FULL SHOW: Charlamagne Replies To Meek Mill’s Response About Not Recovering After Drake Beef + Arsenio Hall Interview

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The Breakfast Club - Episode Summary
Date: April 2, 2026
Episode Title: FULL SHOW: Charlamagne Replies To Meek Mill’s Response About Not Recovering After Drake Beef + Arsenio Hall Interview

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Breakfast Club features a fiery response from Charlamagne Tha God to Meek Mill’s claims about his post-Drake beef narrative, explores viral celebrity news, hears from listeners on hot topics, and most notably, hosts an in-depth and insightful interview with talk show legend Arsenio Hall. The conversation runs the gamut from hip hop culture and media scrutiny to personal growth, iconic entertainment history, and the shifting landscape of fame.

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Key Segments & Discussions

1. Show Opening & Morning Vibes (00:42–04:23)

• The team (DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God) kicks off with light banter about the weekend, wellness routines (IV drips), and the excitement around upcoming projects.
• Charlamagne shares thoughts on the generational reach of the Super Mario Galaxy movie.
• Arsenio Hall appears briefly, teasing his imminent longer interview and memoir release.

2. Front Page News with Mimi (04:23–09:01)

Main Topics:

• President Trump’s Primetime War Address:
  • Trump claims the US is "winning" in conflict with Iran and promises military escalation if no nuclear deal is reached.
    • Quote: “We’re going to hit them extremely hard over the next two to three weeks. We’re going to bring them back to the Stone Ages where they belong.” – President Trump (05:06)
  • Charlamagne reacts: "How are you going to tell me we negotiating and... sending them back to the Stone Age?" (05:46)
• Domestic Politics:
  • Efforts to end the government shutdown and debates over immigration and Homeland Security funding.
• Everyday Life Costs:
  • The ongoing surge in ground beef prices; cost of living anecdotes from the hosts.
    • DJ Envy: "I went bowling the other day and bowling was so damn expensive... two games and two shoes was $200." (08:29)

3. Get It Off Your Chest (09:24–14:24)

Listener call-in segment with several memorable moments:

• Celebrating a young woman’s acceptance to Howard University.
• Relationship woes and advice, with the hosts providing both earnest support and signature jokes.

4. Meek Mill vs. Charlamagne – Social Media Narrative (14:29–25:56)

Context:

Meek Mill posted a lengthy response to Charlamagne's comments that he “never fully recovered” in public perception after the Drake beef. This segment dissects both sides’ positions.

Key Quotes and Exchanges:

• Charlamagne provides context: "I was not dissing Meek Mill in no way, shape, or form. I was just talking about the perception of the narrative around Meek." (15:16)
• On social media narratives: "Nothing gets these blogs bricked up like them thinking Black people are going back and forth. This is not a back and forth." (15:30)
• Meek's Instagram rebuttal is read on air, listing his platinum records and decrying "propaganda" against his brand.
• Charlamagne: “If I was Meek, I would’ve deleted my Twitter and just kept dropping music. ...every time Meek posts, the Internet turns it into a joke.” (21:10)
• DJ Envy: “Sadly, because of everything that's been going on with social media after that beef, he's been the butt of a lot of people’s jokes, regardless of what he does.” (23:40)
• The hosts ultimately salute Meek and play his music, while analyzing the complicated dynamic between online perception and real-life accomplishments.

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5. Front Page News, Hour 2 (26:16–33:53)

• Viral Video Drama: President Trump references a viral Drewski video in relation to Erica Kirk, sparking discussion about satire and lawsuits.
• Supreme Court & Birthright Citizenship:
  • Trump criticizes the Supreme Court’s independence. Charlamagne reacts: "The Supreme Court is supposed to be independent." (29:58)
• NASA Artemis Mission:
  • Mimi reports on the Artemis 2 mission, with Charlamagne skeptically questioning why a moon landing is still a decade away: “If it's gonna take another 10 years for people to walk on the moon, how we went backwards?” (32:38)

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6. [Feature Interview] Arsenio Hall - Legacy, Memoir & Iconic Moments (34:17–56:52)

Highlights:

How the Memoir Came About:

• Arsenio: “I'm 70 years old. Could've written a book many times, but that's adult work... I'm so glad I did for my son and for my legacy, man.” (34:30)

Pushing Black Culture in Late Night TV:

• Charlamagne: “People don’t truly understand the risk you took to put Black culture at the forefront at a time when nobody was putting Black culture at the forefront.” (35:17)
• Arsenio recounts booking breakthrough acts (Bobby Brown, Boyz II Men, Snoop Dogg) and pushing for full performances against mainstream norms.
  • “I realized my battle is that they have no idea what I'm about to do... They didn't want Eddie Griffin because he’s too edgy... But the kid was Bruno Mar(s).” (36:00–38:26)

Creative Integrity and Industry Barriers:

• “Paramount every night, it was a nightmare because they wanted less Black. But my thing was, I'd rather do 6 years my way than 20 years Johnny's way.” (41:08)

Setting the Record Straight: Why He Left the Show:

• Arsenio clarifies he chose to leave, partly to retain creative autonomy as the network's financial priorities shifted.
  • “You ever break up with somebody and then you hear that he said, I left her because I was sick of her? Businesses like that too. They want to position it sexy their way… but I get to correct those things [in the memoir].” (43:00)
  • “I always wanted to leave on top. So the bottom line, when the money changed a little bit… let's do something else.” (46:37)

Hollywood and Interpersonal Drama:

• Addresses being called an “Uncle Tom” by Spike Lee and the complexities of holding or letting go of grudges.
  • “Sometimes to hold a grudge, you have to keep that ugly thing with you… Sometimes it’s easier for you to let it go.” (53:51)

Relationships, Race, and Community:

• Discusses scrutiny for interracial dating, notably with Pamela Anderson, and advice from older Black comics about navigating fame.

Charlamagne Honoring Arsenio:

• “Some people got their finger on the pulse of the culture. Some people are the pulse of the culture. Arsenio is definitely the pulse.” (95:01–95:50)

Notable Quotes:

• Arsenio: “Sometimes we don’t work together. We will work with anybody but our own. I don’t know why. But with this [book], and we got a good book.” (55:58)
• On legacy: “I used to want to do late night television because of Arsenio Hall... When you was on press for Coming to America 2, somebody asked you, ‘Who do you think is like the closest to you in this generation?’ You said, ‘I would say somebody like Charlamagne...’ What Charlamagne is doing is what I did... for this time, for this culture.” (57:20–58:39)

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7. The Latest with Lauren – Pop Culture Updates (60:00–66:07)

Stories:

• Nicki Minaj Home Trespasser
• J. Cole signs with Chinese Basketball Association:
  • Hosts joke about the team name, express respect for J. Cole’s pursuit of diverse ambitions.
• Kanye West’s Sofi Stadium Show Recap:
  • “Put the earth on... but yeah... I run it back like we always do with this time.” (64:14)
• Kanye’s ‘Bully’ Album Chart Prediction: Potential to debut at No. 2.
• Marvin Gaye Birthday Tribute

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8. Relationship Advice - Just Fix My Mess (73:46–85:52)

• Jess Hilarious dispenses candid relationship advice in response to calls about marriage, infidelity, engagement doubts, and trust.
• “You can do bad all by yourself. You’re not happy. Why are you staying? Why are you putting yourself through this?” (77:37)
• Plenty of humor and tough love from Jess.
• Charlamagne’s tongue-in-cheek alternative advice sprinkled in for comedic effect.

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9. Drake/Kendrick/Meek: Perception, Propaganda, and the State of Rap (86:21–94:15)

• Rumors about Drake's upcoming album “Iceman” and whether he’s recovered from his Kendrick beef.
• Charlamagne: “Drake hasn’t really recovered from the Kendrick battle.” (89:02)
• The crew debates: Should Drake rap more? Is he "too scared to drop"? How do memes and social media dictate hip-hop legacies?
• “After that battle, people are always going to have something to say about Drake... maybe good music silences all of that.” – Just Hilarious & Charlamagne (90:59–91:03)
• Comparisons to the earlier Meek/Drake beef resurface, with lessons about public narrative, artistic resiliency, and the role of fans.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Charlamagne Tha God:
  • “Our trauma is not our fault but our healing is absolutely our responsibility.” (67:04)
  • "Some people got their finger on the pulse of the culture. Some people are the pulse of the culture."
• Arsenio Hall:
  • “I spent two years knowing I was leaving and building a house on the beach... I'm cool with how it all went down.” (47:04)
  • “Truth is important. It's important when it's on y' all's side. So let it be important for us, too.” (45:25)
• Jess Hilarious:
  • “Best friends don’t treat best friends like that.” (78:40)
  • “You don't have to be desperate. Cut it out... All right? He ain't the only one that's going to propose to you.” (83:19–83:47)

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Useful Timestamps

• 05:06: Trump’s war threats soundbite and reaction
• 14:29: Caller critiques Meek Mill’s grammar and online battles
• 20:27: Meek vs. Charlamagne – Detailed discussion, reading Meek's Instagram post
• 34:17: Start of Arsenio Hall in-depth interview
• 41:08: Arsenio on creative autonomy (“Rather do 6 years my way…”)
• 46:37: Arsenio details his choice to leave late night on his own terms
• 53:51: The importance of letting go of grudges
• 60:00: “The Latest” pop culture news segment
• 73:46: Start of “Just Fix My Mess” relationship advice segment
• 89:02–91:03: Drake’s status post-Kendrick, rap battle impacts on culture

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Tone & Language

• Authentic, direct, often irreverent humor—especially from Charlamagne and Jess.
• Arsenio delivers wisdom with warmth and candor.
• The hosts shift seamlessly from jokes and hip hop banter to thoughtful commentary on legacy, trauma, and creative risk.

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Conclusion

This episode showcases The Breakfast Club's unique blend of pop culture commentary, political news, audience engagement, and landmark interviews. Charlamagne’s exchange with Meek Mill serves as a lens for discussing hip hop’s ever-intensifying relationship with perception and social media. Arsenio Hall’s interview is the centerpiece—shedding light on Black entertainment history, legacy, and the timeless fight for authentic representation. Throughout, the crew keeps it lively, honest, and rooted in community conversation—a true Breakfast Club tradition.

Transcript

[Just Hilarious]

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[DJ Envy]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wake you up.

[DJ Envy]

Wake that ass up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Program your Alarm to Power 105.1 on iHeartRadio.

[DJ Envy]

Good morning, USA.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo.

[DJ Envy]

Jess. Hilarious.

[Dr. Jess]

Wake that ass up.

[DJ Envy]

Charlemagne the guard.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Peace to the planet. It feel out there. I feel blessed. Black and highly favored. Happy to be here another day to serve our beautiful listeners. Good morning.

[DJ Envy]

That's right. Good morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How you feeling?

[DJ Envy]

How you feeling, Jess?

[Dr. Jess]

I feel energized. I'm ready for this weekend. I got a whole day of press tomorrow in la.

[DJ Envy]

I feel energized.

[Dr. Jess]

I really do. Yesterday I went to get an iv, so shout out to vital IV infusions in Jersey City. Well, I think Hoboken in that area or whatever.

[Caller/Listener]

Yo.

[Dr. Jess]

And I got the IV drip and this is not the first time I got it, but like, this is the first time I'm actually feeling the effects of it. Like, it helps with brain fog, anxiety, energy because I don't sleep well and all those things. Just putting like the, the nutrition and all the vitamins and all that back into your body, you know, you, you get it like much more. It's much more potent when it's going through the iv, you know, rather than taking a whole bunch of vitamins.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, that's dope. And if you stop doing drugs, that helps.

[Dr. Jess]

Yeah, well, I haven't done them since I got the IV, so I'm.

[DJ Envy]

So that was just yesterday.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

12 hours.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, less than that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, okay, okay.

[Dr. Jess]

No, I have not. I. Yo, I'm good. Look at my eyes. I'm straight, like. Yeah, I'm good.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That'll ain't kick in yet. Give her a minute.

[Dr. Jess]

I have not. Yo. But no, I'm really, really excited. My book, like, I'm. We're getting closer to the release. April 28th, I'm really excited about it. So go out there pre order it right now. I. Charlemagne.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Don't.

[Dr. Jess]

Don't yell at me for promoting the book too early. Because I don't like when we start off trying to sell stuff. But I'm really excited.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I know, but hello to the people first.

[Dr. Jess]

Good morning. Say good morning. Wake that ass up. But yeah, I'm excited. So that's where I met this weekend.

[Arsenio Hall]

That's promot.

[DJ Envy]

All right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I went to go see the Super Mario Galaxy movie yesterday.

[DJ Envy]

He was excited about that. How was that?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Drop on the clues. Bonds for Super Mario by yourself or

[DJ Envy]

you took the kids?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Shut up. It's a family movie. Of course I took the kids.

[DJ Envy]

Act like you ain't go to some of these movies by yourself.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's interesting, right? Because I love things that transcend generations. Right? So, you know, of course we grew up on Super Mario. He was around when NES first came out, when Nintendo, literally when Nintendo started, that was the game Super Mario Brothers and Duck Hunt. So to see all of these kids and my kids in the movie theater, by the way, they know characters that I don't even know no more. Cause I don't follow the world anymore.

[Caller/Listener]

Right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So it's a whole bunch of different characters.

[Dr. Jess]

New ones, of course.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, of course. You know, I think the last new character I remember from Super Mario was probably Yoshi, and Yoshi's in this shit. But then there's a whole bunch of new ones that I know nothing about. But the movie is just phenomenal to watch. And I love it because there's a scene in the movie where they show the. They flash to the old school video game that we grew up on.

[Dr. Jess]

Oh, wow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And a scene. Oh, it's so dope. You gotta watch it. I don't want to spoil it for you, but you gotta see it.

[DJ Envy]

All right. Definitely check it out. Take the kids. I need something to do. My kids got spring breaks. I need something for them to do.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Have they seen the first one?

[Arsenio Hall]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay. They've seen the first one. Definitely take them to see the Super Mario Galaxy movie.

[DJ Envy]

Okay, I definitely will. All right, well, let's get the show cracking. Arsenio hall will be joining us.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The icon. The icon living. Okay. The legend of all legends. All right. One of my top four entertainment inspirations in the world, Arsenio hall will be here to talk about his new book, Arsenio A Memoir that came out on Black Privilege Publishing, Simon and Schuster.

[Arsenio Hall]

That's right.

[DJ Envy]

So we're gonna be kicking it with A studio hall. Next hour, we got Front page News with Mimi, so don't go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. Is DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlamagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get in some Front page news. What's up, Mimi?

[Mimi Brown]

Good morning, Envy. Joe Charlemagne. How y' all doing this morning? Good morning. So we start this morning with President Trump's his first primetime address since the world the war started. Told America that the US Is winning and that the war would be over soon. So he says the US Military has hit thousands of targets, weakened Iran's military, and the goal is to stop Iran from getting nuclear weapons. He also warned that if Iran does not make a deal, the US Will hit more targets in the coming weeks. He did not give a clear timeline, only saying that it would be over a few weeks, be over in a few weeks, and that the fighting will continue until the US Mission has been completed. Let's take a listen to what he had to say.

[President Trump (clip)]

We're going to hit them extremely hard over the next two to three weeks. We're going to bring them back to the Stone Ages where they belong. In the meantime, discussions are ongoing. Regime change was not our goal. We never said regime change. But regime change has occurred because of all of their original leaders death. If there is no deal, we are going to hit each and every one of their electric generating plants very hard and probably simultaneously. We have not hit their oil, even though that's the easiest target of all, but we could hit it and it would be gone, and there's not a thing they could do about it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How are you going to tell me? We negotiate and we're trying to make a deal. But also on the same say we hitting them hard and sending them back to the Stone Age where they belong. Jesus Christ. Which one is crazy? Can you stop hitting me for a second so we can talk? Jesus.

[Mimi Brown]

Very contradicting there. The president also acknowledged that Americans are feeling the impact here at home, especially when it comes to gas prices in the economy, but says that those problems should be over once the war is completed. And so right now, the message from the White House is the war is not over yet, but they believe that the end could be here soon. So.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So you didn't get no timeline. He just said it could be over here soon.

[Mimi Brown]

Yes, two to three weeks, I believe is what he said. But at the same time, we have ground troops still heading that way. So, you know, we'll have to see what that looks like. And we could finally Be seeing the beginning of the end of the government shutdown. Republicans in Congress now say they have a plan to reopen the Department of Homeland Security and get federal workers paid again. But they are doing it in two steps because the big fight over immigration is still not resolved. So first, lawmakers plan to fund most of Homeland Security. So also agencies like tsa, fema, and the Coast Guard can keep running and workers can get paid. Now, they say they plan to do this in the next few days. Then they plan to deal with immigration enforcement like ICE and border security in a separate bill using a process called reconciliation, which means they'll pass it with only Republican votes and they don't need Democrats to get that through. President Trump is pushing for Congress to get the immigration funding part done by June 1st first. So that could be good news for all of those workers who are not getting paid. I know a lot of people are saying that the Coast Guard and some of the cyber security workers, federal workers, they feel left out because we're only focusing on TSA agents. So some relief could be coming soon. And if you've been to the grocery store lately and felt like your bill keeps going up, that's probably because it is. The price of ground beef has now gotten so high in some stores that one pound of costs more than a federal minimum wage, meaning some people are working an hour just to afford one pound of meat. Yes. Of hamburger meat. Experts say this is just yet another sign, though, of how everyday expense, how everyday life is getting, how expensive it's getting.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So, no, everything is expensive. Even just going to the movies yesterday. I mean, I know I got a lot of kids, but God damn. Okay, okay. When it's five of y' all and things almost total up to $100 for some popcorn and some candy, anything for

[Dr. Jess]

five people these days is a lot.

[DJ Envy]

I went bowling the other day and bowling was so damn expensive.

[Dr. Jess]

Yeah, bowling. Bowling always been expensive.

[DJ Envy]

Nah, nah, bowling was never that expensive. It was like we only played two games. So two games and two shoes was 200. And it was four. It was four of us.

[Dr. Jess]

Oh, four, y'.

[Caller/Listener]

All.

[DJ Envy]

It was four of us and the baby. Four of us and the baby. That was expensive.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm with you.

[DJ Envy]

But Ed, food, It was like $150 and

[Charlamagne Tha God]

peanut M M's and, you know, almonds and popcorn. Shouldn' your $92 $12 a piece for that? That's crazy.

[DJ Envy]

Most people stop at 7:11 before they get to the movie.

[Dr. Jess]

I still do that. I don't care. Take the big Bag. I'm putting everything in there.

[Mimi Brown]

Absolutely. All right, y'.

[Caller/Listener]

All.

[Mimi Brown]

Well, coming up at 7, the travel industry is dealing with higher fuel prices, and now travelers are paying for it in unexpected ways. We'll explain that in the next hour.

[DJ Envy]

All right, everybody else, get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, phone lines are wide open. Again, 1-800-585-1051 is the breakfast Club. Good morning.

[Arsenio Hall]

This is your time to get it off your chest.

[DJ Envy]

Keep calling 800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Hello?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who's this?

[Caller/Listener]

Hey, this is Taylor from Atlanta. Can y' all hear me?

[DJ Envy]

Taylor from atl. What's up?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, we can hear you, sir. Why you can't hear us?

[DJ Envy]

Talk to us.

[Caller/Listener]

I just want to make sure. Also, too. My bad. I called y' all about a week ago. Charlemagne. What I wanted to say was I think a. A very good versus or debate would be from uncle. Uncle Ruckus and Dr. Ubar, even though I know that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But see, we couldn't. We. We would have to. We. We couldn't tell Dr. Umar that Uncle Ruckus not a real person. We just have to have him up here and have Uncle Ruckus call in.

[Caller/Listener]

I know. That's. That's because I love. Cause I love to see your interview. When you interview it, it's still so frightening. Yeah, man, I'm saying two more things. Just hilarious. How you doing?

[Dr. Jess]

I'm good. How you?

[Caller/Listener]

I'm good, man. I can't complain, but I know you got the book coming out. However, though, I feel I can't tell you what to do with your future or anything like that, but if you were to ever do another book, you gotta do something about women wanting to listen and understanding from other women who are successful with their marriages and love and stuff like that, because that tends to be the hardest thing that women. They don't want to, so. Well, I say certain women don't want to listen to men, but it might be good coming from another woman. And you want the people you tap on with the coach.

[Dr. Jess]

Yeah.

[Caller/Listener]

The last thing I'm gonna have to lie. DJ Envy and Charlamagne, if y' all don't mind me asking, I want y' all to drop a cool. A DJ coupon for someone. My. My woman, her daughter, her name is Zanaya Williams, just got accepted into Howard.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey.

[President Trump (clip)]

Okay,

[Caller/Listener]

We got Hampton.

We got Fort Valley.

[DJ Envy]

Okay.

[Caller/Listener]

We got Jackie Faith, we got Clark. We got Beth Thor. And we got Spelman.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I love it.

[DJ Envy]

Congratulations.

[Caller/Listener]

Congrats for that young lady. So Anaya, Yvonne, Howard. I would just request y' all drop one of clues bombs for her because she had to go through all that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, drop one of clues bombs for Howard, man. Congratulations, Queen.

[DJ Envy]

Absolutely.

[President Trump (clip)]

Which was she leaning towards?

[Caller/Listener]

All right, well, look, I, I, I appreciate y' all go. He'll go giant.

[DJ Envy]

All right, which, which school is she leading towards, bro?

[Dr. Jess]

Which one she want to go to?

[Caller/Listener]

I'm sorry. Only Howard.

[DJ Envy]

Okay, that's good. Hbcu. It's all hbcu. Love. I love my, my.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah, she's on that. And then she had happened because she had heften in the bag. It was just how it was a little bit more, you know, waited to the end, but, man, she trying to be a psychologist. She trying to do her thing.

[Arsenio Hall]

All right, brother.

[DJ Envy]

Have a good one.

[Dr. Jess]

You and your baby, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was watching Angel Reese yesterday. Angel Reese. I don't think it was from yesterday, but she was saying how if she could do it all over again, she didn't. Went to Howard University.

[DJ Envy]

She went down with hbcu.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She always wanted to go to Howard.

[DJ Envy]

Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need the vent, hit us up now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, Ray.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Ray. Ray.

[Dr. Jess]

Yo, Charlamagne, Envy.

[DJ Envy]

What up?

[Caller/Listener]

Are we live?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This is your time to get it off your chest. I got an indoor pool, outdoor pool. We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club.

[DJ Envy]

We can get on the phone right now.

[Caller/Listener]

Here.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Tell you what it is.

[Dr. Jess]

Hello?

[DJ Envy]

Who's this?

[Caller/Listener]

Hello, it's Seiya.

[DJ Envy]

Hey, Sam, what's up? Get it off your chest.

[Caller/Listener]

What's up? All right, so what I'm getting off my chest is my relationship. Okay? I've been in a relationship for five years. I am in my 20s, late 20s, you feel me? And it's just declining. I don't know. I think we kind of got into a relationship when I was just trying to be free outside, but now I'm trying to get to a bag, you know, and she's not worried about it as much as I am. And I don't know, I'm not just worried about money, but I definitely feel like I can't just run out of love.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You tired of that scrap, huh?

[DJ Envy]

Wow.

[Dr. Jess]

Cut it out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Battery's dead on.

[Caller/Listener]

Charlie. I'm saying it's not enough.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, you got to tell her that's not the way you're trying to eat no more you're trying to get to that bag.

[Dr. Jess]

Hey, yo.

[Arsenio Hall]

Wow.

[Caller/Listener]

I'm trying to eat that bag. That's it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right. I mean, you just got to tell her. I mean, I'm sure it's going to be tough for her, but it is, you know? She'll be okay.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah, for sure. Love for real.

[Dr. Jess]

That's right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What do you say? Best for you say studs are like buses, right? You miss one, the next one coming,

[Dr. Jess]

I ain't never heard.

[Caller/Listener]

Listen, they coming. They. Are they on a roster? I'm trying to be nice.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, ma'. Am. Yes, ma'. Am.

[DJ Envy]

Have a good one.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Man, you gotta do what you got to do.

[Caller/Listener]

Me, too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't have no problem with what you're doing, man. I am all about boundaries and removing people from my life that are keeping me from my goals.

[Arsenio Hall]

True.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hello?

[DJ Envy]

Who's this?

[Dr. Jess]

Who'll just be making up?

[Caller/Listener]

What's up, y'?

[Dr. Jess]

All?

[DJ Envy]

What's up?

[Caller/Listener]

What's up, yo, Envy Star.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Peace. What's happening?

[Caller/Listener]

Look, well, listen, we gotta talk about people that get so mad that they try to write a paragraph and they can't spell.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What you talking about?

[Caller/Listener]

I'm talking about Meek Mill, man. You can't be out here proving what people say about the Philadelphia education system. Right? I'm trying to decipher what you talking about. You just sound. You just look so dumb. Because I can't read what she was talking about, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Salute to Meek. Man, we not doing that. Salute to Meek.

[Caller/Listener]

No, man, my brain hurt.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

My brain hurt trying to read what

[Caller/Listener]

he was talking about yesterday.

[Dr. Jess]

What was he talking about?

[Caller/Listener]

Man, I don't know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I can't really get into it.

[DJ Envy]

Laura's gonna break it down in. In the latest. He was upset with some comments and some critique that Charlemagne had, so he was talking how he felt and how he felt.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I wasn't even. I was not dissing Meek Mill in no way, shape, or form. I was just talking about the. The perception of the narrative around Meek.

[DJ Envy]

Well, if. If you missed it, I'm sure Lauren has it in. In the first latest. What's up, Lauren?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nothing gets these blogs bricked up like them thinking black people are going back and forth. This is not a back and forth. I'm not trying to dis Meek in no way, shape, or form. We can talk about it.

[DJ Envy]

You going to talk about it later?

[Just Hilarious]

Yeah, we going to talk about Meek and Charlamagne and that whole conversation. I love Meek, and people be coming for him so bad.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You just woke up.

[Just Hilarious]

No, I mean, we all just Woke up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's 6:00am I've been up since 4 or something.

[Just Hilarious]

I've been up since 3:30.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, okay.

[Just Hilarious]

Yeah. But we also tried a little harder this morning. Shut up.

[DJ Envy]

Jesus.

[Just Hilarious]

We're also going to get into.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You didn't try this morning how you just said it's.

[Dr. Jess]

You just wok up. She's sitting right here at work like. Like awake.

[DJ Envy]

Like focus. Stay focused. Stay focus.

[Just Hilarious]

We also going to get into Meg the Stallion. We now know what actually happened to Meg. I got a statement yesterday that cleared up some of the, you know, health concerns.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So it wasn't you though, huh?

[DJ Envy]

So it wasn't you.

[Just Hilarious]

It wasn't me. Leave me alone.

[DJ Envy]

All right, we'll get into all that.

[President Trump (clip)]

One little hoodie.

[Just Hilarious]

Now you still sleep.

[DJ Envy]

We'll get into that next. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You're talking LL Cool Brick.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah.

[Just Hilarious]

I'm not dumbing myself down. I'm being myself. I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything and everything Lauren.

[Dr. Jess]

Little brown girls look at you and go.

[Just Hilarious]

I want to be like you.

[Mimi Brown]

Take me through that.

[Dr. Jess]

Take me through that. Where is she going?

[Arsenio Hall]

The latest with Lauren Ramosa.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Take me through there on the Breakfast Club. LL Cool Bay, talk to me.

[Just Hilarious]

So Tuesday night, you guys know I went to go see Meg thee Stallion on Broadway in Moulin Rouge and that was.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You got her sick.

[Just Hilarious]

I did not.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You went in there with all them germs that you've been bringing in here for the past week.

[Just Hilarious]

That was abruptly stopped and Meg thee Stallion was swapped out for an understudy and she did not continue the show. And people were have been trying to figure out what happened because it was just so random. So last night I received a statement from a spokesperson for Meg the Stallion clearing up what happened to Meg because we knew that she had been taken to the hospital. The statement said, on Tuesday, Megan was transported to the hospital to undergo medical evaluation after she experienced concerning symptoms. So they said that the doctors identified extreme exhaustion, dehydration, vasoconstriction, which is something that like narrows your blood vessels and can stop blood blood flow. Low metabolic, low metabolic levels, which can lead to fatigue as the cause of her symptoms. So they said that she was treated and that she'll return back to Broadway at Ziddler tonight, Thursday. Meg the Stallion then posted on her Instagram and she says, you know, last night, she posted this yesterday. Last night was a real wake up call for me. I've been pushing myself past my limits lately. Running on empty. My body. My body finally said enough. It's honestly very scary. Or it scared me. I thought I was going to faint on stage. I really tried to push through my performance, but I just couldn't. I want to be real with y' all because you mean everything to me. I hate letting y' all down. She's talking to the hotties. I just need one day to rest, reset, and take care of myself the way I should have been. I'll call, and I'll get right back on stage. She says she'll be back Thursday. She'll be stronger, clear, and ready to give 100% the way that the show deserves. And she says thanks for riding with her and loving on her through all of this.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm between your show, between rehearsals, and she might be working on an album. She probably got a million different things going on.

[Just Hilarious]

Yes. And Broadway is very. It's. It's very demanding, like that schedule is. I mean, it's. It's a lot to deal with. But when she says she almost fainted on stage, I'm like, the performer of her is like, wow. Because you couldn't tell that at all. No, you could not tell it.

[DJ Envy]

Sometimes your body needs a break. Your body gonna tell you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Or the Internet. Don't put a baby in her. I just want y' all to know.

[Dr. Jess]

I know I've been seeing it everywhere.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Anytime you.

[Just Hilarious]

It's because she's happily in a relationship. Anytime your relationship. Every. You sneeze, people be like, you pregnant?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, oh, we don't think that about you.

[Just Hilarious]

You asked me that several times. And I always knock on wood and take a shot. Yeah, because.

[Dr. Jess]

Don't play with knock on wood and take a.

[Just Hilarious]

Because just not right now. God, I love you, but not right now. I got a lot to do. I need about, you know, two years.

[DJ Envy]

So if you are pregnant, you just gonna get that baby just alcoholed up already.

[Just Hilarious]

Jesus knows my heart.

[DJ Envy]

All right, because she said she takes a shot.

[Dr. Jess]

But Megan.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, she mean like a pregnancy shot to not get pregnant.

[DJ Envy]

No, she's talking about a shot of liquor.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah.

[Just Hilarious]

I like to kill her.

[Dr. Jess]

Yeah. I wonder if she does the IV things, though, because I was just telling him I went to vital IV infusions yesterday, and I feel good. Like, you know, it helps with, like, energy and brain fog. And I'm not saying that she got brain fog, but. Yeah, like you, that Broadway schedule is very demanding. We've interviewed people that. That does Broadway, and they. They don't have days off.

[Just Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Dr. Jess]

And their rehearsals are crazy. And they're, like, out there screaming to the top of their lungs for, you know, like, two, three hours straight. So.

[Just Hilarious]

Well, I'm not for sure what she's doing, but I think whatever she was doing before her regimen is going to change for sure at this point. And I was there yesterday outside of the theater in New York. I did a inside edition about this whole, you know, what happened that night. And I heard the audience handlers reminding people that Meg would be back on Thursday and that she wasn't there that night. And there were some people who didn't know who were like, okay, well, how do we change our tickets for Thursday then? So.

[Dr. Jess]

Yes.

[Just Hilarious]

All right, now, in other news, Charlemagne all over the timeline. So Meek Mill is upset. He did not like some comments that Charlemagne made, so he made it a main post on his Instagram to talk about propaganda that takes place in the hip hop community. Now let's take a listen first to Charlemagne's comments that he made with Andrew.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Can you give the clip some context, though? Like, we were discussing how people handle the aftermath of rap Beast.

[Just Hilarious]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's why you guys are talking about

[Just Hilarious]

Jay Z. Nas, because of the Jay Z interview that he did with gq. So let's take a listen to the comments on Brilliant Idiots.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We could have just kept doing music, but for some reason, he didn't like. Something was just off after the battle. You know what I mean? And he really. I mean, honestly, he didn't really. He never. Yes. You know what it was with Meek, Man, Meek's Achilles heel to me was actually Twitter.

[Dr. Jess]

Yeah, for sure.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And when Drake. When Drake called him Twitter fingers, trigger

[Dr. Jess]

fingers turned to Twitter fingers.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Trigger fingers turn to Twitter fingers. And it's just like every time Meek tweets, even now to this day, it's crazy.

[Arsenio Hall]

It's pure energy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm like, I. With Meek. You know what I'm saying? I think Meek does a lot for his community. You know, he's been a. A great, you know, symbol for the city of Philly. I love what he does with reform, but I probably would have deleted my Twitter after Twitter fingers and just flooded the streets with nothing but music. When I say didn't really recover, I'm talking about perception, narrative, especially on social media. Because when Drake and Meek had their rap beef, that's when the narrative about Meek started to change. That's when all the jokes started, and the jokes haven't really stopped since.

[DJ Envy]

So you wasn't talking musically? Because I seen Meek put up a post and he talked about some of his accolades since that televif.

[Just Hilarious]

Yes.

[Dr. Jess]

Yeah.

[Just Hilarious]

So he put up a post, a very lengthy post and he says he wanted to make this a main post because he wanted to highlight I bet

[Charlamagne Tha God]

you can't read it what he called

[Just Hilarious]

propaganda that's taking place in the hip hop community. I'm gonna get through it. He says he needs everyone to leave a comment. If you see what's happen happening and how they're trying to downgrade artists brands from feeding their family, let's go through it. The white comedian also boosted boosted didn't rumor on his major platform with no evidence then asked me to go on his show. Can y' all see my brand back heating up now this. Please leave an honest comment. Since Drake beef I dropped Tat. That's 3 times platinum PETA double platinum, Blue Note 1 and 2 times platinum uptown vibes Legend from Brooklyn Fab Platinum was free featuring Jay Z, Meek Mill. I think that it's platinum F on me featuring Cardi Platinum Scarface, River Ross Gold Independent Money, Respect the game platinum 247 double platinum. So he's going through a bunch of his music. Cybertruck in Philly 5am look how far we came. Like he said, he said. So what are. What the f are we talking about? We got to keep a close eye on this cat. I feel like he's in the closet gay man that hates successful black men unless he's doing business with them. But they promoted. I'm gay and I'm powering helping pop like 10 artists off on the east coast. No cash for game for charity. I'm really the one. But it's some real propaganda on my brand and I want to investigate it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Drop on the clues bombs for Meek Mill. I never said he didn't drop any music. I said if I was meek, I would have deleted my Twitter and just kept dropping music. I would only talk through the music because every single time Meek posts, the Internet turns it into a joke. Y' all was just laughing at him last week because he posted about being on LinkedIn. Yeah, I said on brilliant idiots. The propaganda. I didn't say propaganda but I said, you know, the way they act with Meek is strange. And I I agree with Meek. The propaganda against Meek is strange. And it started with that battle. And at least on social media, the narrative around him hasn't recovered.

[DJ Envy]

It started with the battle. The sad thing about Meek is Meek. He gets busy, he gets nice. He puts out great music. He's an inspiration to a lot of these artists. G Herbo Said he's the reason why he even wanted to get into music. But sadly, because of. Of everything that's been going on with social media after that beef, he's been the butt of a lot of people's

[Charlamagne Tha God]

jokes, regardless of what he does. And he does some great things. We always give me credit for the great things.

[Just Hilarious]

And it doesn't matter what he does, he drops too. Because there has been music that I feel like people didn't like. Remember the. Remember the Heathens? Like, there was a lot of things that he.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Championships, wins and losses. Even though that was almost 10 years ago, that was a great, great project.

[Just Hilarious]

But he. He dropped a. A snippet last year.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Last year he put out a four pack.

[Just Hilarious]

That was the. Remember the. The Heathens one. That's what I'm talking about. Oh, that's.

[Dr. Jess]

Yeah.

[Just Hilarious]

And it was great, but I feel like people didn't really talk about it at the time.

[Dr. Jess]

Just proofread the tweets, yo. That's all you gotta do before you just press is submit. Just proofread the tweets. It's like anything he do. Cause, Link, sometimes I don't understand what you're talking about. Like, we don't understand, but it's funny. It's not like, you know, oh, you're a retard. You're a retard. Like, you're just funny, yo.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's why I said he shouldn't tweet and he should just talk through the music. And as he just said, they put gay on meek. That's what I'm saying.

[Dr. Jess]

They definitely was sprinkling on gay up and down.

[Just Hilarious]

He mentions that. He said that that Diddy situation was like, that wasn't right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And that's why I'm not even mad. You know, he said I'm. I'm DL in that post. Because that's just projection.

[Just Hilarious]

You're not DL. You come out. You came out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Shut up.

[Dr. Jess]

No, he did not. Yes, he did. Well, he not.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But I'm just saying he'd be hurt by what people say about him. So he's putting that on me. But I do agree with me, the propaganda against him is strange. And it started with that battle, at least on social media.

[Dr. Jess]

Right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And the narrative around him on social media is what I mean when I say he hasn't fully recovered. Right. Cause he's done some amazing stuff.

[Just Hilarious]

He has.

[DJ Envy]

He sells out arenas. He sells out. He does a lot of dope. Ish. But like you said, the propaganda around him is. Is taking what he's Done. And what he's built and tries to make a mockery of it every time he post. If you're Meek.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

You understand why he would be upset. Like, absolutely, positively. They done made this man gay. They just made this man Diddy's sitting on Diddy's lap every time

[Dr. Jess]

they didn't.

[DJ Envy]

Took everything that he started with. And I seen his grind from the beginning.

[Dr. Jess]

I know.

[DJ Envy]

So I would feel the same way.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Meek has done some amazing things. As I said in that interview. As I said on Brilliant Idiots. He done some incredible things. I love what he does with reform.

[Dr. Jess]

We love a Meek, y'.

[Caller/Listener]

All.

[Just Hilarious]

Yes.

[DJ Envy]

All right. Salute to Meek, man.

[Just Hilarious]

Yeah, he dropped Meek.

[DJ Envy]

Can we play some dreams of Nightmare? I just want to pull it up, period.

[Just Hilarious]

Gotcha.

[DJ Envy]

All right, well, that is the latest with Lauren. Now when we come back, we got front page news. And then Arsenio hall will be joining us. So don't go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, everybody. DJ Envy, just hilarious. Charlamagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get back to some front page news. What's up, Mimi?

[Mimi Brown]

Good morning, M.V. just Charlamagne. How y' all doing this morning?

[Dr. Jess]

Hey, girl.

[Mimi Brown]

Good morning. So we start this hour with a story that blew up online and is now getting attention at the White House. So President Trump is weighing in on that viral video involving Erica Kirk, who is the widow of Charlie Kirk. So she was in a room yesterday during a White House Easter lunch when the president saw her in the audience. He asked how she was doing, and then he seemingly brought up that Drew Ski viral video. Let's listen.

[President Trump (clip)]

Does it want to love, darling? Wow, this is a good tape. I like that table. You're doing well. Right? Okay. I think you should sue him. But, you know, I told her, you ought to sue somebody. They're so jealous of Erica. I said, you're to sue their. You. I can say you're not allowed to say this. You have to be nice to her. Sue their off.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Erica Kirk should be offended every single time somebody says that was Drew Ski was imitating her in that video. Because he never said he was. You know what I mean? There's another conservative woman named Kat Kamak who. Oh, I think that's who I think Drew Ski saw. Cause she be wilding on stage. I didn't learn about her until after the Drew Ski skit. So Erica Kirk should be offended every time somebody be like, yeah, Drew Ski was pretending to be you because that's how they think you look, Erica.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, but how can, I was just always curious to. How can they sue? When you look at all.

[Mimi Brown]

That's what I was gonna say.

[DJ Envy]

Parodies, whether it's SNL or all these other comedy centers, they always do it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They can't.

[Just Hilarious]

But what's the problem?

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah, yeah, it's, it's, it's comedy. It's, it's, you know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Satire. Satire.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah, exactly. So I don't know. But anyway, at that same event yesterday, we told you how President Trump was at the Supreme Court, how he was going to go and hear the Justice's argument about his executive order on birthright citizenship, which would end automatic citizenship for some children born in the US So at the same meeting yesterday at the White House, the president touched on that. So as the, the court is now deciding whether a president has the power to make that change without Congress. The president, he weighed in on.

[DJ Envy]

What up, everybody? It's DJ Emmy from the Breakfast Club. Now, you know me and my wife, married 24 years and together over 30. And yes, we still speak on the phone every day. I mean, the early days, I didn't have a cell phone. I couldn't afford a cell phone. And the cell phones were like the size of a, a man's purse. But anyway, I love speaking to my wife over the phone. People say we talk too much, but that's my best friend. Why shouldn't we be able to talk all the time? All day long? 24, 7. But did you know that 2026 will mark the 150th anniversary of the first ever phone call. It took place March 10, 1876. And that call sparked it all for the first long distance phone lines, the first lines across America, the first line across the Atlantic, the first round the world called, the first commercial cell Service, the first 911 system. AT&T has been connecting people for 150 years in so many different ways. Thank God we have cell phones. I can connect to my moms, my pops, and my whole family. Thank you. AT&T.

[Just Hilarious]

Connecting changes everything.

[Mimi Brown]

AT AND T. What he thinks about the justices during the oral arguments yesterday. Let's listen.

[President Trump (clip)]

I didn't realize it's the first time in history that a president went to the Supreme Court. I was really surprised to hear that Supreme Court's not been acting very well, actually. And Republicans, judges and justices, they always want to show that they're independent. I can, I don't care if Trump appointed me. I don't care if he. Doesn't make any difference to me. I'm voting against him because they want to show their independence. You know, stupid people.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The Supreme Court is supposed to be independent.

[Mimi Brown]

Exactly, exactly. So a lot of backlash this morning for that comment from the President. As you pointed out, Charlamagne, the Supreme Court, justices, judges, courts are all supposed to be independent. So there's that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And they're likely to side against him on birthright citizenship from what I was reading yesterday.

[Mimi Brown]

Right, exactly, exactly. So once he heard that the court hearing wasn't going in his favor, they were pushing back, asking a lot of questions. That was the comment that he made. Yes, exactly. And so let's end with history in the making. So NASA is on its way to the moon for astronauts, three Americans and one Canadian. They launched on the Artemis 2 mission, becoming the first humans to head toward the moon in more than 50 years. So they won't land this time. This is just a test flight, but they'll travel at least 250,000 miles from Earth, loop around the moon and come back in about 10 days in space. Now, NASA says this mission is a big step before astronauts actually land on the moon about a decade from now. And the long term goal is to eventually build a base on the moon and send humans to Mars. And so when they circle the moon, this crew will eventually will actually travel further from Earth than any humans in history. The astronauts said that this mission is more than just going to the moon. It's about exploration. Let's listen.

[Arsenio Hall]

When I think about the four of us flying around the far side of the moon, seeing that Earth rise, taking images and video and sending them back to you, the feeling that I have inside is hope. We know that Artemis 2 is not the solution for humanity on planet Earth, but it is a contribution in the positive column. We hope that just for a moment that people will pause and say, wow, it's extraordinary when you look back upon the earth with over 8 billion people and you see this concrete example of what humanity can do, this extraordinary thing when we set big goals.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So listen, Mimi, you said that in a decade they plan to walk on the moon.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah. So this is a test run so that they can. So eventually their long term goal is to eventually build a base on the moon and send humans. But so this is a test run to see exactly, you know, what that may look like.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So they. So, so back in 1969 and 1972, when they told us that, you know, Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin and all them walked on the moon.

[Arsenio Hall]

Right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

In 2026, they haven't figured out how to do that. I would think once you walk on it back in the day in 1969, 1972, you could do it. Now, that leads me to believe that was a lie.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, it's been over 50.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Somebody walked on the goddamn moon. If it's gonna take another 10 years for people to walk on the moon, how we went backwards.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, it took 50 years and we didn't even get it. We didn't even land on the moon this time. We just spun around it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what I'm saying. But they said in 10 years we gonna be on the moon and build a base. When I hear things like that, it just lets me know we are a real primitive species in the grandest schemes of this universe. And I bet you there's something.

[Mimi Brown]

Well, I don't know if it's in a decade, but it's later this decade. So sometime within the next 10 years, they want to eventually land on the moon. They're not doing it this time. So we're all right. They're this time, but within the next decade. That is the goal to.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Actually, they said they already did it back in 69. So what happened? Why are we. Somebody is lying. Okay. There's a great movie, by the way, that stars Scarlett Johansson and Channing Tatum called Take Me to the Moon and it shows how they faked the whole moon landing.

[Dr. Jess]

Oh, wow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I watched it on the plane one time. It's actually a really good movie.

[Mimi Brown]

Okay, well, if you want to follow along, NASA have they set up a live tracker so you can just go to their website or go to the NASA app and you can track the mission in real time and see what's going on and follow the journey and see them loop around the moon that they will not be stopping on just yet.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's AI.

[Mimi Brown]

There you have it.

[Just Hilarious]

All right, y'.

[Mimi Brown]

All. Well, that is your front page news. I'm Mimi Brown. Follow me @mimi Brown TV. And for more stories, follow the Black Information Network.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, it's called Fly Me to the Moon. By the way.

[DJ Envy]

Fly Me to the Moon.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Great movie.

[DJ Envy]

All right, Right now, when we come back, Arsenio hall will be joining us. He has a new memoir out today. It's called Arsenio. And we'll talk to him in a little bit. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody.

[Dr. Jess]

It's DJ Envy. Jess.

[DJ Envy]

Hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Lauren laros is here with us as well. Now we got a special guest, a

[Charlamagne Tha God]

legend icon, an og.

[DJ Envy]

A legend in this game. Ladies and gentlemen, Arsenio Hall.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, sir. How are you feeling, brother?

[Arsenio Hall]

I'm feeling great. I'm thanking God for the day that Charlamagne called me, because I wouldn't have done this without the voice of respect on the other end of the phone. I mean, I'm 70 years old. Could have written a book many times, but that's adult work. Yeah, it's. It's a really hard thing to do. And he talked me into it, and I'm so glad I did for my son and for my legacy, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm so glad you did, too, because I. I want to talk about your legacy today, man. You know, I always say that I got four entertainment icons, right? Jay Z, Clarence Avon, Petey Green, and Arsenio Hall. Wow. And I. I feel like people don't truly understand the risk you took to put black culture at the forefront at a time when nobody was putting black culture at the forefront.

[Arsenio Hall]

Yeah, it was hard. I was coming along at a time when you go to Paramount and say, let's book Bobby Brown the first Friday night, because people won't have to work on Saturday, and to really show them what show this is, he has this song, don't Be Cruel, and my prerogative. Let's let him break one at the top and one at the bottom. Well, Johnny Carson only does three minutes of a song at the end of the show, and I'm like, but I'm not Johnny. I'm not Johnny Carson. So let's try this.

[Caller/Listener]

This.

[Arsenio Hall]

But what was crazier is one of the ladies in the room said, and why would we give a model that much time? And I didn't realize that there was a Bobby Brown in the modeling world.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, no, the makeup artist.

[Arsenio Hall]

Okay.

[Dr. Jess]

Right.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah.

[Arsenio Hall]

So I didn't know her. And I realized my battle is that they have no idea what I'm about to do.

[Dr. Jess]

Yeah.

[Arsenio Hall]

You know, you say Michael Bivens called me, and he got these four dudes. They're called Boys to Men in and. Or Dr. Dre called me and this kid Calvin, and he wants him to come on and do this thing. And this is how, you know, I was not hip to it, but he wants to freestyle. You'll just give him a beat, and he'll just come out of his head with whatever is in the environment. And when his album is ready, then you can have him on to do 1, 2, 3, into the 4 with Dre, you know, And I'm like, okay, we call Snoop, and he doesn't want to do the show. And, like, why? He says, you know, he's talking about the streets of Long Beach. I have respect and I don't want to, you know, I don't want to lose the respect of the streets to do this late night television type stuff. You know, I had to go to the studio and talk him into it. This is a guy who. Snoop Dogg is more popular than Lassie now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, the most popular dog ever. Yeah, he was the most popular dog

[Arsenio Hall]

ever and did not want to be on television. But I'll never forget, he walked in the door with a blue hockey jersey, I remember, and we gave him a beat. And I don't think we'd ever seen freestyle on television, you know, but those kinds of things. I wanted to. I saw a little kid on a tape do an Elvis impression. And I tell Paramount I want to put this kid on. They say, well, you need tune in numbers, names. If you put Prince, you get a tune in number. You can put it in TV Guide two weeks ahead of time. That was the game back then. And if you put some unknown, you know, this is not Star Search. You can't put an unknown kid on until you maybe in the fifth year. And so I would put people on in a monologue and I, I created this little spot where I put people. But the kid was Bruno Mar and, and stuff like that. They didn't want Eddie Griffin because he's too edgy. So during the monologue I said, oh, Eddie Griffin. Because Ed Sullivan used to point in the audience when I was a kid, there's Diana Ross, stand up, Miss Ross. You know. And so I'm like, Eddie Griffin, what's up, man? Hey, come here for a minute. And it's not on the booking sheet. Paramount don't know what's going to happen.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Now.

[Arsenio Hall]

That one backfired on me because Eddie Griffin did Michael Jackson snorting cocaine,

[Dr. Jess]

you

[Arsenio Hall]

know, because he used to be a dancer. So he does that, you know, he does all this little stuff. And the lawyers had a hard time that next day at Paramount because basically he had done a routine on television about Michael Jackson snorting cocaine and dancing really well.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But it was hilarious. Yeah, he was. It was hilarious. You know, we'll never have that kind of monoculture ever again. Everybody is tuned in, watching one thing at once. Cause I remember all those moments. We ain't had no DVRs back then or no On Demand. You couldn't go back and watch it on YouTube.

[DJ Envy]

You had to turn it on. Before we go back to. Cause I like to go back to the beginning so people understand the story.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's why you buy the book.

[Arsenio Hall]

Yeah, but that's why you're in this business.

[DJ Envy]

But you know what? One thing I've noticed. I've watched a lot of your interviews in the last week or so to mine. When I look at your face, I see a light that comes on. It's almost either a surprise light. Like I'm surprised they really with me. Like, you. Like, you look amazed when these guys. Like, I'm thinking myself Arcino. No, no.

[Dr. Jess]

He's the.

[DJ Envy]

You know, g. The icon. And then another thing that pops in my head is, I know you retired. Maybe he's ready for that comeback. Because it's just the feeling, the energy. When I watch you come out and just the light and you're pointing at people and you're pointing at the bed.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm like, God damn it, bring Arsenio back.

[DJ Envy]

So what is going through your mind when you are doing these press runs and you're doing tv? What's going through Arsenio's mind?

[Arsenio Hall]

The light you saw, I mean, that was the light of a fan. The light of a kid from Cleveland who did a talk show in his basement. You know, I had a little record player. I put the record player on. There was a Temptations Greatest Hits album. I'd play Get Ready. I'd come out. I'd do a magic trick. I'd do a joke after taking the needle off the record. And I would entertain the kids in my neighborhood with this talk show show. So you see a guy who's dreamed it all his life and can't believe that I've dreamed it into existence. My mother used to say, if you get good grades, you can go to Detroit and watch the Motown Review with your cousins. For $5, you could see Stevie Wonder. You could see the Temptations. And they give you two pips. Well, sometimes for $5, what you want, right? And that kind of stuff. When you grow up, up. And then you tour with the Temptations. When they had to stand in on the Top tour, Rick James wrote them that track. Then one day, Michael Bivens calls you and says, hey, I got four guys that idolize the Temptations. They're from Philly called Boys to Men, and. But their album's not ready yet. When it's ready, I want to come. I said, oh, I got an idea. If they love the Temptations, I got the Temptations on Thursday. Let them come and blend in with the Temptations.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And.

[Arsenio Hall]

And you can imagine Paramount every night. It was a nightmare because they wanted less Black. Now I got 15. But my thing was, like, I'd rather do six years my way than 20 years Johnny's way. And Johnny dug the show because I wasn't trying to be him. There was never a competition. I was looking for friends of the show. I remember Alan King, a legendary old comic, called me, and he says, your show put out an offer to me, and I just want you to know I love what you're doing, but I'm a Johnny guy. And that's when it hit me. You gotta get your guys. And so that's when I started trying to go for the audience that didn't have a talk show. And that made it work, you know, because I'd been the Ed McMahon figure on a thing called Thick of the Night, you know, where I was. And so. So I got to watch it go on, and I got to learn from Alan's experience. Don't try to be Johnny. Try to come up with an alternative. By the way, when I was working for Alan Thicke, there was a little boy. I brought Johnny Gill on Alan Thicke's show. I met Johnny Gill in Cleveland with Gerald Lavert. I bring Johnny Gill on the show, and he gets numbers and that let me know, hey, it's not that black people don't get numbers. It's that we ain't trying to. He came on with Stacy Ladisaw, and they did perfect combination. On the side, there's a little white boy with a Cubs cap on. It's Alan Thicke's son, who always surfaced when there was R and B on the show. That was Robin Thicke. That's another example of how we know who we are. We know who we want to be. And that kid then knew he was Dwight. Marvin Gaye.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Is this book. Is your memoir closure for you, or is it correction?

[Arsenio Hall]

A lot of correction. I don't know if I. Yeah, a little closure, too, because I loved putting that letter of resignation. A lot of people, barbershop journalists would say, well, you know, one night he snuck Farrakhan in there. Fairmont didn't know about it, you know, and interview Farrakhan. And, you know, when the fact is Paramount has to greenlight that, they have to approve that. And so all the barbershop journalism you get, because basically, studios. People think studios are above the fray.

[Dr. Jess]

Yeah.

[Arsenio Hall]

And. And what they don't understand is that studios just like a relationship. You ever break up with somebody and then you hear that he said, I left her because I was sick of her.

[Dr. Jess]

No, no, no.

[Arsenio Hall]

Unfortunately, businesses like that Too. They want to position it sexy their way. And they say, oh, we'll. We'll come over Tuesday and we'll talk about crafting a release to the press of what we're going to do from here on. And then Monday, some come out and you're like, you. You know, but I get to correct those kind of things and. And, yeah, and have closure, too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Cuz Aro actually quit the show. And I remember when you first told me that, in my mind, I'm like, yeah, really?

[Arsenio Hall]

When I heard. When I heard that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That little.

[Arsenio Hall]

Look, that little thing that. That dental tungular thing you did, I. I had my woman go in the garage and I said, you got to find that letter. And she found it.

[Just Hilarious]

Because there were so many people that believed that, though, that. That you didn't quit the show. If you had never written this book, how would you have ever, like, tried to clear it up any other place? Like, was that something that was sitting with you for a while?

[Dr. Jess]

Yeah.

[Arsenio Hall]

And I had a lawyer say, why do you care? Look at your bank account. Why do you care there?

[Dr. Jess]

And.

[Arsenio Hall]

And I'm like, because truth matters.

[Dr. Jess]

Yeah.

[Arsenio Hall]

And I mean, forget television. We as a people, the Puerto Rican gentleman. Also,

[Charlamagne Tha God]

let's talk about our board oper. We.

[Arsenio Hall]

We as a people have to be careful not to let truth be buried. Mine is insignificant. How about the history of our people and the way it's being changed, buried and hidden, hidden from future children. Truth is important. It's important when it's on y' all's side. So let it be important for us, too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

By the way, either way you left, is gangster walking away because, hey, man, I want to do my black stuff. If it ain't working for y', all, it ain't gonna work for me. I'm out. Or, yeah, I bought Farrakhan on one one time. Either way works.

[Arsenio Hall]

Oh, yeah, yeah. You get a free bean pie for that second version. Brothers be very, very, very supportive of you. But, you know, here's the deal. Here's how you can understand it. At the end of the day, entertainment is cool, but Quincy used to tell me the word business is larger than the word show. And my ratings and my income were attached. The higher the number, the more money I get. When Letterman gets cbs, because I'm in syndication now, I'm on. I'm on stations most places, but my CBS stations help me succeed. When Letterman comes into the game and all my CBS stations leave at the end of their term, I'm like, what am I gonna do now? And so basically, and the money goes down, and now you're like, well, I have to look at a movie every night and read a Jackie Collins book. I'm like, I don't know if it's worth it for a million a year, you know? And the bottom line is, I dashed when the money also, I'm from Cleveland.

[Caller/Listener]

Cleveland.

[Arsenio Hall]

I grew up down the street from Jim Brown. And I watched him leave on Top. I watched him start doing movies when they were still calling him to the locker room. I always wanted to leave on Top. So the bottom line, when the money changed a little bit and the numbers changed a little bit, and I didn't see a future for syndication because I'm like, they're gonna put somebody at abc. I'm gonna lose those affiliate too. So eventually there's a Kimmel and there's a Letterman. And the bottom line is the money change. Let's do something else.

[Dr. Jess]

Yeah.

[Arsenio Hall]

I've gotten six years out of this.

[Dr. Jess]

This.

[Arsenio Hall]

I've been on the COVID of Time magazine. I spent two years knowing I was leaving and building a house on the beach. And bottom line is, I'm cool with how it all went down.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was always shocked that Fox just didn't get into the Late Night Game.

[Arsenio Hall]

It's funny, I just sat with Conan o' Brien and he told me a cool story. He says he was in a lunchroom cafeteria at Fox and he says, you were very nice to me. You won't remember me, me, but I was getting coffee and you showed me where other stuff was. What I didn't realize is while I was taking over for Joan Rivers and doing the Late show because she eventually got fired and her husband killed himself, you remember all that stuff. I'm doing the Late Show. I'm doing the last 11 weeks of her contract before I go to do Coming to America. Conan had been hired to create a show to replace me. So while I was there, they had decided that I wasn't the guy.

[Caller/Listener]

Wow.

[Arsenio Hall]

And they created a thing called the Wilton North Report. I went and did Coming to America and Paramount was like, when we finished this, if you want a talk show, let's try it in syndication now. Something in syndication will never work again. Other than Byron Allen. No one's gonna ever be able to make syndication money because the network's got it. You know, it. When I came into it, CBS and ABC didn't want to be in the Late Night game, so they bought my shirt. You know, it was a perfect time. Life is all about timing.

[Dr. Jess]

Yeah.

[Arsenio Hall]

And effort.

[DJ Envy]

Now you Mentioned Coming to America, My favorite movie of all time. Right, let's talk about that movie and how it came together. And what was the decision to play so many different characters for both you and Eddie?

[Arsenio Hall]

The decision for me to play characters was Eddie saying, yeah, him too. That's cool, you know, because he's the king, you know, but the movie, the. The movie was all hinged on the fact that America missed Eddie doing characters. They wanted that again.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I remember that for now.

[Arsenio Hall]

Yeah, yeah. And I remember his manager saying to me, they want Eddie to do characters, so when you guys go to America, he'll be some of the people that you meet. And I'm like, that's really cool. Now I'm just a straight out, stand up. I'm not an impressionist and I'm not an actor character. I was honored when he asked me to also do some characters, but that movie was supposed to be me as, you know, like a personal assistant or an undersized bodyguard. Coming to America from Zamunda with Eddie. He saw me do stand up, and I did this bit about going to church in Chicago and going to the south side. So I do this preacher character and he's like, that's all it is, man. You know, we do the prosthetics and you do that, and you're a preacher, you know, and of course, my. My dad was a Baptist preacher. And so at any moment, I'm ready to preach.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was laughing the other day because I saw you post a video. You was like, I'm. I'm walking like the preacher and coming to America, but not because I'm pretending.

[Arsenio Hall]

Life. Life is crazy. Because, you know, at one point you're in your 20s and you're standing in front of a mirror. Jess, you've been through this. Stand in front of a mirror. You're practicing the character. You're looking at how Red fox walks and you're breaking it down. And then one day you turn 70 and you realize, now that's my walk.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But if loving you is wrong, I don't want to be right.

[Just Hilarious]

I was going to ask Coming to America, I. I read somewhere, I think was one of the interviews you did or something thing. It almost didn't happen, though, a couple times at first because of the pitch. And then there was an issue with Eddie Murphy and somebody on set.

[Arsenio Hall]

Yeah, well, you know, they wanted him to do characters and. And that made the treatment perfection. And. And he decided different things I can do when we come to America. And the other thing you reference is he had A conflict with Landis. And Landis is a brilliant director, and they work that out. Thank God.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, thank God.

[Arsenio Hall]

My business manager thanks God every day for me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Crazy, right?

[DJ Envy]

Residuals brought.

[Dr. Jess]

Not.

[Arsenio Hall]

Not as crazy as one might think.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, okay.

[Arsenio Hall]

You know, but because you see it all the time on VH1 and on things owned by Skydance, I guess it is now. By the way, the checks that he gets are probably what you just described, you know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Arsenio Hall]

But the bottom line is I was a lucky actor to be involved. And mine sometimes would be 13 cent.

[Dr. Jess]

In your show. Right. Has there ever been anybody that would talk about you, but then one come on your show and you didn't let it happen?

[Arsenio Hall]

Yeah, once.

[Dr. Jess]

Okay.

[Arsenio Hall]

Yeah, one time. But. But for the most part, you know. What?

[Dr. Jess]

Who?

[Arsenio Hall]

Oh, I forgot her name. It was somebody who, you know, now that I think maybe there are jokes that were too much, but I forgot it. But she was a comic.

[Dr. Jess]

Okay. Oh, another comedian.

[Arsenio Hall]

Yeah, it was. It was a young comic. And I was like, no, not. No. Keep that same energy.

[Dr. Jess]

Yeah.

[Arsenio Hall]

When you was calling me the F word on stage, you know, but.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Gay slur from the 90s.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah.

[Arsenio Hall]

Which is rough on a black man because, you know, you know, that whole history, I was one of those guys that would put the business before my personal feelings. I've had Spike Lee call me an Uncle Tom, but when it's time for Spike Lee to promote his, I'm like, dude, I'm here. Come on. You know, as a matter of fact, Spike was mad at me because I probably didn't give him the date. I think he wanted a certain date. And it sweeps and. And, oh, that date's taken that Friday night, and he got mad at me and, you know, call me and Uncle Tom, and it's like, you would think that we would never speak, but I walked up to him at a Laker game, a Laker Knicks game, Grabbed him. Dude, come on through sometime. Next price.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I never understood that, though. Like, how could Spike Lee call Arsenio hall an Uncle Tom? Like you was doing do the right thing every night the way you was fighting for black. Yeah, I know. Yeah.

[President Trump (clip)]

Yeah.

[Arsenio Hall]

And, you know, like I said, he. People, you make mistakes. You say stuff. A lot of times we. By the fact when I hugged him, we talked, and it was over. You realize in the moment he said that because he didn't get the date he wanted to promote, you know, whatever the movie.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Uncle Tom is strong, especially when you

[Just Hilarious]

already had people that were feeling like that about you. So for him to echo it it made it, you know, bigger.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Arsenio Hall]

And. And that's probably why he went for that. That Achilles heel or that spot, you know, But. But I think sometimes to hold a grudge, you have to keep that ugly thing with you.

[Dr. Jess]

Yeah.

[Arsenio Hall]

Sometimes it's. It's easier for you to let it go.

[DJ Envy]

She don't have to go, guys.

[Mimi Brown]

Okay, wait.

[Just Hilarious]

I was trying to. I've been trying to get this in. You got really personal. Just about, like a dating life as well, too. In this book, you talk about Pamela Anderson and Paula. Paula Abdul and.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And what?

[Arsenio Hall]

By the way, one of the reasons. Reasons I wanted to tell the Pamela Anderson story is because I don't know if it's changed, but the older comics, that was it. That was the kind of advice. It's like, yo, Johnny Witherspoon in this book, he stay away from white women. You know, and you're a young. You're like, okay, you know, because there were no white women in my neighborhood.

[DJ Envy]

Night.

[Arsenio Hall]

I didn't know why. And of course, the night I walked into the Comedy Store with Pamela Anderson, Donnie Witherspoon looked at me and. And did that tungular thing that you. What'd I tell you? You know, and. And just I wanted to take people through that growth process of. Of what the OGs told you.

[Just Hilarious]

And you just had to dip in.

[Dr. Jess]

You talking about, like,

[Arsenio Hall]

me and Tupac had an argument because Tupac in an article said something about Quincy and Arsenio and some of these brothers and these white women you see with white. You know, it's like, back then, that was a no, no to the older brothers who were talking to you, and, and they were trying to tell you that's a problem, you know, that, you know, and. And it was. Some people in your demo will not like you if they see you in Jet magazine with a Playmate.

[Dr. Jess]

Yeah.

[Arsenio Hall]

You know, so he was trying to protect me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's definitely the real story of Arsenio Hall. It's not just about, you know, a guy with a late night show, man. Go get Arsenio a memoir available everywhere. You buy books now. And just salute to you, my brother.

[Arsenio Hall]

Absolutely. I don't even know how you got my number. Thank you for the call because you gave me something to do for a couple years, man. And it was a lot of fun, and I think I did it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, I'm glad you did it. No, this is one of the best entertainment memoirs I've ever read in my life. That is said with no bias. Not just bias for publishing it. Not biased because I look at you as an inspiration, but this is actually one of the best entertainment memoirs I ever read in my life.

[Arsenio Hall]

Could I just add one more thing? When you talk about dreaming and teaching and what the book does and all that kind of stuff, what you just said is important. A black man saying to me on the phone, I want to do this because I want more black authors. I want more books in the hands of Nubian people. What you did, calling me was so important and to do it with you. And that's what I told my public. Listen, I gotta do it because he's trying to do something, and I believe in what he's trying to do. And I knew your history and your parents being educators, and it was so. It's so important for us. Sometimes we don't work together. We will work with anybody but our own. I don't know why. And, you know, And there's a lot of that in us even when we don't say it. But I, with this, and we got

[Charlamagne Tha God]

a good book, freed me a long time ago because I, you know, I used to want to do late night television because I senior hall. So, you know, you do radio, then you get a talk show and you think like, I gotta make it as a late night host. Gotta make it as a late night host. And when you was on press for coming to America too, somebody asked you, they said, you know, who do you think is like the closest to you in this generation? And you said, I would say somebody like Charlemagne. But he does radio and you watch it on YouTube. YouTube. And, you know, that's like where people go to get, I guess that. That so called late night fix. I remember you said that. And I was like, yo, I'm.

[Arsenio Hall]

Hey, that song, everything must change. Yeah, the business is that way, too. That late night format that Johnny created, he was the king. But for budget reasons and for the advancement of technology, this has to change. And. And what you're doing now, when Tupac would call me on the landline and say, I need to come on the show, man, because they trying to make me take an AIDS test before I do poetic justice. And I ain't gonna really, Janet. Right, okay. So why should I have to take an AIDS test? And back then, we didn't have the word Twitter. We didn't have that. It wasn't a bluebird, it was a blackbird. I was the guy you called and came in, talked about your problems or the business of what you were going through. Ice T coming on and explaining. Cop killer explaining, you know, I'M not really killing cops. Arnold Schwarzenegger ain't really the Terminator. This is a piece of art trying to give a message. And so what I was doing, when I watch you, when I listen to you, I'm like, he's doing it. And the medium has come to a different place. You know, there's no curtain. There's no Ed McMahon. There's no Doc Severinson. But what Charlamagne is doing is what I did for this time, for this culture, and. And look how it's evolved.

[Dr. Jess]

Yeah.

[Arsenio Hall]

You know, I mean, we got the two ladies now. And of course, Envy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It was a freeing for me because it just teaches you you don't always have to be chasing something. And it goes back to gratitude. Gratitude turns what we have into enough.

[Arsenio Hall]

Hello.

[Caller/Listener]

There you have it.

[DJ Envy]

Arsenio hall, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you so much for joining us. The memoir is out right now. Make sure you pick it up, up. And we appreciate you og so much.

[Dr. Jess]

Thank you.

[Arsenio Hall]

Thank you, man. I appreciate y'.

[Caller/Listener]

All.

[Just Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Arsenio Hall]

And I'm glad to finally meet the other three of the foursome in person.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah.

[Dr. Jess]

Thank you.

[Arsenio Hall]

And the Puerto Rican dude with the Boston.

[DJ Envy]

I'm glad to reach you.

[Arsenio Hall]

It's the Breakfast Club.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Is Arsenio hall, ladies and gentlemen. Go pick up Arsenio Hall's memoir, Arsenio Man. Available everywhere. You buy books now.

[Dr. Jess]

He was so happy to meet me. I was like, oh, my God. Because I was so happy to meet you. Came in the room, he said, my girl Jess. I said, my man, Arsenio, period.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The way you make everything about you.

[Dr. Jess]

No, I did not. He was so. I was so hyped because he walked.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This is so disgusting. You couldn't let Arsenalio live for 30 seconds.

[Dr. Jess]

Yo, get his book.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yo, go to the latest man. This is. You're talking LL Cool Babe.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah.

[Just Hilarious]

I'm not dumbing myself down. I'm being myself. I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything and everything.

[Dr. Jess]

Little brown girls look at you and

[Just Hilarious]

go, I want to be like you.

[Dr. Jess]

Take me through that. Take me through that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The latest with Laura on the Breakfast Club. LL Cool baby, talk to me, okay? You put a face on.

[Just Hilarious]

I had a face on, and you didn't even notice it. So don't start now, okay? Focus on what's important here.

[DJ Envy]

Focus, focus, focus.

[Just Hilarious]

So Nicki Minaj. This is really scary, y'.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All.

[Just Hilarious]

So police rushed to Nicki Minaj's home yesterday morning after they got a call about a trespasser that was Wandering on her property. So there was a man in the police call. There was a man that was on her property seen on camera in the backyard of her house. They described two. They described that this man was a white male with a big red beard and long hair. He was wearing a gray tracksuit. So police, you know, got to the the home and he was arrested on the scene.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That sound Maggie to me. I'm be honest with you, Capital R. White to me.

[Just Hilarious]

Sounds very January 6th, but yeah, so Nicki was not home at the time, though luckily Nicki Minaj was not home at the time. So. Yeah, there's that recording.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You can't never.

[Dr. Jess]

That's crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, be. Be too safe nowadays. No, I just be wondering where people's security be at, I guess, probably.

[DJ Envy]

But she wasn't home. So I'm sure she has a security system. That's why they've seen who was in her house.

[Just Hilarious]

But I would feel like Nicki Minaj and certain people still leave full security at their house even when they're not there. No, that's not how it works.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Especially with what just happened with Rihanna. This.

[Dr. Jess]

This was her house in la.

[Just Hilarious]

Yeah, this is the house in la.

[Dr. Jess]

It seemed like every week, every, like few days, like we hear about somebody trying to either break in a celebrity's house or pulling up to one of them celebrities houses. It's so dangerous.

[Just Hilarious]

Yeah, it is.

[Dr. Jess]

Well, she wasn't home though, right?

[Just Hilarious]

Yeah, exactly. Well, in other news. So J. Cole. Yesterday it was announced that J. Cole signed a contract to play in the Chinese Basketball Association. Sources tell espn. I know that's the association is the Nanjing Monkey. K teams.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I hate the name of that team.

[Dr. Jess]

What?

[Just Hilarious]

I thought I was gonna mess it up so bad. That's why I skipped it.

[Dr. Jess]

What? But they be playing basketball like they have a team, like.

[DJ Envy]

All right, keep going.

[Dr. Jess]

He gonna be the tallest one on the team, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This ain't the first time J. Cole played ball. Joke. J. Cole's on a couple of teams.

[DJ Envy]

She's not talking about that.

[Dr. Jess]

Yeah, with the Chinese. You said Chinese, right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. Ming was 7 6.

[Dr. Jess]

I know the multi means though. You know, a lot of them.

[DJ Envy]

Jeremy Lynn played for the Knicks, played for the Lakers. He got busy.

[Dr. Jess]

All right, all right, well, that's good. Good luck to them.

[Just Hilarious]

J. Cole had committed to playing a few games for the Chinese team last year, but now he's following through. This is the third time that he's played on a professional sports league. He played in Rwanda with the Rwanda Patriots. He also played for The Scar, Scarborough Shooting Stars, the Canadian Elite basketball league. In 2022, he played back in high school North Carolina, which he's been talking a lot about on this press run.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think life. I think that's dope, because that's what life is about. Absolutely. Putting yourself in position to be. Be able to do whatever it is the hell you want to do.

[DJ Envy]

That's right.

[Just Hilarious]

Yes. Well, in other news. Kanye West. I've been talking a lot about Kanye west and bully. Well, the Sofi Stadium show went down last night, and it was a scene just in attendance alone.

[DJ Envy]

Right.

[Just Hilarious]

Erykah Badu was there. She thanked Bianca Sori, who is Kanye West's wife, for inviting her. I saw Kynette there as well. Travis Scott came out with Kanye West. Northwest stage came out with Kanye West. But the stage was the scene, not just because Kanye west was on the stage, but the visual, like, of the stage. So it was set up like a Earth, right?

[Dr. Jess]

Oh, wow.

[Just Hilarious]

And Kanye is in the middle of the earth. And it changed colors, and it was moving, and it was. It was. It was amazing.

[DJ Envy]

How do you get on there, though? How do you get on that stage?

[Just Hilarious]

I'm not for sure. I couldn't figure that part.

[DJ Envy]

It's like a bubble for people that can't say this. It's like a bubble so you can't walk up it. You almost have to be dropped on it, which is dope.

[Dr. Jess]

This is fire.

[Just Hilarious]

Yeah. No. And it was packed. Over 60,000 people. People there. Yes. But there was a moment during the show where Kanye had to get with the lighting team. Let's take a listen.

[DJ Envy]

Yo, I don't like these. When the lights move like that, like

[Charlamagne Tha God]

a disco, they don't go with the stage. Don't do that.

[Dr. Jess]

Stop doing that. Sorry, guys.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Run it back like we always do with this time. That. Stop, stop, stop, stop.

[Dr. Jess]

You see that when it does that? Don't do that.

[DJ Envy]

That's corny.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I run it like we always do with this time. I go for mine. I got to shine now. Throw your hands up.

[Arsenio Hall]

Is this like a SNL skit or something?

[DJ Envy]

Stop doing the vibrating Vegas lights, bro.

[Dr. Jess]

Like, we went over this in rehearsal.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, put the earth on.

[Arsenio Hall]

But, yeah, I run it back like

[Charlamagne Tha God]

we always do with this time. I'll take that Kanye rant over any other Kanye any. Any day.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, that wasn't too bad. That's just his art.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm cool with that. That's the most beautiful thing about this evening. He great. Did a great show.

[DJ Envy]

He performed, went through all the hits.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's it.

[Just Hilarious]

Yes. So shout out to Kanye Weston. Congratulations to him. He's headed to do the wireless fest next. And I know the London mayor was trying to distance himself from all of that in that decision, but he's there. It' happening on July 10th through 12th. I've been seeing some fans talking about the fact that Jay Z and Kanye have shows on the same day in different places. But, yeah, he's back outside, so.

[Dr. Jess]

Hey, yo, what if. What if the rehearsal that he told them to do that, but hey, like, how it looked in real time. So we try to blame it on them. That would be funny. That's some Kanye ish.

[Just Hilarious]

Very much so. And I did see a projection, too. They're projecting that Bully will be hitting very highly in the Billboard top 200. I believe it. It was reported, or it's being reported that he's going to be potentially within the top 20. I love it.

[Dr. Jess]

Did you finish this into it? You did listen to it. I had. I finally finished it. It's like a soundtrack album. Like, it can be used for, like, anime or action movies. You know what I'm saying?

[DJ Envy]

Like, he always.

[Dr. Jess]

I love it, Love it.

[Just Hilarious]

I love it. Yeah. So let me correct myself. It's more than 20. He's projected to debut number two on the Billboard 200 chart. That's projected. So we'll see what happens. But that's it for the latest.

[DJ Envy]

That is the latest.

[Dr. Jess]

Happy birthday, Marvin Gay, y'.

[Mimi Brown]

All.

[Dr. Jess]

He would have been 87.

[Just Hilarious]

Okay.

[Dr. Jess]

Yes. We can get some Marvin Gay on in the queue. Do a little Marvin Gay Mix envy little Marvin. Do a little Marvin Gay cuz. What's going on? We got Inner city blues. We have a lot of other things, too.

[Caller/Listener]

All right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, every time you talk, I want to run to the store to get you some cigarettes in the lottery.

[Just Hilarious]

I tell Jess that before she got

[Dr. Jess]

so mad, I'm like, you do give

[Charlamagne Tha God]

that something like the voice wasn't always like that. But now it's like every time you talk.

[DJ Envy]

Me some cigarettes, certain jokes.

[Just Hilarious]

Yes.

[Dr. Jess]

Like, sugar high.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So I don't want to get you a honey.

[DJ Envy]

My goodness.

[Dr. Jess]

I'm just saying. Marvin Gay. What? I just remembered I have a honey

[Just Hilarious]

bun in the refrigerator. That's nothing.

[President Trump (clip)]

We're done.

[Dr. Jess]

See, y' all talking about I get high.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You a big back. All right.

[DJ Envy]

Charlemagne donkey today. Who you giving that donkey?

[Caller/Listener]

You too.

[DJ Envy]

She big back. Let her go.

[Dr. Jess]

Look at the way sh.

[DJ Envy]

Look at her thought.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I get saliva now.

[DJ Envy]

All right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Four hours of the hour. There's a young woman named Niana Allen Bailey. She needs to come to the front of the congregation. She is a prime example that you know your trauma is not your fault, but your healing is absolutely your responsibility. We'll discuss.

[DJ Envy]

All right, everybody else, we'll do that when we come back. And don't forget, also, just fix my mess. 800-585-1051. If you need any type of advice, call her right now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[Dr. Jess]

Your execution on the donkey of the

[Arsenio Hall]

day is something to behold.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Is it a read?

[Just Hilarious]

He gave me Dunkey of the day

[Mimi Brown]

and I deserved it.

[Dr. Jess]

People need to know. Well, you need to tell them I am because you have the voice. Tell them.

[Arsenio Hall]

Tell them it's time for donkey of the day.

[Dr. Jess]

It's a read, but you're so good

[Charlamagne Tha God]

at it, you're trying to be a fake ass. Charlamagne. There's only one Charlemagne involved.

[Just Hilarious]

Damn Charlemagne.

[Dr. Jess]

Who you giving donkey of the day to, Nanny?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, sexyy red. Donkey of the day for Wednesday, April 2 goes to a Seattle woman named Nianna Allen bailey. Okay? She's 20 years old.

[Dr. Jess]

Old.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And she pleaded guilty to second degree murder in the tragic killing of 52 year old Amari Guetta. Okay, first things first. Rest in peace to Armory Guetta. It saddens me that your life was tragically cut short for absolutely nothing. Let's go to ABC Ford News for the report, please.

[J]

Prosecutors played this song in court. It's from a 10 year old boy singing to his father, Amari Garbage, hoping he is now in a safe place after being killed while working as a rideshare driver in Seattle in August of 2023. The emotional family pleading with the court to hold 20 year old Nayana Alan Bailey accountable.

[Arsenio Hall]

Today, there's only one life sentence and that was for Mr. Gettin.

[J]

Alan Bailey was 18 at the time. Videos show her walking down First Avenue south, then approaching Gaeta's car where he'd stopped to take a break from his shift as a Lyft driver. Alan Bailey approaches the door, shoots him, then steals the car. She then used the stolen car to go to Walmart, buy an Xbox and an Apple watch, and then got her hair cut. Esguetta's family and police wondered who could have murdered him and why. Within days, they found the car and arrested Allen Bailey. She denied killing him at first, but later admitted to what had happened at her sentencing hearing. The defense said she was high on Xanax, marijuana, mushrooms and drunk on tequila at the time of the murder.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Young woman she was 18 at the time. Killed a human, left him to die in the street and drove around in that person's car for a few days running errands, you heard? Went to go buy video games and went to go get their hair done. Like, this is why you can't just stay safe, okay? You got to stay dangerous. I don't care how old they are, okay? Don't play with them. All right? Keep your guard up at all times. Okay? You heard the news report. Court record said Niana approached Gita's car, shot him, then stole the car and left him to die in the street. Now, when I hear stories like this, I have to hear more details. Even though I know people are sick and they're violent, just pure evil, My mind sometimes won't let me just accept that. So when I saw that defense attorneys called a doctor to testify about Niana's drug use, I was like, okay, now it's starting to come together. 18 years old, drug use. The doctor said Nianna was abusing alcohol and drugs. You heard it. Xanax, Percocet, mushrooms, tequila. She was high out of her mind. Before killing Gita, defense attorneys outlined Allen Bailey's childhood also. Okay. Which involved police responding to her home on reports of abandonment and drug use. The defense said Ms. Allen Bailey has known nothing but a life of neglect. She deserved better. This is why I couldn't be a lawyer. Okay? I am extremely sorry. Nianna's life was the way it was. But just because you experienced hurt as a child doesn't mean you get to become. Become the adult that hurts people. Okay? 18 is an adult. All right? I completely overstand the trauma. All right, Niana. Experience. But we have to remember our trauma is not our fault. But our healing is absolutely our responsibility. This young lady never even stood a chance. Okay, Niana, you was out here being a reflection of your depression. You was out here being a reflection of your dark. You was out here being a reflection of your ugly. And all that should be taken into consideration. I wish you had gotten some help before you took a life. But man, none of that is a get out of jail free card, okay? You must deal with the consequences of your actions. Sometimes I wish humans had a kill switch. Meaning that whenever you are about to commit a senseless act of murder, okay. You die first, all right? Right there on the spot. As soon as you are about to take somebody out. You know, the same way they have those kill switches that are anti theft. Those safety devices that interrupt the vehicles vital circuits and prevent it from Starting. We need that same thing for you humans, okay? As soon as you're about to commit a heinous act of violence against someone for no reason, everything shuts off, okay? Hearts, lungs, kidneys, every critical organ just fails. That's what I wish would happen, but that's not reality, okay? The reality is people are hurting and they are projecting that hurt onto other people. But that's not an excuse to take a man away from his family. I, I understand you was 18, but I, I, I don't care, all right? This brother had two kids, okay? Niana, you didn't just steal a car. You stole a father away from his family. All right? A life that's never coming back. A family destroyed forever. I understand the picture the defense attorney is painting for you, but this story isn't about you. It's about the life that was taken. Yes, trauma can explain behavior, but it doesn't excuse it. You know, I'm a big advocate for mental health. I understand you was on drugs, but I don't care. There, okay? You wanted to escape reality so bad that you destroyed someone else's reality forever. Now you have to deal with the consequences of that. Please give Niana Allen Bailey the biggest he haw. And that's why it's very important for, you know, kids to get help early. But also, listen to the adults in your life because I guarantee you, somebody might have been trying to get through through to this young woman for a while while.

[DJ Envy]

That's right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And now she's made a decision that is going to cost her 20 years of her life.

[Dr. Jess]

All of those drugs, like, that's at one time.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I'm wondering what she hide for the next few days for her just to go live her life like it was nothing.

[Dr. Jess]

Of course I do. I believe that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You have to go buy an Xbox, right?

[Dr. Jess]

Get your hair cut like, oh, get it done. Oh, I was gonna say so she was a stud, but dad, then you got shrooms. You got what? You got liquor. What else you say? Xanax.

[DJ Envy]

It's just crazy.

[Dr. Jess]

Like, damn, were you trying to kill. Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Mushrooms.

[Dr. Jess]

What you running away from?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[President Trump (clip)]

All right.

[DJ Envy]

Well, thank you for that donkey today, Charlemagne. Now when we come back, just fix my mess. If you need relationship advice or any type of advice, call her right now. 800-585-1051 is the breakfast Club. Good morning.

[Dr. Jess]

Relationship problems.

[Arsenio Hall]

Ask about me.

[Dr. Jess]

If you need to beat your co worker's ass.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Ask about me.

[Dr. Jess]

Your coworker need to beat your ass. Call it up. It's Dr. Jess. And I'm here to fix your mess. Fix your mess. It's getting very much messy. Let me fix this.

[DJ Envy]

Morning, everybody.

[Dr. Jess]

It's DJ Envy.

[DJ Envy]

Just hilarious. Charlemagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Now. It's time for Just Fix My Mess. And we have Nicole on the line. Nicole, good morning.

[Caller/Listener]

Good morning, Charlemagne. Good morning, CJ. Envy just on 10. Here's your update.

[Dr. Jess]

Hello, Ani, how are you?

[Caller/Listener]

Refresh your memory just real quick. Me and my husband are getting ready for our oldest to graduate from high school. So he was setting up the. One of the graduation requirements, and he needed to get my face because I'm the one who does all of the information. So text messages come through his phone and says, babe, I don't feel so well. And I never said nothing to him.

[Dr. Jess]

Yes, I do remember, this is the work. Basically, like the word. The work wife situation.

[Caller/Listener]

Yep, exactly.

Got it.

Okay. So now he came in the house. It's like after 1 o'. Clock. Class is over at 11. I wake up, he's not there. I call him, he don't answer. He come in the house, he put the alarm on. And I go over there to him, I'm like, why are you just getting in the house? After. After one o', clock, he said, oh, I had to work late. I had to close up. And then I wanted to get something to eat. I cook every time. You could have ate what? I could, however. Then I said, okay. I said, you want to play like you're single? I said, I'm done. I walked back in the room. He slept on the couch. I woke up to a text message saying, let's do marriage counseling. I agreed to it. That was about three weeks ago. He still hasn't made the appointment for marriage counseling. I'm still trying to save up money, so I'll be leaving in July. Should I believe him? Leave him? We've been married for, like. Like we've been together for 24 years. Married for 19.

[Dr. Jess]

Yeah, I feel. This is gonna sound crazy. I just feel like I'm not gonna. Okay, let's start.

[Caller/Listener]

I don't wanna just dump the relationship of the years that we've been through. It's my best friend. But even after, like, what are you. You trying to be with another girl? For what? Like.

[Dr. Jess]

Well, you know, usually after he's not

[Caller/Listener]

his girlfriend,

[Dr. Jess]

in some cases, when you've been married for a long time. Like that.

[Just Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Dr. Jess]

Both men and women, they. They seek outside comfort, you know, to, like, you know, they be wanting to see if they still got It. Or just being with the same person, like, to some people, you know, for so long. And, you know, people end up craving something new, especially if it's right up under their nose every day. And he go to work with this lady, you know, he worked with this girl, and she's probably younger. She's probably, you know, making passes at him.

[Caller/Listener]

Younger. She is younger, right?

[Dr. Jess]

Absolutely. Now, what I don't like. Right. Is that. And I'm not justifying what I just said does not justify his behavior. But what I don't like is he texted you. You said you. You woke up to a text that said, let's do marriage counseling. First of all, I wouldn't even let you go to sleep without saying that to you. I wouldn't. You know, I. I wouldn't have. That's not a text. That's something that you. When. When you wake up, you open up your eyes. He should have been right on the other side of the bed ready to have that conversation with you, like, yo, okay, listen, I heard what. I don't want you to leave. I really don't. Let's do marriage counseling. Because it would sound much better. It would be way more impactful, and you would believe it more if he were to say it to you, not text it to you because you threatened to leave him the night before.

[Caller/Listener]

If you really want to do it, why haven't you made the appointment yet? You still haven't made an appointment. It's like you're trying to brush it under the rug to where it's just like, okay, we're going to keep going because we need to get out together.

[Dr. Jess]

Because. Yeah, because that was to keep you holding on a little bit longer, you know? You know what I'm saying? This is just like a temporary. A temporary band aid, you know what I mean? But I think what you should do is you should leave. And then you see how he acts. And notice is not a test. It's actually a test for you as well to see how strong you are without him. Because, I mean, it's cliche, but it's been a saying that's been around forever. Like, you can do battle by yourself. You're not happy.

[Caller/Listener]

What.

[Dr. Jess]

Why are you staying? Why are you putting yourself through this? And then he keeps leading you on, doing just the next. Enough to shut you up for a while until the next thing come. Because, like, why didn't you answer the phone? Why. Why didn't you. Oh, I was trying to get, like, come on, I've been married for you. I'm married to you for 19 years. We've been together for 24 years. Like I. I know you, you know me well, and I know you. So you should. I think you should leave. And this and this attest to you. It'll be a test to him as well. But it's more so a test to you to see how strong you are without him. Because what if he does? You don't come back? Then what then? And if you're just doing that to test him, then that's for nothing. You need to test yourself as well. Like, look like, can you be without him? I mean, I know this your best friend, but best friends don't treat best friends like that, you know?

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah. Yeah, that's what I was thinking too. Because I'm like, if you, if you really want to do marriage counseling, I check my insurance, don't do it. Yours do. You would have made the appointment by now. It's been three weeks.

[Dr. Jess]

Absolutely.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think just gave some good advice. But just know that man got somewhere to go if you leave, okay?

[Just Hilarious]

Right.

[Dr. Jess]

So that's why she need to leave anyway. Okay, well, since he gonna go there

[Charlamagne Tha God]

anyway, give him some time to spend with his little girlfriend for a couple days.

[DJ Envy]

Good luck, mama. Have that conversation with him like Jess said.

[Dr. Jess]

Right.

[Caller/Listener]

Okay. All right. I appreciate you, Jess.

[Dr. Jess]

No problem. I need another follow up. When you move out, when you leave, I need to know what happened.

[DJ Envy]

Jess, fix my mess.

[Dr. Jess]

How would you hang up?

[DJ Envy]

What? Cause you was closing.

[Arsenio Hall]

Go ahead.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I appreciate the fact that she's not too concerned about her husband and his girlfriend though.

[Dr. Jess]

What do you mean?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She don't sound too concerned. She sound like she want to work on her relationship. Like she's. Like she's. And that's good. Like she, like. I think it's disgusting when wives get involved with the affairs of that man and his girlfriend. Let them be. Work on your relationship.

[Dr. Jess]

What is wrong with you?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Work on relationship with your husband. Because the marriage is completely different than him and his little girlfriend.

[DJ Envy]

April fools. It was yesterday.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You better not talk to him.

[DJ Envy]

Hello? Who's this?

[Caller/Listener]

This is Ty.

[DJ Envy]

Hey, Ty. What's your question for Jess?

[Dr. Jess]

Good morning.

[Caller/Listener]

Good morning, Jess. Okay. I got engaged last December.

[Dr. Jess]

Congratulations.

[Caller/Listener]

I don't know if you want to say that.

[Dr. Jess]

Damn. Okay, I'm sorry. Go ahead.

[Caller/Listener]

So I got engaged last December. I really liked the guy. I've had some really bad relationships in the past, so I thought this was a great day. But I caught him more than once, like kind of text flirting people. And the last one that I caught the girl. Was I. I called her, okay. You know, I'm smart enough to get the number, and I called her, and she was talking about how he was saying that he didn't know if he wanted to get married, that they were old friends, she lives in another state. He said that he was gonna fly her out, and they had all this unfinished business and everything. And I was upset, okay? But that's not why I'm calling. I'm calling because I have a co worker who, like, kind of flirted with me a little bit because he thought I was. Was cute, right? And he saw the text message, and he brings it up every chance he gets. It is the most annoying thing.

[Dr. Jess]

Oh, your husband brings up the co worker compliment brings up the co work.

[Caller/Listener]

You haven't been caught three times talking to people inappropriately. And the worst part is, I never even reciprocate. You might be like, oh, you're looking beautiful today. Thanks. That's all that was said.

[Dr. Jess]

How does he know that? The guy said that. You told him that?

[Caller/Listener]

No, at one point. My phone is always unlocked. I'm one of those people that. I believe in transparency. But also, when the text messages come up, you can see them on the

[Dr. Jess]

screen, and so text you and was like, you look good. Did he know you're engaged?

[Caller/Listener]

You.

[Dr. Jess]

Yes, he does, and he does not care. Obviously.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Disrespectful.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah.

[Caller/Listener]

Well, I mean, he just was like, you looked beautiful today. And I was like, you know what I mean?

[Dr. Jess]

It was like you just said, thanks. Like, you didn't even say, I appreciate it, but that's appropriate. I am engaged.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna feed into that. Thanks. That's it.

[Dr. Jess]

All right, cool. So he saw it. So.

[Just Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Dr. Jess]

So wait, cuz. You said you got married in December? No, but he.

[Caller/Listener]

You know, I got engaged.

[Dr. Jess]

Got it. Okay. I thought you said you got married. That's why I said congratulations. Okay, okay. I got you. All right. So you are engaged right now. Right now.

[Caller/Listener]

You.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You.

[Dr. Jess]

You thinking about not walking down the aisle because y'.

[DJ Envy]

All.

[Dr. Jess]

Y' all ain't even make it to the altar yet, and your. Your man is talking about flying girls out and everything, yet he has unfinished business in other cities or whatever. So did you. Did you sit down and talk to him about it?

[Caller/Listener]

I did. And. And his. His reasoning was, well, sometimes you make me feel upset, and I'm like, that's part of a relationship. That shouldn't be enough to make you want to run out for somebody else, right? And his. His excuse was, well, I'm not quite ready to get married yet. Then what'd you give me the ring for?

[Dr. Jess]

Right? So look, what are you now? Okay, so, boom. Now what you gonna do?

[Caller/Listener]

You see, that's what I was asking. But I feel like I'm 46.

[Dr. Jess]

Do not, don't, don't you sit here, there and reflect on your age and, and all of that. And I don't believe in no goddamn ageism. Don't give me that. I don't care. Yeah, you. You're probably a vibrant, beautiful 46 year old lady. Ain't nobody worrying about that. You don't be desperate. Cause, girl, cut it out. He told you he not ready, you send it. You leave his ass where he at, all right? He ain't the only one that's going propose to you and marry you. He told you he wasn't really ready. Shut up.

[Caller/Listener]

51.

[Dr. Jess]

He 51, girl. His old ass. Girl, Whatever. He gonna die before you anyway.

[DJ Envy]

She wasn't old.

[Dr. Jess]

Now you say he 46. She 46. He 51. He's old enough to know what the hell he want. He got on that knee and then trying to be on his knees somewhere else. Ain't nobody playing. Girl, leave him. I don't want to hear you 46. Because he. Because he 51. You know how many bad, well, you know, bad seasoned bitches out here? It's a lot of them. It's a lot of them. I don't care. I don't want to hear that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right? Now you listen to Justin if you want to. You pre menopausal.

[Caller/Listener]

Wow.

[Dr. Jess]

I don't give a damn. I don't care. That man kept it real with her. He told you, look, I'm not ready to get married. Right? And my question would have been the same. So why would you go through all the motions and take me through the antics of proposing to me? He don't know. It was just something to do at the time. He old and boy, Lord, but he's still flying out and all of that. You. Would you rather be married and being cheated on and being miserable, you know, or.

[Caller/Listener]

No, I've been through that already.

[Dr. Jess]

Exactly. You want to do it again because you feel like you 46, you too old to find somebody. Girl, please.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right.

[Caller/Listener]

I had to make sure I wasn't tripping.

[Dr. Jess]

Yeah, this is tough love. I don't care. This is not like some of us

[Charlamagne Tha God]

need to wake up and pray about it, though, no.

[Dr. Jess]

Yeah, she should pray about it, but the man already Told her he not ready for marriage. But when the hell you gonna be ready? You already finished 50. You half of a hundred.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Can I give. Can I give just one little other perspective?

[DJ Envy]

Go ahead.

[Dr. Jess]

Give another perspective.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I just want to say salute to your fiance. I'm so sorry he has to deal with this. He probably doesn't want to get married because he saw that man complimenting you, and you said, thanks. That right there will give a man trust issues.

[Caller/Listener]

He was doing that way before. That was way before, yo.

[Dr. Jess]

And then this. No, don't listen to him. Don't worry about it. I. You better take what I said in the count. I ain't playing. Good luck, mama, because I think that's crazy.

[Caller/Listener]

Thank you. And I want y' all to know I love the Breakfast Club.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We love you, too.

[DJ Envy]

I don't know about the advice.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's not old either, by the way.

[Dr. Jess]

It's not. It's not.

[DJ Envy]

Thank you.

[Dr. Jess]

And we love you back. We love you more than in his old ass.

[DJ Envy]

Damn.

[Dr. Jess]

Just crazy.

[DJ Envy]

Just fix my mess. 800-585-1051. When we come back, we got the latest with Lauren, so don't go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let's get tomatoes. She gets them from somebody that knows somebody. She gets the details.

[Just Hilarious]

I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She be having the latest on

[Caller/Listener]

the

[Arsenio Hall]

Latest with Lauren LaRosa.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Sometimes you have facts, sometimes you have details. Sometimes she have a little bit of everything.

[Dr. Jess]

Oh, it's the latest brought to you

[Arsenio Hall]

by Top Dog Law on the Breakfast Club. Talk to me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Good morning, Slim.

[Just Hilarious]

Good morning. So, Brandy, say good morning to Husky. Brandi is clarifying or not clarifying, but Brandi is adding more color and context into basically why we didn't see Reggie at the Hollywood Walk of Fame. She covered Parade magazine this month celebrating her new book Phases, which is a memoir. It is out right now, and they ask her how Ray J. Is doing. Let's take a listen.

[K]

There is distance right now. Yes. A few things that he's been doing in the public eye that I don't condone. And I just feel like loving him from afar right now is best for me. In my piece, my life with Ray and my connection with him is all throughout the book. And you can see my love for him is just. It never wavers.

[Dr. Jess]

I understand that.

[Just Hilarious]

Yes.

[Dr. Jess]

I can totally understand that.

[Just Hilarious]

As we said in the beginning. Now, she also talked about how in her book, she doesn't go into the night that she went to prom. With Kobe and why? Let's take a listen.

[K]

Kobe was such a special soul. I had a beautiful chance to meet him, go to the prom with him, work with him on Moesha, and just admire him from afar. Just everything that he was able to do. I wasn't in regular school at the time, so when I met Kobe, I just was like, oh, my God, I

[Just Hilarious]

would love to go.

[K]

Because I would never get the opportunity. If it wasn't for him, I never would have gotten in the experience. It was so much fun. We just had a great time just being amongst, you know, people my age and just regular teenagers. It just felt cool.

[Just Hilarious]

Yeah. So she's clearing up some things there. Yes. Now, in other news, shifting gears completely. Iceman is on the way, allegedly.

[Dr. Jess]

When?

[Just Hilarious]

I don't know, but Benadyne was on stream with ddg and they were talking about the fact that Drake has had to go back.

[DJ Envy]

You sound like OVO Eli works up here every day. I walk up and he says, iceman on the way.

[Just Hilarious]

Drake said it in his. Accepted the speech that he did for Fergie, too. That's all we know. We just don't know when. But Ben the Don is saying that Drake has had to go back and scrap music. Let's take a listen.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, my Iceman on the way. Jack Iceman on the way. Did you hear it already?

[Caller/Listener]

I heard like six, seven songs.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Arsenio Hall]

But I went back when I had heard it. I was like, okay. I said this going crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was like. And I told the boy. I was like, we need it. We want to hear bars.

[Arsenio Hall]

Like, we want to hear some more bars. Because he had. He had like, some dope ass, like, turned up club. He had, like, you know what I'm

[Charlamagne Tha God]

saying, for the ladies. And I'm like, bro, we need.

[Arsenio Hall]

I'm trying to hear some bar.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And he was like, you know what?

[Arsenio Hall]

Say no more. And then he.

[DJ Envy]

He said.

[Arsenio Hall]

He said, I went back and scratched so much. He said, I'm dropping balls on this.

[DJ Envy]

That's dope. I want to hear some bars. I like when Jake. I like when Drake raps, so I'm excited about it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I like when Drake raps too. But Drake. Drake hasn't really recovered from the Kendrick battle.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, hey, you

[Just Hilarious]

gonna be writing paragraphs in the caption.

[DJ Envy]

Drake has put up numerous. What do you mean by that?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Drake hasn't really recovered from the Kendrick battle.

[Just Hilarious]

Please be specific so they won't clip this out of context.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You just said yesterday he was appealing this lawsuit. So clearly, clearly, Drake is just having some Problems in the studio because he don't know what to offer to people because of all the slander and backlash that he's received since the battle. A lot of it caused on himself because, you know, he wanted to sue the record label. So he's probably just confused. He probably just scared to drop.

[Dr. Jess]

So he got to go home.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Drop Drake, drop. Drop Drake, drop you scared to drop

[Dr. Jess]

Drake, go back the way it all started. He got to go back down, you know, he got to go see Wayne. Got to go see, you know, Nikki got.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think he got across that border. Not like us came out.

[DJ Envy]

I think he.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think he needs some balls.

[DJ Envy]

I think he just needs to come with some bars. I think he needs some club records.

[Just Hilarious]

I think he needs.

[DJ Envy]

I just don't want to hear no singing.

[Just Hilarious]

I think he needs a battle. Battle. I think not a battle, not another one. He don't need another battle. He needs a balance of both.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't think Drake needs nothing. All of these people care too much about the perception of others like Drake need to be worried about people like OVO Eli, people that got owls tattooed on their ass. Oh, my God. That, that, that. That devout fan base, that cult like fan base that he has that loves you. That's who you need to be thinking about. He's not thinking about that. He's worried about dropping and just receiving backlash.

[DJ Envy]

Let's go. Bars and club. I just don't want to hear no singing. I don't want to hear singing. The last album was singing. I want to hear just strict.

[Dr. Jess]

But that was a collab. Album was singing. That was what.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What was wrong with singing? The man has been singing since day one.

[Dr. Jess]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why would I stop singing? Why would I stop doing what I've been doing? Singing with bars.

[Just Hilarious]

He's been making club records and talking to the lady. Ladies too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Exactly.

[DJ Envy]

And I'm not mad at that. I'm talking about the full sing songy records. I don't want to hear.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So why scrapping? Why scrap anything?

[Just Hilarious]

Drake could come with bars and you'll be like, this is not enough bars or it's not. It's always gonna be something after that battle. People are always gonna have something to say about Drake. To your point, I feel like. But maybe.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But I think good music silences all of that.

[DJ Envy]

I do.

[Just Hilarious]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And dropping the lawsuit. Dropping the lawsuit and just putting out. Dropping the lawsuit and dropping good news a lot. Well, dropping the appeal, whatever the hell it is.

[Dr. Jess]

I think singing to appeal to the women is better because a lot of the Women don't care. They don't give a damn about him filing the lawsuit. But the guys, a lot of guys ain't jocking that. They don't like that. So he. He gotta get in the stew and sing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And the little snippets that came out where he was still referencing the beef and all that. The schoolboy Q reference.

[Dr. Jess]

Corny like, don't lame.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Leave that alone. We. No.

[Dr. Jess]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So you can't spin the block. Ain't no reheating up them cold french fries. Not even with an air fryer.

[Just Hilarious]

Not Kendrick made it where Drake can't even reheat his french fries.

[DJ Envy]

It's gonna be like Charlemagne said Drake can't even go to McDonald's. You know why?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But you know why? Because then when he brings it up, what do people start talking about the ass kicking he got two years ago.

[Dr. Jess]

Why people don't ever bring up how

[Charlamagne Tha God]

he kicked for me?

[Just Hilarious]

Why are we bringing this up again?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Just tell you they had nothing. I'm going to be honest with you. That had nothing to do with nothing. That was the propaganda.

[Dr. Jess]

Drake, you bring up that he lost the Kendrick, but he won to Meek.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What I got to do with anything

[Dr. Jess]

because he's won before.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm a Cowboys fan. We won in the 90s. I got nothing to do with this. This year.

[Just Hilarious]

Bring it back.

[Dr. Jess]

Like he never won before because he lost to Drake. I mean, because he lost to Kendrick. He's won before.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And yeah, this ain't. This is about him right now and the perception of him. And the perception to him is that he's scared to.

[Caller/Listener]

To drop.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He's scared to drop because he cares about what everybody else.

[Dr. Jess]

Yes, of course.

[Just Hilarious]

Been coming for a long time.

[DJ Envy]

Of course he's scared to drop. Like he knows that the public opinion will be definitely critiquing this album.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So he wants to make sure every

[DJ Envy]

album, but he wants to make sure he has the best product and the best energy out there. I'm not mad at that.

[Dr. Jess]

He don't do what he did. And why he don't go to Atlanta and go hook up with Lil Baby. No, he can't do that.

[Just Hilarious]

Kendrick told us that's what he do.

[Dr. Jess]

I understand that, but he can't worry about what Kendrick said.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I do realize he's put out music since and the music has been. Was received well. It's always everything else surrounding the music, like the lawsuit to the record lab

[DJ Envy]

and it was rumors that he was working. Remember there was a rumor that he worked with Future? Yeah. No, he's I just want him to rap.

[Just Hilarious]

Iceman is coming. And when we get a date, we'll let you know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You're overthinking. You're overthinking this, Aubrey. I'm telling you, you got. You got people that love you. That boy over there got an owl on his neck and his ass. That boy got an owl tramp stamp. It's men out here with owl tramp stamps. And you worried that's who you need to be catering to this?

[Dr. Jess]

Having Drake parties and all that. The Drake look alike parties. They still do that? They do that weekly.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All the men out there with owl tramp stamps go online today and do an owl tramp stamp challenge and show people your owl stamp tramp to let people let Drake know y' all still

[Dr. Jess]

riding, not look back at it. All right, y'.

[Just Hilarious]

All. Well, that was the latest. Iceman coming soon.

[DJ Envy]

It's brought to you by.

[Just Hilarious]

Brought to you by Top Dog Law. Any accident? Yes. I just feel so bad for Drake sometimes. Any accident.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

These people are rich. Why y' all be. Y' all be mad. I can tell you. I can tell you a million people to feel bad about. He's not one of them. He's not a victim.

[DJ Envy]

He's not a victim. He's not rich.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He's rich as rich. He's not a victim. He's rich as hell. Like, what do we.

[DJ Envy]

Because he's a rapper and.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And he lost a rapper, people hurt him. Just like you heard you. I understand the propaganda now. All of these. All he did was lose a rap battle. I deserve him.

[Caller/Listener]

What?

[Dr. Jess]

Maybe.

[Just Hilarious]

Maybe he should call Top Dog.

[DJ Envy]

People switched up on him. I understand.

[Just Hilarious]

Maybe he should call. For a lot of people. It might work for him. Any accident.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Sorry for Drake. This is your man. I feel sorry for your boyfriend.

[Dr. Jess]

Oh,

[Charlamagne Tha God]

wow.

[Just Hilarious]

Thank you for sponsoring the segment.

[DJ Envy]

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Bright Breakfast Club. We got a salute to Arsenio hall for joining us this morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Salute to Arsenio Hall. Make sure you go pick up Arsenio Hall's book, man. Arsenio a memoir. Also, Arsenio is on the View, you know, this morning as part of his book tour. I keep telling y', all, this is one of the best entertainment memoirs I ever read in my life. If you appreciated the interview and appreciated some of the stories he told in the interview, that is nothing, okay? That is absolutely nothing. This man has lived a life. Life, okay? So salute to Austin your hall, and salute to Austin your hall. For just Always being on the forefront of black culture. Because, you know, we talked about it in the interview. That show was on from 89 to 94. That was really the rise of hip hop commercially. Like, that's when you saw, like, you know, I think, yeah, Death Row. Death Row was definitely cooking around that time, but that's when you saw hip hop, like, really, really rise commercially. And he played a very intricate part in that, man. So salute to Arsenio Hall. Like, some people got their finger on the post of the culture. Some people are the poster, the culture. Arsenio is definitely the poster. Was the post of the culture back then, for sure.

[DJ Envy]

All right.

[Dr. Jess]

And he was very excited to meet Mio and make some noise.

[Arsenio Hall]

I don't.

[DJ Envy]

I don't remember that part, but he was.

[Dr. Jess]

Yes, you did. You all you hating. It's okay.

[DJ Envy]

Where you at this weekend, Jess?

[Dr. Jess]

I am in LA this weekend promoting my book. But more importantly, May 1st, May 2nd and May 3rd, I'll be doing a Florida run. Fort Lauderdale, Florida. Meet me at the Lillian S. Wells hall at the Parker at 7:00pm That's May 1st. That's on a Friday. Then that Saturday, I'll be in Orlando, Florida, at the Plaza Live. That show starts at 7pm Y' all can meet me there. And then that Sunday, I'm ending off in Tampa, Florida at the Ferguson Hall. The show starts at 6:30pm get your tickets@just hilarious official.com.

[DJ Envy]

all right now, Charlamagne, you got a positive note.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I do. But I want to remind people to go get your tickets for the 4th Annual Black Effect Podcast Festival happening Saturday, April 2020 5th in Atlanta, Georgia at Pullman Yard. Some of your favorite podcasts are gonna be on that stage. We got Drink champs on that stage. We got Keep It Positive, Sweetie, with Crystal Renee Haslet on that stage. Mona's gonna be on that stage with Don't Call Me White Girl. The Gritson Eggs Podcast with Deontay Kyle and Ice cup cat. Jeff T. Club520 podcast is gonna be on that stage. And Carlos King Reality with the King. So go get your tickets right now. Black effect.com podcast cast festival. And the positive note is simple. Never underestimate the power you have to take your life in a new direction. Okay? To change your life, you have to change yourself. To change yourself, you have to change your mindset. That's how you take your life in a new direction. Have a great day. Breakfast Club. Wake you up.

[DJ Envy]

Wake that ass up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[DJ Envy]

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[Just Hilarious]

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