FULL SHOW: Exclusive: Biggie Source Denies Claims Made In Netflix Diddy Doc + Jordan Klepper Interview

Summary

The Breakfast Club – FULL SHOW: Exclusive: Biggie Source Denies Claims Made In Netflix Diddy Doc + Jordan Klepper Interview

Date: December 4, 2025
Hosts: DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God, Lauren LaRosa

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Overview

Today's episode dives deep into controversy stirred by the Netflix Diddy docuseries, featuring an exclusive interview with Wayne Barrow (estate manager for Biggie Smalls’ mother), who refutes claims made about Biggie’s funeral and contracts. The show also features an insightful and comedic sit-down with The Daily Show’s Jordan Klepper discussing his new special, his on-the-ground encounters with America’s divided politics, and the line between comedy and activism. The morning features candid discussions on SNAP benefit changes, the immigration crackdown, and an always-eclectic mix of street calls, trending gossip—and relationship advice from Jess Hilarious.

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Key Discussion Points

1. [03:02] Holiday Tours, Struggles, and Black Friday Woes

• The hosts discuss the hectic holiday season, sold-out shows, financial constraints, and how “finances ain’t really financing for everybody,” especially with lackluster holiday deals.
• Jess Hilarious: “The Black Friday deals and the Cyber Monday deals weren’t as good as they usually were.”
• Charlamagne: Highlights the sheer volume of tours and stage plays impacting fans’ spending.

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2. [06:13] Front Page News: SNAP Benefits & Political Messaging

• SNAP Tensions: Trump administration threatens to withhold funds from blue states unless they share sensitive recipient data; a judge blocks this, but stricter work requirements have already kicked in.
• Charlamagne: “I do think it’s crazy. Using deceased people’s Social Security numbers to get benefits. That is crazy.” [09:32]
• Economic Rhetoric: Trump pivots from touting “affordability” to calling it a Democratic scam despite continued economic struggles for many.
• DJ Envy: “Affordability is a scam from politicians because ... if people aren’t feeling that in their pockets, it don’t matter.” [11:59]

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3. [12:28] “Get It Off Your Chest” Open Lines

• Listeners call in about the Diddy docuseries, defending Biggie’s legacy, and general life updates.
• A caller, Lovey, criticizes Diddy’s parenting as depicted in the doc: “What got overlooked is how he is leading his son down that path.”
• Jess Hilarious: Responds bluntly, “Nothing was cool about that doc. That doc showed a nasty individual that needs some prayers... hugs... a new team.” [13:54]
• Other listeners debate the best Christmas songs, football fandoms, and more.

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4. [18:11, 20:26] Exclusive: Wayne Barrow Refutes Diddy Doc Claims About Biggie

• Lauren LaRosa interviews Wayne Barrow, former Biggie manager and estate rep for Violetta Wallace:
  • Refutes claim that “Biggie paid for his own funeral”—Barrow states Bad Boy & Diddy covered all costs.
  • Denies there was any contract dispute between Diddy and Biggie right before his death; “Life After Death was already done, there were no negotiations ongoing.”
  • Also rejects story that Diddy blocked Biggie from a Rolling Stone cover.
  • Lauren: “He wanted to speak out...because it’s not fair for the people who are an extension of Biggie’s legacy to have to deal with a lot of these rumors.” [22:12]
• Roundtable: Hosts discuss which version of events seems most credible, emphasizing “there are always two, three sides to a story.”

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5. [41:00] Interview: Jordan Klepper (“Fingers the Pulse” Special)

• Klepper jokes about the grind of comedy, health insurance, and “peopleing” (verb for interacting with the public):
  • On fieldwork: “People off camera are so interesting to me and those are the people that I like the most. ... When the camera goes off...that’s when you see the real person.” [39:27]
  • On blending comedy and activism: Describes combining standup with field interviews to “stress test propaganda.”
  • On facing danger: Details needing increased security after a MAGA rally incident escalated into a mob: “Suddenly, I was pushing somebody in an interview… it became a mob of angry people. Security had to extricate me… throw me in a van kind of situation. They chased me. That’s mob mentality…” [49:34]
  • Charlamagne: “Do you ever think about keeping a MAGA hat nearby to throw on for safety?” [51:37]
  • On measuring success: “I measure success with clicks. That’s all that matters. Just clicks. Who is watching? How many clicks?” [45:41]
  • On comedy vs public service: “The Daily Show has a bias toward comedy, calling out the BS where they see it... I’m not a journalist, I rely on good journalists for facts, but I can add context and hopefully spark conversation.” [55:00]

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6. [32:00] Immigration Raids & Community Fear

• News Update: Trump administration launches raids in New Orleans and Minneapolis, targeting criminal “aliens,” with local families fearful and confusion rife among the area’s Somali community.
• Audio clips of scared community members, and Rep. Ilhan Omar’s response: “His obsession with me is creepy. I hope he gets the help he desperately needs.” [33:06]
• Hosts express empathy for impacted communities and critique ICE profiling.

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7. [35:33] Relationship Trends: December is the Breakup Month

• December sees a surge in breakups due to holiday stress, gift expectations, and family gatherings.
• Hosts provide comedic (but practical) advice for surviving--or timing--relationship turbulence around the holidays.

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8. [83:51] Jess Fixes Your Mess: Hilarious & Real Relationship Counseling

• Caller 1: Man struggles to address his girlfriend’s hygiene issues. After much laughter and gagging, Jess and Charlamagne advise a kind but direct conversation, suspecting a possible medical issue.
  • Charlamagne: “Her pride can’t get in the way of her smell. She has to fix this—not just for you, for her too.” [93:11]
• Caller 2: A mother seeking advice on whether to fight a custody battle with her children’s father, who manipulates co-parenting out of spite.
  • Jess: Encourages honest, non-hostile communication—“You gotta figure out how to govern yourselves individually so you can be the best parents for your kids.” [100:24]
• Discussion references Jess’s forthcoming co-parenting memoir.

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9. [103:35] Trending Gossip & Updates with Lauren LaRosa

• Brandy and Beyoncé rumored to have a strained relationship, confirmed by sources close to the Renaissance Tour; “At some point during Beyoncé’s climb, things kinda got a little bit rocky and they haven’t established anything better since.” [69:56]
• Halle Berry Calls Out Gavin Newsom: Shares a fiery speech at the NYT Dealbook Summit, slamming Newsom for vetoing a menopause bill and “overlooking women.” [71:33]
• [104:15] Candy Burruss Divorce: Candy moves to seal her divorce docs from Todd Tucker as prenup details and cheating suspicions swirl—clips replay Candy and Todd’s legal agreements, with Candy challenging Todd’s claims that he was rushed into signing.
• [107:54] Portia’s New Relationship: Details about Portia Williams’ new girlfriend, and playful studio banter about “eaters” and “pillow princesses.”

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10. [77:31] “Donkey of the Day”

• A chilling Florida crime story: Charlemagne denounces senseless violence and urges listeners: “Don’t do something permanently stupid because you are temporarily upset.” [81:18]
• Calls back to a Bruce Lee quote: “Emotion can be the enemy. If you give in to your emotion, you lose yourself…”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Jess Hilarious on Diddy Docuseries: “That doc showed a nasty individual that needs some prayers... hugs... He needs a new team, he needs a whole lot.” [13:54]
• Lauren LaRosa on Biggie Allegations: “It’s not fair for people who are an extension of Biggie’s legacy to have to deal with a lot of these rumors.” [22:12]
• Jordan Klepper on Activism and Comedy: “For me, what is most effective…is when I feel like I’m stress-testing propaganda. … If I can go out and find that hypocrisy...hopefully there’s a little moment of revelation.” [52:25]
• Charlamagne on Relationship Breakups: “Break up now, don’t wait till close to Christmas. That’s a little petty. Actually, you should have did it on Thanksgiving.” [36:41]
• Charlamagne on Parental Duty: “Kids can’t wait for y’all to get your ish together.” [100:10]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [03:02] – Show discussion, touring struggles
• [06:13] – SNAP benefits and economic debate
• [13:54] – Street call reactions to Diddy doc
• [18:11, 20:26] – Exclusive Wayne Barrow (Biggie Estate) interview
• [32:00] – Immigration raids & community fears
• [35:33] – Why December is breakup season
• [41:00] – Jordan Klepper joins the show
• [49:34] – Klepper recounts MAGA mob experience
• [55:21] – Comedy vs activism with Klepper
• [77:31] – Donkey of the Day segment
• [83:51] – Jess Fixes Your Mess (relationship hotline)
• [103:35] – Lauren LaRosa trending topics/gossip

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Final Thoughts

This episode blends sharp comedy, social critique, and real talk, balancing the weight of current controversies (Diddy, Biggie, immigration) with comic relief, heartfelt advice, and energetic studio chemistry—including a standout, unsparing, and revealing interview with Jordan Klepper. The show maintains its signature tone: irreverent, authentic, and in tune with its audience.

Quote to End:
“Emotion can be the enemy. If you give in to your emotion, you lose yourself.” – Bruce Lee, as cited by Charlamagne [112:44]

Transcript

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Can find them, including right here.

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They're listening to the radio.

[Jordan Klepper]

They're listening to podcasts. They could be listening to you.

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[Lauren LaRosa]

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[Mimi Brown]

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[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Wake that ass up.

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[Lovey]

Damn.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Ready?

[DJ Envy]

Good morning, USA yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo.

[Jordan Klepper]

Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo.

[DJ Envy]

Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo.

[Jordan Klepper]

Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo.

[DJ Envy]

Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Jess. Hilarious.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Good morning, Charlemagne.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

To be here in a second Thursday.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, shorty.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

How you feeling, Jess? I feel good.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I feel good going into the weekend. I got shows this weekend. I'm happy about it. They selling out. So I'm. I'm amazed. I'm amazed by that, man. Because Connecticut. Sometimes they. They struggle a little bit.

[DJ Envy]

Really? Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They lag. They. They like to get tickets the same day. They. They come in the same day. All right. You know, and then at the meet and greets, I'd be like, yo, why it took y' all so long to get y' all tickets? And be like, we ain't know if we was gonna have money.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

It's the trouble.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

People be telling me, like, stuff like that.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

It's the truth.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Keep it a.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Especially the holiday season.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hell, yeah.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

So many things are so damn expensive.

[Lauren LaRosa]

That's the problem.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, and then everybody is on Toyo. We got so many people on tour. I never seen so many people on tour in my life. Like, we got all these comedians, we got artists, and then we got the plays. It's people doing plays. Tour, you know, it's so much going on, and then you're right. It is the holidays. And then the finances ain't really financing for everybody. So people got to pick and choose where they want to go, what they gonna spend their money on.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

That's right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I mean? So.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

And I ain't go front. The Black Friday deals and the Cyber Monday deals weren't as good as they usually were.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. Yep.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

They weren't. Usually they 50, 60% off. And you could say, oh, nowadays, like, 20%, 30%.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

I'm like, I know, homie. That work at the store. I can use his discount for 30%.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

But it wasn't what it usually was. So things are expensive. So.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Anyway. What up, Charlamagay?

[DJ Envy]

No, boy. Malibu was my last listen.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

At least he's not an eater this morning. Well, Jordan Klepper will be joining us this morning. Comedian. He has a New special. Fingers the pulse.

[DJ Envy]

Fingers in the pulse. Is it on the post or in the post?

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Fingers the pulse.

[DJ Envy]

Fingers the pulse.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Yes. He fingers the pulse.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, this is my guy, Jordan Klepper, man.

[Jordan Klepper]

Yeah.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

He has on Comedy Central this weekend, Monday. Actually the 8th. Monday.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, you had a good night?

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

You had a good day?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Mimi Brown]

Why, what's up?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Did you.

[DJ Envy]

I can't ask y'?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All.

[DJ Envy]

How y' all doing?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, don't. Don't do that. It don't really usually be that nice.

[DJ Envy]

How was your day?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You got some sleep?

[DJ Envy]

I did get some sleep last night. I had a long day yesterday. I did the New York Times Dealbook summit yesterday.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

How was that?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How was it?

[DJ Envy]

It was dope. We had a panel with it. Myself and who else is going?

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

I don't want to talk to you right now.

[Jordan Klepper]

You, You.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

You do a routine. Do your routine, man. You come in here, you usually pray, and then you're like, come on, you're messing up. Routine.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He slap on his spf.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

That's right. Like, do your routine. Thank you. Yes. Go in the corner.

[DJ Envy]

Take his vitamins.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

For 15 years, he's been doing the same thing. Today he wants to change things up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Don't change things up for me now. Somebody. Hi.

[DJ Envy]

Family doing? What are you talking about?

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

We got front page news coming up. Then get it off your chest.

[Mimi Brown]

800.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

5, 8, 5, 10, 5, 1.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't trust him.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning, everybody. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page news now. Tonight, Thursday Night Football. Them Cowboys take on the Detroit Lions at 8:15.

[DJ Envy]

Okay, guess who ain't staying up for that.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

You say a little bit of it. You say watch a little bit of it.

[DJ Envy]

Nine, 15. 9:15. I'm sneezing.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Morning, Mimi.

[News Reporter]

Good morning, Embi. Josh Alamain. How y' all doing this morning?

[DJ Envy]

Thanks, Mimi.

[News Reporter]

Mimi, good morning. All right, so we start this morning with a new fight over SNAP benefits. A new warning from the Trump administration that could impact millions of families. So the administration says it will withhold certain SNAP funds From more than 20 Democratic led states starting next week unless those states hand over detailed personal information about everyone receiving benefits. Things like Social Security numbers and immigration status. Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins says this data is necessary because she says there's fraud happening, even though the USDA has not offered any proof and federal research shows that SNAP fraud is very rare. Let's listen to her explanation.

[Mimi Brown]

When we found 186,000 dead people. Dead people. Social Security numbers being used 500,000 people receiving benefits more than twice. We had a couple of people receiving benefits in six states in February of this year. We asked for all the states for the first time to turn over their data to the federal government to let the USDA partner with them to root out this fraud to make sure that those who really need food stamps are getting them, but also to ensure that the American taxpayer is protected. 29 states said yes, not surprisingly, the red states, and that's where all of that data, that fraud comes from. But 21 states, including California, New York and Minnesota, blue states continue to say no. So as of next week, we have begun and will begin to stop moving federal funds into those states until they comply and they tell us and allow us to partner with them to root out this fraud and to protect the American taxpayer.

[News Reporter]

Well, a federal judge. Yeah. Has already blocked the USDA from collecting this information and punishing states that don't comply. The administration has until December 15th to appeal, but for now, that order stays in place. And just another important thing to note, that the way the administration is framing this has given the impression that SNAP benefits themselves will be cut off. But that's not exactly what the order does. The only money that could legally be withheld is the administrative funding fee, so not the food money that families actually receive. But states say that still matters because losing administrative money affects how the program runs day to day. It means fewer staff to process application, longer wait times, delays fixing problems, and slower service for families who depend on snap. So we will continue to watch that. And one more thing. And all as all of this sets into place for next week, people may have started feeling the other big change. That's because the brand new or the SNAPS rules, the brand new big beautiful bill that quietly kicked in this week, they are much stricter now. So here's the difference. Most adults ages 18 to 64 who don't have disabilities and who don't have young children, they now have to complete 80 hours a month of work, job training, or volunteering to keep those benefits. And if you don't meet that, you will be kicked off in three months. And exemptions for veterans, unhoused people, and young adults who have aged out, the foster care system, those ended this week as well. So Trump's big beautiful bill definitely kicked in this week. And SNAP recipients will start feeling that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I do think it's crazy. Using deceased people's security numbers, Social Security numbers to get benefits. That is crazy.

[News Reporter]

Yeah, I mean, you know, there's, they're looking into it we don't know sometimes with this administration what's real and what's fake. But, you know, I'm sure, you know, there are some things.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Yeah, you see. Yeah. You see that in the news. A lot of times when people pass away, people still use their Social Security numbers. Or if people live in housing complexes where they get cheap rent, they don't say that the individual died so they can keep the same rent. So you do see that a lot.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Dang. Well, I ain't thinking that back in the day.

[DJ Envy]

Because it's a crime. It's called identity.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's why you're talking about. I don't even. I wouldn't even do that now.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Fraud.

[DJ Envy]

Okay. You're not supposed to do that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Sorry.

[News Reporter]

But the administration is arguing that that's what's happening in the red states, who only knows what's happening in the blue states. So they want that information. And really quickly, while we're talking about the cost of living, President Trump is also taking the conversation in a very different direction. In a marathon Cabinet meeting, he's blasting Democrats for using the word affordability. Just a couple of weeks ago, that was his favorite word, and now he's calling it a scam and insisting that his administration isn't getting the credit that they deserve as things like gas and groceries have come down. He used that meeting to defend his record touting tariff drug prices and even suggesting that the 2028 Republican nominee was probably sitting at that Cabinet meeting. And as the pressure increases over the economy and those military strikes, Trump is maintaining that his policies are working and that Republicans need to stay the course and avoid more Democratic gains. So we will continue to watch that.

[DJ Envy]

As far as it's funny, though, because, you know, I was born in 1978, so I'm old enough to remember when Democrat James Carville was Bill Clinton's political advisor, and he said, it's the economy, stupid. So that means the primary concern of American voters is the state of the American economy. So, you know, in the modern era, the economy historically has done better under Democratic presidents. So technically, that's Democrat messaging, you know, and Madani took it here in New York City, and he's worked for him. But Trump kind of stole that messaging from Democrats, if you ask me.

[News Reporter]

He did, he did, but he's now calling it a scam. He's saying that it, you know, Democrats are calling. He's saying it's a con job, there's no such thing as affordability and things like that. And so I don't. It doesn't matter what party you're in. Red, blue, whatever. If you can't afford your groceries, if you can't afford to live, affordability is a main issue.

[DJ Envy]

That is a great point. It is a scam from politicians because it's not how people. It's not about what you say. It's about how people actually feel. You can talk about affordability all you want, but if people aren't feeling that in their pockets, it don't matter.

[Jordan Klepper]

That's right.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Thank you, Mimi.

[News Reporter]

All right, well, coming up at 7, it's holiday season, but it's also breakup season. We'll explain. I am in the triggers. Yes. In the next hour.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

And everybody else, get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need the vent, phone lines are wide open. Call us up right now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

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This is your time to get it off your chest.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Keep calling 800-585-1051.

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We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Hello?

[DJ Envy]

Who's this?

[Lovey]

Good morning, my Breakfast Club family. It's your boy Lovey from the Bronx.

[DJ Envy]

What's happening, yo?

[Lovey]

First of all, I want to say respectfully, shout out to Jess. She gonna be in my second home harbor ct.

[DJ Envy]

Yes.

[Lovey]

I might pull up on you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You got to. You got to.

[Lovey]

You told me I'm a kickstand dude.

[Jordan Klepper]

So you won't give me a hug.

[Lovey]

But I'm gonna pull up on you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, Lovey, thank you so much.

[Lovey]

But I do want to talk about the docu series because 50 is my guy. What's crazy is 50. Oh, first off, Envy, I'm sorry you had to go through that to get the industry, too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That was wild.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

I didn't have to go through anything, sir. I don't know what you're hinting at or what you're pointing towards.

[DJ Envy]

You don't understand what we talking about. Yesterday, Envy told us that, you know, he had to suck D to get.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

I did not say.

[DJ Envy]

And he puts 100% in every mix. He drops human resources, and I'm suing.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

These are definition of characters. I did not say any of that. Go ahead, Lovey, continue on.

[Lovey]

But you know what's crazy? I worked radio for 10 years, and I worked with 50. I actually partied at his mansion with him. I didn't see nothing like Diddy's house. But what's crazy about the Diddy doc is what got overlooked is how he is leading his son down that path. You know, us being parents, we're Supposed to lead our sons and put our kids in the best position to win what he's doing with his kids. You co sign that, Envy?

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

No, I don't co sign none of that. Nothing I seen on that doc I co signed. Nothing was cool about that doc. That. That doc showed a. A nasty individual that needs some. Some prayers. He needs some healing. He needs. He needs a whole lot. He needs some hugs. He needs. He needs a new team. He needs a whole lot. I don't co sign anything I've seen in that doc.

[Lovey]

And what's. What's crazy is the arrogance that he showed, just that he would film himself going through this. Like, who does that?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Well, thank you. Love you. Appreciate you, brother.

[Lovey]

Love you, King.

[DJ Envy]

Peace, King. I ain't seen the doc yet.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You watch? I didn't watch it either.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Yeah, I watched the.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The last.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

I watched the three episodes. I watched the fourth episode last night. And the fourth episode is where use a clip from the Breakfast Club audio.

[DJ Envy]

And the video, but talking about on the nipples.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

No, no, no, no. They were talking about Diddy still calling people after he was being investigated. We were just saying, like, who would do that? Yeah, that's what they. They took from that clip.

[DJ Envy]

Damn.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Yeah, but get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, Ray.

[DJ Envy]

Ray Ray.

[Lovey]

Yo, Charlamagne.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Envy, what up?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Are we live?

[Mimi Brown]

This is your time to get it.

[Lovey]

Off an indoor pool, A outdoor pool.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club.

[Lovey]

We can get on the phone right now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He'll tell you what it is.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Keep that mouth open. Hello? Who's this?

[DJ Envy]

This is your problem.

[Lovey]

Oh, my goodness. What's up, life skin? Hey, Envy.

[DJ Envy]

Peace, Trav.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

What's up, Trav?

[Lovey]

Hey, Charlamagne.

[DJ Envy]

Peace, sis, what's happening?

[Lovey]

Make sure you let Emmy and Jess know to tune in tonight. So we about to run the table, baby. And we going to the bowl. We about to go to the bowl. Tune in tonight. Envy, let's keep.

[DJ Envy]

Let's keep it calm, though. You know what I'm saying? I feel like the more we say that our cowboys suck, the better they play, so let's. Let's just keep it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Cowboys fan.

[DJ Envy]

Big cowboy fan. Come on, man.

[Lovey]

Broke Cowboys fan, baby.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, Trav.

[Lovey]

I get it for my daddy.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

He said broke back.

[DJ Envy]

Broke back. Traffic. Gay cowboys, yo.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, my God.

[Lovey]

Also. Hey, J. Cole, you need to drop.

[DJ Envy]

Some music if you listening.

[Lovey]

Cole, drop some music. Me and Charlamagne Miss you.

[DJ Envy]

No.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That'S right.

[DJ Envy]

Salute J. Cole. But no, I'm cool. I mean, when he dropped. I' ma definitely listen when he drop, I like Jason.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Bye, Trev.

[DJ Envy]

Bye.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Bye.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Hello? Who's this?

[Lovey]

Good morning, this is James Call from North Carolina.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

James from North Carolina. What's up? Get it off your chest, James.

[Lovey]

Yeah, good morning, everyone. I. I got a lot of horns envy with you and Charlamagne, bro. Y' all were mentioning all these classic Christmas songs and stuff. And y' all didn't even mention the Temptation, Silent Night or this Christmas. The original, not the Chris Brown version. Well, we did, miss, man.

[DJ Envy]

We did mention Temptation, Silent Night. But I'm gonna tell you the thing about Temptation, Silent Night, that song too long, man. By the time that song over, it's Valentine's Day.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Yeah, but that's back in the day.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I know they used Back in the.

[Lovey]

Day, but it's long. But it's good, man.

[Coca-Cola Announcer]

It's a classic, bro.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

They all had like solos.

[DJ Envy]

Also with that song. That song is like a Christmas Eve, Christmas Day song. You ain't listening to Temptation, Silent Night leading up to Christmas.

[Lauren LaRosa]

No.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, you're not.

[Lovey]

It doesn't feel like Christmas until I hear that, man. It doesn't feel like Christmas until I hear that.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

That's what I'm saying.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Stevie Wonder had a banging Christmas album too. Stevie Wonder, Stevie Wonder.

[DJ Envy]

I saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus. Naughty line.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, that was Jackson five.

[DJ Envy]

But that wasn't Jackson five.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You're a clown.

[DJ Envy]

You're right, Jackson. Jesus Christ.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Knowing he was lying. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up now. We got the latest with Lauren. I'm sure she gonna be breaking down more of the diddy doc. She got some. Some, I would say some first hand information about that doc yesterday. So she'll be breaking all that down. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Lauren becoming a straight face.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

She gets them from somebody that knows somebody.

[DJ Envy]

She gets the details.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything.

[DJ Envy]

She be having the latest.

[Coca-Cola Announcer]

The Latest with Lauren LaRosa.

[DJ Envy]

Sometimes you have facts, sometimes you have details. Sometimes you have a little bit of everything.

[Jordan Klepper]

Oh, it's the latest on the Breakfast Club. Talk to me.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Alrighty, y'.

[Jordan Klepper]

All.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So yesterday I was able to speak to Wayne Burrow, who it who worked with Ms. Violetta Wallace, who is the mother of Biggie Smalls and managing her son's estate. Now, he reached out to me or I reached out to him. And then he was like, okay, I'm willing to get on the phone with you. Because he says that a lot of people have been blowing them up following his documentary. And he want. Wanted to speak out. And he made it clear that this is on behalf of Ms. Violetta Wallace. He says there are a few allegations that he wanted to address from the doc. So number one, there's this allegation from the documentary that Diddy used Biggie's record label deal or his own money, Biggie's own money, to pay for Biggie's funeral. So Wayne tells me that that is completely not true, that he himself officiated the funeral and planned it along with Kirk Burrows who is in the documentary. Bad Boy staff and that Bad Boy paid for everything. At no point was there any IND that any royal on any royalty statement that this would be coming from Biggie's account. So the family never paid for anything in regards to the funeral. He said Bad Boy and Diddy covered everything from the color, from the cars to the police to the funeral itself, and they wanted to make that clear. He also says that it's disrespectful that anybody would even imply that, you know, Ms. Wallace, Biggie's mom, or any of his close friends would even be that naive to allow something like that to happen and not catch it as they're watching the royalty statements and just different things that are coming in. He also talked to me a bit about the contract conversation. So there is a claim in the doc, and this has been a claim that's been circulating for some time, that right before Biggie's passing, there was an issue with contract negotiations between Diddy and Biggie Smalls. He says that that is completely not true as well. He says that life after death was already done, so there was no contract negotiations happening. He says based on the sales and of the records and how everything was moving, they had already. Biggie had already recouped. So at that point there was nothing to be talked about. But they did go back into a negotiation because they put out more music following the death of Biggie Smalls. And the conversation they had then was just about how that would happen and, you know, how splits would be. But that whole conversation around the contract and there being an issue with that as well, there's nothing to talk about. He says the contract was the contract and people just need to leave it at that.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

And Barrow is Biggie's friend. He also managed Biggie at one point. He owned. Remember that? The. The. What was it? Called oh, Jesus Christ by Storm Entertainment, that's what they ran, which was a management company. I think they managed Shine at one point. They managed NAS at one point. They not managed, of course, Big. So he would know, right?

[Lauren LaRosa]

You mean Wayne Burrow?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, so he would know. And he also wanted to mention too that, you know, there was this Rolling Stone cover conversation in the documentary. They alleged that Diddy. So Biggie was supposed to have this like Rolling Stone cover. And Diddy stepped in the way of that and said, no, I got an album coming out, I want to you get on this cover. That was like a big point in the documentary. He says they had never. That never been brought to them. They had never had a conversation with anybody about a cover whatsoever. So he doesn't know that there's any truth to that as well either because they'd never had a conversation about it and they would have, you know. So.

[DJ Envy]

So who do y' all believe? Because, I mean, I didn't watch the doc, but wasn't it Kirk Burrows who was the co founder of Bad Boy and former president of Bad Boy who said that they. That they charged Biggie to stay for his funeral?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes.

[DJ Envy]

So who do y' all believe?

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

I.

[Lauren LaRosa]

If I have to. Wayne, bro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They brothers.

[Lovey]

No.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So it's.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

No.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, it's.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It's so I believe Wayne. And the only reason why I believe.

[DJ Envy]

Wayne is you shouldn't believe anybody. You're a journalist.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Well, you didn't. I didn't report from. I didn't report from what I believe. I report from what was actually said to me, in fact. But you asked me a question, so I'm answering. Why did you ask it?

[DJ Envy]

They don't mean you have to answer it. Stay on your toes.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Whatever, whatever. And I was going to say the only reason why if, if I am removing my journalist hat and just having an opinion after someone who watched the doc has been able to see both sides of it. I'm believing Wayne because he actively, up until the point that Ms. Wallace passed away, was still involved in the estate. And he was saying that they had a process that they would do where. And it was Ms. Wallace's wishes that they would do it this way where they're not checking accounts and royalty statements. Just one time. She checked everything twice. It was very important for her to make sure that the money and everything was like paid attention to very heavily because she wanted to make sure they didn't know anybody, anything, that they weren't up in, up under anybody and that they weren't being Taken advantage of because she wanted to make it where Biggie's kids and her grandkids could live a good life after he passed away. And after she left this house, would.

[DJ Envy]

She be paying attention to something that happened so long ago, though? Like in 1997, a funeral?

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

They said they was on it as soon as Big Pass. They said they were on top of every last dime dollar because they wanted to make sure that the kids would be straight for life.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, she said that was really important to her, even to the. Even down to the fact that. But when they decided not to go back into a deal after they knew that Biggie recouped, that was her decision to do that. So she has been on it since. And he did say to me that the only reason why he's addressing this, he's not going to speak to anybody else, but he wanted to speak to us and only wanted to address it because it's not fair for the people who, you know, are an extension of Biggie's legacy to have to be dealing with a lot of these rumors and these different allegations resurfacing when they're just trying to live their life. And this is actually family to someone. Someone lost a father and a. You know, so it's.

[DJ Envy]

Why wouldn't he tell the documentary makers, though? Because I'm sure the documentary makers reached out to the estate. Like, when you're doing a documentary on the level of this documentary, I am almost positive that they reached out to Biggie's estate to ask questions.

[Lauren LaRosa]

He said he didn't want to be bothered until he didn't have a choice but to be bothered.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, that's ridiculous. Because now that whatever he's saying, I don't know if that's the truth or not. I don't know if those are facts. But I noticed the narrative, because of the documentary is way bigger than anything that he could put out.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Now, I think they also told Lauren that they hate the fact that Biggie's name is mentioned in all his bs, that they didn't want Biggie's name in this bull crap. And that was. That was a part of it. But, like, what Charlamagne also said, like, you know, salute to Wayne. He's actually been on the show. But if. What's the other guy's name?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Kirk.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

If Kirk was doing the financing and he was the one that was paying.

[DJ Envy]

The people, he would know.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

It was like. It's kind of like both sides, you know what I mean? Because you can hide money, right? You can say that, you know, that we really paid for this producer when it went to this. I mean, but there's no ways but.

[DJ Envy]

And you can't discredit Kirk because Kirk was the co founder, bad boy and the president at the time.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, well, I mean, there's always two, three sides to a story, so I'm just here to present them all as much as I can.

[Coca-Cola Announcer]

Whoa, what a vibe we've got, y'.

[Mimi Brown]

All.

[Coca-Cola Announcer]

As always, it's classic HBCU energy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nonstop action, the band is rocking and the crowd lit.

[Coca-Cola Announcer]

Chance echoing, drums beating, everybody showing that school pride.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Moments like this, yeah, they call for.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

An ice cold Coca Cola.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Crisp and refreshing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's a game changer right there.

[DJ Envy]

Mmm.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Yeah, that taste always hit the right note.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Just like the band at halftime.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Passionate fans, school colors everywhere and an ice cold Coca Cola.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's a winning combo. No matter the place, no matter the moment.

[Coca-Cola Announcer]

Everybody knows fan work is thirsty work. So grab a Coca Cola and keep that HBCU pride going.

[Mimi Brown]

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[Coca-Cola Announcer]

I'm Robert Smith and this is Jacob Goldstein and we Used to host a show called Planet Money. And now we're back making this new podcast called Business History, about the best ideas and people and businesses in history and some of the worst people, horrible ideas, and destructive companies in the history of business. Having a genius idea without a need for it is nothing. It's like not having it at all. It's a very simple, elegant lesson. Make something people want. First episode, how Southwest airlines use cheap seats and free whiskey to fight its way into the airline business. The most Texas story ever. There's a lot of mavericks in that story. We're gonna have mavericks on the show. We've plenty of robber barons. So many robber barons. And you know what? They're not all bad. And we'll talk about some of the classic great moments of famous business geniuses, along with some of the darker moments that often get overlooked, like Thomas Edison and the electric chair. Listen to business history on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your boundaries Podcasts.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It's okay not to be okay sometimes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And be able to build strength and love within each other.

[DJ Envy]

Thanksgiving isn't just about food. It's a day for us to show up for one another. I'm Elliot Connie, host of the podcast Family Therapy, a series where real families come together to heal and find hope. What would be a clue that would.

[Coca-Cola Announcer]

Be like, I've gotten lots of text messages from him.

[Jordan Klepper]

This one's from a little bit better.

[News Reporter]

Of a version of him because he's feeding himself well. It's always a concern, like, are you eating well?

[Lauren LaRosa]

He's actually an amazing cook.

[Coca-Cola Announcer]

There was this one time where we.

[Lovey]

Had neighbors and I saved their dog.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I ended up inviting them over.

[Jordan Klepper]

For food, and that was, like, one.

[Lovey]

Of my proudest moments.

[DJ Envy]

This is family Therapy. Real families, real stories on a journey to heal together. Listen to season two of Family Therapy every Wednesday on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You already told us which one you believe.

[Lauren LaRosa]

No, I presented it first, and you asked me a question. I can believe what I can believe.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So Kirk and Wayne, cousins.

[Lauren LaRosa]

They're spelled differently. So Wayne. Wayne and Kirk is spelled differently.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The burrow.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah. Barrow. B A R O. B A R R O W. And then B U R R O W E S. Got you Burrows. And then borrow.

[DJ Envy]

Hey, these diddy leftovers have lasted longer than Thanksgiving.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

That's right.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Okay.

[DJ Envy]

I guess there's gonna be more and.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

More and more because people are coming out that people have been Talked about like.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Like it's still trending on X this morning. It was trending on X. I believe it was like number 5 or 6.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Finished watching it yesterday.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It's long and it just hit. I believe it just hit top 10 on Netflix.

[DJ Envy]

Let me look at what number one on Netflix.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I did. I just said let me look at the number you on me this morning.

[Mimi Brown]

Dang.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I would say I said it hit top 10. Let me look up.

[DJ Envy]

That's number one. I know that. I mean, I saw 50 posters.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I was headed to 50s.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Instagram post is number one. All right, well, that is the latest with Lauren. Thank you, Lauren.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You're welcome.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Now when we come back, we got front page news. Also, Jess will be fixing your mess. So if you have relationship issues or problems, you can call up 800-585-1051. Now, today is December 4th.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, now you're gonna acknowledge it? Now you want to acknowledge that it's December 4th.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

I handle the mix.

[DJ Envy]

It's the anniversary's death and it is Jay Z's born day.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

You got big pimping.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, this is.

Jay Z birthday.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

And you got, you know, pimping.

[DJ Envy]

I like how you got both of them. I like that.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

You got it. All right, let's. Let's get to that. And Happy birthday, dj.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He know what to do.

[Jordan Klepper]

Tell him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Exactly. You already know what's up.

[DJ Envy]

I don't know if he's a real dude.

[Jordan Klepper]

Shut up.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

It's the breakfast over here, everybody. Is DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get back in some front page news now. Thursday Night Football. The Cowboys take on the Detroit Lions at 8:15.

[DJ Envy]

Let's go, my Cowboys. Cowboy nation. That mean I'll be asleep by 9:15? So I'll wake up and find out who won.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Let's go, Detroit.

[DJ Envy]

What up, dude? Don't. Don't root again us, okay? Even though I know you always root for the D, Right? I know you. I know. I know you.

[Lovey]

Yes.

[DJ Envy]

Don't. Don't do that.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Help me.

[DJ Envy]

What's up? That's what you said.

[News Reporter]

All right, well, let me interrupt really quick.

[DJ Envy]

Don't you help that man with no D.

[News Reporter]

No, I gotta interrupt. We gotta interrupt. All right, y'.

[Mimi Brown]

All.

[News Reporter]

So good morning. We're gonna start this hour with the latest on the immigration raise. The Trump administration. He has now officially launched enforcement operations in both New Orleans and in Minnesota. In Minneapolis, DHS officials there in New Orleans say they are targeting criminal aliens. And they argue that the local sanctuary Policies, they let people get away with serious charges, including home invasion, armed robberies, and rape. Now, the Louisiana. The governor there, he says that he supports this move even as crime in New Orleans has been falling and it's on track to be at its lowest in more than 50 years. Now, the raids, they are already spreading fast in different communities. Families there say that they are staying in, they're skipping work, and they're keeping their children home because they are afraid to go out in public. And in Minneapolis, immigration operations are also underway in a region that's home to the largest Somali communities in the country. And this all comes a day after President Trump, he ended in his Cabinet meeting with a tirade against Somali immigrants and attacking Congresswoman Ilhan Omar. When he was asked about this yesterday in the Oval Office, he doubled down his criticism of Omar and the Somali people. Let's listen to some of that.

[Jordan Klepper]

They have a representative, Ilhan Omar.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

She shouldn't be allowed to be a.

[Jordan Klepper]

Congresswoman, and I'm sure people are looking at that, and she should be thrown the hell out of our country. And most of those people, they have destroyed Minnesota.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Okay, Minnesota, you have an incompetent governor.

[Jordan Klepper]

You have a crooked governor. He's crooked as hell, but Waltz is.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

He should be ashamed.

[Jordan Klepper]

And the Somalians should be out of here.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

They've destroyed our country, and all they.

[Jordan Klepper]

Do is complain, complain, complain. You have her. She's always talking about the Constitution. Provides me with.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Go back to your own country and.

[Jordan Klepper]

Figure out your Constitution.

[News Reporter]

Now. It's, yeah, Omar. She fled civil war in Somalia before becoming a U.S. citizen. She responded on X saying, his obsession with me is creepy. I hope he gets the help he desperately needs. Meanwhile, that rhetoric combined with the raids is sending fear throughout that Somali community. In Minnesota, residents say they are carrying passports, extra documents everywhere they go. Here's how one community member described it to a local news station in Minneapolis. Let's listen.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It is hurtful to be called garbage.

[Mimi Brown]

It's that act of looking over my shoulder which pains me because I am.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

A United States citizen.

[Mimi Brown]

This is my home, and I don't want to feel unsafe in my home. It's harassment disguised as law enforcement. There's a lot of fear right now and a lot of confusion because it has been said multiple times that a.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Lot of us are United States citizens.

[Mimi Brown]

So the elders in our community are.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Just are confused and they're scared for.

[Mimi Brown]

Their children, and they just want some type of hope and understanding of the situation.

[DJ Envy]

That's a damn shame. People who aren't Criminal aliens have to live in fear like that, you know, because it seems like ICE just profiles people.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right.

[DJ Envy]

And based off the videos we've seen, it's not like they got a sophisticated process when they approaching people to try to find out if they're, you know, criminal aliens and.

[News Reporter]

Yeah. Well, federal officials say they are not specifically targeting Somali families, but arrests may include anyone they believe violated immigration laws. And community advocates in Minnesota, they say the vast majority of Somalis in the state, they are citizens or have legal status. They estimate the actual number of undocumented Somalis just to be in the hundreds. So we'll continue to watch that. The administration has also paused immigration applicants from 19 countries. That includes Somalia. I believe the only country that they're still taking applications from is South Africa, so. And switching gears, it is officially the holiday season. Jess, the story is for you. The Rockefeller center tree, it was lit in New York last night. The lights were on, the crowds were out. And it's that time of year where the excitement is in the air, right? Family gatherings, holiday parties, tradition, all the little moments that make the. The season feels special. But there's another trend that people don't always talk about. So December is one of the biggest breakup months of the entire year. Relationship analysts say the timing isn't random. This is when all the expectations hit at once. I'm talking about talking about the future, meeting families, buying gifts in a tough economy, even when you're not sure where things stand. So experts say a lot of couples, they're choosing not to take that uncertainty or have that financial pressure into the holiday or into the new year. So there are two dates that you might want to circle, because this is when a lot of couples are calling it quit. So they're saying December 11, which is next week, and the Sunday right before Christmas. Those are the days when breakups spike. So if something feels off, just know that those are the weeks that people tend to get that. We need to talk text.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That is crazy. Relationship analysts really, really, like, did their research on that and realized that. That's so wild.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Well, you figured the Sunday before Christmas, people realize they ain't got no money.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

And they can't buy no gift. So you got to end it right then and there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know why December 11th ended, though.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Yes, you do.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, you don't.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

You feel special. You think you and your boo booed up, and then all of a sudden, he ain't get you nothing for Christmas.

[DJ Envy]

That's right. I mean, nowadays, people can't afford presents you know, me and women want to know what the relationship is, but I do want my brothers to know something. You can't go back until after Valentine's. You know what I'm saying? If you break up with them now, Valentine's is a whole other holiday. So you got. If you go back, you can't go back to life of Valentine's. Go back during March Madness. Okay. If you really want to create some razzle dazzle pack March Madness to continue to ruin your life.

[News Reporter]

Okay, that is crazy. Well, they say dating platforms, they see it too. They say activity jumps right after those dates. As newly single people, they reset headed into January. They don't wait till after Valentine's Day. But you're probably right. Charlamagne, they probably, like break up with you again right around that time.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Like you said, you gotta wa. After Valentine's.

[DJ Envy]

Wait till after Valentine's.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And.

[DJ Envy]

And I honestly break up now. Like, you know, it's early December. Don't wait till close to Christmas.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, that is a little petty.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

That.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's a lot petty. You should have did it, actually. You should have did it on Thanksgiving.

[DJ Envy]

You should have did it on Thanksgiving.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, cuz that's. That's too much, you leading people on. But I never thought about that. That this is the highest, like, breakup rate.

[Jordan Klepper]

Like, stressful.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I just never thought about it.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

You got kids and a girlfriend or whatever. Maybe you got to buy all that and your mama and your papa.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All you.

[Jordan Klepper]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And then December comes and it's like, sorry, what?

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

I'll be back February 15th.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn, that's so sad. Now when you come back and it's another guy over here doing the dude and what.

[News Reporter]

Right?

[DJ Envy]

It's crazy. And be talking like he know anything about you.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Yeah, I know I don't.

[DJ Envy]

You've been married forever.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

You talking about. Yeah, you're right, man.

[News Reporter]

But there's a lot of. There's a lot of other stress with this, right? I mean, the. You mentioned the gifts, but there's also meeting the family. People don't know they want to, you know, take you home yet. They said there was a lot of different reasons for why people are calling it quits in December. So December 11th is the first date and the Sunday after Christmas. So, I mean, the Sunday before Christmas. So it can get a little crazy right around those dates, guys.

[DJ Envy]

All the love bombers out there, man. Salute to all the. All the love bombers that came hard over this summer, you know, I mean, even maybe a little bit of September started acting a little funny. Around the holidays. Now they about to break up with bae.

[News Reporter]

All right, y'.

[Jordan Klepper]

All.

[News Reporter]

Well, that is your front page news. I'm Mimi Brown. Follow me at Mimi Brown tv. For more stories, follow the Black Information Network, Download the free iHeartRadio app or visit binnews.com.

[DJ Envy]

Thank you. Thank you, Mimi.

[News Reporter]

Thank you.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Now also coming up next hour, just fix my mess. So if you're having relationship issues or relationship problems, you can call Jess right now at 800-585-1051.

[Jordan Klepper]

Right.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

But when we come back, comedian Jordan Klepper will be joining us. He has a new special, Jordan Klepper fingers the Pulse. We'll get into it when we come back. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Jess. Hilarious Charlamagne the guy.

[Jordan Klepper]

We are the Breakfast Club.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Lauren the Rose is here as well. We got a special guest in the building. Yes, indeed, we have a comedian, Jordan Klepper. Welcome. How you feeling?

[Jordan Klepper]

I'm feeling good. How are you guys doing?

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

I'm doing well.

[DJ Envy]

Doing well. You always keep a project. Last time you was here was your last field piece, right? This time it's not field piece. You got a whole documentary.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Documentary.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah. Now you're here for your special, Jordan Klepper fingers the Pulse. Give the man a prize.

[Jordan Klepper]

Let me tell you. It's nothing but projects, you know, hard it is to keep health insurance in this country. You have to keep working constantly. And contractually I'm obligated to go out in the field and do special after special after special.

[DJ Envy]

So that could make you sick. So you're gonna need all that health care.

[Jordan Klepper]

I need that healthcare, trust me. I'm getting old, too. I got bad feet. I got weird shoulders. I wake up now, my hip doesn't work. So, yeah, I need to keep, I need to keep out there talking, talking to people about politics.

[DJ Envy]

Are you really a people person, Jordan? Do you like the people?

[Jordan Klepper]

Do I like the people?

[DJ Envy]

No, not like the people. Do you like to people? I call it peopleing. Do you like the people?

[Jordan Klepper]

You're using that as a verb.

[DJ Envy]

Yes.

[Jordan Klepper]

Do I like to people? I do. I feel comfortable peopleing. I think it's my Midwest nice. That makes me like jump into spaces, try to find commonality. I've met a lot of people, though. I definitely have. I have a love hate relationship with people. As a general idea. I've seen they're good. I've seen they're bad. There's a lot of them live somewhere in the middle. But I like getting to know them a little bit. I'll tell you, people off camera are so interesting to me and those are the people that I like the most. You know, I go into these maga worlds, I go into these strange spaces and the camera shifts. The way in which everybody talks about stuff makes them more certain, makes them more argumentative, makes them versions of themselves that they see online. And then that camera goes off and they got music interests, they got wives they have issues with, they have food interests, they have peccadillo's that you just sort of gravitate towards. So people without a camera on their face, those people, those are the best people.

[DJ Envy]

What about when you walk in a room and the camera's not on and somebody says, make me laugh?

[Jordan Klepper]

Yes, well, that.

[DJ Envy]

You're just a jester.

[Jordan Klepper]

You know what? Sometimes that happens. Sometimes you want to come on the Breakfast Club, you want to have a nice conversation, and then you walk into.

[Lauren LaRosa]

A room and I say, make me laugh.

[Jordan Klepper]

And the bar is set. Yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You get nervous because he said, do I look good? And I was like, you look great. Just make us laugh. Because. Because I thought as a comedian, when you were making people laugh, it makes you feel good. And I wanted you to feel comfortable and welcomed.

[Jordan Klepper]

You did?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And happy.

[Jordan Klepper]

Well, here's the problem as a comedian. You complimenting the way I look made me feel uncomfortable because my expectation. My expectation is I look. I look strange. I have ill fitting clothes. I think that's how I see myself. So you set me off my game by making me feel good about myself.

[DJ Envy]

Most me is yourself different.

[Jordan Klepper]

That's on you.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm so sorry. If you look, if you want me to, I could.

[Jordan Klepper]

What's wrong? Talk about the fit. Where did I go wrong?

[DJ Envy]

Go ahead, go.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Really? Let me do that. No, I don't.

[Jordan Klepper]

You don't have. No.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

This is.

[Jordan Klepper]

It's a new jacket. Is it okay?

[Lauren LaRosa]

I like the jacket. I just wouldn't have put it with that shirt that you have under there.

[Jordan Klepper]

It is. You're right.

[DJ Envy]

She's wearing a full leather onesie. And you're gonna take.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It's not a onesie.

[Jordan Klepper]

I was gonna say. I just don't know what to.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I did the jacket though, and I thought the hair was a good compliment to the jacket.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But.

[Lauren LaRosa]

But if you want me to talk bad. Yeah, I just. I felt you could have went with a lighter shirt.

[Jordan Klepper]

Lighter shirt?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah. Is it a thermal?

[Jordan Klepper]

It is a thermal.

[DJ Envy]

Because it's cold.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It is cold.

[Jordan Klepper]

But that is texture. There's texture on texture. You don't like that.

[Lauren LaRosa]

The textures are just very different.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

White T shirt.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I mean, do you do Uniqlo?

[Jordan Klepper]

I do.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Great. See, I know your brand. Yeah, they have really great T shirts that you could have put the thermal under, put the white T shirt, and then it would have. With the sneakers. I looked at your shoes and you talked about your feet. And I just thought.

[DJ Envy]

Why are you doing this?

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Yeah, why?

[DJ Envy]

What's wrong?

[Lauren LaRosa]

He told me to do it.

[Jordan Klepper]

I respect it. I respect it.

[DJ Envy]

I need it.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Is this the part of people that you like?

[Jordan Klepper]

We're right on the line right now, I gotta tell you. But, you know, I do specials. I do specials because I get health insurance. I do publicity, so I get fashion tips. I can't pay for a publicist. You're helping me here right now.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm just trying to help you feel comfortable. You told me to do it.

[Jordan Klepper]

I like it. I respect it. Now you don't want a graphic tee. You're saying a plain tee is the way to go with something like this?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, I think a plain tee would have been real chill, like. You seem, like, effortless.

[Jordan Klepper]

Oh, that's what you're getting out of this.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah. That's a good thing.

[Jordan Klepper]

No, I'll take effortless.

[DJ Envy]

She said, you seem effortless, but you actually tried this morning.

[Jordan Klepper]

I'm trying. There was so much effort put into this moment here. You can see it. It's bled into the interview.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

You did it last night. I can tell.

[Mimi Brown]

You did it last night.

[DJ Envy]

I'm about to kill with this, like.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

First day of school.

[Jordan Klepper]

Do you know I ironed this corduroy jacket?

[DJ Envy]

Damn.

[Jordan Klepper]

I don't even know if you supposed to iron a corduroy jacket steamer.

[DJ Envy]

Jesus Christ. At the office. Oh, so interesting, though.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Did you mess up the jacket?

[Jordan Klepper]

Wait, this is good. This is good intel. I didn't know. Yeah. You steam corduroy instead of ironing corduroy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, my God.

[Jordan Klepper]

No, this is helpful. I am.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Put a towel over it and steam it through the towel. You can do that, too.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Did you put the towel.

[Jordan Klepper]

I did not put the towel down.

[DJ Envy]

But, you know, Jordan is a real comedian. Because as soon as Lawrence said, make me laugh. Jordan. Jordan was like, I got a type five.

[Jordan Klepper]

I got it.

[DJ Envy]

What do you mean?

[Jordan Klepper]

You like airline food? I got. I got thoughts on that. Let's go.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Your new special, Jordan Clapper. Fingers the Pulse. Give the man a prize. Fingers the Post. Sounds crazy, but let's talk about this.

[DJ Envy]

Is that his name?

[Jordan Klepper]

Have you met Fingers the Post? That guy?

[DJ Envy]

Oh, boy.

[Jordan Klepper]

He's A bit handsy. Okay.

[DJ Envy]

Stay away.

[Jordan Klepper]

All right. He's got a rap. Don't look into him. Don't Google the guy.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Are you messing with MAGA people again, man? What's wrong with you? You just like, just.

[Jordan Klepper]

You know what? I like getting out there.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

I see.

[Jordan Klepper]

I like getting out there. This one was wild because we're trying to figure out what to do a special on. And two things were happening simultaneously. Like, Trump was sending troops into cities because he said it was World War II in Portland and Chicago. And at the same time, he wanted the Nobel Peace Prize. Cause he said he was the most peaceful guy on the planet.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Crazy, right?

[Jordan Klepper]

So we're like, all right, that's. That's hypocrisy. That makes for comedy and a special. So it's like, let's go after this Nobel Peace Prize desire and let's talk to people about, like, what's actually happening in these cities, which is chaotic. Absolutely.

[DJ Envy]

It's interesting too, because the special blends stand up with what you do in the field. What did you want audiences to understand about America that you couldn't capture just through field pieces or just with a stand up?

[Jordan Klepper]

Well, I mean, I think when you look at something like this, what peace looks like in America, what it feels like, what is so nice? We went to Portland, which was supposedly World War II. And if you're watching Fox News, if you're watching the right wing political sphere, all you're seeing is this is a war zone. This is chaos you never want to visit. We went there on the naked bike ride, which was a comical experience full of people dressed as. Some people who were naked, some people who were dressed as cartoon characters, all of them going outside an ICE facility to protest what they saw as inhumane treatment. It was comical, it was absurd. And then we saw ICE agents shoot pepper balls at these people dressed as cartoon characters. And for me, that's what America feels like right now. It's this absurdity, it's this violence. It's two different worlds clashing into one another. And so that's why we go out and do these field pieces. That's why we go out and do these specials is it's one thing to sit behind a desk and talk about what you see on camera, it's another thing to get out there and see it up close.

[Lauren LaRosa]

How do you measure the success of your pieces that you do? Because, like, it's comedy, but there's also, like, a deeper conversation that you want to start. Like, I know you want to Emmy for your Last one. So is it okay? Congratulations.

[Jordan Klepper]

Thank you.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Thank you.

[Jordan Klepper]

What you got now, Emmy wise? I had a couple at home. Yeah, it's pretty nice. Pretty nice.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Jordan Klepper]

And even with all that, I'm still so nervous about what I wear, you know?

[DJ Envy]

Exactly. You can't get that when you got Emmy.

[Jordan Klepper]

You think so, but you still care. I measure success with clicks. That's all that matters. Just clicks. Who is watching? How many clicks?

[Lauren LaRosa]

No, not really.

[DJ Envy]

You snort?

[Jordan Klepper]

Yeah, that was a healthy. That was a supportive snort. I'll take it.

[DJ Envy]

That's an honest answer.

[Jordan Klepper]

I wish I didn't look at it. And I can't say.

You know what? There's truth in that comedy. Okay, I'd like to know what I tried. Our intention in this is to find we're comedians in this crazy strange world. I came up an improv comedy guy, a comedy dude who suddenly thrust on the Daily show and I love it. And then the world sort of explodes. And our job is to find comedy in these chaotic times. And I think using comedy as a way to add context to a moment. And for people who aren't necessarily paying attention and watching Comedy Central at 11 o', clock, who might not be interested in politics suddenly to be paying attention to the Nobel Peace Prize race and what's happening in Portland, like, that's, that's, that's our intention is to like, engage in that conversation. And then late at night, when I feel good about my intentions and what I've done, I go on YouTube and I see how many people have watched it, and if it's not enough and I compare it to what else is out there, that I feel bad about myself. And then I talk to my agent and they're like, well, your contract's gonna be dependent on how successful the show is. And then you watch CNN and it talks about what's happening in the late night sphere. And then you worry about eyeballs and the attention economy and suddenly you have a breakdown when you come on a show like this and you're wearing something that's not exactly. I'm just. I can't get out of it, you know, I can't get my head outside of it.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm so sorry.

[DJ Envy]

This the only way to make specials special.

[Jordan Klepper]

Is this the only way to make special specials?

[DJ Envy]

How you doing for me?

[Jordan Klepper]

Yes. There's something improvisational about it. We. We knew we were gonna do a special three months ago. And the stuff that we do is current. You know, we were, we were editing up until yesterday. We were filming up until, like, A week ago. And for me, I've done specials that take a year. I've worked in the standup world, and you craft something over the course of years to put that special out. But for the Daily show, for Fingers the Pulse, what we do is we're like, what's the conversation right now? How do we make a larger argument about that conversation? And how do we keep it evolving up until the moment it goes out? So for me, that retains the improv spirit of keeping it, keeping it in the moment.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

I always wondered, when you go out and you're talking to these people, how does your wife feel? Like, I know it's a lot of.

[Jordan Klepper]

You gotta be nervous, right?

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

But how is it on her?

[Jordan Klepper]

She.

She gets a little stressed when we go into some hairy situations. Like, you know, she knows me, trust me, when I bring that argumentative stance back home, she is not as excited. Like, it's one thing to see the guy who goes out there and argues about politics on the road trying to find hypocrisy, but to bring that guy home and in the house is a tough thing for a wife and a loved one. So I feel for her in that position. As of the last few years, though, she is earnestly worried about what happens out there. You know, people are crazy. People are crazy. And I started going out there with no security, and now I go out there with four security guards, and there are threats that take place on the show, on the family, and again, when the camera's off, when you're talking to people face to face, people are lovely. People are not as bold and emboldened as they are online. But when you step back from that, there's hate, there's anger out there, and she fears for that. You know, we think about that, and I think this last six months, with some of the violent activities that we've all seen, like late night shows, people who are public, forward facing have to sort of reevaluate what that looks like. And it's. It's real and it's scary, and you try not to think too much about it.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

What was the incident that made you get four security guards? Cause you just don't go from having nobody to all of a sudden, 4. Something had to happen.

[Jordan Klepper]

It was. I was. I think the big moment for us was right before Trump's, when Trump lost his reelection campaign in 2020 and the Stop the Steal campaign, he had a giant event in the Capitol, and there were 50,000 people there. And I was interacting with people. And the Trump crew had gone from Being in power and successful to having lost an election, something they couldn't accept at the time. And so they were angry. And I think there was a shift from like, oh, this is playful. We don't like the media, but we will be playful with them. Suddenly I was pushing somebody in an interview and it was getting a little bit contentious, and the people around it who had nothing to do eyed on that started to create two to three to 10, to 15 to 30 people. And it became a mob of angry people. And security had to extricate me from the situation and run out, throw me in a van kind of a situation. They chased me, they chased me. And it's that mob mentality that you saw a month and a half later at January 6, where it is a bunch of people with nothing to do, emboldened by a president who told him that you're a patriot and that the media is the enemy of all people. And they see that. And literally, I don't think a lot of the people who chased me had that intention. But a minute and a half earlier, bored people walking around emboldened by a president see something that they can do and their brain turns off and they just. They just chase. And so when we encountered with that, it was like, all right, we have to be prepared for this. And quite frankly, when we go to rallies and events now, we have to be tactical about where we are, because we're in a space where we can't get out of. And that mob.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Again, you do it close to the car now.

[Jordan Klepper]

Now I do it close to the car. We're always close to the car.

And you know what? I'm gonna amend my comment about people. I think person is easy, people is tough. And that was the case on the road. I can talk one on one to that person. When they become people, they start to lose accountability. And that's what you can't rationalize with.

[DJ Envy]

It's kinda like groupthink.

[Jordan Klepper]

It's groupthink all the way.

[DJ Envy]

You ever think about keeping like a MAGA hat in your back pocket just in case you just throw it on.

[Jordan Klepper]

You know what I mean?

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

The sky.

[Jordan Klepper]

Yes. I will say our producers have specific colored hats and apparel to wear so that we blend in.

[DJ Envy]

Really?

[Jordan Klepper]

Yeah, for sure.

[DJ Envy]

So, like, red hats, they may not say MAG on it, but just red hats.

[Jordan Klepper]

Our producer, Ian Berger, wears a red hockey hat from some minor league hockey team in Canada. It's got a red hat with, like a Mustang on it that looks like. Looks like it's part of the team. It's tribalism out there, right? You walk out there and if you're wearing the red, you're wearing that, you're on the, the team and people are open. There are no black people out there. There are not.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Do you feel like it's worth it, like, what you do and putting yourself kind of like in the mix of these people who could have that mentality and having to beef up security And I do.

[Jordan Klepper]

I, I love engaging with people. And I do, for me, what is most effective or interesting about what I do is when, like, I feel like I'm stress testing propaganda. The stuff that you hear being fed to people on all these, on all these news shows, like, where does it actually land with the American public? And if I can go out there and I can find that hypocrisy, if I can, like, at its most revealing moments, I'm having a conversation with somebody on the road who has not had a conversation and thought through their point of view until this very moment. Like, we all just accept these points of view, these opinions, these certainties that are fed us without, like friends and cohorts who push you on it. Like, we're in these bubbles. A lot of the people I talk to are in media bubbles. They're in friend bubbles, they're in Facebook bubbles. And when I come out here and I ask you, why do you think that thing. They haven't thought through it. And in that moment they have to articulate that. My job is to find comedy in it, some context in it. But hopefully there's a little moment of revelation where you see that person be that person again and you see the bs and so. So, yeah, for me, with that and a little bit of health insurance, it feels like it's worth it.

[DJ Envy]

So for you, at what point does comedy stop being funny and start becoming like a public service?

[Jordan Klepper]

Start being a public service? That's a, that's a great question. I mean, you know, with the Daily show, like, John always talks. We are a comedy show. That is our bias. And I think that's what is compelling about people when they watch a show like that. They know our bias. All these shows have bias. The Daily show has a bias towards comedy, calling out the BS where they see it. So we're always approaching it from that. And also, I am not a journalist. I rely on the work of good journalists to tell these stories to get good information and that we want to keep that clear. And I don't want to get over my skis in doing that. And in some of these situations, Comedy has very little space to be and maybe shouldn't be there. So for us, again with this special, we wanted to go to Portland. We wanted to go to Chicago, because I've seen images of what's happening with ice raids, and they're heartbreaking and they're terrifying. And when you have a microphone and a camera, you're like, how do I point it at these things that I think are really important to talk about? But also, what, me going in there making jokes, when is that helping a situation? When is that becoming more activist and more comedian? And how do I, like, take what I want to say but still add the thing that I can do, which is comedy, quite literally. For this special, there was a naked bike ride. And so for us, we're like, all right, here's a comedic take on what is happening in this chaotic space. So let's use that so we can tell a story. Because at that point, if I'm just getting out there and just becoming an activist on television, trying to tell you what I think, like, I don't serve a purpose. I'm not speaking a language that I'm most fluent in, and I'm not being effective to an audience base who understands I'm going after comedy and bs. So I try to keep that as my North Star.

[DJ Envy]

So the naked bike ride was like, naked, Naked.

[Jordan Klepper]

It was naked. Naked. They were all there, my friend. They were all there. We thought nobody would show up 10 minutes beforehand. There's like one or two naked dudes there, all out. By the end, there were hundreds getting on bikes on cold, cold Portland day hopping on these.

[DJ Envy]

A lot of shrinkage.

[Jordan Klepper]

There's a lot of shrinkage. I gotta tell you, I.

[DJ Envy]

You stopped riding bikes too soon. Used to be a bike rider.

[Jordan Klepper]

You did. Would you have gone naked?

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

No.

[Jordan Klepper]

For the cause. But for the cause?

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

No, I wouldn't.

[DJ Envy]

Close.

[Jordan Klepper]

You would have gone.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

And I don't want to be behind anybody that rides bike either. That's just a little weird. See an asshole. It's not my thing.

[Jordan Klepper]

What's interesting is it's shocking for the first 20 minutes, but when you're around 200 naked people for an hour or so, you get comfy.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

So you did it too?

[Jordan Klepper]

I stripped down to an uncomfortable degree. Got on a bike, rode that bike.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Don't your ass hurt, though?

[Jordan Klepper]

Does my ass hurt? Yes, But I mostly think. I mean, the ass doesn't feel good. The ego feels poor.

[DJ Envy]

No, no.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Because the seat is hard.

[Jordan Klepper]

The seat's very hard. Right.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

But usually if you have clothes, there's more padding. So if there's no padding, that's just right up your butthole.

[Jordan Klepper]

You're thinking more about what's happening up front, though. You're worried about that. How it's being perceived.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Oh, yeah.

[Jordan Klepper]

How it's being squished, like, because you.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Got to put it on the left or the right side of the seat.

[Jordan Klepper]

You choose. You choose. Although if.

[DJ Envy]

If it's a bunch of.

[Jordan Klepper]

I'm talking about the. They're talking about a little bit of everything. Although that is a benefit of the cold, is you don't necessarily have to choose if it's cold enough.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, great.

[Jordan Klepper]

You. There's a recession that takes place with everything, which makes choice irrelevant. You have a small penis is what I'm saying at this point, we don't. Okay, you got it. I just want to be clear.

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[Jordan Klepper]

All.

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Yeah, that taste always hits the right note. Just like the band at halftime. And just like that, we're back at it. Passionate fans, school colors everywhere and an ice cold Coca Cola. That's a winning combo no matter the sport, no matter the yard. Everybody knows fan work is thirsty work. So grab a Coca Cola and keep that mind in HBCU pride going.

[Mimi Brown]

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[Lauren LaRosa]

It's okay not to be okay sometimes.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

And be able to build strength and.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Love within each other.

[DJ Envy]

Thanksgiving isn't just about food. It's a day for us to show up for one another. I'm Eliot Khani, host of the podcast Family Therapy, a series where real families come together to heal and find hope. What would be a clue that would be like?

[Coca-Cola Announcer]

I've gotten lots of text messages from him.

[Jordan Klepper]

This one's from a little bit better.

[News Reporter]

Of a version of him because he's feeding himself well. It's always a concern, like, are you eating well?

[Lauren LaRosa]

He's actually an amazing cook.

[Coca-Cola Announcer]

There was this one time where we.

[Lovey]

Had nate neighbors and I saved their.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Dog and I ended up inviting them over for food. And that was, like, one of my proudest moments.

[DJ Envy]

This is family therapy. Real families, real stories on a journey to heal together. Listen to season two of Family Therapy every Wednesday on the Black Effect Podcast Network. IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Coca-Cola Announcer]

I'm Robert Smith, and this is Jacob Goldstein, and we used to host a show called Planet Money. And now we're back making this new podcast called Business History, about the best ideas and people and businesses in history and some of the worst people, horrible ideas and destructive companies in the history of business. Having a genius idea without a need for it is nothing. It's like not having it at all. It's a very simple, elegant lesson. Make something people want. First episode, how Southwest Airlines use cheap seats and free whiskey to fight its way into the airline business. The most Texas story ever. There's a lot of mavericks in that story. We're gonna have mavericks on the show. We have plenty of robber barons. So many robber barons. And you know what? They're not all bad. And we'll talk about some of the classic great moments of famous business geniuses, along with some of the darker moments that often get overlooked, like Thomas Edison and the electric chair. Listen to business history on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Jordan Klepper]

I'm trying to paint a Picture.

[DJ Envy]

All stereotypes aren't true.

[Jordan Klepper]

Okay, this is good to know. Let's be real.

[DJ Envy]

Do you feel like Donald Trump overlooks the Daily Show?

[Jordan Klepper]

Yes.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

I wonder why.

[Jordan Klepper]

Thank God. Thank God. I don't think he has cable. I think that man, I think that man, that man, he's got NBC. He still watches the, the channels he watched 30 years ago. He wants. Watches Fox. He definitely watches Fox, but I don't think he's like the grandparent who's got those few channels, knows how to get to those few channels and doesn't know how to get to the other channels. And so thank the Lord he's not paying attention to the Daily Show. He's got his own fish to fry.

[DJ Envy]

I wonder, though, with his influence that he clearly has at Paramount, will he, you know, maybe flex his muscle behind.

[Jordan Klepper]

I just don't want him to pay any attention to us.

Well, there's different rules with the FCC and cable tv, and so I think that may play into it as well. But that man fixes his eyes on the stuff that's right in front of him at all times. And it's pretty clear the things that he watches and gets angry about. So, so as I promote this, I pray to God he's not listening to the Breakfast Club because again, oh, no.

[Lauren LaRosa]

He listens to us. He calls Charlamagne asleep.

[Jordan Klepper]

I know he's not been super happy.

[DJ Envy]

With Charlamagne, but that's because I was on Laura Charles. Trump showed it.

[Jordan Klepper]

That's what it was, right? Yes, yes. Did you, did you get blowback from the Maga circle? Did you have any interaction with people?

[DJ Envy]

Oh, you know what's so interesting? When I did that conversation with Lara Trump and my business partner said this to me, he was like, there's a lot of people that are agreeing with the things that you're saying, because I'm just, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not on there talking right or left or even black or white. I'm just talking about affordability and, and keeping people safe in this country. You know, I don't feel like he's doing a good job of that right now. That's a simple conversation. We all can connect over the economy.

[Jordan Klepper]

Yeah, I mean, I think that's, it was amazing to see, like, Zoran in the Oval Office and how, like, yeah, the economy and affordability, that speaks to the right. If people can get on those spaces and talk about that, I think there's an effective lane for a lot of those Fox viewers or what have you who are in that bubble to be like, oh, no, this is a conversation that's happening across party lines.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, I love people like you, Jordan, because you actually be out in the field talking to people. When you're out in the field, from your vantage point, does America feel more divided or just more recorded?

[Jordan Klepper]

Can I say both? We are more divided. We are 100% more divided. We are pushed to that space. But like I said, it's the recording of the divisiveness that takes away our autonomy of thought. I think you can break through, I think, but people are angry, and there are less people who are excited about the MAGA machine than there ever were beforehand. There were less people excited about the Democratic machine than there ever were beforehand. I think that's what happened in this last election. And so you go out there now and, yeah, people are pissed off, they're angry, and they're more certain than they've ever been because there's recording devices on them. But there's still a glimmer of hope of, like, they want to talk about affordability. I went to Mississippi and I talked to a bunch of MAGA supporters. What was curious is they were all afraid of places like Portland and Chicago because of what the MAGA spheres told them about these big cities. Afraid of all big cities. And the older people were afraid of Antifa because that's the narrative that Trump pushes the younger people. Every time I asked them about things like antifa, no interest, didn't care and realized in that moment, you're like, oh, some of these narratives that are being ginned up to. To be divisive and push people apart. The boogeyman, the antifa boogeyman. The old people buy in, hook, line and sneaker, and they love it. And they're afraid and they're changing the way they think because of that. The young people are too smart for that. And they don't. They're not as deep in as some of these other folks who are in it to win it. And so I see those moments, I have optimism where like, oh, these kids. These kids are easily swaying, but are not, but are not who haven't been watching the show for 20 years. Like the old folks who are making some of these decisions. This younger generation is just tuning in. They're not buying some of these boogeymen that the Trump administration's putting out. And there is a space to have conversation with those folks about things that they care about. Maybe we see that in the midterms. Maybe we see that in the next year. But not everybody's completely all in on that Trump train, so.

[DJ Envy]

That's a great point. What's scarier to you then people who believe these wild conspiracy theories are the.

[Jordan Klepper]

People who knowingly watch, the people who knowingly weaponize that. I think it's the people who wield it. I think that's where there's like no moral core where, you know, it's one thing to be afraid of stuff, and then out of self preservation, which, hey, that's. That's how most of us move through life. What is the next thing I need to do to pay my rent, to have health insurance for my kids, to keep food on the table? What do I need to do? Is there a way I can believe the things I need to believe to sustain that? I get that. I empathize with that. That makes you human. It's the people who know better. Those are the folks that are real scary here. And I wish our elected officials would stand up and be the people who know better. But you know, I've been around long enough not to have that faith in those institutions anymore. Yeah, you hope a little bit at some of that morality we always talked about in schools and the Declaration of Independence talks about. You hope that sort of makes its way back into political discourse again. Yeah, that's a pretty good one, I gotta tell ya. And hearing all this religious talk on the right too, it's like, yeah, there's a lot of good ideals there that you wish we believed in. And I think a lot of people do. They're just more focused on putting food on the table to actually engage in that larger conversation.

[DJ Envy]

So what gives you hope about America right now?

[Jordan Klepper]

You want me to find hope in all of this? You know what, what gives me hope about America is a naked guy protesting out front of an ice facility. Like you're wondering if people have tuned out apathy. That's what, that's what the right. That's what the far right wants. They want apathy. They don't want you to care if you show up with your balls out your out on a rainy Portland day to like go outside of an ice facility and be like, I don't want them to use my image to be painted as a bad guy. So much so that I'm willing to be naked in front of all these folks to look like a fool, because I think what's happening inside is inhumane. Like that. That is helpful to me.

[DJ Envy]

Let your hang. Literally.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Jordan Klepper, ladies and gentlemen. Definitely check out the special next Monday on Comedy Central. And thank you for joining us.

[Jordan Klepper]

Thanks for having me.

[DJ Envy]

Did he make you laugh, Lauren?

[Lauren LaRosa]

He did.

[DJ Envy]

Okay.

[News Reporter]

Yes.

[DJ Envy]

The Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Let's get to the latest with Lauren.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Lauren becoming a straight fat.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

She gets him from somebody that knows somebody.

[DJ Envy]

She gets the details.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything.

[DJ Envy]

She be having the latest on this.

[Coca-Cola Announcer]

The Latest with Lauren LaRosa.

[DJ Envy]

Sometimes you have facts, sometimes you have details. Sometimes she have a little bit of everything.

[Coca-Cola Announcer]

Well, it's the latest on the Breakfast Club.

[DJ Envy]

Talk to me.

[Lauren LaRosa]

All right, y'.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So y' all remember yesterday we did the conversation about Ray J, and he was saying, brand, Beyonce, Jay Z, come take some pictures with Brandi, Right? I got so many phone calls yesterday. Like, I didn't even go looking for this. I got so many phone calls yesterday.

[DJ Envy]

From Ray J. I just.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It was not. No, no, no. It was not Ray J. Let's be very clear. I did not talk to Ray J about this story. That is not the sources that I spoke to. But yesterday I got calls from people that are close to the tour and people that would know who called me and said, hey, you know, I saw the report and now there's video circulating online of, you know, Brandi walking right past Beyonce backstage and just different things. And they're like, they don't fool with each other. Like, they don't like saying Brandi. Yeah. So from what I'm told.

[DJ Envy]

Hold on now. Let me.

[Lauren LaRosa]

From what I'm told they do. They do not fool with. I mean, Jess, you made a comment yesterday. You said you can't miss Brandi at that tour.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

So what, you know, Jess.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And no, I don't know. I will say. I will say, though, that comment when. When the person called me, they said, I just want to, you know, think thank Jess for, you know, making a point that makes sense because you can't miss bring it the tour. But from what I was told is that, you know, at one point there was a cordial relationship. I was told that Kelly Rowland and Brandi actually used to be pretty close. But even that has subsided in years. But, yeah, there's been this whole thing. And from what I was told from the sources is that this kind of lingered from Beyonce came up and became the girl. Brandi is the girl. And they both are still phenomenal, iconic women in what they do. But at some point during Beyonce's climb, things kind of got a little bit rocky and they haven't established anything better friendship wise from that point.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

So you're saying that Lauren LaRosa is saying that Brandi and Beyonce don't rock with each other.

[Lauren LaRosa]

From what I'm being told.

[DJ Envy]

Yes, Laura. Laura's sources are saying. My sources are saying, put that on.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm just here reporting, and we don't.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Know the reason why.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I mean, I was. I was pointed to a bunch of different things. So like, I said that there was a conversation around, like, you know, Beyonce's come up and, you know, Brandy's take on that and then some other things that I'll get into, I'm sure, because I'll get some more calls after this conversation.

[DJ Envy]

Original going live right now, about 20, 30 minutes.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Who you like better?

[DJ Envy]

Better? Don't answer it. Don't answer.

[Jordan Klepper]

Don't answer.

[DJ Envy]

That's a good question.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Y' all always trying to get me a B. I love both of those women. They are both iconic. I said that about 50 seconds ago. But yeah, so that's what I've been told. So, I mean, all this stuff is circulating now, and I'm sure I'll be providing more and maybe some people may be screaming at us after this, but we'll be back to have the conversation.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know who is us.

[DJ Envy]

We ain't report this.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Me, we're here. I will say, though, from what I was told, it's not like a. My God, I hate her. It's super malicious. It's just. They just don't. They're just so.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Brandy don't want her. She want to be down, but not with her.

[DJ Envy]

Damn.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Exactly.

[DJ Envy]

You just reporting what your sources told.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Exactly. Now, in other news, speaking of not being down with somebody, Holly Berry is not here for Gavin Newsome whatsoever. Okay? So yesterday, Charlemagne, I know you were at this event yesterday. Holly Berry, she spoke and she said that Gavin Newsome has overlooked women and should not be president. Let's take a listen.

[Mimi Brown]

Back in my great state of California, my very own governor Gavin Newsom has vetoed our menopause bill not one, but two years in a row. But that's okay because he's not going to be governor forever. And with the way he's overlooked women, half the population by devaluing us in midlife, he probably should not be our next president either. Just saying. I need every woman in this country to fight with me. But the truth is, the fight isn't just for us women. We need men, too. We need you to have the conversation anyway. Because when women are struggling silently through perimenopause and menopause, trying to hold Their families, careers, relationships, and communities together. It doesn't just affect women. It affects every household. It affects the workplace. It affects the economy. One in six women leave the workplace due to their menopausal symptoms.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, that was at the New York Times Deal Book Summit.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Deal Book Summit.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[DJ Envy]

I spoke on a panel there yesterday as well. But you know what was so interesting about that conversation? Gavin came on shortly after that.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Really?

[DJ Envy]

Yes. Like, I, I want to say he was the next panel after.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Did he respond?

[DJ Envy]

I don't know.

[Lauren LaRosa]

We're trying to find. We're trying to find the audio from. So this is just beginning to circulate, but we're trying to find the audio now from Gavin's conversation to check to see if he mentioned anything whatsoever. It would, honestly, I feel like it would be very in, you know, on brand for him to have at least acknowledged it would only make sense for.

[DJ Envy]

The interviewer to act. Ask, ask, ask him. Especially when it just happened, you know, at their event. But, you know, Holly was like, I'm 56, and she literally said, I have zero Fs to give anymore.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right up.

[DJ Envy]

A lot of people got criticism of Gavin Newsome in that way, though. I mean, people criticize him about, you know, the way he handled homelessness in California, the housing crisis in home in California. So, I mean, it's fair. She's a resident of California. That's fair criticism.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Well, I mean, she don't like a bill.

[DJ Envy]

He, he didn't approve. I, I, I don't see nothing wrong with what she said.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah. And people. I don't the gasp and awe and people were like, oh, shoot, Halle Berry.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They're like, wow.

[Lauren LaRosa]

But she be straight at him on. I don't know if y' all follow her on ex. Oh, you can't play with Halle Berry on no social platform. She gonna respond. She gonna tell you how she feel, what it is, what it's not. She is not to be played with.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

She's at the point in her life.

[DJ Envy]

She don't kiss Gavin Newsom. Governor Newsom was there, like I'm telling you. I think he was the next panel right after.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

That's good. She had a point where she don't care. She gonna say how she feel.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Feel what she said.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I know that's right.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Well, speaking of, you know, people getting some oohs, ahs, and pushback. Tabitha Brown, y' all remember when Tabitha Brown was going through it because of Target and DEI influencer, and now she. And she has all these things with Sabatha Brown.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

She was up here recently, right?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, yeah, she was here recently. She actually was speaking to Kev on stage on his podcast and said that she had to beef up her security during that time. Let's take a listen.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It was just hurtful that people would go to that extreme. I mean, you know, I had to.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Heighten my security because, like, people were.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, approaching me and trying to, like.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It got bad for a minute, you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Know, the messages, the threats. I was like, y', all, I'm not the enemy. I'm for the people.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I just happen to be in business.

[Mimi Brown]

With at this time, the enemy.

[Lovey]

That's the part I think that hurt.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Me the most, because even.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Even through it all, I still love my people.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And my hope is that we all can, like, learn.

[DJ Envy]

Do you ever wish you would have just left your first video and not made the second one?

[Lauren LaRosa]

I think about that all the time.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But I would be a hypocrite if.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I had never said anything.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Knowing that all the people in the small businesses who were asking for help and calling, I just felt responsible to speak up for the other businesses.

[Lovey]

You know what I'm saying?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Like, I don't regret it, but, I mean, there are.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'd be like, I should have just.

[Lovey]

Let people run with their imagination.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah. That's kind of crazy to have to, you know, beef up security and look over your shoulder and she got kids and all of that over your decision to, you know, stay with the retailer. Like, I don't.

[DJ Envy]

Tabitha Brown did nothing wrong. Yeah. And. And the fact people even can fix their brains to think Tabitha Brown is not for the people is insanity to me. And the fact that she has to beef up her security because of threats from her own people is insanity.

[News Reporter]

Yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Especially when she's so. For the people and for the entrepreneur and for the. You know, you don't have to love everything everybody does. But to. She said, like, getting threats and then.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And did you even even hear her say or her gracious ass. She said, it's okay. I love my people through it all.

[Jordan Klepper]

That's right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What? Shane.

[DJ Envy]

That's what Minister Farrakhan said.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Clapping back, man.

[DJ Envy]

Minister Farragut said, you gotta love these. Even though they hate themselves.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, that. That's crazy.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah. Well, that was from not my best moment with Kevin station. You could go take a listen to that full interview series.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I love Kev on Stage podcast. I love his show.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Actually, I misquoted Mr. Farhan. That was a little bit more me. But Mr. Farhan says you have to love black people more. Than they hate themselves.

[Jordan Klepper]

Yeah, you.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

We knew you through the Negroes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

We knew you through.

[DJ Envy]

Don't, don't think the minister won't drop a N word on, okay? Sometimes ain't nothing else to call you.

What is wrong with you?

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Well, who you giving your donkey to, bro?

[DJ Envy]

Speaking it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, my God.

[DJ Envy]

There's a Florida man named John Fuller who needs to come to the front of the congregation. We like to have a. A word with this man.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

I wonder if they did the percentage of how many people you gave a donkey to in Florida.

[DJ Envy]

It's not my fault.

[Lauren LaRosa]

When I be out there, be seeing that, like, tell Charlamagne, leave Florida alone.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Intro for Florida.

[Coca-Cola Announcer]

That's crazy.

[DJ Envy]

All right? By the way, Florida is cra. Everybody know Florida is a crazy ass state, okay? The whole GTA 6 is about to be based off how crazy Florida is. They got a show on HBO called Florida man with nothing but crazy people from Florida.

[Lauren LaRosa]

When I used to fly for Delta, people used to want extra money for having to work the Florida flight.

[DJ Envy]

You see what I'm saying?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I just did promo because I got shows in Connecticut, yo. And the guy had asked me, he's like, so what is. What is one of the. The most rowdiest, craziest cities you ever. I said Jacksonville, Florida. Crazy.

[Lauren LaRosa]

See, before I love you. When I come to Miami for our basel this weekend, show me love our basel or art.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Basil.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Basil. Basil. Basil. I'll be there.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Be a lot of chores. December 6th, McDonald's, Florida.

[DJ Envy]

Your reputation precedes you, donkey. Today is up next.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Make sure you tell them to watch.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Out for Florida man.

[DJ Envy]

Craziest people in America come from the Bronx and all of floor. Yes, you are a donkey.

[Mimi Brown]

A Florida man attacked an ATM for a very strange reason.

[News Reporter]

It gave him too much money.

[Mimi Brown]

Florida man is arrested after deputies say he rigged the door to his home.

[Lauren LaRosa]

In an attempt to electrocute his pregnant wife.

[Mimi Brown]

Police arrested an Orlando man for attacking.

[DJ Envy]

A flamingo with the Breakfast Club, bitches.

[Coca-Cola Announcer]

Donkey of the day with Charlemagne, the guy.

[DJ Envy]

I don't know why y' all keep letting him get y' all like this. It is not me, Little Duvall. It's Florida. Okay, Donkey of the day for Thursday, December 4th. Fourth goes to a 31 year old Florida man named John Fuller. Okay, what does your Uncle Charlotte always say about the great state of Florida? The craziest people in America come from the Bronx and all of Florida. And today is no different. Now, John has been charged with first degree murder and he's pleaded not guilty. I'M sure every murderer in Florida pleads not guilty, but John is being accused of killing 28 year old Cameron Hoylett. Why did John kill Cameron? Well, let's go to NBC2 for the report, please.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

31 year old John Christopher Fuller has been charged with murder after the Thanksgiving Day shooting of his girlfriend's co worker at her Maitland apartment. Maitland police arrived at Summit center way around 12:15pm and found 28 year old Cameron Hoylett shot and lying on the bedroom floor. Police say Fuller's girlfriend Nyla Lindsay told detectives she was redoing her co worker's hair. When the suspect arrived at her door, an argument broke out and the police report says the victim stated if there was a problem he would just leave and that he only came to get his hair braided. Without warning, the defendant pulled out a firearm and shot the victim in the face. The arrest report goes on to say.

[Mimi Brown]

That Fuller and his girlfriend had been in a relationship for nearly a year and a half. She moved here from West Palm beach.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

About two months ago and it also says that he found a job nearby and would move soon. She told detectives due to the long distance relationship, they began having issues and the defendant started accusing her of cheating. She told police she'd been upset with him for not being truthful about the potential job he mentioned because he lied about the start date.

[DJ Envy]

First things first. Rest in peace, Cameron Hoylett. Okay. What a senseless murder. John, there is no way on God's green earth that you did your jail made math and this made sense to you. I tell y' all all the time, you know what jail math is, okay? Before you commit whatever crime your mind tells you to commit in the moment, simply ask yourself, can you afford to do this? Can you afford the time you will spend in jail or prison? Can you afford the lawyer? Can you afford the bail? When it comes to murder, the answer is usually no. No, no in hell no. Okay? Which they. Which usually just means sit your stupid ass down somewhere, okay? I would never understand throwing your life away because of a woman. A woman don't want to be with you. Like you and your lady was having some problems. It was a long distance relationship. You thought she was cheating. She was nine months pregnant with your child. The day before Thanksgiving, you called her. She said you. You said you missed her, you wanted to come over. She told you no, she was busy. She had plans. You ignored her and came to the apartment anyway. You knocked on her door, she answered and told you, I'm braiding someone's hair. And I told you not to come over. You didn't listen. Listen. You let your emotions get the best of you. You proceed past her, went into her home. She didn't even stop you, John. She didn't even stop you because in the police report, it says she just assumed he was just gonna watch her braid the victim's hair. Okay? Then you hear what they said in the news report. You know, John approached the young man, Cameron. Cameron wasn't leading with ego. Cameron said if there was a problem, he would just leave. I only came to get my hair braided, okay? It's Thanksgiving. I just want to get my hair braided, have a fresh do, going about my business business. Then John, without warning, pulls out a firearm, shoots Cameron in the face.

My brothers emotion can be the enemy, okay? If you give in to your emotion, you lose yourself. You must be at one with your emotions because the body always follows the mind. That's Bruce Lee. The emotions of man are stirred more quickly than man's intelligence. That's Oscar Wilde. Now, baby girl done dumped me. She no longer wants me. I'm no longer hired. She said that I've been fired. On to the next one. More fish in the sea. Girls are like, like buses. Miss one next 15. One coming. That's Roderick Davis, aka Gucci Mane. Okay? She don't want to be with you. So what, John, all right? She's having your child now. That child will not have a father. Guess what else, John? In Florida, first degree murder is a capital felony. And the only possible sentences are life imprisonment without the possibility of parole are the death penalty. So if you thought she was with another man now, my God, she is guaranteed to be with another man because you going to prison to do life. And this young lady has to move on with hers brothers. Don't do something permanently stupid because you are temporarily upset. Please give John Fuller the biggest he her.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That is super crazy.

[DJ Envy]

Horrible story.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So she was nine months pregnant with his baby. Damn, that's wild.

[DJ Envy]

Horrible story.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And he probably was been toxic. You know what I mean? Probably been toxic. That's why she didn't want to be around him. Because I was to trying. Trying to figure out like, why would she say no don't come to spend time right before the holiday. But he's probably already been showing signs of doing stuff like this.

[DJ Envy]

And she was mad at him because she thought, you know, he was lying about a job and he was supposed to move and blah, blah, blah. The moral of the story is it's a whole bunch of mess.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

And Cameron should not be deceased because of it. He just got caught up in somebody else's myth.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Yes, that's right. All right, we'll take it for that. Donkey of the day.

[Mimi Brown]

Sorry.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Then imagine how she feel about that. That she probably blames herself and she about to have a baby. The father not about to be there, obviously. Like, that's a lot. That's a lot.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Damn.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

All right, well, up next. Just fix my mess. If you got some mess like that, call Jess now. Before you do something, don't call the police. 5851051. Just fix my message. The Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[DJ Envy]

About me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Relationship problems.

[DJ Envy]

Ask about me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You need to beat your co workers at ass.

[DJ Envy]

Ask about me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Your coworker need to beat your ass. Call it up, Dr. Jess. And I'm here to fix your mess. It's getting very much messy. Let me fix this.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy Jess. Hilarious Charlemagne, the guy we are the Breakfast Club. It's time for Jess Fix My Mess. What's your name, bro?

[Lovey]

My name is Damond.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

What's your question for Jess, man?

[Lovey]

How do you deal with a woman who has personal hygiene issues?

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Damn.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So how do you deal with a woman who has personal hygiene issues? When did you. How long you been dealing with this woman? First of all, before you. Before you found out about the personal hygiene issues.

[Lovey]

We've been rocking on and off. You said six years, six months.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, six months. Okay. About six months. You've been dealing with her. And when was it that you realized that she had these bad hygiene issues?

[Lovey]

Oh, I realized, like, when we stay together for a couple of days. I said, I'll take a bath once.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, you was over there for more than one day, and she only took a bit. And y'.

[DJ Envy]

All.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And y' all were. I guess we're having sex. So it's like, yo, when you only freshened up one time, you only took a shower one time.

[Lovey]

Yeah, that I went. Almost took me to the upper room.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, my God. So you. You smelled it? It's not even that you only seen her take a bath once. You actually have witnessed it. Smelling her, everything.

[Lovey]

I don't know if it's a medical issue or I don't know, but she's just too pretty and too fine to.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Be smelling like that. Jesus Christ. Okay. Has it ever been out in public?

[Lovey]

No, no, it has never been in public, but I did get, like, a little whiff of, like, musk one time when we was out. And I just checked myself, so I knew it wasn't me. Yeah, but I don't know. Okay, but how do I handle this situation?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Do you like her? Is this somebody that you would like to be with? Because this is fixable. Do you like her?

[Lovey]

Yes, I really, really do like her.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, well, I think you should actually sit her down and have a, a conversation with her. Now listen, I'm ask you this last question before I go on. When you were at her house, how does her house look like, is it dirty? Is it junky? Like, is it. You know what I'm saying? Like, does she keep her house clean?

[Lovey]

Her house is finish. Everything clean except for her body.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Everything is clean except her body. Okay, well, it may be a medical issue. I was, I was asking because I was like, it may be her environment. It may, but it's her. Okay, so you have to sit her down and just be honest with her. You said you've been dealing with her on and off for six months or six years. I'm sorry, what you say six months? Okay, six months. Because your phone keep going and. Okay, so six months. So you like this girl. Y' all still are in y', all, you know, preliminary stages. Y', all. Y' all are still like early on with it. So I do feel like before y' all actually go any further other it's, it's a conversation old. Like you owe that to her. You know, you really like her and obviously she likes you. You sit her down and you tell her like over dinner or. But for no, no, because what if she stink at dinner? Now you don't want to tell her out in public.

[Lovey]

Restaurant and she starts thinking that dinner I'm have to just act like I got the restroom.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, I don't want to do that. Just, just tell her, just be like.

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[Mimi Brown]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Mimi Brown]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

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[Mimi Brown]

Kids or crowded in holiday traffic, tune out the noise and tune in to Ellis Ever After.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

On Ellis Ever after, we get real.

[Lauren LaRosa]

With our crew about family.

[DJ Envy]

If you feeling like you feeling that's probably because you a good parent. Friendship, be careful what you put in your body.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Move your body and love it the way you love them cars, that house.

[DJ Envy]

Them clothes, them shoes, love yourself, them brunches.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Love and marriage.

[Mimi Brown]

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[Mimi Brown]

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[Lauren LaRosa]

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[DJ Envy]

So listen to Ellis Ever after on.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.

Hey, babe, I. I have been pondering on how I can bring this to you and be the most respectful while doing it because I like you and I, I noticed that your hygiene is not up to par. Right. And. And if you don't want to say it like that, ask GPT how to say it nicer. But I'm, I. You got to be honest with her because that's.

[Lovey]

Yeah. Honestly can lead to, you know, segregation. She might just don't feel the same way. She might feel like I'm attacking her or attacking her.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But you might be surprised because this can't be the first time that she heard this. If you're, if you. The way you are describing this, somebody else had to smell this. Not not only you.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Damn.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, so she's been told this before. Or maybe she haven't. Maybe the, the previous men have just like left her alone or even friends. I know she got friends or something. A cat or something that don't want to be around her all the time.

[Lovey]

You have girls that look like that. So single after all these years now it's mind blowing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I, you gotta be honest with her. You like her, you're running the risk of segregation. But at the same time, I mean, separation. But at the same time, she may appreciate the truth. She may appreciate. All right, look, I gotta get myself together. I, you know, it's something and she may even come clean like, yo, I do have a medical issue. I just don't know who can help me with it then now you gotta find. You gotta help her find a dermatologist or whoever deals with the BO because wherever it's coming from, it could be.

[Mimi Brown]

Huh.

[Lovey]

I might need to find her a new obgyn.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You might Always, always down there. I thought it was just like her body. Armpits.

[Mimi Brown]

You.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Cuz you said must everywhere. Oh my God. Jesus. And you really.

[Lovey]

The back. The back shot went. Almost took me to the other room.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, it. It may be medical then. It may be medical, but it may not. But I think you need to be honest. Whatever it is, it. Cuz if she's too beautiful and you know, she got a lot going for herself and you really like like her and that's the only thing holding you back, that's fixable. She got to be able to fix it. It. You know, she. Her. Her pride can't get in the way of her smell. Like she has to fix this. Not. Not just for you, for her too. So be honest.

[Lovey]

Be honest with. I'm gonna just go ahead and keep, you know, watermelon and pineapples and stuff and making sure she's eating clean, you know, just to get whatever toxic she got in her body flushed out.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

What does it smell like? I'm just curious.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What does it smell like? He said the upper room.

[Lovey]

Chinese food sitting around for like a couple days. That's what it smelled like.

[DJ Envy]

Oh my gosh.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, man. I'm trying to figure out why the hell he like her. Okay, yeah, that's fine.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, well, you gotta talk to her because you. You landed on thick for me, so you need to go and talk to her today. Matter of fact, go over there now. Go. Run.

[Lovey]

All right, I'm gonna take your advice then.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, Check in with me. I'm here next Thursday.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You gotta.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

You.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You gotta tell me what. What came of the conversation.

[Lovey]

I definitely will. I'll check back in with you. I appreciate it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No problem.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Damn it, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I know. That sucks.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

What about douching? Do people still douche?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Not really, because that's not really healthy for us as. As we thought it was. But all them chemicals putting that up in there, that's not really good.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

And fabuloso don't work, right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's for floors envy. That is a janitorial cleanser.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Sorry, we got Che on the line. Chay, come on.

[Lovey]

Hi, good morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Good morning, babe.

[Lauren LaRosa]

How are you?

[Lovey]

I'm doing well. How are you, Jess?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm good, honey. What's up?

[Lovey]

Me and my baby, father, whatever, we've been together like off and on for like seven years. We have three children. And so right now we're like, off. And he is basically, like, trying to put all the responsibility on me as far as the finances go, as far as, like, pick up drop offs when it comes to school. Everything, Everything. But yet he want to take me to court and basically put on paper that he's like the primary parent. And, you know, I'm just like, I don't. I hate the court system.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I hate.

[Lovey]

I grew up in the system in court, like, my parents fighting back and forth and stuff like that. So basically I'm like, do I really want to go back to court and fight this man over my children and, like, go tell. Tell it all? Because it's like, yo, like, at the end of the day, I got receipts I. I spend on my children. I do whatever I have to do for my kids. I just asked this man to get the kids some T shirts and stuff for the winter. He thought about Christmas coming up. Like, which of this today, sir, is it at the.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I feel you. Is it at the point where it's irreconcilable? Like, y' all can't. Y' all can't come to an agreement outside of court? Or is he like. Cause I wanna know where the court angle is coming from. Cause you said y' all are off.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And y' all are.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It sounds like y' all are toxic, right? Y' all love each other, but y' all are on, on and off. So that there's a bit of toxicity there. When y' all are off, are things usually, like, hostile?

[Lovey]

Yeah. So, like, he's the type of person that like, okay, we all. Then he. He stopped doing for his children.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Even.

[Lovey]

Even, like, he'll do for them less. Like, he'll, you know, kind of like, ice this out a little bit. Like, I mean, don't get me wrong, he's a good father.

[Mimi Brown]

So the.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, so the court thing is literally just him being upset.

[Lovey]

On paper, yes. On paper he wants to be a parent, but like I said, financially and in real life, he don't. You know, he can't. He can't keep up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right. You know, okay, well, listen, let's take away the kids for a second. One second. You and him, right, are. What is the problem? Why do y' all keep being off when y' all are on? Obviously things are good. Why do y' all keep getting off? What is the problem?

[Lovey]

The problem for me personally is, is that he doesn't know how to communicate well. And, like, it's like talking To a child. To me, like, if he has a problem with something, if it's anything, like he has an issue with anything at all. It's like he'll get emotional and, you know, don't know how to communicate like an adult. And for me, it's like, all I have to do is just talk normally. And, you know, it's like, hey, this is the problem. How can we fix it? And for, like, he don't. He don't. He's never wrong. He never, you know, never did nothing wrong. You ask him. He never did nothing wrong. But. But be too good. And it's just like. But see, I can't continue to put up with that. You know, it's like, it. It's manipulated. It's manipulating. Like, how you gonna. The only thing you ever did. Yeah. You only been good to me the whole time. That's why we office. I'm the only problem. Like, no.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So that's a deeper issue. That's deeper than this relationship that. That stems from maybe his childhood. That stems from maybe a relationship before you that he never healed from.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

You.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You get what I'm saying? Because the manipulation. People just don't become manipulators overnight.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

That.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This type of behavior that you're describing that's built up like that, that's somebody being conditioned to be that way. So that takes time. And he's been living his life that way for a long time. So he needs therapy. He actually needs to fix himself as an individual, you know, get to the root of why he can't communicate and why he. He gets so hostile and just goes. Because I feel like the court play is very malicious. I. I feel like he's doing it because he's upset. Now, when he calms down, he may regret doing that, but that's something that he already popped the lid on, you know, because he's trying to hit below the belt. Because y' all are off. So it's about who can win this argument and who's going to be like. Like it. You get what I'm saying? It's like, no, you shouldn't go this way with somebody that you have children with that you are actually in a relationship with most of the time you can't do.

[DJ Envy]

Right.

[Lovey]

Right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. So it. It doesn't sound like it's. It's. It doesn't sound like it's over. It just sounds like y' all got a lot of work to do. And what he shouldn't do is throw the kids in the middle of something that they have nothing to do with. He got to work on himself and then he got to work on y' all relationship. Y' all got to work on that. And. But the kids still come first, so it's a lot of work y' all got to do. And I got a book that. That is available for pre order Till Death do We Parent. Right. And it's a co parenting memoir. It reflects on my journey raising my son with his dad. Me and Rome went through a lot of this in the earlier stages of raising Ashton. We were very young and it wasn't until we sat down and we had a talk, right? Where it's like, yo, I don't want you, you don't want me. Or maybe you do want me, but this will never be like it is. We gotta say it'll never be be a good relationship. We have a son, though. Y' all have three children. Y' all gotta get it right for right now. You feel me? So. Or. Or as soon as you can. Because kids can't wait for y' all to get y' all. Kids can't wait for y' all to get y' all ish together, you feel me? Like, because they still growing and evolving every day and they're looking to y'. All, y' all are their example. Y' all had them. They didn't ask to be here. So y' all gotta figure out how to govern y' all selves individually so y' all can be the best parents for these kids. Kids, you know, y' all got to work on your relationship, like, whether y'.

[DJ Envy]

All.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Y' all got to decide right now whether we are we going to be together or we not. Our kids can't wait for us to decide and can't wait for us to keep going back and forth and can't wait for us to. To figure out how we going to conquer the toxicity that we got with each other. We parents first.

[Lovey]

But absolutely.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He needs help, though. He needs help for sure. I know what you're describing.

[Lovey]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Lovey]

You know, and I've been. I see it now more because I've been working on my mental health my own. And like, for him, he. He refuses. So it's like I can see it clearer now. And yeah, it's tough to get somebody to see it for themselves because it's like, it's one of them things where it's like, you gotta want it. I can't want it for you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Absolutely. Yep. I struggle with that with my son's dad for a while, you know, because I love Rome so much. That's my family. I'm not talking about intimate. Like, I'm. That's my guy. So it's like, I loved him, so. I love him so much. I was trying to, like, help him, do everything for him, but he needed other help professionally, help which he got, you know, therapy and everything like that, because he has trauma that stemmed from him being 10 years old, you know? And then you grow up, and then it affects your relationships. It reflects how you.

Affects how you look at women, how you even parent, you know? So, yeah, yeah, you're gonna be.

[Lovey]

How did. How did you get.

[Lauren LaRosa]

How did.

[Lovey]

How did you get Rome or how did Rome come to this? Get to that point to where he was willing to get the help.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He. He had to want it. He had to want it. He. He would say things like. Because I would tell him, yo, you got to get therapy. He'd be like, yeah, yeah, I will. Just to shut me up. But it wasn't until he realized that he couldn't. He couldn't heal himself. You don't have the tools, right? And then he actually met Charlemagne, and Charlemagne actually gave him a therapist. I don't. I gotta check in to see if Rome is. Is. Cuz.

[Jordan Klepper]

Wr.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Lovely gave him a female therapist. And Rome probably flirted with the. The. They flirted with the first lady. I gotta check. I gotta check to see. I gotta check. But back to your situation. Yes, I. I think. I think you should come totally disarmed. Go to your baby daddy, and you tell him, yo, we need to. We need to figure this out. We. We need to. How can I help you get better? Like, how can I help you? You need to talk to somebody. I'm not. I'm totally disarmed. I'm. Forget the court stuff. Forget everything. Forget us, our relationship right now. You need help for yourself, right? I don't know how he'll receive that. You know him better than me. But I. I. That's why I said disarm yourself. Don't go hostile because he fire. He gonna fight fire with fire. You know what I mean? You gotta, like, almost. Almost manipulate him a little bit. You get what I'm saying?

[Lovey]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I feel you. Yeah, I feel you. I'm gonna try it.

[Mimi Brown]

I'm.

[Lovey]

Try it, girl.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Good luck, mama.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Good luck, babe.

[Lovey]

Thank you so much. I appreciate all of y'. All Have a good day. No problem.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Just fix my mess. 800-585-1051. When we come back, we got the latest with Lauren. Don't move it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Lauren becoming a straight fat.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

She gets to be somebody that knows.

[DJ Envy]

Somebody, gets the details.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm the home girl that knows a little bit about everything.

[DJ Envy]

She be having the latest on.

[Lovey]

The.

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[DJ Envy]

Sometimes you have facts, sometimes you have details. Sometimes she have a little bit of everything.

[Jordan Klepper]

Well, it's the latest on the Breakfast Club. Talk to me.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Okay, y'.

[DJ Envy]

All.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So we've been on this Candy Burris and Todd Tucker divorce train. And y' all remember that one of her team members had told me that, like, it's not as scandalous as people are making it. I think what they meant now because there have been things that have come out just this week that, you know, Candy believes that Todd was talking to other women behind her back before filing for divorce. I think what they meant is they're trying to move forward in a way that's not as scandalous as people would think, because it's definitely become a scandalous to the point where Candy is actually now, like, requesting and almost begging a judge to seal their divorce docs because everything is kind of spilling over into the media and the news and they have kids and, you know, all of that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So, yeah, so that's been an update as well. But also, you know, there was a conversation about their prenup. Todd had claimed that the final agreement for signature was given to him, like, right before the wedding ceremony without any notice or consultation to his team. Candy is fighting back against this, and she's using clips from Real Housewives. They did a wedding special to fight back against it. Now we went and found a clip of our own when Todd is sitting right before he signs the agreement. Let's take a listen to.

[Coca-Cola Announcer]

I decided to sign a prenup against my lawyer's advice. In the end, I know all this.

[DJ Envy]

Legal stuff is not going to keep.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Me from being with Candy.

[Lauren LaRosa]

All right, I'm rolling.

[Mimi Brown]

This is a video recording of the execution of the prenuptial agreement between Candy Lanise Burris and Todd Tucker. You acknowledge that you have had a sufficient amount of time and opportunity to fully consider the prenuptial agreement and to request changes to the prenuptial agreement?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Mimi Brown]

You understand that you're giving up your rights to periodic alimony, lump sum alimony, alimony in kind, attorney's fees, and expenses of litigation, property settlement, equitable distribution, and community property?

[DJ Envy]

Yes.

[Mimi Brown]

You understand that wife may dispose of any of her separate property as defined in the prenuptial agreement without your participation or signature?

[Jordan Klepper]

Yes.

[Mimi Brown]

You believe that the provisions of the prenuptial agreement are fair, just, reasonable and equitable?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Mimi Brown]

You are signing the prenuptial agreement freely and voluntarily without coercion or other undue influence by wife or any third party?

[DJ Envy]

Yes.

[Mimi Brown]

There have been no threats of bodily or other harm or other actions against you amounting to coercion compelling you to act against your free will to sign the prenuptial agreement?

[Lauren LaRosa]

No.

[Mimi Brown]

Todd, do you have any questions?

[DJ Envy]

No.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[Mimi Brown]

You just ready to get this over with?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[DJ Envy]

Is it that on TV they did.

[Lauren LaRosa]

A whole wedding special and one of the clips that. So the clip that candy that they're referencing, that candy pulled. We tried to go back and grab it, but it's from like 2014. So is it. The clip that we found didn't really sound the best to play over radio, but I did see some blogs pick up this clip. She actually uses a clip where they're sitting in there talking and she calls her team in there and she's like talking about the fact that they've spoken to attorneys, not spoken to attorneys. Like they have that whole conversation. So she's pushing back. So it's. It's getting a bit messy. Like, not even a bit. It's really messy. Which divorce normally is or not normally, but divorce can be.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

But I thought when you sign a prenup, it's whatever in that prenup and it's kind of open, shut.

[Lauren LaRosa]

But he's. But that's what I'm saying. Todd is saying that he signed. Find it like, almost like. Almost like in a rush and it should be revisited and all these things. But she's pulling clips to show that that's not the case.

[DJ Envy]

I'm sorry that they got to go through that. But what does talking to women behind my back me.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Are you trying to see is Todd has a family or. He was just kidding.

[Lauren LaRosa]

The family thing came from her side. So.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah. No. What? Hey, hold on. I was joking when I said. I was just saying how black people.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Will be like, oh, cuz I was trying to find.

[DJ Envy]

No, I'll be like, black people be like, yo, we just talking. Because that was part of the game. Got a whole family together. You know what I'm saying?

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Because that was part of the rumor that Todd had a woman pregnant.

[Jordan Klepper]

But that wasn't true.

[DJ Envy]

I hear that now. See, I ain't listening when she be speaking. Not when it comes to that type of stuff.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Listen, technically, according to what is being reported, it's just the fact that she had no idea like cheating? Like, what do you mean?

[DJ Envy]

But I'm saying talk. I don't know. When you. When I hear talking. What is talking to women behind you, man?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Explaining right now.

That just made me mad.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Just a question. All right, let me woman ask something real quick. Quick. It's been rumors that they. They have like a open situation or they had like open situation.

[DJ Envy]

All this stuff be messy, man. Salute to Candy and Todd, by the way. And I ain't talking about Candy in general. I'm just saying you don't have to have a girlfriend to have it either.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right?

[DJ Envy]

Exactly. We have a pillow princess in here right now. She's back, but I don't want to talk about it.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Jesus Christ.

[DJ Envy]

She'S an almost married mother now. Okay, but back in the day. Back in the day, she was a little pillow princess, you know what I'm saying? She had to eat up.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Speaking of, she also talking about you.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Back in the day.

[Lauren LaRosa]

If y' all want details on Portia and her new relationship, please go listen to the latest with Lauren, the rose of the podcast. We get into some things. Okay. Cuz Portia has a new girlfriend.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Or however she identifies a girl.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, you said it.

[Lauren LaRosa]

She said.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, she got a girlfriend.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She know what? She has a girlfriend.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Girlfriend be an eater. Why would she.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, that girl. That girl's right handsome.

[DJ Envy]

You know what I mean? Your girlfriend can. Your girlfriend is. Yes, you're eater.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[DJ Envy]

But you can have an eater and she not be your girlfriend.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Oh, okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Got you.

[DJ Envy]

Taylor, come here for a second. Taylor back.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Anyway, Taylor.

Is married.

[Lauren LaRosa]

She got a family wrap up. Don't come in here, girl.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, my God.

[Lauren LaRosa]

2026 mess up her blessings.

[DJ Envy]

First of all, I'm just shouting, Taylor 2026. Okay, Taylor is back. I want there. Go Taylor.

[Jordan Klepper]

Taylor gang.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey.

[DJ Envy]

Gang is back in the building.

[Jordan Klepper]

Taylor, baby.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Like one years old now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I know, basically.

[DJ Envy]

All right, Taylor's back.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

That's all I want everybody to know. Taylor back. That's all. Nothing to do with nothing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[DJ Envy]

You know what I'm saying?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What an interesting time to bring her back in here. That's a clown.

[DJ Envy]

Taylor.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You used to have an eater.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Oh, I didn't get to.

[DJ Envy]

Isn't that a difference between a girlfriend and an eater?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know.

[DJ Envy]

Okay?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Shane never ever been that way.

[DJ Envy]

I learned to turn pillow princess from her.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Oh, my God. Tell her. First of all, pillow princess also is with men.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, I don't do nothing about that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Great.

[Jordan Klepper]

For real.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Shut him right up.

[DJ Envy]

He don't want to Play no more.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I just wanted y' all to know. Scott Mills left. Bet that that was, like, a thing, too.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Scott.

[DJ Envy]

Scott out there geeked up, looking for a eater right now.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Oh, my God.

[DJ Envy]

I'm leaving bet. But I'm out here looking for either.

[Jordan Klepper]

Scott didn't say that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Scott didn't say that.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

All right, today is Jay Z's birthday. We're gonna play your favorite ho. Let us know what you want to hear. Is the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Now, guys, I'm doing something that I've never done before. What?

[DJ Envy]

Anal. That's a lie.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Stop. Like, why would that be the first?

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

I'm getting you guys Christmas gifts.

[Jordan Klepper]

Gifts this year.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, my God, that's so fun.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

I am.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[DJ Envy]

Nothing from you.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

I'm getting you guys Christmas gifts.

[DJ Envy]

Don't do it.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

I thought about it. I ordered yours already, Jess.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

I ordered Lawrence and I ordered yours. I am so excited. I think they come next week. I'm just trying to figure out what I'm gonna give them to y'.

[Lovey]

All.

[DJ Envy]

I stopped giving gifts in this room because last time I gave you a gift, you didn't appreciate it.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Yeah, it was a mold of your ass.

[DJ Envy]

What?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You gave somebody a mold of your butt?

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What?

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Yeah, of course.

[DJ Envy]

I.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like a statue or like a cake.

[DJ Envy]

Like, it was jiggly. It was like a. Oh, no, a jello. It was a sex toy.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

It had a hole in and everything.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, yo, y'.

[DJ Envy]

All.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

But no, no, no. But I got you guys.

[DJ Envy]

I got all you guys. Y' all different.

That means that we have exceeded levels past gay. When somebody just says you different.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. That is wild.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

No, but I. I ordered all you guys gifts. They coming this week, and I'm super.

[DJ Envy]

Duper excited to give it to you.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Trying to figure out what. I'm going to give it to you guys. I got to be like, maybe next week.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm excited. Yeah. I don't trust you, though.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

No, they all good.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You're very excited, right?

[DJ Envy]

I'm done with that. Well, since we gift giving again, I'll give you. I got.

[Lovey]

I give.

[DJ Envy]

I'll whip up something for you.

I'll whip up something for you.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

With the mic. I'll tell you what I got Lauren, but I'll tell you later.

[Jordan Klepper]

Anyway.

[Mimi Brown]

Okay.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Salute to Jordan Klepper for joining us comedian. He has a. A new special on comedy since Central. It's called Jordan Klepper Fingers the Pulse.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, man. Jordan. Specials are really, really good, because he actually goes out there and interacts with people. So you're getting, like, from the field on the ground. That's right. You know, experiences and. And. And ideas and stuff. So, yeah, check Jordan Cleoper, his new special fingers. The post.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

A man on the street.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah. Jordan is really known for his field pieces. You know what I'm saying? So these are just, like, extended field pieces.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Cool. That's.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

That's right.

[DJ Envy]

All right.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

And this weekend, you going to be where?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm going to be in Hartford, Connecticut, at the Funny Bone Comedy Club, guys. So get your tickets if you haven't yet. Saturday is selling out fast, so get your tickets for tomorrow, Jess. Hilarious. Official dot com. We got four shows. That's two tomorrow and two on Saturday. Me and Desi will be there. I did not know that Connecticut was known for their pizza.

[DJ Envy]

I didn't.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I had no idea. That's what. I swear, yo.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

I swear what I did started recently. That's what I'm like.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because I thought Chicago was known.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

New York and Chicago are known for the pizza.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

I even heard Philly is learned for the cheese.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Cheese things. Baltimore known for cribs. I never heard that Connecticut was known for pizza.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

But they're not.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's okay. All right, well, I'm gonna tell them that Envy said y' all not.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

Nah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

When I get there. So get your tickets if you haven't yet, y'.

[Lovey]

All.

[Jesse 'Jess Hilarious']

All right, well, Charlamagne, you got a positive note.

[DJ Envy]

I do. I want to repeat a quote that I said during donkey of the day because I think it's very important, man. And, you know, Bruce Lee was a very wise individual. He just wasn't a great martial artist. Bruce Lee said, emotion can be the enemy. If you give in to your emotion, you lose yourself. You must be at one with your emotion, because the body always follows the mind. Have a great day.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How you gonna say Bruce Lee wasn't a good martial artist?

[DJ Envy]

I said, Bruce. He was not only just a good martial artist.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, Breakfast Club finish or y' all done?

[Lauren LaRosa]

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