FULL SHOW: Snoop Dogg Faces Backlash After Parents Brought Child on Stage During Performance + Julius ‘Dr. J’ Erving Interview

Summary

The Breakfast Club — April 23, 2026

Episode: Snoop Dogg Faces Backlash After Parents Brought Child on Stage During Performance + Julius ‘Dr. J’ Erving Interview

Hosts: DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious (Dr. Jess), Charlamagne Tha God, Lauren LaRosa
Main Guests: Julius 'Dr. J' Erving

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Episode Overview

This vibrant episode of The Breakfast Club blends lively banter, sharp commentary on current events, pop culture, and sports, with centerpiece segments featuring Snoop Dogg’s recent viral controversy and a deep, insightful interview with basketball legend Julius "Dr. J" Erving. The team also handles callers' personal dilemmas with their trademark humor and honesty, discusses issues from the power and culture of hip-hop to ethics in law enforcement, and celebrates achievements in Black entrepreneurship and literature.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Front Page News & Current Events

• Election & Redistricting Battles (06:37–11:03)
  • Virginia judge blocks redistricting plan after voters approve it; legal appeals expected.
  • Larger concerns about nationwide redistricting and election fairness heading into the midterms.
  • Discussion of Ghislaine Maxwell possibly seeking clemency in exchange for testimony about Jeffrey Epstein, with hosts strongly against a pardon (Charlamagne: “If she decides to talk...should be because she's trying to get her soul right before she go to hell” - 10:16).
  • Pentagon shakeup: Navy Secretary John Phelan abruptly fired amid policy disagreements.
• Economic Impacts of War in Iran (36:06)
  • War is raising gas, travel, even condom prices; access to safe sex could be affected ("Bring back old-school methods like the ear wax test" — Charlamagne, joking at 36:53).
• Army Age Limit Changes (33:54–35:49)
  • Army raises enlistment age to 42 to attract more recruits and now allows single-marijuana-possession entrants without waivers.
  • Charlamagne jokes about recruiting young 'shiesty mask' wearers and inmates.

2. Viral Topics and Hip-Hop Conversations

Snoop Dogg’s 4/20 Show Controversy

• Topic: During his 4/20 Red Rocks show, a parent placed a young girl on stage near a stripper pole and dancing performer.
• Responses:
  • Hosts agree it was poor judgment by the parents, not Snoop ("You should be mad at the parents, not Snoop" — Charlamagne, 73:26).
  • Jess: “If we know who we're going to see and what his act consists of, why would you bring your child there...and why would you push your child up on stage?” (72:23).
  • Charlamagne: “It was a 4:20 event. Everybody was high, ladies and gentlemen. Nobody was thinking...” (72:44).
  • Envy, Jess, and others argue Snoop could have acted but ultimately blame the adults.

Complex’s Top 100 Rappers List Debate (26:32–30:36)

• Complex releases a "top 100 rappers right now" list, sparking familiar frustration:
  • Charlamagne: “They do that for this—for rage bait...There's not a hundred rappers that are hot right now" (28:40).
  • Debate over what makes an artist "hot"—output, anticipation, or just clout.
  • Noted “lack of women in top ranks” (Cardi B at #11, Doja Cat at #20).
  • DJ Envy questions the shifting criteria, pointing out that legends like Jay-Z are ranked despite no recent releases.

Little Nas X’s Sexuality & Representation (109:40)

• Interview recap: Lil Nas X confirms he's gay but says he doesn’t care about conforming or “being a darling” for the queer community.
• Charlamagne jokes about debates around Lil Nas X’s identity and challenges the idea that he is especially flamboyant compared to other celebs.

Russell Brand on Age of Consent (104:42)

• Clip discussed: Brand, under legal scrutiny in the UK, admits to sleeping with a 16-year-old, calling it legal there but “exploitative.”
• Charlamagne/Envy/Jess express discomfort, emphasizing that “legal” isn’t always the same as “ethical” (107:05).

3. Notable Guest Interview — Julius "Dr. J" Erving (39:14–61:50)

Intro & Cultural Impact

• Dr. J discusses his journey: New York roots, how he fell in love with basketball ("Basketball chose me" — 40:55), and the early effect of seeing Black athletes like Elgin Baylor and Connie Hawkins.
• Talks street ball, Rucker League, and “being myself as much as I was allowed to be” in systems stifling Black expression (44:52).
• Personal growth, UMass experience as the only Black player, and shifting athletic landscape.

Dr. J on the ABA, NBA, and Race

• The ABA as cultural and workplace integration ("The ABA was the true integral integration of the workplace" — 51:37).
• Describes early contracts: left college for $125K, which was a fortune compared to his parents’ incomes.
• On the Sixers, selling of his contract for $3 million, relating it to “getting sold, just like back in the days of slavery” (54:42).
• Endorsements and mythos: Dr. J’s business trajectory, his legacy, and clarifying he never profited from “Dr. J’s” retail chain.
• Allen Iverson as a kindred spirit, and his relationships in the Philadelphia community.

Personal & Legacy Reflections

• On his “top NBA players” list—leaves LeBron off because he only selects retirees ("I don't list guys till they retire" — 58:10).
• What his legacy means: “I don't see anybody who looks like me [in today's game]” (59:46).
• Hopes for future generations to remember his business achievements as well as his style and influence.

4. Community Calls and Advice

Listener Calls — "Get It Off Your Chest" (12:22–19:45)

• Variety of callers share life moments: Boston Marathon achievement by a blind runner, prison release for a loved one, food stamp card hacking with the hosts chipping in via CashApp to help a listener.
• Lively, supportive, and at times, hilarious banter about community hardship and resilience.

“Jess Fix My Mess” (88:01–97:32)

• Relationships: Listeners share problems, including serial cheaters and dramatic breakups over minor slights (“he broke up with you because you interrupted his haircut!” — Dr. Jess, 94:26).
• Dr. Jess offers humor-laced tough love, urging women to value themselves and recognize red flags.

5. Donkey of the Day — Ashley Gonzalez Racist Cop Rant (80:07–87:34)

• Charlamagne calls out Houston police officer Ashley Gonzalez for a viral racist rant on social media:
  • Plays audio and sharply critiques her, especially as a Latina woman ("You are also a Gonzalez. You are a Brownie. People out here getting profiled right now—what are you talking about?" — 86:48).
  • “When someone shows you who they are, especially in law enforcement, believe them the first time...She has to be fired” (84:08).

6. Black Effect Podcast Festival & Entrepreneurship

• Preview of upcoming festival: Focus on Black business ownership and networking, with Shopify and numerous Black-owned brands featured (76:03–80:03).
• Emphasis on tangible ownership beyond viral content: “Views don’t equal ownership...what do I own?” — Charlamagne (78:34).

7. Celebrating Black Authors (67:21–70:47)

• Chanel Jones and Emma Greed’s books reach top of the NYT Best Sellers ‘Advice’ list.
• Hosts acknowledge difficulty breaking into such a list and urge support for meaningful Black literature.
• Dr. Jess promotes her upcoming co-parenting memoir.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Charlamagne on Snoop Controversy: "You should be mad at the parents, not Snoop." (73:26)
• Jess on Parent Responsibility: “If we know who we're going to see and what his act consists of, why would you bring your child there?” (72:23)
• Charlamagne on Complex’s List: “There’s not a hundred rappers that are hot right now. This is just for clickbait, for engagement.” (28:40)
• Dr. J on Early Career: “Basketball chose me.” (40:55)
• Dr. J on Legacy: "I don't see myself out there...I don't see anybody who looks like me." (59:46)
• Charlamagne on Law Enforcement Bias: “You cannot wear a badge to protect people you openly admit you hate. That’s not law enforcement. That’s a liability.” (84:08)
• Dr. Jess on Tough Love: “You have to love yourself enough to keep it moving.” (91:12)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Redistricting & Election News: 06:37–11:03
• Complex 100 Rappers List Debate: 26:32–30:36
• Snoop Dogg Child-on-Stage Controversy: 70:47–74:46
• Julius ‘Dr. J’ Erving Interview: 39:14–61:50
• Listener Calls: 12:22–19:45
• Donkey of the Day: 80:07–87:34
• Jess Fix My Mess: 88:01–97:32
• Black Effect Podcast Festival Preview: 76:03–80:03
• Author Celebration: 67:21–70:47

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Tone & Language

Candid, humorous, unfiltered, and communal—with a mix of serious commentary, playful banter, and actionable wisdom. Hosts speak in their authentic voices, moving between jokes and earnest social critique.

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Useful for Listeners Who Missed the Show

This episode is a must-listen for its blend of pop culture critique, sharp takes on racial and ethical controversies, an in-depth, inspiring sports segment with Dr. J, and practical, heartfelt advice. The hosts successfully balance entertainment, education, and activism, making the Breakfast Club a lively “morning meeting place” for the community.

Transcript

[Lauren LaRosa]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Mimi Brown]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[DJ Envy]

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[State Farm Announcer]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[DJ Envy]

Wake that ass up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[DJ Envy]

Just hilarious. Charlamagne Nigal.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Peace to the planet. It's Thursday. How y' all feel out there? I feel blessed. Black and highly favored. Happy to be here another day to serve our beautiful listeners. Good morning.

[DJ Envy]

Good morning, Jess. How you feeling?

[Dr. Jess]

I feel good.

[Lauren LaRosa]

How are you?

[DJ Envy]

A couple days left till your book comes out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Dr. Jess]

Yes. We got five days left. Able to just. I'm honestly very, very excited.

[DJ Envy]

Okay.

[Dr. Jess]

I am. I'm really, really excited. This book is going to amplify everything else I got going on, and then it's gonna. It's just another. Shut up. It's gonna sell. Shut up. It's a great.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's.

[Dr. Jess]

Yeah, it's the truth, but it's going to sell, and it's going to change lives. I think it's going to impact a lot of women, a lot of men as well. It's co parenting. You know what I mean? So I think it's. It's really dope.

[DJ Envy]

Well, I just want to tell the people out there, you know, with this new world of lawsuits, I am going to do a lawsuit today. I'm suing Charlamagne the God Leonard, and I'm gonna tell you why. This morning, as we were walking in the building, Jim Kerr, who is the radio host for Q104.3, which is the

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Whitestation rock legend here in New York

[DJ Envy]

City, he says, I want to tell you guys something funny, right? Me and Charlamagne walked in together kind of close. He was like. As I was taking my Uber in, he said that the guy was like, I listen to the Breakfast Club every morning. And he said, my favorite part of the Breakfast Club is when Charlamagne tells Envy he's Dominican. And Envy tries to tell him, say, he's not Dominican. I'm really black, and people are really believing that I'm Dominican, and that is defaming my character.

[Dr. Jess]

Defamation.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why is that defaming your character? What's wrong with being Dominican?

[DJ Envy]

Because I'm black?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, you're transracial. And you need to stop pretending to be something that you're not. And ever since the days of racial do, all that has been hilarious to see. Transracial. So you're a Dominican who identifies as a black man. You're actually Afro Latino, but you just don't want to claim it. And I don't understand why. But you do at certain points when they book you to do these little Latino parties, you know what I'm saying? You ain't got no business pretending to be Dominican then and be all on the flyers holding the flag. But then when you get on the radio, you want to pretend to be black. That's corny. So I don't have a problem going to court.

[DJ Envy]

It was funny at first, but people

[Charlamagne Tha God]

are believing it now. You got to prove you're not Dominican. Yeah, let's go to court. Anyway, I have no problem.

[DJ Envy]

Today on the show, a legend, an icon.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Come on now.

[DJ Envy]

Julius Dr. J Irvin will be joining us this morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Now we say special guests for every damn body. That's right. Okay, this is really icon living in the form of Julius Dr. J Irvin. 76 years old, by the way.

[DJ Envy]

Yes, he is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Cat daddy still making the ladies voice.

[DJ Envy]

What?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Man salute to Lauren's mom. Dropping the clues. Bombs for Lauren. Not just Lauren's mom. Lauren's mom was up here yesterday.

[Dr. Jess]

Oh, for real?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Lord have mercy. The pins wet, moist.

[Dr. Jess]

Brother, do not wear the pins yet.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, but still, I'm saying they all grown, you know what I mean? I said, why you licking your lips? She said, she said, I seen that good looking man.

[Dr. Jess]

What he married is Dr. J, Mary.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, yes, he is. Yeah. So Dr. J will be joining us. You know, he's originally from Long island, played on the Philadelphia 76s. He was in the ABA for a little bit. He has a new documentary. We'll break that all down. So Dr. J will be in the building.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

According to AI overview, he's been married since 2008. Yes, I know. In the interview he said he had

[DJ Envy]

a couple wives, a couple marriages. Yeah, yeah, but we'll break all that down. All right, well, let's get the show cracking. We got front page news. Mimi will be joining us. Let's start the show. All right. Oh, salute to the baby. It's about to be a number one record. Salute you, brother.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, okay.

[DJ Envy]

It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I would love to see you. Said the baby about to go number one?

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, about to go number one. They got a top five record right now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's fantastic. Yeah, Okay.

[Dr. Jess]

I like Fire. That. That last album that he put out is Fire.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I just like when people count folks out and then they like, boom. Here you back. Yeah, yeah.

[DJ Envy]

He's doing amazing right now. Y. All right, well, let's get into front page news. Start off with some quick sports. In NBA, of course, it's the playoffs. The Pistons beat the Magic 98, 83. Thunder beat the Suns 121 oh7.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't even know why we playing. Just get a Oklahoma City Thunder the championship again this year.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, they busting ass. What's up, Mimi?

[Mimi Brown]

Good morning, Envy. Jeff Charlemagne. How y' all doing this morning?

[DJ Envy]

Peace.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Mimi Brown.

[Mimi Brown]

Good morning. So we start this morning in Virginia where judge has blocked a redistricting plan that voters had just approved. So we've been talking about this for the past couple of days. And that measure would have allowed state lawmakers to redraw the state's congressional map, shifting control away from bipartisan commission. Now, that vote, it passed 51% to 49%. But a judge says that it cannot move forward, calling it unconstitutional and ruling the ballot questions were misleading and it didn't follow proper notice rules. So that decision is now stopping the state from certifying the results and putting those maps into place. The state's attorney general, Jay Jones, he says that he plans to appeal, arguing that voters have already made their decision. Let's listen to him.

[DJ Envy]

At the end of the day, the

[Charlamagne Tha God]

right to vote is sacred. It's what makes us special as of Virginians and as Americans. And I'm really proud of the fact that Virginians stepped up and participated yesterday. Turnout was incredibly high.

[DJ Envy]

It was robust, and our elections were safe and secure.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And the result was that yes prevailed. And we will go and uphold that in the court of law, whether it be at the court of appeals or

[DJ Envy]

at the Supreme Court of Virginia when

[Charlamagne Tha God]

all the votes were counted. Yes, one.

[DJ Envy]

And so we will continue to take that result as far as it'll go because that's my job as attorney general

[Charlamagne Tha God]

and we are ready and willing and able to go. And this is why, you know, yesterday I should not have had a case for optimism. You know goddamn well them people are not going out without a fight. And this is just a glimpse of things to come for the midterms.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah, for sure. Republicans were really upset about this yesterday. And now a Republican backed judge has overturned those election results. And so those new maps, they would have shifted several House seats towards Democrats and a chamber where control of Congress is already razor thin.

[Julius Dr. J Irvin]

And.

[Mimi Brown]

But all of that is, of course, part of this bigger national battle that we're seeing over redistricting, with both parties trying to redraw maps ahead of the midterm election.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So, so the question I have, you know, Republicans are going to attempt to cheat, instill the election, you know, the midterms. So what are you going to do about it? If you know what the offense is going to be, what defense are you going to prepare? Or do you go on offense now? But you just know that they going, they're going to attempt to do this, come to midterms, what are you going to do about it?

[Mimi Brown]

In every state they're going to. They did that here in California, too. So they're gonna, they're gonna keep trying to do it. They don't like the results of these elections as they, as we move forward. And a new development in the Epstein investigation, and it's raising serious concerns. This morning, lawmakers on the House Oversight Committee, they are split over whether Donald Trump should consider pardoning Gazelle Maxwell, Ghislaine Maxwell, in an exchange for her testimony. Now, Maxwell, she is the only one who's been convicted as an accomplice to Jeffrey Epstein. And so far, she has refused to answer any questions, invoking her Fifth Amendment. Right. Now, her legal team says that she would be willing to talk only if she is granted clemency. But that's where the divide is. So some Republicans say getting information is the priority, even if that means cutting her a deal. But Democrats say absolutely not, calling it disrespectful to victims and a step backwards. Now, a pardon would have to come from President Trump, who has not ruled it out.

[Dr. Jess]

Out.

[Mimi Brown]

Let's remind ourselves about what he said when he was asked about this a couple months ago.

[Julius Dr. J Irvin]

Well, I'll take a look at it. I'll speak to. I will speak to the doj. I wouldn't consider it or not consider. I don't know anything about it, so. But I'll speak. I will speak to the doj. I don't know. I'd have to speak to the doj. I'll look at it. I'll. I have a lot of people have asked me for pardons.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I, I don't think she should get a pardon like you were charged with conspiring with Jeffrey Epstein to sexually abuse miners. If she decides to talk and, you know, speak out on about what she knows, it should be because she's trying to get her soul right before she go to hell.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, but this is the thing. What is she gonna say that's not in the files. Right. If they didn't wanna release the files, they redacted the files. They pulled things out. The files. You really think they're gonna put her on the stand and say things that they don't want to be said? No way.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She can't be trusted. And, you know, we also know that she's probably gonna go up there and try to clear, clear people's names, including

[Mimi Brown]

the president, of course, which, you know, may be the reason why, to your point, envy, he may rather have her talk than have all the files come out.

[Caller/Listener]

Right.

[Mimi Brown]

Because he can control what she says versus what's in those documents.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's the only reason he's even considering a part.

[Mimi Brown]

Yes, for sure. And really quickly, a major shake up at the Pentagon. Navy Secretary John Phelan, he was fired. He is out effectively effective immediately. And Phelan, he has no military experience. He had no military experience before taking the job. He was a business businessman and a major donor to President Trump. He was brought in as an outsider to shake up the Navy. But the Pentagon, they are not giving us a clear reason why this morning. He has been fired. We do know that there was growing tensions with Defense Secretary Pete Hessek and other leaders over shipbuilding and strategy, but the move is catching many off guard with some of the reports saying that he may not have even known that he was getting fired before it went public on social media. So all of this happening as the US Ramps up its naval presence in the Middle east, raising concerns about leadership changes and at a tense moment overseas. So some shakeups now in the Middle east with that top Navy individual being fired. So, all right, there you have it. And coming up at 7, the war in Iran, speaking of that, is already pushing up gas, flights, groceries. We've been talking about that, but now it's hitting something more personal. We'll tell you what's getting more exciting, offensive, and, and how it may impact your sex life.

[DJ Envy]

All right, everybody else, get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need the vent, phone lines are wide open. Call us up right now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This is your time to get it off your chest.

[DJ Envy]

Keep calling 800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Hello? Who's this?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This is Neil, the blind runner. Hey, Neil, the blind runner.

[DJ Envy]

What's up, brother?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Son. Man, just wanted to call in and

[Caller/Listener]

tell you that I qualified for the Boston Marathon. I told you about, and I did a personal Record.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What's the record?

[DJ Envy]

What Was the record?

[Caller/Listener]

5 hours, 48 minutes and 41 seconds.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Congratulations.

[Dr. Jess]

Amazing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How does that compare to people who can see? Well, it's hard. It's a difficult course, dealing with hills and everything. A lot of hills in the race. Okay, I want to shout out mega Megan and my boy Ben, who got me in the race. I would love to see how you did against people that can actually see, because I just. I just like stories like that. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, bro. I got you.

[DJ Envy]

Well, congratulations.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

A lot of people. A lot of people left to right was just, like, cramping up in the race. How you know? Oh, you can hear him. My guys was telling me. Oh, gotcha.

[DJ Envy]

How you know? Well, congrats. Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because Megan.

[Caller/Listener]

Megan was telling me that basically they were cramping up and everything, so she

[Charlamagne Tha God]

had to save and give them capsules and everything. Got you. When you find out what exactly where you placed in the race, I'd like to know that, too. Thanks.

[Caller/Listener]

I'll. I'll try to find that out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

My man.

[DJ Envy]

All right, brother. Congratulations again.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right. You know, they have like, a few 15 out of a thousand. You know what I mean?

[DJ Envy]

Well, Boston Marathon's a lot of runners, but the fact that he finished it is. Is amazing. Hello? Who's this?

[Caller/Listener]

Hi, this is Shantasa Hyman. He calling from Madison, New Jersey.

[DJ Envy]

Get it off your chest.

[Caller/Listener]

Mama. Yeah. I just want to say I love my mother, Beatrice Hyman out of Wayne Garage. My father. I just want to let you know you means the world to me and my boyfriend. Jamir. Welcome home. You already know I got your back.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, Lord. How long you was down for?

[Caller/Listener]

Six years.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, okay. That's what's up. What'd he do, though? It don't matter what he did.

[DJ Envy]

I'm just curious.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What is he going to do?

[DJ Envy]

I'm gonna get to that name.

[Caller/Listener]

I'm gonna just say he was in the phase.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, so you're selling drugs.

[Julius Dr. J Irvin]

Drugs.

[Dr. Jess]

Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right. He be all right.

[Caller/Listener]

Y' all so extra. Hey, Jazz.

[Dr. Jess]

Hey, girl.

[Caller/Listener]

What's going on?

[Dr. Jess]

Not much. Just getting ready for my book to drop. Girl, you got some kids.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah, you already know. I gotta get that.

[Dr. Jess]

Yes, yes. You need to. Need to co parent effectively.

[Caller/Listener]

I appreciate y'. All. I just want y' all to know that I listen to y' all every morning. And I'm so happy that y' all did finally accept my call and rest in peace, Mara out of Patterson, New Jersey.

[DJ Envy]

All right, Mama.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Peace. Thank you for calling.

[Dr. Jess]

Have a good day.

[DJ Envy]

Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, Ray.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Ray Ray. Yo, Charlamagne.

[DJ Envy]

What up?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Are we live?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This is your time to get it off your chest. I got an indoor pool, an outdoor pool. We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club.

[DJ Envy]

We can get on the phone right now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He'll tell you what it is.

[Caller/Listener]

We live.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hello?

[DJ Envy]

Who's this?

[Caller/Listener]

This Santana from Texas.

[DJ Envy]

Chantelle from Texas. What part of Texas, Mama?

[Caller/Listener]

Beaumont.

[DJ Envy]

All right. Get it off your chest.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Near Houston.

[Caller/Listener]

It's. Yeah, like an hour away.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, okay. Okay. So you listening to us on 937 to beat.

[Caller/Listener]

I'm really listening to y' all on

[Charlamagne Tha God]

our heart radio app. Okay, all good.

[DJ Envy]

Talk to us. Get it off your chest.

[Caller/Listener]

I just want to put it out there. I got supposed to get my food stamps on the 18th. Check my. My card. That morning stamps on there, they weren't. Next thing you know, three o', clock, I'm trying to go make my grocery run. Why did I get two transactions from two companies, and way in California, they hacked my card.

[DJ Envy]

Wow.

[Caller/Listener]

Yes, wow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

There's a special place in hell for people who hack an EBT card.

[Dr. Jess]

You could do that. What the hell?

[Caller/Listener]

Then they tell you to call the fraud hotline with the Attorney General for Texas. They tell me, oh, there's nothing we can do. We just advise you to change your card and your PIN number. I said, so my kids have to be hungry for a whole nother freaking month because somebody in another state took my stuff. And she said yes. I just hung up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How much they get you for, man?

[Caller/Listener]

400. Two transactions for $200.

[DJ Envy]

What's your cash app? Put your cash app.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, my God. I'm gonna put a little something in you. Yeah, I'm putting a little something into it. God damn, that sounds so skeptical.

[Dr. Jess]

I don't even sound like somebody took it. That sound like they took them back?

[DJ Envy]

No, they scammed that. They scammed her card.

[Caller/Listener]

No, that's crazy, too. I said the same thing. I looked up the. The companies, they said where they was laying in California.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What's your cash at, man? S what now? M huh A huh B huh T?

[DJ Envy]

P. T as in Tom.

[Caller/Listener]

Yes, Santana, that's me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You joined November 2022.

[DJ Envy]

Smabt. I don't see that. Where you see that?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What you mean? I'm looking, right? Santana, don't send me nothing. I don't know nothing. About no apple pay sma.

[DJ Envy]

What?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know how to pay with no fruit. What'd you say?

[DJ Envy]

You said S M a B T, right?

[Caller/Listener]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, I'm looking right at it. Santana Broussard. You look like my cousin a little bit.

[Caller/Listener]

It probably is. Look, what's up?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No salute to my cousin Kayla. Okay, I'm gonna send you a couple dollars right now.

[State Farm Announcer]

I ain't.

[DJ Envy]

I still don't. That's M A B T. I do not say.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm gonna put four crab legs.

[Caller/Listener]

Hey, my kids love crab legs.

[Dr. Jess]

That's amazing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Somebody gonna get it. Look. That's what I'm talking about. Let me see if it came through. Let me see. It's going through. See, it said. It said it got sent. You see it?

[DJ Envy]

I don't see the name.

[Caller/Listener]

I got it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You got it? I'm.

[DJ Envy]

I'mma send to.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, my gosh.

[Caller/Listener]

I appreciate it. Thank you.

[DJ Envy]

I'm trying to send you some money.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'mma send Envy your cash app, right? Please.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, please.

[Dr. Jess]

And I'm sorry that happened to you, babe.

[Caller/Listener]

Listen to y' all every morning. And I love y' all so much.

[Dr. Jess]

Love you, too.

[DJ Envy]

You said that to me, Charlotte.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Man, I don't even know how to share it. Well, how the hell do I share? How do I share this thing? How do I share this to you?

[DJ Envy]

I don't know.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You copy him. You copied a profile. Hey, good morning. I'm sorry to hear about what happened.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So give us some money then.

[Caller/Listener]

That's okay.

[Dr. Jess]

Government took them back. That's what happened. Two approximate charges for 200, and you got 400. Yeah. All right. They took them back.

[DJ Envy]

This and again. And give it to one more time, because maybe people out there can help you a little bit as well.

[Caller/Listener]

Okay. It's S M A B as in boy, T as in Tom. A N, A.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right.

[DJ Envy]

A N, A.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. It's like, right there.

[DJ Envy]

I got it now.

[Julius Dr. J Irvin]

We good.

[DJ Envy]

I got it right now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I got you. I'm about to say it's like Santana with an M and a B. But that doesn't even make no goddamn.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah. Because my name is Santana.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I see it. Santana Versace.

[Julius Dr. J Irvin]

Okay.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

All right, mama.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Thank you, Santana.

[DJ Envy]

Thank you so much.

[Caller/Listener]

I appreciate y'. All. Thank y'.

[Lauren LaRosa]

All.

[Caller/Listener]

Breakfast Club.

[DJ Envy]

All right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Go buy them kids some food.

[DJ Envy]

Absolutely.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yo, you going to hell for hacking people ebt, man. They already. You can. You know, people that got EBT is barely making ends meet now. Go hack somebody with some goddamn real money.

[DJ Envy]

Yes. Since you just paid Santana Brasol. Yeah, I got my. I just sent mine. All right, get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, you can hit us up at any time. We got the latest coming up.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Good morning, Envy. Almost wore that today. That Milano? Yes, I have that same hoodie.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why you call that man a mulatto? Now, see, first of all, I don't even know if Dominicans and blacks are mulatto. I think white and blacks are mulatto. Why you call that man?

[Lauren LaRosa]

He has a Milano D Rouge and we have the same hoodie. And I almost wore that today. I'm trying to be comfortable today. Okay, But. Good morning, y'. All.

[Dr. Jess]

Good morning.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Did you ask me already? Yeah. Oh, I didn't hear. Yes, we do have the latest coming up. So Complex just released. There are hundred the top hundred best rappers right now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This list, I wish we wasn't even giving that no attention. Not because I just.

[Lauren LaRosa]

No, I know there's gonna be some argument at least with the uncs in the room, at least about the top 10.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I ain't even debating it. That's complex business. Let them do their thing. I ain't even debating it. I know why they do that, though. They do that for this. For rage bait people.

[Lauren LaRosa]

We gonna talk about it. We'll get into it.

[DJ Envy]

We'll get to that. Next, it's the breakfast cloak and peace

[Charlamagne Tha God]

to the planet Charlamagne Tha God here. Now, y' all know I'm big on ownership. Owning your ideas, owning your business, owning your future. And that's exactly why I use sh. Shopify is the platform that lets you take an idea and actually build a real business out of it. All right? It gives anyone the tools, the storefront, and the control. So you're not building on somebody else's platform or somebody else's algorithm. Okay? It's your own store, your community, your own customers. That relationship is yours to own. All right? What I love is how discoverable it makes everything. Shopify puts products everywhere. People actually shop. Google, YouTube, TikTok, shop the shop app. Even inside ChatGPT, you can literally go from conversation to checkout. That's next level options in our changing world. And right now, the Black Effect storefront is busy and Shopify is handling the heavy lifting. I am so excited that Shopify is going to show up at our Black Effect podcast festival this year in a big way. And of course, I'll be there preaching this platform and introducing this platform to all our small black owned businesses. That partner with us. Shopify is helping drive the marketplace this year. At our festival you can and their footprint and commitment to us and the community of black owned businesses is something I am proud to be a part of. Build your store, own your audience and create something that lasts. Start [e-mail] Breakfast Club this past weekend, like every other Sunday, you were on the court with the guys playing ball. Just a pickup game, living out your hoop dreams. No triple doubles, but a mean set of threes in between buckets. One of the homies mentions he closed on a new crib.

[Julius Dr. J Irvin]

This is big.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And while everyone's asking about the housewarming and making plans to celebrate, you're asking the real questions like has he spoke

[State Farm Announcer]

to his State Farm agent yet about coverage? See, home ownership is one thing, but

[Charlamagne Tha God]

the right coverage is the real game changer. Even more than your last hot streak is how you protect your legacy.

[State Farm Announcer]

Dropping buckets and bars on the court.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

A State Farm agent can more than assist you with finding the right coverage for your new place. If you have a claim, your local

[Julius Dr. J Irvin]

agent can help you file it.

[State Farm Announcer]

Yep, that's right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Over the phone, in person, online or on the app, they're ready to help you and they don't drop the ball,

[Julius Dr. J Irvin]

if you know what I mean.

[State Farm Announcer]

Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there.

[DJ Envy]

We know parents want to feel confident as their teens navigate social media with Instagram teen accounts and teens get automatic protections. By default. Teens between the ages of 13 to 17 are automatically put into a protective experience. That means they get built in content settings for what they see, contact limits on who can contact them, and time management tools like daily time limit reminders, as well as Sleep mode, which mutes notifications from 10pm to 7am plus, teens under 16 need a parent's permission to change any of these settings to be less strict. Instagram continues to work on building new safety features to help create age appropriate experiences for teens. Learn more about teen accounts and Instagram's ongoing work to help protect teens [e-mail] teenaccounts yo, what up y'? All? It's DJ Envy from the Breakfast Club. Now check this out. The first phone call that ever happened happened over 150 years ago. 150 years. That's before any of this. Before radio, before social media, before all the ways we stay connected. Today. That one call really started everything. And fast forward to now. It's springtime, the weather's breaking, people outside vibes are right again. Thank God. And it got me thinking. Who haven't you talked to in a minute. And, you know, through all these years and all these conversations, AT&T has been there connecting people in meaningful ways. This is more than a story of technological innovation. It's really a story about human connection, real people, real moments and real relationships. So we celebrate over 150 years of connection. Let this be your reminder. Don't wait. Make that call. Send that text. Pull up on somebody you care about. Because at the end of the day, those connections, that's what really matters.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Connecting changes everything. AT&T, you'll talk.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

LL Cool bitch.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, I'm not dumbing myself down. I'm being myself.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Source is cut.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything.

[Dr. Jess]

And everybody, the little brown girls, look at you go.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I want to be like you.

[Dr. Jess]

Take me through that.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Take me through there.

[Julius Dr. J Irvin]

The latest with Lauren on the Breakfast Club.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

LL Cool B, talk to me.

[Lauren LaRosa]

All right, y'.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So a quick congratulations to Michael B. Jordan. Him. It was announced yesterday that him and Austin Butler are officially going to be starring in the new Miami vice film Miami Vice 85. So this is a big deal. It was already, you know, reported and conversations have been happening about the fact that that the movie was going to happen and that Michael B. Jordan and Austin Butler were in talks to star in this film. But there was conversations about budget, not budget, but about a salary for Michael B. Jordan. There was. It was reported that he was asking for $18 million at now following his Oscar win and they only wanted to give him 5 million. There was no green light. But now, according to deadline, it has officially been green lit. They will be starring in it. So I'm assuming he got whatever he wanted. And production was originally not supposed to begin until fall of 2026, but it will be beginning sooner than that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So they want to get the movie out fast. They started these talks, I think last year, so they didn't have the budget secured. So of course, if the budget is insecure and I win an Oscar, the price goes up.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This is common sense, guys.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You have to know that 100%. So congratulations to Michael B. Jordan and Austin Butler. Now shifting gears a bit. So complex released list, they released their top 100 rappers out right now. And I like I said earlier, I'm sure this is going to spark some conversation. So I printed out the list for you guys. Now I do want to make it clear that this list is right now. Their plan is to do this every month and see that things change. They also note that they this list Was recorded as of March 24, 2026. It focuses on cultural impact, output, and anticipation, not just pure lyrical skill or the quality of the music of these artists. So top 10 on the list, we have J. Cole, we have Drake, we have Kendrick Lamar, NBA, YoungBoy, Yeet, Don Toliver, Travis Scott, Jay Z, Kanye west, and Baby Keem.

[DJ Envy]

And what is this based off of?

[Lauren LaRosa]

So it's based.

[DJ Envy]

They're going to do it every month, right?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes.

[DJ Envy]

And this month, Dababy has a huge month. Cardi B had a huge month selling out all those shows. J. Cole released a pack, a project, so he had a huge month. So what is it based on?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Based off trying to get clicks, trying to get engagement, trying to get people to talk about it. That's what. That's what this.

[DJ Envy]

T.I. had an amazing month with his records.

[Lauren LaRosa]

C.I. is on this list. He's at 21.

[DJ Envy]

I mean, all those people on the list that I named, positioning.

[Dr. Jess]

I haven't heard any women.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Cardi B is number 11 on the list. There are women on this. That is not the. Yeah, so Cardi B is number 11 on the list. Doja Cat. I'm sorry, Doi is on this list. She is number 20. There are women on the list. But the. When I listened because there was an actual, like, interview they did with the game where they, like, let him re rank his top 10. And in the interview, Jordan Rose, who's the journalist that is talking to him, he leans in heavily on the fact that this is about the music that they've dropped, the success right now and the anticipation. So to that point, I do think TI should have been a bit higher on this list because the time period matters. So this was when, remember we did the Jay Z interview conversation. That interview had just dropped. You know, J. Cole was still riding around in the car. So this is the time period that this list was released.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't care about this list. I think this, like I said, it's just for clickbait. It's just for engagement. There is not, first of all, there's not a hundred rappers that are hot right now. If you're just talking about hotness. If all you're talking about is hotness, heat. There's not a hundred rappers that are hot right now.

[DJ Envy]

What's the definition of hot? Like, you know, I mean, does it mean they have to have a project

[Charlamagne Tha God]

out because Jay was on this opportunity to be on this list?

[DJ Envy]

You see what I'm saying?

[Lauren LaRosa]

It says it for J. Cole.

[DJ Envy]

He's on the list, is number eight. But he hasn't had music out in years.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It makes no sense.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, it's totally confused.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This is just to get people talking. Who wrote who? Who did the list? What's the guy's name?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Well, Jordan Rose did the interview. But it's a group of people at Complex that get together to do this, like to actually.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You don't have none of the Youngins on here. You don't have no Marco plus on here. He just have a crazy freestyle or J.D.

[Lauren LaRosa]

they got him on here. He is number 36. They have. I mean, Yeet would be considered as he's a younger artist. To me, his music is more like youth culture. I know you guys wouldn't know who he would. I don't listen to Yeet, but I

[Dr. Jess]

know who he is.

[DJ Envy]

I think we give this telling me

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wally Wale on the list at all. Like, once again, there's not a hundred. There's not a hundred rappers that are hot in one at one moment like this. It's just. This is just something to get people talking. And I don't know why we even fell for it.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Well, I mean, it's. It's a music conversation.

[DJ Envy]

Not really, no.

[Dr. Jess]

Damn. I don't even know some of these people. Like, you know what I mean? And they just got regular names. Shay, Dave. Who is that?

[DJ Envy]

They don't make no sense.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It doesn't. It makes. It makes zero sense. Destroy my guy. B Dot. At least when B Dot does his hottest list, you know what I mean? It makes sense of who is actually hot for the moment. It's only like 10 people. That makes more sense. There's not a hundred people hot at one time.

[Dr. Jess]

Yo, Russell is 100.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Y' all ain't about to make my quarters all.

[Lauren LaRosa]

They also have no shade is sexy. They got pusha T number 34, sexy red number 27.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm growing.

[Dr. Jess]

Yeah, please.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And I think that was Game's argument as well too. So, yes, in the next hour we'll come back. Speaking of rappers, in the next latest, we're gonna get into Snoop Dogg and some of the backlash that he's getting right now about the show.

[DJ Envy]

All right, that's the latest. Now when we come back, we got front page news and Julius Irvin, Dr. J, legend, the icon will be joining us. We'll talk to him in a little bit. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Morning, everybody.

[Dr. Jess]

It's DJ Envy.

[DJ Envy]

Just hilarious. Charlemagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get back in some front page news, some quick sports. The Pistons beat the Magic last night in NBA games, 98, 83. And the Thunder beat the Suns, 120 to 107. What's up, Mimi?

[Mimi Brown]

Good morning. How y' all doing this morning?

[DJ Envy]

Good. Mimi Brown, Good morning.

[Mimi Brown]

So we start this hour with Dave Chappelle sounding off on politics. So, of course, he's never shied away from the tough questions, and he's continuing to do that in a new interview with PBS NewsHour. In that interview, he raises concerns about the overall tone of the country, the political division to the war in Iran, and whether the president is bringing people together. And when asked directly how Donald Trump is doing as president, Chappelle didn't hold back. Let's listen.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You joking, right? He's, man, come on, man. Nobody wants to feel this way. I don't think anybody wanted a war. They definitely didn't want to arguably lose one.

[Lauren LaRosa]

But when you're asking him to please do better, what was it in that moment that you were asking the president

[Charlamagne Tha God]

to do and to do differently? Well, I believe in that same monologue, I reminded him that everyone on earth

[Julius Dr. J Irvin]

is counting on him.

[Dr. Jess]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think I made the point that

[Julius Dr. J Irvin]

the presidency is no place for a petty person and not cultivate a broth of confusion, which I believe is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I believe he's doing that, you know, but I don't understand his methodology.

[Julius Dr. J Irvin]

But I just know that Americans, I think everyone wants to have some semblance of peace.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And they get there different ways, some people think. But being a president seems like an opportunity to be a very unifying force. And I feel like perhaps he squandered that opportunity. I mean, Dave didn't say one word wrong. Like, you know, are they talking about his monologue from 2016 on SNL? Is that what they're talking about?

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, like, why wouldn't we want the president to do good? Why wouldn't we want the president to do better? Nobody wants the situation that we're currently in. If you're an American, I don't care what political party you are, what race you are, you don't want the president to be doing what he's currently doing. So I don't have a problem with, you know, I didn't have a problem with Dave saying that back in 2016. We was all hoping for the best.

[Mimi Brown]

We were all hoping for the best. And that was the, that was the point that he was making. And just being unifying and bringing everyone together is something that we are not seeing right now. And so he continues to talk about, about that. And he just says that people are looking for direction right in the entire world and they are just not getting it out of this president. A very good interview with PBS NewsHour. And a change to age limits is coming to who can join the Army? So do you, do you guys know how old you have to be or the age limit, should I say, in order to join the army right now?

[DJ Envy]

It was 18.

[Mimi Brown]

Okay, the age limit. So that. Yes, so you have to be 18 to join it. But do you know?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, it's 25, right?

[Mimi Brown]

It was, it was 35. It was 35. Yes, it was 35. But starting this week, the army is raising its enlistment age from 35 to 42. So.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, they tripping. They want to lose wars. They ain't even trying to win America. We ain't even trying to win no wars no more if that's the case.

[DJ Envy]

40 year old needs naps.

[Dr. Jess]

Mimi, why is that? Why is, why is it?

[Mimi Brown]

Well, because it's an effort to bring in more recruits after struggling in recent years to meet the numbers. So, you know, they've been having a hard time recruiting people. And not only that, here's another change that they're doing. So people with a single marijuana possession charge can now join without needing a waiver. You used to have to have a waiver or, you know, talk about why you had that marijuana charge. Now they're just taking you at 42 and they're taking your we charge as well if you want to join the Army. So this is separate from the automatic draft registration, which is set to begin in December. And that system doesn't send anyone to the war. It just will automatically sign you up the moment you turn 18. That's what you guys were talking about. So that's the draft list in case it's ever needed. Now, that list would have to go to Congress. Congress would have to approve it. If there were a war, you can't be automatically signed up unless Congress says we are going to war. So just those two differences there. But that change, this change is only expanding. Who can volunteer to join?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That is a waste of time. Okay? What they need to do, they need to go get all those young boys in those shiesty masks with all those military style weapons, all them choppers in any hood, usa. Go get those white boys who want to be part of these, these militias, okay? Go get people doing life in prison for violent crimes and sit on the wall.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah, well, or if you're in your early 40s.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, Mimi, no, no.

[Mimi Brown]

No, you wanted to do now your opportunity.

[DJ Envy]

Once you get about 35, you start going to bed early, you need naps. It's just. It's just too much. It is a waste of time. You ain't gonna be running this fast.

[Dr. Jess]

Nah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Fighting a war.

[Mimi Brown]

Yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[Mimi Brown]

Well, there you have it. There's that. And lastly, speaking of war in Iran. It is already. We've talked about this. Driving up gas prices, flights, even groceries. And now you can add condoms to that list. So the company behind Trojan and Durex said it is getting more expensive to make them, especially with the cost of rubber going up. And that's going to push prices up about 20 to 30%. And it's not just the price. Shipping delays tied to disruptions during in the straight of her moose. That could also mean fewer options on the shelves. And so on top of all of that, demand is already up. It's already really high. It's hard to find right now. And so safe sex might cost a little more these days just like everything else, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So get married so you can go raw. You know what I mean? All you have to bring back old school methods like the ear wax test. You know what the ear wax test is? You put your pinky in your ear.

[DJ Envy]

Oh my goodness.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right? Put your pinky in your ear, get a little wax on your finger. And then, you know, you put your finger down there. And if the young lady jumps, she got something.

[Dr. Jess]

I think that is not true. If the young lady jumps and makes you don't want earwax in her vagina.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How about that?

[DJ Envy]

It's not true. Because somebody listening will try that and be like, oh, I'm good. And then, no, it's not true, guys.

[Dr. Jess]

Somebody right mind. Who in a right mind would do that? Like, don't ever dig in your dirty ass air getting no wax out and try to see if I got some. Because now I got something.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You think back in the day. I'm talking about way, way back in the day, in the caveman days. You think they had actual tests to test for STDs? There were natural ways to test for STDs. And that was one of the. So you and the young lady can have a conversation and you can say, hey, I can't afford condoms right now, so let's do the earwax test. You put a little earwax on your pinky. You put it down there. Cause y' all already having sex, so that's consent. You put it down there. If she jumps, she got something. Y' all don't do nothing.

[Dr. Jess]

Have you done that?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I haven't, but I've seen, I read.

[DJ Envy]

Thank you, Mimi.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

One quick Google search to help you out, Jess.

[Dr. Jess]

I'm not Googling that. Okay, I'm not Googling that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, the ear wax test, by the way. We're gonna have to do something. I don't see y' all presenting no solutions

[Dr. Jess]

anyway. Like, so it don't. This, this ain't gonna affect no. Damn.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's not a good.

[Dr. Jess]

To be honest with you. I mean, I. I'm just saying, telling

[Charlamagne Tha God]

people just to go raw dog.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, the pull out solution ain't good either. You can still catch it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Go raw dog.

[Dr. Jess]

No, I'm not telling people that. That's what people are already doing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That don't mean it's right. I'm giving them better methods.

[Julius Dr. J Irvin]

Oh, my gosh.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You can all. Okay, what about using dual things like going to get a Saran Wrap that are a sandwich bag or a garbage bag of a garbage bag.

[DJ Envy]

All right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

There's other things that you can do.

[DJ Envy]

Thank you, Mimi.

[Dr. Jess]

If people have a medical issue, I cannot.

[Mimi Brown]

This went down the another, another lane. All right, y'.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All.

[Mimi Brown]

Well, that is your front page news. I'm Mimi Brown. Follow me @mimi Brown TV. And for more stories, follow the Black Information Network.

[Dr. Jess]

Thank you, Mimi.

[DJ Envy]

Thank you, Mimi. Now, when we come back, Dr. J. Julius Irving will be joining us, of course, from the Philadelphia 76ers. He has a new documentary out and we're going to talk to him next. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Lauren laros is here with us as well. We got a special guest in the building, a legend.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, we say special guests a lot, but boy, sometimes a legend or icon walks in the door and in your mind you're like, I never thought I'd be sitting down having a conversation with this person, but boy, I'm glad it's happening.

[DJ Envy]

That's right. Ladies and gentlemen, Dr. J. Julius. Dr. J. Irvin.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Welcome, brother.

[Julius Dr. J Irvin]

Good morning, gentlemen.

[DJ Envy]

How you feeling?

[Mimi Brown]

Hi.

[Caller/Listener]

How you feeling?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How are you?

[DJ Envy]

How you feeling, brother?

[Julius Dr. J Irvin]

I feel great. I feel great, you know, so it's good to be back in New York. So in the last three days, I've been spending time in Philadelphia and New York, you know, two of my favorite places, obviously New York, where I was born and raised, and Philadelphia, where I made my name.

[DJ Envy]

Now, it's so crazy hearing you say that because for. For so many years, people would assume Dr. J is from Philly, just because of the amount of work you put in in Philly, but you're originally from New York.

[Julius Dr. J Irvin]

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. First 26 years of my life, you know, I was. I was a New Yorker, so that's always going to be my home base. Philadelphia is more of an adopted home, and I played my whole NBA career there. Played 11 seasons after five in the ABA. And, you know, that's where things really began to cook internationally.

[DJ Envy]

I want to. I want to. I want to go back. I know we had to talk about this documentary, Soul Power.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Soul Power, the Legend of the American Basketball Association.

[DJ Envy]

But I want to start off with younger Dr. J. Right, yeah. What made you want to play basketball and to take it professional? Cause watching, you know, Soul Power, the Legend, where you talk about the aba, it didn't seem like it was fun watching the NBA. At first it was a bunch of white boys playing basketball. It looked like it was all over the place. They could barely dribble, barely shoot.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And then they came to aba.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, but so what made you want to get into basketball, even take it as a professional career?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

His legs?

[Julius Dr. J Irvin]

Yeah, no, it was, you know, my batting average in baseball was about 160. And then I. I tried a few other sports, but, you know, football, that was too much time when laying on the ground, you know, especially, I mean, flag football was one thing, tackle was another, you know, and they always wanted to make me an end. Run out, catch, pass, get tackled. I was like, nah, I don't like this. So, you know, hoops was different. You know, moving, grooving, taking people to the hole and blocking shots, you know, running the fast break and whatever. I mean, it was just like free flying. So I think basketball chose me.

[DJ Envy]

When did you realize you were good at basketball? Because everybody growing up in the park swear they're the best thing in the park. When did you realize that's true. Really good.

[Julius Dr. J Irvin]

That's true. I think, you know, watching tv, seeing Elgin Baylor, then eventually, you know, a lot of people start calling me Little Hawk.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Little Hawk, Little Hawk.

[Julius Dr. J Irvin]

What the heck they calling me that for? Then I saw Connie Hawkins play, and he used to do a lot of one hand stuff and tricky stuff, and he saw him play with the Globetrotters, whatever, you know, put a smile to my face. I said, between those two guys, if I can get a game, anything resembling what those two guys could do, then I'll be all right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But for me, it was like, when I looked at you, it was like the swagger, right? Like, you made the Afro the dunk. Like the whole vibe of, like, what was going on in the streets at the time, mainstream. Did you know you were shifting culture or you just being yourself?

[Julius Dr. J Irvin]

I think I was being myself, you know, as much as I was allowed to be myself. You know, I come from Long island, so Long Island's a little different than the urban experience. But I spent a lot of time in the city when I. When I. When I was young, when decided to go to school up in New England. So I went to UMass, and when I came back from UMass, you know, I had grown three inches, had gained 30 pounds. So I went from six three to six six and, you know, 160 to 190 and, you know, so I was. I was actually developing physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually, you know, all at the same time. And in the Rucker League, that was my coming out party.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What happened to the Rucker League?

[Julius Dr. J Irvin]

They started trying to give me nicknames other than the one I had. They started calling me the Claw and Houdini and, you know, Black Jesus. You know, all these nasties. If y' all call me anything, just call me the Doctor, because I got the Doctor. I had the Doctor since, like, middle school. And in those five years, I played five seasons. And it was really funny because there are a lot of people who said, that's a different guy than I saw in high school or in college, you know, and I didn't think I was different. But the observers from the outside, you know, they. They knew that my confidence had risen, and I guess the creativity associated with my game, you know, was. Was showing as opposed to just kind of being there. Latent. And even in college, I mean, I remember. I remember my point guard threw me a lob pass and I caught it and I kind of finger rolled it in. The coach got upset. He said, no, that's not how we gonna play. And, you know, that's how we play. You know, that's how we play street ball, and that's how people play now. So it was probably a little ahead of its time.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You said something. You said you were being yourself as much as you were allowed to be. What did that mean?

[Julius Dr. J Irvin]

Yeah, yeah, just what I said, you know, about the coach, he. He shut it down. He's like, no, no, no, he wanted

[Charlamagne Tha God]

you to do the regular.

[DJ Envy]

We're not.

[Julius Dr. J Irvin]

We're not gonna stand out there, throw the ball over the defense and have somebody catch it and. And put it in. We're gonna work it around, you know, five or six passes and then create an open shot or get a layup. And so. So that. That's where they allowed to be. And then, you know, I had a curfew.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I thought you saw somebody regarding, like your style and your.

[Julius Dr. J Irvin]

Yeah. And the coaching is. Is really significant because I've had multiple coaches over the years, and one of the things I. I tried to do was celebrate all of them. So, you know, once I made it to the pros, you know, had a nice little party at this hotel in. In Hempstead, Long island, where, you know, I lived for the first through ninth grade anyway, through eighth grade. And I got all the coaches who I had, you know, my Don Ryan, who was my Salvation army coach, and Ray Wilson, who was my Roosevelt Senior high school coach, Earl Mosley, Chuck McElwain, and got them all together just to say, hey, thanks. You know, there's something happening that's really good for me, and it wouldn't be happening if it wasn't for you guys.

[DJ Envy]

And when the ABA started, the NBA was there as well. Was there a choice of where you wanted to go or at the time, ABA was the only place you could go?

[Julius Dr. J Irvin]

ABA was the only option. Why was that the only option? If I. If I stayed in school another year, because I left after my junior year, so if I stayed in school another year, then I would be eligible for the draft into the NBA. So they had a draft system and, you know, their situation was tighter than abas. But I signed early because as an underclassman, the NBA wasn't taking underclassmen. They didn't have any avenue for underclassmen to go into the pros, now come out of high school. So, you know, evolution is what it is. So I signed with the aba. I eventually got drafted after the first season by the NBA, and my agent had worked out a deal with the Atlanta Hawks that after my contract expires with the ABA team that I'm playing for, that I'd become an Atlanta Hawk because Atlanta is really where I wanted to live. And Atlanta got in a scuffle with their commissioner because Milwaukee had my draft rights. If I had really been on it, as opposed to, you know, kind of listening to what the agents and business managers had to say, Milwaukee might have been a great place to go. That's what Kareem Abdul's ball was. Oscar Robinson went there or whatever. So, I mean, you know, players who I admired and, you know, I think we could have accumulated some championships, but that didn't happen. So. So I spent two years in Virginia, then Three years as a net playing basically in my hometown, you know, New York. Yeah, New York Nets back then. And they were based in Long island playing the Nassau Coliseum.

[DJ Envy]

That was fun.

[Julius Dr. J Irvin]

I'm sure you know, those three years I was a two time champion and three time most valuable player in the league. So that was the coming out party.

[DJ Envy]

What was your check back then? Do you remember how much you made back then when you first got drafted?

[Julius Dr. J Irvin]

125,000.

[DJ Envy]

Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

A lot of money.

[DJ Envy]

Hey, that's a lot of money back there.

[Julius Dr. J Irvin]

Yeah, my contract. Well, that's why I left school because, you know, because mom was doing, you know, she had a hair salon. And then my stepfather was the garbage man in the community. So you know, he was with. So between the two of them, they were probably making between 10 and 15,000 or whatever when I got offered 125. Called my mom know something's going on. She said, what? I know you ain't leaving school. I was like, well, I am leaving school, but I'm gonna finish, you know, because she was, she was into the academics because in her early days she had taught school. So I promised her I would finish college. But you know, I'm full time student, part time basketball player. Yeah, we're gonna flip that, right? We're gonna be a full time basketball player and part time student.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think you made the right choice. Yeah. If the ABA never existed, does the modern NBA even look the way it does today?

[Julius Dr. J Irvin]

No, I don't think so. Well, it would have evolved because, you know, when you, when you look at the NBA now, I mean, there's a lot of what was going on in international circles before it was going on here. And then you look at, you know, I mean, half of the top 10 players, five of them are from someplace around the world other than the United States of America. So the game was gonna evolve. And you know, I have a role now as a vice chairman of the board of governors for the Naismith Memorial Basketball hall of Fame. So I take it very seriously. And the game was invented by a Canadian, doctor, James Naismith, and he happened to reside in Springfield, Massachusetts. So in my history, you know, Springfield is a part of it because UMass is right down the road from Springfield, even though it's enamorous mass. And, and so honoring that is, is very important. But that's where the brown ball started. That's where the peach basket stories about that started. And so, you know, it's going to come back there in some, in some regard because I think the footprint of the hall of Fame is going to get really huge, and hopefully I'll have a say so in that as a vice chairman, maybe eventually become the chairman. And. And, you know, it's the game. The game needs. The story needs to be told from its beginning to. To present day. And certain things, I mean, obviously certain things don't last forever. You throw those out. But, you know, the new things that come, I mean, the shaking and the bacon, the moves, the play of the playground game, the international influence, you know, all those things need to be talked about in the right perspective. So there's a story there. There's a book to be written.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. I mean, the aba, you know, when you look at the doc, it felt more black. It felt more expressive.

[Julius Dr. J Irvin]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I mean? Like, was that intentional or that was just.

[Julius Dr. J Irvin]

I think in terms of. Of, let's say the ABA was the true integral integration of the workplace, you know? Yeah. So. So that's where. That's where it happened in abundance. And, you know, come on, man. If it was 1960s, when it was still a segregated society, so middle 60s, 66, 67, we had integration in school system before that, blacks was going over here, whites were going over there, Latinos were going over there or whatever. So, you know, the coming together happened in the. In the 60s. And, you know, that's when the ABA started.

[Lauren LaRosa]

At that point, when. When everything is integrated and y' all are, you know, playing together, what were some of the things that you still like as a. A black man in the aba? Like, what were some of the things that y' all still were feeling even though integration was, like, happening is right there?

[Julius Dr. J Irvin]

So one thing for me, my. My introduction to integration was well before 66, you know, and before it happened nationally, nationwide. So when I. When I chose my college, I mean, you know, I went to the University of Massachusetts. I was the only black guy on the team. You know, I wasn't even recruited by HBCU colleges, you know, And, I mean, I don't necessarily know why, but as it turned out, I was either going to St. John's or I was going to UMass. And St. John's probably had a couple more brothers there that I would have been playing with, but UMass didn't have many. It was just me. So there's the story. You know, everybody got their own story. Right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

When people say things like Dr. J changed the game, what does that actually mean to you? Personally?

[Julius Dr. J Irvin]

I. I take it as a compliment. I. I think the reference is into maybe elevating the Attention given to the game, make people want to watch, you know, the whole fan experience. And. And then I think from a contract standpoint, you know, when I went from the Nets to the Sixers, you know, it's reported as being one of the biggest contracts ever. $6 million contract. I got three, the Nets got three. And then I got, you know, five years of hard labor playing basketball.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't understand. I never understood that. Why did the Nets get 3 million?

[Julius Dr. J Irvin]

Because they lost their best player. And they. They actually. The Sixers bought my contract.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Got you.

[Julius Dr. J Irvin]

So it wasn't a trade, and it wasn't a draft or whatever it was. It was an acquisition.

[DJ Envy]

So.

[Julius Dr. J Irvin]

So I got sold just like they did back in the days of slavery.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wow.

[Julius Dr. J Irvin]

You know, but, you know, ain't get beat up. The contract was sold.

[DJ Envy]

I think you were one of the first players I was. I think that. I think so many companies took advantage of, and I don't. And I'm asking because when I was a kid, you would see the Dr. J kicks everything, jerseys, everywhere, through the roof. I think as a kid, you were the most sold jersey because Everybody had a Dr. J. Did you ever get paid off of that? Did the NBA take care of their players when they sold all those jerseys back then, or that contract? Was the contract?

[Julius Dr. J Irvin]

Both. You know, I think the. The endorsements and the endorsement scenario, your agent, your business manager did that. You know, now I got my nephew doing it or whatever. So it still exists today where we. We get opportunities to market our brand. And we have the Dr. J brand, and we have Irving Global Opportunity, LLC, whatever. So. So we still do deals. I. I consistently say that the beginning of all that started with, you know, the PSAs. I used to do PSAs, work for public service announcements. I did that for the Salvation army, because I love them, and I did it for Mother's March Against Cancer. And, you know, just different things that let people see me out in the public know that I could speak. You know, I can articulate the language. And, you know, probably some people think I'm a pretty good salesman. So that's what opened that door. And, you know, it was the team effort going in that broke down the door and the barriers and gave us. Gave us that look. And I get credit where I don't deserve it, because there was a retail operation here in New York for a long time called Dr. J's, and I had nothing to do.

[DJ Envy]

Had nothing to do with.

[Julius Dr. J Irvin]

That I had nothing to do with. But people always say, oh, yeah, I

[DJ Envy]

was in your Store the other day.

[Julius Dr. J Irvin]

I wish you were.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, I know you gotta go, so I just got a couple more questions. Speaking of the Sixes, Allen Iverson.

[Julius Dr. J Irvin]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He always says you were his role model.

[DJ Envy]

Right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like a father figure. And I feel like you probably understood him more than most because of how people looked at you when you came in the league. Was that the reason you embraced not

[Julius Dr. J Irvin]

only in the league but in Philadelphia? Because Philadelphia is a unique city. You know, it's one of one. And, you know, they love you or they hate you. They love me, and they loved Alan. Continue to do so. So anytime I see him, I grab him like he's a little brother. You know, we're. We arm in army all the time and understand that, you know, we've gone through the Philadelphia experience and will continue to enjoy the benefits of it as well as understand the downside. You know, it's really funny. Doug Collins was a teammate of mine, and he said once, he said one thing I'm glad about, people in Philadelphia, they never booed me. And the crowd went. He said, we're gonna take care of this right now. So I said, I ain't gonna say that.

[DJ Envy]

You know what? You know, you gotta. I guess people were upset when you did your NBA list, NBA list, and you omitted LeBron James. And people were like, well, why? What's Dr. James beef with LeBron James? Did you have a beef with him?

[Julius Dr. J Irvin]

I don't have a beef with him, but I don't. I don't list guys till they retire, you know, so Jerry west and Oscar Robinson, Bill Russell, Elgin Baylor and Will Chamberlain. That's my team. I made the time. I. I decided on them when I was 15, and they were still playing, so they. That was the last time I did active players. So now that's my first team. For my second team. When guys retire, they get a chance to make my second team. That's just. That's just me. That's just the way I feel about it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who's your second team now?

[Julius Dr. J Irvin]

The retired team. I gotta take Magic. Michael Bird might not like this one, but Karl Malone, Tim Duncan, maybe Isaiah, all retired.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's classy to put Bird in there after y' all jumped him like that. Man,

[Julius Dr. J Irvin]

you ain't gonna let that go, are you?

[DJ Envy]

Who was your toughest player to play against? Who was the toughest?

[Julius Dr. J Irvin]

Oh, man, the guy who I hate chasing around was Bernard King. And physically, the. The toughest guy, Maurice Lucas, you know, Got to give him his props. Yeah. Nobody wanted to get elbowed by him. Although I did get hit by Buck Williams once. He gave me a good shot. And those, those are the only two guys I wasn't able to get back. You know, all the other guys, I can get them back. Those two guys, I wasn't messing with them.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

When it's all said and done, what do you want people to feel when they hear the name Julius Dr. J. Irving?

[Julius Dr. J Irvin]

I, I, ideally, if it was one of one, you know, the other day I was asked about, you know, different players. Who do you compare to, you know, X, Y or Z or whatever. And you know, I, maybe I, I kind of slide Drexler in there and Dominique and whatever. But I, you know, I, I'm in looking at basketball, I don't see myself out there. I don't see anybody who looks like me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I agree with that. Yeah, I was talking even just outside of basketball, though, like, when they hear your name, you know, in the future,

[Julius Dr. J Irvin]

hopefully it has withstood the test of time because I've been out since 1987 and you know, I walked in here, you guys are like, hey, legend guys here. So that's, that's out of respect and also recollection of that period of time which, you know, went on, you know, well before you were that conscious about what was going on in basketball. So you've seen the videos and, and hear what people have to say and then our impact in terms of our business decisions. You know, the, the racing team that I had with Joe Washington, Washington Irving Motorsports, and you know, the partnership with Philadelphia Coca Cola and you know, being three states back in the 70s, 80s, 90s and to early 2000s, actually, whatever. So those are things that I think are contributions to society, to community, and things that enhance my legend.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I think if you grew up in a black household who had a father who likes Sports. You heard Dr. J, you heard Muhammad Ali, you heard Abdul Jabbal. Absolutely. Even in the early 80s when Michael Jordan came around and how much we loved Michael, your pops would be like, oh, you like Michael?

[Julius Dr. J Irvin]

That's funny.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, man. We honor you, Dr. J. Honor you, value you and appreciate you. Brothers.

[DJ Envy]

Dr. J. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right. And listen, we a couple days away from the fourth annual Black Effect Podcast Festival in Atlanta. I'm emotionally and mentally preparing myself. It's hosted by DJ Envy and Lauren LaRosa. Drink Champs is going to be on that stage in conversation with CeeLo Green and K. Michelle Crystal. Renee Hayslett is going to be on that stage with her Keep It Positive Sweetie podcast. She's going to be in conversation with Young Miami. So it's a caresha. Please keep it positive, Sweetie Mashup Jeff teague and Club 520 is going to be there. Mona Don't Call Me White Girl Gritson Eggs Podcast with Deontay Kyle and Big Ice cupcat and Carlos King with Reality with the King. So we'll see you on Saturday, man, at the Black Effect Podcast Festival in Atlanta. And anybody that's been knows it's not just a day of watching entertaining podcasts on stage. It's really a networking event. Correct. You know anybody who's serious about the business of podcasting, this is the place that you want to be? Absolutely. I could call it podcast call if

[DJ Envy]

I want to, yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But I don't see the point.

[DJ Envy]

Well, if you haven't Got your tickets? Get your tickets. We have a lot of fun on Saturday. All right, well, let's get to the latest with Lauren.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We ain't got no Lauren. Cool. Yeah, I got faith in her.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm the home girl that knows a little bit about everything and everything. Little brown girls look at you and go, I want to be like you.

[Dr. Jess]

Take me through that.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Take me through there she going.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The latest with Lauren on the Breakfast Club. LL Cool B, talk to me.

[Lauren LaRosa]

All right, y'.

[Caller/Listener]

All.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So we are going to open the latest this hour celebrating Emma Greed and Chanel Jones. So these two women recently released books and they made the new last week. Yes. They made the New York Times best sellers list for the how to Advice list.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They didn't just make them.

[Lauren LaRosa]

They're in the top five of the list now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They wanted two.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes. Chanel Jones, Through Mom's Eyes.

[Dr. Jess]

Let me finish.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Thank you. Through Mom's Eyes is number one, Emma Greed's. Start with yourself. She was here on the Breakfast Club talking about is number two, Mel Robbins. The let them theory is number three. And then you have Downproof by Andy Stump and Atomic Habits by James Clear.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Now let me tell you something, man. Getting on the New York Times bestsellers list, Advice how to miscellaneous list, it' very tough because you are constantly battling against classic advice books. You said Atomic Habits. That's been out for years. Okay. To Let Them theory about Mel Robbins, you know, that's a monster. That's been out for like almost two years now, I think. At least.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, about a year and a half.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. But those type of books rarely leave the list. So you have to sell a lot of copies in a week to make that list. So for Emma Greed to be number two and Chanel Jones to be number one on that list, that's a big deal. Drop on the clues bounce to both of them 100%.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes.

[DJ Envy]

Very difficult to get on that. That list.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I didn't know that this column was so difficult until we talked about it.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, very difficult.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Think about stuff like Return to Love by Marianne Williamson or the Alchemists. But that's what I mean, those books like that are always on those lists. So the breakthrough on those lists and actually being one and two.

[Dr. Jess]

Yeah, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And Chanel dropping the clues bombs for

[Lauren LaRosa]

Chanel Jones, Today's show, by the way. Yeah, yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She's a journalist on the Today show. Her husband died of brain cancer last year.

[Caller/Listener]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And now a year later, she's sitting on top of the New York Times bestsellers advice list. Trust me, as Someone who is in the book business. That's a big deal. A huge, absolute, huge, huge deal.

[DJ Envy]

Well, the list alone is very difficult to get into, and that advice column is very difficult. Now your book is going to be an advice column too.

[Dr. Jess]

Yep.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, it is.

[DJ Envy]

So if you haven't pre ordered Jess's book, definitely pre order Jess's book, Till Death do we pair it, which comes out on the 20.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You got to start some controversy or something. You got to say something to get.

[DJ Envy]

Did I just say that out there?

[Lauren LaRosa]

But we talked about some things and feeding, you know, some of the episodes. She got it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But I do. That's a good point. Right. Because I want to say to the social media, you know, they spend so much time talking about what they don't like and not enough time amplifying what they should like. Okay. Because while y' all was having all these discussions about Emma Greed and what did. What you didn't like about her book rollout, people were still going out there supporting, and she debuted at number two. But Chanel was out here turning her pain into purpose. And she put out an amazing body of work called Through Mom's Eyes, Simple Wisdom from Mothers who Raise Extraordinary Humans. And she's number one. And that's a book talking about parenting insights and life lessons and personal stories with other mothers of successful celebrities and public figures. I didn't see much conversation about that on social media. Y' all talking about what y' all don't like. But she's number one black woman.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[Dr. Jess]

Shout out to Chanel Jones.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You know how that go though, people?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, I don't know.

[DJ Envy]

I do.

[Lauren LaRosa]

People like the static. Well, you wouldn't know some days. Well, let's let.

[Dr. Jess]

Okay.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Congratulations.

[DJ Envy]

Some people like the static. And sometimes the static is what gets people, you know, to. To open their eyes to see certain things. And then some people just like the real.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And that's right.

[DJ Envy]

They need advice with raising kids and having a difficult time. And that's what. What she was able to. To deliver. And that's right. Salute her.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes. Salute to Chanel.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And Emma.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And Emma. Now moving on. Speaking of the static, so Snoop Dogg. So Snoop Dogg was performing at a show. It was a 4:20 show that he did this 420 show at Red Rocks Amphitheater. And Ice Cube performed, too. Sure. It was, you know, celebrating 420, the weed holiday for those who don't know. And he's performing on the stage. And at some point, because there's a stripper on the stage, which is a Part of a set. And at some point, there's a little girl who makes her way on stage. Right now, this video of this little girl. And she's just there dancing.

[DJ Envy]

He's performing.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Drop it like it's hot.

[Dr. Jess]

She dancing like she dancing to hip hop, Harry.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, but you know, her little kids, they just be jumping around.

[Dr. Jess]

That's what I'm saying.

[Caller/Listener]

Like, that's.

[Dr. Jess]

Yeah, she was jumping around, doing her thing.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So this. The little girls on stage jumping around, just enjoying herself. Snoop is like hyping her up. You know, people in the crowd are loving it. And then it starts to go viral on social. And now the conversation is how horrible it looks to have this little girl who looks about maybe six or seven years old on stage while there is a woman on the pole still performing. And, and, and right next to the pole, too. Right next to the little girls in the middle, between Snoop and the woman on the pole. And no, it was just a performance.

[DJ Envy]

His performance. During his performance, he has to strip

[Charlamagne Tha God]

a pole out there.

[DJ Envy]

And they're performing, dropping like it's hot. The girl is sliding up and down the pole. Yeah, she's doing her thing, I guess. A family member puts this girl on stage and Stoop's performing. The girl's dancing while the stripper is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I didn't see the video, so.

[Dr. Jess]

And the stripper was big, clapping that ass. And the little girl was big, clapping her hands. Yeah, just right there rapping.

[Lauren LaRosa]

But people were upset. They said that the number one, the little girl shouldn't have been at the show.

[Dr. Jess]

Number two, no, she shouldn't.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Why would she be on the stage? But I. I feel like little kids love Snoop Dogg, though.

[Dr. Jess]

No, absolutely, they. They can love Snoop Dogg. Yes. But at the same time, if we know who we're going to see and we know what his act consists of, why would you bring your child there? And then furthermore, why would you push your child up there on stage? Now, Snoop didn't touch her. Snoop didn't, you know, interact with her at all. But why would you put your child on that stage?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I didn't see the video, but I think y' all explained it in the first 20 seconds when y' all said it was a 4:20 event. Everybody was high, ladies and gentlemen, okay? Nobody was thinking and nobody was in their right mind, clearly, okay? Everybody was out of there.

[DJ Envy]

There's a time and a place to, like Snoop Dogg, right where he's performing, drop it like it's hot. And there's a stripper on. On dancing on the pole.

[Dr. Jess]

Dropping it.

[DJ Envy]

I don't think that's the time to put your daughter on. On stage.

[Dr. Jess]

Yes. Now, Snoop didn't pull up there. Her parents put up there. That's the thing.

[DJ Envy]

Did Snoop respond?

[Lauren LaRosa]

I didn't see a response from Snoop.

[DJ Envy]

Did he?

[Caller/Listener]

Probably.

[DJ Envy]

I thought. I thought I seen Snoop. I'll say. Allegedly. I thought I seen Snoop.

[Julius Dr. J Irvin]

Say.

[DJ Envy]

Well, the parents put her on stage, and the little girl just wanted to have fun, you know, Uncle Snoop. But.

[Dr. Jess]

But she was having fun. And I'm gonna tell you, she did not look one time at the stripper. She was just happy to be on stage.

[Lauren LaRosa]

She was a. Being a little kid, like, just doing the things, you know, look at me. And then they do, like, a cartwheel.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, but y' all should be mad at the parents.

[Dr. Jess]

Like, I am mad at the parents,

[Lauren LaRosa]

but I was trying to find more

[Charlamagne Tha God]

videos to tackle the little girl. Like, rules are rules. Nobody should be on this stage. Rules are rules. See? But then the security would do their job. Everybody would be mad, man. That's okay. Should be mad at the parents, not Snoop.

[Dr. Jess]

I'm definitely mad at the parents.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I was just trying to find more video of how she got to the stage. Like, what. How that happened. But, yeah, that's it for this hour and the latest.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, definitely be mad at the parents. But like Charlamagne said, since it was a 420, but they'd probably high as a kite.

[Dr. Jess]

But wait. But all right, yeah, I'm mad at the parents, but at no point, Snoop couldn't be like, yo, all right, Nah, get. Get her out of here. No, come on. Get, get, get, get. Y' all child. Come on now. Come on.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, he should have.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I'm saying? Snoop might have been super high. I was like, is that a little kid? You rapping and you trying to perform? I think I see a little kid, because I think I'm tripping, cuz I know ain't no little kid. Why would a cute little kid be on stage?

[DJ Envy]

He might have thought it was a midget.

[Dr. Jess]

I was gonna say, yeah, it might have been a little dancing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, they dance like kids too high on 420. And your peripheral, you just see a little person on stage. Like, you know, let me just mind my business.

[Dr. Jess]

I'm gonna just look straight.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm gonna just look straight. Snoop didn't go nowhere near the Luke kid. He didn't.

[Dr. Jess]

That's what I said.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's probably what happened.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Like, that's why it look like everybody's

[Dr. Jess]

in their own place.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, I was tripping.

[DJ Envy]

I was tripping.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I got to stay off this moon rock. I knew I shouldn't have smoked this goddamn mov.

[DJ Envy]

That's the latest.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah. Coming up in the next latest, we'll talk about Russell Brand. And you know why he says he is able to sleep with a 16 year old.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Terrible segue. I mean, that was.

[Caller/Listener]

Jesus.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That seg was one of the most disgusting segues ever heard in my life. What you want play next?

[DJ Envy]

All Kelly.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's that. That.

[DJ Envy]

That's that what you want?

[Dr. Jess]

Oh, my God.

[DJ Envy]

You going do next?

[Dr. Jess]

And then, you know, you can always count on them to make it worse.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

My God.

[Julius Dr. J Irvin]

Jesus.

[Lauren LaRosa]

All right, sorry, y'.

[Dr. Jess]

All.

[DJ Envy]

Who you giving the dog to?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Sir, before, after the hour, we need a woman named as Ashley Gonzalez to come to the front of the congregation.

[DJ Envy]

There's mad Ashley Gonzalez is out there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. I bet you don't want to play a game of rest. Guess what race it is. I think you can figure this one out.

[DJ Envy]

All right, we'll get to that next. And then don't forget, just fix my messes up next too. So if you have any relationship advice or any Type of advice, 800-585-1051. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, Peace of the planet. Charlamagne Tha God here. And it's time for our Shopify stories segment. Today, I'm sitting down with Lauren LaRosa ll Cool Bay, and we're talking about what to expect at this year's the Black Effect Podcast Festival. Now, if you've ever been, this isn't just panels. It's a family affair, okay? It's not just live shows either. This is really, you know, turning into a full ecosystem for creators, entrepreneurs, and people who are serious about building something of their own. Now, Lauren, I know you're hosting this year, okay? Every year the Black Effect grows, okay? Every year the festival grows. But this year it feels different, okay? When people pull up, what are they actually walking into?

[Lauren LaRosa]

They are walking into intention. So this year we're really focusing on making sure that experience goes beyond just the content. So, yes, you're going to see your favorite podcast, your favorite voices, but you're also stepping into a marketplace of small black owned businesses that are building real products and real brands.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And that's important because for a long time, you know, we've been the culture, but not always the owners of the culture. So to actually walk into a space where you can see ownership, you can touch ownership, you can support ownership, that is different.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes, exactly. And we're talking about brands and beauty, wellness apparel. My brand will be there. And more people who start brown girl grinding. We'll have all the brown girl grinding merch there as well. People who started with an idea, I'm one of the people, and turned it into something tangible.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I love that people are being intentional about who is in that room too. Okay? You've got brands like Be Rooted, who are all about intentional living and journaling, helping people slow down and really tap into themselves. That's very important to stay mentally and emotionally healthy. You've got Dustin Ruff candle company, bringing that luxury candle experience, creating a whole vibe and atmosphere, and then stirs and mixes. You know, taking something like cocktails and turning it into a creative, packaged experience people can actually take home. And what I like about that is it shows range. Okay, this isn't one lane. This is creativity meeting business across the board.

[Lauren LaRosa]

That is exactly it. We wanted to mix a bunch of brands that reflect how diverse we as creators and entrepreneurs are. And now they're in a space where thousands of people can discover, support them, and grow with them.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And let me say this, too. This isn't just come buy something and leave. This is networking. Okay? It's relationship building. This is, I met somebody at a table, and now we're collaborating on something six months later. That's how ecosystems get built.

[Lauren LaRosa]

That's really what the goal is. We want you guys to get out, talk to people that are there. We want people to leave with real connections, not just content, because content inspires you, but connection is what sustains you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And speaking of sustainability, we've got to talk about Shopify because they're playing a big role in making sure their businesses don't just show up, they level up.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Absolutely. Shopify is coming in with real tools, real support, and real education. So if you're a business owner or even just thinking about becoming one, you're going to have the access to information that can help you actually build and scale.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And that's key because a lot of people got ideas, a lot of people got talent. But not everybody knows how to turn that into a business. Shopify is helping bridge that gap. Okay? You've got the vision. Now here's how you execute, right?

[Lauren LaRosa]

From setting up your storefront to understanding your customers, to actually converting attention into revenue, it's about making entrepreneurship actually feel accessible, not intimidating.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And that's why I want to challenge the creators listening right now, because we're in a time where everybody wants to go viral. Everybody wants views, but views don't equal ownership. All right, you've got to start asking yourself, what do I own? What am I building? If the algorithm disappears tomorrow, what do I still have? And that's what spaces like the black effect and partnerships like shopify are trying to teach.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And being at the festival, you can actually feel the shift in real time. You're surrounded by a bunch of people who look just like you, who started where you are, and now they're running businesses. It makes it real. It makes it feel actually possible.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

When you say look like you don't mean shut up. Don't call me twin if you ugly.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah. Oh, we gonna be in atlanta. They're gonna love to call you bald head self twin now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because sometimes all people need is exposure. Sometimes you don't even know what's possible until you see it up close. And once you see it, you can't unsee it.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Exactly. It's like planting a seed. And whether you're ready right now or not, you leave thinking bigger.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So for anybody pulling up to the black effect podcast festival this year, don't just come as a fan. Don't just come to take pictures and post. Come with intention. Okay? Walk the marketplace, talk to the founders. Whether it's b rooted. Justin ruff candle company stirs and mixes. Lauren larosa with brown girl grinding. Whatever it is, okay? Any of the incredible businesses that's going to be in the building, ask questions, learn something. Because this is bigger than a festival. This is about building ownership, building legacy, and really stepping into what's next for black entrepreneurs. So salute to shopify for helping make that possible, Turning ideas into businesses and businesses into something that can actually last.

[DJ Envy]

Don't be out here acting like a donkey.

[Julius Dr. J Irvin]

It's time for donkey of the day.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm a big boy. I could take it if you feel I deserve it. Ain't no big deal. Something you may not agree with doesn't mean I'm mean.

[DJ Envy]

Who's getting that done? Donkey that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Donkey that. Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't. Donkey of the day right here, breakfast club. You can call me the donkey of

[Dr. Jess]

the day, but, like, I mean no harm.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, donkey today for Thursday, April 23, goes to a houston police officer named ashley gonzalez. Ashley was also confirmed to have served in the u. S. Marine Corps between 2019 and 2023, where she attained the rank of corporal. Okay, E3. So a copy cop and a marine? Ashley is okay. Keep in mind, police and marines are both considered public servants. They are supposed to serve the needs of the public with no bias, no discrimination. But Ashley Gonzalez, who is clearly Latino. We have no need to play a game of guess what race it is. This morning this young lady decided to go on Facebook and go live in a black spaghetti top and express how much she doesn't like black people because of an off duty encounter she had with someone who she accused of trying to steal her wallet from her purse. Would you like to hear what happened happened? Let's go to KHOU11 for the report, please. The amount of times that I will

[Mimi Brown]

always and forever say that I hate.

[Lauren LaRosa]

This is video of what police say appears to be their officer Ashley Gonzalez going on a racist rant. The Instagram post was clipped and shared by community activist Dr. Candace Matthews. Monday night, the officer is heard saying a racial slur at least 25 times since the post post has gone viral. Gonzalez has been relieved of duty and in the social media video references. Being in the Marines, I felt like I was back in the Marine Corps. According to the Houston Police Department's general order, officers must comply with the code of ethics that mentions acting without prejudices. And they have a social media policy that prohibits them from posting anything that would harm the reputation of the department or city. The hpoul President Douglas Griffith said in a statement, quote, in no way does the hpou or its leadership condone or tolerate racist behavior from any of our officers. End quote.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

25 in a minute and a half. I've never even heard a rapper do that. Okay, who in the hell says let me record my racism and then hit sin. Can we hear it? Can I hear just the somewhat of just her ranting. Can I hear some of that, please? The amount of times that I will

[Mimi Brown]

always and forever say that I. I hate. Oh my God. I. I hate.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Like I hate y' all like you like.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't.

[Dr. Jess]

Oh, we were slaves this entire I don't give a.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like for a reason.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You guys were slaves.

[Caller/Listener]

You guys don't know anything better than

[Lauren LaRosa]

a steel like dog.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like let me get a Black person

[Mimi Brown]

on a 911 call tomorrow especially you're going to jail. I don't give a.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You're getting treated like bunch of because why the.

[Mimi Brown]

As you as a small ass are

[Lauren LaRosa]

you learning how to deal already?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like how the. Okay, I don't need to hit no more.

[DJ Envy]

Jesus Christ.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No more. Ashley, I know you are a cop. I know you're a former marine. But please don't think for one second that you can't get racially profiled too, okay? I Just got a picture of you up right now. All right, I don't understand how y' all think systemic racism works. They don't care that you serve this country. They don't care that you are a cop. You a brown girl in America, you can and will get profiled and discriminated against, too. There is data that shows that black Americans report higher levels of frequent discrimination in police profiling, while Hispanics face distinct high levels of profiling regarding immigration status and language usage usage. Okay, Ashley, with that accent, that last name, Gonzalez, and that spaghetti top, you are guaranteed to be ICE's next top target. Okay, you know, I'm all for thoughts, just staying thoughts, but not when people are in positions of power like this. This woman said she couldn't wait to take a black person to jail on the next 911 call simply because one black person allegedly tried to steal her wallet. I'm glad that she decided to say how she feels openly because we need to know who's who, all right? Her actions can turn into consequences. She has a badge that gives her power over people's freedom. And that badge we with a gun. And her racist energy can lead to very, very, very, very bad things happening. Okay? She's not just racist. She's not just ignorant. She's dangerous. Okay? Systemic racism in a spaghetti top. Okay, Ready to ruin another person of colors day? This woman has to be fired. Okay? There is no rehabilitating this. When someone shows you who they are, especially in law enforcement, believe them the first time. And the fact that she thought that she was bigger than the program, she doesn't need to have the job as a police officer because she doesn't even care about the job. Because if she did care, why the hell would she go live and say these things? As I said earlier, why would you record your racism and then upload it? You are a former Marine and current Houston police officer, and you think it's okay to get on camera and tell the world how much you don't like black people. Either you think very little of your job or you believe people. People think that little of black people that you could get that off. Okay, if she can profile all black people because of one black person trying to steal her wallet, then police should understand why folks profile all police when something like this happens. Okay? Ashley Gonzalez is why there is no trust between communities and police. How does someone with this kind of bias get the job in the first place? How can you have this type of bias? Well, your last name is Gonzalez. You have an accent. And you're wearing a spaghetti top. Okay, Ashley, if you talk like this when the cameras are on, what are you doing when the cameras are off? Okay? Especially the body cameras. Behavior like this destroys public trust. Okay? You cannot wear a badge to protect people you openly admit you hate. That's not law enforcement. That's a liability. Please let Remy Ma give Ashley Gonzalez the biggest he hawk.

[Dr. Jess]

Hee haw.

[DJ Envy]

Hee haw.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You stupid motherf.

[Dr. Jess]

Are you dumb? Most definitely dumb.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Crazy. Yeah. She shouldn't be suspended. She should be fired.

[Dr. Jess]

Absolutely.

[DJ Envy]

I think she'll be fired soon. I think they gotta do a proper investigation. But there's no way you bring her back.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, they wait on a final ruling.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, there's no way she one of

[Dr. Jess]

the people that you drop off in the hood for the most gulliest black people. Just let them do whatever they want to her and see if she still talks like that since you hate us so much, you know?

[DJ Envy]

Well, she probably wouldn't, but it's still in her heart. Yeah, she still feels.

[Dr. Jess]

Yeah, but. But you know you gotta be racist with your chest, though, right? Not in your car.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But how can. It's so crazy to be racist. Like, you are also a Gonzalez. You are a Brownie. Yes. People out here getting profiled right now. What are you talking about?

[DJ Envy]

Makes no sense. All right, well, thank you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Got a spaghetti top on.

[DJ Envy]

That really bothers you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, it's not a stereotype if it's true.

[Dr. Jess]

I wonder what happened before that somebody made Shorty mad.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I just told you. She thought that a black person tried to steal her wallet.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Dr. Jess]

Oh, no, my bad. I was listening like you. I wasn't listening like you do sometimes. Damn. That's crazy. I didn't know that, but Shorty was mad.

[DJ Envy]

You know, she was a police officer.

[Dr. Jess]

Yeah, I heard that.

[DJ Envy]

The only thing I didn't hear was why she's Latino.

[Caller/Listener]

I know.

[Dr. Jess]

Yeah, I heard that. When you said Gonzalez, I was like, damn.

[DJ Envy]

I didn't expect.

[Dr. Jess]

Expect that story from a Gonzalez. But okay, okay.

[DJ Envy]

All right, well, that was. Thank you for that donkey today, sir.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, ma'.

[Caller/Listener]

Am.

[DJ Envy]

Now, when we come back, Jess, fix my mess. 800-585-1051. If you're having relationship issues or problems, call Jess now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. X.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

About me.

[Dr. Jess]

Relationship problems.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Ask about me.

[Dr. Jess]

You need to beat your coworker's ass.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Ask about me.

[Dr. Jess]

Your coworker need to beat your ass. Call it up. It's Dr. Jess, and I'm here to fix your mess. It's getting very much messy. Let me fix this.

[DJ Envy]

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlamagne, the guy we are the Breakfast Club. It's time for Just Fix My Mess. We have Aisha on the line. Aisha, good morning.

[Caller/Listener]

Hi. Good morning, guys. How are you?

[Dr. Jess]

Good morning, love.

[Lauren LaRosa]

How are you?

[DJ Envy]

Why you laughing so crazy?

[Dr. Jess]

Freddy Chipper.

[Caller/Listener]

Oh, my God. I'm sorry. I didn't think I was going to get through.

[Dr. Jess]

Well, you are through. What's going on?

[Caller/Listener]

Yes. So, Jess, so I've been with my boyfriend for almost three years. He cheated on me in the past. I forgave him for it, but the same girl that he cheated on me with, he moved to Virginia and he cheated on me with her again. So, I don't know. Like, he told me he loves me and all of these things, but I don't know which I should do.

[Dr. Jess]

Okay, so you're saying he's. He cheated on you before and with someone, and then he went to Virginia and cheated on you with the same girl?

[Caller/Listener]

With the same girl, yeah.

[Dr. Jess]

I mean. And you don't know what you should do?

[Caller/Listener]

I mean, he tells me he loves me and he wants to be with me, but, like, he's like, I can't leave you. Like, I don't want to lose you and stuff, but I'm like, I don't. I can't. I, like, I just. I just can't seem to get over it.

[Dr. Jess]

Yeah, what do you think he's telling her? That's all that's what they supposed to do to keep you, you know, Especially if you fall for it. Mama, come on. The manipulation is crazy. But you don't seem. You don't seem like you a tough cookie to crack, though. You don't seem like a tough nut to cr. Like, you seem like all he got to do is tell you what you want to hear and then you back in it, you know, you back to seeing the sunshine and rainbows again. But you're still hurt, though.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah.

[Dr. Jess]

Yeah.

[Caller/Listener]

He tells me, like, that he. Like, I don't know. It's just like, he's just, like, feeding me lies and just telling me everything that I want to hear. But it's like. And then he's like, oh, I can't. Like, I can't be without you. I can't live without you. And I'm just like, I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't believe it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, I just.

[Dr. Jess]

Right. So he. Does he live with you?

[Caller/Listener]

No. Do you take Virginia do you. Where do you live in New York?

[Dr. Jess]

And he lives in Virginia?

[Caller/Listener]

Yes.

[Dr. Jess]

No. Do you. Do you give him money? Like, do you take care of him? Like, what is it? Like, what do you do for him?

[Caller/Listener]

I don't. I don't do anything. Like, we.

[Dr. Jess]

We just.

[Caller/Listener]

Like, he just moved out there because he's still trying to figure out his life and stuff like that. Apparently. I don't. Like, it's. I don't know.

[Dr. Jess]

Yeah. All right, now, look. What does he do for you? Seriously? Like, do not give me no bs. What does he do for you? Honestly? What does he do for your confidence? What does he do for. For your intelligence? Do you learn anything from him? Do you feel like this is the person you want to live the left the rest of your life with? Like, what does he. Are you in love? What does he do for you?

[Caller/Listener]

I did. Yeah, I did. I felt like that, but now I don't. I don't feel like that anymore. And he doesn't make me feel secure, and I feel like he's gonna cheat every chance that he gets. And this is the same girl that, like, I found out about before, and we broke up about it before, and it's like, he's just like, oh, I'm just a man. Like, I can't. I can't stop. Like, it's just.

[Dr. Jess]

Okay, all right, stop right there. He already told you what it was, right? So he basically gave you walking papers, but you're not taking them. Girl, he just told you. He told you. I can't stop. I'm just a man. That's some bull. But I'm saying, if that's all he could come up with. Seriously, girl, he does not care because he knows that you're gonna fall for anything he says. He doesn't have to work very hard to get back into your good graces. He does not have to work hard. That's on you. So now that he told you that, he's not gonna be able to stop. You have to love yourself enough to keep it moving.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah, And I found out through her Instagram. She posted it. He didn't even post it. He wasn't even gonna tell me if I didn't find out.

[Dr. Jess]

Wow. All it is.

[Caller/Listener]

She was posting it.

[Dr. Jess]

Okay, she. Wait a minute. She was posting what, him?

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah, on her Instagram. Like, that's how I saw that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She was over there.

[Dr. Jess]

Yeah. Girl, that is his girlfriend. That's his other girlfriend. That's what it is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Ain't.

[Dr. Jess]

Ain't no. Ain't nobody that I'M just sleeping with. You know what I'm saying? If I'm a dude, ain't nobody I'm just sleeping with, posting me. And then this is a. This is. They have a history. They. That girl. They are together while he's in Virginia. Like, that's what that is. Somebody trying to figure himself out. No, he's trying to have a girl in every. You know, he's trying to create convenience everywhere he goes. And you're convenient for him when he comes to New York. She's convenient for him when he. While he's in Virginia.

[Caller/Listener]

She came from San Francisco to visit him day together.

[Dr. Jess]

That's who to relate. You decide at this point that is who he's with. That's who he's with. So I'm not, I'm. I'm not playing. This is some tough love, sister kid. Keep it moving. And I loved how you sound when I first answered. When we first answered the phone, you. Oh, my God, your energy. You sound like a bowl of energy. A fresh breath of air like you have. You're such a vibe girl. You don't deserve that. He does not deserve you. Keep it moving.

[Caller/Listener]

Yes, thank you.

[Dr. Jess]

Yes, love on yourself. Yes, love on yourself.

[Caller/Listener]

Thank you so much, Jess. Thank you.

[DJ Envy]

Guys, we're in the middle of. Jess, fix my mess. Hello, who's this?

[Caller/Listener]

This is Josephine.

[DJ Envy]

Hey, Josephine. What's your question for Jess?

[Caller/Listener]

Okay, so I've been dating this guy since January 2024, and we dated for two months. And he. Well, the first date, he asked me to be his girlfriend and he was my boyfriend. And so two months in, he goes to get a haircut and we cut a guy into our. Before he started getting his haircut. So I walked in because he wouldn't answer my calls when I was driving off to try to talk to him and I interrupted his haircut. So he broke up with me. So after that, we still, like, talked and whatever. And then like a year later, he asked me to be his girlfriend again. We started dating. Well, we were together and then he asked me to move up to North Florida with him. So I didn't want to move up to North Florida because the reason that I moved to South Florida is because my father lives here and I have no family up there. So we just kind of kept dating, kept in touch or whatever. But now we're back to, like, dating again and it just feels like we're starting over from scratch. And I just don't feel like we should be because we have, like, history. And so I'm just trying to decide if. Am I wasting my time or should I just walk away or should I just kind of, like, let it.

[Dr. Jess]

I just can't get past him the first time. Breaking up with you because you interrupted his haircut.

[Caller/Listener]

No, like, literally. But my dad. So I talked to my dad about it. My dad was like, okay, Josie, you don't. You don't interrupt a man's haircut.

[Dr. Jess]

Daddy, please, Daddy, chill. Like, that is not what we're doing here. So your dad might be a little player. Player, too. Anyway, he's.

[Caller/Listener]

He's patient. He's like. Like, so, like, intense.

[Dr. Jess]

So he wanted his. Those, honey. Oh, yeah, I understand that. I'm. Oh, my gosh. Okay. All right, all right, papa bear. But listen, this ain't about him. This is about the guy. Is he Haitian?

[Caller/Listener]

No, he. But he's Caribbean, but he's not Haitian.

[Dr. Jess]

Okay, I can't get over the fact that he broke up with you because you interrupted his haircut. I don't. I don't even know what that means. Like, what are you talking about? Did you walk in the barber shop and make a sense? Like, I. I can't get past that.

[Caller/Listener]

No, I just. I. What really happened, and I didn't realize this until Walida was. He didn't want to have this conversation in the chair, but he could have just answered the phone when I was outside. But when he walked. When he got up to. To walk outside with me to talk to me, the guy took the next person that was waiting for him, and he had to wait an hour to get his. To finish getting his haircut. So I think that's really okay.

[Dr. Jess]

That's still very extreme to break up with a bitch because you had to wait an extra hour to get your hair cut. All you got to do is text me. We'll have this conversation later. I can't talk right now. I'm in a barbershop. We're gonna get to you right after this, girl. Hell no. Do not move from south Florida to North Florida to deal with a dude that broke up with you because he blamed you for somebody else getting to see you on your feet, to lose your seat. That's it. All he had to do was tell you Imma talk to you later. He doesn't have patience right there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And that's all.

[Caller/Listener]

That's. I was saying, like, you could have answered the phone and said that.

[Dr. Jess]

He does not have patience. He has a control issue, and that is a red flag. So.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No.

[Dr. Jess]

Let me ask you something. Your father's Single, too.

[Caller/Listener]

No, my father was married to my mom for 10 years, and he's been married to his wife now for, like, 20 years. Over 20 years.

[Dr. Jess]

Oh, okay, okay, okay. All right. Because I was right. I was about to die.

[Caller/Listener]

But he is a player, though, so don't let.

[Dr. Jess]

Absolutely. Absolutely. He sound like a player. You don't interrupt the man man's, you know, haircut. No, no, no. Absolutely not. The fact that he vouchs for him is hilarious, but, no, I. No, don't move.

[Caller/Listener]

That.

[Dr. Jess]

That's my sentiments to you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That.

[Dr. Jess]

Don't. Don't move. You'll regret it. You'll regret it before a year. You'll regret it as soon as you get there. Because if. If. If you allow yourself to do that, then that actually is showing him that you're willing to do anything.

[Caller/Listener]

No, no, seriously. And he worked for an artist, and at the time he asked me to move, he had stopped working for the artisan and then got a job for the city where he's living. But like, two months later, he went back to working for the artist. So he's out of town, like, 75 of the time. Yeah. I was like, if I would have moved there, I would have been there by myself.

[Dr. Jess]

Exactly. No, no, no, it's okay. And then it doesn't sound like he have. He has too much stability either. He just kind of, you know, he. Nah, he. He needs somebody else that's fit for him. And you need to stay your ass in South Florida with your father and your stepmother. Go ahead and do that.

[Caller/Listener]

All right. Thank you.

[Dr. Jess]

No problem.

[DJ Envy]

All right, That's Jess fix my mess. 800-585-1051. Don't forget, pick up Jess book, pre order it. It comes out April 28th.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right. This Tuesday.

[Dr. Jess]

Yep. Co parenting memoir.

[DJ Envy]

All right, when we come back, we got the latest with Lauren. It's the breakfast.

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[DJ Envy]

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[Dr. Jess]

Becoming a straight fat.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She gets them from somebody that knows somebody. She gets the details.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She be having the latest on you, the Latest with Lauren LaRosa. Sometimes you have facts, sometimes you have details. Sometimes you have a little bit of everything.

[DJ Envy]

Well, it's the latest brought to you

[Charlamagne Tha God]

by Top Dog Law on the Breakfast Club.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Talk to me so real quick before we get into the latest. Floyd Mayweather just announced another fight. Maybe this is like a warm up for, you know, his fight against Pacquiao, but he's flight fighting someone in Athens, Greece on June 27. It is iron Mike Zambidis that he'll be fighting.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What happened to Iron Mike Tyson? Is that still happening?

[Lauren LaRosa]

The I believe the Tyson fight, didn't they put. Hold on, did they put that on pause?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And is the Pacquiao fight still happening?

[Lauren LaRosa]

The Pacquiao fight is happening. I know for sure. I haven't seen anything about that not happening. I know they tried to say it wasn't and then Pacquiao's team came out and said it was. But there were some issues with things going on behind the scenes. But this fight just came out of nowhere.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, you know what else came out of nowhere? When they said that he got a 7.3, 7.3 million dollar IRS tax law clean for unpaid taxes.

[DJ Envy]

I seen somebody else put online that, that he was, that they he owed him allegedly 30,000 for some. Something for a venue. So, yeah, he probably got to make that bread.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. I ain't gonna lie. I don't care about it. Then when the IRS. 7.3 million. Y' all get that back in blood, I gotta kick it out.

[DJ Envy]

I mean, if it is true, they're probably gonna sue him. But the thing with the irs, at least you could, you know, you could make a payment plan with them if words come to worse. But what you got to get, you got to. You got to pay him back. That's a lot of bread.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm starting to believe you guys now that he's on. Yeah. That he's on the money chase. Cuz I just asked someone who's really into boxing in the room Red. Like it was. Were we expecting this? Like, you know, sometimes the fights be like rumored. He's like, no, I don't even know

[Charlamagne Tha God]

where it came from.

[Dr. Jess]

Hard to expect.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This man has a $7.3 million tax lien. Yes, he's on the money.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes. But you know, Floyd Money Mayweather, you always feel like he got.

[Dr. Jess]

That's like. I'm just shocked that we even said sitting here talking about like that part of it. Because, man, I mean, you would think you got everything paid up.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I mean, you know, or at least in control or something.

[DJ Envy]

We don't know what bad investments or what happened that went left. I mean, Monday you could be good and then Tuesday you could be on a money chase.

[Dr. Jess]

I know, but if you got the right financial team.

[Lauren LaRosa]

But they say don't got that much money. Right.

[DJ Envy]

It can still happen. It can still happen. You don't know what happened with his financial team. We don't know the ins and outs. But like Charlamagne said, you never laugh. You learn because you could be in that situation.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This is unpaid taxes from 2018 to 2023. So you don't know what was going on. You don't know if he had a bad financial advisor. You don't know what it was.

[DJ Envy]

I mean, just don't know.

[Lauren LaRosa]

There's that lawsuit with Showtime still remember where he was saying that things were going wrong with how money was being paid out to him.

[DJ Envy]

So there he should be just grateful that he can get a fight and get a couple million to pay his bills off. Right. Because not too many people, if they are get into that situation. Like, you know what? I'm do a fight next week. Week or next month and be able to get a couple million. Most people can't.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes. All right, y', all, that was just, you know, Something I saw real quick switching gears. So Russell Brand, get him to the Greek actor, comedian. He, I don't know why he did this, but he was, he was accused of rape and sexual assault in the UK back in 2023. And he's been battling these accusations, which he's denies, but he decided to sit down with Megyn Kelly for the Megyn Kelly show to talk about it. Let's take a listen person.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

In Europe and in the United Kingdom

[DJ Envy]

where I'm from, the age of consent is 16. And I did sleep with a 16 year old when I was 30. But when I was 30, I was a very different person.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was a lot younger and I

[DJ Envy]

was an immature 30 year old. Consensual sex actually with a variety of people, when there is a strong power differential as there is when you're a famous man that has the ability to attract women that I had at that time, I think involves exploitation. I think it is exploitative. I recognize that my sexual conduct in the past was selfish and I did not apply enough consideration, barely any, I suppose, really, to how that sex was affecting other people.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What was the point of that conversation?

[Julius Dr. J Irvin]

What was the context?

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, why did he even bring that up?

[Lauren LaRosa]

So he's talking to Megyn Kelly on her show and what she brings up is, is, you know, at one point people were like listening to, because he also podcast as well too. People were listening to different things and different takes that he had during the pandemic. And then there was a, a documentary that dropped back in 2023 and this documentary went into a conversation about him dating underage women. The documentary that was revealed was an investigation that was done by the Sunday Times, the Times and Channel 4 over in the UK and it talked about him dating an underage woman. Uh, now this woman, her name, name, she's known as Alice. She, you know, because there's also allegations at the same time there's like four plus women who have accused him of different things from rape to, you know, predatory behavior, which he's actually in court for. So he's basically trying to clear this up because Megyn Kelly asked him. You know, we were angry and we upset, we were upset at you. You have some explaining to do, basically, like, why are these things coming up? And you like, we want to hear from you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's not clearing it up. You know, even when you say the legal age of consent, consent is 16, it's still a matter of, I guess, ethics and morals versus what's legal. Because I will ask, why is the age of consent. 16, like the age consent should not be 16. Anyway.

[Dr. Jess]

Anyway.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

In America, in certain states, age consent is 16.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Why is it. What is it in New York? Or was 17.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I remember that because of the Seinfeld situation.

[Dr. Jess]

Yes.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Or Seinfeld was allegedly dating a.

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[Dr. Jess]

No.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Alleged.

[DJ Envy]

He was dating a 17 year old,

[Charlamagne Tha God]

30. Who was like 38, 39. Dating a 17.

[Dr. Jess]

She was in high school

[DJ Envy]

and people cool with it. Nobody said.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because the legal age of consent is 17 here in New York.

[DJ Envy]

That's just not right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Once again, it's ethics versus what's legal.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, that's what he's trying to argue and a bunch of other things. The interview is. Is now live and he also talks about the. He talks about consent itself and how celebrity and fame garners you that. Let's take a listen.

[DJ Envy]

What I'm obviously not only querying, but violently or aggressively or assertively opposing is the idea that this is a judicial criminal matter where consent was overridden. Actually, what happened was, is consent was directed. That's what being famous and being, if I may say, forgive me, charismatic affords you is the ability to direct consent. That doesn't mean it's right. It's actually not right. It's wrong. It's a sin. It's an expression of selfishness and false idolatry.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Country.

[DJ Envy]

I provided a lot of material through my foolishness and my selfishness around women. That meant that when I became not a person that was celebrated by the culture as a representative of individualism, hedonism. You're the most important thing in the world. There's no essentially acting like if there is a God, you're it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. The, the age of consent should be raised because the power dynamic between 16 and 30 is definitely can manipulate what is considered consistent.

[DJ Envy]

And he was, he was married to Katy Perry too, right? At one point.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes, he was at one point.

[DJ Envy]

But why don't people dive into his relationship? Or like Charlemagne says, Seinfeld's relationship, like they dive into all these other relationships.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Like, I mean. Well, first of all, I feel like

[DJ Envy]

the fact that they didn't crucify Seinfeld, the fact that he was dating a teenager.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because it was legal.

[Dr. Jess]

It was legal, though. It doesn't matter.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's legal. I, I mean, New York is 17. I don't know what to tell you. You're not wrong. But once again, it's a matter of what's legal versus what's ethical, what's considered moral.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Now, as we listen, y', all, I Don't want to cut y' all off about the Russell brand, but I wanted to switch topics as we wrap Segwaying a bit to bring up the energy or I guess, yeah, bring up the energy. Have a better. A different conversation. Little Nas X sat down with T.S. madison for Outlaws, and people debate all the time about Lil Nas X sexuality. And if he's really gay, he cleared that up with TS Madison. Let's take a. A listen.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm. I'm gay, but if something happens, I'm. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna, like, stop myself. You know what I mean? I 99 lean towards men.

[DJ Envy]

Yes, but you will have sex with a woman.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm not saying I wouldn't. I'm saying if, like you said, like, a drunk night. I'm having a good time. Okay. Something happened and something happens. Yeah, maybe, like, I've had. I've had feelings, but they're mostly, like, emotional when it comes to women and not, like, sexual. You. It made me laugh because Lauren said people debate all the time Lil Nas sexuality. They do?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes.

[DJ Envy]

I just thought he was gay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

People debate all the time. LeBron versus Michael Jordan. People debate all the time. You know, Kendrick versus Drake. I ain't sitting around like, man, Lil Nas gay, yo.

[Lauren LaRosa]

A lot of it is people in the community. A lot of it is people in the community. The community. They think that it's a gimmick. Let's take a listen to the second

[Charlamagne Tha God]

clip with how I, like, present myself and how I go about things. A lot of people can see me as, like, very gimmicky, and I don't mind being called those things. I do like to put together gimmicks or schemes or whatnot. I think that makes fun. I can't be the. The darling girl for a lot of the community who wants me to, like, be this perfect, like, representation of what we look like. I mean, because that's not even. That's not true for anybody. That's not even true for straight people. There is no, like, like, perfect representation. I mean, if anything, I should be the perfect representation, because I'm not perfect, because that's very much people pleaser energy. You know what I mean?

[DJ Envy]

All right.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And I want to preface this too. This interview was recorded a year ago, so this was before little Nas X had the incident where he was walking alongside the road.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

By the way, he's not, if you want to have a debate, he not even really like, a top five flamboyant gay. Like, you don't look at, like, little Nas X and be like, that's gay.

[Lauren LaRosa]

He's leaned into it a bit more.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He's not Liberace out here. He's not Elton John with it. You know what I'm saying?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Like, I wanted to ask you your top five, but I don't know if that's right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He ain't Boy George with it. See, I'm older, so I'm born in 1978.

[DJ Envy]

The ladies who brought you, I feel

[Charlamagne Tha God]

like I seen top tier, flamboyant.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Top tier, top tier.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I used to work with Wendy Williams. I seen some gay. All right. Nas X saying, he.

[Caller/Listener]

He ain't.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He ain't never.

[DJ Envy]

All right. It's the Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Salute to the New York Giants. Today is their draft party. I'm gonna be DJing today at Hudson Yards.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They have two first round picks, poor guys.

[DJ Envy]

A six pick and a tenth pick, I believe.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So to those young brothers that's gonna make it to the NFL. I'm so sorry that you have to make it to the NFL via the New York Giants.

[DJ Envy]

That's fine. We have a great squad this year.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So immediately all your money gone. Just taxes gone. Taxes. I mean, immediately tax crazy. Like, whatever you think. You think you getting paid your rookie year.

[Dr. Jess]

God damn.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

40, 50% of that gone.

[DJ Envy]

It don't matter. You're playing for a great team in a great organization. So that's tonight. And then us tomorrow, I'm gonna be at Pittsburgh for their draft party. So I'm gonna be traveling all over

[Dr. Jess]

the place next week.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, that's right. And then Saturday, of course, we're in Atlanta for. For the Black Effect Podcast Festival.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right. Hosted by envy and Lauren LaRosa. And, you know, some of your favorite podcasts gonna be on that stage. Drink Champs in conversation with k, Michelle and CeeLo. Keep it positive, sweetie. With Crystal Renee Haslett and Young Miami Karisha. They're gonna be on that stage. Jeff teague with the Club 520 podcast. A lot of different people, man. Mona would. Don't Call Me White Girl. So, yeah, we'll see you out there Saturday. Go get your tickets. Black effect.com podcast festival. All right, there's other people. Let me see who else got him. Oh, Dominique Morgan is gonna be with Mona on the Don't Call Me White Girl podcast. Stormy Steel is gonna be with Carlos King on the Reality with the King podcast. Yes. So go get your tickets. Black Effect.com podcast festival salute to the

[DJ Envy]

legend, the icon, Julius Irvin. Dr. J, for joining us this morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let me tell you something. That's one of them interviews that I never, ever thought about doing. But, boy, when he walked in the room like, yo, that's Dr. J.

[DJ Envy]

Let me tell you how stupid Charlamagne is, right? So Dr. J has been on the schedule for a couple of weeks now. Charlemagne had no idea it was the basketball player.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, it said Dr. J. I know, but I'm thinking Julius Irving. Oh, when I saw Dr. J, I thought it was my guy, Jay Barnett, because we call him. You know what I mean? And there's a lot of people who be taking that moniker, Dr. J, and don't be giving it up for the real Dr. J. Never in my mind that I think the actual Dr. J, Julius Irvin, would be coming to the Breakfast Club.

[DJ Envy]

I thought about. I'm like, damn, I could have bought a jersey for him to sign and put up here. I mean, he signed a basketball, though.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But Adam sent a video to my pops.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, you did?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. That's a. That's a triple og, Right?

[DJ Envy]

Absolutely. All right. And then don't forget this Tuesday, your book comes out.

[Dr. Jess]

Yes, this Tuesday, my books. My book comes out. So I have a lot of press stops, and I also have Black Writers Weekend. I. I'll be attending Rutgers University for Black Writers Weekend in Newark this Saturday at 4pm and then next Thursday, April 30, in Brooklyn, New York, DUMBO. I'll be having a book launch for Till Death Do We Parent, which is my co parent, that is April 28, moderating the conversation. And is T. Whitlow from Fox. She's a Fox News anchor. So I'll be. I'm. I'm just really excited for it. It's a lot. A lot of work and a lot of press, but welcome to the book world. Right? I'm. I'm excited for it.

[DJ Envy]

All right, well, you got a positive note, Charlemagne.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I do, man. We've been talking about morals all morning, and I just want to tell y' all that without a moral compass, the human mind will justify anything. Okay? You got to have a moral compass. Y' all have a great day. Breakfast Club finish or y' all done? Program your Alarm to Power 105.1 on iHeartradio.

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[Mimi Brown]

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[Lauren LaRosa]

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[Mimi Brown]

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[Lauren LaRosa]

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[Mimi Brown]

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[Lauren LaRosa]

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