FULL SHOW: Jay-Z On Staying Authentic While Aging In Hip Hop + John Starks Interview

Summary

The Breakfast Club | April 29, 2026

"FULL SHOW: Jay-Z On Staying Authentic While Aging In Hip Hop + John Starks Interview"

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Episode Overview

In this multifaceted episode of The Breakfast Club, DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God, and Lauren LaRosa dive into an array of hot topics in music, culture, sports, and current events. The show features highlights from Jay-Z's sit-down with The New York Times on authenticity and evolution in hip hop, discussions on the evolving definition of a "gold digger," trending news stories, and a rich, insightful interview with Knicks legend John Starks. The cast also explores viral moments, audience calls, and shout-outs, maintaining their signature blend of humor, candor, and sharp cultural commentary.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Jay-Z on Authenticity, Aging, and Growth in Hip Hop (28:04–36:43)

Main Idea:
Jay-Z opens up about navigating the pressures and expectations of aging in hip hop, stressing the value of authenticity over trends, and the importance of telling your own story as you evolve.

Highlights:

• Don’t Fight the Future:

  • "Never fight against the future. Future's coming." – Jay-Z, (29:24)
  • Encourages artists to embrace where they are in life rather than clinging to their younger selves.
  • Warns against older artists making 'young music' to stay relevant, as it often lacks authenticity and resonates poorly.

• On Evolving Values:

  • "Things I believed to be true... a lot of street codes and things like that may mess with our emotional intelligence." – Jay-Z, (30:47)
  • Shares how some beliefs he held when young have changed, but the core struggle for recognition and expressing real emotions remains.

• Growth and Representation:

  • Charlamagne: "Show me growth. Talk to me about fatherhood...being a husband...doing the work on yourself." (31:22)
  • The cast agrees: true evolution in hip hop involves embracing personal and emotional development and reflecting it in your music.

Memorable Moment:
Charlamagne’s critique of old heads feigning youth:
"If you 40-something still trying to relate to 20-somethings by acting like you 20-something... Yes. You look lame as hell. Okay." (30:18)

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2. The New York Times' "30 Greatest Living American Songwriters" List

A Closer Look and Debate (28:00–36:43)

• Reactions to the List:

  • Jay-Z, Stevie Wonder, Taylor Swift, Missy Elliott, and unexpectedly, Young Thug made the list.
  • Charlamagne questions Thug’s placement:
    "How does Young Thug get on that list? ...Greatest living songwriters in American history..." (28:27)
  • Lauren explains that industry insiders and critics submitted ballots with hundreds of nominees, focusing on artists who both write and perform.
  • They debate the boundaries of songwriting—do collaborators and ghostwriters diminish an artist's credentials?

• Mariah Carey’s Perspective:

  • She feels underappreciated as a songwriter:
    "I want to pay tribute to the people who do make me feel like I'm worthy...I'm a singer-songwriter from the very beginning..." – Mariah Carey, (32:13)

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3. Viral News & Trending Topics

Government Shutdown & Political Rhetoric (07:30–14:16)

• Federal workers face missed paychecks due to DHS funding gridlock.
• The panel discusses the White House’s response to political rhetoric, referencing Charlamagne’s earlier comments about Trump:
  • "At what point do people simply say, hey, Trump, is clear that you're the drama?" – Charlamagne (08:57)
• TSA agents express anxieties over not being paid (10:29).

James Comey Indictment Over Social Media Post (11:00)

• Former FBI director indicted for supposedly threatening Trump via seashell arrangement—panel questions the legitimacy and calls out political retaliation.

Airline Bailouts (41:01)

• Discount airlines, including Spirit, ask for $2.5B in federal aid amidst rising jet fuel prices.
• Charlamagne: “What makes them think taxpayers got the money?” (41:54)

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4. Listener Interactions & Call-Ins

Book Release & Billboard Moment (03:07–04:26)

• Jess Hilarious shares her emotional billboard debut and book launch for "Till Death Do We Parent."

Food, Culture, and Comedy (16:16–21:24)

• Charlemagne and Jess reflect on their favorite restaurants and interactions at the Black Effect Podcast Festival, highlighting community vibes and the importance of food.

"Can Men Be Gold Diggers?" – In-Depth Topic Block (45:04–62:17)

• Prompted by a recent study, hosts and callers energetically debate if men can be gold diggers.
• Charlamagne: "Men can absolutely be gold diggers...You see them all the time...with those fat white women, those older women..." (56:14)
• Multiple callers recount real-life stories of men seeking financial support, flipping traditional gender roles.
• Jess on relationships: "If all that went away, she lost whatever all the money she had, ...would you still like her? Would you be with her?" (58:52)
• DJ Envy’s closing: "The moral of the story…people are being used and things are being loved" (61:54)

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5. Interview: John Starks, Former New York Knicks Player (80:32–97:09)

Background & Early Struggles:

• Grew up in Tulsa, Oklahoma—modest beginnings, no father figure, credits his older brother and coaches for steering him in the right direction.
• Journey: "I went from playing street basketball to playing in the NBA in two years." (81:05)

NBA Career & Mindset:

• Undrafted, played in CBA, then Knicks. Used adversity to fuel improvement.
• "All I thought about was the learning experience that I had the first year...I went in there with that mentality: you're gonna work hard, get your opportunity again." (84:15)
• Discusses toughness and hustle—characteristics that defined his Knicks era.

Post-NBA—Business Ventures:

• Runs car dealerships in NY: "It's been incredible...we get to help people get their first car, or get them through tough situations." (85:00)
• Actively involved in the community.

Cultural Legacy:

• Fame in NY: "I never get tired of that. Never get old. To me, it's the fans…" (87:07)

On Defending Michael Jordan:

• "You never had a question about Jordan...his drive...He didn’t make mistakes. That's what made him so different." (93:28)

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6. Culture, Awards & Business Updates

Nas and Resorts World Casino Expansion (66:49)

• Nas celebrated for partnering in a $5B casino expansion in Queens, creating jobs and being a business pioneer:
  • "Hip-hop music been around for 50-something years, now you're seeing something different...hip hop in the casino world coming together." – Nas (67:41)
• DJ Envy and Charlamagne praise Nas’ investments and low-key business acumen.

Lauren LaRosa Honored at Accelerate Her Awards (22:22, 111:32)

• Lauren is recognized for her career and leadership, praised for inspiration to the next generation.

Diddy Lawsuit & Viral Stories (102:52)

• Diddy denies wild allegations in a civil suit; panel discusses the sensationalism and caution in such stories.

Marriage, Gender Norms, and Talk Shows (108:52)

• Debate over retro TV segments (e.g., Maury’s beauty pageant of “guess the gender”), emphasizing how cultural standards have shifted.

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• Jay-Z on staying real:
  "If you're trying to make young music and you're not young, it's gonna be inauthentic and people could feel that." (29:24)

• Charlamagne on generational clash in hip hop:
  "If you 40-something... trying to relate to 20-somethings... you look lame as hell." (30:18)

• Mariah Carey on recognition:
  "For a long time, people didn't even acknowledge me as a songwriter...I'm a singer songwriter from the very beginning." (32:13)

• John Starks on MJ:
  "You never had a question about Jordan...he didn’t make mistakes. That’s what made him so different." (93:28)

• Charlamagne on men as gold diggers:
  "Men can absolutely be gold diggers...You see them all the time...with those fat white women, those older women..." (56:14)

• Listener Michelle on dating:
  "As women in this day and age...you have to really pay attention to the signs...Men are looking for cougars and at my daughter's age, men are looking for somebody to take care of them." (59:16)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Jay-Z on Aging, Authenticity & The NYT List: 28:04–36:43
• Gold Digger Debate (Men Edition): 45:04–62:17
• John Starks Interview: 80:32–97:09
• Nas Casino Business Segment: 66:49–70:21
• Mariah Carey’s Songwriting Commentary: 32:13–33:42
• Front Page News / TSA & Political Rhetoric: 07:30–14:16

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Tone & Style

The episode maintains The Breakfast Club’s trademark humor, quick wit, authentic language, and intense audience engagement. There is a healthy mix of pop culture references, personal stories, community focus, and playful jabs among the hosts.

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Conclusion

From industry-shaping discussions on hip hop’s evolution and legacy to real talk on relationships in the current economy, plus an unfiltered sports legend interview—this episode is a rich cross-section of Black culture, current events, and candid conversation. The hosts don’t shy away from controversial or complex topics, delivering honest takes and creating a sense of community for their audience through laughter, insight, and support.

Transcript

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[DJ Envy]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wake you up.

[DJ Envy]

Wake that ass up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Program your alarm to power 105.1 on iheartradio Good morning, USA.

[DJ Envy]

Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo,

[Charlamagne Tha God]

yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo.

[DJ Envy]

Jess, Laris will be here in a second. Charlemagne the God.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Peace to the planet. Yeah. Guess what day it is. Guess what day it is. Hump day. How y' all feel out there? I feel blessed, black and highly favored. Happy to be here another day to serve our beautiful listeners. Good morning.

[DJ Envy]

That's right. Good morning. How you feeling out there? What's up, Jess? How you feeling, Jess?

[Jess Hilarious]

I'm good. How are y'?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All?

[DJ Envy]

No, you good.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You ran out of breath.

[DJ Envy]

Yes. Jess's book came out yesterday. And I know you were all type of interviews yesterday, all type of press. How was that?

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, it was great. It was great. Honestly, I did Tamron hall show.

[DJ Envy]

Okay.

[Jess Hilarious]

That was fun. Oh, my God. The way her audience received me, I felt like I was walking out to a comedy show.

[DJ Envy]

Dope.

[Jess Hilarious]

Where I was headlining. Like, it was so dope. Cause, you know, they don't know her guests. They don't know who they're seeing until they're there. You know what I'm saying? So I was like, oh, my God, I hope it's not like a bunch of people who don't know me or who. Man, I walked out. I could have did like a 50 minute set right there. She read the book. It's fire. Every man book is out now, though, so deaf. Do we parent? I'm excited. My husband took me to celebrate the release of it yesterday.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Took me to Mexican restaurant again.

[Jess Hilarious]

He took me to the Crane Club. I don't know. Yeah, you. You know, cuz y you on get. Always be going out with stuff. So. Yes, excellent service. I loved it. It was dope. And then, yo, my husband drove me to Broadway and I forgot the cross street, but I have a. I'm on a billboard. My book. So definitely parent is up. Yo, it was streamers out there. It was like a bunch of just like people of all ages. They were like, that's you. They noticed me. That's you. That's your book. That's your book. People who don't even know who I am, people who do listen to Breakfast Club, people who know me from a while and now it was just like. It was so many people.

[DJ Envy]

That's dope.

[Jess Hilarious]

Oh, my God. So I got bags under my eyes. Cause I was crying. It was just really, really dope.

[DJ Envy]

Dope, dope, dope. Well, congratulations.

[Jess Hilarious]

It's a great release day.

[DJ Envy]

Congratulations.

[Jess Hilarious]

Thank you so much.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let me tell you something. Yesterday I saw an instant classic movie. One of my favorite. It's already one of my favorite movies of all time.

[DJ Envy]

Really?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[DJ Envy]

What movie is this?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's called One spoon of Chocolate.

[DJ Envy]

Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It is a Quentin Tarantino presents film written, directed and produced by the RZA starring Shamik Moore.

[DJ Envy]

Really?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh my God. I watched it twice yesterday.

[Caller/Listener]

Really?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, because I was coming back from Miami yesterday so I watched it on the plane and then I watched it again when I got got home because I had to watch it on the beach.

[DJ Envy]

They said the screen up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They sent me the screen. I don't know.

[DJ Envy]

Did they send you the screen?

[Jess Hilarious]

No, they didn't.

[DJ Envy]

I didn't look.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh my God.

[DJ Envy]

Really?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Listen, it's just my personal taste of all time. I didn't say I didn't stop saying it. I said one of. It's already one of one of my favorite movies of all time.

[DJ Envy]

What would you compare it to?

[Jess Hilarious]

Genre like it's an action action thriller.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Action thriller.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Horror.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. Action action thriller. Horror, yes. Setting a setting. Setting a societal setting. I'll say that.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, they did send it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, see. Oh my God. Let me tell you something. Drop on a clues bomb for Shamik Moore. Oh my God. Listen, it's one of my personal favorite movies. I watched. Like I said, I watched it twice yesterday.

[DJ Envy]

Damn.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's damn near two hours long. Okay, so I spent four hours of my day watching the same.

[DJ Envy]

Well, that's good, that's good because my daughters have dance this weekend. So between their dance I got something I could watch.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Listen, Michael Jackson must want us in theaters because his daughter is in this movie. Really? Yeah, yeah, Paris is in the movie. So Michael Jackson must want us in theaters because he had us in theaters last weekend and now you. Okay, go, go to see one spoon of chocolate this weekend because his daughter is in it. Okay, okay, I'm definitely gonna watch that. I can't even talk to y' all about it because y' all ain't seen it.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I can't talk to nobody about it until they see Jesus.

[DJ Envy]

All right, well, let's get the show cracking. Former NBA player John Starks will be joining us. Former In New York Knicks. He'll be joining us. I think he handles alumni and community relations with the Knicks. He'll be joining us. He also opened up a bunch of car dealerships. And we'll talk to John Starks in a little bit. And then we got front page news. Now today is Master P's birthday We got some.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, the legend P. That's a good way to start.

[DJ Envy]

There we go. All right. There we go. Front page news is up next. Receipt. Talk to me. So don't go anywhere. As Master P. Happy birthday, P. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Jess. Hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page news. Start off with sports. Now, last night, the Knicks beat the Hawks 126.97. The Knicks looked damn good last night.

[Jess Hilarious]

So salute to the Knicks game. Okay. I was like, okay, all right.

[DJ Envy]

Knicks look good last night.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Was watching the game on your date?

[Lauren LaRosa]

No.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yo, we came home, you caught the

[DJ Envy]

end of it then.

[State Farm Announcer]

Yes.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

The end of the game.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah. We had dinner at 6.

[DJ Envy]

Okay.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

The game started at what, 8:00'?

[Caller/Listener]

Clock?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. Okay.

[Jess Hilarious]

It was fine. We were in hours by now.

[DJ Envy]

All right. The 76ers beat the Celtics 113. 97. And the spurs beat the Trailblazers 114. 95. They eliminated the Trailblazers. What's up, Mimi?

[Mimi Brown]

Good morning, Envy. Jess, Charlemagne. How y' all doing this morning?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Mimi Brown.

[Mimi Brown]

Good morning. So we start this morning with the government shutdown and a warning that federal workers are about to miss another paycheck.

[DJ Envy]

Jesus.

[Mimi Brown]

So the standoff, Yep. Over funding for the Department of Homeland Security has now dragged on for more than two months. And the emergency money being used to pay those workers is now about to run out. So that means thousands of federal employees, including TSA agents, Coast Guard members, even the Secret Service, could soon stop getting paid. Now, lawmakers, they have been fighting for weeks over how to fund dhs, but they still do not have a deal. And all of this is happening as tensions in Washington are already running high, especially after this weekend's shooting at the White House Correspondent's Dinner. Now, authorities say that suspect, he was targeting Trump and officials connected to him. And now that incident, it is sparking, though, a larger debate about political rhetoric and who's responsible for the tone. And the White House is going after Charlemagne. You, Charlemagne. After you suggested that President Trump is, quote, the drama. Let's listen to what you have to say about that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because the fact whenever something like this happens to Donald Trump, whenever there is an assassination attempt, whenever there is some type of political violence that happens at, you know, one of these events, people always say, so are we going to tone down the violent rhetoric towards Trump?

[Jess Hilarious]

Stop it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, I'm sick of that narrative. I need every single media personality to direct that energy, and that Question towards one person and one person only. And that person is President Donald J. Trump. At what point do people simply say, hey, Trump, is clear that you're the drama. What'd I say wrong? Oh,

[Jess Hilarious]

so what they say? What they say?

[Mimi Brown]

Well, the White House, they did issue a statement in response to those statements made by Charlemagne saying, quote, vile political rhetoric like this is extremely dangerous and life threatening. It's unhinged commentary like Charlemagne, the gods that inspires political violence. And he should be especially mortified of his words given this weekend's egregious attempt against the president and others in his administration.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know what to tell them. I'll just say what I said before. The Trump administration has caused so much pain to people's everyday lives that some folks are fed up and willing to risk it all. Simple as that. And if you're gonna talk about anybody toning down violent political rhetoric, start with the President, Donald J. Trump.

[DJ Envy]

I'm really so surprised how they dive into what the press says or what media personalities say all the time instead of focusing on what could help the country. Right. What the problems are that people are saying that they don't like what the problems are. The reason for this gentleman not to say that is right, but the reason why he thought he could or he wanted to do that, like the reason why people are stressed out, the reason why people are having problems instead of diving into media personalities and journalists that are critiquing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right. And I want to salute the TSA agents. As I was coming home from Miami yesterday, they wanted me to make sure to tell people they probably won't be getting paid on Friday. You know. You know, you really feel bad because, you know, I be talking to folks, I'm asking them how they doing, and they was like, not good. We're not good because we probably not going to get paid on Friday.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah. Salute. Salute to all the TSA agents. A lot of them been hitting me and they basically said this same thing. They say any little bit of. Of stress reliever will definitely help whatever that is. But they say, no, they're not getting paid and they have bills just like everybody else.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Mimi Brown]

So it sounds like there's bigger problems for the administration to be focused on. Y, like paying people and things like that and going. Switching gears just a little bit. Former FBI Director James Comey. He has been indicted again, but this time over a social media post. So federal prosecutors say a photo he shared of seashells arranged to read 86:47 was a threat against the President. So in case you didn't know, 86 is slang. That can mean get rid of and in some cases apparently kill. While 47 refers to Trump. Here is Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche.

[Caller/Listener]

The grand jury sitting in the Eastern

[Charlamagne Tha God]

District of North Carolina returned an indictment against James Comey on two counts.

[Caller/Listener]

The first count is at honor about May 15th of last year, he knowingly and willfully making a threat to take

[DJ Envy]

the life of and to inflict bodily harm upon the President of the United States. Count to same day, May 15, 2025,

[Charlamagne Tha God]

that the defendant, James Comey, knowingly and willfully transmitting an interstate commerce, a communication that contained a threat to kill the President of the United States.

[Caller/Listener]

Both of these counts carry a maximum

[Charlamagne Tha God]

term of imprisonment of, of 10 years. So he gets indicted for putting the term 86, which means to throw out our discard. But the President can say he's gonna wipe out a whole civilization and there's nothing.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah, yeah. And really quickly, Comey, he, he responded to that. Let's listen really quick what he had to say.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, they're back this time about a picture of seashells on a North Carolina beach a year ago. And this won't be the end of it. But nothing has changed with me. I'm still innocent, I'm still not afraid. And I still believe in the independent federal judiciary. So let's go. And why this? What's this retaliation for, Mimi?

[Mimi Brown]

Well, you know, James Comey was the FBI director that went after President Trump, rightfully so back in the day with the, you know, the Russia investigation and things like that. And so he's, this is the second attempt to prosecute one of his biggest political opponents. And after social seems like. I don't know if you guys should go. Look, it's a social media post with seashells on the beach.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. I just want people to know that this is just pure retaliation and revenge for what James Comey did to Trump.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah. So there you go. That's the first half. And I just wanted to say quickly too, gas prices are going up as of today. Prices are now at their highest level in four years. So if you're feeling it at the pump, you are not imagining it. It is going up. And it's all, of course, tied to the war in Iran. And coming up at 7 new fall this morning in the fight between the White House and late night tv. And now the FCC is stepping in. We'll break down what's happening and why it matters.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's just non stop. I mean, every day he Putting his foot up the American people's ass in some way, shape or form. You just went from gas prices to him weaponizing the FCC against a network and a TV host. Lord have mercy. It don't stop.

[DJ Envy]

All right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Is America great, guys?

[DJ Envy]

Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, phone lines are wide open. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[State Farm Announcer]

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[DJ Envy]

800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Hello?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who's this?

[Caller/Listener]

Shay from Miami, Florida.

[DJ Envy]

What's up, Shay from Miami.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, Shay.

[DJ Envy]

Get off your chest.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Just in Miami yesterday. Yes.

[Caller/Listener]

Hey, Shila. Hey, Jess. Congratulations.

[Jess Hilarious]

Hey, boo. Thank you.

[Caller/Listener]

If Lauren up there. Hey, Lauren. I love all y'. All.

[Jess Hilarious]

She in the back. She can hear you, though.

[Caller/Listener]

I called y' all many years ago when I shot out my city girl, but I ain't called up him for that. I called up him for the Michael movie. I loved it. I love the part, the twist apart, and I love the relationship that he had with Bill. And I just want to say thank y' all for taking my call.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Thank you.

[Caller/Listener]

Congratulations again.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, you talking about Michael Jackson. We talk about the Michael Jackson movie. How does Michael's relationship with Bill, his security guard?

[Jess Hilarious]

Oh, okay. Yes.

[Caller/Listener]

It was beautiful. It was beautiful.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. Some of us ain't seen the movie, man. So I'm like, who the hell is Bill?

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, yeah.

[DJ Envy]

That threw me off at first, but then when she said she talked about the Michael. So Michael security's name was Bill. And if you know Michael's story, Bill, his security guard, was kind of like Michael's father and helping raising him and everything.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I started naming the kids in my head. I was like Randy, Tito, Jermaine, Marlon. I don't remember no goddamn Bill was. Yes.

[Caller/Listener]

Charlemagne. I love you. I always support you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Thank you.

[Caller/Listener]

A lot of flags, but I got your book. That's yours on the way.

[Jess Hilarious]

Thank you, baby.

[Caller/Listener]

DJ Envy. Beautiful family. 305. We still

[Charlamagne Tha God]

grow up.

[Jess Hilarious]

Hey, yo. Well, city women, what's good?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. Grow up. Be a city. Be a city mom.

[Caller/Listener]

I am.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay. Okay.

[Caller/Listener]

I am all the way. And shout out to school bus drivers. We out here.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, school bus drivers.

[DJ Envy]

School bus drivers. All right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You have a good one.

[Caller/Listener]

All right. Thank y'.

[Jess Hilarious]

All.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I went to the ZZ Club in Miami. When I was there, I had a nice dinner. It was dope. At the ZZ Club. Salute to Mario Carbon.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah. One of the cities in New York City's dope, too. Very, very dope. Hello?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who's this?

[Caller/Listener]

Hey, this is Gwen.

[DJ Envy]

Hey, Gwen.

[Caller/Listener]

Good morning.

[DJ Envy]

How you feeling this morning?

[Caller/Listener]

I'm feeling good. I'm so excited. I got through. Good.

[DJ Envy]

Well, get it off your chest, mama.

[Caller/Listener]

Well, I don't really have anything on to get off my chest, but today is my fiance's 35th birthday.

[Jess Hilarious]

I wanted to give him a shout out.

[DJ Envy]

Okay.

[Caller/Listener]

Hey, it's Jess. Is it this?

[Jess Hilarious]

I'm right here, girl. What's up?

[Caller/Listener]

Hey, girl.

[Jess Hilarious]

Hey.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm right here. Peace. How are you?

[Caller/Listener]

I'm doing pretty good. We listen to y' all every single day.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Where you calling from?

[Caller/Listener]

Dallas, Texas.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, how you listen to us on iHeartRadio app?

[Caller/Listener]

Yep.

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay. Yeah, I don't think we own no terrestrial station in Dallas, but thank you.

[Caller/Listener]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let's go, Cowboys.

[Caller/Listener]

His name is Jeremy Jackson. He's 35 today. He's a musician. Y' all can go look him up on Instagram. His Instagram is jeremyjack21. But yes. I'm so excited.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, thank you for calling, man.

[DJ Envy]

Happy birthday to your man, your fiance.

[Caller/Listener]

Thank you.

[DJ Envy]

All righty, mama.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I went to the licking when I was in Florida, too. Drop on the clues bombs for everybody. When I was in Orlando, Orlando and Miami this weekend, I went to the licking. That's why I feel fat today.

[DJ Envy]

Went to licking at ZZ Club.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, I went to the licking on Sunday, and I went to ZZ Club on Monday. Okay.

[Jess Hilarious]

That way I'm not vegan at the licking. Who said not vegan? But, like, first of all, first of

[Charlamagne Tha God]

all, that's how I know you're a licking rookie. Everything they got on the menu, fried. They got grilled. Everything they do.

[Jess Hilarious]

Everything he ate. Like, he don't eat all that stuff that's there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You mean they got grilled food? My favorite thing is the grilled tilapia dinner with the yams and shrink beans and turkey. Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

I do fried lobster tails when I go there. Like, I'm. If I'm going go, I'm going go.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You can get your grill off the tail, too. Salute to my guy. E Class, man. I was. I'd be so happy when I be in Orlando and I go to the licking, because I remember going to the licking years, 13 years ago when they just had the one joint in Miami. Was that opalaka? I think it was.

[DJ Envy]

Yep.

[Jess Hilarious]

That's the one that I like going to.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They. They had. He had the one. E class had the one spot. Now he got like, five.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, that's what's up?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Shoot to my guy. E class, man.

[DJ Envy]

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[DJ Envy]

Hey, Chanel from Tennessee. Tennessee. Tennessee. Tennessee. What's up, Mommy? Get it off your chest.

[Caller/Listener]

Well, I just wanted to thank you guys for such a job well done at the Black Effect Podcast Festival. I was actually there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, thank you for coming.

[Caller/Listener]

Yes, absolutely. And Charlamagne, I did the meet and greet with you and I know you met so many people, but I was there and I told you that I was there supporting my boyfriend's podcast. He had the Shirley sun shirt.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, Shirley Sun. I remember.

[Caller/Listener]

Yes, yes. And Shirley is actually his mother, who is. She has full blown dementia. She's completely bedridden. And he's his. Full. Well, he's her full time caregiver and he has his podcast where he has his guests on his show and they just sit and share stories and talk about different topics. And we just knew we had to go to this podcast festival and meet you. And he's one of your biggest fans, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Thank you.

[Caller/Listener]

He's read all of your books and it just meant so much to him. So I thank you so much for that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Thank y' all for coming. I thought you was about to tell me that he has conversations on the podcast with other people who's. Who have family members that have dementia.

[Caller/Listener]

She said, oh, he's done that before. He's actually done that before. They share different stories.

[DJ Envy]

I'm just trying to share stories.

[Caller/Listener]

So. Yeah, and I just wanted to shout out his podcast too, if I could, please. Yes. So he has the Chop by T podcast where they get real raw and have authentic conversations. Again, that is the top C H O P P E D by T podcast. He just had Dr. Umar on last week.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Dope.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah. And he just dropped part two today or yesterday rather. And so it was a really good conversation. I encourage everyone to check that out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let me ask you a question. What did y' all like the most about the Black Effect Podcast Festival? I'm getting consumer feedback right now.

[Caller/Listener]

Yes. So for him, honestly, he played it so Cool. But he is, like, your biggest fan, so just that small interaction with you meant so much to him. He's read all of your books, but, you know, for me too. I love meeting you, but the food and the vibes, honestly, I'm a foodie, so. The food trucks out there were amazing. I had a lot to do.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, thank you for calling.

[Caller/Listener]

Of course. Thank y'.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All. Absolutely.

[DJ Envy]

Have a good one.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. Salute to all the food trucks. Tropics. I. I messed y' all up. Well, I was eating good this weekend, as I think about it.

[DJ Envy]

Boy, that's what Tropics had.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The jerk chicken with the rice and peas.

[DJ Envy]

That's where they got me. The oxtail for oxtail, rice, and peas. Oh, my goodness.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

O. Oh, my God.

[DJ Envy]

It was so good. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. What's up, Lauren?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Good morning.

[Jess Hilarious]

Good morning, girl.

[Caller/Listener]

Hey.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You look nice today.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I never thought I would say that.

[DJ Envy]

Wow.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You know what it's like? It's like you get a compliment and then put it together, and then it just changes, and you stop at, you look nice today, and I say, thank you. And then the conversation continues.

[Jess Hilarious]

Be the end of it.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm headed to the empower her awards today, and as soon as I land, I'm going right into the thing. So I had to dress best for the success. Yes, I am. I'm getting an empowerment. Yes. You got one. Envy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, is that the same one they called me?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes, it's the same one.

[Jess Hilarious]

You're gonna give her deodorant?

[Lauren LaRosa]

No, let's empower her.

[DJ Envy]

If you going straight down here, I'm gonna give you some of this deodorant, this dub. This will help you out.

[Lauren LaRosa]

My luggage. So I have my own deodorant. You should not share deodorant.

[DJ Envy]

It's my sister.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It's in D.C. no, it's in Miami.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It's in Florida. Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

By the way, that's a big deal. That ain't no joke. That ain't no play play award. That Kamala Harris gonna be there. Who else gonna be there?

[Lauren LaRosa]

I said empower her because that's the. The. Our award that we. That. That we're getting. It's me, Crystal, Renee Haysley, and a few other girls. It's. It's about them empowering, like, the next generation of women that are walking into, like, you know, these, like, big rooms. But it's accelerate her, but Kamala Harris will be there. It's a ton of people shout out to Kim Blackwell Angela Rye. Who championing me for. For this. So I'm excited. I'll be there for two days and I'll get to see Kamala speak. So I'm gonna bring someone back onto the show.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. Last year, I think they had Tyler Perry, Katanji Brown Jackson.

[Mimi Brown]

Yes.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yep. Tyler Perry, I think might still be involved in some way this year.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nominating your big head ass for.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It's called.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What kind of.

[DJ Envy]

What kind of compliment is that?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Like, he just don't know how to

[DJ Envy]

like, you look good for once.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Like, what the heck we're receiving. So it's the class of 2026, the accelerate, her bossy award honorees.

[DJ Envy]

So these are, like, people that are

[Lauren LaRosa]

kind of, like, disrupting right now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Crystal Renee Hasley.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, there's a bunch of other women too, or three other women that are on that with us, and I just don't know their names, so excuse me. Well, congrats, but that's why I'm dressed up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes.

[DJ Envy]

Well, you got the ladies coming up. What we talking about?

[Lauren LaRosa]

We do. So Jay Z, he made The New York Times 30 Greatest Writers of all times list, but they had him sit down for an exclusive interview, and he's talking about making it to the other side of hip hop and what that should sound like. So we're gonna get into it.

[DJ Envy]

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[Lauren LaRosa]

All?

[DJ Envy]

It's DJ Envy from the Breakfast Club. Now check this out. The first phone call that ever happened happened over 150 years ago. 150 years. That's before any of this. Before radio, before social media, before all the ways we stay connected. Today. That one call really started everything. And fast forward to now. It's springtime, the weather's breaking, people outside vibes are right again. Thank God. And it got me thinking. Who haven't you talked to in a minute? And you know, through all these years and all these conversations at&t has been there, connecting people in meaningful ways. This is more than a story of technological innovation. It's really a story about human connection, real people, real moments and real relationships. So we celebrate over 150 years of connection. Let this be your reminder. Don't wait. Make that call. Send that text. Pull up on somebody you care about. Because at the end of the day, those connections, that's what really matters.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Connecting changes everything.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

@&t your talk. Ll cool babe.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, I'm not dumbing myself down. I'm being myself. I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything and everything. Little brown girls look at you and go, I want to be like you.

[Caller/Listener]

Take me through that.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Take me through there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The latest with Lauren

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

LL Cool Baby, talk to me.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So the New York Times dropped their list of the 30 greatest living American songwriters. Jay Z is on this list along with Stevie Wonder, Taylor Swift, Missy Elliott, Lionel Richie, Dolly Parton, Young Thug, Babyface, Outkast, Mariah Carey, Kendrick Lamar, the Dream, Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis, Bad Bunny, Smokey Robinson, Lana Del Del Rey, and there's a few others there as well, too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I want to know. I want to know how they came to the conclusions about that list. Because, respectfully, how does Young Thug get on that list? I like Young Thug. I'm just saying the greatest living songwriters in American history. That means all genres and not just.

[DJ Envy]

Not just the last couple of years.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You're talking about forever.

[DJ Envy]

Forever. I love Thug, but Doug over Nas. You know what I mean?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I just talking rap. So many different people from so many different genres who write incredibly. I'm just. I just want to know, how did they come to the conclusion about Thug?

[Lauren LaRosa]

So we can get into that. But before we get there, I want to talk about. Because they did a few exclusive interviews with some of the people from the list, including Mariah Carey, Babyface, and Jay Z. I want to get into some of that audio. So they sit down, they have a conversation with Jay Z, and they're talking through some of the songs that he's written and just like, career things. And he talks a lot about making it to the other side of hip hop as you age. Let's take a listen to Jay Z on fighting against the future.

[J]

I tell people all the time, never fight against the future. Future's coming. Artists, they were trying to recreate something that was already done, but they're not connected to it like that. They're not living it and breathing it. They were fighting against gravity as opposed to telling their story. We needed that other side. We needed to hear about what happens when you've had four successful albums. How do you make the next one? How did you get in the studio? How are your kids? How do you interact with them as this hip hop dad? But if you're trying to make young music and you're not young, it's gonna be inauthentic and people could feel that. So the best thing that anyone can do like going through music is to tell a story. I love what the clips are doing right now and how it's authentic to them. And they're telling the story about their mom and dad who just passed away and how deep that is with John Legend singing on the chorus. And like it's an authentic display.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What Jay z said is 100% true. And it doesn't just apply to music. Like that's a life lesson. Like you have a lot of older people who feel like they have to appeal to the youth. And if you 40 something still trying to relate to 20 somethings by acting like you 20 something and talking like you 20 something and moving like you 20 something. Yes. You look lame as hell. Okay.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And. And he also, he talks about some of the things that like he let go as he got older. Let's take a listen to Jay Z on. Let's take a listen to the second Jay Z audio.

[J]

My locations have changed, but who I am in as a person and what I believe in, none of that's changed. Things I believe to be true. Maybe young. I don't believe so much. You know, a lot of street codes and things like that may mess with our emotional intelligence.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Money over hoes.

[J]

That's a terrible concept. It sound good. So, yeah, some of those things change. But the foundation of the struggle. I'll fight to be recognized in a country that doesn't see us in that light. Those themes and emotions, I still try to convey them.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He's right. Like, show me growth. Talk to me about fatherhood. Talk to me about being a husband. Talk to me about the work you've done on yourself to be a better man. And what's crazy is those youngins will rock with you anyway. If you were just true to yourself, if you really growing and evolving and showing people what the other side of life looks like gracefully, then those young people will, you know, they'll look up to you. Young folks are always looking for someone to aspire to be like, they can't have that. If all the OGs is out here acting like this.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, very much so now Mariah Carey is also on the list. And they sat down for an interview with Mariah Carey. And I was.

[Jess Hilarious]

It was.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I was actually interested in hearing a lot of what she said because I didn't know. I mean, when I think of Mariah Carey, I instantly think of her as like, a person that puts together her whole Persona, from the writing to the branding to, you know, everything. But she says that a lot of people don't mention her as a songwriter. And that's like, one of the things that, like, gets to her. Let's take a listen to Mariah Carey on songwriter.

[Mimi Brown]

I feel like for a long time,

[Jess Hilarious]

people didn't even acknowledge me as a songwriter. But also, I want to pay tribute to the people who do make me feel like I'm worthy. Yeah, I hate it. I mean, it's obvious. I've said it many times. I'm a singer songwriter.

[Mimi Brown]

I'm a singer songwriter from the very beginning of my career.

[Jess Hilarious]

But it's still hard for me to say, yeah, I think I'm so good at songwriting. See, if I said something like that, that would make me sound arrogant and I don't want.

[Mimi Brown]

I do believe that I'm a seasoned

[Jess Hilarious]

songwriter and we've had hits and all the things, but I'm not sure exactly how to say, okay, this is what

[Mimi Brown]

I need them to tell me as

[Jess Hilarious]

a songwriter so that I feel better

[Mimi Brown]

about myself because people hate on me,

[Jess Hilarious]

therefore I need to have a pat on the back.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, if you got 19 number one singles, I mean, I'm like, Mariah Carey has 19 number one singles. She clearly knows a little, Knows how to do something with her pen.

[DJ Envy]

But I wonder what the songwriter is it also getting help, right? Because we know beyond Deontay's a songwriter. We know Nas is a songwriter. We know J. Cole is a songwriter. Right. Drake is a songwriter. Although he does get help in times.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But he's not American, though. I said American. Greatest American. Yeah, he's Canadian. I got a Canadian tuxedo on right now, by the way.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You do?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But yes, he's not American.

[DJ Envy]

But you know, Nas, Beyonce and some of those other J. Cole. Some of those other people that, you know, have a pen game. I'm just curious how they didn't make the list of what decided who made the list?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Jermaine Dupri.

[DJ Envy]

Jermaine Dupri.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So I'll go through. So now we can.

[DJ Envy]

Dupri's whole team, Ryan Michael Cox and.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And Mariah Carey talks. Mariah Carey talks about Jermaine Dupree a lot in her. Her interview, but. So the New York Times Magazine list of 30 greatest living American songwriters is composed by over 200. The polling of over 200 music industry insiders, including artists, critics, historians, producers, who submit ballots with over 700 nominees. So there are six critics who then debate these nominations to select a finally unranked list. And they have a list of who the critics are. So you have expert polling that this break and two. So these ballots were sent to hundreds of experts across the music industry. You have debate and selection, which is done by the Times critics. Once they gather down the final 30, you have a definition of a songwriter. So the list heavily favors artists, songwriters, recording artists who write their own material and have achieved significant commercial success in the industry.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What about if you get help with the writing? Because a lot of these artists, especially the R B artists, and not even just R B artists, the rappers, Drake, they get help with the writing as well.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, even Taylor Swift went in her interview. She talks about how when she's in the studio, she's making songs.

[Caller/Listener]

Songs.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It's not about just her ideas. Whoever has the best idea, she's willing to go for it. So she even kind of. She admits that in her interview.

[DJ Envy]

No disrespect. Like, even Thug. How do you pick Thug over TI

[Charlamagne Tha God]

yes, where is Thugs? I need to hear Thug's interview. And this, like I said, no knock the Thug whatsoever. I just don't think Pin Game listed right now.

[Lauren LaRosa]

There's no video interview for Young Thug, but on the actual website of the list, they talk about how whether or not hip hop should be melodic. And they talk about how Young Thug and his sound helped to structure hip hop as being melodic in his era. Because in the early years, people weren't really for sure and more than future in this era. And it says that the uncertainty became a tug of war between rap verses and things that were sung often sample hooks. So they're talking about, I guess, like the influence that they feel like Young Thug has had.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But also melodic is sound. I'll give Thug that all day when it comes to sound. But we talking about writing.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, yeah, right

[Charlamagne Tha God]

again, the pen is two different things.

[DJ Envy]

I'm not mad at him on the list, but I think there's other artists that prove themselves a lot more right. Like ti for example. Like ti has done this, what a decade and 20 years and any. And at this age, he has a number one hit. Like, you gotta put those people in on there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I just want to know how they

[Jess Hilarious]

came to the Canadian tuxedo is what you have.

[DJ Envy]

Denim, denim, denim on denim, Denim on denim on denim on denim.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes. Well, yeah, I mean, if you guys want to check that out, you can go watch those interviews on the Times website. But congratulations to the people that, you know, did make the, you know, the list.

[Jess Hilarious]

So when Canadians get married, they wear denim like the groom. Like they wear denim now.

[DJ Envy]

It's just their term. That jean suit is. They call it a Canadian.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Tell deaf do we parent a book available everywhere now. I know, I know, I know, I know it doesn't sound like she probably could write a book, but tell deaf do we parent by Jess Liars.

[Jess Hilarious]

Wow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Shar out right now.

[DJ Envy]

Even LL Cool J as a writer,

[Lauren LaRosa]

like, I think there's a lot of people you could argue on this list.

[DJ Envy]

All right, well, yes, that is the latest with Lauren. Now when we come back, we got front page news. You got Thug TI Ain't about the money. Let's get that on. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get back in some front page news. Now, some quick sports. Last night, the spurs eliminated the Trail blazers. They won 114.95. 76ers beat the Celtics 113 97. The Knicks. What happened? Atlanta. Huh? What happened? Atlanta, they beat the hawks last night 126 to 97.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Now you don't, don't, don't get too cocky. The Knicks can nick.

[DJ Envy]

You right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right.

[DJ Envy]

You right. That's why I didn't want to say it, but they've been talking to me crazy the last couple. I just, just want to talk back. What's up, Mimi?

[Mimi Brown]

Good morning, guys. How y' all doing this morning? Good morning. So we start this hour with a major media showdown involving the White House, late night TV and federal regulators. So the FCC is now stepping into the fight between the Trump administration and Jimmy Kimmel. So the agency has ordered Disney, the parent company of abc, to file early license renewals for all age of its TV stations. Now, those licenses, they were not due until 2028. But now Disney has 30 days to start the process. Now, the move comes after Melania Trump and President Trump, they publicly called on Jimmy Kimmel to be fired over a joke he made about the first lady on his late night show. Let's remind ourselves about that joke.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Our first lady, Melania is here.

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[Mimi Brown]

Okay, that was a joke. Well, the fcc. They're trying to say that the review has nothing to do with that, but it, it stems from an earlier investigation into diversity, equity and inclusion. Last month, FCC chair Brendan Carr suggested that Disney support of DEI programs and their hiring practices could cost them their licenses. But critics, including other FCC members, say this looks like retaliation. Ana Gomez, yes, is the only Democratic commissioner of the three on the committee. And this is what she had to say about all of this. Let's listen.

[Lauren LaRosa]

This is the most egregious assault on

[Mimi Brown]

the First Amendment that we have seen from this fcc. It is unprecedented, it is unlawful, and it is bound to fail.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And I'm glad to see that Disney is going to push back because it

[Mimi Brown]

has the First Amendment on its side. Well, it would be a shame if anybody gives in because capitulation does not

[Lauren LaRosa]

actually lead to protection.

[Mimi Brown]

We have learned this in multiple instances. Capitulation leads to more demands from this administration. So what we need is for broadcasters and networks like Disney and ABC to push back and to stand up for the First Amendment.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because you know that right there, this whole situation is actually why no media personality who cares about the First Amendment should have been at that White House Correspondent's dinner. Like, why are you sitting down playing nice within an administrator, within an administration that's literally trying to destroy the institution of media? How you there listening to people trade light jokes, you know, about a regime that is literally trying to reshape broadcasting. They threaten to revoke your license whenever you don't cover President Trump in a positive light. They threaten to revoke licenses over Iran war reporting. You know what I mean? So it's like, how can you sit there and joke with a president who does not care about the First Amendment? Literally threatening your livelihood in the institution you love so much? Much.

[Mimi Brown]

Yes. And we do know this isn't the first time that they've threatened to pull Jimmy Kimmel off the air or threatened ABC at all. So, but here's the reality. This, this does not shut down ABC overnight. But forcing an early review like this, it is extremely rare. And it can trigger a long, expensive legal fight that could drag on for years. But the stations would get to stay on while that legal fight plays on. So we will continue to watch what happens as the FCC now once again

[Charlamagne Tha God]

goes after late night tv, weaponizing government institutions just because you got your feelings hurt by a joke. But we don't have no checks and balances for him. That's the sad part. Checks and balances for everybody but him.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah, true. Very, very true. And earlier, I Don't know if it was last week, maybe. We talked about Spirit Airlines wanting to use your tax dollars for a bailout. Do you guys remember that?

[DJ Envy]

Yes.

[Mimi Brown]

Okay, well, now it's not just them. A group that represents discounted airlines, so including Spirit, Frontier, Allegiant, Sun, Country Breeze, they are now all asking the federal government for a $2.5 billion bailout in federal aid. That's on top of the $500 million that Spirit is asking for to stay afloat. So all of this, this additional bailout will come out of your pocket. They want it through a taxpayer dollars. These airlines say they need to help. They need the help because jet fuel prices are surging and discount carriers argue that they can't raise their ticket prices without losing customers. So they warn that without support, cheap flights could disappear and prices will go up across the board. So the bottom line is people could end up paying one way or the other, either through high ticket prices or through your tax dollars to help keep these airlines in the air fair.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What makes them think taxpayers got the money? Yeah, that's crazy. When you got the multi billionaire company saying we ain't got it, but you think that the everyday working class person got it.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah. When you look at it like that and then you know, we're not going to raise fairs, but we want your money, your taxpayer monies. I mean, hitting me at both ends, it really doesn't matter.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

One day corporate America gonna look up and be like, damn, man, we ain't got no. There's no more taxpayer dollars to rely on. On. People ain't making no money to tax.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

I mean, they'll just take it directly from your check at that point. I mean, you got no job.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah. Like if you don't.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I ain't got no money. I ain't got no job.

[DJ Envy]

That make you say your house. I mean, that is so foul the way they do people, isn't it?

[Mimi Brown]

Isn't it just force you to pay for something like this?

[Caller/Listener]

Right.

[Mimi Brown]

And lastly, so have you guys heard the term? Of course. You have heard the term gold digger.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah, of course.

[Jess Hilarious]

Don't be asking us nothing crazy like that.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I mean, I have to ask, maybe someone hasn't heard it, but when you

[Mimi Brown]

think of the term, do you think of a man or you think of a woman?

[Jess Hilarious]

A woman.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, definitely a woman.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Okay.

[Jess Hilarious]

All right.

[Mimi Brown]

Well, most people have that idea, right? Most people think that gold diggers are usually women, but a new study says that's not the full story. So researchers found that men do it Too. And in some cases are worse than women researchers. They ask people a simple question. Would you rather date date someone rich but unreliable or broke but loyal? And a lot of, a lot of people, including men, they leaned toward the money. So the study found that people who go after money in relationships, they tend to be narcissistic, more focused on status, and more likely to use charm to get what they want. And when it comes to the ladies, the study found that men can come off sweet and thoughtful. So you end up ignoring those red flags. But the whole time, they are just motivated by money. So the study says, in conclusion, gold digging isn't about a gender. It is about a mindset.

[J]

Why?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why a man got to be nar. A narcissist? Because he knows his worth. Know your worth. King this PP not free, okay? Why you letting the woman get the milk but not buy the cow?

[Jess Hilarious]

Huh?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Huh?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I thought, I thought, I thought. It ain't tricking if the person was worth it. Why, why can't a man, you know, I mean, sit back and say to himself, you know what? I want somebody with some money. I don't want no bum ass chicken chick who's broke and can't afford nothing. Why can't a man have that conversation? Why would he does it? He's a narcissist. But when a woman does it, that's. It's okay.

[DJ Envy]

Man can do.

[Jess Hilarious]

I agree, too.

[DJ Envy]

Absolutely.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's why I used to always tell women all of these. When women, he's like, I want me a rich man. Blah, blah, blah. You ain't even rich. Hey, how you, how you looking down upon people? Are you looking down on people? But you don't even got what you looking for.

[Mimi Brown]

Very, very interesting.

[DJ Envy]

Mimi didn't say she agrees. She just said, very, very interesting.

[Mimi Brown]

Very, very interesting. I don't, you know, I just, I just want to put it out there that men can be gold diggers, too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's it.

[Lauren LaRosa]

That's all.

[DJ Envy]

In this day and age, men need gas money right now. So they.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, everybody hurt.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Everybody hurt.

[Jess Hilarious]

Gold forever.

[Mimi Brown]

Everybody. Everybody can. Everybody needs a little something right now. All right, y'. All. Well, that is your front page news. I'm Mimi Brown. Follow me @mimi Brown TV. And for more stories, follow the Black Information Network.

[DJ Envy]

Thank you, Mimi.

[Caller/Listener]

Thank you, girl.

[Mimi Brown]

Thank you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Peace, Mimi.

[DJ Envy]

All right, well, let's open up the phone lines. 800-585-1051. I guess the question is, can men be gold diggers? Now, you talked about just a relationship where you was talking to A guy with no arms or no legs.

[Jess Hilarious]

It was my sugar daddy. Oh, yeah. He was a. A veteran. And he didn't. He had arms. He didn't. He had legs too. Yo, they just didn't work.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, I think we have to define what a gold digger is.

[Jess Hilarious]

He tries it, right? Because the sugar daddies, they offering to go, they already know what this setup is. They know the situation. Situation. Like a gold digger is somebody who dates anybody. Like I feel like anybody.

[DJ Envy]

You gotta be old.

[Jess Hilarious]

You don't gotta be a sugar daddy.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, provide that lifestyle for you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The diff. The definition online says a person who initiates or maintains a romantic relationship primarily for financial gain rather than affection. They seek to acquire money. Gifts are a lavish lifestyle from a wealthier partner. Often you often using tactics like requesting expensive gifts. Loans are allowances. So they ain't got nothing to do with no type of love or nothing.

[DJ Envy]

So just. You're just selling the pee pee. That's all you are.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Strictly paper.

[DJ Envy]

Okay?

[Caller/Listener]

All right.

[DJ Envy]

800-585-1051. Can men be gold diggers?

[Caller/Listener]

Let's discuss.

[DJ Envy]

It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[Caller/Listener]

It's topic time.

[DJ Envy]

Call 800-585-1051 to join into the discussion

[Charlamagne Tha God]

with the Breakfast Club.

[DJ Envy]

More. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlamagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. If you're just joining us, we open up the phone lines. 800-585-1051. I guess the question we're asking, can men be gold diggers? Now, this conversation comes from Mimi, who was doing front page news and saying that a new study is showing that more and more men are dating for money.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Broke, y'.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All.

[Jess Hilarious]

It's hard out here.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And there's a huge difference between a gold digger and a person who wants somebody financially well off. I don't fault anyone for wanting someone who's financially well off. But I'm also a person who still believes people are with folks because they actually love them. You know what I mean? But there's a difference between a gold digger and just somebody who wants somebody who's financially well off. So to answer the question, can men be gold diggers? Yes. All of these men that's out here dating, you know, these fat white women or these old, these old, you know, 70 year old, 80 year old white women, you know what I mean? They doing it for the check. They doing it for room and board.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, I think it's.

[Jess Hilarious]

Room and board is crazy. I think people.

[DJ Envy]

I think people have been Doing it for a long time. More and more people are doing it now, probably because of the situation with the economy. But, yeah, I think people can. I don't think it's right. Because what is it. What is that relationship? Because it's built off of nothing. It's built off of finances.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right.

[DJ Envy]

And if I lose. If I lose my job or I lose the finances, then you out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, it's a transaction.

[Jess Hilarious]

Wow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I'm. And that. That old person or that fat woman will just pay for somebody else.

[DJ Envy]

You did something for some chicken wings one time, right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I ain't do nothing for no goddamn chicken wings.

[Jess Hilarious]

Chicken wings is crazy.

[DJ Envy]

So you said that the lady left chicken wings on you on the.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

On the counter. First of all, where. Okay. In my much, much, much, much younger years, okay, when I was in my 20s, it was. Or 40 something. Damn near 50 something. And yes, she gave me $3,000 and some fried chicken wings and some Twinkies

[DJ Envy]

and a car service.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay?

[DJ Envy]

Respect that. Let's respect that little pb.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, man.

[Jess Hilarious]

Hey, yo.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I made her feel. I made her feel young again when I was younger.

[Jess Hilarious]

Shaking your ass for chicken.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know about the rest of y', all, but I can't. I can't. Came up. I don't know about the rest of y', all. You know what I'm saying? One day I might tell that story. Maybe not, but.

[DJ Envy]

Did you put in the paper towel when she gave it to you?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, she put in a bag. It was a. A Ziploc bag. So it was like a sandwich bag. So the Twinkies and the fried chicken in the sandwich bag and the $3,000. And she was like, oh, and I got you a car service.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, she was older.

[DJ Envy]

Well, there's a lot of people on the line that want to discuss. 800585 151. You didn't feel away like. Like, oh, my gosh, $3,000 between.

[Jess Hilarious]

Eat some chicken wings, man.

[DJ Envy]

She wanted him out the house. I don't know if you realize that. Like, get him now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And. And you want me to do. Be crying on Instagram.

[DJ Envy]

Hello? Who's this?

[Caller/Listener]

Hello, this is Courtney.

[DJ Envy]

Hey, Courtney. Good morning. Where you calling from, Courtney?

[Caller/Listener]

Good morning. Follow me. I'm calling from Georgetown, South Carolina.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, 843. What's happening? Georgetown.

[DJ Envy]

So we talk about, can men. Can men be gold diggers, Mama?

[Caller/Listener]

Yes, they can. So I am 32 years old, and I am single and dating. I've had several guys ask me for money.

[DJ Envy]

Did you give it to them?

[Caller/Listener]

No, I am a single mother. I'm not giving them anything. And it was only within like, several months of me knowing them.

[DJ Envy]

But did they supply the penis?

[Caller/Listener]

No, we're not. We're not doing it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What do you do for a living, man? How do you know you got money?

[Caller/Listener]

I work at a doctor's office.

[Jess Hilarious]

Oh.

[Caller/Listener]

And I don't know why they assumed that I would just randomly send them money with us just knowing each other. That's weird. And I've heard it's very calming now for me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, listen, times are hard out here. You know, men got to do what they got to do.

[Caller/Listener]

Times are hard for us too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That is true.

[Caller/Listener]

Why would we just send them random money?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That is very true.

[DJ Envy]

He picked the wrong one. He probably should have picked somebody that make a little more that would have no problem giving it to them. That's what he should have did then.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah, maybe. Yeah. He needs to go pick them ones that. Making that type of salary.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Respectfully, how. How much do you weigh? Respectfully?

[DJ Envy]

Oh, boy.

[Jess Hilarious]

Oh, my God.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, boy.

[Caller/Listener]

How much do I. Charlemagne. How much did I weigh? I weigh like 165.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How tall are you?

[Caller/Listener]

I am five eight.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know. Yeah, I don't know why they asking you for more.

[DJ Envy]

That's not bad. Thank you, mama. That's not that bad. Hello, who's this? What's your name?

[Caller/Listener]

Steph.

[DJ Envy]

Steph from PA Talk to us. What's your thoughts, brother?

[Caller/Listener]

Hold on, hold on, hold up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Drop the clue bomb for me. This is my first time getting through.

[Caller/Listener]

Let's drop the clue bomb for.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's not. That's not clue bomb worthy, sir. Yeah, we don't even know.

[DJ Envy]

We don't even know what you're saying yet, sir.

[Jess Hilarious]

Just drop a clu bomb for me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, cuz that's my first time through. No, that's not. Clues bomb with me, sir.

[DJ Envy]

Yo, you a gold digger, sir?

[Caller/Listener]

No, no, no.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But I believe man could be gold digger, though, 100%. Especially in this, this, this, this era that we living in. Yes.

[Caller/Listener]

I feel like that's another reason why I'm.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm aware of people like Evan Federline. You know, I'm not saying he was, but you know how he got back.

[Jess Hilarious]

Absolutely.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, he was a dancer for Britney. I think they actually liked each other. I, I think that, you know, a gold digger is a person who's literally strictly with a. A person for financial gain and nothing else.

[Jess Hilarious]

Kevin was big playing with Britney though, so I get what you saying.

[DJ Envy]

But.

[Jess Hilarious]

But even if he wants.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They got married.

[Caller/Listener]

They get married.

[Jess Hilarious]

No, but, like, he just. I ain't think they was married.

[DJ Envy]

What about JLo's dance? Like, cuz JLo's dancer, it feels like he was never going to be a husband. He was just always going to be.

[Jess Hilarious]

JLO married a dancer? One of her dancers?

[DJ Envy]

No, but she was with the dance at one time.

[Jess Hilarious]

I don't know.

[DJ Envy]

What's the guy's name? Oh, she married him?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. Kevin and Britney got married. I don't know about. First of all, if you got. Let's talk about JLO for a second. If you getting with JLo, it don't matter about no goddamn money. That's JLo. She's beautiful. Money.

[DJ Envy]

Hello? Who's this?

[Caller/Listener]

Hello, Good morning. This is Harlem rock star.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, good morning, rockstar. I heard from you in a minute. I mean, I see you on Instagram around.

[Caller/Listener]

How y' all doing? Good morning, Charlotte J. What's up, y'? All?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What's happening?

[DJ Envy]

Talk to us. What's your thoughts?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You don't know nothing about no men being gold diggers. You a whole stud.

[Caller/Listener]

Hold on. But let me tell y' all something real quick. Men can absolutely be stubborn studs. And I'm gonna tell y' all why. Men ask me all the time to hook them up with women. Specifically women that have money knowing that they don't got it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Got you guys. You said men can be studs. You meant gold digging. Yeah, I was confused.

[DJ Envy]

I was like, making these studs.

[Caller/Listener]

Gosh.

[Jess Hilarious]

Don't tell them that.

[Caller/Listener]

As a matter of fact, y', all let me tell y'.

[Jess Hilarious]

All.

[Mimi Brown]

Right.

[Caller/Listener]

Shout out to Jess, because I saw Jess and her husband. We were. Me and my cousin was standing next to you in the. In the front row. My cousin had on the all white.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Where at.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Where were we?

[DJ Envy]

Tyrese concert.

[Caller/Listener]

The R B concert.

[Jess Hilarious]

Absolutely. What's up, boo?

[Caller/Listener]

So during the intermission, I'm going to the bathroom. This dude stops me. He's like, yo, this is lit. I'm having a good time. So I'm like, yeah, okay. He's like, yeah, Shorty paid for everything.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm.

[Caller/Listener]

I'm only here because she. She be paying for everything. So I'm like, okay, that's. That's what's up. Like, but yes, men can absolutely be gold diggers. And I feel like, like, men be more gold diggers than the women.

[Jess Hilarious]

What was you doing in the men's bathroom talking to him, though?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She's.

[Caller/Listener]

No, no. See, just. I ain't say I was in the men's bathroom.

[DJ Envy]

She said on her way to the bathroom, you just heard that she was in the bathroom.

[Caller/Listener]

Don't do me like that.

[Jess Hilarious]

Don't stand up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She think you be walking around with your scrap on. That's what she think.

[Caller/Listener]

No, I'm not. No, I'm not one of those. I'm not one of those.

[Jess Hilarious]

But he a clown though.

[DJ Envy]

He is a clown.

[Caller/Listener]

All right.

[Jess Hilarious]

But that was a clown, cuz he, he didn't her and he just straight up told her that out of nowhere

[DJ Envy]

it's two dudes talking. Like he felt the dude energy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Still though, like, tell nobody that I wish you didn't hang up on her. I guarantee you she looked at them and they probably look like a couple that don't need to be together, you know what I'm saying? It's always, you can always tell. You can always tell. It's usually a fat white girl. Okay. With a pretty decent looking black guy. You like, damn, what's going on there? Really older white woman, like really older, like 70 something, yo. You know what's on with a younger black man and you like, what the hell's going on here?

[Jess Hilarious]

It was definitely a little bit of everybody in that show too. Like the bus running everywhere.

[DJ Envy]

You know what? Cause at the comedy show, sitting front row, there was a younger brother. He looked like he was like 24, 25 and he had like a 70, 65 year old white woman. And it just didn't look right to the point that we put him on the screen and was like, what's up? And he said it. He was like, yo, this is my sugar mom. He was like, she takes care of me and I take care of her.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You see what I'm saying?

[DJ Envy]

And he said that clearly.

[Jess Hilarious]

But nah, you. She was right. It was a lot of them little couples and in the front on vip, like right there at the front of the stage.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And you gonna see a lot more of that, man. Grand Theft Auto is coming out this year. There's a lot of these concert tickets. Like these young boys got these young boys trying to come up, man.

[DJ Envy]

If you're just joining us, we're talking about can guys be gold diggers, right? That means guys dating for money, not for love for money. Because it's so effed up out there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Have you ever looked up the definition of what a gold digger is? Or do we just know what it is? Because I looked it up this morning and I just thought it was interesting. A person typically described in popular culture as a woman who Forms romantic relationships with a wealthy person, usually a man, solely for money gifts are financial gain rather than affection. Men can absolutely be gold diggers. And as I've been saying all morning, you see them all the time. Especially those. Those fat white women that be with them. Young, you know, black brothers sometimes, you know, even grown black brothers are the older white women with the younger black brothers.

[DJ Envy]

It's getting bad out there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Those guys are gold.

[DJ Envy]

It's getting bad out there. People need to pay their bills. They need to pay their mortgage. They need to pay their auto.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

6 coming out this fall.

[Jess Hilarious]

Bro, talk about the guys. It's a whole bunch of guys that like to date the handicapped Girls, too.

[DJ Envy]

I never seen that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I ain't never seen it.

[Jess Hilarious]

Because they get a check.

[Caller/Listener]

For real.

[DJ Envy]

Where you find them at?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You did that? Yeah. You dated a handicap guy. Don't try to put that on no, man.

[Jess Hilarious]

No, they do.

[DJ Envy]

Yo, but do you think it'll ever get bad where people be like, you know what? I'm just gonna be gay for money? Like, you know what I mean?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, you did that in the 90s. Well, at least he did it in

[Jess Hilarious]

the 90s and not now because everybody would know now.

[DJ Envy]

I didn't do that. I didn't do that. I wasn't. I. You know what?

[Caller/Listener]

Hello?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who's this bad boy?

[DJ Envy]

Oh, man, you make me feel so good.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Reminisce, baby, reminisce.

[DJ Envy]

Hello, who's this? Chuck. Help me, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's Chuck from Detroit, man.

[DJ Envy]

Chuck, now. Now, you be hollering at the sugar mamas. You. You a gold digger, Chuck?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I wouldn't say I'm a gold digger, man. I just like sugar mamas, man. Ever since they changed the rate of pay. And it's equal for women. Why not? I've been pumping in money for years. The woman taking the women on drugs strips for what? For they just to change up and get something else. So let me sugar. That's why I got a sugar mama now. Gold digging. I don't think I say it's gold digging. I think gold digging is somebody just looking for money. Are you. Honestly?

[Lauren LaRosa]

That's the way.

[Jess Hilarious]

That's what you just heard.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Do you like your sugar mama? Do you actually like her? Do you have feelings for her?

[Caller/Listener]

I actually do.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, okay, okay. How old is she? I'm 30. I'm sorry. I'm 41. How old is she? She's 57. 57, okay. Yeah, yeah. You out here. You out here with an older woman for sure.

[DJ Envy]

So what's the most.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What's the my time here, man.

[Jess Hilarious]

But do she look good though?

[DJ Envy]

Hell no.

[Caller/Listener]

See, she together.

[DJ Envy]

What's the biggest thing she bought you by?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She about to put money in there herself to get her body done.

[Caller/Listener]

I ain't in all that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nah, tell her don't do that. Tell her don't do that. Tell her keep that old school Chevy the way it is, man.

[DJ Envy]

What's the biggest thing she bought you, brother? What's the biggest thing she bought you, Chuck?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Paid vacations. Trips to Jamaicans in Bahamas and Paris, bro. You see in the Caribbean, you see it all the time.

[DJ Envy]

Yes, you do.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what, that's what the young boys try to go duck off with their older sugar mamas. And she was white?

[Caller/Listener]

No, she black.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, you a legend. Oh, this guy called him a legend. No, because when you 57 year old black woman is. That's, that's amazing. I know she still look good. Yeah, you already know black don't crack, baby. See, yeah, this is different. I'm not mad at you cuz you said you like her too, so I can't say that.

[Jess Hilarious]

You gold digger. You got to own it though. He is a gold digger.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He's a gold digger.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Thank you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, man, I don't know if you like her about the guy with no arms and legs.

[Jess Hilarious]

No.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right.

[Jess Hilarious]

But look this how you know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Look, look, look.

[Jess Hilarious]

If all that went away, she lost whatever all the money she had, she wasn't able to do for you anymore,

[DJ Envy]

would you still like her?

[Jess Hilarious]

Would you be with her?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Just like if the same thing with a man, things will change. You feel me? Damn. All his money and could provide the same way. Things will change. Yeah, you gold diggy. Here, gold diggy. You gold diggy.

[DJ Envy]

Hello.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who's this?

[Jess Hilarious]

About to get the body done for him and all that.

[Caller/Listener]

Good morning to all of you. I am Michelle. Hello, beautiful people.

[DJ Envy]

Good morning, Michelle. Thank you, Michelle. We talk about, can men be gold

[Caller/Listener]

diggers opportunity or gold diggers, Right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Correct, ma'.

[Caller/Listener]

Am. As women in this day and age, and yeah, I'm 55, you have to really pay attention to the signs. And they're there. So I dated the men where all my car's in the shop. Negro, you never had a car. I dated the men that came over. I don't have any money for this. Can you give me money for that? And I'm not going to say I never paid for anything because I absolutely didn't. You know, I'm one of those independent women. You pay one day, I pay the Next. But when it gets to the point where that's all you're doing is paying, I'm over the potential men. Either we're going to be equally yoked and where you need to be in life, or just keep walking. There's no reason for us to even have anything to talk about. I do have a 23 year old daughter that I'm trying to get to understand the same thing. She has an amazing job, but the negro that she's with is just, oh my God. Like I don't know where she found him. I think she went to the swamp or something.

[Jess Hilarious]

Damn, damn, damn.

[Caller/Listener]

You just have to be careful about what you're doing. And I'm not gonna bash the men and be like, all men is out looking for something. But at my age, men are looking for cougars and at my daughter's age, men are looking for somebody to take care of them. And it's just unfortunate, but this is the day and age that we live in. Yeah. So I've been there, done that, and I'm not going back again.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay,

[Caller/Listener]

but you got two hands, you got two feet. Get your butt up and go get a job and work for it. Okay, on that note, can I give my, my amazing son a shout out real quick?

[DJ Envy]

Go ahead.

[Caller/Listener]

He's about to be a senior next year. His name is Christopher Beckett. He goes to Kipp High School in St. Louis, Missouri. And y', all, when I tell you this young man is just nothing short of amazing. My son is just amazing. 4.2 GPA. I'm looking for the Morehouse with him. Amazing to come out on top of that job. He is autistic, so do not parents, if you're hearing me, do not let nobody tell you what your baby can't do. Because my son, since elementary, all he's ever had is A's. He's super smart. He knows what he wants in life. And y', all, I'm just a proud mama right now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What a legend.

[DJ Envy]

Congratulations.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You raising a young legend, man.

[DJ Envy]

Congratulations, mama.

[Caller/Listener]

Thank you. And I appreciate all of you continue doing what you're doing. We need you and we need your voice.

[DJ Envy]

Thank you so much.

[Caller/Listener]

Thank you.

[DJ Envy]

What's the moral of the story, guys?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, the moral of the story, this. This whole conversation reminds me of this quote that, that I always hear. And it's like we were made to look, love people and use things. But the reason the world is in chaos is because things are being loved and people are being used. So you remember that this morning when you tongue kissing your Fat white woman. Damn. Or your 70 year old white sugar mama. Young black men.

[DJ Envy]

All right, well, when we come back, we got the latest with Lauren, so don't go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club on ebay. Every fine has a story. Like, if you're looking for a vintage band tee, not just a tea, the band tee from the last show your favorite band ever played. You wore it everywhere. Then your girlfriend started wearing it, which was cool until she dumped you and took it with her, which was not so cool. Anyway, now you're on ebay. And there it is. Same tee from the same tour. Still living in your memory, rent free forever. See, the things you love have a way of finding their way back to you. But ebay isn't just for getting what your ex stole back back. It's also for that rare championship foul ball you caught, then heroically gave it to the kid next to you. And where else are you going to find your first car? The one you wish you never sold, but now finally get the chance to take back home for good this time. You know, I'm a collector of cars, and sometimes I'm looking for the right rim that I had when I was a kid. Yeah, it might have been 20 years ago, but I want that same feeling. And the only way I could find is on ebay. Shop ebay for millions of fines, each with a story. EBay. Things people love.

[State Farm Announcer]

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[DJ Envy]

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[Lauren LaRosa]

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[DJ Envy]

Good morning.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, I'm not dumbing myself down, I'm being myself. Sources must I'm the home girl that knows a little bit about everything and everything.

[Jess Hilarious]

Little brown girls look at you and

[Lauren LaRosa]

go, I want to be like you.

[Caller/Listener]

Take me through that.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Take me through there.

[State Farm Announcer]

She going the latest with Lauren Lewis. Take me through there on the Breakfast Club.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

LL Cool B. Talk to me.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So congratulations to nas. Yesterday the opening of the Resorts World Casino in New York City or the expansion or the expanded part in Queens happened and I saw them celebrating now this is such a big deal now. Resource World, the casino had already been licensed to operate slot games, but it hit its Queens compound now is able to operate table games as a part of its multi billion dollar expansion. You Guys will remember that Nas got involved with this. It was a 5 billion dollar expansion plan for the casino. It's bringing over 1200 new jobs for the city including 950 the new table game dealers. So that that third floor of the casino will now include a bunch of the table games. So Nas was there with a bunch of like different elected officials and he was celebrating the moment. Let's take a listen to Nas on hip hop and casinos coming together.

[DJ Envy]

Hip hop music been around for 50 something years now you seeing something different hip hop in the casino world coming together.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm a Queens native, you already know

[DJ Envy]

know this means everything to me to

[Charlamagne Tha God]

be a part of this salute and

[DJ Envy]

blessings to everybody that works in this building.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All the dealers at the tables, all

[DJ Envy]

the bartenders, everybody in here matters.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Drop on the clues bombs for Nas. I feel like we don't talk about Nas and the amazing business ventures that he has done over the last 10 years. Enough. Yeah, he's been, I mean generational wealth with his portfolio, I mean early investor in the ring, Coinbase, Dropbox, Lyft, a bunch of stuff. I mean you got mass appeal, the record label, the history clothing line. Now the casino like Nas is doing amazing work. Nas is him for real.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes, 100%.

[DJ Envy]

But, but I do wonder, does that shut down Atlantic City? Right? Because now so many people from the new Tri State area would drive two hours to Atlantic City to gamble, to play card games, to do all the that now you don't got to go anymore.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I don't know if it shuts it down or if it just gives you somewhere else to go to. But also too a lot of people go to like their local like what you can get to easiest, right? So people here in New York will be there. People that are closer to Atlantic City are still almost like a two hour drive.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And it's different vibes, you know what I'm saying? You go to all these different places, they got different restaurants, they got different ambiance like Atlantic City and in the summer is totally different than Queens in the summer.

[Jess Hilarious]

And then honestly when you gambling, yo,

[DJ Envy]

it is about the vibe.

[Jess Hilarious]

Because what if you go to Atlantic City City and you losing for the day, then you'll go somewhere else. Because that's how I used to do in Baltimore. We had two, we got two casinos. I would go down Horseshoe, I would own a good day, I'll be all right on the bad day. Ah, I'm going out live after I lose that. You know what I'm saying? It's just like she said it's another

[DJ Envy]

place, but I ain't driving two hours. But I could drive 10 minutes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Another reason that don't make no sense. That casino been there?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Expansion.

[DJ Envy]

No, but it didn't have table games.

[Lauren LaRosa]

What do you mean? For the slots? Yes.

[DJ Envy]

You know, blackjack. It has, you know, all those games now. So that's, that's the.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It now has changed. Black, drag, craps, baccarat, roulette.

[Jess Hilarious]

And that's my game.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes. Yeah. So one. Yeah. So congratulations to Nas and I think too, just the importance of the partnership and how much. I mean, it's a big deal, but it's like, I don't know, like, I think it's like a game changer for people that are looking to. To do other things outside of music. And one of the actual.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Been doing things outside of music.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah. But I think for some reason I feel like, like you said, people don't know a lot of the things that he's done.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, they do. They just don't celebrate it. I think that's, that's a.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Every time I see people cover the casino, I see people act like it's their first time hearing about it. But yesterday I feel like, you know, getting to see him post the photos and they did like the dice roll. So it was like the first dice roll on the table in New York City. Like, that's a, that's huge.

[DJ Envy]

It is huge. Yeah. Nas is a lot. Nas is just a quiet person. He doesn't, he doesn't do too much talking.

[Lauren LaRosa]

No, no. Well, in other news, speaking of huge news, remember yesterday I told you guys that the Beehive made the people believe that Beyonce was coming with Act 3 at the Met Gala next week? Well, Ms. Tina is Ms. Tina Knowles, and she's talking about sacred and a bunch of the different things she has going on. And the people will not leave her alone about it. Let's take a listen to Ms. Tina on Sherri Shepherd. I remember that Beyonce had said that Renaissance was three acts, so we had Renaissance. We already got Cowboy Carter. Has Bea told you what that third act is? Ms. Tina, come on now, give us something.

[Caller/Listener]

I could tell you, but I would have to kill you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, my God.

[Jess Hilarious]

No, I really don't know.

[DJ Envy]

Honestly, I know people think I know,

[Caller/Listener]

but I really don't know because you know, I got a big mouth.

[Jess Hilarious]

So she doesn't, she doesn't tell me

[DJ Envy]

anything until the last minute.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't like them trying to catch 72 year old Tina. No slip.

[Mimi Brown]

Listen,

[Caller/Listener]

she's sharp.

[Lauren LaRosa]

But this go round because there's been

[Charlamagne Tha God]

times where she did.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Like, she's like, yeah, she's sharp. Because she was at another station, I believe was the ABC station. And she. Same thing. It was like, well, I heard the music, but I ain't gonna tell y'. All. Like, she. She's sharp this time around. But they definitely trying to get. Get it. Because it. Not only do people think that there's an album done which, you know, Beyonce's publicist has come out now since yesterday almost four to five times and said no about, but they think it's supposed to come out around at the Met Gala around that date next year.

[DJ Envy]

Where they getting this information from? Like, because if they're saying no, like, where. Where did the sign.

[Lauren LaRosa]

They weren't saying no at first, but yesterday, what I told you guys about that visual comparison was one of the. Was one of the clues. And then I think the beehive, you know, they just come up with a lot of their own things based on, like, things that Beyonce posting. They thought that the three lemons in her hand when she was celebrating lemonade was a thing. They're just reaching for stuff.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[Lauren LaRosa]

But yeah, by the way, we were supposed to. I'm trying to go to the Met Gala next week. They denied us for the carpet.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, they seen your outfits. I don't blame them.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Shut up.

[DJ Envy]

You just said she looked nice today.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Exactly. And I was gonna kill the Met Gala. I was very upset about that. Let's finish the latest.

[DJ Envy]

I was gonna kill them again.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nobody believes Mad feathers.

[DJ Envy]

I could see it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I'm saying?

[DJ Envy]

Cow print.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like she was at the Black Effect music podcast festival dressed like she was going to the BET Gospel.

[Jess Hilarious]

I was giving Goddess.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I was giving Goddess. I was giving the drama. I was giving. You are here for a show.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All the girls call it out.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Give me my 10. I am the birthday. I am the festival.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The outfit was cool. Just wrong place, you know what I'm saying?

[DJ Envy]

The trail. What's the trail thing called?

[Jess Hilarious]

I swear.

[DJ Envy]

What's the trail thing with that train? Oh, yeah. She had a train. She had a train.

[Jess Hilarious]

I know she looked.

[DJ Envy]

I would step on it five times.

[Jess Hilarious]

Times taking her two sons to their father before she went out on a date. Was dressed like, you gotta dress for

[Lauren LaRosa]

where you know you're going. And I'm headed to host some big stages.

[DJ Envy]

You bought that outfit for Black Effect.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Really pretty.

[Jess Hilarious]

Thank you. Thank you.

[Lauren LaRosa]

We didn't even get into my life. You know what if the Met Gala is listening. Don't listen to Charlamagne. Okay? We are the biggest podcast. We are the biggest podcast on Netflix. Okay? We should be on that curse, but I ain't begging.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Radio show. Okay.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Podcast and radio show.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

A radio show that distributes as a podcast.

[DJ Envy]

Radio show first, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. Radio show first, though.

[Lauren LaRosa]

We, all of our entities should have been on that carpet. If you're talking about fashion and culture coming to New York City, there's no reason we should not be there.

[DJ Envy]

Maybe that's the reason why we're not.

[Jess Hilarious]

Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Let's wrap this up. Thank you.

[Jess Hilarious]

In the next.

[Lauren LaRosa]

We'll wrap this up. But in the next latest, we're gonna talk about Diddy and where he did not put his. Can I say the word?

[DJ Envy]

No?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What's the word?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Nothing.

[DJ Envy]

Show me the word jizz.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, it's Coco Losa.

[DJ Envy]

Yes. Oh, my goodness. We'll get to that next. Also, we give you a dog into

[Charlamagne Tha God]

charlamagne 4 after the hour, man. There is a woman. Her name is Michaela Clough. Boy, she loves chicken. We'll discuss.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yes.

[DJ Envy]

All right. We'll do that next.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's the Breakfast Club.

[DJ Envy]

Good morning. Donkey up to date. Made it.

[Jess Hilarious]

Damn the hee Haw again.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's time for donkey of the day. I ain't trying to be donkey today no more. They should be embarrassed by what they already did. I'm not making these people do these things called donkey of the day.

[Jess Hilarious]

And it really caught me off guard. Damn Charlamagne. Who got the donkey of the day today?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, Jess, hilarious. Donkey of the day for Wednesday, April 29 goes to a Wisconsin woman named Mikayla Clough. And she was charged Monday with first degree intentional murder. Okay. Prosecutor said she stabbed her boyfriend at her apartment. What leads a person to do such a heinous act? Well, let's go to ABC News 12 for the report, please.

[J]

Lucas Rosch of Delafield was a lot of things to his family. A loving son and brother, a special uncle, a devoted dog, dad. But the 25 year old's life came to a shocking end at this Okochee apartment Friday night. Stabbed. The death, prosecutors say, by his longtime girlfriend, 27 year old Michaela Cloth.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She admits

[Caller/Listener]

saying, I stabbed him if

[Charlamagne Tha God]

you have to take me to jail, okay.

[J]

According to the criminal complaint issued at Cloth's court hearing Monday, she told investigators Lucas was, quote, pushing her buttons because he brought chicken over to cook at the apartment when, quote, she would rather go out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This complaint indicates that this young lady got into a. When ultimately Got into an argument because he brought home chicken to eat instead of taking her out.

[J]

According to the complaint, Cloth admitted to investigators she was stabbed Lucas because, quote, she was angry and went on to say, quote, she should have just gone to the bar. And the whole thing was just irritating.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

First things first. Rest in peace to 25 year old Lucas Ross. Okay? Dead, deceased over chicken, okay? Poultry that he intended to fry in an air fryer. How much does chicken cost in Wisconsin? Probably close to $5 a pound. Maybe more than that in this climate. And that's not even the farm raised chicken, okay? Farm raised chicken, probably 18 to $30 per bird. This young man, Lucas had chicken drumsticks, okay? And Wisconsin chicken drumsticks cost between A$9 and 250 per pound. He was gonna cook them himself in the air fryer. What a man. Man dropping a clues bomb for Lucas Ross. Man, what a man. What a man. What a man. This young man did what he's supposed to do, okay? Bought some dinner home. And this woman, Michaela, okay, Michaela Clough was not appreciative, okay? She wanted to go out to eat. Were you not in the mood for chicken? Did you ask him to take you somewhere nice like Popeyes, KFC even? Oh, you wanted to go to Chicken man or Gold Rush chicken or Tom Kins. But this young man, Lucas Ross, said no, no, no, no. We got chicken at the house. And because he was thoughtful, because he actually cared and because you are ungrateful, Lucas is no longer with us kids. Let me explain something to y', all, man. If your significant other, the person you love, is pushing your buttons, if the person you love is making you upset and an argument ensues, go somewhere and take a breath, okay? Go take your shoes off and walk in some grass. Go hug a tree. Go outside and look. Look to the sky. Look at the sun. Inhale, exhale, say a prayer, phone a friend. Hell, if you get to the point where you feel so enraged that you want to do something violent, drive yourself to wherever it is you wanted to go and order your own damn chicken wing. She said she wanted to go to the bar. She should have left and went to the bar, okay? She should have called a ride share, went to the bar, had a drink, ordered some damn chicken wings, cooled off and then came back home and Lucas would still be alive today. I just don't understand a 27 year old woman throwing their life away because you didn't like the dinner plants, life in prison. Because she didn't like what her man bought home for dinner. Do you understand the risk Lucas took bringing home those drumsticks to begin with? Because women never, and I mean never seem to know what they want to eat. Okay? I would bet money that Lucas and Michaela had a conversation prior about dating dinner. And Michaela hit him. Michaela hit him with the. The. You choose. You choose. So he chose and she still wasn't satisfied. And now Lucas is dead. My brothers, if women killed us every time they weren't happy with our dinner choices, I don't think it would be any men left, okay? Just a world full of hungry women who have no choice but to eat each other. Okay? Michaela told police if they had to lock her up, that was cool. She took full responsibility like it was nothing. Okay? If you ask me, not showing no remorse, I don't understand this. Okay? You killed someone because you didn't like what he bought you for dinner. But. But now you're going to spend the rest of your life in a facility where you have absolutely zero control over the menu. Another, you know, temporary feeling that has led to a permanent consequence. Please let Remy Ma give Michaela cloth the biggest.

[DJ Envy]

He haw hee haw.

[Caller/Listener]

He ha.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You stupid.

[Jess Hilarious]

Are you dumb?

[DJ Envy]

So dumb.

[Jess Hilarious]

That's crazy. It has got to be something else wrong with her. There's no way that she did that. Cuz she just wanted to go out to eat. It got to be something going on.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She said he was pushing her buttons. That's. That's what she said. He was pushing my buttons?

[Jess Hilarious]

Nah, something else going on with shorty.

[DJ Envy]

All right, well, thank you for that donkey today, sir.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, indeed. Rest in peace to Lucas Ross again.

[DJ Envy]

Yes. Now, when we come back, former New York Nick, former NBA player John Starks will be joining us. We're going to talk to him next. And congratulations to the New York Knicks. We won last night. We got one more game to get Atlanta up out of here.

[Jess Hilarious]

I'm surprised you're not in here jumping up and down.

[DJ Envy]

The Knicks can nick me out, so let's just. We just going to calm down.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That just sounded nasty. But that was unnecessary. It was just unnecessary. You didn't have to say it like.

[Jess Hilarious]

The Knicks can nick you out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Knicks can Nick you out. They can nick you down too. Huh? They can. They can nick you up and down until you say stuff.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Stop.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You have gay ears, man.

[DJ Envy]

We gonna talk to John Stalks when we come back. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning, everybody.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It's Dej Envy.

[DJ Envy]

Just hilarious Charlamagne. The guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Lauren laros is here as well. We got a special guest in the building, former New York Nick. Ladies and gentlemen, John Starks. Welcome, brother.

[Caller/Listener]

Welcome. Thank you.

[DJ Envy]

Thank you.

[Caller/Listener]

Great to be here.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm feeling great.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

It's an honor to have you here. And if you don't know who John Starks is, of course, former Nick. You know, I'm a Knick fan. To see the grunt and the grind of where you came from to become a Knick, I think, was. Was. Was. It gives so much inspiration to kids that don't know. I was actually telling Lauren before, just tell them your journey and how you got into the league and how you made it to the New York Knicks.

[Caller/Listener]

It's gonna take more than an hour. No. Well, I come from Tulsa, Oklahoma, Black Wall street, you know, come from humble beginnings. Single parent, mother, seven of us. Growing up in a household. And just the struggles that you go through, you know what I mean, not having that father figure in the house and me as a young man trying to find my ways longer with my brothers and sisters. And so it was a struggle, but, you know, the love was there in the family itself. So it took everybody for helping me, you know, find my way in life. Got myself in a few trouble situations, let's just say that. And had to grow up and become. Become a man. And so. So I was very fortunate enough to have older brother who saw something in me more so than I probably saw in myself, and kind of pushed me in the right direction. Even though he made his mistakes and went, you know, and did, you know, went on vacation, let's just say that. And so. But he saw something in me and pushed me to, you know, get my life back together. And. And I went back and got back in school and. And. And started to make some out of myself. And with this talent I had, it got so, you know, a coach saw something in me, too, and gave me opportunity to come and play basketball. And so I could say that I went from playing street basketball to playing in the NBA in two years. Once I started, once I made the decision to change my life and move in the right direction.

[DJ Envy]

Now, talk about it, because you were drafted to the Warriors.

[Caller/Listener]

Undrafted.

[DJ Envy]

Undrafted to the Warriors. Then you played in the G League, which they call it now, for a couple years.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It wasn't G League back then.

[DJ Envy]

It was the CBA back then.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Cba.

[DJ Envy]

And something that was unlikely back then. The Knicks seen something in you and decided to pick you to play for the New York Knicks. You and Anthony Mason back then.

[Caller/Listener]

Yes.

[DJ Envy]

Talk about that, because back then, that didn't happen. Usually you get drafted and you play, but y' all came from. Y' all came from a different angle.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah, I was fortunate enough to play for a coach when I was in the CBA called George Whitaker, and he gave me opportunity to come in and just be myself, you know what I mean? I was in the NBA. It's a humbling experience when you go up, then all of a sudden you drop back down, you know what I mean? Because you think you're going to be up here at this level forever, but that's not the case sometime. And. And so I dropped back down. And so I had to kind of like reach inside myself and figure out, you know, what I need to do in order to get back to that next level. And all I thought about was, you know, the learning experience that I had the first year and the guys that play at a high level, what I needed to do and what I needed to work on. And so I went down there with a mentality is like, okay, okay, I need to get better at this, this, this. And. And I did. I went. Went down there, worked with that mindset. A lot of guys feel like once they drop, oh, man, you know, the world is ended, it's over.

[DJ Envy]

It's a rap.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah, it's a rap. And. And that wasn't my mentality. I knew that I belong at the next level. So I. I went in there with that mentality is like, okay, you're gonna work hard, you gonna get your opportunity again. And once that opportunity came, I took full advantage of.

Of it.

But I was playing in the World Basketball League, a league for six, five and under guys. But we had guys in there six, nine, six, ten, you know, one of those leagues. And. And so the great Dick McGuire came down and. And he was scouting me, and I remember I put on a show. I scored like 40 some points. And he said, called my agent and he said, yeah, we want to bring him in the camp.

[DJ Envy]

And.

[Caller/Listener]

And that's how I got to the Knicks. Yes.

[Jess Hilarious]

How did you get into. I'm sorry, this is not even basketball. How did you get into the car business?

[Caller/Listener]

Oh, that's a good question. A good friend of mine is Joe Battagio, who owns for Lincoln of Queens, brought me into the business along with. With the other partners. I was doing some marketing stuff for them for Lincoln of Queens and say he was interested in. In opening up a Kia dealership. Would I love to partner with him? And I like, sure, you know, because I know the Car business is a good business. And. And so that's kind of how I got involved in the car business. And it's been incredible. Just kind of learning a lot about what it takes in order to sell a car and the money that you make off of selling cars. And so. And the beautiful thing about it is that we get to help. Help people. You know what I mean? A lot of these people that comes in, some of them is their first time having a car, and a lot of them, you know, may be going through situations where we can help them out. So it's a beautiful thing, you know, I get a chance to interact with the customer and what have you. So it's a. It's a lot of fun. I. I truly enjoy it.

[DJ Envy]

Are you at the dealership first?

[Caller/Listener]

I'm at the dealership, yeah. Yeah, I come in there. Not all. All the time.

[DJ Envy]

Okay.

[Caller/Listener]

But you do see me in there?

[Jess Hilarious]

Yes, that was my first call. Called King Sapphire.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yep. Crash and burn it.

[DJ Envy]

Come see us again.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We got you.

[Lauren LaRosa]

People come in and they like, oh, my God, yes.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah, they do. They do, because they'd be surprised to see me, you know what I mean? And so I get a chance to get over there and.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And.

[Caller/Listener]

But I do a lot of marketing. That's my job, as you can see. I got marketing all over. Over me. And, uh. But, uh, we have some incredible, uh, sales associates, I like to call them, that truly do their best to try to help everybody that comes through those doors.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah. When you. When you are at the dealership, and of course, New York is New York, right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[DJ Envy]

Do New Yorkers come up to you and want to sit down and be like, yo, do you consider what you did dunking on Jordan?

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah, all the time.

[DJ Envy]

That last game, how was your mental. Like, do they have those conversations with you?

[Caller/Listener]

Yes, yes.

[Jess Hilarious]

I ever get tired of them.

[Caller/Listener]

No, I don't. I don't. This is New York. I love New York, man. I'm a little country boy coming from Oklahoma and just in a big city trying to make a living, you know? But I. I love talking and expressing what I went through because it's the fans, you know, what makes New York New York, you know what I mean? Makes the Knicks. The Knicks. And so I. I never get tired of that. Never get old. To me, I tell people, since I came game working for the KNICKS Back in 2004, I get asked that question every single day, which one? I like the dunk.

[DJ Envy]

So do you consider that a dunk? Because people like Jordan wasn't There it wasn't that.

[Caller/Listener]

Mike said it wasn't Mike. He always tell me I didn't dunk on him, but I always show. I got a big post to say it. I did. But, you know, he. Him being him. You know what I mean?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I get.

[Caller/Listener]

I always explain like. Like this. So I dunked over Horse Grant. Mike got in picture made it look good. You know what I mean? So that's. That's how it is. But he did try to go for the block, so he got a little piece of it.

[Lauren LaRosa]

What was yalls like? Because I was asking envy. Like, you know, like Spike Lee and all these celebrities have been going to y' all games forever. The culture has been there forever. But, like, I can't even imagine a time where, like, something doesn't happen in the game and it's like, super viral.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Like, for y', all, it was a lot different. So, like, during the time that you were playing, what was that the biggest distraction for you?

[DJ Envy]

Was it the women?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah. You got. I feel like today the players deal with. It's the money. You got family trying to figure that out. But on the other side, when I talk about the players a lot, I'm normally talking about the women and the things that they getting into.

[DJ Envy]

She talking about the relationship

[Jess Hilarious]

and social media. Yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So what was your biggest distraction?

[Caller/Listener]

The biggest distraction, I would just say probably the media back then, for a sport. Talk talk radio. That's. That's more so the biggest distraction. We didn't have to deal with, like you said, social media. You. You didn't. Things just like, wasn't ready accessible to you. When you make. When you mess up or you say something wrong or what have you. Like it is now these guys have to deal with so much of that.

Yeah.

You know what I mean? We. We got our news. Maybe the next day when you turn on the radio and somebody says something on the radio, video or you read something in the paper or what have you, immediately at the game, first thing they do, they pick up their phone.

Yeah.

You know what I mean? And so I can remember when doing my playing time, especially during this time of the year, I shut everything down. You know what I mean? My wife, kids understand. Okay. I only got a certain amount of time that I could talk to him, you know what I mean? Because I'm. I'm watching tape, I'm watching games. I listened to Shay Alexander last night after the game.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Game.

[Caller/Listener]

He said he's been watching the Houston and. And Lakers series. You know, that's a young man to get it? You know what I mean? That's what it's about. You know what I mean? I'm prepared for them mentally. Even though I'm playing this game, I'm prepared for my next series. And so he be fly too? Oh, yeah, yeah, he's, he's incredible. First and foremost, he's just amazing young man. But yeah, it's just about, you know, shutting everything off, getting focused and, and understanding you got a job to do and, and stay on, on point. And so hopefully these guys understand that that's the main thing. And if I could get help, get it across to him. I try my best to get it across to him.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah. A lot of things that they go through now is like, you know, relationships, especially when they date in the same industry or like, you know, in any industry now what you go through off the court becomes bigger than what you're doing in the league or on the court.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah, yeah, that's. That, that's tough. You know, I mean, we, we didn't have all that back then.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Caller/Listener]

Like it is now. Everybody want to be involved in your life.

[Jess Hilarious]

Even the media too. Like they'll be asking you stuff. It's like, nah, keep asking about the game. Not about my ex girlfriend or not about, you know, where you saw me at last night.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jess Hilarious]

And the fans play a part in it too, yo.

[DJ Envy]

For sure.

[Jess Hilarious]

You know what I mean?

[Caller/Listener]

For sure. Yeah, it's, it's the, it's the toughest thing for them. And, and I, I feel for them because it's almost hard for them to have a relationship that you trying to have a serious relationship with someone because you. So in the media and those who, you know, want to be in the media, you just exposing your life to, you know, know, to the world. And those who don't, you know, I applaud them, you know what I mean? Because they trying to live. Live a simple life in this crazy, you know, business that we are in. And so it, it's tough for them. And so I don't know what to say on that relationship.

[Jess Hilarious]

Just stay off of social media.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah, I know.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Or get married long term.

[Caller/Listener]

That's true too. I, I agree with you 100%. Yeah. 40 years in.

[DJ Envy]

How would you rank these Knicks players today compared to your squad?

[Caller/Listener]

They there, I truly believe better squad,

[DJ Envy]

worst squad, even squad.

[Caller/Listener]

I would say pretty much even. I always give ourselves, you know, the nod, but I think their mentality is like our mentality. You know, they Rough Riders and that's what you have to be in New York, New York want to see, see that. And so because they want you to fight every game, they can deal with the losses and what have you, but they don't think that you fighting. Then you got a problem in New York and you gonna. Getting you out of here, you know what I mean? And so, but they, that DNA is inside of them. I think Coach Tibbs did a good job from a defensive standpoint of putting that DNA inside. I mean, you see at spurts, it comes at them, but we got to come out of you all the time, you know, and for 48 minutes. And if they can do that, then they got a shot to win it all.

[DJ Envy]

I was gonna ask the goat conversation.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Go ahead, go ahead.

[DJ Envy]

That's the conversation that especially alumni and former players always say. You know, you played with Michael Jordan. You've been watching LeBron. Who is the goat when it comes to basketball and why

[Caller/Listener]

shot? Do I really have to answer question though?

[DJ Envy]

It's a generation, of course, right? The, the younger generation is always going

[Caller/Listener]

to say, I'm gonna say Jordan. You know, I'm gonna say Jordan.

Why?

Yeah, when you play against somebody that did things that like, you just shake your head, it's like, how can this man be on all the time? Like 24 7. How can you be on all the time? We didn't seen LeBron and LeBron is great, don't get me wrong. Wrong. But we didn't. You had questions about him. You never had a question about Jordan. You never had a question about if anybody should be considered, it's Kareem and, and Jordan. That should be the, the two goat questions. But you never had a question about Mike. You know what I mean? Nothing, I, I can't think of nothing. I remember when he came back and, and, and they was in the playoffs against Orlando Magic and you probably remember this, and he turned the ball over in game six. You was like shocked down the stretch. You're like, what, he made a mistake?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Caller/Listener]

Then you see what happened. He came back the next three years and they ended up busting. Yeah, exactly. So you don't. He just different, bro. He, he was just a different mentality. His, his, his drive, his, you know, things that you, you thought he couldn't do. You said he couldn't hit threes. He learned to hit threes. His mid range game, he just made play after play down the stretch. And I'm like, I'm watching film. I'm like, dude, how is you, how is you doing this, you know, all the damn time. How is you doing this all the time. Like, guys make mistakes, but it is. He didn't make mistakes. And. And that's. That's what made him so different. But, hey, if he, like, everybody talking about if he playing today, if he play in today's era, it'd be unmerciful. It really would.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, but you.

[Caller/Listener]

You had.

[DJ Envy]

You. You know, you had the job to stick him, right?

[Caller/Listener]

Yes.

[DJ Envy]

How difficult was that? Like, what did you have to do before the game? Like, pray?

[Caller/Listener]

Exactly, Exactly. Watch tape, man, and try to find weaknesses. You know, when we as players, we watch tape, tape and say, okay, this guy, he can't go left, he can't go right. He like doing this. When you close out on this, it's like, dude, what is weak? None. So you just go out there. And my mentality was just to play him hard, right? Deny him the ball, just make him work. You know what I mean? He's still gonna go score 30, but you got to make him work for those 30s and. And try to not let him get everybody involved in the game. But when he wants to come out, and I done seen those moments, that look in his eye, it's like, dude, you here for a long night.

[DJ Envy]

Well, where can people come check you out at the dealership? Because I know people are gonna be like, yo, I wanna take a test drive with y'.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All.

[DJ Envy]

Don't even wanna buy the car. They just wanna get me.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah, just call over there and say when y' all gonna be there? And they give you the date, I'm gonna be there. Come see me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But just don't.

[Caller/Listener]

Not even if I'm not there. Just come see me. We got Ford Starks for the Queens on. On Northern Boulevard.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And.

[Caller/Listener]

And John starts Kia on Hillside and in Queens.

[DJ Envy]

Okay. Thank you for joining us, brother.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah, this. This has been great. And I just like to wish everybody in here the most success.

[DJ Envy]

Thank you so much. I loved it.

[Caller/Listener]

What's this?

[Jess Hilarious]

I dropped my book today. Oh, so deaf, dude. We parents are co parents and war. It's my very first book.

[Caller/Listener]

So congratulations.

[Jess Hilarious]

Do a memoir on co parenting. Thank you. Thank you so much.

[Caller/Listener]

You're welcome. Thank you.

[DJ Envy]

Thank you. We appreciate you for joining us. That same positive energy sent to the Knicks, too, because we need a chip.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah, we need everybody. And like I said, fans, y' all know what to do tonight when you're there. Lift my man Mikhail up.

[DJ Envy]

Okay.

[Caller/Listener]

Okay.

[DJ Envy]

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[DJ Envy]

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[DJ Envy]

Good morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I came in here this morning and I told y' all that yesterday I saw a movie that for me is an instant classic. A movie that for me personally is already one of my favorite movies.

[Lauren LaRosa]

He was posting on Instagram in all caps, yelling, bruh. He was so excited.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

One Spoon of Chocolate. Quentin Tarantino present presents One Spoon of Chocolate. Written by Deriza. Produced by the rza, directed by the rza, fully funded by the rza. Love it, man. Wow. Wait, it comes out Friday.

[DJ Envy]

I'm 62 minutes in and I think it's an hour 54 minutes. And it is so good. It sparks emotion, conversation. It has action, it has anything, any little pieces that you're into so far.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So wait till the last 30.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, wait, don't say that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The last 30 and drop it. A clues bomb for Shabik Moore, man. Oh, my God. He bodied that role. Yes, he's. I can't wait till y' all see one spoon of chocolate. And Michael Jackson clearly wants y'.

[DJ Envy]

All.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What'd you say, Jeff?

[Jess Hilarious]

I said I haven't seen it, but Shamek Morris, yo.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And.

[DJ Envy]

And that's Paris.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's Paris. That's Michael Jackson's daughter.

[Jess Hilarious]

That's what I'm saying.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Michael Jackson must want y' all back in the theater because everybody went to go see Michael Jackson last weekend. And now his daughter is gonna be in one spoon of chocolate that comes out Friday.

[DJ Envy]

And she don't have a little role.

[Lauren LaRosa]

She has a big role.

[DJ Envy]

Very good.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Big roll.

[Jess Hilarious]

That's what I asked.

[DJ Envy]

I was like, I just looked again. I'm like, oh, ish.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Big roll.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Big roll.

[Caller/Listener]

Big row.

[DJ Envy]

Big roll. Big row. Big ro. Let's get to the latest.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She be having the latest on the

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

Talk to me. Top dog low.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So Diddy just filed some new legal docs. He is drawing a hard line against some claims that he. That he masturbated into a Biggie T shirt during a 2020 warehouse visit and then threw the shirt while saying RIP Biggie onto a man named Jonathan Hay, who was accusing Diddy of this act and several other acts in a civil lawsuit. Now, we talked about about the civil lawsuit some time ago.

[DJ Envy]

I've never heard this before.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah. So Jonathan Hay, when we talked about it some time ago, he. He alleged that that T shirt incident happened. He alleged that Diddy shoved his private part in his face. In a separate incident. He also alleged that Diddy tried to force him to have oral sex with him. Now, Diddy foul not only denying all of these claims, but he's also asking for a judge to toss his lawsuit out. But in the docs, it's kind of confusing because. And I called an attorney trying to clear it up, and it still didn't really help me much. But in the docs, it's like Diddy's denying generally and specifically all of the claims. But then they say that Jonathan Hay invited the conduct and whatever was happening was happening with full knowledge of what was going to happen. And I'm like, so are you saying that this stuff happened?

[DJ Envy]

And it was like, where's the T shirt?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So they asked Jonathan what he was wearing.

[Lauren LaRosa]

The T shirt. He flat out denies. He says that that never even happened.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't believe that story.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, he says that the T shirt is not real at all.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But I don't believe that story. But it's hilarious. I mean, it's hilarious because if he

[DJ Envy]

threw the T shirt at him, he would have the T shirt. And you could see if the isms on the T shirt, they could test it to see if his DNA was on but there is no T shirt.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, just the fact that they think he'd just masturbate on demand like that. Just. Anyway, like, you know how horny you got to be just to be able to masturbate. You just walking around in a warehouse and you're like, give me that T shirt. You just whack one out right quick. Are you just that horny all the time? I mean, I don't believe it's story. Yeah, but it's hilarious.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, well, Diddy's asking for this to be thrown out, and he's saying that, you know, hey, the. The alleged person in this should not be paid anything. So there's an update there, and we'll keep you guys updated. Now, in other news, switching gears. So yesterday there was a video that started to go viral of Meg the Stallion. So there's been, you know, conversation around her breakup. Klay Thompson. And the video is of Meg the Stallion. She's out in a, uh, like, what looks like a lounge or not nightclub in New York City, and she's taking shots out of a girl's chest and just having a good time. Right. So people are like, well, how are you posting on Instagram? Really, really upset, but you're out having a good time. The conduct doesn't match up with what we thought was happening behind the scenes. I spoke to a photographer who took a photo of Megan at that event. His name is Shaka. Or the. The studios is Shaka T Studios. And to be. I wanted to clarify that. Clarify that she was out celebrating. She has a tequila. So she was out celebrating the launch of a Tequila brand here in New York City. I think the venue was bringing a tequila into the brand, But I feel like anything with her right now, people are just finding a reason to be upset. Like, first of all, if you are upset and you get a breakup, you go out. But she was there for work.

[DJ Envy]

She was taking shots, though, right?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, but I mean, out of some girl's boobs.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay. At what point do we realize social media is not the place to have complex conversations? Social media is a place to. That everything has to be black or white. It has to be either or either good, right? God, Satan, you know, like, it. It hot, cold. Life is complex.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And people act like they don't live

[Charlamagne Tha God]

a life that people live a full life that you know nothing about. I know y' all see videos every now and then and pictures every now and then, but, yeah, she might be crying one hour and be out having a good time. When you break up no, that's how I be. When you human.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[DJ Envy]

But you can't be mad at people for commenting and judging. Right. Because if you put your life out there and you show the highlight reel, people want to break down everything that's part of your life. That includes the good, the bad and ugly.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But envy. All I can show you is my highlight reel. Don't you want me to be on 24 7?

[DJ Envy]

But people are gonna comment on you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like me when I wipe my ass too.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's gonna come to that soon.

[Lauren LaRosa]

He posted a photo on the toilet. Go ahead.

[Jess Hilarious]

No, I'm surprised that people haven't. I'm not mad that she's out or whatever like that. But I thought you were gonna say people were like, yo, if you can be out here taking shots and partying and all that, you can finish broadening.

[Lauren LaRosa]

That's a part of the conversation. But that happened. That was. I'm told by Shaka T Studios, that was Saturday night. So she might. It might have hit her harder. We don't know all the way of what happened with the cancellation. But also I see people just talking about her conduct as well, like. And they have the whole. The moral conversation people are trying to have because she takes the shot out of the woman's boobs.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

By the way. I disagree that just because she quit Moulin Rouge, she gotta stay in the house. You know, I mean, that's like. That's how sometimes you do when you fake sick. Yeah. Are you giving excuse to not be at. At work? And so then you try to stay off social media because. Right, right, Jess, you stay on social

[Lauren LaRosa]

media because you don't want them to notice.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You really like getting your head down.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I used to do that at my own job. I used to do that at my own job because they were watching.

[DJ Envy]

But you understand why people are upset just quickly. But like if people bought tickets to Moulin Rouge and they said she's so hurt she can't finish, but that night she's in the club, people could feel

[Jess Hilarious]

away because a lot of people are coming to see Moulin Rouge for Megan. So that's what I was saying.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't think the two are mutually exclusive, though. Cuz I may not be in the right mindset to finish Mulan Mulan Rouge, but I can be in the right mindset to go have a drink. Actually, I might need a drink.

[Jess Hilarious]

I got you.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm.

[Caller/Listener]

I.

[Lauren LaRosa]

That too.

[Jess Hilarious]

Go ahead.

[Caller/Listener]

My bad.

[DJ Envy]

Go away. Go ahead.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I just wanted to get to this last segment of the Thing. Okay, so this is switching gears heavily. So Mari and Ricky Lee sat down for a conversation for on par with Mari. It's a podcast that he does, a show that he does. And they were talking about how times have changed and what they couldn't have done or in this era. Let's take a listen to Mari on time Topics.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't resent anything, but there's a

[Caller/Listener]

particular theme I could not do today.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We used to have a show with a beauty pageant.

[DJ Envy]

Is it a man or a woman?

[Jess Hilarious]

Oh, we did that, too.

[DJ Envy]

You couldn't do that today.

[Mimi Brown]

You can't do it today.

[Jess Hilarious]

But I. I don't think it was derogatory.

[Mimi Brown]

I don't.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Neither do I.

[Jess Hilarious]

It was not to me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It was unbelievable that I could be

[DJ Envy]

this far from the person and not

[Caller/Listener]

tell and not know.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes. Yeah. So we grabbed some audio.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why can't they do it, do that today?

[Jess Hilarious]

Hey, come on.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I printed out some pictures for the room. Pick photos that you guys had of the contestants. Yours is to your right. Charlamagne. So do we have some audio from that actual episode?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let's say you're saying we can't do it today, but you want to.

[DJ Envy]

But you want to do it on there.

[Lauren LaRosa]

No, no, no, no, no. What I'm. What I'm saying is that the reason why he's saying he couldn't do it today is because he feel like he'll be dragged for. I kept it safe in what we grabbed some of the comments. I don't think he meant to be mean, but today they be deemed like people going to drag me. But let's.

[DJ Envy]

So for the listeners, this. She. She gave us three pictures of three different people.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes. Kelly, Shelby, and Lolita. And Lolita works for the Martin show.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No. Period. No.

[DJ Envy]

So you're gonna ask if are they men or women?

[Lauren LaRosa]

He's gonna tell you. I have Mari talking about it. Let's take a listen to contestants coming out.

[Caller/Listener]

The best part about being a woman is that I will never have to carry my own luggage.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Just look at her.

[DJ Envy]

Do you see anything that gives it away?

[Lauren LaRosa]

It looked like Adam apple.

[Caller/Listener]

I don't know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You look now. You don't know, do you?

[DJ Envy]

You look at Adam's apples. Here's the lovely Lolita. Lolita.

[Jess Hilarious]

The best part about being a woman

[Charlamagne Tha God]

is that I am voluptuous.

[DJ Envy]

Maury, I'm not playing anymore.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

If you didn't know these were men, you didn't want to know all three of them. Knock it off.

[Lauren LaRosa]

We have the answers. That's a A listen.

[DJ Envy]

So Shelby's a man. Confirm it.

[Caller/Listener]

I am a woman. Well, I mean, I'm a woman now.

[DJ Envy]

What does that mean? What does that mean?

[Caller/Listener]

Well, that means I flew overseas and got rid of. Well, I don't like to leave my problems hanging.

[Jess Hilarious]

You know what I mean?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let's move on to Kelly.

[DJ Envy]

Man or woman?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Kelly.

[Mimi Brown]

I was born a male.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, here's Lolita.

[Caller/Listener]

Lolita.

[DJ Envy]

You think that's a man? Forget you. It's a woman. Here's Lolita. Here's a little surprise.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Tell everybody.

[Caller/Listener]

Born a girl.

[DJ Envy]

Yes. And tell everybody where you work.

[Jess Hilarious]

I work for the Mari show.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So there was one woman.

[DJ Envy]

I got two out of three.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah. But there were a bunch of other

[Jess Hilarious]

people that were a woman.

[DJ Envy]

Yes.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes.

[DJ Envy]

We got to go.

[Jess Hilarious]

We got to go. We got to go.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So that ends the segment Sue Mar. Because they picked her cuz she looked masculine in the. That's why they put. That's why they even put her up there.

[Jess Hilarious]

Absolutely.

[DJ Envy]

That is the latest release. Who is that brought to you by?

[Lauren LaRosa]

It's brought to you by Top Dog Law. Any accident, a big or small called Top Dog Law. And again, I'm headed to the Accelerate Her Awards. It's a global leadership summit that'll be celebrating business and well, shout out to Kim. Kim Blackwell and her whole organization. The PMM Agency is headed there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Lauren is being honored at the Accelerate. What's it called?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Accelerate Her Awards with the Varsity award. And I'll also be hosting a live conversation with Melissa Butler of the Lit Bar. We'll talk about it when we come back.

[DJ Envy]

We'll talk about in depth when we come back. So don't go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ and just hilarious Charlemagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Now salute to our very own Lauren LaRosa. She's heading to Florida.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

LL Cool B.

[DJ Envy]

What are you doing today?

[Lauren LaRosa]

So today I'm headed to the Accelerate Her Awards. It's a global leadership summit, so they celebrate business, wealth, wellness. I'm receiving the bossy award along with Ashley Fox. She's over at Empathy. Christopher Lee Hayslet, who we know has been here on the show hosted to

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Keep it Positive Sweetie podcast on the Black Pet Podcast Network. She absolutely bodied it. This Saturday at the Black Podcast.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

With Young Miami.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes. Diara Embe, she's the executive vice president of beauty and fragrance for SKIMS. And Dr. Amira Oglanai, she is a celebrity dentist in a health advocate, but also, you know, Kamala Harris will Be there. She's like one of the distinguished speakers. Governor Westmore and his wife are also going to be there, be speaking there. There's so many people that are involved in this, so many names. Candy, Candy Burns is being honored. Ms. Kathy Hughes is being honored as well. Rosalind Brewer, who's the interim vice president at Spelman and works with United Airlines. Like, there's a lot of, like, dope women who have been like, kind of ushered into this conference. It's their fourth year.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You see Ms. Hughes, you make sure you go up to her and speak to her. Introduce yourself. Please send her my love.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I will. I met her in Miami before and remember she, we talked about you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's my.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, I will. But yeah, I'm excited. So I'll be posting from there and I'll be bringing back some, some of the conversations from there in our latest tomorrow. Thank you.

[DJ Envy]

All right. You still book trapping?

[Jess Hilarious]

Yes, I am. Yeah, I am. Of course I am sure. My book is officially out now in bookstores, online, wherever you get your books. Y' all can catch me on Cameron hall this afternoon at 3pm promoting my

[Charlamagne Tha God]

book, oh, my God.

[Jess Hilarious]

Fun Time.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Warn us now.

[Jess Hilarious]

Great conversation. I didn't say nothing. I didn't say nothing crazy, yo. I'm good. I promise. I ain't say nothing. I don't need no nothing to say nothing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't believe it until I see it, yo. Anyway.

[Jess Hilarious]

And my face and my book cover is also on a billboard in New York City on Broadway. And so was my husband. Yesterday he made it to Billboard himself in Times Square. Yesterday. I'm about to tell you, yesterday my husband rang the opening bell at NASDAQ in New York City. And yeah, he was on TV doing it. Proud wife moment. I'm so proud of him. He's been into like, stocks and investment and day trading and things like that. And he's been doing really, really good for himself. And he's the mentorship of John Hope Bryant. So shout out to John Hope Brian as well. Chris been doing it for years, but that's why mentorship is very important in, like, big money industries like that because, like, he learning, learning things that he didn't know about it and, like, really been, like, making some real big plays and real big money doing it. So I appreciate you. John Hope Brian operates Hope and I'm

[Charlamagne Tha God]

proud of my stock. Was it tequila? Was it long?

[Jess Hilarious]

Tomorrow evening, Powerhouse Bookstore in Dumbo, Brooklyn, New York, 7 to 9pm, the release of my book. We're going to be talking about no Post release of my book, we're going to be talking about all things co parenting. Rome will be in the building.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Big Rome.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yes, I need to see y' all there because we. We're going to be having a conversation, a fireside chat about all the chapters in the book. So get your book. I will be signing copies. Y' all can ask us anything. The conversation will be moderated by Fox News anchor T. Whitlow. And tomorrow I'm going live at 10:30 to talk about my book, Till Death to Be Parent as well. I heart Breakfast Club across all of our platforms. On Breakfast Club, we'll be going live at 10:30am so catch that because Lauren LaRosa will be moderating the conversation about that as well. And y' all will win some books. If y' all registered, then y' all will be winning books as well.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Autograph copies.

[Jess Hilarious]

Autograph copies.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I've had people come up to me already and, you know, say, like, you know, they really needed this book because, you know, they've been trying to find healthy ways to co parent. Yeah, that's what's significant other.

[Jess Hilarious]

So appreciate that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And Rome can't wait to tell his side of the story.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah, he's coming this week.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yo, Rome called my phone and didn't even say nothing. He just had Boosie set it off playing his line. And I kept saying, peace, Rome piece. He was like, all I kept hearing, it kept getting of, you want to talk, you want to run your mouth? I said, oh, shoot, I know what that mean. Okay, you know, grow up.

[DJ Envy]

Yo, I know this week, so I can't wait to. To chop it up with Rome. I think we should make. Just step out. Just.

[Caller/Listener]

That's just us.

[DJ Envy]

Talk to Rome.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Talk to Rome.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah. My book, though. You right, you right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The whole room back at Tamara, all they said that Rome kept trying to run out on the stage.

[Jess Hilarious]

Really was he was not dead goofy set up line.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The positive note is simply this. The purpose of life is to discover your gift. The work of life is to develop it. The meaning of life is to give your gift away. That is from David Biscott. Have a great day. Breakfast Club. Wake you up.

[DJ Envy]

Wake that ass up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[DJ Envy]

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[Lauren LaRosa]

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[Mimi Brown]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Lauren LaRosa]

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