FULL SHOW: Mo’Nique Sends Message to Tyler Perry: “Take Accountability,” Fat Joe Praises Gunna’s Album, Target CEO Resigns + Laura Coates Interview

Summary

The Breakfast Club: August 20, 2025

FULL SHOW: Mo’Nique Sends Message to Tyler Perry: “Take Accountability,” Fat Joe Praises Gunna’s Album, Target CEO Resigns + Laura Coates Interview

Hosts: DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God
Guests: Laura Coates (CNN legal analyst), Lauren LaRosa (front page news & "Latest With Lauren")

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Overview

This dynamic episode of The Breakfast Club covers a range of trending topics and interviews:

• Mo’Nique's demand for public accountability from Tyler Perry and Oprah

• Fat Joe's controversial praise for Gunna’s new album amid "snitching" accusations in hip-hop

• Breaking news: Target CEO Brian Cornell resigns amid sales drops and DEI backlash

• In-depth interview: CNN's Laura Coates discusses legal literacy, the Trump era, and breaking barriers in media

• Listener call-ins, workplace drama, birthdays, news updates, and plenty of trademark humor from the hosts

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Episode Highlights

1. Crew Check-in, Listener Call-ins, & Morning Vibes [02:15–13:00]

• Jess Hilarious celebrates her daughter’s first birthday. Charlamagne reflects on time passing, “Time ain't waiting for nobody.” [02:51]
• Listeners call in for shout-outs, birthday wishes, and to joke with the hosts
• “I love all my fans. Don't play with me. They are the reasons why I'm here.” – Jess Hilarious [13:02]

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2. Front Page News: Crime, Politics & Weather [05:24–10:29 | 33:16–41:00]

Key topics:

• Crime Surge in DC: White House touts arrests from Trump’s “crime crackdown;” debate over intent—crime vs. immigration enforcement. [05:29–06:18]

  “President Trump has successfully stopped people from talking about the Epstein files and the economy… It's worked.” – Charlamagne [09:24]

• Brooklyn Nightclub Shooting: Two shooters among three killed; continued manhunt [07:14]
• Hurricane Aaron: Outer bands threaten US East Coast; rip currents close beaches [07:35]
• Smithsonian Row: Trump calls for a review of the Smithsonian Museum, attacking what he calls "woke" history [08:58]
• Texas Democratic Lawmaker Confinement: Nicole Collier claims illegal restraint after refusing a required police escort; protest erupts [33:16–37:40]

  “This is just one little petty way of showing they have the upper hand.” – Rep. Collier [34:30]

• Baltimore Mayor Faces Racist Voicemail: Mayor Scott shares vile hate call, says it means he’s “doing his job” [38:09–40:29]

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3. Latest With Lauren: Trending Entertainment News [20:22–27:32 | 72:22–78:48 | 104:41–111:13]

• Tamar Braxton Health Scare: Tamar recounts a mysterious injury and hospitalization after being found in a pool of blood, sparking speculation.

  “Stories like that just lead to a lot of unnecessary speculation.” – Charlamagne [21:51]

• Mo’Nique v. Tyler Perry:
  • Monique calls out Tyler Perry for derailing her career and demands a public apology and restitution.

  “Tyler Perry, you will not do this to another... you told a lie.” – Mo’Nique [24:37]

  • Jess and Lauren recall the origins: “That lie cost me 12 years of my career.” [24:37]
• Target CEO Steps Down: Brian Cornell’s resignation after 11 years, with ongoing sales decline and DEI backlash [72:22]

  “I can't keep up with everything we supposed to boycott. I'm sorry.” – Lauren [27:51]

• Fat Joe & Gunna/Snitching Debate: Fat Joe praises Gunna’s album despite snitch allegations; spirited roundtable on hip-hop’s changing attitudes.

  “It don’t matter. If you throw on a bop, a bop’s gonna bop. I could care less what he did in the courtroom.” – Charlamagne [76:28]

• Layla Ali v. Claressa Shields Potential Fight: Layla teases a comeback if the price is right, pushing women's boxing forward [108:47]

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4. Interview: Laura Coates—Legal Analysis, Representation, and Media [41:08–71:38]

Insights & Notable Quotes

• Explaining Law to the Public:

  “Never use a twenty-dollar word when a quarter word will do. You have to meet people where they are.” – Laura Coates [43:58] “If you can't explain it to a child, you don't understand it.” [43:58]

• The Power of ‘Why’:

  “The toughest question you can ask a person is why.” – Charlamagne, recalling Larry King's advice [46:12] “The 'why' requires you to explain the way it was, how you've let it be, and also how you could change it. You’re being challenged in one word.” – Laura [46:33]

• Breaking Down Voting Rights & The Trump Era:

  “If voting goes away, almost nothing else you want to argue about is important enough to counteract that.” – Laura [58:28] “Don't sleep on the Fourth Amendment... the more power you give officers... the more you live in a place where that goes away.” [58:28]

• On Jeopardy Hosting Snub & Representation:

  “I was always very resentful of it, and I still am… It wasn't Alex Trebek's call who replaced him. Told me I have to examine power differently.” [66:20]

• Balancing Professionalism and Personality:

  “The best advice I ever got was from Steve Harvey: I am the same person no matter where you see me. Just a different outfit, different hair, different lipstick…” – Laura [70:24]

• Discussion of legal nuance in recent trials (e.g., Diddy trial), racial representation among prosecutors, and sentencing disparities

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5. Listener Call-Ins: HR Complaints Gone Wild [87:19–102:40]

• Topic: Most ridiculous reasons you (or your coworkers) were reported to HR
  • “Have you ever been filed a complaint at HR? …A woman reported a co-worker for not being invited to her wedding!” [88:32]
  • Funny stories about stick figure fat drawings, song lyrics misinterpreted as insults, and being caught sleeping at work
  • Jess: “I never been sent to HR. I never sent nobody to HR. Right. There are times that I feel like I probably should have ended up…” [89:16]
  • “The reason I am the way I am, is because if I ever go to HR, I want it to be funny!” – Charlamagne [102:26]

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6. Donkey of the Day: Open Marriages Gone Wrong [79:12–85:18]

• Charlamagne spotlights a story of a woman who killed her husband after open marriage rules changed.

  “What's the point of being married if you're gonna leave your marriage open at all times like a Waffle House?” – Charlamagne [83:02]

  • Lighthearted (and darkly comic) take on relationships, boundaries, and impulsive decisions

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7. Miscellaneous: Food Segment, Sponsor Moments & Closing Notes

• Golden Corral provides a huge breakfast spread in studio, sparking playful banter about buffet strategy and yeast rolls [112:30–115:27]
• Jess Hilarious thanks fans for helping her sell out MessyVision eyewear [111:15]
• Charlamagne’s Positive Note: “Great works are performed not by strength, but by perseverance.” [116:12]

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Notable Quotes & Moments with Timestamps

• “I feel blessed, Black and highly favored. Happy to be here another day to serve our beautiful listeners.” – Charlamagne [02:24]
• “Stories like that just lead to a lot of unnecessary speculation.” – Charlamagne on Tamar Braxton [21:51]
• “You will not do this to another, as long as I can help it, because you told a lie.” – Mo’Nique on Tyler Perry [24:37]
• “If you can’t explain it to a child, you don’t understand it.” – Laura Coates [43:58]
• “Voting—if that goes away, nothing else you want to argue about matters.” – Laura Coates [58:28]
• “The toughest question you can ask a person is why.” – advice recalled by Charlamagne [46:12]
• “I've never been sent to HR, and I never sent nobody to HR. But there are times I probably should have ended up at HR.” – Jess Hilarious [88:40]
• “He was shot and killed... after his wife drank four or five Angry Orchard Hard Ciders.” – Charlamagne, Donkey of the Day [79:28]

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Segment Timestamps (MM:SS)

• 02:15 – Opening banter, birthdays, show intro
• 05:24 – Front Page News I (crime, weather, Trump/Smithsonian)
• 13:03 – Callers: shout-outs and grumbles
• 19:16 – Trending Entertainment News (Tamar Braxton)
• 24:37 – Mo’Nique on Tyler Perry
• 33:16 – Front Page News II (Texas lawmaker, Baltimore mayor hate mail)
• 41:08 – Laura Coates in studio
• 58:28 – Laura on voting rights, policing, Trump-era laws
• 72:22 – Target CEO resigns
• 76:00 – Fat Joe & Gunna album debate
• 79:12 – Donkey of the Day: Open Marriage Murder
• 87:19 – HR complaint call-ins
• 104:41 – The Latest With Lauren (Life Jennings’ song, Layla Ali and women’s boxing)
• 111:15 – MessyVision eyewear plug / wrap-up
• 112:30 – Golden Corral segment
• 116:12 – Positive Note

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Thematic Recap

Tone: Signature Breakfast Club blend—playful, irreverent, but able to shift gears for serious interviews and news.

Major Themes:

• Demands for accountability and public apologies (Mo’Nique, Target CEO)
• Evolving attitudes on justice, legal systems, music industry politics
• Representation and fairness in media and corporate America
• Real talk on workplace pettiness, relationships, and family

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For listeners wanting an expert blend of major headlines, cultural debate, and authentic conversation—with both depth and plenty of laughs—this episode of The Breakfast Club delivers.

Transcript

[Morgan Wood]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[DJ Envy]

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[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

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[Laura Coates]

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[DJ Envy]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Laura Coates]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

Good morning usa. Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo yo.

[DJ Envy]

Just hilarious.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Good morning, Charlemagne the guy. Peace to the planet. Guess what day it is. Guess what day it is. Pump day. How y' all feeling out there? I feel blessed, Black and highly favored. Happy to be here another day to serve our beautiful listeners. Good morning.

[DJ Envy]

Good morning. How you feeling, Jess?

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Feel good. Today is my daughter's birthday. Happy birthday to Marlee Sky. Can y' all believe she's one already? No.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That was fast.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Well, yeah, it seems fast to me, too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wow.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

I swear. Yep.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Time ain't waiting for nobody.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

I know. I know, right? And then. All right, so she was born 2:47am last year on, you know, August 20th. Why does she wake up at, like, 1:45 and she stayed woke until 3:00'? Clock? That's crazy. So she woke up on her birthday.

[DJ Envy]

She wants to turn up.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Yes, y' all woke up. But only she was crying because she is teething. But still, like, she woke up, she was thinking about.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I wonder, do kids remember that? Like, at that age? Do they remember being in the womb a year ago? You know what I mean?

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

I don't know. Because kids got special abilities. Yo. We don't be knowing.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

For real.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

I believe you ain't never seen kids look up in the corner and be playing. And you look up, there ain't nothing up there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I thought I was boredom.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Hey, yo, no. Not his baby.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, you mean as a child?

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Babies do that?

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, yeah, all the time. Oh, my God.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

It's scary. But they got special abilities, y'.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

All.

[DJ Envy]

Well, happy birthday tomorrow. I know you're super duper excited for her birthday party this weekend.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Absolutely. Listen, I did this myself. Me and my party planner.

[DJ Envy]

I did this myself with my party planner.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

TK that is my girl. My Nigerian sister. She does all my events. What?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I said, poor Chris don't get credit for nothing. I know. He put up a couple of pinatas for the birthday.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Oh, first of all, no. Cause she's too young to hit a pinata clown.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, I'm sorry.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Yeah. Don't do that. Not yet. And then, you know, Mexicans, that's not really their specialty parties. They don't do that. No, they like to party, but it's not their specialty birthday parties. Mm. Mm.

[DJ Envy]

All right, well, let's get the show cracking.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

I'm not about to argue with you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

About something I don't know.

[DJ Envy]

We have CNN's chief legal analyst and anchor of Laura Coates Live. Laura Coates will be joining us this morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. Laura Coates, man. You know, she's a former prosecut cuda. Yes. You know, turned to cnn, anchor, moderator. But, you know, I enjoy watching Laura Coates live. I enjoy her perspective on things. So it's gonna be good to have Laura Coates up here this morning.

[DJ Envy]

That's right. Let's get the show cracking. We got front page news, so don't go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Let's get in some front page news. Start off with some quick sports. John Wall, NBA player. He retires after 11 seasons. He played most of his career with the Washington Wizards. He was a first pick in the 2010 draft out of Kentucky Star. He averaged 18.7 points, 8.9 assists. And he will be joining Prime Videos NBA coverage. So congratulations to John Wall, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Salute to John. He ain't played in a couple years though, right?

[DJ Envy]

Nah, I think he was injured one year and yeah, that's when he was.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Doing the Dougie all the time. Right, the dance. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

[DJ Envy]

All right. What's up, Morgan?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, y'.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

All.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey.

[Morgan Wood]

How we feeling on a hump day Wednesday?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Bless Black and Holly favorite girl.

[Laura Coates]

All right.

[Morgan Wood]

I love to hear it. So the White House is once again touting hundreds of arrests made during President Trump's crime crackdown in Washington, DC. Now, White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt highlighted what's been done so far. She says that 52 arrests were made on Monday night alone and alleged an MS.13 gang member with convictions for DWI and drug possession was also picked up. Let's take a listen to her comments.

[Laura Coates]

President Trump's efforts to make D.C. safe again are working. There have been a total of 465 arrests since the start of this operation.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

On Thursday, August 7th.

[Laura Coates]

Thanks to President Trump's leadership in the outstanding work of both federal and local law enforcement. Dangerous gang members like the one picked up last night will not be allowed.

[Lauren LaRosa]

On the streets of our nation's capital.

[Morgan Wood]

So this comes as several Republican led states have sent hundreds of national guard troops to D.C. to assist. Now, D.C. mayor Muriel Bowser has expressed that it doesn't make sense. And she called for the Trump administration to clarify whether the surge in federal troops posted in the nation's capital is meant to reduce crime or increase immigration enforcement. So again, I will keep you guys posted on what's going on with that. Now, speaking of violence, here's an update on the Brooklyn nightclub shooting that took place over the weekend. Authorities are now saying two of the three people killed in Sunday's nightclub gang related mass shooting in Crown Heights, Brooklyn were shooters themselves. Police Commissioner Jessica Tisch. This is NYPD Police Commissioner Jessica Tisch says 19 year old Marvin St. Louis and 35 year old Jamel Childs approached each other before bullets started flying and both were killed. Let's Take a listen to her comments. NYPD Commissioner Jessica Tisch.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

So to be clear, two of the three deceased are the shooters involved in the incident. Mr. St. Louis approached Mr. Childs and opened fire. Mr. Childs returned fire and two other gunmen immediately joined. We believe that there were four shooters in total.

[Morgan Wood]

So 27 year old Amadou Diallo was also killed. He was an innocent bystander in that incident. Now police are still looking for two of the other or looking for two other shooters in that incident. Meanwhile, the number of people shot at the taste of the city lounge has risen to 14 after two more people checked into the hospital with bullet wounds following that incident. Again, and like I said, Police Commissioner Jessica Tisch says that detectives are still looking for two of the four shooters. And a quick weather update on Hurricane Aaron. Millions of US Residents will still feel the impact of the outer bands of Hurricane Aaron even though the actual storm will not make landfall, or at least it's not projected to at this moment. The center of Aaron is forecast to move between the US east coast and Bermuda today and tomorrow with high surf and rip currents expected from Massachusetts to the Carolinas. In fact, I've been seeing a lot of beaches along the coast up here in ocean or here in Maryland in Ocean City, they've shut down the beach. I believe they've done the same along the coast in New York and Jersey. Some residents in the mid Atlantic have already evacuated, including along parts of North Carolina's Outer Banks, which is currently under a coastal flooding threat. And of course, as I mentioned, New York and New Jersey officials are also warning people to stay out of the water because of dangerous, deadly rip currents.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Yep.

[Morgan Wood]

And the Trump administration is confirming it will conduct a review of the Smithsonian museums. President Trump posted on Truth Social that the Muse the Smithsonian is quote, out of control. He said there's nothing about brightness and too much about how horrible our country is and how bad slavery was. Trump said he'll have the museums reviewed under the same process done with colleges and universities. He added, this country cannot be woke because woke up is broke.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So, you know, once again, I said this yesterday. Donald Trump has successfully stopped people from talking about the Epstein files audio economy. You know, between what he's doing in D.C. and his attack on museums. Right. You know, it's, he's successfully gotten people to stop talking about the Epstein files in the economy. And you know, it's interesting, at first he tried to do it through going at black, you know, notable figures like releasing the MLK files, saying he wanted to lock Obama up Going at Beyonce, going at Oprah. None of that work iq, whatever, that. He's right. None of that worked. Right. But he said, you know what? Forget the, you know, the notable figures. Let's actually go after their neighborhoods, D.C. and their history, the attack on museums, and it'll change the conversation. And guess what? It's worked.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Morgan Wood]

It's been about.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Absolutely worked.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nobody. People not talking about the FT5. They're not talking about the economy no more. They talking about, you know, what he said about the Smithsonian. Smithsonian and other museums. And they're talking about what's going on in D.C. rightfully so. But the Epstein files in the economy conversation vanished.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Gone out the window for sure.

[Morgan Wood]

It still needs to be happening, right?

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's the thing that bothered him, and that's the thing that bothered his base. Why would you stop talking about that?

[Lauren LaRosa]

All right, y'.

[Morgan Wood]

All, that's your front page news for 6am Stick around. At 7. We will talk about what's going on in Texas. It appears that there's a Democratic lawmaker who is being illegally confined. Or she's claiming that she's being illegally confined to the Texas Capitol House.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Claiming. No, it's actually happening.

[DJ Envy]

But we'll get to that next hour. Everybody else, get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, phone lines are wide open. Again, 800-585-1051 is the breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. This is your time to get it off your chest. Keep calling 800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Hello?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who's this?

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

Skp from Mansfield.

[DJ Envy]

What's up, kp? Get it off your chest, brother.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

Hey, I call up here and play all the time. Charlamagne told me, don't call the midget. Don't call them little people. But I'm just calling up here to give my mom a special shout out, man.

[DJ Envy]

Okay, you remember KP was the one that was doing the. The midget fighting. No, the little mini fighting.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, I thought you said. Was saying your mom was a. Yeah, yeah. No, no.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Me too. I low.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

My mom ain't no midget. We still is doing the little people fights and stuff. But no, she told me call up here and give her a shout out since I'll be calling up here and playing all the time.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So that's what's up, period.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Yes. Happy birthday. Oh, no, it's just a shout out. Ain't my birthday.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

No, it's just a Shout out. We've been through a lot, you know, the last few years. You know, she lost her. She lost my auntie and lost my granny the year. The year after that and stuff. So, you know, she's still out here being strong for it.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Definitely.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

I want to give her a special shout out. My mom name is Toya Majors. And you know, we just. I'm just letting her know that we love her.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Where you from?

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

Mansfield.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, okay. Landfill. What?

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

Ohio.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, okay.

[DJ Envy]

You're gonna be listening.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, I thought I knew it. Toya Majors. That's why I asked. Oh, my God.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

Hey, she know the round Mansfield, so.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nah, I never used to play in Mansfield. You say your mom got that work?

[DJ Envy]

What?

[Lauren LaRosa]

You're a crap.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What'd you say? Got that.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

And no, we didn't.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

Sorry, man. I'm calling up here to give mama.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

A shout out to mama, man. Yeah, it is crazy though, because there is somebody riding around listening like, man, I used to add toy out back in the day.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

He said that she. She's. She known around Mayersville or Lanceville.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Somebody hit you here, that's. You gotta think about. It's crazy.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Hello?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who's this?

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

Yeah, yo, can you hear me?

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, what's up? What's your name, brother?

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

This is Rob out of Brooklyn.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Rob, out of Brooklyn. What's up, Rob?

[DJ Envy]

What's up, Rob?

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

Nah, I just want to say why I'm mad. I'm mad at Jess. Really?

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Why would I do. What happened, Rob?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She smoked up all the weed.

[Laura Coates]

Shut up.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

Last week, Salsa confuego. I came to your show. You cursed me on the pics. Broke my heart.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Jess, I'm married. She didn't take no pictures. Oh, I thought he said you. I thought it was some New York slang. Yeah, I curved you because if I would have took a picture with you, I would have had to take a picture with everybody. And I wasn't doing meet and greet at salsa conference. I told you all that.

[DJ Envy]

She had to be work in the morning.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

Yeah, that was my chance.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

I'm sorry, but didn't I say I love you, though? She was the one standing by.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

That was the first night. That was on Tuesday. I told you. I. I was like, I'm sorry, but I love you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What about loving him?

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

I love all my fans. Don't play with me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You don't even know him.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

It don't matter. They are the reasons why I'm here. So thank you.

[DJ Envy]

Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need the Vent. Hit us up now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Ray. Ray. Ray. Yo, Charlamagne Envy. What up?

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Are we live?

[DJ Envy]

This is your time to get it off your chest.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

I got an indoor pool, a outdoor pool.

[DJ Envy]

We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. We can get on the phone right now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He'll tell you what it is.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

We live.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

Hello?

[DJ Envy]

Who's this?

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

Good morning.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Good morning. Good morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How are you? What's your name?

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

This is Nicole coming from St. Louis metro area.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, Claudia. St. Louis.

[DJ Envy]

Get it off your chest.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Nicole.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

Yes.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Yes.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

Well, I was calling Cass. Today is Jess's daughter's birthday. First birthday.

[DJ Envy]

Yes.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

And I just wanted to tell her happy birthday. And, yes, I wanted to give you some well wishes. And, you know, being my son is only six, trust me, those. Those times go fast. And I know you have another son, but I just wanted to give you some well wishes today. And I hope that you know that puts a smile on your face.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Yes. Girl, I'm cheesing it here. Thank you so much. I appreciate you.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

You're welcome. And can I please send you Every Other Christmas by Katie Odie? There are some cute similarities in that book that reminds me of you and your daughter.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Oh, you said. What's the name of it?

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

It's called Every Other Christmas.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Every Other Christmas. Okay, thank you.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

Can I send that to you, please?

[DJ Envy]

She wants to send it to you.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

Can I send it to you?

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Absolutely. I was just about to get a. Yes, thank you. That would be great.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm just lying to everybody.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Hold on.

[DJ Envy]

We'll get your address. Hold on. Okay, you can. So we can give you.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Okay, thank you. Thank you. I love you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And then the funny part just even fake typed on the computer. I heard this. 1, 2, 3. You know, all them letters and every other. All I heard was no.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Relax, relax. And so she said she sent it. I was about to. Hello? How you doing?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Good morning, Eddie.

[DJ Envy]

What's up, man? Get off your.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

Good morning, y'. All. Good morning, Jess. Good morning, Uncle Charlotte. Good morning, DJ Envy.

[DJ Envy]

Good morning, brother.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

Happy birthday. Oh, can I just say, happy birthday to.

[DJ Envy]

Today's Eddie's birthday, too. Today's this guy's birthday, too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh. Happy birthday.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Birthday to my daughter. Happy birthday.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, I was laughing at the book. Every Other Christmas. Latino daughter.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Hell, no.

[DJ Envy]

Okay, Eddie, they taking your steam. Eddie, Eddie, hold on.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

I'm sorry, Eddie. Eddie, I'm sorry. All right. Happy birthday, Eddie. Now, you was calling to say something to me. What you say?

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

I was saying happy birthday to Your daughter. And happy birthday to all the other. All the other Leos and whatnot.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

That's right. Thank you, Eddie.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

Of course, for my birthday, if y' all could just, like, follow me on Instagram. And I actually got in to call in about two weeks ago, and I used some of the sound bites to actually make a track. Y' all told me that my. My name sounded like it was My car is gay.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Oh, yes. Y' all remember that? Yeah. What's your last name again?

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

So rear. My DJ name is Hokage.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Oh, yeah. My whole car game.

[DJ Envy]

All right, man.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

Yes, sir. Yeah, I actually turned that into a track and it came out today. If y' all could, like, follow me on Instagram. It's spelled H O K A G E underscore dubstep.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm telling you right now, if it's whack, I'm getting struck down because you didn't ask for permission to use any of our voices.

[DJ Envy]

That's. I hope it's not whack.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

So messed up. Even on his birthday.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

I mean, if you like dubstep, then. I mean, you like it. If not, then, hey, I'll try better.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What is dubstep? I don't know what that is. What is that?

[DJ Envy]

It's a dance.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

Rave music.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh. Like boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

More aggressive and cooler than that now.

[DJ Envy]

More aggressive and cooler. Thank you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I'm gonna check it out now.

[DJ Envy]

Back to what this book said. What did this book say?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Every other Christmas after his parents divorce, a young biracial child spends every other Christmas celebrating the differing traditions between the African American and Colombian sides of his family.

[DJ Envy]

Every other Christmas. One Christmas is your black side, another.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Christmas is Mexican side your Latinos. Like. Yeah. So that's what she said. That's why she said Marley and this young person have similarities. I'm serious. I'm looking at the book right now.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

That is very well. Thank you, ma'.

[Morgan Wood]

Am.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. During the holiday season, he spends with his. With his dad's family in Columbia. And during the other other Christmas, he's with his black family.

[DJ Envy]

Well, that together, ma'.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Am.

[DJ Envy]

So it's not every other Christmas.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

It's every Christmas day together, our house. Every. Every time we're not going.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Is it like half and half?

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

No, we do Christmas.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So it's like. Is it platinum collard greens?

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

No, it's not. No, no. It's all our culture. My culture. You're forgetting he's only half Mexican. His mother is the one that's full blown but you say that his father's black.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Last time I saw Chris, he was like, where the tacos?

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

I don't know why he asked Charlamagne when we went to the GNX at MetLife, yo, he was like, yo, where the tacos at? Yo, like, yo. I'm like, why don't do that? I told you that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He was like, yo, you got a hammer? I was like, get it over your chest.

[DJ Envy]

800-585-1051 now, we got the latest with Lauren coming up. What are we talking about?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes, we're going to talk about Tamar Braxton. She just let us know that she almost died Sunday. She said she pulled up in a pool of blood.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

That is my sister.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, we're going to talk about it. She's okay now, but we going to get into what happened.

[DJ Envy]

All right, we'll get into that. Next is the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

It's DJ Envy.

[DJ Envy]

Jess. Hilarious Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Is that Golden Corral?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, it is.

[Lauren LaRosa]

We about to be sleepy coming up here.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They know y' all young big backs in the making.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You know who I am?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who she said I am. I am young lady up here.

[DJ Envy]

Let's get to the ladies with Lauren.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Lauren becoming a straight thing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She gets them from somebody that knows somebody. She gets the details.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm the homegirl that knows a little.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

About everything and everybody she be having.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The latest on the Latest with Lauren LaRosa. Sometimes you have facts. Sometimes you have details. Sometimes you have a little bit of everything on the Breakfast Club. Talk to me, LL Cool B. Oh.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You supporting black woman this morning. Good morning. Braxton says that she almost died after being found in a pool of blood with. With several injuries. So she posted this to her Instagram story yesterday. She says, I struggle to write this, but everyone keeps calling me. And honestly, I can't even really talk anymore. I'm so weak. I almost died. Sunday, I was found in a pool of blood from my friend with a face injury. As the days go by, the worse it is. I fractured my nose, lost some teeth, and my mobility. The way I look at life right now is totally different. As my health is on the mend, my mental journey begins. Pray for me. For real. I don't even know what happened.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You got to tell us a little bit more than that, Tamar. We all. We all at the age and we hear stories like that. I need to know exactly what happened to see if we can avoid it. You need to tell us what happened.

[DJ Envy]

Was she in a bed when, like, when they found her. And then I was like, how did you get injured?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Literally, she doesn't say. And the only thing she's posted before.

[DJ Envy]

This and after this, found her, and it made it seem like you found in bed.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I was found in a pool of blood from my friend with a face injury. That's all she.

[DJ Envy]

I thought it was. I thought it was.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And there's. There's no more. Like, she didn't say anything else.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Was she on edible?

[Lauren LaRosa]

I. I don't know. I have no idea.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

But this happened over the weekend. But she just posted it yesterday.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah. Maybe it's because she, like, you know, people. She said people were calling her. Maybe people are reaching out to her, but she's not, like, responsive or as responsive as she normally is. So she letting people know.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

So that's why she was getting. Yeah, I'm glad she's okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm definitely glad she's okay. But stories like that just lead to a lot of unnecessary speculation.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So, you know, I mean, I feel like you should release that type of information when you actually have something to tell people.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Like, more details.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Like what happened with. She probably said, look, if I don't know how I'm gonna tell y'. All.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Cuz earlier when we were just in the room talking about it, one of our producers was like, her friend did it to her. Like, where you get that from?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Because people are just like, taking it and making their own stories.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm like, that's not what happened.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Yeah, that sentence. That one sentence when she said, I was found in a pool of blood and a face injury by my friend. So she just pushed the. By my friend and was just like, oh, her friend beat her up because she said she woke up with scratches.

[Lauren LaRosa]

She says, I was not by.

[Laura Coates]

No scratch.

[Lauren LaRosa]

She says from my friend. But I think she means by my friend.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Yeah, like she was found by her friend.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes, that's what I was. Yes. Yes. I mean, look, when Tamar's ready to talk about it, she will. She knows because she talks to us about things too. She welcome to whatever she wants to do, however she wants to do. But yes. People are trying to figure out or just wondering, you know, what happened and of course, happy that she is okay. Yeah.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Sounds like a murder scene.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Healing energy.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How old are Tamar.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Tamar Braxton? Is she the youngest? Let me guess, she like, 40?

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

She's 48. 48. Damn. Okay.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes, 48.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We all around the same age, so it's just like, you know, do get to that age sometimes where you just be randomly falling. Like, how did I get here randomly.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Falling at 48 and end up fall.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

On what y' all going to see? A knife y' all going to see?

[Lauren LaRosa]

I don't mean to laugh at you.

[DJ Envy]

But I don't want to say I don't ran before, but today I ran up and bust my ass. I'm just going to shut my ass up.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Charl, have you actually.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, no. You know what? So funny. I was actually laughing at one of my home girls, cuz we was on vacation. She just randomly fell in the pool. And it was one of them things where like, you could see her falling and she, as she was falling, you. I could see her thinking, damn, I'm falling.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Oh my God, I hope she could. Because he just watched.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, we just watched it and laughed. I mean, it was hysterical.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Jesus.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, hysterical.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

I don't even know how you still got friends.

[DJ Envy]

What else you got?

[Lauren LaRosa]

So we're gonna be out of time a bit, but. So Monique sat down with TS Madison. TS Madison has a podcast, and they talked about a bunch of different things. First of all, did you guys know that T.S. madison was the person who put Lee Daniels and Monique back, like, back together? Remember they had the whole reunion?

[DJ Envy]

I didn't know.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I did not know that either. But yes, TS Madison was the person who made that phone call. And that's why we got Madison right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Putting the man and woman together.

[Lauren LaRosa]

All right, so then they also talked about Tyler Perry, because Monique had some things that she wanted to say on Tyler Perry after the conversation. Kind of get that way. Let's take a listen.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

One of the biggest entertainers in the world is Tyler Perry. And Tyler Perry told a lie on me. And that lie cost me 12 years of my career. And I know that you work for that man, but as I told you before, and I'm gonna say it again, until he fixes it, I will not stop. Because that's how the monster is created. We're too afraid, we're too scared. We're too fearful that you're gonna take something from me. So I'm just not gonna say anything. I'm saying, tyler Perry, you will not do this to another. As long as I can help it, because you told a lie.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Either you'll fix it in life or.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

You'Ll be dealt with in death. But I'm not going nowhere, Oprah. I'm not going anywhere until y' all take accountability and fix it. What does fixing it look like to You. You see what Lee Daniels did? Mm. That man walked out on that stage publicly. See, you publicly shamed me, so now you have to publicly fix it. Tyler Perryl you cost my family millions and millions and millions of dollars. So you want a public apology and you want restitution? Yes. I don't know if Tyler probably gonna be working with T.S. madison anymore.

[DJ Envy]

Well, I do have a question, because I don't remember. It's been so long. What was the initial problem? I don't remember.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Y' all remember. Don't go back.

[DJ Envy]

I just don't remember.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'll explain it to you off air. I think a lot of people know, but basically, they got in a little riff behind he. He had said that she didn't do some things behind him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Now, don't tell Monique business the wrong way now, because I don't remember.

[DJ Envy]

Because she. She keeps saying it like it's to the point now where nobody remembers.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I don't know. People remember.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Yes.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Oh, go ahead. Tell him, Jess.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No. My sweet baby.

[Lauren LaRosa]

She loves you.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

From Baltimore.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I wanted to mention, though, Y' all mentioned T.S. madison working with Tyler Perry. They actually had the conversation because TS Madison brought up how she called Monique because she didn't know Tyler Perry, but she's friends with Monique and said, are you okay with me taking this audition? Monique said, go handle your business. Nobody could play that role better than you. So she went and did it. So Monique wasn't being a hater. She spoke great about Tyler Perry giving her that job, but she's like, when it comes to me and my money, you got to make some things right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And Tyler Perry is not petty like that. He's not going to be mad at T.S. madison because T.S. madison interviewed Monique. Well, good. And that would be silly if he did, because it's like you're not responsible for what somebody says on your platform. I refuse to. I refuse to accept that.

[DJ Envy]

People still get upset, though, all the time, but no, not at all.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah. No, I don't think that that's the issue either, but this is. I want in the next hour because.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I ain't gonna lie. I'd have been paid. Monique, just because. Monique will you down, boy. Monique been on their head for how long?

[DJ Envy]

12 years.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

That Baltimore sister gonna stay on?

[DJ Envy]

I don't even remember. I just know she on his. On their ass, but I just. I can't remember anymore.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Yeah, because it happened so long ago.

[DJ Envy]

It happened so long ago. I just don't remember.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, I was gonna say she. She also mentioned too remember, she had that recorded conversation with them, Tyler Perry. And she.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

That's what she told. She got the voice message.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Tyler Perry was saying he was going to make things right and all the things. So she's waiting for that. That's it.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

It.

[Lauren LaRosa]

But in wrapping this up, next hour, top of the next hour, we're gonna have a conversation about target because their CEO, Brian Cornell, just stepped down after 11 years. And this is all in the midst of the company facing, you know, sales dropping and backlash because of the retreat.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

From D I. I do.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I have shopped at Target.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Yeah, she said I do.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I can't keep up with everything. We supposed to boycott. I'm sorry. My mom be reminding me. She'd be like, stop going to targets.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

But stop going to targets.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

One day you'll support black women.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

She absolutely does support me with the rest of the Breakfast Club listeners because, y', all, Messy Vision is going in. Shorty, listen, I text you yesterday because, yo, I sold out of two of my collections.

[Lauren LaRosa]

What are they wearing today?

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

These are called the OMG purples, okay? And you can get these for 20 off on the website by putting in a promo code. W A K E wake. Cause wake that ass up and buy these glasses.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm gonna be calling you soon.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

MessyVision eyewear.com. no, ain't no time you're gonna be calling me.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You're not going to Turkey Stop.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Lord.

[DJ Envy]

And for people listening, the glasses are not super duper expensive. They're affordable. So you go get your glasses. Absolutely. They're already affordable.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

And it's 20 off extra for the.

[DJ Envy]

There's something special about folks who come through without being asked. Like your co workers surprising you with your favorite coffee just because. Or your friend handing you the aux cord the moment you get into the car. No debate, no fight, just positive vibes. That kind of love. It just hits different. And that's exactly the energy. AT&T is on with their new guarantee. If there's ever a network interruption, AT&T will proactively credit you for a full day of service. No calls, no emails, no jumping through hoops. It's just handled. It's like the universe saying, I got you. Except this time it's not the stars aligning, it's your network. And let's be real, that connection is everything. Whether you're holding down the group chat, checking in on your parents, scrolling TikTok, your network's gotta come through. And if there's a problem, AT&T is on the case. No stress, no drama, just real backup. When it counts credit for fiber downtime lasting 20 minutes or more or wireless downtime lasting 60 minutes or more caused by a single incident impacting 10 or more towers. Restrictions and exclusions apply. See att.com guaranty for full details at and T Connecting changes everything.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

A foot washed up, a shoe with some bones in it. They had no idea who it was.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Most everything was burned up pretty good from the fire that not a whole lot was salvageable.

[Laura Coates]

These are the coldest of cold cases. But everything is about to change.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Every case that is a cold case that has DNA right now in a backlog will be identified in our lifetime.

[Laura Coates]

A small lab in Texas is cracking the code on DNA using new scientific tools. They're finding clues in evidence so tiny you might just miss it.

[DJ Envy]

He never thought he was going to get caught and I just looked at my computer screen. I was just like, ah, gotcha.

[Laura Coates]

On America's Crime Lab, we'll learn about victims and survivors and you'll meet the team behind the scenes at othram, the Houston lab that takes on the most hopeless cases to finally solve the unsolvable. Listen to America's Crime Lab on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Hunter (Host of Hunting for Answers)]

I'm Hunter, host of Hunting for Answers on the Black Effect Podcast Network. Join me every weekday as I share bite sized stories of missing and murdered Black women and girls in America. There are several ways we can all do better at protecting Black women. My contribution is shining a light on our missing sisters and amplifying their disregarded stories. Stories like Tameka Anderson. As she drove toward Galvez, she was in contact with several people talking on the phone as she made her way to what should have been a routine transaction. But Tameka never bought the car and she never returned home that day. One Podcast, one Mission. Save our Girls. Join the search as we explore the chilling cases of missing and murdered Black women and girls. Listen to Hunting for Answers every weekday on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.

[Laura Coates]

Welcome to Pretty Private with ebony, the.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Podcast where silence is broken and stories are set free. I'm Ebonae and every Tuesday I'll be.

[Laura Coates]

Sharing all new anonymous stories that would challenge your perception and give you new.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Insight on the people around you. On Pretty Private, we'll explore the untold.

[Laura Coates]

Experiences of women of color who faced it all.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Childhood trauma, addiction, abuse, incarceration, grief, mental health struggles and more. And found the strength to make it to the other side. My dad was shot and killed in his house. Yes, he was a drug dealer. Yes, he was a confidential informant. But he wasn't shot on a street corner. He wasn't shot in the middle of a drug deal.

[Laura Coates]

He was shot in his house, unarmed.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Pretty Private isn't just a podcast. It's your personal guide for turning storylines into lifelines.

[Laura Coates]

Every Tuesday, make sure you listen to.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Pretty Private from the Black Effect podcast network. Tune in on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite show.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Breakfast Club listeners.

[DJ Envy]

All right, now, when we come back, we got front page news, so don't go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Good morning, everybody.

[DJ Envy]

It's CJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlamagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page news. What's going on, Morgan?

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

All right.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Hey, y'.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

All.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Hey.

[Morgan Wood]

In case you missed it, in Texas, a Democratic lawmaker says she's being illegally confined after refusing to leave the Texas Capitol until the House reconvenes this morning. This comes after Democrats. Democrats left Texas for two weeks to protest Republican redistricting plans. Lawmakers returned on Monday, but State Representative Nicole Collier of Fort Worth refused to sign off on a police escort required to leave the building. She originally said she'll stay in the building until the legislature reconvenes, but is now filing a petition asking a court to allow her to allow her to leave. Collier says she's facing illegal restraint by the government. This comes as Texas House Speaker Dustin Burroughs ordered Democrats at House members who had arrest warrants issued for them as they broke quorum to agree to specific conditions, including having DPS officers escort them as to assure that they returned to the House the next day. Now, Collier says she will not sign off on that escort and she was not allowed to leave the chamber. Let's take a listen to her comments. Why?

[Laura Coates]

Why would I agree to this? Why do I have to continue to.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Be subject to their control?

[Morgan Wood]

And so I've had enough.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Just like the American people have had enough of the Trump takeover and the.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Harmful policies that they've passed in Congress.

[Lauren LaRosa]

This is just one little petty way.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Of showing that they have the upper hand.

[Lauren LaRosa]

But they didn't realize that I'm just as stubborn as they are and I'm refusing to back down.

[Morgan Wood]

Yeah. So after the chamber, after being in the chamber for over 30 hours, former Vice President Kamala Harris called Representative Collier and here's what she had to say.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Say in part, you really are inspiring so many people. And I just want you to know.

[Lauren LaRosa]

That you are among those who history will reveal to have been heroes of this moment.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

So you just stay strong and do.

[Lauren LaRosa]

What you are doing. You have the right instinct. You are talented, and you are principled. Oh, yes, ma'.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

Am.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Thank you so much. I. I can't tell you how much this means. Means to me and the community that I represent that you care.

[Morgan Wood]

So, unfortunately, protesters who gathered at the Texas Capitol building had to be evacuated following a shooting threat that took place yesterday evening. Now, Texas Department of Public Safety says the evacuation was triggered around 6.30pm after someone on social media called on protesters to take action by shooting and killing those at the Capitol who won't let Democrats leave without a police escort.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So how do you detain somebody without authority? Like, isn't. Isn't that some type of form of kidnapping? Like, you know, she didn't commit a crime? Like, you know, how do you do that? How was that legal?

[Morgan Wood]

They. I'm not sure. You know, the House speaker and the governor, they've issued those orders to basically say that these Democrats need to be arrested when they come back. And, you know, now that she's come back, she's decided, hey, you're not going to arrest me either. You're not going to take me into any kind of police custody. I should be able to leave and go home.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Home.

[Morgan Wood]

And so. And in an additional protest, she's decided, you know, hey, I'm just gonna sit here in the State House. So I'm.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Now, hold on now. Is she sitting? Maybe I'm confused about the story. I thought she wasn't there willingly. I thought that they were keeping her.

[Morgan Wood]

It initially started as her just demanding that she's not gonna leave because she didn't want to sign off on having that police escort. There was a police escort to basically say, hey, if you leave the. The Capitol, you know, we want to make sure that you come back and you're not going to flee again. So you need to sign off on a permission slip to have a police escort. Now she's basically saying, I'm not signing that permission slip. And if y'.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

All.

[Morgan Wood]

And they're saying, well, if you leave, we're going to arrest you. And she's saying, well, it's fine. I just won't leave.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, see, I thought she was told she could not leave the capital without risking.

[Morgan Wood]

Well, now she's. She's demanding because she feels like, you know, hey, I've been here over 30 hours.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

And.

[Morgan Wood]

And then. So now she's done. You know, she's filed a petition for that, for sure.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what the. That's what her alleging illegal confinement would be. The fact that they're not allowing.

[DJ Envy]

Allow her to leave.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, to leave. I thought. I thought that they told her. You cannot leave the capital without risking arrest.

[Morgan Wood]

Yes, that is essentially what it is. You cannot leave the Capitol without signing this. Permission slipped or you will be arrested. And she is. She's not left. So that's how I understand it to be. What. What's taking place in that incident.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

President.

[Morgan Wood]

So let's switch gears to Baltimore. Baltimore Mayor Brandon Scott is sharing a racist voicemail that he received back in July. Now, the caller said Scott, or he called Scott the N word multiple times and dropped multiple ex. Expletives as well. Now Mayor Scott said he's really. He really thinks it's time for folks to hear the kind of hatred and vitriol that still exists in the world today. Let's take a listen to some of that call. And it is hard to listen to and there is. Is some expletives. So just keep that in mind.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

Yeah. This message is for Brandon Scott, the wannabe thug ass gangster who pretends to be the mayor of Baltimore City. How about you stop making Baltimore a place for worthless piece of worthless N like you who just shoot each other and sell drugs. How about you do your damn job?

[Morgan Wood]

Yeah, so, Mayor Scott.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Yeah, you know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. I don't like my racism with all that sassy. Too sassy. You know what I mean?

[Morgan Wood]

How do you like your racism?

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Hold on, what do you mean?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I like it. I like it straight. Like, you know, I'm gonna kill you, want to see you. You know what I mean? Hardcore. All you'll do is shoot each other and sell drugs. Okay, okay.

[Morgan Wood]

Responded to the call and went on to say that the messages mean that he's doing his job well and he's never going to be afraid of being a proud black man. Hey, Baltimore. So let's take to Baltimore Mayor Brandon Scott's response to this racist caller.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

There's a lot to unpack there. Obviously this isn't the first time I've been called. It won't be the last. In fact, if I go a week without being called the N word. An email, text message, direct message, voicemail, whatever. I feel like I'm not doing my job because when they do that, they.

[DJ Envy]

Actually are expounding upon what we're supposed to do, making people who think like.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That idiot on the other line of.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

That phone be uncomfortable.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because now we're representing all people and.

[DJ Envy]

Pushing and not being afraid to be a proud black man. Man, which I am never going to.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Be afraid to be a proud black man. And yes, we're making Baltimore City better.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

For black people because this is the birthplace of redlining. I am investing into neighborhoods like the.

[DJ Envy]

One that I grew up in that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Was disinvested in on purpose. Salute the mayor. Salute the mayor. Brandon Scott dropping the foos bombs for Mayor Brandon Scott. He's doing a fantastic job. Baltimore's violent crime rate has hit an all time low and it's because he's actually taking those resources. That's right. He's getting resources, you know, from, from, from the Governor Westmore more and putting those resources where they need to be because he's somebody who's from the community so he understands what the community actually needs.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Both of them are from the community.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yep.

[Morgan Wood]

That's your front page news. I'm Morgan Wood. Follow me on socials at Morgan Media. And for more news coverage, make sure you're following at Black Information Network. Download the free iHeartRadio app and visit [e-mail].

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Thank you.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Thank you.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

All right, Morgan.

[DJ Envy]

Now when we come back, CNN's chief legal analyst and anchor of the Laura Coates Live will be joining us. Laura Coates, don't go any man there, so don't go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

It's TJ Envy.

[DJ Envy]

Jess. Hilarious Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. La Rose is here as well and we got a special guest in the building.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, indeed, we have Laura Coates. Welcome.

[Laura Coates]

Hey, thank you. Happy to be here, y'.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

All.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, you wake up Laura, what's going to go off at midnight, right?

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

I don't.

[Laura Coates]

I go up midnight. I go to bed probably by 2am okay if I start six.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wow.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Nice.

[Laura Coates]

I got, I have babies. I call them baby because that's why I have baby weight. So it's 11 and 12 year olds, okay? Therefore I'm up with them getting them ready or trying to or, you know, piddling them like an old person trying to figure out how to start my day. But I can't sleep long any longer. I can't.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It just ended because. Is it because your brain is always wired to be a part of like the news cycle?

[Laura Coates]

I'm constantly thinking, like last night, I think I got an hour and a half asleep because my mind could not shut. You couldn't. You can't really come down because you. For me, I'm always navigating minefields. You all know how it is. And so when you're constantly sort of being your own champion, then obviously trying to educate and inform, your mind can't shut off very well. And so I'm always battling with how to do my go to bed routine. I mean, I'll do, like, the bath. I'll watch some Golden Girls, but it still takes some time.

[DJ Envy]

You take naps at least?

[Laura Coates]

I do.

[DJ Envy]

No, I feel like naps is what keeps me alive.

[Laura Coates]

Oh, my God. If I. If you told me right now you have an hour, I'd be knocked out right now. Like, I can do that quick.

[DJ Envy]

I'm like, wait. I can fall asleep immediately.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Like, yes, they wait right up and ready to go.

[Laura Coates]

I have not seen one of those safety things on the plane in, like, years.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Damn. You're asleep before they even do that.

[Laura Coates]

I haven't had a pretzel in a decade. No Sprite. With or without ice? Doesn't matter. I just. I just. I can't have it. I can't help it. I do it.

[Lauren LaRosa]

How you turn it off and on with your kids, though? Cause, like, sometimes they just want mom that's just about to chill. We want to go to the beach, whatever.

[Laura Coates]

My kids don't care at all about the work.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

They.

[Laura Coates]

For me, I'm very intentional because I wanted to be a mom. I really wanted to be a mother, and I wanted to be their mother in particular. And so I have to be present. And really, if you don't sort of leave work. When I'm not working, my mind might be racing, but if I'm with my babies or with my man, that's it. Like, I'm with them. That's all there is to it. And so they try to come with me a lot, though. That's how I try to incorporate. My daughter comes every Friday night to the show because my producer, she's 11. She's taller than me. Now, my son, he plays basketball, and so he's always. I'm always trying to be with him when he's on the.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Taller than you?

[Laura Coates]

I'm five' three and a half.

[DJ Envy]

Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was asking 11. Oh, wow, wow, wow, wow.

[Laura Coates]

My. My nickname as a kid was Baby Huey. I'm. I'm the tallest baby, so I had to have a strong ego to counteract that because my mom is four' eleven. My dad's five' four. And they're like, how you get so big?

[Lauren LaRosa]

And I'm like, I'm five' three and a half.

[Laura Coates]

Half, but that half the half.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So as a former Federal prosecutor. How do you balance explaining the law for everyday viewers without losing the complexity of what law is?

[Laura Coates]

I think you don't understand something unless you can explain it to a child. Right, you have. I mean there's a phrase and when I was in trials, and I did a lot of trials, it was never use a twenty dollar word when a quarter word will do.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Right.

[Laura Coates]

You want to talk to people and meet them where they are. Not because they know less intellectually because. Or they're not as smart, but because you and I would never sit here and say the door was a jar open like I gave chase. You mean you ran somewhere because you want people to understand what's happening. And I think there's an elitism with vocabulary where people want to show that they're smart to distance themselves from you, to make sure you see them above you and that they can no longer participate in the system. And the longer people feel like, well, I, I don't get it. So therefore I hands off their reflexes. Well, I don't care about that. I don't. It's rigged. It's a whole game of the system. That was the point. They want people to not participate, they want people not to understand. And we have an elitism about the law that we see right now in real terms are hurting the nation because the more people are like politics. I don't get, I don't get that. What's posse coma. What? I don't get it, Never mind, whatever. Then you don't check in and you're not actually maintaining the system and you become a part of your own demise. And so for me, it was easy to make sure that, look, if I want to understand something, I have to really distill it down so that I can explain it in a two minute elevator, in a 30 second clip down the street, wherever I am to my kids, because they're also who's watching me. And when I was, during the whole Covid, during the pandemic, I had a studio in my home and I remember I was covering the George Floyd murder trial, which I'm clear, not the George Floyd trial, that's Derek Chauvin trial, the George Floyd murder trial. And my kids were on the floor. Literally, it was homeschool. Yeah, don't get me started. They're sitting there watching me explain something. And the why, the why was always the hardest question. Like I could explain the Constitution, I can recite the amendments, I can explain the different case law, but the hardest question to answer, especially when you have your babies, Looking at you. Why?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know who told me that? Larry King.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Really?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Larry King said, God bless the dead. Larry King said. He said Charlamagne. The toughest question you can ask a person is why?

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Why?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because people really don't ever think about the why. Usually they have their talking points or they have their things that they've been taught, but they've never actually thought about the why of something.

[Laura Coates]

And it makes you think ahead in the future and explain the past simultaneously. Because the why requires you to explain the way it was, how you've let it be, and also how you could change it. Because in that one three letter word, you're being challenged. It's almost like the real question is why did you let that happen? Or why is it still that way? Or why haven't we changed it? And you have to think about all those things. And you know, I one thing, I love my job, what I'm doing is because for me, I would have talked anyway, right? I would have tried to explain anyway. I have a real desire to democratize information because I can't stand elitism and I can't stand people feeling like they don't have a voice because someone took it away. But that why question, man, when it comes to my kids, like my son the other day asked me me a question about why the National Guard was there, people were driving by, why and why there. I thought this is gonna take a lot to unload. But you know, I try not to shy away from my kids when they ask a question, because when they're asking it, they're ready to receive the information. Even though sometimes, you know, it breaks my heart, I think of my kids childhood. Whether this is right or wrong, you guys, I think of it like a museum, right? And there are museum floors and wings and I'm navigating one area, I'm like, okay, it's time to go to this wing. And all of a sudden something happens and I'm on the third floor trying to explain the exhibit in front of me, trying to make sure they realize what to do or what not to do. And I'm not always prepared in those moments. And so I just try to be very confessional about what I do and do not know and try to find answers.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So what is the why to why? The national guarded there? Because I'm sure there's a letter of a law. Yeah, letter of a law. Letter of the law answer. Yeah, but what's the why?

[Laura Coates]

Well, the why they're saying they're there is because of the crime rate in D.C. and the only way they believe they can change it is to have the presence of the National Guard to try to deter crime or to supplement what the cops are doing. What the other reason is legally is that they have the ability to do so in Washington, D.C. it's not a, it's not a state state, it's not a territory. And the President of the United States has a lot, a lot, a lot of power there. So much so that other governors and other hits are thinking to themselves, well, how can we stop him from having our own states? But the reality is he has power to do so for a certain amount of time, 30 days. If there is an emergency situation, they can do it. He wants to delay it or prolong it longer than that. But the reason, the reason they're probably having it in reality is because politically, it is advantageous to show that you are tough on crime. And Democrats have a very difficult road ahead. Trying to, on the one hand, explain the problems of a police state and the presence of the National Guard, a la civil rights era, with people coming into your towns and also using data to say, no, no, I don't know how you feel, but here's a number. Does this number make you feel better? Here's a number, right? This is better. And they're trying to capitalize on that as Republicans.

[DJ Envy]

We're still kicking it with CNN's chief legal analyst and anchor of Laura Coates Live. Laura Coates.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Lauren, when you look at trials, like, you did a lot of coverage on the Diddy trial.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Yeah. So did you, sis.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, thanks for having me. But from the beginning, right, you were. There were times where you did make predictions or just like, follow the story as it went. Was there any time where you flat out were like, this is ridiculous, they're overcharging him. And you wanted to say that because couldn't.

[Laura Coates]

I did say it, and I could. But you're right to question the ability to be as vocal and as forthright, picking an anchor position. Right. When I was a just being a contributor, I had a different role, Right. Because then I could be a little bit more flexible. I'm still very honest and candid, but I have to moderate a conversation where I can't answer every question that I'm asking other people. So sometimes I agree with the person who's answering it. I don't agree with the person who's answering. I try to say that. But one thing that was really bothering me about that trial in particular is, and you can set aside, frankly, all the backstory of violence? That's hard to even say because there's a huge backstory of violence there.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And y' all broke the video.

[Laura Coates]

We broke the video, but they didn't charge that. And I think what happened in that case is it's that prosecutorial discretion that is very difficult to navigate. On the one hand, just because you can do something, should you. So one of the issues of having that case is that. Is that the new standard to bring RICO for that type of case, were there other matters to bring or other cases to bring other charges? And should we have caught it much sooner? Why wasn't the original case brought? Why were the violence cases not brought sooner? And what messages that send in the long run to victims that you try to bring in and tell them? Because it's a grind. I want you to testify. It's worth it. It, please. You're arguing not for yourself, but the next person down the line doesn't want to be victimized. You try to convince that person to come forward. Well, now you wonder, if a very public trial and the person comes forward and tells the most intimate, horrific details of their life, how much harder is it now for the prosecutor to come back and say, no, no, forget what you saw. You should still go forward because it will still matter. Theoretically, in the end, she's a harder case. And so even if that person doesn't want to go forward, there's a callousness you have to have. It says, well, I'm not here for you. I'm thinking about the next person who does not want it to be them.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You were an Assistant U.S. attorney, U.S. attorney when you saw that, because, remember, they made a big deal about it being all white women that were prosecuting. Did you feel like race played a card?

[Laura Coates]

I think that race had a very big part in the assessment of this trial in the court of public opinion, because people thought, why this particular person? Is it because this is a black man who's achieved a certain level of income? Is this the hearkening back to the highfalutin Negro syndrome that they would try to put on the man act use in terms of how that was looked at? Remember, that was the case involving, you know, Jack Johnson, who was a boxer, who was convicted of it for having had the audacity to date a white woman who happened to also be a prostitute at one time and married somebody else as well. So I wonder if that was a part of how people perceived it. But there is always going to be with the messenger for a jury, how condescending you might appear how judgmental you might come across. And there were certainly elements where I found myself wondering, watching the jury and watching the presentation of evidence, how did that read? For example, when someone would say something.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, he took the. And rubbed it on his nipples.

[Laura Coates]

Right. As an example. Yes.

[DJ Envy]

Out of all the things that's.

[Laura Coates]

Out of all that came to mind, but, you know, or that might be a comment. And the person was like, well, who would ever do that? That's just. And just very sort of disgusted by it. Now you could be disgusted by it. Maybe it's your thing as well. The problem is in this jury, they weren't asked that question. I don't know in this jury of 12 or however many people, how many of you might get off on that, that. Or how many of you might feel as though, well, you shouldn't be in my bedroom, so don't judge that.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

That.

[Laura Coates]

Why are we here about that? And so you always run the risk of coming across as, you know, whether actually as a black prosecutor or not, as a Karen, as somebody who is. Who knows better than you and is going to elevate it to the authorities.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wow.

[DJ Envy]

You think they got it right, the jury?

[Laura Coates]

You know, based on the presentation of evidence, there was no other result. I was surprised that so many people who weren't inside the courtroom every day and weren't watching it and maybe were reading transcript thought, there's no way he can't be crypto Rico. And I thought, well, based on what's been presented, you are making people connect so many dots. Enrico is complex, you guys, right? You got to bridge all these gaps. And when they didn't call people like the right hand men and women of Diddy, I wondered if the jurors thought, well, I've heard a lot about these people. Why am I not seeing any of them?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why did a one man regal.

[Laura Coates]

Yeah, why is that? And the thing is, you could. Technically, one person for conspiracy is enough. But again, back to your question about how fairness operates and how the law people have so many questions about how can that be and is that fair? And in a way, we all become toward the 13th juror and we have our minds going, all right, in the grand scheme of things, why are you so focused on this? Why this right or wrong? That's their question.

[DJ Envy]

So what he was charged with, right? Do you think he should have got a bond or do you think that he should still be sitting there now? Because when they did research, they said anybody with this type of charge usually gets a slap on the wrist. Community service, weekend in jail. But it seems like for fed charges.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I ain't never heard no community service for no fair charges.

[Laura Coates]

Well, for prostitution, you mean to leave pay until you sentence in October, Right. So normally if it's a very violent crime, you were held until you're sentenced because the expectation is you're going to be sentenced, so why not just don't get used to being out.

[DJ Envy]

But it wasn't violent, right, when he was charged.

[Laura Coates]

And that's important. The point you raised, because the, what the, the conviction was not a crime of violence. It didn't even require coercion like say sex trafficking did. But because the lawyers argued as a given, yeah, he was violent, you didn't charge him with that. The judge said, well, this could qualify under the umbrella of the types of matters that are violent by your own admission, counsel.

[DJ Envy]

Even though he wasn't charged.

[Laura Coates]

Even though he wasn't charged. Now that why this is why there's a fairness issue here is because they tell the jury at the beginning the attorney's arguments and things, they're not evidence. You cannot consider what the attorney says. Right, but the judge did, the judge considered the fact. He said, well, he's, yes, he's, he was violent. Yes, that happened in the hotel lobby or the hotel hallway. That absolutely happened. But he can, he can actually look at those things to hold the person longer. Although I do wonder if in holding him now, it makes the judge appear that much more objectively harsh. Therefore, when he sentences, if it's less than what the prosecution wants, you can't accuse him of going light and soft on Diddy.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What do you think he's gonna get? As a former federal prosecutor, I would.

[Laura Coates]

Be surprised if it went beyond two or three years with one year being credited to him. Time, his time already in. The reason for that is, although you have 10 years per charge, normally you wouldn't run those consecutively, like where that's, you know, back to, back up to 20. Because the nature of the crime and because he's a first time convicted offender in this context, sentencing guidelines have kind of a chart that says, you know, this crime gives you this point, this other person gives this point. And now I have a little category now you're over here and you're in this range. The judge can still say less or more, but it would be in line with other cases if it was in the lower end. The prosecution, though, they want, want their bone and their dogs about it because they have to be for the reasons of going forward and thinking we put these resources in. We feel that he's violent and that there should have been longer and more. So they're going to go hard. But the judge, I think will be in his right judicial mind if he's in the same range that Diddy has based on not being a prior offender.

[DJ Envy]

We're still kicking it with CNN's chief legal analyst and anchor of Laura Coates Live.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Laura Coates, Charlamagne, you were a federal prosecutor in the civil rights division of the U.S. department of justice during the Bush and Obama administration. What I wanted to ask you is, you know, we hear people say things like Donald Trump is taking us back. He's, you know, all these executive orders have, you know, repealed these rights and he's taking us back to this time. People come up here and ask like, what year we think we living in. I'm like, we're in 2025. Like. But I want to ask you simply to the people that are listening, what rights are being stripped away from us right now?

[Laura Coates]

Number one, voting. Okay, Voting. It's almost like you think about your health. If your health fails, nothing else matters. You know, if voting goes away, almost nothing else you want to argue about is, is important enough to counteract that. Because if you don't have a say, then you cannot speak later in a way that's actually going to fall on the right ears. And voting does that. And so the rolling back of rights, when I was in the civil rights division, the voting section, we still had section five, which is the formula you use to determine whether in an area of the country that traditionally violated civil rights laws or had skewed voting rights and laws that impacted black people, period. There's a formula you'd use to figure out how you, whether that person, that jurisdiction was qualified to have to ask for permission for any change they wanted to make. When I was there, that was still there. That's gone. The formula's gone because the Supreme Court said and it's outdated. You know, we're in this sort of a post racial world. We've had a black president now, so the same rules don't apply. So therefore Congress think of a new formula and while you take your sweet time, everything goes astray. Well, that was the entryway point of why everything else is starting to fail in terms of section 2, which is the race based and gerrymandering aspects of it. So that's the number one thing that people are rolling back voting. Number two, don't sleep on the Fourth Amendment, reasonable search and seizures and stops anytime you Hear about a police brutality case of a driver or someone in their home, wherever it is, talking about the Fourth Amendment, what right the officer has to stop you, question you, touch you, arrest you, all those things. The more power you give officers without having to substantiate that power based on probable cause or the Constitution or the more you live in a place where that goes away. So, for example, with the national guard or the FBI that's present in Washington D.C. where I am, the question is whether they're going to abide by the same principles under the Fourth Amendment. The standard right now is it's only unreasonable if a reasonable officer would feel it's unreasonable. Not whether you think it's reasonable, not whether you or you or you, whether a reasonable officer would think so. So which incentivizes people to say, well, I'm not going to call out my fellow officer because it could come back to haunt me. So I'm going to have sort of a, yeah, that's reasonable, kick him in the head. I mean, I can see why that could happen. Shot him accidentally. Oh, well, you know, I can see what would happen. And they become the reasonable standard. So that's what the cops know. There's already that issue now. You add the National Guard, you add.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

In the a foot washed up, a shoe with some bones in it. They had no idea who it was.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Most everything was burned up pretty good from the fire that not a whole lot was salvageable.

[Laura Coates]

These are the coldest of cold cases. But everything is about to change.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Every case that is a cold case that has DNA right now in a backlog will be identified in our lifetime.

[Laura Coates]

A small lab in Texas is cracking the code on DNA using new scientific tools. They're finding clues in evidence so tiny you might just miss.

[DJ Envy]

He never thought he was going to get caught and I just looked at my computer screen, I was just like, ah, gotcha.

[Laura Coates]

On America's Crime Lab, we'll learn about victims and survivors and you'll meet the team behind the scenes at othram, the Houston lab that takes on the most hopeless cases to finally solve the unsolvable. Listen to America's Crime Lab on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast podcasts.

[Hunter (Host of Hunting for Answers)]

I'm Hunter, host of Hunting for Answers on the Black Effect Podcast Network. Join me every weekday as I share bite sized stories of missing and murdered black women and girls in America. There are several ways we can all do better at protecting black women. My contribution is shining a light on our missing sisters and amplifying their disregarded stories. Stories like Tamika Anderson. As she drove toward Galvez, she was in contact with several people talking on the phone as she made her way to what should have been a routine transaction. But Tameka never bought the car, and she never returned home that day. One podcast, one Mission Save our Girls. Join the search as we explore the chilling cases of missing and murdered Black women and girls. Listen to Hunting for Answers every weekday on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Laura Coates]

Welcome to Pretty Private with ebony, the podcast where silence is broken and stories are set free. I'm Ebonae, and every Tuesday I'll be sharing all new anonymous stories that would challenge your perceptions and give you new.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Insight on the people around you. On Pretty Private, we'll explore the untold.

[Laura Coates]

Experiences of women of color who faced it all.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Childhood trauma, addiction, abuse, incarceration, grief, mental health struggles and more. And found the strength to make it to the other side. My dad was shot and killed in his house. Yes, he was a drug dealer. Yes, he was a confidential informant. But he wasn't shot on a street corner. He wasn't shot in the middle of a drug deal.

[Laura Coates]

He was shot in his house, unarmed.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Pretty Private isn't just a podcast. It's your personal guide for turning storylines into lifelines.

[Laura Coates]

Every Tuesday, make sure you listen to.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Pretty Private from the Black Effect Podcast Network. Tune in on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

So what happened at Chappaquiddick?

[Laura Coates]

Well, it really depends on who you talk to.

[DJ Envy]

There are many versions of what happened.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

In 1960 when a young Ted Kennedy.

[DJ Envy]

Drove a car into a pond and.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Left a woman behind to drown.

[Laura Coates]

There's a famous headline, I think, in.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

The New York Daily News.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It's Teddy Escapes, Blonde Drowns. And in a strange way, right, that.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Sort of tells you the story really.

[Laura Coates]

Became about Ted's political future, Ted's political hopes.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Will Ted become president?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Chappaquiddick is a story of a tragic death and how the Kennedy machine took control.

[Laura Coates]

And he's not the only Kennedy to survive a scandal.

[DJ Envy]

The Kennedys have lived through disgrace, affairs.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Violence, you name it. So is there a curse?

[DJ Envy]

Every week we go behind the headlines.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And beyond the drama of America's royal family.

[Laura Coates]

Listen to United States of Kennedy on.

[Hunter (Host of Hunting for Answers)]

The iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever.

[Laura Coates]

You get your podcast. FBI, who, they don't do average traffic stops even.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They don't even go equipped to do that kind of work if they're not.

[Laura Coates]

They'Re not also not necessarily used to adhering to the same standards because the nature of their work is so much more of an emergency that they have to be a little bit more aggressive at times, they say. So now trying to balance all that out means that the more accepted it becomes that law enforcement has power, the less you have to say, wait, I have my rights. You can't do that to me. More becomes laughed at. So I think those are two areas to me that are the most problematic.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I got the two. Well, one question I can put in one. So when you didn't get jeopardy, right, you kept your response to how you felt very diplomatic. But a lot of people feel like you weren't in the thought even though he said you should be because you were a black woman. Did you feel like it was a race thing of the reason why you weren't even considered as like in the guest hosting slot or just called in even tryout?

[Laura Coates]

I thought it was bull that I wasn't asked to try out. I thought it was something that was the machinations behind the scenes where people decide who their heroes and celebrities ought to be and merit didn't matter. And that's how I honestly feel about it. I feel like, I mean, so whether it was a race, I don't know as much as it was a race thing, as much as it wasn't a youth thing thing. Now who I am is a black woman. So if it's me, then it was that I. I was always very resentful of it, and I still am because I think it'd be much easier to have a job where the answers are already in front of me, like on Jeopardy. Anything else. But as I see how they say everyone's journey is their journey. For me, I was honored that he was specific. He was kind. When I reached out to thank him, I looked. I was grateful to have a chance to get to know him a little bit during that. But the fact that it wasn't Alex Trebek's call, who'd replace him, told me I have to examine power differently.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Right.

[Laura Coates]

And I have to examine who really is in control very differently. And in many ways, I'm happy that it happened because I approach all my negotiations and business dealings, that if my name's on something, it belongs to me and that includes the agency to do with it what I want. And if I had gotten it just because someone's, oh, I think it'd be her, it's great re her, I might not have approached the same way. And I still feel some kind of way about it.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Before he died, he had said that she's one of the people that should be considered.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, dope.

[Lauren LaRosa]

But we never even got to see her be considered.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Wow.

[Laura Coates]

But I was told, I was told when I would, when I had, when.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I spoke to her.

[Laura Coates]

Maybe I'm telling too much information. When I did try to fight for it, they said, well, maybe, well, a particular person whose name I can't even recall. He's that irrelevant to me now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nah, call that.

[Laura Coates]

I can't, I can't. I honestly can't remember his name.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You don't remember?

[Laura Coates]

I can't remember his name, but I remember he was like, but you know what? If you ever, you can be my assistant on a podcast. No, to research on a podcast. I was like, I'll be your assistant to research on the podcast. Who do you think you're talking to? Not me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What game show did Alex see you host that? He.

[Laura Coates]

I hadn't. He, he watched me on cnn.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Wow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wow.

[Laura Coates]

And he also, I did radio. I did SiriusXM for a long time. And so he would, he was a radio guy himself when he first started out. And so he said that he respected the, the work that I did and, and the, the mind and thought it would be a beautiful match. Wow, that was really cool.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Did that help in how you navigated because people started having a conversation about you and Caitlyn Collins when people felt like you were shorted in that situation with getting a full time income role?

[Laura Coates]

Well, I had the anchor roll. You mean I didn't have the 9 o' clock hours, you mean? Okay. You know, I think people have a tendency to, to always ask, you know, and why her and not this person? And they assume that, that there is beef. But I, I really, I believe that I am, I'm where I'm supposed to be in this moment and let everyone climb the way they want to climb. Let people enjoy the fruits of their labor because I enjoy mine. But the work is so far from being done. So I think you know, where I am and where I'll end up are two different things.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

My last question, you know, you're a mother, you're a wife, you know, former prosecutor on cnn. When do you have time to be this fun ratchet lord co. I keep hearing about everybody that, everybody that I know that hung out with you and kicked it with you, they got, they see something else.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

That's crazy. He got you up here to call.

[Laura Coates]

Out your red trouble.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm just Saying especially I saw people come back from the VI and they.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Was like, yo, Laura, Coach, though that's rati is crazy.

[Laura Coates]

I hope I'm the same person, but you have me talking about the constitution here. But I mean, really, I make time for something. I make time for. For love and joy.

[DJ Envy]

Because you started a whole interview. But that's like, ah, well.

[Laura Coates]

No, you know what? I gotta be who I can be, and I. I want there to be a through line. You know, the best advice I ever got was from Steve Harvey, who said to me, you know, Lara, I am the same person no matter where you see me, period. And I hope that that's me just maybe a little bit different outfit, different hair, different ponytail, different heel color, different lipstick, different eyeliner, but I'm the same person. It's just that I would never want to try to be who I was not. But every circumstance does not call for my ratchetness.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Word. Word.

[Laura Coates]

Some really do. And sometimes I'm like, oh, you think this is not. Oh, let me take my earrings off a second. Hold on a second.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Hold on, hold on one second.

[Laura Coates]

Hold on one second, one second. I'm not the one or the two.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

I love it. Thank you guys.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And don't be a stranger, man. Come up on us like, there's things that we can, you know.

[Laura Coates]

Thank you.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Thank you for teaching me some things.

[Laura Coates]

Thank you.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Appreciate that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because you said something earlier, you talked about armchair attorneys, and I feel like we have a lot of. A lot of those. And I don't know if people are becoming more legally literate or getting worse than understanding the Constitution and. All right, so we need people like.

[Laura Coates]

Well, I appreciate that, and I'm honored to be here, and I respect you all so much. Thank you for. For letting me come.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Thank you so much.

[DJ Envy]

Laura Coates, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I like Laura Coates, man.

[DJ Envy]

That's your people's. Like, that's.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

That's your guy, yo.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

First of all, you need to think about what I just said. Listen, because I said I like Laura, coach. That's your people.

[DJ Envy]

No, she was talking.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I know that, but you don't listen.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Everybody.

[DJ Envy]

Blow your nose, everybody. All right, let's get to the latest for Laura.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Lauren be coming a straight F. She.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Gets them from somebody that knows somebody, some dudes, details.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm the home girl that knows a.

[Laura Coates]

Little bit about everything.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She be having the latest on.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

The.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Latest with Lauren LaRosa. Sometimes you have facts, sometimes you have details. Sometimes you have a little bit of everything. Oh, it's the latest on the Breakfast Club. Talk to me, L.L. kube.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Hey, good morning. So Target CEO, his name is Brian Cornell. He is stepping down after 11 years. So this story is currently breaking. So this is in the midst of all of the. Like, they've been reporting that sales have been dropping and of course, they've been having a lot of backlash because they rolled back some of their DEI initiatives.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

I'm getting out of here.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I have shopped at Target recently. I'm sorry.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

You're not sorry.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Sorry, Mom, I am.

[DJ Envy]

No, you're not. Because you wouldn't do it again.

[Lauren LaRosa]

This departure was widely expected, according to cnn. And CNN is also reporting that people feel like someone from outside of the company should come in and step in as a CEO because they'll have a better grasp. Grasp on, you know, just what's happening in the world and why Target is being affected by its customers and like all the things. But There is a COO. He's been at the company for 20 years. He'll be replacing Cornell on February 1, 2026.

[DJ Envy]

Do we know why he's leaving? Is it because everything that's going on. Does he have another job or is it just his time? Do we know?

[Lauren LaRosa]

I bet you this just says that he is stepping down and that the story is still breaking and that his departure was widely expected. But I.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

Okay.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Look into it more for you.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Say, man, I ain't got time for these to be boycotting outside the stores all the time, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And they can't even do what. You know, a lot of these companies doing situations like this go out and hire, you know, a minority.

[DJ Envy]

Didn't they try to hire Kai and.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Do be the CEO.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why would they hire K not to be the CEO at all?

[DJ Envy]

Oh, you mean. I thought you mean hire. I thought you mean hire people to. To get people to.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's when I talk to crazy. You know what I'm saying? That's your people, y'.

[Laura Coates]

All.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's your people.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

He is my. So what?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Where Logan at to slam at you when he need him? Went back to school.

[DJ Envy]

Continue on.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

What else?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Lord, Logan ain't slam you enough this summer? Maybe he slam you too much.

[DJ Envy]

How about I come over there and slam you?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I bet you won't he want to.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Well, yes. So that is happening.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But no.

[DJ Envy]

Did he just come out of nowhere? Go ahead, continue.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn. He just came out of nowhere. You didn't know so you didn't realize.

[Lauren LaRosa]

That you doing that little thing.

[DJ Envy]

Go ahead, continue, Laura. He just never stops.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Pause.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Oh, My God, the bro pants up here be so cute and so crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Y' all don't pay attention to detail. Every symptom in his Starbucks. And then he goes. He jumps and goes, oh. Then he just came out of nowhere.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Well, in other news. In other news, speaking of bros. So Fat Joe and Jadakiss sat down on their podcast.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Love their podcast.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Joe and Jada. Yes. And they had a conversation about snitches in hip hop. Because Fat Joe said he actually loved Gunna's album. Let's take a listen.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

My thing is now you got some.

[DJ Envy]

Guys that are the hottest guys in the game. Rats. Like, I get a phone call for somebody. He says, yo, man, you gotta check this album out. And I get on the plane, I listen to this album. This album was so good. I was so guilty of this. I listened to this album.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I said, didn't know. He talking about gunning throw the flag rag.

[DJ Envy]

Cause we said we wasn't mentioning names.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, that was fire. It's a million rats that you like his album.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Nah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You just said you enjoyed it and then said, nah.

[DJ Envy]

No, I'm not saying that. What I am saying.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So where is. You don't care no more Hip hop? You could rap. No, I'm asking. But what if you do? You got the number one album, right?

[DJ Envy]

He just said the gun in the car wasn't his. There's only one other person in the car with him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What? You broke my heart. It's a good album. The album is good. I mean, personally, I. I could care less, you know, about gonna be in a rat or whatever they say. Like, most your music is.

[DJ Envy]

Most people don't care.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It don't matter. Like, if you throw on a bop, a bop, gonna bop. Okay. I could care less what he did in the courtroom, by the way. I understand the people who do care, right? But I'm just a regular consumer. I could care less.

[DJ Envy]

Most of these kids, though, most of.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Y' all listen album.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, I have not.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You should. I've been on that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I've been on that jit. I can't. I haven't got the gun yet.

[Lauren LaRosa]

But when you get there, you're gonna enjoy it. Yeah, he actually, he. He just posted that he hit number one on Billboard's R B and Hip Hop. Or he's number one Billboard R B and Hip Hop album. They just tweet. Our Instagram posted him to congratulate him. So people don't care. I saw that he was voting something like people's favorite or something on, like, a poll that Billboard has.

[DJ Envy]

He's selling out concert, selling out shows.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Hell yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Is he still selling the Thug?

[Lauren LaRosa]

This is called the last one because this is reportedly the last album that he has to do under the YSL situation.

[DJ Envy]

Got you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I've been listening to Jid and Marco plus Marco plus got this album called Marco plus versus the Underworld. That's very tough. Very tough.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

There so much music to catch up on.

[DJ Envy]

You.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

I'm still on Clips album. I. I'm.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I still a good place to be. Good place to be as well.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Fat Joe and Jada Kiss are hilarious, though. Drop on the clues. Join Jada. And you know what I was saying about Jo and Jada's podcast? I actually told Joe this, like, there's such OG veterans who had so much success in hip hop, they can say whatever they want. They have the. They have the cache to be able to discuss hip hop any way they want to because of their status.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And they do.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And you and they.

[Lauren LaRosa]

That's exactly why you tune in. They say.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They'Ve broken other artists, like, every single angle of the game they have, you know, had success in. So they can talk about hip hop in any way, shape or form. And whether you agree or disagree, you got to respect their opinion because of who they are.

[DJ Envy]

They have problems with their labels. Yeah, they've been through every aspect.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Every, every aspect.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

They started up funny, though. Yo, Joe, the way Joey tell a.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Story, the way Jada Kiss just be reacting to him is they, like, the perfect. Like, I love their dynamic.

[DJ Envy]

Them, like, that's how Joe is. Like, he don't be trying to be funny. He just funny.

[Laura Coates]

Right?

[DJ Envy]

And that's how Jadakiss is. Like, that is them.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

He be dead serious telling these stories. Yo, he be sounding like he be lying, but it be.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It be real.

[Lauren LaRosa]

He was on this episode looking for turkey wings they found or turkey chops they found. It was a whole thing they found. They was looking for, like, this one place and they found it for him. But, yeah, their episodes be all over the place, but you be so tuned in.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I can understand why Joe would feel that way about Gunna's album. Because of Joe's background.

[DJ Envy]

Correct.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But ain't most of y' all ain't in the street and never been in the street, so you could. It shouldn't matter whether or not Gunna, you know, snitched or not. Or not.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[DJ Envy]

All right, well, that is the latest with Lauren. Sh. Man, we giving that donkey, too, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Four after the hour, man. We need to talk about why some open marriages need to stay closed, we'll discuss.

[DJ Envy]

All right, we'll get to that. Next, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Don't be a donkey, cuz right now.

[Laura Coates]

You want some real donkey.

[DJ Envy]

It's time for donkey of the day.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So if you ever feel I need to be a donkey man, hit it with the hero. Did she get donkey today?

[DJ Envy]

Please, Devil.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Absolutely.

[Laura Coates]

I have become donkey.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Donkey of the day.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Breakfast Club man. Donkey of the day for Wednesday, August 20th. Let me make sure. Yes, it is Wednesday, August 20th. Donkey of the day for Wednesday, August 20th goes to a 55 year old Georgia woman named Cheryl Cole. Now, Cheryl was convicted Monday of murder and aggravated assault in the death of her husband. Yep, old Cheryl was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole after she smoked her husband. Okay. Her husband named name is Luther Luke Code iii. And he was shot and killed after his wife drank four or five Angry Orchard Hard Ciders. I never heard of that brand until this morning. Not a good way to get introduced because I don't really drink like that anymore. But when I do, it will never be Angry Orchard Hard Cider. Now, Cheryl told the police she was just trying to protect herself. Told the police she thought her husband was an intruder and claimed she didn't realize she shot her husband until he reportedly said, cheryl, girl, you shot me. Well, that story was a lie. Would you like to know what happened for real? Okay, let me read you the headline. Everybody pay attention. Woman shot husband dead after he wanted to add new rules to their open marriage. I repeat, woman shot husband dead after he wanted to add new rules to their open marriage. Now that's the headline. And I know when you heard that headline, you immediately blame the man. Man, you immediately think, look at him being greedy. Already got an open marriage but wanted more. No, it was actually her. See, investigators discovered that they was having issues in their marriage. Okay. A series of text messages they discovered showed the couple beefing over their open marriage. Cheryl Cole asked her husband for permission to see another man later that week. That's respectful. In an open marriage. I would just assume those are the rules. We can see other people, but just let me know what's going on. Let's just be honest with each other.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

Other.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But then the husband asked her, does she also plan to see a second man the same day? To which the wife replied, lol. The victim, Luther Luke Cole, who is now dead, reportedly said her response turned his stomach. Of course it did. Okay. I mean, I know we got an open marriage, but you don't have to be a whole whore about it, okay? I mean, how much vagina do you have have to give? Okay, I'm still your husband, so I need a piece. Okay, you got another dude who getting a piece and now you handing out slices to someone else when there's no pie left for me. Okay, you just out here acting like your poom poom is bottomless. Like men can enjoy unlimited refills of that 55 year old snatch. Not to mention, okay, no one woman should have all those UTIs. Yes, multiple sexual partners can increase the risk of developing urinary tract infections. And you just out here bringing that cloudy and foul smelling urine in the house. Yes, your husband has every right to feel sick to his stomach. Okay, I know we got an open marriage, but don't run out now. Okay? How many people are you going to let travel through our love tunnel? By the way, this is the plot of many a TWA movie. Okay, let me tell you something. For anyone who wants to engage in having their marriage open are slightly ajar. Watch a TWA movie first, okay? They on tubi. All right, fine. Early 2000s viewing and all the TWA movies explored the consequences. Instances of a married couple's decision to engage in a threesome. And there was always some dangerous or nut ass complication that would happen. Envy. You told me that your favorite episode was when the college student turned into a male prostitute and he fell in love with another male escort. And you said that episode really made you think. What did it make you think about?

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Lies.

[DJ Envy]

I didn't say that.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

I've never seen it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Guys.

[DJ Envy]

No, I said lies.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The moral of the story is when you married, just leave Pandora's body box and your marriage closed. What's the point of being married if you're gonna leave your marriage open at all times? Like a waffle house. Okay, Cheryl said she suggested they in their open marriage because it was causing issues. You think? But he reportedly wanted to keep it going with more ground rules. Yes, a two penis minimum. Okay, Mine and your little boyfriend. Okay, but now you want us to be the locks and bring in a third member. Your vagina will not be a group project as long as we're married, ma'.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

Am.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And then the police report says that Luther got even more upset when he found out his wife was talking about their issues with a friend. My God. We already got an open marriage. And you telling the world how that poom poom is on a world tour. She claims she shot her husband in self defense. She reportedly said he came storming into the room and tried dragging her out of bed. And when he left the room, she grabbed the gun, fired a warning shot, which she said made him angry before pulling the trigger. The second time. Time she said she was just trying to hit the wall behind the TV so it would scare him off and make him leave. But she actually shot and killed him. He's dead now, okay? All because she was out there sharing her lady like a buffet at Golden Corral. And by the way, even though buffets are labeled all you can eat, they will impose restrictions if your eating behavior is deemed excessive or disruptive to other customers. Cheryl, your excessive sexual behavior, you was disruptive to your husband, okay? It was excessive, all right? He said something, and now he's dead. And you are doing life behind bars. Let me be the first to tell you, okay? Or maybe the second after the judge you deserve. Please give Cheryl Cole the biggest he. Ho.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Yo, that's crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Insane.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

You shot him and killed him, all.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because he just simply didn't want you to be out there with two guys.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

They had to come from somewhere else. It sounds a little deeper. You wouldn't like. Come on. We already have an open marriage, okay? Now I change the rules, and you shoot and kill me because you being greedy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You running out. You running out.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

I know greed is evil, and that.

[Laura Coates]

Can lead to a lot of different.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Crazy consequences, even murder. But come on. This had to be deeply rooted in other problems that they were having.

[DJ Envy]

You want to play a game?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You want to play a game?

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Yeah, let's do it.

[DJ Envy]

Let's play a game.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let's play a game. Let's play a game of guess what race is.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

All right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Cheryl Cole was convicted of murder and aggravated assault in the death of her husband. She shot her husband because he wanted to change rules in their open marriage. DJ envy me first. He is.

[DJ Envy]

Ah, this is a tough one. But it's not tough, right? Why Cheryl and Luther feel like black names, huh? But this situation seems white. I'm going white.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, okay, Jess. Hilarious. Hilarious. Cheryl Cole was convicted Monday of murder and aggravated assault in the death of her husband. She shot him because he wanted to change the rules of their open marriage. And please pay attention to the fact that I said she drank four or five Angry Orchard hard ciders. Oh, wow. Just hilarious. Yes. What? Racist.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Angry Orchard. White all over it now. Luther might be black. Luther might have been black. It could have been a biracial.

[DJ Envy]

I mean, relationship.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

You know, interracial marriage. Right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let me pull.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Luther was black. Cheryl was white.

[DJ Envy]

It's White all the way.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

I don't think Luther was white.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

White all the way. White all the way.

[Laura Coates]

White all the way.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

DJ Envy and Jess HS you both are absolutely correct. Cheryl Cohen, Luther are absolutely Caucasian. Okay, capital riot. White. January 6th, insurrection. White.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, my goodness. All right.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Looks of hazard. White.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Look at them girls with the dated dips.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, my goodness. Thank you for that dog here today. Now, let's open up the phone lines. 800-585-1051. We're asking what's the craziest thing you've been sent to HR for? Has somebody sent an HR complaint against you? Now, this story comes from this lady who sent her a file the HR complaint against one of her co workers because her co worker was getting married and she did not get invited.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, please.

[DJ Envy]

So what she did was saying it's an exclusive and it was creating a hostile work environment and she went to hr. So we're asking what's the most ridiculous reason someone reported you to hr?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I can't relate. Contrary to popular belief, I am a stellar, stellar employee.

[DJ Envy]

Not yet.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What you mean not yet?

[DJ Envy]

Because I'm taking you to hr.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So I can't wait when I tell you the stories that I'm going to tell.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

You been doing radio way too long. And you've been been so reckless for almost your whole career. You've never been since hr. You're lying.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

On the microphone is different than off the microphone.

[DJ Envy]

You done flirted with me, even on the mic. You touch me. Oh, I'm going to HR soon.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I touched you.

[DJ Envy]

Yes, you have.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Wa. Did I touch you can't send somebody hr. And he gay, too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let me hold this little yellow Ernie doll up and you tell me where bert touched him.

[DJ Envy]

800-585-1051. We're talking HR complaints. Call us now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Pull out.

[DJ Envy]

Pull out your. Pull out your phone.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Call in right now. Call me. Opinion to the Breakfast Club. Topic. Break it down. 800-585-1051.

[DJ Envy]

The Breakfast Club.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's topic time.

[DJ Envy]

Call 800-585-1051 to join into the discussion.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

With the Breakfast Club.

[DJ Envy]

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Now, if you're just joining us, we're asking, have you ever had a HR complaint file against you? Now, this story comes from a woman who didn't invite a co worker to her wedding. So her co worker said that she was being exclusive and creating a hostile work environment for not inviting Her.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That is very petty, by the way.

[DJ Envy]

800-585-1051. Have you ever been filed a complaint at HR?

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

No, I never been sent to HR.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You never had a real job though. Wow. Hold on. This time, is this your first job?

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Wow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No. Is.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Wow. Yeah, this my first real corporate. But don't play with me like that. Actually, this a corporate job.

[DJ Envy]

Yes, this is corporate job.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Didn't know that you worked in fast food before though. Yes, I worked in the fast food.

[DJ Envy]

Department of fast food spots.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Oh, sorry, cuz I worked at one of the biggest McDonald's.

[DJ Envy]

Okay.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Yes, yes. And I got five for stealing. Don't quote me on that. But no, seriously, I've never been sent to hr and I never got. I never sent nobody to hr. Right. There are times that I feel like I. I probably should have ended up at hr, but I didn't. What?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Huh?

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

What about you, Charlemagne?

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

If I was to go, all of us was going.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, I've never been. I've never. I've never been. I know we got written up once. It was all in before, I promise you, it was all. What you do is. When we first started at Breakfast Club, way, way back in the day. 2010, 2011. Salute to our guy, Cadillac Jack. He was the program director here at the time. Time and Envy told us that we could go to lunch and we didn't have to be to the meeting on time because we. The Breakfast Club. And we, we ate lunch, walked into the meeting like 20, 30 minutes later. And what did you say when we walked in the meeting?

[DJ Envy]

The party don't start till we walk in.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Oh, wow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He thought he was hosting a party.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

A foot washed up, a shoe with some bones in it. They had no idea who it was.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Most everything was burned up pretty good from the fire that not a whole lot was salvageable.

[Laura Coates]

These are the coldest of cold cases. But everything is about to change.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Every case that is a cold case that has DNA right now in a backlog will be identified in our lifetime.

[Laura Coates]

A small lab in Texas is cracking the code on DNA using new scientific tools. They're finding clues in evidence so tiny you might just miss it.

[DJ Envy]

He never thought he was going to get caught. And I just looked at my computer screen. I was just like, ah, gotcha.

[Laura Coates]

On America's Crime Lab, we'll learn about victims and survivors, and you'll meet the team behind the scenes at othram, the Houston lab that takes on the most hopeless cases to finally solve the unsolvable. Listen to America's Crime Lab on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Hunter (Host of Hunting for Answers)]

I'm Hunter, host of Hunting for Answers on the Black Effect Podcast Network. Join me every weekday as I share bite sized stories of missing and murdered Black women and girls in America. There are several ways we can all do better at protecting Black women. My contribution is shining a light on our missing sisters and amplifying their disregarded stories. Stories like Tameka Anderson as she drove toward Galvez says she was in contact with several people talking on the phone as she made her way to what should have been a routine transaction. But Tameka never bought the car and she never returned home that day. One podcast, one mission. Save our girls. Join the search as we explore the chilling cases of missing and murdered Black women and girls. Listen to Hunting for Answers every weekday on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.

[Laura Coates]

Welcome to Pretty Private with ebony, the podcast where silence is broken and stories are set free. I'm EBONY and every Tuesday I'll be.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Sharing all new anonymous stories that would.

[Laura Coates]

Challenge your perceptions and give you you.

[Lauren LaRosa]

New insight on the people around you. On Pretty Private, we'll explore the untold.

[Laura Coates]

Experiences of women of color who faced.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It all childhood trauma, addiction, abuse, incarceration.

[Laura Coates]

Grief, mental health struggles and more and.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Found the strength to make it to the other side. My dad was shot and killed in his house. Yes, he was a drug dealer. Yes he was a confidential informant. But he wasn't shot on street corners. He wasn't shot in the middle of a drug deal.

[Laura Coates]

He was shot in his house unarmed.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Pretty Private isn't just a podcast, it's your personal guide for turning storylines into lifelines. Every Tuesday, make sure you listen to Pretty Private from the Black Effect Podcast Network. Tune in on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

[Morgan Wood]

Hey sis, what if I could promise.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You you never had to listen to.

[Morgan Wood]

A condescending finance bro tell you how.

[Lauren LaRosa]

To manage your money again? Welco Brown Ambition this is the hard part.

[Laura Coates]

When you pay down those credit cards.

[Lauren LaRosa]

If you haven't gotten to the bottom of why you were racking up credit or turning to credit cards, you may just recreate the same problem a year from now when you do feel like you are bleeding from these high interest.

[Laura Coates]

Rates, I would start shopping for a.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Debt consolidation loan starting with your local credit union. Shopping around online looking for some online lenders because they tend to have fewer fees and be more affordable. Listen I. I am not here to judge. It is so expensive in these streets. I 100% can see how in just a few months, you can have this much credit card debt. When it weighs on you, it's really.

[Morgan Wood]

Easy to just, like, stick your head in the sand.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It's nice and dark in the sand. Even if it's scary, it's not going to go away just because you're avoiding it. And in fact, it may get even worse. For more judgment free money advice, listen to Brown ambition on the iHeartRadio app.

[Morgan Wood]

Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Walked in and said, the party don't start till we walk in. Really?

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

I always did what y' all wanted up here.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, that's not true.

[DJ Envy]

We got written up that day.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He definitely got written up.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Crazy.

[DJ Envy]

All right, well, let's go to the phone line. We got Ace on the line. Ace, good morning.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

Good morning, man.

[DJ Envy]

Ace, what you got written up for that?

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

Yo, I got written up because I drew this picture of this fat dude that I used to work with, but it wasn't like. No, no. Crazy, disrespectful picture.

[DJ Envy]

That is kind of crazy.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

It was like a. It was a fat stick figure, bro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hilarious.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

How do you draw a fat stick figure?

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

Yeah, but that's what made it funny.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, hilarious.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

A fat stick figure, but hilarious. The weird part is he made a. He made copies of it and then passed it around to everybody in the plant so I could get fired.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Did everybody laugh?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Did you get fired?

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

Yo, listen, the HR lady, but my boss, the actual supervisor, everybody thought this was hilarious, but it was like. It was just. It was just like, yo, like, I couldn't believe. All right, so it was funny, but it wasn't supposed to be. No. All right, well, let me. Let me get this dude fired. Like, I drew it, but listen, gave it to him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Tell me some of the nicknames y' all have for him. I know y' all have some fire nicknames.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

Oh, he got the best one. They call, you know those. The HOKA sneakers.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

The Hokas.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

Hoka.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let me look them up. What about them?

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Nice. They good for your feet, yo.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

They're like. They're like. Or.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, the shoes.

[DJ Envy]

Running shoes. You see the running shoes?

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm looking at them now, the HOKA.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

Shoes, but I think that's what made them upset, because I drew the hook of sneakers on the. On the stick.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What job do you have where you.

[DJ Envy]

Can sit there and draw all day? What kind of job is this where you work, bro?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yo, hilarious.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

I ain't about to do that. I don't even work there no more.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

So say you did get fired, huh?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Stop pressuring the young man.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Yo, yo, how did you make. How did you make this stick figure? Fat? Like, did you bowl the stick?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Big ass circle. Oh, I'm gonna draw somebody in here right now. Give me a. And I bet y' all know who I'm drawing.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

And I'm looking for a pin top.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, no. Who's this?

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

This Janice?

[DJ Envy]

Hey, Janice. Good morning. What did you get to. What, did they file a complaint against you on HR4?

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

Little Deval got me in trouble.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What happened? Tell us more.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

No, I. I'm a network marketer. Shout out to you, Envy, because I always did your POD show to help the wellness business. Walked across the stage that weekend, got.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Me 100 grand ring for hitting a goal. Got back Monday morning, pull up in.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

The rental, little Devone was playing Smile, Chick, Smile, Chick. I had issues with her. She thought I was calling her the B word. I went from A happiness to H.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They thought they were talking about somebody else.

[DJ Envy]

Damn it. Thank you, Janice.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, my God. Yo, but see, that's what you. That's. That's. Whoever she was talking to was culturally clueless.

[DJ Envy]

Correct.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Culturally incompetent, because she should have known that was a song. But even if that was a song, you still could have been using that song to taunt her. You could have been.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Yeah, but. Come on. I hate y'. All. I ain't seen the one singing it. She just put it on.

[DJ Envy]

If you're just joining us, we open up the phone lines. 800-585-1051. We're asking, have you ever got a HR complaint? Now, this comes from a lady who was getting married.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Married.

[DJ Envy]

She didn't invite her co worker, and her co worker went to hr, said it was being exclusive and creating a hostile environment.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, we're not talking about that. Enough. That is very petty.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

That is actually stupid, silly. I've never heard of that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's a wedding. Like, it's my personal wedding. I don't have to invite none of my employees to the wedding.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

But see. But you see how personal that co workers be getting because, like, how did you feel away that. Remember, some people up here was upset that they didn't get invited to my baby shower. Some of those people are not here anymore. But I'm just saying they got upset that they weren't invited to my baby shower. And I'm like, damn. I mean, we're.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We're cool.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

We're, you know. But that's like a little too personal for me. Yeah, I got family members that wasn't even invited to my baby shower. So I just think that's an issue. Like, you took that person to hr.

[DJ Envy]

HR shouldn't have been able to file that. That sounds crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Hello? Who's this?

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

This is Daryl from Detroit.

[DJ Envy]

Daryl from Detroit. What up, though?

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

What up though? What up, Charlamagne?

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

What's up, baby?

[DJ Envy]

What they filed a complaint against you for?

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

All right, so it was actually a valid reason I was sleep on a job at a kid detention center. But it's third shift and everybody takes a nap on third shift. Right. Only. Only problem was I got into it with the supervisor's cousin. And the next week they like we got you on camera sleep. Like, even, even. Even the supervisor's cousin, he was sleeping on the control people came to get to the building because he supervisor come knock, you know, hit him, wake him up and stuff. Like, come on, man, we gotta, you know, stay woke a little bit.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, you know what you're supposed to do in a situation like that? You supposed to be like G money and blow the whole joint. So. So if they taking you down, everybody gotta go down. Yeah, you gotta tell on everybody that was sleeping Charlemagne.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

Everybody got sent to a different ship. I promise you, that's what he did.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what I'm talking about.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

One other thing. I think you and I might actually be related. My grandmother was. Alice was still McKelvey, born in Seneca, South Carolina.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, wow.

[DJ Envy]

That's your grandmother conversation with you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's not my grandmother, but my Last name is McKelvey.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

No, I mean, like, might be a great under something. I don't know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, I'm gonna put you on.

[DJ Envy]

Hold because he might have some money for you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, you should go. You should go down to the International African American Museum in Charleston, South Carolina. You can go down there and look at your whole genealogy. They have a activation where you can go look at your whole genealogy and trace back basically your whole family tree.

[DJ Envy]

Hello, who's this?

[Lauren LaRosa]

This hound Diva comedy.

[DJ Envy]

Hey, Htown. Diva comedy. What you got sent to HR for?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Okay, so I worked at a hospital.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

I used to be administrative assistant at a very prestigious hospital. And so the doctors was moving to a different side of the hospital.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

And all of the assistants had to move their.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

Unbeknownst to me, one of the nurses.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Admin, she didn't want to move her.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

So she went to HR before I even knew it.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I never had A conversation with her, anything.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

We never got into it.

[Laura Coates]

She went to HR and told them.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

That I threatened her, gave her the.

[Lauren LaRosa]

The middle finger, and was like, f her. I ain't got time for this.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

You gonna move your desk?

[Laura Coates]

And.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

And then I told her that I'm.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

Gonna come back and shoot her before a death. HR called me to the office, and they had both departments sitting there, and they were like, yeah, we're here because of your actions towards another administration.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And because I have a big personality, it's real easy to think that I.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

Said, I'll shoot, bitch, but that ain't even true.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That ain't got nothing to do with big personality. Don't blame that on a big personality. Okay? That's just being violent.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

But I.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

But I wasn't.

[Laura Coates]

I didn't even know we had beef.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

And so because of that, they were.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Like, I bust out laughing when I figured out what I was there for.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

And they just said, well, we're just.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Gonna keep this on record just in.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

Case y' all ever get into it in the future. But she lied.

[Lauren LaRosa]

We never even had a conversation.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Can I ask you a question?

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

She was going shooting. Like, what.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What did she tell the truth about? Be honest now.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

She told you about nothing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You. You did give it a little. You gave it. You gave it a middle finger.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

I did not give her.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

I didn't even talk to a girl. Like, she was a weirdo.

[Laura Coates]

We didn't even have any problems.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So she just made up the whole story. The whole story.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

She lied. She made up the whole story because.

[Lauren LaRosa]

She didn't want to move her desk.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

It wasn't a big deal. To be.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

To be honest, I didn't want to be by the doctor cuz I used.

[Lauren LaRosa]

To come to work late all the time.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

Well, thank.

[DJ Envy]

Thank you, mama. You know, the crazy thing about is we've been doing radio for a long time.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Could you imagine if we went to HR for some of the things that happened to us early on, by the way?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

First of all, let me tell you what I say behind the scenes all the time. The reason I am the way I am, because if I ever get rid of the hr, I want it to be funny. I want y' all to read what he said and what he did and die laughing. Okay. I can't wait for Envy to report me. I'm gonna report.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

He has so many things to report about you, though.

[DJ Envy]

I'm just making a file. I'm just go just.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You thought Diddy freak off trial was funny. Let me. Oh, my God.

[DJ Envy]

I be gonna be in the beginning bathroom using the urinal. He be whisper behind me like, I cannot wait.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

How the hell does he get behind you in the or? I'm thinking.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That never happened. Yeah, that never happened. You know what I like to do though? Sometimes when me and him be in the bathroom, if somebody else be like in a stall, he'll walk in and he'd be like, there you go. And I won't say nothing. So the person in the stall think. Talking to. Talking to him? No. The wild thing I saw in the bathroom, though, I walked in one time, man, and this dude was doing the number two. He just yelled out Envy's name.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

No.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

For no reason. He said ran. He was just sitting there going crazy on the toilet. And he just goes, rashan. And I didn't say he's lying.

[DJ Envy]

All right, we got the latest with Lauren coming up and we here, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I just want everybody to know that Lauren LaRosa just told us that she's on a 30 day alcohol fast, so she won't be drinking. She said she started on Sunday. Correct. So anybody, if you ever see her out in the next 30 days with any type of alcohol, please record, record it and send to me the same way y' all do when y' all see her out with a guy I already know.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It's a lot out with my man.

[DJ Envy]

It's a lot lie.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I have two different videos. I don't.

[Lauren LaRosa]

My man. One. Please don't play. Okay, my man. Can we please get into play? Thank you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Somebody that knows somebody.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm the home girl that knows a little bit about everything.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She be having the latest on.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

The.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Latest with Lauren LaRosa. Sometimes you have facts, sometimes you have details. Sometimes she have a little bit of everything. Who is the latest on the Breakfast Club? Talk to me. Talk to me.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Well, guys, Life Jennings has released a song in response to Money Long.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Are you sure this is life?

[Lauren LaRosa]

It is life.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Sure it's Life and not Jaheim?

[Lauren LaRosa]

It is Life Jennings.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Positive.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I am so positive.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Just making sure.

[DJ Envy]

Is it a dis record?

[Lauren LaRosa]

I. I don't know if it's a dis. I feel like it can be.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

It ain't no rap, is it?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Let's take a listen to it and I'll explain the background. Let's take a listen. Life to Dinning song.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Drop bomb for life.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Listen, he still sound good, but I can't make out none of the lyrics.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Did he say the smell of your trauma? That's what it sound like he said in the beginning?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Might have. I know he might have. I did hear her say something about.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He said telling somebody that trauma has an odor is hilarious.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Crazy. I heard you.

[DJ Envy]

I did hear smell.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Stop.

[Laura Coates]

Yeah, well.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So Money Long had commented back on the Breakfast Club Instagram, cuz remember we were saying she didn't put LOL or nothing, so we didn't know she was playing. So she said that they just said on threads and Tick tock that millennials need to stop playing LOL at the end of every sentence. We can't win. Then she went over to the shade room and she commented on the shade room and she apologized. She said, hey man, if I hurt your feelings, that's valid. I can take that and apologize. Definitely didn't mean it as a joker. No disrespect. This is getting blown way out of proportion, which is what I said to you in my direct message. I can't tell you how I feel at all. Again, no disrespect. I apologize. I'm done with it now. I've addressed it you directly and publicly. Have a nice day. Day. So he reposted a comment of hers where she commented and said you wasn't hating. Don't lie. And he said. So you leave this message doubling down on your post after you said it was a joke. Calling a grown man a hating ass. N word is wild work, even as a joke. I've never been that man. But what I've been is humble enough to hold on to high regard for those who've come before me and celebrate them. Good news is you came a long way. Bad news is you came the wrong way. Jcole I'm about to show you what I mean. And then he said, that was a J. Cole, like a reference, that one line. Then he says, I'mma just let my pen talk. I got a jokey joke too. So then he dropped that song.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Although when she was in his comments or whatever, right, she did leave an emoji, like a laughing emoji. So we told her that we should. That she should start, you know, laughing and all. And she did. And he posted that. But like. Like she was playing. I don't think she doubled down on the serious comment what she said she was also playing about. But she did. She kind of tried to lighten the mood up. And he.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He was.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

He already was in.

[Lauren LaRosa]

He had already recorded in the studio.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I just like when artists reply with music. I don't need all them tweets and social media posts. I like the Fact that life came with some I like.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, I can't wait till we can actually hear the actual words.

[DJ Envy]

Where'd you get that version from?

[Lauren LaRosa]

It was posted on his Instagram.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't even know if he said the smelly or trauma.

[DJ Envy]

That's all you want.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Somebody, they trauma stank.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Shut up. Well, some people just don't play like that. Cuz that's what it was. Just going through the whole, the whole moral of the story. Everybody don't play like that cuz he.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Exactly.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

He's a grown man. He. He's a grown ass man. He said man just. I only like what you said. Like that's, that's wild work. Everybody don't play like that.

[Laura Coates]

So.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Well, in other back and forths, this interview was actually posted to Fox 5 Atlanta a few days ago, but when I discovered it, no one had picked it up. So I wanted to make sure we talked about this because we've been talking a lot about Layla Ali and Clarissa Shields. So Layla Ali was talking to Fox 5 Atlanta about her new cooking show and then they asked her about what's going on with her and Clarissa. Let's talk to Layla. Let's listen to Layla Ali on fighting Clarissa Shields.

[Laura Coates]

Is there any chance you would be back in the ring addressing some of.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This with Clarissa Shields?

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

So please don't say her name because when you do, she just pops up. She just pops up. No, no, no. It's actually a funny question. And it all came about because I said on one, one of the biggest nights on Netflix we saw we had a women's boxing historic event. And I hosted, co hosted. And I said that if someone offered me 15 to 20 million dollars, I would think about it. And then of course, the person that you mentioned just inserted herself into the conversation. And right now I'm so focused on this and everything that I'm doing. I'm a mom, I'm a wife, I got a lot going on. But the world will know my answer to whether or not where I stand with boxing very soon.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, so she hasn't completely shut the door.

[Lauren LaRosa]

No, she has not.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

All together.

[Lauren LaRosa]

No, she has not. Now there's one other clip because we were talking about the age thing and they asked her specifically about, you know, the Mike Tyson, Jake Paul fight and how that can, like the parallel between it. Let's take a listen to that one.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

I think what's amazing is, and why I even said I would think about it is because there isn't any other woman. I've been out of the ring almost 20 years. And all I had to do was say, say I'll think, right? And I'm actually getting multiple multi million dollar offers. Right? 15 million and up. So I was like, wow, imagine if I came back to boxing, how I could break that ceiling for women and raise the bar for them yet again, just like I did the first time I was boxing. Because there's not going to be anytime soon another woman that can even ask for that type of money and actually receive it, you know, and get multiple offers. So when you talk about legacy, that could definitely be a part of my legacy. But then again, there's so much I'd have to consider, right, To. To prepare for something like that.

[DJ Envy]

So she seems like she's thinking about it.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Exactly. Yep. And a lot of people thought that she was not or she was not trying to have this fight. She's thinking about it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, we know what needs to happen next. Clarissa Shields, freestyle over cannabis, second round. Written by Papoose calling Leila Ali out. Let's go.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

It seemed like they doing the same thing, though, right? Because according to the Fire Inside, which is Clarissa Shield's movie, she had did something as well. Right. Like for women, try to, like, set a precedent that women gets more money, a certain amount of money, right. To go fight, to do these big fights like that. So, I mean, they all in all doing the same thing, want the same thing for women's box, and I think it's good for the sport, and I would like to see that fight.

[DJ Envy]

All right, well, that is the latest with Lauren.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay?

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

All right, well, definitely get your sunglasses, and they're not that expensive, so don't think they're a couple hundred dollars. They are not. They are. They Are affordable.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Yes.

[DJ Envy]

Now the People's Choice mixes up. Next, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning, everybody.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

It's DJ Envy.

[DJ Envy]

Just hilarious. Charlotte Main, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. So we got to salute Laura Coates for joining us this morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Man. Salute the Laura Coates. If you don't watch Laura COATES Live on CNN at 11:00pm you need to every night. And I just like hearing Laura talk like Laura. You know, she. She has a lot to offer because she's a former prosecutor and she can break legal things down in a very simple way. Simplistic. Salute the Lord.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

I like her.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She caught.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

She taught me a few things. So I. I love when women can educate other women.

[DJ Envy]

That's right. And we got a salute to Golden Corral.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Come on now.

[DJ Envy]

In the Bronx, East Tremont Avenue in the Bronx. They came. They supply food today. Not only did they supply food, they had an omelet station where they can actually cook the omelets. They bought some frozen drinks, so they had a full spread.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I always tell y' all that the craziest people in America come from the Bronx and all of Florida. Yes. Is that true?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Sometimes.

[DJ Envy]

Tell them who we talking to.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Narupa.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Narupa.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So we're family owned and operated. I'm the big sister. I have my little sister, sister's hair.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

And my brother here. Love it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What's their names?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Nadia, Dave and Priya.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So why they did that to you? Narupa? What's that mean? I'm just playing.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I don't know. My mom was a teacher. We're from Guyana originally.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

My parents are.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And that was her favorite student.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, okay. What'd your mom teach? My mom was an English teacher.

[Lauren LaRosa]

She's a preschool.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay. Yeah. And how did y' all decide to start opening up Golden Cross?

[Lauren LaRosa]

So we come from the restaurant industry. We grew up in the industry. Our dad is with sizzlers since the 70s.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wow.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So we. This is what we. It's in our blood.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Gotcha. Now tell the truth. Those rolls are yeast, right?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And y' all give those to people. So when people put their eat the yeast roll and then drink a little bit, it expands in their stomach so they don't eat so much. That's always been a rumor.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

If it's a buffet, why would they do that?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They want you to eat everything.

[DJ Envy]

She said false.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's not true.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It has yeast in it, though. But we make thousands of those rolls from scratch every week. We have a full bakery. Our biscuits are made from scratch.

[Caller/Listener (e.g., KP, Rob, Nicole)]

Wow.

[Lauren LaRosa]

We Brought you a good sampling of what Golden Crowd has to offer for our breakfast buffet. We know you're a fan, Charlemagne. I love Golden Crown, so we hope you guys enjoy. We are one of the first Golden Corrals to have alcohol in the country. So we have frozen drinks, we have mimosas, we have sangria.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So it gets turned up in the Bronx.

[DJ Envy]

That's right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So listen, I want to ask, is.

[DJ Envy]

There a limit to amount somebody can actually eat? So, like.

[Lauren LaRosa]

No, there isn't. It's an all you can eat buffet. But we do have a time limit of an hour and a half.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Half.

[DJ Envy]

So they gotta eat that. An hour and a half.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, but we only enforce that when we are at peak times. We're. We have 279 seats. We can accommodate large parties, but compared to other Golden Corrals, we're on the smaller side, so that's why we enforce that policy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Have you ever seen, like, a really big person walk in and all of y' all go, oh, go. Oh, my God. Boxes?

[Lauren LaRosa]

We do. It's a separate charge. It's a separate charge. It's weighed by the pound for anything.

[DJ Envy]

You take by the pound.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So to dine in for breakfast and lunch, it's 13.99 per person. For dinner, it's only 20.99 per person. Person. We're really known for our dinner buffet. You have steaks, cook to order. We have right now a wing promotion. All you can eat.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Wings, girl. The flats with wings. It's party wings. Or is like the whole wings.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We.

[Lauren LaRosa]

We have both. We know you like the whole wings, right?

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Yes, and I like flats, too.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, we have that. So it really is the best value.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

In New York City, I think Golden.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Girls, the best buffet in the country. I'm not saying that because y' all here. Y' all hear me talk about it all. I agree, because I grew up on Ryan. Ryan's. But then we started eating that Golden Crowd. I'm like, going. Crowd shuts Ryan's down. Charlemagne's been riding with us since day one. That's right.

[Laura Coates]

Yeah.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

That's a fact. That's dope.

[DJ Envy]

All right, well, thank you for joining us. You can definitely check them out at Tremont Avenue in the Bronx now. Charlie, man, you got a positive note.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hold on. He was with another shout out.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Follow us at. At Bronx Golden Crawl on Instagram.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yep. I actually just tagged y', all and so.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Oh, dope. Yeah, that's dope. And it's. And mind you, they're banana pudding crazy. The honey Chicken wing things even crazier.

[DJ Envy]

Let me ask you a question because we supposed to be going to the gym today. You ate all that before we go?

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Well, that's why I do that Envy. So I can burn the calories. I don't have nothing to burn if I go. See, See, that's what the yeast rolls do.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So I do have some passes for you guys to come try us out with your family. I'm gonna leave them right here for you.

[DJ Envy]

She gave me two. She had no she don't know I got six kids.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

But that's how you got six kids.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Here's my cell phone number.

[Jessica (Jess) Hilarious]

Bring your full family.

[DJ Envy]

Hey, that's what I'm talking about.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Queens, we coming Queens.

[DJ Envy]

You got positive notes, sir.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. Great works are performed not by strength, but by perseverance. Okay, have a great day. Breakfast Club.

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[DJ Envy]

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