FULL SHOW: Cash Money Vs. No Limit Verzuz, Turk Responds To Birdman + 112, Case, Total & Ryan Holiday Interview

Summary

The Breakfast Club – Detailed Episode Summary

Date: October 27, 2025
Hosts: DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God
Special Guests: 112, Total, Case, Ryan Holiday
Theme: A jam-packed episode balancing culture, music nostalgia, current events, and wisdom – featuring a recap of the Cash Money vs. No Limit Verzuz, industry commentary from 90s R&B greats, and philosophical insights from author Ryan Holiday.

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Episode Overview

The Breakfast Club dives deep into hip hop nostalgia and music history with a review of the highly anticipated Cash Money vs. No Limit Verzuz. Listeners are treated to candid conversations with R&B legends 112, Total, and Case about their upcoming Room 112 tour and 90s culture. The show also confronts current topics, addressing the government shutdown, HBCU homecoming tragedies, and the devastating Hurricane Melissa. The episode closes with a rich interview on wisdom and learning with prolific author Ryan Holiday.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Weekend Recaps & Homecoming Vibes

[02:13 – 07:20]

• DJ Envy, Jess, and Charlamagne catch up on their weekends, highlighting Philly trips, HBCU homecomings, and Charlemagne’s immersive experience in Dominica during Creole Festival.
• Charlamagne on homecoming culture:
  "If you ever been to homecoming, especially HBCU homecoming, that's one of the safest places to go. There's never a reason to bring a weapon with you...I've never felt unsafe at a homecoming ever." [37:55]
• Discussion on 21 Savage's Dominican roots and shout-outs to artists and community figures.

2. Front Page News – Government Shutdown & Hurricane

[08:44, 34:46, 35:56]

• Shutdown Impacts: Furloughed air traffic controllers; SNAP (food stamp) benefits ending Nov. 1; nationwide economic ripple effects.
  • Mimi Brown: "SNAP benefits will stop November 1st. That’s the program that helps about one in eight Americans put food on the table." [10:38]
• Government Response: Bipartisan finger-pointing; food bank donations encouraged.
• Hurricane Melissa: Category 5, catastrophic effects on Jamaica, Cuba, and the Caribbean.

3. Get It Off Your Chest – Listener Calls

[13:22, 15:34, 18:39, 20:01]

• Callers discuss struggles with the shutdown, FAA employees working without pay, and concern over Jamaica’s hurricane outlook.
• Highlights the human cost of current events with real stories.

4. Cash Money vs. No Limit Verzuz Recap

[21:43 – 32:33, 73:21 – 78:10]

• Star-Studded Lineups: Birdman, Mannie Fresh, Juvenile (Cash Money); Master P, Mia X, Mystikal absent (No Limit); surprise guests included Snoop Dogg and Kelly Price.
  • Angela Yee: "There were over 30,000 people in attendance for the complete complex con, which is where versus went down at. And versus happened between Cash money and no limit." [21:43]
• Discussion about crowd energy, setlist selection, missing artists, and why Lil Wayne and Turk weren’t present.
• Birdman’s speech on stunting/cultural influence prompted immediate reactions:
  • Birdman: "I started this stunt. I started this jewelry. I'm the first with diamonds in their teeth. I'm the first with tattoos in their face." [28:34]
  • Charlamagne: "So you're the reason all these people got tattoos on their face and spending all their money on jewelry." [29:14]
• Why So Short? Only 10 rounds vs. traditional 20, leaving legends and major hits offstage.
  • DJ Envy: "Listen, it was too short, alright? It was way too short." [31:04]
• Aftermath: Turk responds on YouTube, emphasizing the importance of unity and the fans:
  • Turk: "I feel like last night, man, the fans lost ... people lose, it's the fans, bro." [76:19]

5. 112, Total, Case – R&B Legends Interview

[41:46 – 72:47]

• Room 112 Tour: Celebrating 30 years; collaboration rooted in mutual respect, shared management, and the resurgence of 90s culture.
  • Mike Keith (112): "Honestly, it just felt right, it being 30 years, us being in the game. We wanted to bring back that 90 nostalgia." [42:40]
• 90s Culture & Bad Boy Era:
  • Insights into maintaining authenticity, blending hip hop with R&B, and the creative process.
  • Total: "The name started out as total opposite because we were all individuals in our own way, you know, so it wasn't like you had to buy the brand. We came as we were." [43:39]
• Influence and Longevity:
  • Mike Keith: "112 had a lot to do with [blending hip hop into R&B]... Puff told us... Sing the song as if you're in the club drinking and you're trying to holla at a girl." [46:58]
• Studio Stories:
  • Total shares how they contributed vocals on Biggie’s "Juicy" and "One More Chance," chronicling life lessons from Bad Boy and studio encounters with Faith Evans and The Notorious B.I.G.
• Mental Health and Industry Pressure:
  • Mike Keith: "The industry gives but it also takes. One of the things is, you know, the lack of, you know, the mental health that comes along." [67:11]

6. Culture & Community

[115:12 – 118:37]

• HBCU Homecoming Traditions: Ari Fletcher unwittingly sparks debate on alumni participation at homecoming events. Hosts and listeners discuss the importance of alumni support both financially and culturally.

7. Donkey of the Day

[80:26 – 87:07]

• East Point, Michigan incident:
  Charlemagne spotlights the importance of calculating the consequences of one’s actions (“jail math”) after a parent’s emotional response at a school leads to serious charges.
  • Charlamagne: "You have to make all these calculations in your head before you make certain decisions… Some of us have decided that if someone ever harms our kids in any way, we going to jail. But what I need us parents to understand is there is levels to reacting." [80:54]

8. Ryan Holiday Interview – Wisdom Takes Work

[88:16 - 109:39]

• Central Claim: Wisdom is the virtue on which all other virtues depend.
  • Ryan Holiday: "Wisdom tells us when and how to apply the others… If you don't have the wisdom, the intelligence to know how to bring it into the world..." [88:51]
• Learning from Experience: Wisdom comes from deliberate struggle, critical engagement, and a cycle of learning/applying/repeating—not just age.
  • Charlamagne: "I think wisdom has to come from age, though." [92:20]
  • Ryan Holiday: "Wisdom is this sort of piece that brings it all together. And one of the problems is that we assume wisdom is this thing that just happens..." [89:25]
• Political & Social Commentary: Insights on education’s evolution, the dangers of suppressing knowledge, and the need for discernment in the "kakistocracy" (government by the least qualified).
  • Ryan Holiday: "We are in a dangerous moment… People who are not just not smart, but actively afraid of and angry at and resentful of people who have competence and knowledge because they’re fundamentally threatened by it." [105:31]
• Memorable Quote: "The good thing about not being an expert about something is that it's a solvable problem, but ignorance, if you choose, can be a temporary state." [122:05]

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with timestamps)

• "Yo, Philly is lit, yo." – DJ Envy [03:05]
• "Cash money forever." – Birdman [73:39]
• "We wanted to bring back that 90s nostalgia…We are genuinely like. Total was our first pick to be on this room 112 tour. Case was our first pick." – Mike Keith, 112 [64:07]
• "I didn't know, but that's what I always wanted to do...I always wanted to make music like my parents would listen to stuff from like 20, 30 years earlier..." – Case [45:43]
• "We wanted to study like a spy in the enemy’s camp." – Ryan Holiday [103:31]
• "Learn, apply, repeat." – Ryan Holiday [88:23]
• "Alumni is usually what funds that school to stay afloat." – Charlamagne [116:49]

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Timestamps for Major Segments

| Segment | Time (MM:SS) | |--------------------------------------|--------------------| | Hosts’ Weekend/HBCU Homecoming Recap | 02:13 – 07:20 | | Front Page News | 08:44 – 12:58, 34:46, 35:56 | | Get It Off Your Chest Call-ins | 13:22 – 20:01 | | Lauren LaRosa’s Versuz Recap | 21:43 – 32:33, 73:21 – 78:10 | | 112, Total & Case Interview | 41:46 – 72:47 | | Donkey of the Day | 80:26 – 87:07 | | Ryan Holiday Interview | 88:16 – 109:39 | | Culture: Alumni at Homecomings | 115:12 – 118:37 |

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Tone & Vibe

• Conversational and nostalgic—especially during journeys through 90s music history and R&B camaraderie.
• Candid and passionate—in discussing tough current events, with a steady focus on community resilience.
• Reflective and educational—during the Ryan Holiday segment, which encourages growth through wisdom and discernment.
• Fun, familial banter—hosts ribbing each other and guests, keeping an inclusive, lively studio vibe throughout.

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Useful for Listeners Who Missed the Show:

This episode stands out as a celebration of Black music, mentorship, and culture, while not shying away from the realities affecting listeners’ daily lives. The dynamic mix of star power, honest conversation, and actionable wisdom makes it essential listening for fans of hip-hop, R&B, and self-improvement alike.

Transcript

[Angela Yee]

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[DJ Envy]

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[Angela Yee]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Mike Keith]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Ryan Holiday]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[DJ Envy]

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[Angela Yee]

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[DJ Envy]

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[Ryan Holiday]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Angela Yee]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

They actually lose it.

[Angela Yee]

They sort of went nuts. Until one night, everything spins out of control. Listen to hell in Heaven on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Good morning, usa.

[DJ Envy]

Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Just hilarious. Good morning, Charlemagne the God.

[DJ Envy]

Peace to the planet. It's Y.

[Mike Keith]

Good morning.

[DJ Envy]

How y' all feel out there? I feel blessed, black and highly favored. Happy to be here another day to serve our beautiful listeners. Good morning, man. How was everybody's weekend?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, how's your weekend, Jess? What you do?

[Angela Yee]

It was lit. I was out in Philly, the beautiful city of Philadelphia. I had a private dinner to go to. It was amazing. Shout out to the W in Philly. I'd never stayed at the W in Philly, but it is lit. It is nice. Me and my husband Went shopping and everything. But the. The hospitality shown to us at the Wood was amazing. So shout out to Tony at the W. He's very cool. I like him. And then what else do we do?

[Ryan Holiday]

What else do we do?

[Angela Yee]

But now that's all right. That's pretty much it.

[Ryan Holiday]

Yeah. Philly.

[Angela Yee]

Philly. Because I could. I could spend all morning talking about my weekend in Philly.

[DJ Envy]

Yo, Philly is lit, Yo.

[Angela Yee]

I love it. Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Even though they beat my Giants. But we expect.

[Angela Yee]

Oh, damn. I wasn't even focused on the football of everything. Yeah, they had a home game yesterday. Everybody. Of course, Philly was bigging up Philly, you know what I mean? But it was lit. It was crazy getting out of Philly yesterday, though, because of the game, so.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, salute to everybody that had homecoming this past weekend. Hampton University's homecoming. I was there Friday. I know Howard had a homecoming. I know Norfolk State had a homecoming. I think Virginia State had a homecoming, but it was dope. I ran into. I seen Wyclef. Wyclef performed. I seen Wale perform. Amazing SAP band, Computer love. They. They performed. I seen Gucci, too. Gucci killed Hampton University. When I say killed, it killed it. So me and Gucci chopped it up for a little bit.

[DJ Envy]

You should talk about how the South Carolina State Bulldogs killed the Norfolk State Spartans 51 to 20. That's what you should talk about that. How about you talk about that?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Norfolk's not my school, sir.

[Mike Keith]

So I.

[DJ Envy]

Now you had on New Jersey last week. Nobody should be happy when DJ envy comes to their school. This man had on a Norfolk State jersey this week. Repping hard. Not my school.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was repping Michael Vick. Michael Vick is from the 757. He's a black coach doing.

[DJ Envy]

Coaching at South Carolina State. Got a black coat, too. Black coach. And that's the hpc.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What's his name? What's the black coach name?

[DJ Envy]

That's South Carolina State.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[DJ Envy]

Hold on, let me look up my guy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You gotta Google it.

[DJ Envy]

I don't want to mispronounce it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wear that man's jersey.

[DJ Envy]

That's my man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So I'll be.

[DJ Envy]

Hold on. Chinis Berry. I thought it just say Chenise. That's why I'm glad I looked it up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, salute to that. Salute to them. So I seen everybody in Hampton University and I went over to Norfolk because Lauren was actually hosting at Norfolk. So I went over there with her and she had an event with Lloyd. I seen Lloyd and you know, it's just great seeing a lot of These artists with catalogs because you forget how many records Lloyd had. Lloyd performed like eight, nine records, and they all smashed. I forgot all about him. So, of course, salute to Lloyd. And then I went to my island of Dominica, where my grandfather is from.

[DJ Envy]

Where I'm at now, all of a sudden, it's your island. Yeah, it is. The way they made me feel, everything was.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Dominica. And everybody who I ran into was like, please tell Charlemagne Dominican Republic is not the same as Dominica. So we were at the Dominica island, which is like the nature island. So it's. It's really untouched. So it's just beautiful. It's. It's hiking, it's. It's natural, spas. It's all types of things. But this weekend it was nothing but Creole festival and reggae.

[Angela Yee]

Oh, nice.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So Soca and Calypso. So they start partying. They start performance at 6, and they end at 8am and then 8am everybody goes to the city, and then they party to, like, two, three. Then they sleep, and they do it again for three days straight. That's why I still got this outfit on, because I just left the venue where everybody was performing, and everybody's there, from Vibes, Cartel to Spice, Ty Savage, or everybody was there. So I had a great, great time. It's a beautiful, beautiful, beautiful, beautiful island. And I'm enjoying myself, so I'm. I'm loving it. So I had a great weekend. I ain't gonna front. I had an amazing weekend. This was fun. This was fun, man. What about you, Charlamagne? I seen you was at South Carolina.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, I was home. You know, University of South Carolina's homecoming. That's my wife's alma mater. And then Friday, we had a great conversation with the icon living Don Staley, as well as the other icon living, Asia Wilson. Man, it was. You know, I've done a lot of interviews in my life, you know, with a lot of great people, you know, but, you know, interviewing Don Staley and Asia Wilson in the arena that they made famous, the Colonial Life arena. And just thinking to myself, like, damn, both of these women got statues a block apart in the city of Columbia, South Carolina. That was an incredible interview. And then we got our ass busted Saturday versus Alabama. Yes, she did, but it's okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, well, let's get to, you know, 21 savages mothers from Dominica.

[DJ Envy]

I know she was from my island.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, she's from Dominican. And she moved to London when he was and. And had him. But okay, I was gonna say, who's from the uk, but okay, now she's from here, actually. Yeah. Because everybody was telling me, they was like, you know, 21 Savage has roots here. And I'm like, what are you talking about? It was like, no, his mother was actually. His mother's from here. So I figured. I learned that this weekend too. But let's get this show cracked. Yeah, it's good. It's an amazing time.

[Ryan Holiday]

The.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The resort, the hotel is just. They show me so much love.

[Angela Yee]

Nice.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But today on the show, 112case in total will be joining us. The Room 112 tour. They're celebrating 30 years of 112's music. They're going on the road we' and chop it up with them. And we got front page news when we come back.

[Angela Yee]

It's the Breakfast Club and it's Mariah the Sciences birthday.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I thought they was going to start.

[Angela Yee]

With the Burning Blue because it's Shorty birthday today.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page news. Start off quickly. In sports, Major League Baseball. The World Series is going down. If you don't know the Dodgers versus the Blue Jays. The Series is tied, one one. Now NFL, a lot to go through, so I'm gonna go through them fast. The Ravens beat the Bears. Bills beat the Panthers. Patriots beat the Browns. Buccaneers beat the Saints. The Broncos beat the Cowboys. Packers beat the Steelers. Colts beat the Titans. Eagles beat the Giants. The Texans beat the 49ers, and the jets finally won. One of our producers, he finally has his jets jersey. He had. He bought this jersey eight weeks ago. He finally got a chance to wear him as he was.

[DJ Envy]

I don't respect it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They're one and seven now, and then.

[DJ Envy]

Monday Night Football, but I don't respect the fact that you just putting on your jets jersey this today. Right. You post the rep when they had a butthole. All right, it was owing. When they was owing. Whatever you should have been repping. I can't wear it after a loss.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So, yeah, that's all I gotta win.

[DJ Envy]

That's when you're supposed to win. This might be my only chance of wearing a jersey.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's gonna be your only time this year. And they won by luck. And in Monday Night Football, the Commanders take on the Chiefs at 8:15. What's up, Mimi?

[Mimi Brown]

Good morning, Envy. Jess. Charlemagne. How y' all doing this morning, girl? Good morning. All right, well, we start this morning on day 27 of the government shutdown. And the impact is being Felt just about everywhere from the airports to the kitchen tables. Now, the faa, they issued a ground stop at LAX Sunday morning because of staffing shortages, forcing planes headed for Los Angeles to sit on the tarmac for nearly two hours. Now, flights into Newark, Chicago and Southwest Florida were also delayed, part of a ripple effect spreading across the country. Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy, he warned this weekend on Fox News that flight disruptions will likely get worse, especially tomorrow marks the first full week without pay for air traffic controllers still working throughout the shutdown. Let's listen to that.

[Ryan Holiday]

Yeah, so they got their notice on.

[DJ Envy]

On Thursday and Friday. They get a notice of what they're going to be paid on Tuesday. And they got a big fat zero. No paycheck is coming on Tuesday. And so I've been out talking to our air traffic controllers, and you can see the stress.

[Ryan Holiday]

These are people that oftentimes live paycheck to paycheck. They're concerned about gas in the car. They're concerned about childcare and mortgages. And so I'm seeing the stress come for the controllers. Just yesterday, Maria, we had 22 staffing triggers. That's the one of the highest that.

[DJ Envy]

We'Ve seen in the system since the shutdown began. And that's a sign that the controllers are wearing thin. And again, they're taking second jobs.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They're out there looking, can I drive Uber?

[Ryan Holiday]

Can I find another source of income? Yeah, yeah.

[DJ Envy]

People don't realize how ugly it's about to be, man. You saw this weekend, too, the USDA said they can't use emergency funds for food stamps. So it can't use contingency funds to pay for food stamps during the government shutdown. And states won't be reimbursed if they cover the expenses on their own. So it's about to be ugly.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, it is.

[Mimi Brown]

Absolutely. And on top of that, the FAA, they're already short 3,000 air traffic controllers. And many that are on the job without pay are already working mandatory overtime with six days a week without paying. And as you mentioned, Charlemagne, it is not just limited to the airports. The Department of Agriculture, they did just post yesterday that SNAP benefits will stop November 1st. And that's the program that helps about one in eight Americans put food on the table. So, you know, the White House, the White House, Democrats, Republicans, are pointing fingers at each other. Meanwhile, the American people are suffering.

[DJ Envy]

Only thing I can tell y', all, man, I'm an ambassador at the Food bank in Harlem. You know, I do work with the Hope center in Charleston, South Carolina, as well. Find a food bank in your local neighborhood. And, you know, if you've got a couple extra dollars to donate to them, do it. Because a lot of these people who rely on SNAP and these other benefits, they're going to go hungry and they're going to be relying on food banks, you know, so please, please donate to your local food bank.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, it's going to be nasty. And the trickle effect is really going to hurt, not just, you know, people eating, but people's businesses as well. Like, you think about it, even we were at homecoming this weekend, and I was talking to people and it was like, they. They might not be able to afford to go back to school because a lot of the, you know, the military is. Hampton is based off of his military. And it was like, a lot of people won't be able to do a lot of things. It's. It's going to be nasty, man.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah, definitely a ripple effect.

[Angela Yee]

All right.

[Mimi Brown]

And lastly, the Trump administration, they are sending election officials to monitor polling sites in California and New Jersey. That's coming up ahead of the November 4th special election. Now, that. That usual. That oversight isn't unusual, but this time is drawing attention because of what's on the ballot. Proposition 50 in California, that's the state's redistricting measure that could shift political power in Congress. Democrats call it a political intimidation tactic meant to discourage turnout. But Republicans, they're saying, nope, it's just to monitor what's going on for transparency and ballot security. But we will see either way, federal elections being monitored. Showing up at local polls is the latest reminder just how electrically, electrically popped charge this election season is becoming. So we will continue to watch that. And a familiar change is coming back around, coming up at 7. And not everyone is a fan. We'll tell you what it is and why some people say it is time for it to go.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right? And everybody else, get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. How was your weekend? What did you do? Let's discuss. Get it off your chest. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club.

[Angela Yee]

Wake up. Wake up. Wake your ass. This is your time to get it off your chest.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Whether you're mad or blessed, we want.

[Mike Keith]

To hear from you on the Breakfast Club.

[DJ Envy]

Hello? Who's this?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yo, what's going on? This is your boy, Dingo.

[Angela Yee]

What's going on, Beast?

[DJ Envy]

Dingo.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What's up, Dingo? Where you been, brother? Man, just been trying to live life, brother. You know, just trying to maintain and hold down the fort and Trying to.

[DJ Envy]

Just survive, man, with this government not helping nobody out, so I gotta make.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It do on my own. But it's been good, though, man. I'm blessed. Can't complain. You know, I'm happy.

[Ryan Holiday]

I'm.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm blessed. I'm healthy. So, really, everything has been great, man.

[DJ Envy]

So just wanted to check in. I'm always listening.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So, you know, I just wanted to.

[DJ Envy]

Call in and say what's up to my people, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's been a minute. Hope you enjoyed your trip. Envy. Yeah, man, I'm still here now. I come back tomorrow, but, yeah, I definitely am enjoying it. I'm enjoying every last bit of this weather in this. This nature island. That's what's up.

[DJ Envy]

That's what's up. Charlamagne, my boy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How you doing, man?

[DJ Envy]

I'm blessed. Black and highly favored. How you doing, King? Man, I can't. Like I said, can't complain, brother.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm just happy I'm still out here making it.

[DJ Envy]

Now, reason why I wanted to call.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Here, because Jeff's hilarious. Just hilarious. You here, right?

[Angela Yee]

Yo.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, my God, Jeff.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's crazy this past week, Jess, you have been doing so great. We're coming into work on time. Oh, my God. I have been clocking it. You have been here every day on time.

[Angela Yee]

I was so shocked.

[DJ Envy]

I'm like, dang.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's okay. Thank you. Yeah, girl. Cause you don't have to be there. I love you, man, but you don't be at work.

[Angela Yee]

Shut up. Yo.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But, hey, I'm glad y' all here.

[DJ Envy]

This is love when y' all here, But I just wanted to say that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Jess, I'm proud of you, girl. Keep coming to work on time.

[DJ Envy]

I love y'. All. Shout out to, you know, all of y', all, everybody listeners, and, you know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Just want to spread some love this morning, man.

[DJ Envy]

Y' all be blessed.

[Angela Yee]

Thank you.

[DJ Envy]

Appreciate you, brother.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club.

[Angela Yee]

This is your time to get it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Off your chest, whether you're mad or blessed. I hate the way that you walk.

[DJ Envy]

The way that you talk. I hate the way that you dress. Everything with me is blessed.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Call up next. 800-585-1051.

[DJ Envy]

Not just me, I'm with the culture feeling.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, who's this?

[Angela Yee]

This is Jay calling from Atlanta.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, what's up, mama? Get it off your chest.

[Angela Yee]

Okay, so I work for the faa.

[Mimi Brown]

And I'm Constantly hearing about how the.

[Angela Yee]

Air traffic controllers are working without pay. I need our secretary, Sean Duffy, to come and talk through the fscs and talk to those who are working in the regional offices. Because we are working with lpay. We are working to keep the nas safe and efficient. So without the air traffic controllers, there's no air traffic control towers, and we build those.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So our men are out.

[Angela Yee]

Our men and women are out in the field, going from state to state, airport to airport, radar site to radar site, working to make sure that the airspace is safe. We are working without pay. We are working without any news or.

[Mimi Brown]

Any hope of how we're paying our.

[Angela Yee]

Rent, our mortgages, our children's tuition. So it's not just the air truck, the controllers, it's everybody in the FAA who's forced to work without pay.

[DJ Envy]

I'm sorry, you do know they know that, right? Like, they know y' all working with us.

[Angela Yee]

They know we working without pay. But all we're hearing is, so it's making us think that or making us.

[Ryan Holiday]

Feel that it's only one set of.

[Angela Yee]

People that they're working, they're thinking about. So I just need them to come and talk to those who are working in these.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

In these, in the buildings and the offices and just.

[Angela Yee]

Just do a temperature check.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, I agree with you. I just don't want you to ever think that they are not aware that they're not paying y'. All. They are fully aware that they are not paying. Yeah. Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And it's sad, man. It's. It's so damn. Like, you said, mortgage, it's your car note. It's electric bill is gas bill. It's. It's your kids tuition. It's.

[DJ Envy]

And it's the holidays. That's what. That. That's what's going. That's what's going to complicate all of this even more. The fact that, you know, people got to think about, damn, is there going to be no holiday season? I'm not able to buy my kids.

[Angela Yee]

Listen, we took a temperature check in the office and in a few states with our coworkers, we not even thinking about Thanksgiving or Christmas. A lot of us already had conversations.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

With our kids and we told them.

[Angela Yee]

Like, listen, this ain't going to be no Christmas this year. Like, I already canceled my Thanksgiving plans because it's like, it's no sight. You can't even see what you're about to do. So all of that is canceled. Like, we're not even thinking about that right now.

[DJ Envy]

That's Crazy.

[Angela Yee]

That's a sad part. But, you know, it is what it is.

[DJ Envy]

That's why I'm doubling, tripling up on everything. I already usually do, you know, I mean, resources to the food banks. You know, the turkey drives got to be, you know, two and two and three times what they've been in previous years. Like, you know, whatever you've been doing for your community, especially in regards to stuff like that, you really got to triple up if you got the means.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And it's so crazy because when people do the turkey drives, right, sometimes I don't want to say it gets boring, but people like, oh, you doing a turkey drive. But yeah, you see how much a turkey drive will help. You see how much having those foods and those vegetables will help. Like, people need to eat.

[DJ Envy]

Shut your doing nothing ass up. How about that? How about you? That don't never do nothing for your people. Shut the hell up. All right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Absolutely.

[DJ Envy]

Hello?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who's this? Hey, what's going on, Envy?

[DJ Envy]

What's up, Charmaine.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Good morning, Jeff.

[Angela Yee]

What's going to.

[DJ Envy]

Rick, what's up, brother? I'm good, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, Evie, it's good. It's good to see you in touch with your Caribbean roots. There's a lot of people in the hip hop game that have Caribbean roots, and, you know, we've contributed a lot to hip hop. But I want to talk about this morning that, you know, Jamaica is about to get hit by Hurricane Melissa.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I got a lot of family and friends there, and they're saying it's going to be the biggest storm they've ever experienced.

[DJ Envy]

I just want everybody to send some love and light out there because Jamaica.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And the Caribbean has contributed so much to hip hop over the years. I mean, the Notorious B.I.G. is, you know, Jamaican roots, Foxy Brown, Nicki Minaj, Busta Rhymes, and I mean, DJ Envy.

[DJ Envy]

So everybody send love and light, as you mentioned, because they need it right now, right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Not Jamaica. I'm Dominica. But he meant the Caribbean islands.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, I know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, Caribbean roots.

[DJ Envy]

You know, Caribbean roots. And I mean, I want everybody to.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Send some love and light out there.

[DJ Envy]

Right now because they're gonna need it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I mean?

[DJ Envy]

Yeah. Hurricane Melissa is category five right now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. They're saying Jamaica's might be unrecognizable after this hurricane hit. So. Yes, absolutely. Pray for Jamaica, pray for Cuba, pray for Haiti, Dominican Republic. Pray for all those places because it's. It could get nasty, man. So sad. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need the vent, you can hit us up now. We got Lauren LaRosa.

[DJ Envy]

Lauren, what up?

[Angela Yee]

Hey, good morning. Hey, Envy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, guys. There was one of us that missed their flight because they drank too much. Guess which one it was.

[Angela Yee]

First of all, I made it to where I needed to go.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, One of us missed the flight. I was downstairs.

[Angela Yee]

I made the next flight, and I made it to where I needed to go. God is good. Good morning, everybody.

[DJ Envy]

You drank that much?

[Angela Yee]

No, it was just my flight was at 6am and I didn't leave the party at Norfolk until like, 3.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We were banging on her door.

[Angela Yee]

I should have went right to the airport. I didn't think about that. I literally should have went right to the airport. I woke up the next day like, yo, we next time, we going straight to the airport.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I left the club at 12. She left at 3.

[DJ Envy]

One thing that we never did was miss a flight.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nope.

[DJ Envy]

Okay.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah. That was a rookie mistake. Yo, I was on that flight, so upset. But I made it and everything was fine. I flew in for. I went from Norfolk to Philly on Saturday, and I did a panel at my church with your church drunk? No, I was not drunk. I was very well fed and I was well rested and I was good. Nice. But yeah, so I made it. Thank you for trying to wake me up, though. It didn't work.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, we tried. All right, well, we got the ladies coming up. What we talking about?

[Angela Yee]

We do. Speaking of things over the weekend, Versus went down. No limit. Cash money. There is a lot to talk about. The return of versus.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, we'll get to that next. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Lauren becoming a street f. She gets.

[DJ Envy]

Them from somebody that knows somebody.

[Ryan Holiday]

She gets the details.

[Angela Yee]

I'm the home girl that knows a little bit about everything.

[DJ Envy]

She'd be having the latest on.

[Ryan Holiday]

The.

[DJ Envy]

Latest with Lauren LaRosa. Sometimes you have facts. Sometimes you have details. Sometimes you have a little bit of everything. Oh, it's the latest on the Breakfast Club.

[Angela Yee]

So Versus went down in Vegas over the weekend. There are reports that there were over 30,000 people in attendance for the complete complex con, which is where versus went down at. And versus happened between Cash money and no limit. This was the return of versus now in attendance for Cash money. And if there's any names I missed and y' all saw somebody I didn't see, call them out because there was a lot of people. So Birdman, Mannie Fresh, Juvenile bg, Tamar Braxton. No Turk and no Lil Wayne said.

[DJ Envy]

Tamar Braxton, like she was there with money. Like she was.

[Angela Yee]

She was there. She was on the stage and she was helping out Birdman.

[DJ Envy]

Okay, that's crazy.

[Angela Yee]

No, you did. I said no. Turk wasn't there. I was named people that were there.

[DJ Envy]

I know the fact you said Tamar before Turk.

[Angela Yee]

Oh, my God. Okay. And then in attendance for no Limit, you had masterpiece soak the shocker, Mia X and Kelly Price, Choppa and Mac. Anybody else?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And Tamar was on the. Yeah, she was on the cash.

[Angela Yee]

Kelly Price was there with me holding her down.

[DJ Envy]

F wasn't there.

[Angela Yee]

I thought F. Was there anybody you saw that I did not see? You're welcome to mention there was a lot of people. Romeo was there. Yes. Romeo was front and center. I'm sorry, Romeo.

[DJ Envy]

Yes. Romeo. An original little soldier.

[Angela Yee]

And Snoop Dogg popped out with no limit as well. Surprised the crowd. Now kicking off the verses. Cash Money kicked it off with 400 degrees. Let's take a listen, Jes. Yes. Straight out the gate. And then if I ain't a hot.

[DJ Envy]

Boy, then what are you calling?

[Angela Yee]

And then no Limit returns, their first song with no limit. Soldiers, let's take a listen.

[DJ Envy]

Cause I'm the hottest mother ever.

[Angela Yee]

A lot of the songs, y'.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All.

[Angela Yee]

Y' all know we can't say certain words on the radio. So a lot of songs we just, you know, trying.

[DJ Envy]

I don't even know how you score that. I'm gonna be honest with you. I don't even know how you score that round. How do you score 400 degrees versus that's a tie.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's a tie.

[DJ Envy]

I don't know if it's a ty. I just don't know how you score. I just.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They were both huge.

[DJ Envy]

It's not about huge. It's about cultural impact, like.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And they both had cultural impact. No Limit Soldiers was big and 500 was big too. They both had 400 impact.

[DJ Envy]

I don't know.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah, because I. I don't really resonate with the no limit Soldier. No Limit.

[DJ Envy]

Get ready. Because sports, culture and entertainment is colliding like never before. Wednesday at 10, 9 Central on BET is BET's all new series 106 in Sports. Hosted by NFL star Cam Newton and sports analyst Ashley Nicole Moss. 106 in Sports is where the biggest plays meet the biggest conversations. Each week, Cam and Ashley are counting down the top five moments everyone's talking about. From the most jaw dropping highlights on the field to the viral clips taking over the feed, to the culture shifts shaping fashion entertainment and black excellence. The Top five Countdown dives into all the game winning touchdowns, buzzer beaters, red carpet fits and headlines, making stories that define our culture. With Cam bringing an athlete's perspective and Ashley bringing an analyst's edge, they're breaking down every angle. The wins, the controversies and the unforgettable moments that keep us talking. Whether it's a wild play that broke the Internet or a championship celebration for the ages or the latest trends shaking up culture. If it's big, it's on 106 in sports. Whether it's stars like LeBron, Stephen Giannis and Durant making waves on and off the court, you know it's making the countdown. So tune in and join the conversation because it's where sports meets style, competition meets culture, and every moment matters. Don't miss the all new series on Wednesdays at 10, 9 Central on BET's 106 in sports. If you want to relive the countdown or catch what you missed, stream the next day on BET.

[Mimi Brown]

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[Angela Yee]

In the new podcast Hell in Heaven, two young Americans move to the Costa Rican jungle to start over. But one will end up dead, the other tried for murder. Not once. People went wild, not twice, stunned, but three times. John and Anne Bender are rich and attractive and they're devoted to each other. They create a nature reserve and build a spectacular circular home high on the top of a hill. But little by little, their dream starts to crumble and our couple retreat from reality. They lose it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They actually lose it.

[Angela Yee]

They sort of went nuts. Until one night everything spins out of control. Listen to Hell in Heaven on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I live below a cult leader and I fear I've angered her. Well, wait a minute, Sophia. How do you know she's a cult leader? Well, Dakota, luckily it's I'm not afraid of a scary story week on the ok Storytime podcast, so you'll find out soon. This person writes, my neighbor has been blasting music every day and doing dirt rituals, and now my ceiling is collapsing. I try to report them, but things. Things keep getting weirder. I think they may be part of a cult. Hold up, Sophia. A real life cult.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And what is a dirt ritual?

[Angela Yee]

No clue. But according to this person, contractors are tearing down the patio to find out what's going on with her ceiling and her neighbors are not happy.

[Ryan Holiday]

Well, she needs to report them asap.

[Angela Yee]

She did, and now they've been confronting her in really creepy ways all the time.

[Ryan Holiday]

So do we find out if this.

[Angela Yee]

Person survives their neighborhood cult or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the okay Storytime podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[DJ Envy]

Was the 90s. That's what people forget.

[Angela Yee]

And I was born in 92, so I'm not even. You know what I'm saying? Well, there was so there was a lot of back and forth of literally what you guys just did because, you know, they're going back and forth with the music. At one point, Birdman, you know, stopped and wanted to remind the crowd before he, you know, dropped his song that he started stunting. Let's take a listen.

[DJ Envy]

Fresh. Can I say something? I started this stunt. I started this jury. I'm the first with diamonds in their teeth. I'm the first with tattoos in their face. I started this stunt. Let's get it.

[Mike Keith]

Let's get it.

[DJ Envy]

Everybody. Put your ones in the air, man. Put your mother ones in the air. You know me. I don't need an introduction to this. Robin is on feeling all buttons. This all hanging wrist. Birdman said that. I thought to myself, oh, so you the problem? You're the reason all these people got tattoos on their face and spending all their money on jury.

[Angela Yee]

Well, it seemed like they was having.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Fun the whole time.

[Angela Yee]

Like, yes, it was a lot of fun. And I had a friend on the ground for us because I wanted to know what the crowd was like. And he said even in the it was a party in the crowd, like people going crazy. There were people there dressed in the fatigue at so then juvenile should have.

[DJ Envy]

Been in New Orleans, though. Las Vegas ain't deserved that.

[Angela Yee]

I felt like the crowd wasn't as hyped because they didn't really know most of the songs. So he said. And it was very. I mean, we kind of addressed this before it happened, though. He said it was very obvious what songs people knew. So, like, if back that, you know, a up comes, people are throwing it over. Oh, I didn't know back that ass up comes on. He said people throwing it over. They dancing with each other. Songs that people knew you really felt. But yes, the age gap did matter a bit. I think they tried to do the best they could with the cameras as well, but he said that they had a good time. Now Juvenile comes back in with a project chick and no backtrack whole time. Juvie is. Is performing throughout the whole verses. Let's take a listen to Juvenile, yo. That's how he performs all the time. I did a couple shows with Juvenile over the years. Oh, yeah. Like, he. Because, you know, they. They fuse the comedy shows with the, you know, hip hop or whatever. But like, you. And nobody can outrap juvy. Still rap like back in the day.

[Ryan Holiday]

That's what it is.

[DJ Envy]

When the music go off.

[Angela Yee]

He's still going. But look, I want to mention, even the entourage is, like, behind them. It's a bunch of young man. They were just on the phone, like, texting. Like, they could have been hype. I'd have been putting everybody off the stage. That was not hype. Jacques was hype.

[DJ Envy]

You can't even see him.

[Angela Yee]

You know, I saw Jacques and Juvenile, son. They were, you know, they were hype on a no limit side. I feel like they were all jumping and bouncing.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, yeah, the Mogs.

[Angela Yee]

I get what you said, right? Like, it was like they was on the stage. We're gonna have to bring this back in the next hour because as they closed out the. The verses, Birdman gave us a speech of sorts that now Turk has responded to.

[DJ Envy]

I don't care about the drama. Listen, it was too short, all right? It was way too short.

[Angela Yee]

It was way too short. But before we get out of here, I wanted to play Mia X responding to Project Chick with her. With Frico, because we didn't play any of her.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, yeah, Dropping the clues bombs for me.

[Angela Yee]

She was at work.

[DJ Envy]

They should have let me, an ex, get off. You don't go to war with a soldier. That would have been hard. They should have let her get off. I'll take your man. That would have been hard. Mia was dope though, Mia, Because Mia always was a show stealer, a song stealer with features. But they should have let her get off those. Those two records.

[Angela Yee]

I feel like a lot of people got to meet her because of this versus too. There was a lot of people that didn't know how dope she was. I saw LeBron post about her too. Yeah, like, there was. There was a lot of people who, like, got to meet her through this.

[DJ Envy]

I remember when that. Whatever that female list that came out this year, and I was like. One of the glaring omissions was me. X. And everybody was acting like I was crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It was two. It was me.

[Angela Yee]

I was introduced to me through this, through the verses.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How you ain't play about it. About it. You played number one. Stunning. But you ain't playing bad about it.

[Angela Yee]

I was. Look, we gotta pick and choose time here. We got more. We got 10 audios a day. It was a lot of music played at this versus and it was too short. It was too short.

[DJ Envy]

Ten rounds.

[Ryan Holiday]

Yeah.

[Angela Yee]

It got to the point where they.

[DJ Envy]

Only left on the table between both of them.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah, yeah. They could only play one verse from a certain. From certain songs at a certain. So it's rules with the verses like that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like you.

[Angela Yee]

You can only play well verse.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This one was 10 and 10. They only. Yeah, they only allowed.

[DJ Envy]

I wonder why.

[Angela Yee]

I know that. I don't know. I know that. The clips had a performance after the verses ended at Complex Con. My friends stayed for that as well. So I don't know if it. Maybe they were just trying to fit it into a certain time slot, but if so, they probably should have let them close out the night so they could have had a bit more time because it was. Y' all feel like this was forced time. Everybody was ready for this.

[DJ Envy]

It was like.

[Angela Yee]

It was a lot of hype.

[DJ Envy]

Or Saturday, you ain't get Wobble wobble. You ain't get. How you do that. You ain't get. I mean, I know you probably couldn't play, but you should have played Mystical, the man right here.

[Ryan Holiday]

They didn't even.

[Angela Yee]

Mystical. Wasn't there no Little Wayne.

[DJ Envy]

Go, DJ Juvenile. I got that.

[Angela Yee]

And they played the one Lil Wayne song, and people just stood around and people were like, where is Wayne?

[DJ Envy]

So, like, baby, what happened to that boy Wayne? Hustler's music. Both sides left so much music on the table.

[Angela Yee]

Yes, yes. So we'll be back in the next hour, but, yeah, it was great for what we got.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, well, that is the latest with Lauren. Now, when we come back, we got front page news with Mimi. So don't go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get back in some front page news. Quick sports, if you're into Major League Baseball, the World Series is happening right now. The Dodgers won last night, five to one. They tied the Series to one one.

[DJ Envy]

So when is Kendrick coming out to perform? Not like us, man. When is that happening?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Drake was at the game. I don't know, Kendra. I don't know if Kendrick saw him.

[DJ Envy]

No, Drake was at the game of Toronto. He ain't come to that game in la. No, he wouldn't do that one.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He wouldn't do that. Now in some quick sports, the Ravens beat the Bears. The Bills beat the Panthers. Patriots beat the Browns. The Buccaneers beat the Saints. The Broncos beat the Cowboys. The packers beat the Steelers. The Colts beat the Titans. The Eagles beat the Giants. The Texans beat the 49ers. And congratulations to the jets fans. You guys won your first game this year. They are now 1 7. One of our producers and bought out Red. He has his jets jersey on. He bought it eight weeks ago and this is the first time he works.

[DJ Envy]

Why Red? I just don't understand why, like, you gotta rep your team at all times. Like, I saw a guy yesterday wearing a Jets T shirt and I felt sorry for him, but I was still happy that he was repping.

[Ryan Holiday]

Yesterday I had a Jet City on.

[Mike Keith]

In the first half and I saw how bad the game was going on.

[DJ Envy]

I turned it off. God damn. And I saw the winner. Like, oh, man, I finally wear my jersey now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Tonight at Monday Night Football, the commanders take on the Chiefs at 8:15. What's up, Mimi?

[Mimi Brown]

Good morning, Embi. Jeff Charlemagne. How y' all doing?

[DJ Envy]

Blessed, black and highly favored. How you doing, Mimi?

[Mimi Brown]

Good, thank you. All right, so this morning we start this hour with development of the hurricane Melissa, now a powerful Category 5 storm packing winds of 160 miles an hour. Now, Melissa is expected to make landfall in Jamaica early Tuesday before moving onward to Cuba. Jamaica, they are already seeing heavy rainfall, tropical storm conditions, and forecasters warn of catastrophic flooding, landslides and destructive winds as the storm moves ashore. Mandatory evacuations are underway in low lying areas. Airports are closed and emergency shelters are open across the island. Cuba is also under hurricane warnings as officials there brace for impact later late Tuesday. The storm, it has already taken a tragic toll in Haiti and the Dominican Republic. In Haiti, landslides triggered by Melissa's Rain have killed at least three people and damage hundreds of homes. And in the Dominican Republic, flooding has cut off water to more than half a million people and forced evacuations as the storm barrels through northern Caribbean. So we'll continue to watch this.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So sad, man.

[Mimi Brown]

Absolutely. And moving back here at home in Pennsylvania where what was supposed to be a weekend of celebration turned into tragedy at one of the nation's oldest HBCUs. Authorities say 25 year old Juwan Jeffers of Delaware was killed in a shooting on the campus of Lincoln University late Saturday night. Six others, all between the ages of 20 to 25, were wounded but are expected to survive. Now, the shooting broke out just after midnight during homecoming celebrations outside their international cultural center. Chester county district officials say the violence. They believe the violence was not planned but erupted spontaneously. Let's listen to that.

[Ryan Holiday]

Investigators now are operating under the strong belief that there are multiple shooters at this event. We're operating under the belief that the shooter or shooters in this case did not come here with a specific design.

[Angela Yee]

To cause a mass casualty event.

[Ryan Holiday]

And so we're treating this as a.

[Mike Keith]

Shooting that broke out in the middle of homecoming weekend.

[Mimi Brown]

Well, one man. Yeah, it is one man. Zaquias Thompson Morgan, also from Delaware. He has been arrested and charged with carrying a concealed firearm without a license. He's being held on $25,000 bail. Police haven't confirmed whether his gun was used in the shooting. Now witnesses say it was a chaotic scene as crowds scattered in every direction. Let's listen to that.

[Angela Yee]

And then next thing you know, another stampede coming. But it was just like run. Like it was like more like you felt it in your, in your spirit. Like something was not. Something was happening that wasn't good. So I started running and then next thing I know, people getting shot. As soon as I walked here and I heard like five gunshots. They said somebody got shot in the head. We heard a minute. Everybody just started running. You know how people are like, as soon as you hear them, there's nothing to do but think run.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So you've ever been.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah.

[Mimi Brown]

You've ever been to a homecoming celebration? It's just like the crowds and just chaos. They said chaos erupted with people just running everywhere.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And like you said, if you ever been to homecoming, especially HBCU homecoming, that's one of the safest places to go. There's never another reason to bring a wedding weapon with you. Like, it's usually. It's always love. It's always love and having a good time and celebrating school and School spirit and just catching up with friends. And sometimes homecomings don't just bring alum, but it's never a place to bring a weapon. I've never felt unsafe at a homecoming ever.

[Mimi Brown]

Ever at all. Well, officials are asking anyone with photos or videos to contact the FBI tip line classes at Lincoln University, they have been suspended today and they say counseling services are being offered. And meanwhile, just a few hours away in D.C. another shooting taking place near the campus of Howard University. Police say five people were shot Friday night near the campus. Police say none of the victims were Howard students, although one did does attend Morgan State University. Two suspects are in custody, but authorities haven't released their names or said what led to that violence.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So that's crazy too. Salute to anybody that went to HBCU homecoming this weekend and condolences to anybody that lost somebody. Man, it's. I hate when you see something like a homecoming. And if you ever bring to an HBCU homecoming, you know what that love is. You know what that love feels like, whether it's a 80 year old alum to a 19 year old student. It's just so much great vibes and great feeling like you never want to see this.

[Mimi Brown]

You never want to see that. Absolutely envy. You're right. All right. And so we talked about this earlier last week. So while police paste together what happened overseas or there overseas, investigators are involving solving another type of crime. I'm talking about the one that we talked about with that jewel heist at the Louvre museum. Well, this morning two men are under arrest. French prosecutors say the suspects were taken into custody Saturday night. One of them were caught trying to board a flight to Algeria. Now, both men are in their 30s. They were already known to police. Investigators say DNA evidence left at the scene helped identify one of them. Officials haven't said whether any of the stolen pieces worth an estimated $102 million have been recovered. But we talked about this. The heist took less than eight minutes. They use a crane. They cut through glass, smash display cases and escape with priceless crown jewels linked to France's royal family and the Napoleon empire. France says that a hundred and more than 100 investigators are working on the case and they're trying to figure out how they pulled off such a brazen attack. Experts say that the jewels are historically priceless but could still fetch millions on the black market if broken. Broken apart.

[DJ Envy]

Wow.

[Mimi Brown]

Absolutely. All right. Well, also lastly, today is my son Landon's birthday. He turns 12, so I just want to wish him a happy birthday.

[Angela Yee]

Happy birthday, Landon. Yes. Thank you.

[DJ Envy]

How was your TED Talk this weekend too, Mimi?

[Mimi Brown]

It was so amazing. Thank you, Charlamagne, for asking. It was so amazing. Just being able to connect with the community in Altadena and just be amongst so many people who are still rebuilding and just doing the work was so great. So thank you. It was a really great time.

[DJ Envy]

Is it up on YouTube we can watch it?

[Ryan Holiday]

Not yet.

[Mimi Brown]

They said it's got to go through Ted and then Ted will put it up on their platform and all of that. So I will keep you guys posted on when it's. When it's on YouTube.

[DJ Envy]

Gotcha.

[Mimi Brown]

All right, well, thank you. Absolutely. That is your front page news. I'm Mimi Brown. Follow me at Mimi Brown tv. For more stories, follow the Black Information Network and Download the free iHeartRadio app or visit bin news.com now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

When we come back, Total Case and 112 will be joining us. They're on tour together and we're gonna talk about their tour. I think it's the room 112 tour. So we're gonna talk about them and everything that they got coming up. We're gonna talk about hip hop and music and R B history a little bit. All right. So don't go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Jess. Hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Lorna Rose is here as well. We got some special guests in the building.

[DJ Envy]

Come on. Now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We have 112 cheer. We have total, and we have Case.

[DJ Envy]

Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome.

[Angela Yee]

How are y' all doing? Great.

[Mimi Brown]

Guys.

[DJ Envy]

This is not a random link up. Y' all going on tour together.

[Angela Yee]

That's right, man.

[Mike Keith]

This is the beautiful 112, room 112 30th anniversary tour. We're so excited. Brought our brother Case and our sister's Total with us, so we know. Time to have a good time, man. First. First show is when? November 5th.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

5Th.

[Mike Keith]

November 12th. Stanford, Connecticut, Brooklyn is November 13th.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So there's some members missing. So are the members gonna be on tour or. This is the tour.

[Ryan Holiday]

Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This is the tour.

[DJ Envy]

Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay. Yeah.

[Angela Yee]

Nice.

[Ryan Holiday]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

My other members is coming.

[DJ Envy]

You by yourself? What Made now the right time for all of y' all to come together for this tour?

[Mike Keith]

Oh, that's a great question, bro. Honestly, manage it. It just felt right, it being 30 years, you know, us being in the game. So it just. It just made sense for us to just get out here and just show the fans that we really appreciate what they've been doing. You know, been rocking out with us for the last 30 years, man. So, you know, we're really excited about it, man. Like, we're managed total and 112 were managed by the same, you know, crew. So, of course, that was an easy, you know, decision to make with that. And then Case, you know, being, you know. That's the bro. Yeah, that's the bro. You know what I mean? And all of us having that catalog is definitely. We wanted to bring back that 90 nostalgia. You feel me?

[Angela Yee]

And all y' all still safe. Thank you. Thank you. That's, you know, not everybody doing it, but y' all can still sing.

[Mike Keith]

That's important.

[Angela Yee]

That's good.

[Mike Keith]

Yes, ma'.

[Angela Yee]

Am.

[DJ Envy]

How did y' all find that balance back in the day between being, like, sexy but strong but still street with it? Like, how did y' all find that balance?

[Angela Yee]

It was just natural.

[Mimi Brown]

Like, that's just who we are.

[Angela Yee]

I grown up Jersey, like, how we were, and that's what made us. To me, that's what made us who we were.

[Ryan Holiday]

Total.

[Angela Yee]

The name started out as total opposite because we were all individuals in our own way, you know, so it wasn't like you had to buy the brand. We came as we were.

[Mimi Brown]

We were the brand.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. Now, how was the Bad Boy era back then, growing up, right? Because There was a time 90s 2000s, it was nothing but bad boy on the radio, nothing but bad boy on the streets, mixtapes, the clubs. How was that era where it just. It felt like anything y' all did.

[Angela Yee]

Hit, It's a beautiful thing. It was fun. It was.

[Ryan Holiday]

Yeah.

[Angela Yee]

That's where we learned a lot of our grind from that whole era. Just grinding just out there. It was going to the Tunnel, like, it was just fun. It was just like a big old party.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yep.

[Mike Keith]

Yeah, that tunnel.

[Ryan Holiday]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was coming from Atlanta, you know what I'm saying? It like. It was a different. It was like a different culture. So, you know. You know, you can imagine how that felt. He's coming. I know he's from the south side, you know what I'm saying? So coming to New York culture was a shot, you know, so, you know, but. But it was so much fun because it was just like, okay, club smaller, but you know what I mean? But it was like in your face, so. You know what I'm saying?

[Angela Yee]

So we.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But we learned a lot musically here. What about for you, Case? Now, you weren't on Bad Boy. You were on Def Jam. You were songwriter. You had. You have the. I always say, you have that one Wedding song that you will get paid for for the rest of your life. Happily ever after. Yeah, let's hope.

[DJ Envy]

So.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That was coming up for you in that during that time. Because at that time, you were Def Jam. Def Jam was heavy hip hop. And you was probably one of the only R B singers at the time. I mean, it was. It was cool for me, except for the only problem, what they was learning on the fly how to do R B. And so I get caught up in that sometime. But yeah, I mean, you know how big they was then. So that part was cool. It was just a lot of times they had a lot of hip hop sensibilities because it's hip hop label. But one of the things that helped me was that I was the last artist that Russell personally signed to Def Jam. So I could always call him and be like, yo, I can snitch.

[DJ Envy]

Did you know them records was gonna be so timeless? Like, touch me, tease me, happily ever after?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I didn't know. But that's what I always wanted to do. Like, I never wanted to make like trendy stuff. I always wanted to make music. Like my parents would listen to stuff from like 20, 30 years earlier, and they would have me doing it. And so my thing was like, if I could do that, then I'd be happy and then everything else would fall in line.

[DJ Envy]

You worked with Mary J, Beyonce, Foxy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Brown, Foxy Brown, Usher.

[DJ Envy]

Usher.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who else? There's a bunch of people. Ll, Ghostface, Ghostface, Genuine Tyrese. Genuine Tyrese Jam and Lewis. I felt like Def Jam didn't treat you like a regular artist, right? With total and 112, I would see.

[DJ Envy]

Them out in the club.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, Bad Boy would have them out. Def Jam artists, Def Jam would have them out. I didn't see you. Def Jam put you out as much like that. Was it because you didn't want to go out?

[DJ Envy]

They probably didn't know what to do with him because he was R and.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

B. I think a lot of it. Yeah. First of all, I hate going out. Okay? So if I didn't have to be there, that's why you always be like.

[DJ Envy]

Yo, I hear a lot of stuff about you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because I know how to. Yeah, I'll be over here. So, yeah, I mean, I wasn't really big on going out or when I did, it'd be. I'd be somewhere else. Unless I had to be, you know, somewhere with them. Gotcha.

[Angela Yee]

Did you guys. Well, Mike, I saw you say that you feel like, you know, you guys first album without that, you don't think that R B would be at as prevalent or as worldwide as it is right now.

[Mike Keith]

So, yeah, the mind frame was we started that whole trend. It's like the way music sounds now. 112 had a lot to do with that because no one can really give us a group that did it the way that we did it before 112. Like as far as singing over hip hop beats and stuff like that, like you, I challenge anybody, find me a group that did it. Because back in the day, what, you had the A side and you had the B side, right? And then on the B sides of the records, right, they had the records, you had the up tempo records where they were singing, but they were always all that singing over up tempo beats and stuff. It was like, it was confusing. Puff one, one thing that Puff told us was like, when you're in the club, when you, when you're recording a record, right, Sing the song as if you're in the club drinking and you're trying to holla at a girl. You ain't gonna be in this girl.

[DJ Envy]

Talking about, yeah, right.

[Mike Keith]

You know what I mean? It's gonna be something smoother. So when we wrote records, when we wrote the up tempo records, and then Slim having the voice, being able to just lay on the tracks the way that we did, like, that started a whole everywhere people. Now, like, when you hear R B, it has a hip hop element to it as well. It's not just R B, it's a hip hop element.

[DJ Envy]

But isn't that the bad boy formula, though? Wasn't that Diddy? Like, I feel like Diddy did that like with Jodeci. I feel like he did that with Mary J. Blige. I feel like he did that with Total.

[Mike Keith]

I'll give you that. I'll give you Mary J. Blige, because, yeah, she. She helped. Because we always say that Mary is between Mary and 112, but 112, really? And then, yeah, Puff did, you know, he did contribute it because we came in, we R B. We aren't be, bro. Like, Forget all this stuff, man. Like hip hop that's gonna cheapen our sound and all this other stuff. And he's had the vision was like, yo, this is what's gonna separate y' all from the Drew Hills, from the jackets, from the, you know, the agits and all these other groups that were coming out at the same time.

[Angela Yee]

And you know what that is? That didn't make perfect sense, right? Instead, all right, I would love to.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Come up to me in A club.

[Angela Yee]

Let me tell you what you want.

[Mike Keith]

Exactly.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's exactly what it was.

[Mike Keith]

Nine times out of 10, ain't gonna be able to sing. So he's like, bro, all of that in my ear. Like, I don't want to hear all that.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah.

[Mike Keith]

You know what I'm saying? So that's.

[DJ Envy]

Do y' all agree with Mike's assessment? Not to start any arguments here, but, Case, do you agree with that?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I mean, it was. It was part of it. I mean, if that. During that area, that's when hip hop and RB was coming.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. So pretty much.

[DJ Envy]

And I feel like Bad Boy was at the forefront.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, definitely.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah. This total was hip hop with that touch of R B. We R B group, but I think we were more based hip hop with the touch of R B. And Mary definitely was the pioneer of that sound when Puff did the remixes with Jodeci. Cause Jodeci was just the R B. And then he brought the hip hop element.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah. Ghostface and Raekwon on the freaking you remix, you know, like, I can't even. I don't want to hear can't yout See without Biggie part. Like, I hate hated when some of the urban AC stations back in the day didn't play rap, just played R B. Oh, I hated that. Really?

[Ryan Holiday]

Right.

[DJ Envy]

Yes. Because they didn't want a lot of urban teams. Didn't play the rest.

[Angela Yee]

Truth.

[Ryan Holiday]

Yeah.

[Angela Yee]

You got play the record.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So how did y' all sign to Puff? When did y' all meet Puff? And Puff was like, this is the group that I want. How did that start? Because it's the first time you guys.

[Angela Yee]

We met Puffy through Kathy Dukes. Kathy Dukes.

[Mimi Brown]

Puff is.

[Angela Yee]

Was her son's it. What is her son's godfather.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[Angela Yee]

Kathy. One day, when. When we were introduced to Kathy, Kathy was like, I would love to represent y', all, manage y'.

[Mimi Brown]

All.

[Angela Yee]

So we ride and ride, and Kathy was like, y' all gotta always be ready. Always be ready. So she pulls up, she goes upstairs. She's like, I'll be right back. She comes downstairs, and she was like, okay, I need y' all to make up a song and put Puffy's name in it. Oh, yeah. At the time, Puffy's Puffy. He's actually in the studio with Jodeci doing the remix. So he comes downstairs, he introduces himself, and then we just start singing. But we're performing. Yeah, we, like, had them all backed up against the wall in the elevator. He was looking at us like he had his mouth open. He was like, how old are you? He asked our ages, came upstairs. We watched him, you know, direct Jodeci. And then he asked us how well did we get along in the studio. Like, if we had an argument, did we get back in the studio? And we were like, yeah. So he was like, okay. So he was like, yo, y', all, y'.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All.

[Angela Yee]

Y' all sound really good. He was like, yo, I just encourage y' all to keep doing what y' all doing, you know, don't let nobody break y' all up. Two o' clock that morning, he called Kathy. He was like, don't take them nowhere. I want to sign them.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What was the first song that y' all did? What was the first one y' all recorded?

[DJ Envy]

Well, we.

[Angela Yee]

We recorded songs that never went anywhere because we were just trying to find our sound. But can't you see no Juicy. Juicy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Juicy was the first record I did.

[Ryan Holiday]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Angela Yee]

The story behind how we wind up recording Juicy is like, Big was like our little big brother. Like, we were close with Big, so we would frequently be in New York hanging out in the studio with him. So he called us one day. He was like, come to the city. We was in this. He was in the studio. So we went to the studio, and he was playing Juicy. Keisha started humming something Big. He was like, y' all should go in there and put that down. So he, you know, just gave us some words or whatever, and we went in there and we put it down. And Puff had us come back the next day and do the One More Chance song. So that's how it started.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I never knew all Juicy. I never knew that.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah, there's an original One More Chance. The one on the album is different from the ones with the.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

With the voicemail in the front.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah, we need to work on that. Juicy. It says it now when you Google.

[Mimi Brown]

It, but I assume that it wasn't necessary.

[Angela Yee]

Supposed to been a feature for me.

[Mimi Brown]

Because it was his first single and stuff like that.

[Angela Yee]

So. Yeah, and we were new, you know, we were new. I don't think it was something that just happened. Like, we was in the studio and we got in trouble. Our manager was like, don't do that no more. But I just think they didn't plan for it to be Biggie's first album to have a feature on it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Did y' all get writing credits for that or. No?

[Angela Yee]

No, because Big wrote it.

[DJ Envy]

I mean, I didn't know y' all was on Juicy album. And we know those records verbatim. The One More Chance Dirty version is like one of my favorite records.

[Ryan Holiday]

Records.

[DJ Envy]

Wow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And can't you see. How did can't you see come together?

[Angela Yee]

We just came to the studio and the track was playing and we were like, oh, snap. And then Terry Robinson. What was the group that Terry was?

[Mimi Brown]

The girls.

[Angela Yee]

Young Terry Robinson. She's so incredible as far as songwriting. And she came, she was like, this is. This is what it is. Okay.

[Ryan Holiday]

Verse.

[Angela Yee]

I like that verse. She liked that verse. Like that verse. We went, recorded it and it. It was just. What it was, was. No, no, Big wasn't on it. He was in the studio and then he came in and laid it down. Yeah, it's crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wow, that's crazy.

[Ryan Holiday]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Did y' all enjoy the moment of the 90s? Because when I look at y', all, it's like y' all are like mythical figures to me, right? Like, you know what I'm saying? Because y' all defined not just a genre, but like, y' all would have soundtracked it a lot our lives. Did y' all enjoy the moment?

[Angela Yee]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, yeah.

[Angela Yee]

Yes, absolutely. We had a lot.

[DJ Envy]

Yes, sir.

[Mike Keith]

Listen, when they said Bad Boy was in the building, I mean, we were on a high.

[Angela Yee]

I mean, you couldn't ask for a better label, you know, and a place to be. And especially like aspiring artists, when this is something that you dream of doing to land on Bad Boy and I do. We remember the time clearly when it. Bad boy was everywhere. Bad Boy. It was nothing to just walk in a club or walk anywhere and just get that love, admiration and respect.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like it was black leather.

[Mike Keith]

They were wearing black leather. You know, we wearing, you know, the headbands. Everybody's doing like we were. It was. It was deeper than the music.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, it was. It was a full blown culture.

[Mike Keith]

It was a.

[Angela Yee]

It was a movement and we loved each other. Yeah. And we still do in each other's sessions.

[Mike Keith]

The how the record got together. Like. Like we tell the story of how we. We were on Big. Like if you look at. Listen to Life after death, right? 112 is all like, big. He shouts us out throughout the whole album. That's because we were in the studio with him. Like, so Daddy's house had the Neve, the SSL and the. In the pre production room, right? So 12 is in the pre production room. Junior mafia, big is all in the. The neighborhood. Seeds come out and says, yo, Big wanna holler at y'.

[DJ Envy]

All.

[Mike Keith]

So we go in there from here up. Weed smoke, right? So we can't see when nobody said so. We build Around. So Big is just sitting there, right?

[Ryan Holiday]

And.

[Mike Keith]

And we use this all that. We use the word genius. We throw the word genius out a lot. But this is true definition of genius, right? So we walking in, Big cs, He said, yo, what up? And that's it. He says nothing else, right? So everybody else, Junior mafia, they moving around. Everybody's laughing. Everybody's smoking, having a good time. Everybody's drinking, you know, 12. We baked out our minds because we don't smoke. We bake, right? So around two, three hours later, Big's like, yo, I'm ready. And the engineer's like, ready for what? So dude gets up, going to the booth, and does. I got a story to tell. So the part was my 112 CD blast. Cause we were in the room with him. So he's listening to everybody's story, and he's listening to Junior Mafia tell that story. 112, tell that story. And then he goes in there, doesn't write anything down. And that's where the genius is. Like, we. We saw that firsthand. Like, this dude never wrote anything. Him and Faith. Like, Faith doesn't write anything down either. Like, so.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Faith don't write.

[Mike Keith]

Faith don't write anything down.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Jesus.

[Mike Keith]

Yeah, Faith don't write anything down. We watched her. Do you abandon me? Love don't live where we was at. What's the other studio, bro, I forget what is. Yeah, she was a hit factory. Well, doing that record with Mary J. Blige.

[Angela Yee]

And she.

[Mike Keith]

She just went in there and just did the whole thing without no. I'm like, yo, where the paper? Yeah, she don't need no paper or marker. Nothing.

[Angela Yee]

Like, just singing from life.

[Mike Keith]

Are the only two I've ever seen.

[Angela Yee]

I got a story to tell. Just straight came to him. He went after just hearing everybody.

[Mike Keith]

He's watching everybody tell their story, like. And he's almost like Kai's associate.

[Angela Yee]

Bro.

[Mike Keith]

He kind of associate the hell out of that record.

[DJ Envy]

They said him and Jay Z the only people that do that.

[Ryan Holiday]

Oh, yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, tip do that.

[Mike Keith]

Don't write nothing down there.

[Angela Yee]

That is a gift for sure.

[DJ Envy]

Back in the day, it's like R B used to celebrate, like, love and heartbreak, but now, like, the. It feels transactional.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah, right.

[DJ Envy]

What do y' all think made vulnerability cool back then?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It was just a time period where, you know, where everything was going on in the world. We used music as our getaway. It was our medicine. You know what I'm saying? Anybody remember the 90s when we came to the club?

[DJ Envy]

We came anywhere.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Everybody came to party, to dance, you know what I'm saying? You know, now you go and you go into places. I don't know how it is too much here in New York as much. But I know in Atlanta, everybody's staring at each other. It's everywhere now they're on the phone, you know, and it's like it's a different type of a feel. So, you know, so unless it's homecoming, if it's homecoming, okay, that's true. But regular clubs is. But even when you say that, you know, it's us and they're cranking it up, you know what I'm saying? So, you know, yeah, back then R.

[Mike Keith]

And B was kind of, it was more hyperbolic, you know what I mean? It was, it was you, you know good damn. Well, we're not climbing no highest mountain, swimming no deepest sea. But we gave you the opportunity.

[DJ Envy]

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[Mimi Brown]

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[Angela Yee]

In the new podcast Hell in Heaven Two young Americans move to the Costa Rican jungle to start over. But one will end up dead, the other tried for murder not once. People went wild, not twice, stunned, but three times. John and Anne Bender are rich and attractive, and they're devoted to each other. They create a nature reserve and build a spectacular circular home high on the top of a hill. But little by little, their dream starts to crumble and our couple retreat from reality. They lose it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They actually lose it.

[Angela Yee]

They sort of went nuts. Until one night everything spins out of control. Listen to Hell in Heaven on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I live below a cult leader and I fear I've angered her. Well, wait a minute, Sophia, how do.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know she's a cult leader?

[Angela Yee]

Well, Dakota, luckily it's I'm not afraid of a scary story. We on the OK Storytime podcast so you'll find out soon. This person writes, my neighbor's been blasting music every day and doing dirt rituals and now my ceiling is collapsing. I tried to report them, but things keep getting weirder. I think they may be part of a cult. Hold up, Sophia. A real life cult?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And what is a dirt ritual?

[Angela Yee]

No clue. But according to this person, contractors are tearing down the patio to find out what's going on with her ceiling and her neighbors are not happy.

[Ryan Holiday]

Well, she needs to report them asap.

[Angela Yee]

She did, and now they've been confronting her in really creepy ways all the time.

[Ryan Holiday]

So do we find out if this.

[Angela Yee]

Person survives their neighborhood cult or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Mike Keith]

We're not doing all of that. But we gave you the impression. We sung it and made you believe that that was possible, if anything was possible.

[Ryan Holiday]

And.

[Mike Keith]

And nowadays, man, it's just. It's different. The music is. Is. Is too.

[Angela Yee]

And we came from good music, from our parents.

[DJ Envy]

Exactly.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what I was about to say, too. I think the other thing that did. It was hip hop became more hyperbolic. Definitely a good word for that. But when it merged with R and B so much, it became not cool to have feelings. But I guess that's how people felt. And then the strip club, club culture got involved with it. So everything is that. And I always say that, like, with everything that's going on in world, in people's lives, you gotta be able to sing about something more than threesomes in the strip club.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

There's something else going on. You know what I'm saying? And nobody really does that. Well, I won't say nobody, but a lot of the music doesn't have that no more. They don't have the feelings. They don't have the vulnerability. Like you said, it's all trying to.

[Mike Keith]

Be rappers, all the singers trying to be rappers.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And a lot of that is technology.

[DJ Envy]

But it's so crazy because even the rappers back there, most of the rappers back then, we. We loved them because they were vulnerable. You love Pac because he was vulnerable. You love Big because he was vulnerable.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The Kanye because he was. Because he's vulnerable.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Ryan Holiday]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

How do y' all balance egos, you know? You know, when you're dealing with three legendary acts who all had their individual moments.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[DJ Envy]

You know, it's.

[Mike Keith]

It's a respect level.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Mike Keith]

You know what I mean? It's like. Because I'm actually fans.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. Actually fans.

[Angela Yee]

I love that.

[Mike Keith]

And I know it sounds cliche or whatever, but it's the truth. And, you know, we so often we don't tell the truth. You know, we get in this type of form or whatever, but we are genuinely like. Total was our first pick to be on this room 112 tour. Case was our first pick to be on this because Case, his catalog. We just spoke about his catalog. Ridiculous.

[DJ Envy]

Total.

[Mike Keith]

Ridiculous. 112. Ridiculous. And we wanted to bring back that 90s nostalgia, you know, and just bring back that whole era of I knew where I was when I heard Only youy for the first time.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, my God.

[Mike Keith]

You know, I knew where I was when I heard Cupid. When I heard I'm missing you or when I heard can't you see for the first time, like, I remember where I was when I heard these rappers.

[DJ Envy]

Not where I was supposed to be.

[Angela Yee]

Where I was.

[DJ Envy]

Supposed to be go.

[Angela Yee]

When I was done.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think that ego is healthy on the tour, especially like this, because you have to.

[DJ Envy]

You.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

If you use it the right way, like, for me, it's like, okay, I'mma try to kill everybody, and then they going to feel the same way. And then the fans, the one that.

[DJ Envy]

Win, as opposed to people who just.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Go up there don't care. Like, I just got to check.

[Angela Yee]

We come from that.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, you got it. That's what I'm saying.

[Angela Yee]

We come from that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Can we do our tour and be.

[Angela Yee]

Like, total 112 just killed, y'.

[Ryan Holiday]

All.

[DJ Envy]

That's how you got to do it. Okay.

[Angela Yee]

That's how you got to do it.

[Mike Keith]

To threaten us all the time.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And that's. That's the only people that win is the fans.

[Angela Yee]

Was there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Was there ever a low time for y'?

[Angela Yee]

All?

[Mike Keith]

Yeah, it definitely was. I think for us, the resurgence of the 90s, you know, was. Was something that was what we appreciated more than anything. And that happened about what, maybe almost like, six, seven years ago.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, it was like, what the pandemic. You didn't know when you. You didn't know what the state of music and how the industry and how we were going to perform was going to be. Remember, everybody started experimenting with the whole, you know, taping, you know, and then video. It was just. Yeah, I thought we were gonna just. It's gonna be that, you know, so. So much gratitude now to, you know, I mean, see it for where it is, and. And we feel like it's a blessing that of all the errors they chose to pick, they picked the 90s, right? You know what I'm saying? So thank you.

[DJ Envy]

I would want to go back just to explain. I really want to experience it in New York. Like, oh.

[Angela Yee]

You laughed at me. That was crazy. I think that one time you laughed at me. Go back in time. I just feel like the. The time that you guys were like. Like the top, it was such a good time here. It doesn't seem real, like, when we hear the stories or, like, I'm just sitting here listening to y' all talk about just walking in the studio. Big Biggie's just there and, like, you know, I can'. Stories being young and just being, like, on top. Yeah, like, in that time, but you're.

[Mike Keith]

Working so hard that you don't even realize it, you know, like, you don't even realize what it took us to step away from it, you know, and. Okay, we can use it as our downtime, you know, and say that that was the time for us to go back and look at it and say, man, we did more than just sing, you know, we contributed to a culture. Like, we are part of history. You know, we're part of history.

[DJ Envy]

Define the culture. Yes.

[Mike Keith]

So that was amazing. It's looking at it now, being older. Like, you're looking at it now. Because my kids now, they're. They're going back and they Googling like, dad, y'.

[DJ Envy]

All.

[Mike Keith]

Y' all did pieces of cream. My kid. No, because I don't go around. I don't. I don't go around. Hey, look at Mike. You know, I don't. I don't do that. You know, I like, they. They just. They grew up as normal as I. I hoped I could because I could teach them to be. Because it's such a mental, you know, strain that the industry takes. Like, it gives, but it also takes. One of the things is, you know, the. The lack of, you know, the mental health that comes along. You know what I'm saying? With that? Because you're. You're inundated with all of this. You know, you have to be perfect every time that you see you. You're out.

[DJ Envy]

You all.

[Mike Keith]

Your face has always got to be right, right? Your clothes got to always be right, or. Oh, man, they don't fell off, bro. Like, I just came from the gym.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, But I think the camera messed up that up. The camera messed it up, cuz when, like, the reason I asked him if he was out is I would see everybody out, right? I was a kid growing up, so I would go to Grand Tomb and see y' all on 125th Street. I would go to the tunnel and see y' all in the tunnel and different things. And there was no VIP area. Like, that's what it was. And it gave you a connection with the artist, but there was no phone, so it was no, I'm taking a picture, right? The only thing that you would possibly do if you want, and nobody wanted to look corny, but you might ask for an autograph. But nobody wanted to come to the club and do that. So it gave you. You enjoy the moment. And I feel like people are not enjoying the moment.

[Angela Yee]

And I'm like, I never went live, ever went live on Instagram, and I wasn't expecting this. Beyonce came out, and she just started speaking. I'm on live. I'm like, I'm on live, y'. All. This is B. And she started speaking, and I started crying. I was not expecting. I was like, okay, guys, I gotta go. Literally, I might have been filming for, like, 10 seconds. You gotta be in the moment because it's an experience. You know what I mean?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Watching it back is not the same.

[Angela Yee]

No, it's not.

[DJ Envy]

I want to ask Keisha, and Kima, back in the day, what made y' all decide to go up to the radio station and press Wendy Williams? Like, what did she say to y' all that that caused y' all say, you know, we gotta go see her.

[Angela Yee]

Were you there?

[DJ Envy]

No. Hell, no. You were gone? No. Way before my time. Okay, that was the 90s, right?

[Angela Yee]

Yeah. Out the window. Were you the one that runs in the window? She just, you know, and she was playing with our money.

[Mimi Brown]

She just was disrespectful.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah. And we had already sent a warning.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah.

[Angela Yee]

And then she just kept saying, like, first Wendy was just like, oh, she got some broke. And then we came up. We came up to the radio station, we sang. She was like, oh, we sang acapella. She was like, oh, y' all can sing. And it was that. It was just like, oh, they're Jersey, and I hear that they can't pay rent, and they can't pay their rent and stuff. And we were like, you know what? Enough is enough. Because at that time, that's all she doing. It's like, listen, you know, when we get these opportunities as black artists, we gotta uplift them and talk about the positivity that they do. Right. Instead of you, You. You give a moment, a blitz of something that they did positive, and then something that happened negative. You playing that all day?

[Ryan Holiday]

Yeah.

[Angela Yee]

So we were just like, enough is enough. Kima was like, puff, can we go up there, period?

[Ryan Holiday]

Cause I didn't.

[Angela Yee]

You know. I know. Know, politically, we would have been in trouble if we just went up there. So we asked permission, and he didn't say no. He was like, go ahead. What is that that you had to say? And she was like, what? No, no, no. Talk that stuff right now. And then her. Her husband at the time, security, he had said something to our security, like, come on, man.

[DJ Envy]

Come on.

[Angela Yee]

And she ran to the car. She got in the car and stuck the middle. Finished finger out the sunroof. Out the sunroof. And then we never heard no more. More from her.

[DJ Envy]

No, she just tells the story. You say y' all sent her a warning. Was y' all the one that sent the fish No.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't really want. She was a death year. Boss sent that dead fish in the mail.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, somebody said that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

With the fishes. Yeah, he said that. She said that diff. That was Boston. And it happened around the time when I just signed and I just met her. Shout out to her, too. She passed a few years ago, but. Yeah, I didn't even know about that. Wendy used to. I can't say nothing about Wendy because she would find out stuff about me, but she never. She would call me and be like, look, this was I'm hearing. And she would send me the faxes. I don't know why she looked out for me. I'm glad she did. Because some of it. Some of it was dead on. No, I hope not. Not a crush on me, right?

[DJ Envy]

But the reason I missed that error, though, is because y' all was able to pull up on people. Nowadays, people just be in their basement behind the computers talking crazy. You know what I'm saying?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's the worst Internet, though.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Got so many questions. I know you got to go. Appreciate it. I just. I just got to ask one more. I'm sorry. Did no one else beat. Were y' all confused when y' all first heard that beat?

[Angela Yee]

No.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No. Cuz there was snares all over that place.

[Angela Yee]

Well, you. We did not know what was going to be put over it.

[DJ Envy]

Okay.

[Angela Yee]

Because that was Terry. Once again, Terry Robinson. It's like, how you going to write over this?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what I said when I heard.

[Angela Yee]

When we heard it, we went crazy. Yeah, it's one of our favorites. It hit so hard. If we could just get all of those acts on the stage one day, we going to stay hopeful. Yeah, it is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That joke is crazy. All right, well, thank you guys for joining us. 112.

[Angela Yee]

Get them tickets.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Let's get to the latest with Lawrence.

[DJ Envy]

Lauren.

[Angela Yee]

Lauren becoming a straight thing.

[DJ Envy]

She gets them from somebody that knows somebody.

[Ryan Holiday]

She gets the details.

[Angela Yee]

I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything.

[DJ Envy]

She'll be having the latest on the beans. The Latest with Lauren LaRosa. Sometimes you have facts. Sometimes you have details. Sometimes you have a little bit of everything. Oh, it's the latest on the Breakfast Club. Talk to me.

[Angela Yee]

All right, so there was a moment at the end of the verses with Cash Money no Limit where they were wrapping up. And Manny Fresh gave. Birdman tried to get Master P to come back on stage two, but Master P didn't come back out. They gave, you know, The CEO some time to just talk about how epic the night was. Let's take a listen to Birdman.

[DJ Envy]

This started with me and my brother Stunner in a little small ass house and we knew it was gonna change the world and we changed the world. Cash money forever.

[Angela Yee]

You heard me.

[DJ Envy]

When I met Blood, I just was trying to do something different in the gang. I started this young trying to get some money and not be in the streets. I met bg. I met Wayne. I met juvie. I met Turk. Shout out to Turkey Little, you ain't here. But you we gonna with you and.

[Angela Yee]

We won't with you.

[DJ Envy]

Okay. We lost a lot of soldiers. Cash money ain't gonna never die. Long as I'm alive, cash money ain't gonna never die. Shout out to my NBA young boy. NBA risking. Who don't like it?

[Angela Yee]

All right.

[DJ Envy]

With all the. If you ain't with us.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah. So that's how they close it out. Now Turk has since responded and actually Turk was hosting a watch party for the verses in Houston and he was live on his YouTube channel. And then he did a follow up video where he was talking directly to Birdman. Let's take a listen to Turk.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Birdman, I didn't think you dissed me.

[DJ Envy]

Or none of that, but you did put a 10 on one with it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I'm saying?

[DJ Envy]

You say said we with you when we won't.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's all the way, all the way wrong.

[DJ Envy]

Y' all can't with me when y' all won't. You know y' all can with the.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Fans when y' all want.

[DJ Envy]

Because at the end of the day.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Y' all not stopping my bag.

[DJ Envy]

I can't control what nobody else got going on.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So I don't trip about that. You ain't gonna see me going off.

[Ryan Holiday]

Nah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The fans not getting what they supposed to have. If it wasn't for the fans, none.

[DJ Envy]

Of us will be who we is is you put the bag up. But it wouldn't be no situation if.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It wasn't for us all putting down.

[DJ Envy]

And doing what we do as a whole.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Everybody contributed.

[DJ Envy]

I have accepted what it is. When you spoke, you spoke for y'. All. Turk is absolutely correct. You know, I mean, what Turk said is true. It's all about the fans. And Turk, he also said something like the reason Wayne wasn't there was because Wayne said if all of them aren't there, he's not coming.

[Ryan Holiday]

Yeah.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

If that's the case, Birdman should have swallowed his pride and let Turk be There because nobody is bigger than the program. A lot of people were disappointed that Wayne wasn't there. And I saw people criticizing Wayne for not being there. But if Wayne is standing on the fact that I wasn't there because it's not all of us there, I respect it. And Turk is 100% right.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah. And he also. Turk also in this YouTube video, talked about the fact that. Cuz he had said in an earlier live, which is the one that you're talking about, Charlotte, that. That the. He felt like no limit one and people took that as like shade. But he explains it here and he says that he feels like they won because of them being able to get together. Let's take a listen.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I feel like last night, man, the fans lost a lot of people try to make things be about them. I read when the fans be, man.

[DJ Envy]

Keep your head up, do this, keep going. We rocking with you. That mean a lot to me. I went dead almost a decade in the penitentiary. And you know who stood down with me? It was my wife and my fans.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

People got to understand, bro, that if.

[DJ Envy]

People lose, it's the fans, bro. Bro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I feel like no limit.

[DJ Envy]

No Limit came and they did what they needed to do for the fans. And to me, that's why they went. You know, they put their differences to.

[Angela Yee]

The side for the fans. Yeah. So, I mean, look, hopefully maybe one day that'll happen. It'll get it together. Because when I did see them in New Orleans and they were all together, it felt really, really good. And you could tell that they were all happy to be together, including Lil Wayne. So, yes, that is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

People forget this is a celebration of music versus it's a battle. But it's also a celebration of music. Music. And I think I'm a fan. I would have loved to see them all together and really performing all those songs together.

[DJ Envy]

But that's why it's true. It's all. All about the fans. And that's. That's why it's three big questions for me from Versus, why was it so short? Right. Because the fans definitely got from that only being 10 rounds when it's usually 20.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yep.

[DJ Envy]

I want to know why wasn't Wayne there officially? Is what Turk said true?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why wasn't in New Orleans?

[DJ Envy]

Well, yeah, we know Complex Con wasn't in New Orleans and. And you said it's a celebration of music. Right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right.

[DJ Envy]

So was not playing Mystical's music intentional? Because Mystical's music was a big part of no Limit. And if it's just a celebration of music we should be able to play.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But he wasn't there to perform.

[DJ Envy]

Right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, I mean, it would have been odd just to play his music kind of when they played. And it was odd.

[Angela Yee]

It was crickets. And people were like, wait, is happening right now?

[DJ Envy]

Probably cuz a Millie didn't fit the vibe I'd have played. Go dj.

[Angela Yee]

I really.

[DJ Envy]

You know what I'm saying? Go DJ would have fit the that vibe better than a Millie.

[Angela Yee]

And Manny Fresh could have rocked out with that a little bit more. Cuz it's like they played it and they all just kind of took an intermission because they didn't have any other but to. But I'll get an answer to those questions. Anything Wayne is about, that's why to me, I'm like, man, like, people would really. They really want to see all y' all together. It's like it's history. But also, it does feel like more of a celebration when you see them all united and on stage together. As we wrap really quick, I did want to shout out Brandy and Monica. They returned back to Chicago. They were able to fully get through the tour this time. Uh, they brought Maya out on stage as well. Yeah. And that was everywhere as well too. But we have Brandi apologizing to the fans in Chicago for the last time when she would, you know, she had to leave the stage. Let's take a listen. We love you guys from the bottom of our hearts. I just wanted to take a moment and apologize. I have to. I wasn't feeling well and I just. I just wanted to apologize and I'm so happy to be here.

[Ryan Holiday]

There.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah, that's all y'.

[DJ Envy]

All.

[Angela Yee]

Give it up one more time for the.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Now. Was that a schedule stop or did they go back because she left?

[Angela Yee]

I think they went back right. Cuz they were done their shows, weren't they? No, no, no. That the. The weekend that we covered was their first weekend. I'm saying that they were done in Chicago. Oh, yeah. I mean, I thought it was a scheduled show. I thought it was a scheduled show. And I. I know Maya coming out was a surprise, but I was a scheduled show. I just thought it was nice that she took a moment and, you know, when Maya came out, we do have audio, but the crowd is going so crazy you can barely hear Maya.

[DJ Envy]

That's good.

[Angela Yee]

I mean, we could play it, but I don't know how well it's going to sound on there. But yeah, it was a big moment for them. So shout out to them. You know, getting through this Second stop. And great to see all the, you know, people on stage this weekend and doing what they love. I grew up to. I grew up to Maya, Brandy, Monica, Kelly. Like hell. Yeah. Yes. Well, that's it for this hour. The latest.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All righty. Thank you, Lauren. Now we got donkey today. Sh. Man, who we giving you donkey to, man?

[DJ Envy]

You know, every day of our lives we say we wish it would when it comes to our children, but what happens when it actually does happen? Is it worth it? We'll discuss for after the hour.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, we'll get to that. Next, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[DJ Envy]

With the donkey ready, it's time for.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Donkey of the day.

[DJ Envy]

A bunch of donkeys around here with the hehawk. Yes, you are a donkey. What the hell? Some donkey today's just saw himself.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, man. Charlemagne. Who you giving donkey to do tonight?

[DJ Envy]

Wow. Donkey of the day for Monday, October 27th goes to 43 year old David Scott Jr. Now I get on this radio every day and tell you all to do your jailbreak math. Okay? Your jail math is when you find yourself in a situation and you have to calculate whether or not you can afford to do whatever time you will have to do if you react a certain way to said situation. Okay? Everything has to be calculated, all right? The money you will spend on bail if you even get one. The money you will spend on a lawyer. Can you even afford the time it will take to be arrested, processed, detained, etc. Etc. You have to make all these calculations in your head before you make make certain decisions. Now, some of us have decided that if someone ever harms our kids in any way, we going to jail. And I too am in that number. Okay? But what I need us parents to understand is there is levels to reacting. Okay? Is one to before you harm somebody being the highest. All right? Our kids are worth it all, but everything doesn't require you to take it to 1 to 10. Okay? Case in point, the story of David Scott Jr. From East Point, Michigan. All right, he was arrested after he allegedly threatened to shoot up in elementary school because they was playing in his child's face. I can't make this kind of stuff up. Let's go to what's the ABC 7 Detroit for the report, please.

[Mimi Brown]

Police say a parent at Pleasant View.

[Angela Yee]

Elementary School got so upset that his.

[Mimi Brown]

First grader didn't get snack time Wednesday that he made threats to staff members.

[Angela Yee]

During child pickup, who allegedly confronted the teacher and stated words to the effect of.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Of.

[Angela Yee]

I'll air this out and I'll Be back tomorrow. That suspect, 43 year old David Scott Jr. Shaking his head at the allegations.

[Mimi Brown]

In court Thursday for his arraignment, he.

[Angela Yee]

Pleaded not guilty and his bond set at $150,000 cash surety due to a criminal past. On Thursday, police added extra patrols to the area and the school had only.

[Mimi Brown]

Indoor recess as an additional precaution.

[Angela Yee]

But that child's mother tells me there's more to this story. Tykeisha Watkins says their son has been coming from school hungry for weeks, overwhelmed by loud noises.

[Mimi Brown]

Sometimes he'll skip lunch, so snack time.

[Angela Yee]

Is sometimes the only time he has to eat.

[Mimi Brown]

So he's been coming home hungry, hungry.

[Angela Yee]

But the school district told me there.

[Mimi Brown]

Is no official snack time While the mother wasn't there at pickup Wednesday. She does not believe the allegations against Scott Jr.

[Angela Yee]

I mean, yes, we get upset as parents and certain things could have been said, but I don't know. I do not believe that that came out of his mouth.

[DJ Envy]

Guess what, Racist.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I got this one.

[DJ Envy]

Shut up. No. Okay, okay. Don't act like they don't be appropriating our culture too. You don't know. Go ahead and answer this. Okay? Now I did look it up on Urban Dictionary though, okay? Just to be sure. And Urban Dictionary says airs this bitch out is a term used by Gangsters are really mad hood people with guns. Okay? The example Urban Dictionary uses is. Is Jamal, man, f this. I'm finna ed this out. Juanita. Damn you right. Let me grab my nine. It's safe to say that Urban Dictionary is ran by people who wouldn't be considered urban, okay? By the way, I hate the term urban, but that site is clearly not ran by anyone from culture. Now, David Scott Jr. Is saying he didn't say this, okay? I don't know if he did or not, but whatever he said was enough to get him arrested. And I just want my brothers to know that we don't always have to take it to there, okay? Whatever there may be. And I also understand that this is a lot of us brothers, first time being fathers. And there is no manual for this thing. But this is why smart people learn from their own mistakes and wise people learn from the mistakes of others. We must learn from David Scott Jr. Okay? You don't have to threaten the teacher. You don't have to threaten to shoot up the school. None of that. All right? Calmly, calmly. Request a meeting, okay? Request a meeting with the teacher or school administration to discuss your child. Child not receiving a snack. Because when you in this private setting, okay? Emotions are less heightened. All right? The teacher in school can explain the snack policy or the fact that they may not have a snack policy. Then both parties can find a solution. Okay? This approach reduces conflict, it opens up communication and it's just always good to have a witness around so nobody can say you said something you didn't. Okay? Another thing you can do, just always feel free to gather information, all right? Policy review, all right? That is very important. Sometimes we just assume wrongdoing. But maybe David should have checked to see if the school has an official snack policy and then you would know that his child isn't actually missing snack time. They just don't, you know, have a snack policy. Okay, but that's why you should always make a formal complaint. That's another thing that you could do, all right? Write or submit a formal concern to the principal or school district. All of these things are better than making alleged public threat, okay? Because now you in jail, away from your child and now you gotta fight a case, all right? Money that could be going to your child's future is going to keeping you out of prison. This brother was charged with possession of ammunition by a prohibited person.

[Ryan Holiday]

Okay?

[DJ Envy]

That's a five year felony, all right? Or a five thousand dollar fine. He's also charged with an intentional threat to commit an act of violence at a school. That's a misdemeanor. One thousand dollar fine, disorderly. I've seen contact. And he's a habitual offender because this is his fourth offense. Three previously committed crimes with drugs and weapons related. And his bond is a hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Okay? So that's about 15,000 because you usually got to pay 10%. Calculate your jail math, people. Calculate your jail math. And always ask yourself, will it be worth it? Please give David Scott J Jr. The biggest he haw.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No game, huh?

[DJ Envy]

And this is also why you gotta, you know, be like, you know what baby, you go down there and handle it. Because if I go down there and handle it, I'm going to jail. Okay? You know what I'm saying? So you gotta go turn to the baby mama and say, you go down there and handle it. Because if I go down there and handle it, I'm going to jail. Some people not lying when they say that. Yeah, okay.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah, him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, well, thank you for that donkey today, sir. Now when we come back, Ryan.

[DJ Envy]

Yes.

[Angela Yee]

You said you didn't want to.

[DJ Envy]

No, I don't want to.

[Angela Yee]

Why?

[DJ Envy]

Cuz it's.

[Angela Yee]

It's what? Obvious?

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

What part?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What part was obvious that Ed Is out. What part was obvious?

[DJ Envy]

You know, whatever.

[Angela Yee]

You know, Honestly, the whole story is. Is the whole story. Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Angela Yee]

So I don't need to play?

[DJ Envy]

No need to play.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, all right, all right. When we come back, Ryan Holiday will be joining us. He has a new book, right? Shut up.

[DJ Envy]

Yes, man. Ryan Holiday, one of my favorite authors. He wrote books like Ego is the Enemy. The Obstacle is the way I read his Daily Stoic every day for my daily affirmations. But he has a new book out called Wisdom Takes Work, Learn, Apply, Repeat. Okay, and we'll be here to talk to him when he comes out. He'll be here to talk to us when. When we come back.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right. Don't go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. Is DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlamagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Lauren the Rose is here as well. We got a special guest in the.

[DJ Envy]

Building, one of my favorite authors ever.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. A new book, Wisdom Takes Work, Learn, Apply, Repeat. Ladies and gentlemen, Ryan Holiday. Welcome back.

[Ryan Holiday]

Thanks for having me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How you feeling this morning?

[Ryan Holiday]

Doing awesome.

[DJ Envy]

What book is this number? What?

[Ryan Holiday]

I don't know.

[DJ Envy]

You don't. 10 to 10?

[Ryan Holiday]

It might be 15, 16, something like that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Fifth or sixth time he's been up here.

[Ryan Holiday]

Yeah. Very good to me.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, no, we like having you, man. The Wisdom Takes Work, Learn, Apply, Replete, Repeat. And in the book, you argue that wisdom is the virtue on which all other virtues depend. How did you arrive at that belief?

[Ryan Holiday]

So the four virtues of Stoic philosophy which I write about are courage, discipline, justice, and wisdom. They're all separate, but they're related in that, you know, wisdom tells us when and how to apply the others. If you. Doesn't matter, you know, how good your heart is if you don't have the wisdom, the intelligence to know how to bring it into the world. Or, you know, courage is important, but you could be courageous for something real dumb. So wisdom is. Is the sort of layer on top that we have to apply to all our other skills and assets.

[DJ Envy]

Well, it's one thing to do, to research. Was there a specific moment in your life that made you realize it?

[Ryan Holiday]

I think we've all met some smart people that do dumb things, and I think we've all done dumb things. And you look at wisdom as being sort of the key to not just a successful life, but a good life. Right? You. You can be really good at what you do, and then you can blow it all up, or you can be profoundly unhappy or, you know, how Many smart people are lacking in self awareness. So I just think wisdom is this sort of piece that brings it all together. And I think one of the problems is that we assume wisdom is this thing that just happens, right? We go, sure, school is important, but you know, experience is important. You know, wisdom comes with age. Not it's no guarantee. I met a lot of dumb old people too.

[DJ Envy]

Absolutely. I was always taught smart people learn from their own mistakes. Wise people learn from the mistakes of others. I completely agree that wisdom is a lost art. I think you have a lot of smart people. I don't think you have a lot of wise people nowadays.

[Ryan Holiday]

Yeah, yeah. And I mean, you need this not just to be successful, as I was saying, but like, how do you not fall for demagogues? Or how do you not fall for scammer? How do you rise above the noise? How do you separate fact from fiction? Wisdom, I think, is, you know, there's this word discernment, right? Art of discernment. Like, how many people can really see the difference between good and really good, you know, right. And almost right. Truth and complete nonsense. That to me, is the missing skill of our time.

[DJ Envy]

We're doomed, guys, it's over. Pack it up, go home.

[Angela Yee]

We're not doomed.

[DJ Envy]

Yes, we are.

[Angela Yee]

No, I think everybody eventually has something in their life that, that wakes them up to that, whether it's at a different, like, might be young, might be older. But you always taught, you're always taught that, like, wisdom comes with age. Yes, that saying. So you probably hate that saying, huh?

[Ryan Holiday]

Yeah, Churchill was joking about this guy he didn't like. And he said that although he occasionally stumbled over the truth, he quickly picked himself up and carried on as if nothing had happened. Right? So people are, I think life is always teaching you, right? But you don't have to hear. And so life will sometimes whisper, life will tell you nicely things that you need to know. And then when we ignore that, it becomes louder and louder and louder until sometimes you have to learn from some kind of catastrophic failure or catastrophe. And so your point, that we can learn from the experiences of others, that's the cheap, effective, efficient way to do it. And then a lot of us go, no, no, I'd rather figure it out on my own. And that cost not just them, but the people around them. Like the when, when we're late to learning lessons, that doesn't just affect us, but that affects the people that work for us. That affects our family. That affects the people who, you know, bear the consequences of that, you know, painful lesson that we chose to learn the hard way.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think wisdom has to come from age, though.

[Ryan Holiday]

Sure.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Regardless, I mean, regardless of what the. You can meet a stupid old person.

[Ryan Holiday]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But there is some wisdom that comes from what they're doing. Whether if they work at a plant, whether they, whatever they do at the house, there is some type of WISD that they can continue on to give to somebody else.

[Ryan Holiday]

Well, you know, the root of the word idiot is somebody in ancient Greece who did not participate in public life. So, you know, you can read everything you want and you can read a lot and that'll make you smarter than the average person. But if you're not engaged and involved, you're going to miss some things that you can only learn from experience. You know, da Vinci would sign his letters a disciple of experience. You have to learn by doing. You have to put yourself out there. And that's why I say it's learn, apply, repeat. So you learn the things you hear, the lessons you study. You go to school, then you got to go out in the world and you find that a lot of what you learn now has to be applied or a lot of what you learned you didn't actually understand it. And then you repeat that cycle over and over and over again. And each time that's a positive feedback back loop that's making you smarter and better.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They talk about educational a lot of people and I'm seeing this a lot more and more and more that people are not necessarily wanting to go to college.

[Ryan Holiday]

Sure.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They feel like the, the education that they get in college, they can be taught more through life experiences.

[DJ Envy]

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[Angela Yee]

In the new podcast Hell in Heaven. Two young Americans move to the Costa Rican jungle to start over, but one will end up dead, the other tried for murder. Not once people went wild, not twice, stunned, but three times. John and Anne Bender are written and attractive, and they're devoted to each other. They create a nature reserve and build a spectacular circular home high on the top of a hill. But little by little, their dream starts to crumble and our couple retreat from reality. They lose it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They actually lose it.

[Angela Yee]

They sort of went nuts until one night everything spins out of control. Listen to Helen Heaven on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I live below a cult leader and I fear I've angered her. Well, wait a minute, Sophia. How do you know she's a cult leader? Well, Dakota, luckily it's I'm Not Afraid of a Scary Story week on the OK Storytime podcast, so you'll find out soon. This person writes, my neighbor's been blasting music Every day and doing dirt rituals. And now my ceiling is collapsing. I try to report them, but things keep getting weirder. I think they may be part of a cult. Hold up, Sophia.

[Ryan Holiday]

A real life cult.

[DJ Envy]

And what is a dirt ritual?

[Angela Yee]

No clue. But according to this person, contractors are tearing down the patio to find out what's going on with their ceiling. And her neighbors are not happy.

[Ryan Holiday]

Well, she needs to report them asap.

[Angela Yee]

She did. And now they've been confronting her in really creepy ways all the time.

[Ryan Holiday]

So do we find out if this.

[Angela Yee]

Person survives their neighborhood cult or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And they feel like the wisdom that those professors have might be outdated. What they're teaching. What's your thoughts on that?

[Ryan Holiday]

Well, look, I'm a proud college dropout, so I'm, I'm all about it. There, there is and always has been a difference between school and education. So I think the problem is if you don't know what you're trying to do, how do you know what the best form of schooling or education is for you?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I say that all the time. By the way, I think it's stupid that we force kids to get out of high school and say go to college and pick a major immediately when they don't necessarily know what they want to do. If you know what you want to do, that's great. But there's been times where kids were like, I don't know, like, don't make me pick a major and make me take these courses if I don't necessarily know what I want to do in life.

[DJ Envy]

And by the way, nowadays, when we live in a world where we kind of prepare for a future that won't even exist exist because the AI going to be having all the jobs that you wait.

[Ryan Holiday]

Well, and look, spending a couple hundred thousand dollars over four years is an expensive way to figure out what you want to do. Absolutely. Especially if at the end of it, you find out that what you want to do is something that didn't require college. For, for me, I met Robert Green, our mutual friend, and then I realized that's what I wanted to do. And then I said, well, am I going to keep going to college or am I going to go directly learn from the person who's done it? So I'm a big believer in, in apprenticeships and mentorships, you got to find your teachers. Sometimes those are college professors, sometimes they're business executives, sometimes they're, you know, your neighbor down the street. But you got to find who can teach you how to do what you want to do.

[DJ Envy]

When, when you started off as an apprentice with Robert Greene, one of the first things he put you on was 40. A lot of power, right?

[Ryan Holiday]

No, I worked on the 50th law. Like, the first thing I did was transcribe before in a world before AI, I transcribed hours and hours of interviews between him and 50. And so that was part of my education. It's just listening. Not just listening to it, but having to painstakingly type it all out. And so I got this masterclass and not just, you know, how he worked, but all the people around him. And but what I was actually learning was like, how you put a book together. And Robert showed me how to research a book and how to write and then how to operate in the industry. You want to find the people who are further ahead in what you want to do and do it. Although, to be fair, like in college, I think one of the most professors are professionals in what they do. They're not just teachers, they're researchers, they're experts. They're, you know, they had a previous experience where they did the thing. And, you know, every week they have office hours where they have to sit there and meet with the students and nobody comes. So. So I thought the crazy thing for me is, like, I didn't go into the library at my college until after I dropped out and I was writing my first book because I was like, oh, wait, this is an incredible free resource that I was too busy, you know, doing the college kid thing to take advantage of. So all this stuff is there. It's just you got to be self directed and self motivated.

[DJ Envy]

Another claim you make in the book. You say, cultivating wisdom requires mental struggle, and there's no shortcut for that. So what does mental struggle look like? Like, from a, from a practical sense?

[Ryan Holiday]

Well, look like books are basically free. You know, you can get them from the library. The amount of wisdom in a book is incredibly cheap, but it still takes work. You got to wrestle with the book, you got to read it, you got to put the time in. It's not just the struggle to, you know, make the time to do the work, to read, to go to class, whatever. But then it's also wrestling with, with big questions like if you think life is black and white, if you think it's easy, if you think everyone is trying to tell you the truth all the time, I think again, you're going to find Yourself pretty vulnerable. So it. It is struggle. It's a. It's a battle. It's a battle against ignorance. It's a battle against misinformation. It's a. It's a battle against your. Your own biases. I think one of the things the Stoics remind us is that, like, your mind is not always your friend. We all have prejudices, we all have biases, we all have. Have mental shortcuts that we do that prevent ego being another one that gets in the way of us learning and seeing what we need to see. So you gotta struggle against yourself, too.

[Angela Yee]

I was gonna ask, with your books, it seems like your. Your target or your goal is to allow people to think freely, but, like, have an educated, like, base that they're pulling from.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Angela Yee]

How hard is it becoming for you to go around teaching all of this in this, like, time with this administration? I saw the thing that happened with you at the naval base and canceling your lecture that you do.

[Ryan Holiday]

Yeah. I've been doing a series of lectures at the Naval Academy on the cardinal virtues for the last four years, and the last one was canceled. I was supposed to lecture about wisdom, and I was going to talk about Admiral James Stockdale, who was a famous graduate there, who famously took a course on Marxism at Stanford before he was shot down in Vietnam and sent to a Marxist prison. And the idea is, like, you want to learn from the enemy, you want to understand what they think, or else you're vulnerable to brainwashing and propaganda. Actually, Seneca, the Stoke philosopher, said this. He said, we want to study like a spy in the enemy's camp. So I was supposed to give this lecture, and, like, a couple weeks before I went, they started removing books from the library at orders of the Secretary of Defense and the President because they were too woke or pro dei.

[Angela Yee]

And.

[Ryan Holiday]

I own a bookstore. I can't get up there and give a lecture about wisdom as they're literally removing books from a library. So I was going to mention it, and they found out, and they said, look, you got to remove those slides or you can't come talk here. And this is one of the elite universities in this country. These are people who someday are going to be piloting fighter jets or aircraft carriers or nuclear submarines like these. These cannot be sensitive little snowflakes, or we're in big trouble. These are people who are gonna not just have to make highly complex technical decisions, but profoundly ethical and moral questions. And yet here we are, protecting them, not just from potentially political books, but Maya Angelou's memoirs was one of the books that they removed, probably because no one in Hegseth's office has read it, knows anything about it. ChatGPT told him it was a woke book, so he wanted to remove. Remove it. So I felt I couldn't do that. And that's, by the way, where all the virtues are interrelated, because it's not just knowing that that book banning is stupid and reckless and dangerous. But then I have to decide, you know, do I want to preserve my access or do I want to say what I think is true? And also, do you want the, you know, Secretary of Defense to be mad at you? That's where courage comes in. But then also justice. Like, hey, it's the right thing, so you do the right thing thing. But, yeah, we are in a dangerous moment. Do you know the word kakistocracy? So, like oligarchy, democracy. Right. Different types of governmental system. Kakistocracy is government by the stupidest. And that's what we are facing in this moment. People who are. Who are not just not smart, but actively afraid of and angry at and resentful of people who have competence and knowledge because they're fundamentally threatened by it.

[DJ Envy]

Are they? So we have to replace the term idiocracy, then?

[Ryan Holiday]

Yeah, I mean, idiocracy, it's a similar way to say the same thing.

[DJ Envy]

Okay, okay.

[Ryan Holiday]

But I mean, I don't think the American people are that stupid. I think we are in a moment where we have elected a number of officials who are actively stupid and deliberately ignorant. And what you said is interesting because.

[DJ Envy]

You said they're resisting handful of people who are smart. And to me, I'm like, I don't think they don't. I don't think they believe anybody's actually smarter than them.

[Ryan Holiday]

There's a hilarious list of all the people that Trump has said he is smarter than. And it's like basically everyone that's ever existed.

[DJ Envy]

That's what I'm saying. Yeah, but.

[Ryan Holiday]

But it's this idea that, like, my feelings are more true or stronger than your expertise. So it's this. It's this antipathy towards expertise, credentialism, and look like the experts are wrong all the time. I'm not saying they're flawless, but. But, like, you don't want to be driving the smartest, most qualified, most experienced people out of the armed forces, out of the government, out of business. And that's the sort of bent that we're on. It's going to end very, very badly.

[DJ Envy]

Ooh, listen I want to ask you about that distant. If, if. Do you think the political climate made them feel that way? Because for the last 10 years, all the political pundits and the strategists, they've just been running wrong.

[Ryan Holiday]

They have been wrong like, and that. That, you know, this idea of negative capability. Negative capability is the idea. Can you. Can you hold two opposing ideas in your head? So on the one hand, the experts are wrong a lot. On the other hand, expertise is still really important. So you can't throw the baby out the bath horse. So you got to go, hey, why were the experts wrong about this, that or the other? What, what biases or tendencies do they have that you got to protect against at the same time, you got to elect qualified people? You don't go, hey, that guy talks about the military on Fox News on the weekends. Let's put him in charge of the most powerful military in the world. I mean, he's not even qualified to be the spokesperson for the Pentagon, let alone running the Pentagon. And so you gotta go, hey, here's what I believe, here's what I think is important. Important. And then still respect, you know, wisdom, intelligence credentials, experience.

[DJ Envy]

I want to ask you, what role does listening more than talking play when you're in like, a culturally diverse setting or when you're sitting with somebody with a different ideology and you're listening to them? Yeah, but at some point you might be like, well, that's wrong with some bullshit. You just keep listening to you in a jack like.

[Ryan Holiday]

But that, that is that that idea of negative capability is like realizing, for instance, I have to think about this with my kids. My kids are never wrong about their feelings because they're their feelings. Now I might feel differently. It might not change. Hey, you gotta go to school. You gotta do X, Y or Z. But like, your opinion is your opinion. And so I think what strong people are able to do, resilient people are able to do, wise people are able to do do is understand that people feel differently about different things, have different opinions about different things, and to be interested and curious about that without necessarily changing your mind all of the time. So I think diversity is strength in the sense that you want to bring as many different opinions and viewpoints and worldviews into the equation. But at the end of the day, you do have to decide what you think, think what you feel, what you're going to do. Especially in a position of leadership. Like, the leader ultimately has to listen to everyone and then make and own the decision.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But it's based on what their opinions are based off of. Meaning your opinion or how you feeling could be a certain way. Yeah, but if it's based off of some bull, that's not true.

[DJ Envy]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Then your feeling is kind of wrong.

[Ryan Holiday]

And I think that's our problem with expertise is people are like, well, but I don't want that to be true. And it's like, okay, that's cool. And I respect that you don't like it, but it is what it is. Right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, Ryan Holiday, ladies and gentlemen, new book, wisdom takes work, Learn, apply, reply, repeat. It's available right now. And thank you for joining us.

[DJ Envy]

Always a pleasure. When you pull up, Ryan, you're the best.

[Ryan Holiday]

Thank you, guys.

[Angela Yee]

Next time, bring some chocolate milk from a brown cow.

[Ryan Holiday]

I do have a brown cow. It does not make chocolate milk.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's the breakfast club. Good morning, the breakfast club.

[Angela Yee]

Lauren becoming a straight face.

[DJ Envy]

She gets them from somebody that knows.

[Angela Yee]

I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything.

[DJ Envy]

She be having the latest on.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The.

[DJ Envy]

Latest with Lauren larosa. Sometimes you have facts. Sometimes you have details. Sometimes she have a little bit everything. Well, it's the latest on the breakfast club.

[Angela Yee]

Okay, so before we get into more news, I wanted to go back to Brandy, Monica, just to answer your question about whether it was a added date because of what happened with brand brandy. So I spoke to a black promoters collective who are the promoters around this tour, and they said that it wasn't added because it happened with brandy. It was already added prior to Brandi in that first tour stop and her not being able to finish because of the demand there. Yeah, yeah, because of the demand there. They added that. And they added a few other dates in other places as well, too, because of the demand. And I did ask them because when Monica performed, not Monica Amaya performed yesterday, there was such a huge response to it. Of course, anytime you see Maya anywhere, but people want her as a part of the tour. And, you know. Yeah. So I asked, you know, were there conversations on that now? Because money long, which is who Maya stepped up for, put mentioned that she had pneumonia, which is why she had to step away. So I was wondering if there was going to be more dates where we could see Maya. And they say as of right now, no. They go back on stage on the 29th in Detroit. And as of right now, money long is supposed to be well and be there, but if not, you know, it's not off the table. And the people love Maya and they say they felt the response and they hear the fans that's not fair to.

[DJ Envy]

Compare money long to my. And the reason I say it's not fair is because you already have a nostalgic toy. Right. Cuz you got Monica, you got Brandy, you got Kelly, Roland. So the people that are coming there are probably people that are into that nostalgia that when you put a Maya on there over a money long, of course they going to vibrate with Maya.

[Angela Yee]

Yes.

[DJ Envy]

More.

[Angela Yee]

I, I feel like too there was conversations cuz Coco Jones is on this tour as well too and she has been doing.

[DJ Envy]

I didn't even know that.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah, she's, she's been doing. She's only on certain dates. She's been on a great job on the dates where she showed up. But they were having, you know, the conversations around that too. Like why do we have to get the R B singers from various times? Why not just everybody from one era? And it's like you kind of, you want to do that because you want to, you know, build out a full show and have openers and all the things. But you know, it's kind of, you can't compare the two. So you gotta let the younger girls get on stage and you know, put in their work as well too. Yeah. So yeah, I just wanted to answer that question for you.

[DJ Envy]

Thanks Low.

[Angela Yee]

Now in other news we share. Should have this in now. Kamala Harris is talking about whether or not she will be running for president again. And surprisingly she gave us a positive update. Let's take a listen. If your baby nieces, Amara and Leila, when are they going to see a woman in charge in the White House? In their lifetime for sure. Could it be you? Possibly. Have you made a decision yet? No, I have not. But you say in your book I'm not done. That is correct. I, I am not done. I have lived my entire career a life of service and it's in my bones. And there are many ways to serve. I've not decided yet what I will do in the future beyond what I am doing right now. But you've been very clear that it's a possibility you might run again to become president.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And in my experience interviewing politicians, when.

[Angela Yee]

Someone says I'm not done, it means they are thinking seriously about running. But when you look at the bookies odds, they put you you as an outsider even behind Dwayne the Rock Johnson. Is that underestimating you? There are all kinds of polls that will tell you a variety of things. I've never listened to polls.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Did she say the bookie odds?

[Ryan Holiday]

She did.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That sounds crazy.

[Angela Yee]

You know.

[DJ Envy]

You know, Jess, you complimented me on these orchards. I walked in this morning and I produced. What's it called?

[Angela Yee]

Orchids.

[DJ Envy]

Yes, Orchids. Yeah. Somebody bought this. This orchid. Is it an orchid or orchid?

[Angela Yee]

It's all right. Just get through it. We know you struggle.

[DJ Envy]

Well, somebody. Our producer, Eddie, bought this orchid in of you front for me. And when I read the card. These are from Kamala Harris.

[Angela Yee]

Oh, that's amazing. Orchids are really, really vice.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Former vice president Kamala Harris, Please.

[DJ Envy]

I said former vice president. Well, I didn't say that, but yes.

[Angela Yee]

We thought you were gonna read the card. You opened the card? No, it's personal. But that's an amazing. You get orchids when somebody is special to you. Orchid is not like an ordinary flower.

[DJ Envy]

Let me Google that. See what?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Can you move the orchid in front of Jess's face? Because the camera shines right on Jess. I can't see it. Thank you. Thank you.

[Angela Yee]

Well, yeah. So this has been Kamala's. Dang. Jess, you was helping them through it too. I was.

[DJ Envy]

Orchids symbolize luxury, love, and beauty. Yes, yes.

[Angela Yee]

And they last for a long time. They live for a long time. Yes. Yeah. So this was Kamala speaking with BBC. And the reason. I mean, it's Kamala Harris. Of course it's gonna pick up, but people are picking this up as her strongest answer to date on whether she won for president or not because of the Possibly. So there is that, but. Well, she said she not done. Exactly. Now, in other news, I'm gonna take it back to the HBCU homecoming vibes. And we know. I saw Kamala Harris, too, posting over the weekend and shouting out Howard University where she was a student because of the homecoming feeling. Now, Ari. Ari Fletcher, who is money bag yo's girlfriend and influencer online, she posted something that started a conversation. She says, why are grown adults at college homecoming? Is that normal? I'm genuinely asking because I didn't go to a big college that did stuff like. Like that, but it seems so off. I thought that was for the kids in school. I thought that was an event for the kids in school. So she doesn't understand why alumni attend homecoming.

[DJ Envy]

You know, it could be interesting about that if she would have just left it at. Is that normal?

[Angela Yee]

Is that.

[DJ Envy]

Let somebody answer. Yeah. As opposed to giving her opinion.

[Angela Yee]

Because she didn't say I'm genuinely asking.

[DJ Envy]

That's right.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah. So, yeah. Yeah. Well, people were very offended. And she came back and responded.

[DJ Envy]

I know they went crazy on Facebook. Of course. I know the alumni was like, how dare you.

[Angela Yee]

Stepping to some money back, yo, just because. Yeah. So she had to come back and say, y' all offended because I made y' all feel old. I was just asking big and mad, literally. So, yeah, people got upset because they're like, first of all, we can. We're allowed to be here. Age wise. It's nothing unnormal about that. And secondly, if you don't know, you should ask somebody before you put that out there. People are just.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They were mad because she sound crazy, not because they're old. And if she's ever been to a homecoming, I'm sure she's been booked for a lot of them. There's so many different ages, age groups when it comes to homecoming. And like me and Charlamagne was saying behind the scenes, the reason a lot of these schools are open, a reason a lot of these students get scholarships, they're making sure that those schools stay afloat.

[DJ Envy]

So.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But that is a lot of the reason why even. Even the nil deals with a lot of these HBCUs where players are able to get some money. That is the reason why.

[Angela Yee]

But I will say she. The. The events that she hosts during homecoming, if any at all, would be for the younger crowd. She would not be. Yeah, that's probably why she probably pays for it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, alumni probably pays.

[Angela Yee]

Right. Which is something that she needs to know. It's a learning lesson, though, and not in a negative way. I think that HBCU culture, college campus culture is. Unless you experience it, you don't know everything. There's nothing wrong with her asking.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's just not HBCU culture. This is all colleges. Like, in most, you could talk Harvard, you could talk St. John's it doesn't matter. The alumni is usually what funds that school to stay afloat.

[Angela Yee]

Well, Ari will be back on the campus, and she will now understand when she see the. You know what I mean?

[DJ Envy]

Like, that the alumni events look like they'd be more fire. But I'm 47, so don't listen to me. But the alumni events look like they'd be more fire. Any goddamn way.

[Angela Yee]

That's such a great time. They dress up. They get it, man. The older one, them seasoned women be dropping in low. Yes. You can tell in their prairie. And it's looking beautiful. Let me. Okay. Envy took me to Hampton for my first time ever. Over the weekend, they had set up, like, sections like, Jess, you could go and get bottle service, like, on the football field. And it was like multiple different sponsored ones. I've never seen A setup like it sounds very grown up, very alumni.

[DJ Envy]

It don't take nothing to impress a young girl any. They had sex, they had body service. They never had sex at homecoming.

[Angela Yee]

You just be out in the yard with your, with your red cup and I, I never seen. It was like soup. The, the buffet was laid out. It was a great setup.

[DJ Envy]

That's all it takes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I took her through the process of the students party to where the, the 20 year olds party to the 30s, to the 40s, to the 50. I took her to the process. So she can see everything. No, she came here excited.

[Angela Yee]

She was saying like Hampton was one of the best home country Cummins that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She ever went to. She ain't even want to go.

[Angela Yee]

Is what she said.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Now it was over. Then we went to Norfolk State after because she was hosting at Norfolk State. So I went.

[Angela Yee]

Amazing time in Norfolk State. Shout out to the alumni fest. Lou performed and people were so excited to see Envy. They love you guys. People always ask me about you guys whenever I'm somewhere. So shout out to homecomings and all the things and shout out to, you know, Aries. We'll see her at somewhere next year.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, that is the latest with Lauren. Let's get to the mix. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[Angela Yee]

Everybody.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. I'm out in Dominique. I'm coming back tomorrow morning. So I'll be back in the show in studio tomorrow. But I just want to salute to everybody out here. I mean they welcomed me like no other. They, you know, took me all through this, this, this island and taught me about the island. This island is like a nature island. So it's amazing. It's not really been quote unquote touched as they say it. It's very like so many trees, like it's, it's so many rivers and so many. What do they call it? Hot springs.

[DJ Envy]

Yes.

[Angela Yee]

Y' all got 365 rivers, Envy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right. Talk that talk. But it was just an amazing bit. So I just wanted to salute to the tourism board. I want to salute. They had a huge Creole festival. It was like probably 60, 70 artists performing from Vibes Cartel to Spice to Tiwa Savage. There's just so many artists. So I just want to say thank you for having me. Salute to Martha, salute to Daphne for having me. I know it was a tough way to get me here, but we actually got me here. So I just want to say thank you. I enjoyed it and I'll definitely Be back.

[DJ Envy]

That's beautiful, man. I'm glad that you are getting in touch with your roots.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And it's Dominique. It's not Dominique. Dominican Republic. People are mad at you about that. It was like, tell Charlemagne that he is not from Dominican Republic.

[DJ Envy]

First of all.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He's from Dominico.

[DJ Envy]

To be clear, y' all don't realize how much envy has claimed to be a Dominican all of these years so he can get awards, he can DJ parties. He. He had a float at the Dominican parade.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It was Puerto Rican Day parade. Have a float.

[DJ Envy]

I was DJing. NB out there beefing with Puerto Ricans as a Dominican just to try to get an extra check.

[Angela Yee]

He did.

[DJ Envy]

Diabolical, man. You got. I'm telling you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, my goodness. Now, you were out in South Carolina, right? Charlotte.

[DJ Envy]

I was in South Carolina this weekend, man. It was the University of South Carolina's homecoming. You know, that's my wife's alma mater. She's the cheerleader for the University of South Carolina. And I was also there on Friday. The icon living Don Staley. I moderated a conversation about her book Uncommon Favor, which I had the privilege of publishing earlier this year. It's been on the New York Times bestsellers list for weeks. So salute to everybody who came out to the Colonial Life arena to watch me in conversation with Don Staley as well as Asia Wilson. Okay. Four time WNBA mvp, three time WNBA champion.

[Ryan Holiday]

It.

[DJ Envy]

It was crazy because I've done a lot of interviews in my life, but sitting between Don and Asia and the arena that they made famous, I was sitting there like, damn, both of these women got statues a block apart in this beautiful city that we all love called Columbia, South Carolina. So, you know, that different was top. That. That interview was top tier for me. So salute to Asia Wilson and Don Staley.

[Ryan Holiday]

That's amazing.

[Angela Yee]

And your girl, just hilarious. Will be in Charlotte, North Carolina, this Friday and this Saturday coming up. And then I will be giving away. I keep repeating, I will be giving away a cash prize to the person who shows up with the best Halloween costume on. So get your tickets now if you haven't yet. Jessalariousofficial.com I'll be in Charlotte, North Carolina, this weekend. We got four shows, two on Friday, two on Saturday. Today, just largest official dot com. I love you, Charlotte. Can't wait to see y' all Friday.

[DJ Envy]

All right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, Charlotte, you got a positive note.

[DJ Envy]

I do, man. Salute to Ryan Holiday for showing up today. Salute to 112 total in case as well. Make sure you go check out that. What's the name of the tour?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Room 112.

[DJ Envy]

The room 112 tour that they're all on right now. But salute to Ryan Holiday. He's got a new book out, Wisdom Takes Work, Learn, Apply, Repeat. And I want to re say one of the quotes from the book, because I love this quote. The good thing about not being an expert about something is that it's a solvable problem. But ignorance, if you choose, can be a temporary state. Okay? Expertise is merely a function of your interest, your teachers, and your drive. So basically, what he's saying is there's nothing that you cannot learn. So ignorance, if you choose, can be a temporary state. Have a great day. Breakfast Club.

[Angela Yee]

Finish or y' all Done. This is an iHeart podcast.