FULL SHOW: Grammys Recap: Kendrick Makes History, Trevor Noah Jabs Nicki & Trump + Omar Epps, Yelena Popovic & Reginald Akkeem Berry Sr. Interview

Summary

The Breakfast Club: Grammys Recap & "Moses the Black" — February 2, 2026

Episode Overview

This episode of The Breakfast Club, hosted by DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, and Charlamagne Tha God on The Black Effect Podcast Network and iHeartPodcasts, dives into a jam-packed Monday morning covering the 2026 Grammy Awards, notable pop culture moments, and an in-depth interview with Omar Epps, director Yelena Popovic, and Reginald Akkeem Berry Sr. about their new film "Moses the Black." The crew also discusses pressing news topics (including government shutdown and the Epstein files), listener call-ins, and viral sports and entertainment highlights.

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Grammys 2026 Recap

Major Awards & Performances

• Kendrick Lamar breaks record: Now the most awarded rapper in Grammy history, surpassing Jay Z.
  • "Kendrick Lamar became the most awarded rapper in Grammy history with 27 total wins, surpassing Jay Z's record of 25. That's crazy." (Angela Yee, 24:18)
• Clipse wins with Kendrick: Clipse and Kendrick Lamar win Best Rap Performance for "Whips and Chains."
• Lauryn Hill’s curated tribute: Lauryn personally assembled the D’Angelo and Roberta Flack tribute, inviting Leon Thomas, Lucky Daye, Raphael Saadiq, Anthony Hamilton, and others to participate.
  • "Lauryn Hill actually curated the tribute herself." (Angela Yee, 71:28)
• Unexpected moments:
  • Cher mistakenly called Kendrick and SZA's song "Luther Vandross" when announcing the award (29:56).
    • "She said Luther Gandros." (Charlamagne, 30:17)
  • Emotional acceptance speeches praised God, community, and perseverance, with SZA urging listeners not to fall into despair (31:22).

Memorable Jabs & Social Media Fallout

• Trevor Noah hosts, takes shots:
  • Jokes about Nicki Minaj not being present:
    • "Nicki Minaj is not here. She is still at the White House with Donald Trump discussing very important issues." (Charlamagne, 22:07)
  • Pokes at the Kendrick/Drake beef:
    • "I actually thought about writing a few jokes roasting you. But then I remembered what you can do to light skinned dudes from other countries." (Charlamagne quoting Trevor Noah, 23:43)
• Nicki Minaj responds online: Quickly fires back at Trevor with allegations and social media drama.

Community Reactions

• Call-in lines light up with Grammy reactions:
  • Listeners express joy over wins by Kehlani, Clipse, Kendrick; disappointment for Jay Z; love for Lady Gaga and K-pop group performances (12:57–15:01).
  • Fandom for artists and debates about fairness in categories.

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Politics & Front Page News

Government Shutdown Looms

• Partial federal government shutdown in effect, with funding standoffs over immigration enforcement and DHS.
  • "Workers could miss paychecks if this shutdown carries on." (Mimi Brown, 08:48)
• Both parties blame each other; debate over masks for ICE agents, use of warrants, and accountability.
  • Hakeem Jeffries (Minority House Leader): "Masks should come off. Judicial warrants should absolutely be required...before DHS agents or ICE agents are breaking into homes..." (09:30)

Immigration & Protest Updates

• Five-year-old Liam Ramos and father released after viral ICE detention (11:10).
• Don Lemon and Georgia Fort released after their arrest covering Minnesota protests; Killer Mike comments on the First Amendment:
  • "I was proud, as I was of Uncle Luke when he got arrested in the 90s...fighting for our First Amendment rights." (38:34)
• Massive new Epstein files drop, but many records remain sealed or redacted. Rep. Ro Khanna and the Breakfast Club express skepticism a full accounting will ever occur (35:25).

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Pop Culture & Listener Interactions

Viral Moments & Celebrity Call-Ins

• Jay Z and Nicki Minaj discourse: Listeners defend Jay Z (“all he's ever given us is black excellence") while criticizing ongoing smear campaigns and Nicki's online activity (16:32–18:00).

• Black Effect Podcast Festival discussion: Callers vie to host and reminisce about last year’s event in Atlanta (18:23).

• School bus & truck drivers, Aquarius season, and more: The phone lines serve as a platform for shout-outs, encouragement, and local issues (15:02–17:30).

Sports Highlights

• Boxing: Shakur Stevenson beats Teofimo Lopez; Keyshawn Davis and Bruce Carrington praised as rising stars (07:29, 33:10).
  • "Keyshawn Davis is a killer. Dropping a clues bomb for Keyshawn Davis." (Charlamagne, 07:29)
• Interview: Boxer "Big Baby" Miller (see below for details).

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Featured Interview: "Moses the Black" Filmmakers

Introduction to the Film

Guests: Omar Epps (star), Yelena Popovic (director/writer), Reginald Akkeem Berry Sr. (consultant/producer, former Four Corner Hustlers chief)

• Plot & Inspiration: Modern crime drama based on the real-life Saint Moses, a 4th-century former gang leader turned saint, paralleling Berry’s own journey from gang chief to community activist.
  • "He was like the real Robin Hood...taking care of his community, giving to the poor...he realized he had to become the change he was seeking." (Omar Epps, 42:55)
• Chicago’s authenticity: Yelena was inspired by a vision in Greece to set the film in Chicago; she sought Akkeem’s blessing and guidance for genuine representation of street life and redemption (43:39–46:15).

Real Life Parallels

• Akkeem details his own transformation from the "Four Corner Hustlers" chief through incarceration and into community work ("Saving Our Sons"):
  • "I had an epiphany, you know, how I need to change my life...perhaps I can introduce change and bring it back to where the founders had it..." (Akkeem, 46:45)
• The struggle to portray gang culture’s complexity and the barriers to social reform, including pushback from authorities:
  • "The powers that be are trying to suppress this movie as we speak." (Akkeem, 54:50)
  • Theaters in Black communities dropped the film days before release, citing lack of "pre-sales" but likely for political and economic reasons (59:35).

Community Impact & Themes

• Redemption & faith: The film emphasizes the power already within people, especially in the Black community, and the role of faith and community support.
  • "Whether you're religious or not...when we use words like faith and redemption...it's not just from a faith-based angle. It's just from a human experience angle." (Omar Epps, 49:01)
• Filmmaking as activism: The movie is an act of advocacy, with community screenings inciting real emotion and representing local stories authentically (60:41).

Notable Quote

• "When you feel joyful and alive...when we are weak, we are strong." (Yelena Popovic, 69:14)

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Viral Sports Interview: Boxer "Big Baby" Miller

Gerald ‘Big Baby’ Miller appears to discuss going viral after his hairpiece flew off mid-bout at Madison Square Garden.

• On the incident:
  • "When the headpiece came off, did it hurt more than any punch you took?" (Charlamagne)
  • "Funny, because I didn’t realize it came off, but I felt a draft." (Big Baby, 92:28)
• Transparency about his PED test violation, divorce, and his ongoing fight for redemption.
• Brings signature humor, rolling with viral attention rather than shrinking from the memes.

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• "I actually thought about writing a few jokes roasting you. But then I remembered what you can do to light skinned dudes from other countries." (Trevor Noah via Charlamagne, 23:43)
• “Don't be one of those people who let their dreams die early. Let Shopify help you and thank yourself later for not giving up.” (Charlamagne endorsement, 25:11)
• "We need to trust each other and trust ourselves...we're not governed by the government, we're governed by God." (SZA acceptance speech, 31:31)
• “I didn't change my mind. I had changed my mind, but the judge didn't change my time.” (Akkeem Berry, 58:47)
• "I always hear y'all shout out the truck drivers...I'm a school bus driver. And we carry the most fresh cargo in the world." (Listener, 15:21)

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Black History Segment

• B.Dot’s "I Didn't Know, Maybe You Didn't Either": Exposes the racist origins of standardized school testing and the story of Horace Mann Bond’s efforts to debunk pseudoscience in intelligence scores (109:45).
• Memorable line: "The bananas weren't the problem. The tests were the problem. They always were." (111:12)

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Positive Close

• Charlamagne’s Reflection:
  • "Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are. — John Wooden." (115:23)

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Summary Table of Key Segments

| Segment | Start | Key Topics | |-----------------------------------------|---------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | Grammy Awards Reactions | 12:57 | Callers, performance highlights, major winners (Kendrick, Clipse, SZA), Lady Gaga, Lauryn Hill tribute | | Politics & Front Page News | 07:57 | Government shutdown, ICE/DHS debate, Epstein files, Don Lemon arrest | | Trevor Noah Grammy Jokes | 21:58 | Nicki Minaj and Trump jabs, Kendrick-Drake roast | | "Moses the Black" Filmmaker Interview | 42:20 | Omar Epps, Yelena Popovic, Akkeem Berry Sr.; Chicago authenticity; community impact; suppression of the film | | Gerald "Big Baby" Miller Interview | 85:28 | Viral hairpiece mishap, boxing journey, transparency on PEDs | | Call-In Segment | 12:45 | Listener appreciation, Aquarius season, praise for school bus drivers, Black Effect Podcast Festival discussion | | Black History Moment (B.Dot) | 109:45 | Racist history of standardized testing, Horace Mann Bond | | Closing Words/Positive Note | 115:23 | John Wooden quote about character vs. reputation |

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Overall Tone & Takeaways

• Energetic & Unfiltered: As always, The Breakfast Club crew mix raw energy, humor, and sharp cultural commentary.
• Community-Focused: Highlighting Black excellence, the importance of storytellers, and real-world redemption stories.
• Faith & Accountability: Both in pop culture (SZA’s speech, Kendrick’s humility) and in life (Akkeem’s transformation, Gerald Miller’s candor), the show underscores personal responsibility, faith, and second chances.
• Media Skepticism: Pushing back on sensational journalism and the weaponization of Black culture in viral news cycles.

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Want More?

Catch the full episode on The Black Effect Podcast Network and iHeartPodcasts. For more details on "Moses the Black," support your local theaters and demand screenings. And, as always, stay tuned to The Breakfast Club for unfiltered news, culture, and conversation.

Transcript

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[DJ Envy]

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[Charlamagne tha God]

Peacock this Sunday, iHeartRadio brings you live to Levi's Stadium in Santa Clara for The Super Bowl 60 tailgate concert. Presented by NetApp. It's the ultimate pre game party featuring an exclusive performance from Teddy Swim. Your front row experience will be on iHeartradio stations across the country and the free iHeartradio app this Sunday at 3:30 Eastern, 12:30 Pacific. Then after the concert, tune in to The Super Bowl 60 pregame show on NBC. Wake you up. Wake that ass up. Program your alarm to power 105.1 on iheartradio. Good morning USA. Yo, yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo. Jess, Hilarious.

[Angela Yee]

Wake that ass up.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Charlemagne the God pizza. The planet is Monday. How y' all feeling out there? I feel blessed. Black and highly favored. Happy to be here another day to serve our beautiful listeners. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Jess. Hilarious. Got traffic blocked. What are you talking about?

[Angela Yee]

Why?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Because you parked your. You jumped out your truck in the middle of the street. Just left your key.

[Angela Yee]

First of all, that's not. Don't act like I'm on the run. That's what I do. I asked the security to park my car for me.

[Charlamagne tha God]

But you kept my keys.

[Angela Yee]

No, I didn't kick my keys.

[Charlamagne tha God]

It's in a cup holder. So. So Jess jumped out her car. Yo, when I said she got traffic back there for two blocks, I'm not even joking. I just said that. From where this radio station is. I believe that. Two blocks back, Max truck, everybody blowing their horn. I'm like, what the hell happened? Cause I went into the car. I thought she passed me, too. I thought she was still in the car, man. She's still in the car. The car's just on. There's traffic at least three blocks down. You can't get around her. Your car's just there.

[Angela Yee]

That's so crazy that. Yo, he couldn't find the car key. It's literally in where it's supposed to be. It's just like a little slot.

[Charlamagne tha God]

If it was in the cup holder, wouldn't it just drive?

[Angela Yee]

Literally? Yeah. That's why I'm like. I don't understand why he couldn't pull off with it. I don't have my key. I promise. I. I don't got it. It's right there.

[Guest or Caller]

It's in there.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Well, I know that look.

[Angela Yee]

Crazy.

[Charlamagne tha God]

So you know what I'm saying? Yeah, he probably doesn't know. Yeah, he probably thinks he needs a key to start it. But you got traffic backed up at least three blocks. Yo. least three blocks. Why would you. Why would you jump out in the middle of the street anyway? Why would you pull to the side? Yo, it's.

[Guest or Caller]

No.

[Angela Yee]

What do you mean, pull to the side? It's still ice, like, from the ground to the roof. I just. He was right there. He got in the car, and he might have just got back out.

[Guest or Caller]

I didn't put.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Leave my car in the middle of the street and come in here just ruining people money. People trying to get to work. You Know what I'm saying? People trying to get to work. You know what I mean? You know, it's the game of inches in the morning. Every minute counts.

[Angela Yee]

Whatever.

[Guest or Caller]

Justice destroyed all.

[Angela Yee]

I'm sorry. It wasn't my fault.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You should never talk about the garbage truck ever again. No, that was worse than the garbage truck. That was worse than the garbage. At least you can see the garbage truck doing something. You just bounce.

[Angela Yee]

It's not my fault.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Was that car behind you when you jumped out?

[Angela Yee]

No, nobody was behind me.

[Charlamagne tha God]

And the security guard, a bunch of them back there.

[Angela Yee]

Now, the security guard met me right.

[Charlamagne tha God]

There, and there was people gathered around watching. I'm like, what the hell is happening?

[Angela Yee]

People gathering around my chocolate.

[Charlamagne tha God]

They was all looking, trying to figure out what was happening. Sporting goods store. Yes.

[Angela Yee]

It's two types, right? So you got House. Well, you got Dick Sporting Goods. Then you got Dick's House of Sports. Like, the difference is. So House of Sports got, like, all the many excursions in it, like rock climbing, batting cage, ice skating. And my husband took me to get fitted for some golf clubs. Right, Golf clubs. And I didn't know that was a whole thing, like, you had to get fitted, like. I didn't know, you know? But he's really into it. And I got my first starter club yesterday. He treated me to some golf clubs.

[Charlamagne tha God]

He.

[Angela Yee]

Yes, he golfs. And now I'm just starting to get into it, so I was very excited about it, y'. All.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah. Well, salute to all the dance dads out there. Dance has officially started. My daughters were out in New Brunswick, New Jersey. Salute to everybody I seen out there. They said, london killed it. I'm sorry, that was Brooklyn.

[Angela Yee]

Oh, Brooklyn.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Okay.

[Angela Yee]

I'm sorry. Yeah, Killed it.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Brooklyn.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

They both killed it this week and had a great time. This was their first performance for their new dances. So this is the first time I see it. I have this thing where I don't go to any of their rehearsals. I drop them off and leave because I don't want to see it until they're dressed. Yeah, they have their costume on. Everything is, like, legit. So I had a great time. So salute to all the dance dads out there. Charlemagne.

[Angela Yee]

That was my first time ever seeing her dance. Like, I know you talk about it all the time, but you don't never really post it. Yo, she, like.

[Charlamagne tha God]

She gets busy.

[Angela Yee]

Yes.

[Charlamagne tha God]

No, no, she. They take it serious. I love it. They practice six days a week, about four or five hours a day, and they want to do it. It's not like I'd be like, nah. What's cigarette? They're like, nah, nah. I like this. So whatever keeps them away from boys and going to the mall and go to dance all day.

[Guest or Caller]

So I love it.

[Charlamagne tha God]

What about your week, Ashala? I was on the couch having a great time. My favorite thing to do on this planet is nothing. Okay. I watched. I watched all the Wonder Man. I got to binge watch all the Wonder man on Disney. I watched the fights this weekend. This was a great weekend. Watched a little bit of the Grammys last night. Just a tad. Yeah, I fell asleep just a tad bit. So long. But I watched it, too. All right, well, let's get the show cracking. Omar Epps will be joining us this morning, aq. He came with our director. Is it Yelena Popovich? Yelena Popovich and Akeem Berry Senior. They got a new movie called Moses the Black. It actually came out this past weekend, so they'll be here to talk to us all about it. All right, we'll get into that in a little bit. So don't go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemag the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page. I'll tell you one thing, it ain't nothing like getting an email that says your FICO score went up. Okay? Yeah, right. I got them emails. Absolutely. All right, well, let's start off with boxing over the weekend. Shakur Stevenson beat Teofimo Lopez. Damn. Did y' all watch the fight? What did I. What a great fight card, man. You know what I'm saying? Watching Shushu Bruce.

[DJ Envy]

Bruce.

[Charlamagne tha God]

He got busy. Keyshawn Davis is a killer. Dropping a clues bomb for Keyshawn Davis. He's a killer. And yes, Shakur worked over Teofimo. That's right. Great call off.

[Angela Yee]

Who was that?

[DJ Envy]

Oh, all right.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah, Big Bab.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah. Big baby.

[Angela Yee]

Big baby.

[Guest or Caller]

Okay.

[Charlamagne tha God]

He ate that. He had no choice.

[Guest or Caller]

He ripped it off and threw it off.

[Charlamagne tha God]

What's up, Mimi?

[Mimi Brown]

Good morning, MB Just Charlemagne. How y' all doing this morning?

[Guest or Interviewee]

Hey, girl.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Highly favored. Peace, Mimi Brown.

[Mimi Brown]

Good morning. So we start this morning with a government shutdown already underway and no clear deal yet to end it. So House Speaker Mike Johnson says he expects the House to pass a funding package by Tuesday, even if Republicans have to do it without Democratic support. Let's listen to why he thinks that's possible.

[Charlamagne tha God]

We're going to demonstrate once again that this is the party that takes governing seriously. The Democrats play games with this And I think it's very unfortunate because what they're doing is they're jeopardizing services to the American people. Some of these conditions and requests they've made are obviously reasonable and should happen. But the mask, for example, the additional judicial requirement for a warrant would be a whole other layer of effectively bureaucracy. Remember, the immigration judges have already issued.

[Angela Yee]

Warrants and that's what the ICE officials are acting upon.

[Mimi Brown]

We're going to talk about those, those masks that a lot of Americans have had enough of. We're going to get back to that in a second. But right now, the shutdown is partial. Most federal agents, they are still operating, but workers could miss paychecks if this shutdown carries on. Now, at the center of this fight is immigrant immigration enforcement and funding for the Department of Homeland Security. The Senate, they passed a short term funding plan that would keep most of the government open while Congress it gives them two weeks to negotiate changes to DHS and to ice. But House Democrats say they won't back it unless there are stronger limits on immigration enforcement. And let's get into what the House Democrats think about those masks. Here is Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries.

[Guest or Caller]

What is clear is that the Department of Homeland Security needs to be dramatically reformed. We share that view, as does Leader Schumer and Senate Democrats in a variety of different ways. Body cameras should be mandatory. Masks should come off. Judicial warrants should absolutely be required, consistent with the Constitution. In our view, before DHS agents or ICE agents are breaking into the homes of the American people or ripping people out of their cars, we need to make sure that there are complete and independent investigations so that when ICE or DHS agents break the law, they are held accountable.

[Mimi Brown]

Well, Johnson says ICE wouldn't stop operating even if DHS funding fails because the agency, they already received billions of dollars earlier this year. But other DHS agencies would fill it. We talked about this a little bit last week. TSA at the airports, fema, which is responding to those winter storms right now. And President Trump, he's also backing Johnson's strategy and says he wants to shut down resolve quickly, although those negotiations remain so. So for now, the shutdown continues with federal workers, travelers and disaster response agencies caught in the middle. And we'll see what happens as lawmakers race to avoid a longer disruption.

[Charlamagne tha God]

So some people just can't catch a break. Lord have mercy.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah, for sure. And some good news this morning, that five year old boy whose attention sparked national outrage, he's back home in Minnesota. Liam Ramos, he was released this weekend. Along with his father after the two were held for days in an immigration facility in Texas. Now, their case, it drew widespread attention after images of Lamb wearing that blue hat and carrying that Spider man backpack, it went viral. A federal judge ordered their release and criticized the administration of hand how they handled the case and questioned the treatment of children. Now, the family's attorney said they came here responsibly, legally in 2023. They've been following all the immigration rules and they never should have been detained in the first place. This comes as Minnesota, where a federal judge has declined to block the Trump administration's large scale immigration enforcement operation known as Operation Metro Surge. Now, the judge did acknowledge that there is strong evidence that that surge that we're seeing in immigrant in Minneapolis with all of the federal agents on the ground, about 3,000 of them, that is having an impact on the community, including disrupted schools, strain, emergency systems and concerns about racial profiling. But she ruled that those concerns were not enough to legally shut down the operation. So Minnesota officials, they say that they will continue to fight this. Front Page News has an interview this week later this week with some of the officials in Minnesota. And so we'll ask them about this, what plans that they continue to take, what legal options they have on this. And we'll get back to you when we have some more answers on that.

[Angela Yee]

All right, thank you.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Thank you, Mimi.

[Mimi Brown]

All right. Coming up at 7, there's a massive new drop on those Epstein files. And we'll tell you what is in them and why they're still raising eyebrows.

[Charlamagne tha God]

All right, everybody else, get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, phone lines are wide open again. 800-585-1051. Let us know how your weekend was. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[Guest or Caller]

This is your time to get it off your chest. 800-585-1051.

[Charlamagne tha God]

We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Hello? Who's this? Hey, good morning, Bucky. Clubs, how you doing? This Anthony from Baltimore. What's up?

[Angela Yee]

Running shorty?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Get it off your chest. Hey, man, it's cool. It's cold as I don't know what outside, man. Yes, it is, but I was calling cause I watched the Grammys last night, man, and I ain't watched it in years. And I felt that they got all that stuff right, man. They was able to give Kehlani a Grammy.

[Guest or Interviewee]

Yes.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You know, my man, my man for mutt.

[Angela Yee]

Leon Thomas.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Leon Thomas. Leon Thomas. They got the clips of Grammy. The only thing I was mad about, they didn't get jail Grammy, man. Well, no, I didn't want. And I love Jade Album, but Jiz Album didn't deserve to win that category. I felt like I wanted.

[Guest or Caller]

I know.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I wanted to see. No, he wasn't. I wanted to see the Clips win that category. But you can't be mad at Kendrick, though. Yeah, I was confused. I thought he won five Grammys last year for that album. No, he went for Not Like Us. Oh, just a single. Yeah. Yeah, the single.

[Angela Yee]

Yep.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah, but it was. It was an excellent Grammys, man. I appreciate that last night. That was good. I was happy for the Clips. I was happy for Kendrick. Who won Albany. Yeah. I went to bed. Who won that?

[Guest or Interviewee]

Bunny.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Bad Bunny. Yeah, Bad Bunny. One album of the year.

[Angela Yee]

Yep.

[Charlamagne tha God]

But that's all I called to say, man. Y' all have a good day. I even like the performances, Even the artists I didn't know.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah, I like the performance, man. They killed it. Lady Gaga killed it.

[DJ Envy]

She.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Man, she killed it.

[Angela Yee]

She's so artsy. She's such a phenomenal. She did everything. She was dancing.

[DJ Envy]

She was.

[Angela Yee]

She sung opera. The song that she sung was Abracadabra, so that's like opera. She played all the instruments and she. She did all of that while wearing Martin Mama's. The. The birdcage.

[Charlamagne tha God]

The bird cage.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah, she performed the whole time with that on.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I was confused because I thought Lady Gaga opened the show with Bruno Mars and then that turned around and that was some Asian. No, that's Asian. I swear. I thought that was Lady Gaga. Who was the girl group that. That. I thought it was a K pop group, but it's like, oh, I don't know. My kids love that. No, they love that. My kids dancing they was doing. My daughter was doing all the dancing.

[Angela Yee]

They was killing it.

[Charlamagne tha God]

But I don't know them though, either. I didn't let my kids lost it when that came. What? They just. They just happened to be running back and forth through the house, and then that popped up on the Grammys and they stopped in their tracks.

[Guest or Interviewee]

That's what's up.

[Guest or Caller]

Hello?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Who's this? Hey, this is Jack from New Jersey. Jack from Jersey. What's up? Get it off your chest, Jack.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah, man.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I'm just calling the square Love, man. Charlie, what's up?

[Guest or Interviewee]

That's what's up.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Peace, King. How you doing, my brother?

[Angela Yee]

You walking? You good?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Now, listen, Envy, I used to see you in the club sometimes. I used to make music.

[Guest or Caller]

I don't do it no more, though.

[Guest or Interviewee]

Okay?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Because I want to spread the positive message. And I always hear y' all shout out the truck drivers out there in the world. And I'm a school bus driver. Okay.

[Angela Yee]

Hey, appreciate it.

[DJ Envy]

And we.

[Charlamagne tha God]

And we carry the most fresh cargo in the world. Shout out to all the bus drivers out there. I know them kids drive you crazy sometimes. No, I love kids, man. So it's all good.

[Guest or Interviewee]

You got to know how to handle them, you know?

[Angela Yee]

Okay.

[Charlamagne tha God]

We superior to children. As long as you showing love and you're giving good energy, they're not gonna feel like vibe from you. Okay, well, we appreciate you, brother.

[Guest or Caller]

I appreciate you, too.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Listen, if anybody going through something out there, man, put God first. See it through, man. We all go through trials and tribulations. Nobody is exempt from that. That's right.

[Angela Yee]

I appreciate that, brother.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You be safe on the road, all right? Y' all have a blessed one. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need the vent, hit us up right now. It's the Breakfast Club.

[Angela Yee]

Good morning, Ray.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Ray.

[Guest or Interviewee]

Ray.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yo, Charlamagne. Envy, what up?

[DJ Envy]

We lie.

[Guest or Caller]

This is your time to get it off your chest.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I got an indoor pool, a outdoor pool.

[Guest or Interviewee]

We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club.

[Charlamagne tha God]

We can get on the phone right now, here. Tell you what it is.

[Angela Yee]

We live.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Hello, who's this? Good morning.

[Angela Yee]

This is J. G. What's up, Envy?

[Charlamagne tha God]

What's up, J? Get it off your chest.

[Angela Yee]

Good morning. Yes.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Okay, so what I want to get off my chest this morning is I'm tired of all these people who are coming for Jay Z, AKA Sean, Corey Carter.

[Angela Yee]

I'm tired of it.

[Charlamagne tha God]

It's like y' all are hell bent.

[Angela Yee]

On seeing this man being taken down.

[Charlamagne tha God]

And all he's ever given us is black excellence. Him and his black wife, with his.

[Angela Yee]

Black children, giving back to the black community and doing nothing but great things.

[Charlamagne tha God]

For black people in the industry and above. Like, I'm tired of it. Get off of him.

[Angela Yee]

He ain't got nothing that's gonna take him down.

[Charlamagne tha God]

And as our own people, we shouldn't.

[Angela Yee]

Even wanna see him taken down. It's crazy when people be like, o, yeah, that is weird. You shouldn't even want to see that.

[Charlamagne tha God]

It's, like, real crazy. And wait, wait a minute. One more thing, Jess. I know your birthday coming up because you're an Aquarius like me. Shout out to the Aquarius season.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Period.

[Angela Yee]

My son's birthday was yesterday, so I'm giving a shout out to my son. He just turned 18.

[Charlamagne tha God]

He will be graduating high school this year.

[Angela Yee]

Happy belated, young fella.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yes. Yes. Oh, wait, and one more thing. Give off my chest.

[Angela Yee]

I'm tired of Nikki. I'm tired of Nikki. She posted up something last night and.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I woke up and I seen it.

[Angela Yee]

And she got a picture of Jay.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Z with Aaliyah and then Jay Z with Beyonce at young ages. And she's doing all this posting, but she's not posting her husband and her brother. Yeah, let's get to it.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah, let's get to it.

[Charlamagne tha God]

She woke up with violence. Yes, ma'.

[Angela Yee]

Am.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah, yeah, I woke up.

[Angela Yee]

Listen, I had a. I got.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I went to sleep early last night.

[Guest or Caller]

Cause I'm a teacher.

[Angela Yee]

So I got like a lot of rest.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I'm real rested.

[Angela Yee]

I went to sleep at 8 o'. Clock.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That's some good sleep.

[Angela Yee]

I know. Yes.

[Charlamagne tha God]

They don't even know what they're in for today. I'm gonna go. That's some good sleep right there.

[Angela Yee]

But I want to say yes, ma'.

[Guest or Caller]

Am.

[Angela Yee]

Are you having the Black Effect podcast this year?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Of course we having the Black Effect Podcast Festival. It'll be in Atlanta. Cuz I came last year.

[Angela Yee]

I came last year and I was sitting with your people because I said.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I was your cousin because we all cousins and we black and stuff. You had left.

[Angela Yee]

The security left.

[Charlamagne tha God]

But I'm just saying let me put my bid in Charlamagne. You should let me host it.

[Angela Yee]

Cause them hosts last year, they were cute.

[Charlamagne tha God]

But you need Jada G. I forgot who hosted it last year. Who hosted it last year?

[DJ Envy]

Me too. Me too.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That's the point. You know my producer who I work with on conversations on film. Shout out to Shatiq Beats on film.

[Angela Yee]

Who? Shatiq Chatique. Chatique.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Angela Yee]

That was crazy.

[Charlamagne tha God]

We was in the building last year. We was in the building. We gonna see y' all this year, too. Somebody hit you with a yeah.

[Guest or Caller]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Black Effect Podcast Festival. Yeah, he be lying. Exact envy. So stop lying. Envy. Don't do that. Nah, I'm see you this year, though. Don't do that. I'm gonna see you this year, too. And you need to let me be there on the stage.

[Angela Yee]

I'm coming.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I drove all the way to Atlanta last year. Yeah. Oh, man, thank you. Empty boots on the ground. You know what? I'm gonna make sure you get tickets, man.

[Angela Yee]

Period.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Eddie, put her on.

[Guest or Interviewee]

All right.

[Charlamagne tha God]

No, I'm saying I'm gonna make sure you get tickets. I got you that's the least I could do. Eddie, put her on hold. We're gonna take information, and so when we announce everything, I'm gonna make sure you get straight. You said that. You said make sure you sit next to Charlamagne the whole night. Absolutely. I don't have a problem with that.

[DJ Envy]

Okay.

[Charlamagne tha God]

All right, when we come back, we got the latest with Lauren. She's in la. She was at the Grammys last night. Boots on the ground.

[Angela Yee]

Hey, y', all, I'm here, but I was not at the Grammys. I am in la, though, but we'll talk about the Grammys.

[Guest or Caller]

Oh, damn.

[Angela Yee]

And lack there of us being there.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Oh, wow. Okay.

[Angela Yee]

Damn.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Everybody's waking up on violence this morning.

[Angela Yee]

I tried it. That is crazy.

[Charlamagne tha God]

All right, we'll get into that next Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[Guest or Caller]

Yeah.

[Angela Yee]

I'm not dumbing myself down. I'm being myself. Good. I'm the home girl that knows a little bit about everything and everything. Little brown girls look at you and go, I want to be like you.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Take me through that.

[Angela Yee]

Take me through there.

[Charlamagne tha God]

The latest with Lauren on the Breakfast Club. Ll talk to me. Oh, my God.

[Angela Yee]

Take us through there.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Now her intro say, I'm not dumbing it down. I'm just being myself.

[Guest or Caller]

Thank you.

[Angela Yee]

We were having a meet up.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Nice of you to join the class. Thank you.

[Angela Yee]

Be quiet. Hi, y'. All. Did you already cue me in?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yes, we queued you in.

[Angela Yee]

All right, so listen, I'm here in la. The Grammy weekend Grammy Awards went down yesterday here at the Crypto Arena. We were not actually there in attendance. We. We were told prior to us breaking it exclusive about d' Angelo's son not being invited to the Grammys. Uh, that it was too last minute. That I reached out to last minute. And then after I was connected with the CEO's team, we were told that we were waiting on an outlet to potentially drop out, that they would try and make accommodations. And then they just went ghost. We heard nothing. That's crazy. I came anyway, cuz I was like, if they do end up calling and figuring it out, I would rather be here than in Jersey trying to get on a flight. So I'm here.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You'll be there next year.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah, I'm not worried about it. You know, God makes room when it's time to make room.

[Charlamagne tha God]

And we had.

[Angela Yee]

We had impact at the Grimmys, regardless. When people saw that Michael Archer Jr. Who was Suavo Swo Twain, D' Angelo's son, that he was there on the carpet, people were literally texting Me, like, he's here. We're interviewing him. So I felt like we had presence. You know what I mean? Yes. So let's get into the show, and then we'll get to the in memoriam as well. So last night, Trevor Noah hosted the 68th Grammy Awards, and he kicked it off with some jokes, as he does all the time. He took a shot at Nicki Minaj. Let's take a listen.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Every single person here. John Legend, Billie Eilish, Phineas. Nicki Minaj is not here.

[Angela Yee]

She is not here.

[Charlamagne tha God]

She is still at the White House with Donald Trump discussing very important issues. Actually, Nikki, I have the biggest ass. I have it. Everybody's saying it. Nikki, I know they say it's you, but it's me.

[Angela Yee]

Wap.

[Guest or Interviewee]

Wap, Wap.

[DJ Envy]

Look at it.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Look at it, baby. That was actually more of a shot at Trump than it was at. Yeah, because saying that Nikki wasn't at the Grammys is an actual fact. The fact that the crowd cheered had nothing to do with Trevino. Yeah, the crowd cheered and was happy that she wasn't.

[Angela Yee]

She wasn't there.

[Charlamagne tha God]

All he did was state the obvious. It was a stab. It was a stab at both of them. He said they were discussing important issues like whose ass is fatter? That's the stab. But why?

[Angela Yee]

Wap is funny. That's a C song.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That's just hilarious.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

To do that.

[Angela Yee]

And Nicki Minaj got active right away on. On our ex. She shot back at Trevor Noah, and she says Trevor. Trevor refuses to come out the closet when everyone in the industry knows his boyfriend. Allegedly. Oh, my God. Why do we.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Why do they love the weaponized gay sexuality? Like, that's the go to. Every time he. I thought he was.

[Guest or Caller]

I'm sorry.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I thought he was knowledgeable. I thought Trevor Noah had hoes.

[Angela Yee]

Me too.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You talking about talking? I thought it was knowledgeable. You ain't never heard. I just heard her say it.

[Angela Yee]

Exactly.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You heard her say that last night. Now all. I thought it was knowledgeable. Something you heard six hours ago. I could have sworn. You couldn't have sworn.

[Angela Yee]

Listen, your barb is coming out. We got to keep going. So Trevor Noah. So Trevor Noah, at one point in the show, as he's, like, going into, like, opening monologues and awards, he finds Kendrick Lamar in the audience, and he has some funny things to say about the Kendrick and Drake brief. Let's take a listen.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Welcome back to the most nominated artist of the year, Mr. Kendrick Lamar, everybody. That's right. Nine nominations this year. Congratulations. And that is all I'm gonna say. Congratulations. I actually thought about writing a few jokes roasting you. But then I remembered what you can do to light skinned dudes from other countries. That was a good one. Nation are still recovering from the pain. You should have said light skinned biracial dudes from other countries. Don't forget the biracial. That's very important. Yeah, you would have threw that in there real quick. That was funny. That was a good one. That was good. I like that one.

[Angela Yee]

Yes. And last night, talking about making history, Kendrick Lamar became the most awarded rapper in Grammy history with 27 total wins, surpassing Jay Z's record of 25. That's crazy.

[Mimi Brown]

Yes.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I mean, very, very well deserved. I did want the cool Clips to win rap album of the year. Right. I wanted them to win that category just for the plot, you know what I'm saying? Because it's just like, you know, the Drake D Riders. Kendrick went in, they numb to that. But oh, the clips went in where it really hurt them. Right. But I. And I thought, let God. So tomorrow was a phenomenal. Phenomenal. But you can't be mad at all. And then, and then the Grammy that the Clips won. Kendrick was on that record too. Whips and chains.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah, for whips and chains. And so the Clips, then they performed at the GL at the Grammys, but they on the red carpet had a conversation about the fact that they had actually already won, but they were winners before they even walked into the crypto arena. Let's take a listen to the clips on the red carpet.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You know, we already took one home for best rap performance, so really happy about that change. Every January, we set intentions and make resolutions. But by February, a lot of those goals start falling off. Not because we don't want it, but because we think taking that next step is going to be so hard. Especially when it comes to starting a new business. That's why I rock with Shopify. If you're finally ready to invest in yourself and start that business, Shopify makes things simple. And if you already have a business, trust me, Shopify can handle anything you throw its way. That's one of the reasons Black Effect moved our stores there. Whether you're selling a few products or a full catalog, Shopify grows with you. One login gets you everything. No password chaos. Thousands of site templates mean you don't need to be a designer and your site still looks uniquely yours. The reason I love Shopify is because it's easy to access. Whenever you are getting somebody to support your business. You need to make it a as easy for them to support your business as possible and Shopify does that. They even have Shopify Sidekick AI that actually helps with marketing, planning and all the back end business stuff. They even help you sell on social media and even directly through chat GPT. Starting a business is hard but it's worth it. Trust me. I know. Don't be one of those people who let their dreams die early. Let Shopify help you and thank yourself later for not giving up. It's time for you to invest in your own business, not someone else's for a change. Head on over to shopify.combreakfast club and see what it feels like to be the one in control of your future. Future Friday Kick off the Winter Olympics in style with the opening ceremony from Italy. Featuring a special performance by Mariah Carey. Celebrate the greatest athletes from around the globe as they come together to go for gold. The opening ceremony of the Winter Olympics.

[DJ Envy]

Ilia Malady redefining this Sport.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Friday at 8 Eastern, 7 Central on NBC and Peacock this Sunday, iHeartRadio brings you live to Levi's Stadium in Santa Clara for the Super Bowl 60 tailgate concert presented by NetApp. It's the ultimate pregame party featuring an exclusive performance from Teddy Swims. Your front row experience will be on iHeartradio stations across the country and the free iHeartradio app this Sunday at 3:30 Eastern, 12:30 Pacific. Then after the concert, tune in to the Super Bowl 60 pregame show on NBC.

[Mimi Brown]

In the middle of the night, Saskia.

[Angela Yee]

Awoke in a haze.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Her husband, Mike was on his laptop. What was on his screen would change Saskia's life forever. I said, I need you to tell me exactly what you're doing. And immediately the mask came off.

[Angela Yee]

You're supposed to be safe.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That's your home.

[Angela Yee]

That's your husband.

[Charlamagne tha God]

To keep this secret for so many.

[Mimi Brown]

Years, he's like a seasoned pro. This is a story about the end of a marriage, but it's also the.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Story of one woman who was done living in the dark.

[Angela Yee]

You're a dangerous person who preys on vulnerable and trusting people. You're a creditor. Michael Levengood.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Listen to Betrayal Season 5 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Shout out Kendrick Lamar. Yeah, we've already won for the night. Just feels great. And you know, starting the night off right already with one win just feels really good. Chains and whips, of course. Shout out to Kendrick. It's just been a great Night so far, bro.

[Mimi Brown]

How you feeling?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Grateful to be here with my brothers. This is from this one for Virginia. It's for the 757. Everybody that, like, feels the way that we feel. And I'm going say the restoration of like, you know, east coast ambition in.

[Guest or Caller]

Terms of music and sound.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Kendrick got to get into hip hop heaven, right? Because Kendrick got the clips day for his Grammy and he got lefty gunplay at Grammy drop on the clues bomb for all the hip hop casinos in Los Angeles. Like, you got to get into hip hop heaven for that, right?

[Angela Yee]

Yeah, that was fire. GNX was a no skip album. It's a no skip album. Like, you don't have to any on the album. Yes. But shout out to my cousins, Big push and mail.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Mail to the seven fives. I'm so happy for the man. For skills. He won like a best spoken word or something. Best spoken word? Yeah. He want that too.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah. Now let's take a listen because speaking of Kendrick. So Kendrick and SZA won best record for Luther and Cher, who has not been on a big stage, a stage like the Grammys in some time, presented the award. And she accidentally presented it to Luther Vandross because the song let's take a. Let's take a listen. To be fair. Go ahead, Go ahead, play it.

[Charlamagne tha God]

And the Grammy goes to. Oh, they told me it was going to be on a prompter. Oh, the Grammy goes to Luther Grandeur. Drop on the clues, Boss Michelle. She said Luther Gandros.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah. Even Kendrick Lamar. Like, he looked around like they knew what she meant, but he looked like. Wait, she said Luther Vandross. But she. She meant to say the song, but she was a little thrown off. Been some time Luther.

[Charlamagne tha God]

It's not even Luther Vandross.

[Angela Yee]

That was probably her friend, you know.

[Charlamagne tha God]

But Kendrick come up and win it.

[Angela Yee]

She was so excited to see the name like, wait, where Lisa at?

[Charlamagne tha God]

That's dope, though. I want to be. I can't wait to get that old. I don't even know if my friend's dead or not.

[Angela Yee]

Wow.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You know what I'm saying? For real.

[Angela Yee]

Oh, my God. Kendric, Lamar and SZA and the team then came on stage to accept the award. Let's take a listen to them.

[Charlamagne tha God]

It's one of my favorite artists of all time. They granted us the privilege to do our version of it. When we got that clearance, I promise you, we damn near all dropped a tear. We know how much him and Sheryl Lynn poured into that record and being able to put our vocals of it. It proves that we were somewhat worthy to be just as great. They said, no cursing, though. And we said, you know what? We're gonna do just that. No cursing. And we're gonna make sure that this song represents love. So I wanna appreciate and give thanks to Sza.

[Angela Yee]

I just wanna say thank you to Kendrick for lifting me up. But what I really wanted to say is please don't fall into despair. Right now is a scary time.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I know.

[Angela Yee]

The algorithms tell us that.

[Charlamagne tha God]

It's so scary.

[Angela Yee]

And all is lost. There's been world wars, there's been plagues, and we have gone on. We need to trust each other and trust ourselves.

[Mimi Brown]

Trust your heart.

[Angela Yee]

We're not governed by the government. We're governed by God. And I thank you so much. Much.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Oh, I like that. I. I didn't see that. I didn't see when they won.

[Angela Yee]

So that was later in the show. Yeah. Yeah. Well, look, we have to wrap this hour, but in the next latest, I. We still have a little bit more Grammy things because we have some more acceptance speeches that I think you guys are going to want to hear. But also that DM D' Angelo and Roberta Flack tribute by Ms. Lauryn Hill went down seamlessly. It was like. It was. Oh, my God. It was playing so well. And we have some exclusive details around that that I'll be bringing you guys in the next ladies.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I just like seeing everybody giving all glory to God, man. You know what I'm saying? Scissor. That was incred. Incredible. I loved what Jelly Roll did. Okay? That's why I didn't like when Bad Bunny said before I say thank God. Like, no, always thank God first. Always put God first. Don't you ever in your life, as long as you brown Bad Bunny, put God second. Okay, you thank God first, then you say what you got to say.

[Guest or Caller]

That's right.

[Angela Yee]

You got to get ice out.

[Charlamagne tha God]

No, no, you know, you don't say before.

[Angela Yee]

I thank God.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You give all praises due to God first.

[Angela Yee]

Okay. Must have been outside. He like, hold on.

[Charlamagne tha God]

On. Well, the only person gonna really protect you. All right, well, that is the latest. When we come back, we got front page news, so don't go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get back to some front page news. This weekend, Shakur Stevenson beat TF Tiafimo Lopez, unanimous decision. I didn't see the fight. How was the fight, man? It was fantastic. The whole fight card Was fantastic.

[Guest or Interviewee]

Fantastic.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Okay. Salute to Shushu.

[Guest or Caller]

Bruce.

[Charlamagne tha God]

What's Bruce last name? Carrington.

[DJ Envy]

Right.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Bruce Carrington. He got busy.

[Angela Yee]

What unanimous mean? Is it a tie?

[Charlamagne tha God]

No, no, no, no, no. My God. Majority.

[Angela Yee]

Shut up and tell me what it mean.

[Guest or Caller]

Majority.

[Charlamagne tha God]

The judges said he won. No, I mean everybody. All the judges said he won. 119. 109 was the scorecard. Salute to Keisha Davis. Keshan is a killer. And Keisha got an evilness about him that I like. He come to the ring like, like, like the Joker, almost like, I'mma snatch your soul. He look like. I'm about to say he look like an evil Lake Stanfield, but keep Stanfield look evil too.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah, he did.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yes. Got busy. Salute to Keshan and salute to Shakur. Man, it was a great fight card. I mean, fantastic from top to bottom. Yep. And also the 2026 all star teams have been selected. Yes. LeBron James is on the Western team. He's just not a starter. So he's on the Western Conference team, but he's just not a starter.

[DJ Envy]

All right.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That's what everybody was. Seemed like they were looking for. What's up, man? Amy.

[Mimi Brown]

Good morning, Envy. Jess, Charlemagne. How y' all doing this Monday morning? Good morning. So we started this hour with the major new release of the Jeffrey Epstein files and questions about whether this is really the end of the investigation. So the Justice Department, they released about 3 million documents along with 2,000 videos and roughly 180,000 images, all tied to Epstein's crimes and the investigation around them. Them, it's the largest batch made public so far under that Epstein's File Transparency Act. And the newly released material includes records from Epstein's time in custody, documents related to his death, and the investigation files connected to his longtime associate, associate Ghislaine Maxwell. She's now serving that 20 year prison sentence for helping traffic and groom underage girls. And the Trump administration says this release now marks the end of its review, aside from from some limited court approved exceptions that it said it will work on if the court tells them to. But Democrats, they say this is far from over, that this is not the end of it. Lawmakers, they said they are pushing for transparency, and they argue that there are still more than 6 million Epstein related records that have only been released. And they said there's still half of those that still need to be released. They say too many documents remain withheld or heavily redacted, and they want clearer answers about why that is missing. Let's listen to California Congressman Ro Khanna.

[Charlamagne tha God]

On this that they've released at best half the documents. But even those shock the conscience of this country. And there is a demand for elite accountability. But the survivors lawyers that I've talked to have said that the survivors are still upset and they want to make sure the rest of the files come out. Some people who committed crimes. And that needs to be looked at. And we need to understand who were some of the associates of Jeffrey Epstein. Those names haven't come out. In fact, they were covered up. We need to understand who may have abused or raped underage girls. But then there's a broader issue, and that is that there are rich and powerful people who may not have committed a crime, but who are emailing Jeffrey Epstein, well, after he's a pedophile, talking about going to his island, talking about wanting to participate in wild parties. You know, that's what I don't understand. Right. Like, they put out the documents, you know, that are heavily redacted. And if the file, you know, if the files do come out and like, like, what's going to happen? Like, you know, I see names like Bill Gates floating around and Elon Musk and Prince Andrew. What's going to happen to those individuals? It seems like all of those individuals are too big to fail anyway. So, like, what's the point?

[Mimi Brown]

Yes, Charlotte, that's a very good point. Including you said Elon Musk, Bill Gates, Richard Branson, a Google co founder. There were a lot of names in this last batch. And a lot of people have been asking, so what happens happens next? I mean, if we get the unredacted files, what is going to happen? So investigators say that any new criminal charges would depend on what, if anything, emerges from the remaining material. But, you know, who knows if we'll ever get that again. The Justice Department says that they're done releasing any information. You've got more than 3 million files. This, this last batch. And so they said that they're finished.

[Angela Yee]

But you're right.

[Mimi Brown]

To your point, what is going to happen, especially with these very rich and powerful men who seem to all be in cahoots together to make sure that this information doesn't come out.

[Charlamagne tha God]

But Ro Khanna said something important, too. I mean, you know, even if some of these people aren't, like, implicated in any crimes, they were emailing with, you know, Jeffrey Epstein. Well, after the fact of people knowing that he was a pedophile.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Which is wild to stand on because, I mean, there's a lot of people who still communicate with folks like that.

[Mimi Brown]

Exactly. But is that a Crime, though. You know what I mean? It's maybe morally wrong, but can you charge them with a crime for emailing if you have no proof? You know what I mean? If there was no. If there's nothing to solidify that they actually, you know, committed an act, a criminal act.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Absolutely.

[Mimi Brown]

We will continue to see what happens with these Epstein files. And we talked about this briefly on Friday, and there's an update this morning. So journalists Don Lemon and Georgia Ford, they have been released from federal custody after being arrested while covering that anti ice protest at a church in Minnesota. Now, both say that they were there to report and not to protest and did no and deny doing any wrongdoing. Now, a federal judge earlier had refused to approve their arrests in the first place, saying there was no evidence of criminal behavior. And lawyers for both journalists say that they plan to fight the charges. Now the arrests are sparking a wider conversation. Killer Mike, he was asked about it on the Grammys red carpet last night. And let's listen to what he had to say.

[Guest or Caller]

In this country, you have a First Amendment right. You have your right for free speech. You have the right to the religion. You have the right to assemble, and you have the right to protest government according to your First Amendment. Hold on to that. The way you clutch your religious books.

[Charlamagne tha God]

There have been times when me and Don have not.

[Guest or Caller]

Have not agreed. That has not stopped the relationship and a friendship. I believe that brother loves and respects the people and his people. With that said, I was appalled to see him arrested, but I was proud as I was of Uncle Luke when he got arrested in the 90s. Fighting, fighting for our First Amendment rights. I was as proud as when I read about Frederick Douglass had to fight for our rights. What's the journey of truth for Harriet Tubman or Lucy Carson?

[Charlamagne tha God]

So he is in the tradition of.

[Guest or Caller]

Blacks that have fought and Americans that have fought in this country for our rights. And we should be right in tow with him right now.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Absolutely. This is not about Don Lemon. You know, sometimes people get caught up in the person. You know what I mean? Like, don't get caught up in the person. Get caught up in the injustice and injustice anywhere. The threat to justice everywhere. You know, what happened to them was an absolute injustice. Like, you cannot just wipe your ass with the Constitution in that way.

[Mimi Brown]

Very, very, very true. And so journalists everywhere, you know, are actually taking a stand. I saw it all over my timeline last week, and it continues to. To be a wider conversation this morning, and I'm sure, you know, this whole week. And while we Watch this play out. So we'll continue to watch that. And speaking of updates, we have another one involving Nicki Minaj and some clarity from the White House. So after Nicki posted online about receiving that Trump gold card, a White House official now says that that was not a legal visa and described it as a gold colored memento. It is not a document that provides residency or a path to citizenship. Despite what Nikki may have claimed online, that comes as she spent last night talking, posting heavily about the Grammys, not about the awards, but about politics, power and people she wants to hold accountable in the music industry. And many of those posts, of course, they included political attacks and broad accusations that were not backed or court verified. And there was a moment where the host, Trevor Noah, he joked about Minaj, her ties to Donald Trump. I know Lauren's gonna break that down later in the latest. But after Minaj, she referenced Lizzo online during her, one of her rants online. And Lizzo came forward and weighed in. Let's listen to what she had to say.

[Angela Yee]

Is you're about to see an influx of people who see that it is more profitable and more beneficial to join that side. This is Trump's first year as president. We got three more years of people who are going to surprise you and it's going to hurt your feelings and it's going to disappoint you. There's money behind everything. There are privileges behind every move people in these positions make. I'm not surprised.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I don't think it's more profitable and beneficial to join that side. Like, where is the evidence of that? Yeah, like, where's the evidence of that for people who are not in like the top 0.000001% of, of, of wealth in this country? Like, where's the evidence of that? Melania Trump movie just flopped this weekend and she's the first. Lake caught a huge brick, but she got.

[Mimi Brown]

But maybe it's not the money, but maybe it's like the privilege, you know, that comes with it. Or, you know, while the rest of us are dodging ICE or our family members are being deported, maybe there's some sort of protection. I mean, who knows? You know, I think that's, maybe what she's trying to imply is that, you know, so we'll, we'll.

[Angela Yee]

And then money. Right? I mean, she gotta be getting paid like something.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That was crazy too. Mimi, you said Lizzo weighed in. I don't know why you were doing.

[Angela Yee]

That is so hard.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I caught that one.

[Mimi Brown]

You like my, my double entendre. There.

[Charlamagne tha God]

All right, now, when we come back, Omar Epps, director Yelena Popovich and Akeem Berry Sr. Will be joining us. The new movie Moses the Black is in theaters now. And we're gonna talk to them next, so don't move. It's the Breakfast Club.

[Guest or Caller]

Good morning.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Morning, everybody.

[Angela Yee]

It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Charlamagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got some special guests in the building. The new movie Moses the Black is in theaters right now. We have Omar Eps, director Yelena Popovich, and Aem Berry senior. Good morning.

[DJ Envy]

Good morning.

[Angela Yee]

Good morning. Morning.

[Charlamagne tha God]

How y' all feeling?

[Guest or Interviewee]

First and foremost, Good, good, good.

[DJ Envy]

Very good. Nice. Thank you for having us.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Happy. Happy to have y', all, man. Moses the Black. Now, I know Moses was a real person. I did a little research. He was a 4th century saint. Yeah, right. Whose journey went from, like, violence to deep spiritual transformation. Who was he?

[Guest or Caller]

He was, I think he was like the real Robin Hood. Because even when he was on his, let's say, path of darkness, he was truly taking care of his community, you know, giving to the poor and things of that nature. And he came to an impasse in his life where he realized he had to become the change he was seeking. Which is parallel to the character that I played, male leak. He finds himself at a similar place. So the film explores those type of themes, obviously in a contemporary setting.

[Charlamagne tha God]

And how do you translate that, like real life arc into a modern crime drama?

[Guest or Caller]

Well, that's. That's Yelena, who wrote the film beautifully, but I'll let.

[Guest or Interviewee]

You should speak to that.

[DJ Envy]

Elaborate on that. Yeah. Well, what can I just say? First was really drew me. I really fell in love with the saint because of his incredible courage and humility. I mean, this is the man who was all the way on one side. He was a notorious gang leader that was known for his brutal violence. People were fearing, feared of him. And basically, he not only abandons at the moment when you heed the light within, you know, not only that he abandons the ways, but he goes on this journey of a true freedom that achieves that. The fruits that this true freedom bore through a lot of repentance, ascetic work was this basically ability to face martyrdom with joy. And that to me was like, this was an incredible man. That heart must have been amazing even before his conversion, you know, to have that kind of courage to say, I lived by the sword, now I'm gonna die by the sword. And this is. This is for me, this is the way I want to Go. And I want to glorify my Lord and Savior in that way. So this is something that really kind of grabbed me. So I. I thought about this for a long time, and I was trying to put a story together in the. In the 4th century, but for some reason, whether you call it writer's block or whatever, something was not quite there. I felt like it wouldn't do justice to the saint until I had epiphany. I was in an island of Evia, and I saw, literally, Chicago Grandma. I saw scenes of the movie in front of my eyes, and I. And I said to myself. And I said to myself, she said, no, I was. I was sober, but maybe you're not sober when you're in the prayer. Maybe. Maybe that's that meditation, you know, so. So what happens was like, you know, I said, okay, now I have a movie. But then I was like, oh, great. But what do I know about Chicago and the gang life? And that's. And that's where I knew that if I wanted to do the justice to this incredible saint, I had to go to Chicago. And by the providence of God, I believe I met this incredible gentleman, Reginald Akim Berry, whom I went to, respectfully, to ask a blessing. If I can make a movie like this, if this movie would help his community, and I can have him give you a little bit of a story of how that happened. I mean, he's. Without him, this wouldn't have happened.

[Guest or Interviewee]

Well, facts of the matter is a great friend of mine, Alex Pcos, who was the head of Cine Space, she obviously got in contact with him, and she. He told her, if she really want the real deal, you know, to contact me, me, and to be real with you, I was just gonna have lunch just to be cordial and blow this white lady off.

[Angela Yee]

Get her out of here, right?

[Guest or Interviewee]

And so again, during our lunch, you know, she has some. Some real interesting things to say. And when she mentioned that she wanted to get the essence of Chicago and street. The street life, you know, I thought that was a great opportunity also for me to speak about the street life. You know, it's not just as easy as people put it out there as guys just wake up one morning, you want to be a gang member, you want to sell drugs, you want to get killed? That's not unfold. You know, speaking from a personal perspective, you know, I am a preacher stunt. And so I was raised in the Baptist church, you know, to say that you don't need nothing material here care. You know what I'm saying? You're gonna be in poverty until you get in heaven. Then you're gonna have a street of gold. I'm like, well, listen, my next door neighbor getting money, wearing brand new shoes. I got holes in the bottom of my mind, you know, and sees the a fight or flight. You did what I'm saying. So over the years, I rose through the ranks of the four corner hustlers and became the chief myself. And during that time right there, again, we was what they call Negro rich, you know, but when they come kick that door in, you know what I'm saying? All that money went to the lawyer, you understand me? And I get 18 years in the penitentiary. And so while I was ruminating in the States, only supermax called tams, I had an epiphany, you know, how I need to change my life because a whole lot of people now that I've risen to the top angeline of this organization, and perhaps I can introduce change and bring it back to where the founders had it when they was giving breakfast and daycare and that sort of thing, you know. And so when I was emancipated in 2006, I started an organization called Saving our Sons. And through those works there, you know what I'm saying, me and Alex became like brothers from another mother. And you know, have met Yelena, you know, we, we put some things down on paper and the rest is history.

[Angela Yee]

I think a lot of what I saw in the movie too, we were talking about this earlier, was the message that there's already power in you, but you might not recognize it at a point and that we all need something to bring us up out of that. And for a lot of us, especially black community wise, it is religion that we turn to that helps us kind of like figure that out.

[Guest or Caller]

Yeah, I'm glad you said that because, you know, whether you're religious or not, when we use these words like faith and when we use words like redemption, people always attribute them to religion or spirituality. But there's a different angle as well. You, even if you're a science based thinker, you gotta have faith in the unknown. You're. All of your things are hypotheses because you weren't here a million years ago to say this carbon this, that and the other. And when we use words like redemption, you know, if you, you want to lose weight, you started working out in a diet and then you kind of went on off, you know, you put back on some pounds when you're on your road back, like, let me get back on my dame That's a form of redemption. You're redeeming yourself. If you did somebody wrong. When you come and you humble, you apologize, yo, my bad. That's a form of redemption. So I'm only saying that to say it's not just from a faith based angle. It's just from a human experience angle. What perspective are you looking at?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Three of you?

[Angela Yee]

Do you think that Malik was actually at first a bad guy? Like, like. Or just doing what he had to do, you know what I mean? Like, cuz it's different ways to look at it. You can come at. Come at it from two different perspectives, you know what I mean?

[Guest or Interviewee]

Absolutely. Malik has similarities of my life, you know. And again, you know, situations push you into situations.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah.

[Guest or Interviewee]

Like I said, I come from household nine kids, you dig? And so public aid, my father used to have to hide up under the porch when the public aid people come ring your bell and you sit on the couch and they test your teeth and lift your shirt up, make sure you got no whips on you and that sort of thing. And that was like traumatizing. You know, When I came a teenager, I'm like, well, I'm help my mom, you know, you had movies like the Mac. You had moves like Superfly. You said, this, this kilo right here, you can get your family out the hood, you know. And that impressed me. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, well, it's the only game that left me to play.

[Angela Yee]

Right?

[Guest or Interviewee]

You dig? In the 70s, you either gonna be an entertainer trainer, or you're gonna be an athlete or drug dealer. One of the three.

[Guest or Caller]

You know, key thing he just said. In the 70s.

[Guest or Interviewee]

Yeah, in the 70s. That's the era I grew up in. And so again, you know, by the time I became a chief in the 90s, you know, I was in the penitentiary. You did what I'm saying. And Mr. Hoover came along with a message of Century 21 saying there wasn't gonna be no more gang banging on each other. You didn't want to say, we're gonna be all one family. And what the government did, they threw him in a, in a, in a super maximum prison to silence them. And I became an ambassador for that message. And it wasn't long before I found myself in a super maximum prison to silence me.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Speak to that for a second. Because people like to say, you know, Larry Hoover is just some gangster criminal who just needs to be locked away. But, you know, people that actually know him in his story say, feel like he's a Political prisoner.

[Guest or Interviewee]

Absolutely, absolutely. I mean, again, the man is almost 80 something, you know what I'm saying? But every time come up parole, they show a picture of him being 20 something, six and you know, it's a fear factor. Politics. Move on. Fear, you know what I'm saying? Trump doing the same thing right now. Fear, you dig what I'm saying? If Mr. Hoover was home right now, a whole lot of things would cease and desist. Yeah, because people still give reverence to his name and his word. And so again you have Jeff Ford, same way, political prisoners, you know, this guy gonna free the, the bitcoin people, you know what I'm saying?

[Angela Yee]

Who.

[Guest or Interviewee]

Embellishment of hundreds of millions of dollars, you let them out of prison, but somebody, you understand me, who actually hadn't hurt nobody in almost 30 years, still holding them hostage.

[Angela Yee]

How difficult is that though, right? Because when you on the streets, you got, well, when you're in the streets, you got your soldiers, you know, I mean, people that look up to you to lead them in the street life. Right? And then when you're thrown in prison and now you are, you're preaching the total, the total opposite of that. The pressures of it is like, like.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Did we follow you still?

[Angela Yee]

But this, what we was doing out here, like, how you going? You know what I mean? What are the pressures like being and share your experience even when you were incarcerated? Like, was that any type of pressure being in there, leading the total opposite of what you was throwing in there for?

[Guest or Interviewee]

To be honest with you, I had several attempts on my life. This guy right across my throat.

[Angela Yee]

Yes, sir.

[Guest or Interviewee]

You know, cuz again, I went with the homosexuality, you need to go raping young brothers. I went with that move, you know. And so again, attempt was made in my life because you had older guys who had been there and they're gonna be there and they say, well listen, these are they wives and etc. And so again, I did go through a bit of trepidation about, you know what I'm saying? Because I put my guns down with the opposition, put their guns down. So I, I took counsel with my, with my father. And he told me, you know, it don't take no courage to blend into the crowd. It takes courage to stand out from the crowd. And so I took that challenge, you know what I'm saying? I met with all the rest of the chiefs in my community and let them know, listen, I'm going on this side of the street and I pray you will let me do this peacefully. Because again, you know, like I say, redemption. And I can always go back that way as well if my life is threatened, you know, but fortunately, God put a cover over me. And again, you know, I was able to bless my community with thousands of jobs over the last 19 years that I've been involved with incredible anti violence.

[Angela Yee]

And you feel that in the movie, though, like, the movie to me, I don't know if this is what you guys or you intended, but it's almost like a, if, like the messaging is like an act of like, activism of, of trying to wake people up on the streets right now and let them know to join exactly what you're talking about. And a lot of times those type of things are not accepted when we are putting our people together saying, look, y' all got these soldiers. But like, if y' all did this instead of this, right? So what has that pushback been like? Because I know y' all going into theaters and like, what's that?

[Guest or Interviewee]

Let's talk about it.

[DJ Envy]

Let's talk about that. Let's talk about that one.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I'm here. Disturbing news about this movie.

[Guest or Interviewee]

Yeah, listen, let me tell you something.

[DJ Envy]

Let him.

[Guest or Interviewee]

I think reality of the fact is, you know, the powers that be are trying to suppress this movie as we speak. You know, you had, you know, several studios, should I say theaters, who actually pulled the movie. You know, I have family and friends in various states who contacted me and said, man, listen, we can't find the movie. You know, it was there two weeks ago, but now we was, you know.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, they pulled it two days before the release.

[Guest or Caller]

Then we made the movie for. We made the movie for the community and they're actively and aggressively trying to keep the film from the community.

[DJ Envy]

Is Friday.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Kick off the winter Olympics in style with the opening ceremony from Italy featuring a special performance by Mariah Carey. Celebrate the greatest athletes from around the globe as they come together to go for gold.

[Guest or Interviewee]

Lipsy Ford.

[DJ Envy]

Sensational.

[Charlamagne tha God]

The opening ceremony of the winter Olympics redefining the Sport Friday at 8 Eastern.

[DJ Envy]

7 Central on NBC and Peacock.

[Charlamagne tha God]

This Sunday, iHeartRadio brings you live to Levi's stadium in Santa Clara for The Super Bowl 60 tailgate concert presented by net app. It's the ultimate pre game party featuring an exclusive performance from Teddy Swims. Your front row experience will be on iHeartradio stations across the country and the free iHeartradio app this Sunday at 3:30 Eastern, 12:30 Pacific. Then after the concert, tune in to The Super Bowl 60 pregame show on NBC.

[Angela Yee]

In the Middle of the night.

[DJ Envy]

Night.

[Mimi Brown]

Saskia awoke in a Haze.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Her husband Mike was on his laptop. What was on his screen would change Saskia's life forever. I said, I need you to tell me exactly what you're doing. And immediately the mask came off.

[Angela Yee]

You're supposed to be safe. That's your home. That's your home.

[Mimi Brown]

Husband to keep this secret for so many years. He's like a seasoned pro. This is a story about the end of a marriage, but it's also the.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Story of one woman who was done living in the dark.

[Angela Yee]

You're a dangerous person who preys on vulnerable and trusting people. Your creditor, Michael Lengood.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Listen to Betrayal Season 5 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. This is Ryder Strong, and I have.

[Angela Yee]

A new podcast called the Red Weather.

[Charlamagne tha God]

It was many and many a year ago in a kingdom by the sea. In 1995, my neighbor Anna Trainor disappeared from a commune. It was hard to wrap your head around. It was nature and trees and praying and drugs. So, no, I am not your dual. And back then, I lied to my parents, I lied to police.

[Angela Yee]

I lied to everybody.

[Charlamagne tha God]

There were years, Ryder, where I could.

[Angela Yee]

Not say your name.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I've decided to go back to my.

[Angela Yee]

Hometown in Northern California, interview my friends, family, talk to police, journalists, whomever I.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Can to try to find out what actually happened.

[Guest or Caller]

Isn't it a little bit weird that they obsess over hippies in the woods and not the obvious boyfriend?

[Angela Yee]

They have had this case for 30 years.

[DJ Envy]

I'll teach you something.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Sons of come around here in my wife.

[Guest or Caller]

Boom, boom.

[Angela Yee]

This is the red weather.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Listen to the red Weather on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Guest or Caller]

Harry is disgusting, but it's a sign of these times of now.

[Guest or Interviewee]

Well, the truth of the matter is Cook county has the biggest jail system in the country as far as prison. You know, the Cook county county where you hold you before you actually go to prison.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah.

[Guest or Interviewee]

And you have people who made a living off building these buildings. You understand me? To try to, I guess, incarcerate the whole mass of a generation. You know, again, I sat there from 1988 to 2006, you know what I'm saying? And it's not. I. I didn't change my mind. I had changed my mind, but the judge didn't change my time, you know what I'm saying? And the truth of the matter is, again, you know, my family has been in that community for over 60 years, and so we have roots.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah.

[Guest or Interviewee]

You know, so we Was able to come out with this message. You know, it resonated. It resonated. And I can say, you know what I'm saying, that the people are clamoring for this movie to be put back in the studio.

[Charlamagne tha God]

What reasoning did they give? Is it about race? Is it about the religious imagery?

[DJ Envy]

Like, listen to this. This is. You're gonna laugh now. The reason is, is it wasn't pre sold enough. Who pre sells, you know, like, like.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Like, like that's marvel.

[DJ Envy]

Like that, that. That. That's. It's a pre sold enough. And, and, and even people that bought up theaters were refunded.

[Guest or Interviewee]

What?

[Guest or Caller]

People bought out whole theaters to see the film and they refunded them. That doesn't even make sense.

[Angela Yee]

Specifically in Chicago.

[DJ Envy]

In Chicago, across the country, okay. And especially in Chicago Park, Cicero, you.

[Guest or Interviewee]

Know, in the urban areas where these particular movies are, these theaters are. You know, because we don't have any theaters on Madison street no more. You know, they don't have them downtown anymore. You know, you have to go to the outer suburbs to actually see a film. And again, I guess they say they didn't want the African American community, you know what I'm saying? To flood. They show like that.

[Angela Yee]

Damn. So money don't even make sense. I mean, box office only down matter no more.

[Guest or Interviewee]

Listen.

[Angela Yee]

Crazy.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, but. But they cry how they care about the communities, right? I'm sorry to say that, but yeah.

[Angela Yee]

And.

[DJ Envy]

And please let them know how authentic this film is. What does. What does. West side, Chicago, brothers. What do they think about this film? People that have seen it?

[Guest or Interviewee]

Listen, I mean, people was crying, you know what I'm saying? Mothers, daughters, brothers, you know, because you can see, literally see yourself. When people from Chicago saw Madison street, you know, they could relate to Madison Street. When they saw Central, they can relate to Central, you know, when they saw Shine King, people start cheering, clapping their hands, and this is just a play where you go to shoe shined it. But no one has ever brought the movie genre to the. In the west side, you know, you have people who, who profess the world change. But again, when you have a juice chain, you know, you have powers that be like, hold it, this might stop our gravy train. You know, people might stop selling drugs the way they was doing. People might stop shooting one another. And we're gonna lose some sheriff jobs. I'll give you a perfect example. When I was first taken to a town, super maximum prison. On the way there, I'm watching the surroundings. You know, I'm seeing houses. Those are Dilapidated. I'm seeing a horse with a bent back. I'm saying rusty tractors. But when I left the. Eight years later, he had brand new houses, brand new cars, boats in the driveway. Why? Cuz when the prison come, the gas station come, the bank come, the restaurant come. Cuz black folks going to come visit their people. You understand me? And so when we shut it down, people was out there literally with their signs. Don't take our prison away.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Madness. I wonder, Yelena, why. Why you think God showed you Chicago?

[DJ Envy]

You know, that's a good thing. I was on an island of. I was in Greece when that happened. And this is a crazy story because there's so many providential moments in my life. And in this story I. Let me share this one. I was in because I was struggling with the story for a long time. And I was in an island called Evia, that one of the. In a monastery, invited to spend the night by this elder who was in Greece. And they wanted to ask me if I can make a film about this other saint. And I said I never even thought of making a films about saints. I just simply read these stories and, and they resonated with me. So if unless I have something honest in my heart, I. I can't express it, then I'm the wrong person. So he says, no, no, no, no, just listen to me. Just sit here tonight and pray. I'm like, okay. I was so. So I sat there, I put a blanket, it was cold. And, and, and because naturally St. Moses was in my mind because I'm like, why I cannot tell this story in the fourth century. I'm doing it now for two years and something is playing with me until all of a sudden I see literally in front of me, Chicago funeral grandmother. Like, is this a. And then I'm like, well, I have a movie now. Like, so I was super happy. By the time I got home, it was in Athens. But then I was like, oh, but how I'm going to tell a story of Chicago? I got to go and meet somebody. Thank God. I met this amazing man here that, that without whom. And his brothers and sisters, I, I wouldn't be able to do this. We were able to. To really put this together. And yeah, so that's how this honestly came about. Somebody might think you're out of it, but I told you the truth. So. So that's, that's. That's how these things come. And, and it's a.

[Guest or Caller]

Not to cut you up, but it's a beautiful thing because Chicago is Chicago. But it's also a microcosm for. So to every hood in the country, right? It could be Memphis, it could be Houston, it could be.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You know what I mean?

[Guest or Caller]

Where. Where these. Where these situations are happening at a rampant pace. But it's perfect because Chicago is Chicago, sort of the epicenter right now of, like, gang culture and that.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That's the first place conservatives like to name. What about Chicago?

[Guest or Interviewee]

I mean, I'm a world traveler.

[DJ Envy]

Right?

[Guest or Interviewee]

Right. And everywhere I go, you know what I'm saying? They. When you mention Chicago, they glorify the fact of Al Capone as if that's gangsterism stopped with Al Capone. You know what I'm saying? I mean, FO's been around since 67. You did. And we started off again being with the Wilcox boys, protecting four corners on the west side of Chicago where Polish and Italians, you remember Martin Luther King, came to the west side about unfair housing because we couldn't move to the west side back in the 60s. And so that's where the Wheel Cox boys was formulated to protect us, our families, from these races of TAs. Chicago. And it morphed from Wilcox Boys to Four Corners. And then it became hustlers.

[Angela Yee]

So she prayed for God to show her Chicago, and he showed her old block. And then she came.

[DJ Envy]

No west side.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Okay, so what blacks then?

[Guest or Interviewee]

That's Pulaski Road.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Pulaski Road.

[DJ Envy]

And I want to say, can I. Can I. Can I please say.

[Guest or Caller]

I know now.

[Angela Yee]

I know.

[DJ Envy]

Can I say something? Pulaski South Pulaski Road, Right?

[Charlamagne tha God]

No, West Pas.

[DJ Envy]

That's a hood. And a lot of people ask me, well, were you. You know, there are people that have these things like, oh, well, are you a little bit afraid to go? And I'm like. I'm like, first of all, I'm Serbian. I grew up in a hood. That's number one.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That's right.

[DJ Envy]

You know, so. So. And I must say that I. And I. If I say this from my heart, I will literally tear up. So I'm going to try to keep it back. I've never felt more alive than going on the West 262 South Pulaski Road. Office, his office. And working with. With. With people of the west side of Chicago. I. I would never. I. I could never be grateful enough.

[Angela Yee]

I'm.

[DJ Envy]

I'm sorry, guys.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I felt a lot.

[Guest or Interviewee]

She earned the name Chief, man. We've been calling her chief all on the set because, again, she was able to give a master class. She took guys who literally on the corners selling drugs, guys who's in a rough house trying to raise rap in the hallway to their peers, you dig what I'm saying? And literally put them in front of the world.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah.

[Guest or Interviewee]

Had enough trust in these guys, put them in front of the world. I mean there was thespians there, such as Omar. Then she took some rappers and trusted them, you know what I'm saying? To come out the rap personality and become thespians and these guys encompass these personalities. And I was right there with my foot down, make sure they kept it off the authentic. For real. For real.

[Charlamagne tha God]

We getting you some tissue?

[Guest or Caller]

Yeah. Yelena's our soul sister and she was the Skipper.

[Guest or Interviewee]

Right.

[Guest or Caller]

And for those, because there will be those. Oh, white woman. Is that she from the hood? She from a war torn country. And when you sit and you talk with her and you discover her intention is coming from the right place and that ultimate place where that color and all of that doesn't exist. We are y'.

[Charlamagne tha God]

All.

[Guest or Caller]

That. It's the energy. Yeah, it's the energy that's really driving us. Really. So we're able to articulate the same.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Hard ass.

[Guest or Caller]

And, and, and have the, and, and, and create the conversation to, to piggyback on what Akeem was just talking about. It's like, nah, she went boost to the ground, you know, in the mud. Showed up and was there and was comfortable because the people could feel that.

[Guest or Interviewee]

And energy, you know what I mean?

[Guest or Caller]

They could feel that energy emanating for her from her. So everyone felt that it was a safe space.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You know what I mean?

[Guest or Caller]

To give and to be vulnerable and to expose those parts of themselves.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You said you never felt more alive, Elena. Like I want to, I want to hear more about that because a lot of times people talk about places, they talk about people they never talk to.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

So you actually went there and spoke to these individuals. What made you feel so alive?

[DJ Envy]

There's so much love.

[Guest or Interviewee]

Love.

[DJ Envy]

There's so much humility and maybe, maybe there's a lot of destruction. And I always say, like when we, sometimes I have both of my boys there in sports and any, any serious athlete will tell you that you're as good as your worst day. So if people want to see what their souls look like, they can go visit those inner cities.

[Angela Yee]

I promise you.

[Guest or Interviewee]

I mean, again, another thing that impressed.

[DJ Envy]

Me about her and, and the heart, you'll feel alive. I, I, I, I mean maybe because I, I, I, I, I love God. I'm, I'm, I'm a believer for sure. Like the connection. People have faith there because that's all they have. And I know what it means to have only faith. And that's how to live by. And I don't consider that a curse. I consider that a gift. Because when we are weak, we are strong.

[Angela Yee]

Strong.

[DJ Envy]

And this is, I feel where we connected and. And. And people opened up and they gave me so much love and trusted me and I. And that gave me courage because we did not have all the funds. We did not have Wiz Khalifa. We did not have 50 Cent. Omar apps. There was nobody there. Nobody, nobody. We were just thinking, there's going to be maybe one of the rappers gonna wrap these lines. And. And little by little, things were happening. And it was beautiful to see how this. And then I couldn't let the community moments when it looked like it was not gonna happen, but I just gave it all to just do the justice to these beautiful people. They've. You know, they reminded me that it's those moments that matter when you. When you feel joyful and alive.

[Guest or Caller]

Take that, Dr. Umar.

[Charlamagne tha God]

No, I'm just joking. Salute to you, brother.

[Guest or Interviewee]

Salute to you, brother.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Listen, we gonna have a screening for Moses the Black. Eddie.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Set it up. I see it showing that one of The AMC Theaters, AMC Empire 25 in New York call them. That's what we be using. We're gonna. I'm gonna buy out a. A theater for Moses the Black.

[DJ Envy]

Thank you so much. Thank you for having us. You're. You're giving us a platform. That's wonderful.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Senior Elena Popovich on my apps, man. Thank y' all for coming.

[Guest or Interviewee]

Thank you, S. Man. We appreciate it.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Let's get to the latest with Lauren.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah. I'm not dumbing myself down. I'm being myself. I'm the home girl that knows a little bit about everything and everything. The little brown girls look at you and go, I want to be like you.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Take me through there. Take me through there. She going the latest with l' Oreal on the Breakfast Club. Ll Cool.

[Angela Yee]

All right, y'.

[Mimi Brown]

All.

[Angela Yee]

So going back to the Grammys really quickly because we gotta make sure we talk about Lauryn Hill and the tribute that she did to d' Angelo and to Miss Roberta Flack. Now, she. Lauryn Hill opened up the immemorium with her tribute to d'. Angelo. Go ahead. I mean, you. I know you got some more. You got more audios for that tribute. Yes. But so from what I was told. Because. So what I was told is that Lauryn Hill actually curated the tribute herself. Like, personally, there was. I saw Leon Thomas on The carpet. Talking about the fact that she actually called him because he was a part of the tribute. But Michael D, d' Angelo's son, who actually went to the Grammys, he told me that Ms. Lauren Hill reached out to him to even come and watch the rehearsal the day before, but he got in too late, so he missed it. So she was making sure personally. She took her time to make sure people were involved and saw different things. Lucky day, actually, was one of the people involved as well, too. He did a cover of Brown Sugar.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Brown Sugar.

[Angela Yee]

And then you had. Look, I was singing along it. And then you have Raphael Sadiq, Anthony Hamilton, who did Lady. And Leon Thomas came in with Devil's Pie.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Who y' all said that was? Leon Thomas.

[Angela Yee]

Leon Thomas. Leon Thomas Killed. I know it's not a competition. And shout out to everybody. Oh, no, baby. Just yes. Angelo tribute. But Bilal and Leon Thomas, like, killed it.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Well, I sound like how I think I sound when I'm singing that song.

[Angela Yee]

You never thought you sounded like that. You never sound. Never mind. Go ahead. Yeah. And then they, of course, they honored Robert Roberta Flack as well. And the big surprise of the night was when Wyclef came out to join Lauryn Hills. She did the famous breakdown with the world.

[Guest or Interviewee]

Like, she.

[DJ Envy]

She hit that.

[Charlamagne tha God]

She did that part.

[Guest or Caller]

That's dope.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Why is it a surprise when Wyclef come out? It's just surprise. People that prize comes out. Like, what you doing here?

[Angela Yee]

A lot of reasons why he shouldn't be there. And that would be a surprise.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah, I'm surprised that Wyclef did.

[Angela Yee]

I think people just love to see them together. I know Michael was telling me about, like, his experience at the show, and he was saying that when Wyclef came out, he lost it. Like, it was just a moment to see. And people were wondering if Angie Stone would be honored as well, too. They did make sure they had Angie Stone on the screen as well. I also saw Irv Gotti and Malcolm Jamal Warner. So it was a great immemorial, you know. Yeah, I know. Sad to have lost all those people, but they honored them very well.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah.

[Angela Yee]

Shout out to October London. He did the Roberta flag. He was a part of the Roberta Fleck tribute. Yes. And John Baptiste was a part of the d' Angelo one as well. He was on the Keys, too. So was John Legend.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Legend, right.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah. John Legend was a part of it.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah.

[Angela Yee]

As well. Yes. There was a lot of names, but, yeah. So, I mean, we don't have time for Much. In this hour and the next latest, we're going to get into that Shakur Stevenson fight and the hair falling off and all the things.

[Charlamagne tha God]

We don't, we don't need you to talk sports. We're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna welcome the Grammys.

[Angela Yee]

I do have more from the Grammys before. Oh.

[Guest or Caller]

First of all.

[Angela Yee]

Because let me tell you something, you don't have to be a avid, like I love boxing person to watch a boxing match and, and want to mention and shout out somebody for winning and somebody for ha. Down.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Right down.

[Angela Yee]

Shut up, shut up, shut up.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Oh, go ahead, go ahead.

[Angela Yee]

I was going to say I'm wrapping up the Grammy stuff this hour and I did want to take time to salute Tank and Brian Michael Cox because I attended a pre Grammy brunch that Brian Michael Cox does every year. He raised. They raised $50,000 in less than four minutes for HBCU students in HBCU week. That was like fire to see like in the room on the moment drop.

[Charlamagne tha God]

A bomb for them. That's dope.

[Angela Yee]

Yes. I posted that audio to the Bronar Grinding and the Breakfast Club Instagram, so you guys can go take a look at that as there. Well, there as well. And we'll be talking more about it on the latest with Marla Rosa, the podcast. I interviewed them and John B. As well and a couple people that were there about the moment. So.

[Charlamagne tha God]

And, and make sure you get that money, Tank. Cuz be lying. They be in the moment and want to look good and. And then you can't get it. Yeah. And let me salute to Trevor Noah. I mixed up Trevor Noah and Don Lemon that last hour and I would never want to do that to my guy. Trevor Nova. He had me on his show. Trevor Nova.

[Guest or Caller]

I apologize.

[Angela Yee]

You said he was gay.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That's what I didn't understand. I'm like, where did you get that from? And you stood on it. I was thinking Don Lemon, cuz she was talking Don Lemon as well. And Nikki been going back and forth.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Cuz I didn't hear her talk about Don Lemon. I was thinking, cuz Nicki Minaj has been going back and forth with Don Lemon.

[Angela Yee]

Don Lemon was viral too at the Grammys cuz he got to send an ovation at Clive Davis's Grammy party. And Envy saw that video and I think it just kind of.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah, I mixed them two up. My bad. Trevor, I ain't want I a do that to you, bro.

[Angela Yee]

Anyway, speaking of gang, shout out to Duran Bernard for winning the Grammy Bringing his on stage and giving that dramatic speech. But he's himself. I love him so much. That made me so happy to see that. So shout out to Duran Bernard. Nobody could accept that like him. Nobody.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I love him.

[Angela Yee]

I love him so much.

[Charlamagne tha God]

All right. Speaking of gay sh. Man, who you giving that donkey to, man? I need all the unserious journalists. All the unserious people who just ran with the Pusha T, Eminem and Jay Z are in the Epstein file story. I need y' all to come to the front of the Congress. We like to have a word with y'. All. Even though me doing this ain't gonna change your minds anyway, because nobody cares about the truth and the lies. More entertaining. Correct? You know, I. I still want to put it out there. All right, we'll get to that. Next. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. This is America.

[Angela Yee]

There is no question that there are.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Problems in this country between police and community. Yes, you are a donkey.

[Angela Yee]

To the latest on that police killing of a black man.

[Mimi Brown]

Not a new development. Developments in the deathly spa shooting rampage.

[Guest or Interviewee]

And yesterday was a really bad day.

[Charlamagne tha God]

For him, and this is what he did.

[Angela Yee]

And so we are in a state of emergency.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Okay. White supremacist violence is. It always has been, the number one threat to our society.

[Guest or Caller]

But I'm also very proud that my wife is white.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Breakfast Club, bitches. All right, Charlene, please tell me, why was I your donkey of the day? Well, donkey of the day for Monday, February 2nd, 2nd day of black History Month, goes to all the unserious journalists, all the unserious people, period, who just ran with the Pusha T. Eminem and Jay Z are in the Epstein file story. Yes, we are going to talk about that this morning because I don't understand, and I would love to get some understanding, okay? If you haven't heard, this weekend, the DOJ published millions of pages, videos and images from his Epstein investigation under the Epstein files Transparency Act. I believe they said it was roughly 3, 3.5 million records. By the way, whenever something about the Epstein files comes out, it never fails that President Donald Trump does something ridiculous.

[DJ Envy]

Okay.

[Charlamagne tha God]

This past Friday, independent journalists Don Lemon and Georgia Fort were arrested by federal agents in Minnesota. They were accused of conspiracy and violating the First Amendment rights of worshipers during an anti ice protest at a city's church in St. Paul. Both of them were released on bond following their initial court appearance. And President Trump said former President Barack Obama should be arrested. Okay. There is a direct correlation between Epstein files being released and President Donald Trump doing or saying something crazy to deflect. Okay? It just is. Now, there are all types of things in these files. First of all, massive privacy failure because 43 survivors of Epstein's abuse were published without redaction. You got addresses, driver license photos. So now these people are getting harassed online. It's nasty. Okay? Then there was evidence suggesting a wide, tighter trafficking network. Okay? They got newly disclosed material that suggests Epstein may have traffic girls to other wealthy, powerful men, contradicting earlier DOJ claims that there was insufficient evidence to pursue others. You also saw in the files a lot of communication with high profile individuals. A lot of emails and communications back and forth between Epstein and many wealthy, powerful people. Okay? But I have to say, the presence of names does not necessarily imply wrong doing. All right? Elon Musk, Bill Gates, bunch of politicians from the uk Now, I know people are wondering what is going to come of all this. And the answer is probably nothing legally anyway. I mean, the DOJ Deputy AG Todd Blanch said the files do not currently provide enough credible prosecutable evidence to bring new charges against other figures. I would say, well, if you take out all the credible prosecutable evidence evidence before you release the files, of course they don't have enough credible prosecutable evidence. Okay? But I want to get to the Pusha T, Jay Z, Eminem of it all, because that's what went crazy on my algorithm. And I have question. I have one question. There's one question for the room. What do hate more, reading or accountability? What y' all think? Accountability? Reading. I think reading, too. Okay. I think reading as well. Okay. I don't understand why y' all are so cool, quick to want to tear our own down without doing just a.

[Angela Yee]

Little bit of research.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Okay? By the way, I. I saw way more headlines about Pusha T and Jay Z than I did Eminem. But that's not surprising because we love tearing our own down. Even though when you're talking hip hop, Eminem is one of us. Okay, but I don't even like the headlines I saw him. All right? Connecting Pushy T, Jay Z and Eminem to something like the Epstein files. Come on, man. Okay, listen, for everyone who may not know, let me explain to you. Mentions of these artists didn't come from Epstein's personal records. They didn't come from reports supported by law enforcement. Okay? These stories came from a crisis intake report, a public hotline submission, a tip that some random person called in from 2019. They aren't backed by court findings, indictments, confirmed evidence, and if you actually read the story. Stories, they just simply don't make any sense. Okay? What the hell would Jay Z be doing with Harvey Weinstein and Attorney General William Barr in 1996? That was the year his first album came out. Do you really think Pusha T in 2007 was hanging around Harvey Weinstein and with one of the victim's handlers? In the Eminem story, the woman describes how she weighs 300 pounds, so a video of her would be easy to find. This is her words, not mine. She says this in the report. She weighs 300 pounds, so a video of her would be easy to find. And in the Eminem story, she said when she woke up, she saw someone recording with a phone and she thinks it was Diddy.

[Angela Yee]

Okay.

[Charlamagne tha God]

All right, Once again, these are public hotline submissions, not nothing within the defile. These are public hotline submissions. The TIPS itself don't imply these individuals were investigated, okay? Nor does it in any way imply guilt for any of these accusations. The DOJ literally said some of the accusations. Polls could be fake or falsely submitted, by the way. Anyone who actually took the time to read any of these stories would know that. Now, I don't have a problem with people reporting this. I just don't understand how y' all don't report this with proper context. All you outlets know that people don't read past headlines. So if you put Pusha T, Jay Z, Eminem, in the Epstein files, everybody is going to run with it. And I just be having to sit back and think, do we realize how much we are getting played? Okay. Whenever the powers that be want to deflect from what they got going on, they will always throw meat to the blacks, okay? Because they know nobody controls the algorithm like black people. All right, why do you think they like utilizing black influences? Black rappers, black artists? Because nobody controls the algorithm like we do. Nobody gets people going like us. Oh, Epstein files coming out. Okay, put out some of the stuff from the DOJ tip line. There's some big names in there and it will be good this week, weekend, because Pusha T is nominated for all types of awards at the Grammys this year. And people on social media, by people, I mean Drake fan pages will have a field day with this. And they will talk about this so much that it will keep us out of the algorithm. Do we not understand how black culture is being used to protect the agendas of the elite? Okay, Epstein files come out Friday. Don Lemon and Georgia Fort. Black journalists get arrested. President Obama gets threatened with jail time. And just for A little razzle down dazzle Jay Z, Pusha T. Eminem and the Epstein files. All to get your algorithm focused off the relationship between Jeffrey Epstein and some of the most powerful people in this world. And sadly it worked. But listen, when you black and successful, it comes with the territory. And as my therapist tells me often, you can't have your success without the problems that come with it. And sadly, unserious journalism is one of the those problems. Please give all these unserious journalists who just ran with the pushy T. Eminem, Jay Z is in the Epstein file story. The biggest he haw.

[Guest or Interviewee]

All right.

[Charlamagne tha God]

And I know I said all that for nothing because nobody cares about the truth when the lies more entertaining.

[Angela Yee]

Which I saw in a lot of the comments on all those blogs who posted that. So Charlemagne, the people.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Is they with you?

[Angela Yee]

Cuz they was like. So they was quoting them up and down the way.

[Charlamagne tha God]

All, all of it makes sense.

[Angela Yee]

All them comments.

[Charlamagne tha God]

All right. Yeah. I wrote that in my first book. Nobody cares about that. I wrote about why nobody cares about the truth and the lies. Yes. And I've been saying that for well over a decade.

[Guest or Caller]

Yeah, decades.

[Charlamagne tha God]

And sadly, it just gets worse and worse. It ages well. I thought it would have slowed down from 2014, 2015. It's just gotten worse and worse. People are getting paid for it. People are getting paid for it now. So that's what makes it worse. They weren't getting paid for it. It wouldn't matter. There's no consequences. But anyway, when we come back back, Gerald Miller will be joining us. If you don't know who that is, I'm sure you. Yes, Big Baby gonna join us. Big Baby. Don't you come in here with no goddamn hairp. Let me go check and make sure. Big Baby is the boxer that fought over the weekend. It went viral. His hairpiece flew off.

[Angela Yee]

He coming up here in a few minutes.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yes, we going to talk to Big Baby. That's right.

[Angela Yee]

Bring his ass in here.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Charlemagne went to go see if he got his hairpiece on this morning. Did you leave some glue behind? He not here yet, cuz. I know what you mean. He agree with. They said he coming up out. Oh yeah, he's in the green room. I just want to know if you got his headpiece on. Don't you come in here with no goddamn hairpiece. Big Baby, don't you do that to me.

[Angela Yee]

He not going to come with it on.

[Charlamagne tha God]

He know he can still fight. Just watch him out for a little bit. Yeah. See the boxes. Just be careful. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody.

[Angela Yee]

It's DJ Envy.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Just hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. He just won this week in the Madison Square Garden. He's 27 and 12 draw bars, ladies and gentlemen, from Brooklyn, New York. He has his tims on today. You know Gerald Big, Big Baby Miller.

[Angela Yee]

Welcome, brother.

[Guest or Caller]

Thanks for having me.

[Charlamagne tha God]

What the hell are you thinking? What the hell? I'm watching the fight live. I'm literally watching. I'm watching the fight live. Yes. And as I'm watching, I'm like, man, I must be high. This edible kicking in because it look like big baby head is moving.

[Guest or Caller]

I was high too. I don't know what I was thinking, but I said, excuse my lang. I got roll with it, cuz. Man, I was at head, you know, I'm trying to say it was breaking normally last night, and I blamed it on my mom too. I kind of felt bad about that. I said, you know what? I'm just going to roll with it. So anyway, I was head here, but, you know, I ended up putting enhancements, all that stuff in there. I'm like, I went to Spanish spot Cuban's in Miami, man. Left it in there and went to training. Watched my hair out. Half of my hair fell out. And I says, okay, I ain't ready to go bald yet. Can't pull a shoulder, man, just yet.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I say, you got a nice head for a bald. When I first saw the piece come.

[Angela Yee]

Off, I was like, oh, damn. You could have just came like that.

[Guest or Caller]

You know what it was? I wasn't ready to do it just yet. Like, you know what? What if it do fall off in the ring? I'm like, man, that might be a good thing. I said, man, it could be 50, 50. So I went to my boy. I went to my boy.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Had to.

[Guest or Caller]

We had to win after. So I was getting my ass before that point. I ain't going to lie to you. I feel like my tr. He whooping your ass. I'm like, first, yeah, you're not turning up. I said, see the hairpiece? I yeah, we definitely got to win this. I can't go back to the block with my head looking like this.

[Charlamagne tha God]

So. So did they glue it on? Like, what? What? They didn't sew it to a scalp. Envy or they glued it on. It was flapping.

[Guest or Caller]

Yo, my man said he put the tape. Plus he hit me with the roller. Like, sh. Like he thought he was painting the wall. Like he put the glue and the tape on. He said it's gonna be double reinforcement. I thought we was gon right, but, man, my boy BE was knocking me aside.

[Charlamagne tha God]

The head boy sanctioned by boxes. Is that legal?

[Guest or Caller]

What you mean? Yeah, y. So you want. You. You want to do you want. You gotta come. You want to take it off?

[Angela Yee]

Yeah, I was gonna say what's under there?

[Guest or Caller]

Yeah, I do it, though, cuz. I, you know.

[Angela Yee]

Don'T give me no jabs or nothing.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You got the George Jefferson. So why can't you take over? You need.

[Guest or Caller]

Honestly, honestly, honestly, I was saving it for y', all, bro. I was.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Big baby.

[Angela Yee]

Yes.

[Guest or Caller]

Let's go back a little bit.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Big baby, I need you to grow up. Come on, man.

[Guest or Caller]

Listen, listen.

[Charlamagne tha God]

What are you doing?

[Angela Yee]

It's so funny.

[Guest or Caller]

It's so funny. I'm listening real quick. My son woke up this morning. He says, daddy, can I see head? I was like, for what? It's ugly. He's like, I like it. And he laid on my head. I was like, you know what? He's five. He's four years old. So I was like, you know what? I killed three more days, and I'm.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Probably So is that real here?

[Guest or Caller]

That's my real hair.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That is real. So that's real here.

[Angela Yee]

This my real hair.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You ain't watched the fight. This was what was under the wing. I did, but I didn't know the.

[Guest or Caller]

Whole thing was going on. I got real hair. Like, I really have hit. So it was just at that moment in time, I was like, man, I don't want to go in there with a ball yet. So I slapped me. Go slap the piece on.

[Angela Yee]

You got the perfect head for the ball. Yo, yo, I'm co signing it. You got.

[DJ Envy]

Go ahead.

[Angela Yee]

Give you permission to ball it out.

[Guest or Caller]

I'm with the ball.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Do you fight your barber now? Whoever glued that on do, you know.

[Guest or Caller]

Like, he's never given me a cut before, but he usually gives my cousin a cut. So I'm gonna call my cousin, yo, bro, I ain't ready to go bald yet. He's like, yo, my man got got the piece.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I think he was in my comment, he was like, I didn't do that.

[Guest or Caller]

Yo, my cousin, he can park in the car, so he gonna probably come up and tell y'. All. But I was like, yo, for real, he get the units. He's like, yeah, yeah, slap it over real quick. So I walked up, bad happens. Slap it over like, yo, this look kind of fire you for that.

[Charlamagne tha God]

How much he charging for that big baby, man?

[Guest or Caller]

Like, 700. Last minute.

[Angela Yee]

700.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You gotta get 650 back.

[Guest or Caller]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Let me ask you a question, though. When the headpiece came off, did it hurt more than any punch you took that night.

[DJ Envy]

It's so Friday, kick off the Winter.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Olympics in style with the opening ceremony from Italy.

[DJ Envy]

Featuring a special performance by Mariah Carey.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Celebrate the greatest athletes from around the globe as they come together to go for gold.

[DJ Envy]

Let's see for sensational, the opening ceremony.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Ceremony of the Winter Olympics. Ilia Malady. Redefining this Friday at 8 Eastern, 7 Central on NBC.

[DJ Envy]

And Peacock.

[Charlamagne tha God]

This Sunday, I Heart Radio brings you live to Levi's Stadium in Santa Clara for the Super Bowl 60 tailgate concert. Presented by NetApp, it's the ultimate pre game party featuring an exclusive performance from Teddy Swimming. Your front row experience will be on iHeartradio stations across the country and the free iHeartradio app this Sunday at 3:30 Eastern, 12:30 Pacific. Then after the concert, tune in to the Super Bowl 60 pregame show on NBC.

[Mimi Brown]

In the middle of the night, Saskia awoke in a haze.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Her husband Mike was on his laptop. What was on his screen would change Saskia's life forever. I said, I need you to tell me exactly what you're doing. And immediately the mask came off.

[Angela Yee]

You're supposed to be safe.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That's your home.

[Angela Yee]

That's your husband.

[Mimi Brown]

To keep this secret for so many years, he's like a seasoned pro. This is a story about the end of a marriage, but it's also the.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Story of one woman who was done living in the dark.

[Angela Yee]

You're a dangerous person who preys on vulnerable and trusting people. Your creditor, Michael Levengood.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Listen to Betrayal Season 5 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Guest or Caller]

Segregation in the day, integration at night.

[Angela Yee]

When segregation was the law, one mysterious black club owner had his own rules. We didn't worry about what went on outside.

[Charlamagne tha God]

It was like stepping in another world.

[Angela Yee]

Inside Charlie's place, black and white people danced together. But not everyone was happy about it. You saw the kkk. Yeah, they was dressed up in their uniforms.

[Charlamagne tha God]

The KKK set out to raid Charlie.

[Angela Yee]

Take him away from here.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Charlie was an example of power.

[Guest or Interviewee]

They had to crush him.

[Angela Yee]

From Atlas Obscura, Rococo Punch and visit Myrtle beach comes Charlie's place, a story that was nearly lost to time. Until now. Listen to Charlie's place on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Guest or Caller]

Funny, because I didn't realize it came over, but I felt a draft. Like, I felt like I had, like, I had like an indoor AC moment. I'm like, nah, I don't think it happened. But then I'm sitting down, and my coaches gave me instructions. But he stuttered twice, and that's what gave him. He never stuttered. He was like. He looked up like this. Like, his eyes went. Really would have came up. I'm gonna look at the jumbotron. Cause the Jumbotron gonna have the replay.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah.

[Guest or Caller]

So when I went like this, redo ridiculous. And I said, oh, they got me. I said, what? We're gonna roll with it. Let's go, baby.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah. And I got.

[Guest or Caller]

I tossed it in the crowd. I said, that's how I get back to work.

[Charlamagne tha God]

So did you feel more exposed when the hell left or when the camera zoomed in? Like when you saw it on the Jumbo?

[Guest or Caller]

You like, oh, yo, the minute I seen on the Jumbo Crown jumbotron, I was like, oh, yeah, we fried. We cooked in this one, so might as well. We gotta win this fight now, man.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Does it bother you that people know you more for the hairpiece than the actual boxing?

[Guest or Caller]

You know what it's for years ago, you know, when I met sh. A few years ago, man, they knew me for boxing, you know, I mean, we had a lim night a little bit, and I was. I'm always been a funny guy, you know, I'm always making fun of myself. You know, DJ Self is like my God brother, you know, I mean, so, you know, dealing with him and you got. You can't be. You know, you got to know how to roll with the punch. But I'm saying. But like. Like being from. Like I said, being from New York, even being from New Jersey, New York, we all grew up just cutting each other. So if you can't take somebody cutting on you, that's what made me good in boxing. Like, I could roast you and be cracker by later on. You know what I'm trying to say? So I've always been able to roast myself. That's why it's hard for people to get at me in school. Plus, I was always fighting, too. So anyway, I beat up all my bullies after they bullied me, but that always made me tough skin. And God made me this way, the way I am right now. Yeah, I thank God for that, you know, I mean, because I go, yeah, I can laugh. Laugh it off. And plus, like I said, man, I can still take your girl with this hair.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Is the hairpiece regulation approved by the boxing commission?

[Guest or Caller]

You know what, it's not regulated or approved per se, but I know you go pre fight inspections and they check you for your body parts and, you know, make sure everything is good or whatever. And I was like, yo, I was thinking about what if he canceled the fight because I got this piece on. I'm like, fine, you ain't gonna know. And he tested real quick and he kept it moving. I was like, all right, we good, let's go. We gonna run out. What happened is they just check your scalp, they squeeze your head, make sure you got no fractures in your jaw or nothing like that. And of course, you don't really want like long hair with things, you know, whipping the whip in the air and all that, so. He just touched my scalp.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Should fighters start listing hair pieces with mouth guards and cups during inspection?

[Guest or Caller]

Man, I think, I think it's definitely going to be a thing now, cuz I definitely brought light to it, you know, so I hope, I hope I didn't, you know, hurt, offend nobody else.

[Charlamagne tha God]

But damn, I'm going be honest with you. You look in much better shape today than you did in the ring to me. Yeah, I knew you was 317, but I'm just like, you actually look fit. You didn't look sad.

[Guest or Caller]

No, no, I feel like what happened? I got to get like bigger, a bigger cup. Anytime I get like that kind of cup, it like, it pushes my butt. Like I'm, I'm pretty solid, man, like, like I'm 3:17, sloppy guy. But I don't know, man, maybe I had the cheeseburger and put some more muscle on there.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Listen, the commentators was playing you throughout the whole fight because they kept saying, this is such a sloppy fight. And I'm like, what they really wanted to say was this is a fat fight, you know what I mean? And then when the head came off, they was like, oh, you know, he won by a hair, this and that. But you do look in much better shape.

[Guest or Caller]

Yeah, you know what it is? I'm gonna tell you something, man, if you watch my last any Ruiz, you know, I won that fighting, gave me a drawing. I fight in his hometown, and I'm a very fast guy on my feet. I throw a lot of punches, 70, 80 punches around. But the year and a half layoff is what really hurt me in this fight, you know, And I'm fighting a guy that's my height, 280, ex football player, Any of those damn Nigerians, they so damn strong. Like I said, I'm gonna be fine. I get him Bro, he was, he was ready for me. Anybody know they fight big, baby, they come prepared. So, you know, I had about 28, 29 days notice to really get ready for this fight. So I was not 100 my best. So I'm. Thank God I got the win. We back to work. You know, he got a cauliflower, he punched me up in the air a couple times. My ass swollen up, got a. Get that stitched up. So like I said, the main thing was get the win. You know, we got some notoriety back on the map, get back in the gym, back to focus, back to the ground.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Do you feel like you missed your moment? Because you know you were supposed to be the guy who fought Anthony Joshua's first fight here in America, correct? Andy Ruiz ended up winning that fight. You did beat Andy Ruiz. Do you feel like you missed your star making moment?

[Guest or Caller]

I mean, you know what, I beat myself many times over the years cause of that, you know what I mean? And it was so funny. One of my boys, God rest his soul, you know, he was doing 18 years in the joint and he said, bro, you didn't commit no crime. You ain't kill nobody. This is like, it's like you lost, you lost your go make it re up again. You go back to the block and start over. Because what happened is, you know, I beat myself because of social media, other people, but in life, I know that I'm in a better position somebody else. So I got another day to make it, another day to make it happen. I got said, I pray to God, stay grounded and stay focused. And yes, I did. I missed the opportunity, but I'm still alive. You know, I'm trying to say like this. Plenty of superstars and stars that had to be born and restart over 30. You know, Mike went to jail on that situation he had years ago. Muhammad Harley had to go to Canada, stay away from his career for two, three years. And I'm trying to. So I said, you know what? Maybe this is my time to reset, figure things out. You know, I went through a divorce after that. I lost my mansion in Jersey, got rid a couple cars. Like, I went through the gutter. But I really figured out at that time, like, you know, my publicist, like my big sister Alvina, she been with me from the beginning, so. So it's like a lot of people have been riding with me when I had nothing again. They around right now, so we gonna get to the top.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You had tested positive for the performance enhancer, right?

[Guest or Caller]

Man was a. Let me tell you something. A 15 penis pill from the Arab store was. I swear to God, everything I love, bro. Let me tell you something, baby, be doing anything, but I'll be telling you.

[Angela Yee]

That what it was before he got the notice. Shortly he said, I took.

[Charlamagne tha God]

They can't hear you. They can't hear you. You got a gas station pill.

[Guest or Caller]

Yeah, yeah.

[Angela Yee]

Very humble. And I've been with him 16 years. He told them prior to the fight. I got the confirmation. I did take take this. I just want y' all to know I took this. It was like zero point, point, point.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Point, point, point, point, point, point in.

[Angela Yee]

His blood that var came at after with that, which we understand. But he has not lied. He is not a liar, as you can say. He is very humble and kind. He's lovable. He was not a liar. And that is what happened. Least he didn't. At least he said it. I wouldn't have said it. That's embarrassing. But as you can see, this is big, baby. And that's why he's an inspiration, because of his transparency. Thank you.

[Charlamagne tha God]

The hell did you need penis pills for? You was only in your 20s. You 30. Only 30. You were trying to tear something up.

[Guest or Caller]

So let me say something, man. So, you know, we had a couple things in the town and we was running wild. I said, yo, it's right before camp about to start. I said, let me go get one in real quick. Well, about four in really, but you know, when the A spot got the. At the black ant, you know, black and was pretty crazy back then. It's before the honey pack was really, you know.

[Guest or Interviewee]

Pick it up, man.

[Guest or Caller]

I popped tuna rhinoceros on the. On the thing. No, no, that's the Rhino 1000 you talking about.

[Charlamagne tha God]

We talking about the black.

[Guest or Caller]

Give you headaches. See the rhino give you some headaches. Hydrated with that. Yeah, man. What happened, bro? Listen, man, like. Like I said, it's so funny because we sign contracts now with these drug testing companies where we can't bash them and stuff now. So funny they say that. But the thing is now why would you do that? Because they made a lot of mess mess ups before for other fighters in the past and fighters are getting suing them now. You know, I mean, and the main person. Person who started VADA name was Victor Conti and he was the biggest dope doctor in all the MLB health football places. It's a lot of shady gray area with these drug testing companies, right? And let me tell you something, the level of what they. What they find in my system was like 0.00,001 of a nanogram. You know what a nanogram is? It's like a point gram of a gram.

[Guest or Interviewee]

It's just.

[Guest or Caller]

I'm like, well, who the hell can test for this? How can I not see me in my system? We go to a party in New York all the time. We'll hang out. Somebody could touch your drink and you rub your nose. It's a something in your system. So it's a lot. It's not a BS And I lost a lot of money. Cuz.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You're not even supp. You wasn't even supposed to be getting no cheeks before the fight. Before training camp.

[Guest or Caller]

He said before training camp. I know. I ain't going to lie. I go like a week before a fight, man. I, I, I need some, I need some, I need some booty, bro. I ain't going to lie. Pause that sound crazy.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Guest or Caller]

I need, I need, I need.

[Charlamagne tha God]

So I want to go back. You got another question about this? So how did you, how did you get into boxing? Being from Brooklyn, what got you into kickboxing?

[Guest or Caller]

Oh my goodness. Actually was p. To tell the truth.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Salute to Big Baby Miller for joining us this morning.

[Angela Yee]

Man, he's hilarious, man. Man, I like his personality though. He's like, he cool with it.

[Charlamagne tha God]

But that's why I said this moment was good for him because people get to see his personality now, but the next fight they got to see his hands, cuz it wasn't a good showing for him. Correct. On Saturday, he, he looked, he didn't look good in the.

[Angela Yee]

You seen him in better shape than that. That's my first time.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah, I've seen him in better shape than that, but I'm just talking about. I've seen him fight better than that as well. But like you said, he only had three weeks to prepare, so, you know, he need another little.

[Guest or Caller]

What do you say?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Dust the rust off.

[Angela Yee]

I didn't even know that you can have last minutes. Like you can take last minute fights like that. I thought you had to have a certain period of time where you have to spar. I mean, or train first before you.

[Guest or Caller]

Get in the ring.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Okay. Well, he does have an amazing story, man. So you can go watch the full conversation on Netflix. Yeah. All right, well let's get to the latest with Lauren. She gets them from somebody that knows somebody. Details.

[Angela Yee]

I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything.

[Charlamagne tha God]

She be having the latest on.

[Guest or Interviewee]

The.

[Guest or Caller]

Latest with Lauren LaRosa.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Sometimes you have facts, sometimes you have details. Sometimes you Have a little bit. Everything. Well, it's the latest on the Breakfast Club. Talk to me. Brought to you by Top Dog Law. We not doing that. What the hell was that? That was crazy. What the hell? That was crazy.

[Angela Yee]

Mad crazy.

[Charlamagne tha God]

They didn't even warn us about that. Top Dog, we appreciate you advertising on the Breakfast Club, but that was ridiculous. I mean, godamn.

[Angela Yee]

Wake you up in the morning, huh? What the hell, right? All right. Yeah. So I, I don't even want to.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Do this no more. Don't sell anything on this show.

[Angela Yee]

All right, so I know y' all just talked to J. Big Baby Miller just real quick won because we mentioned in the last hour a congratulation congratulations to Shakur Stevenson before we move into. Shut up. Now moving on, in other news, another really quick mention that I wanted to make sure we got in today. So Snoop Dogg yesterday posted sending love to his daughter and so did his son because his daughter lost her baby girl. Yes. So Snoop Dogg's daughter, her name is Corey. She's, she'd been taking us on this journey of her having her baby girl, Cody. And her baby girl was born premature. Really. Cody had came home from the NICU and everything. And then Corey posted that she lost her daughter. She said, Monday, I lost the love of my life, my Cody. And you know, Corey's brother also posted as well too, just in support, like you know, saying, little sis, we got you. So sending them some love. Absolutely.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah, definitely.

[Guest or Interviewee]

Rest in peace.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Sending healing energy to the whole family.

[Angela Yee]

Yes, absolutely. Yeah. Now, in other news, a quick little Grammy thing here. So President Trump. So we've been talking a lot about Trevor Noah's jokes all night long and he threw a joke, another joke because I wrote a few Trump jokes, Trump's way. Let's take a listen to Trevor Noah talk about Greenland.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Song of the year. Congratulations, Billie Eilish. Wow, that is a Grammy that every artist wants almost as much as Trump wants Greenland. Which makes sense, I mean, because Epstein's island is gone. He needs a new one to hang out with Bill Clinton.

[Angela Yee]

So.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Oh, I told you, it's my last year. What are you going to do about it?

[Angela Yee]

I plan with Travis. Listen, President Trump was not too happy about that. So he went to True Social, his platform, and it's a full response. But I just grabbed the part of it where he says that Trevor Noah is a total loser. He better get his facts straight and get them straight fast because he's going to sue him. Trump says that he's going to be sending his lawyers to sue his poor, pathetic, talentless of an mc. He's going to be asking for plenty money. And he says, ask CBS what happened. Ask George what happened. He's talking about that prior lawsuit that he had. And he says he's going to have some fun with Trevor Noah inside.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Well, I would say that's a waste of time, Trump. If he's suing Trevor Noah directly, if he's going to sue Trevor Noah, the Grammys and the network that aired it, who aired that last night, he done shook cbs. Now, how much more can you shake them down? You don't. That's your network now. That's your new Fox News. How much more can he shake them down? But yeah, ain't no money in just suing Trevor by himself. Like, stay suing the networks. Stay suing the IRS and federal institutions. Because clearly Trump got a goal he trying to reach. Man, he must. He got his own GoFundMe going on.

[Angela Yee]

Right? And this is actually the Grammys last year on cbs. And Trevor Noah made it very clear. This is last year doing the show when he was.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah, yeah, but it ain't your last year. Flying trouble. You gonna have some problems at every airport around the country from here on for the at least the next three years.

[Angela Yee]

Oh, man.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I actually love Trev as O. I think he kills it in the first hour. In the first hour, you literally said the man was gay. Mistakenly. First you said, I thought everybody knew Trevor for Don Lemon. That's why that is even more. All y' all be individuals, supposed to stick together. You're right. Okay. You're right, you're right. My bad.

[Angela Yee]

Why don't you think about.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Don't talk about Nicki Minaj. Nicki Minaj been throwing dogs at dawn all week.

[Angela Yee]

Yes. Now real quick, too, I want to mention, and I feel like, you know, because this is Cardi B's first time back on SNL since like 2018, 2019. And I didn't really see a lot of places because I feel like the Grammys kind of took over. But Cardi B was on snl. She was a musical guest. Pete Davidson also had a performance with an SNL or pop up performance as well, too, so I wanted to salute them. And a lot of people pointed out the fact that she chose. She did every time in Bodega Baddie. But people love the Bodega Baddie performance, just, you know, pointing out the fact of the times. And she brought Dominican recording artist El Prado Prodigio. I probably said that wrong on stage as well, too. Which was a big deal as well.

[Charlamagne tha God]

And.

[Angela Yee]

And they talked a bit about ice and one of the skits that Pete Davidson did. I don't have time to play it.

[Charlamagne tha God]

But why not play? I didn't know Pete did SNL this weekend.

[Angela Yee]

Let's take a listen to Pete Davidson talk about ice.

[Charlamagne tha God]

My name is Tom Holman. Now, who could tell me why we're here in Minneapolis? This could be wrong, but army, close. We're here to detain and deport illegal immigrants who have committed crimes. That is literally the first I'm hearing of that. Well, it shouldn't be. Remember, the job ultimately, is about keeping America safe. From what? This could be wrong. But don't. Lemon. That is wrong. Yes, it's criminals. Let's recap. What have we learned today? This could be wrong, but that you hired a bunch of angry, aggressive guys, gave us guns, and didn't train us, so this is maybe what you wanted to happen. Oh, come on, man. Don't start thinking now. Salute to Pete Davidson. Dropping a few months. Pete Davidson. You know, Pete has a original. An original podcast on Netflix. I mean, it's a vodcast. I don't. You know, I don't know why I keep calling a podcast, but it's a vodcast on Netflix. I'm gonna. I'm gonna be on the episode this Friday with them.

[Angela Yee]

So Vodcast is just what, video podcast?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah, this video I got you.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah. And y' all are hanging out in the garage, right?

[Charlamagne tha God]

That's actually Pete's real garage dope.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah, I saw him talk about it on. I think it was Kimmel. He said that he just sets it up in his real garage with his real cigarette butts. And y' all just come over and hang out.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah, the first episode came out last week. I believe Machine Gun Kelly's on the first episode. Episode. And I'm on the next one. Okay, super cool.

[Angela Yee]

Listen, y'. All. Couple alert. Couple alerts. Yes. Comedian Lunel is with Albie Shore. Did y' all know that?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yes, we did. You like two or three?

[Angela Yee]

You said couple alert. I thought you was talking about the last story.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Turn.

[Angela Yee]

Wait. I printed some pictures for y'.

[DJ Envy]

All.

[Angela Yee]

Turn the picture over that I printed. Turn it over. Comedian L. Oh, no, that's not Linnell.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That's Drew Ski with a new slip and slide.

[Angela Yee]

New boot. No, that's his new boot. It's not. I confirmed it last night. I got some MSG sources that Drew Ski is dating. This is Sky Bree. She used to date Jake Paul, and she Used to date Aiden Ross. They're dating? I was told that they were very flirty last night. They courtside. That's an expensive date. So he's obviously. You know what I mean.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Lakers last night.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah, yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Is not gonna like your choices. Dr. Umar is not gonna like choice in women. Okay.

[Angela Yee]

And they were seated right next to Spike Lee too. Oh, that's dope. Listen, just because two or three weeks ago you found out about Lunel and LB Short don't mean it's old.

[Charlamagne tha God]

It was everywhere. It was on Shade Room and all. What are you talking about?

[Angela Yee]

Damn. Well, for the people who didn't you.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Think L and Al show wouldn't be L is with. All right, well, that is the latest with Lawrence. Let's get to the mix. It's all about the Grammys. We got to go.

[Angela Yee]

I got to let the people know that the latest is sponsored by Top.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne the guy we are the Breakfast Club. It's Black History Month, Charlotte. What we doing? Well, you know, every day during Black History Month, my guy, B. Dot, puts out a podcast called I didn't know. Maybe you didn't either. You can go subscribe to it right now on the Black Effect podcast network. But today, B. Dot is exposing the racist science that was baked into modern schools testing for black science students. Check it out.

[Guest or Caller]

The bananas weren't the problem. Welcome back know it alls to another episode of the most anticipated podcast in the month of February on the Black Effect Podcast Network entitled I didn't know. Maybe you didn't either. I'm your host, B. Dot, and we'll kick off today's episode with three of the most useless facts you'll never need. Never. Not a day in life. Your first useless fact. Modern standardized testing comes directly from US Army IQ tests that were created by eugenicists. And those are people that believe certain races were genetically superior. Your second useless fact. It was a black scholar named Horace Mann Bond, and he dismantled those tests in the 1920s by proving that poor white kids in Arkansas. So, oh, they scored low on them. Testing black kids in urban areas. How was that? And your third useless fact. By the 1930s, it was some schools claiming that bananas caused kids to fail intelligence tests. And guess which kids like. Did you know that schools was blaming bananas for low IQ scores in the 1930s? Because I didn't.

[Angela Yee]

I didn't know. Maybe you didn't know. I didn't know. Maybe you didn't know. I didn't know.

[DJ Envy]

Maybe you didn't I didn't know.

[Angela Yee]

I didn't know. I didn't know.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I didn't know.

[Guest or Caller]

So let me tell you a story about the time America looked at black children, watched them struggle on tests designed to confuse the hell out of them.

[Charlamagne tha God]

And said, must be the bananas.

[Guest or Caller]

And I'm not exaggerating. Stay with me. Now, in 1916, a group of psychologists led by Robert M. Yerkes. He was the president of the American Psychological Association. They created the Army Alpha and Beta tests. These tests were specifically designed to measure the intelligence of military recruits and help the army distinguish those of superior mental ability from those who were mentally inferior. Those were their words, not mine. But here's the thing. The test wasn't measuring what they knew. It was measuring what they'd been exposed to. Questions about brand names, tennis scoring, Warren. Luxury items. Things that poor kids and rural kids and black kids had never seen. Hell, if I ask you to spell Christian Louboutin or tell me who won the World cup or the last Masters in order to get a job, you probably gonna be unemployed as hell. But when the black soldier scored lower, the eugenicist said, see, there's proof. Carl Brigham, he was one of Yerk's team members. He wrote a book in 1923 called the Study of American Intelligence. I looked it up. You can buy for 25 bucks on Amazon. In that book, he argues that the decline of American intelligence was due to race mixing and immigration. And he used those army test scores as proof. And then you know what he did? He went on to create the sat. Now, you let that sink in. But there was a black scholar who saw through it all. Horace Mann Bond. And up until this day, the only Horus that I had ever acknowledged played for the Chicago Bulls alongside Michael Jordan and wore grand goggles. He had a twin brother. But this black academic decided to fight pseudoscience with actual science. Horace. He studied them test scores, really studied them test scores. And he found something that the eugenicists never wanted anybody to see. See the poor white kids in Arkansas, they scored lower than the black kids in the urban areas. Then he asked a question that ended careers. All the exponents of intelligence test. Prepare to assert that the white population of Arkansas is inheritedly and racially inferior to the whites of another section of the country. Silence. Yeah, hush mouth. It basically showed how absurd and biased them stupid scientific racial arguments are. Because Horace proved what we already knew. Them tests wasn't measuring intelligence. They was measuring accident, success, resources, exposure, familiarity, segregation and opportunity. And you know what's crazy? Even that goofy man, Carl Brigham, that invented the SAT eventually admitted it. Years later. He called his own work without foundation. But by then, man, the damage had been done. The tests were in the schools. The policies was in place. The assumptions were baked in. Hell, I think I scored a 860 on my SAT. But Horace, man, Bob Bond, oh, he went on to become the first black president of Lincoln University. He helped the NAACP build a legal case for Brown vs Board of Education, which we will discuss this season. And his son, Julian Bond, became the chairman of the naacp. The apple didn't fall too far from the tree. Speaking of apples, the bananas weren't the problem. The snacks weren't the problem. The chill children weren't the problem. The tests were the problem. They always were. And I didn't know. Maybe you didn't either.

[Charlamagne tha God]

It's time to get up out of here, Charlemagne. You got a positive note? Yes, I do, man. And it is a fantastic quote. It's an oldie book. Goodie. But I just want to remind y'. All. I want to remind y' all of this on this Monday morning. Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is mischievous, merely what others think you are. That is from the great coach John Wooden. Apply that to your life today.

[Angela Yee]

We heard that months ago.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You should have. John Wooden said it. Yeah, he's the coach for ucla. He said that years ago. You actually should have heard it decades ago. Breakfast Club.

[Angela Yee]

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