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INTERVIEW: BG Talks Cash Money Records, Verzuz, 'Freedom Of Speech' Documentary, Fatherhood, Forgiveness + More
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Charlamagne tha God
This is an iHeart podcast.
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BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Wednesday at 10, 9 Central on BET.
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DJ Envy
An all new episode of 106 in.
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BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Sports from executive producers LeBron James and Maverick Carter. It's a new top five countdown with hosts Ashley Nicole Moss and Cam Newton.
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DJ Envy
They're breaking down the top moments in.
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BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Sports, culture and entertainment and highlighting both established pros and the stars on the come up.
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DJ Envy
Watch the all new series 106 in.
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BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Sports Wednesday at 10, 9 Central on BET or catch up the next day on BET.
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Podcast Narrators/Hosts (Various)
The murder of an 18 year old girl in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved for years until a local housewife, a journalist and a handful of girls came forward with a story.
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BG (Christopher Dorsey)
America, y' all better wake the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns.
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Podcast Narrators/Hosts (Various)
Listen to Graves county on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and to binge the entire season ad free. Subscribe to Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Hunter, host of Hunting for Answers on the Black Effect Podcast Network. Join me every weekday as I share bite sized stories of missing and murdered women and girls in America. Stories like Erica Hunt, a young mother vanished without a trace after a family gathering on 4th of July weekend 2016. No goodbyes, no clues, just gone. Listen to Hunting for Answers every weekday on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. In early 1988, federal agents raced to track down the gang they suspect of importing millions of dollars worth of heroin into New York from Asia.
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BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Had 30 agents ready to go with shotguns and rifles and you name it. Five, six white people pushed me in the car. I'm going, what the hell?
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DJ Envy
Basically, your stay at home moms were.
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BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Picking up these large amounts of heroin. All you gotta do is receive the package. Don't have to open it, just accept it.
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DJ Envy
She was very upset, crying.
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BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Once I saw the gun, I tried to take his hand and I saw the flash of light.
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Podcast Narrators/Hosts (Various)
Listen to the Chinatown sting on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or anywhere you get your podcasts.
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BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Hold up.
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DJ Envy
Every day I wake up.
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BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Wake your ass up. The Breakfast Club. Y' all finished or y' all done?
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DJ Envy
Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. Yes, indeed. B.G. welcome home, man. Welcome back, brother.
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BG (Christopher Dorsey)
How you feel, man? I'm. I'm feeling good, man. Like I'm. I'm blessed, man. You heard my can't complain Man, I'm. I'm good, man. I'm good.
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DJ Envy
Good to see you, brother. Fresh off the verses. That's right.
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BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Yeah, man. Fresh off the verses. It was. It was incredible, man. Like, it was. It was a good moment, man. Like, something like that couldn't have happened, you know, 20 years ago, you know what I mean? Like, so, you know, for all us to be on stage, you know, at the same time, and it just be, you know, love and fun and. You know what I mean? Like, for us to just give it, you know, to the people and what they've been asking for. How bad was that beef, though?
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DJ Envy
How quick? I want to say, your energy. Your energy was very infectious on that stage because you sold New Orleans. So for me, when I'm watching you on that stage, I'm just watching you celebrate the city. I'm watching even when no living music was coming on.
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BG (Christopher Dorsey)
You was like, facts. I couldn't help myself, you know what I mean? I couldn't help myself, man. Cause I'm a fan, you know what I'm saying? I'm a fan of Mac, I'm a fan of MIA I'm a fan of Fiend. Like, you know, Soldier Slim. That's my brother, Free C Murder. Like, you know, So I just was. I just was in the moment, man. You know what I mean? Like, you know, even though we was battling, like, it was certain records that came on where I just couldn't help.
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DJ Envy
Myself, you know what I mean?
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BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Like, for real.
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DJ Envy
For real. But how bad was the beef? Cause, you know, I'm from. From New York. He's from South Carolina. So how bad was it? Because people were saying, like, they didn't. They never thought it could happen.
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BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, back in the days, man, like, you know, that. That. That magnolia, you know, Calio beef was. Was real, you know what I'm saying? It was. It was. It was really real, man. And I don't want to, you know, just go into, you know, the. The specifics. The specifics of it, right? But, you know, it's. You know what I'm saying? There's some people that die, right? You know what I'm saying? On both sides or whatever, you know what I mean? But, yeah, man, it is what it is, man. You know what I mean? And, you know, for us to be able to come together, you know, after all this time and make that happen, and then, not only that, man, like, you know, they didn't reached out to us for the no Limit Cash Money tour, man, you know, What I'm saying, you know, like, man, we. I'm. Man, let's check bag.
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DJ Envy
Yeah, I heard they gonna. I heard about a documentary explaining the Calio Magnolia.
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BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Absolutely, absolutely, absolutely. Like, it's a lot of opportunities that presented itself. But, yeah, I was on the phone with the, With. With AG Yesterday, you know what I'm saying? Talking about, you know what I mean, a bag and. Yeah, like, we gonna, we gonna close that out and make that happen.
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Charlamagne tha God
And the tour definitely gonna hit New Orleans. Because, you know, people was mad.
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BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nah, it was, but, you know, it's complex kind, right? You know what I mean? So, you know, I think if it would have been in New Orleans, it would have been. Yeah, it would have been.
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DJ Envy
Could it have happened, though? Because they were saying that it couldn't happen because maybe the violence.
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BG (Christopher Dorsey)
But I was like, nah, nah, nah. It would have been just as. It would have been just as fun and, you know, just as incredible as it was in Las Vegas, man. But I think, you know, that it should have been in New Orleans, but, you know, it happened. So now that they see, you know, that it could happen on a level to where it ain't no BS involved, you know what I mean? Now we could, you know, move on and make things happen on another level. So it's all good.
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DJ Envy
Why wasn't Wayne there? That's the question everybody wants.
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BG (Christopher Dorsey)
I talked to Wayne yesterday, man, and I talked to Wayne the morning before, right? You know what I mean? The morning before the verses. And, you know, Shorty wasn't feeling good, man. You know what I mean? So, you know. Cause he had a concert at Drez the same night, and he canceled that as well, you know what I mean? And Swizz was, you know, even hurt behind it, right? You know what I mean? Because for real, for real, you know, that's the reason Swizz pulled the trigger on it, you know what I mean? Because Wayne agreed.
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DJ Envy
Wayne orchestrated the whole thing.
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BG (Christopher Dorsey)
You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Come on. I mean, Shorty, you know what I'm saying? Shorty, you know Shorty here, right? You know what I'm saying? He got muscle, right? So. But yeah, man, I, I, I, I, I think it was, you know, short. It wasn't feeling good because he definitely was supposed to be there, you know what I mean? So, you know, he, he, he told me that, you know, he wasn't feeling good and, you know, he had to go to the hospital or something like that, you know what I mean? So, you know, people be thinking that it was, you know, whatever, whatever, whatever. But at the end of the day, like I told him, man, Wayne, spring chickens no more, man. You know what I mean? So, you know, you gotta make sure, man, your health and, you know what I'm saying, and all that, you know, get your rest, man. You've been running 30, 35 years strong. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So you gotta make sure, you know, you get your rest and, you know, make sure, you know what I'm saying? That show you nobody and help just all the wind tag or whatever, whatever. But yeah, it was, it was. I think that was the reason, you know, Short, it wasn't there. He was dealing with some personal issues.
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Charlamagne tha God
And we'll get to see Wayne on the tour, if the tour happens with no limit, that's when we'll get to see Wayne.
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BG (Christopher Dorsey)
I mean, you know, I can't answer that. You know what I mean? Like, I really can't answer that, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, Shorty B would be on with Shorty, be on, you know what I'm saying? So, you know, I would love to see him out there with us, you know what I'm saying? And on the tour. And, you know, I don't think, you know, that, that sure they'll turn on, you know, the bag that's on the table. But then, you know, them, they already rich forever, you know what I mean? I'm playing catch up, you know what I'm saying? So, you know, I'm trying to clock it all, you know what I'm saying? But yeah, man, we'll see. We'll see.
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DJ Envy
When you and Wayne were coming up and the reason I say you and Wayne, because I don't know if even people know, first time I got introduced to anything cash money related with baby gangsters.
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BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Not facts. Not facts.
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DJ Envy
And Wayne, when y' all were coming up, did y' all realize, man, this could be what it turned out to be?
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BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Absolutely not. Absolutely not. You know what I mean? Like, you know, we, we. We just was doing it for the love of the music, for real. Like, you know, at that point, we was kids, man, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, Wayne was 11, you know, I was 13, you know what I mean? Like, we couldn't see this for, you know what I'm saying? Like, we. We really couldn't see this for, you know, that was a vision, you know, that. That Baby and Slim had, you know what I mean? And, you know, they was, you know, trying to come out the streets, you know what I mean? And, you know, try something different. And you know what I'm saying, like, you know, change our lives, you know, through the music or whatever, whatever. But, you know, if I was to say that I saw, you know, us being who we became, like, you know. Nah, I didn't see that for.
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DJ Envy
Well, break down that vision because what did Baby and Slim see in each one of y'? All? Cause y' all were young. 10 years old, 11 years old, 12 years old. Juvenile was young, but really him and Wayne. That's why I keep saying. I want to stress that, because that brotherhood to me, is the foundation of casting.
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BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Yeah, that's a fact.
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DJ Envy
What did he see in y'? All? And how did he find y' all to say, this is the start?
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BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Well, you know, Baby and Slim knew my mama, right? You know what I mean? And, you know, I don't be wanting to, you know, put it out there like that or whatever, whatever. But, you know, my mama house was a stash house, like, way back in the G, you know what I'm saying?
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DJ Envy
Don't worry. There's enough time pass you give Mommy don't worry about you.
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BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Yeah. So you know what I'm saying, Like, you know, moms used to have bricks in the oven, you know what I'm saying? Like, for Baby and slim, like, way in. 88, 87, 88, 89, you know what I mean? So I knew Baby and Slim since I was, you know, in elementary school, you know what I mean? And then when I started, you know, writing raps and things of that nature, and they hadn't started cash money, like, what, 91, 92, you know what I mean? And. And they heard I was, you know, rapping or whatever. And my barber Stan called them, like, man, let talking, know what I'm saying? And they come to the barbershop and hold it, like, hold up, man. That's sensor like, you know what I'm saying? And I rap for him. And, you know, they put me in a car and brought me, you know, to my mom and was like, man, we gonna change his life, man. Like, you know, let us take. And my daddy had just got killed, you know what I'm saying? And, you know, I was out wild and, you know, I ain't had no guidance or whatever, whatever. So, you know, Baby and Slim took me under their wing and, you know, the rest history.
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DJ Envy
How did Wayne get in the picture?
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BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Wayne came into the picture. I think it was like, 90, 94, 95, man. Lil Slim, who was an artist on Cash Money Records, you know what I'm saying? At the time, man, you know, he. Yeah, he. He introduced, you know, Wayne to. To. To Cash Money and told Baby and Slim, you know, to check him out or what, you know, he came to Odyssey Records one time, we had an autograph signing or whatever, and Wayne spit some things to him, and then bam. Like, you know, Baby and Slim, you know, put me and Wayne together and formed a group called the bgs, which is the Baby Gangsters. And, you know, that was the first album, you know, that me and Wayne dropped together in, like, 1994. Nah, that was 94. That was 94. Yeah, 94. We came with the True Story album. It was me and Wayne, know what I mean? And then Rest in Peace to Rabbit, you know what I'm saying? Wayne's stepdaddy, you know what I'm saying, who ended up getting killed, you know, he wanted to start his own record label, you know what I mean? And he ended up taking Wayne, you know, from the label, you know what I'm saying, and was going to invest his own money in Wayne, and. And then he ended up getting killed, right? And then in, like, 96, you know, 97, you know, Ms. Ceta let Wayne come back, you know, to the label, and then that's when we formed the hot boys around me. Juvie, you know, Wayne and Turk, you know what I mean?
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DJ Envy
How did that brotherhood between you and Wayne, like, that brotherhood before the fame, how did that shape y' all as artists and as men.
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BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Man? Like, man, bro, we, man, me and Wayne used to be writing raps together in my mama kitchen, you know what I mean? Like, you know, baby, lock us in the house, you know, I'm talking about, like, he'll get manifest and make a beat and literally, you know, lock us in the house while they going out and run errands and stuff and make us, you know, write songs to this one beat, you know what I'm saying? And then, you know, he'll come back and listen to what we had and, you know, be like, that ain't it. That ain't it. That ain't it. And, you know, tear our raps up, like, but keep this. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, man, I'd be like, hey, just tore this my up. Like, I've been writing all day, you know what I'm saying? But he like. I mean, it was like military. It was like. It was like a military school, man. But created, you know, the. The. The. It created something. It created monsters, man. You Know what I'm saying? Like, you see what Wayne have became, you know what I mean? Like, you know, and. And, yeah, just. Just the work ethic, it created a work ethic that's just undeniable.
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DJ Envy
And Birdman was like a father figure to both of y'. All.
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BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Absolutely.
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DJ Envy
I've heard you call.
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BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Absolutely. No, absolutely, absolutely. He raised me, you know what I'm saying? Like, he. He. He pretty much raised me, man. Now I'm saying him and Slim, man, they raised me, man, from.
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DJ Envy
From.
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Podcast Narrators/Hosts (Various)
From.
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BG (Christopher Dorsey)
From. From 12 on up, man. Like, you know, I. I gotta give them all the credit, man. They. They raised me, man.
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DJ Envy
And that's why I, like. I like talking about cash money. Because, you know, of course, everybody knows what Wayne does. Everybody knows. But there's no cash money without bg.
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BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know. You know. You know, I mean, cash money was built on my back, man. You know what I mean? Like, when. When you think about it, you know, juvie first feature was on my Chopper City album. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, from, you know, BG. True story. Chopper City is all on you, volume one. It's all on you, volume two. You know, till we formed the Hot Boys in 97 with the get it how you live and, you know, so forth and so on with the soldier rags and this, that and the third. But, yeah, I was. I was. Yeah, yeah, I was him. I'm saying. Yeah.
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Charlamagne tha God
In the documentary, after all that, in the documentary, right, you talk about how hard it is to stay relevant while you're locked up in your way for the amount of time that you did. Did you think it was over for you while you were locked up?
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BG (Christopher Dorsey)
I did. I did. Like, when. When. When. When the judge gave me them 14 years. Like, you know, it's hard to stay relevant in this rap thing for a month, you know, six months, a year, you know what I'm saying?
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DJ Envy
If you ain't 14 years, not for a vicious or violent crime.
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BG (Christopher Dorsey)
I didn't get 14 years for a violent crime. You got a gun in the man. Guns and obstructing justice. I really got 10 years for the gun, 14 years for the obstructing justice. You know what I mean? But, you know, when I got them 14 years, I was like, damn, it's over. You know what I'm saying? My career, over it. Like, I couldn't see the end, you know what I mean? And then, you know, social media started popping and Instagram started popping, and, you know, it was ways to, you know, Stay relevant, you know, through social media. That really helped me, you know, stay in tune with the fans and things of that nature. And yeah, man, I'm back. And not only that, I was attached to a brand, you know, that stayed relevant, you knew, throughout that time. You know what I mean? Yeah, absolutely. Like, Stunner was there, like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, nah, Stunner was there, you know, Weezy was shouting me out and, you know, the whole gang or whatever, whatever. But if it wasn't for. If it wasn't, you know, for social media, who knows? You know what I mean? Like, because. Yeah, man. Yeah.
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DJ Envy
That's interesting you say that, though, because, you know, Jay Z once said, if everybody in your clique is rich, your click is rugged, nobody will fall because everybody will be each other's crutches. I would think, even with 14 years.
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BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Nah, Wayne.
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DJ Envy
I mean, Wayne became Wayne in those.
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BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Right, right, right.
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DJ Envy
Like, they was all still in the mix.
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BG (Christopher Dorsey)
They were still in the mix.
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DJ Envy
They would ever let you.
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BG (Christopher Dorsey)
And not. Not only that, though. Like, you know, at the end of the day, I can't tell my story without telling their story.
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DJ Envy
That's right.
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BG (Christopher Dorsey)
You know, juvie can't tell his story without telling my story. I can't tell his story, you know, without telling my story. So, you know, we all joined at the hip, whether we like it or not, you know what I mean? Like, our legacies are all, you know what I mean? Like. Like one. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, that I think that benefited me, too.
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DJ Envy
What do you think that era taught you about loyalty and ownership.
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BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Man? I mean, it taught me to be on your. Be on your yard, you know what I mean? Because, you know, it's a lot of things that I had to come home to, you know what I'm saying? That I had to fix you dig for us, you know, having people around me, you know, that was around me for all the wrong reasons and, you know, was doing things that, you know, I wasn't aware of. You know, they had me in situations that, you know, I didn't choose to be in, but, you know, they was doing crooked. You know how I go, man. You know what I mean? So it taught me a lot, man. And I'm on point now, man.
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DJ Envy
Now with your release, is it true that every lyric that you rap now or right now, you have to send for approval?
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BG (Christopher Dorsey)
So. So. So I definitely. So I have to turn it over to my podcast, you know what I mean? Like, they don't get the approve because when I first came home, when I did the album with Gucci Mane, when I first came home, me and Wap did a tape together, right? And they tried to violate me and send me back to jail for that, you know what I mean? And I was like, damn, what's up? I ain't did nothing but what I been doing, you know what I mean? So they were saying that they didn't want me doing nothing pertaining to entertainment or nothing pertaining to music that I could make money off of, you know what I mean? So it was like, damn. Like, yo, like, I don't. I didn't understand it, you know, and that's why I fought it exactly. Like, I've been doing this since I was 13 years old, like, and you trying to send me back to jail for just simply trying to make a living, you know what I mean? So the judge agreed with me and said it was a violation of my freedom of speech, you know what I mean? But she did say that I had to turn over the lyrics to my probation officer before I made them available to the public, you know what I mean? So I still. That sounds crazy, you know, have to turn my lyrics over to my probation officer before I make them available to the public. But she don't have to approve them or nothing. But I still be having to just, you know, be mindful of what I say and how I say it, you know what I mean?
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DJ Envy
Can they say, nah, you can't put this out commercially?
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BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Nah, they. I ain't gonna lie, though. They've been. They've been. They've been working with me. Like. They've been. They've been. They've been. They've been giving me. They've been. They've been giving me my. They've been giving me my space and letting me make it. And I got a good PO man, like. And I ain't got number, like, two months left, you know what I mean? I done done everything I'm supposed to do the right way, you know, I ain't feel no drug test. I didn't. Did all my. My community service, you know, I didn't completed all the programs, you know, that they, you know, wanted me to complete. Like, so everything is everything, man. And I'm. I'm grateful they want you to drop.
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DJ Envy
A gospel album, Ex.
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BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Hey, listen. Nah. Cause in the beginning, though, like, they didn't want me rapping about guns. They didn't want me rapping about snitches, you know? They didn't want me rapping about. I'm Talking about, you know, everything that I've made a living off, like, my whole career. Like, and I'm like, hold up. Like, I ain't the first one to rap about it. I ain't gonna be the last one to rap about it. Like, what you mean? You know, I can't rap about this, this, that, and the third. Like, come on. Like it's only entertainment. You know what I'm saying? Like, I ain't different from Denzel Washington playing Frank Lucas. Like, I'm Christopher Dorsey playing bg, Right? Like it's only entertainment. You see what I'm saying?
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DJ Envy
I wonder, do BG even still have to play that anymore? Because, I mean, you, you, you're a wiser man now.
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BG (Christopher Dorsey)
You're older.
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DJ Envy
You got a lot of life experiences, not facts. And you've always been, you know, vivid with the pen stories. So do you even have to lean into that anymore?
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BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Nah, not, not, not really. Like, I, I, I just. I just pretty much. I just pretty much tell my story, you know what I'm saying? And, you know, rap about what I see, rap about what I go through, rap about what I experience, and, you know, just try to keep it authentic, man, and try to keep it real, man.
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Charlamagne tha God
No, when you first. In the documentary, you talk about when you first came home and you tried to go to Vegas versus staying in New Orleans because you just knew it wasn't good for you. And they denied that at first.
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BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Yeah.
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Charlamagne tha God
And then you had that conversation with your prosecutor for two hours, but you don't tell us what the conversation really entailed in the documentary. So I'm wondering, like, you said, it went well, but, like, what was. What did you say to him or her? And what did they respond back with that got that approval?
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BG (Christopher Dorsey)
I mean, basically, you know, I just told him that, you know, I felt like my life was in jeopardy, you know, if I went back to New Orleans. Like, I felt like it wasn't safe for me, you know what I mean? And I told him that I needed a new start, you know what I mean? And I wanted a new start, you know what I'm saying? And I just didn't want to go back to the city, man. Like. Cause, you know, a lot of the dudes that I left was still out there doing the same things that I left him doing, you know what I'm saying? So, you know, I just wanted a fresh start, and he agreed with me. He agreed with me, and they gave me a pass and let me go, you know, start a new life in Vegas. So I went to Vegas and you know, and everything worked out for me.
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Charlamagne tha God
That should be common sense though, like if you're asking that, like, I don't know why.
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BG (Christopher Dorsey)
For real, for real. Because if I would have went back to New Orleans, I probably would be already back in jail. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, if I'd have went back to the city, you know what I mean? Like, if I'd have went back to the city, man, I already be back in jail right now, man, you know what I mean? Like, I, I couldn't go back to the city.
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DJ Envy
One thing I like about you too, you've always been open about your drug addiction. Did jail help you get clean?
- [24:43]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Nah, nah, absolutely. Because when I left, you know, I was a lean head, you know, I was a pill popping animal, like, you know, syrup sipping, you know, so how you couldn't reach me with antenna like, like on my Wayne, like. But yeah, not. I ain't the heroin since 2020, since 2000, 2003. Yeah, I'm saying. But you know, I had started popping pills and drinking lean in like 045, like when, when, when the hurricane hit, you know what I mean? So yeah, I didn't, I haven't done Heroin since like 2002, 2003. I kicked heroin, but then I picked up another opiate, you know what I'm saying? And you know that I learned that, that just was a substitute for that, you see what I'm saying? So yeah, man, jail definitely, you know, helped me, you know what I'm saying? Just shake that all the way, all the way, all the way.
- [25:42]
DJ Envy
Do you know what you might have been trying to escape when you was doing those drugs?
- [25:49]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Just, just, just, just, you know, man, it's a lot of pressure. You, it's a lot that come with, with this industry, you know what I'm saying? It's a lot that, you know, come with, you know, just the bills and you know, your family and you know, just trying to please everybody and, and just trying to mass, you know what I mean? Like certain things and, and, and it's just, it be an escape, man, for real, for real. Like, and, and that's where I was at with it, man.
- [26:22]
DJ Envy
What makes you feel whole now?
- [26:25]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Just, just, just living, you know what I'm saying? Just just really, for real, for real. Being freak, you know what I'm saying? Being free, you know, being happy and being alive, man. For real, for real, you know what I mean? Cause you know, I done lost a lot. I done lost a lot of good homies. Along the way. And.
- [26:47]
DJ Envy
All I know is what I've.
- [26:49]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Been told and that's a half truth.
- [26:51]
DJ Envy
Is a whole lie.
- [26:52]
Podcast Narrators/Hosts (Various)
For almost a decade, the murder of an 18 year old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved until a local homemaker, a journalist and a handful of girls came forward with a story.
- [27:08]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
I'm telling you, we know Quincy killed her.
- [27:11]
Podcast Narrators/Hosts (Various)
We know a story that law enforcement used to convict six people and that got the citizen investigator on national tv.
- [27:19]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky housewife helped give justice to Jessica Kern.
- [27:26]
Podcast Narrators/Hosts (Various)
My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist producer and I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find.
- [27:37]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
I did not know her and I did not kill her or rape or burn or any of that other stuff that y' all said. They literally made me say that I.
- [27:43]
Podcast Narrators/Hosts (Various)
Took a match and struck and threw it on her.
- [27:46]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
They made me say that I poured gas on her.
- [27:50]
Podcast Narrators/Hosts (Various)
From Lava for good. This is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame.
- [28:00]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
America, y' all better wake the hell up. Bad things happens to good people and small towns.
- [28:09]
Podcast Narrators/Hosts (Various)
Listen to Graves county in the Bone Valley feed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season ad free. Subscribe to Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Hunter, host of Hunting for Answers on the Black Effect Podcast Network. Join me every weekday as I share bite sized stories of missing and murdered black women and girls in America. There are several ways we can all do better at protecting black women. My contribution is shining a light on our missing sisters and amplifying their disregarded stories. Stories like Tameka Anderson. As she drove toward Galvez, she was in contact with several people talking on the phone as she made her way to what should have been a routine transaction. But Tameka never bought the car and she never returned home that day. One podcast, one mission. Save our girls. Join the search as we explore the chilling cases of missing and murdered black women and girls. Listen to Hunting for Answers every weekday on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [29:33]
DJ Envy
Hey there. I'm Kyle McLaughlin. You might know me as that guy.
- [29:36]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
From Twin Peaks, Sex and the City, or just the Internet's dad. I have a new podcast called what Are We Even Doing Doing? Where I embark on a noble quest to understand the brilliant chaos of youth culture.
- [29:49]
DJ Envy
Daddy's Looking good. Each week I invite someone fascinating to join me.
- [29:54]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Actors, musicians, creatives, highly evolved digital life forms. And we talk about what they love. Sometimes I'll drizzle honey in there too if I'm feeling sexy in the morning. What keeps them going?
- [30:05]
Podcast Narrators/Hosts (Various)
And you're maybe my biggest competition on.
- [30:07]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Social media, like when a kid says bruh of me and how they're navigating this high speed roller coaster we call reality.
- [30:14]
Charlamagne tha God
In Australia, you're looking out for snakes.
- [30:17]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Spiders and boys, right?
- [30:18]
DJ Envy
Hey, he's no Trey McDougal. Chill.
- [30:20]
Podcast Narrators/Hosts (Various)
This is like the comments section of my Instagram.
- [30:23]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Join me and my delightful guests every Thursday and let's get weird together in a good way. Listen to what are we even doing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [30:40]
Podcast Narrators/Hosts (Various)
Hey, I'm Nora Jones, and I love playing music with people so much that my podcast called Playing along is Back. I sit down with musicians from all musical styles to play songs together in an intimate setting. Every episode's a little bit different, but it all involves music and conversation with some of my favorite musicians. Over the past two seasons, I've had special guests like Dave Grohl, Leve, Rufus Wainwright, Remy Wolf, Marc Rebiet, Mavis Staples. Really too many to name. And there's still so much more to come in this new season, including the powerful psychedelic duo Black Pumas, my old pal and longtime songwriting friend Jesse Harris, and the legendary Lucinda Williams. Listen to Nora Jones is playing along on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [31:38]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
I know what it could do, you know what I mean? I was in jail and, you know, I seen, you know, what happened to Juice World, and I know that could have easily been my story, you know what I'm saying? You know, I see X and, you know, like, it's a lot of good men, you know what I'm saying, in this industry, man. You know that? You know what I mean? That, that, and that. Then from you know what I mean, and I'm like, damn, man, that could easily be me. Like, that was me. You know what I mean? Like, and, you know, jail pretty much saved my life. Now I'm saying, for real, for real.
- [32:13]
DJ Envy
I feel like you and X would have had a great connection. I know y' all did the Rough Riders.
- [32:16]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Yeah, that was the bro. That was the bro. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. I love that, man. Like, that was my dog. I'm saying, like, he was, hey, nah, I got some stories that I'm gonna keep to myself. Yeah, man, I love X, man. That was the bro. That was the bro.
- [32:39]
DJ Envy
I wanted to ask, you know, before y' all did Versus, did y' all have to have a conversation? Like, we seen that Gucci and Jeezy had a conversation before Versus, did y' all have to have a conversation, lay things out or no, on both sides?
- [32:51]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Well, well, home team. And I mean, you know, me and KLC been working together forever. Like, I love klc. Like, you know, we doing a whole project together right now. Like, Mac is my brother. Like, I love Mack. Like Mack was on my first album, Chopper City. You know what I'm saying? Fiend, my brother, like, me, X, my sister, like, you know what I'm saying? Like C, Murda, my dog. You know what I mean? I don't know, you know, the conversation that, you know, Baby and P had or if they even had a conversation. But yeah, I was having conversations with, you know, all the people that I just mentioned before, you know, we did it. And I'm like, man, listen, man, come on, man, stop playing, man. Let's check this bag, man. You know what I'm saying? Let's check this bag, you know what I'm saying? Let's give it to the people. Let's do it for the culture, man. You hear me? You know what I'm saying? Like, it's. It's been long overdue and it happened.
- [33:46]
DJ Envy
And I could be wrong, but I feel like Unc Murder, the only no limit cash money artists to collaborate. I feel like.
- [33:53]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Well, me and Mac collaborated and me and Fiend collaborated. Fiend was on my last album. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Facts, facts.
- [33:59]
DJ Envy
And how bad does the Turk situation hurt? Because y' all grew up with each other. Y' all lived in the same houses, y' all toured. I'm sure y' all been on the same. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Minivan travel. How bad is that situation that the family can't be tight?
- [34:14]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
I mean, man, I mean, bruh, like, man, bruh, man, this Internet is poison, man. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? Like, you know, it's a crazy place, you know what I mean? And, you know, a lot of people, you know, just get caught up, you know what I mean? Like in the likes and, you know, in the followers and, you know, just in the bs, you know what I'm saying? That. That, that come with it. And, you know, everything ain't for everybody, you know what I mean? And. And that's just how I feel, you know what I'm saying? Because I Come up and grew up in a time where, you know, you. You. You tried to keep what was private, private, you know what I mean? Like, and nowadays it's just. Like, everybody's just want to just. You know what I mean? Like, come on, man. Like, what is we doing? Like, come on, man, stop it, man. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, we supposed to be men. Like, we supposed to be canceled. Like, what is you going. You know what I'm saying? Like, what is you. Like, what is you doing? Like. Like, what was that name? Like. And it be throwing me off, man. But, you know, it is what it is.
- [35:31]
DJ Envy
Have you tried to be the bridge, the one that said, you know what? Let me be the guy that. Well, y' all got. Y' all on this shit.
- [35:36]
Charlamagne tha God
I was about to say.
- [35:44]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
What you.
- [35:45]
DJ Envy
Say is about the check, and you've grown and you've evolved.
- [35:47]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Nah, facts, facts. I mean, listen, man. Like I said, man, you know, me and Stunner got our relationship. You know, I got my relationship with juvie. You know what I'm saying? Me and Weezy got our relationship, you know, me and Fresh, you know, we got our relationship. You know what I'm saying? Like, t, you know, he be on. He beat, maybe be on what he be on, and I just ain't on there. No, I'm saying so, you know, at the end of the day, man, like, it is what it is, man.
- [36:18]
DJ Envy
But it always looked good to see all of y' all holding. They be trying to front on Turk's role in the Hot Boys.
- [36:25]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And, you know, I mean, don't make me go there, man. But you gotta admit, though, he did.
- [36:35]
DJ Envy
Have the best verse on Bling Blake.
- [36:36]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Blink on Bling Bling. Now, maybe on I need a high girl. Maybe I need a high girl N, N, N. He sweet. He like. Like, I ain't. I ain't taking nothing away from Round. You hear me? You know what I'm saying? But, man, Round be tripping now.
- [36:57]
DJ Envy
It ain't nothing that can resolve, though.
- [36:59]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
I mean.
- [37:00]
DJ Envy
Cause y' all did with. Y' all wasn't on tour together for.
- [37:02]
Charlamagne tha God
A little while, and I saw y' all in New Orleans. It was a great vibe. It did.
- [37:05]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Nah, Fast.
- [37:06]
Charlamagne tha God
But then it was the whole thing that happened with the hop.
- [37:08]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
He just be doing goofy, you know what I'm saying? Like, he's just for no reason. Like. Like. Like, for. Like, he's just be jumping out there, you know what I'm saying? With no parachute on. You know what I'm saying? Like, for no reason, you know what I'm saying? Like, and it just be like, man, you know what I'm saying? Like, come on, bro, you got Juvenile, you got Fresh, man, you got Birdman, you know what I'm saying? You playing with me. And then you got Shorty in the cut. Like, don't give about none of it. You know what I'm saying? Like. And it's like, bro, come on, you shot yourself in the foot, you know what I'm saying? Like, you and then you constantly shooting yourself in the foot. But could he be going through something, though? Like, could it be something deeper? Like, you know, man, I don't know, man. You know, you know, you know, you know, behind, you know, every. You know what they say behind every strong black man is a strong black woman, right? You know what I'm saying? And then, you know, behind every goofy is a goofy female that's telling them what they doing. All right, all right.
- [38:28]
DJ Envy
I wasn't trying to go that way. I do want to ask, ask you, what's one thing you know about freedom now that you didn't understand back then?
- [38:37]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Oh, man, it's. It's. It's. It's, man, it's the most important, like, because I got my son here with me right now, right? And when I left the streets, he was 11 years old, know what I'm saying? And I come home to a grown man, you know what I'm saying? Like, I come home, he 22, 23 years old, you know what I'm saying? And I miss you, you know, the most important years of his life, right? You know what I'm saying? And, you know, sometimes, you know, he be doing things and I be like, damn, I can't even fault him for not knowing what I was never teach him. You see what I'm saying? So, you know, it's, man, bruh, like, man, freedom is, man, it is everything, man. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't wish, you know, jail on my worst enemy, man. You know what I'm saying? Because that's not nowhere that. Nah, ain't nothing cool about it. You mean nothing cool about it. I mean, I know it. Come with it, you know what I'm saying? When you out there living, you know, a certain type of way or, you know, when you doing certain type of things, you know what I mean? Like, you know, you gotta. I mean, it is what it is, right? You know what I'm saying? And you gotta take your lick and you gotta, you know, move on. But yeah, man, I definitely. It's a lot of things that I wish, you know, that I could have, you know, took back so I could have been there, you know what I'm saying, for my family and for my kids and just for, you know, the people that love me, man. So, yeah, freedom is everything.
- [40:20]
Charlamagne tha God
What's dad BG like? Like, now you're home and you getting to be with your son, like, what are you like as a father?
- [40:25]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
I mean, I'm the cool dad, you know what I mean? You know what I'm saying? Like you, I try to, you know, put my foot down in this, you know what I mean? Time to put my foot down. But also, you know, I miss so much time, right, you know what I'm saying? To where it's like, you know, in certain situations I be kind of timid, you know what I mean? And don't be wanting to be too, you know what I'm saying? Like strict or whatever, whatever. But yeah, man, I'm just enjoying it. I'm just enjoying it, man. I'm just enjoying it. I'm enjoying it.
- [41:05]
DJ Envy
You always been raw with your music, but now that you older, wiser, you got your freedom, is there a part of your story you're more protective of? Like something you'd rather keep to yourself than put it in music?
- [41:16]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Nah, not necessarily. Like, I've always been an open book, you know what I'm saying? I've always been an open book. Like, I ain't never really hid nothing, you know, in my music. I always, you know, embrace the good, the bad and the ugly, you know what I mean? So, yeah, man, and I still keep it that way. Yeah. What was the hardest thing you had to adjust to when you first came home? Social media, you know what I mean? You know what I'm saying? Social media, like, you know, the dming and, you know, you getting with females and they trying to take pictures of you. Listen, listen, listen, listen. But I'm glad, you know, I'm in a relationship, I got a woman now, you know what I mean? And I ain't gotta, you know, live like that no more, you know what I'm saying?
- [42:16]
Charlamagne tha God
Five seconds. I got down.
- [42:17]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Yeah, man, it was, it was, it was, was, it was, it was, it was strange, you know what I'm saying? It was, it was different. Like, you know, just adjusting. Cuz when I left Instagram had just started. You can only just post a picture, you know what I mean? Like you, you couldn't go live, you couldn't do this, do that, do that, do that. You know what I'm saying? And then I come home and it's just. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like, you know, everybody got a voice now. Everybody got a opinion. Everybody. Like, it's just. Was a lot, you know what I mean?
- [42:50]
DJ Envy
Then you got girls that want that fresh out of prison dick.
- [42:52]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
You heard?
- [42:53]
DJ Envy
I'm serious.
- [42:55]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
I believe you.
- [42:55]
DJ Envy
Because the.
- [42:59]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
They was waiting on you.
- [43:00]
Charlamagne tha God
They was waiting on you to come home. The people were waiting for BG to be released.
- [43:03]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
So I know it was like, nah, nah, facts, man. But, yeah, I'm happily. I'm happily in a relationship, man. I think I'm getting married next year, man. So I'm good. You know what I'm saying? For real. For real.
- [43:18]
DJ Envy
How you know that's the one.
- [43:21]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
She. She. She make me feel, you know, complete, you know, she. She make me happy. For real. For real. It's real, though, man. It's. It's. It's real, man. And I ain't never like, I've. I've never out of my 30 years of just wilding and just thugging and just, you know, being a hot boy, right? You know what I'm saying? I ain't never, like, you know, been in this place. Like, you know, just mentally, like, and physically. You say in love. Nah, I'm in love. That's a fact.
- [44:14]
Charlamagne tha God
You found a ring already? You picking up. You've been looking at rings already.
- [44:17]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
I've been. I've been. I've been looking at rings already. I love this. Nah, for real, for real, man.
- [44:29]
DJ Envy
How does a artist like yourself, who really come from the street, who really come from that life, how do you adapt to this new era without losing your authenticity?
- [44:42]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Damn, that's a good question, man. Like, I. I mean, I just gotta stay true to who I am, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, just as a person and as a man. Right? You know what I mean? Because, you know, it's just watered down out here, man. Like, it's just different, you know what I mean? Like, it's a lot of things that I just be like, man, what the. You know what I mean? I be like, man, like, sometimes I just be wanting to hang it up. Like, man, I'm about to go. Do you say like. Like, I'm about to find. Cause, yeah, it's. It's. But at the end of the day, man, that's what I signed up for. You know what I mean? That's what I signed up for, you know? What I'm saying. And. And I love the culture, know what I'm saying? You know, like. Like music, you know, and. And rapping, like, you know, it's just in my heart, you know what I'm saying? Like, and. And yeah, man, like, I ain't gonna let you know, the buffoonery or just the sucker stuff, you know what I'm saying? Dictate, you know what I'm doing and what I'm on. So I just stay true to who I am, man, and keep it pushing.
- [45:50]
Charlamagne tha God
My last question, I guess, on the documentary is the whole time throughout the documentary, you're talking about how much. Or your lawyer talks about how much you wanted to fight from the very beginning.
- [45:59]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Facts.
- [45:59]
Charlamagne tha God
It's a big fight to have when you run up against the government, right?
- [46:02]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Nah, big facts.
- [46:03]
Charlamagne tha God
Were you ever scared at any point, like, yo, this might go the wrong way? Cause you said you felt like they were putting you in that position because you wouldn't cooperate with them, right?
- [46:10]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Right? Nah, absolutely. Like, I mean, I was, but I knew I didn't do anything wrong.
- [46:16]
Charlamagne tha God
Yeah.
- [46:16]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
You know what I mean? Like, I knew deep down inside, you know, that I didn't do nothing wrong. Like, this is music. Like, how you gonna lock me up, up for some raps? Like, come on, man, like, make that make sense. You know what I mean? Like, so, you know, like, I told him, and then I paid you 100 grand, man. I'm saying, like, you better go in here and make this make sense for me. But, you know, at the end of the day, like, yeah, nah, I. I just wouldn't lay down. Like, you know, because at the end of the day, you know, I felt like if, If, If. If I laid down and then I seen what Doug was going through, you know what I'm saying? In his case, you know, with them using his lyrics against him. You know, I seen other artists, you know, go through, you know, whether it was C Murder or Mac or, you know, this one or that one. And I'm like, man, nah, man, nah, I ain't. Nah. Cause I ain't did nothing but. But with some rapping, know what I'm saying? Like, just. Cause you don't like it, you know, that don't make it, you know, wrong. Like, you know, it's rock and roll, all this. That talk about killing their mamas. And you know what I'm saying? Doing all type of wild stuff, you see what I'm saying? So, you know, you trying to ridicule me and. Nah, nah, nah, I ain't Laying down like that, man. Cause I ain't did nothing. You know what I'm saying? I ain't did nothing. I'm just trying to make a living, and I'm just telling my story, and at the end of the day, it's only entertainment. So I had to go with my.
- [47:54]
Charlamagne tha God
And you had Lana, and then Tasha. I know she's here with you, fighting for you hard as well from returning back home. Or is she not here?
- [48:02]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Tracy.
- [48:03]
Charlamagne tha God
Sorry. I'm sorry. Tracy. Tracy. Fighting hard for you. And they were in the documentary talking about them choosing to fight for you during the time where you said a lot of people kind of, like, backed away. What did that teach you about relationships and valuing relationships? Because they didn't get nothing out of supporting you.
- [48:17]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
I mean, you know, you always find out who love you for you. Like, you know what I'm saying? You know, like, you know, people. People, man, people love you when it. When it's beneficial for them, right? You know what I'm saying? Like, and, you know, it's. Man, I could go on and on about that whole, you know what I'm saying? Situation. Cause I didn't experience a lot when they come down to that. But, you know, they hadn't wrapped their arms around me from day one, you know what I mean, since, you know, the moment I went to prison to, you know, the moment, you know, I came down that escalator, and they was there, you know, waiting on me. So, you know, that. That. That. That goes without saying, you know what I mean? That. That they was gonna stand with me and fight with me, you know what I mean? But, yeah, man, it just teach you a lot about, you know, people. But I ain't. Come on, man. Like, I already know it. Like, I ain't new to this, right? You know what I'm saying? I'm true to this. So it's like, I already know what it is.
- [49:24]
DJ Envy
So when you've seen both sides of loyalty from the business side and discreet side, and just, you know, even your people, like, what. What's harder forgiving somebody who crossed you or forgiving yourself for, like, the choices you might have made.
- [49:40]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
I ain't lying, man. You know, I forgive, but I don't forget, right? You know what I'm saying? Like, and, you know, I know a lot of people feel like that, right? You forgive, but you don't forget, you know what I'm saying? And, you know, it just make you wiser, and it make you smarter, and it make you, you know, pick and choose the People that, you know, you choose to, you know, have around you in the future. Right? You know what I mean? Like, it give you a better. You know what I'm saying? Like, it give you a better sense of the type of people that, you know, you want around you or that you need around you. Because I definitely don't like no yes men around me, you know what I'm saying? I need people around that's gonna call me on my bs, you know what I'm saying? That's gonna check me, you know, when I'm, you know what I'm saying? Doing something wrong and things of that nature. Because, you know, like, Pimp C said, man, in his book, like, when you get to believe in your own hype. That's right, you know what I mean? Like, that's a recipe for disaster, you know what I'm saying? So, you know, I try to keep people around me that's gonna, you know, just keep me in line and let me know. Like, man, look, you tripping, you know what I'm saying? Or you ain't, you know what I mean? But. But it got to be somebody that you respect, I'm saying. And yes, when I met with it.
- [50:55]
DJ Envy
Do you ever feel like your story could have been a warning or a lesson for the next generation?
- [50:59]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Like, don't be like me. Be better than me, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's. That's. That's what I always try to preach, you know what I'm saying? Like, I be going to, you know, juvenile jails and, you know, when I do my community service, I be going to the jails and, you know, speaking to the youth and you doing, you know what I'm saying? Like, what I need to do to get back and things of that nature. But I just be trying to tell them all the time, man. Listen, man, don't be like me, man. Be better than me, man. I've been there, done that, man. I know where it lead, man. You know what I mean? Like, man, I'm telling you, man, like, it's real. Know what I'm saying? Like, I know a lot of dudes, man, that's. That's never coming home, man. Like, they gonna die in that junk, Know what I'm saying? Like, literally, like, they gonna die in that, you know, Excuse me, you know what I'm saying? But, like, it's. It's. It's real out here.
- [51:55]
DJ Envy
What part of your life do you think you want this generation to pay attention to the most? Which one Could. What part of your life could they learn from the more.
- [52:04]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
For real. For real. Like, I ain't lying, bro. Man, them drugs royal, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, and I used to love that cup. I loved it, that cup, you know what I'm saying? I loved it, you know, palming pills, you know, it was my escape, you know, it was my safe place. Like, it made me. But, man, bro, that. It hold you back. You know what I mean? Like, in a major way, man. Like, it really, really hold you back, you know what I'm saying? So, you know, I know, you know it's a look, and you know what I mean? Like, you know, it's, you know, just part of the swag and, you know, all this and all that, but at the end of the day, man, like, man, nah, that ain't. Where is that.
- [52:50]
DJ Envy
You think it kept you from being.
- [52:51]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Like, even a man? Absolutely. Absolutely. It held me all the way back. I'm saying. It held me all the way back. I think I could have been way bigger, you know, then. Then I was. If. If I was into what I was doing.
- [53:06]
DJ Envy
You came up with the term bling bling, right?
- [53:08]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, us, you know what I'm saying? As a whole, like, we, you know, we was in the studio just having fun one. One night, you know what I mean? And, you know, we had just started, you know, I mean, we had been getting money and shining and whatever, whatever. And, you know, like, man, you blinking and now you bling blinging, and then Wayne come up with the hook, and then the rest history is in the dictionary and all type of, you know what I mean? So I'm like, yeah, yeah, but. But, you know, I wouldn't credit myself. I'm gonna credit the whole gang, man.
- [53:39]
DJ Envy
What does healing look like for bg?
- [53:42]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Healing?
- [53:43]
DJ Envy
Healing, Yeah. I mean, you carried a lot, you know what I'm saying? Grief and incarceration. Like, what. What's peace look like to you now.
- [53:52]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Man? You know that just, you know, love, man. Like, you know, just, you know, the. The kids, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, my girl, like, you know, music, you know what I mean? Just, you know, doing what I love. Like, I mean, yeah, man, that's pretty much, you know, what healing looked like to me, man. Like, just, you know, just really. For real. For real. Just, you know, being happy, man, and just staying focused, man, and staying out the way. For real.
- [54:30]
DJ Envy
Real. Who won the verses?
- [54:34]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
That was.
- [54:36]
DJ Envy
Honest New Orleans opin. Don't give me no answer. Like New Orleans or hip hop. Who won the verses?
- [54:43]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
I ain't going to lie, man. Like, on some G, on, you know, and this is, you know what I'm saying? Me and you on some G. Like, presentation wise, you know what I'm saying? I think they probably got us. Absolutely. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, they came, you know, camouflage down, it was. And I was trying to get everybody on the same page with the Tease Boys and Reeves, you know what I'm saying? Like, I want to. Like, I want to come tease bulls. Re. But song for song, like, they couldn't handle us, man. Like, song for song. But presentation wise, they won, man. You know what I'm saying? Song for song. No, they never could see us, you know what I mean? But at the end of the day, you know, it was a win for the city, it was a win for Louisiana, man. It was a win for the culture, man.
- [55:31]
DJ Envy
When y' all go on tour, in your mind, you'll be like, I'm getting my get back.
- [55:34]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Oh, yeah. Nah, that's a fact. That's a fact. That's a fact. That's a fact, man.
- [55:42]
DJ Envy
Check out BG's documentary and his deluxe album, Freedom of Speech. It's on now, right?
- [55:47]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Yeah. Nah, absolutely. Absolutely, man. I got the. Me and Boosie. Got an album about to come out. Me and Mike will made it. Got an album about to come out. Like, man, I got. Got some. I, yeah, I got some shit. I got some. Yeah. Coming on the plane.
- [55:59]
DJ Envy
See, there's another one who held you down when you was in prison.
- [56:01]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Nah. Yeah. Nah, Boosi, man, bro, I love bull. Like, that's my brother. Like, from another mother. Like, I'm talking about, you know, every holiday, you know, he hit my mama with a bag. Like, you know, hit my kids with a bag. Like, you know, made sure I was straight. Every time I call, he picked up like. Like, you know, man, Boo is like, the ultimate, man. Like, I can't say enough about Ron. You heard me? You know what I'm saying? My man TI you know what I'm saying? Was there for me, like, for a second, didn't you? Yeah, yeah. I had signed Atlantic, but TI had executive produced the album with me. Yeah, he was the reason I went over there. Like, he orchestrated the whole play with Craig Kelman, and, you know what I'm saying, got us a bag and you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, so, you know, tip my brother, too. You know what I mean? That's a fact. I can listen to you talk all day. This New Orleans like that, the accent, the whole man. I love it.
- [57:00]
Charlamagne tha God
I love it.
- [57:01]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
And I do want to say, although you went through so much, you know.
- [57:05]
Charlamagne tha God
You do not look like what you went through.
- [57:08]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Like you look good. I'm happy to see you. You. You got two months left.
- [57:12]
DJ Envy
You.
- [57:16]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Nah man. Thank you. Thank you man. I appreciate it man. I appreciate, appreciate it.
- [57:20]
Charlamagne tha God
Always good energy from bg.
- [57:22]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Nah, big facts. It's bg.
- [57:24]
DJ Envy
It's the Breakfast Club. Thank you for coming.
- [57:28]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Every day I wake up, wake your ass up. The Breakfast Club Finish or y' all done.
- [57:37]
Podcast Narrators/Hosts (Various)
The murder of an 18 year old girl in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved for years until a local housewife, a journalist and a handful of girls came forward with a story.
- [57:51]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
America, y' all better wake the hell up. Bad things happens to good people and small towns.
- [58:03]
Podcast Narrators/Hosts (Various)
Listen to Graves county on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and to binge the entire season ad free. Subscribe to Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Hunter, host of Hunting for Answers on the Black Effect Podcast Network. Join me every weekday as I share bite sized stories of missing and murdered black women and girls in America. Stories like Erica Hunt, a young mother vanished without a trace after a family gathering on 4th of July weekend 2016. No goodbyes, no clues, just gone. Listen to Hunting for Answers every weekday on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [58:52]
Charlamagne tha God
You know the shade is always shadiest right here.
- [58:56]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Season six of the podcast Reasonably Shady with Gisele Bryant and Robyn Dixon is here dropping every Monday as two of.
- [59:03]
Charlamagne tha God
The founding members of the Real Housewives.
- [59:05]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Potomac were giving you all the laughs.
- [59:07]
Charlamagne tha God
Drama and reality news you can handle.
- [59:11]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
And you know we don't hold back. So come be reasonable or shady with us each and every Monday. Listen to Reasonably Shady from the Black.
- [59:19]
Charlamagne tha God
Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app.
- [59:22]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Michael Lewis here. My bestselling book the Big Short tells the story of the buildup and birth.
- [59:33]
DJ Envy
Of the US housing market back in 2008. A decade ago, the Big Short was.
- [59:38]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Made into an Academy Award winning movie and now I'm bringing it to you.
- [59:41]
DJ Envy
For the first time as an audiobook narrated by yours truly. The Big Short Story what it means.
- [59:47]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
To bet against the market and who really pays for an unchecked financial system.
- [59:52]
DJ Envy
Is as relevant today as it's ever been. Get the big short now@Pushkin FM.
- [59:57]
BG (Christopher Dorsey)
Audiobook or wherever audiobooks are sold.
- [60:02]
Podcast Narrators/Hosts (Various)
This is an iHeart podcast.