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FULL SHOW: Drake Denies Urination Rumor, Pusha T Faces Backlash Over Baby #2 News + De La Soul & Jonathan Karl Interview
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Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo. Jess ain't here. Yeah, Charlamagne. What's up? Peace to the planet. It's Monday. How y' all feel out there? I feel blessed. Black and highly favored. Happy to be here another day to serve our beautiful listeners. What's happening, man? How was your weekend? What's going on? What you do this weekend? Anything. What did I do this weekend? Nah, I was at the house, man, doing what I love to do, which is nothing. I was at the house catching up on tv. I watched B and Eddie a couple of times. Yeah, I heard it was great. I didn't see it yet. Yeah, watch football all day yesterday. My GameCocks was on TV on. They played Texas A and M in football. Blew that game. And then the women lady Gamecocks won later that night against usc. I'm sure people, it was a battle of the real Scott. I'm sure people in your DMs about donkey. Huh? What happened with Donkey? What? The police officer that ran into the players. You didn't see that? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. During the Texas A&M South Carolina game. I did see that. I'm sad. Everybody was hitting me like Charlemagne, better give him Donkey. I'm like, well, I'm sure if he. If he doesn't see that, I'm sure he'll see somebody that's deserving. I'm always for suggestions. Yes. That was a silly move. I didn't understand that. He acted like the guy was trespassing or something. Did he? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was Nick harbor after Nick harbor scored a touchdown. Yeah, they was acting like Nick was trespassing or something. It was weird. I didn't understand that. Very, very weird. Yeah. Why even go in the tunnel? You know why they went back there. You just saw the play like everybody else. But he bumped him on purpose. It wasn't like he tried it. I didn't understand it either. He was trying to show power. But anyway, I went to my first bat mitzvah this weekend. How was it? It was entertaining. It was, it was. It was entertaining. Were you the entertainment or you were. I was not the. I was invited. I was the invited guest. It was pretty. It was pretty cool just to see different coaches, how they celebrate, you know, their 12. It was 12 year old. 12 year old? Yeah. She turned 12. So it was how they celebrated her 12 year old birthday. And they put a. They put the up in chairs and everybody spins them around and it was. It was very, very interesting, I would say. I've never been to about m. I don't know if I've been to bat mitzvah. I got invited to a. What do they call a brisk. What the hell is that? It's when they do the circumcision. They have a party for that. I don't know if you call it a party, but yeah, it was a brisk salute to. It was. This is years ago. This is. Leslie and Jermaine invited me today. Son's brisk. Yes. In the hospital. No, man, it was at the house. They do that at the house? Yes. I think if I'm calling. I think it's a brisk. But they do the circumstances thing at the house with everybody watching. Yes. All right. I don't know what to tell you. Yes. It happened. Then you went. Yes. Okay. It's part of the tradition. Okay. All right. All right. Well, salute to that young man and Leo. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. That's crazy now that I think about it. It was so long ago. This guy, this kid is great. Growing now. Yeah. Jordan grown. Salute to Jordan. Okay. All right, well, let's get the show cracking. We got a lot going on this morning. De La Soul will be joining us. Classic, legendary group. They got a new album called Cabin in the Sky. Yes, they do. Is out on the 21st of November. And of course, they signed to Mass Appeal, Nas's label. So we'll kick it with them. And also Jonathan Call. Now, Jonathan Call is the chief Washington correspondent for ABC News. He has a new book. His last couple of books have been about Donald Trump. The last three. Yeah, last four. This is fourth about Donald Trump. Fourth about Donald Trump. Called Retribution. Donald Trump and the Campaign that Changed America. That's right. And we're gonna kick it with him in a little bit. So let's get the show cracking. We got front page news. Mimi's here. And it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Jess. Hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page news. Oh, that's a sassy scarf you got on this morning, by the way. I just want you to know, you look so. Sassy is the word to use this morning. And I get a cold. So now when I wear a scarf to make sure I'm warm. It ain't that warm in this room for you to have on that sassy scarf. You just want. You look like you just want to give style or something. I'm being fashion forward. Sky here, he wants to make me sassy for everything. All right, now, sports. Monday, Sunday Night Football. The Dolphins beat the Commanders. The packers beat the Giants. The Texas beat the Titans. Say that last one. You heard me say it, man. We said it blew that game. Blue definitely blew that game. We blew the last four games. The Eagles beat the Lions, The Broncos beat the Chiefs, the 49ers beat the Cardinals. Jaguars beat the Chargers. The Panthers beat the Falcons. Steelers beat the Bengals, The Rams beat the Seahawks, and the Ravens beat the Browns. Tonight on Monday Night Football, the Cowboys are going to lose to the Vegas Raiders at 8:15. I'm not even going to stay up for the game. I'm telling you that right now. Now you ain't going to mess up my good sleep time. Cowboys love you all to death, but nope, nope, nope. What's up, Mimi? Good morning, Envy. Good morning, Charlamagne. How y' all doing? Good morning. All right, so we start this morning in Washington where the Trump administration is introducing a new proposal that would require millions of Americans to reapply for food stamps. Officials say they want everyone on SNAP. That's the program that helps 42 million Americans buy food, go through a new eligibility review in an effort to crack down on fraud. Now, Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins, she said the administration is reassessing SNAP to make sure it is what they call strictly need based. Let's listen. Never before has the federal government asked for the data, but it is a new day. President Trump is the president. We know there's a lot of fraud. We need to help partner with you all to figure out how to make sure that this money and these benefits go to those who truly need it. 29 states, mostly the red states, responded with their data sets. But here's the most unbelievable news I have really just over the last few days, that 5,000 dead people, that was just one month. The number is closer to 186,000. Deceased men and women and children in this country are receiving a check. This is just data from those 29 mostly red states. Can you imagine when we get our hands on the Blue state data, what we're going to find, it's going to give us a platform and a trajectory to fundamentally rebuild this program. Have everyone reapply for their benefits benefit, make sure that everyone that's taking a taxpayer funded benefit through SNAP or food stamps, that they literally are vulnerable and they can't survive without it. Well, anti hunger groups are pointing out that there's no specific data to back that. They argue the administration is overstating the level of fraud. They also point out that most households have to already recertify every six months and keep their work and income information up to date, meaning states already have to recheck eligibility on a regular basis. Now, the administration, though, they still have not explained how or when this crackdown would start or what that process would look like. This comes after SNAP ran out of federal funding during the shutdown, sparking criticism from President Trump about the size and the cost of the program. SNAP costs about a billion dollars. Last year, the average participant receives about $6 a day in benefits. And Rollins says she plans to unveil a broader overhaul of SNAP in the coming weeks. But this renewed focus comes as Republicans push to show that they are about cutting federal spending. Earlier this year, that one big, big, beautiful bill, it slashed $186 billion from SNAP and added new work requirements. The biggest overhaul in decades. Yeah, I've never seen an administration, at least in my lifetime, go out of their way to make people's lives miserable. I mean, everything that can help people in the smallest way. It seems like this administration is just hell, Ben, on cutting, especially food benefits, which you would think would be off the table. And of grocery prices, speaking of food, I felt a little out of control for basics like beef, coffee, bananas, oranges and tomatoes. The White House is now trying to undo some of the pressure caused by its own tariff policies. President Trump signed an executive order on Friday rolling back a long list of tariffs on more than 200 imported food items. That includes beef, coffee, tropical fruits, tea, cocoa, spices. These were tariffs he originally put in place as part of his push to make other countries pay to sell goods in the US but now he's reversing himself, even admitting at Air Force One that these tariffs can raise prices, something shoppers have felt every day, every time they go to the grocery store. Analysts say the timing isn't a coincidence. In exit polls, voters say that they're frustrated with the economy and the higher grocery bills. And that frustration, they say, is what helped Democrats pick up key wins in several of those states that we spoke About a couple of weeks ago during election night. So we'll see. No word on when they'll actually start to see those. We'll see those prices come down. But he did sign that order on Friday to bring down the cost of about 200 grocery items that we. We buy our basic items every day at the store. That's a little bit of relief. Yeah, a little bit of relief. All right, well, that's front page news. Thank you, Mimi. Coming up at 7, we'll talk Epstein files and the surprising person now calling for their release. All right. And, Mimi, you look like somebody first lady this morning. Okay, I'll take it. I'll take it. Michelle Obama. I'll take. All right. What? Pastor, you married to everybody else. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, phone lines are wide open again, 800-585-1051. Call us up right now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Ray, Ray. Ray. Yo, Charlamagne. What up? Are we live? This is your time to get it off your chest. I got an indoor pool, outdoor pool. We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. We can get on the phone right now. He'll tell you what it is. We live. Hello? Who's this? Hey, how you doing? So. So. What up? Get it off your chest, brother. Hey, I got a. I got a. A question type thing for Charlemagne. You guys were just talking about the snap. Stay right. Yes. Yes, sir. How you feel like the government changing up the. The qualification process for SNAP is making people lives harder? We got a bunch of people that's like receiving benefits and that a lot of times don't really need them because I have no. I have no. I have no reason to trust this government. And when I look at things like the GOP signature tax and spending law that's poised to kick people off, you know, SNAP already. I know that they're just going to use this as an excuse to kick a lot of people off who actually probably need it and say that it's a lot of fraud that's probably not there. Not saying that it's not any fraud, but there's going to be a lot of people that they're accused of committing fraud. That's not. That's not what I was going to say is I look at it a totally different way. I feel like that whole SNAP and welfare thing, man, I really feel like that's our kryptonite. You feel me as black people, that's our Kryptonite. And we take that and we trade that in for a lot of stuff. We get too used to that. We get too comfortable on that. And I feel like that take away our ambition a little more. It make us accept mediocrity and it make us accept whatever our situation is because life. Can I ask you a question, black man? Who's the, who's the largest racial group receiving government assistance like SNAP benefits? It is white people. I'm. I'm quite aware of that. So why. So, so, so why. You know why you don't apply that same logic. You got the white people. Because white people is not the ones that's, that's got all the population in the project. They receive that assistance, but they don't stay on it forever. We're the ones that stay on it forever. Thank you. So, my brother, who taught you to hate yourself? What is going on? I do understand what Zoe was saying, but it has to be another way of doing it. What Zoe is saying is if there's so many people that are getting these benefits that are dead and they're just sending money to people that are not doing it, that has to be corrected. And I agree with that. But the problem is you can't ask people to re register every year because a lot of times a lot of people don't have WI fi, they don't have computers. And it takes more to try to re register and wait on lines than anything else. And people need, at the end of the day, they need food, they need groceries, they need to feed their family, they need to feed their kids. They. There has to be another way to find out if people are frauding the system and they already not to re register and they already been off snap for 40 plus days already. You know what I'm saying? So now you got to go through this whole re register process again. Like you know, come on, bro, what are we talking about? Who knows how long that process is going to take. Office is already backed up. They're always backed up even before the shutdown. It takes forever to get any to get in contact with anybody. And not for nothing, it's easy to find out if somebody died. It's easy to find out if somebody dead. You know what I mean? They ain't got to make people re register and go through the process all over again. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. This is your time to get it off your chest Whether you're mad or blessed I hate the way that you walk the way that you talk I hate the way that you dress Everything with me is blessed. Call up next 800585 1051. Not just me, I'm with the culture feeling. Hello? Who's this? Shay. Hey, Shay. Hey, Shay. What up, doe? Get it off your chest. Mama. Good morning. Hey, girl. Yeah, I just wanted to let my family know that I'm not mad at y' all for not telling me that my cousin has been sleeping with my previous boyfriend. It's been about five years since we've been together, but she claimed she didn't know that that was him or whatever. She was around. He was around, but she said she didn't know that was him. However, I just want to let them know I'm not mad at them. They claim. I mean, they act funny, like I should be the one that's upset, but they upset. But I'm like, okay, I'm not mad at y' all like this. Whatever. But I just want to let my cousin know I'm not mad at you. Girl, go ahead. And she allegedly pregnant by himself. Do your thing, girl. I know why you're doing this. Thanksgiving next week, you know what I'm saying? And things is tight. I'm gonna walk in and do that. I'm gonna walk in and do that. Oh, you gonna walk in and reiterate this message? There you go. Yeah, okay. You got a new man. You should come with your new man. You got a new man? I got about three, four of them. That ain't the problem. Talk that, too. That's not a flex, Ma. That. No, don't walk in with all of them, though. That's not a flex. Okay, but you know what? It looked like you. It seems like you dodged the bullet, though. So that's what's up. No, definitely. But I just want to let her know I'm not mad at you, girl. Go ahead. Do your thing. All right. Now that's how you get bv, too. I just want you to know that. By the way, thank you. Five years. Do your thing. Wow. Three or four men, and you ain't gonna know where the chlamydia came from. Hello? Who's this man? My name Junior. Get it off your chest. What's up, Junior? What's going on? Charlamagne, DJ Envy. I don't know if I did. Hey, man, I be busy a lot. I'll be busy a lot doing a lot of different things throughout my Years and stuff, doing stuff for the community and all that stuff. And I'm the only brother of two sisters, so I just. My sister, I. I had an idea, a few different things, but she just put out a book and I just read a book. I just read a book in it, and I just read a book and just seen how all the domestic violence that she went through, you know, me. And I found out all this stuff by reading her book. So I want to get this off my chest to apologize to my sister for not being the big brother. And then I already know that she already, you know. You know, like how they be trying to hold it back from their brother. Yeah, like that, you know, But I didn't know it was. It was to this extinct. I knew. I knew a lot of things, but, man, but like I said, I'd be like, he's doing a lot of stuff, man, and really wanting paying attention, man. And I just want to like, apologize to my little sister, man. Jackie Goosebie, man. She out there. You know what I'm saying? She listening, man. She. She just put a book out there if anybody want to check it out. They call. To make my pen cry. That's hard. Did she tell you that she was getting abused? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Relearning to make my opinion cry. Relearning to make my pin cry. Did she tell you she was getting abused when she was getting abused? Say that again. Did she tell you she was getting abused when she was getting abused? No, man, I knew. I knew regular. I knew regular relationship stuff. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? But it ain't. It ain't, it ain't. It ain't go that deep, you know? She ain't go that deep. And then when I talked to her, when I. When I just talking to her, man, she was telling me that, you know what I'm saying? You don't want to keep us out. Out of something, you know, I don't think. I don't been through trouble and all that stuff, you know what I'm saying? So. But at the end of the day, man, I want to apologize. My sister, man, she learned that, man. I learned a lot of that stuff in that book, man. And they got me feeling. It got me really feeling bad, you know? Don't beat yourself up too bad, because it's not like you knew what was going on and ignored it. That's right. Yeah. Yeah, man. All right, my brother. I can get anybody up and encourage. Not encourage anybody. You know what I'm saying they is nothing. I mean, take at least look read to it, man. And that I appreciate it. Yes, sir, brother. Appreciate you, man. Absolutely. Damn. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. Now we got the latest with Lauren coming up. What's up, Lauren? Last night you saw. That's not the first time. That's the first time I seen his hand. Yo, we went to the Eagles game last night to see if the Rolex was real. Oh, baby, don't do that. Okay. We went to the Eagles game last night. Okay. At the Linga Financial. Let me take a screenshot of the Rolly Envy to send it to you. We just can't have him out. Why you up here with that scarf draped like that? Don't he look sad? Yes, he look like he need to be checking. So now I cover my. My neck to make sure I'm warm. Put the jacket on too, or something. That's what I'm saying. So he got his crack covered this week? That's right, man. Just a little bit. Well, we do have. Damn it, man. Let me open this up there a little bit there. Go ahead. This or tie it both ways? No, I'm good now. Forget y'. All. Okay, we do have the latest coming up because there has been some golden shower rumors for some years with Drake, and he is finally clearing it up. All right, we'll get into all that when we come back. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get to the latest with Lauren. Lauren becoming a street fan. She gets him from somebody that knows somebody. Details. I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything. She be having the latest. The Latest with Lauren LaRosa. Sometimes you have facts, sometimes you have details. Sometimes you have a little bit everything. Oh, it's the latest on the Breakfast Club. LL Cool Bay. Happy Monday. Happy Monday, guys. Okay, so let's get to this story because there are some clearing up happening in the world of golden showers. So, Drake. So for some years now, since like 2015, 2016, there has been a conversation about whether or not Drake got a golden shower performed on him by one of TI's friends. But it was unintentional. That sounds crazy, right? Yeah. So golden shower. Sexual. So it should be urinated on, right? Don't say golden shower. You got peed on. I was told you're not supposed to. All right, so yes, it's urinated on, right? So this was supposed to have been unintentional. So they were all in a movie theater. It was for a screening of takers. And, and he was ti's friend or cousin, was like really drunk at the time, turned around, urinated, and Drake happened to be there is how the story goes, right? What happens? It was a screening. Like in a movie theater. They were filming takers. No, no, no, no. Like a screening. So basically there was a podcast that was having a conversation about it, just talking about what happened. Because people, this story always comes back up. Drake has even had to address it in an account. Never heard it. This is crazy. Well, okay, well, I, I, well, maybe I only heard it because TMZ did a story about it some time ago as well too. Where, See, I put it in a rap. Yes. So we have that song, but in, in addition to TI's rap, Meek Mill's rap. I remember when TMZ did a story and sources that were there said that this also happened as well too. But. So let's take a listen. So in 2020, TI addressed this on the song. We did it bid with John Legend. Let's take a listen. Caught a body spend millions of pill in your case While I'm fighting my own Somehow I got you home so drunk in LA end up sifting on Drake I rest in peace to cap to her. Yes. Terence Cat Beasley, by the way. Yes, that is the man that we're talking about as far as who potentially might have urinated on Drake. But anyway, so this podcast picked up, it went viral, and Drake jumped in the comments on the live bites Instagram. And he says that this did not happen. He's saying that this didn't happen and that this was only. This only came up because people needed to make their interviews like, bigger where people would pay attention to them. He says, no men or N men never peed on me. Oh, urinated on me in life. That story was for the net, because men don't have ish to say to get their interviews watched. Laughing emoji. So he's letting people know that this is true. I wouldn't even have commented on this if I was Drake. The funny thing is, I don't think that guy peed on Drake like that. That takes a lot of balls to pick to pull your thing out and start peeing on somebody's leg. I think what probably happened is it he peed on the floor and then, you know, when it's splashed, it splashed on him. That's what I think happened. I've heard about this story way before it was in any raps. Way before it was in any raps or anything. He was. It wasn't. It was not intentional. He was just drunk. I said it was unintentional, but I think even if it's unintentional and you put it in a song, I know Meek had put it in a song at one point. If it wasn't intentional and these rappers are putting it in a song, it's like, damn, yo. I never said it was intentional in this song either. But would you have to say that, though? You saying that I got peed on. Your homeboy peed on me. It still sound crazy either way. It's like, damn, I'm the joke. It only be. It only became a story because Drake became a huge artist. If Drake never becomes a huge artist, then, you know, you just some guy who just randomly got peed on by a drunk by mistake. Well, that and also, remember they were beefing with everybody, so everybody was trying to get as much tea or whatever dirt on Drake that they possibly could. That's how Meek Mills use it. Let's take a listen to Meek's 1 and O from 2015. That's how we say you're in the movie theater. We forget. Yeah. So he used it in that sense of the. The, I guess, situation to use it. But yeah. So Drake is. He addressed this. So I guess we can put the golden shower rumors or urinated rumors to bed now. Not really. I was today. But it wasn't intentional. He said. Nobody ever said it was intentional, though. But it just did. But it did happen. Nobody ever said it was intentional. Nobody was trying to disrespect. Disrespect you. But it did happen. Hey. Yeah, I think he feels disrespected. That's why he. The songs and all that. Yeah. I don't think he, you know, pull up, you know, peed on his leg and, you know, watch it drip down. I don't think that happened. I think he probably peed in it, you know, splashed on him. Crazy. Yeah, but what did he do that night? Are we not talking about, like, what did he do when he realized, oh, I'm wet up? What'd he do? You probably go change your clothes. No, no. What did you do? What did you say? What did you. Oh, my. Why you do that, bro? They were probably all cool. You just peed on me. I think probably laughed. It wasn't beefing. They weren't like, you know, I don't think they were beefing at that time. I mean, that's what I was more interested in. What happened after you looked down, saw you was drenched? What happened? Damn. Yeah. I think you just probably go change. It's not much you can do. Got to be more going on on a Monday night. I'm trying to. I'm going on to the other stuff now. That was supposed to just be like, we get there, it's funny, clear up, then we move on. Old french fries, but go ahead. Yeah, well, Drake commented, so I got new french fries. It got heated up again. Yeah. So in other news over the weekend, Pusha T had people kind of stirred up. This weekend. He announced that his wife, Virginia is expecting their second child. Salute to Push. Now, this is great news, of course. Right. And push a T's comment or comment. His caption when he lets us know that they're expecting their second baby. He talks about some of the struggles that she went through just, you know, trying to conceive their second child. He's talking to his son Nigel and says, you ask and you shall receive. But this time it was mommy who made it happen. She prayed day and night, struggled with disappointments, but she never gave up on your wishes. You're going to be. You're going to owe her big time. New responsibilities and new expectations all come with being a big brother. I hope you're ready. It's time to share them toys. And then he tags Virginia. He says, thank you for my second baby boy. I hope you carry on with the tradition and never teach me how to change a diaper, prep a meal, suck out of, suck out a snotty nose or anything else a super mom does. You make things very easy for me and I love and appreciate you for it. See you spring 2026. My boy with a blue heart. Congratulations. Yes, cousin. And this is a. An amazing thing to be able to announce. But of course, people find a way to make it. Not the second com, the second caption. So basically, people got upset when I posted this to X. I had people flooding my mentions because they were upset that he had mentioned not changing the diaper. Yeah. And. And that became. Until then, when I. When blogs picked it up, that became a conversation as well. You ain't got to amplify that, though. You could have just left for that. Congratulations. I was having the conversation. You didn't have to bring that to the radio. Having the conversation. That happened naturally when it was stop worrying about the miserable people on social media, man. Congratulations, Pusha T and your queen on your new baby on the way, congratulations period. That's it. Yeah. And by the way, and there's nothing wrong with us doing it. There's a lot of people with a lot of money that's never changed the pamper, never changed the diaper. They got nannies for days. If he doesn't want to, he can't afford to. He's still a good dad. Because he never changed the pamper doesn't make him not a good dad. I can't wait to have a nanny and good health staff with me and my babies. Okay? And some people have a phobia of poo. I am one of them. I don't even look at my own poo. Okay? What? Yes. You're supposed to look every now and then, make sure everything all right. What if there's blood in it? It could be anything in there. What a matchup we got, y'. All. This is that classic HBCU vibe. Non stop action. The bed is rocking and the crowd lit chant. Echo drum beat. Everybody showing that school pride game like this. Yeah. It calls for an ice cold Coca Cola. Ah. Crisp and refreshing. That's a game changer right there. Yeah, that taste always hits the right note. Just like the band at halftime. And just like that, we're back at it. Passionate fans, school colors everywhere and an ice cream cold Coca Cola. That's a winning combo. No matter the sport, no matter the yard. Everybody knows fan work is thirsty work. So grab a Coca Cola and keep that HBCU pride going. This past weekend, like every other Sunday, you were on the court with the guys, playing ball. Just a pickup game, living out your hoop dreams. No triple doubles, but a mean set of threes in between buckets. One of the homies mentions he closed on a new crib. This is big. And while everyone's asking about the housewarming and making plans to celebrate, you're asking the real questions. 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I ain't never did that with my mouth. If we didn't have the suction thing and the baby needed. Just suck it right out. That's crazy. I got six kids. I ain't never seen that. I've never heard of that. I ain't never even growing up. I ain't never seen no woman do that. I don't know what the little thing. I never seen nobody put their mouth on a kid nose and suck it up. And they got the syringe and the kids is suffering because they can't breathe. One, two, three. I didn't have six. I got six kids. They can't breathe. Is different. I just never heard of. I got four, and I ain't never seen that. And I come from six and I ain't never seen. I seen a woman blow in her kid's mouth too, to help the baby. Yeah. Like it look like cpr, you blowing the kids. And it's not just shoot out the nose. Yeah, well, shout out to all the moms and the dads. All right. Period. Yes. That is the latest wish. Make sure you pre order till death do you. Do we parent. If you're a parent out there, you want to figure out how to co parent the right way. And you know what I'm saying? Get the book. Pre order it. It's not. Get that. That's not in the book. All right, when we come back, we got front page news. And then the legendary iconic De La Soul will be joining us. We're gonna kick it with them. Indeed. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Getting some front page news. Start off with some quick sports. Now. The Dolphins beat the Commanders. The packers beat the Giants. Texas beat the Titans. Bears beat the Vikings. The Bills beat the Buccaneers. 49ers beat the Cardinals. The Broncos beat the Chiefs. Eagles beat the Lions. Ravens beat the Browns. The Rams beat the Seahawks. The Steelers beat the Bengals. And the Jaguars beat the Chargers. Now on Monday Night Football, the Cowboys are going to lose to the Raiders. Nah, I mean, we'll win that game, but I'm not staying up for it. I'm not staying up to watch a 2 and 17 and a 3, 5 and 1 team. Even though I love my Cowboys, I'm not staying up past my bedtime. Rather, my bedtime's 9:15. You ain't gonna miss none. Probably not. What's up, Mimi? Good morning, Envy. Josh Alaman. How y' all doing this morning? Good morning, girl. Good morning. All right, well, we're starting this hour with the fallout from those Jeffrey Epstein files released late last week and the political shock waves they're still sending through Washington. Now, lawmakers, they release, they released more than 20,000 pages of documents tied to Jeffrey Epstein. Epstein and one email involving President Trump is dominating the headlines. In the message, Jeffrey Epstein's brother Mark tells Jeffrey to ask Steve Bannon if Vladimir Putin has a photos of Trump blowing Bubba now because, yes, because Bubba is a well known nickname for Bill Clinton, people immediately assumed it was him. But Mark Epstein is now trying to shut that down, saying that the message was just a humorous private exchange and Bubba is not Bill Clinton. He didn't say who Bubba actually is, leaving even more questions. So this comes after the President, he's facing renewed scrutiny over his past relationship with Epstein. Criticism that he calls a political distraction. We talked about this a little bit last week. Congress is gearing up for the next step. There's a petition that hit the required signatures. So now there will be a vote on Wednesday to, to test if they will release all remaining Epstein records. This push for transparency, though, it has opened a very public split between Trump and Marjorie Taylor Greene, that's one of Trump's closest allies. Greene says her support for releasing the files is the reason Trump is turning on her. He attacked her repeatedly on social media, calling her a rantic lunatic, a ranting lunatic and a traitor. Over the weekend, Green told CNN she is now receiving death threats due to Trump's language. Let's listen to some of that exchange. The most hurtful thing he said, which is absolutely untrue, is he called me a traitor. And that is, that is so extremely wrong. And those are the types of words used that can radicalize people against me and put my life in danger. We have seen these kinds of attacks or criticism from the president at other people. It's not new. And with respect, I haven't heard you speak out about it until it was directed at you, Dana. I think that's fair criticism and I would like to say humbly, I'm sorry for taking part in the toxic politics. It's very bad for our country. Yeah, I have no problem with people changing their mind, especially when it comes to anybody who supported Trump or voted for Trump, because I just think it's obvious, you know, that he doesn't give a damn and what he's doing to the country. But I don't trust Marjorie Taylor. I just don't. I don't know why, you know, she's, she's doing what she's doing, but something ain't right. I don't I don't know. I just. It don't feel genuine. It doesn't. It feels like there's some sort of ulterior motive, something happened in there. But late last night, there's one more twist. After resisting efforts for days, President Trump suddenly reversed course. He's now saying or telling House Republicans that they should vote to release the Epstein files on social media. He wrote, we have nothing to hide, and it's time to move on from this Democratic hoax perpetuated by radical left lunatics. Hold on, Mimi. Did anybody ask him about the PP rumors? Like, I mean, did he have to clear up any of those rumors? You know what? He was asked by reporters, and I think he went off into some tangent about, who are you with? Fake news, fake reporter. You're an awful reporter. And he kind of just went into that whole rant that we've heard him say before. He did not, you know, specifically address that. So. No, Yeah. I mean, just because Bubba's not Bill don't mean that, you know, that's not something to still be asked about. I mean, I want to know, you know, who Bubba is. Are there incriminating pictures of our president out there blowing on Bubba? Like, that's wild. It is wild. So we will see on Wednesday because the House is going to vote, and if they vote to release all the Epstein files and everything should come out and so hopefully there will be some answers in there if who Bubba is and. Sound crazy, all of that. Yeah. I don't know if any of this is true, but I was. I was kind of looking forward to Bill Clinton having to come out and say, I did not have sexual relations with that President because I really. I was like, damn. So Bill Clinton's whole career is about to be defined by jobs like. Like, like, damn. Yeah. Well, we will see, Charlemagne. You know what? We are going to move on. As we were talking earlier, Thanksgiving is next week. And if you are. If you're already feeling a little anxious, it's not just you. A new round of national surveys, they show that the stress is real. And it's not a just. It's not just about keeping the meal on the table. 71% of Americans say Thanksgiving is stressful. That's about 7 in 10 people who admit the holiday brings a lot of pressure. The planning, the hosting, the cleaning, the juggling of everyone's schedule. But the number one thing that people worry about is, can you guys guess what that is? Being around people, being around family, I have no clue. Conversation. They say that nearly 60% yep. Nearly 60% of people are nervous about political talk and how it's going to spark tension at the table. They say one in four Americans say they've actually had to change their Thanksgiving plans to avoid those family arguments altogether. And here's something else people can relate to. 81% of Americans say that they had that one relative who was absolutely going to start the drama, and everyone already knows who that is. The good news, though, even with all that stress, 94% of Americans, they still plan to celebrate Thanksgiving. Most say the traditions, the family time, they are worth the awkward moment. That's why you got to be the family member that causes the drama. So you always set the tone. You gotta be the one that they don't like see coming. Okay? So when you that person, you set the tone. Don't let nobody else come in there and set the energy for you. What's wrong with you? We ain't got that problem. We only got one family member that's a Cowboys fan. He's the only one that we beef with the whole, the whole time that nobody cares about none of that stuff. Rome is the family member for me overall. Yes. Rome coming to my house with all five of the kids just go and drink too much and just tell, you know, why I had a problem with you and go down the line, everybody. But see, the problem is when he bring his kids, does his kids respect your place or do they jump on the couch and do stuff? They respect my place. Yeah. Rome do a pretty good job of disciplining his kids. They, they not, they're, they're not untrained or anything like that. It's Rome. It's wrong. Okay. Rome is there. Rome get an advanced copy until death do we parent before Thanksgiving. Add a little razzle dazzle to Thanksgiving. Dropping his book, he gonna have some things to say for real. God damn. Thank you, Mimi. All right, well, that's your front page news. I'm Mimi Brown. Follow me at Mimi Brown tv. For more news stories, follow the Black Information Network, Download the free iHeartRadio app or visit bin news.com Peace, Mimi. Thank you, Mimi. All right, when we come back, we have the iconic and legendary group De La Soul joining us. That album comes out on the 21st, so we're gonna talk to De La Soul next. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. DJ Envy, just hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Lauren laros is here and also Nyla is here. As we, as we introduce some legends, some icons in this game. Long Island's own De La Soul. Welcome, brothers. My voice is a little shaky. That's why I'm not good. I had to make sure I was here for y'. All. Thank you, bro. Peace, bro. OG Legendary, man. How y' all feeling, man? New album. First album in nine years. Yeah. In the sky. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We feeling good, bro. We feeling really good, man. Still being part of the fabric, man. Yeah. That's all. I always like to be a part of it. You are. Part of it. What? Come on, man. When we have legendary groups like this, I like to start from the beginning for people that don't know and introduce them to. So how did De La Soul come together? Ah, man, we met in summer school. Dang, why you have to say that? I was intelligent. We was in summer school, not doing too well that year before. Right. And yeah, for some reason, we clicked in class. And from there we would pretty much end up at one another's crib after school and started messing with the music, you know? Yeah. Possum Dave wasn't really known as MCs in the neighborhood back then. When parties was happening, I was DJing around the neighborhood. Paul was DJing around the neighborhood. Yeah. True to my brother, Prince Paul. Yeah. And then things just started to click. We started to realize we. We got something here and we just kept it going. And when we finally met Paul, things started to really change. Yeah. At that time in Queens, it was. It was hard records at the time, right? Yeah. You guys went the other way. So break that down of. Of why the difference of why the native tongue kind of stuck out. It was just who we were, man. It's really hard to explain. We. We put together records based off what was in our parents cribs, you know what I'm saying? Like, we loved the Coogee Raps, the Rakims. Rakims, the Canes, all that. We loved all of it. But, you know, it just what appealed to us. Even Mace could come from a. Like a more street background from Brooklyn. I came from the Bronx at a really young age, but. And moved to Long island. But we were just using stuff in our crib. We knew Biz biz showed us that you can make these dope records but have fun. And that. That kind of just spoke to us. So we just. That this is what we did when we was putting together records. And it just like, was what we wanted to present. What was the hip hop community in Long Island? Because y' all know you got your Rakims and the Public Enemies and the Biz and the Daylight Soul Busters, you know what I mean? JVC Falls, epmd. Yep. Keith Murray. What was this scene? The scene was more backyard parties. Yeah. VFWs. Backyard. A lot of VFW. College parties. A lot of college parties. Yeah. And that was. That's pretty much how we. We rock. We had a. We had a spot called the Dugout around that way, and that's where everybody came and rocked, you know, you never knew who was gonna pop in there. And then all the local talent, you know, between DJs and MCs that was just trying to do their thing. Roller skating, too. Roller skating was big. Roller skating was a very big thing also. Yeah. And y' all all knew each other. Like, who all knew each other? What era was that? We knew each other. You know, we knew who epmd. We. You know, we would see them here and there. Like, even Freddie Fox lived out around that way. My brother Freddie. So we would see him beat your ass. He sure was. Him and his brother, the supreme, they called themselves the Supreme Force. Me and Dave at that time was still in high school, working in Burger King. We would see him whipping people all up and down the mall, you know. You know what I wanted to know? Do you feel like if De La Soul wasn't from Long Island, De La Soul would be a bigger group? Because I think Long island is that one place. I always feel like people just leaves Long island out for some reason. I don't know. I mean, I think with hip hop, there's generically, there's the struggle. And people don't realize there's a struggle out there amongst them grass and trees. Long island was thought out there, too. People don't see that side. When you get money, you move to Long Island. You made it, because that was the thing. Like, when you get money, you move to Long Island. Yeah, but Long island has some dirty, dingy. Yeah, indeed. Crazy areas. My parents was from the South. You know, we lived in the Bronx for a minute. I had two older brothers. By the time my. Me and my younger brother came around, they was like, yo, we got to get out of here. So they did the same thing. They moved us to Long Island. Respectfully, all the white people ran away and we was there. But, yo, there was some grimy parts of that place, you know, I mean, Wyandance is like, baby Brooklyn. That's what it was. If you were from the boroughs and moved to Long island, yeah, you have some challenges, because them dudes was gonna definitely let you know you ain't who you think you are from the boroughs. Yeah. Yeah. You will pop you with a shovel out here. Yeah. And it's also funny too, when they say, if you do things, you'll find your tribe. I feel like y' all found y' all tribe literally when it came to the native tongue. Indeed. Because when we first came into was like being in high school, you know, You. You. You've already heard Nice and Smooth records, and now they're hanging with you. You already heard Audio2's records, and now you're around them in light. And so we all hanging around. But when we met Jungle, it was like, yo, like, yeah, sit at my table. Let's do the beats on the table, us. And then they bring around Q Tip, and it's the same thing. And then Latifah comes hang out with us. So, yeah, it was just like this frequency that we just all felt like, yo, we should really, like, be around each other and make records. How was recording back then with all those people that you just named? How was those studio sessions? Man, that was crazy. Yeah. I mean, you just never know who's gonna pop in the studio that day and make a song, you know, I mean, we. We hung out a lot, so making a song was like second nature because we were just together a lot. And then, you know, the vibe of just wanting to play records and make records, and we were kids loving his thing, you know, that's now called hip hop. Yeah. Even when we were doing, it wasn't called hip hop yet. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It's like, yo, this. This rap thing, you know what I'm saying? We're trying to do this. Yeah. Figure this out. When we got the opportunity for somebody to spend their money on your dream, it was like, let's go. Yeah. And we could sample records, and it was like new toys to play with. When y' all sample Rack Records back then, did y' all clear the records or y' all just. Well, we. We gave it to the record coming to clear. And if they chose not to clear it. Right. You know what I was. We. We knew we needed to get permission. How you go about getting permission? We didn't know that, but we knew the record company was supposed to do that. Did they do it for your records? Some. Some. And. And not. So, yeah. You know, I know y' all went through everything with this. The lawsuit, with the clearing and not clearing. That kind of messed y' all up when things started digital. Yeah. So what was that journey like? Because you got all this Great feeling, all this great music. And then the business kicks in, and it's like, whoa, wait, like we were kids. Fig. But now the adult business kicks in, and it's making it where you guys kind of disappear when the streaming error. Yeah, we missed. We missed the download error. We missed all that. That's crazy. Download error, streaming error, at the top of it. Yeah. So, I mean, now we were putting out newer records that weren't involved with our catalog that was on, say, Tommy Boy, the first six records. But we had good people who was in control of this catalog at Warner Brothers, you know, and they're trying to help us to get it right and get these samples clear. But you know how with record companies, then a new regime comes in and everyone leaves, and now you got to start over again. And that's where it really became an ordeal where it just took too long. Leo Cohen was up there, and he was our former manager. He was trying to help us, help us out. But then he left. Yeah. So. And then Tom Silverman tried to come back. Yeah. And he got the catalog, and that's when things started between us and him, because he offered a deal that wasn't really cool. How does the label end up with a 1090 split? How does the label get 90? Because I'm thinking, like, back then, y'. All didn't. There was no screaming, so it's not like y' all signed something like that. How did you just end up with a 1090? I don't know, man. I. Usually, us, the artists, just, like, sometimes us, the people, whatever we're being introduced to, it's already been figured out. They give it to you. And I think it's the same way. It's like they already know where they're going. They already know that this streaming thing is coming before we even know it's coming. And I just think it has a lot to do with. And back then, you was getting paid on, like, 12 or maybe 18 songs, you know, and it would be like, a 12 to 18 royalty anyway. That was kind of standard, you know? But what you. We didn't know is those admin fees is what can make it 10. When you're paying that admin fee on the back, that's what. Administration? Yeah. Administration fee. Yeah. That's crazy. How does it feel when you see the. The younger generation finding new day, last soul. So Nyla, who's. Was a young OG over here, we did this. We do this segment called Pastor Orcs. And I think the first. Maybe the first or second one, she Came in there, she was like, I got a De La Soul record we like. De La Soul is New. And she played a classic, but it just had joined the stream in it. And she's a Native tongue fan. She played a song off Cabin in the Sky. Today. Yeah, today. So how does it feel when the young generation hears that? Because it's almost like a recreation. It's beautiful, man. It's amazing. Like, even right before the catalog came out, Marvel had came to us and like, yo, we want to put one of your oldest songs in the Spider man movie was like, yo, that'd be amazing. So it was a big thing where at the end of the movie, when the three spider mans come together, they play Three's the magic number. And everyone pulls out their phone. Your young kids trying to Shazam it, and they still couldn't find it because it wasn't up yet. So it's just amazing, like, how even all of us living in our homes and listening to like, a Gladys Night record and your. And your parents would be like, what do you know about this? But you was around them, you're hearing it and it speaks to you. And it's just great to see something that we did in 89 is speaking to someone right now is. Yeah. The words for it. If daylight started in 2025, what would native tongues look like today? Like, who are the artists you call. Who. What we call family? I mean, I. I would immediately think, like, you know, odd future, them dudes, Tyler, the creator, those impact. Like, those dudes are us. Like, we would be hanging around, running around, bugging out everything. Kendrick too. Kendrick, indeed. Yeah, indeed. Yeah, for sure. Indeed. Who you see now? Rhapsody. Rhapsody, yes, absolutely. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, definitely. Everyday man type rap. Cole. Yeah. I mean, half of the rappers that are out right now. Ruben. Vincent. Yes, definitely. Reuben. Yeah. But I am curious about just, like, aesthetically, the world that you guys built, the bright colors, the flowers, who inspired that? It. Honestly, we were just doing music. When it came time to promote the music, the record label was like, look, man, everything y' all making, it's not like what anyone else is doing. And it reminds us of this era, like Woodstock and hippie. Would y' all be down to try these covers? Mace wasn't really with it. No, I wasn't really with it, but I learned to appreciate it over. Yeah, yeah. And so when we. When you. As he said, we appreciate the fact that when you put this cover next to like, Nwa's cover or Rakim's cover, it stood out and it made Someone pick it up, and we start learning how people would tell us, like, yo, like, it was because of you. I learned about Rakim because I saw this cover. It seemed like it was safe, and we started listening to it. But we got into hip hop and realized all hip hop is what it is. Like, what's the difference between hip hop and a gangster movie? It's like it ain't really real. You know what I'm saying? So crazy. Just because I'm thinking back of the influence that you guys had. I remember back then, we didn't care about gold jewelry. I wanted my African pendant, and we wanted it from Jamaica Avenue. It had to look a certain way. It had to be a certain way because De La Soul wore it. Why would you. You think about it? Influence, I'm saying, you know how Dominican Haitian brothers with that African pendant on? Just confused. Yo, if you see some of my old pictures, I didn't had cross colors with the African. Like, it was crazy. Back New York was crazy. Yeah, man, that's fire. Do you think the industry ever fully understood how radical and rebellious what y' all was doing actually was when y' all first introduced it? I'm being honest. I think so. Well, I don't know. I don't know if we really understood it. I'm being honest. We was just. Because. Just to even go back to what you were saying, B. Don't get it. Do not. Do not miss the fact that we want to go changes. We want to be like rock. We want to be like Eric B. You know what I'm saying? You know, we had the Busy Bee compartment more when me and Dave had our. Our chain on layover, had gold front, you know what I'm saying? But we still just had this way about us. There's no different than how I would go see his family in Brooklyn and like, yo, you could have someone who stood out or like old Dirty Bastard's brother, who was like a punk rocker from Brooklyn. Like, you just had these people who was just like, different, but still from a circumstance of images that you still love. I love Dapper Dan. I would have loved to have a Dapper dance suit. Couldn't afford that, you know what I'm saying? So, hey, let me just stick to this. This pendant because it's easier to rock than a gold chain, you know what I mean? How close are y' all to Tribe? Because I feel like Tribe has so much influence. Got so much from you guys. How close were y' all to the. Those was our brother like, you know and just for me, like, Africa and Q Tip, like, we were, like, inseparable at one point. We was like the three stooges running around, like, love those. Those brothers. We got on each other's nerves, as brothers should do. We loved each other, and we love each other. To this day, we're still locked in. Yeah. You know, so, I mean, hanging out with them, hanging out at Q Tip's house. His mother's making us food. His older sister is friends with Sweet Tea, who was down with Herbie Love Bug. And I'm like, yo, Sweet Tea. And I'm in love with Sweet Tea. And she's at his house. Like, we always hung out together, and we just created music. And I learned from them. They learned from us. Like, Tip is younger than us, but I call him like my little big brother. Cause he's so wise beyond his years, you know? You know, we had Knife Wonder up here, and Knife Wonder was talking about. I saw he fronting on Daylight. He was saying how much he loved. I saw that. And so after. I said after Knife front. I love Knife. I love. I want to hear the clip. I was gonna send him live. Let me hear the clip. Who break down QTip family tree. Oh, man. So the QTip family tree. Well, first, not. First of all, with our tribe, we're not getting outcasts. We're not getting the roots, we're not getting Badu, we're not getting Jill, we're not getting Little brother, we're not getting d'. Angelo, we're not getting this thing called neo soul. We're not getting Kanye west. We're not getting Kanye West. We're not getting anything that feels euphoric and feels good. We're not getting that. I agree with you, but damn, where did Daylight come into play then? So Daylight. So Daylight was. Of course, Daylight was before that and Jungle Brothers before that. You know? You know, native tongues move it. Also, Queen Latifah was in that box. You know what I mean? It was a different thing from Daylight. Daylight was way left to center right. You. You know, I think trap. And this is gonna sound crazy because Daylight was from Long island and more street. Tribe was. Tribe was more street. And you noticed it because when Daylight. Daylight and Tribe kind of dress the same on their first on three feet and people distinctive, they dress the same. By the time Tribe did Low end theories. Baseball jerseys and hats, bro. Like, they totally just change everything. But I don't feel like you get any of that without three feet high and riding. No, you don't I mean, but I would say, like, we were definitely like minded and. And we were like in kinship together when it came to creativity. And like, you have Dayla being daylight and you can have jive records. Like, yo, these Tommy boy dudes, they won with this. They won with daylight. Like, let's let me find my daylight. And like, that's tribe. Tribe was theirs. But we even knew that tribe ain't Dayla. Tribe got this thing that, like, Tip was coming up with stuff. Like, I was like, yo, how is he doing this? How is he coming up with all this? The jazz influence. Yeah. It was crazy for him. It was way deeper than where we were going. Yeah. Cause we were actually messing with a whole lot more pop culture of a different period. Yeah. You know, we would sample Peg, you know, from Steely Dan and make a record like Tip, which is cool going elsewhere with it. So. I get it, man. I understand where certain things and frequencies that Tip or Tribe was on that. The brothers relate. What a matchup we got, y'. All. This is that classic HBCU vibe. Non stop action. The band is rocking and the crowd lit. Chance echo drum beat everybody showing that school pride. A game like this, yeah, it calls for an ice cold call. Coca Cola. Ah, crisp and refreshing. That's a game changer right there. Yeah, that taste always hits the right note. Just like the band at halftime. And just like that, we're back at it. Passionate fans, school colors everywhere. And in ice cold Coca Cola, that's a winning combo no matter the sport, no matter the yard. Everybody knows fan work is thirsty work. So grab a Coca Cola and keep that HBCU pride going. This past weekend, like every other Sunday, you were on the court with the guys, playing ball. 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And even with De La Soul is Dead, our second album, we left all that, that psychedelic stuff to the side as well. It just was so iconic, people didn't want to let it go. I mean, our second album was called De La Soul is Dead because we were saying we was getting off the hippie stuff. Yeah, the image, the image that was drowning the music. Yeah, the daisy always meant it was an acronym. It meant the inner sound, y'. All. Yeah, DA was the isn't wise, y'. All. Yeah, it just, you know, the images just Took it elsewhere, obviously, for the record company to try to sell some records. And I can't front on the art department listening to the music and making this cover because this is their interpretation. Yeah. You know what I mean? So over time, I. I began to appreciate what the effect it had on everyone, you know what I mean? I still don't think you get. You don't get tried without Daylight. So of course, I understand the Q Tip family tree thing, but, yeah, Daylight to me sparked all of that. Well, you know, to speak to tribe and tribes defense, they had a lot of success. Oh, absolutely. You know, so when you come to. When we talk an industry standards, they sold a lot of records, man. You know, they have some joints, man. You know, I could say maybe we had good albums, but they had good albums and joints. Yeah, yeah. Just hitting the airwaves. Crazy. I want to talk about the iconic song, Buddy. Right when it first came out, everybody thought it was a sexual song. When it first came out, right? It is. So. So explain, Buddy, and how it came about because it was banned from a lot of place, places didn't want to play it. They felt this way about it. So. Well, where the concept came from, Junk Jungle Brothers first had a song called Jim Browski, you know, when. And that was talking about, you know, the male's anatomy. And then we came with a song called Jennifer, and I was just talking about a girl. And so we just was saying, like, yo, if we have Jimmy, they become buddies. So, I mean, that's really what it was in the most playful sense. Gotcha. You know, so definitely, you know. You know, Daylight albums, man, they always feel like worlds. So when you're creating now, when you created cabins in the sky, what world are you building? What's the emotion that was driving the. The main thing is for our partner who's no longer here, Dave, it was like, yeah, Cabin in the sky was for him. You know, I mean, it's still the normal muscle memory of trying to make a beautiful, great album that has good lyrics, good sound, good themes, as Daylight has always done. But it was him. And I jokingly say this, like, you know, and I hope I'm not, you know, saying stuff that people don't. Don't know, but it's this old movie, Outsiders. Matt Dillon is a scene where, like, he's like, they about to have this big fight with that gang, the Socialists. And they be like, yo, we gotta do this for Johnny. Like, that's how I feel. Like, we gotta do this for Dave. Like, it was really big. That we represent him and show. Just show his energy on this entire album. The project is for him, you know, and for us, and it's therapeutic for us. Therapeutic for me, you know, like the album is basically like we're doing this album with him rhyming from heaven. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's what this is. Cabin in the Sky. Has there been moments you say it was therapeutic? Has there been moments where you guys had to kind of like step away and just kind of deal with whatever it. Feelings were brought back up by getting back in this? I stepped. I stepped right into it. You never know when grief's gonna hit you. If I gotta cry in the moment, I cry in the morning. Yeah. One of the biggest things is just now just handling the responsibility of carrying my man's legacy. You know, we got the blessing from his family, all the friends we grew up with, you know, I mean, so at this point, yes, it's more of a responsibility to keep going. And we, we. We had plans, so it's just carrying out the plan, really. How do you. How do you honor Dave's spirit creatively without trying to imitate or recreate what he did? Well, nothing that we used of him was like, like manipulated in a sense. Like whatever song you hear Dave on, that's what that was a song that he was on. We didn't grab his vocal and put it on something that he wasn't. His energy and what he felt to write to, because that's how Dave was. He. He wrote in a moment, like in. If he didn't like it, it was gone. Like, he didn't. He didn't want to co sign it. So it's music that he was actually on and there's music on this album that he actually produced. So, like, his intent, his energy is throughout the album and it's organically him and is authentically him. Yeah. You know, when you hear the album, the sequence, it sounds like he's working on the record from heaven. Yeah, it really sounds like that. When you step on stage now, this performance, you know, the older catalog feel different emotionally. It can. I mean, it took a minute to get used to maybe those moments where, you know, I say something. Dave was supposed to come in, and then I would be ready to jump in ad lib mode. And then I'm saying something. All of a sudden I'm waiting for him jumping like, oh, what am I doing? Like, I gotta jump in because I gotta say the rhyme. So it took us a moment to get that, but we Got it down pat. Cause we stay moving. We stay always doing shows. So, yeah, it took a moment for us to get it, but we already there with it. Yeah. What's something about Dave as a man, not just an artist, that you want fans to remember forever? Wow, man. Wow. A man. Hey, man, he lived the full life, man. If anybody did it their way, he did definitely. He. Unapologetically his way. Yeah. You know, when I sit down with the homies and. And we talk about it, like, the ones that aren't a part of this music thing we grew up with, and they're like, yo, man, just know that. Yo, man, he. He did everything the way he wanted to do it. Yeah. You know, so don't. Don't, don't fret. Yeah. They've lived a full life. A full life. Yeah. Dave Chappelle kicked that to us as well. Like, he was like, yo, man, Dave lived a life that was so dense because he lived, like. I mean, like, three, four lifetimes. What he got to see, who he got to influence and help. And it's the truth. I mean, like, he had a life that for him to not. We all have. I would feel. I know I do. I have people that is no longer here, and you kind of feel sad that they didn't get to do certain things that they wanted. Wanted to do, or they didn't get to make the mark they wanted to make or change their ways. And Dave lived an amazing life and did so much. And involved as a man, as a father, he did so much for us. Dave's son played in the league, right? Did his son play football in the league? I thought, oh, my son played football league. But Dave had the bird's eye view of our whole thing. You know, where I can be on the ground and in the street with it. Pastas on the. Where he at with it, and. But Dave is up here, you know, always kind of looking at things from a real quirky perspective. Yeah, he. He brought the real different edge of who we are. Like, yeah, that real quirky edge. When history books talk about de la soul 50 years from now, what's. What's the sentence you hope is written? We, like. We did it our way, man. We. We had fun with it. And three black men who stuck together. Done. There you go. Thank you so much. De La Soul ladies. Thank you. Thank you for having us. Cabins in the sky comes out on the 21st. The chat loves y', all, by the way. Yeah. And I texted ninth, and he wanted to tell me. I mean, I get Out. He said thank you for letting him be a part of Yachtry. Oh, we love. Oh, man, I love you, Knife. I love little brothers, man. All of them for real. That's what it is. It's the Breakfast Club. It's De La Soul. Let's get right to the latest with Lauren. Lauren becoming a straight face. She gets them from somebody that knows somebody. I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything. She'd be having the latest on this, the Latest with Lauren LaRosa. Sometimes you have facts, sometimes you have details. Sometimes you have a little bit of everything. Well, it's the meatiest on the Breakfast Club. So Cardi B got on X Spaces over the weekend and she has been just voicing some frustrations because over the weekend there was a report where someone was pointing to Georgia law and this Georgia law basically made people start having a conversation about whether or not offset will have to take a paternity test for her baby. Because according to this law, according to this law, baby there would be conversation about whether off second claim paternity because the baby was conceived while they are still married on paper. Right. So this is a conversation that people then start having. Cardi B hops on X bases and she says that it's not funny for people to even have these conversations because at this point she's. She alleges she's fearing for her life following the divorce. Let's take a listen to Cardi B. I'll be trying to keep the peace, but I'm really tired of getting harassed. And when I get harassed privately and I ignore, that's when I start getting harassed publicly. And I have every single receipt. If you want to keep sending blogs to harass me, I can't take it anymore. Sometimes I sleep and I wonder like, this is not normal. You see crime documentaries you see on. On social media about women getting killed every other day. Like, it's like I'm a real tough. There's a difference between being tough and there's a difference between somebody have having an unhealthy obsession with you that you have to start to. You got to be concerned. And I'm really starting to concerned and I'm so tired because I want to detach myself from. And it's like it's. It just doesn't stop. It's literally a nightmare. And people think it's so funny. It's not funny. You got these weird men talking about this person should be petty. It's not cute to tell somebody that has a mental illness and have substance to be petty to somebody that's raising their children. Yeah. So she's going through real things as these conversations are happening. And I, I don't know, I feel like. So let's back it up. I did. So I reached out to an attorney in Georgia who does paternity cases because I wanted to first of all understand why, why this law would even be pointed to. Like, is it even real? So I talked to attorney Ashley Walter with the Walter Law group who handles high level paternity cases. And she said that this is a thing because basically a court will automatically assume that the baby is like of the marriage when you are legally married and you do get pregnant. But. But if you know what's going on behind the scenes and that's not the thing, that's basically just what you tell the court and then you move on. But it became a story because it's Cardi B. But I think it's sad to watch, you know, her go through this even. I mean, on offset side. Right. Like she's claiming things are happening. There's a lot happening publicly because, you know, she did just welcome a baby. And it sounds like she's actually going through things that she is fearing about. But we're just, you know, having conversations about it because it's not our real life. Yeah. So it's troubling to see. But yeah. So she, she got online because she wants to let people know, stop having these conversations, stop egging things on anybody. Then another part of this as well was there was a post and delete. So offset it, posted my child and then removed that online. And that kind of, you know, revved it up as well because this was happening all during the same time. So this is kind of some of the stuff that we've been seeing back and forth with them, you know, more recently. Even though it gave birth. Yeah, yeah. Cardi B just gave birth to the baby. That was a week ago. And he posted my child after that. After this whole thing got like, you know, it was. Yeah, it was all over the place, but it was. That was deleted. So. Yeah, she's just speaking out on herself or for herself. Yeah. Now in other news, sounds very down. So healing energy for sure. Yeah, sounds very down. It's a lot to deal with. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like you gotta. She's Cardi B. She's. It picked up everywhere. Now in other news, so juvenile. We talked about this last week, but I told you guys that the interview he did with drink champs would go Live on Drink Champs over the weekend. And it did. So I watched a full interview and I learned some hip pop history. What was that? So I found out. I know DJ Envy is. People don't think he's a real dj. Who said that? A lot of people don't think Envy really dj. They just be saying stuff. Yeah. They think all he do is play snooze and fold it up here. Two things can be true. I don't pick the music up here during the show. And yes, I'm a real dj. And he does play residuals way too much. I don't. That is. No, I don't click the music. Continue on, man. But I was watching this Drink Champs interview just to see, you know, what we would continue to talk about up here. And they brought up the fact that DJ Envy basically helped break cash money here in New York and other places. Let's take a listen to Juvenile on DJ Envy hard drives. And it's number one in New York. Yeah. HOV is already on point. I don't want. I don't want no beef. Envy bro gave it to Ho and I think broke direct to me. Envy like, nobody. Let's make some noise for Queen again. We was the two young and we bumped heads. The young cats was on it and was. That was like his. His. That was his trigger song for his parties. And, well, we was already like. That's what we told him. Like, say you don't even understand who we are. Right? Like, just go look us up. I wish social media was popping in those days like it is now, because then you would see the craze that we had, but we couldn't do nothing. I need proof. What? I need Juvenile. He just said it, yo. I need more proof. I blame that all on Hampton University going to college is actually Virginia. We're in Virginia. Yeah. So me going to school in Virginia, I had roommates from different areas of the country. And they would bring back all the stuff from New Orleans and all the stuff from. From Louisiana, and that was one of them. And when I. And when I played it down there, you had to play it because it was like, you know, when you go to college, there's a New York section or DC section, people from everywhere. So you had to play that record. And the record used to catch. So crazy. So when I did the mixtapes that I brought it back here, I would play it every week in here and all the clubs here, and it took off. And yeah, I love Juvenile for that because he always gives me a lot of Respect. And then when I started working on my own projects, Juvenile never charged me not one dime. You always show love, so I always love juvie for that was he Wendy Williams of the Record. Because he. You break. He's breaking music in different areas. A lot of people, people heard it first up here because of DJ Envy. That's what Juvenile just said. But why is that? Because it's an exclusive. I get what you're saying. Because Wendy would drop, you know, people would get this news first. They would hear things first, hear people first. Oh, my God. That's his og. But he don't understand nothing when it comes. That didn't make any sense because Envy comes from the tree of DJ Clue. So, yeah, that's. That's the area. That's the era. The Clues, exclusives. Okay. Yeah. Two worlds relate and give Envy some props. You know, I appreciate the props. You give him props by saluting his OG that he learned from DJ Clue. Drop one of Clues Bomb salute to Clue. Clue nothing to do with that. But yes, but yeah. Salute to Juvenile, the exclusive guy. Yes, but for a generation, it had nothing to do with Juvenile and high breaking high. But I'm just saying Clue taught you to get. Now you don't want to give Clue the problem. You ain't want to give Wendy the props when Dame Dash is up here. That is not true. I always give Clue props. You always give Clue props? Always. I still don't believe the Juvenile story. I need more proof. I need more. NB does do that, though. Envy did that. And he did that for Emmy. Did that for me before one of your songs way back in the day. Nasty song that goes crazy at all the HBCU homecomings. We broke that in New York. That's a fact. I know that's right, y'. All. Well, yeah. And I. I don't even think I knew you at that time. Right? I knew. Not like that. Nope. I just knew you was a gay guy running around with Wendy Williams. And I still support. But I thought about you, too. They said the same thing about him. Like Envy's, the gay guy had run around Ms. Jones. And then we both ready. So then the queens linked up and then we bumped. We bumped in each other in the street one time. Oh, y' all was bumping. Hey, yeah. Y' all the same. I think we had dinner. We had dinner once, though. We had dinner like once way back. Who paid? Who paid? That was the first day. Look at me blushing. I never thought he was gay. Speaking of happy birthday, RuPaul. It's his birthday. He's still a good. I know that's right. Happy birthday, legend. All right, well that is the latest with Lauren Charlemagne. Who you giving that down to? Man 4 After the hour. I need two brothers, man. Two grown ass men. One is 64. 155. Mark Foy and Antonio Johnson need to come to the front of the congregation. We will not be doing this during the holidays. You hear me, Lord? Okay, all right, we'll get to that Next. Don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Don't be out here acting like a donkey. He he. It's time for donkey of the day. I'm a big boy. I could take it if he feel I deserve it. Ain't no big deal. I know Charlemagne guy going to have some funny sleep out his mouth. This guy say something you may not agree with doesn't mean. I mean, who's getting that donkey? That donkey. That donkey. Donkey Donke. Donkey, donkey, donkey. Right here, the Breakfast Club. You can call me the donkey of the day, but like I mean no harm. Yeah, it's donkey of the day for Monday, November 17th goes to 64 year old Mark Foy and 55 year old Antonio Johnson, both of High Point, North Carolina. Listen, I know we talk about how hard times are financially right now for a lot of people. And after 43 days of a government shutdown, 42 million people having their SNAP benefits disrupted because of the shutdown. I think it's an understatement to even say times are hard. Okay? People are struggling in ways that we can't even imagine. And it's sad that we out here debating the basics, okay? Food, clothing, shelter, health care. Those should be rights, not privileges afforded to everyone in this country. I mean, the government shutdown had us debating on whether people should eat or be sick. That's how you know we've jumped the shark as a society. But what also lets me know we are very far gone is what happened between Mark and Antonio. Okay? 64 and 55. These are grown ass adult men who both can eat from the senior menu at ihop. Okay? When you can get discounts from IHOP because of your age, it's time to relax and lean all the way into First Corinthians 13:11. When I was a child, I. I spoke and thought and reasoned like a child. But when I became an adult, I put away childish ways. Well, Mark and Antonio still out here acting like children. Let's go to NBC12 for the report, please. Mark Foy and Antonio Johnson were charged with going armed to the terror of the public and fighting. 19 people called 911 last night in the area near the North Main Street Food lion in High Point. Johnson was hit in the arm when the two men shot at each other. Video taken by a customer inside the Food lion shows Foy and Johnson fighting near the registers after High Point. Police say one of the men yelled at an employee. It's unclear which man at the checkout intervened on behalf of the employee, and the two men begin fighting. Seconds later, Foy pulls a gun and points it at Johnson's head. High Point police say the two men left the store and then fired multiple shots at each other in the parking lot. In 911 calls, you can hear witnesses panic when one of the men went back into the store. They shooting, they shooting. They shooting. I'm telling them we're hurry to the police. They're coming as quick as they can. Shoot on the food line. Everyone go now. See that news report said they was fighting over him saying something to an employee. In the Charlotte observer, the headline says they were arguing over a turkey at Food lion. And it ended with two shoppers was in a gunfight. That's it. An argument over a turkey at a Food lion turned dangerous when customers pulled out their guns and started shooting. I don't know what the hell they were shooting over. I just know it's no. Huh? I can't hear you, Eddie. He's giving you the thumbs up. I don't know. You're doing great. You're doing great. I'm doing a good job. I don't know what the hell's going on. I'm just reading the headline, okay? All I know is Monks Corner, South Carolina. This Saturday, I'll be doing my 12th annual Turkey Giveaway from 10am to 12pm in the Berkeley High School student parking lot. All right? Salute to Z93Jams. And everyone who listens to the Breakfast Club on Z93, they will be out there this Saturday as well. Okay? We'll be giving away turkeys with all the fixings. Yes. We're gonna have stuffing and Mac and cheese. The whole shebang. Bang. And I'm gonna tell you something. I've been doing this for 12 years. And I remember one time a guy from my hometown was on Twitter back in the day, hating, saying, don't nobody want those dry ass torches. Turkeys. I wonder if he understands the importance of things like turkey giveaways now. Okay, you got people throwing hands, pulling guns and shooting at each other in food, lying over these birds? Why? Okay, was it one left? How do you turn the frozen food section into a war zone? All right, imagine you just walked into the grocery store minding your business, and suddenly shots fired on aisle six. All right? Not to mention, what does the world come to when you can't even go to Food lion without your fire on you? You. You gotta be scrapped up to go grocery shopping. Now, a simple trip to buy a turkey turned into you. Now having a court summons. Poultry shouldn't turn the problems Mark and Antonio. I'm disappointed in both of y' all because you two are supposed to know that you must do your jail math, okay? Now, if you was in food line arguing over turkey, then money must be tight. So if the money tight, how the hell you gonna afford bond, a lawyer, and all the other expenses that come with fighting a case case of this magnitude? That's why you always gotta do your jail math, okay? Can you afford to do the crime you're about to commit? Listen to all my uncs out there. Once you pass the age of 45, you gotta tell Drama. Go that way, okay? 64 and 55. I'm not trying to pull the pistol out unless my life or my family's life is in danger, okay? I come in peace. Always. I promise. If it's that serious, you know where you want to fight or shoot over the turkey, you can have it, right? I'm not banging over no butterball. Hammer's not hammering over Hill Shire. The pistol ain't popping for Purdue. Okay, listen. It's the holiday season, and I need people to remember a couple of things. One, peace is not the absence of conflict, but the ability to handle it peacefully. And conflict can't survive without your participation. Please remember that this holiday season. And give Mark Foy and Antonio Johnson listen the sweet sounds of the Hamiltons. No. Okay. No. All right? We're not playing the game. I don't know the game anyway. I don't have no pictures or nothing. I have no idea. So we can't even confirm. I can't even confirm chat. You want to assume? No. Yeah, I want to assume. All right, fine. Let's not the chat. Always want to play a game. Envy. That's right up there with the chat. I love the chat. I always want to play a game. No. All right. Well, thank you for that dog here today. Somebody said my lips are greasy on the chat. My grips, my. My lips are moisturized, sir. Okay, that's the only message you seen is a zillion messages every. All the chats let's play games. We're not playing. No, that's not what they say. Saying. They actually just guessing. And I don't like the fact that y' all guessing. I don't like, I don't like how y' all putting this. Okay, Somebody put black with a bunch of K's. Somebody said old black one, right? One black, one Mexican black, Black, black, black, black. I don't know what race they were. Don't matter. Okay. Fighting over no turkeys. I mean, shooting over no. Somebody said a country ass black with overall. We don't know this, okay? It's High Point, North Carolina. We have no idea. Okay? Country ass black with overalls is crazy. All right, thank you for that donkey today. Now, when we come back, Jonathan Carr will be joining us. He's the chief Washington correspondent for ABC News. He has a new book. His last three books are about Donald Trump, correct? Yep. And his fourth one is about Trump as well. It's called Retribution Donald Trump and the Campaign that Changed America. All right, we'll get to that next, so don't go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlamagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Along the roses here as well. And we got a special guest in the building. Yes, indeed. He has a new book, Retribution from Donald Trump and the Campaign that Changed America. John Carl, ladies and gentlemen. Hey, thanks for having me. How are you feeling? What's up, jk? How are you? I'm doing all right. I'm doing all right. Crazy times. This is your fourth book on Trump. Yeah. You like driving yourself crazy, huh? Oh, my God. I, I, I, I. I wrote one almost six years ago, and I thought that would be the only one. But this is 1500 pages on this stuff. But, you know, I mean, I felt like I was watching history unfold, and I saw people trying to rewrite the history as it was happening. And that's why I've, you know, I've poured my heart and soul into these books. What feels different about this phase, this era of Trump, if anything, if it does feel different? I mean, it does. I mean, I think what we're seeing now is, as suggested by the subtitle of this book, it's Change in America. His first term was chaotic. I mean, the attention of the world was on the White House. There was all this controversy swirling. But, you know, he left and it was done. I mean, there was nothing, no real lasting impact. I mean, now look what he's doing. And symbolically you could look like tearing down the East Wing, you know, changing paving over the Rose Garden. He's changing the physical layout of the White House. But our country is changing. I mean, the use of executive power. You have a president that's shown you can just basically ignore Congress, get into the precipice of ignoring the courts. We're in a totally different phase. I think, I think the first term was more to see how far or what he can get away with. And then when he came back, he just started, I mean, he started hot first day desk signing, all types of parties, signing things into play immediately. So I think the first term was, was let me see what I can get away. What a matchup we got, y'. All. This is that classic HBCU vibe. Non stop action. The band is rocking and the crowd lit. Chance echo drum beat everybody showing that school pride. A game like this, yeah, it calls for an ice cold Coca Cola. Ah, crisp and refreshing. That's a game changer right there. Yes, that taste always hits the right note. Just like the band at halftime. And just like that, we're back at it. Passionate fans, school colors everywhere. 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Like what was the moment or series of moments in your reporting when you're, when your thinking shifted? You know, it wasn't really until pretty close to the election when I saw how the Kamala Harris campaign was approaching it, and I saw their almost desperation to have another debate with Donald Trump. I saw her go on Fox News after resisting all kinds of interviews, something you had said she should have done a long time ago. And I report in the book how, how she actually, her campaign actually approached Fox and asked them if they would host a debate. This is in the end, in October. And Fox said, sure, but Trump had no interest in doing it again. And that's where I saw she wouldn't have been doing that if they didn't see that she was likely to lose. When you realize that not only was a comeback possible, but that the campaign was built around this idea of retribution in a structural way. When did you realize that? It really early on. I mean, I, I was there in Mar? A Lago when he announced his campaign shortly after the midterms in 2022. It puttered along. It was nothing. It was, you know, Ron DeSantis was leading in the polls, if you remember, double digits by the end of 2022. And then he gave this speech at CPAC where he used that line, you know, he said, I told you, I am your voice in 2016. Now I tell you, I am your retribution. And that gave his campaign this energy. And then you had the indictments coming in. He started his campaign. The first rally of his campaign was at Waco, Texas. I mean, I wrote a book like 30 years ago this December, I wrote a book called the Right to Bear the Rise of America's New Militias, about the right wing militia groups, Timothy McVeigh and all of that. And, you know, Waco, Texas was the rallying cry for those people. It was the symbol of like the government out of control and coming after you. And now Trump is going to Waco. And then sitting through that trial in New York, the hush money trial. And I could just see the seething resentment that he had that he had to go to that courtroom every day, four days a week. You've been down there, it's 100 center seats, a dingy, dark, you know, dirty, dirty. I mean, I described when I, because I went down and sat through several days down there, and you go through the front door of the courthouse, first thing you notice is there's big rat traps outside, you know, mice and rats all over. I mean, and he's got to be there. And he can't leave even, like, during the lunch breaks. He's got to be there in some dark, cold room. And he just. You could see he was plotting. I am going to get even with all of these people if I get back into power. Do you feel like there will ever actually be, like, retribution? That he thinks because there's always something new that he feels like he has to, like, get back. Oh, he's getting people out. I mean, he's getting people back. But, like, is there a place where it stops? Like, where he gets to the point where he's like, yo, I done got y'. All. I done did enough? No, no, no. I mean, you think. First of all, you would think the guy, he got back to the White House and he won. You would think that maybe at that point, you'd be like, okay, you know, I've proved everybody wrong. I'm here. I'm in power again. No, he's gonna keep going. And here's the thing. It's not just his political opponents. It's not just the Democrats. It's not just the prosecutors. It's not just the people that literally went after him. I think that the thing that motivates him the most is getting back at Republicans who he believes didn't sufficiently support him. Really? Yeah. I mean, yeah. The other day, Steve Bannon said something Steve Bannon said that Bill Barr belongs in prison. Bill Barr. I mean, this is like, you know, and his Barr sin was that he didn't back Trump on the efforts to overthrow the 2020 election. And, you know, I mean, so his first motivation that the beginning of the retribution campaign actually begins in the days after he leaves the White House. House. He goes to Mar A Lago. He's really seen as a pariah even by most of the Republican leadership. He's banned on Facebook and Instagram and Twitter and all of that. Corporations are saying they're not going to give money to Republicans that backed him in overturning the election. And he's in a very dark place. I mean, I described this pretty graphically in my previous book about his exile down there. But what is the first project he has? His pollster gives him a memo that shows him that Liz Cheney can be beaten. Wyoming. Liz Cheney, who voted to impeach him. And that is the beginning he is now focused on. First. I'm gonna go after Those damn those 10 Republicans that voted to impeach me in the House. They're gone. And he defeats Liz Cheney. So he, you know, I Mean, he expects Democrats to be his opponents. He knows prosecutors do what prosecutors do. It's those Republicans. So is that to put fear in the team that's around him now? To let y' all know y' all better always go along with me, because if y' all get out of line, then it'll be retribution against y', all, too. That's a huge factor, and it's pretty damn effective. What legacy do you think this will have on, like, future campaigns, future governance? Because I feel like this, this only works for Trump. Yeah, I, I mean, there's no Republican that I can see that would just suddenly inherit the movement. And everybody would, would do what they've done for him, which is total loyalty. Even when they disagree with him. Well, we don't disagree with him anymore. I mean, J.D. vance doesn't command that kind of power. Marco Rubio doesn't command that kind of power. But I do think that the rules of the game have changed. And I think the next Democratic president, I mean, you see what Gavin Newsom did on the redistricting, and he's quite clear about it. It's like, we can sit here and, and talk about our good government stuff that we. But no, they've fought dirty. And basically he's saying we have to fight dirty back. So this governing by executive order is something, and we'll see how much of it gets knocked down. But I mean, I think this is part of what's gonna happen now. So you don't see a third term. You don't see him trying for a third term. I don't even like that conversation. Yeah, we shouldn't even be having that conversation. The 22nd Amendment says it just can't happen. There's so many things that they said that can't happen, that he does that happens. You know, I had a conversation with John Kelly shortly after he left the White House as Chief of staff. So Trump was still in power. And I was having. It's kind of, it's amazing to think back at it, but I was just wondering, I was beginning to write my very first book on all of this, and I was just, what happens if Trump doesn't leave office? This is first term, you know, way before January 6th and all that. And I was just like, what happened? Happens. So I asked Kelly this again, retired four star Marine General, you know, a guy who's seen a lot. And he said, oh, no, no, he's going to leave. Trust me, he's going to leave. And then he paused and he said, and, you know, and if he doesn't want to, he could chain himself to the Resolute desk and there will be people who quietly go into the Oval Office and cut the chains and take him out. So, you know, I don't know if that's, you know, I thought there was just such a vivid image that we do have a system. But, you know, he has, he has installed loyalists everywhere, and I think it's going to be very hard for him to leave office, but he can't run again, according. Unless you think our Constitution doesn't mean anything. What do you see as the greatest risk to American democratic institutions in the coming years? I think that the greatest risk to our institutions is the erosion of the idea of truth. I think this is more beyond any single policy thing, beyond even Trump himself, is we now live in a world where, you know, you can ask somebody, you're going to believe me or your own lion eyes, and it's unclear what they're going to believe. If you can't agree on what the facts are, how do you overcome divisions? How do you get anything done? And, you know, it's, Trump has accelerated this. He didn't start it. He has accelerated this and now throw into the mix artificial intelligence. I mean, it's like we are in a. We are in a crazy land. And by the way, I see it on the left as well, where, you know, the crazy conspiracy theories, you know, of late have been the, the province of the, of the right. All the wacky conspiracy theories around 2020. And, you know, Sidney Powell saying that dead Venezuelans rigged voting machines or voting machines were controlled by spy satellites. I mean, a crazy, crazy stuff. And now, I mean, I can't tell you people, I've come tell you that, you know, Trump rigged the 2024 election and it was Elon Musk and it was Starlink, and they controlled the voting machines. It's like the same conspiracy conspiracies. It's like, can we just try to establish facts? And, and that's the business that I am in, and I'm desperately trying. That's why I wanted to write these books again, because I wanted to. First of all, I felt I had the access and I had the vantage point I to be able to shed new light on the events that we're going through. But I also wanted to make sure that people don't rewrite it and pretend things that happen to disappoint. That's right. So that means all your books are getting banned soon. Get them soon, before they're done. If you Were looking back. This is my last question. If you were looking back in 10 or 20 years at this campaign, what will historians say it did to the Republican Party? What would they say it did to the presidency and the media? And what do you hope your legacy will be as a chronicler of this era? I think that it utterly, it completed the utter transformation of the Republican Party from the Republican Party to the Trump Party. It started before the campaign, but it was absolutely solidified. This is not Reagan's Republican Party. It's not Bush's Republican Party. It's not Paul Ryan's. It's not Mitt Romney's. This is an entirely different Republican Party, both substantively in terms of policy and just in terms of the force of the personality of Trump. How long that lasts, what it means after there is no longer a Donald Trump, remains to be seen. But I don't think you suddenly go back to the old Republican Party that's gone the country. I think it just solidified that division in our country that is not going to be overcome after Trump is gone. I mean, we are in a place where we have a political and cultural divide in the country that I don't think is going to go away. And, you know, in terms of my legacy on this or I don't know if I even look at it that way, but I, what I hope people will say is, look, 50 years from now, 100 years from now, people are going to want to ask, what the hell was that all about? And I hope that these books, especially this one, somebody can say, read this and you'll get a sense of what it was like and how it happened. Happened. All right. Get it before it's banned, y'. All. Retribution, Donald Trump and the campaign that changed America. Jonathan Call, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining us. Hey, it's awesome to be with the Breakfast Club. Thank you. Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Let's get to the latest with Lauren. Lauren becoming a straight fat. She gets them from somebody that knows somebody. Somebody. She gets the details. Girl that knows a little bit about everything. She be having the latest on the Latest with Lauren LaRosa. Sometimes you have facts, sometimes she have details. Sometimes she have a little bit of everything on the Breakfast Club. First of all, Jeff, I know when you not paying attention what I said, whenever you pretend to read, that's how I know you. You just playing. Okay? She'll pick up a stack of papers and start looking at them all serious. Okay. All right, go ahead. So just announced, Jake Paul has announced that the Next fight he will take, which will be streamed on Netflix, will be against Anthony Joshua. Now this is following. Can I say something real quick? What? Jake Paul, my kind of white boy. I love a white boy that's not afraid to die. You hear me? I love when a white. Because white boys be. That's what you call serious white boy. And when they be doing these like, like crazy extreme stunts where they not afraid to die. Him getting in the ring with Anthony Joshua, you got my respect. Now Jake Paul dropping the clues bombs to Jake Paul. I got Anthony Joshua. I got action figure. He's a. A two time heavyweight champion, Olympic gold medalist, sanctioned professional boxer. He also fights at 100 more pounds than Jake Paul has been known to fight at. And listen, we've seen Anthony Joshua get his ass kicked in the ring a few times. Times. But I'm telling you right now, he ain't getting his ass kicked against Jake Paul. British, right? British. Right now he got four losses. So yeah, he's against other heavyweight fighters. Okay. Against Usick, who's one of the greatest boxers of all time. He lost twice. Okay. And he lost to Daniel Dubois, who gets busy. All right. Ruiz. Okay, but. All right, that shouldn't probably happen, but whatever. Heavyweight, yeah, he get busy. Yeah. Damn. So what weight class is older. So you know, the people probably sleeping on him like 36, 37. That's not old boxing. I don't even think he. Is he that old? Yeah, he's 36. Oh, 36. He had a birthday October 15th. Okay. Yeah. Damn. Jake Paul dropped. He released a statement. He says this isn't an AI simulation. This is judgment day. A professional heavyweight fight against an elite world champion in his prime. When I beat Anthony Joshua, every doubt will disappear. He's talking to you, Charlemagne. Okay. And no one can deny me the opportunity to fight for a world title. To all my haters, this is what you wanted. To the people of the United Kingdom, I am sorry. On Friday, December 19, under the lights of Miami. Live globally only on Netflix. The torch gets passed and Britain's Goliath gets put to sleep. What day is that? It's going to be December 19th in Miami. So this is to replace the fight with Javante? Yeah, this has. So he picked a super heavyweight dude to fight. Respect. Dropping a clues bombs for Jake. Palm Town. I love a white boy who's not afraid to die. That's my type of white white boy in right now. So Joshua had to be. He had to be in shape. He had to be in boxing shape, right? Because the fight is in a month. Yeah, that's. That's like. Have you ever seen Anthony Joshua? Yes, absolutely. But sometimes boxes are not in boxing shape unless they're about to fight, man. Listen, AJ can wake out his sleep. All right? Okay. And put Jake Paul to sleep. And I. And I ain't taking nothing from Jake Paul. I'm just telling you. I respect the fact that Jake Paul is getting in the ring with somebody like Anthony Joshua, but I'm telling you. Night, night, night. But is it rigged, though? Like, is this. You know, are these, like. Yeah, like, are these fights set up for. Because Jake Paul doesn't do rig fights. Okay. All right. And I'm saying that for legal purposes, so he's willing. Willing to die the way Charlemagne is hyping his man up. It's because if you want to be the best, you got to go for the best. He's trying to. He's punching us. I don't see AJ pulling no punches. No, I don't see that. No. He going to try to knock him out. Anthony Joshua posted the fight and he said he's a loco man. Yeah. That's all he said. And he posted the. Why you mad? I ain't vs Joshua.com for the tickets. Let's go. Just go. I'm with it. Somebody said, charlotte, get off your knees. But go ahead, continue on. Get off my knees for who? Anthony Joshua? Yeah. You going to be saying that to Jake Paul on fight night? Jake, please get up off your knees. Jake. Get up off your knees, indeed. If Jake Paul wins, then what? It's not gonna happen. How about that? There ain't gonna be no. Then what? Okay, okay. It's not happening. It's gonna be a big payday for both of them. It's gonna be a huge payday. I cannot wait, cuz I'm tuned in, baby. I don't know too much about boxing, but I remember when Jake Paul first started fighting, people thought he was a joke, and then he started winning some fights. I don't think Jake a joke at all. I'm too. I have not missed the Jake Paul fight. Jake Paul is very entertaining and he puts together good fights. And I'm happy that he's getting in the ring. Ring with an actual, real, official hall of Fame boxer. Okay. Yeah. Whose career is nowhere near done, by the way. But we'll see what happens. We'll see what happens. Nothing. What none of y' all YouTubers or anybody says AJ putting them to sleep. All right, Continue on Lauren. Night night, Jake Paul. But I can't wait to watch it. Me too. What else you got? Well, in other news and other announcements, Ryan Coogler has confirmed that he is right now working on Black Panther 3. That is the new Next movie that will be happening. Let's take a listen. How quickly will you do that third Black Panther? I mean, if it was anybody with you, I would say I can either confirm or not. We working that. We working on it hard. Yeah, working on it. So it's next. Yes, it's the next movie. Yeah, Next movie. Yeah. So people have been, you know, there's been so much conversation from Denzel Washington mentioning things to whether, you know, certain people will be playing certain damson. Yeah. Take on t'. Challa. But now we know the movie is coming, so we gonna be getting some answers real soon. Dope. That's what's up. Yes. And as we close, speaking of, uh, you know, all things staring up havoc, uh, Remy Ma says she's turned over a new leaf. Let's take a listen. Remy Ma. So I have a new thing. Right. As I said, I'm not. I'm not gonna get in no trouble. I'm not gonna put my hands on nobody. I'm not gonna curse nobody out. I'm not gonna expose nobody. I. I' ma just chill when I tell y'. All, oh, my God, it's so hard. But then I just wipe it, go on my day and realize, like, how great my life really is and I'll be over it. Don't come in here trying to monitor me. Yeah. So Remy Ma says she's doing other things and also too, I wanted. I played this because I wanted to mention the fact and we didn't cover it when she first announced it, but I know she's kind of been like, out the way a bit, but she's been working on a digital network, which is where she says a lot of her focus is going. It's called the Remy Network. It's a free ad supported streaming platform launching Thanksgiving Day. So it'll be launching next week. Week. And it's assigned to be like a home for like hip hop culture content. Like, you can put your content on there. You're able to. She helps you build up numbers, money, all the things around content because she's been doing so much for herself for all of her career. She said so. Yeah. It was mainly for artists. Artists and content creators. Yeah. But particularly black creators to tell their stories. All right. I think she was doing a movie too. I seen her doing a movie too. So salute to Remy Yeah. All right. Well, that's the latest with Lauren. Let's get to the main mix. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess. Hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club again. Salute to De La Soul and Jonathan call for joining us this morning. Yes, man. De La Soul's new album is out right now. It's called Cabin in the sky next week. It comes out November 21st. Yes. Comes out November 21st. I'll be forgetting we be having these albums before other people do, but, you know. Yes. Salute to De La Soul, man. Legends in the game. Salute to Jonathan Carr. His new book, Retribution. Donald Trump and the Campaign that Changed America, is out right now. Salute to le. I went to Leo's Bat Mitzvah this weekend. My first Bat Mitzvah. It was very different, but I enjoyed it, like, definitely. Yeah, it was. They party. They party, party, party. They pick up the whole family in a chair, and they spin the chair around. It was dope. It was. It was new, but it was. Enjoyed it. It was cool. It was cool. That's what's up, y'. All. Yeah. And shout out to Toledo, Ohio, y'. All. I had shows there over the weekend, and Detroit came out. Perrysburg came out. That's like the county of Toledo. What? I didn't know. Yo, tell me if you notice, because they love you in Detroit. You. I know you love Detroit. Yeah. Yo, Toledo and Detroit, they beef heavy, right? I know that. So I get on stage, you know, I. I'm like, what? What's up? Toledo. Make some noise. They made some noise. They like. I'm like, detroit. Because I know they right there. I had to fly into Detroit to get to Toledo, So I'm like, detroit. They was in there heavy, right? So out of nowhere, this drunk dude from Toledo, man. F all that D ish, man. We, man. Yeah. They always talking about Toledo is, baby. Detroit and Detroit. Detroit, junior. We do our own ish up here. We got our own. Anybody want to say something? Can get, man. It was a table of Detroit guys to the right. You know, all of them. I know them because they all got on the bus. You got on the pair of buffs, man. They was quiet, but they was looking like, all right. You know what I'm saying? Then they was outside. Wait. It was just so. I did not know that they beefed that heavy. Yeah, I didn't know that. I didn't know that, man. So I just want to say salute. I'm glad it was no violence, though. Shout out to My trans homie came out to my show, been supporting me, rocking with me. He from. He from Detroit, too. I was with. That was my homie since he was a girl. You know what I'm saying? Now he, you know, now he might. So he came out right up at the front. Yes. From the D, even though he don't have one anymore. Yeah. You're not. No, he has one now. He had a P at first, like, oh, this person has been my fan since he was a woman. And. Yeah. And he finally fully transitioned and. And he set up the front and he, like, was like, yo, it's me. And I was like, you know who? But then he told me and showed me the pictures. I'm like, oh, it's you. You finally finished your transition or whatever like that. So, yeah, shout out to him, y'. All. Shout out. Shout out. Man, I had. I had a lot of fun doing Toledo, Ohio, so. All right, well, you got a positive note. Shallow. I do, man. It comes from one of my favorite authors, Dr. Wayne W. Dyer. Dr. Wayne W. Dyer said, the essential lesson I've learned in life is to just be yourself. Treasure the magnificent being that you are, and recognize first and foremost, you're not here as a human being only. You're a spiritual being having a human experience. Have a great Monday, y'. All. Breakfast club. Y' all finished or y' all done? What a matchup we got, y'. All. This is that classic HBCU vibe. Non stop action. The band is rocking and the crowd lit chant. Echo drum beat. 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