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Lauren LaRosa
This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human. You all know this time of year is my reset season. New energy, new plans, new ways to grow my brand. And if you're trying to start 2026 ahead of the game, like really ahead, now is the time to get moving. For me, Shopify has been a platform that keeps my whole merch business tight. As a creator, as a businesswoman, I need my tools to work hard. And Shopify is like having a chief of staff, a personal assistant, and a co founder all in one. And look, I always tell other women building their own brands, especially small, independent black creators, don't overcomplicate it. Shopify takes the guesswork out of everything. So let's be real. It's time to stop thinking and start doing. And there is no better way to do that than Shopify. Use our link shopify.comb e-n now to start getting serious about building your future.
DJ Envy
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Ayanna Vanzant
Edu.
Charlamagne Tha God
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Jess Hilarious
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Lauren LaRosa
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Charlamagne Tha God
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Mimi Brown
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Jess Hilarious
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Mimi Brown
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Jess Hilarious
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Lauren LaRosa
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Jess Hilarious
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Charlamagne Tha God
Wake you up. Wake you up.
DJ Envy
Wake that ass up.
Charlamagne Tha God
Program your Alarm to Power 105.1 on iHeartradio. Good morning USA. Yo, yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo.
DJ Envy
Jess. Hilarious.
Jess Hilarious
Wake that ass up.
DJ Envy
Charlamagne, the God peace to the planet. It's Thursday.
Charlamagne Tha God
Good morning. How y' all feel out there? I feel blessed. Black and highly favored. Happy to be here another day to serve our beautiful listeners. Good morning.
DJ Envy
Yes, good morning. How you feeling, Jess?
Jess Hilarious
I feel good, man. I went to dinner. Me and my husband went to dinner at Tatiana's last night at the Lincoln Center.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, yeah.
Jess Hilarious
Chef Kwame, man. Chef Dee. Last night, she was.
Ayanna Vanzant
Who?
Jess Hilarious
She was on a. On a what? Is not the turntables.
Charlamagne Tha God
The.
Ayanna Vanzant
The cooking.
DJ Envy
She was cooking.
Lauren LaRosa
She was cooking.
DJ Envy
She was on the stove.
Charlamagne Tha God
Like, D.J.
Jess Hilarious
Such and such on. Yeah, man, it was good. Everything was good. We had the oxtail. You know what's crazy is they throw a Caribbean spin on everything we had. They had cornbread, but the butter got curry in it. Yeah, Like, I never even figured out. Like, I never even figured I would like something like that. But curry and butter.
DJ Envy
Yeah, it's like an African Caribbean infused restaurant. They got vibe. His music. Tatiana's is a restaurant in. In New York City, ladies and gentlemen, that is owned by a brother. He owns. It is. He's a top chef, a Michelin chef. I don't know what they call him.
Jess Hilarious
He got a few restaurants in Miami. He's bringing one to Vegas as well, man. So it's like.
DJ Envy
Yeah, it's very hard to get a reservation, but the food is amazing. It's always Ram Jam packed, but it's dope.
Charlamagne Tha God
Did you take something to go?
Jess Hilarious
I did, I did. I bought the rest of my. Because everything is, like, size.
Charlamagne Tha God
Did you bring some in, everybody?
Jess Hilarious
No, I didn't. Y' all don't eat that type of stuff this early. Y' all.
Charlamagne Tha God
Not still. You should have still bought it in.
DJ Envy
It's dope, though. It's really, really good.
Ayanna Vanzant
I've been here a couple times.
Charlamagne Tha God
You don't get to go.
Jess Hilarious
And it was hard. I know. And it was hard to even order because the music be bumping. And the waitress came up all night. Hi. Can I. You know, her sexy voice. And Ja rules to all my ladies.
Ayanna Vanzant
That be living in.
Jess Hilarious
And I'm like, what do I do? No, no, no. Like, it's like a whole live lore situation. But now I had fun. So shout out to the manager there. Once I. Sabrina, she took care of me.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah. I thought you said Ja Rule had a residency. Residency there. I'm like, that's crazy. That'd.
Jess Hilarious
That would be Wild, but it was good.
Charlamagne Tha God
Listen, how come labels don't care about music no more?
DJ Envy
What you mean?
Charlamagne Tha God
Remember back in the day when you know artists would put out a good album and it would be like an event and you would know? Yeah. Have y' all listened to Daniel C, though? Yes, the one that came out on October.
DJ Envy
I think he might have been a while ago.
Charlamagne Tha God
Christmas? No, I think it was December 24th or December 20th. The son of Serbia.
Jess Hilarious
I bet it's dope, ain't it?
Charlamagne Tha God
What?
Jess Hilarious
It's fire.
Charlamagne Tha God
God. Yeah.
Jess Hilarious
Daniel Season is one of them.
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, no, that was October. Yes, October. But then you got another one too. Man, that. Yo, that dude is incredible.
Jess Hilarious
So what you mean about the labels?
DJ Envy
We ain't know nothing about it.
Charlamagne Tha God
I ain't going be telling nobody. You don't be knowing nothing about this dope ass music that be out if somebody don't tell you about it.
Jess Hilarious
Like you just told me. I didn't even know.
Charlamagne Tha God
But dang it, if somebody don't tell you about it, like, it's like, what do labels even do anymore? What's the point of signing to a label, putting out this good ass music if we not even going to know nothing about it? And radio too. How come radio ain't playing it? We playing any new Danny Season? I don't know.
Ayanna Vanzant
We're not.
DJ Envy
Yeah, but you know.
Charlamagne Tha God
Hey, Sam, aren't you the new music director? The only reason I knew is because.
DJ Envy
When I was listening to it on the way, I was listening to it on the way to work. I'm like, he got some soul food.
Ayanna Vanzant
What?
DJ Envy
Gospel records that. I mean, he got one record. I think it's half a baby with me. I almost went back home and said, you know what, man, let's go for number seven. But like, nah, he got his. He's really, really dope. If you haven't dove into Daniel Caesar, definitely check him out. He's from Canada.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, they say they pushing. They pushing. Have a baby to radio. I don't know why radio not playing that already. Do we have no about to say that we have that? Definitely don't have it.
DJ Envy
Let me.
Charlamagne Tha God
All right, we'll play it before the morning.
DJ Envy
Well, tell them who's joining us. Let me see what we got in here.
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, Ayan lavonzant is joining us this morning.
Jess Hilarious
Not on my watch.
Charlamagne Tha God
Huh? I thought you didn't want her here. I'm like that.
Jess Hilarious
I love Ayan Lana. That's what she be saying.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes, Ayanna Lavon will be here. She's Got a new show called the Inside Fix. And the thing that's dope about this show, if you used to watch Ayanna Fix My Life, it's her revisiting a lot of those people whose lives she attempted to fix. And she has a new book, which I love, called Spiritual Hygiene, A Practical Path for Clean Living, Inner Authority, and Divine Freedom. So Ayan L being here this morning, cutting up with us.
DJ Envy
All right, well, let's get the show cracking. We got front page news. Let's start the show off with Daniel Caesar. We found it. Have a baby.
Charlamagne Tha God
Hey, don't look me in the eye.
DJ Envy
Do not look me in the eye.
Charlamagne Tha God
I have no plans to. All right.
DJ Envy
It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yo, the ill thing about this song is called have. When you look at it on the album, it says have a baby. And then in parentheses it says with me. Yes. In fact, he had to scratch to this girl with me. How many people is she having raw sex with? Like, have a baby with me.
DJ Envy
I'm the person.
Charlamagne Tha God
Why you got to stress that part?
DJ Envy
Morning, everybody. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page news. What's up, Mimi?
Ayanna Vanzant
Good morning.
Mimi Brown
MV Josh Charlemagne. How y' all doing this?
Charlamagne Tha God
Mimi Brown.
Ayanna Vanzant
Good.
Mimi Brown
Good morning. So we begin this morning with overnight unrest in Minnesota following another shooting involving a federal law enforcement. This is the second shooting in just one week. So officials say a man was shot in the leg by a federal officer Wednesday night in North Minneapol after what the Department of Homeland Security described as a violent struggle during an attempted arrest. Now, DHS officials, they say federal agents were conducting a targeted traffic stop just before 7pm involving a man they say was in the country illegally. A DHS says the man fled his vehicle, crashed into a parked car, and then ran away on foot. Now, as word of the shooting spread, hundreds of protesters, they gathered near the scene. And during a late night press conference, officials, they addressed the city calling for calm. Let's listen to Minneapolis Police Chief Brian o'. Hara.
Ayanna Vanzant
Preliminary information indicates that there was a.
Charlamagne Tha God
Struggle with a federal agent in front of the resident. During the struggle, the federal agent discharged his weapon, striking one adult male. The adult male then retreated inside of.
Ayanna Vanzant
The residence, where he remained inside and.
Charlamagne Tha God
Refused to come out.
Ayanna Vanzant
Eventually, federal agents made entry into the residence and the individual is brought to.
Charlamagne Tha God
An ambulance where he has been transported to the hospital. There's a crowd gathered in the area. They have thrown fireworks at police officers.
Ayanna Vanzant
And at multiple times gas has been deployed.
Charlamagne Tha God
Police are attempting to disperse this unlawful assembly at this time, I urge anyone that is at the scene to leave immediately.
Mimi Brown
The dhs, they also say two other people then came out of a nearby apartment. They joined in the attack using a snow shovel and a broom handle. And during that shovel, or excuse me, during that struggle, the officer fired what DHS is calling defensive shots, hitting the original suspect in the leg. Two people are now in custody. And of course, this all comes just one week after a federal immigration agent shot and killed Renee Good. In that same press conference last night, Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey, he called for an end to the chaos. Let's listen to that.
Charlamagne Tha God
This is not sustainable. Our officers, they are working tirelessly again. We have about 600 officers. There's about 3,000 ICE agents in border control. We need our officers responding to the basic day to day 911 calls. We don't have the capacity to both deal with that. And all of this conduct that we're seeing from ICE on the daily basis. American citizens are getting picked up off the street by people in masks. That's not the way things should be conducted in any city in America. That's not who we are. That's not America. So I'm calling for peace. Everybody has a role in achieving that peace.
Mimi Brown
Yeah. So as of this morning, investigations into the shooting, they are ongoing. And those protests, they remain fluid.
Charlamagne Tha God
That was the police chief, right, Mimi?
Mimi Brown
Yeah, the first one was the police chief. The last one was the mayor. Minneapolis J.
Charlamagne Tha God
Well, he's right. You know, it's not sustainable on so many levels. And, you know, as you said, maybe, you know, what makes the situation even worse is the fact that Renee Good just got shot and killed. She was an American citizen. So everybody feels like they are in danger of ice. So when they see another shooting so soon after Renee, they just feel like ICE is out to kill everybody and all of this is a powder keg waiting to blow. How far does ICE and the federal government think they can push people before people push back? Like ICE has a job to do. We understand that. But you can do your job without terrorizing people. Because I'm telling you, it's only a matter of time before the American people start pushing back.
DJ Envy
I don't think, I don't know if you remember, but that's what the guy called in and said yesterday. He said, enough's enough. Like people are going to get to the point where it's like, no, you're not going to kick down my door, because if you do, I'm going to have a surprise for you. And people are going to start fighting back.
Charlamagne Tha God
Like you said, it's not going to be a surprise. Like what's going to happen when an American citizen, hopefully not. But what's going probably to happen when they shoot back at an ICE agent? And then that's when all hell is going to really break loose. Because you have a federal government who doesn't care what ICE does to people in this country, but they will care what people in this country do to ice. But I just wonder how far does ICE in the federal government think they can push people before they push back?
Mimi Brown
Part of, part of what people are saying is that they want, they think ICE is exactly what the Trump administration wants. They want people to push back on ice. They want the chaos in the street. You know, this is what they're, they're aiming for.
Jess Hilarious
So why it makes no sense.
DJ Envy
None at all.
Mimi Brown
Right. Don't know. I mean, really quickly, the State Department is putting the brakes on immigrant visas for people from 75 countries. That's starting next week. The Trump administration says the pause is about money, specifically concerns that some new immigrants could rely on public assistance in the future. So that list is long. It's global. It includes countries across Africa, Asia, Europe, and the Caribbean. Places like Nigeria, Ghana, Haiti, Jamaica, Brazil is on the list, Bahamas, Belize, among many, many others. Now, in a statement, the U.S. state Department said immigrants from these countries, they take welfare at what it calls unacceptable rates. And this will only affect people who move permanently to the, to the US not tourists. So visitors and business visas, they are still being processed. This freeze, it is set to begin January 21st. It will stay in place indefinitely until the administration says it is confident that new immigrants will not rely on public benefits.
Charlamagne Tha God
Well, how will Republicans find wives if they keep all, all those people out? All of their wives come from other countries. Like, what's going on here.
Jess Hilarious
Yeah.
Mimi Brown
Well, we shall see.
Jess Hilarious
All right, y'.
Charlamagne Tha God
All.
Mimi Brown
Well, coming up at 7, if you lost phone service yesterday, there's some new information, including what the company says comes next for customers. We'll break it down in the next hour.
DJ Envy
Yeah, people who have. Verizon was sick yesterday, couldn't make any phone calls. Nothing.
Jess Hilarious
That's the crazy thing. One of my phones is Verizon, but that's the business phone. I don't usually be on it. I had no idea.
DJ Envy
Yeah, Now I was out. People pissed off.
Jess Hilarious
Crazy.
DJ Envy
Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, phone lines are wide open. Call us up. Right now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Charlamagne Tha God
It's a new day. This is your time to get it off your chest. Wake, wake up. Whether you're mad or blessed it's time.
DJ Envy
To get up and get something call up now, 800-58-5.
Charlamagne Tha God
1051.
DJ Envy
We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this?
Charlamagne Tha God
Envy. Envy.
Ayanna Vanzant
Draft, Draft.
Jess Hilarious
Hey, baby.
DJ Envy
That means J. Cole came out with a new record.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes, sir.
Caller/Guest
I got one thing to say to you, Charlemagne.
Charlamagne Tha God
What you got to say to me? The real is back.
Caller/Guest
The bill is back. Flow Banana. Charlemagne here. Field is back. Cole is coming, baby. Cole is on the way. The fall off. But ain't no fall off for him.
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay. I'm gonna be out February. I think it's gonna be a double license. It's a double album, right? Yeah, yeah, it's a double album.
Jess Hilarious
I know that's right.
Charlamagne Tha God
Don't you get too excited now, Charlemagne.
Caller/Guest
Don't get too excited now.
Charlamagne Tha God
I'm not.
Caller/Guest
Don't get too excited.
Charlamagne Tha God
I'm not.
DJ Envy
You should be, man. You're not excited to hear what Cole.
Charlamagne Tha God
Gonna say and what I'm not happy about. I'm not. Excited is a strong word. I'm definitely going to tune in. I'm excited for J. Cole. I know your booty. You can't wait. But I told y'. All, I am curious because I'm interested to see what approach J. Cole is going to take. Because, you know, for the last few years, J. Cole has been saying he's the numero uno and he's number one. But then. But then we all saw him back out of the rap battle.
DJ Envy
That's a good conversation. Could he still be number one if he backed out the rap battle?
Charlamagne Tha God
No, I'm tell you, I'm interested to see what approach he takes on the album. I thought the song you put out yesterday. Yes. I'm a three to Charlemagne. I'm giving out headlock. I'm giving out headlock. Don't be the first one to catch one.
Jess Hilarious
I know that's right.
Charlamagne Tha God
Y' all putting a lot of pressure on Cole.
Jess Hilarious
Listen, Big co, what's up?
Charlamagne Tha God
Y' all putting a lot of pressure on his back, though, baby.
DJ Envy
All right, trap.
Caller/Guest
LeBron James is back, baby.
Charlamagne Tha God
Goodbye, LeBron. Whatever. Hello.
Caller/Guest
This is Shonda.
DJ Envy
Hey, Shonda.
Charlamagne Tha God
Good morning.
DJ Envy
Get off your chest, Shonda.
Caller/Guest
Good. You know, what I gotta say is, to people who want to get on the airplane, get on there, sit down, buckle your seat belt and shut the hell up. We flight attendants do not get paid when that door is Open. And you want to get on and ask questions. Can you hear me with my luggage? Did I help you pack that? No, I did not. Get down and shut the hell up.
DJ Envy
Ma', am.
Caller/Guest
Don't ask me no question.
DJ Envy
Can I just have a soda in my headphones, please, ma'?
Ayanna Vanzant
Am?
Jess Hilarious
Yo, sure, ma'.
Lauren LaRosa
Am.
DJ Envy
Can I have some extra cookies or nuts, please, ma'?
Jess Hilarious
Am?
DJ Envy
That's it.
Caller/Guest
No, you can't have anything. Sit down, put your seat belt on, and shut the hell up.
Charlamagne Tha God
Can I ask you a question? Like, seriously, can I ask you a question? How long you been working for Spirit?
Jess Hilarious
Hey, yo, I know.
Caller/Guest
I work for America, and I've been there for seven years. And I am so sick of entitled as people that think we are nothing but waiters in the sky. If that's the case, why did I go to training for all of those weeks? And if we're just waiters in the sky, when your ass choke, I'm gonna sit there and watch you. Because waiters don't do cps.
Jess Hilarious
None of that.
Charlamagne Tha God
Cpr.
Lauren LaRosa
Cpr.
Caller/Guest
None of that. We don't do none of that.
Charlamagne Tha God
Listen. No, I agree with you. I don't think nobody should have a sense of entitlement. But if I do pay for a ticket, I do expect a certain service on the plane, right? Because that's what y' all job is.
Caller/Guest
What service do you expect?
Charlamagne Tha God
Just simple stuff like if I want some headphones, if I want some water, that's like, can I have a seatbelt?
Caller/Guest
When we come around, we will give that to you. But we don't need you asking us for that. As soon as you get on. Let me tell you something. Them doors are open. We are working for free. When we close some doors, you can ask us all the questions you want. Until then, sit down, put your seatbelt on, and shut the hell up.
Charlamagne Tha God
She is making a point, though, because y' all do have a set time when y' all start bringing out the snacks in the water and everything like that.
Caller/Guest
That's true. So just wait and be patient.
DJ Envy
Ma', am, can I have a seatbelt?
Caller/Guest
You ain't that damn hungry.
DJ Envy
Can I have a seat belt extender, ma'? Am? Cause my seat belt is kind of tight. Can I have a seatbelt extender?
Caller/Guest
Absolutely not.
Charlamagne Tha God
Can I hear you talk about one other thing? How do you feel about fat people on the plane?
Jess Hilarious
Oh, my God.
Caller/Guest
I don't have no problem with it. Just don't make the person sitting next to you too uncomfortable. That's my only thing.
Jess Hilarious
Because then they Gotta call you and get on your nerves, man.
Charlamagne Tha God
You ever seen somebody walk on a plane that's so big that you go KO way thing?
Caller/Guest
Those. Those very same people will get on the plane knowing they need an A seat bell extension and won't even ask for it. They will wait till we come by and then say, can I have an extension? You knew your big ass needed it when you got on there. Why you didn't ask these things at the door?
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes, ma'. Am.
Jess Hilarious
Because you said don't ask you nothing.
DJ Envy
Somebody made a mess in the bathroom. Can you clean it up, please?
Caller/Guest
Oh, no, we don't do that. They got cleaners for that.
DJ Envy
No, but they say if somebody make a mess, you tell a flight attendant they'll take care of it throughout the flight. They say that.
Charlamagne Tha God
I hope you.
Caller/Guest
I'm not doing. Let me. I don't know what y' all done heard, but I'm not doing any of that. Sit down, shut up. Like, seriously, don't ask no question.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes, ma'. Am. Well, I hope today is better than yesterday. Yeah, I hope so, too.
Caller/Guest
I hope so, too. Cause I'm sick of these people.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes, ma'.
Lauren LaRosa
Am.
Charlamagne Tha God
Have a great day.
DJ Envy
Thank you, ma'. Am. Have a nice day.
Ayanna Vanzant
Ma', am.
DJ Envy
Can you help me get my bag down?
Caller/Guest
Absolutely not. I didn't pack that. You packed it yourself.
Charlamagne Tha God
You know, Lauren used to. Have a good day. You know, Lauren used to be a flight attendant.
Lauren LaRosa
That's not what he said about cleaning the bathroom. I looked at him like that.
Jess Hilarious
Like, that's what they say.
DJ Envy
They say if somebody messes the bathroom, tell a flight attendant. They clean it up during the flight.
Jess Hilarious
Were you ever that upset? Were you ever that upset?
Lauren LaRosa
No, I wasn't.
Jess Hilarious
Okay.
Lauren LaRosa
Because I didn't allow myself to be. But you could be. She must be working a Florida leg. No shade, but they test you.
Charlamagne Tha God
I seem very chatty to be a flight attendant. Like, I don't like the flight attendants that like to talk.
Lauren LaRosa
You know what I mean?
Jess Hilarious
Not on a plane.
Lauren LaRosa
Not on a plane after you've been worked. Because when you knew you work, they work you like a dog. You don't want to talk about nothing. Do you want your drink? If you don't, that's fine. Welcome. You brought your bag. I hope you put it up. Up. Sit down. Let's have a good flight. I'll see y'.
Charlamagne Tha God
All.
Jess Hilarious
Help him put it up. You'll help him put the bag up?
Lauren LaRosa
You put your bag up. You better hope we never on a flight together. I'm throwing Your bags all over the place.
Charlamagne Tha God
That's crazy.
DJ Envy
Get it off your chest. 800. 5, 8, 5, 10, 5, 1. We got the latest Lauren coming up.
Ayanna Vanzant
What we talking about?
Lauren LaRosa
Good morning. Yes, we do. We're gonna talk about J. Cole. Oh, the fall off is here. A little intro to the fall off is here. So it's actually here now. I know it's been teased for some years. We gonna get into the fall off. And, you know, Charlamagne. Don't. Don't be hating this morning.
Charlamagne Tha God
I don't have no.
Jess Hilarious
I just want to know why. I don't know.
Lauren LaRosa
And there's a hyphen in it. Like, I don't know why that's there. We're gonna play the music, but, you know, I just want us to enjoy the moment, and I'm excited about it.
Charlamagne Tha God
Y' all have created this narrative that does not exist. I do not hate J. Cole. J. Cole's from the Carolinas. I root for J. Cole, but I don't know why you all don't like honest.
DJ Envy
Because he sound like it.
Ayanna Vanzant
But thank you.
Lauren LaRosa
You know what? We'll talk about when we come back. Cause you a demon.
DJ Envy
All right, ladies, with Lauren's, up next is the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Lauren LaRosa
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DJ Envy
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Charlamagne Tha God
Latest with Lauren Olopa on the Breakfast Club. LL Cool Baby Talk Talk to me.
Lauren LaRosa
So yesterday the Miami Gardens Police Department announced that Gervonte Tank Davis there was an arrest warrant for him in relation to a domestic violence incident. So according to the Miami PD this incident went down. I'm sorry, Miami Gardens PD this incident incident went down on October 27th, but the victim, alleged victim reported on October 29th. They had a press conference yesterday. I have a brief clip from it let's take a listen.
Charlamagne Tha God
Oct. 29, 2025, 2:15pm the victim entered the Miami Gardens Police Department accompanied by her attorney, to report an incident that occurred on October 27, 2025. According to the victim's statement, at approximately 4:15am while working, the victim was approached by Mr. Davis. The victim reported that Mr. Davis grabbed her by her back of her head, pulling her by her hair with one hand and by her throat with the other. He forcefully escorted her down a stairway and toward the parking garage. Upon reaching the parking garage, the Victim reported that Mr. Davis released her, at which point she was able to run towards her co workers for safety. The victim reported sustaining minor injuries, including visible bruising to her left arm, and she sought medical attention. As a result of the diligent and hard work of our special Victims unit, an arrest warrant has been issued for Gervonta Bryant Davis on the following charges. Battery, false imprisonment and attempted kidnapping. Is this the same alleged situation that kept him out of the Jake Paul fight?
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah. So back in November, we told you guys here at the Breakfast Club that, that once the Netflix Jake Paul fight on Netflix, the Jake Paul Tank fight on Netflix was canceled, that there were a few reasons that we had heard from a source that this, this fight wasn't happening. On top of just performance stuff and promotion stuff. One of the things that we had heard was that there was this incident that took place because there was some conversation about an incident that took place at a gentleman's club called Miss Tootsies in Miami.
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, yes, sir.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah. And we had been told at that time that there was video. So the police say that they use that video to corroborate the things that the victims.
DJ Envy
Oh, so they have it on video and they have the video.
Lauren LaRosa
I told you guys that in novemb that there was video, but the police say that they have it and that's what they've used to whatever. Whatever this victim claimed when. Alleged victim claimed when she went into the police department. They use that to say, okay, we saw. We see it now. Like she's saying it happened. We see it. So now there's a restaurant. I did reach out to the rep that I have for Javante Tank Davis, but no comment at this time. So, yeah, yeah, we'll keep you guys updated on that. But moving on to some other things. I'm so excited. It J. Cole is finally back. Yes. So J. Cole yesterday dropped a trailer for the Fall off, which is supposed to be his final album before he decides to step away from a music but he also dropped a song that is going to be on the project. The song is called disc two, track two, which lets you know that, I guess that this is going to be a double sided situation, let's say double album. Well, yeah. You know how they dropped two? It's not really two sides because ain't nobody buying a physical album. But you know what I'm talking about. Like, let's get to the. Let's get two song two. I mean, this two, track two.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah. Record is cool. J. Cole can rap. We know that now. So this project seen that concept before, though, with. With Nas Rewind.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah. And Jcole has talked about how Nas is such a big inspiration for him. But yeah, so this project is going to drop February 6, according to JCOLE. So hopefully, you know, that is where he sticks with it. But the trailer that he dropped before he dropped his actual song was also interesting too, because a lot of people, people don't think he's actually going to retire. They think that he's, you know, doing what the rappers do. I'm retiring, but I don't now. The trailer talks about things coming to.
Jess Hilarious
An end and it.
Lauren LaRosa
It's narrating him getting his car washed, eating dinner, just going throughout his everyday life. Let's take a listen.
Ayanna Vanzant
Everything is supposed to go away eventually.
Charlamagne Tha God
You see this, especially in like show business with famous actors or like musicians. And it's like, oh, this guy used to be famous and then he fell off. What happened? And they want to point to they did this and this and they made some sort of mistake instead of thinking that, look, it's kind of crazy they got famous in the first place. So few people reach that level. That.
DJ Envy
Yes, of course it's not going to.
Charlamagne Tha God
Last forever because somebody else has to take that spot. And that's how show business has been since forever. But no, they always want to say, oh, that guy fell off. They want to look down on him for just going through the natural cycle of rising and falling. I'm shocked. J. Cole got a car. Was it electric?
DJ Envy
It could have been electric. It was a Lambo.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, okay. It was a Lambo. Got a Lambo. Yeah.
Jess Hilarious
What you mean and a bike?
Charlamagne Tha God
He's gonna scratch me as a Lambo again. Any type of person. I never see him in the car.
DJ Envy
Yeah, it could be electric. It could be.
Jess Hilarious
That don't mean he don't got one. Yo, yo.
Charlamagne Tha God
Everything with a shot, with your ball. That was a shot.
DJ Envy
That was a shot.
Lauren LaRosa
But he was washing his own car, though, you know, so.
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay.
Ayanna Vanzant
Yeah.
Lauren LaRosa
That's J. Cole.
Charlamagne Tha God
Ish. I know what you're trying to get. There you go.
Mimi Brown
Yeah.
Lauren LaRosa
Okay, so hopefully we get that. Y' all think it's gonna actually come out on the.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes, absolutely.
DJ Envy
Yes. Okay.
Jess Hilarious
Does he have a lot about a release date?
Charlamagne Tha God
No.
Lauren LaRosa
He's teased some time periods for this project.
DJ Envy
I think he's coming out on February 6th, and I think I can't wait to hear this album. I think he's gonna have a lot of music, a lot to talk about, a lot to discuss. And if he retires, I mean, he is one of the best that. That has done it, but. But I don't think he is.
Charlamagne Tha God
There's no rapper has ever retired.
Lauren LaRosa
I don't think so either, cuz. What. What is he going to do when he retires?
Ayanna Vanzant
Like.
Charlamagne Tha God
Relax with his family?
DJ Envy
That's what that clip said. That's what that clip said. He doesn't have to do anything. That doesn't.
Charlamagne Tha God
He's filthy rich.
DJ Envy
He's filthy rich. He could be a father.
Lauren LaRosa
J. Cole is a real creative and a real artist. That passion and that fire never dies like you always are going to want to.
Charlamagne Tha God
You can take that same energy to washing cars. You can open up a whole bunch of car washes.
DJ Envy
And I am not listening to him. He's was responsible for Jid. He still was responsible for Earth Gang and Ari Lennox. So he can still do that part of it.
Charlamagne Tha God
A label executive, though, even though he had great artists.
Lauren LaRosa
I had a couple clips of you throwing slick shots. I don't even gotta play them because.
Charlamagne Tha God
You'Re doing it right now. And it's disrespectful that y' all keep saying that. I root for J. Cole because he's from North Carolina, but y' all act like y' all can't critique artists. I am very curious to hear what approach J. Cole takes on the album. I'm interested to see where he's at. But I told y', all the last few years before the fall off, he was talking that talk. He was talking like he wanted war. When war came, he decided he didn't want to smoke, which I respect. I have no problem with him backing out the rap battle, but you can't still act like you can cut him to be the number one guy when you had a chance to directly engage. And you said, nah, but maybe he.
DJ Envy
Will explain it in this music.
Charlamagne Tha God
You don't even got to do that. He did it already. Remember, he put the record out, after he put the record out, after he backed out. I'M just interested to see what approach he takes on this project because he's clearly not competing to be number one. That's not what he cares.
Lauren LaRosa
But he says if you listen back to. And we're going to play.
Charlamagne Tha God
Because he's rapping backwards.
Lauren LaRosa
No, listen, just be quiet.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes, I do.
Lauren LaRosa
What I'm about to say in the.
Charlamagne Tha God
Song, he talks about still wanting to be the number one guy, but he's rapping backwards. He's rapping about. He's talking about his career from backwards.
Lauren LaRosa
Why was I going to say that?
Charlamagne Tha God
Because that's how he felt in that moment.
DJ Envy
Let's get the record on. Let's get the record on.
Lauren LaRosa
I didn't even listen to it in reverse.
DJ Envy
Then let's get the record on. Thank you. That's the latest with Lauren.
Lauren LaRosa
It is.
Charlamagne Tha God
We're going.
Lauren LaRosa
Yes, we're going to play it.
DJ Envy
We got front page news next. We going to get into the record. It's the Breakfast Club.
Charlamagne Tha God
Good morning.
Lauren LaRosa
Just like. Let's get out.
DJ Envy
That was new J. Cole. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious Charlamagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page news. What's up, Mimi?
Jess Hilarious
Mimi, I just want to say, girl, you giving Nanny friends today? Okay. Really, really good.
Ayanna Vanzant
Yes.
Charlamagne Tha God
Who is Nanny Friends?
Jess Hilarious
You remember Fran Drescher, the nanny from back in the day?
Charlamagne Tha God
Got you. Got you.
Jess Hilarious
Yes.
Ayanna Vanzant
That's.
Charlamagne Tha God
Ain't nobody would hire Mimi as no nanny. Ain't no woman. Ain't no woman bringing no nanny that look like that in the house unless she.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah, yeah.
Ayanna Vanzant
You know.
Jess Hilarious
You right. You right.
Ayanna Vanzant
Right.
Charlamagne Tha God
All right, y'.
Ayanna Vanzant
All.
Mimi Brown
There is a small but important development in New York City's massive nurses strike this morning. So after three days of no movement, New York Presbyterian said it will sit down with the nurses union later today. Talks are scheduled for 5pm marking the first sign of progress since the strike began. Now, this comes as nearly 15,000 nurses remain on the picket lines at New York Presbyterian, Mount Fior and Mount Sinai.
Jess Hilarious
Right.
Mimi Brown
They have not agreed to return to the.
Charlamagne Tha God
The.
Mimi Brown
To the bargaining table. So the nurses, though they say their demands are simple, safer staffing levels, health care, real protection from violence on the job. Many say that overcrowding has become dangerous with patients being treated in hallways instead of beds, and nurses stretch too thin to safely care for them. And so though hospital leaders out there pushing back, saying the care is continuing and it's improving. And they say that they've made lots of changes in including shorter ER times. But another Major flashpoint is union discipline. Nurses at Mount Sinai say that some of the workers were written up and others have been fired for organizing ahead of the strike. Let's listen to what some of the nurses had to say earlier this week over the weekend.
Lauren LaRosa
We were unfairly disciplined by management who.
Mimi Brown
Falsely accused us of interfering with the.
Lauren LaRosa
Work of their expensive temporary travel nurse brought to replace us and who were coerced. We were coerced in training. We will not be bullied by Mount Sinai and will do everything we can to contest our unjust firings. But Mount Sinai must be held accountable. They cannot continue to discipline and punish nurses who speak out about patient safety and nurse safety.
Mimi Brown
Well, the hospital, they are denying any union busting, saying those nurses were disciplined for trying to sabotage the traveling nurses from doing their job. And as this strike continues, union leaders are now advising nurses to prepare to file for unemployment benefits if this stretches beyond two weeks.
Charlamagne Tha God
So the crazy thing about the nurse situation is the nurse that caught up here this morning and said that they trying to take the nurses health care. Like what type of country do we live in when nurses who care for our health don't have health care? That's insanity.
Jess Hilarious
Absolutely.
Mimi Brown
So we will continue to watch that. And if you are a Verizon customer and your phone stopped working yesterday, the company says service is fully back on. Did that affect any of you guys yesterday?
Ayanna Vanzant
No.
Jess Hilarious
And I have a Verizon phone.
DJ Envy
It affected people I knew but. But not me personally.
Charlamagne Tha God
Mine was cool.
DJ Envy
They couldn't use the phone. They couldn't text. They couldn't do a lot of things. Like they were out of commission. Yeah.
Mimi Brown
They said it lasted for an entire 10 hours. It's now.
Jess Hilarious
Damn.
Mimi Brown
Yes. 10 hours from. So like from noon yesterday to about 10pm Y. They said that most customers that your phone should be working, if not just restart it to fully reconnect. It said that most people said that they weren't even allowed to call 91 1.
Jess Hilarious
Oh, hell no.
Mimi Brown
Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
Jess Hilarious
What happened though? What was it?
Mimi Brown
Well, they are not exactly saying. They were saying that most phones said SOS Yeah, they just said the. The disruption, sorry y', all, it affected customers and you will receive a credit. But in order to receive that credit, Verizon said they will reach out to you personally or to your account. They'll send a text or an email or some kind of way to let you know what that may look like. And again, they have not said what it was. But a lot of people, like you said, envy on social media. They are frustrated A Lot of people said they are leaving. Verizon ain't going nowhere.
Jess Hilarious
People always say that.
Charlamagne Tha God
Y' all ever seen that movie Leave the World Behind? I think Obama's produced it. And, you know, that was one of the three step theories of destabilizing a nation. You know, it was. It was isolation, synchronized chaos in civil war. And it shows how cyber terrorism can destabilize a nation by shutting down its technology. Because we're so dependent on technology, nobody could communicate. Nobody can make no call. Like, all national communication shut down in the movie. The Internet, televised media, phone, satellites, everything.
DJ Envy
It's very scary because if you think about it, you got a family with phones, and that's how y' all could connect, right? So even if you have kids, like, yesterday, my daughter went on a. A field trip.
Charlamagne Tha God
Trip.
DJ Envy
And I had to. She had to call me to see what time I had to pick her up. But if she would have had Verizon.
Jess Hilarious
I would have been able to, you know what I mean, for a long time. They saying 10 hours. But to go back, what you said about the movie, Ethan Hawke's character in the movie said he was screaming and shouting to Kevin Bacon, and he was like, yo, I'm a man with no gps. I don't know what to do with my life.
Lauren LaRosa
What?
Jess Hilarious
Like, that was a line in the movie. But it goes to show you how much we rely on technology.
Charlamagne Tha God
They didn't grow up like us. We grew up off maps, and we grew up off, you know, so I could describe directions.
DJ Envy
Make it right at McDonald's.
Charlamagne Tha God
That's right. There's gonna be a red mailbox right there. And then when you get to that red mailbox, it's gonna be a sign of a chicken. Then you make the leopard the sign of the chicken. And I'm right there on the corner.
Jess Hilarious
Sure.
Ayanna Vanzant
Yeah.
Mimi Brown
I would be lost without gps. Okay, so I'm with you on that one, Jess.
Charlamagne Tha God
I don't know.
Mimi Brown
You know, I barely know my left or my right, so there's that.
Jess Hilarious
Tammy.
Mimi Brown
Me, I'm just, you know, being honest. All right, and so before we go, a moment to honor the greatest. So Muhammad Ali, he is getting a forever stamp, which are out today. The United States Postal Service, they are officially honoring Ali's life and his legacy. USPS says it has printed 22 million stamps, and once they're gone, they're gone. They will not be reissued. And because they're forever stamps, they'll always be valid. So you may want to grab yours sooner than later.
Charlamagne Tha God
Did Donald Trump know About this?
Mimi Brown
That is a good question. This is probably years in the making before you know.
Charlamagne Tha God
But so was The Harriet Tubman 20. What happened to that?
Mimi Brown
What did happen to the Harriet Tubman 20?
Ayanna Vanzant
But.
Mimi Brown
But it's being released today on Martin Luther King's birthday. They said that is intentional. So, yes, we want to support that. And before we end, I just want to say happy Founders Day to my sority, the lovely ladies of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority Incorporated.
DJ Envy
That's right.
Jess Hilarious
Yes. Girl, you looking good. That's why you got on the cut list.
Mimi Brown
That is. Why would you call me a Franny the nanny?
Jess Hilarious
Yeah.
Lauren LaRosa
Nanny friend.
Jess Hilarious
Yes. You look like Fran Drescher.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes. Why ain't do y' all mating call? Mimi, what's the call y' all be doing?
DJ Envy
Don't you do it, Charlotte.
Mimi Brown
Don't. I don't Charlotte? No.
Charlamagne Tha God
But no, y' all gotta call. Don't they gotta call?
Ayanna Vanzant
What is it?
Charlamagne Tha God
No, I can't do it.
Jess Hilarious
What?
DJ Envy
Call this a Sing Sexy Red song.
Charlamagne Tha God
Sexy Red? Yeah. No, I'm not doing that. Do it, Mimi. Y', all, you gotta do your call.
DJ Envy
Pinkies in the air, Mimi.
Mimi Brown
Pinkies in the air.
Charlamagne Tha God
All right.
Mimi Brown
All my lovely ladies.
DJ Envy
There you go.
Mimi Brown
Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority Incorporated.
Ayanna Vanzant
All right.
Mimi Brown
All right, y'.
Jess Hilarious
All.
Mimi Brown
Well, that is your front page news. I'm Mimi Brown. Follow me at Mimi Brown tv. For more stories, follow the Black Information Network, Download the free iHeartRadio app or visit bin news.com.
DJ Envy
Thank you, Mimi.
Jess Hilarious
Thank you, Mimi.
Lauren LaRosa
Thank you.
DJ Envy
Now when we come back, Ayanna Von Zant will be joining us. She has a new show on OWN and a new book we're gonna talk to when we come back. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. Is DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne the guy. We are the breakfast club. Lauren LaRosa is here as well belt. And we got a special guest in the building, the legend, Ayanla Vanzan. Welcome back.
Ayanna Vanzant
How are you feeling? I am blessed.
Charlamagne Tha God
How are you?
DJ Envy
I'm doing amazing.
Ayanna Vanzant
All of this young energy, it just.
DJ Envy
I'll take on. I'll take the young.
Charlamagne Tha God
I was born in 1978. If I'm young to you. Thank you.
Ayanna Vanzant
78. I got a bra that I bought in 78.
Charlamagne Tha God
You never stop working. No, no. You're here today because you got a new show, the Inside Fix. But you just put out a book, Spiritual Hygiene in December. Why can't you ever keep still?
Ayanna Vanzant
Well, because I don't want to grow roots. I want to grow roots. You know, roots are not. Not helpful. Yeah, it's good. You know, don't we need it?
Charlamagne Tha God
Absolutely.
Ayanna Vanzant
We need the work, so we need the energy. So I'm out here. Yeah, I'm out here. I could be on the pole. But this is so much more beneficial.
DJ Envy
First episode. Hilarious. So for people that don't know, it's. It's almost like, where are they now?
Ayanna Vanzant
Where are we now? Not them.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
DJ Envy
Where. Yes.
Ayanna Vanzant
Where are we now?
DJ Envy
To break down the show.
Jess Hilarious
That's.
Ayanna Vanzant
Yeah. What I did was we went back into some of our highest rated shows.
DJ Envy
With the most memes.
Ayanna Vanzant
Huh?
DJ Envy
With the most.
Ayanna Vanzant
I know. I'm a meme machine. And we looked at those shows for issues that are going on today. Because the way we deal with stuff today is very different than we did 12 years ago. 12 years ago, these six women had a problem and they pulled their. Their copy down off the Internet. Today, you know, that would be ig it f Facebook, they would be canceled. And so how we deal with it today. But the issue of breakdown among women is just as prevalent today as it was back then. So how do we deal with that? How do we address that? So that's what we're doing. We're going back into the shows and looking at how to take those issues and apply them.
DJ Envy
I love how you did it.
Charlamagne Tha God
Why did you find that more appealing than revisiting? I mean, why did you decide to revisit older stories instead of helping new families?
Ayanna Vanzant
Because I'm old.
Charlamagne Tha God
You seasoned. You're not old. You're seasoned.
Ayanna Vanzant
I'm old and seasoned. You know, because we just keep reinventing stuff, and we don't even really get all the juice out of what we got. We didn't get all the juice out of Fix My Life. That's why we can go back in and do it again today. The things that are applicable. Back then, I did shows with mothers and daughters. And now, now you have mothers divorcing or daughters divorcing mothers, children not speaking to parents. That wasn't going on back then. So. Yeah, and also to let people know that sometimes you don't even know what you're looking at. Oh, yeah. Because people looked at that and got into the characters and the people, but they were looking at a whole nother thing.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
Ayanna Vanzant
Just like in the world today that we don't really know what we looking at.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, expound on that. Expound on that. We don't really know.
Ayanna Vanzant
You trying to get me shot? Do I look Somalian?
Charlamagne Tha God
I don't want. I do wish DMX could have lived to be on this.
Ayanna Vanzant
On this show, he wasn't ready. I think he was willing, but he wasn't ready ready. And you got to be both. Can't be just ready and not willing or willing. He wasn't. He wasn't ready.
DJ Envy
You also talk about lady balls.
Jess Hilarious
Lady balls.
DJ Envy
Does Jess have lady balls?
Charlamagne Tha God
What? Who?
Ayanna Vanzant
Yes.
Jess Hilarious
Okay. All right, Cool.
Ayanna Vanzant
Now. But we gotta understand that lady balls and testicles are different, okay?
Lauren LaRosa
Because testicles.
Charlamagne Tha God
Everything you see, ain't what you see now.
Ayanna Vanzant
Well, the hair you see on testicles is real.
Charlamagne Tha God
It's really there.
Jess Hilarious
That's right.
DJ Envy
Break down lady balls before. Just get defended.
Ayanna Vanzant
You see, a lot of women because of the. The way we are conditioned and programmed and educated take on masculine qualities, you know, and. And they think it's powerful. But feminine power is very different than masculine power power. Feminine power is assertive. Masculine power is aggressive. Feminine power is directive. It's nurturing. It's nourishing. It's clear. And masculine power is often domineering and controlling and directive, as opposed to collaborative. So lady balls. You know, a lot of women today want to be the boss, and they want to be the diva and. And have no leadership skills whatsoever. Lady balls are how a powerful woman lives in moves and stands in her power in a way that nurtures, nourishes, supports, heals, grows other people. It's not testicles. Testicles are aggressive. They got hair, and sometimes they smell. Don't ask me how I know.
Charlamagne Tha God
You know, it's interesting, in one of the episodes, you point out that women don't know the distinction between assertiveness and aggression.
Ayanna Vanzant
Yes.
Charlamagne Tha God
How do you advise women to create a distinction between the two?
Ayanna Vanzant
Well, lead with your heart and not with your head. Lead with your heart. That's. That's lady balls. Lady balls don't come from the crotch. They come from the heart.
DJ Envy
Did you come up with this term, lady balls?
Charlamagne Tha God
Did you come up.
Ayanna Vanzant
Because I said it for so long, but then when I went to try to trademark it, people have said that, but I spell mine differently. And nobody else has a deck of cards. My team created a deck of cards so you can pull your lady ball card.
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, you said deck. I was like, what the hell is it?
Ayanna Vanzant
That's because we're talking about balls. Mr. Willie doesn't have to show up.
Lauren LaRosa
What do you. What do you say to women who have, like. Because a lot of women shy away from leading with their heart because they're called too emotional, or they. They're scared to be vulnerable and make decisions based off of emotion. Because they think that they're not thinking clearly. Right.
Ayanna Vanzant
Why do you think the heart is about emotion?
Lauren LaRosa
That's what most people would relate heartfelt decisions to when it comes to women.
Ayanna Vanzant
Well, who. Who? Men.
Lauren LaRosa
Yes, men.
Ayanna Vanzant
Because most women are so far out of their heart, they don't even know what the heart does.
Lauren LaRosa
Yes.
Ayanna Vanzant
The truth is that the mind was created to be a slave of the heart. But we've made the heart a slave of the mind or the intellectual at heart. Centered is grounded. It's clarity. And again, nourishing, nurturing, edifying. It's progressive. The heart is progressive. The mind gets stuck in the loop. That's why we have therapy. Don't nobody go to nothing to try to get their heart fixed. They trying to fix their head.
Jess Hilarious
Yeah.
Ayanna Vanzant
The heart doesn't get stuck in a loop. The heart remains open. Open. Because the heart is where God speaks. God doesn't speak in the intellect. God speaks in the heart.
Charlamagne Tha God
Let me ask you a question about what you said about women having masculine qualities.
DJ Envy
No.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, masculine qualities, but no leadership ability.
Ayanna Vanzant
They want to be the boss and the diva, but they don't have leadership tendencies. Leadership training, Leadership. Not even qualities. Because you can have leadership quality holidays, but you have to have. A leader has to have a heart. We see what it looks like when a leader doesn't have a heart. Let me put my glasses on. I don't look Somali.
Charlamagne Tha God
Is that something you can learn or is that something that has to be in you already?
Ayanna Vanzant
Well, I think that leaders are born, but they definitely have to be trained. Some people say leaders are trained, they're not born. I believe leaders are born.
Charlamagne Tha God
I agree.
Ayanna Vanzant
Some people just rise into it. But there's certain qualities and characteristics that an effective leader needs. And the one thing is a heart. Heart for people. Another thing is a vision. Leadership isn't just about ordering people around and telling them what to do. A leader has to have a vision. And then you get people to buy into the vision, and you lead them in that vision in a way that's whole and healthy for everybody.
Charlamagne Tha God
You know that in corporate America all the time, a lot of people in leadership roles and leadership positions, but they're not actually leaders.
Ayanna Vanzant
No vision. They're controllers. They're demagogues, they're bullies. They're all sorts of things. And. And whenever money is the only thing that leads you, you're gonna have a problem.
DJ Envy
What would you say to somebody who's like, say, in a workplace or in a relationship that wants that work relationship or real relationship to Work.
Caller/Guest
Right.
DJ Envy
One of the exercises you did on the first episode, which was from what, 2014. I love it, was you brought everybody to a department store and you made everybody shop for each other. You buy this person outfit.
Charlamagne Tha God
You buy this person. Yeah, yeah.
DJ Envy
And then when you did, you said, well, why did you buy that person? That. How do you look at them? So what would you advise for a couple or even somebody working to do to try to fix it because you can't be there or they can't afford you?
Ayanna Vanzant
I should say, well, they can read my book. Because in spiritual hygiene, I have spiritual hygiene for relationships, spiritual hygiene for parenting, and spiritual hygiene for the workplace. Here's the thing. In any relationship, three things. Number one, tell the truth.
Charlamagne Tha God
That's right.
Ayanna Vanzant
One of the reasons our relationships are dying and drying up is because we lie about everything. We lie about what we feel, we lie about what we want. Want. Sometimes it's not a conscious lie. It's a lie driven by fear.
Jess Hilarious
Yeah.
Ayanna Vanzant
The fear of losing, the fear of being harmed. So we don't want to be vulnerable. But in order for anything to grow and thrive, you got to have some truth. The other thing is accountability. All the stuff that we're not seeing in the world today, tell the truth. Be accountable. Don't blame and project. Own your stuff. Own it. And be accountable for every choice, every word, every action, and know what you're bringing to the table. Particularly in the workplace, people go to work to make money. People go to work to. You know, very few people go to work to serve. So what are you bringing to the table that you want something in return?
Charlamagne Tha God
Give me, give me, give me, give me, give me.
Ayanna Vanzant
What are you bringing to the table? So I think that if we did that in relationships, if we did that in the workplace, we'd have a lot more respect and honor for if. I can't believe that your mother, your grandmother didn't die again, for the third time.
Jess Hilarious
I use that one a lot. How you gonna look at me? You know, I use that.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah, yeah.
Jess Hilarious
I mean, she only died once, but if I keep that in, you know, where do you.
Ayanna Vanzant
Where can you look somebody in the face and believe that what they're telling you is the truth, that they're not trying to take you down or get something from you or it's.
Charlamagne Tha God
Can we stay. I want to stay here with the spiritual hygiene. First of all, I love the title of the book. What. What is Spiritual Hygiene and how do people tend to it?
Ayanna Vanzant
It's the daily, daily commitment and practice of clearing your Mind of cleaning your heart, of strengthening your spirit. It's not a one time thing, it's a practice. Your spirit has to be maintained. Like your teeth. You know what, people brush their teeth every day and go years without an examination of their own thoughts. They got fungus in their mind. Many people are emotionally constipated. Still bad about mad about something that happened in 56. How do you clean that up? Up. You brush your hair, you, you wash your hoo ha, you know, but you don't clean your spirit, your heart, your mind. So spiritual hygiene is the daily practice of clearing your mind, your heart, your soul, your inner life so that your outer life can have a different appearance.
Charlamagne Tha God
So what about the people who pray? They go to therapy, they meditate, they sage, but they still stay toxic. Like what are they skipping enough?
Ayanna Vanzant
What's the prayer? What is the prayer? Most people beg, they don't pray, pray, you know, and all of that is good. But what's your relationship? What is your relationship with God? Source, creator, spirit of your understanding. What is your relationship? God doesn't want your, you know, tithes and, and service only. What is the relationship? And most people, many people, I won't say most, I'll say many, many people learn the function and the doing of the prayer. But they don't have the presence in the prayer. They don't have the relationship with the very thing they're praying to. Why I didn't. I grew up in the church, you know. I'll tell you a real funny story. They were trying to baptize me. I must have been five or six in the Apostolic Church, you know, that's everything's a sin.
Jess Hilarious
Yes ma', am.
Ayanna Vanzant
Rolling your lip is a sin. Sin. Anyway, they're getting ready to baptize me and you know, they dunk you down in water and stuff and they say to me, will you take, do you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and savior? Now this is way back when, that's how old I am. When Jesus was still on the cross with the little droplets of blood on his hands. I, me, the brilliant child, I look up and I say, who him?
Caller/Guest
He can't help me.
Ayanna Vanzant
You know, I got beat until tomorrow, you know that, right?
Lauren LaRosa
Right?
Ayanna Vanzant
I said, who him? He can't help me because you know, he's died off the cross now you don't see him. But we were fed religion. We were told what to do. We weren't taught to build a relationship. And it took me a long time to know that it wasn't about the doing of It. It was about the being in relationship in the presence, being present in the prayer, being still, and knowing.
Charlamagne Tha God
When did you learn to pray?
Ayanna Vanzant
And I begged when the begging wasn't working. I just got tired of begging. And then I said, okay, what am I doing wrong? I'm. I'm begging and you're not paying attention. This is not the way a God is supposed to respond. When I learned two things. How to be still and how to know how to be still within my mind, my heart, spiritual hygiene, and how to know when I was in the presence, not when I was reaching out, but when I was turning in. And that was it for me. Instead of going out, go in.
Lauren LaRosa
I remember you did the. You had the really big daddyless daughter segments that you would do, and you would talk about the uncle. Like, the things that they need to like, or the words they need to know, like, daddy's gone, and just the reality of, like, moving forward from.
DJ Envy
And I remember you're not triggered right now, right?
Lauren LaRosa
No, I'm not triggered, but I used to watch. I used to watch the show because me and my dad at that time, it was like, early on in us trying to figure out, okay, he's new back into my life, how do I feel? Do I have questions? And I. I got to a point where I was like, all right, you weren't here. Here's where my life is. Like, I don't want to be a victim or like a product of that.
Charlamagne Tha God
She was Daddy. Listen.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah, I just said that.
Ayanna Vanzant
Stupid.
Charlamagne Tha God
I just want to make sure she understands.
Lauren LaRosa
But your. Your series. Your series helped me, though. Was one of them people that was like, very, like. She just act like it didn't happen. You were. You acknowledged that it happened, but you didn't let people live in it. So it helped me to realize, like, okay, what are we going to do here? Like, what. What are we going to do with the relationship? Or what are we going to do with yourself and how you feel about that? And if it's not accepted from him or responded to in the way you want, you just. You can only control yourself.
Ayanna Vanzant
Yeah. Because you get to choose, and he gets to choose. And sometimes the shame of it, the guilt of it, it. A lot of dads, moms, people can't show up. Husbands who cheat come back and they can never get it together. Or wives, because. Did you know wives were cheating?
Jess Hilarious
Yes.
Charlamagne Tha God
Black men don't cheat, but, boy, what Black women.
Ayanna Vanzant
You don't. Your nose is growing. Let me move. Exactly. Yeah, but, you know, my. My hope. My Prayer. And I. I appreciate so many people are so excited about the show, about the book. And may my legacy be, if nothing else, that I gave people skills and tools to take responsibility for themselves. Because the world we're in right now, the mess that we're in, is because we were anticipating somebody else doing for us what we needed to do for ourselves. And so we got to do the work. You have to do your work.
Charlamagne Tha God
Accountability is a hard concept for a lot of people to grasp, Ms.
Ayanna Vanzant
Von Zein. Awareness, accountability and integrity. Integrity where your mind, your heart, and what you do are all aligned. Very often people think one thing, feel something, and do something else. Get an integrity, line it up and be willing to piss people off. Off to maintain your own integrity. Honor yourself. Don't set yourself on fire to keep other people warm. Don't dim your light like that. Take responsibility and just embrace everybody in the process.
Charlamagne Tha God
You always say healing isn't pretty. Why do people romanticize spirituality but reject the mess that's required to actually evolve?
Ayanna Vanzant
Intellectualizing the spirit like people think spiritual people shouldn't get angry. I'm from Brooklyn. I don't get angry. I get pissed the F off. And I'm coming for you now.
DJ Envy
Revenge.
Ayanna Vanzant
Okay. All right. You know what I'm talking about. I grew up with the bodega on the corner, okay? So I just don't do that. I'm responsible for myself when I do it, if I do it, and I don't stay stuck there. And that's not going to become an identity for me. Let me see you abuse a child. I'm coming for you all guns drawn, cussing like a sailor, and hit you in your head, punch you right in your throat. Okay. Disrespect a woman in my presence. I'm coming for you. You know, so even though I'm a deeply spiritual person, and there's some times when you have to again, throw cold water in somebody's face. But people want to intellectualize spirituality. Oh, you have to be kind and loving. Yes, you do all the not. But sometimes you are human. And it's okay in terms of it being healing, not being pretty. It's because most of us are not aware of the depth of healing that is required. It. We're not aware. We think it's just if he would behave or if they would come back or if they would say, I'm sorry, that it would be okay. It's so much deeper than that, so much deeper. And most people are afraid to go in. And I. When I say most people I'm not generalizing. I'm speaking about in terms of the years that I've been doing this work and what I've seen. What I've seen. Don't want to go within, don't want to look it within. Don't want to do the spiritual hygiene. No, no, no.
Charlamagne Tha God
Is there a difference between being spiritual, spiritually clean and being spiritually sterile? And what I mean by that, can we ever over sanitize ourselves out of just human connection?
Ayanna Vanzant
Now that, I don't know, spiritually clean, you. You're still among everybody. If you're not connected, then you're not spiritual at all. All because the deepest part of spirituality is connection. So I, I don't know about spiritually sterile. Let me write that down because, you.
Charlamagne Tha God
Know, I'll forget the only reason some people try to. Like you said, they try to set so many boundaries and they intellectualize spirituality. To think that they gotta be away from people and be apart from people. That. To me, that's not.
Ayanna Vanzant
But some of them do. I mean, look at the monks. Some of them, that's their mission. That's their ministry. That's what they do. They go out there. I'm not, I'm not on that committee. I'm not on that committee. I'm a. I'm on the people committee. But I. But spiritually sterile. I don't know. That's a good. Thank you for that. That'll be my next book.
Charlamagne Tha God
I love Spiritual Hygiene, man, because there's a rapper named DG Ola and he had a song, it's a. I call it a Negro spiritual called Ain't Gonna Let Up. And in the song he said, get yourself together. Go get your brain a bath. Go to church, Start listening. Get on the right path. And that's what spiritual hygiene is. Clean up your spiritual hygiene.
Ayanna Vanzant
And I, you know, I, I'm. I really, for me, the greatest thing was to see how far I've come because I wasn't spiritually clean. I wasn't. And to see how far I've come and, and look at the experiences that I've had. The divorce, the, the death of my partner, my, my, my losing two daughters, you know, all of it. All of it. And to see how far I've come. You know, you can't fall off the floor. So I was on the floor. So to see how far I've come from how far down I was is humbling. It's really humbling because millions didn't make it.
DJ Envy
Thank you for joining us.
Ayanna Vanzant
Thank you for Having me. I really fun and I. Can I say this to you?
Jess Hilarious
Yes.
Ayanna Vanzant
First of all, you are absolutely gorgeous.
Jess Hilarious
You know that, right? Yes, ma'.
Ayanna Vanzant
Am. Don't let Charlam tell you anything. Anything.
Jess Hilarious
Okay. Yes.
DJ Envy
Can you tell it to Lauren too?
Ayanna Vanzant
Yeah, well, she knows she's the baby girl. She just a cutie little funkin in her face.
DJ Envy
Let me tell Charl. Don't bother.
Charlamagne Tha God
That's what.
DJ Envy
That was the part I meant.
Ayanna Vanzant
Don't bother.
Charlamagne Tha God
I don't bother.
Lauren LaRosa
Yes, he does.
Charlamagne Tha God
I've been trying to get her to get her spiritual hygiene clean.
Ayanna Vanzant
I am so proud of you.
Charlamagne Tha God
Thank you.
Ayanna Vanzant
Really, as an og, I am so proud of you and the way that you present. I mean, sometimes you all do a little controversial, but that's okay. I'm og, But I can do this. My little ones keep me up to date. Continue to represent yourselves and us in this really, really powerful, productive way. I was so excited when I heard about Netflix.
Jess Hilarious
Good.
Ayanna Vanzant
So just continue to do it. Okay.
DJ Envy
All right.
Jess Hilarious
It's the Breakfast Club.
Ayanna Vanzant
Good morning.
Charlamagne Tha God
I love y'. All.
DJ Envy
I just want to tell you, if y' all don't know, that I love each one of y'.
Charlamagne Tha God
All.
Lauren LaRosa
Oh, I love you too.
Charlamagne Tha God
Shut up.
Jess Hilarious
Oh, my God.
DJ Envy
I said I love you. You ain't gonna say I love you back?
Charlamagne Tha God
You know what?
Jess Hilarious
I had so much trauma as a kid. Wrinkle ass. I ain't gonna say I love you back.
Charlamagne Tha God
Thinking about it.
Jess Hilarious
You know me.
Lauren LaRosa
You work at a.
DJ Envy
Have a place that we work at.
Jess Hilarious
I know you do.
Lauren LaRosa
I love my coworkers for over a decade.
Jess Hilarious
Longer than you've been knowing any of us.
Charlamagne Tha God
And you know that, and I know that. I don't know what comes behind that. So I don't. I'm not just answering to I love you. I feel like manipulating me right now. What are you. What are you saying this for? Why did you just randomly say this?
DJ Envy
Trying to manipulate, traumatize me?
Lauren LaRosa
Forget it.
Charlamagne Tha God
I just want to know why you randomly say.
DJ Envy
You said I need to say, say my feelings more. So I'm saying my feelings to you, and now you don't say nothing back.
Charlamagne Tha God
But I was sitting here the whole time, and then Gunnar was playing we. I went on F tonight. I don't see. I don't say. I'm just looking at you. It's not. Have nothing to do with me being afraid to tell you I love you. It's just. I need to understand the context of why you decided to say it in this moment.
DJ Envy
Forget it. Let's get to the latest with Lauren.
Jess Hilarious
Yo.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah. I'm not dumbing myself down. I'm being myself.
Charlamagne Tha God
That ain't true.
Lauren LaRosa
I'm the home girl that knows a little bit about everything and everything.
Jess Hilarious
Little brown girls look at you and.
Lauren LaRosa
Go, I want to be like you.
Charlamagne Tha God
Take me through that.
Lauren LaRosa
Take me through there.
Jess Hilarious
Where she going?
Charlamagne Tha God
The lady on the Breakfast Club. LL Cool B, talk to me.
Lauren LaRosa
So y' all remember Dion Cole was here on the Breakfast Club when he came to promote the NAACP Image Awards going down on February 28th. And he told us that Brian Austin Green was going to be on his podcast because there had been a conversation about Brian Austin Green and Tichina Arnold dating. Let's take a listen to him here on the Breakfast Club.
Charlamagne Tha God
We got another one coming out this Wednesday. We got Brian Austin Green from 9210. Yeah.
Ayanna Vanzant
Wow.
Charlamagne Tha God
He's gonna be talking about what Tashina was saying about.
Ayanna Vanzant
Go ahead.
Charlamagne Tha God
Get the. Yeah, yeah. So Wednesday was while they was on Martin, and she said that she had.
DJ Envy
Let him go because he was sleeping with so many black women.
Ayanna Vanzant
He.
Caller/Guest
He.
Charlamagne Tha God
She didn't want to keep sleeping with him.
Jess Hilarious
And then.
Charlamagne Tha God
Then he go be with a white girl and. And share his riches with a white girl.
Jess Hilarious
So she let him go.
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, she's. She's lying.
Lauren LaRosa
So that conversation has premiered. He gave us the little insight, and now it is here. So, Brian, Officer Green sat down with Dion Cole for his show, Funny to know you. And, yeah, they get into the conversation. Funny knowing you. I'm sorry. Yeah, so they get into the conversation, and Brian Austin Green has a very different take on how the relationship went because he says that Tichina was the one who was hiding the relationship. Let's take a listen to Brian Austin Green on Tashina hiding the relationship.
DJ Envy
Tashina, I.
Jess Hilarious
She was doing Martin at the time when I was doing 90210. She was singing, I was producing. So I. I became friends with her and Tisha quick. Then Tashina started coming by the house.
Charlamagne Tha God
And I was just playing beats, and.
Jess Hilarious
It was like, oh, yeah, let's work on some stuff. And we were doing that.
Ayanna Vanzant
And then.
Jess Hilarious
Then, because we were working together and.
Charlamagne Tha God
We were around each other all the.
Jess Hilarious
Time, we just got along really well. So we ended up fooling around and kind of dating. But it's funny.
Charlamagne Tha God
So the pride that you say in.
Jess Hilarious
Culture and race, like, she.
Charlamagne Tha God
Coming from Martin, she was very clear on day one of, like, nobody can know about this.
Jess Hilarious
Like, it really triggered something of like.
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, okay, I'm not good enough.
Jess Hilarious
For any of this. You don't even want your friends to know that you're hanging out with.
Ayanna Vanzant
With me.
Charlamagne Tha God
Brian, shut up. Shut up, Brian, shut up. And thank God that you got the opportunity to clap those colored cheeks. You hear me? God gave you the opportunity, you know, the colored cheeks. God gave you the opportunity to taste that Nubian nectar. Yeah. Sit down, eat this slice of pizza and be quiet.
Jess Hilarious
He was fine though.
Lauren LaRosa
Okay.
Jess Hilarious
The sh.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah, he was. I mean, he was fine. I think even in this interview. Yeah. He still has a little bit of the eh, whatever. But now. Okay, I'm not mad at her for controlling the relationship that way. And I understand her. You know, her hesitancy at the time.
Jess Hilarious
Is that could have been a cute little couple.
Lauren LaRosa
Well, okay, so he does say in.
Jess Hilarious
The interview, couple, but cute.
Lauren LaRosa
Eventually they did start popping out, but basically she had already put him in this mindset or this place of like. No, nobody knows. But he says that because they're. Another part of the conversation was her saying, like, you're going to end up with a white woman at the end of all of this. So a white woman at the end all this. So I don't want to invest my time.
Charlamagne Tha God
Right.
Jess Hilarious
Did he.
Charlamagne Tha God
Did he though?
Lauren LaRosa
He did. And basically. What. Let's listen to what Tashina said and then I'll explain because. Yeah. It happened the way she said it. Let's listen to this.
Jess Hilarious
I did say.
Ayanna Vanzant
I did. The actor that I dated.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
Ayanna Vanzant
And the one white guy that I dated.
Charlamagne Tha God
You dated a white guy?
Jess Hilarious
I sure did.
Ayanna Vanzant
That's good.
Charlamagne Tha God
How was that?
Ayanna Vanzant
It was nice.
Jess Hilarious
But he was. He was different. But I told him, I said the reason why I'm not, you know, we've come to the end of our road because I know, I see you dating all these black women.
Ayanna Vanzant
Now you're dating me and you're not.
Jess Hilarious
Gonna end up with a black woman.
Ayanna Vanzant
You're gonna share your riches and your.
Jess Hilarious
Legacy with someone white.
Ayanna Vanzant
And so I'm getting off this triumph.
Charlamagne Tha God
You like him and he likes you.
Jess Hilarious
We liked. But he pursued me.
Lauren LaRosa
He actually took me on a date to.
Jess Hilarious
We did the red carpet. They asked me to.
Charlamagne Tha God
I was like, what you going.
Lauren LaRosa
And this is in the high of Martin too.
Ayanna Vanzant
Yeah.
Jess Hilarious
I was like, what?
Lauren LaRosa
But he was good looking and stuff.
Jess Hilarious
And I mean, I said Brian Austin Green. But he was. Yeah. Very well off.
Ayanna Vanzant
Yeah.
Lauren LaRosa
Nice guy.
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, yeah, he was. The chat just reminded me he was married to Megan Fox.
Lauren LaRosa
Yes. I was about to give you the list. So he also. He was dealing with Vanessa Marcille. He has a son with her, his ex wife, Megan Fox. He actually says he introduced. Introduced Tashina to Megan Fox at one point and told Megan Fox, this is the worst girlfriend I ever had because of what they went through. But yeah, he has kids with these women and they're not black women.
Charlamagne Tha God
I wonder what his colored list looks like. Because they said his colored list. Because they said he was dating a bunch of black women.
Jess Hilarious
What do you mean? What's the colored list?
Lauren LaRosa
He had a bunch of black girls. The black women. Yeah, he was hanging out in the hip hop scene. Oh, you didn't like how he said.
Jess Hilarious
It ain't no damn.
Ayanna Vanzant
What?
Jess Hilarious
Let me see a colored list. What he can't.
Lauren LaRosa
Do we.
Ayanna Vanzant
Anyway.
Jess Hilarious
Do we know any other color?
Charlamagne Tha God
Exactly.
Jess Hilarious
Do you know any other. Do we know any of the other black women he was dating, though?
Lauren LaRosa
Right? Now, the only people that.
Jess Hilarious
Were they famous or.
Lauren LaRosa
Well, he says during that time that though because he was at the height of his career, he was hanging out in the hip hop scene. There were women of certain names. But he says there was no social media. They were able to keep things low, you know, but that was a different time. Yeah, that was a whole different time. So. Okay.
Charlamagne Tha God
And shut up and appreciate the things that God blessed you with, Brian.
DJ Envy
Nobody shuts up anymore. Everybody want to tell everything.
Charlamagne Tha God
Just. You know what I mean?
DJ Envy
Just enjoy your moment.
Lauren LaRosa
Started it, though, I was gonna say, to be fair, she brought it up in the first interview. Tashina Arnold talked about it, though.
Jess Hilarious
She. No, she ended up saying it.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah. And that's what Dion told us here. He told us that this response was going to happen. But he does say that they did, that this was all out of love. There's no hate between them. And he says that they spoke right before he went into that interview. So I'm sure he told her.
Charlamagne Tha God
Man, when is Dr. Umar gonna sit down with all the dialogue and have. So I'm gonna have to sentence you for 10,000 lashes. Doctor Umar. Got some thoughts about this one.
DJ Envy
That's the latest with Lauren now.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah, coming up. I gotta say, coming up in the next latest, we're gonna get into some LeBron, Rich Paul stuff. Because LeBron, I mean, Rich Paul has himself in some hot water. And of course, it's bubbling on over to LeBron.
Charlamagne Tha God
Paul must not care about Clutch no more. He must not care about being an agent at all.
DJ Envy
We'll talk about that next hour. And don't forget, also get on the lines. Just fix my mess. 800-585-10.51. Now she has this book that's coming out the 28th, right?
Jess Hilarious
Yes, April 28th.
DJ Envy
So if you're having co parenting issues, she will break it down for you. 800-585-1051. Jess will fix your co parenting mess this morning. Now, Charlotte, man, who you giving your donkey to, man?
Charlamagne Tha God
I need one of you gamers, William Busy. To come to the front of the congregation. We like to have a word with him. Not bussy busy.
DJ Envy
Okay, Okay.
Charlamagne Tha God
I a say nothing about no, but.
DJ Envy
Listen, that list is horrible, boy. All right, we'll get to it.
Charlamagne Tha God
Next, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Hush Batman your fake ass.
Ayanna Vanzant
Charlamagne.
Charlamagne Tha God
Some donkey today has just saw himself. I've been watching Charlamagne.
Ayanna Vanzant
I was ready for.
DJ Envy
Donkey.
Charlamagne Tha God
I never heard old donkey of the day. What is it?
DJ Envy
I'm a donkey.
Charlamagne Tha God
Say it again. Charlemagne.
Ayanna Vanzant
I'm a donkey.
Charlamagne Tha God
You are a donkey.
Ayanna Vanzant
Everything that Charlemagne is saying is true.
Charlamagne Tha God
Donkey Today for Thursday, January 15th goes to a 61 year old man named William Boy Bushy. Okay? Now, William is described as an isolated man who spent an inordinate amount of time alone playing computer games in his room. Okay. I don't know if you all realize it, but there's a whole plethora of people who don't need to do anything in life except for this. Okay? In fact, this is their life. They are called gamers. Right. And it's levels to being a gamer. All right, they have specific terms like hardcore gamer, which describes individuals who dedicate a significant amount of time to playing games. Other terms include gaming apps addict and gaming enthusiast, which highlights their passion and enjoyment of video games respectively. Well, we need to add a new descriptor to this list because what do you call a person who's willing to kill you if you get between them and their gaming time? We'll discuss in a second, but first let's go to CBS8 for the report, please. This is the shotgun that he loaded. A shotgun that nobody knew that he had.
Lauren LaRosa
San Diego Deputy District Attorney Scott Perello showed jurors a weapon William Bush he used in the August 2024 shooting deaths.
Charlamagne Tha God
Of his sister, 61 year old L.O.
Lauren LaRosa
Robinson and nephew, 33 year old Brett Robinson. Bushy's 86 year old mother June Bushy was also injured.
Charlamagne Tha God
June testified she and her daughter were talking outside on the patio of her.
Mimi Brown
Point Loma home when Bushy emerged with.
Lauren LaRosa
A gun and started shooting without saying a word. But Bushy's defense attorney argued he kept to himself and had never been violent. He says Bushy moved in with his.
Charlamagne Tha God
Mom after being diagnosed with hiv, leaving.
Lauren LaRosa
Leaving him so sick he couldn't work, saying Bushy snapped, believing his sister was trying to get him kicked out.
Charlamagne Tha God
That was CBS too, by the way. Listen, man, society really has a flawed dependency on technology. We saw that yesterday when Verizon went down for 10 hours. Folks was losing their minds. Have you ever seen the movie Leave the World Behind? We discussed it a little bit earlier. The Obamas were producers on it, and they have this whole three part disaster thing theory, which is isolation, synchronized chaos, and then civil war. It shows how cyber terrorism can destabilize a powerful country. People always ask, could this happen in real life? And the answer is yes. Okay? You shut down all forms of communication. You know, get rid of Internet, tv, phone, satellites, video games. Shut all that down. People will lose their minds because we are a technology technologically dependent society, okay? When you shut down our technology, people fall into a state of hopelessness and confusion. And that's exactly what happened to this dude, William Bushy, on top of everything else he was dealing with, okay? He's heard that he was diagnosed with HIV. He was 61 years old, had to live back home with his mom for the last 15 years. So that means from the age of 46, he was living with his mom, okay? He clearly has never heard no Scrubs by tlc, because if he did, that would have set him off a long time ago. Now, he had a history of acting hostile style toward family members, all right? So he clearly never liked any of them. And if you read the actual police report, it says his sister moved back in. His sister moved back in. And that set him off, too, and led him to start acting out even more. Sidebar. And I want y' all to remember this, man, when you pray for negativity to be removed from your life, don't be surprised when God starts removing family members. And furthermore, you don't have to have any loyalty to your family if you know they aren't going to do anything but call cause you problems. Okay? Did you hear the great Ayan Levon's not last hour when she said she avoided her daughter's funeral because she didn't want to trigger her daughter's son because she knows she's a trigger for him and she's not gonna put herself in an emotionally unsafe situation where some harm could happen to her. She knew that and distanced herself. Because oftentimes, all right, our greatest challenges don't come from the outside. Hell no. They come from the Inside, internally, in your own head, okay? Folks are dealing with all types of mental and emotional issues and inside our relationships, inside our families, okay? If you don't feel safe around your family members, you better listen to your heart, three sacks. Because that awareness can and will save your life. All right? The prosecutor in this case. Well, I think. I don't know if it's the prosecutor, but I was reading the report and it said the family took several safety measures out of fear. Okay? They removed knives from the home, they changed locks, and they got a restraining training order, okay? And they were taking steps to evict him. Police were even called to the house twice because of angry outbursts from William. And officers determined no crimes were committed, so they didn't arrest him on either occasion. And now look, all these people dead mama shot because the Internet was shut down and you couldn't play your video games, okay? And all they was trying to do was relocate the wi fi router from his room, his bedroom bedroom to his mama's room. Look, man, you are not responsible for your trauma, but you are responsible for your healing. William was 61 years old. This was a fully grown ass man. Okay? Big age. Is 61. The same commitment he had to video games. He should have had to his own mental, mental well being. Because if you can tell law enforcement you felt inadequate and isolated, then you could have also told that to a therapist. And William is currently on trial and he's gonna get sentenced to forever. He's gonna get sentenced to forever at least three times, all right? Not to mention, William, your dumb ass ain't even gonna get to enjoy GTA 6, okay? You gonna be in prison with an anus full of skin flutes while the rest of the world is experiencing the greatness of Grand Theft Auto 6. You didn't take this. You didn't think this thing through. Okay? You went in William Bushy, but you're gonna die. William Bussy. Please give William Bussy the biggest he haw.
Jess Hilarious
I just want to say what his is very protected, should be. I. I don't think anybody going to be going up in there if you.
Charlamagne Tha God
Already got a life sentence.
Jess Hilarious
No, he the one with the life sentence.
Charlamagne Tha God
But if you already got a life sentence in prison, you don't even.
Jess Hilarious
No, no.
Charlamagne Tha God
If you already got a life sentence, you don't really care.
Jess Hilarious
Ah n you that you. I don't know how many skin fleets be flying.
Charlamagne Tha God
You already got a life sentence.
Jess Hilarious
Damn. His levels the life sentences though, yo.
Charlamagne Tha God
It's not a very long time.
DJ Envy
Nobody won't Play.
Charlamagne Tha God
Definitely Caucasian. Come on, William.
Jess Hilarious
Bushy mom, you ruining my life at 61.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes.
Jess Hilarious
Like what? No, he's white.
DJ Envy
GTA 6 ain't come out yet, right? No, that's what he said.
Ayanna Vanzant
Damn.
Jess Hilarious
Okay.
DJ Envy
All right. Well, thank you for that donkey today, sir. Now when we come back, 800-585-1051. Jess, fix my mess now, Jess, when your book's coming out. When is your book coming out?
Jess Hilarious
My book, Till Death Do We Parent is coming out April 28, 2026.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes, indeed.
Jess Hilarious
And it's available for pre order right now on my website, jessalariusofficial.com or wherever you pre order your books, buy your books from. And yeah, I wanted to devote this segment just Fix My Mess this week and every week leading up to the release of my book to co parenting, because it's such a topic.
DJ Envy
Yeah. So if you're having a co parent issue and you need just to fix your mess, call her up right now. 800-585-1051. It's the breakfast Club. Good morning.
Charlamagne Tha God
It's the real deal. Help me, help me, My God, I'm.
Jess Hilarious
All up in your mess I'mma fix.
Ayanna Vanzant
It, fix it, fix my mess Fix.
Jess Hilarious
It, fix it J Go fix your mess Cuz my advice is real.
DJ Envy
Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Jess. Hilarious Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got Maggie on the line. Maggie, what's up?
Caller/Guest
Hey, how are you guys?
Charlamagne Tha God
All right.
DJ Envy
Jessica, fix your mess. What's your problems?
Jess Hilarious
Come on, you sound sad. What's going on?
Caller/Guest
Hey, J. I have two kids and I live in. And we live in two different neighborhoods. So their dad lives in one neighborhood and I live in another. He's supposed to watch them while I'm at work, but his parents are watching them instead. And it's becoming overwhelming for me because I have to take them to Cheers Women School and everything that I'm taking them to, I'm taking them late.
Jess Hilarious
So you don't have any help basically from the father, but you do have help from his parents?
Caller/Guest
Yes. It proves him, though. I'm not really talking to him parents, but I'm talking to him like, are you able to do such and such? And it's actually him saying yes, but making his parents do it.
Jess Hilarious
Okay, so. Because it's kind of hard to understand you in my own, like, speakerphone. Are we on Bluetooth or anything? Because it's like I can hear you, but I'm struggling to hear you.
Caller/Guest
Can you hear me?
Jess Hilarious
Yes, I can hear you now. Now you said that last part about his parents. He basically has his parents taking care of his child, pulling the weight of him, like pulling the weight for him.
Caller/Guest
Yes.
Jess Hilarious
Okay. And so what you want is, is some accountability for him. You want him to step up and, and, and be the father or something.
Caller/Guest
Like, I'm going through him to get help, but he's making his parents do it. But it's also making me feel overwhelmed.
Jess Hilarious
Yeah, that. See, that's the thing though, right? You can't really. You can't really change that, you know what I mean? Unless you do go to the courts, you know, because they still are helping. Technically, it's still help from his side. And you. You can't even control that. You know what I mean? I know it's over overwhelming for you, but you're causing yourself a lot of harm just mentally and just draining. Like, it's draining because you're worried about him being a parent while you got to be the parent. And his parents are helping, but he's not really stepping up as a dad. Now. You can't make him do that. The court can, but you can't make him do that. So if you already doing bad by yourself, get the court to be involved with it. You know what I mean? What's keeping you from doing that if it, if it has to get to that.
Caller/Guest
I don't know what to. Like, what am I asking the porch for?
Jess Hilarious
That's what I'm asking you. Like, what exactly are you so, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, are you asking him to step up more financially? He needs to get his kids. Because it just sounds as if you're upset that the, that their father basically is their grandparents.
Charlamagne Tha God
But.
Jess Hilarious
But you're the mom. Like, you really can't control him. Like, you know, and how you got two kids with him.
Caller/Guest
Yes.
Jess Hilarious
Okay. What made you have the same.
Caller/Guest
Because he was a really good dad originally, but when he lost his job after we had the second one, that's when we started having problems.
Jess Hilarious
Yeah. Yeah. Well, I can tell you right now, man, it's women out there that got kids who. Dad ain't doing nothing and the parents ain't even doing nothing. You got help from his parents. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but it's a bad thing for him because he's not the one directly being a parent. But at least you do got help from that. From that other side. I know that sounds. That's probably not what you want to hear, but you can't control it, you know, you can't control whether or not he be. He steps up to the plate and be a dad. That's what I'm saying. If it ain't getting to the point where you got to take it to the courts, allow. Just keep taking the help that you're getting from his side, okay? Yeah, babe, I'm sorry about that. But keep doing what you're doing, babe. No problem.
DJ Envy
Good luck.
Caller/Guest
All right, thank you.
DJ Envy
Who do we have on the line?
Caller/Guest
Hi, cj.
DJ Envy
Hey, what's up? What's your problem?
Ayanna Vanzant
Mama?
Jess Hilarious
Good morning.
Caller/Guest
Good morning. So just fix my mess was for co parenting, right?
Ayanna Vanzant
Correct?
DJ Envy
Yes, ma'.
Jess Hilarious
Am.
Caller/Guest
Okay, so I have a 13 year old son who is autistic and his dad is just a bum. Let's just keep it real. So now he has a new family with a three year old, almost three year old daughter, and everything is ran by his new household. Mind you, we're 38 and 36. 7. That woman is 23 years old. Why is she running? What's going on with our son who is 10 years younger than her?
Jess Hilarious
Like you said, she's 23 years old.
Caller/Guest
Yes, ma'.
Jess Hilarious
Am. Oh, oh, okay. Your baby Daddy's girlfriend is 23 years old. Okay. You have a 13 year old.
Caller/Guest
Yes, he's 38. I'm 37 and our son's 13. He's autistic, nonverbal. His behavior is kind of crazy, but he's very calm with his. So I like him being around his dad. My daughter is 21. I got an older daughter too. Her dad ain't never been in her life less two weeks before she was born. So with this one, I try to keep the relationship going, but at this point, I'm about ready to end it. And I don't want to do that to my son because I feel like that would be putting him at a disadvantage.
Jess Hilarious
Absolutely.
Caller/Guest
But I'm about to ready. About ready to blow up, and I'm trying not to do that.
Jess Hilarious
Okay, so what's making.
Caller/Guest
How can I get through to my. My son's dad for him to make my son a priority?
Jess Hilarious
Okay, so you feel like he's not. Is it. Is it really. Be honest with me. Is it that you feel like he's not really a priority or is it the girlfriend that you don't like because she always got something to say or like what?
Caller/Guest
Oh, no, we. In three, four years that they've been together, her and I have only had one conversation. I don't have no issues with her. I respect her as a mom. I Just don't think that she should be. Well, every female run the household. Let's just be honest.
Jess Hilarious
They've been together for three years.
Caller/Guest
Yes.
Jess Hilarious
Okay, so she was 20. Okay, so go ahead.
Ayanna Vanzant
Yes.
Caller/Guest
And I've been, I've been with my, like I have a man too. We've been together almost five years. But he works.
Jess Hilarious
Congratulations.
Caller/Guest
Overseas sometimes I think you out of state, all of that. So I don't involve him in this. He got his own kids own co parenting situation. I don't have no problem with that.
Jess Hilarious
Girl.
Caller/Guest
Me and that man ain't even slept together since 2017. 17. So it ain't that either.
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay.
Caller/Guest
But because our son is so severely autistic, I need him to be a part of his life.
Jess Hilarious
Yeah.
Caller/Guest
You know, I can't be the only.
Jess Hilarious
One is a conversation.
Caller/Guest
I'm trying not to be a. I.
Jess Hilarious
I, I understand that sometimes we, we want to go there, but that honestly don't, don't do anything but make matters worse for us, you know? So is it like a conversation that you can just have with him because it seems easy. Like you could just talk to him about it because you said he's a great dad, but you said he is a bum.
Ayanna Vanzant
Yes.
Jess Hilarious
How is he a bum? I ain't hear no bum qualities yet.
Caller/Guest
Oh, he doesn't. He never keeps a job. Never has any money. Sent me $10 in a whole two months thinking that that was gonna do something. Will quit a job in a heartbeat just because he thinks that the hours aren't flexible enough or something like that. To me, a bum is somebody that don't get up and get to it. I don't want to go to work everybody day. Yeah, but it's work every day because I have to.
Jess Hilarious
I got you. Is he in the son's life because.
Caller/Guest
I allow him to be?
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes.
Jess Hilarious
Listen at you. Listen at you. Is he in his son's life all.
Caller/Guest
Day long of time. Right. He has a whole day of time, does nothing. But you can't have your son so I can go to work. So now I'm putting in time for me to be at home with my son because you can't take him. Why? Oh, well, she got the call. Okay, well, we have bus lines and I don't mind bringing him. Oh, well, no, no, no, no. There shouldn't be so many excuses.
Jess Hilarious
You are so.
Caller/Guest
I am trying to have a conversation with him without so many excuses also, like I just get up and get to it. I understand that the person that laid down with me, I shouldn't have to beg for you to help me with the life you created with me.
Jess Hilarious
I got you. I got you. But a lot of this does sound contradiction. It sounds like you're contradicting yourself because you've said, said that he's a bum. He don't do you know what he would, he doesn't do what you need him to do for the child. But when I asked is he in the child's life, you said it's only because I will, I allow him to be. That ain't.
Caller/Guest
I'm saying that because I don't think on his own he would be in his child's life. That's why I'm saying like that. Like he don't call to get him, he doesn't want to go do things with him. Like I think that he is in Kyra's life because he has to be and because he laid down with me, not because he looked like I know he loved his son because he's a son.
Jess Hilarious
Yeah.
Caller/Guest
But I think that love is only part of parenting.
Jess Hilarious
Yeah, yeah.
Caller/Guest
And I need you to do the other stuff too. So yeah, you're, you're.
Jess Hilarious
But love is the bulk of it though. Love is sacrifice though. Love is, you know, love is, you know, building a bond. Love is a whole bunch of things. This is the thing, it sounds like you are tired, you are exhausted, you know what I'm saying? You've been doing, you do the bulk of the work, you know, you're the primary parent, he lives with you, he's 13, he's not non verbal. It's a lot, you know, and it's only going to become more and more work as he gets older because he does, you know, he can't, he can't do certain things, you know what I'm saying? This sounds like a conversation and honestly sounds like you need just therapy individually as well. You need something that help. You need an outlet because you're very, you're tired, you work, you take care of your child. That's also a full time job over because you know, I understand he, he has a special needs. So it's like you're tired. But that is where your projection come in at too because it sound like you, you project on him a lot too because you're tired, you work, you have to work and you got to take care of your child. This sounds like just like a conversation you gotta have with him outside of the girlfriend. Yeah, like definitely with him. Because it do sound like a little animosity between Lil Shorty and you, too. But I'm saying definitely have a conversation with your child's father. Like, just by yourself, you know, Let him know you need him. Let him know, like, yo, I need you to hear me, but don't come at him. Cause I can already tell your mouth get crazy. Like, just. Just. It does.
Caller/Guest
And his does, too. I think we actually need a mediator. I think a conversation would be good. Yeah, but we need a mediator, because him and I always meet each other's energy. Like, my man is very calm. He. My baby dad is not. So when he get going, I get going.
Jess Hilarious
Yeah. It don't sound like neither one of y'.
Charlamagne Tha God
All.
Caller/Guest
Looks like we need a mediator.
Jess Hilarious
No, we're not. Yeah, yeah, no, I got you.
Ayanna Vanzant
But.
Jess Hilarious
But still, it's still worth a conversation. You know what I'm saying? Even with a mediator, it's worth a conversation. Now, me, one of your friends that's gonna jump on your team, and I don't need one of his friends. I'm talking about, like, a real mediator, one that loves you both or one that don't know you both. Like, go and see a real therapist, counselor or something like that.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
Caller/Guest
Yes, we could do that.
Jess Hilarious
Yeah. Co parenting is not easy, babe. But I'm telling you, it is. It can be a very beautiful thing if you get to the bottom of what the issue is. Right. Like, y' all just gotta do that.
Caller/Guest
Yeah. Because I want to be friends, and I knew this dude when I was 14 years old, and, yeah, we're friends at a point.
Jess Hilarious
Absolutely.
Caller/Guest
I would love to get back to that.
Jess Hilarious
And ain't nothing like being friends and. And only strictly friends with the person that you made a child with. You. You'd rather do that than to be doing this beefing and all that, calling me and ask me how you know, telling me you don't want to be a little bitch. You know what I'm saying? Nah, you don't.
Caller/Guest
Right?
Jess Hilarious
So get back to that. Just calm down, take a breather, Talk to him. Find a mediator. Talk to him. It's all communication.
Caller/Guest
All right. Thank you so much.
Charlamagne Tha God
No problem, boo.
Ayanna Vanzant
All right.
DJ Envy
Good luck, mama. Just fix my mess. That was a co parenting edition. Now, your book is for pre order right now. It comes out April 28th.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes, indeed.
Jess Hilarious
Yep. And it's available for pre order on just hilariousofficial.com or Barnes and Nobles, Amazon, wherever you you find your books at.
Charlamagne Tha God
And it's a real book, man. It's not a coloring book.
Jess Hilarious
Okay, you did not have to say that?
Charlamagne Tha God
No, but I'm just saying some people saying that because your hand is on the front and you writing with a pen. Yeah, but it's not a coloring book and it's not.
Jess Hilarious
It's a real book.
Charlamagne Tha God
The actual chapters is 10 chapters. The premiere Mama's baby daddy's maybe terrible. Te a bird in the hand. Id you bet on yourself another one. Mama got jokes. Flag on the play. My man, my man. My man. Man is not a man.
Jess Hilarious
And then what? Don't ever play with him like that.
DJ Envy
Don't play with him.
Charlamagne Tha God
Don't play with. Play with my. This guy's crazy.
DJ Envy
But also, I want you to send me all your dates too, because people have been asking, are you gonna be, you know, going around on a book tour and signing autographs and signing people's books and I still want to get you to the mall.
Jess Hilarious
Yes, you gotta get.
DJ Envy
I want to do it big though. I want you to have your. Your messy vision wear. I want your clothes, your merch and.
Jess Hilarious
The books my black owned businesses envy.
DJ Envy
Yes, yes. So I want to get all that money, you know, because I want it to be big. So we going to get that going.
Jess Hilarious
Did you even read my book?
Charlamagne Tha God
I read the manuscript. Girl, you talking about something. Not reading.
Jess Hilarious
No, no, no. That was just a reference.
Charlamagne Tha God
I don't like you that much.
Jess Hilarious
I'm sorry.
Charlamagne Tha God
Jesus. The book had to be good. Yes, you would have read my book.
Jess Hilarious
If you didn't publish it. Don't do that. Don't even do that.
Charlamagne Tha God
Tell death to we parent. No, it is a really, really good book. And I think a lot of people are going to learn something from it, man. I really do.
Jess Hilarious
Thank you.
Charlamagne Tha God
You and Rome have a very incredible story.
Jess Hilarious
Thank you.
DJ Envy
Now, is it true that Rome is doing a disc room?
Charlamagne Tha God
Got tell Death to we parent part 2 ready to go right now. He's like, I got the audio everything. I said, you got to talk to Jess, man. I ain't got, you know, seriously trying.
Jess Hilarious
To drop like a clapback book.
Charlamagne Tha God
He said he gonna self publish. He said if not, he gonna do the movie with Alvin Gray. He said, but either way he go, his story gonna be told. Wow.
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Jess Hilarious
Listen to it without laughing. They're funny. I'm not.
Charlamagne Tha God
Wow.
Jess Hilarious
Wow.
Charlamagne Tha God
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DJ Envy
Wow.
Lauren LaRosa
All right y', all, let's get into the latest because I Have a lot to get to and I want to get to everything. Okay, look. So first up in the latest, Rich Paul. Rich Paul has this podcast for the.
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, I've been following this story. Yes.
Lauren LaRosa
Those who don't know, Rich Paul is one of the biggest agents in the game. He's LeBron's agent, Clutch Sports. Now listen. He has a podcast called Game over with Max Kellerman. The podcast is via the ringer and people are upset at him having this podcast. So it's become a thing in sports where people have these platforms, they can express thoughts, opinions, hypotheticals, all of this stuff. The issue with Rich Paul, people feel like he's on there talking about things he shouldn't be talking about because he has the influence to influence these things. One of those things are trades. Now he got on his podcast and talked about a potential trade that could happen with Austin Reeves. Let's take a listen to Rich Paul on Lakers trade.
Ayanna Vanzant
If I was the Lakers, I would probably be targeting the Memphis Grizzlies as a trade partner for Jaren Jackson. That'd be a great fit. I would. For whom? Some way, somehow I would be trying to get Jaren Jackson, maybe get back Gigi Jackson. But I think if you're building around Luca going forward, which they are, you need a guy like that, you need that anchor. And Jaren doesn't want to be a part of a rebuild. They just put Ja Morant on the market saying that they they're willing to trade him, etc. If you're able to trade out Expiring and give up the last first round pick you got, that could be one scenario or you could say, let me withhold that. But this comes with a Austin Reeves. This comes with a very unemotional attachment because Austin is beloved, which he should be.
Charlamagne Tha God
But he's about to get paid.
Ayanna Vanzant
He's an underdog. There's a world where you can do what's best for your team and do what's best for Austin. Cause Austin deserves to get paid.
Charlamagne Tha God
I've been asking myself, why is Rich Paul doing this podcast? Because as you said, Lauren, Rich is one of the biggest agents in sports. Why is he jeopardizing that with a podcast? Cause when he's talking about other players where they should be traded, I wonder how Rich would feel if other agents were publicly saying that about his clients. Not to mention he's saying saying that about teammates of one of his clients, LeBron James. That has to mess with team chemistry. If I'm Austin Reeves, I'm looking at Brian, like, what's up with your man?
Lauren LaRosa
Well, Rich Paul is saying that, you know, there shouldn't be an issue with this because it's all hypothetical. Like, he came and cleared it up once. These comments kind of rub people a little bit the wrong way. Let's take a listen to Rich Paul clearing up the Austin Reeves comments.
Charlamagne Tha God
Comments, probably not enough. Who commented on what you said, actually watched the clip, Even the full clip, Right.
Ayanna Vanzant
Including my man Reg, who happens to be Austin's agent. We talked. This is my guy. I mean, I've known him for 20 years. And he said, rich, I. I didn't. I didn't watch the shows. Okay? So we talked about it, and I'm like, look, Reg, you my man. And I want Austin to know. This is not about Austin Reeves. First of all, if you watch the show, which you should, and you watch the full take, this was a hypothetical conversation we were having. If I was running a team, not this is what's going to happen, etc. Secondly, I believe it's very complimentary to AR because he's on a team with two future hall of Famers, and he happens to be the asset.
Charlamagne Tha God
Nah, nah, nah. Rich, you said my client should be traded. If I'm Austin reeves, I'm asking LeBron, why is he talking about me being traded? It's just unnecessary noise and drama. And if I'm a player, player, would I want to sign with an agent that's stirring up all this mess?
Ayanna Vanzant
Yeah, it is.
Charlamagne Tha God
I have no idea.
DJ Envy
But I'm with you.
Lauren LaRosa
I'm like.
DJ Envy
I'm like, nah, don't talk about trading me when I know Bronze your man. Does Braun feel the same way? Does Braun not want money on this team or you talking about trading? Yeah, you said I am worth it, but, yeah, I'm with you. It. It muddies the water.
Charlamagne Tha God
It's unnecessary noise and drama. They asked Brian about it.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah, they did. So ESPN has a quote from LeBron. This was after they played the Atlanta Hawks. He says, I think you all know about by now. Rich is his own man. And what Rich says is not a direct reflection of me and how I feel. He continues, and I hope people know that. I hope people know that. And if they're. If they're not sensible enough to know that, then I don't know what to tell them.
Charlamagne Tha God
And you said this podcast is on the ringer?
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah, it is on the ringer. And so Bill Simmons, who was the owner of the Ringer, he created it, but then he sold it to Spotify. But he still heads up like a lot of their content, strategy, podcast, videos, his network. Yeah, he had to comment on it because people are basically saying this is like a whole conspiracy.
Charlamagne Tha God
Bill Simmons is a die hard Celtics fan. He put this podcast together to sabotage the Lakers.
Lauren LaRosa
Oh, my God. Let's take a listen to those. Simmons, real quick.
Ayanna Vanzant
It just did an amalgam of all.
DJ Envy
The texts I've gotten.
Ayanna Vanzant
You're an evil genius. You launched this Game over podcast with Rich, Paul and Max Garmin solely so.
DJ Envy
You could destroy the Lakers.
Ayanna Vanzant
And it's working. First of all, I would never do that as as much as I despise the Lakers, I would never use a ringer podcast to try to bring that down. That feels like bad karma. Feels like something bad would happen with the Celtics. So how dare you on that? I love it. I think this is great.
DJ Envy
We've had players like Draymond and those type of guys have started. Paul, George, Jalen Brunson, all of these.
Jess Hilarious
Guys have podcasts where they just talk.
Ayanna Vanzant
About the sport like they're fans.
DJ Envy
And now Rich is doing it, but he's the most powerful agent in the sport. I couldn't be more delighted that the ringer is involved.
Ayanna Vanzant
And if it's caused trauma for Laker fans and disarray behind the scenes, I can't say that was the intention, but.
DJ Envy
It'S a pure delight.
Charlamagne Tha God
See? See, Bill put this podcast together to sabotage the Lakers this season. Then he got accused of sabotaging the Lakers. Then did a pod telling you that he didn't do that.
DJ Envy
And I wonder if a hero owners say that, you know, our athletes and agents can't do podcasts when talking about the same sport that they represent.
Lauren LaRosa
That's a question that ESPN was posing like, what are the protocols, if there are any and will there come some from this?
Charlamagne Tha God
You know, the Ring is having a great week. Amy Polo won the first ever Golden Globe which was just Hollywood reward in Hollywood because she shouldn't have won that. And then now this situation that Bill Simmons set up.
Lauren LaRosa
Speaking of having a great week, great segue because black women been having a great week all week. We had Tiana Taylor kick it off with the Golden Globes. Issa Ray just inked that new deal development deal with Paramount. We got to see Whoopi and Oprah reunite 40 years of the Color Purple, which was such a moment. Go listen to them on the View. And then Jess, hilarious. Got some flowers on on Club Shay Shay. So Ryan, I'm sorry, Austin Davis, comedian. Ryan Davis, comedian, was talking about his social media Mount Rushmore. And he showed just a lot of love. So I want to make sure we get this clip in. Let's take a listen.
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, give me a Mount Rushmore of social media comedians. There's a lot of them out there. I'm gonna go D.C. young, fly. Okay. I'm gonna go me Kevin on stage. I'mma go Jess. Hilarious. Okay, Jess. Hilarious. She was amazing. I had Jess on. She's amazing. We talking about going from that to doing national sold out tours, doing the sitcom with rail. Now on one of the highest syndicated radio shows, Breakfast Club in the world. The highest. Who did it like that. So, yeah, that's the. That's the Mount Rush, right? More right now. I like that.
Jess Hilarious
Shout out to Ryan Davis. Yo, I love Ryan.
Charlamagne Tha God
I would add one person to that. I don't know if you can. Is he considered a comedian? King Batch is. King Batch.
Jess Hilarious
Consider King Batch is. I love King Batch. I think he's. I don't think he have.
Lauren LaRosa
I've never heard him call himself.
Jess Hilarious
No, he does. Like he does.
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay, well, maybe not then.
DJ Envy
What's his name?
Jess Hilarious
He's an actor, though. He does acts and stuff.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah. Country way. Is a comedian.
Lauren LaRosa
King Batch.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
Jess Hilarious
King Batch. Yes.
Lauren LaRosa
I think he also started a lot of the.
Jess Hilarious
Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
But I think he's talking about stand up. So.
Jess Hilarious
Yeah, stand ups.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
Jess Hilarious
But yo, shout out to. Can we drop a clues bomb for Ryan Davis?
Ayanna Vanzant
My bad.
Lauren LaRosa
Ryan, I'm sorry. I was still thinking about Austin Reeves. You know, the sports had the girl in a little tizzy.
Jess Hilarious
It's okay. And he got his special was out too, so y' all need to watch it. It's called underrated. If y' all haven't yet.
DJ Envy
It was dope, though. If you watch the full Cliff. He was like, yeah, like Jess. He was like, yeah, just Larry. Like y'.
Ayanna Vanzant
All.
DJ Envy
Y' all seem cool.
Jess Hilarious
Yeah, that's my guy.
DJ Envy
And you deserve to be up there. And that is the latest.
Charlamagne Tha God
Seem surprised that somebody cool with Jess.
DJ Envy
Just so we know that comedians.
Charlamagne Tha God
Remember her, but she don't be remembering people.
Jess Hilarious
She remembered his name.
Lauren LaRosa
I. I messed it up. But she remembered it this time.
Charlamagne Tha God
But you got head trauma, so we expect. Excuse me.
DJ Envy
The People's choice mixes up next.
Lauren LaRosa
You be sitting over there looking like a thumb.
Mimi Brown
Leave me alone.
DJ Envy
It's the Breakfast Club.
Charlamagne Tha God
Good morning, everybody.
DJ Envy
It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We have to salute to Ayana Banzan for joining us this morning.
Charlamagne Tha God
Man. Salute to Ayana, man. She has A new TV show out.
DJ Envy
Called the Inside Fix.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, and it's dope because she's basically going back and talking to all the people that she had on Fix Me My Life and seeing where. Where are they now? So that's really dope. But man, she's got a book out called Spiritual Hygiene, A Practical Path for Clean Living, Inner Authority and Divine Freedom. I think it is a must read for anybody who likes self help books, man, because boy, some of y' all souls dirty. Okay.
Jess Hilarious
She told me I had lady balls.
DJ Envy
That was for yourself.
Charlamagne Tha God
Because he was like, what?
DJ Envy
What do you mean? And she was like, yeah, she does.
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay. All right.
DJ Envy
Picks up fast. And then all. Also salute to all the nurses out there on strike. One called in this morning and talked about the strike. So we're trying to set it up so we can actually go out there and DJ and support them while they're out there online striking just to get benefits, just to get some of the just simple things that they would need to work. So salute to all the nurses out there on the front line. Where you at this weekend, Jess?
Jess Hilarious
I'm in Columbus, Ohio tomorrow and this Saturday get your tickets if you haven't yet. Jessalarious official dot com. Guys, it's almost sold out. Actually, Saturday is sold out. Friday, we still got some tickets available to snatch up, guys. Then next weekend, Birmingham, Alabama, I'll be in Stardome for two days. We got four shows. So get your tickets if you have not yet for that as well. And also do not forget to pre order while you on my website. Pre order my book, Till Death do We Parent.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes, indeed. Make sure you go do that right now. It is a real freaking book, all right? It's not a coloring book, you know. It's not a children's book. It is a book about Jess. Hilarious co parent parenting with her baby father, Rome. Okay? So make sure you go pre order it right now.
DJ Envy
Yo, you got a positive note.
Charlamagne Tha God
I do have a positive note, man. And it's from one of my favorite authors. His name is Gay Hendricks. Gay Hendrix wrote a book that I really love called the Big Leap. I've read it quite a few times and you should too. But one thing that he says in the Big Leap, he says a successful life is an authentic life. Happiness and creativity rest on a foundation of transparency to yourself and others. Knowing your own heart and speaking clearly to others will keep you on the right path. Have a great day. Breakfast Club bitches.
DJ Envy
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Date: January 15, 2026
Hosts: DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God
Guests: Iyanla Vanzant, Lauren LaRosa (News/Guest Host)
This lively episode blends music news, pop culture, community issues, and practical life advice, featuring notable guests and candid discussions. Highlights include the announcement of J. Cole’s highly anticipated album “The Fall Off,” insightful takes on co-parenting from Jess Hilarious, updates on high-profile legal drama, a deeply personal conversation with Iyanla Vanzant about healing and spiritual hygiene, and trending sports controversies. Listeners are treated to honest debates, relatable call-ins, and plenty of signature Breakfast Club banter.
"How far does ICE and the federal government think they can push people before people push back?" – Charlamagne Tha God ([10:46])
"What type of country do we live in when nurses who care for our health don't have health care?" – Charlamagne Tha God ([33:14])
([63:16–68:36])
"Thank God you got the opportunity to clap those colored cheeks. ... God gave you the opportunity to taste that Nubian nectar.” – Charlamagne Tha God ([65:17])
([77:25–88:53])
"You can't really change that ... unless you do go to the courts, because they still are helping. Technically, it's still help from his side." – Jess Hilarious ([79:04])
([38:25–61:36])
"People brush their teeth every day and go years without an examination of their own thoughts. They got fungus in their mind." – Iyanla Vanzant ([49:52])
"Lady balls don’t come from the crotch. They come from the heart." – Iyanla Vanzant ([43:55])
"Don’t set yourself on fire to keep other people warm." – Iyanla Vanzant ([55:41])
([94:02–99:03])
"Why is Rich Paul doing this podcast? ... If I'm Austin Reeves, I'm looking at Brian, like, what's up with your man?" – Charlamagne Tha God ([95:34])
"Co-parenting is not easy, babe. But I’m telling you, it can be a very beautiful thing if you get to the bottom of what the issue is." ([88:03])
"What’s the point of signing to a label, putting out this good-ass music if we not even going to know nothing about it?" ([05:15])
"Tell the truth. One of the reasons our relationships are dying and drying up is because we lie about everything." ([48:06])
"A leader has to have a heart. Heart for people. Another thing is a vision." ([46:31])
"Society really has a flawed dependency on technology. We saw that yesterday when Verizon went down... People will lose their minds." ([71:43])
"We’re trying to set it up so we can actually go out there and DJ and support them while they’re out there online striking just to get benefits..." ([103:02])
This episode masterfully combines timely headlines, deep self-empowerment advice, classic culture commentary, and real talk from both hosts and listeners. Iyanla Vanzant’s presence elevates the conversation about emotional health, while J. Cole’s announcement and the Rich Paul controversy stoke passionate debate. As always, The Breakfast Club delivers laughter, hard truths, and plenty for the audience to take away.
“A successful life is an authentic life. Happiness and creativity rest on a foundation of transparency to yourself and others.”
— Gay Hendricks (The Big Leap), quoted by Charlamagne in the Positive Note ([104:09]).