FULL SHOW: Drake's ICEMAN Release Date Revealed After Streamer Breaks Through Ice Sculpture 🧊 + Kenya Barris Interview

Summary

The Breakfast Club – April 22, 2026

Episode: "Drake's Iceman Release Date After Streamer Breaks Through Ice Sculpture 🧊 + Kenya Barris Interview"

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Breakfast Club, hosted by DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, and Charlamagne Tha God, is packed with the latest hip-hop news, pop culture, hot topics, and real talk on politics and family. The major highlights include the blow-by-blow of Drake’s "ICEMAN" album rollout, a candid and insightful interview with creator Kenya Barris (about his documentary on NBA legend Jerry West), and trending topics such as Tucker Carlson's public apology about Trump, Spirit Airlines facing bankruptcy, and public reaction to the Michael Jackson biopic.

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Key Topics & Discussions

1. Drake "ICEMAN" Release Date Announcement & Album Rollout

• [23:41–30:41] "The Latest with Lauren LaRosa"
• Drake's "ICEMAN" album is officially dropping May 15, 2026.
• The rollout included a huge ice sculpture/art installation in downtown Toronto. Streamer Kishka broke through the sculpture after days of effort (possibly with a clue from a drone flyover), found the album’s release date and was rewarded with $50,000 CAD (approx. $36K USD) after visiting Drake’s house.
• Discussion of potential album features, notably Sexyy Red, hinted by clues in a booklet found with the release date.
• Easter eggs pointing to the ongoing Kendrick Lamar beef ("Pinocchio with a sniper target" imagery referencing lies and false narratives).
• Charlamagne Tha God: “He knew where that was. He knew exactly where that was.” (24:46)
• Lauren LaRosa: “I was told that [Sexyy Red] is definitely something you can look forward to, is her on the project.” (26:03)
• Drake made an appearance at his window but didn’t come out to personally congratulate the streamer.
• Toronto police had to close the art installation for safety as the ice began to melt and crowds swelled.

2. Kenya Barris Interview – "Jerry West: The Logo" Documentary

• [40:16–63:27] Feature Interview
• Kenya Barris discusses producing the Jerry West documentary for Prime Video, recounting his initial meeting with West, West’s legacy as both the NBA logo and a player, and the reluctance of the NBA to acknowledge (or pay) West for being the logo:
  • “They never admitted it before this documentary... Adam Silver just being cool…and finally admitted it.” (46:09)
• He highlights insights from NBA legends like Magic Johnson and Michael Jordan, who have deep respect for Jerry West.
• On the idea of changing the logo to Kobe Bryant: Kenya shares that Jerry West himself was supportive of the idea, but explains why the logo should stay.
  • “I think that there’s something to Jerry represent. He was there almost from the nascent when NBA was like 1200 people in the arena…he had such a through line…” (44:05)
• Barris reflects on navigating Hollywood as a Black creator, why he walked away from “Blackish” after being censored in the Trump era, and how he now prioritizes projects that "matter" and have cultural impact.
• Candid talk about the changing media landscape, podcasts as new cultural powerhouses, and encouragement for The Breakfast Club to consider a scripted behind-the-scenes show about podcasting.
• Notable Quote:
  “I left Blackish because of him [Trump].… It felt like censorship.” (53:15–53:42)
• Discussion on family and healing after divorce—Kenya shares an idea for a series on post-divorce life and the challenges of co-parenting, relating humorously to his own life.

3. Front Page News & Trending Topics (Mimi Brown & Lauren LaRosa Segments)

• Virginia’s New Congressional Map
  • Could shift at least four House seats to Democrats, described as Republicans “getting beat at their own gerrymandering game.” (08:14)
• Latest on the Iran War & Oil Prices
  • President Trump extends ceasefire, VP JD Vance flies to negotiate (but talks fall through). Gas prices spike across the country (>$4 national average, $6 in some places).
  • Jess Hilarious: “Almost $6. Like, that’s crazy.” (10:32)
• Spirit Airlines Bankruptcy & Bailout
  • Spirit seeks taxpayer money to survive surging fuel prices and bankruptcy. The crew debates whether low-cost airlines are worth saving for the broader public benefit.
  • DJ Envy: “Don’t give no money to Spirit, okay? I don’t want none of my taxpayer dollars going to Spirit.” (36:13)
• Tucker Carlson’s Public Regret Over Trump
  • Carlson issues a rare apology for having supported Trump, saying, “We’ll be tormented by it for a long time. I will be. And I want to say I’m sorry for misleading people. It was not intentional.” (32:13, 78:36)
  • The hosts debate whether his remorse is sincere or opportunistic, with Charlamagne demanding Democrats use this for political attack ads.

4. Caller/Listener Interactions

• [12:19–18:58, 85:55–99:51]
• Uplifting calls: Marcus from Virginia celebrates his 21st wedding anniversary live on air.
• Listeners weigh in on classic Breakfast Club debates:
  • The merits (or lack thereof) of “guys’ trips” without spouses.
  • Parenting styles, generational differences, and allowing children to ask "why" rather than enforcing “because I said so.”
  • Coping with children’s behavior, changing perspectives on discipline, and allowing open communication about difficult topics like cursing or dating.
  • Heartfelt call from a father who lost his son, expressing regret for being too strict and vowing to be more open and friendly with his other children. (96:18–99:51)

5. Drake, Michael Jackson, and Pop Culture News

• Michael Jackson Biopic Predictions
  • Lauren LaRosa: MJ’s biopic is projected to earn $85–150 million opening weekend, possibly the biggest for a biopic ever. (70:00)
  • Rotten Tomatoes ratings are low (35%), likely due to critics wanting more focus on MJ’s controversies.
  • The team discusses what’s missing from the film, the importance of clearing up longstanding rumors (such as vitiligo and child abuse accusations), and their own loyalty to MJ’s legacy.
  • DJ Envy: “If the FBI investigates you for 17 years and they don’t find anything, you’re clean.” (71:41)
• Teyana Taylor’s Career Accolades
  • Announced as the new face of Revlon’s Be Unforgettable campaign and directing a new film with Storm Reid.
• Kardashian Controversies
  • Kylie Jenner faces allegations of discrimination by a former staffer; Khloe Kardashian goes viral for a billboard where she appears much darker (“Black Khloe”).
  • The team jokes about self-tanning and visual identity among the Kardashians.

6. Donkey of the Day: Tucker Carlson

• [77:13–84:34]
• Charlamagne awards Tucker Carlson "Donkey of the Day" for his belated apology and for trying to claim his support for Trump wasn’t intentional.
• He urges Democrats to weaponize Tucker’s words against MAGA candidates in future election cycles.
• Notable Quote:
  “A sincere apology requires taking full responsibility for actions without excuses. A sincere apology—you own the action, you express regret, you acknowledge the impact, you take responsibility, and you make amends. And guess what — you have to be intentional about it.” (83:40)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the Drake rollout:
  “The Iceman rollout has been great. I think...that is what rollouts are supposed to do, garner you attention.” – DJ Envy [29:03]
• On podcasts as modern cultural centers:
  “I think podcasts are the most powerful venue in the world in terms of entertainment...there is nothing on every day that people can, like, everyone goes with. Something's happening, they come to see what y' all are talking about today.” – Kenya Barris [59:01]
• Kenya Barris on media change:
  “I want to do stuff that matters. I want to do stuff that, like, has a voice. I’m doing a movie with Tiana out here. It’s her directorial debut. I want her to kill it.” [52:30]
• Tucker Carlson on regret:
  “We’ll be tormented by it for a long time. I will be. And I want to say I’m sorry for misleading people. It was not intentional.” – Tucker Carlson [32:13 / 78:36]
• Listener, Marcus:
  "Her name’s Shamika. Shamika White…. Thank you so much for being there and having my back, man." [12:50]
• On old school vs. new school parenting:
  “I grew up in a because I said so era, right? So you get, like, a lot of emotional pushback. I allow my son to do, like, emotional pushback. But you said that yesterday or asked me why, like, not, like, bedtime becomes a debate.” – Jess Hilarious [87:04]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Drake "Iceman" Rollout & Album News: 23:41–30:41
• Kenya Barris: Jerry West ("The Logo") Interview: 40:16–63:27
• Front Page News (Politics, Trump, Spirit Airlines): 05:19–39:44, 31:08–39:44
• Drake Album Feature, Rollout Recap: 15:53–19:17, 23:41–30:41
• Michael Jackson Biopic Discussion: 68:52–76:00
• Donkey of the Day: Tucker Carlson: 77:13–84:34
• Candid Parenting Discussion w/ Callers: 85:49–99:51
• Pop Culture Quick Hits (Kardashian, Teyana Taylor): 68:52–69:46, 106:20–110:55

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Tone & Style

The episode blends The Breakfast Club’s trademark humor, cultural critique, and raw authenticity. Expect playful jokes, spirited debates, candid self-reflection, grounded advice, and barbershop-style commentary. Political coverage is skeptical and critical; cultural coverage is passionate and inquisitive.

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Conclusion

This episode is a stellar snapshot of The Breakfast Club’s appeal—relevant, funny, unfiltered and deeply plugged into Black culture and the wider worlds of entertainment and politics. The Kenya Barris interview offers must-hear insights on sports, showbiz, and media, while the “Drake Watch” segment documents both hip-hop spectacle and fan culture in real time. The team’s discussions on family, discipline, and generational change are honest, relatable, and sometimes moving. This is an essential listen for fans of the show or anyone wanting to keep up with what matters in the culture right now.

Transcript

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[DJ Envy]

and turned it into a real business.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I still remember the first ever sale I made for my fashion brand.

[Jess Hilarious]

Embellished.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It was a huge moment for me and Shopify made it all possible.

[DJ Envy]

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[Jess Hilarious]

create something that lasts.

[Lauren LaRosa]

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[DJ Envy]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wake that ass up.

[DJ Envy]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

yo yo yo yo yo Just hilarious. Wake that ass up Charlemagne de Gaulle

[DJ Envy]

Peace to the planet Guess what day it is. Guess what day it is. Pump day. How y' all feel out there? I feel blessed. Black and highly favored. Happy to be here. Another day to serve our beautiful listeners. Good morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, it's Wednesday's hump day. Middle of the week. How you feeling, Jess?

[Jess Hilarious]

I feel okay. How are you?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You look tired.

[Jess Hilarious]

Tired as. Tired? Yes, Very tired.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You look very tired.

[Jess Hilarious]

I'm here. Thank God that I woke up this morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Did you smoke before you came in this morning?

[Jess Hilarious]

No, I. Honestly, I have.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Not edible?

[Jess Hilarious]

No.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, you just.

[DJ Envy]

I don't believe her.

[Jess Hilarious]

I'm just tired. I don't care what y' all believe, damn it, I'm tired.

[DJ Envy]

But God can see her. That's all that matters.

[Jess Hilarious]

Exactly. Exactly.

[DJ Envy]

And I'm tell you something about God, man. I woke up this morning and I was like, man, today is one of those days. I wish I could just stay home and just be still and listen to the voice of God all day. And so as I was driving into work, you know, I was. I was slightly meditating, because, of course, you can't meditate when you're driving. But I was just riding in silence. And I said to myself, I'm not going to do anything but listen for the voice of God all day long.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[DJ Envy]

Even in this room. So if it's not of God, I don't want to hear it. And I haven't heard y' all yet this morning. I want you to know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right.

[DJ Envy]

Sounds like I'm deaf. Okay. Deaf in this room.

[Jess Hilarious]

Well, hopefully you be quiet, too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right?

[DJ Envy]

Somebody talking just now. I didn't hear.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, let's get the show cracking. Kenya Barris will be joining us. He has a new documentary. It's called the Logo. Jerry west, the Logo. It's on Prime Video now. You know, Jerry west, if you are NBA fan, he is the. It was the alleged Logo for a long time. And now, I guess in the documentary, they are proving that Jerry west is the Logo.

[DJ Envy]

I mean, they've always known it was the Logo. They didn't want to. They didn't want to admit that he was the Logo because they didn't want. Have to pay him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Correct?

[DJ Envy]

Yes. But they always knew that was his silhouette.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. So he'll be joining us to talk

[DJ Envy]

about one of the greatest losers in NBA history. Probably the greatest loser in NBA history.

[Jess Hilarious]

Jesus.

[DJ Envy]

I mean, championship.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Championship.

[DJ Envy]

I know that sounds crazy, but, yes, there are championship losers.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Definitely is. A Hall of Famer. Is. Yeah, yeah.

[DJ Envy]

He's like, what, one in. One in six in NBA Finals? One in six and 1 7. Something like that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Kenya Barris]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So but we'll be kicking it with Kenya Barris in a little bit. Then we got front page news with Mimi Brown. Mimi be breaking out everything that's happening now.

[DJ Envy]

I did turn on one record this morning. One record. I don't know why. I just was in the mood to hear some Goody Mob this morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[DJ Envy]

You know what I mean? So I put on one of my favorite albums, Soul Food. Okay. If you was born in the 1900s, then you understand what that album meant to people, okay? How it filled you up.

[Jess Hilarious]

Did God speak to you through that album?

[DJ Envy]

He did, actually. 100 soul food. Absolutely. That God is all through that album. And he's all through the title track of that album, Soul Food, by the way.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, well, let's jump into it right now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Get your ass up. Meet me up next. Morning, everybody.

[DJ Envy]

It's D. Sunday morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Where you eat, Jess? Hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page news, start off with some quick sports. Now, last night in NBA, the 76ers beat the Celtics 111. 97. The Lakers beat the Rockets, 10194. Lead that. Excuse me. They lead that series two nothing. And the Trailblazers beat the Spurs 106. 103.

[DJ Envy]

I just assume if you're on the east coast and you staying up to watch games like the Rockets, Lakers, you ain't got nothing to do in the morning. You ain't got no job, you ain't got no Spurs. Kids to wake up in the morning after. Spurs, Trailblazers, that. And by the way, that was too late for me anyway.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That was late. Okay, that didn't mean, what, till like, 10:30?

[Kenya Barris]

10?

[DJ Envy]

I don't even remember. I just knew it was way past my bedtime and my eyes started to look like music. Soul chop. Yeah, it was time to sleep.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

These are late games. What's up, Mimi?

[Mimi Brown]

Good morning, nv, Jess. Charlemagne. How y' all doing this morning?

[DJ Envy]

Peace. Mimi Brown.

[Mimi Brown]

Good morning. So we start this morning in Virginia, where voters approved a new congressional map that could shift the balance of power in Washington. The decision gives Democrats a clearer path to pick up as many as four seats in the US House of Representatives at a time when control of Congress is expected to be tight heading into the midterms. And this comes after a multimillion dollar fight on both sides, with Democrats calling it a way to push back against Republican power and Republicans calling it an unfair Redraw or gerrymandering. Now, all of this is part of a much bigger nationwide battle. States across the country are redrawing maps mid decade, all trying to gain an edge before the next election. Let's hear from House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries.

[DJ Envy]

Listen.

[Kenya Barris]

We were on our way to winning control of the House of Representatives because Donald Trump and Republicans have completely and totally failed. The economy is a disaster. They've broken health care in the United States of America. And now we have this reckless, costly war of choice that Donald Trump has plunged the country in, spending billions of dollars to drop bombs in the Middle

[DJ Envy]

east, while these Republican extremists won't spend

[Kenya Barris]

a dime to make life better for the American people. It was important for Democrats to push back aggressively across the country to stop Donald Trump's gerrymandering scheme, which was designed to rig the midterm elections. They thought we were going to step back, but we've made clear that we will fight back and we're gonna keep our foot on the gas pedal.

[DJ Envy]

One of the rare times that I agree with Hakeem Jeffries, but this gives me a little hope for the midterms. Cause we know Trump and his goons are gonna do everything in their power to intervene in the midterms. And by intervene, I mean still. But when I see things like this, it gives me a case for optimism.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah, for sure. And we know we picked up five seats here in California. But up next is Florida. The lawmakers there, they are expected to take up their own redistricting plan as soon as next week's. Next week. So we'll continue to watch what happens there. Democrats, of course, are saying this is just bigger than. Several states are now doing this. And we'll see what outcome we have when we get to the midterm elections with all of these redistricting plans happening across the U.S. go ahead.

[DJ Envy]

And it also feels like Republicans got beat at their own game. Their. Their own gerrymandering game. Okay. Because Republicans started the redistricting gerrymandering game. They started that in Texas.

[Mimi Brown]

In Texas.

[DJ Envy]

Absolutely.

[Mimi Brown]

Absolutely. And now to the war in Iran, where we are waking up to a major development. President Trump announcing he is extending, sending the ceasefire just hours before it was set to expire. He says he's waiting for Iran to come to the table with a unified proposal and insisting the US Is in a strong position to get Iran to sign a nuclear deal. But some members of Congress, they are not convinced. They say the president may be standing in his own way when it comes to ending this war. Let's hear from Congressman Adam Smith and Congressman Gregory Meeks of New York.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, everyone seems to think that Trump has some sort of mad genius to what he's doing. Seems to me like he's just an arrogant egotist popping off in ways that aren't well thought out and don't advance any sort of strategic plan.

[Kenya Barris]

So I would hope that both sides stay at the table and work hard to get this thing done, because the end result is when you do things erratically, as the President has done it, the American people suffer.

[DJ Envy]

I agree with those individuals. Okay. Trump don't know what he's doing. He just giving it up.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah. Day by day, something different. So as we come on this morning, no talks are happening.

[Lauren LaRosa]

That was.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I was gonna ask, wasn't there supposed to be a meeting yesterday? JD Vance was flying in. What happened with that?

[Mimi Brown]

Exactly. There was supposed to be a meeting yesterday. JD Vance was flying in. But as of this morning, no talks are happening. Both sides were a no show envy in Pakistan with Iran refusing to attend, pointing that those U.S. seizures of those oil ships and the ongoing naval blockade as a reason to why they are refusing to show up at the table. Vice President J.D. vance, he is also back in Washington. There were pictures of him yesterday arriving at the White House, canceling his plans after those failed negotiations. And so, yeah, and here at home, of course, we're already feeling it. Oil prices, they climbed again yesterday after those shipments continue to be disrupted on the straight of Hermus. And of course, that's pushing those gas prices up that we're seeing. I think the national average is somewhere around $4 a gallon according to AAA. And that's just keeping pressure up, you know, on flight every day.

[Jess Hilarious]

Almost $6. Like, that's crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I know.

[Jess Hilarious]

These tractor trailer drivers are. These truckers are wild. What do you mean?

[DJ Envy]

What do you mean, these truckers?

[Jess Hilarious]

Because I'm not a trucker. I'm not.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm not a trucker.

[DJ Envy]

Act like you didn't have this conversation at home. Don't act like you didn't hear these complaints at the house.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, I hated complaints at the house with these truckers.

[DJ Envy]

How about them?

[Jess Hilarious]

I see like, yo, 5:46 is what I saw. Yo, they almost $6. That's crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I put $40.

[DJ Envy]

I'm.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm the 40 guy. I'm only putting 40 in regardless of the gas prices. And usually 40 would get $40.

[DJ Envy]

You got left $40. You was on your come up, you said, what, what but listen, you know, I saw the gas price, and today

[Charlamagne Tha God]

it only got me 80 miles.

[DJ Envy]

Today, I saw the gas prices go up in real time. I was driving, and it was like three something, and it went up to, like, four.

[Jess Hilarious]

While you was looking at it, I'm looking at.

[DJ Envy]

You know, you'd be looking at the signs, and you driving. The sign went up in real time. I was like, oh, shoot.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, that's crazy. 40 got me nothing this morning.

[DJ Envy]

It got somebody else something, though, didn't it? That was your. That was your place back in the day.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What are you talking about?

[DJ Envy]

Leave me $40.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Thank you, Mimi.

[DJ Envy]

God wanted me to tell him that.

[Kenya Barris]

No.

[Jess Hilarious]

All right.

[DJ Envy]

Wicked ways.

[Mimi Brown]

Coming up at 7. A major airline is struggling to stay afloat. The solution could involve your money. We're going to talk about it.

[DJ Envy]

Ah. I've been told y' all to get out the sky. I know exactly y' all wings should have been clipped a long time ago. I know exactly who you're talking about.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We'll get to that.

[DJ Envy]

That story.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Everybody else, 800-5851-money, right now. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[DJ Envy]

This is your time to get it

[Kenya Barris]

off your chest, whether you're Mad or blessed.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Hello? Who's this?

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, what up, man?

[Caller/Listener]

It's Marcus from Franklin, Virginia.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Marcus.

[DJ Envy]

What up, Marcus? How y' all doing this morning, man? Good. Black and highly favored.

[Caller/Listener]

That's what's up, man. Yo, do y' all mind if I take a moment to speak to my wife for a second?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Go ahead, bro.

[Caller/Listener]

Yo, babe, I love you so much. Happy 21st anniversary. You know, any other time, I would spend that time with you, but I just started this job Monday, like, you know, and I got to get to the bag, babe. Thank you so much for being there and having my back, man.

[DJ Envy]

I love you. What's your queen name?

[Jess Hilarious]

I love that.

[Caller/Listener]

Oh, my. Her name's Shamika. Shamika White.

[DJ Envy]

Shamika White. Salute to Shamika White, man. What's your name again, brother?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Marcus.

[Caller/Listener]

My name Marcus.

[DJ Envy]

Salute to Shamika White from Marcus. Man, I'm glad that you, you know, sending her that energy this morning. Is she upset that you can't spend time with her on your. On your anniversary?

[Caller/Listener]

Nah, she. She. She, like, get to the bag, man. She know what it is.

[DJ Envy]

That's what's up. How long y' all been together?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He just said, oh, been married 21 years.

[DJ Envy]

20. Oh, 21 years.

[Caller/Listener]

Been married 21 years.

[Jess Hilarious]

Amazing.

[DJ Envy]

Congratulations.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Listen. You don't listen. Well, congratulations, brother. Enjoy it.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Caller/Listener]

Thank you so much. And y' all have a wonderful day.

[DJ Envy]

You, too.

[Jess Hilarious]

Marcus, too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I could tell you. I could tell you. You not listening to people this morning.

[DJ Envy]

I know you not talking.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Charlemagne. Reset. Marcus. Then he said, what's your name, brother?

[Jess Hilarious]

Right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Then he got to the 21st anniversary. How long you been married?

[DJ Envy]

24. Yes, cuz things happen like that sometime. You do it all the time as well. You do know that, right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I do do it.

[DJ Envy]

Okay, then. So shut the hell up. You know what I'm saying?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You do it. But you did it right now. Just right on top of you. Just saying.

[DJ Envy]

Mar.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Darling.

[DJ Envy]

Hello?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who's this?

[Caller/Listener]

Hey, what's up? It's Kendra from Jersey.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Get it off your chest.

[DJ Envy]

What's your name? And where you calling from?

[Kenya Barris]

This guy's crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He's not listening.

[DJ Envy]

I heard you, Kendra from New Jersey.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What's up, Kendra? Get it off your chest.

[Lauren LaRosa]

All right.

[Caller/Listener]

Dang.

[DJ Envy]

Well, I was just.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I didn't have nothing to get off my chest.

[Caller/Listener]

Bad. I just called.

[DJ Envy]

What about that hair?

[Caller/Listener]

Good morning. What's up? What's that?

[DJ Envy]

Nothing. Kendra, go ahead.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Kendra, he is playing with you. He positive this morning.

[Caller/Listener]

I know he. He was having good vibes today. He's been playing ever since he said that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Absolutely.

[Caller/Listener]

Oh, man. But now I just want to say good morning to y' all and some good vibes for the day. You know? That's it.

[DJ Envy]

That's right, Kendra. Make sure God is in everything that you do today. I'm being serious, though. I did wake up this morning and I said I'm listening for the voice of God all day long. Like, I really wish I could just sit home and meditate all day, but that's not the way life works.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what?

[Caller/Listener]

That's great. You know why? You just keep. Keep good energy up all day and just try to be kind to people. You know, a lot of people going through things, you know, you never know. A lot of silent battles, no matter how much you see them smiling, they pushing through something.

[DJ Envy]

So that's real.

[Caller/Listener]

I just try to be as kind

[Lauren LaRosa]

as I can to people.

[DJ Envy]

That's real, Kendall. Absolutely right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Thank you, Mama.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And most importantly, be kind to Drake. Charlamagne, get ready for May 15th.

[Caller/Listener]

Oh, wow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I like that.

[DJ Envy]

I'm not sitting around hating on Drake. I don't care what Drake does.

[Caller/Listener]

All right, you want to make sure

[Lauren LaRosa]

that, you know, you won't be objective.

[DJ Envy]

Of course.

[Caller/Listener]

And give my boy a chance.

[DJ Envy]

I said yesterday that I like the rollout. I like what he did with the ice blocks. I think that was slick. And I saw him give $100,000 to the person who founded the release date. I thought that was slick. I. I like that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm sure Lauren's gonna be breaking that down in the latest. Yes, Drake did announce a date, and the person who found the actual thing in the ice got some bread last night.

[DJ Envy]

They broke.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, they broke the ice. Okay, cool.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But anybody, everybody else, get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need the vent, hit us up now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[DJ Envy]

It's a new day.

[Kenya Barris]

This is your time to get it off your chest.

[DJ Envy]

Wait. Wake up.

[Kenya Barris]

Whether you're mad or blessed, it's time

[DJ Envy]

to get up and get something. Call up now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

800-585-1051.

[Kenya Barris]

We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hello? Who's this?

[Caller/Listener]

Good morning. Breakfast Club is J. A From Indy.

[DJ Envy]

From Indy.

[Caller/Listener]

Jack.

[DJ Envy]

Ben.

[Caller/Listener]

I've been good. I've been flying a little bit. I've been to the island. We talked about that. Del. Lauren. I went to Italy. I was there before she was there. Okay, now I got beef with my boys.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why you got beef with your boys?

[Caller/Listener]

We take a guys trip every year. And now that the guys trip is coming up, the payments are. Now they want to make payment plans. I'm like, yeah, I just stay here.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nah, but you got to understand, the gas prices are high, food prices are high. They gonna get it together, man. They just gotta do a little bit at a time.

[Jess Hilarious]

It's different this year.

[DJ Envy]

Can I ask you a question? Can I ask you a question? What's the point of a guys triple?

[Kenya Barris]

It's for them.

[Caller/Listener]

I already be outside. I sliding up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's just they sit in the circle of masturbate.

[DJ Envy]

Are they all married?

[Jess Hilarious]

Liars. Stop.

[DJ Envy]

Are they all married?

[Caller/Listener]

There you go.

[DJ Envy]

A couple of them are, yeah. I just don't see the point of no God trip. I ain't like, you know what, I like to go on the island or something. I want to be with my wife. I ain't bunch of guys for what?

[Caller/Listener]

You know what? Cause we like to go to museums. We like to do things in that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what the funny thing? I was talking to my wife about this and I was like, I wouldn't want to go on a God trip. Then I rethought about it. I'm like, nah, I can. And I'M gonna tell you how if me and the fellas, let's say we into golf, and we say, yo, let's go golfing. Yeah, the fellas could go golfing if

[DJ Envy]

they wanted to, but that's a one day thing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Or, or if you're into soccer and you want to go to the World cup or, you know, I mean, you

[DJ Envy]

want to watch it and Chris Brown concert. That's what you talking about.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's not the same. But besides that, like, I don't want to go anywhere with my fellows.

[DJ Envy]

I like. Me neither.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm like, I like.

[DJ Envy]

I rather go with the wife.

[Jess Hilarious]

But y' all don't want to be with them for days. Like Charlotte said. All right, one day we can fellowship, congregate.

[DJ Envy]

We cool. One day is a little.

[Jess Hilarious]

Not like a whole trip.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nah, not a whole trip.

[DJ Envy]

Did you go to Anguilla? J?

[Caller/Listener]

You talked to me about this a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, I hit that.

[DJ Envy]

But did you go?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Caller/Listener]

Yes.

[DJ Envy]

Okay.

[Kenya Barris]

All right.

[Caller/Listener]

February. So before I lose, I don't think Charlotte and Embassy. I don't think y' all have friends. That's really why you.

[Jess Hilarious]

Damn. They probably don't play football.

[DJ Envy]

You might be right. I mean, no, I got frog out homies, but I don't know. Guys trip. I ain't never. I didn't even do a bachelor party when I get married. Like, that's not my idea of fun.

[Jess Hilarious]

But I feel like you don't even hang with nobody.

[DJ Envy]

No, I don't got.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Me neither.

[Jess Hilarious]

I was going to say, yeah, y'

[Charlamagne Tha God]

all don't hang out when I'm working. And cuz when, if I go to the game, I'm taking my son, you know, I'm taking my daughter. If I'm going somewhere, I'm taking my wife.

[Jess Hilarious]

Like, yeah, family or working.

[DJ Envy]

That's right. I got a very small circle of people that I like to be around.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Me too.

[DJ Envy]

And I'm happy, but it's not work related.

[Kenya Barris]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Very, very small circle. My circle so small it could be a dot. Thank you, J. Well, listen, I'll tell you something. The people you like to be around for no reason, that's like really your circle. And there's only a few people I like to be around for no reason. Yeah, like no reason. Like, you know, I'm talking about no reason whatsoever. We ain't got to be doing nothing, just kicking it. That circle is very, very, very, very, very, very small.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm with you. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. We got the latest coming up.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Hey, Lauren. Hey guys. Good morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How you feeling, Lauren?

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm feeling good. How y' all feeling? Yes, lashes period. Got them done yesterday. Filled and thick.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We have the latest coming up.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes, we do. I heard y' all talking about Drake this morning, so we got a release date.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We're going to get into it.

[Lauren LaRosa]

We also got some exclusive details. I called over to Canada yesterday, so we're going to get into those as well.

[Jess Hilarious]

They knocked that ice down fast.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Oh, we gonna talk about that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think he knew where that was, but we'll get into that next. The latest with Lawrence coming up. So don't move is the Breakfast Club.

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[Jess Hilarious]

All?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's DJ Envy from the Breakfast Club. Now check this out. The first phone call that ever happened happened over 150 years ago. 150 years. That's before any of this. Before radio, before social media, before all the ways we stay connected. Today, that one call really started everything. And fast forward to now. It's springtime, the weather's breaking, people outside vibes are right again. Thank God. And it got me thinking. Who haven't you talked to in a minute? And you know, through all these years and all these conversations, AT&T has been there, connecting people in meaningful ways. This is more than a story of technological innovation. It's really a story about human connection, real people, real moments, and real relationships. So we celebrate over 150 years of connection. Let this be your reminder. Don't wait. Make that call. Send that text. Pull up on somebody you care about. Because at the end of the day, those connections, that's what really matters.

[Lauren LaRosa]

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[DJ Envy]

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[Lauren LaRosa]

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[DJ Envy]

You'll talk. LL Cool, bitch.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah. I'm not dumbing myself down. I'm being myself. I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything and everything. Little brown girls look at you and go, I want to be like you. Take me through that. Take me through that.

[DJ Envy]

The latest with Lauren Lenos on the Breakfast Club. LL Cool Baby, talk to me.

[Lauren LaRosa]

All right, y'.

[Kenya Barris]

All.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So yesterday we found out the release date for Drake's Iceman. It'll be releasing on May 15th. So we finally have a date.

[DJ Envy]

Is there any significance to that date?

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm not.

[DJ Envy]

I know five plus one is six.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And then he used the white, blue and red like the icy. No, no, because there is a booklet that came with the whole release and there are some things that little Easter eggs that we're going to get into that you know, people have been out. But the way that it was found. So you remember I told you guys about the huge art installation, the ice installation that Drake put in downtown Toronto. So yesterday, a streamer, his name is Kishka, he was there for a couple days. He climbed on top of this installation. Now, mind y', all, the installation is 15ft high, 20ft long, 15ft wide. It weighs roughly a million pounds. Right? So it's not built for you to just be on top of it. But he's up there and he talks a bit on his stream about how he broke through the ice. Let's take a listen to streamer on how he dug out.

[DJ Envy]

Bro. I used the diamond pickaxe. At first I tried campfires.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Campfires weren't working.

[DJ Envy]

I pulled it yesterday. I'm not gonna lie. I was with an iron pickaxe.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It wasn't working today.

[DJ Envy]

I had to pull out the diamond pickaxe top layer but second row. And it all worked out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, he knew where that was. He knew exactly where that was.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So there have been.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Seemed like it to me.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes, that's what I said. Because all those people that were there the couple days that it was there were up on the top, they were on the bottom, they were everywhere. So how did he know where it was? So there have been some fan pages that have been pointing out the fact that they may. There may have been a clue that was dropped in his stream after there drone that flew over the art installation. But let's get into what he found. So after he found. It was like a blue package, blue bag. Yeah, blue bag. It said freeze the world. So then he's on FaceTime with Aiden Ross, who is a streamer who's friends with Drake, who tells him to go to Drake's home because there's like a gift or a prize there for him, right? So it gets to Drake's house and he opens up this booklet with the May 15 date in it. And in the booklet there's a few things that are happening. So there's like A photo of Drake. Photo Drake's dad. But on one page of the booklet, there's like, the Iceman. And then you have a photo of Sexyy Red, who fans now believe are going to be on Iceman as a feature. I was told that that is definitely something you can look forward to, is her on the project. But on the other side of that, there's a Pinocchio with, like, a sniper target on it. And the Pinocchio he used throughout some of the Iceman, like, the visuals he was dropping. And fans believe that this is pointing to, like, the whole Kendrick Lamar situation and the lies that he alleged were told on him because of the whole pedophile thing. But, yeah, so they.

[DJ Envy]

A lot of Drake fans love when Pinocchio puts their nose in their butt and they lie on purpose.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Hey, yo,

[Kenya Barris]

this guy's crazy.

[Jess Hilarious]

Imagine that.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yo, but Drake was actually at the house. When he pulled up, you got. He was like in a window. He came to the window, and then they brought out some money for him. It was like $50,000 in Canadian money for the streamer. So, I mean, look, now we know when the album is coming, and we potentially know one of the features. From what I was told.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Did Drake come out the house or. No, he didn't come out.

[Lauren LaRosa]

He didn't come out the house. He just. He was in the window, though. Like, you could see him in the window, and he was say something, but you couldn't really hear him because he was kind of far. But yeah, so now we have the date and 50.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

50,000 Canadian dollars is 30. 36,000 U.S. they gave him 36,000 cash.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

The hell. Are you careful. What the hell they care for? They in Canada.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It don't matter. Just. I'm just telling Americans who are listening, what is 50,000 Canada dollars?

[Jess Hilarious]

Okay.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, we'll be honest, man. To all the Drake fan pages and OVO lovers, I see why y' all be in our comments saying all we do is talk about Drake. It really does feel like that. Okay, I get it. Because I don't care about any of this that much. Right? I'm glad that. I'm glad that you want Pinocchio's nose in your butt and you want to lie about it. You want to keep lying and lying and lying so you can feel it in your gut.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He's just one of the biggest rappers ever, sir.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, that's the reason why we're going to be on the album.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You're not going to listen to Iceman when it drops.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, you are.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

A Drake hater.

[DJ Envy]

I'm not a hater. It's just like, okay, he's not going to be running to listen to. No, not at all. Ain't about to run and slip on no ice. No, I'm not about to run and slip on no frozen semen. All right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Jesus Christ.

[DJ Envy]

Because that's what's going to be everywhere. I'm not gonna be able to get

[Charlamagne Tha God]

to the album, but there's a lot of women that love, love Drake, too. It's gonna be a dope album. I'm excited about the project.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah. So yesterday at the close of all this, after we found out the date, I contacted police in Toronto who told me that they had actually shut it down because they were deeming unsafe because the ice started to melt and it was shifting and they didn't want people climbing on it. And then I saw fire trucks come and, like, start to melt the ice. So that's all going away now. It was fun.

[DJ Envy]

Jess, your wig is to the right now.

[Kenya Barris]

It looks fine.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It looks fine.

[DJ Envy]

Thank you.

[Jess Hilarious]

I'm dumb because I looked the first time. Like, what do you mean? Yo, just shut up.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I know the feeling, Jess.

[DJ Envy]

I remember

[Charlamagne Tha God]

now. Also, there was rumors that he's possibly performing at FIFA. Is that true? Did you hear anything about that?

[Lauren LaRosa]

I did see those rumors, but I haven't confirmed anything. But I did see yesterday one of his, like, really close. Those friends posted something about the Scarborough. The Scarborough, the team in Toronto on that same date. So I don't know if they plan to do something with the release there on that date as well, too. But I have heard rumors about the FIFA thing as well too, but nothing that I've been able to confirm.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That'd be huge.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I mean, yeah, but it's Drake, right? So, yeah, I wouldn't be surprised. So we have release date. Something to look forward to. I have a question for y' all as we wrap. So we were talking about this yesterday and we were preparing the. The coverage. Do y' all feel like it's a rollout? So it's supposed to be a bit performative, but do you guys feel like this rollout. Drake was trying. He was more attention seeking than he's been in other rollouts because you don't get any music with this rollout.

[DJ Envy]

I hate when people say that. And the reason I hate when people say that is because that is what roll offs are supposed to do, garner you attention. So if you are getting attention from a rollout, that's a good thing. The Iceman rollout has been great. I think that ain't gonna sit here.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think it hasn't been a dope rollout. I'm just mad that it didn't take a couple extra days. Like, I'm. Yeah, I felt like it should have been there a couple more days with people really, you know, get there to.

[Jess Hilarious]

To do that

[DJ Envy]

music. Wasn't. What was that song? When he had the guns in the video and all that. All of that was. Hey, that was part of the Iceman roll out. But I think he was riding through the city in an ice truck or something like that. Something like that.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I think. I think what I mean is, like, when you think about, like, a God's plan and like, some of the other thing. Remember, he did that in God's plan he gave us. He was like, we had the song in the video. Like, we had something. It was like, it seemed a little bit more in line. It was like, we got that music. And then this whole part of the rollout started. Everything has seemed very, like, compartmentalized. So you can't really.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Also without the record label, right? Because we don't know if the record label is going to support because he's actually suing the label that's supposed to be putting out his music and distributing his music. Right. So this is. We seeing Drake without the label so far. Because this is all Drake.

[DJ Envy]

Yo, Drake fan pages. Y' all are absolutely correct. 10 minutes on Aubrey. God damn. I mean, y' all are right. Yeah, y'. All. Y' all won. Y'.

[Caller/Listener]

All.

[DJ Envy]

Y' all won. Y' all got your OVO lovers. Y' all won, bro. Y' all got it. You know what I mean? Jesus Christ, you ain't even got to get in our comments and say it. Now. Go ahead, clip this up. Y' all won. You're right. The whole 10 minutes on. On Iceman. All I needed to know to come out May 15th. Jesus Christ.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Well, that was the latest.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, God. You over there bricked up. Eli. Look. Eli wiping the. Wiping his chin off.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yo, he said he wore blue today, too.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, well, that was the latest with Laura. Now, when we come back, we have front page news. Mimi will be joining us. And next hour we got more Drake, right?

[DJ Envy]

No.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlamagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page news now, quick.

[Lauren LaRosa]

NBA.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The 76s beat the Celtics 111.97. The Trailblazers beat the Spurs 106, 103. And the Lakers beat the Rockets, 1 019. What's up, Mimi?

[Mimi Brown]

Good morning. MV Josh Charlamagne. How y' all doing?

[DJ Envy]

Peace. Mimi Brown.

[Caller/Listener]

Good morning, girl.

[Mimi Brown]

Morning. So we start this hour with an apology from Tucker Carlson, the former Fox News host now saying he regrets supporting Donald Trump. Let's listen.

[Tucker Carlson]

Supported him. He wrote speeches for him. I campaigned for him. We were implicated in this, for sure. It's not enough to say, well, I changed my mind, or like, oh, this is bad. I'm out. You and me and millions of people like us are the reason this is happening right now. I do think it's like a moment to wrestle with our own consciences. You know, we'll be tormented by it for a long time. I will be. And I want to say I'm sorry for misleading people. It was not intentional. That's all I'll say. But the question does present itself immediately, like, what is this? Was this always the plan? You don't want to be a conspiracy nut, but, like, clearly there were signs of low character. We knew that, but it didn't. There are tons of people of low character who, like, outperform their character.

[DJ Envy]

I mean, listen, he's right. He got cons. The thing I don't agree with is he said it wasn't intentional. It was intentional to push, you know, Donald Trump on America. If you chose to get behind a candidate and endorse a candidate, you were intentional about endorsing that candidate. So you can't say it wasn't intentional. It definitely was intentional.

[Mimi Brown]

Definitely was intentional. Of course, he was one of Trump's biggest supporters. He was pushed out of fox news in 2023 during that. Those voting machines, during the false claims, during the voting machines saga, that scandal. And of course, he later rebuilt his platform as a podcaster, even reconnecting with Trump before now breaking with him publicly again. But I think, you know, when you look at their history, the two of them, back in 2021, Carlson said that he. He hated Trump. He also said that he fails at everything. These are text messages that have been made public. And he also said that he's good at destroying, destroying things. And then back in 2024, apparently, he forgave all that, or that wasn't a big enough deal breaker for him, and he started campaigning for him. And so this is someone who speaks out of both sides of their mouth and has profited from, you know, where we see Trump at now.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah. And I don't know if he's sincere or not, but it doesn't matter. Right. Like, Democrats need to be clipping that and putting it, putting it in campaign ads in the future. Because everywhere. Because the reality is whoever Tucker Carlson pushes for in 2028, you know, if, if it's, if it's still somebody in from, from maga, they should be running ads with Tucker and saying things like, are you going to listen to someone who got it so wrong before?

[Kenya Barris]

Right.

[DJ Envy]

Remember, this is, this, this is the individual who told you to vote for this back in 2024. Now he's telling you to vote for this in 2028. You're gonna listen to him again. So Democrats remember that for campaign ads in the future, please.

[Mimi Brown]

Absolutely, absolutely. All right. And switching gears here a little bit. Have you all ever flown on sp.

[DJ Envy]

Spirit. Spirit owe me money right now. Spirit owe me about 73.96. Booked a flight on Spirit a one way to Los Angeles and they canceled it on a bright and sunny day for no reason. Never got through the customer service. They owe me money right now. I care less about Spirit.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Only flew once cuz I had to. My Delta flight was canceled and I had to fly on that bus in the sky. And I thoroughly was disappointed. I didn't know. First of all, I didn't know it was the first come first serve. You got to run on to get your seat. Like I was confused. People running past me. I'm like, why are they running past me? And they're diving, they're holding seats for, for family members who didn't pay.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, I thought that was Southwest.

[Jess Hilarious]

I didn't know you can do that.

[DJ Envy]

I didn't know that was Spirit. Southwest, the one that you used to pick your speech on. Seats on Southwest. Now Southwest.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm confusing both buses in the sky.

[DJ Envy]

First of all, stop disrespecting buses, all right? Buses are way better than Spirit Airlines.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, damn.

[DJ Envy]

Go ahead, Mimi.

[Jess Hilarious]

I'm sorry anyway, but yeah, I've never flown Spirit ever.

[Mimi Brown]

No. Jaz, you might be the only one out of us that have not flown on Spirit. Well, the low cost budget airline is now asking your help. They need you to help save it. According to reports, Spirit is in serious financial trouble and they are now exploring the idea of using taxpayer money to stay afloat. So the company is already there in bankruptcy for the second time in less than a year. And raising those rising fuel costs from the war in Iran. As we've been talking, they're making things worse. Let's listen to Transportation Secretary Sean Duff.

[DJ Envy]

But the question will Be does the federal government step in and bail out an airline for a very long time? Has it been run well? No decision has been made, but there are real factors. Again, a lot of people work for Spirit. We care about the people that work for Spirit in this industry. But the question will be, will we, can we do anything to save Spirit and make it viable, or would we be putting good money into a company that inevitably is going to be liquidated? First of all, good and good company should never be mentioned when you're talking about Spirit Airlines. They owe me 73.69. I've never flown Spirit because they owe me money from a flight.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wait a minute.

[DJ Envy]

Okay, it was Gonna cost you 73 to fly to. That was the whole thing about Spirit back in the day.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

73.

[DJ Envy]

It was cheap as hell and they just canceled the flight for no reason. So don't piss me off, Transportation Secretary. You're already pissing us off by sending all that money, you know, over to all of these other countries to fund this BS war. Don't give no money to Spirit, okay? I don't want none of my taxpayer dollars going to Spirit.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's a seat. Oh, you got to stand up and hold the thing.

[Jess Hilarious]

That's a little too good to be true, right? 73 flight to fly from coast to coast.

[DJ Envy]

Crazy Back in the day, though.

[Jess Hilarious]

Oh, crazy.

[Mimi Brown]

Well, let me play devil's advocate for a minute because here's why Spirit matters.

[DJ Envy]

Glad you said the devil.

[Kenya Barris]

Go ahead, Shar.

[Mimi Brown]

You know what I mean. So here's. Here's why Spirit matters. Even if you never plan on stepping a on that plane, right? Because those low budget carriers, they tend to bring costs down in the markets that they operate in. So if they go away, then fares will go up for everyone. So for an example, in Minneapolis St. Paul, after Spirit left that area, those fares that had to compete with Delta, now, they went up by 50%. So that means everyone ends up paying more when those low, low cost budget airlines go away. So just something to think about, you know, we've got Southwest, we've got that Spirit, if they do leave those areas.

[Jess Hilarious]

So that's supposed to make us care enough to save Spirit?

[DJ Envy]

Well, I didn't say that.

[Mimi Brown]

I'm just the one giving you all the options. That's it. Really quickly, before we end, I just want to talk about this. Four former presidents, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, Barack Obama and Joe Biden, they sat down for a rare conversation ahead of America's 250th birthday, sharing one message saying that they still believe in this country. At those interviews, they were done by Bush, Bush, Jenna Bush Hager at the History Channel. It's an event that's going to come up focused on the nation's future and asking, you know, each of them what gives them hope. But now, this morning, in that same conversation, former President George W. Bush, he also shared that backstory. Do you remember that? When him and Michelle Obama were sitting next to each other and they were laughing and it kind of went viral, the two of them. Well, he's sharing the backstory behind that. Let's listen really quick.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I was sitting next to Michelle. That's what happened.

[DJ Envy]

That's who I sit next to at funerals.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I was kind of teasing her and stuff. And I slipped her an Altoid. Not as a joke, but I thought she might want one. And I got in the car afterwards and you said, you're trending. I didn't know what trending meant. And it turns out the country is starved to see a white center right Republican and African American center left Democrat having fun and being able to converse not as political figures, but as citizens. And I intend to continue to try to do that.

[DJ Envy]

Who you say that was?

[Mimi Brown]

That was George W. Bush.

[DJ Envy]

George W. Bush, a man who used to be known as the worst president of my lifetime. You remember that? Like, I'm old enough to remember, you know, when George Bush was considered the Antichrist, when he was the one that was leading us into, you know, unjust wars on the false premises of weapons of mass destruction and, you know, when he caused the economy to collapse and, you know, when he had a slow response to Hurricane Katrina. You know, I'm old enough to remember things like the Patriot actor. Okay? When our civil liberties, you know, we're cursed, held. All right, I'm old enough to remember those things. But now, now he's, now he's the old guy that Michelle Obama likes to play with candy from.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, Funerals.

[DJ Envy]

When we have funerals, we always sit there.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, that's what I do. I sit next to Michelle.

[DJ Envy]

I'm old enough to remember. I'm old enough to remember how him ignoring certain intel caused things like 9, 11. Okay? I'm old enough to remember these things, y', all, you know.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, and, and here we are in 2026, so. All right, y'.

[Lauren LaRosa]

All.

[Mimi Brown]

Well, that is your front page news. I'm Mimi Brown. Follow me for more stories and follow me on Instagram Mimi Brown TV.

[DJ Envy]

All right, thank you, Mimi.

[Mimi Brown]

Thank you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn. God's talking to him through him this morning.

[Jess Hilarious]

Oh, yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He said he doesn't. He's not listening unless he hear God's.

[Jess Hilarious]

I just learned a lot, though.

[DJ Envy]

I don't, I don't. That's what happens. What did I say? Other than the truth? Yeah, I didn't say nothing wrong. Just not.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, when we come back, we have Kenya Barris joining us, of course, director, writer. He has a new documentary, Jerry west, the Logo. It's on Prime Video now. And we'll talk to him next. It's the Breakfast Club.

[Caller/Listener]

Good morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building, and he's wearing an athlete chain. Right? There's different types of jewelry. There's an artist chain, and then there's an athlete chain. He's wearing an athlete's chain on right now. Ladies and gentlemen, we have director Kenya Barris here. Welcome.

[DJ Envy]

What up?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How you feeling, man?

[DJ Envy]

I feel good. Expound on that. Now, what's the difference between the athletes and artists?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

There was this thing online that when you see a rapper wear a chain, it doesn't shine like when you see an athlete wear a chain. So, like, if you look at this chain, it's a different glisten, it's different shine and dancing right here. They talking.

[DJ Envy]

So why not just a. With real money chain?

[Lauren LaRosa]

I like that. I like that.

[DJ Envy]

Rappers got real money too, I guess. Debatable. Debatable. Okay, welcome.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So how you feeling?

[Kenya Barris]

I feel good. It's a good stop.

[DJ Envy]

Now, how did they trust a black man with the Jerry west document?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was thinking the same thing.

[Kenya Barris]

The logo, bro, it's, it's crazy. I, I, I, I got the chance to meet him. My manager at the time, Brian Dobbins, was like, he's interviewing people. And I was like, I'm not gonna get this job. So I was like, but I do get the chance to meet Jay West. And so I went in there, and in five minutes, you know, you can tell certain white people when they're comfortable around black people. Yeah, you can tell the moment you sat down. Like, it was like, this dude had no. And, like, we immediately started clicking. And he's just funny. He's just a straight shooter. And he kind of remind you, like, your uncle, you know I'm saying, like, you know, like somebody, like, says what's on their mind? Cussing up a storm. Funny. He was getting off the treadmill. He's 80 years old with weights. He's like, man, I'M so pissed. I was like, I had an injury and I can't run like I used to. And I'm like, if you ever see me on a treadmill with weights, this is my run for the month at 80, if I can do that. So we just hit it off. And I was. I immediately knew I wanted to do whatever to try to get it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Now, how did, how did Jerry west become the logo of the NBA? I'm sure you break it down in the, in the white privilege, but how did that happen? Players in the NBA.

[Kenya Barris]

I said what Charlotte said, right? And that was one of the reasons I want to do it. Because I was like, I always like to try to like make a hip hop. I. I got hypotheses and try to disprove approvement. I was like, this dude was like the one white dude who could play. As I did the documentary, he absolutely earned it. Absolutely positively nobody else should get it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What makes it.

[DJ Envy]

He's like, he's. Well, I was about to say, up until now long, he's probably one of the greatest losers in NBA history. Championship.

[Jess Hilarious]

Damn.

[DJ Envy]

Because he lost what, seven finals.

[Kenya Barris]

Yeah. Went there seven times.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah. And one, one, one.

[Kenya Barris]

But he got there seven times. But like, game wise, like, if you hoop, dude still to this day has the highest points per game, playoff scoring average with no three point line. So that's just going mid range, 12, 15 footers. Hardest shot in the game.

[DJ Envy]

Game.

[Kenya Barris]

And that's just, you know, he wasn't dunking the ball. It's just a dude who could just hoop, you know what I'm saying? And he was leading, almost leading the league in assists. And when I talked to Jordan, that's what kind of changed everything.

[Caller/Listener]

Really.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why?

[Kenya Barris]

Because it was. I'm a fan. I had to like, not fan out when I was sitting down. But Jordan got so serious about Jerry, you. I stopped becoming a fan because you could tell how serious he was about him. And he said like, you know, if for him, like when he sees like his lineage, he said it was Jerry, him and Kobe and like they all were friends. And he was like, but they say. And I kind of immediately saw like they all had that same kind of dog. They would leave it all out in the court, kill you on the court, you know what I'm saying? And that kind of translated into a life. So I was like, it changed how everybody said yes about Jerry. And then everybody kind of had that same sort of story.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, everybody's been talking for the last, I guess, 10 years that the NBA should change the logo to Kobe.

[Kenya Barris]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What's your thoughts on that?

[Kenya Barris]

I think Jerry probably would have been like, yeah, because he loved Kobe so much. I feel like Kobe probably would have been like, no, I think that there's something to Jerry represent. He was there almost from like the nascent when NBA was like 1200 people in the arena to all the way to. That's why we got so many. You know, he had such a through line and I kind of think everything doesn't have to change. You know, I'm saying sometime it's like he represented. He actually earned it. And he was such a statesman as a player, as a coach, as a. As a gm, as an exec. I think that's the right. You know, they don't. I don't think like if. And the only person. I mean, Kobe. Jordan. Jordan.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, Jordan can.

[Kenya Barris]

Because, I mean, it's the shoe.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Kenya Barris]

I'm saying. And I felt like I don't quite know what Kobe's logo would be. I'm saying, is it the jumper? Is it like him saying, what do you represent saying. And I feel like, like they had a bunch of different versions of the logo. And he kind of was. There's a certain elegance to it. And it just represent. I see that. It represents the NBA to me now. Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

And let's be clear. The logo is fire. Let's not act like the NBA log is not fire. But also it's right place, right time. Right. It's 1969. You need a logo for your company. Jerry west does this little lean coming down the court. It just, it makes sense.

[Kenya Barris]

It does, yeah.

[Jess Hilarious]

I'm sorry.

[Kenya Barris]

No, go ahead.

[Jess Hilarious]

Was it easy to get the project green lighted?

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Kenya Barris]

So it went the first. It was at Showtime. Right. And Showtime Sports. And then they, you know, Paramount went through all this stuff. It went away. We got it back. And then it became a bidding war for. For us. And we. Amazon was unbelievably went after it and wanted it. And we love the idea that Amazon had. I just got the playoffs and they really actually understood what we wanted to do. Like, they really got behind us and understood. It's crazy. Like when they get behind stuff, their reach is so far. Everybody thinks Netflix. But Amazon's reach goes far because of what they can sell and NBA and NFL. So it was. It was. I think that was the right place.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Does he get paid off of the logo?

[Kenya Barris]

No, I think that's in the thing. That's what we talked about. They never admitted it before this documentary. They never like Said that he was. Would admit that he was the logo. And I think it was because David Stern was like, if we say he's the logo and we haven't paid him, we got to write him a check. Like, that's a. If he wanted to go back, that's a check. Check. And so they never, you know, wanted to do it. But then Adam Silver just being cool and, like, loving Jerry and knowing the family, and, you know, Jerry didn't. Jerry liked it and didn't like it, and so you knew. They finally admitted it, and, you know, it's. It's a.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's an honor, but they didn't cut up a check. They just admitted it.

[Kenya Barris]

And, I mean, not my knowledge. I'm saying I think the family is like, just the. The honor itself is enough, you know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Did he see the finished project before he passed?

[Kenya Barris]

No, he did see. He did see some things, and we, you know, went over clips and he saw things. He. He didn't. He would not have wanted to see it. He would. Until the. He didn't like seeing himself. You know, I'm saying on camera, stuff like that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who's the most interesting person that you spoke with during the documentary? Because you spoke to it with Shaq. You spoke to Steph, spoke to Kareem. You spoke to Mike.

[Kenya Barris]

Madge was match. Because I think Mike or MJ or Madge.

[DJ Envy]

Why?

[Kenya Barris]

Well, Mike, because.

[DJ Envy]

Who's Madge? Magic. Oh, you must go on the boat with him on the summer.

[Kenya Barris]

We grew up with Magic. He's Jim or he's mad, you're saying. But, like, one. Because he went through what he went through, you know what I'm saying?

[DJ Envy]

Like, another three letters. Yes. the time, those were the letters.

[Kenya Barris]

Everybody my age remembers where they were at. When. When Magic got and said that thing, I was sitting with my dad, and we were, like, watching, like, what I'm saying, like. And you.

[DJ Envy]

At that point, you thought what your dad really say. Because I know what my dad said.

[Kenya Barris]

He was.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You can't say those words either anymore.

[DJ Envy]

No, he ain't say the words. But the truth to the matter is, a lot of older men, especially older than me, my dad then was like. They immediately thought he was gay.

[Kenya Barris]

Yeah, everybody. And we also thought he was gonna die. Yes.

[DJ Envy]

Yes.

[Kenya Barris]

Yeah. That was the biggest thing I'm saying. It was like the idea of, like, he's not gonna make it.

[Caller/Listener]

You know what I'm saying?

[Kenya Barris]

And to see that he's not only that, he's become a multi billionaire, multiple team owner, super businessman. Like that, but.

[DJ Envy]

But probably healthier than us, probably.

[Kenya Barris]

You know what I'm saying? Like, and. But to see him have as much love and affinity as he did for. For Jerry and to tell that story, he kind of started getting Terry because, like, that was one of the first people he told. And so that was a really. You know, I really appreciated him being honest and so just transparent with that. And then Mike just. Mike doesn't talk to a lot of people. And, like, the way Mike, you know, he went over in time and just, you know, the idea, like, he was like, I would have loved to play Jerry. I'm saying, like, I think we would have had a great get. Like, just hearing those two dudes from work for where they're at talk about this, man. They don't have. They have. No. And everybody. You know, when you're doing documentaries, you got to get people schedule and time, and it's not even people, like, not wanting to do it sometimes. It's, like, lining stuff up. Everybody said yes. I'm saying. And I was shocked at how many people said yes.

[Caller/Listener]

This.

[DJ Envy]

Let's talk about Kenya, man. Do you feel more powerful now? Responsible?

[Kenya Barris]

I feel more. I feel scared, really, because we're in a different age now. Like, it's like. I'm sure y' all feel it in here, you know, I'm saying, like, you just feel like you could just say whatever you want. You've had this show long enough where you should be, but you now. Do you second guess yourself sometimes?

[Jess Hilarious]

I'm scared every day.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

I'm not scared. I'm not. No, not because of that, because I think it's because I feel more responsible.

[Kenya Barris]

But. But you always have felt like that's always been like, you wanted to carry the people, do this, and. But now there's an attack. And that used to be. Used to be kind of quiet. Now it's like an openness to, like, you know, I'm saying, like, shut up. You know, I'm saying, like, they don't even care. Like, they're like, the idea of the environment we're in now, we've. I've never seen. We were just talking in the green room about, you know, President. President putting himself as Jesus. You know, I'm saying Easter Day tweets, USC fights on the lawn, and, you know, open opens openly saying ndei. I'm saying, like, that used to be kind of whispers and, like, the. They don't whisper it anymore. I'm saying. So if you're in a situation.

[DJ Envy]

I was.

[Kenya Barris]

I Was I big up to you? When I saw you guys on Netflix number one, I was like, that's. That's so important. You know, I'm saying, when you see those moments of, like, us winning in places where we're amongst everybody else, that's why Coogler was so important. Absolutely. I'm saying Coogler was my hero because what he did with Panther and then everything he touches, he takes his time, does one thing at a time, which I need to do more, but takes his time. There's one thing. And does it to such a high level, but he's telling our stories. And, you know, that's pissing people off, saying, and. But I think that's to do. You have to sort of, like, make sure if you're going to do it, you do it the best you can.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Do you look for those pieces now, like, those pieces that mean more than just making a check.

[Kenya Barris]

Yes. 100.

[DJ Envy]

I think if you made all the money now.

[Kenya Barris]

Yeah. I mean, not only that, but you want to keep making the money goes away, you know what I'm saying? And I feel like the. The thing that will last is, like, people say you do good work, you know what I'm saying? And that's why you. When you guys went over and it's like all of a sudden, it's like, well, is this happening or is this dropping off or not? You know what I'm saying? I think you guys went to bet for a second, you know what I'm saying?

[DJ Envy]

We've done this a few times. We was on Revolt first, then we was on Bet, then we. To be. To be, and then now.

[Kenya Barris]

And I feel like being at the number one place and being number one in that thing, it matters not just for being around, but for the longevity and the legacy of what you do. Because it's like, you never know when you make that leap, if you're making a leap and you're like, I should just stay where I was at. So, yeah, I think the idea now is, like, I want to do stuff that matters. I want to do stuff that, like, has a voice. I'm doing a movie with Tiana out here. It's her directorial debut. I want her to kill it. Like, I want her to sort of like she's taking a pay cut, this cut, because she cares about this movie. So I feel like I gotta care about her, you know what I'm saying, and get her through. And I want it to be dope, you know what I'm saying? So I feel like that's the next thing is like, really sort of like making sure everything I do, I recently at least try to make it, though.

[DJ Envy]

It's interesting what you said about, you know, because of the era that we're in with the Trump era. I feel like that's when you should be. You should be louder. You know what I mean? Like, like when the president called me out, I was like, good.

[Kenya Barris]

What did he say?

[DJ Envy]

He said I was a racist sleaze bag with a low iq.

[Jess Hilarious]

Wow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You say dumb idiots short.

[DJ Envy]

He didn't say a lot of other stuff, but the gist of it was I was a racist sleeve man with low iq. And it's funny because whenever I critique him now, and they, they, they, they asked the White House, the White House just says, refer back to that post from August of 2025. But I feel like you should do that. Like, and, And I, and I made the comments I made on Fox News right, with. With Laura Ingram, his stepdaughter. I feel like you supposed to do that.

[Kenya Barris]

I left Blackish because of him.

[DJ Envy]

Tell the story.

[Kenya Barris]

I mean, that was. That would happen when I left.

[DJ Envy]

I've heard about this before.

[Kenya Barris]

He. They were, I'm, you know, basically the. Some people who were higher ups. Not Bob Iger. Bobberger is cast as a CEO, his best CEO ever. But through higher up were the. The merger between Fox and Disney was about, and it had to get needed presidential approval. And we had done an episode that talked about him and they were afraid that he was petty enough to not. If we aired it, to not let the merger go through. And I was like, that's not how this works. I'm saying, like, I went through all the approvals that the episode's ready to air. It went through all the checks. And I was like, I was like, you put. You're making. This is not fair to the people who watch this show. I'm saying. And so I was like, I don't. I can't be here anymore. I was like, it felt like censorship. And Iger supported me. I'm saying in a way he didn't have to. He was like, he has reported the idea that they didn't have to let me out of my deal, but they did. And I feel like he put up my, you know, saying, you know, it's like crazy. I have a tweet where he was like, blackish. This is awful. Could you imagine if they had a show called Whitish? I'm saying, and I'm over back there. It's called Friends. I'm saying, like, the idea but it was those moments I remember I had got audited. I'm saying, like, those little. Little things, like, is this on accident? So I just feel like you're in a diff. We're in a different. They're. They're coming back. They're attacking. They feel like they're in a different place and they can do whatever they want.

[DJ Envy]

And. And that's why you was able to still be at ABC but didn't go negotiate with Netflix and everything else.

[Kenya Barris]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Wow.

[Kenya Barris]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

They didn't want you to blow up their spot probably back then, because you couldn't prove that.

[Kenya Barris]

No, but it was. It would have.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Kenya Barris]

And I had nothing. I didn't want to hurt Bob or hurt any other people there. You know what I'm saying? But I also didn't feel right being there if I couldn't tell the story the way that I thought we should be telling it. So I wanted to go somewhere else. And Netflix was.

[Caller/Listener]

Was.

[Kenya Barris]

Was open to do that.

[DJ Envy]

And it was. It was an episode about Colin Kaepernick, I heard.

[Kenya Barris]

Yeah. It was coming, but he was in it. But it was episode. It really was about the kneeling and how crazy the kneeling was way before the Floyd thing happened and how the sort of celestial irony of that. That's what he was, you know, saying neely. And then someone kneels. Like, the idea of, like. I was like, nobody's not on. People are talking about that. And so that was really what it was about. And he just. We were just afraid that it would

[DJ Envy]

piss him off and caused the merger between Disney and Fox not to go through.

[Kenya Barris]

Yeah. At that time. Which was the biggest merger in entertainment history.

[DJ Envy]

Wow. You were smart, though, the way you played it.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Kenya Barris]

Oh, I came up. I was like, oh, this played out. This worked.

[DJ Envy]

You still had everything. You had all the issues with abc.

[Kenya Barris]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

And then you had all your Netflix stuff going on.

[Kenya Barris]

It worked.

[DJ Envy]

Wow.

[Kenya Barris]

But, I mean, but it didn't have. I remember being in my office, like, I'm blowing my career. I remember coming home, my kids were like, are you okay? Because you. I didn't know that was gonna happen. Like, it could have went anyway.

[DJ Envy]

Why'd you feel like he was blowing your career?

[Kenya Barris]

Because it could have went anyway. I'd have a job. I didn't know I had a job. When I said I quit, I'm saying. Or I said I didn't want to do this. I didn't know I had a job, and I didn't know what was gonna happen. But it was. It worked out. And, and the show went on for a long time and, you know, and Anthony and Tracy blew up and like they, you know, kept doing. But I feel like it was. For me, I was, you know, I was scared.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Would you do another show like that, that shows black families?

[Kenya Barris]

I wanted to and I did. I mean, it was different. I was a little bit more like edgy and stuff, like. But I wanted to just go back to like talking about stuff.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, I mean, I talk about it all the time. I came from, of course, the Cosby show in a different world era. And I tell everybody all the time the reason I went to Hampton was because it reminded me of a different world. The reason I do some of the things with my kids now is because I remember the Cosby show, how it made me feel. And I would just feel like we missed a lot of that, seeing that on television.

[Kenya Barris]

Yeah, I wanna, I wanna do it again. I wanna. There's one. I want to do something about being. Going through a divorce and maybe not knowing if you want to get divorced. I'm saying, like, called don't go outside. Like, but, but because I think so many kids deal with divorce and you don't really see the effect, you know, I'm saying it had particularly on my sons. For me, I'm saying. And I feel like. And then your wife has a glow up, you know, I'm saying I'm like every black woman after she gets divorced gets better looking, I'm saying. And you look out and you're like, it's same hoes, different clothes out there. And I had a moment when I got divorced and I was like going through all these stats of like, there was a stat going around, like if you're over six feet, you know, not morbidly obese, and make over this year in the 3 percentile of the dating pool. And I was like, what if you're black? I was like, you know, And I was like, I'm gonna be a unicorn. And then I got out there and I was like, what am I doing? And then I went back and I was trying to get back, and she was like, well, here's a stat I have for you. Did you know that men on average who get divorced live five years less and women on average divorce live five years longer? You can pick up the kids Friday at 5.

[DJ Envy]

Damn.

[Kenya Barris]

So I mean, I wanted, I wanted to. I mean, I, I miss, I do miss that about network television or like how you guys can get on every day and like be topical. Network television felt topical. It felt like, you could kind of be in the conversation and actually talk about stuff that people were going through. So I do miss that.

[DJ Envy]

But do you think TV still has that power in the screaming era, or has the culture moved to social media and stuff like podcasts and Breakfast Club, things like that?

[Kenya Barris]

I think podcasts are the most powerful venue in the world in terms of entertainment, because. Which you can do in terms of being topical. They put Trump, Trump in office. Like, you know, I'm saying a lot of the podcasters had a lot to do with, you know, Aiden Ross and stuff.

[DJ Envy]

Like, I don't believe that.

[Kenya Barris]

I do.

[DJ Envy]

I, I, I think we give, I'm not gonna say that they didn't have some type of influence, but, man, we give them way too much credit. I think it was more about what Democrats weren't doing in that moment as opposed to what a bunch of podcasters did.

[Kenya Barris]

Well, I, I think the Democratic Party has to start getting some. On some real walks. I'm saying, I feel like we, the whole, it was a great statement that Michelle Obama said when she was like, they, when they go high, we might need to go low sometime too. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, you gotta fight with who you're fighting with. But I feel like podcasters, I was talking to someone, they were talking about Kai, and they were like, Leonardo DiCaprio can walk down the street, so whatever. But when Kai walks down the street, people feel like they know him differently. You know, I'm saying. And there's a different, like, relationship. They don't feel like he's. And I think that is more relationship that meat reaches, like voters and the people, you know, I'm saying. And I feel like it is. There is nothing on every day that people can, like, everyone goes with. Something's happening. They come to see what y' all are talking about today. If y' all are gonna talk about who you have on. They're not. If you've gotta do that in streaming, you gotta wait three months, five months, six months, because it can't. Network television used to be able to keep up with it, but there's nothing now that, like, lets you keep up with up with it. Like, you guys get to do what you want to do. Like, you know, I'm saying you've now been through it enough. You get to do what you want to do. Like, they can't. I mean, I'm talking about jeans, but they can't cancel you. You know what I'm saying? Like, you're, you can go to Your platform and you have an audience whether works enough or you'll figure something else. So I think that's. We need more of is like. So you can go do it and do it a little bit fearlessly, even though you still got to be scared, but you can do a little bit fear.

[DJ Envy]

I. I enjoy the Netflix thing, but I think, you know, what we do is unique because video is just one part of the way people consume us. So we can take chances with the video.

[Kenya Barris]

Right.

[DJ Envy]

Because our primary is radio.

[Kenya Barris]

You guys edit that show. As far as what on Netflix, is it edited or is it. Is it the same show we're used to?

[DJ Envy]

Oh, it's the same show.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But the only difference is we got to take out music and commercials and things like that. Of course.

[Caller/Listener]

Okay.

[DJ Envy]

You won't see that, but it's the same content. We're not even like. Like, right now we're being recorded. If it wasn't on Netflix, it would have been on YouTube.

[Kenya Barris]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

But the primary is radio.

[Kenya Barris]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

So you got tens of millions of people listening to you talk on the air right now. Then we distribute it as an audio podcast. Then we put clips on YouTube and social media and give the full.

[Kenya Barris]

Have you guys ever thought about doing this as a scripted show?

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, that'd be great.

[Kenya Barris]

Can you remember Larry Sanders?

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah.

[Kenya Barris]

I think the. The idea of a scripted version of a podcast that everybody knows, but, like, the behind the scenes, the, like, guests coming on, you know, saying, like. And have something. I just think that something like that could be. I would watch that. And I think that's an example of, like, how you cross, how you bridge the two things. I'm saying, like, the idea of that becomes an idea because people don't understand, really, how podcasting actually works. They think you just said, I'll do it, but it's bigger than that. You know what I'm saying? It's the prep. It's the behind the scenes. It's the politics. You're saying, but. And I think if you did it and made it funny. I'm just pitching the show for myself, for you guys.

[Jess Hilarious]

Nice.

[DJ Envy]

But no, you're right. Like, it is. It is a lot that goes on behind the scenes. But also I've been telling people, man, with the podcasters, to me, that's the next level. Right. Because they're already cre. They're already the. This generation's stars.

[Kenya Barris]

Right.

[DJ Envy]

So what Theo Von just did this weekend.

[Kenya Barris]

Yeah, this weekend he put.

[DJ Envy]

He produced his own film. He paid for it called Bus Boys with Him and he put like $3 million of his own money up. Came out in theaters Friday and it debuted at like number nine. Made $1.7 million. But the fact that he was able to say, I'm a comedian, I got a podcast. I'm gonna do a film now because I want to give my audience a different. Another form of content. I think that's where you got to go with it.

[Kenya Barris]

Me and Drew Ski are doing a movie together.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, really?

[Kenya Barris]

We, we, we. I'm not gonna say where it's at yet because. But we think we know everyone. But it's based off of one of his concepts and Church get skirt.

[DJ Envy]

Church skit.

[Kenya Barris]

It's about a funeral home.

[DJ Envy]

Funeral home, funeral home.

[Kenya Barris]

But then he has his Talladega nights where he wants to play the black car driver, the white car driver, and this. I'm Drew. Don't be around.

[DJ Envy]

Drew Ski is way too big to be in any goddamn body. But that.

[Kenya Barris]

But he. I think Drew Ski is. And I think he's one of the dudes. Like, I think he's Martin Lawrence, Jim Carrey, Mike Myers, Eddie Murphy. He's one of the few dudes who can like character act, getting those characters. I'm saying. And I think that that's thing. But I do think people podcasting is the biggest thing in the world right now. And I think the idea of like people understanding and bridging out is a. Is the next form of it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Kenya, Gotta go. So we appreciate you for joining us.

[Kenya Barris]

Thank you so much.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Definitely check out the logo. It's available on prime right now. And thank you so much, brother.

[DJ Envy]

Always great to meet you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Kenya Barris. It's the breakfast love.

[Kenya Barris]

Good morning.

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[Lauren LaRosa]

It's Lauren LaRosa. Okay, let's talk curls for a second. Cause you already know if you have curly or coily hair. Moisture is not optional, it's essential. Dryness is one of the biggest challenges for curly hair and most products they clock out after wash day. The new Ultra Moisture collection was literally designed with our hair in mind. Curls, coils, all of it powered by potato oil and Jamaican Black castor oil. Which means the science is actually doing the work. Clinically proven to help retain moisture for up to five days. Five whole days. The shampoo gently cleanses without stripping. The mask deeply, conditions and helps reduce breakage. The leave in adds a lightweight hydration with hyaluronic acid. And the curl cream defines without crunch. No sulfates, no parabens, no silicones, no mineral oils. Just nourishment without the compromise. Because here's the thing, your hair deserves products that actually understand it. Moisture that starts at the root and keeps going. Well past Sunday, that's the Ultra Moisture collection from Cantu Explore their full line built for every curl pattern, every hair routine. Available now at Walmart, Target and Amazon. Go get it. Okay, so quick behind the scenes moment about my business because people always ask me like how do I actually run everything? So Shopify is literally the platform where I turned this tiny idea into a business. Before this, I was really just like popping up at any in person event, any vending opportunity I could, which I still do. But I wasn't really as focused online, I was like, you know, the websites are going to be too much to build out. I'm not like a super techie person, even though I can make things cute. And I didn't want to put up a website that would run my customers away. I wanted it to be efficient, to be easy. And Shopify helped me build brown girlgrinding.com out. Once I switched to Shopify, it finally clicked like, okay, I can actually do this. It's not about it being tough. It's about using the right platform to make it easy. Shopify takes all of the guesswork out. I build my own store, I manage my community, own my own customer relationships. Plus, this is my favorite thing. Shopify gets my products everywhere. I'm able to link stuff through Google, YouTube, TikTok, Shop the Shop app, even Chat, GPT and Instagram, which is very important for me. And Shopify's AI co founder sidekick, game changer, let me tell y', all, right? So it's helped me not only optimize my site, it helps me look at my sales trends, it updates my product skills, all the stuff I'm absolutely not an expert in. But it's like having a genius business partner that never sleeps. And right now the Bronco grinding storefront and the Black Effect storefront is busy and Shopify is handling all of the heavy lifting. I love that for us. I am pumped, like so pumped that Shopify is going to show up at the Black Effect Podcast festival this year in a big way. And I will be there pretty reaching this platform to all of the small black owned businesses that partner with us. So if you've been sitting on an idea or if you're ready to scale, which you've already started, this is your sign. Go to shopify.com Ben if I can do it, you can do it too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let's get to the latest with Lauren.

[DJ Envy]

You'll talk. LL Cool Yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm not dumbing myself down. I'm being myself. I'm the home girl that knows, knows a little bit about everything and everything. Little brown girls look at you and go, I want to be like you.

[Caller/Listener]

Take me through that.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Take me through that.

[DJ Envy]

Where she going? The latest with Lauren Melos on the Breakfast Club. LL Cool Baby talk. Talk to me.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So Teyana Taylor, real quick, a congratulations to her because it was announced yesterday that she is the new face of Revlon's super lustrous lipstick. This is a part of their be Unforgettable campaign, which is a really big deal to get a beauty campaign. She now joins Revlon brand ambassador alum like Halle Berry. And she as, as you know, the ambassador, she'll just do like the photo shoots and she'll, you know, go around and travel and talk about the brand and get to be a face as she has conversations about what it's like to be an unforgettable woman and the woman that came before her. So congratulations to Tiana.

[DJ Envy]

Drop on the Clues bombs with Tiana Taylor. And as you heard Kenya Barris just say, Tiana Taylor's making her directorial debut in a film called Get Light that Storms. That stars Storm Reed. She got a lot going on. A lot going on.

[Lauren LaRosa]

She just did People's Most Beautiful magazine issue as well, too. She portrayed Janet Jackson as well, which is a big deal. That's a huge issue for them as well.

[Jess Hilarious]

Ate it down.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Just getting started, man. Like, Tiana has not scratched the surface of how good she is artistically.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Love to see it. Well, in other news, we. We've been talking a bit about the Michael Jackson biopic and yesterday.

[Jess Hilarious]

Biopic.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Biopic. Biopic. I always get that wrong. Y.

[DJ Envy]

Yesterday. Correct you. That's crazy.

[Jess Hilarious]

Please shut up.

[Lauren LaRosa]

She always do it on that word. That's the one. That's the one she got.

[DJ Envy]

That's crazy.

[Lauren LaRosa]

All right, so yesterday there were some early predictions that came out that I thought were amazing, but it's. I mean, it's Michael Jackson. So yesterday it was announced that Michael Jackson is the. The biopic. Biopic is going to be the highest. It's predicted to be the highest grossing opening for all biopics of. Of its time. It's being predicted that this movie will make anywhere from 85 million to $150 million at its opening.

[Jess Hilarious]

Damn.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah. And that's just a prediction, but they're predicting that based on how they, you know, see people coming out to the theaters. And this is via Deadline and global box office.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I can't wait to see it.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, me neither. Because I'm seeing a lot of mixed reviews and I don't want.

[Kenya Barris]

I don't want to.

[DJ Envy]

I don't want to listen to anybody. I want to see it for myself. Because I'm wondering if people are. Because we love Michael Jackson.

[Mimi Brown]

Right?

[DJ Envy]

Nothing's going to stop you from loving Michael Jackson. Nothing's going to stop you from, you know, loving his music. Right? Yeah. But does that mean the movie is good? Like, you might go there and get caught up in your fandom, but is the movie good?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, a lot of. I've seen a lot of Ratings that said they didn't love it. But I want to see it for myself. Like Charlamagne said, I'm gonna go see it for myself. Regardless of what people say, regardless of how many tomatoes it gets and all that other ish. I'm gonna go check it out myself. And I think the biggest complaint I see people, I think they thought the negativity was gonna be in there.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And it's not. And people are like, oh, where's that?

[Lauren LaRosa]

So let's.

[DJ Envy]

Let's.

[Jess Hilarious]

Damn. So people was going to the movie to see the negativity.

[DJ Envy]

I don't know. You know, I'm not gonna say negativity, but for me, I would have liked to see them clear up a lot of the things that I feel have been false about Michael for years. If the FBI investigates you for 17 years and they don't find anything, you're clean.

[Jess Hilarious]

Right?

[DJ Envy]

Right, right.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So Rotten Tomatoes, what you guys are referencing is at first, yesterday, the Rotten Tomatoes score dropped after the world premiere in Berlin, and it was listed as 27%. I checked this morning, is now at 35% with only 101 reviews. And I did read some of the reviews, and they point to the fact that, yes, they wanted to see Call, like the darker side of Michael Jackson. So they feel like the. The movie wasn't full. But, I mean, like, we've had the conversations too, and I've seen the reports about the reshoots and things being taken out of the movie. And Antoine Fuqua, who was the director of the film, he made a. A pretty clear statement about that over this last week as things have been premiering. He said, when I hear things about us black people in particular, especially in certain positions, there's always a pause. He was talking to the New Yorker. He said that he's skeptical of some of the accuser's parents, particularly, you know, one of the gentlemen, Chandler, and that, you know, he just doesn't know all the truth behind allegations. But people do crazy things from. For money. And there were reports that there were certain scenes that were in the film that were taken out that caused really expensive reshoots. And now we have the final production, so we'll. I mean, we're going to see it regardless.

[Jess Hilarious]

What is the premiere date again?

[Lauren LaRosa]

The premiere date is April 24th. I. Yeah, we'll be in Atlanta. But I got tickets in Atlanta.

[Jess Hilarious]

You said April 24th?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah. This weekend. It's Friday.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, it's this weekend.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Him.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, I'm.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm gonna take the family. I'm Just gonna wait. I was gonna go, but I'm. I think the whole family would love to see it. My kids would definitely love to see it.

[Jess Hilarious]

So.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And I think another part of it, too. When you listen to the family talk about the premiere and talk about Michael Jackson, their biggest thing is wanted to humanize him and not look at. Not look at this as like Michael Jackson, the King of Pop, but like, as a human. And I know Jafar Jackson, who is his nephew, who plays him, was clearing up some of the misconceptions around Michael Jackson. Let's take a listen.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I always say the performance of not just doing the moves, but really owning

[Jess Hilarious]

the moves and making it your own,

[Charlamagne Tha God]

where it feels like it's the foundation is coming from you. And that took me a long time, and I still feel I didn't really nail it like I wanted to in

[DJ Envy]

certain things, but in my mind, I

[Charlamagne Tha God]

always drew to how am I feeling afterwards?

[DJ Envy]

Or how am I feeling during the performance?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And sometimes I wouldn't even realize I did certain things. And that's when I knew I. In a flow state. I'm not thinking so much. I'm just allowing the music to dictate what I should do, which I knew. I know Michael would always say that, so I wanted to strive for that.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah. The people who saw the movie said he did a good job. They said. They said he did a. A very good job. That's really good.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, even if he missed some steps, I mean, it's Michael.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The greatest.

[Jess Hilarious]

Not Michael. So I, you know, ultimately, he's not Michael.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So, I mean, regardless, we're going to go see it, so we'll do that.

[DJ Envy]

Definitely going to go see it. But I. I can understand people's no criticism because I. I wanted to see. I don't know if they do. Do they acknowledge in the movie about how he owned half of the music industry's public?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We don't know.

[DJ Envy]

I feel like that was one of the reasons he was targeted so much.

[Jess Hilarious]

And then I wonder where it starts. Like, where does it start? When he was younger, does it like. Okay, so when it was Jackson 5. That's how. That's how.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

I don't know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But the dope thing about it, I'm seeing a lot more clips of Michael Jackson. I don't know if y' all seen the clip of him and. And Janet sitting in the kitchen writing screen.

[Jess Hilarious]

No, I didn't see.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I think one of them cursing like, no, mom's gonna be mad if we curse. But that Grown adult notes like. I love seeing those clips come pop back up, too.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Well, one of the things that they did actually talk about what's actually in the movie, that they did actually addresses in the movie is Michael Jackson and everybody thinking that he wanted to be white. Let's take a listen to Jafar.

[DJ Envy]

The biggest misconception of your uncle is

[Charlamagne Tha God]

the biggest misconception, I would say, that

[DJ Envy]

he wanted to be Wyatt.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's a big misconception. Misconception. And that this film gives you that understanding of what that is, you know, with that. That vinyligo played a part in his life and not a lot of people really understand what that is. And he was dealing with that from an early age.

[DJ Envy]

See, I'm interested in that.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

See, that's interesting.

[Jess Hilarious]

Definitely.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But you have to go. If you're gonna talk about that, you gotta go deeper.

[Caller/Listener]

Right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because he married a white woman, he had white kids and all that other stuff. But that was part of the reason why people thought he wanted to be white because they felt like he always shifted to the white side.

[DJ Envy]

Maybe they addressed that in the movie.

[Caller/Listener]

Hopefully.

[DJ Envy]

That's a. That's a. That's. Those are good points, though.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah. I think it's just. We go see it and then we'll be able to have a full conversation. I also think it's unfair that. That it's only 101 reviews here and that number spread so far. And you know, they're suggesting, whether you go see it or not, we come. We coming out in our jackets.

[DJ Envy]

The moral of the story for me is I just. I don't believe Michael touched none of them kids. Okay. And I would like to see some of that cleared up in the movie.

[Lauren LaRosa]

He died as a legally innocent man.

[DJ Envy]

Yes, he did.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

That was the lady.

[DJ Envy]

They want to come out with documentaries after the fact. Okay.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

I don't believe Michael diddled. None of them sharing diddled.

[Jess Hilarious]

Anyway. Happy birthday, Jack Nicholson. He is 89 years old.

[DJ Envy]

Did y' all know that?

[Caller/Listener]

That.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No.

[Jess Hilarious]

Jack Nicholson, 89. He will be 90 next year doing his thing. Well, yeah, but, you know, I bet they didn't know that we was done. Y' all know I always say happy birthday to the people.

[DJ Envy]

Crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

My favorite part was cut off that black brother. Just talk.

[DJ Envy]

I'm happy. I'm glad Jack Nicholas is still alive at 89. I hope to live that long, too. Cut off Michael. Michael's no longer here. He had the biopic coming out Friday. You just interrupted him to scream out

[Charlamagne Tha God]

so much influence like A huge star.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Happy birthday, Jack Nicholson. You the birthday your way just shifted

[DJ Envy]

back to the left, too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Recipes.

[DJ Envy]

Michael.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I know we got the dog today coming up.

[DJ Envy]

Yes, four after the hour. We need Tucker Carlson to come to the front of the congregation. We'd like to have a word with him, please.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, well, since there's no Jack Nicholson music, we're gonna play some Michael Jackson.

[DJ Envy]

Play some Michael. What we got? What are we playing? We got off the wall.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Off the wall. Yes, we do.

[DJ Envy]

Let's go.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right. It's the Breakfast Club. Come on.

[DJ Envy]

It's a bunch of donkeys around here. It's time for Donkey of the Day.

[Caller/Listener]

I got the donkey of the Day.

[DJ Envy]

They made me the donkey of the day by the things that I said.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn Charlemagne.

[DJ Envy]

Some donkey Today's just sell himself it was you.

[Jess Hilarious]

What accountability are you taking?

[DJ Envy]

I made dunkey today. The Breakfast Club.

[State Farm Announcer]

That being said, I want to start

[Kenya Barris]

off with this donkey right here.

[Caller/Listener]

Right here.

[DJ Envy]

Hey, donkey. Today for Wednesday, April 22, goes to Tucker Carlson. Tucker Carlson, formerly of Fox News. We don't even have to say that anymore. He's completely carved out his own lane. He's just an American or Russian. Allegedly political commentator who hosts Tucker on X and the Tucker Carlson Show. We all know Tucker Carlson was a huge supporter of Donald Trump during the 2024 campaign and his previous campaigns. You would often see Tucker right by Donald Trump. At the Republican National Convention in Milwaukee, Tucker Carlson described Trump as the funniest person he's ever met in his life. Tucker said he is a wonderful person. He knows him well. Okay? According to the New York Times, when Donald Trump was shot in the air, allegedly at a rally in Pennsylvania, Tucker was the first person to meet him. All I'm trying to tell you is Tucker Carlson was a huge supporter of Donald Trump, but not anymore. Okay. In an episode of his podcast released Monday, he seems to have severed ties with the president and says he is tormented by his past support of Donald Trump. Let's go to. What's that? CNN CNN. Let's go to CNN and listen, please.

[Tucker Carlson]

We'll be tormented by it for a long time. I will be.

[DJ Envy]

And.

[Tucker Carlson]

And I want to say I'm sorry for misleading people in. It was not intentional. That's all I'll say.

[DJ Envy]

Tucker Carlson apologized on his podcast for

[Lauren LaRosa]

his part in helping to get President Donald Trump elected during an interview with

[DJ Envy]

his brother, Buckley Carlson.

[Tucker Carlson]

You and I and everyone else who supported him. You wrote speeches for him. I campaigned for him. I mean, we're implicated in this for sure. You and me and millions of people like us are the reason this is happening right now.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Carlson has been publicly criticizing Trump over the Iran war. He recently called out Trump's Easter Truth Social post in which the president threatened to destroy Iran's bridges and power plants and demanded that they, quote, open the f cking street. Trump later insulted Carlson, citing polling about his popularity.

[DJ Envy]

He posted to Truth Social saying, quote,

[Lauren LaRosa]

tucker is a low IQ person, always

[DJ Envy]

easy to beat, and highly overrated.

[Lauren LaRosa]

The Dominion case revealed that in 2021, Carlson had privately said, I hate him passionately.

[DJ Envy]

Still, these comments are a far cry from the 2024 election where Carlson praised

[Lauren LaRosa]

and campaigned for Trump and Donald Trump,

[DJ Envy]

whatever you say about him, and I

[Tucker Carlson]

think he's a wonderful person. I know him well, by the way. The funniest person I've ever met in my life, actually.

[DJ Envy]

He actually cares. He was lying, the man. You already said privately that he hated him with a passion. But listen, here's the thing. The truth is the truth, okay? If that's his truth, I have no problem with him telling the world that, okay? We've all been there, all right? I had biased remorse over Joe Biden, especially when I realized he had no intention of being a one term president. As soon as I saw him saying he wanted to run again, I was like, absolutely not, because this man is not going to beat Donald J. Trump if he runs again. And beating Trump should have been the ultimate priority. But that's another conversation for another day. I'm just simply saying I regretted my support of a candidate before and expressed it. So if Tucker wants to do that, good, okay. I see people debating if he's sincere or not by humble. Okay, listen, it doesn't matter. This is politics. Democrats got what they need. Can we listen to the clip again? Just, just a clip of him apologizing.

[Tucker Carlson]

Supported him. You wrote speeches for him.

[DJ Envy]

I campaigned for him.

[Tucker Carlson]

I mean, we're implicated in this for sure. It's not enough to say, well, I changed my mind, or like, oh, this is bad, I'm out. You and me and millions of people like us are the reason this is happening right now. I do think it's like a moment to wrestle with our own consciences. You know, we'll be tormented by it for a long time. I will be. And I want to say I'm sorry for misleading people. It was not intentional. That's all I'll say. But the question does present itself immediately, like, what is this? Was this always the plan? You don't want to be a conspiracy Nut. But, like, clearly there were signs of low character. We knew that, but it didn't. There are tons of people of low character who, like, outperform their character.

[DJ Envy]

See, it doesn't matter if he's sincere. Democrats got what they need. They should be clipping that up and getting ready to run that in campaign ads for the midterms and in 20, 20, 28. Because I don't think Tucker would ever endorse a Democrat or an independent. He's going to stick to Republicans. He's going to stick to maga. Okay. If MAGA is still the dominant force in the Republican Party. Fun fact. Tucker Carlson was one of the people who wanted Donald Trump to choose J.D. vance as his running mate. So just because he soured on Trump doesn't mean he's jumped off the MAGA train. So Democrats, y' all got what you need? Okay? Tucker said he was wrong. Tucker said he misled the people. Y' all should be clipping that up and getting it ready for attack ads in all the upcoming elections. Because anyone Tucker endorses, that's an opposition to your party. You can just put that clip in campaign ads and say, are you really going to listen to someone who got it so wrong? Okay. Are you really gonna listen to someone who got it so wrong before? Simple way to discredit those big conservative voices that will still be big conservative voices, you know, in the midterms and in 2028. Okay, just a little political warfare there. All right? And Tucker gave you a great weapon if you clip it right. Now, listen, here's the reason Tucker is getting donkey today. He said, and I quote, I want to say I'm sorry for misleading, misleading people. It was not intentional. That's all I say. Can I hear that?

[Tucker Carlson]

And I want to say I'm sorry for misleading people in. It was not intentional. That's all I'll say.

[DJ Envy]

Let me hear it one more time.

[Tucker Carlson]

And I want to say I'm sorry for misleading people in. And it was not intentional. That's all I'll say.

[DJ Envy]

No, no, no, no, no. You said in private messages you hated Trump, ok? And also, furthermore, if you apologize, which you did, if you said sorry for supporting him, which you did, then you can't say in the same breath it was not intentional. Okay? See, Tucker, I'm sure this wasn't your first time voting for Trump. I'm sure you voted for him all three times. You gave him full throated yum yum gum gum endorsements. Okay? Don't say it wasn't intentional. There was no surprises with Donald Trump. Do you even acknowledge that? Okay, I understand people who got conn because he said he would fix the economy on day one. I understand people who got conned because he said he would be the anti war president. But you also knew that he led an attempted coup this country on January 6, 2021. You knew he called to terminate parts of the Constitution over his lie that the 2020 election was stolen. You know, you knew that. Okay, okay. You know that you intentionally endorsed a convicted felon of low character, as you put it. Okay? 34 counts of falsifying business records in the first degree. You would never support a Democrat with that.

[Caller/Listener]

That.

[DJ Envy]

Okay. And you certainly wouldn't support a Democrat who was found liable in civil court for sexual abuse and defamation. So don't say you didn't intentionally mislead people in regards to Trump, because if you turn a blind eye to all of that and much, much, much more. Okay, I don't have time to get into all the other reasons. I could bring it up. Bring up. But if you turn the blind eye to all of that in order to support Trump, it was absolutely intentional. Okay? So own it. Own it all. All right? A sincere apology requires taking full responsibility for actions without excuses. Okay? A sincere apology. You own the action. You express regret. You acknowledge the impact of what. Of what it is you did. You take responsibility and you make amends. And guess what? You have to be intentional about it. Please give Tucker Carlson the biggest he ho.

[Kenya Barris]

All right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Thank you for that donkey today.

[DJ Envy]

Yes, ma'.

[Kenya Barris]

Am.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Now, when Kenya Barris was up here, he was talking about his kids, and he was talking about. His perspective changed on some of the things that his kids were talking about. Let's listen.

[DJ Envy]

What's something else your kids challenge you on that made you rethink your perspective?

[Kenya Barris]

Cursing my kids. They curse. They don't curse at me, but they're like, you know what I'm saying? Or like, you'll hear. And I'm just like. Like a part of me is like, I'm actually happier that they really not not being themselves around me. You know what I'm saying? But, like, I. I never would curse around my mom ever. Like, you know, cursing over my kids. Like, I'm. I want them to be more of themselves around me. I'm saying, like, my sons, I've caught him a couple times. Like, I call my, like, drinking, you know, I'm saying. And I'm like, they'll get in trouble. But I'm like, if you're gonna do this, please. At least let me know what's going on. I think that, for me, was the difference of, like, how we grew up compared to how, like, my kids tell me the bad stuff that they do, and I kind of have to, like, eat it a little bit.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, so, 800-585-1051, what is something that your kids challenge you on that change your perspective?

[DJ Envy]

Oh, I got one.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We'll do it when we come back.

[DJ Envy]

Yes, ma'. Am.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

800-585-1051. It's the breakfast Club. Good morning.

[DJ Envy]

It's topic time.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Call 800-585-1-051 to join into the discussion

[DJ Envy]

with the Breakfast Club.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Now, if you're just joining us, Kenya Barris was here earlier, and we was talking about some things that changed his mind about what his kids did, that changed his perspective. Let's listen.

[DJ Envy]

What's something else your kids challenge you on that made you rethink your perspective?

[Kenya Barris]

Cursing My kids. They curse. They don't curse at me, but they're like, you know I'm saying. Or, like, you'll hear it. I'm just, like. A part of me is like, I'm actually happier that they really not. Not being themselves around me. You know what I'm saying? But I. I never would curse around my mom ever. Like, you know, cursing over my kids. Like, I'm. I want them to be more of themselves around me. You know, I'm saying, like, my sons. I've caught him a couple times. Like, I call my, like, drink, you know, I'm saying. And I'm like, they'll get in trouble. But I'm like, if you're gonna do this, please at least let me know what's going on. I think that, for me was the difference of, like, how we grew up compared to how, like, my kids tell me the bad stuff that they do, and I kind of have to, like, eat it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So the question is, 800-585-1051, what is something that your kids challenge you on that change your perspective? Now, do you have anything, Jess?

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, I mean, I. I wouldn't call it. Call it a challenge, but, you know, so I grew up in a because I said so era, right? So you get, like, a lot of emotional pushback. I allow my son to do, like, emotional pushback. But you said that yesterday or asked me why, like, not, like, bedtime becomes a debate. You know what I'm saying? Like, back in the day my mother you go to bed, whatever, you know what I'm saying? It's because I said so. I wasn't able to challenge her, you know, challenge her commands, like whatever she

[Charlamagne Tha God]

told me, you know.

[Jess Hilarious]

But I let my son ask me why. And I explained myself a lot. Our parents wasn't explaining themselves to us. It's because I said so. I told you to do something, you're gonna do it. Don't ask me why, whatever. But I explained myself to my son. I think our parents looked at it as disrespect. When it's more curiosity, like your kids just being curious. That's pretty much it. I do not allow Ash to curse around me. And he doesn't try it. Now. I'll hear him slip up, up on the game when he with his friends, but you know, when he on the game with his friends, but he's not being disrespectful. So I can hear him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Jess Hilarious]

And when I do slip up and hear him, I don't say, I don't go and interrupt the game. And I'm not. He gonna be he a teenager, he 14, he's gonna curse, you know what I'm saying? But he don't curse at me or with me in a conversation.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I mean, I agree with you. I, I, I don't say I told you so, of course my parents did. But you know, I explained the reason why I say no or the reason why I answer. As far as the cursing on. My kids are not allowed to curse. If they're telling a story or they heard something, they will ask, can I have permission to curse? If they're explaining something, I can be like, yeah, I gotta explain it. And the only other thing is gaming. When Logan, who's 22 years old, when he was gaming, I didn't take it as seriously as I just looked at it as a hobby, as a fun thing to do. And at the time he was making money gaming. But I didn't take it per serious because I didn't see the vision of gaming back then. Now I see the vision. So if Jackson wanted to game more, I would be more into it. I would take him into the, you know, if there's a gaming competition, it'll

[Jess Hilarious]

be a career for him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I remember I had to DJ something at Barclays and it was like 20,000 people watching people game. And I didn't get it at first, but now I get it. So I would be open to things that are outside the box, pause, even streaming. I would be out, you Know things to that. What about you, Charlo?

[DJ Envy]

I said earlier this morning that I wanted to be still today and just hear the voice of God. So I need God to come into the room for this conversation. My kids challenge my wife and I every damn day, but they be acting a fool. So a perspective of mine that's changing corporal punishment, okay? My thoughts on corporal punishment change every time my babies try me. I'm telling you, I don't know what beating your kids ass, okay, I don't know what gets into these kids sometimes, but they are the sweetest little angels. One minute and then a switch at some point flips and you completely realize why your parents made you go pick a switch. Okay? I completely understand wanting to put belt to ass to your babies, okay? I wouldn't do it, but damn it if they don't got me thinking about it when they act a fool, okay?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What is wrong with you? And maybe they get it from their daddy who came in there today. Like I came in meditating as I was driving in and the guy was talking to me. And then the first thing you probably did was talk about Lawrence. But ball spot did God tell you to talk about.

[DJ Envy]

I know you're a fake parent.

[Kenya Barris]

Why?

[DJ Envy]

Because a real parent understands the ebbs and flows of raising children. There's no instruction manual that comes with this. So sometimes you are looking at your babies and you love your babies and you love your. You loving on them and you want to talk to them and you teaching them emotional intelligence. And then sometimes you want to beat their ass that they not listening. I understand. Like period, bottom line, point blank, period. Like that's, that's the, that's just the, that's just. I don't know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm past the beating. The kids, Madison and Logan. Yes, but the, the, the younger ones,

[DJ Envy]

grown ones back then. Back then.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, yes, yes. I would pop them. Absolutely, positively, I would. Madison, yes. They got it. The new ones.

[DJ Envy]

Nah. My oldest daughter, I spank once, which was I. I felt so stupid after I did it because she had cursed and I'm like, why are you spanking a kid for cursing? They don't know no better. They probably repeating words they heard. You learned it from, you know what I'm saying? So that was just dumb. So I never did that. And I don't, I don't put hands on my kids. Boy, I tell you, you, you know, sometimes you gotta grab them and give them a little shake, you know what I mean? Grab their arm a little bit and just squeeze it a little bit. Girl, you better listen to me. The hell is your problem?

[Jess Hilarious]

That's right.

[DJ Envy]

You know what I mean? You be saying, you be sitting there with your wife, like, right? You know what I mean? Like, boy, y', all, you don't know the era we come from. Trying us right now, okay? You don't understand the era we come from, what we had to go through. You wouldn't have survived the 90s.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm very surprised with my kids. My kids don't talk back. My kids like they are, I don't want to say the perfect kids, but my kids kids are not like Madison and Logan.

[DJ Envy]

That's what I thought.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The older kids, the younger kids, they are angels. They are good. They don't talk back. They don't get the stress. Which ones? The youngest ones I got 12, 11, nine and four.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, wait till they get about seven, you know what I mean? But like I said, it's ebbs and flows. 12, 11, because they might be good for a certain amount of time. And then they go through this little phase and you sitting back like, oh, God damn, what the hell?

[Jess Hilarious]

Just to see how far they can go.

[DJ Envy]

They're trying. Absolutely. And it make you think about going to get that switch.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I ain't going to lie. After the four year old went to the hospital for as long as she did, I don't care what she did.

[Jess Hilarious]

Nothing to her, nothing. It don't matter what she give me

[Charlamagne Tha God]

the middle finger, I'd be like, I deserved it. Like I like nothing. That 40 year old can't do nothing.

[DJ Envy]

And it breaks. It is nothing that breaks your heart more than when your babies were sweet angels one minute and then they talking back to man. I pulled up Beyond Scared Straight on the laptop and said, come here and look at this right now. I put the little girl, the little girl that was a tween that they took the Beyonce straight. I said, look at this, look at this right now. Okay?

[Jess Hilarious]

God.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, my God. It ain't even that bad. But I don't even. I'm not even. I just don't know what else to do. I don't know what else to do. I used to get beaten.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nah.

[DJ Envy]

You understand what I'm saying? I used to get beaten for the smallest things.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

My kids are different.

[DJ Envy]

Talking is just crazy sometimes. All that talking. You're not listening.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They'll probably be here tomorrow. My kids, 9. My kids are different because tomorrow is take your kids to workday.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Is it?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Tucker Carlson]

Damn.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Marley don't need to be here. Marley ain't gonna know what's going on up here? I know.

[Jess Hilarious]

All right. Hello?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who's this?

[Caller/Listener]

Hi, my name is Char.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, Char.

[DJ Envy]

Talk.

[Jess Hilarious]

Good morning.

[Caller/Listener]

Hey, good morning. Good morning, you guys. I'm gonna say this one thing my daughter challenges me on. She's 13 and she feels she should be able to text boys and date. So that's a big challenge for me because my parents, I grew up old school, but we don't believe in that.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Her dad is the same way.

[Caller/Listener]

We're old school, but I rather she tell me about it and I can talk her through it and help her and teach her how to navigate the boys versus her learning this on her own.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, I'm always good too. I'm flushing the phone down the toilet. I'm throwing the phone out there, throwing it in the front yard. Big toss. All right. Okay. Go get her a flip phone. She no texting, no nothing. Okay.

[Caller/Listener]

Take social media away. Everything she needed all. But yeah, that's the biggest challenge I get with her. So I just navigate her through it because it's, you know, the society we

[Lauren LaRosa]

live in now is completely different.

[Caller/Listener]

Different.

[DJ Envy]

I remember my father giving my oldest sister a beating just for staying out late. Because when you think that when it was staying out late back then was 11:30, 12:00'.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Clock.

[DJ Envy]

So just a father thinking about what his daughter may be doing staying out late. Now I gotta navigate a 13 year old. Texan boys.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Lord have mercy.

[Jess Hilarious]

A different time.

[DJ Envy]

Y' all asking a lot.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

See, it's a lot different. And that's why I love dance so much. They're in dead from four to nine every day when they come home, they in my room. They fall asleep in my room and I'm all through their phone.

[DJ Envy]

How old is she?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Which one?

[DJ Envy]

The one that dances.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Which one?

[DJ Envy]

The one that dances.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

12.

[DJ Envy]

Okay. She's still 12. She still got another year too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And Madison ain't kissed her first boy to college. So I've been.

[DJ Envy]

I've been talking about.

[Jess Hilarious]

Really?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. Madison was slow. Turtle slow.

[DJ Envy]

That you know about. I'm slow. I think Logan slow too, huh?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I ain't say no big deal.

[DJ Envy]

I a say Logan. I bet you. I bet you Logan mama think he's slow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We don't.

[DJ Envy]

We don't.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Logan ain't doing push ups in the gym for nothing if he's just joining us. Kenya Barris was on earlier and we were talking about some things that his kids challenged him on that changed his perspective. Let's listen.

[DJ Envy]

What's something else your kids challenge you on that made you Rethink your perspective.

[Kenya Barris]

Cursing. My kids, they curse. They don't curse at me, but they're like, I'm saying. Or like, you're here. And I'm just. Like, a part of me is like, I'm actually happier that they really. They're not. Not being themselves around me, you know, I'm saying. But, like, I. I never would curse around my mom ever. Like, you know, cursing over my kids. Like, I'm. I want them to be more of themselves around me, you know, I'm saying, like, my sons. I've caught him a couple times. Like, I call my, like, drinking, you know, I'm saying. And I'm like, they'll get in trouble. But I'm like, if you're gonna do this, please at least let me know what's going on. I think that for me was the difference of, like, how we grew up compared to how, like, my kids tell me the bad stuff that they do, and I kind of have to, like, eat it a little bit.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So we're asking 800-585-1051, what is something that your kids challenge you on, that change your perspective? Hello, who's this?

[Caller/Listener]

This decon from Indianapolis.

[Jess Hilarious]

Good morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We're asking, what is something that your kids challenge you on that change your perspective, Brother.

[Caller/Listener]

Man, listen, let me tell you something, man. I just lost the son February 19th.

[DJ Envy]

Damn, man. Prayers up to you and your family for sure. Healing energy too, my brother.

[Caller/Listener]

Appreciate that, Charlemagne. But, yeah, as a Father, I'm 40. Remind you. So I grew up in a different area from these kids these days, so it's like I'm pushing them to be a man. Like, are you gonna be grown? Get your ass out there, be grown. Show me you can do it. Cause why, when I try to be grown, my mama pushed me out there. I showed her I could be grown, where she was like, okay, were you a man now? But now I wish I would have let the nigga smoke the weed and drink and had a girls over or whatever, because I feel like, in a sense, he'll still be here. So my. My perspective on it now is that with my other two boys and my two daughters, I gotta tap more into what they like, what they doing, what they into, so I could try to, you know, be a parent and a friend, add a little bit of friend in there. Why would I be comfortable with telling me this stuff? Well, I'll be able to correct it or be able to give them some form of guidance before it's too late. So some people might look at it as it's wrong. Now don't disrespect me and smoke a pound in my face. Don't disrespect your mom and your, your little siblings, your younger siblings, and don't be cussing all in front of me and your mom and all of that. That. Do what you do if you want to go out there. But I really wish that I would have been a little more linear. Let them smoke the weed, let them drink, let them bring the girls all the time. I feel like my son will still be here. So in a sense I do agree with Dude, I, I hate my kids. Changed my perspective once I lost my son.

[DJ Envy]

I understand that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Sorry, brother.

[DJ Envy]

You should give yourself a little bit more grace. I struggle with the, with the friend thing. I feel like, you know, you should be a parent, parent and a confidant. Meaning that they should be comfortable telling you things that they don't tell anybody else. I think the friend thing comes as they get older because when them kids is young, man, they need guys.

[Caller/Listener]

My kids adult. My kids is grown. Charlamagne, I got two 19 year old boys and my son that just died was 18.

[DJ Envy]

Got you, got you, got you. That makes sense.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But I think being a friend to your kid, like Charlamagne said, to a certain extent, right, because you want your kids to be comfortable enough to tell you everything, right? Yeah. You want them to be a real safe place regardless. And, and I'm like, again, I'm sorry you lost your, your son, brother. But it's also like you said, if, if your kid wants to smoke weed or he wants to drink, you at least want him to be able to say, all right, I'm, I'm a dad. I'm gonna do it anyway. But I'd rather do it in a safe environment where you can control it, where you can explain to him what it is, Explain them what he's drinking, what he's smoking, what he's getting into himself into. So hopefully, you know, you could be that, that change in factor for him.

[Jess Hilarious]

And I think that's what he means.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Absolutely.

[Caller/Listener]

I, I gotta be honest with myself and say that I was more trying to rule with their iron fence, save them from it, like, you know what I mean? So that's what got me to where now? Like, I ain't gonna say I'm being soft with the rest of the kids, but I got a different kind of standing.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Caller/Listener]

Openly, you know.

[Jess Hilarious]

Absolutely.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm sorry, brother.

[Caller/Listener]

Shout out to, Shout out to y'. All. I listen to y' all every morning. I never tried to call no radio station. It's the first time I tried because of that. That. The topic just kind of touched me about my son.

[DJ Envy]

Yes, sir.

[Caller/Listener]

So I wanted to reach out. Hey, Charlemagne, I ain't used to like your ass, man, but you threw on me, boy. I respect you, boy. Hey, I like. I like what y' all doing up here. Thank you for the black folk, man.

[DJ Envy]

I appreciate you, brother.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, well, what's the moral of the story?

[Jess Hilarious]

He was from west coast, wasn't he?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Sound like he was.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, absolutely. He sound like Ryan Coogler.

[DJ Envy]

You know, it's interesting about the. When people say they want their kids. Kids to smoke weed and drink and stuff like that. Like, if my kid came to me and said that, my question would be, why? Like, why? Why do you want to do this? Because if the answer is because you see everybody else doing it, that's not a good enough reason. Because the only reason I did it back in the day is because everybody around me was doing it. You know, it was in the rap songs and stuff like that. Like, that's the only reason I didn't have a. A real desire, like, you know, I mean, because kids are young and they're impressionable. So why do you. I would wanna know why if you can give me a good reason.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But, you know, for most kids, they see it so much, and they see adults doing it so much, they see it in songs, they see it on tv.

[Jess Hilarious]

That's the influence.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They see it. So the influence is like, why do so many people wanna do it? Like, I'm not a heavy drinker in the house, so my kids never say anything to, you know, drink. I would never smoke in front of my kids, so my kids don't know. So they. They don't ask. But you can understand if somebody's seeing it so much. Be like, well, why do people wanna do it so much? Let me try and see what the taste.

[Jess Hilarious]

Try to see. Let me try and see what the smoke thing is.

[Caller/Listener]

That.

[DJ Envy]

That's interesting because if the kids come to you and say, why you and Mommy always drinking wine? You know, the older kid be like, why y' all be on them edibles? My answer is going to be, so we don't beat your ass. Okay? So we don't take this belt and put it to your ass and make you go get a switch and put it to your ass.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Gets older, she gonna be like, I need to take an edible. So, Dad, I don't beat your ass. Cause you be on my ass. I don't want to beat your ass, dad. So I'm gonna get one of these.

[DJ Envy]

She might be right.

[Caller/Listener]

Right.

[DJ Envy]

Don't act like these kids don't drive you to drink now. Okay, okay. Don't act like these kids don't drive you to drink.

[Jess Hilarious]

That's why happy hours exist.

[DJ Envy]

Yes. Yeah, I bet you that's a struggle for so many people that grew up in the 1900s like us, who don't want to raise their kids the way we were raised. I know we struggle with corporal punishment. We need to make that a topic. Maybe tomorrow. Let's talk about the parents that grew up in the 1900s like we did, who used to get beaten, who don't beat their kids now. But damn it, understand why they used to get beaten back in the day now? Because they got churned.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, well, salute to all the parents out there doing the best that they possibly can.

[DJ Envy]

That's all. We can do the best we can.

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Lauren LaRosa]

It's Lauren LaRosa. Okay, let's talk curls for a second. Cause you already know if you have curly or coily hair. Moisture is not optional, it's essential. Dryness is one of the biggest challenges for curly hair and most products products they clock out after wash day. The new Ultra Moisture collection was literally designed with our hair in mind. Curls, coils, all of it powered by Botano oil and Jamaican Black Castor oil. Which means the science is actually doing the work. Clinically proven to help retain moisture for up to five days. Five whole days. The shampoo gently cleanses without stripping. The mask deeply conditions and helps reduce breakage. The leave in adds a lightweight hydration with hyaluronic acid. It and the curl cream defines without crunch. No sulfates, no parabens, no silicones, no mineral oils. Just nourishment without the compromise. Because here's the thing. Your hair deserves products that actually understand it. Moisture that starts at the root and keeps going. Well past Sunday, that's the Ultra Moisture collection from Cantu Explore their full line built for every curl pattern, every hair routine available now at Walmart, Target and Amazon. Go get it.

[DJ Envy]

Peace to the planet. Charlemagne. Th God here. Now y' all know I'm big on ownership. Owning your ideas, owning your business, owning your future. And that's exactly why I use Shopify. Shopify is the platform that lets you take an idea and actually build a real business out of it. All right? It gives anyone the tools, the storefront and the control. So you're not building on somebody else's platform or somebody else's algorithm. Okay? It's your own store, your community, your own customers. That relationship is yours to own. All right? What I love is how discoverable it makes everything. Shopify puts products everywhere. People actually shop. Google, YouTube, TikTok, shop the shop app. Even inside chat GPT you can literally go from conversation to checkout. That's next level options in our changing world. And right now the Black Effects storefront is busy and Shopify is handling the heavy lifting. I am so excited that Shopify is going to show up up at our Black Effect podcast festival this year in a big way. And of course I'LL be there preaching this platform and introducing this platform to all our small black owned businesses that partner with us. Shopify is helping drive the marketplace this year at our festival and their footprint and commitment to us and the community of black owned businesses is something I am proud to be a part of. Build your store, own your audience and create something that lasts. Start [e-mail] Breakfast Club Club.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, let's get to the latest with Laura.

[Jess Hilarious]

Lauren becoming a straight thing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She gets them from somebody that knows somebody, somebody detail.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm the home girl that knows a little bit about everything.

[DJ Envy]

She be having the latest on the

[Kenya Barris]

Latest with Lauren LaRosa.

[DJ Envy]

Sometimes you have facts, sometimes you have details. Sometimes you have a little bit of everything. Oh. It's the latest brought to you by Top Dog Law on the Breakfast Club. Talk to me.

[Lauren LaRosa]

All right, y'.

[Caller/Listener]

All.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So the Kanye west anti Semitic apology tour continues. His most recent stop, he was caught leaving a Jewish human rights center in Beverly Hills. He was caught out by tmz. It's the Simon Wiesenthal Center. Now, this center is a Jewish human rights organization and they do everything from Holocaust research and remembrance to combating anti Semitism, tolerance, education, a bunch of different things. He was there for about an hour and a half. And this, you know, comes after all of, like the concerts being canceled and being pushed and those different conversations. So he's making the rounds again, trying to figure it out. We move on. So in other news over there in la, so right now, it's. It's a very weird time for the Kardashians. It may be something that they're probably used to. So right now, Kylie Jenner is being accused by a former housekeeper of being bullying and discrimination. At the same time, Khloe Kardashian is being called Black Chloe. I'mma get it.

[DJ Envy]

Calling her Black Chloe. So I want you calling her bk. I gave you guys.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He don't care about the discrimination here. You want to know why they call him black over there?

[Lauren LaRosa]

I gave you guys a photo. I want you to flip your photo over. I gave everyone in the room photos. Yours is right here. Flip the photo over.

[Jess Hilarious]

Lord.

[Lauren LaRosa]

All right, now, at first glance, I thought that this photo. There is a billboard in California for Khloe Kardashian's cloud brand, which is healthy. The snack brand. Right. I thought that this was Beyonce a little bit.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

At first, I was gonna say the same thing. It did. It did look like Beyonce.

[DJ Envy]

Disrespect Beyonce. Not to me. Not one time.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Don't look like that for a quick moment yesterday.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Now this.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I ain't got my contact anymore, but it did for a little bit.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Now this billboard is going viral. And again, this is a billboard that is actively live in LA right now because Chloe looks noticeably darker. There is a shadow over her face, but she doesn't notice. Supposed to be darker. Which has been a conversation around the Kardashians for some time. When they went viral on Tik Tok, Khloe actually commented on the video. She's like. With the laughing emojis, like, what is going on here? But, yeah, the people are like, who the heck is this woman called?

[DJ Envy]

I say Black Chloe. I might say Bodega Chloe. She looks darker than she usually is. Yeah, a lot, dog.

[Jess Hilarious]

But I mean, like, y' all gotta think about it. Y' all white, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Y' all don't want to be pale.

[Jess Hilarious]

Y'.

[Lauren LaRosa]

All.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Y' all to tan.

[Jess Hilarious]

Like, who the hell want to be white?

[DJ Envy]

I'm glad you. I'm glad you talking to. When you say I'm not white, man,

[Jess Hilarious]

y' all lighten up.

[DJ Envy]

You know white people. I'm not white.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, I'm black.

[DJ Envy]

All right, Dominican.

[Jess Hilarious]

When I say, cuz, you're the lightest in the room, but in the winter time, you get real, you know, Sugar cookie. Now, yes, sugar cookie.

[DJ Envy]

Go back to the.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Demonstrate discrimination.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Other hand, Khloe Kardashian. I mean, Khloe. Kylie Jenner, she's named as a defendant in this, but it's actually her house staff. So there's a woman named Angelica that had been working for Kylie since 2024, but she's resigned. And she says that she was treated with hostility and exclusion. She says she was belittled and humiliated in front of her co workers because of her race, her origin, and her religious belief. She's Salvadorian and Catholic. She says that they were yelling things at her like, catholics are horrible people. This is Kylie's house. House, house staff. And that she was mocked or intimidated about her immigration status and threatened with deportation. She said she had hangers thrown at her when she complained about the treatment. Now, Kylie's camper people close. Are telling TMZ that. That people that are familiar with her house staff are saying that this person was just a junior housekeeper and that she had attendance issues along with other workplace concerns. But again, Kylie is not. She's not saying that Kylie said all these things. She's saying it's her house staff, but she's named as the defendant because she's basically saying that Kylie Failed to regulate this.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, K. Got to do is pointed this picture of Chloe and said, I would never. My sister is Spanish, okay? I would never discriminate against another. Salvador is not Spanish. They speak Spanish, though, right? They are Spanish. Salvador right here. This is my el sister, okay? She. My el sister.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Okay, well, hopefully that helps her, mi hermana.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, that is the latest. Now, who is that? Brought to you by.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It's brought to you by Top Dog Law.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, go ahead.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Any accident, big or small, call Top Dog Law.

[DJ Envy]

And I want to salute my guys at Drink Champs. You know, the fourth annual Black Effect Podcast Festival is happening this Saturday at Pullman Yards in Atlanta, hosted by envy and Lauren LaRosa. We told y'.

[Kenya Barris]

All.

[DJ Envy]

Crystal Renee Hayslett has the Keep It Positive Sweetie podcast, and it's gonna be a mashup with Caresha Young Miami. Right, Karisha, please. Podcast Drink Champs. Their special guests are going to be none other than ATL icon Cee Lo Green.

[Caller/Listener]

Okay.

[DJ Envy]

Dropping the clues bombs to CeeLo Green. You might as well bring the rest of the mob with you. Might as well bring the rest of Goody Mob with you. Okay? Since we in Atlanta, I would love to see all the brothers there. And as well as K. Michelle, she'll be on Drink Champs.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I am so excited. She has been killing Real Housewives of Atlanta, and she's doing well. She's. Oh, my God, like. And she's not even doing the craziest thing. She's just maintaining herself. It's just good to see her on there. And she been doing so great in her interviews. I cannot wait.

[DJ Envy]

She'll be at the Black Effect Podcast Festival this Saturday with Drip Champs.

[Jess Hilarious]

And she's not the drama.

[Lauren LaRosa]

No. It's so good to see her as. Not that she's not the villain. Well, not yet. We don't know if it changes, but yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Salute to K. Michelle.

[DJ Envy]

All right, so go get your tickets. I think there's still some.

[Kenya Barris]

Some.

[DJ Envy]

Some tickets left. Some general admission tickets left. Black effect.com podcast festival. We'll see you this Saturday and ATL.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, well, let's get to the People's Choice mix. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got a salute to Kenya Barris for joining us this morning. New documentary, Jerry West. The logo is streaming on Prime Video now. So salute to Kenya Barris.

[DJ Envy]

And also just great to talk to Kenya, man. Kenya. Kenya is one of those people who's had so much success in television and film that his insights on tv, film and just the whole entertainment game are, are always, always good.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Now this weekend, if you're out and about, Friday, of course, I'm gonna be in Pittsburgh for their draft party. Thursday I'm gonna be in New York for the Giants draft party. But Saturday we're heading to Atlanta for the Black Effect Podcast Festival.

[DJ Envy]

Fourth annual Black Effect Podcast Festival is happening in Atlanta, Georgia at Pullman Yards. Go get your tickets. Black Effect.com podcast festival Gritson eggs podcast is gonna be on there. That's my man Deontay Kyle and big Ice Cupcake cat Carlos King will be there with the Reality with the King podcast. Drink Champs is going to be there and we just announced this morning that their special guest will be Ceelo Green and K. Michelle Crystal. Renee Haylett will be there with her Keep It Positive Sweetie podcast. And we're doing a mashup with her in Young Miami with the Karisha Please podcast, Mona with the Don't Call Me White Girl podcast and Jeff teague with the Club 520 podcast. And you know, we got panel like Tika something's gonna be on the panel. My man Ian Dunlap is going to be on the panel. It's all type of stuff going on. Clarissa Shields is going to be there. Who else? Listen, it's a lot going on. I don't know what Clarissa, Clarissa pulling up. Like Clarissa said she want to pull up. My man Michael Biven said he pulling up. There's a lot, it's a lot of different things going on. My man Roger Karuf got the NASCAR simulator there for anybody that wants to learn how to, you know, do race car driving. So listen, you know, the Black Effect Podcast Festival is a family affair. We got the food trucks, the vendors, everything. So we'll see you Saturday in Atlanta. Blackffect.com podcast Festival to go get your tickets.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right. Now, Jess, where you at this weekend?

[Jess Hilarious]

I'm in Newark, New Jersey at Rutgers University for Black Writers Weekend. At 4pm it starts. The event is sold out, but Brooklyn, I'm coming to y' all Thursday, April 30th at 7pm for my book launch. Til death do we parent. Parent. So make sure you get your tickets at Powerhouse Arena. We're gonna be at the Powerhouse Bookstore, y'.

[Kenya Barris]

All.

[Jess Hilarious]

So see y' all next Thursday.

[DJ Envy]

Next Tuesday, Jess. Book will be out period. Tell death do we parent.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. I can't wait for, for you and Rome. I know Roman's coming up next week

[Jess Hilarious]

to do that interview.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Is he Yeah, I was just joking. But he really is.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, he's definitely trying.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Really?

[DJ Envy]

Oh, yeah. That just don't know about. Rome is waiting for the book to drop. Rome waiting for the book to drop and for people to read for him to go on his talk.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So the.

[Kenya Barris]

The.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Your baby daddy will be here and you won't. So he's gonna be filling in for you.

[DJ Envy]

No, he's not gonna.

[Jess Hilarious]

He's gonna do the interview with me that I do here to promote the book.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, I thought he was filling in for you. Like.

[Jess Hilarious]

No. Oh.

[DJ Envy]

If y' all come up here and hold the book up and say cap. All right. That would be so. Oh, my God. You got a positive note. I do. The positive note is simply this man accepting complete responsibility for your life. Life means that you refuse to make excuses or blame others for anything in your life that you're not happy about. Okay. If you think someone or something other than yourself is responsible for your happiness and success, I guess you're not that happy or successful. Have a great day. Breakfast club. Wake you up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wake that ass up.

[DJ Envy]

Program your Alarm to power 105.1 on iHeartradio. The weight was worth it. It the keys to your dream home have been secured. Now comes the time to fill it with memories. But first, furniture and movers. Where's the housewarming?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Who's cooking?

[Kenya Barris]

Or should you cater?

[DJ Envy]

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[State Farm Announcer]

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[DJ Envy]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Lauren LaRosa]

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[Jess Hilarious]

All.

[Lauren LaRosa]

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