FULL SHOW: Pooh Shiesty Arrested For Allegedly Kidnapping Gucci Mane + Swae Lee & John Hope Bryant Interview

Summary

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The Breakfast Club Podcast — April 3, 2026

Episode: FULL SHOW: Pooh Shiesty Arrested For Allegedly Kidnapping Gucci Mane + Swae Lee & John Hope Bryant Interview
Hosts: DJ Envy, Angela Yee, (Charlamagne Tha God out), Lauren LaRosa
Special Guests: Swae Lee, John Hope Bryant

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Breakfast Club, hosted by DJ Envy and Angela Yee (with Lauren LaRosa subbing in for Charlamagne), covers the explosive arrest of rappers Pooh Shiesty and Big 30 for allegedly kidnapping and robbing Gucci Mane, features lively interviews with Swae Lee (on his debut solo album "Same Difference"), and John Hope Bryant (on economic empowerment for Black America). Current events, listener calls, new music, and lively banter round out the jam-packed show.

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Key Segments & Insights

1. Front Page News: Political Shakeups & Rising Costs

• [06:20] Mimi Brown Recap
  • President Trump Fires Attorney General Pam Bondi: Bondi ousted amid Epstein files controversy; her deputy Todd Blanche is acting AG. Debate rages about document release and motivations.
    • Mimi Brown: “It's about the Epstein files, and also she wouldn't attack Trump's opponents... lots of different flubs.” ([08:29])
  • Prescription Drug Tariffs: Trump signs executive order placing up to 100% tariffs on imported brand-name drugs—expected to increase costs for Americans.
    • DJ Envy: “Americans can’t afford just more money going out and not enough coming in, right?” ([11:26])

2. Listener Call-In Segment (“Get It Off Your Chest”)

• [12:42] Callers Sound Off
  • Topics range from Netflix spoilers and struggles with inflation to relationships, Sheltering kids, and giving “Donkey of the Day” to Pooh Shiesty and Big 30.
    • Caller: “The biggest donkey of the day to Pooh Shiesty and Big 30.” ([15:45])
    • DJ Envy: “Charlamagne is out, so it’s the people’s donkey today. Call us up.” ([16:13])

3. Entertainment News: Meg Thee Stallion’s Broadway Triumph

• [20:13] Angela Yee Reports
  • Meg Thee Stallion wows audiences starring in "Moulin Rouge" Broadway reboot—earning an ovation, proves versatility.
    • Angela Yee: “She did amazing. Standing ovation at the end... Welcome back to Broadway, Megan.” ([21:43])

4. Headline Story: Pooh Shiesty and Big 30 Arrested for Alleged Kidnapping of Gucci Mane

• [21:56] Lauren LaRosa Deep Dive
  • Breakdown of Events:
    • Nine individuals including Pooh Shiesty, his father, and Big 30 arrested in federal case for alleged attempted kidnapping and armed robbery of Gucci Mane at a Dallas recording studio.
    • Context: Pooh Shiesty wanted out of contract—allegedly forced Gucci to sign release at gunpoint; other victims robbed; security outnumbered; incident documented on video and with items appearing on social.
    • US Attorney Ryan Rabil: “Williams Jr. [Pooh Shiesty] produced an AK style pistol and forced one of the victims to sign a release...” ([24:21])
    • Allegations include Big 30 recording video “confession,” confiscation of jewelry, and that victims feared for their lives.
    • Lauren breaks down the confusing and reckless nature: "Reading all the documents, I'm like, this is like a movie..." ([75:49])
    • Ongoing investigation—no formal charges yet, but damning evidence via ankle bracelet tracking, rental records, and surveillance.

Listener & Host Reactions:

• Listeners and hosts voice shock at the alleged stupidity—risking freedom and careers.
  • DJ Envy: “Pooh Shiesty just came home a couple of months ago... why put yourself in that predicament to go back?” ([28:32])
  • Caller: “How you thought this was going to turn out? He wanted out of his contract but instead he wanted out of his freedom.” ([79:01])

5. Interview: Swae Lee on Solo Debut & Songwriting Legacy

• [40:45] Swae Lee Joins the Studio
  • Why So Long for Solo Album ("Same Difference")?: Group focus (Rae Sremmurd) and global tours delayed solo drop.
    • Swae Lee: "I've been telling everybody—solo album on the way... boom, boom... crazy timing." ([41:01])
  • Hitmaking and Flexibility: Discusses his unique versatility—can do trap, Afrobeats, R&B, even country (“all my fans come from different demographics... just connecting all the dots.” - [42:57])
  • Songwriting Stories: Tells the (in)famous story about “Unforgettable” (initially his), working with French Montana, his surprise at being the “hook guy,” and ghostwriting, notably for Beyoncé's “Formation.”
    • Swae Lee: “Just the formation, like, you know what I'm saying? Formation... ladies in formation, for real.” ([48:39])
  • Versatility & Gemini Duality: Proud of being a shape-shifter—"I'm like a hood pop star.” ([53:16])
  • Music Loss & Lessons: Talks about the pain of hard drive losses and nearly losing major works due to theft. ([54:42])
  • On Waking Up for The Breakfast Club: “Had to get used to it... that’s so difficult to me, like, waking up early, especially after a long night.” ([56:48])
  • Political Viral Moment: Addresses (and walks back) his viral tweet telling fans not to vote for Kamala Harris; clarifies he does not support any politician, values independent political research, and reflects on misinformation.
    • Swae Lee: “I don't hate Kamala Harris. I don't love no politician, though... I do my research... I see what they really gonna do for the people.” ([57:31])
    • Admits he didn’t vote: “I didn’t know who could I vote for... I don’t agree with either one of these people.” ([62:47])

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6. Interview: John Hope Bryant on Black Capitalism & Economic Urgency

• [86:20] John Hope Bryant on “Capitalism for All”
  • Economic Literacy is Power: Critiques the false sense of progress for Black Americans, urging a shift to ownership in business, finance, and infrastructure.
    • John Hope Bryant: “We cash a check, we don't write it. We had access to the lunch counter. We don't own it... we bounce the basketball, we don't own the stadium.” ([90:41])
  • Socio-Economic Wake-Up Call: Describes Black America as moving from a “protected bubble” (via civil rights gains) into a harsh new reality of political, social, and economic vulnerability:
    • “Now... the civil rights assumptions are fading away... you're on your own. Economically, we're being thrown into the fire...” ([91:46])
  • Hopeful Signs: Notes increasing hunger for financial knowledge among everyday people.
    • “Something's happened, man. I don't know what it is, but it's inspiring... people are eating information up.” ([98:29])
  • Call for Mastery: Urges listeners: “Let's stop hating this game [capitalism] and master it.” ([99:55])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Lauren LaRosa (on Pooh Shiesty/Gucci Mane case):
  “This business meeting was supposed to be between Pooh Shiesty and RD, who people are saying is Gucci Mane... Pooh Shiesty allegedly wanted to be released from this contract. According to the documents... pulled out an AK style weapon... and it gets to a point where his security guards, because they peep the conversation, getting a little hostile…” ([26:29])

• Swae Lee (on his “hook guy” legacy):
  “They call me the hook guy, Captain Hook, you know what I'm saying? So I'm running with that. I'm continuing the legacy...” ([47:40])

• DJ Envy (on the Pooh Shiesty drama):
  “How did you want this to end? If they were law or off duty police officers, they have to report it. He’s the money maker... The kids love him. It’s like, how is this supposed to end?” ([79:15])

• John Hope Bryant (on economic change):
  “We thought we were operating in the free enterprise system and capitalism... No, you’re operating in a padded sale... We cash a check, we don't write it.” ([90:41])

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Key Timestamps

• [06:20] — Mimi delivers news: Trump fires Bondi; drug tariffs.
• [19:19] — Lauren previews breaking Pooh Shiesty news.
• [21:56] — Lauren’s deep dive: alleged kidnapping/robbery details.
• [40:45] — Swae Lee full interview: solo journey, songwriting, politics.
• [69:51] — Lauren returns: more on Pooh Shiesty investigation, evidence, and reactions.
• [86:20] — John Hope Bryant interview: economic literacy, Black capitalism.

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Bonus: New Music & Pass the Aux

• [105:21] — Hosts and guests discuss new tracks from emerging artists (Lorizy, Kanye-produced, Leia), revealing behind-the-scenes A&R thoughts.

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Overall Tone & Show Vibe

The Breakfast Club retains its signature mix of sharp banter, real talk, and unfiltered community engagement. Major moments blend frontline hip hop drama, insightful interviews, and reflections on financial empowerment. The chemistry is energetic and authentic—balancing serious issues with pop culture, humor, and practical advice.

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If You Missed It, Here’s What Matters:

• The Pooh Shiesty-Gucci Mane case is a bombshell in hip-hop—an ongoing story with serious legal and cultural implications.
• Swae Lee shares his artistic evolution, clarifies his political stances, and peels back the curtain on songwriting for megastars.
• John Hope Bryant delivers a powerful message on the urgent need for Black ownership, financial literacy, and a new economic vision.
• Listeners vent frustrations and celebrate wins, exemplifying The Breakfast Club’s connection to what’s happening on the ground.

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Listen From:

• [21:56] for the full Pooh Shiesty case breakdown
• [40:45] for Swae Lee’s wide-ranging and revealing interview
• [86:20] for John Hope Bryant on economic agency and Black capitalism

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Breakfast Club delivers another must-listen episode—blending headline news, hip hop exclusives, and cultural wisdom for the community.

Transcript

[Angela Yee]

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[DJ Envy]

Woke up wake you up. Wake that ass up.

[John Hope Bryant]

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[DJ Envy]

Good morning, USA. Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo,

[Charlamagne Tha God]

yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo.

[DJ Envy]

Jess. Hilarious is out today. Charlamagne is out today, but it's me and Lauren.

[Angela Yee]

Lauren, what's up? Good morning. It's Friday. Hey, good morning, Envy.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, my goodness. I could not wait to come to work this morning.

[Angela Yee]

Oh, Lord.

[DJ Envy]

Why? Because you got all the information. You got to break down everything that's going on in entertainment news today.

[Angela Yee]

Oh, yeah.

[DJ Envy]

I mean, because this. There was so much going on in speculation, people lying, people just making up their own theories. And I was like, well, Lauren's gonna have the facts. I know. Lauren's gonna be calling. She's gonna be reaching out. She's gonna be making sure she knows the proper information because it was a lot going on yesterday.

[Angela Yee]

Read. We all in the paperwork.

[Swae Lee]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

No. So I can't. I can't wait to hear your latest for you to break that all down. I woke up my whole house this

[Angela Yee]

morning because of that.

[DJ Envy]

No, no, no, no. Not because of that. So my. My little kids like to take a shower in Dad's bathroom, right? And I'm fine with that. I got a big shower. They like that. They have their toys in there. And every once in a while, I just gotta move the toys out the way. So I'll step on the toys, right? But the biggest thing I always say, don't take anything out my shower. They took the body wash out the shower. So now I'm in the shower, just letting the water hit me. And I'm comfortable right now. I'm ready to get the body wash. There's no body wash.

[Angela Yee]

So you was walking around, you put a towel like how you was.

[DJ Envy]

Nah, I didn't want to put a towel on because now. Now it'll be a dirty towel. Because I worked out. Like, I sweat when I sleep. So now I gotta put on the robe and I'm pissed off and my feet are wet, and I'm walking through the house to go downstairs to get body washed. I woke up every day, I said, london, don't you ever take anything out my bathroom. Dad, I'm sorry, but Jack said, I don't care. You go downstairs and get like, I was wild.

[Angela Yee]

The sun wasn't even up. It is even up yet.

[DJ Envy]

My wife was like, you're gonna wake the baby. Up.

[Caller]

I said I don't care.

[Angela Yee]

Did you get your body washed?

[DJ Envy]

I did.

[Angela Yee]

What kind of body wash you used to be that angry about?

[DJ Envy]

It doesn't matter. It was Dove or something like that. It was whatever, whatever body wash.

[Angela Yee]

But the fact that I had to

[DJ Envy]

leave the shower wet to go get this damn body wash at 4:00 in the morning. And, and for people that wake up this early, you know, every minute counts. Every minute counts.

[Angela Yee]

The minutes be, oh, they be eating me up.

[DJ Envy]

Like I have to plan. I gotta make sure I got gas in the car. I gotta make sure that my laptop is in the car so I don't for I gotta pre pick out my clothes. Cause everything is minutes in the morning. But I still made it on time. Well, last night you went to go

[Angela Yee]

see Meg Thee Stallion on Broadway. She was there, Yes. I got to see her full show. Okay. Moulin Rouge on Broadway. We gonna be talking about it. It was a great show.

[DJ Envy]

Okay.

[Angela Yee]

It was all the things.

[DJ Envy]

All right, a lot to break down in the latest. Now today on the show, Swae Lee will be joining us. He has a new album, Same Difference. We're gonna be kicking with Swae Lee and also John Hope Bryant, he'll be joining us. He has a new book, Capitalism for All Inclusive Economics in the Future Proofing of America. We'll talk to him as well. Lot going on. A lot going on. So we got front page news with Mimi. You got anything to start the show with Chris Brown? No. Young Ma. Today's her birthday. See if we can pull up Young Ma.

[Angela Yee]

Oh, we gonna drink some Hennessy.

[DJ Envy]

No.

[Angela Yee]

Oh, oh, no. It's our birthday. No.

[DJ Envy]

Ooh, it's too early for that. You got it up? Not yet. I will get back to it. Man. Meet me's up next. It's front page news, so don't go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlamagne the guy. We are the breakfast club. Lon LaRose is here. Let's get in some front page news now. NCAA tournament tonight, women's basketball. South Carolina takes on UConn at 7:00pm UCLA takes on Texas at 9:30pm and on Saturday, the men's founder four is UConn versus Illinois. That happens at six. And Arizona versus Michigan at eight. 49. What's up, Mimi?

[Mimi Brown]

Good morning, Envy. Hi, Lauren. How y' all doing this morning?

[Angela Yee]

Hey, girl. Good morning.

[Mimi Brown]

Good morning. So we started this morning with major news out of Washington. President Trump has fired Attorney General Pam Bondi, removing The nation's top law enforcement official after just over a year on the job. Now, the President announced the move on social media, saying Bondi will be leaving the administration and moving into a job in the private sector. Her deputy, Todd Blanche, will now step into acting Attorney General while the President decides on a permanent replacement at the firing. It follows months of pressure and frustration inside the White House, especially over the Justice Department's handling of the Jeffrey Epstein files, which have become a growing political issue. Now, Bondi, she was scheduled to testify under oath before Congress later this month about the Epstein files, about the investigation and the handling of the documents in that case. And now it's unclear whether that testimony will still continue or not. But now the man stepping in as acting director, Todd Blanche, he's already facing questions about the Epstein files. He was on Fox News yesterday defending Bondi and essentially trying to put the issue of the Epstein files to rest. Let's listen.

[DJ Envy]

I have never heard President Trump say that the Attorney General was that anything that happened to her had anything to do with the Epstein files. And so, look, the Epstein files has been a saga that's lasted for the entirefor the past year. And what happened when the President signed the Transparency act is Department of justice

[John Hope Bryant]

has now released all the files with

[DJ Envy]

respect to the Epstein saga and the Attorney General. Bondi and I appeared in front of Congress voluntarily a couple weeks ago to answer any questions they had. We have made every single congressman, Senator, available to come and see any document redacted, unredacted that they want. And so I think that to the extent that the Epstein files was a part of the past year of this Justice Department, it will should not be a part of anything going forward. So in layman's terms, she got fired because she wouldn't push the Epstein file, and also she wouldn't attack Trump's opponents, political opponents. Is that the reason why they believe she was released?

[Mimi Brown]

It's a couple of reasons, those included, but just, you know, first she claimed there was a little black book, right, that included names, and she had to walk that back. There were lots of different flubs that she had. I mean, she was on Capitol Hill testifying. She was give, you know, they said also because she made President Trump look bad in several occasions with the Epstein files. And so, you know, we don't know. And Todd Blanche, he is, you know, stepping in right now, but he's also the one who helped release those three and a half million Epstein files that we saw in V. And I don't know if you remember we talked about how heavily redacted they were.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Without Trump's.

[Mimi Brown]

Yep. That was, that was his work right there. So I don't think we're getting anyone better. I think we're getting more of the same. And so that's why con. They put out a statement or members of Congress, they did a lot of pushback this morning. A Democratic Congressman, Ted Lieu and Congressman Robert Garcia, both said that that statement that you just heard from Acting Attorney General Todd Blanch is not true and that more documents still need to be released and they are being withheld. And Republican Congressman Thomas Massey, he also weighed in, weighed in, posting online that Blanche now has 30 days to release the rest of the files or face possible consequences under the Epstein Files Transparency Act. So Congress is still pushing for more of those files. They still want all of the files released. So we'll see what happens with that. And meanwhile, sources say that President Trump is reportedly still considering the replacement for that position. And one of the names on top of his list is EPA Administrator Lee Zell Selden. I think that's how you say his name as a possible permanent replacement for Attorney General.

[Angela Yee]

So this is kind of like what he did with Elon Musk, like when they weren't getting along. Remember, he just moved them to somewhere else in the, in the chain of like whatever. Right. And then they try to. Exactly.

[Mimi Brown]

And then we talked about Kristi Noem. I think that was just last week. Right. She was fired and she was moved into a different position. So. And there's talk that there could be more people that are up for replacement in the Trump administration. So we'll continue to watch that throughout the, throughout the week. But really quickly to, to a story that could hit a lot of Americans right at the pharmacy counter. If you rely on certain prescription drugs like insulin, cancer medication or asthma inhalers, a new policy from President Trump could affect what you pay. So the president, he signed an executive order placing up to 100% tariffs on some of those imported brand name drugs, not the generic, but the brand name drugs. So the administration says this is about being, bringing drug manufacturing back to the U.S. but drug companies warn that those tariffs, they will drive up costs whether they are brand name, whether they are generic, and that will mean higher prices for patients. So get ready to see not only pain at the pump, but pain on your prescription drugs. I mean, I don't think Americans can afford, you know, just more money going out and not enough coming in, right?

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, no, not at all. I mean, like I said, I'm the $40 guy. Meaning when I go to the gas station, I'm only putting $40 in. And the amount of gas that I'm getting now, I only put $40.

[Angela Yee]

The autumn big cars, you got $40 don't get you nowhere. Where you going?

[DJ Envy]

Absolutely, positively back to the gas station. But before you know, $40 would get you a nice tank of gas. But now it's to the point where $40 only get you a quarter ticket gas. It's getting ridiculous out there. It's worse and worse and worse each and every day.

[Mimi Brown]

It is, it is. And when you add tariffs and, and just things that people really need, prescription drugs. Right. I just, it's just not looking good out there. So we'll continue to watch that. And coming up at 7. So we talked about this yesterday. We'll get into it. But first JetBlue and now another airline is raising fees. We'll tell you which airline and when those changes are expected to start. That's coming up in the next hour.

[DJ Envy]

All right. And everybody else, get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, phone lines are wide open. Again, 800-585-1051 is the Breakfast Club. Good morning. This is your time to get it off your chest.

[John Hope Bryant]

Whether you're mad or blessed.

[DJ Envy]

I hate the way that you walk, the way that you talk I hate the way that you dress. Everything with me is blessed.

[John Hope Bryant]

Call up next. 800-585-1051.

[DJ Envy]

Not just me, I'm with the culture feeling. Hello, who's this?

[Caller]

Good morning, this is James Call from North Carolina.

[DJ Envy]

James, what's up, brother? Get it off your chest.

[Caller]

Hey, what's up, bro? I've been on watching that, that Deer Killer nanny series with John Leguadomo.

[DJ Envy]

Yep.

[Caller]

I had no idea that Pablo Escobar was playing in the kidnap Michael Jackson. That would have been bugged out if that would have went through.

[DJ Envy]

That was crazy. Now you just hurt me because I ain't watching yet.

[Swae Lee]

Now.

[DJ Envy]

Now you just gave up a lead. He was going. He was going. He was trying to kidnap Michael Jackson.

[Mimi Brown]

Y' all.

[Angela Yee]

Gotta say, spoiler alert.

[Caller]

He was planning on it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Really?

[Caller]

Yeah, yeah. And it was his son that prevented it from happening.

[DJ Envy]

Well, thank you. Spoiler alert. Thank you. I'm gonna watch it this week. And he just messed up my whole thing, so.

[Caller]

My bad, man. I thought y' all would seen it by now.

[DJ Envy]

No, not yet. Goodbye, man. Hey, did you imagine Pablo Escobar kidnapping Michael Jackson? Why? Why was he Kidnapping Michael Jackson was with like Michael was gonna be his pet. Like wait, I gotta watch it this weekend.

[Caller]

Hello?

[DJ Envy]

Who's this?

[Caller]

Hey, this is Jeff call from Fort Lauderdale, Florida. I just want to say good morning to you all.

[DJ Envy]

What's up, Jeff?

[Caller]

Yeah, I'm just trying to get off my chest. I agree with you all when y' all talking about the guy, these gas prices getting out of hand, man. And then you already got a. As a man, especially a black man in America, man, I'm trying to put food on the table to provide and everything keep going up. And I got my 4 year old daughter, you know, while her birthday's coming up. You know, you're just trying to give them the world, trying to take them places like Disney, just everything you can do. But I just want to say to everybody, just keep pushing on and God

[DJ Envy]

bless Jeff, if you taking your daughter to Disney, you balling cause the prices right now at Disney. Oh my gosh, listen here.

[Caller]

I found my little ways to finesse, you know, but I'm trying to make it. I still got discounted prices now.

[Angela Yee]

You know what though, like, I mean that's good that you're able to afford to take them to Disney. But I was thinking yesterday, like when I was younger, the things I remember as a kid is like small stuff. Like I remember my mom like, like our pizza nights at home and stuff like that as well too. So even if you can't afford to do stuff like that, just doing little things like consistently movie nights, pizza night.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, you know, I was, it was funny. I was reading a project I did when I was in eighth grade and you had to talk about your hobbies and all this other stuff. So I was like, yeah, I like to travel. And the places that I would travel, it would be like Virginia Beach, South Carolina, places your parents can get you to easily. Canada, like, because that's all my parents would drive. Like, you know what I mean? I was like, damn. My kids would be like, virginia's not a vacation, Virginia. Like that's what my kids would be like.

[Angela Yee]

I mean kids get accustomed to what they get accustomed to. But I do think the smaller. How much do your kids enjoy, you know, the nights where y' all just stay home and play Monopoly.

[DJ Envy]

They love playing in Monopoly.

[Angela Yee]

Y' all do so much in the house too. So I, you know, just keep people's spirits up. Don't get discouraged if you can't do the big things right now.

[DJ Envy]

Word. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent. Hit us up now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. This is your time to get it

[John Hope Bryant]

off your chest, whether you're mad or blessed. 800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club.

[Angela Yee]

Hello.

[DJ Envy]

Who's this?

[Caller]

This amp from Miami Guard.

[DJ Envy]

What's up, brother? Talk to us. Get it off your chest, man.

[Caller]

I just want to get a donkey of the day, man. The biggest donkey of the day to pooh, shiesty, and big 30. The donkey of the day.

[DJ Envy]

Damn. Well, we ain't doing that right now, but I get it. I get it, and you got to understand.

[Caller]

Okay, okay. Can I get a shout out to one of my big homies for his birthday, man? Give a shout out to Bennett Charles. Charles Bennett. You and that5driver. Happy birthday, brother. Happy birthday. I appreciate you.

[DJ Envy]

All right, now, Charlamagne is out, so if you want to give somebody donkey of the day, you can. 800-585-1051. All you got to do is call, tell us who you want to give a donkey to, tell us the name and why. And like I said, Charlemagne is out, so it's usually the people's donkey on Friday. So call us up right now. 800-585-1051. Hello? Who's this?

[Caller]

This is Larry.

[DJ Envy]

Larry. What's up? Get it off your chest, Larry, man.

[Caller]

So my what I want to get off my chest is this girl I've been dating for the past three or four months. She is overly aggressive when it comes to the way she wants to be intimate, and we haven't even got to that point yet.

[DJ Envy]

What you mean she's aggressive? If you ain't got to the point where she's slapping you in the bedroom.

[Caller]

Nah, I'm talking about she explaining stuff she like to do. Like, she talking about she want to go to sex club. Wow. And talking about threesome.

[DJ Envy]

Wow.

[Caller]

And all that. And we even did nothing. Yeah. You're not even making me curious about you. Like, I want to wonder about you.

[Angela Yee]

How long have y' all been dating?

[Caller]

You know, about three months, and y'

[Angela Yee]

all haven't done anything. Okay, so. Okay, so now. So now you don't want to do nothing. Like, you turned off.

[DJ Envy]

You're scared?

[Caller]

Yeah, it's turning me off. Like, I. I'm like, this is how you get down. So obviously you've done this in the past, and obviously you wouldn't mind doing it again, so. And, you know, it could cause trust issues as well.

[DJ Envy]

Bro, what you gonna do? If she wouldn't have a threesome. If you bring another dude running.

[John Hope Bryant]

You said let her.

[Angela Yee]

No, he said he running.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, running.

[DJ Envy]

I thought he said let her.

[Angela Yee]

Why would Envy throw that on you? He said he gonna. He thought you said let her.

[DJ Envy]

What you gonna do if she say, oh, she wanna peg you tripping.

[Caller]

It's gonna be a fight. Fight on.

[Angela Yee]

You're not even gonna make it to that point. If you turned off now, though, because you know you only got but a couple drunk nights left until she actually tries to. Like she ain't tried nothing. She ain't even.

[DJ Envy]

She gonna put that finger right in your.

[Caller]

No. No, she ain't. And I don't need to drink no more, so I'm gonna be in my right mind, and I'm gonna have police don't speak out.

[Angela Yee]

Maybe you should just not go out with her no more.

[DJ Envy]

Maybe she should end this right now. If that's not what you into, bro. And she's a little freaky. Freaky. I think that you should let it go right now.

[Angela Yee]

Are you celibate?

[Caller]

Yeah, I am. I am. I have been celebrated for a while.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, yeah, she gonna. Oh, she's gonna turn you out.

[Angela Yee]

She know that y' all in two different churches.

[DJ Envy]

She gonna put a in you. She go, whoa, she gonna turn you out, bro.

[Caller]

I know it, man, because I changed my life around a few years ago, and I've been trying to do things the right way, and just because I'm looking for marriage and my next relationship and all that. So it's just. It is a little too much for me. I just think it's. The devil tested me, you know?

[DJ Envy]

Gotta say no, don't do no handcuffs. So don't let her handcuff you. Don't let her hog tie you. None of that.

[Caller]

Yeah, because she do. She go on the handcuffs, it ain't gonna be by me.

[DJ Envy]

Good luck, brother.

[Caller]

Thank you.

[DJ Envy]

It might be a great weekend if you try, though. It might be a great. You might enjoy it.

[Angela Yee]

Now you want him to walk back on his covenant with God?

[DJ Envy]

Oh, you're right. I'm sorry, sir.

[Angela Yee]

It's Easter weekend. Of all the weekends.

[DJ Envy]

Right? I'm sorry. You're right. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. Now, we got the latest coming up. We got a lot to discuss.

[Angela Yee]

Yes, we are going to be getting into some things. Apu Shiesty and Big 30 out of Memphis, but arrested in Texas by federal agents. So we're gonna be talking about. We're gonna Be breaking it down.

[DJ Envy]

All right, we'll get into all that when we come back. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah. I'm not dumbing myself down. I'm being myself. I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything and everybody. Little brown girls look at you and

[Swae Lee]

go, I want to be like you.

[Mimi Brown]

Take me through that.

[Angela Yee]

Take me through there.

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[DJ Envy]

Talk to me.

[Angela Yee]

Alrighty, guys, so let's get into the thing. So last night I went to Broadway to get to see Meg the Stallion. So we reported earlier this week, we broke the news that Meg thee stallion was abruptly rushed to the hospital while performing on Broadway during Moulin Rouge.

[DJ Envy]

Right.

[Angela Yee]

This was her big return to the theater, and it went amazing. So when she first out, she was very well received. Let's take a listen to Meg first hitting the stage.

[DJ Envy]

So wait a minute. You're not supposed to have cameras in Broadway. You're not supposed to take your phone out. You're not supposed to. All right, go ahead, continue.

[John Hope Bryant]

Sorry.

[Angela Yee]

So then Meg gets through the show flawlessly again. She was good the first night. I got to see her for a little bit of time, but watching her the full show is just a great fit for her. She played the role of Zettler or Ziddler. Now, at the end, there's like a. A melody that Ziller does in Moulin Rouge. And Meg's melody is very hot.

[Movie Trailer Announcer]

Girl.

[Angela Yee]

Let's take a listen to the end of the show.

[DJ Envy]

Is it melody or medley?

[Angela Yee]

Medley. Melody. Same thing.

[DJ Envy]

No, it ain't. But go ahead.

[Caller]

It is.

[Angela Yee]

It's not.

[DJ Envy]

Now, medley's a bunch of different songs. Melodies are trying to get on well.

[Angela Yee]

No. Well, so we. It was a bunch of different songs. She did a couple, but we only just, you know, we just clipped that little bit. But, like, I posted a full video to my Instagram, Lauren the Rosa, and it's also on the Breakfast Club's Instagram of that return. People took out their cameras at that point. She did a couple songs, and then they went into, like, you know, their bows and everything that they did.

[DJ Envy]

So she killed the show.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah, she did amazing. Standing ovation at the end. Right. I can't say whether she got a standing ovation, you know, compared to the other nights, because I didn't get to see her fully through. But standing ovation at the end, she was very well. So welcome back to Broadway, Megan.

[DJ Envy]

All right, now let's jump into the book the bs.

[Angela Yee]

Oh, Lord. All right, so let's go let's go on over to Memphis. So rapper Pooh Shiesty and his dad were taken into federal custody along with Memphis rapper Big 30 and several other people in connection to a federal criminal case that is allegedly involving the attempted kidnapping and robbery of Gucci man and several others. So a few days ago there was news that broke that a family home that was linked to Pooh Shiesty and his father was raided by. Were was raided by the feds. Right. And at that time we didn't know why. I reached out to Memphis FBI and police and couldn't get an answer on what was happening. So then this news came out. At that raid, Pooh Shiesty was arrested and then later his father was arrested. Now the United States Attorney for the Northern District of Texas, his name is Ryan Rabil. He held a press conference yesterday just detailing the list of suspects. Let's take a listen.

[John Hope Bryant]

I'm Ryan Rabil, I'm the U.S. attorney for the Northern District of Texas. Thank you for coming. This week, nine individuals including well known musical artists kidnapped and robbed at gunpoint numerous victim at a music studio in Dallas, Texas.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Eight of the nine were arrested yesterday

[John Hope Bryant]

in Dallas, Memphis and Nashville. These individuals who are charged and arrested include Lontrell Williams Jr. Also known as

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Pooh Shiesty, Lontrell Williams Sr. Rodney Wright

[John Hope Bryant]

Jr. Also known as Big 30, Kaderious Waters, Damarion Gibson, DeMarcus Glover, Corday Johnson, Darian McDaniel and Terrence Rogers. Has not been arrested yet, but will be soon.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah, so then I'm gonna let the second audio play because they we also get more details on what actually happened when I talk about that attempted robbery and kidnapping. Let's take a listen to the second audio.

[John Hope Bryant]

The complaint alleges that on January 10th of this year, three music industry professionals

[Charlamagne Tha God]

traveled to Dallas for a scheduled business meeting. Lontrell Williams Jr.

[John Hope Bryant]

Arranged this meeting purportedly to discuss the terms of his recording contract with one of the victims. As alleged. Once these three men were inside the recording studio, Williams Jr. And eight co conspirators, several of whom traveled from Memphis, Tennessee executed a coordinated armed takeover. As alleged, Williams Jr. Produced an AK style pistol and forced one of the victims to sign a release from the recording contract. At gunpoint, the remaining conspirators displayed firearms

[Charlamagne Tha God]

and robbed the other victims of Rolex

[John Hope Bryant]

watches, jewelry, cash and other high value items.

[Angela Yee]

So okay, so you guys just heard the details from the, the, the police or the officials over in Texas. I want to break down a little bit of what was actually in the complaint. Because there's a bit more. So when he talks about, you know, them being at this music studio. So what is alleged in the documents is that rd, who would be allegedly would be Gucci man, right? Roderick, a person listed as MM and then a person listed as BP. They flew in with two security people at 1 1pm that same day. This was January 10th. So they get to the recording studio. The recording studio is closed, but they're then let in while they're waiting for everything to be, like, opened and started. Because they flew in for this, like, business meeting, right? They turn the game on. Some people go to the liquor store, they come back, they start drinking. This business meeting was supposed to be between Pooh Shiesty and rd, who people are pointing to may be a Gucci man, right? So in that meeting, it starts, right? They go into a separate little side recording studio. You have allegedly Pooh Shiesty, you allegedly have big 30 and push Icy's father with RD, who people are saying is Gucci man in this room? They're having a conversation about a contract issue. The issue is that Pooh Shiesty allegedly wanted to be released from this contract. According to the documents by police, Pushe acts rd, Gucci man allegedly to be let out of the contract. RD or Gucci man replies no. And then Pooh Shisty allegedly asked one of the men who is big 30 to go and grab a bag. Now, this bag was seen on camera by the police. It's a black bag being brought in by just one of the, like, extra like Entourage people that were with Push I stand team. So they bring that bag in and police alleged then that they pull out an AK style weapon, a black AK style weapon, and it's pointed at Gucci man by Push Iisti allegedly. And Gucci man is then forced to sign this contract. And they also alleged that while this is happening that there is a big 30 in the room who allegedly is holding a phone and recording Gucci Mane on video. And they have Gucci Mane allegedly say on video that Pooh Shy see would be released from this contract as well. And then Push, I see, you know, according to these docs, looks over to his dad, allegedly, and says, is this good? Like, is the paperwork good? The dad is alleged to have said, no, it needs to be dated. They then make Gucci Mane date the paperwork and then they mover to another room. While all this is happening in the studio, the other people that were with Gucci man are. Then there's guns pulled out on them, allegedly. They begin to be robbed of different things, various watches. There was like a Louis Vuitton bag that's mentioned in a document that had a bunch of other jewelry in it. I'm assuming they were probably traveling from somewhere else.

[Caller]

Right.

[Angela Yee]

And Gucci Mane is taken into another room and they alleged that like his wedding rings were taken. And a watch was also taken from Gucci man as well, too. Allegedly. And it gets to a point where his security guards, because they peeped the conversation, getting a little hostile. So one person, Texas, one of the head security guards. And. And just kind of lets them know. And the docs, it alleges that the security guards who would have been Gucci's, if you know, Gucci is rd, tried to get into the room. But. And, and they also had guns as well too. But once they come in, they realize that they're outnumbered. So then, you know, at that point they're just there. They are then instructed to leave out of a certain point or a certain exit of the studio, which is also caught on camera as well too. But there's a moment in all of this where, you know, rd, mmbp, which are all the people that would have been there with Gucci if RD is Gucci. Right. Someone says in this. Is in this complaint that they thought that they were going to be executed because the way that they were all sat down in that second room.

[DJ Envy]

But I'm also thinking in that whole situation, if Gucci said, no, I'm not releasing you, would they have killed Gucci mang in that studio that night? Would they have killed all those individuals because he didn't release them on paper? I mean, I know we gotta go. So you'll talk about it next hour.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah, that's one more to get into.

[DJ Envy]

But I'm so confused with that. And I'm so confused with the fact that Pooh Shiesty just came home a couple of months ago.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah. Yep. And then, you know what's crazy? And we'll get into it in the next latest. There was an alleged overheard phone call between Pooh Shiesty and his probation officer before all of this started. And we'll also talk about, you know,

[DJ Envy]

why put yourself in that predicament to go back like to spend the, you know. Cause they're talking about life for all these individuals.

[Angela Yee]

We'll get into it. There's also a lot of evidence as well that, you know, the feds alleged that they have. And I have a statement from Pooh Shiesi's attorney as well.

[DJ Envy]

And do we know who told well, we'll talk about that.

[Angela Yee]

We'll get into all these things.

[DJ Envy]

We'll talk about that next hour as well. All right. And also, Charlamagne is not here, so if you want to give somebody donkey of the day, you can. 800-585-1051. Front page news is next.

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[Angela Yee]

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[John Hope Bryant]

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[Mimi Brown]

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[DJ Envy]

Morning everybody. Is DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlamagne the guy we are the Breakfast Club. Lauren Larosis here as well. And let's get back to some front page news now. The NCAA women's basketball tournament goes out down tonight at 7:00pm South Carolina takes on UConn and Texas takes on UCLA. Now the men's final four happens tomorrow. Illinois versus UConn at six and Arizona versus Michigan at eight. 49. What's up, Mimi?

[Mimi Brown]

Good morning, M.B.

[Angela Yee]

hey, Lauren.

[Mimi Brown]

How y' all doing this morning?

[Angela Yee]

Hey girl. Good morning.

[Mimi Brown]

Good. So we start this hour with Tiger woods, who is now facing DUI charges. Dui, right. That's what I said. DUI charges after a serious car crash in Florida. So newly released police video, they are adding a surprised detail to this story. Let's listen.

[Caller]

Why aren't you looking up and responding?

[DJ Envy]

Just keep you down here with us, please. Yeah, I was talking to the president.

[Mimi Brown]

So if you heard it, he was just name dropping a little bit right after he was being arrested. So video shows that woods, he was telling officers that he had just been on the phone with President Trump minutes after the crash. So it's still unclear who called who, but when President Trump was asked about the accident involving woods, this is what he had to say.

[Swae Lee]

I feel so badly he's got some difficulty.

[DJ Envy]

There was an accident, and that's all I know. Very close friend of mine.

[Caller]

He's an amazing person. Amazing man. But some difficulty.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, you got to go all the way with it. Right? If you call the president, I'm gonna put the president on the phone with the officer. I'm going all the way. Like, not just like, hey, hey, hey, you want to talk to Trump? Hey, this is Trump. Like, I'm going all the way with it.

[Angela Yee]

Did you see the rest of that body cam?

[DJ Envy]

Well, him all over the place.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah, that wasn't going to help. There was obviously something really happening. Call who you want to call, baby, it's going down. Get there.

[Mimi Brown]

It was exactly, Lauren. There was a lot happening with that. So police say woods, he hit an SUV trailer in a narrow road. It flipped on its side. Officers say he in peer, he appeared impaired. He refused a lawful test, and they say hydrocodone was found on him. I saying that. Right.

[Angela Yee]

He called it. What did he call it, Lauren?

[Mimi Brown]

Do you remember?

[Angela Yee]

I just know it was narco. Okay. Yeah. I just know it was an opioid.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah, yeah. So that was the same drug that was tied to his previous arrest. So woods, he pled not guilty. He's saying that he's now going to seek treatment for personal issues and he's stepping away from consideration for the 2027 Ryder cup team. Now, his attorney is also asking for permission for him to leave the country for treatment, citing privacy concerns. And he will not be playing in next week's Masters and is expected to be away from golf for an undetermined amount of time.

[Swae Lee]

Time.

[Mimi Brown]

But this is the fourth traffic related incident involving woods and the police, and the most serious was back in 2021 here in California, where his vehicle flipped multiple times, leading to major injuries and reconstructive surgery. But, yes, that video was all over the place.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah. And I think he was. He was granted the permission, y'.

[DJ Envy]

All.

[Angela Yee]

He. This is a bad thing to say, but the way that they maneuvered this whole DUI situation, like, he pled not guilty, he didn't take the urine test. They found the pills on him, but how they gonna prove that that's what he was on? Because he didn't take the urine test. Now he's already headed to rehab. So the brand cleaned up is happening. Like this was like. You know what I mean? Like, he just maneuvered this so easily.

[Mimi Brown]

Well, maybe he made the call to Trump and, you know, some things happened behind the scenes that we don't know about. Because you are absolutely right. All the things. All those things did happen, and it moved very, very quickly. And so, I don't know, again, the full fourth traffic related incident involving Tiger in the last, what, five years? 20, 21.

[Angela Yee]

Well, yeah, he know what to do, huh?

[Mimi Brown]

Exactly. And this morning, there is a major lawsuit involving the Congressional Black Caucus. And this could have a big impact on scholarships for black students around the country. So the lawsuit is targeting a scholarship program connected to the CBC that was created to help black students go to college, build future leaders. The program has been around since the 1980s and has helped hundreds of students pay for school. But now a legal group, they have filed a federal lawsuit saying the scholarship is illegal because it specifically is designed for black students, arguing that under the civil rights law, scholarships cannot be limited to race, even if the goal is to help a specific community. So this is the same legal strategy that has been used to end affirmative action and college admissions. And legal experts say if this lawsuit is successful, it could impact other scholarships and programs designed to help underrepresented communities.

[Angela Yee]

Wow, that is sad. That's literally the only reason I got through college, for the most part, was a lot of those type of scholarships

[DJ Envy]

and those grants, Right?

[Angela Yee]

Yeah, and those grants and.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah, and the people making those rules, Lauren, they know that.

[Swae Lee]

Right.

[Mimi Brown]

And so that's why they're targeting specific ones and using the Civil Rights act act, you know, against underserved communities who the scholarships were intended to help because they weren't getting the scholarships that other students were getting. So here we are with that. And lastly, we talked about this a little bit yesterday, mv and I told you it was coming, that more airlines were going to do this. So JetBlue, they raised their fees, and now another major airline is making a similar move. United says starting today, it is raising its checked bag fees by $10 blaming higher fuel costs. So if you pay at the airport, it's going to be $10 more. So it's going up from 40 to $50. The second bag is now going to be $60. That's up from $50. And a third bag is going to cost you $200.

[DJ Envy]

That's crazy.

[Mimi Brown]

It is very, very, very crazy. If you pay ahead, you know, online, it's going to be a little cheaper, but those prices are still going up, too. So with the first bag online, it's going dollars now to $45. So the airline says this is happening because their costs are going up, especially fuel, and instead of raising ticket prices, they're trying to raise the fees instead. So if you're flying soon, the ticket might look like the same price, but what you pay at the airport could be a very, very different story.

[DJ Envy]

It's just going to hurt regular people that are just trying to go on vacation, right? Because if you're going on vacation, let's say you're a family of four, right? You're going to carry more than one bag. You're going to carry a couple of bags because you have kids, you have have formula. If you have babies, you have Pampers, you have kids. Clothes, you have your clothes, you have outfits. So what's going to wind up happening is something I used to see all the time when I used to go to the islands. I would see people layer their clothes. Like they would wear four or five outfits on so they can. They'd be hot, but they get through with their five outfits on. But at least they would have it and they wouldn't be charged. But that's ridiculous because all that. Well, we're not charging the ticket price. Well, you're still charging people that's just trying to travel and bringing their family with them. That's a lot.

[Mimi Brown]

And that's a really good point because what's going to be cheaper if you have a family of four and each bag is $50, that's a ticket, right?

[Angela Yee]

Right.

[Mimi Brown]

Depending on where you're going. So, you know, just depending on how you look at it. So everything is getting more expensive. I think that's the moral of the story today, right? Just everything. So, yes, y', all, that is your front page news. I'm Mimi Brown. Follow me @mimi Brown TV. And for more stories, follow the Black Information Network.

[DJ Envy]

All right, thank you, Mimi.

[Mimi Brown]

Thank you.

[DJ Envy]

All right, now, when we come back, Suede Lee will be joining us. He has a new album from st. He has a new album, Same difference out Today, you know Swae Lee from Ray Sherman, and we're gonna talk to him next. All right. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Lorna Rose is here with us as well. We got a special guest in the building.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, indeed, ladies and gentlemen.

[Swae Lee]

So special.

[Caller]

So special.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Welcome. What's up, my guy?

[Swae Lee]

What's up, game? What's up? Morning. How you doing? I'm chilling. I early. It's early.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Debut solo album, man. Same difference. Difference.

[Caller]

Why?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why it took so long?

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, that sounds crazy,

[Swae Lee]

man. It's crazy. I think I got a unique career. Like, nobody ever had a career like that. Like, billion string songs and then like, no album, you know what I'm saying? But it's just like, you know, say I'm in a group. So over the years, I just like, every time I was about to drop my solo album, I had it prepared, but it's like I'm with my brother, you know what I'm saying? So I'm. I'm spinning the block. I'm spinning back. I'm just going to race Shermer making sure. I dropped these Race Sherman projects, but I always had them prepared. But now it's just, like, been eight years, and I've been telling everybody, like, I'm coming soon, you know what I'm saying? Solo album on the way. Boom, boom. Drop unforgettable solo album on the way. Boom, Sunflower, boom. I don't know. It's just crazy timing.

[John Hope Bryant]

Was it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Was you getting too much money when Mike Will lost all that music? Did that affect you? Like, well, was it

[Swae Lee]

Definitely Been traveling the world since Stream Life 1, you know what I'm saying? So no flex on no type. We've been traveling the world, still performing that, you know what I'm saying? So you know what I'm saying? We in Australia got down Romania, you know what I'm saying? Like, all these crazy places. Just those songs had such an impact. It's like it kept moving. Yeah.

[Angela Yee]

So you already had most of this music already because you said you've been had it.

[Swae Lee]

But, like. Oh, yeah, these songs, like. Like, I got songs on there. Like I did a couple months ago. I got songs on there I did a couple years ago, you know what I'm saying? I got like. It's like a mix of all crazy vibes. Yeah. Did you feel the need? Like, did you feel pressure and like. Like needing to change something up to match other sounds? Or did you n. I ain't really matching on like what's going on right now. I just kept it really like my sound and just like the songs like I put up like pop songs, like trap songs, like party music, you know what I'm saying? Afro songs. So it's just like a real like a gumbo of all those songs.

[DJ Envy]

I was gonna ask what is your sound? Cuz, you know, listening to the album, you go Afrobeats, you go trap, you go R and B sound, you singing on some of it. So what is Swae Lee sound?

[Swae Lee]

I mean that's, that's part of the same difference. Like all these, my sounds, you know, I can do all these like, all these sounds if I want to. Like I turn around and do a country song tomorrow, you know what I'm saying? But, but yeah, like all my fans, they come from different demographics, like Sunflower, boom. Those. That's a whole audience. Black Beatles, you know, no type. All the trap stuff, that's. That's a whole separate audience. Unforgettable, like Afro songs. That's a whole separate audience. So I'm just connecting all the dots, you know.

[DJ Envy]

I was confused with unforgettable.

[Swae Lee]

Right.

[DJ Envy]

I heard you do an interview and you said it was your record that French did, that you didn't necessarily know French put out and did did, but it was your record. So what was the. What happened with that record?

[Swae Lee]

Basically I was working on Shrimp Life 2. So I had like black Beatles, all that stuff just about to drop it. And I had made them songs around the same time. And yeah, French heard that song because I was working with Molly Ma and like Jeremiah at the time, all the time we was always locked in. So song ended up getting his hands boom, boom. He did a verse. Yeah, he wanted to put it out. But at this time I'm focused on black Beatles boom. But I noticed a smash song, you know, saying I love this song too. It's like I wanted to get a good look too. I wanted to put on my album for sure. So I made it initially for my album, you know, say I brought the slim Jimmy like bro. And one of the ones like we need to throw this on the album. We just wrapping up our album. We finna turn it in. Black Beatles was the last song we made for that album, you know, so I made that last minute buzzer beater boom. So French, French heard the record. It wasn't like the traditional way like you put a song out like, like

[Charlamagne Tha God]

the Internet say he stole it in a way.

[Angela Yee]

Was upset about that too.

[Swae Lee]

It's not really, like, stealing it, but, like, he definitely contacted me. It's like. It's like. It's kind of like, finesse. Like, he finessed it. Like, you know what I'm saying? But I wouldn't, like, offended. Like, I'm like, long as they get his proper look, you know what I'm saying? Like, shoot a video for it. Boom.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How did somebody finesse out the record, though? Break that down? Like, what?

[Swae Lee]

No, it's not even finessing me. It's just, like, getting a good look for themselves.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, okay.

[Swae Lee]

Like, of course. It's like taking an opportunity and seizing it. Like, you know, say, like. Like, if I heard a Michael Jackson record, it's like, it's available. Like, I'm gonna do A versus boom. And it's a chance I can get it cleared, you know, Saying you're gonna do what you can to get it clear. It's like, boom. I'm. I'm feeling good about. I ain't really tripping. I got, like, 20 of these on my computer. You know what I'm saying? So.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But you didn't write it for French, though.

[Swae Lee]

No, I didn't write it for French. For show, though. I just wrote it for myself. I sent it to Wiz Kid initially in the beginning, you know, so he did a verse for me. Me, but it's like, that's just how everything played out.

[DJ Envy]

Was your name on it at first, or was it just. Just French Montana at first, Right?

[Swae Lee]

I don't know if he did it like that. Like, but definitely, you know what I'm saying? Like, my name should be on, like, the. My face should be on, like, the artwork, you know what I'm saying? Like, I should have been in the video probably more, you know what I'm saying? Like, for sure. I was a young ass. I was like, 19, 22 or something. I don't even know.

[DJ Envy]

You told friends, like, you owe me for this one.

[Swae Lee]

Oh, yeah. I definitely, you know, say co for would be nice. You know what I'm saying?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It went diamond, though, right?

[Swae Lee]

I think it's like, two times diamond or something, maybe.

[DJ Envy]

Jesus.

[Swae Lee]

No, sunflower. Two times diamond. That giant maybe, like, it's definitely diamond. 13 times, 14 times.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You made money off the record, though, right?

[Swae Lee]

I'm making money right now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay. Okay. Just make it show.

[Swae Lee]

Okay. So what did you discover about yourself creatively when you didn't have to compromise

[Angela Yee]

doing music with somebody else, right, like,

[Swae Lee]

because you was in a group at first, but. Oh, yeah, this is the solo album. So what did you Find out creatively

[Angela Yee]

about yourself that you probably didn't have

[Swae Lee]

when you were in the group. Yeah.

[Angela Yee]

Or that you probably didn't notice when

[Swae Lee]

you were in the group recording. What's the name? I don't know. It's just jumping out there more. It's like, even with the group, I'm still. I'm still in Ray Trimmer, you know what I'm saying? Like, I ain't leaving Ray Trimmer or nothing. Like, Ray Shimmer, like, is so big. Like, we. Like, we started challenges. Like, music challenges. People do challenges to songs. Like, it's like a Jordan brand, you know what I'm saying? Like, Ray Trimmer. That's like a Jordan 13, Slim Jimmy, like a Jordan 9. You know, say I'm like a Jordan 14 or whatever. We all different Jordan numbers. So it's like, they always gonna drop a new season. You know I'm saying we're just gonna keep dropping new seasons. Like, you just can't let that die. So, like, shout out Slim Jimmy, you know what I'm saying?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

When you tight. When you title the album Same difference, are you saying you've changed or that at your core you're still the same? Like, what is the. What does that title mean, really?

[Swae Lee]

Both. Like, all of that. Like, you know, I'm saying who I was, and goddamn 2023, that's still a version inside of me, you know, saying it's like, whether I had growth or whatever, it's like, it's the same difference. You know what I'm saying? But that's just, like, I'm also a Gemini, too. So it's like they say we see things from, like, two different perspectives. They don't say that. They say we two faced two different people. Yeah, it's whoever started that about us, like, that's up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Do you feel like people boxed you in as, like, the hook guy guy? So this album.

[Swae Lee]

Oh, yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Break out of that perception of just being the hook guy.

[Swae Lee]

No, I think that's. I think that's a great compliment. Like, they call me the hook guy, Captain Hook, you know what I'm saying? So I'm running with that. I'm. I'm continuing the legacy, you know, to

[DJ Envy]

do more writing in more the hooks. Or do you prefer being an artist? I mean, you've. You can talk Travis Scott, you can talk Beyonce, you can talk French. You can talk so many different people.

[Swae Lee]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

For that part of it. Or do you prefer the. The artist being on stage, people in your business part of it?

[Swae Lee]

I mean, I definitely, like yeah, dropping. Dropping the smash songs, you know, I'm saying? Putting the face on it, being the face of it, but I don't mind writing it all, you know what I'm saying? Like, for sure. If artists want to get in, I pull up, play about 30 songs, whatever they with, take it, resync it, and your voice, boom, it's yours. You know, I'm saying that's always cool. Just getting. Getting money, like, just. You know what I'm saying? Mysterious money, you know, saying it ain't even true. Just not even your face. Just people not even knowing you wrote it, and you just, like, receiving money. It's fine.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What's something that you wrote that nobody know that we don't know you wrote?

[Caller]

Really?

[Swae Lee]

Just the formation, like, you know what I'm saying? Formation.

[Angela Yee]

Formation.

[Swae Lee]

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I'm selling. You got them ladies in formation

[Angela Yee]

for real.

[Swae Lee]

Did some stuff on there. Did some work on there. For real. Oh, okay, ladies, now let's get information.

[Angela Yee]

Okay, what everybody walking around saying, line up, man.

[Swae Lee]

Line up.

[Angela Yee]

So when you in with Beyonce,

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Sway Lee of Hip Hop du a Race Rumor Co wrote Beyonce 2016, contributing to Central Hook. Okay, ladies, now let's get the formation.

[Angela Yee]

That's why he said that part.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, man, you just got to check. That's all.

[Angela Yee]

That's. What's.

[DJ Envy]

How did that come about? How did y. How did y' all hook up to

[Swae Lee]

do that record, man? That's just. Mike Will. Mike Will don't never sleep, man. He be working all the time. So, yeah, he, like, that was the opportunity he just brought to me early, randomly, you know what I'm saying? So did you believe it when he first hit you? Like, yo, trying be trying to have

[Angela Yee]

you write something on this album.

[Swae Lee]

I just like, damn. First it was like, damn it. It seemed like it's, like, difficult, you know what I'm saying? So. But boom, Just heard that. Just, like, first I was like, damn, what I got for Beyonce? Like, I'm thinking her song to the left, to the Left. Like, damn, what I got? Like this, like, boom. So for her to just hear that record and just, boom, be with it,

[Charlamagne Tha God]

you had to get into, like, a sassy mindset, like, what you was doing, like, in the studio, like, what?

[Caller]

Nah, bro.

[Swae Lee]

One. One time, early on, I had an experience like that. Like, they had me come to the studio and, like, write for a female artist, and I'm just, like, totally lost. I'm like, my ass fat, like, you know what I'm saying? I'm Like, I'm like, how do I

[Charlamagne Tha God]

write for a female artist?

[Swae Lee]

Say so red. Like, you know what I'm saying? I'm in that completely. Like.

[DJ Envy]

Like.

[Swae Lee]

Like algebra 3. God damn. Like, how do I do this? Like, you know what I'm saying? And then, like, the artist ain't up telling me, hey, you need to get your together. Like, you like, doesn't they really know who I was? They were like, man, you need to get. Cause I ain't come with nothing. I'm like, you need to get your together. Then like, a week later, drop no flex on it. Skyrocketing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm just like, you were just in the studio yelling out my ass fat.

[Swae Lee]

I'm just, like, puzzled, like, completely lost. Like, damn, what do girls like? Like.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But you gotta get into that zone, though, right?

[Swae Lee]

I don't even say it's really legendary, but it's like. It's kind of embarrassing. Even say it's funny, though, but it's embarrassing. If y' all knew the name, y' all laugh like a. Who was it? Can't even do that to myself, man. I going be.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know who did that? I was telling him. You ever heard Cardi be careful? You know Parton?

[Swae Lee]

Yeah. He be writing on them girl records, but he had.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I remember him on Instagram rapping the record one time, and that is, like,

[Swae Lee]

completely from the woman's. It seemed crazy for.

[DJ Envy]

But even if you go back, Biggie did that for. For Kim all the time. He would have to write Kim's verse. Could you imagine Kim's verse?

[Swae Lee]

Yeah, he'd be doing that. That's dope.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You gotta get into that zone, though, right?

[Swae Lee]

Yeah. Now I could do it for sure. But, like, coming in the game, just, like, surprise. Like, boom. You've been writing, like, dude songs your whole life. And he's like, you'll write a song for a female artist. You're like. You know what I'm saying? It can be hard.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But that's a different one, though, because Beyonce, because that became an anthem. It still is. Like, yeah, women getting in. That's a different type of mindset to even think like that. Like, what made you even come up with that concept?

[Swae Lee]

I just be trying to, like, say, like, different stuff that nobody said. It's fun and just make sense, so. And then it was a lot of

[Angela Yee]

pressure because it's Beyonce and she's not all raunchy and, you know, my ass fat.

[Swae Lee]

Yeah, yeah, right, right.

[Angela Yee]

Did they. Well, first it was a freestyle session, so you came with nothing and you just figured it out right then and there.

[Swae Lee]

Right, right. And I was just, just, I was just rapping some hard on the beat, you know what I'm saying? I wasn't really trying to think of it. What does this girl need? Like just like let me make a banger and then let her reset. So that became my new thing. And then whatever she, whatever she tweak and edit to make it more personal for her. She can do that, you know what I'm saying? Or the artist can do that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, when you a Gemini, the two faced reputation of the Gemini stems from the symbol because it's the twins. It represents a dual nature. So.

[Swae Lee]

Yeah, exactly.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Duality, personality.

[Swae Lee]

Yeah, right, right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And intense versatility which is clearly you.

[Swae Lee]

Exactly. Versatility, yes. And you can adapt like to any situation. It's just like. Exactly. Same difference. Boom.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The level of global success you've achieved with like record like Unforgettable and Stun Flower, did that change how you view like your career ceiling? Even writing records like Beyonce Formation, seeing how big those records get.

[Swae Lee]

Yeah, it just, it's possible, you know what I'm saying? Like, like I'm like a, like a hood pop star, you know what I'm saying? Like so definitely making those records, kicking those doors in, it just made a new lane for myself, you know what I'm saying? So definitely I'm gonna keep like dropping those type songs, like stadium songs, songs that sound like they, they belong in movies, you know, saying I'm gonna keep, you know what I'm saying? Keep doing that for sure.

[DJ Envy]

Do you chase those, those trends like the black Beatles trends and do you try to chase that? Like we need to create something around it or is it just something that happens naturally?

[Swae Lee]

Yeah, it's really something that happened naturally. Like you can like I ain't even start that challenge. Like the fans, that's, that's what they did when they listened to the song. It's just like that's what it inspired them to do. So it's like definitely like you know, so you fingers crossed every time you drop like they, they gonna do some craziest record like you hope they gonna do some crazy challenge to it for sure. Cuz that gonna push it to number one, you know what I'm saying? But if they don't, it's, it's cool too. Like long as they still enjoy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I just saw you somewhere doing the challenge recently.

[John Hope Bryant]

It was a school.

[Swae Lee]

Oh yeah? Yeah, I did a little run. I was, I was going to the HBCUs so I went to Morehouse and I went to North Carolina Central and I went to NYU and did a seminar like yesterday. But yeah, Morehouse and Spelman, they was going up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Does it shock you that they still vibe to those records like that?

[Swae Lee]

It's crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Swae Lee]

To me it's crazy because the challenge, like, 10 years old. So now it's just like something fun to do to the song. It's like. Like it's dope. The way it aged. You know what I'm saying? I love the way it aged.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Did you lose music when Mike Will lost all that music when he got his hard drive stolen?

[Swae Lee]

I had lost the hard drive too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Swae Lee]

And I was like. But I recovered it. I was about to actually drop an album too. Like an ep. Then, like, stolen hard drive. Ep. It was crazy. I don't know if y' all see on the ground, this dude was going live with my hard drive. Boom.

[DJ Envy]

How'd he get it?

[Swae Lee]

Like, from the airport or some like, boom. Like going through the airport. Some crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm like, you took it out your bag or something.

[Swae Lee]

I don't even remember how it happened. It was like drives away. It's like we going to the airport.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Forgot all about it on that gas. Yeah.

[Swae Lee]

98 chance.

[Angela Yee]

How does that make you feel when that happens?

[Swae Lee]

Like, do you feel like. Like I'm about to throw in a towel. I've been working so hard on all

[Angela Yee]

this live listening to my.

[Swae Lee]

It'll piss you off for sure. Yeah. But it's like, hopefully you got it backed up on another hard drive. My engineer, I got one of the best engineers in the world.

[John Hope Bryant]

World.

[Swae Lee]

He usually back it up on like, icloud and the hard drive. So a lot of it is recoverable. You know what I'm saying? But that's never a good feeling. I lost a couple laptops. Somebody in Switzerland. Like, I found your laptop. Boom. I see all your sessions right here. I know this is yours. Boom. Like, I want to get it back to you. Boom.

[DJ Envy]

But you got to pay this much.

[Swae Lee]

That too. Yeah. Hell yeah. I pay for that too.

[Movie Trailer Announcer]

Up.

[Swae Lee]

That's a billion dollars on that. What you need? I mean, I ain't really had to. I ain't even never paid to do. But I mean, I gotta find. Dude, I gotta track them down.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The one that got the hard drive now.

[Swae Lee]

No, we got that. We got that back. This computer? Yeah. Over in Switzerland.

[DJ Envy]

Yes.

[Swae Lee]

Somebody hit me on WhatsApp at the laptop DJing right now. That's like my early day laptop. It was just new. Know what I'm saying open it right up. Open it up. Yeah. Get in it. Boom. Password. Probably a. You know what I'm saying?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What did God tell you this morning before you rolled up?

[Swae Lee]

He told me. He said, sway, you got to get up. I know you're a lunch. Lunch club type of. It's the Breakfast Club. You got to get up, get you. Get you some caffeine and get up. Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Is this the part of the game that you don't like?

[Swae Lee]

What?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Having to go out here and sell the music?

[Swae Lee]

I ain't gonna lie, bro. When I first. Like, when I first came, breakfast at that time, I. I ain't really understand it, and I ain't really, Like, I had to get used to it. Like, waking up early. Like, it's. That's. That's so difficult to me, like, waking up early, like, especially after a long night. So it's like, now I'm used to it. Boom. Like, you got to get up and chop it up. You gotta pop your. It could be cold as, like, New York be cold. You know what I'm saying? You wake up, it's cold. It's like, damn, I gotta do this.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Then you get. You wake up, and you got to get asked questions.

[Swae Lee]

You got to be social and everything.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You don't know what somebody gonna come at you with.

[Swae Lee]

Don't prepare for anything.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Boom. They said you hated Kamala Harris. Is that true?

[Swae Lee]

I was ready for that. I wanted you to ask me that, too. Like, that's a great question to ask, and I wanted to clear that up, too, for sure.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Swae Lee]

I don't hate Kamala Harris. I don't love no politician, though, like, because think about it. If he was the president, like, it should be easy to get, like, people a sense of relief, you know what I'm saying? Like, at the time, like, I just didn't agree with some of the agendas that were being put out. Boom. But, like, I ain't never announced my solidarity with no politician. Like, some people, they want Trump support. I'm like, I ain't. You ain't never seen me with no maga hat, nothing. I'm saying I don't support, really, no politicians. Like, because I do my research, you know, I see what they really gonna

[Charlamagne Tha God]

do for the people.

[Swae Lee]

Like, what are they gonna do that's gonna affect my everyday life? Like, I don't really think there's ever been a president in history that really made an impact on our everyday life, you know what I'm saying?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right now, as we speak. I mean, when you go, a positive impact. No, I mean, like, when you think about, you know, Lyndon B. Johnson with the Civil Rights act in 1964, you know, giving, like, black people the right to vote, giving women the right to vote.

[Swae Lee]

That's fire. Stuff like that. That's. That's. That's fire.

[Caller]

Fire.

[Swae Lee]

Like, it's rare. It's rare. I said it's rare.

[DJ Envy]

You know, don't vote for Kamala Harris. People assume that.

[Swae Lee]

Right, Right.

[DJ Envy]

It's only two kids.

[Swae Lee]

Because I didn't. I didn't denounce my. I didn't denounce, like, Trump either, but do not.

[DJ Envy]

But that's.

[Swae Lee]

That's. It's public. It's public. Everything on that. This. This is a new candidate. That's why I was like, Kamala's boon. Like, don't think. It's just like, Disneyland, you know? So you gotta look at what. What this person is pushing, you know what I'm saying? And looking back, well, right now, it's like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I can't see the future. Like, I don't know this Trump gonna get here and do it all this either.

[DJ Envy]

Like, but we.

[Swae Lee]

He already. He already showing himself as like, a. You know what I'm saying? He already got a lot of negative headlines on his name, you know what I'm saying? This is no surprise with him. I don't gotta speak about that. You know what I'm saying? Everybody already got their opinions on that. But, boom, this new person is like, just make sure you agree with everything this person trying to do. Make sure you know who they backed by. I don't want to say too much, you know what I'm saying? Getting myself. Get myself in some motion, but boom. You feel me? Yeah.

[Caller]

Did you get.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Did you get paid to post that?

[Swae Lee]

Hell, no. But speaking again, like, I. I could have got paid by Trump. Everything I turned down. Like, I ain't standing with that. Like, I don't want people to think I'm standing with none of that. I don't. I'm looking for a real political candidate that's gonna bring some real positive change, you know what I'm saying? Like, and it's real there. Like I said, I ain't never seen it. Like, I ain't never seen a good politician, even on a local level.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

There's definitely. Here's the thing. Oh, you know Nina.

[Swae Lee]

I don't really know the local level. Yeah. I don't really.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

There's a woman named Nina Turner, and she always says, you know, you May not do politics, but politics gonna do you for sure. Literally every single thing that we do, everything, every single day, is rooted in some type of legislation that somebody created.

[Swae Lee]

Yeah, one evil is worse than other. Like, it's always a worse surveillance feeling, you know what I'm saying? But, yeah, it's always somebody worse.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, but I'm just saying that there's. I'm talking about politics. Everything we do, every day, there's a piece of legislation that, you know, impacts it in some way, shape or form. That's what I'm saying, for sure.

[Swae Lee]

Yeah, like, definitely. Like, I probably shouldn't have said that statement though, for sure. Like, I'm not even speak on politics, you know what I'm saying?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How much did Trump. How much did Trump offer you? And did he offer it to you after do. And I know it wasn't himself, but like the administration.

[Swae Lee]

Yeah, of course they offer money one before, one after, you know what I'm saying? Like, to go perform at this and perform at that, you know what I'm saying? It's like, yeah, I ain't, I ain't taking that, you know, saying, I don't, I don't support necessarily that either, you know what I'm saying?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So they offered you money before the tweet.

[Swae Lee]

I like what Trump did with the taxes, but it's like all this other stuff is up, you know what I'm saying? Taking the black literature out of, you know I'm saying, curriculum and all that stuff. Like, like, so it's like, damn, like all these people, like, doing, you know what I'm saying? If I was the president, I know what I would do for the people. I had a man. It'd be sunny for everybody, you know what I'm saying? I wouldn't be sending billions of dollars overseas. I had it right here, you know what I'm saying, At the source. Like, we up in America, like, and we need to start taking care of, like, America first.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I agree.

[Swae Lee]

And then, you know, I'm saying all the other stuff, but it's like, it's really simple. So I was just like, I just wanted people to, like, had their eyes open and just really know what they voting for. Like, candidates seem sweet, and it's like, it's not really that sweet when you dig into it. You like, you gonna see policies you don't agree with, you know what I'm saying? So I'm just trying to keep people safe and basically just open people's eyes. I would. At the day, everybody got their own opinion Too. Like, vote for who you wanna vote for, love who you want to. You know what I'm saying? Boom. All that. But I was just making sure people are aware of everything. Like, so it's like, yeah, they still

[Charlamagne Tha God]

gonna be mad at you, though, Swae Lee, because they feel like you're responsible because. For getting Trump in office. Because you literally told a generation of people not to vote for Trump, even though that's a lot of responsibility to put on one person.

[Swae Lee]

I would say, damn, they don't listen to me for political advice.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You said, do not vote for Kamala.

[Swae Lee]

Yeah, at the time. You know, I'm saying I disagree with it, but I definitely will retract that statement.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Too late now. He in office.

[Angela Yee]

But I didn't really in office, because this way.

[Swae Lee]

Yeah, people not taking my political advice, you know what I'm saying? It's like, that's just my opinion, you know what I'm saying? Like, at the time, it's like, they still gonna vote for who they saw fit, you know what I'm saying? So I hope they still went to the polls and just did exactly what they wanted to do. Like, that was just. I was just, like, seeing some. That just, like, rubbed me the wrong way. Did you say, no, I didn't vote.

[Angela Yee]

You did all that.

[Swae Lee]

I ain't know who could I vote for.

[Angela Yee]

So what policies have you.

[Swae Lee]

I'm not voting for Trump.

[Angela Yee]

That you didn't vote. That you got on Twitter, like, what was it it? And you didn't.

[Swae Lee]

That just had me all up, like, damn, like, why we got candidates like that? Like that? Like, I'm just like, I don't want the blue pill or the red pill. You know what I'm saying? So that was me personally. But, yeah, everybody can do what they want to do. Like, have your own opinion, whatever you, like, go for it. You know what I'm saying? Like, me personally, I'm just. I was just seeing too much. I'm just like, damn, bro. I don't. I don't agree with either one of these people. You know what I'm saying?

[Caller]

So.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But did you talk to anybody, like, did you talk to anybody, you know, that actually has knowledge of politics that you could have said, yo, man, tell me why I should vote for Kamala or tell me why I should vote for Trump or tell me why I shouldn't vote for Kamala?

[Swae Lee]

That would probably been a good conversation. But I just. I just started doing my own research. Like, just looking. Just Googling. Yeah, Googling. Not Googling.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Googling.

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Swae Lee]

Actual, like, policies.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What policies upset you?

[Swae Lee]

It's gonna upset people if I even say it. Say, listen. And it's looking into it. It could have been propaganda, you know what I'm saying? So that's what I'm saying. Like, I wouldn't even. Like going back. I wouldn't even spoke on that, you know what I'm saying? But.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But you can definitely.

[Swae Lee]

It's no better now. Like, what was going on right now is like, you know what I'm saying? In all type of different ways, you know what I'm saying? So that's why, you know, saying. I never even stood with BRO Either. I never expressed my solidarity with brave Trump either, you know what I'm saying? So.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But, you know, it's so ill. A lot of the things that's happening now, if you listen to Kamala, when she was the vice president and she was running, she told us exactly what was going to happen. She told us exactly what Trump was going to do when he got in office and he's doing it.

[Swae Lee]

She said that?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. There's montages of literally her explaining everything, like, you know, from. I mean. I mean, literally everything from legislation to, you know, the wars, everything. Like, she's explained it all.

[Swae Lee]

No, I feel that's. That's real. That's real. Yeah. I don't really.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You don't know what you was talking about.

[Swae Lee]

I gotta do more. I'm do research, like, more researching next time. Yeah, I'm with the people. I want positive change for the people. I'm standing with the people, you know what I'm saying? Like, I want them to get a sense of relief. That's. That's what I'm just searching for, you know what I'm saying? Like, I want the exact same thing the average American wants, you know what I'm saying, man?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, tell us about this record you wrote for Chili featuring Nicki Minaj.

[Swae Lee]

Yo, which one?

[Caller]

Oh, never mind.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I thought you wrote a record.

[DJ Envy]

You do that chilling Nicki Minaj.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Which one?

[DJ Envy]

Ray J.

[Swae Lee]

The hell is that?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Don't worry about it.

[DJ Envy]

All right.

[Swae Lee]

April Fool. Like April fool

[DJ Envy]

swearly, ladies and gentlemen.

[Swae Lee]

Oh, boy, hell you talking about? That Republican song, ladies and gentlemen, it's Sway Lee.

[DJ Envy]

Ladies and gentlemen, games the breakfast.

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[DJ Envy]

Good morning. Let's get to the latest with Lauren.

[Swae Lee]

Lauren becoming a street fan.

[DJ Envy]

She gets them from somebody that knows somebody. She gets the details.

[Angela Yee]

I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She be having the latest on

[State Farm Announcer]

the

[John Hope Bryant]

Latest with Lauren LaRosa.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Sometimes you have facts, sometimes you have detail. Sometimes you have a little bit of everything.

[DJ Envy]

Well, it's the latest brought to you by Top Dog Law on the Breakfast Club.

[Swae Lee]

Talk to me.

[Angela Yee]

All right, so on the last latest, we talked about Pooh Shiesty, his father, and another Memphis rapper named Big 30 and. And several other people being arrested or taken. Taken into federal custody for allegedly putting together what was supposed to be an armed robbery and kidnapping of Gucci Mane and several others. Now, I want to make it clear they have not been officially charged with anything yet. That has not happened, but according to police documents.

[DJ Envy]

I always thought that was crazy that you can arrest somebody and not charge him as he it. I always thought that was crazy, but go ahead.

[Angela Yee]

Well, I mean, it's a. There's a process to it, right? But if you have something worth holding people on, you got it. Right? So, yeah, so there'll be more there. But anyway, let's get into some of the evidence because we talked about what happened lastly. Now let's talk about what police said that they have. So there's several different points of evidence. So number one, Pooh Shiesty, we know he was just released like what, six, seven months ago.

[DJ Envy]

Yes.

[Angela Yee]

And a part of his release was that he would be on a home confinement in Texas. Now, he was in a halfway house in Texas and the conditions were mandatory drug testing. He couldn't, you know, be around certain controlled substances, reporting to a probation officers. You know, you can't get in trouble. You can't do any of the things

[DJ Envy]

that definitely can't be around firearms, firearms,

[Angela Yee]

arms, a bunch of different things. Now, his ankle bracelet was actually one of the evidence pieces that police are pointing to with him because they said that the location monitor on the ankle bracelet put him allegedly at the studio.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Angela Yee]

There was also a phone call that the victims in this, you know, police brief say that they overheard. So allegedly rd, or who would be Gucci man heard a phone call between Pooh Shiesty and his probation officer. They think it was a probation officer anyway. And if the alleged phone call happened, Pooh Shiesty was on the phone phone basically was supposed to be home at a certain time and was it thought that he could be out on wreck, which is like his free time, and said, okay, I'll make my way home. Once it was told to him that that was not approved. Gucci Mane allegedly overheard the phone call and was like, oh, well, we can reschedule this business meeting before everything went down and push, I see, declined that. So that whole probation situation was one of the evidence pieces linking Pooh Shiesty. There's also rental car records with Pooh Shiesty's dad allegedly returning a rental car at some point. Pooh Shiesty and his dad are allegedly on some sort of surveillance footage at a Staples. And police or feds believe that they were printing out that contract.

[DJ Envy]

All the evidence. It sounds like they're just saying that they were all at the studio. Right. Which at the end of the day, you can be in the studio. That's not illegal. Now, all. Everything that happened in the studio is there footage or any of that.

[Angela Yee]

So there are photos from body cam in the complaint there, the filing, there's photos from the body cam of police when they arrived that night. But they. There's nothing. I mean, you have photos of them entering and exiting from because it's like an office complex. But I Don't. I haven't seen any actual video from inside of the studio when everything was going down yet. But police could add more evidence here, and they probably will.

[DJ Envy]

So the police went that night that it actually happened. So somebody reached out to the police that night.

[Angela Yee]

According to the document, they have photos within the studio from the night of the alleged incident. And those photos are screen grabs from body cam on the officers who showed up. Now, that leads me to the conversation of how did the cops even know that this had been. Because this has been rumored for some time that this happened. Right. So according to these documents, again, people are listed in. In initial, so rd. Mm. And people are pointing to the fact that they believe that RD may be a Gucci man who is Roderick Davis. So police detail several different accounts that they. They took in. They say that, you know, between who would be allegedly Gucci man and his camp, that Gucci that RD allegedly identified, along with others, what Pooh Shiesty was wearing. Uh, like, you know, a black Nike Shiesty and some other cl. There is details of one of the initials who I believe was the guy with the. The bruises in the photo that alleged, you know, who pointed guns at who they. There's conversation between one of the other executives that. That would have been there with the person that people believe to be Gucci man, alleging, you know, the details of the watches that were taken. There's photos of some of the people who were there with Push Iisti that police or feds grabbed from social media that were posted to Instagram of these watches. Like, people.

[DJ Envy]

So they were wearing the stolen items. They were wearing the stolen items on social.

[Angela Yee]

Wearing the necklaces, the 1017 necklaces, according to the feds as well, too. So, I mean, there's a lot of conversation there about, like, who said what. But police do not specifically point to who picked up the phone and called the cops who arrived there and how that all started. But they do allege who identified what in this document. And, you know, we'll leave that at what I'm reading.

[DJ Envy]

I seen in social media yesterday, they were trying to say that. That Gucci was working with the police, and people were so upset and people with this, that, and the other. But they haven't said yet who reached out because I seen so many different accounts. I seen the. The camera guy, like I said, had bruises on his neck and on his arms, and there was pictures of that. So, yes, that just tells you that he spoke with the police, because how else would they have the pictures? Right.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah. Yes, I Mean, somebody had to, because they ended up, you know, knowing what was happening. Now, Poosh, Pooh Sexy's attorney, Bradford Cohen told me last night that at this time, all they can say is that they're currently looking into the charges and allegations against their client. And as soon as they have more info, I'll get a more of a further statement. I have reached out to attorneys on Gucci Mane's side as well, too. I have not heard anything back, so.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, and the whole thing just sounds stupid. I mean, like I said earlier, Pooh Shiesty is a platinum selling artist who has a huge presence with the youth. Right. They love him. His record outdid Mariah Carey's record at number one for a couple of weeks.

[Swae Lee]

Weeks.

[DJ Envy]

There's no reason why he should be putting himself in that predicament or his. His team shouldn't be putting him in that predicament because now he might have to sit for a long time. Because it might.

[Angela Yee]

I mean, well, it is. It's 50. 50. Yeah. Because you don't know. You still got. He still has to go through the course, so. Yeah. It's just crazy to me. I don't know what they thought. When I was reading all the documents, I'm like, this is like a movie. Like, I can't believe that I'm actually reading this from a federal, you know, organization. But.

[DJ Envy]

And.

[Angela Yee]

And wrapping this up, taking it to something, you know, more uplifting. O. That was kind of heavy. Remember we talked about the verses?

[DJ Envy]

Yes.

[Angela Yee]

Tank. Tyrese.

[DJ Envy]

Yes.

[Angela Yee]

Remember that turtleneck moment?

[DJ Envy]

Yes.

[Angela Yee]

You know, Tank then dropped the song Turtleneck.

[DJ Envy]

He did?

[Angela Yee]

Yeah. On. On dsps. Yes. Listen.

[DJ Envy]

Brilliant, T. Brilliant.

[Angela Yee]

Let it play out.

[DJ Envy]

I like the song.

[Angela Yee]

No, wait. Hey, hey, oh, hey.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.

[Angela Yee]

What is that? What is this? Envy? What is that?

[DJ Envy]

Oh, I don't know.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah, I like that. Pop your collar, make your turtleneck go. Come on, come on.

[DJ Envy]

They make a club like this.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They're going to come like this.

[Angela Yee]

Hey, sweating all the un. Y' all be having rags in the club anyway.

[DJ Envy]

Turtleneck salute to Tank. And also we got to salute to Cardi B. I heard she got. She got the key to the city.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah. Whoa. That's crazy.

[DJ Envy]

The Bronx.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Angela Yee]

Cardi B got the key to the city, not the Bronx. She got the key to the city of Boston. She was there for Little Miss Drama Tour. Another sold out date. Let's take a listen to Cardi.

[Mimi Brown]

Thank you.

[Angela Yee]

And I love that the city council of Boston is a Dominican woman. We have a really Big Dominican community

[Mimi Brown]

out here out in Boston, especially in Lawrence and Massachusetts, in Massachusetts as a whole. And today is April 2nd, and it's Cardi B Day.

[Angela Yee]

And on Cardi B Day, I want

[Mimi Brown]

you guys every April 2nd to drink tea.

[Angela Yee]

We're red on. I see Cardi with red eye. Yeah, I saw some of the fan accounts trying to congratulate Cardi, but trying to make it so, like, a thing with her and Bia because, you know, B is from a town close to Boston. But the. The. To be fair, the city counselor at large, she probably didn't. She's not in tune into all that. She just. She wanted to salute Cardi because she said Cardi is herself and she puts on for their. You know, for all their people that she represents for.

[DJ Envy]

So salute to Baldi B.

[Angela Yee]

Yes. And that tour, Little Miss Drama tour tour now has sold because of the. The Madison Square Garden locations. Puts her as the first tour by female rapper in history to gross over $5 million at a single venue for one of the nights across the two Madison Square Garden nights. So salute.

[DJ Envy]

I'm so proud of body. All right, well, that is the latest, and that's brought to you by Top Dog Law.

[Angela Yee]

Any accident, big or small, y' all call Top Dog Law.

[DJ Envy]

All right? Now, Charlemagne is out today, so if you want to give somebody donkey of the day, 8 under 5, 851051. Whoever you want to give donkey of the day to, give us a call right now. And also, it is Young and May's birthday, so let's get on. Oh, Mr. Breakfast Club. Come on.

[John Hope Bryant]

It's your time to nominate a donkey of your own. Remember now, that is how they choose. Call in now.

[DJ Envy]

800-585-1051. Hello? Yo, who's this?

[Caller]

Yo, it's Nick.

[DJ Envy]

Nick, what's up? Who you want to give donkey today

[Caller]

to, man, it's going to be an easy one. It's going to be pooh sight, pooh shy.

[DJ Envy]

Why you ain't giving donkey? Yeah, break it down.

[Caller]

Now, listen, bro, homie was already on house arrest, previous gun charges. You had an ankle monitor, bro. How you thought this was going to turn out? You know what I'm saying? And he want. Look, so he wanted out of his contract, but instead he want it out of his freedom.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, you're right. And I've been thinking about it, too, and I'm like, well, how did you want this to end, right? Because it's not just like. It was just you and Gucci, right? You had. Had, I guess the Assistant, which is. Or the cameraman, which is the white individual where you see the scars on his neck and the scars on his hands, Right? You had security guards there, and if they were law or off duty police officers, they have to report it. It's just like, hey, how do you want this to end? And for Pooh Shiesty and his team, it's like, he's the money maker, right? He's the one that's out. He's doing well. The kids love him. The kids are following his trends. It's like, how is this supposed to end? You know?

[Caller]

Know, crazy work. Beyond diabolo.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, it's very, very sad, man. Thank you for calling, brother.

[Caller]

Can I give a shout out real quick?

[DJ Envy]

Go ahead, bro.

[Caller]

Shout out to all my people in Boston. My Cape Verdean, Happy Friday.

[DJ Envy]

All right, brother, Have a good one. Salute to all the Cape Verdeans in Boston as well.

[John Hope Bryant]

Hello?

[DJ Envy]

Who's this?

[Angela Yee]

Janine.

[DJ Envy]

Hey, Janine. Who you want to give Donkey today, too?

[Angela Yee]

Well, first, I want to say that. I want to say that my brother

[Caller]

Mike has come out of jail.

[Angela Yee]

We just want to congratulate him on that, okay?

[Caller]

And let him know that we support him.

[Angela Yee]

But I got two options to give.

[Caller]

First to those people that say they,

[Angela Yee]

you know, they wish good for you, but they really don't. And you try to do right by them, and they still kind of do

[Caller]

you wrong, but you never put out

[Angela Yee]

on them like that.

[DJ Envy]

Okay?

[Angela Yee]

So that's the first thing. But also, I want to give a thank you for the Charlamagne.

[DJ Envy]

Why?

[Caller]

Because I don't know.

[Angela Yee]

I don't know if y'.

[Caller]

All.

[Angela Yee]

If y' all had said it.

[Caller]

Did y' all wish send condolences to Safari Samuel?

[DJ Envy]

No, we didn't say that. I seen that his mother passed. I seen that yesterday.

[Angela Yee]

No, I thought he posted another post, too. Yeah. Okay, so.

[Caller]

So. So also, y' all love to talk

[Angela Yee]

about him when it's bad, but when

[Caller]

he be something good, y', all, y', all.

[Angela Yee]

I mean, you know, saying that.

[Caller]

That.

[Swae Lee]

That.

[Angela Yee]

That would be on me. That that would be on me.

[Caller]

Okay?

[Angela Yee]

So.

[Caller]

So please give Safari Samuel some shout out.

[Angela Yee]

Was not here today.

[DJ Envy]

No, he's not here today.

[Caller]

Okay, so tell him Janine said to send her. Her friend Safari some condolences.

[Angela Yee]

His mother did pass away.

[DJ Envy]

Okay, well, you just said it. Thank you so much, Mama. Hello? Who's this?

[Caller]

Yo. What's good, Envy? This is the Incredible Hulk.

[DJ Envy]

What up, brother?

[Caller]

What up? What up? Listen, I have to give Donkey of the day to Pooh. Shiesty, bruh, how are you gonna go into a studio like Easy E, thinking you with Suge Knight to try to get Gucci to release you from a contract? Like this. The 90s, like, people not gonna go to jail today. That's insane to me, my man.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, I just. I just think. Let's. Let's. Let's just say. Which keeps going through my mind, let's say Gucci said, you know what? I ain't signing. Wanting it. You would have shot. You would have killed Gucci, most likely, because he reckless.

[Caller]

Just by him setting them up like that, it just proves that, mentally, he wasn't even there. Like, that's. That whole situation. Knowing that there's cameras around, you don't have a mask on. People know you're meeting with them, and then you go in there with duffel bags with guns, and then you rob people. Yeah. This wasn't gonna end right.

[DJ Envy]

No matter what happened, I'm with you.

[Caller]

And then I hope they lock him up for life. That's what that gangster ish is like. Played out, bro.

[DJ Envy]

No, the thing is, he was on probation, and it's like, you know, these kids follow him. He's doing well. He's not, like, he's not a struggling artist. He's making six figures on his shows. You know what I mean?

[Angela Yee]

That FDO song that he dropped was, like, number one Apple music charts for, like, over. Mariah Carey's All I Want for Christmas for, like, months.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah. So now you put yourself in a situation and his team, too. Like, y' all all put yourselves in a situation where the breadwinner was, where the. The. The. The person that's out there, where you can be a road manager, where you can be a stylist, where you can be a promoter, where you can do all these things, be a producer is locked up or having to fight a case. It just doesn't make any sense. But.

[Caller]

And don't make. He just messed up everything for his family. He. Now he's gonna go back, his father's gonna be up in there. Like, he literally just messed up every blessing that he got.

[John Hope Bryant]

Yeah.

[Caller]

He got a second chance, and he blew it by doing something stupid like that.

[DJ Envy]

And then, not only that. I mean, I think any lawyer would tell you, if you sign a contract under duress, 9 times out of 10, they gonna void that contract. Right? They. They gonna void that contract. Yes.

[Caller]

What. Why would you record a. It's. I. I don't understand people. Today I was just driving to work. I was like, this is Stupid.

[DJ Envy]

Thank you, brother.

[Caller]

I don't know, man. Thank you.

[DJ Envy]

Have a great weekend. Hello? Who's this?

[Caller]

What up, Envy? This is Arsenio from Buffalo, man.

[DJ Envy]

What's up, Arsenio? Talk to us, bro. Brother, who you giving donkey to today, man?

[Caller]

Man, I got three quick donkeys for you real quick.

[DJ Envy]

Go ahead.

[Caller]

All right, so first donkey is obviously them Pooh shotsi boys that did that to Gucci. That's all right. Second one is anybody that did that thinks that Gucci is wrong for saying something. Obviously, they don't care about their life like he does. They don't care about his family like he does, and they don't care about his career like he does. The people that think Gucci is wrong are put in the streets before their lives, and that's. That's just not right.

[DJ Envy]

You know, Arsenal, you know, the crazy thing about it is just my gut, I don't think Gucci said anything. And I know in the. And I know in the paperwork, they said so and so identified this person. I don't think. And the paperwork can be wrong. I don't think so. Because be honest, you got the camera. The camera guy who's a white individual that's taping that.

[Caller]

Have.

[DJ Envy]

They have pictures of his injuries. So that means he went to the police. If they have pictures, pictures of his injuries. Right? Then you had Gucci security. And if you. They were off duty police officers, they had to report the crime. So I don't necessarily think Gucci spoke, but regardless, it's just stupid. It's just so damn stupid. It.

[John Hope Bryant]

It.

[DJ Envy]

It just so damn stupid. And I hate to say it, cuz Pooh Shiesty is a very talented rapper.

[Caller]

So many lives ruined over this.

[DJ Envy]

Y.

[Caller]

So many lives. And my third donkey is going to go to the editors that make the podcast version of this show.

[Angela Yee]

Oh, wow. What happened?

[Caller]

Please stop putting the ads in between Envy segments, Jesse segments, Charlemagne segments, and Lauren segments. Stop putting the ads in between those.

[Angela Yee]

You gotta pay the bills, though.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, you gotta pay the bills, brother.

[Caller]

No, no, no, no, no. Put the ads where Envy drops the numbers and he's going on to the next segment. Drop the ad.

[DJ Envy]

Got you. Don't. Don't put it in between me talking. You're saying.

[Caller]

Because we're gonna forget about what Lauren is saying.

[DJ Envy]

Gotcha, gotcha.

[Caller]

We gotta work our way back into the conversation.

[Angela Yee]

And I be talking a lot, man.

[Caller]

Yeah, she be talking.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And we love to listen to everybody's text.

[Caller]

We love to. But when Envy drops that phone number and he's going on to the next segment. Drop the ads. It's perfect editing.

[DJ Envy]

I got you. Thank you, brother.

[Caller]

All right. Love y'. All.

[DJ Envy]

The people's donkey. 800-585-1051. Now, when we come back, John Hope Bryant will be joining us. He has a new book, Capitalism for All, Inclusive Economics and the Future Proofing of America. We're going to talk to him, so don't go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Lauren laros is here as well. We got a special guest in the building. Yes, indeed, John Hope Brian is back. Welcome.

[John Hope Bryant]

Honored to be with you.

[DJ Envy]

New book, right now, Capitalism for All, available right now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Now, you know, that's a provocative title, Capitalism for All. People will say it sounds good, but has capitalism in America ever actually been for all?

[John Hope Bryant]

Not really.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And is it good for all?

[John Hope Bryant]

Can be okay. I mean, look, the Bible says money's not evil. It's the love of money that's evil. And look, you know, 2008 economic crisis was really bad for a lot of people. Wasn't bad for me. I didn't take one of those reverse subprime mortgages with a negative amortization loan. Pick a payment where every payment you made, you were broker, you owed more money. After every payment was a negative amortization loan. That's financial literacy. That's people taking advantage of our people. You know, good capitalism is where I benefit and you benefit more.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, you've been benefiting for a long time.

[John Hope Bryant]

No, no. Stand by.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[John Hope Bryant]

Good capitalism, my definition, good capitalism, where I benefit and you benefit more. So somebody designing a, a comb or glasses or, you know, that jacket and. Okay, I like the jacket, the glass. The glasses make me enhance my look. It's worth the money I'm paying for it. Bad capitalism is where I benefit and you pay a price for it. Rape, murder, sex trafficking, drug dealing, you know, we, we can talk. Is gangsterism on Wall street or Main Street? Good debt and bad debt.

[Swae Lee]

Right.

[John Hope Bryant]

Good debt is something that's tied to something that appreciates real estate, stocks, bonds and businesses. Bad debts tie something to depreciates financing, jewelry, you know, and so all these things are neutral. It depends how you use them. Right. So something hit me two days ago when I was preparing to come in here, and I didn't want to come in here with just talking about a book because it's not about the book. It's about. This is about a business plan for the Rest of our lives. How do I explain that? It hit me like we're in the third reconstruction right now. From the streets to the suites. Color. The only, the only, the only colorblind color is economic green. That's the only colorblind color now. Second reconstruction. We thought we, I'm talking about black people now. We thought we made it. We thought we were free. Reality is we didn't make it. Somebody made it for us. Andrew Young, who was here? Ambassador Andrew Young, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Dr. Dorothy Height, Greta Scott King. King. The heroes and sheroes of the second reconstruction and the President, President Johnson and the legislatures created these, this infrastructure post slavery, first reconstruction freedom. Where we had affirmative action, we had, you call it DEI now. You had set aside contracts. You have, you, you have, you, you have voting rights and all public access laws. So we're like, okay, cool, we're free. No, no, you're in a bubble. We're in a 70 year bubble of protection. This is deep when you think about this. We thought we were operating in the free enterprise system and capitalism and we were out here doing our thing and no, you're operating in a padded sale.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Expand, expound on that.

[John Hope Bryant]

It only hit me a couple days ago. I've been, I've been wondering like why am I so uncomfortable? Why do I think we're in trouble? We thought, thought that when we got that job in the 60s, we were able to go to the lunch counter in the 60s that we were free. We thought, okay, we got the right to vote. We got. No, that was dependent upon somebody else according your respect and dignity. It was dependent upon the government always being fair and reasonable. It was dependent upon the popular public never turning, turning against us. It was dependent upon Dr. King, Andrew Young, others giving their life so that we might have have life so that we have the right to vote. I mean it's literally codified in a, in, in the cons, you know, in the amended constitution. So we would have the right because we were considered property. So these things were afforded us, not provided to us. It wasn't an original thing. It was a, it was a layered on thing. It was a box of protection that thank God all that came before us gave us, but they gave it to us.

[Caller]

Us.

[John Hope Bryant]

We didn't give it to ourselves and we don't own it. And it could be taken away as we're seeing now. Boom. And what hit me, why am I so uncomfortable? We cash a check, we don't write it. We had access to the lunch counter. We don't own it. We bounce the basketball. We don't own the stadium. I was hit a basketball game with Tony wrestler owner of Atlanta Hawks, my business partner friend, two weeks ago. So they won that night and he was very happy. But I was in the players area where they parked the cars. I mean, it looked like a parking lot. It looked. It looked like one of your car shows. It was absolutely beautiful. And I'm so proud. These brothers legitimately making their money and all that kind of thing. The humblest car in the whole parking lot was Tony. The only one not dripping in jewelry. Tony that jeans on. On a pullover. His wife Jamie Gertz dressed down. They worth? I don't know. I don't tell their business, but 15 billion.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Executive producer of the Magic City documentary too, by the way.

[Swae Lee]

No, that's right.

[Angela Yee]

That's right.

[John Hope Bryant]

Honorary black people, really cool people. They put their money where the mouth is. But we don't own that. They do. And he paid the players with his petty cash. But the players are not flossing, but they're flowing like they own the whole situation. I mean, they own the. I asked Tony, how much does the front row cost? I looked there. Tony, by the way, Tony's up at the 10th row. We up. You call it a nose seats. We're over the 10th row. I'm cool with it. I'm with the owner, but down. He's like, oh, yeah, that's. He knew the price of every seat. 3, 500 per ticket per seat, per game. He knew. And he.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because he.

[John Hope Bryant]

Cha Ching, cha Ching, cha Ching.

[Swae Lee]

Yeah.

[John Hope Bryant]

Another billionaire friend of mine used to own strip clubs and, and, and, and all kind of other clubs. And he said to me one day, we should go to one of these clubs. I'm like, what do you mean? We mean we should go to the. You don't you didn't you own these clubs? I've never been to one. My children have never been to one. My family have never. I won't let them go. He. For 20 years, he bought them, owned them, sold them. So I'm looking at the system and saying, we cashed that check. We never wrote it. We didn't. We weren't. We didn't graduate to owning the company or CEO at scale. We didn't graduate to ownership. We didn't. We didn't take the next lept. We got comfortable in the second reconstruction. And then when the mood shifted in this country, it all fell away. And, and, and what hits me now is falling away all at once. And now you have A government that's either neutral to you you or hostile. We never had this in the history of this country. At the federal level. You had a mayor, you had a governor. Never at the federal level. So now the civil rights assumptions are fading away. People are talking about white people are being discriminated against. They're flipping the civil rights acts on some on their heads. You can't. So you're on your own. You cannot rely on the government. You're being thrown into 300, 000 black women last year conservative number were unemployed qualified competent people. The unemployment rate for black people is double the national average today in growing. So you have. Economically, we're being thrown into the fire. Politically, we've thrown into the fire. Socially, you're thrown into the fire, right? And AI changing the game all at the same time. I'm saying, you know what? We've been doing so much with so little for so long, we can almost do anything with nothing. We just need to master this new game. Because to quote Reverend Jesse Jackson, where the. God rest his soul, where the rules are published and the playing field is level, we kill it. The arts. Top of the game. Congratulations on Netflix, by the way.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Thank you, sir.

[John Hope Bryant]

Congrats. Top. Top of the game. Not the black game, not the brown game. The game Faith. Our brother, Our brother Bishop T.D. jakes and many others. Others. Politics from slavery. The President of the United States of America, President Barack Obama. Professional sports. Too many examples to name. Jordan's now gone from basketball in NASCAR to nascar. By the way, congratulations on your, on your sponsorship of a NASCAR team. I'm paying attention. But we haven't done it in capitalism.

[DJ Envy]

Now this conversation that, that we're having, I feel like we have this conversation every two years, right? We talk about, put a mirror into our community and we talk about, about that we don't have home ownership, that, you know, we don't have assets. And we look at all the things that a lot of us do have, whether it's cars, it's jewelry, it's this. When does that change? And we start going into a plan to do something different, right? When does that change? Because we have these conversations every year, you know, and you know, we'll say, hey, look at the owner of the company. He's wearing a ugly polo and some khakis, and everybody else is wearing and $10,000 Chrome Heart jeans, right? We go through this every, every couple of years, but how do we change that? Because if not, it's just the same conversation over and over again, right? And you Talked about the 2008 market, the real estate market that fell and yeah, it fell because I think a lot of people that didn't have means found it their only way to get in, right? Because a lot of people's credit scores were low. A lot of people didn't have the finances to put down on their first home. A lot of people don't know much about. I remember in that 2000, 2008 market, I think my interest rates at the time when I bought my house was like 12.

[John Hope Bryant]

That's right. That was the average, right.

[DJ Envy]

I didn't know any better. I asked a friend at the time which was. Was Busta Rhymes. And Busta Rhymes was like, use my guy and you use this guy and you think 12 is what you. What it is. And then you learn. So how do we change that, you know, because people don't know who to trust anymore, right?

[John Hope Bryant]

So first of all, I never let the perfect become the death of the good. So. So I'm glad you got in the game in 2008. I almost lost my house in 2008. It was a. Not because I got a bad mortgage. It was some other things going on. But you know, it went down in value. All my friends told me to sell it. They were broke. Luckily I didn't. But I couldn't pay the property taxes easily. And I rented out to a. A police officer, a black police officer to be specific, in la. He didn't pay his rent right on time. Time. But I held on to it. And it went from 200 000. I bought it for 200000 down 160 or something. People, everybody sell, sell, sell. I hold on to it. And five years later I looked up it's worth 750 000. And I sold it, got a capital gains, took that money 1031 tax free exchange, flipped it into a property now worth 5 million. But I, but, but. So I don't begrudge you or anybody else trying and getting in the game. You were actually pioneering, actually. And everybody who tried were pioneering, pioneering. But pioneers get arrows. Here's what gives me hope, man. Trying to do so I get emotional. I went to Delta last night late. We coach all 100,000 Delta employees at operational. But the person who sent me at the curb, young lady, she put out her American Express blue card and then there were American Express platinum card. And she's like, I've been on this, this grind for two years, John. My credit score is 7 11. And she knew, she knew everything about her Entire financial picture. I didn't start this conversation. She ran her mouth from the time we headed that curb to the time I got on that plane, talking about her life and how it had completely transformed her self esteem is up. I get on the plane, three people walk on. Can I get a picture? This is. This is. This is. Y' all aren't used to this. I've been doing this for 33 years. I don't know what happened. It's like a. It's like a switch is flipped. And I've had a billion video views in two years. But this thing I'm having, talking about right now, this is like the last eight months. I can't go anywhere. I'm on the plane. Can I get a picture? I get off the plane. Yo, man, what's up? Come at midnight. Something's happened, man. I don't know what it is, but it's inspiring.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And you're not saying that because of. Of. For ego purposes. You're saying that because of the information. No, I'm saying people are eating.

[John Hope Bryant]

Are you eating information up? It's got nothing to do with me. I've been saying this for 30, 33 years. If I was special, I should have been special 30 years ago. There's nothing to do with me. I'm emotional because I'm like, oh, my people smart. We. We get in the memo. We, we. I. I'm not screaming into the wilderness. I just think, you know, Dr. King gave that I have a dream speech, man, a hundred times before the march on Washington. So many times that Mahalia Jackson said, if you looked at the tape, she's off to the left. Tell them about the dream, Martin. Translation, I've heard this speech so many dang on times. Will you please give me something original? And he ripped.

[DJ Envy]

He started.

[John Hope Bryant]

He started rapping black children, white children, Jews. But before that, he thought he was not effective. And there's so many leaders who I'm sure you show up here and you. Well, you're saying it now. We've been talking about this for every two years. I just think you got to wait for the moment. You can't go to grace, but you can prepare yourself well for the coming of grace to you. Our people are smart, man. But if it looks easy, if it looks like there's an easier route, we don't take it. That's in human nature. Nobody changes in good times. Why would you. You just go shopping? I just think that. I think business celebrity is a new celebrity. I think capitalism has to include us in The Capital Stack. Let's stop hating this game and let's master it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's John o'. Brien. Go pick up Capitalism for all. And make sure you download the Money and Wealth podcast on the Black Effect Podcast Network. John o' Brien will actually be with us at the Black Effect Podcast festival in Atlanta, Georgia on April 25th. He's on the the AI panel, I believe. Yeah, the AI panel. So come check out John Hope Bryant at the Black Effect podcast festival, Saturday, April 25th in Atlanta, Georgia. John, love you, brother.

[John Hope Bryant]

Love you back. Let me just say this before we wrap up. You, you, you are a bad brother. And people have no idea how smart you are, are, and what an underground prophet you are about the community. You really care about, your community. I get calls from you at midnight on the weekend and you. It's never about you. It's always about how do we make our community better. And people don't know you're an owner. And you've lifted other people up with your book imprint and your in your podcast platform. You could have done this all for yourself by yourself, but you bring other folks with you and that's the kind of role model we need, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Thank you, John. I appreciate you. Go pick up Capitalism for all available everywhere you buy books now. It's John o'. Brien. It's the.

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[Angela Yee]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

Breakfast Club.

[DJ Envy]

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne the guy we are the Breakfast Club. It's time for past the Orcs.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Big night. La Simone study Brewster Young, 1990.

[Angela Yee]

Now he throws me off and then he brings me back at that.

[DJ Envy]

Like Nyla.

[Mimi Brown]

Both coach.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They know our name.

[Angela Yee]

Oh, that's hard. That's hard. I'm using that when he say you gay, but you great.

[Swae Lee]

Always do that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Gay can be great too.

[Angela Yee]

I know she not gay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That was a terrible contract.

[Mimi Brown]

All right, all right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You want to them to hate you so bad.

[Angela Yee]

Yep.

[DJ Envy]

Continue on. Go ahead, focus n focus n focus, focus, focus.

[Angela Yee]

I'm entertaining as hell just now, but.

[Mimi Brown]

All right.

[Angela Yee]

I want to get into this new joint off of Lary's new ep. It's called Respect the Young. And now Lorizi's coming out of New Orleans and definitely one of those ones.

[Swae Lee]

I like him and I like the beat. I don't like that together.

[Angela Yee]

Okay.

[Swae Lee]

But I do like the beat and I like him. I, I don't know.

[DJ Envy]

I just gotta see how we got there.

[Angela Yee]

It was a lot to process.

[DJ Envy]

Like, I gotta see how. How we started. Like, you just threw us in the middle of everything. Like, you know, I mean, I just want to see how.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Good point. Don't bother me because I'm up on Larezi and I think Lareezy's dope. I think he's super tough. So hearing that just sounds like he's just trying something and it don't bother me.

[Swae Lee]

Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Really dope.

[Swae Lee]

I don't know. This is my introduction to Louisiana.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Angela Yee]

Okay. Well, I think it's dope about him is, you know, good pen, but the just Louisiana. The Louisiana accent. Yeah, yeah. Like, it's very New Orleans. Very fly little. That's how you feel.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's how they talk in New Orleans. It's a little.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah.

[Angela Yee]

No, I love that. I, I, it's just fast.

[Swae Lee]

He was just going fast.

[Angela Yee]

I'm gonna send it to you so

[Mimi Brown]

you can hear it from.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, I just need to see how would he. How he got there. Like the intro into it with a. Would it help me out a lot?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The production is like old school New Orleans too.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah. All right, so the next joint is going to be from Kanye.

[Caller]

I didn't.

[Mimi Brown]

Okay.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah, it's from Kanye. Love Bully, and it's called Whatever works.

[Caller]

Yeah.

[Angela Yee]

It's off of Blue. Everybody saying that he wasn't spitting and they wanted something new. They expected Some storytelling. Whatever works. Is he definitely spitting?

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah.

[Angela Yee]

Talk about back then. Now I got here everything. So whatever works is one of my favorite joints.

[Swae Lee]

On new Billy album Tough tool.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I want to hear Kanye produce more for other people, though. I think that's the best thing he could be doing right now.

[Angela Yee]

I'll take both. I'll take both. Because it was really nice to hear

[Charlamagne Tha God]

the old Kanye if he's talking about something.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah. And. And that was one of the records where he was doing that, so that's talking about something on a few of them joints. Oh, yeah. But definitely would love to hear Kanye tap in with the new generation, but I don't.

[Swae Lee]

I don't know.

[Angela Yee]

I. I don't know. All right, lastly, I'm gonna get into this R B record from Leia. She's from Staten Island. I played her up here last year, actually. But she's about to drop a new project, so this is the first single. It's called Luber. I can hear somebody right now making that a challenge that, you know how they be doing. But that's cool. I. It was cool. It's cool vibe.

[Swae Lee]

I like it.

[Angela Yee]

Y. A challenge would be hilarious, actually.

[Swae Lee]

It's going to be a bunch of people.

[Angela Yee]

E. And then Jaque is going to be. I was the first one to E.

[Swae Lee]

It's going to be too much.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The E Challenge is good.

[Swae Lee]

I like it.

[State Farm Announcer]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

Do the E Challenge.

[Angela Yee]

Yo, that's tough, actually. Yeah. We got to execute that, but okay. What you guys think?

[Swae Lee]

It was cool.

[DJ Envy]

I dug it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I had no problem with it.

[Angela Yee]

I feel like I got to start all the songs from the beginning for you guys. Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

I kind of need the intro to see where it comes from, you know what I mean?

[Angela Yee]

Especially with Lorizy, because now I'm more.

[Swae Lee]

I'm. I'm. I'm more curious.

[DJ Envy]

You want to know how you got there? Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[Caller]

They vouch for him.

[Swae Lee]

Yeah, I know.

[Angela Yee]

And then I love Louisiana rappers too, so. Yeah, I definitely got to check out Larzy. Okay, all noted. Makes sense. Well, thank you, guys. If y' all like what y' all heard, make sure you guys follow me on the gram. Nyla Simone. N Y L A S Y M O N E E E All right,

[DJ Envy]

now when we come back, we throw it back on a Friday. Let's get to the mix. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Jess. Hilarious.

[Swae Lee]

What's up?

[DJ Envy]

It is Charlamagne. Tha guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We gotta salute to Swae Lee for joining Us. His new album, Same Difference is out right now. Definitely check it out. And also, John Holt Bryant, he has a new book, Capitalism for All Inclusive Economics and the Future Proofing of America. Definitely pick up that book if you're out and about today. All right, now, this weekend, Saturday, I'm gonna be at the Barclays Center. Salute to Rick Michaels. It's the April Fool's Day Comedy Jam.

[Angela Yee]

Oh, my God. I wanted to come to that.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, it's this Saturday. Yeah, if you wanna come, come on.

[Angela Yee]

But it's Easter weekend. You know, I'm supposed to be with the family.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, so bring your man Saturday and then spend Easter with grandma and moms.

[Angela Yee]

They don't play nv. They want my grandma and my mom went the whole weekend.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, well, I, I, I'm gonna try, though.

[Angela Yee]

I'm gonna let you know.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, but so on the lineup, you have Tommy Davidson, Marlon Wayans, Eddie Griffin, Michael Blackson, Little Duvall. You have Pretty V. You have Emmanuel Hudson, Justina Valentine, Brandon T. Jackson, of course, I'm DJing the whole night. Fat Joe Jadakiss and Kodak Black Art Performance. So it's comedy and music. It's gonna be a great time. So if you haven't get your tickets. Tickets start off at $30. Get your tickets and I'll see you this Saturday. All right, now, you're doing something special today, right?

[Angela Yee]

Yes. So I'm celebrating one year of my podcast. The latest with Lauren Larose had turned one on March 31, actually. So we're a little late, but we've been busy. Over 9 million downloads on the audio side. So we got a big low rider. That's my listeners, the low rider community. So today I want to give them a chance to be on the podcast. So if you are listening to this and you listen and love the latest with Lauren Larose, email me and say, I want to be on the podcast, Lauren. And give me your contact information. Email me at inforowngirlgrinding.com and say, I want to be on the podcast. And I have a producer give you a call so we can talk on the podcast today. I want to hear from y'. All.

[DJ Envy]

All right, well, now, do you have a positive note?

[Angela Yee]

I do have a positive Note. My mentor, Ms. Lori Hayes, always tells me, warning comes before destruction. That's a good one.

[DJ Envy]

Okay. Breakfast club.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wake you up.

[DJ Envy]

Wake that ass up.

[John Hope Bryant]

Program your alarm to power 105.1 on iHeartradio.

[Angela Yee]

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[Mimi Brown]

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[Angela Yee]

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[Angela Yee]

This is Angela Yee from Angela Yee's Lip Service. Every day Planned Parenthood health centers across the country open their doors and provide high quality expert health care. That's no simple task when lawmakers are trying to block access to life saving care like birth control, cancer screenings, STI testing, abortion and more. At Planned Parenthood, care continues because they believe your body is your business and being able to control your own body. That's the most basic freedom there is is so Planned Parenthood won't back down. Visit I'mforpp.org to learn more and get involved.

[Mimi Brown]

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[Angela Yee]

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[Mimi Brown]

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[Angela Yee]

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