FULL SHOW: Ja Rule Claps Back at 50 Cent, Gayle King’s Space Trip, Chris & Karrueche Reunite, Vybz Kartel Gets OVO Chain + Joe Tacopina, Wendy Williams & Mel Robbins Interviews

Summary

The Breakfast Club Podcast Episode Summary Release Date: April 14, 2025

Hosts: DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God, with Special Guest Mel Robbins

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I. Introduction and Hosts' Weekend Recap

The episode kicks off with DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, and Charlamagne Tha God exchanging greetings and discussing their recent weekend activities. DJ Envy shares his experience attending a Vybz Kartel concert at Barclays Center in Brooklyn, highlighting the vibrant Jamaican atmosphere and special guest appearances by Busta Rhymes and Buju Banton.

Notable Quote:

• DJ Envy [03:01]: "Friday night took me every bit of 2 hours and 45 minutes to get there. It was so many people out there."

Charlamagne Tha God mentions spending a peaceful weekend with family, contrasting his experience with DJ Envy's bustling night out.

II. Front Page News: Trump's Health, Tariffs, and Deportations

Lauren LaRosa introduces the front-page news segment, focusing on President Donald Trump's recent health checkup and the administration's stance on tariffs.

Key Points:

• Trump's Health: The White House physician, Sean Barabella, declared Trump in "excellent cognitive and physical health" ([07:28]). Trump echoed this sentiment aboard Air Force One, boasting about his cognitive exam scores.

  Notable Quote:

  • Trump [07:28]: "The numbers were perfect and I took a cognitive exam and I would challenge anybody here to beat those marks because I have a perfect mark."

• Tariffs Discussion: Peter Navarro defends the administration's tariffs, claiming they are effective in pushing countries to negotiate fair trade practices. Conversely, Senator Elizabeth Warren criticizes the tariffs for harming the U.S. economy and calls for investigations into potential insider trading by Trump associates.

  Notable Quotes:

  • Peter Navarro [08:20]: "We've got 90 deals in 90 days, possibly pending."

  • Senator Elizabeth Warren [09:07]: "Investors will not invest in the United States when Donald Trump is playing red light, green light with tariffs."

• Supreme Court and Deportation Case: The episode discusses a Supreme Court ruling mandating the return of Kilmar Abrego Garcia, a Maryland man wrongfully deported to El Salvador. Despite the ruling, the Trump administration delays his return, leading to ongoing legal battles.

  Notable Quote:

  • Harley Quinn Smith [09:53]: "Trump cannot commit crimes. He has presidential immunity."

III. Caller Interactions: Family, Positivity, and Mental Health

The hosts open the phone lines for listeners to share their thoughts and experiences. A caller, Yousef, praises the hosts for their dedication to family and managing their public personas without prioritizing family over everything else ([11:40]-[13:43]).

Another caller discusses the economic impact of tariffs and shares their perspective on President Trump's policies ([14:23]-[15:03]).

Mental Health Focus:

• A caller shares their struggle with mental health following personal losses, prompting Harley Quinn Smith to direct them to mentalwealthalliance.org for support ([19:44]-[20:27]).

IV. Celebrity Feuds: Ja Rule vs. 50 Cent

Charlamagne Tha God delves into the long-standing feud between Ja Rule and 50 Cent. The discussion covers recent escalations where Ja Rule accused 50 Cent of perpetuating violence through his appearance on "The Breakfast Club" and their subsequent exchanges on social media.

Key Points:

• Ja Rule's Accusations: Ja Rule criticizes 50 Cent's behavior and music, labeling him as "trash."

  Notable Quote:

  • Ja Rule [21:58]: "The Breakfast Club should be ashamed of themselves asking questions that perpetuate violence."

• 50 Cent's Response: While 50 Cent has yet to respond directly, DJ Envy and the hosts speculate on potential future exchanges.

• Historical Context: Charlamagne Tha God likens their feud to legendary rivalries like Cowboys vs. Redskins, emphasizing its never-ending nature ([29:28]-[30:00]).

V. News: Gayle King’s Space Trip

Charlamagne Tha God announces that Gayle King will be part of the first all-woman crew to go to space in nearly six decades, aboard Blue Origin's spacecraft. The crew includes notable figures like Katy Perry and Lauren Sanchez.

Notable Quote:

• Charlamagne Tha God [30:59]: "I've been thinking about this today. I just asked Charlotte, like, would y'all ever go to space?"

VI. Event Recaps: Vybz Kartel’s Performance and Coachella 2025

Vybz Kartel’s Comeback: Charlamagne Tha God reports on Vybz Kartel's historic return to New York, marking his first headlining show in over 20 years. The concert was met with overwhelming enthusiasm, selling out the Barclays Center and earning praise from Billboard.

Notable Quote:

• Charlamagne Tha God [70:05]: "Billboard is actually calling this show... one of the most memorable nights of live music in the Barclays storied history."

Coachella 2025 Highlights: The hosts discuss the standout performances at Coachella, including Missy Elliott's transformative stage act and Meg Thee Stallion's empowering "girl power" theme. They highlight the emotional moments and the impact of these performances on fans and attendees.

Notable Quote:

• Charlamagne Tha God [71:10]: "She's been preparing this set since November 2024. He wanted to give Vibes a big welcome home gift."

VII. Guest Segment: Mel Robbins on "Let Them Theory"

Introduction: Mel Robbins joins the show to discuss her new book, "Let Them Theory." The conversation centers around the core message of the book: letting go of the need to control others and focusing on personal peace and well-being.

Key Points:

• Persistence and Patience: Mel emphasizes the importance of consistent, small efforts over time to achieve success.

  Notable Quote:

  • Mel Robbins [42:36]: "It's about consistent small moves, being patient."

• Understanding Imposter Syndrome: She redefines imposter syndrome as a form of ambition rather than mere self-doubt, encouraging listeners to embrace their desire to succeed.

  Notable Quote:

  • Mel Robbins [62:05]: "Imposter syndrome is actually not self-doubt, it's ambition."

• Practical Application: Mel discusses how adopting the "Let Them" mindset can reduce stress and improve mental health by detaching from others' opinions and focusing on personal growth.

  Notable Quote:

  • Mel Robbins [54:46]: "You can't control how people feel... focus on your own peace and well-being."

Audience Interaction: Listeners share how they've applied the "Let Them Theory" in their lives, ranging from overcoming personal struggles to improving professional relationships. Mel provides encouragement and practical advice on implementing the theory effectively.

Notable Quote:

• Mel Robbins [56:30]: "The only thing you need to make your life better is one decision: how you're living your life right now and how it feels no longer works for you."

VIII. Final Sections and Conclusion

The hosts wrap up the episode by reiterating the impact of Mel Robbins' "Let Them Theory" and encouraging listeners to engage with the book and podcast. They remind the audience of upcoming events, such as the Black Effect Podcast Festival, and promote ongoing segments like "Donkey of the Day."

Closing Remarks:

• Harley Quinn Smith [82:12]: "That's right. You can't control other people. I tell y'all all the time, we wake up every single day and all we're trying to do is avoid crazy."

The episode concludes with multiple advertisements interspersed throughout, which were omitted from this summary as per instructions.

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Summary Highlights:

• Weekend Activities: Hosts share personal experiences, highlighting family and entertainment events.
• Political News: Comprehensive coverage of President Trump's health, tariff policies, and deportation cases.
• Celebrity Feuds: In-depth discussion of the ongoing rivalry between Ja Rule and 50 Cent.
• Significant Events: Announcements about Gayle King's space trip and detailed recaps of Vybz Kartel’s concert and Coachella 2025 performances.
• Guest Insight: Mel Robbins provides valuable strategies for personal growth and stress management through her "Let Them Theory."

Notable Quotes with Timestamps:

• DJ Envy [03:01]: "Friday night took me every bit of 2 hours and 45 minutes to get there."
• Trump [07:28]: "The numbers were perfect and I took a cognitive exam..."
• Mel Robbins [56:30]: "The only thing you need to make your life better is one decision..."
• Charlamagne Tha God [71:10]: "She's been preparing this set since November 2024."
• Harley Quinn Smith [82:12]: "You can't control other people..."

This summary encapsulates the multifaceted discussions and key moments from the episode, providing a comprehensive overview for those who have not listened to the podcast.

Transcript

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[DJ Envy]

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[Lauren LaRosa]

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[Kevin Smith]

Hey, kids, it's me, Kevin Smith. And it's me, Harley Quinn Smith.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

That's my daughter, man. Who my wife has always said is.

[Kevin Smith]

Just a beardless dickless version of me.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

And that's the name of our podcast. Beardless Me.

[Kevin Smith]

I'm the old one, I'm the young one. And every week we try to make each other laugh really hard.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Sounds innocent, doesn't it?

[Kevin Smith]

A lot of cussing, a lot of bad language. It's for adults only.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Or listen to it with your kid.

[Kevin Smith]

Could be a family show. We're not quite sure. We're still figuring it out. It's a work in progress.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Listen to Beardless me on the iHeartRadio.

[Kevin Smith]

App, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[DJ Envy]

Good morning usa.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Yo, yo yo yo yo yo yo. Yo yo yo yo. Yo. Yo, yo yo yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo.

[DJ Envy]

Jess is out. What up? Lauren Laros.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Good morning, y'all.

[DJ Envy]

Charlamagne Tha God.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Peace to the planet. It's Monday. Good morning. How y'all feel out there? I feel blessed. Black and highly favored. Happy to be here another day to serve our beautiful listeners. What's happening?

[DJ Envy]

That's right. Good morning. Hopefully you had a great weekend. How was your weekend?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, mine, My weekend was. I chill with family. I just. Yeah, I didn't do. I didn't work all the way.

[DJ Envy]

You chilled?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I chilled. I had a great weekend.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, I had a very busy weekend. It started off off Friday night, date night with the wife. I took out to see Vibes Cartel.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, you was in the mix.

[DJ Envy]

What, what now? The Barclays, which is located in Brooklyn, is where the Brooklyn Nets play, where the Liberty plays. It usually takes you about an hour to get there from the crib.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right.

[DJ Envy]

Friday night took me every bit of 2 hours and 45 minutes to get there. It was so many people out there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Was it worth it? It looked like it.

[DJ Envy]

Well, you know what it is, so, you know. Of course it was worth it. I had a great time. I don't know every single record, but my wife is part Jamaican, so that is her thing. So she rocked out the whole night. But when. I mean, they turn Brooklyn into, like, Jamaica Jamaica. They had, like, the jerk chicken trucks outside of PC. PC and Richard, they had the jerk chicken trucks outside the library. They had the jerk chicken trucks everywhere.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

You people in Houston know what the hell you talking about? Could you be a little bit more descriptive?

[DJ Envy]

But what part?

[Kevin Smith]

I don't know.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

What are you talking about?

[DJ Envy]

I just said Vibes Cartels concert.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

They don't know where PC Riches is at. They don't know what you just.

[DJ Envy]

So PC Riches is a place that sell electronics. They don't sell PC Riches downtown.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

I don't know.

[DJ Envy]

He don't know. But they. It's an electric spot. So they had jerk chicken spots everywhere. So that was amazing. He brought out Busta Rhymes on Friday. He bought out Buju Ban Town on Friday. So an amazing show. Great, great, great, great show. And then Saturday, the professional soccer team that plays New York City, I took my son to the game, and he was able to start the game. You know how in each city, you go push a button to start the game? You ring the bell or something like that? So he's able to push the button to start the game. So it was a big family fun weekend. So salute the Vibes Cartel and the New York City Football Club for having us. Had a great time, great time this weekend.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Salute to everybody I saw in Baltimore, man. I was in Baltimore, Maryland all weekend. Jess hometown for my daughter's cheerleading competition. And right now I'm wearing a hoodie from Nick's Fish House. Okay, okay. Nick's Fish House is a spot I went to in Baltimore.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It was that good. You took the merch with you.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Well, you know what? They showed me a lot of love. Salute to Carly. You know, you know, when you be out of town, you know, you might hit people up and ask them where to go or you might go on Google and see where the best restaurants are. And I just went on Google and, you know, Nick's Fish House came up and I just went there just to go eat. And the owner there, Karlie, man, dropping the clues bombs for Karlie. She wasn't even there, but when she heard I was there, she. They showed a lot of love to me and my family. So thank you, Karlie, and thank you, everybody at Nick's Fish House. And they gave me this hoodie to wear. So when people give me merch to wear, you know what I mean, I want to support. So yeah, I wore it.

[DJ Envy]

So salute to Nick's Fish House.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Well, today on the show, Mel Robbins will be joining us.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Oh, my God, I love Mel Robbins. Dropping the clues bombs for Mel Robbins. I just did her podcast last week, the Mel Robbins Podcast, one of the number one podcasts in the country. And you know, she has a great book out right now that I've been telling everybody is a must read. If you have not read the let them theory. If you've not listened to the let them theory, you need to. It's described as a life changing tool that millions of people can' I guess I'm one of those millions of people.

[DJ Envy]

That's right. So we're going to kick. Kicking in with Mel Robbins in a little bit. And then we got front page news. Morgan Wood will be joining us. So don't go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Morning, everybody.

[DJ Envy]

It's DJ Envy Jess. Hilarious Charlemagne, the guy. We are the breakfast club. Lon LaRosa filling in for Jess.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

You know what else I realized about Baltimore? What? And I wish Jess was here to talk about this. They really do call everybody shorty in Baltimore. The guys even be called.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's your first Baltimore people I ain't never heard.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Maybe I ain't never pay no attention. But when a man call you shorty That's a little.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And they say O R D. Yo, Charlotte.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

What up, Uncle Charlotte? What up, shorty?

[DJ Envy]

He thought he was talking about his height.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

I didn't know what they was talking about.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They say that like how? We just say like, yo, like it's just like their thing.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Oh, well, another man, shorty.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But they don't say like shorty. It's like shorty. It's like, I don't care.

[DJ Envy]

Actually, we gotta keep getting some front page news. Now, April 19, the NBA playoffs begin. I don't know what team you rooting for. It looks like Cleveland looks pretty good and so does okc, but I'm going for the Knicks. This is what it is. All right. What up, Morgan?

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Hey, y'all.

[Lauren LaRosa]

What up, show? What up, Lord? What up, Demi? That's usually what it's, you know, the Baltimore League, definitely. And I don't know that you put a ty a DY on. It's usually sure or low that which is like short for shorty or little. But, you know, I'm not gonna get too much into that. Jessica. Speak more to that later. First up on front page, President Trump is said to be in excellent health following his annual checkup on Friday. White House physician Sean Barabella described Trump's neurological condition as robust in a memo released on Sunday. Overall, it said the 78 year old commander in chief was found to be in excellent cognitive and physical health. Barbella noted that Trump is 6 foot 3 and weighs 224 pounds. He concluded by saying the president is fully fit to execute his duties in office. And the president actually spoke to reporters on Sunday aboard Air Force One. And here's what he had to say in regards to his checkup. Let's take a listen.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

The numbers were perfect and I took a cognitive exam and I would challenge anybody here to beat those marks because I have a perfect mark. Were you impressed by that?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Are you impressed by that? All right. So the president is in good health. So the White House press, excuse me, White House physician says. In other news, let's talk tariffs. A top adviser to President Trump says the administration's tariffs are working. Appearing on NBC's Meet the Press, Peter Navarro pushed back against concerns the White House didn't have a plan for implementing tariffs. Tariffs saying they were issued with a specific goal in mind. Let's take a listen to what that goal is. Peter Navarro.

[Kevin Smith]

So that's what we said. Knowing full well. Knowing full well that a lot of countries would come right to us and want to bargain. We've got 90 deals in 90 days, possibly pending.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah. So we insisted the tariffs are working as designed as and have already pushed many countries to come to the negotiating table when it comes to the US Now, Navarro went on to say the Trump administration is working to fix unfair trading practices that keep US Goods out of foreign markets. Navarro also insisted relationships, his relationship with Elon Musk is great, despite the fact that they have, you know, had that little exchange before where he called Musk or where Musk called him a. On the other side of the aisle, Senator Elizabeth Warren says President Trump's tariffs are hurting the US Economy. She made those comments on CNN State of the Union saying the uncertainty around how the tariffs will be enforced is stopping companies from actually making investments in this country. Let's take a listen to Senator Elizabeth Warren.

[Kevin Smith]

Investors will not invest in the United States when Donald Trump is playing red light, green light with tariffs. And it's entirely appropriate to have an investigation to make sure that Donald Trump, Donald Trump's family, Donald Trump's inner circle, didn't get advance information and trade on that information.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So Warren, who serves on the Senate Banking Committee, also renewed calls for an investigation, as you heard in the audio, into possible insider training, saying Trump may have committed a crime by telling allies to buy stocks shortly before announcing the tariff pause. Any announcement caused stock prices to improve drastically. Excuse me, to improve dramatically after days of losses.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Trump cannot commit crimes. He has presidential immunity. All he has to do is say that it was some type of official act and the Supreme Court will say, hey, it wasn't a crime that he committed. Why do we keep acting like we forgot that he got granted presidential immunity?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know.

[Lauren LaRosa]

The Supreme Court is seeming to take case by case. So we will see. What.

[DJ Envy]

Please, Morgan, so the tariffs working or not? Because, you know, one side they said it working, on the other side they say they're not. But, you know, numbers are everything. Are they working?

[Lauren LaRosa]

So when it comes to the numbers, I mean, prices are up for us right now. But, you know, that's the whole point is that supposedly these countries are going to be coming to the negotiating table to make sure that trade is more fair in, in the United States as well as wherever these countries are abroad. But the whole thing is supposedly we're not going to know until about 90 days. But then again, he put the 90 day pause. So it's hard to tell, to be honest. You know, we'll see. It's a, it's a wait and we'll see type of situation that we're in right now, regarding tariffs and also, Morgan.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

I know you probably gonna talk about it next aisle, but, you know, the Supreme Court told Donald Trump to do something last week, which is bringing the brother back from Maryland. And they told the Supreme Court smd. Well, well, that's what Trump administration told the Supreme Court smd.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what they say at first.

[Lauren LaRosa]

But, you know, in true Trump fashion, he has changed his. Changed his mind. And there's an update on that.

[DJ Envy]

All right, we'll do that next hour. Everybody else, get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, phone lines are wide open. 800-585-1051 is the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

This is your time to get it off your chest.

[DJ Envy]

800-585-1051.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club.

[DJ Envy]

Hello?

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Who's this? Go.

[Caller]

Good morning, DJ the Envy. What's going on, bro? This is you. Step by the Rose jersey.

[DJ Envy]

What up, Yousef? Get it off your chest, brother.

[Caller]

Well, this one I wanted to call quick, just give you some love. You know, I saw you. You posted the pictures of you and your son at the soccer match or whatever, and you always doing that. You know, I really love seeing black bombers who geek out over their kids. You know, enough of us don't do that. And, you know, I. I myself happen to be the father of the three best sons in the world. I feel like every father should feel that way about it, about his son named his daughters. I know how Charlamagne always spending time with his daughters. You know, everything they took it, they said going on. You guys never, ever put your family second. I love and appreciate that. Charlemagne.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Yes, sir. Thank you.

[Caller]

Peace, my brother. How are you?

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Peace. King. What's the word?

[Caller]

I was, you know, I was vibing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was.

[Caller]

I was out there. You know, I had my eyes peeled. I never saw that, my brother. You know, we had the conversation on Friday. I know you had to do about you watching my trailer, sir.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Oh, shoot. No, I didn't get a chance to watch it.

[Caller]

Yes, sir. Yes, sir. He missed the show. Money on Instagram.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Tag me in it real quick on IG so I can find it real quick.

[Caller]

I can't. I. Okay, hold on. Tag you right now.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Yeah, my Instagram is C to God, C T H A G O D.

[Caller]

Weekend.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

And I was just doing the shout out for those who don't know so I can get some new followers. That's all.

[Caller]

Okay. So what I'm gonna do is I'M I'm attack you right now. But listen, all I want to do is pitch to one of your people. I know you too busy. Got a lot going on when you see it, you know, I'm tell you right now though, but. DJ Envy.

[DJ Envy]

Yes, sir.

[Caller]

But I really, really, really want to know that. I really appreciate how you are with the kids or whatever and how you especially young fathers, how you can be having all this going on at the end of the day, dad is your number one job, bro. Big up on that.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Absolutely.

[DJ Envy]

Have a great time doing it too.

[Caller]

One last thing, Envy. Release Navidad.

[DJ Envy]

I don't know what that means, sir.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

You know what that means.

[DJ Envy]

I don't know what that means. Happy birthday to you too, sir.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Oh, Lauren, is there long?

[Caller]

What's up, Lauren?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, good morning.

[Caller]

Good morning. And listen, they be, listen, they be on you. I don't like that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Don't say they be jumping you.

[Caller]

Listen, listen, your time is your time. And listen, you don't want Mr. Right now. You want Mr. Right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Thank you.

[Caller]

I mean, you know, I appreciate that, but show the man.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Yes, sir.

[DJ Envy]

We gotta go you soon.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Okay. Appreciate you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why you ain't letting me say period? You had to. Come on, city girl.

[DJ Envy]

You was letting him go.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was trying to hear what he was saying.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Jesus.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So bad when I'm getting some love.

[DJ Envy]

Hello, who's this?

[Caller]

This is Van Blue.

[DJ Envy]

Van Blue, what's up? Get it off your chest.

[Caller]

Hey, I just wanted to give y'all a shout out real quick. Good morning, happy Monday. And I just kind of want to touch on those tariffs that you alluded to earlier with Donald Trump. I think it's important right now for what he's doing because a lot of people are, you know, worried about the short term, uh, prices, uh, increasing and things like that. But you're basically in bed with the enemy. And if you ask anybody with common sense if it's okay to be in bed with the enemy, most people will tell you no. And the tariffs against all countries are basically to avoid China from sending their products to those countries to exploit free trade agreement with those countries.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Listen, I hope that the long term, I hope there is a long term plan to this and I hope it does work out. I'm not sitting here rooting against it. But, you know, when we talk about, you know, for the moment, people having some pain, you do realize those moments can kill people, right? Like people really can't afford to live. Like that's just a fact. There's a great, I don't know if y'all watched Black Mirror, but I watched the episode of Black Mirror yesterday that Tracee Ellis Ross is in.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Is that the one that Issa Rae was just into?

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Well, Issa Rae is not in that episode, but it's an anthology series. But Tracee Ellis Ross is in it. And it's literally an episode about how a person. About how a couple cannot afford to live. That I'm not gonna tell you no more than that, but that's literally what it's about. Some people cannot afford to live. And they have to make a choice on whether or not to stay alive or die simply because they can't afford to live.

[DJ Envy]

Well, get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

The Breakfast Club.

[DJ Envy]

Ray.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Ray. Ray, Yo. Charlamagne, Envy, what up?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Are we live?

[Harley Quinn Smith]

This is your time to get it off your chest.

[DJ Envy]

I got an indoor pool.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Hear from you on the Breakfast Club.

[DJ Envy]

We can get on the phone right now. He'll tell you what it is. Hello? Who's this?

[Caller]

Yo, this Chris.

[DJ Envy]

Chris, what up? Get it off your chest, man.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

I want to pick up vibes.

[Caller]

Cartel, man. He came, did his thing in Brooklyn, man. That was nice, man. I live in Florida, though, but, man, I'm Jamaican, and just to see that, that's. That's big for the culture, man.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, you didn't go to the show? You just. You just check it in.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cause that's big, man.

[Caller]

You know what I'm saying? Jamaican. And just for the dance out community, man. That's big.

[DJ Envy]

You know, everybody came together. No incidents, no problems. It was a great show. He's gonna be out there soon.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

I think he's got a Miami concert.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, he got a Miami concert in Fort Lauderdale concert coming up. So you definitely gotta check that.

[Caller]

Yeah, yeah, for sure, man. Big up the vibe.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Actually, It's April. No, May 17th. He'll be in Sunrise, Florida.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah. So definitely check him out. Great show. Hello? Who's this?

[Caller]

Hey, good morning. This is Shay.

[DJ Envy]

Hey, Shay. Get it off your chest.

[Caller]

So this is a request for Charlamagne. I'm requesting that you stop giving black people donkey of the day.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

That's impossible. That would be discrimination. Donkey of the day does not discriminate.

[Caller]

Exactly. But that's what we do now. We've gotten rid of De and I practices, so let's stop giving black people donkey of the day.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

That would be stupid. Donkey. Today does not discriminate black people. Get Donkey. White people get donkey. Asians get donkey. That's why we do guess what race it is like. No.

[Caller]

Yeah. And I feel like it shines a very negative spotlight on black people. We've already got enough negativity on us. Why do we have to spread. Well, not we, but why do you have to spread the love and give it to different races when there's enough foolery going on amongst other communities?

[Harley Quinn Smith]

The fact that you even. Here's the thing, right? Are you gonna stop talking about black people, period? When you see a trending topic and is somebody, you know getting jumped on social media for whatever, are you going to not chime in?

[Caller]

Well, I really don't chime in anyway.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Oh, you really don't? No. You have to stop, period. That means that if you want me to stop giving black people donkey today, then you can't ever speak ill about black people in any way, shape or form, even if they do something stupid. That don't make no sense. Right.

[Caller]

I don't do it on. No, I don't do that online.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Yeah.

[Caller]

I don't speak negative about black people.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

I don't think it's. I don't think it's speaking negative to state the obvious. And please don't make. Don't make donkey of the day a race thing. Okay? Donkey today is a about giving people the credit they deserve for being stupid.

[DJ Envy]

Well, thank you, Shay. Hello? Who's this?

[Caller]

Hey, it's Nicole calling from the 843.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Hey, Nicole, what part of the 843 you calling from?

[Caller]

I'm from Georgetown, but I'm leaving most.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Corner telling me, hey, what you got? You got a little. You got a little boo out there.

[Caller]

Don't do that. I got a little job out there.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Oh, a little job. Okay, okay, okay. All right, so.

[Caller]

Good morning, guys.

[DJ Envy]

Good morning.

[Caller]

Good morning, Lauren.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Good morning.

[Caller]

I want to congratulate you on your book. Sophisticated version. I like that for you.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

She said what? Oh, thank you.

[Caller]

It's, you know, John and Kate plus eight Charlemagne.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Oh, I thought you talking about Laura. I was like, huh.

[DJ Envy]

The book comes out tomorrow. Real life, real family. But thank you. Have you got it yet? Well, have you ordered it? Pre ordered.

[Caller]

I got the other one. So I am wrong with this next one.

[DJ Envy]

Okay. You got real life, real love.

[Caller]

I got Charlamagne books too. Lauren, I do want to say congratulations on your podcast. I love you. I love that for you. And I wanted to mention when you was on college team and he. You said you wanted to know, like why you were so Important. And he said, it's your time. That's why you're here. It is your season, and I want you to bask in that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, thank you.

[Caller]

You're welcome. Charlamagne. I called a few months ago. I called right before Christmas, and I told you guys that, you know, my mom, my sister, and my brother had died all within four months. I forgot to mention that I went to therapy, and you were the reason.

Why I went to therapy.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, dope.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Oh, man, that's dope. I'm glad that. Are you still in there, or you just went for a little bit?

[Caller]

The insurance ran out, so I'm not in there anymore, but I will go back.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Well, listen, go to mentalwealthalliance.org that's my. That's my. That's my mental health nonprofit. And, you know, we have opportunities for you to receive, like, free therapy and free grief grief counseling.

[Caller]

Okay, I'll do that.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Yeah. Go to mentalwealthalliance.org all right.

[Caller]

I hope you guys have a great week.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

You too. Sending you nothing but positive energy, love, and light.

[DJ Envy]

Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. Now. We got the latest for Lauren coming up.

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

Y'all decided some trouble? There's already trouble here, but y'all just stirred the pot. 50 cent in Ja rule.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Girl, that's boiling hot.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Y'all reheated it for the guest?

[Harley Quinn Smith]

No, we did not. It never cooled off. Anybody that thinks it cools off ain't paying attention. You must be 12.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We gonna talk about it.

[DJ Envy]

All right.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

That's like Tom and Jerry. That beef is up forever. Forever.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I had to mute my tweets. I tweeted like, is this gonna go on forever? I had to mute the tweets.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Yes, it is.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, you don't know your history.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I do talk about it. We'll get into it. Y'all save it.

[DJ Envy]

All right. We'll get into that. Next. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

The Breakfast Club.

[DJ Envy]

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Jess. Hilarious. Charlamagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Let's get to the latest with Lauren. Lauren becoming a straight face. She gets them from somebody that knows.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Somebody who gets the details.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm the homegirl that knows a little about everything.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

She be having the latest on the Latest with Lauren LaRosa. Sometimes you have facts. Sometimes you have details. Sometimes you have a little bit everything. Well, it's the latest on the breakfast club.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So Ja Rule and 50 Cent are going. Well, I Would say back and forth. But 50 Cent hasn't fully responded to Ja Rule yet. But he did respond to the fact that Ja Rule was on the Breakfast Club. And we had a conversation with him about 50 and a few things. Let's take a listen to Ja Rule in about Breakfast Club.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

You know, I see some of the things that he gets involved in. This, this fuse on something like. Like grow up. You know what I'm saying? Like, when I see the things that he does and you know, he did the earth smoking or nothing, you know, I'm like, how do you feel about that? You saw it. Of course. Nobody likes all this goofy, but it's goofy. You know what I'm saying? So I'm like, I'm not pre. Said it best because I was hot. You know what I'm saying?

[Caller]

I was hot.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

I was. I was ready to go nuclear. So I spoke to Prem anyway, and Prem said, yo, he said, you know.

[DJ Envy]

Rule, he said, here's.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

You gotta understand about who we are and what we are. Said we are masters of self defense. I said, because I'm not. I'm. I'm. I don't want to start trouble, make trouble with people. But if we gotta get into it, make it, oh, I'll. I'll end it. I'll put it to where it go. I'll take it to the next, you know. So that's why I'm like, you know what? That is the. The best description of what I am and who I am as a man.

[DJ Envy]

That I could ever think about.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. So after the video started to make the rounds, 50 Cent posted to his Instagram and then deleted it. It was a screenshot of Ja Rule sitting in the seat here at the Breakfast Club. And the caption said, the Breakfast Club should be ashamed of themselves asking questions that perpetuate violence. This fool has been getting ready to go what he calls nuclear for 22 years. Laugh out loud. Your man in my runts right now. So after this, what is runs Blunt raps, right? Yeah, it's like, you know, the. The lions be like smoking on your homie that. So then Ja Rule got on Twitter or X and decided to respond. He said he had a day off from tour, so he had time, and then he just started going off. So he told 50 that until 50 does something to the people that shot him, he can't troll no more. Go handle your business like a champ. He told him the smd. He called him the B word. He said, he already ate your. He already ate his lunch, so shut Up. Then someone said, somebody responded to Ja Rule and said, just admit that you watch Power. Lmao. Like, calling him a fan. Ja Rule said, never seen one episode. He's solid over where he is. He told 50, from now on, his name is Boo Boo. And that's what they used to call. Because that's what they used to call him on the streets. But really it was Boo Boo the fool. He says that 50 cent is from the streets, from Brooklyn. You Boo Boo from Queens. He says he called 50 Cent used car salesman. He brought the fact that he used to be a used car salesman. Everything you do is trash. Not one good music, one good album. After that, trash. Trash TV shows, trash everything. Some of these tweets is not really tweeting. He says that he's gonna make. He just look, he said, 50 Cent is garbage. That is trash. And people. People were responding to that, like, now, you know that ain't true. You know, he didn't have some good music and had some hits. And. Yeah, so he's just been going off on Twitter. 50 has not responded to this yet, but I'm sure he probably might. But he did delete that first tweet. I mean, that first Instagram post.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

It tickles me to watch the new generation, you know, be intrigued by this. Like, we've been watching this forever. This is Cowboys versus Redskins. This is Lakers versus Celtics. This is Duke versus North Carolina. This is the Hatfield versus McCoys. That's what Ja ruling 50 Cent are.

[DJ Envy]

And it'll never end.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

It's never gonna end.

[DJ Envy]

There'll be 99 with canes going at.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Each other, hitting each other with wheelchairs.

[DJ Envy]

It's a never ending.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Like, it's a beef that will never end. And I understand.

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[Harley Quinn Smith]

Hey, what up y'all?

[DJ Envy]

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[Caller]

Do you remember what you said the first night I came over here?

[DJ Envy]

Ow. Go slower.

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[Harley Quinn Smith]

Now take a big whiff, my bruh.

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[Harley Quinn Smith]

If you know the history between them, you will completely understand. And I ain't got time to sit here and give y'all no history lessons, okay?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Ja Rule started posting paperwork calling 50 Cent a rat. Like it was going and going and going and going. I tweeted, I'm like, y'all, I love both of them. Why can't this just end? Oh, I had to mute my tweet the way the people were like, we don't want it to end. And it's not. I'm like, well it not.

[DJ Envy]

This will never end.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

It's not going to end.

[DJ Envy]

Like I said, there'll be 99 wheelchairs and, and canes going at each other. It this inevit.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, well from.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

And from. Never mind. I was never mind. It don't even matter.

[DJ Envy]

None of your business.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

It's not, you know, but if you go watch the interview, all I'm going say from 50s perspective when you feel like somebody tried to take everything from you. Everything.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Not just livelihood, that it's everything. Yeah. It's not gonna ever. It's up forever.

[DJ Envy]

It's never.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, speaking of going up, Gayle King is going to space today. So as long as weather permits, today Gayle King will be going up into space at 9.30am but it's not just Gayle King. This is actually the first all woman crew to lift off in nearly six decades. And they'll be going up via Blue Origin, which is owned by Elon Musk. I'm sorry, which is owned by Jeff Bezos. Now in this flight you have Gail King, Katy Perry, Lauren Sanchez, who is the fiance of Jeff Bezos, Aisha, Bo, Amanda, Norwegian and Carrion Flynn. So they'll be headed up at 9:30 and there will be a live stream that will be streaming this that I believe that live stream portal opens around like 8am on various places where you can watch them prior to and getting on and taking off, and they'll be up there for some time, and then they'll come right back down.

[DJ Envy]

They'll be up there for a minute or something like that. Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But then they have to before they go up, though, it does have to be cleared, of course, weather and all that stuff. So it's all depending. But I don't know about y'all, but I was thinking about this today. I just asked Charlotte, like, would y'all ever go to space?

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Nope.

[DJ Envy]

Before I would have, but now I got six kids. Nah, I'm all right.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

I ain't got no reason to be up there.

[DJ Envy]

I would love that. But I've done skydiving. I've done all types of stupid stuff before, but. But not nine. But the six kick nine.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

I saw something yesterday, I was reading this weekend about how they're building, like, a. A space hotel that's gonna be for, like, 400 guests, and it's gonna have artificial gravity up there. And I'm like, I have no reason to be up there. I'm, you know, I'm cool. I like being on islands. I don't need to be in space.

[DJ Envy]

I don't need to be in space.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Hell, I need to be in space.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think it's just the. The excitement that say. You experience it and see what it is, and they'll actually unbuckle and float in the capsule for about four minutes while up there.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, so they up there longer than a minute? Well, yeah. I wish them the best of luck.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Can't wait to hear about it. Yeah. You can even show me I don't need to experience that. I can. You know, smart people learn from their own mistakes. Wise people learn from the mistakes of others. Not saying that they're making a mistake. I'm just saying that I can learn and enjoy something. Watching somebody else. I'm fine watching them.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. Some people gotta walk, and some people got to sit down and watch. And I'm down to sit down and watch.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Down to sit down and watch. I ain't got no business being in space at all.

[DJ Envy]

But I wish you the best, though.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Me too.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

I'm not a thrill seeker like that. Like, life is, you know, hectic enough.

[DJ Envy]

I. I used to be. Like I said, I did the skydiving thing. Zipline over the safari.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's so crazy because I used to be a flight attendant, but I would never do stuff like that.

[DJ Envy]

Did all that stupid stuff.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, I guess.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

And plus, I got it. I got. I deal with Anxiety. Like I don't need to be scaring myself.

[Kevin Smith]

Yeah.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

I don't even like going to see horror movies. What the hell? I'm pay somebody to scare me for people that go on roller coasters for what I will.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, I'm a roller coaster. That one jump out of plane was everything, though. I wouldn't do it again, but it was everything.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Just free floating in the sky like Superman.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

The wind hitting you and you just. Just watching everything was beautiful.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Hey, man, I want to do it again. That was all the thrill I needed, okay? I've had guns pulled on me trying.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

To beat you up.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

You know what I'm saying?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You have been through a lot over there. You don't need no more.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

I deserve everything I got. I deserve it all, period.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You gonna be right here on the ground to live it and feel it.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

That's right. That's right.

[Kevin Smith]

All right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We gonna be in space. You.

[DJ Envy]

That is the latest with Laura. Now, when we come back, we got front page news and an author, Mel Robbins will be joining us. So don't go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

You're checking out the Breakfast Club.

[DJ Envy]

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the breakfast club. Lauren LaRosa is here. Let's get in some front page news. Now. If you're an NBA fan, the playoffs begin April 19th. All right, so April 19th, they have the playing tournament and then the playoffs begin. So good luck to the New York Knicks outdoor. All right. What up, Morgan?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Hey, what's up, Al? So earlier in the show, we were talking about President Trump and the Supreme Court, right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So he said he will follow the.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Supreme Court order to return a Maryland man who was wrongfully deported. Now, last Thursday, the high court ruled that the government must facilitate the return of Kilmar Abrego Garcia, who was deported by accident last month to an El Salvador prison. Now, when asked about it on Air Force One on Friday, Trump said he respects the Supreme Court and that if the Supreme Court. Supreme Court said bring somebody back, that he would do it. Charlemagne. So the State Department says the Maryland man who was wrongfully deported to El Salvador is, quote, alive and secure. Officials initially wouldn't give his whereabouts on Saturday, but it was revealed that Garcia is being held in an El Salvadorian prison called the Terrorism Confinement Center. And later, lawyers for Garcia are also asking the judge to hold the Justice Department in contempt for failing to return him to the US So right now, now what the judge and this, what's surrounding this Case basically is they are trying to facilitate his return, but they also said that that can't happen, you know, as immediate as the courts would like.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

I saw that Friday, but 12 hours ago, the Trump administration contends it has no duty to return the illegally deported man to the US that was literally 12 hours ago in the New York Times. I saw, I saw him say that Friday, but 12 hours ago, they said something totally different.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I was gonna say. And then on Saturday, this is what he said, that the man is alive and secure. I know that the court is, is. Has ruled that he is supposed to provide or the administration. Excuse me. And the DOJ is supposed to provide daily updates to the court, to the judge in regards to Garcia, how they're facilitating getting him back. So I should have an update again for you tomorrow. I'm supposed to, based on what the court ruled. But, you know, we will see. Again, we will see. With Trump. We will see. Switching gears to Pennsylvania. A man is in custody and will face attempted murder and arson charges following an early morning fire at the Pennsylvania governor's mansion. According to the Pennsylvania State Police, firefighters responded to the Harrisburg residents of shapiro at about 2:00am Now, Josh Shapiro says his family was home at the time, but were able to escape unharmed. Governor Josh Shapiro also said the violence needs to stop and this action will not deter him. Let's take a listen to his comments.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

This kind of violence is becoming far too common in our society, and I don't give a damn if it's coming.

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[Harley Quinn Smith]

If this individual was trying to deter me from doing my job as your governor, rest assured I will find a way to work even harder than I was just yesterday. Yes, Luther. Governor Josh Shapiro. Man, great governor, great human. I hate that happened to him and his family. And I don't understand how that happened. Like, that's the governor's mansion. How did he even get on the property? Yeah, how do you even get close enough to the house to even set it on?

[DJ Envy]

That makes no sense.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's scary.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Shapiro did say that the. He went on to say that the attack was targeted, but a specific motive is not yet known. Pennsylvania State Police, of course, say that the investigation is ongoing and they believe it was an act of arson. So, again, I'll keep you posted as that story develops.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Well, you know, keep this in mind. Governor Shapiro, the reason they're targeting you is because you are a threat. Salute to Governor Josh Shapiro. And it's a shame that, you know, in 2028, he'd be a prime candidate. But the Democratic brand is so whack that it makes the great ones like Governor Josh Shapiro. You know, it stains them a little bit just because the brand is so whack. Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

And you got to fix the security. He got to make sure his. He's more secure than that. Like you said, he's in the governor's mansion. There's no way in hell they should have got that close. So.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right. They got him about the house, but it shouldn't have been on fire.

[Lauren LaRosa]

All right, guys. And I just wanted to touch on this story. There is a story that's been developing. I've been watching this story, but I didn't want to rush to report on it and just let some of the facts come out. There's been a developing story out of Texas following a stabbing death at a high school track meet. Carmelo Anthony with a K, no relation to the basketball player that I know of, was charged a fatal stabbing of 17 year old Austin Metcalfe at a track meet about two weeks ago at Frisco's Isds Memorial High School. Now, his family announced on Saturday that they had hired a new attorney to represent Anthony. Anthony has no previous criminal history and isn't likely to be considered a flight risk since his family lives in Frisco now. Local activists and spokesperson for Anthony addressed the media to clear up some rumors that this happened as a result of Metcalf bullying Anthony and that the two knew each other prior to this incident. Incident, which is not true. Let's take a listen to spokesperson Dominique Alexander.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

The disinformation that is going online is hurting this case and it has to stop. It has to stop. Y'all as we know it right now.

[DJ Envy]

Austin Metcalfe and Carmela Anthony did not know each other.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

We. They did not know each other. Let's stop it.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So for the Frisco murder suspect, Carmelo Anthony, he has a bond reduction hearing scheduled for today. His attorneys plan to ask the court to reduce his bond to $1 million. Now, Metcalf was laid to rest over the weekend. On Saturday, let's take a listen to Austin Metcalfe, the father he was as he talks about his son.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

He stabbed my son in the heart and killed him.

[DJ Envy]

That's the extent of this.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

That's what it was over something so small, so trivial. He was a leader.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He believed in God.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

He was a great kid.

[Caller]

Made me the proudest father in the world.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

That's horrible, man.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah. So of course I will keep you guys posted as to how this story develops. But again, as mentioned, there is a bond reduction hearing today, and there seems to be quite the support for the suspect. There has been a fundraiser. Give Send Go has raised more than $285,000 in regards to support for his defense. So Give Send Go also has fundraisers for Kyle Rittenhouse and Daniel Penny, just to give you guys some perspective on that. So it seems to be those who are supporting the. What's the word I would use? Less popular? Or those who just, just defense, basically, I'll just say. But yeah. So bringing things home to you guys in New York really quickly to wrap things up. The Central Park Five, also known as the Exonerated Five, got the green light from a federal judge on Thursday to move forward with a defamation lawsuit against President Trump. The five black and one Hispanic man were teenagers when they were arrested in 1989 for assault and rape of a white woman dragging in New York City park. Trump took out a full page newspaper ad calling for the return of the or of the death penalty following the incident. It was, of course, took years before they were all eventually freed and exonerated and someone else confessed to the crime and DNA evidence backed that up. That didn't stop Trump from commenting on their case as recently as 2024, even going as far as falsely claiming the victim in the incident had been killed. So these guys are like, yeah, y'all not going, you know, you're not going to do that to me. And they're going to move forward with that case in regards to a defamation lawsuit against President Trump. So we'll see what happens with that as well. But, but that's your front page news, y'all. Y'all can follow me on socials at morganmedia. And for more news coverage, follow the Black Information Network at Black Information Network. Download the free iHeartRadio app and visit [e-mail] Happy Monday. Let's make it a great week.

[DJ Envy]

Thank you, Morgan.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Thank you.

[DJ Envy]

All right, now, when we come back, Mel Robbins will be joining us. She has a new book, the Let Em Theory. And we're gonna talk to her next. So don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne the guy. We are the breakfast club. Lauren LaRosa is here as well. And we got a special guest in the building.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Yes, indeed.

[DJ Envy]

Ladies and gentlemen, Mel Robbins.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Welcome.

[Kevin Smith]

Hey, it's good to see you.

[DJ Envy]

How you feeling?

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Good morning.

[Kevin Smith]

I feel great. How are you doing?

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Bless. Black and highly favored. This is your first time in this studio. You were here in 2021 when you had the high five theory.

[Kevin Smith]

Yes, yes.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

But now, millions of books later, number one podcast in the world right now. Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Round of applause. Congratulations.

[Kevin Smith]

Six year old woman.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

You know, man, it really feels like you've truly arrived. What do you, what do you, what do you think? You know, the success, what's made all this new success happen?

[Kevin Smith]

Well, you know, it's not new success. Like what you're seeing is the result of 15 years of just boring, grueling daily reps. Like, that's what nobody like wants to understand is that you can be successful, you can achieve anything you want. You just have to be patient. You have to get up out of bed every single day and put one foot in front of the other. You got to be willing to do the things you don't feel like doing in the dark when nobody's watching. And when you think that it's not going to happen for you, that is what it's about. It's about just consistent small moves, being patient. I mean, there were so many times where I was just like, like, am I ever going to get out of debt?

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Wow.

[Kevin Smith]

Is anyone ever going to notice? Like, am I ever going to get invited to the Breakfast Club? Like one of the. Like, when is somebody going to notice?

[DJ Envy]

I'm sure this wasn't your spot that you wanted.

[Kevin Smith]

Well, no, but seriously, like, you kind of sit there because, I mean, every one of us have had those moments. Whether you're putting out music or you're starting a YouTube channel, or you started a business. And it's so easy to look around at what everybody else is doing and think that you're losing some race in life. The real game is with yourself. Can you keep going? Can you say to yourself, and this is kind of how I would keep myself going in those moments? I would say, I refuse to believe that this is how the story ends. I believe that at some point all of this work is going to pay off. I don't have to know how. I have to believe that it will. And if it hasn't yet, it's not meant to yet. There's some lesson, there's something I'm being held for that I don't know what it is. But if I choose to believe in this moment that things are going to get better, that things are going to turn out for me, that all this hard work is going to pay off, that trying to be a better person is going to pay off, at some point I will look back on my life and Say, oh, that's why it didn't happen then. Oh, that's why it took longer. Oh, that's why either you weren't ready or God, the universe was holding you for a different moment. And so, you know, a lot of people ask me, what is this moment about? I think it's about 15 years of ridiculously hard work, becoming a better person. I think it's about 15 years of just chipping away at getting out of debt and doing better in my marriage and being a better mother and getting control of my emotions and my mental health, chipping away at building a business. And I truly believe that I was being held for this moment. Like this 1000% is my legacy.

[DJ Envy]

Well, let me ask you a question, Mel. You talk about the reps?

[Kevin Smith]

Yep.

[DJ Envy]

For you it worked out and successful and great. What about that person that, that is just not good, right? That rapper that is not good. Like he's trying that podcast person that is doing a podcast that is just not good. And everybody thinks they're good, good to anybody.

[Kevin Smith]

Well, I don't see, I don't believe that.

[DJ Envy]

And, but when do you stop because you're a 60 year old rapper, like, you know what I mean?

[Kevin Smith]

Or maybe, why can't there be a 90 year old one? See, maybe what the rapping is for is maybe it's not about rapping. Maybe there is something that you're doing when you are rapping and nobody's coming that is teaching you a less about patience. Maybe what it's doing is teaching you to believe in yourself when nobody else does. And every time that you show up and nobody's there, every time you post a video on your YouTube channel that only your uncle and your son are subscribed to, every time you post you're basically saying, you know what? Screw the world. I believe in myself. I'm doing this for myself. And so for me, when you give the example of like the person who's a rapper, just terrible. Just there's lots of people out there doing stuff, they're just terrible. What I love is that they felt called to do something. I don't care if they felt called to do it because they wanted to make more money. I mean, hell, I was working five, six jobs back, you know, 15 years ago when we were $800,000 in debt because I needed groceries on the table, I needed gas in the tank. And so motivation to be safe and to make money or because of your ambition, that's a beautiful thing. But at some point you're going to go I'm not that good at this. But I believe, and this is what I think is super cool about life. Absolutely every experience that you have in life is leading you somewhere.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Absolutely.

[Kevin Smith]

And teaching you something. And I'm gonna. One of the reasons why I share so much about what I've learned and the mistakes that I've made. I'm like, the villain in every book, is because I'm stubborn. Like, it takes a sledgehammer from the universe for me to wake the hell up and stop doing something. Like, I literally get so into my groove, whether it's drinking too much or taking my stress out on my kids or being a jealous, insecure friend, that things have to backfire for me to wake up and go, well, guess I better try something different.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

But I want to just set it up. About the book, man. There's some books that I believe are must reads in life. The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins has been added to that must read list. My wife got it for me a few weeks ago. And the book is just essentially about how you have. How you have to stop wasting your life on things that you can't control. When did you get to that revelation?

[Kevin Smith]

Oh, my God, it was 54. I am a slow learner, you know, and the funny thing is, I'm married to the chillest dude on the planet. I mean, I'm married to a man who is not only Buddhist, he is a death doula. And, like, when you want to talk about, like, a person. Yeah, that can just sit in stillness. I'm like a tornado of emotion. And so I've always wanted to let things go. I've always wanted to not care what people think. I've never known how. And see, when you're stressed or you're easily offended like I used to be, or you have a lot going on, it is very hard to not get wrapped up in what other people are thinking and doing. It's very hard to not let what your kids are going through stress you out. And so, you know, I've been trying to do this forever. I mean, this is not a new idea. The Serenity Prayer is the let them theory. In fact, you know, I sat down with Dr. Martin Luther King III and his wife Andrea, and they both said, we write about it in the Let them theory. They both reflect on the fact that this concept that you have to give up control in order to gain control, that your power is in. Your response that this is part of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr's legacy, because your response is what dictates who you are. It's not what's happening out there. It's how you respond to it with your thoughts and your actions and how you process your own emotions. And so I did not know this until I was 54 years old. And you know, for me personally, the power of these two words, because let them. We've all said let them in our lives a bazillion times. I mean, there's a. There's a sermon circulating that's 20 years old. TD Jakes doing this Let them sermon. So this is a concept that has been around since the beginning of time, and that's why this has resonated. I'm not teaching you something new. I'm reminding you of what you already know to be true. And I'm handing you this tool so you can snap out of this crap where we're constantly worked up about what other people are doing to take our power back.

[DJ Envy]

All right, we got more with author Mel Robbins when we come back. So don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlamagne, the guy. We are the breakfast club. Lauren LaRosa's here as well. We're still kicking it with Mel Robbins.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Lauren, you. You talk about managing other people a lot, and I've never heard the term put like that, but you use it to basically talk about how we're. We're. So what you're talking about right now, we're worried about other people, but also too, I think it's expectations of other people that we're trying to. We're making decisions based around that a lot. When did you realize this whole scale of, like, managing other people and learning when to clock out of that job of trying to do that?

[Kevin Smith]

Well, so what is going to happen is this. So when you start using the let them theory, and it's so easy to use the next time you're stressed out or annoyed or frustrated, and it's always with other people, just say, let them.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Them.

[Kevin Smith]

That's how you use it. Let them. And you're going to immediately feel peaceful. Your mom's in a bad mood. Let her be in a bad mood. Some old friend of yours is talking, let him talk trash. Why you're not allowing it. When you say let them, you are reminding yourself there's one thing in life I can't control. It's what other people say, do believe, feel. And it's not my job, too. So when you start saying let them and you detach yourself from the responsibility of Having to manage somebody else, else, something interesting happens, you realize, oh, my God, I've lived my life in reverse. I actually live my life giving time and energy, trying to manage what other people think. I have kept myself in a major or in a relationship or in a situation because I'm afraid to disappoint my parents or my friends. I mean, how many people keep drinking or, like, keep going out at night when what they really want to do is launch a business. Business. And so they don't take the weekends to work on the things that they want to work on because they feel like they don't want to disappoint their friends or people going to talk about them. That's you giving power to other people. Like, another way that we give power to other people is we, you know, get so focused on the headlines that we gaslight ourselves into believing that you have no power. It's complete garbage. Of course you have power. And so when you start saying let them, it's sort of this revelation where you're like, oh, my, my God, I spend so much time and energy worrying about other people. I spent so much time and energy letting them stress me out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But is there a level of, like, when that becomes easier versus harder? Because, like, when you were just talking, I thought about Michelle Obama.

[Kevin Smith]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

In the podcast, one of the podcasts she did this week, she was talking about how she realized she was doing a lot for other people, not thinking about herself, and she started making decisions for herself. So she's going places she wants to go and do things. People don't like that, and they think she's divorced because of it, but it's like she's Michelle Obama, so it's hard for her to, like, the noise is so. It's a lot louder for her.

[Kevin Smith]

Well, of course. But whether or not you pay attention to that is within your control. Whether or not you look at your phone and we're all guilty of it. Whether you are Michelle Obama or you're just going into your middle school, whether or not you give attention to the gossip, you look for the gossip, you mainline it. That is within your control. If you say, I can never, ever, ever stop somebody from lying about me, from making up stuff about me, from, you know, saying whatever they're going to say. So why on earth would I spend any time and energy managing it?

[Harley Quinn Smith]

That's right.

[Kevin Smith]

And then you go, let me. This is the second part of the theory. Why don't you say, let them. Let them think negative thoughts. Let them make up all kinds of Crap. Because if you know you're not getting divorced, what do you care about these idiots saying, let me remind myself that I know the truth. And when you know the truth about who you are, you don't think about other people. When you live your life in a way that makes you proud, you don't think about other people.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Mel, I tell them this all he told me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You told me to read her book. And I was like, and I already had the book because I think Eddie had given it to us a minute ago. I was like, oh, I got the book.

[Kevin Smith]

And, and furthermore, you got it. It will change your damn. I'm telling you, it will change your life because.

[DJ Envy]

But you have to get to that stage, right? Yes, because it took me a while to get to that stage. Took you a while to get to that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He think he was born that way. And I don't think that's true. No one is born.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

So I've never truly cared, right? But then, even when I started to care, I realized things like the serenity prayer, little simple things that you saw sitting in your grandmother's house. You realize that is absolutely the truth. God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. And the easiest way to let go of what you can't control is just realizing you never had control to begin with.

[Kevin Smith]

And, and here's another thing that's really important. This is why you're going to love it, is that what'll start to happen when you say let them is it's not that you're allowing people to do bad things. They're already doing bad things. You're recognizing that it's not your job to manage other people, because this is a book that's about power and control and peace. Then you say, let me remind myself how I respond to things actually is where my power is. So do I give this any time and energy or not? Do I double down on just living my life in a way that makes me proud of myself? Which is where your power is. And the thing that. That also changed me dramatically is I couldn't believe how much stress I felt and how I was bracing all the time. And when you start to say, let them, and you release that kind of obligation to make other people happy or to make everybody know that you're not divorced or that everything's okay, or like, just let them think whatever they want to think and live your life in a way that makes you proud, you're going to get all this time and energy back. And what I love about this is when you're less stressed and when you're not bracing all the time because you know your boss is narcissistic. So why on earth would you walk into work assuming that today is going to be anything other than what it already has always been? Let them be who they are.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

I love the managing stress chapter. And in that chapter you say you can't control how other adults, adults behave. And stressing about it diminishes your power. You'll never reach the full potential of your life if you continue to allow stupid things or rule people to drain your life force.

[Kevin Smith]

Yes. So the, the two most important resources that you have in life, time, energy. That's, that's what you got. How you spend your time, where you put your energy. It actually determines your experience of life. And that's why I say if you have this experience right now where you're exhausted and overwhelmed and, and nervous and you're not like feeling like you can ever have time for yourself or your goals just aren't clicking, you're not the problem. The problem is all this time and energy you spend dealing with other people and so let them is a boundary that you draw where you start to recognize, okay, I'm going to let other people think and feel and do and have their opinions, and I'm going to let them be disappointed. I'm going to let them misunderstand me and I'm going to let me really take that time and energy back and pour it into working on myself and staying in my peace. And what I found is that when I'm less stressed, which I am, because I'm not allowing stupid stuff or other people to stress me out, I'm actually a better person. I make more money because I can use my brain instead of being in fight or flight. I don't like vomit on my kids, my emotions. I used to be the kind of person that would come in after work and be yelling at everybody or mad at the dog, for crying out loud. And then I'd be like, I'm sorry, it was a bad day at work. Stressful day at work with the dog. Say back, yeah, you know, they kind of do this and then they come back and they're really nice because they, they literally. Dogs don't do, don't like punish you for that. And it's so sad that I used to leave the worst of me for the people I cared about the most and then blame it on the stress of the day that by the way, when you use the let them theory, you have have control over whether or not this stuff gets to you.

[DJ Envy]

Let me, let me Do I have a question. In chapter five, you say let them think bad thoughts about you, right? The question with that is when a lot of people sometimes especially on social media, right?

[Kevin Smith]

Yep.

[DJ Envy]

Nobody fact checks anymore. But that could affect your reputation, that could affect your business, that could affect the way that your your kids, teachers look at you.

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[Harley Quinn Smith]

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[DJ Envy]

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[DJ Envy]

Or business that comes around.

[Kevin Smith]

Of course.

[DJ Envy]

So what do you do in those instances?

[Kevin Smith]

Well, so here. This is a very tricky question because you're talking about the PR and the media swirl. PR is a little bit different. Different in personal. Like, I think it's really important to understand who you are. Whether you're dealing with rumors at a middle school or you're dealing with rumors in your community, or you've got somebody in your family trash talking you in order to repair your reputation. It is better to show than to tell. In my opinion, you prove the truth based on how you show up in life, not based on the words that come out of your mouth. And if there is somebody spreading things about you, the best way to handle it is to go directly to that person and to ask them about it. Because those kind of people, the people that gossip about you, ultimately end up crumbling anyway. That's right, because it always catches up with them.

[DJ Envy]

All right, we got more with Mel Robbins when we come back. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlamagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Mel Robbins. Her new book, the Let em Theory is out right now.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Charlamagne mean, you know, you were in the book, you talk about how you felt paralyzed by imposter syndrome, especially when you were teaching.

[Kevin Smith]

Yeah.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

The five second rule. I wonder what's changed since then. Like, what gives you the confidence and authority now to feel like you can go out here and teach to let them do.

[Kevin Smith]

That's a great, great question. So you know how. Well, first of all, imposter syndrome is deeply misunderstood. So imposter syndrome does not mean that you don't belong in the room you're in. Imposter syndrome means you actually want to be in the room you're in in. And there's skills or there's experience that you need to gain in order to dominate. In that rule. Imposter syndrome is actually not self doubt, it's ambition. And so explain that a bit because.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It'S always been said the other way.

[Kevin Smith]

Yeah. And so if you really think about it, if you walk into a room and you don't feel imposter syndrome, it's because you don't want to be in that room. You don't care what people think about you in that room. If you walk into a room and you feel a sense of imposter syndrome room, it's because you care about what people think about you in that room. It means your ambition wants you to succeed in that room.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was like a push to stay sharp because you're trying to. Okay.

[Kevin Smith]

And also like, hey, I want to actually succeed around people like this. Which means what are the skills I need? And what I started to understand, and I think it explains a lot about why I am who I am, is that we're all the same. Everybody is dealing with the same stuff. Yes, it's easier if you have more money and more resources, but at the end of the day, everybody's got a family member that they're worried about. Everybody has ambition they're not tapping into. Everybody has things that they want to pursue in their life and they're kind of letting themselves down a little bit. Everybody struggles with a little bit of uncertainty and anxiety at times. Everybody has hopes and dreams and feels a little discouraged and overwhelmed. And when you start at a baseline that people would love to thrive, and people thrive when they can. And if they can't, I believe it's because they're discouraged or they're. There's some skill building or some experience or, you know, some mentorship that's missing. That's it. But that you're built to thrive. And so when you really start at that baseline, like, you know, I make it a practice, by the way. This is. This is one thing that'll change your life. When you go into a public bathroom, two things. I always leave the space better than when I found it. I always.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You clean up public bathroom?

[Harley Quinn Smith]

It depends. Now, Mel.

[Kevin Smith]

No, no, no. Literally, like, I literally. That's why I don't go into that stall. But I literally, like, I. No, just hear me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's a. Let them. I gotta let.

[Kevin Smith]

Because if somebody, like, destroy. Especially women, if somebody destroys a seat, pees all over it, and then they leave, that is a human being that is so disconnected from the interconnection of the human experience. You are leaving that for another person. And so making sure that you don't leave your mess for another person, making sure that you just kind of wipe down the counter. And then here's the second thing. If there is a human being cleaning that bathroom, please look them in the eye and say thank you.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

All the time.

[DJ Envy]

All the time.

[Kevin Smith]

Thank you. Like that, right? There is a simple thing that will make you start to shake out of that woe is me or that stress or that overwhelm. Let them know you appreciate and see what they're doing because it changes who you are. And then you start to see all day long that there are like, you know, I'm can't look at. Because I'm gonna cry. People are just walking around disconnected. And the power of starting to be the one that wakes people up. Hey, you know, I hope I always get an elder. Hey, how's everybody doing? Like, it's shocking how we have gotten so far away from that sense of community. And there's actually research around this. They call it either weak ties. I call them warm connections. Those people that you see in the building every day that you say hello to, the. The person that's walking the dog that you, you know, know the name of the dog in your neighborhood. These relationships matter because they make you Feel human again.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

When you feel the impact from what you're doing with your book and the let them theory, like you just got emotional, just not even just about your impact, but just talking about just change in the world, how does it make you feel? Like, do you take a moment just of gratitude and be like, because I saw all the tattoos in the book and I was like, that's so fire. It's hard to make people like actually believe something that's not tangible.

[Kevin Smith]

One of the things that, you know, for me, I spent so many years like hating myself and feeling like I was a really bad person. And when you get stuck in life, it's easy to think you're the only one. And so I'm just literally on a mission to share whatever I can share and give people access. Just like you guys give people access to incredible thinkers and experts and resources. You know, your work is reaching some way halfway around the world that doesn't even have a toilet in their house. And how incredible is that? And if I can save anybody the headaches and the heartaches that I caused myself or the people that I care about, because I didn't know any better. I didn't know what the problem was. I didn't know how to change myself. I didn't know how to push through the emotion that is a life well lived.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why did you hate yourself though? Because you can't do anything about what you don't know.

[Kevin Smith]

Oh my God, we don't have time. I literally, like, from the amount of cheating I did when I was little to the undiagnosed anxiety or the undiagnosed dyslexia and ADHD and how that created tremendous anxiety to the way that childhood trauma impacted me that I didn't even realize was impacting me. Like, it's just chronic. I just did not think I was a bad person. And there's a lot of people walking around that have a hundred times more negative thoughts than they do positive, positive ones. And a lot of people develop a habit of being very self critical. It's never enough. Like you're never gonna make it. Like you're always so stupid. Why did you do that? Either because that's how they were talked to when they were little, or because it's this like almost protective thing that if you beat yourself up first, you're gonna catch it before other people do. And I got to a point, and this is a, an important thing. The only thing you need to make your life better is one to sit decision how I'm living My life right now and how it feels no longer works for me. That's all you need to know. If you can have the courage to say that to yourself. You now have tipped the first domino because you've made a decision that you want to change how your life feels. You made a decision that you want to change how it feels up here. And for me, as a mom, like your kids, absorb the way that you treat yourself. And so having two daughters that I started noticing, my God, why are these beautiful young women picking themselves apart? Well, because I do. Why are they so hard on that? Because I was so hard on myself. That's how they learn it. And so I don't want them to do that to themselves. And, you know, the thing I was going to share that's made a huge difference for me is that I keep the impact front and center. And so we send an email out five days a week. There's a person on our team whose job is to assemble all of the things that people are saying all over the world about the books and the podcast, not about Mel, but about what you learned. And I'll tell you, every day, there's 20 to 30 of them. And just the other day, there was a person who talked about how he was a stepdad and the. And the relationship ended, and those step kids were his life, and he didn't want to be here anymore. And somebody started to share the podcast with him, and he would go and take a walk every morning and listen to the podcast, and it started giving him a sense of hope. And now he uses the let them theory. This is a person that actually works in, like a police operations control center. Never in a million years would I think this is somebody that's listening to the Mel Robbins podcast or listening to this kind of conversation. But it goes to prove that everybody wants to do well, everybody wants to thrive. And, you know, when you're not doing well, you know, when you're not thriving, the. The problem for most of us is just kind of feeling like, I don't think think this could change. And the fact is, of course it can change. If you've ever been happy in your life, you can be happy again. If you've ever been proud of yourself, you can be proud of yourself again. If you've ever forgiven somebody else, you can learn to forgive yourself.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

And, you know, also, God doesn't call to qualified. He qualifies the called. And you've been called Mel Robbins.

[Kevin Smith]

I feel that.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

I love you, man.

[Kevin Smith]

I love you, too.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Wow.

[DJ Envy]

That's right. Well, we appreciate you for joining us.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Thank you, Mel.

[Kevin Smith]

Thank you.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

All right.

[DJ Envy]

Well, it's Mel Robbins. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Yes, it's the world's most dangerous morning show, the Breakfast Club. Salute to Mel Robbins for pulling up. And it's time for the latest for Lauren.

[Kevin Smith]

Lauren becoming a straight face.

[DJ Envy]

She gets them from somebody that knows somebody.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

She gets the details.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm the home girl that knows a little bit about everything.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

She be having the latest on the Latest with Lauren LaRosa. Sometimes you have facts, sometimes she have details. Sometimes she have a little bit of everything. Well, it's the latest on the Breakfast Club. Talk to me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So Coachella went down. And I will say I feel like it was quiet around Coachella this year even though it's a big music festival, but there were certain moments that definitely picked picked up. Cardi B performed. Missy Elliott actually made her Coachella debut. This is her first time at Coachella and she came out as a full transformer and then she shed the transformer skin and she performed. And people just watching fans react because I don't know if they've never seen a Missy Elliott video or performance that I don't think that they didn't know how she was coming.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

She said, never seen that level of creativity.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yo.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

That's what it was.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Crazy.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She's been preparing this set since November 2024. And she said when she revealed that she would be there that she was going to be doing something out of this world, which is very on brand for Missy. So she performed as well. Then you had Meg thee Stallion that also performed.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Doesn't it feel good to see creative folks, young people, people that actually care about their craft? Oh, over and above, they care about their stage performance.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They online calling her Transformer Misdemeanor Elliott now over and above. When I say her set was fire, it was fire from start to finish. But also, Meg thee Stallion had a really good set too. And she brought out Ciara. She brought out Victoria Monet, but then she surprised the crowd when she brought out Queen Latifah.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

The key is not to be hot for the moment. The key is to be timeless. That's the moral of the story. The key is to be classic. When you classic, you live forever.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Now. The theme behind Meg thee Stallion's stage was girl power. So as I mentioned, she brought out Victoria Monet. Ciara did. They had to duet before performance and she did goodies. It was a great. Especially because Meg thee Stallion really dances. So her Victoria Monet, Sierra they got busy on stage, but there were also some moments off the stage at this year's Coachella as well, too. Chris Brown was topic of conversation all weekend because there was video of him hanging out with Tiana Taylor in discussion with Teyana Taylor and video of him and Karrueche having a laugh. So people were like, oh, wait, he's good with all these people. So why we still have set people? You got to learn to mind your business. If people have moved on, we should too.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

I know you ain't talking.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's my job to mind the business and talk about the business. Yours too, sir.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Not really.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You talking as well. Okay, you finished? Are you done? Well, the moment with Teyana Taylor sparked interesting conversation because there was the whole back and forth, remember? And they said that, like, that that was the reason why him and Usher got into it and all those things. And I think in the video, when you see it, you could tell the brother and sisterly, like, back and forth and banter that they had have. And then of course, in the video with Karru, you know, he's, you know, formally dated her. There's been some accusations there as well, too. They're laughing, joking, having a good time. And now the people are flooding Karrueche's comments, talking about, girl, go get your man back.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

It's funny that we think we know these people because these are the moments that we see them. We don't. They might have been talked.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

You know what I'm saying? They might have been communicated. This is just the moments that we see, but we see these brief moments ever so often and swear we know these people 100.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think people do that. I mean, there's celebrities you ain't gonna see every moment. But I. I do think it's something like this, the conversation. You know, they've been online arguing about people being able and not being able to move on and all that good stuff. But I will say the festival did look good this year. And everybody that was there look good as well too. Cuz Tiana Taylor, baby, she eats every year at the festival. You saw Tiana Taylor this year. I'mma show you her. Let me show you. TT in all black with the stomach out. She never comes to play.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Drop on the cliff bond for Tiana Taylor. Yes, that's the homie. Tiana still be lying about not working out. I didn't. I ain't asked her.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know what she do, but, baby, when I get the money, sign me up.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

She do got the genetics though Ms. Nikki, she get that from Ms. Nikki? Yes, Ms. Nikki.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Tana looks amazing. Yeah. So that, that's your recap of Coachella.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Okay. Well, thank you, Lauren.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You're welcome.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Four after the hour. We got donkey of the day and I need Cody Palmer of Harrisburg, Pennsylvania to come to the front of the congregation. We like to have a word with him. It's the Breakfast Club. You're checking out the Breakfast Club? Some donkey today just saw himself.

[Caller]

I've been watching Charlie man was ready.

[DJ Envy]

For.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

I never heard of donkey other day. What is it?

[DJ Envy]

Say it again.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Charlamagne. I'm a donkey. Yes, you are a donkey. Everything that Charlemagne man is saying is true. Yes, Donkey. Today for Monday, April 14th goes the 38 year old Cody Palmer of Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. Now, if you haven't heard, Cody is the suspect who's been arrested and charged with terrorism because of an arson attack on Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro's residence over the weekend as Josh Shapiro's and his family slept. Now, Governor Josh Shapiro is Jewish and this incident happened on the first night of Passover. I don't know if this incident was a Jewish thing or a Democrat thing, but let's go to 6 ABC Philadelphia for the report. Governor Josh Shapiro described himself as emotional but not fearful outside the Governor's residence in Harrisburg Sunday afternoon.

[Kevin Smith]

This after State Police say 38 year.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Old Cody Ballmer of Harrisburg set the.

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State dining room on fire overnight. New video shows the destruction where Shapiro.

[Kevin Smith]

And his family celebrated Passover just hours before on Saturday night.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

This kind of violence is becoming far too common in our society and I don't give a damn if it's coming from one particular side or the other. And it has to stop.

[Kevin Smith]

Police say it's clear Ballmer had a.

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Plan and moved quickly. They say he was inside the home.

[Kevin Smith]

Less than a minute and used homemade.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Devices, what sources describe to ABC News.

[Kevin Smith]

As a Molotov cocktail. Sources tell ABC News Ballmer is a.

[Hulu Advertiser]

Mechanic who expressed disdain for Democrats primarily.

[Kevin Smith]

Related to financial issues. They're also not ruling out Shapiro's Jewish faith as a motivating factor.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Now, I'm not the highest grade of weed in the dispensary, but when somebody asked me do I think this was a Jewish thing or a Democrat thing, I'm gonna say a combination of both. Okay. When you look at the timing of the incident, first day of Passover, and the fact, Governor, you know Shapiro is a high profile Jewish man, if you are anti Semitic and you're looking to make a statement, you're looking to make a Splash, he's your guy. But what I want us to pay attention to is how America has gone completely backwards in a lot of ways. I don't even know if we've gone backwards or if a lot of these racist cancer cells were just laying dormant in the body of America. They were just in hibernation, okay? And they were just in a hibernation like state. And now they've been coaxed out of their slumber because of the current political climate in this country. Don't get me wrong, it's always existed. It okay, but man, what happened to Governor Shapiro and his family could happen to anybody who is a member of a marginalized group. In 2025, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Said it best. An injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. And this was a complete injustice. And those words couldn't be more fitting because one of the first times I heard about something like this happening was when it happened to Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. January 30, 1956. Martin Luther King Jr. Is. His wife and child were inside when his home was firebombed. All praises due to God. Neither of them were harmed. Okay. Malcolm X, February 14, 1965. His house was firebombed. He had his wife and four daughters in the house. By the way, to all the simple minded digital D heads out there, I am not comparing Governor Shapiro to Dr. MLK Jr. And Malcolm X. I'm just telling you that when you hear certain stories, when you see certain images, especially horrific things like, like somebody firebombing your house, setting your house on fire while you're in there with your family, if you have any type of empathy, it sticks with you. And you say to yourself, I pray that never happens to me and my family. And you thought that those things were just things of the past, but no, when you see them still happening to folks in 2025, it's just a reminder that potentially it could happen to you. Now, I don't know how Cody got this close to the governor's man mansion. I mean, it's the damn governor's mansion. There should never be a breach of security there. But I'm starting to believe when it comes to guarding elected officials, Pennsylvania has the worst security ever. I mean, that's what Donald Trump almost got clipped. And now a 38 year old kid can jump to governors and he's. First of all, he's not a kid. What am I saying? And now a 38 year old man can jump the Governor's mansion and actually start a fire with homemade Devices and get away before he's ultimately caught. Now, Cody bomber's mother said that Cody suffers from mental illness and he was off his medication. Listen, you know, I overstand, okay? Mental health issues are serious and require compassion, but that doesn't excuse actions that endanger lives and threaten public safety, okay? He can get all the help he needs in somebody's prison, okay? Because we have to make examples of people like this. I also feel like discrimination is a form of mental illness. To hate someone because of what they're racist is their religion, is their gender, is their sexuality is. If you hate people because of what they are, you are mentally ill. And I don't want to see anyone being attacked or being the target of potential violence because of what they are, okay? Their race, their faith, their political party. Do we not understand that diversity is what truly makes America great? And by the way, if you don't like somebody's politics, well, get into politics yourself and challenge them. Them, okay? R. Support the politicians you like and help them defeat the politicians you don't. That's how things are done in a civilized country. But unfortunately, this country has always lied to itself about being civilized. Please give Cody Palmer of Harrisburg, Pennsylvania the biggest he haul.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Sad.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Yes, very sad. Now, we had Mel Robbins here last. Lauren LaRosa.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Great combo.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Did you learn anything?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I did.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

How long ago did I tell you to read the let them theory?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I got the book you told me about probably two months ago.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Was it that long?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

A month ago? Yeah, it was a minute ago. Yeah, just in conversation, you were like, you need to read the let them theory.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Yes. I am recommending this book to everybody. And you know what I would like to do right now? I would like to open up the phone lines and talk to people who have already applied the let them theory to their life. I want to know how they're applying the let them theory to their life and. Yeah, that's it. How? How and to what? Yes, how into what have you applied to let them theory to your life? Where do you think you need to apply that in your life?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Lauren, this is new levels, new devils, this. There's a lot of critiques that happen when people think that they can just, you know, you put your art out there, okay, And I'm having to quiet noise and just let people feel how they feel and do what they do because I know what I do do and what I do well. That's what I'm having to apply to let them. And with you, I'll be having to let you A lot, because I'm gonna smack you. If not.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

You know, you know this. You need to start telling the people the truth.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What's the truth?

[Harley Quinn Smith]

How much you love me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I do love you.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But I'll be having to let you. We have to let people we love all the time magic your wife, because I'm sure she'd be wanting to smack you, too.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

You. You gonna stop making the people think I'm not a nice person?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I tell people all the time you're nice. They just don't believe them. You know what you need to do?

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Good.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let them.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

That's right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

That's right. And that's exactly what I let them do. Okay. 1-800-585-1051. Call us right now. Tell us how you are applying Mel Robbins the Leptum theory to your life. It's the Breakfast Club. The Breakfast Club. It's topic time.

[DJ Envy]

Call 800-585-105.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

One additional join into the discussion with the Breakfast Club. Yes, it's the world's most dangerous morning show. The Breakfast Club. Charlemagne, the God, Lauren LaRosa, DJ Envy, and just Hilarious are out today. And we're talking Mel Robbins, the Let them theory. You know, Mel was here last hour that. This wasn't. That wasn't her first time on the Breakfast Club either. She came on the Breakfast club back in 2021 when she was promoting. Yes. The high five rule. It's when you wake up in the morning, you give yourself a high five in the middle mirror every morning. But we're talking Mel Robbins, the Let them theory.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Lauren LaRosa, high five habit.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

High five habit. There you go. Lauren LaRosa, how are you using the let them theory in your life?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Letting people just, you know, have their opinions about me. And it's a lot of opinions now, you know, especially sitting up here with y'all. You've been doing this for a long.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Time, every day, but you get numb to it. And, and, and you realize you do have to use the let them theory when it comes to that, because we are public servants. Servants. And we're getting on this radio every day, and we're doing a service for the public, and the public is allowed to have their opinions about it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I also think too, what you realize when you look into the let them theory is that you can't control how people feel.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Nope.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, if you take everything that someone says about you and try to create, like, here's a guideline of what I should be doing. You could do all of that. And they could still feel that way. So you got to just know what your goal is and, and level up or, or sit still, depending on what you want to do, because you can't control none of that.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Why do we forget things that like we learned, learned in our grandma house when we was kids? Because life hits you like the serenity prayer. God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference, you know, when you absolutely, positively will relinquish all control when you realize you don't have any. We don't control nothing. All we do is wake up in the morning, pray, do our affirmations, and go out into the world. And we are a subject to whatever the world brings us. That that day.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Easier said than done for a lot of people.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Well, you better do it. Let's go to the phone lines. Who's this?

[Caller]

It's free.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Free. What's happening, my brother?

[Caller]

What's going on, man?

[Harley Quinn Smith]

How are you applying the let them theory to your life, King?

[Caller]

Well, first off, I didn't even know that it was called to let them theory. I, I just. About three years ago, I mean, let's just, let's just keep it gangster. About 37, 35 years of my life, I was just complete piece of, you know, you know what I'm saying? All that, that done, the drugs, you know, Wildest, yep, crazy and everything that comes with it. Dead friends and the da, da, da. And about three years ago, I met this, this wonderful woman, man, this, this queen, my beautiful black queen. Shout out to you, baby, I'm a white boy, you know what I'm saying? But. And she, she just, she helped me let everything go. From family members of my dead friends that I was helping, that I can't help no more. From people from your back in your past that you say you never let, you'll never let go, you know, till death, you know what I'm saying? Padded, it's all that, you know. And just. I just had to figure out that I can do nothing for it. And. And if I don't move forward, I'm gonna continue living on this demon time. I mean, my girlfriend before my wife was a stripper. Excuse my language.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Damn, it was a lot of language. So you say you're a white man who met a black woman and the black woman changed your life? Totally.

[Caller]

Nah, dogma. Black chicks my whole life, man. You know what I'm saying?

[Harley Quinn Smith]

But stop cursing so much, okay? Yes, this one changed your Life.

[Caller]

Yeah, I mean, she just, she's just, you know, and I. I guess since I was looking, since listening to you this morning, I. Now I know it's called the, you know, to let it go here, you know, I just had to let everything from my past go. And now I have peaceful nights. No more nightmares. You know what I'm saying? It's just a whole change of life. In three years. I got a beautiful new six week old baby.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Congrats.

[Caller]

I got two beautiful stepsons that are in my world, you know.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Okay, well, thank you for calling my brother. I don't know if that was the let them there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think what he was trying to say is, is that once he. Whatever was bothering him from his past, maybe whatever he was, he. He had to learn to let them or let that just be.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Well, yeah, detachment. Yeah, detachment is part of the let them be.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Mel's story was like that. Like when she decided to detach from everything she thought she failed from, she was able to like level up and be successful.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

That's true. Good morning. Who's this?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Good morning.

[Caller]

This is Kimberly.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Hey, Kimberly, how are you?

[Caller]

I'm okay. In yourself, guys?

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Bless. Black and highly favored. We're talking about Mel Robbins, the let them theory this morning and we're asking people, how have you applied the lectern theory to your life?

[Caller]

Easy. Change the number and cut them all off.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

That is part of it, yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Caller]

So I have a brother that had a stroke and I also have an 18 year old son that think life is sweet. So you know what I do? Change my number and cut them off.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Damn. Did you. You waited till he turned 18? On the dot.

[Caller]

Yeah. He even got mad with me because I didn't call him for his 18th birthday.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Listen, man, when. When you pray to God to take negativity out your life, he not swinging at spirits, he's swinging at people and things that are the embodiment of that negativity. And sometimes it's your close family.

[Caller]

And it's so true because I, I end up don't have my two brothers. I lost my mother after I lost my mother. I don't talk to my two brothers now my son so damn.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Okay, well, have a great day.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You too as well, Charlie. Okay, well, have a great day. What I'm supposed to say she lost her. She ain't got nobody, just have a great day.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

But she made a choice. It's not like she said she made the choice to cut them off. I'm not. It's not like they died or something. I went to prison. Like, she made a choice. And so you know what? I gotta let her.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

People are really moving variables in our life. Like, you don't have to have certain people in your life. And every. No, the first two callers is all about people. And yes, you can just totally just not deal with those people.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Because as I. I've been saying this my whole life. When you pray to God to take negativity out your life, he's not gonna be swinging at things. He's gonna be swinging at people.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

God, there's a man in this room that won't leave my wig alone. Please remove all the evil from.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

You need to remove the wig. If you remove the wig, you remove the evil.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Please.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

I feel that is where the evil lies.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So it's a trickery that you spoke about in the Bible. I feel it every day. Please remove the demons and the spirits.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Call us right now. 1-800-585-1051. Tell us how to let them theory has been applied to your life. It's the Breakfast Club. Yeah, made it. If y'all talking about it, you know we talking about it. It's topic time. Call 800-585-1051 to join into the discussion with the Breakfast Club. Yes, it's the world's most dangerous morning show. The Breakfast Club. Charlamagne tha God. Lauren LaRosa is here. Jess. Hilarious.

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[Harley Quinn Smith]

Hey, what up, y'all?

[DJ Envy]

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[Caller]

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[DJ Envy]

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[Harley Quinn Smith]

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[Harley Quinn Smith]

DJ Envy are out right now, but we're talking Mel Robbins to Let Them Theory. You know, Mel was here last hour with us and if you don't know what to Let Them Theory is, it is a mindset tool that encourages you to stop trying to control or change others thoughts and behaviors. Instead you focus on your own peace and well being by accepting that others are free to make their own choices. Mel Robbins put it in a book called the Let Them Theory. It came out at the end of December. It sold I think damn near 4 million copies in, in 18 weeks. And you know, people are either applying the let them theory to their life, are realizing they've already applied it, but now they have the language to know what to call it. So let's go to the phone lines. Good morning. Who's this?

[Caller]

This is Crystal.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Peace. Crystal, how are you?

[Caller]

I'm blessed. How are you? King?

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Blessed, Black and highly favored. We talking to let Them Theory this morning. How have you applied the let them theory to your life, Crystal?

[Caller]

Well, I have applied the let them theory to my life to survive being an entrepreneur. I just quit my job in healthcare to focus on like being a serial entrepreneur. I went from songwriter to screenwriter and you know, there's a lot of discouraging things out here, but I let them doubt me. I let them do things on the Internet, try to make it seem like they're doing things and they're not. I try to let all my haters, you know, let them tear down because nothing they do is going to prosper anyway.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

That's right.

[Caller]

And I just try to stay proud, you know, I have other businesses too. But it's interesting because the more you, more people let you down, you know, because people will tell you, oh, I can do this for you. I got you. The more I become that for myself. So I have to literally figure out what I'm not getting and do it for myself. Because everybody who surrounds you are in their own world and it feels like they don't really care. Like people don't serve anymore. People don't want to serve you as an assistant. They want to be the star. So it's like, even if I get an assistant, they're probably not going to be loyal, you know, because everybody's so focused on themselves. So I just let everybody around me do them. And I wake up in the morning, and I give myself a plan, and I try to just stick to the plan and talk to myself throughout the day, you know, just saying, f them, man.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

You are absolutely right. You know, I want to tell you something about social media. The reason you should absolutely let people talk about you on social media. And you know, this. I. I talked about this when I was on Mel's podcast. Mel Robbins podcast. The algorithm don't know the difference. So you got a bunch of people that might be online talking bad about you, but then you'll have some people that are supporting you as well. Well. And all the algorithm knows is that your name is being mentioned. That's it. So it works for you anyway. It's to your benefit anyway, right?

[Caller]

Charlamagne, while we're on the topic of books and you love books, can we get, like, a book list from you? Because I'm trying to buy a bunch of books that are healthy for mental health and all that. So I just want to ask you that because I'm in my book reading days. I try not to. I try not to go to social media first thing every morning now. So as a part of my new entrepreneur life in screenwriting and film, I'm trying to feed myself a good thing.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Well, I'm gonna recommend you two books right now. Ego is the Enemy by Ryan Holiday and the Unapologetic Guide to Black mental health by Dr. Rita Walker. Got it.

[Caller]

Ooh, thank you.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Yes, ma'am.

[Caller]

All right. Thank you so much for y'all love and y'all goodness.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Absolutely. Let's take one more, Rhett. Let's take one more. Let's take one more. Good morning. Who's it this?

[Caller]

April.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Peace. April, how are you? Hi, how are you? Where you calling from?

[Caller]

From Atlanta.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Atl. We gonna be in Atlanta on April 26th for the third annual Black Effect Podcast Festival. So go get your tickets if you haven't gotten them already. Sarah, Jake Roberts will be on that stage doing her Woman of All podcast live. Okay. But we're here to talk. We're here to talk about Mel Robbins and the let them theory right now. How have you applied it to your life?

[Caller]

So I haven't read the book, but I did hear one of her podcasts where I became familiar with the letter them theory and applying that for myself. A lot of people, I feel, have slept on me and, you know, just kind of treat me a certain type of way. And I let them by continuing to be myself, showing up with love and light. And they. Eventually some of them have turned around and see the deep down that I'm just moving the way that I am. And that's how I. So they kind of change their perspective by just me being myself. I let them have their feelings and whatever for whatever reason, and I'm just letting them be them. And I'm continuing to move the way that I do.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

That's all you can do. Have a great day. You as well.

[Caller]

Thank y'all.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

And that's literally what the let them theory is. It's literally a mindset tool that encourages you to stop trying to control or change other people's thoughts, Thoughts and behaviors.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's it.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

You can't.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You can't.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

You can't. You cannot control other people. I tell y'all all the time, we wake up every single day and all we're trying to do is avoid crazy. And that crazy usually comes in the form of other people.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I thought you might say it usually comes from Florida.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

It does, though. That too. But we love Florida. We like going to Miami. We like going to Disney World. We know. So it's still the same thing. But listen, go out there and get Mel Robbins Elective Theory. She don't need me to promote her book. This book is, you know, selling like crack in the 80s, but it is a fantastic read and it's one of those books that I'm recommending to everybody.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You really are. You told me about it way before I even knew she was coming up here.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Because sometimes, you know, we forget. Like, to me, you just need these simple reminders. Like I always tell. We talk about the Serenity prayer all the time, right? And we know what the Serenity prayer is, but sometimes we forget that and we just need to be reminded that we're not in control of anything thing. So just let people be who they are.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You think we getting better? Cuz you yell at at us all the time. Us, Me, Jess, all the producers up here. You think we getting better?

[Harley Quinn Smith]

No. That's why I'mma keep yelling at y'all. Oh, not oh.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You just like to yell, talk about, tell people. I'm not a mean. You really just old and be yelling.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Like I told you that I think you. You got better. Okay, Jess needs work. Envy definitely needs work. It's still a little bit alone.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why didn't it.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

I'm just saying y'all care a little bit too much much about the opinions of other people. That's all.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

That's all.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's all me and my edges. We gonna be chilling.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

We got the latest with Lauren coming up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We do what you got? Vibes Cartel. He made history. He did it. The big return back to New York after 20 years. There are some big moments, including the fact that Drake gifted him this, like, ovo chain is one of two. Only him and him. Him and Drake have it. And I got all the details about everything. How long it took to make it. I got all the details.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

So hold on. It's only two chains.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Chains, yeah. So it's.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Well, tell me. Tell me when we come back. It's the latest with Lauren. We come back to the Breakfast Club. The Breakfast Club. That's right. It is the Breakfast Club. The world's most dangerous morning show. And now it's time for the Latest for Lauren LaRosa.

[DJ Envy]

Lauren becoming a straight face. She gets them from somebody that knows somebody.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

She be having the latest on have the peace.

[Caller]

The largest.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

The Latest with Lauren LaRosa. Sometimes you have facts, Sometimes you have details. Sometimes you have a little bit everything. What was the latest on the Breakfast Club? Talk to me what we got. LL Cool, baby.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Vibes. Cartel World boss, He returned to New York and he did his big US return. So this was his first US headlining show in over 20 years. So there were some pretty big moments out of the show. So he came out to his remix that he did to Akon's Locked up, which, of course was very monumental after everything that he's been through. And the crowd just embraced him. Crazy. Billboard actually is calling this show, like, the opening night alone because, you know, it was sold out. Crazy, right? They're calling the show one of the most memorable nights of live music in the Burrows storied history.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

I mean, listen, people worship Vibes Cartel. And, you know, after meeting him, I can understand why people. People enjoy him the way that he does.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was telling people that all weekend. Like, he is very personal. He's super funny. Like, he. I see the star, and a lot of times it's hard to pickle on that with certain artists. Let's take a listen to him in the Akon moment when he walked out on stage.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

I think Jamaicans should narrate everything. I'm not gonna lie. I thought about that the other day. I was at some airport and they had a Jamaican narrating calling people. You know what I'm saying?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The gate.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Oh, my God. That was so amazing. Now bonding get three gay tree outside. Yo. Jamaica should narrate everything.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, also throughout the night, he brought out some different people. Of course little Kim hit the stage one of the nights Neo Shinsia, Fab Spice. Of course he can't come and not bring the dance hall Queen Spice. He performed Summertime Clocks Fever, the Brooklyn Anthem. When he did the Brooklyn Anthem, he actually put on a Brooklyn Next jersey, but he had it on backwards. He had to like fix the jersey or whatever. But he also did his song Mama and he brought his mom out. When he did it, he goes down on one knee. It was just a good moment, you know, Cuz the song talks about everything they've been through and what they don't have to go through no more. And she's caressing him and they're in front of all these people. But there was a moment during the show where he got so emotional he couldn't finish a song. He was performing his song God is the Greatest and he broke down. Let's take a listen. Every.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Blessings around us. I may not care who like me.

[DJ Envy]

Because I sure love God.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

The Lord is around us and the blessings around us. I mean, can you imagine, right? You know, you've been in prison for 13 years thinking that you never gonna see, you know, the freedom again, right? And then you actually get freed. Of course. Absolutely.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Get free. And you sell out two back to back shows at the Barclays Center. 19, 000 people is what that stadium holds.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Come on, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Cardi B was also in attendance. DJ Envy won with his wife Gia. Now you know who also was there in tears? Safaree. Safaree was there in tears. He said, you know, Vibes is his, his hero. Seeing him on stage in that big return made him emotional. Why would you make me laugh? It was a really emotional moment for Safaree. But yeah, so shout out to Vibes.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

I don't have a problem with that. I saw people killing Safaree for that. But yo, Safaree has always shown and expressed his love for Vibes cartoon.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So why you laugh?

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Because I was thinking about something that happened last week when Vibes was here.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I know, exactly.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

So that's what I was laughing at.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think you. I don't know if you want to share it.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

No, I'm not.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, so another moment that happened. Vibes Cartel was gifted these OVO chains from Drake. They were like a surprise special gift from Vibes to Drake. Now I spoke to Alex Moss's team. Alex Moss is the jeweler who created these chains with Drake. And from What I'm told it took seven months to make. Drake came up with the idea and brought it to Alex to bring it to life because he wanted to, you know, give Vibes a big welcome home gift. Drake was involved in the process of customizing the jewelry from the beginning. Alex Most and his team work with Drake a lot, so he trusts Alex creative vision and his taste when it comes to taking the lead.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Why would Vibes want an owl?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Vibes is a. He's a huge supporter of Drake. He backed him in the Kendrick Lamar. He talks a lot about Drake.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

What that got to do with the owl, though? But continue.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's like, you know what I mean?

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Continue. So I can keep hating.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So it's a 14k character yellow gold. They have. They. They have like some camo on it and printed in it in diamonds because, you know, the whole Vibes of general. What else? There's so many details. Drake really took a time on this. There's only two created. There's one for Vibes Cartel and one for Drake himself. Drake, actually. Yeah.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Now, why is Vibes the only other person with that type of owl? What about Chops? What about Force supreme and Baka? They would like a new owl.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's something special for the world, boss.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Wow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Don't do that.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Why can't they have an owl nobody else has?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They probably do. You all in their owl business. You want one, Boo?

[Harley Quinn Smith]

No, I don't.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Like, why just him and Drake?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

I'm just trying to figure this out. Like, what's the connection?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He's a huge icon that he looks up to, but yeah, so it was a good gift. I tried to get the pricing, but they ain't doing all that. They said it's a pricing. So shout out to Drake on that gift because that was super viral and it's a great owl. Now, as we wrap up, can I do one of the clips that we have really quick? I also wanted to answer the question. A lot of you guys are trying to figure out why Joe Tacopino, who is now representing Wendy on the personal attorney side, was denied the ability to go to dinner with Wendy. I feel like some people thought that this was a retaliation thing from her conservatorship. Well, Joe Tecopena called in to talk to us exclusively today to explain it. Let's take a listen.

[Caller]

There may have been motivating factor to Sabrina Morrissey canceling that dinner, which could have included the fact that I was there because the last thing they want to do, guys, is see me inside that courtroom. I'm not going to be gentle about how Wendy's being treated as far as that dinner. Wendy, myself and Alex were supposed to have dinner that night at the last minute, literally. As Wendy was rested and ready to leave her room, she was told she couldn't go by Sabrina Morrissey because Alex was testifying the next day at a hearing. So therefore she couldn't see Wendy in person that night. So if the whole point was they couldn't get together the night before her testimony, as if somehow Wendy would influence Alex's testimony, which is ridiculous, it wouldn't really make sense to cancel that dinner because they could have just been on the phone while I don't know if they knew I was going to be at that dinner. It just seems highly coincidental.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Baby, they got Wendy in a chokehold over there, don't they? They are trying to show her something. We also, we real quick, we also asked them too, about the money because we were trying to figure out, you know, Wendy's been saying that Sabrina uses her money to hire these high powered attorneys and blah, blah, blah, blah. So I was like, well, wait, so Sabrina's letting her pay you? Because if they don't want you there, they ain't gonna let the money flow. And he said that that has. Sabrina's not paying him. Wendy's family is actually, you know, and him are taking care of that. But he would, he didn't want to go into it. He said that that's something between him and the family. He's not worried about the money right now. He just tried trying to make sure Wendy's straight.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

I'm sure we'll hear more on the latest with Lauren podcast.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, period. You know, some of these clips is going right on over there. And I told y'all in today's episode that we would have Joe call in. So I hope you guys have enjoyed the bounce between the two platforms. And we do got some more exclusive clips from my conversation with Joe Tecopena that will be on tomorrow morning's episode of the Latest with Lauren LaRosa the podcast.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Make sure you subscribe to the latest with Lauren LaRosa on the Black Effect iHeartRadio podcast network. And speaking of that, we have the third annual annual Black Effect Podcast Festival happening Saturday, April 26th in Atlanta at Pullman Yards. Go get your tickets@black effect.com podcast festival. Some of your favorite podcasts are going to be on that stage. Tank and J. Valentine will be on there with the R B Money podcast. Sarah, Jake Roberts will be on there with the Woman Evolved podcast, plus a whole lot more. So go to black effect.com podcast festival to get your tickets. And the People's Choice mix with DJ Envy is up next. You're checking out the Breakfast Club.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

It's the world's most dangerous morning show tonight. The Breakfast Club. Charlemagne. The God, Lauren LaRosa. DJ Envy is gone. He had to go out doing some book trapping. And Jess. Jess's son's born day is the day. Ashton, right? Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's either today.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Yeah, I think. Yeah. Ashton turns 13 today, so happy born day to Ashton. I'm sure Jess is doing a lot of great things for him down in Baltimore. And salute to Baltimore. I was in Baltimore all weekend for my daughter's cheerleading tournament, man. Had a great time in Baltimore. I want to salute Carly at Nick's Fish House. Man, Carly, thank you for the love that you showed me and my wife at Nick's Fish House this past weekend. You see, I'm rocking the Nick's Fish House merchandise.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Big merch.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Big merch.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, I like the back of that. Yes, that's fire.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

They asked me if I wanted a hoodie. I'm like, hell, yeah. You know, because I show love to people who show love to me. So, Carly, thank you for the love this weekend. Thank you for the merch and just the hospitality y'all showed us at Nick's Fish House. You got something going on, Doctor?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, we got a lot going on. The podcast is here. Please continue to download it on everywhere you get podcast audio, the iHeart app. You can also now watch it. It is a delayed watch. I'll be on my body. But I like that, though, every day after the audio. So 24 hours after the audio, you can watch it. But I do post clips the day of on my social media.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

You post the video 24 hours after.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The audio in full, but I post social media. Eclipse, day of. We're working on it because at first it was 48, so, you know, it.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Should be day of.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We're working on it.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

But what are you going to the doctor for?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm going to doctor because it is the HBCU Black Alumni Weekend. And, you know, whenever something lit in this hbcu, they bring me out to have a good time.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

I thought you was going for a bbl. I'm like, come on, I don't even.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Have enough weight on my body because.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Some things happen like that, you know, people, you. You know, you're getting a little love out here in these streets and all of A sudden. Now you want to have plastic surgery like, yo, chill.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Now I got to get. No, I'm not.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

You don't have to do that at all.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You don't have to tell me because I'm not going there.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Just making sure.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, Okay.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

I heard you say in the initials. I wasn't paying attention. It was hbcu.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. I know you ain't graduate from nowhere because. What are you even talking about?

[Harley Quinn Smith]

That's right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

HBCU. Black Alumni Weekend, May 22nd through the 27th. I will be there memorialday getaway.com. let them know at checkout. You can select who referred you. Lauren LaRosa referred you. And come out, have a good time with me. Bring your friends. It's gonna be good.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

All right. So, yes, go check that out. Join Lauren LaRosa Memorial Day weekend in the Doctor. When we come back, we got the positive note. It's the Breakfast Club. Yep. It's the world's most dangerous morning show. The Breakfast Club Charlemagne. The God. Lauren LaRosa, DJ Envy. He's out doing some book trapping. His new book comes out tomorrow. Real life, Real family. Him and his wife, Gia Casey. So you'll see them out and about doing a PR thing, I think. What did he say he was going to do?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Believe, like, Good Day, New York or something like that. They've been doing some podcasts. I know they did. I think they did. I don't know if I could say which ones they did. They did some podcasts, too. Like, sit down.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

All right, well, you'll see them out and about and just hilarious. Ashton's her son. His born day is the day he turns 13. So happy born day to Ashton, man. And we gotta thank the mighty Mel Robbins for pulling up her new book. The Let Them Theory is available everywhere. You buy books now. It's so damn near 4 million copies and 18 weeks.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's power.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

You know how crazy that is?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That is. That's power. That is like. That is so, like, people have to go get a book or go and find it and pay for it and download it. That's like having to go buy a cd.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Yes. So salute to Mel Robbins. I actually did her podcast. It came out last week. I did it back in March, but it came out last week, man. So, you know, go check me out on the Mel Robbins podcast and make sure you go check out Mel Robbins on the Breakfast Club Club. Whether it's the Breakfast Club podcast. Our Breakfast Club YouTube page available right now, actually. And my positive note is a quote from Mel Robbins Mel Robbins once said, start before you're ready. Don't prepare. Begin. You are one decision away from a completely different life and your feelings don't matter. The only thing that matters is what you do. Have a blessed day.

[DJ Envy]

Breakfast Club.

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Lauren LaRosa]

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[Kevin Smith]

And it's me, Harley Quinn Smith.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

That's my daughter, man, who my wife.

[Kevin Smith]

Has always said is just a beardless d Ckless version of me.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

And that's the name of our podcast.

[Kevin Smith]

Beardless Dick was me.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

I'm the old one, I'm the young one.

[Kevin Smith]

And every week we try to make.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Each other laugh really hard. Sounds innocent, doesn't it?

[Kevin Smith]

Lot of cussing, a lot of bad language. It's for adults only.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Or listen to it with your kid.

[Kevin Smith]

Could be a family show. We're not quite sure. We're still figuring it out. It's a work in progress.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Listen to Beardless me on the iHeartRadio.

[Kevin Smith]

App, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.