FULL SHOW: Laila Ali Talks Potential Fight with Claressa Shields, Gucci Mane Opens Up About Mental Health + Josh Shapiro & Ty Dolla $ign Interview

Summary

The Breakfast Club – Episode Summary

Date: October 17, 2025
Hosts: DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God
Guests: Governor Josh Shapiro, Gucci Mane, Ty Dolla $ign, Danny Garcia

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Overview

This dynamic episode of The Breakfast Club delivers a mix of candid interviews, trending news, and cultural conversations. The main themes are personal evolution, mental health, political transparency, and the sometimes messy realities behind major public stories, featuring in-depth interviews with boxer Danny Garcia (discussing retirement and vulnerability), Laila Ali’s ongoing public tension with Claressa Shields, Governor Josh Shapiro on political violence, public service, and authenticity in leadership, as well as open discussions with Gucci Mane on mental health and Ty Dolla $ign on business and artistry.

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Key Topics & Segment Breakdowns

1. Mental Health in Hip Hop: Gucci Mane’s Openness

Timestamps: 03:25 – 05:18, 75:00 – 81:46

• Discussion: The hosts reflect on Gucci Mane’s new memoir, Episodes: The Diary of a Recovering Madman, lauding his transparency about mental health and drug addiction.

• Key Insight: Many artists silently battle issues like bipolar disorder and psychosis, often masked by self-medication and public bravado.

• Memorable Moment:

  “Gucci's been diagnosed with bipolar and schizophrenia...But we just sit back and watch all the headlines and even though we know something wrong, everybody just thinks everything is cool, copacetic.” — DJ Envy (04:00)

• Gucci’s Quote:

  “When I was having an episode, like, man, it's so bad, Black. It's so embarrassing ... I say stuff that when it's over with, I'm so embarrassed that I said that. It ain't a good thing.” (75:38)

• Discussion on Accountability:

  “The only person you can rely on is yourself.” — Gucci Mane (78:11, quoting his book)

• Comparisons with Kanye: The hosts debate compassion for public figures struggling with mental health, contrasting Gucci’s choice to seek help with Kanye West’s public episodes.

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2. Laila Ali & Claressa Shields: Public & Personal

Timestamps: 21:32 – 29:33, 85:50 – 86:49

• Context: Laila Ali breaks her silence, responding to Claressa Shields' challenges. The rivalry, partially ignited on The Breakfast Club, is dissected.
• Laila’s Side: Laila claims she was initially supportive, even providing Shields with key branding advice. Now, she feels Shields is using drama for "clout."
• Memorable Moment:

  “Layla is basically saying that Clarissa's doing all of this because it's clout and she's jealous of her.” — Lauren LaRosa (26:26)

• Host Perspective:

  "All I'm seeing is a lead up to a fight. That's what I'm seeing." — DJ Envy (25:37)
  "They're building up hype for a fight. ... I just hope Layla Ali, if they do fight, that she's back in the gym and she's sparring …" — Charlamagne (28:14)

• Listener Call: Debate on whether Laila will actually fight or will simply use the rivalry for publicity. (86:40)

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3. Political Accountability and Leadership: Gov. Josh Shapiro Interview

Timestamps: 43:09 – 74:33 (Interview);
Highlights from News Segments: 06:47 – 11:26, 30:11 – 42:36

• Personal Safety & Public Service: Shapiro details surviving a targeted arson attack, the security changes since, and the emotional toll on his family.

• Quote:

  “It's been hard dealing with this as a governor ... but the hardest part is knowing that the job I love, serving Pennsylvania, put my family's lives at risk.” — Gov. Shapiro (44:11)

• Political Transparency:

  • Shapiro critiques both parties, calling for authenticity over party loyalty.
  • Stands on truth-telling—even when it means confronting party leaders (Biden/Harris).
  • On whether ambition is a fault in politics:

    “I don't believe that you get ahead in life by throwing people under the bus. ... I think you got to show a vision... that's how you can be successful” (58:40)

• Pardons & Redemption: Speaks with pride about pardoning Wallow and others—emphasizing redemption when people transform their lives and help others.

  "That is an enormous power that a governor has, to be able to sign your name and wipe away someone's bad deeds and give them an opportunity in life again. I take that power really, really seriously.” (70:27)

• On Political Violence & Family: Open about his family's difficult conversations and the risk of sacrificing too much for public service.

  ”I'm unwilling to be paralyzed by fear. I'm not going to be deterred in doing this work." (47:24)

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4. Ty Dolla $ign: Artistry, Business, and the Album "Tycoon"

Timestamps: 90:39 – 110:29

• Defining Sound & Purpose: Ty speaks on stepping into “greatness,” what “Tycoon” means, and early realization that music—not regular jobs—was his destiny.
• Business Moves: Proud of signing and developing Leon Thomas, discusses artist development, and what he looks for in signees.
• Quote:

  "I'm about to drop a documentary. Champagne owner now. ... My daughter's 20 at Pepperdine, getting her masters—real fruits." (93:11)

• On Drugs, Art, and Tragedy: Shares a raw story about the emotional dangers of psychedelics amid personal loss.

  “While I'm on mushrooms ... they said he passed away. ... Made me never want to ... with that ever again.” (106:22)

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5. Sports & Culture: Danny Garcia on Retirement & Vulnerability

Timestamps: 115:40 – 125:10

• Retirement Reflections: Garcia is candid about why he’s likely retiring—diminished passion, the toll of sacrifice, and missing his kids’ childhood.
• Mental Health: Open about anxiety, depression, and needing to “live in the moment.” Notes that “real” fighters also have to be savvy self-promoters.

  “Most of the stuff you worried about is like stuff that never happens. ... Thinking I'm focused, but really psyching myself out.” (123:00)

• Legacy: Wishes he could have fought Floyd and Pacquiao, but takes pride in facing all the top contenders of his era.

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6. Additional Topics & Notable Segments

• Front Page News: Federal indictment of John Bolton, ongoing government shutdowns and their consequences, Amazon lawsuit over Prime Day “fake sales,” and airlines charging for reclining seats.

  • “Airplane tickets are already expensive enough, Mimi. We can't pay for no reclining seats, that's crazy.” — DJ Envy (40:41)

• Listener Engagement:

  • Callers share shout-outs, vent frustrations, and participate in the weekly “Donkey of the Day/People’s Donkey” (heehaw awards for bad behavior).
  • Memorable Call:

    “I want to give the biggest hee haw to this Breakfast club this morning...You yourself need to do the same. Be on repeat with your message. ...We in a fight for our democracy, so you need to pick a side and stick with it.” — Caller Charmaine (87:00–89:16)

• Music Recommendations: Nyla Simone highlights new Big L/Nas, Molly & Tyler, and Jordan Ward/Sailor. Debate over new releases stirs playful disagreement.

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Notable Quotes

• Gucci Mane on Recovery:

  "Sometimes when you need help, the only person you can rely on is yourself." (78:11)

• Gov. Shapiro on Public Life:

  "You can't live in fear. ... I'm unwilling to be paralyzed by fear. ... I'm not going to let this keep me from serving." (47:24)

• Ty Dolla $ign on Artist Development:

  "Now when I get my team, it's like, you do your part, and we can all win together." (108:21)

• Danny Garcia on Sacrifice:

  "It's a sacrifice. You know, in life, you can't have it all...Every time you gotta sacrifice something to be successful." (118:17)

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Episode Timestamps – Major Segments

• 03:25 – 05:18: Gucci Mane’s mental health discussion
• 21:32 – 29:33: Laila Ali & Claressa Shields drama
• 43:09 – 74:33: In-depth Interview with Governor Josh Shapiro
• 75:00 – 81:46: Extended discussion on Gucci Mane, Kanye, mental health in music
• 90:39 – 110:29: Ty Dolla $ign interview (album, artist development, artistry)
• 115:40 – 125:10: Danny Garcia on retirement, legacy, and family

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Tone and Style

Conversational, candid, and sometimes irreverent—hosts blend hard-hitting questions with personal stories and on-air banter. The episode is rich with authenticity, vulnerability, and playful teasing, especially on music and culture, while remaining sharp and insightful with political guests.

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Conclusion

This episode showcases why The Breakfast Club remains influential: moving seamlessly from politics to pop culture; honest, funny, and sometimes raw; giving listeners both insight and entertainment—plus moments of real vulnerability from major figures in music, sports, and government.

Transcript

[Lauren LaRosa]

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[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Governor Josh Shapiro]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Governor Josh Shapiro]

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[DJ Envy]

Bought a ticket to help him escape.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

So we're sitting like, oh God, what do we do?

[Ty Dollar $ign]

What do we do?

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

That was dumb. People, do not follow my example.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Mimi Brown]

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[Lauren LaRosa]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Mimi Brown]

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[Governor Josh Shapiro]

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[Mimi Brown]

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[DJ Envy]

Good morning usa.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yo, yo, yo yo, yo, yo, yo.

[DJ Envy]

Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Jess should be here in a second. Charlemagne the guy.

[DJ Envy]

Peace to the planet. It's Friday. Good morning. How y' all feel out there? I feel blessed. Black and highly favored. Happy to be here another day to serve our beautiful listeners. Good morning.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Yes.

[DJ Envy]

You said just gonna be here in a second. No, she.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, not even. She gonna be Zoom.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, she'll be on Zoom.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

Yeah, yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Broadcasting remotely this morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[DJ Envy]

What's happening, man? Happy Friday.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What's up, man?

[DJ Envy]

How you feeling? I feel good. I was watching the NYC Mero debate last night.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was watching that.

[DJ Envy]

Also trying to read at the same time, Gucci man's book, Bro Episodes the Diary of a Recovering Madman. Man, man, man, man, man, man, man, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I got so many questions, so many stories.

[DJ Envy]

It is. But I mean, I just like the fact that he's being so open about his mental health issues, you know, his drug addiction, you know, because. And one thing I get from reading Gucci's book, there's a lot of artists going through exactly what he went through.

[Danny Garcia]

Absolutely.

[DJ Envy]

And we've watched a lot of it, but we just don't see the behind the scenes of it all. And we don't know if they were out there getting the help and trying to do the work on himself like Gucci was.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

But there's a lot of your favorite artists that are going through psychosis and manic episodes and probably battling drug use and probably been diagnosed with things. Cause Gucci's been been diagnosed with bipolar and schizophrenia. But, you know, we don't know. We just sit back and watch all the headlines and even though we know something wrong, everybody just thinks everything is cool, copacetic.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I think we get to a point where a lot of times a lot of artists use these drugs as a coping method, and we need to make sure that doesn't happen. Let me ask you a question.

[DJ Envy]

Yes, ma'.

[Caller/Listener]

Am.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, ma'.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Am.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This guy's crazy. You know, with all the stress and things that you ever did, you never use drug as a way to cope on things or anything like that?

[DJ Envy]

No, not prescription drugs. I've done plant based medicines before, though. Yeah. I mean, I do therapy and meditation and grounding and breathing exercises now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But. Well, before you got to that.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

Right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because you got to that recently, you know, because a lot of people use.

[DJ Envy]

Drugs to co. You know what, though? I'm lying. Maybe I was. Maybe. I mean, all those. When we was outside and all that heavy alcohol use and everything else. Maybe I probably was. Yeah, you're right. Yeah. I mean, I didn't look at it like that back then, but, yeah, I'm sure I was doing that as a way to escape, but. We used to be in here drunk, bro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I thank God all the time.

[DJ Envy]

We used to be here hiding.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What?

[Danny Garcia]

Hell.

[DJ Envy]

What are you talking about?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm just asking. I just. I thank God all the time. I'm like, damn, we used to.

[DJ Envy]

We used to be out all night, then come in here and do radio.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I don't even know how we did it.

[DJ Envy]

You know what I'm saying? And the bad part about it, a lot of it is recorded. Y' all just didn't know we was on drugs. Yeah. Jesus Christ.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, let's continue on, man.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

Right.

[DJ Envy]

All right, now I just say it's AI. That was not. Yeah, that was AI.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You see all the AI videos I be posting AI. I be fighting sharks, gorillas, all types of stuff.

[DJ Envy]

That was AI, you right? What's that new thing they got? Sorrow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Sorrow. Soro. Sorrow.

[Danny Garcia]

Yeah, sorrow.

[DJ Envy]

That's exactly what that was. It wasn't me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, well, let's get the show cracking. We got a packed show for you this morning. Governor Josh Shapiro will be joining us. Governor of Pennsylvania.

[DJ Envy]

Yes, he will be here. He's been there before a couple times.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

Yeah, that's right.

[DJ Envy]

I like Governor Josh Shapiro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, we'll be kicking it with him. Also, also from Philly, Danny Garcia. He has a boxing match this Saturday. So we're going to be kicking him with Danny Garcia.

[DJ Envy]

Not just any boxing match, he said. His last boxing match ever, he said he's retiring after this.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So he says.

[DJ Envy]

Do y' all believe him? No. I don't know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, I don't believe him. But we'll talk to Danny Garcia and R B singer Ty Dolla.

[Danny Garcia]

Sign.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He has a new album, Tycoon, out now. We're gonna kick it with Ty Dolla.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, I think Tycoon came out today.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Came out today.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Yeah.

[Danny Garcia]

Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, so we'll kick with that. Like I said, pack show this morning. So let's get the show cracking. We got front page news, a lot to discuss.

[DJ Envy]

Mimi Brown's up next.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right, so don't move. It's the Breakfast Club.

[Caller/Listener]

Good morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess. Hilarious Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page news. All right, now, if you follow Major League Baseball, the Blue Jays beat the Mariners, 82 2. The series is tied, 2 2, and the Dodges beat the Brewers 3 1. Now, tonight, the Blue Jays play the baroners in game five at 6pm all right. Also tonight, the brewers take on the dodges at 8:38. All right. What's up, Mimi?

[Mimi Brown]

Good morning, Envy J. Charlemagne. How y' all doing?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Excuse me.

[Mimi Brown]

Good morning. All right. Well, we start this morning with John Bolton, President Trump's former national security adviser, now facing federal charges. A grand jury in Maryland has indicted Bolton on 18 counts, eight for sharing national defense information and 10 for keeping it at home. Now, prosecutors say he passed along more than a thousand pages of sensitive materials to his wife and daughter, who didn't have clearance to see it. Now a news report. News of the indictment broke. Reporters pressed President Trump for a reaction, asking if he was aware of the charges against his former adviser. Let's listen to what he had to say. Was just indicted by a grand jury in Maryland. Do you have a reaction to that?

[DJ Envy]

I didn't know that.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

You told me for the first time. But I think he's, you know, bad person.

[DJ Envy]

I think he's a bad guy. Yeah, he's a bad guy. It's too bad.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But it's the way it goes against him.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

That's the way it goes, right? That's the way it goes.

[DJ Envy]

Will I.

[Caller/Listener]

What?

[Mimi Brown]

Have you reviewed the case against him?

[Ty Dollar $ign]

No, I haven't.

[DJ Envy]

I haven't, but I just think he's a bad person. What does he mean? He doesn't know that he's the reason Bolton got indicted? He's the one who called for it. Okay. Bolton wouldn't be getting indicted if Trump didn't tell him to do it.

[Mimi Brown]

Well, you know, yes, you're right. So Bolton, he is expected to turn himself in today at the federal courthouse in Greenbelt, Maryland. His case has been assigned to a judge who was appointed by President Obama. Investigators say Bolton also kept a printed diary pages. A printed diary of pages at home, and uses personal email to send classified details, something the FBI calls a clear violation of federal law. Now, Bolton, of course, is saying this is political. In a statement, he said that he is the latest target in what he calls Trump's effort to punish his critics. He also pointed out that his book in 2020, the Room where it happened, was reviewed and cleared by officials years ago and that no charges were filed up until now. Now, if convicted, Bolton could face up to 10 years in prison for each count. He is now the third Trump critic indicted in recent weeks, following former FBI Director James Comey and, And New York Attorney General Letitia James.

[DJ Envy]

And Trump needs to write a book on how to make people bend to his will. Okay, you can't tell me it's just because he's president, because plenty of people have been president, but I've never seen them will power like him. Folks just do whatever he tells them to do. There are no checks and balances. None.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

They scared, though.

[DJ Envy]

Of what, though? That's my point. Of what?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Getting locked up. Like, like these other three people getting charged.

[DJ Envy]

I've never seen anything like this in my life.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

And then even, even the free speech, like, you get people, shows that canceled and taken off networks and stuff, people definitely scared of him.

[DJ Envy]

Well, Jimmy, Jimmy Kimmel, that, that, that kind of backfired on him, on Trump. But I'm just saying, I've never seen anybody been to the will of a president the way that these folks do. It's unbelievable.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah, definitely a lot of that going on. And now we are in day 17 of a government shutdown, and there is still no deal in sight. Now, the Senate, they tried for the 10th time yesterday to pass a funding bill, but it failed again before lawmakers left for town. Left out of town for the weekend. That means the shutdown will roll into next week. Now, Republicans, they are shifting their strategy. GOP leaders are now considering a plan to pay federal workers who've missed checks since the shutdown began, something they refuse to do unless Democrats agree to reopen the government. The bill is sponsored by Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, but it needs 60 votes to advance. They're also looking at another bill from Alaska, Senator Dan Sullivan, that would guarantee pay for military members. But Democrats say they won't back any standalone bills unless there's funding for health care, housing, and other programs that Americans depend on. And now, as I mentioned, the shutdown is in its 17th day. It is now tied for the third longest shutdown in U.S. history. And as the standoff drags on, pressure is shifting from Capitol Hill to the kitchen table. I mean, most federal workers, they're still furloughed or working without paying Military. Military families, they got paid this time around, but their Next payday on October 31, that is still uncertain. And meanwhile, the Department of Agriculture, they are warning that snap benefits, food stamps, could run out by November. If this drags on, affecting more than 42 million Americans that depend on those.

[DJ Envy]

Benefits for groceries, that's when things gonna get real. When that snapping, that wick run out. And just let the record show the first longest government shutdown was Also, Donald Trump's first term, it was 35 days back in 2018.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

That's right.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Absolutely.

[Mimi Brown]

All right, y'. All. So coming up at 7, how much are you willing to pay for comfort? One airline is putting passengers to the test. We'll tell you what's changing and why it could really catch on.

[DJ Envy]

Spirit about to make y' all sleep on the floor.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Everybody else, get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, phone lines are wide open. Again, 800-585-1051. Get it off your chest. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Wake up. This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're mad or blessed, we want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Hello?

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

Who's this?

[Caller/Listener]

Oh, it's still. Oh, my God. DJ Envy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What's up? Who's this?

[Caller/Listener]

Oh, Lord. Good morning. This is Janice out of Syracuse, New York.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What's up, Janice? What's going on?

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Hey, Syracuse.

[DJ Envy]

Good morning, Charlemagne.

[Caller/Listener]

Good morning, Jess. Good morning, Lauren. How y' all doing? Good morning.

[DJ Envy]

Less black and highly favored. How you feeling?

[Caller/Listener]

Absolutely great. So listen real quick. I just wanted to give a shout out to my daughter and my nieces cheerleading team out of Syracuse, New York. It's Pop Warner's Kirk Park Coates, y'. All. We going to Jersey. We took first place at our locals two weeks ago.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Congratulations.

[DJ Envy]

Congratulations.

[Caller/Listener]

Thank you.

[DJ Envy]

That's competitive cheerleading, right?

[Caller/Listener]

Yes. I'm so nervous. I'm so sorry. Yes. My daughter's 11, and my niece is 10. They both cheer for the same team. So I just wanted to give them a shout out and tell them all how proud I am of all of them. And get ready for Jersey, ladies, because we coming up regionals. What's up?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What part of Jersey you know? Charlotte. Daughter's dance, too.

[Caller/Listener]

She going to Trenton.

[Danny Garcia]

Trenton.

[DJ Envy]

Okay. Well, good luck. Yeah. Salute to your daughter. Salute to all the cheer moms and cheer dads out there. My daughter does competitive cheerleading, too.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

She levels six, though.

[Caller/Listener]

I'm so happy to get through.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, good luck, Mama.

[Caller/Listener]

Thank you. Thank you, guys.

[DJ Envy]

Let me not insult her and say, I don't know what level she is, bro. She's a high level. I think it's. I don't freaking know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know the funny thing? I was walking, walking from the parking lot this morning. Construction worker stops me, goes, what's up, Envy? I seen you at the. At the dance spot, and now I see you here. I guess he's a dance dad like Me.

[Danny Garcia]

It's just so.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's so crazy how many dads and everything. They'd be so excited to see their daughters dance. So salute to all the construction workers out there.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Focus. Doing the dance moves and everything.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right.

[DJ Envy]

Hello?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who's this?

[Caller/Listener]

What's up, Breakfast Club?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What's up, Trav?

[DJ Envy]

How you doing, sis? How your surgery went? Yeah, it went well. Actually, it went really well. I mean, I've never been under anesthesia.

[Caller/Listener]

Before and I didn't realize it definitely knocked you out.

[DJ Envy]

I was talking to a lady, like.

[Caller/Listener]

I don't feel anything. And then, you know, I was waking up in a whole nother room with a cast on.

[DJ Envy]

Man, I love it. They gave you that stuff? They gave Michael Jackson.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

I don't know.

[Caller/Listener]

I'm still alive, so I don't think.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Travel.

[Caller/Listener]

Say it again.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How old are you?

[DJ Envy]

37.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, it's the stuff they. It's just. I forgot what it's called, but it's when they. When you get a colonoscopy or endoscopy, they give you this medicine and they say, hey, this what Michael Jackson was taking, and you'll be out in seconds.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

They don't supposed to say that. They don't say that. Doctors can't say that.

[DJ Envy]

That's what the doctor told me.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah, I would have been a little.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, I'm glad he didn't tell me that.

[Caller/Listener]

I'd have been scared.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Well, I mean, this said I'm still alive. They ain't giving me religion.

[DJ Envy]

But how deep did they go? Travel.

[Mimi Brown]

Whoa.

[Caller/Listener]

Well, here you go. Charlamagne. Listen, y' all doing this Breakfast Club documentary, right? And I just feel like y' all need to include some of the, you know, fans that help build the Breakfast Club.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Oh, snap. Like who?

[Caller/Listener]

Maybe, you know, I'm just saying, you.

[DJ Envy]

Know, there are some fans, you know.

[Caller/Listener]

You know. Jess, do you know who the very first guest co host was on the Breakfast Club?

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

No, who?

[Caller/Listener]

Me.

[DJ Envy]

I don't know if that's true.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I don't know if that's true either.

[Caller/Listener]

Sorry. You said that is true. Stop saying that.

[DJ Envy]

But my memory is getting worse and worse as I get older, so I have no idea. But I don't remember that being.

[Caller/Listener]

But, you know, I got received.

[DJ Envy]

I was the very first.

[Caller/Listener]

I paved the way for Lauren hs, so welcome.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

I know.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

That's right.

[DJ Envy]

He said he was the very first guest call.

[Caller/Listener]

I was the very first guest co host on the Pre Club. Me, Angela and DJ Envy. You wasn't there, Charlemagne?

[DJ Envy]

I don't know what you're talking about.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I don't remember.

[DJ Envy]

Maybe that's why I don't remember, cuz I wasn't here. I have no idea what. You wasn't there. All right, 2018. We wasn't looking for no guest co host, though.

[Caller/Listener]

I was the very first guest Code.

[DJ Envy]

Y'. All wasn't looking for one. I was just.

[Caller/Listener]

I just did it.

[DJ Envy]

Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Obviously he's still on the. He's still high from the show. Getting poked in the butt. Being poked.

[DJ Envy]

But yes, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, Trav. Love you, brother.

[DJ Envy]

Thank you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Have a great week.

[DJ Envy]

Appreciate you. That is a good idea, though. You might have. You might have listeners on the document.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Definitely. Yeah, definitely. Black Rob Mellow. His name is not Black Rob.

[DJ Envy]

It's OG Rob.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Oh, yeah. OG Rob for sure.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Get it off his wool. Yes.

[DJ Envy]

God bless the day.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And he's passed away. You didn't know. Look. Look at her. She had no idea. Rest in peace, Black Rob. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need the vent, hit us up now. It's the Breakfast Club.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

Good morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The Breakfast Club.

[DJ Envy]

I'm dialing. I'm. Dang.

[Danny Garcia]

What you doing, man?

[DJ Envy]

I'm dialing. I'm calling you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This is your time to get it off your chest, whether you're mad or blessed. 800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Hello?

[DJ Envy]

Who's this?

[Danny Garcia]

And they.

[Caller/Listener]

What's the word?

[DJ Envy]

It's mellow.

[Danny Garcia]

Mellow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What's up? It's your birthday, right?

[DJ Envy]

Mellow.

[Danny Garcia]

Oh, yeah.

[Caller/Listener]

You already know the vibes. Appreciate you, King.

[DJ Envy]

Happy born day. Mellow. Morning, LL she not in the room right now.

[Caller/Listener]

Oh, damn. All right, well, listen, man, I just want to, you know, I just want to spread positive vibes. On my birthday, you were. You know, I ain't spoke to y'.

[DJ Envy]

All in a minute, and I just.

[Caller/Listener]

Dropped a new single. You heard? It's me. I'm single.

[DJ Envy]

That's what it's called?

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Yes.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, you say you single?

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah, I just dropped a new single with me.

[DJ Envy]

Okay, well, congratulations.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, Melo, he the new single fact. Okay. Lauren just walked in. Shoot your shot.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Mellow on your birthday.

[Caller/Listener]

Hey, LL Cool, babe. I just want to let you know I'm the first one to give you that name. And I just dropped a new single. Give me a few months to heal, and I'm gonna spend your block.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Spend my block for what? You looking for a house?

[DJ Envy]

Looking for what? Look at he want to be calling.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

You about a house.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He not looking for a house. He want to holler. Oh, no.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I got real estate for.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, oh.

[Caller/Listener]

You said you wanted. You said I want a house.

[DJ Envy]

I'm looking for a home, man. Mellow. Lauren just walked in. Look like. Looking like Brandi and Monica merged in the one artist.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Now you see it.

[DJ Envy]

No.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Okay.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Cause you've been acting like that's your bad thing.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It's not. They're beautiful. Charlotte may just be. He don't know how to give a compliment.

[DJ Envy]

Beautiful. They just ain't beautiful. If you put both of them together.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And I cut my hair. And he wants to say he cut your hair. Yes. Yeah.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

What's your real hair.

[Caller/Listener]

For? No reason.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The bob wasn't your real hair.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Like, the bob was my so bad. So we started fresh.

[Danny Garcia]

Okay.

[Lauren LaRosa]

What you say, Melo?

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

I like it.

[Caller/Listener]

I said you miss with black to excellence. Don't let him play with you like that.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It's okay. It happens, you know? Little people be angry.

[DJ Envy]

Your hands ask you, though.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I just washed my hand.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I like the low cut. I like the low cut.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Thank you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let's give it 90s.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Imagine walking, killing them.

[Caller/Listener]

Make sure y' all get l on my first day.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

You word Hands. Ashy.

[DJ Envy]

Her hands is ashy, man. Happy born day.

[Caller/Listener]

Mellow.

[Danny Garcia]

Mellow.

[DJ Envy]

Hello. Who's this?

[Caller/Listener]

What's up, man? Super trucker.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Super trucker.

[Danny Garcia]

What's up, brother?

[DJ Envy]

Good morning, super trucker.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Good morning.

[Caller/Listener]

What's up, Charlemagne, My Carolina brethren. How you doing?

[DJ Envy]

I'm blessed, black, and highly favored. How are you? What part of Carolina is you from?

[Caller/Listener]

I'm from Jacksonville, North Carolina, on the coast.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, okay, okay. Salute to everybody in Jacksonville, North Carolina.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Get it off your chest, brother.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah, man. Nah, man. I just got a song out called Truck of Love. Need y' all to check it out. Also got one out with my man Steeler all the weekend. We just dropped a video for last week, man.

[DJ Envy]

It's called Truck of Love. You got some fly lot lot lizards in the video?

[Caller/Listener]

No, actually, I had no lizards in the video for that one, man. It's just me singing about the Chucky thing, man. You know what I'm saying? And my man True Taylor, we dropped the weekend, so, you know, we just come up with a little bit of music, man. Sing about what we love. Grown folks music, you know what I'm saying?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let's hear a little bit, brother.

[Caller/Listener]

Turn the stick weld around Time to burn some metal Carolina's first sign Got it out of the devil Crack off in The Tennessee need some attention Dot out on the pocket let him catch me sipping Know the suicide cause need to be there in the morning 12 hours away and I'm already on it. I'm already in the road with that black bone rolling It'll be there by sunrise. That's what I told them. If you love it, best believe it came on 18 wheels if you got it. There's somebody out here doing that deal. And we gonna get into it no matter how far we are. Specialist masters of lodge God dropping the clues.

[DJ Envy]

Box of super trouble. I dig it. A little southern truck, a little southern soul, right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right. Tell them how they can find you, super truck.

[Caller/Listener]

Yes, sir, man. Make sure y' all check us out, man. I got to join with two tale of the weekend. So check us out. We're trying to run them numbers up, man.

[DJ Envy]

Man, salute to all the truckers out there, man. The truckers are the backbone of the economy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Thank you for calling.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

All right.

[DJ Envy]

They out here right now working them long hours delivering them goods to people to make sure our country is running from food to medicine, building materials, all types of stuff, man. So salute to all the truckers out there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. We got the latest with Lauren coming up.

[DJ Envy]

What are we talking about?

[Ty Dollar $ign]

We do.

[Lauren LaRosa]

We're gonna be talking about Layla Ali and Clarissa Shields because again, there has been a conversation started here at the Breakfast Club. Layla Lee has finally responded to Clarissa Shield.

[DJ Envy]

She look like the boy is yours this morning.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Oh, he is mine.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

You know what I'm saying? He is like, now I see the Monica.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I just said it to you other day. I said when I have certain hairstyles, people say I look like Monica. The rest of the time, people say I look like Brandy.

[DJ Envy]

You don't look like Monica. You still look like Jaja Banks. But I can see where you got the. I can see where you got. I can see where you. I can see the Brandy and Monica. Where you. Where it's trying to go. No.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right.

[Lauren LaRosa]

See brainy Monica fighting for. Fight for his life.

[DJ Envy]

You don't look like them.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I do.

[DJ Envy]

No, no.

[Lauren LaRosa]

They're beautiful.

[DJ Envy]

You got some symbolism.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Just say you like the cut.

[DJ Envy]

You got symbolisms that remind you of them. Like the ey.

[Lauren LaRosa]

One back and forth, one boxing match this morning. It's not us.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, we'll get to that next dope move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.

[DJ Envy]

Morning, everybody.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's DJ Envy. Jess. Hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club on this Friday.

[DJ Envy]

Yup.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And let's get to the latest with Lauren.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Lauren becoming a straight fan.

[DJ Envy]

She gets them from somebody that knows somebody. She gets the details.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything.

[DJ Envy]

She'd be having the latest on this. The Latest with Lauren LaRosa. Sometimes you have facts, sometimes you have details. Sometimes she have a little bit of everything. Well, it's the latest on the Breakfast Club. Talk to me.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Good morning, y'.

[Caller/Listener]

All.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Good morning.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

Hey.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So Laila Ali has finally decided to step in the ring, but it's on YouTube. So she is responding to Clarissa Shields and all of the whole, you know, Layla Ali is scared to fight me conversation that has been happening because of a lot of conversation that started here on the Breakfast Club. So Layla ali created a YouTube channel and an Instagram because she says she doesn't even want Clarissa on her Instagram. And she's doing multiple parts. She released part one on YouTube where she explains how their relationship started, how it ended, and addresses will she fight or not? Let's take a listen to Layla. Let's take a listen to Layla calling. Yes. No, I'm trying to look at my list, but the list is not in.

[DJ Envy]

This is why it's good to work with older people, because I'm just. You need somebody that can recognize the signs of a stroke.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Okay, shut up. Let's take a listen to Layla talking about promoters calling her and reaching out to actually get in a ring or to fight.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Come back to myself in 2020. I did get to a point where I was ready to get back in the ring and show her why, even though she is talented. I said it back then and I'm saying it now, but she can never outbox me. High level promoters did reach out to me directly and we had some serious conversations about me making a comeback. Now, of course, she was never even involved in any of those discussions.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Then Covid happened.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

You know how that was.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And it all went away and I left it alone.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes. So she also talks about the fact that.

[DJ Envy]

Did she say if they're gonna fight or not or she ain't get to that yet.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So in part one, she does. She says that she's going to answer the question that if she's going to take on the. The offer for that. What was it, 15 million, 50 million?

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's three parts. So she didn't say it in the first two. It's two parts. She didn't say it in the first.

[Lauren LaRosa]

She didn't say it in the first part. Basically this first part is her laying out where the issue started. And she says that she actually tried to help Clarissa a lot in the beginning and she talks about the fact that it started here in the Breakfast Club. Let's take a listen to LA on the Breakfast Club and the comments she had here.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Fast forward to 2018. I was promoting my cookbook, Food for Life, and went on the Breakfast Club, a national show with millions of listeners. I did a 36 minute interview and when the topic of boxing came up, I actually mentioned her and made positive comments. Then much later into the interview, I was asked about the possibility of a comeback.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Just, just, just for fun, they didn't hear it because we hit the dumb button.

[DJ Envy]

We had to hit the dumb button because there was a curse word in it because, you know, nobody listens to the audio here. I tell you, we got the WOR production team in the world, but boy, your voice sound different. Before you had that nose job.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I didn't know who that was.

[DJ Envy]

I didn't know who it was.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Face is a little bit more stuffier too.

[DJ Envy]

Well, you know, you had the nose job.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I did not have a nose.

[DJ Envy]

Cheek fillers.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I had, I had polyps in my nose and they, they had to take the polyps.

[DJ Envy]

Whatever, King, I ain't judging you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But, but for people that didn't hear it, I asked her would she get back in the ring for issues and giggles. Cause she said she retired.

[DJ Envy]

And she said, but they didn't edit the issues out. Cause we got the worst production team in the history of morning radio.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

Correct?

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Shut up, yo.

[DJ Envy]

No.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, well, she also too says. And this kind of broke my heart to hear. And, and I did reach out to Clarissa to see if she wanted to call in today to respond to it, but she went to X and all she said was, look, we fighters, let's fight.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

But what broke your heart?

[Lauren LaRosa]

It broke my heart because Layla Ali did a lot of like laying out the platform of. She actually was trying to help Clarissa. She said when Clarissa first started, they were, she was calling her like big sis. So like they had a relationship. She said that she was helping Clarissa understand how to like build your brand, you know, how to go between different weight classes.

[DJ Envy]

Why that break your heart?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Because it's like, you know, at some point Clarissa feels like she didn't have support no more.

[DJ Envy]

Lauren is so into this celebrity life, you know what I'm saying? You know what Layla doing? Layla's selling a fight. And I'm glad All I'm seeing is a lead up to a fight. That's what I'm seeing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It could be, boss. It could be the fact that, you know, people have been ishing on Layla, saying Layla hasn't been supportive, hasn't. Layla hasn't trailed that. She's a mean girl and she broke down and had receipts to. No, I broke down with her. I told her this. I'm the one that, that, you know, encouraged her to do this. I've always supported her. And she showed the receipts. I was the first one to interview her. I did all this. So she broke down everything she did.

[DJ Envy]

Building up for a fight. That's what I see.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

And even when she said, I saw something that she said yesterday when Clarissa met her, she told her that when you hear about the face of female boxing, it's Layla and she want that to be her.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, basically. Yep.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

That she, she's. Layla is basically saying that Clarissa's doing all of this because it's. It's clout and she's jealous of her. Now. There was. She did put together a lot of different receipts that she gathered. There was one part where Clarissa was recently on Jamal Hills podcast talking about what she teaches younger boxers. And. And Leila Ali is like, this is a perfect example of I helped her. Now she's using what I taught her and trying to make it seem like I never had a relationship with her. Let's take a listen to her, her own Jamel Hill.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Here she is on a recent podcast explaining how she's passing the torch and that she has created a blueprint for success which she is now sharing with other female fighters. She says that the number one thing they need to know is how to build their brand. It's a blueprint now on how you make a million dollars even if you.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Don'T have the gold medals.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

The biggest blueprint is build your brand. Oh, she must have forgot years ago.

[Lauren LaRosa]

She recorded this and said that I gave her the piece of advice that.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

She is now referring to as the most valuable piece of information that you need to be successful. But supposedly I didn't support her and I didn't want to pass the torch.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Eli Ali told me to build my brand, a good brand and a brand that I want to represent and stand for. And she said, have good people behind me.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

So I guess if I'm supposedly jealous of her, I must be hating on them too, right? Nope. I actually celebrate other women's success. She's the only one who decided to make herself my opposition.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm with Charlamagne, man, this. None of this matters for anything. And at the. At the end of part two, they don't say, and the fight is gonna happen this date, this time. And that's what it is.

[DJ Envy]

They're building up hype for a fight. Because I know Layla don't need to build up no goddamn YouTube page, okay? This is all for the hype of a fight, and I'm here for it.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It has to be, because it's a YouTube and an Instagram. I'm like, what is happening?

[DJ Envy]

I'm here for it, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I just hope Layla Ali, if they do fight, that she's back in the gym and she's sparring and she's. She's where she needs to be physically, because Clarissa Shields is gonna try to knock her head off.

[DJ Envy]

Hear what Jessica said? That's a yes. She probably been doing it and we don't know.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Cause she ain't posting it.

[DJ Envy]

Exactly.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what I said. I hope she is.

[DJ Envy]

She ain't just pop out with these YouTube videos for no reason. Layla know what she doing. And I'm probably. Clarissa probably in on it too.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Oh, when I hit.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

It.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

When.

[Lauren LaRosa]

When I hit Clarissa yesterday, she said she was in. She was at training. I mean, she's probably always just running training, but when she said that, I'm. What she training for? What's happening? What's coming up next?

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Yeah, yeah. On it, too.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Win Records.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Yeah, no, cuz, you know, Clarissa just did Gilly. She just sat down with Gilly and they was talking back and forth while it was talking and everything. And then we heard another laugh.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Oh, he right there. I thought they were cute in that interview.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

No, they always cute. It's just that they wasn't showing him at all during the whole thing. And then you see him like. Oh, damn, he right there whole time.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Well, listen, whatever these ladies are building up to, conversation started here. I think we should come here and have the conversation again. I think that would be. Yeah, that would be a fight seat for sure. So that is it for the first hour.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, well, that was the latest with Lauren. Now, when we. Oh, also today is Friday. Charlotte, what you doing?

[DJ Envy]

Oh, yes, on Fridays, we do the people's donkey. So you can call in 1-800-585-1051 and give somebody the credit they deserve for being stupid. You can give out the biggest he haw on Friday morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So call us right now, 800-585-1-051. Front page news is next. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne the guy we are the Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page news. Now, some quick baseball. The Blue Jays beat the Mariners 8 2. The Dodgers beat the Brewers 3 to 1. Tonight, the Blue Jays play at 608 and the brewers play the Dodgers at 8:38. What's up, Mimi?

[Mimi Brown]

Good morning, Envy. Josh, Charlemagne, how y' all doing?

[DJ Envy]

Peace, Mimi.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, and I forgot to say, I'm so sorry. The Steelers lost last night. The Bengals beat the Steelers 3331 in NFL Thursday Night Football. What's up Mimi?

[Danny Garcia]

All right.

[Mimi Brown]

Well, we start this hour in New York City where the first mayorial debate is still in the books and all three candidates, they came ready to make their case to voters. Democrats Zoran Mandani, independent Andrew Cuomo and Republican Curtis Sliwa face off for two hours. This was the first general election debate and it didn't take long for things to heat up. Now Mandani, the 33 year old Democratic socialist, is leading in the polls. He took most of the heat with his rivals questioning his experience and how he plans to pay for his big ideas on housing and affordability. Let's listen to that exchange.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Has never had a job. On his resume it says he interned for his mother. This is not a job for a first timer.

[DJ Envy]

Any day you could have a hurricane.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, it's Ed Helms. And welcome back to Snafu, my podcast about history's greatest screw ups. On our new season, we're bringing you a new Snafu every Every single episode.

[Mimi Brown]

32 lost nuclear weapons you're like, wait, stop.

[Lauren LaRosa]

What?

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Ernie Shackleton sounds like a solid 70s.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

Basketball player who still wore knee pads.

[DJ Envy]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's gonna be a whole lot of history, a whole lot of funny, and a whole lot of guests. The great Paul Scheer made me feel good.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

I'm like, oh wow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Angela and Jenna, I am so psyched you're here.

[Mimi Brown]

What was that like for you to soft launch into the show?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Sorry, Jenna, I'll be asking the questions today.

[Mimi Brown]

I forgot whose podcast we were doing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nick Kroll. I hope this story is good enough to get you to toss that sandwich.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

So let's, let's, let's see how it goes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Listen to season four of SNAFU with Ed Helms on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All I know is what I've been told and that to have truth is a whole lie.

[Mimi Brown]

For almost a decade, the murder of an 18 year old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved until a local homemaker, a journalist and a handful of girls came forward with a story.

[Caller/Listener]

I'm telling you, we know Quincy killed her.

[Mimi Brown]

We know a story that law enforcement used to convict six people and that got the citizen investigator on national tv.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky.

[Caller/Listener]

Housewife helped give justice to Jessica Curran.

[Mimi Brown]

My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist producer and I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find.

[DJ Envy]

I did not know her and I did not kill her or rape or burn or any of that other stuff.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

That y' all said. They literally made me say that I.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Took a match and struck and threw it on her.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

They made me say that I poured gas on her.

[Mimi Brown]

From Lava For Good. This is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame America.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

Y' all better wake the hell up. Bad things happens to good people and small towns.

[Mimi Brown]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

You have, God forbid, a 9 11, a health pandemic.

[DJ Envy]

If you don't know what you're doing.

[Mimi Brown]

Mr. Momdani would want to respond.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And if we have a health pandemic, then why would New Yorkers turn back to the governor who sent seniors to their death in nursing homes? That's the kind of experience that's on offer here today. What I don't have an experience, I make up for an integrity. And what you don't have an integrity, you could never make up for an experience.

[DJ Envy]

That was a bar.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

He was shooting.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He was shooting.

[DJ Envy]

That was a bar.

[Mimi Brown]

Absolutely. And you know, also the debate, it turned national with all three candidates asking how they would work with President Trump if they were elected mayor. Let's listen to some of that exchange.

[DJ Envy]

I'd like to work with you.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

I think we can do good things together.

[DJ Envy]

But number one, I will fight you every step of the way if you try to hurt New York, unless he.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Weaponizes the justice system to go after the attorney general of this state, in which case you'll issue a statement that doesn't even name the president.

[DJ Envy]

I would make it clear to the.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

President that I am willing to not.

[DJ Envy]

Only speak to him, but to work with him if it means delivering on.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Lowering the cost of living for New Yorkers.

[DJ Envy]

You can be tough, but you can't be tough if it's going to cost people desperately needed federal funds. Zoran Mandami. The president has already said it's going to take $7 billion out of the budget right from the start if you're elected mayor. What I would do is sit and negotiate.

[Mimi Brown]

Well, analysts say Cuomo showed command of the issues but spent much of his time on the defense. Mondami. He stood out with his stage presence and those sharp sound bites we just heard. Critics, though, say he's. He sidestepped questions about his past progressive positions and he even apologized again for past tweets. And Sliwa, he came out like a street level fighter. He kept swinging at both of them as he stood right in the middle. Now, the latest polls show that Mondami is still in the lead, and Cuomo is closing in. And Sliwa, he is still trailing behind. Now, the next and final debate will be set for next Wednesday, October 2022. That's just three days before early voting begins on October 25th, and that's less than two weeks before election day on November 4th.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah. I do believe Mumdani should explain how he plans to do a lot of the things that he says he's going to do, because his messaging of affordability is a great one. But oftentimes I don't hear the how. And I also agree with the fact I don't want to hear him keep apologizing for old tweets and old social media posts. That. That'd be the problem when you a little bit younger. Right. Because, you know, you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But they keep bringing it up. That's the reason why.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, but it's just like, yo, stay. Either stand on some of it instead of. Instead of trying to, you know, avoid it, or just.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He backpedaled a lot of that.

[DJ Envy]

Either didn't stand on it or apologize for it. It's just like, you know, so you don't believe none of this, and maybe you don't. I mean, you know, you post something when you're 20, 10 years later, you're like, damn, why did I post that?

[Danny Garcia]

Right?

[DJ Envy]

You know, it just sounds like. I don't want to say childish because it's the world we in, but it do sound childish to have to keep apologizing for old, old, old tweets. Because Cuomo ain't apologized for none of the charges he got. Nope. They bringing up Como criminal potential investigations and charges and killing old people. Yeah, he ain't apologizing none of it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He kept it moving.

[DJ Envy]

He was like, that's not true. That's not true. By the mom, Donnie. I just said the same thing. That's not true. That's a. I didn't post that. That was a fake tweet. Yeah.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

Right.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah. All right, well, let's talk about something we can all agree on, which is saving money, or at least we thought we were saving money until Amazon dropped this lawsuit. Until this Amazon lawsuit dropped. Well, now two shoppers, they are suing Amazon, claiming the company misled customers during its big Prime Dale Prime Day sale that featured fake prices that made discounts look better than they really were. Now, in this new class action lawsuit filed in Washington State, the plaintiffs say Amazon listed higher original prices to make Deals seem deeper than they really were. So, for an example, a pair of headphones was advertised as 44% off $180. But the suit claims that that same pair had actually been selling between $130 to $160 before the sale. Another deal, a kid's tablet, was listed at 40% off 120. But according to the lawsuit, that same tablet had been going for as little as $50 a month before. So shoppers say that Amazon is creating a false sense of urgency and it's pushing people to quick purchases, calling the discounts false and misleading. Now, Amazon has not commented on the sale, but they said that their July prime sale was its biggest sale ever, saying customers save billions of dollars. We know it just wrapped another prime sale last week. Now, what this means for you, that if this lawsuit goes through, it would mean that retailers have to be more transparent about how they advertise their deals, which will mean fewer fake discounts and more honest pricing.

[Danny Garcia]

So.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

I know.

[Mimi Brown]

I know that those. Those deals always get me. So, also, in switching gears just a little bit, let's talk about flying. Right, so first it was bag fees, then it was legroom fees, maybe even paying for your seat assignment. But what if reclining your seat came with a price tag, too? Are y' all still flying?

[DJ Envy]

That's ridiculous.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's crazy.

[DJ Envy]

Airplane tickets are already expensive enough, Mimi. We don't. Can't pay for no reclining seats. That's crazy.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah, well, one airline is testing out that very idea. So WestJet, the Canadian carrier that flies to 19 U.S. states, including Puerto Rico and Washington, D.C. they are rolling out planes where standard economy seats no longer recline. Now, if you want to lean back, you'll have to pay extra. The airline says it's reconfiguring 43 of its planes with what it calls a fixed recline in regular economy. Now, WestJet says the goal is to preserve personal space, so no more battles over the seat in front of you. Leaning back too far.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

But.

[Mimi Brown]

And if you do want to recline, you just have to upgrade to a premium or extended comfort seat, which, of course, is going to come with a higher price tag. But WestJet says this is all about keeping fares low. But critics say this is just another example of charging for what used to be standard.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, I've never been on West Jet in my life, and I'm pretty sure that I will never be on there ever now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I've been on West Jet before, because sometimes when you go to certain areas, they only have a WestJet, especially in Canada. But that's ridiculous. Like the fact that what happens if I go to buy a ticket and all the reclining seats are booked up, so I can't recline? I gotta sit straight up the whole flight?

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

That's. That's.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That doesn't make no sense.

[DJ Envy]

Salute to Delta, salute to JetBlue. Those are my go to's. I mean, I do a United and American is cool, too. Overseas Emirates. Okay. If you catch a Virgin Atlantic, that's great. WestJet, y' all kiss my ass. Okay. Charging for reclining. See how ridiculous that is?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's stupid.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, that's like charging for water.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You might not get water on that flight.

[DJ Envy]

You probably won't.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Yeah, but they. They'll see when they get less and less business.

[DJ Envy]

So what if a guy fly you out and he don't pay for your seat? You still give him some when you got. That's a charge now. You can't even do that no more.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

No. Yeah, I can't.

[Mimi Brown]

Well, yeah, y'.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All.

[Mimi Brown]

Okay, well, that is your front page news. I'm Mimi Brown. Follow me at Mimi Brown tv. For more stories, follow the Black Information Network, Download the free iHeartRadio app, or visit vine news.com.

[DJ Envy]

It says a lot about you, though, if you want to fly a girl out on WestJet and don't pay for their reclining seat. If that man don't play for your reclining seat, man, he don't really value your vagina. Ladies, I just want to put that out.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

I can't be flying you out anyway because that's traffic.

[DJ Envy]

That is traffic.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But not even that. Not even your vagina. Your neck. Because you got to have a stiff neck the whole time.

[DJ Envy]

You know what I'm saying? God dang. Imagine a man asking for oral. He done made your next stiff because he didn't. Wouldn't pay for your reclining seat. This is crazy. The world we in right now is crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, all right. Thank you, Mimi.

[DJ Envy]

Have a good weekend.

[Mimi Brown]

Thank you. Y', all, too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

When we come back, the Governor of Pennsylvania, Governor Josh Shapiro will be joining us. We'll talk to him next at Old Move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building.

[DJ Envy]

That's right. I call him Barack Obama. Baruch Obama, ladies and gentlemen. Giants helmet. Right in front of us, we have the Governor of Pennsylvania, Governor Josh.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

By the way, is that Saquon's old helmet because he's over on the birds now.

[Danny Garcia]

You know it is.

[DJ Envy]

It's signed by Saquon, too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So let me put it back.

[DJ Envy]

The fact that you recognize.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That'S crazy.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

Come on.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

Good morning.

[Danny Garcia]

How you feeling?

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

Hey, I'm feeling great. Thanks for having me back. It's good to be with you guys.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Good seeing you again.

[DJ Envy]

You asked me how my family was before the interview. I want to ask you how your family is now because I saw this week that Cody Ballmer, who was accused of an arson attack on your house, he pled guilty and was sentenced to 25 to 50 years. How does that make, you know, you and the family feel?

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

I'll be honest. It's been hard dealing with this as a governor, right. Knowing that you're a target. Knowing that in this world of politics we're in today, you got people who want to do you harm. And I'm sure we'll talk about political violence. We're seeing way too much of that across the country. But the hardest part of this whole thing for me has been knowing that the job I love, right, Being governor of Pennsylvania, serving the good people of Pennsylvania, put my family's lives at risk. I mean, this guy Charlmagne, he came in with Molotov cocktails, He firebombed our home.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How did he get so close? How did he get in?

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

I'll answer in a sec. But I just want to be clear. He was wielding a metal hammer that he said he was going to use to try to kill me.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, that's correct.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

And he not only pled guilty to arson, he pled guilty to attempted murder.

[DJ Envy]

Damn.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

And so I think the thing for me that I'm just being really honest that I'm working through is how to keep my family safe doing the job. I love that, by the way. I feel real purpose in serving people. And the notion that people now need to choose between their family's safety and well being and doing public service, that's a hard thing for me to work through just as a dad, you know, beyond. Beyond being a governor. But look, envy. I mean, to your point or to your question, Sorry. You know, there were tremendous failures from a security standpoint. Pennsylvania State Police, who I do have confidence in, have changed a whole bunch of procedures. The home, which really hadn't been. This was the governor's residence, really hadn't had any kind of overhaul from a security perspective for decades, has gone through that. I. I do feel safe there now. I do feel safe when I'm going around I worry about my family, obviously, all the time, but it was a failure and they learned from it. And I've got confidence that they're going to do better if, if, God forbid, something like that, you know, happens another time.

[DJ Envy]

Well, tell me how you have that kind of confidence. Yeah. Well, let's see.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How do you feel safe now?

[DJ Envy]

Because I, I. How do you know it wasn't an inside job? How do you know? You know, you don't, you don't know who.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

Pretty close.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It wasn't like it was. They threw it from the street.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Like they got doors in your house, but just wasn't successful to get through those doors. And you, it was 15 people in your house?

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

Yeah, there were about 20. We had me and my family. There's six of us. Yeah, our two dogs. And then we also had my brother, sister and their kids, so my nieces and nephews. Yeah, it was scary. I mean, you know, knowing that there's a fire and you got these brave firefighters rushing in to put out the firefight, put out the fire, pardon me, as they're ushering you out. I mean, it's scary. Look, there are some things that they have done. They're going to make what happened there impossible again. They built a wall around the residence. We really didn't have something like that. There's now a dedicated crew of state troopers to patrolling the grounds. We didn't have that before. There's all kinds of new technology. I'm not going to get into it here. That, that is, you know, going to make us safe. And they've taken steps at our home as well. Look, I think you gotta, in this job, you gotta have faith in the people around you to keep you safe. Otherwise you become paralyzed by fear. And I'm unwilling to be a victim the rest of my life. I'm unwilling to be paralyzed by fear. And I'm not gonna be deterred in doing this work. I'm not gonna be deterred in practicing my faith. I'm not gonna be deterred and being who I am, I'm not gonna be deterred and just being able to go outside and have a catch with my kids. You can't live in fear. And that is kind of how I've, I've worked through this and my family and I have worked through this so that we can, we can go forward and do this job we love and try and do it in a safe way.

[DJ Envy]

You don't believe that building a wall is a proper way to keep what you're saying?

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

Man, I've always been for securing our border. If that's where you're going. Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was asked, you know, so what startled him? That was my question. Because he was in the house, he had a hammer. What made him flee? What made him run?

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

I don't know if you saw the video, but he used this metal hammer to, to break a window to throw the Molotov cocktail, which ignited the explosion. Then he went to another window, used metal hammer to break a window so he could climb in. What's really scary, which I don't think folks understood when they looked at the video, is he then tried to kick down a set of doors that literally lead to our private living quarters. That's where we all were. So he was a door away while that was going on. You know, we've later learned this, the state police opted not to go after him, but to get us out and, and get us to safety, which was the right thing to do. And so we were able to be safe and secure while, you know, he was able to get away.

[DJ Envy]

And I saw you say that you, you had an enormous guilt about that based off what you just said, you know, earlier about being a public servant, being a governor, but you're still being, being a father. Is it worth it?

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

I think it is, Charlemagne. And, and I mean, it's a tough question you're asking me, right? Is it worth putting your kids lives at risk? Right. I mean, that's a hard thing to ask, to answer. I think. What I love public service. I'm not trying to sound corny, but like, I really feel like I get to make a difference every day. And I sure we'll talk about some issues. I think we are making a difference. And so I want to help other people. And obviously the most important thing is keep my family safe. I think if you can have confidence in the people who are keeping you safe, you can't walk away now with everything that's on the line, with, with all the challenges we face as a country, with my responsibility to frankly push back on what we're seeing in Washington, protect our freedoms in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. Now it's not the time to walk away. So I think we're in a good place from a safety perspective. I am mentally strong and prepared to continue on with this work knowing that my family is being cared for and protected. And this is not a time to quit. So, yeah, it's worth it. It's worth it to put yourself out there and try and do good for others.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I saw you say that the conversations with Your kids have been hard, right, because of all of this. Have your kids asked you to not do this job anymore after everything?

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

I want to be respectful to my kids privacy. But you know, I'll tell you what it was like in the days after and kind of where we are today. We're blessed with four kids. 23, 20, 16, 14. What was really interesting to Laurie and I, and 23 is a daughter, and then the rest are boys. They each ask different kinds of questions and they asked him in a different way. And, you know, sometimes they were concerned about my well being. Sometimes they were understandably concerned about their own well being. My 14 year old asked a lot of questions that were super factual. How did he get here? How did he do that? What was he doing? What does the video look like? You know, stuff like that. And I remember early on in this, I just answered everything I knew. I told him everything I knew with as much granularity as I had. And I remember my wife said to me, are we doing this? Like, is this what we're supposed to do? Are we supposed to like tell our kids this? And I was like, I think so. I mean, there's no playbook for this. And so we were just brutally honest with our kids about both the facts of what happened and then the emotional questions that they asked. And I think that helped them get through it too. My kids haven't asked me to quit. My kids haven't asked me, you know, the real question you asked me before. I think they want me to keep doing this work. I mean, I think like any job that a parent has, it pulls you away from a game or it pulls you away from something they want, like that annoys kids. Rightfully so. But overall, the idea that I would quit this job because I'm afraid, I think that would set the wrong example for my kids. I want my kids to grow up strong and confident. I want my kids to grow up in a world where they feel like they can do whatever they want to do and they can make a difference in the world. They're not going to be deterred by bullies. They're not going to be deterred by people who want to come after them. Instead, they're going to stand up to that. I want to show that example.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, that would be a tough conversation if your wife and kids came to you and was like, we love you, but we want you to step down. The safety of our family.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

Yeah.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

Whoa.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

And look, you know, when we talk about politics, every decision I made ever run for an office or decide not to run for an office or do something. It's always been kind of like, you know, 1% political and 99% personal and family. Because when you do these jobs, you got to be all in. You gotta be willing to, you know, miss the games and the routine stuff, which. Which you guys all, I'm sure, go through. Every parent goes through that. But you also have to be. You gotta have. Have your family all in to deal with the public pressures that come along with this. And my kids have been amazing. My wife has been unbelievable. I mean, we've. We've been together since the ninth grade. She's not that we knew this was going to be our lives back then, but she's just been with me through everything. And she's like the most amazing support system and just, you know, my best friend in the whole world.

[DJ Envy]

I would just tell them it's going to be way less security if I'm not governor no more.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

So.

[DJ Envy]

Now I was. I read Kamala Harris book 107 days, and I saw your comments on her book. And for those who don't know, the former VP wrote that Governor Shapiro seemed overly ambitious because you were, you know, up for the VP role. She said you seemed overly ambitious and you pushed for too large a role for a vice president and seemed unwilling to accept a number two position. How did you feel when you heard that?

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

I mean, like, I haven't read her book. I'm busy every day, frankly, dealing with the effects of the fact that we lost the 2024 election. Dealing with Donald Trump wanting to send troops into our street. Dealing with Donald Trump, by the way, just a week or two ago, demanding that I turn over the entire voter rolls, including Pennsylvania Social Security number, driver's license number, all this stuff. I don't know what the hell he wants that for, but I know it's not for any good purpose. And he sued me when I wouldn't turn it over. I'm dealing with the real effects of governing in a world, you know, after Donald Trump won the election. So. Haven't read the book, haven't really focused.

[DJ Envy]

On it, but even what's wrong with a vice president being overly ambitious if you're the number two to the number one?

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Shouldn't you be ready to be number one?

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

I guess that's a question for her. She clearly thought it.

[DJ Envy]

And you, You. You also criticized her, which I thought was fair, for not speaking out publicly earlier about concerns over President Biden's fitness to run in 2024. To me, that's not just a criticism for the VP. It's a criticism for the whole Democratic Party.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

You and I have talked about that issue.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

And look, I don't want to get into it with. With the former Vice president, but, I mean, if you're in the room, you're seeing things nobody else is seeing. You had a responsibility to speak up and she didn't.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Do you think.

[DJ Envy]

Hold on, one last thing about that. We can move on. But the book. The book also mentioned. Because you didn't read it, but it mentioned that some of your comments on pro Palestinian protests were flagged by her campaign. But that wasn't a deciding factor. Do you think?

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

Look, I. I wasn't in her head. I don't know what she was thinking. I'll just say to you, I think I said this to you before just to keep it real. I mean, when I was going through that process. First off, it's an honor to go through that process. I said throughout it that she had a deeply personal decision to make in the end. Charlemagne. So did I. And I love being governor of Pennsylvania and calling the shots.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Now it seems like you two don't rock with each other too much. Right? And from the comments that Charlamagne said in the book and things that you.

[DJ Envy]

Said about who, a couple hours? No, I don't get that.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

No. And by the way, she and I have known each other 20 years. I mean, we've. We've worked together for a long time.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It doesn't seem like it's a. It's a united front.

[Danny Garcia]

Right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But sometimes you look at Republicans per se, it seems like it's a more of a united front. It just seemed like that front wasn't.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

I don't think so. Envy. I worked my butt off to help her get elected. I mean, I did every. I traveled with Gretchen Whitmer and Tony Evers to all three swing states. Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan. I did dozens of events. Hell, I even cut an ad for. I don't think her campaign ever ran it, but cut an ad for her in Pennsylvania where, you know, I'm doing okay there. So I. Yeah, I. I got no ill will, and I don't think she does toward me.

[Lauren LaRosa]

What about. Because I know you had a conversation with Biden one on one, where you told him that you didn't think that he was, like, fit to run. Right. You had conversations with the VP leading up to her announcing and all the things. Did you ever say to her? You should say something now, like people are relying on you.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

Well, I never had a conversation with her. I went directly to the president and spoke to him about what I saw were, you know, his challenges in Pennsylvania. I was really honest with him. We got together at a coffee shop in Harrisburg. I think there's been reported. I mean, I'll just share with you. I was very. He said, how's it going? I was very clear it's not going well. The polls are showing it's not going well. I don't think you're handling the cost question back to what we talked about before with rising costs. It was a big theme in the campaign, big issue in Pennsylvania. I didn't think they were handling that well. I expressed that I thought people thought he wasn't up to the job. Not so much the job doing it at that moment, but the job doing it for another four years, which I think there's a real difference there. And I was very honest with him about that. Look, I'm. Maybe it's old school, but I believe that if you got something to say, you say it directly to that person's face. He's the President of the United States. I respected him, still respect him, and I respect him enough to say it directly to his face.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How was he received?

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

I think he heard it. He told me that their poll numbers were different, and he seemed committed to continuing forward. And listen, that's his call, of course. I mean, he was President of the United States. And so to me, I thought I had a responsibility as the governor from arguably the most important swing state in the entire country to be very honest about what I was seeing on the ground and to be very honest about the fact that I saw real challenges for him to get or for him to win Pennsylvania. And I was also really honest with him that I had shared a lot of this with his team, and I didn't think that they were being direct with him. And so I felt the need to take what is, you know, a fairly extraordinary step and go directly to the president and say this.

[DJ Envy]

You can't. You should. That stuff should be amplified. Like, I knew that story, right? But the reason I say that stuff should be amplified is because that's what's going to help you in the future if you do decide to run for president. Because I keep telling folks like, look, man, anybody that wants to lead this party in the future has to throw that old regime under the bus. And it has to be people that told that old regime the truth about where they were at. Wasn't a lot of y' all that did that.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

Can I disagree with you? Slightly on this. I don't believe that you get ahead in life by throwing people under the bus. I don't believe that I got to kick somebody in order to. To get ahead. I think you got to show your work. I think you got to show a vision. I think you got to tell people what you're all about, and that's how, you know you can be successful as a governor, as, you know, Senator, whatever it is that you do. I made my point clear to the president and the former president, and, you know, I'm glad I did that.

[DJ Envy]

Okay, how about being known as a truth teller in a party that lied to the whole country?

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

I think speaking truth is really important. Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

And I did that.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

I think people believing that, even if they disagree with you on an issue or they disagree with your viewpoint on something, at least they walk away knowing, hey, you know what? That guy was straight with me. I mean, hell, I think we started the conversation. I was at a farm in Lebanon County, Pennsylvania, yesterday. This is not an area the Democrats go to. And I was there talking for real about tariffs and other things. And I kind of made a joke. I said, look, I know where I am. I know I'm in Lebanon County. I know this isn't exactly, you know, an area where. Where I'm getting a majority of the vote or however I said it. But I wanted to be here today, and I wanted to be clear with you about what I think, how I feel, and how I see things. I think what the American people really want, certainly people of Pennsylvania want, again, swingiest state in the whole country. I think it's pretty good indicator of where others are. They just want you to be real. They want you to be authentic, and they don't need to agree with you on everything. Like, this isn't about everybody agreeing on a purity test. They want to know what's in your heart. They want to know what motivates you to serve, and they want to know what you really think.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Were you surprised when Trump won Pennsylvania?

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

No. I mean, I saw when Biden dropped out, he had been consistently down. And by the way, I shared this with the former president, he'd been consistently down 5, 6, 7 points when the vice president jumped in. You saw the numbers close, but they never. She never overtook him in any of the data that we saw. And look, I think beyond the data, I got a pretty good feel for my state.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Right.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

And in my state, you know, you get a sense of sort of where different areas are going and how they're moving. And she just Never was able to close that gap. Now, look, if she would have won Pennsylvania by 50,000 votes, would I been shocked? No. But you asked me was I, was I surprised or shocked that he won? No, because basically by the end, when we were in that final couple weeks, you know, she's kind of minus one, even minus two, something like that. I mean, it wasn't that she had overcome where. Where he was.

[Lauren LaRosa]

If she had separated herself more from Biden, do you think she could have won the state? What do you think was the reason why she didn't?

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

I don't know. I mean, look, what's the title of the book? 107 days. Yeah, I mean, she didn't. She didn't have a lot of time.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, right.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

In fairness to her, but it kind of goes back to what I was just saying a moment ago. People want to know who you are. They want genuineness, they want authenticity. They want to feel like they know who you are. And you know, clearly that, that, that was not accomplished.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Oh yeah. I just saw that they had made an arrest yesterday in the K to Scott, the missing girl in Philadelphia. If you're familiar with the story. I just wanted to know because there it seems like they're the police that are having issues with locate. I mean she's still missing, but they don't have anything that they're tracing. Like no cell phone, no anything. Do you guys bring in additional resources to help?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because I'm not so for.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So Kada Scott is a young woman. She's 23. She went. Young black woman went missing in Philadelphia for. From work. She was being harassed via phone by someone. Prior to that she told her parents. Now she's missing. She's been missing for some time. They just made an arrest in the case, a young man, but they, they haven't told us what the tie to him is in the case. But it seems like though they're having issues with finding like her footsteps leading up to that, like cell phone, anything or just whereabouts whatsoever.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

I don't want to get ahead of the police on, on this. It is an awful, awful case. And just my prayers go out to her family. I can tell you that the Pennsylvania State Police, which, you know, which I oversee through, through our state police commissioner. We work very closely with local authorities, including the Philadelphia police. And the Philadelphia police are outstanding in these cases and I've confidence that they'll get to the bottom of it. Our technology, our unique know how the tools we have to solve these kinds of cases are always brought to bear to work. With our municipal partners to make sure that we address crime in our communities. This is an awful case and hopefully they'll get to the bottom of it. I would also just caution you, I mean this respectfully to you and anyone in the media. There are lots of cases where we can't share all the information with the media as we're working them because sometimes you don't want to something to come out at first. Ultimately, you know, you provide that transparency when the case is sort of closed. But we're kind of still in the midst of this one right now, and so I think, you know, not everything.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, it's Ed Helms and welcome back to snafu, my podcast about history's greatest screw ups on our New season, we're bringing you a new snafu Every single episode.

[Mimi Brown]

32 lost nuclear weapons. You're like, wait, stop. What?

[DJ Envy]

Ernie Shackleton sounds like a solid 70s.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

Basketball player who still wore knee pads.

[DJ Envy]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's gonna be a whole lot of history, a whole lot of funny, and a whole lot of guests. The great Paul Scheer made me feel good.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

I'm like, oh, wow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Angela and Jenna, I am so psyched you're here.

[Mimi Brown]

What was that like for you to soft launch into the show?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Sorry, Jenna. I'll be asking the questions today.

[Mimi Brown]

I forgot whose podcast we were doing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nick Kroll. I hope this story is good enough to get you to toss that sandwich.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

So let's, let's, let's see how it goes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Listen to season four of SNAFU with Ed Helms on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All I know is what I've been told and that to have truth is a whole lie.

[Mimi Brown]

For almost a decade, the murder of an 18 year old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved until a local homemaker, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story.

[Caller/Listener]

I'm telling you, we know Quincy killed her.

[Mimi Brown]

We know a story that law enforcement used to convict six people and that got the citizen investigator on national tv.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky.

[Caller/Listener]

Housewife helped give justice to Jessica Curran.

[Mimi Brown]

My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist producer, and I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find.

[DJ Envy]

I did not know her and I did not kill her or rape or burn or any of that other stuff.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

That y' all said. They literally made me say that I.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Took a match and struck and threw it on her.

[Caller/Listener]

They made me say that I poured.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Gas on her.

[Mimi Brown]

From Lava for good. This is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

America, y' all better wake the hell up. Bad things happens to good people and small towns.

[Mimi Brown]

Listen to Graves county in the Bone Valley feed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season ad free, subscribe to Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcasts.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

But I got a lot of faith in the Philadelphia police. And I can tell you that the Pennsylvania State Police is always at the ready to support them and every other municipal department.

[DJ Envy]

I got one last question. You got a 62% approval rate, right? How do you measure success by polling numbers. Are lives changed?

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

Oh, lives changed. And. And look for as far as wonderful is to have a 62% approval rating in the toughest state in the country to run in. I still rely not on the data that you cite, but the feel I get from people, whether on their farms and, you know, downtown, in, you know, Pittsburgh, center city, Philly, walking down the street, having someone stop me and go, yo, Guv, and talk to me about something, that's where I get my feel from. And, you know, I measure it in terms of what people tell me they. They want done and going out and doing it, and the people's lives I touch along the way. I got. I got to tell you, I mean, for me, the motivation is not seeing a poll like that. It's when someone says, hey, Gov, five years ago, I reached out to you, and, you know, you were Attorney General back then, but you took on my case and you helped me get, you know, get back my money after someone tried to scam you. That's the stuff that fills up my cup. You know, kind of goes back to the first question or one of the first questions you asked. You know, why do you do this? And what happens if your kids told you not to do it? I'm one of these people that is motivated by helping others. And. And I do. I do get fulfillment from people telling me I made their lives better. And there's just an extraordinary feeling that you get from that. It's how I was raised. It's what my faith has taught me, and that is what motivates me, not numbers in a poll. I'm grateful for that support, but knowing I changed someone's life, knowing I made it better, and pursuing the next thing and the next thing, and the next thing that's going to help my communities out.

[DJ Envy]

A life that Governor Shapiro changed, that he doesn't talk about, is Wallow. Yeah, he's the one who pardoned Wallow. What made you want to pardon Wallow?

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

I think there are people out there who had one bad day, or, in Wallow's case, had a few bad days. Let's be real. And there are those that don't learn from that, and they end up living sad and tragic lives, oftentimes in jail or, you know, in places that are dangerous for them. And then there are other people, and Wallow's a great example of that. He happens to be famous, so you know about him. But there's a whole lot of people who aren't famous who do this, who learn from that bad day, who learn from those bad decisions, and they not only turn their lives around for themselves, but they then make a difference for others. And those are the people that. That I try to find. Those are the people whose cases I want to come across my desk so I can affix my signature to a pardon for them. That is an enormous power that a governor has, to be able to sign your name and wipe away someone's bad deeds and give them an opportunity in life again. And I will tell you, I take that power really, really seriously. Wallow earned that. He earned the right to have his case come across my desk, and he earned my signature because of the way in which he's lived his life and helped make other lives better. The way he's helped other people get back on the right track, the way he's helped other people achieve prosperity for them and their families. The. The way he's, I think, in many ways changed in industry, whether it's music or the kind of influencer industry or. Or what have you. I mean, he's done extraordinary things, and.

[Danny Garcia]

I'm proud of him.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

And I'll tell you what else I told him. I don't think he'd mind me sharing this. And I've said this to others who we've given second chances to, including those who I've granted clemency to, which means letting them out of jail even though they were facing a life sentence. I tell them, don't screw up, because you are now an example to others. I said that to Meek. I've said that to a number of folks. You now have an enormous power to do good in the world. You're also an example, and you've got an awesome amount of pressure and responsibility on you. And so live your life in a way where you acknowledge that pressure. You acknowledge that responsibility. And, man, Wallow's done that. And I'm really, really proud of him. And I try and check in on him every so often and check in on others who I've issued pardons to or clemencies to just to see how they're doing.

[DJ Envy]

You helped me, too. Yeah, but he didn't want to be on the helicopter. He didn't want to do no photo ops or anything.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

He's like, nope, no, because that's not what it's about. This isn't about me being able to stand next to Meek or Wallow and some press thing. This is about knowing that they did the hard work to get their lives back together. And I've got this unique power for this moment in time as governor where I can give them some extra help. But with that comes a responsibility. And they've got to own up to their end of the bargain. And they are.

[Lauren LaRosa]

The way you are is how the spirit of so many other people in government should be. Like just the spirit I get from you in this conversation. Like you.

[Danny Garcia]

Absolutely.

[Lauren LaRosa]

There's a genuine care for people to end up well.

[DJ Envy]

I agree.

[Danny Garcia]

Absolutely.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And that you don't feel that all the time.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hopefully.

[DJ Envy]

I hope we got free and fair elections in 2028.

[Danny Garcia]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

You can be in the mix.

[Lauren LaRosa]

They hope they get it right.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

We're gonna work to make sure we got free and fair elections.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Governor Josh Shapiro, thank you so much.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

Thanks, guys. Always great.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Bandwidth and we'll see.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

We're out. We're out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We'll see you in another week, though, too.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

I look forward to. Thanks.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Giants in Philly.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

Is that we're just going to leave it there. Listen, are you want to do this? We can do this. Okay. I think you guys are exciting. Jackson Dart is seemingly pretty good. Scatter Boo is pretty, pretty good. He lost. He lost. Neighbor. Malik Neighbors, unfortunately. But you cannot, over a long season hang with the Eagles. You just can't. You just can't.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I could pray.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

You would pray all you want, but you ain't going to be able to do it over a long season. But they are a team now, seemingly on the upswing, which I think is. Is a good thing. And look, the Birds have stumbled a little bit over the last couple weeks, but we'll get it back together.

[Danny Garcia]

That's all right.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

Well, championship team right there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's Governor Josh Shapiro. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Let's get to the latest with Lauren.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Lauren becoming a straight face.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She gets him from somebody that knows somebody.

[DJ Envy]

She gets the details.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about every family.

[DJ Envy]

And everybody be having the latest on.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

The Latest with Lauren LaRosa.

[DJ Envy]

Sometimes you have facts, sometimes you have details. Sometimes you have a little bit everything. Oh, it's the latest on the Breakfast Club. Talk to me.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So Gucci man is, you know, starting to have some conversation about a lot of the things that we've seen play out on Gucci Mane's life over the last few years and where he is today because he has a book coming called Episodes.

[DJ Envy]

Now, this book, the Diary of a Recovering Madman.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's out what, today? It's out today.

[Mimi Brown]

Out today.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Out today. Oh, yes. Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

10, 17 out now.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So now in this book, and when I say these couple things. There's been so many big moments. Even before the verses, there was, like, the Waffle House moment, like, all these things. And he's saying he discovered that, you know, his mental health played a major part in that. Let's take a listen to Gucci on mental episodes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

When he was on. When I was having an episode, like, man, it's like, it's so bad, Black. It's so embarrassing.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

It's.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's like. That's why I can see other artists, when they going through something, smiling. Because when I'm walking, like, I say the most cruel stuff. Like, I might talk about your kids. Like, I say stuff that when I. When it's over with, I'm so embarrassed that I said that. It ain't a good thing.

[DJ Envy]

You feel me?

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I might say I put your baby in the microwave, but in that moment, it's scary.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And then you be like, damn, I can't believe I said that out my mouth.

[DJ Envy]

You just tell everybody you sorry because you. In the world we living in, you kind of got to stand on it.

[Danny Garcia]

You kind of.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

Kind of.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But this thing is. I don't be wanting to stand on it.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because I really. I'm going through something. I'm not well, when I did that.

[DJ Envy]

So that be eating you up. Like, when you. When you.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

When you.

[DJ Envy]

When you snap out of your episodes or whatever, and you see it and you go to feeling. That's a whole nother thing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's a whole nother trauma.

[DJ Envy]

Salute to the Big Facts podcast, too, man.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Screaming what's happening?

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

That's a little crazy to say. You kind of gotta stand on it. You know what I mean? That's.

[Danny Garcia]

That's.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

No, that's. That's not. That's what this is about. Like, you don't have to stand on it. I think when people say, you know, you kind of got to stand on it, that's just your pride in a way. Like. No, you don't realize.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I think people are learning that now. No, just. And I think he's learned that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, he banks today. Yeah.

[Danny Garcia]

But I think.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think, like, you said, justice. Like, you stand on it because you say it and you're like, damn, I didn't mean to say it, but almost like your pride makes you do it. But I want to ask all the.

[DJ Envy]

Other people, but also, too, though, we got to remember, if you read his book, he was diagnosed with bipolar schizophrenia, and he was on drugs.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But I want to ask you, you know, you read the book Charlamagne. You seen the interview, Lauren? I think you read the book, too, Jess.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

I'm reading it now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Reading it now. So after hearing all that, does that make you look at Kanye any different? Cause it made me look at Kanye a lot different.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I was at TMZ with Kanye at the moment. I always. And Charlamagne. I know yesterday we had a conversation about this, but I feel like if you were there and you saw that in person. I saw the switch. Like, I saw him come in. He was charming. He was so sweet. And then it just switched, and it was, like, crazy to see. You have to know there's something going on there.

[DJ Envy]

But here's the thing. When you say, look at him different, what do you mean? Because I can look at Kanye and tell that he be dealing with psychosis and Manic's episode. There's a lot of artists. I can look at it and think that. But the difference between him and a Gucci man. Gucci man, exactly. Gucci man understands that, you know, his trauma wasn't his fault, but his healing was his responsibility. He went and got help. He actually says that verbatim in one of the chapters.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Gucci also has somebody in his corner.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Keisha Ko, his wife, somebody never gave up on him.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

That's right.

[DJ Envy]

Let me quote something out of one of his chapters in the book. This is actually at the end of chapter four.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

Go ahead.

[DJ Envy]

He said, it's a reflection of the greatest lesson that I had to learn. Sometimes when you need help.

[Danny Garcia]

That's right.

[DJ Envy]

The only person you can rely on is yourself.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right.

[DJ Envy]

So it don't matter. God bless, you know, everybody that, you know, assist you, but it starts with you.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, right. Well, he also.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

But no, I might, because I ain't answer the question. No, it didn't. It didn't make me look at him differently. I look at him the same. Because you can just piggybacking off of what Char says. You can definitely all, like, you could always tell something wasn't right with Kanye. It wasn't okay, because he would be okay one. One moment. Then he would not be okay. And then after hearing, like, Kim's testimony to certain things, it's like, no, I've been. I've been looking at him like, okay, yeah, it's his mental issues. You know what I mean?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah. And Gucci. So they. They start talking about some of the moments. So they talk about the verses with Gucci and Jeezy. And Gucci has, you know, he talks about some things he's never said before. And reflecting Back on that verses. Let's take a listen.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

When.

[DJ Envy]

When you remember you did that and then he did. Jesus did.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

I mean, did his part.

[DJ Envy]

You felt kind of like damn got over you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Now I'm gonna tell you something. I never said this, though, after I did.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

The truth.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, the truth.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm glad that he stopped and did what he did.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because if he would have played State scrap, I don't think I could have took it.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, what would that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm telling you, that's what, like, he. I guess he said, let's calm it down.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because it would have just. It would have been like a volcano.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, you was already ready to go there.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

I seen you moving. I seen you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was ready. I was ready to go there. I really.

[DJ Envy]

I really was in the heat of the moment.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I didn't intend for it to be like that. I ain't intending to go there like that.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But then it's like once you get there, it's like it just. Man, it just glows off.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

He's talking about the moment where Jeezy and him kind of were starting to go back and forth, and Jeezy stood up and said, this is not what I invited you here to do. We got to think about the artists that we've lost, and, like, we need to move forward for people and other artists to see that we are able to do that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And then he said one thing for certain, two things for sure.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And then he played I'm the realest.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes. So he's talking about that moment. And one last clip I want to play from this verses because I thought this was important, too, was him talking about Young Thug. And he says that he instantly forgave Young Thug because he was there. Let's take a listen.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Thug said some stuff about me or whatever.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

Right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And it came on the Internet. But then he made a song and say, I miss my dogs about me. I immediately accept the apologies because I'd have been there.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Right.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I wanted somebody to forgive me. I know how that. It's like. It's like a weight on it. People who.

[DJ Envy]

I won't forgive you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They won't. They don't get no comeback. They can't come around me no more. But somebody forgave me, though.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

So that makes you be like, damn.

[DJ Envy]

I really take that to heart because I know how I am.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah. And I thought that that was. Yeah, I thought that it was interesting because I think, you know, saying sorry after you've been through all the Things that Gucci talks about, he did and didn't even realize he was doing and being able to forgive Thug and all the things publicly. I thought that that was important to hear.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Also giving another man grace. You know, men don't do that. They feel like they can't. It's also pride and ego with that as well. So that's, yeah, great to hear.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That shows evolution and growth. Because what he said was, you know, he's like. He's like, I'm at an age right now where I can't dive into the petty beefs and all that. He says, if I don't mess with you, we don't mess with each other. But there is no beef. I'm not going at you. You go your way, I go my way. He said, I got two babies to raise. I ain't on it like that.

[DJ Envy]

I respect it, man. Go get Gucci. Man's book Episodes Diary of a Recovering Madman. I know we say people, you know, when we were younger, we would say people are real for how menacing they can be, really, for how criminal they can be, how gangster they can be. You know, as we've all gotten old to, what we see as real is being vulnerable, you know, real is knowing that you need healing and going to get it. And the way he's expressing all his issues in this book, man. And drop on the clues box for Gucci, man. Incredible. Incredible.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes. Yes. That's the thing. We gotta wrap it up.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's the latest with Lauren. Now when we come back, Charlamagne.

[DJ Envy]

What you doing? We got the people's donkey. Every Friday, we let you call in and give somebody the biggest he haw, okay? You can call in and give somebody the credit they deserve for being stupid. So call us right now. 1-800-585-1051. It's the world's most dangerous morning show, the Breakfast Club.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

It's your time to nominate a donkey of your own.

[DJ Envy]

Remember now, that is how they choose. Call in now.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

800-585-1051.

[DJ Envy]

Donkey of the Day for Friday, October 17th is the People's donkey. You know, we do that every Friday. We have you call in and you get to give somebody the credit they deserve for being stupid. So good morning. Who's this? Peace. What's happening? Who is this man?

[Caller/Listener]

That's RG, man. I'm from 843. What's up?

[DJ Envy]

Hey, what's happening? Calling from the Chuck this morning. Who you want to get the biggest he haw to, Man, I.

[Caller/Listener]

Sorry. Just like But I gotta give him the Just hilarious, man.

[DJ Envy]

What'd Jess do?

[Caller/Listener]

I don't know. So I get. I get the tickets to her November 1st show right in Charlotte, but I don't know how to do a dangle meet and greet, man. Jack, how you do the dangle meet and greet, and I invite you on Instagram run, ask you how to do the meet and greet. I gotta meet you, man.

[DJ Envy]

How you mad at Jess? Cause you don't know how to body.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Meet and greet, Right, but.

[Caller/Listener]

No button Charlemagne. I couldn't find the button, man.

[DJ Envy]

So how you mad at. Just because you couldn't find a button?

[Caller/Listener]

Because she didn't make it easy for me. She. I even called Comedy Zone. I still couldn't find that look.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

So this what you do, right? Damn, you already gave me D. You wait till after the show. You pay me for the meet and greet. You don't pay them. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, you stay. And then you got to come to the second show. Cuz I don't do meet and greet after the first show cuz they got to flip the room. So if.

[Caller/Listener]

Oh, yeah, I got the last show.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

I got the last.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Yep, go to the last show and you gonna get your meet and greet, baby. It's all good.

[Caller/Listener]

Okay, okay, I saw it.

[DJ Envy]

It's all good. Till you realize that meet and greet 200.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

No, it's not. No, it's not, babe. It's not.

[DJ Envy]

When is the show in Charlotte, Jess, when is it?

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

October 31st and November 1st at the Comedy Zone in Charlotte, North Carolina. Get your tickets at JessFlarisOfficial.com. the meet and greet tickets are not on the website because all of that money goes straight to me. Not the club, not the agent, not nobody but me.

[DJ Envy]

I don't think the IRS need to know that.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Oh, well.

[DJ Envy]

Good morning. Who's this?

[Caller/Listener]

Hey, good morning. How are y' all doing? What up, though? This is Kendra from Detroit.

[DJ Envy]

What's up, Kendra from Detroit? Who you giving the biggest hee haw to? Oh, Tedra.

[Caller/Listener]

I like Ezra in the Bible, but with the T on the front.

[DJ Envy]

Tedra. Tezra, who you giving the biggest hee haw to?

[Caller/Listener]

Ann Arbor Public Schools. My employer.

[DJ Envy]

Damn, what they do.

[Caller/Listener]

First of all, I spoke to y' all earlier in the summer. I'm the one whose colon ruptured.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Oh, I remember.

[Caller/Listener]

Yes. So the situation is this. Miosha has taken the lead. However, Ann Arbor Public Schools has yet to inform anyone that asbestos was disturbed during the recent. During the renovations. And also they found cancer in my body.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, man. Sorry to hear that.

[Caller/Listener]

But the thing about it is this. My faith is all swole. I trust God, and I know he's got me.

[DJ Envy]

Yes, he does.

[Caller/Listener]

Period.

[DJ Envy]

Simple as that.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

And I. And I want you to hold on to that belief. I want you to hold on to that. I want you to have faith and know that faith and fear can't coexist. But you still got to do, you know, the things that the doctor tell you to do, but know that everything that is happening to you right now is part of a bigger plan that God has for you.

[Danny Garcia]

That's right.

[Caller/Listener]

Absolutely. I want to let y' all know I love you to life.

[DJ Envy]

We love you more.

[Caller/Listener]

One day, I'm gonna meet you in person, and God bless. Have a peaceful day.

[DJ Envy]

Bless you on purpose. That's what I'm talking about.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

That's right.

[Caller/Listener]

Period.

[DJ Envy]

Good morning. Who's this great Dre? Who you want to get the biggest he? Hard to, man.

[Danny Garcia]

I want to get that.

[DJ Envy]

Too late last week, man. Okay. Why you want to give Layla Ali the biggest he, huh?

[Caller/Listener]

Ma', am, all Clarissa want to do is fight Charlie, man. That's it. Saying all this stuff, but whatever they. They talking about back and forth, whether they speaking on personal stuff. Leila, Clarissa's adamant. She just want to box.

[DJ Envy]

Whether we friends or not.

[Caller/Listener]

We used to be friends.

[DJ Envy]

It don't matter. We. I want to box.

[Caller/Listener]

She did all that. I was just box.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, but you got to build up the hype for the fight. You know what I'm saying? That's what I.

[Caller/Listener]

She ain't trying to fight, man. I hear what you're saying, but she ain't gonna fight. I promise.

[DJ Envy]

We gonna see. I mean, you're doing three parts on YouTube. I don't think Layla Ali doing this for no reason.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

For no reason.

[Caller/Listener]

He's just trying to expose her.

[DJ Envy]

That's what she trying to do. Personally, I think Layla too wrong for that, man. I think she building up hype for a fight. I could be wrong, but we about to see.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

You think they gonna fight? You think they gonna fight?

[DJ Envy]

That's what I'm saying.

[Caller/Listener]

I don't. I don't think that she gonna fight.

[DJ Envy]

I think at the end of whatever.

[Caller/Listener]

The series she's doing on YouTube, it's gonna end with, nah, I choose to retire.

[DJ Envy]

Blah, blah, blah.

[Caller/Listener]

I guarantee you she's not gonna fight her.

[DJ Envy]

Well, if she do that, I want everybody who subscribed to her YouTube page to unsubsc. I will go on an unsubscribe From Layla Ali YouTube page Campaign myself if she do that. Okay. Good morning. Who's this?

[Caller/Listener]

Good morning. My name is Charmaine Peace.

[DJ Envy]

Charmaine, who you want to give the biggest he heart to?

[Caller/Listener]

I want to give the biggest he haw to this Breakfast club this morning.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, Lord, what we do.

[Caller/Listener]

The lady who broadcast the news, she needs to. After she repeats what Trump says, she needs to follow up with put facts, like facts behind it. Because when you only repeat what he says, the listeners believe what he says is the truth, and we know that's not the case. Charlamagne, you are on a platform, and you said something very valuable the other day that the Democrats need to do. Be on repeat with their message. I think that you yourself need to do the same. You don't need to be diplomatic right now. We in a fight for our democracy, so you need to pick a side and stick with it. No, you have to come at them the way they come at us.

[DJ Envy]

I agree.

[Caller/Listener]

I'm a Democrat.

[DJ Envy]

No, my.

[Caller/Listener]

No, no, no message to be on repeat, repeat, repeat. Because that's what common people that don't have really, like, analytical skills listen to. Once you do something over and over and over and over, it sticks. So I do agree with you. You made that point the other day, so we need to do that.

[DJ Envy]

But.

[Caller/Listener]

But I. Charlemagne.

[DJ Envy]

No, no. My side is the truth. And the truth is Democrats ain't all good, Republicans ain't all good. Democrats ain't all bad. Republicans ain't all that. And we're in this. We're in this situation because of the cowardice of Democrats. And I'm going to keep saying that over and over.

[Caller/Listener]

Well, I don't agree with that because we're in a fight. It's just like we're. We are part of a family right now, Charlamagne. And we discussed that behind closed doors. But outside, we stick together. That's what the Republicans do.

[DJ Envy]

Listen, we the people have to stick together. Not we the party. We the people got to stick together. Because at the end of the day, the resistance is going to come from the people. There's one branch of government. I call it a branch of government. Even though we're not a branch of government, but we technically are. There's one body that is not controlled by the Republicans right now, and that's the people. I'm gonna always be here speaking for the people. I ain't speaking for no party. I am not speaking for no party.

[Caller/Listener]

Well, okay, I can't change your mind, obviously, but my Opinion still remains. I'm giving you the document today because right now we're in a fight. Stick with it and don't divert. Because the Republicans, that's their armory. That's their gun. They stick to it. Whatever lies, whatever troll, whatever thing, they stick to it. So we need to send a message and repeat your message that this man is just horrible. He's horrible. But you gotta say exactly what he's doing every day that's damaging the people.

[DJ Envy]

Okay?

[Caller/Listener]

And that's for your message about hate at 1am.

[DJ Envy]

Yes, ma'. Am. Thank you very much. Humans drive me crazy. I literally just told this lady I'm on the side of the people, not the side of the party. And she gonna repeat back to me what I told her after her calling up here telling me I need to be caping for Democrats. I'm not doing that. I'm not caping for Democrats. I'm not caping for Republicans. I am on the side of the people. That's it.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

Like this.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She said it like this.

[DJ Envy]

You know what I'm saying? God damn, boy. Humans drive me crazy. No, I don't, actually. I'm exhausted. Okay. I'm exhausted. Thank you. We do that every Friday. It's the people's donkey. Who we got coming up next?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Dollar sign. That's right. TY$sign is up next. His new album Tycoon is out. Now it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It's DJ Envy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Just hilarious. Charlamagne, the guy. We are the breakfast club. Lauren LaRosa is here as well. We got a special guest in the building. Ty$sign.

[Danny Garcia]

What's going on?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How you feeling, brother?

[DJ Envy]

Bless black and highly favored new album Tycoon coming. That's how you feeling?

[Ty Dollar $ign]

Yes, sir. Tycoon on the way. 1017, that's what's up.

[DJ Envy]

What do you think defines the tide dollar sign sound right now? Because a lot of people say you've helped shape, like, the modern R B sound. So what. What. What defines the tide dollar sign sound right now?

[Ty Dollar $ign]

Taking your time and finding the right. You know what I mean? Like, damn. That's a question right there.

[DJ Envy]

That's what interviews are for, Todd. You get asked questions.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

That's a good question. What is the sound? The. The greatness? There we go.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Okay. At what point did you realize that you had more to offer the world? I saw something where you talked about, like, you know, this album being for people who, you know, you dream, but, you know, it's more to you. When did you realize that about Ty$Sign.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

I realized that, like, early. Early, but especially when I got my first job. My first job was when I was like 16 and it was at a Subway Sandwiches. And I was in there going through the. You know, when they teach you everything. And I didn't come back. I went one day and that was it.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

After orientation, he was like, I'm done.

[Danny Garcia]

He's like, I can't do this.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

It's not for me to go make music and figure it out. Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Is that where you. Am I getting this right? That where you met, like, YG and everybody back then?

[Ty Dollar $ign]

No, no, no, no.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, so you met him in Subway made sandwich.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

No, it was much later, though.

[DJ Envy]

Okay.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Why Tycoon? Why is that the name of the album Tycoon?

[Ty Dollar $ign]

Cuz that's where I'm stepping into my greatness. It's a Jap. It came from a Japanese word. Great Lord. And you know, over here in English, it's like, top of your game, top of your business. I did the artist thing, started the record label, Easy Money. We signed our first artist, Leon Thomas. He's now Leon Thomas.

[DJ Envy]

I don't think you get enough credit for that. Like, people, like, people mention it, but it's like, no, that's tied. Dollar Sign Artist, which says a lot. Like I always say, you know, you become a true legend when your tree bears fruit.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

Exactly. Yeah, man. So shout out to Leon. I'm a champagne owner now. It's the champagne. What else we got? I'm about to drop a documentary.

[DJ Envy]

Yep.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

My daughter. Let's talk about my daughter. My daughter's 20 years old now. She's at Pepperdine getting her masters.

[DJ Envy]

Wow.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

So shout out to her, man.

[DJ Envy]

That's what life is about. That's what I'm talking about. Listen, real fruits when it comes to Leon, right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, well, how did they meet?

[DJ Envy]

First of all, how did y'.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

All.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How did you sign Leon? Where did y' all meet?

[Ty Dollar $ign]

We met at this studio session, like, during the Pandemic. My homie Ali was like, yo, you gotta check this out. And he played me this song, that California Cation song that we. It's called Love Jones now. But at first it was California Cation, and then it's Love Jones on his first album. And really, I was supposed to put that out, but I didn't put it out. And then he was like, I'm about to use it on my bam. We ended up signing him, me and Sean Baron, because we always talked about making a label together. Sean Barron is the guy who signed Me to Atlantic in 2012, and now we got a label together, so it's a blessing, man.

[DJ Envy]

You know, a lot of artists, they'll see another artist with that type of talent, and they'll basically, like, just take the whole aura, take the energy for themselves. What made you say, nah, man, I want you to go fly on your own?

[Ty Dollar $ign]

Because it just reminded me of myself, like, at that time, just being great, but people not knowing what to do or. You know what I mean? So I'm like, yo, we got the label. Would you be down? He's like, what? Let's go. And we figured it out.

[Lauren LaRosa]

What instincts do you use in business that you gather from music or vice versa that help you be good at what you do?

[Ty Dollar $ign]

It's a. It's a total different thing. But in business, it's all about getting the right team. You know what I'm saying? And I got a great team, so I just want to shout out to them, because I couldn't do it all alone, for sure.

[DJ Envy]

How do you balance being a collaborator behind a sound but then being an artist in front of it? Because, you know, you work and produce for people, everybody, right? So how do you know when to just be a collaborator behind the sound, but then switching now to do the album and being an artist in front of the sound?

[Ty Dollar $ign]

When it comes to music, I just, like, give it what it needs. You know what I mean? I don't try to overdo it. It's like, if I'm. If I feel like it just needs my feature, cool. If it's my song, it's a whole different thing. You know what I mean?

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

It's the intention, and you talked about that. You're also dropping a documentary.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

Yeah.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Still Free tc, What is that about? Give us a little bit about. I know you don't want to spoil it.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

Still Free TC is basically gonna show you my whole. There's some parts that are not in there, but it's basically my whole thing from a kid all the way up until now, the whole trajectory, like, yeah. Deeper than any other interview has went or any other. Any other way. You guys see me out there for sure. That's on the way. It's basically done. I scored the whole thing. And shout out to the whole team that put that together as well.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who pushes you the most as far as creative? Is it your artist? Is it another artist that you're in? Whether it's YG or whoever it may be, who pushes you the most to say, now, I could do better than that?

[Ty Dollar $ign]

I think I Pushed myself the hardest just from. Just for caring and wanted to go to the next level. And just like, all right, that's cool, but what can we do different? All right, that sounds like, you know, I've heard this before. What can we do, you know what I mean, to take it to the next level? I get real bored with music, you know what I mean? It's like, how many songs come out a day? You know what I'm saying? So it's like, what can we do to make it, like, interesting? You know I'm saying, what's the wow factor?

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Who is your inspiration? Right? Because your voice is, like, timeless on anything you. Anything you put your voice on, it makes it a hit, right? I love your vocals, love your voice.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

Appreciate that.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Who is your inspiration?

[Ty Dollar $ign]

Inspiration? Tons. It could be. We could name back in the day artists all the way up until now, but I like Prince, I like d', Angelo, I like Jodeci, I like Kim Burrell. I like all the greatest singers. Stevie Wonder. Stevie Wonder's my favorite male singer ever. I could just. Then there's rap, then there's, like, house music, then there's rock music, then there's tons of things that could inspire me.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

We just love music, period.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

Sure.

[DJ Envy]

You remember the first Stevie Wonder record you ever heard?

[Ty Dollar $ign]

First Stevie Wonder record, maybe. Isn't she lovely? I don't know. I don't know if that's the first.

[DJ Envy]

But that's the one that you felt like you felt.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, it's Ed Helms. And welcome back to snafu, my podcast about history's greatest screw ups. On our new season, we're bringing you a new SNAFU Every single episode.

[Mimi Brown]

32 lost nuclear weapons. You're like, wait, stop. What?

[DJ Envy]

Ernie Shackleton sounds like a solid 70s.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

Basketball player who still wore knee pads.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, it's going to be a whole lot of history, a whole lot of funny, and a whole lot of guests. The great Paul Scheer made me feel good.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

I'm like, oh wow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Angela and Jenna, I am so psyched you're here.

[Mimi Brown]

What was that like for you to soft launch into the show?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Sorry, Jenna, I'll be asking the questions today.

[Mimi Brown]

I forgot whose podcast we were doing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nick Kroll. I hope this story is good enough to get you to toss that sand.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

So let's, let's, let's see how it goes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Listen to season four of SNAFU with Ed Helms on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. All I know is what I've been told.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

And that's a half truth is a whole lie.

[Mimi Brown]

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[Caller/Listener]

I'm telling you, we know Quincy killed her.

[Mimi Brown]

We know a story that law enforcement used to convict six people and that got the citizen investigator on national tv.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky.

[Caller/Listener]

Housewife helped give justice to Jessica Curran.

[Mimi Brown]

My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist producer and I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

I did not know her and I.

[DJ Envy]

Did not kill her or rape or Burn or any of that other stuff.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

That y' all said. They literally made me say that I.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Took a match and struck and threw it on her.

[Caller/Listener]

They made me say that I poured.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Gas on her.

[Mimi Brown]

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[Governor Josh Shapiro]

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[Mimi Brown]

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[Ty Dollar $ign]

That's just what I thought of right now.

[DJ Envy]

When you said it.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

I could hear it.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Did you grow up singing in church?

[Ty Dollar $ign]

I didn't. I didn't. I didn't really want people to know I could sing back then. I didn't really, like, all the way know how to sing back then, but it was in me. But I was playing bass in church, though, for sure. Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

When you first started singing.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

I first started singing when I was a kid. But, like, publicly, you said.

[Danny Garcia]

What was her name?

[Ty Dollar $ign]

Yeah, what was her name? That was really my pops that got me into singing, because y' all know my pops, he did music as well. Yeah, he still does music to this day. He just sent me this video of him playing somewhere, playing trumpet. But it's just. It's just something that I've always loved, and I get to make money off of it. You know what I mean?

[Lauren LaRosa]

You. I mean, you're R B, but it's like a different type of R B. Are you, like, an emotional person in a relationship and that gives you inspo for your music, too, or.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

Yeah, I can be sure. I could definitely be emotional.

[DJ Envy]

How much of that comes. How much of that comes from your own personal highs and lows, though?

[Ty Dollar $ign]

Yeah, some of it's personal. Some of it's like if I do a song with a writer. You know what I mean? Whatever. But I still put my. My passion into it, you know? I still put my. My whole thing into it, for sure.

[DJ Envy]

What's the last thing you looked at online about yourself and laughed?

[Ty Dollar $ign]

Last thing I looked at online about myself and laughed is calling me Jar Jar Binks.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, that's hilarious.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

Damn.

[DJ Envy]

That's what I call her.

[Lauren LaRosa]

He calls me that.

[DJ Envy]

That's what I call her.

[Danny Garcia]

Damn.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

I didn't know who Jar Jar Binks was before this, and then I looked at it.

[Mimi Brown]

How.

[Lauren LaRosa]

How did you feel like when you saw him?

[Ty Dollar $ign]

Well, when you see the one picture from the oral video, the way my hair was.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, man.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

And then you put it next to Jar Jar Binks is actually hilarious. Like, this is funny.

[DJ Envy]

You didn't laugh when they said you was on neon screen kissing a man.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

Okay, see this Romani man, That's the homie. He from Brazil. This is how he does all the homies. Like, oh, what's up? And we told him like, yo. And he didn't actually kiss me, bro, if you really look close.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

But yeah, he just made a sound.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

So what? I had a fishnet shirt on that was sexy as your was loving it.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I know.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

That's right.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

How about that? Yeah, yeah.

[DJ Envy]

That used to be regular, though, fish, that. Back in the, like, 90s.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

I forgot what type of shirt that was, but that was expensive, too.

[DJ Envy]

Nipple peeking.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

I like it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That was the Jamaican shirt back in the day.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

It was.

[DJ Envy]

Did you have. Did you have to explain that to anybody, though?

[Ty Dollar $ign]

I don't ever have to explain.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You don't say much.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, you had to laugh, though.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

It was funny. I definitely called that, like, bruh. See, I told your stupid ass. We don't even. That's not how it is out here. We don't do that.

[DJ Envy]

What'd he say?

[Ty Dollar $ign]

He was like, man, I'm gonna be me every time. Like, you know, I ain't get well this well, he's married.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I saw you say that.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Is this album right? You said it's perfect for shrooms.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

Nah, I hate shrooms.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Why?

[Lauren LaRosa]

You don't like transcribing it? Wrong.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Yeah.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

Like this back. Back in the day. Okay, shrooms, it can be fun, people laugh. But if a bad thing happens on shrooms, it's that same energy of the greatness reverse. So I forgot what song it was. I think it was motion. Like this song right before Vultures that I put out. I was going to do radio interviews up and down California. Start off in the bay, drive down. It's just me, the rep from Atlantic, and the driver, and I'm like, you know what? I'm about to take one of these little corners of this chocolate bar, go do these interviews, be a funny ass. Like, have all the energy. You feel me? Early morning, all this. It worked well. I went and started and did my interviews. It was going crazy, just having fun. Then we get back in the car, and I'm looking at the phone and the homies is like, well, I actually talked to my homie the day before, and he was in the hospital, and I was supposed to Go see him the next day. I had to go do these interviews. And my plan was as soon as I got back to la, I was gonna go to the hospital. But on the drive down, they said he passed away.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Oh, wow.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

While I'm on mushrooms in the backseat by myself and nobody to talk to, and it's like, ah, yeah. And it made me just like, never want to. With that ever again.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Damn. I'm so sorry.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

Yeah. Yeah. Long live my brother. Big Y.

[DJ Envy]

Damn.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

Yeah.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

I got something I was ready to do soon as I went home. No, you never did the actual plant. That was just a.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

See that chocolate. I thought about that part too. That was the chocolate one. And back in the day when it was the actual plant. Yeah, it was. I had way better times, so I don't know.

[Danny Garcia]

Right.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

All that.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

All that candy.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

Maybe it was that.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah. I didn't know the story was gonna be dark if I knew it was gonna be like. You know what I mean?

[Ty Dollar $ign]

But maybe there's light in that. Maybe this. It's true. Maybe we just kept somebody off of doing drugs. You feel me?

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Yeah, yeah, for sure. Definitely. Especially the chocolate ones.

[DJ Envy]

Absolutely.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Leon Thomas, in his career was. Is like such a success story. I saw you call him King of R B.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

Right.

[Lauren LaRosa]

When you're looking for other artists now, is it R B that you're trying to stand in lane, or like, what type of artists are you looking for now for your label that you have?

[Ty Dollar $ign]

Yeah, just like the greatest artist possible. Like, people that are actually good people that aren't just like, you could tell, man. It's like certain people that just want to get famous or just get lucky. You know what I'm saying? Or just have popularity and it's like, that should be cool. But when it comes to easy Money, we want the. The real deal, you know?

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Over at Easy Money, do y' all invest in artist development? Because that's not something that's around anymore. Like you said, most people want to get famous just to be famous or.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

Yeah.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

You know, for the giggles, the likes and all that type.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

There was something that I love that much, that I believed in. I would invest in that. But I. I more so like working with Easy Lifters. Meaning like that you got your. Together.

[DJ Envy]

I've.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

I used to have my old label, the Movement. I've started many labels.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Yeah.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

Sign many people. But now it's like Leon is. Has been the easiest person to work with. So now that's like my blueprint. It's like, if you ain't got it, like that then I don't even want to waste my time, because it's the same as I am. Right? You know, I'm like, gonna come with the fully done. I'm gonna do my part. So now when I get my team, it's like, all right, you do your part. You do your part, and we can all win together.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Right?

[Ty Dollar $ign]

You know what I mean? So I want a person that has this together. The last meeting that we went, I said this in another interview, but I'm gonna tell it to y'. All. The last meeting we went to at Capitol Motown for Leon, this pulls out his laptop. Oh, you guys got HDMI cable. They hook it up. He PowerPoint display. This is how the album's gonna go. These are the directors I want to work with. These are the colors I want to use. This is my stage. I'm like, oh, this is all I need from you, Ty, can you make this happen? Yeah, I want to get Chris Brown on a song. You feel me? Like, like that, like, got your together.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Easy money.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

And then it makes it easy, you know?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Were there ever any artists that in all of your label Journey.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

Yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

That you didn't sign, and now you're like, oh, maybe they weren't all the way to having their together, but I should have. Because now I see them and they get it now.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

Yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Like your artists. You feel like you missed out on that?

[Ty Dollar $ign]

I missed out on not for real. I like that I didn't have my together when it was like when I first met yg. So we did it more team. Right? You know what I mean? But we still, you know, we still rocking. He own my newest song. I just put out Smile, Body, Pretty Face featuring Kodak and yg.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

I need a love making banger with you and Leon Thomas.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

I got you.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Okay, question.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what I want done.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

That's why I need. Yo, I ain't gonna ask you no more.

[Danny Garcia]

All right?

[DJ Envy]

Is the perfect person to do a crime with because he ain't gonna tell the police. I mean, you can interrogate him all day. He gonna be sitting there with that hoodie on, you know?

[Ty Dollar $ign]

41, 41, 41.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Ladies and gentlemen, Tycoon comes out on the 17th. It's Ty$ Sign. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

Yes, sir, the Breakfast Club.

[DJ Envy]

Morning, everybody.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlamagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. It's time for pasta or.

[Caller/Listener]

Dj.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Cause fy. Dj.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, dj. Come spin now.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

Come spin.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What's up, Nyla?

[DJ Envy]

What's up, Guys, Big Nyla, Nyla Simone. What's happening?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Oh, nothing.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

Just another day.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Happy Friday.

[DJ Envy]

Happy Friday.

[Caller/Listener]

Friday.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And I'm gonna get into some music first. I'm gonna start with this.

[Caller/Listener]

Big L and Nas. You know, Nas is doing a bunch.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Of legendary projects with his Mass Appeal label. And him and Big L dropped the record. It's called you Ain't got a Chance.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Big L still sound amazing. Man.

[DJ Envy]

Mass Appeal is the best hip hop label out right now. And it's not even close.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

Yeah, correct.

[DJ Envy]

Like, they're the best hip hop label out. They put out Ghost Face Project, Ray Crom, Raekwon Project, Mob, Deep Project. Like, when it comes to just hip hop. Yeah, they're the best hip hop label out.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

Yeah. Purists.

[DJ Envy]

Purists, Absolutely.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And this is cool because it's going.

[Mimi Brown]

To introduce a whole new generation to.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Big Luke since he passed.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

But you said Nas is on there, too.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

I gotta get Evers.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

Yes.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And then next, I'm gonna go with this Molly and Tyler record. I know the Internet is not in love with Tyler, but I still really, really like Tyler.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

I like her music. I don't know why they do that. And they just. Yo. Told grudges so long over stuff that ain't got nothing to do with them.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah. But I love her. And she just did a record with Molly, who Molly has been, I feel like an underdog in the Afrobeat world. And I'm so happy that they collapsed because this is just a great record.

[Mimi Brown]

And the record is called Body Go.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Like it's a little vibe.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Y' all watch Peacemaker. On the last episode of Peacemaker, they went into a multiverse and it was all these little imps, like these little, small, little tiny creatures that was eating people. Sound like a bunch of them singing that. Sound like a bunch of Gremlins.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I mean.

[DJ Envy]

I mean that respectfully. Like that. That was. That was not dope. And y' all are lying. Tyler be making some good records, but that wasn't one of them.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's Molly's record.

[DJ Envy]

Who's Molly?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He not listening.

[DJ Envy]

I thought you said.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Just sat there and just told us.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Whoever that was, Molly is on Shake it to the Max.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Shake it to the Max.

[DJ Envy]

Well, whoever that was singing just now sound like the Gremlins when they was in the movie theater. Right. Right before.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Why we gotta be lying? We like it. We like it. You like stuff that we don't like when.

[DJ Envy]

When y' all say it's cool. Y' all don't like it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Not just said it's cool. I would tell you if I don't like it.

[DJ Envy]

You know what I'm saying?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Maybe this is a bad introduction. She has a really another. You like Shaking to the Max? Everybody likes.

[DJ Envy]

I don't know what. Shaking to the Max.

[Lauren LaRosa]

That was like the song of the summer.

[DJ Envy]

All I know is that sounds like the first single of Gremlins 3 soundtrack. Stupid, man. Right? That's what that was.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You know what? It's okay. I'm gonna sing another record by her, I think.

[DJ Envy]

I'm sorry, Molly.

[Lauren LaRosa]

She has a unique voice.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

She does, but she does.

[Lauren LaRosa]

She's actually really fire.

[DJ Envy]

All right. Just don't feed her after midnight. That's what it sounds like.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Sorry, Molly.

[DJ Envy]

I'm sorry, Molly. I'm sorry.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

Sorry.

[DJ Envy]

I'm sorry.

[Lauren LaRosa]

The last record is with Jordan Ward and Sailor. You definitely know Sailor.

[DJ Envy]

No, I don't, but I'm putting me on.

[Lauren LaRosa]

The Asian girl with the girl.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, yeah, yeah. She dope. She dope.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Okay. And Jordan Ward, you had, like, this.

[Mimi Brown]

Record, but I haven't played a record for him in, like, two years.

[Lauren LaRosa]

But anyway, Jordan Ward and Sailor put out a single. And this is leading up for Jordan Ward's new project, which is dropping next month. And the song is called Smoking Partner.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Now, she sound like a gremlin or edible vocals.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

But I like it, though.

[DJ Envy]

You shouldn't smoke when you're a singer. It messes up your vocals. Okay, you won for three today. That was that. I don't know, man.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

I like the music. I like the music.

[DJ Envy]

I like the music.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It's vibey.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I couldn't get jiggy with that one, but it's cool.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

I just don't understand what she was saying. But I definitely did like the music.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

It was.

[Lauren LaRosa]

That was Jordan. The part that you guys heard was Jordan.

[Caller/Listener]

Him.

[Lauren LaRosa]

But he's vibes. He makes, like, vibey music.

[DJ Envy]

It sounded like it was covet and she was singing behind a mask. That was a man. Or woman.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You stupid.

[Lauren LaRosa]

That was a man.

[DJ Envy]

It sounded like he was singing behind a mask in the booth. Like, he was. He had a little surgical mask on in the booth. It sounded very muffled, like the mix or something. That wasn't it.

[Lauren LaRosa]

All right, well, if you guys like the songs or.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah. Music is subjective. Don't take my word. The music is subjective, y'. All. If y' all like it, cool. I'm not knocking it.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Okay.

[DJ Envy]

You just asked me my opinion.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I did, I did. You know, people really be coming up to me playing records and, like, you.

[Mimi Brown]

Think Charlamagne will like this?

[Caller/Listener]

I'm like, I don't know.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I do not know.

[DJ Envy]

Well, there's only one way to find out. Listen to Bath Dogs.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They might want to find out that way. You heard some feelings this morning.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

I know.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Well, if for those who do enjoy it or definitely want to check out that big L Nas record, definitely follow me at. Yeah, maybe I should have ended with.

[DJ Envy]

That one, but okay.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Nyla Simone. N Y L A S Y M O N E E E. You can follow me on Instagram, click the link in bio. I have a few playlists on my website, but Certified is the one where you'll find all the records from Breakfast Club.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, thank you, Nyla. Now, when we come back, we got the People's Choice mix. We throw it back on a Friday. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[DJ Envy]

You're checking out the Breakfast Club.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We are all the Breakfast Club. I brought a is with us this morning, and we got a special guest in the building from Philly. Philly.

[DJ Envy]

Philly.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Hey.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The brother, Danny Garcia.

[DJ Envy]

Welcome, bro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How you feeling?

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

Feel good.

[Danny Garcia]

Feel good.

[DJ Envy]

Are you really having a final fight? Is this Daniel Gonzalez? Like, yeah, like, retired. Like, done, done?

[Danny Garcia]

Yeah, I feel like it.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah. Really?

[Danny Garcia]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Why do you think that?

[Danny Garcia]

Just. This is my 42nd fight. I've been pro since 2008. I mean, I won world titles. I had my ups, I had my downs, but just to be. I just feel like I could still fight, but I just feel like I'm not passionate as I used to be about it.

[DJ Envy]

Interesting.

[Danny Garcia]

I don't want to let my fans down, but at the end of the day, I feel this fight, I feel good. I know what I got myself into, so it's my show, my promotion. That's what really promoted. That's what really motivated me to do this last fight. But other than that, I think that's pretty much it. I just feel like. Like I want to give my fans everything that I got in that ring, and I don't know if I could keep up that momentum and that. That type of love.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You don't want to beat up a couple of YouTubers, though, after that.

[Danny Garcia]

Like, oh, yeah, I'll do that. I'm talking about fights that, like, really.

[DJ Envy]

Count because YouTube, the YouTube fights, we're fighting influencers.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Facts.

[Danny Garcia]

Yeah. That's for sure. Now. I'll do that for sure. I still be an entertainer. I still go out there.

[DJ Envy]

But the decision you made happened.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

Must be. It must have been during training camp.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because when you first Announced this fight. You said, this is your farewell to Brooklyn.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

Yeah. But you still gonna fight again.

[Danny Garcia]

But then it seems like that changed. I said it wasn't.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

Sure.

[Danny Garcia]

85% chance that I.

[DJ Envy]

That you would fight again?

[Danny Garcia]

No.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That.

[DJ Envy]

I'll hang it up.

[Danny Garcia]

Yeah.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

Oh, okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So what was the last thing? Cause you said that was the 85. So what was the.

[Danny Garcia]

The 15 is just because I'm a fighter.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What was the thing that said, nah, this is it. Was it. The training was like, Nah, my back hurt.

[DJ Envy]

Like, what was it?

[Danny Garcia]

No, it wasn't. It wasn't the training. It was like before I started, before I even started training, I knew that this could be my last fight.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Does fatherhood play a part in it?

[Danny Garcia]

Yeah, definitely.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Yeah.

[Danny Garcia]

I got three kids, three beautiful kids. And I got my son Danny, he's one.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Yeah.

[Danny Garcia]

I got palace, she's three. And I got Philly, she's 10. So definitely just being here, I'm missing time with them, and my daughter's already 10 years old, and I felt like I missed her grow up, to be honest. That's how fast them 10 years went. It's like I missed so much, you know, because when you're in the primary career, everything's going so fast.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Yeah.

[Danny Garcia]

It's like everything's like you miss everything. And I just felt like I missed and grow up, and I don't. I don't want to feel that one. My other two kids gained a lot, though.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

I mean, missing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, yeah, like, for sure.

[Danny Garcia]

It's a sacrifice. You know, in life, you. You know, you can't have it all. You can't have that beautiful family that you can't have the time, you can't have the money. Like, you just can't have it all. Every time you got to sacrifice something, you know how it goes to be successful.

[DJ Envy]

You said you just. You realizing that you don't have the passion. Is this something you're just realizing or, you know, even. I think your last fight was against what, Laura, right?

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Yeah.

[Danny Garcia]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Like, and you got stopped in the knife round. Did you have the passion then or you think it was Wayne going away to.

[Danny Garcia]

I thought. I thought I was up for it. And then, remember, I was out for 28 months before that fight. I was out. And, you know, boxing, inactivity for a fighter, that's the worst thing for a boxer because you got to stay active, you got to stay sharp. So I thought I could do it. And I went up a weight class from 147 to 160.

[DJ Envy]

Damn. Yeah.

[Danny Garcia]

I Was trying to do something legendary, but it didn't work my way, you know, but it's all good.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So let's talk about that. You took two years off this year because of anxiety and depression. So what happened during that two years that says, you know what, I need to take a step aside? Like, what was.

[DJ Envy]

What was.

[Danny Garcia]

Was concerning the Benavides fight to the Laura fight. I was actually already. I recovered from everything that was from, like, from 2020 to 2022. That's when I was going through, like, anxiety and depression. Then I came back. I beat Benavides. I put it all behind me. I just started looking at life different, started being appreciate things, being grateful. I felt good. And then I just sat around for two and a half years. Not because I wanted to, because, you know, boxing just sometimes it's just the way it is.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

When you see these boxes, get some of these huge paydays by. By fighting whoever they want, right? Some. We Talked earlier about YouTube stars and influencers. Does that make you say, you know what? Forget quote unquote, real boxing. I'm gonna go this lane because there's more money in this lane.

[Danny Garcia]

Yeah. I mean, I wish I would have always thought like that. Like, growing up in Philly, it's like if you did, like, if you promoted yourself or did anything weird, it's like.

[DJ Envy]

You, like, you get.

[Danny Garcia]

You get clowned for it, right? It's like Philly, they teach you how to be like, real. But I feel like that's what we missing is like, the marketing part.

[DJ Envy]

You said real, but real. What?

[Danny Garcia]

It's just like, don't do. Not goofy for fame.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, gotcha.

[Danny Garcia]

Like, that's how I was always brought up. But it's like, really, you got to kind of have like a character, you know, you gotta. You gotta be a fighter and you gotta be a entertainer.

[DJ Envy]

You know, you fought some killers too. I mean, you think about Thurman. I swear, I kind of forgot about some of those. So I came in. We were just talking about. But you fought Thurman, you fought Porter. You fall, Spence. But you never got stopped. Do you feel like your toughness, your toughness was taken for granted?

[Danny Garcia]

Oh, yeah, for sure. Two out of those three fights, I felt like I won. You know, those are controversial fights, especially the. The Thurman and Porter fight. Many people thought I won those fights, but no, I always knew. Everybody knew I was gritty, I was tough. That's what got me here, is my heart. So I never. Yeah, I never even knocked down to my last fight. Because I took a knee. Really? I got hit with a good shot, I took a knee, and that's pretty much it.

[DJ Envy]

I was gonna ask you, what's the fight that keeps you up at night? What's the one you wish you could run back?

[Danny Garcia]

Man, Keith Thurman. That fight was like. That was my first loss, and I was 33. 0 before that, so I never dreamed about losing. So when I lost, I felt like somebody died in my family. That's how bad it was. Damn. Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Did Floyd do that to a generation? I feel like Floyd did that to a generation. Floyd, being undefeated made boxers feel like you gotta be undefeated to be great.

[Danny Garcia]

I never really cared about being undefeated, but it was like, my first loss. It was tough, like, you know what I mean? Like your first time losing. I knew it was a possibility I could lose because I was fighting another great champion like myself, but I just felt unstoppable. So when I lost, it was like, dang, I learned something about myself.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

So how did you recover and reset from that?

[Danny Garcia]

I just took a year off, came back and knocked somebody out and then forgot about it.

[DJ Envy]

What fight was that?

[Danny Garcia]

That was Brandon Reels.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, yeah.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Brandon was tough.

[Danny Garcia]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

I never.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

You never seen Brandon get knocked out like that. That was vicious.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who was somebody that you wish you would have fought out from your era that you didn't?

[Danny Garcia]

Just Floyd Pacquiao. That's about it.

[DJ Envy]

Floyd and Pacquiao, yeah.

[Danny Garcia]

I feel like I fought everybody else.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Danny Garcia]

Besides Crawford, but I fought him in amateurs.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

Right.

[Danny Garcia]

But I really fought every single body in my generation.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Did you.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

Did you ever try to make a.

[DJ Envy]

Fight with Pacquiao back when you were at 147?

[Danny Garcia]

When he fought Thurman, they offered. They offered him me or Thurman? When he was Thurman.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

Yeah.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

Oh, wow.

[Danny Garcia]

They said, you want to fight Danny or Thurman? And he picked. He picked Thurman.

[DJ Envy]

Wow.

[Danny Garcia]

Yeah. Well, when I fought Matisse and he fought Canelo, remember, I was the co. Main event. I was told if I beat Matisse, remember, I was like, are you underdog again? Nobody thought I was gonna win, but they said if I won that fight that they were setting it up for me to fight Floyd. Well, it just never happened.

[DJ Envy]

Damn. And, you know, you talked earlier about taking time off for mental health reasons. What did you learn about yourself during that break that fighting could never teach you?

[Danny Garcia]

That's a good question. I was always a warrior. Like, I was worried about stuff. Like, I just. I learned that I can't. Can't Save everything, you know, I mean, I can't change the world as much as you want. Now, you try to help, you know, you try to do this, you try to do that, but I just try to.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

Yeah.

[Danny Garcia]

Can't save the world. And basically, like, I just try to be living the moment. That's it. Because most of the stuff you're worried about is, like, stuff that never happens. And I don't know why I was always like that. I just be worried thinking about things like.

[DJ Envy]

That's what anxiety is.

[Danny Garcia]

Yeah, I just be. If I got a fight, I'll just be thinking about it, like, every day. I cannot get my mind off the damn fight. And I'm thinking that I'm focused, but I'm really just psyching myself out. But as soon as I go in the ring, it just go away. But I just hate that feeling, like, you know, it's like you can't get that thought out your head.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

You feeling like that now?

[Danny Garcia]

No, I feel good now.

[DJ Envy]

The funny thing you said about marketing, too, I was thinking about. I'm like, damn. It's mad people in Philly that know how to market themselves. And don't look goofy, though, like Gilly the Wallows. Kevin Hart's.

[Danny Garcia]

Yeah, but before, they was all serious, remember? Well, not Kevin Hart. He was serious.

[DJ Envy]

And then Gil did the Chicken man, though.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

But he was serious about that. We wasn't.

[Danny Garcia]

That is true. Gil, now he's being himself. Yeah, he was probably always like that, you know, funny, laughing around. But, you know, in Philly, it was.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Just like, gotta be tough.

[Danny Garcia]

Yeah. It's just how people. It's how they talk, they teach people. Or how you raised, let's say you, You.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

You win big on Saturday at the Barclays center and you retire in the ring.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who would bring you back out of retirement? Like, what fight? Or what fight you would say?

[DJ Envy]

You know what, Pops? We're gonna do it one more time.

[Danny Garcia]

I need like 10 million, so whoever.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

All right, so it's a number.

[DJ Envy]

It's not a fight.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

It's a number.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's a number.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

It's a number.

[Danny Garcia]

10 mil. The risk got to be worth the reward.

[DJ Envy]

No doubt.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

Tell me is a good number.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, we wish you the best, brother.

[DJ Envy]

And what's the platform again?

[Danny Garcia]

It's called Millions Co Millions. And it's on DirecTV.

[DJ Envy]

Okay.

[Danny Garcia]

So if you got DirecTV, you can watch it on there. So Millions co is the platform.

[DJ Envy]

Millions.com or in new York, pull up to the Barclays.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, 18th. Get there, get your tickets, and like we said, we wish you the best of luck, brother.

[DJ Envy]

Absolutely. Congratulations on whatever it is you decide to do, man.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

Thank you.

[Danny Garcia]

Thank you. Appreciate it.

[Ty Dollar $ign]

Absolutely.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's Danny Garcia. We appreciate you. Now, Charlamagne, you got a positive note.

[DJ Envy]

I do. But I want to salute Governor Josh Shapiro for pulling up, man, you know, I mean, always a great conversation with Governor Joshua. Make sure you go watch that full conversation On Breakfast Club YouTube page. Now salute to Ty Dollar Sign for pulling up. His new album Tycoon is out right now in Birmingham, Alabama. I'll see y' all this afternoon because I'll be in Birmingham, Alabama at the Alabama Theater with former Vice president Kamala Harris having a conversation about her book that is out right now. 107 days. So I'll see y' all this afternoon in Birmingham, Alabama.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

October 31st and November 1st. You guys need to come see me in Charlotte, North Carolina, at the Comedy Zone. We got four shows that weekend. We got two on Friday, two on Saturday. So get your tickets if you have not yet. Jessalariusofficial.com I will be doing meet and greet. However, meet and greet is not on the website. So you see me after the second show. If you want to partake in the meet and greet, also wear your Halloween costumes because I'll be giving away a cash prize for the best Halloween costume.

[DJ Envy]

That's right. Now the positive, you don't have to.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Don't, don't say nothing else after I promote so dry.

[DJ Envy]

That's right. Go see Big Jess. Jessica Robin Moore. Okay, okay, okay. All right, listen in the positive note is simply this. Be kind to yourself. Be proud of yourself. Be patient with yourself. Take care of the most important person in your life yourself. Have a great day. Breakfast Club, bitches.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hello, America's sweetheart. Johnny Knoxville here. I want to tell you about my new true crime podcast, Crimeless Hillbilly Heist from Smartless Media, Campside Media and Big Money Players. It's a wild tale about a gang of high functioning nitwits who somehow pulled off America's third largest cash heist.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

Kind of like Robin Hood, except for the part where he steals from the rich and gives to the poor. I'm not that generous.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's a damn near inspiring true story for anyone out there who's ever shot for the moon, then just totally muffed up the landing.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

They stole $17 million and had not.

[DJ Envy]

Bought a ticket to help him escape.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

So we're sitting like, oh, God, what do we do?

[Ty Dollar $ign]

What do we do?

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

That was dumb. People. Do not follow my example.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Listen to Crimeless Hillbilly Heist on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, it's Ed Helms, host of Snafu, my podcast about history's greatest screw ups. On our new season, we're bringing you a new snafu. Every single episode.

[Mimi Brown]

32 lost nuclear weapons. You're like, wait, stop. What?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, it's gonna be a whole lot of history, a whole lot of funny, and a whole lot of fabulous guests. Paul Scheer, Angela and Jenna, Nick Kroll, Jordan Klepper. Listen to season four of SNAFU with Ed Helms on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Mimi Brown]

The murder of an 18 year old girl in Graves County, Kentucky went went unsolved for years until a local housewife, a journalist and a handful of girls came forward with a story.

[Governor Josh Shapiro]

America, y' all better wake the hell up. Bad things happens to good people and small towns.

[Mimi Brown]

Listen to Graves county on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season ad free. Subscribe to Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcasts. Short on time, but big on true crime. On a recent episode of the podcast Hunting for Answers, I highlighted the story of 19 year old Lachey Dungey. But she never knocked on that door.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

She never made it inside.

[Mimi Brown]

And that text message would be the.

[Jessica Robin Moore (Just Hilarious)]

Last time anyone would ever hear from her.

[Mimi Brown]

Listen to Hunting for Answers from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Lauren LaRosa]

This is an iHeart podcast.