FULL SHOW: Nicki Minaj Calls Out Keyshia Ka’oir & The Breakfast Club, Stephen A. Mentions LeBron Again + Gov. Wes Moore & Jeremy Renner Interview

Summary

The Breakfast Club – Full Show Summary

Date: October 21, 2025
Podcast: The Breakfast Club
Hosts: DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God

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Episode Overview

This lively episode dives into the intersection of hip-hop drama, impactful political conversations, and celebrity interviews with Governor Wes Moore and Jeremy Renner. The hosts discuss Nicki Minaj's recent social media tirade aimed at The Breakfast Club and Keyshia Ka’oir, analyze government shutdown ripple effects, break down sports developments, and tackle current events affecting listeners’ daily lives. The episode’s tone is candid, humorous, and occasionally raw, reflecting The Breakfast Club’s signature style.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Nicki Minaj's X (Twitter) Rant Toward Keyshia Ka’oir and The Breakfast Club

[22:00–34:50]

• Lauren LaRosa reports that Nicki Minaj lashed out at Keyshia Ka’oir (Gucci Mane's wife) and The Breakfast Club on X, alleging Keyshia is trying to imitate her and accusing the show and Roc Nation of orchestrating ploys against her.
  • Notable Quote (Nicki Minaj via Ana Ortiz, reading tweet):
    “Gucci wife has been trying to be me for years… Charlemagne the fraud, Jay Z’s friend and business associate using I heart radio for these disgusting ploys against innocent families.” [22:00]
• The team speculates that Nicki was triggered by their interview asking Keyshia about handling Gucci Mane’s mental health and discussing the lack of artist recognition for Gucci Mane, including Minaj’s own roots in his camp.
• Clips replay Keyshia describing how she deletes Gucci’s social media apps during episodes. This led fans to question if Nicki’s husband should do the same for her.
  • Keisha Ka’oir: “First thing I do, I delete Instagram. I delete everything… because I don’t need the public to know he’s having an episode.” [28:25]
• Charlamagne defends the conversation as positive and helpful for mental health, wishing Nicki healing energy.
  • Charlamagne: “I’m sending Nicki Minaj healing energy. I’m praying for her. I truly hope she heal because that sister is hurting.” [32:32]

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2. Front Page News Highlights – Government Shutdown Effects

[06:34–11:03; 36:35–43:10]

• Mimi Brown details the nationwide impact of the ongoing government shutdown, especially on SNAP (food assistance) and Medicaid recipients:
  • Pennsylvania froze food assistance payments; other states could follow.
  • Up to 42 million Americans could have benefits disrupted.
  • The Trump administration is restarting certain student loan forgiveness programs but warns they will end by 2028.
• Callers share personal stories about how the SNAP cuts affect their clients and communities.
  • Tasha (caller): “Most of the people I work with don’t even have job skills… some of these guys really… kept them in a little bubble.” [11:39]
  • Charlamagne: “When the people shall have nothing more to eat, they will eat the rich.” [09:19]
• Additional news covers averted tragedy at Atlanta airport due to family intervention, Amazon Web Services outages, and the explosion of sophisticated robocall scams.

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3. Governor Wes Moore Interview

[43:46–73:02]

• Moore discusses Maryland’s response to the shutdown and relief for federal workers (e.g., free public transit), strategies reducing crime, and his focus on action over endless studies (especially regarding reparations).
  • Governor Moore: “In Maryland, we tell our people, we leave no one behind.” [48:41]
  • On reparations studies: “I’m a person of action. I don’t need more studies… I already know the answer.” [70:19]
• Moore breaks down the impact of Trump-era cuts, his bipartisan appeal (including endorsements from Republican lawmakers), and his record on job growth and crime reduction.
• Candid thoughts on the federal government’s handling of aid, the dysfunction of national politics, and the symbolic performative use of military force by Trump.

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4. Jeremy Renner Interview

[84:54–105:57]

• Renner discusses his role in “Mayor of Kingstown" Season 4, his approach to morally gray characters, and the need for nuanced leadership in divisive times.
• He candidly shares his near-fatal snowplow accident and insights from his “near-death experience,” focusing on the primacy of love and community.
  • Jeremy Renner: “I had to go to the nth degree, right, to learn that… I got so many great gifts and blessings from being tested to my limits.” [99:46]
• The hosts ask Renner about differences in Disney/Marvel’s response to off-screen controversies, specifically why he was retained while Jonathan Majors was not.
  • Charlamagne: “Why did Marvel stick with you but was quick to discard somebody like Jonathan Major?”
  • Renner: “I don’t know… I think there’s a bigger… scope to that… public opinion becoming more valuable than the actual truth.” [103:28–104:12]

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5. Other Memorable Cultural & Listener Moments

• Sports Chatter [05:31, 35:06, 35:24]:
  • World Series: Dodgers vs. Blue Jays sparks Kendrick vs. Drake jokes.
  • Repeated jokes about God disliking Drake’s OVO crew.
  • Charlamagne: “What did OVO do to God?” [35:24]
• Listener Call-ins (“Get It Off Your Chest”) [11:13–17:15]:
  • Listeners vent on SNAP cuts, political candidates, and personal gripes (including outrage over stolen coffee creamer).
  • Ana Ortiz (Caller): “Whoever used my last bit of coffee cream at work, your mom’s a hoe!” [18:09]
• Front Page Alerts:
  • Robocall scams are at an all-time high, with AI-crafted texts, and Amazon Web Services outages disrupt daily life.

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6. Pop Culture Updates & Quick Hits

[73:27–113:10]

• Diddy Pardon Rumors:
  • Reports Trump may commute Diddy's sentence soon, paralleling recent high-profile pardons.
  • Charlamagne jokes: “You gonna come home and be Trump’s hoe now.” [74:42]
• Janet Jackson/Tupac AIDS Test Rumor Debunked:
  • John Singleton’s 2017 remarks replayed to finally clear persistent Poetic Justice gossip.
• LeBron Lawsuit Dropped:
  • Fan who sued for a refund after buying tickets speculating about LeBron’s retirement accepts tickets and merchandise from a betting company, ending the case.
• Stephen A. Smith vs. LeBron Ongoing “Beef”:
  • Smith rehashes his strained relationship with LeBron; Charlamagne is tired of the narrative.
  • Charlamagne: “I am tired of hearing that story… we don’t care.” [111:16]

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7. Donkey of the Day: Michael Jackson (Not that One)

[79:43–84:11]

• Charlamagne skewers a Kansas car thief named Michael Jackson, who was caught after asking a stranger for gas.
  • Charlamagne: “You supposed to be a smooth criminal… The only thing this Michael Jackson got started was a police report.” [81:10]

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Social Media & Mental Health:
  “Everybody should have a person who is going to help them when they hit rock bottom… Everybody should have a Keisha Ka’oir.” — Mark Delicato [31:20]

• On the Political Moment:
  “We don’t need a two-year study right now, man. I need action.” — Gov. Wes Moore [72:46]

• On Community & Surviving Adversity:
  “It’s ultimately… about love. … You can’t hate forever, but you can love forever in its perpetuity.” — Jeremy Renner [99:46]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [22:00] Nicki Minaj’s X rant and reaction
• [28:25-29:05] Keisha Ka’oir’s approach to Gucci Mane's mental health
• [43:46–73:02] Governor Wes Moore interview
• [84:54–105:57] Jeremy Renner interview
• [79:43–84:11] “Donkey of the Day” – Michael Jackson arrest story
• [73:27–78:54] Latest pop culture (Diddy pardon, Janet & Tupac rumor)
• [106:39–113:10] Latest on LeBron lawsuit and Stephen A/LeBron debate

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Tone and Style

True to The Breakfast Club’s energy, the episode moves fluidly between hard news, raw humor, and candid listener engagement. The hosts respond in real-time to breaking stories with a blend of empathy and comic relief, making political discussions accessible and celebrity drama engaging.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

This episode is a must-listen for anyone tracking the intersection of hip-hop culture, national headlines, and pop politics. Whether you’re here for Nicki Minaj’s feuds, run-ins with governors, or life-after-death stories from Marvel’s Hawkeye, The Breakfast Club continues its reign as “the world’s most dangerous morning show” by keeping important—and often ridiculous—conversations alive.

Transcript

[Ana Ortiz]

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[Mark Delicato]

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[Mimi Brown]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Mimi Brown]

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[Ana Ortiz]

Sami Gente. It's Ana Ortiz.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I'm Markin Delicato.

[Ana Ortiz]

You might know us as Hilda and.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Justin from Ugly Betty.

[Mark Delicato]

Welcome to our new podcast, Be My Best.

[Ana Ortiz]

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[Mark Delicato]

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[Ana Ortiz]

Listen to Viva Betty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Mark Delicato]

Short on time, but big on true crime. On a recent episode of the podcast.

[Mimi Brown]

Hunting for Answers, I highlighted the story of 19 year old Lachey Dungy.

[Mark Delicato]

But she never knocked on that door. She never made it inside.

[Mimi Brown]

And that text message would be the.

[Mark Delicato]

Last time anyone would ever hear from her.

[Mimi Brown]

Listen to Hunting for Answers from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Good morning usa. Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo.

[DJ Envy]

Just hilarious.

[Mark Delicato]

Wake that ass up.

[DJ Envy]

Charlemagne Nigol.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Peace to the planet. It's hey, how y' all feel out there? I feel blessed, black and highly favored. Happy to be here another day to serve our beautiful listeners. What is happening?

[DJ Envy]

Good morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How are you doing? So good, man. Oh my God. It's the holiday season too. Don't get it twisted. Guess what? It's the holiday season. Oh yeah.

[Mark Delicato]

Holiday season.

[Ana Ortiz]

Absolutely.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's been the holiday season. Been the holiday season since October.

[Mark Delicato]

Nice.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You Got Labor Day.

[Mark Delicato]

You got some rest?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, yeah, I always get rest.

[Mark Delicato]

No, you don't.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's a lie. No, I ain't like, yo, I don't be staying no social media for no reason.

[Mark Delicato]

Don't project. I ain't saying I'd be staying up scrolling on nothing, but I'm saying it's a difference from when you get like some good, good sleep until you. You had like a couple hours or maybe whatever you went to sleep watching or scrolling and seeing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's not true.

[Mark Delicato]

Spills over into the next morning. How you doing?

[DJ Envy]

I'm good, man. Salute to.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was.

[DJ Envy]

I was up last night. Salute to the New Jersey school board. They had a. A party last night for all the New Jersey. Some of the New Jersey teachers and all the school board. So it was out in Atlantic City last night. I was in Atlantic City. So I just got back a couple hours ago. So salute to all the teachers that were dancing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What the hell they doing partying on a Monday night like they ain't got.

[Mark Delicato]

Stuff to do this morning?

[DJ Envy]

I don't know, but that's when they booked it. So salute to all the teachers and everybody from the school board. We had a great time last night. They were rocking.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You sure? The Willie party. What was the holiday yesterday?

[Mark Delicato]

The Wally.

[DJ Envy]

Maybe it was. I don't know. But yeah, salute to everybody that came out. It was a. Atlantic City's a two hour ride. Two and a half hour ride.

[Mark Delicato]

Yes, I know.

[DJ Envy]

And I'm tired. I bet I'm tired.

[Mark Delicato]

So if your teacher is hungover today. They was in. They were celebrating Diwali and Atlantic City.

[DJ Envy]

I don't know why that's right. But yeah, but they're a little slow this morning. Crazy. Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. I need to know more. Like, why were the teachers out partying last night in Atlantic City?

[DJ Envy]

I don't know, but we had a great time.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We had a good time last night. I'm glad y' all did, man. Happy Diwali.

[DJ Envy]

I don't know if that was what they were celebrating, but yeah, salute to all the teachers. It was the kickoff party, whatever that means. But we had a great time last night. So salute to all the teachers out in Jersey now today. Governor Wes Moore will be joining us this morning.

[Mark Delicato]

That's my cousin.

[DJ Envy]

That's right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He's running for re election of governor of Maryland for 2026. Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

So we're gonna be chopping it up with him and Jeremy Renner, Hawkeye, or the mayor of Kingstown will be joining us.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Season four is Gonna be released this Sunday.

[DJ Envy]

And we're gonna talk to Jeremy Renner, Hawkeye mayor of Kingstown. He's been Hansel and Gretel.

[Mark Delicato]

Remember, he was Gretel or Hansel. Which one is the guy?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Handsome? Nowadays, they could be either one. You don't know who's he?

[DJ Envy]

No.

[Ana Ortiz]

Right.

[DJ Envy]

Jesus. All right, when we come back, we got front page news. Mimi should be joining us.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Mimi is here. What you mean, should be joining us?

[DJ Envy]

You see her?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm looking right at her.

[DJ Envy]

Because usually she's here, she's there, she's everywhere. I didn't see her looking right at her. All right, well, we'll get to that. Next. Don't move. Somebody's phone is ringing like crazy.

[Mark Delicato]

That yours?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's not mine.

[DJ Envy]

Mine is off.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What is this song?

[DJ Envy]

It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page news. Start off with some quick sports. Now, the Blue Jays beat the Mariners 4 3. So you will see in the World Series, the Dodgers versus the Blue Jays.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Man, I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm almost to the point where I'm starting to think God just hates ovo.

[DJ Envy]

Yo, Toronto versus LA is crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Just hates Drake versus Kendrick.

[DJ Envy]

That's craz.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Listen, if Kendrick comes out and performs not like us at the World Series, that would mean that he performed not like us at the super bowl. And a World Series where Toronto is playing la. God just hates Drake, bro.

[Mark Delicato]

God, no, stop.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Don't put God. I'm telling you, God might really just hate ovo. This is crazy. This is too much. This is. At some point, you got to drop your knees and say, God, why has thou forsaken thee? Oh, my goodness. This is crazy.

[DJ Envy]

Now, in NFL Monday Night Football, the Seahawks beat the Texans 27 19. In the Lions beat the Buccaneers 24. 9. What's up, Mimi?

[Mimi Brown]

Good morning, Envy. Charlemagne. Jess, How y' all doing?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Good, babe.

[Mark Delicato]

How are you?

[Mimi Brown]

Good morning.

[Ana Ortiz]

All right.

[Mimi Brown]

Well, we start this morning with important news for families nationwide. The government shut down now in day 21, and the impact is starting to hit home very closely. So in Pennsylvania, food assistance payments are frozen, and millions more across the country could be next. Estate officials say SNAP recipients there will not receive benefits scheduled for November as the Department of Human Services waits for the federal funds to be released. Now recipients, they will be notified once payments do resume. But for now, families are being urged to call 211 or visit Feeding Pennsylvania and PA navigate for immediate help. Now, the state is also reminding residents to keep up with your renewal reports or any changes in income or household size while payments are paused. And Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro says this shutdown is no longer just about a political standoff. It's now having real consequences for everyday Americans. Let's listen to that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

There's a lot of challenges there.

[Governor Wes Moore]

I hope our colleagues in Washington will come together and get this passed. And of course, this is on the heels of the Congress of the United States voting to knock 510,000 Pennsylvanians off of Medicaid and 140,000 off of SNAP in order to give a tax cut.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

For people who don't.

[Governor Wes Moore]

These are people who just need a.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Little bit of extra help to be.

[Governor Wes Moore]

Able to put food on the table for them and, and their families.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's just cruel and unusual punishment, man. The holidays are right around the corner and now folks aren't going to be able to eat. And, you know, for all the individuals out there who like to say, well, why don't they just get a job? Some of these people have jobs, you idiot. Okay, but the cost of living is so high that some people can't afford to, you know, keep a roof over their head and put food on the table. So that's why the SNAP and, you know, the, the, the, the EBT and those benefits, work, WIC and all of that other stuff.

[Mimi Brown]

Absolutely. And Pennsylvania is just the first state to officially halt November payments. It's likely, though it will not be the last. Texas, Colorado, Illinois, Minnesota, Oregon, New York, and West Virginia, they have all warned that their programs could run out of money by October 27, which is less than a week away if this shutdown continues. And as you just mentioned, you know, SNAP, formerly known as Food Stamp Charlemagne, it helps about 42 million Americans. That's roughly one in eight people put food on the table. The U.S. department of Agriculture says it can tap into limited reserve funds, but that won't cover everyone for long. And so meanwhile, the lawmakers, they are still at a shutdown. They're still at a standstill. The Senate, once again, it failed yesterday to reopen the government, marking the 11th time that they have failed to break that stalemate.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So when, when the people shall have nothing more to eat, they will eat the rich. And don't think that rich means people with just excessive amounts of money. It means people who just have a little bit more than you do.

[Mark Delicato]

Absolutely.

[Mimi Brown]

And if you're one of the millions of people waiting on student loan forgiveness, this could finally be the break that you've been hoping for. The Trump administration is quietly restarting debt relief programs that have been frozen for months. A new agreement between the Department of Education and the American Federation of Teachers will allow the government to resume processing loan forgiveness for borrowers and two income based repayment plans, the income contingent repayment plan, or icr, and the payment, the pay as you earn plan. Now, both plans, they let borrowers make smaller payments tied to their income, and any balance left over in about 20 or 25 years can be wiped away. Earlier this year, the Trump administration, they paused forgiveness for those plans, saying they needed to review court filings. And that move, of course, left millions of borrowers in limbo. Not sure if, when or if they'll ever be able to pay off those remaining balances or if those balances will be canceled now under this new deal. Those forgiveness programs will start up again, though. Well, they'll be canceled now, but they will start up again. Both the ICR and pay as you pay as you earn plan, they are set to end in 2028 under President Trump's big, beautiful bill. So they are, they are back on for now, but they will expire again in a couple years because of the big beautiful bill. So they're warning everyone to go ahead and get your paperwork. So just in case you need to pay as much as you can right now before it's set to end again in 2028. So we'll continue to watch that as well.

[DJ Envy]

All right. Thank you, Mimi.

[Ana Ortiz]

All right.

[Mimi Brown]

Well, coming, coming up at 7. A new wave of scams is costing Americans millions and even Congress can't stop it. We'll tell you what it is and how it's probably already affecting you.

[DJ Envy]

All right, everybody else, get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, phone lines are wide open again. 800-585-1051. Call us up. Right now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[Jeremy Renner]

The Breakfast Club.

[DJ Envy]

Wake up, wake up, Wake your ass.

[Governor Wes Moore]

This is your time to get it off your chest.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Whether you're mad or blessed, we want.

[DJ Envy]

To hear from you on the Breakfast Club.

[Jeremy Renner]

Hello?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who's this?

[Ana Ortiz]

Tasha from Jersey.

[DJ Envy]

Hey, Tasha from Jersey. Get it off your chest, Mama.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Mark Delicato]

So first of all, I just want to say I am very blessed to work in the industry that I worked in. However, that SNAP benefit thing is actually going to affect Jersey residents, too. We just got the notification yesterday that they're going to lose benefits as of November 1st. And I am a Case manager that works with survivors of domestic violence. So most of the people I work with don't even have job skills. Like, some of these guys really, you know, married them and kind of, like, kept them in a little bubble, and they don't have any job skills to be able to go out there and get job skills. And I'm helping them get there, but they. They're not there yet, so it's just a bad time.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But, you know, even for the people who have jobs, like, you know, like I said earlier, they making enough money to probably, you know, pay their rent, but they may not have the money for food. And that's where the SNAP benefits and stuff come into play, right?

[Mark Delicato]

Yes. And I am. I will say wholeheartedly, I see that, because I see the payments that, you know, they have to make for rent, and I see how much money they're making, and I'm like, yo, how are you doing it? But I will say, shout out to my job. I can't say the name of the company. I wish I could, but I can't. I don't want people to know, you know, this. This company, because these are survivors of domestic violence, and some of these people are hiding from very scary people. But my job does a very good job at raising money and, you know, like, putting reserves away. And I manage some of the budget for our ladies. So even if they lose their SNAP benefits, I think I got enough gift cards to hold me over until January, so.

[DJ Envy]

Okay, well, thank you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, that's a good idea. You know, that's why I was telling folks, too, man, find a food bank in your area, man. Find a food pantry in your area area, and, you know, donate some. Some money to them if you got it, or donate some food to them if you got it. You know, I work with the food bank nyc.org in Harlem. I'm an ambassador for them, and I work with the Hope center in Charleston, South Carolina. So just find a food bank in your area, man, and. And donate some money, some resources to them because, boy, it's gonna be a cold one. Hello?

[DJ Envy]

Who's this?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Good morning. This is James calling from North Carolina.

[DJ Envy]

James, what up, brother? Get it off your chest.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, man, I think it's about to get real chaotic in this country, man, with these cutting off benefits and people not getting paid and whatnot. Yes, sir. It's about to get rough. We'll get a raw out here, man. Trust me when I tell you. Y' all remember that old analogy that Tupac made decades ago about people outside Singing we are hungry, please let us in. I posted it last night. I posted it last night. Last night. I posted it last night on my Instagram at sea to God. I posted it. Talking about, you know, these SNAP benefits. Absolutely.

[Governor Wes Moore]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Man, I. I hate to see where this is going, but I know it's not going to end up good. And it's not. It hasn't even been a year. Hasn't even been a year, man.

[DJ Envy]

Thank you, brother.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

When the people shall have nothing more to eat, they will eat the rich. Trust me when I tell you. Y' all worried about. Y' all worried about a civil war. It's gonna be a full blown cat class war out here.

[DJ Envy]

That's right. Get it off kid chest. 800-585-1051. If you need the vent, hit us up now. It's the Breakfast Club.

[Jeremy Renner]

Good morning, the Breakfast Club.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's a new day.

[Governor Wes Moore]

This is your time to get it off your chest. Wake. Wake up.

[Ana Ortiz]

Whether you're mad or blessed, it's time.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

To get up and get something. Call up now.

[DJ Envy]

800-585-1051.

[Governor Wes Moore]

We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club.

[DJ Envy]

Hello? Who's this?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, what's up, Envy? What up, Charlemagne? What's up, Genesis? Rick? Peace. Peace, peace. What's going on? Yo, Charlemagne. Yes, sir. Early voting for the mayoral New York City mayoral race starts on Saturday, but we still don't got no good candidates, bro. I mean, between Cuomo and Mandani after coming, Eric Adams is kind of still looking like he's a man because there are no good candidates here. Don't forget Curtis Seawell. He's out there too. And Curtis Lee was there. But let's be real. Curtis feel about not making any waves in New York City. He's a Republican. He's not gonna get any votes, right? But between. I don't know, I really don't know. People's people be liking. He's gonna get votes, but his votes.

[DJ Envy]

Are not going to be substantial for.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Him to win the race.

[DJ Envy]

Single digits. I still, I think, I believe.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, but so was Mandani. Think about it. Don't you hate lesser of two evils politics? Because like, honestly, Mundani has no experience, right? As much as he wants to say that he's going to do things, he can't do them because he needs cooperation from the other side to work anything out. So you can say you're going to do stuff, but you can't do it without the other side. And then Cuomo, I mean, we Already see what Cuomo did as governor.

[Mark Delicato]

Right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He's just going to clear the city up even more.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, New York is in a conundrum right now.

[DJ Envy]

When you speak to a lot of the older people and older individuals, they don't like Madonna because they feel like he doesn't have experience. They said he's never done it before. What experience does he have of being mayor? So that's the major problem with a lot of the older people when it comes to him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And a lot of these things that he says are radical. So it's like. It's extreme, but you need cooperation to do that. Politics is people working together. So, I mean, I don't know what's going to happen for the city for the next couple of years. So you're not. Are you voting? Are you going to vote? Who are you voting for, Rick? I'm going to vote. Of course I'm going to vote. But, like, I'm still up in the air who we're going to vote for. That's.

[DJ Envy]

That's what.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what I'm trying to get off my chest because, I don't know. I'm confused at this point. Got you. Got you. Well, that's a personal decision you got to make.

[DJ Envy]

Thank you, Baba. Yeah, they were also saying that Madonna, he says things and then tries to backtrack a lot of it. He keeps apologizing for the things he said earlier. That was when I was speaking to, like, the older community. That was like, 70 and 70 up. That's what they were saying about him. Hello? Who's this?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

When was you just with the older community? I was with my parents. What's up, Angie?

[Mark Delicato]

What's up, Charlemagne?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I just want to know why. I was envy. Just hanging out with.

[DJ Envy]

My mom's rocking queens.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And they're older, 65 and older, so they were just. Yeah, I just pulled up to the older community. You know what I'm saying? It was DJing for him. You know, Lil Earth One and Fire, Temptations, Little Temptations, Smokey Robinson.

[DJ Envy]

What's wrong with that, Stevie Wonder?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What? Got a wedding to pay for.

[DJ Envy]

I'm DJing everything. I'm just kidding. What's up, mama?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hello.

[DJ Envy]

Who's this?

[Mark Delicato]

Hello, this is Tya.

[Ana Ortiz]

Good morning, y'. All.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Peace, Tanya.

[Mark Delicato]

So I just want to say, whoever.

[Ana Ortiz]

Used the last little bit of my coffee creamer last night at work, I worked first at the hospital. Whoever used my last bit of coffee cream at work, Your mom's a hoe.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn. What hospital? What hospital? You Work at. And where you calling from?

[Ana Ortiz]

I'm calling from Florence, South Carolina. I work at Musc. And someone had the audacity to use my.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's crazy that you even left it there. Was your name on it?

[Ana Ortiz]

No, I should have pissed in it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn.

[DJ Envy]

Wow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Listen, why would you pee in your own coffee cream?

[Mark Delicato]

People do this to her all the time. She not this mad. They just did. This happened before.

[Ana Ortiz]

Yeah, they. They. They're nasty people, and I hate them. Yeah, but their mom's a hoe. I'm on. I'm on the way to get my daughter ready for school this morning, and I'm. I'm so hot about this. I understand.

[DJ Envy]

You should breathe.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Just take.

[Jeremy Renner]

Take a breather.

[Mark Delicato]

I know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I don't know why you hoe shaming people. Mamas like, Damn, mamas can't have a whole face.

[Ana Ortiz]

No, they can't. Not in my world.

[DJ Envy]

All right. You have a good morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's crazy to think about that. Me too. It is a lot of mamas out there that are h. Somebody that is crazy to think about and grandmas and everything. I don't think there's anything wrong with it. I think that everybody should have a whole face.

[Governor Wes Moore]

Okay.

[Mark Delicato]

Yeah, I think everybody do at some point.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That is a very hard thing for people to grasp, though. Like your mama at some point gave some man fellatio a few times.

[Mark Delicato]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I mean?

[DJ Envy]

I don't want to think about that.

[Mark Delicato]

It's not crazy.

[DJ Envy]

I don't think about grandma like that either.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You doing it to somebody, mama? I'm doing it to somebody, mama. You ever think about that?

[DJ Envy]

No.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, Logan, slam your daddy one time just because. Okay. Get it off your chest.

[DJ Envy]

800-585-1051. We ladies. Flora coming up with.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, String bean.

[Ana Ortiz]

Shut up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Shut up.

[Mark Delicato]

Cuz.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That is crazy.

[Ana Ortiz]

You know what? This designer is not going to appreciate your non conflict.

[Jeremy Renner]

What you mean?

[Mark Delicato]

Who is?

[Ana Ortiz]

We'll talk about it when we come back because I got to go get the name right. I want say it wrong.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Black conflict about the okay. Screen Berccoli, though.

[DJ Envy]

He could have said broccoli.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, no.

[Mark Delicato]

It's not even about your.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay. Okay.

[Mark Delicato]

Good morning, y'.

[Governor Wes Moore]

All.

[Ana Ortiz]

Good morning. Yes, we do have the latest alarm coming. Nicki Minaj. She's mad at us again because of the Gucci mane interview. But I don't really feel I understand.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why she mad at us.

[Mark Delicato]

She mad at him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What I do.

[DJ Envy]

What you always do.

[Ana Ortiz]

Blame Charlamagne and Roc Nation. I guess I Don't know.

[DJ Envy]

We.

[Ana Ortiz]

We'll figure it out by the time we come.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What did you do?

[Mark Delicato]

All right, we'll figure it out. That's crazy.

[DJ Envy]

We'll get to it. Next, the Breakfast Club.

[Jeremy Renner]

Good morning, the Breakfast Club.

[Mark Delicato]

Lauren becoming a straight F. She gets.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Them from somebody that knows somebody. She gets the details.

[Ana Ortiz]

I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything and everybody.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She be having the latest on.

[Jeremy Renner]

The.

[Governor Wes Moore]

Latest with Lauren LaRosa.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Sometimes you have facts. Sometimes you have details. Sometimes you have a little bit of everything. Oh, it's the latest on the Breakfast Club.

[Governor Wes Moore]

Talk to me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

LL Cool babe. Big screen bean asparagus showed it. What's happening?

[Ana Ortiz]

Shout out to Harlem's Fashion Row. And this is a black designer. Her name is Andrea. And I will have.

[Mark Delicato]

That's one thing you always do.

[Ana Ortiz]

Black designers.

[Mark Delicato]

A black designer.

[Ana Ortiz]

Especially black women designers. But all across the board. Yeah. Harlem Fashion Row, that they've been hooking you up. We're doing something with Foot Locker. We got a collab. This is a part of it, but y' all will be seeing it on my social, so make sure you guys are following. No, but I'm doing a collab with Foot Locker. I'm doing a collab with Foot Locker, and it's centering around black designers. So she is one of the designers that I'm wearing in the collab that will actually be dropping on my socials today.

[Governor Wes Moore]

Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Kyle agrees.

[Jeremy Renner]

Crazy.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, my God.

[Ana Ortiz]

All right, so let's get to this. Right? So Nicki Minaj is on X right now, and she is sounding off following our interview with Gucci man and Keisha Koer, his wife. And she says, Gucci wife has been trying to be me for years. Been dying for the spotlight for years. She's there to keep Gucci sedated. Gucci hates Deb Empney, who's Rockeflaka's mom. They don't want Deb around me. She's around me now. Charlemagne the fraud, Jay Z's friend and business associate using I heart radio for these disgusting ploys against innocent families. He was around Wendy before her life went to hell. The buck stops here, baby. Bookmark this tweet. Y' all really don't. Do not understand who I really am. Bring it. Let's play. Y' all wanted attention. Let's do it. Then she starts talking to the LAPD about something we have nothing to do with, and she's saying to Republic Records that they need to stand up for her any day now. Then she says you'll regret it. Now I've been going down the rabbit hole.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why did this, why did this happen?

[Ana Ortiz]

So what I believe happened is when we talked to Keisha Kor about what she does to help protect the brand of, you know, Gucci and her as well when he's going through his episodes and I believe that Nicki Minaj is responding to that because it's one or two things. It's either that because she talked about keeping him off of social media and deleting apps and we have that clip. We'll play it in a second. But fans were having a conversation about whether or not Nicki Minaj's husband should be doing that for her. Let's take a listen to what Keisha K or said about the apps and deleting them when she was here. It was really, really bad. It's really sad because you're seeing someone you don't know, they're saying things to you that are disrespectful, so mean.

[Mark Delicato]

And you have to just like, but.

[Ana Ortiz]

I'm not talking to Gucci, who is this person, right? So I felt like, was it like just trying to protect the business that you guys have built While I have assistantly I take his apps off his phone.

[Mark Delicato]

First thing I do, I delete Instagram.

[Ana Ortiz]

I delete everything.

[Mark Delicato]

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[Mimi Brown]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

All I know is what I've been.

[Ana Ortiz]

Told and that's a half truth is.

[Mimi Brown]

A whole lie for almost a decade, the murder of an 18 year old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved until a local homemaker, a journalist and a handful of girls came forward with a story.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm telling you, we know Quincy killed her.

[Mimi Brown]

We know a story that law enforcement used to convict six people and that got the citizen investigator on national tv.

[Governor Wes Moore]

Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky housewife helped give justice to Jessica Curran.

[Mimi Brown]

My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist producer and I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I did not know her and I did not kill her or rape or burn or any of that other stuff that y' all said.

[Mark Delicato]

They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her. They made me say that I poured gas on her.

[Mimi Brown]

From lava for good. This is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal system will go in in order to find someone to blame.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

America, y' all better wake the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns.

[Mimi Brown]

Listen to Graves county in the Bone Valley feed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts and to binge the entire season ad free. Subscribe to Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcasts. In early 1988, federal agents raced to.

[Ana Ortiz]

Track down the gang they suspect of.

[Mimi Brown]

Importing millions of dollars worth of heroin into New York from Asia.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We had 30 agents ready to go.

[Jeremy Renner]

With shotguns and rifles and you name it.

[Mimi Brown]

But what they find is not what they expected.

[Jeremy Renner]

Basically your stay at home moms were picking up these large amounts of heroin. They go, is this your daughter?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I said yes.

[DJ Envy]

They go, oh, you may not see.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Her for like 25 years.

[Mimi Brown]

Caught between a federal investigation and the violent gang who recruited them, the Women must decide who they're willing to protect and who they dare to betray.

[Ana Ortiz]

Pray.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Once I saw the gun, I tried to take his hand and I saw.

[Mark Delicato]

The flash of light.

[Mimi Brown]

Listen to the Chinatown sting on the iHeartRadio app. Apple Podcasts, or anywhere you get your podcasts.

[Ana Ortiz]

Gotta change his password. I'm changing it cuz I don't need the public to know he's having an episode. You realize you'd never know about any.

[Mark Delicato]

Other episodes since September 13th.

[Mimi Brown]

Because I control that.

[Ana Ortiz]

Because you're not going on Instagram, you're not going on Twitter.

[Mimi Brown]

It's deleted.

[Ana Ortiz]

And now, before the episodes come, I catch it. So that's why he hasn't had another one. And how you catch that is he doesn't speak to you. He wants to be left alone. He don't eat.

[Mimi Brown]

He does not sleep.

[Mark Delicato]

Text messages.

[Mimi Brown]

There's a period after each word, and.

[Ana Ortiz]

I'm like, you're going through an episode.

[Mimi Brown]

You're sick.

[Ana Ortiz]

No, I'm not.

[Mark Delicato]

Ain't nothing wrong with me. Why do you think that you're not speaking to me?

[Mimi Brown]

Well, there's nothing to talk about.

[Ana Ortiz]

I said, well, that's not how you.

[Mimi Brown]

Speak to your wife.

[Mark Delicato]

And I'm like, you're sick.

[Ana Ortiz]

And we snap out of it right then. Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So what I got to do is.

[Ana Ortiz]

Sister Minaj, because there's a lot of fans online having a conversation right now following our interview, if whether or not Kenneth, who is Nicki Minaj's husband, should be doing the same for Nicki Minaj, because she's online and there's a lot of things that she's saying, and that wasn't her.

[DJ Envy]

She shot a shot. I mean, was it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No. Forgive me. Why did she come at Keisha? I don't understand. Like, what does that. What did anything Keisha have to say had to do with her?

[Ana Ortiz]

I'm not. Listen, I. At this point, I'm piecing together puzzle. A puzzle, and I don't even know.

[Mark Delicato]

And Nikki is reading with the family.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah.

[Ana Ortiz]

Yes. That's what I think. Now there's a. My second theory here is when we asked this question about artists that came from Gucci camp, not showing him love. Let's take a listen.

[DJ Envy]

I was super embarrassed and hurt by the things I said because, like, I wasn't well then. Right? So then I got locked up. So a lot of those people who I was saying stuff to, they were like, I ain't never. They never gonna mess with me no more.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So even when I got out three.

[DJ Envy]

Years later, I still was like, I apologize to Ross, Drake, Nikki. Like all them people accepting my apology.

[Governor Wes Moore]

They just don't know.

[DJ Envy]

It's like a weight off my shoulders because I had been like. Because I was wrong. Like, Ross hadn't did nothing but help me. And I said something about it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Gucci gets his just do as an iconic figure in hip hop and all the artists he put on.

[DJ Envy]

No, but it ain't.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What would you like to see, Keisha?

[Ana Ortiz]

I would like them, all of them, to acknowledge him. Even if they win an award. Acknowledge him because he gave you the stomping ground.

[DJ Envy]

Most people don't know Nicki Minaj came out of that camp. French Montana came out. Most people don't know half those people we know. But most people don't know that Migos thug. Migos Thug.

[Ana Ortiz]

Like most people because they don't say it. Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm still so confused.

[Ana Ortiz]

Listen, I'm just piecing together what I think.

[DJ Envy]

That was the only time her name was even mentioned.

[Ana Ortiz]

Those are the only two time. Well, so that was the one time her was. There were two times her name was mentioned in an interview. The other time he talked about. Yeah. Apologizing to her. And then, you know. Yeah. We talk about her coming out of the, you know, Gucci camp. I really don't understand where all of this came from. That's just what I tried to put together.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. Because she can't be upset that we had Gucci and Keshawn here to have a much needed conversation about Gucci dealing with his mental illness. Right. Like Gucci, a man who has been clinically diagnosed with bipolar and schizophrenia, a man who is on medication. Him and Keisha are up here telling their story that will help millions of people like Nikki couldn't possibly be mad about that. Right.

[Mark Delicato]

But I do agree with whatever you saw in the comments of. Of Kenneth need to be doing the same thing. He should be doing the same thing for his wife that Keisha K. Or did for her husband. Absolutely. Everybody, I mean, everybody should have a person who is going to help them when they hitting rock bottom or you know what I'm saying? Everybody should have Akisha K. Or who's going through, you know, having mental episodes.

[DJ Envy]

And I will.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I will always say too now she gonna call you just with the whatever.

[Mark Delicato]

Gives a hot God damn. And I'm gonna be here to drag him again.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But that's the thing.

[Mark Delicato]

That's what I'm saying. Everybody needs support in that way. You know what I mean?

[Ana Ortiz]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

But they always say when people at Their lowest. And they're actually trying to help people. People will try to attack that. And that's what Gucci did with this book. He's actually really trying to help people that's going through and having problems with it, and because of that, sometimes he's gonna get attacked.

[Ana Ortiz]

I know people who are really big barbs. Like, they follow her every move. And I woke up this morning, like, and they were texting me, like, what did y' all do? What happened? They were confused as well.

[Mark Delicato]

The barbs was you?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I have a couple friends. The fact that Barb got your numbers.

[Ana Ortiz]

Well, I have a couple friends who were my friends before I knew that they were the barbs, you know, but now I know in recent. In light of events, they. Around my age, but they stand for her.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, the irony of her replying to that interview, though, I would actually like Nikki to watch that interview or someone around Nikki to watch that interview and maybe, just maybe get Nikki the help she needs. I'm sending Nicki Minaj healing energy. I'm praying for her. I truly hope she heal because that sister is hurting.

[Ana Ortiz]

Yeah.

[Jeremy Renner]

But the.

[Mark Delicato]

The first. The first step of it is realizing you got a problem. If she don't feel like nothing wrong with her, then what. You know what I mean? Because she probably feel like ain't nothing wrong with her.

[Ana Ortiz]

Yeah.

[Mark Delicato]

When you don't. When you're not aware, when you feel like ain't nothing wrong with you, it's hard for somebody to even help you anyway.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And that's the beauty of Gucci Man's book. When you read Gucci Man's book and you see that a lot of the. The erratic things he used to do, the crazy tweets that came out of nowhere, those were all him having manic episodes.

[Ana Ortiz]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like.

[DJ Envy]

And also. And also what Gucci said was getting people around him that were there to help him.

[Mark Delicato]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

He said there were a lot of people there that were making his situation worse, almost encouraging it. You know, I mean, so to get those people away from him was probably one of the first steps that he did.

[Ana Ortiz]

Y. Yeah. Well, Keisha K. Or posted in a more positive light yesterday and just said that there were so many people who were flooding her DMS that, you know, either were being a caretaker or a loved one of someone going through those things or going through it themselves. And she says that, you know, she felt the impact from the Breakfast Club interview. So many people reached out, and she actually posted a link on all things kishakore.com and she says that you can click on this session to discuss mental health for yourself or loved ones. So she's trying to help people as well now too. In addition, so shout out to Keisha K. Wearing Gucci on everything. You know that's happening.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Also, I love being the boogeyman. I really do. I have no problem being. What did you do?

[DJ Envy]

He always does.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I just show up.

[DJ Envy]

That's enough.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I promise you, if you think I'm the Illuminati now. Oh, God. You just wait. Oh, you just wait.

[Ana Ortiz]

You about to get a casino.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

God gonna show y' all something. Oh, my God. Oh, you just wait.

[DJ Envy]

All right.

[Ana Ortiz]

Okay.

[DJ Envy]

That is the latest.

[Mark Delicato]

Okay.

[DJ Envy]

Sound like you laugh at Michael Jackson like that. That was the last Michael Jackson.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It is around that time, ain't it? Yes, it is. Put on some Thriller right now. God damn it. It's that season, Red.

[Governor Wes Moore]

Put Thriller on one time.

[DJ Envy]

That is the latest alarm. When we come back, we got front page news.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What's wrong with you, man?

[Ana Ortiz]

Oh, happy anniversary to Nicki Minaj and Kenneth. It's her anniversary.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Happy anniversary. Yeah, Happy anniversary, brother.

[DJ Envy]

It's the Breakfast.

[Mark Delicato]

Oh, it's Judge Judy birthday. How about that something? Hell yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You're checking out the Breakfast Club.

[DJ Envy]

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get back in some front page news. Let's start off with some sports. Now, last night the Toronto Blue Jays beat the Mariners four to three. So you know what that means. The Dodgers versus Toronto Blue Jays in the 2025 Major League Baseball world.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What did OVO do to God? I'm not like. You gotta really think about this, man.

[Ana Ortiz]

You didn't win yet.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Don't. It don't matter about winning. It's just the fact that, you know, Toronto and LA are going to be in the World Series. You know, Kendrick coming out there to perform not like us at one of those games. He's performed not like us at the super bowl and at the World Series versus A Toronto versus A the LA Dodgers. Why does God not like O.

[Mark Delicato]

That is not true.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This is crazy. This is crazy.

[Mark Delicato]

Jesus, pumping it up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Beat it.

[DJ Envy]

I think I. Yeah. And I think that's the one where Kendrick don't need no price. If he on tour, he gonna come back. He just gotta do it just one time.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Remember when Ice Cube came out to perform last year and Fat Joe came for the year? You think Kendrick not coming out to do not like us while the Toronto Blue Jays play the Los Angeles Dodgers. Baka you Gotta repent like Chubb. Gotta repent, Drake. Gotta repent. What did Obo do to God? What is going on, man? What is happening?

[DJ Envy]

All right, well, there's some football news. The Seahawks make it Texans 27:19. And the Lions beat the Buccaneers 24:9. What's up, Mimi?

[Mimi Brown]

Good morning, Envy. Jeff Charlemagne. How y' all doing, girl? Good morning.

[DJ Envy]

All right.

[Mimi Brown]

Well, we start this hour in Atlanta where authorities say a potential tragedy was stopped before it began. A police arrested a man accused of threatening to open fire inside the world's busiest airport. Now, police say 49 year old Billy Cagle of Cartersville, Georgia was taken into custody yesterday at the Atlanta airport Airport. Investigators say Cagle had posted on social media that he was heading to the airport to, quote, shoot it up. His family saw the post and immediately called the police. They then alerted Atlanta officers. When officers spotted him inside the south terminal, they say he appeared to be scoping out the TSA check in area that police body cam video captured. What happened next? The moment officers moved in. Let's listen to some of that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Are you, what are your, what are.

[Mimi Brown]

Your reasons at the airport right now?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, I'm just here.

[Mark Delicato]

What I heard. What kind of car you drive? Huh? What kind of car do you drive?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I got dropped off. You got dropped off?

[Jeremy Renner]

Okay.

[Mimi Brown]

We just looking.

[Mark Delicato]

We just have a situation going on.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, okay.

[Ana Ortiz]

All right.

[Mark Delicato]

We have hands.

[Governor Wes Moore]

Put your hands behind your back, sir. Put your hands behind your back.

[DJ Envy]

I don't like that. They should have locked him up a lot sooner than that. His family called, said he was going to shoot up the airport. He at the airport? There's a truck outside. Put him in cups first. But I'm glad they stopped it, though.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. And thank you. I thank God that, you know, some people are stupid enough to forecast their crimes on social media.

[Mark Delicato]

Dumb.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Thank you.

[Mimi Brown]

And then investigators, they went out to that truck Envy, and they found inside an AR15 rifle with 27 rounds of ammunition.

[Mark Delicato]

Damn.

[Mimi Brown]

They believe that he was heading to back into the airport to retrieve that gun the moment he was stopped. Now, the FBI, Homeland Security, they are now assisting in the investigation. Atlanta's mayor, he called it a crisis averted and he thanked officers and Cagle's family for turning him in. Cagle, he is a convicted felon with a history of mental health challenges. He's now facing terroristic threats and attempted aggravated assault charges, among many other things.

[Mark Delicato]

That's crazy. He has a history of mental health and he obviously never got any help for it. And let's see what comes of it now.

[Governor Wes Moore]

Yeah.

[Mimi Brown]

Well, if your favorite app wasn't working properly yesterday, it's probably because of that massive outage at Amazon Web Services. Dozens of popular apps and websites, from Snapchat to Spotify to Amazon, DoorDash, Netflix, Starbucks. Yep, Starbucks. A host of websites went down yesterday. The cloud computing system that quietly powers a huge chunk of the Internet. Internet running everything from your favorite shopping apps to airline systems to financial platforms, they all went down. That's according to Down Detector. They say the problem started about 3:00am yesterday Eastern Time, with reports flooding in from users who couldn't log on, make purchases, or even stream their favorite shows. Now, the outage, it caused ripple effects among different industries. From airline, they were reporting flight delays. Some people couldn't access their banking and payment apps. Clearly, some people couldn't go to Starbucks. There was a lot happening. And then they said that. The experts say that a lot of money was lost, including billions. That this is. This disruption could cost billions of dollars in lost productivity. Experts warn the outage, though, could expose a deeper issue. Just how dependent our lives have become on the Internet and how a brief glitch can fracture systems that we rely on every single day. And lastly, now to a serious problem that is affecting everyday people just trying to live, including myself. I'm talking about robocalls. You guys get a lot of robocalls?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hell, yeah, man.

[Mark Delicato]

What is that?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I get robocalls.

[DJ Envy]

Robo's calling you and texting you. Just saying hello, or they're just calling you and it just.

[Mark Delicato]

Oh, my God. For years.

[Mimi Brown]

Yes, yes, yes. Well, a new report says Americans are getting hit harder than ever. A new consumer watchdog report finds that robocall and scam tax are exploding across the country, hitting tens of millions of Americans every single day. The report says that Americans receive, get this, y', all, 2.5 billion robocalls a month. So that's even. That's the largest it's been ever. They say that scam texts are even bigger, with 19 billion calls or texts a month. Now, these scams, they come in many forms. Fake IRS calls, bogus bank alerts, phony delivery calls, you name it. They said that they are getting so sophisticated. Experts say that the scammers love this because it's cheap to send and the payoff can be huge. And now with AI, they're getting even more smarter, Cloning voices and crafting messages that sound even more real than ever.

[Mark Delicato]

Yes, the voice notes. Girl, some of the voicemails definitely sound like, like, people I know they calling from, like Baltimore area codes and things like that. And then also they'll text you, they'll even text your phone.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, I got one Sunday night, somebody texted me and said, thank you for always for me. You're truly the best. So I said, who is this? And then the person said my wife's name and said, I'm Nicole. This is my work number. Don't tell me you didn't save it yet. I said, you have the wrong number. And then I immediately tell my wife, hey man, it's something. And my wife was like, my wife is the one who told me it was a robocall. She was like, stop texting that number back. That's one of them robo texts. I'm like, I'm, you know, I'm just trying to, you know, make sure I'm some woman texted me talking about blah, blah, blah. Then the lady gonna say, oops, sorry for the confusion. I just realized I sent that message to the wrong number. It wasn't meant for you. My apologies for the mix up and I hope I didn't cause any, any inc. Convenience. Then they said your number drifted into my thoughts like a leaf on still water. Maybe it was a mistake or maybe just an echo of something yet to be spoken. If you're open to it, I'd love to share a few words with you. Maybe we could become good friends.

[Mark Delicato]

That is AI. All day drifted, drifted.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

If you have time, let's talk calmly and share a little bit about ourselves.

[Mark Delicato]

See?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Got the number. It's a 778 number.

[Mark Delicato]

That's how artificial intelligence be talking to you. That's how they get you. Because then it makes you want to tell them more and more.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Not me.

[Mark Delicato]

Me. Well, not you. But I'm saying like those certain people who talk to that that's a chat GPT generated absolutely response right there. That's crazy.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah, it is out of control Congress, they tried to crack down on it in 2019. They, they wanted phone companies to install software. But to this day less than half have even installed the software. And so it is just getting out of hand. So experts say the best way to protect yourself, y', all is to not answer numbers you don't know. Never click on random text. And if something feels off, it probably is.

[Mark Delicato]

And don't click them. Links, they send you links sometimes too. Don't click them because then they can access your icloud or whatever.

[Mimi Brown]

Do not get all the details to your phone. All right, well, that is your front page news. I'm Mimi Brown. Follow me at Mimi Brown tv. For more stories, follow Black Information Network, Download the free iHeartRadio app or visit binnews.com.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Thank you, Mimi.

[DJ Envy]

Thank you, Mimi.

[Ana Ortiz]

Me.

[Mark Delicato]

All right, boo.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right.

[DJ Envy]

When we come back, we have the governor of Merlin. Did I say that right?

[Ana Ortiz]

Merlin.

[Mark Delicato]

You said it right.

[DJ Envy]

That's right. Westmore will be joining us. We're gonna talk to him next, so don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Jess. Hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, indeed.

[DJ Envy]

This morning, we got your governor. Jess, you already know Governor of Maryland, Governor Westmore.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Welcome. It's good to be back.

[Governor Wes Moore]

Back with my favorite constituent.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What's up, Jess?

[Mark Delicato]

What's up? How you doing?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Y' all might be related. Y' all got the same last name.

[Governor Wes Moore]

I'm saying. Yeah, that's cousin.

[Ana Ortiz]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

If it's not, you should say it is.

[Mark Delicato]

I always do. I always say it.

[Jeremy Renner]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Makes sense.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's my cousin.

[Mark Delicato]

And everybody loves Governor Westmore.

[Governor Wes Moore]

Oh, yeah. You can go ahead. Period.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You ain't never asked for no partner.

[Mark Delicato]

I didn't. That was the conversation after this interview expunged some stuff on me.

[DJ Envy]

How are you feeling?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

First and foremost, I'm feeling great, man.

[Governor Wes Moore]

Everything's great. Everything. Honestly, everything's good. It's like, you know, I say this, thank God we're in Maryland, you know, because I see everything that's going on around the country, and I see the. The fear, the frustration, and I see, like, Maryland's just moving different. Maryland's taking care of each other there. There's no state that's taking it on the chin from this Trump administration like Maryland has. I mean, like, people forget before. Before this ridiculous federal government shutdown, Donald Trump had already fired over 15,000 Marylanders.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right.

[Governor Wes Moore]

Who are federal workers. Pulled grants. I mean, you know, restricted any type of aid to our folks over in Western Maryland, despite having historic floods, literally. When we put in for federal disaster relief, which we qualified for, they literally sent a message back saying, support for Maryland is not warranted.

[DJ Envy]

Wow.

[Governor Wes Moore]

That's it.

[Mark Delicato]

So.

[Governor Wes Moore]

But despite all that, we have some of the fastest job growth rates inside the entire country, one of the lowest unemployment rates in the entire country. We're making sure we're taking care of our fertile workers. We're making sure we're uplifting our community. So listen, thank God we're in Maryland.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I use Maryland as an example all the time because I remember I was at my daughter's cheerleading tournament back in, like, February. And the amount of people who were walking up to me who were concerned that they were either going to lose their jobs or they already had lost their jobs because of dope was insane. So I can imagine what you get.

[Governor Wes Moore]

And Charlie, it's crazy because, like, who are we talking about? We're talking about people who do things like make sure that our food is safe.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right?

[Governor Wes Moore]

Make sure that our critical infrastructure is protected. Make sure that veterans like myself who come back home and who need medication, that they're getting their medication. That's who they're choosing to go after first. And so looking at this assault that we have had on our. On our federal work workers, and again, now we're talking about the only way that you're going to reopen a government is by cutting people off. Health care, raising premiums by 95%. Healthcare is already too expensive. And now you're talking about raising premiums by 95% for folks like, this is crazy what's going on. And so Maryland, you know, in many ways, Maryland really does take it and have to take it. Like, these are not indirect blows. These are direct shots at me and direct shots at us, we get. But the thing that we're really focusing on is how can we make sure we're protecting our people and really diversifying our economy so we're not. We don't have to be as reliant on. On Washington, D.C. or who sits in an oval office.

[DJ Envy]

Break it down. Like, how are you getting through it? Because there's governors and mayors that are having a hard time, but Maryland is making it through. So how is Maryland making it through? How are, you know, people finding jobs? How are people paying rent and car notes and putting food on their table?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How.

[DJ Envy]

How are you guys doing, doing it?

[Governor Wes Moore]

Well, one is, I think our folks realize, is that we're not bending the need of nobody, anybody who's sitting there saying, well, if you just be quiet, they'll stop. Or if you don't. If you don't push back, I'm like, listen. I don't know. A situation where it's like, listen, if you just be quiet, they'll stop beating you. Like, that's never happens. No, never. And so the thing that we're doing, we're just being. We're being aggressive about what it means to protect our people. So, for example, with our federal workers, workers, we've made sure that there are pipelines for our federal workers to be able to get available and essential state jobs or private sector jobs. We started something called feds to EDs where we knew that Maryland as well as many other states has a teacher shortage right now. So I'm saying if I got someone who's working for the federal government who is interested and qualified, get them certified, get them trained, get them in a classroom as quickly as possible so we can both address the teacher shortage as well as making sure that they're getting employment. That alone we've now seen since I've been the governor. We have, we have closed that teacher shortage. We have by 25%. And a lot of that is because of these federal workers who are now coming on board. We have federal workers who they are forcing to go to work, which is. This is crazy. There are federal workers that are forcing go to work and not paying them. So we got folks in Maryland who are working and not getting paid. We got politicians in Washington who are paid and not working.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right?

[Governor Wes Moore]

And so.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And we still got to pay taxes and we still got to pay taxes.

[Governor Wes Moore]

On them while they're not doing anything. Right. And so for the, for, for federal workers who are now forced to go to work and they're taking public transportation, they're paying for public transportation despite not getting paycheck. So what did I do? I said for all public transportation for federal workers. It's free.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wow.

[Governor Wes Moore]

It's free. Just show your federal government pass and you're good.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wow.

[Governor Wes Moore]

So it's like. So we are making sure we're being aggressive. We were said where as long as we can, we're going to cover down on Medicare, snap, wic, despite the fact that the federal government is now cutting it off from our states. I'm saying that in the state of Maryland, we're going to make sure that our people are protected and our people are taken care of. So I tell our folks, man, while Washington is telling this country, you're on your own in Maryland. We tell our people, we leave no one behind.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I wanted to ask you about the no Kings protest that were happening this weekend. In your view, what does the level of turnout say about, about public sentiment toward executive power in America today?

[Governor Wes Moore]

Well, I tell you, one of the things I was really taken by, it's not even just the numbers, it's the where. Some of the biggest no Kings turnouts that we had in our state were in rural parts of our state, conservative parts of our state. And I think about it this way, man, where it's like, for example, when we just announced our reelection two weeks ago, some of the first people that came out and endorsed us were actually Republican lawmakers, Republican lawmakers in Western Maryland, because they were like, at a time, and these are places that voted for Donald Trump by 75, 77, 78%. And. But they were like, but listen, in our time of need, the governor showed up. We were some of the first boots on ground when they had historic flooding out in western Maryland. The president nowhere to be found. That we actually invested millions of dollars to make sure that they can get furnaces. Because I'm telling you right now, we're talking about some of the coldest parts of our state and people who do not have furnaces, people will lose their lives. This winter. We put in millions of dollars from the state to make sure they're good. The president support for Maryland is not.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Warranted because of you.

[Governor Wes Moore]

Exactly. I know, I know. My bad, y'.

[Ana Ortiz]

All.

[Governor Wes Moore]

My bad.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But it's like.

[Governor Wes Moore]

But, but the point is, it's like, so when you're going out there and you're seeing no king's protests, when you're seeing them, like, listen, this is. Is this about, you know, is this about rule of law? Yeah, it's about rule of law. Is it about. You came in and you say you make things more affordable. And we said how energy prices have risen by 20% since he's been the president, that these tariffs are making everything from the clothes that we're wearing to the food that we're. The food that we're eating more expensive.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Governor Wes Moore]

But you know what it's also about? You keep breaking your promises, man. Everything you said that you were going to do, they are now waking up and realizing he never cared about you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right. He promised economic change on day one.

[Governor Wes Moore]

For him, it happened. He's had great economic change. He has been. I tell you, the two greatest beneficiaries of the Trump administration so far have been the Trump family and China. The Trump family and China have had a great streak for the past 10 months.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why China? Because it seemed like they've been. They've had, like, issues.

[Governor Wes Moore]

Because when American leadership pulls back, who is helping to fill up the vacuum?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Got you that.

[Governor Wes Moore]

Oftentimes when you're talking about our foreign policy, this. This really is a larger battle between the US And China. China being one of the fastest growing economies over a period of the past 20 years. China being a country that has always pushed and reflected and said, like, we want to make sure that we're having our proper respect, and the United States, who in many ways is kind of like this upstart you know, they're like the startup in the globe. You know, we're about to celebrate 250 years. China's like 250 years like that, that's, that's, that's a blink of an eye when it comes to Chinese history. But also look at what has now happened as the US has pulled away from things like foreign aid and support and everywhere from Africa to South America. Who's helped to fill in that building back? China. Yeah, right. Who was helped to come in when we're having conversations about, about, about new resources and energy supports. Right. And coming up with long term energy supplies. When you have the Trump administration who's pulling away from increasing energy supplies, which by the way, is making energy prices more expensive on everybody, I believe that we should be investing in solar and wind and nuclear and all the energy technologies that can help to make energy prices more affordable. Because when you increase supply, you then can be able to decrease costs. Donald Trump is simply saying, like, nah, we're not doing any of that stuff. You know, that's going to do it continues to drive energy prices up. Do you know who is investing in those new technologies? China. So listen, the Trump family in China have done very, very well over the past 10 months. The average American family, not so much.

[DJ Envy]

We had a bunch of candidates up here, mayoral candidates from New York and governors from Jersey, and everybody talks about their relationship or wanting to work with Trump. Is that even an option with you?

[Governor Wes Moore]

Listen, I'm very clear, man. I will work with anyone. I will just bow down to no one. I'm not built that way.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, I'm always going to fight for.

[Governor Wes Moore]

My, like, the people of my state, they understand. Like, like I'm not. I don't come from a political world. I don't come from a political family. I don't come from a political background. I'm a social soldier. That's who I am. That's how I'm built. And so if someone is trying to do something that's going to benefit the people of my state, if someone's trying to do something that's going to benefit my community and my people, then I'm always interested in being able to find ways of working together, so on and so forth. The problem is I have seen nothing from this administration that shows there's an interest in that. I have seen nothing but shots at us. I've seen nothing but talk about how you're going to send national Guards into my community. I've seen nothing but them turning down federal aid and federal supports that is justified and necessary for the people of my state. I've seen nothing but them using them except using the Constitution like it's a suggestion box. So you know, if you want to have a real conversation about being able to help the people of Maryland and lift us up and continue the trajectory that we've been on since my administration has come on board, I'm always down to have that conversation.

[DJ Envy]

As a former soldier, talk about the negative things about having soldiers put into the community.

[Governor Wes Moore]

There are so many problems with this and it's so deeply performative. And here's the thing that gets me on a couple fronts. If he wants to have a real conversation about making our community safer, I'm here for that. I'm been very clear. There is no higher priority for me than making sure that our communities are safe. I think about what's happened in Maryland. In Maryland, for the eight years before I became the governor Governor we saw the homicide rate nearly double. The non fatal shooting rate did double Baltimore City. The year before I became the governor In 2022, we had almost a homicide a day. And so when we came on board, I said I am not going to be a governor that's going to sit there and give eulogies and give thoughts and prayers and not do a damn thing about actually making our community safer. So what do we do? I started working with Mayor Scott. I started working with local. Sorry, Mayor Scott, Mayor of Baltimore. I started working with local law enforcement. I started working with counties.

[Mark Delicato]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

All I know is what I've been.

[Ana Ortiz]

Told and that's a half truth is a whole lie.

[Mimi Brown]

For almost a decade, the murder of an 18 year old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved until a local homemaker, a journalist and a handful of girls came forward with a story.

[Ana Ortiz]

I'm telling you, we know Quincy killed her.

[Mimi Brown]

We know a story that law enforcement used to convict six people and that got the citizen investigator on national tv.

[Governor Wes Moore]

Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky housewife helped give justice to Jessica Curran.

[Mimi Brown]

My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist producer and I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I did not know her and I did not kill her or rape or.

[Jeremy Renner]

Burn or any of that other stuff.

[Mark Delicato]

That y' all said. They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her. They made me say that I poured gas on her.

[Mimi Brown]

From Lava for good. This is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Blame America. Y' all better wake the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns.

[Mimi Brown]

Listen to Graves county in the Bone Valley feed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and to binge the entire season ad free. Subscribe to Lava for Good plus on Apple podcast.

[Ana Ortiz]

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[Mimi Brown]

Cause it can be such a struggle.

[Governor Wes Moore]

For our quality of life. But even if it's natural, why should.

[Ana Ortiz]

We suffer through it?

[Mimi Brown]

The types of symptoms that people talk about is forgetting everything. I never used to forget things. They're concerned that one, they have dementia and the other one is do I have adhd?

[Ana Ortiz]

There is unprecedented promise with regard to cannabis and cannabinoids to sleep better, to.

[Mimi Brown]

Have less pain, to have better mood.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And also to have better day to day life.

[Ana Ortiz]

Listen to Decoding Women's Health with Dr. Elizabeth Poynter on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you're listening now.

[Governor Wes Moore]

It is around the state I started actually we made historic investments in predictive analytics and technologies and community violence intervention groups, community violence interruption groups. And the results have been this. In the past two and a half years, we have seen how Maryland has had amongst the fastest drop drops in violent crime anywhere in the United States of America. Amongst the fastest drops in property crime anywhere in the United States of America. The homicide rates in the state of Maryland since I've been the governor are down nearly 25% that we have seen in Baltimore City. The last time the homicide rate was this low in Baltimore City, I wasn't born yet.

[DJ Envy]

Wow.

[Governor Wes Moore]

That's the kind of drops we've seen. And now despite that, the President's talk about how we have children who are natural born killers and he's now going to send the National Guard in our community. I'm like, first of all, your 1980s Archie Bunker mentality mindset is not going to fly because it goes against all data that's actually happening and the momentum we're actually seeing. But the other thing about it is this, man, it's that like, I know what it's like for these soldiers. I know what it's like to put on the uniform. I know what it's like to say goodbye to your family. I deployed, I led soldiers overseas in Afghanistan. Afghanistan. And so for him to continue to have this fetish of military uniforms like it's a child, where he's going to ask these men and women to do something that he was never willing to do, say goodbye to your family, and to go to deploy and to do operations and missions that a they, you know, municipal policing is not something our National Guards are trained for. I'm the commander in chief of the Maryland National Guard. I know my guys are trained for. That's not one of them. And I also know that if you look at what's happening in Washington, D.C. and the deployments that they're having. You know, I can tell you that these National Guards, men and women, these citizen soldiers who are giving up their lives because they trust their commander in chief, have taken more selfies than they've made arrests. They painted more fences and picked up more trash than they've actually done drug busts. So what are we talking about right now? What the president is doing and Hegseth and all these guys? Guys, it is just. It's performative, it's offensive. It's offensive to our communities. It's offensive to these military personnel. It's offensive to their families. Because you're now asking to leave their families and to do what?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And nobody ever ask him, what's the long term solution? That's the long term solution.

[Governor Wes Moore]

Never.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

For crime prevention. Okay, you're doing this now, but what's the long term plan?

[Governor Wes Moore]

If he wants to have a serious conversation? I would love for the President, United States, and I'm not holding my breath on this, to have a serious conversation about policy because, listen, I got tell them, you know what I would love to do? I know for myself and the mayor and our county executives. We'd love to talk to you about banning block switches and the ability to turn these Glocks into automatic weapons. We'd love to have a conversation about banning ghost guns. We'd love to have a conversation with you about additional ATF and FBI resources and supports. I'd love to have a conversation with you about lprs license plate readers, so that can help to actually track down crime. I'd love to have a conversation with you about stop, stop cutting the funding that was coming to our communities for community violence intervention groups that were actually on the ground doing the work. But he's not interested in that. But what he is interested in doing is he'll cut funding for stuff that's actually working, but then ask the American taxpayer to pay over a million dollars a day so they can watch National Guard take selfies.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Are you concerned like when you saw the meeting that, you know, Secretary of War Pete Heckseff and President Trump had with the US Military generals and admirals? Are you concerned that some of those generals and admirals may go along with him and pledge loyalty to him and not the Constitution?

[Governor Wes Moore]

I remember I'm on a bunch of different, like, group chats, things with a lot of military folks who I serve with and people are still in. And I remember getting one from a buddy of mine and he said, listen, I've oftentimes disagreed with the commander in chief, not often am I embarrassed by him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wow.

[Governor Wes Moore]

I'm embarrassed.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wow.

[Governor Wes Moore]

Because there's just a lack of seriousness that he and except are taking on this. There is. You know, and one thing I always say is that, listen, as soldiers, we know our job. We know our oath. We took an oath to the Constitution and always protect and defend people against all enemies of this country, foreign and domestic. And we took an oath that we will would always honor all lawful orders of the President of the United States. The thing that is really challenging for a lot of people right now is this blurring of a line that we are seeing from this White House about what orders are lawful and what orders are not.

[DJ Envy]

How do you look at the judicial system now? Right. You see Trump, people get arrested, and Trump's like, that's my guy. I'm a part of him, and everything he has is wiped off. You know, that's my guy. You ain't got to pay no money back. It's wiped off. It makes me look at it two ways. One, nothing serious. And two, it makes me feel like sometimes when the Democrats have a guy that went down for something, that's maybe not just that we just leave our people hanging, or I should say, they just leave their people hanging.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, we saw that with Marilyn Mosby.

[Governor Wes Moore]

Yeah, 100%.

[DJ Envy]

So how does that make you feel when you look at the judicial system and you look at, you know, somebody that you helped tried to get in office, whether it was Biden on his second term, and then you see how the. They take care of their people.

[Jeremy Renner]

Yeah.

[Governor Wes Moore]

You know, I remember when I first. When I first came in the. I ended up winning with more individual votes than anyone who'd ever run for governor in the history of the state of Maryland, despite literally starting at 1%. Like, I don't come from any political background at all. Only one thing beat me on the ballot that year, and that was cannabis. So I was like, yo, who is cannabis? And how they so popular? But the same time that I was.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, I definitely voted for cannabis.

[Governor Wes Moore]

Absolutely. But the same time that I was. I was elected governor of Maryland. Maryland voted to have a recreational cannabis market. So I said, okay, so we're going to make sure that it's rolled out in a safe and a smooth and equitable way. And at the same time, there is no way that I'm going to celebrate the benefits of legalization if we do not address the consequences of criminalization. So we got to work. Work. And I ended up signing the largest mass pardon in the history of the United States of America. When I pardoned over 175,000 misdemeanor cannabis convictions in the stroke of a pen and saying, like, you know, you cannot, we cannot treat every sentence like a life sentence. Where we got a new billion dollar market in the state of Maryland, but I got people who can't get a barber's license, right? That was how we can utilize the power of the part. Pardon in a way that actually supports the people, in a way that actually helps to right some of these wrongs that have been taking place before. There is, there's a very humble responsibility that I know I take where I'm one of 51 people on the planet that have the ability to pardon, right? All of our state's governors and the president, United States, those the only ones that have the ability to look at somebody and say, we are going to forgive you of the past issue you might have been involved with. We're going to make sure we can clean up your record to make sure we can give you a second chance at life. It's a very unique power. And I think about Donald Trump, man, and the first thing that he did when he got back into office this time was pardon the people on January 6th. There is just so everything that I'm seeing right now, none of it surprises me because the man told you who he was and who he was going to fight for. And so I think that, you know, I'm thankful that we have a legal system in some cases that is helping to hold the line. I'm thankful that we have judges that are actually honoring the law and not bending the knee. Yet at the same time, you know, this, this, this weaponization of our legal system that we continue to see. And frankly, this, you know, this very loose way that he is using the very specific and powerful ability to pardon, I think is more just a continuation of the case.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I got three more questions because I know you got, you want. Okay. How are you handling the pressure you're facing to redistrict Maryland?

[Governor Wes Moore]

Well, I'm very clear. Listen, Maryland, if we have this country and we have Donald Trump, who is picking and choosing which states should redistrict? And people and people remember why we're even having this conversation, Right? The reason, the reason why we're having this conversation is because what issue is Donald Trump going to run on in a midterm elections? I made all your prices higher, right? I fired a bunch of people and driven up the unemployment rate. We've made our communities less safe. But, hey, Vote for me. You're not going to win on that. So what do you do? You change the rules, you rig the game. Frankly, it's a very, it's a simple continuation of what this man has done his entire life. Right. And so my point is this. If Donald Trump is calling individual states and individual Republican states and saying, I need you to find me a congressperson here, I need you to do this, I need you to find me a fair map, then my point is this. If all these states are going to have conversations about do they have a fair map, so will Maryland.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You have to, you got to fight, fight with fire. Former Vice President Kamala Harris said it last week. You got to fight fire with qualified.

[Governor Wes Moore]

If these states are going to talk about do they have a fair map, then you know what Maryland needs to decide, do we have a fair map too?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right.

[Governor Wes Moore]

Do we have a fair map? And I can tell you right now, if you look at the, our congressional districts and people talk about, I don't like gerrymanning. I hate gerrymandering. I think it's ridiculous. I think it's ridiculous right now that less than 10% of all congressional seats are actually competitive. The average Congress person ends up winning by like 20, 30, 40 points. So all you got to do is make it past the primary and you're good.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right.

[Governor Wes Moore]

So this entire system is gerrymandered right now. And so if we are going to talk about what does it mean to have fair maps and what does it mean to have systems where people can actually be heard and represented and, and you have people choosing the representatives and not representatives choosing their people, then you know what, add Maryland to that list. Who should have that conversation too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Absolutely. This is my last question. You know, I want you to talk about this because, you know, I saw you get a little flack because, because you vetoed a measure to create a commission to study potential slavery reparations in the state of Maryland. But to me, you had a valid reason. If people actually heard your whole statement. Exactly.

[Governor Wes Moore]

I mean, listen, what I, what I said was, I'm a person of action. I don't need more studies. I mean, like we've done four studies over the past 20 years on similar type of elements.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

One of seven.

[Governor Wes Moore]

So four, four studies over the past 20 years.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, okay.

[Governor Wes Moore]

By the way, one of which my wife works. Worked on. And so when we're now talking about doing a two year study on something that I already know the answer to, I'm like, what are we studying? And this was My point, I think about the work and again, I'm not, I'm not saying that, that this issue was not worth working on. In fact, frankly, I've been working very closely with the members of our caucus and members of the community around a whole series of these issues. It's the reason that we just authorized $400 million for our just Community initiative, which made sure that we're putting $400 million of additional capital into communities that have been, that have been the subject and have been truly hurt by racist and discriminatory policies. Things like redlining, things like mass incarceration, things like, you know, things like mass highway constructions which were cutting off neighborhoods that we said we are going to identify all those communities and neighborhoods and we're starting off with just $400 million dollars that's going specifically to those neighborhoods to address the racist policies of the past. It's the reason that we've done things like historic investments in our HBCUs because they've been historically neglected and pulled back on. Maryland has four remarkable HBCUs. We're putting historic investments back into them. It's the reason we've done things like the mass pardons and giving people a second chance at life. Because who does, who do people think that that is going to benefit most? It's the reason that we've done things like procurement reform and created black millionaires inside of the state of Maryland. I am unapologetic about the support for our black community, for, the support for. The support for, for, for black people who oftentimes have been the fabric and the backbone for so much of our society. And I know right now, when we are watching this assault, this assault on our communities, when we're watching, you know, the Trump administration now is fire and defying more black women than we have seen in a generation. That we have now seen our insurance being pulled away, grants going to entrepreneurs that everything that is connected to diversity, equity, inclusion that they are making illegal. We don't need a two year study right now, man. I need action. I need action. And so that was the point that we were trying to make, is that in this time, in this crisis moment, I don't need a study.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let's get to it.

[Governor Wes Moore]

Let's get to it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Absolutely.

[DJ Envy]

That's right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right, Absolutely.

[Governor Wes Moore]

Let's get on with it.

[DJ Envy]

We appreciate you for joining us running for re election in 2026.

[Mark Delicato]

My cousin.

[DJ Envy]

Governor Westmore. Thank you for joining us, brother.

[Governor Wes Moore]

Appreciate y'.

[Mark Delicato]

All.

[Governor Wes Moore]

Thank you.

[DJ Envy]

Club. Good morning. Let's get to the latest with Lauren.

[Mark Delicato]

Lauren becoming a straight F. She gets.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Them from somebody that knows somebody, somebody. She gets the details.

[Ana Ortiz]

I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about every family.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And everybody be having the latest on you.

[Governor Wes Moore]

The Latest with Lauren LaRosa.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Sometimes you have facts, sometimes you have details, sometimes you have a little bit every on the Breakfast Club.

[Ana Ortiz]

So Diddy may be pardoned this week. This news comes from a high ranking White House official. It's an alleged report. I reached out and didn't get any response. True or not true on this. So I don't know, you know, know where that leaves us. But according to a high ranking White House official, they told TMZ that Trump is considering commuting Diddy's sentence as early as this week. Now, according to this source, Trump is going back and forth on this and there are some White House staff that are saying, don't do it. Leave it alone. He wasn't supporting you. But the source made it clear Trump is going to do what he wants. So it can happen as early as this week. Now, y' all remember when there was, you know, some of Diddy's attorneys that were doing interviews and saying that they were having conversations with Trump, and then they came back out and said they weren't having the conversations. So this, this source is saying that even when all that back and forth was happening, there were really conversations going on. And the day after Diddy was sentenced, the conversation started again. And that was the same week that Trump, remember that clip of him went viral when he said the Diddy just act for a pardon.

[Governor Wes Moore]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Or.

[Ana Ortiz]

Yeah. So, you know, all that is happening. So, you know, Diddy has served, you know, 13 months at this point. He, he was sentenced to four years and two months. But if this happens, none of that will matter. So we will have to wait to see what happens.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And you gonna come home and be, you know, you gotta come home and be Trump's hoe now.

[Ana Ortiz]

Oh, my God. 100%.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

When they do that UFC fight on the White House lawn, you will be the performance, you will be the live entertainment. You will be shaking ass for Magna.

[Ana Ortiz]

He has to.

[DJ Envy]

But how was this information getting leaked right when Jorge Santos just got pardoned? Nobody knew until it was done. I feel like they keep talking about it and it allows people to shoot.

[Mark Delicato]

It down and it'll be, yeah, it'll be a way to stop it before it happens.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, to be honest with you, they probably might have been talking George Santos getting a part. I just, that's not my algorithm.

[Ana Ortiz]

And to be honest with you, this, this is going to be a great PR thing for Trump. So how do things get leaked? They get leaked when people want you to know what might be happening. You know what I'm saying? Now, at the same time as this news came, like, literally right before this news broke, there was a notice filed by Diddy's attorney, Alexandra Shapiro, who is in charge of his appeal. And they basically just put the court on notice that in four to six weeks, they're going to be appealing this sentence. So either way, they're like, okay, from what we hear from this source, it's like, either they gonna do what they doing with Trump and he gonna come home, or they're gonna try and appeal it to bring him home as well. And I did ask my source if Diddy is going to be involved in, like, figuring out what the angle of the appeal is and all the things, because he was super involved during the trial. And they said, of course he will be. Of course, but he's in really great hands because she's one of the best attorneys at this in the game.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So they need to do a reality show based on Trump's pardon process. I just want to know, I just want to know how he comes to the conclusions that this individual needs pardons. I just would love to see it.

[Ana Ortiz]

It's probably like a board that he spins.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hilarious. Tick, tick, tick, tick, tick. Hilarious. I just want to see it.

[Ana Ortiz]

Yeah. Well, in other news, Janet Jackson did not make Tupac take an AIDS test before the kissing, singing poet singing Poetic Justice.

[Mark Delicato]

What?

[DJ Envy]

That was a huge rumor.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, in the 1990 now rumor.

[Ana Ortiz]

It came back back up again. So it came back.

[DJ Envy]

It was never cleared up. I, I, I really thought that's what she did. That's what I think a lot of people did.

[Ana Ortiz]

Well, actually, it was cleared up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It was cleared up a bunch of times.

[DJ Envy]

I don't remember.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Tupac talked about it. Janet talked about it.

[Ana Ortiz]

John Singleton talked about it on Drink Champs some years ago.

[Mark Delicato]

I believe this is the first time I ever heard about it.

[Ana Ortiz]

Well, okay, so let's take a listen to what John Singleton said when he cleared it up years ago on Drink Champs, and then I'll get into what the, why it came up again. Let's take a listen.

[Governor Wes Moore]

Is that serious, that whole age thing?

[DJ Envy]

No, that was not serious.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That was a joke that we was.

[DJ Envy]

Having on the set.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The real talk is Tupac was attracted to Janet. I was attracted to Janet. We're both trying to, like, flirt with her and stuff, and I'm like, you know what?

[DJ Envy]

I don't know if I should have.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You kissing on my actress because, you know, you've been around doing all this. Pac was just coming in his own then, right?

[Jeremy Renner]

And I was like, man, I was like, hell, yeah.

[DJ Envy]

You know what?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You're gonna have to do an A's.

[DJ Envy]

Test before y' all do this love scene.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It was a joke. She said that.

[Jeremy Renner]

No, me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, you said it's, you know, it's me solid out my.

[Governor Wes Moore]

On the side right before.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Just like, you know, and then we're like, oh, we should use this. We should put this out. And so that's what we did as a publicity thing.

[Governor Wes Moore]

As a publicity thing, we just did that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Everybody got mad at Janet Jackson about that, but it was just us talking.

[DJ Envy]

On this, on the set and everything like this.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And, you know, it was an inside joke. By the way, that was 2017. I guess we live in an era where you gotta repeat the same thing over and over every 10 years just so people.

[DJ Envy]

So much content. Yeah, I never heard that. So much content.

[Ana Ortiz]

Never heard it. Right. But also too. So there's a new book that just came out. It's called Only God Can Judge Me the Many Lives of Tupac Shakur. And it talks about this in the book. And the author of the books, you know, says that he's spoken to people on the set who recalled that incident. And there's an excerpt that was released to certain outlets which brought this back up. So here we are. Re explaining or rehashing it, but we have it right from John Singleton that it did not happen that. That way. Yeah. So that is it for the latest this morning, guys, for the second hour, I have one more actually, we can do a Congratulations to Taraji, speaking of John Singleton because she just signed a two picture deal with Netflix. Did you guys see that announcement? Yeah.

[Mark Delicato]

I just auditioned for one of Them Rules too.

[Ana Ortiz]

Which one? Oh, well, you probably can't tell me yet, can you?

[Mark Delicato]

Nope. But I. I just auditioned for one.

[Ana Ortiz]

Of Them Rules if that would be a part of her deal. Oh, so they tell you one of the.

[Mark Delicato]

The movies that she doing.

[Ana Ortiz]

That's so cool.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I hope you get it.

[Ana Ortiz]

Yeah, me too.

[Mark Delicato]

I hope I do, too.

[Ana Ortiz]

That's fire. So they tell you like this. This is a part of that. So you knew this news before it was out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, now, no take off to go shoot that movie.

[Ana Ortiz]

I did.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And Lauren filling in. I don't want to see no scoffing. Huh?

[DJ Envy]

What are we talking about?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, my God.

[Governor Wes Moore]

All right.

[DJ Envy]

Thank you for the latest Charlama, we giving your dog.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Michael Jackson need to come to the front of. Michael Jackson need to come to the front of the congregation. We like to have a word with him. And I don't want to hear nothing from you.

[DJ Envy]

Just play earlier.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Michael Jackson needs to come to the front of the congregation.

[Mark Delicato]

How can he come to the front of the congregation?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Good question. Spirit. Okay, you see, Laura, like this we will discuss.

[DJ Envy]

All right, we'll get to that. Next, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

With the donkey.

[DJ Envy]

It's time for Donkey of the Day.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What? Your donkeys around here? Yes, you are a donkey. What the hell? Some donkey. Today's just sell himself.

[Mimi Brown]

Charlemagne.

[DJ Envy]

Give it to him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Breakfast Club all day. Give it to him. Oh, man. Charlemagne, who you giving donkey to do tonight? Well, donkey, Today for Tuesday, October 21, US goes to a southeast Kansas man named Michael Jackson, okay? And not the one who sang Billie Jean. I need y' all to know that, okay? The Crawford County Sheriff's Office made that perfectly clear. They literally said verbatim, not the one who's saying Billie Jean. We are such an unserious people. Okay? Now let me tell y' all something, and I really want y' all to remember this. If you don't listen to another word that ever comes out of Uncle Charlotte's mouth, just please listen to this, okay? Whenever someone tells you, you to not call the cops about something, call the cops about that something, okay? That's just a pretty good rule of thumb to follow. See, what had happened was Michael Jackson stole a 2003 Chevrolet Silverado, and deputies received the call that a man had pulled into a residence and asked the homeowner for gas and to not call the cops. See, this man, Michael Jackson stole the car, didn't have no gas in the car, and then pulled into a random stranger's house. House asking for gas. Michael Jackson. You.

[Governor Wes Moore]

You.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You. You don't know how any of this works, do you? Okay, you think you can just steal a truck, pull up to a random stranger's house for gas, and then moon walk out of the situation like that's normal? Absolutely not. Okay, now let's discuss. All right. When stealing a car, make sure the car got gas in it. Okay? Why the hell would you steal a car that may or may not have enough gas in it? Okay? What if you need to do a quick getaway? What the. If cops are chasing you and you on E. Okay, Michael Jackson, you supposed to be a smooth criminal, okay? Not to mention, why would you stop at Some random stranger's house for gas. Where was Exxon? Where was Wawa? Where was Spinx? Where was Shell? The Michael Jackson I know said, don't stop till you get enough. You had to stop because you needed gas. Y' all are not the same, okay? See, I love people who plan all the way to the end, all right? That's law 29 and the 48 laws of power. Make detailed plans with a clear indic. Think far ahead. Take into account all possible developments. Plan all the way to the end, and don't be swayed by wishful thinking. Then pursue your plans and don't be tempted from your path. See this? Michael Jackson didn't do that. And when you want to be starting something, you have to know how that starting going in. Because the only thing this Michael Jackson got started was a police report. Okay? I just don't understand people sometimes, man. Folks commit crimes so ridiculous that I think they do it on purpose. Okay? Times are hard out here. Housing is not affordable. 42 million people are at risk of losing their food stamps right now. Okay? There are some with no home, not in nickel the loan. Could it be really me pretending that they're not alone? If you don't got nothing else going on in life, maybe jail is a viable option. Okay? Some people don't have no family. Some people don't care about freedom like that. But I. I wish that I could have told Michael Jackson, you are not alone. Okay? You don't have to do this, all right? There is a place for you in this society, but I can't make you believe that. All right? The change you seek starts with you. Yes, the man in the mirror. Michael, I'm asking you to change your petty criminal ways. If you want to make the world a better place, take a look at yourself and then make a change. Please give this southeast Kansas man named Michael Jackson Jackson. The biggest he.

[Mark Delicato]

Yo.

[DJ Envy]

No, he ha. He ha.

[Jeremy Renner]

Just.

[DJ Envy]

Just.

[Mimi Brown]

That's it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's it. You get the biggest he.

[Jeremy Renner]

I just.

[DJ Envy]

I just want to let anybody know that if you steal my car or my wife's car, give yourself a little extra time to go to gas station.

[Mark Delicato]

Like that's.

[DJ Envy]

We ain't never got no gas. For some reason in the cars.

[Governor Wes Moore]

Yo.

[Mark Delicato]

He gave him a he. There we go.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what he's gonna say when they ask him what's his agenda during the intake process. Yes.

[Mark Delicato]

Are you okay? Are you okay? That's so funny.

[DJ Envy]

All right, well, thank you for that donkey of the day, sir. Now, when we come back, Jeremy Renner will be joining us. You know Hawkeye, mayor of Kingston. Hawkeye, Season 4 of Mayor of Kingston will be out out Sunday this Sunday, October 26th. So we're going to talk.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It was Kingstown.

[DJ Envy]

It's Kingston or Kingstown.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Say that you made a white man the mayor. Jamaican mayor of Kingstown.

[Mark Delicato]

Kingstown, also known as Hansel from Hansel and gr.

[DJ Envy]

All right, all right, all right. We'll talk to him next. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning the Breakfast Club. Morning everybody. It's DJ Envy. Jess. Hilarious. Gary Charlamagne, the guy we are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I feel like I know him.

[DJ Envy]

Feel like you know him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, I know Hawkeye, you know what I'm saying? But I'm just saying we've been watching him for like the past 20 years. It feels like.

[DJ Envy]

Jeremy Runner, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome.

[Jeremy Renner]

Hey, how you doing?

[DJ Envy]

How are you feeling, man?

[Jeremy Renner]

Breakfast Club feeling good. Very happy, very blessed to be here.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Mayor of Kingstowne. Season four is coming.

[Jeremy Renner]

That's right, man. That's been a wonderful job.

[DJ Envy]

Job.

[Jeremy Renner]

Yeah, I love it, man. It's. It's pretty exciting. We gotta. Especially this far into the. The series. It's the best season so far. Cuz I think just cuz you know the characters better than season one. Huh?

[DJ Envy]

You said better than season one.

[Jeremy Renner]

Well, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just because the audience will know all the characters. So now we could take all this instead of having a bunch of B and C and D storylines, we could put everybody into the same narrative. So we're, we're all kind of more watching a movie movie type of vibe. So pretty excited about that. There was a lot of amazing characters in the show too. It's pretty diverse.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You, you played everything from blue collar heroes, the conflicted anti heroes. What kind of roles challenge you the most at this stage?

[Jeremy Renner]

Yeah, I think like, like all those. I think, you know, if you play a bad guy, it's got to be something pretty conflicted. You might, you know, where the audience kind of has a great understanding of why he's a bad guy and a good guy, you know, have to have things go wrong for you. Otherwise you know, we don't have a story. Right. So I just look for always complicated characters. I think that's whether the. You ride the line of. I think I've even kind of built a career of like is he a good guy or a bad guy? You're not quite sure. He doesn't worry both or just like every human being on the Planet. There's a lot of good in a lot of us, and then we can do. We could do bad behavior, but can still be a good person. Right. These are all just very human sort of traits and behaviors.

[Ana Ortiz]

So.

[Jeremy Renner]

So I'm kind of attracted to those.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Is it hard to get out of that space when you dive so deep into, like, those moral gray areas, especially like on a show like Kingston?

[Jeremy Renner]

No. Yeah, There's. There's such. You know, like when I put that suit on, there's. There's a certain. There's just an energy to think. Same with. If I suit up for Hawkeye or whatever it might be. There's. It's easy. Once you shed the skin of the. The actual skin, you can really kind of emotionally and psychologically, you know, shed that. You kind of have to. You have to practice that.

[DJ Envy]

No anime.

[Mark Delicato]

How do you see your character, Mike, on the show? Do you see him as superhero, anti hero, something in between?

[Jeremy Renner]

How do you. I don't know. There's. If hero is in there, I think it's. I think there's a moral code to him that's an ethics to him that I'm attracted to, even though it might come with some gray area. Moral gray area as well, being, you know, coming from. From incarceration and. But I think there's something selfless about Mike McCluskey that I'm attracted to. So that does make him more heroic or more good, I think, than. Than bad, even though there are some moral, you know, gray areas with him. But I think the intention behind him is always forthright and being selfless. When you look at.

[DJ Envy]

At how you play the mayor of Kingstowne in this show, and then you look at today's America and some of the things that politics is doing now. How do you compare the same.

[Jeremy Renner]

I think McClusky is kind of needed. You know, we need, I think, someone that can kind of grease the wheels on all sides and all kind of smooth the edges of people. I think there's a lot of divisiveness that kind of goes on and a lot of things that can divide us. And I think what's important. Important is to unite us all.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like.

[Jeremy Renner]

And just like in. In Mayor Kingstown, in that world of. World of incarceration, you know, there's. There's people waiting for people to get out of the prison. There's people waiting to get out of prison. There's some people that work in the prison and. And all. All different levels of incarceration. Now, how that world works, I think there has to be some sort of grease to kind of, you know, unite people in all these different perspectives. Like, I mean, it happens all the time in, in reality life with, you know, just the prison guard life is a very brutal job or just being incarcerated, that's a very brutal sort of place and space to be. I think that this had a really cool documentary that came out that was shot in the prison.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, I heard about that.

[Jeremy Renner]

Yeah. Such an amazing. I just saw it. I don't know, I can't remember what it was. I was on Netflix or something.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But was it something about Alabama?

[Jeremy Renner]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was in Birmingham Friday and everybody. I missed the watching this.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Jeremy Renner]

But it's sort of like kind of injustices that go on, you know, and in incarceration. And so anyways, it's just, it's. I just think it's like, you know, I think there's. There is a kind of, kind of great need for that like the morally gray area guy to come in and be able to listen to everybody. I think kind of that's what even with sort of politicians should do you.

[DJ Envy]

Think we should do that more? I was going to ask because in. In mayor of Kingstown, you deal with the bad guys and the good guys.

[Jeremy Renner]

Correct.

[DJ Envy]

But you are the kind of keeping the peace with that side. And I feel like sometimes with mayors and governors or even. Well, I can't even say president, but mayors and governors seems like they stay away from the bad guys. Like they just mess with the good guys where they can't make sure there is peace.

[Jeremy Renner]

Yeah. You know, I think like money just sort of pushes us around. And the days you move more are.

[Mark Delicato]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

All I know is what I've been.

[Ana Ortiz]

Told and that to have truth is.

[Mimi Brown]

A whole lot for almost a decade the murder of an 18 year old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved until a local homemaker, a journalist and a handful of girls came forward with a story.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm telling you, we know Quincy killed her.

[Mimi Brown]

We know a story that law enforcement used to convict six people and that got the Citizen investigation on national tv.

[Governor Wes Moore]

Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky housewife helped give justice to Jessica Curran.

[Mimi Brown]

My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist producer and I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I did not know her and I did not kill her or rape or burn or any of that other stuff.

[Mark Delicato]

That y' all said. They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her. They made me say that I poured gas on her.

[Ana Ortiz]

Are.

[Mimi Brown]

From Lava For Good. This is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Blame America, y' all better wake the hell up. Bad things happens to good people and small towns.

[Mimi Brown]

Listen to Graves county in the Bone Valley feed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and to binge the entire season ad free. Subscribe to Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcasts.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm Jonathan Goldstein and on the new season of Heavyweight I help a centenarian mend a broken heart.

[Mark Delicato]

How can a hundred and one year old fall in love again?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I help a man atone for.

[Governor Wes Moore]

An armed robbery he committed at 14 years old.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And so I pointed the gun at.

[Mark Delicato]

Him and said, this isn't a joke.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And he got down.

[Governor Wes Moore]

And I remember feeling kind of a.

[Mark Delicato]

Surge of like, okay, this is power.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Plus, my old friend Gregor and his.

[Governor Wes Moore]

Brother tried to solve my problems through hypnotism.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We could give you a whole brand.

[Jeremy Renner]

New thing where you're, like, super charming.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All the time, being more able to.

[Jeremy Renner]

Look people in the eye, not always.

[DJ Envy]

Hide behind a microphone.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Listen to heavyweight on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Jeremy Renner]

Forces are handed. I know. I think, I think capitalism is sort of like the crushing of humanity for us right now. And, you know, I, I don't really lead that way. I kind of lead with a more open heart.

[DJ Envy]

Heart.

[Jeremy Renner]

And. But yeah, I think, you know, you know, you're supposed to serve the people, but to serve the people, you have to listen to the people, understand the people, but also the people have to speak out. We have to, like, you know, be, be vocal and, you know, everybody needs to be witnessed. Right. Everybody needs to be understood.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Jeremy Renner]

And when we don't feel that way, we get divided. Right. And, you know, I think we need to find ways to, to unite man, because that's, that's what we are. That's how we're how, you know, how we, how we survive is how we succeed. It's how we flourish.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, even if you can't fully understand a person's, you know, story, understand their existence as a human. Like, I think the golden rule that we learned as kids just apply that to everything.

[Jeremy Renner]

Right, Exactly. Third grade playground rules is how. That's, that's my sort of like, religion, if you will. It's like all that third grade playground stuff, it's like, treat people like you want to be treated, like all that stuff. And it's like if we operate from that accord hoard, you know, if it got like, tax breaks for doing those, applying those rules, like, you know, we'd be doing it more often. So, yeah, I think it's important to, you know, at least that's. It's how I, It's. I, I think we can all even agree that that's going to work for all of us.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That would be crazy. Tax breaks based on being kind.

[Jeremy Renner]

Yeah. For being kind. For walking someone across the street. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then you got everybody hugging each other, mowing each other's lawns.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

I love that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right, right.

[Jeremy Renner]

I mean, that's just called community. That's called humanity.

[Ana Ortiz]

Right.

[Jeremy Renner]

And I think we're in a system that doesn't allow for that to happen.

[DJ Envy]

Sadly now I wanted, I wanted to go back a little bit a couple of years ago.

[Jeremy Renner]

Right.

[DJ Envy]

I remember you were all over the news in 2023. A 14,000 pound snowplow ran you over. You were saving your nephew. They say that, you know, they had to revive you. They said that you were even upset that they revived you because it was like it was. So break that down. What happened? Please tell us.

[Jeremy Renner]

Yeah, yeah, that was a, an incident happened in my driveway and on New Year's Day. And yeah, it's a lot, you know, I had to spend a lot of time writing a book about even. So there's a lot, a lot of healing that goes on in that. But yeah, it's like, it's like, you know, near death experience essentially. And it's an incident that, that transpired that. I mean, I've like zero regrets about it. I'd do it again, the same instance would happen. Maybe I'd go about it a little bit differently.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But you saved your nephew, right?

[Jeremy Renner]

Yeah, my nephew, yeah, he's at risk. He's gonna get ran over by the machine. So I tried to jump back on. I got knocked off of this tank like machine and tried to jump back on it. And it has like these tank tracks and it's. You can't. It's a stupid thing ultimately really to do. But you know, what else are you gonna do? I'm not gonna sit there and watch him get crushed. So I try to jump onto the machine to stop it and, and I got crushed instead. But at any rate, you know, we know the end of the story. I'm here and flourishing and happy and I learned so many great things and gifts that came from, from dying and coming back.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So you actually died?

[Jeremy Renner]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Did you see heaven or did you?

[Jeremy Renner]

Yeah, I don't know if we call it heaven, but I guess, you know, a version of it is. It's pretty, pretty amazing. I, what I, what was really strange though about it all, it's like I have, you know, very specific, specific sort of feelings about it privately. And then there's this doctor I talked to that and I talked with on this Oprah, on the Oprah show that she has. And this guy, all he does is deal with near death experiences. And then he spoke about sort of the general sort of ideas of things that, that people experience over the 40 years he's been. Been studying it. And by the time it got to me to ask me questions I like.

[DJ Envy]

I had nothing to say.

[Jeremy Renner]

The guy almost said word for word, What I wrote in the book about my personal, personal experience and it ends up being like really common with everybody that has a near death experience. So it's not that I didn't feel special or anything. I just feel like it's actually felt more concrete, resolved about what does happen when you pass or when you almost pass or. I mean, I certainly went away for a minute or a little. I don't know how much time, it doesn't matter, but it's a pretty, pretty interesting experience. And then after to know that I wasn't alone in, in it, that it wasn't just sort of my, you know, one time shot at it, it was that it's, there's something really concrete about it and it's beautiful and it's, it's ultimately in the short of it, I think just about love. And it's the only thing sort of you take with you because like, like hate, right? Very, very powerful, powerful human emotion. It could run a country on it. Love sadly can't. Even though it's pretty powerful human emotion, right? But hate only exists on the, on the tails of love because hate burns out, burns hot and fast and then it dies. You can't hate forever, but you can love forever in its perpetuity. And that's something you can take with you. And it's a, it's a beautiful, you know, it's how I kind of continue on as I walk through the day and breathe through the day and feel blessed and honored to be here. But I only focus on shared experiences with love and people I care about, about. And nothing else really matters outside that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Did it make you appreciate God even more?

[Jeremy Renner]

I don't know if it's about appreciating God more. I think it's about. I think I appreciate like, like love more or, or I really just wiped away all the white noise of nonsense that I gave credence to. There's so many things that, you know, I gave value to that doesn't really have any value. And I continue down that path, whether that's a path of God or not. It's just like, I just only do things that are very purposeful and very intended. I don't do anything otherwise. I don't do anything kind of. I don't think with my one toe. It's either all in or not. Everything I do is with great, great purpose and great clarity. And there's a free. It's very freeing, right, when we allow ourselves to not get our own way, not to just be just so focused on what we really want and what we really want and, like, what really has value. And, you know, I had to go to the nth degree, right, to. To learn that. I mean, it's partially why I was kind of writing a book about it. If anybody else could grab on to some of the blessings, because I got so many great gifts and blessings from being tested to my limits and. And squeezing all the crap out of me, I suppose, you know, the book.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Is my next breath.

[Jeremy Renner]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Is it true that Marvel reportedly cut your salary in half because of the snowplow incident?

[Jeremy Renner]

Not because. Not because of a snowplow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No.

[Jeremy Renner]

It's just because, you know, if they want to do season two and they're just offer offered half the amount to do season two, I'm like, yeah, of course I'd love to do it, but it's going to take a lot of physical work to. To get back into it, so. And also just the timing, because it would take a little bit more time for me to physically do the role, and maybe I just wasn't ready last year. It's like, maybe it's. It's. It'll happen, you know, in the. In a year or two to come, you know, but because I was still in recovery right now, it will be for hell, yeah. For the rest of my life. But I'm just getting stronger every day, you know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Are you playing Doomsday and Secret wars and all that?

[Jeremy Renner]

No.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn.

[Jeremy Renner]

Nope.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Are you afraid? Because, you know, it's a multiverse now. They can just bring another Hawkeye from another.

[Jeremy Renner]

Yeah, there you go. If they want to do that, they can go ahead. By all means, you can do that. I got. I got. I'm pretty busy myself.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How script was the script? Because I always think about this one line, right? It was in Endgame, and it was when y' all was arguing about after Natalie. Natalia died. Natalie.

[Jeremy Renner]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And you say maybe you want to go talk to him. Okay, go grab your hammer and you go fly and talk to him. I'm like, it just sounded off in the script. I don't know why.

[Jeremy Renner]

It's probably because I made that one up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You did, right? There's no way somebody wrote that you were writing. They told me you to improvise in.

[Jeremy Renner]

That moment where the best line can always win and especially. But that's not a comedic one. Usually it's about comedy stuff. Well, if we throw in something that's very charactery, it's like, it's. It's never. It's you. You can be loose with some things, it depends on the, you know, you never want to mess with the obvious story lines and things like that, and things have to always be truthful, so. But that was like a very heated sort of, you know, kind of. Kind of human.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You're grieving.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Jeremy Renner]

Yeah. And a lot of us are in. It's. It's, you know, with the whole D. Chuck something across the lake, and I think everyone's got their own feelings, but.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Jeremy Renner]

And also, like, you know, Hawkeye doesn't have any superpowers. Not like, really like a superhero. He is, but he's, you know, very. He's like a. He's like the dad of the Marvel universe in a lot of ways, you know, so that line is just something very sort of, kind of pragmatic of like, yeah, you can go fly around with your superpower, Super Fabio, you know, whatever thing. Right. It's just something, you know, truthful as you. You can be, you know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I want to ask you something in regards to Marvel. You know, you've had your. You've had some controversies, you know, allegations your ex wife made about you, but why did Marvel stick with you but was quick to discard somebody like Jonathan Major?

[Jeremy Renner]

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if there's. What's the difference between, you know, gossip and then between anything else. I don't know enough about Jonathan in his situation to. To. To know. I know they had big plans for that character, that's for sure. So whatever transpired, I. Yeah, that's. I mean, I. That sucks. I think if due diligence, I think, really has to be played out. So I don't. I don't know enough information to know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. I mean, it just doesn't seem fair and how it happened. I mean, y' all situations have nothing to do with each other. But I'm just talking about the overall. Overall, you know, arch of Marvel.

[Jeremy Renner]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, that. I think. I think there's a bigger. Bigger kind of scope to that, to, you know, like, you know, the idea of public opinion becoming part of, like, a court process or something like that. It's like we'll have a law and all that, you know, like, when did, like, you know, public opinion become more valuable than the actual truth or real, you know, anything on any situation? And we. We've had that for a while, ever since the. With media and social media and all that sort of stuff, sort of connectivity and, you know, I think it'd be. Makes kind of dangerous. Yes. Me, you know, I agree. I think it's pretty dangerous. Like all that, all the cancel culture and all that sort of stuff. It's like, wow, man. That just makes me want to run and hide from like. And why, why put yourself out there and do anything for anybody at all? You know, it's like, it's really kind of.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Anybody can say anything.

[Jeremy Renner]

Yeah, yeah, then they can. And that's exactly so silly.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, and don't get me wrong, I'm glad Marvel didn't. Right. I'm glad Marvel saw allegations for what they was and stuck by you. I just wonder why they didn't extend that same grace to somebody like Jonathan. You see him on video running away from a situation.

[Jeremy Renner]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. I. I do not know.

[DJ Envy]

Well, we appreciate you for joining us. Season 4 Mayor of Kingstown Police.

[Mark Delicato]

This man sings. Are you still doing music?

[Jeremy Renner]

Yeah, I. I still do music. Music's always been like number one in my life.

[DJ Envy]

What type of music? Pop, country, rap? What are you talking about?

[Mark Delicato]

He does not rap, yo.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, I don't rap.

[Jeremy Renner]

Yeah.

[Mark Delicato]

So you still are making music, cuz it is your passion.

[Jeremy Renner]

Yeah, yeah, still. I still, yeah, still do music. Just haven't had the time. I've been kind of since the incident I've had. I just prioritized my time right now and it's with my family and my daughter in my health and then life foundation.

[Mark Delicato]

Yeah.

[Mimi Brown]

Okay.

[DJ Envy]

All right, well, there you have it. Jeremy Renner, ladies and gentlemen. Make sure you check out season four Mayor of Kingstown. Premieres on the 26th on Paramount plus and it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[Jeremy Renner]

The Breakfast Club.

[DJ Envy]

DJ Envy, just hilarious Charlamagne, the guy we are the Breakfast Club. Let's get to the latest with Lauren.

[Mark Delicato]

Lauren becoming a straight fan made it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She gets him from somebody. Somebody that knows somebody.

[Ana Ortiz]

I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She'd be having the latest on it.

[Governor Wes Moore]

The Latest with Lauren LaRosa.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Sometimes you have facts, sometimes you have details, sometimes you have a little bit everything. What was the latest on the Breakfast Club?

[Ana Ortiz]

So you guys remember the LeBron fan who had sued LeBron because he went out and brought the tickets thinking LeBron.

[DJ Envy]

Was retiring or was about to sue.

[Ana Ortiz]

But he had. He. He was, yeah, he put. He was. He was in court. Not in court, but he had put it in. So his name is Andrew Garcia and it was a small claims court where that was filed. But he has recently put in docs to dismiss the lawsuit. And I talked to him last night.

[DJ Envy]

So you spoke to him last night?

[Ana Ortiz]

Yes, I spoke to him last night. So the docs that he put in basically say that there was a company, a sports betting company that reached out to him and said, you know what? We saw your store story. Well, and he alleges they offered him two tickets to any Lakers game and some merchandise. So he's like, you know what? I can't resell the tickets that I have right now. At least I'll get to go to a Lakers game. So he says he took the. The offer, and he has put in the documents that he needs to put in to dismiss the lawsuit. Now, he says that the company that reached out is Prize Picks. I have reached out to Price Picks. I have not heard back from them. And what he says is that he's going to be attending the. The game against the spurs on November 5th. They gave him an option of a couple different games, but that's the one that he chose. And he says that, you know, the. In the first place, it wasn't about money or trying to get a ton of money. He just wanted his money back. Because he says things are expensive right now. With the way that economy is set up right now. Things are expensive.

[DJ Envy]

Those tickets.

[Ana Ortiz]

He says that he's been a lifelong LeBron fan.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He had a little case. Y' all looked at me like I was crazy. They settled with him, but that wasn't.

[Ana Ortiz]

LeBron that, you know, I mean. But I think. I think that they reached out and did it because they knew people would talk about it. So it's a good little plug for them. But also, it's just a nice thing to do.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I didn't say he would, you know, win. I just thought that, you know, I've heard more ridiculous things brought to court.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, yeah, of course. Of course.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That was. That wasn't ridiculous to me.

[Ana Ortiz]

Yeah, well, he'll be attending that game, and, you know, he'll be there having a good time. And he. It's two tickets, so he'll be able to take somebody with him. And he said.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Did he ask you to go with him?

[Ana Ortiz]

No. Why would he ask me?

[Mark Delicato]

I don't know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You on the phone with him, you know.

[Ana Ortiz]

No, he didn't ask me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He didn't ask me out here making songs about song about you. It's stupid, though.

[Mark Delicato]

It is not.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It is dumb.

[Mark Delicato]

It's not dumb.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It don't even make no sense.

[Mark Delicato]

Somebody's professing a little for her.

[Ana Ortiz]

Well, I like the part I heard the song. What's his name.

[DJ Envy]

Y going to talk about it. Yeah.

[Mark Delicato]

That I'm Lauren, like a Rosa.

[Ana Ortiz]

Yeah. Well, we don't even have it.

[Mark Delicato]

He said he learned.

[Ana Ortiz]

He basically saying he's trying to.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Ana Ortiz]

Be the voice of the culture through his music.

[DJ Envy]

Don't have his name. Don't even have the song. But I was gonna say. So he got two games. Because he still has the tickets to the games that he overpay. Overpay for, though.

[Ana Ortiz]

Yeah, he still has those tickets, so he can go to that if he wants to too. But then he was offered these as well.

[Mark Delicato]

Oh, that's dope. Good for you.

[Ana Ortiz]

Well, you know what?

[Mimi Brown]

It'd be me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's four. So it could be him, your two boyfriends than you. That's crazy.

[DJ Envy]

That's 67. 67.

[Ana Ortiz]

No, I don't even have to do that because I don't have to. It's just a way to get out of things.

[Mark Delicato]

I know that's right.

[Governor Wes Moore]

Y.

[Ana Ortiz]

Well, now, in other news, speaking of LeBron, Stephen A. Is has some more choice words. LeBron.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah.

[Ana Ortiz]

Now, okay, now let me. Let me preface this with saying. Cuz people are coming at Stephen A. Like he's just on this oh, I hate LeBron tour. People are asking him questions and he's answering them. But also, prior to this statement you guys are about to hear him make, he talks about the fact that in his job, he's not a publicist for these celebrities. He reports on them and celebrities get upset, but he does his due diligence to make sure that they don't. But he can't help it when they. When they do. And that's what happened with LeBron. Let's take a listen to Stephen A. On 7pm in Brooklyn.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He get to LeBron. I don't like his. Not a little bit. This dates back more than a decade. I believe he's one way publicly, he's another way privately. The things he says and the things he has said to people, it's gotten back to me.

[DJ Envy]

If it were up to him, I wouldn't be where I am today.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Today, the day that he rolled up on me courtside. It was the day my contract was announced that I had stayed with espn.

[DJ Envy]

Go back and look at the camera angles. How is it we got one angle.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And the only angle you see was of him in his face. But you see the back of my peanut head.

[Governor Wes Moore]

Do you think you felt set up in that moment?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right. Damn right I did. Because I go on the air the next day and I'm like, that's a dad reacting to his son. Happens on a Thursday. That's a Friday. That Saturday, Richard Jefferson is doing the game in Boston still.

[DJ Envy]

Mike, he's working for ESPN.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And we see LeBron say to him, yo, man, when he said, as a father, I had it. So I'm thinking, oh, that's not about Bronnie. That's about you. Hey, salute to Stephen A. Smith. But a wise man from Queens with a peanut head once said, we don't care. Okay? Somebody needs to send Stephen A. His own gift. I am tired of hearing that story. I've heard that story a million times on a million different podcasts. Sad thing. We don't care.

[DJ Envy]

But I guess he does all these interviews, and they.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They ask him the same question. I'm a 7am in Brooklyn listener. I haven't listened to this. At 7pm in Brooklyn listener, but I haven't listened to that one yet. Sound like he volunteered that one.

[DJ Envy]

I don't know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He said, let's get to LeBron. I don't know if they did or not. My point is, I don't care. Like, we've heard this story. Like, how many times have we heard this story this year from Stephen A.

[Ana Ortiz]

Just this week, I've listened to. I asked y' all before we did it. I was like, are y' all, Stephen A. LeBron exhausted? You know what I mean? Because I thought y' all would be. Because I am. We've heard it a lot. But I mean, he also talked about, you know, him and Carmelo had, like, a little hiccup at one point, and he talked about that because he said he reported a story, didn't wait to hear back from Carmelo. And Melo called him and was like, why would you do, like. You know, he's. He's talking about a bunch of things in the interview on the Pivot episode.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, but I just don't want to keep hearing the same story over and over. I've heard the story about the encounter between him and LeBron over and over and over and over again. I don't know what the point. What am I supposed to do with this information? Information at this point? I'm just saying I just want to know.

[DJ Envy]

I don't know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I just want to know. I just want to know.

[Ana Ortiz]

The first time you heard it, what were you supposed to do with the.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Information the first time? It was something new.

[DJ Envy]

It was his perspective.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I was cool the first time. But then you hear it over and over on every pod. It's like, all right, okay.

[Mark Delicato]

But all right, well then that means people need to stop asking them about the same situation then. I mean, because they see you still got the same answer.

[Governor Wes Moore]

I don't.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't even know if he's being asked. I don't know context.

[DJ Envy]

You just think he just jumped out the window.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Was like Lebron.

[DJ Envy]

All right, well that's the latest with Lauren. Thank you.

[Mark Delicato]

And happy birthday to both of Kanye X's, Kim Kardashian and Amber Rose.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How he do that?

[Ana Ortiz]

Wait, hold on.

[Mark Delicato]

It's Kim K birthday and Amber Rose.

[Ana Ortiz]

Wow.

[Mark Delicato]

It sure is.

[Ana Ortiz]

Men be dating with attention, don't they?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It would have been my good sister. Jazz Flies born dated too. Jasmine Waters. So rest in peace, Jasmine.

[Ana Ortiz]

Happy birthday.

[DJ Envy]

All right.

[Mark Delicato]

Yes.

[DJ Envy]

Well, let's get to the mix. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning everybody.

[Mark Delicato]

It's DJ Envy.

[DJ Envy]

Jess. Hilarious Charlemagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Where you at this weekend? Well, first of all, thank you to Jeremy Renner for pulling up. Make sure y' all check out season four American Kingstown.

[Mark Delicato]

Absolutely.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And salute to Governor Westmore. He just announced that he's running for re election of governor in Maryland. He going to win.

[Mark Delicato]

Cuz that's what we do in Maryland.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, now they love Governor Westmore, man.

[Mark Delicato]

Yes they do. Yes they do.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Even though 50 something percent of the people say they don't know.

[Governor Wes Moore]

They don't know why.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Where you at this weekend, Jess?

[Mark Delicato]

I am actually in Philly this weekend, but that is a private event that I'm doing. But October 31st and November 1st I will be in Charlotte, North Carolina at the Comedy Zone. So get your tickets if you haven't yet. Yes, that's Halloween and the first day in November. That's a Friday and Saturday. We got four shows that weekend. Two on Friday, two on Saturday. So jessalarisofficial.com for your tickets. I will be doing meet and greet. And again I'm giving away a cash prize to the best Halloween cost to tune. So get your ass in them seats.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, listen, I want to tell.

[DJ Envy]

Okay, I was going to say this Friday I'm going to be at Hampton Homecoming. Hampton's homecoming. I'll be at Strawberry Banks Friday. I can't wait to see all the alum. I know it's a bunch of schools. Homecoming, I think it's Howard's homecoming. I think it's Norfolk State's homecoming. But yeah, Hampton Homecoming this Friday and then Saturday, guess where I'm at.

[Mark Delicato]

Where you at?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

My island of Dominica.

[DJ Envy]

I gotta give Me a Dominica flag so I can wave it at carnival.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You don't know what you want to be. You don't know if you want to be Dominica. Dominica Dominican gay. You just all over the place, like, you just. It's kind of ridiculous.

[DJ Envy]

We got the gay flag. I need the Dominica flag.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[Mark Delicato]

Also a gay Dominican.

[DJ Envy]

No, I'm not gay, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay?

[DJ Envy]

No, I'm not gay. I just need a Dominica flag.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay?

[Mark Delicato]

Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Whatever you need, brother. I support you either way, man. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I don't have no problem with what you're doing, all right? And I want to tell everybody this weekend is the University of South Carolina's homecoming, man. And on Friday, I will be at the Colonial Life arena with the icon living coach Don Staley of the South Carolina Women's Gamecock basketball team. You know, she put out a book earlier this year, uncommon Favor. It's been on the New York Times bestsellers list for weeks. But she's doing an event this Friday at the Colonial Life arena at 4:30pm and I will be moderating that conversation. And then the women's basketball team has an exhibition game right after our conversation against Anderson. So go get your tickets, man, and join US this Friday, 4:30pm, Colonial Life arena at the University of South Carolina. Go get your tickets. Come watch us have that conversation. And then we're going to watch the exhibition game between the women's basketball team, man.

[DJ Envy]

All right. And also, Lauren's going to be actually in Norfolk. You're going to be in Norfolk State, right?

[Ana Ortiz]

Yes, Norfolk State Alumni Fest. It's their homecoming. Alumni homecoming weekend. And I'm kicking off the party Friday. This Friday, October, 20. 20, 24th.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, yeah. You probably got to stop by mine first, you know, to get you're Friday.

[Ana Ortiz]

I thought y' all was like, Saturday.

[DJ Envy]

No. Well, we Friday. I DJ Friday. And we got to get you a Mike Vick jersey, too.

[Mark Delicato]

Oh, no.

[Ana Ortiz]

I'm wearing Deshaun desean Jackson's jersey when they come and play Dell State. That's not the way.

[DJ Envy]

But you're going to Norfolk State's homecoming Mike Vic jersey.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Everybody know d ride like you.

[DJ Envy]

That's what I'm supporting. The black coach, Mike Vic. That's what I'm supporting. 757.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well get you Atlanta Falcons Michael Vick jersey then. There's no way you should be wearing a Norfolk State jersey. Okay, Go get you an Atlanta Falcons Michael Vic jersey. He didn't even play for Norfolk State. He for Virginia Tech man. Go get you a Virginia Tech.

[DJ Envy]

I love the fact that he's, he's, he's a coach, he played in the NFL, he went back to the 75.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Salute to him. But you are a buy. You just, you just be all over the place with everything. You're a Jets fan one day Giants fan another day Nets fan another day Knicks fan another day claim to be Hampton.

[Governor Wes Moore]

Like why?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Clearly, clearly that butt is a buffet.

[Mimi Brown]

You can eat.

[Ana Ortiz]

It's crazy.

[DJ Envy]

Oh my goodness.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's why they call you young Platter.

[Mark Delicato]

Man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The positive note is simply this. Develop an attitude of gratitude and give thanks for everything that happens to you. Okay? Cuz you know that every step forward is a step toward achieving something bigger. And Breakfast club, you finish or y' all done?

[Mimi Brown]

The murder of an 18 year old girl in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved for years until a local housewife, a journalist and a handful of girls came forward with a story.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

America, y' all better wake the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns.

[Mimi Brown]

Listen to Graves county on the iHeartRadio radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season ad free. Subscribe to Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcasts.

[Mark Delicato]

It's Anna Ortiz and I'm Mark and Delicato.

[Ana Ortiz]

You might know us as Hilda and.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Justin from Ugly Betty.

[Mark Delicato]

Welcome to our new podcast.

[Ana Ortiz]

Where we rewatching the series from start to finish and talking to iconic guests like Betty herself, America Ferreira.

[Mark Delicato]

There was this moment when the glasses went on and it was like, this is our Betty.

[Ana Ortiz]

Listen to Viva Betty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Mark Delicato]

Short on time, but big on true crime. On a recent episode of the podcast.

[Mimi Brown]

Hunting for Answers, I highlighted the story of 19 year old Lachey Dungey.

[Mark Delicato]

But she never knocked on that door. Door. She never made it inside.

[Mimi Brown]

And that text message would be the.

[Mark Delicato]

Last time anyone would ever hear from her.

[Mimi Brown]

Listen to Hunting for Answers from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, it's Stephanie, Beatriz and Melissa Fumero. And this is more better. We are jumping right in and ready to hear from you. You're gonna thoughts, your questions, your feelings about socks with sandals and we're ready to share some possibly questionable advice and hot takes. God, that sucks so hard though.

[Mark Delicato]

I'm so sorry.

[Ana Ortiz]

Can you out petty them? Can you match their pettiness for funsies?

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah, all the things. Because aren't we all trying to get a little more better? Listen to More better on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Ana Ortiz]

This is an iHeart podcast.