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FULL SHOW: Judge Tosses Drake’s Not Like Us Lawsuit, Ex-NBA Star Paul Pierce Arrested for DUI, WNBA Finals Game 1 Breaks Records + Allen Iverson Interview
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Lauren LaRosa
This is an I Heart Podcast.
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Charlamagne Tha God
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Podcast Narrator
The murder of an 18 year old girl in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved for years until a local housewife, a journalist and a handful of girls came forward with a story.
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DJ Envy
America, y' all better wake the hell up.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Bad things happens to good people in small towns.
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Podcast Narrator
Listen to Graves county on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and to binge the entire season ad free. Subscribe to Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcasts.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Short on time, but big on true crime. On a recent episode of the podcast.
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Podcast Narrator
Hunting for Answers, I highlighted the story of 19 year Lachey Dungey.
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Charlamagne Tha God
But she never knocked on that door. She never made it inside.
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Podcast Narrator
And that text message would be the.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Last time anyone would ever hear from her. Listen to Hunting for Answers from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio.
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Podcast Narrator
App, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Caller/Listener
Welcome to In Case youe Missed it.
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Charlamagne Tha God
With Christina Williams, the podcast that's your go to source for women's hoops. From buzzer beaters to breaking news, I bring you the highlight and expert insights you need to stay ahead of the game. The people have spoken and it's time to give the stories that matter most the spotlight.
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Mimi Brown
Listen to in case you missed it.
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Charlamagne Tha God
On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. And remember, in case you missed it. Don't worry, I've got you covered. Good morning usa.
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Yo, yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo. Good morning, Jeff. Hilarious.
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Good morning Charlamagne.
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Lauren LaRosa
How you doing?
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Charlamagne Tha God
Peace to the planet. It's hey, how y' all feel out there? I feel blessed, black and highly favored. Happy to be here another day to serve our beautiful listeners. What is happening? How do you feel? How do you feel?
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I feel good. Me and my husband went out date night last night. I had a blazer. Huh? It's this place called the local and I had on a blazer right? And it had. I was sitting in the. In the. In the passenger seat, and he was like, you look so good. Like, I just want. He bit my shoulder pad.
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You know how.
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You know how. Listen, you know how good you gotta look for a. To bite the shoulder pad out?
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Well, I think that he need to be careful. Cause he's asking these people see you biting. Yeah. Biting somebody in this time. You know, you never know. And people will pop out on them quick. I'm just saying tell them be careful with that.
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We was in the car. Nobody saw us.
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I know. Y' all looked like two pretty studs last night. You had on a blazer. Chris probably had his dread down his shoulders. Where did y' all go? Where'd y' all go?
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We went to local eatery. It's nice. This is the spot. Nice upscale little spot in Jersey City.
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Okay.
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It's nice on the water. It was really dope. We had nice drinks, talked about business a lot like it was. It was nice. It was a date. We talked about business, but it was still.
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That's why you got the eye patches under your eye right now.
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No, that's not. No, I'm just. I'm just tired.
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Yeah, because he probably wore you out last night. What you mean?
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Yo, anyway, how's. How are you?
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I am great. It is Friday. Today is a great day. Tonight is going to be a great night because the WNBA Finals are the night game four Las Vegas Aces versus the Phoenix Mercury. Let's go Aces. But also, today is a great day because it is World Mental Health Day. Okay? It is World Mental Health Day. I have my fifth annual Mental Wealth Expo tomorrow in Newark, New Jersey at the Joel and Diane Bloom Wellness and event center. From 11am to 4pm it is a free event. And my guy who will be there tomorrow is joining us this morning. His name is Dr. J. Barnett.
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Okay.
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He's the host of the Just Hill podcast on the Black Effect Podcast Network. But he's gonna be joined by Dr. Joel Tudman. Okay. Joel Tubman. He used to be a pastor at the Potter's house. He's a phenomenal, phenomenal brother, man. He's got a book coming November 4th. So they will be here today to talk all things mental health. Cuz today is World Mental Health Day. And I love those brothers cuz they're not afraid to be vulnerable. And another man who is not afraid to be vulnerable who put out a book on Tuesday called Misunderstood. I read it last weekend. He is absolutely, positively a cultural icon. We don't use the word Cultural icon. Loosely. We had Little John up here earlier this week. He is a cultural icon. We have another cultural icon here this morning. He shifted culture. A man who taught so many people to not be afraid to be themselves. Allen Iverson will be joining us. AI the answer.
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He had me wearing my hair like he did. I'm telling you, I was getting in middle school, and I wasn't even gay.
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You were.
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No, I wasn't gay in middle school, yo. Oh, that was after.
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Oh, no. That picture I saw. There was signs.
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I was not gay. I was just a tom. Girl.
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That's what we used to call studs.
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Back in the day.
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Back in the day. That's exactly who we used to call studs. But, yes, Allen Iverson will be joining us today, man. So don't go anywhere. All right, we got donkey today. We got the latest with Lauren. We got all types of stuff, man. What we starting the show with? I need some energy. I need some energy this morning.
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I need to be lit. That's right.
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Why not? Little John lit Trick Daddy. Let's go. It's the Breakfast Club. It's the world's most dangerous morning show. The Breakfast Club. Charlamagne. Tha God, Jess. Hilarious. DJ Envy. Envy's off today.
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Absolutely.
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He's off today, man. Drop on the Clues bomb for Lil John. I got. I'm really, really, really, really, really moving to want to go see Little John in Atlanta for 96. One. The jingle ball. Really? You think you can handle that?
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Being around the many people?
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I don't know yet.
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Okay.
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That's why I'm getting myself psyched up now. Yes. You know, but then it might be day of. And I'd be like, nah.
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Exactly.
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We ain't going. Mimi Brown. Good morning, Mimi.
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Mimi Brown
Good morning, Charlamagne. Good morning, Jess. How y' all doing?
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Charlamagne Tha God
Good morning, girl.
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Hold up.
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Before you start, we got to get into some Monday night. No, what is it? Thursday Night Football.
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Do we have to?
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Yes, we do.
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Caller/Listener
Envy.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Giants won. Finally. Yo, they, like, come on.
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For real.
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34. 17. They beat the Eagles.
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I can give a damn. I'm a Dallas Cowboy fan. I know.
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But on the one day that he can brag and talk is. She's not here.
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I don't care about either one of these teams.
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They.
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They both NFC east rivals. I don't even care.
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Well, congratulations for Envy. I'll hold it down for you, babe. Congratulations to the New York Giants. What's up, Mimi?
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Mimi Brown
Good morning. All right, so we start this morning in Washington, where the government shutdown is now in its 10th day. D. And there's still. Yep, 10th day. And there's still no vote to reopen the government. The Senate left town late last night with no deal, guaranteeing that shutdown will stretch into next week. That also means military members are likely to miss their first paycheck as the standoff drags on. Now, earlier in the day, Senate Democrats, they blocked a Republican funding bill for the seventh time where both sides remain, they remain stale, locked over health care subsidies and spending priorities. And now Republicans, they want a short term clean funding bill, while Democrats insist any deal must include the extension of the Affordable Care act credits that are set to expire at the end of the year. Now, as frustrations grow in Washington, it's hitting home for families across the country. During a C SPAN live call on Thursday, a Republican mother from Virginia whose husband serves in the military made an emotional plea directly to House Speaker Mike Johnson. She said if the shutdown continues, that her husband, if he misses a paycheck next week, her two medically fragile children would lose access to the medication they need to survive. Let's listen to how this shutdown is affecting everyday, real people.
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Caller/Listener
If we see a lapse in pay come the 15th, my children do not get to get the medication that's needed for them to live their life because we live paycheck to paycheck. I am begging you to pass this legislation. My kids could die. We don't have the credit because of the medical bills that I have to pay regularly. You could stop this and you could be the one that could say military's getting paid. And the audacity of someone who makes six figures a year to do this to military families is insane.
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Charlamagne Tha God
She's absolutely right. She's absolutely right. The rent, the mortgage, the electric bills, gas bills, the health care bills, they don't care that the government is shut down. They want their money.
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Yeah, man, they do.
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Mimi Brown
Because the bills don't stop. Well, Johnson told her he was angry about situations like hers, but again, he blamed Democrats for blocking that funding plan in the Senate. So we'll continue to watch this. It will, of course, play into next week.
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Charlamagne Tha God
This is not going to be the political win that either party thinks it is because people do not care about which party is responsible for what. They just want their goddamn money. That's it.
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Mimi Brown
Exactly. And in other news, conservative political group Turning Point USA says it is launching its own halftime show to compete with the NFL, setting up what could, what could be one of the most politically charged Super Bowl Sundays yet. Now, the group founded by activist Charlie Kirk announced the all American halftime show set to air during the Super bowl on February 8th. Now, few details have been released, but a website for the event promises more information since soon about who will perform and how fans can watch a survey on the site. It's asking fans what kind of music they like, listing options like country, hip hop and rock. Along with one choice that's labeled anything in English.
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Nyla Simone
The move.
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Charlamagne Tha God
People are crazy as hell.
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Mimi Brown
Petty. Anything.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Anything in English is hilarious. Y' all better not have no nachos at y' all super bowl party crazy. Okay, no nachos at your goddamn super bowl party then.
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Lauren LaRosa
Okay, Absolutely.
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Nyla Simone
So the.
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Mimi Brown
The move appears to be in direct response, of course, to the backlash over the NFL's choice. We know the headliner is Bad Bunny. He's a Puerto Rican superstar known for his chart topping hits and his outstanding or outspoken political views. Now, some conservatives argue that Bad Bunny doesn't quote, reflect American values. So this is what this is all about. The quote unquote, American values.
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Charlamagne Tha God
I would say that Bad Bunny represents of values because that's what America. It is supposed to be about inclusivity. It's supposed to be about, you know, freedom, liberty and justice for all. People come to America to achieve things like Bad Bunny is achieved. Like I would say that Bad Bunny is what you would call the American dream in a lot of ways. Well, you can come from, you know, Puerto Rico is America. What are we talking about?
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Yeah, but not because we want to be.
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Nyla Simone
Exactly.
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Mimi Brown
And America is supposed to be the melting pot. I think that's what you were. Yes, you were saying. Exactly.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, absolutely.
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Mimi Brown
So. All right, well, coming up at seven, it's cuffing season. But this year there's a new player in the mix. We'll tell you what it is and how it's changing the game.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Damn. People still be out here looking to get cuffed. I guess so.
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Every time I get cold.
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Yeah, I guess I don't be thinking about it because I've been cut for.
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Right.
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Caller/Listener
Yeah.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Forever.
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Yeah. Everybody be trying to be comfortable around this time.
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You don't hold all summer, but now you want to be comfortable with one person.
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Absolutely. That's how it goes. Blueprinting never change.
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Well, guess what? For you ladies in a small town. Town. Are you guys in a small town? Everybody know he slept with all summer. So why the hell would they settle down with your stupid ass when they get cold? I'm gonna wait till it's freezing to get chlamydia.
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Oh my God. Stop.
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1-800-585-1051. It's time for get it off your chest. If you want to call up right now and tell us why you're blessed, you could do that. If you want to call up and tell us why you're scratched, you can do that as well. It's the world's most dangerous morning show. The Breakfast Club.
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DJ Envy
The Breakfast Club.
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Charlamagne Tha God
This is your time to get it.
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DJ Envy
Off your chest, whether you're mad or blessed.
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Charlamagne Tha God
I hate the way that you walk.
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The way that you talk. I hate the way that you dress.
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Everything with me is blessed.
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DJ Envy
Call up now, 800-585-1051.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Not just me.
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I'm with the culture feeling. Good morning. Get it off your chest. Who's this?
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Caller/Listener
Good morning, Uber Mike. How y' all doing this morning?
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Charlamagne Tha God
What's up?
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Good morning.
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Caller/Listener
Pretty good. Hey, Charlamagne, I love you, but I got to give you donkey of the day today.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Okay, Talk to me.
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Caller/Listener
Stop. Stop giving Hakeem Jeffries a hard time, man.
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Charlamagne Tha God
I don't give.
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Caller/Listener
Yes, you do. Never go hard at Trump like you do at him, man.
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Charlamagne Tha God
You know what? I hate when y' all say that. Yeah, y' all do remember Trump called me a racist sleaze bag with low IQ earlier this year. Like, I don't know why y' all say that. As if I don't. As if I don't give Trump donkey of the day all the time. I just gave him donkey today, last week.
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Caller/Listener
Huh? You go soft on Trump, man. I'm telling you, dude, Charlemagne.
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Charlamagne Tha God
I don't. I don't. I really don't understand this logic. I think you just.
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Caller/Listener
Two things that I'm out of here, okay? One is what they're doing is Trump has always been trying to get rid of that Affordable Care Act. So he got. He's playing chess with the Democrats. He's playing chess, so now he's blaming it on them. You know, he's a master at creating a narrative. I know that. So my thing is, if their premiums go up, it's going to triple for a lot of people. Then we can't afford to get to the doctor for checkups that Q&MD always stressed us to do.
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Charlamagne Tha God
You know what I would have did if I was the Democrats, even though I'm not a politician, I would have let. I would have let the Republicans do that. Let the health care prices shoot up. And then now you can point the finger directly at Republicans and say, look how Republicans raise your health care. But you know what's happening right now? Everybody's confused because federal workers aren't getting their paychecks. And so now they're pointing the fingers at each other, and everybody's blaming each other for people hurting right now in the moment.
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Caller/Listener
But Trump is doing this, man Charlemagne. He's doing this. He wants to get rid of that.
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Charlamagne Tha God
I'm not saying he's not. I'm just simply saying it would have been easier to point the finger at Republicans and say, hey, there. The reason that your health care prices are up, as opposed to everybody pointing the finger at each other right now saying, this is why the government is shut down. That's why you're not getting paid. It's either Democrats or as Republicans, it's just confusion right now. And guess what? Don't nobody care. Just want their money so they can pay their bills.
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DJ Envy
I agree. I agree.
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Caller/Listener
I'm with all that.
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Charlamagne Tha God
I agree.
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Caller/Listener
But Trump is the one doing it. They have the control. They have the power.
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Charlamagne Tha God
I don't think. I mean, you're right. But once again, I don't think it matters because people just want their paychecks. But if you to let the health care prices shoot, if you didn't let the health care prices shoot up, not saying that, that would have been a good thing. If you're trying to get a political win, it's easier to point the finger at Republicans and say, they caused this.
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Caller/Listener
Right. I got you. Hey, but that's. That's all I want. Stop giving them a hard time.
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Charlamagne Tha God
No, I will not. Have a good day. Peace. Get it off your chest. Who's this?
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Nyla Simone
This is Deanna from Somerville.
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Caller/Listener
How are you?
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Charlamagne Tha God
Good morning, Deanna. How are you?
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Caller/Listener
Good morning, everybody. I just wanted to call in and say how blessed I am. Hey, I had an interview yesterday. We're at become a dental assistant.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Congratulations. Now she a dental assistance. Amazing. Boo.
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Caller/Listener
Right? And people like, people like three for this job, they go to school for a long time for this job. And I just put in my application and not expect to get a call back then. And I had the interview yesterday, y', all, and I'm driving down 26 in my brand new scrub.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Let's go. I 26. Are you going to. Oh, I love Mount Pleasant.
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Caller/Listener
I got the job, man.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Congratulations, man. I'm so happy for you.
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Caller/Listener
I just want to say, don't settle for videography. Go for your dream. Put it in.
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Dr. Joel Tudman
Put it in.
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Charlamagne Tha God
That's right.
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Absolutely, girl. God bless you.
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Thank you for calling. Salute to everybody in Somerville, man. One time for the 843. I love stuff like that you see how happy this woman is? That's why I'll be trying to tell y', all, success is subjective. Everybody think that they got to be some type of super duper millionaire to be successful. No, there's people out there living their dreams, you know, making $50,000 in a place like Somerville, South Carolina. And she's happy.
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Yeah, she is.
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That's what success is about, being happy. Well, get it off your chest. Call us right now. 1-800-585-1051. It's the world's most dangerous morning show, the Breakfast Club.
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DJ Envy
The Breakfast Club.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Hey, what you doing, man? I'm calling you. This is your time to get it.
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DJ Envy
Off your chest, whether you're mad or blessed. 800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Get it off your chest. Who's this?
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DJ Envy
What's up?
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Caller/Listener
This is Leonard.
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Charlamagne Tha God
This is not Leonard.
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This is Leonard. Leonard from where?
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Caller/Listener
Yeah, this ain't this thing. This ain't Uncle Leonard. The same say Charlotte.
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Charlamagne Tha God
But this Leonard, because I'm not a Leonard. I'm a Leonard. I'm so glad my mom ain't put all my goddamn Leonard Leon. No, you're not.
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Your name is Lennard.
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My name is Leonard. Okay, Okay.
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Caller/Listener
I won't get off my chest, man. My uncle, he did 15 years, right? I'm trying to update him with the new technology. I invite him to my gender reveal. I tell him we gonna use AI to do the gender reveal. He come there all happy, but then he get mad when he realized it's not the actual answer. He think it's Allen Iverson doing the gender reveal.
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Charlamagne Tha God
And I can understand why he feel that way. We got exactly Allen Iverson gonna be here this morning, by the way. Next hour, he gon.
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Caller/Listener
Okay. I'll be tuning in, listening.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, he'll be here next hour promoting his new book, Misunderstood. It's his memoir. Man, go buy that for your uncle. The least you can do.
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Hell, yeah.
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Go out to the bookstore today and buy your uncle Misunderstood by Alan Iverson.
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Caller/Listener
Oh, yeah, I can't do that. I'm gonna order it. I can order it online for him.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Yep. What you having? What you have? What y' all having? What was the. What was the reveal?
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Caller/Listener
A girl.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Congratulations.
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Congratulations, girl.
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Caller/Listener
Dad, I appreciate it. Thank y'.
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Charlamagne Tha God
All.
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No problem.
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You met your first.
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Caller/Listener
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, congratulations.
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Congratulations. You're gonna love it.
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Caller/Listener
Yeah, I am. I appreciate it, dog.
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Charlamagne Tha God
All right, brother. Have a good day, man. Get it off your chest. Who's this.
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Caller/Listener
Hi, it's Angel Henderson.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Hey, Angel Henderson. How are you?
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Caller/Listener
Oh, my God. I'm so happy, y'. All. I got through. I'm from Orlando, Florida, and I wanted to tell.
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Allen Iverson
Hey.
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Caller/Listener
Hey, Charlamagne. Hey, Jess.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Hey, girl.
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Caller/Listener
Hey, Laura. The restaurant. Listen, Charlamagne, this is for you. I want to tell you, no matter what nobody say, you keep preaching, preaching the word, the good word. I'm talking about letting us black folks know what's really going on. You have really taught me a lot, because I be listening just about everything. Politics and mental health. You got me started my mental health journey. And I really want to shout out the whole Frito Lay Orlando plan, y'. All. We got it. Yeah. Thank y'. All. Yeah. Thank you.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Thank you.
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So cute.
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Caller/Listener
Let me shout out my boyfriend, Elijah.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, go ahead.
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Okay.
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Caller/Listener
Yes. Yes. Hey, Jess. Oh, my God, Your baby is so pretty.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Thank you, baby.
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Caller/Listener
Hey, Lauren, if you're up there.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Hey.
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Lauren LaRosa
Good morning. Congrats. Thank you.
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Charlamagne Tha God
We appreciate you appreciating us. Salute to your boyfriend, Elijah. You got a very powerful name named after the Honorable Elijah Muhammad.
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Caller/Listener
Thank you so much. And shout out the whole Frito Lay Plant. Orlando.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Salute to the Frito Lay Plant. Orlando. Salute to everybody who listens to us on 1045, the beating. Orlando. Is that where you listen to now? Oh, she hung up.
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Absolutely. In Orlando is one of my favorite cities to go do comedy. And they love it. They love me there.
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Oh, I love Orlando. My aunt lives in Orlando. My mom's sister lives in Orlando. Every summer, we would either be in New Jersey or Orlando.
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Orlando is lit.
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That's where I used to go.
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Yeah.
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Thank you. Get it off your chest. We do that every day, Monday through Friday at 6am now it's time for the Ladies with Lauren. Good morning, Lauren Nerosa.
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Lauren LaRosa
Good morning, y'.
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Dr. Joel Tudman
All.
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Charlamagne Tha God
She said, good morning, Lauren. Hey.
- [19:47]
Lauren LaRosa
Just happy to be here.
- [19:48]
Charlamagne Tha God
We got the latest coming up.
- [19:50]
Lauren LaRosa
We do, y'.
- [19:50]
Charlamagne Tha God
All.
- [19:51]
Lauren LaRosa
We finally got an answer. And it's Drake Defamation lawsuit.
- [19:54]
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, my God.
- [19:56]
Lauren LaRosa
We gonna get into it.
- [19:57]
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay, that's it. That's all done.
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Lauren LaRosa
Done, done.
- [20:01]
Charlamagne Tha God
I can't wait to discuss.
- [20:03]
Lauren LaRosa
I should have brought bottles for you today. Bottles For Charlamagne. Whenever I talk about drinks, I just feel like I need to do that. Don't we gotta.
- [20:10]
Charlamagne Tha God
First of all, don't use me as an excuse to drink, you bunch of drunks.
- [20:13]
First of all, we haven't even been drinking.
- [20:14]
Lauren LaRosa
And it's homecoming weekend, Jess.
- [20:16]
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes, it is.
- [20:17]
Dr. Joel Tudman
College.
- [20:19]
Charlamagne Tha God
That's right. Delaware State Baltimore Community.
- [20:23]
Lauren LaRosa
Baltimore.
- [20:24]
Charlamagne Tha God
Pull up Period. What's up? Morgan State and Coppin State University. Don't play with me.
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It's the latest with Lauren. When we come back. It's the Breakfast Club.
- [20:31]
DJ Envy
The Breakfast Club.
- [20:35]
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes. It's the world's most dangerous morning show. The Breakfast Club. Charlemagne the God. Just hilarious. DJ Envy. Envy is off today, but it is time for the Latest with Lauren LaRosa.
- [20:43]
Lauren becoming a straight face.
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She gets them from somebody that knows somebody. She gets the details.
- [20:49]
Lauren LaRosa
I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything.
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Charlamagne Tha God
She be having the latest on this.
- [20:56]
DJ Envy
The Latest with Lauren LaRosa.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Sometimes you have facts, sometimes you have details. Sometimes she have a little bit of everything. Who is the latest on the Breakfast Club?
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Caller/Listener
Talk to me.
- [21:05]
Lauren LaRosa
This is a very sad day for Drake because a judge has decided to dismiss the lawsuit, the defamation lawsuit against Universal Music Group that he has over.
- [21:17]
Charlamagne Tha God
Not Like Us after all that.
- [21:20]
Lauren LaRosa
Yes. So the, the docs say from the judge because the court concludes that the alleged. That the alleged defamatory statements and Not Like Us are non actionable opinion. The motion to dismiss is granted. Because when Drake filed the lawsuit, Universal Music Group came back and said, judge, this is a waste of time. This is just a song. There's no, there's no proven fact here that we defamed anything. We want you to dismiss this. And the judge is saying yes now. Yeah. So Drake's attorney has already given statements to some outlets. Didn't respond to me, but they said it's not. Yeah, but they said that they plan to appeal this and they look forward to taking this to appeals court. But Universal Music Group did send a statement to me as soon as this lawsuit was filed. And they say a spokesperson from Universal Group Music Group says from the outset this suit was an affront to all artists in their creative expression and never should have seen the light of day. We are pleased with the course dismissal and look forward to continuing our work, successfully promoting Drake's music and investing in his career. I felt like that was the biggest. Sit down over there in the corner and have a seat.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Listen. Uphill Orange Pill, Chemical Pill, Kendrick Lamar and five. All right, all right. This lawsuit wasn't filed for any other reason other than Drake's feelings. Was hurt because Kendrick busted his ass in a rap battle. It's really that simple. And I'm shocked the lawsuit lasted a year and even got this far. This man got his ass busted in a good old fashioned rap battle. Nothing more, nothing less. And we just have never seen how Drake reacts under real pressure and you learn a lot more about people in defeat than you do in a win. And we learned that Drake is a sole loser. That's it.
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Yo. And then, like, would this further damage his ego? I know it is.
- [23:03]
Lauren LaRosa
It has to, because it's gonna be crazy.
- [23:04]
Charlamagne Tha God
It's like a big ass slap in the face. I mean, to him. Yeah, yeah.
- [23:08]
Lauren LaRosa
But also, too. So I read. It's 38 pages. The judge's response. And I read. You read all that because. Yeah, thoroughly. Because I wanted to know. Defamation is a hard thing to make somebody say, yes, you were defamed to. So I wanted to know exactly what the judge thought about his claims, because he said he had it up like art.
- [23:25]
Charlamagne Tha God
It's already hard enough when somebody defames you just talking.
- [23:28]
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah.
- [23:29]
Charlamagne Tha God
But then when you do it through art and you got all the free speech laws, like, come on, man.
- [23:33]
Lauren LaRosa
So the judge said that you got to look at this a couple ways. First of all, you got to look at the forum, which is where the, like. Like, whatever the defaming claims were made. And the judge gave the example of, like, if you see something on, like, Twitter or in, like, an opinion column versus, like, a serious journalistic website, you. You look at it differently. So when we're looking at these claims made in a diss song, people are going to believe that it's just a fiery moment and that the stuff that's being said may not be fact. The judge also very definitely listened to all the songs, pulled out parts from all the songs on both Drake and Kendrick's side, where they were both going back and forth at each other, and made the point that even though Drake was saying that the court needed to look at Not Like Us as an isolated event. And this one claim and this one thing happened, and it's ruining my career, and UMG is behind it. The judge is like, we can't do that. We got to look at everything because we need to figure out where all this came from. And if we're looking at everything, it was basically, you guys were both doing the same thing.
- [24:29]
Charlamagne Tha God
Yo, imagine. Imagine that the judge listening to through all the records, like, no, he ate this.
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Like, why do we act like, based off Drake's logic, he didn't defame Kendrick. This man said Kendrick beat his. Beat his wife. Kendrick, one of Kendrick children, was by his best friend. Oh, my God. Why are they calling them short? Don't nobody ever think about the vertically challenged.
- [24:49]
I know. Come on now, because y'.
- [24:50]
Dr. Joel Tudman
All.
- [24:50]
Charlamagne Tha God
Do we get like, you see how you just did? You just levitated a little bit about.
- [24:56]
That through all of the insults that was thrown. Don't nobody ever bring up just calling this man short over and over the impact it might have had on him. But luckily our height don't fight. That's why Kendrick busted Drake's ass.
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He did.
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Caller/Listener
He did.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Damn I'm Yo Drake, I'm so sorry. I know he ready to be real mad and imagine how me like the amount of laughing at him.
- [25:18]
Lauren LaRosa
DJ Muster posted on X yesterday Laughing laughing emojis. And I'm I'm only going to infer that those emojis were laughing at this lawsuit.
- [25:26]
Charlamagne Tha God
We would have been stopped talking about this ass kicking. Drake. You keep reminding us of this ass kicking. You keep reminding us that Kendrick busted your ass how he ain't even nothing by the lawsuit. See, I look at it a couple of ways. I look at it in a couple.
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- [27:29]
Allen Iverson
All I know is what I've been told and that to have truth is a whole lie.
- [27:34]
Podcast Narrator
For almost a decade, the murder of an 18 year old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved until a local homemaker, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story.
- [27:49]
Caller/Listener
I'm telling you, we know Quincy killed her.
- [27:52]
Podcast Narrator
We know a story that law enforcement used to convict six people and that got the citizen investigator on national tv.
- [28:01]
Caller/Listener
Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky housewife helped give justice to Jessica Curran.
- [28:08]
Podcast Narrator
My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist producer, and I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find.
- [28:18]
Charlamagne Tha God
I did not know her and I did not kill her or rape or burn or any of that other stuff.
- [28:23]
DJ Envy
That y' all said.
- [28:24]
Charlamagne Tha God
They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her.
- [28:27]
Nyla Simone
They made me say that I poured.
- [28:28]
Charlamagne Tha God
Gas on her.
- [28:32]
Podcast Narrator
From Lava for good. This is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame.
- [28:42]
DJ Envy
America, y' all better wake the hell up. Bad things happens to good people and small towns.
- [28:51]
Podcast Narrator
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Charlamagne Tha God
Ways I'm talking about is the fact that Drake is biracial. So I'm looking at it from a black and white perspective. Okay? His daddy side engaged in a rap battle. His daddy said, God damn, fight. God damn, fight, fight. And then when Kendrick busted his ass, his mama side said, oh no, Aubrey, we going to the police. Okay, that's what happened.
- [29:30]
Allen Iverson
That's right.
- [29:31]
Lauren LaRosa
And like, honestly, I feel like the judge's answer also made you remember. I mean, you. We were there, so we remember how big the song was when it first hit. But this was like a re reminder. I was reading it like if I was Drake. I hope he doesn't read this full 30.
- [29:43]
Charlamagne Tha God
You mean a re reminder. Not like us at the super bowl in February. A bunch of Grammys, but not like us in February.
- [29:53]
Lauren LaRosa
Super Bowl 2.0. They pointed out already a reminder.
- [29:56]
Charlamagne Tha God
You don't have to say re reminder. It's just re reminder.
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That's right.
- [30:03]
Lauren LaRosa
I'm trying to tell Y', all, I was reading this like, I hope Drake has some people around him if they have to take a look at this.
- [30:09]
Charlamagne Tha God
People around him for what? The hug?
- [30:10]
Lauren LaRosa
Yes.
- [30:11]
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes. Yo, I was reading it like, I'm.
- [30:13]
Lauren LaRosa
Not even gonna hold you. I was reading this like, the. The judge listen to all these songs, and she's a Kendrick fan now, I bet.
- [30:20]
Charlamagne Tha God
That's why I said, imagine the judge listening to it, going back and forth. Like, imagine her favorite song being Euph.
- [30:25]
Lauren LaRosa
Like one of Kendrick's songs.
- [30:27]
Charlamagne Tha God
Sk.
- [30:28]
Lauren LaRosa
Like, scathing. Like. And then he came back with the scathing and fiery. I'm like, oh. She felt that. I forget which. I think it was great.
- [30:34]
Charlamagne Tha God
Laura said Drake got emotional support. People got emotional support, dogs. Is that what you think Chubs and Baka are?
- [30:42]
Allen Iverson
They need to be.
- [30:43]
Lauren LaRosa
If they are grown men, they need to be.
- [30:45]
Charlamagne Tha God
If they ain't.
- [30:46]
Lauren LaRosa
Man, you trying to touch somebody sometimes you just need support, man.
- [30:50]
Charlamagne Tha God
You lost a rap battle, man. Suck it up. Up. Like, God damn. It's just a rap battle.
- [30:54]
Lauren LaRosa
This is the last thing I will say as we close. Drake's team also tried to make a point throughout this lawsuit that we were not smart enough to understand the full context of a rap battle. Like, one song, then another song, then another song that not like us dropped, and it made us forget everything. And that's why it's so defamatory. And UMG is. Is the cause of it. And the judge said, you sound crazy and you shouldn't be using stuff from social media to prove evidence. And it's not substantial.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, them guys really not like us because they don't understand how rap battles work. That's exactly how rap battles work.
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Caller/Listener
Work.
- [31:24]
Charlamagne Tha God
You go. I go. You go. I go. And then eventually one of us gonna go so hard that the whole crowd gonna be like, oh, like, if you think about 8 Mile. Right.
- [31:33]
Yes.
- [31:33]
You don't remember nothing other after that last Rapine talking about himself? Yup.
- [31:39]
And then start talking about the other.
- [31:40]
That's what I'm saying.
- [31:41]
No, I don't. I don't remember.
- [31:43]
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah, well, he argued that not like us was so big that nothing else should matter. And the judge said, that doesn't make any sense.
- [31:49]
Charlamagne Tha God
No, he's. He's right. Nothing like not like us was so big that nothing else mattered in that battle.
- [31:54]
Lauren LaRosa
But not to where we believe that Drake was a pedophile.
- [31:57]
Charlamagne Tha God
No. Nobody ever thought that's what he's trying to say. Just like I never thought Kendrick beat his wife or. I never thought. Yeah. You know, Kendrick was. I don't even think Kendrick short for real. His presence is too big. I don't even see a small. I don't even see a short man.
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Literally went to the concert in my life and yeah, he looked like a little angel.
- [32:18]
No, he looked larger than life to me. I bet you he look like a giant to Drake. I bet you Drake go to sleep. And Kendrick looked 10ft feet tall.
- [32:24]
Yo, you are stupid.
- [32:26]
You know what I want to hear right now. You already know. God damn it. Okay.
- [32:30]
Lauren LaRosa
You are standing for the short.
- [32:32]
Charlamagne Tha God
We can't tell.
- [32:33]
When we come back, we got front page news. Plus, Allen Iverson will be joining us this hour. It's the world's most dangerous morning show, the Breakfast Club. Yes, it's the world's most dangerous morning show, the Breakfast Club. Charlemagne, the God. Just hilarious. DJ Envy. DJ Envy is off the day, but it's time for front page News with Mimi Brown.
- [32:47]
Hey, girl.
- [32:48]
Good morning, Mimi. Oh, let me say too too, The Las Vegas Aces are playing the Phoenix Mercury tonight at 8pm on ESPN. I love when games come on late on a Friday because I ain't, you know, I don't have to be up early tomorrow.
- [32:57]
And a Giants one. Congratulations. Big Giants.
- [33:01]
Don't nobody care. You know why don't nobody care? Because I like this. I love the city of Philly, by the way. Okay, I know you, but I also love New York, but I hate their teams.
- [33:09]
Okay, but they won. What are the Cowboys on? Oh, okay.
- [33:13]
We got a better regulation.
- [33:14]
It don't matter. They won yesterday and we beat the Giants this year. Big up New York. What's up, Mimi?
- [33:19]
Hey, Mimi.
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Mimi Brown
What's up, Jess? And charlamagne. Okay, so we start this hour in New York where Attorney General Letitia James, the Democrat who took on Donald Trump's business empire, is now facing criminal charges of her own. A federal grand jury in Virginia indicted James on two felony counts, bank fraud and making false statements to a financial institution tied to what prosecutors call a fraudulent mortgage scheme. Now, it makes her the second high profile Trump critic to face criminal charges after former FBI Director James Comey's indictment. Now, according to the 10 page indictment filed Thursday in the Eastern District of Virginia, prosecutor prosecutors alleged that James misrepresented the purpose of a home she purchased back in Norfolk in 2020. They say she applied for a second home mortgage, a type of loan that comes with lower rates, but then rented out the property to tenants, violating the terms of the loan and pocketing roughly $19,000 in what they call improper games. Now, Federal prosecutors also accuse her of repeating those misrepresentations on insurance and tax documents. Lindsey Halligan, Trump's former personal attorney turned interim U.S. attorney for the District, announced the charges yesterday, saying, no one is above the law. Now, James, she quickly fired back, calling these. Calling these allegations a desperate political attack from a president determined to. To punish his critics. Let's hear more of what she had to say.
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Charlamagne Tha God
He's forcing federal law enforcement agencies to do his bidding, all because I did.
- [34:51]
Mimi Brown
My job as a New York State Attorney general. These charges are baseless, and the president's.
- [34:57]
Charlamagne Tha God
Own public statements make clear that his only goal is political retribution at any cost.
- [35:03]
She's absolutely right. And that's why we got to stop acting like Donald Trump doesn't have a hit list. Like, this is nothing but revenge. Like, it's almost pointless to even read what Tis James is being charged with because it's some B.S. like, Trump doesn't hide anything in regards to who he has a problem with. He told y' all he hates his opponents. He tells you who he doesn't want on tv. He tells you, you know what politicians he wants jailed. He wants people. He wants to do people exactly the way that he was done when they were coming after him. I don't even think he cares. These people get charged. I mean, get convicted or not.
- [35:31]
Mimi Brown
Just getting ready to say that. Analysts, a lot of people are saying it doesn't even matter if they get charged. It's just the fact that they have to go before judge. They have to take that perf block. They have to do all of those things. So it's a win for him either way.
- [35:42]
Charlamagne Tha God
So, yeah, he can't get shot. He cares if they get charged. You don't care if they get convicted.
- [35:45]
Mimi Brown
Exactly, exactly.
- [35:46]
Charlamagne Tha God
You said they got to take a perk walk.
- [35:48]
Mimi Brown
I mean, that's basically what he's in it for.
- [35:52]
Charlamagne Tha God
Girl, what you know about a perk.
- [35:53]
Was, first of all, I can see them taking a perk. This is stressful, all right? I wouldn't blame any of them if they took a perk.
- [36:00]
A perk walk is crazy, okay?
- [36:04]
Oh, perp.
- [36:05]
Well, girl, I thought you talking about percussion.
- [36:08]
You get arrested and they had to bring you in front of the judge. Yes.
- [36:12]
On the way out the store, girl, they used to come and grab me by my little elbow. Like, don't turn around. Don't make a scene.
- [36:19]
Mimi Brown
All right, well, court documents show that U.S. district Judge Jamar Walker, which is a Biden appointee, will preside over the case. She is set to make her first court appearance on October 24th in Norfolk. So we will continue to watch what happens in that case. And while one New York official is fighting charges of her own, the city she represents is taking on a different kind of battle. Big tech. So on World Mental Health Day, New York City is asking a judge to hold Facebook, TikTok, YouTube and others accountable for what it calls a youth mental health crisis, claiming the apps are designed to keep kids hooked, even at the expense of their well being. In a 327 page federal complaint, the city says platforms have become a public nuisance, forcing schools and hospitals to shoulder mental health burdens that they did not choose. So according to the lawsuit, the companies allege that these, these social media companies built algorithms, notifications and engagement loops that exploit psychological vulnerabilities in teenagers, contributing to depression, anxiety, self harm, and other serious outcomes. And New York says it is now being forced to pay the price. More counseling, more hospital visits, more strain on schools. And these types of lawsuits, they are not just limited to New York. In fact, more than 30 states have already they have pending or past actions against meta alleging that Facebook and Instagram are harming mental health. Youth mental health, definitely.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Well, we can also do our best as parents to keep our kids off those platforms. Like, I don't allow my kids to use social media and they don't miss it because they never had it. Okay, now that damn YouTube and those tablets with Roblox, that's a different story. But you can't miss what you never experienced.
- [38:04]
Mimi Brown
And so after all the talk about how social media is reshaping our mental health, now artificial intelligence is changing something else. How we connect. So we've all heard of cuffing season, that time of year when the weather cools down and people start looking to lock in a partner before winter, they are still doing Charlemagne. Yep, yep, it runs from October to February. But this year, the dating game is looking a little different. Thanks to AI, people are now turning to dating apps and plugins that use artificial intelligence to help them slide into someone's DM. So apps like Riz, GPT, your move, CupID Bot, among others, what they do is they analyze your profile and then help you craft everything from that perfect icebreaker to that clever one liner. Developers say it's meant to take the pressure off of people who freeze up when trying to start a conversation. But critics say it takes the authenticity out of dating. So dating coaches, they're already seeing it play out in real time, with some people admitting they're not sure they're falling for a person or falling for an algorithm.
- [39:09]
Charlamagne Tha God
But you see, it's like ups and downs with that. Right? Because I like it. Because this gives the people who can't talk to women, you know, the. The socially awkward people that still want to date. It gives them a chance to be able to communicate with a woman. You know what I'm saying?
- [39:24]
Lauren LaRosa
You think so?
- [39:25]
Mimi Brown
Because to me, it feels like a different form of catfishing, because am I talking to you, or are you putting what I say in an app and then spitting it out? What you gonna say about back to me?
- [39:35]
Charlamagne Tha God
That's very true. And shouldn't you have a limit on how many times you talk to a person through the computer? At some point, if there's some interest, y' all should meet up and look in each other's eyes, you know, see what each other smell like. Right?
- [39:45]
Right. But you gotta take the lessons, though. Like, you gotta. You can't just be on there, just, oh, how do I say this to the girl? You have to be able to be trained by it. You know, you got to learn something from it. And then you can even be honest. When we do meet up and see each other for the first time, and I smell you and all that, and you don't. You don't think I. You have to be honest, be like, look, I ain't gonna hold you. I ain't really know how to, you know, spit the game to you. So I asked, you know, chat gbt, how to holla at you. You know, I'm gonna get better with it. But I, I. At least I did my due diligence on trying.
- [40:15]
Mimi Brown
Yeah.
- [40:16]
Charlamagne Tha God
So I put the effort in to try to get. To communicate with you, to get to this point right here.
- [40:20]
Yeah. And I'm gonna tell you something. For all the medium ugly guys like myself, yeah. The computer does you a disservice. And I'll tell you why. I would have never overachieved in the women's department the way I did in my life if it wasn't for face to face conversation? Because, you know, because, you know, if I was just talking to a woman during the computer, they'd be like, oh, you know, blah, blah, blah, he's interesting. Whatever. But then when they meet me, they like, oh, my God, when you present the medium ugly from the beginning, and. But then they'd be like, oh, he's funny. Oh, he might be smart. Oh, you know, I like his conversation. Then it's different. That grows over time. You. You start to look past the medium ugly.
- [40:54]
Yeah. Talking about being ugly. We talking about communication. Like we have to know how.
- [40:58]
If it wasn't for communication, I would have never overachieved in the woman' department. But the communication being face to face, eye to eye is what makes that happen. Thank you, Mimi.
- [41:07]
Thank you so much.
- [41:08]
Thank you.
- [41:08]
Mimi Brown
All right, y'.
- [41:08]
Allen Iverson
All.
- [41:09]
Mimi Brown
Well, that's your front page news. I'm Mimi Brown. Follow me at Mimi Brown tv. For more stories, follow Black Information Network and Download the free iHeartRadio app, visit bin news dot com.
- [41:19]
Charlamagne Tha God
We appreciate you, Mimi. And listen, today is Friday, so, you know, we do the people's donkey on Friday. So if you want to call up and give somebody the credit they deserve for being stupid, you can do that right now. 1-800-585-1051. And we, when we come back, a cultural icon, a person who shifted culture in ways that, you know, we are still feeling today. Mr. Allen Iverson will be here to talk about his new book, Misunderstood. It is a memoir. It's out right now. And he'll be joining us when we come back. It's the world's most dangerous morning show, the Breakfast Club.
- [41:49]
DJ Envy
The Breakfast Club.
- [41:52]
Charlamagne Tha God
Morning, everybody.
- [41:53]
Allen Iverson
It's Dej Envy, just hilarious show Charlemagne the God we are the Breakfast Club.
- [41:58]
Charlamagne Tha God
Lauren Laros is here as well.
- [41:59]
Allen Iverson
We got a special guest in the building.
- [42:01]
Charlamagne Tha God
Come on, man. Another cultural icon. We having a week of cultural icons, bro. AI, Allen, I Bumper Chuck, whatever you want to call him, Mr. 757. He's in the building. New book, misunderstood is out right now. Allen Iverson, ladies and gentlemen.
- [42:14]
Good morning.
- [42:14]
Allen Iverson
How you feeling, man?
- [42:15]
DJ Envy
Good.
- [42:16]
Allen Iverson
Life, life be life. It's same fight, different round. Before we start, how much time we at?
- [42:21]
Charlamagne Tha God
As much time as you want.
- [42:23]
Allen Iverson
Cuz I don't know how where this going to go, but look, man, friends. All right, So I know you know what type of I mean. I'm just mean, Jess. But you know, you know how you get to know somebody from afar and you can basically kind of tell what type of person they are, you know what I mean? Obviously I've known you since I was in high school and big fan of you, bro. Friendships, man, it's hard because when you think about your friend, obviously, you know, you can't choose your family members. You know what I mean? You born into that. But your friends, you feel like y' all got so much in common with each other and you have so much love for them because, you know, they kind of like a basically a reflection of you or you got the same type of things in common or whatever. And you just grow to love them like family. They become, you know, the guys become brothers and your homegirls become your sisters. But it's rough, man, navigating through that, you know what I mean? I know how much I love my family, my friends. I got so much flack when I first got into the league, you know what I mean? It was the entourage.
- [43:30]
Charlamagne Tha God
Absolutely.
- [43:31]
Allen Iverson
Bringing your homeboys from where you from. You trust them so much, you love them, you want them to go on the ride with you. You want them to take this journey, you know, through it is new to me. I've been poor all my whole life, and then snap of a finger, I'm rich and famous and it's a lot, you know what I mean? So you want to have so many people around you that you love and you trust, you know what I mean? And the money, man, just, you know what I mean? It just, you know, and it's so different for me, and it's so hard for me because with my athletic ability that I was blessed with, I've been like this since I was 8 years old. Like, I always felt that I was rich when I was poor. I always been famous, you know what I mean? When I was 8 years old, I go in the barbershop and guys, 17, 18, 20, 25 years old, guys like, oh, there you go, you know, that's the one right there. That's him. So it's always been that for me, I always had that attention, you know what I mean? I always been like that. You know, once I got some money, it was no different for me. Obviously, I could do things with my family and my friends that I couldn't do before. You know, that goes without saying, man. Just the painful lessons of friends not being who you think they are. When you add the root of all evil and the things.
- [44:56]
Charlamagne Tha God
Did something just recently happen?
- [44:57]
Allen Iverson
Definitely. It happens all the time. But I feel a pendulum swinging in another direction as far as how I feel about it, like how it used to hurt me, you know what I mean? You. You tell someone, you want to find out if somebody, your friend, you tell them. No one.
- [45:14]
DJ Envy
That's right. That's right.
- [45:15]
Allen Iverson
You know what I mean?
- [45:15]
DJ Envy
That's right.
- [45:16]
Allen Iverson
And their reaction would. Would say it all, you know what I mean? Chuck? Hey, man, I got a business, you know, opportunity. I want to start this, I want to start that, man. Can you give me a hundred thousand? And you don't even have to tell them no. Yeah, you can say, not right now, you know? Later on. But these are the same people. Pay their rent, pay that over the years. Child support, you know, pay your mom rent, you know, this, that.
- [45:42]
Charlamagne Tha God
Lawyer fees.
- [45:43]
Allen Iverson
Lawyer fees. Every time you go to a jewelry store, you taking them, you know, because the. The most awkward feeling is I don't want to be shining and looking good and my homeboy is not. So when I go see, man money, you know what I mean? They going, you know what I mean? When I get caused, they get caused. You know what I mean? Like, and it's just like, when you tell them, no, the way they, you know, they act, you know, somebody saying this, hey, yo, man, what's up with your man, AI? You know what's up with a man?
- [46:12]
Charlamagne Tha God
Damn.
- [46:13]
Allen Iverson
You know what I mean?
- [46:14]
Charlamagne Tha God
Like, after reading your book, nobody should question your loyalty. I ever said, not the way you.
- [46:18]
Allen Iverson
Took care of people, what you've seen. But do you regret that? Because, I mean, I. I took Virginia. That's you everywhere you went. That's why I say the pendulum is swinging. That's what. That's why I say or feel that my maturation is on a higher level now. Because back then, when something traumatic would happen to me like that, or I see how they act, for me telling them no, I. I feel myself not giving a damn anymore. Like, you know what I mean?
- [46:49]
Charlamagne Tha God
Even in the book, there's nobody. It felt like that was around you that didn't help you in some way, shape, or form, so you was re repaying them. Like, you talk about how when you was in jail, they was taking care of your mom, and they were the ones that would tell you, you know, you're not gonna be hustling. You're gonna be playing ball. So it wasn't like you just had a bunch of leeches around you was. It was people that looked out for you, so you look back out for them.
- [47:10]
Allen Iverson
You know, what if I look out for one of my homeboys, my homegirl, I don't expect you to give it back. You know what I mean? I ain't never asked for nothing back. You know what I mean? I just feel like me being the head of the snake, the perfect example. It's like me being on our 2001 team, went to the finals. I'm the killer. Everybody know that. This is the guy gonna put the ball in the basket. This is what he do. Now, what we do is compliment him. We do everything else. All his deficiencies, the things that he can't do on the defensive end of the, you know, of the court, you know, he's, he's. He's leading the league and stills year after year. But you gotta gamble. And when he gamble, Dikembe is there to make sure I'm good. Theo is there. The block shots make sure I'm good. They could do all of the things that I couldn't do. And that's what, that's what made Voltron, you know what I mean? You put all those things together and that. It was me and a bunch of dogs, you know what I mean? And it's the same thing with my friendship. Yeah, he's the guy guy. People look at him another way. So I have a role. I, you know, I have to do this. This is my part. This is what I have to do.
- [48:15]
Charlamagne Tha God
Another thing too. And maybe this could be part of what you feeling right now. It seemed like the whole team had a dream. It wasn't. It wasn't. You supposed to get on in basketball. You supposed to get on in basketball, and everybody else was supposed to make it in rap. So everybody was supposed to be doing their own thing.
- [48:28]
Allen Iverson
I didn't have the. I didn't have the LeBron James, mad Randy. I didn't have that blueprint footprint, you know what I mean? I'm like, look, we gonna get in where we fit in, you know what I mean? Like, I had one of my homeboys tell me, like, I'm going to work every day, working every day. Matt's supposed to be a superstar by now. I'm going to work. I'm like, like I've had incidents. Like, you know, I'm. I'm getting ready to go on the road. And it was a casino. I go to the bank, I get 50, 000. They got 30, 000 in large and 20,000 and, you know, 20s. And I'm getting on the plane, my man come, I give him the 20,000. He looked at it like it was something wrong with it because it was all twenties, you know what I mean? Like, yo, did this, you know, really just. Did that really just happen, you know what I mean? Like, and it's. It's like you can. You thinking you doing what's right, but you only, you're not holding people accountable, right? You're being a crutch for him. It's like putting a band aid on something, you know what I mean? You're not stitching it up, you know what I mean? Not stapling it up, you know what I mean? And they always feel like that, you know what I mean? But, like, the hurtful part is the response of actually saying no, Aaron McKee told me, said, chuck, just, you know, I mean, when you. When you cutting your grass, you know what I mean, and you getting them snakes out of there, let him ask you for something and tell them no. You know, I mean, I. And I think I'm doing a great job of cutting it, but you still got the little small. You know, the snakes might be gone, but some worms in there. Some small.
- [50:07]
Charlamagne Tha God
You know, right now, it's Charles Barkley and a whole bunch of people saying, we was trying to tell him this 30 years ago.
- [50:13]
Allen Iverson
Like, it's just like, the basketball aspect, everything. I ain't never think that I would retire that early. You know what I mean?
- [50:19]
DJ Envy
I.
- [50:20]
Allen Iverson
Man, I ain't never had no backup plan. Like, growing up once my mom told me I could be anything I wanted to be. I wanted to be an NBA basketball player. And that was it. It was no. It was no B, C, D. It was just that. That one dream. You know, I. Coach Thompson used to always tell me, you always listening to everybody else. You're always listening to somebody that's never been to, you know, from A to Z telling you how to get there. You know what I mean? And that's what I was. I had everybody that wasn't me and never had the experience telling me how to do it.
- [50:54]
Charlamagne Tha God
I want to ask you about the title of the book, man. Do you think you were misunderstood? That's the title of the book? Or did people outside of your circle just not take the time to understand you?
- [51:04]
Allen Iverson
You a smart dude?
- [51:06]
Charlamagne Tha God
Sometimes.
- [51:08]
Dr. Joel Tudman
A lot.
- [51:09]
Allen Iverson
This is one of my favorite shows. So I, you know, I see the good days and the bad days.
- [51:13]
Charlamagne Tha God
You've been ducking. You been ducking this for a long time.
- [51:15]
Dr. Joel Tudman
Somebody seen Black?
- [51:16]
Charlamagne Tha God
I'mma come. I'mma come.
- [51:17]
Allen Iverson
I watched Dame come up here. It's for real.
- [51:22]
Dr. Joel Tudman
It.
- [51:23]
Allen Iverson
Get real. I think they can answer it better. My perspective is they were learning on the fly, too. It's like, you know, with my documentary that's coming out, it was like three hours long. I think I cried, like, two and a half hours of it. I had to keep walking out of the theater because you think, you know, when it comes to people that love you, you think you know how they feel about, you know, turbulent times.
- [51:48]
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
- [51:49]
Allen Iverson
You know what I mean? And you think you know how your girl feel. You think you know how your mom feel, your uncles, your aunts, your homeboys, your homegirls. But then when they actually tell you from their point of view how they felt, you Know, and how they looked at things and how I didn't see how I was up, how they had to try to address me with certain things, like, you know, you driving the car.
- [52:11]
Charlamagne Tha God
We.
- [52:12]
Allen Iverson
We riding shotgun. And it's hard to tell somebody, you know, that's trying to live their life, what they should do and what they shouldn't do, you know what I mean? Like, I'm 21 years old. You know what I mean? When I got into the league at that age, like, you couldn't. You couldn't. You couldn't tell me nothing, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm here. You know what I mean? Like, the dress code. I'm like. I dress like the dudes, the.
- [52:38]
Charlamagne Tha God
The.
- [52:38]
Allen Iverson
The drug dealers from my neighborhood. Like, you know, I'm. I'm dressing like this because, you know, this what I. The old heads from. From my neighborhood, this how they dress, you know what I mean? I just couldn't afford it, you know what I mean? My cornrows. I got cornrows because I was tired of barbers messing my hair up. So I'm like, damn, if I just grow my hair, you know, I ain't got to deal with that. You know, Tattoos just got addictive. I got one. I couldn't afford them. I would have been. Got a lot of them. My daddy was a hustler, you know what I mean? He was in the streets. My mom in the streets. Like, I didn't have no.
- [53:11]
Charlamagne Tha God
I didn't sit you down and give you structure. Yo, this is how you wasn't no.
- [53:15]
Allen Iverson
Coach Thompson then, you know what I mean? Those people, they weren't in my life yet. So all of that was where he was. He was. But he was there when I got to the NBA, me and his phone calls was, you know, you all right? We never talked about basketball. You all right? Yeah, I'm all right.
- [53:33]
DJ Envy
All right.
- [53:34]
Allen Iverson
I'm just checking on y' all Swanna. Good. How the kids, you know what I mean? That was it. He was allowing me and thinking. He was preparing me at Georgetown for what was the inevitable. Me going to the league. But you can't prepare for that, bro.
- [53:49]
Charlamagne Tha God
How was that pressure, though?
- [53:50]
Allen Iverson
Cause the nicest player, right?
- [53:52]
Charlamagne Tha God
But you change culture. But when you change the culture, the.
- [53:55]
Allen Iverson
NBA pushed back against it. But you never broke. You never folded, even though you. They could have said. They could have banned AI and said, now, we don't want you in our league.
- [54:03]
Charlamagne Tha God
But you never folded.
- [54:04]
Allen Iverson
You never backed down, and you kept it that way, which hurt you at times. Why was that? They profited off it, too. You know what I mean? I would be on. One of the things that hurt me is I was on a magazine. They wanted me on a magazine because of my talent and who I was. But they airbrushed my tattoos off. So you want me, but you. You know, you want some of me. I took the ass whooping for it.
- [54:26]
DJ Envy
It.
- [54:27]
Allen Iverson
But the dress code thing, like, I actually was just. You know what I mean? I. I was 21. Where am I going after the game? Going to the club. You know what I mean? Like, before that, you. They were used to dudes wearing suits, and you know what I mean? I was like, damn. Like, I've never worn a suit. Growing up, going to church or to a funeral. The only time I put on a.
- [54:47]
Charlamagne Tha God
Suit in the courtroom.
- [54:48]
Allen Iverson
In the courtroom, I definitely. In the courtroom. So I never wore a suit to the. To the gym, to play, to the. To the park, sweatsuit, you know what I mean? Or whatever, you know what I'm saying? So I ain't think. I ain't think nothing of it. David Stern and rest of the NBA was like, nah. Because it was all right when I was doing it. But then everybody else said, okay, like, he can do that. We can do this. So then everybody, you know, you see Kobe coming in with the diamond chains on and the baggy clothes and. And, you know, everybody started doing it. Then the league was like, hold on. We gotta do something about that. So it wasn't anything malicious like, in that whole situation. Showed me a lot and proved a lot to me at a young age about stereotyping people. Cause, you know, when you seen John Gotti, John Gotti kept on a $2,000 suit.
- [55:42]
Charlamagne Tha God
But what was he. That's right.
- [55:43]
Allen Iverson
He get busy.
- [55:44]
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
- [55:44]
Allen Iverson
You know what I mean? So it ain't about what you got on the outside, is who you are.
- [55:48]
Charlamagne Tha God
And they said that bothered you the.
- [55:50]
Allen Iverson
Most when they labeled you a thug. Yeah, I'll be cool with a street dude cool with that, because that's what I am. I mean, that's where I come from. That's all I've ever been around in my life. That's what I grew up around. But a thug, like, nah, that's a. That's a stretch.
- [56:09]
Charlamagne Tha God
I was wondering, would you change things? And the reason I asked that, because even in the book, you understood you had to wear a suit to court, but you didn't want to do it for press conferences in the NBA.
- [56:19]
Allen Iverson
I was bad advice. Like, I was. You know, I was told to Take a. Go to trial and go off whatever the judge say opposed to having a jury. That was bad advice. Yeah, you know what I mean? Some of it. But I was getting advice from people that never had been through it, you know what I mean? I was told that if I wore a suit then they'd be lenient. I was, Yeah, I was. Was extremely wrong.
- [56:44]
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, so you wish you to just water.
- [56:50]
Allen Iverson
I remember, I remember that same suit. I was in a, in a sale. It was 100 degrees with no, no fans in there. In a holding sale. I was in a four man sale with 15 people, you know what I mean? And that suit, when they came got me, I was in the corner with my boxes on, you know what I mean, Soaking wet and the suit was balled up in the corner. When they came and got me out of there, I had on my box boxes, you know what I mean? So. I don't know. I.
- [57:15]
Charlamagne Tha God
Do you regret anything?
- [57:17]
Allen Iverson
Nah. Because I wouldn't be who I am now. I wouldn't change anything, man. In my life, all of these experiences, even with the book, man, it's like I love, like I, I, my, my girl always talked to me about, why do you let like what I started talking about in the beginning. Why do you let that type of bother you?
- [57:34]
Charlamagne Tha God
And I'm like the practice press conference.
- [57:36]
Allen Iverson
No, just, just with my friends. How people who, you know what I mean? It's like, why? And, and yeah, I don't know, you know what I mean? Like, I love the people that I love and it hurt when they show you who they really are.
- [57:49]
Charlamagne Tha God
Of course.
- [57:50]
Allen Iverson
Because I'm thinking you somebody else, you know what I mean? And she like, you know, why do you stress out over stuff like that? And what you different. You have a talent and you, you're blessed to be able to brush that stuff off. It's hard for me now. My talent obviously is, you know, legendary. With who? But I think another blessed blessing that I have is to be an open book, to be someone I'm embarrassed about. Practice rent. I'm embarrassed about. Not really embarrassed, but it wasn't smart for me to, you know, because I, I remember, you know, people telling me, AI, you cannot take care of everybody. And I used to let it go on one end right out the other, like, yo, so you know what I mean? I'm gonna be the exception to the rule. I'm gonna take care of the people that I love. Like, that's just me, you know what I mean? And.
- [58:42]
Charlamagne Tha God
I think that's why I hurt you.
- [58:44]
Lauren LaRosa
So bad.
- [58:44]
Charlamagne Tha God
Cause your heart is in it. You love these people, you know? Yeah, yeah, you Superman. But you still have a heart, you know what I mean?
- [58:49]
Dr. Joel Tudman
And you.
- [58:50]
Mimi Brown
Like.
- [58:51]
Allen Iverson
But this is. But this is my. This is my gift. Like, this is my gift to this book, this. This documentary, my experiences, the turbulence, the ups and downs. Like, if one kid or one adult, whatever, read this book and they can take something from it.
- [59:06]
Charlamagne Tha God
I have.
- [59:07]
Allen Iverson
People come to me all the time, be like, yo, man, you inspired my life, man. I would have died if it was for you. I would have went to jail for the rest of my life. You know what I mean? Like, you. You changed my life. And that. That motivate me. You know what I mean? Like, to. To give more. Like, to. To. Even when you embarrass, you're uncomfortable, you know, talk about it. Somebody might not have to go through it. Somebody might. You might save somebody's life.
- [59:29]
DJ Envy
I agree.
- [59:29]
Allen Iverson
You know what I mean? Like, talk about it, man, you was on top of the world. You had all the money. You know what I mean? All you had to do. It's easy for a. To tell Chuck what to do with his. Easy for somebody to say, what I would have did, man, if I was him, I would have did. You ain't me. You know what I mean? You don't know how. I'm sorry.
- [59:47]
Charlamagne Tha God
Do your thing.
- [59:48]
Allen Iverson
You, not me. You know what I mean? I make mistakes. I'm human, just like you. I seen an interview. You gave up drinking six months ago. Yes.
- [59:55]
Charlamagne Tha God
What got you to that point where you said, this is enough?
- [59:57]
Allen Iverson
It was. It was. I'll be lying if I would say it just. Just stopped abruptly. You know what I mean? It was. It was situations, you know what I mean? I. You know, where's my at? You know what I mean? Like, I know I put it here. You know what I mean? The same thing with having certain guys around you. Everybody. When. When. When they.
- [60:16]
Charlamagne Tha God
Your people.
- [60:16]
Allen Iverson
Your people know. When you drunk?
- [60:18]
Dr. Joel Tudman
No.
- [60:19]
Charlamagne Tha God
Just chill.
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Charlamagne Tha God
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DJ Envy
That y' all said.
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Charlamagne Tha God
They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her.
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Charlamagne Tha God
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DJ Envy
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- [63:55]
Allen Iverson
Two more glasses of D, man. Hey, yo, man up right now, man. God damn it. I need you. You know what I'm saying, Man? My disk going on. That going on, man. I need you.
- [64:07]
Charlamagne Tha God
Waited till I get this in, because.
- [64:08]
Allen Iverson
When I and Emmy just talked about it.
- [64:11]
Charlamagne Tha God
When I get nice, man. Will give you the shirt on.
- [64:17]
Allen Iverson
Yo, I went to sleep last night. I had 25,000 on me.
- [64:22]
Dr. Joel Tudman
Man.
- [64:22]
Allen Iverson
I got 1200.
- [64:24]
Charlamagne Tha God
Couldn't wait to run to the look of.
- [64:28]
Allen Iverson
Where my sneakers at. Where my man, you gave such and such your, Your, Your, Your Lewish. You gave your sister your. Your, Your. Your. Your fur coat. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, and that's just. That's just small compared to the. The real, you know what I mean? Not feeling well, you know what I mean? I mean, I did all this, and I was having fun last night to wake up feeling like this, you know what I mean? Then my responsibilities, you. You know what I mean? You missing flights and. You know what I mean? I mean, just a plethora of things, man. You just drinking, you know what I'm saying? Like, I started evaluating, like, what good does it do for me?
- [65:11]
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, yeah.
- [65:12]
Allen Iverson
You understand? Like, you. I mean, you can have fun with your homeboys, your homegirls, you know what I mean? Without that. And I talk to God about it. I asked them to help me be strong. I ain't go to no AA or nothing like that. Like, I said. I was like, okay, I'm not. I'm not doing it. And that's what it was. And the crazy thing about it is I've been with her for 15. I'm. For 35 years, and since I was 15. And this crazy part about it is she said when I told her I was stopping that after that, she prayed on it, and she said that was the only time that she ever prayed on it. Like, I said it plenty of times in the past.
- [65:53]
DJ Envy
Ass.
- [65:53]
Allen Iverson
And she said that was the only time that she prayed on it and.
- [65:56]
Lauren LaRosa
I was authentic with it as a husband. What have you discovered?
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Allen Iverson
I'm boyfriend. Y' all married to life, man.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Y' all married tonight.
- [66:07]
Allen Iverson
I mean, we got divorced.
- [66:08]
Charlamagne Tha God
So you married, divorced, and y' all got right back together, like six months later or something.
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Allen Iverson
You said, I'm. I mean, I don't. I. I wanna. I don't. I want this point to be made because you think I'm who I am, and I was out of control. I was out of control. And this threat was there for years for Years and years and years and years and years. And it's like the boy cried wolf. Like, whatever. I heard that before.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
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Allen Iverson
You know what I mean? And then it was like she got to the point where like, yo, I gotta show this. I gotta do something to show him I'm serious.
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Caller/Listener
Series.
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Allen Iverson
And that's what happened. You're in that courtroom. You looking over there and you see number one right there, and you looking down at that paver and them tears hitting that. That paper. And they don't say, you know, I've been Georgetown versus Georgetown, and it's been a scrimmage or sixes versus Sixes. And you looking at the stat sheet, whatever. I'm looking at Iverson vs. Iverson, you know what I mean? And like, yo, is real. You know what I mean? Like, did you wear a suit?
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Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
- [67:17]
Allen Iverson
Look, I really was defiant then.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Okay?
- [67:19]
Allen Iverson
You know what I mean? Like, you got me in here. You know what I mean? Like. And I had a judge. The judge was. Was vicious. Like, I couldn't do nothing right.
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Lauren LaRosa
Even in that moment, you were defiant and I guess upset, even though you knew because you said you knew you were out of control. But so, like, in that moment where. Why are you defining upset if she's just doing what she thinks is going to help. Help, I guess, to get you to a better spot for her.
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Allen Iverson
I was selfishly thinking about my demise because I know in my heart and in my mind that I can't live without her. You know what I'm saying? Like, I know it. Like, I. I know it. I. I took. I. I took her love for me for granted. You know what I mean? Like, as far as she loving me so much that I felt like, you know, that she would never. She would never go. Go nowhere. Like, I've. This. All I've known. This is the only love that I've ever known as far as. Like, I've never loved someone like this in my life. You know what I mean? Then a lot of times, you know, all women would say, or even guys, you know, anybody that's, you know, logical about anything. How you love us so much and you do the things.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
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Allen Iverson
And I don't have an answer for it.
- [68:31]
Charlamagne Tha God
We never do, though, as men. We never do. We don't know why we do the things we do.
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Lauren LaRosa
So how has not drinking and, you know, it seems like you're, you know, your focus is different in this time of your life. How has that made you guys rediscover each other in a relationship?
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Allen Iverson
Oh, yeah, I'm, I'm Claire Huxtable. I mean, Cliff, she's Claire. I'm Cliff Huxtable now. Like, I'm, I'm, I'm. I kind of get a feeling like I'm the guy. Like I felt, always felt like, you know, I was the guy she always wanted, you know what I mean? Wanted to, you know, wanted, Wanted me to be. But I really feel like that guy now. Like, I feel like it's, it's not the Hux booth around there, obviously, but like, she love, you know, this me, you know, because you always getting this me. It's hard to take advantage of somebody that can see clear as hell, you.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Know what I mean?
- [69:22]
Allen Iverson
Opposed to being nonchalant about everything, you know what I mean? Like, it's, you know, my homeboy says a different Chuck, you know what I mean? I see, I see what's going on, you know what I mean? All the stuff that I used to not pay attention to, I'm paying attention to it now, you know what I mean? And I just think by me making this decision is so much better for not just myself, everybody around me, I can help better. My advice is better, you know what I mean? I'm a better friend now. I'm a better family member. I, you know, this is clear, you know what I'm saying? Like, I, I, I promise you, I, I'm the smartest man in the world, because I know I'm not.
- [70:06]
Charlamagne Tha God
They saying you got a rap, but I do got one last question, man. You, you changed the entire culture of basketball. But to me, you changed black culture. You also changed hip hop culture from your fashion to your attitude to just your authenticity. When you see how the NBA and the world embraces individuality now, do you feel celebrated or do you still feel misunderstood?
- [70:27]
Allen Iverson
It's, I get the opportunity. Like, this is opportunity for me, you know what I mean? Like, all of those years you wanted to, you know, you wanted this. Ah, man, you got me wrong. Talk about it to your family, your friends. Man, I'm misunderstood, man. They don't, they ain't getting it, you know, I mean, it ain't like that. And then this platform and then all the other other big platforms and, you know, just you guys giving me the opportunity to come up here and ask me that. I want to answer that. I want the world to know. And this book took years, you know what I mean? The documentary took years to do. I'm just happy that I get an opportunity to tell my story or write my story and help and help somebody. All I want is for people to get out of it, man. It's all right to be you. It's all right.
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Charlamagne Tha God
That's right.
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Allen Iverson
You know what I mean? And it's. It's things that's gonna happen in your life, and it's gonna be tough, you know what I mean? But that's when you gonna lean on number one. You're gonna lean on him. You gonna lean on God. You don't. You don't ask them any. You don't question them at all. You know what I mean? Whatever happened, happened. I ain't never. My grandma told me when I went to jail, that bowling alley thing, I said, man, why are they doing this to me if they know I didn't do what they said I did? Don't question God. Never question God. And I've never done it since then. You know what I mean? Whatever he do, you know what I mean? I'm cool with it. You know what I mean? He driving this car, and I'm just sitting there, ride shotgun. Wherever he take me, that's where I'm going. And I'm gonna live with the results. So that's. That's the only thing I want. I just think, man, live and last. Have love, man. And we love you, brother.
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Charlamagne Tha God
We love you, too. Is out right now. It's the walk out.
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I got go.
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Alan. Ion, it's the breakfast club. Good morning. The younger me is so pleased.
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Lauren LaRosa
Me too.
- [72:27]
Charlamagne Tha God
Allan Iverson and little John in the same week shaped my formative years. You know how many memories I. I have attached to those individuals? I know it's time for the latest Lauren.
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Lauren becoming a straight face.
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She gets them from somebody that knows somebody.
- [72:42]
Lauren LaRosa
I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything.
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Charlamagne Tha God
She'd be having the latest on this, the Latest with Lauren LaRosa. Sometimes you have facts. Sometimes you have details. Sometimes you have a little bit everything. Well, it's the latest on the breakfast club.
- [72:58]
Lauren LaRosa
So. Paul Pierce, Boston Celtics legend, was arrested Tuesday. The California highway patrol reported that authorities found him asleep while he was in the driver's seat of his range Rover as it was in the middle of traffic on the 101 freeway in the San Fernando valley. Cops say lanes have been closed on the highway while a crash investigation occurred. And Paul Pierce, who was sleeping, was discovered following their reopening at around 11:35pm Officers noted that. Officers noted signs of alcohol impairment when officers encountered Pierce. The.
- [73:30]
Mimi Brown
The.
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Lauren LaRosa
The police say they conducted a DUI investigation. Pierce was arrested on suspicion of driving under the influence of alcohol, a violation of California vehicle code, and taken into a central Los Angeles area office.
- [73:44]
Charlamagne Tha God
Now, how do you know he was drunk? Did they do a breathalyzer? Did they smell liquor? Because I'm telling you something, when you 47, sometimes I just be driving mid afternoon and I'd be tired as hell. I ain't gonna take. I'll be calling my wife, like, I gotta pull over or something. I'm sleepy.
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Lauren LaRosa
Well, they said they conducted a DUI investigation, but to your point, and you know, also your age, Paul Pierce says he posted a photo and it. The photo is literally him sitting in traffic in the high on the highway in the driver's seat. And he says, imagine being stuck in standstill traffic for 45 minutes and fall asleep. I took this picture that night because I'd never been in standstill traffic for this long. I'm old, I'm tired, and I fell asleep.
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Caller/Listener
Sleep.
- [74:23]
Lauren LaRosa
I'm good, y'. All. Thanks for the love, man.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Drop on the clues Bombs and Paul piss. Why do y' all just jump to the dui? I need more proof that there was a dui, because I totally understand him.
- [74:31]
Right.
- [74:31]
I. When I overstand him at this age.
- [74:35]
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah. I said to your point, to your.
- [74:37]
Charlamagne Tha God
To your age, I ain't talking to you.
- [74:39]
Lauren LaRosa
Okay. Yeah, okay. All right, cool.
- [74:41]
Charlamagne Tha God
The police who act like they ain't old.
- [74:44]
Lauren LaRosa
Well, in other sports news. Yeah. So the Asus Mercury WNBA Finals game are putting up viewership numbers that are breaking records. So. Yes. So they are putting up numbers that we have not seen in decades. So according to ESPN, the 2025 WNBA Finals between the Las Vegas Aces and the Phoenix Mercury have produced the most viewed WNBA Finals through two games since 2000.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Ooh, drop on the clues. Bonds for the Aces and Mercury.
- [75:10]
Lauren LaRosa
Yes. So according to ESPN, they're averaging 1.5 million viewers between games on ESPN and ABC. And that's the biggest number through two games since the Houston comments. And the New York Liberty average 1.54 million viewers in 2000 with games on NB in lifetime.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Thank you, Columbia, South Carolina. Thank you, Roscoe and Eva Wilson. Thank you, Heathwood Hall. Thank you, University of South Carolina. Thank you, Don Stanley for producing and developing the face of the league. A woman who, if she keeps going at this pace, will be the greatest woman basketball player of all time, Asia Wilson. Okay. That's why we watching. Okay.
- [75:44]
Mimi Brown
Period.
- [75:46]
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay.
- [75:46]
Lauren LaRosa
Damn. No, I like you overstating that point because people was trying to say some other things. Things I saw reports that The. That viewership was not the same because Caitlin Clark. Caitlin Clark wasn't playing.
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Charlamagne Tha God
I don't know nothing about that.
- [76:01]
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah, so I. I actually love that you overstated that point. When is their game? This weekend?
- [76:05]
Charlamagne Tha God
Tonight. Tonight in Phoenix. Yes. Dropping the clues bombs for the Las Vegas Aces. And Phoenix. Phoenix and Mercury.
- [76:13]
Lauren LaRosa
Well, our last showdown of the hour. Little John, John and DJ Paul. So Lil John posted like a screen recording of like a. A FaceTime. And he says, or they say, because both of them collabed on a post on Instagram. Tune in here tomorrow at 3pm or today at 3pm Eastern Standard Time to settle this crunk conversation for good. Cousins, Memphis and Atlanta representatives DJ Paul and Lil John. Talk it out. Who started crunk? Hashtag. Crunk. Hashtag. Who started crunk?
- [76:44]
Charlamagne Tha God
Crunk.
- [76:44]
Oh, wow.
- [76:45]
Lauren LaRosa
Who started crunch?
- [76:46]
Charlamagne Tha God
They'll be playing music there. I don't know, like the Memphis hits or the Memphis crunk or whatever. And then Atlanta crunk.
- [76:53]
Lauren LaRosa
I feel like they should. We have some. We have some music that I.
- [76:55]
Charlamagne Tha God
Little John was up here, right?
- [76:57]
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah, Little John was up here.
- [76:57]
Charlamagne Tha God
This where the conversation started.
- [76:59]
Lauren LaRosa
Yes. 100. And we got some of the hits. But I mean, you said that you felt like Lil John and East side Boys. No, you said three, six.
- [77:07]
Charlamagne Tha God
No, he said Master P. No, Little.
- [77:09]
Lauren LaRosa
John said Master P. Yeah, Little John said Master P. Little John and the Master P posted it. Shout out to Master P. Little John.
- [77:15]
Charlamagne Tha God
Is the face of crunk, but to me, it was three, six Mafia. Okay, I'm sorry, but I do. I do agree with John with what he said. When it came to getting Rowdy Roddy, it was Master P. But Little John and the Pastor Troys of the world, they took crunk to a whole other level. They gave it a name to me in a brand.
- [77:34]
Lauren LaRosa
Well, we got some songs. You helped me with the three, six songs, and we grabbed our own Little John songs. And I will say why.
- [77:39]
Charlamagne Tha God
I wasn't even outside then.
- [77:41]
Lauren LaRosa
No, I was outside, but it was a different type of outside. I realized that. That we didn't know it was cr. We just love.
- [77:49]
Charlamagne Tha God
I did tell you them songs. I thought you was just asking me. I know you was asking me to play crazy Duh.
- [77:54]
Lauren LaRosa
Because I felt like I wanted to get it right, but I don't know if we got it right on the Little John side.
- [77:59]
Charlamagne Tha God
You could have went a little harder on John. Yeah, you could have played Throw Him Up. You could have played Get Crunk. You could have went a little harder.
- [78:03]
Lauren LaRosa
You know, you being like the real, like, deep Cut south.
- [78:06]
Allen Iverson
That.
- [78:07]
Charlamagne Tha God
That three, six different though.
- [78:08]
He was outside. Okay?
- [78:09]
Lauren LaRosa
See my.
- [78:10]
Charlamagne Tha God
That was our era. That's when you had to know how to fight to be outside. Okay? Because you just never knew.
- [78:15]
Lauren LaRosa
You knew I had to know how to fight to be outside of my house. When Nuck, if you buck dropped in the party, you knew your people. If you ain't getting along, you know they was coming. Like you had to know what you ain't never heard.
- [78:27]
Charlamagne Tha God
Listen, it's a knuckles. Your buck is a Negro spiritual. Don't get it twisted. When a. When a song plays that is literally challenging you. I bet you won't hit a mother. I bet you won't. And you got drugs in you and alcohol. And you just staring at somebody looking stupid. You don't even know them. You just swing off on them cuz they dared you. Challenged you.
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That's what I'm talking about. That's what she's saying. It used to be the same way in Delaware.
- [78:51]
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah, but it's just like they would bump you in the club. Speaking of, Delaware, make sure y' all come out. We not doing none of this, though. Today, Delaware say homecoming.
- [78:58]
Charlamagne Tha God
Dirty ass jackets.
- [79:00]
Lauren LaRosa
First of all, this is entire studios, baby. This is a good little don't. Okay, cuz you mad cause I asked you how you used to dress in Monk's Corner. And I knew that them white tees you wore four times in a row, and it was dirty and dingy.
- [79:13]
Charlamagne Tha God
That.
- [79:13]
Now tear the club up.
- [79:15]
Lauren LaRosa
Take that T shirt off.
- [79:16]
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, my God.
- [79:17]
And your socks too small. What the hell?
- [79:19]
Lauren LaRosa
All right, y'. All.
- [79:20]
Charlamagne Tha God
The heel part is in the middle with a foot.
- [79:21]
I bet you gonna hit a mother, though.
- [79:23]
Lauren LaRosa
No, we not.
- [79:24]
Charlamagne Tha God
That's what I told you when you went live with that scarf on, doing all that woofing online. I said, I bet you won't hit him.
- [79:31]
Lauren LaRosa
Who you wanted her to hit?
- [79:33]
Charlamagne Tha God
I don't know. I was talking.
- [79:34]
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah, right.
- [79:36]
Charlamagne Tha God
Shout out.
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When we come back, we got the people's donkey call up right now and tell us who you want to give the biggest hee haw to. It's the Breakfast Club. You're checking out the Breakfast Club.
- [79:53]
DJ Envy
It's your time to nominate a donkey of your own.
- [79:55]
Charlamagne Tha God
Remember now, that is how they choose.
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Allen Iverson
Call in now.
- [80:00]
Charlamagne Tha God
800-585-1051. Yes. Donkey today for Friday, October 10th, World Mental Health Day, it's the people's donkey. This is where we allow you the opportunity to call in and give somebody the credit they deserve for being stupid. So good morning. Who's this.
- [80:14]
Caller/Listener
Yo, what's going on? This is Dre from Queens.
- [80:16]
Charlamagne Tha God
Dre, who? You want to give the biggest he haw to? Dre. Man, I'm giving dunk here today to.
- [80:19]
Caller/Listener
My girlfriend, little brother Manny, man, We do everything for his ass, man. Take care of him. And we just asked his ass to do some chores, clean the crib.
- [80:26]
Charlamagne Tha God
And it's a problem.
- [80:27]
Caller/Listener
He fighting. He talking back like a little girl.
- [80:30]
Charlamagne Tha God
And everything, man, and I'm just tired of it. How old. How old is it?
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You.
- [80:34]
Caller/Listener
Me? I'm 23.
- [80:35]
Charlamagne Tha God
How old is Manny? Manny is 18.
- [80:38]
Caller/Listener
And we telling him we turning into.
- [80:39]
Charlamagne Tha God
A man now, man. So you got to start taking on responsibility.
- [80:42]
Caller/Listener
And it's just chill. Nothing crazy we asking him to do.
- [80:45]
Charlamagne Tha God
All right. Man, be careful with that little Y N, man. He come home with a goddamn, you know, a goddamn stick with a switch on it. You. You know what I mean?
- [80:52]
Caller/Listener
Hell, no.
- [80:53]
Charlamagne Tha God
I beat his ass quick. Okay. All right. Thank you for calling my brother. Good morning. Who's this?
- [81:00]
Dr. Joel Tudman
Good morning.
- [81:00]
Caller/Listener
It's Chantha.
- [81:01]
Charlamagne Tha God
How are y'?
- [81:01]
Dr. Joel Tudman
All?
- [81:02]
Charlamagne Tha God
Blessed, black and highly favored. How are you? Who you wanna get a biggest hee haw to?
- [81:06]
Caller/Listener
Oh, to my daughter's dad.
- [81:08]
Charlamagne Tha God
What's his name?
- [81:09]
Caller/Listener
His name is Dee Dee.
- [81:11]
Charlamagne Tha God
From where?
- [81:12]
Caller/Listener
Little Beach, South Carolina.
- [81:14]
Charlamagne Tha God
Damn. What he did?
- [81:15]
Caller/Listener
Oh, look, take care of your kid. Mom said he has to call you and tell you to call your child and tell her hi.
- [81:21]
Charlamagne Tha God
Damn.
- [81:22]
Caller/Listener
You wake up every day with your girlfriend's kids. No offense to him. Love him. But take care of your kid. How you taking care of somebody else's? Call yours.
- [81:30]
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, I agree with that wholeheartedly. I'm gonna be honest with you. I don't. Those type of people really, really piss me off. Because, you know, it's one thing to just ignore kids all together, right? If you don't take care of your kids, you don't take care of your kids. But if you don't take care of your kids, but you taking care of somebody else's kids or somebody else's grandkids, I don't respect that at all.
- [81:49]
Caller/Listener
Not at all. Not at all.
- [81:51]
Charlamagne Tha God
Well, I hope D hears this and, you know, he gets his mind right.
- [81:54]
Caller/Listener
Right.
- [81:55]
Charlamagne Tha God
Good morning. Who's this?
- [81:56]
Caller/Listener
KP from Nashville.
- [81:58]
Charlamagne Tha God
Kp who you want to get a biggest he haw to?
- [82:00]
Caller/Listener
Man, I want to give it to Saquon Barkley, because he ain't.
- [82:03]
Charlamagne Tha God
He. He messed up a few of my parlays last night. I just needed him for a touchdown and about 60 yards, and he couldn't.
- [82:09]
Caller/Listener
Do that and he lost to his former team. So, yeah, he got dunkey of the day.
- [82:13]
Charlamagne Tha God
Why y' all be acting like running backs have a long shelf life. Like, like, like. And that's the crazy thing about being a running back. You might have a fantastic year, like he had year, and then come back this year and not be hitting on nothing. I'm saying, like.
- [82:24]
Caller/Listener
But you can't just run. You can't.
- [82:25]
Charlamagne Tha God
You the running back, you can't run the ball in when you first and goal. Listen, running backs have to short his career of any NFL position. I'm just telling y', all, this man's donkey.
- [82:35]
He's given the donkey of the day to Saquon, and I don't even know.
- [82:38]
Why I'm sticking up Saquon. I hate the Giants and the Eagles.
- [82:41]
Caller/Listener
Dak.
- [82:42]
Charlamagne Tha God
Dak Prescott.
- [82:43]
Caller/Listener
Now, he ain't.
- [82:44]
Charlamagne Tha God
He deserve a donkey, too, but that's another day. I think Dak taking us to the super bowl this year, and I think he the mvp. But you know, I'm a delusional cowboy fan, so don't listen to me. Good morning. Who's. Who's this? Good morning. Morning.
- [82:53]
Caller/Listener
This is Casey.
- [82:54]
Charlamagne Tha God
Casey.
- [82:55]
Caller/Listener
Yes, sir.
- [82:55]
Charlamagne Tha God
Who you want to get the biggest? He haw to Casey, man.
- [82:58]
Caller/Listener
I just want to get a bigger. He has my boss, man. Me and my co worker work all day, every day, hard.
- [83:03]
Charlamagne Tha God
No, no, no, no. You got to say his name, and you got to say where you work. Don't call up here.
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No, he can't do.
- [83:07]
Lauren LaRosa
Yes, he can.
- [83:08]
Charlamagne Tha God
You can't.
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DJ Envy
I don't.
- [83:08]
Charlamagne Tha God
Like, you can't be anonymous, bro. I don't be anonymous with my donkeys. Come on, now. Who?
- [83:12]
Yeah. Cause you don't give them to nobody.
- [83:14]
I ain't gonna get fired. I ain't gonna get fired, man.
- [83:17]
Caller/Listener
I work in. I work in a beer factory.
- [83:20]
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay, okay, okay. Well, say you was drunk. You ain't mean, and you ain't me, and. Okay, so tell me. Nah, me and my coworker, man, we work all day, every day.
- [83:29]
Caller/Listener
And he just a yes man to.
- [83:30]
Charlamagne Tha God
These white people, man. Does he pay you? Nah, he don't pay me.
- [83:34]
Caller/Listener
The company?
- [83:34]
Charlamagne Tha God
No, no, no, no. That's what I'm saying. Does the company pay y'?
- [83:36]
Dr. Joel Tudman
All?
- [83:36]
Caller/Listener
Yeah, the company pays.
- [83:37]
Charlamagne Tha God
So what else you supposed to be other than a yes man? Like, what is he? This is his job.
- [83:41]
You don't have to be a yes man.
- [83:43]
Caller/Listener
If you were here to see it, then you would understand it.
- [83:46]
Charlamagne Tha God
I gotta see it. Cause I'm like, what did he Say, come to work. Yes. Okay. No, we need you to work these hours. Yes. All right. I don't understand. When y' all say he a yes man at a company, he working. Good morning. Who's this?
- [83:59]
Caller/Listener
This is Roxy. From Alabama to North Carolina.
- [84:02]
Charlamagne Tha God
Hey, Roxy. How you doing, man? I'm gonna be in Alabama soon, too. I'm gonna tell y' all next week. I'm gonna be at it.
- [84:07]
Caller/Listener
Oh, yeah. We love you, Charlamagne. Good morning, Jess. Good morning, Lauren.
- [84:11]
Charlamagne Tha God
Good morning, baby.
- [84:12]
Caller/Listener
This morning, is it?
- [84:13]
Charlamagne Tha God
No, he not here. Who you want to get a biggest he Hawk?
- [84:15]
Caller/Listener
He got to come to work. I'mma get a bigger he Hawk. I'm giving names this morning, y'. All.
- [84:20]
Charlamagne Tha God
There you go.
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Caller/Listener
Out there in North Carolina. Out here in North Carolina. I'm giving Dr. Today the area that's my ex boyfriend, baby mama. And she didn't press some false charges on me. And I got a gatekeeper order where she can't press charges on me. So she didn't mess up her poor old probation situation. Now she finna go to jail trying to put me in jail for no reason.
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Charlamagne Tha God
What kind of fake charges you put on you?
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Caller/Listener
Stalking charges, honey. And I ain't got time to stalk her. Cause she a whole crackhead. And I work, I got three kids, I'm in school. All type of stuff going on. I don't stalk this part crackhead.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Well, you know, crack Mickey. Paranoid now. So she might have thought you were stalking her when you wasn't.
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Caller/Listener
No, I think she want me more than her baby daddy want me. That's what I think.
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Lauren LaRosa
What's going on? Talk about it. That's the real thing.
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Charlamagne Tha God
That's the real tea behind a crack.
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So you might.
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Caller/Listener
Yes, ma', am, it is.
- [85:07]
Charlamagne Tha God
So you might need to go sit on her face one time. Times just for the coaches.
- [85:13]
Caller/Listener
First of all, just sit on no crackhead face. I might catch something.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Don't judge people who slept with crackheads. Sometimes it's just a true.
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Caller/Listener
I'm judging everybody who slept with a crackhead. I know a lot of men who slept with crackheads, and they look like crackheads. Now.
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Charlamagne Tha God
That's not true, because I did when I was back young, back in the day.
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Caller/Listener
What, you sold crack for a week?
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Lauren LaRosa
Charlamagne.
- [85:33]
Caller/Listener
That don't count.
- [85:34]
Charlamagne Tha God
Hey, y', all, I slept with a crackhead. I guess during that week.
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Hey, yo, you a clown, yo.
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Crazy.
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I mean, changed your life.
- [85:44]
Well, thank you for calling. Good morning. Who's this?
- [85:46]
Caller/Listener
Hey, good morning. This is Storm.
- [85:48]
Charlamagne Tha God
Peace. Storm, we gonna get a biggest hee haw, too.
- [85:51]
Caller/Listener
I wanna give the biggest hee haw to jt. I feel like she's going on a Nicky rant. She need to take her loss and bow down.
- [85:59]
Charlamagne Tha God
I mean.
- [85:59]
Caller/Listener
Cause every time I cut on the radio, I put magnet on, baby. Just take that loss. Don't be another Drake.
- [86:05]
Charlamagne Tha God
Dang, that's right.
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Well, jto, we ain't got to worry about JT soon for losing a rap battle. That much we know. Well, thank you for calling. That's the people's donkey. We do it every Friday. You can call in and give somebody the biggest hee Haw. But today is World Mental Health Day, man. I want y' all to know that. And tomorrow is my fifth annual Mental Wealth Expo at the Joel and Diane Bloom Wellness and Event center in Newark, New Jersey, from 11:00am to 4:00pm It's a free event. We got some of the best mental health professionals in the country. Jason Wilson, Debbie Brown, Dr. Alfie Bran, Noble people like Angela Rye will be there sharing her experiences. Deontay Wilder will be there sharing his experiences. But my good brother, Dr. J. Barnett, will be there, and he's going to be joining us Next along with Dr. Joel Tudman. Because today is World Mental Health Day, man. And these are two brothers who are not afraid. Afraid to be vulnerable and help you get mentally healthy. So we're going to talk to them brothers when we come back. It's the world's most dangerous morning show. The Breakfast Club.
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DJ Envy
The Breakfast Club.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Yes. It's the world's most dangerous morning show. The Breakfast Club. Charlemagne. The God, DJ. Envy. Just hilarious. Envy's not here, but Lauren LaRosa is in, and we got some special guests in the building, man. The good brother, Dr. J. Barnett, along with Dr. Joel Tutman. How y' all brothers doing, man?
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DJ Envy
Man, we good, man.
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Dr. Joel Tudman
Feeling good this morning, man.
- [87:22]
DJ Envy
Feeling real good, you know.
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Charlamagne Tha God
You see Dr. J on the Just Hill podcast, y'. All. Y' all going to Just Hill tour together?
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DJ Envy
Yeah.
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Allen Iverson
Yeah, man.
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Dr. Joel Tudman
So it's been exciting, man. The Just Hill podcast with Dr. J. Man, we lunched back in April, and just to see how it's grown. Shaw was on me for years. Like, bro, you got to do a podcast. Got to, like, you got to be on the network. And I'm. I wasn't, if I can be honest, I wasn't a. A podcaster, because I'm like, man, Jess, how.
- [87:53]
DJ Envy
This is.
- [87:53]
Dr. Joel Tudman
This is a gift that y' all do to get up and. And to talk and all of that. I love to speak because when I Speak. It's. I have this. This structure that I follow, and then I'm. I'm going these different places. But podcast has really grown me to hear other people's stories. So it's like therapy in real time. And from having my sis, Taraji, on Kirk Franklin, Rico Love. And then I have some people who are just everyday people that are sharing their healing journeys and just sharing where they are. So it's been a fun journey, man. So now I could officially say Jess. I'm a podcaster.
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Charlamagne Tha God
I love it.
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Lauren LaRosa
You guys have, like, a really cool dynamic because, I mean, you're a pastor. You do with mental health and, like, all these things. Right? But y' all know, in our community, a lot of times when you're going through stuff, people, like, just pray about it. How do y' all have conversations around that?
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DJ Envy
It's more than prayer. I think prayer is very essential, but it's the backbone. It's a substratum of everything. But there has to be practical application, because you're human. So that is the spiritual component. But if you don't have friendship, you don't have people that can help walk you through the journey, then you'll often become lost. And I like to say people become mystic. They just stay in this spooky vehicle. And. And again, that's not to talk about the church background, because I have a strong church background. But having therapists, having people that can actually supply sufficient support, really can help change the dynamic of what you're going through. I think that's very important.
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Charlamagne Tha God
And, Dr. Joe, you used to be a associate pastor at the Potter House, right?
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DJ Envy
Yes, sir.
- [89:27]
Charlamagne Tha God
But then you left to go to Florida. I didn't know that could happen. They made it sound like he was transferring schools or something. Are you a. You were playing one place, and you went to go someplace which way?
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Lauren LaRosa
You didn't know that could happen?
- [89:40]
Charlamagne Tha God
I mean, I just. The way they. I guess. I guess the Potter house.
- [89:42]
Lauren LaRosa
So big the way they.
- [89:43]
Charlamagne Tha God
You know, the way they worded it. I'm like, okay, no, no.
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DJ Envy
I went there to learn from who I believe to be the greatest of all time.
- [89:49]
Charlamagne Tha God
Absolutely.
- [89:49]
DJ Envy
I think Bishop Jakes is the greatest of all times. And I went there to learn, and there was an opportunity that opened up in Florida, and so that's how I ended up there. I ended up there because he trained me, I was prepared, and we ended up in Florida, and God's been good to me since I've been there.
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Lauren LaRosa
Leave.
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Charlamagne Tha God
How did that work, though? Like, when you, like. Like, what does the spirit tell you, like, I want to be. I need you to go, you know, lead this congregation, not lead this flock. Now, like, what. What is it?
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Dr. Joel Tudman
What.
- [90:15]
Charlamagne Tha God
What hits you?
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DJ Envy
When I was in Oklahoma originally, and when I was there, I knew that I wasn't going to be there forever. And so the opportunity for change didn't start at the Potter's house. I was coaching at Oklahoma State University and. And pastoring at the same time. And so the opportunity to shift came at a good season. Church was doing fine. My work was doing great, and I went to preach for Bishop Jakes. So I had to sit back and realize, okay, the things that I want to see happen in the future, career wise and ministry wise, came through an opportunity of another individual. There wasn't a voice from heaven that came down and said, move. It wasn't that. It was a man of God looked at me and said, said, what's your future? What. What do you. What do you want to be? What do you see happening? Where you want to go? And when I told him that, then it unlocked something for me to start looking at. And when I started looking at it, I started saying all the insufficiencies, all the places that needed work, all the places that needed a model or mentor, and he filled that void. And then from there, it was a challenge. What do you want? And I had to answer that question. And that answer was, move.
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Dr. Joel Tudman
Wow.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Is that. That's what y' all met, right?
- [91:26]
Caller/Listener
Right?
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Dr. Joel Tudman
Yeah, yeah, we. We met in. In Dallas. A friend of mine had sent me a video, and like, yo, I just found your spirit animal. I was like, all right. So I started watching his clips. He in the gym killing it. And, you know, he's a strength and conditioning cold. So we got the whole football background, but I'm watching how he speak, and I said, yo, I really rock with this dude. So I'm going. Said, pause. I slid his DMs.
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DJ Envy
But.
- [91:53]
Charlamagne Tha God
But I.
- [91:54]
Dr. Joel Tudman
But I hit him up and like. Like, yo, brother, I love what you're doing, man. And we. We had some exchange, but didn't know that we both moved to Dallas during the pandemic at the same time. And slowly, you know, started kind of engaging. But I'd engage him to come on my tour. The Jesse or bro. I had four voices, and I was like, you know, we need a five. And I could reached out to him. I said, bro, I want you to go on tour. Now, here's the story about the development of French. This brother was not having it, Jess.
- [92:23]
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay?
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Dr. Joel Tudman
And the more I would text him and like, hey man, you know brother, you know, look forward to having you on tour. He would come on the tour, he would get on stage, do his thing and would just sit in the back and wouldn't say anything.
- [92:35]
Charlamagne Tha God
Right.
- [92:36]
Dr. Joel Tudman
And I felt, you know, that he needed friendship. But I also felt compelled. Like I. I just couldn't let it go.
- [92:44]
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
- [92:44]
Dr. Joel Tudman
And I would text him and check in on him like, hey man, I hope you all is well brother.
- [92:48]
Charlamagne Tha God
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Caller/Listener
All I know is what I've been.
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Allen Iverson
Told and that's a half truth is a whole lie.
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Podcast Narrator
For almost a decade, the murder of an 18 year old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved until a local homemaker, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story.
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Caller/Listener
I'm telling you, we know Quincy killed her.
- [95:06]
Podcast Narrator
We know a story that law enforcement used to convict six people and that got the citizen investigator on national tv.
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Caller/Listener
Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky housewife helped give justice to Jessica Curran.
- [95:22]
Podcast Narrator
My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist producer, and I would wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find.
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Charlamagne Tha God
I did not know her and I did not kill her or rape or burn or any of that other stuff.
- [95:36]
DJ Envy
That y' all said.
- [95:37]
Charlamagne Tha God
They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her.
- [95:41]
Nyla Simone
They made me say that I poured.
- [95:42]
Charlamagne Tha God
Gas on her.
- [95:45]
Podcast Narrator
From Lava for good. This is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame.
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DJ Envy
America, y' all better wake the hell up. Bad things happens to good people and small towns.
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Podcast Narrator
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Dr. Joel Tudman
And he would just text back the arm emoji, the muscle. Hop in.
- [96:32]
Charlamagne Tha God
Because.
- [96:33]
Dr. Joel Tudman
Because he was not. And I understood as we begin, because it's difficult. Sure, men and. And study shows this. Men have. Have a difficult time making friends after 35. And this is the real reason why a lot of men are suffering in silence and suffering in their mental health because of the lack of community and the lack of friendships.
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Charlamagne Tha God
They're.
- [96:54]
Dr. Joel Tudman
They're not like women. They don't engage. And most men don't build friendships beyond their workplace. And our friendship started from a challenge of who can lose the most weight and get down to, you know, get down to the lowest body fat. And that built the. The friendship that people see that we have today. And the love that I have for this brother, and I saw it in him. Like I said, bro, you're one of.
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DJ Envy
The best to me.
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Dr. Joel Tudman
And I think when you are building friendships, you want to have friendships where somebody can see more in you than you see in yourself in that current space.
- [97:29]
Charlamagne Tha God
Why were you so guarded, Dr. Tubman?
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Dr. Joel Tudman
Yeah, please tell me, Tell the world how it. Tell the world how he would leave me on red. And it didn't bother me because. And I want to add this. When you have dealt with your rejection or abandonment issues, how a person responds doesn't trigger you.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
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Dr. Joel Tudman
Because I didn't know what his experience was, but I knew I wanted to keep showing up for him.
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DJ Envy
Friendship is important to me. It's very essential. And I'm too old to start over. In certain places, I have fresh room, fresh wounds. As it pertains to male. To male friendships, brothers, real strong relationships. And I had just gotten to the point to where I was okay without the relationship. And so when this good brother reached out to me, he was very persistent. I didn't understand him. I didn't understand his process, his makeup. He's a therapist, so his mental is really, really strong. Mine's strong, but it's more defensive versus, you know, just being vulnerable. So I had a difficult time trying to be vulnerable. And so he kept pressing and kept pressing and kept pressing. I wasn't really interested in that. I was okay. I wasn't. I was okay with working out. As we continued to train, we started having therapeutic conversations about what's going on in your mind, how. Why are you having a hard time dealing with abandonment, rejection, what actually happened. And then as far as my career speaking, he said, hey, man, I want you to come on a tour with me. I went on the tour, but I still wasn't going to get close to all the rest of the guys. I had broken, broken through with him just a little bit. So we go on the tour, we do our thing, and I sit in the back, not talking because I don't want to be involved emotionally again that way. However we broke through, he's become my best friend over five years now. I have a much softer side. I was too hard. Yeah, but. And I think God did an amazing thing by bringing him into my life recently.
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Lauren LaRosa
Everything that happened with you in Faith City City. So you were there, and then they sent out a letter saying no, that you will no longer be senior pastor. That was very public, especially because, you know, the church, they want to know what happened. No one knows why that happened. So two questions. I don't know if you can share what actually happened. And the second question you spoke about it, how was processing that publicly, what happened?
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DJ Envy
We disagreed. We disagreed in mission. And the disagreement didn't allow us to go forward. Forward. So that relationship was severed. Processing it has been difficult because it's public and it hurt. I love those people. I love him. Trying to move forward is something you have to do to live. I don't care what the career is. And if you stay in a fracture, you're going to break, you're going to crumble. So trying to move forward with a Cast when everyone is already determined, predetermined what you've done and have absolutely no.
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Dr. Joel Tudman
Idea and no information.
- [100:34]
DJ Envy
No information. It's difficult. So trying to talk to your children, pick your children up and move anywhere, no matter what the career is to get them to trust you as a father. Hey, I made the right decision to pick us up and move us across the world.
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Dr. Joel Tudman
World.
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DJ Envy
And then have to turn to figure out how we're going to make it. The pressure of this was what it was. Now I got to figure out how to make it what it is. It's difficult as a husband, as a provider now, do I trust in God 100%. I trust in all the skills that God has given me. And he's opened up doors that are just unbelievable for me, me. So process processing. It has been. I'm not going to say difficult, but it's been uneasy. But through it all, I still thank God. That's not a. That's not a church answer. That's my faith. Because I know all things work together for the good.
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Charlamagne Tha God
I wish you was here this weekend because, you know, we got the mental.
- [101:36]
Allen Iverson
Wealth Expo this weekend got called.
- [101:38]
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah. My good sister Debbie Brown came up with this. She wanted to do this panel called Reclaiming Fitness, Faith Healing from Religious Trauma. And Pastor Carl lynch and Dr. Teddy Reeves are on it. And I think it was. Was it Lecray that was up here talking about church hurt? Yes, it was Lecrae. Right. It's just like, man, what do you do when. When your trauma comes from your sanctuary, when that hurt comes from that place, you go for salvation, man.
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Dr. Joel Tudman
I, I think one of the things that my father's passing, 35 years walking alongside, you know, him, him. You know, when you look at church, it's a hospital.
- [102:12]
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
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Dr. Joel Tudman
And it's a hospital that has a lot of sick people who don't take their meds. And when you have people who don't take their meds, you have people who don't understand how their behaviors don't understand how their reaction impacts those that are in the hospital as well. So it's almost like you in one room and you trying to get some rest because the doctor said you need to rest, rest. And you have somebody down here that is having a breakdown because they just heard a diagnosis that they, they can't change. And I think the unfortunate thing that has happened is that a lot of churches have not thought about mental health in the faith conversation. And I say, you can't talk faith. You can't talk God and Omit mental health. When God made us, he made mind, body, and spirit. Mental health. Health is your social. It's your emotional and physical makeup. It's how we do life. I call mental health life in motion. There is no way around it. And I think now you. You send a turn. Some pastors are, you know, bringing in mental health professionals. Some pastors are bringing in clinicians and different things like that. Because what I saw growing up is what you speak about. I saw people that were embarrassed. Like, I. I can see right now this young girl when we were growing up who got pregnant, and they bring her before church, and I'm like, all right, where's the guy? So you brought the girl before church and that she's pregnant, but where's the guy? Right. It takes two to tango.
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DJ Envy
Right?
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Dr. Joel Tudman
So now you have this young girl who grows up with this level of shame and this trauma because they brought her out before, and you have a lot of embarrassment. And so I. I feel that churches have focused on saving, Saving souls, but not restoring minds.
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DJ Envy
Wow.
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Dr. Joel Tudman
You have to restore a person's mind. It's great that we're going to get their spirit saved and you want people to, you know, go to heaven. But I think it's important that we begin helping people on how to not just come to the altar and throw their hands up and be, you know, delivered, but how to walk this thing out for their complete healing.
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DJ Envy
Complete.
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Dr. Joel Tudman
Because it's one thing especially like. Like, let's just take somebody who's dealt with molestation, abandonment, rejection, and it's caused these unhealthy things. Yeah. I pray for you, lay hands on you, put oil on you. You greases like, greasy like a piece of chicken. And you know what I'm saying? So. But it's like that now this person leave and there's no support.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
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Dr. Joel Tudman
And. And the reason church hurt hurts so bad because people have an expectation that I would be treated better in here than I am out there.
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Mimi Brown
Right.
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Dr. Joel Tudman
And I.
- [104:51]
Allen Iverson
And.
- [104:51]
Dr. Joel Tudman
And it's just unfortunate, you know, that we, you know, have so many people, particularly in the black culture.
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Mimi Brown
Yeah.
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Dr. Joel Tudman
And religious trauma is a real thing. It's called rts. Religious Traumatic Syndrome. It's a real diagnosis in the. In the dsm. And most of us are challenged with it because we thought we would see God in the very people who said, come as you are.
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Lauren LaRosa
Yeah.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
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DJ Envy
Let's make sure that we're clear. The church is full of trauma. It is not absent of trauma. The very church itself was founded on trauma. Okay. Jesus being beaten that's traumatic. Being betrayed prior to being beaten. It's traumatic. You die the most horrible death. Crown of thorns, nails in your hands, hands in your feet, pierced in the side, bloody and naked. Trauma. The whole thing is trauma. The 12 or the 11 that take off running to go back to doing what they were doing prior. When they see that he's dead, they're dealing with trauma. They're like, I'm going back fishing. Forget this. I. I can't do this. Jesus comes back. There's so much trouble with them. They don't believe it, even though Jesus told us them, I'm coming back.
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Dr. Joel Tudman
Trauma changed their brain.
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DJ Envy
See the trauma? It's all trauma. Well, Jesus comes back. Boom. He restores Peter. So there's. There's the restoration that the church should have. So he restores him. Hey, feed me. Do you love me? Yeah, feed my sheep. You love me? Feed my sheep. You love me? Feed my sheep. Boom. He restores him. He does his thing. Jesus gets ready to leave. He say, look, y' all go wait on the power. Wait on the power. And then they come out. So they get the power. They start evangelizing the Book of Acts. They're doing their thing. The church is built off of that. So it's got an answer, and it's got all these problems. So it's never going to be a place that you're going to go. And it's absent of trauma.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
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DJ Envy
Or it's absent of the things that you guys are talking about. I think the issue is trying to find the fine balance of this soul and spirit, body balance when it comes to how we're giving that information. You got some churches that believe that Sunday morning is pure word driven. I'm going to teach you. I'm going to disciple you spiritually. Then you have some other churches that are a little bit more free and say, hey, we're going to do mental health stuff and therapy and fitness training on Sunday. There are other people that don't like that. I didn't come to church for that. I came to church for Genesis. I ain't come to church for that. Okay. And then you have some churches that say, we're going to put together small groups where you can come get this mental health. Then you got other churches that say, look, we. We've hired 10 therapists that are here. I think we have to go back to what I said earlier. You got to own your thing. Something may have happened at the church. Okay? It's no different than it happening right here in this company. But you still got to own your thing. If this station, a problem happens here, but you all still offer therapy, it's still up to me as an employee to go down to HR and say, listen, I need therapy.
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Charlamagne Tha God
This is a powerful conversation to have on World Mental Health Day, man.
- [108:04]
DJ Envy
Yeah, man.
- [108:04]
Dr. Joel Tudman
And always, brother. You know I love, love you, man. To the moon and back, man. And always, man. We've been rocking for the past six or five years, what you've been doing.
- [108:14]
Charlamagne Tha God
You can see Dr. J. He'll be at the Mental Wealth Expo tomorrow in Newark, New Jersey, at the Joel and Diane Bloom Wellness and event center. It's Dr. J. Barnett, Dr. Joel Tubman. Thank you, brothers, man.
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DJ Envy
Thank you, sir.
- [108:25]
Allen Iverson
Appreciate you.
- [108:25]
Charlamagne Tha God
It's the Breakfast Club.
- [108:27]
DJ Envy
The Breakfast Club.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Yes. The world's most dangerous morning show. The Breakfast Club. Charlemagne. The God, Jess. Hilarious. DJ Envy. Envy is off today, but right now it's time for Past the Auxiliary. Yeah, dj. Come spin now. Come spin.
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Hey, girl.
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Nyla Simone
What's up, guys?
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Lauren LaRosa
Hey, Big Nyla.
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Nyla Simone
How are y'?
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DJ Envy
All?
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Charlamagne Tha God
Blessed, Black and Holly favorite. What you got for us this week, Nyla?
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Nyla Simone
Okay, I really picked, like, five songs, but I'm just gonna focus on three because Brandon said that these were the great ones.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Okay.
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Nyla Simone
Because y' all be saying that I'd be picking the wrong parts and stuff.
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Charlamagne Tha God
So you let. I got an. An African pick the songs.
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Why? You said it like that.
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African there, no beats and sounds.
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And also, the segment is better with just three songs. Do you play more of them?
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Nyla Simone
Okay, longer.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Longer. Longer parts of them.
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Nyla Simone
Well, I picked three, and the first one that I'm gonna start with is this new Reuben Vincent and Knife Wonder song called Dre and Sydney.
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Lauren LaRosa
Let me show you.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Okay. Brandon, I like this.
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Allen Iverson
I like that.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Here's the thing I like about Reuben Vincent. Number one, he's from the Carolinas.
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Yes.
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Number two, he's a young man who connected with a OG producer in 9th Wonder. And I think when you have the aesthetic that a Reuben Vincent has, you need a producer like a ninth Wonderful to bring the best out of him. So this project that he dropped is solely produced by 9th Wonder, right?
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Nyla Simone
Solely produced by 9th. And it's crazy. Like, on this record is Raheem Devon and this artist named Sweater. But they got Raphael Sadiq on the project.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Absol.
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Nyla Simone
Crazy. Jill Scott.
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Lauren LaRosa
Flip.
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Nyla Simone
I'm missing Mad names.
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Charlamagne Tha God
What's the name of it?
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Lauren LaRosa
It's called welcome Home.
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Charlamagne Tha God
It's out today?
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Nyla Simone
No, it's out next Friday.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Next Friday.
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And are you in the music video?
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Nyla Simone
I am. In the music video.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Girl sitting there looking good. Bobby, your head like that.
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Mimi Brown
Give it sitting there.
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DJ Envy
Thank you.
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Lauren LaRosa
It's a play on Brown Sugar.
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Nyla Simone
It's definitely a play on Brown Sugar.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, she look good, girl.
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DJ Envy
Thank you.
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Charlamagne Tha God
I know them girls was mad. Cause them girls be liking Ruben.
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Lauren LaRosa
The guys was mad. They love Nyla.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Guys like Ruben, too.
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I was gonna say, damn.
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Lauren LaRosa
Guys like Nyla's.
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Charlamagne Tha God
That's crazy.
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Nyla Simone
I don't know what's going on, but definitely check out the music video. It drops today. I am in it. And we recreated a few scenes from Brown Sugar.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Ruben got an old soul. When you name Ruben, you ain't got no choice but to have an old soul. It's like your name being Earth.
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Nyla Simone
Well, welcome Home. Drops October 24, so make sure you guys be on the lookout for that. But I' ma keep it in the Carolinas. Tia Corinne, who also had a show last night in New York, just dropped her debut album. Pretty big deal. So far off. First listen, I really like this record that she got on there with Flo Milli, and it's called Lotion.
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Charlamagne Tha God
I like that. I love that. And I love a Flo Milli. I know that wasn't her part, but I love Flo Milli. Everything about Flo Millie is flowy.
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I like the energy of it because it reminds me of the 80s.
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Nyla Simone
These all day.
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Charlamagne Tha God
You know what I mean? Like, jam on it. Jam on it. But I. I want. I don't know, I just feel like the words could have been a little clearer. Like maybe a different subject matter. Like, if it's gonna be called Lotion, that's a good message, cuz y' all be ashy, you know, I knew. But it's true, though.
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Lauren LaRosa
Like shea butter babies. You missed that way.
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Nyla Simone
Definitely a shea butter baby.
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Charlamagne Tha God
All right, the chat say you two and. Oh, Nyla, we on live. We live on Twitch.
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Dr. Joel Tudman
Okay.
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Charlamagne Tha God
I love it. Follow us. At Breakfast Club M, they say you two and.
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Nyla Simone
Okay, good. All right, this next one.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Don't blow it to Oli.
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Nyla Simone
I won't, I won't, I won't. All right, this next one is from an artist named Nico Brim. He's from New York. Yeah, man. Nico just dropped a new joint. This is his second release of the year. It's called Feel Us. And he's also going to be on tour with Jid on the God Does Like Ugly Tour. So you guys can definitely check him out.
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Charlamagne Tha God
I love this.
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I like Nico Brim. I be tripping when people say that. There's no lyricist Nowadays, these little young dudes be spitting. You just got to know who to listen to. In a way, it's more discovery. Right. I don't know what you would call that, but it's like you're discovering these people. I just don't know where you're discovering them, because, I mean, you know, we got all of the same outlets. I don't know if it's radio. I don't know if it's.
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Caller/Listener
Yeah.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Screaming. I don't. You know, I mean, I don't know if it's social media.
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Where do you be finding these in the pocket artists?
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Lauren LaRosa
These spitters, I feel like, don't help as much as it used to, but.
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Charlamagne Tha God
That'S what Nyla tapped into it. I think you're gonna find what you're looking for.
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Caller/Listener
Yeah.
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Charlamagne Tha God
So if you're looking for the lyricist, you'll find them because they there.
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Yeah. She always putting me on.
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Nyla Simone
And honestly, I find them through features, pictures. Like, oh, okay, if I like Jid, then J does a record with Marco, and then I hear Marco, he does a record. Like, I end up finding them like that.
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Charlamagne Tha God
When you hear somebody, you go explore their music.
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Yeah.
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Lauren LaRosa
Like, photo shoots, like, through their aesthetic. So, like, okay, somebody like Ling know the artist Ling. I didn't know she was an artist. I just like the way she looked and then I heard her music.
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Charlamagne Tha God
I know Ling. You put me on the link, too.
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Nyla Simone
I think we played her up here.
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Lauren LaRosa
Yeah. Tia as well. I didn't know she was an artist. I was like, oh, she fire like, I like her as Ling. I'll put you on her. You'll like her.
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Charlamagne Tha God
I will encourage all you artists that can spit though to get with the OG producers, get with the knife on, get with the Havocs, if you can get with the static selectors, get with people who got that sound and can bring the best out of your lyricism.
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Nyla Simone
I would definitely like to say watching 9th produce this project with Ruben definitely changed my perspective on music. Like, or just producing an album, period, because I didn't really realize all that goes into it. It's not just the beat in the rap. Like, you gotta really tie it all the way in together.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Get with the Pete Rocks. Get with them guys that really know how to bring the best out of lyrics.
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Nyla Simone
And, you know, give it another Nyla Simone, because she trying to be like them too. So if you trust me in my vision, you know, I would appreciate that.
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Mimi Brown
Absolutely.
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Nyla Simone
But if you guys like the songs, make sure you guys tune into the certified playlist. You can click the link in my bio at Nylasimone. That's N Y L A S Y M O N E E E. And also, if you guys do like the spitters, me, 9th wonder and static Selector and Rob Markman are actually having another rap night. It's called the Eco, short for ecosystem. Just bridging the gap between hip hop on November 4th at Static Spot Hidden Tiger on the east side.
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Charlamagne Tha God
So pull up on the U.S. okay, we got the People's Choice mix up next. And this is honestly why Nyla needed to do the mix on Friday, because NBA ain't even here. You know what I'm saying?
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He is in China DJing over there.
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Being that he not here, Nyla should have.
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Lauren LaRosa
I definitely should not hear should somebody do Dunkey today?
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Charlamagne Tha God
I like now.
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They could, but Nyla's already here giving us new music. So then let Nyla play.
- [114:20]
Nyla Simone
Then we could play the longer songs, have more songs. I only can just do these.
- [114:23]
Charlamagne Tha God
Look at Lawrence D's hating down a black woman.
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Mimi Brown
Thing.
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Lauren LaRosa
I am is a Nyla Simone standing. And people know. Okay, at this point, I be her booking agent. Sometimes people call me for Nyla. Don't do that. Been that way.
- [114:39]
Charlamagne Tha God
Your leather stink. It's the Breakfast Club. Yes. It's the world's most dangerous morning show. The Breakfast Club. Charlemagne. The God, Jess. Hilarious. DJ Envy. Envy was off today, but our day is almost over. Just for you at this weekend.
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No, Tell him where Envy is. Don't be no hater. Envy is DJing in China for the NBA.
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I don't know if you want people to know that he did.
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He do. Who the hell wouldn't want to know? Wouldn't want you to know. You in China DJing.
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Allen Iverson
I hope I don't play.
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Charlamagne Tha God
No. No crazy people over there.
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I don't be liking to tell nobody with nobody yet, because I don't like nobody to know where I'm at when I'm out of town.
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Say you know him.
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In China, to do nothing else, you never know.
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Well, yeah, right?
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Lauren LaRosa
You really don't want nobody know where you at? Where you like. You don't want nobody know nothing.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Yo, what y' all need to know anything for?
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Cause you know everybody else.
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Business, man. The less know, the better. That's the white man's law. Y' all ain't learn nothing from the white man.
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No, no. Shut up. Anyway, Syracuse, your girl will be there tonight. I got two shows at the Funny Bone Comedy Club, and then we got two shows tomorrow in Albany, New York. So upstate, I will get There I land in a few hours and I need to know where. Where I need to go to to eat. I. I know upstate New York. Y' all ain't got like. Y' all ain't known for nothing. Like, to eat really, really good. But where can I go to eat?
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Lauren LaRosa
Let me know.
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Charlamagne Tha God
It's gonna duplicate on the whole time. Y' all ain't got trash.
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Lauren LaRosa
Please check your food. Give you a little surprise.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Y' all ain't known for no food. Syracuse.
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No, I'm just saying, you know, how you know in Philly, they know for the cheese sticks, and in Baltimore, we know for cramps. I never heard of anything that Syracuse is known for or whatever. But get your tickets if you haven't yet. Albany is sold out tomorrow. I'm sorry. Still a few more tickets left for tonight. Justlariosofficial.com can't wait to get there.
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And Lauren, you got homecoming this weekend, right?
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Lauren LaRosa
Yes. We kicking off Delaware State University's alumni alumni Homecoming weekend today, Friday in Wilmington, Delaware, at the Queen Theater. Tickets are still available@iflevents.com I'm hosting the party. It's my party. We do it every year. Thousand of y' all or so more join us to have a good weekend.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Weekend.
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It's gonna be lit.
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Lauren LaRosa
It's our homecoming weekend. I'm excited.
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Charlamagne Tha God
That's right. Don't wear that stink leather you got on.
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Allen Iverson
Shut up.
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Lauren LaRosa
I let you rock. You done pulled your feet out in here. Your hairline trying to grow back is fighting for its life.
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Charlamagne Tha God
That's why you got that muscle.
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Lauren LaRosa
Ain't nothing.
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Charlamagne Tha God
That leather got caught in the rain and now I got a smell and you mad at us.
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Lauren LaRosa
I love making up these narratives that are not true.
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Charlamagne Tha God
I don't know.
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If you see Lauren with that leather on, make sure you salute her this weekend. Be like, oh, there go Lauren with that stink ass leather.
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I can't wait for her boyfriend to beat you out.
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Lauren LaRosa
Yeah.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Period.
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Lauren LaRosa
I wouldn't even let him do it. You too little.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Exactly.
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Well, first of all, I want to thank Dr. J. Barnett and Dr. Joel Tudman for pulling up. Dr. J. Barnett will be with me this weekend at the Mental Wealth Expo. Tomorrow is the Mental Wealth Expo at the Joel and Diane Bloom Wellness and Event center in Newark, New Jersey. It's from 11am to 4pm it is a complete, completely free event. You can come out there and hear more conversations like we had on the radio this morning with Dr. J. And Dr. Joelle. Debbie Brown will be there. Dr. Alfie Breland Noble will be there. Jason Wilson will be there. Deontay Wilder will be there. A whole host of people, man, Dr. Rita Walker. So pull up and we'll see you tomorrow from 11am to 4pm and also make sure you subscribe to Dr. J. Barnett's podcast, the Just Hill podcast on the Black Effect I Heart Radio Podcast network. And also go check out Dr. J. Jay Barnett on the Mental wealth episode of Kirk Franklin's digital series Den of Kings, airing now on Kirk Franklin's YouTube channel. Okay. And we gotta thank the good brother Allen Iverson, period, for pulling up this morning. I said earlier this week that there was two interviews that we did this week that I thought to me, in my personal opinion were top 10 alltime Breakfast Club interviews. My personal favorites one was Little John and Today with Alan Iverson, man. So yeah, go check that out online. Online. It's like an hour and some change.
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Yeah. Very great conversation.
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Very great conversation.
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Lauren LaRosa
Surreal moments like, wow, this is John. This is really AI.
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Charlamagne Tha God
That's right.
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And you still look good. I was like, oh my God. Age aware.
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Lauren LaRosa
Oh, AI, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Charlamagne Tha God
So go pick up. Alan's new book, Misunderstood A Memoir is out right now and today is World Mental Health Day. So the positive note is simply this. Remember, mental health is not a destination, but a process. Okay? It's about how you drive, not where you're going. Have a great day.
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I know that's right.
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Breakfast Club.
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Allen Iverson
You don't finish or y' all done?
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Podcast Narrator
The murder of an 18 year old girl in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved for years until a local housewife, a journalist and a handful of girls came forward with a story.
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DJ Envy
America, y' all better wake the hell up.
- [119:16]
Charlamagne Tha God
Bad things happens to good people in small towns.
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Podcast Narrator
Listen to Graves county on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season ad free. Subscribe to Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcasts.
- [119:40]
Charlamagne Tha God
Short on time, but big on true crime. On a recent episode of the podcast.
- [119:45]
Podcast Narrator
Hunting for Answers, I highlighted the story of 19 year old Lachey Dungey.
- [119:50]
Charlamagne Tha God
But she never knocked on that door. She never made it inside.
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Podcast Narrator
And that text message would be the.
- [119:58]
Charlamagne Tha God
Last time anyone would ever hear from her. Listen to Hunting for Answers from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio.
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Podcast Narrator
App, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [120:10]
Caller/Listener
Welcome to In Case youe Missed it.
- [120:12]
Charlamagne Tha God
With Christina Williams, the podcast that's your go to source for women's hoops. From buzzer beaters to breaking news, I bring you the highlights, analysis and expert insights. You need to stay ahead of the game. The people have spoken and it's time to give the stories that matter most the spotlight.
- [120:30]
Mimi Brown
Listen to In Case youe Missed it.
- [120:31]
Charlamagne Tha God
On the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. And remember, in case you missed it, don't worry, I've got you covered.
- [120:41]
Podcast Narrator
Do you want to hear the secrets of psychopaths, murderers, sex offenders? In this episode, I offer tips from them.
- [120:48]
Lauren LaRosa
I'm Dr. Leslie, forensic psychologist.
- [120:50]
Charlamagne Tha God
This is a podcast where I cut.
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Podcast Narrator
Through the noise with real talk.
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Caller/Listener
When you were described to me as.
- [120:54]
Charlamagne Tha God
A forensic psychologist, I was like snooze.
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We ended up talking about for hours.
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Caller/Listener
And I was like, this girl is my best friend.
- [121:00]
Podcast Narrator
Let's talk about safety and strategies to protect yourself and your loved ones. Listen to Intentionally disturbing on the iHeartRadio.
- [121:07]
Lauren LaRosa
App, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an iHeart podcast.