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INTERVIEW: Cardi B Talks Pregnancy, Dating After Separation, Touring, New Album ‘Am I The Drama?’ + More
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Angela Yee
This is an iHeart podcast.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Would you sell your soul for greatness? Would you be willing to sacrifice? Find out on September 19 that a new Jordan Peele produced horror film only in theaters starring Marlon Wayans in a role of a lifetime as the greatest football player of all time, AKA the Goat. Tariq Withers also stars the up and coming Protege, directed by Justin Tippen. Produced by Monkey Paw Productions. Never Meet yout Idols. Him in theaters now. I'm Marcus Grant.
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Cardi B
And I'm Michael F. Florio and together.
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Charlamagne Tha God
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Cardi B
The Super Secret Bestie Club Podcast.
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Angela Yee
Season four is here and we're locked in. That means more Juicy Cheeseman terrible love advice, evil spells to cast on your ex.
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Charlamagne Tha God
No, no, we're not doing that this season.
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Angela Yee
Oh, well, this season we're leveling up.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Each episode will feature a special and you're not going to want to miss it. My name is Curly.
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Cardi B
And I'm Maya.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Get in here.
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Angela Yee
Listen to the Super Secret Bestie Club on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or.
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Cardi B
Wherever you get your podcasts.
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Angela Yee
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Charlamagne Tha God
Hold up. Every day I wake up. Wake your ass up. The Breakfast Club. Y' all finished or y' all done? Yep. It's the world's most dangerous morning show, the Breakfast Club. Charlamagne Tha God, Jess, hilarious DJ Envy. Jess and Envy aren't here today, but Lauren LaRosa is. And we got a very special guest. Her sophomore album is finally out today. Am I the drama Big Body Cardi B. What's happening?
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Cardi B
What is going on, y'? All?
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Charlamagne Tha God
How you feel?
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Cardi B
I'm tired Morning sickness. No, no. Okay, this one is. I don't. I really ain't got that this. This time around. I don't know if it's my age or. I don't know, because it's like. I was like, girl, please.
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Charlamagne Tha God
You know, we had a. We got a whole baby shower up here for Cardi. We got Golden Corral from the Bronx.
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Cardi B
A real one, though. Not just. Not just like a. Like, just catering. They got me cakes and slushies and a whole big yes food. I can. I can. Oh, I can't wait to this interview for. I was smelling it. I was like. I could smell some chicken. And my security guard talking about, like, it was some noodles. Die. No noodles.
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Angela Yee
They thought she was tripping.
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Cardi B
Yeah. I could smell it.
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Charlamagne Tha God
You ever ate that Golden Corral before in the Bronx?
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Cardi B
I never ate at that Golden Corral.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Okay.
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Cardi B
I went. I forgot what state I went to that. I did a Golden Corral.
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Charlamagne Tha God
And you got the baby shower chair.
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Cardi B
Yeah, I got the baby shower chair. Bring the Burberry shirts out.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Let me ask you a question. When you look back, why did it take eight years to drop a second album? And you can't blame being pregnant because you're pregnant now.
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Cardi B
No. And that's why we wanted to tell people, like, it was never because I was pregnant, because my mouth is not pregnant. You know what I'm saying? I'm just very, like, picky. Everybody always said that I dropped the ball when I didn't release an album after whopping up. But to be honest with you, I only had, like, six songs, and I was trying, but I didn't like, nothing. It's like, it should be my. It shouldn't be my second album. And then like, just a whole bunch of things that was just happening in my life, and I just feel like I wasn't ready.
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Charlamagne Tha God
How many songs you thought you needed? You had joints. You had press out at that time.
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Angela Yee
Press was hard because Invasion of privacy was only 13.
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Cardi B
Yeah. But I. I just feel like invasion of privacy. I just didn't put a lot of, like, thought in it. Like, I was just like, I have to put an album out. I'm about to have a baby. But then, like, the second one, I. I think I overthinked it.
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Charlamagne Tha God
But see, that's what I'm saying. That's a good thing. When you was putting out the gangster mixtapes.
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Cardi B
Yeah.
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Charlamagne Tha God
And Invasion of Privacy, you wasn't thinking about it. It was no pressure. Like, just go in there and have fun.
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Cardi B
Yeah. I don't know why I just overthink it. Even. Even. I just feel like as you get older, too, you just overthink too much, and it's just like you just got to do it.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Do you feel like you're still proving yourself as an artist? Are you past that?
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Cardi B
Oh, absolutely. Especially, like, now with this whole second album thing. It's just been like a whole nasty debate for the past two months. And it's like, kind of have to prove it to them, but it's like, kind of don't have to prove nothing to nobody. But I'm motivated. I feel really good.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Okay.
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Cardi B
What? You.
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Angela Yee
The debate. You talking about you. Which debate? Because there's always debates about you.
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Cardi B
Yeah.
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Angela Yee
Is it that people feel like the album is too late or they don't think that the music is going to be good? Like, what is the debate? Exactly.
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Cardi B
It's just so. It's just so many different things that, that. That I hear. Like, for example, like, my. My numbers prediction, or like, if I don't hit a certain number, like, the label's gonna drop me, or, like, if I'm a priority in the label and all. And it's just like, what are you talking about? Like, that is. That's. That's not true. Like, and a lot of people think that I'm not gonna go on tour. And it's like, honey, Live Nation gave me a check. I'm going. There was a check that it was given, and there was a check that I gotta go get. I'm going to get that check. So what's.
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Angela Yee
I saw you post a video. We covered it this morning, of your body preparation for the tour, and you talked about the stretching and all that, but what's going to be your mental preparation? Because I heard you say you're gonna be leaving the babies home.
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Cardi B
Yeah, but, like, it's just. This is, like my fourth. This is my fourth rodeo. This ain't my first second baby. This is my fourth baby. Like, you know, I. I just had a baby last year, and I do have a lot of videos. I was working out while I was pregnant, like, on my last weeks, and when I gave birth, like, in four days, I just felt like, so, like. Like nothing. So it's like, I. Not only am I gonna prepare myself for the tour, like I said, I just have to prepare myself, like, physically so I could just feel good. My second baby, he too big. He broke me. My first one. I had to stitch my last one down there. The cat.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, she ain't had no kids yet.
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Cardi B
I ripped.
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Charlamagne Tha God
I rip you didn't know that happens.
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Angela Yee
No.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
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Angela Yee
How did you pee?
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Charlamagne Tha God
Huh?
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Angela Yee
Oh, my God. Cardi, hold my hand.
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Cardi B
It was hard. Yes.
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Angela Yee
I'm so sorry.
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Cardi B
But, but. But that's what I'm saying. Like, it's like, now things are just a little different and I'm more experienced. Like, the third one was so easy. So I'm expecting this one to be as easy as. Well, in the. In the name of the Lord. Like, that's why I'm like, I did it. I just did last year. I could do it.
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Charlamagne Tha God
I know a lot of women who look at you and they say, cardi knows how to balance it all. She got the kids, she got the career. Have there ever been a moment where you questioned if you could have it all?
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Cardi B
I'm gonna make it. I'm gonna make it. If I want something, I'm gonna make it happen. It's just really like, the. How bad you want it? If you really wanted that bad, if you want a bat, you get up and you go get it. It ain't no complaining. Ain't no crying about it. I'm tired. I'm just. I'm tired every day. My feet hurt every single day. But it's like, okay, if you want this to be successful, you gotta get out there. Like, it's like, you know, crying. You know, this. If I want it. Like, it's like, go get it. Like, it's like, this is what you chose. Like, it is what it is.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Like, what about people around you, though? Because, you know, it's still a business. So they was like, oh, my God, she's pregnant again with this.
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Cardi B
So my label and Live Nation, like, they asked me, like, it's like, hey, you know, we can move the album to the beginning of the year, and you could, like, tour in the summertime. I was like, no, I'm going to put out my album in September, and we gonna go on tour on February. I got things to do in the summertime. This is gonna be the schedule. And I'm. And I'm promising you guys that I'm not gonna let y' all down. And it's like, okay, we trust you. And I've been showing them that. It's like, I'm down and I'm doing it, and they're very motivated, and we've been like, like a team. Like, it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're doing it. The day starts off rocky and cranky, but then when. When things are turning good and we see the numbers that we see, the vision is like, wow, I'm motivated. I can't wait to push. So they always been supportive of me, though. They never been like, it was like. Or they know. They know when I want something, my work ethic, if I really want it, they know that I'm going to do it. The only time that I just be not giving in my all is when I'm going through, like, mental distress. And people, like, don't understand that. So people would think that it's because of the kids or because I'm just whatever. No, when I'm in mental distress, I don't want to do nothing. But I feel very. Like, ain't nothing really bothering me right now. Like, I'm. I'm good.
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Charlamagne Tha God
That's good.
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Cardi B
I'm good.
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Angela Yee
Have you always been that in tune with, like, your mental of, like, I need to take a break from work because it's easier now because Cardi B is established. She's the superstar. But when in the beginning, how did you deal with, like. Because we've watched you go through things from all of your career. How did you. What's the difference now?
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Cardi B
I didn't even. You know what? I didn't even notice that I was taking so many long breaks. Like, I would tell myself, like, it's like, you know what? I need to go on a hiatus for like two months. Next thing you know, it's like, damn, I haven't put out a song in eight months and nine months. And I wasn't even realizing it, that it was so long. And I was. Because I was overthinking. I was over stressing. Or sometimes I was really so sad that I couldn't even, like, open my mouth or think to, like, record. Like, I just was so unmotivated that you, like, telling yourself, like, it's like, I need a break. And then it's like the break turns into so long. And you just be like, damn, what, oh, what did I did that whole time?
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Angela Yee
I get to the next step.
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Cardi B
Yeah. And. And I didn't even notice or realize that it was taking that long. I was just overthinking. I was just too tired. I was just too tired of stress. So that was. That was what's messing me up.
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Charlamagne Tha God
What did you do? Like, like, you know, because, you know, we know fame can be overwhelming. So what do you do to protect your peace and stay grounded?
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Cardi B
Sometimes I got the answers and sometimes I don't. But I. I'll tell you one thing. I always have somebody to call. I always got my friends, my family. I always got somebody to call. Somebody's always there. 5, 4, 6, 3. I could call. And nobody complains. Nobody complains.
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Charlamagne Tha God
What's, what's stressing you out though? Like, is it like the industry? Like you find yourself comparing yourself to other people?
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Cardi B
Like, it's not really comparing, it's the industry. Relationships. Just. Just so many things. Like. And then like it will affect me for, like it won't just affect me for like a day. Cuz some people will. It's. It's real easy for people to be like, oh, just give yourself 72 hours. Sometimes it will mess you up for like a week or so or longer. Especially if it's, if it's, if it's heartache. Like it's like you, you boy, you can't fight that. You really can't fight that.
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Charlamagne Tha God
So it's like grief.
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Cardi B
It's like grief.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
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Cardi B
So I don't even know, but I just know that I got somebody there always telling me like, you go girl. And I'm here. I feel really good. I'm in a good space right now. I don't feel like I'm sad. I don't feel like I'm nothing. I feel like it's like I need to get this right now. Right now.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Did this album feel therapeutic to you? Because you know when I hear songs like Dead right out the gate, Killing these Hoes. You started with Dead and you ended with Killing these Hoes. So did that feel good to just get in there and express that.
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Cardi B
Some songs in the album, it was not good songs to do. And then like some songs like that, it. It is me talking about like on some, some cockyish. Like I was really angry because I feel like a lot, a lot of these girls were trying me and it's like I don't like feeling tried because it's like I feel like I, I have beef with so many girls growing up that is really like that. And it's like I know you are not really like that, but you feel like you like that because right now I'm going through this hate thing on social media so you think you could take advantage and everybody's going to take your side, but I'm going to let you know, like, it's like me, you, you, you, you not nowhere near me when it comes to artistry, when it comes to nothing, when it comes to the street. Like, girl, I. I'll. I'll crush you. Like you, you a little p. Me not even about. But. But no, it's not even about being or tough. Isn't that. Because a lot of these girls, they don't care if you or not. They know they're never gonna see you. And they're not really fighters, but they like antagonizers, like, and it's like they get off that. And it's just like you gotta, you gotta know when to come at somebody. I'm. I'm gonna let you keep trying me thinking when you try me when you, when you, when you at a certain position. And then that's when I'mma play my position. I'mma. And I'mma remind you right there. Cuz there's sometimes a girl will come out and everybody love her and everybody's cheering for her and everybody's rooting for her. And then they will try you at that moment, but if you say something back, you will look like you're hating. And I'm not hating. I just peep that you trying me. But I'm going to stay silent. Because one thing about it, all the. All artists, me, every artist, you're going to experience a different tie. It happened to all of us. No matter what genre you in, like, it's going to happen. And when that happen, I'm going to remind you how you tried me for real. And I'm going to remind you, like, it's like you see why I have lasted so long. Because you think you're so bright. You think you're bright, but you're not that smart. I might, I might talk away, I might do this and that, but it's like I'm very, I'm smart. I'm very, I'm very bright. I know how to play. And now it's time for me to get you. Because you was, you was trying me at a bad time. I was going through.
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Angela Yee
Pretty.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Exactly who you're talking about.
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Angela Yee
I said on the song, pretty and petty as you come out the gate.
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Cardi B
Out the gate. Yeah.
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Angela Yee
All right. So you said in the song, you, you waited. You told her you was gonna do it on your terms, when you were ready. You do the song, you drop it. At this point though, like, I mean, so that reignites everything. Cause I remember y' all were going back and forth. Your whole thing was you felt like you just doing this. Cause you want my platform, you want the attention, I'm gonna give it to you. And then I'm done with it. This reignites it all. Like, why even address her again on the album?
- [15:46]
Cardi B
Because, because you mentioned my kids trying to be cute. There's just, there's gonna be times that like, people throw Shots at you or like, there's gonna be times, like, you know, like, when she did her little diss and it was trash. Like, it's like, it could have been tr. And I couldn't leave it at that. But it's like everything on social media is going to be seen. So when my kids grow up one day and they see that you mentioned them, and then they. And they're going to ask me like, so what you said, what you did, I'm not going to tell my kids. Like, you know, I just felt like she took the high road because she lost because people wasn't on her side. No, I'm not saying that to my kids. I'm like, you see how I violated. And she. It's. It's more. You know what it is? I feel like last year, every artist was, like, beefing, girl. Like, every. Every artist was beefing. And I thought. And I think she was gonna get a moment out of that because she thought that I was copying her. And I had a conversation with her. First we was cursing each other out. Then I had a real conversation with her, and I was like, listen, I'm not copying you. I don't even look at you like, you. You're not a person that I look at or I'm inspired by. And the conversation ended. Then she kept going because of a music video, and it's like, oh, girl, you definitely not on the mood board. I. Whatever. More or less then this, right? It'd be a lot of funny behind the scenes. It really be a lot of funny behind the scenes. This producer that was working with, like, my ex, he was telling. He was going around saying that I was messing with a guy.
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Angela Yee
And there was. There was allegedly a sex tape or something, right?
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Cardi B
Yes. And I was like, what, me? Hell no. Hell no. But it was a lie and it was ridiculous. And a bitch can say no damn stuff on. Because I got messages when I first started talking to him, and I was like, I have to get to the bottom of who's saying that. She was trying to plant a seed that I was cheating on this guy with a blood nigga. You think that I'm. I'm. You're not from the hood. So to you, because I'm blood, you think that I'm like, oh, I'm pressed to mess with. That's nothing to me. That's like being around Dominicans or something. Like, it's like, that don't mean nothing to me. Everybod, everybody, this everybody. And then. And then this is New York one Thing about a New York person or anybody, they're gonna talk. You was really trying to even mess things up in my home. And it's like, damn, you hated on me so much. You hated on me so much. And I kept saying like, it's like, prove it. Prove it. Show me a text. Show me when I flirted. Cuz when I'm loyal, I'm very loyal. Like, I don't text, I don't flirt, I don't even look at people in the eye because I don't even want you to think that I even like you. And you was doing all that and it's like, I, I got you. And it's like. And I know it was confirmed that it was her that was going around with that rumor because when she did her this, she kept saying like, oh, why say how you. How you like cheater some like that. I forgot how. What she was saying, but it's like, so say, say who I was. Say who I was dealing with. Say it. Oh, you just made that up. You just made that up. You just made that up. You was being messy. And as I now, I got a wet belt for you and you ain't even gonna know when it's coming. Have you ever got hit with a wet belt?
- [19:11]
Angela Yee
Not a wet one.
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Charlamagne Tha God
My daddy beat me with an incision cord and made me take a bath. So it's kind of the same thing.
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Cardi B
No, it's. It's when you, it's when you in the shower and. And your mom find out something and then she just whip your ass and your body's wet. Yeah, I might hit you with a wet belt. And I, I told her. And then it's like, you. And then you thought it was cute to put my kid's name. I'm gonna get you.
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Charlamagne Tha God
You did. You did it the right way, though. You put it out, put it on your album. You know.
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Cardi B
She should be thinking Blossom because I did that song last year, but I was so nasally because I, I had, I was so congested. She need to thank her. You know when you get sick when you're pregnant, you. You can't recover for like three weeks. Throat be messed up, nose be stuffy, feet be fat.
- [19:56]
Charlamagne Tha God
When the Internet be coming for you, Cardi, whether it's the fans or haters or blogs, does it make you like second guess sharing your truth or does it make you feel like, you know what I'm gonna be? I'm gonna be more unfiltered, I'm gonna talk more.
- [20:07]
Cardi B
Sometimes yes and sometimes no. Like, sometimes I just can't help myself. And I'm like, I'm gonna say what I wanna say. But sometimes I'd be like, I. I gotta. I just gotta reserve myself because I don't want people to. You just always, always, always on that. You just always, always on that. So sometimes I'll be like, all right, whatever. And then sometimes I'd be like, you know what? Like, you. Why you on my dick? Like, stop, stop. You, like, you. You. You. You taking advantage now? Are you playing with me? And sometimes people will be like, oh, don't give them clowns. Like, nah, I'm gonna give you the clout today. You. I need to get this nut off my fucking chest. I got a dick on my chest.
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Charlamagne Tha God
Damn. That's what Diddy said. Let me ask you a question. Like, you say, what's the biggest thing motherhood has taught you about yourself? That. That, like, the fame and money couldn't.
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Cardi B
Motherhood is hard. No matter how much money you have, no matter how much. How much you plant, motherhood is hard. It also makes me. It almost makes me, like, not want to, like, lose anything. I don't, like. I don't want to lose. Like, I don't want to be a quitter. Like, I don't ever want my kids to be like, oh, so why you ain't did this? I was like. Because people was being so harsh on me, and it's like. It's giving them an example to be. To, like, be like, all right, so if people are being mean to you, you automatically quit. Like, you automatically finish. I don't want to do this no more. Like, no. And I don't know something about it, about motherhood that is just, like. It's just so beautiful. I love them kids so bad, and.
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Charlamagne Tha God
I feel like that's what you. And that's. That's the right thing to do. That's what you was devoted to the last ages. Even more so than anything, because I even think about. You were supposed to shoot that movie with Paramount, and you. He was like, nah, I'm not even gonna do that right now.
- [22:04]
Cardi B
But I'm not. That is something, too. That is, like, I don't really like to do. I always tell people, like, it's like, I don't like sets. I don't like waking up at a certain time. I don't. I don't like having, like, a set schedule. Set schedule. It's. It's just. This is why I never finished college. Like, is that. It's just certain things are just not for you. Certain responsibilities are not for you. Like I have to do things my way, my time. And I don't know how people do it. And then it's like I heard, I always heard that it's like if you start off and you do like a movie and. And you do great, then the other movie that you make you, that's when you get the big coins. I don't got time to be like, I'm getting this.
- [22:48]
Angela Yee
Well, they should still come correct. Because you cardi b though, right?
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Cardi B
Like, no, it's not like that. Not in the movie world.
- [22:53]
Angela Yee
So you start fresh.
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Cardi B
You start fresh and it's like I'm doing all this is hard work. Getting up and leaving at a certain time is hard work for me.
- [23:03]
Charlamagne Tha God
Like, but that's your gift. Like, even before music, we always, we saw you on Instagram. He was like, yo, Cardi gonna be in TV shows, Cardi gonna be in movies. So that's not like a desire of yours.
- [23:12]
Cardi B
It's. I think, I think that people just. This is just my natural self. Like I'm just being my natural self. For example, somebody I'm funny, right? So if people be like you, you should be a comedian. It's like that's not my. That's not what I like to do. Like, cuz if I stand with a mic, I can't do a joke. Like I'm just talking. Like I ain't my fault that what I say funny but I can't think like the chicken TR the road.
- [23:41]
Charlamagne Tha God
As soon as you try to be funny, they're gonna be like, nah.
- [23:43]
Cardi B
Yeah, like when I try to be funny, it's not. And then it's that I don't know how to really act. Like, I don't know how to act. Like when I was taking act classes, it wasn't good. It was just like, it was just like, like the, like the teacher. Like there was like think about a time when somebody died and this and that the most thing happened to you. And it's like, nope, I still can't cry. It's not going to happen. I have to go through some shit so I could cry. It's just. It's not my thing. It's is really not my thing.
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Charlamagne Tha God
So what's the last thing that made you cry?
- [24:22]
Cardi B
I mean, I could, I could. It's not that, that I'm. I don't cry. I just don't know how to cry on cue or like. Or if. Or if I have to do a scene where I'm going to Cry. I'm going to laugh automatically. Like, I can't help myself. Like, I'm just naturally dramatic, but I don't know how to do drama. Not my thing.
- [24:43]
Angela Yee
When you were making this album, which one of these songs, like, were what was the hardest emotionally for you to make and rehear and be in the studio doing?
- [24:52]
Cardi B
Man, are you worried? And. Because I was going through it at that time, like, I was going. It's not like. It's like, oh, I was talking about a. Something that happened in 2018 or whatever it was happening at that time, and I was doing it at that time. And the hook was just so beautiful that it was supposed to be like a female singing the hook, but nobody was singing it with. With. With. With that emotion that Dougie did it. And I'm like, I don't care if it doesn't make sense. I'm keeping Dougie.
- [25:22]
Angela Yee
And when so. And getting into those emotions and the things that you were experiencing while making the album, did that put you in a place where. Because from what I've been seeing, anyway, you tell me if I'm wrong. The way that you started talking about the divorce and Offset and all the things and the way he started. Now, you guys, it seems like it's a lot more peaceful on both ends.
- [25:41]
Cardi B
It's not respectful.
- [25:42]
Angela Yee
No.
- [25:42]
Cardi B
No, it's not peaceful at all.
- [25:43]
Angela Yee
I was gonna ask, did the album help, but no, it.
- [25:45]
Cardi B
What is it? It's not peaceful at all. I don't even. I can't even talk about it because it's like. It's like court thing, but it's like. It is not peaceful at all. It is not. It. It is not peaceful. I don't even want to, like, make it into a. It's not peaceful.
- [26:05]
Charlamagne Tha God
Just know when you heard his song Move on Offsets Move on. What you think?
- [26:10]
Cardi B
I laugh, Whatever. You let the world think what they want to think. People see it. People see what's up. I don't buy nobody. They can't prove that. I buy them.
- [26:21]
Charlamagne Tha God
Did it hurt your feelings when you said you couldn't cook?
- [26:24]
Cardi B
No. Because you know that. But now you got You. Now you got all these that cook for you. Why you still bothering me?
- [26:36]
Angela Yee
And you used to be on TikTok.
- [26:38]
Cardi B
You.
- [26:38]
Angela Yee
You never said that you could. Like, you were Chef Boyard. You be on Tick Tock, making your, you know, cooking what you cook and doing your thing. Sometimes.
- [26:48]
Cardi B
If. If somebody asked me or somebody told me, like, is that I want. I want you to cook for me, I. This is what I require and stuff like that. I'll do it. I will do it. But that was never, like, a requirement. So it's like, now you. Now you acting like that was an issue. Now you got these bitches that cook. Why you. Why. Why can't you sign the papers?
- [27:09]
Charlamagne Tha God
And these bitches cooking after everything. Do you think love and marriage is still worth it?
- [27:15]
Cardi B
I think it's worth it.
- [27:16]
Charlamagne Tha God
Well, you get married again.
- [27:17]
Cardi B
Mm.
- [27:18]
Charlamagne Tha God
Really?
- [27:18]
Cardi B
Mm. Mm. I will get married again, but not as quick as I got married the last time.
- [27:26]
Charlamagne Tha God
Mm.
- [27:27]
Cardi B
But it's a lot. It's really a lot. It's actually disgusting.
- [27:33]
Charlamagne Tha God
Do you. Do you find any peace in independence? Like, when you just alone, like, you're not in a relationship or nothing, or do you have to have. Be in a relationship with somebody?
- [27:45]
Cardi B
When I. When I was. When I was, like, completely single, like, when I just was completely single, as y' all could see, I was outside with my friends. I just had my baby, and I just had to get out of that funk. And it's like sometimes they feel good, and then sometimes, like, you'll be in the club. Like, I just told that to somebody. Like, you'll be in the club and it's 3:30 and you're drunk and you're realizing that it's like, damn, I'm going home. I'm lit. And I literally not even having somebody to. To or something, because sex is just sex. You don't have nobody to talk to, and you really feel alone. And that is a feeling that just comes out of nowhere. Like, if you hear Adele, my little love, like, at the end, she's really saying it. Like, it's like, I'm. I'm cool with. With being alone. I like to be alone. I like to watch movies and be alone. But today I just feel so. I feel so lonely. And I feel like, am I gonna be, like, lonely forever? You get those feelings when you're, like, alone. But don't let that get you desperate neither. You know what I'm saying? Don't let start dating somebody and give them the box. And then it's like you gave a box to buy that is gonna ghost you. Ghost you and stuff like that. Like. Or just like, it was like, oh, I gave. I gave some to the wrong.
- [29:09]
Charlamagne Tha God
You can't even do that no more because you cardi b all these want to tell on you.
- [29:12]
Cardi B
I definitely can't do that. And. And it's not even that I definitely can do that. Like, is that I don't really like people. I'm really a person that is. Like, I don't really like guys like that. Like, not guys. Like, I'm some gay or some. But it's like.
- [29:27]
Charlamagne Tha God
You say on the album, you'd be gay for the right girl, though.
- [29:31]
Cardi B
I'll do something with a girl, but I could never be. I'm not a relationship with a girl type of girl.
- [29:37]
Charlamagne Tha God
Gotcha.
- [29:37]
Cardi B
It's just not my thing. I'm sorry, girl. Like, I need somebody to protect me. You can do cheap. Very good.
- [29:44]
Angela Yee
Who was dating Cardigan?
- [29:47]
Charlamagne Tha God
She sound like Dame Dash?
- [29:49]
Cardi B
I'm sorry, girl.
- [29:50]
Angela Yee
No, I'm sorry, girl. What was I like? Oh, what was date like when you were dating? Because we didn't really. I mean, yeah, we didn't really get to see it much. It was literally like, we just heard about Stefan Diggs, and now it's like you are locked in. What was Cardi b like in dating? Like, were you going out places? Were you, like, answering dms? How were you even getting hooked up with people? Like, were you ghosting people? What was that? Like?
- [30:17]
Cardi B
I really wasn't. I was talking to somebody for, like, a little bit. I never kiss them, make out with them. They even link up with them. I just. I was talking to Stefan. Sometimes I. I stopped. Sometimes I didn't because I was just so scared. I was just. I just needed my time. I. I needed some time. I, I. I needed. I need. I needed time. And then it's like, you know what? I'm gonna give it a chance, but I'm not gonna put too much in it. Like, it's like, girl, like, men are weird. Not men are weird. It's just like, men. It's just. It's scary. Dating is scary.
- [30:59]
Angela Yee
Being vulnerable with a person again after what you went through is what you're scared of, or what were you scared of?
- [31:05]
Cardi B
Of everything. Just. Just. I don't. I don't know. I was just scared. It's scary scared out there. And then being in your 30s and stuff like that and letting people in your world and. And the things that people will put in your head. But I gave it a chance. Now I'm here. Were you?
- [31:25]
Charlamagne Tha God
They're gonna be picking apart this album because some of these songs sound like you talking about your new relationship.
- [31:30]
Cardi B
I am.
- [31:30]
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, okay.
- [31:31]
Cardi B
I am. Because. Because it's like, I started to feel like it. Yeah, a lot of. A lot of songs is about him because it's like when you date and you, like, experiencing certain things that it's like you haven't experienced in a long Time like, it's like, I think I really like this guy. Oh, I got butterflies and stuff like that. Oh, he playing with me.
- [31:51]
Charlamagne Tha God
I'm like, was it the castle?
- [31:53]
Cardi B
No. Oh, we, we've been, we've been talking before. Before that. Okay, so we've been talking before that. It was just really like a talking thing. Talking. Sometimes we didn't. Sometimes we did. It just really was getting to know each other before you really come. Before we really come in our world. Like, I don't belong to you, you don't belong to me. When I. Now you belong to me.
- [32:19]
Charlamagne Tha God
I wonder if he's ready for this new world, though, because I saw him get questioned in the locker room the other day.
- [32:24]
Cardi B
He's a little different from. Yeah, he's a little different. And, and, and they press and they world is way different from mine to stuff like that. So. But you know, what's up? You see what it is over here?
- [32:39]
Charlamagne Tha God
You pregnant? Yeah.
- [32:44]
Angela Yee
For you. Were you scared when you found out that you were pregnant? Like, were you scared about people's thoughts, opinions, anything? What were you thinking when you found out?
- [32:54]
Cardi B
Ah, certain times I was scared and then certain time I was just. I just wasn't like. Because if, if I want to have a baby and I want to have a career, I'm going to, I'm going to get it. I'm gonna get everything that I want. You just gotta, you just gotta work and you can't complain. Oh, my fear. Well, you know, you, you know the consequences. You know the consequences. Yeah. People are gonna, like, like so many people have different opinions. Like, yesterday was a lot. It was a lot of bad ones. But it's like. And I understand why, because everybody have practically been with me for the past eight years. So it's like I, it's like sometimes it's like my business. Look what you got. But it's like, I can't even do that because you, you, you probably you, you probably like, probably you want best for me or probably you don't. But at the end of the day, like, I kind of get it. And at the end of the day, I'm a public figure. However, like, it's like, it is what it is. I did, I did my decision. I'm growing and I. And I'm happy. I'm excited.
- [34:01]
Angela Yee
So then when you went on to sit down with Gayle King, did you know you were going to, like, that was. You knew you were going to like, tell people you were pregnant? Or did you in the moment just be like, I'm just ready to talk about it.
- [34:11]
Cardi B
I, I, I wanted to talk things on my own term. Like it's like let me, let me put out my tour, let me put out my business. Let me put out everything on time. Like everybody just feel like oh oh hold first of all I, I don't ever tell if, if people notice. Like I don't tell right away that I'm pregnant either. I'm very superstitious. Things things just happen all the time and I do believe that that people speak evil on your on on your on especially when you're pregnant. Oh I hope the baby cross eyed is maybe stupid or something like that. I there's, there's wicked people that, that really do that do that. So it's like I don't even like to put it out there. I wasn't hiding. I couldn't hide. Like I, I had to work, I had to do so. I ain't hiding from nobody. But it's like damn, let me say it. Let me secure certain deals. Let me tell, let me tell these white folks like hey, I got this at a certain time. Like let, let me, let me close shit up is I want to say it on my time and I did say it on my time. Would have been a difference if I wouldn't just say nothing and would and I would have came out like hey, yeah, so I just had a baby. It wouldn't make no difference to you because I was going to still have it whether I would tell you or not.
- [35:36]
Charlamagne Tha God
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- [36:53]
Cardi B
Our guest on Los Culturistas.
- [36:55]
Charlamagne Tha God
It is Bradley Jackson.
- [36:57]
Cardi B
Jackson. Elle Woods.
- [36:58]
Charlamagne Tha God
Tracy Flick. Herself. Reese Witherspoon.
- [37:02]
Cardi B
Reese, we must go in. A girls trip. I have to have a tequila.
- [37:08]
Charlamagne Tha God
We must. Oh, the Q rating. When they run diagnostics, we can run.
- [37:13]
Cardi B
It on you guys.
- [37:15]
Charlamagne Tha God
I'd be scared. Don't run the Q rating.
- [37:17]
Cardi B
No, I'm the Q rating.
- [37:20]
Charlamagne Tha God
My resiliency score is down to adequate because we were on a red eye. My resiliency.
- [37:26]
Cardi B
Where's your grit?
- [37:27]
Charlamagne Tha God
My grit? I gotta get my grit score up. Now, don't think that you're gonna come on Las Culturistas, the podcast. And we're not gonna at least bring up Big Little Lies, season three.
- [37:38]
Cardi B
Whoever said orange is the new pink?
- [37:42]
Charlamagne Tha God
Seriously disturbed. Listen to Las culturistas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jorge Ramos.
- [37:51]
Angela Yee
And I'm Paula Ramos.
- [37:53]
Charlamagne Tha God
Together we're launching the Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time as uncertain as this one.
- [38:00]
Cardi B
We sit down with politicians.
- [38:02]
Charlamagne Tha God
I would be the first immigrant mayor.
- [38:04]
Cardi B
In generations, but 40% of New Yorkers were born outside of this country. Artists and activists. I mean, do you ever feel demoralized?
- [38:12]
Charlamagne Tha God
I might personally lose hope.
- [38:14]
Cardi B
This individual might lose the faith, but there's an institution that doesn't lose faith.
- [38:20]
Charlamagne Tha God
And that's what I believed in to.
- [38:22]
Cardi B
Bring you depth and analysis from a unique Latino perspective. There's not a single day that Paola and I don't call or text each.
- [38:29]
Charlamagne Tha God
Other, sharing news and thoughts about what's happening in the country. This new podcast will be a way to make that ongoing intergenerational conversation public.
- [38:39]
Cardi B
Listen to the Moment with Jorge Ramos.
- [38:42]
Angela Yee
And Paula Ramos as part of the.
- [38:43]
Cardi B
My Cultura podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Do you want to hear the secrets of serial killers, psychopaths, pedophiles, robbers?
- [38:55]
Charlamagne Tha God
They are sitting there waiting for the vulnerable thing.
- [38:58]
Cardi B
They're waiting for the unprotected. I'm Dr. Leslie, forensic psychologist. I advocate for safety and awareness of predators while wearing pink. When you were described to me as.
- [39:09]
Angela Yee
A forensic psychologist, I was like, snooze. We ended up talking for hours and.
- [39:13]
Cardi B
I was like, this girl is my best friend. This is a podcast where I cut through the noise with sarcasm, satire and hard truths. I'm not gonna fake it and force it, but would you force an orgasm? Because that's like a different layer.
- [39:26]
Angela Yee
The car accident you didn't want to.
- [39:28]
Cardi B
See but couldn't turn away from. In this episode, I discuss personal safety.
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Angela Yee
And self defense, tools, instincts and strategies.
- [39:36]
Cardi B
To protect yourself and your loved ones in everyday life and high risk situations. Listen to Intentionally disturbing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. But let me do it on my thing. Damn. I. I just. I literally have a video. I just told my mom yesterday. I told my mom yesterday. I told my dad three days ago. Like, it's like, let me do things on my time. What they say my dad, he was like, boy or girl? Okay. And then my mom was like, yeah, I know. I just. I don't know why you dog. Clearly, I got eyes. Everybody got eyes.
- [40:14]
Angela Yee
I mean. Yeah, well, now. But she was dreaming.
- [40:17]
Charlamagne Tha God
She probably dreamt of fish or playing.
- [40:19]
Cardi B
No, it's not even about, like parents. Like, it's like, even my fans. I think my fans could probably tell that I'm pregnant the day. The day that, like, my stomach don't even look flat because they kind of peeped it from a hot minute ago.
- [40:29]
Angela Yee
Culture's birthday party is when. The first time I peeped, you were in a red T shirt. It was like a long shirt. And I sent it to our group chat. I was like, do Cardi look pregnant? I was like, no, I'm tripping.
- [40:39]
Cardi B
Like they been pee.
- [40:40]
Angela Yee
Yeah, I was like, maybe I'm tripping.
- [40:42]
Cardi B
They. They've been people. These people, they know me so well. They. They. Ben, you would even. You'll be surprised the day that they peep. And the day that they peep is like, damn. Yeah. Y' all be clocking me so bad.
- [40:54]
Charlamagne Tha God
And you be wanting to tell them too, don't you?
- [40:57]
Cardi B
No, no, not really. I'd be wanting to tell them la. No, you're wrong. But they're not wrong.
- [41:02]
Angela Yee
How do you handle.
- [41:03]
Charlamagne Tha God
Hold on. Ask me something about the album, right? The pleasure principle sample. Was it hard getting Janet Jackson to clear?
- [41:10]
Cardi B
It was. It wasn't hard. It wasn't. This how I know that she really likes me. Because everybody said that it's very, very hard for them to clear anything because I think it's like the Jackson State.
- [41:22]
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
- [41:22]
Cardi B
Yeah. And that's how I know they really like me. They even was, like, asking, like, it's like, oh, can we do. Can y' all do this? Can we do that? It's like, oh, whatever the hell y' all want me to do. Like, sure. But I could tell she really with me because she didn't. And it's two samples.
- [41:41]
Charlamagne Tha God
There's two.
- [41:42]
Cardi B
Yes. It's on my back. Funny how time things fly.
- [41:45]
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
- [41:46]
Cardi B
Yes. Like, I. I be joking around. Like, it's like, this album should have been Cardi featuring Janet Jackson, but she just. It was just so many good ones I could have picked.
- [41:57]
Charlamagne Tha God
Did you let her hear the records beforehand?
- [41:58]
Cardi B
Yeah, you have to. She have to listen to it.
- [42:00]
Charlamagne Tha God
And she was like, I fuck with it.
- [42:01]
Cardi B
Yeah, she fuck with it.
- [42:02]
Charlamagne Tha God
Damn. So you got Janet Jackson and Jay Z to clear some shit. Who made you more nervous? And could you have. Could you have handled the rejection if they was like, nah.
- [42:12]
Cardi B
I would. I would have handled it. I would handle it. Because it's like, it's not like. It's not like. Because it's just like, me or is it personal? They don't really do it for nobody. So I feel like, because we're imaginary players, like, I worked on it for a long time that I would have. If. If he wouldn't clear it, I would have been like, I. I get it. But it felt really good when he cleared it. Like, I was like, you really like my record?
- [42:42]
Charlamagne Tha God
Absolutely.
- [42:43]
Angela Yee
Was there ever any conversation about Janet Jackson putting, like, coming on? Like, putting, you know, singing on anything, talking on anything? Like, actually being newly on the album as well, too?
- [42:54]
Cardi B
Wasn't because, like, the. It's. It's like sample, but, like, it's a little bit, like. I don't know. It's like. It's like, different. It wouldn't have, like, fit. But I do want to work with her, though. Like, for real. For real. Because she really. She really with me. I with her.
- [43:15]
Angela Yee
Have y' all built, like, now y' all having conversations outside of just that song? Since going through that process and having to be in communication during that time, I'm very shy.
- [43:22]
Cardi B
I don't like to talk to artists. Everybody knows that about me. I do not like talking to artists like that. Every, like.
- [43:28]
Charlamagne Tha God
And you and Janet will both be standing there whispering at each other. Anybody got time for all that? I'm gonna get you out of here because I know you want to eat, but I. I haven't seen you spazzing online a lot lately. What made you. Slow that down? You ain't spazzing a Minute.
- [43:45]
Cardi B
I don't know. I kind of did, like. I kind of did, like, two weeks ago because I feel like I'm getting picked on again.
- [43:54]
Charlamagne Tha God
What was it two weeks ago? I don't remember that.
- [43:56]
Cardi B
It. It. It was. It was kind of mild. Okay, probably like two weeks. Probably like a week. But I don't know. I just been so. I. I just been so busy.
- [44:05]
Angela Yee
Who you feel like you were talking about the, like, the.
- [44:08]
Cardi B
You.
- [44:08]
Angela Yee
It was going at, like, the podcasters and the blogs and people reviewing and talking about you musically. Right? Was that it?
- [44:13]
Cardi B
It's not even talking about me. It's like, everything. Like, you know, like, you guys. You guys talk about. You guys, you guys talk about people, but it's like, imagine if you, like, come every single day and talk about one person every single day, every single time, and then it's like, all right, you don't do it for this person, so why you do it to me? But. And it's constant. And it's constant, and it's every week. Like, it's like, I like, like, what's up now? You got my attention. For real.
- [44:46]
Angela Yee
Is that why you did this rollout? Because a lot from that, the conversation has been cardi did the Upper Brow outlets. Like, you sat with Gayle King, you sat with Kelly Rowland. You're here with the Breakfast Club, but you didn't do a lot of that Upper Brow. I mean, but we are. We're the intersection between the righteous and the ratchet.
- [45:00]
Cardi B
But, no, but these are, like, these are my people. I know these people.
- [45:03]
Angela Yee
People feel like you didn't because of that rant that, like, we've seen. People have been going to a lot of, like, podcasts, and they're sitting with you. I know you're gonna do a stream, right?
- [45:11]
Cardi B
I. I have. I did. I did podcast, though. They just haven't come out yet. Okay, I did do some podcasts, but I'm gonna do podcasts with people that. That like me. Like, why do I gotta sit with podcasters that I don't like? I'm going. I'm like, like, for what? Like, if you don't like me, like, why am I gonna go to your. Like, so I could. Like, what? Prove. Prove what to you? Like, you don't like me, and it is what it is. Then.
- [45:36]
Charlamagne Tha God
Then you pregnant, so you can't swing on nobody if you want to.
- [45:39]
Cardi B
No, I don't hit people. Then, like, I see a lot of people going, like, to stre. I really like. I like thanu. So I'm planning To, to, to do a stream with him. Like when I. Real soon though, not like right now because I have so much on my schedule. Like when I feel like genuine love, like, is that I'm gonna go to him. I'm not really like a streamer person. Like, I'm not up to date to that because I'm just old. Like, I'm 33, but I know the younger kids like it, but it's like, it's not really like my thing. Like, even on Tick Tock and stuff. Like, you don't see me doing Tick Tock dances. Not because it's something wrong with it. I'm just, I'm just a little older and I just don't know how to do that and do this video ten goddamn times. I'm tired already. Like what I like and what I see on my, on my, on my timeline, that's, that's who I'm gonna go to. Like, if I like you, I'm gonna.
- [46:37]
Charlamagne Tha God
Go to you and you pregnant. Like, you ain't got time to be sitting down with nobody.
- [46:40]
Cardi B
You don't. I can't, I cannot even say pregnant because I've been doing everything. I have literally done everything and anything. Like, even after those days in court, I was still doing like, I, I have 6am mornings to all the way. Like today, Like, I woke up today at 6am My night is gonna finish at 3am because that's when my party finished. Then tomorrow I have to wake up and I have to do these meet and greets and I have to meet about four or five thousand people. Like, it's like, it just don't stop for me. But it's like, I'm not gonna go to podcasters that I don't like. Why am I gonna go sit down with you? You don't like me. You talk mad about me. You constipate. You concert, like, contribute to, to, to my pain. You contribute like, to my pressure. So why am I gonna sit down with your ass? I'm gonna sit down with people. Not like, oh, because people like, oh, you sit down with people that kiss your eyes. No, I like positive people. I like people that make me feel good. I like people that be like, you know what? I like them. I could hang out with them. If I don't like you, why am I sitting down with you? To prove what point.
- [47:40]
Charlamagne Tha God
You know, people think you actually pay me. They think you pay me to talk good about you.
- [47:44]
Cardi B
No, I don't. I just really. And I, I really just be talking to charlamagne not all the time. Like, sometimes you won't even be. You would even believe the things that we talk about. What we talk about the most. Politics.
- [47:55]
Charlamagne Tha God
That's right. That's true.
- [47:56]
Cardi B
That's what really we be talking to most of. The. Most of the time. That's what we really be talking about. Even the other day, I was so busy, but I was gonna hit you up. Like, it's like, I would have had some jokes for you. I would have some jokes for you not even to be messy, but, like, to be messy. But it's like, I. I know you could have came harder. Charlemagne, come on.
- [48:15]
Angela Yee
Are you talking about he was being called a girl?
- [48:18]
Cardi B
Yeah. Like, it's like, well, I'm being called a girl. Like, it's like you telling me that I'm not securing my woman. My woman is financially secure, though.
- [48:27]
Charlamagne Tha God
That's a fact.
- [48:28]
Angela Yee
So ain't nothing wrong being financially daughter.
- [48:31]
Cardi B
Birthday about her like a bar mitzvah. Like, you can't talk to me. You asking NBA if you got a view. Have you seen that in a house? I have seen his wife's closet. I'll never leave.
- [48:48]
Charlamagne Tha God
Thank you for coming to my daughter's sweet 16, though. That was amazing. Because that is like a black ball. Mitch for right. Like, it's fly to see black and brown people doing shit like that.
- [48:56]
Cardi B
Yeah. And everybody. It just made me realize, like, it's like, wow. So this how my daughter birthday gonna be when 16. The word all white folks, huh?
- [49:03]
Angela Yee
Oh, culture is, baby. I don't know by.
- [49:11]
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes. Especially when you live. Especially when you live.
- [49:14]
Angela Yee
She gonna have been famous for a long time at that point. Pulling up to the fashion shows.
- [49:18]
Cardi B
Yeah.
- [49:19]
Angela Yee
It's gonna be very upper brow, very white.
- [49:21]
Cardi B
No, it's not even. It's just like.
- [49:22]
Angela Yee
It's just her cousin's gonna be there.
- [49:25]
Cardi B
You had to be at that party so you could see, like, wow. You. You. You would just have, like, an understanding of, like, what the schools are like over there.
- [49:33]
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes, exactly.
- [49:34]
Cardi B
So sometimes I be thinking, like, it's like, damn, my kid don't got flavor like that. But that's why they don't have no flavor like that. But she got you.
- [49:40]
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, we saw culture the other day, Coach Dwayne.
- [49:43]
Angela Yee
Yeah, we talked about it earlier.
- [49:45]
Cardi B
But. But they. They so innocent. They so innocent over there. They. They're innocent in Jersey.
- [49:50]
Charlamagne Tha God
But that is interesting, right? Because you're raising your kids in. In. In a mansion, right? In Jersey. But you grew up in the Bronx. How do you make sure they don't Grow up spoiled. Because that's what I be trying to focus on.
- [50:00]
Cardi B
They spoil, hang.
- [50:02]
Charlamagne Tha God
And it's not even that they spoil. They don't know nothing else.
- [50:04]
Cardi B
They don't know nothing else, but they, they do. As you know what I noticed? As long as they were their cousin, they don't care where they at, because when they be in my grandma's house or like when they was in Dr. In the country country, they, they, I kept calling like, are you guys okay? They've, they was. As long as they were their cousin, kids are okay. They just gotta be with their cousins. That's the trick. They gotta be with their cousins. They're gonna have a good time anywhere as long as their cousins is around, friends around.
- [50:34]
Charlamagne Tha God
Do you. What's up with Hennessy? I see you got her tattooed on your arm and it seemed like, Hennessy be, be on the loaf. Is that on purpose?
- [50:42]
Cardi B
I don't, but I don't know why she became such an introvert.
- [50:45]
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
- [50:45]
Cardi B
Out of nowhere. Because my sister, she really have. We're really like, almost the same person. The same person. Like, we have the same attitude, the same, we talk the same everything. We do have, like, we are a little different in certain ways, but she just, she just like an introvert. And sometimes I wish that she was more out there, but then it's like, maybe she shouldn't be out there because she's just, she's a bomb. My sister's a bomb. But I do be wishing that she's, like, more out there because she was.
- [51:25]
Angela Yee
Doing a fashion thing at one point. Yeah, she was, like, designing and she was doing that. I thought that was gonna be like, her thing. Yeah, she was, she was good.
- [51:34]
Cardi B
What could we say about Hennessy? She's just a little sister. I, I, I, I made a joke with my mom yesterday. I was like, for every year that Hennessy don't have a baby, I' ma have one.
- [51:46]
Charlamagne Tha God
Damn. Jesus.
- [51:51]
Angela Yee
Christian is like, what the hell, Cardi?
- [51:53]
Cardi B
And my mom didn't find the joke funny.
- [51:57]
Charlamagne Tha God
Did being in the Bronx keep you grounded?
- [52:01]
Cardi B
Grounded as in what?
- [52:02]
Charlamagne Tha God
Just grounded. Like, keep your feet on the ground, let you know it's always really important. All this industry and everything just keeps you grounded. Do you find your peace in the, in when you home in the Bronx is what I'm saying.
- [52:14]
Cardi B
Yeah, I have, I have fun. I, I personally like going over there because it's fun to me. Like, it's like when you, like, in your backyard all day, you get bored. It's silence.
- [52:26]
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah.
- [52:27]
Cardi B
And then you can't bring everybody to your house. Like, you can't bring everybody to your house. I'm gonna go to the block. But you gotta know how to be in the block. You can't do too much. Like, I'm not gonna go to the block. And I'm dressed up. Makeover. I'll be in sweats and everything. You never know when I. When I'm there. You just never know. But I be there. Just. It just feels good. I'm chilling. I'm with my friends.
- [52:49]
Angela Yee
You are people, you know.
- [52:50]
Cardi B
Yeah.
- [52:51]
Angela Yee
I want to go back to something you had said. You said that you are shy around other artists, which. It's hard.
- [52:55]
Charlamagne Tha God
You gotta eat too now.
- [52:56]
Angela Yee
Okay. This, this. I was trying to get this in earlier.
- [52:59]
Cardi B
I think you try to eat. No, you.
- [53:01]
Angela Yee
We just wanna make sure you eat. You eating for two.
- [53:03]
Charlamagne Tha God
I know you tired.
- [53:04]
Cardi B
Yes.
- [53:05]
Charlamagne Tha God
You know what I'm saying?
- [53:06]
Cardi B
I'm good.
- [53:07]
Angela Yee
You said you shy around other artists and you kinda to yourself. Is that because you've been like burned in the past by like trying to develop relationships? I saw the Kelly Roland interview where you said you have reached out to the young girls that's come up and then you found out it was dealing with your man behind your X Men behind your back.
- [53:22]
Cardi B
Is that. It's not. That is one of. Oh, well, the original question is no. I'm just naturally like shy around people and stuff like that. And then it's like sometimes it's like some people you just cannot relate into. Relate with them with like if. If I'm in a room with like a certain artist, right? And we grew up differently. We grew up in different places. What are we talking about? So it's like.
- [53:51]
Charlamagne Tha God
So that dumbass small talk.
- [53:54]
Cardi B
I hate, like, it's like I hate small talk. Like, where are we in the eating dinner for? What are we talking about? I'd rather just us be in the club. We don't got to talk at all. Just turn up and drink. I don't really like. What is there talk about? Like, we don't have nothing in common. For real. Like, I'm. But there is certain, like, girls, though, that I feel like I. I had supported because I genuinely like their music and I'm playing their music. Not because I need something from them. I'm playing it because it's like this, this song is hot right now. This is the song that I'm putting on repeat. And I don't. I don't expect you to kiss my ass or be on dick or nothing like that, but it's like you supporting a bitch and the. And bitches really dead don't like you. And it's like, damn, this is why you even got to be careful whose song you playing. You gotta be even careful who, whose song you playing. Because it's like you playing a bitch song because you like it and the bitch really just don't fuck with you. And there's some bitches. Like it's like you be, you'll be asking yourself like it's like, damn, did I, did I say something that sounded like I was stubbing somebody or something? And it's like, no, you just my. But that's, that's not all. That's not all.
- [55:19]
Charlamagne Tha God
Is this one person in particular?
- [55:21]
Cardi B
No, it's a couple. Oh God, there's a couple. Oh, it's not even rap girls. If. No, there is rap girls, but there's.
- [55:27]
Angela Yee
A couple because you know, when you said that the other day in an interview, it started the whole guessing game of who you were talking about.
- [55:31]
Cardi B
It's a couple. So a couple. And it'd be weird too because it's like some, some girls, it'd be weird because it's like some girls, like, it's like they will even try to be friends with your friends or try to be friends with this. And it's like, what you coming around for? What you coming around for? It got to the point that it's like I had to start policing my friends. Like, it's like, oh, this girl hit me up. Why she hitting you up? Hit up. But, but, but check the temperature, right? Then it's like, oh, this was. She was coming around is weird.
- [56:11]
Charlamagne Tha God
You know, it's very hard, you know, it's hard for men to tell other men, you hurt my feelings. And it's hard for sometimes women just to be like, yeah, I want to be your friend. I really want to. I want to, I want to with you. Like I want to be your peoples who just whoever the woman is, whoever, whoever these persons talking about. That's why she go to your other friend.
- [56:26]
Cardi B
No, they go to my other friend because they want to know my business was doing.
- [56:31]
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, this is somebody you already know did some.
- [56:33]
Cardi B
Yeah, like it's like, then you start, you start, things start to come out and it's like, ah, you is weird. Cuz I got so I got. I'm very girl coded. I don't do weird like that. I don't do weird stuff like that. Like, I, I don't. Me and my sister, we really, we're like that for real. Like, it's like we don't do weird if I feel like I with you or if I with you. I would never cross you if I with you. Like, I'm very sister coded type of is just weird. Industry is weird. Everybody weird.
- [57:11]
Charlamagne Tha God
You still girl coded though, because you could be putting these girls on blast if you wanted to.
- [57:14]
Angela Yee
You don't be saying no names, child.
- [57:19]
Cardi B
Okay? But they know I got. They know I. And I got receipts. So if I. If you ever try me and try to play. I have receipts. For real. I have receipts. So tread lightly.
- [57:36]
Charlamagne Tha God
Damn. Who these women is Lauren?
- [57:39]
Angela Yee
I don't know that you don't say names. The only I know when you said that.
- [57:42]
Cardi B
Yeah, there's. There's just a. There's just. There's just a. It's. It's a couple. It's a whole bunch.
- [57:47]
Angela Yee
I'm sorry you had to go through that though. It's funny, but it's really not funny. You shouldn't have to deal with that. What, like just being friendly or being encouraging to somebody. That's the most craziest feeling ever. Like, that's funny. Especially because the girl might not owe you nothing, but like your man at the time do.
- [58:06]
Cardi B
No, your man. Your man owes you. Your man owes you. You laying down, your man owes you. But it'd be weird. It'd be weird because it's like, hoes gonna be hoes, right? Hoes gonna be hoes. Bitch is gonna be bitches. But there's girls that really like, will be in your dm. Will really try to be your friend. Will really try to like, come in your world. Will really try to do weird things like befriend your friends. Will. Will really just like. Like there's a. Like I. I scrapped the song, but there's a song that I said like a. Literally hand me flowers in my hand. Because one time I said with a right. I'm like, I feel like you had a problem with me. It was like, no, actually, this is what I. This is what I actually had a problem with you with. And I'm like, that's what you had a problem with me? This. This is not something to have a problem about, baby. Like, we could have been talk about it. And this is really. This is really minor. Like, are you sure? And it's like, you know what? That was stupid. And then they gave me flowers. Literally flower. And I was pregnant too, with my son. Gave me flowers and everything. Then months later I found out you this.
- [59:21]
Angela Yee
Oh, God.
- [59:22]
Cardi B
And. And stuff like that. Be weird to me, because it's like, if a. If a whatever like that. It's like a don't owe you nothing.
- [59:31]
Angela Yee
Just stay over there.
- [59:32]
Cardi B
Just stay over there. But that's how weird and sick are. Like, you're a weirdo. And. And matter of fact, how did that conversation. When. That day, that conversation was like, oh, you're late. And I was like, I'm late. I was doing things. And then when, like, they gave me flowers, I was like, and you know what? I'm sorry I'm late. I'm just going through a lot. I'm pregnant. They're like, oh, you're pregnant? Isn't that. And then it's like, I kept telling myself, this is why niggas be like. Because you can't always blame it on the. But this. How much is weird. Like, so you gave me flowers, and I started out pregnant, and then I find out months later that, you know, you. My. You are. You hoes is crazy. Y' all is crazy.
- [60:14]
Charlamagne Tha God
Do you let them know you know.
- [60:16]
Cardi B
They know I know that girl.
- [60:17]
Angela Yee
Did you go back and y' all had a conversation about it after?
- [60:20]
Cardi B
No, I don't have to have a conversation no more. I. I know, and you know that I know, and you know I have the receipts, the real receipts. I don't even play with receipts. I got them receipts. If I don't. If I don't even have the receipts, I wouldn't talk about it because I have to prove it. I like to prove it. But it's like, it's just like, this is why. It's like, oh, my gosh, I want to stay away from everybody. Everybody. And it's not even about. That's just a. A thing. There's. That is like, I support it. That is like, I support you because, like I said, I like you. And all of a sudden, like, you. You subbing me and you playing Internet games to appease certain people. And it's like, I never even did nothing to you. You know what? Everybody got turned.
- [61:10]
Charlamagne Tha God
You still cool with a lot of the rap girls, though, right?
- [61:12]
Cardi B
Yeah, there is a lot of. There's a lot of, like, the rap girls.
- [61:17]
Charlamagne Tha God
Like Glow Glows.
- [61:18]
Cardi B
Your cousin Glow. I. I with Glow Glow. This. I. I'm never gonna talk about it. One day, probably in 10 years, I'll talk about it. She did some real, real, real. That was like, I appreciate this Megan. I don't really talk to Megan much, but it's like, I' ma always appreciate the fact that, like, when I told her to Come through. She'll come through. Not just like, oh, here's a verse. Like, she will really like, hey, not only do I need a verse from you, I need like 10 days of rehearsals, and I need. Just so we can make it great. Of course not. She don't have to, but she does it. And I always appreciate that. Like, when you make time with a feature artist and they putting that effort that they don't have to do, I will forever appreciate that. Because me, I just want to get a verse done. And if we do a music video, we do a music video. She put her time, everything in it. So I appreciate that. I like lotto a lot. She's very like. Like, she's very honest. She's very cool. She's. She's a very sweet girl. She gave me a Chanel bag. So.
- [62:25]
Charlamagne Tha God
So why did you ask. This is my last question. Why did you ask yourself, am I the drama? And I like that you holding yourself accountable, you know, for what you might be on. But why did you ask yourself that question?
- [62:36]
Cardi B
I mean, because I just always feel like. I just always feel like. Just always come to me or like I said, like, it's like there will be people that just don't like me or they will, like, pick on me or something because you on top. But it always been like that, even when I was, like, in high school.
- [62:58]
Charlamagne Tha God
Because you've always been on top, regardless of the money, your personality, the fact that people naturally gravitate towards you. The fact that people naturally like you. You know, some will hate you just because how everybody else love you.
- [63:08]
Cardi B
Yes. And that's why it's like, damn, am I the drama? Am I the one? And is it me, Jesus? Like, it's like, yes. Why, oh, why? I'm always like. It's like, it's like things could go a certain type of way for me, but it's just not going to go. It's like I don't know if I chase the bad things. I don't know if the bad things is me. I don't. But I'm also very blessed, too. Like, it's like, maybe I'll be thinking it's because my. It is my personality. It is because, like, my voice just stand out. And it always been like that. Which is a. It's. It's a.
- [63:41]
Charlamagne Tha God
It's God.
- [63:42]
Cardi B
It's God. It's a blessing. It's a curse. Sometimes it occurs, but it's really like a blessing because sometimes I feel like I get it harder than. Than most, and I don't care if people say that. They don't see it. They know it. They know it. I really get it hard. Harder than most. But then I. Then again, I am very blessed. And some people might think that it's like, well, she don't get that much because she's still here and she stays in certain things and it's like. Like maybe I am blessed or maybe I just. I don't know.
- [64:12]
Charlamagne Tha God
Well, don't spend all day looking at the comments.
- [64:15]
Cardi B
No, no, no.
- [64:16]
Charlamagne Tha God
Let the album come out.
- [64:17]
Cardi B
Yeah.
- [64:17]
Charlamagne Tha God
Let people have their opinion and you keep it the moving. Okay.
- [64:20]
Cardi B
Yeah. I'm. I'm so happy that I got this. So happy I got this album out. It just feels really good. I'm just really happy. And when you do soon.
- [64:31]
Charlamagne Tha God
Okay.
- [64:31]
Cardi B
I'll tell you.
- [64:32]
Charlamagne Tha God
All right.
- [64:32]
Angela Yee
You'll be rather. No boy or girl yet or.
- [64:34]
Cardi B
No. I do know this is probably the.
- [64:36]
Charlamagne Tha God
Gender reveal part of it.
- [64:44]
Cardi B
No, no, no. You know, I always. I always say when the baby is born, I always reveal the gender. I always do it. I always do that.
- [64:52]
Charlamagne Tha God
Duh, everybody.
- [64:55]
Cardi B
I mean, I don't. I don't. I feel like certain people, they will wait mad long. I. It takes time. And like, I always do it, like when I give birth, then, like, probably like six months later. Yeah, it's always like six months later. I always show my baby, you know, develop. Sometimes they look a little funny. My son was fun looking when he was born.
- [65:16]
Angela Yee
The little album, he said, you gonna give this man a son. So I was like, oh, it's a little boy.
- [65:20]
Cardi B
I was just trying to rhyme it. Oh, trying to rhyme. I was trying to get the blue.
- [65:25]
Charlamagne Tha God
Balloon out and my. The drama's out right now. Salute to big body Body. We appreciate you always, man.
- [65:29]
Angela Yee
Yes.
- [65:30]
Charlamagne Tha God
You know, I. With Barty Body Heavy.
- [65:32]
Angela Yee
And congratulations on the album.
- [65:33]
Cardi B
Thank you.
- [65:34]
Angela Yee
Weight lifted off your shoulder.
- [65:37]
Cardi B
I'm telling you today, Today, it really feels like I don't. I. I don't know if it's my birthday. I don't know if it's like. If it really feels like.
- [65:48]
Charlamagne Tha God
I don't know, like I'm just enjoy the moment.
- [65:51]
Cardi B
I'm. I'm enjoying it. Well, I can't really enjoy because I'm tired as hell and I got a lot of work to do. Damn, I gotta go to all these. All these meet and greets and stuff. That's what I'm like, oh, God, am I gonna be able to do all that? But I'm gonna do it. But I woke up this morning and I wanted, like, to cry and I'm like, what the I want to cry for? It's a lot.
- [66:11]
Charlamagne Tha God
Tear the joy. Yeah, absolutely. It's cardi b. It's the Breakfast Club.
- [66:16]
Cardi B
Hold up.
- [66:17]
Charlamagne Tha God
Every day I wake up. Wake your ass up. The Breakfast Club. You don't finish or y' all done it.
- [66:23]
Cardi B
Foreign and I'm Michael F. Florio, and.
- [66:28]
Charlamagne Tha God
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Cardi B
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Angela Yee
Hi, it's Jimmy Spag, host of the psychology of your 20s. This September at the psychology of your 20s, we're breaking down the very interesting ways psychology applies to real life, like why we crave external validation. I find it so interesting that we are so quick to believe others judgments of us and not our own judgment of ourselves. So according to the study, not liked actually creates similar pain levels as real life physical pain. Learn more about the psychology of everyday life and of course, your 20s this September. Listen to the psychology of your 20s on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Charlamagne Tha God
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Cardi B
Hi, it's honey German, and I'm back with season two of my podcast, Gracias. Come again.
- [68:10]
Angela Yee
We got you when it comes to.
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Cardi B
The latest in music and entertainment with.
- [68:13]
Angela Yee
Interviews with some of your favorite Latin artists and celebrities.
- [68:16]
Cardi B
You didn't have to audition.
- [68:17]
Charlamagne Tha God
No, I didn' audition. I haven't auditioned like over 25 years.
- [68:21]
Angela Yee
Oh, wow.
- [68:22]
Cardi B
That's a real G talk right there.
- [68:24]
Charlamagne Tha God
Oh, yeah.
- [68:25]
Cardi B
We'll talk about all that's viral and.
- [68:27]
Angela Yee
Trending with a little bit of cheeseman.
- [68:29]
Cardi B
And a whole lot of laughs. And of course, the great beas you've come to expect. Listen to the new season of Gracias. Come Again on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast.
- [68:42]
Angela Yee
This is an iHeart podcast.