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INTERVIEW: Claressa Shields Talks Upcoming Fight, Relationship With Papoose, Turning Down ‘Baddies’ Role +More
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Brendan Patrick Hughes
You're listening to an iHeart podcast.
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DJ Envy
Wake that ass up early in the morning.
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Clarissa Shields
The Breakfast Club.
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Charlamagne tha God
Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlemagne the God we are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. The champ is here.
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DJ Envy
Yes, indeed.
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Charlamagne tha God
Clarissa Shields. Welcome.
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Just Hilarious
What's up, girl?
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Clarissa Shields
I feel good. I'm happy to be here.
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DJ Envy
How you feeling? You got to fight. July 26th.
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Clarissa Shields
Yes.
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DJ Envy
Little Caesar's arena in Detroit against Lanny Daniels.
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Clarissa Shields
Yeah. Always excited to fight a girl, man. Always excited. Defense some more. World championship. She got two belts.
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DJ Envy
Okay.
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Clarissa Shields
She from New Zealand. She supposed to be tough, so I look forward to fighting her.
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DJ Envy
How do y' all pick the fights? Like who.
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Clarissa Shields
Who.
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DJ Envy
Who helps you decide who your next opponent gonna be?
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Clarissa Shields
We just go whoever the best is.
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DJ Envy
Okay.
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Clarissa Shields
And then if the best turn us down, we go to second best. And then if second best, we go third best. This fight we went for Hannah Gabriel, the girl that dropped me in Detroit a couple years back. I wanted to rematch her, and she turned us down.
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Charlamagne tha God
Do a lot of people turn you down? Is it hard for you to find an opponent?
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Clarissa Shields
Yeah, well, you know, I'm champ at five different weight classes, so when I was at 154 and 160 and 168. Now I'm at 175. And when I was at 154, these girls who are fighting at 154 now wouldn't fight me. You know, I literally had to go up. It was like, okay. I. I challenged the girls who was at 147, but they didn't want to fight. I initially went down because I wanted to fight against the 147 champion, Cecilia Brockett, at the time. And she told me that I was too fat to get down to 54. So when I got the 54 and beat up all the girls at 54, I said, now is your time. And she said, I'm not. She said she wasn't fighting me. So I was like, well, damn, that was a waste of a waste of time coming down to 154 because I barely made that weight.
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DJ Envy
Are you scared to lose?
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Clarissa Shields
What do you mean, am I scared to lose a fight?
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DJ Envy
Yeah, if you lose a fight, these.
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Clarissa Shields
Girls can't beat me. What I gotta be scared of?
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DJ Envy
Absolutely.
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Clarissa Shields
Come on, now.
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DJ Envy
I know, but I just know a lot of fighters be wanting that perfect record. And when they. If they do lose, they don't bounce back the same sometimes.
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Clarissa Shields
Well, I don't know them about them, but I know me. I think I trained Too hard and that I'm too gifted, and I'm just mean in there. I mean, you know what it is? Like, I'm just real mean. I'm real dominant. I'm very confident, and I know that I'm very hard to beat. And I don't. If. Listen, if a girl can beat me, I will get on my knees and kiss her feet and tell her, good job. That's how I know it's not gonna happen.
- [02:27]
Just Hilarious
So do you study the people. You study the people that you fight, like, Lainey Daniels? Have you, like, gone down a rabbit hole of her highlights and stuff like that?
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Clarissa Shields
It doesn't take me long to watch the highlights. I watch the highlights and I watch a girl fight and I say, oh, okay, I. I know what I need to do with her. It doesn't take me long to watch it. But I do other research. You know, I go and watch interviews of her just talking. I go and look at news articles. I. I learned about her life. What was her childhood like, you know, what she been through in life. Like, I go and do, like, deep.
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Just Hilarious
Like you study deeper than fighting. What does that do for you in the ring? Like, how does that.
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Clarissa Shields
The trash talk. You know, you got to get in the head. You know, some of these girls, you know, some. Some of these girls, you want to piss them off. They be having a good game plan, but once you piss them off, the game plan go out the window. Like they just want to kill you. And I think that's what I did with Savannah Marshall. Like, I went and did my research on her, and then I started. I tried trash talking to her, and then when. When we got face to face, and whenever I seen her, I just used to say stuff to her, and it would. And I know that what I would say will play over and over again in her head. And then when we fought, her coach and her game plan was to stand in the center of the ring and fight me, which was like, that's dumb, you know, you six, two. I'm five nine. You should have been on your jab at least to give you a better chance at winning. But she came out there trying to, you know, fight like she can knock me out and almost got her ass knocked out.
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Just Hilarious
Damn.
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Charlamagne tha God
I wanted to go back a little bit. Last time you came here, you were promoting your movie.
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Clarissa Shields
Yes.
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Charlamagne tha God
And we didn't. I didn't get. None of us got a chance to see the movie because the movie didn't come out yet. And I seen the movie and I wanted to talk about that your childhood growing up a little bit, because we didn't discuss it last time, because we didn't see the movie. So after being a champion for that young, for that long, nobody gave you endorsement deals, Nobody put you on the COVID of those cereal companies. There was no money coming in. I'm sitting there like, this is crazy, because you were a champ, and how did that happen? And how did you not hate the sport of boxing and say f this because you weren't even like, the fact that you're winning and you still have to go back to Michigan and still have to go back to some of the places that you were is crazy. Especially when you see a lot of white girls getting all that money.
- [04:37]
Clarissa Shields
Yeah, well, honestly, I feel like back then, me being 17 years old, me being from Flint, Michigan, me being just. I was. I was rough around the edges. You know, I'm. I'm more put together now. And I can say that back then, I didn't understand what the branding part of it was. You know, how they want you to talk. You've seen in the movie. You know, how they want you to wear your hair, how they want you to dress or how you supposed to dress. Like, what's the ideal American golden girl? And for me, it was all about the accolades. It was like, yeah, you can have the makeup and the hair and look good, but it. But if you can do all that and then you don't win the fights, then who cares? To me, winning has always been the number one thing to do, and I think that that had a part to play in it. And then also, women's boxing being fairly new, there is no way possible to make women's boxing look good. Now. I know I make it look good now, but that's when I'm outside the ring, inside the ring, you get what you get. You know, I come there, I have my hair braided. Excuse me. I come there in my wig to the actual fight. I have my dress on. I have my wig on. I have my. My makeup on. I go in the back room. Once we get to the back, after the grand arrival, I'm. I'm wiping all the makeup off. I mean, wiping the edge control off, because the edge control. Sweating again, your eyes. And then I'll be taking the knee like Javante.
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Just Hilarious
You know what I'm saying?
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Clarissa Shields
I'm not doing that.
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Just Hilarious
Don't work, though. That. That's not how it works.
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Clarissa Shields
Well, Javante, he didn't have edge control. He said it was grease. Edge control burn. I know from experience, you don't wear edge control to the gym.
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Just Hilarious
So that does happen.
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Clarissa Shields
Edge control. I don't know about no grease now, but edge control, yes. It starts sweating in your eye. It burned like hell. So when I. When I go in the back, I take everything off to the lashes, to everything. The edge control. And then I get in the ring and I fight. But after the fight is over with, after I done went 10 rounds, sometime less, I'd be kind of bruised up sometime and sore. I still go and put my wig back on.
- [06:36]
Charlamagne tha God
That's crazy.
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Clarissa Shields
I have my girls do my makeup, I put my clothes on, put my bodysuit on, put my heels on, and we go out and we party. And that is like the balance you have to find. But it's not an easy balance to have. Like, a lot of times I be wanting to go home, you know, and I'll be wanting to lay down and I gotta ice my face and my body after fighting for days. And then I can come back outside and look refreshed. But it's not always that simple. So I think it was hard to make back then. I didn't care about making boxing be pretty. It was like, look, this is what you get. You want a female boxer? This is what you get. You get muscles, you get grit, you get a hard punch. You get me talking shit to these girls and tell them how bad I'm gonna beat them. And like, that's what you get. But now I can manage it better. Cause I'm. I think I'm better experienced now, you.
- [07:27]
DJ Envy
Know, I watched the Fire Inside and I thought to myself, you know, Cause it shows so much of your personal life. What version of Clarissa Shields do you think would have emerged without boxing?
- [07:37]
Clarissa Shields
I'd be in jail. Damn, that's flat out, period. And I would say, I'll be in jail or dead. Because boxing helped me with my anger, you know, and. And I'm 30 years old and I still deal with my anger now. But back then I was. I was way meaner. I. I didn't have an understanding of why I had to go through things that I went through, why my upbringing was so tough. And I was angry about that. Boxing helped me relieve some of that anger. It helped me direct it towards something more positive. So I know without boxing, I would have been street fighting, fighting girls, they used to call me bishop in my hood because they wanted me to sell drugs. Because I was the one. I could go tell you, I can. Hey. He said, give him this. And then running back. But it was just like, for me, I was like, I don't. I didn't want that type of lifestyle, you know what I'm saying? But I know without boxing, that would have happened. Some people, like, say, oh, you would. Oh, you would have been pregnant. But I didn't even like my first boy till I was 15 years old. I didn't like. I didn't mean to say first boy. Cause they didn't think it's a girl. But I didn't like anything till I was 15. I like boxing. And then when I was 15, I realized that a boy was cute to me. And that's when I'm like, okay, so I guess I'm not gay. Cool.
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Just Hilarious
You thought she was gay at first because you like.
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Clarissa Shields
I just didn't like nothing. I thought I was weird. Well, anything. I was gay. I thought I was weird.
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DJ Envy
Well, that's normal, though, 15, that's where your mind should be at. You should be thinking about no boys or no girls at 15.
- [09:05]
Clarissa Shields
Yeah, shoot. All my. All my friends have boyfriends since 11 to 10 years old. Beating up, training, running to the gym, drinking water, eating healthy, giving myself a 10 o' clock, a 10pm curfew to be in bed, 6am, get up and go run to school. That was. That was my life.
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Charlamagne tha God
What happened to the coach and trainer? Do y' all still speak?
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Clarissa Shields
Yeah, me and Jason still speak.
- [09:25]
Charlamagne tha God
Y' all still speak?
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Clarissa Shields
You know, it was just we too much alike, you know, he taught me to be very strong and confident and don't take disrespect. And I guess all those rules apply except to him. And I think that was the problem. You know, he always told me when, like, when somebody disrespect you, you check him right then and there. You don't wait till y' all go in somewhere quiet or he like, somebody disrespectful, disrespect you. You let them know, like, right then and there, like, hey, I don't like that. That, like, that wasn't cool. That was disrespectful. And you try to let them know, like, hey, it, like, it's consequences for being disrespectful. You know, it's consequences.
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Just Hilarious
Break down what happened exactly with Tsiki, because I see. And Tsiki is from Baddies for those who don't know. But that's Chrisean's sister. But there's so many different rumors around it. People say you started and they say she started. I want to know how what even happened. Because, you know, you're not on baddies. You don't be over there with Zeus.
- [10:26]
Clarissa Shields
There you go.
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Just Hilarious
So like what. How did that even start her fans?
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Clarissa Shields
This is the thing. I fight professionally. Who's more known for fighting, me or Tzeki? Let's be honest.
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Just Hilarious
Professionally, you for sure fighting, period.
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Clarissa Shields
I'm more known. I went to the Olympics twice. Twice. I'm known by millions for fighting.
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Just Hilarious
But I'm saying you're profess like you are a professional fighter. Like you said that you're more known professionally.
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Clarissa Shields
So now that she's beating up girls on baddies, her fans came to me, oh, we think Tasiki can do this and do that. All I did was respond and let them know I, I like that Tasiki is beating these girls up. You know, it's good for tv. But yeah, she can't beat me up. And that's where I think the her problem came from. But all in all, I don't give a damn about seeking or nobody who think that she can do anything with me. She said she needs to stop popping pills and all this other to get ready to fight me. And she gotta train exactly how I train.
- [11:21]
DJ Envy
That's she behind the eight ball. She gotta do.
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Clarissa Shields
She's already, she's already meant. She's already lost in assaults when they like come to even a fight with me. And that's inside the ring and outside the ring. Because one, you never tell nobody your weaknesses. You never tell them all the stuff that you're doing that you're not supposed to be doing. That's one, two. I'm never going to give you my entire regimen of training of what I do. Why would I do that? Get up and go run six miles. She'll die. She can't do it. So the, the conversation doesn't make sense. I think right now I'm at a spot in my life where everything is about clout, clout, clout. And right now I'm just natural clout. Anytime I talk, everybody like, oh, Clarissa said this, Clarissa said that. Shade room, Hollywood unlocked tmz. I really can't do anything without people taking bits and parts of it. And just.
- [12:13]
Just Hilarious
So it was the fans.
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Clarissa Shields
It was the fans that made that. And then I also, like I said, I responded to it and actually I, I actually caught up Ivory to a fight.
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Just Hilarious
To me, Ivory Ivy, who's on, who just. She just joined Betty.
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Clarissa Shields
Yeah. Ivory is way more reference to see Seeking.
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Just Hilarious
Yeah.
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Clarissa Shields
She's actually from like a rough part of wherever she's from. And I've seen that girl fight on now that's tv.
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Just Hilarious
Me too. Yeah.
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Clarissa Shields
And she was more keen. She responded to having a boxing match against me. It wasn't a street fight with Ivory. She responded to her wanting to get in the ring and box against me. And I was like, okay, yeah, you know, well, let's make it happen. But, you know, it's the Internet. So I made that $100,000 challenge to, hey, if. If a girl can whip me, I will. I will give you $100,000 if you can beat me in a. In a fight. You deserve 100,000. You do.
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DJ Envy
I want to see it. I don't. I'm not wishing that on you, Clarissa, but I just want to see it because I feel like at some point you gonna have to show one of these girls stop playing with you.
- [13:10]
Clarissa Shields
Did you miss it when I beat the trail up at the gym? I remember that when I was the first example. These girls know, do not come to the gym, fuck with me no more. I will glove up with you. Yeah, I'm, I. I'm not that bougie where they be like, oh, I'm just too celebrity. Oh, no, you want your ass up. I whoop your ass.
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DJ Envy
But that's my point. I like when I hear people just randomly talking to professional athletes online, like they can just beat them so easily. I just want this. I need to see. I. I'm serious. I think I know why we need to see the difference between a Clarissa Shields and just you. You know that fights in the fighting.
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Just Hilarious
Yeah.
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Clarissa Shields
So what do you mean? You want to see me in a street fight?
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DJ Envy
No, I want you to get some money for it. But I just want to.
- [13:49]
Clarissa Shields
No, I'm saying, like, you want to see me, like, fight without gloves.
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DJ Envy
Yeah.
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Just Hilarious
Cause y' all win. He could take this either way. You win or you win.
- [13:58]
Clarissa Shields
I would say with boxing. Listen, first of all, the boxing gloves protect the fighters. It's the padding. I would never do bare knuckle boxing. I barely wanted to do mma, which is four ounce gloves, but Charlamagne, I fight these girls with no gloves on. You must hate them. Wow. I can't believe you said that. I'm sorry he said that, y' all. I'm apologizing for him.
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Just Hilarious
But didn't they. They tried to get you on baddies, right?
- [14:25]
Clarissa Shields
Natalie wanted me to come.
- [14:26]
Just Hilarious
Natalie wanted you to come to stay.
- [14:28]
Clarissa Shields
In the house and everything. And I told her, listen, I was all for it because I feel like it's cross branding. Yeah, it's cross branding. And I will more go on there on some. I Like, positive stuff, you know, I like.
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Just Hilarious
Really?
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Clarissa Shields
Yeah, I like. I like positive stuff. Like, boxing is positive to me.
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Just Hilarious
Okay.
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Clarissa Shields
But I will go on there more of, like, I think the girls on. On baddies. It's a lot of women on there who got, like, some trauma and need some healing, you know, and training and boxing helped me. I want to go on there to. These girls want to fight all the time. I don't understand. If they fight in the. If they fighting the whole time, who's getting to a bag?
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Just Hilarious
Yeah, that.
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Clarissa Shields
That'd be my question for them. Like, who's actually getting to some money on there if all they doing is fighting, they can't go to the club, they can't go to dinner, they can't go to events because it's a fight that break out every time. So for me, I was like, look, I will go on there, and I want to be that eye opener of like, look, let's train, let's work out, let's relieve some stress, and maybe everything can go more smoothly. But then. But then, of course, if it. If it can't. Yeah, glove up and put on headgears and some mouthpieces, because girls getting their teeth knocked out.
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Just Hilarious
They getting eyes busted up for nothing.
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Clarissa Shields
I don't know how much they mean.
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Just Hilarious
No, no, I'm not even talking about, like, what they getting paid, but I'm just saying, like, for. No, it's nothing. It's just a bunch of arguments and fighting. It's no objective. No true objective.
- [15:53]
Clarissa Shields
Yeah. You don't know who's right, who's wrong. I don't know, but like I said, I told Natalie that I will come on her show, but she gotta have everybody sign a. Sign a form that if I listen, I want them girls trying to be so intimidated that they team up and try to jump me. Now I got the whoop fox in.
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Just Hilarious
One day, and then lawsuits come after that, and then.
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Clarissa Shields
Nah, no, we gotta have them sign that. Listen, I'm not responsible for no damages, for no teeth, no eyes, none of that. Because I feel like those girls on badges are daredevils. And hell, well, I look like getting jumped by the seeking ivory. I gotta fight for my life. It's two of them. Yeah, I gotta fight real, real hard. And it's like, I'm not. I'm not losing.
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Just Hilarious
Yeah.
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Clarissa Shields
Especially if we on TV and they gonna post the clips. I got to show y' all what I can really do.
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Just Hilarious
They sign it. Oh, this?
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Clarissa Shields
No, she said that she couldn't get it done. She said oh, she talked to. She talked to Zeus and. And since it's reality tv, she can't have them sign it. I said, well, I can't come. And we a even talk about money or. Or. Or anything because once we didn't get past that, I just said, okay, cool.
- [16:55]
DJ Envy
And people be so scared to take an ass weapon. They might come at you with weapons and all types of all.
- [16:59]
Clarissa Shields
I got people trying to. People talking about, listen, I don't. People say that they going to shoot me, stab me, all types of stuff.
- [17:04]
Charlamagne tha God
I want to ask about, you know, the last fight, they said. At first they said there was some substance in your urine. And then they came back and said that wasn't true. What happened with that instance, them people was crazy.
- [17:17]
Clarissa Shields
I don't know, man. Like, it was. It's just crazy work. I will tell you that. I've never experienced something like that in my life. I don't smoke marijuana. I don't eat marijuana. I'm not even around people that smoke. So I was thinking that it was the arena, because I know that in the arena was smoky as ever, you know, rather, that was with cigarette smoke, weed smoke, whatever.
- [17:41]
DJ Envy
Because it's legal in Michigan.
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Clarissa Shields
It's very legal. You can just go to the store and buy it. So when I found out that it was in my system, first thing I did, because I was here in New Jersey, I was here in New York, and I was a pap. When I got the news, I said, these. These is crazy. I went straight to LabCorp and I took a urine test and that. And that goes back to 30 days. And it said I didn't have any marijuana in my system at all. So how this came out, that I did have it in there from a swab test, which isn't really that accurate, versus a urine test. I think that's how I beat my case. And like I said, I had to go and sit in front of them and go to trial and all this bull crap, but it just. I think something was wrong with their test. I don't know what was wrong with their test, but everything got resolved. I got unsuspended. And now we back fighting July 26th at Little Caesars in Detroit.
- [18:39]
DJ Envy
You know, you said earlier that, you know, people do you the clout now, right? And I saw. I saw Chris Cyborg just tweet out. He said, who is that UFC fighter?
- [18:48]
Clarissa Shields
Okay?
- [18:49]
DJ Envy
He said, Only five boxing fights, but already got more KOs than Clarissa Shields. Oh, that was so random.
- [18:54]
Clarissa Shields
I'm like, yeah, yeah, I don't Know why? She. First of all, I kicked Chris Cyborg ass very bad when we sparred a few years back. And I know Naba was the fighter. I'll knock her out. So I don't know she. And then she just fought a girl that was four. Four wins, three losses, and had been knocked out twice already. So if you go out, if you want to be technical, since I have to, if you go to box, break. I've never fought against a fighter who wasn't, who had more than four or five losses. Most of the people I fought against, undefeated champions. So when Chris Ibor can do that, she can talk about, like, how many knockouts she's getting, but till then, she can go keep injecting that in her face, trying to make her face look softer because she looked like a damn clown. Every time I see her, damn. I just. I just can't, you know? And then Chris is the op. She wanted to learn so much. Oh, oh, oh, I'm your friend. I want you to train mma. And then when I turn mma, to start fighting me, she wouldn't even come and train with me.
- [19:51]
DJ Envy
Wow.
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Clarissa Shields
But she was like, oh, when you train mma, I'm gonna teach you this and teach you that. She wouldn't even come train with me because I beat her up when we sparred. So she's an op, and she should have took that money that them dudes have for us to fight over there in Saudi. When they offer me 3 million to offer her one, she should have took the money.
- [20:10]
Charlamagne tha God
Do you like fighting?
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DJ Envy
She turned that down.
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Clarissa Shields
She's a punk. Oh, I want to fight at 147. And. And you're bigger than me. Why do we got to fight at 100? I'm like, Sis, let's get some money. What's the problem? Oh, no, I want to fight at 147. Well, I've never made 147, so I'm not going to 47.
- [20:30]
Charlamagne tha God
You enjoy fighting in Michigan or do you like Vegas?
- [20:33]
Clarissa Shields
Well, my dream was to fight at T Mobile arena in Vegas. That's like, my ultimate dream main event. I fought there before my pro debut. But I love fighting. I love fighting in Michigan, though, you know? But listen, you gotta. You gotta come to the fight to actually experience it. Some of these boxing matches y' all been going to, they. They've been kind of lackluster and boring. But you don't. You don't get that up in my fight. You get a good walkout, you get a nice crowd. The crowd chants, whoop. That trick in between around and yeah, you know, you get action packed fight with me in there. So it's a, it's a whole different experience.
- [21:08]
DJ Envy
What's something about the way women's boxing is promoted that that makes you cringe? But you haven't publicly called it out yet.
- [21:17]
Clarissa Shields
For me, how they act like putting women on men's undercards doesn't help the women. They keep trying to say, oh, it's not beneficial, but that's how they build their men champions up to where they can become main event fighters. So when I was saying, hey, I want to fight the undercard of Deontay Wilder, Terence Crawford, Earl Spence, Pacquiao, guys of that nature, I was always being told, oh, that's not going to help you grow. That's not going to help your brand. That's not going to. It was like, yes it is. Yes it is. If, if, if 20 million people is tuning in to see Anthony Joshua fight, I'm the co main event. At least 10 of them gonna be there or 15 waiting to get to the so they can see me fight and they can become fans of me. But they act like that's false information when I know that it's true because I've seen them do it with the men who I fight better than that now that these men are getting main event cars and I'm like, huh, that's funny, he fighting pay per view and I know damn well he can't fight better than me.
- [22:25]
Charlamagne tha God
Seemed like a no brainer.
- [22:26]
Clarissa Shields
Yeah.
- [22:26]
DJ Envy
Hell yeah. Who was that fight? The, the Taylor Serrano fight. Who that was on the card of.
- [22:32]
Clarissa Shields
Mike Tyson deck Paul. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that shit was, that.
- [22:35]
DJ Envy
Was the best fight on the card that night.
- [22:37]
Clarissa Shields
Yeah, I agree.
- [22:38]
Just Hilarious
Your name has been, your name be in a lot of conversations, you know, not only even for boxing though, but your personal life as well, right? And do you feel like, because your personal life, you know, like your love life and everything, like even online that gets like more publicity than like things like your movie or your fights. Do you feel like that helps or hurts your career in any type of way?
- [23:03]
Clarissa Shields
I feel like everything helps. You know I'm saying women's boxing is a very hard market for people to find out about you, you know what I'm saying? Like I've been the best fighter in the world since I was 17 years old. I'm 30 now. That's 13 years of dominance of not of, of not losing. I got 17 world titles, five different divisions, four time undisputed champion. Like I've accomplished Everything you can accomplish in boxing. So therefore all this stuff that my, that my name being is like, you know what, it's beneficial. I just have to make sure it's going the direction that I want it to go. I want to be Beyonce, okay. I want to be like Serena Williams. I don't want to be like, I don't even want to get no bad examples. I'm just saying it's a bunch. But I want to be like on that caliber of, of Muhammad Ali. So doing that I can't entertain everything. You know, even though it, it may give me more followers. But it's not something that's going toward where I'm trying to go to in my career and in my life because I'm trying to go to the 50 and 20 and $100 million and some stuff that I may entertain kid could stop that. So I don't my name be everywhere every day I gotta every day. Is somebody else making a damn podcast. Is somebody else making.
- [24:27]
Unknown
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- [25:05]
Clarissa Shields
I spent the majority of my teenage years and my twenties just feeling absolutely terrified. I had a panic attack on a conference call. Knowing that she had six months to live. I was no longer in pretending that this was my best friend.
- [25:17]
Unknown
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- [25:30]
Brendan Patrick Hughes
My name is Brendan Patrick Hughes, host of Divine Intervention. This is a story about radical nuns in combat boots and wild haired priests trading blows with J. Edgar Hoover in a hell bent effort to sabotage a war.
- [25:44]
Clarissa Shields
J edg Hoover was furious. Somebody violated the FBI and he wanted to bring the Catholic left to its knees.
- [25:53]
Brendan Patrick Hughes
The FBI went around to all their neighbors and said to them, do you think these people are good Americans? It's got heists, tragedy, a trial of the century and the God damnedest love story. You've ever heard.
- [26:06]
Clarissa Shields
I picked up the phone and my thought was, this is the most important phone call I'll ever make in my life. I couldn't believe it. I mean, Brendan, it was divine intervention.
- [26:18]
Brendan Patrick Hughes
You can now binge all 10 episodes of Divine Intervention on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [26:30]
Clarissa Shields
A video is somebody else putting pictures. They got old pictures of me, new pictures of me, and pictures of me and Pap. It just. Every day is something, and it just takes a lot of mind powers. You're just like, you know what?
- [26:43]
Charlamagne tha God
Welcome to our world.
- [26:44]
Just Hilarious
I know, right?
- [26:45]
Clarissa Shields
Let me just, you know, just like, yeah, right.
- [26:49]
Just Hilarious
Right before your movie came out, Right before it came out, which, you know, could have helped sales or whatever. Or whatever.
- [26:54]
Brendan Patrick Hughes
It did.
- [26:55]
Just Hilarious
It did. But your relationship was revealed in a very messy way. What. What was going through your mind when that happened? That was early in the morning. Everything just, you know, are you funny? It was. It was early.
- [27:08]
Clarissa Shields
I can say that. I can say that I was shocked, for one. And I was upset because me and my public, Me and my publicist had been talking about, hey, we're getting ready to have the movie come out on Christmas Day. Let's not have nothing happen. So I had been ignoring so many things. So many things. And then this came and it was like, h, what the hell? And I remember being like, I was. I was. I was frustrated, but I also, too, was like, keep, keep your cool. Because once again, the direction we're trying to go is not that direction. One, I don't get paid off of drama. A lot of people say that they know me because of that situation or. Or because of Pap. And it was like, I had 1.1 million followers before that ever happened. Now I'm at 1.31, 1.4. And it was like. But I also had a movie come out. I had a fight. I'm constantly going viral for anything.
- [28:09]
DJ Envy
Netflix documentary. Yeah, you've been out there.
- [28:12]
Clarissa Shields
I've done TV shows. Like, I rap. So with that, I just, like, you know what? It's just. I think that the devil was trying to get in the way. You know, he wanted to see me crash out. And that's why I handled it, how I handled it. I promoted my movie, I promoted my fight, and I just continue moving because I have nothing to. To argue about. Like, me and papa are together, where we are happy together. He packed my belts this morning for me to bring my stuff here. We just got back from la. We're together all the time he rapped me out, we trained together. Like, we're together, so I don't really have to argue about anybody about where my spot is with him. You know, it's like, that's not my place now. There are things that got to get handled, but it's still. It's not even my stuff to handle. Yeah, it's his.
- [29:00]
Charlamagne tha God
How did y' all meet?
- [29:02]
Clarissa Shields
We met at Shakur fight, July 6 last year.
- [29:04]
Just Hilarious
I met at a fight. Wow. Okay.
- [29:06]
Clarissa Shields
Yeah, that's what I said.
- [29:07]
Charlamagne tha God
How did you know he was the one? How did you. I'm sure dudes kick it to you all the time. How did you know, like, he was the one?
- [29:15]
Clarissa Shields
He's smooth, Cat, man. See, the thing is, like, I told you, I. I didn't really like boys till I was 15. So now I've had a few boyfriends here and there. And I remember, like, pap. He walked up to me, and he shook my hand, which I was like, shake hands?
- [29:31]
Charlamagne tha God
Who shakes hands?
- [29:32]
Clarissa Shields
That was kind of my mind, like, what the hell? And then he just mentioned, like, oh, I watched you fight in the Olympics. I'm a fan. I've been a fan, you know? And I was like, well, I fight in two weeks in Detroit. You know, if you. If you freeze, you come out. And he like, I'm coming. And I always get that from celebrities, though. They always say, oh, we gonna come. We gonna come. And then fight night come, and then they don't come. So I didn't think he was coming. I'm like, all right, cool. I'm like, we took a picture. Which I'm gonna get to that in a minute, but we took a picture, and I posted it on my page, but it was my second picture, because I think G herbo was the first picture. And then when I posted it, I DM'd him the picture, and he. I'm like, if you want to come to the fight, here's my publicist number. I make sure you got VIP where you can come to the back and, you know, say hello, whatever. And he was like, all right. So he hit her immediately, and we're all in a group text. And then the day of the fight, he text her and say, hey, I'm here. And then she brought him to the back, and I was like, oh, he came to the fight. That's what's up. And. But I could tell, like you said, what did he. How did I know he was the one? So strange. So I came here to the Breakfast Club last year, and he kept saying, he wants to go out to eat. When I come to New York, he wants to take me out to eat. And I was just like, why? What do you want to go out to eat for? Like, what's up? And we had. We have been texting back and forth and stuff like that, but he's really hard to. He's not hard to read, but he's very, like, private throughout the text. And so he like, I just want to talk to you in person. So when we talked in person, that's when I was like, dang, I kind of like this dude. And he just was like, so kind, so nice. And I think we had a conversation before. Like, do you like bad boys, the good boys? I like a good guy. Don't be all that nonchalant, stuck up. You the. You the prize. Get the hell away from me. Please.
- [31:22]
Just Hilarious
Knock out, act like that. Don't you.
- [31:25]
Clarissa Shields
You messy people think I hate my men. I don't.
- [31:30]
Just Hilarious
Okay.
- [31:31]
Clarissa Shields
I don't have you, though. Come on now.
- [31:36]
DJ Envy
You said there's some things he needs to handle. What do you mean by that?
- [31:40]
Clarissa Shields
Say it again.
- [31:40]
DJ Envy
You said earlier there's some things pap need to handle.
- [31:43]
Clarissa Shields
Oh, I mean, yeah, it's the elephant in the room. I don't have to say it.
- [31:47]
DJ Envy
I don't know.
- [31:48]
Clarissa Shields
In his personal life, yeah, it's the elephant in the room. Like, but that. But that takes time. And like I said, that's not my place to speak on. You know what I'm saying? Like, it'll get. It'll get handled. I just know that from my perspective, I'm with him. I'm with him every day. And when I'm not with him, we're on the phone every day and we're talking and we're FaceTiming and, you know, we love each other, so that's just kind of what it is. You know what I'm saying? But hey, it's a situation and it is what it is.
- [32:14]
DJ Envy
I'm assuming you mean, like, you want to wait till the divorce is, like, official official? Did that hold you? Did that keep you from. From like, giving your all?
- [32:23]
Clarissa Shields
No, not. Because we're together all the time, so.
- [32:26]
Just Hilarious
The all is already given is what she's saying.
- [32:29]
Clarissa Shields
Yeah, that's. That's it. We already talk. We talk about so many different things. And I'm 30, so we talk about kids and family and stuff like that. But, like, it's still. That still has to get taken care of. But, like, you know, once again, it's not. It's not for Me, you understand? I'm saying, like, I'm not. I'm not married, you know, so, yeah, that's. That'll get handled. But still, at the same time, I've been like, I'm such a secure woman when it, like, comes to him, because he's proven his. He's proven it to me. Like I was. I was to. When somebody is just truthful with you from the beginning, there is no. There is no secrets there. There is just, hey, this is what it is. And do you accept or do you not accept that's kind of what it was? And he's been truthful from the beginning. And we fell asleep on the phone for three, four months of us first getting together. So for us to fall asleep on a regular night and then to wake up to chaos in the morning was.
- [33:24]
Just Hilarious
Like, oh, say, that's how we found out, because y' all was on the damn phone.
- [33:27]
Clarissa Shields
But that had been going on for three, four months, and that wasn't just at night. We talked from sun up to sundown.
- [33:34]
Just Hilarious
Yeah.
- [33:35]
Clarissa Shields
So that, like I said, that's what shocked me because I was like, oh, hell, what the heck? Because if we go to sleep on the phone for. For four months every night, and the phone is saying it's four hours, three hours, whatever hours on the phone, you don't think that one day you're gonna wake up to. To that, you know? So that's what threw me off. But, hey, at the end of the day, look, women are women. I don't know what. I don't know what else to say. Like, I don't. I don't have any ill will toward any women, and I have any ill will toward her, you know?
- [34:08]
Charlamagne tha God
So y' all haven't spoke of.
- [34:10]
Clarissa Shields
Nah, nah. I mean, she made her post and whatever, and that was about it. But. But like I said, women are women. They're very emotional creatures. You know what I'm saying? And I think that was just. I don't. I don't know. I don't know what it was. I don't know it was emotions or. I don't know what it was because. Because I don't know her and she don't know me.
- [34:31]
Just Hilarious
Yeah.
- [34:32]
Clarissa Shields
Don't know me either. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, I don't know what that was. But like I said, it's not. It wasn't for me. That's why I just responded how I responded. We gonna promote the movie. We gonna promote the fight. Once Again, I fight July 26th, main event at Little Caesar's arena tickets on Ticketmaster. 19, 000 people need to be there. Last fight I did 12, 000. Let's go for 19. This one.
- [34:54]
DJ Envy
You know, you know, as a woman who dominates a brutal sport, Clarissa, do you ever feel like you got to protect your softness?
- [34:59]
Clarissa Shields
Yeah. Everybody don't get that. Everybody don't get that. You know, in the, in the, in the past year, I say year and a half, I had to change my whole life around. I was living in Flint, Michigan. I had me a nice house there. I was engaged. You know, I was just very, very close to everybody in my family. But once I knocked out Joe Nace at that heavyweight and people thought I was gonna lose that fight and I knocked her out in the second round. I thought people change when you lose. People change when you win and they thought you was gonna lose and they start acting crazy. All this entitlement. People got issues with me. I did this, I did that. I'm like, I haven't done nothing but train and train and work hard and be accomplished. And oh, I'm looking down on them. I think I'm better than them because I buy myself nice things and I don't buy them nice things. And it just got outrageous, you know, and then these girls and it was. Oh, you know what? Anyways, it was just people start paying more attention to me because I started loving myself better.
- [36:06]
Just Hilarious
Yeah.
- [36:07]
Clarissa Shields
So loving myself better, it means you have to disconnect from things that don't love you. And I had to move all the way to Atlanta. I have another house now, a seven bedroom house now. And I just had to move there. And I spent so much time learning to be okay with being by myself. Right. And this was coming out of a relationship and it didn't, I didn't just jump into a relationship with pap. I. I gave myself a month or two, but it was still just. It's a little bit time. You know how as young folks a little bit can't wait only for too long. We fine for that. But yeah, it just more for me, like I had to like really seclude myself. And when I did that, I learned to be all right with just hanging out with me, you know what I'm saying? Hanging out with me and my dog. Cause I have a dog.
- [36:55]
Charlamagne tha God
The sad thing about it is watching a movie, that's how you were at like 15, 16, the same thing. You started winning and then everybody started coming and started feeling entitled and it's weird that you still had to deal with that. Now it just never changed. You never changed.
- [37:08]
Clarissa Shields
Money, more problems. And that's real. More money, more problems. They hear about you making millions of dollars. They see you ran $100,000 chain. You got a Rolex. You got diamonds on diamonds. They like, where my shit at? And I'd be like, well, you go get hit in the face and then you. Then. And then I bet you get something. You may not get a million, but you're going to get some. You're going to get some money. If you're going to run some miles and you're going to eat healthy and you sacrifice what you have to sacrifice 100%, you will make some type of money.
- [37:35]
DJ Envy
Do you think you feel that way because you've always. I'm just going off the movie. In the movie, there was a scene where you was with your, I think, your little brother and your little sister, and you was like, I'm going to get us out the hood, basically. Yeah, I'm gonna get us out of here. Always look to you to be that person?
- [37:53]
Clarissa Shields
Yes and no. Because I've done things for my family that I, I. Nobody else in this room will probably do for their family. I've bought cars. I've. I've paid rent, and not just rent for a month or two, but like for a whole year and a half. My sister, little. Three kids are my kids. School clothes, hairdos, haircuts, shoes. That's me, my younger brother, my mom. I bought my mom two cars so far. My little brother, I just bought him a car. And I don't say this to brag, but it's like, I do things for my family to help them have a better life. And it comes to a point where it's like, listen, you're grown, too. I don't have to take care of you. Like, you're grown, too. Where. What are you going to do to help change your life? Because I'm not God. I'm not God. And nobody came down and, and gave me a car and gave me money. I had to work for everything that I have. So I can't just give it and give it away because you guys feel like, oh, you're our big sister or you're our family member, like this. What you supposed to do? It's like, no, I can help position you. But then after that, you have to work, you have to figure it out. Because I got to figure it out.
- [39:06]
Just Hilarious
They got to have that mindset, though. You know what I mean? Like, if they don't have that mindset, like you, like, you grind, you, you, you push yourself. You built your own self, you know what I mean? Then all they gonna keep doing. Like you said, you just paid somebody rent a year and a half straight. At not one point did they ever say, all right, yo, make me, like, put me on so I can pay my own rent. They just sat there and just let you pay the rent for a year and a half?
- [39:30]
Clarissa Shields
Yeah, but I also told him to save up. Save, save up your money. I supposed to do it for six months.
- [39:34]
Just Hilarious
Oh, while I'm paying your rent, save your money.
- [39:36]
Clarissa Shields
Because once I'm done paying your rent, you should be able to go pay your own rent. And you should have a job by the end too. You better buy you to buy you a car. Something should be able to happen after saying, bill, saving up your money for a year and a half. And that's one thing people talk about, people getting money. Money management is a lost art in the black community. It's a lost art. All these basketball players, football players, after they're not in the league for three years, they broke. And that's sad. But that's because money management is not something that's taught on. And people don't want to learn. When you're getting hundreds of thousand here, hundred thousand there, you can go buy whatever you want from Gucci, Louis, Versace, you can go, just go buy it. You're not even paying attention to how much money you're spending. And then you think that after your career is done, you can still spend that way. And then you realize, like, oh, bank card declined. You know what I'm saying? So I learned about money management doing. During COVID I had 10 people staying in my house. 10. I was ordering doordash every day, cases of water, food. And I think from the year of Kobe, I spent $75,000. Within a few months, I look at my bank account, I said, what? How that happened? I thought somebody was stealing from me. I went down and looked at my bank account. I went to the bank, and what? Nobody's stealing. You just, you just spend money because you know that you have it. But it was like, yo, that's yo, that's too much for me to be spending 75, 000 in three months.
- [41:07]
Just Hilarious
It adds up.
- [41:08]
Clarissa Shields
Yeah, some gotta, some gotta shake. So for me, that's where I learned, like, okay, let's stop ordering so much online. We can't eat doordash every day. Let's order some groceries. Like, you got to figure out the give in the give and the take. Because I Don't do any cigarettes or alcohol or drugs. So that wasn't the problem. The problem was to me, I'm, I'm ordering out, taking care of everybody. I'm paying for gas, I'm paying for cars, I'm doing everything. It's like, yo, you go, you gonna be broke like them, like the people you be talking about, girl, keep it up.
- [41:41]
Charlamagne tha God
Now, I did see an interview that you said after this, this year, you don't close shop down and you want to start your family.
- [41:48]
Just Hilarious
That's what I was ready.
- [41:50]
Charlamagne tha God
I said, interview said, you want to start your family. You're going about to shut this boxing down for a little bit. You still, you still on that wave?
- [41:57]
Clarissa Shields
Yeah, yeah, I want to have two more fights this year and then shut it down for a minute.
- [42:03]
Just Hilarious
The reason why, look, I, I did, I, I knew who you were before you got into a relationship with Pat. But this is the first time that I've seen you ain't a soft girl. As soft as I feel like you ever gonna get unless you have a daughter. But I feel like, yeah, I've seen, I've never seen you blush before until your relationship. I've never seen you. Not that you always like hard. Yeah, you always harder. But before your relationship, now you're more like soft girl. And you said you had a seven bedroom house. You plan to fill that up with the kids?
- [42:39]
Charlamagne tha God
Well, that's what, six kids?
- [42:41]
Just Hilarious
It's the same question, but it's just better form. So you trying to fill up that seven bedroom house?
- [42:47]
Clarissa Shields
No. So just, just to rewind. I think with the childhood that I had, I have to slowly grow into the soft girl area. It's not something that just come overnight. You don't just turn 25, my old nine years soft and 39 years soft. It's like I had to do a whole lot of healing and growing. And I feel like I've been a soft girl for three years. People keep saying it just started with pap and it was like, no, I've been, I'm softer now because of the man that he is, you understand? But I've always been soft. And anybody that knows me know that I'm very sensitive. That's why I don't let everybody talk to me and be around me because you said the wrong thing. I've been, been freaked out and everybody like, what's wrong with her? And I'm just crying and I'm cussing everybody out and I want to fight people because I know that I'm sensitive. I know that so with me knowing that I just kind of, you know, steer clear of drama and stuff like that. So with that, now that I'm in my softer, softer girl era and I'm in a heel girl era too, I wanna, I feel like I'm capable to have a child now.
- [43:49]
Just Hilarious
Yeah.
- [43:49]
Clarissa Shields
You know, and, and I always wanted my own family. I want to have six kids, honestly. But I will settle with four.
- [43:56]
Just Hilarious
The seven bedroom house. That's why you got the six bedroom for the six kids and then this, the other bedroom for you and the dog.
- [44:04]
Clarissa Shields
The dog is crazy. But yeah, I mean, I don't want to.
- [44:08]
Charlamagne tha God
So you want six?
- [44:09]
Clarissa Shields
Yeah, in total over the years. You know what I'm saying? But I, I do want to start next year. But you know, tell God your plans and, and he'll, and he'll laugh, you know, so I just know like that's, that's what I want. But who knows if it'll, if it'll happen to me. It may be 31 or 32, you never know. But I know that I, I will be having a kid, some kids soon.
- [44:32]
DJ Envy
Was there ever a moment because of your upbringing, because of the trauma you experienced where even winning feel feels lonelier than losing might feel?
- [44:40]
Clarissa Shields
Nah. Nothing feels better than winning. Losing sucks. Losing sucks. I don't know, I don't know what type of winning you. I, I, When I win, I feel like to me, winning a boxing match is just as great as having a great, having a great sex session. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's, it's the highest thing for me. And people think it's weird when I say that, but it's like I've never been high off of drugs. The highest high I've ever been or happy is either winning a boxing match or sex. It just, that's it. I mean, or let me think of something that made me happy. Eating good food.
- [45:15]
DJ Envy
Yeah.
- [45:17]
Clarissa Shields
Yeah. Sex is up there. Yeah.
- [45:19]
DJ Envy
So regardless of what's going on in your life, if you win a match, you, you good.
- [45:23]
Clarissa Shields
I, it makes me feel really, really good. And I don't let the people put the pressures in me of getting knockouts. Yeah, I know that. I'm an entertaining fighter. You're gonna get a nice fight and you're going to be happy that you came, but you're not going to pressure me to be upset over a win because I didn't get the knockout. Like, I think I worked too hard to let the casuals and the fans say, oh, you didn't get knocked out. So. So you're not good. It's like. But. But I beat the out of her, though, you know? So to me, winning is what matters, because losing, if I was to lose. Aw, man. You think I'm viral now?
- [46:02]
DJ Envy
Yeah.
- [46:02]
Clarissa Shields
Lord have mercy.
- [46:03]
Just Hilarious
I don't know if this is a dumb question or not, but look, right, so when guys box, like, I hear that they can't have sex, like, before the fight because it messes up. Like, I guess adrenaline need to be pumped up or whatever. But is it the same with women? Like, you can. Can you, like, have sex the night before you fight? Does it mess with you or does it take away from your energy? You're not zamped up? Nah.
- [46:26]
Clarissa Shields
Well, one, I can't speak for the other female champions, but being pound for pound, number one woman fighter, I don't have sex four to six weeks before a fight. And any man I've been with know that.
- [46:38]
Just Hilarious
Gotcha.
- [46:39]
Clarissa Shields
Like, we can hug, we can kiss, but when it comes to, like, the actual penetration part. Nah. And even the. It's not even about. Not about. You said the word penetration, crazy. It's not about that. It's about. It's about coming orgasms, right? Can't do that. So there's no type of form of sex for me, you know? And I feel like that gives me what I. What I need for the fight because I'm Clarissa, but then when I fight, I'm Clarenzo, and Clerenzo don't want no. He don't want no D. Has Clarenzo.
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DJ Envy
Ever showed up in the bedroom?
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Just Hilarious
Excuse me.
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DJ Envy
Scared the shit out of.
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Charlamagne tha God
Wrong with you, man. Here goes Clarinzo.
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Clarissa Shields
What? Not the green lady?
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Unknown
No.
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DJ Envy
What's a moment in your adulthood where your healing surprised you? Clarissa was something that used to trigger you. You was like, oh, that don't. That don't bother me no more. You ain't get there yet.
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Clarissa Shields
You know, I. I think. I think I've had this conversation with God a couple times. Like, I'm never going to be the person that you slapped me, and I turn the other chicken, you slap me again. You know, I don't think I'll ever get there, but do I want to get there? Sure. But I don't want people thinking it's okay to slap me. You know, what's something that happened to me? And I said, you know what, girl, you did a good job with. Not to me, it's been always defending myself, sticking up for myself, speaking the truth. And I think that. I think when the movie came out, I Was tested the most constantly until now. Still, you know, I pat myself on the back all the time. You said. I say, yeah, you may have responded to this, but you didn't respond to that.
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DJ Envy
Got you. Got you.
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Clarissa Shields
You know, you cut your phone off when you seen this, but because it's some people who are not even qualified to speak on me. Like, up in no type of shape or form. Like, you've never been number one in the world at what you do. Why are you talking to me?
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DJ Envy
That's real.
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Just Hilarious
Why.
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Clarissa Shields
Why are you talking about me? You. You've never made a million dollars. You work for somebody. I don't. I caught a shots in my career. House, cars, family, please. And then people feel like they can speak on me. And then even some of these trolls or whatever. And trolls also be like these celebrities. And I. And I. And I go and look, and I think somebody. It be the audacity. They be like, where'd you get that from? For you to even think you can come tell me about what I'm wearing, how I dress, how I wear my hair, why I'm wearing braids when I box, and I ain't wearing a lace front. You not even qualified to be talking to me. Go be number one in whatever your life is first. And then when you get up there to that Michael Jordan, Serena Williams, Beyonce, Clarissa Shields era, then you come talk to me. That. So that's. So that'd be my issue. Wanted to check people and let them know, focus on your life. Because focusing on my life, you don't get no money from me. I'm not ever gonna pay you for minding my business. Go mind your business, and you'll get to where you want to get to. So that'd be the thing for me. Like, that's what I pat myself on the back because I may respond to stuff here, but it's been some stuff. Some things that happened. And I've been like this, man, this whole way. And qualified, bro. She not qualified to play with me like that. And that'd be my. And I think that's my. Where I'm healing from. Because it's like, not only can I talk trash and I can get back at you with whatever you're saying. I can also beat your ass, too. And that be for me. Like, some of these people need to get they ass whooped. I'm telling you. Oh, Lord have mercy. No, Cap.
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DJ Envy
Lainey Daniels is up next.
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Clarissa Shields
Yeah. And you know, I've done my research. She got a. She got a nice past on her you know, she done been through some things. She lost a sibling due to, I think, leukemia. She's tough. She's bringing her whole country of New Zealand with her to Detroit. She thinks she can't be beat now. She got. She lost early in her career, but I think she feel like now she can't be beaten. That she's my toughest challenge. So I look forward to fighting her. July 26th.
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Charlamagne tha God
That's right. July 26th. Little Caesars arena in Michigan.
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DJ Envy
Hold on, I got one more question. How much motivation did ESPN leaving you off the trailblazing athletes list? How much. How much did that motivate you?
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Just Hilarious
You.
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DJ Envy
Because you should have been on them.
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Clarissa Shields
Yeah. But you know what? Once again, I. Like I said, I acknowledged it and then I kept going on my day. Right. I see this why. This is what I'm g. To say. And, and. And. And this what I want the networks and people to understand what, What I've learned. I've learned that they know that they do things that's wrong, especially to me, but they do it to get a reaction out of me. Of. Out of me because they want to get more views and clicks. Because what. Because what I'm gonna do. Respond, I'm going to acknowledge it. So when I acknowledged it, I realized that one, nobody paid attention to them. They little trailblazer list anyway. That's for one. You would have got more clicks. You would have put me on there. Now that I actually brought it to everyone's attention and then they went and looked and seen what it was that got them more clicks and got them more likes. But it didn't motivate. It didn't motivate me at all because I got a sp. You understand? Like I am everybody who they had as a trailblazer on that list, I've accomplished more than. So I. It didn't motivate me at all. It just showed me like another hater. Somebody else who, who trying to downplay my greatness. Like it ain't great, but I know I'm the greatest, you know, and it's in this. And it's hard to deny it. You know, anybody said they. That they greater than me, asking what their accomplishments are. Look up their fights, look up their record. I mean, just. It's so much you got to do. But I want to say to. To. To. To. To mvp. I'm the most victorious person y' all, period.
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Charlamagne tha God
Well, there you have it. Clarissa Shields. 7-26-16. Zero boxer undisputed status in three weight divisions. And we appreciate you for joining us.
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Clarissa Shields
Yeah. Thank y' all for having me.
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Charlamagne tha God
That's right. It's Clarissa Shields. The Breakfast Club. Good morning.
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DJ Envy
Wake that ass up in the morning.
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Clarissa Shields
The Breakfast Club.
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Brendan Patrick Hughes
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