to me. He told me to stop speaking. So for, I think, nine months to a year, I didn't travel, I didn't go anywhere. He made me stay home and minister at the house so he could watch over me, check over me. But the pain had gotten pretty bad. Pretty bad. I think I put a gun to my head twice during that process, trying to figure out how to maneuver through. But then once I found a pretty good therapist, things started changing and I started journaling, started documenting, and seeing things change for myself.

[A]

You talk about in the opening of the book going through the motions of things and how it just feels so empty. Yeah, but you also have such a big platform, and you're speaking places. You can fall back into the motions easily, even at certain points in your life. How do you kind of stop yourself from falling back into the motion of things? Because. Because you know, you're entertaining at the same time, too.

[C]

It's a great question. Let's do it like this. When the anointing comes on you to speak, comes on you for the task, for the moment. So the anointing comes on you to do what you need to do. You study yourself, how to prepare. You do what you need to do. You pray. That's God doing his thing through you. When that's over, it's over and you can walk off the stage and feel like you absolutely fail. Even though people were absolutely blessed. You can walk off the stage, get a phone call that just rips everything away. After all those people have given their lives to Christ. And that's what I'm talking about. That. That moment. You're anointed for that moment. And then when you come off, you don't have the badge to live. And that's what I was experiencing. So it was a massive fall off. And I got tired of that, real tired of it.

[D]

What changed? What gave you the feeling of wanting to live again.

[C]

I lost my father and my son back to back. Both of those relationships were difficult to have. My son, when I was 16 years old, he came to live with me his sophomore year. And then my father. We had a good relationship, but it wasn't like what you want a father and son to have. I respected him very much so. And he wasn't an absentee. We just didn't have a relationship. And so that thing grew, grew, grew and grew. So in the process, I built all these walls that protected me emotionally. And the last two weeks of my dad's life, I spent with him in the hospital. And I got to know him like I never knew him before. I held his hand, I washed him, I shaved him, I fed him, scratched his back. It was a different feeling for me that unleashed this avalanche of emotions that I had never felt before. And I needed to figure out how to deal with them. For a little bit, I felt like it was great. And then for a second, I was like, God, how could you do this? How could you wait till the end? And I'm this old to give me the feeling of being a son? I'm already a man, and I've already mastered the way I do life, you know? And so it may not be perfect, but it's mine. And when that happened, those two deaths broke down everything I knew. It broke down my own blueprint, and I had to come up with a new one.

[B]

So you lost yourself because of what you lost.

[C]

100 man.

[D]

When people hear you, you at your lowest, and you're feeling like taking your life. Most people will say that is. Is the devil working? And it's. It's not anything but the devil trying to get you to take your life. Do you agree with that?

[C]

I don't know if I agree with it or not. I'm gonna be honest with you. I know that Satan comes to kill, steal and destroy. I don't think God does that. But what I will say is that there are some things that happen to us internally, chemically that we are born with or born without that only scientists can answer. I don't think the scientist is God. Not saying that, but I don't think that's a question that you could just easily answer from a five or six minute conversation. I think it involves a lot of study, a lot of interpretation, and the opportunity to really converse with people that have the problem. Not people are just sitting around the table discussing that.

[D]

Because when most people feel like they want to take their life, it's a lot of times they feel worthless, right? They feel like that they don't have an answer.

[F]

They'd rather.

[D]

They feel like life would be better without them 100% than with them in it. And it's learning that that complete opposite. Did you have that feeling?

[C]

100%? 100%. I felt it, but because I had understood the word of God and had enough left in the table, I had enough to kind of come back and forth and talk to myself. When I was younger, I didn't. I just took the pills and. But I didn't die when I got older and I pulled that trigger. I pulled that trigger to. To die, but I didn't. I felt that way. But I will say I was going back and forth, dialoguing in my head. Now this is something I want to say straight up. Most pastors, most people in church are going to straight up tell, you know, you're going to hell, you know, Absolutely. And that is the devil's work. Again, I think it's unprofessional and it's a lack of empathy and compassion to have a conversation with the person to find out why they felt that way. Why do you feel that way? I think that's a part of the conversation. I understand the eternal security and eternal damnation. We got that, the religious perspective, the walk with God. But somebody still needs to get in your walk, get in your shoes with the word of God and help you walk through why you feel that way. I think that's the missing ingredient. Great question, great debate, but the missing piece of the question and the conversation is the person. Why do you feel that way?

[D]

See, because I've been there before and I write it in my book of me being. Feeling worthless, right? Me doing things, making me feel like an embarrassment to my family. 100 and me feeling like not being here would be better for my family. Took a lot of praying, a lot of talking, a lot of discussion. When somebody ever tells me that they're thinking about it, I jump to it immediately, right? And the reason I jump to it and jump to have a conversation. I have conversations with so many people on line. But the reason I jumped to it is because another thing that also gives me great fear is sometimes people feel like, I gotta show you I would do it. You know, I mean, like, I'm thinking about it, and a lot of times we write that person off, like, yo, just. Just go sleep. Yo, just go take a shot.

[B]

Just.

[D]

Just go talk to somebody. And I feel like the worst thing you can do to somebody in that position is kind of sign them off 100%. Because they almost feel like, I have to show you I was gonna do it.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

And once I have. Once I show you, there is no oops. There is no.

[C]

You don't fix that. Yeah.

[D]

Can't fix that.

[C]

Yeah. That's why I said the person. The person matters. I love the theological conversation, the. The church conversation. It's great to have. But put the. Put the collar down and talk to the person, and then we'll navigate there. Why do you feel that way? What caused you to get that way? That's more important right now, you know, And I love what you said about it, because some people say, I'm just going to do it, do it. And if you. And if. And if they do it, we don't get an opportunity to come back.

[A]

You also talk about, too, in the book, just how your wife has coached you through so many different moments in your fight for the partners out there who are like, everybody's finding themselves. But I think when I hear how you speak about her, you. There's certain parts and certain things you couldn't have done without her.

[C]

Oh, God.

[A]

But it has to be heavy on her as well. Yeah. How is she balancing her own fight with helping you do your fight?

[C]

It's. Sometimes it's unfair. It's unfair because she had to stop fighting for herself to help me fight. But I think that's the power of love. And I think we evolve in time. I think. I don't think that Marriage is a 50, 50. Sometimes it's going to be 80, 20. Sometimes it's going to be 10, 100. Sometimes it's going to be 70, 30. I think love is love. And whatever number adds up, that's based off of the try, the push between the two people. And there's always going to be one that's weak, and there's always going to be one that's strong. And so to each couple, I would say that the journey to becoming who you are together will be based off of the two of you remaining honest and open. That I can carry you today.

[A]

Right.

[C]

I may not be able to carry you tomorrow. I can carry you today.

[D]

People don't talk about a lot about how important a good partner is.

[F]

Right.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Because when I'm. When I've been at my lowest many times, if it wasn't for my partner, I don't think I would be able to come out of it the way that I did.

[B]

I'm happy to be here for you.

[D]

This guy's crazy. This guy's Crazy, you know?

[B]

You know what's so crazy about this world?

[D]

I see him yesterday in the street, right? Just happened to see him in the street. I'm with my wife and my daughter. He's with his wife. He walks up to me. He start going.

[B]

Start blowing kisses at me.

[C]

How'd your wife handle that?

[D]

My wife didn't see. His wife seen it. And his wife's, like, really, like, left with this clown. Like, what's wrong with you?

[B]

That's not what she said. You just blow kisses at him. That's what she said.

[A]

Okay, but.

[D]

But talk about the importance of one.

[B]

More part of that. His wife goes, did somebody just blow kisses at you? I just might blow kisses. And he goes, that was Charlemagne.

[C]

Oh, my God. I think that's beautiful that your spouses can laugh at that.

[B]

That they can.

[D]

I don't know how long it took them to laugh.

[B]

Now.

[A]

It's funny.

[D]

At first, I don't think they thought.

[B]

It was that funny.

[D]

But talk about the importance of a good partner and a good spouse when you're going through those things because, you know, Charlamagne and myself. Talk about when you're really faithful in your marriage and life.

[A]

Life.

[D]

It opens up a whole nother. Another life, another category, another.

[C]

A whole nother ground of favor.

[D]

Absolutely.

[C]

That comes upon your life.

[B]

That's the word.

[C]

Yeah. It's a whole nother round of favor. Because sometimes you feel like yours ain't worth nothing and we're living off the other. Having a good spouse is the opposite of having a bad one. Okay. And I think a lot of the world is experiencing bad relationships, but you hear so much about what it takes to be in a good one. To be in a good one means you survive a lot of bad things. I don't know anybody that's been in a great relationship that doesn't have stories of wounds and cuts and memories where things have gone bad. That's what makes it good, that you can go through the storms and go through the rain and still remain. And there'll be times where you feel like walking away. There'll be times when you feel like. Like departing. You take yours, I take mine, or you just take it all and I bounce. But the love, the commitment, the responsibility to become the one that you want to be drives everything. My.

[B]

My.

[C]

My wife. Her name is Latasha. She's been with me. I didn't have anything. Well, that's not true. I did have something. My credit was bad. That's what was bad. Yeah, I had things, but my Credit was bad, and I was able to get things without the credit. But she looked at the credit and said, yo, your credit is terrible. I can fix it for you. I said, what? She said, I can fix it for you. So she fixed my credit, credit went up, and she's like, yo, I can handle the money. And that was different for me because, I don't know, I've never been socialized into manhood where the woman handled the money, but she can handle the money. So I let our relationship be our relationship. At first, I was a little bit embarrassed. I had this myth of manhood that if she's doing this and she's doing, it's going to make me look stupid. But I realized my marriage is my marriage. It is not yours, and it is not yours. And it's not until I matured as a man that I understand that what goes on in my house is my house. I don't care what's happening in your house. So your spouse has to have the ability to endure with the worst of you and the best of you and likewise. And just make sure that you guys are on the same page with raising children. All right? Make sure you're on the same page with raising children so that you can recreate something beautiful and not create something that's going to be a monster.

[A]

But what's the steps of that for people? Like, if you both don't have children, or even if one person does have children, sometimes you don't know how a person is until they're in a situation. Even if you have conversations private, like, what are the real steps to know?

[C]

I don't think that there is a cookie cutter step, because we're all different. I think when we spend time with each other, what are you actually doing? If you're just having sex, smoking and drinking and without having a real conversation about who you are, where you come from, what do you like? What don't you like? I think all those things need to be talked about first. What makes you happy? What makes you sad? When you get angry, do you throw things? Do you cuss? Do you go off? Do you belittle me? Can you encourage me when you don't like me? Can you still show up for me when you want to leave me? If we have to go to a function, will you embarrass me even though you're upset with me? How do you want to be appreciated? How do you want me to leave you alone? How do we argue? What are our parameters for arguments? Arguing, ours was, listen, if you leave you come back, don't stay gone and don't go to nobody else's house to spend the night. If you don't want to talk to me, go in the other room. But at some point in time, there must be a resolution. I think all those things matter because then we have people that get married because the sex is great. We get married because we got money. And we. And the kids are going to be pretty because we both look good. But we've done none of the other work to discover what we like. If you're Catholic and I'm Protestant, if you're Catholic, do you want the kids to be all of that little bitty stuff that we avoid because we're attracted? Those things need to be discussed. Then let's go to counseling. Let's go to counseling and see what happens. If we're Christian, let's also go visit the Christian counselors. It doesn't have to be the pastor. What is it that they're saying about our relationship and our walk with God? Because I don't want to get in our relationship, in our marriage and find out. You don't. You don't believe the way I believe. Why am I just not finding that out? All of those little things need to be discussed before we ever even talk about kids. Then we start talking about it. How are we going to raise our children? How many children do you want? What kind of school do you want them to go to? Do you believe in corporal punishment? I think that's the right word. Or beating your kids, or soft parenting, whatever the correct words are. I think all those things matter before we do it. But we're backwards. We have sex first, we like the feeling first. Then we get together, then we stay together and either end up with common law marriage or we go ahead and get married because we're already pregnant. And then we wrestle with all the other stuff later. Just flip the script. We know what to do. Just reverse the order. Too late for you to flip the script, huh?

[A]

No. I don't know how my script been going. We are very intentional about a lot of the things.

[C]

Intentionality. There we are.

[A]

This is probably the first time ever. I mean, I'm 33, so I'm pretty young. But this is the first time that I feel like my intention is actually like matched. And even when it's not the best thing, like I'm not the best person and vice versa, it's still like a no. We going. We sit down, we this. We about to talk about this. And I've never in Certain conversations I've never had. Like we had a financial conversation the other day and I was like, no one has ever.

[C]

That's the first time you had.

[A]

Had it ever? Yeah, that was.

[D]

Their relationship is new.

[A]

It's very new. But. So it's been some months. But we've been dating for longer than that. But we've been dating for about a year. But officially, that's not new. Yes, it is.

[D]

Yes, it is.

[B]

You need to be honest with the fact. Be honest. Be honest with the.

[C]

That is not new. I wish I had a computer so I could do you like you're doing me.

[A]

No, take. Listen, the only reason why, first of all.

[B]

And she just thought so one of them fell off, she picked up another.

[A]

No, that's not true.

[B]

You gotta tell the truth to the path alone.

[A]

No, that's not. He's framing this completely wrong. Okay? So the only reason why I say it's new is because I think I've had to learn. I've had to learn how to be very different in this stage in my life. Not even relationship, just because of like career and a lot of things. So I took a lot more time with certain things this time around.

[C]

Such as sex.

[A]

Give me three things. Sexual sex.

[C]

Okay. What'd you do different about it?

[A]

We just. It took some more time before it happened, which is very different for me. We also. We also public, like being in public with each other. I took time before I did that.

[D]

It's still not all of it.

[B]

All in public, sneaky videos.

[A]

We're still taking our time.

[F]

Only because.

[C]

You've been with this guy one year.

[A]

Yeah, we've been dating for a year.

[C]

That's a long time.

[B]

It is.

[A]

It's.

[C]

Yeah. 365 days.

[A]

That's still very new, though.

[C]

Have you slept with him within 365 days? Yes. Okay, you have. You have had sex with this man multiple times.

[A]

Huh?

[C]

Look at your smile. What I'm saying is this exactly what you just said. You've slept with this man. You have a smile on your face. You are. You're enjoying that. You have slept with this man multiple times. You should be that enthusiastic about everything else.

[A]

But I'm saying this is the first time that I am. Like in. In other situations, there have been things that I've been.

[C]

When did you find out about his credit?

[A]

First month. Oh, first month of us being in a relationship, not the first month of us dating. So one.

[C]

What's the difference?

[A]

Because when we were dating, it was casual stuff. So it was like dinner. It was phone conversations. It wasn't. You know.

[C]

Did y' all talk about your faith?

[A]

Yes.

[C]

When?

[A]

That was probably, like, one of our first in person conversations.

[C]

So how long did it take from phone to in person?

[A]

What you mean?

[C]

You did phone first, then you went into in person?

[A]

We did in person first because this is someone that I already knew. Like, we went to college together for a bit, so we did in person first and then the phone kind of.

[C]

You guys were friends?

[A]

Yeah, we were cool before that.

[C]

Did y' all sleep together when y' all was cool?

[A]

No.

[C]

No. Desire?

[A]

No. No. There was desire, but it didn't happen. And that's what I'm saying. I took the desire.

[C]

This is a long conversation.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, it. There was definitely desire.

[C]

Yeah. So you wanted this guy already? Did he want you already?

[A]

I don't think so.

[C]

What made you. Did he ask you out or did you ask him out?

[A]

We got together as friends. Just. He was like, you know, you're in Jersey. We'd love to take you out to happy hour, celebrate everything you got going on. It wasn't even.

[C]

So how did it turn?

[A]

Turn?

[C]

Who initiated the turn?

[B]

Me.

[A]

I initiated the turn.

[C]

Aggressive.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Especially on that Casamigo. I'm sure that's. She's not. She's leaving out a lot of shots.

[C]

There's a lot being left out.

[A]

It wasn't even about. No, it wasn't me being aggressive on Casamigos. It was when we said our first time in person, that happy hour conversation. I was sitting there and I'm like, man, this man is amazing. Like, I would love to get to know more about him. Not just as my friend.

[C]

Now, let me ask you, when you said that, where were you psychologically, emotionally? Did you know yourself before you made that decision?

[A]

No, I don't think I fully know myself now.

[C]

Yeah. How much of yourself do you know? What do you know about yourself? Where are you?

[A]

I know a lot about myself, but I don't think that I'm fully through, like, my fight. Like, how you're.

[C]

So you're still fighting 100%.

[A]

I didn't even begin the fight, honestly, probably until this year, because I didn't know that it was a fight to be had.

[C]

I just figured that's so powerful because I just told him that. That sometimes when you're in a relationship, this is not your relationship.

[A]

Go ahead. I've been doing this.

[C]

Yeah. I think sometimes when you're in a relationship, when you get healed, when you actually find you, it opens up your eyes so much that you start looking at all of your choices and all of your decisions, and you can see the unhealthy picks, the unhealthy partners, the unhealthy conversations now. And it's hard to speak to sick people. And I'm not pointing at anybody specific. It's hard to have a conversation with sick people because you yourself didn't know you were sick. And now that you realize that, hey, I'm better, but I created this sickness or I played a part in the sickness, that becomes difficult, which is what I know we probably talk about with the holidays. When you're going into the holidays, should I be trying to discover myself right now? And that's twofold. It's juxtaposition. If you have a safe place, yes. If it's not safe, no. Because those conversations will turn into wars, and it'll create a horrible holiday experience. But if you have a safe place and there is enough health in the room, room, mom, uncle, sister, therapist, somewhere, there has to be some safety for you to retreat and then not necessarily isolation, but some alone time for you to actually process and come out and talk. You can move methodically through it, but if you are healed, you're whole, and you are connected to someone that is sick, it's going to be a difficult path. How then? My question to you, how do you have a healthy conversation with an unhealthy person.

[A]

Right now? I just be doing it.

[C]

You just be doing it?

[A]

I think a lot of. Yeah. I mean, because I'm thinking about people in my life that I love, that I know they're not having. They don't even. They're not.

[B]

It's okay to say, I don't know, Lauren.

[A]

No, I'm telling the truth. Like, I'm literally, every day, I'm engaging with people that I know are not. Not in the best spaces, like, in their fight, you know, But I don't have a choice because these are people I love. Like, it's my mother. It's my, you know, like, so you. You literally just get through it. You set boundaries for. For certain conversations, but you. I'm literally just doing it some days because I don't have a choice. Like, what. What do you do in a situation like that?

[C]

It's very difficult. It's going to be a war, and you have to be prepared. And here's. And this is what I'm saying to you. Once you go through your journey, and you're going through your journey right now, I've gone through mine. Now I'm evolving all Right. Because like you said, you don't just get there and stop. Not the same man you were at 35 or 45, 55. You're going to change, you're going to evolve. But coming into self, coming into knowledge of self, knowing who I am, knowing that I know why I get upset about certain things. I know why certain things trigger me. I know when I need to remove myself. I know when I need to go in stronger. Because I'm aware of me now. Because I'm aware of me, it helps. I help myself in the unhealthy conversation. I don't make it more unhealthy. I don't make it more toxic. Because at one point I was. I would keep pushing and keep pushing and keep pushing because I'm trying to get you to understand what I'm saying. But what I realized, you're never going to understand. You don't have the capacity. So what I've learned now is that now that I fought to find me, there's no need for me to fight you because you don't know you.

[E]

You.

[C]

I need to retreat and let you be you and come back on another time to have a conversation.

[A]

Do you do that differently in different situations? Because like for instance, with my dad, I do that all the time, but with other people I go all the way. Like that's not happening. Like. So do you feel like you're more in your fight you further along with certain people in certain situations? Okay, so that's different.

[C]

Yeah, because they're different people, different relationships, different levels of covenant. Yeah, definitely. Definitely.

[D]

Now close us on a prayer. That's how we gonna end it.

[C]

Father, we thank you for this amazing opportunity to be with my brothers and my sister. We ask that you bless her as she continues to fight to find herself and move in this industry. That she is more than enough and she's capable of taking it to the next dimension. We thank you for both of our brothers who have been staples in this industry for a long time, continue to allow their minds to evolve. Bless their families, bless their children. Everyone is connected to them, God, as they continue to soar in their fields. Father, we thank you for the day. We thank you for another opportun opportunity to praise your name. We ask that you seal it. We thank you for your glory and your divine grace in Jesus name, Amen.

[B]

Amen.

[C]

Thank y', all, man. You gotta do it one more time, man.

[D]

It's the Breakfast Club.

[B]

Good morning.

[D]

You good?

[A]

Lord, I'm great.

[B]

Tell them call stuff that call come.

[A]

I've already had conversation. I never let anything that happens on air happen on air first before anybody important in my life hears it. Except for my dad. I love my dad, but it's just like we. That we don't talk any other time. So why would I call you now?

[F]

Oh, man.

[D]

All right, well, let's get to the latest with Lauren.

[F]

Lauren becoming a straight f. She gets.

[B]

Him from somebody that knows somebody some. She gets the details.

[A]

I'm the home girl that knows a little bit about everything.

[B]

She be having the latest on.

[C]

The Latest with Lauren LaRosa.

[B]

Sometimes you have facts, sometimes you have details. Sometimes you have a little bit of everything. What was the mesa this club? Talk to me.

[A]

All right, guys, so before we get to the Kevin Spacey story that I know I teased last hour, let's talk a little bit about Portia Williams again. Now, I told you guys that yesterday I received a statement, and the statement laid out that fact that Porsche was alleging that someone had, you know, was coming for her. And that's how this whole thing started. We now know that this whole thing was about cell phone volume. So there is body cam that was released by the Atlanta Police Department. And you have Portia Williams explaining her side of why there was an incident on a flight where the FBI now has her on their radar. And then you have the woman, she got into the incident when explaining as well, let's take a listen to Portia explaining. The lady who was sitting next to.

[F]

Me, I was on my phone and.

[A]

The volume was up on the phone. And she turned to me out of nowhere and she said, so you're gonna make me listen to that the whole flight? And I said, well, do you want to? She said, no.

[B]

So you guys were in Las Vegas when that happened?

[A]

Yes.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

The plane was on the ground? Yes.

[A]

I said, what was a nicer way to say that? And she said, you don't tell from that point on. She said, who the do you think you are? And so I said, I said, oh, oh, no, no, no. I said, y' all need to get her out of here. Please get her away from me. She tried to take her phone record, and she drops her phone on the floor. She's like, you hit me.

[F]

Oh, my God, you hit me.

[E]

You just hit me in my face.

[A]

Oh, my God. I'm pressing charges. I want to you to be in jail. So the. So then the steward comes over, and then the steward says to her, says to me, because I say, you know, get your ugly ass out of here, cuz then I'm Upset. So then they end up making her move to the next chair with the guy, but she was irate, so they were trying to hold her.

[B]

So you're saying you're telling me there was nothing physical? No, it was just verbal.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Now, the police officer from Lena PD is asking Portia if there was nothing physical and only verbal because the woman who Portia Williams got into it is alleging that Portia hit her.

[B]

Her.

[A]

Now, let's take a listen to this woman who says she is fearing for her life.

[B]

Now, so I heard about the incident.

[C]

That happened, but I haven't heard your.

[B]

Side of the story. Why didn't we hear my side of.

[E]

The story first, sir?

[B]

Well, I had another officer.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[B]

Well, spoke to you.

[C]

But I just want to hear, first.

[B]

Of all, where did the incident happen?

[C]

I was sitting in my seat.

[F]

Where?

[E]

In Delta airlines, seat number 3A, I B, I believe.

[B]

Believe this happened in Las Vegas? Yes, sir. While the plane was still boarding? No, the plane was in the air.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay, before I say anything, I want.

[E]

To know, is my information going to be given to the woman who assaulted me?

[A]

No, ma'. Am.

[E]

Because I'm afraid for my life.

[A]

No, ma'. Am. Okay.

[B]

Capital P, ain't touch. Capital P, ain't touch that woman. Come on, cut it out. But I will say this. We all need headphones on the plane, okay? That's my wife's pet peeve. She cannot stand when somebody got their phone playing, listening to, watching a video or watching something on their laptop. Like, she does not like that. And she's absolutely right, by the way. I have a tendency to do that, too. But sometimes I'd be watching something on the plane. It's like, with no headphones. We all need headphones on the plane.

[D]

But. But it's sometimes it's the way you talk to people, right? Hey, excuse me. Can you. Can you turn it down a little bit? I'm trying to sleep. Okay, no problem. But when you start talking to me like you my mother, like I'm your child now, I'm gonna get disrespectful, too.

[B]

I think the plane should actually announce that. Like, you know how the plane announces all of the things that you. You, I guess, can't do on the flight? Like, they should say that. They should be like, hey, make sure you got your headphones. Don't play your phones loud. They should do that.

[A]

They normally depend on where you are. And your purser should say that.

[D]

Yeah, they definitely do that.

[A]

Yeah. So I did ask the FBI if. Now, this takes this off of their radar. Like, you know where we are right now, basically, because people are waiting to see if will there be charges? Will they're not like, what's going to happen. The FBI said they can't confirm anything to me, but I do know that there's supposed to be some new news in this situation today. So. So we'll be back with that. But it just seems like it was just an argument back and forth. Both of them were able to get to where they were going and now there's claims on, on both sides. So we'll see what happens. In other news. So Kevin Spacey, Kevin Spacey did an interview with the Telegraph and in this interview he is in Cyprus and he is doing a live show. It's like a one night only type of show where he's like singing and telling stories and, and you guys remember back in 2022, there were. Back in.

[F]

Yes, don't worry about it.

[B]

Don't answer that question. Yeah. Important to the story.

[A]

Yeah. So basically, I know guys, can't say.

[D]

That you cannot suck the. No. That you cannot say that you can't put the two together on air. We're like, what is wrong with y'?

[A]

All?

[F]

He did it. I said, don't say you can't do.

[B]

It because I heard you was a professional.

[D]

What are you talking about? Continue on.

[A]

Yeah, so at the time of all the allegations, Kevin, Kevin Spacey was starring a House of Cards. That was like a huge deal for him. He was reportedly making I think like $500,000 an episode at the time. And then all these allegations hit and he lost everything. He was taken off everything. A lot of people say that he was one of the people that Cancel Culture actually worked on. So in this interview he's having a conversation about where he is now and, and he's there, he's doing this one night only show and people. And he's saying he knows people are going to look at this like, is this his, like fight to try and return again? And he says, you know, he hasn't been in the best space financially. He says he's living in hotels, living in Airbnbs and he's just going where the work is currently. They asked him, you know, at one point because he did lose all of his homes. Also they asked him if he's considered bankruptcy and he says it was discussed, but it never got to that point. And again, he was acquitted on all charges of sexual assault. But you know, that didn't stop everything.

[F]

From being taken from under $500,000 an.

[A]

Episode at one point reportedly. Yeah. For House of Cards. Yep. And he says that all of his stuff right now is still in storage because he's just kind of gone have.

[F]

Anywhere to put it.

[A]

Yeah, he just going as things are.

[D]

What do you spend his money on? Lawyers, attorneys and all that other stuff. Because that's a, that's a lot of money. He's Kevin Spacey. He's did a lot of movies.

[F]

Not just House the Car.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, and also what's the problem with him trying to make a comeback if he was found, if he was acquitted on all charges?

[A]

I don't think that there's a problem. I think he was more so having trying to get ahead of people saying he has no money and this is why he's over here during this random one night only show and he's like, it's not even that. I'm just in a space where he says that he's leaning back into things that he actually likes to do, which is singing and being able to tell stories he wants to tell.

[D]

He got to make it look.

[A]

Yeah, but he did also too. In this article, he reflects a lot on. Even though he was acquitted of certain things, he said that he had to do a lot of self reflection about why he was so easily able to fit into the narrative of the bad guy. He said that it made him really sit down and have a conversation about some of the decisions he made and not speaking out sooner for himself.

[B]

Wasn't there a story about him getting fellatio behind a tree? Maybe I'm making this up. I feel like I've read that before for.

[A]

I don't know, I don't, I don't know. But that's how I'll find out.

[F]

That's sad.

[D]

If he was found not guilty, acquitted of all charges, he had to spend all that money. He still canceled. He still can't do movies, he still can't do. Like that is crazy that the fact that he's dead ass broke and he was found not guilty and he's done some crazy. Like he's done like House of Cards, Usual Suspects, LA Confidential, so many different.

[B]

Allegations that they were like, like wild.

[D]

But if he found not guilty, he was acquitted of all of them, right?

[B]

Yeah, but they were still wild, you know.

[A]

And I think, I think a lot of it too was because he was so big at that time. I know we got a rap because he was so big at that time and the show was so big a lot. We see this all the time. Sometimes corporations Movies, studios, they just want to back up.

[B]

And it was the height of cancel culture. Like, he might have been, like one of the first sacrifices. He's like a post sacrifice, you know what I mean? So people had to back away. They didn't know what the hell was going on. And I don't.

[D]

And I don't think anybody's laughing at him, right? Because if he did something stupid, like rob a bank or did something stupid to get money, we'd be like, oh, he's stupid. But the fact that he's on Broadway, he's doing One Night Stand, whatever he's.

[F]

Doing, and the fact that he still.

[D]

Do it, whatever you call it, it's a one.

[A]

One. One night only. Come.

[D]

One night only.

[A]

You gotta see. He was supposed to do a bunch of different nights in other places, but they ended up getting canceled.

[B]

It was something about a tree.

[H]

What?

[B]

I don't. I don't know if he had sex with the tree or he was sucking on the tree or something. With the tree.

[D]

You can suck on the tree.

[F]

How do you go to jail for sucking on the tree?

[B]

I don't remember. I just. I'm just. Maybe I'm just conflating all the different things I just remembered. That was so long ago.

[A]

Yeah, I don't know about that. I know he had made, like, some advances towards somebody during, like, a party. Like, there were definitely things like that. But I do know that some of the stuff did get wild. And he was. It was earlier on in all the canceled conversations. So God bless the tree out here.

[B]

Putting your mouth on random branches.

[D]

That is the legend.

[B]

Jesus Christ making people stop that. You don't know crazy.

[D]

Now, don't forget, Jess is here. Just fix my message. Coming up in a little bit. You can get on the phone lines right now. 800-585-1051 for just to fix your mess now. Charlamagne Donkey. Today's up next.

[B]

Yes, man. Speaking of sexual deviants, we need this woman, angel Lynn Carl from Florida, to come to the front of the congregation. I really just don't know what's going on in the world and anymore. But y' all need Jesus.

[D]

All right, we'll get to that.

[F]

Next.

[D]

It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Make sure you tell them to watch out for Florida man.

[B]

The craziest people in America come from the Bronx and all of Florida. Yes, you are a donkey.

[E]

The Florida man attacked an ATM for.

[A]

A very strange reason.

[E]

It gave him too much money. Florida man is arrested after deputies say he rigged the door to his home in an attempt to electrocute his pregnant wife. Police arrested an Orlando man for attacking.

[B]

A flamingo, the Breakfast Club donkey of the day with Charlemagne.

[A]

The guy.

[B]

I don't know why y' all keep letting him get y' all like this. It's not me, little Duvall, okay? It's Florida Donkey. Today for Thursday, November 20, goes to a Clearwater, Florida, woman named Angel Lynn Curl. What does your Uncle Charlotte always say to you about the great state of Florida? Say it with me. The craziest people in America come from the Bronx and all of Florida, and today is no exception. And I must say, say, boy, Florida got the Bronx beat by a long shot, okay? I'm starting to realize the Bronx is just pretty violent, all right? Folks in Florida are legitimately crazy. And it's the difference between being violent and crazy. And people in Florida are nuttier than a yellow bag of M M's. Okay? You don't believe me? Look no further than Angel Curl. Okay? I'm going to say a word right now, and that word will cause a visceral reaction to many out there. And the word is three.

[A]

Them.

[B]

Some people like to invite others into their bedroom. Okay? Personally, I'm too indecisive for a threesome. I learned that a long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long time ago, okay? Early 20s, back when we was in these streets wilding on drugs, drinking, I realized that things like threesomes are way too overstimulating for me. All right? Some things you try once and, you know, you cool on. And I couldn't even imagine at my big grown age partaking in such things. But I'm not knocking anyone who lives that lifestyle style. Do you, boo? But just know, I seen TWA1 and TWA2. I have no reason to want to open Pandora's Box. One box is enough for me. But some folks have to learn that the hard way. That leads me to the story of Angel Lynn Curl. Now, according to police reports, Angel Lynn Curl and her boyfriend, both 47 years old, my age, okay? They were born in 1978. Like me. They invite invited a female friend over to their apartment in Clearwater. And according to reports on the smoking gun, they intended to engage in hot, steamy, sweaty sexual activity hunching in that Florida humidity. Yep, that's what they intended to do. They wanted to be grown. But for some strange reason, the threesome didn't happen. Police don't mention a reason, okay? They didn't. They don't mention a reason for the night. Taking a Turn. But the police did say that at some point, all parties decline participating in sexual activity. Let the record show this is the adult version of scheduling a play date and then having the play date not happen. Okay, but it's not that all parties decline to participate in. In sexual activity. I mean, it's not that all the parties. It's not just that all the party declined to participate in sexual activity. It's what happened after all the parties declined to participate in sexual activity. See, angel must have been very homicide horny. And angel, you're not yourself when you're horny. Because angel turned into a devil. All right? The disappointment of not being able to pull back some meat curtains must have been too much for angel to handle. I mean, angel must have been feeding the feast on a fur burger because according to police and the witness who happened to be the other woman, angel started punching her boyfriend in the face 1:15 on a Sunday morning. All of y' all should have had y' all asses in the bed get getting some sleep so you could prepare to be in somebody's church in the morning. But no, y' all up ready to have a meat and 2 vag combo meal. That meat and 2 vag combo meal didn't happen. So now angel, like, hell no. If we not beating up no fish lips. Something getting beat in this house tonight, and it's going to be you. So she started beating on her boyfriend, and she was placed under arrest for domestic battery. Fellas, toxic femininity doesn't get discussed enough, okay? This is why so many men are choosing the bear hair over women. I mean, just think about this clearly based off what we now know, all right? This threesome was Angel's idea. So her boyfriend decides he doesn't want to do it. Okay? The other woman decides she doesn't want to do it. And then angel beats up the boyfriend. Based off recent events of the last two years, angel should be charged with a rico. Okay? You organize the freak off. And then when I don't want to participate, I get beat on. All because I didn't want to put a deposit in somebody else's meat.

[F]

Was.

[B]

Listen, I'm all for sexual liberation of women. I think women should be able to make whatever sexual decision they want. But if I change my mind as a man about whatever we have planned to do sexually, then respect my decision, ma', am, okay? That should not lead to me getting beat on just because I don't want to plant my seed in another woman's lady garden. What if all I wanted was one penis glove. Better yet, what if all I needed was one penis glove? And I realized that in that moment, the energy wasn't right. I wasn't feeling it. I don't have to give a reason. No means no, ma'.

[A]

Am.

[B]

And if the penis glove don't fit, then another woman can't suck my throat.

[D]

Stop it. Where you going?

[B]

What you.

[D]

I don't know what you about to say.

[B]

What do you mean? All right, please give Angel Lynn Curl the sweet sounds of the Hamiltones.

[A]

Of the day.

[B]

And Angela, I'm gonna tell you another thing. You got arrested at 1:15 in the morning. The eyewitness was the other woman that y' all called over. You know what they was doing while y' all was in jail?

[F]

Oh, wow.

[B]

While you was in jail, you know what they was doing? Okay, that was a plan to get your stupid ass up out of there. Okay, but why?

[D]

Why did they turn down a threesome? Was it maybe the girl didn't look?

[B]

I have no idea.

[D]

Maybe there was a smell.

[B]

I. I don't know. I have no idea. I don't want to be the judge of that. I don't know. I don't know.

[C]

All right.

[F]

Sound like a TV movie.

[B]

Call Alvin Gray was his name.

[F]

That sound like something I've watched Watched before.

[D]

All right, tv. Well, that is donkey today.

[B]

Thank you, sir.

[D]

Up next, Jess, fix my mess. 805-85-1051. Jess is here and she's fixing your mess. If you got a problem, Something going on in your relationship, maybe a threesome didn't work out Whatever it may be. 800-585-1051. Just fix my mess. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[B]

It's the real deal. Help me, help me.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[A]

I'm all up in your mess. Imma fix it, fix it, fix it.

[F]

Just gonna fix your mess.

[A]

Cause my advice is real.

[D]

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Now it's time for Just Fix My Mess. And we have Nicole on the line. Nicole, good morning.

[H]

Good morning, good morning, good morning.

[D]

What's up, Nicole? Where you calling from?

[A]

I'm caught.

[H]

All right, Charlemagne. I'm from the Bronx.

[D]

Oh, boy. All right, take me through there. Take me through there. What's your question?

[H]

Okay, we all from the Bronx. Bronx. And the one that I'm talking about is from the upper class Bronx. Mount Vernon.

[D]

Okay, I thought Westchester was the upper class Bronx, but okay, I'm sorry. Or Riverdale it is.

[H]

Westchester County. Mount Vernon.

[F]

All right, my bad guy, he's just trying to check. Okay, what's going on, babe?

[B]

What's wrong?

[H]

What happened is. Okay, first of all, the person I'm talking about is like, Kim from Housewives Atlanta. Same color on the front of the hand and the back of the hand.

[F]

Anyway. Mm. Okay, I got you.

[H]

All the rest of us is up.

[A]

Us.

[D]

She white.

[A]

Anyway.

[D]

She white or light skin.

[H]

Okay, yes, she. But she Italian, so she white.

[D]

You can say white.

[H]

Say white, and everybody that know us gonna know that it's me, and I don't give a.

[F]

Okay, okay, all right, okay.

[H]

Sorry for cursing. It's a. It's a morning show. It's a family show.

[B]

Sorry.

[A]

Okay.

[H]

But anyway, what happened is this chick decides to conjure up a text message dialect stating that it was from me to her and decides to send it to him and his other baby mother. I don't know where. I swear. I wish I could show you how to text message. This chick says, decide to say that I am, I guess, dysfunctional and feeling myself, and I'm gonna kill myself because he's in love with the other baby mother. First of all, awesome. Like on some cyber bullying type, like, acting like I'm like. But the whole thing in a nutshell. She. The dialect that she put up. She up and put what I was supposed to say on her side, dummy.

[F]

Oh, okay, so she was lying. It's fabricated anyway. And she ain't even do it right.

[H]

The whole. Yeah, she up and dumbed herself out. You kicked yourself out of the running. Dumb and.

[F]

Okay, okay, anyway, all right, so she.

[H]

Goes and does that and make it seem as though I'm trying to kill myself and I'm in love with him and he's in love with somebody else. None of this is happening.

[F]

It's like you going crazy trying to make it seem like you going crazy because you can't have it.

[H]

Absolutely got.

[F]

Ooh.

[H]

And. And now the other baby mother calling me like, oh, my God, are you okay? I'm like, what the are you talking about?

[B]

Stop cursing.

[H]

The day before my birthday.

[F]

Oh, wow. Okay, okay, Right, So I'm like, the.

[H]

Fact that she is white, I'm like, I need to hit you where you like to be to be hit at. I'm ready to sue this.

[F]

Yeah, yeah, gotta do that.

[H]

This straight up shows that it's a f. A fiction ass. This not real.

[B]

Stop cursing.

[H]

Oh, I'm sorry. It's a family show.

[F]

She keep on saying, it's a family show.

[H]

My bad, my bad.

[F]

Okay, All Right. So look, let me get this straight, all right? So the person that you talking about is your baby father.

[H]

No, me and him. Me and him are in a relationship.

[F]

All right, so this your baby father, this is somebody that you deal with. Yes, and his baby mother. And his baby mother is a clown.

[C]

Basically.

[H]

Everybody's gonna know right now.

[D]

Okay.

[H]

Give a. This hoe is dumb. Oh, sorry, family.

[A]

Okay, so y' all need to have.

[H]

Me on after midnight, but go ahead.

[F]

All right. No, I got you. All right, so the. The. The guy that you dealing with, his baby mother is making up st about you fabricating stories, basically telling them that. Like, trying to make you look crazy. She orchestrated some. Some messages that she didn't even edit. Right. To make you look bad, but it just makes her look stupid. And what is the guy saying? Is the guy falling for the crap? Like, what's happening?

[H]

I don't give a. Okay, this is this hoe, Right?

[F]

Right.

[H]

So it ain't even about him. I don't care how he feel about her. We feel about. I don't care. It's the fact that. Who you think you are.

[F]

Yeah.

[H]

It's either this or I want to beat you up.

[F]

Right. And I don't want you to go to jail, so. Because you don't deserve that.

[B]

Not at all.

[F]

So don't even beat her up.

[H]

I just want you exposed.

[F]

Yeah, leave. Yeah, just leave.

[H]

You did this for me. You running around doing this probably everywhere.

[F]

Everywhere. I believe that she's a wet hoe.

[H]

And she needs to be exposed.

[F]

Yeah. How long y' all been dealing with each other? How long you been dealing with this guy?

[H]

I've been dealing with this guy for the last eight years.

[A]

But I've.

[H]

No, he's my first boyfriend since I was, like, 14.

[F]

Oh, God. And then. All right, so y' all got history, y'.

[D]

All.

[F]

So you're a threat to this girl basically because you was dealing with him before he even got a baby mother.

[H]

My love. I'm a threat to the world, Period.

[B]

All right?

[H]

Period.

[F]

Okay. All right. Well, look, don't go to jail. Leave this guy alone. This baby.

[H]

Hey, look, that's what I'm saying.

[F]

This baby mother is gonna make you do some things that you don't have no business doing. And you gotta. Man, like, you gotta realize you gotta count that jail sentence. Like Charlemagne always say, you gotta count. You gotta do. Do your math. Do your jail math, because you can't be in jail behind this.

[H]

Oh, I definitely can't do a day. I'm too cute. For that, I'm just saying.

[B]

Exactly.

[H]

To be exposed.

[F]

Right.

[H]

And I'm ready to sue her.

[F]

All right, well, look, do it that way. Go sue her ass. She can leave you alone. You probably get a nice payday or whatever or.

[A]

She ain't bothering me.

[H]

This ho can't stand 10 next to me anywhere. She can't see that no table I'm.

[F]

At, crazy that was. She gonna have her ass in court if you go there. So that's, That's. That's the best place for y' all to handle this. All right.

[D]

Goodbye, potty mouth. Bye. Jesus. The craziest people from the Bronx.

[F]

Look, these your people?

[D]

They're not my people.

[F]

Yeah, they are. New York.

[D]

Hello? Who's this?

[G]

Hey, good morning.

[B]

Good morning.

[G]

I'm gonna remain anonymous this morning only because.

[A]

Okay.

[G]

You listen to the radio.

[F]

Okay? That's what's up. What's going on?

[B]

So.

[G]

Good morning, Jess. Good morning, DJ Envy Charlemagne.

[C]

Morning. Morning.

[G]

So I've been dating this woman, she's about 39, and everything was going good for the first, like, eight months, I guess you could say. We seen each other, I was always making the effort, you know, trying to get her out. Then things took a turn and it's like she lets her mama and her 13 year old daughter basically dictate and control her life and her relationship. And I keep trying to tell her, like, you're gonna. You're gonna separate us by doing so. Next thing is, lately she comes to see me like once a month. Mind you, we only live 15 minutes apart and you work five minutes from my house.

[F]

She sees you once a month.

[G]

Once a month.

[F]

Okay.

[G]

I can tell you that there is nobody else. I know she's a faithful woman.

[F]

Okay.

[G]

But she's letting her family run all over her and not be in a relationship. Really? Like, they don't want to see her.

[F]

Happy, so they dictate her life. Pretty much, basically, yeah.

[G]

Like, as soon as they tell her to do something. Oh, we'll have to see if I have time. Which means you got time.

[F]

Right, Right, right. But they don't want to see her happy. Yeah, they'll lose access to her. So they don't want her to be happy in love.

[G]

Exactly. And then her daughter, on top of it, she's like, yeah, I don't like him. He's invading in my territory. Which, like, you know, your mama hasn't been with anybody while now there's somebody there, you feel like they're invading. But you're a child.

[F]

She's a child. How Old is she? You say she, you said she's 13. Yeah, okay.

[G]

I have a 13 year old daughter too.

[F]

Okay.

[G]

My daughter like that when I'm a single parent.

[F]

Right, right, right, right. And then the, the daughter's father is in her life.

[G]

No.

[F]

All right, so you want to know what to do? How long y' all been dating?

[G]

Yeah, cuz like it's been a year and six months now. And it's like it's really getting straight because it's like you never have time unless like, you know, I do win a lot of tickets. Thank y', all, by the way. I do win a lot of tickets on the radio.

[F]

Gotcha.

[G]

And that seems to be the only time she can make time. Oh, you got tickets?

[B]

Oh yeah.

[G]

I'll go to a concert with you. But you can't make time out of the week or the weekend.

[F]

Oh, damn.

[G]

Spend ethical time going to dinner.

[F]

Okay, all right, well have you talked to her about this? Like, have you set her down?

[B]

Like, look, many a time.

[F]

What are we doing? Okay, what comes of it? What are her responses? Like, does she seem to care or what?

[G]

The same thing every time.

[B]

Time.

[G]

Oh, I'm gonna try and do better. You know, I haven't been spending time, but it's like, I tell you this, and lately I've been dropping a lot of like, shade, if you know what I mean.

[F]

Yeah, no, I got you her cousin.

[G]

Her cousin is dating my best friend.

[F]

Okay.

[G]

She goes to see him and he lives next door to me. Her cousin makes time to see this every day.

[F]

Right, right.

[G]

And so I tell him, like, it must be nice when somebody can go see somebody every day. Yeah, I gotta wait once a month.

[F]

Yeah, well, you know, it, what it sounds like. Yeah, no, it's all good. I, what I think it sounds like is she doesn't have time for a relationship and neither does she want to prioritize her relationship. You know, if her family is dictating, like, you know, her mom, her mom, her daughter, if they're able to dictate her life, it's, it's about what she will and won't tolerate, you know what I mean? From them. But if this is her way of living and this man, brother run for the hill because it's going to take a lot. I, it just seems like, you know, a year, a year and six months. That's 18 months. That's, that's not a lot, a lot of time invested to, to be on the same page about this right now.

[G]

And you know, the worst thing is she'll throw at me. She'll be like, oh well, you know, whenever we live together then you'll get time. Why do I not wait that long?

[F]

You're not even really giving me anything to make me me, like even desire that. I don't even know what that would be like.

[B]

Yeah.

[G]

And she's like, I do love you. Believe it. I said, and I thought I said the word sound good, but the action.

[F]

Yeah. And that. And that's just what it is. Yeah, you gotta, you gotta leave her. And then.

[G]

See my problem is that's my struggle.

[F]

Yeah. Yeah. Cause you love it.

[G]

I was in an eight year relationship and it was hard for me to leave. And you know, that was years ago. So it's always hard for me to walk away even though I need to too. And I think it's more of I don't want to hurt nobody's feelings. But at the end of the day, yeah, I get it's about yourself too.

[F]

That's crazy. You don't want to hurt nobody feelings. But you are deprived in your own relationship right now. Like you could, you could easily go cheat. I'm not telling you to do that because I think that'd be some BS when you can just leave her. But I'm just saying, like there are brothers that will go, gee, you see your girl once a month, like what the hell? What are we doing? Like, and you live 15 minutes away from it ain't like you, she live overseas or in another state or in another, Another city.

[G]

Exactly. You can't make 15 minutes or come to the house once a week, you know, once, twice a week, just to hang out for a few minutes or a few hours.

[F]

Yeah, I think.

[G]

And then when she did used to come over, she only came over for like three hours. She'd come over at 10 o', clock, 6 or 12, go home.

[F]

Yeah, I think, I think what you should do is choose yourself for once. Just choose yourself. You know what I mean? Obviously you have to haven't chosen yourself or put yourself first. You said you ran an eight year toxic relationship because you couldn't leave. Nobody toxic is ever going to leave you. You got to leave it. You know what I'm saying? So yeah, she, you're. She's only comfortable doing this because you allowed it. You know what I mean? Like, it is what it is. You gotta leave her, you know, and if, and if it's meant to be, she'll get herself together. You feel me? She'll realize what she got and she'll put things into Perspective, like, damn.

[B]

Not.

[F]

Nah. I really just let a good man go, you know? It's perfect. My daughter's 13. His child is 13. Like, we have so much in common, you guys. Sometimes you gotta remind somebody of what they have, and the only way of doing that is leaving that situation. You gotta do it. You gotta be strong enough to do it. That's just what it is, bro. Like, you have to.

[G]

I appreciate that.

[F]

No problem. No problem. Update me. Call back. Call, you know, call back next week. But had that conversation with it be like, yo, I'm not happy, and I'm sorry. I, like, I gotta choose me. Like, for the first time in my love life, I have to choose me because this. This hurts me. I'm not happy, and I can't keep faking it. So we. We can. We gotta. We gotta separate. And that's it.

[G]

All right, I'm gonna have a talk with her this weekend. I'll get back at y' all next week.

[D]

All right?

[F]

Next Thursday. I need to hear from you.

[B]

Yo, good luck, bro.

[G]

I got you.

[F]

All right?

[D]

Just fix my mess. 800-585-1051. When we come back, we got the latest with Lauren. Lauren, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[F]

Lauren becoming a straight thing.

[B]

She gets it from somebody that knows somebody.

[A]

I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything.

[B]

She'll be having the latest on this.

[C]

The Latest with Lauren LaRosa.

[B]

Sometimes you have facts, sometimes you have details. Sometimes you have a little bit everything. Well, it's the latest on the Breakfast Club. Talk to me, LL Cool Bay.

[A]

All right, guys. So Glorilla has the people having a conversation about. About whether we want a Glorilla R B album or not. So Glorilla got on her ex account and she tweeted that she will be dropping an R B album. Now, whether she is serious about this or not, we do not know. But I mean, she's leaned into the R B. You know, she just dropped the typo and she, you know, she's a little melodic as well. But people are debating right now what a Glorilla R B album would sound like.

[B]

Well, type. Was she rapping though?

[A]

Huh?

[B]

Type of. She rap.

[A]

She is, but, I mean, she just samples.

[D]

She could.

[A]

She. I know she was doing performances. Like when she would do her stage performances, sometimes she would do some R B songs and like, fake cover. Like, you know, kind of just something in the show.

[D]

I think she could.

[A]

I think it would have to be a lot of samples she gonna be singing.

[F]

Yeah, I Was gonna say, but she wouldn't be singing. It'll just be.

[A]

We don't know what her idea of a Glorilla R B album would be.

[D]

They could be samples of R B music or she could sing. Drake did an R and B album.

[F]

I was gonna say, like. But he. He, He. He got like a little. Little tune, though. Like drinking curry.

[B]

Like a little.

[D]

A little note, you know, a little note.

[A]

You can't edit that up. Punch that up, can't you? Like, if she's singing and she's, like.

[F]

Harmonizing a bit, performing it. That's the thing.

[A]

Yeah, that's true.

[B]

I just want more Glorilla music. Okay. Typo could be the first single off of whatever her new project is.

[D]

Army.

[B]

Yes, Whatever. Not even just R B. Just whatever her new. Her new project is. Because if it wasn't for Kendrick Lamar last year, Glorious would have been the best hip hop album.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, I could see that. Yeah. Well, she got the people stirred with this one. Like, people.

[B]

I don't know why.

[A]

People love to get mad about things that shouldn't be even. Even like it.

[B]

What else they gonna do on social media?

[A]

Her saying she wants to do an R B album and make people be like, ah.

[B]

Like a lot of people ain't really got nothing else to do.

[A]

I saw and I was like, I'm just interested. What does that mean?

[F]

People just trying to figure out how she would come with an R B album. I mean, I don't know about getting mad about it, but being curious is to see why. Like, all right, what.

[B]

What? Just let her c. What's so crazy is she's clearly playing.

[D]

Maybe not.

[A]

There was no LOL at the end of the tweet. I mean, we don't know.

[B]

There was no lol at the end. Gorilla is the queen of sarcasm on social media.

[A]

Yeah, but would it be off if she. If she dropped today like a.

[D]

Like a Snoop did a gospel album.

[A]

If she dropped anything today that's. She's previewing a song that maybe on this album, I wouldn't be surprised because I think she can. She can lean into that and we be all right with it.

[F]

And she know. I mean, she probably cool with, like, a lot of the R and B, like the Kanis, the Givans, the Khalid, the. You know what I mean? She might. She might really jump in that bag. The Mariah scientists, you know what I'm saying? It might be a feature album with a bunch of army.

[B]

She can do whatever she wants. She already got a gospel and Stop.

[A]

Playing with that girl. She kind of. I mean, she's rapping still, but it's a little.

[F]

Yeah, I don't got her sing R B.

[B]

No, you making this up. I'm really just making all of this up.

[F]

Yeah, I got her.

[H]

I've been trying to.

[A]

I've been trying to grab the melody of what the album would be like, y'.

[D]

All.

[A]

So I was just trying to.

[F]

Yeah, I don't got her singing. I got her just doing, like, you know, like, collaboration with a bunch of different R B artists.

[A]

Well, in other music conversations so juvenile. Many fresh have dropped a podcast. It's called Still 400 via Breakbeat. Still is from Still Fly 400 from 400 Degrees. The first guests were the 85 South show, and they are having a conversation about who is on your South Mount Rushmore of artists. Let's take a listen.

[C]

Who's on your South Mount Rushmore? It's gonna be hard for.

[B]

Yeah, it's hard.

[D]

Okay, Di. Number one, I gotta go with Outcast. Give me Scarface.

[G]

All right, all right.

[D]

I got Scarface, and then I gotta.

[A]

Go with Fear Mark.

[B]

All right.

[A]

Dang. I take.

[B]

I take three stacks.

[C]

I take Wayne. I put Juvia up there. And Project Pat. That's a nice.

[B]

Man. I gotta go. Go Pimp C. Master P. Project Pat.

[D]

Me personally. I gotta go Gucci.

[C]

All right.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Who's on yours? One, maybe two people. Don't do, like, five.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

There's only four. For Mount Rushmore, Outcast would be. I don't like when they say outcast.

[D]

Because that's the group.

[B]

That's not the way Mount Rushmore works.

[D]

But they're a group, though, because it's. I mean, you got to put them. They're one group that takes one spot because. Well, they take one spot because they're Outcast ass.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

You don't have. No. Y' all don't have. Who would be on your.

[B]

You got to be specific because you have down south pioneers. You have down south artists. Like, you know, for me. Like, for me, I. I wouldn't put, like, if I was doing a Pioneer list. I'm putting Master P, Uncle Luke, Jermaine Dupri, and probably J. Prince on a. On a. A list of pioneers. Right?

[D]

Pioneers.

[B]

Right.

[D]

Cuz J. Prince don't rap.

[B]

But then lyricist is something different. This is TI for sure. Scarface for sure. And I really would have to think hard about the other two.

[D]

Do you not put Jeezy on that list?

[A]

Because Jeezy was On my list.

[B]

Here's the thing about the Mount Rushmore. When I think about Mount Rushmore, I put the person who started that. So TI Started that trap music.

[A]

Correct.

[B]

So therefore, I wouldn't put Jeezy on there. I would actually. I'd put Little John on there.

[D]

Jeezy mastered it. But then, yeah, you got a little.

[B]

GI Scarface, Little John and Artist. I don't know. I really. I would have to think about that.

[D]

Gotta put face on there. Scarface.

[C]

I said that.

[B]

T.I. scarface, definitely. When you talking about artist, T.I. scarface, Lil John. And I would really have to think hard about who the last.

[D]

How do not put Outcast on it. You know what I mean?

[B]

I want to put Outcast on there, but they're a group. Like, I want to put them on there. I want to say TI Scarface, Lil John and Outcast. But it just always confuses me.

[A]

You have the dual heads and how.

[D]

You don't put Gucci on there. Because so many artists came from my.

[A]

List is a Little bit right. Andre 3000, Gucci and Jeezy. But mine, I knew you were going to say generationally different.

[B]

My personal favorite is TI gz, Killer Mike, Scarface. But that's not a Mount. I wouldn't put that in Mount Rushmore. Mount Rushmore, TI Scarface, Little John and I. I'll do Outcast if y' all do. If y' all go in groups.

[D]

Ugk. I mean, this is so many people.

[B]

That's a tough one, man. And you can't. And that's why you got to do a Pioneers list. Because you can't leave off Matth P. You can't leave off J. You can't leave off J. Prince. You don't get. You don't get most of this stuff without them.

[F]

Yeah, well, I don't have a Mount Rushmore for the South.

[A]

Who you like?

[B]

Everyone.

[D]

What's your Mount Rushmore for Baltimore.

[B]

You know what? I'm being disrespectful.

[F]

No, come on. Don't disrespect me like that.

[B]

I got to be objective. I'm being disrespectful.

[F]

Not full rappers in Baltimore.

[B]

T.I. scarface. You got to put Wayne up there.

[D]

Oh, I forget about Wayne. Wayne.

[B]

You got to put Wayne.

[A]

It's because he's resonated so much out of the side off and forget about him.

[B]

And I can make a case for juvie, too.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

I'm just saying, like, I. I don't like this stuff.

[D]

Yeah, it's too.

[A]

I thought it was a great source.

[B]

I don't like it.

[A]

Yeah. Well, make sure you guys go and check out their new podcast. That was their first episode. Great conversation so far. And as we wrap, I just want to tell y', all, Sukihana said after Ray J's interview she is not giving out any more coochie.

[B]

So I thought you about to do a Delaware rappers Mount Rushmore.

[A]

Oh, we got it.

[H]

We got.

[A]

She's Bobby Dimes, Sukihana, Suki and Suki.

[D]

All right.

[A]

Period.

[D]

And then how do you not say the birthday boy Future? Future is Delaware.

[B]

Once again, girl, you talk Mount Rushmore, it's a different conversation. Future is one of them ones. But Mount Rushmore means the people who soldiers that folks stand on. The foundation was laid because a lot.

[D]

Of these newer artists staying on Future show. This a tough one, man.

[F]

All right, well, happy birthday, Joe Biden. This is Birthday.

[B]

Shout him out. Delaware.

[F]

Delaware. Happy birthday.

[A]

First of all, just got the birthday.

[D]

She know she rapper in Delaware.

[A]

We got Biden. We got Suki, Bobby Dimes, rb Bobby Dimes, Biden.

[B]

Bars suck.

[D]

All right.

[B]

Best bars. You ain't black. Oh, my God.

[A]

Yeah, off the top with it, too. You ain't saying nothing. You can't even.

[B]

You can't even rap back if you're saying that you're not a real journalist.

[D]

Let's get to the mix. We'll start off with Future today. Let's start off with Futures.

[B]

The Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[D]

Hey, everybody.

[A]

It's DJ Envy.

[D]

Just hilarious Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Now, salute to Dr. Joelle A. Tubman for joining us this morning.

[B]

Man, what a great conversation, man. Make sure you go pick up his book. The Fight to Find Yourself Moving from Uncertainty to unstoppable.

[D]

That's right.

[B]

What did you take from the conversation, Lauren? He had a lot to say to you.

[F]

Thought that was dope.

[A]

Yeah, I thought it was great. I took from the conversation that it's a forever. Like, this journey of finding yourself is like a forever thing, because where he feels like he is right now, I am so far and I'm not there, and I'm okay with that. And there's a lot of work to do, and I think there'll always be a lot of work to do is what I took from this.

[B]

If you're doing life right, you're constantly finding yourself.

[A]

Yeah. But I. I think the biggest thing I learned from it is that I actually know that I'm finding myself, and I'm okay with it, because at one point, I feel Like, I wasn't okay with. I'm finding myself because people think you have it all together when you got things going on.

[B]

And I also believe that you know people. You don't. You don't have to know everything. Like, it's a constant journey of learning. Every day. Every day you should be learning something, but that's tough.

[A]

And to learn. No, not to learn, but to learn that you don't have to know everything. Because in certain instances in life, I've.

[B]

Been like, twitter act like they know everything.

[A]

No, not even Twitter. I mean, just being, like, Even in my household, you growing up the only. The first.

[B]

Been giving her actual advice.

[A]

Advice or just even accepting, like, love and, you know, positive things. Yeah, I think that's why.

[F]

Look, here we go.

[A]

I think it does stem from dad issues. And I also think it stems from having, like, my mom never really, really acknowledged, like, daddy issues because I was just cool. I was taken care of. So I've never known how to allow men to come into my life and even extend a hand because my mom, like, she had it figured out. Like, we were straight.

[B]

I got you.

[F]

Yeah, but we love you.

[A]

Yeah, baby.

[B]

Damn.

[D]

See, you know what?

[B]

I love you. See how I love you, My man.

[C]

You see that?

[B]

God damn. I love you. From a man. You not my father. You ain't come to Christmas. You won't be here.

[F]

Does this bother you at all?

[A]

The. The mocking and I know they be going through things. Envy still finding his identity, and Charlemagne is just still in the closet, so.

[B]

In the closet of what? You are so homophobic. It's disgusting.

[D]

That's what I'm talking about.

[B]

Biggest supporter being homopho. We can't have women on the show. No, no.

[F]

I love them.

[B]

I love all crazy. Every. All right, guys.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

It's too much.

[C]

It's too much.

[A]

What?

[B]

Boy?

[D]

Say this is too much.

[F]

This is too much.

[D]

Ev.

[B]

Yesterday, Ray wrote this.

[D]

What?

[B]

He put. I don't know. He put. No further questions, your honor.

[A]

Stop asking him questions.

[B]

He wrote this for no reason.

[D]

I think we was asking about Sheila. I think he wrote down.

[C]

I don't know.

[D]

You got a positive note, man.

[F]

Yo, before we get out of here, first week of December, Hartford, Connecticut. I will be back, y'.

[B]

All.

[F]

Manchester Connect. Connecticut. That's what it's called or whatever, but Funny Bone Comedy Club. I'll be there. We got two shows on December 5th. That's on the Friday, December 6th. On the Saturday, we got two as well. Get your tickets if you haven't yet. Just hilarious. Official dot com.

[B]

Yes, indeed.

[D]

All right. You got a positive note.

[A]

I do.

[B]

I want to remind people too, man. This Saturday from 10am to 12pm I'm having my 12th annual Thanksgiving giveaway in Moncks Corner, South Carolina at the Berkeley High School student parking lot, man. So you know, we'll have turkeys and you know all the fixings, you know all the fixings to put together a nice Thanksgiving dinner. So 10am to 12pm this Saturday, Berkeley High School student parking lot, Moncks Corner, South Carolina, Berkeley county area. Pull up. And the positive note today comes from Maya Angelou. Okay, Maya Angelou once said, you may encounter many defeats, but you must not be defeated. In fact, it may be necessary to encounter the defeats so you can know who you are, what you can rise from, and how you can still come out of it. Have a great day. Breakfast club.

[A]

This is an iHeart podcast.