FULL SHOW: Drake Takes Shots At Kendrick, Dr. Dre & More On New Leaked Song + Kier Gaines Interview

Summary

The Breakfast Club – Full Show Recap (May 14, 2026)

Hosts: Charlamagne Tha God, Jess Hilarious, DJ Envy (absent), Lauren LaRosa
Special Guest: Kier Gaines (Therapist & Podcaster)
Key Segments: Latest hip-hop news (Drake vs. Kendrick & others), Voting rights updates, Mental health, Listener call-ins, Parenting, Nicki Minaj/Trump, T.I. celebration

Episode Overview

Wednesday's edition of The Breakfast Club delivered a mix of hip-hop drama, heated debates over political and mental health issues, and real talk about parenting and healing. The hosts broke down the latest in the ongoing Kendrick Lamar–Drake beef after a new Drake record leaked, gave the floor to noted licensed therapist Kier Gaines for an engaging and insightful interview around healing and the pitfalls of Internet therapy, and explored the complexities of community, celebrity politics (including Nicki Minaj aligning with MAGA/Trump), and accountability.

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Key Topics & Discussion Points

1. Drake’s Latest Shots & Album Hype

Segment begins: 26:13

• Drake’s new timestamp track “1am Albany” leaked ahead of his album "Iceman" (dropping midnight May 15).

• Drake takes jabs at Kendrick Lamar, Dr. Dre, LeBron, Lucian Grainge (UMG head), and Joe Budden.

  “Get over the L you took to Kendrick already. Because this record just continues the conversation that Drake is the biggest sore loser rapper's ever seen.”
  – Charlamagne Tha God (28:16)

• The crew argues the content is stagnant, with hosts wishing for new directions from Drake.

• Lauren LaRosa: “I hope this was his final healing song and this won’t be the future.” (29:15)

• Jess Hilarious notes: “Are you supposed to stop? Like, if you got some more to say, you just supposed to keep it on the tuck?” (28:18)

• They dissect Drake’s bars about Dr. Dre and alleged hypocrisy.

2. Political & Social Headlines

Georgia, Louisiana, Tennessee Voting Rights & Redistricting

Timestamps: 07:32–11:39; 35:03–38:44

• Updates on Supreme Court rulings enabling southern states (like Georgia & Louisiana) to redraw maps, threatening Black voting power.
• GOP maneuvers seen as rolling back Voting Rights Act protections, with lawsuits and in-state protests underway (e.g., Tennessee Dems punished for resistance).
• Charlamagne: “What I'm not hearing about is what's being done to combat that.” (10:07)

Immigration Fears and the FIFA World Cup

Starts: 35:26

• Homeland Security may deploy ICE at stadiums; officials claim arrests aren’t the ‘mission,’ but immigrant advocates and cities worry this will keep visitors away.
• Additional concern over sluggish ticket/hotel purchases, possibly due to economy or enforcement fears.

Comcast/Xfinity Data Breach Settlement

38:48

• Up to $10,000 available for proven losses after massive hack; most will get $50 due to lack of receipts.

Instagram’s New ‘Instances’ Feature

40:44

• New disappearing photo feature harks back to Snapchat. The crew is unimpressed, calling it confusing and “something nobody asked for.”

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3. Listener Call-Ins: “Get It Off Your Chest” & "Just Fix My Mess"

Starts: 12:27; Advice at 85:41

• Act of Service/Marriage Reflection: Caller (Ty Milton) shares about his 20th anniversary and the value of acts of service.

  • “Sometimes the more valuable things are spending time and experiences… always more valuable than any money you could spend.”
    (13:28)

• Comedy & Double Standards: A comic from New Orleans discusses struggles with racial material & today’s PC climate.

  • Jess: “On the stage, I let it fly… People come to see me, they know what they gonna get and they're not offended.” (18:28)

• Parenting Struggles: A listener asks about DNA testing for kids a relative is raising as his own. Jess encourages honesty but sensitivity, noting, “At some point… he needs assistance." (87:9)

• Friendship Drama: Caller caught in ongoing fake-wrestling beef—Jess advises forgiveness, noting “all I see is, is a hurt guy” (92:40).

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4. Mental Health in the Social Media Era – Kier Gaines Interview

Segment: 43:47–69:13

Becoming a Licensed Therapist

• Kier started as a social media content creator, became a licensed therapist.
• Emphasizes responsibility and ethics in providing advice online.
• By being licensed, “it makes sure that I'm ethically sound, make sure people are safe around me… All that psycho babble doesn't help when you got to be in a room with somebody and feel your way around that person.” (44:19, 45:25)
• Critiques the rise of “therapy-speak” and influencer advice with no qualifications.
  • “We got all the words but we don't got any wisdom—that's like having a map with no way points.” (45:25)

Cultural Competency in Therapy

• Most standard practices not normed on Black people; highlights importance of cultural understanding and self-disclosure for trust.
  • “The robotic cut-off wall of a therapist... don't work for Black men.” (50:30)
• Host reflections: sometimes it is about “fit,” regardless of background.
  • “Most effective therapist I ever had, 65-year-old white woman... it just so happened to bounce with the way that I understand…” – Kier Gaines (51:19)

Therapy is Like Dating

• “Finding a therapist is different than finding a doctor... Attitude matters. I fired many a therapist before because it just wasn’t a good fit.” (53:04)

Dangers of DIY/Influencer Therapy

• Social media “doesn’t make room for nuance.” Licensed clinicians are worried about misinformation and improper titles/ethics.
• “Anybody can talk about their own trauma. But once you begin to give advice people take… you have a duty to know what you’re talking about and represent yourself appropriately.” (62:05)
• Warns about creators developing emotional dependency on their audience.

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5. Nicki Minaj Supports Trump/Publicly Explains Shift

99:55–104:53

• Nicki, in Time interview, reveals feeling forced to suppress pro-Trump leanings due to industry pressure.
  • Cites Obama’s perceived condescension, alleged harm from Jay Z, and being disappointed with Democratic “expectations.”
  • Swatting incidents at her CA home and lack of response from Gov. Gavin Newsom catalyzed her to publicly join MAGA.
  • “She says, with all the money I spend in taxes… Newsom did not respond… but Republicans did.” – Lauren LaRosa (102:56)
• Crew questions logic of immediately blaming the governor, points out her personal experiences don’t reflect most fans’ realities.
  • “Overall, I guarantee you the people that buy your albums economically are doing way worse right now and can't pick up the phone and call Gavin Newsom if they tried.” – Charlamagne (105:22)

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6. Parenting Gone Wrong – “Donkey of the Day”

78:25–85:13

• Utah parents charged after allegedly zip-tying & locking 11-year-old daughter in garage “to teach her about homelessness.”
• Charlemagne: “You are not teaching your child how to be homeless, you are teaching your child how to be traumatized.” (82:14)
• Reminds parents that “there’s a difference between discipline and cruelty and abuse.”

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7. Other Notable Pop Culture & Local Highlights

• T.I. honored in Atlanta for “King” album and 20 years since “ATL” film (106:06)
• Chanel Jones ("Today Show") celebrates 4 weeks on NYT bestseller list (99:01)
• Shoutouts: Jess’s Atlanta book event, black-owned businesses, and fans for #1 Breakfast Club ranking in ATL (107:44)

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Memorable Quotes

Charlamagne Tha God:

• “Don’t let your setback become your identity. God damn.” (30:31)
• “[Therapists should remember] It is just a job I’m qualified to do. Being a therapist does not exonerate me from the human experience.” (67:12)

Jess Hilarious:

• “On the stage, I let it fly… The people come to see me, they know what they gonna get and they're not offended.” (18:28)
• [On parenting/advice] “Being a parent... especially, a single parent of three is not easy. I applaud him.” (87:06)

Kier Gaines:

• “We got all the words, but we don’t got any wisdom.” (45:25)
• “Cultural competency is not treating everyone the same—meet people where they are.” (48:54)
• “I’m a therapist, but I’m not your therapist. If you’re struggling with these things, seek a licensed professional.” (55:56)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [07:32] – Voting Rights Updates
• [12:27] – “Get It Off Your Chest” Call-ins
• [26:13] – Drake Leaked Song & Album Debate
• [35:26] – Immigration World Cup Fears
• [43:47] – Kier Gaines Interview: Mental Health, Online Therapy
• [78:25] – Donkey of the Day: Utah Child Abuse
• [85:41] – Just Fix My Mess (Advice calls)
• [99:55] – Nicki Minaj Goes Public as Trump Supporter
• [106:06] – T.I. Honored in Atlanta

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Final Takeaways

This episode packs substance behind the spectacle—lifting the covers on the mental health influencer boom, weighing in on rap drama, and spotlighting the political maneuvers affecting Black voting rights. Kier Gaines’s thoughtful insight brings balance amid the headlines and humor. Nicki Minaj’s Trump support sparks critical questions about celebrity activism and privilege. And as always, The Breakfast Club “keeps it real” — whether mending friendships, advising tired parents, or clowning fellow hosts.

Positive Note:
“The more you practice the art of thankfulness, the more you have to be thankful for.” (110:11)

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For anyone who missed the episode:
You’ll come away with rich dialogue on hip-hop, hard truths about therapy and parenting, fresh news on voting fights, and the kind of real advice and banter only The Breakfast Club delivers.

Transcript

[Lauren LaRosa]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wake you up.

[Kier Gaines]

Wake that ass up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Lauren LaRosa]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yo, yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo.

[Jess Hilarious]

Good morning, Charlamagne.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Good morning, Jess. Hilarious. Peace to the planet. It's Thursday. Hey, how y' all feel out there? I feel blessed. Black and highly favored. Happy to be here another day to serve our beautiful listeners. Good morning. Can we turn the screens on so I can see Jess? I mean, I know this is radio and, you know, I don't need to see her because we can just talk, but I still would like to see her. You in atl, right?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes, I am.

[Jess Hilarious]

I'm an atl. And shout out to everybody that came up last night to Estes Music Lounge at Iheart in Atlanta. Yo. It was so dope. This is like my new Lord calling y'.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All.

[Jess Hilarious]

I'm telling you. Fixing people's mess and diving into people's experience, what they got going on with co parenting and how I'm helping moms and dads. I love the fact that I can help men as well, because the book Till Death Do We Parent, my co parenting memoir, is solely told from my perspective, but the fact that I can provide insight, you know, on Rome's behalf when he's not here, like when the dad's got questions about the bitter baby moms and, you know, they're taking accountability as well, but they love. Everybody just keeps telling me, especially the men, how they love that I take accountability and that, you know, hopefully that the women in their life can do it. I just love hearing that. So it's a lot of deep connect, a lot of dope connections being made. A lot of warm stories, stories that warm my heart. We always got somebody crying, and I love it. It's not a bad thing, but it's just, like, breakthrough moments that I'm seeing in real time. So I love it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's a beautiful thing when you can find a purpose and when you find something that's bigger than you. Yes. It's always good when you are pouring into other people.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah. So once again, thank you, Charlemagne, for. For, you know, Black Privilege Publishing and Shaman, Simon and Schuster. I appreciate it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, good. Did you find. Did you eat anything good, though? You. You in Atlanta? I want to hear about what you ate. Did you eat anything good?

[Jess Hilarious]

No, I wasn't able to get back. Yo. My day was packed. I had. I sat down with Crystal Renee Hayes, like, yesterday.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What that got to do with food?

[Jess Hilarious]

I said, yo, because I didn't have time.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You don't got time to eat. And then when you pass out looking silly at a book signing, who fault that gonna be?

[Jess Hilarious]

I know. Well, Chr. Velvet Taco, we stopped past this, of

[Charlamagne Tha God]

course, but it's really good, yo. It's not crazy. Chris so Mexican, but I got all the way in Atlanta, and he just see Taco and he gotta stop. God damn, Chris.

[Jess Hilarious]

Look, today we're gonna go eat some really, really good food, though. We're gonna eat some really good food, and we're gonna go see One Spoon of Chocolate. So that. That's what we gonna do with our day after I go sit down at Good Day Atlanta.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

By the way, speaking of One Spoon of chocolate.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Ain't none of y' all talking to me about that movie. And I told you how good that movie was last.

[Jess Hilarious]

I'm gonna be able to tomorrow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I've not had one person come up to me and be like, oh, no, you know, I'm lying. I'm lying, I'm lying. I did have a couple people come up to me and tell me, yo, one spoon of chocolate was really, really, really good. But I really want y' all to go watch that movie because that should be a discussion piece.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yes, yes, yes. Oh, I had egg flip. They sponsored the event last night. They had, like, all types of burritos, Eggs.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, my God. Just because she's half Mexican, y' all gotta stop this. Y' all in Atlanta. Louis V. Bring us some real Southern food.

[Kier Gaines]

What?

[Jess Hilarious]

I know, yo. Dang, Just. Whatever. Anything I say, anything I say, it's just true.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You're married to a Mexican. Every. Tacos, burritos. What I'm. Are you. I'm not making this up.

[Jess Hilarious]

It was breakfast burritos, yo. They had the eggs with the cheese and the salsa and the pico de gallo. You know, the guacamole. It was. It was good, though.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You lucky I don't fart in my clothes. Just you talking just made me gathy just now. But I don't. I don't. I don't fart in my clothes. Now, listen, there's a brother coming in this morning, man, who I absolutely love. His name is Kier Gaines, okay? He has a podcast called Learned the Hard Way, and he has a book coming out this September. The name of the book is slipping me. It's slipping my mind right now. But he is a brilliant brother. And, you know, it is world. It is a mental health awareness month.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So, you know, Kia. And, you know, another thing I like about Kier, he started on social media, like, about eight, nine years ago. He had a video that went viral with his daughter, but since then he has become a licensed therapist.

[Jess Hilarious]

Oh, that's dope.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So he's not just a social media influencer, you know, out here giving inspirational messaging with nothing behind it. He's actually a licensed therapist. So we'll be talking to Kiera Gaines later this morning.

[Jess Hilarious]

Dope.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay. All right. Mimi Brown is up next with front page news. Of course, Lauren LaRosa will be here with the latest as well. It's the world's most dangerous morning show, the Breakfast Club. What are we starting the show with? Oh, okay, okay. You can't never go wrong with dreams and nightmares. Intro in the morning, it's Breakfast Club. Ready? It's the world's most dangerous morning show, the Breakfast Club. DJ Envy. Jess. Hilarious Charlamagne. Tha God. That's me. DJ Envy's not here today day, but it's time for front page news with Mimi Brown. But first, let me give you some sports course. Like I care. The Cleveland Cavaliers played the Detroit Pistons last night and Cleveland beat Detroit 117, 113. Cleveland is up 32 in that series. That's all I got. That's all I got.

[Caller / Guest]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What we got on front page news?

[Mimi Brown]

Good morning, Shar.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Good morning, Jess.

[Mimi Brown]

How y' all doing this morning?

[Jess Hilarious]

Good morning, Mimi.

[Mimi Brown]

Good morning. Okay, so this morning we are going to start in Georgia where the battle over voting rights and political power in the south is continuing to escalate after that major Supreme Court ruling on congressional maps. We're going to stay on this because this is such an important topic. Georgia governor Brian Kemp, he is now officially called a special legislative session focusing on specifically redistricting. And so here's why this matters. So after the Supreme Court, that recent Louisiana decision, Republican led states across the south are now moving to redraw congressional maps in ways that could reshape the election for years to come. Now that ruling, it made it easier for states to challenge and roll back some of made majority black voting districts that had previously been protected under the Voting Rights Act. Now, Georgia Republicans say the state needs new maps before its 2028 election cycle. A lot of states are rushing to do it before the 2026 midterms, but Georgia is saying that they're they're going to try and do theirs before the 2028 election cycle to comply with the court's new ruling. Now, Governor Kemp says the goal is to create what Republicans call fair traditional districts based more on geography and like the comp the area and less about race. That's what they say. But Democrats and voting rights groups say something very different is happening. And they argue that this is part of a broader push to weaken black voting power in a state where. Atlanta. You know, we have Atlanta. We have black. A lot of black people in Atlanta. Right. Black voters have become a major force in turning Georgia into one of the country's most important political battleground states. So let's listen to a Georgia lawmaker followed by governor him.

[State Farm Agent]

But let's be very clear.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He is redrawing the maps.

[DJ Envy]

And today's news proves he is going

[Charlamagne Tha God]

to redraw the maps under the decision in Calais to reduce black voting power. Well, I mean, that doesn't surprise me. They'd say that. But, I mean, they haven't seen the maps yet, so, you know, they might want to wait and see what the legislature does.

[Mimi Brown]

So, no, we haven't seen the maps yet, but if we are following what every other state is doing, we can only imagine what those maps may look like. Right. And so Georgia's not alone. We've been seeing this in Alabama, Louisiana, Texas, Missouri, and Tennessee, all after the Supreme Court ruling. You know, they reopened that battle over maps. And Republicans, they say that they are just correcting something that was unconstitutional because it was based on race. But Democrats are arguing that this is a coordinated effort to dilute black political power across the South.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I mean, we heard the senator from South Carolina say that yesterday, right?

[Mimi Brown]

Yes, yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, listen, every day at the. Senator Massey, every day I keep hearing about the GOP in Southern states, redistricting, maps. What I'm not hearing about is what's being done to combat that. I know it's gerrymandering lawsuits out there, but what else is happening?

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah, I mean, there's some organization happening, and we're going to talk about some more of that tomorrow. I'm doing some reporting on that, but really quickly, too. And if you're wondering how serious this fight over voting maps is going in the south. And Tennessee, Democratic lawmakers are now being punished after a protest. You know, they protested those congressional maps that they say that are weakening black voting power. So last week, Republicans, they approved that map in Tennessee to split Memphis into three different. Three different majority districts. And critics say that the move, of course, is going to wipe out Tennessee's only black district, which is. Which is Memphis. But during that vote, Democratic lawmakers, they protested on the House floor by linking arms and trying to slow down the process. Now, Tennessee lawmakers, Speaker Cameron Sexton says Democrats involved in those protests are being removed from House committees.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let's listen to take Every Democrat off committee is unprecedented. I represent 70,000 people just like he does. He has the right to speak up. I have the right to speak up as well. About one and a half million Tennesseans are losing their representation on those committees. And they did that. And then that wasn't enough. They removed representation from all the Democrats in this state. So you're telling me they are doing things to combat the redistricting, but they're getting punished.

[Mimi Brown]

They're getting punished. And what's so important is that committees matter because those are where the laws are shaped, debated. You know, that's where they, they, they talk about things before they go for a public vote. And if you have no Democrats at all on any committees, that means all the committees in Tennessee right now are just Republican led. So just something to continue to watch in Tennessee. And y', all, coming up at 7, there's a new Instagram update that people are talking about. Some people love it, some people hate it, Some people are asking, did we ask for this? We'll talk about it next.

[Jess Hilarious]

Lord Jesus.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, when we come back, it's get it off your chest. 1-800-585-1051. If you wanna call right now and tell us why you're blessed. If you wanna call and tell us why you're stressed, you can do both. It's the world's most dangerous morning show, the Breakfast Club.

[Kier Gaines]

Wake up, wake up, Wake your ass.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This is your time to get it off your chest.

[Kier Gaines]

Whether you're mad or blessed, we wanna

[Charlamagne Tha God]

hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Ty Milton from California. How are you, sir? Get it off your chest.

[Caller / Guest]

Hey, good morning, Charlamagne. Jess, DJ Envy. I want to give a shout out to my beautiful wife, Serena. This is my high school sweetheart. This is going to be our 20th year of marriage. We got four kids, two girls, two boys.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Amazing.

[Caller / Guest]

And I want to give a shout out. Yeah, also to my twin brother, Tayari. We do a podcast called Thai Twins. Twinning ain't easy on YouTube. Y' all should check it out. We've been interviewing twins over a year. We've interviewed about 50 twins.

[Jess Hilarious]

And it's.

[Caller / Guest]

It's just like a really beautiful thing we've been doing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Happy anniversary. What you doing for the wife today, man? You got anything nice playing?

[Caller / Guest]

Well, my wife travels, so she's coming in from town today and I'm probably cook dinner. I'm a cook dinner type of guy. I like to cook. I like to do things for my wife, you know, acts of service and then maybe Watching chill and watch a movie. You know, something real sweet like that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Acts and services, your love language.

[Caller / Guest]

Yeah. When you've been married for a long time and you know what it's about, sometimes, you know, the more valuable things are spending time and the experiences are always going to be more valuable than any money you could spend.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I love that, my brother. Enjoy your day, man. Send my blessings to the queen, bro.

[Caller / Guest]

Thank you, guys. God bless you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Bless you, too. Peace. Good morning. Who's this?

[Caller / Guest]

Yo, this move has from the port.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How y' all doing? What's up? Get it off your chest.

[Caller / Guest]

I'm good, man. I just wanted to say how blessed

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I am this morning.

[Caller / Guest]

Yo, I've been up since 4:30.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Got me a workout in.

[Caller / Guest]

Took a run before working, everything. I'm just happy to be alive, for real, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's all that matters at the end of the day. I know it's a lot going on in the world. People got a lot of different reasons to be stressed out. But, man, be thankful for the. The. I want to say the little things, but life is a big thing. Yeah.

[Caller / Guest]

And it's a lot of the little things that just got me blessed.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You feel me? Yeah.

[Caller / Guest]

Hey, I got a question. Whoever uploads y' all video or y' all to the AHA Radio, they cut out the positive note of the day yesterday, and I was a little upset about that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Thank you for telling me that. Now I'm about to go yell at somebody. Oh, God. Yeah.

[Caller / Guest]

Nah, I need somebody to fix that,

[Charlamagne Tha God]

because I do look forward to hearing your positive notes. That means nobody listened to the whole show. See what I'm saying?

[Jess Hilarious]

He just got.

[Caller / Guest]

I work sometimes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I ain't able to hear y', all,

[Caller / Guest]

and so I just kind of catch

[Charlamagne Tha God]

it on the back end on the

[Caller / Guest]

app and stuff throughout my day, especially once I upload after lunch.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I can't even tell you what it was because I forgot, but thank you, my brother. Yo, who uploaded it yesterday? I need to know right now. Okay. Who was it? Arthur? Was that you? Huh? We'll talk about it. We'll come back with more. Get it off your chest. 1-800-585-1051. If you want to call up and tell us why you're blessed, do that. If you want to call up and tell us why you're scratched, you can do that as well. It's the world's most dangerous morning show, the Breakfast Club. This is your time to get it

[Kier Gaines]

off your chest, whether you're Mad or blessed. 800-585-1051.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Who's this?

[Caller / Guest]

Good morning. This is Edward Spots from New Orleans.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What's up, my brother? Get it on your chest. God damn. You said New Orleans and my stomach started growling. I want, I want, I want all Larry Moreau's restaurants right now. Right, Literally right now.

[Caller / Guest]

How y' all doing? Just hilarious. And Lori LaRosa, it's nice to be here again. Maybe I'll call in and talk about an event or stink. But right now I'm calling about Jeff Landry because honestly, he's worse than Trump. And I tell people this all the time, that Jeff Landry is literally the worst thing that's happened to New Orleans. And so before I get too deep into him, I want to tell people that Katie Bug is where you can go to search find a petition to recall Jeff Landry.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I saw what he did. What's the brother name? Who won the election by 68%. And they removed his seat.

[Caller / Guest]

Yeah, yeah. And they're trying to change the maps and the voting and the amount of power that black people have in choosing policies in Louisiana. And the thing is, it's like it's been going on for a while because he wants to crucify young black kids for small petty crimes. And he recently did a speech where he basically said, everything up, everything but these gotta go. And so that's what really perpetuated the recall. So that was the first thing I wanted to jump on. Katie Bug, K a t I I 3 b u g is how you can find information on a recall petition.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And what exactly is a recall petition? For people who don't know, it's basically

[Caller / Guest]

get him out of office. So the more until they get 500,000 signatures, this petition would get him out of office. Granted. I don't know how successful it's going to be, but it's worth the effort. And right now you have lines building up around certain locations. So if you need information, Katie bugs Katie. I'm sorry, I should say her full name. Kaitlyn Patricia Collins was the person who started this petition. And so if you're looking for more information, you should reach out to that. The next thing I want to talk about before I forget is the Kevin Hart roast. Have you heard about that?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, haven't heard anything about it. Tell us. Put us on game.

[Caller / Guest]

Okay, I'm gonna put us on game. So I did 14 shows of stand up comedy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, sir.

[Caller / Guest]

And the reason why I stopped doing comedy was because once I got to the part where it started talking about roasting and I realized, oh, in 2026, roasting doesn't look the same as it did during Def Comedy Jam days when people were talking about sneakers or poverty or whatever it may be. Now it's like you can say some things and it really is aligning with the agenda of the Republican Party, you know what I mean? So you can't just say these racial jokes anymore without them holding weight to what's happening right now. And honestly, I love comedy. I think it's the most beautiful, truth telling thing about the world. And I think it helps us digest the truth a little bit better. But I. Comedy now looks different. I guess my question for y' all as people who are on the radio and comedians and especially Jess, Hilarious, how do you navigate doing stand up comedy shows around the racial economy world right now and not hurting someone's feelings or staying true to what your political beliefs are while doing this show?

[Jess Hilarious]

See, on the stage, I let it fly. Like, it's different. Just hilarious on the radio and just hilarious online is very different from just on the stage. I don't walk on eggshells on stage. I say what I want. The people come to see me, they know what they gonna get and they're not offended. My audience is not offended. I talk about any and everything on the stage. I let it go. But I don't, I don't incorporate my political views into comedy. That's just not the type of comic I am.

[Caller / Guest]

That's real. And honestly, I'm gonna tell you right now, I align with that mantra more. Because one thing that stood out to me is your audience, like, knowing your audience. And I felt like that Kevin Hart roasting, it was like all these white comedians saying all these black jokes. It was like, well, God damn this drilling. Like, what is this? What is this? And the fact that Kevin Hart kind of woke up being like, oh, yeah, it was a great night and the world is like going crazy. I'm like, how does this work?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think the reason I wouldn't push back on the racial jokes is because I want black people to reserve the right to make racial jokes too. Where your cracker ass, cracker jokes. Okay. You know what I'm saying? White supremacist jokes. Like, I need, I need more of that. Like, you know what I'm saying?

[Caller / Guest]

I mean, I guess even that's tricky, right? Cause like, I don't know, like when I tried to do the roasting thing, it just didn't align with my spirit. Cause it's like I'm a storyteller, comedian. Like, I like to tell a long winded story and then boom. That's why you laughing. I just think the ropes thing has become the main thing. Like, I've never watched episode of Wild N out. Never. I've never seen episode Wild now, and it never appealed to me. So it was just the roasting thing has become the new thing. And I just miss the story, storytelling and comedy. And Grant, that was a.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. We only have but so much time.

[Caller / Guest]

Can I do one more thing?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, I got to put the red light on you. You used to do stand up. I got to put the red light on you right now. Okay.

[Caller / Guest]

Okay. One more thing. So I'm doing a dance class next week for people in New Orleans. Dance Battle New Orleans. Did not happen again, but we're going to do a dance class for people and Dance Battle New Orleans will come back next month. And I'm also performing on Sunday at the Maidstone Hotel. I love y'.

[Kier Gaines]

All.

[Caller / Guest]

Y' all are amazing. Thank you for listening to me rant and have a blessed day.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, sir.

[Caller / Guest]

Miss y' all and thank you always answering the call.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Miss you too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I hope to call again.

[Jess Hilarious]

Love you too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Jess Hilarious]

Peace, please.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

At this point, five, six times.

[Jess Hilarious]

He wanted a host at what it is at this point.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yo, Christ, get it off your chest. We do that every morning. But right now it's time for the Latest with Lauren LaRosa. Good morning, Lauren.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Good morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What you got?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes, so we do have the latest coming up. We are, what, one day away from Iceman's drop.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

At midnight.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Well, I mean, technically, though, it's the 14th. It comes out on the 15th. You know what I mean? It comes out at midnight, but there's a leak in the OVO camp because

[Jess Hilarious]

we done heard a song and is a big leak.

[Lauren LaRosa]

We gonna talk about it, though, because I don't know if this was the one to leak. We gonna talk about.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It was not a leak.

[Jess Hilarious]

It was drippy, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What it was, it's a Drake timestamp record. This is what he does before he drops an album.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Know what it let's get into the latest later.

[Jess Hilarious]

Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's the Breakfast Club.

[DJ Envy]

Yo, what up, y'?

[Jess Hilarious]

All?

[DJ Envy]

It's DJ Envy from the Breakfast Club. Now check this out. The first phone call that ever happened happened over 150 years ago. 150 years. That's before any of this. Before radio, before social media, before all the ways we stay connected. Today, that one call really started everything. And fast forward to now. It's springtime, the weather's breaking, people outside vibes are right again. Thank God. And it got me thinking, who haven't you talked to in a minute? And you know, through all these years and all these conversations, AT&T has been there connecting people in meaningful ways. This is more than a story of technological innovation. It's really a story about human connection. Real people, real moments and real relationships. So we celebrate over 150 years of connection. Let this be your reminder. Don't wait, make that call, send that text, pull up on somebody you care about. Because at the end of the day, those connections, that's what really matters.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Connecting changes everything.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

AT&T.

[DJ Envy]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

The wait was worth it. Positive affirmations and all the hard work, the keys to your dream home from the vision board have been secured.

[State Farm Agent]

I see you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

A whole new future awaits your planning. From top notch decor but on a

[Kier Gaines]

budget to late night backyard summer cookouts, life feels good.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Now comes the time to fill it with memories. What will you host first? Maybe movie night, game night. Stories that make us laugh and spades tournaments that make us cry. First you need to get movers and new furniture. And what about party favors? Will there be a theme?

[State Farm Agent]

Of course it's theme because you're always doing the most.

[Kier Gaines]

Oh yeah, the food to cook or order out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Don't forget to put it in the

[Kier Gaines]

group chat so everybody can always see

[Charlamagne Tha God]

who gonna be there.

[Kier Gaines]

All that planning can be stressful, but

[Charlamagne Tha God]

insuring your home shouldn't be.

[Kier Gaines]

And that's where State Farm comes in.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because State Farm agents can help you choose the coverage you need.

[Kier Gaines]

Just call, go online or check out the app.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

An agent is ready to help so

[Kier Gaines]

you can focus on showing off your new home.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

If you know, you know Like a good neighbor.

[State Farm Agent]

State Farm is there.

[Lauren LaRosa]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

You're talking ll cool.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, I'm not dumbing myself down. I'm being myself. I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything and everything. Little brown girls look at you and go, I want to be like you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Take me through that.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Take me through there.

[Kier Gaines]

The latest with Lauren o'. Neill.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Take me through there on the Breakfast Club. LL Cool B. Talk to me.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So yesterday there was an alleged quotation leak from a Drake album or a Drake song or of a Drake song. 1am Albany. Now we are only a day away, as I mentioned, from Iceman dropping. And this is a timestamp record. Drake does these traditionally. We've seen them with other projects.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Every time. Every time he, before he drops an album or a project, he drops a timestamp record.

[Lauren LaRosa]

For the most part, yes, for the most part. Now let's get into some of the shots that he's throwing. So first, of course, he throws Some shots at Kendrick. And then he goes into. He continues. He throws shots at LeBron. There's another shot that he takes at LeBron where he talks about switching teams. Yeah, he's talking about the pop out. And then he takes a shot at Lucian Grange, who is the big boss over there at Universal Music Group, who Drake is actively in a lawsuit with. And Dr. Dre.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What does the name spell without A.K. drake Dre.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah. D R, E without the A.K.

[Jess Hilarious]

dre. Yeah, like Dr. Dre.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Well, he's talking about the high five that Dr. Dre did at the Grammys when Kendrick was sick and all those, you know. But there has been some alleged. There's been some conversation around what age Misha lay was when Dr. J and me, Michelle A started dating. So I think that's what he's trying to bring up the conversation around. But how did y'.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All. Why would he bring that up when people say that about him? That wouldn't be smart.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Well, he's saying on this, on the bar, he's saying there's a special place in he double hockey sticks for people who laugh at things and then, you know, have done things themselves.

[Jess Hilarious]

That's.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, we can talk about that. But how did y' all feel about

[Lauren LaRosa]

what y' all heard?

[Jess Hilarious]

He definitely took some shots, man. I mean, and did we.

[Kier Gaines]

He.

[Jess Hilarious]

He took. He took shots at Joe, too, didn't he?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Joe Button.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Jess Hilarious]

Button. Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I feel about what I heard. Let me think about this question.

[Jess Hilarious]

What about the switching teams part, y'?

[Caller / Guest]

All.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what? I hope this. This is what I feel. I hope this isn't what Iceman is about, because if it is, I'm gonna just assume we calling Drake Iceman because he's frozen in time. Okay. It's like, bruh, get over the L. You took the Kendrick already. Because this record just continues the conversation that Drake is the biggest sore loser rapper's ever seen.

[Jess Hilarious]

But are you supposed to stop? Like, if you got some more to say, you just supposed to keep it on the tuck.

[Lauren LaRosa]

He's saying the same things, though. Like, I just wish that we didn't get what did I miss? And I think it would have been a bigger explosion if this was our first time hearing how he felt. But it sounds redundant.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

If he had more to say. He didn't have to wave the white flag two years ago. He's the one who put out the hard part six and wave the white flag. He didn't have to do that if he had more to say.

[Jess Hilarious]

But he been sitting on some Some words. He had to get some things off his chest.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And then you and you talked about whatever the Dre line was. But it's like Drake told Kendrick he needs to read the Bible. And the blasphemy he talks about means his amazing grace gonna be delayed. The Bible also talks about hypocrisy, Drake, and you are very hypocritical, okay, when it comes to how this battle went, because you be acting like you didn't say salacious things about him and your diss records. Y' all both went to hell on each other. But one of y', all, y' all definitely did. But one of y' all has moved on and the other haven't. And it's just like, don't let your setback become your identity. That's what I feel when I hear this record. Like, God dang, you still talking about this?

[Lauren LaRosa]

I hope this was his final healing song and this won't be the future.

[Jess Hilarious]

And maybe it was.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He need healing from losing a rap battle.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I mean, obviously, yes, yo.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yes. Damn. And we talk about y' all some haters.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, my God.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Mental health goes into rap battles, apparently.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You're right. Okay. I, I, I, I wish him well. I wish him healing. I just hope this not what Iceman is about. I I saying it's been time to move the page.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm a Drake fan, but this, I listened to this and I was like, that was it. That was what we got before this. Like, records are normally so like, oh,

[Charlamagne Tha God]

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We talking about just rap.

[Jess Hilarious]

Come on.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Phenomenal rapper is a phenomenal rapper, though.

[Lauren LaRosa]

That's not. Anybody debating that is is ridiculous. Ridiculous. I'm not debating that. What I'm saying is, what are we talking about and why? That's what I'm looking forward to. Iceman, you know what we talk about?

[Jess Hilarious]

You just heard it like this.

[Lauren LaRosa]

What we talk about why, again, Drake is a phenomenal rapper. That is not up for debate. He. He's always going to do the things that he does, right? Flip it, trip it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All the stuff the hell is wrong with you?

[Jess Hilarious]

You know how she do?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Smack it up, flip it, rub it, rub it down. Oh, no.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I just hope that we get gets. We get some other things from him. I don't know what else we want to hear him talk about, though, if I'm being honest. But I, I would love to hear it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I like hearing him rap, but, yeah, the content he chose to address is very, very, very mid, bro. Very mid. Once again, don't let your setback become your identity. God damn. Like, it got to be people in the studio telling him, all right, man, get over it already.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And what them label me is looking like around this album, if you cut, you coming for Lucian, as you know.

[Jess Hilarious]

Now, that's what my concern is. Like this, like, you coming for the guy that you're, you know, the label head.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You think Lucy and Cass.

[Jess Hilarious]

I know, but it's like. But can they do something, like, to his. You know what I mean? Can they stop at a block in some type of way?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why would they want to? They gonna eat regardless. Well, yeah, they know. Permanent friends and enemies when it comes to business. We the only idiots that think like that.

[Jess Hilarious]

Not we. I'm not we. Yo, like, stop jazz.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It's okay. We idiots.

[Jess Hilarious]

No, we is not.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No permanent friends and enemies when it comes. It comes to business.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Well, I am looking forward to Iceman to hear about what else Drake has to talk to us about. It's been something.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Ain't gonna be 40 this year. Yeah, I need. I want to hear more. I'm okay. I'm okay. You?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You took an L in a rap battle. You're mad at everybody because of it. It's time to move on.

[Caller / Guest]

Bro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Bro, you keep trying to reheat these cold french fries. You can't, even with an air fryer. Okay, we got Mimi, Brian coming back with front page news. It's the world's most dangerous morning show. The Breakfast Club.

[Lauren LaRosa]

The Black Effect Podcast Festival once again returned to Atlanta for another celebration of black voices, culture, storytelling, and community. The festival also hosted the Black Marketplace, presented by Shopify, where black owned entrepreneurs set up shop to promote and sell their products. Justin Ruff, walk me through the business.

[Jess Hilarious]

So I am a singer, songwriter.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Okay.

[Jess Hilarious]

And so this brand was inspired by music. And move.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Got you. I want to smell some candles. Let's get into the things. Which one is your absolute favorite? Let's start with that one.

[Jess Hilarious]

Let's start with a night off. Because I think no matter if you're a music lover or not, everybody can

[Lauren LaRosa]

appreciate if you breathe as a human. You need a night off.

[Jess Hilarious]

Everybody appreciates a night off.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Seriously.

[Jess Hilarious]

Smell that.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Oh, my God. Do you make these, like, naturally?

[Jess Hilarious]

Yes. And I kind of compose them the

[Kier Gaines]

same way I do music.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Right.

[Kier Gaines]

I want it to take you through a journey.

[Jess Hilarious]

The cool thing about them is they

[Lauren LaRosa]

all come with a QR code that

[Kier Gaines]

takes you to original music and a

[Jess Hilarious]

curated playlist for every candle.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wow.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And this is through Shopify.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yes. I am a creative and so I

[Kier Gaines]

chose Shopify because I wanted something easy,

[Jess Hilarious]

something that would allow me to build systems and allow me to still be

[Kier Gaines]

creative while the business ran on the back end. And Shopify makes that extremely easy to maneuver and to work with. I've got the website. I've got a place that can track the sales. I get data and reporting.

[Jess Hilarious]

It gives me everything at my fingertips

[Kier Gaines]

and allows me to still be creative in the process.

[Jess Hilarious]

Shopify has allowed me to see what customers are gravitating towards. It allows me to see what's working and what's not working.

[Kier Gaines]

And if I didn't have that, I

[Jess Hilarious]

think my life would be a hot mess. It is the perfect place to start.

[Kier Gaines]

It is the perfect place to, especially if you're a creative, to still get

[Jess Hilarious]

your creative juices out while having a

[Kier Gaines]

platform that really supports you and allows you to have the business in order. So I think Shopify for me, has been a lifesaver, and I'd recommend it to anybody starting out.

[Lauren LaRosa]

What is meet and greet?

[Jess Hilarious]

This is very warm and inviting. It really sets the space for.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It feels like a hug. It smells like a hug. That's what it should get.

[Mimi Brown]

That's exactly it. Vanilla.

[Lauren LaRosa]

There's like. Yeah, it's very like cocoa butter, amber warm.

[Kier Gaines]

Yeah.

[Jess Hilarious]

So I wanted to show people the

[Kier Gaines]

connection between scent and sound. So this is original music here.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So, like, when people are buying candles, is there certain songs you suggest with the candle as well, too?

[Jess Hilarious]

There are, and I've actually on the

[Kier Gaines]

playlist, I've got original music tied in, so.

[Jess Hilarious]

So you get some of your favorite artists out there. Right.

[Kier Gaines]

But then my original music is sprinkled

[Jess Hilarious]

throughout the playlist as well.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I love that. I love that. Oh, my God. And then jazz lounge. I see. So you're a big jazz fan.

[Kier Gaines]

Yes, I studied vocal jazz in college.

[Jess Hilarious]

And this one reminds me, it's like

[Kier Gaines]

an old to my childhood growing up,

[Jess Hilarious]

my mother was a singer.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And so you know those scents from like, when you were younger?

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Kier Gaines]

Nostalgic. It's very nostalgic.

[Jess Hilarious]

This is mom's favorite camp.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I hate mom. Cause I look, I'm smelling it. I'm like, this gives me like Anita Baker on a Sunday.

[Caller / Guest]

Yes.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You know what I mean? Playing the music, setting the mood. Yes, the mood, the scents, the sound.

[Kier Gaines]

Absolutely.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Congratulations.

[Jess Hilarious]

Thank you.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Of course. It's nice to meet you.

[Kier Gaines]

You too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Thank you so much.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Shout out to Shopify for helping make that possible. Turning ideas into businesses and businesses into something that can actually last.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's time for front Page News with Mimi Brown. Oh, I forgot. I gotta do this.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yes, y', all. You do not care at all. Just do the sports real quick.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Cleveland Cavaliers beat the Detroit pistons last night. 117, 113. Okay, Cleveland is up three, two in that series. Salute to everybody that listens to the Breakfast Club in Cleveland, Ohio, and in Detroit on wjlb.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Ooh.

[Jess Hilarious]

Hurry.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, Mimi Brown, what we got?

[Mimi Brown]

All right. Good morning, everyone. How y' all doing?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Good morning.

[Jess Hilarious]

Good morning, Mimi.

[Mimi Brown]

Good morning. Okay, so we start this hour with growing concerns that immigration fears could impact the attendance and tourism of the FIFA World cup here in the United States. It's giving super bowl vibes. So this is a conversation is picking up fast because the tournament is now less than a month away. Homeland Security officials, they say ICE agents could be present around some of the cup stadiums as part of a broader security operation during the games. But here's the part that's getting a lot of attention this morning. The government is not saying that ICE agents can't make immigration arrests outside or near the World cup stadiums. Let's listen to Homeland Security Secretary Mark Wayne Mullen for more.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Going to be enforcing mass immigration, but we're there to enforce the law.

[Mimi Brown]

Find a criminal, you will arrest them.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But the mission at the World cup

[Mimi Brown]

is not immigration enforcement.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We're not there. Well, ICE always says immigration enforcement, we're always going to do that, but we're not there for solely that purpose. We're there to do our job. As I said, we're not there to go round up mass individuals. But we are always looking for the worst of the worst. We're going to continue to do that. But the ICE is footprint is much bigger than that. As I said, it's immigration custom enforcement. Do they really think some of the most dangerous criminals the worst of the worst, as he says? Do they really think that they're going to show up to the FIFA World Cup? If I'm the worst of the worst of the criminal, I'm gonna go to the FIFA World Cup. I know they gonna be out there looking for me.

[Lauren LaRosa]

That's what I'm just go celebrate freedom for the time you have it.

[Mimi Brown]

It makes no sense, really, when you think about it. And immigrant and immigrant rights advocates, they say that the presence of ICE is just going to discourage people and families and international visitors from attending altogether, especially after the Trump administration, you know, their aggressive immigration crackdown over the last year. But all of this is coming as host cities. They're already, you know, saying that they're not Getting those hotel bookings. They're not getting the flights that they thought that they were going to get. And they think it's all tied to immigration enforcement and the international tension. So people might not be there anyway.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It also could be tied to the economy. People may not have the extra money to go to the FIFA World Cup.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, yeah. Very expensive, especially in New York. You know, they what Tripling gonna be crazy.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[Jess Hilarious]

Tells.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I just put money on my easy pass, like last week. Today it said low balance. I'm like, wow, Normally that amount of money lasts me almost a whole month.

[Jess Hilarious]

Oh, hell no. Tolls are going up steadily, steadily going up. But in, in the FIFA World cup, it's gonna be even crazier for people to get to work. All of that. People just might have to call off work the whole week.

[Lauren LaRosa]

This is what my grandma used to tell me about all the time. She'd be like, times are going to change. Make sure you save some money. Rainy day.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, God bless the day. My grandma was saying that in the 80s 90s too. She was saying this. It's the worst I've ever seen it.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yes, it's always the worst at the time that you're in it.

[Lauren LaRosa]

That and she'd be like, it's the end of times, baby. Get ready.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

God ain't thinking about us.

[Jess Hilarious]

Always say, God ain't even coming back.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

If it was Jesus, would you come back for what?

[Kier Gaines]

Yes.

[Lauren LaRosa]

1:00pm at 1:00am Jesus is ignoring us. All right, y'.

[Caller / Guest]

All.

[Mimi Brown]

Well, speaking of money, if you had Xfinity or Comcast Internet service over the last few years, you may be eligible to get some money back from a settlement tied to a data breach. So Comcast has agreed to pay $117.5 million settlement after hackers gained access to your personal information belonging to millions of Xfinity customers. So the lawsuit accuses Comcast of failing to protect your customer data. Now, Comcast, of course, they are denying any wrongdoing. But and here's the thing that you need to remember or the thing that I want to make sure that I stress, not every Comcast customer is going to qualify. And this is only going to work for people who received a data breach notification from Comcast back in December of 2023 saying that their information may have been exposed. And when I say sensitive information, I mean usernames, passwords, contact info, birth dates, last four of your social. But if you qualify, you may be able to get reimbursed for things like fraud related expenses, identity theft costs, and time spent trying to get all that stuff together. And some people can receive a check up to $10,000. Damn document losses connected to the hack.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yes, definitely had all of them services exactly like the last 10 years now.

[Mimi Brown]

So also if you don't have receipts, there is a smaller flat payment option and that's about $50.

[Jess Hilarious]

So what?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what most people gonna get by the way.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah. Cause don't nobody keep receipts. Especially not no damn black people. What is happening?

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah, but. And the deadline to to file this claim is August 14th. So you guys will want to get on.

[Jess Hilarious]

Let me get somebody to make some receipts.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, that's why it's good when, when you get your receipts emailed to you.

[Mimi Brown]

Oh, because then you can just search in your phone. It's already there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right.

[Mimi Brown]

So just something to note, you guys. And lastly, Lauren ask you, did you notice something in your Instagram yesterday?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes, I did. And I don't like that feature.

[Mimi Brown]

I hate it.

[Jess Hilarious]

What is it?

[Lauren LaRosa]

It's called Instance or something, right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, that's the one that make you look bald.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Shut up. If we talk about what made you go bald, we would be here all day. The fact that he had to let go of his hair in his 20s is crazy.

[Jess Hilarious]

What is it? What is it?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Go ahead.

[Mimi Brown]

No, so. So it's a new feature. Instagram just rolled it out. It's called Instance, like you were saying. And it lets users send like unedited photos directly to your friends. Let's listen to the Instagram CEO really quick explain.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How does it work? Well, you go to the DM tab and this little pile of these photos

[Kier Gaines]

in the bottom right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And if you tap on that, you can actually see Instance from your friends and also send a photo to your friends. Once people see that photo, it disappears and they can't screenshot it. What's that? Like Snapchat?

[Mimi Brown]

That's exactly what people are saying, Snapchat.

[Lauren LaRosa]

But it's so confusing.

[Mimi Brown]

I feel like an old lady trying to figure out like where these photos were coming from.

[Jess Hilarious]

Exactly is so stupid.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Setup is weird. It's just we didn't need it because you can already send stuff on Instagram dm. Cuz it's supposed to be like it disappears right away. So it can be like invisible, which is sneaky to me. But you can already do invisible sins on Instagram through the dm. So it's like why add this extra photo feature?

[Jess Hilarious]

And. But I don't get it cuz I. When I opened up my dms, it was like a Pile of white women. Like, it wasn't even like, friends that I. That's why I'm like, you can barely

[Lauren LaRosa]

follow anybody just so. They probably just automated some people too.

[Jess Hilarious]

Okay. I'm like, yo, why? It's just like a stack of them. Like, I was like, damn.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, I don't. I don't really care for the feature. I don't see the benefit.

[Mimi Brown]

That's what a lot of people are saying online this morning, that nobody asked for this.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So, you know, but people felt like that about threads in the beginning and now. Threads.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yo, people be on. My father loves threads.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Another version of Reddit.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, but I don't like it because I don't care about y' all opinions like that. That's why I don't be on Twitter. So I don't want. I don't want to see what y' all got. I don't care about all them words.

[Lauren LaRosa]

There's N Word Twitter, then there's N word Threads. A little bit above there, a little bit LinkedIn, a little bit above there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I got my Instagram filtered exactly the way I want it. I don't want to see what y' all thinking on threads. I don't like it. I don't like it.

[Lauren LaRosa]

They gonna have some threads about. Okay.

[Mimi Brown]

All right, y'.

[Caller / Guest]

All.

[Mimi Brown]

Well, that is your front page news. I'm Mimi Brown. Follow me at Mimi Brown tv and make sure to download and subscribe to my new podcast, Front page for all your daily news news source.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Absolutely. And coming up, man, my man Kiera Gaines is coming. He has a podcast called Learn the Hard Way and he has a book that is available for pre order now called it all starts when you do how to do the real work of self healing. I like Kier's story because he started off on social media. He went viral like eight or nine years ago because of a video with his daughter. But then he, you know, decided to become a licensed therapist. So we'll be talking to Kiera Games when we come back. It's the Breakfast Club. Yep. It's the world's most dangerous morning show. The Breakfast Club. Charlamagne. The God, DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Envying Jess on here. But Lauren LaRosa is. We got a special guest in the building, man. I have been watching this brother's work for a long time. He's got a new podcast called Learn the Hard Way. It's Keir Games.

[Kier Gaines]

Yes, sir. You pronounced it perfectly.

[Jess Hilarious]

Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How are you, my brother?

[Caller / Guest]

I'm good.

[Kier Gaines]

How y' all doing, man?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Bless Black and highly favored man.

[Kier Gaines]

I know that's right, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Now, if you don't know who Kier is, he's a mental health advocate, and he is a licensed therapist. Yeah, I feel like it's very important to say that nowadays.

[Kier Gaines]

I feel like that's a hot topic at the moment. I would say so.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, I wanted to add, we're in an era where social media has turned a lot of people into mental health influence.

[Kier Gaines]

For sure.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How important is licensing when somebody is giving, you know, relationship or trauma advice to millions of people?

[Kier Gaines]

You know, I personally find it important to be licensed for myself. It's important because it makes sure that. It makes sure that I'm ethically sound, make sure that people are safe around me, make sure that I'm continuing all my education credits, make sure I'm getting all the training. Because it's one thing, you know, we got a lot of therapeutic language being slang about people calling you gaslighter and narcissists, and we got all the words, but people don't really know what happens next in terms of healing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Healing. Yeah. Everybody talking about problems with no solutions.

[Kier Gaines]

No solutions. We just spending a problem. We're talking about it why, but not necessarily deeply. So for me to be licensed, it makes sure that if somebody walks in the room and says, hey, man, man, you know, I feel like I'm gonna jump off the top of the building tonight. What you gonna do next? What's your next move? What's your next move? A man comes in and says, man, I'm feeling like hurting my wife. What you gonna do? What's your next move? All that psycho babble doesn't help when you got to be in a room with somebody and feel your way around that person. Have quality training to back that up. So when we got all the words, but we don't got any wisdom, that's like having a map with no way points and no words on it.

[Caller / Guest]

You.

[Kier Gaines]

You'll know that things are there, but you have no idea where you are, where to go.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Do audiences even understand the difference between a licensed therapist, a life coach, a relationship expert, or a motivational speaker anymore? Has social media blurred all of those?

[Kier Gaines]

I don't think so. Social media is not a place for dynamic nuance. So not only do people not know, I honestly don't think that people care. And that's one of the things that I really hone in on when I talk on my platforms. Because therapy, being a licensed clinician is a specific thing, and it's a specific designation by the State that says that you passed all your exams and you're doing all these things you need to do to make sure that you're upholding all the ethical principles of the craft. And that's. That's amazing. But when people are hurting, sometimes they just want to hear from somebody. But you got to hear from somebody qualified and trained and steeped in the knowledge to know not just what everything is and what sounds good, but what is the best practice to help move you forward in life.

[Caller / Guest]

I was.

[Lauren LaRosa]

When we were getting ready for. Did you see our interview with Dr. Cheyenne Bryant?

[Kier Gaines]

I saw clips.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Okay. So when we were getting ready for that interview, I called one of my friends. Her name is Dr. Shonda Reynolds. And. And she was saying that to me because I was mentioning patient.

[Kier Gaines]

Dr. Shonda.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes, that's my sister. Like, we went to high school together, like, all of that. But, yeah, she was. She helped me prep for that interview because there was so many different things that you have to go through.

[Kier Gaines]

It's very nuanced.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It's very. It is. Right. But we were having a conversation about, like, there are studies about that EPPP test that it skews differently to black people that are trying to be licensed than others. And that's why some people don't go for certain licenses or whatever, which is a different conversation. Dr. Shy and Bryant. But. But she was talking about just how it's. The conversation we're having with Dr. Cheyenne Bryant takes away from the conversation we should be having about the real issues that some people have getting licensed. And I know you're licensed as a therapist, so I don't know if you have anything that you've experienced when you were going through your process.

[Kier Gaines]

Not anything to that extent, but licensure is incredibly challenging to get through. I don't think people understand how much schooling, how many. How many hours of practicum and how many hours of internship you have to undergo. And then the test itself is difficult, and then the licensing board. And then you have to sit for a certain number of direct and indirect hours, which means a therapist who is more experienced than you sits in with you every week, and you talk about your sessions, what went well, what didn't go well. And it could be challenging for a number of reasons, because sometimes you can only. You rise to the level of your help. If you don't have incredible supervision, it's gonna dictate how thorough and how effective you are as a therapist in the long run. But even with Dr. Shonda, she's psychologist. Psychologist is different than A licensed therapist. Psychologist is a scientist. Licensed therapist is a practitioner. There are therapists who aren't psychologists, and they're psychologists who aren't therapists. It's incredibly nuanced and deep. So, yeah, I think this conversation is important that we're having about licensure and making sure that ethical guidelines are held intact. But there are so many other conversations that happen on the inside that the public doesn't even know about as far like what? Like how a lot of therapeutic modalities are not really normed on black people.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Talk about that a bit. Dr. Shonda talks about that.

[Kier Gaines]

Oh, talk about it. Yeah. They're not normed on black people. A lot of modalities are steeped in psychology, and they take a group of people who they study, and the people who they're studying weren't black. And there's this thing. Man. Man. There's this thing in therapy that happens when people don't have cultural competency.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right.

[Kier Gaines]

And that means, like, you can come into the room and you can see a black man, and then you can see, like, a South Pacific woman, and you'll say, oh, depression is depression. I'm gonna treat these people the same way. You might not honor the fact that where she's from, the hierarchy in the family looks different. So she may have a different reverence for her family. That might be. That might make it harder for her to say, nah, dad, nah, mom, I'm gonna do my own thing. I'm gonna move in my own direction. Being culturally competent is treating her knowing. Having that in mind, knowing how her culture works and how it affects the way she moves through the world. You may see a black man and think, oh, you know, you're in therapy. I need you to talk about all your problems. Ignoring the fact that that black man has a lived experience where the medical system has not treated his ancestors very well, he walks in therapy skeptical, rightfully so. So cultural competency doesn't say, oh, man, you got these problems. You need to come into therapy and you need to talk to me because you need to be better. Cultural competency meets him. Where is. Ah, I can see why you're skeptical. Let's take the first three sessions and get to know each other a little bit. Matter of fact, I'm gonna tell you a little bit more about myself. Because what we learn, what black therapists have learned, is we get taught. When you're in a session with somebody, you don't do no self disclosure. It's not about self disclosure. You're not supposed to talk about yourself, which is right to a degree. But when you're in a room with black and brown people, especially black and brown men, you want to expect him to give all that up and you don't say anything about yourself. That's not gonna work. The robotic cut off wall of a therapist is a motif that don't work for black men, don't work for black people. And if you don't have cultural competency, you would not know that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, it's so interesting. The first time I ever started doing therapy, I specifically said I didn't want somebody culturally competent. I wanted somebody that was. Had no idea about our experiences, what we go through, what I may be going through, because I just wanted to, to tell them what I was dealing with. And I just wanted them to come from like a perspective of no bias, blank slate. Just a blank slate. Right. So it's funny you said, what do you say, South Pacific? Because I was looking for an Asian woman.

[Kier Gaines]

Specifically.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Specifically.

[Kier Gaines]

That's very specific. Why Asian woman?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because I just was trying to find like somebody that I felt like, didn't know our experience at all. In no way, shape or form. Didn't find one. Just want you to know that.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So where'd you end up? Like what type of.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I ended up with a, a white woman. And I was with her for a couple of years and she was good. But I, but I do feel like what really, really got me to that next level was a culturally competent black man.

[Kier Gaines]

Yeah. And it depends. A question that floats about a lot is do black people need black therapists? And I always say it depends. It's not so much about the lived experience of the therapist, it's about the aptitude of the therapist, number one, how comfortable you are with them. You know, the most effective therapist I ever had, she was a 65 year old white woman. We had nothing in common, nothing in common. But the way that she moved in that space, it just so happened to bounce with the way that I understand, the way that I absorb information, the way that I take instruction. So for me, her, her race and her gender wasn't as important in order for me to feel comfortable. But that ain't everybody's story. And if you do need somebody that looks like you to be comfortable, then yeah, that's absolutely fine. It's more so. So the effectiveness of the therapist is gonna be contingent probably a little bit more on what you find acceptable to share all your information with, where you feel nice and comfy in the session versus some standard Rule of law that just applies across the board for a lot of people.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It's like, even if you know you need to do something, it's like figuring out who is the person. Like, where do you go? How do you even start? Like, I talk to people all the time about, like, even finding therapists. It's like you trying people out. It's like random recommendations.

[Kier Gaines]

It's like data.

[Caller / Guest]

There it is.

[Lauren LaRosa]

But it gets to a point sometimes where it shut up the conversation. Yeah, no, no, no.

[Kier Gaines]

I ain't going dip in your business. It's all right, I got you.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I am focused and I am.

[Kier Gaines]

Yeah, it's cool.

[Lauren LaRosa]

The conversation about figuring out a therapist, it can be kind of not.

[Jess Hilarious]

Not.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It doesn't scare you, but it's just. It's such a task trying to find the right fit. That definitely be intimidating sometimes, even though you know you need to do it for sure and it. So it's not as easy for some people.

[Kier Gaines]

No. And I hate when we frame it as an easy thing to do. Just all you need to do is find the right therapist. It's just like data. Finding a therapist is different than finding a doctor because I don't care about my doctor's bedside manner. Sometimes if you're an effective doctor that can spot something that I need to see, or you give me all my panels and all my results, you know, I will take the how good you are at what I need you to do above your bedside, man. And your attitude. It don't work like that with therapist. If you throw me off with your attitude, it ain't gonna work. If you say the wrong thing at the wrong time, it ain't gonna work. And from this angle, which I completely understand and endorse, I fired many a therapist before because it just. It wasn't a good fit. It didn't feel right. But as a therapist, you have a very small margin of error sometimes. And if you don't, sometimes I can't treat you until I know who you are. I take the first couple sessions just getting to know you, who your mama,

[Charlamagne Tha God]

how she treats you.

[Kier Gaines]

What did love look like in your house? What are your relations like? Yeah, the romantic ones. Okay, now the non romantic ones. Who are your friends? How do you contextualize and view friendship? How do you see the world? Have you been victimized? How do you see being a victim? Is this something that happened to you? Or is it something that you use and wear as a badge of honor? Or is it something in the middle? How can I do anything for you? If I don't know you. And that's why we really started a podcast, learn the hard way. Because talking to a therapist is hard. I'll admit it. I'll admit it. Even as a therapist, talking to a therapist can be hard and intimidating, but listening to a conversation on a podcast is not.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Kier Gaines]

And while I'm not your therapist, I can stand in the gap. I'm a therapist. I can still give you things to think about, still help widen your aperture on how you see yourself and how you see your place in the world, and just give you something to chew on that's not just going to make you a different person, but try to make you a. About a person.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I want to ask you because I love what you said about, you know, finding a therapist is like dating, right?

[Kier Gaines]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm not going to talk about the conversation I just heard in the room,

[Kier Gaines]

but if you want to talk about it real bad.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

If you had three and four therapists.

[Kier Gaines]

Three and four therapy in the past.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Caller / Guest]

Okay.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You trying them all out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Can you see 3 and 4 at one time? And should you label them, like, main, eater, husband? You know what I mean? You know what I'm saying?

[Kier Gaines]

Eater is egregious.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Egregious.

[Lauren LaRosa]

That's what I position more therapeutic terms.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Lord.

[Kier Gaines]

Wait.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, moving on.

[Kier Gaines]

Okay, okay.

[Lauren LaRosa]

When you were figuring out your therapist, right, and you had like, multiple, were you going to multiple at a time or one at a time? Because you had to. It was. You got to pay for all this.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You said, treat it like dating.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Be quiet.

[Kier Gaines]

1. So treat it like dating. To an extent. Depending on how you date, I would say it was one at a time just because I wanted to give them all a fair shot to see how they would work for you.

[Lauren LaRosa]

But you were seeking your therapist intentionally. You weren't just going through a bunch of therapists because somebody told you the thing that they do.

[Kier Gaines]

Okay, what. What conversation are we having?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Shut up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What are we talking about?

[Kier Gaines]

No, I wasn't running through therapist.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He wasn't in the therapist out. Okay.

[Kier Gaines]

Nah, nah, nah. I wasn't. I wasn't running through therapist with reckless abandon.

[Lauren LaRosa]

How did you know that? Like, if a therapist did something that turns you off, did you like, like, be like, yo, I'm out.

[Kier Gaines]

So before I was a therapist, Yes. I would ghost therapist all the time because it's uncomfortable to tell someone. There's a power dynamic that exists in the room when you're a therapist, and it's uncomfortable to tell somebody, like, hey, I don't like the way you're doing this, can we change it? People don't even do that with their partner sometimes, you know, so before I was a therapist, yeah, I probably just ghost them. A lot of therapists, I had to get weird when they know I'm a therapist or, no, I'm a person on social media. A lot of therapists get weird with black men. And I know that's not. It's not super in style and vogue to say, but it's true. You know, they have a very. From my experience, have a very low perception of black men. So when I walk in and, you know, I'm married and I got a career and I got my kids going and everything, they like, we so proud of you, black man. I'm like, hey, stop clapping for me and listen to me. I still need help. You're not listening. So there was that piece, but now that I am a therapist, I will stop them and say, hey, I don't feel like this is as effective as I needed to be. Can we talk about it? Because even my clients, we have sessions where we talk about our relationship. Check in. What are we. You know, what we doing right now, y'?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It really is like dating.

[Kier Gaines]

It's very much like.

[Jess Hilarious]

It's such.

[Kier Gaines]

It's such a personal relationship. Because I know all your business, and I hold it right here. It doesn't leave anywhere. I know your mama. I know your relationship with your mama. I know why you do the things you do. There are things you told me that you have never even said I out loud by yourself. So we take those things, and we don't judge you about them. Not at all. We don't judge you about them.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's why I don't think you should have multiple at one time. You know, it's funny.

[Kier Gaines]

It depends. It depends on what kind of therapist it is.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It also depends on where you are in your life, too. Like what you're dealing with, with life,

[Charlamagne Tha God]

sharing so much of yourself.

[Kier Gaines]

Well, with some people, that's not an issue. I would say this. I have two types of therapists. So I have a talk therapist, and I have a semantic therapy therapist. And my somatic therapist is more so about movement in the body and where you hold your trauma in your body. She told me something dope. She says, yeah. She said, because I lost my mom when I was 18.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Sorry.

[Kier Gaines]

And thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. And sometimes there's an absence that I feel that I can't put my finger on. And she says, where do you feel your pain? In your body. And I said, I feel it in my chest. And she says, whenever you feel it, gently rub your chest because that's a part of your body that's longing for gentle touch that it won't get anywhere else. I was like, damn, you good.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I didn't even know that that was a type of therapy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, oh, yeah.

[Kier Gaines]

Not everything can be solved with talk therapy.

[Jess Hilarious]

You.

[Kier Gaines]

You gotta hit. You gotta hit that problem from all angles sometimes.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm gonna be honest, and, I mean,

[Charlamagne Tha God]

you've been lying the whole time.

[Lauren LaRosa]

No, I haven't. I'm about to say something that's, like, very honest is what I'm saying. I have been lying the whole time.

[Kier Gaines]

Okay, let's go.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So, like, I have therapist friends, like Shonda. Dr. Shonda. Right. Patient Dr. Shonda. But because she's my friend, I don't really like. Like, there's kind of like a boundary separation, but we still talk through things like, boundary.

[Kier Gaines]

Like, she's not trying to over therapize you.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes. Like, she can, because, like, she's known me for almost, like, my whole life, but, like, sitting and really having this conversation with you and knowing her and knowing that she's an influencer in the space. You're an influencer in the space. It kind of makes me sad for y' all a little bit because there's so many other people that are in this space that with platforms that they're not giving it up. Like, y' all giving it up, and people really need this stuff. Like, I'm sitting here and I'm like, I didn't even know that that was a thing. And you've probably talked about this online Tick tock somewhere. But, like, we get clouded with so much other stuff that we click because of what the algorithm is or how many views or whatever and it's pushed to you. It has to be tough in that space for y'. All, like, because I'm sitting here like, dang, I feel bad that y' all got so much noise because people need to hear this stuff.

[Kier Gaines]

They do. And it's hard to get this out in short form content. A lot of therapists been getting smoked lately online because they're attempting to unpack very complicated topics and short form content. Short form content is meant to be punchy. And even I've been. Man, I post a lot of my videos are just me in the kitchen talking about concepts that people thought about but maybe have not been able to put words to. And long form content has really helped me. Like, the pod. I Just wrote my debut book. It all starts when you do. And in the book, it's a collection of all these things I do in therapy and all these ways I move people toward healing. And I can't express that in short form. It's just not enough time. There's not enough bandwidth online for people to sit, for me to unpack something that's going to take four minutes. And if I take a four minute explanation and I distill it down into 25 seconds, I'm going to lose a lot of the context. It's not going to be as helpful, it's not going to be as useful of a tool for you to wield around. So yeah, I mean you. Right. But everybody don't do it the same.

[Lauren LaRosa]

But how do you protect. And this is not a shot at Dr. Shine, Brian but I've been seeing a lot of, of people, black therapists, talk about the danger in the way that we're having a conversation because of some of the pushback she's getting. How do you protect the people you love, like us, your community, from those dangers that people are pointing at? If that's not possible?

[Kier Gaines]

When they say dangerous, what do they mean specifically?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I swear to God, I was gonna ask that same question. I want to know exactly what the danger is that people think. Dr. Cheyenne Bryant so here's what I

[Lauren LaRosa]

see people pointing out. This is not my own personal thoughts or feelings. So I see people pointing out the fact that it's dangerous. When she talks about licensing and being able to practice without being licensed because of the ethics thing, the whole conversation about the amount of schooling that she has or does not have, the, even the dissertation conversation, I'm thinking, okay, people just want to see that because it's proof of something. And then I saw a breakdown of a woman who's like, no, because of the hours of research and whatever, whatever it goes into here is what she can lean on when her own personal experience comes into play. But also just when it comes to her being therapist or psychiatrist, there's a difference that people are now confusing because they are alleging that she was going by one title and then changed that. Those are all the things that I'm seeing people point out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What long question LaRosa is trying to say shut up. Can somebody give genuinely helpful emotional advice without being licensed? Or does lack of licensing automatically create danger?

[Kier Gaines]

I think anybody can talk about their own experiences. I think anybody can talk about their own trauma. I think that you can preach from the lens of what you know and what you've experienced now when you begin to get advice to people and people are beginning to take that advice, apply it to their own lives, and start to move throughout their communities and families. There is a duty to, one, know what you're talking about. And two, represent yourself appropriately. When before I had my full license, I had my provisional. And when you got your provisional, it just means that you can't practice by yourself. You got to have a. A big therapist look over everything you do. Sometimes sit in your sessions and you gotta tell people in the beginning of the session, like, hey, I have a provisional license and I'm under the supervision of Dr. Whoever. Just to let you know.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It happens in the hospital sometimes.

[Kier Gaines]

Yeah, they have to let you know. You have to represent yourself appropriately. So I think the danger comes in where people. One, misrepresenting themselves, not saying that's what she's doing. I think the story is just starting. I think this is about to be. More will understand can be uncovered as time goes on. But I think you have a duty to, one, represent yourself appropriately, and two, like, speak to what you know about. There's sometimes people come in my sessions and they have specific conditions or experiences. It's not in my therapeutic wheelhouse. I don't know about that, but I know a good therapist that does, and I'll refer you out.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Oh, so you turn them away?

[Kier Gaines]

Oh, well, it's not turning them away. It's referring them to a therapist that can better help them. Yeah, yeah.

[DJ Envy]

If you.

[Kier Gaines]

You go to a oncologist who's a cancer doctor and you ask him about the bone spurs in your feet, he gonna look at you like, hey, I don't know a lot about that. That's not within my professional realm of expertise. Let me send you to somebody who is more knowledgeable about that thing.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So is there a. In your world, right, A therapist and psychologist. Are we not happy then that to a certain extent that Dr. Cheyenne is having these conversations? Because it's making everybody learn within it. So why are people so upset?

[Kier Gaines]

I think there's a value in learning about a process. I think that people who are licensed are upset because being a therapist is already tough. And it's already. It's a field that's very much guided. I know I keep saying ethics, but it's guided by very strict ethics of what you can and can't do, what you got the duty to report. Like, they can call you up to court and take all of your notes, and it can be used as evidence against somebody or evidence for somebody. Somebody so it's really important that you maintain the fidelity of the field. And I think when the fidelity of the field appears to be compromised, people speak out like black folk are a really vulnerable population, especially right now. And if you are, again, not saying this is what she's doing, but if you are a person who appears to be practicing and maybe not being completely clear about how it is you came about, your licenses or how you came about, however you. You know, you signify yourself, whether it be doctor, whether you be a psychologist, psychiatrist, whatever, there's a danger in giving people misinformation, or you can cause harm within a session. It's so easy. Imagine some. Imagine a woman who is postpartum, and instead of knowing how to treat a woman who is postpartum and knowing how she identifies racially, ethnically, religiously, and how those things tie back into who she is and what her family structure looks like, and you having the outermost shell of good training to know how to handle that situation, you could tell her something that could be harmful, especially if you're coming from your own experience, which is different than hers. Now, you're not just guiding somebody through a therapeutic journey. You projecting.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

At what point does, I guess, inspirational content become unethical if audiences mistake it for therapy?

[Kier Gaines]

I think when you don't make it clear that it's not therapy, in. In my podcast, in the very beginning, I said, hey, y', all, I'm a therapist, but I'm not your therapist. We cool. And I love being here for y', all, and I'll stand in the gap seven days a week, but I'm not your therapist. And if you are having trouble with these things, you need to seek the help of a license and qualify professional. You know, when you start telling people what to do and they start taking your advice, I think you. You take on some responsibility for what you say. And we live in an attention economy. It's like, hey, look at me. I'm gonna say the most outrageous thing or the thing that feels most resonant in order for people to come in and vibrate with me. Hey, come look at me. Hey, you know, be a part of my audience. I don't know what that culminates into, but I think it validates a lot of people's humanity to be able to have folks comment and respond and, you know, give them these joints. Damn, Lauren, one more time, middle finger. All right. Give them these. It feels good, but it's not necessarily hopeful. To folks.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what scares me? Therapists creating content. Because I Don't want to say becoming creators, because I don't think that they're becoming creators. I think they're creating content because they're intentionally trying to help people. But I think some therapists unintentionally become emotionally dependent on their audience.

[Kier Gaines]

I can see how that can happen. I mean, therapists. I tell people all the time, bro, it's just a job. It is just a job that I'm qualified to do. It's no different than any job. And being a therapist and having all this therapeutic knowledge, and we talk about this on the pod, it does not exonerate me from the human experience. I gotta. I got a wife and two kids. You don't think I get mad at my kids? You don't think I worry? You know, you don't think I got money concerns? I mean, Charlemagne doesn't have money concerns, but you don't think crazy. Don't. Charlemagne, we don't have to do this. I ain't gonna look at you. Yeah, I' ma just. I'm gonna just maintain eye contact with Lord. That was, like, gonna start itching.

[Lauren LaRosa]

If I look that way, like, halfway through the year, imagine what the rest of his year look like.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm sure God is good.

[Kier Gaines]

Yeah. I'm happy for you, brother. Legitimately. But even. Even there, like, no matter what your financial situation is, it doesn't mean that you don't have the right to be upset or dissatisfied with parts of your life. You can still have a bad day. Being a billionaire like, you are much.

[Jess Hilarious]

Hey, hey, we ain't got to do that.

[Kier Gaines]

But, yeah, it's. I still feel the full range of human emotions and still have to navigate it. So, yeah, therapists are just people and. And creators no different than anyone else. Or therapists who are creators are no different than anyone else. I want to feel good. I want to feel validated. I want to feel like people think I'm smart and capable.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[Kier Gaines]

I just think the way you go about that needs to be. Be very intentional so that you don't make a fool of yourself, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Kid, hope to have you at the Mental Wealth Expo this year, man.

[Kier Gaines]

Invite me, dog.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Me and Dev, we definitely had you. Top of the list, man. Glad that you was in town this week and we could have you on the show. You're actually the perfect guest to have this week. All the conversation that's happening with social media and content creators and licensed therapists like you, you are the embodiment of that. You started off as a content creator who became a licensed therapist.

[Kier Gaines]

Yeah, man, it's, you know, all in God's time. How about that? It all works out all right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's Kia Gaines. It's the Breakfast Club. Thank you for coming, brother.

[DJ Envy]

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[Lauren LaRosa]

Okay, so quick behind the scenes moment about my business because people always ask me like how do I actually run everything? So Shopify is literally the platform where I turned this tiny idea into a business. Before this I was really just like popping up at any in person event, any vending opportunity I could, which I still do. But I wasn't really as focused online. I, I, I was like, you know the websites are going to be too much to build out. I'm not like a super techie person, even though I can make things cute. And I didn't want to put up a website that would run my customers away. I wanted it to be efficient, to be easy. And Shopify helped me build brown girlgrinding.com out. Once I switched to Shopify, it finally clicked like, okay, I can actually do this. It's not about it being tough. It's about using the right platform to make it easy. Shopify takes all of the guesswork out. I build my own store, I manage my community, own my own customer relationships. Plus, this is my favorite thing. Shopify gets my products everywhere. I'm able to link stuff through Google, YouTube, TikTok, Shop the Shop app, even Chat, GPT and Instagram, which is very important for me. And Shopify's AI co founder, sidekick, game changer, let me tell y', all, right? So it's helped me not only optimize my site, it helps me look at my sales trends, it updates my product skills, all the stuff I'm absolutely not an expert in, but it's like having a genius business partner that never sleeps. And right now, the Brongard grinding storefront front and the Black Effects storefront is busy and Shopify is handling all of the heavy lifting. I love that for us. I am pumped, like so pumped that Shopify is going to show up at the Black Effect Podcast Festival this year in a big way. And I will be there preaching this platform to all of the small black owned businesses that partner with us. So if you've been sitting on an idea or if you're ready to scale, which you've already started, this is your sign. Go to shopify.com Ben if I can do it, you can do it too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Amazon Health AI presents painful thoughts.

[Mimi Brown]

Why did I search the Internet for answers to my cold sore problem? Now I'm stuck down a rabbit hole filled with images of alarmingly graphic sores

[Lauren LaRosa]

in various stages of ooze.

[Mimi Brown]

I can clear my search history, but I can never unsee that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Don't go down the rabbit hole.

[Kier Gaines]

Amazon Health AI gets you the right care care fast.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Healthcare just got less painful having me. Now let's get into the latest with Lauren.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, I'm not dumbing myself down. I'm being myself. I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything and everything. Little brown girls look at you and go, I want to be like you. Take me through that. Take me through that.

[Kier Gaines]

The latest with Lauren

[Charlamagne Tha God]

on the Breakfast Club. LL Cool B. Talk to me.

[Lauren LaRosa]

All right, guys, so we had little TJ here yesterday. He's promoting his album, they just not you. And he, he got into some details about his. His drama with Offset, which Offset is a set about. Let's take a listen to what Lil TJ said.

[Kier Gaines]

What I thought the world was going to be like, oh, set you a bum ass. I got rappers, dude.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The whole industry is in my dm. You see how come a couple came

[Kier Gaines]

out, everybody in my DM laughing, haha.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Offset owe me bread too.

[Kier Gaines]

The whole world is in my dm.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Offset owe me bread, la la la for me. So I'm like, bro, I'm over here ask you for my bread. You keep texting me angry text about getting in blood. I'm like, you wild and broski.

[Kier Gaines]

So I'm thinking it's funny.

[Jess Hilarious]

Like it Offsets a bum.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He over here taking people bread running off everybody. I'll get it back in place.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm like, damn, I thought y' all

[Charlamagne Tha God]

was gonna film me for me. How much ow you?

[Jess Hilarious]

It was 10k. It was nothing, bro. I threw in the strip club whenever I want. All right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But it's not enough for us for me to hate you, bro. I just feel like you just max disrespecting me. But kudos to you, bro. Asking a lady like, auntie, Auntie even gives you cat.

[Kier Gaines]

He's calling everybody's phone.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nobody giving him no bread. He asking the ladies like regular people. Like, I don't. They look like they work nine to five jobs.

[Kier Gaines]

Like not no rich people. And he getting them told, I'mma cash

[Charlamagne Tha God]

app you in the morning. I'm like, you fake tweaking game. I don't know what make me jump in that algorithm. Give it as a five. The next five. I probably hit him back for it for mad long. Lil TJ also said him and Offset can hug it out. And there's no beef though.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, he did say that. But he said all that? Yeah, he did say that.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And he's telling the story. Story. He's still, you know, rehashing the story.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Well, Offset was upset. Offset commented on the Breakfast Club's Instagram and he said, cap with the cap emoji. Y' all think stuff is funny until somebody die.

[Jess Hilarious]

And then I. I'm thinking about all the cops. That was like, okay, thanks for the crime, you know, because when it happens, yeah, we, we see this comment from you. People be reacting in their feelings and they don't understand that they. They're being watched. Like everything that you do, people are looking. We got lawyers, feds police jamming up every day.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's all true. I didn't see that. I didn't see that on Breakfast Club page.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yes, he did. He left that comment.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Just caught the comment. But I didn't see it there anymore either. So I don't know if it was deleted.

[Jess Hilarious]

Of course he deleted it because it's like, why would you say something like that? You don't react out of your feelings, especially if you're planning to hurt someone.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Well, offset what, I mean, in this whole situation, which is a federal open case still.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Offset was shot in the case as well, too. So I, you know, maybe it triggered him to hear it be whatever.

[Jess Hilarious]

Sugar is crazy.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Sorry.

[Jess Hilarious]

Oh, shoot.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's the right word to use, though.

[Jess Hilarious]

It is, but it's crazy.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah. But I, I don't know. I, I was hoping maybe they could get to a better place. But hey, maybe that's not none of our job to do. So we move on. Yeah. So in more uplifting news, so yesterday, Chanel Jones, who is from the Today show, and we've talked about her a lot because she made the New York Times bestseller sellers list in the advice. She was number one one.

[Jess Hilarious]

Congrats.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yesterday, she announced via her Instagram that her book has been number one in that category for four weeks.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Go ahead, Chanel, drop on the clues.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Congratulations to her.

[Jess Hilarious]

So love it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't think y' all understand how much of an amazing feat that is number one in the advice category. The advice category is so hard on the New York Times bestsellers list because there's books that have been on there literally for years.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like years, like books like Atomic Habits and you know, the Four Agreements. Like, like those books stay on lists like that. So for her to be number one for four weeks, that's, that's huge. An incredible feat.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes. And she, I just was watching a segment that she did right after Mother's Day where she was talking about it's her first like Mother's Day alone after losing her husband and kind of how she dealt with the grief and all those things. So she's been taking us a longer journey on her Instagram just of like the feel good moments that she has because she talks a lot about the opposite as well too. So.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So her husband is clearly up there working. Okay. Clearly up there.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes.

[Jess Hilarious]

God bless her.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Congratulations to her. That is the latest for the hour.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, before, after the hour, we got donkey of the day. There is a, a couple, a married couple named elisa and Robert McIntosh. We need them to come to the front of the congregation. We need to have a word with them. We're talking about parenting, right? We talk about parenting and justice book come out. This is an example example of how not to parent. We'll discuss

[Caller / Guest]

a bunch of donkeys around here.

[Kier Gaines]

It's time for donkey of the day. They made me the ducky of the

[Charlamagne Tha God]

day by the things that I said. Damn Charlemagne. Some donkey. Today's just sell themselves it was you.

[Jess Hilarious]

What accountability are you taking out of

[Charlamagne Tha God]

my dunkin a day on the breakfast Club.

[Kier Gaines]

That being said, I want to start start off with this donkey right here.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, donkey Today for Thursday, May 14th goes to 46 year old Alicia Lene McIntosh and 46 year old Robert James McIntosh, both of Taylorville, Utah. Okay, they are parents who are facing charges of aggravated child abuse after they allegedly locked their 11 year old child out of their home in an effort to teach the child how to be homeless. I keep telling y' all on this radio every single day that times is hard. Okay? Economic hardship is impacting everybody. There was a YouGov survey that found 42 of Americans believe a total economic collapse is on the way. And I guess some parents are preparing their kids for the future. Okay, well that's not what happened here. What happened here was the child said they wanted to run away and the parents said oh word. Let's go to KSL.com for the report. Please, please. A man arrested last week for allegedly making his 11 year old daughter sleep in the garage to experience being homeless has now been charged with zip tying. The young girl, Robert James McIntosh, 46, of Taylorsville, was charged Monday in 3rd

[Kier Gaines]

District Court with two counts of aggravated child abuse, a third degree felony.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Both he and his wife, Alicia Line A McIntosh, 46, were arrested Friday by Taylorsville police for investigation of aggravated child abuse abuse. However, the Salt Lake County District Attorney's Office has now determined there isn't enough evidence to charge Alicia McIntosh for the child abuse she was suspected of committing. And neither parent will face charges for allegedly making their daughter sleep in the garage. Charging documents filed Monday against Robert McIntosh state that the young girl was scratching her face and causing it to bleed. So McIntosh found zip ties and zip tied her to a bed. She said McIntosh then removed the ladder from her bunk bed so she couldn't climb onto the and bed bed and she hung there unable to touch the ground for 10 to 15 minutes.

[Jess Hilarious]

Damn.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

When questioned, McIntosh told police that he zip tied his daughter one time for less than 10 minutes to stop her from scratching herself. Alicia McIntosh stated she knew McIntosh zip tied their daughter to her bed, but said it was a moment of desperation when he had been home alone with her.

[Kier Gaines]

The charges state.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, this is a lot, man, you know. The honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan, who celebrated his 93rd born day this week, dropping a clue bombs for minister. The honorable Minister Lew Radcon always says, when you see men fall, don't laugh, learn. And this is a prime example, because sometimes you have to see what happens to others when they do things. You thought about, okay, I have absolutely threatened to put my child outside, all right? I would never do it, okay? Especially now after reading this story. But I've thought about it, and sometimes we need to see examples of how stupid things actually are when you do them. Because, look, man, kids are difficult, and there is no manual to raising them. I have so much respect for my parents now that I am one. I get it. I get it. I get it. Kids will test your patience in ways that you can't even imagine. Okay? I don't even understand, you know, psychologically, how you can love something so much, but on the flip side, want to hurt them so bad when they trying you. But, Alicia and Robert, this isn't the lesson you thought it was. Okay, first. First of all, y', all, this is. You're. You're abusing your child in multiple ways. But I want to just talk about the. The homeless aspect of it. When you said you were teaching your child how to be homeless, you are not teaching your child how to be homeless. You are teaching your child how to be trauma. Traumatized. You were teaching your child how to not trust their parents. You are teaching your child how to feel unsafe and unsupported because it all starts at home. All right? I don't. It wasn't in the news report, but when they put him in the garage, this kid went to a neighbor's house to use the bathroom because his parents wouldn't let him use the bathroom. So he left the garage and went to a neighbor's house and told the neighbor he would rather. I don't even know if it was a he, but they told the neighbor they would rather live with them. Them because their parents locked them out of the house. And when the daddy picked up the child from his neighbor's house, they punished the child again, okay? Made him sleep in the garage because how dare you go to the neighbor's house telling them. Folks, our business. See, the first law of nature is self preservation. So that young child did what they had to do to survive by going to the neighbor's house. But if that child was raised off good times like we was in the 1900s, then they would have learned from watching Linnella Gore Gordon punish Penny. You don't bring nobody else into your business, okay? But you should, right? And the punishments Penny got if she dared to bring somebody else in their family business, oh, my God. Okay? If that child was watching good times, they would have known involving the neighbors was going to escalate the situation, okay? And with Alicia and Robert's track record, you know, you probably want to keep that child away from them, dare I say forever. Okay? These parents need counseling and extensive therapy, at least to dad, because I know the dad right now was plotting and planted some severe punishment for this young child. Because not only did you go to the neighbor's house to complain about them, the police came and you got him arrested. Oh, man. He planning to go get a hot iron right now. This story is just a prime example of everybody is not ready to be a parent, okay? Kids do not deserve to be in abusive relationships with their parents, okay? They didn't ask to be here, all right? Parenting is supposed to prepare kids for the world, okay? Not traumatize them for it.

[Kier Gaines]

All right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

There's a difference between discipline and cruelty and abuse, all right? If your lesson plan for your child includes, you know, them freezing in the garage, you know, with a bucket for a bathroom, or hog tying their wrist together and letting them hang pleasure places, you're not teaching responsibility, you're teaching fear, okay? And too many parents do confuse control with care. Please let Remy Ma give Alicia and Robert McIntosh the biggest hee haw.

[Lauren LaRosa]

He haw.

[Jess Hilarious]

Hee haw.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You stupid. Are you dumb?

[Jess Hilarious]

Yo? You know what? I. My initial thought was, right, because if they zip tied her, if he zip tied her, right? Like what, from keeping her from scratching her face, it honestly sounds like she was, like, possessed. That sound like some Emily Rose.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She was not possessed. She probably scratched her face because she was stressed out and. And dealing with high levels of anxiety and was terrified and traumatized in this abusive relationship. So she was scratching her face because she was harming herself? That's what that's like a self mutilation.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Poor baby.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, yeah, she wasn't possessed by nothing.

[Jess Hilarious]

All right, how old was the little girl?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

11.

[Lauren LaRosa]

My niece is 11. I was. Oh, my God.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, well, good thing he's arrested now. He's in jail now, but damn. So what that mean for the little girl? Where did she go? Cuz she can't go back into the care of her mother because they both got to be investigated.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I really don't know. I have no idea. But I feel so horrible for that young lady because there's a lot of kids out there going through that same situation.

[Caller / Guest]

Damn.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, now it's time for Just fix My Mess. I don't know what type of advice y' all expect to get from. From her.

[Jess Hilarious]

Shut up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

After hearing what she's got to say, just.

[Jess Hilarious]

But, hey, yo, no, yo,

[Charlamagne Tha God]

the young girl is possessed.

[Jess Hilarious]

I said, that's what I thought at first.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She wonder why she be getting in trouble.

[Jess Hilarious]

That's what I thought at first.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And that's why you should never, ever go with your first thought. Matter of fact, think three, four times before you shut up. Anyway, we'll be back with. Just fix my mess.

[Caller / Guest]

It's the real deal. Help me.

[Jess Hilarious]

Help me.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Oh, my God. I'm all up in your mess. I'm gonna fix it.

[Kier Gaines]

Fix it, fix it, fix it.

[Jess Hilarious]

Just gonna fix your mess. Cause my advice is real. Hello? Who's this?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yo, dude.

[Jess Hilarious]

All right, D, what's up? What's going on? Calm down.

[Caller / Guest]

So look, I was talking. I was calling. I was calling to see if. Just to fix this mess.

[Jess Hilarious]

So what's up?

[Caller / Guest]

Close, Close. Family got three kids. Mom is not in their life. When the kids was born, mom said, okay. Okay. First one, probably yours. Second one, I don't know. Third one, that ain't you. He said, whatever. I want these kids and they mine.

[Jess Hilarious]

Okay.

[Caller / Guest]

Mom left out the picture. He don't know if these kids his. He's scared to take a DNA test. I feel like you should take a DNA test. The kids deserve to know who their father is and look for.

[Jess Hilarious]

They do. They do. But he wanted the kids, right? And he knew that there was a high chance of them not being his.

[Caller / Guest]

Knew it. Knows.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah. But now he's rethinking that because that's three kids that he got that he's responsible for struggling. Yeah, yeah. Kids are not easy, especially three of them.

[Caller / Guest]

So, yeah, and that's cool when you got little kids and you can do that. The kids like 15, 14 and 12.

[Jess Hilarious]

Damn. They stares at me.

[Caller / Guest]

Single parent kids live with him struggling.

[Jess Hilarious]

Jesus. Okay, so the question.

[Caller / Guest]

My thing is, what? Do you think he should take a DNA test? Do you think these kids deserve to know if that's their fault?

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, I do. I think that he should get them a DNA test. But I also think he should be reminded of the responsibility that he took on knowing that they may not be his kids. He gotta. You gotta understand that, you know, being a parent is not, not a single parent of three is not easy. And I, I, my hats off to him. I, I give, I applaud him for doing that, knowing that they more than likely weren't his kids. But at some point, he just needs, he needs assistance. I mean, I think this is a perfect time for him to go downtown. He should take their mother downtown, take. Put their mother on child support, get, get some type of help. You know what I mean? Just like moms do it, dads can do it too. And although he's not that biological father, he still has them in his care. He's been taking care of them all he life.

[Caller / Guest]

Correct. And nothing has to say. I feel like nothing has to change. You had them this long, but just to know.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, they should know. But I feel like they should get older and make that we should wait for them to get older to make that decision their self. We should not be telling them just because it's harder. It's getting harder and harder to take care of them, that you might want to go find your real father. Now, kids, this is, this is all I got for you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You it.

[Jess Hilarious]

And I'm exhausted and y' all. Not really.

[Caller / Guest]

They bring up the conversation and they want.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[Jess Hilarious]

They want to know who their father is.

[Caller / Guest]

They're fully informed.

[Jess Hilarious]

Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, well, cool.

[Jess Hilarious]

Then that. See you buried the lead. I ain't know that. All right, so it's time to go set out to go find who these kids fathers are. You know, I do believe that. Especially if they want to know, they are certainly entitled to know. They need to know.

[Caller / Guest]

Yeah. That's how I feel. And I feel like nothing has to change because you, You've had them this long, but I just feel like that's something that has.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah. Now, who are you? Who are you to them? D. Oh, oh, you just calling for somebody.

[Caller / Guest]

Yeah, I help.

[Jess Hilarious]

I'm there for support, but okay, now just check back in with me. Yeah, definitely go help them kids find who their fathers are. And I appreciate you for helping, you know, helping the guy thus far to take care of the kids. That's very noble of both of you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's it. Yo, who's this?

[Caller / Guest]

Oh, Breakfast Club. It's Mitchell.

[Jess Hilarious]

What's up, Mitchell?

[Lauren LaRosa]

How y' all doing?

[Caller / Guest]

Hey, Jess. Hey, Jess. Good to talk to you again.

[Jess Hilarious]

What's up? What's going on?

[Caller / Guest]

All right, so thank you. So I have a close friend. Me and my brother and my. One of my best friends from, like, childhood. We had a big falling out because we moved away when we were in high school. We grew up in Baltimore, and we moved away. We moved to Indiana and kind of we didn't lose touch with everybody, but we had one friend who really stayed close with us. And then when we became adults, we started going back to, like, it sounds corny, but, like, wrestle. Like, dress up and rent a ring. Just some grown men in their 30s pretending like we teenagers again.

[Jess Hilarious]

Okay.

[Caller / Guest]

My good friend Ray, he started really getting nasty with my brother. My brother moved to California and he stopped coming back to wrestle. So then Ray started making this, like, halfway real life, halfway kayfabe or pretend. He would talk or talk stuff about him, but the stuff just started getting nastier and nastier to the point where I got in a real life beef behind this fake wrestling moniker or whatever. So we had a really bad falling out. He said some really terrible things about my brother to the group, the wrestling group, and it's been beef ever since. That was probably 2020 now. My brother and him have kind of patched things up, but I don't still feel like. I don't know, like he's just such a negative person. I've cut him off. But my kids, who are now teenagers, they're like, oh, where's Uncle Ray? We miss him. And how you gonna throw away your friendship? You tell us to talk. How come you only talking things out?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But I don't know.

[Caller / Guest]

So what do you think, Jess?

[Jess Hilarious]

So, I mean, you should always. You should give him a chance. I mean, y' all wrestling together and, you know, doing y' all thing and dressing up and y' all doing, you know, y' all living y' all childhoods out in adulthood. And I think that's. I think that's cool. We don't see that enough. I think you should give your friend another chance. Maybe it's something that happened in his life that caused for him to react that way. You know what I mean? You don't know what Rey is going through. He probably was going through a time, a challenging time and was just taking it out on your brother. And if your brother could forgive him because he was the one that was doing him dirty and talking nasty about him and being nasty with him. You know, I think you should find it in your heart to, you know, give him a chance to. To explain himself. Give him. Give him a chance to explain himself.

[Caller / Guest]

You're right. You're right. I. I don't think he's gonna necessarily have a change of heart, but you're right. If Dean could forgive him you don't think. You don't think people. No, I think he feels justified in what he said. Like, one of the things he would say was like.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, I was gonna say, give me

[Caller / Guest]

a little bit of what he said, for instance. Okay. Something mild that he'd be like, oh, Dean, wanna run to Indiana and play on the golf course with the white boys playing grab ass. But you can't come back home to Baltimore and get your ass kicked. You can't. You forget where you from.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, yeah.

[Caller / Guest]

Or my brother. His wife is doing pretty well. She got a really good job at Apple. She's small and they live in San Francisco. And he's like, oh, you just wanna hang out up under your meal ticket. You're gonna stay with your white girl and you can't come back to Baltimore. You just a paper princess. Just starts typing stuff. That's kind of.

[Jess Hilarious]

I mean, I, I. All I see is, is a hurt guy who feel like, you know, y' all went up and then y' all left him and he there with no ass to grab. You know what I mean? Y' all wanted to go out and do y' all thing. He got the white. The white. The white woman in San Francisco with the job at Apple. You forgot where you came. You came from the wireless. Don't never forget that, baby. And then you say. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. That's all I see is a man scorned. He misses friends, and he just felt like y', all, man, y' all threw him to the curb. Y' all left him down the harbor.

[Caller / Guest]

Damn.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Just.

[Jess Hilarious]

You know what I'm saying.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, you right.

[Caller / Guest]

You're right, you're right.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah. So just go call him, talk to him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, I'mma call him.

[Caller / Guest]

I'mma hit him today.

[Jess Hilarious]

All right, then hit me up next week. Let me know.

[Caller / Guest]

I will. I'll hit you back next week and let you know. Thank you. Thank you so much, guys.

[Jess Hilarious]

Thank you.

[Caller / Guest]

Hey, can I, Can I drop my Instagram? I'm also an artist.

[Jess Hilarious]

All right, go ahead, go ahead. See, now you acting brand new again. You know what I mean? He gonna be even more mad when he is now. You want to be an artist? You know, I mean, told me to draw.

[Caller / Guest]

Actually, I'm an anime artist. Mose Art 812M O E S A R T 812 on TikTok and Instagram. He actually taught me how to draw. You right? I really need to hit my.

[Jess Hilarious]

Come on, man. What we doing?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm doing it.

[Caller / Guest]

I am. Am.

[Jess Hilarious]

Call Your brother.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right.

[Caller / Guest]

I was in my emotions.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'mma call my brother.

[Caller / Guest]

Thanks, Jeff.

[Jess Hilarious]

No problem. No problem.

[Caller / Guest]

I appreciate you, sis.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Peace.

[Jess Hilarious]

Peace. All right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's. Just Fix my mess. We do that every Thursday. You can call in and, you know, let Jess fix your mess. I don't. Did you.

[Jess Hilarious]

Charlemagne.

[Kier Gaines]

Shut up.

[Jess Hilarious]

I literally just helped him mend his relationship with his brother.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know. Did you fix anything this morning? I don't know.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yes. The guy. The guy that just called up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, okay. It just feel like y' all be getting messy together.

[Jess Hilarious]

Shut up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And then you be like, pray. Just pray and drink water.

[Jess Hilarious]

Whatever.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We got the latest with Lauren coming up. It's the Breakfast Club.

[DJ Envy]

Get ready for the next evolution of crime drama from the creator of the culturally defining series Power. Courtney A. Kemp joins forces with co creator and executive producer Tahni Maroli to bring the story of Nemesis to life. This series pairs relentless action with deep emotional stakes as a brilliant criminal mastermind and an obsessed LAPD detective collide in a wild game of cat and mouse that challenges what it means to be a good man under impossible circumstances. Nemesis has everything you want in dark, high stakes crime drama, but don't get it twisted. It's not just about crime. It's an eight episode no skip thrill ride that digs into love, loss, and what it means to ride for your partner when everything's on the line. Watch Nemesis now playing on Netflix.

[State Farm Agent]

This past weekend, like every other Sunday, you were on the coast court with the guys playing ball. Just a quick pickup game, living out your hoop dreams. No triple doubles, but mean set of threes in between buckets. One of the homies mentioned he closed on a new crib. This is big. And while everyone's asking about housewarming and making plans to celebrate, you're asking the real questions. Like, has he spoken to his State Farm agent yet about coverage? See, homeownership is one thing, but the right coverage is the real game changer. Even more than your last hot streak, it's how you protect your legacy. Dropping buckets and bars on the court. A State Farm agent can more than assist you with finding the right coverage for your new place. If you have a claim, your local agent can help you file it. Yep, that's right. Over the phone, in person, online, or on the app, they are ready to help you. And they don't drop the ball. You know what I mean? Like a good neighbor. State farmers there.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Okay, so quick behind the scenes moment about my business because people always ask me, like, how do I actually run everything. So Shopify is literally the platform where I turned this tiny idea into a business. Before this, I was really just like popping up at any in person event, any vending opportunity I could, which I still do, but I wasn't really as focused online. I, I was like, you know, the websites are going to be too much to build out. I'm not like a super techie person, even though I can make things cute. And I didn't want to put up a website that that would run my customers away. I wanted it to be efficient, to be easy. And Shopify helped me build brown girlgrinding.com out. Once I switched to Shopify, it finally clicked like, okay, I can actually do this. It's not about it being tough. It's about using the right platform to make it easy. Shopify takes all of the guesswork out. I build my own store, I manage my community, own my own customer relationships platform. Plus, this is my favorite thing. Shopify gets my products everywhere. I'm able to link stuff through Google, YouTube, TikTok, Shop, the Shop app, even ChatGPT and Instagram, which is very important for me. And Shopify's AI co founder, sidekick, game changer, let me tell y', all, right? So it's helped me not only optimize my site, it helps me look at my sales trends, it updates my product skills, all the stuff I'm absolutely not an expert in. But it's like having a genius business partner that never sleeps. And right now the Bronco grinding storefront and the Black Effect storefront is busy and Shopify is handling all of the heavy lifting. I love that for us. I am pumped, like so pumped that Shopify is going to show up at the Black Effect Podcast festival this year in a big way. And I will be there preaching this platform to all of the small black owned businesses that partner with us. So if you've been sitting on an idea or if you're ready to scale, which you've already started, started, this is your sign. Go to shopify.com Ben if I can do it, you can do it too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Amazon Health AI presents painful thoughts.

[Mimi Brown]

Why did I search the Internet for answers to my cold sore problem? Now I'm stuck down a rabbit hole filled with images of alarmingly graphic source

[Lauren LaRosa]

in various stages of ooze.

[Mimi Brown]

I can clear my search history, but I can never unsee that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Don't go down the rabbit hole.

[Kier Gaines]

Amazon Health AI gets you the right care fast.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Healthcare just got less painful.

[Jess Hilarious]

Lauren becoming a straight thing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She gets them from somebody that knows somebody. She gets the details.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She'd be having the latest on the bees. The latest with Lauren, Lorenzo Rosa. Sometimes you have facts, sometimes you have details. Sometimes she have a little bit of everything.

[Kier Gaines]

Oh, it's the latest brought to you by Top Dog Law on the Breakfast Club.

[Lauren LaRosa]

All right, y', all, before we get into this lady latest, not the lady into this latest, because we're gonna be talking about some. Some ladies. No, I am happy with mommy and. But okay, I want to correct something. So last ladies, we congratulated Chanel Jones for being on the New York Times bestsellers list for four weeks in a row. And I mentioned that she was number one on that list for four weeks. Well, when we originally talked about it some weeks ago, she was number one. She's actually celebrating. She debuted at number one. She was actually just celebrating being on the list for four weeks. In general, she is now number four on this list. And number two on the list is Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins. And number one is Birth Vibes by Jen Hamilton.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So still a big deal.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, I just wanted to make sure I. I updated that. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. She's number six on the list, Chanel Jones. So we just want to make sure.

[Mimi Brown]

Yes.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Congratulations to her.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yep.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Now let's get into this conversation that is starting to happen around Nicki Minaj. So Nicki Minaj sat down with Time magazine and this 90 minute interview. It happened right after Nicki Minaj spoke at the World Liberty Forum back in February. And she makes it very clear in this interview that she has been a Trump supporter for a while, but feels like she had to suppress it. She. She says, I felt that she's already felt this way about him, but she just didn't act about it in public. She says it's been ingrained in everyone's brain in the music business that we're supposed to be a Democratic family. I just knew they would not like me supporting Trump. Then for the first time, she gives us specific reasons why she turned into the face of maga. So she mentions, number one, her issues with Obama. She says that she was disappointed by President Barack Obama. She was frustrated by the expectation that they had that black entertainers would just, you know, as a reflex, vote Democrat. She says that she does not like the fact that Jay Z is a close friend of Obama. And she says that this stems from her feeling that Jay Z and Roc Nation allegedly ruined her career. The quote is, I think Jay Z ended up costing Obama a lot, whether he knows it or not. Lots of rappers don't like Jay Z and are just afraid to say it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What did Jay Z cost Obama? Obama's a two term president.

[Jess Hilarious]

Right.

[Mimi Brown]

And in 2016, Nikki publicly supported Hillary Clinton.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Well, she, now she's changing her tune. She says that, that Jay Z's accumulated such a concentrated power in the industry that many artists have now come to resent him. And that was backshadow to Obama in some way somehow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So they resent him because he has power.

[Lauren LaRosa]

That's what she's saying. She also says that Obama, she didn't like the fact that Obama was condescending to Kamala Harris during the 2024 election cycle. And what she's talking about and referencing is the speech that Obama gave where he was talking to black men. She says, I just saw so many videos of black men saying that they didn't like the way that they felt about the speech that Obama gave. They felt like they weren't being listened to.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How is that condescending towards Kamala Harris?

[Lauren LaRosa]

I think she's talking about the conversation that happened after that speech. That speech that he gave where people felt like he was calling out black men because they weren't supporting Kamala. And Kamala was on this campaign trail saying, no, black men do support me. I'm hearing differently. And there was a lot of conversation around that where or not Obama should have said the things the way he said them or not. And she pointed that out. But this is the biggest thing, she says that what made her publicly start talking about Trump and supporting him was the swatting that happened on her home and how Gavin Newsom did not respond to help her. So she says in 2022, 2023 and 2025, her mansion, which is gated in California, received regular swatting calls, which is where someone will call the police and say, you know, someone's in the house with this or that. So then a ton of police come and they storm your house. Now, she says, of course this frightened her. It frightened her younger son. She says, you know, as of right now, law enforcement still has not identified or arrested anyone in connection with the incidents.

[Jess Hilarious]

Did she go to a local council? I mean, like her mayor?

[Lauren LaRosa]

And so, you know, she said that she reached out to Gavin Newsom at the time and he completely ignored her. She says, with all the money I spend in taxes. Now, Newsom's office did not respond to Times request to comment, but she says when the 2025 attempt happened, she spoke about it on X that Republicans basically got behind her, she says. Anna Paulina Luna, who we've seen her align herself with since, who also works for Turning Point usa, says that she reached out to Nicki Minaj. She connected Nicki Minaj with federal law enforcement officials in a security. Private firm. A private security firm which then began to protect Nicki in her home. And Nicki Minaj says, I was shocked. I'd never seen any. Anyone in politics treat me that way. So she began to consider going public as a part of Trump's MAGA movement at that time. And she says, that's what made me say, I don't care to keep this a secret anymore. And then she did the United Nations.

[Mimi Brown]

That doesn't make sense. So she blamed all that on Gavin Newsom. I mean, there's steps that you have to go through before you just go to the governor, like, just said, so the mayor, you can go. You know, federal authorities. You hire personal security to start off at the governor and then blame him. Come. Kind of doesn't make sense.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, well, she's given us these. These. These bullet points here to live with.

[Jess Hilarious]

So.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, man, I don't care what Nicki Minaj, thanks to the time like this.

[Jess Hilarious]

Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right. Trump's tariffs got the cost of household goods through the roof. You know, the.

[Caller / Guest]

The.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The war he got us in got gas prices through the roof. Inflation is high. Social services have been cut. You know, people's healthcare has been cut. I don't. I don't. I don't care.

[Mimi Brown]

But I just want to say that's like calling the CEO it that your WI fi is down. You know, of. Your. Your telecommunications company just damn. Doesn't make sense.

[Jess Hilarious]

You remember, I was trying to blame that on Emergio, and I thought that my son WI fi. I thought the WI fi was going out because of the merging. Whole time, we just had to unplug and replug the box.

[Mimi Brown]

I remember that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, we edited that. We edited that. So people.

[Mimi Brown]

She just told us again.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, but she told everybody.

[Kier Gaines]

Wow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. Yeah, well, you just want people to

[Jess Hilarious]

know what else we got.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Lauren, I mean, how ridiculous you are.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You know, we was gonna close with, you know, your experience yesterday. Cause t. I did.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, real quick, though, by the way, you can support whoever you want.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Politically. But you also need to know how that person's policies are impacting the people who probably support you. Your actual fan base.

[Lauren LaRosa]

She says that she didn't want to alienate her fan base in the beginning of it, but you know, personally, she. These things happen and it changed her mind about what she decided.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Understand. But, you know, personally, things happen for you that might have benefited you, but I'm just telling you, overall, I guarantee you the people that buy your albums economically are doing way worse right now

[Lauren LaRosa]

and can't pick up the phone and call Gavin Newsome if they tried. But.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yes, yeah, but Shout out to everybody in Atlanta. Yo, people were leaving my event. It was from 6 to 8 because at 9 o' clock they had to be at the Mercedes Benz Stadium. T. I shut it down. Like last night. He celebrated 20 years of the movie ATL and also 20 years as king of the South. He received the proclamation. Yo, and what. I think, I thought they. What they did to the arena was so cool. They made it a whole like cascade skateline. So I thought that was very, very fire that he did that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You talk about TI's album king.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, TI. I mean, TI's album king.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But yeah, yeah, he.

[Jess Hilarious]

They honored him for 20 years as being the king of the city South.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, no, the king album is 20 years old, so it was 20 years of ATL and 20 years. But yeah, I don't think he was ever crowned King of South officially.

[DJ Envy]

Really?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

For him to honor it? I mean, yes, we. We call himself that, but yeah, I thought that they like proclamation for him and give him a crown. We don't have kings in America.

[Jess Hilarious]

Hey, yo, okay, sure. But he received a proclamation honoring 20 years. Okay, okay. The album. That's the only thing that I left out of there. But no, it has in quotation King of the South.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Like, it's the album. It's for the 20 years of the impact, the memories and Atlanta legacy that the album king garnered and leaned into.

[Caller / Guest]

Exactly.

[Jess Hilarious]

And when does the new album come out?

[Lauren LaRosa]

I don't have a date on that.

[Jess Hilarious]

Okay. Cause no, like it said album release as well, so I thought it would have released last night, but it didn't. He doing a lot of promo for it and stuff.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Oh, maybe not Killed the King. Okay. It was according to. Yeah, it might have came out yesterday. I didn't hear it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Kill the King. I don't think get dropped.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Oh, well, according to Wikipedia. But I don't think I. I don't know that we ever had a date. They just kept saying early 2026.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, okay. Well, yeah, he was celebrated last night. He shut down the Mercedes Benz stadium. It was cool.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

When we come back. Thank you, Lauren, for the latest.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yep. That was brought to you by Top Dog Law. Any accident, big or Small. Call the guys at Top Dog Law.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

When we come back, it's the people's choice mix. Envy is going to act like he was here this whole time, but you know he's has not been here this morning. But you know he's going to give you a mix. It's the Breakfast Club. Yep. It's the world's most dangerous morning show. The breakfast club. DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne. Tha God. Lauren LaRosa is here as well. Jess, you was in Atlanta last night, right?

[Jess Hilarious]

I was in Atlanta last night for my book signing event at Estes Music Lounge. I thought it was really, really dope. Jojo Alonzo moderated the conversation. I got to do a live segment of just fix my mess in real time. Around co parenting. I talked to some dads, talked to some moms, some couples, signed some books. We, we had a fireside chat. Q and A. It was really, really dope. Shout out to egg flip. They sponsored the event. And then, yeah, the city of Atlanta is just always dope when I come. So I appreciate it. And shout out to 96.1 to beat. They listen to us here in Atlanta every morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

My guy, Louis V. Yes, sir. Thank you to ATL for making us number one too, man. We really appreciate it making the Breakfast Club number one.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I knew I loved the show.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Louie and them.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, he beginning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Louie, Louie.

[Caller / Guest]

Yes, sir.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What? What we number one at? Or does it matter? It don't even matter. Y' all number one. Y' all kill it. Y' all killed it. You know what I'm saying?

[Jess Hilarious]

It don't even matter.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Y' all just number one.

[Caller / Guest]

Just know that.

[Jess Hilarious]

I love that because yo is so much competition here with morning shows, yo, and we number one happy.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You don't see competition, but it is

[Jess Hilarious]

a lot of it. So anyway, next week, get your tickets. East Providence, Rhode Island. Meet me at the Comedy Connection next Friday there. Next Saturday. We got four shows in total. And I also have a book signing event you can get. For more details, you can go on my website, jessalarisofficial.com East Providence. Not only will I be bringing a comedy, I'll be bringing my book signing books and having fireside chats about that as well. Can't wait to get there. East Providence next weekend.

[Lauren LaRosa]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Jess Hilarious]

but we got a positive note, shorty.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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