FULL SHOW: Jane Doe From R. Kelly Trial Speaks Out, Cam'ron Finally Addresses "Issues" With J. Cole + LaRussell Interview

Summary

The Breakfast Club: Episode Summary

Date: February 4, 2026
Episode: FULL SHOW: Jane Doe From R. Kelly Trial Speaks Out, Cam'ron Finally Addresses "Issues" With J. Cole + LaRussell Interview
Hosts: DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God
Guests: LaRussell, Lauren LaRosa, Mimi Brown

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EPISODE OVERVIEW

This episode of The Breakfast Club is a dynamic mix of social commentary, entertainment news, audience interaction, and a standout artist interview. The show’s main topics include: an interview with LaRussell about his independent music grind and industry experiences, insights into the R. Kelly trial from Jane Doe (Rashauna Lanfair), Cam’ron’s candid response to ongoing issues with J. Cole, and conversations on current trends and recent news stories. The episode also features lively phone-in segments and the hosts’ unfiltered takes on marriage, parenting, and pop culture.

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KEY DISCUSSION POINTS & INSIGHTS

Health, Life, and The Breakfast Club Banter (02:25–05:51)

• The hosts kick off with light-hearted conversation about health, cholesterol, and aging.
  • Charlamagne on aging: “As a person who takes a statin every day... When you get to my age, 47, those are the things we think about.” (02:49)
• Brief mention of current headlines, e.g., the Savannah Guthrie kidnapping story, with speculation and jokes.

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Front Page News: Politics, Government Funding, Trump, and Social Media Safety (05:53–15:01)

• Mimi Brown reports Congress has narrowly avoided a government shutdown by passing a short-term funding bill, but warns of future deadlines and partisan gridlock (06:41).
• President Trump advocates for federal control of voting processes, with concern over claims of fraud and calls for nationalizing elections (09:27–11:38).
  • Charlamagne criticizes the idea: “Once again, wiping his ass with the Constitution. Why nationalize voting? Why do you think he wants to do that?” (09:31)
• Discussion about the proposal for ICE agents at polling stations, raising anxiety over potential intimidation (12:05).
• Important parenting warning about dangers of children interacting with strangers through gaming platforms like Roblox and Snapchat, illustrated by a recent kidnapping case (34:27–36:46).

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Hot Topics: Music, Culture, and Sports (13:03–14:10, 34:00–41:00)

• Listeners chime in on J. Cole’s new album, sparking playful host rivalry and fan excitement.
• Angela Yee and the team analyze recent NBA trades, particularly James Harden being traded to the Cleveland Cavaliers, questioning Harden's ability to win a championship (08:08, 33:36, 34:00).
  • Charlamagne: “Kobe Bryant was absolutely right about James Harden. You're never going to win a championship with that style of basketball.” (34:06)

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LaRussell Interview: Independence, Innovation, and Community (42:09–57:40)

The Independent Hustle (42:17–44:14)

• LaRussell discusses his "100,000 Album Challenge" – selling 100k albums independently on a pay-what-you-want model.
  • LaRussell: “We hit 21,000 in 30 days... there’s major artists that can’t sell that amount, so we’ve already surpassed it.” (42:17)

Fan and Industry Support (43:24–47:36)

• High-profile supporters include Kyrie Irving, Snoop Dogg, John Belian, Snow Tha Product, Cedric the Entertainer, and Raphael Saadiq.
• The ethos: “It’s not free. It’s priceless... that's a priceless experience to contribute to, no matter what.” (47:27)

Musical Evolution and Bay Area Representation (45:00–46:34)

• Explains his diverse sound, from lyricism to hyphy Bay Area vibes, aiming for wider regional representation.
  • “I wanted something that represents us, the Bay. We haven’t had dominance in a long time.” (46:38)

Industry Stories: Labels, Deals, and Roc Nation (48:46–54:40)

• Relates experiences with label offers and ultimately signing to Roc Nation while keeping his independence.
  • “Roc Nation still allows you to have independence completely... There was no way I would go over there without it.” (54:40)
• Offers cautionary tales about major label deals lacking transparency.

Creative Community & Legacy (56:21–57:33)

• Emphasizes impact over monetary success: “How many people I affect while I'm here, that’s what my success is gauged by.”
• Shares building his brand with family, community, and the power of local support.

Memorable Moments & Freestyle (64:18–65:41)

• LaRussell delivers an intimate freestyle about family, struggle, and growth (“Pops used to whoop a black and burgundy suburban…”) (64:18).

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Jane Doe from R. Kelly Trial (Rashauna Lanfair) Speaks Out (72:30–79:56)

• Rashauna Lanfair (“Shorty”) discusses her experience as the minor seen in the infamous R. Kelly tape.
  • She describes being failed by family, the music industry, and law enforcement.
  • On her aunt’s (Sparkle) role: “Aunt Sparkle explained that I should sit on his lap and rub his head while I asked him to be my godfather… That is the start of him entering my life in a different way.” (73:44)
• Interview touches on the enduring trauma, public ridicule, and her journey to reclaim her narrative with her new book Who's Watching Shorty.
  • “I wish things could have been done differently. But those are all of the things that I had to internalize.” (77:36)

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Cam’ron vs. J. Cole – The Industry Runaround (109:09–110:41)

• Cam’ron addresses his frustration with J. Cole about delays in reciprocating a favor, feeling stonewalled with excuses about chakras and schedules.
  • Cam’ron: “Let’s put you all into it then. I say, you know what? Forget the record. Let’s do an interview... I got a project coming out in June. Let’s do it around there. Cool. June is coming—Oh, we push the album back… Now this is when all the beef is going on with Kendrick Lamar. I can't do it now because I don’t feel like talking about that right now...” (109:09)
• Voluntarily dismissed lawsuit; business is business.

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Social Topics & Audience Calls: Marriage, Living Apart, and Relationship Trauma (88:30–106:40)

• Kiki Palmer’s take on not living with a spouse sparks debate:
  • “One thing I need you to know is that I never want to live together. I like my alone time… even if I'm married.” (89:35)
• Hosts and callers weigh in. Some argue it’s rooted in trauma or specific lifestyles; most hosts disagree for themselves.
  • Charlamagne: “What's the point of being married if you're not under the same roof?... that's how you build deep intimacy with a person.” (93:08)
• Callers share personal stories of non-traditional relationships, sometimes as a response to prior hurt.

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News Updates – Savannah Guthrie’s Mother Kidnapping Case (107:07–108:48)

• Lauren LaRosa reports updates: NBC beefing up security, signs pointing to possible inside involvement, last seeing Guthrie's mother alive at dinner with her daughter and son-in-law.
  • “Police have said that they do feel like she was abducted and potentially targeted... They did say that some cameras were missing.” (108:21, 108:43)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Charlamagne on political gridlock:
  "America is broke. What a poor ass country. Living check to check. That's crazy." (08:41)

• LaRussell on independence:
  “Freedom. You know, every label situation I was getting offered early didn’t allow me the ability to do what I did... I released 43 albums since 2021, dropped 43 albums in five years.” (48:55)

• Angela Yee on trauma for R. Kelly’s victims:
  “Could you imagine going to school every day and people making fun of you and you can’t get away from that.” (77:59)

• On Cam'ron vs. J. Cole:
  “If someone does something for you in a timely manner and y’all agree, favor for a favor, when Cam reached out... you should repay that favor.” – Charlamagne (110:16)

• Caller on living apart:
  “We have dated for about six years... I sleep with him, he sleeps with me every night. We're not sitting here like... not together. There's no trauma... There's no trauma, associated with not wanting to live together.” (94:31)

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Other Pop Culture & News Highlights

• Warnings about online dangers for kids – Roblox/Snapchat kidnapping case.
• Black churches’ security in the face of disruptions; comparison of law enforcement response between Black and white churches.
• Briefly: Sherri Shepherd’s show canceled after Covid diagnosis; mention of Nicki Minaj’s Trump support and community backlash (22:15–25:01).

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TIMESTAMPS FOR KEY SEGMENTS

• [02:25] – Show opens; health, aging, “hump day” conversation
• [06:41] – Front page news: Government shutdown update
• [09:27] – Trump's election/comments; nationalizing elections discussed
• [34:00] – Sports: James Harden trade
• [42:09] – LaRussell interview segment begins
• [64:18] – LaRussell freestyle
• [72:30] – Discussion of R. Kelly victim (Jane Doe/Rashauna Lanfair)
• [88:30] – Kiki Palmer’s marriage/living apart sparks debate
• [107:07] – Savannah Guthrie kidnapping update
• [109:09] – Cam’ron on J. Cole drama

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CONCLUSION

This episode is packed with lively debates, breaking news, and cultural discussion, all delivered in the Breakfast Club’s signature unfiltered, humorous style. Standout segments include LaRussell’s honest and insightful interview about music industry independence; Rashauna Lanfair’s moving testimony about reclaiming her identity; and relatable, sometimes heated, conversations about relationships and trauma. Listeners are treated to both entertainment and thoughtful commentary on the complexities of fame, justice, parenting, and personal growth.

Transcript

[Lauren LaRosa]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[DJ Envy]

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[Angela Yee]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wake you up.

[Angela Yee]

Wake that ass up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Program your alarm to power 105.1 on iheartradio.

[Angela Yee]

Good morning, USA.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yo, yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo, Yo, Yo.

[Angela Yee]

Just running a little late. Charlemagne the con.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Peace to the planet. Guess what day it is. Guess what day it is. Hump day. How y' all feel out there? I feel blessed, black and highly favored. Happy to be here another day to serve our beautiful listeners. Good morning.

[Angela Yee]

Good morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And listen, man. Salute to everybody waking up this morning grateful for life but thinking about their cholesterol. Okay, now, as a person who takes statin every day.

[LaRussell]

Oh.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was on the elevator coming up, and I saw a video that said, a bowl of oatmeal a day will keep your LDL cholesterol low. And I said to myself, I never knew that, but that's what I eat for breakfast every morning. And when you get to my age, 47 years old, those are the things we think about. And you know what? Those are good problems to have. You know why? Why? Because you're still alive to have.

[Angela Yee]

That's right. That's true. That's right. My cholesterol is good and my blood pressure is amazing. Thank God.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Blood pressure's amaz. Have one of those at the house. That's another thing, too. When you was born in 1978, you gotta keep a low blood pressure machine at the house, just in case. I'm telling you, man, people are passing away from heart attacks and strokes, younger and younger now. So you just gotta keep a high blood pressure thing at the house just in case. Yes, just in case.

[Angela Yee]

Now, have you been following this Nancy Guthrie story?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I keep seeing it pop up on my tv, but I have no idea what's going on. I just know the names Nancy Guthrie and Savannah Guthrie.

[Angela Yee]

I don't know what's going on. I'm kind of like you, but it's been popping up so much. I want to know. Like, there's a kidnapping, there's a ransom note, there was blood found. This is like a Lifetime movie.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'll catch it on the true crime podcast. In the future, it might be. What's going on? I don't know.

[Angela Yee]

I don't.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know. I'm saying in the future. Maybe it already. Maybe this is the Future. How long ago did this happen?

[Angela Yee]

This happened a couple days ago. This lady, I guess her mother got. They believed kidnapped, and there's a ransom note, and they found blood in the house. And now they're trying to figure out who done it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. God bless them, man. Lauren. Lauren LaRosa came in the office the other day and was trying to tell me about it. And I was like, I'm over here looking at my cholesterol, talking about something.

[Angela Yee]

Can you talk about something else, please?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Please.

[LaRussell]

Yeah.

[Angela Yee]

I'm just curious about it. When anytime somebody gets kidnapped or something happens like that, I just want to.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Know how it happened. It's too much going on in the world. It's too much going on in the world.

[Angela Yee]

It's interesting.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I feel like I've been seeing them names for a long time, though. Nancy and Savannah Gunther. I feel like this happened a while ago to them.

[Angela Yee]

Again, I don't know the story.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know.

[Angela Yee]

I just been popping.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I just saw something. The mama got taken or something like that.

[Angela Yee]

The mama got taken, but I think she.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The mama got kidnapped. You know what? Don't quote me. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Leave me alone.

[Angela Yee]

I was hoping that you do that. You could.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But you don't know. I don't. Not even a little bit.

[Angela Yee]

Well, let's get the show cracking. LaRussa will be joining us this morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

My guy, La Russell. Now, I know something about the Russell. The Russell has launched a campaign to sell 100,000 copies of his album Something's in the Water. And he's opening up the super bowl tailgate concert this weekend. And I love the Russell, man. My guy Hovain. Rest in peace. To Hovain. Hovain, a few years ago, told me to listen to this kid freestyle.

[LaRussell]

That's right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He sent me the. He sent me the record. It was called. I think it was a 20, 21 freestyle. And I didn't listen to it at the time. And Hovan hit me back. I was like, I know you ain't listening to that freestyle. Cause he knew if I heard it.

[Angela Yee]

That's right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I would have been like, yo, who.

[Angela Yee]

Is this Bay Area artist? He gets busy. He can spit. And we gonna talk a little bit. All right, well, let's get the show cracking.

[LaRussell]

Jess.

[Angela Yee]

Just walking. Hopefully Jess didn't park in the middle of the street and block everybody again.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know.

[Angela Yee]

Cause she got up here too fast.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, I woke up this morning, too, man. The good brother Nipsey Hussle was on my spirit, dropping the clues. Bonds for Nipsey Hussle. Long live Nip man. What? You want to have to show us some hustle and motivate, man? Okay, okay.

[Angela Yee]

Turn it up a little bit.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's my motto always. This should be yours, too. Hustle and motivate, Jeremy.

[Angela Yee]

Mr. Breakfast Club, good morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Long live Nipsey Hussle, man.

[Angela Yee]

Absolutely.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hustle the hobo way.

[Angela Yee]

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlamagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page news.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Is that real tiger skin?

[Mimi Brown]

What?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Is that real tiger skin on your hat?

[Mimi Brown]

In my hat?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No. Okay. Just wondering because I will call Peter right now. Oh, my goodness.

[Angela Yee]

All right. Well, the Clippers traded James Harden to the Cleveland Cavaliers. That's in exchange for Darius Garland and a 2026 second round draft pick. Is that a good trade or bad trade?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I have no idea. I could care less. Jerry Harden has been on six teams in his whole NBA career. It means nothing. Kobe Bryant was absolute right about James Harden. You're never going to win a championship with that style of basketball.

[Angela Yee]

But Darius Garland, I mean, Cleveland, he was. He was a big thing for Cleveland. Like he was part of the debates. When it came to Cleveland, I have.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No idea about anything. I'm not going to sit here and act like I know about anything going on. Cleveland, he was.

[Angela Yee]

I'm just curious if Cleveland fans like it or hate it. Anyway, what's up, Mimi?

[News Reporter]

Good morning. MB Jess. Charlemagne. How y' all doing this morning?

[Guest/Caller]

Peace.

[Angela Yee]

Mimi.

[Mimi Brown]

Hey, girl.

[News Reporter]

Good morning. So we start this morning with some relief on Capitol Hill. A government shutdown has been avoided, at least for now. This is after lawmakers approved a short term funding bill. So President Trump, he signed a bill ending that partial government shutdown, reopening most federal agents agencies. After days of disruption at the House, they narrowly passed the bill Tuesday after the Senate approved it last week. It funds major parts of the government, including defense, education, transportation, and health and human services through the end of the fiscal year, which is in September. But this is only a short term fix. Congress now has just 10 days to prevent another government shutdown. This one, though, focused entirely on the Department of Homeland Security. And right now there's a little. There's little confidence that this deal can be done. Let's listen to Speaker Mike Johnson.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Of the demands that were made, the requests that were made, many of those are already being implemented. You notice that they're going to have the body Cameras we put 20 million additional dollars in this legislation. These are, these are good things. The roving patrols will be modified. And remember, we did front load the funding for Immigration Customs Enforcement and CBP in the big beautiful bill, so they have enough funding to go for the next few years. So what they will be tying up, if the Democrats choose to close the government, is these very essential services for everything else. Fema, Coast Guard, TSA, and other aspects of national security. So it's a very dangerous game that they're playing. Why is this fight happening every couple of weeks?

[News Reporter]

Maybe it's happening every couple of weeks because they cannot agree on an overall spending package. And so they're, they're piecemealing it together just to get by just a little bit. And so here we are again. We'll be back here in another two weeks, and then we'll be back here in September. So it just, you know, the Republicans and Democrats, they just need to agree on what should be in these packages to fund the government. But it just keeps changing with, you know, different bills that people keep introducing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

America is broke. What a poor ass country. Living check to check. That's crazy.

[News Reporter]

That's basically what we are doing, right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

America is living check.

[News Reporter]

When you put it like that, we are definitely living check to check. So while the lights are back on across most of the government today, that clock is ticking toward the next deadline. So we'll see if that one happens within the next 10 days. Meanwhile, President Trump is again pushing for a much bigger federal role in how elections are running. This is coming as the 2026 midterm elections, they get closer. So in a podcast interview, Trump said Republicans should move to nationalize voting in parts of the country, arguing the federal government should have a bigger role. Let's take a listen to that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The Republicans should say we want to take over.

[LaRussell]

We should take over the voting.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The voting in at least many 15 places. The Republicans ought to nationalize the voting. Once again, wiping his ass with the Constitution. Okay, that's, I mean, like, why, why nationalize the voting? Why do you think he wants to do that?

[News Reporter]

You know, it's a really good question. And the White House was asked about that. And we're going to play that in just a second. But I just want to say that these comments come just days after the FBI, they searched that election office in Fulton County. We talked about that last week. That was part of the Justice Department, their investigation into the alleged voter fraud. Now, Fulton county, they have long said that they have been a part of Trump's false Claims of that the 2020 election, they were rigged. They say that their, their elections were not rigged. They were certified several times over and verified several times over. But Trump, he keeps, you know, coming back to Fulton county looking for those, I think it was about 12,000 votes. So he suggested that those court ordered access to those ballots could review, could reveal new findings. And so he took the ballots. Last week, former Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard, she confirmed that Trump personally directed her to travel to Atlanta and connect with FBI and involve him, Trump himself in that case. That's of course, according to sources familiar with the matter. And as you just said, traditionally the, you know, our elections, they are state and local elections. They're not run by the federal government. Now, the White House, she was asked to clarify that. White House Secretary Caroline Levitt, what, what the President meant by that. Let's listen to what she had to say.

[Lauren LaRosa]

What the President was referring to is the SAVE Act. It provides very common sense measures for voting in our country, such as voter id.

[News Reporter]

To be clear, he does believe the state should oversee.

[Lauren LaRosa]

The President believes in the United States Constitution. However, he believes there has obviously been a lot of fraud and irregularities that have taken place in American elections. You look at states like California or if you look at New York City, for example, non citizens are allowed to vote in elections. That just creates a system, an electoral system that is absolutely ripe with fraud. And you cannot deny the fact that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Unfortunately there are millions of people who.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Have questions about that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, so have they done any investigations to prove any of this fraud? Where are they getting this exactly?

[Angela Yee]

Social media?

[News Reporter]

Exactly. That is the question. Where are they getting these, these quote, air, quote, facts from, you know, so we will continue to watch that. But now state officials, they're preparing for the possibility of federal involvement at polling places as we get closer to the midterm election.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, yeah, I saw Steve Bannon propose yesterday that they should use ICE agents in elections. Like they should have ICE agents at the polling places, which, I mean, anybody that was paying attention saw that coming a couple of weeks ago. I asked Governor Westmore that last week.

[News Reporter]

Yeah, well, you know, you never know. You can take nothing off the table right now with the administration. All right, well, coming up at 7, a case involving Roblox and Snapchat that every parent needs to hear but police say started as a chat online, turned into something more serious. We'll talk about it in seven.

[Angela Yee]

All right, everybody else, get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[LaRussell]

This is your time to get it off your chest.

[Guest/Caller]

800-585-1051.

[Angela Yee]

We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hello? Who's this? What's up?

[Angela Yee]

Yo, Trav. How do you get through each and every morning?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The back door. Y' all know this already.

[Angela Yee]

Like, this is ridiculous.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What's up, J?

[Mimi Brown]

Hey, baby.

[DJ Envy]

I just want to wish everybody a happy jcole Eve.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I hope y' all got y jcole shopping done. Why is it jcole eve?

[Angela Yee]

We had to go shop jcole Eve, sir.

[Mimi Brown]

What's the shopping? What we had to buy.

[DJ Envy]

Get the vinyl, get your hoodies, like.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Get the scullies, get everything you need, know. I mean, because J. Paul is coming in the morning.

[DJ Envy]

Y' all.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Drop your presents off.

[DJ Envy]

First of all, sir, don't stop yourself.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That sounds crazy, though. I'm looking forward to listening to J. Cole album. I mean, J. Cole album is a big deal. It's a big deal.

[DJ Envy]

Don't go in trying to listen, to be negative.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Go in and just listen to some good music, some good rapping, some good technical skills. I'll go ahead and try to listen for nothing else. I go in. I go in with an objective here all the time. I don't have no dog in this fight.

[DJ Envy]

All right? And you know how you be.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, I don't. No, I don't know how to be. You just don't want me to. You just want me to d ride him like you do. Wow.

[Angela Yee]

No, I know. Well, I'm excited to hear the album.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I ain't de.

[Angela Yee]

I just want to hear the album, man. I'm excited to hear his project, but.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right. Y' all happy jco Eve?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Y' all happy JCO Eve?

[Angela Yee]

All right, man.

[LaRussell]

Have a good one. Hello?

[Angela Yee]

Who's this?

[DJ Envy]

Jersey.

[Angela Yee]

Get it off your chest.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What up, man?

[DJ Envy]

Hey, Envy, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I got. Throwing the picture, man.

[LaRussell]

Pause.

[Angela Yee]

What's up from Dom?

[Caller]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Major ball.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. He's Dominican.

[Angela Yee]

Dominica G. Yeah, he's from Dominica.

[DJ Envy]

You still ain't playing no booyo track.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who? Booty did what? No, there's no booty nothing.

[LaRussell]

It's bon.

[Angela Yee]

It's this type of music. It's like a genre of music.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what, cuz?

[Angela Yee]

I'm not really tapped into it. You should DM me some songs.

[DJ Envy]

You.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, you ain't about to look at your DMs.

[Angela Yee]

You got. I'm telling you, DM me some songs so I can. I can download Some of them DM.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Me now tap it is booty, man.

[DJ Envy]

You top five spiciest in the world.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, I am.

[Guest/Caller]

Thank you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Top three. I'm glad you know.

[Angela Yee]

I'm serious. DM me some music.

[LaRussell]

I met. I ran into a couple of booyah.

[Angela Yee]

Artists when I was out in Dominica, but, yeah, send me some music. Tell me what's up.

[DJ Envy]

I got you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What do you say? You like I like your booyah?

[Angela Yee]

What?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What do you do?

[Angela Yee]

How do you say it's like a genre music, Like Afro beats? No, it's not Booyaka. It's like a. It feels like a calypso type of music.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So you say, I like your booyah.

[Angela Yee]

No, I don't like nobody.

[Mimi Brown]

Why are you trying to say I like you Booyah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You say something again, I'mma call Peter. You know. You know I got Ingrid number. That's my girl. The CEO Ingrid. The CEO of Peter. Keep playing. Yeah, she's been up here a couple. Okay. That's my girl.

[LaRussell]

Yeah, a clown.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, all right. I'll call Ingrid right now.

[Angela Yee]

Get it off.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Ingrid Newkirk. I'll call her right now.

[Lauren LaRosa]

On you.

[Angela Yee]

800-585-1051. If you need the vent, hit us up now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's a new day.

[Angela Yee]

This is your time to get it off your chest.

[LaRussell]

Wake.

[LaRussell (rap segment)]

Wake up.

[LaRussell]

Whether you're mad or blast, it's time.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

To get up and get something.

[LaRussell]

Call up now.

[Guest/Caller]

800-585-1051.

[Angela Yee]

We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Hello.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who's this?

[Caller]

DJ Envy. Oh, my God.

[Angela Yee]

What's up?

[DJ Envy]

Who's this?

[Caller]

K A Y D E E. Don't forget that's like.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, we don't got nothing to do. We don't got nothing else to do on this show, but listen to you. We got you. We got all the time in the world.

[DJ Envy]

Okay.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Hey, Jess.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, DJ Envy.

[Mimi Brown]

Hey, boo.

[Caller]

Are you a Starbucks okay?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Am I okay?

[Caller]

Why would you think that, stud? Piata funnels. You're actually insane.

[Mimi Brown]

What? What you say.

[DJ Envy]

Because.

[Caller]

Why would you say that?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What? What? When did I say studs? Fiata funnels.

[Angela Yee]

What? You said that?

[Guest/Caller]

I don't know.

[Caller]

You said it on the Brilliant Idiot. Because I listen to the podcast and I'm a lesbian, and I can't believe you said that. Studs do not do that.

[Angela Yee]

You said studs.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Now, that is not true. There are a couple of studs who walk around with that thing on them all the time, and they go Bathroom. They come. They go to the bathroom and pee standing up.

[Angela Yee]

I never heard of that.

[Mimi Brown]

Oh, shut up. That is not true.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Mimi Brown]

We was talking about a funnel, and they attached the funnel and peed through it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Angela Yee]

Shut up.

[Caller]

Yo, I just wanted to shout out to 757. I'm calling from the 757. Shout out to everybody. 757. You already know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Caller]

And I love y'.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All. We love y', all, too. And we love all.

[Caller]

I love you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I love you more. I love all the studs in the 757. That look like pushy. TM, Mal.

[LaRussell (rap segment)]

It is.

[Mimi Brown]

That look like push. I ain't lying. I ain't lying.

[Angela Yee]

What is wrong with y', all? Yo? Oh, my God.

[LaRussell]

Hello?

[DJ Envy]

Who's this?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yo, what up? Yo, this D1.

[Angela Yee]

What up, D1? Get it off your chest.

[Mimi Brown]

Good morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Good morning. My bad. Good morning, Jess. Hey, I wanted to. I wanted to say two things real quick, so don't cut me off. But yesterday when the brat was on.

[DJ Envy]

There, she was talking about she made her girl 11 times, right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Traumatized you started hating.

[DJ Envy]

Envy and Charlemagne looked at each other like, huh?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because he asked what type of toy.

[DJ Envy]

You use, but she said, no toy. She used it. Did you ever figure out what she was doing?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, now you want to know? She said herself. She said, that's on her. But I'm gonna tell you why. We can't put too much pressure on ourselves as men when it comes to that. Women know each other's body, so it's always a cheat code when women are with other women, bro. It's just some things we ain't gonna be able to learn. You know what I'm saying?

[DJ Envy]

Confused. Look like if she used to go. Another thing, though, I wanted to holler.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

At you, Shell man, about this book I'm writing, man. It's called Product of My Environment. Okay. Young black kids, not black, but poverty.

[DJ Envy]

Kids in the ghetto.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And like, how people can dictate how, like LeBron, you get a LeBron James or you get a good kid trying.

[DJ Envy]

To sell drugs, or it shows five different ways of how kids come out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The ghetto and how they like parents, the kids with no parents, making sure a parent that got good parents and go to prison for selling drugs.

[DJ Envy]

And they just give a description of why these kids are doing that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And it's just a book I just.

[DJ Envy]

Want to write about so people can understand why kids.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Certain kids go to route.

[LaRussell]

They go.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And the decisions they make is based on their environment. I love that idea. I'm gonna tell Eddie. Get your information. Is Eddie over there?

[Angela Yee]

Hold on. We'll get his information. Hold on.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'll put you on hold. And get your information, my brother.

[Angela Yee]

Get it off your chest. 800-585-105. You need the event. You can hit us up now. We got the latest with Lauren coming up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Lauren not here.

[Angela Yee]

She not here.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I feel like I passed Lauren on the highway and I was wondering why the hell she was going the direction she was going.

[Guest/Caller]

The wrong.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Maybe that wasn't her. I thought that was her.

[Mimi Brown]

He thinks she is the dumbest person in the world.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I do not think Lauren is the dumbest person in the world. Just America. Oh, my goodness.

[Mimi Brown]

There she go.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

My girl. What's up, my niece?

[Angela Yee]

He said he does not think you're.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The dumbest person in the world.

[Angela Yee]

He said he does not think you do.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I would never just said that Lauren's the dumbest person in the world.

[Mimi Brown]

He said that he was driving in this morning and thought he saw you on driving down the wrong side of the damn street.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I did not say the wrong side. I said I wondered why you was going that direction. Oh, I feel like I passed you and you was going to. I was like, why? You just didn't make the left turn, that's all.

[Lauren LaRosa]

On what street was it?

[Angela Yee]

It wasn't you, cuz. You were way behind.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, shoot. You stopped at CVS this morning to get some earrings.

[Mimi Brown]

Go ahead, Lauren.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Lauren ain't no joke.

[Angela Yee]

Like, you just left the club.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Lauren ain't no trouble.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You went to a premiere last night.

[Angela Yee]

You never took your battle.

[DJ Envy]

No.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You went to go see Relationship. That's Relationship goals, right?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes. And I saw Lala yesterday in person for the first time. I mean, we saw the movie again because we watched it.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah, already.

[Lauren LaRosa]

But it was my girl.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's family right there.

[Lauren LaRosa]

That was my first time meeting her. We had a really great conversation.

[Mimi Brown]

First time meeting Lala, if she made.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Me feel good about doing this job. And then I walk in here and you're angry.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Salute to. Lala is family. Okay.

[DJ Envy]

I love her.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, she did. I loved meeting her yesterday, even though it was brief. It was a great interaction.

[Angela Yee]

Well, we got the ladies coming up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We do.

[Lauren LaRosa]

We're gonna talk about Nicki. Nicki Minaj some more because she has been a Trump supporter and now she's.

[Mimi Brown]

Telling us, like, for years, behind the scenes.

[Angela Yee]

You got to break me down with all the stuff, the kidnapping, the ransom, just into that.

[Lauren LaRosa]

But it's a whole thing. It's like not. It's it seems not real, but it's real. But it seems. It does seem like a Lifetime movie. It does a lot of twists and turns.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's crazy twist and turning the way you fighting to get that goddamn bracelet off. You should not be in the club no more if you can't even get the band off once you leave.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm 30 plus. Yes, it's a Amazon prime premiere, not a club now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, you're right.

[Angela Yee]

All right, well, latest with Lauren's up next, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Jess. Hilarious Charlamagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get to the latest with Lauren.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah. I'm not dumbing myself down. I'm being myself. I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything and everyone.

[Mimi Brown]

Little brown girls look at you and.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Go, I want to be like you. Take me through that. Take me through there.

[Angela Yee]

She going.

[LaRussell]

The latest with l' Take me through.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

There on the Breakfast Club. LL Cool B, talk to me.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Hey, y'.

[Caller]

All.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Good morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Good morning, LL Cool B.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Thank you, Netflix. They sent me some headphones, and I can't get them to work yet, but I will be wearing them. I think it's because I was on air that day and my headphones stopped working.

[Angela Yee]

You were struggling. They must have known.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And they're so fire. They're so nose. And I put my name on them. So no one will take them out the studio.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Do they have to be charged?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Maybe I did charge it a little bit.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We'll figure it out.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I just wanted to say thank you to Netflix for sending those headphones. They want to make sure we can get this right.

[News Reporter]

Yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

All right, so let's get started. So, okay. We talked a little bit about this interview yesterday, but the full interview dropped. Last night, Nicki Minaj sat down with Katie Miller for the Katie Miller podcast, and she's just talking about her newfound Trump support, or so I thought. Newfound? Nicki Minaj says that, you know, some time ago, she had actually reached out to Trump before she went public about her support for him and had a conversation with him. Uh, let's take a listen. Have you ever spoken with President Trump?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I have.

[Lauren LaRosa]

During the last campaign, he got on the phone. He was very easy to talk to because I said, you know, everything I do, I have to take an account for my fan base. I said, you know, do you have a problem with the LGBT community? And I asked him if he had a problem with the Jewish community. And I asked him about, about women's rights. And he gave me, he gave me wonderful answers to all of them, to where I knew that he respected me and he respected my fan base. He just is an authentic human being and it made me feel comfortable. But at that time, I didn't come out and endorse him. I wish I did, though. Yeah. So a lot of people have been trying to figure out where like this Trump support has come from and what the timeline was. Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Cause she used to criticize Donald Trump.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Trump heavily. I was very surprised to hear in this interview when she said like, you know, some time ago she decided to go on over to the other side. But yeah, so she's clarifying that now. She also too, because she said in.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The rap that Donald Trump wanted to send her home. That was at least years ago.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, that was island girl. Now she also talked a bit about, because there's been a big conversation on, like, how is Nicki Minaj supporting Trump when a lot of her barb community are a part of the LGBTQ community? Right. So she has a conversation about where she stands on trans people because she's gotten a lot of backlash for supporting. Let's take a listen. I personally don't have an issue with the trans part of the LGBT at all. I am the biggest advocate for adults being able to do whatever the heck they want to do. They're adults. I don't care. I only mentioned something because when it comes to children, I wouldn't even allow my 17 year old daughter to get breast implants. 99% of the parents would not let their 17 year old child get breast implants. So if you wouldn't let a child get breast implants, you're not gonna want them to have any kind of surgery because we all know the brain is not developed and we've heard about 19 times more likely to commit suicide. What more do you need to know? That a child is 19 times more likely to commit suicide. Suicide. If they have a surgery before they're an adult.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, I can't act like she's not making sense right now.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah, making sense, totally. I understand that part.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Well, she's, you know, there's more to this interview. You guys can check it out. It's not out in full, but she just gives you kind of like she pulls back the layers of where she stands on a lot of things and you know why she's donating money to certain places and all of that. Now moving on, in other news. So I saw that Sher Shepard, she finally spoke out on her cancellation via her Instagram. She did not do it via her show because she says that she has Covid, but she posted a lot of the support. And we know, we talked about yesterday, the Sherry Shepherd's show has been canceled after four season seasons. She says, wow, I am completely overwhelmed by the outpouring of love for me and the Sherry show. You might have noticed that yesterday and today I was struggling because I wasn't feeling up to speed. Well, it turns out I have covet. As soon as I feel better and return to the show, I will address all of the news that has come out. Until then, I'm truly grateful that Sherry has made such an impact on you. See you soon. I planned to go to the show today because I thought she was to address it. I wanted to, like, see it. She's not gonna. Yeah, like it. She has covet, so that won't happen.

[Mimi Brown]

How does that work, though? Like, all right, so who will be doing her show or it's just not.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I don't know if they if like pretext. I don't know how that works because I don't know. I. From what I know, she shoots like two shows a day too, so I don't know how they figured out when.

[Mimi Brown]

She'S sick, but I don't know.

[Angela Yee]

The last time I heard somebody had Covid, though. Yeah, like, I don't even know last time I seen somebody take a test.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

For Covid because they don't talk about it. But you think all these flu cases was just flu this year to say it's the flu.

[Angela Yee]

But yeah, I haven't heard somebody say that they had actually covered in a long time.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, she feels same as well. And I'll keep you guys updated there. Now, real quick, this morning I heard you guys speaking of talk.

[LaRussell (rap segment)]

Yes, tell us.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I heard you guys talking about Savannah Gun 3.

[Angela Yee]

Now, who is Savannah Gumfre?

[Lauren LaRosa]

So she is one of the anchors on the Today show. And so news broke over the weekend that her mom was missing. Now, it started out as her mom. Her mom is 84 years old. It started out as her mom is missing. And then on Sunday they. A family member called police because they still couldn't figure out where she was. And then it was escalated to now homicide detectives are involved and they believe that they think they're not for sure that she was taken out of her home at some point. They're not for sure if it was out of her bed. Original report said that her mom was taken out of her bed and that they were Looking at local sex offenders and local cameras and cameras from her home, trying to figure it out. But police are saying that they're not for sure whether or not she was taken out of her bed. But they are confirming that this is now a crime scene, and it's not just a. A missing person because of things that they found in the home that were concerning when they went into the home. So this is now a crime scene.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And so is it true that they asked for a ransom? I thought I heard somewhere.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I have audio. So TMZ received a ransom letter. Let's take a listen to tmz.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's written like a ransom note for Savannah Guthrie's mother. Specific.

[Angela Yee]

And there was very certain amounts of money.

[LaRussell]

Very specific.

[Angela Yee]

There were certain things they're saying about what she was wearing and damage to.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The house that is clearly saying to verify it's us. We know what we're talking about here. So we are caught.

[Angela Yee]

We've contacted the sheriff's department.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Again, we don't know. We don't know if it's authentic.

[Angela Yee]

If it's authentic or not, then there's.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

A dollar demand and an or else in there. Now it sounds like an inside job.

[Mimi Brown]

They don't.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, it's a little crazy here.

[Angela Yee]

Her net worth is $40 million. So she has.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And there are, like, multiple, I guess, ransom notes that are popping up now because the sheriff's department had to actually issue a statement saying that. That they're aware of the reports circulating about ransom notes with a s. The one that was sent to tmz. They say that they're asking for a number in the millions in. In. In exchange for Nancy gun, who was Savannah Gun's mom.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Believe. Okay.

[LaRussell (rap segment)]

No, I was.

[Mimi Brown]

They were also saying that it's imperative that they find her soon because she has medicine that she needs to take.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah. Jenna bush went on her show, who's a friend of Savannah Gun. She's another talk show host. And she said, look, look, she has medications that she takes daily that she can't survive with. Like, it's important. Yeah. Survive without. And there's also been reports, too, that her pacemaker had, like, stopped. Kind of like. I guess it was connected to an apple watch, reportedly. And there's, like, no signs there. And, you know, at this point, also being. It can say is like, please pray, please. You know, if you have any information, please reach out.

[Mimi Brown]

But.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, it sounds like an inside job, But I will say if it's not, what makes them believe they're gonna get away with something like that in 2026, whoever came up with that idea is going to prison. You're not kidnapping somebody's mother and holding them for ransom and getting away with that, especially as someone as high profile as Savannah Guthrie.

[Caller]

Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And if they ask her for bitcoin, they also must believe that bitcoin isn't traceable.

[Angela Yee]

Okay, that's crazy.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[Angela Yee]

I hope they hope they find her mother and I hope they get it back safely.

[Lauren LaRosa]

A nightmare for her. She dropped out, of course. She dropped out of the. The coverage for the Winter Olympics fixed too, when all this started.

[Guest/Caller]

But.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Oh, wow, I can't imagine.

[Angela Yee]

Where do they live?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Her mom lives in Arizona.

[Angela Yee]

Arizona.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah. She lives in Arizona. Yes. So, yeah.

[LaRussell]

All right.

[Angela Yee]

Well, that's the latest with Lauren.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[DJ Envy]

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[Angela Yee]

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[LaRussell (rap segment)]

Morning, everybody.

[Angela Yee]

It's DJ Envy.

[LaRussell (rap segment)]

Just hilarious.

[Angela Yee]

Charlamagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get back to some front page news. All right, now, the clip of traded James Harden to the Cleveland Cavaliers in exchange for Darius Garland and a 2026 second round draft pick. I gotta call Andrew Madison's fiance. He's a huge Cavalier fan. I just wonder if this is a good trade because people say Harden bounces from team to team.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He's been on six teams his whole career. This is 16, and I forgot how many he is.

[Angela Yee]

I wonder if this is a good trade for him.

[Mimi Brown]

But he's really good though, right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, he is. But you're not gonna ever win a championship with James Harden's style of basketball. Kobe Bryant said that a long time ago. And God bless the dead. Kobe Bryant was absolutely right. Correct. Because he ain't sniffed a NBA final. I don't even think he's. I think he's been to the Western Conference finals one time in his whole career. Like you not going nowhere with James Harden.

[Mimi Brown]

Damn.

[Angela Yee]

What's up, Mimi?

[News Reporter]

Good morning, M.V.

[DJ Envy]

Jeff.

[News Reporter]

How y' all doing this morning? Good morning. So we start this hour with the warning for parents about how quickly online games can turn into real world danger. So two sisters in Florida, just 12 and 15 years old, they have been found safe after police say they were kidnapped by a man they met while playing Roblox. Now, if you're a parent, I'm sure you know this game very well. Yes. Investigators say the conversation later moved to Snapchat, where a 19 year old man allegedly spent months gaining the girl's trust. And family members told police they noticed red flags, including unexpected gifts showing up at the home, a food delivery showing up at the home. Authorities say the suspect, he drove more than 50, 1500 miles and drove nearly 23 hours straight from Nebraska to Florida, telling the girls to meet him. Now, the the sisters, they disappeared on Saturday around 5pm the case broke wide open after a traffic stop by the Georgia State Patrol, who found both girls inside the suspect's vehicle.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What?

[News Reporter]

Let's listen to police.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

In the communications that we did see, there was romantic conversation. Again, nothing sexually explicit that we found yet. But keep in mind, there's a lot of work to be done. We're still going through those devices. We recovered his device and we're doing search warrants on his device. So we'll see what was in there. But there's nothing good with a grown man coming into the state of Florida, removing two teenage girls and taking them to Omaha, Nebraska.

[Mimi Brown]

Wow.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah.

[LaRussell]

That is scary.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The guy was 19.

[Angela Yee]

19 years old.

[News Reporter]

19.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He was by himself.

[News Reporter]

He was by himself. Apparently the girls something about they got their phones taken away, so they were talking to him on a family iPad or something. And then the, the mom or the dad, they, they, something sparked their memory and they had deleted the Snapchat app and. Snapchat app. And then they went back, they found the correspondence, they showed it to the police. They were able to track him and his movements through his phone. And that's ended up, that's how they found him. But this all started on Robot. And I know a lot of parents allow your children to play on Roblox. So police are saying that, you know, of course, both social media companies, they are cooperating with the, with the police, but they're reminding parents to check those apps, monitor messages and talk openly with your kids about who they're talking to online.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah.

[News Reporter]

And law enforcement, they're reminding that grooming doesn't always look obvious. Online conversations can be very real, you know, go, go wrong very fast. And so.

[Mimi Brown]

Jesus.

[News Reporter]

Yeah, 12 and 15 years old, that's scared.

[Angela Yee]

My son plays Roblox. He plays a couple of the other games too. But what I like to do for all the parents out there is I just go in the room while he's playing.

[Guest/Caller]

Yeah.

[Angela Yee]

And I just sit in the room and just listen and listen to what other people are saying, listen to what he's saying back. And I do that once, twice a week just so I can get a vibe of what it is.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah.

[Angela Yee]

And I'm still from the era of I take my phone, my kid's phone on, just give me a phone, what's your code? Yeah. And I look through the phone, I look through the text, I look through everything and it's just, you know, it is what it is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I have my dad. I just feel like our kids got way too many outside influences. I mean, and I hate to be the parent that, you know, sets a lot of boundaries when it comes to that. But when you got, you know, 10 year olds and 7 year olds and 4 year olds like I do, they're influenced by so many things that are outside of your control. And I don't, I personally don't want that.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[Mimi Brown]

Even as young as your kids. And the teenagers though, that's worse. Cause they're actually out in the world. My son, he 13 and he go to school and they talk about girls that they meet on the chat and Robux, like you just said, like, you know, Roblox and all that stuff. And that's scary. But that's why Rome, he does the same thing that you said. He'll go in a room with Ash and he'll be like, yo, let me see your phone. He got the code. Now Ash gets slick and change it, but he always still gives it like, all right, I changed my code. This is what it is. Rome always check his phone.

[Angela Yee]

I do that all the time. And you know what makes me do that? Madison is the one that makes me go check the phone. Something is something this, that, and the other. Or now like Madison is on it worse than me. Yeah, big sister, she on it. That's good.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[News Reporter]

Very important to. To monitor your kids behavior on social media. And now to Atlanta, where church disruption is drawing comparisons. Comparisons to what we're seeing in Minneapolis. So video shows an uninvited preacher at New Birth Missionary Baptist Church pulling out a camera and loudly condemning the congregation during a worship service. What is going, Brian?

[Guest/Caller]

Yep.

[News Reporter]

Pastor Jamal Bryant says disruption across the line from protected speech into criminal behavior, especially inside of a place of worship. Let's listen to a little bit of that rant from the man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He's gonna destroy this church. It's time to repent of your wicked way race Bailey stirring hatred.

[Lauren LaRosa]

He was white.

[News Reporter]

He was white.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, yeah.

[News Reporter]

So church security, they removed the man, but no arrest was made. And this is a contrast, of course, to what is happening in Minneapolis.

[LaRussell]

Oh, really?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes.

[News Reporter]

And then Minneapolis, where people who disrupted service inside the church, you know, they were arrested for protesting. Now, Brian, he is now questioning whether enforcement is being applied evenly and whether black churches are receiving the same protection under the law. Let's listen to what he has to say about that.

[LaRussell]

This white evangelical nationalist pastor had the audacity he and his wife to get out of his car and for propaganda and disturbance, filmed themselves coming into our church. And since you are against places of worship being disturbed, and this gentleman attempted to do it at a black church, I want to know when is the arrest warrant?

[Mimi Brown]

The craziest thing is black churches ain't like they used to be. Because the church that I grew up in would have beat his ass.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, there's no way that's not a good church then. Well, the Bible tells you to avoid physical confrontation. The Bible tells you to turn the other cheek. The Bible tells you to avoid vengeance. The Bible says that we don't battle against flesh and blood, but against spiritual forces of evil. So you lying.

[Mimi Brown]

No, you ain't.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nobody get beat up in your church?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, yeah, right.

[Angela Yee]

Not the pastor. Maybe not the past pastors and deacons, but the congregation would have dragged him out. Absolutely.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah.

[News Reporter]

I would say, yes. Church has a lot of security.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So.

[Mimi Brown]

You know, I grew up in yeah, black churches don't play that. Never played that back in the day. No. Getting your ass in the name of Jesus. I'm sorry, but you're getting your ass whipped. Sorry.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's why you don't go to that church no more.

[Mimi Brown]

No, that's exactly why. Because they grew up and they don't.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Do that no more.

[News Reporter]

All right, well, we will see what happens with that. He is exactly. You know, he mentioned Attorney General Pam Bondi by name and, you know, calling for the arrest of that, that protester and his wife who came into his church just like some of the protesters did in Minneapolis. So we will see if there is an arrest in that. We'll continue to follow that. But that is your front page news. I am Mimi Brown. Follow me at Mimi Brown tv. For more stories, follow the Black Information Network, Download the free iHeartRadio app and visit binnews.com now.

[Angela Yee]

When we come back, La Russell will be joining us.

[Guest/Caller]

Sir.

[Angela Yee]

The Russell has an album that's coming out in I think the next couple of days, right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, it's called Something's in the Water. It was supposed to come out this week, but he launched a campaign to sell a hundred thousand copies of his album and he wanted to sell it within 30 days. And he didn't reach that goal. So he actually pushed it back because he really wants to reach the goal before he puts, puts the project out.

[Angela Yee]

All right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And you can pay what you want for that album.

[LaRussell]

That's right.

[Mimi Brown]

I love it.

[Angela Yee]

And we gonna talk to LaRussell next.

[Mimi Brown]

But y' all can't pay a penny because they don't make them no more.

[Angela Yee]

Correct? All right, we'll get to that. Next is the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious Charlamagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Always a pleasure to see this brother.

[Angela Yee]

This album is out right now. Something's in the water. Ladies and gentlemen, LaRussa.

[LaRussell]

Welcome back, brother.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Comes out on the 6th.

[LaRussell]

Yeah, you know, we actually, we moving it back. We've been campaigning to sell 100, 000 albums. It's out, right? And no, it ain't out yet. We just been doing pre orders so people can go pre order and listen to like some of the tracks. But we hit 21, 000 hours in 30 days, so wow, you know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Now talk to us about this 100,0001,000 copy. You trying what's called the 100, 000 albums challenge. You're trying to sell 100,000 copies.

[LaRussell]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Independently off this one project.

[LaRussell]

Man. Just a stroll with me and the homie. You know, we take walks every morning and just kind of build the vision and the dream and what we want. And it was one of the moments I was feeling myself and I'm like, nigga, I could sell 100,000 albums, you know? And I decided to just go to the world with it and believe in myself and take the chance, you know, I think it's a goal that a lot of people don't get to achieve, and I wanted to see that through for myself and my community.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I like, I love what you do because it's like the evolution of Nipsey Hussle's Proud to Pay campaign. But yours is pay what you want.

[LaRussell]

Yeah, yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And it's like people who just appreciate you and appreciate what you do end up dropping some money.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah, right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Kyrie irving dropped what? 11,000.

[LaRussell]

11,000.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Snoop Dogg, 2500. John Beliana Snow, the product did 5K, said his entertainer did a thousand.

[LaRussell]

Raphael, Sadiq Raphael.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah. And then just like regular people too. Like, you know what I'm saying?

[LaRussell]

Yeah.

[Mimi Brown]

11,000. 11, like 10,000. 8,000. This is dope. And. And do you have a deadline for it?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The Honey K. I saw you just extended.

[LaRussell]

Yeah, I just extended, so I'm gonna go through February. You know, I really feel like it's an achievable goal. And just where we landed at 21,000 indie. I've already, you know, there's major artists that can't sell that amount, so we've already surpassed it. But I really, I just want to see it to fruition. I believe I could do it.

[Mimi Brown]

So wait, you wanted to sell a hundred K albums before you dropped it? Oh, I thought you meant just. So that's why I asked you the deadline.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn.

[LaRussell]

Before.

[Mimi Brown]

Damn.

[Lauren LaRosa]

This is still good though.

[Mimi Brown]

23,000 pre orders.

[LaRussell]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn.

[Mimi Brown]

Well, congratulations.

[LaRussell]

Gratitude.

[Angela Yee]

Now, Lil Jon did every record on the album.

[LaRussell]

Yep, yep. Everything. And my homies, my in house team, they teamed up with John and we sat in the studio. I think we did a total of like four sessions and got it done.

[Angela Yee]

How did you hook up with Lil Jon?

[LaRussell]

It's been some years we've been chopping it up and then we was randomly in LA and having a convo and I was like, I'm just gonna text Lil Jon and see if he respond. And we was in the studio the next day. Wow.

[Guest/Caller]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What is the Russell sound? Cause, like, people see you do records with Lil Jon, they See you doing the hypey stuff. Cause you from the Bay, but then you can actually spit like you're a lyricist.

[LaRussell]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What is LA Russell's sound?

[LaRussell]

It's hard to encapsulate and. And it's tough. We talk about that often. Like, a lot of people think I'm just like a Bay Area rapper because they've seen, like, lately what's popular was viral. But, you know, you found me early. Do that little dance and. And, you know, people who know me, people who watch the tiny desk know I. It's really hard that, you know, I make everything from R B to rap. I think the sound is just music is. I just make life music music.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Ovain sent me that. It was the 2021 freestyle. Yeah, yeah, it was. Oh, yeah. Good Company Radio. I forgot what the name of the freestyle. I know it was 2021 freestyle.

[LaRussell]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I heard that, and it was funny because Jovain sent it to me. God blessed that he sent it to me and I didn't click on it. And then like a day later he was like, you ain't click on that video I sent you. Because he knew that if I clicked on it, I'd be like, yo, who is this? Right? That's exactly what happened. I'm like, yo, this dude is flying. Phenomenal.

[LaRussell]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So that's all. To me, that was always the lane. But then I started seeing you do everything, and I'm like, man, the Russell can. He can just do whatever he wants at this point.

[LaRussell]

Yeah. And, you know, that was the goal from the beginning. Like, I. I've always made every kind of music, but I just. I went viral for this. So people assume that that's what it was, you know, And I've always wanted to have regional representation and make sure people understood where I was from too. You know, when I started, everybody seen the freestyles and they thought I was from the East Coast. So this is just like this album.

[Angela Yee]

Tells you, ain't from the East Coast. So I was gonna say, what was your mind frame for this? Did you wanted people to know, yo, I'm from the Bay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This is the sound they don't know about now. God damn right, right.

[LaRussell (rap segment)]

Yeah.

[LaRussell]

I really wanted something that represent us, you know, I feel like as a region, we haven't had dominance in a long time. You know, even when people think of their top 10 list, you don't often put a Bay Area artist in there. And I wanted to just remind people, like, we make the music that the culture moved to when you hear certain beats, that's our sound, that's our BPM and our resonance. But it's also, we get al. You know, it ain't too many people who could rap with me either.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Are there people who take advantage of the format and try to underpay for the album?

[LaRussell]

Like here's a penny, of course, you know, but I don't even look at it as taking advantage. You know, we meet people where they are and I've had some people give me a dollar for one thing and then come back three months later when they in a different position and get me right with a hundred, you know, so I've learned to stop basing whatever they use on that day as like the value or the worth of what they think my art is.

[Angela Yee]

Now if somebody gives you $11,000, right, is that one album?

[LaRussell]

Yeah. So Kyrie bought one album for 11,000. So you can either buy, you can either buy multiple for an amount or you could buy one. And what's special, both of them apply to me because he gave me a world record for the highest digital album sold by buying one for that amount versus buying a thousand. Thousand.

[Guest/Caller]

Wow.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah, I don't like that. I like. See, because you could have had. Instead of having 23, 000, it should have been 33.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah, right.

[Angela Yee]

And then I look at.

[LaRussell]

But I wouldn't think it might have been 43. But it wouldn't have been history.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It would have been history.

[LaRussell]

It wouldn't have been history. Gotcha. You know, so either one is beneficial because it ain't thousand, ain't never non beneficial no matter how you cut it up.

[Angela Yee]

Because it ain't really 23, 000 copies. Right.

[LaRussell]

You could say I really sold like.

[Angela Yee]

67,000 based on these numbers.

[LaRussell]

Yeah, definitely.

[Mimi Brown]

What do you think the true monetary value of the project is?

[LaRussell]

It's priceless. You know, I think that's what I built my whole ethos and brand on. It's not free. It's priceless. You know, when you get an experience that changes your life or you get to support somebody who's revolutionary and doing something new and different and making history, that's a priceless experience to contribute to no matter what.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You built a career outside the traditional industry machine. Like, what did independence give you that a major label never could?

[LaRussell]

Freedom. You know, every label situation I was getting offered early didn't allow me the ability to do what I did. I released 43 albums just in the past. Since 2021, I've dropped 43 albums on five years I was able to build my catalog that my family, my team, everyone, the fans. There's people who own equity even that. Me being able to share royalties with fans and my homies that don't exist in the major system, you know, it's like, those royalties ain't yours to give.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He not capping either. He tried to give them to me. Like, yeah.

[LaRussell]

Everybody who helped me early, you know, I tried to take care of just cause it's like.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But only because it's. We can't. I'm a radio personality, so I can't do that. You know, that's unethical. But I'm like, nah, bro, I can't. I'm not doing that.

[LaRussell]

But you a human, You're a radio personality, but you're a human outside of this. Like, one day it won't be radio and you'll just be Charlemagne. And it's like, you help contribute to the culture. You deserve to have equity in that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, that's a dope way to think.

[LaRussell]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay. At what point did you realize you didn't need permission to be successful?

[LaRussell]

When I started being granted the same opportunities as the people that I thought were here to me. And, you know, being able to come on Breakfast Club early and being someone who got to come on to rap that first time, I didn't even get interviewed. I just came and rapped. We filmed the whole process of me coming up the elevator. It was like a 10 minute video total. Like I came in rap and left, you know, and that's all it was. And being granted that type of access, as an Indian, as someone who people tell you like, oh, you need major distribution, you need this, you need that. And to get the same access and opportunity really just altered my perspective on what was possible.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let's talk about the whole meeting because you had. You met with Roc Nation, you know, I guess a couple of years ago.

[LaRussell]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And you had some criticism of the deal that they offered you.

[LaRussell]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Then. Well, first of all, talk about that. First of all, what was the criticism?

[LaRussell]

Yeah, so in 2021, Roc Nation was one of the first labels to offer me a deal, you know, and Hovain championed that. And we was talking earlier about that. And when they offered me the deal, just my entire process of going through that, like meeting who was the heads then the energy was an ideal, you know, but they end up offering me a deal. And the first draft of the deal that came to me didn't have like any advances, any money, anything attached to it. It was just like a discretionary fund, 360, 10%, yada, yada. So I went into the office and I'm like, man, what's up with the deal? Like, where's all the info on the numbers? Just don't really make sense. And then guy makes a phone call, and he come back with another deal within, like, two, three minutes. And it had all the numbers on it, and it just blew me because I was like.

[Angela Yee]

Y' all trying to.

[LaRussell]

Get, like, if I would have signed the first draft of the deal, would you have ever told me that this. This wasn't the right deal? You know, from there, it just made me feel uneasy. And that's when I started talking like, I gotta holla at Ho because I feel like HO didn't champion this. Like, I don't think he know what's going on, you know? And I never really heard nothing back from then. It just kind of kept moving. But that news spread, and I'm like, man, I mean, I'm only. I can only share my truth, you know? And just recently, probably a year and a half ago, Cruz from ROC Nation hit me. And he's like, you know, we're building a new regime up here. We got all new people. And, you know, I really want to make sure you understand that that's not reflective of us or representative of. Of us and how we believe, you know, that should have went. We understand what you're doing and we respect it. But I was still in the sense of like, nah, I gotta holla at ho. You feel me? And eventually I got to holla at Hov and we really sat and talked for three hours, and he brought up, you know, the deal and everything and just told me what it was. And this journey and how this little black kid from Vallejo saying something to the world about hov's company is what made him look at his own house and be like, man, that wasn't right. That shouldn't have went that way. You know, he didn't even have full. When you run a company that big, you don't always have full visual of what the people that you empower doing so.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So clearly. Clearly the conversation was good that y' all had.

[LaRussell]

Incredible.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Incredible. Yeah. So would you have taken the half a million dollars or the dinner?

[LaRussell]

Both. Both of them.

[Angela Yee]

Are you thinking of signing with ROC Nation this time around?

[LaRussell]

You know, I'm officially signed to ROC Nation. It means I now have support beyond just my homies and somebody who truly believe in what I'm doing, who's already done what I've Done to show me the path. You know, I've gotten into a point of so much success independently where I'm from that I lost my guides. You know, I surpassed a lot of people who did what I've done. So I didn't. We've been doing this with no blueprint, no map, no route. Like, we're. I'm the first in my family to ever perform at super bowl and curate a house band. And, you know, all of this is a first. And HOV has been here and done it, so it just gives us a different level of infrastructure. And I'm still indy. I still own all my masters, I still spend my pay. I still do what I want. But now I have a support where, like, I'm from, the Bay is going to radio. I've never been able to get to radio. You know, it's just a different system. And as soon as we agree, like, man, let's work. They were instantly like, we believe in this record. We willing to take the radio. I've had partnerships prior where they try to tell me it ain't worth it. Your song not worth going on radio until you get a Tick Tock moment or some viral chain. It's like, why we. Why we count on Tick tock to believe in something that we all believe in.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Personally, you know, and also too, I feel like Roc Nation still allows you to have.

[LaRussell]

Have independence completely complete. There. There was no way I would go over there without it. You know, even. Even through this journey thus far, like, this is the first time I've partnered with anyone. And they called me and said, hey, we thinking about doing this. This what we gonna spend on it. But how you feel do you want us to do more or less? What do you think for yourself? And that's a beautiful thing because a lot of artists ain't even in them conversations.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[LaRussell]

You know, you have no idea what's going on. But I'm a part of every conversation that has anything to do with LaRue Hustle.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How do you define winning now? Is it money? Is it freedom? Is it impact? Is it peace?

[LaRussell]

I think it's impact. You know, I think how many people I affect while I'm here and I'm doing what I'm doing and I show the way is what my success is gauged by. You know, if I was to do all this and I didn't help nobody or contribute to nothing, even with what I did with even, I opened the door for everybody to eat and do, pay what you want and sell the album. J Cole just, you know, he just did his last album through Even Pay what you Want and ran it up wale 21 savage. Like, I brought people actually selling their music back. That's something the little black boy and Vallejo did was waiting on DSPs and trying to get their money off streams. I brought it back to, like, nah, go to your people and get your chicken. Here's a platform for you to do. So that's my real impact and contribution to the culture. That wasn't done, you know, prior to me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I love when you mentioned Vallejo, man, because, you know, like. Like, you create in your own environment. Literally got the stage in your backyard, like, with your people around you, mom working, everybody working. How important is your environment to your creativity?

[LaRussell]

Vital. You know, when we made this album with Lil Jon, we. We started the sessions in la and I kept telling them, like, you got to come to the Bay. Like, we can only finish the album if you come to the Bay. And he's like, man, I'm gonna come. And he came to the backyard, and just the energy and feeling like him. For him to be in the backyard and be like, man, I never thought I'd be here. It's crazy. Cause we looking at him like, we never thought you'd be here, you know, but it's like that. That. That ambiance is something that has been missing. Like, I've been getting with all the OG producers. Me and Jazzy Faye was just cooking, and they're in these studios and in a room with me like kids. Like, we all kids at play again. Like, that feeling and that energy left you. You see it now. Like, it's. It's like the fun left the music. People don't feel that way, the vibrancy. But we be. If you look at these videos of us making songs, it's like, man, these are really, really kids at play, enjoying what they do.

[Mimi Brown]

So you never thought that you would be here at this point? You never did.

[LaRussell]

All I wanted was some holes in the box.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Chevy, in the song.

[Mimi Brown]

In the song Wiggling, you say you were 18, you had your first job and you got your first check, and you looked at and was like, yeah, I'm not. I ain't. I knew I ain't want a job ever. Where was you working at and how.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Much was the check?

[LaRussell]

I was working at ups. And I think my first starting wage was like. Your first 25.

[Mimi Brown]

Your first job was UPS?

[LaRussell]

Yeah. That's actually good now. I was a seasonal helper for the Christmas season, and I think I was getting 825.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You worked at the factory?

[LaRussell]

The warehouse I was on. I was in the truck, like, dropping off packages, but I was just a helper to the driver.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, gotcha.

[LaRussell]

And I remember, like, that first week we probably worked like, like 50, 60 hours, and I got that check and I was like, damn, I just gave away so much of my life, you know, for so little money. And I thought it was some chicken then, but it was like, it gotta be more than this. There's no way this was 60. Like, now, to see what 60 hours of my life can bring me versus what 60 hours of my life brought me then is incomparable.

[Angela Yee]

And that song is hard. What's the name of that song?

[Mimi Brown]

Wiggling.

[Angela Yee]

Oh, that song is hard too.

[LaRussell]

Yeah, that song is hard.

[Angela Yee]

I was gonna ask too. Who are you most surprised with. With your biggest contribution? Like, when you seen Kyrie Irving, did you know what's happening or did it just happen?

[LaRussell]

Like, oh, I had no idea. None of these people.

[Angela Yee]

Rafael, Sadiq.

[DJ Envy]

None of them.

[LaRussell]

None of them. All of them was like a surprise. Papa. I get a message from, you know, the co founder, Mag, and he'll be like, man, this just came through. But I had no clue with none of those.

[Angela Yee]

We met with Jay a while ago when Diddy was home. You met with Diddy?

[LaRussell]

Yeah.

[Angela Yee]

Were you thinking about signing with Baby?

[LaRussell]

No, Never.

[Angela Yee]

What was that. What was that meeting about?

[LaRussell]

I think he just wanted to meet, but he also wanted me to write for, like a record that he was making during the time. But I think he just wanted to. To link and. And, you know, feel the energy out and everything. Like, I'm. He seen the light, you know, And I think that's the case with everybody who end up wanting to meet. Like, they see the light and they want to get around it. And I feel like when I met Puff, he was in that. He was in a space. Like you could feel his discomfort, you know? Like, I. I remember leaving there. I went with my mom and my daughter's mom, and I left there and we went on a long walk. And remember I text you. Yeah, yeah, we went on a long walk. And I was just like, man, he going through it. Like, he not okay. And this was before the dance, before. Way before, way before. I just. Man, I'm a great sense engage of like human. And I could feel it, you know, and just how the people around him moved. It was like, this ain't gonna be good. Because nobody around you care enough to tell you when you wrong or tell you you know, hey, this. This a little off. And, you know, we. We had conversations. We was walking to the stool, and I was like, man, you've got everything. What do you want now? Like, what. What's left for you to have? You know, because he was still distressed. And he was like, man, I just want to be able to breathe. And I was like, damn. Like, that was a sentiment that I felt deeply because I've been in that space through growing and getting famous and accruing success, where I'm like, damn, I can't even breathe. This so much on me, you know? And to see him in that state was like, man. And, you know, I'm non complicit in it. Like, wrong is wrong. But I also could understand how somebody could get all the way to that point when it goes unchecked and when you build a world where everybody's complicit in your behavior. And he wanted me to write to. I think the record was act bad. He played me the record.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yuck.

[LaRussell]

And I literally. He was like, what you. He was like, what you think after? And I said, I don't love it. And he was like. And everybody in the room went steel.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That record was terrible.

[LaRussell]

And that. That was the first line that showed me. Oh, all y' all in here lying. Cause y' all gonna make me like I'm wrong for saying I don't love it. And he was like, what? You don't love it? You know, we had a long discourse, and I was telling them, like, you at the phase of your journey where we want to hear your life. We know you had the. And you did all that. We like, that's not the puff I want to hear from. They like, you 50. That's not the puff I want to hear from. Like, we need some life, right? And I was writing a new record where I was like, life. I was putting his journey in. And he was like, nah, man, we. We trying to party. Like, that's too deep. And I'm just like, damn. Like, it was too far gone.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I forgot who podcast you was on, but you had. You had told that story. You know how many people hit me and was like, is this real or he just saying this? Because everything that he going through, I'm like, nah, that's real. That was like three, four years ago.

[LaRussell]

It was a while ago. It was a while ago.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm like, yeah, he hit me about that a long time ago.

[Angela Yee]

Did you ever speak after? I'm sorry. I was gonna say. Cause the record didn't do Great. So did y' all ever speak after that and be like, see, this is where I was guiding you to?

[LaRussell]

No, we haven't spoke since. I don't think. I don't think he was hyper fond of, you know, after that. You know, I don't think he disliked me, but it was like, I don't need no around me telling me the truth. You know, I just. I think I was out the circle at that point.

[Mimi Brown]

Do you think it was more so like a fear of him going deep? Cause where you were.

[Angela Yee]

Hey, hey, yo, yo.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Shit.

[Mimi Brown]

We not. We talking. We're not talking to Diddy. We talking to Russell.

[Angela Yee]

Pause.

[LaRussell]

Come on.

[Mimi Brown]

Anyway, do you think it was like. Cause he wanted to party.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Party.

[Mimi Brown]

You know what I mean? But you was trying to get him and like you said, you 50 year old puff. I don't want to hear that. Nobody want to hear that. Right? You know, at some point you gotta get tired of turning up and start teaching or start getting deep telling us the things that we don't know or whatever. Right. Showing a different side. Do you think it was. It could have been out of fear that he didn't want to get that deep or just. Cause he just really be on some party that he could have been suppressing.

[LaRussell]

As I've grown as a man and human, it's a really debilitating process to everything you know yourself as. You know, you end up in a state where you like lost and. And you low. And a lot of people don't want to go back that low and have to build up. And sometimes it's like the image. You built such an image in a life for yourself that you don't even know who you are no more. To go back to something, you know, like there's no home to go back to when you destroyed every house you had.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah. Damn.

[Angela Yee]

Can we play some joints off the.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Album or he can rap. Whatever you want to do. I mean, whatever you feel like doing.

[LaRussell]

Yeah, I like rapping.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You like the buffing? You got it queued up.

[Mimi Brown]

My man came in here with two hats and a sleeping bag.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You want to turn it down a little bit or you need.

[LaRussell (rap segment)]

I think I'm good.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[LaRussell (rap segment)]

Pops used to whoop a black and burgundy suburban. Back then I knew that I was deserving Back then I knew that I would be something God put a light inside me like a pumpkin Quality and quantity do it in conjunction A bruised ego could fuck up the family function did it from the crib Changed the way the family functions. Yeah, I see myself in my mama I see myself in my daughter I see myself and my daddy remove myself from the drama I'm trying to help the family heal and still make it up the hill Take care of everyone but still recoup the digit I'm big Russ now I used to be Lil and Big Rust still alive this real All I ever wanted was to make my daddy proud you execute different when your daddy in the crowd tried to follow his lead used to barely crack a smile wasn't my style I been this way since a child back and forth with Yaya I was young and wild we was both just babies having a child now we grown in a house still not a home I cry some nights knowing you're better off alone I'm on the road making money off songs while you at home raising babies on your own thank God you got your mama and your siblings thank God I'm still invited on Thanksgiving I might have to pass on the next one I said I'm the only one not the best one but every day I show up in my human form.

[LaRussell]

This past weekend, like every other Sunday.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You were on the court with the guys playing ball.

[LaRussell]

Just a pickup game living out your hoop dreams. No triple doubles, but a mean set of threes in between buckets.

[DJ Envy]

One of the homies mentions he closed.

[LaRussell]

On a new crib.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This is big. And while everyone's asking about the housewarming.

[LaRussell]

And making plans to celebrate, you're asking the real questions.

[DJ Envy]

Like, has he spoke to his State Farm agent yet about coverage?

[LaRussell]

See, home ownership is one thing, but the right coverage is the real game changer. Even more than your last hot streak.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Is how you protect your legacy.

[DJ Envy]

Dropping buckets and bars on the court.

[LaRussell]

A State Farm agent can more than assist you with finding the right coverage.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

For your new place. If you have a claim, your local agent can help you file it.

[DJ Envy]

Yep, that's right. Over the phone, in person, online, or.

[LaRussell]

On the app, they're ready to help you.

[DJ Envy]

And they don't drop the ball, if.

[LaRussell]

You know what I mean.

[DJ Envy]

Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there.

[Angela Yee]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[LaRussell (rap segment)]

Mama knew this be my life when I was born Remember that night up in the hospital? You was torn open by the breaching of my baby I was a youth. I couldn't understand the flow of life. All I could do is grab Your hand and try to hold it tight. Used to be plagued with all the women I will hold at night thinking about male when I was learning how to hold the right but got ugly.

[LaRussell]

As a hooking with an over biting.

[LaRussell (rap segment)]

The eye that wasn't nice but I.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Am hey, hold on.

[LaRussell (rap segment)]

These rap songs done help heal plenty men reversing damage that was done to us by many men. You know they love to play gangster til somebody shank ya I learned early. Dear Lord, I wanna thank ya for walking me through fours with my eyes closed. You ain't gotta say a word when your eyes hold the light given to you by the most high. I'm from the north but I live on both sides, you know I'm in the hood like a serpentine belt spitting rhymes against felt Remember getting whoopings till the they can have welts early life lessons from a belt Yelling my mama name calling out for help when she ain't come to rescue me I would melt chip on my shoulder through the day stayed in the room I ain't even want to play all this I never used to say out of fear I get to say here these flows been healing me since I was young. 97. Work done. What a fucking run. I can't see it coming down my eyes so I gotta let the song cry, yeah. I can't see it coming down my eyes so I gotta let this song cry, yeah. Every night it came down my eyes and I still let this song cry, yeah, thank God it came down my eyes so I gotta let the song cry. It's the marine for them rhyme.

[Mimi Brown]

That's right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Go order. Something's in the water right now. Where can they order, man? Get my guy to 100,000.

[LaRussell (rap segment)]

We on even Biz, yada.

[LaRussell]

I mean, you can go to the.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Website, you can pay whatever you want. A dollar five, dollar ten, whatever, man. Let's just get my guy.

[Mimi Brown]

What's the website? What's the website?

[LaRussell]

Even biz.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Even biz, even. I got to go make a purchase. My dance.

[Angela Yee]

It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Let's get right to the latest with Lauren.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Your talk LL Cool.

[LaRussell]

Yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm not dumbing myself down. I'm being myself. I'm the home girl that knows a little bit about everything and everything. Little brown girls look at you and go, I want to be like you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Take me through that.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Take me through there.

[LaRussell]

The latest with Laura on the Breakfast Club.

[Lauren LaRosa]

All right, guys, so. Oh, I hear what you're talking about.

[Angela Yee]

It had a little echo, right?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Oh, yes, I echo My new headphones. Thanks, Netflix. So, want to get into the latest? So we're going to talk about the R. Kelly, the AR Kelly victim. Her name is Rashauna Lanfear. Now, you might not know her by name, but Rashauna Landfair is the. She's a now a woman. But she was the young girl in the video that has circulated of R. Kelly. The video where he pees on a young girl.

[Mimi Brown]

Okay, the hell out of me. Go ahead.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Urinated on a woman and she is speaking out. Now she's reclaiming her identity. She just dropped a book called who's Watching Shorty. So Shorty is her, like, childhood nickname. And the book is all about basically people around her failing her. She says that law enforcement, social services, her family, music execs, everybody failed her. No one was watching and protecting her, which is how she ended up in a situation she was in. Now, she did a sit down interview with CBS Jericho's Duncan. Jericho Duncan. And she talks about how she even got into R. Kelly's orbit. Let's take a listen to her talking about her Aunt Sparkle. The next time we're at the studio. This is what you say. Sparkle says. You say your aunt told you the.

[Mimi Brown]

Next time we're at the studio, you.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Should ask Robert to be your godfather. Aunt Sparkle explained that I should sit.

[Mimi Brown]

On his lap and rub his head while I asked him to be my godfather. This instruction seems sort of weird since.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I hadn't sat on his lap before, but I didn't question it. When you think back, is that where it all begins? Is that the start? That is the start.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Start.

[Lauren LaRosa]

That is the start of him entering into my life in a different way than just being an artist or hanging out at the studio. It became more personable at that moment.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Now, her Aunt Sparkle, you know, was here on the Breakfast Club right after that surviving R. Kelly doc went down in envy. You actually had a conversation with her about why you thought that it was her fault. Sparkle's fault. Let's take a listen to the Breakfast Club talking to Sparkle.

[News Reporter]

Just the fact that people are thinking.

[Lauren LaRosa]

That I just threw my niece out there.

[News Reporter]

No, they're blaming you.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, I understand a lot of people are blaming me. Why y' all deflecting like family members?

[Angela Yee]

They're saying, I definitely blamed you, too.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You know why this keeps coming to me?

[Angela Yee]

Because in the docu series, it doesn't necessarily explain well enough what R. Kelly exactly. Makes it seem like everybody heard what was going on with R. Kelly. And you still introduced.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Well, no, she did say.

[News Reporter]

She did say that, you know, Barry Hankinson was there with Aaliyah. All of that was left out and.

[Lauren LaRosa]

People going, you know, think what they're gonna.

[News Reporter]

Because of them not putting everything in there. That part of me, you know, just sending my, you know, niece in there, coaches leaving her in the studio. I never left my niece in the studio.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And then what they don't share on the piece is that I called my.

[News Reporter]

Sister when I saw her down there.

[Lauren LaRosa]

By herself, when I asked, you know, what you doing here by yourself?

[News Reporter]

30 to an hour later, my brother in law shows up.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah, her stories don't match.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't even remember that interview.

[Angela Yee]

I didn't even remember she said mbs. I was like, what?

[Mimi Brown]

I know.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, that was. It was. It was like seven years ago. It was literally right after that doc had premiered and she was here and. And I mean, rightfully so. You guys brought up a lot of points in that conversation with her. Because everybody has these questions. Like these girls now, women were children. So how did they even.

[Angela Yee]

The stories don't match because park was saying she had nothing to do with it. And Denise is saying she told me to sit on his lap and rub his head, which is crazy. And how old was, how old was the young lady during that time?

[Lauren LaRosa]

She was 13 or 14.

[Angela Yee]

Jesus Christ.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, she said she was 14 at the time. And yeah, stories don't match at all. Sparkle actually released a statement as well, too, where she's still, you know, saying that she had nothing to do with anything. She says she is relieved that Rashana is finally free to speak her truth and begin her healing journey because she's always wanted that for her. But she says she wants to be clear about one thing. Any suggestion that I groomed or facilitated or enabled harm to my niece is untrue and deeply painful, especially given my documented actions at the time. And throughout. She. And then she goes into what she said here. When she found out out, she let people know, she contacted dcfs. She said she did all the things that she needed to do. But also, Rashana addresses, you know, after that video came out, that whole video became punchline and jokes. Dave Chappelle had a skit about it. Yeah, she talks about what she went through watching the world, everybody. But I think most people famously remember Dave Chappelle's. But she talks about. Yes, she talks about generally just watching the world make her life a joke. Let's take a listen to the jokes.

[Mimi Brown]

That came from the video because we're.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Talking about seeing a person at the time not knowing who it is being urinated on. Do you look at even the justice system as not protecting you to some extent? I definitely think things could have been handled differently. I'm happy I wasn't there to witness everyone watching that to the world imagery. I was not made to be a victim. I was a mockery. And that was very difficult to digest. It was very disheartening to know that my body was just being displayed and tossed around. And you know, when I look back on it, I wish things could have been done differently. But those are all of the things that I had to internalize.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's amazing. I was always two sides to a story because back then we never thought we were joking on the little girl. We were clowning r. Kelly.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yep, 100% did.

[Angela Yee]

Did they ever get who released the video? Because that person is just as bad. Cuz even though they were trying to expose R. Kelly, but it also victimized this young girl that for the rest of her life she has to deal with. Could you imagine going to school every day and people making fun of you and you can't get away from that.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And if you guys remember, she was.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Blurred out though on the video.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I've never seen the video myself.

[Mimi Brown]

I never seen any. I just heard about it.

[Lauren LaRosa]

But if you guys remember the 2008 case that R. Kelly was acquitted from and then he was later convicted it she declined to even testify. But she says even after doing that because people knew the story she had, she went by Sean. She didn't even go by her full name because whenever she would try and date apply for jobs, especially like within certain areas and like locations or whatever, people would know the story of what happened. So for a long time she kind of like hid from this and she wants people to know that this book isn't like a tell all. There's no. From her perspective, she doesn't even appear angry at R. Kelly in this book. It's just more about her getting it all out there saying how she feels so she can actually move on because she's never been able to do that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How old is she now?

[Lauren LaRosa]

She's in her 30s now. I would have to look that up. But R. Kelly's attorney did release a statement in response to her Rolling Stone interview that she did, not the CBS one. But they say that Mr. R. Kelly wishes Rashana all the best in life. At a young age she was unfairly forced into the public eye against her will by people that were only intent on destroying the reputation of R. Kelly. She did not deserve that. Mr. Kelly has no negative comments to make about her. He hopes she's f. She finds success in peace.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't understand that logic though. Because when you said he was trying to destroy R. Kelly's reputation. R. Kelly was destroying his own reputation by sleeping with a 14 year old girl. Recording it. No.

[Angela Yee]

Meaning whoever put out that tape was trying.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But you can't put out a tape if I don't engage in the behavior.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah, no, you're right. But, but, but, but whoever put out that tape was trying to destroy R. Kelly.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But in Kelly destroyed himself. Destroyed that young girl and taping it.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah, right.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And Rashawn, I want to correct myself.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

41.

[Angela Yee]

If they wanted to destroy, quote unquote, R. Kelly could have g. Gave it to the police. But they wanted to embarrass R. Kelly.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I thought they give it to the police. Did they give it to the police first?

[Angela Yee]

Then how did everybody that they were selling it like a mixtape back in the day?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, people had it. But I thought they gave it to the authorities back then.

[Angela Yee]

N. Once they were selling, I think the authorities picked it up.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I know at one point when the second trial came up, there was a journalist who had like sent some things over to police and that's how that second and the second go around when R. Kelly was actually convicted. That's how some of that stuff started. But I don't know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I thought everybody got it at once. Cuz I remember them pulling up. I. I wasn't working with Wendy at the time, but I remember her telling the. About how somebody pulled up in a limousine with champagne and everything else and was like, I need you to see this. And then they showed her the tape. But I thought that they gave it to the media and the authorities all at the same time.

[Angela Yee]

Nah, they were selling it. I remember leaving a club and there was somebody outside the club selling the tape.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He went to trial, right?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes, but he was. He was acquitted.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Back then.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

All right, well in our. In the next hour we'll be talking about. There's some.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Some.

[Lauren LaRosa]

There are some small updates. This is a crazy time to mention this. I'm. I'm not. We'll come back with some more news in the next latest. Cuz I don't even want to tie.

[Angela Yee]

The two things together using your head. Thank you.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Shut up.

[Angela Yee]

No, no, no, no. Shoot.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let me see if you made a smart decision.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I don't know if you saw the headline around this one. I don't have it written here.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know, but I see the word diddy, so you're probably right.

[Angela Yee]

Oh, Lord, who you giving your donkey to?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

4 after the hour. There's a young man from Florida named Jaylen Tyree Lewis. He is 22 years old and he just needs to come to the front of the congregation. We like to have a word with him.

[Angela Yee]

All right, we'll get to that. Next. It's the Breakfast Club.

[DJ Envy]

Good morning.

[LaRussell]

It's time for Donkey of the Day.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They made me the Dunkey of the.

[LaRussell]

Day by the things that I've said.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, Charlamagne. Some donkey. Today's just saw themselves.

[Mimi Brown]

It was you. What accountability.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Are you taking me off guard?

[Guest/Caller]

I'm not making.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

On the Breakfast Club.

[Guest/Caller]

That being said, I want to start off with this donkey right here.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Donkey today for Wednesday, February 4th, goes to a 22 year old Florida man named Jalen Tyree Lewis. I didn't even do the Florida intro, did I? Oh, come on. Bring it back. We got to bring it back. It ain't even right. I can't even do it. I'm sorry.

[Angela Yee]

Make sure you tell them to watch out for Florida, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The craziest people in America come from the Bronx in all of floor. Yes, you are a donkey.

[News Reporter]

A Florida man attacked an ATM for.

[Mimi Brown]

A very strange reason.

[News Reporter]

It gave him too much money. Florida man is arrested after deputies say he rigged the door to his home in an attempt to electrocute his pregnant wife.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Police arrested an Orlando man for attacking.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

A flamingo, the Breakfast Club Donkey of the Day with Charlemagne, the guy. I don't know why y' all keep letting him get y' all like this. No, Duvall, y' all keep doing it to yourself. Okay, Donkey Today for Wednesday, February 4th, goes to a 22 year old Florida man named Jalen Tyree Lewis. Okay, 22 years old. Very important to note that age. Oh, because. Because that means his prefrontal cortex is not fully developed yet. Okay, if you don't understand what the PFC is, it's simple. It's the part of your brain that's responsible for decision making, impulse control and planning. So if you're 22 years old from the Sunshine State have a fully developed prefrontal cortex, but you do have what we call a Florida lobe. Okay? Now a Florida lobe is the brain's command center, okay? It's responsible for all the same executive functions that the frontal lobe is responsible for. Decision making, impulse control, emotional regulation, planning. But since it's a Florida lobe, it never really does any of those things, okay? It never really matures. All Right. The frontal lobe is the last brain region to fully mature. But studies show the Florida lobe never really does. I know, I know, I know. Florida. Don't be mad at me. It's science. Now, Jalen Tyree Lewis is our latest evidence to this because he's facing charges of attempted first degree murder, aggravated battery and firing a weapon. Why did he let that hammer sing? Well, let's go to 25 WPBF News for the report, please. Investigators in Palm beach county believe the discovery shooting that landed a man in jail for attempted murder murder. Police say Jalen Lewis confronted the victim last night about being with his girlfriend. Investigators say Lewis then pulled a gun and fired at the other man, who suffered several gunshot wounds. Unknown to both men, the woman involved is dating both of them. Jay Lewis now charged with attempted murder. As I said, victim hospitalized with minor injury. You pistol popping for Poom Poom? Florida loaf. You letting off shots for sex. Florida loaf. Listen, man, my daddy told me a long time ago, don't be out here, you know, sleeping with another man's woman. I don't care how soft you think that man is. I don't care how much of a coward you think that man is. He will kill you over his woman. All right? The victim told Jalen, if you wanna, you can have her. And Jalen still shot him twice. Now, what I don't understand is if the guys didn't know this woman was dating both of them, why would you jail and be mad at the other dude? He didn't do nothing to you, all right? This woman out here risking yeast infections, pH balance all off because she's choosing to have multiple partners. Both of y' all brothers are victims in jail, failing. You're supposed to keep it, player, okay? Do you think for one second that woman cares about you? Do you think for one second that woman cares you in prison? Absolutely not. She gonna be out here celebrating Black History Month, okay? Enjoying the Super Bowl. Enjoying the Super Bowl. Valentine's Day will be spent with someone else, all right? The dude you shot, she probably sending him so many apologies right now. She probably feels so guilty that he got his hit, okay? That he can smash whenever he wants to, okay? He got the I can hit whenever I want to card for the foreseeable future, okay? Because she feels guilty. Listen, man, I tell you, Young, is this all the time. Don't make a permanent decision based off temporary feelings, okay? Whatever butterflies you had for that young lady, trust me, you would have found them for somebody else. It's Florida, Young man, okay? Women Are like gators in Florida. Miss one, next 15. One coming. Okay? You see her with another man, and that other man tells you, if you want her, you can have her. You supposed to say, I don't want her either. She for the streets. But instead you let her trick you off them same streets. She is folk, please give Jalen Tyree Lewis the biggest he. Huh? Ain't no way. Okay?

[Mimi Brown]

Crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Ain't no way. Shooting another man over no woman.

[Mimi Brown]

And she don't care.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like you said, she don't give a damn. She already having a ball.

[Angela Yee]

Chat. Chat won't play again.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Are they talking about me on Donkey of the Day?

[Mimi Brown]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I'm saying? I don't feel like playing the game.

[Angela Yee]

Chat won't play again.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, I don't care what the chat want this morning.

[Angela Yee]

They won't play a game.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, go play one. Play it in the chat.

[Mimi Brown]

What's his name again?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Jalen Tyree Lewis. From West Palm beach. From Order. Okay. Oh, come on. Y' all just want to.

[Mimi Brown]

No, Come on. This Black History Month, we're not going. We not going to do that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Anybody got time for all of this? I don't even like y' all assuming.

[Mimi Brown]

That'S crazy, all right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Really?

[Mimi Brown]

Jaylen Tyree.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Jaylen Tyree, Come on. You want to see his picture?

[Mimi Brown]

Yes, I do. All right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let me show you his picture at least.

[Mimi Brown]

You probably got like four wicks.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, you know what? They don't got his picture.

[Mimi Brown]

Oh, you know how them locks are from Florida.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what? You need to stop staring.

[LaRussell]

Stereotyping.

[Angela Yee]

What are you talking about?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You need to stop. They love.

[Mimi Brown]

They love that ceiling fan locks. Let me see.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They're not ceiling fan. They actually hang it.

[Angela Yee]

I knew it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[Angela Yee]

Thank you for that donkey today. Now let's open up the phone lines. 800-585-1051. What Kiki Palmer doing? What's she talking about? Lauren?

[Lauren LaRosa]

So Kiki Palmer was on the. She was on Today with Jenna and Chanel, and they were talking about, like, this new dating trip.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Chanel. Isn't Chanel on there now?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah. Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hold it. Quit, right?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah. Hold is not there anymore. Chanel Black. Yeah, her name is Chanel. Chanel Johnson. Hopefully I mess everybody's name up, but I believe I'm getting it right. She spells it different, too. It's like S, H, I, E.

[Mimi Brown]

I.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Believe it's okay, whatever it is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Jones. Chanel Jones.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Jones. I knew it was something black, too.

[LaRussell]

Black.

[Guest/Caller]

Yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I don't have that phone, Eddie. So she's on today with them and they're talking about this new date in trend. So there's this new dating trend where you talk about everything on the first date. So marriage politics, basically you get all the heavy stuff out the way. So y' all know if y' all need a second date, period. So they role play. And Kiki Palmer says in their conversation she does not want her partner living with her at all. Like, even when she's married, she's in a marriage. Yeah, yeah. She doesn't want her partner person living with her. And it's caused some conversation. People think it's so weird that she said that. There's a lot of people who live that way.

[Angela Yee]

Let's open up the phone lines. 800-585-1051. Do you live in a marriage where you and your spouse do not live in the same house? Does it work with you? Does it work for you? Let's discuss 800-585-1051. Me personally, I no way. Hell no.

[Mimi Brown]

No way.

[Angela Yee]

Even with me and my wife arguing, I still need to see her. Yeah, we just gonna be mad at each other.

[Mimi Brown]

Your house big enough you can go to one end and she can go to the other.

[Angela Yee]

No, we stay in that same bed.

[Lauren LaRosa]

She said you could do guest house or like around the corner.

[Mimi Brown]

No, I, I, yeah, yeah, that's, See, I guess we going to talk about it more because I agree with what she's saying, but that's for a certain type of person, I wouldn't do it, but I understand.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, I can't do it.

[Mimi Brown]

Cuz I think somebody been said that. I think Oprah or Gail, one of them said that too. When they, yeah, Shirley wrote. Right. But when they un, when they explained why, I understood it like, let's take your calls.

[Angela Yee]

When we come back, 800-585-1051 is the Breakfast Club.

[Guest/Caller]

Good morning.

[Angela Yee]

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. If you're just joining us, us, we're taking your phone calls. 800-585-1051. This comes from a conversation Kiki Palmer was having. And she was talking about when she gets married, she doesn't want her and her spouse live in the same house. Let's listen.

[Lauren LaRosa]

One thing I need you to know is that I never want to live together. I like my alone time.

[Mimi Brown]

But is that real?

[Lauren LaRosa]

That's real. I just feel like, you know, Whoopy Goldberg said it best. One, she was like, I don't want a better in My house?

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Marry even. He's going to live around the corner. Around the corner would be great. What about a guest? Would you let him live in the guest house? He can be in a guest house. You know what I'm saying? We can be on the same, you know, land. But I'm over there and he's over there. At best, separate rooms. But think about how fun it would be to be like, I'm going over to my man's house.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It keeps things right exciting. I want to go sit on his couch. And he better clean when you're coming over.

[LaRussell]

That's what I'm saying.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You know what? I will say. I'm laughing about it, but there are probably people watching right now who agree with you. Come on. It just helps to keep. I feel like sometimes you can be just too up under.

[Mimi Brown]

That's cute. In the beginning, you know what I'm saying? I want to go to my man's house. I want to go to, like. Yes. There's nothing like saying that when you're dating, but when you marry. I. I can't. I don't agree. I don't agree with it for myself.

[Lauren LaRosa]

That's.

[Angela Yee]

I.

[Mimi Brown]

It's absolutely mandatory for me to live in the house with my husband and. But I do understand why a person like Sheryl Lee Ralph would say that. Now, Keke is young. I don't know. Unless she just went through the ringer with her baby father. I don't know. I guess all the turmoil that they went through, I guess that got her to that point.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But.

[Mimi Brown]

And that could change for Kiki because she's younger. But Sheryl Lee Ralph, I do understand, for one, her and her husband live in two different states. He's into. He's a politician or something like that, and she's an actress. And she has to be on a certain side, you know, in a certain city, because she films most of the time. So I understand that. Then they older. They done had years and years and years. And when you get older. I do know this because I know this from my grandmother. You want your space. And they. She ain't gonna leave them. Like, they got her. And my grandfather was together. They were together for so long that she didn't want to leave them, but she didn't want to live with them. That's just how that was.

[Angela Yee]

I don't know how many. How many girlfriends your grandfather had.

[Mimi Brown]

We not. I don't know.

[Angela Yee]

Okay.

[Mimi Brown]

I have no idea.

[Angela Yee]

All right?

[Mimi Brown]

Because remember I told you she shot him in the ass one Time.

[Angela Yee]

Right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was asking.

[News Reporter]

Right.

[Angela Yee]

But somebody shot me in the ass. I don't know if I want to live in a house, but that's what.

[Mimi Brown]

But he. He bought that on the South.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Now, you telling the truth about this?

[Mimi Brown]

No, I swear. No. For I was telling the truth about the church, but my mother didn't want me to reveal that about our church.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Have your mama call and say, hey, don't be talking about my mama now. No, just my father. Mother. Okay.

[Mimi Brown]

All right. Yeah. Yo, I gotta leave my family business out of this. But yes, like, I do understand. I just don't agree with it. For me.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah. I can't. I cannot be married to my wife and we not live in the same house.

[Mimi Brown]

Like, I just can't.

[Angela Yee]

Like, we are up under each other and. And I'm fine with it. I love it. Even when we arguing, I want to look at her miserable. She will look at me miserable. We just gonna be miserable in the same bed together. Yeah, but now we are not. No way. Hell no. You live in this house, I live in that. No, no, that's. No, no, no.

[Mimi Brown]

It's not happening.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. I have no idea what Kiki Palmer is talking about. And neither does she. Okay? She. She. She sounds like a person who's never been married. I would actually listen to her and respect it more if she had some lived experience. Okay. What's the point of being married if you're not gonna live with each other? That's part of being married. That's how you build deep intimacy with a person. That's how you share daily responsibilities. That's how you have long. You build long term compatibility. Do you need space sometimes? Of course. Do you need me? Time alone time? Of course. But what's the point of being married if you're not under the same roof? How does that work with the kids? There's nothing better than being in the bed with your wife in the middle of the night and one of your kids come in because they say that they had a bad dream or they stomach hurt. You want to be there for every waking moment?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Absolutely.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So I don't like no like no.

[Angela Yee]

Kiki, but we have somebody on the line that said it works for them. Hello? Who's this?

[Caller]

I'm a remain anonymous Breakfast Club.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What's up?

[Angela Yee]

What's up?

[Mimi Brown]

We cannot see you, girl.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How are you?

[Lauren LaRosa]

That's all right.

[Caller]

Jeff. Don't, don't, don't.

[Angela Yee]

You said this works for you in a situation where you and your husband don't live in the same house.

[Caller]

It's not a situation. This is an actual relationship. Don't play with me.

[Angela Yee]

I'm sorry. Go ahead, break it down.

[Caller]

We are actually in a relationship. We have dated for about six years.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You're not married?

[Caller]

Engaged. A little over two years.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Are y' all married, though? No, we're not.

[Caller]

We're not married just yet.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So why are we listening to her? Damn.

[Mimi Brown]

Because she understands.

[Caller]

You know what, Charlemagne? The same way everybody don't want the same thing.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[Caller]

And not everybody is traditional. And when I got with him, I let him know I'm not the most traditional person.

[LaRussell]

Person.

[Caller]

And I've stuck with that. It's more me than him. And a lot of the times when you hear about people not wanting to live together, it is the female. It's more the female than the man. The man is like, we need to be under one roof.

[Mimi Brown]

But I feel like that comes from, like, trauma, like, something had to happen. Why the hell do you ever, ever want a house divided? Like, you know what I'm saying?

[Caller]

Like, it's not divided. It's not divided. It's not divided. I sleep with him. He sleeps with me every night. We're not sitting here like. Like, not together. It's not divided. There's no trauma. There's no trauma, assisted or associated with not wanting to live together.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, but y' all sleep together every night. You just said how, and then you go home.

[Mimi Brown]

Well, on the phone or. Like, what.

[DJ Envy]

What do you do?

[Caller]

Well, technically, the home is next door, so.

[News Reporter]

Yeah.

[Angela Yee]

Oh, so y. L. Next door.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Next door.

[Mimi Brown]

On the same land, not just next door to each other.

[Caller]

Yes, exactly what Kiki Palmer said.

[LaRussell]

Where you.

[Caller]

You're right here. I'm right here. Okay. It works. You got your space. We. Our spaces literally are right there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No problem. All that unnecessary listening to you till you get married. That's the whole biggest. That's the gist then.

[Caller]

Charlemagne. I'll call you back when I get married. I got my ring on my finger. That's gonna be my husband.

[Angela Yee]

So question. When you have kids, who. Who the kids gonna live with?

[Caller]

Oh, no, honey, we don't have kids. I'm too old to have kids. My kids are grown. He has a.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He.

[Caller]

He does have children, but his children are grown. Semi grown.

[Mimi Brown]

And one is kind of middle schoolish saying, she older.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She is. The wedding.

[Caller]

Say it again.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

When's the wedding?

[Caller]

When is the wedding? Well, we're hoping the wedding will be in the next year or two, but we want to buy some homes first. We want to buy some Land first.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And we don't want to miss that.

[Angela Yee]

Okay, so what are you gonna do when you look out the window?

[Caller]

Income, Jess. Income. Income. Don't play with me.

[Angela Yee]

And you see another coming in that house, what do you do?

[Caller]

Oh, then you wouldn't be living next door.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why do you even bring that into the.

[Guest/Caller]

I'm just curious.

[Caller]

No, it's a reasonable question. You're definitely a reasonable question. There should be. But there should be. If there's a respect factor and you all have had that conversation, it shouldn't be. Let's play around with each other's feelings, and let's play around with each other's lives. This is a conversation, like Kiki Palmer said, you have to have early and in the beginning. Sometimes you probably don't think it's going to be like, oh, well, maybe we'll fall in love and, you know, we'll change each other's minds. But people have to understand that if you are honest from the beginning, you can't fault a person for wanting to stick to their honesty. And a lot of people just don't want to live together. It's all right as long as you're taking care of your business and I'm taking care of him, and he's taking care of me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, we appreciate you, but we need to talk to some. Some married people.

[Angela Yee]

585, 105.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Talking to everybody that's not married about. You.

[Mimi Brown]

See, that's trauma. I don't care what nobody say. People don't start off like that. Something had to happen. Like, there's no way.

[Angela Yee]

If you're just joining us, we're talking about something that Kiki Palmer said about marriage. Let's listen.

[Lauren LaRosa]

One thing I need you to know is that I never want to live together. I like my alone time. But is that real?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's real.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I just feel like, you know, Whoopi Goldberg said it best one, she was like, I don't want nobody in my house.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Marry even.

[Mimi Brown]

She's gonna live around the corner.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Around the corner would be great. What about a guest house? Would you let him live in the guest house? He can at a guest house. You know what I'm saying?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We.

[Lauren LaRosa]

We can be on the same, you know, land, but I'm over there and he's over there. At best, separate rooms. But think about how fun it would be to be like, I'm going over to my man's house.

[Guest/Caller]

Yeah.

[Mimi Brown]

It keeps things right.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Exciting. I want to go sit on his couch, you know, and he better clean.

[Mimi Brown]

When you're coming over.

[LaRussell]

That's what I'm saying.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You know what?

[Mimi Brown]

I will say.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm laughing about it. But there are probably people watching right.

[Mimi Brown]

Now who agree with you.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Come on. Many people. Helps to keep. I feel like sometimes you can be just two up under.

[Angela Yee]

So we're taking your calls. 800-585-1051. Hello? Who's this?

[Caller]

Oh, my God.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It's Liz.

[Caller]

Good morning.

[Guest/Caller]

Good morning.

[Angela Yee]

Now, Liz, are you married and you and your spouse don't live in the same home?

[Caller]

Yes, I am married and we are not living in the same home. We just recently got married.

[Mimi Brown]

Congratulations.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn. Oh, just now of 2025. Yes, now the floor is yours. I will listen to you. Now tell me why y' all not living together?

[Caller]

Well, right now we're trying to sort things out. That's number one. He has his own apartment leases and stuff like that. But let me tell you something. I was in a relationship for five years and it was the worst of the worst. The breakup was horrible. I ended up with nothing. I had to leave the apartment. It was just starting over. I understand where she's coming from.

[DJ Envy]

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[Caller]

You know what I'm saying? Like, it's hard to trust someone when like, you know, if it doesn't end well, what's gonna happen with the lease? And then you have things invested. What if you don't get the things back?

[Mimi Brown]

So why did you get married again, baby? Don't really sound like you were ready.

[Guest/Caller]

For that because you.

[Mimi Brown]

You still hurt from that five year relationship, you know know you jumped the brim again.

[Caller]

Relationship, it healed. It was actually ended three years ago. And I actually met this person a year ago and he actually is slowly and accepting of what I went through. So he's actually allowing me to be me.

[Angela Yee]

So y' all don't live with each other and y' all not moving in with each other. Y' all gonna keep it that way, separate?

[Mimi Brown]

I think they're going to.

[Caller]

Oh no, no, no. We're definitely gonna move in. But I understand where she's coming from. I'm a little scared now. Listen.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Is he scared to move in with you? Cuz you Latino at a time like this?

[Angela Yee]

Oh my God.

[Caller]

Literally he is capable of. It's just like I said, you have to really kind of know the person. But I also took time to heal.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think he was talking like shut up. I was not. Wait, what happen because Latinos, what's the race of your. Your husband?

[Caller]

Well, my.

[News Reporter]

He's white.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He's an ally.

[LaRussell]

You right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

My suspicion was right, yeah, he's a little sc.

[Caller]

I'm Hispanic.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He's scared to move in with you. You know, you might get that knock at the door. I'm just saying you. You might get that knock.

[Mimi Brown]

Damn.

[Caller]

No, no, no. Poor thing. He's not going to get the knock. We're well documented, so that's not the issue. But it was like I said it was. I had to take time to heal. Like I didn't want.

[Mimi Brown]

I was the trauma.

[Caller]

Whoever was. It was. Yeah, whatever, man came to my house. I was like, you're not going home. Like you don't have a home.

[Mimi Brown]

Damn. So yeah, she a little scared, but congratulations on you getting married. I think that's dope, that's fire. But like, I think you should like do some type of therapy to get over you being scared to live with your spouse. I mean, because it's just still like you still hurt from that, you know what I mean? I know it was three years ago. That seemed like a long time to you, but you taking that into your new marriage. You know what I'm saying?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Caller]

And you know what's so crazy? Charlemagne. It's crazy because when I used to be with my ex partner, we used to listen to like the Breakfast Club and I always used to be like, oh, my God. I do not like Charlemagne. I feel like he is so judgmental.

[Mimi Brown]

Yes.

[Caller]

And then he'll be like, why? That's his personality. But it's so crazy. It was my first time in a while listening to you guys life, and I was just like, wow, like, I have progressed because I. I used to ignore your. Your whole morning show because of what I went through.

[Angela Yee]

Oh, well, I'm glad you healed, mama.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I'm not judgmental. I just judge certain situations.

[Mimi Brown]

Very judgmental.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, no, no.

[Caller]

You're amazing. Let me tell you something. I heard your podcast with Mel Robbins. You are amazing. You're a very great speaker. So believe it or not, you're amazing. And I love you guys so much. Have a wonderful, wonderful day.

[Mimi Brown]

I love you too.

[Angela Yee]

All right, well, what's the moral of the story? If there's a moral, don't listen to.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Married, unmarried people about marriage.

[Mimi Brown]

About marriage.

[News Reporter]

Yeah.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's the moral of the story. I only want to talk to people who have done this successfully that are. Are happily married.

[Mimi Brown]

But I guarantee you, Kiki feels like that because of what she went through with her son's father. I guarantee you that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I feel like people say that until they find the right person.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Right?

[Guest/Caller]

Exactly.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

When you find that right person, you want to be with that person. To 24, 7, 365. That's the whole beauty of marriage.

[Angela Yee]

Absolutely.

[Mimi Brown]

Some of us stay in relationships too long that we. That's not good for us. We stay in it too long, and that's how you end up hurt. And. And just like what Kiki said.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You was trying. You had. Me bring it home. Then the thought you was bringing it home.

[LaRussell]

I need to stop.

[Angela Yee]

Almost had it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You almost got there. You gave up on yourself.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Spit it out.

[Mimi Brown]

Just Dale, you almost like you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was like, okay, she got it. She got it.

[Mimi Brown]

Let her be silent too long.

[Angela Yee]

All right, well, we got the latest with Laura coming up. Mr. Breakfast Club.

[Mimi Brown]

Good morning, Lauren be coming in straight fast.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She gets him from somebody that knows some boxing details.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm the home girl that knows a little bit about everything.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She be having the latest on.

[DJ Envy]

The.

[LaRussell]

Latest with Lauren LaRosa.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Sometimes you have facts, sometimes you have details. Sometimes she have a little bit of everything. Well, it's the latest brought to you.

[LaRussell]

By Top Dog law on the Breakfast Club.

[Lauren LaRosa]

All right, y'.

[LaRussell]

All.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So a quick update in the Savannah Guthrie case. So I just saw a report that I wanted to mention. You were talking about potentially this being like an inside job. Now, this is not confirmed. I reached out to police and have not heard back yet. I reached out to police, police in New York and also in Arizona, and I'll explain why. So there's a report that NBC had to beef up their security and add extra security for their talent, including nypd, just because behind the scenes, all of the talent is scared. Because they're, of course, they're connecting the disappearance of Savannah's mom to her and kind of her stature on the show. And they're not for sure why she was targeted, but police have said that they do feel like she was abducted and potentially targeted. So they beat up, beefed up security there. But Ashley Banfield, who used to have a show on News Nation, is reporting that per a police source, Savannah's son, Savannah, Savannah Gunthrie's brother in law, may be a suspect of the police. So Savannah has a sister named Annie, and this guy is married to Annie. And they were the last two to see Savannah's mom alive. They went out to dinner the night before they reported her missing. Now, again, I haven't confirmed. Confirmed what I just mentioned to you guys, but those things are being reported right now, so I wanted to update that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Sounds like an inside job.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nobody just takes a 80 something year old woman from their house.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And there's like the video, like blood splattered outside her house that police haven't addressed yet. But they. Like I told you guys, they said they were concerned by the scene, but.

[Mimi Brown]

Okay, then obviously it's like a high profile or high surveillance community that she lives in. It has to be like a gate or whatever.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Like cameras and stuff, too.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah, yeah, the home, they're going through that.

[Lauren LaRosa]

But they do. They did say that some cameras were missing. So they're trying to figure out all the chain of events inside.

[Mimi Brown]

For sure.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes. Okay, so now in other news, Cameron has finally addressed his issues or lack thereof or whatever because the case was dismissed, the lawsuit was dismissed with J. Cole on his show. Now, I want to mention that this is not his full statement on it. It actually airs tonight on Talk with Flea on Revolt. But this is a clip that was posted. Let's take a listen.

[Guest/Caller]

Me and J. Cole are cool or was cool. This is exactly what happened on his first project. He did. I did an intro for him. I told him I May need a verse. Whenever I get a project, I need a verse. I'm exaggerating. He's like, the chakra ain't right right now. And, you know, the moon got along with the stars. You know, when I write, I put my all into it. Okay, let's put you all into it. Then I say, you know what? Forget the record. Let's do an interview. Bet. I got you. I got a project coming out in June. Let's do it around there. Cool. June is coming. Oh, we push the album back. I don't want to just do an interview now. We're going to do an interview in October. All right, I'll call you back in October. Now this is when all the beef is going on with Kendrick Lamar. I can't do it now because I don't feel like talking about that right now. I said, look, I'll do the interview. I won't even bring that up. He says, nah, I can't do no interview and not talk about it. Well, when can I get the interview? February. I'm dead ass on February. February come. Y' all still working, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Listen. Sounds like J. Cole was giving him the industry run around. And if someone does something for you in a timely manner and y' all agree, favor for a favor, favor. When he reaches. When Cam reached out for that favor, you should repay that favor.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's really that simple.

[Angela Yee]

Absolutely.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It shouldn't be difficult at all.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And that lawsuit that was filed by Cameron was dismissed voluntarily, but it could be fought again if. If he chooses to. You guys remember that that was over the Ready 24 collaboration, and he had mentioned trying to recoup over 500, 000, but that was business.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Is business.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah, I do understand it, though. Like, yeah, no, I don't want to do an interview because I don't want to talk about it, but you can't ask me about it. But he could have said the verse.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah, yeah. Stars and, like, you know, get your chakras together and center first. No, for sure.

[Lauren LaRosa]

100.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Happy born day. To Cam, too. Today's kids.

[Mimi Brown]

Yes. And also, it's Rosa Park's birthday. She would have been 113, y'.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All. I doubt it. But yes, rest. Yes. Rest in peace.

[Mimi Brown]

It's just 113 shows.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's a lot.

[Angela Yee]

That.

[Mimi Brown]

Well, yeah. All right, go ahead, Lauren.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What else you got?

[Mimi Brown]

I'm.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm wrapping up now. I want to tell you guys. Please listen to the latest with Lauren.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Rosa, the podcast. We're going to get. Get into some of the Epstein file. Things that we did not talk about today because Bill and Melinda Gates have addressed Bill Gates coming up in those emails or emails that weren't sent. We're gonna talk about it over on the podcast, so please take a listen. And this was brought to you by Top Dog Law.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's crazy to be giving out this. I don't know if the story is true, but, man, you get to a certain age, you can't be out here giving out STDs because you ever, like, you know, when you get. I'm 47, born in 1900, so when you hold your people. I've never had STD in my life. But when you hold your pee for a long time, you go pee. How refreshing it feels. Yeah. And. But, you know, your knees buckle a little bit. You know what I'm saying? When you get to a certain age, like, oh, you gotta do the little shimmy. You'd be like, oh, you know What I mean? 50 plus years old with a gonorrhea burning at the stall, no discharge, looking crazy.

[LaRussell]

That'd be incredible.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's crazy.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah. For those who don't know, it was alleged that he, Bill Gates, had more affairs and that this came out an email that he gave. Allegedly Melinda negates STDs, and she has addressed it. Unfortunately, she's had to address it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You can't be old and catch an std. That's a young man sport.

[Angela Yee]

All right, well, that is the latest.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's crazy. Damn.

[Angela Yee]

Let's get into it. We come back, we're gonna start to mix up with some Cameron. Happy birthday. It's the Breakfast Club.

[DJ Envy]

Good morning.

[Angela Yee]

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious Charlamagne. The guy. We are the Breakfast Club. It's Black History Month.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What we doing today, man, you know, Salute to B. Dot. Every day during Black History Month, my guy B Dot does a podcast on the Black Effect Podcast network called I didn't know. Maybe you didn't either, where he gives you some Black History Month facts you may not have known. And today he's speaking on a forgotten court case that cracked segregation's foundation.

[Guest/Caller]

Let's discuss the first desegregation case wasn't Brown versus the Board of Education. Welcome back know it alls to another episode of the most anticipated podcast on the Black Effect Podcast Network, especially in February, entitled I didn't know. Maybe you didn't either. I'm your host, B. Dot. I'm Carla's husband and Isaiah and Ryan's father. And true to form, we will kick off today's episode with three of the most useless facts you'll never need, not a day in life. Up first, the legal strategy that won Brown versus the Board of Education was tested seven years earlier by a Mexican American family in Orange County, California. Your second useless fact. Thurgood Marshall, the man who argued Brown and later became the first black Supreme Court justice, he wrote a legal brief for that earlier case and used that as his model. And your third useless fact? The lead plaintiff's daughter received the presidential medal of freedom him from Barack Obama in 2011 for a case most Americans have never heard of.

[LaRussell]

I know I hadn't.

[Guest/Caller]

Okay, first order of business is let's clear something up. Brown versus the Board of education didn't stand start desegregation. No, it finished a legal fight that honestly started with a nine year old Mexican American girl in Orange County. Her name is Sylvia Mendez. In 1944, Sylvia's family moved to Westminster, California to work a farm. But here's the thing. The farm wasn't theirs. It belonged to the Munamitsu family, a Japanese American family who had been forcibly removed to an internment camp. So the Mendez family, family, Mexican American citizens, were only there because another minority family had been stolen from their land. That's the backdrop now. When Sylvia's aunt tried to register her and her brothers at the local school, the clerk said, well, the Mendez children have to go to the Mexican school. The school superintendent, James Kent, later said in court that Mexican Americans were intellectually, culturally and morally inferior to European Americans. Those were his words on the record. Sylvia's parents didn't accept that. They hired attorney David Marcus and they sued. Four other families joined Mendez versus Westminster went to trial in 1946. Now, here's what made it revolutionary. Attorney Marcus didn't just argue that Mexican schools had worse resources. He argued that segregation itself caused psychological harm. He brought in social scientists to testify that separating children made them feel inferior. Sound familiar? Cause that's the same argument that Thurgood Marshall would use. Eight years later in Brown, Judge Paul McCormick ruled in favor of the Mendez family. The school district, of course, appealed. And that's when the NAACP got involved. Thurgood Marshall and Robert Carter wrote a brief supporting the Mendez family. And Robert Carter later said that the NAACP's briefs were the model for the briefs in Brown versus the Board of Education. So on April 14, 1947, the Ninth Circuit upheld the ruling. Two months later, the governor of California, Earl Warren, the same man who would later become Chief justice and alter the Brown decision, signed A bill ending school segregation in California. California became the first state to officially desegregate its public schools. Did you know that? That was seven years before Brown. But here's what they don't teach you. The Japanese American Citizens League also filed a brief. The American Jewish Congress also filed a brief. Multiple communities came together because they understood that they can segregate one of us. Hell, they can segregate all of us. In 2011, President Barack Obama awarded Sylvia Mendez the Presidential Medal of freedom. She was 75 years old. Her father, Gonzalo had died in 1964, 10 years after Brown at the age of 51. He never saw the full impact of what his family started. Brown versus Board. That gets the chapter in the textbook. But Mendez vs Westminster has got a footnote. Because without Mendez, there is no Brown. The first desegregation case wasn't decided in 1954. It was decided in 1947 by a Mexican American family. Family farming land that belonged to a Japanese American family locked in an internment camp. And Thurgood Marshall took the nose and I didn't know. Maybe you didn't either.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I didn't know.

[Angela Yee]

All right. Salute to B Dot.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Now you. You see something? Just one thing about B Dot. He actually tells people things.

[Guest/Caller]

Wow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They may not have known.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah, I understand. I do the same thing. Everybody in the.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

In the whole world.

[Mimi Brown]

World does not know what I'm. What I'm about to even tell y' all today.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

If you brought that out to the whole world. Yeah.

[Angela Yee]

Now just tell us something we don't know.

[Mimi Brown]

Okay, I'mma ask y'.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All.

[Mimi Brown]

Cuz I'm tired of acting like y' all don't know things. And you know, y' all do.

[Angela Yee]

Okay.

[Mimi Brown]

Did y' all know?

[Angela Yee]

Did we know that?

[Mimi Brown]

Just Monday, groundhog punks. The tawny Phil seen the shadow and he predicts six more weeks of winter.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah, you didn't. You didn't mention it Monday.

[Mimi Brown]

I know it was a lot going on. We had Grammys. We had party on snl. You know, had Nikki losing mind. We had a lot of things going on.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm tired of that groundhog. It's cold.

[Mimi Brown]

I understand. But you didn't even say it.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I didn't say. I'm sorry. My bad.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right.

[Mimi Brown]

I'm pretty sure some people didn't even know when Groundhog Day was. Some people don't know what a groundhog even is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So. You know, that's more than just Will, though. You got Woodstock Willie. Okay. Yeah. Woodstock Willie. He actually didn't see his Shadow on Groundhog Day.

[Mimi Brown]

That's why we're not worried about him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We worried about two, though. You got Phil and Woody, but both of them go on the grill. If you ask me, we get two, you eat.

[Lauren LaRosa]

He's from South Carolina.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Woodstock Willie is from Woodstock, Illinois. And who's the other one? Pit. He from which one?

[Angela Yee]

One died a couple years ago. Like a year ago.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I remember one guy, but I thought this one was a replacement for the one that died. So who's. Who's been the one that was telling us all these things for, like, when I was young and I really believed it.

[Guest/Caller]

Who.

[Mimi Brown]

That was Puntasani Field uncle. That was. I don't know his. I don't know his name, but he's related to the one that saw a shadow the other day. And we have six more weeks of winter, y'.

[DJ Envy]

All.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Maybe.

[Angela Yee]

Maybe nobody really believes in groundhog. I be believing that somebody said groundhog meat is delicious.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm with you. I'll put that groundhog on the grill.

[Angela Yee]

You hear me?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'll take. I'll take him down to BDS back backyard dining. Okay.

[Mimi Brown]

I'll make sure I call Peter right now.

[LaRussell]

You go.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Groundhog will be right there at that BDS dining experience. You hear me? Getting fried up.

[Lauren LaRosa]

That's how my family is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Shout out to Bernard. Salute to my guy, Bernard Hardison. Bernard will fry that groundhog up, man. We gotta do that next year. But no, we're gonna do that for Groundhog Day next year.

[LaRussell (rap segment)]

Sat back.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, you don't got. Now you poke.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Oh, you only perk no more. You used to.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, I'm gonna do that just to piss people off. We're gonna get us a groundhog and fry it next year. Okay?

[Lauren LaRosa]

I won't be that.

[LaRussell]

That's disgusting.

[Angela Yee]

Sound good?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, let's fry that groundhog.

[Angela Yee]

I mean, the chat must know, cuz they like barbecue. Groundhog is amazing.

[Lauren LaRosa]

All that.

[Mimi Brown]

They are so d. You got to eat raccoon, too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I. I've eaten. Cool.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, I have, too.

[Mimi Brown]

I've eaten raccoon.

[News Reporter]

I've tried that.

[Mimi Brown]

My yo envy is freaked out.

[LaRussell]

I've had.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I've had raccoon. I've had bear shoulder. Of course. Deer. You know what I'm saying? Squirrel.

[LaRussell]

Squirrel hash.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I ain't never had squirrel.

[Caller]

Squirrel hash.

[LaRussell (rap segment)]

Ash.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Angela Yee]

Possum, too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I never eat no possum. But my daddy used to always say, if you driving down the road and you see something on the side of the road, like some roadkill or something, you hop Out. You put your hand on it. Okay? If it's cold, you leave it there. If it's warm, it's dinner. God.

[Mimi Brown]

Die.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I know. That's right.

[Mimi Brown]

Y' all would live. Oh, my God. Life of barbarians down there, south corner.

[Angela Yee]

I barely picked up road kill and ate it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, man, I'm telling. Go home and clean it.

[Angela Yee]

I don't know.

[Guest/Caller]

What's the joke?

[Mimi Brown]

That. Oh, Lord.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What are y' all doing? Dominican communities, huh? What do y' all eat, sir? Not Dominicans. Other than your cousins. What? Oh, my God. Stop. They don't eat their cousins.

[Guest/Caller]

You know what?

[Angela Yee]

Leave us on a positive note.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Listen, wait, hold on. Before you're positive, I have to say something. I gotta let the people know because Top Dog Law sponsors the latest.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, my gosh.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I gotta let them know that y' all can call Top Dog Law for any action, accident, big or small. Dot com.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Go ahead. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to step on you.

[Mimi Brown]

Good.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Go to Top dog law.com for any accident, big or small. How can you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Listen, Top Dog Law is the number one law firm in the hood, everywhere. All right? Everybody know Top Dog Law. Cuz you can't avoid it.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Top Dog Law say, get out the car. You put your hand on it, it's still warm.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You see what I'm saying? Get the accent. Put the head on. It's still warm. Everywhere we go is screaming at us all the goddamn time. I can be in another state.

[DJ Envy]

Sir.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Listen. Helen Keller once said that character cannot be developed in ease and in quiet. Okay? Only through experience of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthened, ambition inspired, and success achieved. Have a great day.

[Mimi Brown]

How the hell she knows she was blind and deaf? And she had you read that where.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She wrote that she still became Helen Keller. Think about that. She was blind and deaf, and I'm quoting her, all these years later. So, yeah, she knows. She knows a little thing or two about succeeding.

[Mimi Brown]

Lord Jesus.

[Angela Yee]

Okay, Breakfast Club finish or y' all done woke up?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wake you up.

[Angela Yee]

Wake that ass up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Angela Yee]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Lauren LaRosa]

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