FULL SHOW: Ma$e Calls Out Charlamagne For His Past Critique

Summary

The Breakfast Club – February 25, 2026

Episode Summary: Ma$e Calls Out Charlamagne For His Past Critique

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Main Theme

This episode of The Breakfast Club is a fast-moving, wide-ranging discussion featuring DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, and Charlamagne Tha God, with guest Lauren LaRosa and news updates from Mimi Brown. The show covers current news, pop culture, listener call-ins, and a headline segment where rapper Ma$e directly addresses Charlamagne's past critiques of his career. Topics include reactions to Trump's State of the Union, debates about exes, women's sexual fulfillment, workplace discrimination lawsuits, and major cultural moments like Wu Tang’s Hall of Fame nomination.

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Detailed Breakdown

1. Morning Vibes & City News

• Timestamps: 02:42–05:15
• Hosts open with playful banter about the snowy weather in NYC, the city paying kids $30/hour to shovel snow, and snow-day dynamics.
  • Charlamagne: “I'm glad these kids want to shovel snow to make some goddamn money. I was concerned.” (04:01)
  • Positive reactions to kids’ initiative, but criticism of taxes on their wages.
• Notable humor as they discuss getting IDs to shovel snow and contrast with their own childhoods.

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2. Front Page News: Trump’s State of the Union

• Timestamps: 06:26–13:36

• Mimi Brown recaps Trump’s marathon State of the Union, where he touts economic success, claims to “end DEI,” and pushes for strict voter ID laws.

  • Charlamagne: “That's not a good thing... People need their food stamps.” (07:41)
  • Disagreement and skepticism from the team on Trump’s claims of economic prosperity and policy moves.
  • Lively debate about performative politics and who actually benefits from economic policies, with skepticism about disconnect between political speeches and lived reality.

• Notable Quotes:

  • Charlamagne: "There has to be nothing more infuriating than watching the president tell you that the economy is good when you're broke... has to be infuriating." (12:23)
  • DJ Envy questions who gets civilian honors: "What else did the goalie do besides play in the Olympics? I was confused..." (12:40)

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3. Listener Call-Ins: Economy, Immigrant Struggles, and Trump Support

• Timestamps: 14:23–21:05
• Callers vent about economic struggles, difficulties accessing benefits, and ICE encounters.
• One caller credits Charlamagne for helping his family during hard times (17:30–17:39).
• Another caller pushes self-responsibility: "If you broke, that's on you. There’s a thousand ways to get it out here... don't be blaming Trump." (20:01)
• Brief debate erupts on personal accountability vs. systemic issues.

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4. Cultural News: Power from Wu Tang and Rock & Roll Hall of Fame

• Timestamps: 22:23–31:46
• Lauren LaRosa honors the late Oliver “Power” Grant, pivotal Wu Tang figure; crew reflects on his crucial legacy.
  • Charlamagne: “You could argue that there would probably be no Wu Tang if it wasn't for Power.” (28:35)
• Wu Tang’s nomination for Rock & Roll Hall of Fame is big news.
  • Big debate: Should the “Rock & Roll” label even exist, given genre-mixing nominees?
• Other nominees: Lauryn Hill, Mariah Carey, Sade, Luther Vandross, New Edition, Shakira.
• Charlamagne: “It's about taking rock and roll off and just letting it be the Music Hall of Fame.” (29:50)

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5. Trending Topics: Workplace Lawsuit, Viral Snowball Fight, and Family Tragedy

• Timestamps: 32:16–40:50
• Mimi Brown reports on:
  • A Florida dad sentenced to prison after letting unlicensed son drive, resulting in fatal crash. Emotional clips from family in court. (32:16–34:55)
  • An EEOC lawsuit against Coca Cola for hosting a women-only networking event.
    • Charlamagne lampoons the male complainant: “Why would you be upset that women are deciding to have their own type of bonding event... sit his ass down somewhere.” (36:15–36:39)
  • “Snowballgate”: NYPD’s aggressive reaction to being hit with snowballs at a big park snowball fight. Hosts debate whether the police response is overblown.

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6. Listener Call-In Debate: Is It Okay to Wish Your Ex a Happy Birthday?

• Timestamps: 41:15–56:06
• Inspired by Ms. Jackson wishing ex Floyd Mayweather a public happy birthday.
  • Jess Hilarious: “It depends on the type of ex... I wish my baby father a happy birthday all the time.” (41:15)
  • Charlamagne: “If your ex is your baby father, baby mother, fine... Otherwise, why would you?” (44:53)
  • Varied perspectives: some see it as maturity, others as inappropriate, especially in a new relationship.
  • DJ Envy: “I say ex is an ex, and unless you have a baby with them, nah—there’s no reason to go back in time.” (43:24)
  • Callers add nuance—some have close, functional friendships with exes, others say respect your current partner and “leave the past in the past.”

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7. Ma$e Calls Out Charlamagne: Hip-Hop Critique Clash

• Timestamps: 59:45–65:55
• The viral moment: On “It Is What It Is,” Ma$e accuses Charlamagne of persistently negative commentary about him.
  • Ma$e (clip): “I don’t think we’ve crossed paths. So I remember one time I called DJ Envy... It's when you personally make it your business to tear somebody down.” (59:45)
• Charlamagne responds: “My commentary on Mase back then, it wasn’t anything personal... There was a debate because I said Mase wasn’t a top five Bad Boy lyricist.” (61:24)
• DJ Envy and Lauren defend Mase's lyricism; debate ranking of Bad Boy artists.
• Charlamagne: “Why do any of us critique anything?... this is just a hip hop conversation.” (62:56)
• Anecdotes about run-ins with Ma$e, the necessity of standing by your words, and the impact of having to interact in the real world after making public critiques.
  • Charlamagne: “That’s why I don’t have a lot of respect for this generation... you had to stand on it. You better have that same energy.” (65:28)
• Respectful closing: “Salute to Ma$e... that Mase looks like he's supposed to be right there with his guy, you know, talking about sports.” (64:28)

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8. Donkey of the Day: Lashana Williams

• Timestamps: 66:19–71:39
• Charlamagne delivers a scathing Donkey of the Day to former daycare worker Lashana Williams, who glued a toddler to a chair causing burns.
  • “Projecting your pain onto other people’s children will get your ass whipped.” (66:40)
• Details of case, punishment, and a call for more than just legal repercussions—emphasizing parental paranoia about leaving children with strangers.
  • “If you glue my child to a chair, then you gonna think my foot is glued to your ass.” (68:23)

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9. Hot Topic: Should Women Fake Orgasms? (Inspired by Halle Berry)

• Timestamps: 71:50–78:58
• Inspired by Halle Berry stating she refuses to fake orgasms anymore (72:14), the hosts open up about honesty and satisfaction in relationships.
  • DJ Envy admits his wife faked orgasms early in their marriage, which became a viral topic: “She did lie. She used to fake it. And we wrote about it in the book...” (74:13)
  • Jess Hilarious: “Women are not as forthcoming as we should be when something ain’t right in the bedroom, because we don’t want to bruise a man’s ego.” (75:30)
• Callers weigh in, many admitting to faking for “the man’s ego” or to “just get it over with.”
• Strong encouragement for honest communication as key to sexual satisfaction and growth.
• Charlamagne: “A person can’t get better if you don’t tell us how to get better.” (77:41)
• Laughter and camaraderie as stories are swapped about learning and improving.

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10. Announcements, Final Bits & Black History

• Timestamps: 87:44–103:24
• Announcement: The Black Effect Podcast Festival will be back April 25 in Atlanta; more details to come.
• Feature on the historical resilience of Ethiopia as the only African country to resist colonization (B. Dot’s “I Didn’t Know, Maybe You Didn’t Either” segment).
• Jess Hilarious shares a fact about the Jerry Curl’s origins.
• Show closes with a positive note: “Don’t ever have an emotional response to a situation... Always have strategic responses, not emotional ones.” (102:49)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Ma$e: “It's when you personally make it your business to tear somebody down—that's when it's a problem.” (59:45)
• Charlamagne: “That is exactly what happened. That was an AI-generated post, and that's why it said that. Stop letting the AI do your work for you.” (31:47)
• Listener: “I was really about to check out... You just did it.” (Caller to Charlamagne, 17:31)
• Jess Hilarious: “Women are not as forthcoming as we should be... because we don’t want to bruise a man’s ego.” (75:30)
• Charlamagne: “Why do any of us critique anything?... this is just a hip hop conversation.” (62:56)
• DJ Envy, joking about his sexual learning curve: “My mouth game was good.” (74:12)

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Timestamps: Important Segments

• State of the Union Recap: 06:26–13:36
• Ma$e/Charlamagne Dispute: 59:45–65:55
• Wu Tang Hall of Fame Discussion: 28:47–31:46, continued at 56:11
• Snowballgate: 38:59–40:50
• Faking Orgasms Topic: 71:50–78:58

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Tone and Style

The energy is high, fast-paced, and honest—mixing hard news, trending debates, and personal vulnerability. The hosts maintain sharp humor and camaraderie, often poking fun at each other and welcoming listeners’ candid stories. The underlying theme is always empowerment, awareness, and the importance of real-life accountability—whether in hip-hop, politics, relationships, or community.

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For First-Time Listeners

Expect a blend of timely news, raw opinions, honest storytelling, and lively debate—delivered in a distinctly urban, humorous, and unfiltered style. Iconic hip-hop moments meet real-world issues, always with an ear to how culture, community, and personal growth intersect. For those interested in hip-hop, Black culture, and no-holds-barred talk radio, this episode is a showcase.

Transcript

[Lauren LaRosa]

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[DJ Envy]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Jesse]

I want to win against the best of the best.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I chickened out at the final tribal.

[Jesse]

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[Lauren LaRosa]

It's an honor.

[DJ Envy]

Light your torch.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I've got some unfinished business. Be part of history.

[DJ Envy]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

This time bigger than ever.

[DJ Envy]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

tonight at 8, 7 Central. This is special agent Riegel, Special Agent Bradley Hall.

[DJ Envy]

In 2018, the FBI took down a

[Charlamagne Tha God]

ring of spies working for China's Ministry of State Security, one of the most

[DJ Envy]

mysterious intelligence agencies in the world.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The Sixth Bureau podcast is a story

[Jesse]

of the inner workings of the MSS and how one man's ambition and mistakes

[Caller]

opened its vault of secrets.

[DJ Envy]

Listen to the 6th Bureau on the

[Charlamagne Tha God]

iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Mimi Brown]

Hi, it's Jill Winterstein, host of the Spirit Daughter podcast where we talk about astrology, natal charts and how to step into your most vibrant life. And today I'm talking with my dear friend Christa Williams. It can change you in the best way possible. Dance with the change. Dance with the breakdowns. The embodiment of Pisces intuition with Capricorn power moves. Just so. I'm like delusionally proud of my chart. Listen to the Spirit Daughter podcast starting on February 24th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you listen to your podcast. I'm Nancy Glass, host of the Burden of Guilt season two podcast. This is a story about a horrendous lie that destroyed two families. Late one night, Bobby Gumpright became the victim of a random crime. The perpetrator was sentenced to nine 99 years until a confession changed everything.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was a monster.

[Mimi Brown]

Listen to Burden of guilt Season 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or

[Jesse]

wherever you get your podcasts.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Before we had AT&T business wireless coverage. Our delivery GPS wasn't the most reliable. Once our driver had to do a 14 point turn to get back on route. A 14 point turn and influencer even

[Caller]

live stream the whole thing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Not good for business. Now with AT&T business wireless routes are updating on the fly and deliveries are on time. And the influencer did get us 53

[DJ Envy]

new followers though at&t business wireless connecting changes everything.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wake you up.

[DJ Envy]

Wake that ass up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Program your Alarm to Power 105.1 on iheartradio Good morning, USA. Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo.

[DJ Envy]

Jess. Hilarious. Good morning, Charlemagne the God.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Peace to the planet. Guess what day it is. Guess what day it is. Hump day. How y' all feel out there? I feel blessed, black and highly favored. Happy to be here another day to serve our beautiful listeners. Good morning.

[DJ Envy]

Yes, good morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Happy to be back in the studio, man.

[DJ Envy]

You and me both.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I like. I like. I like being from home, but not really.

[Jesse]

Yeah, I thought it was gonna be way worse driving in. Ain't gonna lie.

[DJ Envy]

Nah, it was. It was an easy drive in. You know, it's funny, I was talking to Art, which is one of the producers up here, and I was asking how to get to work. Was it easy for him because he rides the city biking? And he said that the mayor

[Charlamagne Tha God]

so bad.

[DJ Envy]

Crazy. He said that the mayor gave kids $30 an hour just to shovel snow. So he said all the bike lanes were shoveled. He said all the. The walkway. Pedestrian walkways were shoveled. So he was like, it was an easy ride in.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Is it true that you had to show your ID to shovel snow? I saw that as well.

[Jesse]

Wow, that is so sad.

[DJ Envy]

But now it makes sense. I mean, I love the fact that they're paying these kids.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, that's fire.

[DJ Envy]

To shovel the snow. I think that's pretty dope. You know, shovel a snow lane.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm glad these kids want to shovel snow to make some goddamn money. I was concerned. Every time I. Every time I see this snow drive, all I think is, go get your shovel and go get some cash.

[DJ Envy]

That's right. Go get some money.

[Jesse]

Oh, did you have to shovel your gate? You had to shovel your.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I did. I was out there shoveling it yesterday, too.

[DJ Envy]

I learned my lesson from the first one. Left it right. Left it right open.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Yep.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I know.

[Jesse]

These New York City kids love their man.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, well.

[Jesse]

Yeah, yeah. He calling them, telling them they got snow days. You ain't got to go to school virtually.

[Lauren LaRosa]

What?

[Jesse]

I'm texting the kids.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[DJ Envy]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Don't tax my $30.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, tax.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The difference between going house to house and getting that tax free cash in your hand. Yeah. As opposed to having to wait for a check and invoice and net 30. Probably net 60.

[DJ Envy]

Damn.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what. It works.

[Jesse]

That's what I was thinking. He was giving them cash. Oh, dang.

[DJ Envy]

What do you think the mayor's walking around with cash in his hand, giving everybody. Nah, they gotta do W9s, W2s, all that stuff.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Nah, they getting taxed for that. All right, well, Mimi will be breaking down. People are mad at the mayor right now, and I'm sure Mimi will be breaking it down. There was a snowball fight. Well, really was a one sided snowball fight. The police were walking and they decided to hit the police officers with all

[Charlamagne Tha God]

types of snowballs, by the way, in New York City. I know. You know, for those of us who may be listening to us in other places, they're talking about New York.

[Jesse]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, because we are nationally syndicated morning show.

[DJ Envy]

That's right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. No snow in Florida, no snow in Miami.

[DJ Envy]

But me breaking it down.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What are they talking about in Baltimore?

[Jesse]

In Baltimore.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Who hit Brandon Dummy.

[DJ Envy]

And when we come back, we got front page news, of course. Donald Trump did the State of the Union address last night. Did you guys see it? Did you watch it?

[Jesse]

No, I did not.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I stayed up, but then I had to go to sleep. I had to tap out. It was just. It was. It was way too long.

[DJ Envy]

They said it was the longest one ever.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, he won. I passed out. Yeah, he got me last night.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, I fell asleep. All right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right.

[DJ Envy]

Let's start the show with some Wu Tang.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Rest in, rest in peace power.

[DJ Envy]

Man Powers was one of the founders of Wu Tang, one of the people that funded it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Early on, you could. You can arguably say there would be no Wu Tang if it wasn't for power.

[DJ Envy]

That's right. So let's get some woo on this morning. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You still feel that record in your soul and in your spirit right now. Rest in peace power.

[Jesse]

My mother used to get mad at my father for bumping this through the house like, loud early Saturday morning. Cause she be trying to play Anita Baker, so. So we clean up and stuff. My father bump Wu Tang throughout the house.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Is it two different. Two different types of soul. It's still all soul music, right?

[DJ Envy]

All right, well, let's get in some front page news. What's up, Mimi?

[Mimi Brown]

Good morning, Envy. Jess, Charlemagne. How y' all doing this morning?

[Jesse]

Good morning, Mimi.

[Mimi Brown]

Good morning. So we start this morning with the State of the Union, that marathon address from President Trump that lasted an hour and 48 minutes, setting a record as the longest speech in modern history. Now, he opened by declaring our nation is back, calling his first year a transformation like no one has ever seen. Even as new poll numbers show just 39% of Americans approve of his Job performance. Now, throughout the speech, he painted a picture of progress, saying the border is secure, inflation is falling, incomes are rising, and the stock market is at record highs. Now he argued that retirement accounts are up, gas prices are down, and America is responding again. Critics say many families, though, they still don't feel that relief in their everyday bills. And the president also declared that he has ended DEI in America, pointing to executive orders shutting down diversity, equity and inclusion programs. Let's listen to some of that.

[B Dot]

We ended DEI in America. We cut a record number of job killing regulations and in one year we have lifted 2.4 million Americans, a record off of food stamps.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's not a good thing. Like, I don't know why he said that. Like that was a good thing. People need their food stamps.

[Mimi Brown]

People definitely need the help.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Absolutely.

[Mimi Brown]

We learned that during the government shutdown, the first one on trade. Trump Express or address last week's Supreme Court ruling that struck down most of his tariffs, calling it unfortunate and vowing to move forward under other legal authorities, saying that he does not need Congress to do so. So he also pushed the SAVE act, which we've been talking about, arguing that those who oppose voter ID laws are trying to weaken election safeguards. Let's listen to that.

[B Dot]

And perhaps most importantly, I'm asking you to approve the Save America Act. And the reason they don't want to do it. Why would anybody not want voter id? One reason, because they want to cheat. There's only one reason. They make up all excuses. They say it's racist. They come up with things. You almost say what imagination they have. They want to cheat. They have cheated. And their policy is so bad that the only way they can get elected is to cheat. And we're going to stop it.

[Mimi Brown]

Well, we've been talking about the Save America Act. We know that it will disproportionately disenfranchise about 21 million voters who don't have access to their birth certificate, marriage change, changes on the marriage license or their driver's license. And so critics are also pushing back on that one. President Trump, he announced what he is calling war on fraud. He offered few specifics, but suggested the effort could uncover enough waste and abuse in government programs to help balance the national budget. Let's listen to what he's talking about when he says war on fraud.

[B Dot]

But when it comes to the corruption, that is plundering, really, there's been no more stunning example than Minnesota, where members of the Somali community have pillaged an estimated $19 billion from the American taxpayer We have all the information and in actuality, the number is much higher than that. And California, Massachusetts, Maine and many other states are even worse. So tonight I'm officially announcing the war on fraud to be led by our great vice president, J.D. vance.

[Mimi Brown]

Yes. So also he talked about immigration, which quickly became one of the most heated moments of the night. So after President Trump called lawmakers to stand if they agreed that the government's duty is to protect American citizens, not illegal aliens, Democratic Revs. Ilhan Omar and Rashida Talib, they shouted from the chamber, sparking a tense back and forth moment. Let's listen to that.

[B Dot]

In that shame. You should be ashamed of yourself. Not standing up. You should be ashamed of yourself. That is why I'm also asking you to end deadly sanctuary cities that protect the criminals and enact serious penalties for public officials who block the removal of criminal aliens. In many cases, drug lords, murderers all over our country, they're blocking the removal of these people out of our country. And you should be ashamed of yourself.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was thinking about that as I was watching it last night. If you were there as a Democrat, do you stand when you agree with certain things, like when he says things like, you know, we, we want to keep illegal aliens out, you know, stand. If you agree, do you stand in that moment because, you know, you want, you know, you want to keep illegal aliens out?

[Mimi Brown]

I think it's about. Everything about that is like party, right? So at that point, even if you do agree with it, you stay seated because you're trying to make a bigger point in that moment.

[DJ Envy]

That's.

[Mimi Brown]

You know what I mean?

[DJ Envy]

Nah, I think you sit, you sit the whole time. If you're going to sit during majority of it, you just sit the whole time. You can clap in applause because even when he brought out the hockey team and said, congratulations to the hockey team, they won the gold medal, some Democrats stood up, but most of them sat down and just applauded.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I mean, a lot of that stuff was performative anyway. And to be honest with you, none of the rhetoric matters because I don't think people care about anything else he was talking about except for the economy. So I don't care how long the speech was, hour and 48 minutes. I don't care. Action speak louder than words. And he told us that he would have the economy fixed on day one. Meanwhile, people out here hurting. I think that's what folks, folks cared about.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah, for sure. In another moment, Congressman Al Green, he was excited, escorted out after he held up a sign that said black People aren't apes. He was referencing that video that the president held or that he reposted of the Obamas. And as you mentioned, there was a lighter moment with the US Hockey team. And he also awarded two medals of honor. During the speech, he talked about no tax on tips, American made cars. He renewed his call to end the partial government shutdown. And he warned Iran about nuclear weapons and declared that America is entering what he calls a golden age.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So when is it going to get golden? There has to be nothing more infuriating than watching the president tell you that the economy is good when you're broke. You know what I'm saying? When you barely getting by, when you barely keeping food on your table, when you barely paying your rent, like that has to be infuriating. Especially when he told you that he was going to fix everything on day one.

[DJ Envy]

And I had a question with the Medal of Freedom.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right.

[DJ Envy]

It's the highest civilian honor. What else did the goalie do besides play in the Olympics? I was confused because, you know, he's with Muhammad Ali that we know was an activist. He was. He's with, you know, Michael Jordan that's given so much money back. I was just curious to what he has done, because all he said was just stop all the goals. But he didn't say what he did outside.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Stop all the goals.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, because he was a goalie.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know, but I know he. I know whoever that person is, is pissed off at you right now. He's like, do you get your bum ass out there and do it? I'm just out there and try to stop some pups.

[DJ Envy]

No, I'm just asking.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Getting in the goal.

[DJ Envy]

I'm just asking.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All he did was stop some gold.

[DJ Envy]

No, I'm just asking because all the other. All the other athletes that are, you know, got this award. There's other reasons for it, not just sp.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah, I know what you mean by that. Envy. I was a little confused by that one as well. I don't know other than what you're saying.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The fact y' all is trying to make sense of anything Donald Trump does is mind blocking facts. That's the answer to the question. Because it's Donald Trump. That's why.

[DJ Envy]

You're right.

[Mimi Brown]

Pretty much. All right, well, that is the 6am hour coming at 7. We're going to talk about what you were talking about, Envy. That snowball fight that is now maybe leading to possible arrests. We're going to talk about it and see what people are saying.

[DJ Envy]

Did y' all see him describe the goalie, though. He was like, you look right. You put the go behind your back and you stopped it. And I asked him did he splity planet. And he says, I'm not telling you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, that.

[DJ Envy]

I was like, what the hell is that?

[Jesse]

Might have him excited things tickle his fancy.

[DJ Envy]

All right, well, thank you, me. We'll see you next hour. Everybody else, get it off your chest. 800-585-105.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What the hell?

[Jesse]

What y' all old asses tickle your fancy?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We don't say tickle your fancy. Tickle nobody fancy.

[DJ Envy]

800-585-105. We'll get it off your chest. It's the Breakfast Club of the morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This is your time to get it

[DJ Envy]

off your chest Whether you're mad or blessed.

[Jesse]

I hate the way that you walk,

[Charlamagne Tha God]

the way that you talk I hate the way that you dress. Everything with me is blessed. Call up next.

[DJ Envy]

800-585-1051.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Not just me, I'm with the culture feeling.

[DJ Envy]

Hello? Who's this?

[Caller]

Yeah, this is Raymond calling from New Jersey.

[DJ Envy]

Raymond, what's up, man? Good morning, Jersey brother.

[Caller]

Yeah, we're good. We're driving in the snow right now. It's crazy out here.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What the hell is this? It's snowing still in New Jersey.

[DJ Envy]

It's like a little bit.

[Caller]

Yeah, it just started this morning, man.

[DJ Envy]

Right when we got in, it started snowing a little bit. What's up, Raymond? Get it off your chest. What's up?

[Caller]

Yeah, so I just want to put it out there. There's this dealership Magic at Little Fairy, New Jersey. So they're actually like a very dealership. I just want to warn the people in New Jersey, New York, you know,

[Charlamagne Tha God]

to be careful dealing with them up in the street.

[Jesse]

Thank you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They call it murder. Welcome to Jam Rock Camp with a thug. Them compact.

[Jesse]

We do not want to hear that.

[DJ Envy]

Raymond, what's the name? Yeah, so I'm trying to figure out what you said. You said you bought a car. They did you dirty.

[Caller]

Yeah, they did me dirty. Then they sold me a lemon car. Oh, and then they tried the always. You know, I have a one year while I see with the company, but they refused to fix the car. But I went there last week and they called the cops on me.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, and rape is not Caribbean.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Some boy not notice them. Only come around like the tourists.

[Caller]

Yeah, so for me, I just want to put it out there, you know, before you transact with them. Read some of the reviews on Yep. And you're gonna see how Terrible. They are, man.

[DJ Envy]

All right. Where you from?

[Jesse]

Thank you.

[Caller]

I'm from Nigeria.

[DJ Envy]

Nigeria. Okay.

[Jesse]

Okay, okay. That's what's up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, Have a good one.

[DJ Envy]

Be safe. Thank you for listening, bro.

[Caller]

Okay. You guys have made that place, man.

[Jesse]

Thank you.

[Caller]

Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Have a good one,

[Lauren LaRosa]

Stupidy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Salute to everybody from Nigeria. I love Nigerians, by the way.

[DJ Envy]

Y' all may start saying Caribbean stuff. I'm like, that's not.

[Jesse]

He's not Caribbean, right?

[DJ Envy]

Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need the vent, hit us up now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wake up, Wake up. This is your time to get it off your chest.

[DJ Envy]

Really a matter blessed.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Blast. Below this see under

[Narrator]

man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How y' all doing today, Will?

[Caller]

It's the Ethiopian name.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay. Salute to everybody calling up from Africa.

[Jesse]

Shut up. That's my daughter. Godfather named Mendel. He's in Ethiopian, too. What's up, y'?

[Caller]

All? How the state of the union is. How to. State of the union is a joke, man. Like, everybody out here struggling.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yep.

[Caller]

And it's like, we try to figure out how the ways to make it, man. You're, like, watching that. Like, a spit in the face. Like, I have a family. They have a wife that's disabled, and he tried to tell her that she can't get assistance. Like, we need these things here to survive, especially people who need it because they can't do stuff. Like, you know, I called up about a month ago, and, Charlemagne, man, like, bro, I love you to death, man. I love you, definitely. Like, you did something for me and my family that, like, bro, I was ready to check out. Like, you actually helped me out to be able to bring. Put food on my feet, on my family, please.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I love my brother.

[Caller]

It was. It was. It was crazy, man. Like, I was really about to check out when you said that God is real. Like, I didn't even ask. You just did it.

[DJ Envy]

That's what.

[Caller]

So right now, what's going on is that we trying to get a lawyer for my wife to be able to get her benefits, which is ridiculous. Like, I don't see how you got to do that for somebody to be able to get these benefits in this country, you pay for Social Security, you pay for all this stuff while you work. It's to be able to use it when you don't, when you can't work. And now you got to fight the struggle to be able to get the things that you need. It's Ridiculous, right? I got put over. We trying to get the money up to find a lawyer, like. And the thing is, though, is, like, we just. I'm trying to struggle to put food on the table.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Caller]

And the crazy part about I was late to work yesterday because I got pulled over by ICE in my work truck.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why? Oh, my God.

[Caller]

So I drive a sprinter van. They probably thought that I was carrying people in my sprinter van. They just walked up on me and said that I was trying to find somebody that matches my description. I showed him my ID. He still had. He blocked him for like 30 minutes while trying to work, and he wouldn't move.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn. Did they search the van and everything?

[Caller]

Well, they just opened the side. You know, Sprinter, man. You just got the sliding door.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, yeah.

[Caller]

And that was it. But, but. But if it's possible, can I give out my cash out to try to help us get a lawyer?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Absolutely. Yeah, brother.

[Caller]

It's WMBSR 1981. And the crazy part about it is that even cash app is on this because before when Charlie me helped me out, they put a freeze on my account. Yeah, Breakfast Club was trying to help out and it was blocking it. They try to say you got to open up a business account, which they take fees out of it when people trying to help you. That's ridiculous.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, that's crazy.

[Jesse]

They just started doing that, though.

[DJ Envy]

That happened to somebody else, too. That cool. Remember they said that they. A young lady that called couldn't get.

[Caller]

Hello?

[DJ Envy]

Who's this?

[Caller]

Yo, yo, it's Carlton.

[DJ Envy]

Carlton, what's up? Get it off your chest.

[Caller]

What's up? What's up?

[Narrator]

Good morning.

[Caller]

First off, I just want to say good morning, Charlotte.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Peace King.

[Caller]

Morning, Jeff. My girl. Is your accent for some reason, I don't know why, but I'm getting off her chest for her. She hates your accent. I don't know why I keep explaining to her. You from Baltimore. That's what they talk. I dig it. I with it. That's one thing. Another thing is DJ envy you like this. I thought you was Dominican.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Stop cursing you on the ring.

[DJ Envy]

I'm just showing some love. Sorry. I love you back too, bro. Go ahead, get over your chest.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, yeah.

[Caller]

Man, I thought you was running about this whole time, man. I thought you was Mr. Mongol, but you not. But it's all I just want to say because they want to talk about Trump and blaming Trump for being broke. Like, if you broke, that's on you. There's a thousand ways to get it out here. Since we've been in office. Middle class went up. A few thousand. 20 million jobs opened up for America. There's a lot of trades out here you can do. There's a lot of, you know, different hustles you can do legally. And for you being broke that you just gotta blame yourself, man. There's a lot of ways to get it. I come from New Jersey, moved I had to Miami. Now I'm an 8 track tech making $50 an hour, day trading, swing trading, and I got a side hustle. Sidebar tending you do multiple attendees. So I just want to put it out there, man. It's all up to you. At the end of the day, don't make that money.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, well, I'm glad things are working out for you, brother. All right, brother. I hope it works out for everybody else too.

[Caller]

I mean, I'm hoping so too. There's a lot of Trump haters. I don't know why, man, and not for my life that she running again. I don't know why. That makes no sense to me. I don't think we need a woman running this country. Well, that's just the way I feel.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And that's all. That's all, folks.

[DJ Envy]

Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, you can hit us up. When we come back. We got the latest with Lauren. Don't go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You'll talk. LL Cool, babe.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, I'm not dumbing myself down. I'm being myself. I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything and everything.

[Jesse]

The little brown girls look at you

[Lauren LaRosa]

and go, I want to be like you.

[Jesse]

Take me through that.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Take me through there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The latest with Laurie Anderson on the Breakfast Club. LL Cool Bay tofu. Talk to me. You gotta add context to things, Envy. You can't just be a black or Dominican person screaming straight off the boat

[Jesse]

on black history month.

[DJ Envy]

I'm black.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Lauren LaRosa was on a cruise. I was the fit forward cruise.

[Jesse]

Right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And from Miami. And she's back in studio.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I mean, I am off of a boat, but I understand what you're trying to say.

[DJ Envy]

I'm black, though. I don't know what they're saying. Continue on. Welcome back, Lauren.

[Mimi Brown]

Thank you.

[Jesse]

And they got stuck too. Soon as they docked, they were stuck. That is crazy.

[Lauren LaRosa]

We were stuck.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Didn't you say y' all was stuck?

[Lauren LaRosa]

No, I wasn't stuck

[Charlamagne Tha God]

because of the snowstorm.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, that's right. I was stuck in Miami. Yes.

[Jesse]

Oh, no.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I thought you meant I was stuck on a boat. I'm like, no, I got off when I was gonna get off. I wasn't getting stuck nowhere. Okay, well, good morning, guys.

[Jesse]

Hey, girl. What?

[Lauren LaRosa]

I don't want to be stuck on no cruise ship.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's not like you trying to defend yourself to your boyfriend, right?

[Lauren LaRosa]

No, because that was one of my biggest fears is if something happened on the boat because it was like a little storm and we was rocking, I was scared. Right? All right. Cuz it just trigger me.

[DJ Envy]

Focus.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So I this morning I heard you guys talking about Power from Wuang. So I did want to rest in peace. Yeah, rest in peace. To Power. I did want to take a minute to just talk a little bit about him. Oliver Power Grant, who was one of the founding members of Wuang and the creator of the Wu Wear line, he passed away. He died on February 23. At this point, no cause of death has been reported to the media, but I did see Method man post. He posted a photo of the two of them and his caption says, paradise, my brother. Safe travels, bruh. I am not okay. Power wasn't.

[Mimi Brown]

Hi, this is Jo Winterstein, host of the Spirit Daughter podcast where we talk about astrology, natal charts, and how to step into your most vibrant life. And I just sat down with a mini driver.

[Lauren LaRosa]

The Irish traveler said, when I was

[Jesse]

16, you're gonna have a terrible time with men.

[Mimi Brown]

Actor, storyteller, and unapologetic Aquarian visionary. Aquarius is all about freedom loving and different perspectives. And I find a lot of people with strong placements in Aquari like are misunderstood. A sun and Venus in Aquarius in her seventh house spark her unconventional approach to partnership.

[Lauren LaRosa]

He really has taught me to embrace

[Jesse]

people sleeping in different rooms on different

[Lauren LaRosa]

houses in different places, but just an embracing of the isness of it all.

[Mimi Brown]

If you're navigating your own transformation or just want a chart side view into how a leading artist integrates astrology, creativity and real life, this episode is a must. Listen. Listen to the Spirit Daughter podcast starting on February 24th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your podcast. I'm Nancy Glass, host of the Burden of Guilt season two podcast. This is a story about a horrendous lie that destroyed two families. Late one night, Bobby Gumpright became the victim of a random crime.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He pulls the gun, tells me to lie down on the ground.

[Mimi Brown]

He identified Jermaine Hudson as the perpetrator. Jermaine was sentenced to 99 years.

[Jesse]

I'm like Lord this can't be real.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I thought it was a mistaken identity. The best lie is partial truth.

[Mimi Brown]

For 22 years, only two people knew the truth. Until a confession changed everything.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was a monster.

[Mimi Brown]

Listen to Burden of guilt season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or

[Jesse]

wherever you get your podcasts.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Welcome to the A building. I'm Hans Charles. I'm inelik Lumumba. It's 1969.

[Caller]

Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr

[Charlamagne Tha God]

have both been assassinated, and black America was at a breaking point. Rioting and protest broke out on an unprecedented scale in Atlanta, Georgia. At Martin's alma mater, Morehouse College, the students had their own protest. It featured two prominent figures in black history, Martin Luther King Sr. And a young student, Samuel L. Jackson. To be in what we really thought was a revolution. I mean, people were dying. 1968, the murder of Dr. King, which traumatized everyone.

[Narrator]

The FBI had a role in the

[Charlamagne Tha God]

murder of a Black Panther leader in Chicago. This story is about protest. It echoes in today's world far more than it should, and it will blow your mind. Listen to the A building on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[DJ Envy]

What do you do when the headlines

[Charlamagne Tha God]

don't explain what's happening inside of you? I'm Ben Higgins, and if you can

[DJ Envy]

hear me is where culture meets the soul.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

A place for real conversation. Each episode, I sit down people from all walks of life, celebrities, thinkers, and everyday folks. And we go deeper than the polished story. We talk about what drives us, what shapes us, and what gives us hope. We get honest about the big stuff. Identity when you don't recognize yourself anymore. Loss that changes you Purpose when success isn't enough. Peace when your mind won't slow down. Faith when it's complicated. Some guests have answers. Most are still figuring it out. If you've ever felt like there has to be more to the story, this

[DJ Envy]

show is for you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Listen to if you can hear me on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Mimi Brown]

In the middle of the night, Saskia awoke in a haze. Her husband Mike was on his laptop. What was on his screen would change Saskia's life forever.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I said, I need you to tell me exactly what you're doing. And immediately the mask came off.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You're supposed to be safe.

[DJ Envy]

That's your home.

[Jesse]

That's your husband.

[Mimi Brown]

To keep this secret for so many years, he's like a seasoned pro. This is a story about the end of a marriage. But it's also the story of one woman who was done living in the dark.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You're a dangerous person who preys on vulnerable and trusting people. You're a predator.

[Mimi Brown]

Michael Levengood. Listen to Betrayal Season 5 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Lauren LaRosa]

A performing member of the Wu Tang, but he helped shape their commercial success. He, in the early days, was a big part of the financial backing of the group, helping to secure studio time and just helping build, like, a business infrastructure that allowed Wu Tang Clang to maintain the big, huge level of success that they did.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You could argue that there would probably be no Wu Tang if it wasn't for power.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I literally. Yes, I agree with that. I told Brandon that this morning. Yeah. So I just wanted to make sure that, you know, we took that time to say rest in peace to him at the top of the hour.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Absolutely.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah. And speaking of Wu Tang, the nominations for the Rock and Roll hall of fame class of 2026 just dropped this morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, indeed.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And Wu Tang is on that list. So the list includes Wu Tang Clang, La, Lauryn Hill, Mariah Carey, Sade, Luther Vandross, New Edition, Shakira Pink, Billy Idol, and a ton of others. The official inductees will be announced in April. And then also in April, there will be things that announced like the Musical Influence Award, the Musical Excellence Award, and all the actual things that have happened. So congratulations to everybody that has been nominated.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I can't wait to vote.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Who are you going to vote for?

[DJ Envy]

How many can you vote for?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know. I'm waiting on. As soon as I get my, my, my ballot, my digital ballot, I'm voting.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, me too. I'm voting.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, I'm voting for Wu Tang. You know, I'm voting for an audition,

[DJ Envy]

man, because I thought you.

[Lauren LaRosa]

We should be in the rock and

[DJ Envy]

roll shade you got.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But if I get a vote, I'm gonna take it.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I know. I'm that smart.

[DJ Envy]

Who else did you think?

[Lauren LaRosa]

So it's. It's Wu Ting. Mariah Carey, Luther Vandross, New Edition.

[DJ Envy]

How do you not put all those in? That's a tough one.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Exactly.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But once you.

[Lauren LaRosa]

How many people can you vote for?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know. It's not about not wanting people to be in the Rock and Roll hall of Fame. It's about taking rock and roll off and just letting it be the Music hall of Fame. Look at all those diverse people you just named.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, I can feel that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How's that? Rock and Roll, Right? You couldn't even tell me the rock and roll artist on that list?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Oasis, the Black Crows, Jeff Buckley, basically everybody. I probably don't know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't even know. I don't know. I don't even know.

[Jesse]

I don't know.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm just.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't even know.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I did my list. I was like us and then the others. And then at the top of the others, I put the people that we know, like Pink and, you know, whatever. But yes, congratulations to them and there'll be more there. And then I wanted to mention, I know yesterday we talked about BAFTA and everybody's been talking about John Davidson. He did another interview and he's saying now that he's actually trying to reach out to Michael B. Jordan and Delroy Lindo directly to apologize. So we'll. We'll see if that happens.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Does he yell out inappropriate stuff during this interview?

[Lauren LaRosa]

It was written. I would have played it.

[DJ Envy]

I was wondering, like, even if he calls them to apologize, like, right, I'm sorry. Because, you know,

[Charlamagne Tha God]

By the way, that is another reason why he shouldn't be at the award show. Because if I can't pick up the phone to call you to apologize without calling you, could you imagine that apology? No.

[DJ Envy]

No.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hilarious.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Well, also, did y' all see I. Did you see that Google had to apologize too?

[Jesse]

No.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So Google had to apologize around this situation as well, because when they sent out the alert about the news article, the N word was in the alert. I saw a report of it. I haven't confirmed it, but I saw reports of the apology.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So it says, see more on. I didn't know if it was real or not. I saw that, but I didn't know

[DJ Envy]

if it was crazy.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So according to, like, Deadline, Forbes, all outlets are reporting that that was a real thing that happened and that they had to come back and apologize. Yeah. So that's the latest for the first hour, guys. We'll be back with the more latest

[DJ Envy]

when we come back.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And by the way, I just want to say Google and to everybody else, stop letting AI do your work for you. That's exactly what happened. That was an AI generated post, and that's why it said that stop letting the AI do your work for you.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Damn. Even AI haters.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm talking to our digital department too, by the way.

[DJ Envy]

All right, when we come back, we got front page news, so don't go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody.

[Jesse]

It's DJ Envy.

[DJ Envy]

Just hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's you back in some front page news. What's up, Mimi?

[Mimi Brown]

Good morning, M.V. jess Charlemagne. How you doing this morning? Good morning. So we start this hour in Florida where a case about parental responsibility is making national headlines. So a 69 year old father, he's been sentenced to more than 37 years in prison after prosecutors say he allowed his unlicensed 15 year old son to drive. A decision that ended in a crash that killed three children and their grandmother. Investigators say the teen ran a stop sign. He was driving 80 mph in a 30 mile per hour zone before slamming into another vehicle. Now, during the trial, the children's mother took the stand and delivered an emotional statement. Let's listen.

[Jesse]

There is absolutely no human experience that

[Lauren LaRosa]

replicates the pain of a mother losing a child. And I lost three. I will miss out on every experience. A parent should not have to miss out on. They should have been burying me.

[Mimi Brown]

Now, a jury found the father guilty of manslaughter by culpable negligence. Essentially. Essentially ruling that his decision to let his son drive set the tragedy in motion. So the father, who has stage four prostate cancer, apologized in court and says he lives with constant grief. Let's listen to that.

[Caller]

I must speak these words from the

[Charlamagne Tha God]

deepest place in my heart.

[Caller]

I am profound. Sorry. This tragedy did not just take lives, it shattered families.

[DJ Envy]

Damn.

[Jesse]

So what's gonna happen to the little boy? You gonna get his ass locked up or what's going on?

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah, so. Good question, Jess. During the sentencing, the judge said that the devastating loss of one family justified the punishment beyond the minimum. So that teen driver though, as you were just asking, he's in juvenile custody. He took a plea deal. So he was 15 at the time this happened. In 2020, 2023. The sentencing just happened. So he's now 17, but he will get out when he's 19 years old. So just in a couple days, they

[Jesse]

should stall it out until he 18 because then, then he'll, then he'll get more time. Right.

[DJ Envy]

The sad thing is, but he was 15 and his dad allowed him to drive. You know what I mean? And even though he's still a kid and I don't know why the father allowed him to drive, did they say that? Was he going to get the father's medicine? Was it something important or was it

[Jesse]

just like not doing 80 and a 30?

[DJ Envy]

I mean regardless, it's horrible.

[Jesse]

Cause he could have killed him and his father too. Like, you know what I mean?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[Mimi Brown]

Very sad story. Go ahead, Jess.

[Jesse]

I just think both of them need to need to suffer some type of consequence. I mean, I know he in his fourth stage of prostate cancer, but I mean like that's four lives lost, three kids and somebody's grandmother, you know what I mean?

[Mimi Brown]

Well, he's essentially 70 years old, so he is most likely going to die behind bars with a sentence of 30 plus years. Very, very sad story. And this next story could have ripple effects for companies across the country. So the eeoc, they are suing Coca Cola Beverages, accusing the company of sex discrimination over a women only networking event. So the outcome, it could reshape how corporations handle employee programs. So according to the lawsuit, about 250 female employees, they were invited to a two day company paid networking trip in Connecticut. They were excused from work and they were paid their regular wages. No male employees were invited. So a male production worker, he filed the complaint saying that he would have attended if he were, if he were given the opportunity. And the eeoc, they're arguing that excluding men, even from an event designed to support women, violates federal workplace discrimination laws. So Coca Cola, they have not publicly detailed its legal response and the case is now before a federal court in New Hampshire. But while this case, it centers on Coca Cola, the ruling could determine whether companies across the country can legally host these kinds of networking events and professional programs or whether doing so will now open them up to federal discrimination cases.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Man, who is this fraggle maggot? I mean, God damn, why would you be upset that women are deciding to have their own type of bonding event at work? I would, I would have went if I was invited. I'm sure you would have, but you wasn't. Okay, what's wrong with that? Crazy like that don't even make no sense. Like, God damn. Yeah, was he, was he something? Did he identify as a woman?

[Mimi Brown]

Nope, he identified as a man. He just said, you know, men were excluded and, and, and that's not fair. So they, you know, companies can't do that. You can't have female retreats.

[Jesse]

You can't do crazy, go have a sausage party. But you know, whatever.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Even if he identified as a woman, I would tell, I would still tell him sit his ass down somewhere. But yeah, that's, that's ridiculous. That's crazy. And by the way, the reason they don't do men only retreats because don't know, a bunch of men want to be around each other like that without no women.

[Jesse]

Yeah, that's crazy. It ain't no such thing as an all male fellowship event where y', all, you know, y' all come together. Y' all empower each other.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't like, you know, I get bored at stuff like that, man. No, I need to be around some women.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm sorry I passed. Like, you know how Lauren just went on that boat ride with all women? I couldn't see myself going on a boat ride with, like, a men's cruise.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

There's nothing. There's nothing appealing about that.

[Jesse]

Wow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's just not. And don't get me wrong, you know, it's good when you with your. Your guys and y', all, you know, bonding, but after a while, I need to get home to the wife, man.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, I want to go to an event. Let's go to a game, right? Let's go see some sports.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I like being home.

[DJ Envy]

Like, I'm with y'. All. I can't stand.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I just play Yay on the radio sometimes.

[Mimi Brown]

Damn hilarious. Okay, and so lastly, moving on, we're going to turn to that. That snowball gate. That's what people online are calling it, the snowball gate. So what started as a viral snow day meet up in Washington Square park has now turned into a citywide debate over where winter fun ends and crossing the line begins. So the snowball fight, it was promoted on Instagram. Hundreds showed up after the blizzard there in New York City. So at first it looked like, you know, pure New York energy. Laughter. Cameras out there were snowballs flying. And then things escalated. So video shows NYPD officers walking through the park as snowballs started flying towards them. Police say several officers were hit in the face and the head, suffering cuts and bruises. And at one point, officers, they pulled out pepper spray and a Taser as the crowd, they say, grew more aggressive. And so now police are investigating, and they have released photos of two people that are wanted for assault. NYPD Commissioner Jessica Tisch, she called the scene disgraceful and criminal. And Governor Kathy Hochul, she says it's never acceptable to throw anything at police. But Mayor Mondame, he is striking a different tone. Let's listen to what he had to say.

[B Dot]

I've seen videos of kids throwing snowballs at members of the NYPD in Washington Square Park. Officers have been on the front line of helping our city respond to this blizzard.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They have been keeping New Yorkers safe.

[B Dot]

They and our entire city workforce deserve to be treated with respect. The only person in our city's workforce who deserves to be treated with a snowball is me. From the videos that I've seen, it

[Charlamagne Tha God]

looks like a snowball fight.

[DJ Envy]

No, it Don't.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I saw it. I mean, snowball fights are fun. It takes two to have a snowball fight. But police officers honestly should have just started throwing snowballs.

[Jesse]

I was gonna say, why they couldn't just throw them back?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, that's.

[DJ Envy]

But it was. I mean, that. I mean, because when you get hit with snowballs, especially, you don't know if it's. If it's snowballs, if it's ice.

[Jesse]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

If it's.

[Jesse]

Any of that, it hurts.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You should have started throwing them.

[Jesse]

I mean, damn.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Jesse]

Like, y' all stronger than the kids.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, that actually would have been a good moment for the community to bond. You know what I'm saying? They start throwing snowballs back, they chasing each other. Like that would have been kind of dope.

[DJ Envy]

Not when I'm wetting my uniform and I got to do eight hours in this shift and a whole soaking wet.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You've been a kid before, Envy. You had a snowball fight with other

[DJ Envy]

kids that were in the snowball fight.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They could have had some fun with

[Caller]

it

[Charlamagne Tha God]

if you'd have told me that they put a battery in the snow and threw it at him or something. I get it. But they could have had some fun

[Jesse]

with it not leading to arrest, yo.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah. So that just how you guys are talking about this? Some people say the reaction is overblown, and some people say, you know, officers should relax and have a little bit of fun. But police say they are now reviewing the video and there is an ongoing investigation.

[DJ Envy]

You can't arrest no kids for that. You can't arrest them.

[Jesse]

Ongoing investigation?

[Caller]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

You can't arrest no kids for that.

[Mimi Brown]

That's crazy for a snowball fight.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Mimi Brown]

So we'll see. All right, well, that is your front page news. I'm Mimi Brown. Follow me at Mimi Brown tv For more stories, follow the Black Information network or visit bin news.com Peace, Mimi.

[DJ Envy]

All right, thank you, Mimi. Now let's open up the phone lines. 800-585-1051. One of our digital producers in the back came up with this topic, and she was asking, is it cool to wish your ex a happy birthday? Now she got it from Ms. Jackson. You know, Ms. Jackson used to date Floyd Mayweather. She posted a picture of Floyd with no shirt on and said, happy birthday. Now we're asking, is it okay? Like, would you wish your ex a happy birthday, Jess?

[Jesse]

Now, listen, it depends on the type of ex, because, yes, I. I wish my baby father had your birthday all the time. I've thrown wrong parties like, but that is my son's father. We have a different dynamic than what people usually see between a baby mom and a baby dad. But.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

So you. So you would wish a random X happy birthday in text, and you wouldn't be mad if Chris hit a random X and just said, happy Birthday, Random Max?

[Jesse]

Yeah, I would be. A what Max? A random max.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Ms. Jackson and Floyd have kids.

[Jesse]

No, they don't. Oh, no. But. No. All right, now, look, I work up here. Y' all know it's my job to get out the happy birthday. So if it's Country Rain birthday, you would not wish.

[DJ Envy]

You would not wish him a happy birthday. You would skip over that one.

[Jesse]

I would.

[Caller]

Out.

[Jesse]

I mean, I don't hate the brother.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You know what I'm saying?

[Jesse]

So it's like, happy Birthday. Whatever.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

If I'm Chris, I'm mad at you for even shouting them out right now.

[Jesse]

We're having a conversation about why him?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Out of all the extra Jackson, why him?

[DJ Envy]

Wow.

[Jesse]

I'm just saying everybody know.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And then it's.

[Jesse]

It's a possibility that I. That we may run into each other. He may come up here for an interview.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You know what I'm saying?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But I also don't know Ms. Jackson and Floyd's relationship, but we can take it out of them.

[DJ Envy]

That's where she got it from. Well, let's take it away from them. But is it cool to wish your ex a happy birthday? That is the question. 800-585-1105. When I say, hell no, but let's talk about it. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

If y' all talking about it, you know we talking about it. It's topic time.

[DJ Envy]

Call 800-585-1051 to join into the discussion

[Charlamagne Tha God]

with the Breakfast Club.

[DJ Envy]

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Now, if you're just joining us, we're opening up the phone lines. 800-585-1-051. One of my digital producers asks, is it cool to wish your ex a happy birthday? Now, this comes from a post that she seen. Chantelle Jackson was saying, or Ms. Jackson on Instagram was saying happy birthday to her ex, which was Floyd Mayweather posted a picture of him with no shirt on. So we're asking, is that okay? I say X is an ex, and unless you have a baby with him, nah, there's no reason to go back in time.

[Jesse]

I mean, now, are they both in relationships? I think if they're both Single, I mean, it's no problem. You know what I mean? Because I'm talking about Chantelle and Floyd, right? If they both single, all right, cool. Because basically what that is is a. Hey, big head.

[DJ Envy]

It's a flirt.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Jesse]

Or they already. If they're not already getting back together or smashing or whatever.

[DJ Envy]

But take it outside of them, just.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Just.

[DJ Envy]

Having an ex. Is it okay to wish your ex a happy birthday?

[Jesse]

It depends. Yo, I told y', all, like, my. My son's father, me and Rome, we. We do things with, like, we. We get each other gifts. You know what I'm saying? I threw him a party before. Like, he. You know, he. We show up for each other for all holidays. So, yeah, that's the ex, though.

[DJ Envy]

But I never thought that was a problem if you have kids with somebody, right? Like, people were saying that Offset bought cardi b flowers, right? That man has what, four kids?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes.

[DJ Envy]

It's Valentine's Day. You send flowers from the kids? Wouldn't you?

[Jesse]

Yeah, from the kids.

[DJ Envy]

From the kids? Yeah. I mean, wouldn't you send flowers from the kids? Like, doesn't that make sense? The kids can't afford it, you know, they ain't got no credit card, so you send flowers from. You know, I. I never seen that to be a problem.

[Jesse]

Yeah, no, I ain't never seen it to be a problem.

[DJ Envy]

No.

[Jesse]

But if you're in a relationship and being as though they just got, you know, they just. They were just together and they. And it was. It was a little crazy with them. You know what I mean? So I get if Cardi boyfriend or offset had a girlfriend who would feel a certain way, like, why you send out flowers that, you know, y' all just went through this public. Y' all just, you know, this breakup and. I don't know, but. Yeah, I mean, like I said, it depends. Me and my son, forever, we close. We think it's thieves, boy. So, yeah, happy birthday every year to Rome Charlemagne.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, it's a broad question. Jess is right. You know, it depends. There's a lot of nuance to it. I mean, if your ex is your baby father, baby mother, fine. Other than that, I don't see why you would still be in constant communication with your ex. I don't see why you would still be close to your ex. I mean, I don't. You know, I don't. Like, I don't even. I mean, that's why I don't even like using examples like a Floyd Mayweather and Ms. Jackson, because I don't. Know their relationship.

[DJ Envy]

That's why I said take it outside of them.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, so I don't. I don't know. But if you just ask me, generally, yes. Is it okay to wish your ex happy birthday? No. Like, why would you? Why the hell would you?

[Jesse]

Y' all don't have exes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We don't.

[Jesse]

Y' all been married since y' all were kids.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But even if we did, why, what would be the reason? What's the connection? Did we almost die in a plane crash together? Like, I'm serious. Like, we were. We did we escape a burning building together? Like, what would be the reason for us to still have a bond if we ain't got no cheering? Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Hello. Who's this?

[Caller]

Bear the trucker.

[Narrator]

Good morning.

[Caller]

Good morning. Good morning, my beautiful black people.

[DJ Envy]

What's up, brother? What's your thoughts? Is it okay to wish ex happy birthday?

[Caller]

It's. It's really depend on maturity, honestly, 1. I think if y' all end on good terms and you're able to maintain a good friendship, then, yeah, it's okay. But both people have to be in, like, in unity with that decision, because some people hold on to past relationships just to still have that door open, and it kind of hinders you from your current or if you're not even in a relationship, from getting into a next relationship. And then secondly, people don't know how to be friends. People don't know how to be genuine friends these days. So when you find genuine friendship, it's hard to hold on to, and you must hold on to it. I had one of my ex recently. I dropped trucks and stuff, and she's a, you know, HR manager for Home Healthy. And we try to maintain a friendship. And she was like, yo, if you want anybody and need a job, you know, just let me know. And because I'm currently hiring people while I'm having a baby. My baby was born in April, and one of my sisters, she reached out. She was like, oh, I just moved back to the city, and do you know anybody that's hiring? And I sent her a text, you know, asking her if my sister could come and work with her. She never responded. So I realized that, you know, me having a baby and progressing in my relationship wasn't part of her plan.

[Jesse]

Yeah, she still was trying to leave that door open. You know what I mean? But congratulations on your.

[Caller]

Your.

[Jesse]

Your baby coming.

[Caller]

I appreciate y'. All. Appreciate y', all, Jess. I really do.

[DJ Envy]

Hello?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who's this? Hi.

[DJ Envy]

What's your name?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Mama.

[Jesse]

Hi.

[Caller]

Can you hear Me.

[DJ Envy]

Okay, we can hear you. What's your name?

[Caller]

Tamisha.

[DJ Envy]

Tamisha, is it okay to wish your ex a happy birthday?

[Caller]

Kenesha, with the T dying.

[DJ Envy]

Is it okay?

[Caller]

Yes. Oh, my God. I'm just. Wait a minute. First, I want to just say, I love you, Envy. I love your wife and Jess, and Charlamagne is definitely the best.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Thank you so much.

[DJ Envy]

Love you back. Appreciate you.

[Caller]

I listen to you guys every day. I don't even answer my sister. She lives in Georgia. Sometimes I'll be like, you gotta wait till after the donkey. Cause I can't miss nothing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Don't blame that on us. You just don't really like her.

[Caller]

For real.

[Jesse]

Shut up.

[DJ Envy]

Jesus.

[Caller]

But anyway, I think it's okay as long as you are on good terms. Not to be, like, spiteful or anything. Just try to interrupt anybody else's life. I think it's okay to wish them a happy birthday. Why? I'm like Jeff. I have kids with my. My children's father's house.

[DJ Envy]

That's different.

[Caller]

Yeah, not really. You want to wish. Birthdays are important. It means, you know, that people are important. They. They had life. And it's not promised these days. So you want to wish everybody good,

[Jesse]

good future endeavor, and then everybody don't end off like. Everybody don't have bad breakups. You know what I'm saying? So if you can still maintain a friendship with somebody that you used to be with, and the lines aren't blurred, nobody has intimate feelings or anything like that, it should be cool.

[DJ Envy]

So, babe, you would go to an ex's funeral, too?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Most definitely.

[Caller]

Yes.

[Jesse]

A couple ex's funerals I go to, right?

[DJ Envy]

To say goodbye. Oh, you want to say.

[Jesse]

You want to make sure they just make sure that. Yeah, just to make.

[DJ Envy]

Jesus Christ. Thank you, mama.

[Jesse]

That they. You know, they gone for.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't wish death on nobody. I ain't wishing. I'm not wishing. The hell y' all talking about? Make sure.

[Jesse]

Coming back, Come back.

[DJ Envy]

Yo, whatever, y'.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All.

[DJ Envy]

Now, if you're just joining us, we're talking about. Do you wish your ex a happy birthday? This conversation comes from one of our digital producers. She actually was talking about this this morning. She's seen Ms. Jackson, which is Floyd Mayweather's ex. She posted a picture of Floyd with no shirt on and said, happy birthday. So that's where it came from. We're opening up the phone lines. 800-585-1051. Hello?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who's this?

[Caller]

This is Tiana. Hey, Tianna.

[DJ Envy]

Hey, Tiana from Cincinnati. Good morning. So let's talk about it. Good morning. Is it cool to wish your ex happy birthday?

[Caller]

I feel like if you are in a relationship or you are involved with someone. Absolutely not. Leave them in the past where they are.

[DJ Envy]

I'm with you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I agree.

[DJ Envy]

I'm with you,

[Charlamagne Tha God]

you said. You sound like you speaking from experience, man.

[Caller]

I mean, I'm just saying that. That you don't need to wish him a happy birthday. Absolutely not. And I am.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Exactly. Listen, whenever you hear somebody say. Whenever you hear a black person say that, they speak it from real experience. Okay.

[DJ Envy]

Thank you, Mama.

[Caller]

Oh, wow. You guys enjoy your day.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You too.

[DJ Envy]

Hello?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who's this?

[Caller]

Yo, this. Mike from Detroit.

[DJ Envy]

Mike from Detroit. 800-585-1051 is the phone lines now. Would you wish your ex a happy birthday, brother?

[Caller]

Every year.

[Jesse]

That's what's up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Cause you still trying to hit.

[Caller]

No, man. Anybody got a hit, man, it's we. Beyond that, man. My ex, we got kids with my. My wife, she don't mind. We like a. A very out of the normal, I guess, you know, similar to something. Situation just in, man. Yeah, Family, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But that's different. Once again, if you have kids, I completely understand. You shouldn't even say X. You should say baby father, baby mother. Like, we shouldn't say there's a difference between an ex and a baby father

[Jesse]

and a baby mother because they're still family.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Caller]

Well, we. What, Charlemagne? It don't matter, man. My wife, now, if she wanted to wish her ex a happy birthday, man, I don't care. That man is an ex.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Do they have kids together?

[Caller]

I'm secure in my relationship. No, they don't.

[DJ Envy]

Why are you thinking about your ex? Like, why you even know when his birthday is? Why you calling him? Like, why you still have his number?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Everybody, that ex shouldn't be important to her no more. People, man.

[Caller]

If people. People want to try so hard to delete their past, it's crazy. That's crazy. You go through your phone and delete all the pictures of your exes, too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's crazy.

[Caller]

It's part of your life. It's something you experience.

[Jesse]

Yeah, most definitely. I do that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What are you talking about?

[Jesse]

Definitely do that. I don't need no picture and no ex in my.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How do you even explain that? Why you got this girl on your phone?

[DJ Envy]

That's different.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know, baby. This picture means something to me. It's important. They go, what? They. Just people. Just people?

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, just people. Hello? Who's this?

[Caller]

Leon.

[DJ Envy]

Hey, Lashan. Good morning. Where you calling from?

[Caller]

Good morning.

[DJ Envy]

VA. Oh, 757 or 804?

[Caller]

757. Yay. Now area Norfolk.

[DJ Envy]

Okay, so we're asking, do you wish your ex a happy birthday?

[Caller]

No, I don't. But I would say it depends. I said it's a status thing to me. Like if I'm single and I just want to post Happy birthday, it's independent. Okay, I'm a post. But if I'm in a relationship, it then becomes a respect thing. I'm very big on treating people how I want to be treated. And I know I wouldn't want my, my, you know, my partner to do it, so I wouldn't do it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I want you. I feel you.

[DJ Envy]

Thank you, man. Hello? Who's this?

[Caller]

Yo, this Carl from Detroit.

[DJ Envy]

Carl, what up though?

[Caller]

What's happening?

[DJ Envy]

Talk to us. Is it cool to wish your ex a happy birthday?

[Caller]

Man? To a certain extent, man. It's the way it should be done, man. Like, I mean, of course, just, you know, in your situation, you know, your dude gonna deal with that. Cause he damn near ain't got no choice but to deal with that. But I feel like average people.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

First of all, that's a hard working Mexican man. That man got options he don't need. Just hilarious. For money. The hell are you talking about?

[Jesse]

That's what it is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, hey.

[DJ Envy]

All right.

[Caller]

Hey, yeah, hey, let y' all tell it. But you know, I feel like, no, that's the way it should be done. Like social media and everything. Posting it everywhere. No, you feel me after a while. And when we lock in, you know, you gotta cut that down a little bit. But yeah, no, like, you know, to a certain extent, G. You feel me? Like, you know, but hey, but dig though. Can I, can I, can I speak on something else real quick?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, sir.

[Caller]

Hey, I'm. I'm working, man. I work at Pepsi, man, and I feel like it's like a catch 22 with some of them things. Like, you know, with that sooner, I, I feel like they gotta show the, the men just as, you know, like if you letting women off what they pay. And I'm not trying to sound like no, no suck, I'm just, I'm just speaking fairness, you feel me?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, if you don't let them put

[DJ Envy]

context, you got to put context. Let me just tell people. So earlier, Mimi reported that a guy was suing because it was an all women's meeting conference and the men weren't

[Charlamagne Tha God]

allowed against Coca Cola. The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission filed a federal Lawsuit against Coca Cola Beverages because of a workplace event that was all women. So there's a guy suing, saying that it was discrimination.

[DJ Envy]

Now, this gentleman said he works for Pepsi. He's saying he would be upset. Go ahead, brother. Now. Now, we know.

[Caller]

I wouldn't. I wouldn't sue me. It was just one of them things is like, you know, you know, men sometimes. And. And like I say, bro, you know, we get the short end of the stick sometimes. So I feel like it just got to be a fair thing. I mean, if you're gonna show them some love and you gotta do the same thing and have paying all that too. You feel me?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know as well as I do, that guy just trying to hit a lick.

[Caller]

That guy saw that to a certain extent.

[Jesse]

Don't take it out on the women. Like, you know, I mean, and that's what he's doing.

[Caller]

I mean, it's being broadcasted. Like, he taking it out on women, but. And actually he's showing the company.

[DJ Envy]

You feel me?

[Caller]

It ain't like he, you know, suing the women. He's just suing the company.

[Jesse]

You know, it's crazy. Why not just go to the HR office and say, yo, can we do something for the men? Like, you know? Cause we need our retreat, too. We need, you know, to a mental space where, you know, a space where we can just vent and let our hang. You know what I'm saying? And we just talk to each other.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Shut up.

[Caller]

I dig it. But who to say he ain't did that? You feel me?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, Dig. Have a good day, bro.

[DJ Envy]

Diggling is a dip. I don't know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, I don't know where you go. But he bought up a good. A good point earlier when he said that if you imagine being posting on social media to your ex, happy born day. I'm not doing it now, you know, now all your people looking like, damn, what's up with Shorty, yo? Yeah, keep wishing such and such her ex happy birthday on social media. Y' all having problems? No, I'm not.

[Jesse]

I'm not. Not doing all that. It's just saying happy birthday is different. Hitting a person's happy birthday is different than texting them that. I mean, then posting them. That's crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. All right, well, that's the moral of the story.

[DJ Envy]

All right, when we come back, we got the latest with Lauren, so don't go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[Jesse]

Hey.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's the world's most dangerous morning show, the Breakfast Club. You know what we didn't do last latest.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Lauren, what didn't we do?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What you didn't tell people to go to vote.rockhall.com you announced the nominee for the 2026 Rock and Roll hall of

[Lauren LaRosa]

Fame and we talked about you voting too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The Wuang Clan, New Edition, Shade, Mariah Carey, Luther Vandross. But they have a thing called a fan vote. You can go to vote.rockhall.com right now and you can do a fan vote for the 2026 inductions. And the reason I thought about that because somebody sent it to me right now and New Edition does not have enough votes. Neither does Wu Tang Clan. Okay? The Black Crows at Oasis and Iron Maiden and the others, Phil Collins are are leading all the votes right now. Luther and Sade and Wu Tang and Mariah and Lauryn Hill and New Edition, they at the bottom. Yeah, they should be.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, they should be leading.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Go to vote.rockhall.com right now and vote for the 2026 Rock and Roll hall of Fame.

[DJ Envy]

That's right. Well, let's get to the latest with Lauren.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, I'm not dumbing myself down. I'm being myself. I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything and everything.

[Jesse]

Little brown girls look at you and go, I want to be like you. Take me through that.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Take me through.

[Jesse]

There she goes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The latest with Laura Lewis on the Breakfast Club. LL Cool Baby talk to me.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So real quick mention at the top of this latest, fans noticed yesterday that Jay Z's wealth went up. So via Forbes, he is now Jay Z is now listed at $2.8 billion net worth. Now last year on Forbes Black Billionaires list, Jay z was number 10 with Oprah and several others above him, but listed at 2.2 billion. But as of today, and they've been updating the last time I checked this this morning, it was as of it was updated on February 20th. But as of today, February 25th, the net his net worth has went up $2.8 billion. And I want to mention that that black billionaires list in the Forbes black in the Forbes billionaires list will be coming out sometime around March and April. We had Jabari Young up here who was talking to us about the list, who is the senior writer at Forbes who will be contributing to that. So take a look out for that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You better worry about your own bank account. Looking at other people, I was just

[DJ Envy]

thinking about like what the hell to see what it is.

[Lauren LaRosa]

People know, people are people. I, I didn't know that there were people that like sat and did this daily professional. I got 2.5 billion.

[DJ Envy]

Like, who wouldn't check?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, oh, what up?

[Lauren LaRosa]

No, listen, I was so interested. I called Jabari this morning. I'm like, hey, good morning. I know it's pretty early, but he said it into the office and I'm like, I saw this morning at like 6am that it said as of one date and now it says as of another. And he explained it and I'm like, oh, I could literally just refresh, refresh, refresh. I would do it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That is inspir. You better worry about your own damn thing.

[DJ Envy]

It was inspiring a long time ago.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm still inspired. We were having a conversation about if artists today could achieve this because and still be as like, out the way as Jay Z is. Because you have to be so forward facing and social media facing now, before

[Jesse]

we came in here, 100. But that mean watches, pockets, like the stock market, they are crazy.

[DJ Envy]

Well, congratulations.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, congratulations. All right, now, shifting gears. So yesterday, maybe Mace Cameron and Treasure Wilson were on It Is what It Is. And they were having a conversation about sports and critiques and they had a conversation about or Treasure Wilson asked the question to the room about a time when someone critiqued you and you couldn't really, like, let it go. And Mace brought up Charlamagne and some of his critiques. Let's take a listen to Mace.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So it seemed like every time something came up, Charlemagne would just talk about my name, like, just go in a negative direction. I didn't know what was the connection that we had, but it just seemed like he always had a negative take about me. I never met this guy. I don't think we've crossed paths. So I remember one time I called DJ Envy and I was like, yo, if somebody's consistently talking about you and I at that time, I had no music out. You know, I had nothing out for you to keep talking about me. It's when you personally make it your business to tear somebody down, that's when it's a problem. They're not doing anything in the public that merits the number one show in the country to be talking about this person. Right. If they're not hot, you shouldn't even be talking about it because it's not relevant to the show. I would sit there and be like, why does this guy just keep talking about me?

[Jesse]

Yeah. That is so crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What? I know. You better shut up. I know you ain't about to start talking about people talking about. I don't.

[DJ Envy]

I don't think Mace Called me, but Mace, I think Mace. Mace stepped to me at Club Live one night. We were at Club Liv, and he was very upset about Charlamagne, continued to talk about him, and we had a conversation. I told him, well, come on the show. I mean, you went from a pastor to a gangster rapper. And everybody has questions, and until you answer those questions, I'm sure everybody's gonna critique you. But he definitely stepped to me at Club Liv. And then that weekend, he ran into Charlamagne, too.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm not saying it's just. Cause I'm sitting here with you, but I watched you on Vlad and your critique of him, like, going from the church, and I thought it was. Was fair. I mean, you are a straight shooter.

[DJ Envy]

That was a nice one. Yeah, used to go in. Oh, it was the same.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It was the same. Listen, Mace, isn't it wrong, but why do any of us critique anything? Like, if you're a sports pundit, if you're a political pundit, if you're a hip hop pundit, any kind. Any type of pundit, then you discuss things that are going on in. In the world. So my commentary on Mace back then, it wasn't anything personal, you know, like Envy just said he was trying to get back into rap after being a pastor. And then there was a debate because I said Mace wasn't a top five bad boy lyricist.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, that was crazy. I don't know why you said that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Those are hip hop combos.

[Lauren LaRosa]

People brought that. There was a conversation happening on Threads yesterday about the fact that you said that and. And people thought that that was crazy. And that was.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't think that's crazy at all.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, no, he's definitely.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't think it's crazy. Bad boy lyricist? Yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Who?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Biggie Smalls. Biggie Jadakiss Styles, Chic and black rock.

[DJ Envy]

I would put Mason at top five.

[Lauren LaRosa]

But who would you take off?

[DJ Envy]

Probably black rock.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why?

[DJ Envy]

Mace gets busy. Like Mace. Mace gets busy. I know we look at Mason. We have been around the world. Yeah, he does those records. But Mace is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Lyrically, he gets busy too.

[DJ Envy]

I'm not saying he does.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

One of the best storytellers hip hop

[DJ Envy]

definitely is, but I wouldn't take Mace out of that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Now, we said if we say top bad boy artist of all time, Mace is two or three.

[DJ Envy]

But I think when you talk about lyrics, I think you talk about Mace. Mace was one of the original punchline kings. Mace gets busy in the. You can't take that from Ace. I don't care if you don't like his dance and been around the world and all the jiggy stuff he used to do. But lyrically, Mase would get busy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But once again, what is the point of talking about any of these things? It's because we talk.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah. Personal opinions.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This is just a hip hop conversation.

[DJ Envy]

But I told him that when I seen him. I said, he needs to come here and talk about. I mean, because you can't go from being a pastor and you're preaching in a church, and then all of a sudden you're putting out gangster raps. It just didn't make sense and he didn't explain it, and we just wanted to know. That was my same conversation when Shine came up in when you're political. I'm never doing those type of music again. And then all of a sudden I'm doing a show. It just. I'm just asking. I just want to know, like, but

[Jesse]

what if he get busy in the church?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He did get busy, by the way. Also, though, I think we've learned in life that, you know, there's ebbs and flows. Like people. People.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

People can do things and then go change their mind. That is. That is absolutely, positively okay, too. Now, back then, it just. Back then, we. I didn't understand that concept. Yeah, but like.

[DJ Envy]

No, but even that as journalists, we can ask the question. We can ask the question. Question.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You can't ask the question. But I think what it is, is Charlemagne's voice echoes so loudly and it sticks because I'm telling you, people brought up comments you made about Mace from, like, years ago. In the comments, I had to go find, like, I had to search YouTube, like, by words.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It was entertaining.

[Caller]

Right.

[DJ Envy]

Don't get it twisted.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It was. You were crazy. I kept it cute. You were. You're a sharpshooter. I kept it real cute.

[DJ Envy]

Look, Charlemagne was a nasty prick.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn.

[Jesse]

A nasty prick is crazy.

[DJ Envy]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What do you remember?

[DJ Envy]

Like, do you remember what he used to say about Drake? He called him something princess. Like.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like said albino princess. See that? When Drake sent the bottle, I think that's a compliment. A pretty albino princess.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, that.

[Jesse]

Yeah, that sounds.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He's not a girl.

[DJ Envy]

A grown man. A grown man. Yes. Now you see why these.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Anyway, salute to Mace. Drop one of clues. Bombs for Mace. Okay. Mason Cam are doing their thing with it. It is what it is. See, when you see Mason Cam together, that looks like what they're supposed to be doing. Like that Mace looks like he's supposed to be right there with his guy, you know, talking about sports. I, I, I salute them.

[DJ Envy]

I see Mace a couple months ago on the plane, and I was like, you coming to the show? And he kind of was like, nah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And by the way, and now I understand why. I do want to say one other thing, too. That is the other thing that, you know, that's why I don't be having a lot of respect for this generation, because all y' all do is sit behind microphones and talk, talk, talk, and chat, chat, chat. Y' all don't ever see nobody. Me and Mace definitely ran into each other.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Y' all ran each other at a club or something, right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It was in. We was in Miami restaurant.

[DJ Envy]

He ran in living me first.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Okay.

[DJ Envy]

And don't. Don't get. Mace pulled me to the side. The club is rocky. He pulled me to the side. I had that conversation. The next day. He ran into Charlotte.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, yes. It was a run in.

[Caller]

Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Mace was like, what's up? You know, so it's like, don't think that you're gonna just be sitting behind these microphones, chatting, running your mouth, and somebody not gonna run into you. That's why I don't be respecting this era, because we actually had the CP people.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And when you saw people, you had to stand on. You better have that same energy.

[Jesse]

And that's one thing about Leonard Laurie McKelvey.

[Lauren LaRosa]

He got too far to stand up,

[Charlamagne Tha God]

you know, shut up. Me and Mate's had a great. Me and Mace had a conversation. Me and Ma's had a great conversation.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes. And I think it makes you better at what you do, too, when you've actually had those run ins, but also when you've had people critiquing you. And I respect Mace for saying that in this as well. Like, he makes sure his critiques are on point because he knows how it feels to be speak critique, Period. Period.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Jesse]

All right.

[Lauren LaRosa]

That is the latest.

[DJ Envy]

All right, Charlemagne, who you giving that down before?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

After the hour. We need a young woman who needs some critique. Okay? Her name is. Her name is Lashana Williams. She needs to come to the front of the congregation. She's from Concord, North Carolina. And this is going to trigger you. If you have kids. We'll discuss.

[DJ Envy]

All right, we'll get to that. Next. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You are a donkey. It's time for Donkey of the Day. Donkey of the Day does not discriminate. I might not have the song of

[DJ Envy]

the day, but I got the donkey today.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So if you ever feel I need

[DJ Envy]

to be a donkey man, hit it with the hero.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, the Breakfast Club.

[DJ Envy]

Who's donkey of the day today?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, Ed Sheeran, Donkey of the day for Wednesday, February 25th goes to 42 year old Lashana Williams of Concord, North Carolina. Lashana is a former. Okay. Former daycare teacher who is serving jail time after pleading guilty in a child abuse case that rightfully so has sparked outrage among child care safety advocates. Okay. Lashana is the epitome of people are in therapy to deal with the people in their lives who won't go to therapy. Because this woman Lashana clearly needed some therapy and because she didn't get none, she's out here projecting onto other people's kids. And I'm telling all you adults right now, projecting your pain on the other people's children is going to cause you to get your ass whipped. Okay. Would you like to know what lashana did that is causing me to say that? Well, let's go to WCNC Charlotte for the report, please.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Well, right now what we know is this case dates back to September of last year happening here at Concord Academy. According to court documents, Lashana Williams was charged after police say she hot glued a three year old child to a chair causing second degree burns. Now tonight, child care safety advocates express something needs to be done. 42 year old Lashana Williams is serving a 10 day jail sentence after pleading guilty to misdemeanor child abuse and contributing to the delinquency of a juvenile. Documents show a three year old wouldn't sit in their chair. Williams used a hot glue gun to put glue on the seat and then sat the child on the chair resulting in second degree burns on the child's upper thigh. Advocates say this case raises bigger questions about child care oversight and safety. Williams was served six months of supervised probation following her release. She must also complete 24 hours of community service and have no contact with the child or the child's family.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Lashana want to be Penny mama from Good Times so bad?

[Jesse]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Don't go into daycare or anything to do with kids if you don't care about kids. It's that simple. In fact, don't get into daycare or anything to do with watching kids. Kids, if you don't love yourself, because if you don't love yourself, you will not love my kids. Tara Robinson, a behavioral therapist said if we can't have a little bit of compassion, then we need to find another job. I agree. Okay. She said we need better people in charge. And if you don't like kids, don't have patience and don't have compassion, don't work in a daycare. It's really just that simple. Furthermore, what am I supposed to do as a parent when I find out an adult did this to my child? Okay? If you've ever read my second book, Shook One, Anxiety playing tricks on Me. I talk about something called parental paranoia, and it's the anxiety that exists simply being a parent. Do you realize, parents, how crazy it is for us to drop our most precious gifts that Jehovah gave us, our souls outside of our body? Do you know how crazy that is just to take our kids to be with complete strangers every day? We don't know these teachers for real. We don't know these people that watch our kids for real. We just really rolling the dice every day, taking a big risk. Because as you can see with this woman, Lashana, all it takes is for her to have one bad day, okay? Her coming to work hurt. Taking that hurt out on your child. And now, Lashana, I might have to hurt you, actually, I gotta hurt you, okay? We have to start getting a little medieval in America. Not only do I want this woman to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, the parents need to get five minutes with her, okay? Father and mother. And the father should be able to hold her while the mother lays hands on her, okay? Belt to ass. Because I'm not, you know, encouraging violence. I just don't know what you expect of parents. What do you expect parents to do when things like this happen to our kids at the hands of other adults? Adults? Why don't y' all think about these things? Why don't y' all think about things like this? Folks like Lashana must not have kids. Because if you have kids, then you know how your kids make you feel. You not playing about yours. So what would make you think another adult is playing about theirs? What happened to the devil? Damn golden rule, okay? Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. If you glue my child to a chair, then you gonna think my foot is glued to your ass. Okay? Super glue, wood glue, hot glue, glue, sticks, gorilla glue, Elmer's glue. I'm gonna make sure this ass kicking specs. I tell you all the time, you have to do your jail math. You have to calculate the cost of the criminal offense. You are about it, okay? And this is one of those times when that assault charge and those lawyer fees would be absolutely worth it. Please give Lashana Williams the sweet sounds of the Hamiltones. Oh, now you are the donkey of the day.

[DJ Envy]

Of the day.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I know she got 10 days in jail and supervised probation. But, boy, she gonna be ducking parents. She gonna be ducking somebody parents in Concord and in Charlotte. Cause ain't no way. Ain't no way.

[Jesse]

It ain't no way she got kids at all. It's like that. Like, that's wild.

[DJ Envy]

Not at all. All right, well, thank you for that donkey today. Now let's open up the phone lines. 800-585-1051. Now, Lauren, you were talking about Halle Berry. She did a recent interview. And what did she say?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's why you got your hair like that this morning. I know.

[Jesse]

That's fine.

[Mimi Brown]

Oh, yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm giving Halle Berry no. Is that what you saying?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Holly scared.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It's. Shut up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn.

[Jesse]

Sh up.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah. So she did Halle Berry sat down on a Sex with Emily podcast. It's like a sexual health and wellness podcast. And they were having a conversation about orgasms. And Halle Berry said that there is one thing she will not do in her relationship, and that is fake and orgasm. Let's take a listen.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You said your sex, it's great.

[Mimi Brown]

How would you say it's different now than it was, say, 20 years ago? It's better now because I can now say to my partner, here's what I want. Here's what I don't want. And to realize that I deserve an orgasm. Also, everybody has faked it because you just want it to be done. Sometimes you just want the pounding to stop.

[Caller]

Just like.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right. Okay, I'm good, too.

[Mimi Brown]

And then you go find your vibrator in the bathroom and you handle it yourself. You get there so that he felt good about bringing us to orgasm, right? So we had to say that we did it so that he would feel good about him. So that's putting his needs before our own. And now I don't do that anymore.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Now, my good brother DJ envy, I'm triggered. I know this is triggering for him because if you've ever read his first book, real, Real Life, Real Love, right? He talks about how he didn't make his wife orgasm for 10 years. I didn't say that whole decade.

[DJ Envy]

That is not in the book.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I read the book. I read the book. I read the book.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And you know what's crazy? The clip with Chloe started going viral again yesterday.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Do we have the clip? Baby, we don't have the clip.

[Lauren LaRosa]

We have the clip

[Jesse]

playing the clip

[Caller]

that

[Charlamagne Tha God]

you really feel like nice girls finish last. No, not Chloe. I want NV experience.

[Mimi Brown]

I do feel.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Oh, I. I thought that one.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I want When Envy trying to explain

[Jesse]

himself on his book.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Right here, explain it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't want to hear this story. I want to hear what he originally told it. Cuz he told the truth. Then when he was fighting for his life on his book tour, after people read the book and asked him questions like, Envy, you didn't make your wife or gather for 10 years.

[DJ Envy]

That is not true. That is not true. You got guys didn't read the book. But real love bestseller. You should definitely go get it. But what I said was I met my wife at 15 and 16. She was 15, I was 16. And when we first started having sex, of course she was my first. I didn't know what I was doing. I used to pound, so I did not make a reach orgasm through intercourse.

[Jesse]

How long for 10 years.

[DJ Envy]

It wasn't 10 years.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It was 10 years.

[DJ Envy]

My mouth game was good.

[Jesse]

Oh, okay.

[DJ Envy]

So she did have an orgasm. Just. I did not know. You know, we didn't. I didn't know her body. She didn't know her body. I didn't know my body. And once we figured it out, it was great. But yes, she did lie. She used to fake it. And we wrote about it.

[Jesse]

Damn.

[DJ Envy]

We wrote about it in the book because a lot of women do that. And you know, if we would have talked about it earlier in our relationship, it would have been a lot better. Why are we talking about me?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Was here though.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She said, I'm [e-mail]. what's that headline say? Lauren LaRosa. What that headline say?

[Lauren LaRosa]

DJ Envy admitted his wife faked orgasm for 10 years. And it's in bold.

[Jesse]

It's big and bleak and bold.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That is crazy.

[Jesse]

How did you learn?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Take it, bro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's why you don't know what you're doing.

[DJ Envy]

Let me show you this tighten up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It hurt me because I thought I was pleasing my wife damn well.

[Lauren LaRosa]

When Gia was here though, she did triggering. When Gia was here, she said that she also had to learn herself as well too, to know what she wanted,

[Charlamagne Tha God]

what she didn't want.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Holly man and Holly bear. That's a common woman experience. I mean, I never faked it.

[DJ Envy]

All right, so what? What's the question, man? Take this away from me. What's the question?

[Jesse]

I think, how did you improve, yo,

[DJ Envy]

that's not the question.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, I think the question is, should women tell their men the truth in those situations? I agree.

[Jesse]

I have a joke about it. It's like, yo, women are not. No, no. Women are not as forthcoming as we should be when something ain't right in the bedroom. Like, you know what I'm saying? Because we don't want to bruise a man's ego. Like, that's just really what it is. We saving y' all whole time. Y' all hurting us or we not being pleased. So you just have to be honest about it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Yes.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Personal experience. You've been through that.

[Jesse]

Yeah, a few times. Especially with young. Oh, my God.

[DJ Envy]

Damn.

[Jesse]

Their way around a vagina at all.

[DJ Envy]

We'll take some phone calls. 800-585-1051. It's in my book. And we've. I've improved. I just want you guys to know that I don't have that problem anymore.

[Jesse]

I'm happy that you asked.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Cause in a second.

[Jesse]

Still a problem.

[Lauren LaRosa]

There are only 12 kids. I hope you figured it out.

[Caller]

Right.

[Jesse]

God damn.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How do we know she did tell us?

[Lauren LaRosa]

She confirmed. She said everything's. We'll try and get.

[DJ Envy]

This is triggering. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlamagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club now, if you're just joining us, Lauren came here with some Halle Berry news and bs. But go ahead, talk to us now.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You mad? Halle Berry was on Sex with Emily podcast and they were talking about orgasms. And Halle Berry said she used to fake it. And now she's never faking orgasm in her relationship.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Good.

[Jesse]

She shouldn't. She's at the age where she shouldn't have to do that. No, don'.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Just tell the truth.

[Jesse]

Tell these men the truth and so they can fix whatever the problem is. Because if they don't. If you don't tell them in the truth, they just gonna keep thinking that they. They tan it up. They tan it out the frame and we beating this up. And it's like.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like how Envy wrote in his first book about how, you know, he didn't make his wife orgasm for 10 years. You know what I mean?

[DJ Envy]

I did not make penetration. My mouth game was good, but penetration. I did not.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Right.

[DJ Envy]

But, you know. And then it came out in an argument. We was arguing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I hope y' all can hear the. Eddie. I hope you heard what I heard just now. He said penetration. Penetration. But.

[Jesse]

I have things. Oh, wow. I was thinking it for a little minute.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What a few.

[Jesse]

Little young, though, because like I said, they don't really know their way around the vagina. They don't. And sometimes you.

[B Dot]

You.

[Jesse]

You trying to save the fracturing of a man's ego. Like you don't Wanna. You don't wanna shatter the ego, but we're willing to not get that at the expense of their feelings.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's whack. A person can't get better if you don't tell us how to get better.

[DJ Envy]

Exactly.

[Jesse]

But the older I got, I'm like, no, I'm not doing this. I'm not doing this no more. So shout out to Halle Berry. But like, she said she'll go and get that rose or her toys. Go in that bathroom and get that.

[DJ Envy]

That's.

[Jesse]

That's what you.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I don't. Unless y' all been together since, like, young, like you and G, I don't even understand how you end up seriously in a relationship with someone who's not phys. And sexually, I can't. Yeah, that's not gonna happen.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

One of the greatest gifts I was ever given was from a homegirl of mine way, way, way, way, way back in the day. And it was called the Ultimate Kiss. Oral Lovemaking. A sensual guide to Oral lovemaking. And it really did teach you how to properly, you know, go down there and do that. And it just taught you how to, you know, properly make even a woman, you know, do her thing through penetration. But, you know, doing that through penetration is rare, though. It's not. A lot of women don't get orgasms because of penetration.

[Narrator]

Yeah.

[Jesse]

And you. And you don't. And it's later in your life that you actually do have an orgasm because you don't know how to do it

[Lauren LaRosa]

or you even recognize what it is. But a lot of it is the sensual and it's the connect. Like, there's a lot of other ways that things lead up to. That's what I'm saying. I don't know how you get to that point.

[Jesse]

You ain't never faking your line ass?

[Lauren LaRosa]

No.

[Jesse]

Never in your life? Never in your Delaware ass life.

[Lauren LaRosa]

No. You have never faked. Because if I've ever had sex and it was horrible, it didn't happen again. I'm not going for that.

[Jesse]

So it was. Oh, but I ain't faking.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, I mean, I'm like, hard conversation.

[Jesse]

Okay, let's go to the phone.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I told you you was trash.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Oh, baby, that don't happen.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm just sad she over there sounding real.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Ain't no real Titans that don't happen. We good.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yo, don't make me do a call out.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It ain't even that many people that's gonna be able to call you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How many lines we got in there, Red? Like 25. What if all 25, first of all.

[Lauren LaRosa]

See, and this is why

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't

[Lauren LaRosa]

have time for this.

[DJ Envy]

Who's this?

[Caller]

Andrea.

[DJ Envy]

Hey, good morning. Talk to us.

[Caller]

Hey. So I think women should be honest and about the bedroom, but we don't as much as we should be. So I definitely lied. I definitely faked this.

[DJ Envy]

You faked it A couple times.

[Caller]

Yeah, for sure. Okay. Why?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What did you gain out of that?

[Caller]

That I just want to get it over with if I wasn't getting pleased. Like. Like Jess said, we try to protect the man ego.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, yeah, but why not tell that man what he's doing wrong so then he can get better? We.

[Jesse]

Cuz we not thinking about it like that.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You just kind.

[Jesse]

You know what I'm saying? You going with it like. Like get there, you know, I think

[DJ Envy]

at 16, I'd have been crushing. 17, I'd have been crushing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why you don't treat the man like. Like if you go to your GYN and your GYN is looking around up there, you got to tell him exactly what's wrong exactly to fix it.

[DJ Envy]

But a man is not a gy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He in there just like the gyn, you might as well tell him what's wrong.

[Jesse]

Especially when they trying to do the little thing. It's like, damn, I did not come for a pelvic exam. You know, when guys do that, you

[Charlamagne Tha God]

know what I'm saying? I hate that man getting his fingers all stank for no reason.

[Jesse]

Yes. Then he wash your hands.

[Lauren LaRosa]

No, don't say yes.

[DJ Envy]

He's saying he making his fingers.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I got.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I got you.

[DJ Envy]

Thank you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I got you. Like, yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Damn, J. Hello?

[Jesse]

Who's this now?

[Lauren LaRosa]

My fingernail falling off.

[Caller]

Good morning, family. How are you?

[DJ Envy]

Talk to us. You had.

[Jesse]

You.

[DJ Envy]

You faked it in a relationship before I have.

[Caller]

Because I don't. You know, you never want to hurt a person feels, but as you get older, you know, you're going to be honest. You know, you. You know, scratch the feelings. How are you gonna learn if you don't know? So, you know, I mean, I'm with Al Kamasutra. Me and my man, we watch porn together. Let's try this. You know, we try to do different things so that we can keep that twerking. Be honest. And if I don't, if I do something that he doesn't like, I want him to tell me.

[Jesse]

Yeah, okay.

[Caller]

I want him to get better.

[DJ Envy]

I agree with you.

[Caller]

Okay.

[DJ Envy]

Thank you, Mama. 800-585-1051. If you're just joining us, we're Talking about Halle Berry. She did a recent interview. And what did she say during the interview? Interview.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So during the interview, she said she is no longer faking an orgasm in her relationship.

[DJ Envy]

Women. Are you faking it? We're talking about Halle Berry now. She broke down faking an orgasm. Let's listen.

[Mimi Brown]

You said your sex, it's great. How would you say it's different now than it was, say, 20 years ago? It's better now because I can now say to my partner, here's what I want. Here's what I don't want. And to realize that I deserve an orgasm. Also, everybody has faked it because you just want it to be done. Sometimes you just want the pounding to stop. So you just say, okay, I'm good too. And then you go find your vibrator in the bathroom and you handle it yourself. You know, we had to get there so that he felt good about bringing us to orgasm. Right. So we had to say that we did it so that he would feel good about himself. That's putting his needs before our own. Yeah. And now I don't do that anymore.

[DJ Envy]

So we're asking 800-585-1051. Ladies, are you faking an orgasm? And are you going to continue to. Hello? Who's this?

[Narrator]

Hello?

[Caller]

Hey, this is Deanna.

[Jesse]

How y' all doing?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Peace. Deanna, how are you?

[Caller]

I'm fine. I just got off work.

[DJ Envy]

Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What's going on?

[Jesse]

Amazing.

[DJ Envy]

Where you work at, mama?

[Caller]

I. I wipe ass for a living.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Oh, and we appreciate you people need that. Caregiver.

[Caller]

Nursing home. I'mma s y'.

[DJ Envy]

All.

[Caller]

I'm just joking. I'm just hyped to be all here.

[Jesse]

I'm just so happy that's what's up.

[DJ Envy]

All right, well, talk to us.

[Caller]

Is that Jess in the background?

[Jesse]

What's up, baby?

[Caller]

Hey, girl.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Hey.

[DJ Envy]

Now talk to us about faking. You've been faking it for a while, like.

[Caller]

Well, with my kids. I got four kids when I was with my twid f. I did use the fake, I guess maybe because I was young.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah.

[Caller]

But now that I'm older, I was listening to Holly Berry. You're not gonna keep on banging me up and be banging me, and I ain't getting nothing. But you being yours. You're not gonna waste my time.

[Jesse]

That's right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I agree.

[Caller]

I'm taking my clothes off and I'm doing all this getting ready, you getting yours, but I ain't getting mad. Yeah, no, that's not gonna work for me.

[DJ Envy]

She said I'm taking my clothes off. I'm laying down.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You're absolutely right, though. We adults, we grown. Like, by the way, I don't even think you got to be an adult and be growing. If you're a woman and you know your body and you know, you and a person are starting to do the nasty. Yeah, tell me what you like so I can learn. I'm trying to learn.

[DJ Envy]

Jay. What's up, Jay?

[Caller]

What's going on, man? How y' all doing up front today?

[DJ Envy]

What's going on, brother? What up?

[Caller]

So listen, Andy, I was in your position. I met my wife when I was 14. She was 13, but we didn't do anything until we was 18 to 19. And from, like, 18 to probably 20, it was a few times that she didn't go there and did not notice it. But then when she would start telling me, like, it'd be argument. She's like, you didn't even do nothing. I was like, but you didn't say that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You didn't see, like, keep it real. So I do.

[Caller]

I do respect the honesty because now we 23 years in, and, hey, she taught me. And that's every time somebody like, my homeboy is like, oh, you gotta ask your wife. Yeah, my wife is. I need to ask my wife. She done me up here. Yes, I got my wife about this.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How did. How did G used to tell you? And because you a dj, she'd be like, you didn't even rock the party. You thought you killed it. Ain't nobody was dancing for real.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Oh, shoot.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Oh, my God.

[Jesse]

You was dj. Shoot.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, my goodness, Jay. So you understand the pain?

[Caller]

Yes. But she never told me when everything was good and we get to our people, like, that's why the other day, you ain't doing that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn.

[Jesse]

Wow.

[Mimi Brown]

Wow.

[Jesse]

The argument that hurts when they use it against you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That ain't right.

[DJ Envy]

But we. We wrote about it in our book, Real Life, Real Love. JCJ understands my pain, but I didn't know, you know, I mean, she was my first. So it's like you had to learn. You had to experience it. There's no guide, right? You watch. You watch a porn back in the day, and all you see is bang, bang, bang, bang.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Taught you how to dj. He taught you how to dj, DJ

[DJ Envy]

Mono, and DJ Clue. So I didn't.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I didn't learn.

[Lauren LaRosa]

When men are learning how to, like, do the. You know how to have y'. All. What y' all be doing right? Y. Do. Y' all talk to each other like,

[DJ Envy]

y' all, like, how do y' all know? Teach me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Only the woman knows her body.

[DJ Envy]

Teach me.

[Lauren LaRosa]

But if you're not with a woman, that is communicating that, right? Like for. For men who are, like, just dating casually and they're not having deep conversations yet, how do they learn?

[DJ Envy]

But that. And that's my point. That's not a conversation you have with your dad. This is something. You watch porn and you think that, oh, I gotta bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The conversation you should have with your dad. Because I remember being with my older cousins when I was young, and they used to be talking about, you know, doing things like eating poom. And I'd be like, oh, that's nasty. And they'd be like, you don't eat pom pom yet. Like, no, that's nasty. I never eat no poom poom. Like, man, when you get our age, you're gonna be eating.

[DJ Envy]

But I will say this, but that's why I wrote the book and I put it in the book so other brothers, they won't feel ashamed to have those conversations.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, no.

[DJ Envy]

Yes, yes, yes, yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, Mr. T. You ain't. You ain't rocking party for 10 years.

[DJ Envy]

Shut up, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You ain't making your wife dance for 10 years.

[DJ Envy]

We have the ladies with Lauren coming up.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes. We have a big, big announcement at the top of the next lady latest.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Lauren LaRosa]

We going to get to it.

[DJ Envy]

Keep playing. I'm popping your cherry over there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn. Don't do me like clue.

[DJ Envy]

Did you shut up, man. What is wrong with you, man?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You got reverb in your boy.

[DJ Envy]

The latest with Lauren is next at the Breakfast Club.

[Caller]

Good morning, Lauren.

[Jesse]

Becoming a straight fat made it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She gets them from somebody that knows somebody.

[DJ Envy]

Details.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm the home girl that knows a little bit about everything.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She be having the latest on

[Caller]

the

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Latest with Lauren LaRosa. Sometimes you have facts. Sometimes you have details. Sometimes you have a little bit of everything.

[Jesse]

Well, it's the latest brought to you

[Charlamagne Tha God]

by top dog Law on the Breakfast Club. Talk to me.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So I told you guys in the last latest that we would have some church announcements in this hour.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Give me some drums. Give me some drum roll. Give me a drum roll.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Announcements in this hour.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

There you go.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So we are here.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let's listen. You know, nowadays I feel like black people need safe spaces to love on each other, to laugh with each other, to learn from each other. So I'm excited to announce that the Black Effect podcast festival is back again this year for us to do just that. Atlanta, Atlanta, Atlanta. We'll Be back on Saturday, April 25, at Pullman Yards for a whole day of some of your favorite live podcasts. We'll be announcing the podcast podcast lineup next week, but we'll have the Black Effect Marketplace, of course. The picture podcast booth is there, of course, and it's all hosted by DJ Envy. Sugar Cookie will be in the building.

[Lauren LaRosa]

That's so dope. You're not doing that dance.

[Caller]

We are.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, we are. As well as Lauren LaRosa. Oh, the haircut is going to be in the building.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm feeling my boy spot.

[DJ Envy]

HBCUs will be in the building. A lot of fun that weekend.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Louisville will be providing the soundtrack. Tickets go on sale March 12th at noon, but you can go to black effect.com podcast festival for all the details.

[B Dot]

That's right.

[DJ Envy]

That's it again. Tickets go on sale March 12, so make sure you save the date. March 12 at noon. That's going down April 25 at Pullman Yards. We're gonna have a lot of fun, of course. Podcast taping, good energy and just the community to be in the building. I can't wait.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, indeed.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So y' all can stop acting. Me too, because everywhere I go, people ask me. So. Black Effect podcast. I mean, black effect.combackslash podcast festival.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Salute to State Farm for sponsoring this year's Black Effect Podcast Festival. State Farm. State Farm. State Farm. We appreciate you, man, for riding with Black Effect. Salute to State.

[DJ Envy]

Salute to State Farm.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah. So we'll see you guys in Atlanta. But talking about Atlanta, you guys remember some time back, we were reporting on the shooting of T. Hood, the artist in Atlanta. He was shot, and then he passed away. And this was following an incident that involved Kai Frost, which is the son of Kirk and Rashida from Love and Hip Hop Atlanta, and their daughter, who was apparently dating T. Hood at the time, Kelsey. So Kirk and Rashida were actually filming during some of this. And on an episode preview that dropped from Love and Hip Hop this week, they talk about just the weight of going through all of that behind the scenes. Let's take a listen.

[Jesse]

This has been such a difficult journey for us just trying to figure out how to navigate the best way we can as a family. On top of that, my daughter Kelsey, we found out the depths of the relationship she was in with a young gentleman who lost their life. But the mental emotional toll that has taken on all of us is overwhelming emotionally.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

There's a lot of down days for both. For them, mentally, it's been horrible. Nights with no sleep, nights when your phone Ring you jumping up out your sleep praying that nothing else is going wrong. It's just one of them places you don't want to be. Kai and Kelsey being as close as they was. Kelsey is the big sis to the little brother. Like, he looked up to her. So it's just not a good thing. That's horrible, man. I wonder if that's therapeutic for them, like. Like unpacking that trauma on the show because they got to relive it all over again and talk about it all over again.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I was gonna say I can't imagine that it will be because it makes people call you. It makes me. I saw the comments and so many of their friends were in the comments and other celebrities were in the comments. Just sending them love. But it makes you want to reach out and make sure they're okay. And they probably got past a lot of that stuff or are trying to actively because it's still an open investigation, too.

[DJ Envy]

I was gonna ask, was he charged?

[Lauren LaRosa]

The last reports, the last known reports were that this was sent from the Gwinnett county PD the police department to the d. A. They are looking at it as self defense. REM Conversation changed, but that was the last day. But there is still a charge that can come Kai's way from what I see. But no, nothing happened. Nothing as of yet.

[DJ Envy]

Okay.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[Jesse]

I love Kirk and Rashid and they have been living their lives on TV for the last, what, 10, 12? Yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah. Yes. Now, as we wrap, I did want to take some time to announce that the NAACP image awards will go down this weekend. But they've already dropped some of their, like, virtual awards. And I saw that cardi B, she made history. So she was nominated for outstanding female artist for am I the drama. She was a nominated for outstanding album for am I the drama and outstanding hip hop and rack song for every

[Charlamagne Tha God]

time Dropping the clues bombs for big body.

[Mimi Brown]

Yes.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And so this now puts her hold on. I want to make sure I get this correct.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, we just started radio. You don't have to.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Sorry, y'. All.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Sorry.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I just want to make sure I get her.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's just right here. I know we on Netflix too, but you don't have to talk.

[Jesse]

I'll get it right.

[Lauren LaRosa]

But the image awards are going down this. This weekend. The virtual awards are already happening. Kendrick Lamar and Don Lemon have also sweeped in the virtual awards as well, too. Dang. I can't find it. But it will happen on February 28th at 8pm on BET this Saturday.

[DJ Envy]

And she's selling out every show Right. Cardi B is Y. Top of the top.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Still selling every show. But chart data on X just posted yesterday that the combination of her shows so far she's made like over 11 point something million dollars. Right. And one of the shows alone put her in like a historic category because she's made over $2 million just in one night, like for one show in the US and it puts her in this category with like Nicki Minaj and like all these other like, she's like top four female rappers that have ever been able.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

When is she coming to New York? New Jersey era?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Let me look. I believe it's March 20th.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm gonna get us in the march, man. We gonna go. We're gonna go. I'm gonna get us a sweet.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I am staying off my phone.

[DJ Envy]

Salute to Body.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Don't get on Twitter this time.

[DJ Envy]

I was asking. And Body doesn't have an opener, Right. It's just her.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Correct?

[Mimi Brown]

It's her.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah. So from what my friend told me who went in la, there's no opener. She will bring out people.

[Jesse]

Say it.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah. She'll bring out people on songs, but no opener. And she's changing. Very insane. Goodlook. But like these are real costume outfits in between acts. And no delays the show.

[Jesse]

Like they said her team is everything.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Holding it down.

[DJ Envy]

Wait to see her in too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because I love. I love stories like that interview, you know. You know when you watch somebody like Cardi and you see her from the very beginning.

[DJ Envy]

That's right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We had her at the Breakfast Club. Day parties way, way back in the day. Way even before Bodak yellow music. To see that, to see her doing arenas now, I might cry.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And so I forgot about that. How you forget about that?

[DJ Envy]

We used to do these day parties that. I miss all the parties. CIA weekend and all. And Body was. Barty came out to one of them.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, she. Body did it for like two years in a row.

[DJ Envy]

Two years 50 came out to one of them. Wale came out to one of them.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who else?

[DJ Envy]

A lot of artists would come out to him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Absolutely.

[DJ Envy]

Really Dope.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Go ahead.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, it was funny because I remember back in the day, at the time, Shaft was our manager and I was like, I want. We want to book Body for the next two years at this price. He was like, why? I said, I already know where this going.

[DJ Envy]

And I'm glad. I'm glad that happened because we wouldn't have been able to afford her the second year.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Love that.

[Narrator]

That.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Well, I wanted to mention so that NAACP Image Award, like history that she broke. She became the first female rapper this century to win both outstanding female artists and outstanding album. Now, outstanding female artist that this. She's the first female rapper to win that in the category since Lauryn Hill in 1999 with those virtual awards that I just mentioned. So, yeah, and I gotta let the people know, as we rap, no act any accident, big or small, y' all call Top Dog law. They sponsored this segment. Those my guys. Guys.

[B Dot]

All right.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Not yet. But I think I. I think we should go to dinner.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Met Top all the dog. All right.

[DJ Envy]

But that is the latest with Lauren. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club now, Charlemagne. What we doing for Black History Month, man?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

For Black History Month. My guy, B Dot, man. You know, he does a podcast called I didn't know, maybe you didn't need on the Black Effect Podcast network where he tells you some things about black history that you may not have known. And today he's going to talk to you about Ethiopia, the African empire Europe couldn't break.

[Narrator]

The African empire that Europe couldn't break. Introducing Ethiopia. No, it alls. Welcome back to another episode of the most anticipated podcast on the Black Effect Podcast network, especially in February. It's entitled I didn't know. Maybe you didn't either. And I'm your host, B Dot. And in 2026, I want to go to Africa. Johannesburg, Ghana. Do they like us in Nigeria? Because I read in the comments on Instagram they got some real bad words for black Americans in Nigeria. Anywho, this week you need your digital passports because we're traveling all around the world discovering black history because the origin story for black folks folk ain't enslaved in America after being kidnapped in Africa. If your version of African history is everybody got colonized, this episode is about to fix that. But before we jump into the episode, it is imperative, it is customary that I give you three of the most useless facts you'll never need. Never. Not a day in life. Up first, Ethiopia is one of the only African nations to successfully resist European colonization. The second useless fact, in 1896, Ethiopia defeated Italy in a full scale war. And your third useless fact is that victory shook Europe so bad they tried to pretend that it never happened. Which is why we've got today's episode.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I didn't know.

[Caller]

Maybe you didn't know.

[Jesse]

I didn't know.

[Caller]

Maybe you didn't.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I didn't know.

[Jesse]

I didn't know.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I didn't know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I didn't know.

[Narrator]

All right, let's set the scene. It's the late 1800s. Europe is carving up Africa like a buffet. Britain, France, Belgium, Italy. Everybody grabbing their own pieces of land, their own resources and people. Italy looks over at Ethiopia and says, that one's next. And Ethiopia says, the devil is a lie. You ain't got a snowball and a microwave's chance of conquering nothing over here. My stepdad used to say that all the time. You ain't got a snowball in a microwave. Chance. Anyways, Led by menelik ii, Ethiopia wasn't guessing, hoping or improvising. See, they studied the European tactics. They stockpiled modern weapons. They unified their people, they prepared for war. Menelik's wife, she was an empress named tetu bato. She personally led troops in the battle. She commanded the northern forces at Ottawa and cut off the Italian water supply. A whole military strategist. And when Italy invaded Ethiopia put built to Italy at the Battle of Adwa. I mean decisively. It was 17,000 Italian troops, and Ethiopia had a hundred thousand plus soldiers. Italy lost 40% of his 17,000 troops troops in a single day. March 1, 1896. That wasn't no symbolic resistance. Our military dominance and the impact was global, man. Black folk all across the world was celebrating Ethiopia. That was proof that Africa ain't weak. Black leadership worked. Colonization was not our destiny. Ethiopia became a symbol. From Marcus Garvey to pan African movements, Ethiopia stood as evidence sense that black sovereignty was possible. Take the Ethiopian flag, for example. Green, gold and red. That became the template for independence. Flags all across Africa. Ghana, Senegal, Mali, Cameroon. All echoes of Ethiopia's defiance. I love that. For us, this almost goes back to week two, hidden in plain sight. And that's exactly why the story got minimized. Because if people learned Africa could win, colonization starts looking illegal, not inevitable. A century after Ethiopia embarrassed a European empire, Carter G. Woodson launched negro history week to preserve stories just like this. Because victories are dangerous to empires. Woodson knew if black people only learn about losses, they'll never imagine power. Ethiopia proved that power was real.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I didn't know.

[Narrator]

Maybe you didn't either.

[DJ Envy]

Congrats.

[Jesse]

Your passport gets stumped.

[Caller]

Next up, Jamaica.

[DJ Envy]

Salute to B. Dot. Now, Jess, you got a fact?

[Jesse]

Absolutely. And I know y' all didn't know this one, so you asked me a couple weeks ago, who made the Jerry curve, and it is Jerry Redding. And he's white, right? And he made it in the late 1970s. But it was popularized by the black community when colmer Cattrall. He's African American, and he created the curly kit in 1980, making it affordable for the public. You didn't know that because you asked me that last week, and I didn't have the answers for you, but did some reading because that's what I do now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who asked you about. Who asked you? Who. Who created the Jericho Envy? I absolutely know who created the Jerry curl.

[Jesse]

Yeah. Cause I just told you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, I knew it was Jerry wright in the 70s.

[Caller]

Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He was white. That was the whole study about it.

[Jesse]

Okay. What else did he. What else did he create?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know.

[Jesse]

Hair conditioner. What is it? The ph balance.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But he was cleanser. He was in the hair care.

[Jesse]

Yes, he was. That's what he.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what he was known for. He was a hair care entrepreneur.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Right?

[DJ Envy]

He.

[Jesse]

He made it.

[Caller]

It.

[Lauren LaRosa]

All right.

[Jesse]

But Comer Cattrall, the black man, popularized it in the 1980s, making the curly kit in 1980s. And there's no, you know, official first person to wear it but Michael Jackson, Lionel Richie, and my daddy. Who else?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[Jesse]

And Rick James.

[Lauren LaRosa]

They.

[Jesse]

They were the first comers. The first comers. Gotcha the way. Yes. Ice Cube. But this was later.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The funny thing about the Jerry curl is you're gonna have to explain what that is, but you kind of got one.

[Jesse]

No, I don't. Have a drink.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't. You give it a little boy with the Scully on, and she got the

[DJ Envy]

Jerry curl with the baby head.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, I've never seen that.

[DJ Envy]

That's different. That's different.

[Jesse]

Hey, yo, whatever. But people confuse it for the California curl because so many Californians as you just named Easy E. Ice Cube, and all of them, they were wearing it. And, you know, it was. It was very popular back then, but got you. It was originally the Jury curl, not the California curl. So.

[DJ Envy]

I did not know that. Thank you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I know you did.

[Jesse]

And he didn't either.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I didn't know that Jerry curl was made by a white man. That was a joke back in the day, in the 80s, in the 90s. Think about it. If all these black people walking around with a curl and then they start making joke about, are you wearing that white man hairstyle? You know, a white man invented that. People. Like a white man invented the Jerry curl.

[Jesse]

That's crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Jesse]

And people still walk around greasy and everything. That is wild.

[DJ Envy]

All right, well, you got a positive no shout out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I do. It comes From Robert Green, man, 48 laws of power. You know, very interesting book. You know, read that a couple of times in my life. But there's certain things I. I take from it, and one of the things I take from it is don't ever have an emotional response, okay? An emotional response to a situation is the single greatest barrier to power, okay? It is a mistake that will cost you a lot more than any temporary satisfaction you might gain by expressing your feelings. Always have strategic responses, not emotional ones. Have a great day. Breakfast club bitches woke up. Wake you up.

[DJ Envy]

Wake that ass up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Lauren LaRosa]

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