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Charlamagne Tha God
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Directed by Justin Tippen and produced by Monkey Paw Productions. Never Meet yout Idols hymn hits theaters September 19th. Hey, everybody.
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It is Elle Woods. Tracy Flick herself, Reese Witherspoon. Reese, we must go on a girls trip.
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Tesla Figaro
This week I'm sitting down with Vanderpump.
Matthew McConaughey
Rules star Sheena Shay.
Charlamagne Tha God
I don't really talk to either of them, if I'm being honest.
Tesla Figaro
There will be an occasional te one.
Charlamagne Tha God
Way or the other from me to Ariana.
Tesla Figaro
Maybe a happy birthday from Ariana to me.
Charlamagne Tha God
I think the last time I talked.
Lauren LaRosa
To Tom, it was like, congrats on America's Got Talent. This is a convo you don't want to miss. Listen to casual chaos on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Charlamagne Tha God
Good morning, usa. Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo.
Matthew McConaughey
Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo. Good morning, Lauren LaRosa.
Lauren LaRosa
Good morning.
Charlamagne Tha God
I go by the name of Charlamagne, the God. We are happy to be here. Bless black and highly favored. Happy to be here to talk about. I don't know what the hell I'm trying to say this morning, Good morning. How are you? I'm doing well. How are you? I am blessed, black and highly favored man. Happy to be here another day to serve our beautiful listeners. Man. How are y'?
Matthew McConaughey
All?
Charlamagne Tha God
How do y' all feel out there? Tesla and Figaro is here in studio with us today. Envy is off. Jess is off. But guess what? We have an amazing show for you this morning. We have the cast of Reasonable Doubts season three, Emma Yahtzee. Did I pronounce her name right? Emma Yahtzee cornelli, Emily Coronaldi, McKinley Freeman and Joseph Sakura will be joining us to talk about Reasonable Doubt season three. And also there's this up and coming poet that I really, really like. I read his book. His book is called Poems and Prayers. Okay. He also put out another book called Green Lights. Y' all might know him. He goes by the name of Matthew McConaughey. McConaughey, McConaugh. I think he does a little acting too. He's got a movie coming out tomorrow called the Lost Bus. But yeah, we'll be talking. I think McConaughey. I think that's how you pronounce it.
Lauren LaRosa
Matthew McConaughey. Yes, Matthew McConaughey.
Charlamagne Tha God
We'll find out when he gets here, but we'll talk to him this morning as well. And Tesla figure has front page news coming up.
Tesla Figaro
Absolutely. We're going to talk about Cash Patel in the hot seat for day two.
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay. So we'll be back in like 30 seconds. It's the Breakfast Club. I realize I can't do this show when I got shoes on. I need my slides. My slides in the office, man. It's the world's most dangerous morning show. The Breakfast Club. Charlamagne, Tha God, DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Neither one of them here today, but Lauren LaRosa is here and we got Teslin Figaro live in studio to do front page news because Tez is going to be on CNN tonight on Abby Phillips show at 10pm so she's in New York City. Good morning, Tess.
Tesla Figaro
Good morning. Charlamagne de Guy. Good morning, Lauren.
Lauren LaRosa
Good morning.
Tesla Figaro
So happy to be here with the family. Let's get straight into it. Yesterday was day two when FBI director Cash Patel faced criticism in his handling of the Charlie Kirk murder investigation. And they asked him about the Epstein files. Man, they really got into it. Charlamagne on this one. But your our girl, Jasmine Crockett. The representative, Jasmine Crockett of Texas said that Patel should be fired and was the least qualified FBI director in the History of the FBI. Representative Crockett made it clear that she had zero confidence in Patel's ability and talked about how he was at a fancy dinner posting inconsistencies. Let's take a listen.
Lauren LaRosa
You were posted up having some fancy.
Tesla Figaro
Dinner to the extent that you posted not only once erroneously, you posted twice.
Lauren LaRosa
Erroneously as it relates to catching somebody.
Tesla Figaro
And then you want to go and say, let me take a victory lap.
Lauren LaRosa
Because, honestly, if it wasn't for parents.
Tesla Figaro
Deciding that they were going to turn in their child, it seems like y' all wouldn't have got there, even though he literally confessed online. So I'm confused about what it is that the FBI is doing, except for trying to put on a show for the Apprentice or whatever you want to call him.
Charlamagne Tha God
You know, Jasmine gonna apply pressure.
Tesla Figaro
Every time she was applying pressure, like, the whole thing went about six minutes. So that was just a little bit of clip. So if you want to watch more, she went into it. But this part, I'm not gonna hold you, y'.
Charlamagne Tha God
All.
Tesla Figaro
This was kind of hilarious to me. Representative Eric Swalwell. He asked Patel about the Epstein files. Take a listen to this, Director, remembering.
Charlamagne Tha God
Your oath to tell the truth. Did you ever tell Donald Trump his name is in the files?
Tesla Figaro
I have never spoken to President Trump about the Epstein files.
Charlamagne Tha God
Did you ever tell the Attorney General.
Matthew McConaughey
That Donald Trump's name is in the Epstein files? The Attorney General and I have had.
Tesla Figaro
Numerous discussions about the entirety of the Epstein files and the reviews conducted by our team.
Charlamagne Tha God
Did you tell the Attorney General that Donald Trump's name is in the Epstein files? And we have released where President Trump.
Matthew McConaughey
Did you tell the Attorney General that.
Charlamagne Tha God
The president's name is in the Epstein files?
Tesla Figaro
During many conversations that the Attorney General and I have had on the matter of Epstein, we have reviewed.
Charlamagne Tha God
The question is simple. Who? You tell the Attorney General that Donald Trump's name is in the Epstein files?
Matthew McConaughey
Yes or no?
Tesla Figaro
Why don't you try spelling it out?
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes or no?
Tesla Figaro
Use the Alphabet.
Matthew McConaughey
Yes or no?
Tesla Figaro
No. ABC Director.
Charlamagne Tha God
Sounds like you don't want to tell us.
Tesla Figaro
Why do I find that funny?
Charlamagne Tha God
It was funny. You know what, though? When they get on the FBI about the parents helping out, define the killer. Why is that an issue? Isn't that what law enforcement wants? Don't they want the public that helped them find somebody? When somebody. When they're looking for somebody?
Tesla Figaro
Sure. But the issue was, as she went on to say, you took a victory lap, acting like y' all didn't. You know, when they went online, like, oh, we got the guy.
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, we got him. We got you, got you, got you.
Matthew McConaughey
Gotcha.
Tesla Figaro
President Trump also went on Fox News saying, we got our guy. And really, you didn't get nobody. You know, the parents turned it in. So she was just bringing up the point that y' all wasn't doing your job. You was sitting up, having dinner. You were saying you had them, then you didn't have them, and the inconsistency. So just basically pointing out, you know, how they just didn't do a thorough investigation. She also went into Charlamagne's. Grace, you brought that up. She also went into, said, I don't trust you, you guys, because you can't find him. And meanwhile, my colleagues are also getting death threats. And then she went on to talk about. We know we talked about this earlier last week about HBCUs getting a desert shout out to my HBCU. We had to shut down that day, by the way, FAMU College of Law. So Jasmine Crockett, Representative Crockett, also asked about that one. Let's play that red.
Lauren LaRosa
The day after all of this took.
Tesla Figaro
Place, there was domestic terrorism that was taking place at HBCUs. They were targeted. Yet I didn't hear anything from the FBI about what was going on. And again, black people kept saying, how did we end up in this?
Lauren LaRosa
Because the numbers are so very clear.
Tesla Figaro
That white supremacy is a problem. And honestly, I've not heard anything out of you today that makes me believe that you're going to do anything about the white supremacy problem, the one that is leading to children being killed, children being shot, as well as members of their community as they're working, as they're worshiping in their churches.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah. The FBI actually released a statement and said those threats to the HBCUs were a hoax.
Tesla Figaro
Well, we wasn't interested in taking no chances.
Charlamagne Tha God
Exactly.
Tesla Figaro
You know, it's so interesting because I posted on my Instagram a professor had told a student at UCF because even though it was still HBCUs, there was also a threat at UCF. UCF, University of Florida, which is a majority white institution, that said, we're going to kill every end in sight. And one professor said, you should just, you know, come to. Come to class anyway. Just defy, you know, the rate. And like, no, we think we gonna just pause, you know, and just kind of wait.
Charlamagne Tha God
So, yeah, I don't know how you. How you determine a. A hoax is a threat. Right, right. Because in a way, all threats are hoaxes until the person actually does something.
Lauren LaRosa
Especially on a school campus yeah, absolutely.
Tesla Figaro
So just before we wrap, just want to reiterate again, Charlemagne. She was really pushing the fact that the guy, the. The killer talked about it online. He talked about it in the Discord. You know, it was pretty. It was like, why did it take you 33 hours to find him? So that was the point she was making. Gotch that out. At 7 o', clock, we're going to talk about Trump. Donald Trump celebrates Jimmy Kimmel off the air. The Internet went crazy about it yesterday. So we'll be talking about that at 7.
Charlamagne Tha God
We'll discuss. We got. Get it off your chest right now. 1-800-585-1051. If you want to call up and tell us why you're blessed, you can do that. If you want to call up and tell us why you stressed this morning, you can do that as well. It's the world's most dangerous morning show. The Breakfast Club. The Breakfast Club. Ray Ray, Ray. Yo, Charlemagne. Izzy, what up? Oh, we.
Matthew McConaughey
This is your time to get it off your chest.
Charlamagne Tha God
I got an indoor pool.
Matthew McConaughey
We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club.
Charlamagne Tha God
We can get on the phone right now. He'll tell you what it is. Good morning. Get it off your chest. Good morning, Charlemagne. The God, it's your boy Lovey from the Bronx. Tapping in peace, Lovey. If Taz around, Lovey coming, right? Taz is Lovey bait. You want to get Lovey in, you bring Tess. Big fact. I'm out here holding my wife up, not down. There you go. How you doing, brother? I'm blessed, black, and highly favored. I want to say thank you and because I appreciate all you do for my wife, holding her up. And I want to make this announcement. There's a lot of guys, a lot of these crazy maggots going out our queen. Just know there's a soldier out here holding my queen up. Any smoke you got for Ted, just redirect it for Lovey. You heard? There you go.
Lauren LaRosa
When all the smoke.
Tesla Figaro
Right. Thank you. I appreciate your support. Loving. Seriously.
Charlamagne Tha God
Make sure you watch Taz tonight on on Abby Phillips show on CNN. 10:00pm Good morning. Get it off your chest. Who's this? This is Singh. How y' all doing? What's up, Charlemagne? What's up, my brother? How are you? Hey, not too bad. I was stressed, but now I'm blessed. Okay. I called to get off my chest Monday. You and Tesla was talking about the ride share and the lawsuit thing, correct? Sir, yes, sir. Okay. I am a blind man that suffers from that. I have a. A dog and every time I get that ride share, they have the ability to deny my ride by just looking at me. And I'm blind. I feel like that's unfair. That's the stress point. The blessed part was instead of me crying about it, I fixed my solution. I'm a blind business owner. I own a ride line, share ride service. It's a single S, Y, N, G, F O. Who driving? I need to know who driving. Come on now, who is driving? Actually, a lot of the veterans that got fired and released during this Trump administration, I hire them. Got you. A lot of veterans drive for my company. I'm based out of St. Louis. My first ride share comes out, I mean my first rollout comes out this October, which is blind awareness month. And if any blind people out there, you don't have to go through this. Create your own thing and just follow me at Syngfo Sinful.
Tesla Figaro
Hey, brother, let me ask you a question. Are you, have you utilized any access to grants? Because if you're hiring veterans, you should absolutely be getting some extra money for that. Are you a veteran?
Charlamagne Tha God
I am not testing, but this is the thing. I'm new at this, right? And I asked my children to help me because I'm a blind man. So we're learning as we go and I definitely gonna grab that piece that you gave me and play it over for my 19 year old to like Ms. McTesterman said, oh yeah, I'm learning.
Tesla Figaro
Oh yeah, I'm a veteran, baby. So look into that. If you are hiring veterans and you are actively putting on a payroll, there are access to resources you can absolutely get just for offering that type of service, that type employment.
Charlamagne Tha God
Thank you so much for that info. That's all it is, is it? Spreading love and through these trying times. Everybody needs a little help. I agree with you, King. Thank you very much, man. Get it off your chest. 1-800-585-1051. Call up right now Tell us why you blessed or you can call up and tell us why you stressed. It's the world's most dangerous morning show, the Breakfast Club.
Matthew McConaughey
This is your time to get it.
Tesla Figaro
Off your chest Whether you're mad or blessed. I hate the way that you walk.
Charlamagne Tha God
The way that you talk I hate the way that you dress Everything with me is blessed. Call up next.
Matthew McConaughey
800-585-1051.
Charlamagne Tha God
Not just me, I'm with the culture feeling yes. Get it off your chest. Who's this? Hey, what's going on, man? This cat man from nc. Your name is Cap. Yeah, Man, Cap, no. Cap. Nobody believes you. Good morning. How are you, sir? Hey, listen. Hey, yo, listen to me. Nobody's gonna believe this. I'm. I really gotta get this off my chest, man. Okay, so look. All right, so look, man, my child's mother picked me up for child support. And you know, it's kind of crazy because I just co. Signed for on them on a vehicle. What kind of vehicle? The 2022 Honda CRV. Okay. Okay. I ain't no Kanye west or nothing. It don't matter, bro. She got some nice wheels to get around. That's all. That's all she need. Yeah, but I mean, she still came around to put me on child support. Well, clearly she needs and I take care of my child. Yeah, that's the thing. That's the thing. I don't be understanding, though. I want to. When a. When a person is actually taking care of their child and providing for the mother of their child, I don't think they should be getting put on child support. But for whatever reason, the courts don't recognize that.
Lauren LaRosa
What's your communication like? Like y' all relationship is good?
Tesla Figaro
I don't know.
Charlamagne Tha God
It could be a little bit better, I guess.
Lauren LaRosa
Okay, so does the mediate, like the person in the middle with the child support just like, does that make it easier? Is like, that a reason?
Tesla Figaro
Why?
Lauren LaRosa
Is she just being petty?
Charlamagne Tha God
Nah, because I own my own business, so it's like when I had my child, I doubt shout out to cash app. When I had my child out, I got her to get cash app. So it shows that I was sitting there like $20,000. Now I own my own little landscaping business and whatnot down here. And she was like, yo, she just sees the invoices for X amount and she just assumes that she won't. You know that. But I gotta pay people, you know, So I got overhead expenses, insurance, audits, and all type of stuff. Stuff that I don't even know about. I feel you. What time you gotta be to work this morning? Oh, man, I'm out here working right now, man. Damn. Well, I'm glad you at work because you need to. You need to get off the phone with us. You. You vented. Now you gotta get back to work so you can pay that child support, sir. Okay. Hey, you ain't lied to us, though. Have a great day. Good morning. Who's this? Get it off your chest. Yo, what's up, man? It's Travy out of North Carolina. How you today, Charlamagne? Travy, what's up, My brother, how can we help you?
Matthew McConaughey
I'm chilling.
Charlamagne Tha God
All right, so I'm a singer, and I want to sing Usher with my guitar on live. Do your thing.
Lauren LaRosa
Oh, God.
Charlamagne Tha God
All right, all right, all right. So take it. Oh, what's up, Lauren?
Lauren LaRosa
It's okay. Tess is here, too. Good morning.
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, what's up, Taz?
Tesla Figaro
Hey, was good.
Charlamagne Tha God
Good luck tonight.
Tesla Figaro
Yeah, thank you. You've been promoting that charlamagne. They really.
Charlamagne Tha God
10:00Pm Abby Phillips, CNN. Oh, you a check it. How you doing? It's been some time but you know we got it, girl, I can leave you alone Take a shot of this strong it's gonna be off be a victim Got way too crowded I'm about to end the party tonight she sure I let your girl tell her that you can't see bull up shotgun be beating TV with me she said ready to ride? Yeah. Cause once you get inside you can't change your mind on me the sounding piece you got a promise, baby. Oh, I'm. I mean, you sound all right to me, but your phone service, you know what I'm saying? So I can't hear the guitar and you going in and out. It sounds like you was hitting it, though. Pause. I appreciate. Well, pause, but I appreciate it, man.
Lauren LaRosa
He appreciated. We had to think about it.
Charlamagne Tha God
Thank you for calling my brother. Where can they find you if they want to reach out to you? All right, so that on all platforms, it's travy T R A A H V I E. Okay, brother. Thank you for calling, man. Get it off your chest. We do that every morning. 1-800-585-1051. That's how you reach us. But now it's time for the alert us with Lauren.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah, we got a lot to talk about. Jay Z and his casino bid. There has been a decision made. Can he bring it to New York? We're gonna get into it.
Charlamagne Tha God
We'll talk about it when we come back. It's the world's most dangerous morning show. The Breakfast Club. The Breakfast Club. Yep. It's the world's most dangerous morning show. The Breakfast Club. Charlamagne. The God, DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Interviewing Just on here today, but it's time for the latest with Lauren. She gets them from somebody that knows somebody. She gets the details.
Lauren LaRosa
I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything.
Charlamagne Tha God
She'd be having the latest on the beast. The Latest with Lauren LaRosa. Sometimes you have facts. Sometimes you have details. Sometimes she have a little bit everything. Oh, it's the latest on the Breakfast Club. Talk to me, LL Cool Bay. Lauren LaRosa.
Lauren LaRosa
Yes. Good morning. So we've been talking a lot about Jay Z and him trying to bring the casino to Times Square in partnership with Caesars Entertainment and SL Green. Well, yesterday, Wednesday, a state board rejected the Times Square casino bid from Jay Z in ROC Nation. And those companies that I mentioned and they had planned and proposed to do this at 1515 Broadway. And you know, the community advisory board decided in a 4 to vote that this wasn't something that was going to happen. Now, we do have audio from a meeting that went yesterday following this decision. Let's take a listen to that.
Charlamagne Tha God
You know it. We met the standard and then some. And the only one with courage to stand up is the governor and the mayor appointees. And everybody else runs and hides, go run and hide. Because what you did, the benefits you.
Matthew McConaughey
Denied this community and this city and.
Charlamagne Tha God
State, you have to live with that history forever. If it was meant to be, it would have been. But I just wonder, how does that state board justify not wanting all those hundreds of millions of dollars being invest into that community? Like, who's gonna make that kind of investment into Times Square in that community now?
Lauren LaRosa
For sure.
Charlamagne Tha God
Like, and in the Broadway. And I love going to Broadway. I go to Broadway plays all the time. I take my daughter to Broadway plays. But that Broadway audience is very, very old. I don't know if Broadway is attracting a, a younger audience. So what's gonna happen five years from now? What's Times Square gonna look like?
Lauren LaRosa
I'm not for sure. I, I can tell you though. Well, first of all, that audio, that was sl, the ce, the CEO of SL GRE Day. And it was a six person, a six person committee that he was speaking to that decided to make that vote. Now I will tell you, people are pretty upset. Like there are people who are upset that people even wanted this to happen in the first place, as we know. But there are people that feel like it should have happened, but there are people who are mad that things like this are happening, that, you know, this CEO, but then also Des Perez, who is Jay Z's right hand, are coming out and making statements about this stating that, you know, this is something that the community needed. So we received a statement from ROC Nation CEO Desiree Perez and she was responding to the bid being denied. And she said thank you to Governor Hochul and Mayor Adams for standing up for nyc. Unfortunately, not every politician has the courage and the foresight to do what's right for their constituents.
Charlamagne Tha God
Like I said, five Years from now, what is Times Square gonna look like? Who is gonna make this kind of investment in the Times Square? When you look at all the benefits that they were gonna provide, all of the dollars that they were gonna provide, where is that money gonna come from there? Like, what is Times Square gonna look like five years from now?
Tesla Figaro
And can I say this just since I'm sitting on here?
Charlamagne Tha God
Go ahead. Tesla Figueroa is in here.
Lauren LaRosa
Yes.
Tesla Figaro
Yeah. I got to say this because we're talking about people being appointed and voting. This is why voting local matters, you know, so we spent a lot of time talking about what's going on with the president, what's going on with Congress. This is what actually makes a difference, guys. Local politics. When you talk about six people on a board being able to make this type of decision of billions of dollars, this is how you look into who got appointed, how did they get on the board? How do you vote them in or out? So just wanted to throw that out there, guys. If you want to make a difference, get involved in the local level.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah. And that's a conversation that's been started as well, too, from this is that voting conversation. Now, in other New York City news, we talked yesterday about Cardi B expecting her baby with Stefan Diggs. Now, Cardi B. Is, you know, explaining a bit of how these next couple months are about to look, because people are like, look, you got a brand new baby. How is tour even about to happen? Let's take a listen to Cardi.
Matthew McConaughey
I'm just here to remind y' all.
Lauren LaRosa
That my album comes out September 19th. It's going to be on all platforms, and on February 11th, it will be.
Charlamagne Tha God
The first day of my tour. Little Miss Drama.
Lauren LaRosa
I want this.
Tesla Figaro
I'm in the third floor in the.
Charlamagne Tha God
Bronx, and I need to get the one out.
Lauren LaRosa
I've been waking up at 6am and.
Tesla Figaro
Going to bed at 2am I've been going overseas.
Charlamagne Tha God
I did fashion shows. I did music videos.
Tesla Figaro
After this album run, it's straight to exercising.
Lauren LaRosa
It's straight to dance classes.
Charlamagne Tha God
When the baby come out, my body.
Tesla Figaro
Will be living Beatles and straight rehearsals.
Charlamagne Tha God
With all my dancers.
Tesla Figaro
I'm happy, my man is happy.
Charlamagne Tha God
I'm very excited for this chapter in life and we all a little bit nosy.
Lauren LaRosa
But since y' all is in my business, if you team girl, get this vinyl. This is a pretty and petty vinyl, all right?
Charlamagne Tha God
But if you team boy, you get.
Tesla Figaro
The Imaginary Players version.
Lauren LaRosa
If y' all gonna be the aunties.
Tesla Figaro
And uncles support that got four kids.
Charlamagne Tha God
Now, you know you can order Body album on Doordash.
Lauren LaRosa
I told you that.
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, you did?
Lauren LaRosa
You don't listen to nothing I say up here.
Charlamagne Tha God
I clearly did.
Lauren LaRosa
If I just repeated it, not only did I tell you, but when I told you. I don't know if like we as the fans caught it early because I saw it and then I went on Doordash and it wasn't there anymore. And then an announcement came later that night, so we was a bit early on the conversation.
Charlamagne Tha God
I think that is part of a phenomenal role. I've thoroughly enjoyed Barney's rollout, but I love the fact that you can order her album on Doordash. Because we live in a society nowadays. You know, you can build it and they may come, but if you do build it, you just better. You better off meeting them where they are.
Lauren LaRosa
Yes, but also too, that's a part of the. So she has a song, Bodega. Bodega baddie.
Tesla Figaro
So.
Lauren LaRosa
And you know, she went uptown to the Bronx. So bodega makes a lot of sense for that reason as well too. In addition to what you're saying now, Ted, you would ask me, Stefan Diggs, what has he had to say? Because you gotta think that they're probably relieved at this point. Cardi B posted a photo of them. It's like a selfie. It looks like he might have took the photo. And her arms is wrapped around them and they're happy. But Stefan Diggs was acting about the news and here's what he had to say. Let's take a listen.
Matthew McConaughey
The baby rumors. Who is that you?
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, my personal life. I told you about that. I won't talk too much about my personal life, but I heard about it. Any celebrations that we'll see in the. That's a great answer. I respect him, you know, not one people in his personal life, but when you are initially asked that. Ask that question, you can't say who is that? Play it again, Red. Play it again. Right? Play it one more time. Right? Just play it one more time. Time.
Matthew McConaughey
The who the baby rumors.
Charlamagne Tha God
Who is that to me? Who is that? Oh, my personal life. When somebody asks you about a baby on the way. Okay. Any celebrations, I mean, you should know who you got pregnant.
Lauren LaRosa
He know, but he trying to throw it off. Like what?
Charlamagne Tha God
But I'm just saying you got to get to that point fast that I don't want people in my personal life. You can't.
Lauren LaRosa
You definitely should know who you got pregnant.
Charlamagne Tha God
Exactly.
Lauren LaRosa
She can't afford no games right now. Okay, Now, I wanted to Print out the photo for you to see. Tez of them. Yes. When she posted this photo yesterday, I literally. I don't. I listen, I breathe the sigh of relief for her because I can't imagine walking around. But that video of of Stefan Diggs was prior to him going to practice, about to start work, so he probably just didn't want to get into all the things. But congratulations to them.
Tesla Figaro
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Charlamagne Tha God
We always do that. Leave Offset alone. Offset is enjoying his life. He out there on tour with NBA young boy. He got a great album out. Like Offset doing his thing. This thing got nothing.
Tesla Figaro
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Lauren LaRosa
Well, if it did hurt, I'm pretty sure he's known before we knew, you know, so well.
Tesla Figaro
Oh well, he.
Charlamagne Tha God
T messy self. Get ready for front page news.
Tesla Figaro
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Charlamagne Tha God
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Lauren LaRosa
It's a fair question.
Charlamagne Tha God
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Tesla Figaro
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See, they got it in. She got a whole baby girl.
Tesla Figaro
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Charlamagne Tha God
We got front page news coming up next with Tesla Figaro and Matthew McConaughey will be joining us next. Now, next hour, it's the Breakfast Club. You're checking out the Breakfast Club? Yep. It's the world's most dangerous morning show, the Breakfast Club. It's time for front page news. Tonight the Buffalo Bills play the Miami Dolphins at 8:15pm Eastern on Amazon Prime Video. And jets quarterback Justin Fields will be out for Week 3's game versus the Tampa Bay Buccaneers due a. Due to a concussion. Tyrod Taylor will make his first off for the Jets. Red, you a Jets fan? Are you excited about that? I mean, they're gonna lose it all the way, but damn.
Tesla Figaro
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Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, I'm a cowboy fan, but I, I, I at least every week got a little bit of hope. Jets fans don't have any hope. Damn. Jesus Christ. Tesla Figueroa is here for front page news. Good morning, Tess.
Tesla Figaro
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Charlamagne Tha God
The God.
Tesla Figaro
Lauren LaRosa.
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What we got? What we got?
Tesla Figaro
Yeah, let's talk about President Trump celebrating. Jimmy Kimmel's off the air. He was yanked off the air yesterday. Guys, last minute staff didn't even know. They just pulled him off. He is not on the air indefinitely so that we don't know if he'll be coming back. Not coming back. But right now there is no show because they said that he. They didn't like his comments about the assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk. Now on Truth Social, Donald Trump said that. Great news for America that the ratings challenge Jimmy Kimmel show is canceled. You may be asking, Lauren, because I know I did. I wanted to know, what did he actually say? Like, it must have been something like, so bad. So I went, looked it up like everybody else did, and I. I'mma ask y' all if y' all thought it was bad or not, but we're gonna take a listen. It was about five minutes, you know, long. He said that conservatives were trying to score political points off Kirk's death. He joked about how Trump was mourning Kirk. Kirk's death. He said it was like a four. How a four year old mourns. Let's take a listen.
Charlamagne Tha God
But on a human level, you can see how hard the President is taking this. My condolences on the loft of your friend Charlie Kirk. May I ask, sir, personally, how are you holding up over the last day and a half, sir? I think very good.
Matthew McConaughey
And by the way, right there, you see all the trucks, they just started construction of the new ballroom for the White House, which is something they've been.
Charlamagne Tha God
Trying to get, as you know, for about 150 years.
Lauren LaRosa
And.
Charlamagne Tha God
And it's gonna be a beauty. Yes.
Matthew McConaughey
He's at the fourth stage of grief. Construction, demolition, construction.
Charlamagne Tha God
This is not how an adult grieves the murderer of someone he called a friend. I mean, for an administration that doesn't like being labeled authoritarian, they damn sure do a lot of authoritarian, authoritarian things.
Tesla Figaro
Would you say this is get back when, you know, during the woke era, when everybody was getting canceled and people were getting off shows and people had to come. Do you think this is kind of like. Cause remember they said to anybody that complains about free speech in the snowflake.
Charlamagne Tha God
That's what I'm saying. It could, it could be get back, but it's very hypocritical of them if it is. You know what I mean? Because they were the party that was anti cancer, anti cancel culture. They was the party that was, you know, supposed to be for freedom of speech. So for them to be doing stuff like this now, even if it is get back, it's very, very, very hypocritical.
Tesla Figaro
Well, Donald Trump did say he was gonna be their retribution.
Charlamagne Tha God
He definitely did.
Tesla Figaro
So it kind of lied. It tracks.
Charlamagne Tha God
It's just interesting to see the FCC chair get on a podcast and Just straight up say that, you know, the FCC could move to revoke ABC affiliate licenses as a punishment for what Jimmy Kimmel said.
Tesla Figaro
You called it though a long time ago. You said that this was, this was absolutely something that's gonna happen. And as a result of the comments, this is what I really found. Just like, wow, you know, they're gonna do a one hour special with Charlie Kirk on Friday during Jimmy Kimmel's time slot. So not only they taking off the air, they said we're gonna use this hour, you know, on Friday to highlight his work. And they said it's not enough that, that he's off the air. They also want him to apologize to the family. They told him you need to break bread. We want a meaningful personal donation. That means we want a real check. This is what the ABC is saying, our sinclair is saying that they want him to do before they even consider bringing Jimmy back on the air. Remember we talked about on Monday, we talked about JD Van saying that just for everyday regular folks that people need to call people's job if they see them saying something out of pocket. We talked about that on Monday. So I did reach out to attorney Sue Ann Robinson with the Bancroft law firm. I wanted to ask what this advice does she have just for everyday people? Because I think people think this is just a celebrity thing and it's not when you have the Vice President United States telling you to fire people who are making comments. And she said that you need to consider if the juice is worth the squeeze. She said legally at will employment states can fire you for any reason, she says. So keeping it real can absolutely grow, go wrong and there's no laws to protect you. I thought that was important, Lauren, because a lot of people in the comments kept saying, oh, you can sue. Oh, you can sue. No, first amendment with private companies does not exist. You have no rights. Pretty much they can decide to do whatever they want to do. So I thought that was important.
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Are worth it for us to have our Second Amendment rights. So I know a lot of Republicans are looking at him like, you know, oh, you know, that's what, that's what he, that's what he stood for. The reality of the situation is you gotta look and say to yourself, is God trying to tell you something? If you're. Because Republicans are supposed to be, you know, the party of God as well, if he said that, but then you're watching him have a conversation, and as soon as he starts talking about guns, he gets shot. At some point, don't you say to yourself, damn, maybe God wants us to have a conversation about gun violence.
Tesla Figaro
Right. Which is what I find interesting because in the congressional hearings, they're not addressing any of that. So I don't know if they're going to, you know, this going to be something that Democrats are going to actually use to talk about as the midterms are coming up. You know, it's certainly a conversation starter. They've been focused on so many other things, but I'm wondering when that conversation is going to come up. But, you know, normally when somebody gets shot, they talk about guns and they say you're politicizing, you're talking to, you know, talking about guns at the wrong time. And I think because there's just so much about Charlie Kirk, period, that just infuriated people, I think people are afraid to have a conversation.
Charlamagne Tha God
But Charlie Kirk is a person that embraced this debate, Right? So if this man, you know, got shot, I think it's a valid point to ask the question, is it worth it? Okay. Because Charlie Kirk said it's worth it to have some gun deaths. Right. And by the way, he's, I'm not gonna say it's worth it, but he's Right. There are going to be some gun deaths when you have, you know, the, the Second Amendment rights. But is it worth it when it's somebody you love, or is it worth it when it's your own life? That's what you're all. That's what we're all trying to prevent. Right. We're trying to prevent as many deaths as possible. And it only, it always hits home when it's. I want to say you, but of course you're gone. But, you know, it always hits home when it's your, your family or somebody you love. So have that debate. Is it really worth it? Like, you know, how can we slow down?
Tesla Figaro
And by the way.
Charlamagne Tha God
I'm too late all day.
Tesla Figaro
Yeah. All day.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, I'm too late all day. But I'm just, I just, I just want. I think it's worth the debate. Charlie Kirk said it's worth it. I ask a valid question. Is it worth it when it's you. You are somebody that you love. And I just think that it's. You're doing him a disservice by at least not having the conversation about gun violence. Because if you're. I mean, if I wrote that in the script, you wouldn't believe me. If I wrote the script, this man was giving a speech about gun violence and then he got shot. Y' all wouldn't believe me. Clearly, God is trying to tell us something and I think people missing the message.
Tesla Figaro
Well, on a positive note, because everything's been so dark, I do like to close that something positive. I want to send a shout out to HBCU North Carolina, a nice. For surpassing their own record. They are the largest HBCU shout out to the HBCUs in the building, but they have a little bit over 15,000 students and so just wanted to show them some love that, that the folks are still, you know, doing their thing and enrolling in the HBCUs and shout out to my HBCU FAMU College of Law.
Charlamagne Tha God
Absolutely, absolutely. Listen, all I know is tonight at 10pm Abby Phillips. I hope Scott, I hope Scott is on there.
Tesla Figaro
Everybody want me, want me to sit next to Scott. Everybody's like, please let Scott be on something.
Charlamagne Tha God
Tell Scott I said, what's up?
Lauren LaRosa
That you don't know.
Tesla Figaro
It's always like that, actually. Okay, so you. When, when we're doing news of the day commentary, we never know who it is until maybe a couple hours before and you don't know the topic. So news of the day commentary is literally being ready every day. Yes, absolutely. That's actually a very normal thing. Charlemagne knows that, though.
Charlamagne Tha God
Absolutely. Listen, I find Scott Jennings entertaining. So, you know, and Abby does put together a great panel of voices, and I'm glad that she, you know, tapped in and got you on.
Tesla Figaro
It's like a proud brother. You want to see me crash?
Charlamagne Tha God
No, I don't want to see you crash out. But Abby is one of the few people who takes the. Takes the time to put diverse voices on the panel, and she actually puts people on there who aren't afraid to tell the truth.
Tesla Figaro
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Charlamagne Tha God
I'm not a nice guy. I'm a gay bad guy.
Lauren LaRosa
A sleaze bag.
Charlamagne Tha God
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Charlamagne Tha God
And broke. Yes, definitely, definitely broke.
Lauren LaRosa
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Charlamagne Tha God
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Tesla Figaro
Follow me on Instagram. Tesla, Figaro. Guys, make sure you always tap in. I appreciate being here. It's been. Been a nice weekend. Thank you for letting me be here in person.
Charlamagne Tha God
Absolutely. It's the Breakfast Club. The Breakfast Club. Yeah. This is the world's most dangerous morning show. The Breakfast Club. Charlamagne. The God. Just hilarious. DJ Envy is not here, but lo behold and LaRosa is. And you know, every now and then here on the Breakfast Club, we like to give up and coming talent a shot. And today we have a man who is entering this industry and trying his hand at poetry. He goes by the name of Matthew. Is that. Is that McConaugh.
Matthew McConaughey
McConaughey.
Charlamagne Tha God
McConaughey.
Matthew McConaughey
Rhymes with what would. Madonna.
Charlamagne Tha God
How are you, man?
Matthew McConaughey
I'm good, man. Good morning.
Charlamagne Tha God
He's got a new book out, Poems and Prayers available now. Most folks know you for movies, they know you you for speeches. I don't know if they necessarily know you for poetry. What made you want to put your thoughts into poems and prayers instead of another book?
Matthew McConaughey
On the last few years, I started finding myself getting a little bit cynical, meaning doubt was creeping in on me on my own faith, belief in myself and, you know, mankind. I'm looking at the news, I'm looking at leadership, and I'm going like, huh. All right. Seems the jackpot goes to the winner no matter if they lie, cheat, and steal to get it. Seems a lot of us are kicking the game when it feel going, someone's moving the goal post, and, you know, are we ready to say, okay, that's how it is? And I think this doubt crept in on me. I started to say, well, maybe that's just how it is. That scared me. And then, thankfully, it then pissed me off. I said, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not ready to wave the white flag here and concede and say, that's the way things are going. So since I wasn't finding belief in reality and evidence, I said, you know what? I'm going to go to dreams and ideals, poems, prayers, and say, you know, let's not forget that beginner's mind, McConaughey, and let's grab a hold of those ideals and try to make those a reality. And because, you know, that cynicism, I'd always swore to myself, you know, you born, you're innocent, then you're naive, then you're skeptical because you learn some things and you're discerning and make some decisions. And the next step, though, seems to be when we go over the cliff to being cynical.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
Matthew McConaughey
Doubting people, not giving the benefit of the doubt. You start doing that enough, you know what happens? You look in the mirror, you do the same damn thing with yourself.
Charlamagne Tha God
Absolutely.
Matthew McConaughey
And so it's an early, early death. And so that's what I found myself getting. So I went to poems and prayers.
Charlamagne Tha God
You said something earlier. You said, you know, people think that they're getting the jackpot here.
Matthew McConaughey
Right.
Charlamagne Tha God
But you got a poem in the book called the Other Day, I Wrote a. Wrote God a letter. And I feel like that's what you have to do. You have to return back to the source. Because the jackpot probably isn't here, but we consider the jackpot.
Matthew McConaughey
It's immortal.
Charlamagne Tha God
Exactly. It's.
Matthew McConaughey
It's. It's a. It's a talisman or it's. It's. It's something that we. That we bow down to, and we're sold it every day as being the chalice. That's right. Which I think we got to think longer, further, project further. Believing God or not. I think we got to do that, you know, because I'm talking about belief. For me, I'm working on my belief in God. But I think if anybody believes in their better self, their kids, or if you don't know what to believe in, like, say, ask yourself who or what you die for. Start there. That's a good spot. Probably what you ought to be living more for. You Know, double down on that bet. You know, as a believer myself in God, I'm. I've got a hunch and I'm playing for a, you know, trying to cross an immortal. Immortal finish line. More than just the ones that are. You can win right here.
Charlamagne Tha God
That's right.
Tesla Figaro
When I was this book a passion.
Charlamagne Tha God
Project for you because you actually have.
Lauren LaRosa
A movie coming out on Friday, but.
Charlamagne Tha God
You'Re instead promoting a book.
Lauren LaRosa
Was this passion project.
Matthew McConaughey
Yeah, I mean, look, like I said, I wrote it because the, you know, I was tired of looking at the evidence and I didn't feel like writing another book like Greenlights, but this would be a sister of Greenlights. Yeah, I wrote it. It came out. All of a sudden it was at the same time, hey, that's going to come out. You got a movie coming out. Lost Bus at the same time. Why don't we parlay that situation, hit the road, talk about points of prayers, do some shows. Which I did my first show last night in Brooklyn, and at the same time, talk about the lost bus.
Charlamagne Tha God
Did people snap after you did your poem in Brooklyn?
Matthew McConaughey
I don't think it had any snap. I don't know.
Lauren LaRosa
When you finished, were they just quiet?
Matthew McConaughey
They. They stood and applauded. It was. It was cool. It was first show to get it on its feet. And. Yeah, I'm doing a little tour with this. And we did Brooklyn last night. And I go out and I give like an opening 25 minute sermon. Morning, setting the table. Then I invite a musical guest out and they're playing scores underneath about 12 of the poems. Last night, John Bon Jovi came out, going to Nashville today. And Lucas Nelson, I don't like that.
Charlamagne Tha God
Little light flex you did. That's just nothing, right?
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah, yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
We came out right.
Matthew McConaughey
We jammed. Going to Nashville tonight. Lucas Nelson, friend of mine's coming out.
Charlamagne Tha God
Out.
Matthew McConaughey
Go to Tulsa from there. Zach Bryan coming out. Go to la. John Mayer is coming out. And then I returned to Austin and my hometown and John Batiste.
Charlamagne Tha God
Up and comers. Yeah.
Matthew McConaughey
And all I said was, can I get a couple of chords under the reeds? Kind of underscore and I. We'll see how they go. But last night, John, my job, he did a hell of a lot more than put up a couple of chords down. He wrote some songs. Wow, neat.
Lauren LaRosa
I read somewhere, tell me if this is true at one point in time, because you're big on God now and your faith, you talk a lot about it, but you didn't believe in a God at one point.
Matthew McConaughey
I've had my, my years of not believing. I've had a couple of them that went on for probably two years where I was like, nope, self reliance is it. I'm responsible for me. I'm not relying on any more fate and forgiveness and all that I've gotta get. I've got. It's about me. I gotta be self reliant. And I look back, I'm glad I did it. And they were very healthy for me. And when I came back to God, I heard God applauding, going, thank you for having your hands on the wheel. Thank you for having the courage to go. It is on you. Because I got too many people relying on fate alone. And it is a combination. And I don't think that, you know, we. Self reliance and faith usually are talked about. We can't, they butt heads. And I don't, my hunch is they don't, is that it's both. You know, it's free will and it's fate. And while, you know, we do something, is it already written divinely? Maybe. But do we have something to do with it? And do we need to have our hands on the wheel with the choices we make? And they are up to us. I believe so as well.
Charlamagne Tha God
So did you have faith and you lost it and got it back or you never had it and then.
Matthew McConaughey
No, had it.
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay.
Matthew McConaughey
Strong. But then also, you know, questioning that, you know, you grow up, you know, it becomes a. Sometimes it's a ritual. You know, there's many sermons from my preacher on Sunday that I don't, wasn't listening to what he said. But the ritual of getting up on Sunday morning, going to church, you know, being reminded and being humbled that you're at most number two today. And then prayers before meals, that ritual, you know, you get older, you start to question, well, okay, what did that mean? And I want it to be more than just ingrained and me like, like getting married. I didn't want to ask Camilla to get married because it's the thing to do. I wanted to wait until I felt like, okay, now that's a covenant I want to, I want to make with God and Camilla. We want to go forward and I want to take that adventure forward. So the same thing with faith, I've questioned it along the way. And I love philosophy and I love science, you know what I mean? And I'm not sure with the Bible what to do with the burning bush, but there's a whole lot of ethics and ways to live and approach life and signpost in it that Whether you're agnostic, whether you believe or not, there's a lot of great things to find in that book as well as the Quran and many other books. So I've questioned my faith along the way in the existence of God.
Charlamagne Tha God
What brought you back? Was it like a Mel Gibsons and signs moment? Sure.
Matthew McConaughey
Okay. So one time was. Was quite literal.
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay.
Matthew McConaughey
It was the lightning bolt in the middle of a blue sky summer that I'm like, what cloud did that come from? Where it shook my floor, where mother nature got or whatever reminded me. Okay, just letting you know. Glad you, glad you think it's all on you. I'm reminding you that you just little spec right now. You know, actual lightning bolt. Actual. Yeah. I was out and out and out in the middle of the desert.
Charlamagne Tha God
I had.
Matthew McConaughey
I had a micro climate cloud come over this little cabin. I was in the desert. This was on Mother's day. It was 82 degrees at noon and at 2pm this cloud came over. It rained, it hailed, it snowed on me in a 100 yard circumference around the cabin. I was at white snow 2 inches deep and lightning bolts on Mother's Day.
Lauren LaRosa
Like you were awake and you felt snow. Like this happened.
Matthew McConaughey
This is real now that I. And I was completely sober. No. I was having my first cup of coffee watching this go down. And I then looked up and as I said, walked to the edge. It was only around the cabin I was at. I went into town. Nobody. I was like, man, it snowed. Where was it? Nobody did snow. What are you talking about? And I'm taking pictures and like when's that from? I was like, that's today.
Charlamagne Tha God
Wow.
Matthew McConaughey
And it was like, it's impossible. That couldn't have happened. I was like, it happened on top of me. And that was right at the time I went out and again the lightning bolt at the time when I'm saying I don't believe.
Charlamagne Tha God
Bam.
Matthew McConaughey
Wow. And I went, oh, excuse me. Maybe I need to open myself up here. I hear you, I hear you. You know, and he was saying, just checking in on you, big boy. He thought you, you got it going. I appreciate it, but don't get too big for your British.
Charlamagne Tha God
We got a special guest in the building. Mr. Matthew McConaughey is here talking his new book, Poems and prayers.
Lauren LaRosa
Lauren LaRosa, what has been like the hardest time that you had to face yourself?
Matthew McConaughey
Well, for the first one that comes to mind, probably be 15 years ago. I was doing rom coms and I was a go to guy in Rom Coms and I enjoyed them. But in my real life, I'd met Camilla, fall in love with her. She was not pregnant with our first child. If you got kids, you know, that's a real vital time. Life's, life's. Yeah, you, you know, and as a man, I don't think there's any time a man's more masculine than with the birth of a first child or the heart, head, body and loins are more aligned then than ever. So my life was very vital. My work felt like, oh, I could get up and go do that tomorrow morning.
Charlamagne Tha God
It's easy.
Matthew McConaughey
Nothing wrong with that. But I was looking for my work to challenge. Boy, could that be. Is maybe as exciting as and as vital as my life is. And mind you, I did look in the mirror and say, be damn glad, McConaughey, that you feel like your life is more vital than your work, not the other way around. But can we get find some work that can be as vital as my life. So I wanted to do dramas. That's where the work I wanted to do. Hollywood says, no sir, stay in your lane. Said, I'll take a pay cut. They said, and I don't care, stay in your lane. So I said, all right, I can't do what I want to do. I'm going to stop doing what I've been doing. So went to Texas with Camilla. She's pregnant. We said, stepping out, told my agent, no more rom com. Da, da da da. I said, okay. And I remember Camilla and I saying, look, this, you don't know how long you're gonna go without work. This could be a drive spell for a while. I might have just wrote myself a one way ticket.
Charlamagne Tha God
Right?
Matthew McConaughey
All right, we got real. I hear you. And I'm going, I hear you. Plus I gotta accomplish stuff for my own significance. And now what am I gonna do? And I ain't gonna go down to see, just, you know, start making chimes for a living, you know. So I'm, I'm out of the amount of rom coms I'm, I'm not on the beach anymore shirtless, which kind of looked like I was in a rom com in real life as well, right? And I got nothing coming in. My agent's like, man, I hadn't heard your name in five months, etc. Etc. Etc.
Charlamagne Tha God
Damn.
Matthew McConaughey
Yeah. So now we get into 12 months, we're a year no work. I'm starting to think maybe I did write myself a one way ticket out of Hollywood. Maybe I need to look for another vocation. Maybe I'm going back to law school, go to. To become a lawyer. Maybe I'll become a teacher. 18 months go by, check this out, and I think you'll. You'll know exactly what I'm talking about when I say this. This rom com action comes, script comes in. Eight million dollar offer. I read it. I said, no, thank you. They come back, 10 million dollar offer. I said, no, thank you. They come back, 12 million dollar offer. I said, no, thank you. They come back, 14.5 million dollar offer. Offer. I said, let me read that thing again. So I opened it up. Same script as 8 million dollar offer, but it was better. I can see myself making this work.
Charlamagne Tha God
Did your wife know you was turning it down.
Matthew McConaughey
Now? My brothers thought I was bugging. My brothers were like, what is your major malfunction? But I had made the decision, and Camille and I made the decision. There wasn't. It was non negotiable. I wasn't going back. Anyway. I read it again. It was better, but I ultimately said, no, thank you. And I think that sent a signal after eight months of being out of Hollywood that, oh, oh, McConaughey ain't bluffing. You know what I mean? I don't know what he's doing, but he's playing offense. He's turned down 14 5. That's not a receding move to do that. He's up to something. So you Parlay that declining 14:5 along with 18 months, which turns to 20 months out of Hollywood, out of rom coms, not in the theater, not in your living room, all of a sudden. Well, you know who'd be a novel kind of interesting new good idea for this drama? Killer Joe or Mud or Lincoln Lawyer, Dallas Buyers Club. True Detective McConaughey.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah. Wow.
Matthew McConaughey
But only because I unbranded because I was gone. I had to go get an anonymous. You know what I mean?
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah. What type of prayers were you saying during that time? Because that's a lot of money.
Matthew McConaughey
No, I needed to.
Charlamagne Tha God
I.
Matthew McConaughey
Trust me, that. That the old bottle on the shelf started looking better earlier and earlier in the day, too. You know, I was. I lost my.
Charlamagne Tha God
My work, man.
Matthew McConaughey
It's got to work for significance, and I didn't have it.
Charlamagne Tha God
You got depressed.
Matthew McConaughey
No, I didn't get depressed. I didn't get depressed because thankfully I got a newborn. And the only thing I ever wanted to be, no I've ever wanted to be in life, is his father.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
Matthew McConaughey
So anytime I focused on our son, Levi, as a newborn and a new life brought in, that really Kept my compass grounded. It was, look, long days, you know, without cheapness of my own stuff. But I had that as an anchor.
Charlamagne Tha God
Man, that's such an incredible story because I, you know, when I think about you going from rom com to an Oscar winning dramatic actor, I always wondered what was the pivot or how did you know it was time to pivot? And just to know it was just an intentional decision to want to be taken serious was that's, that's powerful.
Matthew McConaughey
That that was it. And I had to step out and it was, it was 20 months total that I was out. And trust me, like I said, I did think that I just, I think I wrote myself a one way ticket out of Hollywood.
Charlamagne Tha God
What did that teach you about the power of intention?
Matthew McConaughey
That there's certain decision, like that decision to do that that came, that hit me at 4:00am you know, that the fact that I wasn't feeling alive in my work, the fact that it was paling in comparison to how wonderfully dramatic my life was, that was clear to me that that's what I needed to make a change. It was a non negotiable. So once again, once those truths hit as we talked about earlier and you go, I know that's true for me in my soul. But now I'm going to re engage with the masses and slowly that onion can get peeled and you start to go, well, I'll come. Maybe I could, you know, I didn't. It's very clear. It's like, no, this is, I'm not going back on the idea if that, if nothing would have come at 20 months, I was not going to go back and do what I'd done. I'd be doing something different. If nothing had come since then, I would be doing something different. My life right now. I was not going to go back. So the idea that of not flinching once you made a decision and you cannot endure a situation and you can also seem to find after a while, like after 15 months of nothing from going out of my mind, all of a sudden kind of start to get a little honor and charge and filled up with like the endurance of it. It's almost like, okay, the longer this goes, I gotta hunt the reward on the other side. Getting bigger with every day. I'm going through this penance drought.
Charlamagne Tha God
Wow.
Matthew McConaughey
I got a feeling that the, that, that there's a bigger reward over there. I'm in this for the long game.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
Matthew McConaughey
And you know, thankfully it all came back around. I didn't have anything to do that besides being out of Hollywood. But the offers came in for the work I wanted to do. But. But making a decision, being clear on it, and then saying as I. I know this in projecting ahead, it's like, Covid. All right, I think we did. My family did pretty good in Covet. And one of the things I think was when it came, we sat down, I told the kids, plan on this being this way for 10 years. What?
Charlamagne Tha God
Damn.
Matthew McConaughey
So think it's going to be longer. And then when it's over in four years, you're like, oh, I was rolling. I could have handled more. Yeah, right. So I was thinking it could be worse than it was going to be. I was thinking that I may be in a drought and not get any offers for five years, and, hell, I'm going to have to find something else to do. Well, luckily, it comes in two years work.
Charlamagne Tha God
Same. You know, that's Psalm 46, 10. Be still and know that I am God. Like, sometimes you just got to be.
Matthew McConaughey
Still and hold it. That's right. And hold it. Sometimes you change by staying the same, and the world does this, and it comes right back to the baseline that you're on going, oh, you're brand new. And you're like, no, I've been right here. That's right. I just held. You know what I mean? Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
We got a special guest in the building. His name is Mr. Matthew McConaughey. He's got a new book, Poems and Prayers, and a new movie out tomorrow. Tomorrow called the Lost Bus. Jessalaris, you got a question?
Lauren LaRosa
When you transitioned into drama? Yeah, Matthew McConaughey, have any.
Tesla Figaro
Did any of your roles alter your perception of reality?
Matthew McConaughey
Did any of my roles alter my perception of reality? I will say this. I kind of flipped the script. Remember, earlier, I was saying my life was so vital, my work was paling. The work got so vital that all of a sudden I was like. I had a little moment, you know, I was like, oh, my life's not as vital as my work.
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, fiction.
Matthew McConaughey
Playing these other characters that are written, kind of getting off to them more than I'm getting off being me in the documentary that is my life. That scared me a little bit, too, which is why I started writing and why I wrote Green Lights and why I'm writing and pulling the prison. I tried. Been challenging myself for the last six years, going, all right, you know, you go. You go out. You do in someone else's script written by somebody else, directed by someone else, lens in a camera by someone else, and edited by someone else. That's four filters from your raw expression. So I was like, let's get rid of some filters here. And who are you in life, McConaughey, in this documentary where action has been called the day you were born and cuts can be called the day you leave this life, what are you doing live in this live show where hands of time are recording it? And that's what I've been the last six years, kind of challenging myself. So I go to a book now. There is one filter with the book because it's a written word.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
The performance.
Matthew McConaughey
Right. There's no filter that's direct to the audience. So it was one filter. But I wanted to see if the written word and I could tell some personal stories that could be entertaining that people could see themselves in and go. And then go look in the mirror and go, go, you did that. Good job, McConaughey. Or, you know, here's where you could have made it even more true or better. And I. And I wanted. Need that. So that's. That's sort of a phase I'm in now where I'm still doing work. Went. Made Lost Bus, made another one called the Rivals of Mzai. And I tell you, I went back to. You know, it's been six years since I've acted in a role I won, Forgot how much I enjoyed it. And two, forgot how much it feels like a vacation because it's a singular focus. And I've been compartmentalizing more the last six years, taking on more different things, checking out leadership roles, writing books, family, et cetera. But the singular focus of going to act and going. I'm obsessed. And all I. I revere this craft enough to be obsessed with my man, this character. And every idle moment I've got. I've got work I can do to tell more the truth on this character. And I give myself three months to do that. That sort of blinders.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah.
Matthew McConaughey
And thank you for my wife that when I go out the door every morning, she's got the kids. Just don't look over your shoulder. Go conquer. I got the handle. Big, big help. But I'm able to just singly focus when I go act. And I missed. It felt like a vacation.
Charlamagne Tha God
Why didn't the Yellowstone spin off happen?
Matthew McConaughey
So we talked about it, Taylor and I. It just never. It never came to. I never saw a script I wanted to see. You know, what the. The idea was good. It just never got to script form. So Taylor and I continue to talk about what might be the best way to work together.
Charlamagne Tha God
So you were. You were attached to it like it was actually gonna happen. I remember that was the.
Matthew McConaughey
Well, I mean, I don't. I was. It came out. I'm always curious about this because it came out my attachment, which I would never sign anything. It wasn't any real attachment. Just Taylor and I creatively talking about it could be a good idea. Right. But it was interesting because it came out in the news, in the trades about the same time Coster's leaving. So I don't know if it was publicly put out there to sort of counterbalance. We got the exit of our guy Costner, who we've all known. So let's make sure it looks like we've got somebody else coming in that we can be excited about. So there was never a contract or anything. It was just he and I. He and I talking about it.
Charlamagne Tha God
And what about this Barbie sequel? Are you really gonna be in the Barbie?
Matthew McConaughey
Yeah, man. I don't know. Someone came up with that.
Charlamagne Tha God
No, someone just.
Matthew McConaughey
I think American Ferrer. Just, like, who's in Lost buzz with me. I think she made mentioning it on some talk show going, you could be the king of kins. And someone goes, yes, I can put a font to that. Hey, let's put a picture up. All of a sudden, I saw the show. We said yesterday, I'm on some show, and I'm there in a white suit to King Kens. That's as real as that is.
Lauren LaRosa
Would you do it?
Matthew McConaughey
I don't know. It sounds like it could be fun.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah.
Tesla Figaro
You know, it'd be good for the kids.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
Matthew McConaughey
Oh, yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
I didn't realize they told us to wrap five minutes ago. So my last question. If you could go back and talk to the version of yourself that first said. All right, all right, all right. Out. What would you tell that person?
Matthew McConaughey
Daisy confused, 1990. First scene I was ever in in a movie.
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay.
Matthew McConaughey
And tell you where it's from. I'm wasn't even supposed to work that night. I'd never acted before. I'd never been on screen. All right, so all of a sudden, I'm in this car getting a lavalier mic put on me. And the scene is, I'm gonna try to pick up this redheaded intellectual who's played by Marissa Rubici, and she's got nerds in the car. And I'm Wooderson, who's hanging out at school, man. And I'm older, but I still like the high school girl world. So pull up and pick her up. Nothing's written. Gonna improvise.
Charlamagne Tha God
This.
Matthew McConaughey
Well, as I'm getting the mic put on me, I'm starting to get a little nervous.
Charlamagne Tha God
Make sure you acting with that line, because they'll take that out of context and put that on the Internet.
Matthew McConaughey
That's Waterson.
Charlamagne Tha God
And everything.
Matthew McConaughey
Everything I'm about to say. Remember us actors talking, talking. The first person from our characters. There's plenty. Plenty of times. Plenty of times through the day, you could record what I'm saying and put me in jail. I'm going, no, I'm speaking through the POV of someone else. Right.
Charlamagne Tha God
All right.
Matthew McConaughey
So Wooderson was a guy who was hanging out the high schools. He was out. And that's. He has the line. There's a great line written around. They're like, man, you gotta. You gotta quit, you know, Gotta cut that out. Wooderson, he says, no, that's what I love about those high school girls, man. I get older, they stay the same age. You know, that was watershed.
Charlamagne Tha God
Why would you have to. You didn't have to double down. We got it. We got it.
Matthew McConaughey
I bring up that line because people know that was. Anyway, so I'm sitting there nervous about this first scene, starting to get, you know, a little anxious, and I'm like, who's my man? Who's Wooderson? Going through my head, who's my guy? I go, well, Wooderson, man loves. Loves it. Love my car. I said, boom. I'm in the 70 chevelle. There's one. I said, wooderson. Wooderson loves rock and roll. I said, boom. I got Ted Nugent strangleholding the eight track. There's two. I said, wooderson loves to get high. I said, oh, Slater's riding shotgun. He's always got a doobie rolled up. All of a sudden, I hear action. As I hear action, I look up, put it in drive. And as I pull out to go do the fourth thing that Wilson likes, he likes ladies.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes.
Matthew McConaughey
I say the three things. An affirmation for the three things that I do have. All right, all right, all right. Those were three affirmations. And that actually was based off of a live Doors concert. And Jim Morrison barks at the crowd. All right, all right, all right, all right. And I listened to it, heard that four, four months earlier. And for whatever reason, my version of it three times came out that night.
Charlamagne Tha God
So what would you tell that version of yourself?
Matthew McConaughey
Hey, you may think this is going to be a hobby where you gotta have a fun weekend acting in Austin, Texas, one summer in your life. Well, guess what, buddy? This is gonna be more than a Hobby. It's gonna be a career, and you're gonna end up loving it. Wow.
Charlamagne Tha God
Matthew McConaughey. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Sorry. Real quick.
Lauren LaRosa
Did you improv your role in oh.
Tesla Figaro
My God, The Leonardo the Cat, Wall Street?
Charlamagne Tha God
Did you?
Tesla Figaro
It was that improv.
Charlamagne Tha God
All of that?
Matthew McConaughey
Well, not all of it, no.
Charlamagne Tha God
But.
Matthew McConaughey
But quite a bit was. I mean, you know, people ask about the chest beating. All right, that's something I'll do before scenes and I've done many times before. It's a relaxation technique. You know, get to get out ahead. Huh. Let's get in the rhythm.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes.
Matthew McConaughey
Let's get the blood flowing. And it's good because the whole crew's going, well, what the was he doing? What's the weirdo? And it's nice to put myself in an underdog position so I can fight out of it. Right? And then I was doing that before the scene. Yell action, I'd stop. We do the scene. We do the scene five times. We got it. Moving on. Great. Nailed it. Moving on. All of a sudden, Leonardo raises his hand and says, hey, Marty, hang on a second. He goes, what's that thing you're doing before? I told him.
Charlamagne Tha God
When?
Matthew McConaughey
I just told you. He goes, what if you did that in the scene? Next take is what you see on. On film.
Lauren LaRosa
I love it.
Charlamagne Tha God
I love it. Wow. It's Matthew McConaughey. Poems and Prayers. Good, Great conversation with you, brother. Poems and Prayers is out right now, man. Thank you for coming, brother.
Matthew McConaughey
I appreciate it.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes, sir.
Lauren LaRosa
And the Lost Bus is in theaters Friday.
Matthew McConaughey
Yeah, yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes, it's the Breakfast Club. Yes, it's the world's most dangerous morning show. The Breakfast Club Charlemagne. The God, DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Envy and Just are out today. LL Cool Bay is here. Salute to Matthew McConaughey. Up and coming poet. Okay. Has a new book out right now called Poems and Prayers, and he's got a new movie. Hey, everybody, this is Matt Rogers, and.
Matthew McConaughey
You'Re never gonna guess who's our guest on Las Culturistas.
Charlamagne Tha God
It is Bradley Jackson.
Lauren LaRosa
Elle Woods.
Charlamagne Tha God
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Lauren LaRosa
I have to have a tequila.
Charlamagne Tha God
We must. The Curate rating. When they run diagnostics, we can run.
Matthew McConaughey
It on you guys.
Charlamagne Tha God
I'd be scared. I'll run the Q rating. No, I'm the Q rating. My resiliency score is down to adequate because we were on a red eye. My resiliency, my grit. I gotta get my grit score up now. Don't think that you're gonna come on Lost Culturistas, the podcast, and we're not gonna at least bring up Big Little Lie Season 3.
Lauren LaRosa
Whoever said orange is the new pink seriously disturbed.
Charlamagne Tha God
Listen to Las culturistas on the iHeartRadio.
Matthew McConaughey
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Lauren LaRosa
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Matthew McConaughey
Together we're launching the Moment, a new.
Charlamagne Tha God
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Matthew McConaughey
Through a time as uncertain as this one.
Tesla Figaro
We sit down with politicians.
Charlamagne Tha God
I would be the first immigrant mayor.
Lauren LaRosa
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Matthew McConaughey
Were born outside of this country.
Tesla Figaro
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Charlamagne Tha God
I mean, do you ever feel demoralized? I might personally lose hope.
Matthew McConaughey
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Charlamagne Tha God
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Tesla Figaro
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Lauren LaRosa
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Matthew McConaughey
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Charlamagne Tha God
This new podcast will be a way.
Matthew McConaughey
To make that ongoing intergenerational conversation public.
Tesla Figaro
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Lauren LaRosa
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Charlamagne Tha God
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Matthew McConaughey
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Lauren LaRosa
Hey, it's your favorite Jersey girl, Gia Giudice. Welcome to Casual Chaos, where I share my story.
Tesla Figaro
This week, I'm sitting down with Vanderpump.
Matthew McConaughey
Rules star Sheena Shay.
Charlamagne Tha God
I don't really talk to either of them, if I'm being honest.
Tesla Figaro
There will be an occasional text one.
Charlamagne Tha God
Way or the other from me to Ariana.
Tesla Figaro
Maybe a happy birthday from Ariana to me.
Charlamagne Tha God
I think the last time I talked.
Lauren LaRosa
To Tom, it was like, congrats on America's Got Talent. This is a combo you don't want to miss. Listen to Casual chaos on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, that comes out tomorrow called the Lost Bus. Thank you, Matthew McConaughey, for joining us. Now it's time for the latest with Lauren. She gets them from somebody that knows somebody.
Lauren LaRosa
I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything.
Charlamagne Tha God
She'd be having the latest on you. The Latest with Lauren LaRosa. Sometimes you have facts, sometimes you have details. Sometimes you have a little bit of everything. Oh, it's the latest on the Breakfast Club.
Lauren LaRosa
Well, guys, in really sad news, Ben and Jerry's. Jerry has quit Ben and Jerry's. Yes. So here's some background information. So a couple days ago, Jerry Greenfield, who was. Who co founded Ben and Jerry's, decided to resign from the company. Now, this comes 47 years after founding the company. He wrote a letter decided or explaining his decision to resign. So his departure basically follows months of him trying to advocate for the right for Ben and Jerry's, the company in an independent board that they had to be able to give to different organizations, civil rights organizations, and things that are tied to different political organizations as well. And y' all know Ben and Jerry's.
Charlamagne Tha God
They get busy when it comes to activism.
Lauren LaRosa
So busy, right? Like, they go. They go so hard. And they've been doing this before. It was a trend for corporations to do so. So basically now, because they have, you know, new people at the hem of the company, they've been, according to his letter, that he feels like they've been silenced and everything that they're trying to do is being blocked. And he says that he can no longer go on this way. He says he created the company in hopes of campaigning for peace, justice, and human rights and making it more than just the ice cream company. However, those ideas were being silenced and sidelined by those in power now. Now Chance the Rapper is speaking out on their behalf. So Chance the Rapper caught wind of this, and he posted to X. Ben and Jerry's is the only major company I know of that is repeatedly lobbied for black American reparations. Two older men with access who have no incentive other than justice are now being punished in silence for their unwavering support of Palestine. I'm not harp. I'm not heartbroken, galvanized. We continue to fight the good fight. You can't even.
Charlamagne Tha God
So what that mean for the ice cream? The ice cream gonna be gone?
Lauren LaRosa
No, they're still going to do the company, but it's just because I don't.
Charlamagne Tha God
Care about the ice cream. I'm lactose intolerant. But I do respect their activism.
Matthew McConaughey
I have.
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, that's how I know I'm lactose intolerant. Duh.
Lauren LaRosa
Some people find out that before they try it too.
Charlamagne Tha God
Huh?
Lauren LaRosa
Some people find out before they try it. You test for things like you. You don't have to try ice cream to know.
Charlamagne Tha God
I tried. I tried the ice cream and got bubble guts, and I get it every time. That's how I know. But my point is, I respect their activism. Not gonna miss the ice cream, but. Yeah.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah.
Tesla Figaro
With our girl, Erica Alexander.
Charlamagne Tha God
Hold on. Tesla and Figueroa's head.
Matthew McConaughey
What did you say?
Tesla Figaro
Oh, a shout out to Erica Alexander. Remember they partnered with her on the Big Payback when she was talking about reparations. Jerry partnered with her, and they did a campaign, so they've done a lot with reparations. So shout out to Chance for bringing it up.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah, I think it's. I know we were talking about, you know, Kimmel earlier, but I think it's a sad day when you see companies who actually want to do things and we out here yelling about the companies that don't feel like they gotta step over. People feel like they got to step away from what they've built. Feel, you know, in order to be able to do what their heart tells them they should be.
Charlamagne Tha God
I kind of feel like he's walking away from the fight, though. Like, nobody ever said any of this was gonna be easy.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah, but, you know, there's other ways to fight. He's a philanthropist at heart. He just happened to co. Found this with his childhood friend, and then, you know, because they had a passion for making ice cream. So, you know, as a philanthropist, he'll go on and do other things. He just can't do it through the company because he's not in as much power as he was before.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, I wonder why not just start another company on the side and do it it that way. Why does it have to be through Ben and Jerry's? I don't know. I don't know. The ins and outs.
Lauren LaRosa
Well, yeah, he can. He. I don't know. I don't know. He was using Ben and Jerry's as a foundation because it was the platform, but I'm sure he'll go on to do other things now. In other news. So, Aisha Curry, you guys, there's been a conversation for some time. You laughing at this test?
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes.
Lauren LaRosa
You saw it?
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes.
Lauren LaRosa
All right, so now there's been a conversation for some time, and, you know, I'm not married. I'm. I'm at all. So y' all. Charlemagne. You let Me. Let me know if this is like, a thing. And I think Aisha Curry gets it kind of. She gets it harder than a lot of other people because of who Steph Curry is. So Aisha Curry has sat down for some interviews just over Steph Curry's career. And they've always said that basically she needed to be quiet. She talks too much. She recently sat down with Call her Daddy and she talked about her relationship with Steph Curry and the origins of the relationship and. And, you know, similar to what Michelle Obama against, people were saying that she was. Was embarrassing him. Now, in the interview, she talked specifically about how they met and when they met, if he was her type. Do we have the audio? Let's say I didn't know that he was gonna end up playing basketball. Like, I. He said he wanted to be a high school basketball coach. Like, I thought I. I thought I was gonna be like the girl out there getting it. So I didn't know. And so it just like, like, it was weird. And sports fans are so different than like, maybe entertainment world fans. And oftentimes it's like, very ruthless. And so I think I wasn't expecting that. Yeah. Now, there was a lot of reactions to this, including like, you know, Tick Tockers and, you know, talking heads. But there was a guy who made a tick tock, and basically he said that because she's saying she thought she was going to be a woman out there working for herself, she might as well go ahead and be a rapper. Go ahead and go become Glorilla. Now, Killer Mike commented on this, and he was just laughing at the video, to be honest. I don't think that he meant any harm. But he commented and said she said she wanted to go be. Or he said that she said she wanted to go be. Glow. Laughing at the Tick Tocker, man. Steph doesn't deserve the embarrassment. For real. For real. God bless him. Steph Curry responded to Killer Mike and said, nah, not you, Mike. I'm cool. Staying silent and letting these other clowns have their moment. And you're the worst. And. And then he says to the Tick Tocker, you're the worst of them, but you better than that. Killer Mike, like, stay in your lane and let God keep blessing me like he is. We are good over here. So he took issue with Killer Mike laughing at the post. But I will say it's.
Charlamagne Tha God
Was the post funny?
Lauren LaRosa
It was very funny. Okay, we have the. Do you want to hear it?
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
Lauren LaRosa
Take a listen to the Tick Tocker. We do have it. I Just listen to it.
Charlamagne Tha God
Everybody went to Vegas I Heart Music Festival this weekend.
Lauren LaRosa
I'm gonna tell him to put it so that he can play it. But basically he's saying that like I just said that she.
Charlamagne Tha God
We have it. We just don't have it for the people to hear.
Lauren LaRosa
No, we do. It's not. We. I literally just listened to it.
Tesla Figaro
Well, can I say this on behalf of our brother, Killer Mike? He did not. I talked to him about it yesterday, Lauren, actually. So I had a conversation about this. Yes, about this. And he said he meant nothing by it. And he also said that he reached out to Steph and said, hey, brother, I mean nothing by it. I respect you greatly. It was also people in the comments saying, Mike need to stay in his business, his lane. He need to worry about getting his own wife. Let's be clear.
Charlamagne Tha God
One of my favorite people.
Tesla Figaro
He didn't mean nothing by it. He was just laughing at the Tick Tocker, like you said. So he didn't.
Lauren LaRosa
He didn't mean anything, though. It's. It's when. It's. It's when Killer Mike comments. It amplifies it. It doesn't want to amplify. But to be fair, there have been so many other people who are not just regular people online that have come out and had conversations.
Tesla Figaro
Killing my stuff online, though.
Lauren LaRosa
I told him, I said, you know.
Tesla Figaro
They gonna be putting your comments online.
Charlamagne Tha God
Let's kill the mic. His voice is huge. Yes.
Lauren LaRosa
That's what. And that's what Steph Curry is saying. Let's take a listen to the Tick Tocker.
Charlamagne Tha God
Aisha Curry is putting in maximum effort to let the world know that she is struggling with trying not to cheat on her husband. And because she can just smell an opportunity to embarrass this man. Because she gets on every interview telling everybody about just how frustrated she is with his success, how frustrated she is that women desire him, how much she wished it was her being lusted after by people who don't give a about her, how desperately she wants to get attention from other men, how locked down she feels with the kids. Every interview she goes on, she unwarrantedly forces us to listen to her vent about her not wanting to be with her husband. She wants to go be. I've heard enough. Maybe I don't listen to enough Aisha Curry interviews because I didn't get that from anything.
Lauren LaRosa
Anytime. That's what I was saying by Charlamagne, you let me know. Anytime a woman talks about her man and the man is someone of stature, you get told that you are doing something wrong. Michelle Obama got dragged for telling the story about not liking President Obama for 10 years or have an issue with him during their marriage.
Charlamagne Tha God
Well, they need to be like step on digging and tell people stay out they goddamn personal life. Whenever they get asked about their man. When Aisha get math about get get asked about Steph and when Michelle get asked about Obama, stay out my damn personal life. Okay. You bought me here to talk about me, right? You bought me here to interview me. Now if you bought me here to have a secondhand interview about my husband, I'm not doing that right now. Because if you know, your words are going to be twisted up, why even, you know, bring it up? Tell them to bring my husband up. If I don't bring him up, you don't bring him up. How about that?
Lauren LaRosa
But how about that? We gotta wrap up. I feel different.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
Lauren LaRosa
Her life is being the wife of stuff.
Tesla Figaro
You know what I mean?
Lauren LaRosa
Like that's, that's her life though, not her life. Meaning it's a huge part of her life and she does other things. We know she cooks, she does a lot of things, but it's a big part of her life. You can't get around that.
Tesla Figaro
I'm just confused on the last clip when she said I didn't wasn't expecting all those women. Like what you didn't hear when she was saying she wasn't expect. She doesn't expect the women to be throwing themselves at an NBA player.
Charlamagne Tha God
You said she might not expect to this level is what I'm saying. To this level.
Tesla Figaro
Come on now.
Lauren LaRosa
He.
Tesla Figaro
It's the mb.
Charlamagne Tha God
Come on, let's talk about it. Well, we got Donkey of the Day coming up next. I want to give it to ABC and we'll come back and discuss something. It's the Breakfast Club. You're checking out the Breakfast Club. It's time for Donkey. Donkey of the Day. Donkeys of the Day. I'm a Democrat, so being Donkey of.
Matthew McConaughey
The Day is a little bit of.
Charlamagne Tha God
A mixed way, but like a donkey.
Tesla Figaro
Donkey of the Day.
Charlamagne Tha God
The Breakfast Club. Now, I've been called a lot in my 23 years, but Donkey of the Day is a new one. Yes, Donkey of the day for Thursday, September 18th goes to ABC. Now, if you haven't heard, ABC announced that it's pulling Jimmy Kimmel live off air indefinitely. This comes after threats from the chairman of the FCC to the stations that carry the show and supposed backlash to comments Jimmy Kimmel made this week about the murder of conservative activist Charlie Kirk. Now, I'm gonna be honest with you. I didn't even hear anything about these comments until yesterday when they suspended Jimmy Kimmel indefinitely. Can we go to CBS News for the report, please? ABC have suspended Jimmy Kimmel's late night.
Lauren LaRosa
Show indefinitely over comments that he made.
Charlamagne Tha God
On his show Monday night about Charlie Kirk's death.
Matthew McConaughey
Hit some new lows over the weekend.
Charlamagne Tha God
With the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it. The suspension comes after nexstar announced that its ABC affiliates would preempt Jimmy Kimmel Live. Nextar called the comments, quote, offensive and insensitive at a critical time in our national political discourse. A spokesperson for ABC said, quote, Jimmy Kimmel Live will be preempted indefinitely. Today, Federal Communications Commission Chair Brendan Carr blasted Kimmel's remarks and said the FCC.
Lauren LaRosa
Has, quote, remedies it could look at.
Charlamagne Tha God
Nexstar currently has a major merger before the Trump administration for its proposed acquisition of Tegna. Jimmy Kimmel has not commented. Now, if I'm understanding this right, people are upset because he's implying that the shooter was maga. Understandable. I haven't seen anywhere where the guy identifies as maga, but to me, that should be neither here nor there. What's the difference between Jimmy Kimmel saying the shooter was MAGA and all those folks on the right? Assuming the killer, Tyler Robinson was a raging left lunatic? Okay? It's the same exact energy. And exactly why partisan politics have no place in an institution like the fcc. Because if someone on the right gets on on Fox News or any of these conservative platforms and blames the left before the shooter is even caught, the FCC says nothing. Okay? They were talking heads on all the news platforms blaming the left and nobody said anything. But Jimmy Kimmel comes out, makes the statement he makes about the murderer being one of them, and I put one of them in air quotes and ABC suspends them. ABC is taking out a page of Paramount's book and just kissing the ring. Okay, I know next Door Media Group owns a bunch of ABC affiliates and they are in the middle of a $6.2 billion merger with company Tegna and they will need the FCC's approval of the merger. It's the same exact play as sky that Sky Dancing Paramount. I know all of this is going on, but could you at least try to make it a little less obvious? I mean, FCC Chairman Brendan Carr was on Benny Johnson's podcast and he literally threatened federal action Against ABC affiliates who carried the show.
Matthew McConaughey
Listen, they have a license granted by us at the fcc, and that comes with it.
Charlamagne Tha God
An obligation to operate in the public interest. And we can get into some ways that we've been trying to reinvigorate the.
Matthew McConaughey
Public interest and some changes that we've seen.
Charlamagne Tha God
But frankly, when you see stuff like this, I mean, look, we can do.
Matthew McConaughey
This the easy way or the hard way.
Charlamagne Tha God
These companies can find ways to change conduct, to take action, frankly, on Kimmel or, you know, there's going to be.
Matthew McConaughey
Additional work for the FCC ahead.
Charlamagne Tha God
You know, for an administration that doesn't like being labeled authoritarian, they damn sure do a lot of authoritarian things. Okay, serious question. Y' all are saying you're doing this in defense of Charlie Kirk. Do you really believe Charlie Kirk, who went on college campuses all the time debating people of all walks of life, that was his thing to do. You really believe he would support you canceling people for exercising their free speech? Of course he would.
Matthew McConaughey
Wouldn't.
Charlamagne Tha God
But you all aren't doing this because you're supporting Charlie Kirk. You are using the death of Charlie Kirk to push your own political agendas. It's actually disgusting. Okay, if you cared about Charlie Kirk for real, and you were the Christians you claim to be, and I put Christians in air quotes, too, okay, if you were the Christians you claim to be, you would be looking at the signs God is trying to show you, and the signs God is trying to show you is having real discussions about gun violence, real discussions about common sense gun reform in this country. I said this last week, and I will say it again. I am too a all day. But I'm also for common sense gun reform. Charlie Kirk said, these are his words. A certain amount of gun deaths are worth it to have the right to bear arms. I ask a simple question in the name of the debate Charlie Kirk championed. Is it worth it when the gun death is you? Is it worth it when the gun death is someone you love? Maga, Conservatives, why are you avoiding that conversation? Why are you avoiding that debate? Debate. Okay. Charlie Kirk got murdered while he was discussing gun violence. If that's not a sign from a higher power that maybe we should be having a conversation about gun violence and common sense gun reform, then I don't know what is. Okay, maga, I am disappointed in you. Okay, when did y' all become such snowflakes? All right? You were the anti cancel culture party, the party of free speech. Okay? You hated the woke left, and now y' all the party that needs some sleep. Sleep okay. How do you not recognize your own hypocrisy in this situation? Salute to my guy, Andrew Schultz. He posted something this morning I totally agree with. He said, the left will say, fascism is wrong unless you kill one of our political opponents. Then we'll celebrate it. The right will say, cancel culture is wrong unless you cancel the shows of our political opponents. Then we'll celebrate it. That is absolutely accurate of where we are as a country. And as my guy Ted Ryan used to always say, you, you have a right, you have a left, but most of us are in the exhausted majority. Okay, we tired. Okay, we are tired of the partisan politics because while Dems and Republicans in positions of power in government do petty little things like this to each other, the people suffer. And networks like abc. I don't understand how you expect to get taken serious when you bend the knee to an authoritarian strategy. You already paid Trump 15 million because of the defamation suit he filed against George Stephenopoulos. Why you pronounce the name stuff. You know who I'm talking about. You know who I'm talking about. Okay, Snuffleupagus. Now you suspending Jimmy Kimmel indefinitely because he made comments about Charlie Kirk when you know the real reason you suspended him is because you need the FCC to approve this merger between NextStar Media Group and Texas. Listen, man, people who aren't proponents of free speech don't want a dialogue. They want a dictatorship of their own ideas. But the way I'm watching all these media companies and institutions bow down to the Trump administration, I'm convinced America just wants a dictatorship, period. Please let Remy Ma give ABC the biggest hee haw.
Tesla Figaro
Hee haw. Hee haw. You stupid motherf.
Charlamagne Tha God
Are you dumb? Lord have mercy. What are we doing next?
Lauren LaRosa
You said we was going to talk about Aisha and Steph Curry some more. What we doing? We playing. What? What's happening?
Charlamagne Tha God
Huh? Aisha and Steph Curry.
Lauren LaRosa
Yes.
Charlamagne Tha God
So tell me the story again.
Lauren LaRosa
Okay, so Aisha Curry was all right. Aisha Curry was on Call Her Daddy podcast. She's talking about her life, and then she goes into talking about what she thought her life would be. She was career oriented. She was a go getter. Yes. Let's take a listen. How.
Tesla Figaro
How did being in the spotlight impact your relationship in the early days? Because you guys didn't know how to handle it.
Lauren LaRosa
Parts of it have afforded me doors to be open. I, in the beginning, hated it so much. I, like, did not sign up for that. I also always thought, like, I didn't know that he was gonna end up playing basketball. Like I. He said he wanted to be a high school basketball coach. Like, I thought. I. I thought I was gonna be like, the girl out there getting it. So I didn't know. Now, this interview is from a month ago, but it came back up again because there, you know, people have been doing reactions to it, and Killer Mike commented on it.
Charlamagne Tha God
It's that one line.
Lauren LaRosa
What?
Charlamagne Tha God
I thought I was gonna be the girl out there getting it. What? That is that one line when she said get it. What she mean? Getting money?
Tesla Figaro
No, she. Yeah, she meant having a career.
Charlamagne Tha God
No, but you know how it sounds. Don't stop get it. Looking back at.
Lauren LaRosa
But that's why, you know, the tiktoker was like, well, she trying to be go gorilla girl. Go drop. Go drop a album.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah. She met her career, though. Yeah.
Lauren LaRosa
She commented, laughing. And then Steph Curry got upset. Now, I. I think she gets a lot of unfair criticism, so I. I wanted to know, do people feel like she needs to, I guess, stop talking? What? Stop talking about her husband. How is she gonna do that?
Charlamagne Tha God
By just shutting the hell up, not doing interviews. She don't have to.
Lauren LaRosa
We have one more audio, too.
Charlamagne Tha God
We do? What's the other audio do?
Lauren LaRosa
I just didn't think it was going to be a thing. You weren't a friend of friends? Yeah.
Tesla Figaro
Did you ever have any thing in.
Lauren LaRosa
High school at all or it was legit?
Tesla Figaro
Just friends?
Lauren LaRosa
No, just friends. Just friends. Yeah.
Tesla Figaro
I get what you're saying of, like, you never saw him as something, but.
Lauren LaRosa
I'm like, when you look back, is there any memory that you're like, maybe there was something or. No, not damn.
Charlamagne Tha God
Well, we'll come back and talk about it. Y' all ain't played me that far.
Tesla Figaro
You change your mind.
Charlamagne Tha God
I don't like when y' all give me just a little bit of information and I. We go. We going to come back now.
Tesla Figaro
We gotta unpack it.
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay. It's the Breakfast Club. The Breakfast Club. It's topic time. Call 800-585-1051 to join into the discussion with the Breakfast Club. Yep, it's the world's most dangerous morning show. The Breakfast Club. Charlemagne. The God Jess. Hilarious DJ Envy. Jess and Envy are off today, but LL Cool Bear is here. Lauren LaRosa. Tesla. Figaro is hanging out as well. And we're talking about this conversation Aisha Curry had on Call Her Daddy podcast. Lauren bought this to our attention this morning in the latest. What happened, Lauren?
Lauren LaRosa
So Aisha was on Call Her Daddy podcast And she made some comments about what she thought her life would be like, because Steph Curry wasn't supposed to be this big basketball star. Let's take a listen to that. I didn't know that he was gonna end up playing basketball. Like, I. He said he wanted to be a high school basketball coach.
Matthew McConaughey
Like, I thought.
Lauren LaRosa
I. I thought I was gonna be, like, the girl out there getting it. So I didn't know. And so it just, like, it was weird. And sports fans are so different than, like, maybe entertainment world fans. And oftentimes it's, like, very ruthless. And so I think. I wasn't expecting that. And people are upset. They're mad about it. They feel like she needs to be quiet and stop talking about her husband.
Charlamagne Tha God
Well, you know, first of all, Aisha doesn't deserve any disrespect for her feelings things. Okay. Because she was asked the question. And, you know, I get it. She was asked the question. But the way the Internet works, you know, when you express things like that publicly, you will get a whole lot of public responses. But I understand what she's saying. Aisha was asked, how did his career impact her? And she gave her honest answer. That's how it impacted her. I totally understand what she's saying, because there's one thing that we're not talking about in this situation.
Tesla Figaro
Oh, Lord.
Charlamagne Tha God
Steph Curry is one of the greatest basketball players of all time.
Lauren LaRosa
Was he always good like that, though? Like, from high school?
Charlamagne Tha God
He was good, but he was. Wasn't the. The. He's the greatest NBA shooter of all time. He literally changed the game of basketball. Revolutionized game basketball. Everybody started playing like him. It's a difference between. Between being just an NBA player and being Steph Curry.
Tesla Figaro
Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
So I can only imagine when. What. What her. What her life is like, having to deal with these hoes.
Lauren LaRosa
No, for real.
Tesla Figaro
Yeah. It's the hoes. And then. But also, she said she wanted. She thought she was going to be that girl. She thought she was going to have the career. But a lot of women, just everyday women. Charlemagne. That got married young. Because after I went back and looked. Let me just kind of look and make sure I'm having the right. Putting it in the right context. She got married young. She had a family young, and she just never had a chance to really have a career. And now everything she's doing is centered around her husband.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
Tesla Figaro
So it sound like it might be a little bit not resentment in a way, like, mad at my husband, but, like, who am I as a person.
Lauren LaRosa
Person but even if she had the career in the life, like Michelle Obama had the career, she had the life. And she also talks about how strenuous being first lady.
Tesla Figaro
Also went to an Ivy League school. She was a whole attorney, she had.
Lauren LaRosa
A career, all the things.
Tesla Figaro
But. But I, Ms. Curry, didn't do all. So she missing that.
Lauren LaRosa
I'm making a parallel of, like, whether you did other things or you didn't, women sometimes just have a feeling of, I don't like this right now, and it's okay. Why is it wrong for a woman to say right now, I don't like this, or I didn't like this, or I'm not feeling this right now. Why do women get dragged for that is what I don't understand. I don't have kids yet, so maybe I'm missing something here, but I just don't feel like it's warranted for people to drag Aisha, Kurt, or even Michelle Obama.
Tesla Figaro
So you're right, she shouldn't be dragged. But I do want to make the point, though, when you've given. I was married 15 years. Both my close friends been married over 25 years. What I'm saying is there is a craving, a desire to want to be your own person. So even though Michelle Obama, which I hear what you're saying, you're right in that Michelle Obama still was an attorney. She still had her own lane. She went to school. She.
Charlamagne Tha God
She.
Tesla Figaro
She made, you know, had her own little thing where Aisha sounds like she's saying, I never got that opportunity. I never got a chance to be an individual at all. And it just sounds like she's being honest about. That's something I would have loved to do. She said flat out, I thought I was gonna be the girl. And you're supposed to be a high school basketball coach.
Charlamagne Tha God
I understand what Ted is saying. And some people will say to them, damn, you would. We wouldn't even know you if it wasn't for Steph Curry. We wouldn't know you if it wasn't for Barack Obama.
Tesla Figaro
Want to be known for being her own.
Charlamagne Tha God
But by the way, even if you weren't married to them, you. We still wouldn't know you because you got. You were married. Like, you feel like you would have.
Tesla Figaro
Known her because she would have been something big. Maybe she would have been a rapper.
Charlamagne Tha God
I used to guy you. Curry was a sociology major. And if she wasn't married to Steph Curry, she wouldn't have ended up on the Call Her Daddy podcast. I doubt it, because she wouldn't have went in that she wouldn't have went in that direction of celebrity and entertainment. You understand?
Lauren LaRosa
I don't think I feel like she. Her argument isn't like I wanted to be here but on my own terms. She just wanted to be doing something. Like she just wants us something.
Charlamagne Tha God
Did she say that and call her daddy? I didn't hear that part.
Lauren LaRosa
What I'm. Because what she said was the attention is not what. She didn't really know what it was.
Tesla Figaro
She did say flat out though. I thought I was gonna be that girl. You was supposed to be a high school basketball coach making 30,000.
Lauren LaRosa
Not be super famous and end up on call her daddy. You could just be successful at whatever it is she was chasing her own fame.
Charlamagne Tha God
Sound to me she just wasn't expecting all these horse. Okay. All these. And all of this. All of this that comes with being married to the. To probably to me. Top three greatest basketball player of all time.
Lauren LaRosa
Exactly. Because the whole level is different.
Charlamagne Tha God
It's a different whole level, but it's still.
Tesla Figaro
What?
Charlamagne Tha God
It's a different whole level. So y' all don't understand. Aisha need to be somewhere where she could discuss this whole level. It's the whole level. See, Barack ain't got them holes like that now. Hello. Good morning. Good morning. Hey, everybody. This is Matt Rogers and Yang.
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Charlamagne Tha God
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Charlamagne Tha God
Hey, how are you? Hey, good morning.
Lauren LaRosa
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Charlamagne Tha God
I'm good.
Lauren LaRosa
How y' all doing?
Charlamagne Tha God
Peace. Dee Dee, how are you? We're talking about Aisha Curry. What you think?
Lauren LaRosa
So I feel like we need more contact.
Charlamagne Tha God
The clip that y', all, the clip.
Lauren LaRosa
That y' all played is pretty messy.
Charlamagne Tha God
She was. He asked the question, when did she.
Lauren LaRosa
Realize that, you know, they would be in a relationship? Because I feel like it's perfectly fine to not have any feelings for somebody in high school.
Charlamagne Tha God
I agree. Yeah.
Lauren LaRosa
So you're asking me for more context right now, or you just saying we should look I mean, I haven't seen the whole interview, but is there a.
Charlamagne Tha God
Part, you know, more to it?
Tesla Figaro
Well, sis, I don't know.
Charlamagne Tha God
Let me ask.
Tesla Figaro
Do you think it's the hoes based on we. This is just what I want to know. Do you think women. Do you think a woman. She's more concerned about Hades hoes or her career? Have you ever. Have you been married? Married? Let me ask you.
Lauren LaRosa
I actually haven't. Married and divorced, but.
Tesla Figaro
Okay. I feel like it's more her career, honestly. Okay. Explain it to Charlemagne. How the career. How. How leaving that career aside can bother a woman.
Charlamagne Tha God
It can, because I guess you feel.
Lauren LaRosa
Like you're in a.
Tesla Figaro
In a man's shadow, and then with.
Lauren LaRosa
Him being a celebrity, it's. It's even harder.
Charlamagne Tha God
I think it's different when it's some. When that's your husband, you're not in that man's shadow. You by that man's side.
Tesla Figaro
Oh. You know what I'm saying?
Charlamagne Tha God
And if there is no. There is no. Know him and me. There's an us.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah, but you still. I feel like what I always hear in marriages is there's still an identity that you have by his side.
Charlamagne Tha God
And sometimes, yeah, that's my wife, and I'm your husband. We are a unit. That's the Curries.
Lauren LaRosa
But you don't feel like Steph Curry, in that situation overshadows Aisha?
Charlamagne Tha God
No, I don't look at. I don't look at it like that, because I don't. That's his wife. I look at them as a unit, but I know that Steph Curry is a ball player. He ain't out there with a jersey on with him. You know what I'm saying? I look at Aisha and Steph as a unit more than I look at Steph and Draymond as one. And they've been teammates for 15 years. That's my. My personal opinion. 1-800-585-1-051. Call up right now. Aisha Curry was on the Caller Daddy podcast expressing her feelings about how she feels. How she felt in the early stages of their marriage, and people had an opinion about it. Can we listen to somebody's comments?
Lauren LaRosa
I didn't know that he was gonna end up playing basketball like, I. He said he wanted to be a high school basketball coach. Like, I thought I. I thought I was gon. The girl out there getting it. So I didn't know. And so it just, like, it was weird. And sports fans are so different than, like, maybe entertainment world fans. And oftentimes it's, like, very ruthless. And so I think. I wasn't expecting that.
Charlamagne Tha God
All right, 1-800-585-1051. Let's go to the phones. Good morning. Good morning. Morning. Breakfast Club. What's happening, my brother? Who this? This is Byron Anthony out of Atlanta. What's up, Charlamagne? Peace. Byron, what you think? Aisha Curry's comments, man. Listen, man, I'm gonna keep it all the way above with you, bro. How you not see the trajectory in me? Am I supposed to be your boo thing or what? Now, I'm not saying that you're not supposed to feel how she's supposed to feel, but how you not. Me being a man. How you not see that?
Lauren LaRosa
Well, she's.
Charlamagne Tha God
I mean, it's one of those things, like, now we gotta. I feel like I gotta have a conversation because I'm hurt being a vulnerable and being in a vulnerable space with you. Come on, man.
Lauren LaRosa
But he told her, like, they talked about dreams, and she said that, you know, he was. Was playing and, you know. But it just didn't. She didn't expect it to be all of this because he said he wanted to be a coach.
Charlamagne Tha God
I think y' all all missing this, right? Yeah, y' all missing this. And I'm gonna tell you why you missing this. I forget basketball. Aisha saw him and said, that's my man. That's who I want to be with.
Lauren LaRosa
Right?
Charlamagne Tha God
Forget basketball, because if we're being totally honest, out of high school, Steph Curry was an underrated recruit. Like, he wasn't. Like, what are we talking about? Come on, now. When he was in college, he put up numbers. Fellow man. Yes. But coming out of high school, he had limited. Limited scholarship prospects. That's why he ended up at Davidson, David. Yeah, Davidson. What are you talking about? Like, come on. You mad at Aisha because Aisha didn't see the potential. Mad recruits didn't see the potential either. I used to show the potential in him as a man. That's more important than me, than basketball.
Lauren LaRosa
She said that. She said she was trying to figure out. She even wanted to have kids and do this whole thing. And then she met him and she saw.
Tesla Figaro
Yeah, she didn't sign up for that. That's the bottom line. She didn't sign up. So this brother's saying, you should have saw the pretension.
Lauren LaRosa
Basically, she's saying he's looking at him as Steph Curry right now and saying, how didn't I? You should see that. But what Charlotte is saying is that it Wasn't.
Charlamagne Tha God
It wasn't about basketball.
Lauren LaRosa
It wasn't about basketball.
Charlamagne Tha God
That's my man. Yeah, my man. My man. My man. As Lauren likes to say when she's talking about her two booze. Good morning. Who's this? Good morning. Hey, good morning. Yes, good morning. It's Fidel.
Matthew McConaughey
How y' all doing?
Lauren LaRosa
Hey, Fidel. Good morning.
Charlamagne Tha God
How are you, man? We talking about this Aisha Curry situation. What you think? Yes. Well, first, I agree. I think Lawrence said it like, anytime you're married to somebody with the higher stature, it comes off as jealous. But I don't like how it discourages people like Aisha from being open. Because we as listeners, like when people are open and be honest, a lot of people have a similar thought.
Matthew McConaughey
They just don't share it.
Charlamagne Tha God
So when you're criticizing her, it's going to prevent future talks, be more closed off. Kind of like you're saying, just mind your business now. But we like when she's open about how she feels, because that's a true feeling that most people feel. And I agree with Steph with.
Matthew McConaughey
Shouldn't have done that.
Charlamagne Tha God
I mean, like, he has a lot of the word power stature. For him to say that, that's kind of, kind of a low thing. But I mean, I just being honest, I agree. I don't think it comes off as jealous either. I just think that, you know, a lot of people be wanting women to shut the hell up and so called, know their place. You know what I mean? But if you ask me how I feel, I'm going to tell you. If you ask Aisha Curry how she felt in the early days of her relationship, she has every right to say that.
Lauren LaRosa
And she also talked about how, like, you know, even just with social media opinions, she would get so much scrutiny just about small things and like, men don't get that the same. So she was learning to deal with all of that in real time.
Tesla Figaro
You got to be fair to you on this then, Lauren, because you, you don't have to interview. You don't have to make a statement on every single thing. So if this is a real challenge for her, Lauren, then, I mean, maybe she should fall back from the interviews. If it's in life, she shouldn't be scrutinized. I do want to be clear about that. But we all know that when you put it out there, it's right Charlamagne, the consequences come with it. That's why I'm talking about my personal business, because I know if I put my personal business out there, people Gonna have something to say, and I don't feel like it's none of your damn business. So we got to be fair about this as well.
Charlamagne Tha God
I agree.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
It's the world's most dangerous morning show, the Breakfast Club. Lively discussion. Now it's time for the latest with Lauren.
Tesla Figaro
Lauren becoming a straight thing.
Charlamagne Tha God
She gets them from somebody that knows somebody. Details.
Lauren LaRosa
I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything.
Charlamagne Tha God
She be having the latest on the beach. The Latest with Lauren LaRosa. Sometimes you have facts, Sometimes you have details. Sometimes you have a little bit every. Well, it's the latest on the Breakfast Club.
Lauren LaRosa
So Kaisernet sat down with Jennifer Hudson and he, you know, streaming, of course, the whole thing on his account, his Twitch account. So they talk about a ton of different things and she, you know, telling him how her son loves him and all the things, but she. She asked him about LeBron coming on the stream and cutting his dreads. Let's take a listen to what Kai said. And what's this about? LeBron James is cutting your hair.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes. So I set a goal for myself to reach a million subs. We just crossed the halfway mark. If we reach a million subs, LeBron James himself will be coming to cut my hair. I've had my hair since locked up since 2019, but I've been growing my hair since like 2015. What I'm excited about most about cutting my hair low key is because one day I want to direct and act in my own movies and shows. What's gonna ask you that question? So obviously I stream and I think it's gonna be something I do forever. But I have these trailers that I do and I've been doing them to practice, like me directing and acting. A lot of the ideas I have in my trailers, I'm part of the process and I just practice, like me acting on it. So I do one day want to have my own production and do my own movies and shows. And then when I cut my hair, I'll be able to play so many different types of roles. I don't think y' all realize how. How intelligent that young man Kaisernet is, because I guarantee you already lined up and he's going to hit a million subs and he's going to have LeBron come cut his hair, and then he's just going to seamlessly transition into what's already lined up for him. It's just. It's. It. I. I love it, man.
Lauren LaRosa
Let me tell you. So when I was watching day one of Mafia Thon and he announced that he would be cutting his dreads if he hit the hun. The. The sub amount. Right. I was like, oh that's cool. It's fun. It's something for LeBron and James, dude, LeBron James to come on and do and you know, Kai is just being Kai. When I heard this I said, oh, this is a rollout up K is with Jennifer. Hudson just told us what's about to happen next. I don't even know if the people caught it but yes, of course they caught it. I don't know, might have went over some people's heads. He is so smart.
Charlamagne Tha God
I also think Kai thinking five years into the future which, which everybody should always tell people thinking five year intervals. Whatever you want to be doing five years from now, you got to start doing today.
Lauren LaRosa
Yes. And I also think too you cuz you know Jennifer Hudson, she does like the tunnel walk and all the things. They let Kai lead this content as they should have. But like he's put this out. We, we grabbed this from his stream. The tunnel walk was his stream. She hasn't posted this yet, which I think is very smart. A lot of the shows should be following suit doing what she's doing. He's introducing her to a new audience. But he then went back to his house. He's still on stream because he's on stream 24 hours and they're, you know, talking about the interview and Kevin Hart actually shot him a text after the interview. Let's take a listen to that.
Charlamagne Tha God
So I hate Kevin. Look, look, look, look at this. Stop dressing like your home is on television, idiot. If you are trying to, you need to start. You need to practice looking like a star. If you ever wear Crocs on TV again, I'm going to swing on you. Like why are you on my. At your grown age, Kevin, you are over the age of 35 but he's.
Tesla Figaro
Not over the age of 5 foot so stop.
Charlamagne Tha God
That is correct. He could probably beat you in a fight. That's good advice from Kevin. But yo let Kai be himself. Kai is doing what he wants to do at his age. He's dressing his age. Let him be him. I wouldn't want to see Kai on Jennifer Hudson in a suit right now. That would look crazy. I'm like, why are you conforming to Jennifer Hudson not a suit?
Lauren LaRosa
I mean yeah, suit would be. He wore suit at the BET Awards though. But it's a word show.
Charlamagne Tha God
But, but it's not like he doesn't wear suits.
Lauren LaRosa
Yes.
Charlamagne Tha God
You know, but I'm just saying I want to see Kai being himself.
Lauren LaRosa
I sent you the tunnel walk. Take a look at.
Tesla Figaro
Yeah, but you wear slides.
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, absolutely.
Lauren LaRosa
But he pulled up, he had the Crocs in sport mode. I think at least Kevin like put on a sneak.
Charlamagne Tha God
No, if that, if that's what he felt like wearing and he wants to be himself. Himself do that. You know why? Because he got the Jennifer Hudson show. Being himself.
Lauren LaRosa
Exactly, exactly. And the Jennifer Hudson show posted the tunnel walk and they said so they did post that part of it. And they said chat at Kaiser not cooked. Leaning into, you know, the whole like chat thing or whatever. But in other news, so you know Nick Cannon, he was just here, he has the show, we playing spades, where he sits down, he plays cards and whatever. So he had Juvenile Minnie Fresh on the show and they talked about back then that. Can I say the a word?
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes, you can say ass.
Lauren LaRosa
Oh, sorry. They talked about Back that Ass up and how iconic it was and what remixes to the song would look like. Let's take a listen.
Charlamagne Tha God
What artist would you like to do a remix of your song and which song they they they remixing? Shab. I want Shaboo to remix Back that Ass Up. Do a country version of it. I've been request. You did tip song. Come on, bro. Yeah, that'll go crazy.
Lauren LaRosa
Edit. Go ahead.
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay.
Lauren LaRosa
I was gonna say it's been all these years later and there isn't a remix back that. Back that Ass up that you pointed to.
Charlamagne Tha God
You don't really need one remix. You can't just remix anything. Right. Okay, I got Back that Ass up is a negro spiritual and if the boozy is even gonna attempt to do that, you need to have a count in a culture, a council of culture. Okay. It got to be a council of culture that hears the remix before he even touches the masses. Okay. If you even going to attempt to touch a negro spiritual like that.
Lauren LaRosa
Well, Shaboozi saw the clip and as of yesterday he let us know that he is going to attempt, he said done with a check mark, meaning he's going to try to get in there and do some things. And I have reached out, I'm trying to figure out if that means he's actually in the studio, if he saw the clip. Because the clip is like a day, a day old and he's already recorded something, what that means. But what I thought the Internet would do is cuz they've been doing these mashups of different songs forever. Especially Back that Ass Up. I thought the Internet would go. And Shaboozi on the back. That. That's a beat. So we can kind of get the synergy. And when I went and looked, all I found was Morgan Wallen. They did a mashup. They did a mashup of Morgan Wallen's Neon Star, which he calls a country boy lullaby.
Charlamagne Tha God
Over.
Lauren LaRosa
Back that ass up.
Charlamagne Tha God
Lauren. Just be trying to make people mad in here.
Tesla Figaro
That's real disrespectful.
Charlamagne Tha God
What was the point of it? What was the point? Is there certain things you don't touch?
Lauren LaRosa
I didn't do it, okay? It was a mashup created by dj.
Charlamagne Tha God
There Certain things you don't touch. You don't touch. Stevie Wonder, Happy birthday song. You don't touch. Regina Bell. God is good. You don't touch. Crime box Knuck if you buck. Even though people have. Okay. You don't touch. Juvenile. Back that ass up. You don't touch. What's going on? Marvin Gay. Those are negro spirituals, man.
Lauren LaRosa
DJ Ch. Chad Wildman said he. You know, his little matchup thing?
Tesla Figaro
Neon style, triggering Charlemagne.
Lauren LaRosa
He triggers me all day long, okay? So if I get one off, I could pull one little trigger. Hey, what you say? What do you know?
Charlamagne Tha God
What rhymes with trigger? You know what rhymes with trigger? And that's what Morgan Wallace said. So whenever I hear, that's what I'm gonna do. The plan. Saying that. That's all I could hear over and over and over and over again.
Lauren LaRosa
You're right.
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay.
Lauren LaRosa
Touche. You got it. That is. That is the latest yes.
Charlamagne Tha God
Coming up. We have the People's Choice mix. That's when Envy is going to act like he's been here the whole time and he hasn't. He's gone for the rest of the week. But I would tell y' all to call in and request something, but that'd be a lie. What's the point of me lying to you? The song's already in there.
Lauren LaRosa
You are, man. It don't even make so much hope, so much joy.
Charlamagne Tha God
You're checking out the Breakfast Club. Yeah. World most dangerous morning show. The Breakfast Club. Charlemagne. The God. Just hilarious. DJ Envy is not in today, but Lauren LaRosa is. And we got some special guests in the building. The cast of season three of Reasonable Doubt.
Matthew McConaughey
Yes.
Charlamagne Tha God
How are y' all feeling, man?
Tesla Figaro
Fantastic.
Charlamagne Tha God
Joseph Sicor McKinley Freeman. And I always mess the name up.
Lauren LaRosa
I'm a Yahtzee, I'm a Yahtzee, I'm.
Charlamagne Tha God
A Yahtzee, I'm a. I'm a Yahtzee.
Lauren LaRosa
Girl, he was messing up, you know.
Charlamagne Tha God
He got little lisps. How y' all feeling this morning?
Lauren LaRosa
We feeling fantastic.
Charlamagne Tha God
Excited to be here, man. Season 2 of A. A scripted show is a very hard season three. Season three. Three.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
Of a very. Of a scripted show is a very hard task. How does it feel, man? It's good to be working, I'll tell you that. And also be working with such amazing collaborative people like Emiyatzi and Joseph Kerry Washington. Larry. It's been a blessing. So hopefully the fans love it because we definitely.
Tesla Figaro
Yeah, it's been a lot of fun.
Charlamagne Tha God
It's been a lot of fun.
Lauren LaRosa
And so to get to do it.
Tesla Figaro
Three times, you know, and to feel.
Lauren LaRosa
That love from the audience and everything.
Tesla Figaro
And then, you know, meet additional.
Lauren LaRosa
Just people who come on the show and bring great energy, you know, it's been cool.
Matthew McConaughey
But to your point, it is difficult to get a third season, especially today. And I think that that speaks to the written word.
Charlamagne Tha God
And that's. That's Rahmu Muhammad.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
When have you not worked? When is the last time you. When is the last time you've not worked?
Matthew McConaughey
I've been super lucky and grateful to have in the Tommy role, but legitimately. Charlamagne.
Charlamagne Tha God
We were just talking about that. That it's like, it's. I was. I started.
Matthew McConaughey
We started the journey when I was 37. I'm 49 right now, so it's like 12 years.
Charlamagne Tha God
Not. Damn, that 49 is old, but you.
Tesla Figaro
Just don't look 49.
Charlamagne Tha God
But damn, I wouldn't have guessed this year. 49.
Lauren LaRosa
Geez, talk about how long you've been working, especially in that role. Power, right? How hard is it when you go into other sets for people not to just see Tommy all the time?
Matthew McConaughey
It's funny, I think that the power show is so pigeonholed in a lot.
Charlamagne Tha God
Of ways that, like, when I was.
Matthew McConaughey
On Ozark, people had no idea, like, their crossover audience wasn't there.
Charlamagne Tha God
However, on this, this is gonna be.
Matthew McConaughey
The one where Tommy plays the lawyer.
Charlamagne Tha God
Which is fine with me too, because.
Matthew McConaughey
It'S so well written that Ramila Muhammad does such an amazing job at making a 360 degree character that it's. Regardless of how you feel about Bill Sterling, my character on season three of Reasonable Doubt, it's a different character and it's a real human being because she writes real human beings in real situations.
Charlamagne Tha God
This is only the second time in my career where I joined a cast.
Matthew McConaughey
Where I was a fan of the show.
Charlamagne Tha God
I mean, I came for Michael Ealy. I stayed for Emyatzi. It's like, she's a brilliant.
Matthew McConaughey
She is everything that a number one on a call sheet should be. She's ultra prepared.
Charlamagne Tha God
She's ultra kind, and you can't put.
Matthew McConaughey
Anything in front of her.
Charlamagne Tha God
She can't tackle and conquer.
Matthew McConaughey
So it's been amazing, and I learned a lot by being around her.
Lauren LaRosa
You know what?
Tesla Figaro
I wish people at my job would hype me up like that.
Lauren LaRosa
That is amazing.
Tesla Figaro
See what he just did there?
Charlamagne Tha God
Sh. Well, she's always on set, I'm sure. Every day. Okay. She doesn't miss him a lot of days. Oh, man.
Lauren LaRosa
He loves you.
Charlamagne Tha God
You said something interesting, though. You said that, you know, when you did Ozark, there wasn't a lot of crossover there. So I wonder, does that hinder you from getting certain roles? Cause they feel like, oh, that's Joseph. People might think this is the, you know, power franchise spin off. I don't even think about that. I feel like my job as an.
Matthew McConaughey
Actor, I don't think about that.
Charlamagne Tha God
Getting more and more into producing.
Matthew McConaughey
Those are some of the factors.
Tesla Figaro
I mean, I think you're spot on.
Matthew McConaughey
Charlamagne, thinking that people are. People love to categorize stuff because it makes it easy. One thing I've learned in this business.
Charlamagne Tha God
Is that nobody likes to work hard.
Matthew McConaughey
And everybody likes things that are easy.
Charlamagne Tha God
So I feel like to break out of the shell, you have to do.
Matthew McConaughey
Both of those things. You have to do things that are difficult, and you have to want to work hard work. So that's all I want to. All I do is I try to progress and keep working.
Charlamagne Tha God
So does working on a law Senate show challenge y' all views of, like, the legal system?
Lauren LaRosa
Absolutely, absolutely.
Tesla Figaro
I mean, because, for one, I've just.
Lauren LaRosa
Learned a lot more about law.
Tesla Figaro
You know, as each season has gone.
Lauren LaRosa
On, you know, you learn a lot more. And again, the writing, it makes you kind of dive into that, you know, but just the system as a whole. You know, each season brings a new case, and with the new case, you have.
Tesla Figaro
Have different challenges and, you know, how.
Lauren LaRosa
The law is working with you or against you and those kinds of things.
Tesla Figaro
You know, so it really does highlight that. And that's one of my favorite things.
Lauren LaRosa
About the show, is that it makes people talk about. It makes people talk about, you know.
Tesla Figaro
The justice system and why it's working.
Lauren LaRosa
Or why it's not.
Tesla Figaro
And that's, again, one of the. One of the benefits of the show.
Lauren LaRosa
It's not just this simple legal drama.
Tesla Figaro
You know, you have this woman who's a lawyer.
Lauren LaRosa
There's so many more layers to it.
Charlamagne Tha God
And oddly, like, over the course of shooting the last few seasons, there's always been something interesting happening legally. So there's always something in the world where we're like, oh, they come together.
Tesla Figaro
Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
So season two and season three, so definitely, you know, shed a light on that topic. For sure.
Lauren LaRosa
Emma Yachty. The last. So the last season before this one, you end on, like, a high. You. You bring your. Your friend home and all the things, and then this season opens, and it's like you. You want more drama.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes.
Lauren LaRosa
But you also end the last season with a lot of drama.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
Lauren LaRosa
You know, you don't understand. We as women, you know, I was about to ask you, you know, we want to have it all. I think Jax as a character, she.
Tesla Figaro
Is a woman who does thrive in.
Lauren LaRosa
A lot of ways on the adrenaline.
Tesla Figaro
Of things not going the way they're supposed to go. She likes the mess of all of.
Lauren LaRosa
That in her professional life. Yes.
Tesla Figaro
You know, but when it does bleed.
Lauren LaRosa
Over into the personal, that's where things get a little tricky. But she's been missing that, you know, from the last season. She did get her girlfriend off and everything, and. And now she's just, you know, everyone's pleading out. There's nothing really happening. She likes to be in that courtroom, you know, so I can understand that, you know, at work, you want a little. You want to feel like you are doing your best. And for Jax, she's at her best when she's in that courtroom, standing right in front of someone and letting them know whether or not she's going to win this case.
Tesla Figaro
So that's where she. Where she wants to be.
Lauren LaRosa
She lives in that space. I've had conversations with my friends because of reasonable doubt just about how, like, as women at work or black women at work, we always feel the need to, like, be the, like, successor in the room or we're figuring it out or how does your role and what you do going into this new season, all this new drama, speak to you that, like, that I need the mess, because I need something to figure out so I can look like I'm accomplishing or really accomplished. Well, see, I think it's almost the opposite. I don't know if I would say that. I feel like Jax needs the mess to feel like she's doing something. I think there's more.
Tesla Figaro
So she's already feeling like she's not valued at her job.
Lauren LaRosa
You know what I mean? So she knows. Knows that she can get in these rooms and obliterate anyone who's in front.
Tesla Figaro
Of her, you know, and she's.
Lauren LaRosa
She really fights for the people, the clients that she believes in. So I think she wants to have more of those opportunities to do that. And when we open up in season three, that's not where she is. You know, everyone is pleading out. She's kind of more so just in her office and that kind of thing.
Tesla Figaro
So she wants to have a bit more of the excitement, so.
Lauren LaRosa
So that she can make money for the firm, be her best, you know.
Tesla Figaro
Show everyone what she's capable of.
Lauren LaRosa
Because, again, that's why she's a partner. You know, her name is on that building, building. So she's not at her best just.
Tesla Figaro
You know, helping clients plead out in.
Charlamagne Tha God
That kind of way. McKinley, is it true that you started off in corporate America? Right? Yeah, absolutely. So you got into the industry later? That's. Well, yeah, I got into late. I was. I got a bachelor's degree in finance.
Matthew McConaughey
And MBA in marketing and information technology.
Charlamagne Tha God
So I was working for like, a Fortune 5 company, traveling around the world, building marketing program, sales programs for stuff. And then I just started modeling and got bored. And then that was kind of the introduction to it all. And then just kind of like Joseph was saying, I'm a bit of a student to everything, whether it's jiu jitsu, acting, whatever. So I knew that there was a.
Matthew McConaughey
Lot that I didn't know, and I.
Charlamagne Tha God
Just took it as an opportunity to kind of learn and see where it could go. But it was very much about. For me, it's a. Like a lifestyle, being present. Like, what is it that I can do today to get me closer to tomorrow, which will get me closer to my destiny. But. Yeah, but also. But not being afraid to pivot, you know, can you speak to that? Because it's like, you know, you accomplished so much, right? I don't know if I've accomplished so much. I mean, from an educational perspective, definitely. Right. So. But what is it in you? What's that nagging feeling that's like, no, you should. You should be doing something else. You should be doing this. I think there's a voice on the inside. There's a thing there. It's like there's a point where you can check all the boxes and things could be going right, but there's still something missing. And I think the voice of the.
Matthew McConaughey
Some.
Charlamagne Tha God
The whisper of something missing is louder than the screams of the things that you have. So for me, the opportunity is to kind of of dive in there to see where it could go. Because to me, the biggest thing is Martin Luther King said the two greatest words, the two most powerful words in the English language are too late. So, like, I don't want to get to the end and be like, damn, I wish I would have tried. So I'm gonna leave it all on the table, wherever it is, whether it's acting, business, whatever, but. But yeah, that. The. The willingness to be free and to see where the waves go.
Matthew McConaughey
That's where I'm at.
Charlamagne Tha God
Well, listen, it's the cast. A Reasonable Doubt Season 3 premieres September 18th. Teeth.
Tesla Figaro
I want to say I did something for reason.
Charlamagne Tha God
You hear on the radio. I'm paying attention to the case.
Tesla Figaro
You know what I'm saying?
Charlamagne Tha God
I'm the voice that pay attention to the case.
Lauren LaRosa
Listen out, okay?
Matthew McConaughey
Y' all got to make sure y'.
Lauren LaRosa
All tune in, period.
Charlamagne Tha God
Thank you. Thank y'. All. Thank you to the cast of Reasonable Doubt. Make sure you check out Reasonable Doubt season three. It premieres today on Hulu. Teslin, Figaro. Thank you for joining us this morning.
Tesla Figaro
Thank you for having me.
Charlamagne Tha God
She's live in studio because she's in New York. Cause tonight she'll be on Abby Phillips on CNN at 10:00pm I cannot wait to watch. I will be up watching Abby Phillips. I mean, I watch Abby all the time. I watch a lot of the clips, too. But, you know, most of the time, I try to be in bed by 9, 9:30. But I am staying up tonight to watch Tesla Figueroa on Abby Phillips on cnn. It's your first time on cnn, right?
Tesla Figaro
First time on cnn, on Fox News all the time, but first time on cnn.
Charlamagne Tha God
And it's just interesting because we've always had these conversations. I remember one time me was on Van Jones podcast, and I'm like, van, y' all need to have Tez on cnn. So, you know, Abby had the balls to do it. And I. I salute Abby because Abby brings a lot of people on there who don't necessarily be on these mainstream platforms. You know, Anna from the Young Turks was on there a lot. And so I just appreciate Abby for doing that. That's dope.
Tesla Figaro
Yeah. Shout out to her. Thank you so much for your support. And thank you so much, Lauren. And it's been great hanging out with you guys all week. So thank you so much. That's why I'm more excited about hanging out with you guys all week. More so than cnn.
Charlamagne Tha God
Well, I'm excited about cnn. Okay. And make sure you download Te Pick Rose podcast, the Straight Shot no Chaser podcast on the Black Effect podcast network. And also salute to Matthew McConaughey for joining us this morning. His new book, poems and Prayers, is out right now, and he's got a new movie, the Lost Bus, which will be out in theaters tomorrow and then on Apple TV on October 3rd. Now, the positive note is simply this. Anyone who stops learning is old, okay? I don't care whether you 20 or 80. If you stay learning morning. That's what keeps you young. That's a great quote from Henry Ford, and I truly believe that. Y' all have a great day. It's the Breakfast Club. Breakfast Club. Hey, everybody, this is Matt Rogers, and.
Matthew McConaughey
You'Re never gonna guess who's our guest on Las Culturistas.
Charlamagne Tha God
It is Elle Woods. Tracy Flick herself, Reese Witherspoon. Reese, we must go on a girls trip.
Lauren LaRosa
I have to have a tequila.
Charlamagne Tha God
We must.
Lauren LaRosa
Oh, whoever said orange is the new pink?
Charlamagne Tha God
Seriously disturbed. Listen to Las culturistas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Marcus Grant.
Matthew McConaughey
And I'm Michael F. Florio, and together.
Charlamagne Tha God
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Matthew McConaughey
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Charlamagne Tha God
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Matthew McConaughey
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Lauren LaRosa
Hey, it's your favorite Jersey girl, Gia Giudice. Welcome to Casual Chaos, where I share my story.
Tesla Figaro
This week, I'm sit down with Vanderpump.
Matthew McConaughey
Rules star Sheena Shay.
Charlamagne Tha God
I don't really talk to either of them, if I'm being honest.
Tesla Figaro
There will be an occasional text one.
Charlamagne Tha God
Way or the other from me to Ariana.
Tesla Figaro
Maybe a happy birthday from Ariana to me.
Charlamagne Tha God
I think the last time I talked to Tom, it was like, congrats on America's Got Talent.
Lauren LaRosa
This is a combo you don't want to miss. Listen to casual chaos on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your pop.
Matthew McConaughey
Podcasts.
Tesla Figaro
Do you want to hear the secrets.
Lauren LaRosa
Of psychopaths, murderers, sex offenders?
Tesla Figaro
In this episode, I offer tips from them.
Lauren LaRosa
I'm Dr. Leslie, forensic psychologist.
Tesla Figaro
This is a podcast where I cut.
Lauren LaRosa
Through the noise with real talk. When you were described to me as a forensic psychologist. I was like, snooze.
Charlamagne Tha God
We ended up talking for hours, and I was like, this girl is my best friend.
Lauren LaRosa
Let's talk about safety and strategies to protect yourself and your loved ones. Listen to Intentionally disturbing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an I heart podcast.
Hosts: Charlamagne Tha God, Lauren LaRosa, Tesla Figaro (DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious off)
Guests: Matthew McConaughey, Cast of Reasonable Doubt (Emma Yahtzee, McKinley Freeman, Joseph Sikora), various call-ins
Focus: News, pop culture, politics, Jay-Z’s Times Square casino bid, Cardi B’s life updates, Matthew McConaughey’s new book and film, Reasonable Doubt S3, celebrity controversy
This episode blends news, cultural discussion, and celebrity interviews, touching on current events (notably Jay-Z’s failed Times Square casino bid, the suspension of Jimmy Kimmel, and Cardi B’s response to motherhood/tour speculation), candid listener calls, and deep interviews with Matthew McConaughey (about faith, career, and new projects) and the Reasonable Doubt S3 cast about Black women and legal narratives in television.
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The show combines witty, often humorous banter and pop culture savvy (e.g., “different whole level,” “Negro spiritual,” playful ribbing), with serious social commentary and sharp analysis of current events. Guests contribute candidly, blending heartfelt personal stories, industry insight, and career philosophy.
This Breakfast Club episode weaves together politics, urban development, celebrity news, and longform interviews—delivering authentic, engaging, and sometimes provocative perspectives on what’s shaping Black culture and American society.