FULL SHOW: Wendy Williams’ Attorney Denies Dementia Reports, Tory Lanez’s Legal Team Argues “Another Black Person” Held the Gun + Joey Bada$$ Interview

Summary

The Breakfast Club – Episode Summary

Date: August 19, 2025
Hosts: DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God
Special Guest: Joey Bada$$

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Episode Overview

This lively installment of The Breakfast Club features hip hop artist and actor Joey Bada$$ as a featured guest, with coverage of major trending news stories: Wendy Williams' legal fight over conservatorship and dementia rumors; Tory Lanez's legal team's latest appeal based on DNA evidence; plus broader cultural debates and everyday hot topics. The crew mixes front-page news, in-depth interviews, and listener call-ins, bringing their signature blend of humor and real talk.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Front Page News: Global & Domestic Politics (03:33 – 09:10)

• Trump’s Ukraine Peace Talks:

  • Trump claims progress in mediating peace between Russia and Ukraine, suggesting he may broker a three-way meeting with Zelensky and Putin.
  • Hosts express skepticism, suggesting Trump’s motives include legacy-building or a Nobel Peace Prize.

  "Trump’s trying to get that Nobel Peace Prize, so he gotta act noble in peace." – Charlamagne (07:36)

• Epstein Files Distraction:

  • The crew notes the Epstein case has been sidelined in the media, allegedly due to Trump’s actions.
  • Quick commentary on Trump’s ongoing rhetoric around transgender athletes and US culture wars.

2. Listener Call-Ins (“Get It Off Your Chest”) (09:35 – 19:13)

• Relationships & Mental Health:

  • A caller shares his attempt to connect with a therapist through her journal—a situation the hosts playfully deconstruct.
  • Charla promotes his upcoming Mental Wealth Expo:

    "A lot of people be hooking up that weekend, by the way...just made that up." – Charlamagne (11:35)

• Trucking Industry Woes:

  • Callers describe the collapse of local trucking due to oversaturation and corporate competition.
  • The hosts inject humor by riffing on the phrase "take a load," but also note the lack of easy solutions.

3. Pop Culture & Legal News:

-- a. Wendy Williams Update (20:27 – 24:29)

• Attorney’s Response:
  • Lauren LaRosa reports Wendy Williams’ attorney, Joe Tacopina, is considering legal action over leaked medical records and denies the dementia diagnosis.
  • Audio of Wendy herself sounding frail:

    “My attorneys are highly upset... highly upset.” – Wendy Williams (21:34)

  • Mixed concern about Wendy’s health and the ongoing, seemingly endless conservatorship battle.
  • DJ Envy:

    "This really makes you think...make sure that somebody you trust can take care of you." (24:29)

-- b. Gladys Knight Allegations (24:47 – 27:18)

• Gladys Knight releases a statement denying allegations of abuse and declining health, sparked by her son’s legal filings.
• Discussions on how family members best support aging parents—sometimes, the perspective “keep her performing keeps her going,” but the line between advocacy and control is debated.

4. Politics & Society

-- a. Trump & Voting Rights (28:58 – 35:52)

• Trump pushes to eliminate mail-in ballots and further restrict voting, ostensibly for "election integrity," but hosts see deeper political games at play.
• Redistricting and rising National Guard presence in D.C. spark concerns over protest suppression—Morgan Wood provides on-the-ground perspective.

-- b. D.C. Tensions (36:27 – 39:41)

• D.C. Mayor Bowser disputes Trump’s crime clampdown and increased federal troop presence as unnecessary and anxiety-inducing.
• Discussion on the "don’t go to D.C." sentiment among Black and brown residents.

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Interview: Joey Bada$$ (40:19 – 63:06)

Topics Covered:

• Fatherhood & Maturity:

  • Now a father of two, Joey discusses how becoming a dad refined him:

    "I ain't got the bandwidth...for the bullsh*t no more." (40:48)

• Mental Health, Growth, and Therapy:

  • Joey lauded for seeking therapy and self-work at a young age—a rarity in hip hop.
  • Talks about therapy as essential, how it helps understand not just "what’s happening, but why."

    "Music gives me the outlet to talk about what is happening, but therapy...to understand why things are happening." (62:02)

• Music Business & Artistic Integrity:

  • Disappointment with his label’s delay of his new album, Lonely at the Top, but maintains focus on his artistic vision.
  • Charlamagne presses him about whether he feels truly supported by his label, exploring the tension between artistry and commerce.

    "I just want to put this music out, and that’s really what I’m looking forward to." – Joey Bada$$ (45:20)

• The Elusive Mainstream Hit:

  • Joey acknowledges calls for a “breakout radio record,” but prioritizes authentic expression over chasing hits.
  • Recalls disliking the commercial hit “Devastated," despite its success.

    "It kind of became more about artistic integrity for me." (51:57)

• Rap Beef & New York/Coast Rivalries:

  • The origins of his “Ruler’s Back” challenge toward West Coast MCs, operating in the “spirit of sport.”
  • Comments on generational shifts—he’s often between eras.

• Acting and Artistry:

  • Discusses how acting revitalized his sense of freedom in music, allowing him to treat music less like a job.

• Public vs. Private Life:

  • Balances fame, privacy, and protecting family in the social media age.
  • On his Hollywood success:

    "If the world got to catch up... inshallah." (70:13)

Notable Quotes:

• On the difference between therapy and music for mental wellness:

  "The music gives me the outlet to talk about what is happening, but therapy gives me the outlet to understand why things are happening."
  — Joey Bada$$ (62:02)

• On kids and fatherhood:

  "Having my son now...gives you that extra boost. We on a mission, and the mission is to complete it and get back home." (41:13)

• On navigating the industry and self-worth:

  "Where I’m at now—my life at 30 reflects that of a very mature man... you ain’t gonna really find me in the club." (53:51)

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Other Key Segments

5. Tory Lanez Appeal & Legal Arguments (71:10 – 75:40)

• Lanez’s lawyers claim a “1 in 1 million” chance of his DNA on the firearm, argue another Black person is more likely to have handled it.
• Hosts reflect on whether these appeals are genuinely new evidence or just legal wrangling post-conviction.

6. Pop Culture Debates & Humor

• Nas' Legacy & Generational Gaps:

  • Fabio Foreign’s comments (“Can’t name a Nas bar, but he’s still a legend”) fuel a debate on legacy, generational divides, and respect in hip hop.
  • The crew agrees that Nas is inarguable as one of rap’s “bars”—legacy cemented regardless of young rappers’ familiarity.

• The "Robe & Towel" School Run Discourse (88:02 – 105:46):

  • Viral video of a mom dropping her kids at school in a robe and a towel sparks listener calls and generational divides.
  • Jess Hilarious:

    "We should be presentable at all times... you’re embarrassing your kids." (88:24)

  • Charlamagne advocates caution before judging, suggesting we don’t know her circumstances.

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Memorable Moments & Notable Quotes

• Charlamagne, on the state of the music business:

  "What’s the point of a label delaying an album? It’s not like they're gonna work the records at radio...or even put the building behind you with promo." (43:59)

• Joey Bada$$, on artistry over chart success:

  "I just kind of valued [artistic integrity] a little bit more...I am looking for that sweet spot." (51:53)

• Wendy Williams, when asked about the dementia diagnosis:

  “No. And my attorneys are highly upset.” (21:31)

• Lauren LaRosa, on the Wendy Williams controversy:

  "It just doesn’t seem like they’re ever going to come to a resolve." (23:11)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Segment | Description | Timestamp (MM:SS) | |---------|-------------|------------------| | Joey Bada$$ Interview Start | Fatherhood, music, deadpan humor | 40:19 | | Mental Health & Therapy | Deep dive with Joey | 62:02 | | Wendy Williams Legal Update | Latest with Lauren | 20:27 | | Tory Lanez Appeal | DNA evidence debate | 71:10 | | Nas Legacy Debate | Generational perspectives | 107:11 | | Viral "Robe & Towel" Mom | Callers weigh in | 88:02 | | Gladys Knight Son Dispute | Family and health | 24:47 | | Trump’s Voting Policy Push | Mail-in ballots, D.C. National Guard | 28:58 |

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Tone & Language

• Language: Authentic, conversational, and often irreverent—balancing humor and empathy, especially on sensitive topics.
• Tone: The Breakfast Club’s signature: direct, candid, but with room for nuance, especially regarding Black mental health, cultural evolution, and intergenerational debates in hip hop.

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Summary Value for Non-Listeners

This episode weaves together big-picture news, cultural debates, and the personal growth of hip hop icon Joey Bada$$, making it a must-listen for fans of music, Black culture, and modern social issues. Listeners are brought up to speed on pop culture controversies, the evolving legal sagas of famous figures, and get perspectives on fatherhood, therapy, and artistic struggle straight from the artists themselves.

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For full interviews, refer to individual timestamps for in-depth segments.

Transcript

[Morgan Wood]

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[Joey Badass]

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[Joey Badass]

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[Carlos Miller]

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[DJ Envy]

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[Joey Badass]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[DJ Envy]

Jess will be here in a second. What up, Charlemagne?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Peace to the planet. It's Tuesday. How y' all feel out there? I feel blessed, black and highly favored. Happy to be here another day to serve our beautiful listeners. Good morning. How y' all feeling, man?

[DJ Envy]

Good morning. How you feeling?

[Joey Badass]

What's up?

[DJ Envy]

Well, how was your day yesterday?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yesterday was great. What did I do yesterday? I don't remember, man. When I wake up in the morning, Yesterday was yesterday.

[DJ Envy]

Yesterday was yesterday.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know? Onward. Today is Tuesday. We have a very special guest today. His name is Joey Badass.

[Joey Badass]

That's right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Now you know Joey Badass. He's blew up in Hollywood. He was in that movie that won an Oscar a few years ago. Two distant strangers. He's Mr. Radio on USA Unique and raising Canaan.

[DJ Envy]

Yep.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What else? He was. He was Inspector Decking on the Hulu show, on the Wu Tang Show. But he's got a new album coming out. Let's not forget Joey Badass as a rapper.

[DJ Envy]

And he could rap his ass off.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Lonely at the Top he went. He had a 20v one going on earlier this year. Him versus the whole West Coast. A lot of west coast artists like Ray Vaughan and Reason and a bunch of others. But he'll be here to talk about his new album, Lonely at the Top, which will be out August 29th. He'll be here this morning.

[DJ Envy]

That's right. We'll be kicking it with Joey Badass.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I like Joey too, man. Cause Joey is a brother who learned early, which so many of us learned late. And that is you have to take care of your mental health. You have to take care of your emotional well being. I like the fact that the brother is young and he does the work on himself. From therapy to meditation, different healing practices. So he'll be here to talk about all that this morning.

[DJ Envy]

It's a good brother. Good brother. We gonna be kicking Joey Badass in a little bit. And then we got front page news coming up next.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We don't talk about the good brothers enough. You know, we live in an era where it's like everybody always wants to, you know, highlight the digital D heads.

[DJ Envy]

Yes, that's true.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The ones we say are doing it wrong.

[DJ Envy]

That's right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But the ones that are doing it right, we don't amplify enough. So glad to see Joey Badass here this morning.

[DJ Envy]

That's right. We gonna be kicking it with Joey Badass. We got front page news. What's up, Morgan.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, y'. All.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Hey.

[Morgan Wood]

How y' all feeling on a Tuesday?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Blessed, black and highly favored.

[Joey Badass]

Good.

[Morgan Wood]

Auburn said, don't forget about us. You know, we knew him too.

[Lauren LaRosa]

We knew him first.

[Morgan Wood]

No, I'm not gonna get too much into that. All right, let's get into what's first on front page. President Trump called yesterday a very successful day so far or a very successful day. While trying to broker a deal to end the Ukraine Russia war. Trump first had a one on one meeting with Ukraine's President Zelensky, who agreed that Trump that they had a very good conversation. And so the two also met with European allies and the head of NATO. The President said he's already spoken to Russia's Vladimir Putin by phone and then he would call him again following that meeting. Now, Trump and Zelensky said any deal that would involve some part of American security for Ukraine to head off any more Russian aggression. Trump said that he believes there might be a three way meeting soon involving himself, Zelensky and Putin. Let's take a listen to President Trump.

[Joey Badass]

Important discussions as we work to end.

[DJ Envy]

The killing and stop the war in Ukraine.

[Joey Badass]

We're all working for the same goal, very simple goal.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We want to stop the killing, get this settled. Sure.

[Joey Badass]

We're going to have a solid meeting.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Good meeting, maybe a great meeting, and.

[Joey Badass]

We'Re going to try and work out a try that after that and see if we can get it finished. Put this to sleep because this is not since the Second World War has there been anything like this.

[Morgan Wood]

He said the meeting was a very good first step and European leaders suggested increasing pressure on Russia for a ceasefire. And Trump responded by saying a ceasefire may not be needed to bring an end to the war between Russia and Ukraine. Just citing that he's had peace deals on the table with other countries so that a ceasefire didn't necessarily happen. But meanwhile, Ukraine. Zelensky had positive things to say about the meeting as well. He thanked President Trump and European leaders for being in attendance. Let's take a listen to Ukraine's President Zelensky.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think that we had constructive, specific meeting and I'm very thankful to all the leaders who are here and you help a lot. And so we are happy that we.

[Joey Badass]

Have such big unity today.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I found it very interesting that all those European allies came to the meeting to ensure something productive was done. Is that normal for all those European leaders to come to a meeting like that between, you know, two countries?

[Morgan Wood]

I think, I think that if it's, if the situation has escalated in the way that it has for sure. But to your point, I have not seen that recently, you know, fairly recently, that it, that there was such a need of that magnitude for everyone to come to the White House at that, I mean, seen them talk at summits and things of that nature, but for everyone to come to the White House and have these meetings. They had the meeting in front of the press and then of course they had the private meeting. It does indicate that the world essentially is worried about this issue because I.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Thought about how when Zelensky was there, I guess the last time, and they, they sort of like just jumped him, you know what I mean? You know, they bullied him. So European allies, European allies pulled up like, okay, y' all not gonna do that this time. Y' all gonna act, right?

[Morgan Wood]

Nah, for real. And Trump, you know, he had the couth, he was the, you know, he's very thankful for them. But it does seem like the pressure is pretty much Trump's trying to get.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That Nobel Peace Prize, so he gotta act.

[Nyla]

No, that's right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You gotta act noble in peace.

[Morgan Wood]

I was gonna say he's definitely looking for the peace Prize, but again, Trump is hoping to, he's hoping to have a three way meeting between himself, Zelensky and Putin soon. Now Zelinsky meeting is supposed to take place. He confirmed that while speaking to reporters outside of the White House. But he also said that there has not been a date yet set for that meeting. So of course we'll keep you guys posted. And to your point, Charlemagne, as you continue to reiterate, it would be nice to see Zelensky and Putin actually have the meeting between themselves because that's, that's where the conflict lies. It's between their, their two countries. And yeah, well, Trump, Trump can try to mediate as much as he can and you know, we, we just want to see an end to the conflict. And I think that's essentially what they were saying yesterday as well in that meeting is that, you know, everybody wants peace out of this situation. So.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I think, you know what else? Donald Trump has successfully made people stop talking about the Epstein Fox.

[Morgan Wood]

I was just about to say I had, I, that's so crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Over the weekend, the media stopped talking about the Epstein Fox.

[Morgan Wood]

Over the weekend I said the same thing. I said, listen, this is the first week.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You hear it every now and then, like, yeah, you hear it in sprinkles now. But it's not, you know, dominating the news the way that it should be.

[Morgan Wood]

Between this and, and D.C. for sure. Yeah, he Got the Epstein files up out of here, at least on the. On the front page news anyways.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Meanwhile, Trump is still telling y' all that y' all want transgenders to play sports. Oh, Lord, he's still hammering that point home every chance he gets before. Y' all don't learn nothing. Y' all don't learn a damn thing.

[Morgan Wood]

Democrats, that's your front page news at 6am that's your front page news for 6am At 7am we'll talk more about the president and how he's trying to get rid of mail in ballots. So stick around.

[DJ Envy]

All everybody else, get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, phone lines are wide open again. 800-585-1051. Call us up right now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This is your time to get it.

[DJ Envy]

Off your chest, whether you're mad or blessed. 800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hello? Who's this?

[Caller/Listener]

Who's Xavier?

[DJ Envy]

Xavier, what up? Get it off your chest.

[Caller/Listener]

Good morning, y'.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All.

[Caller/Listener]

How y' all doing, man? Check this out. I got a little thing. It's a little. It's a therapist lady that I'm trying to really get at. So I feel like if I give a shout out on her journal, he might let me get at her, the invitation. She's a family and a marriage therapist, so I just want to see if she listened to it. Would she give me a shot?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Will she give you a shot? Why don't you book a session with it? No, that'd be kind of predatory.

[DJ Envy]

That would be kind of crazy.

[Caller/Listener]

But, no, you can't do that. You. You book a session, she won't be able to talk to you for, like, 10 years, I think.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, Lord. Wow.

[Caller/Listener]

I already thought about that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Where'd you meet her at?

[Caller/Listener]

Met at the grocery store.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So why you ain't hollering at the grocery store?

[Caller/Listener]

I did, man, but, you know, she told me if I purchased a journal, so, look, I thought about a journal. Send y' all a couple journals, then I might get it like that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know what you're talking about, but feel free to send the journals up, sir.

[DJ Envy]

Good luck, brother.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right.

[Caller/Listener]

Appreciate it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, I don't want you to sound so defeated and deflated. I'm just saying. I just don't understand how that's going to work. Like, if you met her at the grocery store, why don't you just talk to her directly? Like, why are you going all indirect through the Breakfast Club and everything else?

[Caller/Listener]

Well, why not give her. If I give a journal a shout out, then what? Don't you think that'll work as well? So support.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So her journal take out on date. What's her journal?

[Caller/Listener]

Her journal.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay. What's it called?

[Caller/Listener]

It's called the. The invitation. If he's a marriage and family therapist out of Houston, Texas.

[DJ Envy]

Okay, well, hopefully she listening.

[Caller/Listener]

I'm gonna send this to her so I can speak in the work.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, you're gonna send this. This clip to her?

[Caller/Listener]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, both of y' all need to come to my mental wealth Expo in October. I'll be announcing that soon. See y' all might can, you know, meet each other, you know, see each other face to face. There a lot of people be hooking up that weekend, by the way? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, just because it's a weekend of, you know, we bring people in town and that's when people like really get to communicate and, you know, I don't know if he'll be hooking up. I just made that up.

[DJ Envy]

Just made that up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I have no idea.

[DJ Envy]

Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need the event, hit us up now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Get it off your chest. Is sponsored by Michael the Bull Laminsov.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Nyla]

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[DJ Envy]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

Back to the world's most dangerous morning.

[DJ Envy]

Show, the Breakfast Club.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

If this world were mine.

[DJ Envy]

Hey, Roman numeral 7 days drop it like it's hot. If this world was mine I take it James and make em multiply.

[Nyla]

If this world was mine I'd take.

[DJ Envy]

Your enemies in front of God. Introduce em to that light Hit them strictly with that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

555-555-5555. It's a new day.

[DJ Envy]

This is your time to get it off your chest.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wait. Wake up.

[DJ Envy]

Whether you're mad or blessed, it's time to get up and get something. Call up now. 800-585-1051. We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club. Hello?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who's this?

[Caller/Listener]

That's Nick out of Florida. I wanted to talk about the trucking economy behind here and what's going on.

[DJ Envy]

What'S up to us?

[Caller/Listener]

What I'm, I talk to different drivers on a daily basis and a lot of guys coming from over the road and coming back home and trying to work local and there's just an over saturation of truck drivers down here now. And everybody is trying to get whatever loads is available and doing it for real cheap. And it's like nobody, no truck. The trucking economy down here is just gonna collapse. These brokers are like taking all the money for themselves, not trying to pay the truckers what the load is actually worth because they know it's so many truck drivers down here. And from what I'm talking to a lot of these drivers, they're saying that when Trump passed the law to where if you can't speak English then they're gonna take your license, that took a lot of the overall drivers from over the road and brought them back home because they figured if they're gonna lose their license, at least they're closer to home now. And now these guys are, are doing loads for like gas money basically, if you ask me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, I've been seeing, I watched shipping wars and I don't know if it's, it relates to life, but I see everybody undercutting each other to get these loads in and nobody's really making no money.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah, I had a contract with, I had a dedicated route with LG and we lost it to Uber Freight because they're doing it for like literally half the price and they're doing double the work for half the price. And it's like I can't compete with that. I'm a, I'm an owner operator. I'm not a big company like Amazon. That's who took over the contract. Amazon, FedEx and ABF, they're the ones that taking over the contract from us smaller guys, because they're doing it for half the price. It's like, I can't compete with that. I got a family to feed. I can't do that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So what's the solution? Or is there a solution at the moment? Like, what would y' all need to happen to get the trucker economy booming again?

[Caller/Listener]

Well, we, the truckers themselves, I mean, I understand it. I own my truck, and I own my trailer. So I don't have no payment to, you know, to submit to that, say, okay, I have to take this load so I can make this payment. You got people that's coming into the. Into the trucking business that got a 700, $800 a week trucking bill, plus their trailer, $600 a week, you know, plus fuel. So I get it. They got to do the work to make the money to pay their bills. So that's why they're taking every little thing that they can get. But what has to happen is we have to have a base minimum of every load that we do. It doesn't matter if, like, it doesn't matter if the load is five minutes away. For me, it has to be a minimum of, like $300, $400 for us to do that load. You got. You got people that's taking that load for 200.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm gonna be honest with you, man. I respect this trucker economy conversation, but if I hear you say, you got to take a load one more time, I'm not mature enough to have these kind of conversations. Keep talking about all these loads that you got to take as a man. Stop.

[DJ Envy]

What is wrong with you, man? Salute to all the truckers out there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know, but he. I still don't hear the solution. I want to help. I want to see how we can help.

[DJ Envy]

I. I really don't know if there's a solution. You know, a lot of people got their CDC licenses, and they're carrying Paul's and they're carrying loads. So it's. It's like, it's more and more truckers out there. There's more and more people that. The brokers are getting a lot more money. I really don't know what they could.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Do if you taking all them loads, you need to be a porno star.

[Joey Badass]

Yo. Shut up, man. Hello?

[DJ Envy]

Who's this?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

KG from Kansas City, man.

[Caller/Listener]

What's going on?

[DJ Envy]

What's up, brother?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How you feeling?

[DJ Envy]

Get off your chest.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You sound like you got the blunt in your hand right now.

[Carlos Miller]

Nah, I'm working, man.

[Caller/Listener]

I'm in My big semi, man. Okay, that's right here. I don't know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Y' all heard that. The what? What'd you say? Yeah, man. I got.

[Carlos Miller]

I gotta.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I got.

[Carlos Miller]

I got a beef, man, with all.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Three of y', all, man.

[DJ Envy]

All three of us. Why would we do.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What happened?

[Caller/Listener]

Because, for one, just don't never come.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

To Kansas City, man.

[Caller/Listener]

You always talking about them foreign states.

[Carlos Miller]

And stuff, and he'll never come to Kansas City.

[Nyla]

Hey, yo, stop. I haven't been there in a long time. I have. I used to come to Kansas City all the time. I used to go to both Kansas City, Kansas, and Kansas City, Missouri. Where you at?

[Carlos Miller]

Well, I'm in Kansas City, Missouri. You know how we feel about being called Kansas?

[Caller/Listener]

We don't do that on that other side of that.

[Nyla]

I know. That's why I had to distinguish the difference. I said I'd go to Kansas, and then I've been to Missouri as well. I will be there, sir. I'm very sorry about that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She don't like Taylor Swift. So ever since Taylor Swift started hanging out in Kansas City so much, you don't want to be around?

[Nyla]

I actually love Taylor Swift.

[Caller/Listener]

It's always the Dallas Cowboy fan trip.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yo, yo, yo. Relax.

[Caller/Listener]

Relax.

[Carlos Miller]

And envy, man.

[Caller/Listener]

What's up with the car show, man?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You'll never come this way, man.

[Carlos Miller]

I heard you tell old girl that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It was hard to get this way to the Midwest.

[Carlos Miller]

I mean, we need to make that happen.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, I mean, it's. That's. It's an 18 hour drive. And if, you know, putting cars on them trucks to drive 18 hours is very expensive because like. Like they said the gas is expensive driving all them trucks now. So it's. It makes it very, very hard. We're gonna try to get to the Midwest. I don't know if we're gonna get to Kansas.

[Caller/Listener]

To a boss, man. You got it now.

[DJ Envy]

I ain't got it. I got six kids. I ain't got it.

[Nyla]

You gotta take some more loads.

[DJ Envy]

They gotta take some more loads.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And then Charlotte, man, can I get a book, man? I know how to read, too.

[Nyla]

Damn.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I'll send you a book, brother. I'll send you a book. Don't get no barbecue sauce all over the book, man. I know. How y' all doing in Kansas City? Okay.

[Nyla]

Yo, you're coming.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All right, man. All right, man. I appreciate y', all, man. Hey, y' all have a blessed day.

[Carlos Miller]

Man, and keep doing that work for us.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We appreciate you, brother.

[DJ Envy]

Get it off your chest. 805. 851-051. We got the latest with Lauren coming up. What we talking about?

[Lauren LaRosa]

We do. We're going to start this morning talking with Wendy Williams because she may be taking legal action in this whole conservatorship back and forth, and I don't know, y'. All. I don't think it's looking too good for her about getting off this conservatorship. We're going to talk about it.

[DJ Envy]

Damn. All right. Have you spoke to her?

[Lauren LaRosa]

I haven't spoke to her directly, but I talked to her attorney over the weekend and I've spoken. Don't tell us.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, yeah, we'll do it when we come back. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why y' all love slow songs so much in the morning, people trying to wake up. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's why people be smoking cushion, doing cocaine early in the morning, drinking energy drinks. I'm just saying coffee.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm sorry, that's the residuals.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Nyla]

That's a lie.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Slow song. People trying to wake up, man. Wake people the hell out.

[DJ Envy]

All right, good morning. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get to the latest with Lauren.

[Nyla]

Lauren becoming a straight fact.

[DJ Envy]

She gets them from somebody that knows somebody.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She gets the details.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything and everybody.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She be having the latest on this. The Latest with Lauren LaRosa. Sometimes you have facts, sometimes you have details. Sometimes she have a little bit of everything. Oh, it's the latest on the Breakfast Club. Talk to me.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So Wendy Williams attorney Joe Takapina, we know him because he also worked with ASAP Rocky in the case as well, too. He told me over the weekend that they are definitely exploring the ice idea of taking legal action following Wendy's medical records being allegedly leaked to the media. So we talked about this last week, remember? It was a story about her testing is done, and then a source confirmed that she had been found, that it. That it came out that she actually has the dementia and all the things that they were claiming according to that source. So Joe Tacopino was pissed off. He was really, really mad. When I spoke to him, he said that this is a clear violation of her. Of the HIPAA law, even if the report is false, because he's still saying that this report is false. Now, Wendy has been out over the. Yeah, she ran into Page Six. She was actually. She. She looks good, but there's one video where she's talking about Joe Tekapena being Upset. Listen to the audio.

[Joey Badass]

Wendy, how are you tonight?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And what brings you out?

[Nyla]

Coming out to eat. It's dinner time.

[Joey Badass]

And any reactions to the.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Your medical report that does hold up the dementia diagnosis?

[Nyla]

No. And my attorneys are highly upset.

[Carlos Miller]

They are?

[Nyla]

Yes, my attorneys. My attorneys are highly upset.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, good.

[Nyla]

Diamond. Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And what about the. Do you have anything you want to say to your conservator?

[Nyla]

I want to say hi to my attorney, Alan Diamond. All right. And Joe.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Cool.

[Nyla]

Joe Tacopina.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Cool.

[Nyla]

Those are my attorneys. And, and I will get Adam guardianship. I, I saw the video over the weekend. She does not look okay.

[Lauren LaRosa]

She didn't look good in that video. There was so. There was two. That video. She's walking.

[DJ Envy]

What do you mean she didn't look good? She looked sick.

[Joey Badass]

Or does she look.

[Nyla]

Different faces? And just at one point she seemed like she was about to cry and break down and then like, she's like snapped back into it and I don't know, it's just, it's different. She just does not look okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She was talking very slow just now.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes. And then there's another video where, comma, after every word. Oh, yeah, a big, big pause after every word. But there's another video from this weekend as well where she looks a lot better than what you're talking about and she's talking a bit better. But I mean, it's still a lot different than we've seen her. But according to, like, you know how they've been trying to, the conservatives have been trying to present this whole dementia thing. It's like she can go in and out of it. So I don't know, like, we don't know. I mean, that's.

[Nyla]

Right now, what happens with dementia, you do go in and out of it until you are, you know, until it gets to a stage where you can't completely, you know what I mean?

[DJ Envy]

You can't get out of it anymore.

[Lauren LaRosa]

But I agree with you, though, she didn't look good in that first video. And the reason why I was saying earlier that I don't think it's looking good for her is because at this point, what is, what it's seeming like is the things that, that her family, the attorneys that they're arguing about, it just doesn't seem like they're ever going to come to a resolve.

[DJ Envy]

Like, where did it go wrong? Because at one time I thought it was going, like in a good direction and that she had a good, she possibly had a, had a good chance of leaving. And then all of a sudden it just spiraled out of control.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah. Well, the conservator is still saying the same thing. She, Sabrina Mercy doesn't want to be the conservative conservator. She wants to figure out exactly what is going on with Wendy health wise, which is why these tests happened or did not. I don't. And then they find a new conservator. Then they figured out. But it's all dependent on these. And I'm being told two different things. Like I literally read a letter that said that the tests were complete. It did not have her medical diagnosis in it though. Which is why they're upset because somewhere, somehow a diagnosis got given to somebody.

[Nyla]

Yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And that was given to the judge. But Joe Tecopena saying there's an independent doctor who was supposed to do these tests. I don't know if they're arguing semantics. It just seems like it's going nowhere at this point.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So. Yes. But in other news, I'll just say.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It felt like things were moving a lot more, a lot more positively when Gina Lisa was at the helm.

[Morgan Wood]

Yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Like Gina was holding it down. That was the woman who was helping Wendy figure out like almost like as a consultant figure out like who should be on her team, what should be done when she gets out of conservatorship. What does that look like? Because she stayed she most. She still will need a bit more help. You know, she's talked about other health issues.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Feel like things have gone off the rails since Gina hasn't been around.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It's all over the place right now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Shoot to Gina. Drop on the clues. Bombs for Gina Lisa.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, I agree.

[DJ Envy]

This really makes you think if you have older parents or even yourself to make sure that you put yourself in a predicament or a situation where you have somebody that you can trust.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Not a predicament, commit anyone. Well, position. Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Prepare for, you know that, that somebody that you can trust can take care of you well. And that you don't put yourself in this situation like this.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Well, speaking of Gladys Knight. So Gladys Knight, currently on tour, currently on tour with Shaka Khan, Stephanie Mills as a part of the Queen's Tour and Patti LaBelle and her son actually filed some, some paperwork in North Carolina claiming that she is being or alleging that she's being mentally and financially abused by her current boyfriend. Now Gladys Knight had to come out and release a statement. So we have the statement. The statement says I'm sorry that my health, that my health and performances have been misrepresented. She says, I want my fans and Those concerned, to rest assured, I'm doing well for someone who has been on stage for three quarters of a century. Hard to believe, right? I'm healthy and I'm happy. I'm visiting friends and family these last few months. I'm excited to get back on the road with my sisters on stage during the Queen's tour. See you soon. So she had to come out and make that statement because her son is alleging that her boyfriend, who is, you know, bit younger than her, is taking advantage of her and her son is saying things. She should not be on stage. It's not helping her. She looks happy in the videos that I've seen, though.

[Nyla]

But so behind the scenes is obviously some issues.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's funny when you say things like that, though. She looks happy in the videos I've seen. That's all you saw was a video that was probably two, three minutes long. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, when people make these statements, they're making them because they're with these people for long periods of time, way longer than we see them or they've seen something.

[DJ Envy]

We didn't see something behind the scenes or they see something that made it. Made them feel.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This is wild how social media people work and how we just work because we see somebody for three minutes, be like, she look fine to me.

[DJ Envy]

I seen that video.

[Lauren LaRosa]

But what do. What do we have to go off of? Because she. Herself, she's saying she's okay, think about that. But then her son is saying no.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because her son is with her all the time. You ever thought about that?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes, but.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And her son been with her. Her son has been with her for her whole life. So he would know when something's wrong.

[DJ Envy]

And Gladys Knight is 81 years old. So if something's going on, she might not want to show what's going on. She might not want to say what's going on. But if she.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It might keep her. It might keep her going and be able to get out.

[DJ Envy]

See something.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think, by the way, I don't know what's wrong with her, but we've all.

[DJ Envy]

Or something is wrong with.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, I don't. Yeah. And we've been. All been. We've been in situations where we've seen, you know, when older people start to break down, they never. They always the last to know.

[DJ Envy]

That's my point.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah. Yeah. So there's been an instance where her son has talked about, to you guys point that there was one time during like a New Year's Eve party where for like 45 minutes. He says that, you know, her memory struggled and she couldn't even remember who he was while talking to him. So she. He feels like she's just on cruise control right now. So she's like, her being on stage and performing and doing all this touring, it's not. Not helping her.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And so he want her to sit down somewhere.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, he wants her to, you know. He wanted to sit down. Yep.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What's the problem with that, Mom? You too, Your mom. You getting up there, but, you know, starting to see things not be the way they used to be. I need you to sit down somewhere. I think I care about you, but.

[DJ Envy]

You know, sometimes when you get to that. That age where you just want to do what you want to do, sometimes performing keeps you alive.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I was about to say sometimes, you.

[DJ Envy]

Know, you don't want to just sit. Sit down and relax. You want to work.

[Nyla]

The older you get, the more stubborn you are. Like, that's. That's just how it is.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[Nyla]

She been doing the same thing for a. And it's. It's her pattern.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah. And her. Gladys thy son is saying that, like her husband, who he's saying isn't. Isn't misusing his power. He says, I given her. I've given him room to be her husband and do her thing, but now I'm stepping in. I'm not trying to overstep, but. Yeah, but as her son, I just feel like this was going on. But I think we. You look at people like, you know, Wendy, she keeps talking about doing a podcast to get back on air. Gladys Knight says she wants to get back on stage with her sisters and tour. So maybe it's just that. That thing. But if there's any more updates here, because she did release this statement and she says she's okay, we will let you know.

[Nyla]

That's what's up. Oh, and before we get out of here, guys, the glasses that I had on yesterday were called the OMGs. These are the City Girls. Use the promo code again. Wake W A K e if you want 20 off your messy vision eyewear. Messyvision eyewear dot com.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Is it all girl groups? What do you mean? OMG girls or no City Girl.

[Nyla]

No, no, it's not. This is one style. So, no, you actually brought that to my attention. But no, it's not. These are the City Girls and yesterday was the omg. So thank you guys for helping me sell out the OMGs. Absolutely.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Oh, they sold out.

[Nyla]

Yes, they will be back in stock next week. Thanks, Alyssa listeners.

[DJ Envy]

All right, now when we come back, we got front page news. And then Joey Badass will be joining us. So don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Good morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get back in some front page news. What's up, Morgan?

[Morgan Wood]

All right, so I definitely want to talk about Trump trying to eliminate mail in ballots. But first, let me get into a weather update on Aaron. The first hurricane of 2025 Atlantic season is still a dangerous category three storm. This morning. At last check, the National Hurricane center said Erin's maximum sustained winds had dropped from 125 miles per hour to 115 miles per hour. Forecasters say Aaron could bring high surf and possible tropical storm conditions to parts of the Bahamas and the US Atlantic coast this week. Now that includes North Carolina's Outer Banks, where coastal flooding could.

[DJ Envy]

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[Carlos Miller]

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[DJ Envy]

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[Morgan Wood]

By late Wednesday, North Carolina's Outer Banks is also under a tropical storm warning along the Jersey Shore. Some communities have already banned swimming at their beaches because of dangerous surf conditions the storm is creating. Now Aaron is currently turning about 750 miles south southeast of Cape Hatteras in North Carolina. And again, North Carolina is under a tropical storm warning and could see some coastal flooding later this week. Wednesday, that's tomorrow. So forecasters also say that the storm could produce life threatening surf and rip currents along the east coast this week. So please, please be safe and keep your eye on Aaron. In other news, President Trump is moving to eliminate mail in ballots ahead of the 2026 midterm election. So he wants this to happen soon. The President shared a post on Truth Social which outlined his plan to, quote, lead a movement to get rid of mail in ballots. And it targets what he called highly inaccurate, very expensive and seriously controversial voting machines. Trump has previously claimed that there's widespread voter fraud involving mail in ballots and pledged to to fight for election integrity. Let's take a listen to President Trump's comments on mail in ballots.

[DJ Envy]

Ballots are corrupt. Mail in ballots.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You can never have a real democracy.

[Joey Badass]

With mail in ballots. We as a Republican Party are going to do everything possible that we get.

[DJ Envy]

Rid of mail in ballots. We're going to start with an executive order that's being written right now by.

[Joey Badass]

The best lawyers in the country. All of the money they spend, it's.

[DJ Envy]

Approximately 10 times more expensive than paper ballots. And paper ballots are very sophisticated with the watermark paper and everything else.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's a very interesting move for someone who just, you know, by his words, won in a landslide. You know, like he claims he did win every swing state. You know, you know, he claims it was a blowout, which it wasn't per se, but that's a very interesting move for somebody who just won the way he won.

[Morgan Wood]

So what you're saying is that if you, if it basically, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Well, if you won't the way you say you did, why leave it alone?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Morgan Wood]

Okay. So while the President's post is calling for an end to mail in ballots in effort to dramatically overhaul the way federal elections are run, has faced legal roadblocks in recent months. So again, I will keep you guys posted on that because you definitely want to know what's going on in your state regarding these midterms coming up and how you can vote.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And you know, Morgan, I told people I believe it's a political coup going on amongst Republicans. Like if you are trying to Trump and MAGA and you aren't sure, you aren't sure you can trust, let's say, a Rupert Murdoch and his media machine, you know, from Fox to the Wall Street Journal, and you're not sure you can trust, you know, Elon Musk and whatever mechanisms he can use, you know, to sway voters, then they need to take things into their own hands and figure out how to manipulate elections the best way they know how. And you get, you know, conversations like this talking about ending mail and voting.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And redistrict and map redistrict.

[Morgan Wood]

So you're saying it's just, it's happening.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Y' all pay attention.

[Morgan Wood]

Wake up. And Here in Washington, D.C. d.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser is pushing back on President Trump's declaration that his anti crime crackdown is making the city safer. Trump called DC's crime statistics fake in a truth post, a truth social post yesterday, adding that the surge in federal agents and National Guard troops is already improving safety across this city, the nation's capital. Now, D.C. mayor Muriel Bowser disputed that during remarks to reporters, saying that the increasing number of troops posted in the city doesn't make sense.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Sense.

[Morgan Wood]

Let's take a listen to D.C. mayor Muriel Bowser's comments.

[Nyla]

This doesn't make sense.

[Morgan Wood]

You know, it doesn't make sense.

[Lauren LaRosa]

The numbers on the ground in the District don't support a thousand people from.

[Morgan Wood]

Other states coming to Washington, dc.

[Nyla]

You know that.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So if you want to know what's happening, the question is really not for us.

[Nyla]

It's, it's, it's for why the military.

[Morgan Wood]

Would be deployed in an American city to police Americans.

[Nyla]

That's the question.

[Morgan Wood]

Yeah. So several hundred people have been gathering for protests across the city in recent days. And those present said the increasing number of National Guard troops in the city is creating fear and anxiety, especially among those who may be targeted for detention and arrests. There have been some arrests and undocumented immigrants and organizers urged D.C. residents to actually make noise outside of their homes every night, night at 8pm to show their opposition. And I will say this too, as someone who's in this area, even though, you know, last week we spoke with Mayor Bowser and I asked her if it would be, if it would be safe or, you know, how it would impact them, the city, economically. For people like me who come in from Maryland or come in from D.C. i mean, come in from Virginia who are very close to the city, frequent the city, whether we're coming in there for work. You know, I'm on Capitol Hill. I come to eat, I come to party, whatever the case is. And I will tell you that the sentiment right now is do not go to D.C. so I'll keep you posted on, you know, what comes of that situation. But it's, you know, the sentiment is right now is just not the time. Stay out of D.C. and, you know, and if you are in the city, just to be safe and keep your head on the swivel. And it's sad because you already had to keep your head on the swivel, but now you got to keep your head on the swivel. Not only for someone who's supposed to be protecting you or what you would think is somebody protecting you, but also, you know, that. But also in addition to the. Already that the crime that was going on, which isn't. Which to her point, the mayor's point was on a. On a decline.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Is this a broad sentiment, Morgan, or is it, like, amongst, you know, black people?

[Morgan Wood]

This. I could. Well, I can say that that's who I talk to is black people, Black and brown people. And yeah, that seems to be the broad sentiment amongst the.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The.

[Morgan Wood]

The black and brown collective is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Trump said it worked. We got them niggas out. We didn't have to be. We didn't have to build a wall.

[Morgan Wood]

We not partying. We not brunching as much.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I mean, there's.

[Morgan Wood]

There is to an extent, at least during the days, but, like, partying at night and stuff like that, it's kind of like, nah, it's cool. I'm good on that. Matter of fact, it's back to school time. Anyway.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Matter of fact, somewhere like this right now, he's like, yes, yes. Trump said drop on the clues. Bombs for keeping out.

[Nyla]

It worked.

[Morgan Wood]

No, I'm just kidding.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, my goodness.

[Lauren LaRosa]

All right, y'. All.

[Morgan Wood]

So that's your front page news. I'm Morgan Wood. Y' all can follow me on socials at Morgan Media. That's M O R G Y N M E D I A. And for more news coverage, follow us at Black Information Network. Download the free iHeartRadio app. Visit us@b news.com. thank you. Thank you, thank you.

[DJ Envy]

All right, thank you, Morgan. When we come back, Joey Badass will be joining us. His new album, Lonely at the top, comes out August 29, so don't go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Nyla is here with us as well, and we got a special guest in the building. Joey Badass ass.

[Joey Badass]

What you doing? What it do, man? How you doing?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Good morning. I am blessed, like. And Holly favorite, how you feeling?

[Joey Badass]

Good, man, Good.

[Nyla]

First of all, how is fatherhood?

[Joey Badass]

Fatherhood is amazing.

[Nyla]

Amazing. Congratulations.

[Joey Badass]

Father of two now. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate that. Loving it. Basking in it, you know what I mean? At the stage. Ain't getting much sleep.

[Nyla]

Yeah.

[Joey Badass]

Right now, but, you know, it's. It's going great.

[Nyla]

How old is a couple, what, two months now?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Something, right?

[Joey Badass]

Yeah, something like that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How's it changed you as a. Yeah.

[Joey Badass]

I mean, I won't say it changed me as a man. I say it's refined, you know what I mean? Just, you know, maturity. It's like, I ain't got the bandwidth, bro. You know what I'm saying? For, like, the bull. No more. It's like when I had my first child, the biggest revelation I had was like, oh, I only got one kid. You know what I mean? It's like I've been taking care of so many people and, like, putting so much energy into that, and you realize that you have, like, one child, like, one person that you actually solely responsible for. And, you know, having my son now, it's like, you know, it's no different. It's just. It kind of gives you that extra boost of like, yo, listen, let's get to it. Let's get it done. Like, when we leaving the house, we on a mission, and the mission is to complete it and get back home. That's right. Yeah. For real.

[Nyla]

And you got the best of both worlds now. Cause you got your girl and your boy now.

[Joey Badass]

Absolutely, absolutely.

[J]

As you said, you've matured. Or is there, like, a major difference from your first time having a child when you were younger versus now?

[Joey Badass]

Yeah, I mean, I'd say the biggest difference was, you know, I don't. I'm at a different readiness and preparedness level now, you know what I'm saying? So it was like, you know, with this one and then also kind of having the experience and the data now. Right. It's like playing words, data, you know what I'm saying? And having that to apply. So everything that I've learned from my first experience, being able to take that, and it kind of catapult me into this one pretty much. It's like going navigating the street and knowing where the bumps is at. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's. It's kind of like that. Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, I was listening to Dark Order. They sent me Lonely at the Top last night. They just sent me snippets. But I listened to the whole Dark Order this morning.

[Joey Badass]

Yeah, that was purposely done because I know you guys have a system and y' all like to listen to the music before, but I also like to reserve some of it, but. Because I want you guys to, you know, actually be in tune. You know what I mean, when they drop. So.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, but you say on Dark Order, you say independent mindset. You ain't with them majors. So when I think about everything that's going on with your label right now and them delaying the album, does it make you wish you was indie?

[Joey Badass]

Well, what I'll say is, you know, we had our complications, and, you know, I think what had. What had disappointed me or angered me the most is that I'm very passionate about my relationship with my fans. And, you know, when I say things, I want them to know that my word is bond. So I hate that I was put in a position where I communicated a date, and then I had to change that, you know what I'm saying? Because I worked so hard on that relationship with my fans. Because historically, I haven't always been the.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The.

[Joey Badass]

The best at that. And that's, you know, me taking accountability and me wanting to improve and be better. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, so, yeah, we had our little whatever, but we on common ground now, you know what I'm saying? And, you know, I feel fully supported and everything. And August 29th, do you really feel fully supported?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because I was gonna ask, right? What's the point? Do you really, brother? Do you really.

[Joey Badass]

You know, we gotta drill into this thing. You see, I was trying to just be political, right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Just get past he's. Until you really.

[Joey Badass]

Let's dig into it. Like, damn, I thought the Juice would.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Take the edge off. What's the point of a label even delaying an album? Because it's not like they gonna work the records at radio the way that they should. It's not like they gonna put the building behind you with the promo and marketing the way that they should. So what's the point of delaying the album?

[Joey Badass]

Charlamagne, you got some. Some intense feelings today. You ain't like that ginger shot.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But they give you a reason. Did they say, hey, so the reason.

[Joey Badass]

Was that they felt as if, like, you know, they wanted to put more into it. And, you know, like, I had my. My complications with that, if you will. But at the end of the day, you know, I'm like, okay, you know, that's not a bad thing. I just think that the way that it happened and you know what I'm saying, like, telling me the week before my fans think that the project is coming is just, like, not productive. You know what I'm saying? It's counterproductive to the whole situation. So I could say that they intentions were good, but the execution of it wasn't the best, you know what I'm saying? But like I said, all is well now and everybody's on common ground. And we got a date. So August 29th. At the end of the day, I just want to put this music out. And that's doing what I'm looking forward.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

To because I was having a. A debate about you in a group chat. You know, the hip hop group chat.

[Joey Badass]

Oh, yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And so I was saying, like. Like, Joey, like, I listen to the project.

[Joey Badass]

I've been in the group chats a lot this year. Huh.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But for good things. Great reading.

[Joey Badass]

It's like you, like the fifth person I heard say, y' all talk about you in the group chat.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And everybody had one. One common thing in regards to Joey Badass's music. They always say he just need a race record. Is that something you chase?

[Joey Badass]

I won't say that I chase that, but I won't say that it's something that I'm not cognizant of.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Gotcha.

[Joey Badass]

You know what I mean? I definitely have an awareness of that. And. Yeah. Lonely at the top, August 29th. Let's see what happens. You know what I'm saying? Because. Yeah.

[J]

Is that implying that it's on this tape?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We'll see.

[Joey Badass]

I think that there's a record on there, you know, maybe two records on.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

There, Ready to love.

[Joey Badass]

I think that's a great record.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[Joey Badass]

You know what I mean? I think that's definitely poised for that type of position. But there's another one I'm specifically thinking about.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But what is the Super Flea one? The one I got, like, the club vibe to it.

[Joey Badass]

I'm trying to reserve, you know, I mean, I want people to, because, you know, it's. And it's funny. And I'm glad we having this conversation, because I feel like in 2025, like, I'm at a point. I'm at a point with my artistry where it's like, I really don't want to give samples out. I really don't want to drop no songs ahead of it. I really want you to experience the body of work like I intended it to, and I wanted it to be fully new when. When people hear it, you know what I'm saying? Like, I don't want the. I don't. I don't want to give away too much. I have too much expectations. Like, I really enjoy creating bodies of work and sharing that. You know what I'm saying? So. But yeah, you know, you still gotta promote your project. It's like, how do you promote the project without, like, putting singles out and, you know, like that?

[Nyla]

But this is one cliffhanging ass man. Like, he will leave you on a cliff with his music and in acting.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because. Who, me?

[Nyla]

Yeah, you.

[Joey Badass]

I'm a cliffhanger.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes, you are.

[Nyla]

Yo, you would leave somebody on the cliff and not know what's going on. Because even in the films, even with the shows like Wayne know, if Unique.

[DJ Envy]

Bad or not, you gotta create some suspense.

[Joey Badass]

You know what I mean? Some suspense, some anticipation, you know, I mean, I feel like you should feel something.

[J]

Hella anticipation this year, especially starting off the year, what was it, the first week of January? You, first day, first day, first day, January 1st.

[Nyla]

Attacking the.

[J]

Or, you know, claiming your title in New York, but then also, you know, coming from the west coast, what. What struck that?

[Joey Badass]

So, first of all, it's like, you know, my intention was never to come for the west coast, you know what I'm saying? I think that, like, with Rulers Back, it was really in the spirit of, like, yo, y' all having y' all moment, But New York got something to say too type of thing. You know what I'm saying? And it's like, yeah, you know, people had their complications that, like, oh, y' all had y' all moment. We ain't saying nothing. This at the third. But I'm like, yo, it's 2025, and it's a playful. It was. It was. It was a playful nation for me, you know what I'm saying? Like, this rap is a sport, and I have so many allies on the West. Like, from my perspective, if you really seen it, it was like, I didn't mean no disrespect. That wasn't my intention or whatever. But I'm like, yo, we rapping. You know what I'm saying? So when people felt like I was attacking, I had to respect it. Cause I think that my perspective would have kind of been the same if the shoe was on the other foot. Like, yo, you know what I'm Saying so. And I think that a lot of people took the opportunity, and a lot of good things came from that.

[DJ Envy]

We're still kicking with Joey Badass. Nyla's here as well, Jess.

[Nyla]

So if any of those guys from the west coast decided to respond back, right, if one of them rappers was the like, all right, go back at you. Were you prepared for it to be?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, people. People did respond.

[Joey Badass]

Yeah, a bunch of people respond. It was like 50 responded.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, no, we definitely gonna get into that.

[J]

But I want to get into this line where you were like, women lie, but Joey don't lie, Might delete later. I know damn sure that Joey won't. But with that line, you know, the play on words, we might delete later. And, you know, that being Cole's project. How do you feel about the Big Three now?

[Joey Badass]

I mean, what do you mean?

[J]

Do you still feel like there is a Big Three? Did the Big Three change? Do you feel like it's, like, not a thing anymore?

[Joey Badass]

No, I want to say that it changed. I mean, I say that, you know, over the last 10 years, when we talk about rap, like, yeah, I think that those figures are the prominent figures, you know, I'm saying in the space. I think, you know, a lot of interesting things has happened in the last year. But, yeah, to say the least. You know what I'm saying? But, yeah, I mean, I don't feel no particular way about it. You know what I'm saying? It's. Yeah, I love it. I love it all.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

As a New York artist, you feel away. And the reason you feel. When you're talking about Big Three and no MC from New York is mentioned.

[Joey Badass]

Oh, I mean, bro, listen, I think the Big Three, though, was more of like a. Like, it's like a class. I feel like that, like, when we talk about the Big three, we're talking about that class, and I think that there's a new era that's like, you know, kind of right behind that where we might be talking about a different three individuals in, like, the next five years.

[J]

But you don't consider yourself in that class.

[Joey Badass]

I mean, see, the thing is, I kind of do, but I'm so much younger than anybody else. Anybody else in that class got me about, like, eight to 10 years.

[J]

That was gonna be my question for you, because I feel like the game that you play versus the game that they play is different. Like, I think you brought it to my attention that Big Daddy Kane and Jay Z are the same age, and then it's like, they are, huh?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. Close to it.

[J]

They're the same age, but they're in different classes. So I feel like it's the same thing for you where it's like you're in the same class as them, but you. Your game is just a little different.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, yeah. 56J55.

[Joey Badass]

Oh, wow. Wow. The more, you know. Yeah, yeah. But, you know, I feel. I feel similar to that. And I think that me being younger has kind of allowed for different things for me, you know what I'm saying? Like, I think everybody path is different and there's not much that I would really change about my path. I'm just getting better, you know what I'm saying, as I go on and yeah, you know, I think that me being younger than those pairs gives me more years, you know what I'm saying? It gives me like still like a longer Runway to, you know, do what I want to do. So.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So in terms of your music career, what do you think has kept you from, like, getting to that next level? Just music? Well, what you mean just like to be in that, to be mentioned with that, with those guys or maybe have the commercial success that they've had?

[Joey Badass]

Well, I think it's me. I think it's the music that I put out, you know what I'm saying? I don't put out a lot of commercially poised music, you know what I'm saying?

[J]

Do you think it's that or do you think it's that you went the independent route?

[Joey Badass]

I think it's a combination of both, you know what I'm saying? Like, I didn't. I don't think that I've put out much commercial sounding music, you know what I mean? And it's like the ones that I did like, you know, I put out devastated back in 2016, and that had a big moment. And that's like probably one of my least favorite songs in my catalog. So it's like I remember how that made me feel, and it's like, even though I had the success, I'm like, is this feeling worth it? Like, do I want to, like, really be attached to a song that I don't love? You know what I mean? So, like, it kind of became more about artistic integrity for me. It's like I just kind of valued that a little bit more. But what I will say is I am trying to find the. The sweet spot, you know, I mean, I am looking for that sweet spot. It's like, how can I stay true to me, but still, like, you know, amplify it. Amplify the Sound, so.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And nobody ever talks about that, making a record that works, but it don't feel right to you, but you got to go out there and live with it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joey Badass]

For sure, for sure. You know what I'm saying? So that's what that taught me. And it's like after that, it was like, I was very skeptical about making those type of sounds. And again, like, you know, even though for me, like, I really do enjoy being experimental and versatile, and I enjoy when I play a song for somebody and they like, yo, that's you. I enjoy that feeling. But sometimes it also kind of like, takes away from, like, the vision a little bit, right? Because, like, I don't have a single other song, like, devastated in my catalog. And it's like, when I'm. When I'm going certain places, that's the representative thing of me. But it's like when you dive into my discography, it's like my sounds, nothing like that, you know what I mean? So I think just kind of being aware with that and then also just focusing on my bodies of work as well, you know?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How do you protect your piece in the industry that thrives off the.

[Joey Badass]

Stay out the way, man. You know? Stay out the way. I think this year has been the most in the way I've ever been.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

For a good reason.

[Joey Badass]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. For a good reason. Right. Like, a lot of good music came out of it. But, you know, just from a general standpoint, like, I think it's staying out the way, and I think lifestyle affects a lot of that. Right? Like, you know, like, where I'm at now, my life at 30 years old, like, you know, I'm still fairly young, but my life reflects that of, like, a very mature man, you know what I'm saying? So it's like, you ain't gonna really find me in the club. You ain't gonna find me in, like, you know, these. These dark energy spaces, you know what I'm saying? Where, like, like, yo, I got us my social battery so low. Like, yo, when I saw you out the other night when we was at the metro booming joint, like, after that, like, I just had to stay in the house for five days. Yeah. Recovering, you know what I'm saying? And it was too much because, you know, I mean, it's like I gave mad daps out, you know, mad people like, yo, boom, boom. It's like the first time a lot of people were seeing me, you know what I mean? And it's just. It does a lot to Me, and it's like I kind of got. And recover from that after. Yeah, yeah, I'm probably gonna have to recover from this interview.

[Nyla]

Damn Juice thing.

[Joey Badass]

Start pressing me about the label.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How much is being a successful actor? Change the trajectory of your career. You ain't just Joey Badass the rapper when you go out, you know what I mean?

[Joey Badass]

I would say that, you know, it made music because I feel like at a point, music was becoming to me, like, feeling like a job. And I think that the success in acting has, like, supported music being art again for me and just like, it being like, just do what you want to do because you good. You know what I'm saying? Like, like, you good. There's other things that you can do. Like, you know, you are. You're limitless, so do what you want to do and just make sure that every expression is as true is to heart, you know what I mean? It's just to spirit as you wish it to be.

[Nyla]

What do you like better, acting or music?

[Joey Badass]

I like both, you know what I mean? It's like, people ask me that question a lot, and I'm like, man, like, why do I gotta choose? You know what I'm saying? Like, I think that we talking about the field of arts. So to me, it's the same thing almost, you know what I mean? It's like, it's still me. I'm just showing up in another space, another medium, but as an artist still, you know, I mean, expressing myself, performing this, that, the third. So it's like, yeah, I like both. Like, you know what I mean? I don't plan on choosing that one over the other. Like, I think that, yeah, I'm highly capable, and I'll continue to be capable of just doing both, you know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, I got some movies that I'm working on, some shows that I'm working on. I can't spill no beans yet, but another cliffhanger hanger.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn.

[Joey Badass]

Now, I got to be aware of that now. Like, my cliffhanger ass. It's on the cliff.

[DJ Envy]

Like, yo, what's next?

[Nyla]

No, you leave us on the cliff all the time is what I'm saying.

[Joey Badass]

It's lonely at the top of the cliff, I guess.

[J]

Yo, no, this is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Has acting changed the way you write music?

[Joey Badass]

No, but I have been having a repeated thought, like. Like, I want to approach my music more from a space like that, more from, like, a theatrical space. Like, how can I, you know, not with this album, but like, how moving forward, how can I involve What I've learned on the TV and film side and bring it into my music more. I have been, like, you know, examining that whole field of thought and being like, yo, like, I definitely want to try my hand at, like, world building and playing a character on a body of work, if you will, and, like, playing into that and music videos and all of that type of.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Type of.

[Joey Badass]

Because I'm like, I could do that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You've seen that, though. I mean, Biggie did it with, like, Ready to Die or Raekwon did it.

[Joey Badass]

Right, right, right. But, you know, doing it in 2025 at a whole new level, you know what I'm saying?

[DJ Envy]

We're still kicking it with Joey Badass.

[J]

Nyla, when Unique got killed off, did you know you were killed off? Or, like, did you know you were coming back?

[Joey Badass]

Did I know I was coming back?

[Nyla]

I know you mean it. The cliffhanger.

[Joey Badass]

So I didn't know I was coming back.

[J]

Oh, you did know.

[Joey Badass]

I didn't know I was coming back. So, like, you know, the story goes. So the reason why that even happened was because that year, I had put out an album when we was filming that season, and I had to tour it, and the tour was conflicting with the shooting schedule, and I was just like, yo, at that point, it was like season three. And I was just at a point where I was like, yo, I feel like. I mean, how long is the show gonna go on? I don't know, but I feel like I've done what I had to do. So I'm like, I'm cool with y' all got 86 of me, if that's what y' all gotta do. Right? You know what I mean? So that's where it happened. It was written into the script. Unique dies. And then the day that I went in to get my head casting right, which is like, the process of, like, you know, if you about to have a brutal death in the tv, you gotta get your head casted because, like, they need something to bang in. You know what I mean? Like, so, like, they make a fake prosthetic version. When I walked into that office, I was like, oh, no, something is wrong. I made a mistake. You know what I mean? Like, and I called up Sasha Penn, who was the creator and the showrunner of Raising Kane, and I'm like, yo, is there any way?

[Nyla]

Damn.

[Joey Badass]

Because you know what it was? I had that moment, and I'm like, yo, I felt like I was, like, at a crossroads. So first I called my mom, because my mom is somebody who is just gonna Give it to me raw. You know what I'm saying? So I'm like, yo, like, what should I do? Because at the time, there was something on the horizon that wasn't set in stone yet. So I was cool with walking away from the show. Cause I'm like, I'm about to walk into this other opportunity when I get back from tour. And then my mom had dropped some wisdom on me. Like, yo, one in the hand is better than two in the bush.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right.

[Joey Badass]

And I was like, all right, let me call you back. And I called up Sasha and I'm like, yo, is there any way we could reverse? Cause he never wanted to let me go. He never wanted to kill my character.

[Nyla]

I mean, yeah, right?

[Joey Badass]

What exactly he never wanted to kill. And then he was just like, yo, Joey, like, tell me you serious? Because if you are, like, I'm gonna make some calls. And it's like, you cannot play with me. And I'm like, nah, I'm dead serious. He made it happen for me. And I left the head casting.

[J]

Thank God for.

[Nyla]

I was so pissed. Look, I ain't like, I'm glad you only look at DMs, bro. I was up in my. I was mad at him. Like, he was really unique and he's not unique.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He only wanted to kill you if he wanted to die.

[Joey Badass]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's crazy.

[Joey Badass]

Yeah. Really?

[J]

Were you dying to tell us? Like, all right, guys, I'm coming back. Cause everybody was tweeting you, you know, mention.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It was a whole thing.

[Joey Badass]

It was a yo. So it's kind of up because I had to even lie to my castmates. Yeah. Like, I couldn't even tell my castmates.

[J]

Why though?

[Joey Badass]

Cause that's what they told me. It was like, yo, like, you can't. You can't tell nobody because it was a cliffhanger. Right? So it was. Everybody was still shooting. Like, I dodged episode five. And it's like they had to keep going. So it was like, they're like, nah, we gotta keep the character. Like, we gotta keep the characters safe. Like, everybody got to believe that, right? And I was like, oh, I mean.

[J]

All right, that makes sense. 50 Cent do be doing some random, random near death moments. And then they come back.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What did 50 say during that time? Or does he. Or he's have that type of involvement?

[Joey Badass]

I didn't speak to 50 till after when I had came back and yeah, he had. He pulled up on me one day and, like, it was just me and him, like, we just chopping up for like 45 minutes. 50 is. It's like, he said a lot. He said a lot that day, you know what I'm saying? He dropped a lot of game and wisdom, and I could tell that he got respect for me and obviously it's mutual, you know what I'm saying? So, yeah, nah, he was just basically like, yo, you got it. You the one. You could do whatever the you want to do in this joint. And he was like, yo, you know, I. I want to let you know I got like 30 plus other shows, so it's whatever you want to do, you know what I'm saying? And like, you know, just kind of giving me that talk and I'm like, word.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what's more therapeutic? Actual therapy or going in the booth and getting it off? I know you always hear the artist be like, your therapy is. Yeah, yeah, my music is my therapy.

[Joey Badass]

You know, it's interesting you asked that because, you know, I think both are therapeutic. I think, you know, when you. When you in the booth, though, it's like, it's just letting off stainless steel, almost like, you know what I'm saying? You get to express, but, like, do you really get to understand? You know what I mean? And I feel like that's what sitting down with the therapist really brings to you is like, it helps you get to that place of like, knowing why things are happening to you and not just like, what are. What is happening to you, you know what I'm saying? I feel like the music gives me the outlet to talk about what is happening, but therapy gives me the outlet to understand why things are happening, you know what I'm saying? And yeah, it's like I actually am looking for a therapist at the moment.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, another new one?

[Joey Badass]

Yeah, new one.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. Why do you need. Why do you think you need a new one?

[Joey Badass]

Well, I loved my. My past one, but it's like, it's just been a little minute since, you know, we. We connected. So it was just like, I'm looking for somebody new, right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Joey Badass]

Cause it's like, yeah, you know, we gotta. We gonna have to do the whole thing anyway, like, you know, redownload and like that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Lauren LaRosa]

Oops.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[DJ Envy]

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[Nyla]

All?

[DJ Envy]

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[Joey Badass]

He was great. And he, he helped me a lot.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I love when black men learn early what I learned late because I didn't start going to therapy until I was 36. 36, 37. So what was the moment you realized you needed it? You're only 30.

[Joey Badass]

So I actually had. Did a, one of those therapist sessions with noisy. You remember those joints they used to put out with the rappers therapist series? Prodigy did one. YG did one. I did one.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yep.

[Joey Badass]

And it's funny because that's the first time I ever did therapy. It was live for the world to see. You know what I mean? And I felt like indifferent about that at the time, but I was very glad that I did it and I was very like, you know, typical, like he gonna say, like he gonna help me with and I end up like crying. Interviewing, all type of. And then after that, I actually connected with him and that's who became my therapist years.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wow.

[Joey Badass]

Like the next five years, you know, I mean, we, we conducted private sessions after that and you know, and yeah, shout out to Dr. Siri like he's, he's, he has Helped me become a better person. Yeah, I love that.

[Nyla]

I love how you can be transparent about that. Not many men can be transparent about that. Prior to your relationship with Saraya, you kept your personal life very private. Like, we knew very little about you. And I know that is intentional, but how hard has it been adjusting to people knowing? Because we still don't know a lot, but just even knowing that part of it. How. How have you been adjusting to that?

[Joey Badass]

I would say that it's a learning experience because it's pretty new for me, you know, but what's not new for me is being a public figure. So I'm somewhat used to and normalize the idea that. That I'm free game, you know what I'm saying? Like, my life is up for anybody to talk about, like, at least whatever I show.

[Nyla]

Yeah.

[Joey Badass]

You know what I mean? So I just try to be as cognizant as that as possible and, you know, show what I want them to see and, you know, not show other things. Like, you know, I don't. I've never been a person to, like, you know, really show my kids like that on social media because, you know, like, you know, with my daughter, for example, like, her mom and I is obviously not together, so, like, there are moments where my daughter is not gonna be with me, and the last thing that I want is for people coming up to her because, you know what I'm saying, they know me or something like that. Like. Yeah, so it's like I do that out of protection. And, yeah, I'm very, very critical about, you know, protecting the people in my life, you know what I'm saying? It's like, I'm not just because these people are not on the stage. I am. You know what I mean? So I'm. I'm. I'm built for this, you know what I'm saying? The public opinion and stuff like that. People say negative things to me. I see negative things all the time. I don't respond, I don't engage. But these people are not, you know what I'm saying? It's like that. That'll really affect their world and affect their energy, you know what I'm saying? So I do my best to protect my loved ones.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Do you think people realize how popular you are in Hollywood?

[Joey Badass]

How popping I am?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, you was. You. You was part of a project that won an Oscar, bro.

[Nyla]

Crazy.

[Joey Badass]

Yeah. I mean, listen, man, I don't. I don't. I don't think I really give a. About that type. You know what I'm Saying, like, I, if you came to my house, you will understand why I don't give a, Like, I live a beautiful life, you know what I'm saying? Like, I pray every day, every morning. If the world got to catch up with some type of, like, understanding of who I am, inshallah, you know what I mean?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Joey Badass Lonely at the top drops August 29th. Good to see you, brother. Man keep growing, man. Keep evolving, King.

[Joey Badass]

Likewise.

[Nyla]

Absolutely.

[Joey Badass]

Thank y' all for having me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Today, it's the Breakfast Club.

[DJ Envy]

Let's get to the latest with Lauren.

[Nyla]

Lauren becoming a street fat.

[DJ Envy]

She gets it from somebody that knows somebody.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She gets the details.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm the home girl that knows a little bit about everything.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She be having the latest on Latest with Lauren LaRosa. Sometimes you have facts, sometimes you have details. Sometimes you have a little bit of everything. Oh, it's the latest on the Breakfast Club.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Tory Lane's team is still fighting to get him home, and they're fighting back right now in an appeal court or appealing in court. And they're saying that based on the DNA evidence, there's a 1 in 1 million chance that Tory Lane's DNA was on the gun, that it was actually another black person. Let's take a listen. Listen.

[Nyla]

We found in the DNA evidence that.

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[Nyla]

This is an LR of one. Therefore, Mr. Peterson had an LR of one in a million that his DNA.

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wow.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah. So they're leaning on that for the DNA evidence because y' all remember it was inconclusive. And basically Tori's team is saying that was presented unfairly because the it being inconclusive doesn't mean that it, it was his DNA. Exactly. So, yeah, yeah, they're saying that there were four DNA profiles found on the magazine and then it lost.

[DJ Envy]

I, I, I thought that the judge wasn't hearing this again. I thought the judge wasn't talking to Tories.

[Nyla]

That's why he was in jail.

[DJ Envy]

I thought they weren't going back on the evidence. I thought they weren't going back on what's happening now. Has things changed?

[Lauren LaRosa]

No. So there, there were two other requests that Tori tried to put in to appeal. So he had asked for new evidence to be submitted in, and it just said no. And then he had asked for just a new sentence in general, and the judge Said, no. But this is the big one. This is the. Can he just be exonerated from all of this? So those two things did happen, and it would. That was reported. So I think it did confuse people. But this is the big appeal hearing, and there's three women judges that are sitting and listening to both arguments from both sides that went down yesterday. So that's who you're hearing. That's Lanes's attorney. Now, they're also saying that in addition to this DNA evidence argument, they're also saying that Kelsey's testimony was BS because originally she was saying she didn't remember what she said to the investigators. Then they had to play audio clips for her to remember certain things. And her and Tourist Team is like, y' all didn't even play the full audio. Y' all only played clips. And we never heard the full audio. We only heard certain things. They're also saying that because Meg, the Stallion's security guard, they. They said in the beginning of trial that he was going to testify that Tory confessed the shooting to him, allegedly the next day after it happened, when he went to go pick up some stuff from Tori. Then this Edison guy never got on the stand. Remember, he went missing. So Tourist Team is like, that's unfair. Because when you mention things, when you open up, you know, your opening statements, the judge, the jury has heard it now, so you can. Why would you. Why would he be even allowed to say that? Now, on the other side, the defense is like, look, y' all had ample enough time to shoot back at all this stuff. Oh, that's.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Like, during the trial. Where was all this energy during the trial? Trial. And even when you talk about the DNA, they never use DNA to convict Tory Lanez. They said during the trial that his DNA was inconclusive, and it could neither exclude nor definitively include Tory. So they never even used it.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, they're arguing that they should have brought in the actual. There's like, a scale of inconclusiveness, and they should have brought in the numbers so you could see how many. Like, how wide range of scale is and how small his.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I thought they said 90 of the DNA was. Was. Was male, but.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, so it was 90. It was 90% male. Contributors. There was four DNA profiles found on the magazine and four DNA profiles found on the gun.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But they told us all that during the trial.

[Lauren LaRosa]

But the attorney is saying that there's, like, these numbers specifically that they did not mention that they should have. Which is this scale not Even a percentage. It's like 1 in 1 million of something, something, something. And because they didn't mention that they did a bad job or unfair job of painting how wide range? Any. It could have been any black male. Male. It could have been any male. That's what she's saying. So now basically the defense is saying, first of all, the gun was found in the car. There were four people in the car. Y' all are arguing semantics here. They're also saying that Harris or Kelsey and Megan both identified him as the shooter themselves. Then they brought up the text message that he text. And then they also brought up that phone call from jail when he was recorded. And they're saying, like, if y' all are only seeing. He apologized because he was drunk and he ruined a friendship. Why would he only apologize to Megan and not apologize to Kelsey on the phone? So they brought up all this stuff to shoot. I keep saying that. Sorry.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Where was all this energy during the trial? I wouldn't give them lawyers a damn dime.

[DJ Envy]

Like, all these things they should have had beforehand.

[Lauren LaRosa]

That's what they're arguing. His new attorneys. Because, remember, he had Sean Holly. Then it was a second set of attorneys. Now he has a whole unite the people, another set of attorneys. And he's arguing. Arguing that they weren't given discovery or so like the evidence in time. And all the things y' all are saying. That's what they're. That's what they're alleging right now. But the defense is saying that's not true. Y' all could have asked for anything at any time. Y' all could have said that certain things weren't fair at a certain time. Y' all could have objected to things. And y' all did object to certain things, but not others. But now y' all are bringing it up, so we'll see what happens. But there are three women judges. One is a black woman judge who will be determining on whether what happens with Tory. Now, in other news, the girls and the singers. Money Long. So yesterday, I saw you do the report. Yeah, Money Long. Jaheim.

[Nyla]

Yep.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And she said she right.

[Nyla]

No, it's like.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Sorry, life, Jennings. My bad.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I remember when you used to be on point.

[Nyla]

Must be.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Oh, I remember what your hairline used to be, too. That's crazy. You a. It's okay. It's okay. Wrong male singer. Just like you had the wrong facial color a couple years ago, and we let you live. But you in here worried about me. You in here anyway. You could have just corrected. They moved on. You love to Start a pot, Andy Co. That's crazy. It ain't nothing over there but a rainbow. Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You hate people.

[DJ Envy]

Ignore him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Go ahead. I was very homophobic. What she said.

[DJ Envy]

Continue on ignore.

[Lauren LaRosa]

No, because the girls know you saucy and you like. Okay, I'm back. Anyway, so yesterday, Money Long actually commented on the Breakfast Club Instagram and she wanted to clarify something. She says that she was just joking. She was not hating. She was not shading.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We said that, though.

[Lauren LaRosa]

She not.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We said that in the conversation. I said.

[Nyla]

I said maybe. Yeah, maybe she was playing.

[Lauren LaRosa]

She wanted to clarify.

[Nyla]

I couldn't see the joke. I couldn't. I ain't think she was playing. I don't never see money playing. I'll never see a laughing, smiling, joking playing. But I'm glad to know that she was playing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think it's just because she got a serious face all the time.

[Nyla]

Yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I don't know if she put a LOL in the post it. Yeah, I see it even in the comment and people was in the comments like, girl playing. You wasn't playing. But I mean, the song, the lyrics don't make any sense for her to be serious, so. But she wanted to let y' all know she was just playing, so leave her alone.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I said that yesterday.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Let her rock my bad life, Jennings.

[DJ Envy]

That's all she got right to it.

[Nyla]

All right, so we get out of here. Make sure you get your messy visions. The one I'm wearing right now is called the City Girl, so period, messy vision eyewear.com. if you use the promo code Wake wake, you'll get 20 off. Thank you all. Y' all helped me sell out the OMGs yesterday and help me sell out these city girls.

[DJ Envy]

You know what you. You should do? You should have somebody come to all your shows, because you get hundreds and thousands of people at your shows right at the front. Do the merch. Boom. Because that way, that way, I ain't got to order online. I come see you, I leave with some. Some glasses.

[Nyla]

But you know what's crazy? At Salsa Confuego last week, it was three. Three of three of my fans in the audience with Messy Vision. So, yes, they listen. They be reallying for me.

[DJ Envy]

Okay.

[Nyla]

But yeah, sure, right. I should look into that.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You should definitely do that.

[Nyla]

But until then, in. Get to the website www.messywear.com.

[DJ Envy]

All right, Charlemagne, who you giving your donkey to, man?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We need Fox News host Dana Perino to come to the front of the congregation. We would like to have a word with her, please.

[DJ Envy]

All right, we'll get to that. Next. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This is America. There is no question that there are problems in this country between police and community. Yes, you are a donkey.

[Caller/Listener]

The latest on that police killing of a black man.

[Nyla]

Now to new developments in the deadly spa shooting rampage.

[Caller/Listener]

And yesterday was a really bad day.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

For him, and this is what he did.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And so we are in a state of emergency, okay?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

White supremacist violence is and always has been the number one threat to our society.

[Joey Badass]

But I'm also very proud that my wife is white.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

To the Breakfast Club, bitches.

[Nyla]

All right, Charlene, please tell me, why.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Was I your donkey of the day? Listen, donkey of the day for Tuesday, August 19th goes to Friday Fox News host Dana Perino. Okay? There is something going on in the Democratic Party that I actually like, and I haven't liked a lot of things this person has done because a lot of things he's done have seemed very inauthentic, okay? Very fake. I'm talking about California Governor Gavin Newsom. Now, I have given Gavin credit for being ahead of the curve in regards to having his own platform. Okay? He launched the podcast with iHeart called Politicking last summer, and his co hosts were Marshawn lynch and an agent by the name of Doug Hendricks Nixon. I enjoyed it. I thought that he was able to speak politics in a very digestible way. And Marshawn kept Gavin's boots on the ground and didn't let him speak over people's heads. I thought it was very impactful. And then Gavin Newsom launched another podcast called this Is Gavin Newsome, also with I Heart. And I didn't like that podcast, okay? Nope. Okay. I like the concept. All right? He said he wanted to have conversations with people that he agrees and disagrees with, which I'm awful. Okay? He had Steve Bannon on Charlie Kirk. Those two episodes didn't move me, so I didn't care to revisit. All right? The reason I didn't care to revisit is because I expected more from a governor, okay? In regards to pushback on people like Charlie Kirk and Steve Bannon, it felt like he was just sucking their kneecaps and licking their boots. I didn't like it. But let me tell you something. Gavin Newsom, for the past week and some change, has been doing what I've wanted a Democrat to do for a long time. Okay? See, Michelle Obama once said, when they go low, we go high, high. And your Uncle Charlotte has never agreed with that. Okay. When they go low, either you ignore them and mind your business. They doing the work, or when they go low, you go to hell. Okay? And Gavin Newsom, over the last week and a half, has been going to hell with the Trump administration. Not even really going to hell, just matching energy. And I like it. Would you like to hear what he's been doing? Let's go to MSNBC News for the report, please. Since Donald Trump returned to office, his.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Feud with California Governor Gavin Newsom Newsom.

[Nyla]

Has intensified from social media through the courts. First, it started with Trump launching federal agents, often fully masked and disguised, to lead ICE raids across communities and workplaces in California. Then it escalated when Trump sent the National Guard and Marines into LA to go after protesters. So today, Newsom, like a true Internet troll, took directly to social media and started speaking Trump's language. He blasted out the following in Trumpian, all kinds of. When Speaker Little Man Johnson is standing in the unemployment line, he can thank Donald Taco J. Trump. Trump missed a simple deadline, something he has often done with his many failed businesses. Now California will fire him with new, more beautiful maps. Highly anticipated historic press conference with your favorite governor, Gavin Christopher Newsom. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Somebody has been reading the 48 Laws of Power. Okay? Law 44, Disarm and Infuriate with the mirror effect. And, oh, people like Dana Perino on Fox are absolutely infuriated. Would you like to hear what she had to say about Gavin's tweets? Let's listen.

[Nyla]

The other thing for me is that for the last week, Gavin Newsom and why am I giving him a. You have to stop it with the Twitter thing. I don't know where his wife is. If I were his wife, I would say you are making a fool of yourself. Stop it. Do not let your staff tweet. And if you're doing it yourself, put the phone away and start over. And if you want, he's got a big job as governor of California, but if he wants an even bigger job, he has to be a little bit more serious.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Dana, have you ever told the 45th and 47th President of the United States of America to stop. Have you ever told the 45th and 47th President of the United States of America that they need to be more serious? Have you ever asked where the 45th and 47th President of the United States of America's wife, First Lady Melania Trump, is? You do realize Governor Gavin Newsom is biting Donald Trump's whole flow, word for word, bar for bar. It is A deliberate imitation of Donald Trump's nut ass social media style. Okay, law 44. 4 and the 48 laws of power disarm and infuriate with the mirror effect. Okay? Do you understand what the mirror effect is? It's when you are mirroring an opponent's actions or words. It can be a powerful tool for deception and manipulation. Okay? By reflecting their behavior, you can confuse them, make them overreact and ultimately gain the upper hand. This law, Law 44 and the 48 laws of power highlights the seductive nature of mirror, exploiting the human tendency towards narcissism and a desire to be reflected. It's brilliant. Okay, Fox News. You would be better off saying it's time for all of this type of foolishness to stop. You would be better off saying we really don't like it from President Trump. And this isn't something to be imitated, but to act like. It's cool when Trump do it, but it's a problem when Gavin does it. Knock it off. Okay? The hypocrisy is disgusting. I don't know this guy's name, but he was on Tracy Gallagher show on Fox. Let's listen to him.

[Joey Badass]

Gavin Newsom, meantime, posting this on X. Liz, using all capitals, of course, trying to mock Trump, use Trump style. Has been doing this for a while now. He says, quoting Trump, Trump just fled the podium with Putin. No questions, nothing. Total low energy. The man looked like he'd just eaten three buckets of KFC with Vlad. Admit it, Donny J, you're terrified because this was the worst week of your life. Because of me. Gavin C. Newsom. I think he's trying to be funny.

[Nyla]

I think, I mean, I don't know.

[Joey Badass]

What he's trying to do, but. But it comes across as childish. And what are you, the governor of the biggest state in the union?

[DJ Envy]

What are you doing?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Honestly, I feel like he's trying so.

[Nyla]

Hard to be Trump, but he's coming off like Kanye West.

[Lauren LaRosa]

He seems absolutely insane.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Once again, the hypocrisy is disgusting. We've been watching President Trump have his way for almost, almost a decade now. Okay? Gavin Newsom gives you a week of your own medicine and y' all become these fragile ass snowflakes. I love it. Okay. Salute to Camille Zapata. I think that's her name. Dropping the clues. Bombs for Camille Zapata. That's who I heard is behind Gavin Newsom. Social media. I don't know if it was your idea to incorporate the mirror effect, but bravo, bravo. The mirror effect. Law 44 is brilliant. When someone sees their own, their own actions reflected back at them, especially by an adversary, it can be deeply unsettling and even infuriating. And this can lead to overreactions and strategic errors. I love it. Now, Gavin Newsome has explained why he's tweeting exactly like Donald Trump. Let's listen.

[Nyla]

What's going on with those posts on.

[Morgan Wood]

X that are clearly trolling the President?

[Nyla]

Just talk about that.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Is that like a strategy?

[Joey Badass]

I hope it's a wake up call. The President in the United States, I'm sort of following his example. If you've got issues with what I'm putting out, you sure as hell should have concerns about what he's putting out as president. So to the extent it's gotten some attention, I'm pleased. But I think the deeper question is how have we allowed the normalization of his tweets through social posts over the course of last many years to go without similar scrutiny and notice?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's just that simple. If you are concerned about what Governor Gavin Newsom is putting out, then you should be more concerned about what the President of the United States of America is putting out and how his tweets have become so normalized. Okay, Fox News the Five, Jesse Waters, Dana Perino, can you discuss that? Just discuss what we just heard Gavin Newsom say. Answer that question. How have we allowed allowed the normalization of President Trump's social media posts? And how come they're not getting the same scrutiny you are currently giving Governor Gavin Newsom? Please let Chelsea Handler give Dana Perino and every other conservative talking head hypocrite.

[DJ Envy]

The biggest hee haw, hee haw, hee haw.

[Nyla]

That is way too much, Dan Mayonnaise.

[DJ Envy]

All right, all right. Well, thank you for that donkey today, sir.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, man.

[DJ Envy]

Now, let's open up the phone lines. 800-585-1051. Now, a mother is facing backlash because she was dropping her two kids to school.

[Nyla]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

And while she was dropping her two kids to school, she was wearing a towel wrapped around her head, a bathrobe, and some flip flops. And people are saying this is a little disrespectful. You should get dressed when you take your kids to school.

[Nyla]

Absolutely. Like I'm. Listen, I understand you waking up late, you trying to get yo, you can snatch the towel off your head, you can find a hair hat, you can find a pair of leggings, a pair of shorts, throwing a T shirt, big T shirt like yo, a, a bathrobe, looking like you fresh out the bathroom with A towel on your head. At least a damn bonnet, which is even just. I. I don't even like having on bonnets, taking my kids to school. But I'm just saying, like, you wore.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

A silk scarf to blast the breakfast. And did.

[Nyla]

And did. Yeah, it was a scarf. It wasn't a bonnet or tail. Okay, Period. But. And then for me, it's just the other people commenting, like, supporting this, like, at least she's walking him to school. My mother was hungover every morning for being in the bar car the night before. I had to. And I had to walk myself to school. She got her babies to school. That's all that matters. Cut the bs. Cut it out. No, we should be presentable at all times. Even if you ain't. You ain't gotta walk in like Annalise Keaton, but God damn, you can wear. I'm talking about nightgown and the leggings. Leggings with a hoodie. Something. This is trash. This is crazy. And you're embarrassing your kids.

[DJ Envy]

Let's open up the phone lines. Let's discuss 800-585-1051.

[Joey Badass]

I.

[DJ Envy]

What?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What the hell was that?

[DJ Envy]

What the hell was that?

[Nyla]

I'm mad about it.

[DJ Envy]

5851051. We'll put it on the Breakfast Club page so you can see exactly the video that they're talking about. Many people reposted it, but that way you can see what we're talking about.

[Nyla]

What if the. What if one of the kids classmates is like your mother dirty like. You know how kids are.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

These little kids, though, they don't know what's going on. Please, not these little kids.

[Nyla]

They look like they one look like.

[DJ Envy]

She'S about seven, eight.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No.

[Nyla]

So they definitely look like she could fight, so. Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What?

[Nyla]

Yes. You know how they had a ponytail? I used to have the same ponytail when I could fight.

[DJ Envy]

Okay, yes.

[Nyla]

But you. You putting your kids through it.

[DJ Envy]

I agree. 800-58514.

[Nyla]

Goodbye.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Bedroom. Yeah, giving it up.

[DJ Envy]

What's wrong with you? You're looking at the back.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Get at the back.

[DJ Envy]

Let's discuss. It's the Breakfast Club.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[DJ Envy]

Pull out your phone.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[DJ Envy]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[DJ Envy]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

Discussion with the Breakfast Club.

[DJ Envy]

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious Charlamagne. The guy. We are the Breakfast Club. If you're Just joining us, we're talking about something that was I seen on social media yesterday. A mother was facing backlash for wearing a robe and a towel wrapped around her head to drop off her kids at school. Now, are people overreacting about the video, or do you think it's just foul?

[Nyla]

I think it's foul. I don't think people are overreacting. You know, and then for the people, like, basically, like. Like awarding her for walking her kids to school, that's what you supposed to do. Yo, like, you stop making it seem like, like, task that we're supposed to do. We get rewarded for it. No, you're supposed to take your kids to school. I get it. They made it there. Yeah, it's some. Some parents that are trifling who don't care about their kids getting to school, but definitely be presentable. Yo, kids are so cruel. And I just never want to put my kid in a predicament, right, where they have to verbally retaliate to somebody or physically retaliate to somebody because of something that I've done. You know what I mean?

[DJ Envy]

You know, I'm with you. At the end of the day, you want to look presentable for your kids. You want to look presentable for the teachers that's there. You want to look presentable for yourself. Like you said, you don't want your kids to be made fun of. And also, it's nothing to throw on a sweatsuit.

[Nyla]

No, nothing.

[DJ Envy]

It's nothing to throw on a quick T shirt and some quick leggings or whatever it may be. Whatever it may be to get to work. Now, I will say you're also talking to somebody that don't take their kids to school in the morning sometimes. And I know they be rushing, but it's nothing to throw on a sweatsuit.

[Nyla]

Nothing, in my opinion. Nothing at all. A little hat, tie, a scarf, arranged. I mean, I'm talking about you. Look, yo, it's like she hopped out the shower and was like, all right, let's go. A towel. I've never even seen nobody with a towel on their head outside. You know, some of the people around New York that be sleeping outside, but not. Not like nobody pulling up to the school charlamagne.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, it's interesting, right? I don't necessarily disagree with anything that I'm hearing in the room right now. I just. I don't know if I can judge her like this because I don't know what's going on in her life for me to form an opinion on why she decided to pop out like this. Because being a mother is hard. And if this woman, absolutely this woman had to pop out like this, it's serious. I'm looking at it and it's like time must have been of the essence, you know, like. Because it's not even just a role, like you said, it's the towel over the head. Like she just washed her hair, like she got somewhere to be. But she. These kids can't be late either. You know what I mean?

[DJ Envy]

Which I respect. Kids late. They don't ever want to be late. Right. But the whole. Think you could have thrown a sweatsuit, bro?

[Nyla]

You didn't miss 30 more seconds.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know. That's what I'm saying. I don't know. I really don't know. That's what I'm saying. Like something had to be going on for her to pop out like this.

[DJ Envy]

Well, let's go to the line. We got Tony on the line. Tony, good morning cuz.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The kids is ready?

[Nyla]

Absolutely.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The kids is ready. Absolutely.

[DJ Envy]

New backpacks. The kids are fresh. Hello, who's this?

[Caller/Listener]

This is Tony from Houston.

[DJ Envy]

Tony from H town. Talk to us, what's your thoughts?

[Caller/Listener]

So I kind of look at. I think sometime as most we have to give grace and mercury. See, just because I know I'm a mother, I'm driving my daughter to school right now. She feel embarrassed because I called in on this.

[Nyla]

See how we be just doing nothing and embarrassing them kids. But I just look at if it's.

[Caller/Listener]

If this her first morning doing it. Let's just give her grace and mercy. Maybe she was tired last night, she got a shower trying to drop them kids off at school and go to work. Let's just not be quick to judge the photo.

[Nyla]

We don't know the backstory.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's all I'm. That's exactly what I just said. It's hard for me to judge my her cuz I don't know what caused her to do this, but a bathrobe, Tony.

[Nyla]

And a towel on the head. I know, I know, I know. Unless it was like you said.

[DJ Envy]

Unless it's something to the extreme like we don't know. The house caught on fire. This is all she had on fire. Anything.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Her boyfriend destroyed her clothes.

[Nyla]

Trying to figure out what the problem is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The house caught on fire.

[DJ Envy]

I don't know. You know you only got a bathroom.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All I know is I know I.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Hopefully she got something underneath there.

[Nyla]

But I'mma give a grace and mercy on this one.

[Caller/Listener]

Just because I know some mornings it Be tough.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what I'm saying. It's one of them ones that she might pop up online later, crying with the snot bubble and tell y' all a really deep story, and you'd be like, damn, I get it. But y' all done jumped out. But not.

[DJ Envy]

But not even pajamas, though.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, if.

[DJ Envy]

If it was PJs.

[Nyla]

And then you got to also understand, too, right. Sometimes when this happened, it's just literally what they're used to. Like, something ain't got to be going on all the time. When you see stuff like that, man, I. I am.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

True.

[Nyla]

But we don't know a city, like. And you said, man, what? Like, this is what.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Don't compare Baltimore to everybody else.

[Nyla]

Where that's at.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What, Baltimore?

[Nyla]

No, where is that at?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Baltimore.

[Nyla]

No, it's not.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, it is. Shut up.

[Nyla]

But I'm saying this happens everywhere sometimes. Sometimes you got mothers that just don't care. They care more about getting their kids to school than themselves. Yeah, I'm not gonna lie.

[DJ Envy]

Cause if this is my mother, my mother, I wouldn't went to school that day. And if my mother only had a bathrobe, y' all ain't going to school either.

[Nyla]

Exactly. I'm not saying that this mother's not going through anything, but a lot of times mothers don't be going through nothing. A lot of times this is just to get the kids out the house so they can go back home and lay down.

[DJ Envy]

Hello? Who's this?

[Caller/Listener]

This is Jaylen from Houston, Texas. I love y' all show.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Hey, Jaylin.

[DJ Envy]

What's up, Jaylen?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Caller/Listener]

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[Caller/Listener]

I feel like I don't agree with it. Like, coming out the house with your robe on and, you know, whatever rap like this. I know you had on a scarf girl, but. But the bonnets and all that. Nah, nah, we can't do that. I mean, we gotta set an example for the little ones and for the youngsters, you know?

[Nyla]

Exactly.

[DJ Envy]

But I'm not gonna lie. I done picked up my kids in.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Pajama pants before, though.

[Nyla]

Yeah, I. Pajama pants.

[Caller/Listener]

Envy. Envy. You can't do that. The fellas. This applies to fellas, too, you know, we can't go up in there with little white beaters on and pajam jam. Cause then when our kids go to church, we mad cause they not dressed right. Or we gotta put an example.

[DJ Envy]

Because there's been a time before my wife was like, yo, you got to grab the kids. And I was taking my nap, and I didn't have. I just ran out the crib. T shirt, pajama pants. But it was pajama pants.

[Nyla]

But you. Oh, you have a.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He said, hold on.

[Caller/Listener]

Just stay in the car next time and be staying.

[Nyla]

Yes. All these damn clothes you got, you couldn't grab a pair of sweatpants?

[DJ Envy]

I didn't want to leave the kids outside, so I just jetted in the car and took off.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I also think it's very corny that somebody recorded her. Like, I'm watching the video now.

[Caller/Listener]

Okay, now that's corny.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's corny, man. Like, you don't know people be going through. And now this woman is getting, you know, like, crucified online. Thank you, J. I ain't going front, though.

[Caller/Listener]

Thank y'. All.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I love y'. All.

[DJ Envy]

So, honey, she got two kids.

[Nyla]

Goodbye.

[Caller/Listener]

I teach theater and actually charlamagne. The guy came to visit my school Prayer University a few years ago.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So, yeah, I've been there a couple of times. I had a couple of. I had a couple of book events that. For my first book and my second book.

[DJ Envy]

That's right. Comes right in the back door.

[Caller/Listener]

Jaylen.

[Joey Badass]

Yes.

[DJ Envy]

Thank him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Y' all so homophobic for no reason. You know what? You know? And God sees you.

[DJ Envy]

God see me what?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And God sees you. That's why. That's why you got to wear dye all in your bed now. That's why you and Fat Joe got to rewind the time. You know what I mean?

[DJ Envy]

I don't rewind the time. Mine is a little better. It's just for men, period. Period.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Love it.805, I like how she looking to roll now. I ain't going to lie. Shut up, man.

[DJ Envy]

But you know, somebody might have taped that to put in their group chat. Be like, look at this.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And then that's what I'm thinking.

[Nyla]

She definitely is giving. See, I'm telling you, it's like.

[DJ Envy]

All right, now, if he's just joining us, we're talking about this mom on social media. She's facing backlash. She was taking her two kids to school and she was wearing a robe and a towel wrapped around her head. Looked like she just got out the shower. Fresh out the shower, and she's getting backlash for it. Jess said, enough's enough. Put some clothes on.

[Nyla]

Yes, that's why I say it.

[DJ Envy]

Charlemagne said, well, we don't know the circumstances.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, I just don't know. I mean, I, I, I, I understand what all of y' all are saying. Walking out outside in a bathrobe in a towel is crazy, right? But I just don't know what's going on in her life for her to have to do that. Like, I don't feel like that's something she does on the regular. But I don't know. Cuz them kids is put together.

[DJ Envy]

Kids are fresh.

[Lauren LaRosa]

They are.

[Nyla]

Yes, they are.

[DJ Envy]

Hello, who's this?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Good morning.

[Caller/Listener]

This is Keith from Long Island. How are you?

[DJ Envy]

What's up, Long Island? Talk to us. What's she doing?

[Caller/Listener]

Well, prior, when I just spoke to the gentleman before, I didn't see the video, but I'm looking at the video and I personally think that your kids are representation of you. Her kids look decent. Her role was not too provocative. I mean, there's times where I was.

[Nyla]

Running behind and I mean, I may.

[Caller/Listener]

Not have walked my kid up to school, but I've driven them to school like that. So I don't think there's anything wrong with the way that she brought her kids to school. Her kids look presentable, you know, they dress nicely like.

[Nyla]

And at the end of the day.

[Caller/Listener]

They represent who she is.

[Nyla]

And they looking pretty good.

[Caller/Listener]

They're looking sharp.

[Nyla]

Yeah, the kids do look good.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think it's the towel more so than the robe.

[Nyla]

Than the robe. Right. And look. But I was gonna say the other way around. I think it's the robe more so than the towel because there could be a lot of reasons. You got a towel on your head. Right?

[DJ Envy]

I think it's the robe. Cause she could have Just did.

[Nyla]

Her head could be wet and she didn't want to get, you know, get the morning air to hit it. It. You know, a sweatsuit with a towel on your head is way better than a robe and nothing on your head. A robe is not for outside.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I'm looking at the way the cheeks is sitting. Right. No, listen, seriously, Seriously. I think that she probably has on like some biker type shorts and like a tank top or something. So she didn't want to walk out like that. So she probably grabbed her robe to cover that up.

[Nyla]

Is just perfectly sitting, you know, on her back.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Probably. But I bet it's not like she got on a panties and bra under there, that rope. I guarantee you she probably got on like something else, something revealing like. But it's something you would wear around the house. Like a tank top. Yeah, our tank top and biker shorts. And she, she knew she couldn't pop out like that, so she just grabbed her robe real quick. Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Let's go to another caller. Hello, who's this?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Mango.

[DJ Envy]

Mango, what's up? Talk to us. What's your thoughts?

[Joey Badass]

Mama?

[Caller/Listener]

I'm glad that these schools are implementing.

[Nyla]

These rules where they're not allowing parents.

[Caller/Listener]

To show up with a hoochie coochie.

[Nyla]

Shorts and they buy on it to come.

[Caller/Listener]

Respectful.

[Nyla]

Out of respect for these kids and setting examples for these kids. I'm glad. That's nasty.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's not what she got on though. She got on a robe and a towel.

[Caller/Listener]

That's nothing up under there.

[Nyla]

You don't know what's under there.

[Caller/Listener]

If that road blow open like Maryland Monroe, then what?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Shoot, that would have made this video even better.

[Nyla]

Crazy. Now mind you, I. I have taken Ash to school before with bonnet. Not a toddler like bonnet. Something that I wouldn't be presentable in front of kids. I had that on. But he was also. I never got out the car. He was also big enough to get out the car and run into school himself.

[DJ Envy]

Well, let me ask you a question that's different. I just want to take it a step further. I've been noticing a lot in the last. I would say seven years, maybe 10 years. I've been seeing a lot, a lot of people wearing bonnets in the airport. Little Wearing bonnets in restaurants.

[Nyla]

That's right, in restaurants.

[Joey Badass]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Going out wearing the bonnets. What's your thoughts on that then?

[Nyla]

I do not like that in a restauran. Yeah. All right, now look, I have also been one to wear a bonnet when I got them 4am, 5am flights and I don't want to get up and do my edges and all of that stuff because then people take pictures or whatever. I rather people take a picture with me with a bonnet on this one. This one I ain't really handled. I just back in the day either. So it was like, dang, I had to, you know, get up early and just throw on a bonnet. But I never, ever went further than that. Just the bonnet. But I don't do that anymore since Monique scolded us for that. I. No, seriously, that was a whole thing I stopped doing. You have never seen. You have not seen Jess hilarious in a bonnet in the airport in a long ass time.

[DJ Envy]

Okay?

[Nyla]

But a restaurant is crazy. All right, but you know what she should have had on?

[DJ Envy]

What's that?

[Nyla]

Some glasses from messy vision.com to make the. The outfit better. And if she would have used the promo code wake, she could have got 20 off of the. The city girls.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Y' all have been killing it. If y' all saw her with them damn messy vision glasses on. Because y' all have been like, so you got time to put on your goddamn meshing glasses, but you ain't got time to put on a sweatsuit. Okay, yes.

[Nyla]

Because you could put prescription in these glasses. And what if she can't see? So she better have had time to grab them glasses on the way out.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What if that's the case that she thought that was a dress, not a robe? What if she thought that was a big hoodie?

[Nyla]

Okay, okay, okay. Goodbye.

[DJ Envy]

All right, now we got the latest with Lauren coming up, so don't go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club.

[Nyla]

Lauren becoming a straight fan.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She gets him from somebody that knows somebody. She gets the details.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She'd be having the latest on the Beast, the Latest with Lauren LaRosa. Sometimes you have facts, sometimes you have details. Sometimes you have a little bit of everything. But what's the latest on the Breakfast Club? Talk to me.

[Lauren LaRosa]

All right, y', all, so before we get started, I want. Want to take a second to send Mia J, who is young Dolph's wife, some love. Yesterday Monday, they started trial for the. The guy that they're calling the mastermind of everything that happened with the young Dolph of the young Dolph shooting. His name is Hernandez Goen. So all that is taking place. And of course, she's having to deal with this again in real time. And she posted to her Instagram a photo of Dolphin and one of their children and said, dear Lord God, may every hand seen and unseen, whether on the trial today or tomorrow, be held accountable for taking a look life that only you can give. May you cover our family in your hearts today, tomorrow, and forever. In Jesus name, Amen. And it says, justice for Dolph.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So long live Dolph. Man sending healing energy to his family always. I don't know why I thought that case was closed. I thought they.

[DJ Envy]

That was one more person. He's not the shooter.

[Joey Badass]

He was the driver.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Got you that.

[DJ Envy]

Decided to go all the way with it, but we'll see what happens.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, so I just wanted to send her some love. She watches the show. She always hit me about. About the clips and stuff, so. Wanted to do that.

[DJ Envy]

Yes, Good morning.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes. Now, changing gears, we're gonna head on over to a Nas and a Nas conversation. And I don't know why, and maybe y' all could tell me better. Why is Nas always the person that people want to debate about his legacy and his career but not.

[Nyla]

He liked it.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Maybe that's why, but I didn't know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It was a debate.

[Lauren LaRosa]

People always try to have this conversation about relevancy when it comes to Nas and how relevant he is or he isn't. And knowing the songs, not knowing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I've seen that in Reese. I mean, I only saw that once. Once with. With the. The little young boy was saying he liked Jim Jones better than Nas, but Nas is on the Mount Rushmore. Like, there's no debate about.

[DJ Envy]

Nas is definitely on the mountain. Probably one of the nicest lyrics he's in hip hop ever.

[Joey Badass]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He's that guy. He's one of them. He's one of them.

[Nyla]

One.

[DJ Envy]

Yes.

[Nyla]

I'm not.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm not arguing with you guys. I'm just saying I don't understand why people even like to toss up the conversation. But speaking of conversation, so Fabio, who's home now, he sat down with Jim Jones. Jim Jones has a platform that he's doing called ftc. It's like artist. Artist to artist, and he sits down and have these conversations, and Fabio's been dragged for one of his takes about Nas in the conversation. Let's take a listen.

[Joey Badass]

Well, look what I just went through with the. With the whole Nas situation like that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm gonna tell you why. No, let's not get. Let's. All right, let me just say one thing. I grew up with, like, Sosa, Gino.

[Joey Badass]

And I'm not saying that the man is wacky. He's not legend he named. Been out for. For years.

[DJ Envy]

Look at a song with them.

[Joey Badass]

But I can't sit there and say a Nas bar to you or a song. I like one mic or like a song, but I can't. Nas was my era. Like.

[DJ Envy]

Like, I came up when I.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, we knew.

[DJ Envy]

I. I know the N. Yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So people, of course, were pretty upset about the comments, and I will say maybe the. I don't know if it's like the tone, the demeanor or what, but I didn't think that he was dis and nice. I thought he was just being honest about not being able to name songs, but understanding that he's a legend. But conversation took a life of its own. Of course. Clips.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, can I say something real quick?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Go ahead.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't give a damn what Fabio foreign think about Nas. I don't care. Why not?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Just because it's Fabio.

[DJ Envy]

Fabio is 34 years old.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right.

[DJ Envy]

He didn't grow up on Nas. He grew up on his. He said his. He said his biggest influence was Chief.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Keef, and that's his opinion. There's nothing wrong with that.

[DJ Envy]

That was his era.

[Nyla]

You can tell what. Yeah. What errors. And you know, there are people that.

[DJ Envy]

That, you know, when you hear rappers, they'd be like, oh, I really wasn't into Jay Z.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You know?

[DJ Envy]

Know, I mean, they weren't in the big. Like, they weren't into certain people.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But that's fine. That's his opinion. But I don't care. Nas is solidified. Yes. Regardless of what FA for thinks about NAS. Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Wait, wait.

[Nyla]

It's.

[DJ Envy]

In 20 years from now, in 30 years from now, you'll still be hearing if I rule the world, y' all.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Not teaching me nothing. I just bringing the conversation here. I. I think my main point is, is why is it always nice? Cuz remember 21 savage, 21 savage. Savage had tried to make the comment about the relevancy and irrelevancy before too. And people had to come out and be like, it's Nas. What are we talking about right now? It is. They do. Between Nas and Jay Z. People like to do that as well.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know why? Because Nas and Jay Z are the bar. When you're the bar, people are always going to compare themselves to you like, you're the bar. I guess it's the reality of the situation. You're going to always be the person that somebody you know wants to make a comparison about because you're the bar.

[Nyla]

Like, I like change, Kingy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's exactly why I don't care about My Fabio, foreign thing. Exactly.

[Nyla]

What the whole era like, he Chameleonaire too. Definitely had his.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

By the way. You not lying. I'm not gonna sit there and act like Chingy and Chameleon. They didn't have a moment.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[Nyla]

Thank you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But there's a difference between moments relevancy and. And consistently classic legacy. Like, we acting like Nas didn't just put out King's Disease Voice, Volume 13 and 1 Grammy for that.

[Nyla]

You're right.

[DJ Envy]

Like, come on, we gotta stop. Like, this is stupid. Like, we're comparing paradise to a lot of these artists.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, come on, silly. At some point, we just gotta start selling. Some of this stuff is silly, but it's also people's opinion. Yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And I mean, the conversation was actually a good conversation with Jim and Fabio. And it's actually. It's IFC factory. It's the intellectual factory of content that Jim Jones is doing. He's producing a bunch of content, a bunch of different artists. He feels like media gets it wrong, so he's trying to get it right for artists like him. Now, in other news. Speaking.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Didn't get it right just now, but that's.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I don't think he said anything wrong. He was being honest.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's his opinion. Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

In other news, and by the way, he didn't dis Nas. He just says he. Jim was more. I guess he. He followed Jim and Chief Keith Mor. He followed Nas. He didn't dis Nas.

[Nyla]

Y' all remember J. Quan? Everybody in that club getting sexy.

[Lauren LaRosa]

What is it, Heat?

[Nyla]

What's the next story? Don't worry about it, cuz I'm sick every time I say something. Y. Y' all can't relate.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Shaboozi just made J. Quan a million plus. Probably.

[Lauren LaRosa]

They wasn't out in a tip. Well, I was going to just say. In other news, speaking of artists, Lil John is viral all over the.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

See, now you talking about some right now.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I saw this video yesterday and I. I didn't know Lil John so put together under the clothing. Envy. You about to go look at him?

[DJ Envy]

No.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Okay. I thought she was looking it up. I got the video for you. He's right here. I know you be in the gym. I mean, you be trying. You should link with bro, because he's doing very well. But this is not new. He's been posting content like this. There's another video of him. I think it's like a week or two.

[DJ Envy]

Been like this for years.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I did not know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Maybe started from the inside out because, you know, Little John is also really big on meditation. He actually put out a meditation album. I think it was like, maybe a year ago.

[DJ Envy]

He came up here.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, he wasn't.

[Nyla]

Did he come up here?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, he did not. L. John has never been up here. No.

[DJ Envy]

I could have sworn he came up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, you're wrong. I would love to have a conversation with L. John. Any opportunity I get to celebrate Lil John, I will. Because he is one of the most underrated, underappreciated, cultural hip hop figures ever.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It's called Total meditation. It came out in 2024. Yep.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Come on, man.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I did not know that he had that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And that's a genre. What you just saying that. That was you talking about people who had moments. Lil John, that had about a million of them.

[DJ Envy]

Little John was up there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Salute to Little John.

[DJ Envy]

We need you up here.

[Nyla]

He's done songs that I didn't even know. We were just talking about it behind the scenes. You what? What's something you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, the Capleton tour joint. You didn't know he did goodies?

[Nyla]

I did not know that he did goodies. What's the era?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He did do goodies, right?

[Nyla]

I had no idea.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But, you know, he did do goodies. He had a whole era did goodies. I don't know who did goodies.

[Lauren LaRosa]

That song by Little John, though.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I remember. I know. All I know is when you. When you talking about the era of crunk, the genre called crunk, Lil John was the face of it.

[Nyla]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Don't get me wrong, three six Mafia created it, but Little John took it to a whole nother level. Then you got Snap music, then you got some club records, like shot shot shots and turned down. And when you just talk about personalities, dude. Top five hip hop personality of all time, man.

[DJ Envy]

Come on, man, get low.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

When you can be sports by Dave Chappelle. And when you're a top five personality of all time.

[Nyla]

Yes.

[DJ Envy]

Blow the whistle.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Shake that monkey.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I did not know he was a part of this.

[Nyla]

I never heard no damn. Shake that monkey.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Now.

[Nyla]

Calm down in here.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What would you shake that monkey and racist. Just when you came that just now.

[Nyla]

Someone blow it with. Someone shake a monkey.

[DJ Envy]

What is he talking about?

[Lauren LaRosa]

I need to spend more time on Lil John's Instagram because all I know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Is Lil John is one of the most underrated, underappreciated, cultural hip hop figures ever. We should all be celebrating Little John, okay?

[DJ Envy]

And the fact that Little John has never been up here really pisses me off. Now, Little John John, if you're listening.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Look yes, he got. I know you've been trying to figure your arms out. Little John has it figured out.

[Nyla]

Look at that video. He sure did.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I did. I got to spend more time on his Instagram. I had no idea. He's doing yoga and everything.

[DJ Envy]

Little John's dress look dope too. He got.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I appreciate it.

[DJ Envy]

Speak to him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What?

[DJ Envy]

What? What?

[Nyla]

He said l. Jo hair look better than yours.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nobody said that. Nobody said. Nobody said stop.

[Nyla]

And he in the jam.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Girl, by the way, the reason I really don't mind Lauren Head, cuz I grew up off Little John. So being in the club back in the day and everybody used to get crunk and be sweaty and then the head. You know what I'm saying? The head would get all smelly. That reminds you of right there, right?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Okay.

[Nyla]

The girl is never sweaty. Let's stop, huh?

[Joey Badass]

What?

[Nyla]

Lauren is never sweaty.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You said that?

[Joey Badass]

No.

[Nyla]

How'd she go from ashy to sweaty?

[Lauren LaRosa]

You know what I mean? It's just all in the mix.

[DJ Envy]

What's the latest with Lauren? All right, People's choice mixes. Up next is the Breakfast Club. Good morning, everybody.

[Nyla]

It's DJ Envy.

[DJ Envy]

Just hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Now we gotta salute Joey Badass for joining us this morning.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Salute to Joy Badass, man. Make sure you take. Check out his new album, It's Lonely at the top. Comes out August 29th. But he got so much acting roles next Friday.

[Nyla]

Yep, yep, yep.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah. So salute to Joey Badass.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And we were talking about Little John earlier. The icon, Little John. Little John did produce Sierra Goodies.

[Nyla]

I love it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Nyla]

I did not even know that he did produce here.

[DJ Envy]

His voice is on it right in the beginning of it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right?

[Nyla]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I just couldn't.

[Nyla]

Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The man has produced so much. Petey, Pablo, Raise up. No, that was Timber Papaland. He did Freedom frequently.

[DJ Envy]

Frequently. Frequently.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He did.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He definitely did. Us.

[Nyla]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Lovers and friends. Absolutely. I mean, Little John is a. I. We do not celebrate Little John enough. To me, he is the absolute, positively most underrated, underappreciated producer and cultural hip hop figure probably ever, bro.

[Nyla]

Here he.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm telling you, this man is like. He's like Lil John. Different, man. Little John gave us a whole era.

[DJ Envy]

Sure did a whole job, man.

[Nyla]

Yeah, man.

[DJ Envy]

It's time to get up out of here. Your messy visions.

[Nyla]

Yes, my messy visions, y'. All, listen, I love all the Breakfast Club listeners because what y' all allowed me to do was sell out of the OMG glasses that I wore yesterday. I told Y' all to use the promo code W A K E, which is wake and y' all help me sell out. So I'm wearing the City Girls. That is the extended version of the OMGs. And I know y' all love them. They are are these cute little ombre glasses y' all can get on the website messy vision eyewear.com. we will be having a 20% off sale for the rest of the month. I love you guys. Thank you so much. And also Baltimore your is coming home September 5th, 6th and 7th. I'm doing Friday, Saturday and Sunday, y', all at the Baltimore Comedy Factory. Me and my brother, Desi Alexander. So get your tickets if you haven't yet. Just hilarious official dot com. Love you, y'.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All.

[Nyla]

And if you show up to the show with a pair of messy visions on, you still gotta pay. Love y' all so much.

[DJ Envy]

All right, you got a positive note.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. And I want to tell people, man, make sure you go pick up the Black Family who Built america by Cheryl McKissick. Daniel. It is available everywhere. You buy books now if you want a good history lesson and you want to read about somebody who is real life, real live black history. Right now, it's Cheryl McKissick. So go pick up her book, the Black Family who Built America. Now, the positive note is simply, simply this. It's about respect, okay? Respect for ourselves guides our morals. Respect for others guides our manners. But the key word is respect. Have a great day, Breakfast Club bitches.

[DJ Envy]

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[DJ Envy]

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