FULL SHOW: Michael Jackson Estate Is NOT Feeling Sexyy Red's 'Beat It' Cover + Carl Anthony Payne Interview

Summary

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The Breakfast Club Podcast: Michael Jackson Estate Is NOT Feeling Sexyy Red's 'Beat It' Cover + Carl Anthony Payne Interview

February 12, 2026 | Hosts: DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious (out, Lauren LaRosa filling in), Charlamagne Tha God | Guest: Carl Anthony Payne II

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Breakfast Club dives into trending cultural moments, including the backlash from Michael Jackson's estate against rapper Sexyy Red's Beat It cover, and features a rich, insightful interview with actor and comedian Carl Anthony Payne II, known for his roles on The Cosby Show and Martin. The hosts also break down current headlines—ranging from Capitol Hill hearings to OnlyFans state-by-state spending—engage with callers on love, life, and struggles, and deliver an unfiltered exploration of celebrity, legacy, humor, and Black culture.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Check-in & Banter [02:30–05:45]

• Hosts reflect on gratitude and spirituality.
  • Charlamagne: “Every day you wake up, you have choices... some people submit their will to their lower nature, instead of submitting their will to their higher nature, which is God.” [03:12]
• Lively teasing about physical appearance and playful shade between hosts.

2. News Headlines: Capitol Hill, Voting Rights, Child Support & OnlyFans [06:25–38:42]

A. DOJ & the Epstein Files [06:25–10:01]

• Jemmi Brown reports on AG Pam Bondi's contentious congressional hearing over Epstein files.
  • “She defended the department’s actions, rejected accusations of a cover up, and repeatedly sparred… At times, the exchanges, they were very, very heated and turned personal.” [06:25]
• Heated moment: Rep. Ted Lieu accused Bondi of lying under oath about evidence in the files. [07:19]

B. The SAVE Act and Voter Registration [10:01–12:58]

• House passes the SAVE Act, requiring proof of citizenship to register to vote in federal elections.
  • “You have to have proof of citizenship before you register to vote in federal elections… what we added... is a very common sense requirement that you have a photo ID if you’re going to vote.” – Speaker Mike Johnson, as summarized by Mimi Brown [10:01]
• Hosts criticize the act as voter suppression, causing major obstacles for seniors, married women, and low-income citizens.

C. Child Support & Passports [34:15–35:04]

• State Department considering revoking passports for those with large unpaid child support.
  • Charlamagne: “No more Dubai, no more Tulum, no more Turks and Caicos until you take care of your kids.” [34:16]

D. OnlyFans Spending by State [35:04–38:34]

• Top states for OnlyFans spending: CA, TX, NY, FL, IL—over $300 million spent in CA in 2025.
  • Lauren jokes: “I guess this is a great time to tell everybody I’m launching Envy Feats.” [36:20]

3. Trending Topics & Celebrity News

A. Michael Jackson Estate vs. Sexyy Red [25:25–26:33]

• DJ Envy details call from MJ’s estate: “We were totally unaware of this. The use of this music is unauthorized—and unauthorized was stressed to me very, very heavily.” [25:30]
• Lauren: “They want videos and everything taken offline, which at this point is so viral… how do you go get every video?” [26:19]
• Charlamagne: “You can’t put the toothpaste back into YouTube.” [26:30]

B. The “Rock & Roll Hall of Fame” vs. Black Music [67:32–73:54]

• Debate over Gene Simmons’ comments that “rap doesn’t belong in the Rock ’n’ Roll Hall of Fame.”
  • Gene Simmons: “Hip hop does not belong in the Rock and Roll hall of Fame. Nor does opera, symphony orchestras.” [68:57]
• Charlamagne: “I don’t know why they continue to call it the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, but, you know, put all these other genres into it. It is confusing.” [69:42]
• DJs agree: black artists are original architects of “rock & roll.”

4. Carl Anthony Payne II - In-depth Interview [39:09–65:30]

A. Experiencing 80s/90s Black Fame

• Carl recounts the moment he realized he was famous: “I was at a New Edition concert... all these girls and all these people started coming down, and it was pointing in my direction… and I was like, chaos, but it was me.” [40:34]
• Charlamagne: “80s and 90s fame. Nobody will ever achieve that level… ever again.” [41:12]

B. Cultural Shifts in TV & Celebrity

• On the decline of Black-led TV: “Social media killed the celebrity, in my opinion. Now anybody can… and then there’s no mystery.” [42:06]
• “It used to be a very special club that you had to have talent to be a part of… and you had to really have something.” [43:00]

C. Legacy & Influence

• Calls out Cosby/‘Martin’ era impact: “The 80s, the 90s… it was positive. It was Black people depicted in a right light.”
• Martin’s ‘Cole’ character: “I felt like he and I were very close, Martin and I in terms of, like, characters… so I gotta do something to kind of separate us.” [47:34]

D. On Loss and Grief

• On losing co-star Thomas Mikal Ford (Tommy): “He was my best friend in real life… It was rough. It was really rough… I had to keep all of my stuff together… but what it did teach me was how random and how short life is.” [53:08–55:01]
• “You gotta call your people. You got to check them. You got to just say, what’s up?” [56:00]

E. Navigating Fame & Stereotypes

• On being forever “Cole” or “Cockroach”: “It happens every day. It happened in a parking lot across the street… I’m never offended by it… God put me in a position to make an impact.” [59:06]
• Discusses getting fired from The Cosby Show (myth-busting): “It’s not true… I never spoke on it. I let people run wild with all kind of stories… that’s the stupidest thing ever.” [61:47]

F. Relationship with Cast & Legacy

• Despite rumored tensions, says of Malcolm-Jamal Warner: “We’re cooler as adults than we were during that time… we were kids, man.” [63:11]

G. Influence on Others

• Jess Hilarious, emotional: “I grew up watching you… I never thought… I would grow up and meet them one day… and you watched me and you laughed because I’m funny.” [65:11]
• Carl: “Congrats. You’re right where you’re supposed to be. You’re on your way.” [65:22]

5. Donkey of the Day [75:03–82:11]

• Charlamagne spotlights HGTV’s Nicole Curtis, whose show Rehab Addict was canceled after she used a racial slur in a bizarre on-camera outburst.
  • Charlamagne: “White people is having secret meetings, and they got secret languages and secret terms that we know nothing about. And they are involving some of our greatest colloquial… terms.” [74:41]
• Extended riff on how “fart n—” is apparently a recognized meme insult per ChatGPT—deeply surreal.

6. Relationship & Advice Segment [83:00–93:50]

• Caller Shannon: Dilemma—partner won’t celebrate Valentine’s Day due to grief; hosts advise communication but also empathy and acceptance. [83:20–86:28]
• Roxanne: Two-year relationship, boyfriend says he’ll never fall in love due to past heartbreaks. Lauren: “He don’t look at you as, you know, a wifey material… just a good piece of ass.” Charlamagne: “Tell him you can’t buy the cow, he ain’t getting no milk.” [87:23–88:33]
• Britney: Lost expensive perfume gift, seeks advice; Charlamagne offers to chip in for a replacement. [90:30–92:38]

7. Black History Month Segment [101:37–105:55]

• B Dot presents the story of George Crum, Black/Native American chef who invented the potato chip (via petty to an annoying customer).
  • “George Crumb, space ain’t on none of the bags. But again, that’s infrastructure. A moment of creativity that becomes a permanent feature of daily life.” [103:44]

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Memorable Quotes & Moments (with timestamps)

• On gratitude and faith:
  “Every day you wake up, you have choices... some people submit their will to their lower nature, instead of submitting their will to their higher nature, which is God.” – Charlamagne [03:12]

• On the SAVE Act (Voter ID):
  “So basically they just made it more difficult to vote.” – Charlamagne [11:28]

• On OnlyFans money:
  “I guess this is a great time to tell everybody I’m launching Envy Feats.” – Lauren LaRosa [36:20]

• MJ Estate vs. Sexyy Red:
  “We were totally unaware of this. The use of this music is unauthorized—and unauthorized was stressed to me very, very heavily.” – DJ Envy, quoting estate [25:30]

• Legend status:
  “80s and 90s fame. Nobody will ever achieve that level of fame ever again. The world is just too different.” – Charlamagne [41:12]

• Culture representation:
  “The 80s, the 90s… it was positive. It was Black people depicted in a right light. Like, I don’t know what happened.” – Charlamagne [41:41]

• On Cosby firing rumors:
  “It’s not true… I never spoke on it. I let people run wild with all kind of stories… that’s the stupidest thing ever.” – Carl Anthony Payne II [61:47]

• On loss and life:
  “It was rough… what it did teach me was how random and how short life is, man. You can’t take nothing for granted.” – Carl Anthony Payne II [55:01]

• On relationship expectations:
  “Tell him you can’t buy the cow, he ain’t getting no milk.” – Charlamagne [88:25]

• Black History Note:
  “Every bag you open is a tribute to a man most people never learned about… George Crum.” – B Dot [104:14]

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Final Thoughts / Tone

The episode was vibrant, irreverent, and emotionally resonant—blending sincere homage to Black media legacies with the hosts' trademark humor and no-holds-barred takes. The extended interview with Carl Anthony Payne stood out both for nostalgia and its insights on culture, fame, and resilience.

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For listeners who missed the episode:
Expect laughter, deep takes on Black culture and legacy, real-world headlines, unfiltered advice, and an honest celebration of Black comedians and actors. Key moments—especially the Carl Anthony Payne interview—offer heart and history well beyond the viral headlines.

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Transcript

[DJ Envy]

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[Mimi Brown]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Lauren LaRosa]

You know, we joke all the time on our show and it seems like we hate on each other, but in real life, it's all love here, and that's family. And that's why this message from the Blue Square Alliance Against Hate really, really matters. Because real hate isn't jokes. It's real people getting targeted, like the kid who gets singled out at school in the commercial during the Big Game. But what stood out to me was someone choosing to show love instead of ignoring it. If you saw that Blue Square commercial, you know. And if you want to show support, sharing the Blue Square is one way you stand for love and not hate.

[Jess Hilarious]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wake you up.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Wake that ass up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Program your Alarm to Power 105.1 on iHeartRadio. Good morning, USA. Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Jess is out. What's up, Lauren?

[DJ Envy]

Good morning, Charlemagne.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The God peace to the planet. It's Thursday. Hey, how y' all feel out there? I feel blessed. Black and highly favored. Happy to be here another day to serve our beautiful listeners. Good morning. Good morning. Man, I feel great. How y' all feel?

[DJ Envy]

I feel great. I feel blessed.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You should be.

[DJ Envy]

What you mean?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What you mean? You should feel blessed. Oh, I should.

[DJ Envy]

You said you should be. Like. Like. God has an option not to bless you.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You're alive.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, that. No, God will always bless you, but you have an option to lean into it or not.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Every day you wake up, you have choices. Some people, you know, believe it or not, lean into the other direction. They submit their will to their lower nature instead of submitting their will to their higher nature, which is God.

[DJ Envy]

No.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Every morning.

[DJ Envy]

Every morning I pray that I just back up and let Jesus take the wheel.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You be backing up on Jesus. That's crazy.

[DJ Envy]

What?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's wild. The fact that.

[DJ Envy]

Why would you say that?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I've seen you do that.

[DJ Envy]

And we are like the six foot. So we're close to God. God. I know he did not mean that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

God. Don't nobody know my heart like God.

[DJ Envy]

My pastor told me that people who say that God don't really even be caring to know no heart. It's about what you actually say at your mouth.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What the hell kind of pastor you got?

[DJ Envy]

Is he trying to keep you accountable?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's not true.

[DJ Envy]

God know my heart is. That's a cop out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't believe that. Because God knows that people can say anything. It's about your actions and your deeds. So it's definitely about what's in your heart and your character and how because.

[DJ Envy]

You tithe, you could tell me. I back it up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

There's plenty of pastors that get up on that stand every Sunday and say anything and be out here sleeping with the. All the women in the front row.

[DJ Envy]

I don't know how we got here. Envy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How.

[DJ Envy]

How are you this morning?

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm trying to see if Charlemagne got an elbow. Ass head. Does he have an elbow acid?

[DJ Envy]

It's a thumb. It's a thumb.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Drake looks like a thumb with eyebrows. I don't look like a thumb.

[DJ Envy]

Take your head off. Don't it give thumb or big toe? Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No. No. Nothing about me look like a foot.

[Lauren LaRosa]

All right. Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, good morning.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Let's. Let's start the show. Cockroach will be joining us this morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm calling that man. That man that's called Anthony Payne ii. Okay.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And by the way, you call him cockroach like he's. They haven't done other iconic roles like Cole for Martin.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Mimi Brown]

Yes.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What are you talking about? Cole will be joining us.

[Lauren LaRosa]

But I just, you know, it's cockroaches. You know, I was a Cosby show fan and Cockroach.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You wasn't a Martin fan. Stop calling, man. That's disrespectful. That man got a name. You're right.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

You're right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But I call you. What was your name? Shrimp.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Shrimp.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Shrimp.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[Lauren LaRosa]

All right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Sugar Cricket.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Nobody calls me Sugar Cricket.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, they do.

[DJ Envy]

Zip your shirt up. Envy. What is happening? Ever since the super bowl, everybody just tapping into this.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You see what I'm saying? And what was that you. What was that call you just screamed up?

[DJ Envy]

Envy up here with his shirt zippy.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You want to be Dominican Morning. You want to be Dominican Donald up a man.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Cuz he's pull down. Donald man.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Huh?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I said pull Donald man. I thought you was having a stroke.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Said pull Donald Mar up. All right, well, let's get the show cracking. Call. Anthony Payne will be joining us this morning. He has some comedy shows. He's going to be in Harlem. He's going to be in Brooklyn. He's going to be in Jersey. He's going to be all over the Tri State. And then we're going to be just talking to him about his career. So we're going to be talking to him and we got front page news next to the. Yeah, that's right. Today is Gucci Mane's birthday. So it's only right we start the show with Gucci. This is Steady Mob and featuring Lil Wayne, it's the Breakfast Club.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Good morning.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Get your ass up. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Jess. Hilarious Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get into some front page news. Jess is out six. Lauren LaRosa is filling in. Let's start off with some quick sports. Cooper flag. He is injured. He suffered an injury. He will miss Thursday's game against the Lakers and will also miss the 2026 Rising Stars game during All Star Wars.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How convenient. You just get hurt during Black History Month, huh, Cooper? You don't want to play the rest of Black History Month? You know you're South African, right? Did I tell you? I told you that before, right?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Cooper, Flag is not South Africa.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

South Africa. He's white. South Africa.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Damn South Africa. Morning, Mimi.

[Mimi Brown]

Good morning, Envy. Lauren Charlemagne. How y' all doing this morning?

[DJ Envy]

Good morning.

[Mimi Brown]

Good morning. So we start this morning with a tense and very combative hearing on Capitol Hill. Attorney General Pam Bondi. She spent nearly five hours defending the Justice Department's handling of the Jeffrey Epstein files as lawmakers accused the department of mismanaging the release and exposing. Exposing sensitive information about victims. The documents, they were supposed to be fully released under a law passed last year with only limited redactions. But since their publication, the department has faced criticism on how names were redacted and how private information still became public. And during the hearing, Bondi, she. Bondi, she forcefully pushed back. She defended the department's actions, rejected accusations of a cover up and. And repeatedly sparred with Democratic lawmakers. At times, the exchanges, they were very, very heated and turned personal. Let's listen to the exchange between Pam Bondi and California Congressman Ted Lieu.

[B Dot]

I believe you just lied under oath. There is ample evidence in the Epstein file.

[DJ Envy]

Don't you ever accuse me of a crime.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

I believe you just lied under oath.

[B Dot]

And this is on videotape.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You said there's no evidence of crime.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

I'm showing you. Here is a witness statement who called.

[B Dot]

Into the FBI's Threat Operation Center. He drove Donald Trump around in limo.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

He overheard what Donald Trump said to.

[B Dot]

Jeffrey on his cell phone.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

And he met a girl who said.

[B Dot]

She was by Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She later had her head blown off.

[B Dot]

And officers at the scene said that.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Could not have been suicide.

[B Dot]

No one at the Department of Justice interviewed this witness. And you have not held a single man accountable.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Shame on you.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

If you had any decency, you would.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Resign right after this hearing. Jesus Christ. I'll tell you one thing, I hate hearing Ted Lou say she lied on the oath because saying that means nothing. Who's gonna hold her accountable? Who's gonna prosecute her for lying on the oath? Because if the roles are reversed, they wouldn't hesitate to prosecute.

[Mimi Brown]

Very true. She also spent much of her time defending President Trump and did not directly answer several questions from lawmakers about transparency and accountability. Let's listen to that. Have you apologized to President Trump? Have you apologized to President Trump, all of you? I find it interesting that she keeps going.

[DJ Envy]

President Trump, the greatest president in American history. You sit here and you attack the president and I am not going to have it. He is the most transparent president in the nation's history. Donald Trump. The Dow, the Dow right now is over. The dow is over 50,000.

[Mimi Brown]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Our attorney general supposed to operate without partisanship?

[Mimi Brown]

Yes, they are. They are very much so. Very much so. She was also given the opportunity. There were several Epstein survivors seated in the hearing as that debate unfolded. Vondie, she, they asked her, do you want to apologize for how the Justice Department has handled the release of these files? She declined. At this hearing, it was meant to bring clarity, to examine whether the department fully cooperated and comp complied with the law. But instead it turned into a heated political showdown with those sharp exchanges, personal attacks which overshadowed of course the broader question lawmakers say that they wanted answered. So very heated exchange there. And before the next election, you may want to double check with, with yourself or with your parents because I know a lot of people, they have their parents still hold on to some of these documents, but you want to make sure that you actually have them at home because the House has passed the, the SAVE Act. So let's listen to Speaker Mike Johnson on what the SAVE act is.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

All this Save America act does is it enhances this.

[Gene Simmons]

The, the SAVE act, which you've already.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Passed twice before, which says that you.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Have to have proof of citizenship before.

[Gene Simmons]

You register to vote in federal elections.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

And the second part of it, what.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We added tonight and what is part.

[Gene Simmons]

Of the Save America act is the second piece, the very common sense requirement.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

That you have a photo ID if you're going to vote.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That sounds too good.

[Mimi Brown]

So he's symbolizing that just a little bit. So the bill will require voters to show proof of US Citizenship when registering to vote in federal elections. But that means a driver's license alone would not be enough. Voters would need documentation such as your passport, your birth certificate to prove your citizenship. And supporters say the SAVE act, it strengthens the election process. But opponents say it would create additional hurdles for eligible voters, especially people who do not have easy access to those documents, including seniors, married women whose names have changed, low income Americans. Let's listen to Rep. James McGovern on that.

[B Dot]

What we are debating is whether we.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Are going to believe the BS conspiracy.

[B Dot]

Theories cooked up by Donald Trump and.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

MAGA Republicans about whether or not elections can be trusted in this country. Who asked for more red tape. Did Jim Crow call? I mean, that's what this bill is about.

[DJ Envy]

Vote.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

It's not about voter id. It's about voter registration and it's about voter suppression.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So basically they just made it more difficult to vote because you need more forms of id pretty much.

[Mimi Brown]

But that will, you know, a lot of people don't have access to that. Or if they do have access to that, they're going to have to go get it. And it's going to take time. People in rural areas, so they're pointing to, you know, trying to marginalize people from actually voting right now. And so people, they're, they're getting the word out, or Democrats are trying to get the word out that this is what's happening. You know, Donald Trump and the administration is trying to do. But this measure has not, it's only cleared the House. It still has to go to the Senate where Democrats are supposed to are expected to vote it down. So we'll, we'll see what happens with that. But they've been talking about the SAFE act for a really long time.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

If you born in the 1900s, you're going to catch hell finding that birth certificate of that Social Security card. Okay, it's, it's on you. It's in your mama house somewhere under the bed.

[Mimi Brown]

That's what. Yes, that's what I was saying. Some people's parents still have theirs, so you may need to call your mom and look under the mattress or something.

[DJ Envy]

I'm just sitting here like, dang, I'm childish because my mom still got my birth certificate, but there's a lot of us out there.

[Lauren LaRosa]

No, no, I got mine. But you know what? I found out, I think about a week ago that if you get married, if your wife changes her last name, you have to go get a new Social Security card. I never knew that. We've never, like me and my wife, we've been married, what, 24 years and she had to get a new identification and they made her go to the Social Security office last week to get a new Social Security card with the new last name.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's the weirdest thing that work with green cards.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I don't know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, you do.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm black. Sir, think about what you just said here. Sir, I have no idea, sir, but.

[Mimi Brown]

Think about what you just said. How many of those little hangups are going to catch people up, Right?

[DJ Envy]

Especially last minute, and they think that they're straight.

[Jess Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And that happened last week. She had to go to the Social Security office and change the last name. And we've been married 24 years, and we had never had no problem. But when she went to get a new license, it was a problem.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Immigration laws are different now.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm with citizen, sir. I don't know what you're talking about. I'm a citizen, too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No. Yes, I am. No.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes, I am.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes, I am.

[Caller Shannon]

All right, y'.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All.

[Mimi Brown]

Well, coming up at 7. The economy may be down, down, but subscriptions to a popular website, they are up. We'll tell you which one in the next hour.

[Lauren LaRosa]

All right, everybody else, get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, phone lines are wide open. Call us up right now. It's the Breakfast Club.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Good morning. This is your time to get it off your chest, whether you're mad or blessed. 800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hello?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Who's this?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Envy. What's up, Envy?

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

What's up?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Trav's not here today. Travis Charlemagne, the goddess.

[Caller DeAndre]

How you doing, baby?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Peace, sis. How are you?

[Caller DeAndre]

I'm doing good.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Listen, I was gonna call and talk about Cole, but I was.

[Caller DeAndre]

I got a little offended yesterday by one of y' all little callers that called in.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, which one?

[Caller DeAndre]

His name was Sheesh, but his name should have been Cheek.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, she. Little rapper. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.

[Caller Shannon]

But I got offended.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Cause y' all know I'm a writer.

[Caller DeAndre]

And I'll be out here really putting in the work.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, I be emailing people every day.

[Caller DeAndre]

Writing people on DMS every day, trying.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

My best to get. Get these songs off.

[Caller DeAndre]

And he told me all I gotta do is be gay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And. You gay, Travis, and I'm gay. That's why it is. What do you mean by that? What you mean? What you talking about? What do you mean? What are you talking about exactly when you say that in this industry, man? Okay, Got you, got you, got you.

[Caller DeAndre]

And you have actual, real talent, man.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

And I would have.

[Caller DeAndre]

And I've been trying my best. He thinks all it takes is being gay. There would be way more gay artists in this world.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's like two that you can name. Yeah, that is very true. I don't understand why people use that as an excuse to justify why they haven't gotten the way they got to. But I. Trav, I'm tell you something. I tell you this all the time. I. I believe in you. Travel. It's just a matter of time, sir.

[Lauren LaRosa]

He's behind you.

[Mimi Brown]

Hey.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey.

[Caller DeAndre]

I appreciate It. But, hey, stay behind me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Sorry.

[DJ Envy]

I don't.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't. Okay. All right, Trav.

[Lauren LaRosa]

But, Trav, you gotta defend your man, too. Don't let nobody call him no. Elbow, head, ass. All right? You gotta defend your man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, hey, bro.

[B Dot]

Bro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Leave my guy alone. Let bro. Let bro cook. Man, I do need some breakfast up there, though. Yeah, y' all need. Let her come in there and cook some breakfast. We do be having breakfast up here. Golden Corral be up here. I never had breakfast. The only time I had breakfast is when you buy it for me.

[Caller DeAndre]

Come up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That still counts.

[Lauren LaRosa]

We got breakfast today, Trav. We got breakfast today, they just said.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right. We do got breakfast today. Who is it today, Red? I forgot.

[DJ Envy]

Ain't it a steakhouse spot?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right. We got a steakhouse coming up here.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Steakhouse is coming today.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Is that Lauren?

[DJ Envy]

Yes. Hey, Trav. Good morning.

[Caller Shannon]

Oh, hey, baby.

[Caller DeAndre]

How you doing?

[DJ Envy]

I'm doing good.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We be having breakfast. You was p up there. It. It just depend who being up. Like, we got a special guest coming up here today. That's why we got breakfast. Okay? All right. We rolling out the red carpet for this young. This woman, all right? You should know who it is. Shout out to that special guest.

[Caller DeAndre]

Shout out to that special guest.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And y' all have a good day.

[Lauren LaRosa]

All right, Trav. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need the event, hit us up now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's a new day.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

This is your time to get it off your chest. Wake. Wake up. Whether you're mad or blessed, it's time.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

To get up and get something.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Call up now. 800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hello? Who's this?

[Caller DeAndre]

Hello, this is deandre. How you doing? DJ Envy. Charlamagne.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Guys, beyond gay?

[Lauren LaRosa]

No, not beyond gay. His name is DeAndre.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, DeAndre. And I got gay ears.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You got gay ears, bro.

[Caller DeAndre]

How y' all doing, man?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What's up? Beyond gay.

[Caller DeAndre]

It's DeAndre.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, DeAndre. I'm sorry. How are you, DeAndre? I'm good.

[Caller DeAndre]

How you doing, bro?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, in the 80s and 90s, that used to be the, like, the de facto gay name. DeAndre. I'm DeAndre.

[Caller DeAndre]

That's crazy, man.

[DJ Envy]

With you, bro.

[Caller DeAndre]

That's funny, man. But I just want to get off my chest, man. I just want to give a big birthday shout out to my daughter, the Ride J people.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay?

[Caller DeAndre]

I'm A single dad, man. And. And you know what I'm saying, It's been hard, man, trying to. I got underground fusion surgery January 27th. You can check out my. My. Check out my tick tock brow father 24 7. I've been raising my kids since they was born, man. I think mama gave up on them and stuff. So it's been real hard. I haven't been able to work since. Anywhere since my surgery, man. I was just hoping maybe I can get some assistance with my daughter's birthday, man. Hopefully.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Go put your Cash app out there, brother.

[Caller DeAndre]

Cash app is dp's kitchen 24 7. DPS kitchen 24 7.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What you cooking?

[Caller DeAndre]

Make something happen for my kids. My daughter, man, my son birthday was Monday, and her birthday is today. They three days. Three days apart. They Irish twins, man. But after the divorce, I got custody of my kids. Like I said, their mom gave up on them and stuff, so I just been. I've been. Only way. I've been making money cooking food for them. Cooking food and selling it to. Selling places to my. To my job and stuff like that and trying to make a way. I don't get no child support, no nothing. And I got mothers out there too, y'. All. They don't pay their child Support, man. They're $11,000 behind right now, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn.

[Caller DeAndre]

I'm just trying to get some help from my. For my babies, man. You know what I'm saying? I can't. I can't go back to work until May. Like I said, if y' all check out my. If y' all check out my. Tick Tock. It's proud father 24 7. Y' all can see everything from there, man. I just. I just had surgery January 27th. Can't go back to work until May. And that's. That's the soonest estimated time, you know what I'm saying? Hey, baby.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, baby.

[Caller DeAndre]

They just woke up right now, y'. All. Good morning. I'm on the radio right now. Happy birthday to you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Happy born day.

[DJ Envy]

Happy birthday.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Happy born day, little one.

[Caller DeAndre]

I love my baby. They saved my life. My baby saved my life, man. I. I do anything for my kids.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What's the Cash app again, man? God damn it.

[Caller DeAndre]

It's DPS kitchen 24 7.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

24 7.

[Caller DeAndre]

DP's kitchen 24 7.

[Lauren LaRosa]

All right.

[Caller DeAndre]

My name on Cash App. My Tick tock is a crowd 24 7. Y' all can see me doing my thing with my babies and stuff and just doing my best with these kids, man. I. It's Been a real struggle, man, in this many times, man, and just. I just need a little help, man. I can make something happen for my baby.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Good luck, brother. Get it off your chest. 800-585-105. What?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He says I sent him something before, back in 2019.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Oh, wow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

DeAndre.

[DJ Envy]

Hard times come back around.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That is true. That is absolutely true.

[Lauren LaRosa]

All right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Down payment on Sprinter, though. Hey, y' all up on him? I need to know what the hell this is about.

[DJ Envy]

It might have been for his cooking business or, like, a business something.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He had me with the little girl, but now I'm looking at this. A little suspicious. Being suspicious. I done sent him something before, back in 2019.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Well, we got the ladies for Laura coming up. What we talking about?

[DJ Envy]

We're talking about Michael Jackson and Sexyy Red because the Michael Jackson estate called me yesterday, and they have some things that they want to get on.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Who from the estate call you?

[DJ Envy]

A spokesperson from the estate called me yesterday because that video was everywhere. And they saw our breakdown here of it, and they have some things that they want to make very clear.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Damn.

[Lauren LaRosa]

All right, we'll get to that next. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Your talk. LL Cool, bitch.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, I'm not dumbing myself down. I'm being myself. I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything and everything. No brown girls look at you and go, I want to be like you.

[Caller Shannon]

Take me through that. Take me through there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The latest with.

[DJ Envy]

All right, guys, so before we get to anything else this morning, I wanted to take some time to send a rest in peace to James Vanderbeek and condolences to his family. For those of you guys who don't know him by name, you definitely would know him by face. Uh, he's been in shows, uh, Dawson School, Creek.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Show me a picture.

[DJ Envy]

Hold on, please. Right here.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We're on the radio.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Okay.

[Lauren LaRosa]

All right.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Shut up.

[Lauren LaRosa]

All right.

[DJ Envy]

What would you recognize him from? He was in Scary Movie for a sec, too.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Not too many movies. I know the face, but I don't really know him.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, but. Yeah. So, James, he passed away from colorectal cancer. It was announced yesterday. His wife posted a statement saying that he met his final days with courage, faith, and grace. And there's so much to share regarding his wishes, his love for humanity, his sacred time here. He was only 48 years old when he passed away. Way but.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

48. I'll be 48 this year.

[DJ Envy]

Yes, he was only 48, but when he had actually gotten diagnosed with cancer, he began to do a lot of speaking out about it, to just bring awareness to it and just to talk about kind of like the mental space that he was in. There was an interview that he did on a Today show. I want to play a brief clip from. Let's take a listen.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

I heard coming out of anesthesia from the colonoscopy, and it was in that haze where the doctor said, it is cancer. And I just. I went into shock. One of the things I was really lucky about was as soon as I heard the news, I thought, this is going to be the best thing that ever happened to me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Really?

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Yeah, best thing. I had this little voice in my head that said, you're going to make changes in your life that you would never, ever make if you didn't have this extreme of a diagnosis. And it's going to add healthy, happy years to your life. Really, the biggest change, I'd say, would be this journey of self love. What I realized was, is I'm still worthy of love. My own love, God's love. Before cancer, God was something I tried to fit into my life as much as possible. After cancer, I feel like a connection to God. Whatever that is, is kind of the whole point of this exercise on this planet.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wow. Y' all can make all the jokes y' all want about, you know, going to get a colonoscopy and getting that camera stuck up your butt, but I'm telling you, there's nothing better than getting that news that you ain't got no polyps. Yeah, okay.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I was going to ask that because usually when you go get a colonoscopy and you do have polyps, they can't tell you right then and there. They usually have to take the polyps off and it has to go for testing to tell if you have cancer. I don't know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I thought they tell you in the moment that they can tell you if the polyps are cancerous or not.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I didn't know. I thought.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, I could be wrong. I'm not.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I don't know either. I thought they had to send it to a lab to find that out. I didn't think they could tell you right then and there.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, that I knew they send it somewhere, too. But I. I don't know if at that point where he's talking to today, that surgery that he was talking about could have been something that came after. Yeah, like, I'm not for sure, but There was a GoFundMe that was started by a friend of his wife's that they Originally had a goal for like 250 to $500,000, and it has hit a million dol. And it's just because his, you know, the time that he battled cancer, his family was saying how financially hard it was on them. So people are. Are chipping in to try and help out his family in this time. So that's good to see.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

When he found out he was stage three, I think if.

[DJ Envy]

I reckon, yes, he was stage three when he found out. That was back in 20, 24.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Go sad man. Your colonoscopies. Okay. I think you got to be 40. Yeah. The age went down. If you have. If you have a risk of it in your family, I think it's 45, I think.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm not sure.

[DJ Envy]

But you can go before that, though. Isn't there a way now that you can do it without anything being put anywhere?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Put up your butt?

[DJ Envy]

Yeah. Isn't there like a blood testing way or something?

[Lauren LaRosa]

I heard you guys talk about it's a blood testing. I heard about Charlotte Maine and I.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Thought that's for prostate, though.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I don't know. Just go get the camera up your butt, man. Just get. Let's just go check it. Go get a colonoscopy and also go see. Sorry, Medical. Salute to Dr. Puma. He has a. A machine where he can check you from head to toe. Check if you have aneurysms, blood clots, if there's any problems.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Check for colonoscopy, though.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I didn't say colonoscopy. I said aneurysms. I said your heart health. I didn't say butts. You just hear butts.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, shut up, man. But we're talking about colonoscopies right now. You're the person to go to a age rally and be like, what about cancer? We talking about colonoscopies right now. Okay.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm talking about everything. Just men's health at all. Just men's health.

[DJ Envy]

Totally. Cuz people be scared. I was just having a conversation a couple days ago with somebody. But yeah, also you might have known him from Varsity Blues too.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Okay.

[DJ Envy]

Yes, but. So, yeah, sending a rest. Sending a rest in peace to him and, you know, just some healing for his family. It's been a long fight now as we shift gears a bit. Yesterday we talked about here a cover that Sexy Red had put out. It wasn't anything official, but it had been leaked from the studio. There were videos everywhere online. She had covered Michael Jackson's Beat it and the Michael Jackson estate. I reached out to them yesterday and.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

A spokesperson for these, Michael Jackson came back from the dead to reach out to Lauren to say, stop this madness.

[DJ Envy]

Now listen, they were snitch throwing Sexy red. It was all over the Internet. She put it out there. She also posted it herself too. So I didn't have to snitch. But yeah, so I talked to them yesterday and they were very, very strict with their words. They said, we were totally unaware of this. The use of this music is unauthorized. And unauthorized was, was stressed to me very, very heavily. And that came from a spokesperson. Now, I want to say, because it was a question in the room earlier when I mentioned this story about, like, oh, well, it was just like something she put on social media real quick. Please be very aware of your artist that you're putting out music to these covers. Like, if you know the estates and these, the artists that you're covering might not be down for it. I wouldn't even get myself in that because now you could potentially be looking at a legal battle because eventually they're going to want this removed. And I think that'll be next steps that we'll be seeing. So we'll keep you guys updated here. But yeah, they work, though.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's not out on the way.

[DJ Envy]

Well, they want, they want videos and everything taken offline, which at this point is so viral. I don't even know how they, like, how do you go get every video? But they're upset that it's even out there and people are speaking of Michael Jackson and then playing this song.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, you can't put the toothpaste back into YouTube.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Let him hear the song for people.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, we don't need to play it. Why? They.

[Lauren LaRosa]

People didn't hear it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They, they don't want nobody to hear it. Michael Jackson himself came back and said he don't want this song played. And you want to go against his wishes?

[Lauren LaRosa]

No, I just want people to hear it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Play it. That, that, that, that, that Michael Jackson said, if you want to make the world a better place, okay, look in the mirror and make a change. Okay? Envy. All right, but people, some people didn't hear it and they didn't. They don't want them to. That's the point.

[DJ Envy]

Nah. Normally people think stuff like, this is funny. I saw so many responses yesterday like, no, please, we did not ask for this.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, that was disgusting.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, so. And speaking of people and people wanting to hear things, yesterday Cardi B kicked off her MI or the Little Miss Drama tour for her new album. And she was in Palm Wings. First night of the tour, sold out so shout out to Cardi. But she made a statement to Ice as she performed. Let's take a listen.

[Mimi Brown]

If I come in here, we gonna joke they asses. I got some bare mace in the back.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They ticking my face.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Let's go.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I like it like that. Just salute to Bardi B. Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

So that tour will continue as a 35 date run for her Little Miss Drama tour.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But don't give him no ideas, Bardi. Okay? Don't tempt him. All right? Okay. Please don't tempt Dice. All right. Please. No. All right. They'll be out there harassing your family on the road. Harassing your family on the road. Do not do it.

[Lauren LaRosa]

That's the latest with Laura. Now when we come back, we got front page news. Mimi will be joining us and then Carl Anthony Payne will be joining us. All right, so we'll talk to him. You know him from the Cosby show, you know him from Martin. So many different shows. We'll talk to him in a little bit. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just Hilarious, Charlemagne, the gu. We are the Breakfast Club. Jess. Hilarious is out today. Lawrence filling in. And let's get in some front page news now. Cooper flag. He has been injured in his game the other night versus Phoenix. He will miss Thursday's game against the Lakers and he will also miss All Star Weekend. What's up, Mimi?

[Mimi Brown]

Good morning, Envy, Charlemagne and Lauren, good morning. How you doing?

[DJ Envy]

Good morning, Mimi.

[Mimi Brown]

Good morning. So we start this hour on Capitol Hill where lawmakers have until tomorrow to reach a deal or parts of the Department of Homeland Security it will shut down. Now if that happens, agencies like tsa, FEMA and the Coast Guard will be affected. Airport security officers and Coast Guard members would likely continue working, but without pay until funding is restored. NAFIMA operations and disaster response coordination could also face delays. Immigration enforcement, though it would largely continue because ICE already has billions in funding that was previously approved in the big beautiful bill. So this shutdown, it would disrupt travel disaster response and the people who keep all of those systems running, they would do so without pay. So we will continue to see what happens tomorrow if the lawmakers, both Democrats and Republicans, are able to make a deal and keep funding for DHS by tomorrow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Lord have mercy. I hope they make a deal.

[Mimi Brown]

I know, I know. Here we are again. And now to the Nancy Guthrie case, which has new developments this morning. The 84 year old mother of the Today show co host Savannah Guthrie, she has been missing since February 1st. Authorities say she Was taken from her Tucson, Arizona, home in the early morning hours. So new this morning, Investigators say they have received more than 4,000 tips in the past 24 hours. Authorities have also recovered a black glove near her home that they say may be tied to the case. And earlier this week, the FBI, they released surveillance images showing a masked person at her door the night she disappeared. And blood matching Guthrie's DNA was also found at the scene. Since her disappearance, several media outlets have received alleged ransom letters demanding bitcoin. TMZ confirmed it received a letter just yesterday, and law enforcement says it is actively reviewing those communications as part of its investigation. Let's listen to tmz now. More about the letter that they said that they received.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

And they are now saying that they have information about who the kidnapper is, and they are demanding money. They want one bitcoin, which is around 55,000, $56,000, you know, depending on the hour. And they are saying at the end time is more than relevant. This is not somebody who says they've kidnapped Nancy. It's somebody who says they know who has. We have no idea if this is authentic.

[Lauren LaRosa]

We have forwarded it on to the FBI.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what? Number one, I think it's an inside job, But I don't understand the TMZ angle. Why has this person been using TMZ this whole time? I don't think that's weird.

[DJ Envy]

No. Because I know from working there that people call TMZ a lot of times about things before they call the police and. But it's the reach.

[Lauren LaRosa]

No, no. But why would the ransom go to tmz?

[DJ Envy]

Well, no, they've gone to local media outlets, too, But TMZ has the reach, so the FBI is listening. I mean, they collected them from. From all the station. But if you're trying to make people pay attention to what you're doing, TMZ is.

[Lauren LaRosa]

But do you want people to pay attention, or do you just want the family if you're trying to get a rant?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Both.

[DJ Envy]

Both, I think. Both.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah. No, you're right, Lauren.

[DJ Envy]

Both.

[Mimi Brown]

But here, the thing with this is, is that they want a bitcoin, but.

[DJ Envy]

Not, you know, for.

[Mimi Brown]

To give her back for information that they say that they may have on the people who actually took her. So they're questioning the validity of this. This ransom note anyway, because it's like pay me for information versus just give me the tip.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I didn't know.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Is there a reward yet? Because usually they do, you know, reward, you know, for any.

[Mimi Brown]

Well, that's the Other thing, Amy, that's a great point because the FBI is offering a reward and if I remember correctly, I think it's like $250,000. You have to look that up. Which would be more than the bitcoin, right?

[DJ Envy]

Which is so.

[Mimi Brown]

So you know, you get, you just get a lot of different people, right? You get a lot of people just jumping in on the bandwagon at this point and they have to sit through what' real in the investigation, right?

[DJ Envy]

I think it's 50k, unless they added more.

[Mimi Brown]

Is it 50k?

[DJ Envy]

Okay. Yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So I don't understand why he would ask for bitcoin. Just give the police the information. You get the 50,000, you ain't gotta get arrested.

[Mimi Brown]

Same difference.

[DJ Envy]

Maybe they think if they go through tmz, they won't get contacted by the police. I have no idea.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Something ain't right about this story.

[DJ Envy]

I've been seeing that. I'm like, this is some.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This is not all come out in the Washington.

[DJ Envy]

Something is very weird. I feel like I'm watching a movie. Like it doesn't.

[Mimi Brown]

That's what I said yesterday, Lauren.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, it feels.

[Mimi Brown]

It very much gives movie. And so. But we will continue to watch because it, it's continuing to unfold day by day. And now to this next story. So if you owe back child support and you are planning to travel, this may affect you. So the State Department is preparing to revoke passports for people with large amounts of unpaid child support. Officials say those who owe more than $100,000 could be among the first targeted. So under federal law, the government already has the authority to deny or revoke passport passports for parents who owe more than $2,500. Now, in the past, that usually happens when someone goes for their renewal. But now officials say the administration is looking at proactively identifying people who are behind and pulling travel documents, even if they are not going up for renewal. So the State Department says it's reviewing those options to enforce what it calls long standing law. And it's aimed at making sure parents meet their legal and financial responsibilities.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't have any problem with that. Okay. No more Dubai, no more Tulum, no more Turks and Caicos until you take care of your kids. Okay. Take care of your back child support. I don't have any problem with that whatsoever.

[DJ Envy]

Good morning, dad.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Unless you're going out. Unless you're going out the country for work, maybe.

[DJ Envy]

When I sent you this, when I. When I sent you this, I was thinking about my father.

[Lauren LaRosa]

How much your dad owe.

[DJ Envy]

He hasn't paid probably since I was like, ever.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, you grown?

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, but it's still. It's still in arrears. He can't even do bank accounts in certain in his name and stuff, so.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He definitely can't travel no more.

[DJ Envy]

I don't know if he travels anyway.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You get married overseas or he can't come.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't have no problem with that.

[DJ Envy]

I don't know. But I think you should be responsible for your child support.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I agree. Take care of your responsibilities. You don't get to go on no goddamn vacation unless you're going out the country to work. And you can prove you're going out the country to work. That's the only way. But other than that, no. Damn.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Mimi Brown]

And then one more small note that they say that if you enter into a payment agreement, you may be able to keep your passport while making those payments, but you have to arrange that with the State Department. So just a little bit reprieve there, but you've got to make those payment arrangements. And speaking of where people are sending their money, a new survey is out this week and it's ranking the top five states that are spending money or spent the most money on only fans in 2025. So, yep, let's count it down. So starting at number five was Illinois. They spent about 118 million in 2025. Yep. Number four, Florida. They spent roughly 159 million. And number three, New York. Right. It's coming in with 167 million that they spent on only fans in 2025. Number two is Texas. They spent around 250 million. Can you guys guess?

[B Dot]

Number one, California.

[Mimi Brown]

Yes, Envy, you would know that it's California. You always have. You always know the story before I say it. Yes, California. They spent about 3 million alone in 2025. So to like, put that in perspective, in Los Angeles, that breaks down to $195,000 per day.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I guess. I guess this is a great time to tell everybody I'm launching Envy feats. So if you want to see pictures of my feet, envy, you've been had that I didn't.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Boy, this boy here is so full of it. His feet been up there for years.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Unauthorized.

[DJ Envy]

Is it lucrative or not?

[Lauren LaRosa]

I don't know, but that's unauthorized.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But for $300 million, you just feel comfortable saying it's yours. Now, your feet, you've been getting money for that?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Look, I just need a percent of that. I'm start putting my feet up there doing crazy stuff.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But why only fans? Why pornhub? Is free?

[Mimi Brown]

I don't know.

[DJ Envy]

Well, because people are making money. You know what?

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

That's a good question.

[Mimi Brown]

I don't know. But in this economy, groceries are up, rent is up, everything is up. But apparently those only fan subscriptions, those are study.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Pornhub is free.

[Lauren LaRosa]

But I think only fans are people that they know, though. Like, you know, I mean, whatever model or whatever.

[DJ Envy]

You feel like a more personal connection. Instagram, that is still a little. I feel like the having to pay and like, all that makes sense. It probably feel more personal.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I gotta see what these people on there doing.

[DJ Envy]

What's the webcam thing? The soda or something?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You tell us.

[DJ Envy]

I don't know the site, but I did a story on these girls, but it was the same thing there. People pay out his money because they feel personal connection.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm not gonna lie. I did have a homegirl that was on there, and she was telling me, you know, she was making a couple of dollars off it. And I just happened to go look one time, and I was so disappointed. I was like, why are you doing this?

[Lauren LaRosa]

You paid for it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, How'd you go look? Because her pictures actually had leaked. Oh, I was so disappointed. I'm like, why are you doing it?

[DJ Envy]

You what? Like, she didn't have the stuff that she needed to be on there anyway, or just.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What you mean?

[DJ Envy]

Like. Like it wasn't good photos.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She was just showing. She was showing. I'm like, why are you doing this? Like, why are you showing all this? Like, you, like, you take, like, videos in the shower and it's not like she's showing herself, but people just paying to watch you shower, like, it just feels silly. Like, why are you doing this?

[DJ Envy]

I know girls that literally just post beach photos and make good money.

[Mimi Brown]

I was really gonna say, Lauren, if people are paying just to see nothing, I, you know, post, talk that talk.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Mimi said, I do it.

[DJ Envy]

You post it on Instagram. Don't post it on Instagram.

[Mimi Brown]

Anyway, Mimi, don't saying that. If people are going to pay for nothing, I mean, why not do it, Mimi?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let me find out. You got only fans, Mimi.

[Mimi Brown]

I do. An only fan.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You going there be like, what can. What can Brown do for you?

[Mimi Brown]

Headlines now, if y' all want that, I'll sign up.

[DJ Envy]

I don't know. People really love you, Mimi. They might actually be into the headlines.

[Mimi Brown]

With I will do it.

[DJ Envy]

Another headline.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what I.

[Mimi Brown]

That's what I can do. Okay, stop there and I. I'll keep you up to date on all the Ladies. All right, y'.

[DJ Envy]

All.

[Mimi Brown]

Well, that's your front page news. I'm Mimi Brown. Follow me at Mimi Brown tv. For more stories, follow the Black Information Network or visit bin news dot com.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Thank you, Mimi.

[Mimi Brown]

Thank you.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Now, when we come back, call. Anthony Payne will be joining us.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, first of all, if you're gonna say it, you should finish it, because that sounded crazy.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I was gonna say, when we come.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Back, will be joining us. You know what I'm saying? When I'm the goddess, you know, I.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Mean, I was gonna say cockroach, but Carl Dicky paid the second will be joining us, you know, from the Cosby show, you know, from Martin, you know, from so many different things. He'll be here in a minute. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody.

[DJ Envy]

It's DJ Envy.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Just hilarious Charlemagne, the guy. We are the break Breakfast Club. La Roses here as well. We got a special guest in the.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Building, Carl Anthony Payne. This merch is very fresh, by the way. Very fresh. How are you, first of all?

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

I'm good, my brother.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How are you? You look good, man. You ain't Asian at all.

[Jess Hilarious]

No, he's not.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

I do what I do.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What?

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

I could do it. I can do it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You played some very memorable sitcom characters, man. Like. Like, when did you realize people weren't just watching, but they were connecting with you?

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

When did I realize that. That there's a difference between connecting with the work and then, like, fame? Does that make sense, what I'm saying? Right? Like. Like, I think I was at a New Edition concert, right? I never forget this. It was like during the height of Cosby, right? I was at a New Edition concert, and I was going to my seat.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What year was this?

[Jess Hilarious]

Right, Right.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

It's like the 80s. Early, early 80s. Early, early 80 s. Early 80s. And I was walking to my seat. I was getting ready to go to my seat, and the lights came up, and I'll never forget, it was like. I think Webster was there. Emmanuel Lewis, right? He was there. And I think, you know, they saw him. And the crowd was starting going crazy. And then Eddie Murphy was there and, you know, you know, and then all these girls and all these people started coming down, and it was pointing in my direction, and I was like. And I'm turning around, like, who they see? And it was like, chaos, but it was me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wow.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

And then they had to escort me backstage, right? And I was like, that's the. The. The. Just that moment alone of. Just because I was like, oh, who they. You know, who else is Here. I was like, no, you. And I was like, oh, damn.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

I don't. I couldn't understand what they were saying, right? Bottom line is, that moment was crazy. And I never forget my best friend at the time. He looked at me backstage and he was like. Because it was like, I'm gonna get all the leftover.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I'm saying? I was scared to death.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

I was shook. But he was looking like, oh, this is gonna be great.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I say it all the time. 80s and 90s fame. Nobody will ever achieve that level of fame ever again. The world is just too different.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

80S, 80s was the best time ever. Like, if you was alive during the 80s and you're still alive now, then you know what I'm talking about. Like, the 80s, the 80s was just different. It was. It was like a. It was like a. It was like a revolution, right? It was like just. Everything was. Everything was about fun. Everything was happy. Movies was happy clubs. Everything was. It was a movement. I love the 80s.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. That's why I don't understand about, like, when it comes to black culture, right? Like, we always talk about what we're missing. We had it. The eighties, the nineties, especially. I'm talking about just TV and film. The eighties, the ninies. It was positive. It was black people depicted in a right light. Like, I don't know what happened happened.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Yeah, well, come on, give me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What happened.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

A lot of things happen, man. I think. I think. Well, first of all, you know, the. Every. Everything changes. Everything changes. Landscape change, Internet, that was huge. Social media, huge. And then it became like, it killed the celebrity, in my opinion. You know what I'm saying?

[DJ Envy]

Like.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Like.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Because then. Now anybody can.

[Jess Hilarious]

Whatever, right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

And then there's no. There's no mystery. There's no. There's nothing anymore, right? So it's like a lot of these things change, and that's.

[Lauren LaRosa]

That.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

That helped to Me shape the landscape.

[Jess Hilarious]

And back then, you didn't. You only knew a celebrity for their work. You didn't know their life. You didn't know who they were, who they were sleeping with. You didn't know if they did drugs or not or. You know, you could probably take a guess because how some of them acted. But I'm just saying, like, you. We weren't in their lives. You couldn't send them a dm, And.

[DJ Envy]

And.

[Jess Hilarious]

And they see it, and you see that they read it. You know, y' all were. Y' all weren't accessible at all.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Well, it used to be a club. It used to Be a very special club that you had to be. Have talent to be a part of. You had that. You had to really have something. Right? One of three things, if not all three things. And it was an elite club, and that was that.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

You know what I'm saying? Like, before social media, to become a household name, you know, the kind of work you had to put in do, you know, the kind of just. And you're right. It was always about the talent. It was always about the work. And.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, but it was appointment viewing, too. I mean, you know, I was a Jehovah Witness, so on Thursday nights, we was at the Kingdom hall, but we was recording.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Right, Right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Cosby show to come home and watch. So you think about all of America gathering around the television when it's only like, three, four channels at the time to watch one show. Like, I was looking at some numbers the other day, and I think one episode of cosby show had 65 million viewers.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Yeah, yeah, it was. It was. It was incredible. It was incredible. And I was just blessed to be a part of it. You know what I'm saying? Like, it was super impactful. And I think the one thing. Not even the one thing, the thing they'll let you know how programming works and just the powerful impact of it. I mean, I think I don't even know the numbers offhand, but the amount of young black individuals that decided to go to HBCUs, right, decided to take their lives into a different. Different trajectory, become lawyers, become doctors, to really put forth an energy and effort into. Not just like, okay, they wanted to be something different because we had.

[Mimi Brown]

We.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

We didn't have those images. We didn't have that even though they existed. They 100 existed. We just didn't have that. And it broke all kind of color lines and barriers and, you know, something happened.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't care what y' all say. There was a switch hit where they was like, there's too many black people.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

It's the same bad effect. What's up? What's the thing they call it when. When it's like. It's like, you. You. What do they call it where it's like, now they act like it never existed.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Right?

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

You know what I'm talking about? Like, the different Mandela effect. You know what I'm trying to say? No, no, no, no. But. But because Sinbad was one of them. Like, that was one of the things. Like, it was like the movie Sinbad versus Anyway, it was part of.

[DJ Envy]

What about on, like, the network, like, power making, decision side of it, like, what do you think?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Something happened, man.

[DJ Envy]

But because, okay, like, I've heard you talk about, like, even with, like, Martin, like, when y' all were going through things on y' all set, that execs knew things were happening, but they didn't really, like, step in and, like, make sure their stars were good because they just wanted to get through the episodes. Like, so how did that lack of, like, you know, I guess, empathy for y' all are understanding the impact from the network side, how did that get us to where we don't have. Have, you know, a lot of these, like, big black shows on television?

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

I don't know. I'm with Charlemagne. Something happened. Something happened, something happened. I really don't know, I think. But I think everything happens in cycles, right? It's like, I feel like we. We probably see a resurgence of that just in a different way right now. Because you got to look at it right now. There's all these verticals, the microverse, micro dramas and things like that. So I think you're going to see it again just in a different way.

[DJ Envy]

Will it hit like, y'. All.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, it won't.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

It won't. It won't, because it's over saturated. Yeah, it's over saturated.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Now.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

The cream will always rise to the top, so to speak, if that makes sense. But, no, won't be the same because it's a different environment right now. You understand what I'm saying? Which is why, in my opinion, right, which is why, like, someone like Chappelle will make such a huge difference in impact, right? Because he's literally touching on and putting his finger on the pulse of what is happening right now. And to me, that was part of the Secret Sauce, or the success at the time of Martin, was the fact that we literally had our finger on the pulse, right? It was like. It was you hanging out with her and hanging out with her, and then we put it on tv and it was like, we get to speak how we want to speak, we get to play how we want to play, and we bring in the culture to the culture, and we're pushing the needle of the culture. So, you know, in my opinion, that's why certain people will be more impactful right now, because. But the. But the climate of the country, the climate of everything right now is it's not that. It's not the eight. You see what I'm saying? It's not. It's not in the music. It's not. It's literally not in every aspect of culture or life.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So how did the cold character develop it? Like. Because Cole was funny, though, but he didn't stop.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

But, you know. But you know what? I'm gonna say he wasn't.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's.

[B Dot]

No, no, no, that's funny.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

That's funny. No, because look, look, here's the thing. Here's. Here's how it developed. I felt like he and I were very close, Martin and I, in terms of, like, characters.

[DJ Envy]

Right.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Starting off, and I was like, well, I gotta do something to kind of separate us. Because, you know, Tommy was a straight guy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

You know, and you could see everybody else's thing right then. I was like, okay. It was always. And that was at the time when all of the. Everybody. All the black designers was coming out, you know, cross colors. Boo, boo, everybody. So I was getting a ton of gear. Ton of gear. And I was like. And it was always dressing me real, real, you know, I was like, okay, let's start with the clothes.

[Gene Simmons]

Let's start.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

And it's like, the thing is, an actor, when you do your homework, you say, okay, let's build this character. Who is this guy? Who is this guy in. In this circle of friends? But who is he? You know, where did he come from? You know who. And how does he fit in this. In this thing? And that's how I started building on him. And then I was like, there's a certain innocence about Cole. There's a certain naivety. Right. Like, so. Whereas you thought he was dumb. I'm like, no, he just innocent. He just. He believes everything. He lives in his own world. But it's okay because they know him there. He, the mayor. There's nothing you can't tell me he's not committed to. He believes everything he says. Saying he might have smoked weed too. Maybe.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Maybe.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Because, you know. You know, when you see. You got cats that, you know, used to, you know, and then they'd be like, let me tell you what we gonna do. You go get his soup for free.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That element would have made a lot of sense.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But I can't give you that.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Feel me? But I can put that in there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why do you think that humor still hits all these decades later? Because Martin's always on in reruns.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Like, you know what? To tell you the truth, I don't know know. I don't know. See, I feel like. I feel like it was just representative of a time, like you said, of an era that. That represented fun. It represented, you know, everything that we all stood for.

[Lauren LaRosa]

That.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

That, again, it was like, I know him. I know her. That's. It was relative. It was relativity. So.

[Jess Hilarious]

And then you see yourself. Like I seen myself as Pam.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

I'm always.

[Jess Hilarious]

I, I, I had a lot. I had a few homegirls going up, but I used to hang with the guys and I would be riffing and cracking on them. And that's how I learned improv. I learned doing that, you know, from watching all four. Y' all was my friends too. You know what I'm saying? You know, so that the nostalgia, the nostalgia of that made me like a comedian. Like, that's what I wanted to do, you know? And so with that being said, when people talk about, like, older reboots and I want to see Martin remade, I always have a problem with it because I feel like a time like that can't be remade because those are not the times that we're living in right now.

[DJ Envy]

Now.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Right.

[Jess Hilarious]

We would have to touch on too many other things that would kind of blur the funny, you know, and blur the realism of what's going on.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

And you know what's interesting about that, Jazz, is I think that it could have been done at one time. It could have been done. The timing of it would have had to been specific, right? Yeah, it could have been done. But you're right, certain stuff, you don't need to touch certain things. You definitely just need to, you know, because you can't capture that same lightning in a bottle. And you're right. It would have to be done in a way that is indicative and speaks to today. You know what I'm saying?

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

I think for the show. I think we talked about this one time, too. We talked about this early on for the show. The show could have actually continued to live on an infamy in a cartoon form because no one, no one gets old, no one dies, and it stretches across generations like that would have been. And we had talked about doing it like that, so I don't know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't even. I mean, you could, you couldn't do it now without Thomas.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

You can't. That was the thing. That's why I said the timing of it.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

You know, and like, he was my best friend in real life, so, you know, the timing of all of that was crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So he was your best friend in real life and you still didn't get in the comedy because he was a stand up too.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

But. But he wasn't, though.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He wasn't. No. I've seen him on stage before.

[Jess Hilarious]

I've never seen.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Okay, no, no, that's what I'M saying he was.

[Lauren LaRosa]

He.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

He taught me a lot.

[DJ Envy]

Lot.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

He taught me a lot. He definitely taught me a lot about the business, like. Like, about everything. So I think he was one of the people who influenced me the most coming up during that time, you know what I mean?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Like when we first started working on the show, I think about a month or two after we started working, you know, he had like this Jeep, you know, Jeep wrangler joints, right? Then he, like, everybody started buying stuff because we getting money now, right? Everybody started buying things. Then he flipped it and he got himself a Land Cruiser and he. He milked it out, whited it, everything. Like, it was like uptown. It was like it belonged in front of Rooftop, right? And I'm looking at. I'm like, damn. And he had. The dude dropped it off. And I saw him give this dude a check for like 15,000. And I'm like, what's that for? He was like, nah, that's just for the. You know what? I'm. How much you getting paid? He was like, what you mean, I think we can pay? I said, we can't be getting paid the same. You. I can't do that.

[DJ Envy]

You.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

You giving this dude, you giving just for accessories? Yeah, I can't do that. He was like, yeah, nah, nah. I said, how much you getting paid, Tommy? And then he was like, well, first of all, he's like, you're incorporated, right? I was like, huh? Immediately, he was like, no, you're not incorporated. I was like, what was incorporated? He put me up on being incorporated and incorporated myself. Like, no, you get the whole check tech. Pay yourself as a company, as an entity. I was like, word. So I didn't lost all this money.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

For the last two months, you know what I mean?

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Not that I'm gonna run out and do that, but my point being. So he was teaching me a lot of stuff, man. Golf court, course with him. And he was like, this is where deals are made. This is. You don't want to do this later in life, trust me, you know? Yeah, he put me on. He put me on.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How did this death impact you?

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

It was rough. It was really rough because I think we. We would talk all the time, like, every other day we speak, right? And, you know, after the show, you know, we catching jobs here and there. You know, we putting each other in different films. We're doing things with each other, right? Or if he's doing a speaker. He was very. He was very. He was a huge child advocate. He was a huge advocacy for, you know, Our culture and just being black men in general.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Being responsible. Being responsible. So he had just had knee surgery.

[DJ Envy]

Surgery.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

And so he was talking, and he was like, yeah, man, I'm in. I'm in recovery and, you know, rehabbing and this, that, and the other. So I just spoke to him, you know what I mean? And then Tashina had called me. She was like, call. You spoke to Tommy? Or she said something like, you heard about Tommy? And I was like, yeah, yeah, man. You know, he's saying. He said he's getting his knee. You know, he's knees is messing with him. She was like, no, Carl. I said, what you mean? She was like, like, you got to go to Atlanta now. She said his girl called him last night and was like, he's in a coma. I was like, she told him, I just spoke to him yesterday. Stop playing with me. And so when I went down there seeing him and seeing him, like, that was. Was kind of wild, cuz, you know, you just speak to somebody, then you see him in the bed with the. And then the room had this aura and his feeling and a smell that I will never forget. You know what I'm saying? And, yeah, so it was. It was one of those caught off guard type things. And I know that it was just me, his wife, and the priest in the room at the end.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wow.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

You know, when they pulled the plug, wow. That's all she wanted in the room. She was like, carl, I need you to talk to the press. I can't deal with them right now. So I was like, all right. So I had to. I had to, like, keep all of my stuff together.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

To try to be strong for those, you know, but, yeah, it was deep.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Did you give yourself an opportunity to grieve? Did you. Are you still grieving? A grief is not linear by any means.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Yeah, no, I think I ain't gonna get me on here doing the. Tyrese got the tissues on deck.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We not doing that. I'm not about.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

He started zooming in. My shirt got tight.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Just now.

[DJ Envy]

Not even.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Out of here.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, man.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Yeah, black men do cry. Not today, though.

[B Dot]

No.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

I have given myself a chance degree for sure. But what it did teach me was how random and how short life is, man. You can't take nothing for granted.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

You know, you can't take. So even now, like, just those who, you know, may have made an impact or who influenced you in some way, you know, you call. You got to call your people. You got to check them. You got to just say, what's up even. Because, you know, you can still have friends that you don't speak to every day, but still, you got to just reach out to folks and be like, yo, you good? I'm just checking.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You good?

[B Dot]

All right, cool.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So, man, you speak about random. Not to stay on this, but how did. How did. Mr. Michael, I'm glad you brought that up.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

That's interesting. I had lost my father the day that we was like, what? The day. The day I buried my father, the day they put him in the crematory where they. That same day.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wait, what?

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

I had just left, and I'm sitting in a restaurant because we're all going to grab something to eat. My brother know, he was there, and I'm sitting there. I had just ordered. My sister walks over to me with the phone and goes like this, damn. And I was like. Like, you know, I mean, like, I can't process that right now, because at first I thought it was a joke. I thought it was, like, a hoax, because you know how every now and again, there's always a rumor they'll kill us off. You know what I'm saying?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Thankfully, they haven't done that to me yet.

[DJ Envy]

But Facebook people.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

I don't know what it is, but I'm just saying I couldn't process it at the moment. Like, I literally could not process that at that moment. And what's crazy is how everybody was calling me, you know, like, sorry for your loss. Sorry for. And I'm thinking they're talking about my dad, right? And they talking about Malcolm.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wow.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Because to them, what we represented was, like, the ultimate friendship. Right? This was something that. Even if. Even if they didn't know, you know, the level of whatever, but to me, they did think that. They thought we were best friends in real life. So people were calling me saying that, and, you know, it was a. It was very weird. It was very weird.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That was random. These people are random. That was.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

It was super random. And again, another reminder. Another. I mean, I don't know all the details. You know, I think he was on vacation or something. He was on vacation, and I was like. And so my heart went out to his family. Like, I felt like, man, I can't imagine. Like, I wouldn't want to. You know what I'm saying? But I know his mother lost a son. You know what I'm saying? His daughter lost her father. Like, you know, they're lost. There's nothing, you know, in terms of him compared to. You know what I mean? Does that make sense? What I'M trying to say. Yeah, I felt more for them, but I was also processing my own situation at that time.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Probably. Probably your own immortality in a lot of ways, bro.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

100.

[DJ Envy]

Mentally, what is it like when you play a character like Cole.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

And Cockroach, and people only see you as that. That for the first time. Like, when you experience someone who really doesn't in real life, separate the two for the first time. How is that for you, mentally? Because it's probably weird to experience that, like, for the first time.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

It still happens for the first time all the time. Like, it happens every day. It happened in a parking lot across the street.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

It's just wild. Like, when people encounter me or encounter that, they think you're. That. I'm never offended by it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because I feel like it's a blessing too, though.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

That's what I'm saying. God put me in a position to make an impact back. That's part of my. It's part of my legacy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

And you don't take that for granted. So when people who don't know me, that just goes, oh, I need. I got more work to do. I got more work to do. I got more work to do. Because, again, I was Carl Payne first. So now you get to know who Carl Payne is. When you come see me on stage, you're like, oh, he's pop.

[Jess Hilarious]

Pop.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

He's a father.

[Gene Simmons]

Yeah.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

He's a this, he's a that. And I can relate to that because he's saying the wild that. I think.

[DJ Envy]

Think.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

But I never say out loud or the thing that I go through all the time, but I just never. I didn't know you went through that, too. Yeah, yeah. I got caught in my hand. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You gotta let go from the Cosby show, right?

[Mimi Brown]

Yes.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Yes, I did.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Was it for having. Or.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Jesus Christ.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

I had my. In my hand and I was talking to this girl.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what's so funny?

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Oh. While Bill was making cappuccino nose and.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You had all these white women in.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

The room, and I was like, what is this?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What's so funny, though, is. Is back then, there was two things. My dad used to use an example as an example. I don't even know if this is true. He used to talk about a family member who didn't remove an earring. That's. So that's why he didn't make the pros as a baseball player. And you not wanting to cut your head on coffee show. You know But I don't know if that's true.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

It's not true.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's not true.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

I told the story once before. I told the story once, once before. What happened was it was the bald headed episode. The guy who they had working as the. The barber, whoever he was, right? He hot combed my joint. He hot combed it, right? To make it lay down so it could fit under the ball wig. And we, we didn't shoot in order. We shot like out of order, so to speak, right. And my hair, they tried to get it back. It didn't match from what we had shot earlier. And you know, Bill had this thing about not, you know, natural hair and all of this other stuff like that and all of this, that and the other. And he thought I did it. And I was like, I talk to your man's in them. I do this, you know, And I feel like there was a lot more going on at that time. Because to be let go for something like that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, no, he thought you did.

[DJ Envy]

What? Curled your hair back up.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

No, yeah, he thought I did did it. He thought like I put a perm in it or something. And I'm like, now why would I do that? Like, that's crazy, right?

[Lauren LaRosa]

He just had a bad day that day.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

That's what, that's what I'm trying to say. Like, I feel like there was more going on to be let go for something like that. And I just never spoke on it. I never. I let people run wild with all kind of stories for years. I don't care. But, you know, why would I? Like, that's the most arrogant thing for me. This. I won't cut my hair. Like, that's the stupidest thing ever. Of course I cut my hair. I'd have been bald for real. But that's what happened.

[Gene Simmons]

Wow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And he thought I did it.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

He thought I did it. And I was like, no, sir, that's not what happened.

[Lauren LaRosa]

That level spoke after that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I heard about that too. I heard y' all spoke and you, you cursed him out.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Well, I mean, because he was cursed. He was.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You. Listen, I thought he don't curse.

[DJ Envy]

Duh.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

No, look, look, it was. He had some very wild things to say then too, you know, which was like, interesting. I'm like, oh, okay. So jello pudding pops is just a commercial, just an act. I get it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Was that your last question about that? That's your first offense on as far as I knew. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's crazy.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

You know what I'm saying? Like, as far As I knew, I. I never got, like, warnings about anything. I never got nothing.

[DJ Envy]

Malcolm said in that interview, though, that you guys had gotten to a good place and y' all were having better, like, adult grown conversations.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

100. Look, are you still cool with cockroach call Anthony.

[Jess Hilarious]

Hilarious.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Of course. Cooler. We're cooler as adults than we were during that time.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Really? Well, y' all didn't get along? No, no. Young Eagle. And, yeah, that's what it was. All right.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

The original callbacks for Cosby. They flew in an actor from Chicago and flew in an actor from New York. Carl was the actor. They flew in from New York.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So had I not auditioned for the.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Show, Carl would have played the.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Look at you every day and see you took my part, and then I.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Got to come back and play your best friend.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And he decided he had a huge.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Ego, and I didn't come from that kind of place. The way I felt then and the way I feel now, you know, based on my career, if anybody, you know.

[Caller DeAndre]

Should walk around with a huge ego.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

It should be me. We just never really got along back then. But, you know, we're grown now, and.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, and Carl's been through a lot.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Like, his journey is. You know, it's. It's been. You know, he's had a journey as adults. We've been able to, like, sit down and have conversations, and we're in a very cool grown man place now. I think it's interesting. Like I said. Yeah, we.

[B Dot]

We.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

You know, we were kids, man. We were kids. It was the 80s, you know, different time. Different time, different energy. We come from two different places. You know, like I said, people don't. You don't always mesh. You don't always understand, you know, when you got different energies and things of that nature. You know what I'm saying? I think some of the word choices he chose was very interesting to say.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Like, you know, and people who know me, people around back then, they know I was. Had no. No hatred in terms of somebody else's success. I was happy to be a part of that joint. Glad to be a part of it. Blessed.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You did that.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Absolutely.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You did that.

[Jess Hilarious]

Well, what I want to say is I love you and I appreciate you.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yo, because I love you too, Jazz.

[Jess Hilarious]

I grew up watching you, and. And I never thought that I would. You know, I don't think when you watch somebody on tv, you will grow up and meet them one day, right? And then I. I grew up watching you, and then you came to my show and you watched me and you laughed because I'm funny.

[DJ Envy]

So I love you.

[Jess Hilarious]

I appreciate you.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

But you know why I came. And I appreciate you, too, you know? You know why I came? Because I saw something in you and you're. You're mad talented. You're mad funny. Congratulations. You're right where you're supposed to be. You on your way.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You out of here.

[Jess Hilarious]

Thank you.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

For real.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

For real.

[Jess Hilarious]

Thank you.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Have a call Anthony Payne ii. And we appreciate you for joining us.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Call Anthony Payne in the same call.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Entertainment. T. Breezy Entertainment. Lauren L. Charine. The Guy. South Carolina Boys in the building.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Dj.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes, sir.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Thank you for coming, brother.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

White boy behind the boys.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I can't say all.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

All I can see is eyes and red hair. My bad, sir. Is the.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

My bad.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Let's get right to the latest.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, I'm not dumbing myself down. I'm being myself. I'm the home girl that knows a little bit about everything and everything.

[Jess Hilarious]

Little brown girls look at you and.

[DJ Envy]

Go, I want to be like you.

[Caller Shannon]

Take me through that.

[DJ Envy]

Take me through there.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

She gone. The latest with.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

On the Breakfast Club. LL Cool Baby Talk. Talk to me.

[DJ Envy]

So yesterday it was announced by the Recording Academy that Tupac, Janet Jackson, and even some of Selena's work, along with a few others that I will mention, are going to be inducted into the Grammy hall of Fame. So there crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because Tupac never even won a Grammy.

[DJ Envy]

So, so original. It's crazy that you say that originally this whole hall of Fame situation was it was created back in 1973 because there were a lot of people who had like these big hits and things that happened before the Grammy Awards were even a thing. So that recognition still lives on where they're able to honor people for things that maybe they didn't win Grammys or things that weren't recognized at times. Now there are 14 new recordings that are going to be added to the Grammy hall of Fame this year and more than half of. More than half of those recordings. So it's albums and it's also just like songs are from black artists. The gala will go down on May 8, 2026. But some of the things that are being inducted include Tupac's All Eyes on Me, Janet Jackson's Rhythm Nation Paid in Full by Eric B and Rakim. There's a ton on the list here. But yesterday and another hall of Fame conversation, Gene Simmons. So he is the founder of the rock group Kiss. He and this. This interview actually happened a couple days ago.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So. Gene Simmons.

[DJ Envy]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Never heard of Kiss. You see a Kiss, man. The rock group that got like the white face paint. You see a Kiss before?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Well, Gene Simmons passed a couple of months ago.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Ago.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You think about Richard Simmons?

[DJ Envy]

Ozzy Osborne.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, Azie Osborne. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I do it too. I'm sorry.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, my God.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I get what you. Well, look, Richard Simmons still alive, ain't he? Look it up.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I thought jeans. Je all.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I get what you saying. I feel the same way.

[DJ Envy]

Listen, Richard Simmons passed too, didn't he? Yes. He died in July of 2024.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, hold on. Let's get all white people right now. Who. Who was this?

[DJ Envy]

So this is Gene Simmons?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, he died.

[DJ Envy]

Richard Simmons is the workout guy. He died?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[DJ Envy]

Ozzy Osbourne, Rock. He's a rocker too. Sharon Osborne. He died.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He died.

[DJ Envy]

Gene Simmons. Kiss.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Kiss, man. You seen Kiss? You know, with the tongue. Did back in the day. My brother. All I said was that he was wearing face.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Okay, all right, I'm sorry.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Sorry. You've been around longer than me, so I don't know. Sorry.

[DJ Envy]

Well, you will remember him after this conversation. This has been one that he's had a couple times. But he is back at it again, talking about how rap music should not be included in the Rock and Roll hall of Fame. Let's take a listen to Gene Simmons on black music.

[Gene Simmons]

When my mother and I legally. Because there's a difference to America.

[DJ Envy]

Let's not listen to that one first. Let's actually listen to Gene Simmons on Rock and Roll hall of Fame.

[Gene Simmons]

The fact that Iron Maiden is not in the Rock and Roll hall of Fame when they can sell out stadiums and Grandmaster Flash is. Ice Cube and I had a back and forth and you know, he's a bright guy and I respect what he's done. It's not my music. I don't come from the ghetto. It doesn't speak my language. And I said in print many times, hip hop does not belong in the Rock and Roll hall of Fame. Nor does opera, symphony orchestras. How come the New York Philharmonic doesn't get the Rock and roll? Because it's called the Rock and Roll hall of Fame. But he shot back and said, no, it's the spirit of Rock. Okay, fine. Ice Cube and Grandmaster Flash and all these guys are in the Rock and Roll hall of Fame. I just want to know when Led Zeppelin's going to be in the Hip Hop hall of Fame.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I've been saying that for years. I've been thinking, I've been thought they should change the name. It should just be like the Music hall of Fame. I don't know why they continue to call it the Rock and Roll hall of Fame, but, you know, put all these other genres into it. It is confusing.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Now. I, I agree.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I don't like what he said. I'm not from the ghetto. Everybody that raps and that does hip hop is not from the hood or from the ghetto. But I do agree with him. Yeah, it's the Rock and Roll hall of Fame. You would think it's rock and roll music. Like, yeah, do a music hall of fame. You know what I mean?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And by the way, black musicians definitely are the true architects of rock and roll. Yes, that's what I was thinking. But it's still rock and roll.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Correct.

[Lauren LaRosa]

That was rock and roll.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Rock and roll.

[DJ Envy]

But there has always been a conversation about how genres and music were created in a way to almost like, segregate and hold down black artists so that other artists could excel in certain genres. That's that. So I think if you agree with that, then you agree with that thought.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Got inducted into the Hip Hop hall of Fame. If we had one, we'd be raising hell.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes, we would.

[DJ Envy]

But it's. It's a bit different, though, because of the origin. And he. And it's crazy because in the beginning of this interview, he even talks about Chuck Berry. Chuck Berry.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And they did rock and roll with.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Architects of rock and roll.

[DJ Envy]

But I'm saying, how can you have a conversation about them and then be.

[Jess Hilarious]

And.

[DJ Envy]

And them inspiring. He said that they were the first musicians that he heard. That's what got him into music. So they inspired you. So why can't you admit that they inspired.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Inspired the genre? You're talking about race. He's actually talking about genres of music. Yes, he's literally talking about genres of music.

[DJ Envy]

You don't think that those artists inspired the genre of rock and roll?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know what you're saying right now. You're confusing me.

[Lauren LaRosa]

But if somebody. Somebody, let's say a rapper. Let's say Nas. Right? Nas is a rapper.

[DJ Envy]

Right.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Nas should not be in the Rock and Roll hall of Fame.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Chuck Berry. Little Richard doesn't make rock and roll music. He makes hip hop.

[Lauren LaRosa]

He makes rap music. Yes, those artists make rock and roll music.

[DJ Envy]

So we're saying the same. So you're agreeing that those. Those artists contributed to rock and roll.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They are the architects of rock and roll.

[DJ Envy]

Okay, so we, we are on the same page with that, but you're basically saying it should have stopped with them. So no new artists at all. Should ever do rock and roll?

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Yes. I don't.

[DJ Envy]

I don't know. I don't. I don't think so. I feel. I think they.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I been thought they should have changed the name of the Rock and Roll hall of Fame. I said that every time the Rock and Roll hall of Fame announces people. I say that every year. Like, it should be called the hall of Fame. John Sykes. Salute to John Sykes. You know, big dog here at iHeart. I said that to him, like, why don't y' all just change it to the hall of Fame? When he was here, he talked about it.

[Lauren LaRosa]

We talked about it.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Well, let's take a listen. Let's take a listen as we close out to Gene Simmons. Talk about those music artists, those black artists inspiring him.

[Gene Simmons]

When my mother and I, legally, because there's a difference, immigrated to America, the first music I heard, we came here in 1958 was Chuck Berry and Little Richard. Black music, it was just starting to break through the racist wall of black music isn't played on white radio. Sweden 16 you, and life is Strange. One of the first songs I ever heard, or the first music certainly was Chuck Berry. An irony of all ironies is the Barry family asked me to do the eulogy at Chuck Berry's funeral. I was the only person of note there. McCartney and Keith Richards, none of the guys showed up. I don't know why. Because without Chuck Berry, they wouldn't be Beatles, Stones and Hendrix and whoever.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And, you know, Jay Z once attempted to have the Rock and Roll hall of Fame rebranded to reflect hip hop's cultural impact. And he wanted it to be called the Hip Hop hall of Fame. I don't agree with that either.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, that was.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think it should just be called the Music hall of Fame, but.

[DJ Envy]

But then they would.

[Lauren LaRosa]

All genres of music. Country, it's rock.

[DJ Envy]

Is because if it's just.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because if it's just what music.

[DJ Envy]

If it's just the Music hall of.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Fame, all genres can get in.

[DJ Envy]

Yes, all genres can get in. But then I feel like they're gonna move the goalpost on what? I don't know, like what genre is inducted, how much of which genre. And they move the goalposts in so many different things with these genres in music. I think that there's nothing wrong with us protecting.

[Lauren LaRosa]

They don't put baseball players in the NFL hall of Fame.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

I feel like we're arguing apples and oranges right now.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Really?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Not. Really not. And then the reason Jay Z wanted to call it a hip Hop hall of Fame because he said rock and roll music is dead, and it should be hip hop, because that is the genre of now. I don't think it should be that either. I just think it should be the Music hall of Fame.

[Lauren LaRosa]

All genres should be included.

[DJ Envy]

In 2015, Gene Simmons said he was waiting for the death of rap music. And then in 2016, NWA was inducted. So I don't think y' all ever gonna get y'.

[B Dot]

All.

[DJ Envy]

Y' all wish him or you guys.

[Lauren LaRosa]

All right, well, that is the lady for Lauren Charlemagne.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. Who you give me a donkey to, man? There is a white woman named Nicole Curtis who brought a lot of joy to my life this morning. Right? She needs to come to the front of the congregation. We need to have a word with her. Because I'm telling y' all right now, white people is having secret meetings, and they got secret languages and secret terms that we know nothing about. About. And they are involving some of our greatest colloquial. Colloquial. Colloquial.

[DJ Envy]

Slow down.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, okay.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Spit mad on that mic over there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Pause.

[Lauren LaRosa]

All right, we'll get to that.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Next, it's the Breakfast Club.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Good morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's time for Donkey of the Day. Things that I said.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Damn, Charlemagne.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Some donkey today is just seldom settle.

[DJ Envy]

It was you.

[Jess Hilarious]

What accountability are you taking?

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

I'm the breakfast.

[B Dot]

That being said, I want to start.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Off with this donkey right here. Clean up aisle 69. Clean up.

[DJ Envy]

Go ahead.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Clean up on aisle 69.

[DJ Envy]

He do anything to be able to bend over in here, don't he?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, shut up. Listen, Donkey of the day for Thursday, February 12, goes to an HGTV star named Nicole Curtis. Okay? Nicole. Nicole is the star of a show called Rehab Addict. But Rehab Addict has been canceled, okay? After Nicole Curtis used the racial slur while filming. Now, before I play you what Nicole Curtis said, I want you to know that she's 49 years old. She was born in 1976. Now, I was born in 1978, and I'm telling you right now, you get to a certain point in your life where you just say things, okay? I have no idea why. I randomly just walk around blurting out things, okay? Sometimes it be random things. My mind concocts like. Like Fraggle Maggot. I love calling people Fraggle Maggots, and I don't know why. Okay, Well, I do know why, but that's not the point, okay? You filthy Fraggle Maggot. Also, I find myself randomly screaming out rap lyrics that I can't relate to. It took me at least a Month to stop running around every moment screaming, I'm geeked up, looking for an eater.

[DJ Envy]

Now you can't relate.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So I'm not copping. Please. Okay? For Nicole Curtis, because we all have to deal with the consequences of our words, but the randomness of our words do get more random with age, and Nicole Curtis is proof of that. Would you like to hear what she had to say that got her HGTV show Rehab addict canceled. Let's listen.

[Mimi Brown]

Why?

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

It's my last one. Oh, fart nigger. What the Is that that I just said? Nick, you gotta. You gotta.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Can you kill that?

[Caller DeAndre]

What?

[DJ Envy]

My life.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I never heard that one.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nicole, Nicole, Nicole. Why would you say that? Say it again.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Oh, fart.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What is a fart? Is it an N word who likes to fart? Was she talking to herself? Was she gassy? And it wouldn't come out out, so she was trying to speak it into existence. I'm just trying to figure out why those two choice of words together. Now, I asked Chat GPT. I said chat. I did. I had to ask. I said chat. What is a fart? N word. I spelled it out, of course, and chat said. I'm going to answer this neutrally and factually, not endorsing the language, just explaining how it is commonly used. I've never heard this phrase in my life, but according to ChatGPT, it's commonly used. Used. Now, fart is slang, okay? Why is that? Turn that off. That's not me. I'm gonna get to that in a second. Now, fart is slang, okay? Not a literal term. All right? This is what Chad GPT told me. Fart is slang, not a literal term. It's used jokingly or insultingly to mean a goofy, annoying, or clownish person.

[DJ Envy]

That's.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I never knew this.

[DJ Envy]

It's a real definition somewhere.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what Chat GPT told me when I asked it.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, I just looked it up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It says someone who's doing dumb stuff, talking nonsense or acting unserious. Basically a corny dude or bozo in a casual, joking way. It's often said playfully among friends, are mockingly online, especially in meme culture group chats are trash talk. There's no real definition behind the vibe. It's more about the tone than meaning. This is what Chat GPT told me now. Wow. I've never heard any of this in my life, okay? But when Chat GPT tells me this, and then I watch the video, right? Because when you watch the video, I say to myself, wow, Nicole Curtis used the term Fart N word in his proper context, okay? And I'm gonna be honest, just playing white devil's advocate here. I don't know if this is a racial slur the way she used it. Of course the N word by itself is a racial slur. But when you put fart in front of it and there is no black people around you doing some rehab, you're doing something that makes you feel dumb while you are doing rehab, and so you just randomly scream out fart.

[DJ Envy]

Let's hear it again.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Oh.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know if that's a cancerable offense. What Let me tell you what I think should happen is she should be interrogated, okay? Because there's some secret white people meetings going on that we don't know about. Because how come Chat GPT knows that people are out here using the phrase fart N word, but we never heard about about it ever, okay? If there are secret white people meetings happening with secret white language, we need to know about it. The same way they need to understand what Bad Bunny was saying, we need to understand what they are saying, okay? If they are using a colloquial slang that derives from the racial slur and putting ass gas in front of it, we need to know why. How did we get here? Okay, I remember white people saying things like, golly G will it, all right? Or when they're shocked about something, they say things like, well, God damn it, Bob, smack me on the ass and call me a Splenda. But if their slang has advanced to things like fart N word, we need to know they out here using the N word in ways we can't even imagine, okay? We've heard, you know, bitch ass, N word. You know what I mean? We heard the F word in front of the N word. But in all my days. Days, okay, in all my days, I've never heard anybody put fart in front of the N word. And fart in front of the N word is like lemon pepper on some chicken wings. It gives it a different type of flavor, okay? But f all that, all right? There's no excuses. If you white saying the N word in any context, it will never end well, okay? When will white people stop making rookie mistakes consciously, subconsciously, under the influence, sober? It don't matter. Don't say the N word in any context. Please give Nicole Curtis the sweet sounds of the Hamiltons. Of the day. I'm gonna tell you something else, man. Certain words in front of the N word, man. Takes the sting off it because I've seen a Lot of bald head white guys. Guys walking around singing B all over social media, and ain't nobody say nothing to them. I ain't hear about nobody getting called to being canceled. And they on there going crazy to ball. They wilding, you know what I'm saying? I see a lot of white people lose. Oh, you want to do. For breeze in here? Smell like rotten eggs, boy, you smell like skunk legs. That girl foughts his tenderism. Boy, they falling out her ass. Yeah, she got unleaded gas. Go, Charlotte.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Go, go, go. I'm.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm really crazy, cuz I did not know like the definition said. This word has a long history of being used dehumanize and harm black people. I've never heard of that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, that's the regular. That's the N word. I put it in chat GPT what is fun.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And that's what came up with no.

[DJ Envy]

Was that. Was that before or after Rosa park sat at the back of the bus?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Exactly. I sound like it's just explaining the one word to you that ain't got. Yo, it was so crazy.

[DJ Envy]

Your phone is gentrified. Your phone is very gentrified. I didn't even tap in with the ancestors the right way.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Oh, my goodness.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

All right, all right.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Well, thank you for that dog here today.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, ma'.

[DJ Envy]

Am.

[Lauren LaRosa]

What you want to do?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let's do ask.

[Lauren LaRosa]

All right. Ask C800-585-1051 if you need relationship advice or any type of advice. Jess is out today, so we'll help you out with your relationship issues. All right? It's Valentine's Day. Maybe you need some help with your Valentine's. Whatever it may be. 800-585-1051. It's the Breakfast Club.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Good morning time again. Ask Charlamagne and DJ Envy anything.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Pick it up, pick it up, pick it up.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

It's time to ask cne.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Laura Rose is here as well. We have Shannon on the line. Shannon, what's your question for cne?

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

So.

[Caller Shannon]

Hey, y'.

[Caller DeAndre]

All.

[Caller Shannon]

Morning, guys.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, Shannon.

[DJ Envy]

Good morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How you doing, Shannon?

[Caller Shannon]

I'm good. How y' all doing? I love y'.

[DJ Envy]

All.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We bless Black and Holly family. I love you more.

[Lauren LaRosa]

What's up, Shannon?

[Caller Shannon]

I know. That's right. So my man, you know, we've been together for seven years, and so we. He don't celebrate Valentine's Day because maybe about like 20 years ago, his cousin passed on this day. So it's Very. A hard day for him or whatever. I understand that and everything like that, but at the same time, you know, it's been like 30 years or whatever, and, you know, I want to be celebrated, too. I just want to know, like, what can I do to get him in that celebration?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, first of all, you calling from the 843. Right. I can hear the geechee in your voice. I think that, you know, you should respect the fact that, you know, that's probably a day that he grieves, but it's also a day that he probably really needs real love. So it's kind of the perfect day. Right. So I just think that you should, you know, go out of your way to just love on him in whatever way he. He wants to be loved on.

[Caller Shannon]

Okay. Okay. I've been doing that too. You know, I did that one time before, but I kind of just fell back from doing it because, you know, it would just be more of me doing it on my end and him.

[DJ Envy]

Just, you know, that might be okay, though.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Did you ever have a conversation with him? Did you tell him, look, I want to feel special. I want to be acknowledged. I want the effort and do things together. Did you have that conversation with him?

[Caller Shannon]

I did say that to him, but he still, you know, just years passing. It just always been me doing it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You should. You should just make it go ahead.

[DJ Envy]

Lauren, I don't think you should press that conversation. I think you should just take it as like, you kind of got to understand it's like a given take, and right now you gotta give. Because if. If he still is grieving, right? Maybe he's still dealing with something new every year because of the thought of it. You just gotta kind of love him through that. It's nothing you can do until he gets to that point. He'll come to you because he knows what you want.

[Lauren LaRosa]

She wants to be loved on a special holiday where people rec, you know, recognize love, and she wants to be loved. It's kind of like how you feel. Like everybody gets flowers here and you don't get some. You feel away.

[DJ Envy]

But listen, but that is 365 days in a year, Right? Right. What's your relationship outside of Valentine's Day?

[Caller Shannon]

I mean, you know, we don't do much, so, you know, I just think that, you know. Yeah. One day. You know, one day.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

See, I just want to tell you something. Lauren just started getting flowers, so I don't even know why the hell she chiming in. Listen, Laura just started getting flowers last week. Okay. Like she but up. She had two dudes up here fighting for her love, and then she finally cut one off. So don't even listen to her.

[DJ Envy]

Even this narrative is crazy. My tea told me to avoid negative things. Like you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What the hell is tea?

[DJ Envy]

My tea. Like my tea. I have a note on my tea that told me you were coming for.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It's like a fortune cookie. But I would have that conversation with him again and tell him how important it is to you. No joking, no laughing. And like Charlemagne said I would spoil him a little bit, too. But let him understand that, you know, you want to be feel loved, you want to feel appreciated.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Understand that. Though I don't think all year long.

[Lauren LaRosa]

He don't really.

[DJ Envy]

All year long is a little crazy, but I don't know. I asked him, like, what's the relationship?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He's from Charleston. We love a little different. Okay, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Caller Shannon]

Go ahead on with that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, yes, he does need to learn how to love.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Absolutely.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He does need to learn how to take care of his little one, you know?

[DJ Envy]

Okay.

[Caller Shannon]

All right. Thank y'.

[DJ Envy]

All.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Good luck. Yes, ma'.

[Caller Shannon]

Am.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And playing stuff together. Maybe that'll work. Like a couple's massage and stuff like that. Like you almost like that. Well, do it.

[DJ Envy]

Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You don't like another woman giving him a massage?

[Caller Shannon]

No, he don't like massage. He don't like stuff like that. That's what I'm saying. Like, it's hard. Like, I just decorated his house and stu. That's it.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Shannon, try that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Don't you eat that, man. Bo. And be bi. No, no, don't listen to him. I hate when bisexual men give advice. Relationship. Yes, you do. Bisexual men always should not give relationship advice because they do things that we can't relate to. Is boy.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Like what?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Ask C&E851 biracially bisexual. Shut up. It's the Breakfast Club. We're in the middle of asking. Hello, who's this?

[Caller Shannon]

Roxanne.

[Lauren LaRosa]

What's your question for C?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, Roxanne.

[Caller Shannon]

Hi. So I'm in relationship for two years and I asked him a question, you know, would you ever be able to be in love with me? And he told me no, due to previous. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Due to previous relationships and heartbreaks, he said he's scared to be in love with anyone else.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, that's so interesting when people say things like that to me, because I don't think you can help grow in the love somebody. So for him to say that is wild to Me, like. Like, if. If y' all been together two years and you know, y'. All. Y' all like each other, that has to grow into something. Y' all having raw sex. You know what I mean? Sweating on each other. That gotta turn into something, right? Spending time with each other, getting to know each other. Like, why are you fronting?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Or he don't look at you as, you know, a. A wifey material. He just looked at you as a.

[DJ Envy]

Piece actual of ass for that long, though.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

It could be.

[Lauren LaRosa]

He could be just.

[DJ Envy]

Just a good piece of ass. But he front end for two years. If she ain't just a piece of nothing, you start to care a little bit, maybe.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Maybe not.

[Caller Shannon]

Like he's trying to come ready for that, because how can you ever do something like that? You're not, you know, interested in being in love with me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, you tell him you can't buy. If he. If he can't buy the cow, he ain't getting no milk.

[Lauren LaRosa]

That's right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay. That takes a commitment. He got to make some type of real commitment.

[Lauren LaRosa]

That's right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You can't be in love.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You can't say you don't not in love with me. But you want to move it in my house. You want these jams each and every day. No, it's not gonna work.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like. And make that man go to therapy. Why you got to deal with his past trauma? His past. He. I don't even know why people bring past trauma in their relationships. Don't get in new relationships if you still holding on to old trauma that's affecting your current relationship.

[DJ Envy]

Like, all the way goes away. I don't think it ever all the way goes away.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, if you want to be in a new relationship, you should not worry about what happened in the past relationship. There's no way I would approach. Like, it's like getting a new job, right? And thinking every time you get a new opportunity. Opportunity? You basing it on what happened at the last one? No, this is a new chapter. Act like it.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Roxanne, your body's a temple.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know. I heard Instagram. Roxanne, I'm here. Yeah, I mean, I don't know what advice to tell you because you're gonna still have sex with that man. This weekend is Valentine's Day, and, you know, you are raw, too.

[Caller Shannon]

No, I've been. No, I've been holding out.

[DJ Envy]

Thank you.

[Caller Shannon]

After I got the information, I said, hold up. No, we gotta stop this.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

When? Last Friday? No.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yesterday?

[Caller Shannon]

No, we have. No, we haven't missed Ramen trailer for so.

[Gene Simmons]

Oh.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, man.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, girl, now, I don't think that's your name no more. Anyway, don't worry about it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, if y' all together on Valentine's Day, I'll be shocked.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Damn.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Call us on Monday and let us know if y' all spend time together. You got plans for the weekend?

[Caller Shannon]

Yeah, he had plans.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, he got plans. Do y' all got plans?

[Caller Shannon]

Yes, we have plans together.

[Lauren LaRosa]

All right, well, enjoy Valentine.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta love yourself enough to know. I don't know, man. Why? What do we have? I'm saying I don't have no idea. I don't know. I don't know. Body's a temple.

[DJ Envy]

Your body's a temple.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Know when to love yourself. That's the type of advice you got. You gotta love yourself enough to know when to love yourself. There you go. What? Clack it. I'll tell you one thing, though. The funniest thing I ever heard a man say to a woman when they broke up was, I'm not in love with you. But I tried.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I tried.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, my God.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Oh, that's crazy.

[DJ Envy]

I would break me in and I.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Randomly bring it up to her every now and then.

[Lauren LaRosa]

A foul.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who's that?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Britney.

[Caller Shannon]

This is Britney.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Hey, Britney. What's your question for C?

[Caller Shannon]

Okay, so I bought my boyfriend the Creed Adventist perfume and accidentally had it delivered to our old address. And that perfume's really expensive, so I don't know if I should just tell him what happened or try to get him a replacement gift.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why don't you go to the address and say, hey, if we used to.

[Caller Shannon]

Live in the hood, I know it's gone.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's gone. But you know what, though?

[Caller Shannon]

It's gone.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, that. That Creed. That Creed event is like 500 a bottle.

[Caller Shannon]

I know, I know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn. I'm gonna be honest with you. Sound like you lying.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Damn.

[Caller Shannon]

I'm not lying. I swear. It got delivered to the wrong address. So right now I'm fighting with, you know, Amazon to see if I can and work out something with them, but I don't know what I should do.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It happened to me the other day. You know what you could do, though? You could tell them, show them the receipt, and you could go to the mall and get mad of the tester ones. You know, like the little tester things. Just give them, like, a bunch of testers and say, because I sent it to the wrong address, you just got to live with this. He might find it funny and joke it might be.

[DJ Envy]

Don't give him no.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Kind of laughable.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This is what I'm gonna do for you. Give me. Give me your cash app, right?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Oh, that's nice.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, no, no, no, no. That's nice of you, but I'm going to give you enough for, like, the 30 milliliter bottle, not that 100 milliliter bottle.

[DJ Envy]

Okay?

[Lauren LaRosa]

How much is 30 miller?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Don't worry about it. Okay, but it ain't.

[Caller Shannon]

I appreciate that. I appreciate that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Give me your cash app.

[Caller Shannon]

Is Britney B, R, I, B, N, E, Y.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hold on.

[DJ Envy]

Britney.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm kind of old now. Slow down. Hold on one second. Now, God damn it. Hold on. What is it?

[Caller Shannon]

Hold on, Britney. But spelled with a D, so it's B, R, I, D, N, E. Yeah. And then money. M, O, N, E, Y.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, I'm gonna send you a couple dollars. You get the. This is for the 30 milliliter bottle. Now, I ain't. That honey. Milliliter bottle is ridiculous.

[Caller Shannon]

Oh, well, I appreciate it. Charlamagne. Let me give him a quick shout out because this is a good man to me and I wanted him to have a good Valentine's Day. To Wilfred, you are the amazing dad, amazing partner for me, and I love you today. Yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So you get a 3.3 ounce one. That's the one you getting?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, I'm getting the 30ml. 30ml? 50ml. 100ml.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Let me see the 30ml. How much that cost, man?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why is you worried about how much it cost? Leave people alone. All right.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Well, good luck, mama.

[Caller Shannon]

Thank you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Peace. Britney o.

[Lauren LaRosa]

That's a 100mL.

[DJ Envy]

If I need anything for the Valentine's Day gifts, I'm buying.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

First of all, you and your husky ass, man. Got a couple dollars. Okay. Don't that man got a job job?

[DJ Envy]

A great one.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right.

[DJ Envy]

But I'm buying gifts for him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What?

[DJ Envy]

Yes, I'm buying gifts for him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Y' all know Lauren, man work at dhs. Y' all know that, right? She don't want nobody to know.

[DJ Envy]

You know, he don't work no dang dhs. No, I'm buying gifts for him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I actually never want to double date with double date with him. J, man, Mexican.

[DJ Envy]

I've been doing, like, gifts, like, little, little things each day leading up to.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Oh.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Oh, well, let's get to the latest with Lauren.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Your talk. LL Cool.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah. I'm not dumbing myself down. I'm being myself.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She gets him from somebody that knows somebody. She gets the details.

[DJ Envy]

I'm the home girl that knows a little bit about everything.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She be having the latest on the.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Latest with Lauren LaRosa.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Sometimes you have facts, sometimes you have beats tell. Sometimes she have a little bit of everything. Oh, it's the loot brought to you by Top Dog Law on the Breakfast Club. Talk to me. LL Cool Bay. Top Dog Low.

[Mimi Brown]

Yes.

[DJ Envy]

Why you got that hat on like that, like an old person?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because I am an old person. Expect your elders.

[DJ Envy]

Turn it to the side a little bit. All right, so really quickly, I know that there's been the. All of the reports around the shooting that happened with The San Francisco 49ers defensive lineman Keon White, which people are alleging involved Little Baby, but we don't know that for certain. But yesterday, Keon White spoke out for the first time following the shooting just to let everybody know he was good. He says thank you to everyone who has reached out with their prayer and concerns on my behalf. I've undergone successful surgery. For those who know me, y' all know this won't stop me from spreading peace and joy to the world. Full steam ahead. I'm in great spirits and ready to make the most of this offseason. And he's, like, throwing up the peace sign from the bed.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know why people want to be around people. What you mean? Because whenever you around people, stuff like this happen. That's why I don't like being around.

[DJ Envy]

People he's talking about because it went down at the park. I mean, but it was the Super.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Those events like that. But I'm saying that was a whole week weekend. Those super bowl weekends and the All Star weekends, like, oh, man, it's fun.

[DJ Envy]

But I get what you're saying. For those who don't know, because we didn't report it yet, but the backstory was that Keon White was at a Super Bowl. He was doing a Super bowl party at a place in San Francisco. There was an argument that ensued between two groups of people. Now some people are reporting that Little Baby was involved. But the actual police report, no one has seen it. Police won't confirm it. I even tried to get another confirmation yesterday.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And he's young. He wants to go out his city, his town. He's out and about. They're having parties. He wanted to go.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I had to go to LA yesterday for the day for a meeting, and I didn't realize it was All Star Weekend. I'm like, get me out of here right now. As soon as the meeting was over, first thing smoking, he's gone. No Too many tall people and too many rappers.

[DJ Envy]

Well, yeah. So you're crazy Charlemagne.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I know.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah. In other news, though, but I guess related news to just some updates. So you guys remember there's been a guy named Patrick Clark who is the suspect in the killing of Takeoff. Now, they've been going through the process of getting to a trial and an actual trial date has been set. So the trial date, it was announced yesterday by Patrick's attorney, was set for November 9th. Jury selection is going to begin on November 5th. This is almost four years after the tragic shooting of takeoff back in 2022 in Houston. So that'll go down in November. And Patrick Clark has been maintaining that he did not fire that fatal shot. So they'll be, you know, going back and forth in court trying to. I guess he's trying to prove his innocence, but we'll see what happens there as well too. Yes, for sure.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Take off healing energy.

[DJ Envy]

Yes. And in another update, JCole and Cameron. So $500,000 lawsuit. Remember Cameron filed that lawsuit saying that JCole basically, like backed out of doing business with him after he promised to. J. Cole has responded to that lawsuit for the very first time. And he's saying that Cam was actually down for the record. Like, he says that Cameron was excited to be on it, and he's kind of insinuating that it would. It helped Cameron career wise. That's why he wanted the record to be out. And that, that J. Cole says that he never agreed to do anything.

[Lauren LaRosa]

He responded to his lawyer.

[DJ Envy]

Yes. No. So, yes, these are through documents through his lawyer. So his lawyer is saying that Cameron was very happy to be a part of the record, that J. Cole never promised any of the things that Cameron is saying. And that that amount, the $500,000, is just too much when it comes to like a feature and what something like that will cost. So it's basically absurd. And they want this dismissed in a way that Cameron cannot refile if he chooses to. And they want to make sure that J. Cole doesn't have to pay any of the fees for this being brought. And I mentioned before that this was dismissed, but it was only parts of it that were dismissed. So a little update there. And now we get to Brorilla. So Glorilla's sister, her name is Victoria, has responded to us reporting on Girl, you bothered her. And what, she doesn't like some of the things that you had to say up here.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I haven't even said nothing. How did I say you told her.

[DJ Envy]

Basically, we'll get to what you said but Victoria, who is Glorilla's sister, who people are calling bro.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Oh, so she didn't name herself bro Rilla. Everybody else did.

[DJ Envy]

I never saw her call herself that. I've never seen it.

[Lauren LaRosa]

But Victoria.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Go ahead.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, so basically she's upset at Charlamagne and some of the things that he says, and she says that we didn't cover it the right way. Let's take a look.

[Jess Hilarious]

Listen, we got Charlemagne, the goddess, Elbow head, ass, mission. To me on the Breakfast Club, Bro, your name sound like a.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Don't worry about me.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

I'm on it. I'm on it.

[Jess Hilarious]

I'm on it. Coming with receipts. Come with receipts. Y' all have advertised the goddamn store.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Lauren. I was gonna put the video with.

[Jess Hilarious]

Her putting them in there, but y' all ain't put my receipts on there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And y' all got a big platform, so.

[Jess Hilarious]

Hell yeah, I got a problem with y'.

[Caller DeAndre]

All.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why the y' all ain't got no breakfast up there? It's called a Breakfast Club.

[Lauren LaRosa]

That's true.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Elbow headache.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Ass.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

First of all.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Damn.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

First of all, we do have breakfast. We got breakfast this morning. This morning we do what I do to sister. Mister. I said something about her.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You hoe?

[DJ Envy]

Yeah. You basically said that that she needs to gorilla is not entitled to help her. She need to go get her own job. There's a reason why Glorilla is probably keeping her away. And. And to be clear, I didn't play the video of the receipts because I read the text. I told y'.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

All.

[DJ Envy]

It was in the text message of her receipt. So we reported it the way that it was put out there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Elbow, ass. Mister.

[Lauren LaRosa]

What?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wish you the best. Okay, Sister. Mister. Mister. Sister. Talk about a two way twister shaking up the family tree. Oh, oh, oh, oh.

[DJ Envy]

She's gonna miss.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What you mean? I was on a plane yesterday and somebody sent me that video. So I saw it before I heard it. So all I saw was the visual. And I was like, what the hell did I do for do the finesse two times. Oh, she gonna get you.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, my God. She got money now, too. She got time today.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You get on his ass today.

[DJ Envy]

She posted yesterday she said she made $200,000.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And you believe that?

[DJ Envy]

She said her network is going to be it's going to be 1 million in the next five weeks.

[Lauren LaRosa]

That's right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I believe you don't do that. You know why you shouldn't do that? Because you're encouraging bad behavior and you're going to have somebody in your Family jump online and start talking crazy because they think. They think they can make $20,000 in a week. You know damn well that's happen.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I like her going at you, though.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Stop that. Elbow ass.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Okay, what's your elbow? Ass? Forehead. Ass.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, she got ahead like Frankenstein. She got ahead like Frankenstein. Put Frankenstein up on one side and then put her up on the other side and call her Frankenstein. And instead of the two boats on her neck like Frankenstein, she got two dildos, sister.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Miss.

[Lauren LaRosa]

See, that's your problem. That's your problem.

[DJ Envy]

That's what she call you home.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

See, Talking about two ways with stuff. And that's why taking up the family tree. Oh, oh, oh, oh.

[DJ Envy]

Every day. Your specialness amazes me every single day in here. Now that. That is the. The. We're wrapping up the latest. Make sure you guys check out the podcast, the Latest with Lauren LaRosa. We'll be talking about an exclusive because yesterday Jeannie, my Anderson popped out. Popped out. And I confirmed that. They're dating, y'.

[Lauren LaRosa]

All.

[DJ Envy]

There was a video circulating. They're dating. I confirmed it. Listen to the podcast. I'm gonna give you all the details because I'm all in their business. That's it. Oh, and it's a pack Asian, though, right?

[Lauren LaRosa]

What? Yeah, Yeah, I think he is. I think he is.

[DJ Envy]

So what does it have to do with the fact that they're dating? Like, why did you call that out?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She as you, too.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

That's good. I like.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I like seeing couples that are their. Their thing together. You like seeing same racist together. I ain't got no problem with that at all.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Come on, do your sponsorship.

[DJ Envy]

Listen, any problem at all, call Top Dog off. It's big or small. Call Top Dog Law. Thank you for sponsoring the segment.

[Lauren LaRosa]

All right, when we come back, we got the mix to People's Choice mixes. The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. That's Black History Month. What we doing, Charlemagne.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Salute to my guy, B Dot. Man. Every day during Black History Month, B Dot does a podcast called I didn't know, maybe you didn't, where he talks to you about things that have happened in black history that you may not have known about. And today, he's going to tell us about George Crumb's accidental invention of the potato chip and how that became a global industry, yet so few people know the black native chef behind the snack. So B Dot, the floor is yours.

[B Dot]

The snack heard around the world. Welcome back north to another another episode of the most anticipated podcast on the Black Effect Podcast network, especially in February, entitled I didn't know. Maybe you didn't either. I'm your host, B. Dot. And I know I'm getting older because my favorite flavor of potato chips is plain, followed closely by sour cream and onion. Third would be salt and vinegar, and sour cream and cheddar will probably round out my Mount Rushmore of chips. And to kick off today's episode, I would like to give you three of the most useless facts you'll never need, not a day in life. Your first useless fact, the potato chip was invented because a customer was being annoying. Your second useless fact, that invention became a multi billion dollar global industry. And your third useless fact, the man who made it happen was black and Native American. Did you know his name? Cause I didn't know.

[DJ Envy]

Maybe you didn't know. I didn't know. Maybe you didn't know. I didn't know.

[Caller DeAndre]

Maybe you didn't.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I didn't know.

[DJ Envy]

I didn't know. I didn't know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I didn't know.

[B Dot]

All right, picture this. It's the 1850s, and you're at Moon's Lake House. That's a restaurant in Saratoga Springs, New York.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Don't worry about it.

[B Dot]

But it's fancy. But fancy for the 1850s. And you're the chef. And a customer sends his fried potatoes back.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They're too thick. They're too soggy.

[B Dot]

They're not.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Not crispy enough.

[B Dot]

So you fix it. But he sends it back again.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's still not right.

[B Dot]

Now you're looking at this play like, dude. And here's when the story gets beautiful. The chef, George Crumb, instead of losing his job and blanking on buddy, he sliced them potatoes paper thin, so thin you could see through them. And he fried them till they was as crunchy as a dope boy's toenails. Then he put hella salt on them, sent them back. Oh, you want crispy? I give you crispy. Bro was not trying to invent an industry. He was being petty, Murphy. But instead of complaining again, the customer loved him and so did everybody else in the restaurant. Then the word spread. People start coming back to Moon's Lake House just for the Saratoga chips. And just like that, the potato chip is born out of petty. Now here's the part History skips. George Crumb was black and Native American. His mama was a member of the Mohawk Nation and his daddy was the black. And I would also like to add that there are sources that credit his sister, Kate Wicks, as A co inventor or maybe even the primary inventor. But that accidental invention didn't just change menus. It created an entire global snack industry. You walk into any grocery store on earth and it's a whole aisle of crumbs. Idea lays Pringles, kettle chips, sweet potato chips, barbecue sour cream and onion. That fancy truffle flavor that cost $7 a bag. $7 for some potato chips? But George Crumb, space ain't on none of the bags. Bags. But again, that's infrastructure. A moment of creativity that becomes a permanent feature of daily life. And it fits perfectly with the marching 100. Energy, excellence don't always arrive with applause. Sometimes it shows up in irritation, then innovation and then execution. Crumb didn't set out to build an industry. He just solved a problem better than anybody else had done. And then the world copied the solution. First forever hidden in plain sight. Every bag you open is a tribute to a man most people never learned. About 100 years after Woodson's blueprint for remembering Crumbs, invention shows how black ingenuity shapes the world even when history forgets to record it. And I didn't know. Maybe you didn't either.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Salute to B Dot.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, salute to my guy, B Dot. And make sure you subscribe to the I didn't know. Maybe you didn't either. Podcast Podcast on the Black Effect I Heart radio podcast network. Available everywhere you listen to podcasts.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Salute to everybody that called for C E that needed some advice for Valentine's.

[DJ Envy]

Yes, and you know the perfect thing to do for Valentine's Day?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Have sex.

[DJ Envy]

Oh my God. Or you can go to the movies and see Weather and Heights. It's from Warner Brothers Pictures. It's an award winning film by filmmaker Emerald Fennell. It stars Margaret Robbie and Jacob Elordi in a bold feverish reimagining of of Emily Bronte's classic. Emerald Fennell takes audiences on an emotionally charged journey following Kathy, who played who was played by Margaret Robbie and Heathcliff, played by Jacob Elordi, as their forbidden love transforms from romantic to intoxicating crossing into beautiful, brutal madness in the epic love story destined to define a generation. It's perfect for Valentine's Day weather and heights. Only in theaters tomorrow. Experiencing an IMAX Rated R Under 17 not admitted without a parent.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Salute to everybody out in dc. I'm going to be in DC over the weekend for a hot minute man shout out to Quicksilver. We're doing a party out there for Valentine's Day so all the couples come on out. If you're in the DMV area. We have a lot of fun on Saturday.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let me tell you something. I got the best Valentine's Day plans. I mean, God is so good to me. You hear me? Okay, Mom.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Oh, oh, but don't say it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm definitely not going to say it. I'll tell y' all after the fact. But boy, oh, boy, oh, boy, man, God is so good. But, yeah, Valentine's Day is going to be great. Salute to Carl Anthony Payne. He. He was up here this morning, man. Legend. He. He's got comedy shows this weekend in Harlem, Brooklyn, Jersey City. So go to his website. What's his website, Lauren? She don't know nothing. For real. For real. Go to Carl Pain entertainment.com, okay? Carl Payne entertainment.com for tickets. And if you want, like, the merchandise and everything that he's selling, you can go get that there, too. All right. And also, I want to salute to Mimi Brown, who does our front page news, man. You know, last week, Mimi actually went to Minnesota, you know what I'm saying? Because Mimi really be doing that investigative journalism thing. I know y' all remember her. What was the. The audio script that she did with love from Altadena. With love, where she covered the wildfires that happened. But this time she went out to Minnesota, went out to Minneapolis, and just was boots on the ground, you know, talking to Attorney General Keith Ellison. And who else did she speak to?

[DJ Envy]

She spoke to the woman that was also arrested.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Georgia Fort.

[DJ Envy]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Georgia Fort. Yes, he spoke to Georgia Fort. So it's up on our YouTube channel now, man. So go check it out when you get a chance, man. All right.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Well, you got a positive note.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I do have a positive note. It's about kindness. Be the reason someone smiles. Be the reason someone feels loved and believes in the goodness of people. Have a great day. Breakfast Club, wake you up.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Wake that ass up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Program your Alarm to Power 105.1 on iHeartRadio.

[Lauren LaRosa]

That's right. It's DJ Envy.

[DJ Envy]

It's your girl Jess.

[Carl Anthony Payne II]

Hilarious.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I go by the name of Charlamagne. Tha God. And we are the world's most dangerous morning show, the Breakfast Club. You just finished listening to, you know, our podcast for today. That's right. And we want you to go watch the visuals on Netflix. You know, we. We're still on YouTube, but it's the clips on YouTube. But if you want to watch the Breakfast Club in full, if you want to see what you just listened to, go to Netflix.

[DJ Envy]

That's right. Find us on Netflix.

[Mimi Brown]

Show.

[DJ Envy]

This is an I heart podcast. Guaranteed human.