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Lauren LaRosa
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Jasmine
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Charlamagne Tha God
Good morning usa. Yo, yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo.
DJ Envy
Just Larry Charlemagne. To God.
Charlamagne Tha God
Peace to the planet. It's Tuesday. How y' all feel out there? I feel blessed. Black and highly favored. Happy to be here another day to serve our beautiful listeners, man. Drop on the clues bombs for the Jacksonville Jaguars. Okay, first of all, I love Jacksonville. All right? That's number one. But number two, I just like seeing the Kansas City Chiefs lose. It warms my cold heart to see the Kansas City Chiefs have a losing record.
DJ Envy
Yeah, they lost last night. 3128. Did you watch the whole game?
Charlamagne Tha God
I didn't watch none of the game. Okay. But I saw the score, so. All right. I was up. I'm reading a great book right now. It's Allen Iverson's memoir. Yeah.
DJ Envy
Allen Iverson's memoir. Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, man. Man, that's what I've been. That's what I've been on all weekend.
DJ Envy
I love to read books like that because you know the person in real life so that. To actually know his story, to see his story. Because I went to Virginia, I went to Hampton University when he was going through all the things that he was going through. I remember that bowling alley.
Charlamagne Tha God
Paul.
DJ Envy
That bowling alley situation when he was just coming up and I was out there.
Havoc
It was.
DJ Envy
It's just. It's a great story if you haven't got the book. Is the book out yet? Not yet.
Charlamagne Tha God
Well, no, it's not out yet. I think it's out this week.
DJ Envy
This week?
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah. I love reading stories like that because you don't know a person. You know what I mean? Like, you. You. You hear all of these headlines and things like that, but you actually get to know, you know, what the person was thinking in that moment, what led to certain situations. But, you know, Allen Iverson is a cultural icon, so all cultural icons should write memoirs. They should tell their own stories while they. While they're still alive to tell them. So I'm thoroughly enjoying this book. I'm almost done with it, actually. I agree.
DJ Envy
I seen AI a couple of weeks ago, too. When I was in Virginia, I just happened to walking down the block, and AI pulled up on me. So salute to AI.
Charlamagne Tha God
Why the hell was you just randomly walking down a block in Virginia?
DJ Envy
Because when I was staying at the hotel, you walk about maybe five, ten blocks from this restaurant.
Charlamagne Tha God
You ain't say it like that, though. You make me like you going to the. Walking the streets of Virginia like you just gooned out out here. I'M just. I'm just walking the block. If you didn't he say that.
DJ Envy
If you took that. I didn't say nothing about goon out.
Charlamagne Tha God
I was walking. Let me rephrase that.
DJ Envy
I was strolling to the neighborhood restaurant, catch some brunch. And as I was walking back to my hotel, Allen Iverson pulled up to me and said, hey, what's up, nb? That sound better.
Charlamagne Tha God
That makes sense. Actually. The book comes out today. While we're talking about it. Okay. Today it's out Misunderstood. Misunderstood comes out today, October 7th.
DJ Envy
That's right.
Charlamagne Tha God
His memoir, Salute to AI. Absolutely.
DJ Envy
All right, well, let's get the show cracking. Havoc will be joining us this morning. We got a chance to kick with Havoc. Havoc, of course, from Mobb Deep. This is the last, I believe, Mobb Deep album. It's called Infinite. It's my. It's Havoc and Prodigy. They have Prodigy verses on there. Nas is on there a couple of times. So we're gonna be K with Havoc.
Charlamagne Tha God
For a little bit. Man, I'm mad I missed that. Man. They got a song. That was that new record they got out. That's so hard.
DJ Envy
Which one?
Charlamagne Tha God
It's a new record. It's br. It's off this. It's off the Infinite. The whole album is hard.
DJ Envy
So I don't know what you.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, I didn't hear the whole album.
DJ Envy
They sent it. The whole album is hard. It's. It's. And Prodigy. Prodigy sounds so good, man. We forget about all the beats that Havoc produced.
Charlamagne Tha God
I absolutely do not.
DJ Envy
It's funny, we was having a conversation. I was like, you know, it's weird to me that people don't ever put you in that conversation. One of the illest or best producers. And he was like, yeah, he feels the same. But if you look at his catalog, records he produced when he was up.
Charlamagne Tha God
Here, when Joey Badass was up here. And Joey Badass was talking about, you know, wanting to do like a. A 1990s. Well, I was saying he should do like a 1990 now album. And Havoc was one of the people.
DJ Envy
I said, oh, my goodness. You know, from Quiet Storm to Shook Ones to Godfather Part three to. There's so many of them. So we'll. We'll talk to Havoc in a little bit. But we got front page news when we come back. Mimi will be joining us, so don't go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody.
Jasmine
It's DJ Envy.
Havoc
Just hilarious.
DJ Envy
Charlamagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get some Front PA Now.
Charlamagne Tha God
I'm on the Night Football.
DJ Envy
Like we told you. The Jaguars beat the Chiefs 31 20.
Charlamagne Tha God
Dropping the clues bomb for the Jaguars. You know, I'm a Dallas Cowboy fan all day. I don't root for other teams. I just like to see the Kansas City Chiefs lose. I really, truly do. I mean, it calms my cold heart. Is it Taylor Swift? There's a lot of mayonnaise. A lot of mayonnaise in that potato salad. A lot of it.
DJ Envy
All right. Well, good morning, Mimi.
Mimi Brown
Good morning, Envy. Good morning, Charlamagne. How you doing this morning?
Havoc
Good morning.
Charlamagne Tha God
Good.
Mimi Brown
All right. So as a government shutdown drags into its second week, thousands of air traffic controllers are being told to keep working even though they are not getting paid. Their union says skipping a shift or calling out sick could mean getting fired. But call outs are already rising as frustration and financial strain are setting in. Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy, he stopped by Newark Airport yesterday delivering pizzas to air traffic controllers still on the job and admitting that pressure is mounting. Let's listen to what he had to say.
Charlamagne Tha God
And so now what they think about as they're controlling our airspace is how am I going to pay my mortgage? How do I make my car payment? I have a couple kids at home. How do I put food on the table? I'm working six days a week. Do I have to take a second job and drive Uber when I'm already exhausted from doing a job that's already stressful to think about how I can make extra money because the government may not provide me a paycheck? This shutdown has put way more stress on our controllers at a time when they're already working on equipment from the 1960s, 1980s, 1990s, we asked them to do their jobs on equipment that has not been state of the art.
DJ Envy
That's crazy.
Mimi Brown
That is really crazy. Equipment from the 60s, 80s and 90s. That leaves more questions and answers right there as well. But more than 11,000 FAA employees, roughly a quarter of the agency's workfor, have been furloughed, while 13,000 controllers are still required to report for duty to keep the planes moving safely. And for travelers, the ripple effects are starting to show. Longer TSA lines are being reported at several major airports as more agents do call out sick. And even minor staffing gaps are now causing major delays. Here in California, Burbank Airport had no traffic controllers on duty for nearly six hours yesterday, forcing flight diversions and delays. Governor Gavin Newsom, he vented about that on X, writing Burbank Airport has zero air traffic controllers from 4:15 to 10:00pm today because of your government shutdown. We're assuming he is talking about President Trump. Meanwhile, flight refund requests, consumer complaints, lost luggage claims are piling up because offices that handle that are closed. FAA inspectors have also been furloughed, meaning fewer routine checks on planes and repair. So just a growing reminder that the shutdown isn't just a Washington problem. It's touching Americans both on the ground and in the air.
Charlamagne Tha God
So, Mimi, imagine them saying there was no air traffic controllers in Burbank for six hours.
DJ Envy
That's crazy. But I wonder if all, you know, the TSA members, employees and all air traffic controllers just say, you know what, we're not coming to work Wednesday. Right. It would almost force, it would almost force to get things done a lot faster. Right. Because if nobody comes to work, that means there's no flights taking off. That means you can't go anywhere. That means there is no money. And I really think they care more about big business than the actual average people. So I wonder if that would force things to move a lot faster.
Charlamagne Tha God
I doubt it.
Mimi Brown
Yeah.
Caller/Rick
I don't know.
Mimi Brown
But I think that's why the Transportation, Transportation Secretary had that press conference yesterday because he was basically saying if you do that, we're going to fire you and we'll just find somebody else to take your place.
Lauren LaRosa
But you're not going to pay.
DJ Envy
But you want me to work, but you're not going to pay me.
Mimi Brown
Exactly, exactly. So you kind of got to pick.
Jasmine
One and I don't know, will want to apply for a job like that if they already not paying. So we are gonna find more people to work.
Mimi Brown
Yeah, well, you know, and the chaos in the skies, it's all tracing back to of course, the gridlock in Washington where lawmakers can't agree on how to reopen the government. Yesterday, Senate, Senate, Democrats, they once again blocked Republicans their so called clean funding bill. It's the fifth failed vote in just seven days. So that final count was 52 to 42. They are just short of the 60 votes that they needed to move forward. The bill already passed by the House would have kept the government running until late November. Democrats, of course, they're refusing to go along with a vote until the Affordable Care Act. Subsidies and tax credits, those are the tax credits that help millions of Americans afford their health insurance premiums which are set to expire at the end of the year. And now some Republicans are sounding the alarms. Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene, she said on X that while she's not backing the Democratic plan. She did urge her party to address the expiring Obamacare credits, warning that insurance premium for her own children will double if the credits expire. And so Americans, they are fed up. A new national poll finds 70% of voters oppose the shutdown. More than half blame Republicans. While most want Democrats honestly to just accept a short term deal to keep the government open, most people just want to get back to work. And perhaps the most telling about all of this is 62% believe that Republicans will ultimately win this showdown about the shutdown.
Charlamagne Tha God
I tell you one thing. On October 15, the 1.3 million members in the armed services are supposed to get paid. You let them miss that paycheck. Okay, you missed that paycheck. It's going. It might not be worth the political cost for either party. Wow.
Mimi Brown
Exactly. So we'll continue to watch that. All right, y'.
Havoc
All.
Mimi Brown
Well, coming up at 7, a popular app is rolling out a new feature today. And I'll tell you why. Some users say they feel like they are being watched.
Jasmine
Another one. Okay, Mimi. Okay, girl.
Mimi Brown
Another one.
DJ Envy
All right, everybody else, get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, phone lines are wide open. Again, 800-585-1051 is the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club.
Havoc
Wake up, wake up.
DJ Envy
Wake your ass. This is your time to get it off your chest. Whether you're mad or blessed, we want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club.
Charlamagne Tha God
Hello? Who's this?
Caller/Rick
Yo, this is Rick.
Charlamagne Tha God
How y' all doing today?
DJ Envy
What's up, Rick? Get it off your chest, Rick.
Charlamagne Tha God
Peace, Rick.
Caller/Rick
Yeah, I just wanted to give a little insight. I heard Charlemagne say, like, the armed services missed their payment. They actually passed a law not too long ago for the armed services in certain divisions of the government actually still get paid on government shutdowns, right?
Charlamagne Tha God
I didn't say that, but hope, brother. But I didn't say that, my brother. I said that y' all have a PayCheck scheduled on October 15th for the 1.3 million members in the armed services. And they're saying that that might convince legislators in the White House that missing that date won't be worth the political cost.
Caller/Rick
They're still going to get paid. That's what I'm saying. They passed a law back doing like Trump's first administration to where all the armed services still get paid.
Charlamagne Tha God
You talk about, you talking about the temporary bill that continues like, what is it called? I forgot.
Caller/Rick
No, no, that's Stop Gap legislation We're not talking about that. We're talking about an actual law, like, that was put into place and to, like, Envy's point, where, like, if the TSA was to call off, that's what actually put pressure on the first of the Trump administration in 2018 to get them back to work. Remember that? They had a big airport thing. A bunch of TSA agents was calling out sick and everything like that. And they got the shutdown done in, like, a week, man. So, like, yeah, they really do care about big business more than they care about the little guys. So, like I said, like, the army still get paid, Congress still get paid. They get free health care, man. It's the little guys like us who are making 20, 30 an hour, man, who premiums double. You know, I always tell people, though, it's expensive to be poor. You know, one thing can happen in your life, man, and he can set you back for months on end. But, you know, the government doesn't really care about that, man. But that was just my two cents. You guys have a great day.
DJ Envy
Thank you, brother.
Jasmine
You too.
DJ Envy
Hello? Who's this?
Caller/Rick
Hey, good morning, DJ Envy. Just hilarious, man.
DJ Envy
How y' all doing? What's your name, brother?
Caller/Rick
It's Adele. I'm gonna go quick. I know Trigger fingers got his hand next to the angle flat.
DJ Envy
Yeah.
Caller/Rick
But back in 2018, I was looking back to shut down, did some research, and first of all, there's 535 members of Congress, right? And because of 27th Amendment, they still get paid during this furlough, but they have the option to forego their payments. And the research shows that only six members have done that. And also what caused the shutdown to end in 2018 was PSA, because after that month and they weren't getting paid, they started calling the sick. They stopped coming in, and that was a big disaster. So they. They came to an agreement real quick. So my thing is I'm calling them back out this time around because we the people have power. If they stop coming to potential workers, stop going in or take a stand like Charlotte was saying about the veteran workers, I bet you they'll agree real quickly.
Charlamagne Tha God
I didn't say that. Envy said that. Well, listen, where are y' all getting this information that active duty still personnel are still getting paid?
Caller/Rick
I don't know about them, but TSA, they just stopped coming in 2018.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, TSA members started calling in sick. Like, a lot of them started calling us in because they weren't getting paid.
DJ Envy
That's what I was saying. You Know when it's regular people, a lot of times the government don't care. But I feel like if they gotta shut down them airports and shut down them planes and them flights, they'll fix things, right? Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need the event, hit us up now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. This is your time to get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club.
Jasmine
Hello?
DJ Envy
Who's this?
Caller/Rick
Hey, how you doing? What's going on, man? This is Terrence from Tibetan, Louisiana.
DJ Envy
Terrence, get it off your chest, brother.
Caller/Rick
Good morning, man. I wanted to shed a little light this morning, man, about the tragic accident that happened here in Louisiana.
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, man. Kyren Lacey, horrible. Horrible. Like, horrible.
Caller/Rick
Yeah, man. So. So what just happens, man? His lawyer just got on local news network and really got to tell his story, man. It shed light on this story about what really happened. And it was a total cover up from start to finish, man. Kyrie Lacey was behind that accident.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
Caller/Rick
You saw it?
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
Caller/Rick
I just feel like we're not getting enough. That's not getting enough national attention, man. That. That's a false release report.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah. You know, it's so funny, when I walked in the room this morning, I said, man, all the caping people doing for Diddy, talking about the judicial system did him dirty. It's like, no, that should be going to Kyron Lacey, because Kyren Lacey didn't do anything wrong. He didn't make no portraits whatsoever. He just got framed.
Caller/Rick
Correct. He got framed, man. And we just feel like here in the community, man, they're not. They're not shedding enough light on that.
DJ Envy
Yeah, I agree. And I believe the lawyer reached out in my dm. I actually sent them to Lauren's information so. So Lauren could speak with him.
Havoc
Yeah.
DJ Envy
But if he is listening or the family members are listening, we definitely would.
Charlamagne Tha God
Love to talk to you. Hell, yeah.
Caller/Rick
Oh, yeah. Hey, that's easy, man. I can get in touch with his mom or his dad and have them call you guys.
Charlamagne Tha God
That's.
Caller/Rick
That's easy.
DJ Envy
Oh, yeah. Well, hold on.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, all that energy y' all giving Diddy talking about, you know, the judge did Diddy wrong and the judicial system did Diddy wrong and they overcharged. No, they did that to Kyron Lacey. Diddy made poor choices that put himself in that situation. Kyren Lacey did nothing. Literally.
Jasmine
And he's not even here anymore.
Charlamagne Tha God
Not even here. He's dead. Committed suicide. Like, what are we talking about?
DJ Envy
Hello? Who's this?
Caller/Rick
J.R. wolford.
DJ Envy
Hey, good morning, brother. Get it off your chest.
Caller/Rick
Morning. DJ Envy Charlemagne of God. Just hilarious.
Jasmine
Hello.
Charlamagne Tha God
Hello.
Caller/Rick
Yes, I'm. I'm in need of a kidney transplant. And with everything that's going on with the government, I'm a little worried about that.
DJ Envy
Are you on the list for transplant?
Caller/Rick
Yeah, I'm on three list.
DJ Envy
Okay.
Caller/Rick
And I'm taking donations for my kidney transplant now.
Charlamagne Tha God
Can I ask you a question? What does the government shut down? Why did the government shut down? Impact whether or not you can get a kidney, Kidney transplant?
Caller/Rick
Medicaid. If you cut Medicare and Medicaid and patients are affected in that way.
Charlamagne Tha God
Got you.
DJ Envy
Yeah, I had a friend on the list, the same list that. That needed a kidney. It's been years, too.
Caller/Rick
It's been five years for me now.
DJ Envy
Yeah, it's been years.
Jasmine
It depends on why you need it.
DJ Envy
It depends on why you need it. And then also if it's something that you're doing to yourself, they want to make sure. If it's drugs or something, they want to make sure that you're in rehab and that they don't give you something where you're going to continue messing up your kidney. Yeah, that's why I asked. What was the reason?
Caller/Rick
Yeah.
DJ Envy
Kobe got me.
Caller/Rick
That's how my kidneys felt.
Charlamagne Tha God
Kobe got me.
DJ Envy
Damn, damn, damn. I'm so sorry, brother. Good luck, man.
Jasmine
Definitely.
Caller/Rick
Yes. I appreciate it. Can I do one more thing? If anybody like to donate, I'm on Kidney Need 69 on Instagram.
DJ Envy
Say it again.
Caller/Rick
Kidney Needs 69 on Instagram.
DJ Envy
All right, brother man.
Charlamagne Tha God
Folks have no idea. Thank you, brother. Folks have no idea how much this government shutdown is impacting working class people. Because everybody being a little bubbles, right? You and your little bubble of entertainment, you and your little bubble of this over here, but you're not talking to regular everyday people and realizing how it's impacting their everyday lives. This man said he's scared he's not gonna be able to get his kidney transplant.
DJ Envy
That's crazy. Damn. Well, get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. And if you are flying today and you see a TSA worker, just say hello, shake a hand, just say, we appreciate you. Just say thank you. Because a lot of them are not getting paid. And they're doing this because they're just trying to. To help and make sure that they be mad.
Charlamagne Tha God
I wouldn't say they'd be like, f your thoughts. And friends where the money at?
DJ Envy
Okay, well, you can't get money in a high five.
Charlamagne Tha God
Slip them something. They ain't getting paid.
DJ Envy
Something. I don't know if you can't do that, cuz they might get fired for taking that. But give something. Some food or something.
Charlamagne Tha God
Something like F y', all, right? Damn.
DJ Envy
Somebody say something nice to you and say f y' all back.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, man, F you. Thoughts and prayers. Yeah, man, give like give me where the money at.
Jasmine
And then when the go through and forget to empty his pockets.
DJ Envy
Now you.
Jasmine
Now I got to see you again, cuz. You got to give me something else. No.
Charlamagne Tha God
You know what, tsa, y' all should get back to stealing, okay? Please don't apply too much N man, tsa get back to stealing a bit. Y' all deserve it right now, man.
Jasmine
Y' all deserve to steal right now.
DJ Envy
We got the latest with Lauren coming up. What we talking about Lauren?
Lauren LaRosa
Yes, we going to be talking about LeBron. LeBron said he is making the the decision of all decision.
Charlamagne Tha God
Nobody got time for all that right now. LeBron. You see what's going on in the world, LeBron. Nobody got time for all of this foolishness.
Lauren LaRosa
The people is stressed, okay? We going to get into it.
Charlamagne Tha God
There's only one decision he can make. Retire and not retire. This is silly silliness all over again.
DJ Envy
He's not leaving. So like you said, it's probably just.
Charlamagne Tha God
And I hope he don't use this opportunity to sell something. If he come out, he's like, I'm selling a new with y'. All This a new sneaker. If he. If he playing with people like this during a time like this, we don't want to hear it. No. Oh, my God.
DJ Envy
We'll talk about it when we come back. It's the Breakfast Club. It's the Breakfast logo. Morning. The Breakfast Club.
Jasmine
Lauren becoming a straight face.
DJ Envy
She gets him from somebody that knows somebody.
Charlamagne Tha God
Details.
Lauren LaRosa
I'm the home girl that knows a little bit about everything.
Charlamagne Tha God
She be having the late to start the Latest with Lauren LaRosa. Sometimes you have facts. Sometimes you have details. Sometimes you have a little bit of everything. Well, it's the latest on the breakfast club.
Lauren LaRosa
So LeBron James have the people in a frenzy right now. So yesterday on his Instagram, LeBron posted a video of him walking in and sitting down recreating the big Miami announcement moment. And the caption of the video. He doesn't say anything. The caption of the video says the decision of all decisions. October 7th, 12:00pm Eastern Standard Time. Hashtag the second decision.
Charlamagne Tha God
It's not the decision of all decisions because there's only one decision he could be making. Like, you know, he's going to announce his retirement. This is his last year. A fair farewell tour, which he deserves.
DJ Envy
I think so.
Lauren LaRosa
Well, yes, I hope so. So that post made some people think that.
DJ Envy
Why would you hope so?
Charlamagne Tha God
Because I hope you're not doing all this to promote a sneaky decision. McDonald's chicken sandwich sandwich.
DJ Envy
The fact that he was actually. If he's ret. Retires. I mean, because he's still putting up numbers.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah. Last week he was. They talked about. Someone had asked him during the media days about retirement. He said he downplayed it. He said, no, he's looking forward, you know, to how this year plays out. Didn't really answer the question. You know, the thing he does when he's asked about that. But October 7th and 8th are also Amazon Prime. October, Amazon prime days. LeBron has a major partnership with Amazon Prime. So a lot of fans think this is either a retirement announcement or it's just a scare and it's going to be an ad to promote something that he's done with Amazon Prime.
Charlamagne Tha God
Why would him retire and be a scare? It's not a scare.
DJ Envy
This is.
Charlamagne Tha God
He's 40 years old to be 41 in December. This is his 23rd season.
DJ Envy
I don't think he's scared. I don't think he's retiring.
Lauren LaRosa
The fans don't want to see it. Now, I will say yesterday, when he posted this, it sparked the ticket sales for the Lakers final home game for the season. Yeah. So the Lakers play utah Jazz on April 12th at the Crypto arena in LA. And before this post, tickets were starting around $82. Right after the post, they spiked to $580 a ticket. According to ESPN, if this is an.
Charlamagne Tha God
Amazon prime promo, this would be so whack.
DJ Envy
Yeah, I don't think he's retiring.
Havoc
I really don't.
DJ Envy
He's still averaging 23, 24 points. I don't think he's gonna retire. Just. I don't think so. I think it's probably his. Didn't his new sneaker just come out? Or he just took a picture with his new sneakers?
Lauren LaRosa
He does have the sneakers because remember, he brought them on Consonant Stream, gifted them there. But in today and tomorrow are also Amazon prime day, so we'll have to see.
Jasmine
He might drop the shoe on Amazon Prime.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah, I mean, his prime partnership, you know, he has his grooming brand and they do a lot of his products over there. So I know.
Charlamagne Tha God
Don't.
Lauren LaRosa
We don't know. But this is what people are speculating. They're in his comments, really upset, though. Like, people are mad. Like, why are you doing this to us? What's going on? People are talking about the fact that it might be prime.
DJ Envy
Everybody's touring.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah. Everybody's guessing. And even, like, outlets are trying to.
Charlamagne Tha God
Figure out, but if it is a. Some type of promo for something. Right. You're stepping on your own retirement rollout. Because LeBron deserves all the things he deserves to. Farewell to him. He's one of the greatest basketball players of all time. One of the greatest athletes of all time. So, you know, he deserves everything. So he shouldn't be so dramatic about it, I guess, and step on his own rollout when he finally does retire.
DJ Envy
But if he retires two years from now, nobody's gonna be like, no, we.
Charlamagne Tha God
Remember what you did. Two years. Depends how he does it.
DJ Envy
They still gonna have love for him. It's kind of like when Snoop. Remember when Snoop did the thing. I'm not smoking anymore.
Lauren LaRosa
Yes. That messed me up.
Charlamagne Tha God
All the Nazis came through.
DJ Envy
All the niggas came through.
Charlamagne Tha God
I'm not smoking anymore.
Jasmine
I know, right? And then when he got up, he was like, what? Yeah. All right. Y' all thought that was for real.
Charlamagne Tha God
I love Snoop, but Snoop not smoking anym. Moore is not the equivalent to LeBron James, one of the greatest athletes of all time, announcing his retirement.
DJ Envy
I don't think you're retiring.
Lauren LaRosa
Well, we'll have to wait and see. So I'll be tuned in at 12 to see what happens.
Charlamagne Tha God
Perfect ending for LeBron. If I, like. And I said this earlier, like, LeBron, go back to Cleveland. Right. Especially this year would have been perfect. He was a free agent. Go back to Cleveland. It's an easier path to the NBA Finals because the east is wide open. Jason Tatum was hurt for the Celtics. Halliburton hurt for paces. Miles Turner gone for the paces. The only competition in the east is the Knicks. You end up in the finals again, right? Lose. Yeah.
DJ Envy
Cleveland and next. The only ones in East.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah. But you end up in the finals again, lose. Perfect storybook ending for LeBron, greatest Eastern Conference finals champion of all time.
DJ Envy
Why you say that, man?
Lauren LaRosa
Because he is amazing.
Charlamagne Tha God
He's the greatest. He's the greatest. He's a conference final champion of all time. I mean, he's the conference finals. He got 10, 11, something like crazy like that.
Havoc
Yep.
DJ Envy
There.
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, maybe. Well, you know what? Then maybe number two, because Bill Russell got A little. I gotta look at what. How many he got that as he still would be the greatest Eastern Conference finals champion of all time.
DJ Envy
LeBron maybe one of the greatest players.
Charlamagne Tha God
Of all time, but definitely the greatest Eastern Conference finals champion.
DJ Envy
Jesus Christ. He'd be one of the greatest players of all time.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes.
DJ Envy
Between him.
Lauren LaRosa
Well, I have more sports news here. Very important as well, because Taylor Swift.
DJ Envy
Oh, my goodness.
Lauren LaRosa
Sat down with Fallon last night, and she addressed the super bowl rumors, and she talks about conversations she's had with Jay Z. Let's take a listen.
Charlamagne Tha God
You didn't turn down the super bowl because of performance footage?
Mimi Brown
No.
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay.
Lauren LaRosa
Like, Jay Z has always been very good to me.
Mimi Brown
Our teams are really close.
Lauren LaRosa
Like, it's like they sometimes will call and say, how does she feel about. And that's not like, an official offer.
Mimi Brown
Or an official or like, a conference room conversation.
Charlamagne Tha God
Just a feeling.
Mimi Brown
Yeah, the kids are really close.
Lauren LaRosa
How does she feel about it in general? And we've been.
Mimi Brown
We're always able to, like, tell him.
Lauren LaRosa
The truth, which is that, like, I am in love with a guy who does that on that actual field. Like, that is violent chess. That is Gladiators without swords.
Mimi Brown
The whole season, I am locked in.
Lauren LaRosa
On what that man is doing on the field. Can you imagine if, like, he's out.
Mimi Brown
There every single week, like, putting his.
Lauren LaRosa
Life on the line doing this very dangerous sport?
Mimi Brown
And I'm like, I wonder what my choreo should be. I think we should do two verses.
Lauren LaRosa
Of Shake it off into blank space into. And this has nothing to do with Travis. He would love for me to do it. I'm just too locked in.
Jasmine
I love that.
Lauren LaRosa
I loved it, too.
Jasmine
I love that. Yeah.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah. So no Taylor Swift at the super bowl, guys.
Jasmine
And that is why.
Charlamagne Tha God
Because I ain't listening.
DJ Envy
She loves her boyfriend, who. Her fiance that plays football. I can't think about shaking off when I'm talking about my fiance hurting himself. I can't think about Shake it Off. When he's thinking about risking his life out there.
Charlamagne Tha God
He's not going to be there.
Lauren LaRosa
Taylor y. C. Never got a real offer. She said, too.
DJ Envy
Oh, but he said they asked her, how you feel?
Lauren LaRosa
And she said, but that ain't a real. Like, we want you to come. That's like checking the temperature real quick. Like, yo, let me see what's happening. If Jay Z wanted Taylor Swift to come, he would be like, here, offer. Let's do it. He ain't offer yet nothing either.
Charlamagne Tha God
Did she really sell 2.7 million albums in a Day.
Lauren LaRosa
First of all, they talk. It was over. No, in a day. Yeah. Yes, it. But no, I don't know about the day. I know in the first week was over 3 million.
Charlamagne Tha God
No, I saw something that said 2.7 in a day. I was like, how is that even possible?
DJ Envy
She keeping some lights on one these labels. She's keeping their lights on.
Lauren LaRosa
She is, yeah. So we have some more in the next hour. Yes. 2.7 million copies in the first day of release, according to the Hollywood Reporter.
Charlamagne Tha God
Don't act all excited because you didn't even talk about it on Friday.
Lauren LaRosa
I. I didn't. I didn't. We talking about it. We talked about it today. Today is what she didn't listen to that.
Charlamagne Tha God
She didn't.
DJ Envy
She a fake. First of all, name three songs.
Lauren LaRosa
I'm not doing this with y'. All. Every single time we bring up this woman. The latest with Lauren, the rose is ending. Where are we going to next? Envy?
DJ Envy
All right, we got front page news. Mimi will be joining us and then Havoc from Mobb Deep will be in the building. Of course, Mob Deep album Infinite comes out this Friday. And we'll talk to have. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club.
Charlamagne Tha God
Your mornings will never be the same.
DJ Envy
Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get back in some front page news now. On Monday Night Football, the Jaguars beat the Chiefs 31 to 28.
Charlamagne Tha God
Good job, Jaguars. Not no Jaguars fan. I'm a Dallas Cowboy fan, but I just like to see the Kansas City Chiefs look loose. Why?
DJ Envy
Why so much hate for the Chiefs?
Charlamagne Tha God
There's a lot of mayonnaise and app potato salad, you know what I'm saying? With a sprinkle of raisins. Was Taylor Swift at the game last night? I heard she was at the game last night.
DJ Envy
I seen Duvall poster, but he might have been playing.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, I don't know. If she was really there, I don't think she would go to Jacksonville. Sold 3 million records.
DJ Envy
Yes. No, in like one week, right? A week and a half.
Charlamagne Tha God
In a day. He said like 2.5 million in a day.
Jasmine
When she just dropped the album or something.
DJ Envy
Yes, Roddy.
Jasmine
Oh, I didn't even know that up.
DJ Envy
She a do like no press or nothing like that, right?
Jasmine
Never.
Charlamagne Tha God
Her boyfriend podcast.
DJ Envy
That's it.
Jasmine
Damn.
DJ Envy
Okay, she called in the Elvis. I think she did call in the Elvis show. Good morning, Mimi.
Mimi Brown
Good morning, Envy. Hi, Jess.
Jasmine
Hey, girl.
Mimi Brown
Good morning, Charlemagne. All right, so we start this hour in the Oval Office, where President Donald Trump made news on two fronts yesterday. Weighing in on the unrest in U.S. cities and the high profile case of Ghislaine Maxwell as Jeffrey Epstein's long associate. So Trump said that he is weighing whether or not to use the Insurrection Act, a centuries old law that allows presidents to deploy the military for domestic law enforcement. Now, if he were to invoke the law, it would allow him to bypass the judges and governors who've been blocking his troop deployments into several U.S. cities. Let's listen to what he had to say about that.
Havoc
But we have an Insurrection act for a reason. If I had to enact it, I'd do that. If people were being killed and, and courts were holding us up, or governors or mayors were holding us up, sure, I do that. I mean, I want to make sure that people aren't killed. We have to make sure that our cities are safe.
Charlamagne Tha God
Why didn't he, why didn't he use the Insurrection act during the actual insurrection on January 6, 2021?
Mimi Brown
Exactly. That's the question everybody's been asking, actually. So the Insurrection act of 1807, it hasn't been used since 1992, since the Los Angeles riots. Now, Trump said he would consider invoking it if state and local officials continue to block his plans to send in the National Guard to cities like Portland and Chicago, which we've been talking about. And his ally, Steve Bannon is encouraging him to do so, saying it's time to, quote, put governors like Gavin Newsom and J.B. pritzker in their place. But this wasn't the only unrest making headlines yesterday in the Oval Office. During that same appearance, Trump was asked whether he'd consider pardoning Ghislaine Maxwell after the Supreme Court court rejected her final appeal. Let's listen to what he had to say about that.
DJ Envy
Who are we talking about? You know, I haven't heard the name in so long.
Charlamagne Tha God
I can say this that I'd have.
Havoc
To take a look at it. I would have to take a look. Did they reject that she wanted to.
Charlamagne Tha God
Appeal her conviction and what happened?
Lauren LaRosa
They were not going to hear her appeal.
DJ Envy
I see.
Havoc
Well, I'll take a look at it. I'll speak to, I will speak to the doj.
DJ Envy
I wouldn't consider it or not consider.
Havoc
I don't know anything about it.
Caller/Rick
It.
Havoc
I, I have, a lot of people.
Charlamagne Tha God
Have asked me for pardons.
Havoc
I call him. Puff Daddy has asked me for a pardon.
Charlamagne Tha God
But she was convicted of child sex trafficking. Yeah, I mean, I'm gonna have to.
Caller/Rick
Take A look at it.
Havoc
I have to ask doj.
DJ Envy
I'm part of both of them.
Charlamagne Tha God
But listen, he is really the best at double talk, man. He. He will. He can literally sit in front of anybody and tell them exactly what he wants, what they want to hear. He literally goes, I haven't. He said, I'm not going to consider it, but I haven't considered it. I don't know whether to consider it, but I don't know if I'm going to consider it.
DJ Envy
Like what? I don't even know the story.
Charlamagne Tha God
I don't even know the story.
Jasmine
Right.
DJ Envy
He gonna part of both of them, I'm telling you.
Charlamagne Tha God
I don't think so. Well, listen, there's absolutely zero reason to pardon a woman who is in federal prison for helping Jeffrey Epstein exploit underage girls. If Donald Trump pardons her, that's the President of the United States publicly endorsing sex crimes against children, period. And if that was to happen, everyone, including his base, should never stop talking about the Epstein files. But it also shows people that President Trump doesn't take sexual exploitation of minors seriously. And the fact that he's even flirting with pardoning her shows he doesn't take it seriously.
DJ Envy
If not, he gonna point her on the day he about to leave, but I think he gonna pardon her.
Charlamagne Tha God
You mean the day he about to leave. That's 43 years.
DJ Envy
Well, he's gonna point in three years.
Charlamagne Tha God
I don't believe that.
Mimi Brown
I mean, she is. She was sentenced to 20 years in prison, so it's very possible, envy, that she could definitely get a pardon in three years, because, you know, 20. So, you know, we'll see. But you're right, Charlemagne, because he was. He was a sentence. She was a sentence for abusing or helping to abuse young girls. So. So, you know, we'll see what happens. But, you know, this is not the first time that Trump has opened that door to giving her a pardon.
Charlamagne Tha God
So if you're trying to make people forget about the Epstein files, pardoning Jerlaine Maxwell is not going to help with that. In no way, shape, or form at all.
Mimi Brown
All right, well, after a week filled with headlines about power and control, there's another battle over who gets to decide what we see, what we learn, and what we read. So it is Banned Books Week, which means schools and libraries across. Across the country are shining a light, a light on stories that are being silen. According to PEN America, nearly 7,000 book bans were enacted last year, most of them in Florida, Texas, and Tennessee. And so when you look at what books are making this list? You might be surprised. These are among the top 10 most banned books in America. And Charlemagne, we're going to start with one that is your favorite. I'm talking about Judy Bloom's forever classic. Yes, that is on the banned books list. It's. They said that it is. It's banned for explicit content.
Charlamagne Tha God
So. But that's. That's why I be saying when it comes to, like, stuff like brand safety, like, you know, brand safety is subjective. That's why, you know, advertisers need to move away from brand safety, because why the hell is Judy Bloom forever on the band books list? Who. Who says Judy Bloom forever isn't safe?
Jasmine
Well, what is. What. What is the book about?
Lauren LaRosa
Why is it on this of age.
Mimi Brown
Story about first love, you know, and it was written all the way back in 1975. Jess. So. So it's been literally like 50, 50 years and they're still challenging this book.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, it's just about teenage sexuality that, like, it's. The. The show is based off Judy Bloom's fellow.
Jasmine
Okay, so it's a book about that. Okay. They bandit.
Havoc
Yep.
Mimi Brown
Polls show that most Americans disagree with these bands. 71% say that they oppose books being removed from schools and libraries. And if you want to see a full list, you can go to pen.org and so also, you guys, have you ever talked about something near your phone and then five minutes later, you saw an ad for it on Instagram?
Jasmine
Listen, I could be thinking about something and see it. No, not even just talking. When you think about something, it pops up on your phone.
Mimi Brown
Yes, that is what everyone is saying. And so Instagram CEO, he put out a video yesterday, and this is what he had to say. Let's take a listen.
Charlamagne Tha God
We do not listen to you. We do not use the phone's microphone to eavesdrop on you. Now, first of all, if we did, it would be a gross violation of privacy. You would drain your phone's battery and you would notice, and you would actually see a little light on the top of the screen letting you know that the microphone was on.
Jasmine
Yeah. So he lying. I don't care. I don't care what nobody say. He's lying. Yes, y' all are listening. Those front cameras be on. Y' all watching. I don't care. It's been like that for years. There's no way. What other explanation would we have to see exactly what we've been talking about and thinking about five minutes later?
Charlamagne Tha God
So, you know, they watching. Do you put on a show or you just leave.
Jasmine
I perform every day, so. Performing every day?
Mimi Brown
No, I'm with you, Jess. But starting today, Instagram will begin notifying users about an AI powered feature that's going to shape what shows up in your feed, from ads to suggested photos. So this new tool will start using your chat activity, your likes, your search behavior to personalize your recommendations even more. So, as we just heard, Instagram says they are not eavesdropping. They say it is your algorithm. They say they partner with advertisers who share data about the sites that you visit, the videos that you watch, and the posts that you engage with. So in other words, if you click on a shoe ad or you follow a fitness page, expect to see more of that. But like you just said, a lot of people are not convinced, especially with this new AI assistant that's rolling out. It's going to be be tracking your preferences. So it's just being rolled out today. But by December 16, the idea is that Instagram will be able to maybe watch the chats in your dm and your discovery page will look a lot like what you've been writing, videos you've been sending friends, all of those different things.
Jasmine
That's even weird. Like, that's even worse, actually. So his statement was definitely unnecessary. I don't even need it.
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, yeah, I will say there's algorithms that make me not even want to be on my phone anymore. And the reason I say that is because the beauty. The beauty of social media used to be discovering all of these different things.
DJ Envy
Right?
Charlamagne Tha God
But if you're just sending me a bunch of UFO videos because I watch UFO videos, I get bored.
Jasmine
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Mimi Brown
All right, y'.
Charlamagne Tha God
All.
Mimi Brown
Well, that is your front page news. I'm Mimi Brown. Follow me at Mimi Brown tv. For more stories, follow Black Information Network and download the iHeartRadio app or visit binnews.com.
DJ Envy
All right, thank you, Mimi.
Mimi Brown
Mimi, thank you.
Lauren LaRosa
Bye.
DJ Envy
All right, when we come back, we have Havoc from Mobb Deep. We're talking about Mobb Deep's last album, Infinite. All right, it comes out this week and we're gonna talk to Havoc all about it. So don't go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody.
Lauren LaRosa
It's DJ Envy.
DJ Envy
Just hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Lola Rose is here as well. We got a special guest in the building. We have Havoc here. Havoc. What's up, brother?
Havoc
What's going on?
DJ Envy
How you feeling?
Havoc
Real good, real good.
DJ Envy
Havoc from Mobb Deep, of course, New Album. Album Infinite, out on this Friday.
Havoc
That's right.
DJ Envy
How did you put this album together?
Havoc
Oh, man, it was. It was a long time in the making because, you know, after the untimely death of Prodigy, you know what I mean, it was something that I wanted to do, but it took me a minute because, you know, the family was in the grieving process, but to make a long story short, linked up with Alc Alchemist, and we knew we had to start. You know what I mean? Start the album. So flew out there. I had a couple of songs already. You know what I'm saying? Some verses from Prodigy's family, and Alchemist had a ton of verses already, so we just started putting it together and just breaking it down.
Lauren LaRosa
How did you pick which verses? Like, when you're going through Prodigy, you know, verses that we've never heard.
Havoc
Right.
Lauren LaRosa
How you pick which ones? Because we were anticipating hearing it.
Havoc
Right, right. I mean, it was kind of hard because, I mean, to me, you know what I'm saying, all Prodigy verses is dope. You know what I mean? So it was hard, I mean, because we ended up with, like, what, 25 songs in a. You know, ended up with 15, but I don't know, you know, just the best ones, you know, I mean, out of Prodigies versus if. If I could pick. It's really hard, though.
DJ Envy
Now, were any of these songs done already from y' all already or these were all you had to get every new verses from? You know, whether his. His daughter. I see his daughter raps his family or Alchemist?
Havoc
I mean, you know, I thought that I was getting most of the verses was, like, unheard verses, but, like, one of them was, like, you know, released like, 14 years ago, so. So, you know what I'm saying, we took. Wipe the dust off and, you know, rocked with the songs or whatever. But most of them is just verses that nobody never heard before. Especially, you know, I'm saying some. Some that Al has, like, it's, like, crazy versus, like, for real. But, you know, I was giving some verses from the family, and I just. You know, technology. You could just take a verse. If it's like 92 bpms, you could put it down to 88, or you can speed it up to 100. So it's like, kind of seemingly.
DJ Envy
How was the. The family were doing this? Did the family want a new Mob Deep album out? Were they cool with it or they were like.
Havoc
Yeah, they was cool with it. They was cool with it, but they just wanted to make sure that they was part of the process and that they wasn't left out. So, you know, the first time that we started working on the album, we had Prodigy's daughter there, you know what I'm saying, and getting her blessings. And she was, you know, she was kind of got a little emotional when she was hearing her father, you know what I'm saying? As me, and I was getting emotional. Who listening to Prodigy talk like, you know, acapella talk about, yo, I see you on the other side and you know I love you. It's crazy.
DJ Envy
How was your relationship with before he passed?
Havoc
It was actually. I feel like I got my friend back, you know what I mean? Because right before he passed, like real talk, we were shopping at Whole Foods, you know, trying to get on a healthy path. And he. After we did that, he knocked on my hotel door like, he never comes to my room. Came to my room. And we was just kicking it, like, just trying to go down a healthy journey. Cause, you know, we had had, you know, a little dust up before that.
DJ Envy
What was that dust up for? Cause I always would say, like, Mobb Deep is that one crew. I'm like, them, they are never like, they just so from the same area. They didn't been through beefs and this and that and problems with money. Like, they didn't been through it all. So I figured that y' all were that one group that was like, nah. But y' all had a little situation.
Havoc
At one point, I just say this, like, when it come to alcohol, just stay away from social media. You know what I'm saying? Just. Just leave that alone. Some things, like brothers go through things, but that's supposed to be behind the scenes. You feel me? So it was just built up frustration and me taking the social media, like, I wasn't taught to go to social media and air out my differences. So that's something that I did. And Prodigy kept it, like, real classy. Like, with it, he was, you know what I'm saying, a class general with it. He didn't even engage in that little dust up. But, you know, it was a little strain on the relationship. We broke up for like a year, then we came back together, toured, and then slowly but surely just kept building that brotherhood back.
DJ Envy
And after that breakup, how did y' all get back together? Like, what was that conversation? Who reached out first or who put y' all together?
Havoc
Because we both got friends in common, right? So it wasn't like, yo, okay, today y' all gonna meet up. It was like that gradual, gradual, graduate, graduate. And then we just end up in the studio together, you know what I'm saying? And it was like nothing ever happened.
Charlamagne Tha God
Right.
Havoc
Like, the beat is up and we just like. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So we gonna do X, Y and Z, and you know what I mean? But we did get a chance to kind of like, talk, you know? You know, I knew him since I was 15, you know what I'm saying? So that was like my brother. Brother, for real, you know what I'm saying? And it was just crazy when he passed, how close we was getting before that.
DJ Envy
And y' all were in Vegas when he passed, right?
Havoc
Yeah, we was in Vegas. We had just did one of those shows. I think Ice T be throwing those tours with. With a lot of the old school artists or whatever. Nori was there, Raekwon a ghost, and he wasn't feeling well. And, you know, I just thought it was just like one of those regular sickle cell crisis, and he'll, you know, be back home in New York.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah, is there. Because I know that this is you working with Mass Appeal.
Havoc
Yeah.
Lauren LaRosa
To drop this. Is there anything Just because this is also. People are looking at this as like, a comeback project or like a return project, but it's also a tribute as well.
Havoc
Right.
Lauren LaRosa
Is there anything when people are listening to the. The music from Prodigy that we haven't heard? Like, when you were putting together and producing all of this, like, what was the message you wanted his fans to get from him in hearing him again?
Havoc
Well, you know, I. I don't think that it was so much of me, like, wanting a message to be put out there about Prodigy. The fans know what they wanted, you know what I mean? Like, I. I'm constantly getting harassed by the fans. Like, yo, when you putting out that Mom Deep album, I mean, look, I don't got no control over that, you know what I'm saying? Like, I don't own Prodigy versus So it was a process, you know what I mean? But, you know, I hope that, you know, the supporters get from it. Like, yo, you know, P was one of the illest MCs out there, and I think that, you know, he has some unfinished business.
Lauren LaRosa
Was there. What was the pressure like, for you, if any? Cause this been, what, since 2014, since.
DJ Envy
When you dropped your project?
Havoc
Yeah, the pressure was crazy, you know what I'm saying? Cause of course, you know, the music landscape been changed, you know what I'm saying? Omar Deep. But. But we stay in our lane, you know what I mean? And I just kind of like, that's All I wanted to do is just stay in our lane. I try to go above and beyond and trying to sound like I'm doing some drill music or something like that, you know what I mean? I just wanted to stay Mob Deep.
DJ Envy
Now, you did this deal with Nas's Mass Appeal, she just mentioned.
Havoc
Yeah.
DJ Envy
How involved was Nas with this project? And why did y' all decide to sign with the Nas and do the collaboration with Mass Appeal?
Havoc
Nas kind of like took the hands off approach, you know what I mean? We trusted Nas, you know what I mean? We know him, of course, obviously, since the beginning, you know, I mean, from the top. And he in position right now, you know what I mean? So we, like, we. Tons of people would have did the Mob Deep album, you know what I mean? But at the end of the day, it was like, who. Who do we trust? I trust Nas, you know what I mean? I'm like, okay, he over there at Mass Appeal. We sat with them. And it wasn't about the money. It's just more like who would do justice to the project, you know what I mean? And we trusted Nas for that. And, you know, he took a hands off approach, but when it was time to, you know, give a little bit of critique, he gave it.
DJ Envy
He did two verses on it as well.
Havoc
Three.
DJ Envy
Three verses on it?
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
Havoc
I mean, three verses for Nas.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
Havoc
You know what I'm saying? I think that's a good way to go out, you know what I mean? On the Mall Deep album, that was cool, you know, featuring her, Georgia Smith, you know, two phenomenal artists, and Porter Henny.
DJ Envy
A lot of your stories have been going viral in the last couple of days, right? Of course, the park stories always go viral. The Jay Z stories go viral. But the mind frame back then, when you felt like the west coast was taking a stab at the east, right? And y' all said, nah, this can't happen. Break that down. Because y' all were probably one of the first to jump out the window and be like, we riding all day long. And. And how difficult was it when y' all were touring and going to these markets and seeing these people? And did you ever run into any of the people that you. You shot at on it? I mean, on. On record, I should say, yo, check it out.
Havoc
Like, when you in places like Minneapolis and you see people throwing up gang signs and holding up Tupac posters, you don't even know if you're gonna make it out of there. You understand what I'm saying?
Charlamagne Tha God
So that's that.
Havoc
You know what I Mean, never mind going to the west coast, you know what I'm saying? But, you know, back in those days, we was in our 20s, you know what I'm saying? We invincible. We like what we got. Beef is on. I'm surprised more artists in New York didn't come out swinging singing, you understand what I'm saying? This is nyc. And, yeah, we love our west coast brethrens, for sure. But we gonna let you know, if you clap at us, we're gonna clap back, you know what I'm saying? You know, a couple of artists came representing New York, but not in a way where we, like, yo, y' all kick it down the buildings. Like, nah, you know what I'm saying? We're not letting you do that. But it was. It was. It was a test, you know what I'm saying? Because it was. It was serious back then. People was getting shot and things of that nature. But we came out.
Charlamagne Tha God
We.
Havoc
We survived it.
DJ Envy
And I never ran into anybody on the West Coast. Y' all never ran into a PAC back in the day? Nobody.
Havoc
Nah. And it's not like we was hiding, you understand what I'm saying? Like, we went to. We was in la. We had to be in la, you know, to promote the project. But he passed, you know, like, when the Beef was about to be on, we came out with a project that's. We was about to hell on earth. And he got shot, you know what I'm saying? That kind of just made everything like.
DJ Envy
And y' all even switch singles because that. They said the single was la la.
Charlamagne Tha God
Right?
DJ Envy
He got killed or shot, right?
Havoc
Because. No, it was Drop A Gem on Him.
DJ Envy
Drop a Gem on Him.
Havoc
It was Drop A Gem on Him. We put that out and it was. It was. It was. It was going viral, so to speak, for back then, you know what I mean? But then he got shot, and it's like, yo, son, let's pull the record. Like, me and Pete, like, yo, let's pull it. Not even the label saying that. And we pulled the record. And then eventually he definitely passed away. So it was like, damn. But we put it on the album.
Lauren LaRosa
And pulling the record, I mean, I know it's common sense to be like, okay, you pulling it, because now things are, like, so serious. But in that moment when y' all made that decision, the conversations, like, I think a lot of people hear these stories too. And it just sounds like it's like kind of like almost like a folktale to us. But you were like, in that moment, like, what's the feeling of, like, is it okay we want to pull it? Because we just don't even want to be involved in this anymore, even though you already there. Or is it, like, out of respect? Like, what's the real?
Havoc
Like, like, for real, for real?
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah.
DJ Envy
Like, why.
Lauren LaRosa
Why pull it? Because at that point, y' all are already, like, we hear we doing this. Like, we poking out our chest.
Havoc
Look, at the end of the day, he was a brother. He was our brother. Like, we might have beef with him and all of that, but we don't wish death on nobody. You understand what I'm saying? And we not that thirsty, like, to be like, whatever he did, like, keep it moving. Like, that would have been bad taste anyway. You know what I'm saying? It would have been tasteless. So we just was like, nah, that's. Let's pull it. You know what I mean?
DJ Envy
Your relationship with Big was not the best. What you mean, was it. Was it good? Because I. I thought the relationship wasn't necessarily the greatest. You and B I G. Oh, for real?
Havoc
Me, Me and B I G, we got the same birthday.
DJ Envy
Oh, I didn't know that. Did y' all ever have conversations the same. Because y' all were both getting shot at like crazy. Did y' all ever have conversations like, let's do this together right now?
Havoc
Unfortunately, that's another one that passed away so early. You understand what I'm saying? Saying, because, you know, Puff said, yo, come to the studio. I need you to do some music with Big. I didn't even know the locks gonna be on the song Last Days. So I'm in there doing that. He in another room because I guess he was recording like crazy back then, you know? You know what I mean? So we never got a chance to really have a conversation. We went on tour together. You know what I'm saying? The last memories I have a Big is being in Ohio and we supposed to go on. But Big was like, f that I'm going on before y'. All. Cause they spraying mace in the crowd, like. Like. Like, you know, like, the gang members is wilder. I didn't even know Ohio had gangs like that. But those are the memories I have with him. So we didn't get a chance to, like, really kick it, kick it. But I think if he had he lived longer, we'd have probably been partying together, you know what I'm saying? Same birthday. Gemini, too.
Lauren LaRosa
How did watching, you know, the death of Tupac and then of Biggie change how you felt about just being an artist at the time? Like, Were you scared?
DJ Envy
But did it change because y' all ain't stopped beefing? Y' all kept going. Y' all never stop.
Havoc
Nah, you know what? To be honest with you, it was like. I felt it was mad disrespectful. You understand what I'm saying? For, like, it's like, no. Like, you just killing artists. Like, y' all just. You know what I'm saying? I understand. You know what I'm saying? Artists as human beings, but it's like, no respect for the artist. Like, y' all just murking the artist. So that had me super concerned. Like, you know, I'm like, wow. Like, it's. You know, you already got your concerns when you going on tour, making sure you safe. But now just. People just get out of here. Like, bye. You going. You. Nah, that was crazy.
DJ Envy
I always tell everybody if we have a hip hop conversation, my favorite beat, Heaven, I think I told you before, is shook ones, right? It's just when you think of hip hop, there's nothing that out. Hip hop, Shook ones, just. Just a raw, just uncut. It doesn't sound like it's ever filtered.
Havoc
It was.
DJ Envy
Just. Doesn't feel like it's never mixed. It's. And it just feels like that. But I also feel like when. A lot of times when they talk about some of the greatest producers in this industry and in the game, they don't mention you, right? How does that make you feel? Cause they'll mention the Dre's. They'll mention so many other people. But I never. A lot of times I don't hear havoc.
Havoc
I mean, you know, it could get frustrating. You know what I'm saying? It get frustrating when your name is not being mentioned, when you feel like it should be mentioned. But at the same time, we never got nominated for Grammys. And I'm sure we had albums that was platinum and gold during the time when other artists were platinum gold and that, you know, and we never got nominated. So I just feel like it's in the same vein. But you know what? My peers. You know what I'm saying? When I see them, like, I just seen Dr. Dre the other day. He like, yo, you inspired me. And I'm looking at him like. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, you inspired me, but I feel him. I understand what he's saying. Cause we all inspire each other. So things like that kind of negate the frustration I feel of not being mentioned. Because I could see somebody like Dr. J, and they be like, yo, son, like, you know what I mean? That's all I be needing.
DJ Envy
That's all you need. Same thing with Prodigy. With lyrics, though. I think a lot of people don't necessarily understand how nice he was lyrically. And he doesn't get into a lot of those conversations as well either.
Havoc
He don't. But then you have somebody like Jay Z, if you ask him a question about Prodigy, he'd be like, prodigy was one of those ones. Ones. You understand what I'm saying? So when people don't involve them in the conversation, but they rapper's favorite rapper is screaming, they like not screaming their name, but giving them the credit. I think sometimes that's. That's the just dude sometimes. And then eventually the. The generations that's going to come after us when they start doing a little investigation like we used to do with the. Maybe not y', all because they're a little younger, but, you know, with the 70s, like, we pulling like James Brown, we pulling all these stylistic blue magic, they gonna start pulling those mob Deep records and being like, damn, what's this? This sounded crazier than all that other stuff that's supposed to be top 40, you know what I mean?
DJ Envy
Yeah. And how you mentioned Jay. How did that beef ever start? And do you ever regret never producing for hov? Is that one of the things off top?
Havoc
Of course. You know what I'm saying? As a producer, you want to produce for the.
DJ Envy
The best producer for every New York great.
Havoc
But that one, right, That's. That's the one I'm chasing. You know what I mean? But shout out to ho. So when that beef happened, I had to stand with my brother.
DJ Envy
How did it start?
Havoc
Oh, it started because back to what we was talking about with the, you know, Snoop.
DJ Envy
Snoop came through and crushed the.
Havoc
Crushed the builders. And then we came with LA la, and then I think Prodigy seen an article with. Wait, matter of fact, I think Jay Z says something in his line about New York been soft since he didn't appreciate it. And then he said something in a magazine and called. Called hold out his name. Oh, is it. You know, saying there's a contact sport. He. You know what I'm saying?
DJ Envy
He.
Havoc
In his prom, he going right back at Prodigy. So it. It just started right there.
DJ Envy
Right. Do you feel like that beef hurt my deep.
Havoc
I'm not gonna say that It. It hurt Mal deep. But it. It could have did a little. A little nice little delay, you know what I mean? Because when you got somebody like that just coming at you, you know what I'm saying, it's like it start chipping away, you know, that armor.
DJ Envy
I always wanted to know what Nas said during that time when y'.
Havoc
All.
DJ Envy
Because y' all all beefing together, right? Did Nas ever say, yo, let's do this together? Like, what was that conversation like?
Havoc
Nah, he was on his lone wolf real quick, you know what I mean? He came out with that ether. It was like, you know, I mean, nobody saw it coming. You know what I mean?
Jasmine
He.
Havoc
We never ever had a conversation about like, yo, yeah, man, let's. Let's go get him.
DJ Envy
Let's jump him. Let's jump him now. That was never the conversation. Now, I always like to ask, these are my two favorite beats, My two favorite hip hop beats. I want you to break down when you created SHK ones and when you created Quietstorm, right? And whose choice was it to put of every artist out there, why, Little Kim? So let's start off with breaking out SHK1. So where were you when you made Create when you made Shook ones? And did you know that was gonna be what it was?
Havoc
Shook Ones. I made that in my. In Queens Ridge, in my mom's apartment, where I grew up at, right? Dirty records all over the floor. Scratch pop, vinyl.
Charlamagne Tha God
Know.
Havoc
Didn't even really know what I was doing. Then the crew came in the crib, Prodigy, all of this. Yeah, what's this? I was like, oh, it's whatever, whatever. I'm about to turn the computer, you know, the drum machine. No, no, no, no. Don't, don't. Don't turn it off. Keep it. Kept it. We did a song to it, actually. We had a ship once. Part two and then part one and then. Then this became part two, and it took off. I had no idea it was going to do that. Quiet Storm. I ran out of samples, you know what I mean? I ran out of anything to sample. So I'm just looking at the. This Sugar Hill Gang record, like, damn, let me just try you for now. Because I. That's a record that I always pass, like, you know, white lines and all of that. Nobody's not putting that on. You know what I mean? So put that on, sampled it. I said, let me slow it down maybe like, you know, slow it down, throw some rim shots to it, and just did it. Didn't think nothing of it. Prodigy used to come to my house, go in the basement to the studio while I'm sleep, and then when I went down, he's like, yo, have. What's this? I was like, like, it's whatever. It wasn't nothing. And he did a whole solo song to it. And then we ended up making it. The first single on. I Believe It Was Murder Music. And I was kind of a little upset by then because Chris Lighty, God Bless the Day, he was like, yo, we making this the first single. I'm like, yo, I'm not on it. You know what I'm saying? He was like, but you made the beat. And I think that was the time when. Now everybody's just looking at me as a producer and not even a rapper, so. So that was a. That's another story, you know what I mean? That I'm getting looked at just as a producer when I just be trying to, like, you know, write my life away on the paper. But it's all good.
DJ Envy
And then how did y' all get. What was the decision to put Little Kim? Why Little Kim? Of all the female MCs at that time, why Kim?
Havoc
I mean, come on, Envy, you know what time it is. We go in the club right now, Mob Deep's in the club. It's just. It's a sausage fest.
Charlamagne Tha God
Right?
Havoc
You know what I'm saying? So we like, yo, we need to. We need to get the chicks involved. Who we could get. Who we could get Little Kim. And she agreed to do it. I went to the studio. I seen her in there writing her verse. She sung my hook over. I'm telling you, that record took off. Off like you couldn't.
DJ Envy
It was genius. It was to the day where you could put out a street record and it could be a single. And to this Day is Kim's. One of Kim's biggest verses. It just connects. Hot damn hoe, here we go again.
Havoc
And she got that little. The dance that she do to this day still.
Lauren LaRosa
To this day.
DJ Envy
To this day.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah. I was thinking about you. You mentioned, like, going in the club and, like, using that and bringing that back into the music. Maybe some artists do that now, but I think a lot of artists are geared toward, like, tick tock and numbers and research. Because the industry has changed.
Havoc
Right.
Lauren LaRosa
Envy always talks about how lit the club scene in New York was and all the artists and all the things.
DJ Envy
Like, I always tell her that everybody used to be outside.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah.
DJ Envy
When we was clubbing, like, it was. There were no. I would say rich or broke.
Havoc
It was.
DJ Envy
It would be the dude from the block on the left side, right Mobb Deep on the right, Hove in this corner, Kim and them on this side. You would see Nas was always in a cup by himself. Somehow some Way wiggling in and out. You would see the Lost Boys, you would just see so many. You would see everybody in the club and you would see how music reacts. And like you said, it wouldn't matter. You play the gangster's record, Girls is rapping, dudes is rapping. And we would go from club to club, night to night. And it was just a feeling. In New York, I always tell about that you just could never change. It was just. Just something about that.
Havoc
I mean, it was an amazing time, you know what I mean? Like, when street records was. You was able to dance to it, you didn't have to make a radio record, you know what I mean? But once your record took off in the clubs, you was kind of like pretty much out of there. I think the clubs dictated hits.
DJ Envy
When you signed with 50, when y' all did the deal with 50, break that down. And why y' all decided to sign that deal? And where were y' all at that point? As far as Mobb Deep to get?
Havoc
Yeah, I mean, if you get off of some Ferraris, you not go inside the deal.
DJ Envy
Absolutely.
Havoc
But nah, 50 called me. We was free agents at that point. I think we had been on jive.
DJ Envy
Yep.
Havoc
We sold150,000 records the first week. That wasn't good enough for Job today. I mean, that's like probably platinum or something like that.
DJ Envy
Absolutely. But it was happy with 30,000.
Havoc
Exactly. So I guess we was ahead of our time or not, whatever it is. But 50 called me.
Jasmine
Me.
Havoc
I. And I had already worked with 50. Like maybe a year before that, before he was bubbling on the mixtape, I remember. And he was one of my favorite artists, you know what I'm saying? We did bump dad and clap those things or whatever. And that was supposed to be for my solo album. Loud folded, never came out. And then the next, you know, a year later, somebody named 50 Cent is just going bubbling right. So we kept that relationship going, and by the time we became free agents, gave me a call, said, I want to sign y'. All. He swept us up into the G Unit umbrella, went on tour, the rest was history.
Charlamagne Tha God
Why?
DJ Envy
How come you never signed more artists? Because you. You were the producer. You were the artist. How could you? Because you could, I'm sure, sign 50 early on, besides Big Noy, who did y'?
Charlamagne Tha God
All?
Havoc
True. You know what it is? I. I guess I haven't ever found the artist that I truly like. Yo, I like, I can. I just don't want to sign somebody just to sign somebody. Like, I guess my. My Bar is high, high, you know, I really want to sign that artist now. There's an artist that I did want to sign that she wasn't signed at the time. It was a Jasmine Sullivan. She just came in to, like, write because back then I was like getting people to throw reference vocals. And Steve, I was working with Stevie J and he knew her and got her to the studio. And I was like, God damn. I was like, yo, she's nice, you know what I mean? But she's one of those artists that, you know is going to get a major record deal and get signed. You got to come, come with the business if you want to sign a Jasmine Sullivan. But for instance, like, I don't run across artists like that all the time. And those are the artists that I really want to. You know what I mean? And they few and far between.
Lauren LaRosa
So you didn't sign her only because the deal situation wasn't gonna be what you thought it should be or like, how did that not move?
Havoc
I wasn't ready, you know what I'm saying? I ain't gonna lie, you know, female artists is like high maintenance, you know what I'm saying? It come with a lot, you know what I'm saying? Not to. You know what I'm saying?
Lauren LaRosa
I mean, because you got glam and branding. And I will say, although Jasmine Sullivan jeans, that's it. Yeah. No, our T shirt and je different. But Jasmine Sullivan is one of the best singers, period, in the game. Right? But I feel like it took people so long. It was hotels for me when people even started recognizing her the way that they should have. And she had been working for so long before that. So I'm sure a lot of money was poured into that.
DJ Envy
Absolutely.
Lauren LaRosa
So I understand what you're saying, but y' all didn't even have a conversation and attempt to see, like, what she would say to your offer.
Havoc
I had the conversation in my mind.
Charlamagne Tha God
You know what I'm saying?
Havoc
Like, I, I wish that I, I, you know, because I was just, you know, I was in my own way, you know what I mean? But the artists in me wanted her to shine, you know what I mean? And not even, you know, try to get in her way, but, you know, that's what it is. Like, I never come across artists of that caliber. It's really hard, right? Like, you know, so that's why I.
Lauren LaRosa
Was gonna ask, what's the biggest bag you ever, you ever missed out on? Because just business wise, you didn't plan for that.
Havoc
The biggest bag I missed out on was for a Super bowl commercial. They wanted to use the Mobb Deep music in the super bowl commercial. And for whatever reason, a lawyer took too long and we missed out on the opportunity. So, yeah, that. That hurt. Still hurt.
DJ Envy
So. So you're doing this album as a passion project. Cause obviously you don't need the money if you're still getting paid.
Charlamagne Tha God
Like you said.
DJ Envy
I ain't say that. Infinite is out this Friday, and we. We appreciate you for joining us, man. I love these stories, and I just love to see the growth because I was a kid in Queens and I watched what y' all did, and we admire that. You know, I mean, from the driving the cars, the shooting, the Shook Ones video to all that, we got a chance to see it. So the fact that you're still heavy and you're still doing it, man, we appreciate you, bro.
Lauren LaRosa
And this is how we got a date for the Method Man Covid album.
Havoc
Oh, yeah, the Method Man Covid. We don't have a date, but me and him are actively in the studio. And he tried to put me in the headlock. I didn't let him. But he said, we gotta finish this album.
Lauren LaRosa
We're gonna finish this for a couple months. We wait for a date, but.
Havoc
Okay, I know we'll have one soon, though.
Lauren LaRosa
Thanks for joining us, though.
Havoc
Thank you. Thanks for having me.
DJ Envy
Album comes out this Friday. It's havoc. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Havoc
She gets them from somebody that knows somebody.
Charlamagne Tha God
She gets the details.
Lauren LaRosa
I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything.
Charlamagne Tha God
She be having the latest on this. The Latest with Lauren LaRosa. Sometimes you have facts, sometimes you have details. Sometimes you have a little bit of everything. Well, it's the latest on the Breakfast Club. Talk to me.
Lauren LaRosa
Okay, so Mark Sanchez, former NFL quarterback, also now turned sports caster, sports anchor for Fox, was there was a stabbing incident that happened. Now, when this story was first reported, it was just reported that Mark Sanchez had been stabbed in an incident. There weren't really too many details. And then more details came out yesterday. Police in Indianapolis, which is where this went down, downtown Indianapolis held a press conference and the Marion county prosecutor says or made the announcement that Mark Sanchez's charges because he was later arrested in the hospital, once they reviewed surveillance video, have escalated from misdemeanors to one of. To a level 5 felony battery charge involving serious bodily injury which carries anywhere from one to six years behind bars. Now, the police say in this press conference that. That the charge was elevated after they looked at the Alleged victim's conditions. They say the victim suffered a severe laceration to the side of his face penetrating all the way through his left cheek. Now, for background.
Charlamagne Tha God
Stop it, man.
DJ Envy
Why would you use that word?
Charlamagne Tha God
You could have used any word.
DJ Envy
You could have went through the cheek. But as soon as you said penetrate from one side to the other side, you knew he was gonna laugh. You did that on purpose.
Lauren LaRosa
I am just here reporting the news and getting you guys opinions and takes.
DJ Envy
Back to the penetration. Go ahead.
Havoc
Boring.
Lauren LaRosa
Lauren, don't do nothing on purpose.
Charlamagne Tha God
Hey, yo.
DJ Envy
So why you use that word? I knew it.
Charlamagne Tha God
I knew it.
Jasmine
You too, you funny.
Lauren LaRosa
All right, go ahead. Yes. So the, the victim suffered that laceration that I just mentioned. But for background, because we didn't originally report this story, Mark Sanchez was hit with three misdemeanor charges, as I mentioned. So he got into an incident with a guy that drives a delivery truck. It's a 69 year old man. He was driving a truck early Saturday morning and he parked at like a loading dock. He was dropping off oil to a hotel fryer. Oil to a hotel at a loading dock. And him.
Havoc
And.
DJ Envy
What'S funny about that one?
Jasmine
See, she said, she said. She came back and said fire oil. But you dropping off oil to a hotel is crazy too. Go ahead, Lauren. Oh, thank you.
Lauren LaRosa
Oil Diddy. Okay. Basically they got into it. Yeah, that was Mark Sanchez. And this guy allegedly got into it because he claims or alleges that Mark Sanchez was upset about where he parked the truck. So allegedly the, you know, the back and forth with them got heated to the point where this guy alleges he feared for his life. So he stabbed Mark Shaz a few times after trying to pepper spray him. He said that it didn't work. And so both of them ended a parking spot.
Charlamagne Tha God
Wasn't Mark allegedly drunk too?
Lauren LaRosa
Yes. So allegedly Mark was intoxicated and it got really, really int. Fence. And the man says he tried to calm the situation down, tried to pepper spray him, didn't work. So then he says that he stabbed him. And this man was also injured as well too. They were both taken to the hospital that surveillance video that I mentioned came about, and that's when Mark Sanchez was arrested while in the hospital.
Charlamagne Tha God
So Mark allegedly did this. I'm looking at the picture in the New York Post. He did this to the guy.
Lauren LaRosa
I didn't even see that picture, but.
Jasmine
Jesus, that man looked.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So now you can tell that by the end of this press conference that police are really, really upset. They wanted to make it clear that Mark Sanchez. It doesn't matter who you are. We're going to investigate this the way it should be investigated. And the guy, his name is Perry Toll, has already filed a lawsuit. So he filed a lawsuit against Mark Sanchez and Fox for assault, battery, and then against Fox for negligent hiring, retention and supervision.
DJ Envy
He says, yeah, he wasn't on duty.
Lauren LaRosa
So he's saying, he's saying Fox should have known that Sanchez was a bad fit as an employee, allegedly due to his propensity for drinking and. Or harmful content. Content conduct. I'm sorry. Because Mark Sanchez was in town to call a game. But that didn't happen once all this happened and he got replaced. So.
DJ Envy
Yeah, now you can't see like he wasn't working like this man was. That's crazy.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah.
DJ Envy
But you can sue anything for, for anybody.
Charlamagne Tha God
If I'm looking at this picture of this guy in this newspaper and this is true, if Mark Sanchez was drunk and he put hands on this guy like that and seemed like the guy's defending himself to me.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah, yeah. And Mark Sanchez has. Hadn't said anything or any reps for him had not said anything. But he did issue a statement yesterday. His family says this has been a deeply distressing time for everyone involved. Mark and our family are incredibly grateful for the concern, love and support we've received over the past few days. That comes from his brother Nick. In a statement that was given at tmz, Mark remains under medical care for the serious injuries he sustained and is focused on his recovery. As the legal process continues, we'd like to extend our heartfelt thanks to responders and medical staff and because police made it clear both people could have really been harmed really badly, like died in this situation.
Charlamagne Tha God
This looks like more than a cheek was penetrated.
DJ Envy
Well, and how old was the gentleman?
Lauren LaRosa
The guy is 69 years old and he looked.
Jasmine
Oh, you know, he white. So he looked way older. But that's crazy, man.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah. Well, there.
DJ Envy
So 70 years old. Mark is what, 47?
Lauren LaRosa
I'm not for sure. But the, the. So the laceration to the face that we mentioned. Mentioned, that's the one that made them elevate the charges. But he was stabbed in. The 69 year old man was also stabbed in his upper torso as well. And police say that they're alleging Sanchez is 38. That mark was the aggressor in this situation. Who.
Charlamagne Tha God
The old man got stabbed too.
Lauren LaRosa
That's the. Yes, that's the guy that was.
Jasmine
And it didn't work, so he had to Stab him?
Charlamagne Tha God
No. But you said the old man got stabbed too.
Lauren LaRosa
Both of them were stabbed. Yes.
Charlamagne Tha God
Damn.
DJ Envy
Now he's 70. That man is 70 years old. Mark Sanchez is 38.
Jasmine
And he looks. Looks.
Lauren LaRosa
Yes.
Jasmine
In bad shape. Like. He's in bad shape for sure from that picture.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah. Well, the police say both people. To be clear, both people could have died from this situation because these. These injuries could have been very, you know, could have not bounced back from him. And that's why they're taking this so serious. I mean, they take everything serious, the police, but they wanted to make that clear. Yeah, so.
Charlamagne Tha God
So who allegedly stabbed the old man? Marches.
Lauren LaRosa
Yes. So basically, I'll explain to you.
Jasmine
Stabbing each other.
Charlamagne Tha God
That's a Latino. To me. They was going at it, boy. God dang.
Jasmine
He said, Jesus Christ. Up and down.
DJ Envy
It must have had to be one knife. Maybe he took the knife from the.
Jasmine
The old individual.
Havoc
Yeah.
DJ Envy
Because I'm sure Mark Sanchez wasn't walking around with a knife or a blip. Well, I don't know.
Jasmine
Okay, that's crazy.
Lauren LaRosa
It is.
Jasmine
So he said mark first, and then Mark was like, oh, no, you don't. And then stabbed him.
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, yeah, that's what happened. Yeah. Actually, the truck driver Perry told. Told cops he stabbed Sanchez multiple times in self defense after being attacked. And he said, chance, that Sanchez then took Toll's knife and slashed his cheek open.
DJ Envy
See what I'm saying?
Charlamagne Tha God
Cutting the man's tongue in the process. Wow.
Jasmine
Wow.
DJ Envy
Because I can't see Mark Sanchez walking around with a blade.
Havoc
You know what I mean?
Jasmine
Right. So we took it from the guy.
DJ Envy
Allegedly.
Jasmine
And the guy was probably slow.
Charlamagne Tha God
Where is the video?
Jasmine
He was probably real slow.
Lauren LaRosa
I don't know, but I mean, like.
Jasmine
He was probably moving slow.
Lauren LaRosa
The full video hasn't been released, but there is video of the man being put on a stretcher. There was obviously video because they said that's what made them upgrade the charges.
Charlamagne Tha God
But I wonder what happened, because if.
Lauren LaRosa
The guy video of Mark walking away from the scene too.
Havoc
Like.
Lauren LaRosa
Like limping away from the scene with a lot of blood on his shirt. So, yeah, this is.
Charlamagne Tha God
I bet you Tequila was involved too. I can't put my finger on it or confirm it, but I guarantee you.
Jasmine
There, that old man had some. Some fighting him because 70 years old and you was able to stab him like that.
Caller/Rick
That.
DJ Envy
That's what I'm saying.
Jasmine
Quicker than that, because m got that knife. Like. Sorry.
DJ Envy
All right.
Jasmine
Sorry.
DJ Envy
We have to go now. Lauren, I'm sorry.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah, I was trying to throw to the Topic.
Jasmine
Oh, I'm sorry. Happy birthday to Vladimir Putin, though. It's his birthday.
Charlamagne Tha God
That was silly.
Jasmine
What? Well, they put it on the sheet.
Charlamagne Tha God
I don't know why.
Jasmine
Yeah, they put it on the sheet. Vladimir Putin birthday and happy birthday, Tony Braxton.
Charlamagne Tha God
You should have said Tony.
Havoc
Well, it's on the sheet.
Jasmine
Don't put it on here if I can't say it.
DJ Envy
I hate the show. Charl, man, who you give me donkey too, man.
Charlamagne Tha God
Before. After the hour. I'm conflicted about this donkey. But we have a young man named Michael Stanick. He needs to come to the front of the congregation. We like to have a word with him.
DJ Envy
All right, we'll get to that. Next, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Havoc
You're checking out the Breakfast Club.
DJ Envy
Make sure you tell them to watch out for Florida, man.
Charlamagne Tha God
The craziest people in America come from the Bronx and all of Florida. Yes, you are a donkey.
Mimi Brown
A Florida man attacked an ATM for a very strange reason. He said it gave him too much money. Florida man is arrested after deputies say he rigged the door to his home in an attempt to electrocute his pregnant wife.
Lauren LaRosa
Police arrested an Orlando man for attacking a flamingo.
Charlamagne Tha God
The Breakfast Club donkey of the day with Charlemagne, the guy.
DJ Envy
I don't know why y' all keep.
Havoc
Letting him get y' all like this.
Charlamagne Tha God
Donkey today for Tuesday, October 7th has me conflicted, okay? The common sense logical human in me wants to give it to 57 year old Michael Stanick. Michael is a Florida man, ladies and gentlemen. And what does your Uncle Charlotte always tell you about the great state of Florida? Say it with me. The craziest people in America come from the Bronx and all of Florida, and today is no exception. See, Michael was doing 107 miles per hour, okay? I know he deserves donkey of the day because there is never a reason to be speeding like that on the highway, all right? In fact, I don't even know why vehicles make cars that can go over whatever the speed limit is, okay? What's the point of having 100 plus on the dash? Especially in America, okay? I know the autobahn in Germany, that highway in Dubai, I think it is. They let you push it to 100 plus. But also, why? Why do you need to be going 100 miles per hour? You're not in NASCAR, okay? Hell, Marty McFly only had to go to 88 to initiate time travel. But Michael was doing 107 miles per hour. Not to mention, if you crash doing 100 miles per hour, you dead. There's no if ands or buts about it. And if you do survive, you will have long term physical and emotional trauma. So I just don't see the reason reason to ever be going that fast. But what does it say about me that when I first heard this story, I said he was tripping, but then when I heard the reason he was speeding, I kind of understood. Okay, hear me out. See, Michael was pulled over for going over 100 miles per hour. And he had a reason that I'm sure a lot of men can understand. What are some reasons a man could be speeding? Late picking up the kids from something, late for work, late picking up your, your wife, you know, your significant other. All of those are valid reasons to be speeding. Okay, Not a hundred. But if you were doing 100 plus, I wouldn't agree with you doing it, but I can understand why you would be doing it. But there might be a sleeper reason on that list, man. And this is why Michael Stanick has me slightly conflicted this morning. And I know this story is Florida. I know, I know. But what he told police, I think it's going, it's going to gonna, you know, be some men out there that can relate. We have the actual dash cam footage from Michaels to Nick after being pulled over for doing 107 miles per hour. Listen to his reason. Why don't you hop out for a second?
Havoc
Reason for the stop, we're going 107.
DJ Envy
Why are you going so fast?
Caller/Rick
I have a appointment with my barber.
DJ Envy
You have an appointment with your barber?
Havoc
New Sparrow and New Smyrna, so know.
Charlamagne Tha God
That car's kind of cold.
DJ Envy
So you go 107 miles an hour weaving in and out of traffic, putting other people's lives in danger.
Havoc
Now you get to go to jail for the night.
Charlamagne Tha God
Damn. For the night?
Caller/Rick
For the night?
DJ Envy
Yeah. You know, Florida criminal to go over 100 miles an hour.
Charlamagne Tha God
I did it.
Havoc
Now, right now your car will be towed.
Caller/Rick
Now you'll be going to jail.
Charlamagne Tha God
Let's just play the beginning back for me, right? Just the beginning. I need y' all to understand. Why Was he doing 107 miles per hour? He was honestly honest with the police officer. He had an appointment with his barber.
Caller/Rick
Listen, why don't you hop out for a second?
Havoc
Reason for the stop, I'm going 107.
DJ Envy
Why are you going so fast?
Caller/Rick
I have a problem with my barber.
Charlamagne Tha God
You can stop. Listen, come on, my brothers. I don't care what race you. Are we talking about our barbers here? Barbers are essential workers. Barbers, Barbers are as important as Doctors, nurses, therapists. Dennis, you have to have a primary care barber, okay? And when you have a primary care barber, they are usually in demand, so you have to respect their time because you want to be there when it's your appointment time. Sometimes you even get there a little earlier because he might be running late with another client or another client might be running late, so you get to cut into that person's time, okay? Now, I'm not making excuses for Michael, but if a man is speeding to get to the barber, that means he has some important things to do that day. And the haircut is the foundation of it all, okay? That's what folks don't understand. The way Fleece Johnson feels about booty in prison is how free men feel about haircuts, okay? There is nothing more important. When you have something to do, I don't care what outfit you got on, I don't care what you driving. I don't care what's on your feet. If you don't have a haircut, it's all for nothing. Once he again, not making excuses for why Michael was speeding, okay? He was doing 100 miles per hour. That's insane. But it has to be a certain level of understanding amongst men when it comes to these type of situations, okay? Also, I understand police officers have a job to do, but can the man get a break for his honesty? By the grace of God, nobody was hurt from his speeding. He told you he was trying to get to the barber. If you, a male officer, you gotta understand a little bit, right? Provide the man at escort, get him to the barber on time, don't take him to jail and mess up his day. You already see speeding, trying to get somewhere on time, and here you go making him even more late. No, no, no, no. That's not how that should go, okay? God bless those police officers, because if they hadn't have stopped Michael, he may have killed himself. Or even worse, killed someone. Okay, listen, kids. Leave soon, drive slower, live longer. If you're not in a rush to die, don't act like it when you get behind the wheel. Please give Michaels to Nick. The sweet sounds of the Hamiltones.
DJ Envy
Of the day. You are the doggy of the day.
Charlamagne Tha God
Envy. You look very stupid and beige in the face. I can tell when he wants to say something stupid. Working with this guy for 15 years.
Havoc
Go ahead, Envy.
DJ Envy
I know how that went. It went just like this, okay? I need a haircut. I can get you in if you could be to me by 2 o'.
Charlamagne Tha God
Clock. That's right.
Jasmine
Yeah.
DJ Envy
If not, I'm not open until tomorrow and I got a flight.
Charlamagne Tha God
He hit that gas and he hit that gas.
Jasmine
177 though.
DJ Envy
You gotta get to there. You gotta get there before 2 because he got another cut at 2:30. And you need that cut before your flight or before your date or before whatever you gotta do.
Jasmine
Even with you being slightly remedial, would you even say to the cop, y' all gotta.
Charlamagne Tha God
He's being honest.
Jasmine
What would you say?
DJ Envy
I ain't like the remedial stuff, but I'm sorry.
Charlamagne Tha God
Cause I'd have just said retarded.
Jasmine
Yeah, I don't use that word on the radio.
Havoc
But.
DJ Envy
But anyway. Wait, no, no, I wouldn't say wouldn't what?
Jasmine
Cuz that's not.
DJ Envy
Nah.
Jasmine
So your black ass would say, I got a appointment with my bubba.
DJ Envy
No, he would say, I got a wax, I got a wax. I got a wax at 3. It can't be late.
Jasmine
I got a colonoscopy.
Charlamagne Tha God
I'm on time for stuff like that. But I would have just told the truth. Because you're probably going to jail anyway, so you probably got a better chance of telling the truth than not going to jail. Yes, cuz he told the truth. I got an appointment with my boss. Trouble?
DJ Envy
Nah.
Charlamagne Tha God
No. Yo.
Jasmine
You can say, yo, my wife is in labor, I'm having. I'm racing tour.
Charlamagne Tha God
That's a big lie.
DJ Envy
Check that one. He can check that big lie. You can check that one, big guy.
Charlamagne Tha God
By the way, the only other reason to be speeding like that is if you bought the shot on yourself. That's happening. But you probably won't realize it's a reason to speed until you've shot it on yourself. And I've shot it on myself while driving. So I know that I would never be in that position again. If I would have hit the gas just a little bit more, I probably would have got to my desk.
Jasmine
But I thought you didn't f. In your clothes.
Charlamagne Tha God
That's. And that's one of the reasons why I don't.
Havoc
Oh.
Jasmine
From then on it's been, no, I can't.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes. But that wasn't a fart though. That was a shark. Sharks are uncontrollable, loose booty.
DJ Envy
All right, well, thank you for that donkey today.
Jasmine
When you getting bottomed out?
Charlamagne Tha God
I do kegels.
Jasmine
Okay. So it helps the elasticity.
Charlamagne Tha God
I don't know what that means.
Jasmine
Oh, you don't?
Charlamagne Tha God
I don't think you're supposed to have an elastic booty, is it?
Jasmine
Yes. That's the whole Point. Your booty is like a rubber band. It's like, yes.
Charlamagne Tha God
I don't know.
DJ Envy
Why are we going there? Why? Why?
Jasmine
And when it gets stressed out too much, it's hemorrhoid time.
Charlamagne Tha God
I think your booty should be more like a tire. Oh, no.
Jasmine
What?
DJ Envy
What the hell are we talking about?
Jasmine
Hard and durable.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes.
Jasmine
Oh, my God.
Charlamagne Tha God
Should not be able to penetrate your tire. Oh, my God.
Jasmine
Yo.
DJ Envy
All right, well, thank you.
Jasmine
Keep it going.
DJ Envy
All right, now, when we come back, let's open up the phone lines. 800-585-1051. All right, now, Cam. Cam Newton was talking on this podcast, and he was talking about body count. It's hard to go from booty to this. I know, but this is what he had said.
Havoc
I wanted to know her list of who she.
Charlamagne Tha God
I wanna know. I needed to know.
Caller/Rick
I have.
Jasmine
Oh, my God.
Charlamagne Tha God
Because before I sit up here and really keep moving and elevating our relationship, I wanna know who got one up on me and if I'm willing to take on that burden. Because if you had any type of relationship intimacy experiences with people that I really know, I need to know that I'm old.
Havoc
That.
Charlamagne Tha God
Because if you don't give me that, you got me. Hey, y', all, this my girl.
DJ Envy
All right, so the question is, I.
Charlamagne Tha God
Wonder why he thinks somebody got one up on him right when they came before him.
Lauren LaRosa
Right?
Jasmine
Exactly.
DJ Envy
Pause. But we'll talk about it when we come back. 800-585-1051. Do you want want to know your partners, your significant other's body count and names, like who they were with when they were with that person?
Charlamagne Tha God
This is a tale as old as time. I feel like we ask this question every couple of years, but y ain't.
Jasmine
Never have my fake on it.
DJ Envy
That's right. We going to talk about it when we come back. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Charlamagne Tha God
Call in right now. Add your opinion to the Breakfast Club topic. Break it down.
DJ Envy
800-585-1051. The Breakfast Club.
Charlamagne Tha God
It's topic time.
Havoc
Call 800-585-1051 to join into the discussion.
Charlamagne Tha God
With the Breakfast Club.
DJ Envy
Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlamagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Now, if you're just joining us, we were talking about Cam no Newton. He was on his podcast talking about body counts, and this is what he said.
Havoc
I wanted to know her list of who she.
Charlamagne Tha God
I wanna know her name's address. I needed to know.
DJ Envy
I have to.
Jasmine
Oh, my God.
Charlamagne Tha God
Because before I sit up here and really keep moving and elevating our relationship. I wanna know who got one up on me and if I'm willing to take on that burden. Because if you had any type of relationship intimacy experiences with people that I really know, I need to know that I'm old.
Caller/Rick
That.
Charlamagne Tha God
Because if you don't give me that, you got me. Hey, y', all, this my girl. And you got somebody over there in that corner like, that don't know. If she had been with somebody that was close to me, I would have had to. Respectfully, I'm not there yet. I can't carry that weight yet.
DJ Envy
So we're asking 800-585-1051. Do you want to know your partner's body count and who they slept with? Not just the number, but, but names, Jess.
Jasmine
Yo, now listen, hear me out on this. I, I'm not opposed to what Cam said, right? I do understand on both. Now, me, I don't really care, but it depends on who you date. Now, Cam Newton is a celebrity. Jasmine, you know that she is, too. You know what I mean? You know, celebrity or whatever she is. So Cam don't want to be around somebody that she had slept with or was, you know? You know? And he don't know. I don't know about the one up, but I just don't. I prefer to not have him if I was in her shoes as well. I prefer not to have him around these niggas that I'm. That may have smashed me or I was smashing them. And he don't know, so I understand that the body count. All right, cool. He did also say that he can't judge her for something that she did before him.
Charlamagne Tha God
Correct.
Jasmine
But he just wants to be in the know. I do agree with that. Me, my little list crazy. And nobody ever asked for it, right? So that's fine, but I'm not sharing it.
DJ Envy
No, but I, I, I, I see what you're saying. If you're in the same industry, right, and you're going to be around people, yeah, you would want to get. You would want somebody to know for sure, Chris.
Charlamagne Tha God
Now, I want to know, since you, since your list so crazy, why you look so crazy? Jess, you're on the radio telling people you look so crazy, why the list so crazy?
Jasmine
Because back in the day, if I'm.
Charlamagne Tha God
Chris, I'm putting the hammer down.
DJ Envy
She's evolved.
Charlamagne Tha God
I'm putting the lawn care equipment up, and me and you gonna sit down, we gonna have a whole conversation about this crazy list of y'. All.
Jasmine
No, his list was crazy, too, and I rather not know about it. I don't. I don't want to know about his list at all.
DJ Envy
At all.
Jasmine
No, he went crazy. I already know he did. And he lived out the country so that overseas, you know what I'm saying? Like, all that.
Charlamagne Tha God
No, I bet you Chris and ICE agents got the same list. I bet you it reads the same. Wow.
DJ Envy
What the hell?
Jasmine
This is why I can't talk to him.
Charlamagne Tha God
I agree with both of y'.
Caller/Rick
All.
Charlamagne Tha God
I feel like Cam Cam just want to know who she slept with in the business.
Lauren LaRosa
That's all.
Jasmine
You know?
Charlamagne Tha God
Like, I want to know all the famous people you smash because.
Jasmine
Right.
Charlamagne Tha God
You know, some of these bodies don't matter, especially if you've been with a woman for a long time. Like, do you really care about the college and high school stuff? You care about that 10th grade tender. No, you care about that senior slum.
DJ Envy
You care about somebody if you got to interview somebody.
Charlamagne Tha God
And.
DJ Envy
Yeah, he would want to know.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah. You just want to know the fact. Yeah. If you're in the business with a person or in the industry with a person. Person. You want to know the famous people that person slept with for sure.
Jasmine
Now, Chris did ask me that. He did ask me that. He did not ask me for my body count on my list. But he. No, he did not ask me how many truckers I slept with. Envy. He asked me, y' all some idiots know. He asked me about celebrity. Just go to the phone lines.
Charlamagne Tha God
He most made me spit out my tea. Man, talk about the truckers. Crazy. If Chris wanted to listen to truckers like you, just a little lot lizard out here.
DJ Envy
And I'm not. You a clown at me.
Jasmine
That's him trying to get me back because I call him Remedio.
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, my God.
DJ Envy
Hello, this.
Caller/Rick
Hey, peace. Peace. This is Greg from Jersey. How y' all doing?
DJ Envy
Greg from Jersey. What's up, man?
Jasmine
Good morning.
Caller/Rick
Hey, good morning. Good morning, Jess.
Charlamagne Tha God
Good morning.
Caller/Rick
Good morning, Charlotte. Man on the topic, right? I just broke up with somebody because of this situation, man.
Charlamagne Tha God
What happened? Tell us.
Caller/Rick
So me and Shorty was dating for a while. My man gave me the drop. He like, yo, I hit it a minute ago.
DJ Envy
Damn.
Caller/Rick
But when I came to her. When I came to her, you know, we all chill together, too. So it's like a cold situation.
Jasmine
Oh, wow.
Caller/Rick
I bought it. So I said. I said, listen, Shorty, like, you. All you got to do is keep it real with me. Like, I just want to know. She ain't. She got belligerent act crazy. She broke up the crib. Like, wow. Wow. Bro, cops called all types of damn.
Charlamagne Tha God
Did you like her?
Caller/Rick
I used to.
Charlamagne Tha God
See, here's my thing. If you, like, hit me with that right hook. But if you like her, what does it matter if your man hit back before you?
Caller/Rick
It's the honesty for me. Like, if you gonna lie about something in the past, you gonna lie about the truth.
Jasmine
They all chill. I respect your man for coming to tell you about that. You know what I mean? But, yeah, now, were y' all serious? Like, that was your girl. This was just somebody you talking to. Cause she don't owe you that. If there's somebody that you was just tough.
Caller/Rick
We locked in.
DJ Envy
We locked in.
Caller/Rick
Just the kids. The kids integrated. We was like, damn.
Jasmine
Yeah, she definitely owed you that, you know? But to get upset about it. That and the way she got upset about it, you had to ask her. You had to come at her crazy. It could have been how you came at her. I'm telling you.
Caller/Rick
I mean, I ain't going say I the best. I'm cool and collected about it. Like, I was upset that.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, when she lied about it, I.
Caller/Rick
Pressed it even more.
Jasmine
Yeah, but that's the thing she made. You didn't even provide that safe space for her, to be honest with you. You feel me? You probably came at it like, you know, I can't even say what I think you said on the radio, but I know you came at her kind of crazy, and that's why you got that right hook.
DJ Envy
Absolutely. Hello? Hello? Who's this?
Caller/Rick
Envy. What's up, Envy?
Charlamagne Tha God
Hey, y'.
DJ Envy
All.
Charlamagne Tha God
Hey.
Caller/Rick
So I was calling about your little discussion, and I'm going to say that I don't even know your body count, but I need to know. Know if you mess with certain people that I know, because that's the you don't mess with, you know, Taran and I saw Taran last month with a bunch of bumps around his mouth.
Charlamagne Tha God
Who the hell is that?
Lauren LaRosa
Right?
Jasmine
Just like an anonymous guy.
Caller/Rick
An anonymous game, right? Let's say Sarah.
Charlamagne Tha God
Fine.
Caller/Rick
And then you'd be like, yeah, I messed with him. And then it's like, oh, I. I know. I saw Terrain with some bucks around his mouth last month.
Charlamagne Tha God
Now I can't talk to you no more.
Caller/Rick
Damn.
Jasmine
I totally understand, Trav.
DJ Envy
Did anybody ever ask you if you.
Caller/Rick
Smell around my mouth, J.
Jasmine
Exactly. I know. I hear that.
DJ Envy
Trav. Has anybody ever asked if you smash Charlotte?
Caller/Rick
Yes. They ask me all the time.
Charlamagne Tha God
I know they did.
DJ Envy
Do you lie? You tell Them the truth.
Lauren LaRosa
I know they did it.
Caller/Rick
Depends who it is. If it's my cousins, I like, I like to troll them sometimes.
Charlamagne Tha God
So you be lying on your pee.
Caller/Rick
Pee, I be lying on your butt.
Lauren LaRosa
And that's why.
Jasmine
That's why don't believe that's my brother.
Lauren LaRosa
That's my sister.
Jasmine
Cuz they call each other brothers and sisters. Sister. That's why you can't trust that.
Charlamagne Tha God
That's disgusting.
DJ Envy
That is.
Jasmine
That's my brother, though.
Charlamagne Tha God
But men be lying, that's why. Even the guy that called last time. How can you trust your homeboy? How you know your homeboy was telling the truth? How you know your homeboy ain't see you happy with this girl? And maybe that was a chick he was trying to get with but couldn't never get with, so he just decided to tell you he hit when he didn't.
DJ Envy
Hello? Who's this?
Caller/Rick
Hi, good morning. It's Zania.
DJ Envy
Hey, Zania, talk to us.
Caller/Rick
Hey. So you gotta think about where you are in life. I'm at of an age where it's like, what is the benefit technically of me knowing the exact body count?
Charlamagne Tha God
That's true.
Caller/Rick
If you think about it, you get to a point in your age and time, you're like, you know what? I'm where I am for a reason. And if I want to share my life with somebody, there's really not really any benefit to knowing an exact count. Because at that point, think about on it, you're gonna end up judging them. So then what type of relationship are you really gonna have?
Charlamagne Tha God
I do think it depends on what type of relationship you got with that person, though, because, you know, like, you. You and a person might have the type of relationship. Well, y' all sit around and discuss your old horror stories, you know what I mean? It's just like soldiers sitting around discussing old war stories.
Caller/Rick
And that's cool, but, you know, you don't want to put yourself in a position. Now, let's say if you're an overthinker, I know me, I'm a Capricorn, big Capricorn. I overthink. And I don't want to sit there and judge my. My partner because let's say he's had 10, 15, whatever females, all right? But I love you now. That was you then I'm not gonna kick you because you was a spot back then. That don't mean nothing to me now, because you ain't doing that now. You know what I mean? Right? So to me, it's not really, really a Benefit, however, now, if it's somebody close, like my home girl, then it's like, all right, we can. We gotta work that out. We gotta talk about that. But as far as, like, a full number, we're too old for that. Nah, we ain't too. For that.
DJ Envy
Okay, thank you, mama. What's the moral of the story, guys?
Jasmine
I mean, it's to each his own.
Charlamagne Tha God
I agree.
Jasmine
Some people don't mind giving up that list. Some people don't even ask for it. Some people do. Like. Like, they. Apparently Cam and Jazz, they, like, best friends. Like, she commented on it was like, yeah, he has my list. So it's now, like, it's fine. There's nothing that I have to hide. He don't have to find out nothing later that I didn't sell him. Like, and now he knows how to protect me.
Charlamagne Tha God
And I also think it's context to everything. Like we said earlier, both of them are in the entertainment industry. Right? Cam just wants to know what other athletes, what other entertainers that he might.
DJ Envy
Interview that he might run into.
Jasmine
He has a podcast. Everybody come up there.
Lauren LaRosa
Chair.
Jasmine
To sit on his. His chair and talk to him. Like, it could. He could talk to one of her former bodies or whatever.
Charlamagne Tha God
Right? And. And I just think it's. I mean, also, if you really like a person, you know, don't matter what their body count is, man, unless y' all all in the same industry and it's three people in the industry, you can. Yeah, no, no, you. I'm letting y' all lay. That's another thing. Ladies need you to know that if you slept with more than three people in the same industry. Industry, you a hold of somebody.
Jasmine
Oh, yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
I'm telling you right now.
DJ Envy
All right, well, when we come back, we got the latest with Lauren, so don't go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, The Breakfast Club.
Jasmine
Lauren becoming a straight fan.
DJ Envy
She gets him from somebody that knows somebody.
Charlamagne Tha God
She gets the details.
Lauren LaRosa
I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything.
Charlamagne Tha God
She be having the latest on you. I say I'm the biggest.
Caller/Rick
The Lord.
Charlamagne Tha God
The Latest with Lauren LaRosa. Sometimes you have facts, Sometimes you have details. Sometimes you have a little bit of everything. Who is the latest on the Breakfast Club? Talk to me.
Lauren LaRosa
So, Diddy, his team was asked at the sentencing, where does he want to be housed for? Well, if they have any, you know, preferences of where he wants to be housed for his four years, and his team has now answered that. So they submitted a letter to the judge yesterday that Asked the judge for Diddy to be put in a. A low level security prison, federal prison here in Jersey or in Jersey called Fort Dix. And the reason why y' all play too much.
Jasmine
Why would you have to say it like that?
Charlamagne Tha God
Yo, Dicks.
DJ Envy
Of all places. Okay, go ahead.
Charlamagne Tha God
This is like on coming to America when they looked at the map and they said they want to go to America. And it was like, where can we find a good lady? And they pick Queen.
Jasmine
Queen.
Charlamagne Tha God
It's like he just spun the globe and he looked, he was like, that's who I want to be. Dicks crazy. Send me there.
Lauren LaRosa
Well, yeah, he. He wants to go there because they have a really good drug.
DJ Envy
Jesus Christ.
Lauren LaRosa
They have a really good drug rehabilitation program. And then they're talking about just a bunch of different programs that they do as he kind of tries to get himself back together to be eventually released. And it'll make it easier for his family and stuff like that to be able to visit him and things like that. So just a quick update there.
Charlamagne Tha God
I wonder how he feels, man.
Lauren LaRosa
Like, because what.
Charlamagne Tha God
Because some of this, you got to. He got to look at that and be like.
DJ Envy
I'm sure he depress.
Charlamagne Tha God
I know the joke. I know 50 Cent going to kill me with this, but I got to.
DJ Envy
Go to Fort Dick.
Charlamagne Tha God
I got to go to Fort Diggs.
Lauren LaRosa
It's closer to home.
Charlamagne Tha God
Can you imagine building a forted for real?
Jasmine
What?
Charlamagne Tha God
You know how many male prostitutes you have to have to create a forte?
Lauren LaRosa
And that's why we're moving on. Like, seriously, that's why we're moving on.
DJ Envy
Yeah, what else we got?
Charlamagne Tha God
So you build affordable pillows. I need 20 male prostitutes, cuz I want to be able to. For the around me.
DJ Envy
This guy's too much.
Charlamagne Tha God
Continuing. We're moving on.
Lauren LaRosa
Okay, so in other news, Gucci man, you know, he has his book that he wrote and he's talking about different parts of his life and advertising the books. And he posted a video talking about a time where he had to be kidnapped by his own wife and his bodyguards because he was having a mental. A mental crisis. Let's take a listen.
DJ Envy
I got a new book coming out called Episodes.
Havoc
So anybody who got family members or.
DJ Envy
They self is dealing with mental health issues.
Havoc
You need to get this book.
DJ Envy
This talks about my struggles through my.
Havoc
Adult life with mental health.
DJ Envy
It's talking about a whole bunch of.
Havoc
Different episodes in my life. It talks about the time I was.
DJ Envy
High as hell and got the ice cream cone tattoo.
Havoc
It talks about the time when I was Going through an episode and my wife kidnapped me with my six bodyguards.
DJ Envy
From the Porsche and had to take.
Havoc
Me to a mental hospital. Other talks about the time me and.
DJ Envy
Scooter seen each other in the airport.
Havoc
And we got into it when I.
DJ Envy
Was going through an episode. Talks about my childhood. It talks about me and OJ Growing up trapping. It even talks about me and my.
Havoc
Mom and our strain relationship from when.
DJ Envy
She tried to get the thing like Britney Spears got on her.
Havoc
My mom tried to do that to me.
Charlamagne Tha God
Listen, man, I'm looking forward to this book. If I knew that Gucci was coming out with this book, I would have definitely had him at my mental health expo this weekend because I love when people share their stories because the only, only, you know, way to erase the stigma around mental health is for people to share their story. So I'm glad that Gucci is coming out with this book called Episode.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah. And I think at least in, you know, the stories that he's telling, because people make mental health seem like an isolated thing. It affects your family too, like people who love you. So I think, you know, having that conversation and talking through what that looked like for his family too, will help people.
Charlamagne Tha God
So that's one of the panels we have at the mental health Expo. One of the panels we have at the Mental Health Expo is people who have to deal with people who have. Have mental health issues because nobody ever talks about the stress and the pressure that they be on.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah. Which is a lot. And in other news, in other 1017 news, push. I see Push. I see rapper Push. I see from Memphis. Gucci, man's artist was released yesterday. Now this release is. It's a few months early, but he was slated to be released in April of 2026, but he was released yesterday. And I saw videos posted already, so, you know, I tried to reach out to see like, if he went right to the studio or like what those first hours, first day is going to look like home for him. But didn't get anything there. So, you know, wishing him the best and to stay here.
Jasmine
Absolutely.
DJ Envy
I know everybody wants their rappers to go to the studio right away, but they got family. Like, they want to see their family. I mean, they were.
Lauren LaRosa
It was. All the videos I saw posted yesterday were family and friends.
DJ Envy
Yeah.
Lauren LaRosa
Like people just excited to see.
Charlamagne Tha God
Absolutely.
Lauren LaRosa
You know what I mean? So, yeah, always good to see somebody be able to touch land again.
Charlamagne Tha God
Absolutely. Pusha Dope. He was dope when he went in. I hope his career continues now that he's home.
DJ Envy
Absolutely. All right. Well, that is the latest with Lauren. Now when we come back, we got the People's Choice mix. We're gonna start off with some Mob Deep. So don't go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Charlamagne Tha God
You're checking out the Breakfast Club.
DJ Envy
Morning everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Now we gotta salute Havoc from Mob Deep for joining us today. Their new album, Infinite. The Mob Deep album comes out this Friday. It's gonna be on Mass Appeal, which is Nas's record label.
Charlamagne Tha God
So Salute to drop on a Clues bond for Nas and Math. Math Appeal has been putting out some of the best, you know, hip hop projects.
Havoc
Absolutely.
Charlamagne Tha God
Of the last couple of years.
DJ Envy
That's right.
Charlamagne Tha God
Especially this year. This year was what? Raekwon, Mobb Deep, Ghost Face. Who else Matthew came out with this year? I definitely remember Ray, Nas and Ghostface and now Mob.
Havoc
Yep.
Charlamagne Tha God
No, not Nas. Ray Mobbing Ghost.
DJ Envy
Ray Mobbing Ghost. Yeah. So, and Nas is on there three times. Nine Spits. He's on there three times. Clips is on that album. You got the album right?
Charlamagne Tha God
You heard you got it, right? I don't think I got it. I heard that one song though.
DJ Envy
Yeah. No, it's album is dope. Now Justin's gonna be upstate New York.
Jasmine
I am. I'm be in Syracuse Friday and then Albany on Saturday at the Funny Bone Comedy Club. We got two shows Friday and two shows Saturday. Get your tickets if you haven't yet. I will be doing meet and greet. Get on the website. Just the Lawrence official dot com. I can't wait to see you, upstate New York.
DJ Envy
All right, well, it's time for a positive note. You got a positive note to shout out?
Charlamagne Tha God
I do. And I want to tell people too, man. Make sure you have my fifth annual Mental Wealth Expo this Saturday at the Joelle and Diane Bloom Wellness and Event center in Newark, New Jersey from 11:00am to 4:00pm it is an absolutely free event. It is a day of mental health education and healing. You know, we got a day of panels, we got breakout rooms. So, you know, you can go learn how to meditate and you know, do yoga. All types of different stuff, man. But you know who's gonna be there? Debbie Brown's gonna be there. Dr. Alfie Breland Noble. Dr. J. Barnett Elliot Connie, Jason Wilson, Deontay Wilder. Just. Just to name a few folks that's going to be there. And it is a free event. It is absolutely free. Free. Free. From 11am to 4pm Just go to mentalwealthexpo.com to register. Now, the positive note is simply this passion. Okay, I want to talk to you about passion. All right? Passion is a feeling that tells you this is the right thing to do. Nothing can stand in my way. It doesn't matter what anyone else says. Says this feeling is so good that it cannot be ignored. You're gonna follow your bliss and act upon this glorious sensation of joy. Follow that passion. Y' all have a great day. Breakfast Club bitches.
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Date: October 7, 2025
Hosts: DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God
Special Guests: Havoc (Mobb Deep), Lauren LaRosa, Mimi Brown
Main Topics: LeBron James’ “Decision,” Diddy’s request for prison transfer, Havoc/Mobb Deep interview, Government shutdown effects, trending news, and cultural commentary
This episode of The Breakfast Club covers a variety of hot-button issues in sports, music, and current events. LeBron James’ cryptic "decision" post, Diddy's legal team requesting a transfer to a minimum-security prison, and the highly anticipated Mobb Deep album “Infinite” headline the show. The hosts also break down the impact of the ongoing government shutdown, take calls on personal topics, and share a deep-dive interview with Havoc from Mobb Deep, exploring hip-hop history and legacy.
This episode is a classic example of The Breakfast Club’s mix: top-of-mind headlines, deeply personal and historic interviews (notably with Havoc of Mobb Deep), and energetic, interactive engagement with listeners. Whether you’re interested in hip-hop history, NBA drama, political analysis, or just need a laugh, this episode delivers.