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Lauren LaRosa
This is an iHeart podcast.
DJ Envy
Wednesday at 10, 9 Central on BET. An all new episode of 106 in Sports from executive producers LeBron James and Maverick Carter. It's a new top five countdown with hosts Ashley Nicole Moss and Cam Newton. They're breaking down the top moments in sports, culture and entertainment and highlighting both established pros and the stars on the come up. Watch the all new series 106 in sports Wednesday at 10, 9 Central on BET or catch up the next day on BET.
Charlamagne Tha God
Hello America's Sweetheart. Johnny Knoxville here. I want to tell you about my new true crime podcast, Crimeless Hillbilly Heist from Smartless Media, Campside Media and big money players. It's a wild tale about a gang of high functioning nitwits who who somehow pulled off America's third largest cash heist.
DJ Envy
Kind of like Robin Hood, except for the part where he steals from the rich and gives to the poor. I'm not that generous.
Charlamagne Tha God
It's a damn near inspiring true story for anyone out there who's ever shot for the moon, then just totally muffed up the landing.
DJ Envy
They stole $17 million and had not bought a ticket to help him escape.
Abby Phillip
So we're sitting like oh God, what do we do? What do we do?
DJ Envy
That was dumb. People, do not follow my example.
Charlamagne Tha God
Listen to Crimeless Hillbilly Heist on the.
DJ Envy
Iheartradio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Abby Phillip
I live below a cult leader and.
Lauren LaRosa
I fear I've angered her.
Jessalarius
Wait a minute, Sophia, how do you.
Charlamagne Tha God
Know she's a cult leader?
Lauren LaRosa
Well, Dakota, luckily it's I'm not afraid.
Abby Phillip
Of a scary story week on the OK Storytime Podcast so we'll find out soon. This person writes, My neighbor has been blasting music every day and doing dirt rituals and now my ceiling is collapsing. I tried to report them, but things keep getting weirder. I think they might be part of a cult.
DJ Envy
Hold up a real life cult. And what is a dirt ritual?
Abby Phillip
No clue, Dakota. Find out how it ends. Listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Mimi Brown
The murder of an 18 year old girl in Graves County, Kentucky went unsol for years until a local housewife, a journalist and a handful of girls came forward with a story.
Lauren LaRosa
America, y' all better wake the hell up.
DJ Envy
Bad things happens to good people in small towns.
Mimi Brown
Listen to Graves county on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season Ad free. Subscribe to Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcasts.
Charlamagne Tha God
Good morning, usa.
DJ Envy
Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo.
Charlamagne Tha God
Jess. Hilarious.
Jessalarius
Good morning, Charlemagne.
Charlamagne Tha God
Running a little late. And it's Tuesday. What's up, Jess? How you feeling?
Jessalarius
It's good to see you.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes, I'm back from Dominica, Serbia.
DJ Envy
On the road.
Jessalarius
Okay.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
Abby Phillip
This week?
Jessalarius
Dominica, yes. Where you going next week?
Charlamagne Tha God
I'm good this week.
Jessalarius
Oh, wait, the week before that.
Lauren LaRosa
Greece.
Charlamagne Tha God
I forgot I was in Greece. Yeah, Then I was in. I had to go to Austin, Texas for F1.
DJ Envy
Okay.
Charlamagne Tha God
This week I'm going to Philly.
Jessalarius
Okay.
Charlamagne Tha God
Salute to Philly.
Jessalarius
Right down the street.
Charlamagne Tha God
Delaware State versus Norfolk State game. Deshaun Jackson and Michael Vick, both of those head coaches, they're gonna be playing this in Philly this week, which is gonna be pretty dope. So I'm gonna go support my HBCUs. Not going that far. Just down the road. That's it. Yeah, and a half. That's it.
Jessalarius
But can't nobody ever say that you.
Charlamagne Tha God
Don'T be doing nothing. Oh, no, I be out.
Abby Phillip
I'm outside touching people.
Jessalarius
Remember when Dane was like, you changed your last time, he saw you whole time, he said.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, he said.
Jessalarius
He said, you don't do nothing but be in the radio in the coffin.
Charlamagne Tha God
I know.
Jessalarius
And you be out here, man.
Charlamagne Tha God
The funny thing is, every time I post a. A picture of where I'm at, everybody starts tagging, Dame, look at these views.
DJ Envy
Look at these views.
Jessalarius
But that's his fault because he the one that challenged you to the view.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Salute to Dame Dash.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
But if you're traveling, no matter where you have to go, give yourself a little extra time. As I was flying back from Dominica. Yeah, there's not too many flights from Dominica. But because of the weather in Jamaica and the hurricanes that's about to hit Jamaica today, they're saying, but because of the hurricanes, Hurricane Melissa, I was delayed for a long time. Like, I didn't get home until 1:30 in the morning. Like, it was just delayed. And this is the first time I ever heard the pilot say, look, you better go to the bathroom now. I'm not taking the seatbelt sign off.
Abby Phillip
Oh, wow.
Charlamagne Tha God
The stewardess are not getting up, so you better go to the bathroom now. This is gonna be a. A bumpy one.
Jessalarius
Oh, wow.
Charlamagne Tha God
And it was.
DJ Envy
It was.
Charlamagne Tha God
We were Wobble, wobble, shaking, shake the whole time. But we made it back safe.
DJ Envy
So.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah. So give yourself a little ext. Sure. Mimi will be filling us in. What's going on with Jamaican. Yeah, I've been seeing so many. They're saying this is going to be the worst hurricane. If it is like it is now, over 170mph winds, this is going to be the worst hurricane ever to hit Jamaica. They say Jamaica is probably going to be unrecognizable and there's still people there that haven't evacuated. There's tourists still there. So there's a lot going on. I'm sure she'll break that down. But today on the show, Abby Phillip will be joining us. She's a CNN anchor, senior political correspondent and host of News Night with Abby Phillip. She has a new book, A Dream Deferred, Jesse Jackson and the Fight for Black Political Power. It's out today and we'll talk to her in a little bit. But let's get the show cracking. We got front page news. What's up, Charlamagay? It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page news now. Major League Baseball. Last night's game, The Dodgers won 6, 5. It was. Went to 18 innings. The game was seven hours long. Why, damn it went to 18 innings.
DJ Envy
They gotta start doing steroids.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes.
Jessalarius
You cannot do that.
Charlamagne Tha God
No, you definitely can't do that.
DJ Envy
But that was what was better. When everybody was on steroids and the games were shorter, more home runs.
Charlamagne Tha God
But they, they got, they do it better. The games are a lot shorter now. They have the games running. But when I got on the plane, the game was happening.
DJ Envy
When I got.
Charlamagne Tha God
It was happening. When I got home, it was still happening.
Jessalarius
Damn.
DJ Envy
For the baseball fans in the room, the Dominican Envy and Puerto Rican Dominica.
Charlamagne Tha God
I'm not Dominican, but Guy.
DJ Envy
Is that entertaining? I don't know.
Charlamagne Tha God
I'm asking that long.
DJ Envy
Come on.
Charlamagne Tha God
If your team is playing. Yes. Because it's an inning where you're hoping for a home run or you're hoping for enough runs. I think so. What you think?
DJ Envy
I feel like 18 innings is too long.
Charlamagne Tha God
But what you gonna do if your team is playing? It's. Even if it is.
Jessalarius
Yeah, Even if it is your team, you can take a break and go do something to come back. Like if you can take a break and go watch a movie and come back and the game is still on.
DJ Envy
But Then people got work in the morning.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, well, there's no tie. In baseball, you can't tie, so you gotta close it out. The only time I guess there's a tie if there's a rain delay and they gotta do it overbo. But there is no tie.
Jessalarius
I didn't know that. I didn't know you had to keep playing till somebody win.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah. And also last night in Monday Night Football, the Chiefs beat the commanders 28 7. What's up, Mimi?
Mimi Brown
Good morning, Envy. Josh Aldermane. How y' all doing? Good morning.
Abby Phillip
All right.
Mimi Brown
Well, we start this morning on day 28 of the government shutdown. And the Senate has now voted 12 times on a measure to reopen the government, each one failing. And currently there's no new vote scheduled. Now, the American Federation of Government Employees, that's the union that represents more than 820,000 federal workers, say it's time to pass a short term funding bill and get people back to work. Now, the union president says both parties have made their point, but federal workers should not be the ones paying the price. Now, federal employees, they missed their first full paycheck last week and many are now lining up at food banks to feed their families. And the union is calling that situation a national disgrace. Meanwhile, the impact is about to get much worse. The Agriculture Department says funding for SNAP benefits as the federal food assistance program will run out on Friday, leaving more more than 40 million Americans without help to buy food. Now, SNAP funding has never lapsed in modern history. Even during previous shutdowns, administration officials have the authority to use emergency funds to keep the program running. But so far the they refused to do it. Now, that decision is drawing major criticism from Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, who who accused the Trump administration of putting politics ahead of people. Let's listen to what he had to say.
Charlamagne Tha God
The administration's decision to let SNAP freeze is callous, is cynical and entirely unnecessary. Donald Trump says there knows there's no money to pay hungry kids workers. But he's spending 40 billion to bail out Argentina. 300 billion on his vanity ballroom, 172 million on two luxury jets for Kristi Noem, hundreds of millions for outfitting his.
DJ Envy
Foreign jet, but nothing, nothing, nothing to help hungry kids.
Mimi Brown
Yeah.
DJ Envy
I think the Democrats will cave soon because you know everybody's going to cave soon because the military about to miss another check. SNAP benefits about to be a wrap. But you know those flight delays and you know the air traffic controller shortages, when the airports really start effing up, that's when everybody Gonna be like, okay, let's get back to.
Charlamagne Tha God
Let's cave in and yes, sir, let's just get this done.
Jessalarius
But cave in and do what, though?
Charlamagne Tha God
Like, sign off on this bill.
Jessalarius
Sign off on a bill.
DJ Envy
They reopen the government.
Charlamagne Tha God
Reopening the government. Yeah.
Mimi Brown
And the federal union that represents both, you know, the workers, D.C. federal workers, and the federal workers, you know, in the United States, period, they are saying they don't care anymore, Just pass a bill. Both sides have made their point. They just want people back to work. Yep. And so President Trump, he is in Asia all week, so leaving little hope that something will happen this week. There is no vote planned for this week, as I said, so we will continue to watch that. As of right now, there is no clear end in sight.
DJ Envy
That's why I said it won't be a political win for either party, because at the end of the day, people don't care. Like, you know, people just want they check. Yeah. You know what I mean? People just want to get to where they going to on time when they're at the airport. Like, that's what they care about. So once all of this is over, nobody's gonna care who fault it was. They're just gonna be happy the government's back over.
Charlamagne Tha God
A lot of people don't even know what the reasoning that they haven't signed off on. Like, they just want their check. They just want their food.
Jessalarius
I'm sitting there, like, trying to figure out what the bill is that's so important that they're actually, like, bullying Democrats into signing, basically, because you stopping people from getting paid just so somebody can sign a bill. What is the bill for? Like, exactly what is it?
Abby Phillip
And people can't.
Mimi Brown
It's about healthcare, but people can't worry about healthcare if they can't put food on the table. So I think that's what. That's where the, you know, all of this is coming from. The fight is still. Is still going. And while Washington remains stuck, the Trump administration is moving forward on another plan, another front. Immigration. Homeland Security tells NBC News that White House they are planning to replace several ICE field directors with Border Patrol agents amid growing frustration over the pace of deportations. So right now, ICE averages just over 1100 arrests a day. That's well below the 3000 daily arrests reportedly pushed by the White House. And that's coming from advisor Stephen Miller. And that frustration has led to the administration to lean more heavily on Border Patrol, an agency known for their more aggressive enforcement style. Now, Border Patrol, they have drawn praise from Senior officials for tactics like helicopter deployments. We saw that in Chicago, using unmarked vehicles during arrest operations. And at least a dozen ICE field directors could be reassigned in the coming days. With roughly half of those roles accepted, expect it to go to border patrol leaders. But not everyone inside the agency agrees with the shift. Some ICE officials have raised concerns, saying that those border style tactics that I just mentioned, they are designed for open terrain, not dense cities. That could put both officers and civilians at risk. So the. Yeah, the immigration fight continues. We'll see how they decide to move forward with that.
DJ Envy
Yeah, they not playing. Don't even say ola and mixed company. Okay. You might get detained.
Charlamagne Tha God
All right.
DJ Envy
They're gonna start raiding Chipotle soon. All right. That's why Envy don't want to be Dominican no more.
Charlamagne Tha God
I never was Dominican. But, yeah, now they. They grabbing everybody, which is scary. I. I seen they had that. The one teenager in school, they took him, and he's been here, I think, since like two or three years old. And the reason they said that he can't go with his family is because he's been abandoned by his dad. He's been here, I think, since three in school. They took him out of his high school.
DJ Envy
You know, you out in la, Mimi, do you hear a lot of people complaining about getting, like, profiled and, like, pulled over and detained and.
Mimi Brown
Absolutely. They are targeting certain communities. So, you know, they're going especially to where they feel like the Hispanic community lives, where they worship even, you know, where they go to school, like, everything. I was doing a drive in Pasadena raising money and food for people in Altadena. They canceled it because there was an ICE raid, like, down the street. So they are really. Yes, they are definitely really coming for Everybody right now. 3,000 arrests daily is wild.
DJ Envy
I asked because I know they passed that. What was it, the Racial and Identity Profiling act or something like that? Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
All right, well, that's front page news. Thank you, Mimi.
Mimi Brown
Huh? Thank you.
Charlamagne Tha God
Everybody else, get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, phone lines are wide open. Again, 800-585-1051 is the breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club.
DJ Envy
It's a new day. This is your time to get it off your chest. Wait. Wake up. Whether you're mad or blessed, it's time to get up and get something. Call up now.
Charlamagne Tha God
800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club.
DJ Envy
Hello? Who's this?
Caller/Listener
Hello?
Charlamagne Tha God
Hey, what's up, brother? Get it off your chest. What's Your name?
Caller/Listener
Lenar McAlvin.
Abby Phillip
Yeah.
Caller/Listener
Yo, how come we all never shout out Tuskegee University when you shout out the HBCUs? You shout out every other HBCUs except for Tuskegee.
Abby Phillip
Man.
DJ Envy
That's your job.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, that's my job.
Caller/Listener
Hey, listen, I don't work on the radio every day. You shut out every single. You shout out. You shout out what's. What's. Lawrence.
Abby Phillip
Lonely.
Charlamagne Tha God
Hbcu, Delaware State.
DJ Envy
But you on the radio now. Shout them out. Shout out Tuskegee. Stop wasting your time worrying about everybody else.
Abby Phillip
Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
There's 107 HBCU colleges and university. There's no way I can shout them all out.
Jessalarius
Right?
Charlamagne Tha God
Salute to Tuskegee.
Caller/Listener
Hey, all right. Shout out Tuskegee. Your home, your homecoming is this week, November 1st. Hey, y' all turn up. Y' all be safe, all right?
DJ Envy
Yes, I. I shout out to the hbcu. I give money to South Carolina State University, my mother's alma mater.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah. I salute to all the ones that's. That's in this region that I. I actually go to and DJ and spend and talk to students, man.
Jessalarius
Maybe I should start shouting out Morgan and Bowie and Cap and then.
Charlamagne Tha God
Absolutely.
Jessalarius
I mean, I never went, but.
DJ Envy
Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, keep it.
DJ Envy
The Baltimore Community College.
Caller/Listener
I'm not.
Jessalarius
I never.
Charlamagne Tha God
You went to Baltimore Community?
DJ Envy
For a little bit.
Charlamagne Tha God
Where's your major?
Jessalarius
Mortuary science.
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, mortuary.
Lauren LaRosa
That's right.
Charlamagne Tha God
She said it's so tough. Mortuary science.
DJ Envy
They got a mascot?
Jessalarius
No, they don't.
DJ Envy
Ccbc? No.
Abby Phillip
Hello?
DJ Envy
Who's this?
Caller/Listener
Hello, this is James calling from North Carolina.
Charlamagne Tha God
Hey, what's up, James?
Caller/Listener
Hey, what's up, man? Another day, another struggle. But, y', all. I recently watched that movie Weapons.
DJ Envy
I heard about it.
Caller/Listener
I had a question. Yeah, it's good, man.
DJ Envy
It's good.
Caller/Listener
I had a question for Charlemagne, man. You being from Mars Corner and all, at first, I was gonna ask you if you clean shave your head on purpose, but the man that took my call said that you have a receding hairline.
DJ Envy
But first of all. First of all, I'm gonna fire them right now. Why would they share that information with you? For what? Wow.
Caller/Listener
Why?
DJ Envy
What the hell?
Caller/Listener
No, I. I just.
I told him that I was gonna ask you if you clean shaved your head on purpose. He just has a messed up hairline and.
DJ Envy
Wow.
Jessalarius
Damn.
DJ Envy
Damn.
Caller/Listener
I ain't trying to get bro in trouble, man. I'm just explaining.
DJ Envy
What was your question, sir?
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, you.
Caller/Listener
You do that. I was gonna ask you if you do that on purpose, can you shave your head so that nobody can get access to your.
DJ Envy
Yeah, I thank God that I'm bald headed. Even though in Taiwan they have some drops right now that can grow your head back. But I'm just not interested. I could have been went to Turkey or something and you know, got a headline I'm not interested in. I like being ball headed but he.
Charlamagne Tha God
Wants to cut it off because of receding headline.
Jessalarius
Or did you cut it off because you wanted to?
DJ Envy
Probably because of the receiving headline.
Abby Phillip
Yeah.
DJ Envy
I'm not. I mean, I'm not sure. I don't remember. It's been so long. I've been bald for a long time.
Jessalarius
Oh, yeah. Damn.
Caller/Listener
Being from US Corner, bro, you grew up around like geechy folk, right?
DJ Envy
Of course. I was born in Charleston. Absolutely.
Caller/Listener
I bet you you never ate your wife's spaghetti until you knew she was the one, huh?
DJ Envy
What are you talking about? By the way? That's the kind of small talk I like. If you gonna make small talk, make it interesting. You know what I'm saying? I bet you never hit your wife spaghetti. Like now I'm gonna call security on you just because. Just to watch this dude. But. But that's the type of small talk.
Charlamagne Tha God
How does he start with weapons, right? He goes, but they didn't even ask about weapons.
DJ Envy
I wanted to watch weapons, but my wife was like, she ain' to watch it, so we ain't watch it.
Jessalarius
Damn.
Charlamagne Tha God
People loved it. I just thought it was cool.
Jessalarius
Yeah, I thought it was cool too.
Charlamagne Tha God
Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need event, hit us up now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club.
DJ Envy
I'm D. I'm D. Hey, what you doing, man? I'm D. I'm calling you.
Charlamagne Tha God
This is your time to get it off your chest.
DJ Envy
Whether you're mad or blessed.
Charlamagne Tha God
800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Hello? Who's this?
Caller/Listener
Oh, man. Here y' all go with this. Hey, Envy. How y' all doing? Hey, everybody. God bless y'.
Abby Phillip
All.
Caller/Listener
Love y'. All. Good morning, everybody.
Jessalarius
Good morning.
Caller/Listener
Okay, first of all, ladies. Love y'.
Charlamagne Tha God
All.
Caller/Listener
Y' all do a good job. We love y' all out here in the deep, okay?
DJ Envy
I wanna.
Caller/Listener
I wanna make sure we say all that first.
Jessalarius
Thank you, baby.
Caller/Listener
It's not for y'.
Mimi Brown
All.
Caller/Listener
My cousins told me to tell. Just try to make it for the free exes. Charlie, man, your black ball head ass you Just put out a cousin on that goddamn dunk the other day. Yesterday. Everything ain't funny, man.
DJ Envy
What happened?
Caller/Listener
We love our kids down here. You ain't even had a backfire, man. Get that right before you be going on there. You do the. And everybody told me, brandy don't say nothing. Cause, you know, he. He talk about everybody. I don't give a man. Now you talking about people, family. We don't like that. Everything ain't funny. Especially when it comes to these kids, man. And a black man. I'm mad if he ever did it to a black man that. Really with his kids in a white environment that you don't even know about. Stop doing that, man.
DJ Envy
What happened?
Charlamagne Tha God
Who would he give donkey to? Yesterday?
DJ Envy
David Scott Jr. 43 years old. He allegedly said, told the teacher, I'm gonna air this bitch out. And so he got arrested.
Caller/Listener
And he did say that Marty pants.
DJ Envy
Well, I said during donkey of the day. I don't know if he said that or not. But what I said was he said clearly said something that led to his arrest. And then I gave other ways for him to possibly handle the situation. Like calmly request a meeting. Request a meeting with the teacher at a school administration.
Caller/Listener
I gotta stop you, bro.
DJ Envy
They did.
Caller/Listener
That's what I'm telling you. All those things. That's. You didn't even let the story play out the week. You know how the media is. Just like they did here when they went and interviewed the mother. They didn't play the whole clip or show the evidence that she had about how they went to the school, how they were talking to the principal. All I'm calling to tell you is.
DJ Envy
Man, I didn't see that on the clip. I watched the whole clip. I didn't see.
Caller/Listener
I know you didn't see it on the. Listen, I know you didn't because my. His brother called and checked the lady about that. That's what I'm telling you. If it was some like that, man. But nobody even said nothing. But let me tell you something. What we not gonna do is penalize and over the brothers. That's really out here. That man with his kids every day.
DJ Envy
Did you hear me? Did you hear me say I can understand the brother feeling the way he felt, but there's other ways to handle the situation.
Caller/Listener
Other ways to handle. Yeah, man, but I want y' all to know that. Listen, he got. He don't handle things like that. When they say that. That's like a different type of environment. Y' all got people. Places like that in New York.
DJ Envy
What you mean different type of environment? Like, tell me, what are you talking about? What do you mean?
Caller/Listener
Like, okay, so they stay in a place called East Point right over there. They don't really with the bread, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, Detroit is. That's not Detroit over there.
Charlamagne Tha God
So it's a white area. It's a white area. And the white area in the white area don't mess with the black people over there.
Caller/Listener
Yeah, not really. Not really. You know what I'm saying? If you move over there, listen, that's like anywhere you go, if you move on the block and it's just gentrified, you know what I'm saying? You gonna be neighbors and you gonna get along with people. But that area fell on survived over there all the time. He's been over there and ain't never had a problem or where he come from. See my cousin alone, man. He a good guy, bro. If it wasn't something else, I wouldn't have said nothing. Well, you see what I'm saying?
DJ Envy
Well, hold on.
Caller/Listener
He's a good dad, man.
DJ Envy
Hold on.
Caller/Listener
I'm not saying that he come from good stuff. He comes from a good family. He a good brother. Yes.
DJ Envy
Nobody said he. Nobody said he's not. All I simply said was there's other ways to handle the situation.
Caller/Listener
And we. And he tried, bro. I want you to say that like that, man.
DJ Envy
So he didn't say. He didn't say nothing bad to the teacher whatsoever.
Caller/Listener
We ain't gonna stay here, by the way.
DJ Envy
I want you to go back and listen to the donkey today. And I specifically said. I don't know whether he said Ed is beyond, but he says, arrested. Yes, ma'. Am.
Caller/Listener
Listen, let me say this to you, Charlie, man. I'm gonna tell you like I told everybody else.
DJ Envy
Yes, ma'.
Mimi Brown
Am.
Caller/Listener
Because they said, yeah, Charlamagne do this all the time. He talk about everybody. Let me say this. I don't listen to that because I know it's fun, it's entertainment. I'm gonna tell you like this. We are black, man. Our family love each other. We love our kids. We don't even play games like that. So anybody go look at anything down here on these Facebooks and all that, what everybody's saying about that. He ain't even like that.
DJ Envy
Yes, ma'.
Abby Phillip
Am.
Caller/Listener
There's some scary over there that took some and ran with it. But please don't ever put no image of our family's life out like that, bro. We don't do that. Yes, that's all I got to say. Love y'. All. Envy. You know we with you down here, Jess.
Lauren LaRosa
Hilarious.
Caller/Listener
We love you.
Jessalarius
I love you, too.
Caller/Listener
We love y'. All. Man, you gotta stop that, man.
DJ Envy
Yes, ma'.
Lauren LaRosa
Am.
DJ Envy
All right.
Charlamagne Tha God
Thank you, First Lady.
DJ Envy
Gotcha.
Charlamagne Tha God
Love y'.
Caller/Listener
All.
Jessalarius
Love you, too, man.
DJ Envy
Now, let the moral of the story show that. Let the moral of the story be that I understand everything that she's saying, but as I said, you can't go down to the school. Whether he said ed is be out or not, whatever he said caused them people to call the police and he got arrested. So there's other ways to handle the situation. Request a meeting with the teacher, the school administration, okay? Gather more information and see what their policy is in regards to this next.
Charlamagne Tha God
She said they did all that? That's what she said.
DJ Envy
Yeah, but she also said that she can't say that. He ain't say nothing. Okay? Come on.
Abby Phillip
That's our family.
Jessalarius
That's our cousin. She won't cry.
DJ Envy
I get it. I get it, okay? I get it.
Charlamagne Tha God
But thank you, First Lady. First Lady. If you need another cousin, I'll be your cousin. She woke up early in the morning this morning.
DJ Envy
That's great. That's what I mean. She right, though.
Charlamagne Tha God
I didn't say that.
DJ Envy
I just said that because, as I said yesterday, smart people learn from their own mistakes. Wise people learn from the mistakes of others. We got to learn from situations like David Scott Jr. And I'm sorry that that brother's in the situation that he's in, but we know that we just can't handle, you know, things in that way, especially being that he's a black man dealing with them white people that. She said that. Probably prejudiced. Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
All right, well, salute to the whole Detroit. What up, though? Out there? All right, get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. We got the latest one coming up. What we talking about?
Abby Phillip
We do.
Lauren LaRosa
We gonna talk about super bowl. Because y' all know how people keep saying bad Bunny's gonna break all these records, gonna be, like, the most. I believe it now, everybody.
DJ Envy
You didn't believe it before when I say you're a ridiculous human. I hate the fact that you gotta listen to the Internet. I hate the fact that the Internet.
Charlamagne Tha God
Has big, bad Bunny ears and all that stuff.
Lauren LaRosa
It's not even the Internet.
Charlamagne Tha God
Come on.
DJ Envy
Why do you believe it now?
Lauren LaRosa
Because even Jay Z has had to come out and defend his super bowl pick, and Jay Z don't defend nothing. He's standing on what he stand on? We gonna talk about it.
DJ Envy
What? This is crazy. This is actually sad, yo. Like, this is sad.
Charlamagne Tha God
Now I believe it.
Lauren LaRosa
I knew it was going to be a big watch. Super Bowl.
DJ Envy
There's two things. Hey, hey. I hate to say this in front of mixed company, but there's two things. Hate reading and accountability. Okay. A little bit of reading would have let her know that why Bad Bunny's gonna break through.
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, my goodness.
Lauren LaRosa
Puerto Rico. When the. When his puer.
DJ Envy
You got one Puerto Rican. Puerto Rican friend? I got one Puerto Rican friend. All right, ladies.
Charlamagne Tha God
The ladies are coming up to the Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.
Jessalarius
Lauren becoming a straight thing.
DJ Envy
She gets them from somebody that knows somebody. She gets the details.
Lauren LaRosa
I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit.
DJ Envy
She be having the latest on the Latest with Lauren LaRosa. Sometimes you have facts. Sometimes you have details. Sometimes she have a little bit of everything. Well, it's the latest on the Breakfast Club. Talk to me.
Lauren LaRosa
Jay Z was out in New York City yesterday, and TMZ ran into him. Shout out to Celia, the camera girl here in New York ran into Jay Z and had a brief conversation with him about the Super Bowl. Let's take a listen.
Abby Phillip
So we gotta talk Bad Bunny.
Jessalarius
Oh, my goodness.
DJ Envy
Not even Bad Bunny.
Lauren LaRosa
Why are people hating on us? Him.
Jessalarius
They love him. Don't. Don't let them fool you.
Abby Phillip
I love that.
DJ Envy
So we got to ask you, what are the Super bowl predictions?
Lauren LaRosa
Mr. Carter, do you have any?
Abby Phillip
So how did the combo go?
Lauren LaRosa
Like, was Bad Bunny, like, super surprised?
DJ Envy
I ain't got nothing for you. I don't want to disrespect you, sir.
Lauren LaRosa
You were nice last time.
Abby Phillip
I got.
DJ Envy
Yeah, yeah. I don't want to disrespect you, but I. I ain't got. I ain't got no scoops for you. I love you, though. Keep doing your thing, bro.
Lauren LaRosa
I appreciate you. I appreciate you, child.
DJ Envy
I'm about to say that didn't even sound right. Jay Z, stop for tmz.
Lauren LaRosa
I feel like the. The reason why he. Stop. Stopped. Stopped is because he saw Celine. She's a black girl. And he, you know, wants to make sure at least he isn't rude.
Charlamagne Tha God
He's very polite.
DJ Envy
Can I ask a question, though? Before the break, Lauren said that's what convinced her that Bad Bunny is gonna break the super bowl record. He didn't say nothing.
Lauren LaRosa
He normally says less than that. At least he said that like that is a thing. Jay Z don't talk to no tmz. I Just said it. Okay.
Charlamagne Tha God
He didn't say anything long.
Lauren LaRosa
He did. He said they're gonna love him. And you didn't had JLO defending Bad Bunny. You didn't Roger Goodell. All these people, the people, the politicians are upset. This is going to be a big.
Charlamagne Tha God
Thing, y', all because Jay Z said you're going to like him. That's makes you. You riding out all the way.
Jessalarius
Don't let them. Don't let them fool you.
DJ Envy
Let me ask a question.
Lauren LaRosa
I mean, I wasn't against Bad Bunny for the super bowl in the beginning.
DJ Envy
When they, when they announced Bad Bunny for the super bowl, you didn't think about his 30 day residency in Puerto Rico that an estimated 600,000 people came to see that bought $400 million to the local economy. You didn't think about him having the most watched single on Amazon ever. You didn't think about him having the most watched concert in Twitch history. It took Jay Z saying Nothing or.
Lauren LaRosa
The 75 increase in revenue. I knew all of that.
DJ Envy
We talked about make you say to.
Charlamagne Tha God
Make you believe a million monthly listeners.
DJ Envy
Bad Money is going to break whatever the super bowl record is for them. The most watched super bowl is actually the last three Super Bowls global.
Lauren LaRosa
And y' all know when I talk sometimes, like I say what I. I mean, but not all the way because all of the Super Bowls have been big under Jay Z and Roc Nation. Right. They've all made history. They're winning awards. All the things. I knew it was picking the right artist. Exactly. So I knew it was going to be big. It's Bad Bunny. But I feel like for Jay Z to even have to say they love him. Don't. Don't let them fool you. It's a thing. Because he didn't have to say that. He didn't want to say that. He said in the beginning, I don't got nothing for you. But he kept going. So there we have it. He has defended the super bowl and it, it is. He didn't decide.
Charlamagne Tha God
He just said, ma', am, I'm not.
DJ Envy
Gonna give you TMZ brain. That's our old tmz, you heard.
Abby Phillip
That's.
DJ Envy
That's her delirious. Right? It's actually sad. It's actually kind of sad. But she did hit her head as a child. She always remember that.
Jessalarius
And she could have died. So don't bring that up.
Lauren LaRosa
I've told him that multiple times.
Abby Phillip
All right.
Lauren LaRosa
Well, in other New York news.
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh my goodness.
Lauren LaRosa
What be going to other news.
Jessalarius
In other news, he said Leave his city alone.
Lauren LaRosa
So there is a actual date now for Diddy's expected release if he doesn't get the appeal. And I mean, I guess this is a story just because people are seeing the date, but if you calculated the time that we knew he got when he was sentenced, it would have took you here, but yeah. So the date is May 8, 2028. It's officially listed on the Bureau of Prison's website. It's a long time from now, but we know that Diddy on ebay, every.
Charlamagne Tha God
Fine has a story. Like if you're looking for a vintage band tee. Not just a tee, the band tee from the last show your favorite band ever played. You wore it everywhere. Then your girlfriend started wearing it, which was cool until she dumped you and took it with her, which was not so cool. Anyway, now you're on ebay. And there it is. Same tea from the same tour. Still living in your memory rent free forever. See, the things you love have a way of finding their way back to you. But ebay isn't just for getting what your ex stole back. It's also for that rare championship foul ball you caught, then heroically gave it to the kid next to you. And where else are you going to find your first car? The one you wish you never sold, but now finally get the chance to take back home for good this time. You know, I'm a collector of cars and sometimes I'm looking for the right rim that I had when I was a kid. Yeah, it might have been 20 years ago, but I want that same feeling. And the only way I can find it is on ebay. Shop ebay for millions of fines, each with a story. Ebay Things people love.
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Abby Phillip
All I know is what I've been told and that to have truth is a whole lie.
Mimi Brown
For almost a decade, the murder of an 18 year old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved until a local homemaker, a journalist and a handful of girls came forward with a story.
DJ Envy
I'm telling you, we know Quincy killed her.
Mimi Brown
We know a story that law enforcement used to convict six people and that got the citizen investigator on national tv.
DJ Envy
Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky housewife helped give justice to Jessica Curran.
Mimi Brown
My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist producer and I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find.
DJ Envy
I did not know her and I did not kill her or rape or burn or any of that other stuff that y' all said.
Jessalarius
They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her.
DJ Envy
They made me say that I poured.
Jessalarius
Gas on her.
Mimi Brown
From Lava For Good. This is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame.
DJ Envy
America, y' all better wake the hell up. Bad things happens to good people and small towns.
Mimi Brown
Listen to Graves county in the Bone Valley feed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and to binge the entire season ad free. Subscribe to Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcast. I'm Hunter, host of Hunting for Answers on the Black Effect Podcast Network. Join me every weekday as I share.
Abby Phillip
Bite sized stories of missing and murdered.
Mimi Brown
Black women and girls in America. There are several ways we can all do better at protecting Black women. My contribution is shining a light on our missing sisters and amplifying their disregarded stories. Stories like Tameka Anderson. As she drove toward Galvez, she was.
Abby Phillip
In contact with several people talking on the phone as she made her way to what should have been a routine transaction.
Mimi Brown
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Abby Phillip
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Lauren LaRosa
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Mimi Brown
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Abby Phillip
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Lauren LaRosa
It's a long time. Diddy is looking to appeal. I checked in on the appeal yesterday. They say, you know, they still have a few more weeks so they're you Know, figuring that out. And in the meantime, he's still waiting to be placed where he's going to be placed in all those things. Like, that's a long time from now, though, rounds so far.
Charlamagne Tha God
Does that calculate good behavior and all that other stuff? It doesn't, right? No, because he. Because he gets time for good behavior, he gets time for different programs, right?
Lauren LaRosa
Well, it depends. First of all, we don't even know if he's going to serve all that time if the. If the. The pill doesn't go through. But, yeah, so you will have to calculate all that.
Abby Phillip
They.
Lauren LaRosa
What they do is on these. The websites. Like, they did it with Pooh Shiesty. Remember I said he was released, but there was a 2026 date that was listed. They. Whatever your sentence is that you're given, they. That's the date that they'll list. And then whatever happens from, that happens from. So this is just a thing.
Charlamagne Tha God
So if he has to serve the time, he'll get out probably a lot earlier than that.
Lauren LaRosa
But this is just a thing because it's Diddy and it's the sentencing and.
Abby Phillip
The date is far.
Lauren LaRosa
Like, 2028 is a long time from now to think about somebody as rich and famous as Diddy was sitting somewhere behind bars.
DJ Envy
Yeah. That's why I hate when people say things like, it's a short bid. Ain't no such thing as a short bid. I mean, don't get me wrong. Yes, there's, you know, there's a difference between 20 years and three years, but a day in prison is a day in prison.
Lauren LaRosa
Especially when you were living the way and anybody. But especially if you were living the way that Diddy was living.
DJ Envy
I. I don't.
Lauren LaRosa
Y'.
Abby Phillip
All.
Lauren LaRosa
I told y' all this before. I realized in court, after seeing, like, the pictures of the houses and all the things, I knew that he was rich and he was a huge celebrity.
Charlamagne Tha God
He's still rich. Don't you say was. He still got money.
Lauren LaRosa
Okay. But he can't utilize any of it right now.
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay.
Lauren LaRosa
But I'm saying I didn't realize how wealthy he was living and how, like, with his life really entailed on the inside, because you only see what he shows you. So I knew it was big, but to see it and hear about all the different staffs at each house and.
DJ Envy
Do numbers mean anything? Yeah. Like, when you see. Like, when you see, like, go, somebody's worth, like, a couple billion dollars, does.
Jessalarius
That mean anything that you was working at parties before?
Lauren LaRosa
But yeah, you. No, you see it like if you're at the house, you see the party, you see the house. But when you're in court and they're going through, like how much everybody was getting paid the different houses.
Abby Phillip
It's different when you see it up.
Jessalarius
Close.
Charlamagne Tha God
To $50 million.
DJ Envy
Like 36 million.
Charlamagne Tha God
He has crazy take care of families.
Lauren LaRosa
What are you talk in court, like, dang, that's a lot to throw.
DJ Envy
I'm pouring out that liquor at your desk. I'm sick of this. That big ass bottle of ca. I'm about to go pour it out. I can't take no more.
Charlamagne Tha God
You keep saying I, I have a helmet. But she needs to put her helmet back on.
DJ Envy
I don't know if it's a wig.
Charlamagne Tha God
Helmet or what it is.
Lauren LaRosa
Y' all know exactly what I mean.
DJ Envy
No, we don't.
Charlamagne Tha God
We don't.
DJ Envy
No, we really don't.
Lauren LaRosa
Well, all right, I'll keep y' all updated on.
Charlamagne Tha God
I didn't know Diddy was that rich.
Lauren LaRosa
No, I knew he was that rich. It's just to see it up close in person.
Charlamagne Tha God
I didn't know Bad Bunny was that big.
DJ Envy
Cr is crazy. I'm gonna be honest with you.
Lauren LaRosa
I know y' all was this non supportive, critical. That's it. That's all I got for this hour.
Jessalarius
Oh, Happy birthday to a real Caitlyn.
Abby Phillip
Jenna.
Jessalarius
It's the birthday. And also Frank Ocean.
DJ Envy
She's not an N word.
Jessalarius
No, no, no. Frank Ocean is the real. But I, I looked down and saw.
DJ Envy
Oh, okay.
Jessalarius
Caitlyn Jenner. So happy birthday, Caitlyn Jenner and Frank Ocean.
Charlamagne Tha God
All right.
DJ Envy
Born date of Caitlyn.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes, yes. All right, now when we come back, we have front page news. And then CNN anchor and host of News Night with Philip will be.
DJ Envy
Got a new book, A Dream Deferred, Jesse Jackson and the Fight for Black Political Power. She'll be here to talk to us about it.
Charlamagne Tha God
So don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlamagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get back in some front page news. Now. Last night, Major League baseball, the Dodgers won 6, 5. The game was seven hours long. It was 18 and 19 innings. 18 innings.
DJ Envy
Innings too long.
Charlamagne Tha God
18 innings. When I got on my plane, it was on. When I got off the plate, it was on. And then when I got home, it was still on. I went to sleep and I was like, this is just stupid.
DJ Envy
That's why they should let baseball players take steroids because they'll Hit more home runs, and these games won't last so long.
Jessalarius
But that's illegal. Like, it can't be fun, though. It's fun.
DJ Envy
It is to watch.
Mimi Brown
Yes.
Charlamagne Tha God
Also, in Monday Night Football, the Chiefs beat the commanders 28 to 7. What's up, Mimi?
Mimi Brown
Good morning, M.B. josh, Charlamagne. How y' all doing?
Abby Phillip
Hey, girl.
Mimi Brown
Good morning.
Abby Phillip
All right.
Mimi Brown
Well, we start this hour in the Caribbean where Hurricane Melissa has exploded into a monster storm overnight. Melissa rapidly intensified into a Category 5 hurricane with winds reaching 175 mph, making it the strongest storm on the planet this year. Now Jamaica is bracing for what could be its worst hurricane in recorded history. The storm's outer bands are already pounding the island with heavy rain and fierce wind. And conditions are only expected to get worse Now. Officials have ordered mandatory evacuations for coastal areas, warning that catastrophic flooding, landslides, and storm surges up to 13ft could make some communities impossible to reach. Now, landfall is expected within the next few hours. And for many families here in the US with loved ones in Jamaica, this is an incredibly tense moment. Entire neighborhoods are without power. Communication is already spotty in some areas. And officials warned that flooding and landslides could make certain communities impossible to reach in the coming days. And for families trying to prepare, time is quickly running out. A family from Long island who owns a resort in Jamaica, they said that they're doing everything they can to get ready, boarding up, stockpiling supplies, bracing for impact. But like so many others, they're unsure of what comes next. Let's listen.
Caller/Listener
Once landfall is made, everybody is going.
DJ Envy
To stay exactly where they are.
Caller/Listener
I'm expecting this to be an extremely violent experience. I am scared.
DJ Envy
I'm scared for Jamaica. You know, I don't know what this is going to turn out to be.
Mimi Brown
Yeah. And so at least seven people have been killed across the region. Three in Jamaica, three in Haiti, and one in the Dominican Republic. Melissa will continue moving north today, bringing dangerous winds and flooding rains to Cuba and then to the Bahamas next. And while there's no direct threat to the U.S. the images and stories coming out of Jamaica this morning are heartbreaking. And officials say recovery there could take months, even possibly years.
Jessalarius
So that's.
Charlamagne Tha God
So when are they saying that the eye of the storm is supposed to be hit in Jamaica? Do we know what time or.
Mimi Brown
Well, it keeps changing because I read this. I read it said between 6am and 7am Eastern Standard Time, but I looked and it hasn't made contact yet. MB so that's why I said within the next few Hours, it said early this morning to late this afternoon, Tuesday afternoon, it should be making landfall in Jamaica.
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, yeah, I'm looking at it now. It says. Yeah, May Penn, it said between 6 and 7. Montego Bay between 8 and 9. Kingston between 9 and 11. Spanish Town between 9 and 11. And then they said it goes to Cuba.
DJ Envy
So, I mean, the only thing you can do at this point is, you know, pray. Right? That's it. You know, hope that you make it out alive and then get ready for recovery.
Jessalarius
Yeah, man.
Charlamagne Tha God
And I just want to say to. To everybody out there, I mean, I love it, but stop. Like, I love the updates when they go outside, because I'm interested in it, because I want to see. But stop. Because when that. When it hits, there is no oops. There is no. Can I take it back? This. You just be safe, man.
DJ Envy
Recovery happens. Everybody that loves Jamaica and loves to go to Jamaica for tourism and, you know, loves Jamaican culture and the food and the music and the women, y' all better dig in your pockets.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
DJ Envy
And donate a couple of dollars.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yep.
DJ Envy
Because they're gonna need it.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes, sir.
Mimi Brown
Yeah, for sure.
Abby Phillip
All right.
Mimi Brown
Well, meanwhile, Wells Fargo has agreed to pay $85 million to settle a class action lawsuit over claims the bank held fake job interviews to meet diversity goals. Now, the lawsuit alleges that Wells Fargo interviewed women and people of color for jobs that had already been filled, creating the appearance of a fair hiring process that actually was not happening. Now, former employees say they were instructed to interview diverse candidates for roles that were already decided. Some said that when they raised concerns internally, those practices continued. These claims, they date from February 2021 to June of 2022. They were consolidated into a class action suit filed by SEB Investment Management on behalf of shareholders who said Wells Fargo misled investors about its hiring practices. Now, Wells Fargo, they are denying any wrongdoing, saying it settled the case to avoid the cost and distraction of a lengthy court battle. The settlement still needs to be approved, but if finalized, shareholders who owned Wells Fargo stock between February of 2021 and June of 2022 could receive compensation after fees and expenses are deducted. So, yeah, that is a. That's a story to. To keep watching. Also, from financial scandals to fall flavors, let's talk about something just a little bit lighter. So it is October, which means it is officially pumpkin spice everywhere season, right?
Jessalarius
Oh, my God.
DJ Envy
White people. Sweet potato pie. Yes.
Lauren LaRosa
I do not like.
Mimi Brown
Yes. So from lattes to candles to grocery store shelves, it is everywhere. But not everyone's on board. So a new 2025 study found that pumpkin spice fatigue is setting in about more than two decades. It's been more than two decades of pumpkin spice mania. So about half of Americans say that they have just had enough, while the other half are still embracing it. Younger consumers, they are keeping the trend alive. So Gen Z and Millennials, they continue to buy pumpkin spice everything from cream cheese to cereal to lotion, you know, protein powder, even dog treats. While boomers, they are moving on, choosing more traditional flavors over pumpkin spice. And for companies, though, that divide hasn't slowed business. The y' all pumpkin spice market is an $800 million a year business.
Charlamagne Tha God
Wow.
Mimi Brown
With new price. Yep.
DJ Envy
Why people don't do that with sweet potatoes, though? Like, I've always wondered that. Where does sweet potato latte. Hey, you know what I'm saying? Like, where's the sweet potato spice smell?
Charlamagne Tha God
Like you want to go? You want to laugh? In China, they have sweet potato lattes.
DJ Envy
Really?
Charlamagne Tha God
And Starbucks.
Mimi Brown
Really?
DJ Envy
Yeah.
Jessalarius
Nice.
Mimi Brown
Well, that is it, y'.
Abby Phillip
All.
Mimi Brown
But so they were saying that when you. When you hear pumpkin spice, it now marks the unofficial start of fall. And so a lot of people are saying they are over it. They don't want it anymore. But clearly it is an $800 million business, so it is here to stay.
DJ Envy
I'm gonna be honest with you. A lot of those folks just don't like white people. People. So anything that make. I'm serious. Anything that make white people happy, they just like, I'm over it. I don't hear nothing about no spice at a time like this.
Jessalarius
Right?
DJ Envy
I mean, that's all this is. I'm telling you, that's all it is. You get rid of Di. We want to get rid of pumpkin spice.
Mimi Brown
Yeah, that's true. That's very true, Charlemagne.
DJ Envy
That's all this is.
Mimi Brown
All right, y'.
Abby Phillip
All.
Mimi Brown
Well, that is your front page news. I'm Mimi Brown. Follow me at Mimi Brown tv. For more stories, follow the Black Information Network, download the free I Heart radio app app and visit bin news.com.
Charlamagne Tha God
Thank you, Mimi.
Lauren LaRosa
Thanks, Mimi.
Mimi Brown
Thank you.
Charlamagne Tha God
All right, now, when we come back, we have CNN anchor and host of News Night with Abby Phillip. Abby Phillip joining us. So don't go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Lauren Rose is here as well, and we have a special guest in the building and CNN anchor, senior political correspondent, and host of Newsnight with Abby Phillip. Ladies and gentlemen, Abby Phillip.
DJ Envy
How are you?
Abby Phillip
I'm good, I'm good. I'm hanging in there.
DJ Envy
New book out, A Dream Deferred, Jesse Jackson and the Fight for Black Political Power. I'm from South Carolina, so I completely understand Jesse Jackson and, you know, why he deserves all the praise. But why did you decide to write this book?
Abby Phillip
I think that there are a lot of people who have no idea that he ran for president honestly. And they don't. And if they know that he ran for president, they probably don't have any idea that he came second in the Democratic nomination in 1988. So he was the runner up. And before Obama, there was Jesse Jackson. And I think this chapter really is more important now than ever. Back in the 80s, I think. I think people didn't have any way to know that what Jesse Jackson did really mattered in the long term. But it clearly mattered because had he not run, Obama wouldn't have been the nominee. Had he not run, I don't know that you would have like a Bernie Sanders or an AOC or even a Zoran Mamdani. I mean, these are people who are running on basically the same platform that Jesse Jackson ran on. And he really transformed Democratic politics. Not to mention registering millions of voters and putting in place a lot of the people that you know, people like Donna Brazile, Mignon Moore and so many others who are leaders in the Democratic Party, they are all there because of Jesse Jackson.
Lauren LaRosa
In the back of your book, the praises.
Abby Phillip
Yeah.
Lauren LaRosa
You say, like the first one talks about how he doesn't tell. Jesse Jackson doesn't get credit for how influential in American politics as he was. What credit do you want people to give him after they read your book?
Abby Phillip
Yeah, I mean, I think that he transformed the structure of the Democratic Party that made it easier for outsiders to come in and disrupt the system. I think that's really what his original goal was when he was running for president. He was basically saying to the Democratic Party, you have to take us seriously as black voters. And not just black voters, but all kinds of other voters. He brought Arab Americans into the voting process. He insisted on women being on the ticket. That's why Democrats had a woman on the ticket in 1984. He insisted on Asian Americans being part of the political process. So what he was arguing for was a political system that actually takes everybody seriously. And I do think we're closer to that now than we were in the 80s. And he described deserves a lot of credit for that. But I also think, you know, it's. This is not about any kind of judgment about what you know or don't know about this particular chapter of history. But it's, it's important to know that Jesse Jackson, like so many other of these leaders in our history, they had a lot of chapters and this was a really significant chapter. I mean, he ran for president two times. He almost won the nomination. He, during one of these campaigns, he went to Syria and Cuba and brought prisoners of war back to the United States. I mean, he was doing a lot of things that if candidates were doing that today, we would be like, what? Is that real? But he doesn't get a lot of credit for it. And I think a lot of it is because it was the first time that so many Americans had ever seen a black man try to do what he did. And I think it's important to remember how much of a, A, you know, just a barrier breaker he was at that time.
DJ Envy
What was the single biggest myth or misconception you discovered in your reporting about either of those campaigns that you wanted to correct?
Abby Phillip
That he was only running as a black candidate for black voters? I think that's the biggest misconception. He was obviously very interested, motivated by the desire to make sure that black people utilized their power, not just cast a ballot, but had leverage to get changes on the platform, policy, things that mattered to their day to day lives. But he was also in Missouri with white farmers. He was also in San Francisco with Asian American activists. He had, that's why he called it the rainbow coalition. I think people remember him as being the candidate for black people, but he actually brought, as he said he would, a rainbow of people into the political process. And he does not get very much credit for how much appeal he had among white voters, especially when he ran the second time around. There's this great picture I have in the book of him at a rally with a bunch of white farmers in like their overalls and they all have paper bags on their heads with their eyes cut off because they're trying to hide their faces from the feds who were trying to basically foreclose on their farms. And there's Jesse Jackson in the background with all of these white people rallying alongside them. And that's, for me, an iconic photo that kind of shows that he had the same energy for our community as he did for all of those other people. And he was arguing to them, look, look, we have. They're the people who are trying to divide us along racial lines, are trying to make you think that you don't have as much in common as a Working class black person, and that's a lie. And then a lot of people diminish that part of his campaign because it's easier to sort of just put him in a box of, oh, he was just a black candidate for black people.
DJ Envy
I wonder where he fell short, because, you know, you talk about a lot in the book about the unlikely coalition he put together. Yeah, it seemed unlikely back then, but now it's like the norm.
Abby Phillip
Right, Exactly.
DJ Envy
What President Obama did or what BP tried to do. I mean, all candidates try to do it. Where did he fall short back then, you think?
Abby Phillip
There were a lot of things that happened. I think some of them were his own mistakes, and I write about those in the book. I mean, he had a very big controversy.
DJ Envy
The Jewish slur.
Abby Phillip
Yeah, he used a slur against Jews in private. And then it became public, and he had a hard time figuring out how to deal with it and was slow in addressing it. And that really dogged him for. Especially for the 1984 campaign. But it had an impact on 88 too. I think the other part of it was that he was a true outsider candidate. He had almost no establishment support. You know, he was like what Bernie Sanders was in 19, in 2016, where nobody wanted to touch him among establishment Democrats. And so it was harder for him to build a real campaign that had the infrastructure that he needed to take advantage of the momentum when he did encounter momentum. But I would say the other thing is that he was completely discounted as a candidate. I mean, I went back and I read virtually everything that was written about Jesse Jackson in those two campaigns. And the way they talked about him as if he was a gadfly candidate, as if, you know, they really did not take him seriously in the media. And back in that time, there was no way to bypass pass the mainstream media. And I do think a lot of times, if he were running today, I mean, he was such a master of the press of narrative, of really breaking through, but there was no Internet. And if he had had that, I think it would have been a different story because so much of his message just never got to people.
DJ Envy
One of the few black women on cable news with their own show, especially you, because, you know, you have your own rainbow, cool audition that you bring together every night.
Abby Phillip
Okay, that's one way of putting it.
DJ Envy
With all of these different voices, do you feel like you get a lot of that, a lot of criticism?
Abby Phillip
Look, I don't want people to misunderstand this. I am not at all saying that I am at the caliber of people like Jesse or anybody else who's really putting their body on the line to make the world a better place.
DJ Envy
However, what you do is important.
Abby Phillip
But I play a role. Like we all have a role. And this is my. And I. And, and in a way, yeah, people are very easy to be like, well, she shouldn't give this person a platform, she shouldn't do this, she shouldn't do that. And I do think it's super easy to say that when you're just at home like watching the clips on your phone and this. I've been covering politics a long time. This is a time in our, like, political life where we have to really know what's going on and we have to know what everybody is saying on all sides of the issue. Because I don't think that ignorance has served anybody well. And particularly I get a lot of criticism from the left, from people who are like, why does she have MAGA people on the show? And it's like, well, you should know what they're saying.
DJ Envy
Yeah, agree.
Abby Phillip
Because just so you know, half the country voted for Trump and for Trumpism and it's not helpful to be completely unaware of what is happening in those media ecosystems. So I personally think it's super important and I, I want the debate, like we need to have that debate. I want it to be right there out in the open. And I also think that it's important for people on both sides to practice being challenged. Because what we found on the show is that a lot of people are not used to being challenged. And when they, when they have somebody literally staring them in the face saying, I disagree with you, for some people, they, they're like really taken aback. Like they don't really know how to deal with that, how to counter it, how to be quick, how to respond. And I think that is a really important skill in our politics that we can go back and forth on the issues and we can really hash it out. And I, you know, I'll take the criticism from all sides, but I am very proud of what we do because I think that very few people are willing to do it. Very few people are willing to take the chance of even being criticized. And I don't mind it, like that's part of the job.
Lauren LaRosa
What about. Because I know with your show there's some moments that are like very hard hitting, right?
Mimi Brown
Yeah.
Lauren LaRosa
What about when that becomes like too much for you? Because I've seen people step away from those debate style shows because it personally becomes too much and it's triggering for Them, especially for black women. How do you kind of. Because you get back up and do it again the next day. Like, what is your.
Abby Phillip
That's my responsibility. I unfortunately can't step away, but I understand when people do. And I actually think that is totally good and healthy. I think it's important to know your, your limits. And, and you know what? The good news about me not being able to step away is that it's my show and I can draw the lines when I need to draw the lines. And, and if you watch, as I know you, I know you do every night, like you've seen the times when I've had to draw some lines at the table. And I don't do it that often because I, I want it to be not, not that common because when I do, it's like when your mom, you know, really tells you it's time to stop. That's kind of how I want it to be. Where it's not like that happens all the time. But you know that when I've reached my limit, it's the end. That's the limit. And I think that's, that I can, because I'm the host, I can draw those lines around the kind of conduct that I will accept at the table.
Jessalarius
Yeah.
Abby Phillip
And I have control over who shows up and who doesn't. And so for me, I, I take that on the, the weight of having to show up every single day. But I don't discount any person saying, I need to take a break. It's. I need a, I need a moment. Because I think that's actually healthy for all of us, that we, we should take care of ourselves and our own well being, even while we try to stay engaged. And I fully, I fully support that. And, and I, and I also will say, Lauren, that I think there are definitely people who cross the line and that's part of the dynamic that is not within our control. And I was an example. And that's okay.
DJ Envy
I mean, I think I know one.
Abby Phillip
Well, look, I mean, the, the more the mo. Maybe the most famous one was the Julian Michaels. You cannot tie imperialism and racism and slavery to just one race, which is pretty much what every single exhibit does. But why is this in the Smithsonian? So it's, look, it's, it's been completely captured. First of all, I don't, and it's totally.
Jessalarius
We don't.
Abby Phillip
First of all, we don't have time to litigate.
Caller/Listener
Of course we don't, because then you're.
Abby Phillip
Going to the argument. And if everything is racialized Just like.
Caller/Listener
You'Re trying to do to me now.
Abby Phillip
You brought up slavery and you brought up whether you did. You brought up the question of whether or not slavery in the United States is about race. The answer is no idea.
DJ Envy
Yes.
Abby Phillip
Because that's not what I said. So what are you brought up?
Mimi Brown
Slavery.
Abby Phillip
Well, yeah, there was Jillian Michaels, but I, you know, I, you know, I'll say. I honestly, Jillian Michaels crossed the line in the sense that she said something that was kind of embarrassing and we addressed it, but we never said to her, you're not welcome back.
DJ Envy
Yeah, and I don't, I don't think she crossed the line either. I just think she just wasn't informed.
Abby Phillip
Yeah, that was, that's her. She made a decision not to want to come back. But yeah, she. The thing about that was that she actually was talking about something that was important for us for people to be aware of was actually happening. Because right after she said what she said about slavery and how it's overemphasized at museums and then the Smithsonian, guess who said the same thing? The President. So if you had watched our show a couple of days before, you would have known what was coming. And it's not just that she said it, but the President said it, and then it. It actually became the policy that they're trying to implement at the White House. So I thought it was actually super important that that was put out there because I think people were not aware of the extent to which slavery was the core thing that they were mad about in terms of how it was being represented in our museums. So she. Again, I think you're right. Like, I don't think that we. I just would describe that as crossing the line, but we addressed it as an important conversation that needed to be factually addressed. But there was another incident with a person who was on the show who said to another guest that a Muslim guest that their pager would go off to Mehdi. It was a reference to the Israeli. They'd like put bomb materials in pagers of the Houthi terrorists and they went off. Off.
DJ Envy
If you don't want to be called Nazis, stop doing more than table and people will sit there. No by me.
Charlamagne Tha God
I never called you an semi.
DJ Envy
I mean, I'm not sitting here saying I'm a supporter of the Palestinians. I'm used to it. Yeah, well, I hope your beeper doesn't go off. The thing is, is that you just say I should die.
Lauren LaRosa
You should not.
DJ Envy
No, you just said I should be killed. No, I did not say that.
Abby Phillip
That was an actual line that was crossed because you wishing death, death on a guest on the show is completely unacceptable. And he was told, and I said publicly on the show, he was not invited back. And so there are lines that are crossed, and I think people understand that. I'll draw them when they need to be drawn, but I also think that we want to have real conversations. Sometimes they get a little bit messy and that's okay. But I also think, think, you know, disrespecting people in a way that is inhumane or, you know, just there are some lines that we don't want to cross. And we'll draw those lines publicly and I'll let everybody know what's going on. But for the most part, we're not. We're trying to encourage speech, not trying to squelch it.
Lauren LaRosa
If Jesse Jackson Wright was able to actually become president, president, get in office, just do things for people that he cared about, how would Barack Obama's presidency have been different? Kamala Harris just on this run, feeling like she has to dodge certain things and can't speak straight to black people. How would all of that be different if he had been able to get in office and do what he was doing before he was voted president or not voted president?
Abby Phillip
That's really interesting. It's such an interesting question. I mean, I think one of the reasons that Vice President Harris and Barack Obama have had to present a certain way to the American public is the perception that, that a broad swath of the electorate, especially white voters, won't take a black candidate seriously unless they are very buttoned up, have the resume all lined up, the whole thing. And that's accurate, right? That like we, we all understand that you kind of have to clear a higher bar in order to even be let in the door. And I do wonder if the, if the country had successfully elected a black president who was running on a progressive platform 30 years ago, whether they would have that same burden. And I don't know, maybe they would not have. You know, one of the things about Jesse Jackson is that his fluency in a wide range of issues, as somebody who never was elected to political office, who, who came out of the segregated south, who came out of a civil rights tradition. He was right up there with all the other candidates on the debate stage, talking about foreign policy, talking about economic policy, giving speeches. I mean, I would talk to people who would say that they would give him, you know, like a 30 minute briefing and he would go in there and he would weave a whole speech around an issue, he could take information in and very quickly turn it around into something that was compelling to an audience. And so he had a kind of intellect that was not very respected at the time. And I do think that, you know, if. If the country had elected a black president, I think candidates today who are running, who are like Kamala Harris or Barack Obama would not have to. Would not have to do so much, much to show white Americans in particular, that they're qualified and that they have the basic, you know, qualifications to. To fit the job. I think that added burden is one of the reasons that it's hard then to turn around and say to those same candidates, well, you've got to be authentic, because that same authenticity is what they get knocked for early on in their career. So it is. I'm not suggesting that it's easy. I think it is difficult. You have to be able to do both things. And actually, I would say Obama actually did both things pretty well. He had. He was incredibly credentialed, but he was incredibly authentic in the communities where he needed to be authentic in. And I do think that it is possible to do it, but it is absolutely a higher bar, and it's a higher bar still to this day, because we've only done it once. Once elected a black person to the highest office in the. In the land. And so there's still a lot that has to be dealt with in terms of people's preconceived notions of what people of color can do at high levels of political office.
DJ Envy
My last question. When. When Cameron took a sip of pink horsepower on your show, like, you just took a sip of that, right.
Abby Phillip
I knew you were gonna bring this.
DJ Envy
And then when Cam said he was gonna get some cheeks after your interview. Interview. Did you understand what was happening in that moment?
Abby Phillip
Is there something known in the industry about how Diddy treated his artists?
Charlamagne Tha God
Sorry. I'm going to get some cheeks after this horsepower joint.
Abby Phillip
I knew that we needed to end the interview. Obviously, I knew we needed to end the interview. We were up against the end of the show, and we didn't. We had to get to a certain time. So, you know, I had to land that plane, and. And I did. And look, I mean, it was ridiculous, but as we know, that was the point.
DJ Envy
So did the person who had to transcribe the show afterwards ask you what that means? What do you mean he had to get some.
Abby Phillip
Well, we all were just like, what just happened? Yeah, you know, I mean, whatever. It's. I'm not gonna give this much more Oxygen. Because I know that's part of the point. I know he was here a little while ago talking about it.
DJ Envy
He said he stole out after he did.
Abby Phillip
I'm sure he did.
Lauren LaRosa
And he said before, it wasn't like, it wasn't personally anything with you. He just felt like the network only hits him up for things that aren't about what he does outside of.
Abby Phillip
All I will say is that we were told by his team that he wanted to talk about this, not the other way around. So that's. We, obviously, we don't book people about things they don't want to talk about. So we would never bring someone on the show and force them to talk about something that they didn't agree to talk about. So, I don't know. I mean, everybody. We have free will. We can do what we want. But like I said, I knew immediately. Actually, we. We knew pretty early on in the interview that we needed to get out.
Jessalarius
As early as possible.
Charlamagne Tha God
It was.
Abby Phillip
I mean, it was from the. From the get go.
Jessalarius
You could read the room.
DJ Envy
You can. Yeah.
Abby Phillip
I'm not new to this. Like, I know from the beginning when somebody is not interested in being in being interviewed. And so we knew we needed to get out, but it was just a timing thing, you know, when you're at the end of the show. And he was actually supposed to be on the show earlier but was late. And so we. We were just figuring out how quickly we could hand off to Laura Coates at 11 o'.
DJ Envy
Clock. That puts you in a good class, though. Cam's got some really good interviews with news anchors from Anderson Cooper, Bill O'Reilly. Now Abby, Phillip. He got some great moments.
Lauren LaRosa
No dipset on the playlist no more, huh?
Abby Phillip
Absolutely. Absolutely not. We are not. That is not a class of.
DJ Envy
And I think he said.
Abby Phillip
He said, I want to be.
DJ Envy
He said Abby's was his favorite. I. Abby, asked him, which one was it? The Anderson Cooper 60 Minute Snitching Interview. The Bill O'Reilly when he was like, you mad? You mad? Oh, Abby film. He said yes because he sold out of Pink Horsepower.
Abby Phillip
I'm. I'm happy for. I'm happy for him. But, you know, do you take stuff.
Lauren LaRosa
Like that personally when it happens?
Abby Phillip
No, Abs. Absolutely not.
Lauren LaRosa
Not personally, but just like, why you? Why my show? I'm a black woman. I'm here on cnn. Like, why me?
Abby Phillip
No, I. You know what? Let me just. I'll just say this because I. I don't. I've never talked. I've actually never talked about this before. But when that happened, our booker who booked that interview was a young woman and she was very upset about it. And I said to her afterwards, and I said to my entire team, I was like, this is not going to be a reason that we play a trust safe. We are not going to take this as a moment to say, oh, this happened to us. We can't have people like that on our air again. I, I don't believe in that. I think that we are, we are out here trying to, to hear from people who are interesting and different and maybe sometimes it goes left. But I'm not gonna, this is, we're not going to come down on you for booking this interview because, because we want to bring interesting people onto the show. And it was important to me to convey to them that we're not gonna go into a little ball and be like, oh, my God, this went viral and this was embarrassing. No, this too shall pass. Like, he had his moment. It was fine. I don't really care. Do I wish he didn't do that on the air?
DJ Envy
Yeah, it was great.
Abby Phillip
But I'm not using it as an excuse to say that we're going to play it safe on television because that's not what we're doing here.
Charlamagne Tha God
So you book a fantastic job.
DJ Envy
Fantastic booking. What's her name? Fantastic booking. Okay. Does she book your show every night?
Abby Phillip
No, she, she is, unfortunately. She moved to a different city, so she's no longer with us. But she was over. No, but we, listen, we, I, I, I. It wasn't just her. I told her boss to too.
Jessalarius
Yeah.
Abby Phillip
And I was like, we are not, we are not going to treat this like some kind of major mistake because it was not. It is television.
Jessalarius
Yeah.
Abby Phillip
And sometimes in television you have guests and you don't know what they're gonna say. And the whole point of TV is not to be predictable and boring.
DJ Envy
That's right.
Abby Phillip
So let's not do that.
DJ Envy
I thoroughly enjoy your bookings. I thoroughly enjoy your show. Make sure y' all watch abby Phillip on CNN News Night every night at 10. And then there's table for five comes.
Abby Phillip
On at 10am on Saturdays. And don't forget to buy the book.
DJ Envy
Yes. A Dream Deferred. It's out right now. Jesse Jackson in the fight for black political power. It's Abby Phillip. It's the Breakfast Club.
Charlamagne Tha God
Let's get to the latest with Lauren.
Jessalarius
Lauren becoming a straight F. She gets.
DJ Envy
Them from somebody that knows somebody. Some she gets the details.
Lauren LaRosa
I'm the home girl that knows a little bit about Everything she be having.
DJ Envy
The latest on that sound the bees the largest. The Latest with Lauren LaRosa. Sometimes you have facts, sometimes you have details, sometimes you have a little bit everything. What was the latest on the Breakfast Club?
Lauren LaRosa
Alrighty, guys. So Pastor Marvin Winans is back in conversation again. Him and Perfecting church. And this time it is because Tyler Perry has donated a hundred thousand dollars to the church. After seeing all of the fallout that we talked about in here last time, people being upset about. That's right, the money that he was asking to donate. Let's take a listen to pastor Marvin Whin last church.
Abby Phillip
Yes.
DJ Envy
Tyler Perry, some of you have been here at perfecting for over 30 plus years. And I remember when we started just asking everyone that was a member to come every Sunday with a seed of $25, the Church World went crazy. They went to talking about they making people pay, they paying a cover charge. They coming for us to grow to a ministry ministry where we can come and confidently give a thousand dollars. Plus when the devil went crazy, folks started calling up from other states saying, I got to give on this. Since it broke out Monday, one person called and he said, tell my name, he said, because I know God is in this. Tyler Paris said $100,000. So since last Sunday, it's gone up to about $650,000. Oh, Tyler donated for the church?
Lauren LaRosa
Yes, to the church.
Jessalarius
So that's amazing.
DJ Envy
I forgot, I forgot what Marvin was originally asking for.
Lauren LaRosa
Okay. Yeah. So for everybody that may have forgot originally when we reported this story, the church was taking donations because they are currently building out the church and they do a lot of things in the community. And he was asking for all the members to donate a thousand dollars dollars plus some that you get from other people outside the church. And it went viral because of the way he instructed one woman who came up and read out what she was offering the wrong way and people were pissed about it. People are also upset about this too. The fact that they're talking about all this money that they've raised and they just feel like it shouldn't be happening as well.
Charlamagne Tha God
But yeah, but they're not buying cars, jewelry and clothes. They're doing stuff for the community. I don't mind that. I just don't like where they're asking for a certain amount of money, whether it's 25 or 30 housing, you know, people give what they can. And especially in this environment, in this climate where people are, are struggling and the cost of foods and goods are expensive, they should be able to give what they want and still be able to feel comfortable worshiping the Lord in church.
DJ Envy
And I don't think Marvin Wyatt should say that the folks. He shouldn't be calling folks the devil because they didn't like how he handled someone in his congregation. Correct. Don't say that's the devil. That's not the devil.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
Jessalarius
I think it's just not some people's preference.
DJ Envy
Yeah. It's not the devil.
Jessalarius
It's just. Yeah, that's not.
Charlamagne Tha God
I think that don't sound crazy, though. You got you. Everybody come. Donate 25. What happened if I only have 10? What happened if I said a thousand?
Jessalarius
Everybody.
Charlamagne Tha God
At first he said 25, and then they went later on and he wanted a thousand, but if I don't have it and I just want to give 500, you're gonna make me feel less than if you.
DJ Envy
The same way they say, come as you are. Donate what you can.
Abby Phillip
Yeah, I agree.
DJ Envy
That's what that. That should be the model.
Lauren LaRosa
And I mean, that happens, too, when these type of donations or collections are happening as well. People donate way less than what they're asking for. But you always gonna get back around money in the church. There's always going to be a thing, especially in the black church.
Jessalarius
Everybody broke.
Lauren LaRosa
Yes. During the times right now, too.
DJ Envy
But salute to Tyler. I understand now. I didn't. I totally forgot that Marvin had asked for the money for the church prior. So he was just giving the money for the church.
Lauren LaRosa
Yes. Yep. That is what that is for.
Charlamagne Tha God
Salute to Tyler.
Lauren LaRosa
Yes. Now, dang. We ending it.
Abby Phillip
That.
Lauren LaRosa
That be going so fast. Okay, so Michael Blackson. You guys remember Michael Blackston was here, and he was talking about being able to have an open relationship deal with other women in his relationship. And him and his fiance Rad, talked a bit about that relationship as well, too. We don't have the audio, but basically what he said was that he has other women that he deals with, but Rada knows who the women are, and it's something that they've agreed to be okay with. And just. I know you were on the show.
Jessalarius
Contract. Yes. They have a contract in place.
Lauren LaRosa
Yes. Well, yesterday, Michael Blackson. Michael Blackson announced that he had a new baby that he says it's a baby boy, and he says that it's a male friend that he's known for over five years. This woman gave birth to the baby boy that you know is bringing him so much joy.
Jessalarius
A female friend.
Lauren LaRosa
Yes.
Mimi Brown
Yep.
Jessalarius
Yeah, you said a male friend.
Lauren LaRosa
Oh, shoot. Sorry, I thought I said female. Female friend. Yes.
Abby Phillip
Yeah.
Lauren LaRosa
Female friend that he's on for over five years. I gave birth to a baby boy. And, you know, he says his apologies for waiting so long, but he didn't know how to do it. He says his order to him boys are now 18. Didn't find out till last night, and my own mom didn't even know. He said, I love kids, and I want to thank God for bringing me two more healthy boys. My apologies to Rod.
DJ Envy
I.
Lauren LaRosa
And I hope she forgives me for the pain I've brought her. I'm going to be the best loving father in the world. To avoid turning into Nick Ken or Elon Musk. I'm only dating women that ran out of period or have had a hysterectomy. Now and then he shows you photos of the baby. And Rada has responded to that because after this post went up, of course, people instantly, they were really upset for her.
DJ Envy
We're gonna talk about it after. Don.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, well, we want to open up the phone lines, too, and discuss. 800-585-1051. We'll break it down more. They have an open relationship.
Jessalarius
He had a.
Charlamagne Tha God
A baby outside of his main relationship with Rada. And people are saying, well, that should be expected. They have an open relationship. But we'll break it down more and we'll start taking your phone calls. 800-585-1051. Charlamagne donkey today. Who you giving your donkey to, man?
DJ Envy
Man, I don't know what's going on with these parents in these schools. Something else. Okay, it's something else. It's another one, man. There's a woman named Brandy Covington. She's from Florida. She's 40 years old. She need to come to the front of the congregation. We need to have a word from her world with her. I know the lady from Detroit called me earlier. She might call you back, but it's not my fault. It's not my fault these people keep doing these crazy things at these schools. Let's talk about it. Let's discuss it.
Charlamagne Tha God
All right, we'll get to that. Next, just the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Caller/Listener
Make sure you tell them to watch.
Charlamagne Tha God
Out for Florida, man.
DJ Envy
The craziest people in America come from the Bronx and all of Florida. Yes, you are a donkey.
Mimi Brown
The Florida man attacked an atmosphere for.
Abby Phillip
A very strange reason.
Mimi Brown
It gave him too much money. Florida man is arrested after deputies say he rigged the door to his home in an attempt to electrocute his pregnant wife.
Abby Phillip
Police arrested an Orlando man for attacking a flamingo.
DJ Envy
The Breakfast Club Donkey of the day with Charlamagne, the guy. I don't know why y' all keep letting him get y' all like this. It's always my fault. Okay? It's my fault for calling out the obvious. Okay? Donkey of the day for Tuesday, October 28th goes to Brandon Covet Branding Cindy Covington. Okay? She is 40 years old, and she hails from the great state of Florida. What does your Uncle Charlotte always say about the great state of Florida? Say it with me. The craziest people in America come from the Bronx and all of Florida, and today is no exception. Now, I don't know why we the people don't have better conflict resolution skills. Okay? Yesterday I gave donkey of the day to a brother from Michigan who allegedly threatened to shoot up in elementary school after his kid wasn't given a chance treat at snack time. Well, today we have a mom who is accused of threatening to bomb a high school. Now, I said yesterday that the brother from Detroit should have handled the situation differently. Meaning you don't have to threaten the teacher or threaten to shoot up the school. None of that. Allegedly. Okay? Just calmly request a meeting with the teacher or school administration to discuss your child not receiving a snack. Because when you in this private setting, emotions are less heightened. Okay? The teacher. Teacher in school can explain the snack policy. Then both parties can find a solution. This approach reduces conflict. It opens up communication. And this is always good to have a witness around so nobody can say you said something you didn't. This is what I said yesterday. Well, this woman, Brandi Covington, actually did that. She actually had a conversation with a school employee who tried to explain to her why her daughter's boyfriend had his school lunch account flagged. He had an apparent lack of funds. And since he had a lack of funds, he had his school supplied lunch taken away. So the employees explained the school's process of dealing with students without money in their account. Imma be honest with you. I'm already confused. See, I understand someone feeling away about their child, but your daughter's boyfriend. But I have to keep telling myself this is Florida, so let me hear it out. Now, I don't know why this young man's school lunch isn't free. I had to look up the school. It's Rockledge High School. School had to look it up this morning to make sure they wasn't a private school. Because I personally feel like all public schools should have free lunch. That's usually the case.
Abby Phillip
Right.
DJ Envy
I haven't been, you know, in a school in decades, but Public schools usually have free breakfast and lunch, regardless of, you know, the family's income. Or maybe I'm making this up.
Abby Phillip
I don't know.
DJ Envy
Regardless of what the policy is, the school employee tried to explain the policy in the process to her, and then Brandi got bucked. She wasn't having it. She called the school, cursed out the staff, and said, allegedly, I'll be over there to blow that effing school up. Okay? Then she called again from the assistant principal's office, because she actually went to visit the district offices and threatened to burn the school down. So, listen, she spoke to an employee, then visited the district offices, and called the school from the district offices to make even more threats. That's not how any of this should be handled, okay? If that young man don't have no money on his account for lunch, it's not the school's fault. Even though I do wonder why the school doesn't have a free lunch policy. But this is what I said yesterday. Always feel free to gather information and policy review. This is what Brandy did. She just didn't like the policy review. But when you don't like someone's policy review, this isn't the way to handle it, okay? Now, when police came to Brandy's house, Brandy admitted to the calls, but of course, she denied threatening to harm the school. Of course she did. But she was around arrested, and now faces the charge of threatening to just discharge a destructive device. And she was released on a 75, 000 bond. Okay, usually it's what, 10? So it's 7. $500? Let me tell you something, man. Once again, this is what happens when a human doesn't do their jail math. Now, I don't know why you was calling this high school for your daughter's boyfriend. It's Florida, so it's possible that's both y' all boyfriend. But I digress. Okay. Okay. You got to do your jail math. What is your jail math? Your jail math is when you find yourself in a situation, and you have to calculate whether or not you can afford to do whatever time you will have to do if you react a certain way to said situation. Brandi had to pay bond. Now she's got to hire a lawyer to fight to keep her out of prison. I have one simple question, Brandi. If you got the money to do all that, why didn't you just put the money in your daughter's boyfriend account? So then then he would have the funds to get his school supplied lunch? Am I the only one that remembers all of this started because her daughter's boyfriend had his school supplied lunch taken away from him due to lack of funds in his account. So you can afford to allegedly curse the staff at the school out, threaten to blow the school up and then afford to be released on a $75,000 bond, but you can't afford to make sure your daughter's boyfriend had a little had a little money in his account for lunch. Don't wreck your brain trying to understand this. Just remember one thing. Florida, ladies and gentlemen, Florida. Please give Brandy Covington the sweet sounds of the Hamiltones.
Charlamagne Tha God
Lauren of the day. He haul.
DJ Envy
You want to play a game and guess what race it is or y' all know?
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes, let's play a game.
DJ Envy
You want to play a game? Yeah, let's play a game of guess.
Caller/Listener
What race it is.
DJ Envy
Covington of Florida. Okay. Her daughter's boyfriend had his school lunch account flag because he had an apparent lack of funds. So she called and threatened to blow the school up because of it. Guess what race it is. DJ Envy.
Charlamagne Tha God
Her name is Brand.
DJ Envy
Brandy or Brandy?
Charlamagne Tha God
Brandy?
DJ Envy
Yes. Covington. Covington, yes.
Charlamagne Tha God
Florida. Blow up the school?
DJ Envy
Yes. Black. Damn, that's crazy. Why you think that I want to know Brandy? What that mean?
Charlamagne Tha God
I don't know any white brandies. You know white brandies.
Jessalarius
I know plenty white high school. Yes, I do know white brandies.
Charlamagne Tha God
You think of Brandy and Brandy.
DJ Envy
That's your problem. You think just because Brandy the singer is black that they is all brand like you an idiot. You're an idiot. You should be deported. Just hilarious.
Abby Phillip
What?
DJ Envy
Brandy Covington, 40 years old, hails from the great state of Florida. Called to threaten up her. Called to threaten to blow up her. Called to threaten to blow up a school because her daughter's boyfriend had his school lunch account flag for a parent. Like a fun guess what? Right she is.
Jessalarius
She's w. Okay.
DJ Envy
Why? Why?
Caller/Listener
Why?
Jessalarius
Because her daughter's boyfriend did not have money.
Charlamagne Tha God
So only white people don't have money.
Jessalarius
No, I'm just saying, like no black mother is about to care about their daughter's boyfriend not having accounts. I mean not having money to get lunch.
DJ Envy
That is a great point.
Jessalarius
Like what? A black mom would help that little boy out here you or pack lunch here, get us to your boy, get a sandwich to Lord Devonte or whatever.
Abby Phillip
No.
DJ Envy
All the black mother would say, you got your nose open over that little boy. That boy don't care nothing about you broke. Give a damn about that little broke ass boy.
Jessalarius
But you know black moms don't care they're like a village.
Lauren LaRosa
They like.
Jessalarius
All right, look, if they ain't got no lunch here, you take them this or whatever you share with him, or I'mma give him some money until his parents pay me back.
DJ Envy
Well, one of y' all is right, one of y' all is wrong. And I would like to say that DJ Envy, you are absolutely, positively wrong. Jeff Hilarus, you are correct. Wreck Brandy Covington and Caucasian.
Jessalarius
And then also, I went to high school, like, a predominantly white high school. And so I know. I know things about, like, white kids that blacks don't.
Charlamagne Tha God
So. Okay, okay.
Jessalarius
That's something that a white family would do.
DJ Envy
Awesome.
Lauren LaRosa
Sources close to white families, right?
Charlamagne Tha God
Like, all right.
DJ Envy
Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
All right. Well, thank you for that donkey today. Now let's open up the phone lines, 800-585-10519. Now, quickly, just break down Michael Blackson and his fiance Ryder.
Lauren LaRosa
So Michael Blackston and his fiance Rada were in an open relationship, and he let the world know yesterday that he has welcomed a child with a female friend for over 5 years. And RADA is, of course, upset, and she says she is no longer being a part of the circus.
Charlamagne Tha God
All right, so let's open up the phone lines, 800-585-1051. We'll break it down. If you look at some of the comments, it was everywhere yesterday. People were saying, well, you have an open relationship. That's what you expect.
DJ Envy
Expect.
Charlamagne Tha God
What, you got something?
Lauren LaRosa
I was going to say, we got the audio from when Michael Blackson was here explaining a relationship, too. Whenever you meet.
Charlamagne Tha God
We'll do it when we come back. Yeah, we'll do it when we come back. We'll take your calls. It's the Breakfast Club. Come on. The Breakfast Club.
DJ Envy
It's topic time.
Charlamagne Tha God
Call 800-585-1051 to join into the discussion.
DJ Envy
With the Breakfast Club.
Charlamagne Tha God
Morning, everybody. It's the AJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Lola Rose is here as well. If you're just joining us, we were talking about Michael Blackson and his fiance Ryder. Yesterday he announced that he had a baby two months after his baby with Ryder. So break it down. And what happened?
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah, so he posted that he just had another baby with a friend of five years, and he apologized the Ryder in his announcement of the baby. And she, you know, she's upset about it, and she says she's no longer going to be a part of the circus. And she understands that, you know, people thought that this was embarrassing for her, but she loved him. And she thought she understood him.
Charlamagne Tha God
All right, so people are saying, 800-585-1051. They had an open relationship. And people are saying, well, they had an open relationship. What do you expect? Like, he slings his penis around, but.
Jessalarius
It was rules to this one. I know it sounds crazy, but it was arranged like they had a contract in place. Like, he has rules. He's not supposed to buy the women nothing to eat. Like, after he has sex with them, he can only have three. Yeah, right. He can only have three women per month. Like, you know, condoms have to always be used.
DJ Envy
Condoms could break.
Jessalarius
I, I understand, but women are hungry. That's like you just finished eating.
DJ Envy
What, What?
Jessalarius
You should be full for a while after eating something like that. You know, maybe not to fill her up, but that's what it is. I mean, I, I, she been said she was tired of this. She been saying she was going to leave. But she does love him because she thought she understood him. That's why she put the contract in place. She was just trying to compromise with her man.
Charlamagne Tha God
But do you, do you think what a lot of people are saying they had an open relationship, and even though there's a conflict, contract things happen, and that was something that could have happened, and it happened.
Jessalarius
I mean, I don't think it's rules or stipulations you can put on something like that. It's either monogamy or polygamy.
Charlamagne Tha God
Correct. Now, Lauren, you've been in a relationship like this before, so I've never been.
Lauren LaRosa
In an open relationship. Don't start that.
Charlamagne Tha God
I'm sorry.
Lauren LaRosa
Don't start that conversation. No, I've never been in an open relationship.
Charlamagne Tha God
But what do you think somebody had.
Caller/Listener
A baby on you.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah, but it wasn't an open relationship. But I just feel like, I mean, I feel bad for Rada. I understand, though. She kind of put herself in a situation, but I felt really, really bad for her because. Because even though things happen, I do, I do think that you just got to try your best not to let it happen. When, you know, she, she already letting you do all this stuff. You can't just pull out, make sure the condom.
Charlamagne Tha God
You can't make sure the condom don't break. Condoms break.
Jessalarius
Also on top of this, right? She just had a baby. So postpartum, it could be like, in effect right now, postpartum depression.
Abby Phillip
I'm sorry.
Jessalarius
Could be. I'm not diagnosing her, but I'm just saying, like, yo, she just had a baby. So all of this public embarrassment From Mike, it's just like, yo, everything is not funny all the time. And that.
Charlamagne Tha God
That's.
Lauren LaRosa
That's.
Jessalarius
If you were apologizing to her, this was not the way to do it. Like, it didn't have to be.
Lauren LaRosa
She said the apology was a joke.
Charlamagne Tha God
I don't think Michael Blackson, it didn't sound like he cared too much. He's saying, like, he's a comedian.
Abby Phillip
He gonna.
Charlamagne Tha God
Joe, he gonna find out the funny. And anybody that's comedians.
DJ Envy
I think you sound like a hoe.
Charlamagne Tha God
You think what?
DJ Envy
I think you sound like a hoe.
Charlamagne Tha God
Why?
Jessalarius
Oh, my God.
DJ Envy
I don't think. It's none of your business. All my business. Like, let the women have this conversation. I don't know nothing about these people. No, I'm.
Charlamagne Tha God
I'm talking about comments I'm reading. What's. What. What people are saying. That's why they're saying that, you know, they had an open relationship and we got people on the line.
Jessalarius
Shut up, Charlemagne.
DJ Envy
I am.
Charlamagne Tha God
Hello? Who's this? Yo, what you thought? What's your. What's your thought, Jay J.
Caller/Listener
So I was going to tell y'. All I had the same situation.
DJ Envy
Situation?
Charlamagne Tha God
What?
Caller/Listener
Man, look, I thought I was having my first son and turned out to be having. I was having my first daughter. So what?
Hold on.
Lauren LaRosa
They got the gender of the baby?
Caller/Listener
No, they turned out to be ghetto twins. Like, I was having a son, but another girl was having a good girl.
Jessalarius
So you was having two kids at one time? Okay, cool.
Caller/Listener
Yeah, for sure. So the girl, she ended up telling me kind of late down the line. Sound like same situation with Michael Black. Like, trust me, if he would have found out probably prior, like, let's say conceived, like, when it was conceived, it would have been a Planned Parenthood in action.
Abby Phillip
Damn.
Jessalarius
But, nah, he love kids. Thank you.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah. I mean, Michael Black, he loves kids, and he said, you know, he wouldn't get rid of his kids. But I will say that when you. When you have an open relationship, things happen, right? Things are allowed.
DJ Envy
Danielle. Hello. Good morning.
Lauren LaRosa
Good morning.
Charlamagne Tha God
Now it says you're in an open relationship.
DJ Envy
Danielle.
Lauren LaRosa
Danielle.
DJ Envy
Yes, I am. I am.
Charlamagne Tha God
Talk to us.
DJ Envy
Your phone sound amazing. Danielle.
Caller/Listener
That's that new iPhone.
DJ Envy
That's that new iPhone that they bought me.
Caller/Listener
So I'm telling you.
Abby Phillip
Put money together.
DJ Envy
I love this relationship. Yeah.
Abby Phillip
So that's what I'm about to.
Charlamagne Tha God
That's what I was saying is that.
DJ Envy
That can't come with as far as that pregnancy, but there are rules, and that we have to follow it's almost like a contract. So I'm older than both of them. I don't want any more. They have two, they want another one. I would never try to get pregnant on purpose. That can't come with it. But we already know. We take measures not to get pregnant. But once you have those rules and everything worked out, it can be a great thing. We were together all this weekend doing Halloween activities with our kids. If I need somebody to go pick up my child from school, they there. We help each other financially. We do have our adult time where we do things as far as children, trips, going out.
Charlamagne Tha God
Now I'm single, but it does make.
DJ Envy
It hard if I was trying to date because they fulfill everything that I need financially. Friendship. I still go out with her.
Lauren LaRosa
I go out with him.
DJ Envy
We go out together, we travel together. Plus, our kids know each other. We help each other with that. So it's like a whole little system. Nah.
Jessalarius
You said nah. You said when you first answered the phone, you was in an open relationship. And then now down. You're saying you single. That should be one of the rules. You can't be out here saying you single.
DJ Envy
I'm saying if. When I have been single and dating.
Jessalarius
Oh, okay.
DJ Envy
They set the bar so high that I don't even want to do that.
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, you comfortable? What if you did get pregnant? Let's say you did get pregnant by accident. Hello, Arizona.
Jessalarius
Hello, Arizona.
DJ Envy
I mean, she can still go get an abortion. I'll tell you something. All I know is you got me looking at iPhone 17s. I need that iPhone 17 because your phone sounds amazing and the pictures are.
Charlamagne Tha God
Amazing on iPhone 17, by the way, too.
DJ Envy
Some applications, I might as well, but we closed over here. I hope I got a free tr. I hope I'm eligible for a free upgrade.
Charlamagne Tha God
All right, thank you, mama. Hello? Who's this?
Caller/Listener
Is this Eddie Blake from Dayton?
Charlamagne Tha God
What's up? Eddie Black from Dayton? What's your opinion, man?
Caller/Listener
I believe old girl's getting what she signed up for. You know, she's okay with being in an open relationship, so she has to be able to accept that this is what's going to happen. I mean, if you think about it, where's the equivalent exchange? Is she able to go out and get banged out by a bunch of dudes openly and, you know, come back with a baby? You know, where's the equivalent exchange? I believe it's, you know, the monetary value. You know, she's there for the money. I mean, think about it.
Jessalarius
She got her own money.
Caller/Listener
She got her own Money?
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah.
Caller/Listener
What does she do? Because I'm. I didn't watch it.
Jessalarius
I'm. I'm not sure she comes from money though.
Charlamagne Tha God
That.
Jessalarius
That's. That's the thing. She don't need his money. Yeah.
Caller/Listener
So she went.
DJ Envy
She.
Caller/Listener
She with this. This dude just out of.
Lauren LaRosa
That's what she said. Yeah, she said she loved him and she thought she understood the little boy inside that wanted to be loved. And that's why she stuck around for so long.
Charlamagne Tha God
But she's not involved with the open relationship part, right? She's not seeing other guys. It's just. She just allows him to see other women.
Caller/Listener
Well, why like if she was the happiness reciprocated that way, like what is.
DJ Envy
She getting out of it?
Jessalarius
So look, per the rules of the contract when I was around them, no, like she's not able to go out and do. But that's the thing. She don't even want to. She wants to be with Michael and she wants Michael to only be with her. But that's not what he want to do, you know, so she's just trying to compromise and please her man or whatever to stay with him.
Caller/Listener
Well then she's a fool. She's a fool who wasn't raised right. Because dude look like. He look like Gollum from Beowulf. You know how many times she gonna let him sucker herself out of her panties?
Jessalarius
I understand. I get it.
Caller/Listener
He's not that funny, you know.
Jessalarius
Damn.
Caller/Listener
I can see like I don't get it, but you know, that's how dudes is. So it happens.
DJ Envy
Hey, tell him King. You wouldn't sleep with him.
Caller/Listener
I wouldn't sleep with her. She's a bottom feeder apparently.
Charlamagne Tha God
Damn. All right, bro. Thank you.
DJ Envy
That's why you can't. I can't even play with people. He ain't even denying it. He sleep with him.
Jessalarius
He went right over that.
DJ Envy
I mean, cuz, everybody's so gay now. Back in the day that would have hit.
Lauren LaRosa
But back in the day that would have hit now we so fluid.
DJ Envy
Everybody's no gay. When with it now it's like whatever.
Charlamagne Tha God
Hello? Who's this?
Caller/Listener
Hey, from Detroit.
Charlamagne Tha God
Hey, what up, doe? Hey girl, what's up Shay? Talk to us.
DJ Envy
Hey, good morning to everybody.
Mimi Brown
Hey.
Caller/Listener
I love you the most.
Jessalarius
I love.
Caller/Listener
But I just want to say about that. Thank you. I just want to say about that situation with. With him and her. Like how you gonna say you gonna want to be a part of the circus? You are the circus. Any a female who got a contract with a man this Is what you deserve. Like any of the stuff they to the media, when you get embarrassed, don't be mad about it now. So I just feel like she shouldn't be saying nothing like that. Like you allowed that for so long and you get what you deserve. And I'm not mad at no man if a woman allows him to do what he do.
Jessalarius
Yeah, absolutely.
Caller/Listener
And I want to touch on one thing too. Thank you, Sarah, for giving him that money too. But I don't respect that. He did put a price on what should be inside of the church. But we sit at that church, sitting on that corner, and it's just sitting. I said they need some money to be the.
DJ Envy
I don't know what you said, but yes, you know it is, man. None of y' all saw the movie TWA in the year 2000 in this.
Jessalarius
What is it?
DJ Envy
It's a movie called TWA. Came out in the year 2000. It would, you know, deter you and scare you from this type of behavior.
Abby Phillip
But, you know, all right, I got.
DJ Envy
Watch it. You said twa.
Lauren LaRosa
Twa.
Jessalarius
Y a see, in the early 2000.
DJ Envy
Was all around New York. That was all around that. That. Okay, what is the moral of the story? The moral of the story is you was out here. That's how people was getting record deals in the early 2000s in New York, by looking at that.
Jessalarius
Listen, understand Farada, right? The moral of the story is, yo, listen, God will allow for the same thing to keep happening to you until you wake up up, right? Because she said she was done a long time ago, before she had a kid with him, before he proposed three times and didn't marry her just. But he proposed just to shut her up before he told her like, yo, I cannot be faithful.
Abby Phillip
It is what it is.
Jessalarius
I'm not a one woman man. Like, you have to know you can't change a person and you keep getting hurt and you keep getting hurt and God will allow it to happen until you wake up and you see a vow value. So if you really trying to lead a circus, go ahead, leave.
Lauren LaRosa
God bless her. That is a tough pain to deal with.
Jessalarius
And then with Mike, he. He was honest the whole time about everything. So I can't even. You know what I'm saying? He's gotta find somebody that's really okay with.
Lauren LaRosa
He keep being funny in his apologies. I know he's a comedian, but certain stuff though, it's like, bro, that's not true. That's embarrassing.
DJ Envy
Everything is funny.
Jessalarius
But listen, everything is funny.
Lauren LaRosa
She had a baby. That is not funny.
Jessalarius
I know, I know. To us. But, like, for real, it was some deep. It was like some deep therapy being done at. On the show. Right. Couples retreat. And Michael, that's his way of, like, doing. Yeah. Because he was even telling us about, like, some of his issues that they had. They were robbed when they were younger and all this type of stuff, and he made a lot of it into a joke, but it was all real. So that could be his therapy. That could be the way he coped. Just making things funny.
Charlamagne Tha God
All right, well, we got the latest with Lauren coming up. What are we talking about?
Lauren LaRosa
We do. We gonna talk Black Panther? Because yesterday, Damson Idris was with Angela back at Vogue World, and it sparked some rumors again, reignited that he might be joining that franchise as t', Challa. A new t'. Challa. Let's talk about it.
Charlamagne Tha God
All right, we'll get into that next. It's the Breakfast Club. Come on. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Now. Halloween is this week, and my kids just told me that they want me to do Trunk or Treat. And I've been looking up all types of decorations and stuff. I don't want to do it.
Mimi Brown
Why?
DJ Envy
They don't do trunk or treated to school. They do trunk or treated at school.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, that my kids want me to do it there, but they want me to decorate, but I don't want to do it. And I told them like three times, like, it's supposed to rain. I try to give mad excuses, and.
DJ Envy
They just like, today is the Halloween.
Charlamagne Tha God
Friday.
Jessalarius
Friday.
DJ Envy
Oh, we dressing up. We dressing up. We dressing up.
Jessalarius
Hey, you do that?
DJ Envy
Yeah, we be dressing up in here.
Abby Phillip
Yes.
Jessalarius
Good.
Abby Phillip
Absolutely.
Jessalarius
Yeah, we be dressing up in here.
Charlamagne Tha God
Where you going to be this year?
Lauren LaRosa
Oh, my God.
Caller/Listener
Know yet?
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes, you do.
DJ Envy
He.
Charlamagne Tha God
He order his costume months ago. He a liar, man.
Lauren LaRosa
Look at he be ready.
Charlamagne Tha God
Let's get to the latest with Laura.
Jessalarius
Lauren becoming a straight face.
Charlamagne Tha God
She gets him from somebody that knows.
DJ Envy
Somebody gets the details.
Lauren LaRosa
I'm the home girl that knows a little bit about everything.
DJ Envy
She be having the latest on the Latest with Lauren LaRosa. Sometimes she have facts, sometimes she have detailed. Sometimes you have a little bit of everything. Oh, it's the latest on the Breakfast Club. Talk to me.
Lauren LaRosa
So Vogue World happened over the weekend, and there was a lot going on there. So this year, Vogue World, Hollywood, they did a nod to a lot of the amazing fashion that you find in a lot of the big films and big, huge Hollywood Characters. So you had Black Panther sets. I saw Anok, the model Anok. She did, uh, the Edward Scissor Hands, uh, set. There was a lot going on. DOA Cat performed, formed a ton of celebrities there, ton of big names there. But there was a photo backstage that was taken of Angela Bassett and Damson Idris. Now, Angela Bassett and Damson Idris both walked on the. They had a. It's like they set it up like the movie where they'll have, like, the costumes and even some of the people from a movie or a series. Right. But then they also do a Runway portion. Now they both walk the Runway. Angela Bassett closed the Runway out. But this photo. Oh, and Tiana Taylor opened it with, like, choreography, and she also walked as well. This is her. This is not her first time doing a boat world. She always tears it down at both world. But this photo that was taken behind the scenes of dancing. And Ms. Angela Bassett has sparked and reignited the conversation of is he going to be a reimagined t' Challa in Black Panther? And I've been told by a source close to production that, no, he is not. Damn it is not happening. Happening.
DJ Envy
But they wouldn't tell you if they were. This is Marvel.
Charlamagne Tha God
It would be a surprise.
DJ Envy
You know, it wouldn't be true. Do you remember back in the day? I'm talking about way, way, way, way, way back in the day when Chadwick Boseman did Breakfast Club. This is like, he did it, like, three times. This is like his first time, like, long, long time ago. And I asked him about the rumors of him playing Black Panther, and he did not. He didn't pop up, pop out his Black Panther for, like, another five years.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah, so I did say that. I said, you know, I know it's one of those things that you. You're not going to say it because. Because there's a huge rollout. That universe is so well kept. So I get it. But.
Charlamagne Tha God
But you just said you believed it.
Lauren LaRosa
From what I was told, because the person I'm talking to is a person that would know. So as of right now, what I'm told is no. So if it changes, we'll have the inside there, too.
Jessalarius
Like, it's locked down. Like, you. Even when you're up to audition for a role, you cannot even talk about that. If you're auditioning for, like, something Marvel, whatever. You can't even talk about it.
Charlamagne Tha God
How. You know, I don't know.
DJ Envy
Listen, I don't know about dancing as Black Panther, but I know Teyana Taylor should Have always been one of the dawn.
Mimi Brown
Malaysia.
Lauren LaRosa
Seen her on the Runway.
DJ Envy
No, I didn't know you watched. I just said that. Showed us the picture. Yes, I did.
Lauren LaRosa
Okay, cuz, the picture, the picture. She looks amazing. But the video, she ate it down. I didn't know you watched.
DJ Envy
Yes. I'm so sick of y' all acting like Tiana. Not one of the most naturally talented people on the planet, by the way. I didn't watch. I saw the video because her mama posted it. And I was thinking to myself, Damn, Ms. Nikki, you about to get Tiana 5 from Marvel. You're not supposed to be poisonous. I thought they was filming or something. I didn't realize. Realized that they were doing the Runway. Tiana's like Batman. Anything she prepares for, she bodies.
Lauren LaRosa
Down and she goes from the choreography to then the walk, and it's just so flawless, so effortless as she does it. Yeah. So. And Vogue World is they do this whole thing to raise money for the arts. So they were able to raise $4.5 million, which will be donated directly to support costume. The costume community. Professionals who have been impacted by the recent LA Wildfire. So that's dope.
Abby Phillip
You know? Know.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah. Great reasoning as well. Now, trans. Or I was going to say transforming, because I'm thinking like girl.
DJ Envy
Know what?
Lauren LaRosa
No. In other news, transitioning you right today.
Caller/Listener
You okay?
DJ Envy
Something wrong?
Lauren LaRosa
I'm telling you first, I got rest last night, so I'm good now. But I really was thinking about transitioning. Thinking about Tiana. But in other TV in Hollywood. Hollywood news. Mari.
Abby Phillip
Oh.
Lauren LaRosa
Oh, my God. Jess, stop. Mari sat down with Nick Cannon for We Play in Space, and he talked about the era of the 90s, all the talk shows.
Charlamagne Tha God
You mean Maury?
Lauren LaRosa
Maury.
Charlamagne Tha God
He was gonna say Mariju.
Lauren LaRosa
Mari.
Charlamagne Tha God
Jaguar.
Lauren LaRosa
Jaguar, yeah. Let's take a listen to this.
DJ Envy
Pronounce nothing. How dare y'?
Abby Phillip
All.
Jessalarius
How dare?
DJ Envy
How dare any of us correct anybody we know? More burrito?
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
DJ Envy
The golden age of daytime. It was the 90s, okay. There were like 12 of us.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
DJ Envy
And it was such a time, believe it or not, I'm doing a documentary on it. Oh, wow. Yeah. Of all the talk shows in the 90s. Such a good idea. Wow. And so, you know, from Oprah to Phil Donahue to Geraldo to Sally Montel. Montel J. Jones, Ricky Lake. Okay, so all 12 of you guys are hanging out like the Avengers in a room. Who's the one that everyone else is talking about? I'll tell you a story about it. So Phil donahue On his 25th anniversary, NBC gives him a big prime time show and invites all the daytime talk show hosts to do a skit on the show. We are all in the green room. Oprah, me, Coraldo, Jenny Jones, all these. Not one of us are talking to each other. Our egos are so big we don't want to even talk to anybody. And you guys talk for us. Living.
Lauren LaRosa
That was such a good time in tv.
Jessalarius
Hell yeah.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah. Such a good time.
DJ Envy
Oh, you.
Lauren LaRosa
I was young. I used to come home from school. I think I was in like maybe elementary, probably elementary school. I just remember getting off school and my mom and my grandma would be watching the different shows and you would.
Jessalarius
Sit down and watch it with them. That's how I got my dear. I came home and my mother was watching a play and I just ever since been talking.
DJ Envy
All those shows were so different too. Every single one of those individuals had their own identity and their own lane. But I will say all those individuals would interview whoever they wanted and they didn't give a damn what the crowd was talking about. Okay? You would see all the problem, so called problematic people. All the people y' all would want to cancel. Y' all be wanting to cancel people for even interviewing those people nowadays.
Caller/Listener
You.
DJ Envy
All of them did it and didn't give a damn what you were talking about. And that's why. That's what made for good television.
Jessalarius
Especially Spring at man, Jerry Spring.
Charlamagne Tha God
He did not care.
Jessalarius
And he was instigating too.
Charlamagne Tha God
Absolutely.
DJ Envy
Springer was different. Springer was more like. What do you call that? Conflict tv. Reality tv. He never had like real interviews on there. Like, Donahue would have like sit downs. Donahue would have like the grand wizard of the kkk.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, yeah.
Jessalarius
Oh, you talking about.
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, you know, they never got.
DJ Envy
Donahue used to have Donovan. Mr. Lewis Farnel. Yeah. What you talking about?
Lauren LaRosa
Crazy.
Jessalarius
Yeah, I seen some crazy viral old videos of Oprah too. Bringing some white people on them sh.
Lauren LaRosa
Shows, Breakfast Club. You guys are different.
Jessalarius
You all right, y', all, that is the latest.
Charlamagne Tha God
I need mori to come back up. You know, every time mor came up here, we be like, you are the father. You are the father for how many kids I got. But I had.
Lauren LaRosa
I had an extra kid.
DJ Envy
Okay, See, she done came from my head twice.
Lauren LaRosa
First of all, the caller this morning, had they.
DJ Envy
Somebody bring the handheld camera in here? Okay, what happened to do Lauren how we tried to do Tory Lanez back in the day?
Lauren LaRosa
My head open. He thinks it's funny.
Jessalarius
And you almost died.
Lauren LaRosa
At least try to start growing back yours. Been fighting for his life ever since. You got to get.
Abby Phillip
Stop.
Jessalarius
Yeah, she got.
Abby Phillip
She could have died. Stop.
Charlamagne Tha God
I'm sorry.
Lauren LaRosa
He over there looking like a boss spot. Let's wrap this.
Charlamagne Tha God
I can get you just for. Man, it covers that.
DJ Envy
Lauren Jefferson. That's Lauren Le Jefferson.
Abby Phillip
Y.
Caller/Listener
All right.
DJ Envy
That is the latest.
Charlamagne Tha God
Let's get up out of here. The people choice mix is up next.
DJ Envy
Club.
Charlamagne Tha God
Good morning.
DJ Envy
Yo Chat.
Charlamagne Tha God
We'll see you later, Chat. Morning, everybody. Is DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. All right, you guys. You. You guys have a great day. I have to go find some decorations for Trunk or Treat, which I really.
DJ Envy
Don'T want to do.
Charlamagne Tha God
I gotta do everything out of my kids not to do it.
Abby Phillip
Nah.
Charlamagne Tha God
But we go trick or treating.
Jessalarius
It's like, your kids are not smart. All they can do is check the weather. All they got to do is check the weather.
DJ Envy
Right?
Charlamagne Tha God
And that's what they did. They was like, no, no, dad, you could do it. We could do it.
Abby Phillip
Just.
Charlamagne Tha God
You know, I don't even know what to put in there. Like, what do you put?
Jessalarius
Like, I know you never decorated your truck before.
Charlamagne Tha God
No, you. You decorated yours.
DJ Envy
Oh, my wife.
Jessalarius
But exactly. He never did.
Charlamagne Tha God
I don't know. What. I don't know if you put something in a cushion or comforter under and put can.
DJ Envy
I don't know.
Lauren LaRosa
See, I.
Jessalarius
This. This Halloween is easy for me because my son don't celebrate it and my daughter too young to even know what it is. So I'm happy I don't got to do none of that. But I will be dressing up Friday, and I hope Charlotte will be dressing up Friday as well, because I got four shows this weekend at the Comedy Zone in Charlotte, North Carolina. Get your tickets if you haven't yet. Jessalariusofficial.com I'll be giving away a cash prize to the person that show up in the best Halloween costume. Me and Desi will be in our costumes, so make sure you get your tickets.
Charlamagne Tha God
All right, now we got a salute to Abby who stopped through earlier today.
DJ Envy
Right? Abby Phillip. Man, you make it sound like Dear Abby. Y' all remember Dear Abby back in the day when you. They used to write into the newspaper. Yes, Abby Phillip. She has a new book out right now called A Dream Deferred. Yes. Ah, A Dream Deferred. Jesse Jackson and the Fight for Black Political Power. Plus, Abby has my favorite show on cable news. Man, I love CNN news night at 10 o' clock. And I watch table for five on Saturday mornings at 10 and the reason I love that show is because of the diversity of thought that she has on that show. It ain't just, you know, a bunch of Democrats. It's conservatives. It's independence. I. I really enjoy it.
Charlamagne Tha God
All right, well, salute to her. And you got a positive note.
DJ Envy
Yes, the positive note, man. Be yourself, okay? The easiest thing to be is really yourself, okay? Because nobody can be like you. Nobody on this planet is designed like you. But, you know, nowadays, most people are other people, okay? Their thoughts are someone else's opinions. Their lives are a mimicry. Their passions, questions are a quotation, okay? So really, really, really, really lean in to being yourself. Have a great day. Breakfast Club.
Lauren LaRosa
This is an I Heart podcast.
Episode: Jay-Z Defends Bad Bunny, Diddy’s Release Date, Tyler Perry Donates $100K After Church Controversy + Abby Phillip Interview
Original Air Date: October 28, 2025
This episode of The Breakfast Club dives into major current events in hip-hop and pop culture, political controversies, and relationship dilemmas. Notable segments include Jay-Z publicly defending Bad Bunny’s impending record-breaking Super Bowl performance, discussion about Diddy’s prison release date, Tyler Perry's significant church donation after controversy, and an insightful interview with CNN anchor and author Abby Phillip. The Breakfast Club’s signature blend of humor, audience calls, heated conversation, and sharp social commentary is on full display.
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The episode weaves between headline news, celebrity stories, and community controversies, maintaining a lively, unfiltered, and comedic tone. The hosts aren’t afraid of direct debate, personal jabs, or poignant moments, particularly when navigating sensitive topics like race, incarceration, and love. The Abby Phillip interview stands out for its depth and historical perspective, while the Michael Blackson drama brings laughs and real talk about relationship boundaries.
| Segment | Timestamp | |--------------------------------------|-------------| | Super Bowl/Bad Bunny/Jay-Z | 24:06–28:21 | | Diddy’s Prison Release | 28:49–36:44 | | Tyler Perry Church Donation | 71:38–74:59 | | Government Shutdown / SNAP Crisis | 07:03–12:05, 37:28–44:56 | | Hurricane Melissa | 38:13–41:32 | | Listener Call-Ins (HBCUs/Donkey) | 13:32–22:50 | | Abby Phillip Interview | 45:26–71:13 | | Michael Blackson Baby News | 75:03–97:36 | | Marvel/Black Panther Rumors | 98:07–103:16 | | “Guess What Race It Is” | 83:11–85:20 | | Daytime Talk Show Nostalgia | 103:24–105:51 |
The episode is a prime example of The Breakfast Club's ability to navigate serious news and pop culture with humor, candor, and relevance—delivering both laughs and genuine insight for those who may have missed it live.