INTERVIEW: BIA Talks Debut Album 'BIANCA', Cardi B, Becoming A True Artist, Signing With Pharrell + More

Summary

The Breakfast Club: BIA Talks Debut Album ‘BIANCA’, Cardi B, Becoming A True Artist, Signing With Pharrell + More

Date: October 13, 2025
Length: ~41 minutes (not including commercials)
Hosts: DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God, Lauren LaRosa, Gia Peppers
Guest: BIA

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Episode Overview

In this engaging interview, rapper BIA visits The Breakfast Club to discuss her highly anticipated debut album, BIANCA. The conversation explores her artistic evolution, influences, personal growth, challenges in the music industry, her history with Pharrell, the dynamics of being a multicultural artist, her approach to public drama—including the so-called "Cardi B beef"—and how she's carving her own lane in hip hop. The episode is full of candid anecdotes, career insights, and BIA’s unique outlook on artistry, ownership, and authenticity.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Introducing 'BIANCA': The Debut Album

• Album Details: ‘BIANCA’ releases Friday. Hosts praise its variety (“none of the songs sound the same.”)
  • Anna Ortiz: “It’s like pop, crossover time, all of that… good music, car ride music, do your makeup music.” (03:03)
• BIA’s Intentions: She wanted the record to reflect her breadth in music, ensuring listeners can’t predict the next track’s vibe.
  • BIA: “I didn’t want you to be able to expect what was going to come next on the tracklist.” (04:42)

Musical Inspirations and Identity

• Heavy ‘Biggie’ and ‘Foxy Brown’ influence on certain tracks, especially "Bad Guy" and "Trifling."
  • BIA: “Biggie, Foxy, Lil Kim… That’s how I want to come on the song.” (03:49)
  • DJ Envy: “Even the beginning… when she’s screaming like Biggs.” (04:03)
• Importance of showing different sides of her Puerto Rican and Italian heritage.
  • DJ Envy: “How come she didn’t dive into the Latino side more?” (05:22)
  • BIA: “I’m a feeling artist… But I do wanna work on like a Latin project… I got a song with Becky G that I’m really excited about.” (05:43)

The Journey from Pharrell to Independence

• Signed with Pharrell (2014), but parted ways to step into entrepreneurship.
  • BIA: “It was time to do my own thing… step into more of a businesswoman, entrepreneur mind… So grateful for them for life.” (04:58)
• Artist development is rare today—she values having had time to learn and grow before debuting:
  • BIA: “That whole artist development period… a lot of artists don't really have right now.” (05:13)

Personal Growth, Trauma, and Readiness

• Surviving a life-threatening motorcycle accident impacted her perspective and approach.
  • BIA: “I was just living so fast… It made me a lot more grateful and realized, like, don't play with your time here.” (07:46)
• Didn’t feel ready for a debut album until recently—felt she hadn’t lived or grown enough.
  • BIA: “I just don't think I had experienced enough… Even now, I'm a lot more conscious of what I'm saying…” (08:38)
• Discusses imposter syndrome and learning to find her unique sound despite outside pressures (from Pharrell and labels).
  • BIA: “I always knew who I was… But at that time… I didn't know what my sound was…” (09:16)

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Managing Success, Balance, and Confidence

• Juggled sudden viral fame from “Whole Lotta Money,” collaborations, and grueling tour schedules.
  • DJ Envy: “Was it business? Label? Personal?” re: career slowing down. (09:54)
  • BIA: “It was… trying to balance touring and creating. I love being in the studio. That’s my happy place.” (10:11)
• On artistic intention and legacy:
  • BIA: “I don’t wanna just make bops… I want intentional songs that's gonna mean something. That's gonna be here after I’m gone.” (10:59)
  • BIA on virality: “Whole Lotta Money was out for like six months before people [got it]… Now there’s so many people rapping in low tone, monotone voices.” (11:21)

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Vulnerability, Relationships, and Writing from Experience

• The album is her most personal yet, rich with stories of heartbreak, healing, and finding self-worth.
  • Lauren LaRosa: “So whoever he was, she realized, no, I’m the prize.” (13:40)
  • BIA: “It’s taking you through… dealing with different people, whether that be relationships, friendships… love moments, heartbreak moments.” (13:54)
• “NWFA” inspired by men’s relationships—candid talk about experiences and healing.
  • Gia Peppers: “You really feel like niggas will fuck anything?”
    BIA: “Yes, absolutely.” (15:02)
  • BIA: “Nobody hurt me. Trust me. I’m super healed… I’m not that girl that’s gonna be up, like, crying over a man…” (15:57)

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Peace, Competition & Navigating Industry Pressures

• On seeking peace amid chaos:
  • BIA: “Peace comes from me… I seek balance… I have integrity… I’m the same person [as] five years ago.” (17:03)
• On comparison and competition:
  • BIA: “I’m not one of those people who are shaken up by what people say. I have tough skin. I love competition. I'm a Leo.” (22:44)

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On the Cardi B Situation

Rumors, Subtweets, and Keeping the Focus on Music

• Clarifies the origins of the supposed “beef” with Cardi B.
  • Lauren LaRosa: “When Cardi dropped her song… you posted… fans thought we’d get a response…” (23:18)
  • BIA: “If I decide to address it… I can address it [later], but I could address it on wax… Why would I bring myself back to a lower frequency when I’m already up here?” (23:28)
• Describes how fan speculation and “the machine” fed into drama, but emphasizes her priority is the music, not online beef.
  • BIA: “I want to make people pay attention to my album… This isn't about her anymore… I’m anti-machine.” (27:43)
• On resisting the urge to retaliate:
  • DJ Envy: “Whose decision was it not to go back and beef?” (37:32)
  • BIA: “I’d say it was my idea… At the same time, I would be doing a disservice to myself… I’m here for a bigger mission right now.” (37:58)

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Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “They say you have your whole life to work on your first album… I always didn’t feel like I was ready.” – BIA (06:22)
• “I want intentional songs that's gonna mean something. That's gonna be here after I’m gone, that’s gonna reflect my legacy.” – BIA (10:59)
• “God’s plan is literally, like, way better than our plan. Like, we could show up and write it out, but how it goes is like, it’s never up to us.” – BIA (11:43)
• “I’m anti-machine… this is really about real artists… who care about the creative and do their work and have limited resources.” – BIA (27:43)

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Navigating Ownership, Growth & Creative Control

• BIA stresses the importance of owning her masters and being an example for younger artists.
  • BIA: “I own my masters… I care about the business side… my goal is to teach younger artists and… mentor.” (28:09)
• Her reality TV start (Sisterhood of Hip Hop) made her more determined, and she prefers privacy, wanting the music (and philanthropy) to speak for her. (28:48)
• Tracklisting challenges: BIA records prolifically, sometimes choosing from over 100 songs, aiming to balance meaning and energy.
  • BIA: “There’s still so much music that I wanted to see the light of day… but this was just some of the songs that I felt like was necessary…” (35:44)

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Genre Fusion & Global Appeal

• BIA experiments with amapiano, reggae, Latin, pop, and UK influences.
  • BIA: “First time getting on amapiano records… also got R&B stuff… this is just me opening up to different genres.” (34:45, 30:32)
• “Plus Four Four” homage to London culture and international sound.

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Community, Impact, and Next Steps

• BIA wants her music to uplift and empower women and the next generation.
  • BIA: “I want stuff that daughters could listen to… I want to give people the feeling I’d get from a Lauryn Hill record…” (35:44)
• Slight hints at a future tour, deluxe album, and more visuals.
  • BIA: “Maybe a tour… right now I just want to be in your house, be in my album mode.” (40:05)
  • “Bad Guy” is chosen as the album track to play out the episode. (40:25)

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Section-by-Section Timestamps

• Intro/Album Talk: 02:29–04:48
• Musical Influences & Studio Culture: 03:49–05:13
• Personal Journey & Pharrell: 04:48–06:14
• Latino Heritage in Music: 05:22–06:14
• Growth, Trauma, and Readiness: 06:22–09:41
• Dealing with Setbacks & Creativity: 09:54–11:12
• Confidence & Career Challenges: 11:37–12:23
• Relationships/Personal Songs: 13:18–16:01
• Peace & Competition: 17:03–18:04
• Cardi B Situation: 23:13–28:09, also 31:06, 37:31
• Artistry/Ownership/Industry Lessons: 28:09–31:20
• Genre & Track Decisions: 34:31–36:42
• Looking Forward (Visuals, Tours, Deluxes): 27:43, 39:39–40:07

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Conclusion & Takeaways

This episode showcases BIA as an intentional, multi-faceted artist committed to authenticity and legacy. She’s forged her path from Pharrell's mentorship to independence, learns from setbacks, and strives to advance the industry conversation around ownership, creativity, and self-worth. Despite being drawn into headline-grabbing feuds, BIA chooses peace, aiming to put her art above the noise. With BIANCA, she embraces her most personal work, pushing creative boundaries across genres while staying true to her values.

Standout Quote:
“I would be doing a disservice to myself… There’s so much more importance to my message and what I’m here for than to rap beef.” — BIA (37:58)

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End of summary.
This is a rich, insightful interview that goes far beyond the headlines—highly recommended for fans of BIA, hip hop artistry, and anyone interested in the evolution of young artists in the modern music landscape.

Transcript

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[BIA]

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[BIA]

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[Anna Ortiz]

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[BIA]

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[Anna Ortiz]

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[BIA]

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[Anna Ortiz]

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[Commercial Announcer]

Hold up.

[Gia Peppers]

Every day I wake up. Wake your ass up. The Breakfast Club. Y' all finished or y' all done?

[DJ Envy]

Morning everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious Charlamagne. The guy we are the breakfast club. Lauren LaRosa is here as well. And we got a special guest in the building.

[Anna Ortiz]

Bianca Bia is here.

[BIA]

Bianca.

[DJ Envy]

Bianca. Her album comes out this Friday and it's called Bianca. What's up Bia?

[BIA]

What's going on? How you Feeling, period.

[Anna Ortiz]

You ready for this album, girl, I'm so ready.

[BIA]

Yeah. Like, I've been ready. So this is just perfect timing.

[Anna Ortiz]

I love that none of the songs sound the same. Yeah, none of them. You got like a. Y'.

[BIA]

All. You listen to it. Yeah, I love that. We all did.

[Anna Ortiz]

And it's like pop, yo. It's like crossover time, like, all of that. Cause I hear me. I mean, I see some of the tracks, I'm like, all right. I can see me shopping in Bergdorf and Nordstrom all the way down to H and M Zara. And then, you know, you got some good. Some good music. Car ride music. You gotta do your makeup music.

[BIA]

You got all songs.

[Gia Peppers]

Birthday, birthday song.

[Anna Ortiz]

Birthday birthday song. And then you got a little bit of Biggie vibe going on. Yeah, yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Give me a lot of biggies. That's what she said. We was listening together.

[BIA]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

She was like, it's. It's heavy Biggie vibes, like, baby Biggie.

[Anna Ortiz]

Going on the flow. Everything that you had going on.

[Gia Peppers]

Like, stop.

[Anna Ortiz]

Well, my favorite song of the album is the bad guy.

[Gia Peppers]

Yeah, I like the bad guy, too.

[Anna Ortiz]

The tone is how she coming, even the flow.

[BIA]

I appreciate that.

[Anna Ortiz]

Was Biggie your inspiration at all?

[BIA]

Yeah, Biggie, Sean Fox, Lil Kim, like, that. We were listening mainly, like, Foxy and Biggie records that day and just trying to, like. That's how I want to come on the song.

[DJ Envy]

Even the beginning of which one was it trifling when she was screaming like Biggs.

[Anna Ortiz]

Yeah, yeah, that was trifling.

[BIA]

Yeah, that was trifling.

[DJ Envy]

Pray for my downfall. Like, pray for my dad. Like, you screaming on the beginning of that. That was trifling, right?

[Anna Ortiz]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, we could tell.

[Gia Peppers]

How intentional are you about representing all sides of your identity through your music?

[BIA]

Super. I'm glad you asked that question. I'm very intentional. Like, when it comes to the music, I just feel like I'm a student of music. I love rap. I love just the whole process of making music. And I started with people that were really, like. You know, I started with, like, Pharrell and people femmle that there's a really. There's like a really intense studio culture. So that's what I came up on. And I really wanted this to be a reflection of my years in music, not just, like, one sound. And I didn't want you to be able to expect what was going to come next on the track list.

[DJ Envy]

What happened with Pharrell and Pham? Cause you were signed with them at one point, I think in 2014. That's when I first heard of Beer. And you're not with them anymore.

[Gia Peppers]

What.

[DJ Envy]

What about that business relationship?

[BIA]

I think, like, that. That journey just, like, ran its course, and it was time for me to kind of, like, go and do my own thing and step into more of, like, a. A businesswoman, entrepreneur mind of, like, my run my own program. But I'm so grateful for them for life, because that's where I think a lot of my, like, collectiveness when it comes to music comes from. It's like, just that whole artist development period, which a lot of artists don't really have right now. Mm.

[DJ Envy]

I also wanted to know, but you being Puerto Rican and Italian, when we were listening to the album, it finally did come up.

[Anna Ortiz]

I'm like, yeah.

[DJ Envy]

I wonder how come she didn't dive into the Latino side more. Especially because it's one of the biggest right now. When you talk about Spanish music, you see what Bad Bunny's doing. You seeing what all the Spanish artists are doing. How come you didn't dive into that more?

[BIA]

That's a good question. I feel like when I make music, I'm very, like, I'm a feeling artist. So, like, whatever is my feeling at that time or whatever, I'm trying to get off is what I'm gonna, like, intentionally get off. But I do wanna work on, like, a Latin project on the side because there's, like, a lot of things I wanna do with different sounds and, like, merging and fusion. Fusioning them together. But I got a song with Becky G that I'm really excited about, Hard Way. And that's like, to me, like, you know, and with young Mikko, and they're like, two of my favorite girls, like, on the Latin side especially, too.

[Gia Peppers]

This is your official debut album. How do you approach this project? Different than other projects. Like, how do you say, this is my album?

[BIA]

This is my album? They. You know what they say, you have your whole life to, like, work on your first album. And I always didn't feel like I was ready up until, I would say, like, maybe a year or two ago. I started to be a lot more intentional with the music that I'm putting out. And they were like, you know, of course, people call for you to have an album at different times, and I'm like, I'm not ready. I'm not ready. But that's because I don't think, personally, I was ready to, like, check my frequency and what I'm putting out into the world.

[Gia Peppers]

Why didn't you think you was ready? It was just A personal thing, like, you had to do some inner work.

[BIA]

Yeah.

[Gia Peppers]

Okay. Okay.

[BIA]

Like, I think I didn't. I didn't. I didn't go through enough. And I think, like, when you, a new artist, like, people are like, okay, cool. This is new. This is cool. But I think people have to see the growth, and people have to see you, like, go through shit in order to be like, okay, let me take a listen and let me. Let me give this person a different. A different eye.

[Gia Peppers]

Then you almost forgive me. Didn't you almost die?

[Anna Ortiz]

What the fuck?

[DJ Envy]

Motorcycle accident.

[BIA]

Motorcycle crash. Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Why you look like that, Jess? Just like, what?

[Anna Ortiz]

Okay.

[BIA]

Wow.

[Gia Peppers]

Yeah. You said it was 10 or 20 of y' all on bikes. You was a passenger, a drunk driver whipped a U turn. You flew 20 to 30ft in the air. You fell on the floor. You hit the floor like, oh, my God, am I alive? You looked down, your leg was split open. You didn't know if you was gonna keep your leg or not. It was bad. How did surviving that motorcycle accident change just the way you approached your life and everything?

[BIA]

I think at that time I was just living so fast, and I was so excited to be doing music. I just signed my deal with Pharrell, like, maybe two weeks before that. So I thought, like, my life was about to change. Like, oh, yeah, we on. Yeah. And then it was like, no. But I was still in the studio at that time, like, on crutches, just because I wanted people to see, like, oh, I'm serious about this. Like, it made me a lot more grateful and realized, like, don't play with your time here, you know, and don't play with. With people. Like, because you don't know when you're going to lose somebody very quick.

[Gia Peppers]

That's right.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So what is it that you wanted to go through to be able to do that, this album? Because, I mean, that's a life changing experience. You are signed at that point. I'm sure you've had life before that. Like, is it like, heartbreak or, like, what did you think you needed to experience?

[BIA]

I just don't think I had experienced enough. And, like, in terms of just life experience, love, music, whatever the case may be, like, I don't think. I don't think I was ready and I don't think that I cared about the frequency that I was putting into the universe. Like, even now, I'm a lot more conscious of, like, what I'm saying online, what I'm doing online, what I'm doing, like, in general, just because it's like, it's all a universe. It comes back to you.

[Gia Peppers]

A lot of that sounds like. That sounds like imposter syndrome, a little bit. Like, you. You had to deal with Pharrell, but you just weren't sure who you were in that moment or maybe not sure of the position you were in.

[BIA]

Yeah, I think I always knew who I was, But I think at that time, like, Pharrell was trying to help me develop, and fam was trying to teach me how to be a real artist. So for them, they were like, okay, do this beat, do that beat. Do this beat. And I didn't know what my sound was when I knew deep down inside, like, oh, I wanna come like this. But they're trying to, like, help me widen my palette and, like, be a better artist. So I don't think I fully grasped that at that time.

[Anna Ortiz]

And then you were just trusting them because these are successful creators that came before you. So you just putting it in their hands, just trusting it, right?

[BIA]

Not really. I think you just don't know enough about the business at that time to know how to take the reins on your own shit and, like, run it.

[DJ Envy]

What? Slowed down for bia, Right? Cause you had a trajectory to go through the roof at one point.

[Gia Peppers]

Right.

[DJ Envy]

A whole lot of money came out. You did remix with Nicki. You had records with J. Cole, you had records with artists, and you was all over the place. And then it just. It seemed like it just stopped or it just slowed down. Was it business? Was it label? Was it personal?

[BIA]

No, it was never business, label, personal. It was more so, like, trying to balance, like, touring and creating. Because I'm a real. I'm a real creator. Like, my favorite part about this is going to the studio and making songs.

[Anna Ortiz]

Yeah.

[BIA]

And then going and performing them. But, like, I love being in the studio. Like, they'll tell you, you can lock me in the studio for a week. I will not leave. Like, I'll sleep there. Like, wake up there, brush my teeth and record there. Like, I love being there. That's my happy place. Yeah. So, like, that's the whole reason why I got into this. And so at that time, it was so busy. It was like, show, show, show, show, show. And I was like, I miss being in the studio. Like, I really want to go back to the studio. So it was like finding that balance at that time and also making new music and figuring out, like, okay.

[Gia Peppers]

How.

[BIA]

Do I want to come? And what do I. I don't wanna just make bops. Like, I just. I got to that point Where I'm like, I can make cool songs, but, like, I want intentional songs that's gonna mean something. That's gonna be here after I'm gone, that's gonna reflect my legacy and what I'm putting out into the universe.

[DJ Envy]

So did you like a Whole lot of Money? Cause it popped off TikTok viral, right?

[BIA]

I loved was one of my favorites. When everybody else didn't get it, I got it.

[Anna Ortiz]

So they didn't get. People didn't get it before.

[BIA]

At first, Whole lot of money was out for like six months before people. And at the time they were like, oh, it's a monotone as flow. Like, she's rapping in that low tone. They didn't really get it. Now there's so many people rapping in low tone, monotone voices, like girls, everything.

[Gia Peppers]

So what moment in your career thus far has tested your confidence the most?

[BIA]

Hmm. I would say getting out of my first deal, because when you leave a situation that's so big and it's not what you envision it to be, you think like, oh, my God, what's next? Or, like, am I going to be able to top this? But I feel like I've always have. So, like, every. Everything that came next was always bigger and better than I could have predicted. And like, you know, it's cliche, but God's plan is literally, like, way better than our plan. Like, we could show up and write it out, but how it goes is like, it's never up to us.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Who is the. The person that was playing at the Sofi Stadium that was taking you through with Child? Who on the album you mentioned, you said you had shows and he had something at Sofi. And I'm like, well, that's the NFL team that played the Sofa Stadium.

[Anna Ortiz]

She knows it. You know, she gonna dig into it.

[BIA]

No, it was just like, no, no.

[Gia Peppers]

No, don't do that. Don't do that. The album is called Bianca.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And you said this is your most, most personal and vulnerable album or project.

[Gia Peppers]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

You could have said any other stadium. You could have said MetLife. You could have said any other stuff.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Maybe that was very specific. That gave.

[BIA]

Okay, I. I just at that time, like, I had been to the Sofi.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So I went there and then it was an NFL team playing and then.

[Anna Ortiz]

Keep digging, Lauren.

[Gia Peppers]

Go ahead.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You had met a person.

[BIA]

No, like, I had just been to the Sofi, so it just stuck out to me, like, oh, this is one of those places that I was at. But on this album, on Bianca 1010, I feel like, it's very, very personal for me. It's the most vulnerable I've ever been on an album.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, because there's another song, too, girl. I was along the ride with you in the beginning of the album. Right. It seems like whoever this person is or people, different experiences, you're going through it, and then you get to. I think it's like, Sad Party or one of the party or one of the songs, and you realize who you are. You like, don't give me nothing you can't take back. I mean, I don't want nothing. Cause you can't take it back from me.

[Anna Ortiz]

And.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And I'm like, okay. So whoever he was, she realized, no, I'm the prize.

[BIA]

Yeah.

[Anna Ortiz]

Who was that?

[DJ Envy]

Yes, some of that. You going through it.

[Gia Peppers]

But hold on. That's interesting what you say that, Lauren. Cause you went from you to prize. So talk about that being in that moment.

[BIA]

I'm so glad you said this, Lauren. You are t. Because when I talk about the track list, like, I literally take people through the track list, and it's like, I'm like, okay, don't turn me to the bad guy. Cause I don't want to play for you. But, like, I want to. Like, it's like. It's taking you through, like, the day in the life almost of me and kind of just like, finding my way and, like, dealing with different people, whether that be relationships, friendships, and I'm just, like, finding my way. And you and y' all are just coming with me on the journey throughout that project. So there is, like, love moments in there, Heartbreak moments in there.

[Gia Peppers]

Whole phase.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[BIA]

Cause you got whole face there.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Sad party girl. You like, you might take a couple.

[BIA]

Shots and post a birthday.

[Gia Peppers]

Nwfa.

[BIA]

Oh, NWFA is for the. You know what that's for. Cause they will. They will do. That's about the men's. That's about the men's.

[Anna Ortiz]

Well, will the person know that you talking about them? The one that you talking about?

[BIA]

I don't know if he'll know, and I don't know if it. If it's for him. I think it's just, like, that's like a. Therapeutic for me. I'm gonna get off. Whatever. I gotta get off at the studio. If you offended by it, that's on you. But, like, I'm here for me.

[Gia Peppers]

You really feel like niggas will fuck anything?

[BIA]

Yes, absolutely.

[Gia Peppers]

What?

[BIA]

They homeboys.

[Anna Ortiz]

You ain't never anything.

[BIA]

They home, girl.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You know the song.

[Anna Ortiz]

But no, seriously, that's not like, anything at one Point. I know you was anything else.

[Gia Peppers]

You are. You are anything to somebody.

[Anna Ortiz]

Everything's to the right person. Don't play because this is playing anyway.

[Gia Peppers]

But you think that, though?

[BIA]

Yeah, I think a lot of them will. Not everyone, but I think a lot of them will.

[Gia Peppers]

What experience made you feel like that?

[DJ Envy]

Who?

[Gia Peppers]

And what did she look like that you like? God damn, you fuck anything.

[BIA]

My girl is so true, girl. Like, if you really. If you go through some of these phones, you'll see what's going on. Oh, my God. I'm not saying do that, but I'm just saying, like, they will do anything. Anything.

[DJ Envy]

Damn, damn, damn.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Child.

[DJ Envy]

Who hurt Bia?

[BIA]

Nobody hurt me. Trust me. I'm super healed. Like, I'm happy.

[DJ Envy]

She said I'm healed now.

[BIA]

Yeah, no, for sure. I'm happy. Like, yeah, I'm not that girl that's gonna be up, like, crying over a man's like. Or, like, even begging him to, like, get it right.

[DJ Envy]

Like, what's the wildest thing you did, B? You had to do something wild on, man.

[BIA]

Kid call.

[DJ Envy]

What's the wildest thing you did when you laughing you down? Oh, I said Puerto Rican.

[Gia Peppers]

She cut somebody before, bro. At least pulled the knife out.

[DJ Envy]

Nah, that's the Spanish side.

[Gia Peppers]

Yes.

[BIA]

I can't remember. Really. Honestly, Truly, that would be, like, incriminating myself.

[DJ Envy]

You started smiling so you remember something. Something came to your mind.

[Anna Ortiz]

Puerto Rican and Italian.

[Gia Peppers]

Well, what does peace look like for you, Gia? In an industry that thrives on chaos and competition?

[BIA]

Oh, you. You asking such great questions today. I was a little worried about you. But I like how you coming. I like how you coming.

[Anna Ortiz]

Ba.

[DJ Envy]

Is not over yet.

[BIA]

Stay low.

[DJ Envy]

Keep firing.

[Gia Peppers]

Bia.

[DJ Envy]

It's not over yet.

[BIA]

Okay. All right. Repeat that.

[Gia Peppers]

What does that peace look like for you in an industry that thrives on chaos and competition?

[BIA]

Peace looks. Peace is like. Is a. Is a me thing. Like. Like, the peace comes from me all across the board. When it comes to, like, my career, my relationships, I. I seek balance, and I just seek to be intentional with everything I do. In that way. I don't feel no type of way when anything happens, because I'm coming how I need to come every time, if you get me. What I mean, like, by that piece, for me is like a. I go to sleep every night. I could look myself in the mirror with what I've done, and I have integrity. I have, like, I have who I still am when I came here. Like, I'm not a different person than when you met me five years ago. Other than success or different money I've made or like different experiences I've had, I'm the same person.

[Gia Peppers]

Like, well, what does piece look like in an industry that thrives off comparison?

[BIA]

What does peace look like? You got to be at peaceful at peace with yourself.

[Gia Peppers]

No, but I'm talking about in this industry that, you know, that thrives off comparison, they like to compare people to everybody. Like, oh yeah, this person reminds me.

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[BIA]

All I know is what I've been.

[Anna Ortiz]

Told and that to have truth is a whole lie.

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[BIA]

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[BIA]

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[Maggie Freeling]

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[Gia Peppers]

I did not know her and I did not kill her or rape or burn or any of that other stuff.

[BIA]

That y' all said.

[Anna Ortiz]

They literally made me say that I.

[BIA]

Took a match and struck and threw it on her. They made me say that I poured gas on her.

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[BIA]

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[Gia Peppers]

This person, that person reminds me of that person.

[BIA]

True.

[Gia Peppers]

Or you got to make a song like this person cuz this song is popping.

[BIA]

Yeah, I don't, I don't really feed into that. I'm, I'm not really that like, I'm not one of those people who are like shaken up by what people say. Like I have tough skin. Maybe that's what it is. Like I, I love competition. I'm a Leo. So I'm barking like park like you want it. I'm coming like, yeah, I will say.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I was expecting because I know we, we saw. Since you talk about peace and you choose a piece, there were some Peace chose on this album because I didn't get a straight Cardi this. On this album.

[Gia Peppers]

Why would it be a Cody?

[BIA]

I don't know what happened. I don't even know. Like, why would you think that?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Because when Cardi dropped her song Pretty and Petty as F, you posted in the studio and said, well, Now I have 16 songs that you can name. So the fans thought we would get a response on the project.

[BIA]

It's not to say I don't have a response, but I think, like, where I'm at right now, like, that was a year ago. Like, and what am I going to do? Like, keep. Keep beefing with partisans. Like, over and over again. Like, why would I. I don't want to do that. You got. I don't want to do that. Like, I know what it started from. She knows where it started from. Like, only thing I'm here to do right now is to, like, make people pay attention to my album. And, like, if I decide to address it six months from now, two. Two weeks from now, a year from now, Cool. I can address it, but I could address it on wax. That's what I did the first time. Yeah, I went to the. She said my name. I went to the studio and addressed it in 24 hours. And then you made me wait a whole year. So what I'm supposed to do, Bring myself back to a lower frequency when I'm already up here.

[DJ Envy]

Crazy thing is, call me stupid, but where did the beef start? Somebody help me.

[Anna Ortiz]

I don't know you, Lauren.

[Gia Peppers]

She would know.

[BIA]

So.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Okay, I'll say.

[BIA]

What?

[Gia Peppers]

11 11, y' all make. Hey, make a wish. 11, 11 years on a positive vibration. Guys, I'm just.

[BIA]

I'm just kidding.

[DJ Envy]

Where it from came, came from.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Okay, so there was, like, something about you supposed to have, like, a sex tape or something like that that she. Cardi said this when she was here, too, that there was, like, a sex tape that she had heard that was circulating.

[BIA]

It was from you.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And then there was. But before that, it was like, you make the video that she made. There was, like, subliminals online with you saying she's, like, stealing your style with the video. And, like, that whole thing. Then it led into y'. All back and forth.

[Gia Peppers]

It's still 1111.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah. Like that.

[Gia Peppers]

You're on the right path. You're a master manifestor and know exactly where you're going. Alignment at its finest. You can choose where to go now. Just.

[BIA]

That's so funny. Are you. Are you still.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You know, I'm. I'M done.

[BIA]

That's all the things I remember.

[DJ Envy]

Wait five seconds.

[Gia Peppers]

Ah, 11, 12.

[BIA]

Okay. So where it started was there were fans that were, like, bringing up similarities between, like, a video, a couple songs. I'm. I'm an artist. I write all my stuff. I don't have the. The resources like that. Maybe an artist with a bigger platform would have. So when I. When something like that is brought to my attention is disheartening for, like, an artist that do everything on their own. So when you see something like that, I'm like, okay, I said my piece. I like the tweet. She called my phone screaming, like, trying to, like, bully me or hold me out of how I feel. Like, you can't hold me out of how I feel. Like, that's just what it is. So she. That's where it all started. It has nothing to do with a sex tape. I don't even know what sex tape they. I don't even know what that's about. Like, there was a lot of people also, too, that at that time, that when I was going to the studio to. To make my diss, because she dissed me first. So when I went to the studio to go, okay, I'm going to the studio. Rah, rah, rah. It was in Atlanta. So there was a lot of different people that was in and out the studio hearing what I was saying on the records, going back, saying stuff to her, offset whoever they were saying it to. But that had. That had, like, the stuff that she was saying that I was saying, I was not saying. Like, they even called, like, she even called me multiple times with, like, managers on the phone, my friends on the phone, like, trying to get me on three way to record me do all this weird stuff. And, like, I have real. When I get on the phone with somebody, I'm genuine. So my first intention is not, like, record this. I can use it as a receipt. Like, when I get on the phone and I speak to you, it's genuine. I have no ill intentions. I know everything I said on that phone call. I know everything I said to her about her. That's just not how I roll. So, like, we could have even had a conversation about it. If you inspired by somebody or you think somebody is tight, like, it's nothing wrong to be like. If the fans pull out that similarity, you to be like, oh, yeah, I think she's fired. Yeah, but why you got to downplay and be like, no, I didn't do that. That's. That's not what. I wouldn't fuck with that. Like that's not true. You know that's not true. Cuz it's receipts. So that was my issue. This isn't even about her. This is really about real artists. Like the artists that get up and go to the studio and care about the creative and do their work and have limited resources. I'm speaking for them. This is not even about her anymore. Like, it's like I'm anti machine. Like.

[Anna Ortiz]

Do we have any visuals coming for Bianca?

[BIA]

Yeah, there's a lot of visuals.

[Anna Ortiz]

Okay, nice.

[BIA]

Bad guys coming.

[Anna Ortiz]

Okay, nice. You can't give me a little treatment synopsis?

[BIA]

It's cute. You'll see it.

[Gia Peppers]

You know, you talked about the machine and it seems like you've moved from being like just under major labels to carving out your your own lane. Like, what did the industry teach you about ownership and self worth?

[BIA]

Well, I own my masters and like, so I care about like, you know, I have my publishing, my master's, all that stuff. I care about like the business side of things because I didn't know about that coming in. So when I did understand like what all this is about, my goal is to like teach younger artists and kind of like mentor and fill that space of like what I didn't have when I came into this industry. So that's really what's important to me. Like, I just want to focus on that, be an example to that and just keep growing my business on an entrepreneurial side, not just like an artist on the front side.

[Gia Peppers]

And you started on Sisterhood of hip Hop, Right? Wow. So that show, would you say that helped you?

[BIA]

Absolutely. I think that a lot of people can look back in my journey and be like, oh, wow, like this is a real thing. I started with like 3,000 followers. I started with like people saw my grind, go to the studio. So I care about the music for real. Like, I love music, I love doing it. It's not really about. I never care to be so famous. I don't like date and put my business out in the world. Like there's so much about me that's private because I want people to with the music and I want people to pay attention to like what I'm doing in the world. Philanthropy, like community outreach.

[Gia Peppers]

Like that wasn't a lot of one that show, that was another one. What show was a lot of ones?

[DJ Envy]

Rap game or something like that. Yeah.

[Gia Peppers]

It's interesting that they actually made those shows for female rappers, I guess to, you know, have a platform and get seen and you actually have people who came from those shows and had success.

[BIA]

Yeah.

[Gia Peppers]

Now on the song plus four. Four. That's a UK country code, right?

[BIA]

Yeah, that's. That's a London country code.

[Gia Peppers]

And you rapping in, like, a little British accent. You think they're gonna say cultural appropriation?

[BIA]

No, because I'm. I'm from New England.

[Gia Peppers]

I don't know what that means.

[BIA]

I'm from New England. Like, you know, Massachusetts. New England. New England.

[DJ Envy]

Like New England Patriots, man.

[BIA]

Yeah, like New England patriots. I'm from New England. Yeah, exactly. Basically.

[Anna Ortiz]

Huh?

[BIA]

You know London. Yeah. Jacob, the song.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[BIA]

You know, five.

[Gia Peppers]

Hold on, I'm.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So Cardi said people couldn't name five BE songs, and she.

[Gia Peppers]

Yeah, I can name five BE songs.

[BIA]

Okay. That's right. All right. So London is, like, me coming plus four. Four is me coming back to London.

[Gia Peppers]

Yeah. A whole lot of money. London, plus four. Four. Dade October.

[BIA]

Let's go. India is crazy.

[Anna Ortiz]

Tell me, why are the songs on the album so short? You want to leave people wanting more. Like, what's. What is it?

[BIA]

I just wanted it to flow. Like, there's some songs that are really long. Like, Sad Party's, like, almost, what, 3.

[Anna Ortiz]

Minutes and 37 seconds?

[BIA]

That's long.

[Anna Ortiz]

That's the longest song ever.

[BIA]

And it got an outro interlude type of thing going on, like, so I just wanted it to flow. I love short projects. I love projects that are, like. I don't know. I just love projects that I could just listen to and, like, digest them. So I feel like it's like that. But I also got R and B stuff. I have, like, a whole nother project done that I'm like, can't. I just. I feel like this is just kind of open me. Opening me up to different genres that I haven't done yet.

[Gia Peppers]

I was glad you had an album because I'm not going to front after, you know, we had Cardi up here, and they was like, oh, be. It wants to come. Like, yeah, like, to have beer. But then I was thinking about it. I'm like, what is she. Does she have an album or something coming up? Cause I didn't want you up here just, you know, beefing, you know.

[BIA]

Yeah, no. Crazy. This album was done way before she dropped this, so, you know, I'm not even mad. Like, I'm not mad at her. She actually just, like, shined a big light on me, so it's like, I have no ill feelings towards her. It's rap, you know, I'm not like. It's a competitive. It's A sport. Like, you call on me, I call on you. Like, it's not. It's. I don't know. It's like, this is what I'm here for. Yeah, that's what we're here for.

[Gia Peppers]

How hard was it to keep a response record off, though? I'm sure people on your team was like, yo, you should respond for the fans.

[DJ Envy]

I'm sure.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Well, especially because of how fast you responded when everything was happening.

[BIA]

I got a studio in my house, so, like, I re. I just. For me to go and get it off, I didn't want to have the same, like, mentality as I did the first time because I did learn. Like, the energy you put out into the world is the energy you will receive. So I was like, how do I want to go about this? I could say something nasty again, but it's like, okay. And then what? You know?

[DJ Envy]

So you did a record, you just didn't put it out?

[BIA]

I'm just saying, like, I'm always doing records. I have a studio in my house. I record myself.

[Gia Peppers]

So how do we make peace, though? I mean, we got Bad Bunny at the super bowl in February. Like, we want to see Latinos.

[BIA]

Bad Bunny.

[Gia Peppers]

Latinos together.

[BIA]

Bad Bunny at this. Bad Bunny.

[Gia Peppers]

Yeah.

[BIA]

What does it have to do with.

[Gia Peppers]

I want to see Latino.

[Anna Ortiz]

But she had Italian, so that's how. I probably won't let her release.

[Lauren LaRosa]

She's.

[BIA]

Yeah. Honestly, I don't know, man. This is life. Like, you let it go, how it goes, and it work itself out. I just show up with good energy and good vibes and everything will come back.

[Anna Ortiz]

Do you really do your own nails?

[BIA]

Sometimes.

[Anna Ortiz]

Oh, okay.

[BIA]

Yeah, they're gel x. Sometimes I have a nail kit. A nail studio, like, in my house.

[Gia Peppers]

God damn. What else you got now?

[BIA]

Right? Yeah, I love my house.

[Lauren LaRosa]

She said, I left my house. That photo you took in front of the be a sign when you posted that, that was in your house. That's the studio in your house.

[BIA]

Which one?

[Lauren LaRosa]

When you talk about you got the 16 songs.

[BIA]

No, no, no, no. In the studio. That wasn't in my house. That was in a different studio. But, yeah, I do. I got a nice house. Studio. Like, I love my house. Like, I'm. I'm glad too.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You said something earlier about you said you made these songs a while ago. Like, you just focused on that because, you know, even though it's not a shot, but the mention of Stephan Diggs.

[BIA]

That line, people don't take that, girl. You're spilling a lot. And this. You gotta Let people listen to this thing.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Well, I'm just asking. Cause when people see this interview and they start talking about it, they're gonna make it seem like it was something that it's not.

[BIA]

Yeah. No, I recorded that. It was just a bar. Like, I do bars and metaphors. I could rap, so it's bars and metaphors and bars and all. All throughout my songs. But the line is not. You wrote it down.

[Gia Peppers]

You can dig it.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, just like Stefan.

[Gia Peppers]

I missed that one.

[BIA]

I didn't. I don't.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, it was on plus four. Four.

[BIA]

Yeah, it was on plus.

[Gia Peppers]

He said, exactly.

[DJ Envy]

She don't know. I don't know what song that was on.

[Gia Peppers]

Today Ain't Right. That a lot.

[BIA]

I actually have a. A tik tok when I. When I recorded that. The day I recorded it was long before this.

[Gia Peppers]

Wow.

[BIA]

So I'll show you. I'll show you. I got receipts for everything. For real. I'm. I'm not a liar.

[Gia Peppers]

Like, yeah, you craft a lot. I mean, you make a lot of music that travels globally. How do you think about building, like, a sound that crosses borders? Or do you just make the music? Or do you think to yourself, I want this to hit here, I want this to hit here?

[BIA]

Sometimes I have, like, that intention. Like, when me and J. Cole did London, I had that intention to make a song that would be Bring me to London. But now, like, I just. I just. Whatever the beat calls for is, like, kind of what I. What I give influence to. I. This is my first time getting on. I'm a piano records because I have some really good friends. Tyler, icu, Khalil. Like, they brought me into that space. So that was really cool. Like, that was my first time experimenting with that, and I wanted it to sound natural, not like, oh, B is trying to make it. I'm not a song.

[Gia Peppers]

Pray for you, right?

[BIA]

Yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Pray for you. And one thing is like. Is that what is one thing that's not on my piano?

[BIA]

No, one thing's kind of like reggae. Lauryn Hill influenced. Yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You go from, like, house music to reggae to Latino.

[BIA]

I'm not.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So good too.

[BIA]

Like, how do you.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You're welcome. How do you. When you're trying to focus on what music you're putting on an album, how do you know which ways you want to go? Cause it seems like you could do so much as well. And, like, what do you want people to know you for?

[BIA]

That's the hardest part. My track list. When we throw it up on the whiteboard, there's, like, 50 to 100 songs. Sometimes we're cutting down from 150 songs. Like, we. I'm recording all the time, so there's still so much music that I wanted to see the light of day that hasn't made it to this album. But this was just some of the songs that I felt like was necessary and I really wanted them out. Like I told you, coming back to, like, the energy I'm putting into the world. Pray for you. I felt like that was necessary. One thing, a song for girls. Like, I just don't want girls to always feel like they gotta be on some low frequency shit. Like, I want stuff that daughters could listen to. Like, you could listen to with your daughter. You could listen to with your. You know, like, I wanted. I want people to give. I want to give people the feeling that when I would listen to sometimes a Lauryn Hill record, like that thing, and I would leave with something or like, listen to TLC or leave, you know, it wasn't just a feeling of like, I want to go shake my ass and shake my titties. I want to go and like, put something good into the world.

[Anna Ortiz]

And I love that because we just had Ty Dolla sign up here and he had just. He's also on the album.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[Anna Ortiz]

Crazy Fire. Thank you. But he was saying, what's. What's missing, what. What should change about the music today. I don't want to put words in his mouth, but is the subject. Everybody talk about the same shit. And like what you just said, you don't believe that all we have to listen to is low frequency shit. Like, you want stuff that my daughter can listen to. My mother, your grandmother, you know what I'm saying? So I do like that. I will say this is not a question. I love your voice, like your tone on any song you have that sound, like everybody is not unique in a way where you can hear their voice and you automatically know it's them. Because a lot of people sound the same, you know? So I do. I do love your voice and your tone and all your music.

[BIA]

Thanks, Jaz.

[DJ Envy]

You know, a little something I want to ask. Whose decision was it not to go back and beef, Right? Cause I'm thinking about it now. The sad thing is the album, which is a dope album we would listen to, it will get overshadowed by the beef, right? And the fact that there's no beef there. I'm hoping that people actually get to see who BIA is and not just somebody online beefing. So whose idea was it was like, you know, What? I'm not gonna do this. I want people to see me. Especially for my debut album.

[BIA]

I'd say it was my idea.

[DJ Envy]

Cause I'm sure it was a hard decision. As a rapper.

[BIA]

As a rapper, yeah. Absolutely. I even been going back and forth with it up until yesterday. Like, I. Going back and forth with it every day. It's like, do I want to respond to this right now? Because. But at the same time, I would be doing a disservice to myself with everything I put into this album, making it about her. You know, like, when I could just go and I could drop something at any time. Like, that came a year ago. I dropped that record a year ago. Like, I would be doing a disservice to myself. I'll say that, like, there's so much more importance to, like, my message and, like, what I'm here for than to rap beef. I've been out for over 10 years. I've never gotten to a rap beef. That says a lot about me. Like, I have great relationships in this business because I carry myself a certain way, so why would I ruin that? Like, I can address it at any time, but I'm just here for a bigger mission right now.

[Gia Peppers]

I like the fact that Cardi waited, though, only because I just feel like this is still a business at the end of the day.

[BIA]

Yeah. Why not respond if you're gonna respond on your album? You know, that's what we always said.

[DJ Envy]

You came from that school of Biggie and hov, so you came from the school of you gonna get my album, and I'm gonna have these balls.

[Gia Peppers]

There we go.

[DJ Envy]

But I said, she came to the school. If you listen to the album, you could tell.

[BIA]

Yeah, I'm just. I'm just, like, on a different vibe. I have, like, way. I don't know, maybe I'm so happy and peaceful in life right now.

[Gia Peppers]

Yeah, good.

[BIA]

Like, I'm so happy and so peaceful.

[Gia Peppers]

So why you in the album saying, well, fuck you then?

[BIA]

Because that song I did a couple months ago now, I'm like.

[Anna Ortiz]

Hey, yo. She said, I can always deluxe it.

[Lauren LaRosa]

All right.

[Anna Ortiz]

You put it in the air because you could be like Chris Brown and put 45 songs on one album. I'm still trying to learn the last one. I'm like, Jesus. You know? Would you ever do that, though? Like, deluxe extended album?

[BIA]

Yeah, I might. I got a lot of songs still that, like, we really wanted to put them on this album that they. I didn't. I just didn't want over a certain amount of songs. So maybe I'll deluxe some, but maybe I'll just put them on a whole different album.

[Anna Ortiz]

Are we getting a tour?

[BIA]

Maybe we're getting a tour.

[Anna Ortiz]

Maybe.

[BIA]

Maybe. Right now I just want to, like, be in your house, be in my album mode. Like, I want to, like, go outside, perform my songs, do spot dates, things like that. Got you.

[DJ Envy]

Bianca is out today, ladies and gentlemen.

[Gia Peppers]

Be it.

[DJ Envy]

What you want to hear off the album, what song you want to play? Want to hear Bad guy.

[BIA]

You want to hear bad Guy?

[Gia Peppers]

Bad guy. All right.

[BIA]

Yeah, let's play bad guy.

[DJ Envy]

Let's get into bad guy right now. It's the Breakfast Club. It's beer.

[Commercial Announcer]

Hold up.

[Gia Peppers]

Every day I wake up. Wake your ass up. The Breakfast Club.

[Maggie Freeling]

The murder of an 18 year old girl in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved for years until a local housewife, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story.

[BIA]

America, y' all better wake the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns.

[Maggie Freeling]

Listen to Graves county on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season ad free. Subscribe to Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcasts.

[Hunter]

Short on time, but big on true crime. On a recent episode of the podcast Hunting for Answers, I highlighted the story of 19 year old Lachey Dungy. But she never knocked on that door. She never made it inside. And that text message would be the last time anyone would ever hear from her. Listen to Hunting for Answers from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Anna Ortiz]

It's Anna Ortiz and I'm Markin Delicato.

[BIA]

You might know us as Hilda and.

[Anna Ortiz]

Justin from Ugly Betty.

[BIA]

Welcome to our new podcast, Be My baddie. Yay. We're rewatching the series from start to finish and getting into all the fashions.

[Anna Ortiz]

The drama, and the behind the scenes moments that you've never heard before. But you were still bartending. I didn't know that. The bar back is like, is that you and I turn around and it's.

[BIA]

A commercial for Betty.

[Anna Ortiz]

And I was like, I gotta go. I quit. Listen to Viva Betty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[BIA]

In early 1988, federal agents raced to track down the gang they suspect of importing millions of dollars worth of heroin.

[Commercial Announcer]

Into New York from Asia.

[BIA]

Had 30 agents ready to go with.

[Anna Ortiz]

Shotguns and rifles and you name it.

[BIA]

Five, six white people pushed me in the car. I'm going, what the hell? Basically, your stay at home moms were picking up these large amounts of heroin.

[Anna Ortiz]

All you gotta do is receive the package.

[Gia Peppers]

Don't have to open it, just accept it. She was very upset, crying. Once I saw the gun, I tried to take his hand and I saw.

[Anna Ortiz]

The flash of light.

[BIA]

Listen to the Chinatown sting on the iHeartRadio app. Apple Podcasts or anywhere you get your podcasts.

[Lauren LaRosa]

This is an iHeart podcast.