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FULL SHOW: Offset Speaks on Cardi’s Album, Tyler Perry Accuser Explains $260M Claim + Jermaine Dupri & Shaka Senghor Interview
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Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo. Jess. Hilarious. Good morning, Charlemagne the God. Peace to the planet. Guess what day it is. Guess what day it is. Hump day. How y' all feel out there? I feel blessed, black and highly favored. Happy to be here. Another day to serve our beautiful listeners. Good morning. That's right. It's Wednesday. It's hump day. What's up, Jess? How you feeling, Jess? What's up? What's up? I'm all right. I'M all right Waiting to be let to the zoom But I'm all right Y' all getting over a strep throat. I did shows over the weekend in Baltimore, and I love my hometown. Yes, I do. But I got sick after meet and greet. It always happens like that, but that's why I don't do it as much. Got sick, somebody came out, was strapped, passed it to me, and, yeah, I've been home for recover. Recovering for, like, three days. Okay, and how many shows did you do out there? I did five. I could have added another one. They were all sold out. But I started not feeling good Sunday. You still out there spreading strep all around Baltimore? I'm definitely not in Baltimore. I'm home. I haven't been able to be around my child, my. My husband, nobody. You look like you was in the dispensary yesterday on Instagram. I was not in the dispensary. I was. That was a voiceover. And I got paid to do that promo. Mind your business. Oh, I look like your big ass hand. That was a hand. And I got nails. Don't play with me. Like I said, wow. But, yes, I get paid to do promos, so, yeah. But I'm good now. Thank you. Okay. Good, good, good, good. What up, Charlemagne? Man, I feel great. You know, this is a great week. And the reason this is a great week is, number one, the NFL is back. Right? So it's NFL week two. Regardless of how your team. Regardless of your team sucks. Yes. Okay. Like mine, the Dallas Cowboys. I'm glad that disclaimer had to come, didn't it? Which team? What's your. What you rooting? Who are you, Pittsburgh or Baltimore this year? Ravens. Hey, yo, not this year. Well, they lost last week. Yeah, they did lose. That was a terrible loss. No, it wasn't a terrible loss. It was just stupid. They always do dumb stuff like that. They always do that, though. That was up in the fourth quarter by, like, four touchdowns. Like, that was insane. But Terence Crawford and Canelo Alvarez this Saturday, man, dropping the clues bombs with Terence Crawford and Canelo Alvarez. Not enough hype around this fight for me. But I didn't think it would be. And the only reason I didn't think it would be is just simply because, like, you know, Canelo is super popular in the Mexican world. Correct. Terence Crawford is not as popular. Unless you're a boxing fan. Right. You know, it's gonna be a. It should be an amazing fight. Who y' all got? Who y' all got? I don't know it's a pick me for me. I know that sounds crazy because the boxer, the boxing fan in me says it should be Canelo Alvarez, but I'm going for Bud. I've slept on Bud before. Yep. And that's when he washed Earl Spence. That's right. Okay. Bud is a special kind of fighter. He got a magic to him that you just never know. That's right. You just never know. Even though he's going up a couple weight classes, you just never know. I don't know. I'm just going to enjoy the fight. I'm rooting for Bud. All right, well, we got a big show. Big show for you this morning. We have Shaka Senghor. He'll be joining us. He's an author, speaker. Charlemagne was just in Rikers island with him. So we'll break that down, what he was doing out there. And he has a new book. Yeah, he got a new book called how to Be Free, A Proven Guide to Escaping Life's Hidden Prison. Shaka is my, my man. You know, he comes to my mental health expo. He's been to my mental health expo a few times. And this week we were at Rikers island speaking to the inmates. Cause he does a lot of work with prisons all around the country. And this book is really fantastic because a bunch of us are trapped in a lot of hidden prisons. That's right. In our lives. That's right. And he gave us a guide on how to get free of them. And Also, Jermaine Dupree, J.D. will be joining us. He has a new documentary, a new documentary series called Magic City which comes with an album or a soundtrack. So we'll be talking to JD about everything going on Magic City and everything that he's working on. If you've ever been to Magic City, man, you understand how special this documentary is. And every time I watch this episode of Magic City, I want to go to Magic City. I'm actually mad that I didn't go to Magic City when I was in Atlanta. Fan. Best fest, That's Me and my wife had some great times in Magic City. Like being around people. First of all, your wife, like the strippers, you just like to sit there and eat the wings. I like to go there and empower the women that are in power, invest into the community of Atlanta. He be sitting in the corner. Yup, yup. Making sure everybody got one discussed on Mondays. Yeah, right. Discriminating. I'd be in there discriminating. Like no light skinned women. I want all the melanin Please. Hey, yeah. Oh, we, we definitely discriminate when we be in there. Okay. What's wrong with that? Ain't nothing. You pick what you like. You pick what you like. Crazy. All right. And salute to the ladies at Magic City. I'm sure they're just living now. They just finished counting their singles and their ones, even the light skinned ones. Amazing club. Salute to La La. Amazing. She works at Magic City. Lala. She's not a stripper, though. She works there. Salute to Lala. All right, well, let's get the show cracking. We got front page news. Amimi will be joining us. Next is the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Let's get in some front page news. Good morning, Mimi. Good morning, everyone. How y' all doing? Good morning. You look good, girl. Thank you, Jess. I hope you feel better. Thank you, girl. Thank you. All right. Well, we start this morning with who draws the line and who gets to keep the power. Politicians in several states we are rushing to redo congressional maps before 2026. But voters, they are not buying it. An NBC poll shows most Americans want independent commissions, not parties who are in charge, redrawing the maps. Now this all began in Texas where Republicans backed by President Trump pushed a mid decade map to lock in more House seats. Texas Governor Greg Abbott signed it into law last week. Civil rights group, they sued immediately saying it dilutes the black and Latino votes. Democrats in California, they're also pushing a Newsom backed November ballot measure that if other states keep redrawing, would temporarily let lawmakers replace the state's independent map. Republicans have already sued to block that. And in Missouri, GOP leaders advance a mid cycle map that deeply splits Kansas City and puts longtime Democratic Congressman Emanuel Cleaver at risk. And now Utah is jumping in, jumping in. A judge there said lawmakers blue pass voter approved anti gerrymandering rules and ordered a new map before the midterm. So in other words, voters set guardrails, lawmakers went around them and now the court is forcing a route, a redo that would keep more of Salt Lake City together and make one district competitive at least. Now appeals there are also pending. But the clock is ticking. They have a September 25th deadline to look at that. Now all of this brings us back to Texas, the state that helped kick this off, which is home to some of the nation's largest black communities and how those lines are drawn. We'll discuss side who's heard and who's pushed into the margins. Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett, she spoke earlier this week about those maps and what this now means. Let's listen to that. These maps. Racist. The fact that they are trying to silence black and minority voters in a majority minority state. Racist. I want to give y' all some numbers because I don't think this all fully understand how bad this is. Texas, number one, has more African Americans than any other state in this country. Right now, under the proposed maps, they want to make it to where Texas only has two districts in which African Americans have an opportunity to choose their representation. What does that mean for black voices in Texas? That means that it is approximately one fifth the voting strength of their white Texan neighbors. So expect court fights, ballot measures, and confusion over who represents who. But the NBC poll is very clear that 82% of people, they want neutral lines from. They don't want party lines to be drawn based on if you're Republican or Democrat. And so now to Capitol Hill, where GOP leaders are facing a showdown over health care. Speaker Mike Johnson is under growing pressure from within his own party to extend the Affordable Care act tax credits before they expire at the end of the year. So far, 11 Republicans, many from competitive districts, have signed onto a bill that would keep the subsidies in place for another year. Without action, millions of Americans could see their health insurance premiums jump by an average of 18% by January 1st. This puts Republicans in a tough spot because for years, the party has fought against Obamacare. But now, with more than 24 million people enrolled in Marketplace plans and more than 90% relying on these subsidies, letting them expire could spark political backlash. And so some lawmakers want to fold this into an extension into this month's government funding deal. But Speaker Mike Johnson, he hasn't committed, but he does say there are, quote, thoughtful conversations happening, but says there's a lot of opposition. Meanwhile, Democrats, they're drawing a red line, warning they will not support any budget deal that lets benefits lapse. They argue that without action, millions of people will lose coverage while everyone else will pay higher premiums. So that fight is far from over. Senate Republicans say they want to compromise, possibly by tightening eligibility requirements rather than eliminating those credits altogether. But with a government funding deadline looming and election season coming up, both parties are under pressure to act or face some political fallout. Yeah, I just don't understand how you sit around thinking on how to make people's lives worse. Like, it should be an easy call to extend the affordable, you know, care act. Like it should be an easy call. Like it makes people's lives better. Like, why would you. Why do you. Why would you want to cut people's health care in any way, shape or form. But now it's just. It's the principle, because Republicans have fought for so long against Obamacare that now it's just like they don't want to do it, even though millions of Americans are on it and they need it, and they will lose their health care. So a lot of people are writing and calling into their senators and their congressmen and, you know, making sure that that is folded into the government shutdown bill. So we'll see, Charlotte, what happens maybe if Republicans just start calling it the Affordable Care act and stop calling it Obamacare and understand that you, their constituents, and people that voted for them also benefit from this. Because that's what government should be about. Right? It shouldn't matter who, you know, what party, what party implemented what. It shouldn't matter what party implemented what, what politician implemented what. If it helps the American people, that should be what we care about. That's right. All right, well, that is front page news. All right, Mimi, we'll see you next hour. Everybody else, get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, phone lines are wide open. Again, 800-585-1051 is the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Are we live? This is your time to get it off your chest. I got an indoor pool. We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. We can get on the phone right now. Here. Tell you what it is. We live. Hello? Who's this? Good morning, my Breakfast Club family. It's your boy Lovey from the Bronx. Lovey. What's happening, King? How you doing, brother? Look, I want to say charlamagne. Let me give you your crown now for all you do for the culture. I'm bringing some flowers from my second home, Harper CP to the Mental Health Expo on the 11th. Do you have any information I could pass on as far as the expo this year? Yes. October 11, 11am to 4pm at the Joelle and Diane Bloom Wellness and Events center at the New Jersey Institute of Technology in Newark, New Jersey. Easy. You can go to mentalwealthexpo.com to register. I mean, you don't have to register. I mean, you've been there before, love. You don't have to register to get in, but, you know, it's recommended that you do. And it's a free event. Like, you know it's a free event. So just pull up like there ain't no screens attached. Okay, Now, I didn't Know, if we had to register because last year, you know, I resisted anyway. But I do want to say this. You know, being a Cowboys fan, you didn't tap on the nfce is the first black all black quarterback. Yeah. This never happened in the NFL. Yeah. Jalen hurts. Not Jalen. Yeah, Jalen hurts. What's dude from the rescue name? Jaden Daniels. It's not the Redskins. I said that the other day. They got mad commanders. Yeah, it's the commander. I'm old. Okay. Yeah, all right, sure. The Commanders and Dak Prescott. The Cowboys. Yes. Right. And then we go to Rock the Giants. I'm sorry, Envy, but we gotta watch y' all this week. You can dream. Dream big. Love. Are you a Packers fan? Oh, no, no, no, no. I'm a point. Yeah. The packers play the Redskins. Just started there. Never mind. You're right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But have you watched the Billionaire that. Get that Gambler. Have you watched that documentary? No. Oh, yes, I have. I'm sorry. My brain is somewhere else this morning. Yes, I watched all eight episodes of the Gambler documentary. The Cowboys documentary. Yes. It should be more like a billionaire in his emotions. It pissed me off because it showed me that Jerry Jones has been the problem the whole time. Because if he was, if he would have just got out the way, put his ego to the side, and let Jimmy Johnson be the great football mind that he is, and Jerry just be the billionaire owner. Cowboys would have had tremendous success. We probably would have won four to five Super Bowls, man. During the night, I want to shout out Law Nation Sports. I want you to tap into him. He's a YouTuber. He shows you a lot of love. I want you to tap into it. What's his name? Law Nation Sport. Law Nation Sport. All right. I'm gonna check it out. All right, lovey. Hello? Who's this? This is Tracy. Hey, Tracy. Good morning. Get it off your chest. Tracy first. Good morning, everybody. Thank you for everything that you're doing. The thing that's getting on my nerves this morning, as a mother of four blessed, black and highly favored children, I'm frustrated about this new law that was passed about them taking the cell phones away from kids. I don't think that they fully thought about the safety ramifications of this, because with the active shooters and all the shootings that go on, who is calling the police? Most of the time it's the kids with the phone. So, you know when you have kids away from their parents and they have no way to get in touch, if something happens like Nobody thought about that. I mean, even at a comedy show, they found ways to effectively let people keep their phones without taking them away. Now I live in Utica. Just this week they lost I don't know how many phones. And the lines for the kids to pick up their phones after school was a nightmare. So I really wish that they had thought about this better or think of a better solution to get this thing solved. I understand the reasoning why they did it, but I just think that it's putting the kids more at harm than helping. They won't let the kids just keep it in their book bag without using them. No. Now different schools have enacted it in different ways. I know that one of my friends, she said that their school lets the kids keep them in pouches like they do with a comedy show when they take them and they lock them up. And I guess the teacher can open it whenever they're leaving. But the school, in the high school in Utica, they take their phones all together and then there's this gridlock at the end of the day for the kids trying to get their phones. And the first week of school, I was told by my friends that the line to get their phones was so long, kids were missing their buses. It was like 45 minutes. Some of the kids couldn't even get their phones back. It's crazy. I do think that they should restrict students cell phone use, but I agree with like the pouches. And if you pull it out, you know, during, during class, then it should be some type of penalty. You know, I don't think that they should take it and like put it in the desk and everybody got to try to get it afterwards. The pouches are difficult too, because with the pouches you usually, you have to wait to outside and they got to scan something to get the pouches open. It should be, keep your phones. It has to be in your book bag. If it's not in your book bag, you get a detention. And all my kids. Exactly. And that's what I thought. They keep their phones in their book bags and they know that, you know, they can only pull it out after class or after school. I should say, but yeah, right. We can't sit here. There were people that were saying, There were people that were saying, well, when we were younger, we didn't have to do all that. I said, but you know what we also didn't have, we didn't have active shooter drills either. That is. So if you, if you can put these kids through these active shooter drills, you, you can do these Same drills to show them an effective way to be able to keep their phones, you know, and again, like you said, if. If somebody is violating, then take their phone. But, I mean, to put a whole school at risk. I'm with you 1,000%. But we do. But we do. We can't. We got to admit that, you know, phones are a big distraction for these kids. They are. But at what point do you teach them personal responsibility? That is true. My kids. My kids would have been worried about, oh, my God, if I get caught with their phone and they got to call my mother. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? They would have been more worried about that. And by the way, it's not like we were not capable, because even when we were in school, like, we couldn't have beepers and stuff. Like, if you got caught with a. At least in South Carolina you got caught with a beeper, you would detention. You would get detention. You might get isis. So, you know, even though a lot of kids would bring their beepers and stuff anyway, we knew how to keep them hidden. When Logan was a freshman in high school, there was a. A robbery across the street, and a guy ran across the school property, and they shut the school down, and they didn't tell any of the parents, but Logan had his cell phone and was able to call and say, this is what's happening. And I thank God, because you're a parent, you outside, you don't know what's going on. They shut the down. You're trying to run. And there was a stabbing at the middle school across town from the high school just yesterday. So I'm like, okay. I wonder who called that in. Yeah, you're right. Well, I would tell my kids to keep it in their backpack. Don't say nothing. Don't pull it out. Exactly. And, you know, if he gets called, tell them to call their mama. I like. I like that idea because. Because like you said, it gives. It teaches them personal responsibility. Thank you. Right. Thank you. And they gotta be. They gotta be accountable for that. That's right. For their. For. For their phone or violating that phone rule that's in the classroom. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1-051. We got the latest with Lauren coming up. We do Cardi B is talking about why the more kids you so more kids might be in her future. We gonna get on into it. All right. Look at that blazer you got on. Thank you. It's palms angel, her hair. Thank you. It's giving tlc. I like tlc. We went for that yesterday. I was out. Yeah, we're gonna talk about it. Talk about this, too. But I went to Harlem. Harlem's Fashion Rose kickoff for Fashion Week yesterday. They honor Usher with the Virgil Abloh Award. And my outfit was very tlc. Ish black. So this was the hair we did. Okay. All right, we'll get into that next. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get to the latest with Lauren. Lauren becoming a straight thing. She gets them from somebody that knows somebody. She gets the details. I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything. She'd be having the latest on the beach. The largest. The Latest with Lauren LaRosa. Sometimes you have facts, sometimes you have details. Sometimes she have a little bit of everything. Oh. It's the latest on the Breakfast Club. So Cardi B. Sat down with Jennifer Hudson, and she talked about why she would have or want. Why she wants more kids. Let's take a listen. Do you think you're gonna have more kids? You are? Oh, yes. It's like, the more kids you have, the less of a possibility you go to, like, a home. One of them is gonna wipe my butt. One of them is gonna wipe my butt. I agree with that. Yeah. And they say that especially when you got girls. Yeah, people tell me that all the time. I got four girls I'm gonna be taking care of for the rest of my life. I got four girls, two boys. And that's what I always say. One of them is gonna make sure I'm good. I'm not in the home. I say that to them, though. I'm like, you gonna take care of mommy and Daddy when we. All right. Me too. Yeah. I think the girls are definitely more inclined to do NBA. But you got. Your girls are already like, they. I feel like they take care of y' all or try to. Madison got me. Madison got me. Yeah. Well, I mean, I thought that this was an interesting conversation because, you know that there have been those rumors that Cardi is pregnant or if she's not pregnant. So hearing that she's open to more kids, you know, is definitely things. She also talked about the fact that she don't. She doesn't have room at this point to get more kids tattooed. So if she does have more, she's gonna have to figure out where the kids are gonna go. But at the same time, in la, Offset was at the airport. He was at lax. And TMZ ran into him and asked him about because, you know, Cardi is promoting Am I the Drama? And he's running around promoting his album Kiari as well. Now. Offset. Yeah. Offset was asked by TMZ if there's competition between him and Cardi because both of the albums are. Are going to be. Or his is good and hers is predicted to be really well. Let's take a listen. Hey, are your kids gonna have both their parents nominated for album of the year? For sure. That's just. They're crazy. W's you guys gonna go up against each other? Maybe. But maybe? Yeah. Never. Right? They all peace, man. All for us to win. Everybody gotta win. We got kids. Take care. We got Catch the Doves. Totally. So last thing, you're gonna support her album in some way. For sure. She's gonna do a big one too. Hey, I love to hear it, man. Hey, and thank you for your time. You're a real good dude, man. Yes, sir. I appreciate you dropping the clothes bombs for Offset. Yeah. Dodging that messy ass, nasty ass question that person was trying to. Trying to. Trying to present. Shout out to Charlie over. That's Charlie from tmz. That is the Ozzy over there. But I mean, Charlie's right in theory. I mean, both of them could album of the year because their albums came out in the same year. But he knew what he was trying to do. Yeah. 100. But I will say too, shout out to Offset because I think over this press rollout of his album and just some of the things we've seen them go through publicly with their divorce situation, he's learned how to have conversations about what they're going through in the media from the beginning of when we saw them to now. There was so much growth in that answer. But speaking of Offset, so we remember we were talking a lot about why Offset and Jid's Bodies has not been getting the push that we think it should get. So they were on Fallon yesterday and they performed in Drowning Pool. The band that originally did Bodies performed with them. Let's take a listen to that. That's dope. Yeah. Yes. I didn't really know much about the original song that was sampled. I learned that because of this performance. But I was watching this interview with JD he was talking about how the composition of that song is like one of his favorite that he's ever rapped over. He killed it. Yeah. Two individuals who did not get the proper promotion for their albums. J. Offset. What? I'm making the stops now. It seems like with Fallon, that was a great performance. Yeah. But it's been weeks since their album came out. You're right, you're right, you're right. Well, speaking of album promotion, you guys have been seeing Cardi and all the promotions she's been doing. So people. She's taking it back. She's taking it back to the essence of when people used to run around and really, really push their house. We gotta stop doing this. What's that? We gotta stop praising people for doing what they're supposed to do. Yes, I understand what you could. We did the same thing with the clips. Clips had such a genius rollout. And we're doing the same thing with Cardi. 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I was going to schools to try to teach kids these skills and I get get eye rolling from teachers or I get students who would be like it's easier to punch someone in the face. When you think about emotion regulation. Like you're not going to choose an adaptive strategy which is more effortful to use unless you think there's a good outcome as a result of it. If it's going to be beneficial to you. Because it's easy to say like, like you go blank yourself, right? It's easy. It's easy to just drink the extra beer. It's easy to ignore, to suppress seeing a colleague who's bothering you and just like walk the other way. Avoidance is easier. Ignoring is easier. Denial is easier. Drinking is easier. Yelling, screaming is easy. Complex problem solving, meditating, you know, takes effort. Listen to the psychology podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts, let's just do a tick tock dance and that'll sell it. But I think these artists are going back to what makes sense talking to their I don't know if yes, you need a budget. But also, you know, it don't really cost to go do media, it don't really cost to do press, it don't really cause to do promo videos or to lean into just what your audience knows you as. Because what Cardi has been doing, she it looks like you could even shoot that with an iPhone. It looks like she's shooting with an iPhone. So Cardi B, if you guys have not seen it has been like, we know her for, like, the skits and, you know, the personality. Cost money to move Cardi around. It does. Don't give me from state to state not moving around what Lauren's saying. She's doing skits. She. So, like, the last one she just did. She talked about the budget. It does take money to move her around. But what I'm saying is you can pull out a phone and speak to your audience the way they're used to hearing you. So the. You can pull up on the block and lay your CDs on the sidewalk. Yes, but she's also going to Houston. She's going to la. She's going to Atlanta. She's in Long Island. She's in. She's flying all over the place. And Cardi don't fly commercial. No, no, no. But I'm not talking about that part of it. I'm talking about the piece that's promoting, like, the vehicle that's promoting it. She said she jokingly posted a video saying that Atlantic only gave her 50 for the rollout. So that's why she's been doing this. And the. We have the audio of her. Right, Jess? I think. I mean, she's being funny, but there was the video. Just, like, they only really gave her 50. No. Might be close. No Charlamagne. This is Cardi B. They don't. They just had that whole article with them talking about how these labels don't be spending no money. But continue. I was just gonna play the audio from when she had the CDs laid out. I think she was uptown in Harlem. She had the CDs laid out on the ground. Let's take a listen. What up, y'? All? We outside. We got the exclusive Cardi B new album we selling right now. Look at it right here. We got the vinyls, because it's CDs. We got the core edition. Got the core edition, $9.99. $9.99, y'. All. And I think what she's doing. That's dope, is she's making. She's getting physical copies, right? Because it makes people feel special. It's no disrespect. You can download a record or you can stream a record, but the fact I got a CD and it's signed by Cardi B, I could get a chance to take a picture. I got vinyl and it's signed by Cardi B. I think that even makes it even more special. And it's affordable. It's $9.99. I love that. Yeah, I'm just happy as a rollout because people don't promote their stuff outside of social media. Correct. Like, literally, they like, I'll post it on Instagram, post it on their Twitter, post it on their tick tock, and that's it. I am just happy that it is an actual rollout, that she is actually out there promoting her album, telling people to go buy it. That's so crazy because rollouts used to look forward to see what the rollout would be. Yes. And now it's like, Cardi's always been consistent with having rollouts for her big projects, but, I mean, her last album too. But it's just crazy that we, like, have to, like, like, be like, oh, my God, this is a rollout when you used to look forward. Correct. That's all this artist as well. Artists got to be willing to do it. Artists got to be willing to do the work as well. Well, shout out to Cardi and the rollouts and all the things. I went to a Galore magazine, Tokyo Styles, Cardi B party last night celebrating them, but they took. They didn't. I was there. It was late. They hadn't got there yet, so I left before they came. But they covered Galore magazine. Yeah. So shout out to Tokyo Styles and Cardi B. And she does the bougie ish. And she does the hood ish. She'll go to the club. She does both sides. Yesterday was in the middle. It was in the middle. Yeah. It was in the middle. It like, I seen the homies, but it was a lot of people in there. I was like, how did y' all end up here? Okay. Yeah. All right. Well, that's the latest with Lauren. Now when we come back, we got front page news. And then Jermaine Dupri will be joining us. So don't go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. You're checking out the Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlamagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get back in some front page news. What's up, Mimi? What's up, y'? All? So this is a story that has been having a lot of back and forth. And then there was another ruling that came down yesterday. So a federal judge on Tuesday blocked President Trump's attempt to fire Lisa Cook from the Federal Reserve's Board of Governors, issuing a temporary restraining order that keeps her on the job for now while the case proceeds. The judge in the case ordered chair Jerome Powell and the board not to carry out the removal. Cook is one of several, excuse me, seven governors who helped run the central bank. She sits on the Federal Open Market Committee which votes on interest rates and helps the banking rules and financial stability policies decisions the feds make. They make mortgage rates rules, car loans, credit card applications and how banks are supervised. For months, Trump has pressed the Federal Reserve to lower interest rates, arguing that his tariff policies will not push up inflation. But central bankers want to see how the trade war and other policy changes are affect the US Economy before resuming cuts. Now in the spring, Trump threatened to fire chair Jerome Powell, then backed off as advisors warned him this would spark the market volatility. So rather than take on Powell, whose term ends in May of 2026, it seems the focus has shifted to reshaping the board. Now, if Cook, a Biden appointee, were removed, Democratic appointed governors would drop to two of the seven member panel. Now, to do this, Trump has gone after Cook on mortgage fraud fraud allegations tied to properties that she owns in Georgia and in Michigan. Cook denies any wrongdoing and has not been charged and she sued to keep her seat. During a cabinet meeting, though, Trump was asked if her attempted firing was political and if his administration was weaponizing government by digging into the mortgage records of people he does not like. Let's listen to what he had to say. No, they're public. I mean, you can find out those records. You can go check out the records yourself. And you should be doing that job. Actually, you wouldn't do that because that's not the kind of reporter you are. But you should be doing that job. I shouldn't have to be doing it. If you did your job properly, we wouldn't have problems like Lisa Cook right then and there. That's when the reporter should be like, okay, Mr. President, but what about the Epstein Fox? Like whenever he insults you, you should bring up exactly what you know bothers him. Absolutely. And that was a CBS reporter. Presidents don't typically fire Fed leaders. It's part of a norm that that's meant to protect the central bank from day to politics. And it's also interesting to mention that Cook is the first black woman to serve on the Fed board in its 110 year history. And you said that was a CBS reporter. So Trump owned cbs, so that person wasn't going to buck back. Okay, all right, well, moving on. If you have ever had your flight delayed for hours or canceled at the last minute and you sat there wondering if the airline owed you anything, this next story is for you. Because the Trump administration is reversing a Biden era plan that would have required airlines to pay passengers compensation when flights are delayed or canceled due to airline related issues. Now we're talking payouts that range from 200 to $775, plus coverage for meals and hotel stays if you were stranded because of something like a mechanical failure or a system outage. Now, the plan was first introduced in 2023 under the Biden administration as part of an effort to cut down on junk fees and push for stronger passenger protection. It even made it to final approval the stage earlier this year and it was waiting to take effect. But the Department of Transportation under Trump Secretary Sean Duffy says the rule is now being withdrawn. The airline industry, of course, is celebrating this move. The Airlines for America, that's the group that represents Delta United in America, they called the reversal a win, arguing the rules would have gone beyond the Department of Transportation's authority. And they're not fixing the real issues. But here's what you need to know. If you are still stranded or if your your flight is canceled, the airline will refund you, but they do not have to compensate you for delays. Some carriers choose to do that, but not everyone is totally up to the carriers now that this. So we still have been reversed. So we still do get the refund. You still do. If your flight is canceled, not delayed, but canceled, you get the reap. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yet again, I don't understand why this administration is so hell bent on getting rid of things that actually help people. Like, like after you've been delayed, you want some type of compensation. Yes. Work. Yes. I've been late to shows like what are we talking about? Yeah. Especially if it's not your fault if there's a mechanical issue or staffing shortage, they should pay you. Yes, absolutely. Not even shows like kids events. Like there's been times I had to fly back to make it to a kids games and, and the flight was delayed or didn't happen and I was late or missed the kid's game. So yeah, there's a lot going on. Yeah. And you should be compensated. Absolutely. Yeah. The fact that the Trump administration cares more about what these airlines think than what everyday people think is part of the problem. Yeah, absolutely. Like I'm so sick of these politicians that are beholden the corporations. Yeah. I'm talking about like me doing shows. I've been late to my own comedy shows and people are there waiting for me, but my flight is delayed and delayed and delayed and it's like, damn, they want their money back at the end of the. You Know what I'm saying? Yeah. People miss work is what I mean. Not me going to shows. Yeah, yeah. Working. I've seen people miss weddings. I've seen people miss funerals. I didn't see people miss a whole bunch of things because flights are delayed and they couldn't get. They could imagine you miss your own funeral because the flight delayed because, you know, sometimes they gotta ship a body. Well, the body's in there a couple days before the season. He wasn't even there. Right. Well, thank you, Mimi. All right. You're welcome. And that's your front page news. I'm Mimi Brown. Follow me on social @mimi Brown TV. And for more news coverage, follow the Black Information Network or Download the free iHeartRadio app and visit binnews.com. mimi, they be. Do your followers go up when you do that? And do they be all in your. D.M. williams, Charlotte. That's a offline conversation. Crazy. Crazy. All right, now, when we come back, Jermaine Dupree will be joining us. J.D. so don't go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Jess. Hilarious Charlamagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. Yes, indeed. JV. J.D. jermaine Dupri. What's happening? How you feeling? He looking at the wall. I'm looking at the wall. We ain't got JD on the wall. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, I don't think. I don't think I made the wall. That's all right. We ain't got JD on the wall. Yeah, y' all ain't got me up there. Well, no, see, the wall represents, like, iconic Breakfast Club moments. Not that you haven't given us great interviews. I haven't had a. You know what I'm saying? You have had some. You know, you ain't never stormed out the studio. You a slap Y threatening. I don't have nothing. I'm out of that. I'm out of that conversation. But you have always coming in and giving us. Giving us great conversation, man. And I've been enjoying the Magic City docu series. Thank you. And it got me to thinking about, like, just Atlanta. Like in Atlanta's had a lot of different runs as far as music is concerned. But what is Atlanta culture exactly? Is it this? Is it the script clubs? Yeah, 100%. That. That. That's one of the things skating. There's a bunch of different things like the bass music and a Bunch of different things, but we haven't. We've never really highlighted these things the way I guess I'm trying to do and make sure that people understand that that's what it is. Because I think, like, people think, like, even with the strip club situation, it was me and whoever else was promoting this from a long time ago, just black people trying to promote strip clubs. And you learn from the documentary that this. This was a law that was passed in the city and might be more states in the south, that nudity was something that they opened the floodgates and made it a business. Right. So even me growing up, I never realized why it was so many strip clubs in Atlanta. It was a strip club damn near every corner or in every hood in Atlanta. And I never understood. I just thought we was just a strip club place. But when you look at this documentary, you start going outside and looking at all the other places, like in Florida and all these other places, you're like, oh, it's a law that was passed. Right? And I used to come to, like, New York when we used to do things in wherever. I go to other cities and be like, man, why these cities ain't popping like Atlanta with the strip clubs? And the law is a real law that gave us the entryway to just have this going. So there. That's a. That's an Atlanta thing, you know. Is Magic City the. The biggest strip club and the most recognized strip club in the U.S. nah, I think. I mean, I think it's been. It's been a couple, you know, over the years. I think Magic is in the top three, of course, but like, booby trapping, Miami, King of Diamonds. King of Diamonds wouldn't. I mean, you know, Miami's always had, you know, I mean, they've always had these chip clubs. Turnover. Yeah. And I think V Live, I think that's Houston. So I think Houston, there's a couple of places that's got. But I don't think Houston can get naked, though. That's the thing. It's like we talking about nudity. As far as strip clubs is Miami, and Miami, Atlanta was nudity. Nudity, yeah. So what made you want Atlanta need that infrastructure now? Because that's what. When I think about Magic City, I know people look at it as just a ball, but when I'm watching the daca, even just growing up, I think of it as infrastructure. This is one place where people went to break records. I mean, I. That's. That's the thing. Like, I was gonna answer your question. The reason Why I wanted to do it is because, you know, we don't talk about the places that actually helped us get to where we are. You know, I mean that, that part of hip hop stopped a long time ago. Like when you watch like Wild Style, right? When there's a person that's not from New York, I watch Wild Style. You can see like how Grandmaster cast them, what they was doing to become and made what made hip hop turn into what it was here in New York in, in the later years of hip hop. What shows or anything show kids how we got, you know, I mean, how we got to where we are. And I think that, you know, it's important for black establishments to show like it's a 40 year old black establishment. The owner went to jail, they tried to sell his, his property, he took it back over and now it's back popping in that he got a TV show. Like that's American Dream, you know what I mean? Like, regardless of whatever good or bad, it's a black American dream that we don't ever really be talking about. Does Atlanta need that infrastructure now? Huh? Does it need it now? Yeah, 100. Yeah. I mean we need it more than any, everybody. I mean not just Atlanta, like a bunch of cities need to. It's probably a bunch of other cities that's got like 40 to 50 year old black establishments that I don't, that I don't even know about. What do you think ruined strip clubs? Because at one time there was a strip club in every city, they were always big. There was 15 in Atlanta, there was 10 in New York. What do you think ruined the strip club safety? Right? I think that's why Magic stands out so much. Because you can go in Magic with all your jury on, you can go in Magic and be the biggest star in the world and be standing next to the biggest criminal in the world. But whatever would happen somewhere else ain't getting ready to happen in Magic. Magic. And I say that proudly because even me, I go to Magic without security. Like because the security in there gonna take care of me. Like they like if they was working for me. And I feel like it's the safest club in Atlanta. So I feel like that. I feel like the safety of strip clubs and how Magic ran the club, strip club etiquette, I think that is, that that's what killed strip clubs for the most part now also I noticed, you know, growing up when we used to go to strip clubs, you go with a couple dollars, right, and you would, you would be fine. All Night. That's totally changed. That's just your mental. Okay. Right. That's just people's mental space. Right. If Magic City's, like, overly crowded, I'll go stand by the bar, and I might spend five hundred to a thousand dollars that, that, you know. And by the way, J.D. that's a lot of money. I was talking about a hundred dollars at the bar. I'm just saying. Let me put this in perspective. Happened the other night when Chris Brown was in Atlanta. They spent $200,000 in Magic City. So my little 500 to, to a thousand over there in that corner is like a hundred dollars, man. Because I hear when people say those numbers, and I'm like, I don't believe it. No, I swear to God. 200,000. Oh, God. A hundred went to Chris, right? I've seen people order 100, 000 singles. Yeah, I mean, 100 went to Chris. Without a doubt. And Magic, in Magic, they go. When you, when you order the money, they bring a Magic City bag in the backpack for you. Backpack. I got one. So the backpack had a hundred in it. Jada, waiter, y' all know J, she got about a dub, right? I think maybe more P from QC. I think he ordered 40 right then and there. You know, that's, that's 160 right there. You know what I'm saying? Chris by himself had 100. That's what I'm saying. So if splitting it up, I think Bow wow probably got 10 or 15, 20. You at 200 fast. So when you was in the back in the day with bmf, how much did you see them spend? That one on my album. I have a conversation with Meech, and he says he spent 600,0001 night. That's insanity. That's crazy. What's the most you spent? And now you was in there with Janet. What did you spend? I mean, I, I, I had a, I had a limit. Like, when everybody heard me say I spent $10,000, that was my limit. So once I got to that 10, and I wasn't trying, but by the way, I'm not in there trying to compete. I always felt like, you know, at one point in time, when BMF came or when BMF grew, because I've been in the club with Meech for a long time before BMF was a crew like that. And we used to be at the Gentleman's club back in. When you watched the episode where Magic supposedly was burnt down or whatever, and everybody went to the Gentleman's Club, that's back in the period of time when I actually met Meech. And Meech didn't have the crew, the crew of people with him. And we was in the gentleman's club. And in the gentleman's club, it was like, what he saying. We wasn't really throwing the money. We was just, like, giving the girls the money, right? And that's. That's where the whole confusion about who started throwing the money came from. Because I start. I started doing this in Money in a Thing video, and I know people want to say they did it and did it. Well, you find a video that came out before money anything where you see rappers throwing money like this, right? And that. I never had a. Like, it wasn't about me trying to challenge nobody. It got. It got to be like, when meeting them, crew came and it was like, oh, damn, they throwing more money. We gotta throw. It became like a money war. I was never. I was never part of that. We're still talking to Jermaine Dupree. The new docu series Magic City is out right now, and the soundtrack comes out this Friday. Charlemagne. When I think about Mariah Carey getting, you know, the accolades she got the other night at the vma, I don't know if that happens without you. And what I mean by that is Mariah had a fantastic career, but that album was like a comeback album that kind of solidified her forever. I was talking to her about this yesterday, and I was saying, like, it would have happened without me. But Mariah is. Listen, Mariah is such a New York hip hop person that she wants to gravitate towards this, right? As opposed to, like, promoting the Boyz II Men record, which was no song. Her first song of the decade, right? She ain't even performed that song the other night, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, she got records that's bigger than the records I did that. She just like, yeah, you know, we can. Ready to do this tonight. This is what we gonna do. I listen, I love it because I'm a part of it. But don't get it twisted. These songs is. You know what I mean? She got records that she could do that's like hero, you know? I mean, these songs, that's huge. That made her. Mariah has sold 30 million records before I even worked with her, you know what I'm saying? Like, that charm bracelet and then that. What was it? What was that movie called? I don't even remember. It was a bad. It was dark. Yeah, but one. One Black Eye can't kill You. No, that's true. But then you came back with Emancipation of Mimi, and that's. That's a nuclear bomb. I mean, that's not a normal album. I mean. Yeah, I just. I. I always look at that like, I'm really. I can't take credit for Mariah. She's. She'. She is. And she was who she was before. I. You know, I'm. I'm just happy that she let me be a part of the ride. I think that puts more pressure on you, though. And what I mean by that is when you're tasked with going in there with an iconic person already and creating something that gets them, you know, back seen the way that they were seen before that, you know, last flop, that says a lot that you was able to accomplish that then. It put pressure on me. I would think so back then. Nah. Cause I don't think about it, like, you know, like, the thing about it is, when I go into studio, people, I don't be like, I don't get caught up in what's happening in their life. Life. And I think that that was what was going on in her life outside of the studio. I go in the studio and I'm like, I say this all the time. When I did, when I work with Aretha Franklin, she made me realize, like, listen, if you're gonna be in here working and I'm gonna pay you, and we gonna let you get this credit, you better say what you gotta say. If I sound bad, if I don't even sound halfway good, she was like, tell me to do it again. And I'm like, I can't tell Aretha Franklin nothing like this. Aretha Franklin. But the way she was talking to me was like, I flew you here to Detroit to cut my vocals, so what you gonna do? You gonna sit in and just watch me or. If you. If that's. I'm going home. That's what she told me. She said, literally, I'm going home. That's what you're gonna do. And that's when I set that for a minute. I'm like, you know what? I gotta do this. I just gotta be brutally honest with artists. And when it came to Emancipation of Mimi, we belong together. We made the song. Like, listen, Mariah, if you don't hit the note at the. At the end of the record, the record ain't gonna be what people want the record to be. They want you to. That's. That's what they want. We gotta give them what they want. And it was like, nobody else Wanted to say this. I had to say it. And I had to be like, you know, if you don't like me for saying what is real, then why we in the room together? What was one artist that didn't like you being brutally honest? That was like, nah, this is not for me. Nobody. I don't think nobody. I mean, I think everybody wants. Want. They don't want to address it, but when it's right, they like, oh, okay. You know. But a lot of them, like, you know, Bow, I didn't like. Oh, I think they like me. Like, you wrestle with him every time you're in the studio. That's what it's about. But I'm saying Usher didn't like. You make me wanna. And you have to sit there and be like, man, that's crazy. Why? What do you. What. What are you listening to that make you not like this song? What was it about the emancipation of Mimi that got her back to where she needed to be? Was it the freedom that maybe you provided? Because I saw the Brat telling this story about how Tommy Mottola got guns pulled on you because you let Mariah go to burn. I didn't let them do nothing. They pulled off and went on their own. But, yeah, so tell the story, because I don't know the story. Okay. So the first time I started working with Mariah, I decided to do Always Be My Baby remix, right? So I brought Escape and the Bratz to her house that was out in upstate with her and Tommy. And this was the first time me. I started bringing my people around Mariah and I brought Brat. Her and Brat kicked it. They hit it off and she convinced Brat or either Brat convinced her. Let's take a trip in the car, just me and you, and go to McDonald's or some old. So they left together. No security. Left the ground without me knowing and showed up in the studio like, what. What's going on? I'm like. I seen. Was running around like. And. And it always looking at me like, jd, this show this your person. She done ran off with Mariah. And I'm like, what the. Like, that was a crazy moment. This is my first time being there. This is my first time at her house. And I bring some over. This was just like a story. You bring some over to the house and this. What happened happened. And I'm in the house like this. Like, I'm just trying to make a record, man. What the is going on? So you come. Brad, like, where you at? Yeah, I called her. She's like, we just Getting some fries. And I'm like, what? Why? Why? And she was saying that Mariah just like at that period in time, Mariah was, you know, this was a different type of success life at this point. Yeah. She wasn't the artist that could go outside and go to McDonald's or. She wasn't even doing that. Like, she was sheltered in the house and she. She just wanted to get out. And brat was her. Her person that was ready to go escape and do it. That's great. So was it that level of freedom you provided her? That's what it's. Because that. The album's called the Emancipation. Yeah. No, I just. I just think. I think I make Mariah comfortable. Right. And I don't. I don't. I don't fake with her about the music that we should make. And I think that's what makes her feel free, you know, Free. Because I'm telling her, I'm telling anybody. If you sing, make singing records, man, like, hey, like, I get it. You want to rap, and I'm a rapper at heart, but I learned how to make music, and I learned through the success that I've had that these people want these records to sound like the records that they know the audience don't change. Right. So I just have to keep beating that in people's minds and letting them know, like, listen, you might want to change your up, but the person that's listening, they want the new Mariah record to sound like the Mariah record that they heard before. Yeah. And that's always a hard fight with artists. Did you ever take her to Magic City? Yeah. No, no, no, no. She won't. She probably won't go. That's ain't. That ain't her thing. Her bag. Now back to Usher. You said Usher didn't like make make me wanna. Yeah, why not? What was the problem with that? I don't know. And how'd you get him to. How'd you force him to finally do it? Well, I mean, I had to force him, but he also. He just let me know it wasn't like. That wasn't what he felt he should be coming with. At this point in time, Usher was still not sure where his career was gonna go, so he still cut the song, luckily. But if we was in that space right now, he not gonna cut the song right now. He ain't gonna be like, I don't. With that song right now. He don't care if he don't like it now. I'm not good. It's not Even gonna get cut. Even now. Like, right now, I would trust you to not. Right? He gonna be like, that's right now. I'll be like, yo, Usher, please cut this song. Usher, turn his phone off. Like, when your name is mentioned 50 years from now, what's the one artist you want to define your legacy? I don't know who the artist is. Somebody great. I mean, I think, you know, I think, like, watching Mariah get Vanguard Award and her performing in that piece, two of records that I did, I think that means. That means a lot, you know, I mean, like, almost like you saying it's like my records are loud enough to make people damn near believe that I had something to do with her success. To me, that's a mean an accomplishment, because I didn't have anything to do with her becoming who she is. No, that's not true. That's not true. I mean, because it's a second wave. Yeah, but I'm saying, I think. I think I might have made more black people like her. Yes, but she's still Mariah Carey. Yeah, but it says something when you. To me, I mean, best album. I get it. Mimi is Mariah Carey's best album. Absolutely. That's probably the definitive album of her whole career. That's her Thriller Killer. It just is. I don't know. I don't know. We're still talking to Jermaine Dupree. The new docu series, Magic City is out right now, and the soundtrack comes out this Friday. Charlemagne, what's the hardest personal sacrifice you've made for your career? Life. I don't really have no life. I just be making music. You know what I mean? And I have people that tell me this all the time, like, J.D. you know, you don't really. You. My baby. Mothers be saying this like, you know, you. You. Your life is the music. All you do is care about the music. All you care about is putting out records. All you care about is doing what you're doing every day. And that's the truth. It is. That's what it is. I don't care about nothing else. You don't enjoy the money. You don't go on vacation. I mean that. Come along with it. But ain't. That's not. That's not a chase for me. Like, my chase is to be, you know, like what they said on the Billboard, I get number one. I. I feel like. I feel like I finally did something by getting number one on that list. But then it's never enough. Because you want. Now it's like, but it's, but it's also like fighting. It's like boxing. You gotta, you gotta. Can number one. Can you stay in that space? Right? You know what I'm saying? It's like watching Floyd and Tyson talk about they gonna fight. It's like Floyd retired, but he still want to be the. He want to be the best. You know what I'm saying? It's like, I'm not saying I'm retired. I'm out here. So I, I just know that, you know, like, I also know that the space in hip hop and R B that hasn't been touched. What I'm doing, going from 92 and being, becoming the number one producer, the 21st century in 2025 ain't been seen ever, right? So if you start doing that ain't never been seen, you don't have no reason. I don't have no reason to stop. I just gotta, you know, pray to God that don't stop. You know, I mean, it's funny. I wonder if hip hop had limits you made. And what I mean by that is when people start talking about your who's the greatest producers of all time, they'll start, you know, naming a bunch of people who do a lot of hip hop records, right? But you got to just say, Jermaine is a musician. If you, if you said Jermaine is just a musical producer, then I think the conversation is a little bit different. Yeah. You know what I mean? I mean, I, it's. It's hard, man, because I, I feel like I switch from people. I switch up on people so much. When I'm in R B mode, I'm not talking about no rap, right? I remember one time I came up here and I was so R B out and I want. I'm waving the flag for R B and I ain't talking about nothing rap. I think that confuses the podcast and the guys they usually talk to me about, they like, wait a minute, I thought this was money. Anything you was. You know what I mean? Magic City, this over here, talking about you want to make division records, you know what I mean? I think that, that, that throws the whole thing off because I do switch. I mean, that's how I have. That's the only way I can do it, that's the only way I can make it, is to get away from, you know, from one thing for a minute and go into that space and be 100 in that space. Is there a media bias even towards the South? Because I think about that with the producers and the artists, because there's some artists from the south who should be getting mentioned as top lyricists all the time and some producers from the south who should be getting mentioned this topic, I just think that that and I want, I want to get, I want to send Bank a shout out because I feel like his interview with Thug fantastic pushes brilliant. Finally somebody in Atlanta to the forefront of hip hop media in the city of Atlanta. And I think it's taken 30 years for somebody in the city of Atlanta to be the person that you have to sit down and talk to if you that guy in hip hop pop and he just made himself that person. If you actually killed it, he killed it, man. I'm, I'm glad I'm saying that because I, I said it on the air. Regional idea. Stop settling for weak sound. It's time to level up your game and bring the boom. 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Like I just saw the magazine out there with you on the front cover of Variety. I never seen that before, right in Atlanta. I don't think young people read and see things like that to push them to say, you Know what I want to do with Charlemagne doing, man? I want to do what Envy doing. He got car show. Like, they don't see that enough. Enough to distract them. All they see is JD Throwing money and this throwing money. I'm gonna be a rapper. Nah, you ain't got to be no rapper. You know what I mean? Bank getting ready to hit the bank, absolutely. You know what I'm saying? Based on what he just did, that one interview, as far as I'm concerned, if he do what he got to do and he keep it at that level and the way he talked to him, it makes you gonna have people that really want to sit down and, like, let you interview them the same way you did. And Big Facts has already been that platform to me. Yeah, right. And then now to see bank doing the persp with Banks. Yeah, I agree with you, but it took 30 years. That's what I'm saying. It took. It took 30 years for somebody to say, this what we need. I'm gonna do it like this, right? And I'm so. I'm really happy to see that. I feel like that's going to turn. That's going to change the city, because that's going. People, somebody going to see that, and they going to create another one, right? And at that point, that world will open up. Because when I came here, I think the beginning of me talking about Magic City, I was like, yo, everybody in New York got a podcast. I mean, everywhere I went, everybody got podcasts. Clue them. Got one across the street in a little bar. Fat Joe, everybody. Fat Joe. I was going to all of them. I mean, Carmelo, them out in Brooklyn. It's a podcast everywhere. And I was just like, this ain't this. This bug ain't hit Atlanta yet. Nah, they got him in Atlanta because you got Big Facts. You Got bank got 85 south shows in Atlanta. You got Poor Mind podcast based out of Atlanta. 4. Y' all got about 20 out there. You know what I mean? You know, I mean, it's just. And they moving. Y' all got. Y' all got 20 out here. That's moving. I'm just saying these guys that you like the 85 South Show, I think that's probably the closest next. But after that, it ain't no real. Like, ain't nobody you gotta talk to. Four Minds is big. You should sit down. But you ain't gotta talk to him. That's all I'm saying. I'm just talking about. As far as, like, if you one of these people, I feel like, like, we don't have. We ain't had nobody that you have to talk to. Like, if they was like, call me, call direct company like Joe Jermaine, who you want to have a in depth conversation with your name, your name gonna come up and then who's the competitor to Charlemagne in Atlanta? Ain't from Atlanta too. You know, they're from Houston, but they based in Atlanta. Based in Atlanta. Right. So I just feel like, I feel like bank put himself in the category to get, you know, the Gucci man. It's all of these people that we want to hear. Gunna should be calling bank right now. Gunna should be calling bank like, yo, I need to come sit down with you and, and just to re. Not saying reply, but yeah, you know, I mean, but it ain't even like we never heard his side. It's just like I said, he just made it where like Oprah Winfrey, like, you want to watch it, you want to hear it. And he's not going to hold back on the questions. And he's creditable in that category to where you can't run no on him. That's right. Is he gonna let you know you running some bullshit? That's what I love. He was, he wasn't afraid to push back. Nah. But I mean, but he don't have. No, that's him. You know what I'm saying? He wanted, he the guy that told me when I said he's like, jd, we thought you, you want, you want to be from New York. That's who told me that. Right. And I'm like, nah, I wasn't trying to be from New York. I'm trying to just push my music. And I just feel like, like I said, I applaud him on that interview. He did it. Well, jd, I know you gotta run. Well, yeah, I mean, I. Before I go, I got an album. I think my album's coming out on Friday. Yeah, I think because I've been. I had a lot of sample clearance issues. It was supposed to come out last Friday to go with the doc, but I'm hoping it comes out this Friday because this is the last episode of Magic City this Friday. So we trying to make sure the album comes out and I'm supposed to turn it in by 4 o'. Clock. So that's what my running is doing. All right. That's what my phone is doing right now. All right. Well, J.D. jermaine Dupri, make sure you check out the Magic City doc and of course, the album. Album. We appreciate you always for joining us. Thank you. It's the Breakfast Club, is JD and always a great time. Having a conversation with Jermaine Dupree. Salute to JD Guy's done a lot in this business. Sure has. You know, continues to do more. Morning, everybody. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get to the latest with Lauren. Lauren becoming a straight F. She gets him from somebody that knows somebody, details. I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything. And everybody. She be having the late. The Latest with Lauren LaRosa. Sometimes you have facts, sometimes you have details. Sometimes you have a little bit of everything. Well, it's the latest on the Breakfast Club. So Derek Dixon, who is the man who accused Tyler Perry of sexual assault, sat down for his first interview after the filing with NBC News. And in this interview, he went over just basically and recounted, like, you know, what he filed in the lawsuit. So they have a conversation about what he alleges happened. You guys remember, that's the lawsuit for, like, $260 million. That's the White dude, right? Yes. Yep. Who was an actor on, you know, some of Tyler Perry shows. So they talk about a bunch of different things. So they. They get into what. Some of the instances that he alleges happens. And one of the things he goes into is him alleging that Tyler Perry touched his butt. Let's take a listen. 2021. Another alleged incident that you outline in your lawsuit where you're again at Tyler Perry's home in Atlanta, and it ends up with you locking yourself in a bathroom. We started out having drinks in the living room like we have done before. And it got to a point in the night where, you know, we were both kind of feeling drunk. And I remember we were walking back to the guest area, where I've stayed before, and there was this health monitor scale on the way. And I was like, what is that? And he said, well, you have to be in your underwear to measure. You know, whatever, so you should. You should do it. He reached down and. And pulled my underwear down and grabbed my ass. And I, you know, tried to stop him and pull back my underwear up. And he kind of grabbed my arms and said, no, no, no, it's okay. Just go with it. And I said, you know, stop. I don't want to be naked. I don't want this. And he was just like, no, no, I'm not gonna hurt you. And just continued, yes. So he talks about that a bit. What. Why are you looking at Envy like that? Charlamagne? I am not looking at Envy. Stop trying to be funny, Lauren. Tell your story. You were looking at envy. I was not looking at envy. You are parade. You've too long. Continue. I will continue to do what? But you mean with Tyler Perry? Yes, continue. Going back to the audio. Yes. Story he said. And then he continued. Continued to do what? So basically, cuz he talks about another time too where he like stayed at or that basically he was saying that despite him not wanting Tyler or showing allegedly that he didn't want Tyler Perry's advantage, Tyler Perry still continued to, you know, throw advances his way. Allegedly. And things of that nature. Nature. Now what is funny about this, Lauren? No, I'm laughing at you, Charlamagne. You're getting on my nerves. I'm going back to my story now. He also talks about some of the text messages that they exchanged because Tyler Perry's team is denying all of this. Tyler Perry's attorney, Matthew Boyd is saying that this is someone who obviously got close to Tyler Perry, but it was because this was all a scam or a shakedown. Now let's take a listen to him. On what the text message conversations they had. The complaint includes multiple screenshots of text messages allegedly between Dixon and Perry. Picture where he's on the jet ski. I said, nice picture. And he said, yeah, the water looks calm. And he said, nice picture. You don't see that stud in that picture? Rude. And I said, lol. Yes, that's a stud. And all these texts, I tried to de escalate them and make a joke out of them. Some of the messages more sexual in nature. Sure. One of them says, what? What's it going to take for you to have guiltless sex? Have y' all found that in therapy yet? I would hope that you would let someone hold you and make love to you, Jess. I wish you good. Who does? Who was the stud in the picture? He said Tyler Perry was the stud. Yeah. So it was a photo in the text message of Tyler Perry might be a stud. No, like not that type of stud. Jazz. Like the stud. Like a handsome, like, you know, like a. Like a. Like me. Like a dad. Definitely not you. Like, you know. Oh. So they called. I. That's a new term. They called handsome men studs. Yes. Always been that way. Men have always been studs. Like you said stud, man. You're not. No, that don't sound right. Hold on. But that's like a 80s term. It's an older term. Stud. Now they also talked about the fact that this lawsuit is. He's asking for $260 million. They want to know how did you even get to this number? Well, but granted, what right. That's what I say. What else do you entitled the conversation. I've seen a man grab your butt before. Oh, my goodness. It was you. That's a lie. That's my story. That's my story. How did he get to that number? Right, let's take a listen to that.260 in your lawsuit for damages totaling $260 million. How did you arrive at that number? Yeah, part of that number is my lost job, my lost income, the loss of the show. The other part of that is a deterrent for, you know, how do you stop a billionaire who won't stop themselves from doing. From doing this? That's a lot of money. So he was gonna make 260. Listen, they said Tyler Perry paid a lot, but 260 for $260 million. All right, half of that 130. He was gonna make 130 for the show. And then what show was he on? He lost his job. Which show was he on when Tyler probably was paying him booty and black of the. That. What is it? What's this? Your. No, he was. He was. He was not a beauty in the black, cuz I watched that. He was starring on the Oval. Oh, that was one of his best. Hey, man, let the record show. I don't believe this man. Okay? I don't believe him either. I don't care what y' all think. Be mad. I don't believe this guy. I. I just hate the fact that somebody who accuses somebody could do interviews before the actual court case. That makes no. Like, why is. Why is this who the interview with? He sat down with abc. Why is ABC supposed to be a reputable news organization even entertaining this? Like what. What. What has he presented for y' all to entertain this and give him an interview? It doesn't. It doesn't make sense. Before the they go to actual trial, they're able to do that. And if there's a jury, the jury here is one side. Tyler Perry will never be able to do that because he's being sued. So his lawyers are going to advise him to shut the F up to the trial. So you're only going to hear one side. I just think the whole thing is effed up. But if he does get 2, 260 for a butt grab, I'm coming for you. He's not giving because maybe it's because he's white as well that this is happening. I can see that. Maybe. Maybe they thought the story would be better and it would stick more because he's white. So I can see that's why. Well, guess what? I don't believe any of it. Yeah. And Tyler Perry's attorney, Matthew Boy also said that Tyler Perry refuses to be shaken down and that they are confident these fabricated claims of harassment will. Will fail in response to this sit down interview. Yes. And I just want to say one last thing. I just said, Charlemagne, it gives me 260 for. For grabbing my butt. Charlemagne didn't say he didn't grab my butt. He just said he don't have 260. But I don't know why he gonna say to me why I can't get through the story. And he in here giving you all these faces while this story is happening. There's cameras in here, Charlemagne. Like what? Who. Who. Who got cameras? You just be talking. I don't understand. Envy wanted. Envy is a part time victim. He. He like to be a victim when he want to be a stud so bad. Every time I'm on abc, I've seen you come in and grab Charlemagne Nipple. Now. Now we talk him from the back too, Envy. Yeah, you do hug him from the back a lot. I got witnesses. Nipple and butt is not the same thing. Who says Diddy's nipples got brought into court? Damn. Damn. Sure you on a roll this morning. You just don't take nothing serious no more, do you? You've been in this room way too long. First of all, okay, I've told you a million times, I'm not mature enough to have certain conversations. I think it's starting to rub off on you. You used to be the mature one. Diddy's nipples did make it into court. I was trying to give Envy some help. Everybody's nipples making in the court. How can you leave your nipples in the car? Yo, please. Where do your nipples not make? I like that. Derek Dixon said it's been humiliation. And all of that from him coming out. And now look at you up here talking about these alleged claims I haven't made. All I said is I don't believe. Then you talking about nipples. And you the one brought nipples. All right, guys. All right, guys. All right. Humiliation. But you at Tyler Perry house having glasses of wine at night, and then y' all walking to the. Walking to a guest area like you did many times before, and you get a little ass grab. And now you want 260. First of all, we don't know. We don't know if he got his ass grabbed well, yeah, that's. But from his story. And we've done this before, many of times. Times. Oh, all right, so what happened on other nights? Goofy. I don't believe him. I don't either. Okay, all right, well, that's me not believing him. I have a right to not believe people. All right, you are so. You are kind of childish because. Why? He's very childish. Why is it like that? You can. That's my opinion. Who are you giving your donkey to? A young lady named Erica Harper. She is disgusting as well. Okay, she needs to come to the front of the congregation. We would like to have a word with her. Our elders deserve better. All right, we'll get to that. Next, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. I just wanted to know how you came up with the donkey of the day. Because you're mean. I am not. What did I do today? There's a bunch of donkeys out here in the street. That is why Charlemagne is here. If we live a life where we bite our tongue based off who we may have, think we never will say anything, don't throw it to give it to him on the Breakfast Club. In the words of Charlemagne, the God, he's a donkey. Oh, man, Charlemagne. He's giving donkey the day to who now? Well, Busta Rhymes, Donkey of the day for Wednesday, September 10th goes to Erica Hopper of Washington D.C. she is 45 years old and she's accused of big scamming. Okay? I'm talking wham, bam, thank you, scam, scam. All right, super say on scamming. And let me tell you something. If there's two things that grind my gears, it's when people take advantage of kids and the elderly. Funny how life works, okay? We start off as kids that need their asses wiped by others, and then grow to be elders that need their asses wiped by others. But either way, neither version deserves to be taken advantage of. And nothing hurts worse than watching kids or the elderly getting taken advantage of of by their own family. And that's exactly what Erica Hopper did. She is accused of making more than $266,000 in unauthorized purchases from an old man's account. Would you like to know who the old man was? Let's go to NBC4 for the report, please. Montgomery County Police accused 45 year old Erica Hopper of embezzlement, theft and fraud when her grandfather went to an assisted living home in Silver Spring following the death of his wife of 1660 plus years. Hopper gained power of attorney in the statement of charges against her police Accuse her of using that to spend her grandfather's money, including from the sale of his house, on herself From November of 2021 until June of this year. Expenditures listed include payments on a 2022 Kia Stinger, the payoff of credit card balances on two cards, stage area seats at an usher concert, elective cosmetic surgery, trips to New Orleans and Las Vegas, designer clothing and accessories, and rent payments totaling more than $266,000. Charging documents accused Hopper of listing her grandfather's pension and Social Security, making him a co tenant to qualify for an apartment at a luxury building steps from Union market in Northeast D.C. police say he remained in the nursing home during that time. Really, Erica, your 95 year old grandfather, if your grandfather touching that kind of patient paper, he probably got you in the will anyway. If your grandfather touching that kind of paper, you could have probably just asked him for what you want. Then you get the money and spend it on a new car, luxury apartment, cosmetic surgery. What you got? A bbl? Luxury clothing, concert tickets. Concert tickets. Who did you go see? The ratchet? Oh, you wanted to have big fun on your grandfather's dime. She actually went to go see other Russia and didn't even get no cherries. Now, I know you had power of attorney for your grandfather, Erica, but that doesn't mean power to exploit. Okay, we was just talking about this earlier because Cardi B was on Jennifer Hudson saying how your kids are, you know, going to take care of you when you get older. They supposed to you should be able to rely on family when you get older, but you can't change a player's game in the ninth inning. Okay, once the scammer, always a scammer. And no, Erica is not Nigerian. I know you was thinking it, but a Nigerian would never do their grandfather like this. Because Nigerians understand. Those who respect the elderly pave their own road towards success. The Bible even says you should submit to your elders with humility. That's first Peter 5. 5. Erica, you was not humble. You was arrogant. Crazy thing is, you wasn't scamming your grandfather, you were scamming yourself. Okay, what kind of soulless person steals from a 95 year old road? Especially a person who was probably gonna leave you something anyway. Elders are supposed to pass down blessings, not get bled dry by their own bloodlines. Okay, I don't know who needs to hear this this morning, but please listen to your Uncle Charlotte. Taking advantage of old folks ain't hustling. That's heartless. Okay, if you'll rob your own Grandfather, you'll rob anybody. And that's why you have to. You, Erica, should have to deal with maximum consequences. They need to make an example of you. That man is not 95. He fought through segregation and probably two hip replacements, okay? He should not have to fight his own granddaughter for his bank account. Please give Erica Hopper the sweet sounds of the Hamiltones. Gotta make an example of her. Now, I was thinking. I was thinking, Master question. What? That's your granddaughter. She stole from you. It's wrong. It's foul. But do you press charges on your granddaughter? Now, I got dementia. I don't even remember. Y' all do what y' all do, but I don't know nothing. Make sure my money back in my account. Make sure my money back in my account. I don't remember. Foul. It's horrible. But do you press charges on your granddaughter? It's not about whether or not he pressing charges on some other family getting charges pressed on her because she committed a crime. Well, some other family members. She needs some type of consequence, like you said. I mean, yeah, you press charges on Louise, man, and then, like, that's your granddaughter. Right, but she was probably in the will anyway. If he touching that type of paper, like, you don't even know. That's crazy. You don't know because she probably gonna go to jail for some time. Time like this. Ain't know. 30 days. She made a choice and. But that's your granddaughter, 45. She's a 45 year old woman who made a choice, still your granddaughter. Choices have consequences. I agree. But still your granddaughter. I don't care. You know better. What you talking about? Did she care about me as a grandfather when she was stealing from me? No, it was wrong, man. Shut up. But you still don't want. What would you do at 90 years old and. And, And. And Madison's daughter do this to you? You 90? I don't want her to go to jail. It's foul. It's wrong. I'm not saying. I'm not saying it's right. But you still don't want your granddaughter. Your granddaughter. All right, well, forget it. And then first of all, Charlemagne, who was thinking that they was Nigerian? Why you had to say that? Who said that? You. I'm tired of y' all accusing me of things I didn't say. No, you did. You said, I know. Everybody thinking it's Nigerian. Nobody thought what somebody thinking. Never happened. Roll the tape. Never happened. Never said. A clown never said that. All right, well, thank you for that donkey today. Fake news now when we come back, just hilarious. Oaks. I wouldn't say that. When we come back, Shaka Segoa is joining us. He has a new book, how to Be Free, a proven guide to escape in life's hidden prison. This is my guy. He's also the. He's a New York Times best selling author. I'm sure you've read some of Shaka's work before. Me and Shaka was actually at Rikers Island a couple of days ago talking to the inmates because, you know, that's what he does. A lot of his work. His work. And he always shows up for me for my mental wealth. Expos, man, just a really good brother. And this book right here is really good because so many of us are trapped in hidden prisons that we cannot get out of. And he has created a guide to help us get out of them. So. All right, we'll get to that. Next. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy with. We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. Yes, indeed, Chaka Sengor. Welcome back, brother. How you feeling, man? I'm blessed. I'm blessed. Thank you all so much for having me back, man. Chaka just put out a amazing new body of work, man. A new book, how to Be Free, a proven guide to escaping life's hidden prisons. Man, what is a hidden prison? It's the things that you don't see that stand in the way of you living the best life for yourself. When I thought about this big idea and created this kind of blueprint to help people live the life that they're fully capable of and fully deserving of. I recognize that we all had these hidden prisons, you know, self doubt, negative self talk, you know, one that's one of the big things that kind of stand in the way. But it's also things like anger, grief, shame, things from our childhood that really doesn't allow us to show up fully and authentically in our full potential. You know, I wanted to. I know you got the book out, but there's a lot that's been going on, and I figured you would be the right person to ask some questions about. So everything going on in Atlanta, it seems like people, I wouldn't say glorify the street and glorify things that happen in the street. And I feel like sometimes people don't know how to get out of it. Right. You see what happened in Atlanta. Everybody's a snitch. This person's a Rat, when do, when do you get to an age or what do you tell those youngers? This is, hey, it's not worth it. We see what's happening, but it seems like they don't learn their lesson. So what do you tell them? One of those little, those little young brothers out there. That's a, that's a prison. That's not hidden. I think one of the things with our, with our culture specifically, like hip hop culture is we've kind of intermingled the idea that these guys are really street guys and really they artists. They're kids who are trying to figure out how to make money using the talent, but also using the stories from a background that society has sold us on as being like the way to show up in the world, right? Like the only way we can make take it. And what I tell the young people is that it's made way more money in legitimate enterprise. And like, I was pretty decent with street street sales, but I can tell you I wake make way more money in legitimate enterprise. And the accessibility to it now is something we see. I mean, like, you can take a phone and build a whole career, right? And so I think we have to separate, like, what's really the streets from like, what's music culture and these kids pretending to be street guys. Because it's kind of ridiculous if you think about it. If you're making all this money in music, then why are you going backwards? Because there's not many guys that's really financially successful coming for the streets. Like. And I mean, you talk to any other guys that actually are, you know, recognized from being in that environment, they tell you most guys don't make real money in the streets. Most guys are basically minimum wage, you know, workers. So. So if you're making all this legitimate money in music, why would you kind of try to intermingle that with this identity? That's not real, man. That's a great point. And what do you say to people who act like the streets is an industry? And what I mean by that is you'll have folks that'll say things to you like, well, who determines what's legal and illegal? Or who determines what's right and what's wrong? Because they'll say there's people out here that make money selling alcohol. There's people that's out here that's making money selling marijuana. Now, I mean, like, that's not the same. Like discretes is not a real industry. Yeah, no, I mean, it's a kind of dispersed industry. Right? It's like anything goes. But when you, when you look at how, you know, for, for example, the marijuana industry, right, how that's evolved to become legitimate enterprise, right? Like that's where we should be focusing. How do we change laws and policies to work to our advantage instead of being, you know, victimized by these policies and then somebody else reaps all the benefits. And so, so, you know, I'm always telling, telling, you know, the young people that I mentor is really think about how do you get ownership in whatever it is you're interested in. Like, that's, I've been in Silicon Valley for three years, which actually was one of the inspirations for writing this book because I, I work with people that's like ultra wealthy and yet I see them have kind of like some of the same prisons that, you know, I see people in the neighborhood, I've seen people who was actually in real prison have that same kind of mental blocks that doesn't allow them to show up authentically. Even though it looks like they got all the trappings of success, they still not happy and fulfilled. So that's, to me, it's more like how do you get an equity? But also how are you creating like the mental equity to really live a life that you want to live? I got one more question with that. Is there a code when it comes to the street, in your opinion? But we had a conversation about cold. Is there a code, Is there a code that you're supposed to follow or is it just, just it's illegal activity, you know, I mean, or is there something that, guidelines that should be followed? I mean, I grew up in the era of like crack cocaine, so I can't speak to if there's codes now. I haven't been in the streets in like 30 some years and I'm 53 years old, man, successful businessman. I'm an entrepreneur, married, I got a kid, I got investments. But I do, you know, I mean, I still do a lot of work with people in prison and in the neighborhoods and you know, I kind of know that, that the codes are really your personal values, right? Everybody can say that they're real until them handcuffs go on, until you're in that interrogation room and you're really facing a life sentence. And that's what, that's what we don't talk about is how many different ways you can end up serving life without actually even really doing anything meaningful just by associations, right? You know, when you're talking about those RICO charges, a lot of these guys not making real money, they just around and then you get swooped up up and the way the feds players they gonna load up everything they can charge you with and then most likely you'll plead out which is like 95% of people do. Stop settling for weak sound. It's time to level up your game and bring the boom. Hit the town with the ultra durable LG X Boom portable speaker and enjoy vibrant sound wherever you go. Elevate your listening experience to new heights because let's be real, your music deserves deserves it. The future of sound is now with LG X Boom and for a limited time save 25@LG.com with code fall 25 bring the boom xboom I'm Hunter, host of Hunting for Answers on the Black Effect Podcast Network. Join me every weekday as I share bite sized stories of missing and murdered Black women and girls in America. There are several ways we can all do better at Black protecting Black women. 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And any little bit of money you were going to make or any little bit of clout you're gonna make ain't like worth the, the 10 life sentences, two life sentences or one life sentence, you know, I mean, it ain't worth missing your family, wife, your kids. It ain't worth it, man. You know, the 19 years in prison that I served, I watched life go by. You know, I came home, my younger siblings were adults, my nephews and nieces didn't even know me. You know, they had to get to know me. And so you can't, you can't replace those years. You know, there's nothing you can do to get that time back. And this is what I can tell you for sure about, about prison life is the toughest break under those circumstances. Everybody, when they, when they hit that pillow at night, they're wishing that they would have made different life choices, you know what I mean? So I wouldn't wish that on anybody. And I try to discourage guys. I think one of the things I will say that I'm proud of, that I'm starting to see in our culture is more interest being, you know, placed on actually legitimate financial investments. You know, I think about what the young brother's doing with earn your leisure. You know, I think about wallow and some of the brothers I've been able to, to interact with. And I'm like, yo, that's, that's a move right there. Because it's still cool at the end of the day. If it's really about making money, investments is a way to make a, make a lot of money, you know, and that's the freedom that I even talk about in the book is like, like financial freedom, you know, how are you taking advantage of these opportunities that's really right in front of you. And my, you know, my philosophy is simple. I came from 19 years in prison, seven years in solitary confinement, to becoming really, really successful not only as an author, but also as an investor. So my philosophy is like, if I can do it, coming from those circumstances, what excuse you got? You know what I mean? So I tell my mentees, you got to take every excuse off the table because I've done all the hard work for, for you. And that's, you know, that's what I've done in this book is like, here's a framework and a blueprint for you to literally live the freest life possible. We're still kicking it with Shaka Sekor. His new book, how to Be Free, A proven guide to escape in Life's Hidden prisons. Charlemagne. One of the biggest hidden prisoners I see is people, you know, being defined by their past mistakes or not knowing how to let go of their past mistakes. So how do you keep from being defined by your past mistakes when the system and sometimes even your own own people want to keep you stuck there? Man, I stay out the comments section. It's brutal out there, man. No, but, but, but really it's a lot of self affirming care, right? It's like negative self talk is one of the biggest self imposed prisons I've found where even successful people are doubting themselves or you know, dealing with imposter syndrome. Like, why do I, why am I in this room? Do I really belong in this room? And so for me, you know, the way that I've come kind of map my life out is really through writing it down. Like journalist, one of the greatest hacks in life is like, when you see it, you can be super clear on, hey, here's who I actually am, not who they say I am. I get judged all the time. Like, why are you able to do some of these things? You, you know, you went to pray. I went to prison for a homicide. You know, it's one of the most regrettable acts in my life and it's something I could Never undo. Which is why I'm so conscious about talking about, of the young guys, about the decisions that they make. And I've also lived 15 years of freedom where I've been able to create, you know, a lot of value for communities that I'm in. I've invested in community in a real way. And so I've done way more good than I've done bad. But the reality is people are going to bring that up, you know, they're going to judge you for that. And so that's why that self talk is so important. And journaling and really writing it down and getting super clear about who you are are really is what makes the world a difference. Do you feel like trauma is the root of all hidden prisons? I think trauma is one of the core anchoring pieces of the hidden prisons. You know, a lot of how we see our lives has been shaped by our childhood. And there's like big trauma and small trauma. Right. But I think it's. It's really shaped by just negative experiences because some don't quite rise to the level of trauma trauma, but they do rise to the level of like, making you think about something in a way that's unpleasant. And I think that's where a lot of the negative self talk comes from. It's like, you know, you're an environment, Somebody's like, oh, you can't accomplish that. And now you've adopted that's not necessarily trauma, it's just negative input. But now it has you questioning whether you can accomplish a thing or not. Right. And so I think there's like the, the kind of big trauma and then there's like this kind of small negative inputs. How do we use your new book, how to be Free to shift from telling young people, especially young brothers, to do better, to actually creating healing spaces that deal with that trauma. That's a great question. I think we saw a lot of that yesterday when we was at Riker. So one of the things that I've done with this book is I started the largest book club in prisons. So we gave the book away to 1300 prisons to about a million people who are incarcerated. Because I want to make sure that they had access to this information in this framework so that they can live the most free life possible, even though their circumstances doesn't look. Look free. And I think what we do is we start study groups. You know, we start to really have these deep conversations. And like, it was mind blowing to see how the people who are incarcerated leaned into this book specifically. They had Questions, they had, thoughts, they had all these things, because we did create a real framework within the book for them to kind of of, you know, guide the conversation. And it was amazing, you know what I'm saying, to really see how that played out. And I would love to do that out here, where we started to connect the dots, you know, especially in our culture where it's like, it's wild. Sometime when I think about rap and all the things that they're rapping about, I'm like, I really live that life. And. But I may not be the person that they see as being accessible because I'm not over indexing on my past. I'm like, listen, I'm living a whole different life. And I want to bring you to this part, the of. Of it, not that old life, you know what I mean? But I think this is a book opportunity that, you know, I would love to see more brothers and sisters in the culture, like, starting study groups and think tanks around this framework, because it really is one of those problems, and we don't have nothing like it in our culture. Right. Like, you know, when I was. When I was set out to write this particular book, I really was like, man, I thought about the books that helped me in my life while I was incarcerated as a man. Think of the Secret man search for me and all these books. And I didn't see any book that was authored by somebody who really had lived an experience that I had lived. And so I was like, oh, it's up to me to create that. And that's how we ended up with this book. And shout out to my brother Ben Horowitz, who actually encouraged me to write a lesson book which was really powerful and impactful. Is it desire to be accepted a hidden prison? Oh, absolutely. Yeah. I think it's one of the biggest hidden prisons is that we're where. And it's really. Who are you trying to be accepted by? And what do you think that they have that you don't have inside yourself? And I think when you. When you begin to strengthen your sense of who you are as a human being, then you would draw to you what you need. But you won't go out seeking acceptance from any and everybody. Well, the book is out right now. And thank you for inviting me to Rikers yesterday, man. Shaka was clowning me because I took security to write Security Envy. He took a security personnel in an environment. I didn't think about it. 8,000, yo. It was wild. I don't practice bad habits. Was that weird? Like, I Was. I was. I was laughing the whole way as I was thinking about what is going to happen when this security walk in. And it's like literally hundreds of officers that are armed. And I'm like, sh. Man, you rolling in here with me, man, what are you doing? I ain't even think about it. You're good in any hood, in any prison hood when you roll it with me. I understand that. I didn't have a practice. Bad habits, you know what I'm saying? You move. You move a certain way. That's right. Yeah, that's right. But that was stupid, right? And then he took his firearm when he came in, and, you know, he used to be a cop. So I was like, yo, you ever wanted to be a CEO at Rikers? He was like, hell, hell, no. Jesus Christ. He's also doing your welfare expo. Yeah, no, not this year. Book tour this year. I'm gonna miss it, man. That. That's. I've done it a couple of years. That's what I'm so used to saying, man. It's one of the best. Best experience. So I'd really encourage everybody to go check it out. And we're going to do one on Rikers Island. We're definitely doing all right. Yeah, we're gonna make that happen. But, you know, I'm glad you did bring that up, though, because even though Shaka's not doing it this year, the years he's done it, it was such an important. It was so, so important to have you there as well as Wallow. Because to your point, every year that we did it, there was always people there who had either just got out of prison or got people who are in prison right now. And we don't understand how that impacts their mentor, especially brothers. And that just came home. It's still institutionalized. Yeah. And there were people, like, literally saying, yo, y' all need to add this component to the mental Health Expo, because those are the people that are dealing with it. Absolutely. And I'll definitely be there next year. I'm. I'm so sad to be missing this one, but I'm super excited to be out on tour with the book and. And celebrating, man. It's book number three, man. So I'm. This is. It's actually surreal, you know, to. And you know, you've written books. You know how hard it is to get a book book up. Book out in the world. So a few weeks ago, man, so y' all holding hands, you had your hair braided all nice and neat backwards, man. You know you know the wild thing about. About the relationship with Oprah's. We're generally friends, man. And, like, when I. When I first wrote my book, I don't know if I told you the story, Envy, but I wrote my first book in solitary, and I was like, yo, anybody want to read this book? And the guy was like, like, man, this ain't over. Don't nobody want to read that. And I was like, damn. I was like, that was cold. But then I wrote it down as a goal open and read three of my books and. And invited me to her home multiple times and said that you were her greatest interview ever. Imagine Oprah Winfrey saying that about you. This is my greatest interview ever. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. And then we became real friends, man. So that's. That's my girl. And I shout her out all the time, and she always reaches out. She. I'm sure she'll be like, congrats on pub day, Shaka. You know, so she's genuinely. She's who she says she is. Love it. Like, she cooked, though. What did y'. All. Oh, she didn't cook. We didn't eat. Okay, okay, okay. No tequila. That time we was working. It was. It was. It was. It was great. Hungry man. You know what I'm saying? She likes Casa Dragonis. No, she actually sent me a couple few bottles, though, that she. She upped my game on the tequila. Some years ago, she asked me what my favorite was. I told her, she was like, eh, let me send you. Let me send you something. And she sent me three bottles with my name on it. I bet you it was Catherine Dragonis. Absolutely. And I drunk all three of them. Okay, Jesus. All right. Not at the same time. Well, pick up the book. How to be Free. Ishaka Suma. Proven guide to escaping life's hidden prison. Don't forget that part. That's the. Everybody got a hidden prison. That's right. For every hidden prison, there's a door, and this book is the key. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get to the latest with Lauren. Lauren becoming a street fan. She gets them from somebody that knows somebody. I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything. She be having the latest on the Latest with Lauren LaRosa. Sometimes you have facts, sometimes you have details. Sometimes she have a little bit of everything. Oh, it's the latest on the Breakfast Club. So yesterday. Yeah, I started with this yesterday. I went to Harlem fashion. Harlem's fashion rose Kickoff to New York fashion week. It was a mini fashion show, but there were. It was also the style awards, and they honored Ruth E. Carter a ton of different people, but they also took the time to honor Usher. He received the Virgil ablo award, which was a huge award of the evening. Let's take a listen to Usher as he accepts the award work. It's a philosophy that, believe it or not, I don't know that I meant to adopt it, But Virgil had this idea, you guys know about the 3% rule. And this idea that innovation really starts by altering something that is familiar. 3%. So that right there became kind of a model for how I would view what I was to able introducing again. But I introduced it with what many people in my team call my ambition of just looking up while they look right and left and always have my best interest in my back. I just dream and I see something that I think is a little bit better. Yeah. So the. The reason why this award is so impactful is because Harlem's fashion row for years now, and they've grown into such a big business and big company. They've been spotlighting black artists, creatives, influencers, just people who are black. And, you know, when it comes to fashion fashion week, people always say, we need to have a seat at the table. Their thing has always been, we don't need to sit at the table. We're building the table so y' all can come, because this is the table. And they spotlighted Usher because of all the strides that he's made in music. But Virgil Abloh, as we know, was such a big force in fashion as a black creative. So they honor him with this award now, and Usher received it. But one of the things that was big that Usher talked about was why it meant so much to him to receive the award in Virgil's name and Virgil's 3% rule. Let's take a listen to today. My pop, my nanny, my nanny, nanny, my aunt Polly and uncle George, and all of these people who were really significant parts of my ambition. Tenacious little kid who wasn't raised with a father, but they taught me to dream. They taught me to run wild and use my imagination in fashion and all of those things. Things that, although I didn't know that's what I was doing, I found by being around them, understanding the culture of the south and you know, what it is to be proud of something. I'm happy that the lord has given me this opportunity to do what I Do I recognize him over more than anything for being savior to me in my hardest moments. Sometimes that. Switch to audio. Sorry, y'. All. But yeah. So Usher talking about the south and what this meant to him was also important too, because they talked a lot about HBCUs. And you guys know I was just at Del State yesterday and how in the south but also just, you know, here on the east coast putting money into black students with which Harlem's Fashion Row is doing a lot of. They have a huge investment fund that they do is important. So wanted to give Usher, you know, congratulations there. I was there. Harlem Fashion Road took really good care of me. Shout out to Brandis and all of her team last night. Slick Rick was there as well too. There were so many people in the building last night to support the organization. So drop on the clues bombs for Usher. Can't never get enough flowers. If you ask. That's me. Yeah. That man is an icon living. And, you know, when people have achieved everything that, you know, guys like Usher have achieved, they should be celebrated. Oh, yeah. Every chance they get. Every single chance they get. And I think it's fire too, because he's been supporting this organization before it was even a huge organization to support, which always means a lot. Now, shifting gears. Speaking of creators, kaisernet, you guys remember, he reviewed Drake. I'm glad that we're finally saying his name right. We've been saying his name for so long. I know. And I be trying to. Sometimes I still slip up and do it, but then I try to make sure I don't. But yeah, we've been saying it wrong for a very long time. But Kaiet, he's responding to Drake. So Drake posted Kaiet's top of his head, right? Forehead. Yeah, it's. It was his forehead, but more so it was the fact that he has dreads with a low cut. So there's this photo posted online. Make sure you guys go take a look at it in the room so you can see it as well that Drake posted on his, like, swipe through. And Kai's hair is, like low in the middle, but then he has dreads coming out the side. And he sees this. And this is because, remember Kai got on stream and said he felt like The Iceman Part 3 episode was trash. He's been a huge Drake fan that we know of. So this was because you're a fan of somebody when they put out something that's whack, you can't say it's trash. And you can't be honest. You can't be honest about it. Not these days. I mean now. Oh, you're a Drake hater. No. You should be able to say if I like a record or if I. I don't like record. I'm still a fan of that artist. I just don't like that song. Yes, I do think people were calling him a Drake hater but I think it's Kai. Kai. But Kai is always very like neutral. If he likes something he like it, if he don't, he don't and whatever. But his response to Drake posting him in response to him responding to Drake was funny. Let's take a listen to Kai. Why would he post this up? Drake, I'm calling him right now. I'm so like that. I'm calling him right now. I haven't spoken to him in so long it's not ringing. Your call has been forwarded. I don't beef with Drake. But why is he posting my like this? Come on. That's why. E F Body. There you go. It don't matter. People always going to see the picture and be like wow, you need a haircut. This is a retwist. And never even know what the after after we had to. They see this bro. They a know why you didn't have a retw. You didn't get a ret. Because he was worried about other. So what was funny? I missed it. It was funny. You got to see the picture. Did you see the picture? It was funny because. Right Jess, thank you for the face because if you listen, you know it's funny. And his friend is sitting next to him trying to make him feel better but low key, he's making him feel worse. He called Drake first. It rang international. Drake didn't answer. So somebody on the chat said call him FaceTime. So he FaceTime audio. He still didn't answer yet. All I know is I know that hurt Drake's soul because Drake want the validation of them young screamers so bad. So you got one of the biggest guys, Kai Sinette saying that Iceman was trash. Oh, I know that ice melted quick. See I, I don't, I don't understand it. You're an artist, right? You're gonna put out a lot of records and everybody's not gonna connect with other people. Told us a long time ago, just cause you're, you're an artist and I'm sensitive about my. Yeah, but, but I love you as an artist. I just don't like this record. But why can't this just be Drake just responding? He Ain't blocked, Kai. Kai said he wasn't blocked, right. And then, to be honest with you, I thought it was like some type of promo. Maybe Drake gonna end up up on the marathon that Kai is doing. That would be smart. Was that. You know, it just doesn't seem malicious. Nothing crazy. Just a little jokey joke. They've been promoting him on there. I wouldn't be surprised. They've been promoting a Kai and Drake scream. It seemed like all year. That never happened. It doesn't happen. So we'll see what happens. But I also too, wanted to talk about Marlon Wayans on kaiserream. Hilarious. Oh, my God. I love to watch the marrying of the two. He is MVP of Mafia Thon, in my opinion. And there are so many different moments we could have pulled from this that were hilarious. But let's take a listen to. They were freestyling. It was Reggie and Marlon Wayans going back and forth on the freestyle. Let's take a listen. Then he went and touched her on her thigh. We gonna cry. Let's do this in these streets. Let's do this in the rap. Let's do it on the beat. Let's pull out our. What the is you talking about? You know why people like Marlon Ways and Kevin Hart go on there and actually a Kiki Palmer going there and actually do well, because they got talent. Because they're funny, because they've been in movies, they've been on tv, and they've been doing this for a long, long, long, long, long, long, long time. And also too, I think when you see regular guests, like other music artists come, even though they watch the stream and they know the segments Kai's gonna do, they always act like they don't know how to jump in and participate. Marley, they come from the variety show. He was the best one thus far. No, he had other bomb guests and all of that. But, like, Marlon is just. Just belongs, right? You know what I mean? Like, that was so funny. I do think it was rather random how Marlon was there with Kehlani. Like, Kehlani came in. I thought that was while Marlon was there. I thought that was random as hell. And also to those artists and athletes can't do what the actors and comedians do. Like, an artist ain't come to never be on the level of talent as a Marlin or Kevin or Kiki Palmer. They're artists. They can rap and sing and, you know, dance. Like if in Living Color could meet stream. Like, it was. It was really good. It was. I. I watched it. Yeah, right. Like you said, if. If Living Color could have met Stream, that would be funny. Yeah. All right, well, that is the latest with Lauren. Let's get to the mix. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Jess. Hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We had a lot of people that stopped. We had Jermaine Dupree that stopped through earlier. Yes, indeed. Salute to Jermaine Dupree, man. Listen, Jermaine Dupree is one of those individuals that you're not going to appreciate talking to until a long, long, long time from now, because people don't realize how legendary Jermaine Dupri actually is. We're such a. We're such a prisoner of the moment people that we forget what people have accomplished, what he's done in this industry. That's right. So when they get celebrated and Billboard says, yo, they're. Jermaine Dupree is the number one producer of the 21st century. People might look at that and be like, what? And like, no, go look at his resume. He's stupid. Yo, did y' all ask him? I seen something that went viral like a couple weeks ago. Did y' all get to ask him, did he really say that Escape was a hard group to develop because they was ugly? Oh, we talked about that before. Yeah, now that wasn't. Okay, all right. We didn't talk about this interview, but we didn't say ugly though. But you. Yeah, but he's. No, he said that. No, no, no, no. I know y' all didn't say. Somebody said that. He said it. He did. He's always said stuff like that. Like when he had three dark skinned members of Escape in the, in the 90s. So he's. I've heard him talk about that before. Even up here, he's talking about it. Oh, okay, cool. I just never heard him speak on. I just heard that he said it, cuz. Remember, Biggie said. Biggie said in a song back in the day he would have sex with RuPaul before he have sex with them. Ugly ass Escape girl. Wow. And no, he did not. No, he did not. What? He definitely. Yes. Yes. Wow. Okay, I'mma send you the song. It's called Dreams. I'm going send you this song. The song. Wow. Nobody said nothing. Not back then. I mean, but. But we didn't realize how much that impacted them back then, cuz, you know, you didn't have the Internet and all of that kind of stuff like that. Well, yes. No, no, no, no, no, no. Nobody said nothing about him wanting to have sex with RuPaul. Oh, no. This was the 90s. Different times. Okay, all right, all right, all right. Also, Shaka Seagull for joining us this morning. Man, make sure you go pick up Shaka's book, how to Be Free, a proven guide to escaping life's hidden prisons. Man, for everybody out there who feel like they trapped in a hidden prison, Shaka's book is for you. All right. Can I promote Cleveland? Cleveland, Ohio? Your girl, just hilarious, will be there this Friday and this Saturday. We got four shows. Two shows this Friday, two shows Saturday at the Cleveland Funny Bone. Y' all get your tickets@JessOfficial.com if you have. Not yet. I will not be doing meet and greet. I don't want to get sick two times in a row. I'm not doing it. So, Cleveland, get your tickets. The shows are actually almost sold out. Love y' all so much. Can't wait to see you. Charlamagne, you got a positive note. I do, man. It's simple. Do not confuse motion and progress. Okay? Because a rocking horse keeps moving but does not make any progress. Have a great day. That was the dumbest that I know. Find another one. What do we talk about? You'll get it. You'll get it. One day. You'll get it. A rock and horse don't move, so. I didn't say that. I said a rocking horse keeps moving, but it's not making any progress. It don't go nowhere. It's like being on the treadmill, running in place. You think you're getting somewhere, but you ain't. You're going nowhere fast, but you work it out. You're not going nowhere. Breakfast Club. Dude, I'm finished. Or y' all done? Stop settling for weak sound. It's time to level up your game and bring the boom. Hit the town with the old ultra durable LG XBoom portable speaker and enjoy vibrant sound wherever you go. Elevate your listening experience to new heights because, let's be real, your music deserves it. The future of sound is now with LG XBoom. And for a limited time, save 25%@LG.com with code Fall25. Bring the Boom X Boom. Short on time, but big on true crime. On a recent episode of the podcast Hunting for Answers, I highlighted the story of 19 year old Lachey Dungy. But she never knocked on that door. She never made it inside. 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