FULL SHOW: Sheryl Underwood Defends Inappropriate Jokes At Kevin Hart Roast + Dr. Cheyenne Bryant Interview

Summary

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The Breakfast Club – May 12, 2026

FULL SHOW: Sheryl Underwood Defends Inappropriate Jokes At Kevin Hart Roast + Dr. Cheyenne Bryant Interview

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Episode Overview

In this wide-ranging episode, The Breakfast Club dives into the ongoing fallout from Kevin Hart's Netflix comedy roast, with both cultural and ethical debates about comedy’s boundaries. Sheryl Underwood’s defense of controversial roast material is dissected alongside public outrage, including concerns from George Floyd’s family over jokes referencing his death. The hosts also deliver robust interviews—most notably with Dr. Cheyenne Bryant, who addresses questions about her credentials, approach to therapy, and new book, Live Your Promise. In addition, front-page news covers politics, policy, and pop culture updates—plus a spotlight on Newark Mayor Ras Baraka’s re-election campaign.

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Key Segments and Discussion Points

1. Kevin Hart’s Roast & The Comedy Debate

Segment starts ~[02:22], main discussion resumes at [23:30] and [84:01]

- Jess Hilarious Recaps Hosting the Roast

• Jess hosted the Kevin Hart roast’s red carpet and notes LA was “cool but the roast ain’t for everybody.” ([03:23])
• Comparison to Tom Brady roast: Jess: "They went a lot lighter compared to what they did [for Kevin Hart].” ([03:36])

- Sheryl Underwood and Pushback on Offensive Jokes

• Sheryl Underwood’s Interview:

  • She tells TMZ: “True roast comedy…is not for mainstream domain…Sometimes political correctness does not fit in comedy.” ([24:11])
  • Underwood defends her own tolerance for jokes about her late husband's suicide, stating she approved such jokes beforehand. ([25:18], [28:39])

• Backlash Over Tony Hinchcliffe’s Joke ([26:35], [84:19]):

  • Tony made a joke about George Floyd “looking up at us all…can’t breathe,” sparking immediate discomfort both in the room and online.
  • Just Hilarious: “He never came up for air…whole room quiet. I don’t know if they edited laughs in there, but the whole room was quiet.” ([27:25])
  • Charlamagne: “There’s no humor in that…Jokes about people dying violent, tragic deaths should be off limits.” ([27:12–27:43], [84:55])

• Family and Cultural Response

  • Travis Keynes, spokesperson for George Floyd’s foundation: “The family is baffled and disgusted by Tony's apparent obsession with telling George Floyd jokes...sad for the culture.” ([28:01], [86:19])

• Broader Debate

  • Just Hilarious points out other edgy roast content, including repeated racial jokes and remarks about Cheryl Underwood, Pete Davidson, and even lynching. ([95:37])
  • Charlamagne: “You always gonna have to deal with the consequences of your words…Free speech is not free.” ([31:00])
  • Discussion of “who gets to joke about what” continues, with strong lines drawn between jokes about present company (e.g., Cheryl, Pete Davidson) vs. unrelated figures like George Floyd.

• Memorable Exchange

  • Jess: “If you make something funny, it don't matter how offending it is. Like, if it's funny, it's comedy. It works.” ([25:01])
  • Charlamagne counters: “I just don't see the humor in joking about somebody's death…violent, tragic, like George Floyd..." ([96:05])

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2. Front Page News & Hot Topics

Starts at [07:34], politics/economics repeated at [33:27] and [39:04]

- Supreme Court Redistricting Rulings

• Mimi Brown explains how recent Supreme Court decisions could impact Black voting power in Alabama and Virginia.
• Alabama State Rep. Wandalyn Given: “This whole process is about race. If it were not about race, why change the maps?” ([09:17])

- Gas Price Crisis

• Callers vent about soaring fuel costs ([12:06])
• DJ Envy jokes: “I'm the king of $40 on my gas tank and right now 40 ain't getting me.” ([35:16])
• Trump proposes suspending federal gas tax (saves about $2-3 per fill-up); needs Congressional approval. ([34:15])

- USPS Gun Shipping Proposal

• Mimi Brown: “Postal Service wants to allow people to legally mail handguns for the first time in nearly 100 years.” ([36:58])
• Mixed reactions from hosts—safety concerns vs. ‘Second Amendment victory’ per NRA. ([38:41])

- New Credit Rules for Homebuyers

• Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac may weigh rent payments toward mortgage qualification. ([39:04])

- Entertainment & Late Night Updates

• Lauren LaRosa details Kendrick Lamar v. Drake beef spillage into streaming platforms, with hacked/removed albums/videos causing uproar. ([71:31])
• Byron Allen buys BuzzFeed, expands Black media footprint. Comics Unleashed to replace Colbert late-night slot. ([74:48])

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3. Interview: Dr. Cheyenne Bryant on Therapy, Credentials, and Her New Book

From [40:11]–[66:19]

- Addressing Criticism & Credentials

• Dr. Bryant responds to online questions about her status as a "real doctor":

  • “I have four academic degrees...There’s two honorary doctorates. One is in behavioral science…[but] I have an earned doctorate.” ([49:28], [49:51])
  • She explains “working under a license” means working under a supervisor as required for clinical hours, which she’s done. ([49:51])
  • “My goal was never…to obtain licensing. I did not go to college and say I want to become a licensed therapist.” ([51:07])

• Her Approach to Therapy

  • Bryant emphasizes her preference for being a life coach: “As a life coach, I'm very loving, I'm very nurturing. I hug, I say, I love you. Have a good day. At the end of our sessions. And those small things…have been life changing for my clients.” ([53:20])

• On Critics and ‘Pretty Privilege / Pretty Punishment’

  • “There's pretty privilege and…pretty punishment. I didn't really understand that term until I got into my field…” ([45:43])
  • “People literally pay for the kind of Internet attention I get. They create storylines for the attention and the virality...I just show up and be me.” ([42:54])

• Responding to “You’re Not Married, So…” Critique

  • “I do not teach people how to be married...I teach you how to process through your trauma so you don’t bleed on your wife.” ([58:11], [58:49])

• Memorable Quote

  • “We all have our village and our job is to cater to, love and nurture our village…Once you start going outside of that, then you have to spend your whole life trying to make sure these people continuously like you.” ([41:45])

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4. Donkey of the Day

Charlamagne at [77:31]

• Dalton “Chud the Builder” Eitherly is given Donkey of the Day for his racist trolling in Nashville, hurling slurs, then playing victim when confronted.
  • “We got to stop letting the CEOs of unseasoned chicken get off like this...If you campaign, you will get elected. And you, sir, are running a hell of a campaign.” ([82:11])

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5. Mayor Ras Baraka Interview: Newark Progress & Urban Challenges

[107:31]

• Baraka (running for 4th Newark term) outlines development goals: expanding affordable housing, creating walkable bridges, responding to food deserts, and fighting persistent negative Newark stereotypes.
• Discusses civic education: “We have to learn civics…All people know is the mayor, the governor, and the president...We have to figure that out, and it means we have to vote in every election.” ([112:40])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Insensitive Comedy:

  • “Personally, my spirit doesn’t agree with joking on violent, tragic death....If somebody’s making jokes about your [deceased] family member, you’d be ready to fight.”
    — Charlamagne Tha God ([88:47])

• On Her Critics:

  • “You can't have what God has given me. You couldn’t ride in this lane if I gave you the opportunity to.”
    — Dr. Cheyenne Bryant ([58:11])

• On Roasts and Consequences:

  • “You always gonna have to deal with the consequences of your words...Free speech is not free.”
    — Charlamagne Tha God ([31:00])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [02:22] – Kevin Hart Roast initial reactions
• [23:30] – Roast fallout: Sheryl Underwood & Tony Hinchcliffe controversy
• [26:35] – Tony Hinchcliffe’s George Floyd joke discussed
• [34:15] – Gas prices & Trump’s proposed tax suspension
• [36:58] – USPS gun shipping controversy
• [40:11] – Dr. Cheyenne Bryant interview begins
• [49:28], [49:51], [51:07] – Bryant's academic credentials explained
• [84:01] – Topic time: Should tragedy/violent death be off-limits for comedy?
• [95:37] – Discussion of additional racial and violent jokes from the roast
• [107:31] – Mayor Ras Baraka interview: Newark’s progress

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Episode Tone

• Lively and candid as always, blending serious cultural debates with humor and unfiltered commentary. Hosts remain skeptical of authorities, but also protective of community values, especially regarding race, trauma, and respect for the deceased. Guests’ voices are given space for direct responses, and callers contribute real-time perspectives.

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This summary is designed for listeners who missed the episode but want a comprehensive understanding of every major topic, memorable quote, and cultural moment discussed on The Breakfast Club, May 12, 2026.

Transcript

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[DJ Envy]

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[Just Hilarious]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Lovey]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, Charlemagne. Okay, let's start over, because Envy just walked in the room. Okay, from the top, from the top.

[Just Hilarious]

Good morning.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Hey, guys.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Lovey]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Lovey]

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[DJ Envy]

Yes. Hilarious.

[Just Hilarious]

Wake that ass up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Charlemagne, the gold. Peace to the planet. It's Tuesday. How y' all feel out there? I feel blessed, black and highly favored. Happy to be here another day to serve our beautiful listeners. Good morning.

[DJ Envy]

Good morning. How y' all feeling? How you feeling, Jess? Welcome back.

[Just Hilarious]

Feeling good. Thank you. I feel good.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How was la?

[Just Hilarious]

LA was cool. The roast ain't for everybody, but LA was cool. I got to meet a lot of big stars. Some of your favorite comedians, athletes. I hosted the red carpet for Kevin Hart's roast. Man, they came in there ready.

[DJ Envy]

I seen.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yo.

[Just Hilarious]

It was like. Like, now I saw the Tom Brady roast, and I thought that was. They went a lot lighter compared to what they did.

[DJ Envy]

Hell, no.

[Just Hilarious]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Tom Brady rose was nuts.

[Just Hilarious]

Yeah, it was nuts.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Tom Brady roast set the tone and put the bar for where it is.

[Just Hilarious]

Yeah. I appreciate everybody opinion. My opinion is different. But they had billboards all over la, right? Like, Roasting Kevin. Like, the Jumanji one. It was a Jumanji billboard, and it was like, his money must be running out. Like, you know, the city was making it seem like he was broke. I mean, I know it was all, you know, jokes and laughs and everything.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They.

[Just Hilarious]

They prep for this. Like, they spent a bunch of money in promotion for this.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, well, I mean, it was huge. So many people watch. I wonder how many people actually watched it, because it was.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It was. I'm sure we'll find out today.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, it was hilarious.

[Just Hilarious]

Now, watching it on tv, yeah, that's different from being in the room.

[Caller or Listener]

Room.

[Just Hilarious]

It was a little crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, Tom Brady, actually, he was the executive producer of Kevin Hartroast.

[DJ Envy]

Was he?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I thought he created. I'm not. Cause he created the template, but I guess when they wanted to do the roasting, being that he was the first one. He's the executive producer. All of them.

[DJ Envy]

I got you.

[Just Hilarious]

I thought he did good when he came out, too. Yeah. I like how he opened it up before Shane got on, but. Yeah, I mean, we'll talk about it some more.

[DJ Envy]

All right. What up, Charlotte?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. Hi.

[DJ Envy]

How you doing?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm great, man.

[DJ Envy]

Hello. Good morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm great.

[DJ Envy]

All right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yesterday was a good day. Yesterday was the 93rd born day of the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan?

[DJ Envy]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He turned 93 yesterday.

[DJ Envy]

God bless.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So I went to. I went. I went out, went out there. He had a little anniversary. He had a causes a birthday anniversary yesterday.

[DJ Envy]

Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I went to it.

[Caller or Listener]

All right.

[DJ Envy]

Yes, that's dope.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. To go see the minister.

[DJ Envy]

All right. Happy birthday to the minister. Now let's get the show cracking. Dr. Cheyenne Bryant will be joining us this week.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, my God. How was that?

[DJ Envy]

Oh, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She got a new book out, Live your Promise.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, she answered a lot of questions. She answered every question that was thrown at her because, you know, people have really been. I don't want to say other therapists.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[DJ Envy]

Other psychologists, other doctors have been going at her and say, we need to see the Carfax. We need to see if. If you really went to school, if you really got the accreditations, if you really a doctor, if it wasn't honorary, like Charlamagne. So if it was earned. So we went, we went. You know, we asked a lot and she, she explained a lot. And we kept going back and forth and we got to the bottom of it finally.

[Just Hilarious]

But like, why, why is that like the biggest thing? Is she not a real doctor? Now there's a whole bunch of fake doctors running around.

[DJ Envy]

Well, she is a real doctor.

[Just Hilarious]

Oh, right.

[DJ Envy]

But she breaks it down what, what that means for her, how she helped people and the fact that she had to. Well, she'll talk about how she had to study under a license and all that other stuff, practice under a license. So she breaks it down in layman's terms. So everybod. And she has a new book, Live youe Promise, out today. And also the Mayor of Newark, Ras Baraka will be joining us this morning. He's running today for his fourth term of mayor of Newark. So we'll be talking to him in a little bit as well. But let's get the show cracking. Mimi has front page news. She's here as well, too. What's up, Mimi? It's Big X to Plugs. The Breakfast Club. Come on, let's go.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Happy birthday.

[DJ Envy]

Big X the Plug.

[Just Hilarious]

Salute.

[DJ Envy]

The Big X to Plug.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Happy birthday.

[Lovey]

Big X birthday.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

He's 28 years old today.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn. That's it. That man got an old soul.

[Lovey]

Damn.

[Just Hilarious]

Big ass baby. I ain't know he was 28.

[DJ Envy]

Salute to Big X to Plug. But morning, everybody. We ought Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page news. Last night the Cavaliers beat the Pistons. 112. 103. And OKC sent the Lakers home 115, 110. Now people are asking, is LeBron going to come back for year 24? Is, is he's a free agent? Is he going to move on to another team? So people are discussing. I, I'm sure we'll find out that information in a little bit.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Last year, I said he should have went to the Cavs, he should have went to the Cavs, he'd still be playing right now.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, but if he went to the Cavs, James Harden wouldn't have went to the Cavs. And I don't know if the team would have beat.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Cavs was solid before James Harden.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, but James Harden made the best

[Charlamagne Tha God]

record in the east the year before James.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, but can they afford James Harden and LeBron James?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think James Harden was a trade, wasn't he? I'm not making.

[Caller or Listener]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Oh. Anyway, what's up, Mimi? Knicks and my team, I stay in my Knicks business. What's up, Mimi?

[Mimi Brown]

Good morning, Amy. Good morning, everyone. How y' all doing this morning?

[Just Hilarious]

Good morning, Mimi.

[Mimi Brown]

Good morning. Okay, so we start this morning in Alabama for the Supreme Court has cleared a way for the state to move closer to using a congressional map civil rights groups say weakens black voting power. Now, we've been talking about this a lot because it's going on a lot in the south. And this, this vote, just like every other vote in the south, could have far implications beyond Alabama. So about what 1 in 4 Alabamians is black. Civil rights groups have argued that black voters should have meaningful voting power in at least two of the states, seven congressional districts. But Alabama Republicans, they have fought to keep it just one minority black district. And now the Supreme Court is giving Alabama another chance. So the justices, they sent the case back to a lower court to consider using a legal standard that the court said weeks ago in that Louisiana case that we talked about last week. Now, that's the ruling that weakened part of the Voting Rights Act. So Alabama is now arguing that it prefer its preferred map should move forward. And the Supreme Court agrees that it deserves another look. Now, Republicans, they insist that this fight is not about race, arguing that the court is simply returning power back to the state. Here is Alabama Attorney General Steve Marshall.

[DJ Envy]

We now have the ability to do

[Charlamagne Tha God]

what we've long argued we should be able to do, and that is draw maps consistent with traditional redistricting principles and not allow race to be a predominant

[DJ Envy]

factor or a factor in how those are drawn.

[Mimi Brown]

Well, critics, they say it's very, it's something very different. Alabama State Representative Wandalyn Given. She's a Democrat from Birmingham and one of the most outspoken voices about these maps. She says that it has always been about race. Let's listen.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Listen. If it wasn't about race, let me

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

tell you something about my Republican, my raggedy Republican colleagues who continue to want

[Lauren LaRosa]

to live in a society in which they don't want to be labeled as racist. But that is what they are. This whole process is about race. If it were not about race, why change the maps?

[Mimi Brown]

All right. Well, this case now heads back to a lower federal court in Alabama. But this time, justices, the judges, they will have to apply the Supreme Court's newer, weaker voting rights standard. Alabama has already delayed its primary election, which was set for next Tuesday, to buy more time to finalize whichever congressional map survives this legal fight. And in Virginia, Democrats are now taking their redistricting fight to the US Supreme Court. After the state's highest court throughout a congressional map that could have helped Democrats gain four House seats. The Virginia Supreme Court ruled the process used to approve that map was legally flawed, saying that the constitutional amendment tied to these new districts was never, never properly put before the voters. Democrats, of course, they strongly disagree. And they argue that the voters, they already approved this measure. And they say that the court didn't just throw out a map, that it overthrew the rule of the people. Let's listen to Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio Cortez.

[DJ Envy]

You don't have that one.

[Mimi Brown]

You don't have that one. Okay. She's basically saying that in this election, what sets Virginia apart is that Virginia literally voted in an election. The legislatures did not create the map. The people went to the, to the polls and they voted for it. So for people to overturn this now doesn't make any sense because you are overthrowing the will of the people. And so Virginia's attorney general, they're now asking the US Supreme Court to step in and restore the map. And we will see what happens with that. So a lot of redistricting fighting still happening in the south and in Virginia's the South.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I feel like this is going to become the norm. You know what I mean? Like, the whole map redrawn is going to be the norm for a while.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah. Yeah, we'll see.

[Just Hilarious]

All right.

[Mimi Brown]

And coming up at 7, we're going to talk about maybe some possible relief at the pumpkin. President Trump is putting something in place that he says that he hopes will take some of the pressure off. When you go fill up at the tank.

[Just Hilarious]

Nice all right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What? Money. That's what people need.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah, well, it's not money, I'll tell you that.

[DJ Envy]

All right, well, everybody else, get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, phone lines are wide open again, 800-585-1051 is the breakfast Club. Good morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's a new day.

[DJ Envy]

This is your time to get it off your chest.

[Caller or Listener]

Wait.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wake up.

[DJ Envy]

Whether you're mad or blessed, time to get up and get something. Call up now. 800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club.

[Lovey]

Hello?

[DJ Envy]

Who's this?

[Caller or Listener]

Gary.

[DJ Envy]

Gary, what up? Get it off your chest. Gary.

[Caller or Listener]

Man, these gas prices are ridiculous, man. We got to do something about this. This Trump administration is absolutely horrible with these cash prices. I mean, gas is getting down here. Alabama is getting close to $5 a gallon, man. Just can't afford to live.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah. No, it's ridiculous.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And don't ever forget that he told you he was going to lower all prices on day one. On day one, he said he was going to make the economy better. He said he was going to make the grocery prices lower, the gas prices, everything. So that's what makes. That's what makes this even more egregious.

[Caller or Listener]

Right, right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And the fact. And the fact that gas prices are so high because we're in the water, we ain't got no business being in.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah. The gas prices don't seem like they're going down until they. Until they iron out everything they got to iron out. It ain't going on anywhere anytime soon.

[Caller or Listener]

Right, right. Well, man, I was just a blessing to get on the show with y', all, man. I've been listening to y' all for over 15 years, man. It's just a blessing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Charlamagne, keep doing what you're doing and appreciate you, brother.

[Caller or Listener]

I mean, I remember you with the. With the property management and everything, helping everybody earn houses and. And just you doing your thing, man. It's just a blessing to be on the show, man. I appreciate y'. All.

[Just Hilarious]

Appreciate you, King.

[DJ Envy]

Salute to you, Gary.

[Just Hilarious]

Thank you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hello?

[DJ Envy]

Who's this?

[Caller or Listener]

It's Tishy from Texas.

[DJ Envy]

Hey, Tisha from Texas.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Good morning.

[Caller or Listener]

Hey, I just wanted to say I loved the Arsenio hall book. I got it because Charlamagne was talking about it. I didn't want to put it down. I read it really, really fast at first, and then I started slowing down when it got thinner, and toward the end. It's so good.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It is. I Tell. You know, people think I'm biased because, you know, I published it. But, like, Arsenio's memoir is really one of the best entertainment memoirs I ever read.

[Caller or Listener]

It was the best one I had ever read. And I learned so much about him. His relationship with people like Jay Leno, the fire, everything. I could not imagine. All of the interpersonal relationships he talked about, found out about him and Johnny Gill being best friends, his relationship with Michael Jackson, his mama. I can't even begin to tell you how much I loved it. I even read the book. I got the audiobook, and I fell more in love with it. I walked like, four miles every morning. And that was my soothing walk thing. It was so good.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Caller or Listener]

own audiobook, too, and that's what made it great. And I wanted to say. I can't. My next purchase is going to be Jess. Book the audio, because I love her voice. Hey, Jess. I love your voice.

[DJ Envy]

Hey, sissy.

[Caller or Listener]

And I know that you're going to make me love it because of who you are. So that's on my next list. And I just wanted to let you know, Charlemagne, I appreciate the way you pour into people. You make them better than you found them, and I appreciate that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn. Thank you. Found him is crazy.

[DJ Envy]

That is crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I found him like y' all just on the side of the road. Where'd he find you?

[Just Hilarious]

Founding out miserable. I don't know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's crazy.

[Just Hilarious]

I don't know.

[DJ Envy]

Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need the event, hit us up now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. This is your time to get it off your chest. Keep calling 800-585-1051.

[Lovey]

We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club.

[DJ Envy]

Hello? Who's this?

[Caller or Listener]

Good morning, my Breakfast Club family. It's your boy Lovey from the Bronx. Hi, Jazz. Good morning, Charla.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Good morning, Envy.

[DJ Envy]

Peace.

[Caller or Listener]

I want to get off my chest this morning. First, I'm feeling blessed, black and highly favored as always. But I wanted to know, just like Charlamagne said, what is our defense against this red lining and Jim Crow Brother,

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I have no idea. I keep asking people smarter than me, and, you know, they be wanting to have phone calls and they be wanting to have meetings, but it doesn't seem like. It don't seem like folks have one.

[Caller or Listener]

We need to organize something. I would say to the college players that's playing for These red states, Alabama, the Arkansas, let's pull our college players, stop giving them money, stop kicking back to them. We got to do something.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You're not wrong, but, you know, I mean, you're not wrong. Somebody got to organize something. I mean, that. That's the craziest thing about all of this to me. Like, you know what the obvious offense is going to be, but there's never a defense prepared for it. And it always feels like, you know, they're scrambling after the fact that, yeah,

[Caller or Listener]

we got to be proactive, not reactive.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I completely agree, my brother. And my last thing I want to

[Caller or Listener]

get off, I. I'm still riding my Black Effect Festival high. If anybody has the. The video footage, please hit me up at L O V e y x l860BX. I want the footage of Charlemagne. And I'm shouting me out at the beginning. So if anybody has the footage, please hit me up. DM me. Inbox me. You heard Envy the 25th. Me and the kids are pulling up July 25th. We already put it on our calendar.

[DJ Envy]

That's right. The car show is going down in the 757, Hampton, Virginia, July 25. So if you haven't get your tickets, get your tickets. Car show, family reunion, kids 5 and under of free is going to be an amazing event. But, Lauren, don't you have footage when we first walked out on the stage and you were taping. Weren't you taping everybody when we first walked out at the Black Effect?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Sure I do.

[DJ Envy]

Lauren might have that video you're looking for, lovey.

[Caller or Listener]

Yes, Lauren. Can you put Lauren, or do I gotta call you Laureen? What's your name?

[Lauren LaRosa]

I got video of me and you when. When I. When I got the. When we was in, like, the audience part. I know that for sure.

[Caller or Listener]

Yes. Yes, what if you can, Lauren, if you can. It tells Taylor my love, too. Taylor, get better, baby.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Get better. What's wrong with Taylor?

[Just Hilarious]

I don't know.

[Caller or Listener]

Taylor had four poison in her tongue.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Taylor be wanting attention so bad, the

[DJ Envy]

other day she found a. A nut.

[Just Hilarious]

Oh, talking about the screw.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay. Yeah, her breakfast. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought she was at the Black Effect Festival telling people she got food poisoning for attention.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, my goodness. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. We got the latest Pop it Off.

[Caller or Listener]

Why?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You look like you just went through a wind tunnel.

[Lauren LaRosa]

First of all, because I have a windbreaker on.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, your hair.

[Just Hilarious]

I think your hair looks good.

[Lauren LaRosa]

They're still getting used to it. Yesterday they took Me because of my hair.

[DJ Envy]

All day when you left, she was like. She was like. Charlamagne said my face looked chubby.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I didn't say chubby. I said your face.

[Lauren LaRosa]

No, you told me my face looked fat.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, I did not. What I said was, your face looks swollen. And I said, you better not be playing with your face. I said, you better not be playing with your face. That's what I said.

[Lauren LaRosa]

First of all, I don't have that much.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And by playing with her face, I meant Botox and all that crazy. That's what I did.

[DJ Envy]

You said lip fillers. Botox.

[Lauren LaRosa]

We did curls on my hair, so it's a bit more off my face. And they're just getting used to it.

[Just Hilarious]

Damn, I like it. I feel like your face look fine and your hair grew out.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Relax a little bit, so now you can play a little bit with it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I mean?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Move it around. I really say I had to flip back, but yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You look disheveled, but it's okay. Happy Tuesday.

[DJ Envy]

Jesus Christ.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Good morning, y'.

[Caller or Listener]

All.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes. So we got the latest coming up. So we've been talking about the Kevin Hart roast, but now we got to talk about some of the jokes that people are pushing back on because Cheryl Underwood has come out and said some things, and so has George Floyd's family. So. All right, we're gonna get into it.

[DJ Envy]

We'll get into that next. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

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[DJ Envy]

Yo, what up, y'?

[Caller or Listener]

All?

[DJ Envy]

It's DJ Envy from the Breakfast Club. Now, Check this out. The first phone call that ever happened happened over 150 years ago. 150 years. That's before any of this. Before radio, before social media, before all the ways we stay connected. Today. That one call really started everything. And fast forward to now. It's springtime, the weather's breaking, people outside vibes are right again. Thank God. And it got me thinking, who haven't you talked to in a minute? And you know, through all these years and all these conversations, AT&T has been there, connecting people in meaningful ways. This is more than a story of technological innovation. It's really a story about human connection, real people, real moments and real relationships. So we celebrate over 150 years of connection. Let this be your reminder. Don't wait. Make that call, send that text, pull up on somebody you care about. Because at the end of the day, those connections, that's what really matters.

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[DJ Envy]

The latest with Lauren o' Neill on the Breakfast

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Talk to me.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

All right, y'.

[DJ Envy]

All.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So we've been talking a lot about Kevin Hart's roast. Just Hilarious was in LA at the roast. So I want to get into now Cheryl Underwood and a few people who've had some pushback or critique or just responses to the fact that people were upset about some of the jokes that were told on the stage. So Cheryl Underwood spoke to TMZ yesterday because there's been a big conversation about some of the jokes that were thrown her way about her husband's passing, his suicide, and then also some of the words that were used on stage. The Rock using the R word in specific. Specifically, let's take a word use. I'm not saying it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know. When you're talking about.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You use it all the time. You call it. You tell Envy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He's that, oh, little red retard.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, can't say that word.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So let's take a listen to Cheryl Underwood. True Roast comedy, it is not meant. It's not for mainstream domain. You're talking about Netflix. And I know people don't agree and to say, well, why would you use these words? But what I thought was good about what the Rock did, everybody was questioning his blackness and he really made the connection. It's a way for us to talk about the issues with humor and come to some common ground. Years ago, you couldn't say M word for little people, couldn't say R word for the disabled. I have a joke that I tell about my own sister. I tried to say disabled, but it does not work. Sometimes politically correctness does not fit in comedy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I didn't listen to the Rock speech and say to myself, you know what? That makes me think he's more black. I listened to the Rock speech and I thought to myself, hey, that's the Rock. Y' all must not remember how wild WWE used to be.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I said that. I said. I did. I didn't watch a lot of him on wwe.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That was the Rock. The Rock. That's how The Rock. That's the Rock. I know.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[Just Hilarious]

And I don't know why a lot of people was mad at. Well, I do know why a lot of people were mad at Cheryl Underwood's, like, back to back jokes about her husband. But she approved all of that. Like the, you know, like Shane and all of them. Like, they asked her if it was okay for them to do those jokes, and they had been testing them out the whole week, you know what I mean? So I did. I do thank Tony Hinchcliffe. Although his ish was racist, it was funny to me. Like, if you make something funny, it don't matter how offending it is. Like, if it's funny, it's comedy. It works. Now, the highlight of my night was Katt Williams. And Katt was not reading the prompter, Kat. He read some things from the prompter. But all of that, A lot of that stuff, Kat was just rolling. Cause I'm looking at the prompter whole time he is just going and going and going. And then they scroll up like they think he going, read. But nah, he was just going off the top of his head or whatever, you know, and then most of the stuff that we already heard him say, so he did it in joke form or whatever, but then he read the. The end of it or whatever, so.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Well, let's go back to.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, you might go back to what?

[DJ Envy]

I was gonna go back to the George Floyd.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, the Tony Hinchcliffe. Just because you bringing that up is a good point, because now George Floyd's family has responded, but let's take a listen to the Tony Hinchcliffe joke that he did on the stage that got people upset. Let's take a listen.

[K]

It's true he lost his gig hosting the Academy Awards because of some homophobic tweets, but you'd be homophobic too, if you were eye level with everyone's. He got into a fist fight on a private plane. Proof that no matter how much money black people have, they're still just gonna act like ninjas. Always fightin'. Like Bill Cosby Hart is a black comedian from Philadelphia. Unlike Bill Cosby, women don't know when Kevin is inside of them. You've done good, though, Kevin. The black community is so proud of you. Right now, George Floyd is looking up at us all, laughing so hard that he can't breathe.

[DJ Envy]

I didn't think that was funny. Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Personally, and this is my personal opinion, I think jokes about people dying, you know, violent, tragic deaths should be off limits. Like. Like, George Floyd died at the hands of the police because of systemic racism. I don't see the funny.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, I didn't. I didn't see funny.

[Just Hilarious]

Yeah, no, he was going and going and going, and he never came up for air. I thought he was funny until the last two. Now, those jokes, like, whole room quiet. I don't know if they edited laughs in there, but the whole room was quiet.

[Lauren LaRosa]

People were uncomfortable, man.

[Just Hilarious]

What? Everybody. White people, black people, everybody, like, was very uncomfortable, Like.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. I mean, there's no reason, Like, George Floyd died at the hands of the police. Like, he died of violent, tragic death. Like, there's no. There's no humor in that.

[DJ Envy]

Then the extra part of it, he was, like. He said something about it. It was choking, couldn't breathe. Like, none of that was funny to me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No.

[DJ Envy]

Well, none of it was.

[Just Hilarious]

It wasn't funny to nobody on the stage or in the room. The whole room.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Well, Travis Keynes, he's a spokesperson for the Gianna and George Floyd Foundation. Gianna is George Floyd's daughter. Spoke to tmz, and he said that the joke was sad for the culture. He says that, you know, the. The black community. Well, when referencing of this joke about the black community, they. They say that George Floyd's friends and families feel like Kevin Hart should have told Tony to stay off the topic, if nothing else. And they were baffled and disgusted by Tony's, uh, obsession, they call it, with telling George Floyd jokes. They didn't appreciate it at all.

[Just Hilarious]

So he has told jokes about George Floyd before.

[Lauren LaRosa]

They're talking about at the roast.

[Just Hilarious]

Oh, all right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I also don't think they should be joked on because they have nothing to do with the roast.

[DJ Envy]

Nothing at all.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, you know, like. Like the Cheryl Underwood. You know, they're making jokes about her husband committing suicide. I wouldn't do that either. But she's there, right? Pete Davidson's father, who died in 9, 11. I wouldn't joke about that, but he's there. Okay, but what does. What does George Floyd have to do with the roast?

[Just Hilarious]

And it didn't really Seem like it was just a Kevin Hart roast. It was like a roast on culture. It was like you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But that's how Rose usually are. I'm just saying. But those people aren't have nothing to do with the Rose. Cheryl Underwood and Pete Davidson are there. What does George Floyd have to do with anything?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, like, and they also mentioned too that Gianna gets bullied in school, which is George Floyd's daughter, and that things like the roast that are like so like such a big platform, it just doesn't help anything. And that they, they say that Tony should take a second to just think about the real life implications that these jokes can have on people who obviously doesn't care.

[DJ Envy]

Obviously he doesn't care.

[Just Hilarious]

He does not care.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, he seems like a racist prick. I, I just, I just thought it was that nasty, disgusting think.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, when you make jokes about those things, you just have to deal with the consequences of those jokes. And you know, if you campaign, you will get elected.

[Just Hilarious]

Right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But he's not campaign. You will get.

[DJ Envy]

He's not campaigning for. For. For the black culture.

[Lovey]

His culture.

[DJ Envy]

He'll still sell out tickets.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They still listen to what I'm saying. If you campaign, you will get elected, meaning that you continue to.

[DJ Envy]

I know what you mean. I hope so. I hope so.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I hope he gets elected.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And wrapping this up, Kevin Hart spoke out yesterday amidst all the backlash and just honestly being thankful. Let's take a listen.

[Caller or Listener]

Listen.

[DJ Envy]

That, my friend, is what the roast

[Charlamagne Tha God]

is supposed to be.

[Just Hilarious]

It's goddamn hard hitting, relentless jokes with no consequence. Shouts out to every comedian that came on that stage because they all understood the assignment. Man, Pete Davidson, amazing. You saw comics be comic.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Cheryl Underwood.

[Just Hilarious]

Incredible.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You are incredible. You were Cheryl.

[Just Hilarious]

Holy Cat Williams. The shock factor kept being there. Cat set was insane. There's no emotions attached to a roast. You tell your jokes and we understand that they gonna come with some heat.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The rock. Oh my God.

[Just Hilarious]

He's a rare form. Tony Hedgecliffe understood the assignment. Relentless as he always is, but funny. Taller fans that just understand and appreciate what a roast is supposed to be.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No emotion. It's not what a roast is about.

[Just Hilarious]

It's all in the efforts of being funny.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's that simple.

[Just Hilarious]

By the way, I killed them at the end.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm still drunk.

[Just Hilarious]

I love y'. All.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I love funny. But you always gonna have to deal with the consequences of your words. I'm telling y' all over and over, free speech is not free. There's a price to pay for every word that comes out of your Mouth. And sometimes consequences aren't always corporate. Consequences aren't always financial.

[DJ Envy]

That's right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Somebody might just see you in the street and slap you in the face.

[Just Hilarious]

Listen, all I know, Lamar Odom was not happy with all the crack. Every time a nigga said crack, his jaw clenched and he even got up and he left. He left the bitch he was at the table with, like, he walked out, she looked back, oh, gosh. He had to run at the. But had had to run after him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What was the crack joke?

[Lauren LaRosa]

When he left, everybody was talking about

[Just Hilarious]

Kevin Hartfather being on crack.

[DJ Envy]

I mean, just everybody. Everybody.

[Just Hilarious]

But every time he heard the word crack.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, it wasn't even crack jokes about him. He just heard crack and ran out.

[Caller or Listener]

He.

[Just Hilarious]

His father, Kevin Hart father, was a crackhead, known crackhead. So everybody was constantly attacking him about that. Every time Lamar Odom heard that, he just was not happy with that. And he heard it too many times. And he got up and left like, he ain't like it too close to home.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What if Lamar hears this and see, I just had somewhere to go?

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[Just Hilarious]

No, absolutely not. He ain't like that. He did not like it. And I don't know how I was ever canceled after sitting in that room. I don't. I don't know how I was ever canceled. Yeah, niggas be mad at me for saying anything. It's no way. I was like, what? What I did was, what. What are we talking about? But when the worm. They said, somebody said, I forgot who it was. Somebody said, half the room, all of y' all pedophiles. Y' all just not. Y' all can't afford your own island. Everybody looked around to see who. Who it was. I was like, damn. Like, the whole room was called pedophiles. I think that was. Yes. I think she said, yeah, she said that. That y' all just can't afford your own island. A room full of pedophiles. I was like, God damn.

[DJ Envy]

All right, well, that is the latest with Lauren. Now, when we come back, we got front page news. Mimi's here from LA. And then we're going to talk to Dr. Cheyenne Bryant. Her new book Live youe Promises. Out now, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlamagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get some front page news. Start off with some quick sports. The Cavaliers beat the Pistons 1 12, 103. They tied the series 2 2. OKC beat the Lakers 115 110. And LeBron's gonna decide if next year he's gonna play in his 24th year or will he just let it go? He's gonna be a free agent. So they're saying, is he gonna retire, come back with the Lakers, or is he leaving?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Anybody who uses that much. Beijing, who's had the head transplants ain't letting nothing go. Okay, so he'll at least come back for one more.

[DJ Envy]

Wow. Wow. I never got the transplant yesterday.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You had the grade showing yesterday. Let me see.

[Just Hilarious]

We still go. Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm just proud of you letting the grades come in, King.

[DJ Envy]

Just till today, brother. Just till today. Just today. I couldn't get to the bar, but get to the barbershop. What's up?

[Mimi Brown]

Good morning. How y' all doing this morning? All right, so this morning at 7, we are going to start with some possible relief at the pump. So President Trump, he says that he wants to temporarily suspend the federal gas tax as Americans continue to feel it at the pump. Soaring fuel prices tied to the war in Iran. The President's made the comments yesterday in the Oval Office. Let's listen to that exchange. Mr. President, are you going to suspend

[Caller or Listener]

the federal gas tax?

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, I'm going to reduce until the. Let me tell you, as soon as this is over with Iran, as soon

[Lovey]

as it's over, you're going to see

[DJ Envy]

gasoline and oil drop like a rock.

[Mimi Brown]

How long are you to going suspend that tax for?

[Lovey]

Till it's appropriate.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah, okay, so till it's appropriate. So right now we pay about 18 cents a gallon in federal gas taxes. With federal. With diesel is taxed even higher. So that money funds roads, highways, major transportation projects across the country. But since the war began, prices have jumped more than 50%. Gas prices have jumped more than 50%. The national average is around $4.50 a gallon. So the White House is searching for ways to ease that pressure on American families. But even if that tax is suspended, you guys, it's only going to be about 2 to $3. Save you 2 to $3 per fill up. So you may not feel it like, so if it takes you 98 to fill up your tank, we're talking 95.

[DJ Envy]

It's gonna be like 20 cents. I'm the king of $40 on my, on my, on my gas tank. And right now 40 ain't getting me. Yeah, like 40 ain't really even talking about. I only put 40 in my car. Regardless of what it is, I don't care how 40 on pump three.

[Just Hilarious]

What are you Driving. Let's be for real.

[DJ Envy]

What day? It doesn't matter. But I'm only putting $40 in and it's getting more and more expensive.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, why not just fill up when you need to fill up?

[DJ Envy]

I don't know, it just. I feel like I only want to put out $40. I think anything more than that, it's ridiculous.

[Just Hilarious]

Being humble.

[DJ Envy]

It's just. I don't know what it is. I just want to put $40. $40 used to give me half a tank.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You sure you're not used to leaving the Punisher? $40. And like all the other mail, that's course what you mean? Like, I'm trying to figure out, like,

[DJ Envy]

what's your phone made me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Didn't y' all have a song called Give me $40? Wasn't that a big record?

[DJ Envy]

Give me $20.

[Mimi Brown]

But I also want to say that President Trump, he can't do this alone. So Congress would have to sign off on this.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right?

[Mimi Brown]

So we'll see. But there is right now bipartisan support for this. So it could be something that hasn't happened since 1932 when it was established. But, you know, right now, people are looking for some relief. I mean, I want to ask you guys, how do you feel about allowing guns to be shipped through the mail?

[DJ Envy]

Hell no.

[Mimi Brown]

No.

[DJ Envy]

Makes no sense.

[Just Hilarious]

No.

[DJ Envy]

Somebody breaks into one of those packages, you know, I mean, because people can tell the weight of. Of a package nine times out of ten. Hell no.

[Mimi Brown]

Hell no.

[DJ Envy]

Why?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't care, man.

[Just Hilarious]

I mean, whatever way that we going to get it though.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. Stay dangerous game. Nothing matters. Because nothing matters.

[DJ Envy]

You going to buy a gun online and then you just expect the gun to get.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This is America. How else would you get it?

[DJ Envy]

We can't even get iPhones in the mail properly. They still. I. I'm with you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But since guns are as American as apple pie, you might as well be able to FedEx your firearms. If you can ship a pie for the holidays, you might as well be able to ship a pistol.

[DJ Envy]

No way.

[Mimi Brown]

It's not FedEx. It is USPS United States Postal Service. And this could soon be a reality. So the Postal Service wants to allow people to legally mail handguns for the first time in nearly 100 years. It is a proposal backed by the Trump administration. Right now, federal law largely bans regular citizens from mailing handguns through the postal service. It's been imposed place since 1927. Only licensed gun dealers in certain approved groups can do so. They can ship things like pistols and revolvers through the mail. But now the Department of Justice says that ban may violate the second amendment. And they argue that if the federal government operates as a mail service, it can't block law abiding citizens from shipping legally owned firearms. But safety groups, gun safety groups, they're fighting back, right? They're saying that it would create what they call a gun trafficking pipeline. Arguing that it'll make it easier for illegal weapons to move through the mail while making it harder for law enforcement to track them.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I thought licensed gun dealers always could mail.

[Mimi Brown]

They can. They license gun dealers, but everyday people.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, so this would be okay. Okay, gotcha.

[DJ Envy]

So now I gotta trust that you know how to disarm your gun, make sure you don't have a bullet in your gun, make sure it's not paused. Like there's a lot that a normal person, you gotta trust to make sure that the post office is not carrying a loaded weapon, that they drop it goes off like, like.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nah, listen, in a sane America, in a normal America, I would say absolutely not. But that's we, we in a whole different timeline now, guys. Like we in a whole different multiverse. So this seems pretty normal. Nah, I don't seem pretty on par to me.

[DJ Envy]

Like license dealers. Yes. And I even understand people who like if they're going on vacation to, let's say, a place that you can carry a gun and you want to, you know, mail it because you don't want to fly at a certain area. That makes sense. But. But no, I wouldn't give people that much power.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Everyday people.

[Mimi Brown]

Well, the nra, right, they, they are backing this proposal. They say it's currently unfair to target, target legal gun owners. And they call the change victory for the second amendment. So we'll see. The Postal Service too, by the way, they are reviewing public comments before they decide whether to finalize this rule. So it could be something that happens pretty sooner than later.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's crazy.

[Mimi Brown]

And lastly, if you've been paying your rent on time for years but still can't qualify for a mortgage, that may finally be changing. There's a major shift coming in federal housing policy that can make it easier for millions of Americans with little or no credit history to buy a home. So Fannie Mac and Freddie Mac, they're beginning to place more weight on things like consistent rent payments when deciding who qualifies for a mortgage. So for years, financially responsible renters, especially younger Americans, freelancers, gig workers they haven't been able to qualify because they lack traditional credit, will now figure out federal regulators, they are expanding programs that will allow lenders to use newer credit score models that look for overall payment habits, including rent. So that's a good, good thing, right?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Get credit for.

[DJ Envy]

Absolutely.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

All right, y'.

[Lovey]

All.

[Mimi Brown]

Well, that is your front page news. I'm Mimi Brown. Follow me @mimi Brown TV. And for more stories, follow the Black Information network.

[DJ Envy]

All right, thank you, Mimi. Now, when we come back, Dr. Cheyenne Bryant will be joining us. Her new book Live your promise is out today and we're going to talk to her next. So don'. The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody.

[Lauren LaRosa]

DJ Envy.

[DJ Envy]

Just hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Lauren Rose is here as well. We got a special guest in the building. Her new book is out right now. Live your promise. Ladies and gentlemen, Dr. Cheyenne Bryant. Welcome back.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Listen, Breakfast Club fam, I love, I love being here. I'd be seeing. Seeing you out at the Diddy trial, seeing you out at the Booy Jeezy. Let me tell you, there was music

[Just Hilarious]

playing and then there was music playing.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Can you tell the people he really be DJing?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

No, no.

[Just Hilarious]

I go out.

[Lauren LaRosa]

When he go places, I go because I always have a good time. But they be trying to play with him up here. Like he don't be knowing what he doing.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Envy, did I not come behind that stage and say, listen, the entire party concert was jumping because he was on fire.

[DJ Envy]

Thank you.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

At the DJ booth, I looked up

[Lauren LaRosa]

like, who is that?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

And I was like, aw, that was DJ Envy. Yeah, you killed it.

[DJ Envy]

And I think you need a new name, right? You Dr. Cheyenne Brian here. But you need like a shy shy shy. But she was shy shy that weekend. No, no, you don't understand. Every boosie verse and record, she knew from head to head.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

You talking too much.

[DJ Envy]

Every. Every. Yo, you understand, I'm gonna tell one story.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

You gonna just start off messing her

[DJ Envy]

own words in there, right? So you know, Jeezy, I'm the realest. She like, I'm the real doctor in here.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You already know

[Just Hilarious]

all you gotta see.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

That's why you gotta have everybody sign the NDA, damn it. Everybody gotta sign the nigga NDA.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You know I love that.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

It's called a hybrid. I gotta be able to have a good time.

[DJ Envy]

I'm mad at you.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

I gotta be able to be relatable to people.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Why do the people be mad when you are out having a good time? Cuz that made me think of when you went to Jeezy's concert and it was a whole discourse about your outfit at the concert.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

So Jeezy. They weren't mad because the doc was having a good time. They were mad because of what I wore. Yeah, it was black tie to me. It wasn't black tied to some other people. And you know, this is the thing. I have agency over a couple things. One of those happened to be me and what I wear. And so I'm always wear what I want to wear. And again, you know, my clients, my dog squad, my fan base, those are my people, those are my village. My goal is not to sit up here and try to convince folks who have already made up their mind to either misunderstand me or dislike me to like me. I will spend my entire life having to continuously convince them to like, understand. And that's just a responsibility that I'm not going to take on. I don't think anybody should do that. We all have our village and our job is to cater to, love and nurture our village. Once you start going outside of that, then you have to spend your whole life trying to make sure these people continuously like you. And then you live in dogma and dogma will eat your ass up alive. And it's just not worth it. It's just. It's a bill that, that you don't want to ever have to pay.

[DJ Envy]

Does it bother you at all?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Which part?

[DJ Envy]

The way that people attack you because you get attacked a lot.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

It doesn't bother me. It comes with the territory. And I think that any of us who are either in the industry, in media, a celebrity who has a certain level of fame, or even just came from the inner city, right, and knows what it is to be an attractive woman in the hood in the inner city, you get a lot of rhetoric and you understand that the outside chatter is a part of being successful. And then I said it's with humility, but it's the truth. And you add on beauty, you add on being articulated or educated and, you know, beating a lot of the statistics and the odds that come from being an inner city, you know, little girl or boy, it comes with the territory. So I always say that, you know, Jesus served the church, died for the church and the church, Judas, his disciple, set him up. The people he loved and he served, set him up to be crucified. So why do we personalize when people, I. E. Our disciples, our folks who were never our disciples and our people have an issue with us, try to take us down or set us up for failure? That is a part of being great. That is a part of people witnessing you be in your lane and do what you do. And them saying, I either don't have the capacity to do so, I would love to do it. And what I've learned, y', all, is that people don't always want to occupy your space. They want your territory. And if you understand that, then you occupy the territory that God has given you, because no one can take what God has given. You can't miss what's yours. And if your faith, which is an action word, stands on that, then what are you personalizing when people have an issue with you? One, number two, people literally pay for the kind of Internet attention that I get. They create storylines for the headlines and the blog attention and the virality that I get. I don't pay for any of it. I just show up and be me. And so, no, it doesn't bother me. What I will say is there's times where Dr. Brian has to check Cheyenne on some of my clapbacks, because some of my clapbacks be like, you know, well, yo mama. And I said, you can't say that. But then I'm like, you can, But I'm like, don't. So it has stretched my bandwidth. It has really shown me how emotionally intelligent I am. And it also has shown me where I have some growth in the emotional maturity space when I'm thinking of clapping back or saying something that could really gut people.

[DJ Envy]

A lot of the backlash come from people in your field, right?

[Just Hilarious]

Come on.

[DJ Envy]

Other doctors, therapists, life coaches. And what I say is they say the reason that you don't get questioned or tested as much is because of your quote, unquote looks, you know, envy.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

I said this last time I was on, you might. You might be my alter ego brother. Because some of the stuff you say is just right up the alley of what needs to be addressed. So there's pretty privilege, and I've learned that there's pretty punishment. And I didn't really understand that term until I got into my field. And I want to say this. I didn't get. I've been in my field for 18 years. I didn't get into this field to become famous, to become a celebrity. I got in this field because I was a little girl from the inner city who was tenacious, determined to make it out. And I had a lot of broken pieces and abandonment. And when God provided me tools that helped me take my broken pieces and make peace from it, go from my wilderness into my promised land, which I talk about in my book, live your promise, I thought, wait a minute, I got to make sure I Give everybody. I come in contact with these principles because everyone deserves that freedom and that healing that I'm experiencing. What I call God's peace. All right? And so with that, people got a whiff of it. And you know, the fan base, the folks made me famous, made me a celebrity. I did not grow up and say, hey, I want to just listen. I'm a good looking woman. I've had access to the industry for my entire life. If I wanted to be famous, I would have went maybe the actress route or the modeling route. Easy call for me. It would have been so easy. I've never had an agent, I've never had a manager. So what I'm saying is this came to me and I had to continuously remind people I'm in a field where I am taking on people's luggage, I am unpacking it, and I am helping them process through their stuff so they can have a better quality of life, they can have mental health, and they can actually have tools to sustain their well being. So none of that. No one goes to college and gets multiple degrees to say, I want to be famous. Now do I love it here? Yeah, I love it. I'm grateful for it. I appreciate it. And the other thing is, you know, I created my own lane as a psychology expert life coach. So when people see that they went into a group that wasn't Elaine, they just fell into being a part of a group and they're looking at this other woman who they're like, wait a minute, you know, she created her own lane and she's totally killing it. It's like, yo, there's only room for me in the lane that I created. And I would like. If y' all put your blinker on when you're trying to get over, because a lot of times they're trying to just get over in my lane. It's like. But doesn't work like that. If folks would concentrate on either asking, buying books, looking at my videos, booking a session to say, document, how did you do it? I'm not a gatekeeper. I love putting people on. The quickest way to wealth is through serving people. I'm in a service position as a psychology expert life coach. I am serving people all day long as president of NAACP, the biggest civil rights organization in Los Angeles for 14 years. That is a service position. We don't get paid to run a civil rights organization. That is volunteer work. Work I've done for 14 years. And so if folks would focus on doc, how did you create your own lane? I would Give them the tools like I'm doing in my book Live youe Promise about how I did it, how I went from the hood to the hills. Was it hard? Yeah. Is it possible? Absolutely. Am I the only one that can do it? Hell no. The tools I use, if you apply it, you will get the same result. Just like baking a cake.

[DJ Envy]

Thing I see online is she doesn't. She doesn't do this under her license. She's not a quote unquote, real doctor. She has an honorary degree. She didn't earn it. So let's talk about what you do as far as being a life coach and a doctor. Do you have a license for. For what you do? So what is a license needed?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

I love that. What I do, a license is not required. 1. Number two, when I was in my undergrad, which is a degree in psychology, my master's is a degree in Marriage, Family and Child Therapy. My doctorate is in Counseling Psychology. Those are all academic. I have four academic degrees. The other one is in Pan African Studies. There's two honorary doctorates. One is in behavioral science.

[DJ Envy]

So you have an earned doctorate?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

And the other one is in humanitaries. Honorary doctorates are to praise you and give you your flowers for your body of work. Okay. They're not academic, but it shows your body of work is effective enough for them to honor you with an honorary doctorate. Now, going back when I said I worked under a license, See, all of this is terminology. People would open up their ears and do what school teaches therapists to do. I'm not a therapist, but the group of licensed professionals who have an issue with this, they teach you all something called active listening. None of y' all seem to be actively listening. Working under a license means I'm working under a supervisor's license. If anyone went to school for therapy, psychiatrist, psychologist, you have to accumulate practicum. You have to accumulate hours before you can graduate. It's not an option. So I accumulated thousands of hours underneath the supervisor's license working as a marriage, family, and child therapists. So an MFT is what? I was not a lmft. LMFT is Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist. MFT is Marriage and Family Therapist. As I worked under that license, I did diagnose, I did treatment plans, and I seen clients regularly. My goal was never, ever to obtain licensing. Ever. I did not go to college and say, I want to become a licensed therapist. Let me put a disclaimer out there. A licensed therapist. There's nothing wrong with that. There are absolutely effective, amazing therapists counselors, psychiatrists, psychologists, and life coaches. Absolutely amazing. It's all subjective. What works for where you are in your life, what works best for the season you're in, what is it that you need, and what clinician or coach is best fit for what you have going on, the season you're in, and whose tools and principles will most be effective for where you're trying to be and for your healing. That's what it boils down to. Neither is better. One's licensed and one's not. For me, I have all of the training, and I have the academia, and I have the education. I'm gonna say it one last time. I had zero desire to ever become licensed as a young girl. I've always created my own lane. I'm a disruptor. Y' all can't see that by now. I've always been the woman that said, hey, if everyone's doing left, then I want to go create right. If everyone's doing black, I want to go create white. I'm doing it now. It works for me. So my goal was to be able to create a huge platform and be able to heal people, bless people at a large level, not to be licensed or bill insurance, diagnose or treat or have patients. I don't do or have any of those. I provide effective tools, principles, and I have clients and I have sessions, and that is exactly what I do.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Why did you start off not wanting to be licensed, where most people would be licensed? And then I have friends who've, like, gotten licensed, have experienced some things with what you have to do once you're licensed, and have said, I'm okay with not renewing, you're not going forward, or whatever.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Right, but wait, say that again. Run that back.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So I have friends who been licensed that have said, you know what? I'd rather do it the other way, because their battle with insurances and how they're paid is a conversation. But most people start off wanting to be licensed. Why did you start off not wanting to be licensed?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Because I knew that it would create barriers for me in the way that I want to be able to approach my clients. I knew that, for example, when I was working under a license, a Super Vision license, as an mft, not an lmft, I had a client, they came in, a young woman who experienced sexual abuse. And because I'm working under a license, I had to make sure that I followed those licenser ethics and laws in the sense of not confidentiality. I do that now as a. As a life coach and not as boundaries, but. But there were moments where she needed a hug because she was having a lot of triggers, and she was experiencing a lot of her sexual abuse in a way that she needed to be supported. And of course, I asked, you know, is it okay if I hug you in this moment? Is that okay? I asked, I would ask my clients now, and she said, I'm not ready for that hug. No problem. Few months, months went on, and I asked her again, hey, you know, is it okay if. If I hug you? Was our last session, we were actually ending our term together. And she was like, yeah, like, I'm actually ready for that hug now. As a licensed clinician, you are taught in school ethically that you do not hug. Embrace your clients at all. If y' all have ever experienced therapy, I have that something that's a no, no. It's just something you don't do unless you of course, ask. But it's a very, very thin line. My approach as a life coach, I'm very loving, I'm very nurturing. I hug, I say, I love you. Have a good day. At the end of our sessions. And those small things that I'm able to do as a life coach have been life changing for my clients. I've had clients, after giving them a hug, stay in my office for 20 more minutes, just crying and bawling their eyes out, saying, you have no idea how much I needed that hug, Doc. I've had clients that I've said, I love you. I'm proud of you, who have said, my mother, my father has. Has never said those words to me. And that has been the catalyst to their healing. Some folks don't need to just come and just talk. Some people do. Some people that talk therapy is their breakthrough, and I completely advocate for that, if that's what you need. For some people, they do just need to be nurtured and loved through their. Through their pain. And some folks, trauma has completely broken them and has calloused them to where only love is. What can break down those barriers of callous, of. Of their heart being hardened because they've never experienced that type of nurturing and love. And so, again, everybody has different things that they mean. It's about us not focusing on who is better or worse or titled or not titled. It's how can we serve the people that we all are collectively trying to make sure. Gets tools, gets healing, gets therapy. If you're a therapist, gets coaching. If you're a coach, how can we make sure those people get what they need and let's take the focus away from the practitioners or the coaches. Are you effective? Are you changing and healing lives? If so, run those plays. If not, get more training, get more practice, or get up under somebody who can teach you how to do it effectively. Because really, at the end of the day, that's all that we all are trying to do. And I want people to know, I want them to, to choose what works best for you. Not just only as the patient or the client, but as the clinician or the coach. Which lane works best for you. I don't want my hands tied behind my back. I'll land on this. As a little girl, I didn't need to just talk, y'.

[Caller or Listener]

All.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

I needed love. I needed someone to see me. I needed someone to hold my hand. I needed someone to pat me on the back. I wanted someone to sit with me, grab my little cheeks and say, listen, I love you. With your hurt self, with your pain self, with your trauma self, with your abandoned self. I got you. So I can provide those same principles that works for me. I'm able to do in my lane that I've created and in my capacity, and I've been doing it 18 years and I'm effective. And it has made me the most out psychology expert life coach in the world today.

[DJ Envy]

What you studied and what you did and the schooling that you got and the classes that you, you take. But you know when I said I did a deep dive, some people like, well, how can she tell me about my marriage when she hasn't been married? Or how can she tell me about my family or my kids when she hasn't been through that? Even though you studied it and you got your degree in it. So what do you say to those people?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

So you just going to cook the whole, the whole interview just going to cut all your questions going to be, you know what? Cuz just tell them that we talked about this pre, pre.

[DJ Envy]

But what I say and I looked, it wasn't know two years ago. This is like a week ago. And I'm like, Jesus Christ, y' all trying to stomp out the shit Cheyenne Bryant like my Knicks did the Philly Sixes.

[Just Hilarious]

But guys, yeah, and we know shot

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

at the Philadelphia and we know that's not gonna happen. You know that's just not gonna happen. You can't have what God has given me. It don't work like that. And you can't be in my lane. You couldn't ride in this lane if I gave you the opportunity to. So whatever star you wishing on Baby, wish a little bigger because that's not gonna happen. But your question was what? What do I think about people who say, I'm not married, so how can I teach folks? So this the is thing. I do not teach people how to be married. Marriage is between you and your partner. That's your agreement, that's your covenant. And however you two decide to create and curate your marriage, I can't teach you that. What I teach people is how to get out of their own way. Because happy healed people make happy healed marriages. Miserable unhappy people create miserable marriages. Trauma doubt folks create trauma bonds. Healed people create healed bonds. I teach you envy. How do you process through your trauma so you don't bleed on your wife? I teach you. Lauren, how do you get out of your daddy issues? Not saying you have them. Your daddy issues, your parental issues. Okay, well your job. I'm on point today out of your daddy issues. Right. So that you don't point and project your pain onto this man who is loving the hell out of you and doesn't deserve that. If I could teach you how to heal those and how to get out of your way with that, then I have helped you become a better woman for yourself, which in return is going to do what? Benefit the collective of that marriage. No one can teach people how to be married. We teach you how to get out of your own way so you and your partner can be healthy. That's it. Because no matter how much we teach you the the proper tools of marriage, if you are traumaed out and you're abandonment and sabotaging this thing, those tools will not be affected until I help you get out of your way there.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Another conversation in your community of work is with people feeling like you don't have the educational background that they're like out here searching for or whatever. Right. The biggest thing is, is like in a normal situation, if, because I've heard you say that you're dealing with your own like wounds of like being abandoned and like how you'll self sabotage in certain situations.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

How I have. I used to.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, I used to.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Past tense.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, yeah. So a lot of people who are in your lane, they're like, okay, if I know that personally about myself, I depend on my education to be able to put that to the side and give you the tools. And I know some people are upset because they're like, well, they're trying to say you don't have the education, but then you also have this, your own issues in your real life. So how are you separating the two of one thing is their legend is not there.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Yeah, I got you. I hear the question. So the work that I've done on my abandonment, that has created a healing in me and really allowed me to identify my pain pockets. Right. So to where I don't sabotage anymore. I'm able to have emotional intelligence, high functionality, and communicate with you even as a friend, to say, look, you know, how you show up in this relationship, Lauren, it's triggering me. And in the past, I would have sabotaged or just left or not even had a conversation. But I want to talk about this because I honor and I love our friendship. And so when you do X, Y and Z, this is how it makes me feel. I'm identifying my emotions, and these are the things that I need from you as my best friend. Can you commit to those things? That's a healing person. Who's talking? That is where I am now. Okay. Sabotaging was something I did as a young girl because I didn't even understand that I was sabotaging because I was still trying to get in contact with my pain. I was still trying to figure out how abandonment was impacting me. So the tools that I use to be able to get myself from self sabotaging to communicating and being high functioning and having emotional intelligence and mending this relationship and letting you know what I need, because now I have awareness of who I am as a woman. I'm aware of my pain pockets, I'm aware of my triggers. Those are all the tools that I teach. Those are all the tools that are in my book Live youe Promise. And so I'm teaching folks how to get out of their own way. Because there was a time where I was in my way and what made it challenging for me to heal y' all was I was in relationships with people who enabled it because they weren't leaving me. They were still putting rings on my finger. They were still wanting to marry me. They were still loving the hell out of me. And that enabling mechanism doesn't give folks an excuse to still show up trauma'd out to still show up in your dysfunction. You still have a responsibility to love yourself enough, respect yourself enough to say, let me identify what is going on in me, even though this person is allowing it. That I know is not effective for the collective of the relationship or myself.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You think that that was like them still coming back? Was that their ego of like, you know, men want to be able to conquer, to be able to change and sit you down and, you know, all those things that come with, like, when you're a strong woman.

[DJ Envy]

Or could it be because he was just trying to love you through your problems?

[Lauren LaRosa]

I mean, I was gonna say. Or was it the opposite? Like, what did you discover more?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

You know what? I think that God just really blessed me with amazing people in my life. Like, I've had some. Some amazing parents. I've had amazing partners who I've been in relationship with. I've had friends that just love me down. And I like to say that that's a reflection of who I am and how I love. I love deep. I love hard. I will love you out of your. I will love you out of your. I'm like that with my clients. And so I just had men who. They just had the bandwidth to love me through my. And that taught me that you can have all the tools, you can have the best therapist, the best coach. But if you don't have love, healing is nearly impossible. I don't care what anyone says. You'll be a highly functioning, transactional person with, like an encyclopedia, with all the tools and the effectiveness, and this is how it works and the principles. But. But internally homeless as hell, because you won't have the ability to attach to love, to securely attach, not anxiously attach or avoidantly attach. You would be a mansion that's homeless. And so, you know, people just really loved me through my trauma, and that was amazing.

[DJ Envy]

How was. How were they enabling you? Like, what were you doing? Because the first time they weren't setting boundaries.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

You know, folks, some. Some people bless you. Some people fall so deep in love envy that they start loving the person more than themselves, which puts an eclipse up from them realizing that there needs to be a boundary set right now.

[DJ Envy]

Don't most women want that? Don't most women want somebody that's going to love them damn near more than themselves?

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Absolutely, I do. I do. So let me speak for myself. I do. But as that man is loving me more than he loves himself, I want there to be a healthy balance of him loving himself enough to say, baby, I'm not gonna leave you. But this right here, there's gonna be a boundary put up here. Because, see, I do respect myself. Even though I love you. I love myself, too, as a man. And you just can't talk to me like that because that emasculates me. And I'm vertical in who I am. And the reason why you love me so much and the reason why I can carry you is because of the fact that I respect myself and that I'm vertical. And so you cannot emasculate me, meaning shrink me, and expect me to be big enough to carry you. That is a man who has boundaries. He's not sabotaging you. He's not abandoning you. But it takes a healed woman to say, you know what? You right. Let me work on this. Show me how to work on this. Teach me what that looks like. Because maybe I've never done that. Maybe I've never had a father. It takes a certain woman, women who don't have the bandwidth, the awareness, the healing to respect that kind of man should have enough respect for themselves to leave. Not sabotage, but leave that relationship because she will emasculate him. But a man who was functioning at that high level won't tolerate that, at least for not long.

[DJ Envy]

There you have it. New book is out right now. Live youe Promise and we appreciate you for joining us and being so open.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Of course.

[DJ Envy]

Show us. So much lightning anytime we see you up here or out and about. We appreciate the love.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Definitely do you know, I'm gonna come here and bring the truth.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah. Congratulations on the book. It's a good one.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

I appreciate it. Thank you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right.

[DJ Envy]

It's Dr. Cheyenne Bryant. She's coming back at all out there. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

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[DJ Envy]

Get ready for the next evolution of crime drama from the creator of the culturally defining series Power. Courtney A. Kemp joins forces with co creator and Executive producer Tahnee Maroli to bring the story of Nemesis to life. This series pairs relentless action with deep emotional stakes as a brilliant criminal mastermind and an obsessed LAPD detective collide in a wild game of cat and mouse that challenges what it means to be a good man under impossible circumstances. Nemesis has everything you want in dark, high stakes crime drama, but don't get it twisted. It's not just about crime. It's an eight episode no skip thrill ride that digs into love, loss and what it means to ride for our partner when everything's on the line. Watch Nemesis May 14th only on Netflix.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Okay, so quick behind the scenes moment about my business because people always ask me like, how do I actually run everything? So Shopify is literally the platform where I turned this tiny idea into a business. Before this, I was really just like popping up at any in person event, any vending opportunity I could, which I still do, but I wasn't really as focused online. I was like, you know, the websites are going to be too much to build out. I'm not like a super techie person, even though I can make things cute. And I didn't want to put up a website that would run my customers away. I wanted it to be efficient, to be easy. And Shopify helped me build brown girlgrinding.com out. Once I switched to Shopify, it finally clicked like, okay, I can actually do this. It's not about it being tough, it's about using the right platform to make it easy. Shopify takes all of the guesswork out. I build my own store, I manage my community, own my own customer relationships. Plus this is my favorite thing. Shopify gets my products everywhere. I'm able to link stuff through Google, YouTube, TikTok, Shop the Shop app, even ChatGPT and Instagram, which is very important for me and Shopify's AI co founder sidekick, game changer, let me tell y'.

[DJ Envy]

All.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Right, so it's helped me not only optimize my site, it helps me look at my sales trends, it updates my product skills, all the stuff I'm absolutely not an expert in. But it's like having a genius business partner that never sleeps. And right now the bronco grinding storefront and the Black Effect storefront is busy and Shopify is handling all of the heavy lifting. I love that for us. I am pumped, like so pumpkin that Shopify is going to show up at the Black Effect Podcast festival this year in a big way. And I will be there preaching this platform to all of the small black owned businesses. That partner with us. So if you've been sitting on an idea or if you're ready to scale, which you've already started, this is your sign. Go to shopify.com Ben if I can do it, you can do it, too.

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[DJ Envy]

All right, well, let's get to the latest one.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Lauren, you're talking. LL Cool.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, I'm not dumbing myself down. I'm being myself. I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything and everything.

[Just Hilarious]

Little brown girls look at you and

[Lauren LaRosa]

go, I want to be like you. Take me through that. Take me through there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She going.

[DJ Envy]

The latest with Lauren Lenos. Take me through there on the Breakfast Club.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

LL Cool baby, talk to me.

[Lauren LaRosa]

All right, y'.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

All.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So yesterday it got really weird out here in the the Apple Music and YouTube Streets because we are, what, like three days away from Drake's Iceman album, and then all of a sudden, Kendrick Lamar's GNX album disappears off of.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, what was that about?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Which I'm still trying to figure it out. I'll get into. I. I reached out to the label. They couldn't really explain anything, but so the Gen X album is literally deleted off of Apple Music and Tidal, but you can still listen to it on Spotify. And then at the same time, you have the Not Like Us video that was taken down from YouTube at over 400 million views. And then you have the Luther video that was taken down from YouTube. Right. And the Euphoria song. You couldn't listen to it on streaming as well.

[DJ Envy]

That sounds like some hacking jobs happening.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So. And I asked them like I emailed them and I'm like, hey, I, I'm looking at it myself. It's not on Apple Music. What's going on? They responded to me like, wait, but it's still on Spotify. I don't think they even knew what was happening. I still don't have an answer as happen, but it did. Now when the YouTube videos were taken down, there was another Not Like Us video that was posted back to Kendrick Lamar's YouTube page, but it was a brand new video. So like the views and everything has started fresh. And then eventually they got the original videos for Luther and Not Like Us back up on YouTube.

[DJ Envy]

But sounds like a hacking problem.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah. With the, the original video from a little over a year ago.

[DJ Envy]

Seems like somebody happened today.

[Lauren LaRosa]

But how do you hack a Apple Music or a YouTuber like for a big artist like Kendra?

[Just Hilarious]

All of those platforms?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, like what? That's not weird.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I thought I saw something. I thought I saw something online yesterday where they said the person that did the hacking, it's like, I can't remember the name.

[DJ Envy]

It seemed like a hack.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It is. It's a group. It's like a group. But my thing is this. If you're a Drake fan, right. And you decide to do something like that, I'm not saying that, you know, the person who did this was a Drake fan, but just that if, if you were, all you're doing is bringing more attention to Not Like Us and Kendrick. The week of your guys album coming out on Friday, like it should, you should make this all about Drake this week. There should be, there should be no conversations about Kendrick this week. So doing things like that is just making the conversation about Kendrick.

[DJ Envy]

And you said how they hacking everything, they hack into the FBI, they hack into government stuff, they hacking the finances, banks, like.

[Just Hilarious]

And also one would assume that somebody's being paid to do this by Drake. Like that's what. That's speculation as well. I know people are like, oh yeah, he's definitely paying somebody.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It was a little spooky. And I did, I reached out, out to DJ Khaled's team because I was trying to see if like we would get a response on the fact that Drake Charlamagne was saying that Drake is supposed to be taking shots at DJ Khaled.

[DJ Envy]

He didn't hear it yet.

[Lauren LaRosa]

No. But just the fact that it's happening and you know, he's staying his bubble. And I was literally told by someone in his camp, like, he has no issue.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

First of all, that man is not staying in the bubble no more. He's lost weight.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So stop disrespecting photos of. His name is. His new name is Slim Jim. I don't know if you guys know, but DJ Khaled goes by Slim Jim now. And he's over there minding his business. And they wanted to make it very clear. And he actually lost. I want. I did the comparison because a lot of people love to say he doesn't ever look like he lost weight. He does look like the way he lost.

[DJ Envy]

Salute to Cali.

[Just Hilarious]

He looks good.

[DJ Envy]

Look like he lost over 100 pounds. He looks really good.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Gotta see him in person. Angles, filters, you know what I'm saying? I'm wishing him the best, but, you know, just gotta see

[Lauren LaRosa]

moving. Yeah. Like you would have seen.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, okay, okay.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Give Slim Jim his props. Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm always give you props when you put that kind of work into yourself.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Definitely. All right, now shifting gears a bit. Another announcement that came out yesterday. Congratulations goes to Byron Allen. He will be buying BuzzFeed in a $120 million deal. He will take over as CEO. And again, I don't think people understand what we are watching go down right now. Like, people are buying up so much in the media space and he out here just doing it effortlessly.

[DJ Envy]

That's right.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah. Yep. So buzzfeed feed is a huge platform. He has a bunch of different other things that he does as well. Two comics unleashed, the CBS late night show, which will be now taking the spot where when Colbert goes off air. And yesterday, speaking of Co Bear, Co Bear Kimmel and a bunch of the other late night talk show hosts got together. They call themselves the Strike Force Five. If you guys remember, during the pandemic, they. They created this, this podcast because they were teaming up together to still keep their teams paid during that whole strike that went down. So it's Jimmy Kimmel, Fallon, Seth Meyers, John Oliver and Stephen Colbert and they were defending and fighting for the late night talk show space because Colbert is going off air on May 21st. Let's take a listen, make a case for late night.

[DJ Envy]

Look at the figures. And the fact of the matter is more people are watching late night television

[Charlamagne Tha God]

now than when Johnny Carson. Well, now obviously Johnny Carson had a

[DJ Envy]

lot of people watching one show, but we have a lot of shows with

[Charlamagne Tha God]

like 30,000 people watching each one.

[DJ Envy]

Right. And it adds up. And people watch us on YouTube now and people have a lot of different options, and yet they still. They keep coming to us. And I will tell you, when I

[Charlamagne Tha God]

got knocked off the air for a

[DJ Envy]

few days, people canceled Disney. Why isn't. Why. Why aren't you people canceling Paramount plus Cause you didn't have it in the first place. Well, Jimmy, why should you have to defend late night? I mean, why should that question even be asked? You don't hear like Ryan Seacrest doesn't

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[DJ Envy]

of Fortune or whatever the hell he's hosting.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah. So when Colbert goes off air, Byron Allen's Comics Unleashed will take over the time slot, and that'll start on May 22nd. So congratulations to Byron Allen. And I think that there's still room in that late night space. I just think it has to look different now. And, you know, I think Byron Allen's gonna give that side of our unfortunate words money. So we'll see what happens.

[DJ Envy]

All right. And that's the latest with Lauren Charlemagne. We give it that donkey too, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Before after the hour, y' all hit me to somebody named Chug the Builder. Like, I heard about him a few days ago. Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Remember the guy called in, I think, last week, right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Last week, yeah. Gave him donkey today. That was Friday. You're absolutely right. He got arrested Friday night. Oh, wow. Yes. We'll discuss when we come back.

[DJ Envy]

All right, we'll get to that. Next, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning with the donkey. It's time for donkey of the day.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

A bunch of donkeys around here. Yes, you are a donkey. What the hell? What the hell? Some donkey. Today's just sell himself.

[Caller or Listener]

Charlemagne.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Give it to him. Breakfast Club all day. Give it to him. Oh, man. Charlemagne, who you giving donkey to do tonight? Well, ro N donkey today for two. Tuesday, May 12, goes to a man named Dalton. Earthly or other. Is it Eitherly Dalton? Eitherly. Commonly known as Chug the building. Now, I just found out about this guy. Last Friday, somebody called in to give him donkey of the day. Apparently, he walks around. Excuse me, Nashville, Tennessee, calling black people the N word, Calling black people monkeys. And then when he's about to get hands put on him, he threatens to use pepper spray of mace. So he provokes people. Okay, black people. But then when black people react, he plays victim and now wants to use mesa pepper spray. Do we have any examples?

[DJ Envy]

He chimping out.

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[DJ Envy]

Camera?

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[DJ Envy]

They chipping out again.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The real Yans. Recognize real.

[DJ Envy]

Real.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Recognize real.

[DJ Envy]

But you, you fake.

[Lovey]

Oh, I'm not do you know what?

[DJ Envy]

America. Free speech. Tell me I can't say something again.

[Just Hilarious]

This is America.

[DJ Envy]

This is America.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I can call him if I want.

[DJ Envy]

Hey, is that black guy bothering you?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Is that bothering you? Oh, no, He laughed about it. What a good sport.

[DJ Envy]

That actually made me laugh, bro. That guy laughed.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Round of applause to the first brother. Okay? Because you know the problem I have with some of these scenarios? I don't be hearing enough slurs being hurled back at folks, okay? What be wrong with your tongues? All right, I know it's shocking when a crack ass cracker like CHUD the Builder tries you, but you got to take a deep breath, okay? And understand the power that lies within your tongue. All right? Cracker, peckawood, honky, milk cricket, white devil, pigskin punk. I'm just saying there's a few you can let go towards a white supremacist like CHUD the bill, okay? There's nothing wrong with matching energies, okay? And if you're in an open carry state, you got a legal firearm. If he threatens to mace you, then you flash him and let him know what could happen if he, you know, assaults you with that mace, okay?

[DJ Envy]

You can't flash. You can defend yourself, sir.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I didn't. I didn't even say defend.

[DJ Envy]

You said flash. You can't do that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, if you threaten me with mace, you let. You pull out your can of mace and show me you got your mace. I'm gonna show you. I got my thing too. Okay? So. So if you assault me with your mace, I' ma defend myself.

[DJ Envy]

I'll protect myself. That's right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, now. Now why you interrupt me?

[DJ Envy]

I'm sorry.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay. Jesus Christ. Now, there's nothing wrong with matching energies, okay? Ever. All right? Now, I don't think society understands. What I think society don't understand about people like CHUD is he's just a terrible human, okay? And terrible humans don't really care about other humans. I know he's a racist and you think that he might only acting ass towards black people, but no, okay? Guys like Chud the Builder will act in ass anywhere. And that's why we got. That's why he got arrested last Friday night. He got arrested in the Nashville restaurant called Bob's Chop House because he was acting an ass and folks in there wanted him to get off screen and he wouldn't get off screen. So when he was asked to leave, he started screaming racial slurs and announced he wouldn't pay the bill.

[Caller or Listener]

Okay?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let's go to TMZ for The report, please. Nuisance streamer. Chud the Builder was arrested on Saturday night after causing a scene in a Nashville steakhouse. According to cops, he was streaming inside the restaurant after being asked not to. And once he was confronted, he started yelling and making racial statements and causing a scene. He allegedly refused to pay for his 400 meal after eating it because he was being kicked out. Jail records show that he was later booked and then released on a five thousand dollar bond. See, people like Chud, we don't have no audio of him in the restaurant. Right? Okay? People like Chud, they got. They got to start showing people they tough for real, okay? You running around here like a pumpkin spice avenger. Like you got superhuman strength, okay? And bulletproof skin. I need to see if that expired yogurt energy got hands, man. Okay? We got to stop letting the CEOs of unseasoned chicken get off like this. Not to mention, he got out of jail and hours after his release, he posted a video of the event where he's taunting the driver in the street, calling him the N word, repeatedly mocking him with monkey noises. So he went back to the same bs he said when he got out of jail, he posted a video of him telling a black person, go get this N word. A banana.

[Caller or Listener]

Okay?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's when you got a reply. Go get this cracker some cheese.

[Caller or Listener]

All right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't even need physical violence to happen to guys like Chud, but verbal violence is just fine. You have to learn to say crackers towards racist ass crackers like Chud the Builder, okay? White. Yes. All right, White people, even you, you have to learn to identify racists like Chud as crackers too, okay? When a white racist is being racist, Cracker makes everything right with the world. It goes with everything. You can say crack ass, cracker, craft beer archaeologist. You can say crack ass, Bluetooth headset warrior. You can say crack ass, Final boss or pickleball. You can say, say crack ass. Lululemon. Lumberjack. Listen to me. You have absolutely zero reason to be kind to guys like Chud the Builder. He's a racist, okay? If he's being racist, you'll be racist right back with him, okay? In fact, kindness has been our weakness in regards to guys like Chud the Builder. If he wants to provoke black people with racial slurs, then threaten us with mace when we about to get on his ass. Then match his energy, be on whatever he's on, okay? Chud the Builder. It's only a matter of time before all that campaigning gets you elected. All Right. And you, sir, are running a hell of a campaign. Please let Chelsea Handler give Dalton Earthly, AKA Chud the builder, the biggest hee haw.

[Just Hilarious]

Hee haw. Hee haw.

[Mimi Brown]

That is way too much. Dan.

[Just Hilarious]

Mayonnaise.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

My girl Kathy Griffin in there.

[DJ Envy]

Please give this giant jar of mayo

[Charlamagne Tha God]

the biggest hee haw. Well, Chris Rock got this cracker Ass cracker. My girl still work at that restaurant? She still work. Okay. She still worked to drive through. Just making sure, that's all.

[DJ Envy]

All right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, indeed.

[DJ Envy]

Well, thank you for that donkey today.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, ma'.

[Caller or Listener]

Am.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's topic time.

[DJ Envy]

Call 800-585-1051 to join into the discussion

[Charlamagne Tha God]

with the Breakfast Club.

[DJ Envy]

Morning, everybody. It's DJ and just hilarious Charlamagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. If you're just joining us, we're talking about Kevin Hart's roast Sunday night. During the roast, people are mad at a particular comedian for saying something I think went too far. I didn't find it funny, but let's hear the joke one time.

[K]

It's true he lost his gig hosting the Academy Awards because of some homophobic tweets, but you'd be homophobic, too, if you were eye level with everyone's. He got into a fist fight on a private plane. Proof that no matter how much money black people have, they're still just gonna act like ninjas is fighting. Like, Bill Cosby Hart is a black comedian from Philadelphia. Unlike Bill Cosby, women don't know when Kevin is inside of them. You've done good, though, Kevin. The black community is so proud of you right now. George Floyd is looking up at us all laughing so hard that he can't breathe.

[DJ Envy]

So we're asking 800-585-1051, what are your thoughts now, Jess, you're a comedian. Did you find it funny? Did you think it was too far?

[Just Hilarious]

No, I did not find it funny. Yes, it was too far. I mean, nobody in the room found it funny. I mean, you heard, like, little chuckles, but you more so heard like. Like, you can't believe he said that.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

Like.

[Just Hilarious]

But I talked to him on the carpet. Like, he. And he. I already knew that he was gonna say the joke. Like, the lowercase N word joke. Cause he whispered in my ear and told me that he was gonna say it.

[DJ Envy]

Well, he told you he called you a.

[Just Hilarious]

No, you can call me whispered in your ear, you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what I'm gonna do tonight.

[Just Hilarious]

Because the jokes that I was ask who I knew were going to be roasting Kevin. I said, if you can Give me a sneak peek of a joke. Like, what's one? Like, you know, and he was like, I don't want to say it because it's been good.

[Caller or Listener]

I don't want to say it.

[Just Hilarious]

I was like, no, no, no. Let me know what's up, you know? And so he was like. He said the. The lowercase N word or whatever. If he. Because Kevin's little, everybody was coming at him about his size or whatever. So he was a lowercase N word. And I was like, you gonna say that for real? And he was like, you gotta see. I was like, all right, well, you better stand on it if you do say. And he walked off. But Jeff Ross, Shane Gillis, and me, a lot of people had a lot of, you know, they made a lot of remarks and jokes that had people visibly uncomfortable. A lot of the room was visibly uncomfortable, especially with the George Floyd joke.

[DJ Envy]

Now what. What did George Floyd's family say? Lauren?

[Lauren LaRosa]

So a spokesperson for the Gianna and George Floyd foundation, his name is Travis Kings. He says that the family is baffled and disgusted by Tony's apparent obsession with telling George Floyd jokes. Jokes. And just. You asked me earlier if Tony had said another joke about George Floyd before.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And I went and looked it up in there. There was some backlash about something that he said about George Floyd during the Tom Brady rose. So that's where I think the obsession word is coming from. And they just say that this is sad for the culture and they wish that somebody would have told Tony to stay off of that topic.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. My spirit doesn't agree with joking on violent, tragic death. I don't care if it's George Floyd, Charlie Kirk, Cheryl Underwood's husband killing himself, Pete Davis's father dying in the World Trade Center. I just don't find joking on those violent tragedy magic situations funny. You know what I mean?

[DJ Envy]

Did Pete Davidson do a Charlie Kirk joke, though?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Did he?

[Just Hilarious]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Well, listen. Well, we got Mo on the line, and Mo was like, are people mad at Pete Davis now?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, I'm sure they are, but people

[Just Hilarious]

spewed on over in the mind.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I sent Mimi some people that were

[Just Hilarious]

reacting definitely laughed in the room when he said that one. When he said that about Charlie, hell yeah. People was cracking up.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, wow. We got Mo in the line. Mo, Good morning.

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[Caller or Listener]

Good morning.

[DJ Envy]

Morning. What's your opinion?

[Caller or Listener]

My opinion is, like you say, you know, first of all, the Pete Davidson, he did his joke. You know, I didn't see a lot of outrage. And my only thing is, I'm wondering, why is Everybody. So in the uproar about. About George Floyd, what makes it more, you know, different than Rodney King didn't die. But I'm old enough to remember Rodney King jokes from people that were hilarious.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Young man, young man, you can't. You can't just say, well, Rodney King didn't die. That. That's the reason people are upset because George Floyd died. Come on, my brother.

[Caller or Listener]

Well, you got Trayvon Martin. You know what I mean? So what's the difference between Charlie Kirk. Is it because Charlie Kirk's white?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know if you heard what I said. I said I don't agree with people joking about violent, tragic deaths. I don't care if it's George Floyd, Charlie Kirk, Cheryl Underwood's husband, killing himself.

[Caller or Listener]

Now, joking about somebody's death is different than having jokes after death.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, Because I'm.

[Caller or Listener]

I'm the type that we going mama jokes, and you tell me, hey, my mama dead. I'm gonna tell you to dig the be up and let her hear these jokes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But listen, my brother, they're making jokes about how these people died. You know what I'm saying? Like, make a joke how he died.

[Caller or Listener]

He said he's in the grave looking up and can't breathe.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Do you remember? I remember what the other guy said.

[Caller or Listener]

That's not how he died, though.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hang up on this.

[Just Hilarious]

You got people like that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Everybody. Everybody's entitled to their opinion. Like I said, my personal opin is I don't like joking about people's violent, tragic death because that could be anybody. And you would not feel that way if the shoe was on the other foot. If somebody was making jokes about your family member who died in that way, you'd be ready to fight.

[DJ Envy]

I didn't find it funny. Cookie, good morning.

[Caller or Listener]

Good morning.

[DJ Envy]

Good morning, Cookie. What's your thoughts?

[Caller or Listener]

My thoughts is that was not funny. It was unfunny. It was uncalled for. Like Charlamagne said about the builder, that was some cracker ass. Cracker type bull sniffle. Okay, don't let us cracking folks. Yeah. Don't let us get the cracking joke with the network.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, sir.

[DJ Envy]

Thank you so much.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I also don't think we realize we dealing with real humans, like real people. Folks who got families. Like George Floyd got a whole family who's still here. Like people like Charlie Kerr got a whole family who's still here, and they died violent, tragic deaths. I wouldn't want nobody playing with my loved one like that.

[DJ Envy]

I'm with you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I'm saying?

[DJ Envy]

I'M with you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And remember, what's funny to you is definitely triggering to somebody else. I understand comedy, but I also understand, you know, being human.

[Just Hilarious]

And it was weird. I mean, yeah, we on the George Floyd joint, but like also her husband, Cheryl Underwood husband committed suicide. Like it was so many issues wrong. Like he took his own life. So I didn't think that was funny either. I mean, she approved the joke. She a comedian, she had a good sport. But that wasn't funny to me either.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. And I know Cheryl incorporated in her stand up. Pete incorporates, you know, his father dying in his stand up. But that's their trauma. And even if they give Joe give other comedians license to tell their trauma, that's on them. I just. Personally, I'm not making no jokes about somebody's bye. We're talking about violent, tragic.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

But not only that, violent deaths. The comedian that said. What's his name again?

[Just Hilarious]

Tony. Rick.

[DJ Envy]

Tony Hinchco of. It seems like he has a history of doing racist jokes, correct?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, yeah.

[DJ Envy]

So, I mean, so that's why his things even more.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right.

[DJ Envy]

You know what I mean? Because it seems like that's his thing. That's his shtick. Right. He called Jessa in his. In our ear, you know, I mean, that's not.

[Just Hilarious]

Call me.

[DJ Envy]

I'm just joking.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

I'm just joking.

[DJ Envy]

I'm just joking. But that seems like that's his thing. That's what makes it hurt even more.

[Lauren LaRosa]

We have the Pete Davidson audio too, if you guys want to play.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Should you warn the other. When a white person comes to you and says. I'm gonna say, was it just his job to say, hey, guys, white man in here armed with the nword and he plans to use it tonight.

[Just Hilarious]

Absolutely not. That's Kevin Hart's friend.

[DJ Envy]

Hello, who's this?

[Caller or Listener]

Yes, my name's. How are you?

[DJ Envy]

I'm good. How you feeling?

[Caller or Listener]

I'm good, I'm good. I love you guys. Listen every morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Thank you very much.

[DJ Envy]

Your phone cutting in and out. Can you take us off Bluetooth for speaker if you have on one of those.

[Caller or Listener]

Okay, I have. Can you hear me better now?

[DJ Envy]

Yes, ma'.

[Caller or Listener]

Am.

[DJ Envy]

Where you calling from from?

[Caller or Listener]

I'm calling from Pennsylvania on my way to New York City.

[DJ Envy]

Okay. All right, well, talk to us. What's your thoughts, mama?

[Caller or Listener]

I like the. When people can do good things, certain things about the death, I think it should be off limit because a lot of people heal differently and it takes some longer than others. And then to talk about joy,

[Just Hilarious]

you

[Caller or Listener]

have to have some type of Sensitivity.

[DJ Envy]

I agree with you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What was funny to you is triggering to somebody else. If you. If you George Floyd family or you knew George Floyd, or if you had somebody who got killed, who was killed at the hands of the police, or, you know, died a tragic death like George Floyd, ain't nothing funny about that.

[DJ Envy]

I'm with you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's not that fun there. You can't even make that funny.

[DJ Envy]

Hello? Who's this?

[Caller or Listener]

Yeah, yo, what's up? This is Rob out of Brooklyn.

[DJ Envy]

Rob out of Brooklyn, talk to us. What's your thoughts now?

[Caller or Listener]

I got a question for Charlemagne.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, sir.

[Caller or Listener]

Charlemagne. You're offended by the George Floyd joke?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I didn't. I didn't say I was offended. I just said that personally. My karma and my energy. I'm not making jokes about somebody's violent, tragic death.

[Caller or Listener]

All right? Because we're not showing offense for the Charlie Kirk joke.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I literally said, I don't care if it's George Floyd, Charlie Kirk, Cheryl Underwood's husband killing himself, Pete Davidson's father dying in the World Trade Center. I don't find joking on violent tragedy, tragic situations funny. Like when somebody dies like that, because that could be any of us. We can get, God forbid, shot in the neck or shot somewhere. Like, I don't find that funny. Or getting choked out by the police or choked out by anybody. I don't find that funny.

[Caller or Listener]

All right. I was just basically pointing out the bubble that we all could live in. We would be offended by one joke about one community, but not the next, because we don't see it that way.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nah. Cause death can happen to all of us.

[DJ Envy]

It was funny.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Death. Don't care about your race. Deaf. Don't care about your social status. Deaf. Don't care about your gender. None of that.

[DJ Envy]

Hello? Who's this?

[Caller or Listener]

This is Victoria.

[DJ Envy]

Hey, Victoria. What's your thoughts?

[Caller or Listener]

I. I think these are starting to go a little bit too far. But, I mean, summers up, honestly, was funny, but I do think it's starting to go a little bit too far, because, of course, people are starting to get hurt. And, you know, children are upset with the whole George Floyd joke. So I think it's getting to be a little too much. But there was some chuckles, definitely.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Chuckles at what?

[Caller or Listener]

I mean, just some of the comments that you can kind of just. I mean, I think Chelsea Handler, she's funny in general, so some of the stuff she said was funny.

[Just Hilarious]

That was definitely some funny stuff. I think even Tony Hinchcliffe, he was. He was funny, too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. We're talking about particular jokes. Now, we're not talking about the whole roast. We're talking about this specific joke about George Floyd and the other times that def was joked about in this.

[Caller or Listener]

Yeah, now those I definitely didn't like. I think that's out of order for sure.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[DJ Envy]

Well, thank you for checking in, because

[Caller or Listener]

his foundation, like, his foundation is trying to do positive work, and he. It's not like he ever got the chance to have a positive impression publicly. His whole story was negative. And so to keep kind of, you know, kicking his back in, I think is really unfair. So that's. That's the other thing. And I think, you know, his foundation is trying to start giving him a positive light, and that's really hard when people instead of sticking it to him. So I think that part is on video. But have y' all heard of family offices?

[Just Hilarious]

I think she's talking about.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who you talking about?

[Just Hilarious]

Are you talking about Tony Hiffe? Are you talking about George Floyd?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, got you, got you, got you.

[Caller or Listener]

But. But have y'.

[DJ Envy]

All.

[Caller or Listener]

Like I said, his foundation is trying to do a lot of good work. Have y' all heard about family offices? Yes. So hopefully, like, his family, as well as other black families will be able to do more as far as the family office space. I'm trying to work on a book right now about family offices because I feel like. Like a lot of black families don't know that that's the way that they should be using to build wealth. So that's something that I'm working on. And so I was happy to hear that George Floyd's family was having a. They have a foundation that's doing work. Hopefully they're also using it as a wealth building tool. But I don't think that what Tony said was really helpful because it's not shining the right light on the work that they're doing. And George Floyd, unfortunately, never got that chance to be seen positively.

[DJ Envy]

All right, thank you for your call. What's the moral of the story? If there is a moral?

[Just Hilarious]

Yo, did y' all hear the. The. When Shane Gillis said the. The lynch joke, Y' all thought that was funny too, when he said Kevin is so little, they would lynch him from a bun side tree. He would get lynched from a bon side tree.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I didn't hear that.

[DJ Envy]

I didn't hear that one.

[Just Hilarious]

Yeah. Oh, they must have took a bunch of stuff out.

[Lauren LaRosa]

No, there was also the one about him being the littlest black, and he was like. He talked about him being like the. The little is like, he would be like the period of a sentence, it was a lot of things that they were saying that were racially like, charged jokes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But, I mean, there's racial, there's racial jokes that are funny. There's. There's racial jokes that are funny. But, like, I just don't see the humor in joking about somebody's death. Like, not just deaf, violent, right. Like, tragic, like, like George Floyd got choked out by the police for nine minutes and some change, like Charlie Kirk got shot in the neck. Cheryl Underwood, Z husband, committed suicide. Pete Davidson's father died in the World trade Center in 9 11. Like, you know, just personally, that's just not my cup of tea.

[DJ Envy]

All right, well, you've been working in the garage with your dad every week,

[Lovey]

Monday to Sunday, trying to get the old school up and running.

[DJ Envy]

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[Lovey]

So you have that feeling of accomplishment. You did it.

[DJ Envy]

Then your dad throws you the keys

[Lovey]

and says those three magic words. All yours, son. Yep. That same car belonged to your grandpa

[DJ Envy]

and that your dad helped him fix. It's yours.

[Lovey]

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[Lauren LaRosa]

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[DJ Envy]

Well, let's get right to the latest.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm the home girl that knows everything.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She be having the latest on

[Lovey]

the

[DJ Envy]

Latest with Lauren LaRosa.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Sometimes you have facts, sometimes you have details, sometimes you have a little bit of everything. Well, it's the latest brought to you by Top Dog Law on the Breakfast Club.

[Lauren LaRosa]

All righty, guys. So Pitchfork has started a conversation. Honestly, Chris Brown kind of started the conversation before this Pitchfork review because Chris Brown had posted last week thanking fans for listening to the album, and he says that he saw some of the critiques that were, you know, skewed. Some people liked it, some people didn't like his new album, Brown. But he says his last album and a lot of his music always has to grow on people. Now, Pitchfork, they are coming out swinging against Chris Brownett's album. So first of all, they tweeted out their review, like, the link to it, right? And in the tweet, it literally says, this album is a real piece of shit.

[Just Hilarious]

Damn right.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So then they give them a rate of 1.3, and they basically are saying on this album that.

[Caller or Listener]

That they're having.

[Lauren LaRosa]

There's a lot to it. They lean into, you know, the narrative that he's trying to shape from the beginning of the album with Leave Me Alone, which is obviously a play on the Michael Jackson song, with controlling his own narrative. And in reading the Pitchfork review, to me, it sounds like they have an issue with the fact that he's trying to control his narrative and what they think his narrative should be. So of course they mentioned the Rihanna things and they. They. There was even one quote that I took. It says, and if he keeps reminding fans of the nostalgia for his youthful innocence and how cool his backflips are, eventually enough people will take his version of history as gospel or just stop caring about whatever mistakes he made altogether. I don't know what their thing is with him. I haven't fully gotten through the album, but I didn't think that it deserved all of this.

[Just Hilarious]

Obviously, they do not like him. Yeah, I thought the album was. Was cool. Now there are a few bops on there that, you know, we can do without because, honestly, I feel like this Brown album shows his maturity. And you can hear Leon Thomas all over the album. Like, he obviously help produce or something. I like it. It's. It's mature. But there's a few songs on there. It's like, all right, come on, Brown. Grow up. Come on, Come on. You know, I mean, but not. It's a piece of ish. Not the 1.3. Not bringing up the past.

[DJ Envy]

You said girl, Girl. What. What song? Like, what would make you say girl, grow up? Is he too much in the clubs. What is he talking about?

[Just Hilarious]

I mean, because if it's. Because you got to think about it, like, it's Brown. Even. Even the. The COVID The album cover gives, like, oh, okay. He wants some. Some new, like, real R B. Like, making music for the grown women, the people that. I mean. Cause he's grown. Like, he's grown as ish now. You know, he's not young anymore. Not singing about the clubs, the bitches, the bottles, the, you know, baby making and, you know, all of that. The things that he used to be on.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Is it possible to critique somebody's music without bringing, you know, their personal issues into it? Because I feel like if you're Pitchfork and you're a music critic and your job is to critique the music, you should just critique the music. How you feel about him personally and what has happened in his personal life. Life throughout his career, that should have nothing to do with his actual album.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I. I guess I hear you. I think what they were trying to come from the standpoint of is, like, the intro, what we played in here. Chris Brown is talking about all the things, the media headlines, the narratives that people throw on him. So I think.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But it's the song jamming.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I played it for y'.

[Caller or Listener]

All.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I love the intro. I thought that it was a great way to start the conversation around his new music. Yeah, I just. Even when they get to it. To be honest, I didn't read the full Pitchfork review because I just didn't like the tone and the way that it was set up. I felt like the way that it was set up, it kind of leads you to think one way. And I. I thought it was.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You're talking about a review that you haven't even read.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Well, I read majority of it, but I stopped because I felt like it was very unfair to what it was set up. Like, the first six paragraphs is all about Rihanna.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

His stuff, the landing.

[Just Hilarious]

Lauren.

[Lauren LaRosa]

No, I. No, you know. You know what you're doing when you start that way with Chris Brown is my point. And Tank brought a very good response to a lot of the critiques. He says, the problem is most of you offer destructive criticism. You disguise your hate for opinion. Imagine doing your best, and someone just walks up to you saying, I hate this. What's your first response? You expect us as human beings to be. To accept it and move on. While I respect humility in this moment, he does not owe you that. Love or hate it. Have some respect just by the way that people are critiqued.

[Just Hilarious]

Definitely. I. And look, I Didn't even hear this. I. I never heard anything bad about the album. I mean, it's only been out a week, but I haven't heard any of this.

[DJ Envy]

Brown. Rihanna issue was 17 years ago though, and.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And nobody buys albums anymore because of Pitchforks ratings.

[DJ Envy]

Not at all.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Pitchforks critiques. Anybody's critiques.

[Caller or Listener]

Acting.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Chris Brown was responding more to the fans because I've seen fans doing reviews as well too. But yeah. So real quick, I wanted to mention, while we're in the lane of like, just critiques and conversation, Prince's official Instagram account, they reposted something. It says Michael Jackson. The world. Oh, owes him an apology. And it's.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It's a thread, right? So it's this thread. They talk about how they say we took a human and turned him into a symbol. Then we tore him apart. The greatest entertainer on earth. A once in an. In a once in a generational soul, loved by billions, yet judged by millions, accused, headlines mocked, canceled before most people ever took a deeper look. But it's. There's a bunch of threads in this, but it's basically going down the conversation of, like, what if we took a step back and looked at Michael Jackson as a human who was just very sensitive and stopped sexualizing certain things. Things. But people are picking this up because Prince's account literally just posted this about an hour ago.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Somebody's gonna do it. It's gonna be a documentary that comes out that, you know, shows people, you know, how he was railroaded, how he was targeted throughout his whole career, how he was investigated for 17 years and FBI didn't finally find nothing. How he was found not guilty in a court of law.

[DJ Envy]

I hope the next movie does it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't want them. I want the documentary.

[DJ Envy]

I want the movie.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Well, Charlotte, we got some things before we get on up out of here.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. First of all, dropping the clues bombs for Mimi Brown. Okay. You know, Mimi Brown does our front page news, you know, in the 6:00 clock and the 7:00 clock hour.

[DJ Envy]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And you know, just like with the latest with Lauren. Latest with Lauren. Lauren, you have a daily podcast on the Black Effect Podcast network called the Latest.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes, I do.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Where you do entertainment news, entertainment news,

[Lauren LaRosa]

pop culture, and conversations that shake the room in entertainment.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, Mimi Brown is launching a front page news daily on the Black Effect Podcast network. What you gonna be talking about, Mimi?

[Mimi Brown]

We're gonna be talking about politics, everyday life, your money, things that affect you, how you live your life. We're gonna cover everything. We'll get into a little bit of pop culture, but believe that to Lauren. But we're gonna have some fun with it, too. It starts today, so you can download the first episode now. It's on the Black Effect podcast network. It's called Front Page with Mimi Brown.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. Available everywhere. You listen to podcasts. Subscribe to Front Page News right now.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Congratulations.

[Dr. Cheyenne Bryant]

All right, thank y'.

[Mimi Brown]

All.

[DJ Envy]

Thank you so much. And the latest is brought to you by.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It's brought to you by Top Dog Law. Any accident, big or small, called Top Dog Law.

[DJ Envy]

All right, let's get to the People's Choice mixes. The Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[Lovey]

Good morning, everybody.

[DJ Envy]

It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Loan Rose is here. We got a special guest in the building. Elections are today, ladies and gentlemen. And we have Mayor Rob Charles Baraka

[Charlamagne Tha God]

back in the building.

[Lovey]

Good morning.

[Just Hilarious]

Good morning.

[Lovey]

How are you?

[DJ Envy]

How you feeling?

[Lovey]

I'm good, brother. I'm good, I'm good. Good to be here.

[DJ Envy]

You never tired of this? This is what, your fourth term?

[Lovey]

I'm always tired.

[DJ Envy]

So let me ask you, as you know, you, you're three terms in, what could be done different in Newark, New Jersey?

[Lovey]

A lot, man. There's a lot of stuff that we still have to finish. I mean, obviously we still need to create the 24 hour nightlife, you know, and there's a lot of things that, that has to happen. We're building a walking bridge like the Highline in Newark to connect the East Ward to the downtown area. That'll trigger a bunch of development downtown. Thousands of units of housing, retail, commercial. So that's exactly what we need, you know, to make happen. There's more affordable housing that we have to build. We have to build. We're trying to build at least 2,000 more units, affordable housing, some transitional housing as well. Then lastly, we, we're going to attack this food, desert stuff stuff that, that that Newark has in various communities. We're building five, and we were doing this a long time before these folks for New York did it, but, you know, y' all got a lot more money than us. So five, you know, we call it mutual aid. Grocery stores where you pay based on your income, but they're run by non profits and we're doing some public private ones as well. So, you know, that, you know, continue to reduce violence and crime, continue to raise people's quality of life, invest in black and brown businesses. So we'll continue to do those things.

[Lauren LaRosa]

How do you like, you know, measure your success throughout the Terms like, what was success for you? First time, second time, third time, like, what are you, what are you measuring against your goals?

[Lovey]

What the objectives were in the beginning. I mean, most people who run a one run because they think they should, they could do better, they want to do this or that. But specific goals, like our specific goals when we first came in was to reduce violence. We had 113, 14 homicides, right. It was to begin to build affordable housing in the city, balance our budget. I mean, the budget was in bad shape. So there was very specific things that we needed to do and turn the economy towards black and brown folks. And we began to do that. So violence in the city hasn't been as low as it is since 1953. So we started, you know, my first year. When we got there, we were down gradually, but not significantly. But then, you know, we began to get the hang of it and it began to reduce year by year by year.

[DJ Envy]

I was going to ask, you know, a lot of people say sometimes that long term leadership is not too great, Right. Because it gets people comfortable.

[Lovey]

That's right.

[DJ Envy]

But I feel like with you, it's a lot different. And why is that?

[Lovey]

Well, I live in Newark. I mean, my family and friends and community people I love the most. And my pride is there. I got these people every single day. So at the end of the day, I feel like, like I said earlier, there's a goal, there's an end that we have to reach, you know, and, you know, I feel like in this race that I'm in now, you know, I had the ability to run for governor last year. I mean, I came in second in the field of six. It was incredible. And I felt like I was defending the city for the most part. Now I feel like I'm defending myself. Right? And I think that's for a reason. And so I feel like this, I'm on the backside of my career on the, the decline side, you know, and it's about legacy at this point. And like, what am I going to leave when I walk away? What's going to. What, what will I be able to say that we've actually accomplished?

[DJ Envy]

One thing you, you've done with Newark is slowly you've been able to change the stereotypes of Newark.

[Lovey]

Right?

[DJ Envy]

You said Newark is not broke, it's not failing, it's not criminals. We are beautiful people. Why do people still give Newark that bad stereotypes? Even though, like, when you go downtown in Newark, there's a beautiful restaurant, you know, this amazing concert, there's so much to do In Newark, I think it's so hard to change the stereotype of, of Newark.

[Lovey]

Well, those stigmas stick, you know, unfortunately, unfortunately, long stigmas. You know, we were the car theft capital of the world. You know, the crime was.

[DJ Envy]

All.

[Lovey]

Was out of control. You know, people were used to that. And a lot of times we wore that as residents of the city. We wore it like, we wore it almost as a life vest. Like, we walked around and talked about how tough in rigging and rock rough Newark was. We were the brick city. And so to, to change your Persona and the culture, the way people view you, there's a lot of things that, that, that have to change. And one of it is the way we view ourselves, the way we talk about our city and where we present it to other people. You know, we, we got something out of it. I think now, you know, it's time for us to grow up and move away and do something else, leave that behind.

[DJ Envy]

One thing I would say, you know, when I knew you were coming, I just reached out to a bunch of Newark people to see, you know, what are your thoughts? What do you need? What could I ask the mayor? A lot of these, I don't know if you can help, but you've been able to help people in things that didn't necessarily, you know, mean this to them. But people say that food is high, right? They're saying when they go get groceries, groceries are high. They say that this is true. A lot of times the rent, they're raising rent and people can't afford it. They're saying the gas prices are high.

[Lovey]

You know what I mean?

[DJ Envy]

And I don't know you can help the gas prices, but, you know, so what do you tell, you know, your Newark residents and your Newark family members of what they can do at housing?

[Lovey]

Well, one, we have to learn, like us, our folks in these communities, we have to learn civics. Like, we have to know the relationship between city government, county, state, federal government. All people know is the mayor, the governor, and the president of the United States.

[DJ Envy]

They're all the same, right? My gas is high. I'm believing Mayor Ross Baraka.

[Lovey]

And so we have to figure that out, right? And it means that we have to vote in every election and participate all the time and push back against a lot of things that are happening. And food prices are high, which is why we're building these grocery stores, which is why we are, are creating opportunities. People have access to food, put more money in people's pockets so they could do more with the, with the cash. That they have. That's something that we can do. Right. With the help obviously at a non profit in the private sector community, you can't do it alone. You have to have a nice unified group of folks that are willing to collaborate around that. So yeah, I mean the gas prices and everything else, we got to talk to the President about this war in Iran. I mean the crazy thing about the gas prices that affects everything. So it's affecting what it costs for us to pave the road, roads like because the, the, the fuel in the trucks that come out to pave the roads, they're giving you higher cost. So we have to pay more as a city. So it's going to raise everybody costs. I did something simple as that like trying to get asphalt. The, the prices are way up.

[DJ Envy]

Can you talk about one more thing? Can you talk about how the things that Donald Trump has affected your city and, and what he has done to affect your city?

[Lovey]

Yeah, I mean, mean like people said indirectly, well that directly food, gas, you know, all of those things. But, but ultimately his attack on social services, the, the attack on, on snap benefits.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right.

[Lovey]

The attack on housing.

[Caller or Listener]

Right.

[Lovey]

Making it more difficult for us to give people vouchers or deal with, invest in public housing. Which means, you know, it's going to be, the rent is going to continue to increase.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right.

[Lovey]

Because it'll be a seller's market because you have more people that need housing than the housing that exists. Right. So all of those costs are going to increase and people just think the gas and like I alluded to the gas club, but the gas affects the supply chain all together. That means all prices are going to go up and it's going to go in your, in your hand. You have to pay for it.

[Caller or Listener]

Right.

[Lovey]

As well. I mean cutting those services and giving more money to the, to the super wealthy is going to affect working class people all up and down the state and throughout the country.

[DJ Envy]

Country. Now let me ask you this too. You know, with young black voters especially, what do you think young black voters are demanding from leadership right now that the previous generation did?

[Lovey]

Well, they want more inclusion. Like they want to be involved in all of this stuff. Before we was trying to get young people to be interested. Now they want to be in it. Like they want to be involved they, in all aspects of it, whether it's marketing and media because of all of this stuff, they want to be heard and listened to. To. I think all young people want to be heard and listened to. But I think the, the, the, it's becoming more and more. It's getting louder and louder now more than anything. And they want to be able to participate in a city. They want to engage in the economic night, the economic life in the town as well. If they see development of housing going up, they want to be a part of it. They think they're smart, and they feel like they should be a part of all the stuff that that's happening in the city.

[DJ Envy]

Well, that's right. Well, elections are today. Make sure you get out there and vote. And one thing I will say about Mayor Ras Baraka, I've been in a lot of different cities. I've spoke to a lot of different mayors. Mayor Ras Baraka is probably one of the very few mayors that is actually outside with the people. I mean, Ras Baraka will pull up at an event, he will pull up at the gym, he will walk down your block, he will ask you, what's wrong? What could I do better? And I think we need more of that. And I love the fact that you do that. And sometimes I'm there and I don't even say hello because I just want to see. And the fact that he'll walk into an event, major HBCU event, speak to people, shake hands, kiss babies, he'll walk down the block, he'll go to the gym. And I think a lot of mayors can learn from that. Just see the people, touch the people, talk to the people and speak to the people. And I appreciate you, brother.

[Lovey]

Thank you, man.

[DJ Envy]

All right, well, salute to Ras Baraka for joining us this morning. Make sure you get out there and vote. Today is primary day, so go out and vote, man. No matter what city you're from or state you're in, go out and vote. Vote, vote, vote, vote. All right, salute to Cheyenne Bryant for joining us this morning. Her new new book, live your Promises out right now, she be having a therapist, and the doctors pissed the F off. Boy, they be on her neck.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And also, well, honestly, that's who she need to be sitting down, having conversations with. You know, I mean, I think that it would behoove her on her book tour to go sit down with, you know, some actual mental health professionals. You know what I mean? Like, there's people out there who are licensed psychiatrists, you know, who. Who do have platforms and can have conversations with her.

[DJ Envy]

I don't think she wants to. I. I think. I think she said she doesn't really care to answer to any of those people. She only cares about her clients and the people that support her. She doesn't care about the people that are.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think it's only right, though. I mean, I'm telling you what she said. Oh, she said that?

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, I was. I wasn't here.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, yeah. Something to that effect.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like she said she don't care. What now?

[DJ Envy]

Something to the effect of she's only focusing on her listeners, her followers, and she's not really concerned with the people that are talking negatively about her or trying to, I guess.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't think it's always negative, though. I think sometimes, man, everybody's open for correction. Like you should be. I think that there's nothing wrong with having a village, you know, having a community that's willing to correct you.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. That world of having a license, having being a doctor, studying under a license. I really don't know. We asked a zillion one question. She answered it. And salute to all the. I mean, so many different therapists hit me up with questions and asking and saying things were right. Things weren't right. But I hope they. I hope she does have that conversation. I would love to get them down to the bottom of it, but you got a positive note?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I do, man. Positive note is simply this, man. Remember, being at peace means that you no longer have the need to prove anything to anyone. Okay? You don't need outside validation. You don't need to tell your side of the story anymore. Even when you hear a dozen rumors that tell an untrue version of who you are, you have no desire to correct them. That is true.

[DJ Envy]

Peace.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay? Guard your heart. Y' all have a great day. Breakfast Club bitches.

[DJ Envy]

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