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Janelle
This is an iHeart podcast.
DJ Envy
Wednesday at.
Charlamagne Tha God
10, 9 Central on BET. An all new episode of 106 in Sports from executive producers LeBron James and Maverick Carter. It's a new top five countdown with hosts Ashley Nicole Moss and Cam Newton. They're breaking down the top moments in sports, culture and entertainment and highlighting both established pros and the stars on the come up. Watch the all new series 106 in sports Wednesday at 10, 9 Central on BET or catch up the next day on BET.
Janelle
Everybody needs a break and that's why Diet Coke is the perfect reset. The crisp, refreshing taste turns any pause, whether it's after work, running errands or kicking back with your crew into you time. It's that signal to slow down, take a deep breath and enjoy the moment. However you choose to recharge, an ice cold Diet Coke makes that break even better. Make time for a Diet Coke break. Diet Coke. This is my taste.
Angela Yee
Hello, America's sweetheart. Johnny Knoxville here. I want to tell you about my new true crime podcast, Crimeless Hillbilly Heist. From Smartless media, Campside media and big money players.
DJ Envy
It's a wild tale about a gang.
Angela Yee
Of high functioning nitwits who somehow pulled off America's third largest cash heist.
DJ Envy
Kind of like Robin Hood, except for the part where he steals from the rich and gives to the poor. I'm not that generous. It's a damn near inspiring true story.
Angela Yee
For anyone out there who's ever shot for the moon, then just totally muffed up the landing.
DJ Envy
They stole $17 million and had not bought a ticket to help him escape.
Janelle
So we're sitting like, oh God, what do we do?
DJ Envy
What do we do? That was dumb. People do not follow my example.
Angela Yee
Listen to Crimeless Hillbilly Heist on the.
DJ Envy
Iheartradio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Mimi Brown
The murder of an 18 year old girl in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved for years until a local housewife, a journalist and a handful of girls came forward with a story.
Charlamagne Tha God
America, y' all better wake the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns.
Mimi Brown
Listen to Graves county on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and to binge the entire season ad free. Subscribe to Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcasts.
Angela Yee
Good morning usa.
DJ Envy
Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo.
Angela Yee
Yo, yo, yo, yo Yo. Jess. Hilarious.
Janelle
Wake that ass up.
Angela Yee
Charlamagne the God.
DJ Envy
Peace to the planet is Friday. How y' all feel out there? I feel blessed. Black and highly favored. Happy to be here another day to serve our beautiful listeners. Good morning.
Angela Yee
Yes, good morning. It's homecoming weekend Friday. Salute to all the HBCUs. I know. I think it's Howard's homecoming. It's my school's homecoming. Which is Hampton University. No, Norfolk State's homecoming. There's a lot of homecomings this weekend, so it's homecoming weekend, so salute to all the alum. Now, Charlamagne, you missed Jess. She came in mad mysterious this morning.
Janelle
Whatever, y'.
Mimi Brown
All.
Angela Yee
Mad mysterious. Trench coat.
DJ Envy
Yo, what she got on?
Angela Yee
Hat look like a Inspector Gadget.
Janelle
Hey, yo, you was really playing with me. I'm gonna send you a picture show. I look real good, but my husband deftly played with me. He was like, okay. Jeepers creepers.
DJ Envy
First of all, it was just that hat.
Janelle
It was just that hat. Yo, you on zoom. Can you see?
DJ Envy
The host hasn't let me in yet. Oh, all right.
Janelle
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I had on the hat and the coat is giving Inspector good to hold you. But when I take the coat off, it's like, damn.
Angela Yee
It is. It is.
DJ Envy
Yeah.
Janelle
There's no further inspection. Like, it's good.
Angela Yee
So where you going today? I know you ain't dressed up to see us. I know.
Janelle
I got a few meetings.
Angela Yee
She said, yeah, no, I ain't messing up. I got a few meetings. I ain't messing up.
Janelle
And I gotta be in Philly today.
Lanny Smith
So.
Janelle
Yeah, I got a event that I'm doing tonight, so.
DJ Envy
Okay.
Janelle
Yes.
Angela Yee
All right. Well, we got a crazy show for you today. Reuben Vincent and 9th Wonder will be joining us. They have a new album called welcome Home, so we're gonna be talking.
DJ Envy
Yeah, that came out. That's right. Ruben is very, very dope. He's from Charlotte, North Carolina. He's. I think he's from Kenya originally when he was raised in Charlotte, North Carolina, man. And so, you know, whenever Knife Wonder puts his arm around somebody from North Carolina, you know it's gonna be special. I mean, you know, Rhapsody, little brother. And, you know, now the likes of Reuben Vincent.
Angela Yee
That's right. And also, we have a great legendary cast, legendary bloodline. We have Lanny Smith, who is the owner of Actively Black Apparel.
DJ Envy
But you got. You got to tell them what Actively Black just did. Actively Black just had a fashion show during New York Fashion Week. And they had a bunch of. A bunch of these legendary figures walk in their clothing. That's right.
Angela Yee
They had Martin Luther King, Jr. S daughter. They also had Malcolm X's daughter. They had Cecil Williams, who is Cecil Williams is if you remember that famous picture where there's a brother standing at a white at a water fountain and it says whites only and he's drinking that water.
Janelle
That was back in 1956.
Angela Yee
56, yes.
DJ Envy
Yeah. Orangeburg, South Carolina, icon right there.
Angela Yee
That's right. Frederica Newton will be joining us.
Janelle
Huey P. Newton's wife.
Angela Yee
Yes, Newton's wife.
Janelle
She also has a book.
Angela Yee
And Fred Hampton Jr. Will be joining us.
DJ Envy
Chairman Fred Hampton, Jr. Don't play with him.
Charlamagne Tha God
You're right.
Angela Yee
Chairman Fred Hampton Jr. Will be joining us as well. So there's a lot to talk about today, a lot to discuss, a lot going on. All right, Charlamagne. Now, you going to South Carolina after this too, right?
DJ Envy
Yes. I will be in South Carolina today, in Columbia, the metro, because today at 4:30pm I will be moderating a conversation with Dawn Staley. You know, her book Uncommon Favor came out earlier this year. It's been on the New York Times bestsellers list for weeks. So I'll be moderating a conversation with her about that. And WNBA mvp, four time mvp, three time champion Asia Wilson will be joining us during that conversation as well at the colonial life arena, 4:30pm today.
Janelle
Nice.
DJ Envy
So join us.
Angela Yee
Well, let's get the show cracking. We got front page news. Salute to OVO Eli. OVO Eli did not come to work today. He's feeling under the weather. I think he's lying.
Janelle
I think he's lying.
Angela Yee
Yes. Cause it's Drake's birthday.
Janelle
Yeah, but he was sick early in the earlier parts of the week.
Angela Yee
He's probably in Toronto right now at Drake's front door.
Janelle
Shut up.
Angela Yee
He already texted me with what he wanted to hear this morning.
DJ Envy
Yeah, he told me he had a rose with an owl on it. And I'm like, bro, what are you talking about? You're a grown ass man. They got roses for men, Yo.
Janelle
He's a Stan. Like, he loves Drake. Leave him alone. And he just so happens to be sick.
DJ Envy
He is sick.
Angela Yee
I don't. Yeah, he's sick at Drake's house right now. Well, let's play the record.
DJ Envy
He wanted to make even put a rose. And why does it have an owl on it? That's crazy.
Angela Yee
Well, this is what he wanted to hear.
Charlamagne Tha God
Best I ever had.
DJ Envy
Oh, okay. That rose changes life. Damn.
Angela Yee
Breakfast Club. Good morning. Mimi's up next. Front page news. Morning, everybody. It's DJ V. Jess. Hilarious Charlamagne, the guy. We are the breakfast club. Let's get in some front, people.
DJ Envy
All jokes aside, Drake came a long way, bro. When you think about that record right there and, you know, think about how he, he, he grew in, in the game, he did come a long way. You got to give him that.
Janelle
Absolutely.
DJ Envy
Yeah, Absolutely.
Angela Yee
There's no doubt in that. Just you.
DJ Envy
Yeah. Even though he got his ass, even though he got his ass busted last year, you know, by Kendrick.
Angela Yee
Just can't stay positive.
DJ Envy
Came a long way.
Angela Yee
All right, well, let's get in some front page news. Let's start off with Thursday Night Football. The Chargers beat the Vikings 37, 10. And tonight is game one World Series Blue Jays versus the Dodgers at 8:00pm on damn.
DJ Envy
See what I'm saying? That's exactly what I be talking about right there on Drake birthday.
Angela Yee
What's up, Mimi?
Mimi Brown
Good morning, MB Josh Charlamagne, How y' all doing?
Janelle
Hey, girl.
DJ Envy
Peace, Mimi.
Mimi Brown
Good morning.
Charlamagne Tha God
All right.
Mimi Brown
Well, we start this morning in Washington where today was supposed to be payday for federal workers. But with Congress still deadlock, those checks are not coming. Meanwhile, frustration is mounting as the pay fight hits another roadblock on Capitol Hill and the Senate. They blocked three different bills yesterday, one from Republicans and two from Democrats, all aimed at making sure federal employees get paid while the shutdown drags on in its fourth week. Now, Republican Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, he pushed a bill to pay only essential workers still required to work so your air traffic controllers, your TSA agents, your military personnel. That bill failed 54 to 45. Democrats, they blocked that plan, saying it gave too much power to the White House budget office, letting them decide who gets paid and who doesn't. Instead, Democrats, they offered two separate bills that would pay all federal workers, including the 750,000 who have been furloughed and sent home without pay since October 1st. That bill was introduced by Maryland Senator Chris Van Hollen, and it included a provision to stop the layoffs during the shutdown. Then the second bill, from Michigan, Senator Gary Peters, would cover back pay from the start of the shutdown through the day. It would take effect, but Republicans blocked those bills. Still, some lawmakers say they're working to find a compromise. A few Democrats, including Senator John Offset offset Raphael Warnock and John Fetterman, they voted to advance the Republican bill, saying that essential workers needed to be paid even as negotiations continued. And while that debate continues over who gets paid and who doesn't get paid, Trump says he's found another way to make sure some workers get a paycheck.
Angela Yee
Let's listen to that friend of mine, talking about donors.
DJ Envy
A friend of mine, a man. That's great. I'm not going to use his name unless he lets me do it. He was. He called us the other day and he said, I'd like to contribute any shortfall you have because of the Democrat shutdown. I'd like to contribute personally contribute any shortfall you have with the military, because I love the military and I love the country. And today he sent us a check for $130 million, and that's going to go to the military. Yeah. So where's the money? Like, where's the money? I need my money now. You know, they ain't got paid in weeks. Where's the money?
Mimi Brown
Yeah, well, we'll see what happens with that. He just said that it was a personal donor. He did not say any names. There's been no word yet on if the military has received that, so we'll continue to follow that. But Today marks day 24 of the government shutdown. Neither side has been able to reach a deal. And as hundreds of thousands of workers wait for their next paycheck, President Trump is preparing to leave for Asia with no compromise in sight.
DJ Envy
So that's. That's a great headline to follow, though, Mimi, because he announced that somebody gave him a check, $130 million for the military. Let's follow it and see if he actually gives it to the military, because, you know, he'll say something and then become a headline, and everybody will say, well, you know, Trump got $130 million and gave it to the military. I bet you they never get that money.
Mimi Brown
We'll see. We'll see what happens with that. We will definitely continue to follow that. And President Trump says his next move in, or his next move in on the war on drugs could target people on land, not just at sea. So he's calling the recent US Military strikes on drugs smuggling votes a big success, saying that traffickers are now moving more drugs on land and no longer on sea. So he says that his team will brief Congress about the plan. He doesn't think that they will need permission to move forward on a formal declaration of war. So President Trump, he's, he's, he's promising a tougher approach on the drug trade. And let's listen to what he had to say.
DJ Envy
Well, I don't think we're going to necessarily ask for a declaration of war. I think we're just going to kill people that are bringing drugs into our country. Okay. We're gonna kill them. You know, they're gonna be, like, dead.
Angela Yee
But you know what they were saying, Mimi? And I don't know how true this is because, you know, people are conspiracy theorists and all that other stuff. They were saying that a lot of the boats that he was actually hitting was fishermen boats that they weren't actually drug conspiracy.
DJ Envy
That's true, though.
Angela Yee
They said a bunch of them. It just wasn't one.
DJ Envy
I heard about two. I don't know about a bunch of.
Mimi Brown
I heard about a couple, too, but they're just saying. And then there were two survivors. And so they were sent to what I think it was Ecuador, Colombia. And, you know, so there's just. There's a lot of. There's a lot going on. There was a. One woman who said that her husband, who was a fisherman on his way to work, was killed. And so, you know, Defense Secretary Pete Hetseth, he's backing Trump up, saying that the military will go after drug cartels the same way that we went after terrorist groups like Al Qaeda. But not everyone is on board. Lawmakers on both parties say they haven't been given clear information on exactly what's happening. And leaders in Latin America are calling the US Strikes illegal and murder. Now, Trump also, he's taking aim at Colombia and Mexico, claiming that both countries are run by drug cartels, something their government strongly denies. And right now, it's really unclear whether these land strikes could happen and what they will look like. And so we'll see if Congress steps in before things escalate any further.
Angela Yee
All right, well, thank you, Mimi.
Mimi Brown
Absolutely. Coming up at 7. A familiar name from your childhood is making a surprise return just in time for the holidays. We'll tell you where it's popping up and how it could affect your wallet.
Angela Yee
Okay, everybody else, get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need the vent, phone lines are wide open. Call us up now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club.
Charlamagne Tha God
This is your time to get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club.
DJ Envy
Hello?
Angela Yee
Who's this?
Charlamagne Tha God
Good morning.
Janelle
My name is Janelle.
Angela Yee
Hey, Janelle. Good morning.
DJ Envy
Peace, Janelle. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning.
Janelle
How y' all doing this morning? Feeling good.
DJ Envy
Bless. Black and Holly Fair.
Janelle
I was just giving a shout out to. I'm from Virginia for this morning. This weekend, we're celebrating homecoming for ODU. My daughter graduated 2022 from ODU and also NSU in Hampton University.
Angela Yee
It's gonna be A crazy week. And all three schools are less than, what, 30 minutes away from each other. So it's gonna be. It's gonna be a lot of fun. I'll be out there. My wife actually graduated from Old Dominion, so that's her alma mater. But, yeah, it's gonna be a lot of fun.
Janelle
Yes, yes, yes, yes. And also, I've been trying to recall, too, back in July, my book released. Tilly Starshine is a children's book dedicated to children that's going through Greece. But the book was dedicated to my grandmother who passed away two years ago. And that's why I told her the children's book, so Greece, and definitely broke it up. It's on Amazon.
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay, nice.
Angela Yee
And what's the name of the book again?
Janelle
Tilly Sometimes. And like I said, was dedicated to. My grandma's name was Matilda, but we called her Tilly with her nickname.
Angela Yee
All right, well, thank you so much.
Janelle
Thank you all. You have a wonderful morning, and thank you all.
Angela Yee
You have a great home.
Charlamagne Tha God
All right.
Janelle
You all, too. Thank you.
Angela Yee
Hello. Who's this?
DJ Envy
Envy.
Janelle
What's up, Emmy?
DJ Envy
What's up, Travis? Bloody boots. Wow. You know, I'm so glad that you started off like that, Charlemagne. I'm tired of defending your sexuality.
Janelle
If you gay, just come out deposit.
DJ Envy
Why do you defend my sexuality? I don't, because I'm taxes that every time I talk about something, I'm telling my cousins, like, oh, you know, I'm waiting on Shar for us to do something. And they say the only reason that you're even trying to help me is because you want my butt. I'm trying to get some cheese. That's the truth. That's crazy.
Angela Yee
That is the truth.
DJ Envy
That's the old school industry way. Don't nobody do that no more. That's what they think. They'd be like, oh, if you. He need to come out the closet, and he just trying to get something from you. I'm like, charlemagne ain't trying to get nothing from me. But if you hear Charlamagne, just let me know.
Angela Yee
Yeah.
DJ Envy
He said. He said he's a willing participant. Damn. No, I'm not a willing participant. But now they actually. My mom actually was saying that, you know, I told her that, you know, we had some things going on. She was asking me about it, and I told her, I don't know what's happening. Well, listen, why you lie to your mama like that? No, no, no.
Angela Yee
Not.
DJ Envy
Not things going on like that.
Angela Yee
I do got some things going on. What are you gonna bring Them home. Are you bringing them home for Thanksgiving?
DJ Envy
I'm talking about with music.
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh.
DJ Envy
Oh, okay. I'm like, wait, what else you talking about, man? Get your mind out there, Gutter this whole conversation. Let me tell you something about. Trav is an amazing story songwriter. And, you know, whenever I get the opportunity, I do pass Trav stuff along to people. Yes, he does. And.
Charlamagne Tha God
And then.
DJ Envy
Then you kind of disappear on me. I don't know what happens afterwards. That's the game. Envy will tell you, you know, these people will take your stuff, but that, you know, sometimes they be like, oh, that's dope. And then that's all you hear.
Angela Yee
You know what the funny thing is? That's why I stopped doing that, because people, like, they'd be like, yo, did so and so hit my record. I'm like, I passed it on. I don't. I don't know what else you want me to do.
DJ Envy
That's all I could do.
Angela Yee
That's all I could do.
DJ Envy
I pass it on.
Angela Yee
That's it.
DJ Envy
That's all I could do.
Charlamagne Tha God
And I said, and I definitely, truly appreciate that.
DJ Envy
I definitely, truly appreciate it. Don't worry, Trav. Good things come to those who wait, man. Be patient. I believe. I believe in what you do. But do you believe in yourself? Yes, I do. And I actually just put out another record. You have to go check it out. I actually wrote it about my ex.
Charlamagne Tha God
And how he cheated on me with.
DJ Envy
A girl and got her pregnant, and.
Charlamagne Tha God
I wrote a song about it. Damn.
DJ Envy
The crazy thing about Trav, man, if this was the 90s or early 2000s, he'd be on already because he's talented and gay.
Janelle
That's really sad, man. I'm sorry that that happened.
Angela Yee
Sorry. Oh, you talking about the cheating part?
Janelle
Yeah, like, yeah. Hey, yo, no, I'm sorry that your.
Angela Yee
Ex did that to you.
Janelle
Hey, yo.
DJ Envy
Yeah, it's called Congrats. Go check it out. Okay.
Charlamagne Tha God
Does the baby look like.
Angela Yee
Never mind. All right.
Janelle
Oh, my God.
Angela Yee
Get it off your chest. 5851051. If you need to vent, call us up. Is the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Charlamagne Tha God
The Breakfast Club.
Lanny Smith
Ray.
Angela Yee
Ray.
DJ Envy
Ray. Yo, Charlamagne, Envy, what up?
Janelle
Are we live?
Charlamagne Tha God
This is your time to get it off your chest.
Janelle
I got an indoor pool, a outdoor pool.
Charlamagne Tha God
We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club.
Angela Yee
We can get on the phone right now.
DJ Envy
He'll tell you what it is.
Janelle
We live.
Angela Yee
Hello?
Charlamagne Tha God
Who's this?
DJ Envy
Hey, this your bro Muhammad from Baton Rouge.
Angela Yee
What's up, brother? Get it off your chest.
DJ Envy
Hey, man, I just want to let everybody know with all the fear mongering going on about this food and being able to afford food for your houses, the most honorable Elijah Muhammad and Honorable Ms. Lewis Farrakhan told us, beans and rice every day. It's a very cheap meal, but guess what? It's a very healthy meal, especially that Navy beans. So if you got to go buy food for your family, you might not be able to buy meat, but focus on the basics. The beans, the rice, and the water and everything will be okay. You're absolutely right, bro.
Angela Yee
Thank you, brother. Thank you. Hello? Who's this?
Janelle
Good morning.
DJ Envy
This is K. Hey, K. Hey, K. Every kiss begins with K. I know.
Janelle
That's right. Hey, DJ Envy Charlemagne. And where's my girl Jess? Right here. What's up, baby? Hey, Jess. I love you so much, girl. You coming on my last two to, like two or three weeks ago, girl, you made my day. Oh, I appreciate you.
Angela Yee
She's very mysterious today. Very mysterious today.
Janelle
Shut up. They always got something to say about my outfit because I came in here with a nice. What is it called? A fedora.
Angela Yee
Fedora.
Janelle
Yep, a fedora. And like an Inspector Gadget coupe. Okay, then.
Angela Yee
What'S up? Kay.
Janelle
But, yeah, I didn't want to just. I ain't got really nothing off my chest. I just want to spread a little positivity today, you know what I'm saying? Like, I went through stuff yesterday. My sewing machine broke. I'm actually pulling up to work late with a spicy mask on. But I woke up, so you know what I'm saying? I really don't even care, So I just want to motivate everybody else today. Stay optimistic, you know what I'm saying? You might be going through something, but as long as you show up.
DJ Envy
Hey, don't you walk in them white people establishment with that damn shiesty mask on.
Janelle
Oh. Oh, it's pink and I got some lashes on, so that'd be all right.
DJ Envy
Oh, okay.
Janelle
Looking like a yb.
Angela Yee
Okay, well, have a good one, mama.
Janelle
You too.
Angela Yee
Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up now. What's up?
Janelle
Good morning.
Angela Yee
What kind of outfit is that?
Janelle
Alexander Wayne.
DJ Envy
Hold on, let me get my zoom on.
Janelle
It's a squirrel sweatsuit. Get up on.
DJ Envy
I can't even see her. They. They don't even got the camera on her on purpose. What? They trying to keep me from seeing this.
Janelle
It's a. I worked before. I worked on brilliant idiots.
DJ Envy
Oh, okay. I seen that. Got your head.
Janelle
Did homecoming. Yeah, we going to homecoming. Going to north folk tonight. Today.
DJ Envy
Yesterday, Lauren was like, man, I want to grow out an Afro, but I got a bald spot and I ain't got no edges. That was. So.
Janelle
Why would you repeat that like that?
DJ Envy
Why would you say that around me?
Janelle
What I said was, you say that around me. I. I want to when my hair grows back out. That's why I cut it, so it could grow. I want to be able to wear it, like, curly and not put heat to it.
DJ Envy
Heat. I ain't got no edges and I got a bald spot.
Angela Yee
And then you say that.
Janelle
I said the wigs made my edges thin, so I had to cut them down. So I need everything to grow back healthy. I say I don't got no edges. They're here.
DJ Envy
Can I ask you a real question? You had a bald spot?
Janelle
No. You told me why you asked me how I get a ball spot. I told you I almost died.
Angela Yee
Can. Can I ask you real quick?
Janelle
I was so sad how you almost died from a ball spot.
DJ Envy
Real quick.
Janelle
I bust my head open on the back of my head.
DJ Envy
Oh, my God.
Janelle
Almost died at 9. I'm so sorry, all.
Angela Yee
Can I ask you a question?
Janelle
Oh, God, yes.
Angela Yee
Your struggles and your stripes. Why do you tell him?
DJ Envy
You know what?
Angela Yee
Honestly, why do you tell him your struggle? Cuz you should have tell him that. You could have told just that you could have said it to me.
Janelle
But you tell him that it's not safe with any of y'. All. All y' all funny. So I just throw it up behind y'. All. Don't make fun of your father, cuz I know you really love him and you want a relationship with him and.
Angela Yee
He don't even want you.
Janelle
And I don't make fun of that.
Angela Yee
You see that? Why you doing that in there?
Janelle
Good morning.
Angela Yee
People coming in with their dads at homecoming.
DJ Envy
Grandma.
Angela Yee
Grandma. We have the latest with Lauren coming up.
Janelle
We do got the latest with Lauren coming up. We got more details on, you know, all those arrests that went down, that big NBA. You know, the fed sweeping in on that alleged gambling. All of the allegations with, you know, all the guys. Shaunti Billups, Terry Rogera, Damon Jones. We gonna talk about it.
Angela Yee
All right. We'll get into that next old move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Charlamagne Tha God
The Breakfast Club.
Janelle
Lauren becoming a straight fat.
Angela Yee
She gets them from somebody that knows somebody.
DJ Envy
She gets the details.
Janelle
I'm the homegirl that know a little bit about everything.
DJ Envy
She be having the latest on.
Charlamagne Tha God
The Latest with Lauren LaRosa.
DJ Envy
Sometimes you have facts, sometimes you have details, sometimes you have a little bit of everything on the Breakfast Club. Talk to me.
Janelle
So yesterday there was a press conference held here in New York City where the feds were able to break down FBI Director Cash Patel, along with the United States Attorney, broke down what this whole, you know, big arrest around some huge names in NBA, what it is and why it's happening. And when I mention the names, I'm mentioning Chauncey Billups, Terry Roger and Damon Jones. Let's take a listen to Cash Patel on the background of this case and what's actually happening.
Angela Yee
Individuals such as Chauncey Billups, Damon Jones and Terry Rozier were taken into custody today. This is an illegal gambling operation and sports rigging operation that spanned the course of years. The FBI led a coordinated takedown across 11 states to arrest over 30 individuals today responsible for this case, which is very much ongoing. We also entered and executed a system of justice against La Casa Nostra to include the Bonanno, Gambino, Genovese and Luchesi crime families. Charges and the arrests that were taken.
DJ Envy
Down across this country range from wire.
Angela Yee
Fraud, money laundering, extortion, robbery, illegal gambling. This work is also representative of a colossal portion of the FBI's mandate to keep America safe and to keep our entertainment industry fair and secure. We're talking about tens of millions of dollars in fraud and theft and robbery across a multi year investigation.
Janelle
So what they're alleging is that the names that we just mentioned allegedly teamed up with a bunch of other individuals and different mafia families in two separate things that they're indicting for. So there is the sports betting side of it, which has six defendants. And then there's the illegal gambling or the rig poker game side of it which has 31 defendants. Now they cross over because they're alleging that Damon Jones, Eric Ernest, Shane Hennin overlapped in charges somewhere within these two indictments that they have. And what they're saying is that there would be these, on the poker game side, there would be these illegal games they allege that would be set up. And you would have these big names from the NBA and they would be used as almost like something flashy to get these people to come in and want to sit down and play poker. And when the people would sit down, the games would be super rigged. I mean like high tech technology type of rig. And we have, you know, audio about them talking about the technology and how in depth that technology was at those poker tables. Let's Take a listen to number two.
DJ Envy
The defendants used a variety of very sophisticated cheating technologies, some of which were provided by other defendants in exchange for a share of the profits from the scheme. For example, they used off the shelf shuffling machines that had been secretly altered in order to read the cards in the deck, predict which player at the table had the best poker hand and relay that information to an off site operator. The off site operator sent the information via cell phone back to a co conspirator at the table. And that person at the table was known as the quarterback. The quarterback then signaled secretly the information he had received from others to others at the table. And together they used that information in order to win their games and to cheat the victims.
Angela Yee
That's crazy. Yeah, I guess what I was reading, allegedly it was saying that Chauncey Billups was using his influence to bring people to play some of these games. And they said through the cards they had some sunglasses that you could actually see what the. What they had. So it's like if you had a king. King. You could see through the sunglasses that that person had a king.
DJ Envy
King. X ray glasses. X ray glasses to see the card.
Angela Yee
Yeah, it was like a. I guess how they did it. It was what, Whatever. If you had a king on the back of the card, you could only see it through the glasses.
Janelle
Yeah, they can read it and even the shuffler. So we have that breakdown too. Let's listen to number three. No, it was. It's extensive. Let's take a listen.
DJ Envy
These defendants perpetrated a screen a scheme to defraud by betting on inside non public information about NBA athletes and teams. The non public information included when. When specific players would be sitting out future games or when they would pull themselves out early for purported injuries or illnesses. They relied on corrupt individuals, including Jones and Rosier. They also misused information obtained through long standing friendships that they had with NBA players and coaches. And in at least one instance they got their information by threatening a current player, Porter, because of his pre existing gambling day. Defendants use this non public information to place hundreds of thousands of dollars in fraudulent bets, mostly in the form of prop bets on individual player performance. So this is two different cases because I hear the mafia involved in one of them and then the other one sounds like it's just NBA players. Like that one we just heard sound like it's just NBA players.
Janelle
Yeah, so it's two different cases. So that's what I'm saying at the beginning. So you have the sports betting side of it, which is where they're alleging that, you know, certain people would use inside information that wouldn't be public information to help people go and bet and win the money. So for example, according to docs, they list co conspirator number eight and that is Billups. They say that one time he mentioned to a better that they were. He. They alleged that he was going to rest some of his key players in the matchup against the Chicago Bulls. The better that they say then allegedly took the information to another better and had them place a wager on the Blazers losing. And Portland did go on to lose to Chicago in that game. And they say, although the fest didn't say in the press conference that Billups was involved in inside sports betting conspiracies that resulted in certain wins. Basically like they can't connect the two together. So Roger and the things that he was doing on the sports betting side and Billups, they're not connecting them, but they're saying that they were happening like both of them were alleging both of them were doing these things.
Angela Yee
But you said something that's, that's very important too. I don't think people remember but you know, a couple years ago you remember Porter was banned for, for doing that. But they're saying that the crime families allegedly threatened Porter to continue on.
Janelle
Yeah. So they, they threatened him.
Angela Yee
And Porter, you know, is Porter's brother from the New Jersey. He plays for the Brooklyn Nets now. It's his brother that was. Has been banned from the league for a while now.
Janelle
Right. Yeah. And they talk about, they talked about that for a little bit in a press conference too because they said that there were not even just with him, they said that with other people. Like some of the people that lost their money. They were, they used intimidation the, the, these families, intimidation and violence and different things to keep it concealed, but also to keep people playing because once you're in, they want you in and they want you to keep going because they're trying to win all this money.
DJ Envy
I didn't, I didn't know the MAF existed.
Angela Yee
Like I was thinking the same thing too.
DJ Envy
And, and is this a situation where they was after the mafia and the NBA players just happened to be there or were they all in cahoots together? I don't.
Mimi Brown
It.
Janelle
I don't know. I can't really determine that from what I saw. I feel like certain things I read make me feel like yes, they were after the Mafia and then the NBA players came in and other stuff I read is like this has been going on for a long time. Allegedly around the NBA. So there's always been eyes on this and then this came up. So I can't answer that indefinitely and.
DJ Envy
I ain't going front.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Ready because sports, culture and entertainment is colliding like never before. Wednesday at 10, 9 Central on BET is BET's all new series 106 in Sports. Hosted by NFL star Cam Newton and sports analyst Ashley Nicole Moss, 106 in Sports is where the biggest plays meet the biggest conversations. Each week, Cam and Ashley are counting.
DJ Envy
Down the top five moments everyone's talking about. From the most jaw dropping highlights on the field to the viral clips taken.
Charlamagne Tha God
Over the feed, to the culture shifts shaping fashion, entertainment and Black excellence, the.
DJ Envy
Top 5 countdown dives into all the.
Charlamagne Tha God
Game winning touchdowns, buzzer beaters, red carpet fits and headlines, making stories that define our culture.
DJ Envy
With Cam bringing an athlete's perspective and Ashley bringing an analyst's edge, they're breaking down every angle. The wins, the controversies and the unforgettable.
Charlamagne Tha God
Moments that keep us talking. Whether it's a wild play that broke the Internet or a championship celebration for the ages or the latest trends shaking up culture. If it's big, it's on 106 in sports.
DJ Envy
Whether it's stars like LeBron, Steph Giannis.
Charlamagne Tha God
And Durant making waves on and off the court, you know it's making the countdown. So tune in and join the conversation because it's where sports meets style, competition meets culture, and every moment matters. Don't miss the all new series on Wednesdays at 109 Central on BET's 106 and Sports. If you want to relive the countdown or catch what you missed, stream the next day on BET.
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Janelle
In the new podcast Hell in Heaven Two young Americans move to the Costa Rican jungle to start over. But one will end up dead, the other tried for murder not once. People went wild, not twice, stunned, but three times. John and Anne Bender are rich and attractive and they're devoted to each other. They create a nature reserve and build a spectacular circular home high on the top of a hill. But little by little, their dream dream starts to crumble and our couple retreat from reality.
Angela Yee
They lose it. They actually lose it.
Janelle
They sort of went nuts until one night everything spins out of control. Listen to Helen Heaven on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Angela Yee
Sometimes you have a black jacket and all of a sudden I feel like they push a button. And now all of a sudden they got a blackjack too.
DJ Envy
No, no, no. I'm gonna tell you something, but I want those glasses, okay? Because I got a homegirl named Dion and she be busting my ass in spades and I'm sick of it. Okay? Salute to Dion. She's one of the best spades players I've ever seen and those glasses are what I need to finally get get over on her ass.
Charlamagne Tha God
Damn.
Janelle
Okay, well listen, yeah, I know something. Cause you don't wear glasses regularly. So the next time you play. She gonna be like, nah, take them glasses on.
DJ Envy
Why you looking dumb? Got them glasses. That's crazy. We got to think about that. Whenever you play an Uno or spades from here on out. That's right. Somebody wearing some glasses that don't normally wear glasses, make them take them goddamn glasses.
Janelle
Uno on space, get deep. Especially that plan. We play uno on my house like we at the casino. No crazy.
DJ Envy
Remember that this homecoming weekend, if y' all at homecoming and all of a sudden somebody got on some glasses that ain't never had on no glasses, okay? And they went. All of a sudden, they got a super hot head on winning. Something ain't right.
Angela Yee
All right, well, that is the latest with Laura. Now, Charlemagne, donkey today.
Charlamagne Tha God
What we doing?
DJ Envy
Yes, on Fridays, we do the people's donkey. You can call us right now, 1-800-585-1051, and give somebody the credit they deserve for being stupid. So hit us up.
Angela Yee
All right, if you want to give somebody donkey today, like he said, 800-585-1051. Get on them phone lines now. Front page news is next. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlamagne, the guy we are the Breakfast Club. Let's get back to some front page news. So quick, sports and Thursday Night football. The Chargers beat the Vikings 37 10. And tonight is game one of the of the Major League Baseball World Series. The Dodgers versus the Blue Jays.
DJ Envy
Man, what game is Kendrick walking out to perform? Not like us, man. That's what inquiring minds want to know.
Angela Yee
It might be game one. That's what you would think, right?
DJ Envy
Game one is game one in la.
Angela Yee
Oh, Toronto tonight. Oh, yeah, it's Toronto night, so probably game three. What's up, Mimi?
Mimi Brown
Good morning, M.V. jess. Charlamagne. How y' all doing?
Janelle
Hey, girl.
DJ Envy
Please, Mimi, Good morning.
Mimi Brown
Well, we start this hour with talk that is raising eyebrows and a few constitutional questions. This morning, former Trump advisor Steve Bannon says the president's inner circle is already planning for a third term in the White House. Now, Bannon made the claim during an interview with the Economist this week, saying he's certain that Trump will be president in 2028. Listen to some of that exchange.
DJ Envy
He's going to get a third term. So Trump, 28. Trump is going to be president at 28, and people just ought to get accommodated with that. So what about the 22nd Amendment? There's many different alternatives. At the appropriate time, we'll lay out what the plan is. But there's a plan, and the country needs him.
Janelle
To be President of the United States.
DJ Envy
We have to finish what we started. Trump is a vehicle of divine providence. He's an instrument. He's very imperfect. He's not churchy, not particularly religious, but he's an instrument of divine will. And you can tell this of how we've. How he's pulled this off. We need him for at least one more term. Right? And he'll get that in 28. I hate that this conversation has been normalized. I mean, every time they have this conversation, I'm just like, so just nobody cares about democracy anymore. And for everybody who says things like, well, that means Barack Obama can. One can run. I keep trying to tell y', all, if Trump gets to run again for a third term, it doesn't matter who he's running against. The fight is already fixed. Okay?
Mimi Brown
Definitely already fixed. Constitutional experts say there's no real path for this to happen. They say changing the Constitution would take two thirds of a vote in Congress or approval from two thirds of US States, something that they say that is nearly impossible. And another theory that's been floated, having the vice president in 2028 step down so that Trump could take over. But that's also seen as legally shaky. You know, two terms, like you said Charlamagne should mean two terms, but anything else would be unconstitutional and could spark a major political crisis. But we are in several major political crises right now, so who knows what the end will look like?
DJ Envy
What if he just refuses to leave in 2028? You know, if he just refuses to leave, and then we find out how many of those generals and admirals actually did pledge their loyalty to him when they had that meeting with Pete Hexef a couple of weeks ago.
Mimi Brown
Yeah, for sure. There's so many different possibilities. So, again, you're right. It's being normalized. But I think that Trump, when he says he's going to do something, people should really pay attention. We tend to laugh it off like, oh, that's impossible, but is it? You know? So we'll continue to see what that looks like.
DJ Envy
All right.
Mimi Brown
Well, Target is cutting jobs in what is being called the biggest shake up the company has ever seen in a decade. Now, the retailer announced its plans to eliminate 1800 corporate positions as it tries to jumpstart growth after four years of sluggish sales. The cuts will include about 1000 layoffs and another 800 jobs that will not be filled, and that's roughly 8% of its reduction in workforce. Now, affected employees will be notified next week, and the layoffs come as Target faces mounting challenges from declining store traffic and inventory issues to a drop in stock value now, shares have fallen about 65% since 2021. While competitors like Walmart, they have surged ahead. And beyond pressures of business, Target has also faced public boycotts. We know that one led by Pastor Jamal Bryant. A 40 day fast which happened earlier this year after the company scaled back diversity, equity and inclusion programs. Now, Target says that the job cuts, though they will not affect store employees or workers in its warehouse. The layoffs are only limited to corporate positions. They say those that will be losing their jobs, though, will receive pay and benefits through January 3, along with severance packages. So a lot of shakeups happening there.
Janelle
That's crazy.
Mimi Brown
But while one retailer is cutting back, another one is making a comeback. Toys R Us is reopening more than 30 stores across the country.
Janelle
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Mimi Brown
Just in time for the holidays. This will include eight permanent flagship locations and more than 20 temporary holiday locations. It's the latest revival for the once dominant toy retailer, which filed for bankruptcy back in 2017. They closed more than 700 stores nationwide back there back then. But the brand has been slowly rebuilding under a new ownership. Now, at its peak back in the 80s and 90s, Toys R Us was the destination for kids and parents. Do you guys remember this? Famous for its giant stores aisles of tours.
Janelle
Yes. Girl, I was so sad when that store went out of business. I was so sad. My son was three years old.
Mimi Brown
Yeah.
Janelle
Now I got a one year old. So now I got a reason to go back. I'm so happy about it.
Mimi Brown
Absolutely. And what's that famous jingle? Do y' all remember it? I don't wanna grow up.
DJ Envy
I don't wanna grow up. I'm a Toys R Us kid.
Mimi Brown
Absolutely.
Janelle
Yeah.
Mimi Brown
So the company is trying to bring back all that nostalgia for kids these days. And so. So not only is it nostalgia, they said that the company will bring back the stores opening, will bring seasonal jobs and more full time positions.
DJ Envy
So I don't know how that's going to work. I mean, they would almost have to make themselves like a destination event space. Like it would have to be things for the kids to do inside the store. I don't know if just walking in the store and walking down the aisles will excite kids anymore. I don't know.
Angela Yee
You don't think so? That's what I was thinking. I was like, kids always want something to do. It's to the point now where kids be like, take me to Target. Because that's where they have Toys. But now, like you said, they need places for kids to go where kids can say, I want this. I see the new toy. I want a Nerf thing. I want video games. I want artists.
DJ Envy
Gotta be like a playpen in there. It's gotta be something for them to do. Like when you take them to like the American Dream Mall. It's stuff for kids to do.
Janelle
Yeah.
DJ Envy
That's what Toys R Us needs.
Angela Yee
But it's a Toys R Us in American Dream, all though.
Janelle
It is.
DJ Envy
Oh, it is.
Janelle
Yeah. Okay.
DJ Envy
Yeah, I didn't know that.
Mimi Brown
Yeah. So I think you're right. I think both of you're right. I know when I take my son to the store, being able to walk down the aisle and try everything out because now you just order something from Amazon and it's there, but now you can you get to play with each little thing. Yeah, I think they'll like that too, you know, so. All right, y'. All. Well, that is your front page news. I want to say. Oh, yeah, really quickly shout out to Howard University, I'm a proud bison. So sorry.
Janelle
Not sorry.
Mimi Brown
Yes, sorry. I will not be there. I will be at my TED Talk, by the way, which is the website is tedxalcedina.com you can find all the information there on how to stream it. If you want to take a look this weekend, what time, what day and time it is. Sunday at 10am is when it starts. I know TED has really strict rules, so I don't know if they're going to be able to live stream all of it. But some of the information will be on the website and be able to see what's available.
Angela Yee
Okay, thank you, Mimi.
DJ Envy
Have a great weekend.
Janelle
Thank you.
Mimi Brown
Absolutely. So that is your front page news. I'm Mimi Brown. Follow me, Mimi Brown tv. For more stories, follow the Black Information Network, Download the free iHeartRadio app or visit binnews.com all right, thanks, girl.
Angela Yee
Now, when we come back, Reuben Vincent and 9th Wonder will be joining us.
DJ Envy
Hold on, hold on, Envy. One more thing. Today is Friday, so we do the people's donkey. So you can call us right now, 1-800-585-1051 and give somebody the credit they deserve for being stupid. You get to deliver the biggest Hee Haw today. So call us right now.
Angela Yee
That's right. And when we come back, REUBEN Vincent the 9th Wonder will be joining us. His new album, welcome Home is out now. Now it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious Charlemagne, the Guy, we are the Breakfast Club. We got some special guests in the building.
DJ Envy
Yes indeed.
Angela Yee
We got the brother, ninth Wonder, he's back. And Reuben Vincent back. What's up, guys? How y' all feeling, man?
DJ Envy
How's everything?
Charlamagne Tha God
All is well, man.
DJ Envy
I love seeing this because I always feel like the young, younger lyricists need to get with the OG veteran producers, like somebody like Knife and create magic.
Charlamagne Tha God
Absolutely.
DJ Envy
I don't think that there's. And I could be wrong, but I don't think that there's anybody that can, you know, do for Reuben what a Knife could sound wise. What you think, Ruby?
Charlamagne Tha God
I agree. Just being real. I mean, I don't think it's been done on this level, you know what I mean? I feel like, you know, there's been few folks that might have did records, but it's either sending the beats off and then they over there. Like we really sat in the studio with each other, you know what I mean? It was. I moved in the studio for six months, sleeping on the couch. So it was like, you know, he going to his crib, but I wake up, go to the gym, he pull up at 12 o' clock. And we just really. The synergy was there, you know what I mean? So I think this is the first of his kind for sure.
Angela Yee
When do you have the time? Because you're also a professor, like, when do you have the time? I've seen Knights so many times and it really never has to do with music. It's always, I'm at a school speaking or something like that.
DJ Envy
Or basketball.
Angela Yee
Or basketball.
DJ Envy
One of the two.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, yeah.
Angela Yee
When do you have the time, brother?
DJ Envy
Man, that's the beauty about living in North Carolina, dog. Like there's no rat race to run, really. And so I kind of, you know, I teach twice a week. I teach at Duke on Wednesdays and Wake Forest University on Thursdays and. But outside of that, the rest of the week is either comprised of doing stuff with basketball or just making music. And so that's how I deal with it. But I think the biggest thing between me and him is what. Teaching has helped me do that too. Teaching has helped me understand the next generation way more than anybody else. Most people only deal with like 17, 18, well, 18, 19, 20 year olds. That's like family members, blah, blah, blah. And they use those people to like put a blanket on how every 18 year old acts. Me, I've been looking at 18 year olds and 22 year olds since what, 19 years now. This is my 19 year teaching. So an 18 year old in 2006 and an 18 year old in 2016 and an 18 year old in 2025. Them three different 18 year olds, of course. So I kind of look at it that way. But the thing about me and him is a lot of people don't think that this. These two generations can't communicate. Well, facts. And. And that's kind of. We debunked that with this. I mean, even when I first met him, that's how it's been. But we kind of, you know, getting waited as far as time. Yeah, man, I just. I'm just real focused. Charlamagne know, I'm just real focused on what I do, what I need to do. I like serving the culture all the time. And yeah, man, if I'm not helping the culture, then I'm taking away from it. I feel like with hip hop, though, you know, young men like Reuben are trying to do what y' all already did. So they gotta come to you for that sign. You can't say, man, I want to make an ill manning. I want to make something that sound like reasonable doubt. I want to make something that sound like, like the first little brother. I'm like, you gotta come to the people who did that then.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, man, I think it's each one teach one, you know what I mean? And, you know, they talk about, you know, the, the. They say it didn't exist, but the Willie lynch letter. But you know what I'm saying, it's real common to what really happens, you know what I'm saying? From breaking generations apart and separating us. But I had my father. We didn't live in the same house, but he always used to pick me up on weekends. So I know how to take a person's counsel, you know what I mean? And I also too, is like, I'm a sponge, you know what I mean? So it's like I'm willing to learn, you know what I mean? Where I feel like, you know, people might. Some people my age, they'll be turned off and try to like, you know, cool. But I think for me, it's just like, I want to know. And then also too, they were our age when they were making the illmatics. They were our age when they was making the reasonable doubts, you know what I mean? They make it seem like now me being 24 and me being like, having depth to my lyrics or wisdom is like, like, like, whoa. You know what I mean? Like, oh, you. You sound like an old. But it's like, yeah, exactly. So it's like yo, like, it's not uncommon. You know what I mean? And it's only right that, you know, you go tap in with the pioneers who've been there before, because they the only ones that can tell you, you know what I mean? You sitting and listening to somebody who ain't never done it don't make no sense to me.
Angela Yee
Is there a place for lyricists in this game to be at the top of the game?
DJ Envy
Right?
Angela Yee
And the reason I say that, as you mentioned, you mentioned Jay, you mentioned Nas. You know, you could talk Pac, you can talk Big. They were lyricists, but they were top. And people respected them as being the top. You can look at Outkast and even TI like, they were a top. But now it seems like that lyricist they put in a box.
DJ Envy
You know what? Outkast, man. We have to understand with outkast, it took a couple of albums for everybody to truly respect outkast.
Charlamagne Tha God
Correct.
DJ Envy
It wasn't from the South. I mean, Southern Playlistic. Okay, okay. You know what happened at Source Awards, then Atlns. It wasn't until they got to Equeminae and Stankonia that everybody was like, okay. You know what I mean? But even with Big and Jay, that's kind of where hip hop was taking a turn. You know, before that, hip hop wasn't as commercial everywhere, like, whatever. But when Big and Jay came, especially when Jay came along, dmx. And now we're looking at hip hop, more people that don't look like us is listening to hip hop way more than ever. You know what I mean? So. So that's kind of what that was. But I think it's. Man, I'm gonna say this, man, I just love. And I remember. I know we all do remember. When the culture was ours, we had our own validation points. If you were on Rap City, you're on tv. Raps, Arsenio Hall Show, Soul Train, in the back of the Jet Magazine. The albums, the singles, they showed your house in Ebony. If you were on those cover, the Source. The COVID the Source, Essence magazine, double xl. If you were in the hair salons, the barbershop, the music. If you went outside with your homies after church and played whatever, you was listening in the car. If you were in all those places one time, that's validation enough. You made it. You know what I mean?
Angela Yee
You made it.
DJ Envy
Yeah, and. And. And not trying to say, cause I'm here. This is one of the few last rites of passages for people. Y' all look like us, you know what I mean? And you Gotta come through here to be validated. We need more of that, you know what I'm saying? Like, so when we say mainstream, top of the game. This is a part of the top of the game right here to me.
Charlamagne Tha God
And I also feel like when you talk about lyricists.
DJ Envy
Thank you. Too nice.
Charlamagne Tha God
I also feel like when you talk about lyricists, you got to know how to make a song, you know what I mean? And I think that's the biggest thing with this album that people want to see from me. Like, we was just talking about it where it was like, what was the turning point for you? Where a lot of people, we did a listening on Friday, and everybody was like, yo, you really, like, showed your songwriting, you know, on here, and, like, you have choruses, and it's like, now you could tell you a lot of time it was just me in the studio, you know what I mean? By myself. So I feel like, like, a lot of the lyricists at this time is still proving they trying to rap on they records and they not giving nothing that people can relate to or people can feel. It's always, I'm just trying to show you I can do this crazy word play. Like, nah, I want to make records that you're going to play Monday through Friday, when you on the way to work, when you on the way to school, you getting ready, you know what I mean? Or even before the party, you know what I'm saying? Or at the party, you know what I mean? And I think this album, that was the example, and I feel like that's the only way a lyricist can really reach them heights is if they know how to make a record.
Angela Yee
And they gotta be taught, right? You watch Nas, and Nas will tell you, I don't know if it was tragedy, but taught him how to make a song, right? Like, this is the components to making song.
Charlamagne Tha God
I love Big.
Angela Yee
Big is probably my favorite artist ever. Him and Jay. But I don't know if Puff wasn't there, I don't know if Big knew how to make those type of songs.
DJ Envy
And how to break, it would have been that.
Angela Yee
It would have been partying bull. But Puff taught him, like, no, you need to make a song like this. You need a hook. You need this. And I feel like that's what's missing a lot of times in this game.
Charlamagne Tha God
Kobe Bryant needed to feel Jackson, and that's my field.
DJ Envy
Jackson, Snoop needed Dre.
Janelle
So what is the creative process like?
DJ Envy
You know what?
Janelle
Making this project.
DJ Envy
Making this project. Well, welcome home. Welcome home. I called Reuben in a Special place. Reuben came to me and said, man, you seen the lego movie? I said, I saw it one for real. It's like, yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
Pharrell one, yeah.
DJ Envy
He's like, man, I ain't know. Pharrell was close to Tribe like that, that he revered Tribe Called quest. I'm like, yeah. He said, that's who I am. I come from that. I'm not like, yeah. Like, I knew this whole time. I'm just letting him realize, like, you know, sometimes you have to step out the way and let, you know, figure it out on your own. But then while we're recording it, we're recording. We thought we was done. Reuben start falling for somebody. Okay, okay. All right. And so I'm coming in the studio. I'm coming in the studio. You always got to catch them where they are. I'm coming to the studio. He on the phone. He FaceTimed me on the phone.
Angela Yee
Oh, you love Jones cupcake.
DJ Envy
Cupcake at work. And I'm like, you know, but I have to catch him where he is. So now all my beats started to turn a certain way for him to talk about what he wanted to talk about, that he found somebody, and I thought that was amazing, which something we talked about. There's nothing wrong with talking about embracing black women on your project.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, young men. Young men don't do that a lot. And I think even the routine again, like, right before, like he said, he let me figure it out on my own. When I got my. When I first got my deal with rock and I was moving around, I was in la, and then, you know, I started to see how weird the industry can get. And then, you know, a lot of people was in my ear, like, you need to make this type of record, and this type of record that don't necessarily fit who I am. So when I watched the Lego movie, I was like, oh, this is my tree. I come from the tree of tribe. I come from the tree of Kanye west in his early stages. I come from that tree. Okay, let me navigate that and, you know, study and really figure it out. But then also, too, my mom and, like, living in Charlotte, you know, my mom, she's an African mother. You know, she's from Liberia. So she was always supportive of me. But the industry started to change. Money started to slow up at a little bit, and she's like, yo, you either got to go back to school or get a job. And I was like, I ain't doing none of that. You know what I mean? So I called Knife. We talked about it he was like, yo, just come down to Raleigh. Sleeping on the couch for six months. My routine was I wake up up, say my prayers, go to the gym. By the time I get back from the gym, I take a shower, because we have a shower at the studio, which is a blessing. Like, there's a lot of artists can't say they have a mentor who has a whole studio that you don't got to pay for studio time. So I'm gonna take all advantage, you know what I mean?
DJ Envy
You don't know if you don't have to pay for it yet. Might be an invoice.
Charlamagne Tha God
Nah. But then after that, you know, like, he'll probably get to the studio around 12 o' clock and we'll sit there, we'll discuss, talk about, you know, what movies remind us of home, what music videos that we. Our favorite rap music videos. Then we going through samples, you know what I mean? So the way the studio is set up, Knife got his beat room and then we got the recording room and then we got the living area where.
DJ Envy
I used to sleep at.
Charlamagne Tha God
But 9th will come in around 12 o'.
Janelle
Clock.
Charlamagne Tha God
We'll sit there, chop it up, maybe watch some basketball, watch some videos. He finds some samples, he make the beat. I'm sitting there, he gonna air. He's all right. I'll airdrop it to the big computer. I'm gonna run to the other room, accept it on the big computer record. Then he gonna be in there watching basketball. Thirty minutes later, I come back around, I think I got something, I got something.
Mimi Brown
Yeah.
Charlamagne Tha God
And then he'll come in there, hear it, and then do what he does as a producer and then.
DJ Envy
What made you want to work with him though, Ruben? I mean, Knife? Cause I'm sure are. It's a million artists that come to you, especially in North Carolina. Yo, nice. I want to get with you. I want to do something with you. Okay. So I was on tour in Germany and had the day off. And somebody on. I was doing an ask ninth on Twitter and somebody said to me, so I ain't got no question, it's this kid you need to listen to. I have no dog in this fight.
Charlamagne Tha God
I don't know this kid.
DJ Envy
I don't know this kid. And usually I, you know, I know how it goes. Some people want. They trying to get their family members on. You don't know this kid, that shit, man. But. But he did not know the dude was from Oakland.
Charlamagne Tha God
Oakland. I never had been to Oakland. I was 13 at the time.
DJ Envy
13. And he sent me the link. And I listened to it. I was like, man. And I think one of the rhymes, he said something about Cool G rap. And I'm like, hold on, bro. Like this. You're 13 years old. So then I shot him inboxes on Twitter and I said, yo, is this. He's like, yeah, how you doing, man? And I was like, hey, where's your parents? And so he put his mom on. And I was like, I'll be home in a couple of weeks. I got home, they showed up. Him and his mom showed up in my studio. I dapped him up. He's about this tall. And I said, man, you want something to eat? What'd you say?
Charlamagne Tha God
I just want some Pop Tarts, some strawberry milk and some pizza. 13 year old diet. 13 year old diet, Literally.
DJ Envy
But it kind of went from there. And the first song we did was a song called Extraterrestrial. And I looked at my president cat, my man Cash. I said, man, I said, man, he ain't breathing. He's just rapping. He's not breathing. And you did nine songs that weekend?
Charlamagne Tha God
Three days. Made a beat on a machine that I had never touched before that week.
Angela Yee
What got you in the Tribe? Was it that Lego movie?
Charlamagne Tha God
No, beforehand.
Angela Yee
So what put you on the Tribe? And Coogee Rap. In that era of music, I see.
DJ Envy
You playing fife in a biopic. I ain't never thought about it till y'.
Janelle
All.
Charlamagne Tha God
I would love to. I would love to. So my father, you know, again, both my parents are from West Africa, Liberia. And when he came to the States, he lived in New York for a little bit, and he moved to North Carolina and met my mom, who. My mom. So to give a little bit of background, the Queens.
Angela Yee
Jesus, you talking farmers.
Charlamagne Tha God
And I gotta ask. Yeah, I gotta ask him. Yeah, I probably gotta ask him. But he went from my. My dad experienced the Liberian Civil war in the 90s, so he was a refugee, came to America still very young. While my mom, she got here when she was 16 and lived in the DMV before moving to Charlotte. But her dad fought in the war, passed away in the war, all of that. But when he came down, a lot of. He said in Africa, they used to listen to a lot of Tupac and Biggie during the war. And so when he had. When they had me, granted, they had, like, separated when I was born, they. My dad always used to pick me up on the weekends, and he used to have a blue Cadillac, and he would drive me around playing, all eyes on me, ready to die. Blueprint, Get Rich or Die Trying.
DJ Envy
So I.
Charlamagne Tha God
That was the way me and my dad bonded when I was 4 years old. So then by the time I was able to write, I wrote my first rap when I was five years old, and so I already had a little bit of knowledge. And my dad gifted me late registration when I was six, seven years old. So when those little moments were like rabbit holes for me, because then by the time I was like 10, 11, YouTube was available. So now I'm looking up, okay, late registration. Okay.
DJ Envy
Blueprint.
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay. Reasonable Doubt. Okay. Then the recommended Nas Illmatic. Then it's like, oh, cool, G Rap. Then it's like, oh, Tribe Called Quest, Midnight Marauders. I just started going down a rabbit hole and just became like super, like, just like floored with everything, you know what I mean? So by the time I met Knife, I was already like, so knee deep into, like, what I liked. And then also, too, around the same time I was 11, 12 years old, Joey Badass started merging on the scene, you know what I mean? And you know what he was doing at the time. So, you know, I was just like, it was floored and I just started to do my deep dives.
DJ Envy
I wanted to ask you what artists. I'm glad you said joy, because what artists, I guess from your generation reminded you of.
Charlamagne Tha God
Of that, obviously? Joey, Kendrick Lamar, Cole Earl sweatshirt. In the early. In the early times, still to the. Still to this time, I was big on them, like, super early. You know what I mean? The Wale's like all of them like that. That era, the blog era was like, where, like, I really dived deep into, like, who they were. Those are like the ones who raised me outside of, like, the 90s.
DJ Envy
I want to see more people inspired by what Roberta Flack and Donnie had to with me. That's what I'm talking about, man. It's called the feeling, y'. All. It's called the Feeling. And that's where we try to do on this album, is create a feeling. It's like a lot of. A lot of music lacks that particular euphoric. The thing about d', Angelo, man, which a lot of us was raised in the church, that feeling is not in music now, and it doesn't mean it can't be there. Hip hop and the Feeling has got separated over time, which it used to be like this because in the 90s, hip hop has samples in them. That was the feeling, no matter what the subject matter was on the top. So I think this just has to, you know, they've got that feel good, man. Nothing wrong with that. And then it's also how do you keep people's legacies alive? Right? Because I swear since d' Angelo died, you can just be out and you'll hear somebody humming a d'. Angelo. I'm talking about humming. I'm not talking about just you hit on real. I've been around people and they just.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yo, last night I was at the Odell show and as soon as he.
DJ Envy
Got off, they played brown sugar shout outs to Odell.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah. Od. Yeah, for sure.
DJ Envy
Another one. But, but my thing is, where is that when these people are here? Like, how do you keep that alive? Is it urban AC radio? Like, what is it? Yeah, the 12 o' clock throwback mix on. Yeah, you know, I mean, you know, that's a, that's a corporate conversation, man. We can head out, but get ready.
Charlamagne Tha God
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DJ Envy
Down the top five moments everyone's talking about. From the most jaw dropping highlights on the field to the viral clips taken.
Charlamagne Tha God
Over the feed to the culture shifts shaping fashion, entertainment and black Excellence. The Top 5 countdown dives into all the game winning touchdowns, buzzer beaters, red carpet fits and headlines making stories that define our culture.
DJ Envy
With Cam bringing an athlete's perspective and Ashley bringing an analyst's edge, they're breaking down every angle. The wins, the controversies and the unforgettable.
Charlamagne Tha God
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DJ Envy
Whether it's stars like LeBron, Steph Giannis.
Charlamagne Tha God
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DJ Envy
Or catch what you missed, stream the.
Charlamagne Tha God
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Janelle
In the new podcast Hell in Heaven two young Americans move to the Costa Rican jungle to start over. But one will end up dead, the other tried for murder not once. People went wild, not twice, stunned, but three times. John and Anne Bender are rich and attractive and they're devoted to each other. They create a nature reserve and build a spectacular circular home high on the top of a hill. But little by little by little, their dream starts to crumble and our couple retreat from reality.
DJ Envy
They lose it.
Angela Yee
They actually lose it.
Janelle
They sort of went nuts. Until one night, everything spins out of control. Listen to Hell in Heaven on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All I know is what I've been told and that to have truth as.
Mimi Brown
A who for almost a decade, the murder of an 18 year old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved until a local homemaker, a journalist and a handful of girls came forward with a story.
Janelle
I'm telling you, we know Quincy killed her.
Mimi Brown
We know a story that law enforcement used to convict six people and that got the citizen investigator on national tv.
DJ Envy
Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky housewife helped give justice to Jessica Curran.
Mimi Brown
My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist producer and I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find.
DJ Envy
I did not know her and I did not kill her or rape or burn or any of that other stuff.
Angela Yee
That y' all said.
Janelle
They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her. They made me say that I poured gas on her.
Mimi Brown
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Charlamagne Tha God
America, y' all better wake the hell up. Bad things Happens to good people and small towns.
Mimi Brown
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DJ Envy
No, I mean, I'm saying, man, like we got to bring DJ Envy. We have to bring DJs were the spokesman for the hood, man. Or for black people. On what was good and what was not. Everybody ain't good, right? Just cause you made it. It ain't. Everybody's not. I know. Music is subjective. All right, cool. Everybody's DJs was supposed to be the ones that told us what was good and what was not. We trusted the dj. It's been like this since the beginning of hip hop. And so that's what we need, man. And we can't. We can't get a certain age and just say, man, I don't want to hear that old stuff anymore. Other cultures don't do that, bro. They don't take a special ed and throw them to the back burner. Whoever the country version of special ed is, whoever the country version of Big Daddy Kane is, they don't throw them to the back burner. We need to make sure our legends are great and revered, just like they do in the grand old Opera in Nashville, on any other genre. The Rolling Stones still rocking because people are still going for us. It's out with the old and with the new. That's a gene. That's the thing about black people. Because we so creative, we just. We just onto the neck so fast. We cannot abandon who got us here and who continues to still do music. It's up to us. We cannot wait on anybody else to do it but us, bro.
Angela Yee
And they start. And they're starting with the stations because growing up, no matter what, what market you. And it was always a classic rock station, right? Always going to have that. And we're starting to get that now. We are with, you know, 80s and 90s, you know, hip hop stations and things like that.
DJ Envy
But in reality, all urban adult contemporary stations have to do is just update the playlist. Like old school now is what we came up on in the 90s and the early 2000s. But they still playing, and they should. But they playing Earth, Wind and Fire and like.
Janelle
Yeah, that's why I'm glad that we do on Fridays. We do have Past the Other with Nyla. Cause Nyla Simone has put me on to you like that. She's how I found you and Odile and a lot of other artists that she has put me on with. So the DJs definitely, you know, you got DJs with good ears, man. That's like, look, you put your ear to the music, and these are the things that you feel are, like, kind of rare. She putting them out there every Friday. Like I said, she put me on you and a lot of other people that I listen to now.
Charlamagne Tha God
So, you know, y' all do a great job of that, just having her on Friday doing the pasta ox. And I think it needs to be more because even, like Envy, I would just saw a video where you. You was the first person to play Hit him up, you know what I mean? And I feel like allegedly, that's his story.
DJ Envy
Don't give him that credit.
Angela Yee
Nobody else will go against it, too.
Janelle
Like, I.
DJ Envy
Sure.
Angela Yee
And I tell you, I mean, I said I got it from Shot Money xl. I used to produce it to me left the studio and gave it to his first DJ to play.
DJ Envy
If I heard it was only Dirty Harry. That definitely wasn't Dirty Harry. Dirty Harry.
Charlamagne Tha God
But nah, like, real talk. Like, I just feel like, you know, you, like, again, she does it incredibly with Past the Ox. But I feel like, you know, we need to honor the young DJs and, you know, allow them to have that space because, you know, they're going to be the ones putting us on the music now. You know what I mean? Just like. Like, you were who kid, you know, Clue. Like, you know, it's. It needs to continue again. Each one teach one. You know what I mean? So I'm with you.
DJ Envy
It's wild because now when you watch NFL games, you watch NBA games, when they go to commercial, they playing, like, nothing but a G thing and a war tour. And I remember when Jalen Rose was, you know, the NBA commentator. Like I said, man, I wonder if Jalen Rose got influence in what they playing when they go to commercial break. Because they play who Got the Props one day. And I was like, wait a minute, bro. But it's. That's. We are. I think Jimmy Fallon is a prime example of where we are in the time continuum, because to have the be the Tonight show host and your band be the Roots tells you everything. And he always says, Black Thought's my favorite rapper. Tyler Kweli is my second favorite rapper, and he's what, 50 years old? So, I mean, I think we just need to do more of that, man. We just cannot abandon our classics like that. Yeah, I agree.
Mimi Brown
Agree.
DJ Envy
Knife, you don't have to answer this if you don't want to. Okay. May the Lord watch. Okay, everybody wanted to know why Knife Wonder didn't participate in the Little brother documentary. That's a long story. I don't think we got that kind of time. But I will say this, man, you talking about in the documentary. Yes. Why you didn't participate. Yeah, that's a long story. We gotta count. But I will say this. And sometimes people think I say something. Political reasons. Y' all watch me for years. Both of y' all have watched me for years. I have never been a person to go online and in public to try not to say that they did that to me. But to deface and talk negative about another man or woman, that's never been my thing. And that's they feeling. That's how they respect. And you have to respect how they feel about everything or whatever. But as far as their success, as far as their we being a part of each other's history, I cannot change that at all. Little Brother has our own children. Kendrick, Drake, Cole, Big Sean, Wale, Ruben, Vincent. We got our own children. Right? Again, it's a story behind it. But that's. I believe in family business, bro. That's just how. This is how I was raised. That's how I am. And, you know, we're at the age now. I'm 50 years old, bro. Y' all know how this goes, man. We lose people every day, bro. We're losing family members. Listen, listen. God bless them brothers, man. Let them keep doing what they doing. I think they are on tour right now. They got shows. They still doing shows. Fonte is incredibly talented, although we may have disagreements or whatever. Incredibly talented.
Charlamagne Tha God
One of the illness pins.
DJ Envy
Exactly. You know what I mean? I've seen Pooh go from being one artist, one rapper to another rapper to the level that he is. Without. Without. No. Without. No. Fonte Coleman would not be a Drake.
Charlamagne Tha God
Facts. That's a fact.
DJ Envy
Drake. Drake, completely, 1,000%. He says it a million times. Studied him, revered him, imitated him. Everything we know about Drake rapping and singing is Fonte Coleman. Fonty and Joe Button. Huh? Fonte and Joe Button, Dante Coleman and. But it's my man. You know what? I'm. Yeah, but that. Again, going back. Listen, man, like, that's how it is with me. I got to keep moving, man. I. I didn't see the documentary at all. I never watched it. I've heard about it from everybody, but I gotta keep them moving, man. I cannot stay in that space. We. We don't have the time on this earth to stay in that space. I got work to do. This is my work. Now. I got other work to do as well. This is my label, Jamla. That's what it is. But again, salute them brothers, man. God bless them brothers, man. That's how they feel. They have that had the right to express it. I didn't go online and say anything about it. When it came out. I heard everything about it. Blah, blah, blah, difference of opinion, and we move on. What message are you two trying to send back to the culture with welcome home? That the feeling is not lost. You can continue to give the feeling. And there's not a division between a generation. We are 25 years apart. This can work and music can be made with this. That's the biggest thing I want to get across, man.
Charlamagne Tha God
And I think for me, whether you are NBA Youngboy or whether you are a Reuben Vincent, whether you are a any other name that I can name right now, show up as yourself. Show up as yourself and perform at a high level. I ain't rapping to just drive a Honda Accord, bruh. You know what I mean? Like, but I'm gonna do it as myself. I ain't here to compromise, none of that, but. But I am gonna be one of the greatest in my generation. I'm gonna say that.
DJ Envy
That's just a fact.
Charlamagne Tha God
You know what I mean? And I'm gonna do it being 100% Ruben Vincent. I' ma always rep Africa, I' ma always rep Charlotte, and I'mma always rep showing up as yourself. And that's exactly what this album is about.
Angela Yee
Hey, Reuben Vincent, 9th wonder. We appreciate you, brothers.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes, sir.
Angela Yee
Album comes out this Friday. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
DJ Envy
Yeah, you're checking out the Breakfast Club.
Angela Yee
Morning, everybody. It's DJ and Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get to the latest with Lauren.
Janelle
Lauren becoming a straight face.
Angela Yee
She gets them from somebody that knows somebody.
DJ Envy
She gets the details.
Janelle
I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything.
DJ Envy
She'd be having the latest on.
Charlamagne Tha God
The Latest with Lauren LaRosa.
DJ Envy
Sometimes you have facts, Sometimes you have details. Sometimes you have a little bit of everything. Well, it's the latest on the Breakfast Club.
Janelle
Talk to me now out of this whole big NBA fed news that has been breaking over the last 24 hours. There's been some interesting conversations coming out of it. So right now, what's happening is there are a ton of people that feel like this is a political thing, that this Is Trump getting back at the NBA for all of the, you know, civil rights activism that they did some years ago? One of the people who believe that is Stephen A. Smith. Let's take a listen to Stephen A. On first take.
DJ Envy
How many times times have I said, trump is coming, he's coming. We'll say it on national television again. Bad Bunny is, is performing at the.
Charlamagne Tha God
Super bowl, and all of a sudden.
DJ Envy
You hear an ICE is going to be there looking to engage in mass deportations. Remember, Trump has a long, long history connected to the world of sports because he had those casinos. Where do you think folks will come in half the time? Don't be surprised that the WNBA is next, because when you've got all of these protests that have been going out there and people that have been protesting against them and what have you, you, this man is coming. Anybody that has been around him from the sports leagues and the positions that people have taken, they are not surprised at what's going on. Today I'm watching a press conference with the director of the FBI.
Charlamagne Tha God
Tell me when we've seen that.
DJ Envy
Why, why can't we just let things play out? Like, you know, I'm, I'm not saying Stephen A. Is wrong. I just think that one of our biggest problems is, you know, we don't let things play out. Like, we all have to talk about what we think and add our conspiracies and hot takes, like Bad Bunny's not committing a crime. And what did they. What is the NBA doing? And I don't even know if the NBA players committed a crime, but it seems like they're connected at least to a crime. But what, what does the NBA got going on?
Angela Yee
But not only that, didn't they say they've been, they've been actually watching them since, like, 2019, 2020. So Trump was out of office and they were still watching them. So, you know, I mean, it's just weird to say that.
DJ Envy
What have the WNBA players done? Like, you know, like I always say, you know, you can't go after somebody if they don't. They're not giving you anything, you know, to go after them for.
Janelle
True. And I will say, too, there's. Outside of just the press conference that happened yesterday, there's actual, like, there's documents around this indictment, so you can go in and read what led to what and why we're here. But the NBA players are going to push back, too. So we have to wait to hear what their defenses will be like. This going to play out. It's going to take some months for all of. All of this to unfold. Now, another real quick.
DJ Envy
Is Trump petty? Yes. Is Trump on a revenge tour? Yes. But what that got to do with some of these sports leagues, a bad bunny performing at the Super Bowl?
Janelle
I don't know. Yeah. Now, another person who spoke out about this was Shaq. Shaq was on inside the NBA, and he said that he is ashamed. Let's take a listen.
Charlamagne Tha God
I don't know the letter of the law when it comes to gambling and sports gambling. And I don't want to sit up here like I'm some perfect guy. Like I. Every now and then when I go to Vegas, I play some crap. Never gambled at anybody's house. Don't know anything about poker. So I don't know what. What they talking about when it comes to the. To the Chauncy thing, but I know Chauncey. I know Damon. Very well played with Damon. So I don't want to sit up here. But I'm ashamed that those guys will put their families and their careers in jeopardy. There's old saying in the hood, all money ain't good money. So if you're making $9 million and you're dealing in certain things, like, how much more do you need? Especially if, you know, you get caught, you can do jail time, time, lose your career, they drop the ball.
DJ Envy
See, once again, when I hear Shaq talk like that, I think the same thing. Why can't we just let play. Let things play out like it. It just makes me believe they know something because they're not even giving them the benefit of the doubt. Just. I'm ashamed of them. They put their families in jeopardy.
Angela Yee
Like, you're right.
DJ Envy
I thought it was. I thought it was innocent until proven.
Janelle
Guilty, which is what they said multiple times at the press conference as well.
Angela Yee
It's supposed to be innocent until proven guilty. But, you know, the sad thing about it is, is once something hits the press, once there's an indictment, whether it's right or wrong, you start to lose everything. Like, immediately. The NBA said they suspended Chauncey Billups and suspended Rosier immediately.
DJ Envy
I understand that, though I don't.
Angela Yee
Because unless there's proof to say that they are wrong, because let's say they did absolutely, positively nothing wrong. Nothing at all. I lose my job, I lose my sponsorship, I lose my endorsements, and I really did nothing wrong. I don't know if that's true.
Janelle
But in the indictment, though, in the documents I was making mentioning that the, you know, the government does have to like, say, here is what led us here. So, like, they say that they have text messages of, you know, different things happening. And, like, all of this is not coming from anywhere. And that's what you want.
Angela Yee
If it could be explained something differently.
Janelle
That's why you gotta wait.
Angela Yee
It's not. It's not right.
Janelle
Not comparing the two. But I will say we thought a lot was happening with Diddy in the beginning of his federal and his federal case, right? And then we got in court.
DJ Envy
This is what y' all missing about the Chauncey Terry thing. Thing. They were actually arrested and charged. If you're arrested and charged, I can see why the corporation would suspend you.
Angela Yee
Yeah, that's true. But the sad thing about it is when you're arrested and charged, you could be arrested and charged falsely. You know what I mean? And you and I both know with like, Chauncey Billups, let's say they suspended him, there's gonna be another coach in there that takes his job, right? And that another coach, if he starts doing job, Chauncey ain't getting that job back. You see what I'm saying? And he might lose five, seven million dollars a year. And then he comes back and be like, oh, not guilty. Sorry, sorry.
DJ Envy
If he's not guilty, he'll probably still get paid his contract, though, because there's no moral clause that was violated. You know what I'm saying?
Angela Yee
Yeah.
Janelle
Well, look, they got a lot of claims in this indictment, and again, it'll take some time, but it'll all play out and we'll see. What irons out is, you know, what a court believes is fact and not fact and kind of what happens from there.
Angela Yee
But also, I think we need to have conversations. I think a lot of people don't know that those backyard poker games are illegal. I think most people don't know that.
Janelle
That. I didn't know that.
Angela Yee
See, I don't think most people knew. I don't play poker, so it's not in my world. But most people don't know that. That's illegal. You really not supposed to.
Janelle
You only supposed to play poker in a casino.
Angela Yee
Yeah, because it's taxed. It's.
Janelle
It's.
Angela Yee
You know, you could. You can know people are not getting over on you with false cards and stuff.
Janelle
But also, y', all too.
DJ Envy
The.
Janelle
The feds are saying that they have text messages of certain things and they have actual proof. So if I think people are just depending on what they. What they have right now. And it's a short. Maybe it's Too fast to say certain things, but they're just going off what they have right now. But yeah, Envy.
DJ Envy
I know. Envy, I know you don't play poker, but do you play Pokemon?
Janelle
Oh, my God.
Angela Yee
We played that last night, me and you. Oh, okay.
Janelle
Y' all some Pokemon crazy.
DJ Envy
After the new generation of Jamaicans. Say he a Pokemon. Pokemon.
Janelle
As we wrap, I did want to take some time to shout out Asia Wilson. I know you're headed down there. Charlam. She last night was inducted into the Athletic hall of Fame in South Carolina. Congratulations. Yes. And she gave an amazing speech as she was inducted. Let's take a listen to that real quick. To my parents, you've been my biggest supporter since day one.
Charlamagne Tha God
You sacrificed, you cheered me on, and you kept me grounded throughout it all. This honor is for you.
DJ Envy
It's school. To my boyfriend. Even though you went to Kaki.
Janelle
And.
DJ Envy
You, you went to that royal blue school. Thank you for the constant support.
Lanny Smith
Always.
DJ Envy
You weren't there for the young Asia, but your support is always in my.
Angela Yee
Up to this point, when I see.
Janelle
Girls in the stands wearing the N bolster on the back of their jerseys.
DJ Envy
I hope they carry it with them.
Janelle
In the belief of anything is possible.
DJ Envy
Shout out to her. Salute to Asia Wilson.
Janelle
That is so dope. That's dope.
DJ Envy
I'll be in conversation with Asia and Asia Wilson and Don Staley today at the Colonial Life arena at 4:30pm and then after that, it's an exhibition game between Anderson, S.C. so hope you got your tickets. I'll see y' all this afternoon.
Angela Yee
Dope, dope, dope. All right.
Janelle
Yo, what up? It's my girl Monica birthday. Okay, Y' all already know, and I want to hear some Monica, but I want to do some interesting stuff. Look, did y' all know that Monica was a mortician? She not only a singer, but she a mortician at her uncle's funeral home and has been since 2017.
Angela Yee
Yeah, like now. Like recently.
Janelle
Like now recently. Yes. She takes her career very serious. Not only is she a singer and all that, you know, and on tour and everything, songwriter. But she's also a mortician.
Angela Yee
You sure that's the right Monica?
DJ Envy
Monica. Monica will kill you and do the body.
Angela Yee
She will kill you and do the body. Yes.
Janelle
And hair and makeup and everything will be laid. Cuz she's always together. Talked about it before. It's her. It's her family business. Yes.
Angela Yee
Wow.
Janelle
Yeah.
DJ Envy
That is crazy. That Guna could kill you and do the body.
Janelle
You know it.
DJ Envy
What's Crazy is Lauren been trying to look like Brandy and Monica all week. And she been looking like a combination of Brandy, Monica and Jaja Binks. That's why I've been calling her Brandica Banks. That's her alias. Brandica Binks.
Janelle
That is so messed up. I was going to say the guy don't even do that. God don't like ugly. Okay, what's your favorite Monica song? Probably before you walk out of my life. Or angel of mine. So I got. I got four of them. I got don't take it personal. Why I love you so much. For you I will. And before you walk out of my life.
DJ Envy
Yeah, yeah.
Janelle
I don't know if you One of.
Angela Yee
Them days or the boy's mind. No, no, no.
Janelle
Just one of them days is don't take it personal. That's what we should go out. I know. That's what we should go out on. We should go out on. Don't take it personal. Just one of them days.
Angela Yee
Okay.
Janelle
Keep it up.
DJ Envy
Ain't nothing like that Never meant to cause you no pain Hurry. Yeah. Before I walk out My life hit.
Janelle
So hard that's right.
DJ Envy
Never meant you no pain Just always.
Janelle
Causing pain in here I get a break when you are not here being the same Just want to make things.
DJ Envy
Right Only want to make things wrong okay, that slaps. That's a slap.
Janelle
Happy birthday, Monica.
Angela Yee
All right, well, let's get into her joint now. That was the latest with Lauren. When we come back, Charlemagne's opening up the phone lines, right?
DJ Envy
Yes, sir. It's the people's donkey. Call us right now if you want to give somebody the credit they deserve for being stupid. 1-800-585-10511. It's the world's most dangerous morning show, the Breakfast Club.
Charlamagne Tha God
It's your time to nominate a donkey of your own.
DJ Envy
Remember now, that is how they choose. Call in now.
Angela Yee
800-585-1051.
DJ Envy
Good morning. Who this? It's KP Mansfield. KP who you want to give the biggest he haw to brother man? I want to give it to the NBA. I was just going to give it to the Cleveland Cavaliers, but I'm going to just give it to the NBA. That everybody that was trying not to score them points and blowing everybody parlays, they wrong. We need our money back. That's gonna be funny when people do a class action lawsuit against NBA and NBA players. It ain't the NBA.
Angela Yee
But I wonder about that. Like if. If I bet money on a game, right? And he threw the game on purpose.
DJ Envy
Right.
Angela Yee
How. How do you make that hole for people?
DJ Envy
You know, I think we think my group think Gilbert arena snitched on everybody. Everybody. Well, Gilbert is kind of leaning into that a little bit from what I saw yesterday. Right. Yeah, we, we think, we think he snitched on everybody and we need to see a matter of fact get him the other day. I think everybody need to stop thinking and just let everybody have their day in court. Yeah, I think should happen.
Charlamagne Tha God
Absolutely.
DJ Envy
Well, J. Rose there, we know he was really throwing them games because. Yeah, I remember that video from. That was like what, 20, 23? Good morning. Who's this?
Janelle
Adrian.
DJ Envy
Peace. Adrian, who you want to get a biggest he haw to?
Janelle
I have to give the biggest he haw to my son Jacob, my nine year old son.
DJ Envy
Damn. What he do?
Janelle
Because I've been asking him for a month what he wanted to be for Halloween and he didn't know. And then now this morning he decides that he knows where he wants to be. And now it's like pulling teeth, hoping that the costume will come by Halloween.
DJ Envy
What does he want to be on top of that?
Janelle
That he wants to be some inflatable alien?
DJ Envy
Lord have mercy.
Charlamagne Tha God
Inflatable?
Angela Yee
That's inflatable? Aliens are easy to get. You could go to spirits or any of those they have that. Even I think Target has that cuz my kid was that last year. My daughter did the same thing to me. She wanted to be a yellow Care Bear and they ain't got that at spirit so I had to order it next day. Amazon.
Janelle
Damn. Yeah, so Amazon says it might come after Halloween.
DJ Envy
Oh, damn. Walmart doesn't have.
Janelle
I don't go to Target anymore. Yeah, Amazon is backed up. It's backed up.
DJ Envy
So listen, nobody gonna judge you if you sneak and talk. Matter of fact, just put on a Halloween costume so nobody knows it's you. Yeah, wear a mask.
Charlamagne Tha God
You might have to just go there.
Angela Yee
Nobody gonna say nothing. Just sneaking in, right in and out. Just get that one thing.
DJ Envy
I promise you we won't tell Tamika.
Lanny Smith
Mallory.
DJ Envy
I promise you, I promise we won't tell Jamal.
Janelle
Right this year, guys.
DJ Envy
All right, Stick to your convictions. All right, but we not judging.
Janelle
I appreciate y'.
DJ Envy
All.
Janelle
Oh, yeah, and he also, he lost his school Chromebook, so he's done too much in one week.
DJ Envy
Damn, damn, damn. Well, maybe you don't deserve a Halloween present. Maybe that's your excuse. No, you lost your book, you don't get a Halloween. A costume.
Janelle
Halloween present is crazy.
DJ Envy
All right, thank you thank you for calling.
Janelle
All right.
DJ Envy
Good morning. Who's this?
Janelle
Hi, this is Lita. Good morning.
DJ Envy
You said Lolita?
Janelle
Yeah.
DJ Envy
Hey, Lolita who you want to get.
Janelle
A biggest he haw to the entire Northern State administration?
DJ Envy
Wow.
Janelle
An athletic department.
DJ Envy
What they do, what they do.
Janelle
They are making Norfolk State homecoming miserable. And just, just. They're doing too much. They're doing too much. This year they have fenced off the entire campus. They want homecoming just to be boring. You have to get your tickets. Then today you gotta get your wristbands because if you don't have a wristband, you can't do the tailgating. They want the tailgating to be over by 8pm and the grills and music to be off by 6pm why are they doing this?
DJ Envy
Is it for security reasons?
Janelle
Honestly, what we think is because the Michael Vick.
Angela Yee
That's exactly what it is. Norfolk State homecoming has been a big thing in years, but now that they got Mike Vick, everybody outside of just alum want to come. So I guess they're trying to try to make sure everything. Yeah.
DJ Envy
Keep it scheduled. I mean, what's wrong with that? If you try to keep it organized, keep everything on schedule, you don't make. You don't make.
Janelle
You don't make one person change your entire relationship.
DJ Envy
Well, maybe the fans have been there before.
Janelle
Mike Van.
DJ Envy
Right. Yeah. But what if it's crazy? What if it's three times the size that it. That it usually is?
Angela Yee
It is going to be crazy.
DJ Envy
With no order.
Janelle
It's. It's always. It's. Last year, north state had over 30,000 without Mike. And this year, this was last year.
Angela Yee
It's going to be double that this year. And you know, there's Old Dominion Homecoming and Hampton Homecoming. So the 757.
Janelle
And Virginia State.
Angela Yee
And Virginia State. This is going to be flooded. The whole 757. That's 804. But the whole 757 is going to be flooded. Flooded with people so that I guess they're trying to control it because police gonna be spread thin on in that 757 this weekend.
Janelle
Man, the police has been crazy since he's got there and. And that's no problem. No problem. But it's like you just making an inconvenience for people. You know, you have to get your tickets and then now you have to go and get your. Your wristband.
DJ Envy
Well, that's crazy. You know that, that structure.
Janelle
Yeah, well, I'm gonna see what happens.
DJ Envy
Yeah, that structure in that one, it might be good. I don't know.
Janelle
I'll keep you posted.
DJ Envy
All right. And why do people act like they don't go to these events just to sit in traffic? That's what y' all go to. Y' all go just to be able to text everybody and be like, boy, it's crazy out here. We can't even move. No.
Angela Yee
You got one more. One more personal life.
DJ Envy
Yes. Good morning. Who's this?
Janelle
Hey, this your girl Keith from Charleston, South Carolina.
DJ Envy
Hey, what's up, home team? Who you want to get a biggest he haw to?
Janelle
I want to give it to all Americans. Right now, we are literally sitting back and letting the government play with us. If they are going to shut down, I feel like we need to shut down as well. Stop going to work, stop paying bills. It's getting ridiculous. Premiums are going up and pay wages aren't going up. I feel like we are. The people have the power. And when we open our eyes and realize that the government won't have nothing to do but to submit to us, that's just how I feel about it.
DJ Envy
I do feel like we're past the point of political solutions, and it's going to take some type of national scratch strike in order to really, really, really, really get this government to act right. I do. I am starting to feel like that.
Janelle
Yes. Like it's our everyday American paycheck that keeps them in power, that keeps their bank account full. If we as Americans literally say, hey, we are not going to work, they will panic. They will go crazy, literally.
DJ Envy
I think we got to start caring about the Constitution the way we care about pop culture. Because I think about, like, like the uproar there was when Jimmy Kimmel got removed, and then everybody decided they was going to cancel their Disney subscriptions. And then, you know, the Disney stock prices pummeled it, and all of a sudden, Disney was like, oh, nope, you got to put him back on air. So maybe we got to start caring about the Constitution and things like health care and, you know, government shutdown. We got to start caring about things like that, the way we care about pop culture.
Janelle
Yes, we definitely do. Thank you, guys. Y' all have a great morning. You too.
DJ Envy
We. We do that every Friday. It's the people's donkey. You can call us 1-800-585-1051 on Fridays, or you can go to the iHeartRadio app, click the Talkback app on the Breakfast Club page, and leave a message.
Angela Yee
That's right. Now when we come back, Charlemagne, who we got? We got Lanny Smith.
DJ Envy
Man. Lanny Smith. Lanny Smith is the founder of actively black clothing line. I love actively black clothing. They had a a fashion show during New York Fashion Week week and they had so many amazing black luminaries walk that fashion show and he's going to have some of them in here today. With us this morning. He's got South Carolina's own Cecil Williams. He's got Frederica Newton.
Charlamagne Tha God
Get ready because sports, culture and entertainment is colliding like never before. Wednesday at 10, 9 Central on BET is BET's all new series 106 in.
DJ Envy
Sports, hosted by NFL star Cam Newton.
Charlamagne Tha God
And sports analyst Ashley Nicole Moss. 106 in Sports is where the biggest plays meet the biggest conversations. Each week, Cam and Ashley are counting.
DJ Envy
Down the top five moments everyone's talking about. From the most jaw dropping highlights on the field to the viral clips taken.
Charlamagne Tha God
Over the feed to the culture shifts shaping fashion, entertainment and black Excellence, the.
DJ Envy
Top 5 countdown dives into all the.
Charlamagne Tha God
Game winning touchdowns, buzzer beaters, red carpet fits and headlines making stories that define our culture culture.
DJ Envy
With Cam bringing an athlete's perspective and Ashley bringing an analyst edge, they're breaking down every angle. The wins, the controversies and the unforgettable.
Charlamagne Tha God
Moments that keep us talking. Whether it's a wild play that broke the Internet or a championship celebration for the ages or the latest trends shaking up culture. If it's big, it's on 106 in sports.
DJ Envy
Whether it's stars like LeBron, Steph Giannis.
Charlamagne Tha God
And Durant making waves on and off the court, you know it's making the countdown. So tune in and join the conversation because it's where sports meets style, competition meets culture and every moment matters. Don't miss the all new series on Wednesdays at 109 Central on bets 106 in sports. If you want to relive the countdown or catch what you miss, stream the next day on BET.
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Janelle
In the new podcast Hell in Heaven, two young Americans move to the Costa Rican jungle to start over. But one will end up dead, the other tried for murder not once. People went wild, not twice, stunned, but three times. John and Anne Bender are rich and attractive and they're devoted to each other. They create a nature reserve and build a spectacular circular home high on the top of a hill. But little by little, their dream starts to crumble and our couple retreat from reality.
Angela Yee
They lose it. They actually lose it.
Janelle
They sort of went nuts until one night, everything spins out of control. Listen to Helen Heaven on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. All I know is what I've been told and that to have truth is a whole lie.
Mimi Brown
For almost a decade, the murder of an 18 year old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved until a local homemaker, a journalist and a handful of girls came forward with a story.
Janelle
I'm telling you, we know Quincy killed her.
Mimi Brown
We know a story that law enforcement used to convict six people and that got the citizen investigator on national tv.
DJ Envy
Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky housewife helped give justice to Jessica Curran.
Mimi Brown
My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist producer and I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find.
DJ Envy
I did not know her and I did not kill her or rape or burn or any of that other stuff.
Angela Yee
That y' all said.
Janelle
They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her. They made me say that I poured gas on her.
Mimi Brown
From Lava for Good. This is Graves County, a show about just how far our our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame.
Charlamagne Tha God
America, y' all better wake the hell up. Bad things happens to good people and small towns.
Mimi Brown
Listen to Graves county in the Bone Valley feed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season ad free, subscribe to Lava for Good + + on Apple Podcasts.
DJ Envy
The wife of Huey P. Newton and Chairman Fred Hampton Jr. Fred Hampton's son will be joining us.
Angela Yee
All right, we'll get into that next. So don't Move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Charlamagne Tha God
The Breakfast Club.
DJ Envy
Morning, everybody.
Angela Yee
Is DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne. We are the Breakfast Club. Lorna Rose is here as well. We got some special guests joining us this morning.
DJ Envy
Yes, indeed.
Angela Yee
We have Alani Smith here.
DJ Envy
Good morning.
Lanny Smith
Good morning. Good morning.
Angela Yee
We have Cesar Williams.
DJ Envy
Good morning. Good morning.
Angela Yee
We have Frederica Newton.
DJ Envy
Good morning. Good morning.
Angela Yee
And we have Fred Hampton Jr. Good morning.
Charlamagne Tha God
Morning.
Janelle
Morning.
Angela Yee
How y' all feeling this morning?
Lanny Smith
Man, we blessed man. Black and blessed man.
DJ Envy
Blessed, black and highly favored.
Lanny Smith
Yes, sir.
DJ Envy
Lanny, why we all gathered here today with all these amazing people?
Lanny Smith
Brother, man, we. We had a New York Fashion Week show about. About a month ago, man, and we were blessed to have these individuals show up and walk on the Runway with us, along with Dr. Bernice King and Elias Shabazz, the daughters of Malcolm X and Martin Luther King. And the response to it, the way that black people have responded to seeing these people on the Runway, knowing that this history wasn't that long ago, like they try to tell us that it was, has been powerful, man. So actively black. The company that I founded, we were built with the intention to uplift and reinvest back into the black community. And these incredible legends have been supportive of the brand. So.
DJ Envy
And when you. When you. I want y' all to know, man. Cecil Williams, right? Y' all know this legendary picture right here.
Angela Yee
That's right.
DJ Envy
Of the brother drinking out of the. The whites only water fountain. I always wanted to ask you, Mr. Williams, was it a spontaneous act of rebellion or something? Something you plan to do as a statement? It was a little bit of both. I was thirsty, but also it was the middle of the sun. Sh. Of the summer, you know, as evident T shirt. But. But also, this was not the first time I did this. There were many other times that I felt I wanted to. You're local, really? I was not satisfied with living in the status quo in segregation. So this was something that I had done many times, and my mother warned me not to do it anymore. But I did it again, and this time it was photographed. Did you feel fear in that moment, or was your faith stronger than your fear? None whatsoever. This is about 15, 20 miles from Orangeburg and on Highway 21 and coming back from an assignment for Jet magazine. But I never sent this picture to Jet. It was something that I held in the family, and I knew I would get chewed out had I, you know, given it to my mother and father to see. So I hid it from them and never sent it to Jet either. Wow. So How'd they get it? Maybe three or four years later, I showed it to in a conversation one Sunday afternoon during a dinner. It kind of came out and then I got chewed out.
Angela Yee
Wow.
DJ Envy
What did that single act teach you about the power of defiance in the face of injustice? Well, living in South Carolina, being a child of segregation, it was something that we encountered all day long from birth to death. We in South Carolina during that period of time felt again, we were treated as sub class human beings. Not being able to go to a store and go into a restroom or go or drink, get a drink of water out of a fountain, or having to go to a side window or going to a movie theater and having to sit in a separate place or not at all.
Lanny Smith
So.
DJ Envy
But again, one thing that I would like to. This may be out of characteristic of many southerners. There were many good white white people at the time as well. You can't just put a blanket statement against that. All people treated us. There were many good hearted white people at the time and they were friends of my family and they helped support our family. So. But it was some people in South Carolina, again, who lived by, treated us as a status quo. Not being able to do this or that.
Angela Yee
So crazy to think about it. Like, you know, when you have these conversations, we're really not that far removed from that.
DJ Envy
No, he's right here.
Angela Yee
That's what I'm saying. Like you, you don't, you don't really think about it. Like you said earlier, like, we're not far removed from racism. And even the stories that my dad tells me, I'm like, this is crazy. This is what, 50 years ago, 60.
DJ Envy
Years ago, I got one of my aunts, she said, I don't know nothing about no, I don't know nothing about no integration. Yeah. Because all she knew was segregated schools.
Lanny Smith
You know, we had, we had Ruby Bridges walk the Runway as well. And it was a powerful moment because everybody has remembers that picture. Six year old little girl being escorted into school by federal marshals. And Ruby just turned 71. But you know, black don't crack. So she looks 45 and she walks out on the Runway. It made it real to people. Like that same little girl in that black and white photo is walking right here in front of me. So that's, that's the power of having, having these individuals here with me, showing, you know, how close we are to everything that we still fighting to this day.
Angela Yee
Do y' all hate, I'm sorry, do y' all hate white people?
DJ Envy
God damn. What the hell?
Angela Yee
Now I'm gonna tell you why. When I talk to my dad, my dad has a feeling towards white people, right? And I always joke and I laugh about it, but then when he tells me his history of him being in the military and, you know, they're in the same barracks, but then when they go get some food, it's white only. And his people in the barracks, they go get food and he can't. Yeah, he talks about the water fountain and the bathroom and all this other stuff and why he looks at white people the way that he does. I understand it. So that's why I ask you to say.
DJ Envy
Well, it's brought to the forefront by Lana Smith and again, the fashion show in Fat car. He labeled the fashion show. This is not a fashion show. Pictures like this are just evidence of a time and period we lived in America that seemingly in today's society. Some people want to bring it back, but it's long gone. But people like me who experienced this and people that were on this show that was put together by this amazing brother who has brought forth this apparel that again, has crisscrossed across America and being put into the hands of today's generation. T shirts and other things that he makes, we're not going to stand for again. Resegregating America is going to be something that is long gone. And to answer your question, there are again, many, many good white people. And again, it's a myth, I think, that all white people are bad. Of course. I think growing up in South Carolina was such a mind because. Because to your point, I grew up around a lot of good white people. But then we were also aware of the white people who treated us like status quo. Like there's certain places you knew you weren't supposed to go. But then I also had my white friend and Thomas and his family who lived right by me. So it was a class thing. So it's just. It's just, I don't know, South Carolina different.
Charlamagne Tha God
But tag team with you first. I'm Chairman Fred Hampton Jr. I'm honored to be here again. Clinch fit. Salute to this brother and his wife, his team, you know what I'm saying? Because everything's political, including fashion. To get this pill and the applesauce. For these type of discussions, it's revolutionary. It's a misnomer about, like, it's motivated, how your moves, how we move. It's a hatred for someone else. Commandante Ernesto Che Guevara said, you know, a revolutionary. No matter how preposterous it may Sound is guided by the most sincere sentiments of love. And I'm not saying this was sort of abstract sort of way, but talking about the work of such organizations, the Black Panther Party, the motivation for getting up with the first free breakfast programs, free busing programs, survival programs, realms was not directed out of hatred for anyone. You know what I'm saying? But again, motivated for love for people.
DJ Envy
But let me say this, though.
Charlamagne Tha God
I think all black people should get, like, a Mass Nobel Peace Prize. All of us, you know what I'm saying? The fact that we ain't just on Mass snapped out, you know what I'm saying? A lot of times it's ironic that we ain't motivated out of hatred, but again. And sometimes, even though it's a reactionary response, it's kind of justified. But again, for the record, it's a motivator. Love for the people.
Janelle
I'd like to echo if I could. Hi, I'm Frederica, and Huey Newton was my husband. And what came to mind when you even asked that question was a quote from Huey that said, what motivates people is not hatred, but it's love for other people. So my mother was white, and she introduced me to Huey because she was doing work with the Black Panther Party and she was the only one that they trusted to do the real estate work. So I did not grow up hating anyone. But what I do hate is white supremacy and the impact on black community. I actually hate that and the impacts of it, the impact that it's had on us. So, again, as my brother said so eloquently, as he always does. As he always does is that the Black Panther Party service was out of love, out of love for black people, out of love for oppression, oppress people. And it wasn't. It wasn't guided by hate. So it's impossible for me to hate anybody.
DJ Envy
Lanny, why was it important to have these historical black figures. Yeah. Walking the actively black fashion show.
Lanny Smith
Yeah. So 1. The tagline for actively black is there's greatness in our DNA. And very intentional about that because I think over the centuries of oppression, subconsciously, our people have accepted. I won't say accepted. Sometimes it seeps into our subconscious that we are less than, not as good as. This is what has been told to us. This is what has been preached to us for centuries. I'm trying to rewrite that narrative. I'm trying to deprogram and reprogram our own people to understand that there's greatness in our DNA. It's literal greatness. In the DNA that walked on that Runway. When you see Malcolm and Martin's daughters walk on that Runway together, that DNA is something that has moved mountains, that has changed lives. You know what I'm saying? And that exists within all of us. So. So it was important for our people to see that, to know that we are more than just our trauma. You know what I mean? We have so much greatness inside of us, and if we start acting out of that greatness, that's how we can change things for our community.
Angela Yee
How difficult was it getting everybody? And how long did it take?
Lanny Smith
Man, it was stressful. 1. There was a white supremacist who was killed by another white man about a week before our show. And.
DJ Envy
Hello, Charlie Kirk. Yeah, yeah.
Lanny Smith
And. And it sent some shockwaves through our plans, because you're talking about children of people who were assassinated. Real political violence. And so I had to reconvince Eliasa Shabazz and Dr. King to still be a part of this show. There were some safety concerns. We had to bring in three extra teams of security just to make sure that they were secure, because the rhetoric was that there was going to be payback, which never made sense to me because it was a white man that killed him. You know what I mean? But I think the reason why I was able to execute on that was the respect that I had paid to these individuals before. Everyone you see up here, Dr. King, Dr. Elias Shabazz, I went to them and asked them for permission to put their family members on this gear. I have licensing agreements with them so that when we sell apparel, the Black Panther Party Museum gets money. Fred Hampton, the Hampton House gets money. Cecil Williams Museum gets money. Right. The Shabazz center, the King center, actively black pays them when we sell this merch. And so, you know, you can go on any market on any weekend, and you'll see a lot of us selling this stuff, not realizing these people actually lost people in this struggle and they weren't compensated.
Janelle
Right?
Lanny Smith
And so I think I earned a level of respect with them that when I made that call and I asked them, can you walk on this Runway for me? They answered the call. And I feel so humbled. I mean, Dr. King, when she arrived, she gave me a signed speech from her father, and she prayed with me, and I broke down and cried, you know what I mean? Like, her schedule is crazy for her to move around, her travel schedule to be there for this show is something I'm forever grateful for.
Angela Yee
Did y' all have any concerns, any.
Lanny Smith
Security concerns at all my man Kanan made sure we were good with the security. We weren't gonna let nobody even get close to touching. You know, this royalty.
DJ Envy
Yeah.
Janelle
What does it mean to be actively black?
Lanny Smith
That's such a layered question. And there's a reason why I named it that you gotta understand. When I was starting actively black, by the way, we'll celebrate five years this Black Friday. We launched on Black Friday 2020.
DJ Envy
I had a lot of black people.
Lanny Smith
Tell me, don't name the company actively black. I had black executives tell me, if you put black in this name, it will not be successful. And I realized that a lot of them were speaking from a place of fear of working in corporate environments where they had to minimize who they were in their identity. And so there's nothing passive about what we have to do to uplift our people. Right. So it's a double entendre. I want our people to be more healthy. We do free mental health events. We do physical activations where we're having people do yoga, sound bath, meditation. We're getting our people access to the things that they need so that we can keep moving. That's the only way the movement can keep going is if we're healthy enough to keep moving.
Mimi Brown
Right.
Lanny Smith
So it's a double entendre. We're activewear brand, you know, there's no reason why we shouldn't have our own Nike. That's what actively black is. When we build this multi billion dollar brand, it's. It's not for my personal wealth. It's for us to uplift our people.
DJ Envy
Activelyblack.com I want, I want a brother, Cecil Sister Frederica. Give him the. The museum websites.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
DJ Envy
So people can donate. Well, you can go to Cecil Williams Muse. I'm sorry, South Carolina Civil Rights Museum. But we also have a way of like PayPal and the email address there and several other ways, but we're easy to find. We're again in a college town of Orange Break, South Carolina, and we need your support. Even dollars. One dollar helps. So please support us. That's right. Got a few part gifts.
Lanny Smith
I want to make sure you get this and then. And then. So Fred, you could close us out. Make sure you got that.
DJ Envy
What's the museum on?
Janelle
Instagram is at the Black Panther Party Museum and the Dr. Huey P. Newton foundation celebrating 30 years this year. Please come visit us in Oakland, California Black Panther Party Museum. We're open. I mean we're. And we're packed too. So this month celebrates the Black Panther Party history Month. And we're full of celebrations, so please visit us there. Thank you.
Charlamagne Tha God
Also I'm on. Thank you all for having us here. Salute to our fellow panelists. Clinch fit. Salute to actively black December 4th International Revolutionary Day. Come to Chicago. Also the Hampton House.org we get programs going to childhood home achievement. Fred Hampton, Maywood, IL Again HamptonHouse.org I want to close out this quote by Minister Dr. Uep Newton. A pitch is worth a thousand words, but action is supreme.
DJ Envy
There you have it Right.
Angela Yee
Well, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Charlamagne Tha God
Thank you guys.
Janelle
Thank you so much.
Charlamagne Tha God
The Breakfast Club.
Angela Yee
Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Shawl and ain't the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. It's time for pass the oaks.
DJ Envy
Yeah, dj, come spin now. Come spin.
Angela Yee
What's up, Nyla?
DJ Envy
Nyla.
Mimi Brown
Hey.
DJ Envy
Hey, girl.
Janelle
How are you? Good, good. All is well?
Angela Yee
Yep, absolutely.
DJ Envy
How you doing, Nyla Simone?
Janelle
Man, I'm good.
DJ Envy
Oh, you got the certified fresh. Okay.
Janelle
You know we got some new merch.
Mimi Brown
Okay.
Janelle
I haven't started selling yet. I'm just gonna give it to my friends. But. Yeah, where mine at? Coming soon, huh? Where mine? Since you gonna give it to your friends right here in the bay.
DJ Envy
Okay, great.
Janelle
She's lying. That's nice. I know you are.
DJ Envy
Oh, you did bring it.
Janelle
All right, I know we just did Monaleo and you guys just had her up here, but this other song that she put out called putting you down is really growing.
DJ Envy
Oh, I see that all over social media.
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay.
Mimi Brown
Yeah, let's get into it.
DJ Envy
I, I saw her performing that record in front of a big ass crowd and they knew the words word for word. And this song just came up.
Angela Yee
That's dope.
Janelle
Her fan base is definitely. They love her. Yeah, I could, I don't know why I hear why I could hear a guy on a remix. I don't know who voice I'm hearing, but it's like it could be somebody could come and do a remix today. Like a guy could jump on that. It's somebody deep, raspy, crazy voice. I couldn't hear a guy. A guy doesn't come to mind. But I definitely hear Glorilla.
DJ Envy
I definitely hear Glorilla. I definitely hear big gorilla.
Janelle
Somebody with a deep voice. Yeah, like just somebody. But I heard a guy. But boss man, somebody like that.
Mimi Brown
Oh, oh.
Janelle
What's up, Rob? Somebody, like somebody with a deep voice could come and kill that remix. But yeah, I love Mona Leo and the new project. She got out, so.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
Janelle
And she all tours and make sure you guys Check her out. Next, I'm gonna go with Josh Levi. He just dropped his debut album, which has been anticipated for a long time. This record is called Feel the Bass. I like that.
DJ Envy
I like that.
Janelle
I do like that. Dated.
DJ Envy
Yeah. It don't sound like some old Travis.
Angela Yee
Scott, all the sound effects and all that. Yeah, I still sound good, though. Well, sound like Fiend a little bit.
DJ Envy
Fiend. Fiend.
Angela Yee
That's what sound like the song.
DJ Envy
Yeah, yeah, it's lit. Like, it just. It's a cool record. It just sound like it should have been out three, four.
Janelle
Well, you know, he's a R B singer, and it's called Hydraulic, so it's all in theme. So it all supposed to sound a little robotic, like. Yeah, I do like that. He's a car.
DJ Envy
He's more than meety. All right.
Angela Yee
I don't know why you take him serious.
DJ Envy
Autobot or Decepticon? What is he?
Janelle
Come on. It's very clean. I do like it, though.
Angela Yee
I like it, though.
Janelle
Okay, cool. And he also has a record on there with Flo that's really good. But if you're a fan of, like, R B, he dances, you know, and he's from Houston too. He went to the same school, high school, as Beyonce.
DJ Envy
Okay.
Janelle
You know, maybe it's something in the water over there, but, you know, Leon Thomas just dropped a project today, and it's a little more funky than the last one, but let's get into just how you are.
DJ Envy
That boy Leon, I love it. That boy Leon.
Janelle
Now, it don't even sound like nothing that he already got out. That boy Leon is giving Bruno Mars a little bit.
DJ Envy
Leon different.
Janelle
I love that.
DJ Envy
That boy Leon different. Now. Leon different.
Janelle
Okay, that one was unanimous. I can't do that.
DJ Envy
Leon different. That's hard. That's tough. Tough.
Janelle
All right, this is my last one. This is a smaller group. They're from Canada. They're called Planet Gizza, and they dropping a new project. This song is called Minding My Business. See, I'm a stoner and a viber, so I love that. So you felt that okay, all day.
DJ Envy
It's tender. Yeah.
Angela Yee
I didn't.
DJ Envy
It's like light snow on a Care Bear. You know what I'm saying?
Angela Yee
What?
DJ Envy
What? What's them little things that the kids was carrying around the other day? It's not like a little. Like a little boo Boo in the snow and it just start to start to snow a little bit like the little boo Boo just sitting out there in the snows on it. I don't know we don't feel like that.
Janelle
Light snow on a camera.
DJ Envy
No light snow on a little boo Boo. That's what it feels like.
Janelle
I don't only like the music. I like what he's saying too.
Angela Yee
Maybe for the first record. I didn't want to hear that for the first record. Maybe I want to hear something else.
DJ Envy
For the first record.
Angela Yee
Better the first time you're introducing it.
Janelle
To us, playing against it before you put me on the plane together before. Yeah, I like them.
DJ Envy
I like gizzards, though.
Angela Yee
No, not gizzards.
Janelle
Is it gza? Oh, G I Z A.
DJ Envy
Okay. Yeah, yeah.
Janelle
This whole project is kind of mellow like that, so that's probably their most upbeat record. I like that.
Angela Yee
Yeah.
DJ Envy
That should be a cover. The COVID should be a Labubu with light snow. Just light snow just coming down on the little.
Janelle
Well, if you like what you heard, make sure you guys follow me on Instagram at nylast. Simone. N Y L A S Y M O N E E E Click the link in bio. There's multiple playlists there, but the ones for Breakfast Club picks are called certified. So make sure you guys check that out and then, yeah, Certified merch on the way.
DJ Envy
Fire. All right. It is.
Janelle
Thank you, girl. I love it.
Angela Yee
Now, before we get to the mix, I'm about to get to the mix. No Limit for Cash Money. Who you going with?
Mimi Brown
I got to go.
Janelle
Cash money.
Angela Yee
Cash money.
Janelle
But it's not going to be a. Like a blowout, no way.
DJ Envy
It's going to be great. It's going to be a great nostalgic thing, but it's. I mean, it's cash money. And I love no limit, but it's cash money. I was in the gym. I was in the gym yesterday, working out, playing the records back to back. And I love cash money. Got some joints. I was doing the no limit. Got some joints, but it's cash money.
Angela Yee
And you know, the problem is, no disrespect, but no Limit is more our error than a lot of everybody else a little older. So like the man right here absolutely.
DJ Envy
Down for my no limited soldiers. Down.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
DJ Envy
No Mystical. Got about three you can play. Shake that ass. The. The man right here. Danger, danger. Like they. Like they got joints. It ain't my fault. Still the shocking. They got joints. But I mean, yo, I can. I can play six juvenile records. Yes. Yeah, yeah, that's cool.
Angela Yee
Slow motion, high back that. I mean, there's so many.
Janelle
For me, it's not even gonna be a verse. It's gonna Be a concert.
Angela Yee
It's gonna be a concert.
Janelle
It's like, yo, I think that's what it is gonna be for most people, like, especially my age and up. It's like, yo, it's gonna be more of a concert. Yeah, I love all of them. I don't really have no dog in a fight.
Angela Yee
Well, let's get to the mix. It's the Breakfast Club.
DJ Envy
Good morning, everybody.
Angela Yee
It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. A salute again to all the HBCU homecomings. This is my homecoming week in Hampton University. I know how Howard has a homecoming. Norfolk State, Old Dominion. A bunch of HBCUs. Old Dominions. Not HBCU, but a bunch of colleges. So salute to everybody. You guys enjoy the weekend, and then I'm going to Dominica.
Janelle
I know. That's right.
Angela Yee
The island of Dominican. The Caribbean island. I'm excited. I can't wait to see all my Dominicans.
DJ Envy
It's the best time you embrace your Dominican roots.
Angela Yee
Yeah. So I'm going out there. I got all names of of my dad's dads, my dad's dad's brother, my dad's dad, my dad's family. My dad really messed with his dad because it kind of was Rolling Stone. But, yeah, I'm go down there and see what's up.
DJ Envy
So I'm just crazy how all of a sudden you want to be Dominican, bro.
Angela Yee
I'm not Dominican.
DJ Envy
It's from the island of Dominican. Any other time I bring it up, you're like, I'm not Dominican. I'm a Dominican. But when it comes to a paycheck, are you being at some parade getting an award for pretending to be Dominican? You there, It's Dominica.
Angela Yee
It's Dominica. So salute. And I'm going to where you say go.
Janelle
The Indian river, where they filmed the Pirates of the Caribbean.
Angela Yee
That's right. That's what I'm going.
Janelle
Do you know your most popular sport over there? You need to know cricket.
Angela Yee
Yes, I knew that.
DJ Envy
Cricket.
Janelle
That's what's envy. All right, you almost there?
Angela Yee
All right, all right. And what are you doing this weekend?
Janelle
I'm going to be in Philly, but for Halloween, that's next weekend, North Carolina. I will be there. Charlotte, get your Tickets. We got four shows next weekend at the Comedy Zone. Jessalarisofficial.com I will be giving away a cash prize to the person who wins the Halloween costume contest. Lord, my voice is so shy today, but I can't wait to get there. Two shows Friday, two shows Saturday. Jessalari's official official dot com. Do not forget to get your tickets because y' all got seven more days now.
Angela Yee
Charlamagne, you heading to South Carolina?
DJ Envy
Yes, man. Today I will be in the metro. It is the University of South Carolina's homecoming. That's my wife's alma mater and they play Alabama tomorrow. But today we will be at the Colonial Life arena at 4:30pm Don Staley, the icon living. She put out her book earlier this year, uncommon Favorite on my book imprint Black Privilege Publishing with Simon and Schuster. It's been on the New York Times bestsellers list for weeks. So I am moderating a book conversation with her today at the Colonial Life Arena. And the four time mvp, three time WNBA champion, greatest women's basketball player in the world, just got inducted into the South Carolina hall of Fame last night. Aja Wilson, she will be joining us. So I will be in conversation with both of them today at the Colonial Life Arena. Salute to everybody who's already gotten their tickets. If you haven't gotten your tickets, I think there's some tickets left. So we'll see you this afternoon.
Angela Yee
All right. You got a positive note?
DJ Envy
I do. The positive note is simple. It comes from the great Michelle Obama. Michelle Obama once said, success isn't about how your life looks to others, it's about how it feels to you. Always remember that success is subjective. Okay. Success isn't about how your life looks to others others. It's about how it feels to you. If you are happy doing what you are doing, then you are successful. Have a great day. Breakfast Club.
Angela Yee
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DJ Envy
It's the true story of the almost.
Angela Yee
Perfect crime and the nimrods who almost pulled it off.
DJ Envy
It was kind of like the perfect storm in a sewer. That was dumb. Do not follow my example.
Angela Yee
Listen to Crimeless Hillbilly Heist on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.
Mimi Brown
The murder of an 18 year old girl in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved for years until a local housewife, a journey journalist and a handful of girls came forward with a story.
Charlamagne Tha God
America, y' all better wake the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns.
Mimi Brown
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Janelle
Short on time but big on true crime.
Mimi Brown
On a recent episode of the podcast Hunting for Answers, I highlighted the story of 19 year old Lachey Dungey.
Janelle
But she never knocked on that door. She never made it inside.
Mimi Brown
And that text message would be the.
Janelle
Last time anyone would ever hear from her.
Mimi Brown
Listen to Hunting for Answers from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio.
Janelle
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Mimi Brown
Welcome to our new podcast Be My Betty.
DJ Envy
Yay.
Janelle
We're re watching the series from start to finish and talking to iconic guests like Betty herself. America for Herrera. There was this moment when the glasses went on and it was like this is our Betty. Listen to Viva Betty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an iHeart podcast.
Date: October 24, 2025
Hosts: DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God
Podcast: The Breakfast Club by iHeartPodcasts
Headline Guests: Reuben Vincent, 9th Wonder, Lanny Smith, Cecil Williams, Fredrika Newton, Fred Hampton Jr.
Key Theme: Legacy, Black excellence, and high-profile sports & culture headlines—including the NBA gambling scandal and intergenerational connections in hip hop and activism.
This dynamic episode of The Breakfast Club blends breaking news, in-depth interviews, and lively culture commentary. The show delivers a powerful mix of political issues (from government shutdowns to Trump administration controversies), coverage of the shocking NBA illegal gambling scandal, and moving conversations with icons of Black legacy in music, fashion, and activism.
A central highlight is the discussion around legacy—musical, cultural, and historical—with both up-and-coming and legendary voices sharing wisdom and experiences. The show also spotlights the impact of criminal justice stories and economic shifts, while never losing its playful and irreverent spirit.
Homecoming Season: Celebrations at HBCUs across the country, with personal shout-outs to alumni and upcoming events.
DJ Envy to Moderate Conversation with Dawn Staley: On her bestselling book, with special guest A’ja Wilson (05:37).
Government Shutdown & Federal Worker Pay Crisis:
Steve Bannon’s “Trump 2028/Third Term” Comments: Legal, political, and constitutional implications discussed (36:33).
Target Job Cuts and Toys R Us Resurgence: Economic shakeups, layoffs at Target, and nostalgia (and jobs) at Toys R Us reopening (40:22).
Lanny Smith (founder of Actively Black) is joined by civil rights and Black Panther icons: Cecil Williams, Fredrika Newton (widow of Huey P. Newton), and Fred Hampton Jr. for a stirring discussion.
The segment highlights their involvement in Actively Black’s monumental New York Fashion Week show featuring civil rights leaders’ children as models—emphasizing intergenerational Black greatness.
Cecil Williams: Shares the backstory of the famous “whites only” water fountain photo, his personal resistance, and nuanced views on racism and white allies.
Fred Hampton Jr.: On love motivating revolution, not hate.
Fredrika Newton: On eradicating white supremacy, growing up biracial, and the Black Panther Party’s foundation in love, not hate.
Actively Black’s Mission: Reshaping narratives of Black worth and legacy through economic empowerment and historical reverence.
On Black Resilience & Legacy:
“We are more than just our trauma... we have so much greatness inside of us, and if we start acting out of that greatness, that’s how we can change things.” (106:38, Lanny Smith)
On Culture & Music:
“We cannot abandon who got us here and who continues to still do music. It's up to us. We cannot wait on anybody else to do it but us.” (67:23, 9th Wonder)
On Judgement & Scandal:
“Why can't we just let things play out? ...I thought it was innocent until proven guilty, which is what they said multiple times at the press conference as well.” (78:42 & 79:00, DJ Envy & Janelle)
Fred Hampton Jr. on Revolutionary Love:
“A revolutionary—no matter how preposterous it may sound—is guided by the most sincere sentiments of love... motivated for love for people.” (104:25, Fred Hampton Jr.)
Cecil Williams on His Iconic Defiance & The Power of Photos:
“It was a little bit of both. I was thirsty, but also...I was not satisfied with living in the status quo in segregation.” (99:20, Cecil Williams)
True to The Breakfast Club’s brand: blunt, irreverent, insightful, and celebratory, balancing humor with cultural seriousness. The hosts offer knowledgeable, intergenerational perspectives—with a focus on Black empowerment, resilience, and maintaining community through music, legacy, and political self-awareness.
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