FULL SHOW: Tony Buzbee Denied Ability to Practice Law in Southern District of New York, NAACP Awards: Wayans Brothers Honored, Keke Palmer Wins Entertainer Of The Year + More

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Breakfast Club - February 24, 2025

Hosted by DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, and Charlamagne Tha God, The Breakfast Club is renowned for its candid discussions on current events, celebrity news, and pressing societal issues. In this episode titled "Tony Buzbee Denied Ability to Practice Law in Southern District of New York, NAACP Awards: Wayans Brothers Honored, Keke Palmer Wins Entertainer Of The Year + More," the hosts delve into significant legal developments, award ceremonies, and exclusive interviews.

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1. Front Page News

a. Elon Musk’s Directive to Federal Workers

Elon Musk made headlines by instructing all federal employees to report their weekly activities via email, threatening dismissal for non-compliance. This move aligns with President Trump's aggressive stance on reducing the federal workforce.

• Charlamagne Tha God [07:46]: "I salute the FBI Director, Cash Patel and Tulsi Gabbard for telling their employees no, they not responding to Elon Musk's email."

Despite significant pushback, including leaders like FBI Director Cash Patel and Tulsi Gabbard advising federal employees to ignore Musk's directives, thousands of workers remain anxious about potential layoffs.

b. Trump Administration’s Workforce Reductions

In the wake of President Trump’s policies, the Trump administration announced the removal of 2,000 employees from USAID and placed numerous civil servants on administrative leave.

c. Eric Adams’ Corruption Trial Delayed

New York City Mayor Eric Adams faces a federal corruption trial, which has been indefinitely postponed as the Justice Department considers dropping charges. Governor Kathy Hochul signaled she would limit Adams' powers without removing him from office, emphasizing voter will.

• Lauren LaRosa [37:05]: "I'm going to let the voters decide."

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2. NAACP Image Awards Highlights

a. Keke Palmer Wins Entertainer of the Year

Keke Palmer took home the prestigious Entertainer of the Year award, reflecting her significant impact in the entertainment industry.

• Keke Palmer [20:10]: "I didn't think I was gonna win because. Wow, wow, wow, girl, you killed that role."

b. Wayans Brothers Inducted into the Hall of Fame

The legendary Wayans family was honored for their enduring contributions to comedy and entertainment.

• Wayans Brothers [24:29]: "We watched on a black and white TV from that day on. Me as a child, I sat there. You mean not only can you dream, but you can make your dreams come true."

c. Dave Chappelle Receives President's Award

Comedian Dave Chappelle was recognized for his influential work, with his acceptance speech highlighting the importance of unity and resilience within the black community.

• Dave Chappelle [23:23]: "Tonight, man, tonight I feel invigorated because all my Netflix checks cleared. I don't owe anybody any work right now."

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3. Legal Spotlight

a. Tony Buzbee Denied Ability to Practice Law

Renowned attorney Tony Buzbee was denied the ability to practice law in the Southern District of New York, sparking discussions about legal ethics and professional conduct.

b. Exclusive Interview with Defense Attorney Joe Tacopina

Joe Tacopina, known for defending high-profile clients like ASAP Rocky, Donald Trump, and Michael Jackson, joins the show to discuss his legal strategies and the challenges of representing controversial figures.

• Joe Tacopina [42:22]: "Rocky stands out really, as a terrific guy. I've been dealing with Gucci for two years on this Gucci Puma, you know, all his shows."

Tacopina elaborates on the ASAP Rocky case, emphasizing the importance of upholding legal standards and combating perjury within the judicial system.

• Joe Tacopina [43:44]: "You know, constituency safeguards, and we can cheat a little bit here and there. That's when innocent people start getting convicted. And that, to me, is the worst thing that could ever happen."

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4. Additional Discussions

a. Wendy Williams’ Legal Battles

Wendy Williams disclosed her struggles with legal representation and the challenges of navigating conservatorship hearings, highlighting issues of autonomy and mental health support within the legal system.

• Chelsea Peretti [106:57]: "I represent for all the ball head, you know, melanated brothers who were in all those movies in the 90s and that there's a certain generation that appreciates that level of handsome."

b. Irv Gotti’s Family and Health Issues

Chris Gotti discusses the passing of his brother Irv Gotti due to complications from diabetes and a hemorrhagic stroke, shedding light on the importance of regular medical checkups and addressing health disparities in the black community.

• Chris Gotti [103:33]: "Irv doesn't go to the doctor, so that's why he's so late being diagnosed."

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5. Social and Cultural Commentary

a. Discussion on “Medium Ugly”

A lighthearted segment where the hosts explore the subjective nature of beauty, referencing Glorilla's lyric about preferring men with a "little bit of ugly." This sparks conversations about societal standards and personal preferences regarding attractiveness.

• Charlamagne Tha God [86:30]: "Do you like your men with a little bit of ugly?"

b. Black History Month Tribute

The hosts pay homage to black women in healthcare, emphasizing the systemic biases that affect their treatment and advocating for greater support and recognition.

• Charlamagne Tha God [112:19]: "Black women are at the heart of our community. They're our mothers, our sisters, our daughters, our partners."

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6. Concluding Remarks

The episode wraps up with a preview of upcoming segments, including an in-depth interview with Joe Tacopina and discussions on medical ethics, legal battles in the celebrity world, and ongoing societal issues.

• Chelsea Peretti [118:20]: "Remember when we were in that scene where you guys were just supposed to hug and I was standing there?"

Listeners are encouraged to stay tuned for more insightful conversations and exclusive content in future episodes.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Charlamagne Tha God [07:46]: "I salute the FBI Director, Cash Patel and Tulsi Gabbard for telling their employees no, they not responding to Elon Musk's email."

• Keke Palmer [20:10]: "I didn't think I was gonna win because. Wow, wow, wow, girl, you killed that role."

• Dave Chappelle [23:23]: "Tonight, man, tonight I feel invigorated because all my Netflix checks cleared. I don't owe anybody any work right now."

• Joe Tacopina [43:44]: "You know, constitutional safeguards, and we can cheat a little bit here and there. That's when innocent people start getting convicted."

• Chris Gotti [103:33]: "Irv doesn't go to the doctor, so that's why he's so late being diagnosed."

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Conclusion

This episode of The Breakfast Club offers a comprehensive look into current legal battles, celebrates significant achievements in the NAACP Image Awards, and provides listeners with exclusive insights from top legal minds. The hosts effectively balance serious discussions with lighter, culturally relevant topics, ensuring an engaging and informative experience for all listeners.

Listen to the full episode on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you enjoy your favorite shows.

Transcript

[Stephanie Beatriz]

Hey, Brooklyn Nine 9ers. It's a reunion. The ladies of the Nine 9 are getting back together for a special episode of the podcast More Better hosts Stephanie Beatriz and Melissa Fumero. Welcome friend and former castmate Chelsea Ferretti.

[Melissa Fumero]

Remember when we were in that scene where you guys were just supposed to.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Hug and I was standing there?

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Oh, yeah.

[Melissa Fumero]

I was like, can I also hug them?

[Stephanie Beatriz]

Listen to More Better with Stephanie and Melissa on America's number one podcast network, iHeart. Follow more better and start listening on the free iHeartradio app today.

[Morgan]

Do you remember what you said the first night I came over here?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Ow. Go slower.

[Morgan]

From Blumhouse TV, iHeart podcasts and Ember 20 comes an all new fictional comedy podcast series. Join the flighty Damien Hirst as he unravels the mystery of his vanished boyfriend. I've been spending all my time looking for answers about what happened to Santi and what's the way to find a missing person. Sleep with everyone he knew, obviously. Listen to the hookup on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This is John Cameron Mitchell and my new fiction podcast series, Cancellation island stars Holly Hunter as Karen, a wellness influencer who launches a rehab for the recently cancelled. In the future, we will all be canceled for 15 minutes. But don't worry, we'll take you from broke to woke or your money back. Cancellation Island's revolutionary rehab therapies, like bad touch football, anti racism spin class, and mandatory ayahuasca ceremonies are designed to force the council to confront their worst impulses. But everything starts to fall apart when people start disappearing.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Karen, where have you brought us?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Cancellation island, where a second chance might just be your last. Listen to Cancellation island on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm Emila, host of the podcast Crumbs. For years, I had to rely on other people to tell me my story.

[Morgan]

And what I heard wasn't good.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You really?

[Melissa Fumero]

Last night, it felt like I lived.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Most of my life in a blackout.

[Morgan]

I was trapped in addiction.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

I had to grab the lamp and.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Smashed it against the walls.

[Melissa Fumero]

And then I decided I wanted to.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Tell my own story. Listen to crumbs on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Good morning, usa.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Jess Laris is out today. What up, Lon LaRosa.

[Melissa Fumero]

Good morning, y'all.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Charlamagne, the God, peace to the planet.

[Chelsea Peretti]

It's Monday. Good morning. How y'all feel out there? I feel blessed. Black and highly favored. Happy to be here another day to serve our beautiful listeners. What's happening?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right. It's Monday morning to the work week. How you feeling? How you feeling, Lauren?

[Melissa Fumero]

I feel good.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You all right?

[Melissa Fumero]

Yeah, I'm great. I had a great weekend.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Good weekend.

[Melissa Fumero]

Was at home with the family, watching the award shows. Y'all watched NAACP Image Awards?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I didn't watch.

[Chelsea Peretti]

No, I watched. You know what, though? I turned it on Saturday.

[Melissa Fumero]

It should do it a Sunday.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Yeah, but I turned it on. When I turned it on, I caught. I literally turned it on when Vice Vice President Kamala Harris came to the stage to do her speech. And then it was another time I saw it. Gabrielle Yunin and Taraji P. Henson were introducing an award for bet, and Scott Mills came up there and accepted the award. But that's all I saw.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nah, I didn't. I didn't see it. I had an old man moment this weekend.

[Chelsea Peretti]

What do you mean, you had an old man moment? You an old man?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was about to say, but I had a moment, though. I was walking outside. It was a Friday and it was still cold, and I slipped on the ice. And, boy, I was skating and dancing for at least 30 seconds. And I was trying not to fall, trying not to fall. The next thing I know, my feet went over my head. I was on my back. And then I didn't just pop right up. It took me a second to get up. Like, I had to think about it. I had to reevaluate life in that moment.

[Melissa Fumero]

Was this outside your house?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Melissa Fumero]

So you got video?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Of course.

[Melissa Fumero]

Can we see it?

[John Cameron Mitchell]

No.

[Chelsea Peretti]

That happened to me early in the winter, too, man. Walking to the mailbox. And I was on the phone, too. And, you know, it was so crazy. I was on the phone and I fell and landed straight on my back. Didn't hit my head or anything like that. And never got off the phone. And the person that was on. I was on the phone, never knew I fell or anything. I just got up and kept it moving. And it just lets you know that your reaction to things is what makes you embarrassed or not. Because if nobody's around and nobody sees it, did it happen? It's just you in the ground, knew.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You fell, and God, but it hurt so bad. Like, I fell on my back and my ass, right? And when I say I was, I was hurt. Like, I was, like, upset.

[Melissa Fumero]

Like, was you in pain? So your ego was hurt?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

My ego was hurt. And I was in pain, too. I was in pain, too. I ain't gonna front. I was in pain. But then when I felt like I kind of slid a little. Cause it was ice. It wasn't just like you felt it. I kind of, like, slid a little. And it was funny to me, but, you know, I had that moment.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Black ice. That black ice will make you racist. That black ice will be like, you know what? Keep rolling back all the DEI initiatives. Keep dismantling the eeoc. Whatever you got to do to stop blackness, do it. Because Lord have mercy, that black icing, no joke. You hear me?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Melissa Fumero]

It's getting warmer this week. So we're gonna get rid of all the black.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Yeah, yeah. How do we deport black ice? Can we deport black ice?

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Huh?

[Chelsea Peretti]

Is there a way?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know, but we got a special guest joining us. We have defensive attorney Joe Tacopina joining us. That's asap. Rocky's attorney, he was also Donald J. Trump's attorney. Michael Jackson's attorney, Alex Rodriguez, Meek Mills, yg, Swiss beats, Neos, just to name a few.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Foxy Brown, he worked on Michael Jackson's case, too, back in the day with Johnny Cochran.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, sure did.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Yep.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So we're gonna be talking to him in a little bit. And we got front page news, so don't go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Jess, Hilarious Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page news. Lauren LaRosa filling in for. Yes. Good morning, Morgan.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Good morning, DJ Envy, Charlamagne, tha God, and Lauren LaRosa. Happy Monday. How y'all feeling?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Good.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Peace, Morgan.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Good.

[Melissa Fumero]

Good.

[Lauren LaRosa]

All right, y'all, let's get into it. So topping the headlines, Elon Musk says all federal workers must report what they did last week or be dismissed. In a social media post, Musk said employees will receive an email requesting information about what they worked on in the last seven days, and any failure to respond to that email will be taken as a resignation. Now, the move comes after President Trump's heat. State said he'd like to see Musk be, quote, more aggressive in his efforts to slash the federal workforce. Now, in the first month of Trump's presidency, thousands of federal employees have been fired, the first of what officials say will be a wave of layoffs. Now, speaking of layoffs, the Trump administration is set to put all civil servants employed by the USAID, the U.S. agency for International Development, on administrative leave Monday at midnight. That's today. As well as cut 2,000 employees from that agency. A notice reviewed by the Hill shows that this maneuver is being called a reduction in force and was delivered from the office of the Administrator. Hundreds of employees contracted to work with USAID were fired. Fired following that order.

[Chelsea Peretti]

I salute the FBI Director, Cash Patel and Tulsi Gabbard for telling their employees no, they not responding to Elon Musk's email. Okay, like, like Elon Musk is not an elected official. He's not the president. You know, voters didn't vote for him. How is this immigrant from another country, you know, able to tell the government to do with their. Able to tell the government what to do with their money? And how is he able to tell government officials, hey, you got to send me an email telling, telling me what it is you do. Salute. I'm, I'm happy that they pushed back on Elon Musk this weekend. Cash Patel, the new FBI director in Tulsi Gabbard, absolutely pushed back on him. I'm happy to hear that people were.

[Melissa Fumero]

Still responding to the emails, though. I got some friends that work and I was with them when that email came out and they were gathering like, literally teams were calling each other.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm sure they were nervous.

[Melissa Fumero]

Yeah, they got families so scared.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Homes, expenses and bills. They got to make sure space.

[Melissa Fumero]

I'm sure it was like just a, like crush your T dot your I type of thing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm sure.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Absolutely. And if you live in a dmv, it ain't cheap. I'm just telling you so.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

But in another news, President Trump says he will be. He will not provide federal funding to states that don't comply with executive orders related to transgender women in sports. Now, speaking to governors at the White House, Trump's had an exchange with. He had an exchange of words with Maine Governor Janet Mills on Friday over this executive order. Now, earlier this month, Trump did sign the executive order that banned transgender women from participating in women's sports. Trump and Maine Governor Janet Mills had a bit of an exchange which resulted in Trump telling her that he doesn't see a future in politics for her after her term ends. Let's hear more from that exchange. Trump and Mills.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Are you not going to comply with it?

[Melissa Fumero]

I'm complying with state and federal law.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Well, we are the federal law. Well, you better do it. You better do it because you're not going to get any federal funding at.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All if you don't your population doesn't.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Want men playing in women's sports. So you better come, you better comply because otherwise you're not getting any, any federal funding. Every state. Good.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'll see you in court.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

I look forward to that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That should be a real easy one.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

And enjoy your life after, Governor, because I don't think you'll be in elected politics.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So if you couldn't hear, if you couldn't hear the main governor, main governor Janet Mills, what she was saying, she was basically saying telling Trump that she would see him in court and that she's going to continue to comply with federal laws into which Trump said in the audio you heard. Yeah, I am a federal law.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Why are folks still talking about trans athletes? Like that is a losing talking point. America's not with it. And they keep making a micro, a macro with that conversation. It impacts such a small, small group of people, but it makes a whole lot of people think. Folks like common sense. So why are they even having that conversation? And I can't believe it's states that still want to die on that hill. Like, none of these states have a high percentage of trans athletes. So what do you, what, what's the issue?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Maybe it's just protecting the overall arching issue of trans rights or, you know, you know, that's still a, that's still an ongoing thing. That's still a developing issue to, you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Know, I don't know the probability, but I'm sure it's a higher probability of most people don't want, you know, men played in women's sports, especially if they have daughters that, you know, practice and that I'm sure the probability is it's.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Just not a high percentage of trans athletes in the country, period.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right.

[Chelsea Peretti]

So I know, I know state to state, it has to be even smaller. So, you know, whatever.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm not sure. Maybe they like to, you know, they're just again, getting ahead of the issue. But to your point. Yeah, I mean, don't, don't die on the Hill, y'all. There's so much more we could, we could talk about. But yeah, speaking of which, we'll talk more on at the 7 o'clock hour. It seems like my time is up. We, we'll talk about the Ukraine and Russia situation. Seems like there's going to be an update with that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right. And everybody else, get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, phone lines are wide open again. 800-585-1051. Get it off Your chest. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

The Breakfast Club.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Wake up. Wake up.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Wake your ass. This is your time to get it off your chest.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Whether you're mad or blessed, we want.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

To hear from you on the Breakfast Club.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hello? Who's this? This is Rico. Rico, what up? Get it off your chest, Rico.

[Chelsea Peretti]

All right, so look, I was checking out John Hope Brian, podcast Money and wealth legend, and I hear. Yes, yes.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Can I. Can we get the drum bomb drops for John, hopefully.

[Chelsea Peretti]

John Hope Brian, Money and Wealth podcast available on the Black Effect I Heart radio podcast network. Any way you listen to podcasts?

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Yes, sir. But anyway, I was listening to the podcast and Charlamagne. Your ad popped up, and I hear.

[Chelsea Peretti]

In a new wig for Lauren Laroque.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

And why are you always on lower head, man?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's crazy.

[Chelsea Peretti]

First of all. First of all, I'm not. I'm not always on Lauren's head. It's. It's bad wigs that are always on Lauren's head. And it's an ad for Amazon, and. And I'm just talking about products like, I'm talking about products you can get at a. At a discounted price on Amazon. And I just.

[Melissa Fumero]

I don't even know why you would put my wig and discounted price in Amazon together in one sentence all the time, man.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

It's crazy. Lauren, you got to start shooting back, baby.

[Melissa Fumero]

All right, thank you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So there's a promo running around with him talking about your wig and that you get it off of Amazon.

[Melissa Fumero]

You know what that sounds like to me? A defamation lawsuit. Defamation?

[Chelsea Peretti]

It's crazy. Listen, I'll win that case so easily when we go to court and they see your wig.

[Melissa Fumero]

Stop playing with, like.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Your Honor. Your honor.

[Melissa Fumero]

Look at this Wigany in here now. And she is that girl. Stop playing with her.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay? Hello? Who's this? Hey, what up, man?

[Chelsea Peretti]

This Paul out of Houston, Texas.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, Jamal, you called at the perfect time because somebody needs some confidence. Go, Jamal.

[Melissa Fumero]

Oh, gosh.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Bad, bad. I called Lauren LaRosa. Check your DMS.

[Chelsea Peretti]

All right, I'm in there, baby girl.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

I'm single, ready to mingle. I hope you are, too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, he's single, ready to mingle. What's your Instagram so she can see.

[Chelsea Peretti]

What you look like?

[John Cameron Mitchell]

FNBond.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

B O N D S. Look it up.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Now, how old are you? Using phrases like single, ready to mingle?

[Melissa Fumero]

He's definitely four.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Don't worry.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Look, Charlotte. Look, Charlotte, I've been wanting to tell you about yourself for a long time, all right?

[Chelsea Peretti]

But I'm using my time right now for her.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

All right.

[Melissa Fumero]

No, get him, babe. Go ahead.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Can't lose nothing. All right?

[Chelsea Peretti]

I know Drake lost a lot of sleep for the last year and some change, okay?

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Oh, he didn't. No, he didn't.

[Chelsea Peretti]

I'm not arguing with you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, well, she's looking you up.

[Chelsea Peretti]

You found it.

[Melissa Fumero]

I don't even.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She don't see it. You better.

[Melissa Fumero]

What's the Instagram? Fn. What?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

S n_Ballon e, o n d s fn_Bons.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Fn.

[Melissa Fumero]

Yeah, I can't see anything. He has like. Oh, he's a private page.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, he's a private page.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Oh, yeah, hold on.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Yeah, genius.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He about to make it unprivate for you right now.

[Melissa Fumero]

He about to make it unprofit me on Friday at 6:36am on Friday.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What he said? What he said?

[Melissa Fumero]

He said, when you gonna give up this single?

[John Cameron Mitchell]

What?

[Melissa Fumero]

He basically said, when I'm coming home.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, when you coming home?

[Chelsea Peretti]

This might be your future husband and you putting his business out there.

[Melissa Fumero]

My bad.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, we'll see. We'll see. We got to analyze you make sure.

[Melissa Fumero]

You'Re not the radio station telling me to check the dm. You know, the listeners want to hear what you had to say.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We got to make sure you got a job and all that.

[Chelsea Peretti]

All right, man, I like the energy. I like the fact that he sent the message, but then he did a follow up phone call just to make sure you received said message. And he's willing to put himself out there over the air for everybody to express his. His desires for you. Lord, I respect that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't like the single ready to mingle like that. Saying that seemed like he really out aged.

[Melissa Fumero]

He does the Electric Slide for sure. He definitely does the Electric Slide without the clap.

[Chelsea Peretti]

First of all, the Electric Slide is not an age thing. You too should know the Electric Slide if you are black.

[Melissa Fumero]

I do it. But y'all were doing it before. They start doing that extra clap clap when they bend over. That's a different age of the Electric Slide.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

This is your time to get it off your chest whether you're mad or blessed. So you better have the same energy. We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. The Breakfast Club.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Hello.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who this?

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Hey, DJ Envy. This El Boogie.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yo, what's up, El Boogie? Yo, get it off your chest.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Hey, I need with my niece, Simone McKelvey. She works at the mayor's office in North New Jersey. A happy birthday on yesterday.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Come on. Oh, I forgot to hit cuz up and tell her happy birthday.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's your cousin for real?

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Oh, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yo, I already say McKelvey. Okay.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Hey, they might not be up. They went to the Little Wayne concert in Charlotte last night.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Oh, there was? Okay, okay, okay, okay.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Yes, you might not be up this morning, but if she is, happy belated birthday on yesterday. And my son, rest in peace, he'll be 37 on tomorrow.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Hold on. This Lawrence.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Yes.

[Chelsea Peretti]

What's up, cuz?

[John Cameron Mitchell]

I finally got it in.

[Chelsea Peretti]

I know. I'm sitting there listening like, hold up. Who the hell is this? It's my cousin Lawrence. Man, Most corner, South Carolina, all day. 843.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

843 all day.

[Melissa Fumero]

You know why you didn't say you was his first when you called? Is this a real thing or.

[Chelsea Peretti]

No, no, this is my cut, Jeff and beautiful.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

I'm so sorry. I want to say good morning to you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You sound like Charlotte.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Good morning to Lauren. If she's there, tell Lauren.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, he sound like Charlotte. Cousin. All right.

[Chelsea Peretti]

No, this. This is my cousin. Cousin. This is my first cousin. My daddy's nephew. Okay. My. His parents, uncle and aunt. Aunt Lottie and Uncle Harris.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, cuz. What's up, cuz?

[Melissa Fumero]

Charlamagne's.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What's up, Lenore?

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Hey, I was. But I know who I was gonna get on the line at first, so that's why I just say, what up?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So. Yo, cuz. Yo, El Boogie. Tell us a Charlemagne story right now. Good. Charlemagne story that we don't know.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Go.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Oh, I ain't got nothing bad to say about my cousin.

[Melissa Fumero]

He.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

He rapping.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

He rapping. 843803. All day, every day. And we so proud of him. We proud of him down here in the sc, man. We. We. I mean, this. What can I say? I can't really say nothing bad.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay. I wasn't asking bad. I just said any story.

[Chelsea Peretti]

But.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay. All right.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

I don't have.

[Chelsea Peretti]

I don't have. No.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

No.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Good story.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

He a little younger.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay. All right. Well, thank you for calling in, El Boogie.

[Chelsea Peretti]

I'm gonna hit you up later.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He's not gonna hit you up, but all right, man.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Thank y'all.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You definitely. You're not hitting them up.

[Chelsea Peretti]

No, that's not true. This. This. I actually talked to them.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay. That's. That's the side of the family. Salute to My cousin. My cousin Jamal. It was his birthday yesterday, too. Salute to Jamal. I forgot to call him yesterday for his birthday. I totally forgot. Well, happy birthday.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Happy boy. Happy born day. Simone, I swear, I didn't even know that yesterday was her boy date. I was talking to her. Oh, last Wednesday, too. She hits. She frequents hashtoria in Newark quite often. She don't even want to use my employee discount. Family discount.

[Melissa Fumero]

I love that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, well, get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, you can hit us up now. We got rumors on the way.

[Melissa Fumero]

Yes, we do. The NAACP Image Awards went down, and Kerry Washington wanted to make sure she didn't fumble that Tyler Perry bag. So we going. We're going to talk about it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, we'll get to that. Next, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlamagne, the guy. We are the breakfast club. Lauren LaRosa filling in for Jess. And let's get to Jess with the mess. Don't do no lines.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

On the Breakfast Club.

[Chelsea Peretti]

She's a culture with Lauren.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Lauren LaRosa.

[Melissa Fumero]

I'm back, and I got the mess.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Talk to me.

[Melissa Fumero]

So we are gonna get to the NAACP Image Awards. But before we go there, I did want to take a moment. This happened on Friday after we were done our show. News broke that Ms. Violetta Wallace, the mother of Biggie Smalls, had passed away. She died of natural causes on Friday morning. So I did want to take some time to just, you know, send some love to her family, to, you know, Biggie's family, and send a rest in peace to her now.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Definitely rest in peace to Ms. Valletta Wallace.

[Melissa Fumero]

Yes. And when you talk about, like, you know, black legacy and black family, we then can segue into the NAACP Image Awards because it was so much of that Saturday night the NAACP Image Awards went down. It was hosted by Dion Cole. And, like, I loved watching it because so many people showed up this year. So if you missed it, please go back and watch it on bet. So many people showed up this year.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I wonder why they did it on a Saturday. This year.

[Melissa Fumero]

I said the same thing. But then I was talking to Eddie, one of our ep, and he was saying, a lot of times, the BET Awards, like, the different awards that they do, are on Saturdays. I do feel like it should have been on a Sunday, how like, other award shows normally are. But the SAG Awards also did come on yesterday as well.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[Melissa Fumero]

Like, Jane Fonda had a moment or whatever. So maybe that's why they couldn't do. I don't know. But it was on a Saturday. Kiki Palmer one Entertainer of the Year, outstanding voiceover performance. Blue Ivy Carter and Mufasa, Outstanding actor in the motion picture. Martin Lawrence, outstanding actor in a drama series. Michael Rainey Jr. For Power Book 2 Ghost. And y'all know 50 was going off about that. I think everybody was excited for him. Yep, 50 said, I'm so happy for him. He's worked hard. In this moment, the NAACP is really all we got. We do bigger numbers than a lot of shows, but we don't get nominated because of diversity. Now, I did want to take a moment. I mentioned Kiki Palmer at the top of this, and she won entertainer of the Year. She kind of spoke to what 50 is saying as well. Let's take a listen to Kiki Palmer. I didn't think I was gonna win because. Wow, wow, wow, girl, you killed that role. You kill every role you do. I mean, your power, your vulnerability, your strength. You are exceptional. Obviously, Shannon, my hunky hunky, you know I love you, bookie. And Kendrick and Kevin. I mean, it's such an amazing category to be in with all these people. I just want to say it's so important that we all come here together and celebrate one another with one another. You know, you don't always have to ask at a seat at nobody table. Just make your own table with your folks.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I'm saying?

[Melissa Fumero]

And so while we continue to ask for more money, it's important that we remember that what we choose and what we deem is important is enough.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Is it a committee for the NAACP Image Awards? Like, do people vote? Like, how do you win those awards? How do they determine who wins those categories?

[Melissa Fumero]

Normally, how all award ceremonies are, but I don't know that to be fact. I can look it up for you, but I'm pretty sure that there is a committee.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, and what did Chloe do? Did Chloe do anything? I know she came up here with them.

[Melissa Fumero]

Yep, Chloe, actually. She presented Michael Rainey with his award. She came out with Journey, who is Jesse Smollett's sister. Journey Smollett. She looked amazing, by the way. Like she had on this silver dress. It was amazing. It was fire.

[Chelsea Peretti]

So basically, they wasted my cousin's time. They had her going all around with them, you know what I'm saying? To do promo for the NAACP awards and just had her presenting award.

[Melissa Fumero]

Well, I mean, they must already had their whole slated, so. No, I don't remember seeing a Chloe Bailey perform the pre carpet.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Nothing.

[Melissa Fumero]

Everybody did the pre car. You mean I didn't see her hosting a carpet? No.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[Melissa Fumero]

But again, there was a lot of one thing I did see which I thought was so brilliant. Kyla Pratt was on the carpet for bet and her and Kiki Palmer had a moment and I just. And it was so dope to see, like just, you know, we watched them on TV our whole lives. I thought that that was really smart of BET as well. But I did not see Chloe hosting a carpet. Now, another person who was nominated, not nominated, but who was showing some love at the NAACP Image Awards was Dave Chappelle. He accepted the President's Award and he also talked about, you know, just how special these awards are. Let's take a listen.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Each and every artist in here, every.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Opportunity we get, every time we're on.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Camera, on stage, we just keep chipping.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Away at this monster of a machine. But tonight, man, tonight I feel invigorated because all my Netflix checks cleared. I don't owe anybody any work right now.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Every time you see me, just know.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

I'm only up there because I want to be right up there.

[Chelsea Peretti]

That's important to say because he don't have to be nowhere, that he don't want that he doesn't want to be. So if he's there, it's because he.

[Melissa Fumero]

Wants to be there 100%. Now the the Wayans family. So Marlon Damon there was a ton of the way his family out at the NAACP Image Awards. They were inducted into the hall of Fame and they spoke as well too. And a lot of what they were talking about was like really just a big nod to their brother Keenan Wayne. Let's take a listen to the wayans brothers.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

On May 5, 1965, my brother Keenan Ivory and I watched young Richard Pryor make his television debut on the Ed Sullivan Show. Richard was animated and hilarious with very clean comedy routine. While I was seeing a funny comedian, Keenan was seeing his future. Keenan told ma he's leaving college to go be a comedian.

[Chelsea Peretti]

My mother said, a comedian.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Boy, I known you your whole life.

[Chelsea Peretti]

You ain't never said nothing funny.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Needless to say, my family was over the moon when Kenan first got his stand up appearance on Johnny Carson.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

We all watched on a black and.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

White TV from that day on. Me as a child, I sat there.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

And I was like, wow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You mean not only can you dream, but you can make your dreams come true.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Man. Drop on the clues bombs for the Wayans family. The Wayans Family is a dynasty. One of the greatest family dynasties we've ever seen in entertainment.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Chelsea Peretti]

I didn't see. You know, I did catch that part too. I didn't see Keenan up there. I didn't see Keenan or Sean up there.

[Melissa Fumero]

No, I. I don't. No, I don't believe I saw Sean. But I know Kenan wasn't there because. But they were. When they were presenting the award, everything was like to him. And they were talking about how they wouldn't literally wouldn't be there if it wasn't for him. But he wasn't there. But. Yeah, and their sister was there as well, too. They also had Damon Wayans Jr Jr was there. They just. I don't know, they're just. It's like generations of iconic legacy. Legacy, Natural talent.

[Chelsea Peretti]

I love it.

[Melissa Fumero]

Yes. Now, another moment that happened last night. Kerry Washington was accepting an award for the Six Triple horse and she gave a thank you speech and she thought she forgot a little something. Let's take a listen to her thank you speech as she accepted her award.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

I want to thank the fans. I want to thank my.

[Melissa Fumero]

Yes.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

I want to thank my family, my husband, my children, my parents. I want to thank Netflix.

[Melissa Fumero]

I want to thank Tyler Perry and Nicole Avaughan. I want to thank our beautiful, award.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Winning best cast ensemble.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

And I want to most importantly thank.

[Lauren LaRosa]

The women of the 6888, the 855 women of the sixth generation, six triple.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Eight, who proved to us how extraordinary.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Black women are, how extraordinary we have always been.

[Melissa Fumero]

Now in this award, I want to say it was a big night for the Six Triple Eight. They took home a few awards and. And right then and there, we were listening to her when outstanding actress in a motion picture. But they also took home outstanding ensemble cast and most motion picture too. She thought that she forgot to thank Tyler Perry. You guys heard her think Tyler Perry. She came back out during someone else's segment to make sure she got it in. Let's take a listen to that. I did not thank Tyler Perry.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I did.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

You did.

[Melissa Fumero]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Melissa Fumero]

No. People were like, wait, you did. You got it. Tyler Perry reacted to this and he basically said, you know, he was moved to tears. He can honestly tell that, you know, he didn't really know what he would be given in his life, but he knows he did something good and he's getting it back in return. People was like, she will make sure she keep getting that Tyler Perry. Check you goddamn right.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Tyler wrote three movies for her right after that. Right after she gave that other. Thank you. He wrote three more movies for her, right?

[Melissa Fumero]

And last but not least, VP or former VP Kamala Harris was there. She received the Chairman's Award. Let's take a listen to her. I thank everyone here for your tireless advocacy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Chelsea Peretti]

Today Available Features Compatible device Service and consumer activation of Nissan Connect Services package Required Use only when safe and legal. Subject to third party service availability.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

For more information, see nissanusa.com connect legal.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Apple CarPlay is a trademark of Apple Inc.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Intelligent all wheel drive cannot prevent collisions.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Or provide enhanced traction in all conditions.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Always monitor traffic and weather conditions.

[Stephanie Beatriz]

The more Better the merrier Title of your podcast all your old Brooklyn Nine9 friends are appearing on your favorite podcast, More Better. Don't miss Brooklyn Nine9 stars and show hosts Stephanie Beatriz and Melissa Fumero as they welcome their friends and former castmates back to laugh about old times and swap some stories. This week, it's Gina Linetti herself, the talented Chelsea Peretti.

[Melissa Fumero]

Remember when we were in that scene where you guys were just supposed to.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Hug and I was standing there?

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Yeah.

[Melissa Fumero]

I was like, can I also hug them?

[Stephanie Beatriz]

Then next week, the 99 nonsense continues as the More Better amigas sit down with Joe Latrulio, AKA Detective Charles Boyle. There'll be more laughs, more conversation, more stories from the set, and more More Better. Don't miss a minute you felt safe.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Enough to throw out a bad idea, right?

[John Cameron Mitchell]

I mean, that is the key because you're definitely not throwing out good ideas all the time.

[Melissa Fumero]

I mean, that's just not how it works.

[Stephanie Beatriz]

Listen to More Better with Stephanie and Melissa on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Morgan]

Have you ever looked into the night sky and wondered who or what was flying around up there? We've seen planes, helicopters, hot Air balloons and birds. But what if there's something else, something much more ominous that appears under the COVID of night? Silent, unseen, Watching.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

They may be right above your car.

[Morgan]

Late one night as you cruise down the road. Or look like mysterious lights hovering above your home.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Drones.

[Morgan]

Or are they?

[Chelsea Peretti]

We used the word drone because it was comfortable to other people.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

One minute was there and one minute it wasn't. Oh, that is beyond creepy. Do you feel like this drone was targeting you specifically? Yes, Absolutely.

[Morgan]

Listen to Obscurum Invasion of the Drones on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Do you remember what you said the first night I came over here?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Ow. Go slower.

[Morgan]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

Now take a big whiff, my bruh.

[Morgan]

Listen to the hookup on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

[Melissa Fumero]

And for your years of support. As everyone here may know, I grew up inspired by the work of the naacp, seeking to always live by the words of a distinguished NAACP ACP founder, W.E.B. du Bois, when he said, it is today that our best work can be done and not some future day or future year. And this sense of urgency is what we must have today, what we are up against in this chapter in our American story. This chapter will be written not simply. Simply by whoever occupies the Oval Office, nor by the wealthiest among us. The American Story will be written by you. Yeah. So last night was all a bunch of that. It felt. I mean, not last night. I'm sorry, Saturday night was a all a bunch of what we just heard. It felt like a big hug, a big family reunion. They honor Quincy Jones and a lot of other people in memory as well too. They had like a little music segment for. For him, it was a fire show. Like, I thought that this was a really great Year production wise for the Image Awards. And people, people popped out. The people popped out for them as well too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's dope.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Well, salute to BET. Salute to the NAACP Image Awards. It was on BET, right? I saw it on TV Land a TV1 or something.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It was on a bunch of things.

[Melissa Fumero]

I watched it on bet's app.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So yeah. Salute to bet. And I'm glad. I'm glad people are showing up. I'm glad people are showing out. And it's a great thing.

[Melissa Fumero]

I'll say. The male artist Chris Brown. Gotta make sure I mentioned that for Jess.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right.

[Melissa Fumero]

Yeah, it was. It was a good night. And I'm glad to start showing up.

[Chelsea Peretti]

To the NAACP Image Awards because you ain't gonna have nothing else in a minute. I'm telling you right now, negro, you.

[Melissa Fumero]

Better do exactly what Kara Washington did.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She.

[Melissa Fumero]

She interrupted a live segment to bring Tyler Perry to tears. Give your people their flowers.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And Charlotte, didn't you one of your podcasts win NAACP Award?

[Melissa Fumero]

Oh, Native Land, right? Yeah.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Yeah.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Salute to the Native Land podcast. Drop on the clues Bonds for the Native Land podcast. Angela Rye, Andrew Gilliman, Tiffany Cross. Day one. Day one. Don't give me the line. But they wanted I was coming back.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

On stage to make sure we. We shattered them.

[Melissa Fumero]

I know. That's right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right.

[Chelsea Peretti]

And salute the Carrie Champion. The Naked Podcast. She was nominated as well as R B Money with Tank and Jay Valentine. They were nominated as well. So make sure you subscribe to all those podcasts on the Black Effect iHeartradio podcast network as well as Reason Choice Media for Angela Rye, Tiffany Cross and Andrew Gillum.

[Melissa Fumero]

And as we wrap the Native Land podcast, one outstanding podcast and news and infra news and information.

[Chelsea Peretti]

There you go.

[Melissa Fumero]

That's to them. And we're wrapping it up now. They waving his finger.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, when we come back, we got front page news then attorney Joe Tacopina. He's the defense attorney in the ASAP Rocky case. He was defending ASAP Rocky. He also represented people like Donald J. Trump, Michael Jackson, A Rod, Meek Mill, just to name a few. He's going to be joining us. Great conversation. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Wake up, wake up. You're locked into the Breakfast Club.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Morning everybody. Is D. DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne the guy. We are the breakfast club. Lauren LaRosa filling in for Jess. And let's get in some front page news. What up, Morgan?

[Lauren LaRosa]

What's up, Envy, Charlamagne and Lauren. Let's get back into it.

[Melissa Fumero]

Okay.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So the White House says that the Ukraine war could end as soon as this week. That's good news, right? Speaking to reporters on Saturday, Press Secretary Caroline Levitt said the President is very confident he can get the deal done this week. And they're focused on negotiations. A change in tone from last week, week where Trump suggested Ukraine is responsible for Russia's invasion. And then when Zelensky wondered why he wasn't asked to attend US Russia peace talks in Saudi Arabia, Trump called Zelensky on social media a dictator without election. So on Friday, a reporter asked Trump if he thought Putin was a dictator. And here's what he had to say.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

I think that President Putin and President Zelensky are going to have to get together because you know what? We want to stop, stop killing millions of people. I want to see a ceasefire and I want to get the deal done. I think we have a chance to get the deal done.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So more on this. Ukraine's.

[Chelsea Peretti]

That was his answer to the Putin is a dictator question.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes, it is. That was his answer to the Is Putin dictators? So he just deflected. Yes, he did.

[Chelsea Peretti]

He just didn't answer.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Okay, pretty much. So more on this. Ukraine's President Vladimir Zelinsky says he's ready to step down if it brings peace to his country. The Ukraine president made the offer at a new conference on Sunday, saying, if it is peace for Ukraine and you really want me to leave my post, I'm ready now. He said he would be willingly. He's. He would willingly trade his position for immediate NATO membership. So if Zelensky steps down, that means that Ukraine will then become a member of NATO. So we'll keep. Yeah, continue to watch that situation and see what happens with that and other presidential news. The President is supposed to be meeting with French President Emmanuel Macron later this week at the White House. Switching gears, a former army chief of staff says President Trump's firing of the Chairman of Joint Chiefs of Staff is tremendously destabilizing to the US military. General Charles Brown Jr was fired on Friday night in a move critics say was an effort by Trump to get rid of the diversity initiatives in the US military. Appearing on ABC's this Week, retired General George Casey warned of the danger of sudden senior personnel changes, especially those who lead our military. Let's take a listen to retired General George Casey's comments.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

When you remove so many senior leaders, especially without justifying and giving due cause.

[Melissa Fumero]

It creates huge uncertainty in the ranks.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

That's extremely destabilizing at a time that's.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

A lot going on domestically and a.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Lot going on abroad.

[Lauren LaRosa]

What do you guys think about that?

[Chelsea Peretti]

I mean, it's interesting with these conversations, right? Because what I don't understand is if they are saying DEI means that a lot of people who lack experience are getting these positions, how are you firing actual experienced people but replacing them with people with less experience?

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm not sure that they're even necessarily being. Yeah, well, yeah, I guess they would be replaced, but, you know, how do.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Yeah, I just don't understand how you justify that. Like, how do you justify getting rid of, of, you know, him? It's interesting. I don't know.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I don't think you can. I really don't think you can justify it. Even if you're saying it's for the purse, if it's, you know, it's a bigger thing and it's a matter of, you know, this, this, this tax cuts and all of these things, that's one of those, that's one of those personnel that you can't justify cutting. You know, find, Find it somewhere else. Find, Find the coin somewhere else, guys.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Yeah, when you.

[Chelsea Peretti]

General Charles Brown. That's it, right? Like you just retired at this point?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. I mean, go on vacation, I guess. I don't know.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

But.

[Lauren LaRosa]

All right, let me bring things home to you guys. In New York, the drama does continue. New York City Mayor Eric Adams federal corruption trial is officially being delayed indefinitely. So a federal judge overseeing the case is considering a request by the Justice Department to drop the charges against Adams. This is the first update on Adam's case since the judge held a hearing on Wednesday. On Thursday, New York Governor Kathy Hle announced that she's putting limits on his power rather than remove him from office. Now, Hochul's decision comes after allegations that Adams made a deal to cooperate with Trump's immigration policies in exchange for the Department of Justice order to drop the federal case against him. Now, Hochul told CBS Face the Nation she doesn't want to undermine the will of the voters who elected Adams. Despite the outrage over the Justice Department ordering his corruption charges to be dismissed, she said she will, she'll resist any attempt by President Trump's administration to influence politics in New York City. Let's hear more from New York Governor Kathy Hochul.

[Chelsea Peretti]

We are not allowing the Trump administration to interfere in the operations of our.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

City, but I will always stand on.

[Melissa Fumero]

The fact that we are a nation.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Of laws and one individual. The governor of New York should not use her voice and her will to.

[Melissa Fumero]

Override the will of the voters.

[Chelsea Peretti]

We have an election in a few.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Months, in a primary.

[Chelsea Peretti]

I'm going to let the voters decide.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

But I'm also going to be very cognizant. I need to keep an eye on this situation.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So. Yeah. Didn't Eric Adams just recently sue Trump after, after all that, didn't he sum for like $80 million or something like that?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes, the $80 million that, the, that, I guess I want to say they took a.

[Melissa Fumero]

Took.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It was already part of the New York budget, but it was taken. And yeah, so Mayor Eric Adams is suing for that. There's not too many other updates outside of the fact that he has filed the lawsuit. But yeah, so Coco, she says, she, she said she would rather allow this year's mayoral election to play out, which the primary election for you guys in New York is June 23, 2025. So I'm sorry, June 24. Primary election day in New York is June 24. So you guys make sure you exercise your, your right to vote. Critics say that this order is part of a quid pro quo for Adams cooperation with the Trump administration on immigration. I really thought that we, we were going to be kind of done with this story once, you know, Hokul said she was just going to limit his, his power and, but, you know, it does seem that it, it's a, it's a lot going on up there. So, yeah, I will keep you posted. So that's your front page news. I'm Morgan Wood. Follow me on social at Morgan Media. And for more news coverage, follow at Black Information Network, Download the free iHeartRadio app and visit bin news.com One more thing, guys. We are watching a situation out of Rome in the Vatican. The Pope is in grave condition right now. So I'll keep you guys posted on that as well.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, thank you so much, Morgan.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Thank you.

[Chelsea Peretti]

All right, now, if you pray for the Pope, you know, is that more powerful than the prayers he could do for himself? Oh, I'm just asking.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know. I don't know. But that is front page news. I do have a question before we go into our next guest. Charlamagne. Did you go to Red Lobster this weekend? I know you said you was gonna go.

[Chelsea Peretti]

I did. I went Saturday.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How was it?

[Chelsea Peretti]

It was actually all right. I went there, I went there to get some Red Lobster to go. I had the lobster roll. The lobster roll was actually busting, but I was high, so I don't know. I'm be honest. I had actually had Two things. I got the lobster and shrimp pasta with marinara sauce, and I had the lobster roll and the lobster roll. I mean, both of them was, was good. But the lobster roll was really good because I ate that later when I was high. Oh, my God.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay. All right, I gotta try some this. Thank you again, Morgan. Now when we come back, attorney Joe Tacopina will be joining us. You know him, he's a defense attorney for ASAP Rocky. He also represent represented celebrities like Donald Trump, Michael Jackson, A Rod, Meek Mill, YG Swizz Beats, Foxy Brown, Neo, just to name a few. And we're gonna talk to him next, so don't go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Fizz Club. Lauren LaRosa, filling in for Jess. We got a special guest in the building ASAP Joe. He has represented Aon, MJ Meek, the Washington Commanders, Donald Trump, Foxy Brown, Neo Swiss Beats, and of course, ASAP Rocky. Ladies and gentlemen, we have attorney Joe Tacopina. How you feeling this morning?

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Tired, but really good. Really good. That was a five week war, but I've never been happier. And those two people, when I say those two people, Rocky, Reanna, are just such great people. I've gotten to know them over three years, really well. I babysapped one of the kids one during her super bowl performance.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Wow.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

They're just good people. They're really for real good people. You know, you just listed a bunch of people I've represented. Rocky stands out really, as a terrific guy. Yeah, really.

[Chelsea Peretti]

You know, it's interesting that people always, when they, when we see these cases, they always wonder how the client is doing, right? Like, how is asap? But I would think it's just more mentally and emotionally draining for you as an attorney.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

You. You hit it, man. I mean, because look, obviously they have the stress of, of the unknown, right? What's gonna happen? It was, it was, it was a lot for me. But of course, you know, they, they suffer in a different way because one day Rihanna brought the babies to court. And people thinking it was a ploy, like some sort of maneuver to get the droid to feel sympathy. Drew's not feeling sympathy. They know he has a wife and kids. She brought him to court because that could have been the last time he'd seen his kids for a decade or more.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Wow.

[Melissa Fumero]

That day.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Wow.

[Melissa Fumero]

Think about that.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

That's why she brought them. And people. The prosecutor made a big deal of it in his summation, which I thought was a fatal mistake, quite frankly, but.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And what gave you the confidence that when they offered you that deal, you said f. That because the world was like, he's facing 24, he only have.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

To do six months, three months in community service.

[Chelsea Peretti]

A black man in America. First thing I said, I was like, man, why take the deal?

[Melissa Fumero]

I think it's la.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They gonna let him go on a day anyway. Because. Because the jails are overpopulated. So what gave you the confidence to be like, I mean, obviously you guys won, but you weren't scared and be like, well, maybe we should just take this deal?

[John Cameron Mitchell]

And whose idea was it to not take the deal? Yeah, Rocky and I had a one minute conversation. Literally one minute, Rocky, here's the offer. I don't want to do it. What do you think? Let's go.

[Melissa Fumero]

Oh, I mean, love that.

[Chelsea Peretti]

So you didn't even think about it? Like you.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

We thought about for a second and then. But it required him to plead guilty to something he didn't do. Right. Required him to say, I'm guilty of, you know, assault with a semi automatic weapon, seven years suspended sentence. Right. Which means he's under the thumb for seven years, five years probation. So if he crossed against the red, they could take him back. Yeah, it's six months, which means three months. But it was a career ender for him.

[Chelsea Peretti]

He'll lose deals and stuff.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Oh, Gucci was gone. I mean, I've been dealing with Gucci for two years on this Gucci Puma, you know, all his shows. He couldn't travel out of the country with felony conviction. It would have. Is a life changer for him. And more importantly, he maintained his innocence from the minute I met him three years ago. Maintained his innocence. So it was, it was a, you know, it was really a quick decision. Yeah, People like this guy has onions doing that kind of stuff, Right. How do you do that? But I also felt very confident.

[Melissa Fumero]

I know that there's like discovery, so you get to see, like what the other side has. So that helps you, like, craft your defense and stuff like that. But at what point did you guys have everything? Like you knew everything up front or did. Were things added as things were going where? Like you ever got nervous, like they.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Try to trick you? They stole it. Oh, what about this? We forgot about this.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Pick the jury. They came with a ballistics report that had been done a year and a half ago. And they said, oh, we just found this. Now we. We missed it. So I'm like, are you kidding? Me, right? And like that kind of. Those games happen throughout the trial, but, you know, whatever. I'm used to that kind of stuff and didn't phase. I. Look, I knew we had a defense. My defense was to eviscerate this asap, rally this, this absolute pathological liar. And I eviscerate him in a way that, you know, I told this jury, I said, you guys had a front row seat to history because you just witnessed the worst witness in the history of American jurisprudence.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Jesus.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

I mean, he imploded, like. And by the way, you know, I'm considered, you know, top cross examiner. Anyone could have done, you know, you could have cross examined him. I mean, really, it was that the guy was. Was his own worst enemy.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Have you ever met a man that couldn't rat?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right? He couldn't even rat.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

That guy couldn't rat. Right. He cursed in a cor. Courtroom where the judge, a jury cursed to the jury. He told the jury. Yeah, I lied because I didn't want to answer this guy's question anymore. He's annoying me.

[Chelsea Peretti]

He said, you annoying?

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Yeah, sorry, I don't mean to annoy. You just want your $30 million and you want to just leave. You don't want to answer questions like, like he sued for $30 million with knuckle scrapes. This guy's a clown. And. And he's a liar. He's admitted liar. He's admitted perjurer. He lied at least to this jury 20 times and was caught committing perjury. I caught him in multiple. At one point during the summation, I said, oh, this next one's my favorite. This is a perjury miniseries because he lied. It was. It was like this series of lies about whether he shot a gun before November 6, 2021, the day of the incident.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Is it true that the police searched the area, didn't find no shell cases, but then all of a sudden, he.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Came with a stupid story. So he's claiming Rocky shot two pops him. And Rocky did shoot two from a prop, but okay, a star pistol and the whole story as to why he had that. But if you shot two shots from a real nine millimeter. Ten minutes. The seven cops came within ten minutes with searchlights. Those flashlights, they have body cam. Thank God they searched the exact spot where this incident happened. Seven cops, 20 minutes. That's 140 minutes of manpower. And they're looking. They find nothing. Nothing. No evidence of a shooting. No broken. There's a parking lot right next to it. No cars that would ding. Nothing he claims he comes back an hour, 45 minutes later, goes to the exact same spot the cops were searching, bends down and finds the two shell cases.

[Melissa Fumero]

I mean, so what happens now? Because I know you mentioned when you walked up the court, you want them to pursue him for perjury charges.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Yeah, I want them to. They should. I mean, district attorney's office was and should be embarrassed by this guy. I mean, he absolutely played them like a fiddle. We had a tape which he first, by the way, a tape of him and a mutual friend of Rocky and Raleigh's. And he said that there was a recording. And he's. And when he heard the beginning of the recording, he realized what that was. He was like, oh, that's fake. Get that away from me. That's fake. It's not my voice. It's. It's, it's AI. It's like, that's fake. It's AI. So then I had to call the poor guy who made the recording in. Wally. Wally say, yeah, that's from Paris. He was in Paris, this poor guy. So that's my voice. That's really his voice. He said this stuff. I know nothing about this case. But yes, I'm here to authenticate a tape. And on the tape, what, what Relly's saying is if he gives me 30 million, I'll disappear to an island and they'll never find me. The DA can never find me and they can't prosecute their case. You know, it's like, you know, and this is his example, not mine, it's like, you know, when you, when you smack you and she files charges against you, if she doesn't show up, the case is way weaker than.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what he said on Stan.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

So that's his, that's like where his mind goes to. But his thought was, I'm gonna disappear to an island. D.A. will never find me. So I stood behind the two district attorneys. I was like, so they'll never find him like this. And they're like sleeking down their chairs. I'm like, he tried to sell his criminal case for $30 million. That's called extortion. So he should be prosecuted for extortion. He admitted perjury. He was caught other times committing perjury when he didn't admit it. This guy's a one man crime spree on the witness stand alone.

[Melissa Fumero]

What about this civil suit that Raleigh filed when everything first started moving? It was. It's a defamation suit against Robbie.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

No, it's an assault against you. Yes.

[Melissa Fumero]

Yeah, there's Two of them. So do you guys. Are you now going to submit to, like, file for dismissal?

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Look, I'm. I'm. You know, that case is running its course. I. I'm dealing with it on my, you know, own. With Rocky. Rock has the full case. I mean, that thing is on life support now, obviously. I can't imagine this guy ever want to get back on a witness stand again. He can't withstand it. I mean, he was, again, a horrible witness. Even though people inside that courtroom, you know, who are there, who are part of this process. Process, who said, how do they proceed with this guy?

[Chelsea Peretti]

It makes no sense.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Yeah. And. And they did. But we had a prosecutor who was hell bent on winning, not doing justice. Hell bent on winning. When you have that, it's a dangerous thing because, you know, they have the weight of law enforcement behind them. And. And, you know, prosecutor's job, and I used to be one, is not solely to just secure a conviction to make sure you're doing right. And when a witness continually lies on a witness stand and purges himself and, you know, that they are, you know, sometimes okay to take a step back and reevaluate it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, we have more with Joe Tacopina when we come back. You know, he's the defense attorney for ASAP Rocky. He's represented celebrities like Donald J. Trump, Michael Jackson, a Rod, just to name a few. And we'll talk to him next. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the breakfast club. Lauren LaRosa filling in for Jess. And we're still kicking in with attorney Joe Tacopina. He's the defense attorney for ASAP Rocky. He also represented celebrities like Meek Mills, Swiss Beats, YG, Neo, Foxy Brown, Michael Jackson, Donald J. Trump, now Charlemagne, the celebrity helper Hurt.

[Chelsea Peretti]

And. And it's kind of a little layered question, but, like, you know, I asked the celebrity helper Hurt in cases like this because I know when you're a juror, they'll ask you questions about Rocky. But did they ask the jurors about Rihanna?

[John Cameron Mitchell]

You know, they were obsessed with. I loved it. I mean, they were just so obsessed with Rihanna. I didn't make her part of this case. She wasn't part of the case. The jury knows who Rihanna is. They know who she is compared, you know, in relationship Rocky. They saw her there every day. So I didn't need to inject her into the case to make it like we were playing on her. Her celebrity status, quite frankly, I don't think jurors were going to acquit him because, oh, here's Rihanna. So let's, you know, be damn with the evidence. Let's just acquit him. But they were so obsessed with focusing on Rihanna. Oh, Rihanna. Don't you know you have to treat everyone equally because Rihanna's here. I was like, keep going, man, just keep going. Keep reminding them that Rihanna's here and talk about her. Because if I did that, it would look like I was. I was pandering. I don't think that mattered at all. I honestly don't. I mean, I think they looked at the evidence. I mean, look, if Raleigh turned out to be a great witness and I couldn't destroy him like I did, I don't think the jury would care.

[Melissa Fumero]

Everyone was sitting there the first couple days though, of the trial, of it, she wasn't there. But then she came that Wednesday. I believe it was that Wednesday, right?

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Yeah.

[Melissa Fumero]

Why did, why wasn't she there those first couple of days?

[John Cameron Mitchell]

The kids were in New York with her because the LA fires are still going.

[Melissa Fumero]

Okay.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

And they're very protective. And she's a mother, Henry. You know, she's really protective of those boys. And the air quality was really bad that first week of that trial. And my eyes were like. We walk out of court. I was staying downtown LA from. So I had a two block walk to my hotel and it was, it was pretty bad. You felt something, you smelled something. So I think it was an air quality issue. And she kept the boys away. And she doesn't go anywhere, those kids. So she wasn't gonna leave them in New York and come here. So. But she, you know, we knew this was gonna be a long trial.

[Melissa Fumero]

Yeah.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

So she made it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was gonna ask, you know, when you take a case, do you have to believe the person?

[John Cameron Mitchell]

I have to believe in the person.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Oh, okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Break that down.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Yep. So I don't prejudge anyone. I'm not the judge during execution. All right. I've represented people who have probably done what they've been accused of doing, but doesn't mean they're bad people and don't deserve representation. If we all had our worst 10 minutes of our lives captured on video or something like that, I don't think we'd all be happy. Right. If I love a person or think they're really good people and they just made them mistake, I could deal with that. I'm not going to suborn perjury. I'm not going to make up a story But I'll help them get through it. And that sometimes that means just mitigating the damage. Right. Sometimes. With Meek's case, for example. Right. Meek in the crime, he pled guilty to it. But this judge in Philly was obsessed with him and was. Had him under probation for over 10 years. No one ever. He was a kid, he was a teenager when his crime was committed. Ten years later, he's still on the probation. If he came to court with white socks, boom, two more years probation. She wanted him under his thumb. She wanted him to make a record about her. It's like there was an issue going on there. So it wasn't like we were saying Meek was innocent. Innocent. But he served his sentence and he was being abused by the system. And the district attorney came around and agreed with us. And eventually I got that dismissed. We resolved the case and that judge was. Was relocated to Civil Park.

[Chelsea Peretti]

He was a legend.

[Melissa Fumero]

Yeah. Did you. Did you know that the Free Meek Mill movement was going be as big as it was when you signed on to that? Because it got. It grew so insanely.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

That was crazy. No, because at first I didn't realize how big that was and how loved that guy was, especially in Philly. I mean, he's like Rocky in Philly. Right. And so I called Reverend Al, who I'm very close with, and. And the Reverend, I said, can you come to Philly with me and to visit him in jail and maybe, you know, make a stand here? This judge is really giving them once over. And, you know, I think I need your help on this one. And Reverend said to me one thing. Is he a good guy? Joe? Am I getting embarrassed or is he a good guy? No, no, Reverend, you will not get embarrassed here. It's worth it. He's a good guy. And more important, he's getting. He's getting run over by the system. And he has the wherewithal. He has a voice. You know, that means 99% of the people in that system in Philly don't have that voice, don't have the wherewithal. And again, trampled on. And it's true. They reformed that whole probation system in Philadelphia because of meat in our case. It put a spotlight on it, you know, so it was an important case for a lot of reasons. So I take on these cases that I believe in. I've turned down a lot of cases. A lot of cases that could be lucrative or even very high profile. Harvey Weinstein was one. He tried to hire me, and I wouldn't. Why not?

[Chelsea Peretti]

Why?

[John Cameron Mitchell]

I Told you. I think about having a bond with somebody.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Yeah.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Feeling like, you know, people have been charged some horrific things. But I liked. I could tell it was good inside of them or I just had a good connection with them.

[Chelsea Peretti]

You didn't feel that with him?

[John Cameron Mitchell]

No, no. Did not really. Did not feel that with him.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Real quick because that's interesting. You represented Donald Trump in the Stormy Daniels case. Was there ever even a chance of you winning that? And the reason I asked that is because it was politicized. You know what I mean? It was politicized. It was all over the media. Everybody knew it was a target on Trump. Like they wanted to nail it.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

No doubt. That was not a case that would have been brought up for anyone. And I mean that whether, whatever your opinions are of Trump, I'm talking about the defendant. That case would never have been brought if it were not him. It was a case of first impression. It wouldn't think about it. It was a settlement of a personal matter. Right. An alleged affair. Consensual. Nothing like. But, you know, she was basically trying to get money from him to keep it quiet. He paid her. Whether it happened, didn't happen to relevant. He paid her some money, end of story. He didn't take a tax deduction on it. He didn't file it in his campaign thing. I mean, he paid personal money. Somehow they try to make that into a false filing in his own records. So because he put payment, legal fees, whatever, in his internal records, district attorney charged him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

When you take a step back. Right. And I'm sure people have asked you a million and one times, and you look at, for example, this Diddy case.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Would you do a lot of things different than his attorneys actually doing? Because it seems like they're already losing, and it just, it doesn't make sense. What would you do different?

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Well, I wouldn't go out in the press and make pronouncements that are later disproved quickly because you tend to lose credibility. I mean, there's this whole thing, like the stupid baby oil thing. Right. Who cares, first of all, how many miles of baby ocean he had his house. Right. But that became like this battle line. And they went out and said, oh, you know, he just bought them in bulk at Costco right down the block from his house. And that's. That's why he has it so big. No big deal. But baby, first of all, it's a thousand pounds. No one buys a thousand bottles.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

In bulk. But that was what he said, of course, that. Then Costco, then Comes out with a statement. No, we've never sold baby lotion in our life.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Jesus.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

We don't. Not one Costco store ever sold baby lotion. So boom. Now it looks like somebody's lying. You don't need that kind of stuff.

[Melissa Fumero]

Or the Cassie video too. And they came out strong before the video dropped.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That was before he's charged.

[Melissa Fumero]

Yeah.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Now look, here's the thing with the Cassie video. That's horrible. Cringe worthy, right? You don't do that. You don't put your hand on a woman. I don't care what the story is. Just I worked anyway, not how I grew up. Right. What does that have to do with these non consensual freak off things? What did that part, what did that video have to do with that though? And, and I would say, well. And that's the one count of the trafficking. She's the one person in the trafficking count. Like, what does that video have to do? Okay, maybe you should be charged with domestic violence in state court. But what does that have to do with a non consensual freak off where people are being alleged to have non consensual sex because they're drugged up and they're being gang ed or whatever. I don't see why that video was so of course that video has been played and showed and people think like, oh, he's guilty, but he's guilty of what? Assault of a woman who was his girlfriend. That doesn't make him guilty of everything else. Now, I don't know enough about the case. I was asked to take a look at the case as another case. I said I would not be interested.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Really.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

I just wouldn't be. No.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Same reason.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Connection is, it's different a little bit. I represent Roc Nation, a lot of people in rock. I'm very close with Jay and Desiree Perez, who's most amazing. Like, love him. Bomb of a boss. Love, amazing. You know, Jay Brown, all those people are just like, they really are special, special people. And they, you know, that's sort of family to me. And you know, I don't think they.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They're sort of Seattle, I don't think.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Yeah. With P did I just want to.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Throw that out there because, you know, remember everybody was saying when Jay said they weren't friends, everybody was like, they were in pictures together all the time.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Okay. Everyone wants a picture of Pete.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[John Cameron Mitchell]

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[Chelsea Peretti]

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[John Cameron Mitchell]

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[Stephanie Beatriz]

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[Melissa Fumero]

Remember when we were in that scene where you guys were just supposed to.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Hug and I was standing there?

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Yeah.

[Melissa Fumero]

I was like, can I also hug them?

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[John Cameron Mitchell]

You felt safe enough to throw out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

A bad idea, right?

[John Cameron Mitchell]

I mean, that is the key because you're definitely not throwing out good ideas all the.

[Melissa Fumero]

I mean, that's just not how it works.

[Stephanie Beatriz]

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[Morgan]

Have you ever looked into the night sky and wondered who or what was.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Flying around up there?

[Morgan]

We've seen planes, helicopters, hot air balloons and birds. But what if there's something else, something much more ominous that appears under the COVID of night? Silent, unseen, watching.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

They may be right above your car.

[Morgan]

Late one night as you cruise down the road, or look like mysterious lights hovering above your home.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Drones.

[Morgan]

Or are they?

[Chelsea Peretti]

We used the word drone because it was comfortable to other people.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

One minute was there and one minute it wasn't. Oh, that is beyond creepy. Do you feel like this drone was targeting you specifically? Yes, absolutely.

[Morgan]

Listen to Obscurum Invasion of the Drones on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Do you remember what you said the first night I came over here?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Ow. Go slower.

[Morgan]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Morgan]

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[John Cameron Mitchell]

At one time or another, I went to a party. But when things got real years and.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Years ago, it didn't see how to act. All right, we have more with defensive attorney Joe Tacopino when we come back. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the breakfast club. Lauren LaRosa filling in for Jess. And we're still kicking it with defense attorney Joe Takapina. He's the attorney for ASAP Rocky. He represented celebrities like Donald J. Trump, Michael Michael Jackson, A Rod, Meek Mill, just to name a few. So we were asking you about Diddy earlier. Do you think he should have got a bail and do you think he didn't get a bail because he should.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Have got a bail?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That I break that down because I said the same thing. People thought I was crazy.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

No, no, no. What? What he was willing. First of all, it was another mistake I thought they made saying, oh, he'll have a ankle bracelet and stay in his mansion in Miami and monitor who comes in and case in New York. Staying at a resort in Miami with a pool, it's not exactly really something I would offer up to a court. What I would have said, remember that guy dks, the French guy who was charged here with the of a maiden hotel. I forget his name. Dominic Strauss Kahn. His bail. He got bail and the Reason he got bail was he said, I'll rent a place here in New York. I will stay inside. I'll have. I'll pay for security. I'll have a bracelet on. That's a concession. I think maybe if they had done that from the beginning, that may have been something that happened. You know, there's a presumption of innocence that we still have to not refuse. You know, people have forgotten that in this country a lot. He is innocent right now. P. Diddy is innocent. Whatever you think of him, whatever you think the, you know, the evidence would be, no one's seen a minute of testimony yet. He's presumed innocent until and unless the prosecution proves that case beyond a reasonable doubt. They may do it one day, but not today. And keep someone in jail for a year awaiting trial. They have to either be a flight risk or a danger community, or they've done something so horrific like a murder. Right. Where, you know, bail is not necessarily common. This is a. A case of having parties that got out of hand, and there's allegations of, you know, sexual misconduct.

[Melissa Fumero]

So for Diddy, would you have advised him if you were. If you were his attorney? When Cassie first reached out to just. She was, my God, just paid the money.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Listen to me. That was a legal train wreck, what happened with Diddy, because this all could have been avoided. He had that case where. With Cassie. Right. And it was all about a civil case. There was no prosecutors involved, no FBI, nothing. They wanted a settlement. And, you know, these lawyers said, you know, no, they were closed. No, but no. And they said, well, we're gonna file a lawsuit if you don't give us a settlement. And like, you know, go ahead, then. Bad, bad move. But it was an avalanche that came around him. And only reason it happened is because they didn't sell that case civilly. Because if that Cassie case was settled and went away, I would have heard anything. Nothing. There were no other people coming after Diddy until that thing was filed.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

But if. So if you're going to settle, you settle before they filed the lawsuit. That's what you're settling for, to prevent that public damage. Right. But you don't let them file it and then settle a day later. That's the worst of all worlds, because then it's. It's an admission. And then bam.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Yeah. You worked on the Michael Jackson case. Is it true that Johnny Cochran told Michael Jackson once, don't settle with anybody because when you settle, you become a piggy bank?

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Yep.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Do you feel that way for all cases?

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Not for all cases. I think each case is different. Right. You know, sometimes a settlement is a good thing. Not because you did it or because you won admission. But take Diddy as an example. Sometimes a settlement will save more money than you could ever imagine later. And more heartache.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Well, he actually did it. I'm talking about people who. Because I've seen cases where people would settle just because they don't want the bad press and they don't want to end up spending a whole bunch of money in court for the next four or five years.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

And I've represented some very, very famous people without the case ever become public that have settled because it's not worth it. People do settle all the time. What's called a nuisance settlement, just to make sure that they don't wind up on the front page of New York Post tmz. And, you know, on the breakfast level.

[Melissa Fumero]

I just saw just now, that is at. Rocky was named the first ever creative director of Ray Band. Yeah, I remember after the case happened, you talked about telling Gucci to hold off on the Gucci Guilty, which is an amazing scent, by the way. But for me, when I heard you talk about that, and I'm seeing this now, I think about, even though he was proven innocent, were there people who walked away, like, in the midst of this? No. Everybody.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

So I was dealing with all of them. I mean, I was like, on conference call of Comfort, Gucci, Puma, all these different brands, who worked with Rocky, who wanted to know what was going on, giving them updates. And I would tell them, we're gonna win, we're gonna win, we're gonna win. But you gotta wait. Gucci Guilty was my biggest heart attack because of all things, to be called the cologne Gucci Guilty. And they wanted to roll it out before Valentine's Day. And I'm like, that would have been. So middle of the trial, I'm gonna be summing up on Valentine's Day. Can you do me a favor and just wait another week? They're like, what? It's Valentine's Day. I'm like, I don't get that. Called Gucci not guilty. How about that? Put a little knot in there and then let it roll. But you can't call Gucci Guilty. So what they did was we compromised. They put the ad out with Rocky in it, holding the bottle. Cologne. And there was no Gucci Guilty. It was just the cologne and Rocky. But if you looked at the bottle to get real close, it would say Gucci Guilty on the bottle. But they didn't Put those big letters now. There's all the big letters now. I don't care. Right, guys? So that was nuts.

[Chelsea Peretti]

One of my favorite movies, Devil's Advocate, Keanu Reeves, you know, Al Pacino. And, you know, in that movie, Keanu Reeves played the character named Kevin. And he's representing somebody, but in the midst of representing him, he realizes, oh, guilty. Remember, dudes, have you ever been in a situation like that? Like, in the midst of it, you like, wait a minute, I think this mother actually did it.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Yeah, I mean, yeah, it wasn't this case. Look, I've tried 120 jury trials, and so. And again, a chunk of those was the prosecutor. But there's been times where, you know, I believed in it since then. I saw some evidence halfway through, I was like, but, you know, at that point, you're just fighting all. Yeah. All you can do at that point is if they don't want to take a plea, you could just challenge the evidence, which is constitutionally what you have to do. Right. Someone could be guilty, but also be entitled to a not guilty verdict. And that sounds weird to people, but the reason that's true is because if the proof isn't there, if the prosecution has them met their burden to prove the case beyond a reasonable doubt, the person's entitled to a not guilty verdict. The community is entitled to a not guilty verdict. The system is entitled to not guilty verdict. You know, we're not a perfect system, but you. What you definitely don't want is we start cutting corners for people we know are guilty, because that's Richard Jewell. That's what starts happening. Oh, they're guilty. So we, you know, constitutional safeguards, and we can cheat a little bit here and there. That's when innocent people start getting clipped. And that, to me, is the worst thing that could ever happen. When I represent people who are purely innocent, that's the worst things for me, because then I'm dealing with, like, a pressure that is just enormous. And, you know, if you don't win that case, you feel it's like, burden for the rest of your life if.

[Chelsea Peretti]

You know somebody's guilty and still represent them and win. Isn't that a burden too, though?

[John Cameron Mitchell]

No, no, because that means the system worked. That means the system worked. It means the proof wasn't there. As long as I'm not supporting perjury, which I would never do, as long as I'm not making somebody say something that's not true. If someone's guilty and I think they're guilty, but they were Found not guilty, that means the proof wasn't there. And we need that person to be found not guilty because it keeps the system strong, keeps all of us safe. Again, lowering the standards for the ones we know are guilty, that's when innocent people start getting convicted. And that's bad. So I can live with that as long as the system was put to the test and I've done my job. It is what it is. The worst thing is if you represent someone who's truly, truly innocent, you know, they're truly innocent, and they're being either framed, set up, or for whatever reason, there's an agenda. You know, that's. That's the stuff that you lose sleep over, because God forbid they're convicted. I mean, just like, how do you deal with that, with you for the rest of your life? So, fortunately, I've not had that happen. I've represented a lot of innocent, truly innocent people. They've all been vindicated, thank God. Because if I had that happen, that would be something that would be very tough to go on with.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Well, we.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We definitely going to keep your number because if we see any cases that we don't understand, we might need a call to break some things down for us.

[Melissa Fumero]

He know I'm going call him. Time I called you before I got you on the phone.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right. Well, it's asap. Joe. Joe Tacopina, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Let's get right to just with the message.

[Lauren LaRosa]

News is real whether it's Jessica Robin.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Moore just don't do no lies.

[Melissa Fumero]

She don't spare nobody.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

On the Breakfast Club.

[Chelsea Peretti]

She's a coach of shoes with Lauren.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Lauren LaRosa.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Talk to me.

[Melissa Fumero]

Okay, y'all. So attorney Busby, who is the attorney that has all of those civil suits against Diddy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yep.

[Melissa Fumero]

He did have a civil suit in court that he amended to include Jay Z, but that was voluntarily dismissed a few weeks ago. Now this. Over the weekend, I broke a story. If you guys are following me anywhere, Instagram, Twitter, @lauren larosa. We break news and we are outside of the Breakfast Club. I broke a story that the committee of grievances with it, which is like an ethics committee, essentially, they have denied attorney Busby's right to practice within the Southern district of New York. Now, this is a huge problem because majority of the civil cases that he currently has on record against Diddy are in the Southern District of New York. So if he is not able to move forward with them, they would either. He would have to file to be able to come in on these cases pro hack vice and we'll talk about what that means, but it's a big issue. Now in response to this, when the news broke, attorney Busby posted something to his Instagram. And what he posted was that it was a appellate division from something from the Appellate Division of the Supreme Court of the State of New York. And this basically says that he does have a right to practice or he has admission in the New York State Court, but it's basically a jurisdiction thing. But he does not have permission. His permission to practice within the Southern district of New York State has been denied. Now like I mentioned, it's a big issue. And because of that, the judge who's on a lot of those civil cases they filed against Puff said to him, hey, I think that you should try to right now come in on these cases against Sean Combs as pro hack vice. And I told you guys that I would let you know what that meant. So pro hack vice is basically. So this is like on or four occasions. So basically it's like him saying, hey, I'm going to be involved in these cases just solely this one time. But there may be other local attorneys or whoever that have, you know, they're barred in these jurisdictions to be able to move forward with this just because. If not, it looks like, because basically the committee's, the committee who denied it, they were, they were basically not upset. But what they leaned on was the fact that in a lot of the other cases before the one that Jay Z was involved in came to light that there was no admission process, I guess properly done.

[Morgan]

Right.

[Melissa Fumero]

He had still continued to do whatever he was doing without submitting these things. And he submitted the one particularly for Jay Z's case on January 29th. So they're basically telling him like you're not following like these easy rules and protocols so you can't, you can't work here anymore. He's saying that this is not true and that, you know, he's crossed his T's and dotted his eyes so he's going to be fine moving forward.

[Chelsea Peretti]

So how is it not true? How can he come out and say it's it, it's not true?

[Melissa Fumero]

Well, what he specifically said is that he said he received many press increase over the weekend and he makes no effort to respond, but he rather make a one time general statement, let various entities use a statement as they see fit. Over the past week, he's got multiple inquiries from friends and colleagues asking why he's not barred or why he's Barred from practicing law in New York State and offering their assistance. He says that he wants to make it clear he's licensed to practice law in New York. He's in good standing with the state bar and have always been. Although he prefers Texas, he's proud of the legal. Legal work that he's doing in New York. And he called all of the reports clickbait. Now, I will say when I released the story, it was from an actual document, a court document that was from the Grievances Committee. And what I think he's going to try and argue here is what he's going to have to do to reverse this if he can. I don't even know if that's possible, is just show that there was some proof, I guess, of him submitted these admissions. But I think right now, in my opinion, I'm not an attorney. What he's doing is he's like. He's using, like, technical terms to try and talk around the fact. The fact is, is that this committee is saying you didn't follow rules within the Southern District of New York, and that's a problem. And, no, you cannot lead this. Like, we need you to come in.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So what happens to all the people that he has that suing Diddy? Do they have to go to another dev to find another attorney?

[Melissa Fumero]

No. So what will happen if the. From. From what I understand, if the pro hack vice thing does happen, he'll still be able to be involved, but he just. He'll be working with more local attorneys that are actually okay in that jurisdiction.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Got you.

[Melissa Fumero]

If not, I don't know what happens. I don't know how he litigates. And if that does happen, I have no idea what happens then.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Got you.

[Melissa Fumero]

But, yeah. So that back and forth is happening right now, but also too with Puff right now, over the weekend or this Monday, his team filed something that I thought was interesting. They filed. They're pushing back on the criminal side. They're saying that all of the evidence that the police, the prosecutor's office gathered in those raids need to be suppressed. Suppressed would mean that you can't use it in court. And they're basically saying that the reason why this stuff should be suppressed is that in order to obtain the search warrants that they did, they're accusing the prosecutor's office of using witnesses that they basically knew weren't credible. Witnesses that they knew basically didn't have, like, really good grounds to stand on. They talk about Cassie particularly, and saying that they now have proof that everything that the prosecutor's Office said about her involvement on these tapes or whatever was consensual. So to use that to make it look anything but consensual, to then get a search warrant is illegal. And they're saying that if it isn't suppressed, they want to have a hearing to just look into the prosecutor's conduct of how they got the search warrant to get this information. So they're like, yo, we need to take a. And I think they're doing this because this other case just got dismissed on the other side. So they're probably going to try and lean into that.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Well, what happened to racism? Wasn't racism. Wasn't it racism last week?

[Melissa Fumero]

Yeah, it's racism last week. This week it is. That they. They violated his. The way they got that they got the search warrant was incorrect. I mean, he's going. Listen, he's fighting for it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He's going to try every angle.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Yeah.

[Melissa Fumero]

And he just recently had an attorney who backed off the case and said that, you know, I don't want to be involved. It's not the lead attorney. It's not. Mark Agnifilio was a different guy, but he backed off and said he didn't want to be involved anymore. So I don't know what's happening.

[Chelsea Peretti]

What was that about? Did you. Did you check to see any sources about that? Lord, I wanted to know why did he back up off the case?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They said that he was arguing with, I guess the main attorney, like him and the main attorney didn't get along and they were seeing differently. Was that what happened? That's what I read.

[Melissa Fumero]

So they're saying that there's been a power struggle. His name is Anthony Rico. He says that there's been a power struggle going on between him and lead attorney Mark Agnifilio for several months. And it finally came to a head.

[Chelsea Peretti]

He said, somebody got to be the top and somebody got to be the bottom bit.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

There you go.

[Melissa Fumero]

Oh, my God.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right.

[Melissa Fumero]

That's how I go. You got to play your position. You got to know when to be when in the. Lynn, now what? I never heard that. I know you heard that one. Charlemagne.

[Chelsea Peretti]

I ain't never heard that in my life, but I've heard them all. But I ain't never heard. You got to know when to bend and when to Lyn. I like that, though.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You like that? Daddy, look at you. What's wrong with you?

[Melissa Fumero]

But yeah, coming. Coming back to it, though, I. I do want to say that this whole thing with attorney Busby will. We will be Watching, because I'm very interested to see what will happen in this. And again, I'm not an attorney, but from what it seems, the Southern District of New York is tied to him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right now because he has the, the majority of the accusers. Yeah.

[Melissa Fumero]

He has over. Over a hundred accusers civilly on the civil side. But again, remember, it's not looking good. He. The, the, the amended filing with Jay Z that also had. Yeah. For Busby, that also, you know, had something to do with Diddy as well. Was voluntarily dismissed, which is a big. Like, there's a question mark when that happens with no settlement. It's like, woo. What are you admitting to here? What's happening would be interesting, too, Lauren.

[Chelsea Peretti]

I would love to hear what the criminal attorneys think of the civil attorneys. And what I mean by that is when you're trying to fight a criminal case. Right. And you know, you're putting together a jury, a lot of times, not even a lot of time in this situation, it feels like the civil cases are louder than his actual criminal cases because they're, They're.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They're more descriptive.

[Melissa Fumero]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They're out of the box.

[Melissa Fumero]

We're learning more. We haven't heard nothing about the criminal side, remember? Like, we don't, we don't.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Yeah.

[Melissa Fumero]

We don't know who's on the tapes. We don't know what. Like, we, we still don't know a lot about that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But, you know, and surprisingly, most times people wait. Like, most attorneys will wait till after the criminal to start doing all the civil stuff, because they'll wait and see what, you know, what evidence they have or what they can use. It's weird that it seems like they're trying to get that money sooner than later, but.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

No.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Yes, that's true. But that's. I just wonder what criminal. What the criminal attorneys think of, what's. What's going on civilly and how is that affecting their criminal case.

[Melissa Fumero]

And I will say attorney Busby has been an attorney for some time. I'm not an attorney. And I keep saying that because when I tell y'all this is a very beginner mistake. So I am very interested to see what, like, how this plays out. This is a very beginner mistake. If he had just done this earlier, like, put in the admissions and everything he was supposed to do, we wouldn't even be here right now having this conversation. So I am extremely interested to see how this plays out. And it does not look good for those other civil suits if it doesn't play out well in his Favor.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

All right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, that is Jess with the mess with Lola Rosa. Charlemagne.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who you giving that donkey, too, man?

[Chelsea Peretti]

Well, this morning, we need the world's richest man, Elon Musk, to come to the front of the congregation. We'd like to have a word with him, please.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, we'll get to that. Next, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Wake up. Wake up. You're locked into the Breakfast Club.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Some donkey today's just saw themselves.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

I've been watching Charlamagne. I was ready for it. I never heard of a donkey of the day. What is it?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Say it again.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Charlamagne.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm a donkey.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Yes, you are.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Everything that Charlemagne is saying is true.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Yes. Donkey. Today for Monday, February 24, goes to the richest man in the world, Elon Musk. Now, I don't know who people voted for in 2024, okay? Some of us voted for Vice President Kamala Harris. Some people clearly voted for the 47th President of the United States of America, Donald J. Trump. Some people voted for the Green Party. Some people wrote in candidates. But I know one person folks didn't vote for, and that person is the richest man in the world, Elon Musk. But for some reason, Elon Musk, who is an immigrant from South Africa, for some reason, this man is in control of how the government's spends his money. Not only is he in control of how the government spends his money, he's the reason that over 12,000 federal workers have been fired as part of the Trump administration's broad effort to slash the federal workforce of 2.3 million people. How do you feel knowing that you are a federal worker who voted for Donald J. Trump and in his first 30 days, you are out of a job. Elections do indeed have consequences. And sadly, because of a choice you made, you have to live unemployed with those consequences. It's amazing to me how they are just playing with people's lives, though. You can't just cut people's jobs indiscriminately, okay? For example, they fired hundreds of employees from the National Nuclear Security Administration. These are people who oversee the stockpile of nuclear weapons, okay? And then they realize, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. We need these people, okay? They tried to rehire them because their dismissal could jeopardize national security, all right? Elon Musk. And the Trump administration also fired employees who worked on the bird flu response, okay? And they're trying to rehire them as well. It's a mess. And I personally don't understand how administration. How an administration can say they are America first, but they have a South African immigrant causing pain to so many Americans. That is not what they voted for. But this weekend on X, of course, Elon Musk suggested that workers could lose their jobs if they didn't respond to an email blast from the office of Personnel Management asking for a list of five things they did in the past week. I repeat, Elon Musk suggested that workers could lose their jobs if they didn't respond to an email blast from the Office of Personnel management asking for a list of five things they did in the past week. I can't make this kind of stuff up. Let's go to NBC News for the report, please.

[Melissa Fumero]

What did you do last week? That's the question Elon Musk and his department of government efficiency team insist all federal workers workers must answer in an email. Musk adding on his social media platform X that failure to respond will be taken as a resignation. Three sources told NBC news those emails were already being received by federal employees Saturday asking them to send five bullet points of what they accomplished last week, but noting employees should not include classified information. The deadline for applying set for Monday at 11:59pm.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Now listen, I have to give credit to Tulsi Gabbard and Cash Patel. Tulsi is the U. S. Director of national intelligence and Cash Patel is the new FBI director. And they joined a growing list of department heads who have told their employees to ignore the request from Elon Musk and doge because, yes, why is anyone listening to him? Okay, not just those two individuals, though. Secretary of state Marco Rubio, Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth and department of homeland security chief Kristi Noem. They've all told employees to disregard. Okay, disregard that email because at some point someone with some sense has to reject the oligarchy. All right? The billionaires don't run America. Working class people do. And if you are an official in the government, you work for working class people because trust and believe Americans will remember who caused in pain and there will be backlash at some point. Not to mention, I believe that someone needs to check Donald Trump's toupee to make sure there isn't one of Elon Musk neuralinks devices in there. Okay? Something isn't right. All right? Elon has some sort of mind control over Donald Trump. And every time Donald Trump is in a press briefing, one simple question should come up. And that question is, who is the real president of the United States of America? Every time he's in a press briefing, when one of y'all get an opportunity to answer the ask. Ask a question. Y'all should ask that every single time because we know who it is on paper. But who's really calling the shots? Elon and Trump are giving record label owner, artist vibes, okay? Watching Elon, you know, stand next to Trump is like watching Birdman stand next to Wayne back in the day. It's like watching Diddy stand next to Big back in the day. It's like watching Yo Gotti and Gorilla. Now, no matter how hot the artist status is, you can clearly see who's in charge. Now here's the reason. Elon Musk absolutely deserves this. He haw okay, this man said on yesterday that he was just eager to see who had a pulse and two working neurons. Amid the claims that some government employees are barely working or checking their emails, can you imagine if you worked in government and you are in charge of things that could put this country's national security at risk? You are in charge and of containing diseases that could kill millions of people and you have an unelected immigrant from another country playing with you on a weekend. We have to start putting some things in perspective. And one thing we need to put in perspective is we are post America, okay? We are post Constitution. This isn't about Republican or Democrat. This is about democracy and no democracy. And I don't know what the political solution is to this problem because we aren't dealing with the democracy that we once knew. And until we the people identify and realize what game is actually being played at our expense, we will continue to lose. Please give the oligarch in chief, Elon Musk, the biggest hee haw.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, well, thank you for that donkey today.

[Melissa Fumero]

That's so sad.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, well, let's open up the phone lines. 800-585-1051. This will probably sit with Charlemagne. Well, because we're talking a little bit of ugly. Now. This conversation comes from a Glorilla lyric. So we're asking 800-585-1051. Ladies, do you like your men with a little bit of ugly?

[Chelsea Peretti]

You just heard Glorilla say she do. You know, first of all, beauty is in the eye to behold. To always remember that beauty is subjective. That's number one. There's nothing wrong with being medium ugly, okay? I've been medium ugly my whole life and this worked very well for me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, let's open up the phone lines. 800-585-1051. Do you like your man with a little bit of ugly?

[Melissa Fumero]

Love a medium ugly A little smugly.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We like smoking.

[Melissa Fumero]

You're not medium ugly, though.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

You.

[Chelsea Peretti]

You like.

[Melissa Fumero]

Well done ugly.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Jesus.

[Melissa Fumero]

All right, I just want you to know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let's take your phone calls.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Your mama don't even believe that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nope.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Tell the truth. Go ahead and tell the truth. Tell the truth when we come back. What's your mama say?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

800 it.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Tell them about your mom.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

5851051. Don't say nothing. We'll do it when we come back. All right. Do you like your men with a little bit of ugly? We'll take your calls when we come back. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Call in right now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Add your opinion to the Breakfast Club topic.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Break it down. 800-585-1051.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The Breakfast Club.

[Chelsea Peretti]

It's topic time.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Call 800-585-1051 to join into the discussion.

[Chelsea Peretti]

With the Breakfast Club.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne the guy. We are the breakfast club. Lauren LaRosa, filling in for Jess. Now, if you're just joining us, we're talking about this Glorilla line, all right? Glorilla said this. This line, and it was trending all weekend. So we're asking 800-588-51051. Ladies, do you like your man with a little bit of ugly Now, Lauren?

[Melissa Fumero]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You said yes?

[Melissa Fumero]

Yeah, I do. They. They adore you. I told y'all that before. They adore you a different way. You know what I'm saying? Because it's like they still have that PTSD of being, like, their whole ugly self, and then, like, they kind of got a little cute, so they get a little play now, so they know how to maneuver, but they. They adore you because they just. They happy to be there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Now, right before break, Charlemagne was talking that your. Your mother said that he was handsome.

[Melissa Fumero]

My mom said he was smart. Okay, so that says a lot. She complimented your brains, not your beauty.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Now, who in your family said.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Your mom actually said I was smart and handsome?

[Melissa Fumero]

First of all, my mom smokes a lot of marijuana.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, hold on. But who in your family says Charlemagne was.

[Melissa Fumero]

My grandmother thinks that Charlemagne is the.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

How.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How old is.

[Melissa Fumero]

My grandmother is eight. She'll be 87 this year.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay. Does she drive by herself?

[Melissa Fumero]

Yeah. Oh, no, my grandma is. Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Does she wear glasses?

[Melissa Fumero]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Does she have glasses on when she sees charlamagne?

[Melissa Fumero]

You know what? She might have had them off.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

See? Exactly.

[Chelsea Peretti]

I'm fully aware that, you know, I am 90s Rom com. Fine. So being that I am 90s Rom com. Fine. I represent for all the ball head, you know, melanated brothers who were in all those movies in the 90s and that there's a certain generation that appreciates that level of handsome. See, Lauren, your generation don't use words like handsome no more.

[Melissa Fumero]

Nope. Y'all say fine S word.

[Chelsea Peretti]

You know what I'm saying?

[Melissa Fumero]

Like y'all see my fine s. Handsome.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Handsome is like the. The finest of cognacs. Like the. The. The most. The most vintage. The most vintage of cars. Like when you say something is handsome, that's a different level of beauty. And I represent for all the handsome brothers out there, the 90s Rom com. Fine brothers. Okay? And I want to say something else. Some of y'all women media ugly too, but you don't know it. Okay? But you know, actually you do know it. You know it when you go home and you take off that wig. You know it when you go home and you take off that makeup. You know it when you wake up in the morning.

[Melissa Fumero]

I was fresh face on Friday.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Are you shooting at these women this morning?

[Melissa Fumero]

Because. Because we know. I think he's trying to be funny.

[Chelsea Peretti]

I'm not talking about you, Lauren.

[Melissa Fumero]

Oh, I know you're not.

[Chelsea Peretti]

I'm just saying that a lot of women are medium ugly underneath it all, okay?

[John Cameron Mitchell]

And.

[Chelsea Peretti]

And some of you guys is. Is more than medium ugly. When y'all get that Beijing out your.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Bit, watch your mouth. Let's go to the phone line. I don't use Beijing.

[Melissa Fumero]

By the way, he don't got no face on Zoom this morning. His ugly face ain't on Zoom.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He was two toned before. Hello? Who's this?

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Hi, Rachel.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, Rachel. Good morning.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Good morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Do you like your men with a little bit of ugly?

[Melissa Fumero]

I do.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

I love my men with a little bit of ugly.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Stephanie Beatriz]

The more better, the merrier Title of your podcast all your old Brooklyn nine Nine friends are appearing on your favorite podcast More Better. Don't miss Brooklyn Nine nine stars and show hosts Stephanie Beatriz and Melissa Fumero as they welcome their friends and former castmates back to laugh about old times and swap some stores. This week it's Gina Linetti herself, the talented Chelsea Peretti.

[Melissa Fumero]

Remember when we were in that scene where you guys were just supposed to.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Hug and I was standing there?

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I was like, can I also hug them then?

[Stephanie Beatriz]

Next week the Nine9 nonsense continues as the More Better Amigas sit down with Joe Latrulio AKA Detective Charles Boyle. There'll be more laughs, more conversation, more stories from the set, and more More Better. Don't miss a minute.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

You felt safe enough to throw out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

A bad idea, right?

[John Cameron Mitchell]

I mean, that is the key because you're definitely not throwing out good ideas all the time.

[Melissa Fumero]

I mean, that's just not how it works.

[Stephanie Beatriz]

Listen to More Better with Stephanie and Melissa on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Morgan]

Have you ever looked into the night sky and wondered who or what was.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Flying around up there?

[Morgan]

We've seen planes, helicopters, hot air balloons and birds. But what if there's something else, something much more ominous that appears under the COVID of night. Silent, unseen, Watching.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

They may be right above your car.

[Morgan]

Late one night as you cruise down the road, or look like mysterious lights hovering above your home.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Drones.

[Morgan]

Or are they?

[Chelsea Peretti]

We used the word drone because it was coming to other people.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

One minute was there and one minute it wasn't. Oh, that is beyond creepy. Do you feel like this drone was targeting you specifically? Yes, absolutely.

[Morgan]

Listen to Obscurum Invasion of the Drones on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Do you remember what you said the first night I came over here?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Ow. Go slower.

[Morgan]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

Now take a big whiff, my brah.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Listen.

[Morgan]

Listen to the hookup on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why is that?

[John Cameron Mitchell]

They treat you way better. They treat you better.

[Melissa Fumero]

I ain't gonna lie.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

And I learned that as I got older.

[Melissa Fumero]

And at the end of the day, looks will fade.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

When you get older, it's all about the person.

[Melissa Fumero]

But they treat you how they treat you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So you look for an ugly man.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

I love him. He ain't gotta be completely ugly.

[Melissa Fumero]

Yeah, like medium ugly, not fully ugly.

[Chelsea Peretti]

It's like, y'all gotta give me an example, man. What y'all call. Cause beauty's in the eye of the beholder. What's medium ugly?

[Melissa Fumero]

I think somebody that's medium ugly.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Yeah, like 45 ugly. Like.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like who? Who's in it? What's an example?

[Chelsea Peretti]

Give us an example.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Who's like, 45 ugly? I didn't think of nobody right now.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Because there ain't no such thing.

[Melissa Fumero]

No, it is. I'm trying to tell you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Thank you.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Y'all just making up stuff.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, let's go to Taylor on line six. Taylor, good morning.

[Melissa Fumero]

Good morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Now, Taylor, do you like your man with a little bit of ugly?

[John Cameron Mitchell]

I love my man with a little bit of ugly.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why is that?

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Because, like, I just feel like men.

[Melissa Fumero]

Aren'T supposed to be pretty.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Like, what are you. Why are you so pretty? For what? I just feel like it's not manly to be pretty.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We born like that. We can't help ourselves.

[Melissa Fumero]

But skeptic is a gorgeous man. He's manly. You know what Skepta looks like? Yeah, he is gorgeous. And he's very manly.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Yeah, but he's just too pretty. I don't like pretty man.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Taylor, give me the example of a medium ugly man. Taylor. Taylor, give me an example, please.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Example of a medium ugly man.

[Melissa Fumero]

I mean, Duke Dennis is medium ugly for sure. I thought he wasn't that bad. I'm trying to think he's very handsome.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

But he's just not, like, pretty, you know, like, when you have like pretty features, really symmetrical, like there's no roughness or like, you know, masculinity in your face. It's just real feminine and pretty. And I don't like that. Let me think of another example of a medium ugly man. I feel like Gucci is medium ugly.

[Melissa Fumero]

Okay.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Yeah.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Okay.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Yeah. Like I feel like Pop Smoke was medium ugly.

[Chelsea Peretti]

God bless.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

God bless him. Rip that man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[Melissa Fumero]

Chris Brown is pretty. Too pretty for me.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

What's his name? Michael Ely is too pretty.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn. You wouldn't have got some insecurities.

[Chelsea Peretti]

I don't like this though, because she called it two dark skinned brothers, Gucci and Pop Smoke, medium ugly. But she called the two red bones pretty.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't like that brown skin.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Right.

[Chelsea Peretti]

He's.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He's a light brown. All right, well, we all like Chris.

[Melissa Fumero]

Brown and Michael Il fine Dave Beige.

[Chelsea Peretti]

I don't like that. But listen, I. Let's, let's switch it a little bit.

[Melissa Fumero]

NBA Young Boys.

[Chelsea Peretti]

I need to know who y'all think is medium ugly?

[Melissa Fumero]

NBA Young. I'm going through my music playlist because it's just easier to do like when you have something to look at. I would say NBA Young Boys, medium ugly. Who else? A boogie. Medium ugly.

[Chelsea Peretti]

This is crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This is real crazy. But 885.

[Chelsea Peretti]

I'm judging women like this all week long.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

800, 585, 105.

[Melissa Fumero]

Medium ugly.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Do you like your men with a little bit of ugly? And who do you call medium ugly? Let's discuss at the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

If y'all talking about it, you know we talking about it. It's topic time.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Call 800-585-1051 to join into the discussion with the Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Jess. Hilarious Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Now, if you're just joining us, we're talking about this Glorilla line right here. This is where it came from. We're asking 800-585-1051. Do you like it, man? With a little bit of upper ugly. And who is a little bit of ugly to you? What men? A little bit ugly to you. So we can have a, A scale so we can understand who you're talking about.

[Melissa Fumero]

Man, they just broke my heart in.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Here about what happened.

[Melissa Fumero]

They brought up 50. They said 50 is on the medium ugly list. But maybe that's why I think he's so attractive.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Say the person who said it. No, let 50 see their Instagram. 50 could be going at the Instagram all week.

[Chelsea Peretti]

No, he no, no, she. We're not too pregnant.

[Melissa Fumero]

He does live in that medium space. But it works for him, though, because he. I mean, the energy. Energy just gets what it needs to get.

[Chelsea Peretti]

First of all, beauty is subjective, okay? Like, y'all. Y'all out here calling people medium ugly. And some of these people that y'all call medium ugly folks think is fine. Okay?

[Melissa Fumero]

I know. And energy matters a lot more with men, like your aura and how you demand the room than your looks, in my opinion.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hello, who's this?

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Hi, this is Naji.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, Naji. Good morning. We're asking a couple of questions. Do you like your men with a little bit of ugly? And who is medium ugly to you?

[John Cameron Mitchell]

I do like my medium ugly. And what do you mean by who?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, if we want to. Like, how do you describe medium ugly? Like, describe who's medium ugly to you? Yeah, what celebrity?

[Chelsea Peretti]

What?

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Man, I feel like that guy. That move false. A guy. I feel like he's medium ugly.

[Chelsea Peretti]

I think he's too pretty. So he's ugly.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Well, medium ugly, if that means Jesus.

[Melissa Fumero]

I kind of understand what you mean. It's hard to describe. Like, he's like. It's like, okay, he fine. It's Mufasa, but, like, his features is a little. You got. They gotta settle in. They gotta settle in. He's, I think, a medium ugly.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Yeah, shut your. Shut your ass up. If you. He got ears. Have you ever known when to sit one out? Can you not read the room? You got two women describing a man's looks, and here you go. He got ears.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He got ears. He's a handsome brother. He just got ears. That's. I don't.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Hey, shut your ass up. Hello.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Hello.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who's this?

[Chelsea Peretti]

Can we talk about who's medium gay? Empty's medium gay.

[Melissa Fumero]

Y'all well done on that side, too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And you. Well done gay. Hello, K. What's the word?

[John Cameron Mitchell]

This is Katie from Mississippi.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, what's up, K from Mississippi? Who's medium ugly to you, man?

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Big Mac. Just text me. I told him ASAP Rocky.

[Melissa Fumero]

Have you ever seen ASAP Rocky in real life? Like, outside of photos and videos?

[John Cameron Mitchell]

I have not, but Rihanna can do a little better. But, you know, love is love.

[Melissa Fumero]

I would challenge you to see him in real life and then come back in real life asap. Photos and videos do him no justice. That man is gorgeous.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Did she say Big Mac? Just text her.

[Melissa Fumero]

I'm trying to tell you only because I used to be like, I don't really get the ASAP height. Like, he fly But I didn't really get it. And then I seen him in person. I was like, oh, like, he literally glistens.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Oh, okay. Then I heard that.

[Melissa Fumero]

I'm gonna take your. Sorry, Reed. I know that should mean I'm not. You know what I'm saying? I'm just. It's just. Just the topic.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[Melissa Fumero]

Go, Navy.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Once again, this is why I say it's all subjective. Because one, the woman thought. The woman on the phone thought he was medium ugly. Lauren thought he fine. That's what I'm saying.

[Melissa Fumero]

Oh, my God. ASAP is.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Well, some.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We just hung up on somebody, but they were saying that to them, all studs look medium ugly.

[Melissa Fumero]

Okay, I can see where they going.

[Chelsea Peretti]

What that got to do with anything? We talking about men, bro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Talk about men. Why would you bring it? You see what I'm saying? Thugs. Next time y'all see envy, I'll jump him, cuz he bought y'all in this for no goddamn reason. And he missing. Misidentified y'all.

[Melissa Fumero]

Oh, my God.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Oh, my God.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why would you.

[Melissa Fumero]

And why would you hang up on that person? I wanted to hear what they had to say.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What's the moral of the story? Come on, y'all.

[Chelsea Peretti]

The moral of the story is beauty is in the eye. Behold of the beholder. Like, it's all subjective. That's. That's the way I look at it.

[Melissa Fumero]

The moral of the story is some people. Well done, and they don't know it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, Charlamagne, we got just. With the mess coming up, I bet.

[Chelsea Peretti]

You would never show up without no wig on.

[Melissa Fumero]

And Meek Millbra, like, with just my braids under challenge.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Oh, you know what? I got a picture with you. Matter of fact, I'm gonna post that today since you want to be sporty.

[Melissa Fumero]

Are you gonna post it when I wrap my hair with the photo shoot and how gorgeous I look? You go right ahead. You don't have a picture of me with my Meek Mill braids.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I know you don't at all.

[Chelsea Peretti]

I got a picture of you I definitely got. All my life, I had to fight. Picture of you even got to worry about that.

[Melissa Fumero]

Ain't nothing medium ugly about me. I mean, I guess it depends on. Because when we posted this before, people was in my comments, like, she must not know she medium ugly. And I'm like, hey, you know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, so you heard this phrase before? Medium ugly.

[Melissa Fumero]

Not to me in real life. Don't play with me. Oh, okay. People in the comments just trying to be funny, but yes, we do have Jess with the Mess coming up. Irv Gotti's brother, Chris Gotti talked a bit more about Irv Gotti's passing and what actually was, you know, the reasoning behind his passing. So we're gonna talk about that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, we'll get to that. Next, the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy Jess. Hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy we are the Breakfast Club. Let's get to Jess with the Mess.

[Lauren LaRosa]

News is real whether Jessica Robin Moore.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Just don't do no lies.

[Morgan]

She don't.

[Melissa Fumero]

Spare nobody.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Breakfast Club.

[Chelsea Peretti]

She's the culture.

[Melissa Fumero]

I'm back, and I got the Mess.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Talk to me.

[Melissa Fumero]

Okay, so Irv Gotti's brother, Chris Gotti, he sat down on a platform called two Way, and on this platform, he talked with Dame Dash, who was also a special guest, and it was a special that they did on how to cope with stroke risk and diabetes. And they did it in memory of Irv Gotti. Let's take a listen to what Chris Gotti had to say about Irv Gotti's passing.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

When was your brother diagnosed with diabetes?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wow. So he's 54. I believe he was diagnosed when he was in his 40s. But Irv doesn't go to the doctor, so that's why he's so late being diagnosed. Right.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

And then when he finally did go.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Get a real physical and a checkup, he's like, you're diabetic. And he didn't believe it. Irv was type one, actually started with type two, developed into type one. And when we talk about this topic.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Why it's so dear.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Insensitive for me is I watched him suffer. Hit the last three years of his life. Sadly enough, he. He did go on his terms.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

He just didn't believe it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And he was like, I'm gonna go the way basically, I wanted. He. He ate a bunch of Chinese food while playing poker and had a massive.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Hemorrhagic stroke, which is bleeding on the brain.

[Melissa Fumero]

Yeah. So a hemorrhagic stroke, by definition, occurs when a blood vessel in the brain bursts and causes the bleeding, as he mentioned. And I know some people have questions about the difference, the difference between type one and type two, per what I see on Google, the difference is how the body processes the insulin and type 1 diabetes. The body's immune system attacks and destroys the cells in the pancreas and that produce the insulin, meaning it cannot make the insulin at all. While type 2 diabetes. Go ahead.

[Chelsea Peretti]

No, go ahead.

[Melissa Fumero]

While type 2 diet by type 2 diabetes. The body still produces the insulin, but the cells become resistant to its effects.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Yeah, I never heard of. What did he say? Type. Type 1 became 2. I never. I. I didn't know that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think he said.

[Melissa Fumero]

Yeah, I don't know. I do know some people were disputing that as well. I. Listen, I don't know that.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Yeah, I'm sure some doctors will correct. Correct him later. But, man, the biggest takeaway from what Chris Gotti said just now is that Irv Gotti didn't like to go to the doctor. We get on this radio all the time and have been getting on this radio for years telling y'all, take y'all ass to the doctor. I don't care what it is. I didn't had prostate exams, colonoscopies, endoscopies, every single, you know, cardiovascular test that you can think of. Salute to Dr. Pullman. Soaring Medical. Like, you gotta take your ass to the doctor. There's no way around it if you want to live.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, and you're absolutely right. That's why we talk about it so much. I know a lot of y'all say y'all share a lot, but the reason we share so much is because we want you guys to go to the doctor. We want you comfortable and thinking that you can go to the doctor and call and talk to your peoples about it. Because we need to. We need to make sure that we're checking up on each other, that we're going to our appointments, that we're checking our blood pressure, that we're making sure that we're checking our salts, our sugar levels, our heart, and everything in between. We gotta make sure. And if you don't, do. You don't want to do it for yourself, do it for your family, do it for your kids, do it for your wife, do it for whoever's in your family. You know what I mean?

[Melissa Fumero]

Yeah.

[Chelsea Peretti]

I gotta have so many people die over things that, you know, that could possibly have been prevented if they just simply had went to the doctor, you know. And I know we make jokes about the prostate exam, but yes, go get a prostate exam. Like, go get a colonoscopy. Like you. We put it like this. If you like to laugh, having stuff up your butt is always funny, but at least you got something up your butt for a good reason.

[Melissa Fumero]

Okay, okay, That's.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's. But somebody might like it up for that reason. Another reason. But anyway, go ahead, continue on.

[Melissa Fumero]

Yeah, well, shifting gears in places. Okay. Simon Gabadia. I always say his last name wrong. But that is the estranged husband of Portia Williams, who appeared on Real Housewives of Atlanta with her. We found out over the weekend that he was actually detained by ice. So he is currently being held in the Stewart Detention center in Lumpkin, Georgia.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Somebody called ICE on him.

[Melissa Fumero]

Something happened. Something happened, yeah. And came and got him. Now he's a Nigerian philanthropist. And again, you guys remember him because he was on the show with her. He was at once married to the girl Fallon. Then he got with Portia. That was a whole storyline. And him and Portia have recently decided not to be together anymore. And there were conversations around why she decided to, you know, go through a divorce with him. It was money conversations. And she said that she just found out that he wasn't exactly who he said he was in the beginning, and she didn't want any parts of it. And now we're seeing this, you know, this happen as well, too. Now, Portia spoke out not too long after this news hit and said, it's disheartening to see my estranged husband make choices that have led to this outcome. At this moment, my priority is moving forward with my family in the prayer hands. So.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Well, yeah, if you. If you look at it, you know, they said he. He migrated from Nigeria to the US in 82, but he overstayed his visa, so he was declared deportable in 19, what, 85. And then they said he was arrested in 87 for bank and credit card fraud. He is Nigerian. And then he was arrested two additional times. So he was deported to Nigeria in 1992, but then he came back a month later. Yeah, and then he applied for citizenship in 2016, but he was denied by the US government because his previous status was unlawfully granted. Granted.

[Melissa Fumero]

And from what the reports are, this actually happened while he was reapplying for trying to figure out all the mess that Charlamagne was just talking about with this edition.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So he was on television knowing he wasn't supposed to be here, trying to.

[Melissa Fumero]

Figure out maybe that's.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Wow.

[Melissa Fumero]

Yeah. It seems to me, playing in people's face.

[Chelsea Peretti]

I think Porsche are fine, though, man. So I can understand taking him to risk.

[Melissa Fumero]

She melt the ice. Like, what the.

[Chelsea Peretti]

I can understand the risk that was taken. I can understand it.

[Melissa Fumero]

He's a business owner here. He's making money, like, so maybe he thought that, you know, things would work out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But on the first time he wasn't with Portia on the show, the first time, he was with somebody else.

[Chelsea Peretti]

I don't know. Who was it? Who was that?

[Melissa Fumero]

One. She was. She was. It was crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That was his first wife, right?

[Melissa Fumero]

Yeah, but she was just like. She had a smaller storyline on the show, but they tried to make her and Portia seem like they was homegirls on the show. So then when Portia got with him, it was like, oh, my God, I thought that was your friend. And she had to come out and be like. Like, that was not my friend. We was just on the show together.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wow.

[Chelsea Peretti]

So what happens to his house? I just mean this in the most respectful way as a married man. You know, I can understand why he would take the risk of wearing matching pajamas with Portia all over Instagram and be all over the reality shows with her. I can understand why now he's sitting.

[Melissa Fumero]

In that detention center just reminiscing on it. Huh.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Well, that's all you got is your stories when you locked up. So that's a. That's a great story to have.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What happened to his house, though? His house is caused. Who gets there? Cause he's no longer here.

[Melissa Fumero]

He does have. He has children and I'm assuming other family here, so maybe they'll figure that out. I don't know specifically.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Don't got the house.

[Melissa Fumero]

I don't know her. I know she had one of the cars. They were going back and forth about one of the cars. I'm not for sure who has what in that. They haven't. The divorce hasn't finalized yet with them either. They're still going through the process of that. But I did reach out to ISO to try and get some more information on what's about to happen.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Yeah, you reached out to ice.

[Melissa Fumero]

You can reach out to them. They have a media department.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What number is that?

[Melissa Fumero]

It's an email.

[Chelsea Peretti]

That's. Man, give me the number. Laura, don't you give them that number. Somebody that might need to be invested, investigated, don't you know?

[Melissa Fumero]

But they had. They have departments in every state, and you can reach out, especially if you're a media outlet, to obtain information for clarity. And that's what I did, because I had a lot of questions like you guys did. And as you see, I can't answer them yet. So when I can, I'll be back with that.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Do they have a tip line, though?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what I know.

[Melissa Fumero]

All right, y'all. Dang.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, one time, one more, one more. Quick.

[Melissa Fumero]

Which should I go to? So much good stuff. Okay, so Wendy Williams. And you guys know that we've been keeping you up with Wendy Williams here at the Breakfast Club. Yesterday I broke an exclusive. I spoke to Wendy Williams and she says that she's back at square one, fighting for her life with next to nothing. So she's alleging that her guardian, Sabrina Mercy, has recently hired four high top notch attorneys to protect herself from Wendy Williams and also from Lifetime. So Wendy says this week she had to fire her current attorney. That was the black woman attorney that she was really excited about because this person wasn't appointed by the court. But she said that she had to fire her because things were not working out. And now she needs to send more legal team. So she's back at square one. She's saying that she might have to go through something called a linking hearing, which is something where they're able to see if she's capable of choosing her own lawyer. But the issue that she has with that is even if they allow her to choose her own attorney, what I'm told is that the attorney will still be from a list of attorneys that the court selects. And she doesn't want to do that. She wants to be able to choose her own attorney. She's very confused about why she has to do the Lincoln hearing. The link in here is something that they use, like when, you know, when kids are in court and it's a custody battle and they're like, you know, they want to figure out where the kid wants to be. They use that same type of interview that a judge does, but with the conservative, like the person who's in the conservatorship. So she doesn't understand why she has to do that. She feels like she's proven that she's more than capable enough to make these decisions. And. Yeah, so now she's, you know, she just wants you guys to know what's going on. So she wanted us to let you guys know that she's trying to figure it out all over again, attorney wise at this point.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, all right. Well, thank you for that. Just with the mess, Lauren.

[Melissa Fumero]

Thank you. You're welcome.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, when we come back, we got the People's Choice mix. Get your request in. Don't go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

You're checking out the Breakfast Club.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Lauren, Rosa filling in for Jess. And it's Black History Month. What we doing, man?

[Chelsea Peretti]

Listen, you know, every day during Black History Month, my guy, B. Dot, puts out an episode of I didn't know. Maybe you didn't either. On The Black Effect. IHeartRadio podcast network. And. And we're going to learn today about how Jasmine Evans got left off the kidney transplant list. Not because she wasn't qualified, but because someone decided to play doctor based on stereotypes. Let's discuss.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

See, Jasmine needed a kidney transplant, some critical for her survival. But instead of being placed on the list like any qualified patient, she was left off.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Why?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because of assumptions rooted in stereotypes about black women. Now we've been discussing medical apartheid all season and this is just another branch on that tree. The doctors didn't doubt her medical condition. They doubted her ability to comply with post transplant care. Let that sink in. Despite meeting the necessary criteria, they judged her based on who they thought she was, not who she actually is. Kids, they assume she lacks support or discipline. Assumptions tied to harmful narratives about our sisters. This is bigger than Jasmine, though. Black women are at the heart of our community. They're our mothers, our sisters, our daughters, our partners. Yet many times they're often disregarded, disrespected and dismissed in health care. Studies show they're less likely to receive proper pain management, less likely to be listened to, and more likely to face barriers to life saving treatments. Jasmine's story isn't an isolated case. It's a reflection of a system that undervalues black women's lives. But here's the thing. Jasmine didn't give up. She fought back. She raised her voice and exposed the bias that nearly robbed her of her future. After public pressure, she was finally placed on the kidney transplant list. But that fight shouldn't have been there. Necessary. Black women shouldn't have to battle every step of the way just to get what they deserve. So fellas, this is where we come in. Supporting black women isn't just about words. It's about action. It's about showing up for them and standing beside them and speaking up when they're being wronged. It's about recognizing that their fight is our fight too. We know how much black women do for us. We know how much black women mean to us. They hold us down, they. They lift us up. They fight for us when nobody else will. And Jasmine's story is a reminder that we need to do the same for them. Let's honor their strength by making sure that the systems that fail them are held accountable. Let's be the men who stand in the gap. Cause when black women thrive, you already know. Our entire community thrives. Jasmine's fight ain't over and neither is ours. So let's commit to making this world safer, fairer and more just for the black women we Love. Okay, bye. All right, well, happy Black History Month, man.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Thank you, B Dot. And make sure you subscribe to the. I didn't know. Maybe you didn't need the podcast on the Black Effect I Heart radio podcast network, available everywhere. You listen to podcasts.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, when we come back, we got the positive no end more so don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ and Envy Jess. Hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the breakfast club. Lauren LaRosa filling in for Jess. And we got a salute to Joe Tacopina. That is asap. Rocky's defense attorney. He also represented people like Donald J. Trump, Michael Jackson, a Rod, Meek Mill, just to name a few. He stopped through, check out the full interview. Very insightful. So speak to that.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Very informative conversation, man. I love talking to attorneys because I love just their thought process on things, you know, and it's interesting to hear somebody like Joe talk about the cases he didn't choose right to do, especially being that he's represented a lot of controversial cases.

[Melissa Fumero]

He don't sleep.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Absolutely. Salute to Joe.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Yeah. He needs a documentary based on his life too, by the way.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think so, too. I had a. Lauren, you got something?

[Melissa Fumero]

Yes. So in exactly two months, 27 days and 14 hours, we will be in a Dominican Republic. I'm hosting the hbcu Black getting your body done? No. Why do you keep asking me if I'm getting my body done as if there's time on my body? Are you trying to tell me?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm just saying that's the second time.

[Melissa Fumero]

That you brought that up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How you know I wasn't going to ask advice about me. What about if I wanted.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Together? Yes.

[Melissa Fumero]

You need to focus on them arms.

[Chelsea Peretti]

I don't understand why you keep. Why do you keep. You're right. You're absolutely right, Lauren. He been need to focus on his arms for years. But I don't understand why you're concerned about what that young lady does with her body. Her body, her choice.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Correct.

[Melissa Fumero]

First of all, not the way. Not now. You Mr. Your body, your choice. The way you be attacking every piece of hair on his body or anything.

[Chelsea Peretti]

It's a wig. It's not yours.

[Melissa Fumero]

Well, I'm gonna be in doctor Y'all. I'm not getting my body done. But we are going to have a good time. I'm there for the Memorial Day getaways. HBCU and black alumni weekend. It's six days, five nights, all inclusive. I will be doing parties. Day parties, night parties. We're gonna eat, we're gonna drink. We're gonna have a great time. It's always a good time when I'm there. So make sure y'all pop out. Get your tickets [e-mail] and tell them Lauren LaRosa sent you at checkout Out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, well, you got a positive note.

[Chelsea Peretti]

I do. And the positive note comes from one of my favorite follows on Instagram at the Healing Guide. You should follow Healing Guide on Instagram, but they posted Nothing kills you faster than your own mind. Don't stress over things that are out of your control. Your own thoughts and worries can harm you more than anything else. When you stress too much about things that you cannot change, it affects your mental and physical health. Overthinking and worrying make you feel anxious, tired, and even sick. Instead of focusing on things beyond your control, it's better to accept them and focus on what you can change. Letting go of unnecessary stress will help you stay happier and healthier. Y'all have a great day.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[John Cameron Mitchell]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[John Cameron Mitchell]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[John Cameron Mitchell]

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[Stephanie Beatriz]

Hey Brooklyn 9 9ers. It's a reunion. The ladies of the 99 are getting back together for a special episode of the podcast More Better hosts Stephanie Beatrice and Melissa Fumero. Welcome friend and former cast Chelsea Peretti.

[Melissa Fumero]

Remember when we were in that scene where you guys were just supposed to.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Hug and I was standing there?

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Oh yeah.

[Melissa Fumero]

I was like, can I also hug them?

[Stephanie Beatriz]

Listen to More Better with Stephanie and Melissa on America's number one podcast network, iHeart. Follow More Better and start listening on the free iHeartradio app today.

[Morgan]

Do you remember what you said the first night I came over here?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How? Go slower.

[Morgan]

From Blumhouse TV, iHeart podcasts and Ember 20 comes an all new fictional comedy podcast series. Join the flighty Damien Hirst as he unravels the mystery of his vanished boyfriend. I've been spending all my time looking for answers about what happened to Santi and what's the way to find a missing person? Sleep with everyone he knew? Obviously. Listen to the hookup on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This is John Cameron Mitchell and my new the new fiction podcast series Cancellation island stars Holly Hunter as Karen, a wellness influencer who launches a rehab for the recently canceled in the future, we will all be canceled for 15 minutes, but don't worry, we'll take you from broke to woke or your money back. Cancellation Island's revolutionary rehab therapies, like Bad Touch football, anti racism spirit in class, and mandatory Ayahuasca ceremonies are designed to force the council to confront their worst impulses. But everything starts to fall apart when people start disappearing. Karen, where have you brought us Cancellation island, where a second chance might just be your last. Listen to Cancellation island on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.